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"alan gardner" Discussed on The Worldshapers

The Worldshapers

01:52 min | Last week

"alan gardner" Discussed on The Worldshapers

"Of the world. Shapers my name is every time your host and this is the podcast right. Talk to other science fiction and fantasy authors about their creative process. I myself an author of science fiction and fantasy author of many many novels and short stories and things like that my most recent books include the world shapers series from books The third one. The moonlit world came out about a year ago and my next book for dog will be a humorous space opera called the tangled stars. That'll be out about a year from now and inbetween. I've been publishing some other stuff. Including most recent the uae. A science fiction novel called star song through my own shadow press but one of my major projects. Right now and it's coming up on. November second will be released is a shapers of world volume two. That's an anthology featuring science fiction and fantasy short stories by authors. Who were guests on this podcast during its second year. I kickstarted that successfully earlier this year. It was a follow up to last year's shapers of worlds which featured eighteen stories from first year guests of the podcast which i also started successfully and It's all come together very nice. St twenty four stories there are New stories from kelley armstrong. Marie brennan. Helen deo candice. Jane dorsey lisa foil susan forest. James alan gardner. Matthew hughes healthy kennedy..

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"alan gardner" Discussed on As It Happens from CBC Radio

As It Happens from CBC Radio

08:34 min | 2 weeks ago

"alan gardner" Discussed on As It Happens from CBC Radio

"You know you're smart friends who always seem to have the best celebrity gossip. I'm talking about the ones who always know. We should be watching or reading or listening to or what if you could pick their brains. Every week pop chat is a brand new podcast but does exactly that and feels like spending time with your best friend. Sue join me. Levin abdel mahmoud and a panel of the smartest culture critics that i know as we dissect the discourse but also have a great time doing it in the mid nineteen sixties cognitive researcher. Robert alan gardner and his wife beatrice raised a ten month old chimpanzee as if she were their child. They named her wash. Oh federal oatmeal with onions. And pumpkin pudding and taught her american sign language which the chimps successfully used to communicate with. Her foster parents wash learned two hundred words. In progress was considered a breakthrough. She was described as the first non human to communicate with people are. Alan gardner died in august at his ranch in nevada. He was ninety one here. He is talking about the chimpanzee in the one thousand nine hundred ninety four documentary the first signs of washio. What we're interested in is not i whether it fitted some abstract theory of linguistics but whether the chimpanzees could actually communicate information to us things we didn't already know we had many informal observations of this for instance A chimpanzee was high in the tree and see over the house and see who is arriving and you could ask wash. Oh who's coming. And she could tell us. Tell us something. We didn't know mary. Lee jen's volt is a primate behavior professor. Who studied with mr gardner. We reached her in chapel hill. North carolina of hearing alan gardeners will i send describing why he wanted to be able to communicate with washable. Well it it. It gave me chills to tearing his voice. Cause i hadn't heard it since we've gotten the news of his death. He's just a brilliant person and Is work with his wife. Trixie gardner is really some of the most profound work in terms of understanding our place in nature and our relationship with other species. Can you just give us a bit of the background of how alan gardner and his wife came to be raising. This chimpanzee wash show raising in very much like a child. Other researchers done previous experiments trying to teach chimpanzees to talk And those experiments were failures and allen and trixie gardner realized well. They can't talk. But what if we give them another means of communication because they have hands and they gesture and so they hit on american sign language and that was the mode that they used with wash oh and a replicated their research with four other chimpanzees last surviving of those chimps taught to let's fun of foundation which is canada's only chimpanzee sanctuary located outside of montreal. And that's where you work isn't it. That's right yes did you know. Why did you ever meet her. Yes i i knew wash very well i met her and the other cross foster chimps in nineteen eighty six so i was actually with wash show The moment that she died So yep they told me what it's like to be to be champ all of us that were privileged enough to have conversations with them. It was amazing. Because i don't think that alan gardner trixie set out to. They were really interested in not just sign language but what other aspects of culture chimpanzees would acquire and when it worked then they went on to tell us what it was like. They being the chimps. What it's like to be a chimpanzee in one of my last conversations with alan. We were talking about how controversial the research had been. And we've kind of laughed that wow after what five or six decades it continues to be so controversial and if we really think about what it means for chimpanzee to tell us their thoughts that can tell us if they're sad or happy or if they're in pain it really sort of rocks are typical perception of non human animals in our culture. And when you start down that rabbit hole it makes you question what we do to them in laboratories in the food industry And if you really embrace what the chimps are telling us and it means you have to rearrange some of the things that we're doing in our culture. We know that all kinds of animals communicate with each other. They have vocabulary. They have languages. We know that wales communicate dolphins do all kinds of non human primates prairie dogs. Half of a full vocabulary. Why was it important to see if non-human could communicate with us so we have to put ourselves in the context of nineteen sixty six when they started this research. All of the things that you just mentioned. We didn't know now we do know that. All sorts of non human animals have rich natural means of communicating. That wasn't understood at the time. Really the zeitgeist was. How can we get them to communicate in a means that humans will understand. How important do you think his work was well. The work should never be replicated chimpanzees to be. What's their chimpanzee mothers. They shouldn't be inhuman home. This research can be used for Advocating for chimpanzees on many levels. I think it was instrumental in helping to get them out of biomedical research. There's the non human rights project More there is a case in the united states to get person hood. I think un unbeknownst and unrealized Also to to our and trixie gardner is the implication for providing a very enriched environment that was critical in the research that they did the environment that the young chimp were raised him had to be as close to a human household is possible with lots of things to do interesting people to talk to interesting things to do and again. In that era in the fifties and sixties most primatology were doing deprivation study so they were putting Young chimpanzees little black boxes for six to twelve months and finding out how pathological they were the gardeners were doing quite the opposite. Today and caring for chimpanzees laws mandate that they have to be in enriched environments. And i don't think the gardeners realize the contribution that they were making. Maybe appreciate you telling us about. Alan gardner thank you. Thank you all for doing a piece about someone who is so. Brilliant made such an incredible contribution to our understanding of of nature. Chris thank you. Thank you mary legions. Volt is a primate behavior. Professor who studied with the late are alan gardner. He died august. Ms jen's volts spoke to us from chapel.

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"alan gardner" Discussed on The Worldshapers

The Worldshapers

03:37 min | 5 months ago

"alan gardner" Discussed on The Worldshapers

"Do another episode of the world. Shapers the podcast. Right talked to other science fiction fantasy authors about their creative process. My name is edward willett. i'm your host. And i myself an author of science fiction and fantasy some twenty novels. I've lost count actually for multiple publishers. My main publisher is Books in new york and my latest book for them is the moonlit world book. Three in my world-shapers series Said in a labyrinth of shaped worlds where the people who shape those worlds who came for our world originally We're given world said. They could do whatever they wanted to. With and as a result As my main character shawna keys travels from real world trying to gather the knowledge of the making of these worlds so she can save them all from the attempted destruction of all these worlds by the adversary She encounters all sorts of different worlds. First world is her own world when she discovers that she's a shaper and what's going on and it's very much like our world in world-shapers book to master of the world is a jules verne steam punk kind of a world Shaped by somebody. Who really likes jules verne. So it's got weird ships and submarines and all that kind of stuff and then book three The moonlit world which is out in trade paperback and e book right now and will be out in mass market. Paperback in august Is what i like. I like to call it. Where wolves vampires and peasants. Because that's the kind of world that that is my other be sent to release just through my own shadow press. It's called blue fire It's a young adult fantasy epic young adult fantasy a standalone and it's written under my pseudonym e c blake if you go to shattuck press dot com. You can find that book and many of my other books Most of the shadow pop press books at the moment are books that were previously published by other publishers which are sadly no longer with us so i brought them out myself But there are some other books there including shapers of worlds which is an anthology of short fiction by authors. Who guests of this podcast theory. Its first season. So that was people like david brennan. John scholars e in tanya huff and joe haldeman. And john mcguire and while i could go on there were eighteen in all Very impressive List of authors and that book was successfully kick started last year and is now available everywhere in trade paperback and e book and on amazon. You can also order hardcover. That was such success that i decided to kick start volume two featuring second year guests of this podcast and that was successfully kick started in march. So i'm working on it right now. I have a lot of the stories in hand others to come and it's going to feature this time. I have the list. In front of me so willis everybody. It will feature new fiction from kelley armstrong. Brennan has deo candice jane. Dorsey lisa foils. Susan forced james. Alan gardner matthews healthy kennedy. Lisa kessler adria lay craft. Irony ayman garth. Nix ten pratt. Edward salvio brian. Thomas schmidt jeremy saul and me plus reprints from jeffrey carver. Barbara hambly naturally chris. David d levine. Sm sterling and kerry von so another really really impressive list even more fiction this time twenty four stories instead of eighteen. And that's in the works now. It should be available. This fall in various formats and i will certainly keep you updated as that develops and again. That's shadow pa. Press dot com Shadow presa named after our cat shadow are siberian. Gets outta you can also find a book everywhere anywhere. You want to buy books. You can find shapers of worlds. It's available on amazon..

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"alan gardner" Discussed on The Worldshapers

The Worldshapers

03:25 min | 7 months ago

"alan gardner" Discussed on The Worldshapers

"How did you make the switch from historical to science fiction Oh that was easy by the historical The market for historical fiction in the united states completely collapsed About may of nineteen eighty two. And so what i plan is attend book series became a five book series And so i spent a desperate six months writing proposals for things that didn't sell And it was across the spectrum. I've read proposals for mysteries for historical Spent not for science victory A and everything but category romance. I think and And none of them sold. And then science fiction proposal that i had written some years before so and so i became a science fiction writer and the science fiction proposal had been bouncing around a publisher to publisher without being read I it's kind of a fascinating saga. But i was probably too long for this interview But certainly explains how publishers can screw up repeatedly and landed at tour books and the editor at that point jim bain and there are only three people in the office there was time dougherty who was the publisher jim in the editor and then those misses dorothy who ran the was the accounting department And now tories. The largest science fiction publisher. That doesn't run like that anymore. But jim bane read the proposal i bought it and it and although it had been on the markets or two or three years it actually sold to the first editor who read it. How did it not get rid at the other places that it had been Well there was a lot of mergers going on in publishing as there is now And so you say it. I don't call the exact sequence but you know it was sent to eight and susan. Allison who was the editor at ace left ace to go to berkeley. And until she was replaced they put buying hold so then it came back and then it was sent to berkeley and the decision house at berkeley and and then berkeley acquired as and suddenly they had too many manuscripts sitting in the office. So another buying hold wet. And then it went to david hartwell at times scape and it was lost in the mail room for about six months and by the time that was discovered they had put a buying hold on and and so it just kept bouncing off of these things till it actually went to an editor who still had a publishing schedule to fill up. That must've been satisfying when it finally sold rate really relieved because i was beginning to look in the help wanted section of the paper so that i could make my rent and suddenly although it has to be said that the science fiction sold for a lot less money than the historical fiction here so i was It took me a few years before. I i could reach my former miserable standard of living from from where i was merely tour instead wretched poverty. Yeah i can

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"alan gardner" Discussed on The Worldshapers

The Worldshapers

03:15 min | 7 months ago

"alan gardner" Discussed on The Worldshapers

"Welcome to another episode of the world shapers. The podcast right talked to other science fiction fantasy authors about the creative process. My name is edward willett. I'm your host dia myself and author of science fiction and fantasy. My most recent book from major publisher is the movement world which came out from dob books in september. The paperback will be out mass market. Paperback will be out in august. It's book three in my world. Shaper series and i hope to be writing book for soon Although that won't be published by dob. I still plan to write it and i've also got a couple of books for my own publishing company. Shot oppressor pretty new. There's a epic. Why a fantasy novel cold blue fire. Which i wrote a under my suit an ec- blake or attached my suit into it anyway. There's a space opera do all g paragon rising rate. No and falcons egg which are out now and something. That's kind of fun He might want to check. Out is a time travelling version of myself from nineteen eighty-four when i was in my twenties popped forward and published assignment avalon This was a science fiction adventure. I wrote back. Then when i was better known as eddie well let's so I've published it as he will have given it a bit of a spit and polish. But it's not too different from what i originally wrote back in nineteen eighty-four and it's on amazon exclusively at the moment as an e book. If you wanna check that out simon avalon however my main thing that's going on right now is i am kickstarting an anthology. This'll be the second time i've done this last year. I successfully kick started shapers of worlds which you might guests of from the titled is related to this podcast and indeed. It was short fiction and science fiction fantasy from guests from the first year of the podcast. There were eighteen stories all nine original stories. nine reprints was very successfully get started And all the time. I was doing that. I thought you know if this works. I should do it again and sure enough here. We are The kickstarter for shapers of world's volume two is now live. And it's going to be bigger bigger than last year's anthology because more authors have agreed to take part so if this one funds it is going to feature original fiction from kelley armstrong marie brennan. Helen deo can disdain. Dorsey lisa foils susan forrest. James alan gardner. Matthew hughes heli kennedy successor. Adrian lay craft. Iron ayman garth nix. Tim pratt edwards. Obvio- brian thomas schmidt journeys all and me plus reprints from jeffrey a carver..

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"alan gardner" Discussed on DISGRACELAND

DISGRACELAND

02:51 min | 1 year ago

"alan gardner" Discussed on DISGRACELAND

"Joe Display legitimate grief and of course confidence. Travis's death tore them up good in abroad. Shit ton of publicity good and bad down on Joe Jeff and the zoo privately. Joe is a mess alone at night with the remnants of trauma the constant pick of his stress rattling anxiety the home of craigslist as always leading his room from his computer screen. The television dead quiet just like his confidence. Joe Lashed out. He pulled the revolver from his side. The one he kept on him at all times took game at his television. Blew it away then. He took the couch across from and fired a bullet through it as well. Finally he did would seem like an inevitability he puts the barrel of the gun to his own head and pulled the trigger the pistol malfunctioned and Joe. Exotic escaped death by his own hand. Carol Baskin would not be so lucky not of Joe at anything to do about it. She was bleeding him. It had to end. She was living embodiment of an existential threat to his way of life. She had to die and Joe knew just how to do it. He was confident that not only could he get rid of Carol but if he was smart he could solve another problem as well. Get rid of that world. Class Prick Alan Gardner in the process and killed two birds with one crossbow. That was the plan anyway. The planning cooked up with Allen traveling halfway across the country from Oklahoma Tampa Florida with a gun for Allen for an ex con was too risky so crossbows decided upon Allah would seek out carols property with crossbow while she was out for regular bike. Ride shooter with no Allen. Had A better idea. He was into the knife smaller easier to carrying concealed. He'd sneak onto Carroll's property. Wait for her in the bushes. Jump out attack and cut her off for five thousand dollars but Allen was in it for more than the money. She hated Joe and he knew that if he did this for he went on him forever. Allen knew already that he was going to hell for since he needed to make the most of this world. He told a friend. And Confidante of his Chaffetz James Garretson. Who is in on the plan to kill? Carol. If anybody rats me out and I get popped everybody that they love. I'll have them burnt alive every fucking single person and I mean that from the bottom of my heart they will be burnt. The fuck alive. Joe Promised Our in the full five K. when the job was complete and gave him a three grand advance Allen Gutting. This car headed for Florida quickly. Blew all the money on strippers booze and jocks..

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"alan gardner" Discussed on Agape Baptist Church | Scottsboro, Alabama

Agape Baptist Church | Scottsboro, Alabama

13:27 min | 1 year ago

"alan gardner" Discussed on Agape Baptist Church | Scottsboro, Alabama

"Whatever you spend it on engage during these days. I haven't looked at that obvious time. But these see how that applies to John Three Sixteen in Rome chapter five or say is that the the sending of Jesus for you and for me was a declaration of the depth of God's perfect love for us while we were Yet enemies of God. How awesome is a savior that would evolve his enemies enough to give that which is most precious to him? That's the that's the love of God that Jesus comes as a testimony of us. This is why Jesus came. Jesus you just said I came to seek and to save what was lost. And the result of Jesus's coming the result of our faith and his finished work will get John Chapter Ten verse thirty. He says I and the father are one. And therefore when you place your faith in Jesus then you are united to your Creator and that's the only place that you can find peace and rest you say. This union defines everything about life. And the good news is is that this union endures. It endures even even though you walk through the Valley of the shadow of death. You have no reason to fear why why. Because he's with you has rod has staff they comfort you again in Matthew Chapter Twenty Eight Verse Twenty Jesus himself says he says behold I am with you always. He's not leaving you in fact look at look at I I twenty nine in John Chapter Ten actually go back up to twenty. He started twenty seven. Okay this is my sheep. Hear my voice and yeah I know them they follow me. I give them eternal and they will never perish and no one will snatch them out of my hand. If you're struggling the tunnel security highlight light asterisk bracket whatever you need to this passage go meditate on it because we got what he says. Twenty nine my father who has given them to me is greater than all that includes you and no one is able to snatch them out of the fathers hand. I and the father are one. Why can't you lose your salvation? Because you didn't learn it in the first place you did. And you're not greater than God himself so you've got a sealed you and the testimony the spirit of God within you is is is is is verifying that he sealed you then. Guess what doesn't matter how great your doubts are how great your fears are. The promises of God are greater than your doubts and your fears and so therefore Jesus being the Good Shepherd when you looked to him when you understand this relationship that he's called us to you realize that as he's laid his life down for you and you put your faith in that then guess what it's finished. The work for your salvation is finished. He said is that really apply to the Valley of the shadow of death. It absolutely does does an eighteen fifty one the ship of Richard Williams who is a young physician and a methodist lay preacher and another other preacher named Alan Gardner they went as missionaries to tear Adele. pfleger which is literally at the southernmost tip of South America and as they went there in eighteen fifty one their ship was forced forced to winter a cold and bitter bay which I'm wondering if that's what Spanish harbor is and the supply vessel that was supposed to bring them all they needed. It never arrived everyone on board. The ship ship died so this is not a health wealth story. This is a testimony to you that when you face your Tiara. Del Fuego cold ship experience as a bloodbath believer in Jesus Christ this is your testimony. Everyone on board died of cold and starvation remember that word starvation even as they were suffering on Good Friday April eighteenth eighteen. I'm fifty one. Williams wrote in his journal poor and weak though we are our abode is a very Bethel to our souls that means this cold ship. That's killing me. It is a Bethel beth-el or does that mean house of God. This cold ship that is my tomb at this. Point is the House of God to me. Why because the God we've come to know is he's here then on Wednesday may seventh? He wrote should anything prevent my ever adding to this journal. Let all my beloved ones at home rest assured that I was happy beyond description and when I wrote these lines and would not have changed situations with any man living that blows my mind. y'All it absolutely blows my mind that somebody who knows they're dying there. They know that they are starving. They know that the supply ship is not coming for them. Even though they embarked out to to set set set their sights on an unreached people group to testify of the glory of the Kingdom of God to these people declared declare the Gospel to them that even though they know that that help is not coming that God was with them even as they walk through the Valley of the shadow of death and in to the arms of death itself it was actually the arms of God their father in Jesus Good Shepherd I could I could tell you more stories about this but suffice it to say for now you need to know got us faithful his faithful when your last moment is coming he's faithful. He will never leave you or forsake sake. You in fact I think in those moments you can feel the arms of Jesus around you and and like I said I can tell you story after story of this. But you need to know that the good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep and all that that entails the relationship is secure but another thing about the good shepherd is the good shepherd knows has sheep. The Good Shepherd knows his sheep. So what we're GonNa do actually these versus let's work backward from verse sixteen versus saying look at what Jesus says he said I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also and they will listen to my voice so there will be one flock one shepherd why is racism against scripture is. Because Jesus didn't come for one group of people haven't come from one skin color one such economic class income for one specific people group that speak a specific language. Jesus here here obliterates all the thought processes of those who had claimed that any race of people is greater than another race of people because there's only one race of people and that is the human race many different ethnicities and Jesus himself tells us that he is gathering a people gathering a flock if you will but remember the illustration from last week the sheep pen represented Israel. Oriole didn't it. The sheep pen was Israel and Jesus was calling his sheep out of Israel. And so what happens here is Jesus says hey AH got other sheep who are not this fold. They're not in the sheep pin and they're the same when they hear my voice they'll come out of those false worldviews. They'll oh come out of those false religions they will come and they will follow me. That's why Jesus is the centerpiece of all true religion. In fact most colts this is. This is the starting point of where they lose the Gospel. Is they change range. Jesus out even venture to say that. It's not just colts struggle with that. I think I think I think we as believers always have to be on guard because we had this inner propensity to always be changing the word of God doubting like letting doubts influence what we believe about who new Jesus is let us never change. Jesus let us always submit to what Jesus says about lot himself and what the pages of scripture tell us about Jesus and we know that Jesus is gathering a multitude from every tribe Untung and nation revelation chapter seven verse. Nine tells us that you see. That's this call to believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ is founded upon the promise that all the sheep will hear the voice of the shepherd and follow him and last week. We introduced this little jar. Ardi you up here. Which I'm I'm so? Grateful has some pebbles in it with some initials written on it where people have shared the Gospel with other folks over this past week week and we're shooting for five hundred Gospel conversations this year you say. What's The Gospel Conversation? That's basically the step beyond knowing somebody and actually engaging them about their spiritual condition pointing them to Jesus. It's not how many people you've led to. Christ it's not how how many people you've told about a gop a on the other side of the spectrum. It's it's it's simply this. It's in your conversation with this this individual or group of individuals. Have you inquired about their spiritual condition if ever relationship with Jesus Christ and then told them about how to enter in that relationship by faith shared your own. Maybe maybe maybe you so I don't I don't really know how. Just tell me a story. Tell them how Jesus saved you. You put your faith in him that Jesus came and met you where you were are in your sin. He he died for you even though you're an enemy of his and that now he's sealed you you don't have to say all those words literally like and this is. Why thank you guys last year? Rights your testimony out and let's have a conversation about it and I want to. I'm going to help you develop your story because people need to hear it because once again like we said last week and this past Wednesday the Gospel is only good news if it gets there in time and if you share your story with these people and you point them to Jesus Jesus then as an act of worship and surrender to the Lord of the harvest go put their initials on one of those little pebbles. Put it in that bucket. That's empty right beside Assad it and as this year goes on we're GONNA fill that jar up with people that were pointing to Jesus. That's a gospel conversation. I am pointing them to the savior saying his name. y'All you wouldn't believe there are people in Scots for who've never heard the name of Jesus before Ponant of Jesus folks let let us rally together for this costs. What would you embark upon? Ah I'll I'll take it to a totally karnal. I'm absolutely utterly against a state run lottery. Okay and that's another another our message for another day but I'm absolutely against it but if you ask me Ryan the lottery it was just one one of your church members and they wanNA know if they can give that money to the church. I'd say that has been the money that that money's been enhancing the devil long enough you know so so yeah we'll we'll take that right but but you came to me and you said you said I knew I was GONNA win. I maybe you claim Angel from heaven appeared and told you you were going to win the lottery and that's why you play the lottery. Okay what would you do. What would you do if you knew that it wouldn't fail? What would you embark upon? If if you knew it wasn't going to fail if you knew it was a sure thing I mean. We're creatures of faith so if you had some kind of revelation that that that it was gonNA succeed. Whatever you embarked Obama's GonNa succeed? It was going to happen. It was was gonNA come through. It was gonNA come through your way you do anything right..

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"alan gardner" Discussed on The Worldshapers

The Worldshapers

02:15 min | 2 years ago

"alan gardner" Discussed on The Worldshapers

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"alan gardner" Discussed on The Worldshapers

The Worldshapers

10:38 min | 2 years ago

"alan gardner" Discussed on The Worldshapers

"I'm aware of it but that doesn't mean I catch all the time. The other thing is the other thing I you. You probably have this experience to the the best way to find things that you overlooked is to read your workout mild in front of an audience after it's been published. Yeah I Azadliq. Smith has a quote something to the effect of the best time to rewrite. Your stuff is two years after it's been published ten minutes before you read it at a literary festival. Yeah that's about right about ten minutes so I want to get to the the big philosophical questions. Sure I always do that with my voice at this point the big question with multiple parts. But why do you right. Why did you all right this stuff? And why do you think any of us to truly three questions. It's kind of one. Oh well just like almost every the other writer I I write because I can't not right. I- these days. I get the boring and right and I right to understand what's in my head and to because I like writing stories Why do I write something in particular Because something about the idea has Got Its claws in me And the only way to you get free of it is to write it in writing well so this Again the haunted founded how story that I'm thinking of was an idea I had probably two and a half years ago and I had no idea why I wanted to write a haunted house story. And it's taken me two years to crystallize What I want to say in the book? Y I'm writing it. I think Writers as you know Sit alone for hours at a time and What we write today? will not Be Seen in the world for a long long time It's you know it takes me at least a year to write a novel Often more and after it's it's written it'll take at least another year before it gets out for anyone to before it gets published And and So you really have to be obsessed and the moment to write There has to be some sort of reward or compulsion Too right because you don't get the fame and fortune. If ever. I'm still waiting for that. Yeah yeah well. In some sense we all right to impress someone Paul. Simon said When someone asked asked why he wrote songs or songs to impress girls and there is that aspect to kiss girl so so yeah yeah I certainly started writing to you know? Let's impress women But it's a long time before that happens and I mean a long time between sitting adding down to write sentences today and before anyone is impressed by it and I am not a You know in making a gazillion dollars or having a gazillion raiders and I'd love to So you just kind of get the rewards earned every now and then you have a character suddenly come to life light Geico Kim Revealing that She's Queer and and the idea that you every once in in a while you feel as if you were telling a truth that is out there as opposed to stuff that you just pulling out of your head And it's it's really cool when that happens. Well and the podcast is called the world shapers Probably a bit grand talk about shaping the world through fiction. And what do you hope. You're you're writing for the readers pubic because you can certainly influence individuals as Richard Your story well for all those explosions I wanted to make people laugh and good thank you and To have the fun that I find in superheroes I started reading being A Superhero comics when I was just a kid. I I talked about this when words. Collide that My great uncle would buy me one comic book a week What I was seven years old and I bought comic books and I bought Superhero Comic Books and I do do not know anymore any of the people that I knew when I was seven other than my family and I still know Batman I still no spiderman. I still all those characters that I knew back then I keep up with them. I don't I don't know the people anymore but I I know the characters and So to be able to write superheroes not alas marvel in DC superheroes although if anybody marvel DC or listening I'm there I'll hire me but to be able to right superheroes and just have fun with I hope that I could pass on the delight That I get from superheroes I other people to and to share in the joy And for other books. It's almost always the same that I get delight from Various types of stories And and so I want to be part of that conversation. Be Part of the of the Ifan nor the delight toward the the concern or the thrills of the horrors or whatever. It's such a delight to be a writer and to be part of the conversation. That's actually what I always say. Is that that I started writing because I loved the stories that I was experiencing so much I wanted to be able to create stories that other people would enjoy as much as I enjoyed the ones. I've good reading so it's probably a very common thing with. Writers look fantastic affected. I think many people get their starts starts fantastic. If not actual these days you can actually put it in front of public. But even if you don't you a a Rachel stories and show it to your friends and saw and a that's because whatever you're doing fantastic of Touched something in you and you want to be in that world you WanNa have a piece of it too and you mentioned what you're working on but the hottest house muffled anything else that you're working on right now I I'm doing a reimagining actioning of Sleeping Beauty Where nobody is stupid? It's kind of fun to right a fairy tale with sensible people There's a lot of reimagined fairy tales Z. stays Naomi. Novick immediately comes to mind but other people have been doing it too. And it's it's fun to do right Fairy Tales which have that feel of Dat mythological gap folkloric depth but bring on insensibility to them that there are just some strange things that happen in fairy tales. What's that are hard to believe and trying to justify the or not is fun? And where can people find you online I am most of my stuff is on twitter at James. A guard G. A. R. D.. I do twitter every day. I also have James. Alan Gardner Dot Com which I Blog at occasionally those are the best places places. I do have a facebook page which I almost never do anything with well and I think that's about the end of our time. So thanks so much for being a guest on the world shapers. It was great talking to you. Edward thanks for having me. Thanks again to Jamestown and Gardner for that. That was a great conversation. I hope conjoined it as much as I did.

"alan gardner" Discussed on The Worldshapers

The Worldshapers

18:10 min | 2 years ago

"alan gardner" Discussed on The Worldshapers

"Characters are lost or or or I'm lost because I don't know what happens next. There's going to be some pressure to deal with the situation. But ah I think Doble is about An overt exterior situation. But it also has to be about a character facing some sort of a crisis in their life so constantly When I developed things I'm thinking okay? What is this going to put the character through? What is the next thing? How is how are the screws? Going to tighten on the character. Not just just in terms of the urgency the external situation but the a development of the internal situation too. So how do you find those characters. How do you decide what your characters are going to be? I mean cam is in her own words. I believe a short Queer Asian kid which you know is it's not you so that's right. How did you decide the really So the first time I I the first draft Kim was a Asian But Not Queer and She the situation so For people who have read the book one of the first thing she does is She comes across an old flame of hers someone. She knew In high school really her first serious boyfriend Fred Who has become a dark claim Who is always a rich kid who knew he was going to be dark? Mark Ling As as he was old enough to take the to be transformed and That relationship went bad and basically uh the Kim was a bland character Who didn't have a whole lot of personality and One thing I often do when I'm trying to get a handle on characters especially eh up trying to get a handle on. Personality is sit down and Improv stuff in their tone of voice to sit at the typewriter and Or the computer. Of course these days and a writer diatribe from them as fast as I can and see what just POPs out so this is Mitchell's messy method again just sitting down and blasted out and see what pops out and Kim squareness Came from that I was Blasting away hey Basically a monologue and it just completely took me by surprise when she Started talking about No I'm not as as binary as you think. Sort of thing and There were several days there when Oche am I going to actually write on character. You know. straight middle aged white guy writing a a queer Pay Young University Age Asian Did I have the nerve to do that. And how. How much homework would I have to do? In order to not be That guy a a rating Someone who I had no right to write But that's what was that was the voice that came to me and eventually I said Yeah. Okay I've got to go with this brush. Well she's a she's a very interesting voice. Yeah Yeah and Once I had that handle on the character a whole lot of things a came out and the character came alive and Some of the situations that were dead on the page in the first draft Took on a whole different character. Sure and really much more interesting resonance Than they had been in the first. I draft did you do something similar with your other main characters. Yeah so Nicklaus Had the same A process I did you know Soliloquy from his point of view uh-huh and Not so much with the Other with the other three superheroes Because I knew there were going to be coming along later of when I did. The jewel spoke. which is the The They promised beat the gun wasn't loaded the sequel to all those explosions I did do Soliloquies from her point of view and A for the future books I will be doing the same thing. It's just a really useful way way to unlock What in divisions have been keeping holding me back from a Doing going as far as I need to for character. Once you've developed the character you have an idea for the setup out much of an outline or planning to do a very detailed are you. Are you a plotter. That's the other I'm mostly a passer her but Especially because I'm writing Superhero things. I want there to be some great set. Pieces so I Plan for Interesting places where a Big Superhero action can take place so it had All those explosions there. There are several big Superhero versus Monster Action. Things and I figured out where there we're we're going to take place sort of some context for why they were happening at an overarching At plot for them So in all those explosions Well Waterloo has a number of tourist attractions. And I want over the course of the series to destroy them wall. So in the first book I trashed the Waterloo bark at which the Jacobs market which is a big farmers market market there in the second one Trash a the a popular club the Transylvania club which is a name like that is asking to be associated with monsters and the third one waterloo has a clay and glass gallery. The National Clayton Glasgow. I gotTa have a fight there and claimed glasses right next to the perimeter institute which is a Institute of Theoretical Physics Kind of a worldclass Physics Research Center So trashing both the clear glass and perimeter is Kinda. Give me what I'm GonNa Trash the final book. But we'll see there is some funded up my the last book in my young adult series series shards of Excalibur the final big climatic battle takes place that Provincial Park called canning manner I do a pretty good job on it too two. Yeah if you're going to take place if you're going to have your story take place in a real location. Then let's make use of the location and A especially with you know if you're going to have superheroes there is going to to be a large set of smoking rob. What remember Jim Butcher Book? I don't remember which one it wasn't. The Dresden Files Ellsworth sued the Toronto Source Super Back I just loved that episode. Yeah I don't remember which will it was so You talked a little bit about your actual writing process three hours in the morning and work on other things in the afternoon. I just work at home do you. Are you a go out to coffee shop guide. You don't do it longhand or anything like that. I do some things in Longhand if if a if a particular scene is is not working. Out Well I go longhand and righted out. I'm working right now on haunted house novel and This morning I spent writing Really the first scene of a particular character because I really wanted to get slowdown and and cover the bases at Really get the character's voice Down on the page age so when I want to if Writing fast is useful but writing. Slow is also useful useful so speaking of that. How long are you a fast writer or so average things together? I'm not super fast. I can I usually do about a thousand words. A day So you know some people do a lot more than that Several thousand words today. I've done that but usually a thousand is good And that's for my warning stuff in the afternoon I would do maybe the same amount again. Depending on weather in writing. New stuff or rising steph. When you get to the end you have a draft? Have you done sort of rolling revision. So it's pretty clean at that point or do you go back and do a complete rewrite. Or how does that work for you. I do some rolling revisions but usually I have have to go back and do several more draft so as I say I mostly Pancer For the first draft which means that there's rough around the edges stuff So the haunted house dog which is the one I'm thinking of The rough draft Ending ending was really Yeah Okay I'M GONNA keep writing it but I'm going to keep any of it The second draft craft is pretty good. I like the The action of the ending the Except that the precipitating incident. So there's something that makes all hell break loose And I like the hell breaks loose but I'm not so crazy about what actually kicks things off so I'm going going to At least half to rewrite that again which will probably necessitate a few other changes. So I'm Refining things as I go along and I hope it's no more than three drafts. But that's about typical for what I'm doing. You've been published by various publishers. Which means you worked with a lot of different? Editors what what typically comes back to you from editors to to work on I I don't get a whole lot of of structural stuff. It's this boasts lately 'cause medic or you know I didn't understand this or this chapter slow or something like that so I don't get get a once or twice I've had People a editor say no. This ending just doesn't work but mostly it's I didn't understand their motivation for doing this. Or A to Polish up this section again so I I'm pretty lucky in I want in a story to be as clean as possible before I send it to my agent and she Makes a few comments but not many and and then she sends it off So I like things a pretty good to go before I send them out which means I have to Spend a fair likes of time I I don't send out anything that I don't think is pretty good already now. You do some editing for other people. Do you find that working on other People's manuscript helps you when it comes time to look at your own. Oh sure I ached. It's much easier to see problems on other people. Have them but I know I have the same thing so you know we all have words that we overuse really cry very three all that and as I'm reading somebody else's stuff I have a list of these words that I Overuse and redick somebody else's stuff. I you know Oh yeah. There's one of mine that I should pay attention to to speaking of which the Braille little thing From a Brandon Sanderson and that I recently heard about in their writing excuses. PODCAST is to your list of Words that you overuse or You know suddenly. There's another one that tha is real easy to use too much just to a global. Replace off on the word with brackets around at square brackets and that makes stand out So what you're reading the book Reading the manuscript got you see these things and you could say. Do I really need that. Really draws your attention to the words that you overuse and a makes you think about the again I really love that technique and Use it now. That's that's a good one. I think I'll have to adopt that too. Yeah Yeah it's just Draws your attention to something so sometimes very is a perfectly good word to use a lot of times The pros is stronger. By crossing it out by deleting I find that my characters tend to use animal noises too much dialogue growl and snarl things and quite void dive because his is something that has no simple and senate generally speaking I a I only let myself use Said told replied shouted Whispered whispered maybe muttered or two or asked but I do try to avoid the the the animal noises and so on yeah..

"alan gardner" Discussed on The Worldshapers

The Worldshapers

15:10 min | 2 years ago

"alan gardner" Discussed on The Worldshapers

"Oh yes the reason I ask is because W O Mitchell is famously from wave Bruins scatcherd which I grew up and I I got to meet him once when he came to doing a reading for his book. Roses are difficult. Here I think was when I was at the newspaper down. He's an interesting guy. So yeah he he's. He's a fine guy and of course great rock on tour or was So he was great having in classes and we all had a I think fifteen minute session with all of the writers in residence. It was a you know in some percents similar to clarify in that Writers were brought in for. I think for five days and each of of the students had a chance to show the writers their stuff and get some feedback on it. The other thing I like to mention about Mitchell is When I did see him in waiver and there was a woman there named Sadie Bauer men? who was the first White baby to be bored in Auburn to and she'd been schoolteacher church and she got after him she must have been an eighty by then she got after him for using bad language so riders can relate to pop up out of your pass. That's right I have a few English teachers who have caught up with me over the ears and you know kind of patted me on the back and again some of them have chided me for using bad language. The thing I would have been wavering. Scotch when is that Guy Gary Okay was born at wavered scheduling. So Wayne is a very important place in the tapestry. Well much more for him than me. I wasn't born there. Grew up literature. Yeah exactly well started with short fiction. You wrote that exclusively for a while or did you immediately try to write novels. Or how did that work crew Well I think I wrote a novel back when I was in high school. I got pneumonia the year after I saw the summer after I graduated and it was basically locked in the house for the entire summer And stead some time writing a novel Lake thing Would call it a novel but it was a long piece of fiction so Jack Forget about doing that. I always think that my writing started uh when I was in university car but no I that in the summer when I I had nothing else to do but that was kind of an amusement more than a a yes. I'm going to be a writer. So Sto Dole part of half a million words. That's never going to rewrite that one. That was self indulgent as only high school. School students can be so. When did your first novel Come along my so I wrote it. I wrote several novels before I actually published something so I was in Clarion. Uh in eighty nine and Was Writing Short stories in the started. A novel Sometime after that And I think there were two novels. That didn't go anywhere. Thank Heavens they never saw the light of day before I wrote Expendable which was published in ninety seven and so now we're up to how many novels ten eleven. I guess it's eleven now. Are you still writing a lot of short fiction take off and on. I can write a novels for two or three hours a day. At least the first early drafts of novels and that is so I write in the morning and in the afternoon I want to write something different. Different so I sometimes writes Short fiction sometimes Right the Gaining material that you You mentioned my biography Sometimes I do freelance editing jobs for various people so afternoons afternoons. I have several hours when I do something. Besides the novel in progress and short stories one one of the things I do then okay. Well that's kind of getting us into the process part of this of the podcast which is going to focus on neck. So let's move on to that so we're going to focus on all those explosions were someone else's fault just as an example of your creative process and see how that ties in with the way you write everything but before Oy do that I have not finished the book Very much enjoying it. It's a lot so perhaps you can give a synopsis for those who have not read it without Giving away anything that I haven't read yet. Okay well the the setup is That in the early nineteen eighties eighties Vampires where we'll demons etc.. Come out of the closet and Basically say why have we been keeping ourselves secret secret. We have a salable asset here you ought to be one of us. Pay Us ten million dollars in will make you a vampire will redeem uh-huh and within twenty years old the movers and shakers or the wealthy the-they influential people are basically Dr claims so and then in the year two thousand isn't suddenly superheroes start appearing. And so you've got this world where the rich one percent are essentially monsters and the ninety nine percent are protected by the people who were stupid enough to touch as the glowing media or or fall into that of weird chemicals. Or we're just you know born as mutants and So the background sat up is the dark one percent versus the super ninety nine percent Or the the super who represent the ninety nine percents will protect them And then the story follows Four for science students at the University of Waterloo who get into a weird lab accident and gained superpowers and Become involved In the shenanigans that Were responsible support for the lab accident and a super villain is part of it. All and a ball of a dark lanes who are up to no good and the whole thing takes place in something like nine hours on the night of the winter solstice and say humorous novel. Yes it is. It's it's done for laughs. A It could the setup that could get very dire with horrible people running the world but I like Playing it for laughs and The four characters Who get superpowers are all funny in their various ways? The first book is about a Kim. Kim Who is JOLLITY student Who queer non binary are- anyway Who has arrived view of the world? The second centers on a Jewel's who is a wonderful in cautious brash person and the plan is four novels. One on each of the superheroes Having them go through their A big life change. I think that a novel should be about a huge moment in a a characters life and Each of the four heroes. I mean hey you've just become super what does that do to you and For each of them it kind of brings to the fore Something something that they haven't dealt with baggage that they have adult with and they're each going to be forced to confront the the stuff that they've been ignoring for a much of their life Their end deal with their issues one way or another. So so what was the seed for this. And how does that tie into the way that stories appear for you in general. I'm trying to avoid saying where do you get your ideas. But that's being I you know I don't the seed was The idea of superheroes versus a dark maclaine type things and the one percent versus the ninety nine percents and which was relevant point? At the time I started writing this you know I. It was The occupy movement had been a AH taking place. I mean that's where I get one percent versus nine nine percent and it was a time when the the politics of the whole thing was Kind of in your face And I had also also done a lot of Role play in a various context so if people are familiar with the White Wolf Games which later became onyx path or were on expense started writing for the same Game Lines you could be vampire or Werewolf or some other type of creature the night and that was one set of roleplaying that I had done but I'd also done a lot of superhero roleplaying putting them together. As far as I know had never been done before But was a really cool idea that I as soon as I had the idea. I Google like mad to see if there was anything like this out. There and there wasn't Urban fantasy was big at that point Superhero fiction was is just starting to become more prevalent One of the things that interests me is that SCIPIO comics have been around for eighty years. But superheroes in prose fiction Really really hadn't been done a lot before say fifty years ago There were few novelization of Superhero movies. But until The Fan Fiction for sure and the Marble Superhero movies. This came out. There hadn't been a lot of superheroes in prose fiction but that kind of open duffin. Now there's a whole ton of there is an interesting juxtaposition. Certainly I've never encountered the two things put together like that. So it's very interesting. I hadn't seen it before I still haven't seen it before so it's kind of fun to be able to play with that without too much competition. Now that's how this came about. Is that fairly early. Typical of your story generation is basically just ideas bubble up and bounce into each other. I think I go back to what I said about Stories being a about some huge pivotal moment in a characters life life so whatever the seed for a story is The next thing I want to know is what character is going to experience The setup and What sort of transition transition are they going to go through So often I think of some dramatic situation Some sort of ticking bomb that is going to cause trouble in some setting but then immediately I say okay. What character is going to face this problem? And what is it going to put them in when I was You you told me ahead of time that we were going to be talking about all those explosions and I went back through my notes. Yeah and on the book as I was developing at ended its constantly What problem is this going to cause the characters at? What sort of transitions are they going to go through? Because of the very next question is what does your planning process. Look like when she had this idea. It sounds. It's like the characters come perhaps even before you have the plot worked-out is absolutely So it's useful to have of some sort of background problem that is going to force the characters to act a ticking bomb so that even if the.

"alan gardner" Discussed on The Worldshapers

The Worldshapers

15:41 min | 2 years ago

"alan gardner" Discussed on The Worldshapers

"Welcome to the world shapers switch. I can now say as of just a couple of weeks ago. At this year's Cannes Khan is is an Aurora award winning podcast featuring conversations with science fiction and fantasy authors about the creative process I was very pleased that the wheelchairs there's one the Aurora award this year for best fan related work and the Aurora awards which you can check out at Prix Aurora awards DOT CA. That's P. R. I. X. They you are are Awa. RDS Dot ca are the fan Nominated and voted on awards in the science fiction. Fantasy field in in Canada. Bit like the hugos are in the United States. So that's very exciting that this podcast one a very nice very nice trophy at to Cancun this year I should also mention that the world shapers is a member of these scheduling podcast network which is supported by can excess credit union. When I started this podcast because I'm also a writer of science fiction and fantasy and Actually my most recent book is called Master of the world. It's my tenth novel for New York Style. Books just came out. In September it is booked to in a series called the world. shapers about a A woman discovers that she's actually one of these world-shapers that the world she thought was the only world. There was one that she had actually shaped in this vast labyrinth of of shaped worlds. And she is now moving moving from world to world and trying to get the knowledge of the world's and take it to grab the mysterious woman who has placed all the shapers into the labyrinth Because has labyrinth is under attack from the adversary and the only way to protect all these worlds if she can gather their knowledge and and get it to share in the first book world-shapers she was in her world. which as I said is very much like ours with a few differences in the second book? Master of the world it takes place in Jules Verne inspired world so so there are lots of submarines floating islands and and strange firing devices and things like that very steam punky and I had a great deal of fun writing it and and the third book which is called the Moonlit World I'm writing now and it It features well I working title in my head for a long time was werewolves and Vampires in peasants. Oh my so that tells you a little bit of something about What that's all about So I hope you'll check those out and I hope you will also check out a all previous episodes of the world shapers. This is episode thirty eight now. And we're GONNA get started with it talking to James. Alan Gardner James Gardner. Got His bachelor's and master's in math with a thesis on black holes than immediately began writing science fiction instead. He has published ten novels and numerous short stories. Stories including finalists for the Nebula and Hugo and winners for the Aurora the Asimov's Reader's choice award and the Theodore Sturgeon Memorial award. His most recent novels are all those explosions where someone else's fault. which is the one? We'll focus on today for spokane the dark and spark series and they promised me the gun wasn't loaded which would be the second book both both from tour in his spare time. He plays a lot of tabletop role playing games and has recently begun writing material for onyx pads cy on line in his spare time he teaches Kung Fu six-year-olds. Welcome to the world shapers James. Thanks glad to be here. I guess we've kind of known each other for a long time. But we don't encounter each other very often but we did see each other at when worlds collide which is something when words collided always comes out as when worlds collide. Yeah Yeah Yeah it's a it's a great idea and a great title And it was a great car. This year was the first time you've been yes. It's close to me so I'm there. I'm there most years so it gets. It gets plugged a lot on the world shapers because I've asked a number of writers to be on after I saw them windwards collide. So that's I can make it next year. I certainly will it. I had a great time there and I guess this is a good place to mention to those interested that the website for that is win. Words Clyde Dot Org It does feel up every year. So if you're interested in going to wouldn't hurt to to sign up for next year right now now. Let's talk about that. Let's talk about you. I always start by taking guests back into the mists of time and for you and diets. It's roughly the same amount of mists to find out First of all when you became interested in writing when you became interested in writing science fiction. I've seen from other interviews that that you started writing pretty early. Yes My I still have some of the things that I wrote. When I was like five live? They are hiding in my parents house and I hope they will never see the light of day. The first thing I I can remember writing. What would be called fantastic these days which was in my time of based on man from uncle which she tells how old I was and Me and my friends were spies that standard thing that what rights. Lynn Lynnwood is. I guess I was twelve at the time and Kept writing some of that for a while. I wrote to several plays when nine high school but I really got serious. In my first year of university I was in coop at the university due Waterloo at their coop program so four months in school than four months in work placement and I was working for war. IBM is in Toronto where I knew no one and Didn't have a whole lot of money but writing was cheap so for four months in my on my work term in Toronto. I amused myself by writing science fiction fiction and none of that was salable but bit by bit. I got better well. I think it's come up a few times on here with different. The authors the famous saying I I always attributed it to Stephen King that you had to write half a million words of unpublishable stuff before you wrote anything publishable but then somebody recently who met Array Bradberry said that he is to say eight hundred thousand words a whole bunch of junk before you get down onto the good stuff underneath. That's what it boils down to so you. You got your bachelor's and master's in math but you never actually used that she went straight into writing or what happened after you graduated I. I went for two years after I got my masters I try to Write something significant. I was working on a novel. I still liked the idea for the novel. Might a every now and then I think is it time to write that Maybe probably not yet But talk for two years. I tried to Make living Writing while tutoring calculus that was my income and at the same time I was also writing for a musical comedy revue at the university and and someone who was associated with that show Put me in contact with a group In the computer science department who wanted someone to write computer manuals for them So I got job. Halftime writing computer manuals and that kept me in money for long enough for me to start selling telling stories and things. Well it's It's interesting because when I decided to be a fulltime writer. One of the things that got me going was there was a market could for general computer books at the time and so people ask me what my first book is and I always say well. My first book was actually using Microsoft publisher for Windows Ninety Five and my second book was the sequel using Microsoft publisher for Windows. Ninety seven I I have a few UNIX books books out there that you know there on the shelf but Not Proud of well. I was never that technical. But at the time there was actually market at the level of to open a file. Click file that. I was writing at and I was interested to that she wrote plays plays and This musical right because that's another side of what I do. I'm I'm an actor and singer and performer. I've done I've written in place as well and I'd like to ask the writers who have done that sort of thing. If you find that your theater background helps in the writing of fiction for me it feels that it does. But I'm always interested to see if others have the same experience immensely So I did First of all this on stage musical comedy thing and then a group of us Who helped write for that started in writing a straight up plays and radio dramas and Sometime in there I got into who Improv and took a number of Improv classes. And all those things go together into theater it gives you immediate feedback on whether you're writing works or not by the amount you cringe when you hear how your lies is being said. You learn bid on foolproof dialogue and sickly Improv. Improv gives you a some good practice in structuring scenes and figuring out how I I actions go together to make plot. I often feel that having directed plays and stuff like that. I feel like I have a a very solid image in my head at all times of where characters are in relationship to each other in space in which the scene is happening when I tutor younger or beginning beginning writers and I'm writer in residence at the Saskatoon Public Library right now. I'm thinking about a bit of that and one thing I I often find Is a kind of. It's like a gray fog in which everything is happening in the earliest certain where everybody isn't relationship each other you get an image of them in one place and the next thing you know. They're looking out the window but they never left the fireplace in your head. I think theater helps with that. Yeah I certainly just plain old. Seeing Choreography helps theater contributes to that a lot And as you say who's wear and what's actually there. The the idea of what is in the room besides The characters is hugely useful When and you're trying to figure out what the characters do in response to Some problem there's almost always something in the room that they can use. If you've invasion the room well enough to actually have stuff there. And if you planted in the right place in in the story so it doesn't materialize out of thin air. Yes you know whenever you write a story every has to take place someplace. Every time someone goes into a room you pretty much have to describe the room and you want to describe interesting interesting things in the room and just that description first of all trying to come up with something that is interesting staying in the same old same old We'll give you material to use later on in the scene. What you said about Foolproof dialogue is actually something something that Orson Scott Card said when I interviewed him for world-shapers and he's done a lot of theater night he actually had a role in your breaking in. Didn't he because he was at Clarion West when you were there yes. He was the First teacher in my year at Clarion West He gave me a really good feedback on a story that he liked a great deal and that was actually my first published story. He put in a good word for me with the editor of fantasy science. Fiction and So when I sent that story to the editor It's old and that was my first Pro S. F. Sale before you went to Clarion. Had you taken any other formal in writing training between the a summer of. When I got my bachelor's I went to Banff? The Banff Fas a center for fine arts and took a writing. Course I there w o Mitchell was the grandfather of all but it was Allison Roe. was there So Oh you know hanging out with some pretty impressive. People and Got A lot of good feedback on my writing and how to set set up set about writing stories. Hey ask Science fiction fantasy writers about their formal training clearly at clarion science fiction fantasy is is what people are writing but usually another writing programs. It is not and there's sometimes right sometimes it's not a comfortable fit with with what about the program is about. Did you find out or did it. Did you find it helpful. That it wasn't a science fiction focused. Yeah I I don't think I wrote a great deal of Science fiction fiction Content while I was at Banff It was mostly the method What what w Mitchell called Mitchell's messy method was just sitting down and seeing what spontaneously arose as you are at the typewriter and At that point I was writing a lot of memoir tight things as opposed to actual fiction and Finding what inside of me wanted to be written was very useful for that The real trick after that is figuring out how to shape that material into actual stories and once I you got started with that Kind of marrying My own memories with Science fiction was kind. Thank you find it useful. Was Mitchell there when you were there..

"alan gardner" Discussed on Clock Dodgers Podcast - Motivation | Fantasy Football | Comedy  | Pop Culture

Clock Dodgers Podcast - Motivation | Fantasy Football | Comedy | Pop Culture

12:32 min | 2 years ago

"alan gardner" Discussed on Clock Dodgers Podcast - Motivation | Fantasy Football | Comedy | Pop Culture

"We know Wednesday dispute that he has weapons that you know he has safety valves and guys he just trust at any quarterback would love to have and just you know. Throw the ball to them so I feel confident like I don't know if he's GonNa have these kinds of weeks every week like like you said it's very volatile the the way the numbers look as far as how he got them but I I think you could trust Kyle in especially if you're in a super flex you know if you're doing. DFS kind shake things up but am I the only one who chose Carlisle here. Do you guys I trust him overall as a decent quarterback oh I gotta the trust yeah air raid disciple. Yo come on now. I mean I I love it last week eight of the thirty thirty two starting quarterbacks in the NFL came from college arid systems some. I'm jumping on board with anybody who has that that Aaron background and yeah. I mean you know Josh is completely right. You know we'll see touchdown regression. He's not gonNA throw four touchdowns every week. Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah off the exciting stuff is that he's willing to push the ball downfield. He is going to have a ton of weapons at his disposal. I mean the offense is really was being underutilized with Cam and camps limited ability and I think that with Kyle incumbent nerds. It's really opening up what they're able to do and I'm excited to see if this kind of continues I mean we've seen it before where guys could come in and kind. They have a flash in the PAN performance where just is hot for one week and then they kinda level back out and become like a case keenum but that being said that first week was super exciting so I'm excited to see what he can do definitely want him out there to Qb suplex leagues I have man I think he's even viable streamer this week in Alaba Leagues Damn so we both trust them. I Know Josh he felt a little concerned but you trust them still or are you thinking it's to give point that he has good weapons so he may come out and still look solid yeah. I I I. I wouldn't say that I don't trust him. I just don't think that he's GonNa you know he's not GonNa put up twenty four every week and all of the back of four touchdowns touchdowns are my only concern them as fair I. I wouldn't say that I don't trust what what what I what I'm excited about with. All these quarterbacks is that in the past when a quarterback went out on a starting quarterback went out you felt like doom and gloom like there is like saying you're really bad but like for the last few times this has happened like Kyle Alan Gardner Menchu even the rookies Daniel Jones is like they're actually playing pretty well so like it's exciting that like when starting quarterback goes out at least some of these teams it's not over like I don't know I don't feel confident like say. The raiders like Mike Glennon or something but like these young guys are doing well when they're when they're being forced to play so it almost makes you wonder like I don't know man. I feel like some team should really start getting some of these old guys out there like Joe flacco the Fug at ear 'cause he's young. Kids are finding success success man. There's obviously something going on man. You guys all these guys they agree. I make your your Oakland. Raiders should take note of these old guys Derek Eric Card types in submarine his young. I won't live in I won't lie. There's a lot of raider fans right now calling for Derek said man. They're not happy happy. We'll see but I'm excited about all these nice. You know all these young quarterbacks even if they're flash in whatever you WANNA call it. They're doing something and it's exciting and it's fun and it you. You know it's a lot better than just doom and gloom. As soon as you're starting quarterback goes out so it's fun to see how it's working out the next guy you mentioned him earlier. In our premature victory laps. Toni Ballard had a huge game in Dallas Adam but do you trust him going forward. Oh Man I laid it up before. There's there's no way you untrusted. I mean this is just essentially. This is what happens when teams play Miami. It's going to be like this all year. Miami could end up breaking survivor pools because it just just seems like they're not going to be competitive all this year and I mean really in regards to Pollard's huge performance. I think that's that is what you want to see for sure when someone like that given the opportunity given touches I mean I think it's a great sign for his. You know long term production but outside of the New Zealand injury. I just think you know it's foolish to think that he's GonNa get enough volume to really be productive fantasy asset so I think you know if you haven't invest ball. That was an awesome spike week. You might get one or two more those down the stretch but unless the CPO gets injured I I. I think that he's basically just a handcuffed at this point. Yeah I agree. We'll have trust issues with them. Josh I'm assuming you're in the same boat. Yeah the the cowboys have just added extremely extremely positive game scripts so far and so because of that they're not wanting to run. Zeke into the ground not when they have you know Tony Pollard in the backfield. Who's WHO's competent at the least but unless you unless you think that they're going to continue to blow teams out every week I don't see how all we can expect Tony Pollard to get any kind of real volume. I mean right now. He's getting one point three targets per game so that's about the same aim as frank or what Davis Murray he's got. I think ten ten carries per game and that's that would work but I don't think that's going to continue. I don't trust him yeah so I mean you know it's important. I talk about him because when players have those kind of weeks we know a Lotta people who either you know excited about them before or now you know we'll get excited again. I told you so there's the you know the casual players who see this kind of stuff and they think that. Oh Oh you know this is going to be some new trend my bigger question. You guys you know we haven't talked about together at all is if Tony Pollard in dynasty right right if he shows he's kind of flashes. Do we think he'll rot away in Dallas or do we think at some point in their trade or somebody will come looking for him or do you think we're just he's just. GonNa be a guy even dynasty so you just Kinda rots away. Yeah I mean I'd be super afraid of him turning into like another tab in Coleman's at where or Jerick McKinnon or any the author of these elite talent backs that get stuck in situations where they're not given opportunities early in their careers and then by the time they are given opportunities just kind of fizzle out or get injured man. There's there's so much to the running back position. Being a young man's game in the more touches that you take the more banged up. You're going to be and the hope. Is that okay well. If you're not taking those touches early in your career then at least leader in your career when you're given the opportunity you we'll have much wear and tear on the tyres but it's just it's not been the case with so many guys who've seen fallen to similar situations so I definitely I wouldn't feel great great about his long term prospects but he seems extraordinarily talented so if he's able to get out of Dallas or you know they move on from C. or something I mean. There's there's moving on from seek after the contracts were that thought came from but ultimately if Tony Pollard is able to find himself self a starting role either that being seek mrs time or he finally gets out of Dallas by the time that rules around. I think it's fair to question they'll still be the same level of player is right now. Yeah it'll be interesting. I'm always curious about some for some reason when dicey you know you started thinking ahead and you're like damn well this guy have value later or is this like you know the top the top of the top of the value for him right now. You kind of wonder like do you sell them to. Somebody has Zeke and it's your best chance at this point or you know. Do you hold them for later. In Life. Who knows I guess we'll see how it plays out. the next guy have on here is Nelson N- Galore now. He's has his up and down weeks guys he has. He's up for me. He Soda Sean Jackson. I like crazy with that like he's so totally crazy anyway similar in the way that one huge and they disappeared one week weekend then they disappear O.`Neil that same player but yeah okay I gue- attempting to come from with this Nelson Agla English production has been extraordinarily predictable in the sense that his production is entirely volume related he seeing eleven and twelve targets the last two games it came because of a consolidated offense because they have injuries in their wide receiver core and he's the only wide receiver on that team. There was there last year that is playing right now so it makes sense that he's getting targeted tonneins early in the year. They got guys like Jj are single whiteside trying to learn the offense and become contributors but until that happens he's it. I mean outside of Zacher. It's he's it. He's the only one that they can throw the ball all too so until other players either destroyed Jackson or Alshon Jeffery. Give back on the field. It's the it's the Nelson Aguilar show so. I think it's completely different than a guy like Sean Jackson who does Sean Jackson can thrive in situations where there's other talent on the field because he's able to spread the defense because he's able to get open downfield and honestly in that first week of the season. Sean Jackson showed a lot more than just that ability but Nelson Aguilar in me. He's a completely volume dependent sort of slot wide receiver who is really right now. Just benefiting from volume over consolidated offense while that continues he's someone. I Trust Trust and the second that Alshon or Sean Jackson get back in the game. I think that trust diminishes greatly right. I hear you man so you're you. You trust them now. While he's the only guy then you don't trust them when he's not the only guy I don't trust them at all because I can't deal with the inconsistency period even even with those guys out. I still feel like he can have crappy games. I don't know I don't I don't trust them. I don't feel confident putting on my lineup for whatever whatever the reason is Josh. Yeah he just he does not stand up to target competition so as long as Alshon and John Jackson her out he will get targets but once once the quality comes back to that receiving core is GonNa fall right back to where it was get next man up. Do we know when that is freed to those guys. There's some talk. The Jeffrey could be back as early as this link okay so what if one does. Shawn looks like he should be out this week so would've won comeback. One comes back. It's going to shift targets and nothing offense that I'm not really. GonNa feel comfortable. Starting Nelson AG larks of dislike of flexing deep league's okay I mean there's a flex in deeply exergen still see it. He saw five targets in week one with two Sean Jackson and Alshon on the field so you gotta think that if one comes back it's probably GonNa Shift from this eleven twelve range down to like seven eight and unless he falls in the end zone at that point. You're probably looking. I five hundred fifty kind of game so he's like four plan. PBR Leagues with potential of having it okay a week. She falls in the end zone but you know if both those guys Michigan he's GonNa keep seeing this large target share and then he's basically like a must start. I gotcha Gotcha all right so we we only trust them when he's the only guy though is if there's one of the guy he's a flex at. There's two guys he's a no-go period. he's tempting though people are. GonNa Still Roll the dice the last on the list trust issues is I think so when you mentioned earlier we'll disagree. I don't know if we mentioned him earlier. I forget but yeah we'll disagree this Guy Guy. He's been a fireman. He's been on fire seemed like he was going to go on down this path last season until you got hurt and he's Kinda served right back up where he left off not to mentioned before you came on here. They just traded nick vinet to the seahawks straight onto the steelers so that's less competition forum so he's bombard out..

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"alan gardner" Discussed on The Worldshapers

The Worldshapers

01:54 min | 2 years ago

"alan gardner" Discussed on The Worldshapers

"The world shapers is online at the world shapers dot com. That's the website you you can find it on twitter at the world shapers and you can find it on facebook to the world shapers <hes> google the world shapers podcast. You should find it without got any trouble. I am also online of course as you might expect. <hes> you can find me at edward willits dot com. EDW ARD w. I l. l. e. dot com. You can find me on twitter at e willett e. w. I l. l. e. T. t. and you can find me on facebook. At edward. Don willett you can also so find me on instagram but i'm not very active there. I still haven't quite figured out how to make that work for me but <hes> i am on there. If you want to check it out that's another episode of the world shapers eighty percent a mini more great episodes to come lined up quite a few guests that i'll be talking to very short order here. <hes> there's lisa kessler who is a paranormal romance romance writers so that's a little different. She's coming up next after that. We've got people like <hes>. Tim pratt to susan j forest garth nix very excited about that one <hes> james alan gardner candice jane dorsey. I may be forgetting somebody but there's some great guests still to come and i hope view will come back and listen to all of these episodes and also go back and check out on the world shapers dot com website the archives where you can go back and listen to the first i years worth of <hes> interviews because just past the year anniversary at the beginning of august and it's been a great year of talking to riders in there are many more green talks with writers to come. Come back more chance. That's this week <music> uh-huh..

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"alan gardner" Discussed on The Worldshapers

The Worldshapers

02:06 min | 2 years ago

"alan gardner" Discussed on The Worldshapers

"We just talked about where you can find cameron online. You can find the world shapers online at the main website. <hes> the world shapers dot com. You can find it on twitter at <hes> at the world shapers you can find it on facebook out the world shapers. If you search for the world shapers podcast. You'll find it without any trouble. If you would like to know more about me your hopefully genial <unk> host. You can find me online at edward willett dot com e._d._w. A._r._d. w. I l. l. e. t. t. two ts dot com. You can find me on twitter at e willett e. w. I l. e. t. T. and you can find me on facebook at edward dot well. I hope you enjoyed this episode of the world tapers. I hope you will come back in the future for some more great interviews. Some of the people coming up soon include john kessel lisa kessler susan nj forest james alan gardner candice. Jane dorsey mary robinson cowl and just <hes> confirmed actually today as i'm recording this. It's a bit of the podcast <hes> garth nix. <hes> has said that he will be. I guess i'm very excited about that. One so lots of tremendous writers coming up we'll be talking to i'll be talking to and of course if you want to go back and listen to some of the previous ones you can find them all listed on the website up to the world dot com. If you click on archive <hes> in the main menu that will take you to a list of everybody that i have talked to so far and again. That's it this time around. It's been great fun talking to cameron hurley. I hope you've enjoyed listening and i hope that you'll come back many more times to listen to migrate interviews with the science fiction and fantasy authors who created aided the fabulous world. We've enjoyed adventures and over the years and wonderful characters who have shared those adventures with that's it for this star <music>..

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"alan gardner" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

Newsradio 700 WLW

03:58 min | 2 years ago

"alan gardner" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

"L w. Everything in life is cyclical. The way things are, are not going to be the way things are going to be all of us are kind of important. But none of us are indispensable certainly I was here during the heyday of Bob Trumpy, and Gary Burbank. And Bill Gable. Randy Michaels, Chris Collins worth who I taught talk radio to, and I thought, oh my God. When those guys go that'll be it. Don Webb was hair Bill Reidar, all my gosh, who's ever going to take their place. Well, here comes Jeff Henderson, and Brian combs, and Jack crumley. And now Jeff Henderson is leaving after thirty six years now who's left. Well, we've got a full new staff over there, not are full of piss and vinegar, I think doing a pretty damn good job, except many are too liberal for my taste, but that's a different issue. And so right now our ratings and revenues are higher than they've ever been. And so somehow we keep getting along in somehow when we have the so-called stars leaving we reload. All of a sudden, last McAllister shows, Atlanta's great Scott Sloan. Well, that's pretty good. Gary, Jeff Walker. That's another story then Mike McConnell goes from mid days, too. Mornings the most diverse individual here at the station is might McConnell. I could not do morning drive. I, I couldn't do it and Mike McConnell, does it with alacrity and he goes from nine AM Mon Mike, originally did production here, which means he, he voiced commercials. And Pat Barry was doing mid days after after Randy Michaels, and Alan Gardner was Pat berry and then Mike just pinched head a little bit. And suddenly someone said, probably Randy Michaels, who's the George Washington, this radio station. That guy's pretty good. But then they had him on from nine AM to two PM and radio. It's like a three hour shift maybe four hours, but not for talk radio but three hours he was on for five. And so, I had the brilliant idea when I ran the station of putting me on twelve to three. Mike go Niamh the new that was a stupid idea, according to George Washington, and I think things have worked out pretty well the past twenty one years in fact now. I was on a night for sixteen years, and now on twelve to three for the last twenty one years that's about thirty seven years. That's not bad to run. Thank I got one or two more years left in me, then I'm gonna go out to pasture and enjoy my life doing other things. I, I still a lot of living Zuma, my wife wants to spend time in Italy, she wants to. She wants to go to China, penny wants to go to South Korea, and I'm thinking, well, you know, I can't go to those places I'd have trouble going to China because they're communist. I may have put my foot down on that one. I'm not going to give any money. The red Chinese communist not going to happen. I'm not going to go to Cuba. I'm not giving money to the communist who run Cuban. I'll do it, but South Korea. Why not Italy? Absolutely beautiful spent time in the amalfi coast. Nothing like it. So I understand why Marty Brennaman did. But Marty Brennaman did which was, you know, he's seventy seven years old. And how much more do you have left? I think I have twenty years, I think, I've at least fifteen to twenty years. A good health. According to Preuss Roddy. So I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing as long as two things number one. I get up in the morning and I want to do it number two. Most importantly, you accept me, if you accept me, and I want to do it. I'll be here as long as those two things occur. When one of those things do not occur. I'm gone with the wind it's over. I'll say goodbye, and I wish you well, but I get up every morning and I'm motivated to do this motivated now is I wasn't nineteen Eighty-three and number two, you accept me and your car and your truck in your home. You accept me in your office, and as long as that's happening..

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"alan gardner" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

Newsradio 700 WLW

03:42 min | 2 years ago

"alan gardner" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

"Radio too. And I thought, oh my God. When those guys go that'll be it Don Webb was here. Bill Reidar all my gosh. Who's ever gonna take their place? Well, here comes Jeff Henderson, and Brian combs, and Jack crumley. And now Jeff Henderson is leaving after thirty six years now who's left. Well, we've got a full news staff over there, not are full of piss and vinegar. I think doing pretty damn good job, except many are too liberal for my taste, but that's a different issue. And so right now our ratings and revenues are higher than they've ever been. And so somehow we keep getting along. And somehow when we have the so-called stars leaving we reload. All of a sudden last McGowan stir shows of Atlanta's great Scott Sloan, that's pretty good. Gary, Jeff Walker. That's another story, then Mike McConnell goes from mid two mornings, the most diverse individual here at the station is Mike. Mcconnell I could not do morning drive. I, I couldn't do it and Mike McConnell, does it with alacrity and he goes from nine AM Mike, originally did production here, which means he, he voiced commercials and Padbury was doing mid days after after Randy Michaels, and Alan Gardner was Pat berry and then just pinched head a little bit. And suddenly someone said, probably Randy Michaels, who's the George Washington of this radio station that guy's pretty good. But then they had him on from nine AM to two PM, and in radio, it's like a three hour shift, maybe four hours, but not for talk radio but three hours he was on for five. And so, I had the brilliant idea when I ran the station of putting me on twelve to three not Mike O nine to noon. That was a stupid idea, according to George Washington, and I think things have worked out pretty well the past twenty one years in fact, now I was on a night. Four sixteen years. And now on twelve. Three for twenty one year. That's about thirty seven years now. It's not bad. Go to run. Thank I got one or two more years left in me, then I'm gonna go out to pasture and enjoy my life doing other things. I, I still a lot of living. My wife wants to spend time in Italy, she wants to she wants to go to China, sh penny wants to go to South Korea. And I'm thinking, well, you know, I, I can't go to those places I'd have trouble going to China because they're communist, I'm gonna put my foot down on that one. I'm not going to give any money. The red Chinese communist not going to happen. I'm not going to go to Cuba. I'm not giving money to the communist who run Cuba not going to do it, but South Korea. Why not Italy? Absolutely beautiful spend time in the amalfi coast. Nothing like it. So I understand why Marty Brennaman did. But Marty Brennaman did which was, you know, he seventy seven years old, and how much more living you have left. I think I have twenty years, I think, I've at least fifteen or twenty years, good health, according to Prusse Roddy. So I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing as long as two things. Number one, I get up in the morning and I want to do it number two. Most importantly, you accept me, if you accept me, and I wanna do it. I'll be here as long as those two things occur. When one of those things do not occur. I'm gone with the wind it's over. I'll say goodbye, and I wish you well, but I get up every morning and I'm motivated to do this motivated now is I was a nineteen eighty three and number two, you accept me in your car and your truck in your home. You accept me in your office, and as long as that's happening. I'll keep doing it. Because number one I enjoyed doing it. Number two. You accept me us continue with more reds baseball off today. Friday, Saturday and Sunday in.

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