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Racism at the school gate and education reclaimed (Part 2)
"This is an ABC podcast. Aikido got You Butterfly Net Enhancement. Gravity Heaven and what she step. We're right next to the Bank of Torrens River on Ghani country in the heart of Adelaide plays. Don't fall in the torrents. Those of you that are not South. Straighten off a good ribbon polling today on the white out feeling very sorry. Try and start wipers water Do into the podcast of last week. Show if you've arrived at the dorms late because we're on camp here on science friction and it's going well. Everyone's getting on. This is the C. Syros Aboriginal Summa School for Excellence in technology and science and I'm living in with the nearly forty indigenous students from across the strategy here from Perth to the Torres Strait. They've come from far and wide and it's great to have you with us to on the Tesha Mitchell. You've caught an enormous something or dragonfly. It's huge thing. It was just innocent. Thought Maybe we could Kate Me Swan and then if we get any more or less just Alana line Patched candidate the University of Adelaide so working on parasitic wasps. My mission is to teach a bit more of an appreciation awareness of what's around which these kids have embraced wholeheartedly fishnet Connor Looking. It's camouflaged really. Yeah so as part of ABC's walking together. I'm bringing you powerful personal stories from three generations of indigenous. Australians today on racism in classrooms on triumphantly pushing past the low expectations others can have foyer and are knowing who you Would Hi this is a Science Camp Theresa? Let's get some of that good stuff at by the reba without insect. Nate's I love it because when I was little I used to do this in the backyard. I'll just for the fun of it. Like we did. Ones and lacked playful the bugs and stuff and Done things we went touches. The real big because that's scary. This is year eleven student Catherine. She's from Queensland. I've always had a interest in biodiversity because when I was lying about it in school I just found it fascinating the way things like adapted to the surroundings and how strong Some animals off. But do you think you might study in Uni? I definitely want medicine like the medicine. Science and even in science medicine side of it because on surf fascinated about the way humans like animals too but mostly humans alphabrain the actual workings about nerves and our nervous system and everything. I just find it so fascinating to fix people with your knowledge of that. It's just it's mind blowing to me. If you're ever original or Torres Strait islander you make up about three percent over strides population but just under two percent of all students enrolled at university are indigenous. That's growing by around half of a said over the last decade or side when it comes to Unical says in the natural and physical sciences. It and engineering. Less than one percent of students are indigenous for first year medicine. That's around two point. Four percent and of course completion rights alarm but this camp is about helping to change that. It's about road tasting university. Simon names macaroni. I'm an epidemiologist with. Csiro food and nutrition and things are about to get very real for the students right now. We're talking about their activities for the rest of the week and in particular their inquiry which is quite a lot of pressure for them. They'll need to spend a lot of their time thinking about the question that they want to investigate for the next few days and then they'll have to be ready to present it by next week. You asking them to do scientific experiment in two days scientific inquiry. That might be an experiment but it might be some other activities but yet in today's Yep they'll spend a lot of the allison a day. Doing it will be under a lot of pressure but based on previous years they do a great job so they've got to collect data definitely have to collect data they'd go to interpret data and they'll go to present it all of the precious situations for them so the pressure is on from pretty much all mice now not quite a couple of days. I think they'll feel it from tomorrow morning. Hitler research can be conceded. A A dirty word Saith West head is a young research scientist irregular mentor on these caves. He comes from Alaba Coal. And we're edgy. Country in these half miles research was something that was done on. Aboriginal people not with Aboriginal people and certainly not let by aboriginal people but as we get more aboriginal academics in high positions within the academy. This is where we can start to see a change of the culture so we need young people. All of the students present curious and inquisitive mind and from my perspective. That's all you need to be a scientist. The rest is just learning the specific language to answer the specific questions that you come up with and that's just a process. Anybody can do that. We really made more indigenous people in science. We've got so much work today. But we need more indigenous people everywhere. It's hard to access education for aboriginal people and are stolen papal. It's hard to walk to welds of wanting to preserve your own culture and sense of identity. Sometimes studying integrate main sacrificing culture identity and sometimes staying strong culture means sacrificing education. Perhaps no one knows these more than an ano education later. I made it a gathering by the five page of the Wheelchair Boarding House. Where all staying at Miami's Ruben and direct for education does P. Y. Yeah we didn't on almost for you know all the people it's our language and then another language as we had last week students from the remote traditional lands of the unindo people in South Australia. Come stay here. We'll check to go to high school in Adelaide. Now looking at you know dairies. To Wolves do peak will come together. You know the wisden world is really important that are now people need to get educated through sure school to get a job and money travel around you know speak language English and understand where there was an will come from and why why we see really important pulled in you know kids to university by his crowd. I need to build than me on the stand with coming from and you're not educated to vision. It's a big thing you know for helping students on this summer. School where I've come from is a big part of this week. Some don't know a lot about families indigenous heritage and gun elda Rosemary. Waggin blows my mind. Diwan that we to have conversation across our communities across the country but we need to have them because something terrible is occurring with what? I'm calling. Intra cultural racism born in Nineteen fifty. Five Rosemary is a member of the stolen generation at age nine. She was taken by welfare agencies from her father after her mother died. There were seven kids and a two day old baby by Seventeen Rosemary had married and given birth to her first child at this a long life on and Rosebery now runs her own. Business focused on supporting indigenous healing. It's called the Australian Institute for loss and grief in this context on talk about the impact of history and how we as visual people and torched autumn. Two people can judge each other on the Colorado scheme that really hit home for me because like obviously everyone's face discrimination but being a half house. Aboriginal is extremely difficult daily. I get not an actual aboriginal. You you only on the inside. It's not on the outside yet. So that talk really just confirmed with me that I should be proud of my culture. I shouldn't let things like that. Make me ashamed and if they are going to be like that that's a reflection on that personality and may not on me such a powerful realization to go from that session and I feel like it's a issue is merced. Lighter skinned everage knows. I wish I was just everyone could get that cultural identity talk. I knew that going to be cultural activities but I didn't think they were going to be as moving and powerful as they are when you look at those students here the summer camp and you think about your own situation at the same age so these students leaving you. Ten going into your eleven. What was your relationship to education? As you were growing up glued Christian it was profoundly weakened lift point P is and under the exemption certificates that we had to be exempted from being an aboriginal point. Peace Mission is and then we have assimilated so you know aboriginal anymore and now you have to assimilate to become what people and so. We're on in clear. What mainstream town and the average family? They are remember loving primary school as I didn't one day on Friday night for class and rushed into the classroom sat down and the teacher stopped the whole class and she said price. Ray Wangdi did not we ought to do with the we. Were to put a casual cotton. The sort of your desk and on the front of it and on the other side so the children can't see you a new county can't see the children and just ride dance all the way around it. I remember something happened inside my heart because a teacher was a teaches us an Etel and she wants she must be telling the trees. I've into that all the way into my primary school high school and I think it had a even at effect on me am staying at Union in the northeast because I say narrow archie. Keep reminding me lookout lookout. Don't forget your dime Mesa. Quick get up before somebody finds out took me many years to reclaim back. My face. Trust is earned. Abilities accomplished myself and my intelligence. My mom and a pot of the governmental policy at that time wasn't allowed to go to school pasta six. That was the rule and that was because she was a Torres Strait island a woman that edict was implies because of that part of the Act and Education Act for indigenous peoples that they were only allowed to go to school into that year level because it was thought that that intellectual capacity was only at that level and they could not learn anymore. You know there was nothing that you could do if you want to listen to at that time of the protectorate laugh would be very very hard and difficult for you scientist and Educator Taurus web coordinator of the inquiry for Indigenous Science Students Program run by CSIRO when our progress into high school. I really wanted to continue my studies into university and shoes. My passions and interests around environmental science and management are we preserve and protect land. I went through the high school. Some of the teachers said to me. Why are you aiming to study? Some of the Board Academic Subjects Science Maths. Yes mystery physics that kind of thing exactly the subjects to open your pathway in Korean University said why onto studying in the vocational education and bits related subjects. That would be more suited to you and the expectation with. You need to be doing something. That's more aimed at your level. Let the rest of the indigenous people so looking at the academic side was out of reach. It actually stood up a bit of a fire in my belly to say well. Actually I can't achieve this regardless of what your thoughts are in low expectations of me can achieve that particularly with the support and family and community. I ended up applying for Cadet ship on the Australian Fisheries Management Authority asthma. Yeah I did. Environmental Science Management Degree at Southern Cross University. Lismore multi newsouth wells. It said I often die. Four of cat. And because you can't be what you can't see the students and nasty in the dining hall in a special speed Mayton great. Cassie C. Sarawak in their area which basically means I help Scientists with a computer nate's with that particular experiments will data collection and had the process that I also have a background in Mechanical Engineering Electronics Engineering. What are your interests in science biology counting so here will chair in the dining hall. This is Scott. Feel at one of the candidates With a lot of chatter connection going on here as the group of Students Speaking to a whole bunch of diverse size technology engineering and mathematics professionals working in the fields. Their moms their dies. They grandma is the recent graduates. Internationals people have moves into state rural original city remote We've got a whole bunch of professionals here and many students sciences subjects sized classroom sizes is a teacher. The power of one on one conversation is incredible. What I'm laughing about decision. Release It on seeing some of the slightly shy students volunteering questions. Speaking out when it's one on one it's one hundred percent engagement hundred percent everyone's into it so my name's Tina Brady. I'm a under one day. Gyro woman living on Ghana country and I'm currently or your behalf way now through my PhD Which is looking at social determinants of health and social and emotional wellbeing forever. Sean Torres tried onto communities so you would just presenting to the summer camp. Yes so we were just talking to them about I journeys and Korea's Khannabal Pathways into how we got here and what that looks like and I guess any insights the might be useful for them. You know at this stage when they looking into their future and thinking about where they might WanNa go and how they might want to get this. Larry Will you when you were entering year. Eleven aboriginal kids in my school at the interview twelve. There were three of us that graduated. I think so you know and this is in a town where moisture population aboriginal paypal. So the opportunities for us going into year eleven. We're really about. It's like almost like survival. It was like the school was just telling US whatever they could to keep out flat. Tina grew up with her family in the mining town of Kalgoorlie in Western Australia. Al Family went from that town to my parents when they got married. Dodds note aboriginal mummies and so we were sort of outside as to the town in terms of aboriginal identity and cultural connection but we were average to the rest of the town. So you like one of those people that doesn't fee and so fill your developing identity. It's really complex. So you know you're experiencing soil much. Racism from non aboriginal people like like the moist out would blatant racism. That people don't think this is what you hear a child. Everyone telling you that who you are in early is wrong and bad thoughts. What made it almost easier to leave. When it was time to make the decision to go to university and I won said to me at school you could go to university. That was never ever a word uttered to me. It wasn't actually a pathway that I thought was possible until later once I was working in aboriginal sort of affairs and going on. I really am passionate about this. What else could I do you know? How would I get a job? That's more like that was kind of what drove me to sort of book for a lot of students particularly remote students studying at high school or university might involve moving away from home which can be fun but also challenging. Jasmine is a non eighteen year old medical student at Adelaide University student later and a mentor here on the summit cab. She left her family. In the small mining town of roxby downs to hit to boarding school. Family is everything in indigenous culture is everything and then being away from your family and you know cousins uncles in your aunties and then you don't really have anyone winning. Move Away into the city which is really really hawed. Drive away from culture was particularly hard especially when I went to boarding school I was cold unfortunately very many many many nights by myron indigenous people which was really really hurtful getting cold an Oriole and stuff like that it really hurts and our cultural identity like I did back then it was even more interesting but then I saw going on campus quite similar to this actually went to one in Queensland too. Few in Sydney and being surrounded by other indigenous students had the same interest in May like they loved science all they loved learning. That really really helped me. I found. I'm not alone when it comes to. My Cultural Journey Jazzmen loves university loves leaving on the campus love studying medicine and surgery and loves his science growing up. I loved machines and I always. Watch documentaries with my dad. My family in America on my mom's side so we went to America. You want him. What did he go to Kennedy Space? I was like one thing I wanted to do. Got To walk out of the rocket and it was amazing and we went back when I was thirteen and we actually went to Houston. I've been to both places and it was phenomenal absolutely phenomenal. It's like you just don't know what's out there and I just love that. I remember the assignment that I fell in love with biology. Did an assignment and I did on the cardiovascular system and I loved it. That was like my first thing. I can rock and really study this for a full-time garden up into communities most roxy downs you really get to nor the needs of country towns. I guess so. To speak and a lot of country towns. They need doctors. I came to the realization that you know if I wanted to help my community. What is the best way I can show my community that I care about them and then I want to help them but in a first year of medical school jasmine was called back home for sorry business after two family members died? This is a really important grieving. Time for extended indigenous families. It was the best year of my life in the West here to be honest but the med schools very old and then not really flee away quite yet of the commitments of sorry business. And how long do you have to be away and what you have to go back home and do all this stuff? So that's why it was pretty hard to hire for about a month and a half to say goodbye to some family members which was really hot but I loved what I was. Learning Jazzmen is back doing first year again. To catch up on the coursework. She missed and this is where PhD. Student Tina Brody thinks things could be different. She's a research assistant at the South Australian Health and Medical Research Institute. People might say that as you know. Sorry business pulling us away from what we should be doing. But it's not that that's how cultural value about the the dominant society and the workplaces or university institutions. That way in just ought to respond to that always demands. Don't get me wrong. Are Men my obey about? Why can't we say actually have sorry business at that time? And therefore swat this commitment will look like and this is what. I'm able to deliver on for my work at that time. It's about the system actually catching up to our cultural values rather than us having to defend them or peak. One we are capable and I think that we're starting behind because of what was done to us through the process of colonization living in colonial environment. You know web behind because of that. Not any other reason you know so. We're having to like. I say we have to work harder and smarter. And all those things and being strong in yourself and your identity really sets you up to be able to bring that to whatever you and can ground you for years to come. Let's the future. But the past matters to to Rosemary Wang Yuan in her work with young indigenous paper these children have also come from a culture that many of them if not all of them knows that genocide was committed upon the ancestors what adults say in the educational system. What they always tend to miss is pass formless for the student. Tom's because we don't know what this story is what the history is they could be in uni for whole year doing fantastic and then they'll have trigger and be nice to even themselves and then they go to somebody to talk to them and if they haven't loved the schools they're not going to know how to help. The student manage those emotions that time if traumatized them and this is part of why some students die finish the university to grace for can't mentor and university student. Tian e Adamson attending these very same somersaults. Camp Cheney's go now. As a year. Ten student herself changed her life dramatically. She'd grown up with WHO loving mother. She knew she was indigenous. Father was indigenous man. But she'd never met him. I felt close in a way of the cultures and communities the I had been immersed in but to my own mob quad disconnected strong in the identity of of that being part of who I am but not strong in in my own law and my own coach away and after going through that wake in you know being able to engage in things like five. Pm night with these people of varying sages in phases of understanding their own cultural identity. In saying that I wasn't the only one I felt inspired to learn more about my own cultural identity so when I go home decided to give myself a bit of time to really think about if I wanted to get in contact with my dad. Not So. This camp prompted you to find your indigenous family absolutely. It had such a huge impact on on that part of my laugh culturally and inspired me to it. Took me a few more months of reflecting and thinking about that but sparked the journey of me getting touching my dad for the first time so I rang him in school holidays of my grade. Eleven what was that like for you? Will you nervous? Yes sodded anxious. Yeah I was all of those things notice excited and anxious remember cooling dad for the first time and I'm pretty sure it went to message bank and he called me back and I just remember like feeling that crazy like butterfly feeling in that funny feeling that you get in you start when you get bit nervous so that was pretty crazy. Had really quick chat to him then and said he was at work. Yeah I remember him asking what my name was and and I said that I was Tian Adamson Sarah Adamson's daughter and it was a hard thing to navigate some light. What do I what do I say here? And he said thank you literally what he said to me on the phone and then it was quiet for a little bit and he asked how old I was. And what forty tame I back four? Which is Hawthorn which is also who died bags for so he was stoked about that. Yeah I had such an interesting feeling in my stomach but I need that. It was the stop once that I had contacted him. For the first time that my life would never be the same again that that was a new thing that was going to be my life. It was there to stay and Tiana's looking forward to visiting her extended family on Thursday island. One die soon back cab. The students are hard at work on their inquiry projects. So today we're doing Inquiries apotheosis have been sit. Experiments plotted results are being collected. This is science people. What he's Matthew's group up to. My group has decided to test. If people relate taste brandt I am loving this pile chocolate in front of Matthew. Is this your experimental material? Yes yes it is. We have Eight blocks of chocolate and total. What brand you believe product see was from out of cadbury lint with the makers and green and black's green and Black Brennan in other groups. Insects are being countered and classified booed scouse living measured vagrancy since being fraud. I'm way decided to do an experiment based on food products which were either vacant based or animal base saying if the general public with subconsciously persuaded to enjoy animal products I will plant based products go ahead four categories so we had mints Bacon Cheese and milk and so we served up. Young people are amazing. They are intelligent inquisitive to riven motivated passionate. And it's providing opportunities for young people to save and truly believe that we have as aboriginal paper. We have an opportunity to take charge of research that is of benefit to our communities. We have an opportunity to take both the cultural knowledge that we hold tight. The knowledge of Western science bring them together for the benefit of Al paid for the benefit of society at large. We have a lot to give and communities have a lot to gain from engaging with aboriginal led research the more that we are included in an an afforded opportunities to be involved within society whether that baby science finance government. The more cohesive believe we are going to be as a society as a community as an Australian community and as indigenous people. We have a lot to offer. We have been here since the first sunrise. We have been here for all of time. This is a place that we are connected to within our very essence and mainstream society has a lot that I could gain from including US within the various different faculties that that exists. Tweeden Terai Society Science. Being one of those. It's the final morning of camp nerves are hard drive. Students are about to present their project results to a full auditorium scientists cultural leaders. Even some parents have looked up. Many of the students look genuinely terrified. Results from this one to me from the planet I I the but before then he had no idea what a ones do. Every time I was I just said Struggling shoulders now. I actually have an idea what I WANNA do. Specifically Looking at sports physiology this nice. Yvonne live real feeling of relaxing. The Room and pride got to be about one of the best and worst experiences in my life. Because I'm so happy though. Come here and experience. All this made everyone just sad. It's ending sad that we left Leeds now because like on the first day I was like I'm in my room. That's it that's made for the day but like every time went on. I started to become pin with people because I've lived with these people fool like another week. Also I like. There's no point in just hiding in the corner of something because I want to make this the best experience that I can really since that there was a sort of Tom Folding few across the way I probably couldn't imagine spending days nine days what did it give you beyond friendship. Beyond friendship thoroughly just A strong sense of myself and for the students summer school doesn't end with his party that we meant horde by zero for these last two years of high school. It's such a world away from what Rosemary. Wagon aimed the gun elder on camp experience when she went to school. In the early nineteen sixties were seven year old self was shamed by a schoolteacher for being original. Was that seven year old. Now you still. She's still the to remind me of a now and again but off the ball control of and then but since I found and healed together we reclined back. How FAITH AND TRUST CONFIDENCE? Sales team at intelligence from the teacher. Reclaiming them back and we just standing on the outside of the school yard Amnon. The guy's face and I said to my seven year old man utility to what four till who what you couldn't tell her on that day and just rip you did. This is a part of the healing and reconnecting to to grow her up so she's not a seven-year-old in me anymore and over reactive and so given their we're meeting forward and I'm taking her back to you. Andy Sixty three. Rosemary is doing a masters of philosophy at Leiden University. Now where she's a cultural adviser to and my thanks to all the students and staff involved in. Csiro'S ABORIGINAL Summer School for Excellence in technology and science and to the Wiltshire Boarding School for having me stay. I'm on twitter at Natasha. Mitchell joined the ABC for walking together. Twenty twenty on the path to reconciliation. Share your thoughts. Hashtag walking together. Twenty twenty more info. Abc Dot net dot org slash. Walking together I'll catcher. 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Hour 2: Stephen A. Santa
"Great News there's a quick way you can save money switch to Geico Geico could help you get great coverage at a great price and it only takes fifteen minutes to see if you could save fifteen percent or more more on car insurance go to GEICO DOT com today and see how much you could save. It would have surprised me at all if the eagles upset the cowboys. This we have no chance to win this game. No chance no chance in this game. OKAY IF THE DALLAS COWBOYS LOSE this game Jason Garrett should be fired in the locker room and he should have to get an Uber Uber to get to the airport and he should have to fly commercial. Welcome back to I say coming the APP here seventeen or the player would take off last night. Cowboys flies. True that is is true. The Cowboys Eagles Match Whiteley. Who Sat right? How you doing? Show up with the Gold Bowtie here you you the guys that was quite a very very powerful proclamation. You made last week. Yeah and the nation Jason Garrett should be fired. I think it should be fire now. Why are we waiting to see if they beat the Washington redskins or not? And I'll tell you why it's not over yet. I agree stranger. Things have happened in the cowboys in the play. Max is over for him. We've seen what he can do. I mean there's nothing there's no. There's no suspense involving Jason Garrett. There's there's no way to go but as you said Stephen this type of thing where when it's looks like it's over Garrett's to type in the title mainly the playoffs. Everyone hopes up higher higher. And then what's Today. I don't believe that now a Garrett various let me just say this Ryan. I don't know if you can see. There's a giant present on our desks. Stephen a brought a present for cowboys poise fans today and had a beautifully wrapped so that will be coming up a little later in the show. I can't wait to see what's in that lovely box. But I wanNA focus on Deck Prescott Right Dad Prescott Twenty five of forty four zero touchdowns Steven A. in all seriousness. He's playing for contract. What are the cowboys do with them? Now well first of all you don't give him the money that he was in pursuit of. But you still pay him in that ballpark. Dak Prescott never missed a game. He's just starting quarterback. He's your franchise quarterback like you now moving into different direction. I know the belief would be to franchise him for one year but he's better than that. There are plenty of quarterbacks in the league that had been worse than Dak Prescott that have long term deal. There's nothing wrong with making sure that he's your long term quarterback to the future. He's politically correct. These leader he definitely has disappointed. Boarded a franchise Players in that locker room beyond. He's reliable you don't hear any nonsense associated with 'em you can trust em and the bottom line is that again you WanNa make an argument about him. Have the argument of what you deserve between thirty and forty million because we know it ain't forty. It probably ain't thirty five but the bottom line is in today's NFL. Marco Even Matthew Stafford is getting twenty seven point nine million kirk cousins. Twenty eight million Matt Ryan is making thirty million dollars. Can't even have a five hundred record right now primarily because of their defense as opposed to the office by the way the bottom line is you can justify if you're Dak Prescott being being getting over thirty million dollars in light of that. I say if you're Jerry Jones the cowboys you give him that lengthy extension you. Just don't do it eh. An exorbitant fee that puts him above cost and wins puts him above Russell. Wilson Oh big rothlisburger or anybody like that. This is why I was right about this. This this is why I said the cowboys should wait to give the money. Because if they were going to set the market with him it was going to be like by a dollar and no matter how well he played he was only going to get like a dollar more or something like that then then the last guy but there was a chance he wouldn't perform and then you save some money. Here's the thing Dak has performed so poorly and last night and particularly killer Jason Garrett's playcalling just killed back but but also DAX play when they were driving down the field on that last drive we were all thinking the same thing. Oh my God the cowboys are going to tie this game. Go for the two point conversion. They're GonNa win this thing in overtime. Like oh my what is happening here. And then he was so bad at the end of that drive. I felt like that was it. That just as much as Garros killing him. That just fired Jason Garrett got him fired and got himself franchise. Here's the thing Steven A.. And I don't know like just you know maybe is it a racial. Is there a racial component to this at all. You notice white quarterbacks getting big contracts and and why would it be any different from that. I'm curious well I don't know about that. I think that in the case of Russell Wilson when he's making thirty five million he's the largest. He's the highest paid quarterback in football. He has a resume that backs it up. I'm not willing to go the route of To say there. And he's an asset reason I ask is because the undefeated did a piece on and the year of the black quarterback right and then we see the highest. QBR's and there seems to be a changing of the guard and the old hoodwink. Oh you shouldn't throw Enron that's bad if you can do more things is apparently now Daniel Jones and Carson Wentz and everyone. You'd better be able to move to trubisky get the whole thing. We know what we know what Russell Wilson is getting meeting and we know what Patrick Rice of the young draft class. It doesn't escape me that certain guys have already gotten paid and other guys haven't and what I would say about that is whatever other component is making you or maybe not feel a certain way. 'cause I even felt it. The fact of the matter is the RAMS TMZ or being killed by that golf contract right now. Even the Eagles and winces and elite talent different than Gulf War deck or getting killed by that contract grinded ended up earlier. You ever delete cornerback Ramsey on the market can't do it whence may need more help on the offense right. The wrong thing to do is throw bad. Money after do-gooder Dak Prescott right now. We've Seen New England. Obviously he's not even franchise he's a franchise tag guy this year. If fight ever seen one even healthy are we being fair to him today. Absolutely absolutely being fair. Because if you're out there you're out there to play. You have said that you know you are ready to go to show. There's how you can make the throws that you need to make. This team had six jobs last night. And you look at Michael Gallup dropping the post route that that he gets on jalen meals. But this was after Dak Prescott Mrs Tabin Austin on what was a potential touchdown with an opportunity to get the two point conversion Asia title game and so there are things that that could have done differently and you know a lot of times I may disagree with what makes has said about that Prescott but I believe even and I agree with him in this. If you go back to kirk cousins he had a twenty nine and eleven year twenty six and nine year there were times in Washington where you can look at his numbers and you can make the argument. He should have been paid the way he was paid when he went to Minnesota. And he was a franchise tag guy it was because he just hadn't showed you another to believe in them. And if you look at the stats this year. A lot of those empty stands where teams was trailing to Green Bay trilling to Chicago ways that he was able to stack the pads. Later on in the Games this was daggs opportunity you play against Carson WENTZ and a depleted eagles off. It's an eagles defence. That Amari Cooper has just torched throughout his career the last two years with the Dallas cowboys. And you don't come up with the plays listen. There were the Times that Amari Cooper seemed lifeless that he didn't have the energy there was also some bad play calling by killing more. When you only give a Zeki Elliot the ball thirteen times a week after you rushed for two hundred and fifty yards against the Los Angeles Rams? But I don't agree with Stephen and he he's. He's he's not going to set set the market. He's he's not going to get the thirty five forty that poor Stephen did say. I don't think he gets a contract because it doesn't seem like debt Prescott is going to want wants to settle. And he's not going to get at least to me in my estimation anymore. He was offered this off season. So it's going to be to take a deal you don't want or be franchised. Well see the thing about it. I'm not implying that he's going to. He's going to accept it. I'm saying that he's going to get offered. Gosh I think that that definitely is going to be the case. I also think when you look at this yesterday. I think Jerry Jones in your Stephen Jones. You're looking at this roster that we have and I think the people that are going to be gone Jason Garrett Kellen Moore doesn't listen they scored they gave the Philadelphia. Eagles gave up thirty eight to Minnesota. Thirty seven to the Dallas Cowboys. Another thirty seven into the Miami Dolphins. But somehow someway clamp down on a Dallas cowboys with the Dallas cowboys couldn't even get in the end zone. This is after Jerry. Jones paid is offensive. Line is after he paid Ezekiel Elliott. This is what Amari Cooper are. Okay on a fourth and eight. And he's not even on the field we didn't even bring that up. He's not even on the field. And Ezekiel Elliott only getting thirteen carries. I think when you look at the roster if you're Jerry Jones you WANNA hold onto something for dear life. You know what you're going to hold on to you what you believe to be as your your credibility as a GM. I gave you this talent and look what you did. And that's where I think all of this change. Don't forget Amari Cooper needs a contract. So you'RE GONNA Franchise Franchise won't give another a contract. You probably going to Mario Cooper wideout contract cheaper brought back and by the way real quick mahomes is give give them all the money in the world. You Lamar Jackson. Aaron Rodgers drew brees. These are all the money in the world type players because they can elevate the team whence his talent talent suggested he deserved it but he hadn't really done it yet. Otherwise if you do that to a quarterback who's not worth it because you're so scared of losing him you get killed. Dak should be franchised based on his plate but also when you go to Jared Goff and Carson Wentz you had to remember those guys who are taking one into into in the draft teams. Don't WanNa be wrong about that. GM's don't want to be wrong for making that decision at the top of the draft is so you had one of those guys who is going to a super bowl another one who we thought would be the MVP in two thousand seventeen before he's heard and so I think that's why they get their deals a little bit early because you believed believed in their Taylor enough to get the short Ryan Max. His Way. I think you're wrong about Dak Prescott. I think ultimately he will accept the deal. Here's why not just because of the year of the Dallas cowboys have had but also he went into yesterday's game hurt. It doesn't guarantee you could miss out on a lot more money. If you take another risk for a second consecutive year he did it wants to she. I don't think he does it again. That interesting. We'll leave it there. Dallas one and six and one possession games this season only the bengals are worse. We thought we could come up here and play a better game than we played and thought right up until the very end of the the thing that we can come in and make some place and get it done but so it is very meaningful game because of concert circumstances circumstances within the League and we had times this year a lot when we didn't play as well as we wanted to play but We're had in mind stepping back up here and getting on the run and having some good things happen. This is the disappointing setback. That Locker Room Karol as you just heard Jerry Jones expressing disappointment for the cowboys blowing a huge opportunity opportunity to clinch the NFC east a spot in the playoffs. We welcome back Ryan Clark and we haven't forgotten about Stephen as gifts bearing gifts. Tis is the season to be jolly spreading joy for all cowboys fans across the country. When we opening this we can open this? The end of the show can't wait. That was so sweet of you could always thinking of all right. FELLAS potentially another missed opportunity for Jerry and the cowboys this season. I know they're not totally out. Max Are you optimistic or pessimistic for Jerry's future feature as the cowboys owner pessimistic. If what you mean is they're going to win another championship. Look Jerry Jones should be proud of himself in the sense that he ain't a GM. Like I know. He played some football when he was younger. The small like offensive linemen he energy and how many a lot of us who would who would love to own a team and think we could be GM's wouldn't Jerry. Jones was an offensive lineman. So right wow my anyway. You could wikipedia then seven. Yeah that's just expecting a plan the line of all traditions. If I could be wrong about that I seem to recall anyway. The point is research house right. How's the point is a lot of us who would love to own a team? Some professional sports franchise and think we could. GM IT veterans a wrong like it's hard to gm you know back in the day before analytics but now when everyone has a ph seven hd's working in your analytics department. It's hard and I'll tell you something I'm not even talking about M- excluding the championships. Happy and chips a quarter century ago. Saying over the last twenty three years Stephen. No you like to say average is okay but in fact when you really do the math Jerry has performed formed as a GM overall. I would say a tick above average. That's an accomplishment. That's not bad but that's what you are. I mean there's certain point you are what your record says as you are and I think that he is so thirsty to be known as a coach and GM that he and Steven Jones combined are not good enough in the front office. If you're a cowboys fan. They're not good enough and the number one reason they're not it's not even the draft anymore or anything like that. They won't hire the right coach. Because the right coaches ego would have to be big enough that they would get credit instead of Jerry for success and so I am pessimistic. That Jerry will actually hire the right coach and then even if he does leave him alone to do his thing even if that coach starts to get shine that's the only way they're going to win a super bowl. I'm not optimistic mystic about it at this point. Well I'm optimistic about it and I'm going to take. I don't have my cowboy hat on right now and I'm not playing. I have fun at the expense of Dallas Cowboy fans because 'cause I despise them I can't stand there disgusting and nauseating I mean it would every five of my being and I'm ecstatic that cowboy fans across the world going to have a miserable miserable Christmas. I can't stand cowboy fan my boy mark Turner that I went to college with all of them him on down. I can't stand standby hope. They have a miserable Christmas. Because that's how I hate cowboy fans. The cowboys are a different matter. I do not feel that way about the organization and in all seriousness. I genuinely do not feel that way about Jerry Jones. I like him a lot. I'm sad for him and I think that this particular season he is getting an and incredibly incredibly bad rap. I understand that history brings that into the equation but when you look at the job of a GM part of the job. He has done very well. which is accumulating the level of talent and locking them up and the one guy the two guys he didn't give heating give that lengthy contract to the one guy which is a starting quarterback that Prescott has had? He's had pretty good moments throughout the season. The issue in question is what Max ended with. It comes down to coach now. I am told that urban Meyer will be a candidate for the job that will warrant consideration. I am told that urban the Meyer would love to be the coach of the Dallas Cowboys. My personal opinion and this hurts me because we all know I love my steelers and and I can't stand the cowboys because of their fans but the perfect guy for the job would be getting giving the steelers first round pick whatever it it takes getting Mike Tomlin over the Dallas and give him Mike Tomlin look and the cowboys might teen. I know I know that I know that I'm just telling you though what I believe to be best because I believe that the person that has the ability to galvanize has the troops and make sure that Jerry Jones is just knows. 'cause you know Jerry is GonNa Jerry Okay and Jerry is GonNa want his input but at the end of the day if you got a guy that knows. Rose had a rally folks based on his direct communication with Tomlin. Is that Shell. We'll talk about future going to manage the red sox but listen. I'm I'm just telling you how I feel man that's all I'm doing. All I'm saying is at the end of the day what this comes out to his. I'm I'm optimistic. Because I believe that age seventy seven Jerry. Jerry has reached the point. And that's what I think he saw yesterday wasn't a guy that was just said from losing time's running out and I think he's seventy seven and he sees he's like I got. I can't be worried about feelings anymore. I can't be worried about personal relationships anymore. I gotta get this done. Because tomorrow is not guaranteed. I think more than ever Jerry Jones is looking at its own mortality. He will make the change that is necessary and Dallas will be. The I'm pessimistic. I don't believe that he will. I believe go after the biggest name he could possibly get to coach's team but Jerry Jones. The owner needs to fire Jerry Jones. The general manager and this should have happened and years ago. Max Talks about this team being average or Jerry Jones being average as the general manager average general managers. Don't get a quarter of a century to be the heads of teams. That's not how it works when you don't win Super Bowl when you don't advance to NFC championships. You don't get time after time and draft at the draft and coach after coach to get it fixed and so I'm pessimistic about it. And he is faced with his own mortality and not just his football football mortality. Jerry Jones is getting to age where it's not necessarily means that he won't be on this earth but there's going to get a point to the age where you don't have the energy to do this job anymore. You don't have the energy to be out in front of everybody at their each game in talk and be the headliner and so he does have to understand that but even in that is is he going to put his mortality in the place of okay. I'm getting to the end of this road and I want to win the Super Bowl and take a step back or is he going to say I'm getting to the end of Israel. I want to be the main reason and I want to be the focal point in the Super Bowl. We win and I'd be. I think he chooses the latter Revoz Jerry Jones. Jerry Joe is people. Don't change at the seventy seven years. That's not how it works. A billionaire and your team is worth five point five billion. You Ain't tripping on it and I don't I don't think Jerry Jones changes I don't think team gets better and we keep talking about the talent that they have. I'm even starting to question New Ryan right me too but let me just say that's the whole question and that's the way. I framed it for years now like the clock is ticking. On Jerry's time on earth let alone when he has the faculties and the ability to just be as president. President is he is. Is that pressure to win enough to convince them. Okay I need to change the way. I'm doing things when he's made billions of dollars. It's tough to tell that. No No. Just take this part of your personality and change it. I don't know if these capable of doing that but Stephen as I've got you on this. How can you be optimistic when remember when we got the news that that Dorsey is splitting with management? And he wants to keep kitchens. That was the reporting. And you're like all. Oh excuse me if Dorsey signing with kitchens he's gotTa go Jerry. Jones has done that now with Jason Garrett as you said earlier in the show. It's not like just this season we're like yes to get rid of guarantee going on for years. Now he's stuck by that guy he needs as Ryan says to Clean House of the office. These rhetorical questions the handing it to you the he needs to clean house in the front office in my opinion and that includes him. I think that's a ridiculous comparison reason. Why is because Dorsey answers to an owner Jerry? Jones doesn't answer to anybody but that's why wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute. But that's not his question so you have a point if you his question was different. I'm answering Max's. Axes questioned the fact that the matter is. When you compare Jerry Jones to John Dorsey? John Dorsey knows he has a superior he knows. He has someone to answer to and still makes aches to dump decision that he made as it pertains to Freddie Kitchen. Okay Ma pointed jerry. Jones gets to make one decision after another after another ally. James Dolan. Why because you know you ate fiery yourself you nobody could get out Ryan got to say this? You know what that's about. I get on the Knicks about this but Stephen a great point there you know who Jerry Jones really should answer to are the cowboys fans but the fact of the matter is cowboys. Fans like Knicks fans. Even though they've had more success recently don't will hold the owner accountable. They will show up and root for the cowboys every year and talk about them being die hard but in fact what's the real incentive for Jerry changed the way he does the other pieces this if you listen to Jerry Jones Talk. It's still not him. There has never been an opportunity where he's gotten in front of the media after these games they said you know what. Maybe I didn't pick this team right. Maybe I didn't get the right coaches in. He's actually say when it gets down to the in. If there's a discussion to be had I am the final answer and when you get to be the final answer. It's your fault even if Jason. Gary doesn't coach this team will. Kelly Moore isn't calling plays in the ways that he should not run. I play action second. That's Jerry's folk. If he says it comes down to him in the end he needs to hold himself accountable and he he is below the line at the job. And you don't get an opportunity to change that it's time to put someone else in charge of it and be the owner of the team. A continue to stroke these checks that you say. Your hand doesn't cramp up from and I guess what I'm saying to you is. I'm asking a question that none of us know to answer to because none of us seventy seven years years of age does it get to a point in your life with the clock is ticking so conspicuously in your own mind that you sit up there and say excuse me changes changes in order remember. I'm not bringing this up as a joke Jerry. Jones brought up his own mortality years ago. He said I'm running out of time. Failing yeah and so when you look at it from that perspective and then you see. I don't know of anybody notices this but you see that sweet whatever sweet jerry is sitting it it gets more oh and more crowded as the Games go on you see his son Steven and then you see another Sunday and then you see grandchildren. Ramadan is the everybody. Because excuse me is GRANDPA's well you just see people that's recognize it and I'm not GonNa lie to you. I see people and I don't notice to be true but I see people people around Jerry and they're starting to look conceive eight steam. They're starting to leave certain questions in order to change. Do you believe someone has to accept that. They're they're wrong yes. I don't know that Jerry Jones has accelerated Sinatra. I think sports I think sports more sold them. Life doesn't afford you wiggle room not to look at yourself because the result of the result and they're running out but it's hard to admit you're wrong. Just look at Max Kellerman element admitting when I'm wrong. It's just infrequent you're never wrong sides Ryan. Merry Christmas thank you your home is important. That's why GEICO helps make it easy to save on Homeowner's insurance because home is more than just a place home is where you curl up on the couch in a fetal position and cry cheesy movies even though you've seen them a thousand times have all the lines memorized with me. The GEICO Insurance Agency can help protect the tear film comfort zone of you call call Geico and see how easy it is to switch and save on Homeowner's insurance. It's better. I training season for the browns to say the least and superstar. Why Beckham Junior during yesterday's loss to the Ravens? LBJ was seen tossing his helmet getting into a heated discussion with coach. Freddie Kitchens after failed to point convergence bowl player and coach were asked about the incident. Post get something dealing with one of their guys. Don't say it wasn't the call or anything like that. I don't think there's a big brother. He's voicing voicing frustration on how they're treating him. Yeah something like that you'd have to do. You need to ask him that. I don't know on talking to embrace. It was something that the ravens were doing to you. Say Susan's tokens thing. He was just talking about the offense. I presented football. You know the refs making calls and basically wanted me that I have another more your personal foul. Whatever it is and I'd be out the game which I mean I thought was pretty stupid? But why got a personal foul for celebration. I've I've gone all year Max Drama yesterday. Big Deal or no big big DOC deal and they're not telling the whole story there obviously about what happened. It's a big deal for a couple of reasons number one because Odell problems in New York and now is showing that he's is having problems in Cleveland and that doesn't look good for him although I don't even think that's the biggest deal. The biggest deals whatever you WANNA say about. Oh del you know how I say. Stay when Baker Mayfield is in trouble as he loses Odell because owed debt like you look at Baker and I thought going into this year. That's all I thought it coming out of college college. I thought it going into his second season in the league. He's a baller. And that's why it's going to be okay. Because he has ballers all around them and even the full Dell's not getting the ball a a lot that means he's double cover someone else's open baker will find them that means you're handing the ball to one a year elite running backs Nick Chub or Kareem Hunt As long as that's happening I think go dell is fine. The problem is this vote. Dell's not getting the ball thrown his way because he's double covered or whatever and you think it's now the resources are gone from another place let's exploit the weakness but you can't get it done now. You have a problem with Odell because what he's saying is you're not a baller and I think I think that's a huge issue for Baker Mayfield but also for the coach. We saw Jarvis Landry having issue with coach recently and now we saw Odell have an issue with coach and that means they're talking to each other and boys from college. They're not happy with coach. That's how it reads. It looks to me like kitchens has lost a team. I he told them wrong. That's the outward impression and I think for that reason it's a big deal. It's not a big deal at all as it pertains to Odell Beckham junior precisely because of the nuggets of information that you just gave out that I think supports Odell Beckham. Junior number one are Freddie. Kitchens is over his head. Everybody and their grandmother knows it. He needs needs to be gone as head coach of the Cleveland Browns. I feel sad and saying this because I think that he did a good job as an offensive coordinator. I think he did a good job as a position coach. I think he belongs in football. I just don't believe he deserves to be in this leadership position being a leader of men. Because he's just too young. How many people go from being a position coach to an offensive offensive coordinator to the head coach inside eight months? Who Does that that doesn't happen in? NFL But it happened for him. And it was a huge mistake on the part of John. Dorsey point number. Two due to Baker Mayfield is the reason. He's the head coach. Because this first year quarterback Tom had a few good games. Once Jackson was five. Said I like this guy and John Dorsey. And the Cleveland browns wanted to appease Bacon make their first overall pick in the NFL draft. And what does that amounted to disaster. Missed an eighteen interceptions just nineteen touchdowns complete sixty percent of his passes. Don't get me started with him. He ain't ready yet either. Dan We get to Jarvis Landry. Why is Jarvis Landy? He's such a big deal in all of this ladies and gentlemen not only as Jarvis Landry a damn good receiver. He's a classy do he. Never it gets associated with this kind of the fact that he himself is just a couple of weeks removed from having an issue with something on the field with Freddie Kitchens to me somewhat. INSULATES Odell Beckham Junior. Because you look at the Cleveland browns and you see the absolute mess that they are. Aw that it sort of dissipates. Momentum that would the aid in Odell Beckham Jr Junior's direction. And then we get to the giants and we see what the giants have looked like this shipped tipped. We also hear maximally complaining about those New York. John we also have Max Kellerman on national television saying what the Hell you give up. Odell Beckham to the fourth him with Saquon Barkley. We don't want to hear anything about a product. Did he break any laws. You get in trouble with the police officers or anything like that. No he might have been a bit temperamental remember on the sidelines from Tom. Atop that's what tylenol and Ibuprofen advil and all of that is fourth get over it you wa because this brother is an elite elite talent. And especially when you're looking at a giant organization which by the way never knew championships until Lt Cable Law. Now we're not comparing during the talent as great as Odell Beckham is as a town. WE AIN'T NOBODY TO LT. What we're saying is what were you willing to tolerate? Because he was Lt. We all know Takada onto stuff that lt got into the giants organization and care about it then so this very organization prides itself on being some gold standard. We gotta act or properly and do things the right wait. You didn't capture super bowls that way this. These are all the things that we're talking about. I don't think Odell Beckham looks back in all of this at all. I think this is an indictment right mint against kitchens which is why he will be going. I think it's a big deal for that reason. But for Odell who came into the League as I I three years. Let's say until we got hurt. I was looking at going. That's the most talented wideout who ever live. I know they've got. What about Randy Moss? I thought Odell also probably the best athletes in the world like either him or Lebron James and for him to have a season like the one he just had now. He's away from the giants and he's with a quarterback who's supposed to be better that is an issue for by the way he is perceived. I get that and the larger thing is how do you know that Freddie Kitchens has lost him right or maybe even Baker has just put yourself in Odell position like ying. Get the ball at all this year. They just didn't look your way and your team was losing the poor whispering. Remember to Jimmy Garoppolo. Come get me that kind of thing reports on the niners which is why. It's not a big deal problems. It's human human nature to hate problems but why is that after all problems inspire us to mend things then things make things better. That's why so many people work with IBM on everything from city. Traffic to ocean plastic new schools to new energy flight delays to food safety. SMART LOVES PROBLEMS IBM. Let's put smart work visit ibkr Dot com slash smart to learn more well. It looks like Christmas came early for Steven A.. And he has a gift a special one for all cowboys fans across America do. Would you like the opening night. Yeah I WANNA WANNA say I WANNA save it till the end of the segment. You know. It's just it's guys okay. This everybody excited. I thought it might be a black cat but uh hey that's just me. That'd be very careful of Max. He goes to the animals. I love animals minimal Fox like this. I'm I am nice to animals. I realized everything. Thank you the eagles are one giants win. I can't even talk anyway. The Eagles can clinch the NFC with it against the giants. We know this right. Are they a lock to win the title. They're not a lock it would be the most. NFC East dish thing ever for for the eagles to collapse against the giants and the cowboys to win on the last Game Day of the season and make the playoffs because tiebreakers the giants. I have a couple of things. The Eagles need to worry about number one. They have a guy he had a bad ankle. saquon wouldn't admit it. Because he's a franchise quarterback saquon looks healthy now to seventy six memss current eight hundred yards first quarter on believable. This dude is different. Like McCaffrey is great. There are a lot of greenbacks saquon when he's healthy is in a class by himself and he doesn't even know what he's doing yet like he's going to get better and Daniel Jones. I I it quarterback with three hundred fifty yards. ITV's no interceptions. Daniel Jones won province. He fumbles he doesn't have that. Pocket Awareness Weirdness City holds the ball too. Long it's fumbles for no reason. But that's that's a good problem to have you would think not people don't want to get that fixed but Daniel Jones looked better better against Washington than winced it Daniel Daniel Jones from preseason. You're like whoa bloom. ooh sorry get them. And you're right about the long about a lot of stuff right about Daniel Joel's the giants could easily beat the eagles that could happen. And then it's up to the cowboys Stephen. So I wouldn't wouldn't say you could put it that way. Here's what I'm willing to guarantee you. Tabloids ain't going to playoffs that's over now how that's going to happen. You pick your poison always in either. The Eagles win or eagles lose. The cowboys are aware of it. Both Games started fourteen thousand five stand atop Sunday afternoon. Bottom line is this. You could sit up there and it could be like seven o'clock and the Eagle Somehow someway messed up and lost the New York giants. 'CAUSE Saquon Barkley Goes Zirk and Danny Jones owned Danny dodgers touchdown passes but it's still three minutes left and the redskins cowboys game scores tied and they got. They know that the Eagles lost and their playoff lives still Alana line somehow some way. There's another opportunity that presented so that they lose again. Oh that would be so job. You can't make this keep trying to tell you up when it comes to the cowboys. Just wait be patient questions get. Don't get ahead you on a slow law down and just wait and it's GonNa come and that's how a potentially episode playoff. There's either going to be with the eagles with it or lose it and a couch. That was still lose and the lady worse for that for it to unfold the way you thought. I think that's brilliant and the cowboys. Or what about if the cowboys win. And the Eagles Eagles are winning or losing their game but Daniel Jones fumbles at the end or Carson Wentz. Does something bigger. Yeah I guess so tomato one worse for the cowboys I think them losing after the after the Eagles lose cowboy fans know that. There's still a few minutes. Hey the playoffs. Yeah that'll bad Christmas. You roll roll tablet. That's not the TV and let the kids. He sure. Does I facetime Jamie Foxx. Yesterday we answered answered the facetime like this. This is looked at me just disgusted. Omar hit me. We ripped shots when he sees me my boy mark I can't find his. Ap for the play make urban. The COPS OPS looking for Michael Irvin Lauer asks assistant. I came phone has a lot of nerve from New York. The Cana it's fabulous. I guess you could call him out for that. You can get some nerves worse than someone who grew up in the area for the cabinet if grew up in New York and you root for an out of market team. That man has a steelers Omar as via to go at the cowboys games in a suite. Shelat come on. He'd he'd be happy family over family barbecues and just if face Tom and talk about the cowboys but it took a few hours to get in touch with me. Yesterday took a few hours. Hey Michael Irvin again. I can't garbage. Listen have I not been able to find if Tampa rooting for the eagles could have been told at the end of that game yesterday. You got the juice juice now. But he was for the cowboys. What I think Jerry Jones needs to bring Michael Irvin and then a front office capacity member? It was Michael Irvin when Jimmy Johnson. I arrived Rob Jimmy Johnson. Says what do we need to change around here to win. and Michael Irvin literally came here with a list of everybody he needed to get rid of. You need that. What do changes on the cowboys? Jason Garrett's ten years cowboys head coach of becoming to an end. His job status has been a big topic of conversation all season early to coach. Dallas has only three winning seasons at only two playoff wins. Stephen who the cowboys need need as their new head coach like I said earlier I think Mike Tomlin would be perfect. It's not going to happen but I think Mike Tomlin you're talking about a guy that's just a high and motivator. Somebody that knows how to galvanize the troops somebody that achieves with little at his disposal. You give him a team. I think the only the people that were beat him as Bill Belichick. I'm talking about a cat that will go there. And even though here Jerry Jones because Jerry Jones would be a fixture Michael Irvin was. I'm sorry Mike Gordon Mike Tomlin would be like. I got this not to Jerry Jones but to the rest of the team and I think that they would hear his voice more than anybody even though too but I think that's impractical. Even that would be ideal for me. What I've heard and what I completely support? Urban Meyer is interested in the job. He would love to be head coach for the Dallas Cowboys Cowboys. He is confident that he would be able to deal with Gerry. Jerry Jerry is considering it but in no no way has he come to the conclusion that urban Meyer is going to be the next guy but urban Meyer wants that job from what I'm hearing. Look I mean here's the one place that there's no salary cap and this is why coach salaries exploded in the NBA. When they got all this new money but they still had the cap because to put a winning team on the floor? Where else can we spend vessel coaches salaries exploded? You got when you said they'd be better than anyone. Bella chip the easiest answer is just double triple belichick salary. Just poach him everything he wants. All you can't give him that much. You're a billionaire you whatever. He's making what he wanNA leave though and deal with the situation. I don't know you could prove if you could prove that you're actually the greatest and it. was you not anyone else but that's not realistic. Realistically the best option for the cowboys I believe. And the one I want to see is Lincoln Riley when you revolutionize offense the way the air raid did not only change college football changed the NFL and stole many. They were coach is going to him to figure out what to do. And it's one thing if then people make adjustments and you can adjust back that's a parlor trick you came up with and then people figured it out. But here's Oklahoma in the playoffs without a defense as usual I think Lincoln Riley is the way to go if I was a cowboys fan. I would want Lincoln College though. You'd you want someone proven not only that I think is a struggle whether or not he would be a lead of men. I know you would be great for Dak Prescott whether the rest of the team. I don't know openness now yeah it cannot openness net going to open my sister com gift. Wrap this okay a beautiful job beautiful. Nothing yes he does. We told US right here. It's a shame to theft papers. Did so nice it. Oh you don't need scissors okay. What's in this gal is aggressive? Not a cat breath. What's in here? I don't know absolutely nothing. No no no playoff absolutely positively. aww Nothing Christmas cowboy fans. That's what's in this Christmas gift. That is my Christmas present. Oh all the cowboy fans spares across the world absolutely positively. N- thing because that's where you deserve. I wish I had of Catholic Stephen. So bad is absolutely positively the Tivoli nothing no to visit crown. No playoff appearance. No Super Bowl all this would keep saying that to be Yoga. Bring it on now keep saying it because every twenty four years has it keep going keep you sane sensitive a loser testing intensity. y'All keeping comet put fetig cowboy fans everywhere breath. Merry Christmas stocking Komo goal even just nothing. That's how the Dallas cowboys at this short. Christmas tree would apprentice. How Christmas is GonNa be Cowboy fans? How's it going to be? That was inspired. Got Nothing when Dako opens up football above vikings thoughts on this one. It's big game I'm GonNa go with the packers. The Vikings don't have Dalvin Cook okay. I think the Vikings should win. They're five and a half point favorites. I have to believe it's in that bad man somewhere. Still an Aaron Rodgers has been game managing all year has some big performances. This is in the playoffs. I don't think it's out of the question. The packers can make the Super Bowl. I gotTA start seeing it from our in Rogers and I have faith in them. I think he's going to have a big game and win. Cousins gotTa Oughta Win and Monday night football at some. What do you expect from Kirk tonight? I think he will perform well but I don't think it's going to be enough without delving. Cook to lean on. Don't forget stealing back. Yes that's right on that. One style score a touchdown they will score a touchdown like the cowboys scored a touchdown. He's the meanest meanest thing to give someone a gift unikely wrath and. There's no prison and the cowboys did.