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HR 1: Lakers need a big man in their life!

Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin

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HR 1: Lakers need a big man in their life!

"I ain't laura's not here today true reloads is getting us into the show and bronstein is taken. Takes two people to do laura's job around here so i'll settle down numbers. Don't lie bra. Sia hats so but nonetheless used during the baht on twitter talking about greg and his love for in and out fries which look i love in and out as much as the next guy. The burgers are great. Fast food burgers. But i'm kind of with laura here the fries are just okay. Bergman stop it. Stop it the fraser delicious. I love the fries there. I mean i really do i. I love lived in and out fries. I'm not even going to deny. I love eating out. Here's the question. If i am in the mood for a frosty i will wait in line at wendy's just for that frosty. Damn are you waiting in line just for those fries or the fries like a happy sort of you know package deal but not enough for you to go just for the fries. Yeah that's fair. I will not go just for the fries love to love that. I won't go anywhere for just fries. Maybe mcdonald's no no. I don't even like i mean mcdonalds. Fries are still. The king usually remind us that mcdonald's is a sponsor. Aren't you supposed to say. actually. I know that mcdonald's zone just love mcdonald's fries now bergman i i said i'd i love mcdonald's out a big fan of the price yeah let me tell you something. Animal style fries. Okay now look. I got it. It's it's not good for you. Okay but you gotta have no food guilt to throw on top of the fries. The the sauce the onions. I mean those are good fries. You can't drive with those fries. I can tell you that right now. Yeah look i love burgers. Fries are fine. Animal style makes it better. But i'm just saying like in and out burger best fast food burger okay. I made on that best fries. Mcdonald's is the king like it. Just it's okay. Don't get about five guys. Five guys fries. No yes is double fried. They're amazing. Oh no no five guys feels like i don't know man. It's like they're very oily. I don't know guy's got a hot dog. Like i never get a hotdog join for a hotdog. Hell cap i know. Give it a little. Usually they lie. The dog elsie. I don't care what they do to the dog. That dog's not being that pound right exactly. So i've been to shake shack. They have they have all sorts of other stuff that aren't burgers like they got a hot dog back. They never would get a hot dog but it just so happens five guys that they got a great dog. I it's hard for me to get in a vehicle. We're in a line fight. Traffic for a hotdog agreed. Unless it's the dodger stadium. But that's at dodger stadium for the dog. I went to for the game. Yes i'm not going to five guys for the dog. I'm just happened to say that. I find myself in a five guys. I didn't know their fries. Were that great. But i do know that. They've got a dog man. I'm gonna let you handle that. Hey speaking of handling things real quickly. L. z on our pre show meeting took off. And i said that the guys i go. Hey did i miss this yesterday. Or was l z. Clean shaven yesterday. I'm a pretty observant guy and bronstein said kaplan you notice the most ridiculous things about people like ridiculous l. c. had a long goatee forever and it's gone. He's all clean shaven. he looks great. Did i miss that yesterday. I did shave it. Yesterday i was clean shaven yesterday but you know what i thank you for noticing. You look right man. it's it was Those passive aggressive directions from my husband goes it. i knew he was saying just. He's he's he's got a ha- you know how it is and you're married with somebody long enough. There's no need for sentences You know he looks g stairs. Your facing goes and that was the end of that. That was it. I'm feeling well you look right man. You look very clean. Shaven very smooth look right. Well thank you. My shannon seen twenty twenty one for the first time. Yeah i would say so. Hey so speaking of two thousand twenty one look. At this year's been strange. We know that and a lot of strange things have come out of it. So what i would say is. Would it shock you. If a professional football player we're breaking important. Nba news l z granderson. It would not shock me depending on. Who was the football player. Okay what if. I told you this football players alan robinson alan robinson is telling us that andre drummond is going to the nets that would surprise me. Okay that was surprised me. The chicago bears. Who was franchise. today. I am sitting here. And i'm trying and i was trying to figure out you know. How could he possibly have this kind of personal information right especially considering under even bought out yet. So i'm sitting there going You're saying they knew each other from detroit right. George yeah he he. Alvarado's is a revenue. Troy and right and andre drummond played in detroit for a long time. Had still doesn't feel like enough for me i. I'm i'm leaning more towards trolling us for the hell of it. Then he's actually breaking news. I actually thought it was really funny. The way he puts in his tweet per sources. This isn't like hey everybody. I'm buddies with this basketball player. And here's where. I think he's headed. It's her sources like it's an official report yet. He's gone all adam. Schefter or whoa giannis. Right that's the reason why i felt like. He was kind of. Maybe trolling us a little bit. Because while he is born in detroit he never played in detroit so it was like you know if you and drummond are at around the same age that means you are basically gone by the time he arrived so like winded us relationship develop. If it's from detroit connection nothing is saying that you couldn't is just what we know. Brother spinning their off-season than detroit. So it's not like they were hanging out in miami or l. a. Lenna and he ran into each other some trying to figure out like how could they have in close relationship to the point in which dray will feel good enough to tell him his plans in the event that he gets brought out. Now that you're selling it like this. I'm starting to think about the possibility of being trolled. Because it wasn't long. After alan robinson throws out this tweet about andre drummond him going to the nets possibly but then espn's field. Yates jumps in and goes. Yo you got any allen. Robinson franchise tag updates force. It's almost as if robinson was saying. Go look over there at that. Nba story and don't even bother me about my whole franchise thing that's happening today. I mean it might have been you know. You never know like how these guys could be friends like. It's very possible. What if now if he doesn't go to the nets like how would that make you feel like if because look stranger. Things have certainly happened. I i still would know him. I mean because we many of us think that you know the lakers the nets you know. Our teams that drape goto anyway right and the nets would seem just based on numbers alone. How much money today have well. You know that's what i was looking at that today. Well okay 'cause example. I tell you what it is. They gave blake. I think two point one million. They had five points. I wanna say five point seven million available so they still got three and change available to give a andre drummond if they wanted to if he gets bought out which is more than the lakers hundred ten thousand dollars. Even if you're saying i'm not chasing dollars. I'm chasing the championship. Well what brooklyn has is. They have a possibility to championship and they actually have three times as much money for you. Correct right i the only thing i would say if dray is kind of going through this you know process if you will. He's gonna get more run in with the lakers. He's gonna get more run. They need him for brooklyn do the do. They need him. Like lakers back. Adm as much. Yes i don't agree with that. Have you not seen mark offers part of the season. Yeah but if they're in the playoffs if they go small which they're going to do a lot like i feel like then. Andre drummond is not as necessary true but we know that the lakers big and small to get this championship. there's no yam yokich is real. I mean that's one opponent is what i'm saying and may or may not see him. We only be one opponent to beat you. But do you think the league's would have lost that series. I don't know if they would've gotten through as easily as they did. Remember there was there was there was a last second shot that everyone keeps forgetting about. That may or may not have gone in. Which could have turned to series. So you know it's like. I know we won for one. But we didn't beat them down close outside they one right there still think they lose the series. Well put it this way. Do you feel good putting mark assault on yokich for the duration of a series. I don't know. I don't. I don't but i will say that's why did we trauman. But i don't care. Because i don't think the rest of that team is better than what the lakers are gonna put out there. You know what i'm saying. Like i mean i know jamal murray is hit big shots. And all that but he's been fairly inconsistent this year already. He was consistent last year. He's been in and out of your your top thirty. He stays in my top thirty top third. Denver nuggets are a little bit fraudulent. Feel the jazz are a little bit fraudulent. The only team. That would worry me a little bit as the clippers. That's it doesn't change the fact that we're talking about a team and the lakers. That aren't positive what the future holds for anthony davis and even if he does come back after that there really is not an athletic big guy and so this is about and i thought this point was made yesterday. It's not necessarily just about trying to make a run for this year. Drums a guy that could be around for the next few years. And i think that's kind of an interesting perspective on this too is is is it just one year rent a guy need a guy now or is it. Could he be part of the next couple of years. And don't you need another big body. I would say you definitely need. I mean i'm the one that said he could be for the long haul so obviously you can got me. I definitely feel like andre drummond could be vital piece going forward because listen. I know everyone is in nam with perimeter play. And so am i. But the lakers were number one in the paint here number one so between our defense efficiency scoring those are some of the biggest reasons why we won the championship. Not because of our peruta offensive play per se. So when i think about what we lost what would replace it with there. Seems to be in my opinion a gap between height advantage that we had a season ago which clearly was very helpful. And what we're offering now. We can out small ball anyone still but we can't out big people and i love the fact that the lakers were balance last season and this season we're not as balanced. No they're definitely not as balanced. But i don't know i like i think it's important. I think he he. The nets need him more. Because i actually feel like just as much as you think like mark is not very good anymore. The andre jordan is birdie. Sorry he's pretty he's pretty shot to. Yeah you know like he ain't staying no abc healthy. So i feel like and blake shirts. L. not going to do that. So that's why i feel like they would need him more but again. All of this is predicated on health. Right right and you know how you know that. Deandre jordan is shot. Because because i'm james harding is yelling at him on defense right right. That's how it's been really good for brooklyn's got there have been really really good. I look we'll ask the audience. Eight seven seven ten years. Do you need andre drummond. Like do you need him. Like need is the keyword there. Also there is this on baron. Dave's baron davis actually tweeted something out that makes me feel like there could be more to this. Baron davis thing than meets the eye. We'll get to that in a couple seconds. We'll be back in about two and a half minutes the ground but first kiki we're traffic. What's up. kiki. I thank you so much busy tuesday afternoon and head on out to diamond bar. Boulevard northbound at the sixty that pomona freeway right before the dickie seven. We've got all lanes blocked in both directions. this is the end of a pursuit. And so we've got just a lot of police activity through the air. So so if i can help you to avoid that area please do so. This report sponsored by the california labor and workforce development agency. Essential workers are the foundation of our economy families and communities depend on them. You're concerned about your safety at work. Due to covid. Nineteen take action. Learn your rights visit. Dr dot c. dot com forward slash. Kobe i'd kiki with your traffic seven ten. Espn i mean you do notice weird. Things kaplan early. Do the guy had a fricken gigantic goatee for ourselves. It's not like it just went away and it was like. Hey there's something different about your finger just something. I don't know what it is. I was pretty obvious. Don't you think. I don't think that observation was on the other things you said right. Maybe it's because i've seen you know. L z all these different facial. hair iterations. Maybe they're not new to me. It's new to you cap. Okay i mean. I gotta say. He looked very very tough when he had the whole thing going on with the tough. Now i'm saying now. He looks like very very cute. Like a whole different. Lzw him happened to show like we were on a road and all of a sudden cap at the steering wheel and now. I'm tiger woods all right back here and all of a sudden we had a meeting beforehand. That's a google doc. We're supposed to be saying speaking of the meeting and you heard bronze in. They're in for laura today cap. You did make this observation. And it was astute bronstein is an android guy so what happens is our entire group. Text is all screwed up now. Because you know when when you're all on iphones it makes it easier to do the i message. And the you know the android guy does stick out literally like a sore green thumb in this particular case bridenstine to block you me because because you've you've flooding text messages and i have to scroll and scroll down scroll to find christmas insults against me right right. I like the insults to be very obvious. I don't like to have to search for the insults. I prefer them to smack me right in the face with insults. Yes it only me search for them. There's always one guy in a group text that's an android guy and everybody else got live in the android world because a one guy. Listen to me. Everybody should have an iphone at this stage of the game now. i know. There's a lot of androids out there. Go no no no you should have an android smart guy but i just think the iphones easier thing because everybody seems to have one. Am i wrong here or there. More androids than iphones i know are there. Feels like in my peer group. There's way more iphones than android. They're very few androids. Googles e yeah. I'm similar. we got hooked with those commercials for the ipod. Yeah and ever since then. It's kind been hard to get out of that apple vortex. I am curious although nowadays. There's what's up. There's all these different chat apps. I guess we could do that. Make it a lot easier and not have to do the green text chat thing. Although that's just an extra step he's right. You get caught in the apple. Vortex i remember the rest of you guys. But that's what happens because then it becomes an apple laptop and ipad iphone. Well so i am committed like l z. Said i am committed right. So i've got all apple products. I've got a mac in front of me. And i'm able to bring up my text messages. Except they only come. In as i messages so if it is an android it won't come on my computer screen like i gotta check on my phone so it is an extra work bronstein. That is for me. At least these are by the way pretty obvious observations when a gentleman is rock and gigantic goatee for a really long time and all of a sudden he's clean shaven people notice that stuff when you're on a group tax and there's only one person with with antibiotics out and it sticks out like a sore them. These are pretty general observations from people who have their eyes open and are paying attention. That's all nothing major. Here yeah yeah. Okay fairness i so bearing davis we were talking about the andre drummond thing. Andre drummond is playing for the cleveland cavaliers or technically not playing for the cleveland cavaliers. But you get the point. He's on their roster and he makes twenty eight million dollars on expiring contract so the whole point is the lakers obviously would need him to get bought out so speaking of buyouts now. Baron davis tweeted this today. Because remember baron davis at the end of his towards the end of his career was on the cleveland cavaliers. When lebron was with weight and bosch show barron tweeted this out today with all the drummond news. That's out there. He says i remember dan. Gilbert send a message to me. He wouldn't let me out of my deal. If i went to play with lebron exclamation point exclamation point facts. He knew that's where i was going to play any played hardball. He said if i went to play with lebron he would win a title. I told him lebron's get a win. One anywhere which he was right and poor barren didn't get a chance to latch onto a championship team but which they probably could've used him especially that first year chauncey billips went through similar thing. Actually that was. He wasn't allowed to go. He wasn't bought out in the right situation. But you know. Do you believe that. Dan gilbert could still l z. Be playing hard ball because it is lebron on the other side even brought them another brought him a championship football. I think hard ball. It's when you're both going after the same thing and you're fighting you wouldn't to be dirty. I think that's hard ball. Okay what he would as petty which he really has no horse in this race. Andre drummond is not helping them. When trading andre drummond won't turn into a winner now this is simply being petty to prevent former player on another team from several years ago from winning a championship. That's been petty right right. But it's but it's not beyond dan gilbert or by the way other team owners right to say. Now hold on a second here so yeah. Ok lebron left. He went he one. He came back he delivered but he's gone now and so you know what. I really don't want to help him. So i'm going to. I'm going to. Baron davis this guy. Because i don't want him going to help lebron when moore is it petty one hundred percent. Is it realistic absolutely. And is it beyond these guys better. How much money or success. They have absolutely not this. Portion of the show is presented by alignment health plan changing healthcare one person at a time. Let's go to the phones. Tony's in downtown. La what's up t guys. I'm gonna else either. I really feel that we really do need dramatic but we really big period and if we actually don't wear the cap hit this year which i hope we do. What's it called. It's gonna we're gonna look back Let's what how relieved. Because i like microsoft in the past. He's tries now you know. Yeah he can talk ball and everything but he's really just tries The really do anything. Were tony thing. Though everybody's trash trade. I know you're saying he's been really bad. I'm with you on that word trash. I won't call them trash. But i'll just say i said so. When we signed him like he was he was obvious. He was done in toronto that last year. The playoffs was bad. Playoffs right plans were bad and you knew that it was. It was a rap. He's very skilled. he's still very skilled. Big man and i think in small dosages he can help us tremendously fifteen minutes. But if we're leaning on him to be a defensive force in pick and rolls And to to score points offense you know and clean up games and clean up a possessions and things like that. He's just isn't there anymore. And this is the thing about mark last season guys. We could depend on our biggs to score in the paint right if necessary but if necessary like that little you know. Pick and roll easy. You know law passed that brown feasted on for a good chunk of the opening place. Javale mcgee filling. Yes that's gone yeah. That corruption is completely gone. Outside of anthony davis correct. We had three guys that would do that. Play for us last season which then gets back to the question of the word need versus want. Do you need drummond. Or would you want drummond. And right and i gotta say whether anthony davis is fully healthy and comes back or he doesn't. I actually still think the word is needed more than one. He's a complementary piece. I think he's a and by the way it doesn't have to necessarily just be him. Another big body is something that this roster seems to really really need. Let's go to david downey. What's up david bergman. I love me from in and out. I even had me a little in and out flash set to but their fries are thought awful so well we love island. Go that far but i think there is great as birdman. Did you say you have an in and out tattoo. did you say that. Yeah i got one of those little Friday the thirteenth. They do little design and Some my arts a little in and out cutting selections really really really love in and out or you have other fast food restaurants. Can't on your body. The only one the only non like non jews that i've ever thought it was that one that i also met a trigger. Rakoczy those are just kind of like flash dot going in and out burger mind when he won his oscar. Can you do. Can you take a picture of the in and out to dinner or something. Yeah of course listeners. If you have a mcdonalds or mcdowell's one in those as well. Wendy's burger king. Whatever when you get fifty percent off if you show them okay. That's working for me. Yeah yeah so david upside. You say what you were saying. You were in yeah. I think we need them. I'm a with a big before me. If an associate for right now. I mean we're in trouble. I remember the day where damon jones has a star because the phone without and trust and have that much height we meet need some high and also to if it seems like a d isn't coming back sooner that we think and we're going to need someone helping journey can also score the paint night. So what are you want to help these games and it also feels like brooklyn is grabbing all these guys. The way the clippers last year does feel like that. Thank you for the call. David does feel like that a little bit. I'm gonna sneak one more in before we play our game overrated underrated properly rated. It's devan in long beach. Says l z will hate his take. Why why would your take on. What is your take my take. Is that basically the same way that a lot of owners in nba. Were being petty and kept chris. Paul from coming to the lakers If dan gilbert wants to be petty keep andre drummond from coming lebron. Then oh well. The lakers are my team. But oral i just. I don't have any sympathy for. And i know l z. Lebron's your do and All the help that we get would be helpful. It'd be great if we get a drama but we can't well. We didn't get. Get get chris paul mandible reason. We did not get chris. Paul that that is true. I don't think. And i think i've been pretty consistent with this. I never thought it was a race jesper drumming but as a race to get bigger. Okay andre drummond is the name as forty right there. So when i say we need him. I'm saying we need what he has to offer. But i agree. I can definitely agree to that. I yvonne thank you so much buddy have a great day divided long beach drops off coming up. Next we've got overrated underrated or properly rated the game that is sweeping the city coming up in two minutes here on seven ten. Espn all right. Fellas over under overrated underrated properly rated is brought to you by group chats the android guy so look at you being witty to start. How bergman on brawny is been on. Don't be the android guy. It's a real thing split. Start off in major league baseball. And i haven't seen a lot. There's been a lot of discussion about the dodgers and how they had this giant payroll. They have a two hundred forty five million dollar payroll. The are is the most in baseball by a large margin is the discussion around their payroll. Despite being made of a roster that's mostly homegrown overrated underrated properly rated and l z will start with overrated haters. Hate haters going to hate. They're trying to say we're buying championships. Now maybe we are growing championships. And then we're taking care of them once they're fully developed so anyone who criticizes the dodgers for quote unquote. Buying championships are just teams. That are doing the same behalf. No chips to show for it while i agree with your overall premise. L z. i will say that if you look at their salaries at the moment. Trevor bauer is their highest paid salary. Who is a free agent. Mookie betts was a trade and he's their third is salary at the moment. Aj pollick is their fifth highest salary and david price is their seventh highest salaries. So i think that because the roster has changed some. I think there's this narrative out there that isn't completely accurate because again. Those are only a handful of guys that i mentioned now. They do account for a large portion of the pie. But it's not the largest portion of the pie. That's for sure. I would say it's properly rated because while you can talk about home grown talent and that's fair and george you bring up a talent that has been brought in from the outside. It's highly paid and that's also a fair conversation. Have the end all be all is you can develop on the farm. You can draft. You can cultivate but if you've got an open checkbook to go out and get what you need and then lock it up. That's something that the dodgers have and for those that don't have that we'll tough but let me just tell something. San diego complained about that forever. And then all of a sudden they're payroll exploded from out of nowhere so new ownership with deep pockets. Stop complaining about small market and they started ending up. Yeah i mean listen. I think it's just properly rated. I think that they are high payroll and they had a lot of guys. But that's what you're supposed to do when you have a championship team right. You're trying to win. I think that when you're in it to win it you have a window and you take advantage of that. I don't feel like that. Should be viewed as a negative like okay who cares so why plenty of teams in baseball. That aren't spending money and aren't really trying to win. And i say credit to the dodgers for continuing to scored wanting to win. And that's something that clayton kershaw talked about about a month ago like. Hey we're still in this thing trying to win it all right all right. What's next greg. All right so i've been. This is maybe a little bit personal but having some stomach issues. And i'm going on a clint's and i'll never done it before. But i feel like maybe now time to do it and Clauses overrated underrated or early rated. Oh no no no no. No this is underrated okay. I call a natural colon. Cleanse is the way to go first of all there are people who do this regularly is is relative. Because i'll tell you about regularly like a couple of times of year. Yeah what do they call that procedure where you go in you know. That's a colonoscopy. No no not that procedure. Another one where they clean it all out what's that one called a flush Sort of a flush. But i'm not sure that's what they call it. They call it something okay. Well nonetheless there are plenty of cleanses and ways to do it correctly and you follow the guidelines of a medical professional. It is good for you to do occasionally. Is that something. You should be doing regularly. But yeah like. I actually think it would be good for you. You'd never have any idea what kind of junk you got in your intestines bro. Like and my guess is complaining about not having the greatest eating habits over the pandemic. so maybe i feel like it's a good way to get your body right and then you gotta take advantage of it because you're going to lose some weight. Clearly you gotta then focus in on what your goals are from a health and body perspective from their. Don't just do it and be like all right. I'm going back to eating hot dogs at five guys like capela joy. Whatever it really is that that's not gonna help start having a healthier lifestyle. If you're gonna do that. I'm not saying you can have fast food or whatever occasionally but just you know started over. Hit the reset button high colonic. Have you heard of that kalanick. Yes that's what it's called collage out what we're talking about here. I mean sort of kind of what you're talking about. I'm not just. This is uncomfortable for me. I love your body occasionally to reset go. Get yourself a salad dark. What you doing roughage i. I don't want to prescribe a cure without knowing what the helmet is stomach issues could be a thousand one different thing so i don't wanna say dr start there. I don't know what's going on with your stomach good place that's dot com case. You think your stomach problems are not diet now. I think there's a specific Doctor for the The digestive track. What are those people called A booty allergist not a proctology or jesse. Let's see come on doctor. Who deals with stomach problems. Have you have you tried. The natural t incher knowledge issue astro. Entomologists so you need to see way. Too many syllables. Have you done denver. Line tees and things like that. I i don't even. I don't even know what a line a little cameo maybe occasion dandelions flowers that grow in the field world. T is you know it's the by when you seep those leaves in hot water and they're good for digestive system. I'm really homeopathic. When it comes to that your stomach problems. I think are a byproduct of stress not necessarily just purely diet. I think your daily stress of everything. Sports i mean the the life and death nature with which you look at sports i think is creating tremendous stress inside your body. And i think that's manifesting in your stomach issues. I don't know what you could just simply be eating something you're allergic to. That's what i'm saying like. I don't even know what you're upset about. Yeah go asteroid. Technologists go do that. We've good insurance around here. Take advantage of it. We do we do all right. The last one is going to be for cap. And so this this date in nineteen sixty six. The beach boys began recording recording. God only knows for their album. Pet sounds which is one of the top one of the top albums of all time cap. Are the beach boys. Overrated underrated properly rated. I'd say the beach boys are properly rated. I think that the beach boys are perceived to be a sixties seventies Feel good southern california beach vibe. They were able to extend it to like appearances forever. And ever and ever because they've got songs that are sign somewhat timeless a couple of songs. I know i like be true to your school. Like every girl and guy be true to your school. now let your colors fly high. Be true to your school yeah. I like the beach boys for a couple of songs here. And they're okay with them. I say properly rated. I wouldn't go properly rated as well like i. I look at the beach. Boys as a product of their era much. Like you said cap. And i think that They i feel like in that generation you know when people looked at southern california. They were the they were kind of the first thing that came up in their minds. Right if you had no idea about southern california. Yeah the beach boys. I know that you know what i mean like. So they served their purpose for a time and they had some pretty good songs. They're not necessarily in my rotation. But yeah i would say properly rated. I will say underrated. Oh okay. I think underrated because usually people when he talked about bands immediately. Go beatles rolling stones and then you know the beach boys make mention. Someone's top ten or top five k. May not depending upon you know your ear. Obviously we got all the music from motown to consider as well But i think in terms of their cultural influence and the people who took elements of their sound the way they took elements of other people sound. Create their own vibe. I think is underrated. Plus the fat boys sampled them so they can't be all bad boys they did the february's sample shut out by the way recipe sprints marquis de boys who passed away. You know. i worked with him l. z. In the same building a radio station. And i remember. He worked at the hip hop station. The sports station and i would go there every afternoon before he started his shift at all do is ask him questions about those days man. Did he have great stories. So shout out to prince marquis de who passed away recently. Just an incredible incredible stretch of music. That time period was and their movies are funny. I loved them. Yup absolutely disorderly. Yeah yeah so there. They are all you can eat. Yeah oh yuki. They did that their plans signature. That's exactly what they were known for. All right that is overrated underrated properly rated coming up next the three point line man. This thing has become an issue now. All of a sudden does the league need to change the three point line. There's been some discussions. We'll tell you about that coming up in two minutes but first kiki with traffic. What's up. Kiki hey george thank you so much. I'm going head downtown. La one southbound between los angeles treat and bigness. All lanes shut down in both directions. Traffic is stopped from hollywood boulevard. North is jammed from the five. You could take cesar chavez to get around this police activity this report sponsored by taco bell like you a taco bells five dollar bill cravings box picked from some of your favorites to create your own personalized box complete with a medium fountain drink exclusively online or on the app for a limited time tax extra at a limited participating taco bell location near you kike with traffic seven ten. Espn so bergman. How many people are now sending you a cleanses. I got a couple of them that this one guy is telling me. Let me see whether you say the cura from alphonso said do the poor eum cleanse peo- m clinton's but it is a sound like you need to cleanse based on what you were talking about in the break it sounds like your body's already naturally cleansing and that's not a good cleansing much too much exactly that the reason why long gaps of you being on air and stuff maybe has. It happened during the show. No thankfully there's been times where my stomach is. You know grumbling a little bit. I just wait till the show's over. I know you should just go like it would actually be. I mean you know. Hopefully you'll be okay but it will be for the bid you know extremely dark. Thick coffee in the mornings bergman. I do drink black coffee. I thought you were going a different direction with that. I'm glad you said coffee. Coffee is natural. Dia rettig it is. Yeah but i don't think that's the issue. No i don't either. I mean. go see dr bro. No no no no. Don't see a doctor. Be a man suffer in silence too late. Yeah exactly yeah. Sometimes you don't want to go see a doctor. 'cause you're petrified of what the results might be. I'm with chelsea. Be a man and fricken. Go see a doctor and listen. You gotta go deal with reality. You can't just things not gonna get better by itself. You might be very very sick all of a sudden bergman now you got me nervous. Yeah i got so some of my. Latino friends are weighing in and say that Bourbon you gotta stay off the dominant che is the is c. h. in spanish which means to ah which means junk food in spanish. You're you you feel like you gotta redo the diet. I feel dr for as we gotta redo the diet sure. I don't have a lot of junk food though. We don't put a lot of junk food in the house anymore. Because of what was happening. When i was two hundred twenty pounds well but if you may have done that damage already is what we're talking to you about twenty pounds Yeah yeah it was two hundred twenty pounds on the pandemic i started. It was a it was a bad situation. Where were you eating everything everything. There was a pizza. There was a lotta pizza. We would get a lot of fast food. It was just bad. 'cause it was easy and i can have it delivered in fast delivery man like seriously like door dash and ubereats and all these things that have now become like a regular part of people's lives and people are calling mcdonald's to be delivered by door like whoa dude. Really you just go drive through. It's cool no. I'm having that big mac. Delivered the mason syndrome mason gets delivered to his house. I mean for the love of god. I just go go go get it. You know what. I'm saying if you're going to do that drive ten minutes. Yeah yeah say you're gonna get fast food. Delivered popeye's is not a bad route. That's fair so you you are vita meena. Chat data or to cherry depends on what the dialect in spanish. You wanna use. Start with the high colonic. Do go get a high colonic. No he's high. Colonic bodies flowing too much i think. They'll they'll scrape off a lot of the junk that's on his intestines. Listen just some flour. Some just eat some flour man you get do. The what is it called Some breads but anna brand names. Yeah right grains. What is that called the bland diet. Right is banana God what does that call. What is that supposed to slow you. Down oh tighten things up. I gotcha okay you to cork it is that you wanna do. You don't wanna corky it's called the brat diet. That's what it's called the brat. Diet debris diet rapper brat. Diet no brat implant uprising. Applesauce does fucker by that or not brat. No though bergman because you know if your stomach is hurting like that and you're constantly in and out of the bathroom you know and like you're making noises and it's disgusting and your girlfriend probably is like gross. You know yeah you probably should go to a doctor anyway. So the three point line. No no easy transition. I'm just there's no easy. Transfer source of booty. Three point line is made. Nba booty do you. Do you think that the game is worse because the three point line absolutely okay. Absolutely i feel the same way. I'm really consistent. When it comes to this kind of perspective sports. i like big serves. I don't wanna see a match with nothing but big serves i'd like i. I like home runs. I don't wanna see only scoring by home runs. Okay and i live three point shooting. But i don't wanna see a game in which that is the only shot being taken so kevin arnovitz our colleague at espn had a front page story on espn dot com today about this about the nba's problem with the three point line. And by the way our buddy kirk goldsberry hideous being has also written about this over the last couple of to and there's been a lot of different suggestions about it like how to handle it what to do and i with you whenever you want. It was different when it was just like the warriors rockets doing that. Initially you know what. I mean like doing the crazy numbers right. But now everybody's playing that way for the most part so there's not any difference between the teams because even when even when that was happening you still like the memphis grizzlies. Right with soul. And and my coddling those guys the grit and grind right like they were doing it differently. So there's no variation to the style of play. I think that hurts too. I think they need to move back. I would get rid of the corners and just moved the line back some. They've done that before. They moved the line back. But i would eliminate the corners because the corners are the easiest shot to make from a distance. I think right theory. But i've gotta just give you guys a different perspective here. I think the three point shot is what people really like. Now i feel like i feel like okay. Look people wanna see home runs. Yeah we wanna see home runs. Seeing a home run is the most exciting thing going on. People are play playoff the plate people. Well okay but people want to see in in football. They wanna see more offense so football has adjusted. Its rules to create more offense and in basketball. The three point shot because it's worth three points means that over the course of generation more kids have become great shooters from long range and i think people like that. I mean i feel like the three point. Shot is a good thing now the notion of maybe backing up the three point line is kind of a good idea but nobody ever raised the hoop to eleven feet because people were dunking too much. I mean listen. The reality is that it's more about a copycat league than anything else and that the warriors were successful with the three point shot. And so they're being copied and we're just sitting back waiting for the next evolution of the game. But until then i wouldn't i. I like your idea george. I also like the idea of just having my four or five spots that are three point spots like rocket. jack exact was actually well. Don't go that far from the three point competition. They had those two mountain dew. Balls right remember this week. Green balls yeah. Yeah from a different spot So i i mean i do believe that this what we're witnessing is very similar to the the year that the league experimented with moving the line up and there were all sorts of people taking threes then and it just kind of devalued the three because it was so much closer. Now the three is being devalued because it's so often us and we all know what happens when things get saturated you get bored by it so i think they need to find a way to bring play at the rim back. Because that's what brought the league to the four. It wasn't the three point shooting. It was the opportunity to embarrass someone at the rim. That is still the thing that i think most people still like. Maybe we should put up a poll. What amazes you more in a game. Like the long distance. Crazy threes. Or body or greg catching a body at the rim dunkin the rim because man now granted not. Everybody can pull this off. But when you watch damon steph pull up from like half court. Basically and those shots are in their range. Like that's insane. Like steph curry shoots thirty eight percent. From beyond thirty and damian lillard is also in that similar range like thirty eight thirty nine percent it is. If you move that back i think it becomes more more of a specialty shot. And i think that to your point if you wanna develop that game of different strategies it does allow room for that. If you move the three-point back three point line back. You know what happen in two or three or four years and maybe it wouldn't even take that long everybody would adjust. I mean this is just look at it. Yeah i do. I mean i don't know we're barely making it right now. I'm just sitting here. Would then just go to go to work on it. You know like okay three points or here now. So i gotta just shoot shoot shoot okay more but you know what's really i think as taken away from the value of the game isn't necessarily just a three point shots is the fact that effectively people are starting to devalue two point shot that is interesting l. Say let's ask michael thompson about that because he's going to join us next in the next segment we're going to be back in three minutes. Said ten espn.

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PMS 2.0 369 - Dak Prescott Got PAID, Michael Lombardi, Darius Butler, Jane Slater, & AJ Hawk

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"Hello tuesday march ninth. Big show huge show. Today you're gonna like today. I think not all shows are good. Today is not too bad. Nfl news today. A lot of things happen has will tomorrow be a friends elephant. If you like this show if not exactly you never happen. Yeah dak prescott agrees to a deal that will see a hundred in twenty six million dollars. Guaranteed to him over the next four years. A total of one hundred and sixty million seventy five million of that. Basically being guaranteed just next season dak prescott looked at a contract that said a very large number on it a year ago two years ago instead. Nah i don't want he gets franchise in his brother comes out not happy about what's going on everybody else on teams getting paid his agents said. We're getting this money. Hey don't you worry. We're getting this money. A week ago came out dax rate underneath. What patrick mahomes got. He's looking for that deal. That's right up there next to the guy who's already won an mvp already won the super bowl in. Yeah dax coming off a gruesome injury. But you saw how shitty that team was without his in damned they did. Hey seventy five million dollars guaranteed season. That's a record. The nfl that is absolutely awesome for deck prescott. None of us know how this is going to work with the new salary. Cap one source told adam schefter that this was jerry. Jones tipping his cap to the media deal. That's coming now that there's a seventeen game season that they can sell to these networks. And this is jerry jones. Say hey we got a lot. Lotta fucking money coming on seventeen game season in. Did you see our numbers this season. We got money or making in right. Now don't worry about that salary. Cap salary caps. Don't be just fine. I'm a bad motherfucker. Seventy five million next year. Don't you even worry about it. And if that's the case bravo to the nfl money than they've ever made in the year that had no stadium's basically filled at all. No beer sold no nachos no concession. Stand no merchants none of that. They still figure out how they bus outta. They bust out the trump card. They bust out the the right. You're playing euchre the power they bust out everything and saying now. We're going to seventeen games. We need to renegotiate. Al-tv deals and by the way al-tv deals every single network. Whenever we walk in. This is how this is gonna go and you might be able to put on your resume that you negotiated this deal but let me tell you how this is going to go. We're gonna walk in. We're gonna say your best it you're gonna say yes if you want to stay in business with us or you're going say down and guess what you're gonna do you're going to go out of business because we are gonna go somewhere else so they do that with espn cbs fox amazon. Now the nfl knows that they are the game. Everybody else's ratings are going down and i know nielsen ratings are potentially bullshit okay. I know that that is potential all bullshit with nielsen ratings. Nobody knows how they calculate. What's being watched. Where but in that. Same ratings bullshit system. Everybody else seemed to drop the nfl. Just continues to build. More is in every other sport. It is something that they'll be able to be a cash cow forever. They're predicting in five years. The salary cap right now before this jerry jones deal before we find out exactly what it is was predicted to be one hundred. Eighty one million dollars. They're sitting in five years from now. The salary cap will be two hundred and fifty million dollars. Two hundred fifty seventy million dollars. You quick math okay. Sixty nine to be exact. Because i think it was one eighty one or whatever but the fact that that is what it's getting into. That's what they're doing. Motherfuckers might be the best business of all time amazon. I guess right because amazon. Just everything everybody the. Nfl just continuing to raking cash is absolutely awesome. That's a big credit to not only obviously the organizations but the players that have put out an incredible product. The coaches in. Let's just make the rest better. okay now. A lot of other things happening franchise tags are happening trades or happening restructurings happening. We've got a massive tuesday. Wanted mad dog. We'd like to hear from you at cova cowboy over there. Maybe that maybe that should be. It's at turn digs or z but at cove cowboy. That might be the play. Something no because then you'd have to get back and we probably wouldn't be able to get back to digital. We could take him from someone saying that. I ever leave the covert. We know you're doing that. I'm gonna lie. You might be a surfer guy. At some point there will be some off community mob. Okay that takes over is going to start walking in here in hawaiian shirts from flip flops. Oh things just more relaxed now but big things are happening in the nfl right now. Big things you gotta feel pretty good. But debris officially on the market but debris was a absolute power for the pittsburgh steelers. His injury was a big deal for that. Pittsburgh steelers team long-term him coming off the edge with tj on the other side although cam heyward and the boys on d. line did a great job. He was a massive loss to the steelers this year. He's becoming free agent. He great with the indianapolis colts. This dude is a certified killer he will go and get it and i think he works his ass off as steelers fan. Ben rothlisberger back a week ago. Now bud dupree is definitely gone. What's going to happen what you might be a whole new team out. I mean buds gone Microphone unfortunately probably gone. James conner is probably gone. Juju probably gone. There's a lot of. There's a lot of turnover but you guys stink. No no that was by the way. I don't anybody coming after a lot of friends in that organization. I'm just wondering if in digs his mind with all his turnover with quarterback at least for one year guys stink just like the players that are leaving. Juju steelers are really good. Really good wide receiver depth james conner. That doesn't matter at all Gosh oh friend of the show because plug and play. An incredible human just turned sideways. Dan door being cancer. A isn't in your best seller keys. Whatever you get them out tony. But i'm saying those guys can be replaced by the wages. There was no rebuttal. Guys just said response but this is going to be something that's going to happen around the nfl. Yeah lots of teams are going to look very different. I mean trent brown just got traded back to the patriots from the raiders. The raiders have released like six rather well known players from their team. And they're not going to be the only one. There's a lot of people are. The saints are getting rid of people that are restriction things. There's a lot happening all because the potential salary cap and then people now are saying jerry. Jones is tipping his cap that salary caps going to be more are some teams can be pissed off with the cuts at the made because they talked to salary cap was going to not move as much and then it ends up doing in other teams. That are completely out of touch with where that's going to be. There's no way. I would assume every team knows the same information that jerry jones knows right. You would think if they don't shame on them. Well that's what because if this is jerry jones tipping his cap or tipping a cab to thinking. The new media deal is going to be worth in jerry jones. Now i'm not one hundred percent shore. Yeah adam schefter reports at one lead source on the dak prescott deal. You know what this is. This is jerry jones tipping off the extraordinary tv deal. That is coming okay. So does jerry jones. No stuff that everybody else doesn't because everybody else should just cut and players because they think it's going down and if that's the case are you pretty pissed off. Nfl owner if one guy knows a little bit more than you do that means. There's no way there's no way that could be possible. Because i assume jerry's not just working. He signed deals by himself. Everybody would have to know the same information weddings. Yeah you would. You would think i mean. Tampering can't have it. I mean fraudulent chain not orly. Jerry's don't owners meetings like i don't know guys. Tv deals not going to be what we thought it will. It's a bubble okay. We don't know when they don't know so. That's kind of compensation our report back after. I sign this guy to seventy five million dollars next year when everybody else is just now. That's his cap. It somehow seventy five million dollars cap it somehow because the signing bonus was to something else they they. They figured out a way to manipulate it. Where it's only like it's less than what it would have been if he was franchise tag or whatever but still the point remains. It's how how is he everybody else's going the other way. And he's judging what just got paid to know what seventy five million seventy five million dollars. I'm fucking pump for only is any time somebody gets paid. I'm happy for them. I hope everybody makes a billion dollars in his happy. And that's legitimately how i feel about every situation. It feels like the only people that are actually doing over the the owners in the nfl. The money just keeps coming in for them. It's unbelievable well. It just makes no sense because you look at the the packers. They're bigs everyone's talking about. Hey they might be players they might go grab a couple of guys like their big acquisition is bringing funchess back. I mean it's so hey. Chess was on the colts. Okay funchess schmidt at boston connor by the way great to have you boys here everybody in the back you guys are. The best foxy is getting a lot hate around the internet. And i can't wait to hear him opened up a little bit but funchess he was. I guess i what. Why are you doing it. I guess it's funny. I didn't recall that. Until i saw the photo of him making a catch there for the colts score. Not just a cat or drop. They're throwing the bus who who made that. I don't know that getty image is at fox. Walks jedi here. We go so it's interesting. I literally just said fox is getting also. He's setting this up for failure. In a michigan man with zero touchdown so okay so what i'm saying is okay. And then he goes the green bay right in he opts out for last season wasn't the only person in the nfl. Although a lot of people did play last year a lot of people played very good football. So you know it was always interesting for who opted into opted out. What are the long term effects. If you're a made man opting out assume when the fact that there wasn't a lot of than patriots players that were made men that were opting out everybody else i they said like hey there will be no judgment on the other side but there's humans making decisions so let's assume there's potential judgment from some not all but when he opted out or whatever you know i was like okay. I can't wait to see what happens. I just learned a lot about this guy. I fucking love this guy and he is a savage to. Oh yeah hey. I i wish i knew him. Earlier i was shown of a video of his that he posted on instagram. I believe this dude is way too. He puts on the green and yellow green and yellow game changer. Foxy please. Roll this video from devon punches at a pickup basketball game and tell me you don't want this guy on your team. Yeah that's devin funchess at a pick up basketball court letting everybody know like hey i got time for your shit right now. We're playing down here by the way guy is a guy that i want on the team. Him coming back for the green bay packers good news. They had to restructure his contract. He's taking less money or whatever that's a guy on my team. One thousand percents interest and now. I'm actually pretty excited for the green bay packers. You know they got another weapon coming off. I mean if you keep watching that video and listen. I didn't see him play last year. So did who knows but he might be better at basketball than he saw. That's that's what i'm concerned. Also unbelievably need a guy in the slot. We don't need a big bruiser on the outside like them me. I guess we'll take him. I think the packers could save. You know more money. Just cut him. But i mean say if they taught him and as you grasping for cash right now as you tell. This was a conversation that happened earlier. Today when i was introduced that video from him that i it was awesome awesome. Yeah it was hey videos especially if that's at like la fitness or something like that. Just think you know. Some average white played in high school walking in there. Just going almo- lace my boots for first time you're gonna get into little pickup him bodily. This can happen. You go into some of these games. You run into a guy former college. All american actually hurt his ankle his senior year. He would have been a lottery pick. It's like why the fuck in my plan innocent. Well it's pickup. You know that guys. That guy's entire nuts are on your face most of that game if you choose to play defense and if you don't play defense games going to be quick and you won't be as tired something to think about funches on the court if he's guy on the field favor player yeah i mean if he shows what he showed on that basketball court on the football field. Next year he'll score like fifteen touchdowns easing explosive ashley. Shadow to devin funchess. By the way we would run your entire highlight video here sir. Could see the song is just you know. They'll they'll shut our entire business at boston. Connor big patriot fan. Oh my god. Who's in the game. Well back in the game after a season of having a massive disappointment Not cam newton's but cam newton comes in the offense has connor campbell plane wide receivers right. You know what i mean. A lot of players opted out last season. Not a lot of win. Ono tommy. Foxborough goes on to win a super bowl somewhere else through. It seemed like the tide was really turning on the people of new england and then all of a sudden sixty six million dollars in cap space. Let's bring this offense a tackle back the town from las vegas. That's on big snows out of play. We need a little bit of that. Now he's going to spend some more money. People were saying van noise going back. You got to be pumped about free agency. Here comes bill all these other in the nfl. They're scrambling for cash. Dies talking about cutting funchess. Who throwing down dunks. Just for a million bucks builds out here slinging. We still got fifty five million after the eleven million for trent brown. And we talked about it before. Hopefully we can rework some signing bonuses somehow get even more cap then you know who knows maybe. Ab comes back. Why won't maybe we bring. Abc beck calvin knowing next week. I mean there's plenty hausky is going to be free jazz bridge shit. We gotta take run at brady. If they don't get that we'd like to trade no magic. If in a blockbuster trade the new england patriots have traded for tom brady god. It'd be. I know anything relationships. It always works when you get back together after the break. It's always like you know. One older gentleman describes it to me like this. I was obviously much younger coming out of a relationship. We went on a vacation. My boys and i while we're on the beach we ran into a man. Who is a alderman with this guy by the way very successful man. Okay he he actually flew us back in his plane so we flew to beach commercial. We flew back in this guy's playing. Okay so guy had money or whatever and you know we were having a good time. So he came over. He was an older gentleman like to have a good time so he came over partying with us or whatever and he goes so he gets broken up. And i go. Yeah he goes now. Don't go back into that fridge. My friend and i said well you're talking about. He said it's always interesting to me. People put the milk back into the fridge after it's been expired. And then they shut it and then they get to a point. Where like what does milk was good. At one point it was wasn't it was really good milk at one point. And you're like. I'm go back in there and i'm going to try to drink that and it's going to be just like the good old days and then you drink that shit and guess what it's more than it wasn't and i sit. You might not have noticed because it was cold or whatever but it's going to happen quick and you're gonna regret your decision to go back into the fridge. My friend raised up like glass. It was like a like a magical moment there. That's real in. That is something. I think that would happen potentially with the patriots and tom brady especially after. Tom got experience. What life was like with bruce. arians remember. Tom said he didn't want throw wednesday. Fuck don't there was never able to do that with bill. I mean there's no way but if bill belichick starts becoming a destination place for free agents look for them to potentially win some more games. That's right there's eleven shown in the patriots milk. Okay we can go get a b. Or maybe allen robinson we know the lions aren't gonna franchise. He's already right. Al robinson robinson broke some nba this andre jomon signing with the nets. I so i. I saw that we i was like okay. This is different. Allen robinson in every response i yeah. What the fuck are you doing. Hey i liked it. Alan robinson's getting source. I hope now we have great relationships within sidra. Okay we great relationships and there will always be news for insiders to break. I mean they have friends that don't i like the thought of players though being insiders further friends and things like that. I like that a lot because you can. You know. I mean it's a big deal this. This tweet is a big deal. And if he and andre drummond boys or whatever like that's quite a bone to give your friend. I remember eight q shipley whenever he was gonna go sign somewhere. You just let me know whenever you signed. Somebody's yeah absolutely no problem. He says there prob. Then all of a sudden. I'm reid shefty tweet about shipley signing with the payback nears. I'm like i knew this three weeks ago. I said this three weeks ago when he goes. I didn't even know. Okay schefter new before me. These guys know like the owners they shefty has ins with like the lead counsel with teams enwrap report. Has these high up sources. so sometimes players can't do it. Andre drummond doing ron robinson awesome. Look for alan robinson. Potentially return the favorite. Andre drummond for what alan robinson's gonna guess. Let's keep an eye on. Andre drummond social media accounts to new york. You know maybe then allen robinson will follow him and go to the giants or the jets. You think they're such good friends. he's my god is there. i just came from chicago. You know it was awesome. Mitch trubisky i want to go to another place. That cold season short bob solves quarterback. That stinks who do i mean. He's on sam darnold o tie with all those. Qb gurus or slots is going to hear this and not be happy animal worrying to fox. Or you're just going to say allen robinson from detroit. Andre drummond spent a lot of years in detroit so it does make sense that they're boys okay. Speaking of it made sense at the time was allen robinson in high school whenever he was play into trey how many years you play in detroit detroit. you know. He's from detroit. I'm saying probably spends a lot of time. Detroit on the offseason. Nba games in the offseason. Meets up with andrei dot. I'd but does anybody spend their off-season in detroit. Calvin johnson's still lives there. Barry sanders still lives there. Mike posner says you know he's made love in every city but he'll be buried in detroit he's from but i don't think you put things when they're carried. Well that's where he's from. Okay little respect but it never in that song did he say visit detroit. I mean he just said. I'll be buried in detroit loves it. I've gotten into a big mike. Posner kick by the way really. Oh big bangers. Here's here's a song called like. I can write a song. It's basically him as hell explaining why he's good at writing songs. Pretty pretty good banger. To the melodies import is just high guide music and all levels. What are you speaking of. Detroit and wide receivers. It was expected that godwin robinson in galway could all be franchise. Tag godwin was franchise tag. We don't know about robinson but we do know that golladay will not be safe on the marks pella. Sarah the lines don't plan to tag wide receiver. Kenny golladay per source. No final decision on whether detroit may use attack on someone else but it appears day headed into the market congrats kenny. Call it out. I'm sorry. Come on a mostly kimball guy a great come on. Yeah but this healthy would be a great as what alan robinson. Anybody that can catch balls well in his on the market. Come on down to indianapolis we need in carson wentz. Wait till you see what he can do the evanston it for a bit but wait until you see him back back. It's going to be nice but when you talk about the detroit. Lions moving on from stafford not tagging. Golladay i know the conversation was they. Were going to keep them around for another year but feels like this. Let's go ahead and restart got new owner okay. We new way of doing things. We all communicate here skype. Start from the ground up. Yeah we got offering quarterback we get it because he came with the think but let's go ahead and build this thing from the ground. Maybe expected out this point but this is good for thirty one other teams that kenny. Golladay hell is gonna throw is dan cam. We're going to suit up and then being up there. Coaching pinson dude and got tj. Considering i watched a couple of clips from bussing with the boys with him he looks awesome guy on the team that i'm on i short. What's that. They just signed tarot williams to offer. Oakland left oakland. Okay here we go. I'm thinking whose team really why isn't run the ball by can you on that team. Were you not here for the experience that area now. No but here's absolutely understand. Dan unbelievable football guy. They're gonna be biting off kneecaps. Unfortunately the score did it played in the same division as aaron rodgers. They don't have a chance. Yeah we agree. But they're planning for q one two two twenty twenty six twenty twenty and fair building hoping is that they actually give motorcity dc. The i mean the the leeway to get this thing done. Because i tell you what it'd be a real shame if they go to and fifteen next year and just in And what. I'm saying all right. It is much non. That mc dc slander k. By the toxic table slam huge lines guy. Just trying to look at the whole game comes back in here. No and sway your opinion. No smoking big. Forget what it was like. Talking to dan campbell. That's what i'm saying. I'm a huge dad campbell guy. I love the lines that means but they may go to fifteen situation is troubling right. Get about watched. Jared goff joining us. Now is a man who's been waiting around for too long while we talk about. This guy was former general manager in the nfl daily newsletter writer for the daily coach. He has the gm shuffle podcast. He works for visa san. He's gotta lombardi line lombardi line. This guy works harder than any human. I've ever encountered and i think he writes also for the athletic ladies and gentlemen michael and back with how are you. That is a great. You look good. You look very good right now. Coach thank you and you know. I put the fourth out you know. It's the fourth thing scenic work. This season is impossible. You know during the season on twenty. Five eighty brass. You know i. I am unhappy. Because i eat. Because i'm not go. He's very clear it's great to have you back on here. I feel like. I learned so much every time we talk right now. There's a lot of decisions being made around the nfl. You're in a of those conversations with every job that you've ever had in the nfl which is basically all of them Jerry jones pays dak prescott seventy five million dollars next year. Hundred twenty six and fully guarantees one hundred and sixty four can go up to intermodal. No trade clause no tag provision this if you think back to last year and include the franchise tag is a five year deal ultimately from when the dallas cowboys in deck had the four year. Five year discrepancy. But with this amount of money being paid to dak. Prescott is this jerry jones telling the world that the salary cap is going to move up much more than we thought with the media deal or is this just him trying to deal done as fast as possible. I think this is surrender. I think the white flag went up in dallas. And this is surrender. I think he had no choice. But the surrender. He wasn't going to play the game. Mahomes deal came in at forty five million in watson. Steel comes in at thirty nine jerry trapped. He really had no leverage even jerry. You know the way jerry acts behaves he said look. I don't have a chance that he had dacca's all the leverage and so he made a deal. You know he overpaid. He could have done a deal probably earlier but he thought he had leverage at that point. This is a miscalculation of leverage enacted. Brilliantly taught france nice job of understanding where the market was going. Never doing a deal before mahomes. Never doing a deal. Before watson waiting letting them escalate the market and then taking advantage of it and i do think based on the tv revenues that are going to come in and how impactful these new tv contracts will be the cap logo up. I think we'll we're in a little bit of a depression every state this year but next year or the year after this contract will be able to be adaptable within his framework. Yeah the renegotiating of tv deals because there's a seventeenth game and the extra wildcard weekend games. I mean there's more product of available for people to buy in people are going to buy the nfl. so jerry jones also part of that negotiation. I believe what the media. But let's talk back to todd france that you just said there. His agent is their agents around the nfl. That gm's no like okay. Came out taught for instance. His thing is getting the most amount of money for his clients. or whatever. Is there some agents who reputation maybe perceived them a little bit or is there. Is there guys that gm's no like okay. This is gonna be a battle. I mean you do know that. But i think you have to be able to put yourself in the other person's shoes right. I mean that was what al davis she talked about. All the time is you gotta think the person who negotiating against what is his leverage. And i think jerry miscalculated the leverage that was going to have because you know if less he was willing to say goodbye to dak and go on with another quarterback he really had no choice in once he franchised on then he got into this really bad cycle and he knew what was going to go down and he couldn't get france to say yes mean last year france was never going to say yes because france knew that watson was coming up. Fresh knew that mahomes was coming up. So he's going to let them carry him to the finish line and basically take advantage of those contracts and he did a great job with an injury. I don't think really ever really thought that was going to be the case. But i mean jerry. Sydney say look. You're not the other than russell wilson. He makes thirty three million in theory. That's correct in theory. that's absolutely correct in reality. it's not because in the negotiating quarterback contracts. It's just that's the way it goes it next person up is the next person if you're going to put them into that. World water seeks. It's level right so if you're free freedom means if i can get to the finish freedom why i'm going to get rewarded for going there and there's no discount for waiting that long so yeah. I think jerry miscalculated that one and look gotta deal jerry one about jerry. Now he's gone cash he can print it can write checks pretty quickly. My hands donkey crazed job of saving money. There as the cowboys spends a lot every year that they've done a good job of holding back and their cash outlay isn't as high as people think every single year. Well that's fascinating because it does feel like they pay somebody the biggest contract every other year at a different position and now they get the deal done which is a massive question mark around the cowboys future. Even though it's only for four years who knows what mike mccarthy is going to do with that let's pivot out of dallas and let's go to las vegas. I know you have some thoughts. Jon gruden. john. And mike may over there. At the raiders. They are making decisions. Now that tana make previous decisions not look great. They seem to be in trouble with the cap issue. They got all their offensive lineman out there. Now what do you think's going on in las vegas and how do you see this playing out long-term if you had to guess you know i think look i might may aucas really hard situation. Because he's working for a coach that is really not the best personnel guy. He's impatient he wants veterans. He falls in love and out of love quickly. I mean if he was on match dot com he would would be constantly rolling over. Constantly he falls law falls download. It's just gruden's nature. It's like if you literally give players in april by nato hate him by june traded it. How motivates himself. I wrote about it in gridiron genius. John as a coach is a good coach. john is an offensive. Coordinator is a good coach. John running your entire operation. What we're seeing in. Las vegas is the result of a guy that doesn't understand the big picture he can't put all the pieces together. Go back and read is quotes about lamarcus joyner. When he signed in they they made no sense like you signing an undersized five nine guy who's going to cover travis kelsey seriously you're gonna pay them all. This money seriously made no sense because the big picture of how to build a team is way different for coach an executive so much mike mayock though has no out here right because if he says i want to kind of take over that dude. He's being paid much less and gruden was one that got him hired right now. He works for gruden. I mean what we don't want to understand is john lynch. I don't mean to sit any disrespected. John lynch the geology. Is john lynch works for kyle shanahan mic. Mac works for jon gruden. I mean that's the way it is. And i worked for bill belichick and i was happy to do that. I didn't tell belichick wants to do why not right. That's the role you play. But what happens is ballot check. Well listen you could say bill. I don't think this is the right thing. Valid checks more of a big picture once the discount. He's the warren buffett of this. He wants to get cheaper. John wants to guy now. One of my one of my one of my in love with throw william side have non in love with nelson aguilar sign hip like you can't run a team like that. And then when you don't draft pick colin farrell fourth pick overall the draft you pick abrahams in the twenty s. He can't cover anybody at safety. Where are we going with this. Like where is the blueprint. Where's the plan on how we're going to title as where's the plant and right now derek. Cars are quarterback and everybody saying he's going to get an extension or whatever and then as soon as russell wilson's available year. A bunch of raiders. Fans like if we can get russell wilson. Hey let's do that. And i was soon gruden's the same way. Fuck in russell wilson. Let's try to do that. Will place a question mark right now. Yeah i mean he's he's very reactionary. There's no there's no plan look. He's got a ten year contract. He's got mixed ten million a year he walks in there. He really should have walked in with a plan. Here's how we're going to build this team. Here's how we're going to just dramatically build this team inch by by inch but instead he's grasping and pulling things around you'll see next year. They'll all the guys they size a year before. When are you know the linebacker mcaliskey whom our they signed. You know they're going to end up cutting those guys because they're going to be overvalued he has to get it under. He needs a strong personnel guy. That will say john. We can't do that. He needs needs michael lombardi. I would rather have twenty hours of now in one day. Do possible to deal with you. How do you know this. How do you know this. I work with john in philadelphia. I work with john in oakland and john in oakland was al davis was in between john. John couldn't make any decisions on personnel in oakland. Unless signed off on it or unless we all signed off on it you know when we signed jerry rice al. Al was not as with doing that. Because it was going to affect your james jet but we all agreed he would be a better player so acquiesced to us so there is there was. There was a lot of hurdles to go through but look at look at john independently in tampa in his drafts valuation. Look at john and oakland and his the draft evaluations and in las vegas that that says somebody like i need how building his team and what he wants. He wants to just he wanted. He wants it. And that doesn't how you build championships. You have to think of this job as a stockbroker as a money manager. That's what you are your high profile money manager and if you keep making a mistake but think about this pack grew thirty million over three years avenue all the contracts up. They've given out with draft picks and these free agents that have caught. It's it's gotta be over one hundred fifty million zip in worth it well right now. I assume. A lot of raiders fans questioning. That know that you. John had history like that is i wrote about him in my book and i respect does he does he. Does he hate you. I don't know it doesn't really matter valuing. I'm one thing about. I tell people what's up. I wrote the book. I have personal freedom. I really don't care because it's all on paper right. If you want to disagree with it not you can do whatever you want. I wrote it. It's where i believe. But john and i gave john look. Giants coach is really good. John motivation himself through convincing himself as though players. Look at these guys. they're giving me to play with. I can't win with the scott when we were in philly together. Every player in green bay was great. We had no players. Now we have ricky watters. Charlie gardener irving fryar jason. Don a bunch of guys that were good players. But i got to open them with them. Silly had group players. We have no good players. So it's just the way he motivates himself and that's really good but if you do that you got to have somebody to stop him from. Hold on. Hold on with you saying that. Now i've never met younger and so but with you saying that whole thing like got no players that's probably how the rumor started that he hates. Derek carr right out assume that he sent our guy. Does this instead of this in. That's probably somebody who's never been around moves like this is. This is probably That makes a of sense on how out there when he. He's very emotional. He's he's a lot like he's awesome on monday football. There's an old this is. This is who. There's a great basketball coach. You should get him on your show sometime. He's tremendous larry brown. He lives in charlotte. Now he is tremendous. I love larry brown death. I learned a lot talking to him. But larry brown is a lot like john's lot. Like larry brown the very impulsive and when they wanna make decisions rapidly. Larry brown was the head basketball coach at the denver nuggets in the aba and he was going to the nba and he wanted to get bigger stronger players. So he wanted. George mcginnis from the seventy sixers and he was on al atlases but his general manager to trade. For george mcginnis finally two years later they trade george mcginnis. They gave bobby jones and a first round pick. They get george mcginnis after the first practice. George mcginnis larry comes off the court. Says we've gotta get rid of. He's not good enough that's awesome. It's awesome and it's interesting to hear that that's potentially happening around the nfl graciously on earth about to have a two hundred and fifty million dollar salary cap now. There is some breaking news mike. I'd like to hear your reaction to this. Alan robinson has been tagged by the chicago bears. This chicago bears still. Don't have their quarterback situation figured out. They are allegedly in for the shawn. Watson therein for russell wilson ryan pace their gm said. I'm keeping all options on the table. Quarterback they now franchise tag allen robinson who allegedly turned down a sixteen million dollar a year. Deal to go back to chicago one year more and more year for an incredibly talented wide receiver on a team. That could potentially go up in flames next year or be good again. I mean it is no idea what's going to happen. You let this move or hate this move buys on. I think you've gotta protect your team right. I think you'd have two camera with some with the jaguars. He worked thirteen seven no but to replace him. It's going to be a lot more. Alan robinson's the same thing. He doesn't want sixteen million fine. We'll give them the franchise number at less will random for year and we'll go on with life. I think it's probably the smart move. You protect yourself. Hunter henry out in los angeles load of money. It's cheaper just to franchise against the team of year and then they could see where the cap is now. Restricts you cap wise in terms of what you want to do but overall building your you're renting this player for a year and you have the right to trade him if you want. If somebody wants to come in you could hold his rights. If somebody wants out robinson you've got a chance you own is rice. You could trade the trade. They have to deal with you first. So it's a smart play. I think if you can do it now when you tell you this much cap bears and you still need a quarterback you got to solve that problem someway hunter. Henry has been officially notified. The he'll be released from the chargers. So they're not gonna franchise. Kim but when you talk about. He's going to be like he's going to be the prettiest girl in school gonna want everybody's gonna want to. He will be a huge free agent signing because the tight end position in pro. Football is somewhere to control the middle field. There's so many guys that want that so you know. I think he's going to be yonder. Henry is a lucky guy right now. Okay so alan robinson's franchise tag will be higher than the standard wide receiver price costing the bears. Seventeen point eight million dollars. This is just coming out right now. It says because of his twenty. Twenty compensation alan robinson's tag will be higher than a standard wide receiver price. That's being tracked. who has. What does that mean well. I don't know what that means. He's gotta get one hundred twenty percent or the franchise number. So he gets by franchise. Okay the franchise tag. Let's go back to that because the way you were talking about how. It's a one year rental and then we can't afford what he's going to because he was asking eighteen a year. So this is a one hundred and twenty thousand dollars cheaper than i guess. But it's only one though it's cheaper in a sense. I don't have to give you cash. Upfront i pay you. I'll tell you what it's like renting a home. I don't have to put a down payment down. I commend you. Sign the tender. You'll get one seventeenth of that. My you'll get a million dollars a game basically to play and then when the season's over though i have no dead money following you life goes on. It's a rental. It's like it's how we get into rental homes. You know it's just easier. Players hate to franchise tag is. It's not long term stability listening to you. Talk about the franchise tag from general manager standpoint. That's never going to be something that gets removed from the cba. I don't think i don't think it will be. I mean it's obviously going to be an for ten years. It does the players. Well look every quarterback russell wilson they're all benefiting from the dak prescott contract you know. Look aaron rodgers sitting in green bay or wherever sitting right now saying like wait a minute. Wait a minute snacks. Making women just got forty one and thirty three seven five million dollars this year. Cessation mr murphy. You know so. I think i think that that's even though the flyers complain about it in a long term it creates water to secrets level. It rises the tie around dan. That's how he got digs mike. You talked about hunter henry. Prettiest girl in the market. Now that godwin and robinson have been tagged golladay is the best wide receiver on the market. Where's he gonna go. You know. I mean look good. That'll be the highest bidder. Wherever whatever and again you know. Who's got the money jacksonville. They need a receiver. You put olive with jacksonville with dj chart alongside of them. They've got the kind of cap room to handling. The jets could use golladay. New england could go after golladay obviously got coercion. Their coach dominoes him really well. They need an outside receiver to. I think you've gotta follow the line of who has salary cap. Who is who has the room to do that. Because it's gonna be expensive now don't minimize. Some teams teams can create catholic. That's the one thing we've learned through this twenty five years of the cap you wanna play you ingredient. Kako now. which have to be able to do is you need about five or six million dollars of room in your cap. The side of the draft picks. So as you go along you got to keep that in mind. you know. the raiders. Right now are three million. Oh under the cap right. They trade trent brown visited to the patriots. They'd pick up fourteen million dollars. They're now learned seventy. That does some room. Those ivy laura on cap friendly deal for this year to pay him a lot of money but they still have room for the draft mike. You're the best. Thank you so much for joining us. Today you're the greatest appreciates thanks much. Listen real quick question whenever wrapping these conversations up you are the fastest to hang you hang up before is it just because you got i mean you want me to stay on and say goodbye to do good yeah got hey we got a minute and a half real quick lombardi. I worked ten years row. Dave's he never said goodbye. The the only way you knew the phone call was over was when you heard the click and i'm deaf in one ear. So sometimes i didn't hear the click. I would stay on that phone five minutes literally. Like if i hear the click. I waste five minutes. Hello sir well. We experience that on the other side as general mike. Thank you mike. Most is have tried a lot of different ways to you know try to last lube longer and making love baseball team. That's boring sport. 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This is massive. This is good for players. Everywhere dares i said earlier i want everybody get paid a billion dollars. Thanks keep pushing it up man. I don't even understand why it was the compensation. Obviously we know how it is. Whatever the market says god worth it dak. If you didn't that draft over again he'll be number one pick overall so if you look at it from that lens. It's the number one overall pink getting his money far too late. In my opinion. I think dallas kind of tricked off the situation. It could have paid him a couple of years ago but he got his money. He got paid on the franchise tag last year. Obviously and hopefully he keeps getting better. And we'll see if cowboys to be actual contender going down a lie. It's definitely everybody. Kinda saw this one coming whenever the dallas cowboys delayed payment to him and everybody realizing saw what other quarterbacks were making my thing is this this is what a lot of people immediate reaction is that prescott coming off of that gruesome injury or you just banking that. He'll be the exact same quarterback or better afterwards. Is that what everybody's just banking science technology. We got this shit. This ain't a problem yeah. I'm not worried about that. He's a pretty horrible guy. Didn't miss any games. I was the first time this time basov injury was a nasty kind of one of those plays but i think that could be fine. I think you'll be saying going forward. It's not like he's a lamar jackson. Type guy who. S a big part of his game scrambling needs to a pocket pass and he's been getting better over the years. Okay whenever you look at a quarterback like that prescott nine years in the. Nfl played very high level corner and safety. All right when you look at a quarterback like dak prescott. What is it about him that you think like. Yeah he should get that type of elite money versus maybe another quarterback who should not get seventy five million dollars in one year. I mean he's a. He's a top ten quarterback and so once he got. I mean we've seen over the years guys get paid leave money. That weren't you know. Elite talent jimmy g. was the highest paid quarterback. One time matt stafford hurt because he's got eighty four guarantee so let's bunch of guys who weren't necessarily elite elite but they got their money so i think you know it's the same when it comes when it comes a day like i said it should happen us a book on the field. He's a he's a. He's a above average. Quarterback is a good starting quarterback. And it's not like he's you know we'll be on. His promise has got us twenty seven years old so you expect him to continue to grow. You've got weapons around gussie. Land got one hundred million dollars. You got callup got you gotta own line. I can piece back together. You've got weapons around him. Everything around him night for him if he's successful so our bet on him continuing to do you think mike mccarthy's guy that's gonna take the cowboy super bowl. Let's go. hey big guy. He found the sledgehammer season. I mean here we go. I'm not confident. In mike took more people speak highly of he got the job he had to be Dot pretty highly of because he got that note quarterback job quarterback coach shop fresh off. A plane basically retired quarterbacks coach in the next year you continue on be the coordinator so they obviously got a lot of faith in him in that building. So maybe his mind and mike mccarthy can come together and just the things going but i think that having that guy having pay not only just the money like what it does for that locker room. Obviously that lock group loves them. You find funny doing right. By your franchise guy so hopefully i kinda resonates. Throughout their locker room. They started create some type one coach overdue deal. Whenever you see everybody else get paid but your quarterback you have to have some questions even if you love dak prescott you have to think yourself is the long are we getting. They get into business for a long term together. Somebody told schefter an inside source that he thought this was jerry. Jones tipping off. How big this media deal is coming with how everybody's cutting players right now because salary cap question marks or whatever and now he's paying a guys seventy five million dollars next year. He is a large part of the negotiation for the media deal. Have you heard some of these numbers that are coming out for some of these deals the nfl in five years. It is alleged at the salary. Cap is going to be two hundred fifty million dollars. It's unbelievable right now. But they are they are taking over everything. Every dollar in the sports world is somehow funneling to the nfl. It feels like you see a lot of a lot of these numbers trinite down everywhere else. Nfl you know there. It continued trend up. No it's still america's game You know people people love the game. So that money's gonna keep coming in. I wouldn't i mean if somebody knows jerry would know and that'll be hilarious if he's really are here for the other owners like cutting bait in and trying to shit fat on the grocer. And he's taught that earlier like jerry. What jerry's going into like the zoom calls or whatever with every other earn like it feels like it's going to be and then just immediately as soon as zoom goes off goes into another zoom with dax agent. Everything out more money than any motherfuckers ever been paid. It'd be awesome if that's how that whole. Thanks out fisherman. I saw a report that came out. I want to say yesterday before deal came out saying like i think it was from jones's saying that that has all the leverage with some data. And then next thing you know he gets to do and if you look at it do i mean like you said seventy five year one and he's back at the table at the latest thirty one years old so i mean no trade clause no tag klaus. I mean this was just a i mean. It's hard to poke any holes in your honesty from dak standpoint shout back we have a guy guidance office. They knit. You know nick hockey nick. Nick is immediately going to look for the potential negative view on things the source that jerry is tipping his Hand at how. Big the medial is jerry trying to cover up for getting hosted by dak prescott. Is that what you up beautifully. Yeah i'm getting taken to the cleaners. Here pap don't worry on the back end we've got tons of money. Coming in from espn nbc. Whatever doesn't matter don't care. He said that's a spins on of that whole thing very interesting very very interesting. If that's the case and some critical bigger right there who jerry jerry. Smart may knows how to finance the media. Put out what he wants. Oh and that's why we talked about. The deck has all the leverage the other day. It's like that's normally coming from somebody. That probably has the leverage. Now that i think about it but this is an interesting time We got a lot of shit popping off around the nfl. Chris godwin franchise tag down tampa. We talked to him about that. He basically said like a business is how it is or whatever. He gets a chance to stay down with. Tom brady for another year. Obviously it doesn't a long term deal that he's worth But it gets a one year franchise tag guarantee here. This is a good move for the tampa bay buccaneers. I think right yeah. I'm very good. Move very good keeping a beautiful one more year of receiver last year. Down the stretch you know didn't play as well but what he's what he's seeing. He's continued got better year. You're out so it's a good move for them. Keeping them keeping them in at least one more year trying to run it back. Trent brown goes back to the patriots. Las vegas trades for trent brown trades. Trent brown out of town. They cut and get rid of like six people that you know of on the raiders. I'm excited to see how that team looks next year. But bill belichick now sixty seven million dollars in cap space trading for the guy back that he let leave town. What is going on in new england. How do you see this thing ended. Sounds like a potential afc championship honor. I know conners come on. Let's call okay. I've got shrimp franchise. Franchisee guard over here to who was supposed to be a pretty good player. We'll see franchise. They did not frame instant. Now they check off. They chose to breaking news on my line. Aw hey you got a loop is is treacherous out. How killed out here. Job for biard gridiron. Divas yesterday off did we. That is now listen. I do think they take a lot of. I think they take a lot of hats. They're covering everything but boy there's been a couple that they've gotten us into some real shit. Jarido yeah yeah pizzi. Magic was retiring and infants. Magic wasn't retired. I mean. I get dmz from people. Like i never said what you're saying. The graph it was a wild day while they there's a lot of people. Kenny golladay is going to be a free agent of the allen. Robinson probably going to be a free agent it gets franchise tag. Guess could still happen but with these weapons that you have to have. If you're a team that needs weapons. What should they be looking for you. Think in the wide receiver what for carson wentz for instance is a cultural quick need a wide receiver. What type of wide receiver do we need for carson wentz. You think to make him better. I mean you need a guy with a big catch radius and also can't create separation not many guys around and walking around like that. I've got today's one of them out of rama's definitely one of those guys can make even when they're covered they're open. And if you've got a quarterback. I think carson's good enough for those weapons around him to be a good quarterback but if you've got a big body guyau also create separation and consistently win one on ones. That's what you want even if the guy's not digs. He creates some separation droughts. That's gonna make a quarterback quarterback better. You're gonna see whatever quarterbacks goal. You wish your quarterback i do. Should this money man. You seventy five and one year. The immediately following by the way. One of the most gruesome injuries. We've ever seen like i. I love that got paid but there was no way in fucking hell. I thought he was going to get the money he just no way. I thought there was no chance. Because if you're not going to be in that number two spot. I didn't know just because what the salary cap question. Everybody had obviously dallas doesn't pay him is they're going to be another team. That's gonna be like okay. We don't know this guy you thought so. Oh yeah via market you got it on. The market will probably more but it was only it was only after. That injury is quarterback like you said. I mean we see guys terror you know. Acl's and achilles all type of injuries and come back in. And you know been elected twenty-seven-year-old quarterback you know what i mean. It's not like a lot of his game. It's so two for almost five thousand yards healthy. It's not a lot of his game on. Scrammed been outside the pocket so absolute and that team fell apart really after he got hurt. His people are actually saying andrew did you. Did you see before. And then after what happened was i'd actually like a percentage of the star. I think we would. Actually we'd like the top little triangle of the star. That is where we think we deserve in this entire thing Diba we appreciate you joining us. Man appreciate oh always fun. What are you doing on. i see. you're teasing something about sam darnold. Because he said that he stinks a quarterback. It sounds like you've done some research automotive not actually exactly what got me to the lab. Sam darnold stinks actually said that to danner lousy raving about you know sam. Darnold's everything you know. Hey let me tell you about this. Forty thousand picks. But i'm gonna tell you why and what could potentially be great goal force. Hey look santa ana stakes. It'd be better if you. I say you know what i don't like to say guys stink without actually digging their during a deep dive so he's the guy started with obviously just picking soccer draft so it's a lot of questions about should they stay with him. Should they go to new college guy. So i'm jumping in level. Sam darnold answers get some answers to the people and this will be at darius jay. This'll this'll be on my social berge butler on twitter instagram. Also everything db and on menem airpods wherever you follow. Because i've done all the film. Study sam darnold. Add my own thoughts. I can't wait to hear yours with each other's brains. I did not watch all of his films so well. You do the film watching. I'm gonna watch and that's probably going to be pretty influential into my thoughts into sam darnold so a lot of pressure there. Let's go ahead and do this right. I got we got that coming up. We got wherever start putting out. Polls and i would like to say this as somebody who was a team with darius legitimately one of the smartest football players walking this earth. I got a chance to experience this in team meetings chocolate. Ask questions to the defense. It would normally get passed around to a couple people. No answer no answer call. A friend darius comes in in we should do about a bond judge right darioush when somebody darioush these questions right. Does the next one and the same thing happened over and over again. So i think a massive part of your game was actually film. Study right like you're you're basically smarter than everybody on the field. I was everybody had to have had to put that work. You had confidence about their make. Plays anticipate things as db garden julio's. Abc's the deandra hockey and you can't just be out there just trying to okay. I'm a guard. Everything got anticipation themes to eliminate certain things based off concept splits. All this stuff is so so. I love that part of the game. A lot of players do some players. Don't but i love that part of the game. It would be awesome if your athletic enough. Like if i could one day do that to walk up to. Julio on like a sunday game be like whatever you got today do. I'm the line and lining lineup. Whatever julio julio shit different stay up a little later watch a little more film. Eleven out there. I cannot wait to see what your film study says about. Sam darnold ladies and gentlemen derek. 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I guess what dates from from the shirt that i'm wearing you know because that's really all you see most boy. There's a couple of times where i've worn the same shirt close to like maybe every four they are every day or something like that really gets me fucked up. I'm like wait a minute. Is this one now. It's from two days ago got it is. It's difficult deciding what shirt to wear Especially i mean. We got a shirt coming out. That has connor's face on it. I'm gonna start wearing that one. I think that's going to be one. I'm gonna get going but you're right. The arnold classic has been a classic for you. We appreciate you joining us. How about that prescott. Getting one hundred in sixty million dollars. Hundred and twenty six guaranteed seventy five million dollars next year. How do you feel about this love. Seeing somebody get paid but this is insane to look at. It's absolutely insane. But it's not shocking. I guess it's surprising a little bit. Maybe i don't know. I think how much got how much he got. How he kinda set new records. That may be a bit surprising to people. But hey like when's this going to be beat. It'll be beat soon right when maybe when rod gets an extension here. Get more prettier year. Whatever i just goes isn't it. If aaron rodgers gets seventy six million dollars of one year just not just but aside from outside businesses doing that type of thing for you and football is the only thing doing that. I am fucking. They're saying two hundred and fifty million dollars salary. I've said like three times today because right. Now it's one hundred eighty one or something like that. Projected two hundred and fifty million dollar projected salary cap five years from now holy the. Nfl is printing cash. At this point. It is unbelievable and dakyns agent. Todd france absolutely one on this situation. He's going to be a free agent when he's thirty one if he plays the whole deal after three years probably gonna renegotiated mark day and give them more upfront money. And he can't get tagged so he becomes a free agent at the age of thirty one after hopefully winning some games now and the next four years now. Big mike down there is going to turn that team right back around a little bit sideways. Donner last year. At one point during the off season you have to remember one year ago now dak prescott back one year ago a sports pundit a man that talks about the nfl every single day had the dallas. Cowboys are super bowl. Renders i asked. Do you still feel that same way right now with that being back. Aj hawk are still feel good about my pick last season and wouldn't have gone down with. It'd probably won the whole thing man. Thank you you wouldn't have had a boat parade or you wouldn't even need to the watermelons either. You wouldn't need any la. What are the the question is. What are the cowboys. Do with zeke. Deal in another year or two. What happens to the rest of their teeth. Well that's the big question. And that was kind of the whole conversation revolved around whether or not they'll pay him. It's like is now. is you paid everybody else. We paid back because if you do that. That's always gonna affect other now. Mike lombardi just told us set their cash. Output or cash flow is actually better than people. Think i don't know how that's possible. Because they pay. The lombardi knows more about that than i do. I don't know how they're going to build the team around deck. I don't know how they're going to continue to win. But i'm fucking pop back that money. I hope it continues to happen. It's like the rams though. They paid their wide receiver. They're running back to pay their quarterback. They didn't let go. I mean all three of them but they go cokes and girly before they like all golf so they paid. They paid wide receiver. Paid the running back. They pay the d. Tackle corner then. They played paid their quarterback than they had to cut everybody and then give horseback somehow. Some teams are able to manipulate cap better than others. The chiefs have been able to do it at an incredibly efficient manner being able to lock everybody up. I don't know if the dallas cowboys are gonna be able to do the same or not. But there's this jerry talking about what the salary cap going to do we are. we underestimating. Are we overestimating the salary cap. That's coming because everybody seems to be cutting and trade in and trying to get on the salary cap in jerry. Jones sign big deals this jerry. No more than everybody else. Aj really yeah. Anything i've read over the years when there was owners. Think about when all the owners in the room together or they're negotiating with the tv networks. Whatever they're doing they said jerry's like one of the ringleaders think about he's been around for so long you such a high profile guy. I think he's one of the main dudes that can speak in other owners. Actually listen to them. But what if he wasn't speaking and they didn't have a chance to listen and he was not telling him about the salary cap because people just cutting c. See you gotta renegotiate you stink. You're out have a good one you're going to be on the market and then all of a sudden jerry's like old horses was paying more money because these folks don't know what's going on. Imagine if they do if that thing goes from like one eighty one projected to like one ninety two hundred next year. That would change everything people. Well we cut a bunch it will. It has to do with the new. Tv deals coming out. Well that's what you would think. What this jerry. Jones deal is okay. The salary caps going to go up a lot more than anybody could have predicted out. Assume in jerry feels comfortable doing this interesting because just a few days ago we living in a world where everybody's like they get paid at. All guys are going to get cut because they sell caps not gonna move. It's like what is this saying. Something different is saying the salary caps going up. Do you think that's why we really. I mean we call them. This massacre monday massacre week and really. It doesn't seem like we've got the bloodshed that they were expecting. We even created something four massacre week like expecting whatever something gets titled bhaskar week. We made something for when it came and it was a great. Keep done around even after mascow. It won't be massacre week though. So we'll just have to take off the massacre. Just mashing on me and i feel for the the strictly the serious listeners. Didn't get to see that beautiful graphic as well. Yeah shameless i on a lot. But we get a chance to. Hopefully you know. Penetrate their cars busy. We appreciate your listening for sure. You did miss out on good graphic though. It involves a grim reaper. Pretty good graphics and everything like that digs has an update. I was just looking at the salary cap so from two thousand twelve to last year it went up ten million dollars at least ten million dollars every single year so in the next five years like if it starts at two thirty would be the lowest that you would think to fifty being pretty pretty good. Yeah i mean it's going to be the amount of money these dudes and ladies obviously sorry but dudes just in general these dudes at the nfl. I'm that you get these dudes at the. Nfl turned a year where they weren't supposed to have a season into a season where they had no fans in games in generated a profit bigger than they ever have in their entire. Life is fucking unbelievable. It's because i guess because there's no competition. I mean fan crazed. Football's push in Thomas dewey dwayne johnson is doing his thing over at xfl and whatever but they're the biggest show in town vaneau it. There's no competition people are always gonna love the nfl and they walk into these networks and be like last year down here so you know what that means. You're fucking girl. Good pick up. you're going to do. That's that's how it's good double it last time. Okay doublet. i'll you don't want okay. Jeff bezos all right. Don't worry about worry. We've had a great relationship. We love everything you've done. I don't worry about it. we're going to go. Yeah you can't use it for any of your shows either okay. We're going to go all you will. That's interesting you found the money now. Okay now we're done with this and we gotta go somewhere else and do the same conversation. Hey how you doing you want exist. Yeah ok well double. That's how it is though it feels like legitimate holidays and there's nothing anybody can do about it. It's like they're right there. One hundred percent right. It's the nfl. The nfl is king when it comes to appointment watching tv that people will sit around and actually watch it. One of the last people talk about all the time. But don't you think throughout this whole process with kobe and putting the season on being profitable and they're gonna probably double their tv rights. They have to feel untouchable. I'm sure you've already had a high level of competence. But now they have to feel like there's nothing we can't handle. They probably walk into those meetings. Sit down in a slow fashion because a lot of very old. They probably put their feet upon desks. And they say with hocus. I soon they have cowboy boots on in my head. They were wearing cowboy boots. Okay just so not to help us gave. They're wearing to health. Is i understand because they are incredibly comfortable in all whites by the way who can't get to that. But i assume they put their legs up on the desk and say we the fucking greatest ever what we are the smartest human to ever exist. Pandemic live events shutdown. Nobody made money. We doubled our revenue. Is there anybody fucking better than us. No probably do that whole thing. They have to at this point. It's unbelievable and by the way it's because the product is so impressive. The players coaches the games. Everything about is just so good. We were lucky but not as lucky. The nfl owners. If you get lucky enough to own one of those teams. Yeah i would imagine. Those guys have always felt pretty untouchable but now after a season like this. I mean you might see jerry. Kill someone and his boat or something just not knowing what's going on because he is untouchable just because he enter what thoughts and opinions and ideas of those that are on this show do not reflect that of their employer at that. I'm not saying it will happen. I'm just saying you could see how guy could forget you know. Think he's in a lawless country Out at sea somewhere. Jerry doesn't already do that. Oh there are some. There are some jerry jones store. He was guy. I mean if you own an nfl team yeah. It is at this point. You are sitting on a cash cow. It's not just like a couple thousand bucks a week because of a car wash cash cow. I'm talking like a cash. Cow is always going to find more and more value somehow in this world that everything seems to be depreciating and their world. They're just finding a way to garner more and more cash for the same shit they've always done and then they add a game. Oh we're there's more than other game. I mean it is unbelievable to think about this whole thing when got covert now. None of us are cap experts in here but the capitals one ninety eight this year a normal world would have been like to eight is what we have to worry about in the basement of the the cap in that. The number of ceiling is the roof the ceiling shoutout jordan. But i think the basement is where you have to worry about isn't it. I don't know but like next year. Does it go back to normal. Like since it's one year with full revenue back like does it goes back over two hundred or is it going to be like one ninety five next year so because they said there was conversations with the pa in the nfl. Separate this or divert this over. The next ten years is in the. Nfl will find some way to get into the top shots. They're going to be satisfying brown once. They topped thinking that odell. The nfl's like thank you. That's another ten billion real videos. What is it an f. T. not for me. Yes it is here the fucking amount of money people are paying. It's only a matter of time for the nfl funds new ways to make. It's just the way it's unbelievable any pet if if you nhl owner and you're watching all this and you're seeing what the nfl is able to do like how how jealous are you. They're trying to work out a new. Tv deal with whoever right and see what's the money like nhl tv deal compared to nfl. I would assume that that is quite a situation and just said you talked about how everything is relative. You know if if you think somebody's rich you should see that person hanging around somebody that's actually rich and it is just a whole different ballgame. You know if you if you think. Somebody's trying to be good at some point so they play somebody else's everything is is relative. I would assume that if the nhl owners hang out with the nfl owners. The nfl owners have quite a laugh. I assume the nfl owners have quite a lot but the gel owner still much wealthier than any of us ever will be. So it's like it's all relative to us. You know they can. They can probably feel pretty good but they walk into jerry's office and i get this fucking what's your problem. Aj got the nhl to hide its product to really potentially bad for business. They should change that if they want to. Even get in the conversation with the nfl. it's definitely not all of them either. But don't several. Nfl owners just said like fuck it. I'll buy nhl franchise to a couple of own. The nfl team is the gold plate and the nhl team is kind of. Just you know the joining us now. Somebody that works for the nfl. A by the way biz never going on this. No no no She's report located in dallas for the nfl Ladies and gentlemen going on what's up. I wish that i could. I wouldn't have to suppress my natural use of the f. word in the context of i reporting throughout the day like i. I really have to channel dark side. So i love that. You guys are able to do that so freely here. Well i appreciate you saying that because there's a lot of people that do not like that we do it. The louder say it is a great word. And there's a video from bob explaining how you can use it in every different context. But i will say there are people that hate that we use it so. I'm thankful that you enjoy. Let's dive right into it. Though jane dak prescott hundred and sixty million up one hundred sixty four one hundred and twenty six seventy five million next year just a week ago they were nowhere close. Then jerry was saying dak had all the leverage. How did this come together jane. How did this happen. Nobody could have seen this happening. I don't know. I thought what was interesting last week. Was when i 'cause i've covered this. As a very exhausting off season storyline the fact that the two sides were actually talking. This time of the year was in my opinion of big deal. The fact that i was told that prescott was working out at the facility. Nearly every day to me was a big deal. Because if you feel so disrespected by your owners and you don't want to run into them really elsewhere so that was interesting to me. Every time i reached out to another player's agent to see if they'd started restructuring. Or i asked if they were talking about free agents and the possibility of the back would would be. I kept being told. A singular focus was getting duct prescott signs. And if they couldn't get him signed they were still going to apply that very costly franchise tag and still work on that and of course the goal was by march seventeenth. Have some sort of deal in place so that we could actually be meaningful shoppers and free agency. Now when i say meaningful i'm not saying. Expect big splash. We have not seen that recent years. I'm saying a couple of guys on one year veteran minimum. Still some of the obvious issues. They had from a depth perspective probably offensive line and defense. But it just felt like this thing was moving in the right direction and then on monday checked in a couple of times and still nothing. I'm on my way to yoga and then airpods out as a friend is calling the saying. I think it's done and it looks like it got done around four o'clock now dak prescott supposed to have a press conference tomorrow so we'll be able to ask him some of the intricacies but it's not unlike jerry jones did get involved in this at some point and i think he's got some idea of what these tv dollars they're going to look. Okay joe so you don't wanna start having negotiated deal. That's just gonna keep going up. You talked about lamar jackson. And of course josh allen are going to happen at some point could have gotten back done two years ago. Would we scoffed at thirty million and now here we are at forty million. But i think they both got something out of this. The cowboys got their guy and they don't have gamble on the open market next year because as one. Gm told me a lot of people may not see him as a one through five quarterback more of a kirk cousins six three ten so teams get to convince themselves to pay whatever number. He's demanding and to the cowboys really want to get into that sort of bidding war. He's their guy. They'd had a hard time finding a quarterback over the years. I can go down the list of as can you name some of the terrible ones over the years respect all we've had brayton leading we've had. We've we've had vinny test birdie in two thousand and three when i started covering this team not to date myself too much. They just haven't had a lot of success at the position in not only do you have a guy that's had a winning record who's been durable starter with the exception of last year and that awful injury but he's a guy that finds way to win ways to win and who the locker room truly rides for it's just hard to find a guy like deck out there and you found him in. The fourth round was a compensatory pick draft great aged jane so what are the expectations shift from the outside looking in now dak prescott obviously before. He's a fourth round pick. He's playing above his contract. He deserves a new one now. Like okay all expectations or on you. Do you think like how do you think. Cowboys fans and coaches and everyone else is going to can evaluate them. I mean super bowl or bus. I mean that's how quarterbacks are judged as you guys know especially here in dallas. I mean when you've got roger staubach and troy aikman ahead of you. Tony romo dealt with that for years. I remember when tony romo got paid. People debated whether he should have gotten the money he got at the time we went back. I mean that was child's play compared to quarterbacks getting paid that's just the market value but he's of course the expectations are going to be very very high for him. You know you just hope that you have thirteen guys on. I r last year namely you saw this offensive line really fall apart. You just hope that. Lyle call ins and tyron smith. You know you're all pro guys on both sides of are gonna come back healthy. Is tyler gonna be your center where it is not going to hold out for you and then on defense. It was awful. Last year they went from middle of the pack. Historically bad you've got a lot of areas addressed not only of the defensive line but also in the secondary. Can you do all of that to the drafts. And can you do that with some of the fund money that dax allowed with some of the structuring of this contracts. There's a lot of big question marks. But i do think team morale finding ways to win putting points on the board dak prescott gives you your best chance. They fell apart whenever he got hurt last year. Now at the end they kind of got back together. But boy i think decks impact was shown immediately upon his exit which was a massively gruesome injury. Was there any talk about where deck is in his recovery. Assuming his press conference smart people ask about that but the assumption is he's gonna be back better than ever with this whole thing which is amazing that scientists at that point because that was a disgusting injury at this point. Is everybody any talk about that. And there's daggers. People said anything about where he is physically after that after that massive injury. Here's what i'll say it's been a little bit of a mixed bag in dallas. I mean obviously it's a small town. People talk there was some concern that the second surgery that he had told about two weeks left in the season might have been more serious than people would characterize highwood. Push back that. I know that the cowboys were very involved in that second surgery. And the fact that he's been rehabbing at that facility in front of them so they've got a pretty good idea of where he's at and they felt good enough to give him ninety. Six million dollars is what he's guaranteed. They would be off the hook for after the first year. That doesn't sound to like they're that worried about it right to again. They have officially filed this thing. Yet they're gonna place to franchise tag on him as a procedure. There's a note tag. There's a no trade clause and he got all of this money up front that says to me. They're not worried about that ankle. And i would say this about deck. He is incredibly durable and has been in dallas. He didn't miss eddie. Start ahead of this. And there's a guy i just don't bet against. I mean going back to his high school in his college career. He always won the starting job because of another person's injury. He's just kind of this remarkable kid that you actually wanted to see. Get a win here and you know that the team is excited to get him back against scientists remarkable. i also think a lot of its mental. He's got a lot of the right mental makeup to come back from something like that. that's awesome. I can't wait to see how it goes. Jane thank you so much for taking time with us. They can follow more at slater. Nfl i appreciate and my girl. I last week. Diana racine to start upgrading. Your show these hold. We are getting much. Better thank you. We appreciate that. It's been documented at this point. Two shows getting better at this point. And it's probably because of you guys. Diana scenic came on though came in here and dropped a bomb or two. That you know we appreciated. Obviously i assume she had to answer for she did. She put a tweet out but she's killing it. As are you thank you so much. Ladies and gentlemen j slater thank you thank. You can now report that towel. Long is coming back to flip. Show i believe a week ago. Maybe a week and a half ago and i talked about his brother and he and he actually said i'm. I'm i'm pretty ripped up right now. Chris can get it. I live right down. The street is basically what he said. Chris can get right now. Chris long is confirming a report from green light. Pod insider making making sure or may come come knocking on mccown gunter tweeted out that three time. Pro bowl offensive line. Cow along is returning to the nfl. He is three hundred fifteen pounds healthy happy nasty and shredded in his signed with jeff. Tally of select sports. So now long is back in the. Nfl let's go talked about his exit from the chicago bears. We talked about being hurt and bitter man whenever he lets the chicago bears and i assume that he may be had a little frustration with the game of football whenever he decided to retire. Got a chance to step away from it a little bit look back as a fan become a fan and i think once we talk to him. It was really nice to see that he seemed to be in a very happy place. He's getting a lot more active on social media by the way if feels like how long a man that i got to meet at a pro bowl his rookie year. He was at a pro bowl by the way. Incredibly cool hilarious dude. It seemed like there was a time where football maybe didn't make him feel the same way. It did at one point now. He gets the chance to come. This might be wrong. He's never told me this. We are not that tight. I'm just saying from an outsider. Looking in didn't like gronkowski right. Who got away for a little bit dot healthy got happy got a chance maybe felt a little jaded by the game which i think a lot of guys do whenever they eventually retire and then once you step back and he started viewing it and thinking back about the good times not just the terrible times in the moment you missed the game. I want to get back to the game and he's still got it. I'm happy how long's back. he's great. fuck and football player in their offensive linemen needed in a lot of different places Basically every team would take a good offensive linemen. Let's assume how long can still play the chicago. Bears have officially released him. He is good to go wherever he wants to go. Shots at the green light. Bod chris breaking news on his brother. There's one team that comes to mind and needs attack. Who has a quarterback who might feel little. Jd is guard. He can play tackle athletic enough for sure the left and he can also you know teach carson wentz a thing or two about no appreciate in the game and the game coming to work every day. This doesn't think bro. that was retired. Awesome you're going to miss it man enjoying it april. I felt like you all right. I thought i was getting bamboozled. Turn got out there. And i was like what still got a lot of shit. He actually said to his brother. Yeah he can get right now. I'm really good with where he's at. I'm pumped car coming back if it was with coats. I'd be elated. Because he'd be in the same city as us and he is awesome. But i assume it's going to be a lot of people that would like how long other teams also another team. That just released two. Their starting guards. Who is dad played for for a long a raid us point. I have no offense wyman now car along like dad played their legend their vegas not bad sitting and i can still move right gruden. Solaire is still cool. Go move some humans around over there in the desert for not a bad play. Great running back great running back now playing. Qb i mean tvd possibly russ possible you. Derek carr obviously also breaking news in the nfl. What was it hunter henry. Oh yeah that's a fucking big deal. Hunter henry officially released from the chargers. Basically he is clear to go to free agency. There is a photo of bill. Belichick and hunter henry hugging other. If you just scroll down just a little bit. I think if you can scroll down no marriages hundred there is. There is a photo that was tweeted alongside of this announcement by shefty of bill belichick and hunter henry hugging each other hunter. Henry is somebody that the new england patriots fans are already pitching to come to new england. Need a good tight end. Who's going to be the quarterback. Nobody knows possibly jimmy g. Possibly you but hunter henry coming to the team. Alongside trent brand coming into the team are the patriots. Trying to build this thing back up once again. You bring cam newton back on the cheap. I mean look what he did in two thousand fifteen with really good tight end greg olsen. He took that team to the super bowl and he won the mvp. Let's bring in hundred out to resurrect cans korea out and let's go get got. We got an offense alignment. Okay just brought him back. We made a mistake and make a mistake. We're on the trading him back okay. So they bring him back. Make the thing happened only to pay him eleven million dollars next year for a very good tack or whatever i mean. The patriots are building at this particular time. Hunter henry is going to be able to move. Will he ended up as a patriot or elsewhere. That is going to be something. We have to bring back whoever they want. But it doesn't matter if they don't have a quarterback and cam cannot throw anymore. It's not two thousand fifteen so don't tell you a little better. Feel good thing i get. The patriots are almost back. There's no would. It comes the pacers feel-good okay. Hey listen i respect that. You feel that way. And i'm sir. I'm sure a lot of people do. But i got caught up in a moment. They're a little bit of thinking of bill belichick and bring these pieces back almost the evil villain guy rising from the ashes almost and coming all the way back with a big suck at tour next year with an entire team. But you're saying we don't want. I don't want that saw. Forget what he did to tom. Down foxborough have good talk. I know everybody loves loves tom. Yeah is getting dragged out of boats. You have a good time tequila of kado bills like that guy who runs the mon- stars in space. Jam come way that movie's coming back by the way. I think it's going to be good all right now. I just want to yeah. I'm asking some real questions here. Because i did not grow up watching any of the schick. Okay is documented is proven. I just learned of a peppy. Lobue characters office comeback. How did that slip by all your motherfuckers families and everything for as long as it did. I watched one video. And i guess i'm going to now. I was introduced a popular view this morning. I didn't know it existed. Thousand percents had no idea it existed. I saw videos like oh that flew for. How long was that thing. That thing was around for a long time. Oh happy with who create a penalty. We got question. Mr tunes senior. Two senior living that that creator should be called into some questions as well. The legendary cartoonist chuck jones peppy made his debut in nineteen forty-five jesus christ man. Okay so you can see how some of the things maybe quote unquote slip through the cracks over the years. No i don't. Everyone was making babies after the warts. Things are slipping through the cracks. Post world war baby-boom. Actually that's from the depression. Where the boomers or the coming home from world war two so that. Yeah yeah screw. Peppy la- puke as around. It was the boomer era. I guess also the guy who created peppy few maybe had some that occurs feelings about the french you know and kinda does undertones. There then was the greatest era and then it created that was the greatest greatest generation was the ones. That one day graded the bo. Thank you bye you trying to really appreciate what you guys did. Good goddamn could you imagine being them. Do they show those clips like movies at reenact the beaches of normandy or whatever just bucket in those boats just sitting there like oh. I'm going to die right. You're seasick. By the way. I think about all the little things if i was on one of those okay. It is freezing. I seasick by the way that is the least of my words right now. I am going into certain death at this point for that is fucking unbelie. Every time it comes on. I get chance to watch myself like i understand. We're all humans like rolling. Those are i could never. I have never ever done with those paratroopers jumping out of planes behind. Know behind enemy la. My god with flame throwers on their backs. I mean it's insane in run up to even use the damn thing. Well how about how if everything it was sand and then there's just a cliff. Yes literally could. We have not scouted a different area like that feels like that was the worst possible setup for a storming of a beach. Part of cracking a 'nigma was actually figuring out that normandy was the best option for attacking germans k. But hindsight right we just had to redraft attack would be the number one overall pick in that draft. You some other stuff that would happen. I mean probably not right. No that went into the decision of normandy. Thank you the idea was. Hey it's gonna be tough but once we break through here. We have a real. You're facing a ten win. In the end it worked results. Well a lot of people. I mean a lobby. Plenty should've just is gonna drown skylights boxes stacked and you break through the line of scrimmage. It's daylight okay so it was. It was goal attention. Choline defense academy on a fourth and one from the twenty but boy i mean it was thirty but it does feel like we potentially like derrick henry. We're out running folks on the other side of that thing to ensure shot up to the sport show. Hey good job everybody in here company. How you doing great day. We gambling or anything. Oh yeah we got champions league today okay. So once again you have told us before. But let's assume there's maybe a new listener that has never watched soccer before because that just seems to be on a regular occurrence. That champions league is a combo league of all the league's best teams in europe all the leagues in europe top four teams from each league and europe. Okay so europe. Spain italia germany england got done having. There is a great super boost today. Actually do what is it you ventas and dortmund both to go through from minus one ten to plus money i believe wound so dornan insists in italy yet. Dorman right. the storm door opens up three to from the first leg and they have three away goals so they even the aggregate playoff even if they i even if they tie severe work good so this is the championship of the champions league. Were in it you. Fantasy down to one on aggregate. I'd have the away goal. So if they win one nothing and they tied they have the away goal. They go through. Christiano rested on saturday event. This'll be today. Fagor good is three three goes to away goals fucking stupid. Pay man if those if those stadiums are cranked fads. That's a tough place to get a goal. Oh so it is actually home field advantage when there's fans in those places you go italy england. It's insane because back in the day soccer. Whenever i was growing up tight they go korkut. What yeah that was. One of the tiebreakers was corner. Kicks a number of corner case. You had to win the game then penalty kicks but it wasn't from the spot. You actually dribbled up. Oh yeah that's how they add. Awesome dude those are awesome. I just don't think why don't they just let. Pk's happened forever. Why do they save. Would this have peak. It wouldn't have piquet but if they're tied right like if there is no away goals or if the away goals are tied. It'll go to extra time and then penalties shots and the extra time is for the two games not just this game. No extra time is to win at all go through the only thing with potentially on now so one teams up to one right now. So let's say it's two one. Porto right event wins to one today and it goes to extra time today goal okay so we could get a shootout today because it's the two game come by ending exactly. Okay tie your thoughts do that every time we need a god damned perfect storm for this to happen. If i'm now longtime k. The english game. I think or something like that is. The documentary was founded. I watch a series on how the game was founded by the richest rich folk. Documentari- documentarian a Some guys awesome. Trains travel over to play him from the factory. You know those guys by beat fucking hell. It's spoiler. Alert it kind of do that. But if i'm soccer okay. I'm getting the shootout as much as i can't. Let's get this year's much today. There's a chance for that could happen. Man are fucking numbers. just cry. i actually went up or whatever neato. I've been a big fan of soccer recently. Strictly because we have the soccer sharp on planet earth which is just gives out walks him. I'm not saying i'm watching. Any of the games. Any of them three game parlor yesterday it was. Electric team was down to nothing with twenty nine minutes left. The comeback at three goals hit the three game parlors. Oh my guess. Another day for what's the guy's name The guy you're friends with you guys are to soccer. sharps nigel. seely the bigshot najrah shadow. You like night kit. Do we thought there a chance. That would beef. Yeah just because we don't know much about the soccer sharp world. I guess the soccer sharp by the way gentleman's game they make friends with each mesa put sorts house kind of negative neck by trying to really drive. Neck was trying to push a little bit of beef on gum. In by the way this would be a international international. Oh wow yeah yeah. It would be a show canadian beefing with a british man. That would be right. He's an england. Yeah that's an international international. Be i mean this guy was stopping over gump. Good name and gone. Wouldn't stand up to them. I was just joking around. Yeah that's what i and then. Maybe maybe he was just a laugh taking the past with the board. I'm maybe having allowed st needed. Some back he was a pow up there as a soccer show though he tweeted out every morning. And i really do feel like doing myself a disservice. If i don't bet on them. I'm like if you know money sitting there why you're not doing it now you've had some days okay. We're not going to deny that. I've had some bad days. That's going to happen in this game. Though sixty percent is more than a sharp in the bedding world. I think people forget that. Yeah well people by the way the problem is you. You are the standard. You set the standard for yourself in. That's what wanna do and you've on this pressure by the way this pressure. That doesn't just come to people that don't do. Nobody expects greatness from somebody that's average government. You have set the table here for yourself to be great so when you have those days of average when you have those days failure people automatically want to react. You can't let that affect you because you know why you're at the greatness level that you're going to get back to and ultimately deep down those people that bury your average days or blow that she's because they can't wait to celebrate whatever you're back on top which comes normally the next day so company you fucking keep swinging time billy walsh's fifty seven percent. He admitted himself. Billy walter walter. Shouli grades director way to go suit tattoo on his back. I realized as i get older and older not as many people watch on josh. Because i'll i'll do tweet reference to entourage boy. That thing is dries up on shame. It's get some phone calls. Shall we be you answered. These calls in by good. Yeah there's a couple of good ones on. Let's go to sam anaya what's going on fucking iowa commit hasn't told anybody but our fall actually do not work. I said the phones always this staticky. He goes yeah which focused. I also crackling like a fucking popcorn maker mid sitting in denver right now watching the show all sam. Don't on pell minutes not save trout. The boy covid on show. Thank you sam. We're lucky that you watch brother. We appreciate the hell out of you man on hell. yeah anyway. Lifelong tampa bay fan here in iowa obvious. Good year for us but also scout. Aaron rodgers tuesday's by families vikings fans and. I think. I finally got him to like erin learn. What do you wanna talk about them. Well basically with the whole cowboys and dax situation. I just wanted to congratulate jerry jones on making team kgo eight nine and losing in the wild card for the next four years. How about sam by the way getting the seventeen game season right tales there with sam saying they're going to go eight nine. Do we have our poll. Can we get to our poll by the way. The poll today was one that i assume this type of compensation will come up. Somebody would ask you know. Are they gonna win the super bowl now that they signed deck is. That's never really what you're signing. Somebody the poll today was sixty. Nine thousand votes will dak prescott ever win a super bowl yes. Seventeen percent no eighty three percent of his. That's crazy right. that's very crazy. Because he's he's making seventy five million dollars. You would think to win the super bowl. That is why jerry brought him back now. I'm not saying that. The poll where the people are ever in a necessarily smarter than everybody else on earth. Okay jerry mccarthy everybody down in dallas. They've been around dak experienced act in with the way the salary caps going to be. I guess they feel that. They're at a point where we can pay him this and still be a team but they're paying them to win the super bowl in this poll although it has helped us by fading it numerous times when it comes to bats and things like that. That is a large amount of people saying this. Ain't this ain't superbowl move for the dallas cowboys. Which by the way it would be every move you make in the nfl. I'm intrigued to see if dak prescott can give big fuck eater. Well with how bad their secondary was last year. And now you got. You still have staffer with the rams now rogers and brady with the book. I mean those are not greatest. I guess but three unbelievable throwing quarterbacks how could you not address that before you pay someone seventy five million dollars a year. He's talking about the nfc championship. Run on digs at the dig deep thinking. They're about something or not but he's talking about to win. Not only the division. You obviously got to win the nfc and then once you get to the super bowl by the way there's another person that's probably going to be waiting there for a while. It seems like at this point person wins but if the washington football team gets a quarterback out what kind of key seven million dude that guy played carter lights off chance cardinals did get. Jj watt looking backwards going to be a saint and he's got nothing approved by the way he can't be a seahawk not a tweet us at say. We hate to see hawks. I don't think that's fair at all. I compliment carol all the time. I tell them into seahawks. I talked about seahawks. Exactly how the seahawks now granted last year. Aaron rodgers tuesday's russ was mvp. Usa's mvp wasn't if you're watching football. He wasn't he wasn't he wasn't in an inevitable. The entire season ended up happening right. Okay never got like an apology. By the way for seahawks fans for coming after me all year for that. But still i feel like i'm rather fair to the seahawks with that being said how the fuck of the seahawks going to have russell wilson. Be back on their team at this point. That is a weird. That isn't weird. Dynamic that has been created in seattle with the team ross in seattle seahawks and they send a letter out to their season ticket holders yesterday did not have russell wilson's name on it. Had decay metcalf tyler. Lockett and others on there do not have russel's name on their service. Oh shit like it's going down now. i must add. I saw that season ticket. Holders letter on the internet that might have been faked. But there's a lot of other shit it might've been we don't know we honestly have no idea now. Think the person that reported that Season ticket holder letter with somebody that maybe would know exactly how to photoshop and entirely letter i think was kind of maybe a little bit older person and put it on the internet for might but it seems like shits ugly over there. The bears don't have enough to trade for them. The saints seemed to be doing everything they can get under the cap. They're making people renegotiate. They've got do what they gotta do. I don't know whereas options are now because people are saying the cowboys potentially we're an option. I just. I'll be intrigued to see how he gets out of there where he goes. Who hasn't enough to get them. Yeah i don't know how they would do it. but i guess it. With people saying the raiders. You could see with everything they're doing right now. You creating all this space that maybe they'll try to make a play for him but how long's backers almost makes too much. What does the bears did. I've seen this three once khalil. Mack and nick foles yes khalil. Mack and nick foles. We're definitely on the move. They have a one this year. That's late in the day of one next year and one the next year. So you begin here next three years up plus khalil mack. Who has been a game changer for you. So you're kind of robbing peter to pay paul here on the defense offense aside with khalil mack. Leaving and then. Nick foles you want him as a backup quarter if you're going to go on a super bowl run. I don't know. I just none of those teams are better than the seahawks. That's my thing but those teams will allow russ to play football potential. Make him an mvp and player. Because philosophical differences said that russ cooking didn't lead to more success for us so we're going to become a more balanced offense a lot more running abo- says pete carroll. Let's get rid of shoddy. Maybe one of those places will become a place that just. Let's open it up but if you want to be an mvp win. Do you think because this whole thing is fractured so quickly that they may have backed themselves into a corner and they might not get as much in return because it does feel like. It's hard to believe that he will be playing quarterback for the seahawks next year. Think of the leverage that russell wilson people have right now if you want to get out because if they don't get rid of them it's only gonna get worse shawn watson houston texas and leverage is in every other building right. We know he does well. It's going to be bubba. We'll come back to you like a week or so. This is going to continue a mess. This continue it's interesting. It's fascinating can't thank enough for allowing us to penetrate your ear. Holes are the best the best the shows continuing to grow. It makes no sense at all to us. But i am so thankful you choose to spend time with us if you like this show. Please be friends elephant and if not it's all good we'll see around we'll see you around speaking of seeing around. We've got a big one tomorrow. Be affronts other frontier police placement music and propelled these people in a beautiful tuesday night jeers. Thank you to everybody you Soon

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Show part of their podcast network. I'm kevin joined today by nola prints yada and warren sharp. Warren just revealed as soon as we started recording. The he's listening to taylor swift warren. What's going on buddy. I don't know we gotta famous star covering another star. Stars are aligning here. I've been checking out his new series. It's been pretty cool. And so happy to happy to hear her exploring one of her passions a little bit more and share out with the rest of us has been pretty neat otherwise for me. I'm just this head down working on some offseason projects and Happy to join you guys. So we're going to get to a couple of those projects. There's a lot to talk about. Say they'll what happened today nora a lot. I'm i'm still. I'm trying to not got a little misty eyed love that we're making a swift data. Warren sharp yeah. A lot went down very newsy day. Not just the tags. And the non tags onto david re-signed with the bucks kyle long turning to the nfl. Trent brown gets traded back to the patriots essay. Wilson dolphins just a lot there. We'll start with the tags and the nontaxed. So the franchise tag deadline was today. Tuesday here the players that got tacked bucks wide receiver. Chris godwin the bears tagged allen robinson. Which i think we all. Maybe for content's sake thought might not happen but it always was the the thing that made more sense as long as the bears could afford it. The saints signed marcus williams. Bit of surprised there Jets got marcus. Maye on the tag. Leonard williams with giants cowboys quarterback prescott procedurally got tagged. But obviously he resigned his deal on monday rain. Insure for the western football team. Jaguars came robinson and the panthers. Taylor moton warren sharp. You look at this tag west. What do you think is the biggest deal well. I'm just looking back i think. What is there is there. Ten or eleven in either case is less than fifteen that we had in two thousand twenty. But it's more than what we had in the prior several years to that we had six twenty nineteen six in two thousand eighteen. Seven twenty seventeen. We had a high water. Mark of of ten franchise slash transition tag players in two thousand sixteen and prior to that. The three years were all well below ten as well. So we're seeing It's not as much as last year but last year really stood out I think overall we're seeing a pretty good number of these players being utilized in the one that kind of jumps out to me. I think is One of the better players who. I would've loved to see him get a long term deal but maybe this means he'll be leaving next. Year is Is allen robinson. I just want him to find a a a quarterback to throw the football. I'm interested to see what chicago ends up doing from that perspective as well. Yeah i think. That's i mean alan robinson. There are very few players. I hope for good thing more roms just because even go to college what he's had to go through the quarterback position nor when you look at that list stands out here we just talk about the saints and get it out of the way fired up about this. This unbelievable they keep spending money. Hey whatever they know they can find a way. No what are you. Are you surprised. No at this point i am a i am now a saints capture. It's not real. It's not real the sensor take Not here's the thing it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not and they just keep going deeper into the hole and it's really stressing me out and i mean i get it like williams is a great player. But here's the thing is that i have a lot of questions about if they're going to be able to keep the top two guys from that same draft that he was a part of ram checking lattimore who would both theoretically be on their fifth year option. They be over the cap numbers this year if they extend those guys but holy smokes. Are we seriously just going to keep doing this. And then the other question where is where is the one hundred million dollars going to come from like seriously. Where is it going to come from. I have so many fans in my mentions being. If you cut kwan. Alexandra chiefs fourteen million dollars. Do you know what fourteen million dollars is. Not a one hundred million dollars. What the hell is going on here. So marcus williams is the second highest grade safety since twenty nineteen according to pf. He was the fifteenth ranked for ag. Promo focus as well. He's kind of guy you want to keep and if you can do it and you could afford it It's good business by the. But i'm with you nor i continued to be astounded by this and i just don't born. Where are we in a sense. Our gap do you believe it exists. I would love to see what happens if they can't get it down. I mean i wanna. I'm rooting this rooting for you know something to actually occur here where it doesn't fall in line with what typically happens in there somehow able to make magic. I want to see what happens when things blow up and they have they always seem to figure out a way. So i'm not gonna hold my breath here. I think that they're going to figure out a way like nora and you. I'm going to be shocked and surprised to figure out how they're going to get there but inevitably i think they somehow figure it out. What happens if they're just over the cap that happened in the nineties. A handful of times and teams got find a lot of money. So it's not going to have it had that we haven't had that in. I believe over two decades but we can. we can look into it All right so yeah i i. I don't think that there were many surprises on this list. Wish the non-tax your. Because i think that that's that's more intriguing because obviously these players are gonna go out to the open market so hunter henry from chargers can day for the lions titans. Jonnu smith Juju smith schuster from the steelers. Texans why she will fuller trent williams from the forty niners who could not be tagged Deal but sounds like he wants to come back for deniers you've been talking about since december The buccaneers shock barrett. The and obviously the chris godwin check their decision that the bucks had to make was was interesting. One and we'll get that in a second bud dupree from the steelers yanni gateway the from the ravens shack griffin from seahawks. Aaron jones of the packers. Kara lawson the bengals. William jackson with the bengals joe tony from the patriots and rams safety john johnson worn. I wanna talk about the bucks. The super bowl champions. Who tied chris. Godwin and didn't tag jack barrett they get onto. David done everyone assumes shack bear comes back on a big deal How does their sort of team building. Look for you Do they make the right decision. And beyond that if the bucks just run it back next year and collect bargain free agents or whatever. It had the same team which might happen because the way the cap isn't away. Some of the prices are going up. Your is that good enough to win the super bowl if they just run it backwards. It's it's good enough because it can happen. It's not going to be optimal for them. It's not going to put them as like the front runners to make it happen. Obviously i liked as the season progresses. How they seem to take on more of tom. Brady's identity things more intelligently as the season progressed that were in the best interest of the football team even as it related to as quickly as late in the season as the super bowl itself changing up a few things and doing some things differently. Like that i play of the super bowl was play action pass when they ran the ball so often on first down as like okay great. They're actually going to change a little bit. And i think there's better things in store for them just from an efficiency perspective on offense that we can expect them to receive next. Offseason are sorry during the off season and into Next season i think locking up godwin was very important for them. He provided a massive asset there that they get for at least a twenty twenty one. Football season overall. I think that they're still going to be a good team because of brady. And because they have the talent on offense and their offensive line is still going to be intact. Until i don't think they need to make as many additions in free agency this offseason but i do think that they're going to be other teams. That are perhaps a little bit more able to make a lot of free agent acquisitions that are going to say leapfrog them. But beyond that level playing field with them as strong competitors and keep in mind they did some smart things last off season. I think they signed fifteen unrestricted free agents. One of which was tom brady. Fourteen of those fifteen were only on one year deals. We're going to see the ability for teams to be getting guys on one year deals this offseason with the number of guys that are available and the potential for the cap to be much higher and twenty twenty two so They still can make some moves. But i think a lot of other teams are going to be super teams. Potentially that are going after some of these guys that are going to make the competition. Really strong dole agree. The number of bridge contracts. We're gonna see over the next couple of weeks. He's going to be fascinating to watch because there are so many guys wants to cap spikes in a couple of years. No charles robinson. Had i think the report of the day. There's so much been going on so much has been going on kinda got lost but trump's and said that there's a co- people in the league think in just a few years this hour cap could touch two hundred fifty million dollars right and you look at the way that the tv contracts was to come down that tracks like it's supposed to visit double the tv revenue wants the the contrast down later this week and once that starts trickle into the cap. Yeah there's going to be a huge explosion and so if you're reaching free agency this year you might wanna sign a one year deal And hope that there's a huge spike next year or two year deal and know that is going to be spike in two years. So i think you're gonna see that timing. I think you could see what you're describing though super teams. I think it's fascinating nora when you look at this list and i what i like about franchise tight deadline day is now. We have to speak hypotheticals because we know who's actually reaching the open market when you look at this list if you were just your average team you and and let let's say let's say you're a blank slate. Okay who has your number one free agent on your big board here. It didn't get tight today if you're if you're just going out and saying i want this guy just from a pure skill and talent standpoint where you going it's shaq barrett. Yep i think. And i'm kind of well. I'm taking trent williams out of this. Because i'm pretty sure he's going to stay where he is. But i think it's shaq barrett just a premier pass rusher someone who can really make an impact on a defense born same question if you're if you're a gm and you have just a team that needs every position who you're targeting on this list of the non-tax well i can tell you who i'm really interested to see what type of contract he signed it. S aaron jones. The running back from the packers but others lists. I'm looking for some difference. Makers i wanna see will fuller kenny golladay. Those are two guys can open some things up on some offenses and really give teams. Would either of those guys signed for a one year deal on. I don't know why would they want more money. Like that's the type of thing that is exactly as you said fascinating. Those are the two guys for me and we had a conversation recently about Fuller kevin and i did. His free agency is really interesting to me. Especially now that robinson has been tagged because you take the guy who if he'd gotten there would've been the number one guy at that position. It's still good receiver year. But you kind of take the premier dude off the board and then to me for that just slightly below tear. It gets even more interesting. There's less money to go around but teams need these players and there are really good ones available so how that pie gets divvied up was was interesting before but i think even more so now that that robinson is staying in chicago nor matchmaker here golladay and will four paramount of the team that has money to spent. Okay well. let's stay on. Let's stay on fuller for a second again. Because i want to get warrants thoughts on what. We talked about that other pod. We talked about the cardinals and we talked about the colts. Two offenses that. I think it would be really fascinating to see what happens with those when you inject the speed element that makes willfuller who he has worn. What do you have any thoughts on. Either of those. those fits. i kind of liked the colts a little bit because to me. That's a that's a position room that could utilize his deep threat speed. And i think it with ty slowing down and now phasing out like i think that will fuller would be magic there. I think the cardinals you know. That's a passing at least in in indy. I don't get too down on what they're doing in arizona but at least in india. I feel like yeah. The quarterback is unknown but they've got a strategy there with the way they want to incorporate players and utilize their passing attack. I feel like in arizona. There's a lot of questions about cliff kingsbury usage of some of these guys in how the inner change in i feel like more confident i feel willfuller. We'll have a higher ceiling in indianapolis for certain and i would rather see that parent personally cuisine. Clifford just one second. Because i know this is a bit of an aside by wanna dive into it because i think warn you and i were both pleasantly surprised in the first year of clendenin clip takes a step back year. And and i'm at the point. Now where when you have used entire tenure. Even though i was down on the higher to begin with. I have been disappointed relative to the expectations. I've had for cliff coming into last year and cuyler coming into last year. Because i really thought the collar was going to make a leap like we've seen from a lot of these other second year quarterback. I still love tyler. I think he's a franchise quarterback all that stuff big picture in arizona as cliff the guy and what is cuyler ceiling in two thousand twenty one. I mean tyler is just so dynamic If he stays healthy but there is. There is a ceiling there. I think that ceiling is lower on clifton is in cuyler for. I think i think tyler gives them more. I think cliff just needs to figure out what he wants what he wants to do. I saw a lot of great adjustment from him. That first year there adapting what we thought was just going to be straight up for verts all the time doing a lot. More things in basing it based upon who is healthy and when they were available and what. The defense was weak against. But i didn't feel like we got a very good rhythm or consistent pictures to what their offense was last season. And i think he's going to take a little bit of work for him to perfect what he actually wants tyler to do and the time of excuse making for him being a guy who's just getting his feet wet in the. Nfl is coming to an abrupt end. Because you're gonna lose the ability to have cuyler on a great rookie quarterback deal very soon and so you have to make some big strides this off season to improve what you're doing especially as that. Nfc west improves their teams as well. We should see a better. San francisco forty niners team. We should see a better quarterback behind center for the los angeles rams and as a result i mean. Let's pretend that. Russell wilson is staying in seattle for the time being you're gonna have some great opponents in that division that you're gonna have to work your way past and right now i just don't have a lot of confidence in cliffs plan and I'm really curious to be honest with you as a breakdown. That offense more this offseason what i think. They need to do differently this upcoming year. I'm not to the point where i can give specific recommendations but we know what they were doing. Last year was was not maximizing their potential. I would also say that the the time of excuses is over for any college pro coach because the gap between college and pro game has never been more narrow like this is the great merging of all the levels of football is one of the last decade. And so if you come from college now you're hired essentially because you understand the college offenses which have now become the nfl offenses and there's just a. There's there's no leap there. This isn't jimmy. Johnson being hired by the cowboys in the eighties. You your strength. Is your college scheme. And you'd that should be able to work almost out of the gate in the nfl. So the fact that it's your to if we're still giving cliff any excuses That's probably misguided. Well i wanna come back to to it and give him his due in this. But it's just funny because to your point hunter henry who's going to be the premier tight end. His football life goes back to plastic academy arkansas. The school where they don't punt which has so much to do with the arc of how all those different levels of football have melded together over the last few years. So it's just a funny coincidence in terms of what you were just saying bill. Ballot check is friends with the coaches. Who don't want yesterday early loves and loves a lot of like screen grabs of postgame. Congratulations and general. Lovey-dovey between check and hunter henry. Really know what what the patriots would be doing with. Hunter henry at this current moment but there's definitely appreciation and A lot of good feelings there but on golladay. This one is in some ways. Maybe not as interesting to me is fuller. Just because he's kinda guy now which means he's probably gonna end up on one of these teams. That just have a lot of money like the dream. Scenario i think is the dolphins to pair him with parker. But the other the other people who are really going to be in contention i would guess would be either of the new york teams the jets or the giants Or the jaguars. And i don't the thing about sort of overlaying matt on what those offenses are going to look a little bit to a lesser extent with the giants boat with the jets and the jaguars. It's just kind of like. They are such a blank canvas and kenny. Golladay is not a bad guy to start painting with. But i do wonder how he feels about that at this point in his career. Because i feel like he's gonna end up just like getting a bag from one of that group. 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I. it's interesting to me when their list of the non-tax rushing for agency. They need to be concentrated at two positions skill guys and pass rushers Because i'm looking at your holidays. Your henry's you're you're your jus you're will fuller. And then on the other side you have shaq barrett bud dupree. Yachting gakugei of carlson obviously would talk about matthew john earlier. Another defensive lineman You have studied a lot and we're going to get you this little later in the show. What how teams who win. Spend their money It smart to go after a pass catcher in free agency. Is it smart to go. After a pass. Rusher in free agency What if you were to This is a broad general question. But if you're looking at how smart is spend their money. Do they go after. These two skill guys or is going to be teams. Tend to make. Mistakes are the ones who go. After and give a ton of money to a hunter henry or give a ton of money to a bud dupree. No i think. I think it's the latter the teams that are going to go after these. I think Nor made the perfect argument. You have a guy. Like kenny golladay. Who's just going to get a big bag from one of the teams. That doesn't have a good quarterback yet and doesn't really know what they wanna do. One is attempting to incorporate a new offense of system in there and you know he may not actually produce for them and then we're going to look back in a couple of years a hey this was tremendous waste of money to spend on a guy who is only getting seven or eight targets a game And maybe was injured. A couple of the weeks like it's just not a great usage of your money. The teams that are going to be making the smart decisions. This particular off season because of the cap issues are the ones that are going to be able to convince certain select players of this group. Run it with me for one season. And so i look at a guy like a jonnu smith who could be a great access asset. And i'm thinking man. What if buffalo could convince him to quote there for one season dot would be a pretty fun pairing you so it really is going to factor and i wonder how many of these guys are going to look at it and say what are the best teams quarterback situations. I can go into for one year and then try to hit free agency. After i make a little bit Of money but more so produce some great numbers in this new location for one season and then move elsewhere but there are gonna be some teams out there inevitably because they're always are. There are going to fork over a ton of money for a guy like bud dupree or somebody like that and maybe in a couple years end up regretting it nor were the next. Let's say three years of alan robinson. The black oh. Wow he's got to get out of this man happiness right at some point. There's happiness at some. You know what. Yes i am. I am an optimist. He suffers through another year and then he he gets out and he buys a really nice house. If he doesn't already own one i i'm sure he has a nice house. Twenty seven years old. He will turn twenty eight in august. He has two straight seasons of one thousand yards But the year before that in two thousand eighteen he was hurt. Obviously fourteen hundred dirt season in two thousand. Fifteen with jacksonville I think playing out the tag is okay. Listen one thing we learned the dak prescott thing and obviously it's a different pace. Go who's your quarterback but the tag can be your friend. Okay and i remember talking to people on the players side in the union side a couple years ago and they're saying listen. The tag stinks as far as player movement and all that stuff. I remember talking aaron rodgers couple of years ago. And he said there was one thing he could do with player movement. It would be to move the franchise tag And then a couple of weeks later. He signed an extension. Because in large part packers would've kept tagging up is aaron rodgers But he still could make a boatload of money using the tax And using short deal. So i think with some combination of short deals anna tag. He can make a bunch of money and can get eventually to where he needs to be done next year. And maybe maybe big. maybe maybe. The bears have a good quarterback next year. I don't know he's also a great case. Study in that. It doesn't necessarily matter what numbers he puts up next year. If his quarterback is not great people are always going to recognize him in free agency. The following off season is this guy is the premier blue chip wide receiver. All of his numbers have been depressed because of these crappy quarterbacks that he's had the work within the past so What he needs to do is invest in a little program of self love and just get through this season and then hopefully he can move on like you just mentioned self care frown robinson self care. Is there any other. And i guess you would say analogous player to to roms more that we don't talk enough about where you know. I remember actually. Kevin demos told me this belt robert woods. How he they identified robert woods when he was in buffalo as a great player whose numbers were depressed because of his quarterback And maybe there's no answer here. But if there is kind of the next allen robinson were in two or three years. We're going be saying hey. This guy's an elite wide receiver redesigned the quarterback help Is there anyone. You can point to I actually would go. Maybe maybe we're talking like dj more or somebody like that. So many indicator allina system because we didn't get a whole lot to see two years ago last year. We teddy teddy's great for you know winning games. You don't think you're gonna wind staying closing games. But he's not a premier type quarterback in and. I do think that there are some talented receivers down. There and dj more is definitely one of them who is probably getting a little bit overlooked. Because the team's record and the quarterbacks that he's had to work with but he's not the only one. I mean there's a number of different guys around the league. Who who are suffering with sub quarterbacks for a couple of years. But there's no doubt you go all the way back to college and look at the quarterbacks at allen roberts zad the work with and i don't know if we've seen a a better receiver suffering with worse caliber of quarterbacks passing the football for such an extended stretch than we've seen allen robinson. I'm sure there are some other guys. But he's definitely up there. My dream that to shawn watson and alan robbins find each other somewhere. That would be so beautiful we would just see. We would obviously his stars stars. I don't care where it is. I just want those. Two guys playing together soulmates. Everybody up incredible numbers and they went a bunch of games or manifesting that right now An not a skill position player but the inverse of what. We're talking about and one that i'm interested to see what happens. Is bud dupree. Because he's going to get a little bit of the okay yeah. Production is acts. But look who you were playing with. Look at all the pass rushers in pittsburgh who all made life easier for each other right. And i think it's a fascinating like he's a really good player right but he's a bit of a high quality. Generalists does a lot of things really well hard to say exactly like one thing where it's like. Oh bud dupree is the best player at doing this. And that's an interesting position to be in this year. I think because you can. You can kind of start to poke holes in the case. Which i think is a little bit silly because the big picture is that. He's a super good player. But that's a test case. I think for what happens to a guy at the higher end of the market in this strange year because you can still put together the case where teams might start to. Penny pinch a little bit. So i'll be interested to see what happens with him kind of in the in the inverse way from what we're talking about so the steelers and the bengals and the ravens are. There are the three teams that have multiple players on the non that in theory could have intact One both sides of the ball for the steelers juju who basically priced himself out of bit promote really good and they have chase claypool all that stuff and and do just gonna commit a lot of money. bud dupree the side of the ball worn. Ask you this with with the two players. They're losing with ben rothlisberger coming back next year. Broad question are the steelers is going to be good. I think the steelers are going to be good. I don't know that they're going to be great. But i think going to win team. I think they will have a floor. As long as ben doesn't get hurt of seventy eight wins and they've got a ceiling of yet ten ten to eleven depending upon how everything breaks around them. I don't personally think that juju was that he he was not a difference maker for them and they've they're just so good at bringing in wide receiver talent that i think they will be fine. I also like the move that they made in the off season with getting rid of their coordinator randy fichtner and allowing matt candidat to take over the reins there. I think there were a lot of things that canada was brought to pittsburgh. Four prior to twenty twenty that he wanted to try to incorporate but we are dealing with an abbreviated offseason and somebody else who was ultimately calling the shots there as the oc which was restricting some of his creativity and things that he wanted to incorporate with a more defined offseason that while it is still being played in the midst of a pandemic. We've got a clear cut. Game plan is to what we're going to be doing here. This offseason with working in some of the things that canada wants to do plus his experience from last season. I think the offense is going to look a little bit different. It's not going to be hopefully ask predictable and defensively. They still have a lot of good players there One of the interesting things about bud. Dupree for instance is you've got guys who were able to put up numbers with as indicated different system. Different coaches Different around him against a certain level of competition now he's viewed as to. What was he able to do the last couple of years but going to a new team that's going to put him possibly with a with different types of players around him ask him to a slightly different role potentially maybe a bigger more expanded role with a different coach against different offensive players. He's he may not look the same. And you may be paying for what you were seeing as opposed to paying for what you're going to be getting and that's kind of one of the perils. I'm not. I'm not saying that. That's definitely going to be the case for him but it very well could happen because that defense overall top to bottom was very good in. He was part of that but asking him to stand on his own. And do those things and do more of that those things because he's commanding a higher price in free agency may be a challenge will just let the listener knows that the titans released malcolm butler another intriguing free agent on the market and and yes like no other way so i got distracted by that but the point that i wanted to make is I'm with you warren. That seven wins for the steelers as a around. The floor makes a lot of sense. I just wanna throw out there. That ben roethlisberger might not be got anymore. The nor i think we're on the same side of this and i think we both kind of our. I don't wanna jaws dropped but when you said warren that this doers are gonna be good. I think we both kind of looked at each other and zoom. And we're like wow where this one going on. Because i really do think that roster there is really good. I think kevin colbert. He wanted best journal managing football. I think mike tomlin's a really good coach. I ain't that roster stacked. But i think that the quarterback position is really important. And i think ben rothlisberger has a chance has a chance to be like unbelievably bat. And we've seen what the backup options have been well two years ago they still want. What eight with mason rudolph starting almost every game and and and duck. Hodges so i just think that. I i give him a lot of grief right but their head coach. There does a very good job of having a a decent enough floor with almost every single team. Mike tomlin does a good enough job with getting these guys ready to play games. They absolutely lose games that they should win too often. defensive schemes with keith butler or terrible. They've got issues there. They had issues with their offense coordinator but now he's gone. I don't disagree whatsoever. I think. Ben rothlisberger absolutely could have trouble this season and not perform to the level that we think that they need to get him to perform at in order to make the playoffs. But i still think that it would be surprising at least for me to see him. Have a just a horrendous season. That makes the steelers. Go foreign twelve like i. I don't perform thirteen with seventeen. I don't see that happening. I still see. Seventy eight wins is like their floor. I because they're going to be enough enough close one score games. They'll be able to scratch and claw their way to record this. Close to five hundred. In my opinion. I'm with you. And i think we're settling here is that it's actually a huge testament to the more stable factors in that organization because again the the quarterback might be really terrible. Both those things can be true and it would be. It would result in seven months. I think i think that's like mingka. Fitzpatrick was winning games. Bhai himself over the past two year. Like this is it's a good roster and it just shows you what the floor is when you have a good yemeni coach in a lot of talent. So ben roethlisberger is just sort of separate from everything else there and he limits them and they're not gonna win fourteen games next year But the kevin coburn. Mike tomlin keep them on against all right. Let's go through quickly before we get into to warns big fish and free agency by the way. Is there any other tag dots. Either of you guys had that we didn't ask about that. Patriots shouldn't have tagged. Joe tony last year like they didn't do it again and he's going to be free agent. Why did they do that last year. What was the point of that. A rhetorical question presented four. Okay i didn't. I didn't know you know. Do you think they should have signed him. They i mean either signed are just let him go then All right so really matter with lethal Let's let's lead that into the discussion about the patriots here. So they traded for trump round today They're obviously going to retool their offensive line a little bit Nora this line in two thousand twenty one looks like what It's just so hard to know when you don't know who the quarterback is because they prioritize. I mean it. It's funny that we're talking about trent brown. Who's like the largest humor. I've ever seen in my entire life person. They've prioritized size with their lineman and a lot of cases there's some exceptions like david andrews has been an exception to that but in general they have a pretty clear physical prototype that they liken those guys and i think it's really interesting to just look at how some of those parameters that they've laid out influence who eventually will make sense in that system. I mean just. The trent brown story with new england is hysterical right like she has an incredible. I'm he's for like a million dollars. Then get this crazy contract. The patriots got a compensatory pick because he goes to say oakland Las vegas and now he's back they will not be paying him that much. And then we'll see what the rest holds but just the the that trent brown has had this Back and forth with the patriots is fairly unlikely. And i think very interesting to me warrant if you were named jim of the patriots tomorrow with personnel power. What would be your first few moves. Yeah it's well. It doesn't go past the quarterback position we've got to figure out what we're doing there and Like nor said the offensive line is very important there you. They ranked twenty seventh in pass blocking efficiency but they did go up against a difficult schedule of opposing pass rushers. They went up against the fourth toughest schedule. So it their quarterback as we know controls a lot of the pressure and ultimately the sacks that he receives in With the different quarterback potentially they fair a little bit better. But you're not gonna get far given what that division is producing. I'm still really interested to see what's going on down in miami With their direction with their draft. Pick as well as as to as to how. Good that offense in the passing game in the passing attack specifically is going to be but buffalo is is a team now that is obviously deserving of being division favorites. And you're going to have to figure out a way to compete with them and be able to be productive in that offense for the bills has a quarterback who can deal with pressure and you can get the ball out when he's not dealing with pressure And so you're going to need to find a quarterback in. They had one they didn't have to. I don't feel sorry for them. One bit they did not have to deal with this for many many many many years and underpaid at the quarterback position while getting the best of all time to Stand under center and so. I think we're going to see that. Has to be the priority for bill belichick to get. This team turned around Is going to be defined a quarterback and get them protection barring injuries in crazy. I just don't see much of a path. They're in two thousand twenty one for the afc east For the patriots are there at best buying for wildcard. Even that would take a lot of maneuvering here. All right labonte david two years twenty five million dollars Nice deal to come back One of the backbones of that defense. Warren i assume you have no objections to bring back onto david nun nora. Absolutely none love it. Great rewards actions at passes. Congratulations jason light. You've you've signed a deal everybody. Everybody's on board with confetti. Frankly yeah and it's also good just optically and planning wise. Just get the deal done today Because now all you have to do is worry about shack barrett. And we'll see what happens. When phrase starts goodyear to have a premium free agent on the market is not a quarterback Because you're not going to probably get one of those godfather offers From some of these teams are just capped out. Because as we said the to infinitive our cap is still five years away right now. it's going to be flat Or just rise a little better. Go down a little bit whatever it is problem. Probably around hundred eighty million dollars And obviously it rose ten million dollars a year for eight. Straight years is different cap environment. all right so isaiah wilson to the dolphins would this quick Bossed with titans. I didn't want to be with the titans. According to social media as a first round pick Is there any reclaiming isaiah. Wilson's career warned trump. I mean there could be. I think there's a little bit of history with him and brian floors From what i've been hearing and so if anybody you're not gonna make a move to go get somebody if you don't feel like you're going to be able to get the most out of him and i feel like they're gonna try to figure out a way. Obviously the talent was there. It just wasn't coming to fruition and so i think ryan floors has done has given me no reason to doubt that he is capable of going to the gm. And say. i want to get this guy here. I think might be able to get something out of him. And i'll trust him that he's i'll trust flora's more than anything to say. Hey maybe this is a great opportunity for fresh start and a see we can get out of them nora. Yeah well so Both brian flores and n wilson went to poly prep in new york. But at the same time. And i'm not gonna oversell that as something that's going to make a guy who hasn't been super successful as a football player into a star overnight. I think there's something of a relationship and a trust factor their big picture though. It's just good to take swings right like they need. They need help there. They need to get better on the offensive line in miami. So why not bilo. In a few different instances like i hope they keep trying things like this. Because eventually you're going to get it right and because you can't wait around for eventually you gotta try them all same time. So i'm i'm all for in some ways. This this specific move is almost a little bit moot to me. I am all for them. Throwing darts at the board china improve this position because again whether it's two or if they manage some trade or get another quarterback there they need better protection for him and that roster is getting pretty close to a point where it's like you gotta have this figured out because you're ready to go and the quarterback is obviously one. Am not but i think the offensive line is one be. So i'm i'm just happy. They're trying stuff there. I'm looking with flyer. There don't have high expectations but it's gonna be fine chi wong's turning the. Nfl took twenty twenty off Obviously made three pro bowls regular player when he's healthy From the best of walking and we'll see what the interest is there. But i definitely there's a place for him in the nfl. Nfl show is brought to you by ziprecruiter. The best team star with rate talent but finding the right people can be challenged. Guys we talked about this every single week. How hard is it to build a team. 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I was skeptical about free agency. Because i've done studies like this in the past looking at a some of the same types of data Just in different years and always come up with you know. Don't spend a lot in free agency because you're overspending in general and it's not the way to build A winning roster. But what i found is that there actually is a sweet spot and you can't ignore it like some teams are doing and expect that you're going to be able to reach your ceiling. You have to utilize free agency. The key is not to use it to the extent that you are relying upon it to build your team and there's ways that you can structure some of these free agent deals and get guys on board that are actually going to be linchpins towards you winning a super bowl but you're getting these players on short deals that are in a lot of cases team friendly and putting the right pieces around them or putting them into the right position. We're asking them to do what they do. The best and it's a perfect pairing and we've seen many super bowl. Teams built over last handful of years. Because not because they ignored free agency but because they used it but they didn't just go hog wild with that they used it intelligently and it really was a big difference in them making the super bowl right so there's two things i want back here Number one i'm looking at this chart here wins versus frequency spending the last two years and there are obviously good teams. Bad teams The bills and saints and the packers are teams that have spent in free agency are winning obviously whereas jets the lions the jaguars lower are not winning with that money Take us through what you start with with the bad teams. What are some of the mistakes. A team like the jets or the lions have made when they're identifying some of these players and i guess you know obviously they're trying to build Enlarge part of freight opposite had some drive capital and the jets in some cases of hit on the draft picks but obviously their strategy didn't work. What did those teams do wrong if you look at the team that spent the second. Highest amount of money in free agency was the loss. Now las vegas raiders. And they went out. They signed the number one most expensive free agent offensive linemen in twenty nineteen. Which is trent brown. They went out and signed the number one most expensive free agent wide receiver in two thousand nineteen just tara williams and they went out and signed the number two most expensive free agent safety. They signed all of those players to like max. Four year deals which is like what the top of the line free agents are getting their given. The most amount of money is anybody in the marketplace and two years later every single one of those players has gone from the team. So it's these big deals for players that Maybe your team's not ready for like you did. The raiders really need trent brown to be that lynch pin difference maker on the offensive line to get them to a certain place. No they didn't need him. They didn't need this wide receiver to be a difference. You look at it. And in many cases some of these teams that are bad. They think it's going to do one of two things. I guess it's gonna save the gm's job right. The teams losing. Let's get some impact players as spend in free agency or it's going to rally up the fan base. Oh my gosh we're spending. We're getting some good players because what do fans want. Fan average fans are sitting there like man. My team sucks were losing. Let's get some good players in here. You don't know how draft picks are gonna turn out but at least you can see all my god. This guy he at least was good the last few years for a different team. He should be great for our team. And so there's this Unnecessary were kind of like to to eye of optimism. When you're looking at guys in free agency thinking what they did on their other teams is going to translate perfectly to what we need in our team and generally doesn't happen especially to the guys that you end up paying top dollar now. There are exceptions to every rule. There's no doubt about that but by and large. That's what ends up happening. And that's where you get some of these teams that are spending on average a hundred and thirty one hundred and forty million dollars in free agency last couple years. The only way that you're spending that extreme because the average in the nfl has been down. Eighty six million is by getting some of these massive deals for big name players the tops at their position. Nor i wanna talk about another warns points but you know one of the things he talks about is how quickly teams can actually turn around now and for agency And how many players on super bowl winning team tampa bay. Kansas city new england out the are in the first contract either via draft or via free agency and actually some of the audit skill guys especially in tampa bay where were via free agency. You've done a lot of reporting on how teams have turned around. Yeah you did. The buffalo p seemed. You've done handful of things on his teams that they went from from bad to good or good to great When you look at how teams turn around now Using free agency smartly as warren discusses in this piece Using the draft. How do you what do you think of. The core tenants have just just building team right now in twenty twenty one well. I have a question for warren. That i think is important to this because the answer to your question coming is often. There's real pain Of the salary cap variety and otherwise. It has to come before you're able to do that. Buffalo had that year where they were carrying. I think sixty million dead money used in history and they just said we're going to rip the band aid off and trust me when i say it hurt. Because i've talked brandon beane about this and heard him explain how badly he wanted to find a higher quality quarterback then they were able to find in terms of the backups. Or at one point. They thought they were going to be bridged. Quarterbacks for josh allen because they wanted him to have a different runway into the nfl then he ended up having and they could because they didn't have the money for it say tried aj mccarron and that didn't work out. And then that's how we got to the nathan peterman experience which was really not good news flash so the thing that's interesting and it actually moved back to the saints and i know i'm sort of half kidding about that but what we're seeing and again with new orleans. It's just like okay. When is it coming. We thought it was. This year is next. Year is the year after that. Like when you have to have these short periods of cleaning out the bucks and then you get to remake the roster as you would like to and so the question for warren is if we are seeing teams. Do this more often and and we have right. The dolphins did at the jaguars. Did it. that's coinciding with moves me to acquire draft capital but. I don't think that we can ignore what's happening with their finances to. That's following this pattern. If you have money to spend how do you not overpay because pain kind of defines free agency and a lot of ways like you just explained so. Is it more a matter of doing shorter. Turn deals or are there. Ways that teams can try to find actually lower average annual value contracts for guys when they go through one of those years where they've got the money they don't necessarily have to spend every penny like the bills are good example right. They didn't just go. They added offensive line depth. They got cold beasley like they weren't fully fully fully bailing out. You don't have to do that. But i'm curious what your approach is to spending the money that you do have when you are one of these teams in one of these situations the one thing that i can say to that is inevitably. There are gonna be some teams that need to spend. You know. there's certain floor. You gotta spend too so there are going to beat some teams like that. But that that point i think what you wanna be also keeping your eyes on is the opportunity that exists when you don't cut a player and you let him leave in free agency by signing guys to deals that will allow them to reach the conclusion of that deal and leave in free agency which gives you an extra compensatory selection and that will help your team even further so when you're signing guys the big deals that are four years for a lot of money. You're getting the best guy you don't really need to use him. You don't know how to use him. He's not gonna be a difference maker and the ended up cutting him before that's over you. You're getting nothing out of that. But to your point you gave a suggestion. Maybe you sign a guy to a shorter term deal then you keep them for the life of his contract. He leaves in free agency. Now you can get a kick out of that so there are. There's not one right. perfect solution. Free agency is a messy game to begin with but there are some teams that are figuring out more intelligently than others in the goal in my opinion if you are one of these bad teams and you do have money to spend you. Need the set your priorities and figure out your plan very straightforward. What is our goal this season but two to three years. Like whoa where we headed. If we're not gonna do well this season anyways like where are we trying to get to end. It may be painful and you may go through the seasons. Where it's it's terrible. And you're not gonna have the call the runway for josh allen but the ultimate goal for any of these teams. That's bad defined a quarterback and win a super bowl when he's on his rookie deal and that's what all of these bad teams should be doing. If you can't do it this year figure out how you're going to get in position so that you can do it next year. And you don't need to have a perfect team when the quarterbacks or rookie as long as you have a team that's going to be headed in the right direction. When he's in year two to year three that that's really the sweet spot for a lot of these teams. Okay so this is a big question. But when i look at the the winds versus free agency spending and see the bills in in the right quadrant i see the saints. I see the browns. I see the packers And then obviously the teams that don't spend And that's different category. But who's the best gm in the offseason at signing players. If you look at a franchise and he's okay. These are are the guys who are the model. Everybody should look at this. Gm as the model for how to spend money and free agency. Where do you go on man. I'm actually curious to hear with experience talking some of these guys. But she mentioned a guy in brandon. Bean who has done a great job. The last several years. I think is difficult. You you have a guy like kevin who they don't really spend much but they seem to have an eye for getting certain players But it's hard to have this like long term sustained success. It's it's easy to be good at a few strong years and put together a team for few strong years. I mean we saw what howie roseman did. The build that team for the two thousand seventeen season for that run to the super bowl. And how many of the guys. They added that off season. Were massive difference makers turn nick foles and one and number three wide receiver. Their number one running back and in multiple guys on the defensive side of the football. I think brandon. Bean is seeing things really well. It's almost like a guy who's you know in a basketball game and the fourth quarter and work vision rhythm and you're seeing things really well and you have a lot of confidence. She's seeing the board really well right now in my opinion and it's hot That's not necessarily to say that. He's the best that we have but he's doing a good job and he's done a very good job. The last couple of years in my opinion now just to be clear like the chiefs and ravens and seahawks are at the bottom of agency spending but obviously they win so they're gonna right quadrant and you look at those two so there's this bunch of ways to build a team and and obviously you know those shoes had success. We're talking about being aggressive frady warren. How long should a rebuild take in the worst case scenario because one of the interesting things about this. As i talked to with nora salman is how many of these players on the super bowl champions last four years where in their first contract. I'm legit theory when you look at a team. Like the dolphins or at a team like the bills. It takes really two or three years. And i think a lot of these families where they're trying to buy time for their program or whatever it is they want a longer contract loudly. Gm say well you know it might take into your four whatever and sometimes in the worst case scenario if israel cap problems that might be the case but i think on an under normal circumstances. Really only you're going to start to see signs of progress by your to really When you look at kind of the timetable martin. Nfl worn. What do you think i think. Progress by year two. And you'll know whether you are really close or are going to ultimately be closed by year three. I think years re is really that key year in these rebels. I don't really care what year one looks like whatsoever agree. I truly do not care. I care that were making progress by year two and that were really close if not thereby years three and because you know it's it's amazing when i would look back at the players that were in because it really isn't just free agency it's you know. What are you doing with trades. what are you doing with draft picks. And i went back and i looked at the seven skill positions plus the quarterback for the last four super bowl winning teams and twenty three of those thirty two p players which you got eight per team. Three thirty two were on their first contract. That seventy two percent. And we're talking quarterback seventy five percent of them running back seventy five percent of them. Wide receivers eighty percent of the wide receivers that were on these super bowl. Winning teams were in their first contract with those teams And it's not necessarily the first year the second year. But you gotta have this group of talent that you're able to bring in and that's why you're one who cares year to you could see okay. We're close but we got this whole we got that whole and you're adding to those holes and trying to patch things up so that by year three and and sometimes you're forced to late but by year four. You are at your apex and if you're gonna get it done you got the guys and you got enough luck that you're able to get it. Accomplished nora is their team right now. That is not good but you think. The building blocks komo with the dolphins last year where the building blocks in place for at least a rise next year where we say okay. This could make sense. Because i know this is a strange thing to say but i would say a team like maybe the washington football team will be in that discussion depending on what they do a quarterback. We say okay. The the building blocks are here at the right. People might be in place to coach. Good there might be a rise year depending on what they do in the next three weeks and free agency that the draft the panthers in that discussion as well as that's so you just hit it right smack dab on had those. Those are the teams. Because it's it's hard to like. We don't know what the quarterback situation is right so like the biggest question. Mark that can exist exists but both of those. I trust the infrastructure. I think it's interesting. It's largely coincidental. But i still think it's interesting that both of those teams have invested really heavily on defense through the draft. And those are the cookie cutter places where you gotta write a quarterback. You put someone in and they've got good coaching infrastructure. Good people on the personnel side and other high quality talent. Ready to go around them. It's the biggest thing to try to get right but if you get it right. Boom like even with washington. I mean look like they were in the playoffs. So it's not as other that far away in in some ways like we were just talking about. Taylor heineke you know and with carolina i think they lost like eight eight eight games or something ridiculous in the fourth quarter so now that's with an experienced quarterback and we'll see what happens there. I mean whatever you think of teddy like. He's still knows what he's doing. So we'll see. I think carolina is going to be really funny this offseason because they're totally going to be like the hipster tam and whether that is proven right or wrong is going to have to do with that position but those two teams. I think are really good candidates for it and then probably one of the potentially really big spenders will get it right enough. That's like maybe the jets get it right. Maybe the jags name. I don't really. I'm very iffy on the coaching infrastructure. But one of them will get it right enough to make a big leap warned. The most fascinating thing you said at the end of your study. Was you think that there might be super teams issue and you actually flipped at that earlier in the pot as well. If you were to circle a couple of teams we should be watching and we'll buy super teams. You basically just just mean being able to assemble talent because of the cap because of the bridge does were talking about. I talked about this couple of weeks ago. where i said maybe the bucks were in line to be that a couple of days after that bruce arians was asked whether not who's going to collect those guys and guys who are looking for one year deals and we'll take money to blow tom brady and he basically said i don't know how many guys we're going to be looking at From the outside they might just wanna run it back with the guys that they had But if you were to circle a couple of teams warned that could be those super teams. Were guys are gonna wanna come. And they'll take two million dollars less than a one year deal and wait for the captor reset itself where we looking. I got a couple. But i won at throw into the prior discussion real quick. The chargers would fall in line to me with the team. Be in line to make next jump. They differ from washington and they differ from carolina in that they have their quarterback but due to coaching and just bad lock in a variety of other things around them. They obviously didn't have a good season last year. But they've got a new coach. They've got a quarterback who is that franchise guy these next couple of years like who cares what they did last year. The they ended up losing some games. That was actually good now. We got potentially a better coach in there. We got some better picks than we would have gotten had. They just had a great season last year. And now is try to build this roster thom tillis go try to figure out a way to get the pieces so that by year two three particularly three not so much twenty twenty one by they could take a nice jump this year but by twenty twenty two that they can take a nice sleep To to be up in that upper echelon of teens. I think that there are capable of that with their quarterback in terms of your question with regard to a couple of places that could be looking to construct super teams. I'm going to look at some of the more intelligent. Gm's out there and a teams that potentially are close. That could get it done. I know some of these teams. Don't necessarily have the most ideal cap situations this offseason. But you know lamar jackson still on his rookie. Deal and eric. Decosta is a smart gm. And i think that there would be moves that they would go out there and try to make where look we said what has been one of the biggest knocks. This team doesn't have a number one wide receiver. They don't have got well. We just talked about a couple of good wide receivers out there in free agency some fast wide. Receivers out there in free agency You also have some nice tight ends out there that you could also bring on board and convince these guys. Let's go for a run you know. Let's go for ron. We've ended the playoffs. Couple of three straight years with the mar- We this could be the season. And i think guys they they wanna win games. They want to go places where they're going to win games. They don't just want to go someplace where they're like. Hey we can give you a decent quarterback but if you're not going to be a win games like what's the point so i think they are interesting team. I also don't necessarily know that this is going to be the case. But cleveland is a team that you know you could. I like kevin stefanski a lot. And i think it wouldn't be difficult to convince a couple of guys to go there and particularly on the defensive side of the ball potentially say look. We're just a couple pieces away Look at the progress remade last season in our first year there. I think the buffalo bills are a team that realizes the window that they're in with their quarterback and they're going to have to spend on him soon and they could be a team that would be looking to add pieces very quickly so There's a handful. All those guys are over in the afc. If i'm looking in the nfc we talked about the saints. Having to cut. Everybody knows but who knows what that would be. Perfect her saints. Become the super team. After all this they just add four guys. Who doesn't make any sense that they have them doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Playing quarterback in this scenario is it russell. Wilson. it's russell. It's just shawn watson. Russell wilson kit training camp battle. I retire i will retire. It's difficult to see a team. Like the packers really being just from what they've traditionally done to say. Look let's go out there and acquire a bunch of key pieces for one year deals you'll initially has to like go after some of the best guys though you just have to get guys that are going to be good fits that you were lacking last season. I mean some of these guys okay. Some of the best. Gm's the moves that they can make him free agency as long as they're not overspending are saying. This is where we actually needed. A guy like this one who i can get for one year or that guy who i could get for two years So another thing to be if you're really getting creative here and other teams are trying to slim salary cap down trading we've seen teams do this where they trade picks for players right like get rid of this picking get this player instead and that could be a way that you're going to Build up so these not a free agent but you identify guy that you want on a team. That really would like to slim their cap a little bit this season and is building to the future. And maybe we're going to see a little bit more of an aggressive approach from gm's this offseason in that respect as well beyond free agency but with trades for future picks sharp. We love having your nor prints yati good to talk as always one's next Taylor swift up so coming out thursday. We're doing fearless. What time midnight again stay out. I'm not sure that sounds like midnight. Sounds like all right guys. Thank you so much. 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HR 2: Got Fantasy Football questions?

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HR 2: Got Fantasy Football questions?

"Yup chris is going to hack away on saturday at two black gold signed for the for the scoop and john pepsi. The nfl and roc nation have announced that the ultra versatile r&b starred the weekend will perform during the pepsi super bowl lv halftime show and bat roman numerals. It's lv it alaron this year now. The weekend has released four studio albums in his hits include. I can't feel my face. Earned it the hill starboy heartless and city of blinding lights. He is the weekend a big enough star to headline the super bowl halftime. And if not the weekend who should be doing. I didn't think so when i first heard this. I thought i liked the weekend. I think he's great for me to answer your question. I didn't think he was a big enough star. The the the person picked to sing at the super bowl is normally somebody that people of all ages enjoy right generational right. So is the weekend that i don't think so now. Lindsay is a huge weekend. 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Have you ever not taken a job and it turned out to be the right decision her. It's a good question Boy generally speaking of ever take. I have a good one on a job. I was in something good. Yeah he's working at cal. Yup and remember tony elevazo. Yes i do tony. Tony was saying stuff and he was starting was hired to be the executive producer of the horse racing channel and he had a very big budget and he made me a very nice offer. Be one of the anchors. tv g. Yeah so. I would call. And i like horse racing you and i owned a horse and we know we and but if i did it it would take me out of cal. I would've left cake cal and gone to tv g. And i thought about at the end of the day. The only reason. I wanted to do it because i wanted to with tony. I thought he was a great guy and i thought it'd be really fun working with him but i didn't think. Tv g was necessarily a step up from out and so i turned it down as it turns out shortly thereafter. 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I don't think there was one that i turned down. I just took everything like you throw at you. There are very few things that i've ever turned down. Because i the way i see it is you. You'd never know win that well's going to dry out absolutely skew and before before you go Just texted me. Who was is it. Perry is that pronounces. I'm gonna guess manasian manasian is the new. Gm of the angels. Is he the guy that coming from the braves. He's the guy that's coming from the braves jesse angels of announced he's the new gm and that's probably really the braves are running exactly the same you know the the andrew freedman and tampa bay and the cubs in the red sox at so. It's sounds like a really smart higher. I hope i hope already marino keeps his nose out of it and let's this guy do his job. We'll all right. The city chiefs have asked the nfl to begin an inquiry with the players association after a union representative held a meeting with the full team late in october. Without wearing a mask the nfl players association representative was in proximity while meeting with the players. The union representative is not subject to the same kobe testing as players. The chiefs have had five players on the kovin list since this meeting. Now if the union finds out who this is should he be terminated or given another chance well again justin turner did exactly the same thing and he knew he was positive and he ran out who justin. I don't think justin turner is in the same category ice because this is a representative coming to speak to a team. It's not a player saying hey. This is the moment of my entire life and my teammates saying come on out here so i'll come out here. That's heat of the moment stuff. This guy stood there and had a meeting with players without a mask later. There were five chiefs players tested positive on the kobe list. Yeah i think he made a mistake. But again i thought that what turner did was incredibly responsible. I think what this guy did is incredibly responsible in major league. Baseball did nothing to turner. So i don't know if the nfl will do anything to this guy. You think they should have done something to turner i do. I think there should even if i do. Yeah oh of course. Yeah but i mean i know. I'm in the minority now. Nobody i mean you said you fat. You said it's really. I don't want to talk this. It's ruining my champion championship buzz. The day after. I wanted to celebrate the world. People don't care about mass in cova near anything so no. I wouldn't find this. I still think most half. The country believes in masks and kobe right. The other half is sick. Yeah but it's hard when the example set by one sports league is it's okay and the next four weeks there's no it's not okay. So they in. The nfl has been tougher than mlb on the slow. They find the raiders. They took away a draft. Pick out of those guys. Not wearing masks. I be surprised if they don't do something because they've been doing stuff to two coaches and other teams. Yeah it's to right. yep okay. i'm particularly interested in what you think of this. And i also want to get lindsay sluts yesterday. The houston texans fired their pr director. A woman named amy paul sick claiming she didn't fit in with the culture. They were trying to develop. She was the only woman in the nfl who ran a pr department. And apparently she's extremely. Well liked reaction round. The nfl was universally scathing against the texans andrea. Kremer tweeted shocked. Pal is the consummate professional and always a pleasure to deal with. She respects our jobs and what we need while never compromising the objectives of the team. The nfl is better with her in it. Field gates from espn tweeted quote so the texans fired their pr director. Amy paulson because she isn't a cultural fit and countless reporters who pr director's job is to work with daily. Take to twitter to express how terrific. She is at her job if she doesn't fit. What kind of culture to the texans. What end quote and finally. Jj watt the best player on. The texans tweeted first and only woman to head. Pr for an nfl team and winner of the roselle award for the best pr staff in the nfl. Massive helping my hurricane relief efforts community events and more whoever picks up amy paulson will be getting one of the absolute best in the business So here's my question. Do the texans come off as sexist here or do we need more information before we can accuse them of that lindsay. What do you think. Well i happen in. Know amy because she worked for the browns for like ten years in their pr communications department and she is amazing. And i think that there has been some rumblings that it might have to do with her political tweets. i mean she's never tweeted. Anything egregious whatsoever. She's re tweeted tweets and favorite. You know like celebrating. Kamala harris in joe biden's victory in. I think there's a lot of people that are kind of using that to connect the dots. Which again if that's the case. I could see being in texas like that being reasoning behind it. But it's still it's horrible idea. It's next necessarily sexist. And in fact. I think they're probably getting obviously getting a ton of backlash for this. I think it might have more to do with that. Which makes it just as bad. Yeah it makes us. Just as i until i see who they fire or who they hire what they're talking about with culture right. It sounds like this this woman lindsay you or is going to get another job. I mean it sounds like that. She has many many people advocating for her. I don't know if it'll be at the head your job at team. 'cause there's only thirty two teams but what you said and is interesting. I have a couple of friends. I work with and makes you know about these guys who tweet extremely political stuff. Yes and re tweet extremely political stuff and every time i read it i cringe. And they're actually on opposite sides of the aisle but either either one. Because i think wow have you just made half your audience mad. because we're we're divided politically. So that's the reason. I hope it's not then. I wouldn't be shocked by it because we are. Very polarized politically guy found the tweet. It is a picture of kamla harris. The vp elect first woman. First black person first. Asian-american and amy paulson wrote re tweeted with a comment a historic day to every little girl out there. You can be anything you dream of. Now that is about as neutral politically as and it's more about someone rising. Somebody female breaking a glass ceiling. That i think it is about her political john. What's interesting. I don't i don't do any politics on my twitter. My social media. You don't do any politics on twitter. Social media a lot of our friends media guys are right out there. They're just speaking and you know they probably think to themselves and the right. They're using their platform for something that they believe is important. I choose to believe this show is not about politics. Shows about fun and goofing around. That's why we don't do politics on this show. But i can't believe that that subtle tweet is what would have gotten her fired. There must be something else going on. The guy is the vp of football operations. There i think his name's jack easter by he. I think he's a preacher like he's a hardcore southern preacher. Okay very well could be the dutcher connecting very well could be there that maybe that may be okay. There you have it. There is the scoop for you coming up next a surprise team for russell westbrook one that we haven't talked about that's coming up next mason ireland seventeen. Espn all right. So here's the i talking about. How the super bowl halftime show should really be multiple racial. 'cause everybody watches the super bowl. Halftime show everybody from little kids to older people. Like my mom. Who's seventy seven zero. You're going to be in trouble by throwing your mom's age out there. I always do and so i'm curious if my mom knows who the weekend is no now my guess is no yeah. I would bet A lot of money. She doesn't know who the weekend or hey what do you think. Is she going to know the weekend Hopefully hopefully yeah not have lindsey. Now show it play the music so she can't feel her face that will do. That's big. that's the big song. It's the cocaine song. I don't think your mom knows. I don't think my mom knows not stepdad. Leo knows that's that's the thing with the weekend that the older crowds going to know who he is. Yeah i don't think so either did did you have my mom's number. Oh he's she's on the phone thailand one second so my mom's going to come in here by the way the masters john who's winning. I think the guy. Who's winning. Paul casey but the guy to watch is justin thomas. He just turned he's four under casey's in the clubhouse at seven under sixty five and tigers done right yeah tiger four under a really good and bryson shambo to under not as good not as good. He really struggled with beginning and then settled down. Apparently i think he hurt himself because he looked like he like grabbed his interview with them afterwards. He said he's fine. Of course say that happen right. But i think he got sidetracked. But he'll i mean he's not out of it he's just to under in the leaders fi- five strokes better than him so far. So there's your masters update. I wanna make sure everybody knows before. We get to that. That thing with Russell westbrook i wanted to get this. Gabe more from los angeles you know. I don't know he won his virtual key for the seventeen. Espn month of giving from our friend. Sal gonzalez had culver city mazda. We are giving away a brand new car. It is a twenty twenty one mazda. Cx five sport with a thousand bucks cash in the glove box from culver city mazda. Here's how it works today in our three o'clock hour so next hour we will give you a destination. Write that down. Then the five o'clock hour with george e they will give you cuticle be caller number seven. You want virtual key. That could start the brand-new mazda. C x five. Good luck and make sure you're here in the three o'clock hour and then in the five o'clock hour with george and l. Elsie all right. Let me john. I said there's a surprise team for russell westbrook supposedly according to nba clutch. Which i see stuff on there. That seems fairly legitimate. Russell westbrook seems interested in philly in brooklyn and in miami. Just ask you. I think. I'm allowed to ask you. Where do you think would be the best fit for him or is that dealing with planning out contract I just can't time to our team. Okay i you know. I you know i love russ. He's a ucla. I think he needs to play a big market. I think i'd love to see him play in new york chicago miami. And wow of all those teams brooklyn. Because they're right. Miami don't sign deroga- don't bring dragons back with west. yeah. I hope it lands in a good spot. That's a fan of his. So what's interesting is shams toronto. Who knows his stuff from the stadium in the athletic says. There's a surprise team for westbrook russell. Westbrook has asked out of houston and sources. Tell me the horse have emerged. As a potential suitor for westbrook. A couple other teams have been mentioned as a possibility for the one time league. Mvp but in charlotte are movable veteran contracts as well the jordan brand connection for westbrook. All right so this is interesting. Michael jordan or very few guys that jordan. Let's wear the jordan stuff. Sure westbrook's one of them And that's jordan's team insulting. Yeah that would be interesting. But i mean you go there and you're on an island. I mean you're not going to compete for a championship charlotte They never have they never have. I mean there's never been any sign of life there i just. I can't believe that russell westbrook would want to go there. There's also the chris. Paul so stephen a. was talking about this on i day. He says chris paul. And there's been wild speculation out there. That somehow chris paul would wind up playing with lebron and with a d. Here for the lakers Here's what stephen a. Thinks about chris. Paul to the lakers seeping through does not want to go to the lakers He does not want to go to the lakers. I don't know the reasons why. I deduce from what i what. I've heard that the reason he doesn't want to go to the lakers is because You know they've already established they're ready accomplished. And there's really nothing to do for them. They would only be doing something for him. And that is ring chasing. And that's not the kind of ring chasing that. He wants to be to be a part in terms of stacking the deck. He'd rather go someplace where he can be himself and be the lead that he is. You know if you go to the lake is he's taken ball. Out of lebron james hands the brawn. James is moving more without the ball. So if it's not the lakers. Max kellerman says. He thinks he knows the destination. And they've got to do this deal for. Russ max kellerman from i take. Westbrook is a dynamic temple. Pushing athletic of point shooting guard type playmaker. And that's really what they need. They need a dynamic. He collapses the defense when he gets to the paint. He can kick to open teammates. In in paul george and kawhi leonard he has not only to high volume scores but they're high percentage scores. They can both really shoot. And i know you can talk about paul george hitting the side of the backboard can shoot when the time comes. That's always going to be the question but in terms of making the team better. They need dynamism at the one. So he the clippers are the place where c. p. three should land. How what kind of would he be with the clippers Interesting when i don't know again quite leonard is used to be in the man there. Yep you know. He needs the ball chris. Paul is going to have the well chris. Paul george play together in oklahoma city. They didn't win anything true. And the clippers traded him with steve bombers the owner. I know doc probably was the one behind the trade different regime Same owner jerry. West making you know advising him. So i would he be welcome back there. It's a very good question. I you know what i think. A lot of a lot of money. He would make them a much better team. Make them much more dangerous team coming up next for you. Matthew berry is going to join us. Yeah so it is fantasy football time and john a question. I wanna ask matthew about my fantasy team is. Don't ask them any questions about your team. You ask about my career. Your career is the worst fantasy player i've ever seen. So here's the deal. If you have got a dilemma in other words you've got Ben rothlisberger who now. It looks like it's going to play or you wanna play tula. You've got to make a decision between the two. That's what matthew berry is especially good at so light up. The phones. Eight seven seven seven ten. Espn all you guys. Play fantasy football just like us and you can also tweet us at venice. Mace m. a. s. e. or la ireland and. We will pass those along to matthew to matthew berry. The talented rodeo is coming up next for you mesa in ireland seventeen. Espn and matthew berry appearances brought to you by corona extra. Our game day beach is back. Always enjoy the game with corona extra an official survey of the los angeles rams and joining us right now. Is the man matthew berry the talented. Mr roadshow matthew. What's up man. Not much say the for week. Ten can't believe we're already here. It did happen very quickly right so matthew. I wanted to start with this. I have a player that you have in a lot of leagues and it was incredibly frustrating. Last week the packers kept getting inside the red zone in many cases inside the five yard line. And i'm thinking oh good. I have aaron jones. Yeah they'll give him the ball. They never gave him the ball. He i mean he never got. You never sniffed the end zone when when that happens. I think aaron rodgers ended up throwing for touchdowns on all those occasions were jones could have rushed it last year. That was a run. They he had like twenty touchdowns. So if you if you have air jones like you do and like i do. Do you just continue to put him out there. Knowing that they're throwing more now and just live with it. Or what do you do. Yeah gap too. I mean last week was he was a game. It was the thursday night game. He was a game time decision. They weren't sure jamaal. Williams have been placed on the covid nineteen list. The packers training staff is really really cautious so it may have been something it may have been up. A piece of that may have just been what roger soft the goal line. Listen jones still having a great. You know listen no one you know. I'm the one that started hashtag. Free aaron jones so like no one is pound the table more for. But i'm not panicked at all. You know it was frustrating in that particular game against the niners. But he's going to be just fine going forward like he's still you know if we were redrafting today for the rest of the season. It'd be one of the first five running backs off the board. No questions asked and play the jaguars if he doesn't score this week against the jaguars then i think we can start to panic a little bit but ultimately I'm totally comfortable with aren. Jones is a top five running back. So i'm sure you heard about this matthew. 'cause you follow this world really closely. But i had dominating eighty seven to fifty six win in fantasy football this week. Hey mace what place are you in now after that big win. I am still in last. But as commissioner said if you ever get mccaffrey back your team is going to be a force. Mccaffrey has act. I mean isn't he sinking. Fantasy teams everywhere. It's been a really tough season for everyone that had the number one overall pick took christian. Mccaffrey thought they got this in the bag. And then haven't had him for much of the season. Obviously hopefully you were able to get mike davidson. Sound like you were able i do. I have mike davis. Yeah okay so there. You go but mike davis as much as he's built an admirably he christian. Mccaffrey right the last three games that we was filling in for mccaffrey didn't play great. You know obviously it looks like he's going to get the start this week at home against the buccaneers. That's a tough match-up against tampa bay although davis did have eight receptions the Earlier in the year against tampa when they played the first time i look. It's it's been tough. I mean it's been really really tough with mccaffrey News came out yesterday that he got a second opinion. He's gonna miss this week but they're hopeful that he can play next week in week. Eleven remember the panthers do have a buy in week thirteen. So that's something to keep in mind with mccaffrey. But there's no question. It's been really frustrating. year for a guy that prior to this year had literally never missed practice. Yup forget intrigued by like had never missed a practice. I think he was limited in practice one time in his entire career but he's never missed a practice and basically half the season. Let's get some callers in here for matthew. Here's giovanni in highland park. Hey giovanni you're on seven ten. Espn what's your question for. Matthew berry eight method. So i should let him know beforehand my winning back there and good sunday bidding starting both washington running back because my other two guys most dirt and breeder are hurt. So what do you say man. I like both guys. i mean. Listen you know you sort of the same thing twice when you said my running back. Depth isn't good. You started told me that when you told me you were starting running washing the guys Kind of asked and answered already. But what i will tell you. My friend is that. I actually think if ever there was a week where you had to sort of like you know. Hold your nose a little bit and start those guys. I actually like him. I i haven't told who gives us as a as a top twelve play this week. I have judy mckissick as a top twenty play. Look alex smith likes to throw the quarterback alexa throw to the running back. A dinka dunker You know Mckissic got. I think nine targets last week for washington. And he's been he's been legitimate. So both guys made the loveless this week lines one of the worst teams. The nfl in terms of both fantasy points allowed to two opposing running backs and most receptions allowed to opposing running back so they really struggle not just with running backs but especially pass catching running backs so if there was a week i think and mckissic. It'll be fine this week. Thanks giovanni hey matthew i wanted to ask you something i you know i noticed you were on. Bill simmons podcast. This week we had a give and take with. Alex crusoe about you and i answered this. Anyway you want but who is the biggest or most unusual name who has ever asked you for fantasy advice. What comes to mind when asked you that. That's the the most unusual fantasy i mean. Who's ever hit you up for advice. Jazy jay z has hit you up for advice. Yes wow you. Remember his specific question. No i mean. I've i've posted about this on social media like the. The story is very simply this. And i've told this story before but eight years ago. I got a call from a mutual friend says to me. I want to give this guy your phone number. I'm gay sure So i got a call from a guy says hey matthew. My name is mike Big fan of you but my whole league were big fans. You were having our draft new york on august twenty eighth. We'd love for you to come by and you know just sort of critique our picks you know we're just sort of hang out you know and hang out with us all night. I'm like listen mike. I'm super appreciative. That's flattering but you know. August busiest mont them. New york's two and a half hours. Away i just. I don't really just go to random people's drafts and hang out for three or four hours. I'm sorry and he goes well. it's jay z's league. What time do you need me. I mean i also So anyway so. Yeah i went there. It's it's the guts league the famous got league and jay z's in it Chris paul is in it and like sort of these titans of Of the hip hop are in this league. Irv dot is in it The mike that i mentioned that story mike kaiser. Who's the president of atlantic records Steve stoute is in it Jesse it's ler color. The atlanta hawks. So it's like it's it's insane group of people want whereas runs roc nation. Sports is rich climate. Who's kevin durant business partner. He's in it and so on and so forth and so So yeah for the last eight years This year we did the draft by zoom for the last eight years. I have gone to that draft and and hung out and so in sort of giving advice to all of them and You know in jay is one of them. So isn't that great. Hey let me throw some stuff out. You off. Twitter alan robinson or jerry jeudy allen robinson. Both guy showed up on the injury report today. And i do think jerry jeudy has a big second half but it's alan robinson this week Against minnesota on monday night assuming he plays again. Both guy showed up on the injury report today which you never like to see a mid week appearance on the on the injury report. Derek carr lamar jackson. Can you believe it's come to that. Isn't it amazing. Lamar jackson is the biggest fantasy disappointment. Non injury related this year. He's qb eleven points per game basis. But i think it's still lamar jackson. Karsh have a ice game but he just doesn't have the upside that Lamar jackson does by the way you said. You said matthew that he's qb eleven. Who's qb one who's been the is it mahomes. Russell wasn't who's been the best fantasy quarterback so far this year. Yeah it's it's It's russell it's russell wilson right there with mahomes was russell. It's russell. Wilson has been Obviously fantastic Mahomes has been awesome. justin. Herbert has been amazing. Grace it's all those guys Right there was awesome. Obviously before he got hurt but Russell wilson's right now. The the number one quarterback in fantasy. Aj brown or allen. robinson. I'm gonna go with aj brown just because again ag ground place tonight. And i'd rather. Oh by the way. I that back by the way tyler. I just realized last week. Kyla murray past russell wilson kyla mery quarterback or joe burrow ami kyla murray's number one russell wilson's number two. They both been fantastic. House has mahomes. And and herbert But yeah give me. I'm gonna say start. Aj brown tonight. It's tough matchup with the colts but just because it was a knee issue. I don't have much more. I don't have much detail. Other than the fact that allen robinson was limited in practice today with a knee issue. It's still early in the week. It's the monday night game. But i would hate for somebody to get to monday night. And they don't have alan robinson and browns just been so lights out recently. I i'd start age brown. How about joe burrow burrow. It's tough match up on the road to pittsburgh but they throw so much I'm gonna go with borough increased one darius slayton or emmanuel sanders. I'm going to go with emmanuel sanders. Starting to us being used you know he's he's got the higher ceiling I'm sorry to hire floor. Feels like it's it's all shepherd and ingram these days for the for the giants golden tate. Maybe back slayton is one of those guys. Like they're gonna take two shots to them deep and if he hits one of those your your day is made but if they don't it's just it's tough sledding there. Let's get a caller two in here chance in newport beach. Hey chance you're seventeen years fiene with matthew berry which your question. He hasn't gone all right. I got one of these guys for my flex Mike davis Allen robinson who just popped up on the report things to finish up and chris carson who may or may not play. So what are those three guys. Yeah robinson carson. Or who's the third mike. Mike davis i think you're playing. Mike davis by the way appreciate the chat for the fantasy life that one hundred percent free fantasy. I'm telling you the alerts are amazing guys but y- again we just don't know with carson their p carroll said they're going to wait till the end of the week and just sorta see you mentioned allen robinson. I think mike davis because we're not expecting mccaffrey. Two plays listed as doubtful as it is and even though it's tampa bay listen tampa bay is gonna get after it so there should be a lot of check to teddy bridgewater so give me davis all right so lindsay. We have a new tradition here. Lindsey always ask matthew a question that has nothing to do with fantasy full. Yes is nice enough to entertain. He actually enjoys it. Lindsey what is your question this week for matthew that it has nothing to do with football all right non fantasy this or that in a galaxy. Far far away. Luke skywalker or solo on solo camman. Solo didn't even hesitate there. Why why listen everyone lucas great but come on honda. The honda man. I was gonna use a curse word there but the man you know listen. I believe he's not a jet. I mean you don't have any powers. But i wasn't i wasn't asking would win a fight. Han solo does not know how to use the lightsaber. What ever he shoots. The guy pulled up the lightsaber. Okay you get a better wing man. Hans wingman is chewbacca. And you get c. Three po and r two d two. If you're luke. Luke watch watch those. And i love love love star wars. Yeah i'm a big star wars nerd luksa little whiny at the start of that series at the start of the trilogy looks at aligning. Come on. he's a little warning on is always the man. One of my favorite lyrics of all time is a jimmy buffett steve. I'm big buffet guy. So jimmy buffett has a song called son of a son of a sailor and his One of the lyrics in that song is read dozens of books about heroes in crooks. And i learned much from both of their styles and i feel like that's han solo. We've kind of a hero. He's kind of a crook. He's a little bit scoundrel little bit hero and i cannot love that you made a really strong case matthew. You made a really strong taste. Thanks guys want to hang out with. Women want to date him on the man. Okay so matthew Before we let you go where can people find. You mentioned the fantasy app. What else you got going on. Well obviously fantasy football now. We do it every sunday morning over there on. Espn to ten am eastern seven am pacific. We do it for three hours all the way up to kick off all the latest injury. Updates we'll have the latest on joe mixon and alan robinson and you know and Ten rothlisberger yeah exactly big band you know whether he gets up the covid lists etc etc. Jerry jeudy all these guys we we give you all the injury update so too great. Show check us out and obviously if you're listening to the radio you enjoy listening to sports. Check out our podcast You know we do it. Wherever podcasts are available the fantasy focus podcast with myself feel gates to find your about. We do it every single day. I'll do another one tomorrow. Excellent all right. Hey matthew as always we appreciate your time. Thanks a lot for coming on man. My pleasure guys talking next week all right cool matthew berry talented mister rodeo coming up next matthew berry segment yeah. No the the han solo thing. He actually kind of talk. Jay z story. Oh the jay z. Story and it was fun. It was great all right so coming up next for years radio. Tinder nason in ireland seven ten. Espn lindsay has complained about me talking too much before radio tender so we will go straight tour win. I never complain. But ticketmaster has been working on a framework for post pandemic fan safety that uses smartphones to verify fans vaccination status or whether they've tested me for the corona virus so by the details of the plan is still being worked out if approved. Here's how it would work. After purchasing a ticket for a concert fans would need to verify that they've already been vaccinated or tested negative for coronavirus. Twenty four to seventy two hours prior to the concert. Then the lab or vaccine company would report the info to a health past company like clear or ibm and they would verify the attendees status to ticket master which would then issue the fan credentials needed to access the event. Is this way too much trouble for you to attend a cogan free concert. Swipe left or swipe right. Oh my gosh. I swipe left. I want to go to a concert mason. No matter what it takes. I will come through many many many hoops and this is a billion dollar industry that they're trying to save here. So this is this may be what it takes me seriously. If i can get concerts back if i can go back to the hollywood bowl give me ten things and i'll jump through hoops to get back in their part of it to make sense to me. John is proof of vaccination now if you get a test two days before a concert. It doesn't mean you're actually negative by the time you get to the concert but if you have evidence that you were vaccinated which i mean what they're saying i mean i'm not an epidemiologist. But they're saying could be ninety percent effective if i show yup i been vaccinated person into the show. Yep and we gotta get. We gotta get concerts back. We intimate live shows back. We gotta get broadway back. He's gotta get holiday back broadway john. The whole thing's been shut down. Man come on i saw. Yes we gotta get. We gotta get live. Snyder live things back. So linseed answer your swipe left or swipe. I swipe left and i would do even more than that all that stuff you late. I know it sounded like a lot that you laid out but i my attitude. Macy's whatever it takes to get that back. I'm in i am one hundred percent on your side. Life needs some entertainment and needs a good concert. I miss going to the forum and seeing shows I missed the hollywood bowl. I miss all the stuff you know going to see movies. I miss i lotta friends broadway. I get a lot of friends in the ticketing. Business make their income off of second earth. And i want to get those guys back in the game. So let's go all right somebody. I saw someone post on facebook yesterday. Like commenting on this story. That like sorry. I don't need to concert that badly. And i do like. Yeah who doesn't know the employees. How many people aren't getting tested for other things. You know. you're going to a wedding or whatever so. I think i'm with you guys. I totally would be down to do all that stuff. And then some next one here. A japanese town is protecting itself from wandering bears with a pair of unusual guardians. Motion detecting robot wolf's monster wolves which are made of metal and covered in fake fur to make them look real are outfitted with motion detectors that caused them to activate the wolves then flash red lights in their eyes move their heads back and forth and they emit series of howling screeching noises. City officials said the wolves have thus far been effective in preventing bears from entering the town. Would you ever try a robot predator to keep pests away from your house. Why why trade. Swipe laugh wait a minute you base. You mean swipe right. Don't you wanna try this. But isn't the isn't that swipe left or right is is brian. I'm all in. i've got. I've got a murder of crows that likes to sit on my tree. I would like to have a really angry. Crow robot With feather stuck on it with bright red is that scare the living. Hell out of the other crows so they go away so i'm completely in on on robot detection you. I'll say this again for the one hundredth time. You are out of your backward man you. Did you not see terminator. The this is the end of the world and we we are all going to be attacked and taken over by out of control robot wolves. We do not want these things you think you think like a fifty six old well. Here's the thing thanks. You made me younger. The here's the thing by the way about your crows. I'm dead serious about this. Go on amazon and order. A red eyed owl. Oh an hour now. Here's the thing they sell them. Put the al in your tree. Yup it makes noises and turn to ted with red eyes and outta here doesn't really go right now. Just go go. Robot owl into an amazon surge and that people use them all the time. Wait a minute. So if you're using a robot. Al why would you not use a robot wolf because robot wolves them arms and legs and can run fast. The al just sits there. The al can't fly can't move it. Just sits there and twists on is solar powered owl decoy with rotating head. Exacts what you need you need the power with the rotating head. What's interesting because it's like forty bucks five bucks and then boom go get rid of the entire murder and let us know how that works out for you. I'm going to do. You're not in favor of robot. Wolves i guess so. Yeah i mean whatever works know. Keep the a homeowner. I used to see on my gosh. Wouldn't you wanna protect your house. John wouldn't you want to protect yourself from blade runner. What is wrong with you to get gophers in my garden. And i would get so mad. Because i'd spend hours gardening and then i get these little holes. I tried everything. But i did not try. The owls had yet gopher lindsay. What you need robot al. Yeah you're attack is what you know. What because somebody my neighbor had one of those any bought this fake robot and now everything's gone nice. It's good right lindsay last quick here. Christmas is now underway on radio across the country estate flip to the all holiday format a bit earlier than usual last week. Major stations in key cities such as l. a.'s k. o. s. t. flipped a switch after exhaustive surveys told them that their listeners wanted holiday music due to this year being so emotionally. Taxing is the first week of november too early for all christmas music. Swipe left or swipe rights. Well here's what what's interesting. We need to be careful how much we talk about ratings. Were not supposed to talk about them. But i can say this. Every time coast goes to christmas music. Yeah they win. The month of december in la they people love coast in december. It's in the article that ratings double chris. Oh it's mace. Can they go to the whip month early and will it work. You know. I think like for example. My family is split on this. My mom already has a christmas tree up. She she believes that. Halloween is the start date of christmas. Did she just throw thanksgiving out in the garbage or no she has. She has the tree up in the decorations up. When we act there for thanksgiving a lot of people are doing that. Oh actually this is actually really cute. We're talking about my mom. I'm off subject now. But hey i tried to call her a little bit earlier and got her message. Here's my mom's answering machine message. Phone i don. I can't get concern right now but if you need the name number i'll call you back. They say out there and by the tone. Please record your method. Your your your message would end with. Stay safe out there and wear a mask unless you're justin turner and then you can do it. If you are so busting on justin turner man. It's a different situation. He had coverted. Yeah but in the heat of the moment that's positive. That's different from going into a store walking. I you and let everyone else know. If i ever get covid i will be locked in. My house quarantined and be it. No risk to anyone else. 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Preparing for 20201 Fantasy Football

Fantasy Feast: 'Eatin

30:43 min | 3 months ago

Preparing for 20201 Fantasy Football

"Eight time to eat four. Sit down and get ready to consume an abundance of fantasy football knowledge from ross. Tucker and joe dolan mean now on the fantasy. Feast eight podcast. Yeah let's eat news. The fantasy fees eating podcast presented by fantasy points dot com. Just use that glorious code feast. My name is ross. Tucker former longtime nfl offensive linemen close to a decade which is an awesome way to make it sound better than seven years when you say close to upwards of a decade. It's almost like gives you three years. You didn't really accomplish. I love it close to a decade redskins at the time cowboys bills patriots and the cleveland brown. Noggin a bunch of podcasts. If you're new welcome you come to the right place for fantasy football advice. You can check me out on social media at ross tucker and bell. All of the shows clips. The highlights are all posted to at ross tucker pod on twitter and instagram. We also have a youtube page now. Which is awesome. Youtube dot com slash. Ross tucker. nfl the expert advice though doesn't really come from me. I mean a little bit but primarily it comes from joe dolan who is one of the owners and masters of all he oversees at fantasy points dot com where you should use the code feast by the way he's also according to fantasy pros dot com the number one ranked fantasy football analyst on planet earth. Over the last five years. You can go check it google. It use your googly machine and you'll see that at f. g underscore donating is number one. He's the best we liked the best. That's why we have the best at f g underscore dolan joe. What's up man. Hey rosco too good to be with you here. I need you know we started doing this last year and we weren't on video on video now. I just realized well. I've realized this before but i really need to stop taking hot showers. Before i come on here i look i look like i just went for like an eight mile. Run without read my vases so Did stop doing that right before the bod gas. I just realized that. I was gonna ask you. Look a little flush your your cheeks and face you look a little flush and once and i have a hot cup of coffee over here which isn't helping things either. Know it's funny because i am a. I am a king of the thermostat. That is my possession and i. my body. Temperature is a lot higher than my wife's. So i have to keep the thermostat at a temperature where i feel cool however i take showers. That are close to boiling. I don't understand why it's just. It's just the weird quirks that i am That i have. But but yeah. I looked like i just ran a marathon which i can utterly guarantee you is not the case right so i've got questions now number one. What do you normally keep the thermostat in the winter during the day. It's at sixty eight. Usually sixty seven to go to bed In the summer. I'll let the wife turn it up to seventy because she really hates air conditioning. Now you know people are like apparently. I'm actually relatively moderate when it comes to the thermostat or like I'm a big proponent of air conditioning. I love it. It's a great invention. I think it could have saved. James garfield life back in eighteen. Eighty one if it existed. So i mean air. Conditioning is a wonderful thing But i keep it at seventy the summer. Sixty seven to sleep during the summer. I don't know what your thermostat situation is. Ross but i get the feeling you're like me. You prefer the core thermostat. We keep it at seventy pretty much year round. That's not too bad. that's i have to turn it down to go to bed that it has to be turned down and go to bed. I sleep very hot. And i'd be lying if i said i'm in control of the thermostat We also have two kids. So i too little girl so i'm not totally in charge of that. I am intrigued though. Because we now record this show wednesdays at one thirty pm eastern time the mid day shower. Tell me shower. did you work out. I actually. I want to get a haircut so after the haircut. You gotta get a you gotta get the all the The the deep doo dads out out of your hair. So that's why that's why right now. God okay very interesting all right. This is why joe's the man this is why we love this show And by the way we are year round. And what's really cool in the off season. Is we get into every different fantasy football genre like we talk dynasty. We talked best ball into a lot of best ball. Stuff this offseason. that's my preferred format. It's interesting joe. I feel like the more. I talked to people. They're they're like leaning to either basketball or dynasty dynasties like that is like i want to be involved year round best balls like let me just draft and then be done. Yeah and i love both of them. So i'm joining a new dynasty league. This offseason and best ball season is right around the corner. Ross as a matter of fact at fantasy points dot com. We just did kind of staff. Best ball rankings. That are going to be up soon. And i gotta be honest with you and i think that's what we're going to get into today. I mean talk about speculation station. You know i it you you saw a tweet from adam schefter a little bit earlier this week and he said it was a. It was on monday night. And he said hero was a graphic and said here all quarterbacks whose futures are up in the air and He essentially set the over under. We've over under his on this podcast. He set the over under of eighteen quarterback changes in the nfl. Basically eighteen teams are going to have a new main starting quarterback in the twenty twenty one season. And adam schefter said he will take the over now. Adam schefter isn't just pulling that willing nilly out of his butt cheeks adam. Schefter is going to be informed when he's thinking of something like that. So i went through personally and i said how many quarterback situations do i feel confident. Our i set. I set it at a ninety percent confidence interval. And i said to myself argue ninety percent or more confident that the main starting quarterback from this particular team from the twenty twenty season is going to be the starting quarterback for a team the same team in twenty twenty one and frankly ross. I came up with only eleven teams. Where i'm ninety percent or more confident that the quarterback who either was projected to be their main starter and got hurt like in like in the situation of dak prescott. Joe burrow guys like that or the guys who started the majority of their games in the twenty twenty season. Or you're going to be their quarterback in the twenty twenty one season and i came up with only eleven teams and i feel like that is a staggering number. Yeah i mean just you saying that is surprising to me. I need to go through it. A little plug here by the way. Adam schefter will be on fridays. Ross tucker football podcast. And i am going to ask him about that. And i'm gonna ask about because i'm taking the under. He says over eighteen changes. I'm taking the under. Because of the caps situation in this app. People being less. I think that's interesting. I always think it's interesting. I guess i look at cretin. When i'm wrong here joe because i'm obviously wrong. I feel like january february march and to some extent april our big dynasty months very much. You're saying it's best ballroom. Wait until after the draft for people people are getting into best ball there. There's already sites that have best ball drafts up and people are asking for best ball rankings. I will tell you personally. I this is just my personal preference. I don't like to play until after the draft or at least until after free agency but there are very many people who are out there. Who are saying dude. Like i i can predict. I can get values on guys like kenny. Golladay going into free agency. I can get values on guys like alan robinson who were going into free agency. How many times have we seen a screenshot up on twitter. This week of people who bet the tampa bay buccaneers to win the nfc or win the super bowl. Before tom brady signed their people who saw the writing on the wall and said if tom brady leaves new england this tampa situation is great. So there's there's gambling to be done there. There's there's rolls of the dice. There's informed speculation that you can be doing there in best ball. It's essentially like betting futures. In a way i personally i like to focus my time right now on preparing for free agency and all that stuff preparing for the draft. I'll get into a best ball every now and again. But the vast majority the vast majority of most people's best ball drafts are after the draft may is when that sees a really starts up and then june july you start to see the fish come into the waters a bit but may is really when that starts up but there are absolutely going to be best ball drafts going off from now until after the super bowl starting right after super bowl. Okay man. I got a million questions to ask you now This is awesome by the way absolutely awesome. I should mention by the way speaking of awesome. While we're on the topic of things that are awesome. Listen to this one joe. Draft kings is the official daily fantasy partner of super bowl. Fifty five and they're bringing back their golden ticket giveaway with up to fifty five million dollars in prizes up for grabs. All you have to do is get your share of these huge prizes. Enter draftkings free super bowl prediction challenge. That's it submit your picks you will get a free instant prize up to twenty five thousand dollars. So why not. Drawings by the way has paid out this is a staggering number over seven billion dollars billion with a b. to its players since two thousand twelve so they know thing two about big paydays. Download the draftkings at now use promo code. Ross to enter the free fifty. Five million dollars super bowl prediction challenge. Everyone gets an instant prize up to twenty five thousand dollars just for playing so use promo code. Ross now enter the free fifty five million dollars super bowl channel only draftkings the official daily fantasy partner up super bowl fifty five terms conditions eligibility restrictions apply see draftkings dot com for details. While we're on that joe. I do want to talk about the conference championship game and the first question i have for you is how did you do on. Dfs on the sunday slate at draftkings. How how did you. How did your fantasy sunday go. Well i think. I built everything kind of around a really cheap tight. End cameron bright and that ended up working out pretty well. 'cause he scored a touchdown. I would have liked to see him. Catch a passer two more but it but it it worked out well because i thought the match up was good for cameron break and then it was kind of a load up on the expensive receivers stefan digs tyreek hill. So it ended up going pretty well. But the problem is so many duped lineup on those two on those two game slates. That are just really really difficult to That are really difficult to separate yourself from the pack. So i focused much more on making prop bets and i gotta be honest. Ross a my biggest pro- better the entire week which we've talked about it. Last week. i apologize. We'll talk about process with a super bowl next week by My biggest bet for the championship brown was marquez. Valdes scantling longest reception over seventeen and a half. Yeah about four of them so unfortunately you don't get you. Don't get a tiered payouts. Based on how many receptions he has over that that benchmark But that was an easy win for me. And i had cameron bray over to an app. Perceptions was all which also worked out pretty well but other than that i hit the The buccaneers plus the three did not hit the bills. Plus the three and a half did not get that one of the bills were just out from the mo from from basically the opening snap and you know they got the the fumble with nicole hardman and outside of that it was. It was kind of kansas city. Showing its metal Showing that still the team to beat quite obviously as they advance their second consecutive super bowl. Yet there's a lot. I want to get to with you there. That is interesting though. I if people listen to podcast no i had the bucks getting three and a half at dr king's i you know usually do the money podcast on tuesday. I wish i would've laid the two and a half with the chiefs. I was leaning towards it. But i wasn't one hundred and ten percent sherm home's gonna play. Obviously he played. He played well and joe's right because joe's the number one ranked fancy analyst out there. We'll go through all the prop bets next week. What what What takeaways did you have from the conference championship games. I would say from a fantasy standpoint for next year job. I i'm wondering ross. And maybe we. All those of us are sitting here scratching our growing areas watching these games. It's easy for us to say. But i'm wondering if next year we might finally see some coaches realize you gotta score touchdowns to beat good teams and you know i. I wish i wish that was controversial. I wish that that which that. I didn't have to say that. It's obvious it self evident but i have say it but like you saw green bay. As a matter of fact the funny part was the analytics. The like the win probability. A models didn't see much of a problem with matt floors decision to kick it of course A lot of the might not take into account. The fact that tom brady is on the other side of the football You know but i would have gone for it for matt lahore. But the sean sean mcdermott situation. Where all those field goals he kicked out. Were just mind numbing to me. Especially since they have been an aggressive team is year and he comes from the andy reid school. You saw andy. Reid go for on fourth down with a league with his backup quarterback two weeks ago. So you saw that. And sean mcvay sean. mcdermott coming. From the andy reid the fact that they went for it on fourth and one near midfield on the opening drive of the game which was absolutely correct. Call the back that he didn't do it later in the games and they settle for short field goals. It's just not getting done so i have. I have to make this plead other coaches. You saw two teams lose in the conference championship games. Maybe not because of decisions to kick field goals but those decisions didn't help. They certainly didn't help. Like i think buffalo was going to run out of the building anyway. I didn't think buffalo was gonna win even if they had gone for the touchdowns but it would've been nice to see them. Tried but green bay. You rogers you have aaron rodgers. Let them try to make a play. So i was disappointed by that. You just saw somebody in la anthony. Lynn who i mean you look at the resume. You look at the fact that justin herber had arguably the greatest rookie season any quarterback has ever had and he just got fired. And you would have to say ross in large part because some of his in game decision making that bordered on the baffling so what. I don't understand like coaches make. These plays well safe. Plays just lost green bay. The conference championship game or at least contributed to it. Safe plays just lost buffalo. The conference championship game or at least contributed to it safe. Plays got anthony lynn fired. I mean i don't think. The chargers wanted to move on from the coaching staff. That helped develop justin herbert. I don't think they wanted to do that. But they saw no other choice because of games they got thrown away so these safe choices are costing teams wins the costing teams jobs from a fantasy perspective. They're costing us points. So that's way down on the totem pole. Team should be making these decisions. But i'm just wondering at this point or these coaches going to realize that being aggressive is the right call. It's not. I like i understand. You want to change the mathematics of the game. I'm i'm a big proponent of don't kick them field goal unless it changes the numbers of possessions that the game that that that it would take to tie the game or win the game. I'm a big proponent of that sometimes you do have to use your gut but being aggressive more often than not is going to be the right call and especially in that big stage. And i'm just hoping that on that big stage. Those teams kind of turtles leads to more of a sea. Change in the nfl. Something that we've already seen happen in years past teams being more aggressive. I know doug. Peterson just got fired. Eagles but the the phillies special super bowl. Teams like frank. Reich comes from peterson trade super aggressive this year. Andy reid being super aggressive this year. It it's the right call to be aggressive. And i believe me i don't think about bills fans are sitting at home today. Like a man. I'm glad we only lost by fourteen man. If we miss those field goals we didn't get those downs. It doesn't matter all right so then we get to all good points. Joe i guess my takeaway is like i'm not going to be huge on clyde edwards air next year. I mean it seemed like they can plug in any guy named e williams and that guy is effective and that was one thing that jumped out to me. I think devin singletary stinks now. I mean what. I wanna hear you read on that. Ross i mean i look. They can't run. The football got hit the whole very hard and then he had that drop. I think that they will draft another running back. Zack moss. But i was disappointed in single terry for sure that that's one that jumped out to me and then That's from the afc game bit mainly running back thoughts and then the nfc. I think brady be back. I i you know tough. The whole four net ronald jones thing will be tough year. You know what you do there. The receiver positional be tough there but anyway that was. My thought is mainly involving the running backs in the afc championship game. Yeah and like i. Here's the thing it's going to take a whole off season to parse what's going on with edwards helaire because obviously he was a first second round. Pick which you know. Look good for a few games. He wasn't a total bust but then he got hurt. And then now the ride in the hawkeye and daryl williams and i don't blame them for that it's the time to develop clyde edwards layer and built his confidence. You're trying to win a super bowl. So i i don't disagree with that at all I think the running back position across the board from this round is interesting because aaron jones is a free agent. Are they going to resign him. I would have said absolutely a couple of weeks ago. I'm not sure now. Jamaal williams is a free agent. I think jamal williams is a guy who in the right situation can be a pretty productive player and aj dylan started to come on at the end of the year. And i mean guys built like a truck. So i mean he may obviously drafted them in the second round so they love him so he's going to be somebody who is on the rise ronald jones i think is super confusing to me when it comes to What what what he's going to do. He's got a year left on his rookie contract. Wonderful night obviously was signed for the vet minimum this year for nets been illegitimate ross. Impact player for them in the playoffs. Like like not even just a guy who kind keeps things on schedule as they say. The run game does that. He's been an impact player. I mean i've seen him make that touchdown. Run might have been the best. Ron leonard for abby nfl. Like i mean like that where he the spin move. He fights through contact to get to the goal line. It was an impressive. Run and leonard fournette. You've now leaning into this playoff lenny. Thing he's got an ad that says it on it and what eat maybe understood. His earning potential now is significant. If he puts up big numbers in the playoffs but ronald jones. I know he's a guy who's been who's driven nuts in the fantasy community when you're out on 'em he breaks off one of those seventy five yard runs when you're in on him. He had ten carries for sixteen yards the tampa bay buccaneers to me. I don't know keyshawn. Bonds going to factor in. I don't know what they're going to bring back for net. We'll see what happens in the super bowl. But they're a team that i i still think is going to be searching at the running back position. This offseason art. So let's get to and we'll have a lot of offseason to discuss this but we do know some people playing dynasty or looking at their dynasty lineups and trades. We know we're playing best ball. We'll have time for quarterback movement stuff because that's a little bit up in the air my question joe as how closely do you follow the head coach and assistant coach movement. And how significant is that even like. Shane waldron offensive coordinator in seattle. Wanna make this our draftkings segment because people can play best ball at draftkings by the way and they're going to start to look at these. I think this is where you can get edge on people a fantasy perspective. You really understand these head coaches these assistant coaches that are now calling plays their backgrounds and what their stock went up the andre swift o in campbell anthony lynn and duce. Staley run the crap out of the ball. Joe andre swift doctors went up. Well what's funny about the swift. And yes ross. I do pay attention to coaches as a matter of fact. I'm doing a series of articles at fantasy points dot com breaking these down now. A lot of them are going to be speculation. You know how you know. Even when the rams higher sean mcvay a couple years ago like a. I think there is people who are like. Oh this pretty promising higher. I don't think people thought he was going to be the next hot thing. I mean i which turned out to be and now everybody wants to poach on mcveigh's coaching tree. Obviously matt or got a job and now waldron gets a job and stanley gets a job so now. Everybody's poaching his coaching tree and frank. Right was the second choice in indianapolis and then and then nick serianni gets the job and was was interviewed. So now people wanna poach is tree so you. You can't know right away. I have albion's i have no app. Inclu what arben myers offense is going to look like in jacksonville. Guys never coached a down the nfl. So i'm fascinated. I'm going to be morning myself. When i read and watch the press conferences here but i do pay attention to them but in the case of the andre swift. That one is pretty fascinating. Ross because look at that. Detroit lion offense. Matthew stafford is gone ninety nine percent. I mean they've agreed that they're going to separate them. I want to their official website. Just look look up information about all the new coaches and they have like a they have like a thank you. Matthew stafford thing on there and like the fans are donating to a charity in the end his name and so obviously. The official website seems to be leaning into matthew stafford on the top. Three wide receivers. Kenny golladay marvin jones. And danny. I'm at door all free agents. So you have dan campbell former tight end tight ends coach. The number one receiver on that team right now is probably dj hopkinson. Who's already on the roster. So that's good news for him and then you have. This running back focused coaching staff. I mean anthony. Lynn induce daily combine for like eighteen years of playing in the. Nfl have been coaching in the league for about a combined years. So that's good news for the andre swift so when i see obvious things like that i also lean into thinking man you wanna make sure you don't overrate. What happened in a previous spot because of the talent that was there so i look at the fact that in anthony lynn tenure with the chargers he was there for four years as the head coach. He had a running back finish in the top ten in targets at the position. Three out of the four years and the year in which one didn't that was twenty eighteen. Both austin ekeler end. Melvin gordon finished in the top. Twenty now question then becomes. Is that because you had good receiving backs and philip rivers. Who likes to check it down or is that part of what anthony. Lynn system is going to look like and that's a question that goes that can go on answered right now because we don't even know who's going to be throwing the ball in detroit help ross. I assume anthony. Lynn is gonna call the plays. But i don't know i look at that that lyon coaching staff and i don't see any playcalling experience and i tend think that's overrated on much more into play design than i am in playcalling. I'm of the mind that if the plays are good you can call good place. I think the design is most important. But i can't find any discernible. Playcalling experience for dan. Campbell anthony lynn. Duce staley so. I'm fascinated to see what's going to happen there but i agree like you. Look at the coaches you look at the roster and you try to match the strength to see what's going to happen but you also do have to wait to see how teams are built this offseason and with the quarterback position up in the air. It creates a lot of uncertainty and perhaps for sharper players some buying opportunities for dynasty. Yeah i think you're i think it's a good point whether it's dynasty or best ball if you can sort of play this right with what's gonna end up happening with the quarterbacks you're going to be in a good position i mean what we know. Now is some of the assistant coach. Stop some of the head coach stuff. The quarterback stuff's going to be bananas and we really won't know i mean. None of the trades can even be official until march joe yet. They can't and i remember. Alex smith when he was traded to washington when kansas city made the decision to go with mahomes a couple years ago. I think that broke before the super bowl and they could announce it for like two months so like you to sit here and say all right. I'm ninety five percent. Sure this is going to happen. But what if one of the sides pull out the deals not official. So we'll see what's going on there. You're going to have quarterback battles. I think i just saw some cowboys beat writer speckling dallas white let dak prescott agency like that's why that's why of the teams that i broke down. And saying i feel confident that these teams are gonna have the same starting quarterback in twenty twenty one thousand not one of them dak prescott free agent. And he's coming off a series entry so they're not on their Philadelphia's not on there. I know the speculation was nick serianni. Ani's coming in and he's gonna fix some answer that's their plan. I'm not hundred percent. Sure that i'm not what like the eagles are. Apparently hiring florida offensive coordinator. Brian johnson to be their quarterbacks coach. Brian johnston apparently has known jalen hurts. Jail hurts with a toddler. So i mean there's there's there's situations up in the air there. You look at aaron rodgers and that would be one where you say. Oh for sure he's back. He's going to win the mvp while you see beat. Writers saying aaron rodgers sounded like he was completely uncertain of his future. So even some of these teams rethink. It's obvious that the quarterback is coming back. It's not that situation this year and that's why there was such a a low number of teams were. I'm confident who's going to be the quarterback how the new york jets have the number two pick. We know they're going to have a new quarterback but we don't know who that's going to be is going to be zach wilson from byu. Who's number two daniel jeremiah's board or are they gonna use that as a package for deshaun watson. I would prefer to shawn watson if i were jets fan of the jets. I would prefer you know what. I'm not confident to. Tonga is going to be the quarterback miami. He didn't show anything. Ross that would prevent me. If i were if i were brian floors and his staff there chris greer in miami. He didn't show anything to prevent me from. Trading for deshaun watson if the shawn watson is available so i mean i look at this from from this perspective and it's just a staggering number of genes are unsettled or could make an upgrade at the position that they choose to and that makes this one of the most fascinating off-season from a dynasty standpoint. I i've ever seen in this industry. He is joe dolan at f. g. Underscore i'm at ross tucker. Nfl remember this. Podcast is year round man between the coaching stuff and the quarterback stuff and dynasty and best ball. There's going to be allowed to get into this offseason next week though. It's all about the super bowl. It's all about the prop bets. Make sure you tune in and make sure you follow joe at f. g. underscore dolan a matt. 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Cooley Film Breakdown-Offense

The Kevin Sheehan Show

1:53:01 hr | 7 months ago

Cooley Film Breakdown-Offense

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His film breakdown of all of the players from the previous game, which is what we're going to start today. Now, let me just give everybody a heads up. We're GONNA do the offense today, and we will have the defense tomorrow starting next week we'll have the offense on Tuesday and the defense on Wednesday which was the normal schedule but we're getting to it late this week still figuring some shit out right now about how we're gonna lay everything out during the course of the week but coolly is with me we're GONNA. Get to his film breakdown. We will start this show with just a quick what are you got or two? and. I want to get your thoughts also on Alan Robinson who may be available? Via Trade. But what do you got this morning to start this off before we get to film breakdown? I. Think we've got a lot this morning I. Know you've got some basketball stuff I've just. I've been watching the jets and I think it's because Greg Williams a part of the jets and I just follow former coaches wherever they are obviously the rams and a lot of the guys that that I've played for and coached for my teams and I'm watching the jets team and defensively. They can be really really good. Greg defenses can be outstanding but offensively. Absolutely. Shit and. Kev. You think back to an atom gays was the quarterback Guru in Chicago with Jay Cutler, and then he went to Miami is the head coach and it was supposed to save everything there and now he's with. Sam Darnold and Sam Darnold is way better than he's played over the last year and a half. Over the last year for sure I thought Sam Darnold looked terrible I think Sam darnold plays with no competence and I just think it's so funny. What you got isn't necessarily the idea that Adam gays according to get fired because Adam is absolutely going to get fired if I'd be hard pressed unless. They make the big push early in the season to think that he is the first head coach fire. I think gazes. Created a lot of Shit. A lot of turmoil. He's made bad relationships. He's had fights. He's not good with players. You look even the levy on bell hamstring thing that went back to training camp bill apparently at a hamstring camp and gays wanted to pull him and they had a fight there and then he didn't pull them in the game because. I. Don't know if he's immature I don't know if he's Antisocial. I don't know what it is about Adam gays. He must be able to talk ball, but he is not a good head football coach and he has not a quarterback grew unless Sam darnold really that bad and buddy I just don't see it. I think it's almost more like a you heard it here first but Adam gaze is. Not going to be long in New York. That's it. You didn't have this as a head coaching call but man, did you call Jim Trestman a day before he got fired the Ravens offense coordinator. After Washington beat him a few years ago. That was an all time prediction. Who is WHO's the OC in New York again I mean I know Adam is the offensive guy but do they have no oc? They do. I should be able to tell you the OC is right off hand but I actually I liked darnold. I. Think Darnold are I think a lot of people like darnold. Earthy is Dowell. Loggains who I actually think is a pretty good. Oh see so. I think there's a lot of problems of gays and and it doesn't matter Dowell loggains is the best oc in the world. If any power struggle, it doesn't matter gazes is GonNa win that I'm assuming because he's not a guy. That he is. The Oh okay. By the maclagan thirty eight years old coolies on phone and we are GONNA. have that we believe rectified by next week we're going to have a much. Sounding Cooley but yesterday the Monday I think you sounded fine by phone and Tommy's been doing it by phone and we haven't had many issues with that I've got a couple I've got one. What do you got to actually two of them? I'm sorry. Number one is this Joe. Banner the former team president of the Philadelphia Eagles. been very critical of the skins over the years was not a Dwayne Haskins guy at all but he wasn't the only one He tweeted something out yesterday that got a lot of attention and I talked about it a lot on the radio show this morning he tweeted out. Washington, fans who are talking about how good their team is are going to look back and wish they had won quietly that was joe banner former. Eagles team. President. Lecturing. The Washington fan base. Now on Sunday he tweeted out after Washington beat his former team by the end of the season The Washington team will have proven that the eagles yesterday lost to one of the worst teams in football. So. He's not. He's not a Washington fan after week one and Cooley on the podcast yesterday. Tommy, and I were talking about that this in that is there was a shit load of buzz coming off of their win over the eagles. Sunday, I'm talking about League wide, Buzz, you know all of the shows on Monday leading into Monday night football, all of the. buyer sell or power ranking segments, which you know I do yesterday lot of buzz about Washington and I think it's because it was such a dominant performance. Defensively you may know this, they had thirty one pressure side the guy from pro football focus on the road show this morning sky Sam Monson, who I actually like a lot and he said thirty when pressures is just unheard of like. It's a number that's just outrageous. Washington had twenty six percent of all of the quarterback pressures on Sunday or a through Sunday's game. So fourteen games in the entire league, they had more than a quarter of the of the pressures on one team versus you know the other twenty-seven teams that had played Gay Games. That's how dominant you know they were. You know statistically analytically, etc. So I, think that's why. There was a lot of buzz now about Joe Banner. He doesn't like the. Washington team, he was the team President in Philadelphia. He thinks Snyder is a complete moron He's among the many NFL executives over the years that have been embarrassed by what's happened here, and all of that is justifiable the owners don't want the situation to continue here. The way it is league executives formerly executives want you. Know less of an embarrassment in Washington and I I think he is felt very strongly that until ownership changes, it won't change. So he's all in on. This is a terrible organization, but he didn't go after the organization with the tweet. He went after the fan base when when he tweeted Washington fans who are talking about how good their team is are going to look back and wish they had won quietly. I have no problem. Cooley after a win over division rival, which was a feel good. Win On Sunday with fans getting a little bit carried away. I have a problem when the team gets carried away and I think this team has been a massive over promising bunch of buffoons over the last twenty one years that have consistently under delivered. That's been the problem with the organization I've mentioned it. It's Been My go-to they've over promised under delivered year in and year out, and that's why they don't have as many fans they used to have I i. don't have a problem with Washington fans on Sunday being excited about what they saw. I was encouraged because I thought chase young was a stud coming out I thought he could be a major impact player I thought he could increase their win probability. If he were is elite as I thought, he could be in his everybody else thought he could be and I think we saw some of that revealed on Sunday. The problem with a like Joe Banner coming from that organization. Is there's been no more insufferable fan base then the Eagles Fan base in the division anyway, there isn't a chess steer group of football fans over the years. There isn't a more delusional group of football fans over the years than Eagle fans before they won the super bowl a few years ago and God bless them because they did and they deserved it and they were really good that year and it was on some level. It was weird. I could sense the excitement of of Friends of mine who are eagles fans and how it was a lifelong dream that had finally been realized and I and. I understood that that passion in that that sense of of satisfaction and I was happy for them with that said until that year I mean, if you talk to eagles fans in the eighties nineties to thousands before they won a super bowl and you didn't know anything about football, you would think that Philadelphia had been the team that won all the Super Bowl's in the division because that's the way they behaved. We were winning divisions were going to the playoffs with Andy Reid -An and Donovan mcnabb. Yeah. But you don't win anything the last time you'd want something was nineteen sixty and that's what you. Kept referring to meantime this team here in the nation's capital one, three lombardi trophies the cowboys of one five or whatever, and the giants have won three or four whatever it is. The giants have won four. So in the division, you had twelve super bowl titles, twelve lombardi trophies in lobbies of of headquarters and none of them were in Philadelphia, and yet if you listen to a Philadelphia Eagle Fan, they spoke in terms of being like the kings of the division like their team had been winning all those trophies. That's the problem I have with a guy like Joe Banner Any Philadelphia Fan who says A pipe down you know skins fan we were we were we banged up We're going to be much better than we were and you know enough I mean know we took enough of your bullshit delusional crap for decades for decades. It was laughable I used to one of my favorite things to do around superbowl time Cooley was to say you know there's a big super bowl party among all of the NFC east superbowl winning fans and teams, the giants and the cowboys and the skins. We get together every year right around superbowl time even if one of us isn't in the Super Bowl. To have a big party the eagles you know they're not eagles fans are invited because they never have won a super bowl even though if you listen to him, you'd think they'd won seven of them Thank God. They got the one. They got because nineteen sixty was all they had for fifty years and it was embarrassing Anyway, Joe Banner can say whatever he wants I agree it's been insufferable to listen to. And Coaches and management in front office exacts when there's just been a small glimmer of hope there they've been a very self-congratulatory kind of franchise prematurely year in year out I don't want to hear from them and I haven't heard from them since the game the fans are. There Washington fans on twitter and on and social media since Sunday have been having a time of it. But so has the national media. The national media has really opened their eyes to what this team could be this year defensively which which you know I had some expectations and I'm pretty encouraged to anyway. That's my what he got along with one other thing real quickly Cooley. Did you see that holding on before you leave this show banner? You know three days ago he had another tweet. That the. Eagles. Will Run more now and look balanced and people will forget how it started and how they actually got a seventeen point lead. They weren't balanced we both we. I mean that is a shot at his coaching staff right there a little bit. Yeah. Run more now and they'll look more balanced. You'll forget it. Forget a really. So he just got down to Peterson's office and and made that. We're going to run the Baltimore now. So He's not the team president anymore he was he isn't anymore. All down to people. You know the eagles will run more now and look more balance. This loss really hurt him. I mean, losing to us like I don't understand like the eagles will run more now. Are Are. We you know what? The Watch, the football team will. Convert more down and they're going to look more balanced. Insistently moving forward I'd talk to people say convert more third downs you're sure of it right? Yeah. It's it's weird when you're not affiliated with the organization to start telling the organization, what they're going to be doing next I, will concede that he's but hurt over losing to this team he doesn't like Washington. He doesn't like the owner. He's not a big fan of the quarterback and obviously you know to to get punked the way they did down seventeen nothing and then to have you know the fans on social media probably getting after it was probably. Enough for him. So he he snapped back We'll see if he's right I mean week one over reactions are a staple in the NFL in early September I don't know how you could you know really overreact much to thirty one pressures in eight sacks regardless of Philadelphia had in front of them the other quick what he got Cooley I don't know if you saw this holding penalties in week one were down seventy eight percent from a year ago. Like I I, you mentioned on Monday just the lack of penalties on offense that they just were clean offensively in terms of mistakes which you know is an indication of being pretty well coached and the quarterback you not. You know having a delay of game or he didn't quit wasn't forced to call one time out because he was unsure of of what they are running and that was the same last year too. But I did notice Sunday that they're the games were moving quickly. And I think part of the reasons the Games moved quickly. There weren't many penalties in week one. I hope that is a trend that continues. We talked about at least the football teams game. Having much less. Stop seeing the football team. That was going to be one of my. What are you got today? I'm so sick of it. What did you see all the twitter stuff that got? Messed up, we're half of it was redskins and then have said just football team I'm going to call them football team that's their nickname and I'm gonNA call them. No, don't do that. You're you're getting sucked in. It's stupid calm wash. I hate it's a mocking of them and I think they did the right thing binoche coming up with the name right away. They couldn't. They couldn't sure trademark in domain name stuff they couldn't get that done quickly most teams take two years before changing brandon name. And now right and people are you know La- whatever we've talked about this? You're right. I mean it's it's Ok both GLOC- as far as I'm concerned skins. So, to the entire NFL and it was funny because if you looked at last year how they amended this week, one had at least fifty percent moral I'm sure we could look that up. Even Tom, Brady, tweeted out after week one watching a game that it was agreed to some of the holding penalties. Now there was somebody missed them Washington's game. There were some hold. On the football team. Okay. But column, they didn't call them. So it makes it makes football so much more watchable I. Think you almost have to tackle somebody really call holding. Let's not go crazy. Of that I would love if I would love to see punt returns without a flag on two out of every three punt return. Fifty percent plus it's it's plus don't you think I don't know if it is or not seems like it. Anyway well, and there's some that are. That are relevant there some that are not you know the. Washington game the. They had a legal touch if you remember where ball is downed inside the five native having to repent. Ballers at twenty seven yard penalty but then the very next play Philly had a penalty back up. So yeah. So the special teams, there's so many penalties. Right or were you right that there wasn't one offensive penalty of the seven called. I think I'm right I don't. Yeah. I don't remember one penalty to neutral lemons in. Soft sides to fifteen yards that five on defense the illegal touches six there was a seventh penalty somewhere and I can't remember where it was. I mean I could go through the play by play to to identify it but you know in. Another quick thing. Morgan. Moses didn't have one of those false starts that didn't get called. I didn't notice one anyway. I didn't know anyone. There wasn't a lot of noise so. True. True. All. Right. Let's get to your film breakdown I need to do a spot real quickly and I WANNA ask you about Alan Robinson who may be available. The Chicago bears receiver but I, interest rates have hit record lows, which means it's a great time to refinance your student loans because you can see a much lower monthly payment based on the rates. Now, if you're a parent that has a kid pass this information along to your student or if you're handling that student loan, which you might be it's Time to refinance student loan. 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Kerrigan the clippers lost last night and I just wanted to say that it was one of the worst losses for team in a game seven that I've seen in a long time they looked lifeless they looked disinterested. They looked scared they look tight. My favorite player Leonard who has come through an every single clutch situation he's ever been involved in was. Nonexistent in the second half Paul George was even worse. The two of them combined for five points. Two of eighteen shooting in the second half and Denver Cooley is really a good team. They deserve it. They earned it joe-marie ridiculous and Yokich is the best passing big man I've ever watched period Jeff Van Gundy. said it last night doc rivers said it last week speaking at. Doc Rivers. I think last night's losses an indictment on him. He has lost a lot of games. Sevens is a head coach during his career. I was very disappointed in the clippers. I also bet on them to win the NBA championship before the playoffs started a plus two fifty some extra hurt. But I I really they had no energy. It didn't make any sense watching what? I watched last night I think something's off there and I think we're going to read about it here in the next few days when when I say that I think there was some chemistry issues. There was a report from Marc Spears saying the players were drained physically they were exhausted and they were asking to come out after three minute stints. It looked that way I'm not. Sure why that happened but they blew a sixteen point lead in game five up three one, a nineteen point lead in game six up three games to two and last night they were up twelve in the first half and then completely shit the bed Cooley last night in the fourth quarter in a game that they started down eight in the fourth quarter dating scored their I. Feel goal they they two free throws. They didn't make their first shot until there were four minutes and fifty eight seconds left they went they went over seven minutes before scoring from the field for the first time and they're out and the anticipated Clippers Lakers series which a lot of people yours truly included wanted to see were not going to be able to see last thing before your film breakdown. Allen Robinson would you or wouldn't you? If I told you it had to be a third round pick and then he's a free agent. Next year you gotta pay him would you consider him for this team? Absolutely. Yes. I would consider him I would consider working out a deal with Alan Robertson as soon as I could. If I were Allen Robinson I don't know if this is exactly where I would want to be at this point. I'm sure part of his frustration has to do with Mitchell trubisky. But I think two years ago. We were doing free agent film breakdowns or three years ago and we did Allen Robinson they like. He. was coming off his. ACL surgery which I think he's fully recovered from he had a year at that point and. He's the best number, one receiver that you could possibly get at a discount because he's coming off a severe injury. I think Alan Robinson is in every level receiver I. Think he's a guy that is a terrific route runner. I think he's a guy that can constantly make plays for you. I think people are worried about speed and that's the one thing if you're Washington is you're saying. Is Alan Robinson a true exit through one receiver or is he another Cherry McLaren but in watching the Washington? Game. DONTRELLE INMAN Allen Robinson, and you need weapons right now and so yeah I would that Third Frown Robinson and the Cancer Negotiate I think yes. I would go ahead and do that. You know what's interesting is they went after a receiver big time in the off season. They offered Amari Cooper, a massive deal. They thought they needed somebody else in addition to maclaurin Kelvin, harm and I. I don't know how he fit into their plans after they didn't get cooper I don't know if that was a big blow or not I sort of like tournament at the end of last year but they showed a willingness to pay a wide receiver. They felt like it was a big enough need. There's another part to meet. It says that they will be interested in Robinson. but it may take another win if they were to win at Arizona and they were to know, and let's just say in the division on Sunday the giants lost at Chicago the cowboys loss at home to the Falcons and the eagles lost against the rams and the skins were to and and the rest of the Division was Oh, into I think there might be. An increased sense of urgency to treat this season as a big opportunity and they clearly think that that position is a weakness and maybe if they beat. Arizona or Chicago one in week one also and they came back from twenty three, six down by the way, Matt? Patricia. Just as a quick aside has eleven fourth quarter loss leads in his brief coaching career in Detroit incredible. That's incredible. A mets really hard to do in a short period of time. This is year three for Matt Patricia Right it's only three. Three. Yeah So part of me thinks that have been hit a fourth quarter comeback that they executed in Detroit. Yeah. There was because the Andrea Swift dropped to touch. I. I think that they might be interested after another win this week, and now someone would say, well, they were interested in Cooper before okay That's true and my answer at the time and I forget if you and I had this conversation was Ron Rivera took this job for one reason more than any other. He looked at defensive roster and he said I can turn that thing around pretty quickly. Now what he's done publicly is he's talked about. Culture Change, which there has to be one and it takes time and the military process takes three, four five years before you change the culture and by the way that's Ron. Rivera's approach which is under promising which I love about him already. But I think he believes it when he looked at this roster very closely in late November early December, whenever was that? He could turn around the. Defense quickly enough and that offensively they could add another piece to help out Dwayne that they'd actually be a much more competitive team than anybody was expecting this year so it wouldn't surprise me if it's this week. But if they win again and they start to look here early in the season, like this could be a season like we could have ourselves a season. Then why wouldn't you? If he's that good and he's going to help you that much So I tend to agree with you. You know I love Anthony Miller on that team. He's starting to play well like when he's been healthy, he's played well. But he's not available. He's not going to be a free agent next year. Robinson's going to be a free agent next year which you know and it may be time for Chicago to deal him Chicago did win a game in week one but anyway I. AM here, our I understand where you're coming from I think that Chicago's probably working on a deal frown Robinson. It's just probably nowhere near what he wants, and that's the other is, are we going to be able to work out a deal I think the receiver franchise tag eighteen million bucks. So. If you didn't work out a deal, would you tag him? If you tag him. What did we upset that? I? Think that there's so much that goes into this that you don't WanNa Trent Lott the tuition rice i. The one thing if you look on twitter and you look at a lot of the bears players they. It's a Hashtag extent a our extended Arab Extend Rob. When players do this, it's because the other player that they're talking about is a good teammate. So I. GOTTA assume that not only Allen Robinson a good player because all the players like he's a good teammate as well. I think a lot of Allen Robinson So, I would definitely try to trade for Allen Robinson is just If you're Kaga. Why would you give out Robinson up for a third round pick you have a good defense you need weapons around your quarterback. And you're sitting there saying. Franchise tagging next year if we can't get a deal done. Why would they want to trade him? I don't know they probably would have beat unhappy I who else I mean they've got Anthony Miller who else do they have on that team I mean you know we know what they have in the Backfield with Tarik Cohen and the guy from Iowa state whose name is escaping me the draft choice from last year. They picked Carl. Montgomery Yeah and I think they've picked up. Jimmy Graham. Yet, they do have Jimmy Graham and they drafted that coal commit Didn't they when that the bears? The drafted the notre. Dame tight end. Oh, yeah see I think. Comex actually awesome. Anyway. So. Yeah. But then out there that you don't have any other deeper draft, the Briley Ridley is a guy they drafted darnall Mooney quarter Patterson I mean the the doesn't do any favors right now to trade Alvarado. No unless you don't think you can sign him next year and you don't think you're good issue but you just want a game so you don't do it before you're in I mean you don't do it until you. You're not gonNA make the playoffs. I agree with you on that from their perspective, you said something else quickly and we're GONNA get to the film breakdown. It will start literally in thirty seconds. You just said you know is Allen Robinson. Unitary McLaren or is he a real legit number one? You still don't think Terry McLaren's like an obvious legit number one receiver do. We'll get to that in the film breakdown I guess what we'll do I think he could develop into one. Okay, I do I. DO think you develop into one I? 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I think a lot of football teams, their scouting department do it on at one through five, which essentially is the exact same thing. One through five eight. So we'll just do it on on a nature upscale I like the a through F I think that's the easiest thing to follow. That was always my pitch to you but I was always open minded on whatever you to do was when we got into the numbering. You would do like you know you'd say sixty eight is in you know an actual d can be more like a C. or that stuff's curve that started when you had a curve in there that really threw me for a loop. So I like the a through F grading scale. So let's get started. Let's start with Dwayne. Well the question is is should there be a curve for phillies not hidden. So. Here's what. Here's what I wanted to do with Wayne Haskins is I wanted to. The negatives I and I'm progressively going to to walk you through the game with some of the negative place because you do like follow along everyone does all try to give you situationally the place that I'm talking about some of the things that I'm talking about when they are impactful then we'll get to the positives and then we will get to the grade. The rest of the players will just essentially run through notes. And then the great for the rest of the players. I think Dwayne Haskins. Is really interesting and I know this game is really interesting I? Think a lot of people could be in a lot of different ways. But I wanNA start with this. I thought Dwayne was terrible and third down situations especially in the first half and I thought personally Scott Turner did a poor job getting them into good situations in third and seven plus situations. I didn't like a lot of the concepts and I'm like what they were doing versus versus Egos Defense that you you pretty much knew what they were going to do in third down situations and so some of those plays I didn't think that they're a great opportunity for doing to progress or through. Couple thoughts in the run game. I like the speed option stuff I like the RPO stuff I like. The read option like integrating in mixing those things in I didn't think dwayne did a terrific job with some of these. I think early in the game, there was an rpo type boot. And the defensive end crash down. I think that he could have pulled it. It was a third and too early in the game, and he's pulling it to what is going to be a boo almost with mckissick coming out in front of him. I saw this last year, the type of play as an Rpo boot type of play. Watching Notre Dame play. Louisville Louisville started running last year in the opener and I loved it it. It's that gun boot. You can hand it or you can pull it, and then the back coming across is running out in the flat I thought it was fun little play. ended up, giving it to Barbara they get the I I just didn't think he added numbers count to run the ball. So that I think he, he can look at it. I think. THE FIRST SPEED OPTION He ends up pitching out to him. to mckissick there was a bobble. There were three players outside of Dwayne as he was moving to his left that's got to be a quarterback Cole. And the thing I hate about speed option is in the NFL. Instead of protecting the ball, he's essentially protecting himself. And I don't blame him for that, right? But it's. Like fuck the speed Austin in the NFL. Suck quarterback then these rent beat option. Right. They've been it should have been a full pulled it. Should cut it back and should've taken it up bill and any high school quarterback in America that runs option would pulled that would've taken it up and most college quarterbacks would've. The wings option quarterback. So. Don't run off they had it in there but explained everybody 'cause I I'm sure most of you understand the difference from just a typical read option zone read that the quarterback keeps of fake you know hand off versus what you're describing, which is coming down the line and having the option to pitch go ahead and just explain the difference to everybody. Well. Ends up being two back backfield and so for dwayne. He's got back on his left in the back on his right and you can do this with the receiver. You see these receivers in motion and the brand, the quarterback kind and that. Behind the quarterback motion all the time they did that last year. Washington did. And so he's initially going to key the defensive. End. On. The front side of that, what what would be on the backside of the initial run? To the side he's going to run and pull to does that defensive at crash down line of scrimmage and run down the line to chase the back. If. He does then dwayne is gonNA pull that ball. And then he's going to go an option the NEC's player. On a particular place doing there there were really three players outside of him. Ah there was nothing to pitch. Right. So you just add another back into the elements. It's. It's really if you really think about it, it's old school dive off. It's not it's not speed option dive option that box elder high school in Utah ran every high school in the Georgia Tech and make the first back to fullback and you're you can do it under center. Do give the first back or do. Polling. Run option. So watching the crash. Same Concept. he didn't. He didn't look comfortable in that either. He didn't look comfortable running the ball in particular I. Don't think he would comfortable running the. Zone read that he pulled down the goal line even look slow but he didn't look comfortable in space. You definitely didn't look comfortable on that naked. which was a third to got him to a fourth down that they went for where you're like just run to the pilot. Why are we cutting this one back? We we didn't cut back option early. Now you WANNA cut back and take a shot. I didn't think he looked comfortable running the ball all that said. Just the idea of adding the quarterback is an eleventh player in the run game even in certain situations does give you some advantages to how you hold the safety in what you're doing to their defensive line and how they're playing run. So a lot of these things I'm saying I don't think he looked particularly great in it. But you have to honor. Yeah because passing him because you see. What you seek non-mobile quarterbacks and we've seen that over several years including guys like Ben. Rothlisberger. At least show it every once in a while. So the team thinks there's a possibility of it happening. Yeah Three are gains a good gain in the NFL? So you can get three or four and a lot of situations. And you do it two or three times a game than it. HAS TO BE HONORED Okay, the past game, and this is essentially these are the negatives what in my opinion as I progress through the past game. The first third down. The West Martin mean play. He takes a huge shot on that place still get the ball out. I. Looked over and over and I'm not going to leave hate West Martin from fault on this play. But I think he might want to just go ahead and try to avoid because you can't throw it until the timing of the players actually been created. You just throwing that one out there Willy Nilly. Before your receiver even get close to turn around that timing takes. Forever to develop to be able to trust the receiver I liked that he's thrown with anticipation but I, I think it's more anticipation of getting hit than it is anticipation of his receiver turning around. I liked it. He's not taking Sachs as well but at the same time, you're not converting that third down. So I think your best option there is tried to sidestep avoid when you have immediate pressure on third low. It's not a huge negative by doing haskins. It's more of a negative by Martin and didn't love the play call, but that's it. Do you want to get hit in the face by me Jackson or maybe just try to avoid them. On the ten coach I'll show you. next driving miss mckissick on a kind of a wheel out of the backfield. Verbs cool. Play dead the tight end to the right, and then just mckissick out of the backfield they were running on that side. Just no touch on the ball. Back running a wheel out of the backfield. In it's it's the right throw because the linebacker runs underneath the tight end, which should allow mckissick enough room to get downfield and it did you just have to let him run under that ball You, gotTa think that Guy's wheeling turning his body of the backfield that he can't go catch a bullet his head. Running back, Rivera said that Cooley used you mentioned that on Monday Rivera one of the criticisms of Dwayne he's gotta throw some of those balls with more touch and it's those flat throws to the running backs where you see it the most. I think you see across the board okay. I do and I'll get to the next. The very next comment is that he throws that inside seen to inmate on a second ten on the third drive. It's an overthrow the ball. It's a bad bog I mean you're throwing the ball on a rope twenty yards down the field. You gotTA. Let inman run under that. That's the right read and that's That's a throw that he's capable of making but that's not the way you throw that ball. You GotTa let Inman track that all the way to the sideline this. Inside same route that you see everybody throwing now. Has Essentially. Replaced the corner out in a lot of offenses because it's an easier throw then the corner out. The Wayne's got a one safety, one high safety in the middle of the field. And he's got inman basically one on one from the numbers to the sideline really almost from middle of the Hash to the sideline. They let him go run under a ball. least make it a fifty, fifty bomb where throwing it on the opposite side of imminent. He's really the only guy that can jump and get it. It's just no touch. third and ten the next play on that drive. He lets it go to mckissick way too fast. It's it's literally a Nolan Ryan fastball. The route doesn't develop he time in the pocket. He's gotTA climb climbing. Let these routes develop. He's got to be able to climate move. You can't just hit his back foot opened his hips and fling it. Not On third and ten. To running back Can I just go back to the INMAN play one more time because I'm just looking at it and I just got to it. The. I WanNa be clear in that. That is the right read. Correct. That's no. That's. That's the absolute right race because in men's got man coverage. And he's actually got a step on the guy and you just there is some traffic there is you know he the pocket is starting to collapse up the middle on that throw but that's the perfect example of the non flat throw that he's got to be able to throw with more touch. There's no doubt. The other thing if you add more touches, you actually increase the chance of. Because the ball he threw a no one had a chance to make a play. It's an UNCATCHABLE, right This was Early. In the game. Danny Rhythm, but go ahead. Early in the game, absolutely third drive. And then they go three and out on that drive. he throws a near pick to Logan Thomas on a crossing route on the fifth drive I think fourth or fifth fourth sport drivers at third and to. That's that's just a Mesh Concept I. Think they mess up the Mesh in what I mean Mesh. Terry McLaren running across their. At, three or four yards, and then it's Logan Thomas running across her in the create a mesh so. Free pick kind of deal I. Think Thomas should have been on top it's always tight in the. Guy That sets the pick. I couldn't tell you one hundred percent but I can tell you ninety eight percent of Thomas under messed it up. But that's it doing just panics and he throws hard at Thomas and it's almost an interception. We didn't throw it so hard. It would have been a pick that he's got to continue to progress through. And find another option. One on one on the outside to his left there. Could Iran and Manchester Bridge. But you can't just throw that ball because you don't have anything else. You find something you got to make something else happened third down. This isn't a first and ten seconds six where we got another down to live on, we can't make that throw. Progressing through third eight on the fifth drive. So they're still down, they still not scored at this point. Yet it's ten nothing right that point. Yeah Third Eight. INMAN RUNS A. About a sixteen to eighteen yard in. And you have Logan Thomas sitting at about eight yards. And you're judging a high low read between the two of them. I of I think he would have been. Complete to Logan Thomas if he'd come out on time to Thomas. And you would have picked up the first down. But secondly it's late to in-in-in. It's a bad ball low and he has no chance to get it and again. We got a thorough competitive balser. And at this point, he's In progress to three thirteen. Right. It was. Working yards he had the one run for nineteen yards which you haven't talked about. I'm sure that'll be a positive, but go ahead. Yeah. Well. Okay. So yeah, we'll get to that. The one run for. Nineteen was nineteen nineteen years. Should have just thrown him. Sims is running wide open in front of a safe. Five Yard in. I'm not going to criticize around I gave him a positive great writing get to it and put it in the positive side, but he should have just done stamps. Now, know how it. Then third and thirteen. He just like seem climbed the pocket. You know another one where West Martin gets his. Get his ass kicked, but it's like step up. Climb the pocket, drive the ball, throw the ball with power, throw the ball with accuracy. It because he's not moving properly in the pocket stepping up climbing the pocket. His back foot creating space for him to throw the ball from. US and drive off his back leg. He's throwing with poor accuracy. Field is not very good. And he can make those throws but between. Nine and eighteen yards nine and twenty yards. It was not good. That third and third time no he he I mean I'm watching it right now and he gets hit right when he throws it there's pressure immediately we're should he have gone on that play? I know. Gone elsewhere I just think he kind of moved but I will also say that that's the that was the inman right that was the Thomas He throws it in the dirt Thomas under pressure. On the threatened thirteen. They're thirteen. No I just think that he's gotta find a way to move in the pocket a little bit better. I mean. I know you're not taking sacks but on third and thirteen does it really matter you take back versus? Just throw blanket incompletion out of nowhere. If you're gonNA either way just try to make something happen. On that one, there was no pocket to move up into. I think if he slides right on that one. Up and up and write a little bit. He may have had a chance to look just gonNa have to find a way to the pocket a little bit better capable of doing it and I've watched him do it last year I watch new bunch of times. Fourth quarter you open up I actually thought he was gonNA open a pot in the fourth quarter as he completed four in a row but. He, we're on a run action pass boot. Any throws behind Carrie McLaren on a crossing route carries wide open that day. Make that throw sack fumble. He's got Sims coming out of a kind of a little Arrow route. Like selling a and then breaking back to the middle of fill that was one Santana used always catch him third down situation. And I know he's GonNa take a big hit and he ended up taking a hit anyway. But. He's standing there jacking up ball and it's just got to come out on one hitch or it's gotta come out on a plan throw at him. The next drive a second tanny takes us back on an rpo Brennan ship it get blown up that was crap but still I it's either Imon or Dwayne if inland supposed to be running the three steps on the second Jan rpo doing get back. Then I can see why Dwayne sitting there waiting on him. If it was five steps, he's got a window. He's got it throwing lane even still I think that gotta be out there you just. You can't pull it down on our po because. Even. If. You don't get sacked. Your linemen are downfield. Right. Yeah. That's. Like that's when you throw in the if you don't trust it throwing the dirt because they'll be. About play. is either people downfield or going GonNa take a big hit. Because on the backside of that sheriff drew really just blocking the backside a run. Really that they just call that big on the backside and they just make sure that they cut off the back that for if they were gonNA they don't know if he's pulled it or giving it on the backside. I don't like to get knocked in Axel but. The bulk you can't take a sack even you can't take it only bill. You don't like it throwing the dirt. It's almost like when I say there's a lot of quarterbacks around boot and there's someone right in their face throw out staff. Survive a bad play. Can't be in third and fifteen situations. there's a third and three just into the fourth quarter. Got Throws to mckissick on a little anger out of the backfield look. I I mean, maybe maybe you hit him in the gut and he rolls forward for a yard. But as that next backer inside of mckissick. So maybe over the tack over the Tackler Guard does not run with Sims, who's you're crossing? You just progress the Sam's now that said I think sims should have sat down and stopped his route he keeps running. fucked Wayne anyways. Sometimes, they coach guys on the move but I doubt this was coach to stay on the move in don't coverage them should didn't find a hole there. So I I'm not GonNa Credit Dwayne, because he threw. Think he should've thrown if you to look to him and went what the hell are you doing Is Any and then taken attack Sam's messed up play up. Because you can see it's clearly zone coverage. This is a big play by the way early fourth quarter down seventeen, fourteen, third and three at the Eagle Twenty one yard line and it's the one where he throws mckissick and mckissick Scott to people around him and he's in even if he makes the catchy short in Sims is on that crosser and Cooley like you said like you always here again's zone coverage you gotta sit down in the whole of zone if Dwayne hit sims he turns around he picks up another five to change their moved. Exactly. What it is now, but since doesn't didn't impact that play at all in the way of played out, I also think when you're coaching the running back in those situation mckissick, you coach that route to be run with more width in more depth. Like. He should really be selling like he's pushing more vertical out of the Backfield with whip and get another yard of depth as a back. You can't run that at the line of scrimmage because you're not gonna get any yards and you're also not going to push off coverage and that's Not Good. That's not an option route from kissing. no I think that's just a little anger out the following the crossing help. COULD BE I I'm not saying it's not for sure doesn't look like you've ever was thinking about making a choice, an option route in zone coverage right there. He would've sat down at about four yards. Just turned round and sat down about four. If you did it right? There's an option you did it wrong A couple more, and then we'll move on. There's a boot throw that he. airmailed Logan Thomas. Looking Thomas is running a corner post off of a boot. So the double move up food actually like the play design and I think Logan Thomas has opened. DWAYNE has plenty of time and he throws it. Like rope over Logan said. Should. Have been a pick if twenty three's back there playing quarterback is all the ball and not player. He's GonNa kick that ball. But for that play, if you pull that up doing is just got flattening out. Don't throw it high into the end zone flatten amount to about the ten yard line. Let Him. Flattening that post. In almost like a crosser instead of to the post. And he'll go down and make a catch. Those are placing needs to see more of he needs to be able to see where he can make plays on these types of place. I doubt he's ever thrown that in a game. Terendak. Throw. So. When I looked at all of this. On passes beyond the line of scrimmage, he was actually eleven of twenty, five? Passes beyond the line of scrimmage. Not. Swings. To the back or screen eleven forty, four, percent forty, four percent throwing the ball down the field. And if you really start to take out a couple of easy throws. Like a quick spot route to Terry and. On throws that were contested or there was any coverage or any pressure he was like twenty percent. Okay. So look into the positive. I this. By the way I'm riveted because I was very more than anything else. I was really interested in what you were going to say about Dwayne and seventeen of thirty one for one seventy, eight I was like, yeah. But he had the big plays we talked about that Monday so I know we're going to get to that now but you know the fact that eleven at a twenty five on throws be on the line of scrimmage didn't include some of those swing passes, which by the way were uncomfortable. You mentioned it before they weren't thrown with a lot of touch. He's really gotta work on that. Because they. Had to work on that coming out of allow state. Yeah. They could've been incomplete. Some of those swing passes into the flat. Go ahead, what are the positives with? Twain. All. Right. As we progress throughout the game again, react this. the second drive, the first play, the second drive their opening big with the boot, and he hits carry McLaren's for about seventeen terry. Good sitting down in an open spot and Dwayne puts it right on it. Good throw. The when you see those, it's almost like. You're playing golf and finally to drive I know I, know I can't hit A. I have a good swing, but I'm doing something wrong because not hitting. The perfect at. I can do this. Well. We school a lot of chips to. A lot of those There's another run action pass. Quickly he ends up throwing a ball away that bad I like like. The media, division throw ball away get it out of your hands. There's nothing there I like that. the third and sixth scramble we talked about I if it's a great job taking off and knowing that he's taking off. And also I think understanding the concept on that side that had to in. So they were breaking to the middle of the field and man coverage pulled defenders to the middle of the field. pull up the third and six and tell me that Stevenson's junior isn't wide open in the middle of the film. Going to find that one. And tell me that's not the number one premier read, and then for me, it's I. I asked myself. Is this the sophomore quarterback who's basically saying, okay I know I got man to man coverage here we've talked about this. If I have man with two INS and I ended up getting the left edge I'll get the first down. So, instead of. Seen if somebody wins. He just thought he was gonNA run me. Do you ever because if he like you tell me, you can't simms there I I just don't understand that. Do you. Do you have a problem with him. When you know you've got, you know fifteen to twenty your play in you without any contact and any risk do you have a problem with him turning down? I'm watching it right now I see sims but I also see the complete left side of the field open up with no defenders looking and it's going to be ultimately a much bigger play than he throws the Sims. A debatable. It is. You're telling me that Simmons can't make play since got a lot more speed got two steps on a defender, and it's man to man coverage. So the next player that's GonNa come from Stacey. I look. It might get strong right there i. Since I'm a problem with Iran sims is going to catch the ball three yards beyond the line of scrimmage. So can you catch it and then make another fifteen? Sixteen yard to equal by the way twain's run could have been longer to he stumbled at the end of the run. I mean basically tripped himself he could have picked up another five six yards. And and gotten out of bounds. You know they were looking for something at that point. They didn't I think they had the one first down on the throat a maclaurin on that you know in that bootleg thing where he threw back to maclaurin that you've talked about. In their down ten nothing and now they got they got create something. Guess I'll in suggesting is. Third Down to you got to move the chains. I I'm totally with you and again, I'm not going to criticize the fact that. We got a nineteen yard run and I a quarterback who clearly understood what he wanted to do at the ball there I'm just suggesting. WH, how do we not see the idea? How why do we not see see Steven Sims? That's like a doctor seuss's there this assise even Sim Sets. I don't know. It tell me Your quarterback you. I. I'll. Equation that there were success on the play. Pause posit and tell me that that ball isn't an easy throw. I'm not saying it's an easy throat but I'm I'm not I'm not guaranteeing any in watching this play and seeing sims come underneath if you get it to them right away you do have other activity on that side of the field and you have none on a third six in. It's an absolute lock that dwayne is going to get the first down a lot more and I think when when he noticed man coverage knew what he had going on the other side of the field, he knew it was going to open up. If. You give me that answer as a player. I'm GonNa tell you great job and I'm GonNa say that Dwayne made the made a good play. He'd probably made the right play I'm just I'm just interested. Wasn't like there was nobody open. Let's put it that way. Right Okay. You really did sideline tripped him up. Pretty good. Pretty good happens to everybody. Not, not. That bad but. Okay. So we get into the a moment after Fabian moment slant to Terry maclaurin. On the right side of the field, it isn't easy. Throw carry wide open the it's fine. It's OK does a good job breaking the tackle. A slant to in that I thought was a throw. That was a big time throw a threat that need on a flat out. Throw a quick out to Terry again. Easy. Throw in corner routed Logan. Thomas when the eagles blue coverage is. I mean, he made four throats. He was four for four. He did what he was supposed to do on that drive I I don't know what to tell you other than that like one really get thrown in men and other than that, and he made three throws pretty much uncontested. Receivers. Tell me where the touchdown throw did did you. Did you like the design of the play and I thought. that. That's what I like the present motion and what they did. Yeah I did like that read. But it should not have been like Logan Thomas should've been contested. Tested mckissick Wide Open Right No mckissick was covered on the flat fifty sits there. I don't know what he's doing I. Think it's fifty. It's the first backer inside of Logan. Thomas, can I just say I got one quick question about this throw I said on Monday I love his quick release and I know that this is not it. This is an easy throw but got it such a perfect example of how quickly the ball gets out of his hands. It is such a quick you know flick of a throw and it was accurate to a wide open receiver run a well-designed play for a touchdown but even though he's backpedaling that thing is just out quickly and with velocity. To throw I, I can make that throw but. All right keep going you. Can I think you know what I think you and I could go out there and you could draw that to me. I could not with not with you know. Ninety seven in in in the others coming down on me I'd probably. I'm just like I'm looking at this threat it's it's still don't don't get me wrong on any of these throws he should make. I'm I'M NOT GONNA. I'm happy. Any major throats? I'm also aware that DWAYNE can make some big throws I. I'm aware of that as well. And we'll talk about them when they actually happen. But I don't think that Dr had much to talk about far as quarterback play. Okay it was a slant, play a play a quick out. To four plays in a row they went into day one install. So yeah, I did. Okay keep going secondhand. We're still enjoying it here starting the film breakdown. We're still underway and we are almost finished with Wayne Haskins and then all of it will be seen listen fly after that. The completion to Sims which? Takes them down to about a two yard line. It's a touchdown if he throws it outside to Inman or across the field the Logan Thomas. It's actually the wrong read. The Eagles are running what? Is called a cover to invert. So both their cornerbacks are dropping back in playing the deep halves of the field. They had a safety in the middle of the field who looks like he's GonNa play middle of the field safety and he's actually stepping up. He's the Tampa Mike linebacker. Which player you know which player are you talking about? I'm sorry. Is it the one. To. Two Yard, line, in, the third quarter after The moreland pick, gut. So what who's who should Heathrow to hear? Well, it's a touchdown if he throws it to either in minority. Logan. Thomas. See that's a tricky coverage down there and that's a variation of cover to that. It does full a lot of quarterbacks because they see one safety in the middle of the field. And you get this. Like will they can't run cover to here. It's just they can that got the safety steps up and plays the Middle Tampa in the corners dropped two depth and if he would have glimpsed that to his right. I. Think it was Matt's. Is. Bailing pre snap. and. You can see him dropping deep. And he actually jumped deep more to the middle and completely aboard Inman who's running up the outside and start to collect on Sims. So that's the play that. That quick release will get it done though. And? Protecting his body were again. We're going to learn from that plane. We're going to learn that as a quarterback you can use your eyes to manipulate defense but at the same time, we're GONNA learn what we've had success. Cooley. What you realize from the end zone on this? He's got no sir, it's all wrist. It's all flick. Like there's no step into that throw. It is super quick but the the footwork right is is not is not great and it's all risk the throw he doesn't step into it. It's really it's interesting to watch his throwing motion. It's one of the reasons it's so quick, but there's no There's no there's no legs into a throw for him on that one there wasn't. Well if you watch him throughout the game, it's not necessarily style. It's just why I think. A lot of situations he's going to lack accuracy 'cause it's hard to throw dark the way he's throwing darts. And at the same time, you look at this and it's like I if I was playing, I would have wanted this ball crowns me as well. If I was saying I want this ball. But if this is Nineteen, Ninety nine football I guess at the quarter but cornerback, but you guys brought up that way a little bit. It's fine. It's fine. We got to play down to the two yard line. You just had to receivers open and that probably. You know that probably wasn't the exact right thrown I'm sure he'd like it back to throw touchdown on the next play have. Pain Barbara have to run it in. The two best throws I. Thought he made on the day. Logan Thomas on the third down he he he works as slant to his right. The safety ends up cutting any progressive through and hits Logan Thomas and it's a good ball 'cause logan tightly contested and Logan jumps forward for to yards that moment in the game that play was huge. And then later on that drive. a slant to inman. was absolutely huge. Those were to the best throws and the other bathroom I thought it was the drive open on that drive that scored hit. Logan Thomas on a run action pass. In the middle of the field through right between the backers, those are the three best rows of the day. I thought with the game on the line seventeen seventeen. Oh. Another play that I liked was the third and fifteen in the third quarter, it was a comeback to inman. Image taking forever to get out of his break. This is. It's like when you're coaching high school kids like teach them that seven chop steps at the top of her out doesn't do any favors the corners breaking on the row before inman turning around in men's taking absolutely forever. Doing doesn't have time and so he lets go. It's that was a good anticipation throat. A man coverage that should have been completed if inman can get a head around. Like Chop Chop Chop. Chopped up. Did you eight hundred, ninety five pounds like not come out of a break and this is the NFL. So. Actually thought that was a pretty good throw. The one thing. I would say to Wayne moving forward and certain fifteen if you have man coverage. Or what anyone you eleven lurker eleven plug or whatever? There's a free safety in the Middle Linebacker who are basically zoning reading is. Man. This is what I'd say Work Sam's or work Terry. Got Man coverage work one of your two best receivers don't work here third receiver. Oh. One more big play that I thought he made that I don't think you'd go unnoticed. After, they convert the fourth down. He has to scramble yeah. From the three yard line. Shariff can't pass up a stunt and he ends up getting himself back to the line of scrimmage. Does the difference between a touchdown field goal in that situation. I thought that was big time. After the fourteen one. You're saying that. I'm getting to that play because I want to down throw he ends up having to scramble. And he gets up the middle back to the line of scrimmage. I think it was called the sack. was. Hold on but that's a huge play by doing. He's got nobody open in the end zone. and. Not, taking along great great footwork right vision to avoid a couple of people and get that thing back to the line of Scrimmage Yep. Big Play for them talking about allowed about the pocket. Yeah. The other thing with Dwayne oh I mean. Girl I'm pretty much that that's a wrap for the game. He makes a little boots or other dams that's not right deal, but is a big play call. The thing with Dwayne is if you're not going to start to climb the pocket. You're creating a landmark back there. Especially in known passing situations where defensive ends can turn the corner at eight yards and expect you there. If you're not going to step up. And be able to move. Your left guard gets beat slide up and move right flight up and move back around those. That's what the best quarterbacks do when you watch drew brees. Guys get beat all the time you make some miss you what somebody's got to be able to make guys miss back. They're gonna be able to avoid. For God's Sakes. I know got eight times but the first Boston blitz where he was unblocked like just ducked in Boston went over the top of him. Any survived the play. Who got to be able to try to avoid back there a little bit better than I thought doing did at some point in the game and you can't just become a statue standing at nine yards for anybody to come and start swiping the ball. Okay I have the intangibles. I thought he did a really good job for the most part protecting the ball. I don't know if it's protecting the ball or sometimes throws just such a bullet that it's called protected I. Thought He. He consistently had the offense at the line of scrimmage. He utilize the motions and everything pre-snap. Really really well, I thought he did a good job with his cadence throughout the game. I thought. Poison leadership consistent throughout the game. So it's it's interesting because I see a guy who's throwing the ball too early but I don't think I was panicked. I, I think. There's a promise to Duane play and I think that this is a good learning moment in a new offense for Dwayne and they gotta figure out exactly what he's comfortable with and what he can do. And where they grow from there, because most completions were really basic simple concepts and and so. We've got to be able to build on that a little bit more. So the grade. The grade is a C. minus in this game. The poise leaders friendly and the throat in men in a tie game that didn't. That didn't Ken Ono that didn't. Know about that that got it to where it was that I saw that is. At best that C., minus in this game. But. See you can be see starting quarterback you start getting below season. You're you're not a starting quarterback in this league, you're not a great quarterback in the level. I see. Dwayne as being able to be right now better than that. But he's gotTa, he's gotTa be more accurate. He's got to have more touch and you've got to be able move in the pocket a little bit better and I've one question about him, and then we'll get to the skill position players. But before I ask the question about him, I wanNA make sure just like we used to be and you used to be clear this is Cooley grading Duan's game. Not Dr- degrading Duan's overall ability. He's grading dwayne game the eagles the one they played on Sunday as a Sima. here's here's my one thought slash question. What I noticed a little bit but much more. So in following you through your breakdown of Dwayne. is they need to really get more play action into the game for him and they need to get him on the move and play action a lot of bootleg because I thought. You know even that easy throat a Sims. You know up twenty, four seventeen that got that big play out of that. He just looks more comfortable on the move a little bit on that bootlegged maclaurin where he threw. Back over you know to the sort of middle of the field I. think he rose better the touch throws in the flat look ugliest to me the one flick bad footwork from the pocket. It works in a gets there a lot of the time, but it doesn't look smoothie smoothest throws for him our boots and play action but especially boots where he's on the move sort of against the grain. Yes, or no. I I would tend to agree with that I. Think early in the game, you make him more prototypical type of guy instead of. The, rpo stuff and some of the. Some of the quarterback action type of plays where he potentially run I, think you get that mixed in into the second and third quarter of games. When he starts to become more comfortable, I think quick game. With. Some run plays early and then you integrate some run action stuff where he can take some shots I. think that's the best thing you could possibly do. They didn't do anything to create. Big Plays Downfield. Anything where Harry was really. 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He's the guy that you see early in the game, he sits down on a deep crossing route sits down and makes the catch on bootleg out to the right and you just like he has a sense and he has a knack and when you watch chairman corn, there's nothing about him but says, he's a second year player or he's a young player. He mature football player. He's a good block downfield. He consistently makes big plays after the catch like you see him breaking tackles more than anybody else. In this? Organization or in that organization I. Think he he his after the stuff is big time. I it's fun to watch him off the ball sometimes because he's open off the ball at times or he's he's doing the right thing off the ball at times. How you Terry Maclaurin will dictate what Lord actually at the show. I think you gotta find a way to get him down the field and more involved in especially in some of the third down situations make him your primary Guy Designing create for. Maybe they maybe they were worried. That area slave would be on terry the entire game, but gift Terry chance to beat him. I don't think they did enough to do that. I've was be in this game. But I just don't see. Him having the opportunity to be in a tight player in it's logging. Do they have to do what Clinton always says is you just forced the ball to your best player. Yeah they they are absolutely going to have to, and if you think about all the motions and all the movements and all the things that they had terry wasn't really involved in much of that you have to find a way to make him involved in that. So you can create them if you're playing at one corner, let's get Terry on their corner. Let's find a way to get him into better situations where he can get downfield. For me that's that's Terry played. The most plays if anybody. for from any of the skills. Skill positions, I I liked Terry Lot I'm GONNA I'M GONNA. Sit here and tell you like he's a the receiver in my opinion. UNTIL HE MAKES X. Receiver type of place this year. And by that, I mean the deep all over the top the big time guy. You know what I mean. Last year receiver the guy that's going to take a slant and break tackle and make a play out of it. They'd be I see him as that I just don't see him as a true exit this point. But the say that there shouldn't be anything that tells me he's not because I see speed I, see some route running ability I think he can get better route runner. But I still think that he's got some savvy to him. And showed it in this game. Do you re? So I WANNA just make sure that people follow that you know that you know that don't really follow you know XYZ receivers and and and and have you explain in the X.. Out there on that side by the by itself. But my question to you is why is that viewed sometimes as more a number one versus number two? So. The seaver. Is always offset from the White Titan. which. Essentially means they're offset from the strength? The backside end or the slot could be set to them in a double situation or you could go completely three over and put three guys with the wire way but the X. in or polar opposite. The why is usually the strength defense is considered the why tight end this thing The EX. The biggest thing and X. can do is make plays when you go three by one away from the. Or when the axes on the single side. Those are the big time ex players that you have to bracket or you have to bring a safety over. So you play two players over one, and now you have an advantage with three on the other side. Dictated that yet with Terry. So. Hopefully I mean remember remember last year especially with keenum they took a lot of deep shots McLaren's four three speed was very difficult to you know. Stay stay with. I mean when the? Remember, early in that year, they'd there is a lot of first down play action deep shots to him with him being you know them trying to force feed it to him I don't know if they'll do that and Scott Turner. He had one in the game. Okay and it ended up being an overthrow by doing haskins and I didn't put this in the positive or the negative dwayne happened. They went with run action pass and Terry took it into about the Hash on an angle it's really it's called an angle route. You can take it into the Hash and then he's going to bend it back out. So it's like back out to the corner. So it's not straight them. It's inside like you're selling deep across. The field and then back out. Terry gets him up. He's got to find a way to sell that further inside hands off. You gotta get over the top on. That is basically what I'm saying if he wants to be a one, any wants to win on that plane and wants to get those got to get over the top cornerback one way or another. He's gotTa find a way to sell it with the stem or sell it with the speed to push the middle of the field that he doesn't get road. As he comes back out of that bending the corner, he did get road. So in that, and then I didn't put that under way because I thought doing gave him a chance I would maybe would've liked ball have a little more touch but I still don't know if that's going to be complete ball. It was good coverage. So I WANNA see you guys get a step on some of those situations that's a hard route in my opinion, but that's what he's gotta be able to do. Terry McAuliffe Berry beat. Sims junior sim since junior plays like fifty eight place. It. I think they realize that he's he's a game changer and Ken be. Needs, to be on the field. Fifty eight plates he had three targets, get three receptions for fifty yards I thought he had the opportunity to have some more. thing that stands out in this game initially. In the positive is his ability to change speed. They he tempos the first three or four steps around twenty needs to he can burst out of those things that. that you don't see from players we talked about this in detail with the dwayne Haskins scrambled. But Simms running a five yard in on a third down and most guys run straight to five yards in it and Simpson's like. Pause and hesitation step, and then in break and the burst out of it is awesome by the way on that very same play tear maclaurin did the same thing on a slant and separated he also was opening up. So I noted that from Terry on that particular play but man Sims is A guy that can change speed. He's a guy that can I after the catch he should get more of those little screenplays yet that Nice little slip screen early in the ball game. he can go up and get a ball that that. Down to the two yard line that they ended up scoring their second touchdown. That's a huge play a little. He caught it and traffic. Cutting traffic. He's got good hands. Great play on the bootleg at the end of the game. Just burst out of it with the ball he he's scares people. So to me like. Another guy. To find a way to get vertical down the field, Terry's going to dictate coverage. We gotTA GET GOWNS field. Don't treat him as a slot treatments, your number two and get him down the field There was one opportunity where they did have a chance. They were trying to take a chance early in the game it was a run action pass Dwayne through way. He's running the Jon Gruden Banana. Route. So he's going to sell like he's running a deep crossing out from the right side. SPIDER WHY BANANA Yeah, it'd be a spider Zibanejad. Because he's busy but yeah, that would be it's just that banana didn't have any curve to it. That was a real diflucan banana. Like they've Got Bananas They're not right here those stiff, those stiff bonaly. They got a little too much green on him. You gotTA. Wait a couple days. One more step. Just a little bit more patience on that double move and he's going to be open. It's almost like the feel like. You're running on, you start on the right side of the formation you're depressing in the corner or the player, the DB's outside of you behind you. It's almost like out of the right. Is your any deep across you have to fill them start to cut across the field on the crosser and right when you feel them cut that's when you break. So to me, it doesn't matter how far you take it into the middle of the field. It's it's as far as you need to take it to push that player to cut it, and then you come back out of it. Other than that. I thought it was pretty good. He was be in this game. Logan Thomas you like him. You like him I love him I think he's going be a consistent good player I see him as Morton Lot. More than just a slot. A Don't you. Don't you think he's going to carry the ball to on a lot of that fly sweeping in motion action. I'd rather have him carry the ball in Gibson on fly sweeps stuff. Okay right now can't wait till. Gibson's review in great here. Okay. Since junior be who's up next. Rugged Thomas. Jefferson. Things that I like about Logan Thomas, it. I think the in the run game. He's physical. You you remember last year when he knocked Ryan Kerrigan out right. The, he's I've never seen that the crystal screaming I'd forgotten. Place in Kayode rank here. You had one early in the game where he went down and cut the D. end. Blew him up on a couple of you do that a couple of times the tight end, and they don't want any more. Like. This is this. I think he's got some physicality to him now that said. The first negative I'M GONNA get to they run this little counterplay that ends up bouncing outside. He didn't. He didn't block anybody on that play that's out there. And he's the only player outside. ARRIGO block him. Run into him like he just ran into like wait wait wait is that like I think it was. That was my guy. I saw that somebody somebody tweeted that play out he also missed somebody in the backfield on that. But. He's bypassing the player in the backfield. Okay. Yeah, he's supposed to run pass the player in the backfield because you want that. You. Want that defensive linemen to go down the line of scrimmage and we're counting on him being unblocked in pouncing out. Someone's like a reverse kind of deal. So you just block the corner and then we have a touchdown. Or not. That was weird. Veneer interception on third, down. In. Four I think that it's a poor angle by Logan Thomas. Look. Let's just be really clear. On the near maddox interception you're talking about. Little let me just be clear like this. Doesn't I don't see. Logan thomases a guy that's GonNa man to man coverage. But you're not your third down. No I think he's got some speed but. I like. You look at the catchy made on the run action pass to start a drive over the middle of the field and that's to me. Logan Thomas. He's got the speed to press the scene and press vertically. So he can get into some open zoned well into the timing of the play and make those type of place. But I don't see him as an a clicked which I think he's stiff I. think he's different Tips I. Think He runs away to upright. but I do think he he's physical. I mean, for example, like the he got a little screenplay. Like it. Easy to tackle. I got the brought down by one do immediately. But I do like him I think he's better than they've had. It's interesting I thought. All right. In the I thought you were going to tell me that he had some athleticism court former quarterback, former basketball player kind of ability to get open in separate. I'm not saying at the Jordan Reed level because that was ridiculous but I thought I saw a little bit of wiggle to. I don't see a lot of wiggle. Okay. We're GONNA. have. A B minus B. Minus for Logan Thomas. Gibson. Gibson as a physical runner. That play that he ran through. Might have been me Jackson. Polo shirt. That was the Logan Thomas didn't block anybody right? Pulling the shirt and get the lake drive from. Gibson was awesome. He had a great run in the second quarter for eighteen on trap play. So you run into in between the tackles. But. That second quarter eighteen yard carry you freeze frame that. At about seven yards downfield and tell me that that's not a housecall. Run Straight into Terry McLaren and falls down Kerry tackle this. He runs a little upright to doesn't he? He runs a little upright. I'm. Concerned about his break tackle ability and the open field off of one game. Do like his hands out of the Backfield we've talked about weighing touch, but he made a couple of catches out of the Backfield I. Think he's a better route runner than. Any of the other backs I'd like to see him utilize more Moore's as as a route runner I said that he could be used as an as an HBO type player like maybe it could be blocked a decent blocker. But that, Logan Thomas Screen. We just talked about A. he had a complete Miss Block on that play that his guy tackled. Logan Tommy. Like if you want to do things he. Always think of it this way like if I want guys to for me on the screenplay blocked for them on a screenplay. Like I see a birthday see some quickness icy some real rawness to. Like he I don't see him as a true back at this point. They see him as a as a versus guy that. But I do think at the same time like I think they use mckissick some third down situations. And they even use them like extended from the line just a little bit shipping. That's Gibson. Him. That's that's the Gibson is essentially make him. Your next receiver and third downplays. John. I thought he a C plus in this game. Oh and the other thing got tackled in the backfield on. One little counterplay I I. Two plays. One of the first place you got run down from the backside they ended unblocked. I think it just took forever to develop I. Think he took too long. Okay. I mean. He's practice it. He's definitely trying to sell frontside and counter and set up and I just think it took too. Okay. couple more just quickly inman inman yeah. I'm not impressed with inman too much. He made a couple of catches on slant that I that I like. I think he's Really in this game was average at getting off any kind of press getting any kind of separation to me didn't look like he was fast off at the Baugh. he was a C. minus. In there was. We just mentioned that eighteen yard Kerry by. Gibson. People that up and tell me how inman gets away with holding like every time he blocked somebody he's grabbing outside of their pads. There was a clear defined hold. Oh, and by the way I went through the PF grades they gave him a positive like they don't give positives that often especially in the run game, he got a positive. So if it's a flag, it's called negative to Unin but if it's not, it's a positive. But it should have been a negative us but they weren't calling holding on Sunday. So there you go. But it was okay. Okay. painting barber. I like dating Barbara me too. I think that he has really patients I thought he showed good vision and his ability to run the ball game stiff arm at one point he can run through contact it. In tight spaces was good in in around the end zone with good. I think pain Barbara is a pretty good player. A didn't have a ton of carry. The guy would have liked to see Peyton Barbara get I mean. I. Say that I guess he had. Teen Kerry I on Monday. His seventeen carries for twenty nine yards and I said if you just read that stat line, I don't think you'd miss the point barbers vision and patients in some of those big runs especially down at the goal line were really impressive I I agree with you I thought he looked good. You know he's never had high to get the first down exactly huge because it didn't look like there was going to be i. thought that when he took that pitch, I didn't think he was gonNA make it. Yeah I. He made the most out of it. I I like I like Barbara is weird because like I graded him a be in this game and it and it's like you look at his stats and it's a D.. But I thought he made plays when he had to make plays and I thought he ran. Some good patients I thought like watching him with a couple of the cuts that he made a couple of things that he did. I actually like the barber in this game. I I did too in Remem- remember Cooley he had that really good game the game we're Tampa had five hundred yards only scored three points, but he was really good in that game and I remember making sort of a note I'm like that guy runs with patients and with really good vision and yet he's never really been a guy that's generated a big statistical season. You know his yards per average Kerry, his career is not very impressive like I'm GonNa pull it up right now because I know it's it's always in the threes. Yup Three. Point one last year, three, point seven three point nine his first year in Tampa but he only had fifty five attempts. It was four point one. But when he really became more of a of a a guy that could get a bunch of carries, he's in the in the low to mid threes as an average three, seven, three nine actually higher threes but. Yeah. I liked him to what about mckissick didn't like mckissick in this in this ball game I didn't think mckissick really did anything to impact the game I had a couple of missed assignments. He missed the protection. Yeah. The drop pitch now I know someone's in your face but. I wasn't blown away by mckissick. I thought he was a D. in this game. I don't think he really created any impact I didn't see it. But they must see it in him and maybe it was just bad performance because he had a of the running backs. He had them I think he had the most snaps, right? Yeah. Didn't forty. Thirty. Right. When he was in on all the third downplays. So they they must like him and we heard that coming at a camp I I didn't think there was much I liked him in Detroit though when he was there but anyway you got him as a d. who else offensively skilled positions sprinkled played a bunch of snaps. Like bring wasn't very good in this game. At that. Okay, and Marcus Bob played twenty seven plays, which is crazy. He wore number eighty five he's Not It's Charlie Warner. Going to. Say. Time. Probably GonNA. Play for San Francisco. This week skittles Charlie, I talked to Charlie Warner two days ago. Yeah. Telling. Me You're happy made made the team. I told him I knew it was GONNA? Make the team. You did. Let's get to the offensive line. 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That's K. E. V. I N. D. C., and my bookie will double your first deposit. You're winning season begins today only at my bulky. cavill finish with the of line as exciting as it says, I will tell you before we begin this part of the program that on Monday he said I didn't think the waiting time and I kinda said I thought it was okay and situation. You're right. It wasn't very. I mean he could make better in some situations. The gas wasn't very good. Let's start with Doron Christian, we'll go left or right across the board I the way I like to do this because they're so impactful on every play and it's funny they play the most plays you grade them the most grades. You, right the most notes and people care the least about these. Yet but I think because this is a perceived weakness authencity along with a wide receiver and because Christians been a big question mark and they're going to have to figure out the left side I think people are going to be very interested in how you great out these guys in this first game considering they won the right. To do this, essentially a run grade pass game and up past grading can pretty much put them together because they're two really different situations. So we'll start with your on Christian in the run game. He's not physical. He's gotTa be more downhill. He's got to use hands better. He's got play lower on the backside and double teams E he's getting too far behind his own player that he's double teaming with like humping West. Martin at times like you don't need the Hump West Martin better suited actually get asked asked to ask ash-sheikh moving forward instead of just ramrodding. When? We Push. Due to my big. I. Hate when they do that drives breaking, it was coached last year. This was actually coached last year. I don't know how they're gonNA coach things this year by and I don't know how long it will take guys to get out of some of these techniques if they are coaching in a new way the. Drought just drove me nuts lester. Just getting catching too much like he'd get there. He had the first step and then he catch like wait like if you have the for step attack you one. Knock Him Downfield is there catch him with you get a first step. You got a little space like okay. Now is gonNA run into me. Okay. Now, catch him and let him push me back. I saw that too much In the past game I didn't I thought the first half was good. Bye Bye, Christian. gave up the sack fumble that at least be recovered would have been an absolute backbreaker at that point in the game would have caught. killed all the momentum it would have been a disaster, but it ended up working out and then I thought he. You know I thought he started opening tips too quick and I'll explain A. When you have a specially tackle. There in what's called a kick slide. So they on the left side, kick his left foot back and then slide his right foot straight back. And you're doing this while you're keeping your hips facing downfield. He needs to get to his third big kick before he tries to open his hips and turn pivot. When you open to quick you give up the edge that's what happened on the sack fumble and it happened on a couple of pressures later in this game and really it's a result of pure panic. That's what it is. It's panic. So. You got to be more physical than run game and because you give up a sack or because of pressure, it doesn't mean you panic the rest of the game and he started give up some presser pressures late I four pressures. And a sack in. The in the pombal as well to me in the run game Christian was a D. in the past game. I thought he was see. I thought there was some bad place but I thought there was some positive there. So essentially, you're saying inbetween DNC you say he plus. Be. Flat. Minor. See you see Between DNC would be a C. minus. A right. Okay. Well, let's call it a D. plus give up a sack fumble. No penalties. West Martin. Like West Martin I like he was one of my favorite players coming out of the draft, he was not very good in this game. Oh, my God did he get his ass kicked on that I? Know to be somewhat fair mckissick chips. The defensive end who then runs into the back of a League Jackson, and it changes the dynamic of the feel for pass protector but seriously like. Really. Good job. He must've roller skated backwards as a kid a little bit not falling down right away right? I think that he can be more impactful in the run game the double teams between him and Christian were really good. But Christian didn't help that. He wasn't powerful I. Think he can be scrimmage and he was bowled too much in the past game. He gave up by pressures. He gave up way too much pressure. It's a good front. Eagles are good but it wasn't Cox on his side. It was me Jackson's good player, but it wasn't Fletcher Cock. C. MINUS IN THE RUN GAME D in The past game for West Martin. That's more like a d plus that's the same grade. Yeah Christian. But you like him as a player. I do I, do I think that? He can be a decent player the center tastes? Yeah. I'd way too much. Holding on at the last second, not enough Dr Not enough physicality needs to play or or physicality in this game lost a lot of blocks in the past game. Wait. Fletcher Cox came in and. Kind of bullied him around a little bit over the middle. gave up multiple pressures in this game I think he does a good job in space when you get them out and pulling on the move, he does a good job although Sims on the one screen Sims had for a good screen. I would like to see reagents cut block rehab guy ends up forcing since out about just of down and then can make a decision where he wants to go off of that. But I do think he's got some athleticism some good movement and space. Not Physical enough in the middle. And not consistent enough in finishing Clayton he was in the run game, he was in the past game. Brandon sheriffs. So, this is my first thing in the run game, Brandon can be whatever he wants to be. He's so stout. He's so physical. He's got so much strength and he's still trying to turn it toward people. Now again, they were coached to do this last year. On some of the zone run plays when somebody takes an edge or one side of you that just turned torque and expose the whole like almost pull with one hand push with the other and just torque. It eliminates the possibility of the back going to that CIDER and further. The theory would be that it would open up a hole inside of him. I hate this. Shit. My opinion. It was how he was coach though I don't know what it's going to be, but I hate the. Downgrade. Downgrade him on Torque. Other people might not. Well. His head or is he just doing what is being coached? Can't tell you don't have the answer to that right now. But I think it's just sloppy football I. Think it's Lazy. Just keep moving your feet and keep running your player because he's so good that if he just runs his player, he can run them out of out of the equation I mean God the time and in this game as well like Ren Sheriff when he's pulling him when he's in space, he is an absolute nightmare. Like get him in space and on the move and he's an absolute nightmare. i. do think that he got pushed around a little bit by Fletcher Cox in this game, he gave up that rpo sack. I mean. Ease push back like that. I, think he missed a couple done in the past game. I, like the sheriff I think he's a tremendous player. It's just nothing he's shown me in this game is indicative of player that deserves a massive guard guard contract he was plus in the run he was a c plus in the past he gave up a sack he gave up three pressures and there were very little impact place where I think Brandon Sheriff made that play happened. Okay see for share. was. It the best offensive line grade because so far it is. Not Because of the Best Morgan Moses Morgan Moses actually did a tremendous job in the run game. You got him out in space I mean the fourth and to I think anyone can visualize that big time play. Y- when he was out moving he looked like he had some of his athleticism back. And keep in mind the last couple of years it's like ankle problem after ankle problem, but it diving to make blocks late, make plays. There was a trap, play the bounce out to the left that Morgan dove and end up knocking his guy out on the second level. It away from the play but his guy would have made the play and it was like it's ugly but manned effort to get that done is so big time. And I thought Morgan did a pretty good job as the past protect our really to me. It was only like one fresher that gave up as past protector. And this ball game. So the right side between Sheriff and Moses should be fine Moses. I. Thought he was. A close to an a in the run game I can't find a ton. And I thought he was a B. In the be plush to me Morgan's like eight minus in this game. Well, there it is. It took us a while but the very last player unless you graded out West Schweitzer who played six snaps the very last player was the highest grade in player in the Game Morgan Moses. And across the board, the offensive line if you'd be. It was a d plus C minus performance at best buy this offensive line. and. Essentially if you were degrade the entire offense, I thought made a couple of plays when they had to make plays in finish a couple of drives that were critical down there in the red. Zone. But they did not. They do not strike fear into anybody isn't it? This. Is An offense that near you're not going to be. Ninety that worried about, but it's fun to watch and keep in mind what did I do this I? It was just one game one game. It's an offense that got a new offense coordinator and a second year quarterback and a young offensive line. There enough. Incident could grow we this. These could get better as the season goes up. I first of all I for me overall the the biggest surprise for me is that You is that you graded. dwayne a C. minus that that's my biggest surprise I really thought you're going to come in here and you're going to tell me because of the big plays he made because of the clutch plays that he made that even all the stuff we saw early in the game that that trump's a lot of it and that maybe he was a b minus kind of because I think that's what I. I didn't great him. I should've on the radio show or maybe earlier this week on the podcast I think I would have. Given A B minus because he came through in the same way, he did in the Detroit game last year where he had a terrible game but he came through with big plays when winning the game was a possibility and he delivered I, think that's my biggest surprise I thought. He would have been a little bit higher but you know in listening to you, I know I know it's fair and concerns about touch passing the touch on his passes was something that Rivera mentioned and I can see even with a non expert. Opinion, on quarterback play. Technically, I can see that the footwork isn't consistent or very good I. Do think though the more in listening to you do this, they gotta figure out a way to get him. You know on a lot of bootlegs early and get some easy throws and it seems like his touch on bootlegs is better. Anyway it sounds like you're wrapping up to great job. Oh. I just had this car buttons turned on. All right but no, you're pretty good. We'll do. We'll do defense tomorrow. Thanks. Thanks buddy great job from Cooley first film breakdown a year he'll do defense tomorrow and we'll be doing this all year long Appreciate it have a great day everybody.

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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 258: Age is Just a Number

GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast

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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 258: Age is Just a Number

"Golden state media concepts, fantasy football podcast is your one stop shop for fantasy football news and advice decided rooted draft first round, cowing Gaga, and how a lot of your team got you covered. Additionally, scientists deletes heat. Arlene I DP DP lead even daily Fantasy Football League Djilas. We break down all the questions of fantasy football. It's the golden state media concepts fantasy football podcast. And welcome into GMC. Fantasy football podcast brought to you by the GMC podcast network. I am your host ESP. Brandon Soda Petr. You're on a Saturday or whatever day that you might happen to pop on the podcast here? Just a little update for you guys because I know you're all dying to know I. AM still in the process of getting my craft beer growing in about a week. I'll finally be able to bottle. This got a nice chocolate milk stout going. This is my first attempt. It takes three weeks to age this bad boy, because you've got to add cocoa to it after a week, so of a nice patient, and hopefully the final product comes out well. Probably got about three weeks before. It's actually ready for consumption, so stay tuned for that guys. Maybe I'll give away. Some went out to a fan so we've got a packed show for you today. We'll let you know right off the bat. The formatting might be a little different than what you are used to. That is because this is the first week that I will be doing the wide receiver previews, and these are different from when we were taking a look running backs, because teams are generally going to utilize one two three, even four wide receivers as opposed to two running backs most, and there's a lot more information to unpack. Today's kind of a test run the see how many segments I'm going to break that up into, so here's how we're going to do things today. So, we're going to start off actually this first segment. We're going to get to your five burning fantasy questions. We normally do that after we take a look at the previews, but we're GONNA. Hit that right away today after that we're gonNA start diving into the different wide receiver rooms of the NFC and AFC north, and then we're going to show up with our top ten as we usually do gonNA. Give you our top ten fantasy players the age of thirty. With football wants players get to that magic number especially running backs, you start to worry about potential fantasy value of. They're going to be able to keep producing. They're gonNA fall off a cliff. Ten guys that you can feel very secure drafting despite their age. But before we get into all that we did have a couple of big contract signings over this last week since you've last, listen to me. I one doesn't have as much as a fan of a famous impact of, but that's going to be myles. Garrett, who is getting paid. I believe the most. Out of any non quarterback in the league, he signed for five years. One hundred twenty five million dollars, a well-deserved definitely believe myles. Garrett is one of the best pass rushers in the league, and he's still very young. He's going to continue to develop a continue to develop in come into his own now. That is going to be there in Cleveland long-term. He's got one less thing to worry about so I'm. I'm excited to see what he does going forward and then of course Derrick, Henry, this one has a little bit more of a fantasy impact signing to stay with Tennessee. Four years fifty million I think is really good for his fantasy values specifically from a dynasty standpoint, because he fits very well in that Mike variable offense there in Tennessee we saw him have by far his best year last year with ramble. There's a chance that that drops off I don't think it. Will I think he's still going to be productive overall in Tennessee the best place for him. These a workforce back I'm going to get the most out of him there, so you can definitely feel comfortable drafting him very high in your dynasty draft because you know exactly what system is going to be playing in for years to come now before we move off of this, too. Too I just have to make mention just looking at the the stark difference between these two contracts you had Derrick Henry who was the rushing leader last year and Myles Garrett who is a top pass rusher? But he's definitely not the best I'm looking argue that he's the best in the League whereas Derrick Henry. You can make a strong argument that he's the best runner of the football league. These contracts are not even remotely close. Derrick Henry getting quite literally. Half the amount of money that myles Garrett is he's getting twelve and a half million a year as opposed to Garrett, getting twenty five million man I know pass rush is a premium Garrett deserve that money, but running backs are going to continue to be criminally undervalued and underpaid man. NFL teams really do view these guys as disposable, and that doesn't only hurt the guys that are getting. You know interchange every year, but you're seeing that hurt the value of contracts as well. Derrick Henry is one of the best players in the NFL and he's not getting paid like it. I mean not that twelve and a half million dollars that anything the scoff at but. Oh Man, so it seems like that's the direction. The League is GonNa Continue to head in. We're going to continue to put money into quarterback into receivers into pass rushers, and not nearly as much the running back, so that's interesting in Kinda tidbit as we were looking at the the league going forward here, so it'll be interesting to see this next crop running back. Back so they're going to get paid. I think this is going to have a a definite domino effect as you guys Dalvand Cook Attempt to negotiate his contract GonNa have nick shows after that as well and then Zeke I think it'll be an interesting to look at when he's going for that second contracts I firmly believe he's running back. That can produce. Produce for a long time, but he might to take significant pay-cut even if he does continue to produce at the level that he is our a guy, so that was the only real bit of news that we've had recently. We're still waiting on Washington to announce what their name chain is going to be. Supposedly, there is a bombshell story about to drop just. Just about the entire situation in Washington and with Dan Snyder. I don't have any additional info on what's going on, but if anyone is going to, it would be our slew of excellent hosts over at the GMC football podcast, so definitely be listening to that throughout the week as we wait for details to kind of emerge about what exactly is happening in Washington. Aright so enough headlines, guys. Let's get right into it. The five burning fantasy question for today's episode number one. We're going to start off with a quarterback question and I think about this one for quite a while actually and it's. Why are experts so high on Daniel Jones and what I mean is Daniel. Jones is going somewhere as a mid tier quarterback between thirteen and seventeen. However you ask almost anybody you know top. Top bottom five quarterbacks in the NFL. Going into twenty twenty Daniel. Jones is going to be on a lot of those lists. He showed flashes of what he can do, but he came into the League incredibly raw, which is why people were questioning the fact that giants took up at six, so those things were definitely starting to crop up. So what makes his fantasy value so much better than his actual NFL stock. And at the end of the day, I don't really know I do not understand this now, but one thing I know is he did have some big games in two thousand nineteen? He had a couple of four touchdown performances because he can make things happen with his legs, and he's a decent passer got a nice arm. He can get things done. However, he was so inconsistent that he was never. Never a viable fantasy option last year, unless maybe you were playing best ball, or in some cases daily fantasy, but even with daily fantasy it was almost impossible to predict what teams he was going to be able to produce against, because it was so all over the board, so the big game potential I guess is what is drawing people in, but you can still get Ryan Tannehill in that spot. They're just more consistent options at quarterback. When we're talking about the rains that he is, he's going there. I would even rather take a chance on someone like Philip rivers going to a new team or even Dwayne haskins getting a second chance this year. I think Haskins has more NFL. Ready Abilities in Daniel Jones does was just very bad situation out there in Washington, which? which a Gruden so the experts again for some reason they loved the annual Jones I'm not sold on the kid. Maybe he can develop into something down the road but I just don't really see him as a viable fantasy option at twenty twenty now, not only talking about his ability, but the wide receiver and tight end room there in New York's a mess right now. They have a bunch of guys that either continue to get hurt or just haven't really been able to produce at the NFL level. We've already seen sterling. Shepard have a lot of injury issues. Golden tape I remember correctly is facing a a suspension at the beginning of the year and then Corey Coleman the failed browns wide receiver. That was a first round pick. WHO's even disrespected by Google to the point where they think his name is cullen. I. I keep looking into this. It's actually just a a TYPO. He hasn't changed his name. It's. Google doesn't even want to recognize who he actually again. The receiving rooms of Mess Evan Ingram's nice weapon, but he's also A. He's a very inefficient tight end. I don't like him a ton. From a fantasy perspective spoiler alert, so Dana Jones isn't working with a ton. You Got Saquon Barkley. Who is the the ultimate Chicote in the Backfield, but he can only. Only help you so much when it comes to the passing game so at the end of the day you know you can be high on Daniel Jones. The experts can be high on I'm not going to have any kind of shares of Daniel Jones that I just do not see the upside with him. This year are moving on from that are going to die of into wide receivers again again this episode, the first of the wide receiver preview series. So? Are there any teams where the current wide receiver to the guy that is the clear-cut wide receiver to could end up at producing? The wide receiver one and there are a few situations where this can happen and including one that actually did happen in twenty nineteen so I'll start off with Atlanta and I. Know it's crazy to say this is only dependent on an injury, however Julio Jones. As a starter has the potential to finish as the number one wide receiver in the League, if something were to happen to Jones I believe Ridley has. The ability to still finish as the number one receiver in the League. We only thing holding this kid back right now is the fact that Julio Jones is in front of him This guy has everything you need from a wide receivers perspective. He's fast. He's has an excellent route tree. He's able to make guys missing space. I'm a huge fan of Ridley and he already has. Has Good report with Matt Ryan Even with Leo in the lineup. We're talking about Ridley as a potential top fifteen fantasy wide receiver this year, so if something were to happen to Jones Ridley definitely has the ability to step in new shoes and just completely take off with that wide receiver one spot now another wide receiver room where this can happen, and this is the one. One that did happen in two thousand nineteen. That's the Cleveland browns with Jarvis Landry and Odell Beckham Junior now. It's pretty clear that Odell Beckham is number one receiver on the team. They traded a first round pick to get him out there to Cleveland. He is their big-play Guy, and until maybe a year year and a half ago, he was a top five receiver in the. The League from a production standpoint and last year we saw him be hampered by injury. There was a new offensive system therefore him that he was adjusting to the quarterback play wasn't great, and that all lead to Jarvis Landry, actually being able to produce Odell Beckham junior now, even if Beth junior to take a step forward this year, which again I firmly believe that he will. Landry could still definitely ended up finishing with more fantasy points because he is relied on by Baker. Mayfield Baker Mayfield loves to target him. He has a safe possession option, and especially. When we're talking about a talking about PR, leagues I can see more consistent fantasy value from landry going from week to week. Even if he doesn't find the end zone during a game, he's going to be able to back up good yardage. Yardage and a good number of catches for you, so he's unless risky wide receiver than Odell Beckham Junior and I'm not saying it's likely that he's going to finish ahead of him, but the chance still exists especially. Since we saw this happen just last year, and then the number one the situation where I think it's the most likely that the wide receiver is going to take over. That's the seahawks. Guys Tyler Lockett. Number one, but he has decay metcalf right on his heels, decay, mccafe's and player that I am very high on. People started dropping his stock. A little bit didn't have the greatest combine performances, but we saw last year. This guy is just built different. He's going to beat you to the ball. Just by bullying you and then going up and getting these contested catches. He's a physical freak and the he starts to show that the more I think. Russell Wilson is going to start relying on him over it. Who is going to be your more? Traditional shifty kind of wide receiver both these guys are talented, but I think met cap is a couple steps away from really hitting his stride entering stardom, so I'm very high on metcalfe. Do not be surprised if he finishes as the wide receiver one out there in Seattle, even as far as their ACRI's go right now as of today at least they're only separated by A. A couple of spots with lock it just being a few steps ahead of metcalf, but metcalfe's going to be someone. I'm going to try to target quite a bit this year for that reason I think he will end the season as the seahawks number one guy so flipping that question a little bit. Let's take a look at who are the most secure wide receiver ones. So let me start with a guy that I haven't been high on, but he is the number one for his team. And that's Davante. Adams currently as Adema lazard and Devin funchess behind him I think those guys are going to buy more for that second and third wide receiver spot. devante Adams is by far the most talented wide receiver on that team in the. The reason I'm not high on him is just because of the volatility of the situation up in Green Bay, but he is number one guy. There's no doubt about it. Even if there was an injury, I think the passing game will take a pretty severe step back. I don't see anyone that's going to be able to fill that devante Adams role on that team. Next one De'andre, so this is interesting because he probably has the most receivers that he's competing against. Clicking Berry seems to want to run a an air raid style of offense. There's a ton of weapons there so most notably of Larry Fitzgerald is still around Christian. Kirkman and Andy Isabella, who they drafted I believe in twenty eighteen, so there's a lot of guys there, but none of them do things that the Andre Hopkins can do. He's the clear cut number one. He would be a number one receiver. That's a thirty out of the thirty two NFL teams I. Mean The guy is, he's built different. He can do everything you wanted a wide receiver and he can even produce probably better than anyone else in the league when he has a sub par quarterback, so the Andre, Hopkins definitely secure in that number one spot in Arizona and the number one guys. It's Michael Thomas I know. He hasn't manual sanders there now, but sanders is getting older year. I don't think we're GONNA see nearly the production out of him that a lot of people are thinking. Thomas is the number one guy drew. BREES is locked in on him. I think Jameis. Winston would be locked well if he were to step into that role and it's because Thomas. The Best Wide Receiver in the League. There's no, if ands or buts about it. If something were to happen to him, the offense is GonNa. Take a huge step back. Soga Michael Thomas clear-cut number one guy in. New Orleans. You can take that one of the bank. Right guys number four. Are there any sense Cisco wide receivers worth drafting. So as I looked into this, the number, one guy is sitting in the thirties as far as wide receivers go, that's deebo Samuel the also drafted Brandon Euch this year, and it's tough to really put a true value on either of these guys just because of the way that Kyle. Shanahan likes to run his offense. It's going to be run heavy. It's going to be a lot of short passing things. They have Jimmy Garoppolo there who I think limits them in the passing game to an extent. You're not GONNA be able. Able to push the ball down the field a ton, which I believe will hurt somebody like Brennan Euch while at Arizona. State was a true field stretcher. That's where he got his draft value. That's why he was taken US number one pick I don't know of Garoppolo has the ability to really get him the ball down the field so definitely with Ebo Samuel they do like using him on wide receiver screens. They like using him in a lot of short intermediate type stuff so i. do think there is some value there. But again with the unpredictability of how Shanahan wants to run things now he changes up his game plan from week to week I think eventually. You're looking at devaux Samuel as a a wide receiver, low end wide receiver to so there is some value there i. you very nervous about drafting. I. Maybe late in best ball if they can find ways to get him, targets down the field because he is going to be a boomer bus type receiver at least in his first year so Samuel I like a little bit, nobody else teams really worth drafting from a receiver perspective, and they've also got a George Kettle there. Who's going to be taking away? Receptions from the rest of these guys, though a limited number receptions as it is, so the that's, it's Deebo. Samuel and nobody else. All right fifth question, guys, you know. This one's always a little bit more off the wall. So. Today I am taking a look at who is the MVP of Fast Food Hamburgers? Are Right now before we get into the debate, I have lived now on the West. Coast in the East Coast I've had a chance to try in and out. What Burger all of the different. Chains that aren't necessarily everywhere in country so I have a a nice. Panel in front of me here. And it came I'm GONNA break it down into three categories, so we're talking about price if you talking about the best value. It's in and out. You can get an in and out Burger for anywhere between two and four bucks, and you get a quality burger. It's not wimpy. It's going to actually be able to fill you up and with the software. quit on it. It's absolutely delicious I'm a big Fan if we're talking about an individual sandwich. It's what a Burger whataburger. Standard, Burger is not that great. It's okay it's middling at best. But for a single menu item the Patty Melt that they have that they put this like creamy pepper sauce on is the best individual. Fast Food Burger that I've had. It's amazing. If you ever get yourself out to a what a burger bet is, a must try for shirt. However all things considered if I had to pick one burger to be the MVP. Right a standard cheeseburger. It's five guys. The five guys, you can get anywhere. which is a nice little added bonus. It is a little expensive, but I'm not taking that into account as much here, but man. It doesn't matter what you put on it the way that they just assemble the whole thing rapid together the cheese melts, and everything gets gooey and messy and wonderful. It is the king of Fast Food Burgers, and it took me awhile to come around on. I was very big on in and out the first time. I tried it, but the more got into it yet. It's great for the value, but it's a little bit inconsistent, and it's just not the best burger in the world. You still have to try when you're out on the west coast. You still have to try what a burger, but for my money five guys has. Has Invited. Has has excellent fries to they always hook you up on that end. You get a small in fill half a frigging bag for you, so that's it as five guys MVP burgers now again this week. No Fan contribution. These are just questions that I came up with that. I thought you. Guys are going to want the answers to, but if you want your question heard on the podcast, there is a couple of ways that you can get that done. Done you can tweet the show at GMC underscore F football, or you can go to my twitter personally at law machine seventeen. That's La Machine one seven. Drop your fantasy questions there. I'll be sure to reply you and I'll be sure to get your question on the show. I'll even mentioned you by name if you want guys always looking for contributions, not only for fancy questions, but for some of these off the wall ones. If you listened last episode, we had A. A great chance mission for a question about a star wars fantasy lineup that I sat here and debate with myself six minutes. It was great. It was awesome radio. So if you want your voice to be heard again, let us know at GMC underscore, F-, football, or at law machine one seven. When we come back, we start to dive into the wide receiver groups with the AFC, an NFC north. You're listening to the GMC fantasy football podcast. We'll be right back. Are you looking for the very best NFL and college football podcast, then check out the GSM see football podcast. Get the latest football news both on and off the field from the NFL draft treats to the rumor mill to the NFL combines. They got you covered. That's GMC PODCAST DOT COM slash football dash podcast. GET UPDATES on college. Rivalries kindy insights, and much much more. It's football. Talk the way you want it. This show in sleeps and breathes football. Don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on twitter physically, yes, MC podcast dot com for more INFO. And Welcome back to the TSMC fantasy football podcast I. Am Your Host Esp Brandon? Soder Penner. Very excited now as we get to start diving into the wide receiver groupings in the NFL as you've been listening the first four episodes. That did this podcast. We took a deep dive into the various running back. Situations throughout the NFL generally do chew divisions per episode, so either the AFC NFC north south, east West, etc, etc, and then last week I gave you my definitive top thirty, running back rankings. A very similar format here with the wide receivers. Today's episode is GonNa. Be a little bit experimental. As I started dive into wide receivers. I noticed. Obviously. Teams are going to utilize more receivers than they are running back. So there is a lot of information to dive into I have the NFC and AFC North series ready for you guys, so it might be one segment might be two segments just kind of depends how on how long it takes to get to everything, but regardless I will get you all of the information today like I, said for the NFC and AFC north wide receivers, and then of course when we are done with all of the teams is, we'll take again four episodes as I tackle two divisions per episode. Episode I will give you. My top thirty wide receivers when everything is all, said and done after that we move into quarterbacks and tight ends together. Just because it's not a lot of content, do either of those positions particularly individually so we'll combine those we'll do our definitive rankings of both of those positions, and then we will finally move into a mock draft I am going to do a mock draft live while I am recording the show and we're going to go through going to explain my personal draft strategy going to debate between players that are still available specific grounds now beginning idea of what players may be available for you. Depending on what round you're looking at. ADP doesn't mean everything. It depends on the people you're drafting with or even the computer simulation that you're drafting against sometimes you're going to see guys, go away. You expect or way lower just because once you get into those seven eight rounds, you see people go with guys that they like and they don't necessarily draft on ADP and that's where it's going to affect those numbers as well. A players average position may shoot way up because a few people decided to take him. where the average person is really taking him several rounds later so anyway, that's GonNa. Be Really Fun Exercise I. Absolutely look forward to doing that with you guys and it's going to be a ton of fun. All right, so let's go ahead and dive into the wide receivers. Let's start with the NFC. And I'M GONNA start with the Minnesota Vikings, so Adam falen their number one guy there right now. Currently sitting about wide receiver, thirteen is ADP a sitting in the early thirty S. I feel like Adam Finland's under drafted every year, except in two thousand nine hundred people finally caught on to the fantasy stuff that Adam failure was in one thousand, nine, hundred, of course he, he burned everybody. He was hurt for a lot of last year. He still he just didn't have that same consistent. Adam Dale and production that we'd all come to know in love now. There's no reason for that to repeat this year. A few things Adam Sandler was dealing with injuries in two thousand nineteen. That's something that hasn't necessarily been an issue throughout his career. He is getting a little older, but it doesn't really strike me as something that's going to. Constantly hamper him. Stefan digs is gone now from Minnesota, so that alone is going to provide falen with more targets, even with digs there Falin did regularly come out as the target leader for that team, just because of the nature of the receiver he was, he was more the the intermediate slot route kind of receiver as where digs was the outside field stretcher. So when you have a quarterback, kirk cousins. He's going to want to favor somebody like Finland more because he's not necessarily known to just chuck it down the field. Constantly both players had a role so again with digs out of there, and replacing him with a rookie Justin Jefferson I. I think Adam Falen is once again going to be the real focal point of this offense. Even know Minnesota's going to be a run first team. We've seen that. Their top two receivers have had consistent value ever since kirk cousins arrived so Adam Falen is going bounce back this year. Pretty strong I wouldn't be surprised if he finishes in the top ten wide receivers. He's never been a guy that has the potential to finish the number one receiving option in the NFL. Just because he's not a big play receivers, he is arguably the best possession receiver in the League and he has real legitimate fantasy value because of that. Now another thing that's going to help Adam feeling, is he? When he was healthy, he was seeing some work on the outside last year. Think the coaching staff realized that that wasn't his strong suit, so it seems like they're gonNA, shift him back into the slot and Justin Jefferson who I believe one of the NFL ready wide receivers. Coming out of the draft is going to start right away. He's going to be on the outside slot or not the outside slide. He's GonNa Start at the X.. Receiver position and. Again failing is GONNA. Go back to his more comfortable natural slot rel, and that's going to help failing dramatically. I really do believe that he has a chance to lead the NFL in targets this year moving back into that slot spot again. He's going to get a lot of these shorter routes. He's going to be amazing and. Not Quite as great and Standard Liege. Because again he's not going to be the home run. Hitting type of receiver of Adam is definitely going to regain a lot of value here in two thousand twenty, even though two thousand nine hundred was a little bit. So, now, let's talk about the guy that's going to be across from him like I mentioned on the outside. It's just Jefferson. He's currently sitting. The low fifties for wide receiver rankings ADP has all the way up about one thirty one forty. He's a solid NFL. Ready Receiver guys even right out of college. He was drafted where he was because he doesn't have. The same ceiling is a lot of the guys that came out like I. think Henry Rugs Jerry duty a CD lamb. However, he's his floor is fantastic, and he's already pretty close to that. He's GonNa come in and be solid possession guy now where I think people get mixed up a little bit is everyone assumes okay. He's stepping into where Stefan digs played, so he's going to take over on digs. Role. I don't see that. Unlike, digs, Jefferson has limited big playability. He's fast, but he's not elite vast again. He's A. He's a possession guy. He doesn't have that big playability. I don't know where everyone is getting this idea from. It's not just fantasy owners. It's experts i. see that all think that he's got the potential. This step into the digs role, but again I. I just really don't see that. It's not that he's not going to be a good wide receiver, but these are just two completely different guys just because he'll be at the same position does not mean he's going to take over that productivity right away. Now what Jefferson has going for him like I said he's solid. He's NFL ready. He's well-polished. Number the obvious number two receiver I. Don't really see anyone that's going to challenge for the second receiver spot in Minnesota this year. He might lose targets to Dalvin Cook. That's the only thing I'd be kind of worried about cook was the second leading receiver on the Vikings lashed year. He was targeted quite a bit. Again they utilize their running game a lot and they're running backs. Just don't be surprised. If Alvin Cook utilized heavily in the run and pass game this year, despite everything that I've said that he's not a big play guy that he may lose some receptions to delve and cook even the tight ends. I still think he's better than wide receiver fifty one. He's a legitimate number two receiver for this team and he's I think he's going to develop. Throughout the year there's not going to be a giant learning curve Jefferson I really do think he has the ability to produce right away. I think he's going to be able to earn kirk cousins. Trust and you're going to see him. Utilize in the offense quite a bit so definitely to very draftable guys and Falen and Justin Jefferson in Minnesota. Couple players of note that are on their team I. don't even know how to pronounce Olabisi. Johnson I hope I'm not butchering that and then Taj Sharp, wide receivers, three and four. They really don't have any true value here. They might have. Minnesota threw the ball more, but it is a relatively balanced offense that will lean slightly towards running the ball more so I really don't see either of those guys having a ton of value. In the in the Vikings offense so there you have guys Adam failing adjusts in Jefferson both solid options for you to take a look at from Minnesota moving on now to Chicago. Starting off with Alan Robinson I've heard a lot of experts also very high on Robinson just because he has a great opportunity to receive a ton of. Volume last year received a ton of volume I. WanNa say that was targeted about one hundred and seventy times. The only issue is you can target a receiver as much as you want, but if they're not. Quality targets. They don't mean anything and I've got a hard time believing that. Robinson's going to get a ton of quality targets from either Mitch Trubisky. Or Nichols. He. He got all these targets which are busy last year. And produced pretty well. However trubisky needs a miracle. Even keep the job to begin with the fact. Bringing in Nick Foles to compete for that quarterback position is a very scary prospect for him, and then if Nick foles does end up stepping into that role one. I'm not super confident in Nick Foles as a quarterback. We haven't really seen him. HAVE SUCCESS ANYWHERE OTHER THAN PHILADELPHIA? I'm not sure how he keeps. Getting paid and getting some of these starting jobs. But on top of that with Nick foles even if he does play relatively well. The one thing we know about Nick foles. I brought it up. Almost every episode is that he doesn't like to use his outside receivers. We see consistently any team that he's on including the eagles when he was there and led that. Super Bowl run a few years ago. He loves the uses slot receivers. He loves to use his running backs. So! Has Potential to lose a lot of that volume to Tariq Cohen right off the rip and again. This is assuming that either of these quarterbacks can produce it all which I'm not convinced in whatsoever. It's unfortunate. Because Alan Robinson is one of the only true offensive weapons that the bears have this year, but I cannot trust the quarterback play in because of that I am fading Robinson quite a bit. He his eighty. He's sitting around thirty. He's going somewhere between wide receiver. Ten and fifteen I'm fading him back all the way into the twenties, which is unfortunate because he's a clear number, one guy, but the quarterback situation in Chicago dismal I think no matter who starts. There's the potential that either starter. There is going to have the worst passing numbers in the NFL in two thousand twenty. and. It doesn't matter how good of a receiver you are, even unless your name is Andrea Hopkins. You can't produce with quarterback. Play like that so I'm fading Robinson very hard now before i. move on Anthony Miller the one thing I will say about the bears as they are going to benefit from playing some week divisional defenses. Incredibly high on Green, Bay the Lions. They brought in some Nice cornerbacks this year, but again they're going to be a little bit of a rebuilding defense, and then the vikings defense. They seem to be rebuilding piece by piece, and definitely not the dominant. Group that they were three or four years ago at this point, so they will get a little bit of a bump from that. However with some of the great offenses. They're going to be going into the division. They're going to have to throw the ball a lot. And when you make the bears one dimensional I think it's just going to compound their issues and it's. It's going to be a mess there this year. Now we do also have Anthony Miller as the wide receiver to. He is a solid number two receiver. At wide receiver forty seven right now as ADP is in the. Mid To late one thirties. He's the clear number two option on that team. No Buddy. Behind him that can compete for that job. I'll get into that in a second. He does have some. Lingering shoulder injury issues. He also might lose some targets to the tight ends. They did bring Jimmy Graham for a reason again I think he's pretty much washed up at this point, but if you're going to pay him at least give Michelle with a team. You GotTa think some new targets are GONNA go to Graham. And then they drafted coal. Commit this year as well with their first pick. So overall. It feels like Miller is on track to lose a relatively significant amount of targets this year, and when you couple that with the same problems that Robinson is going to have. It's the quarterback play again. He's still going to be an outside receiver Miller doesn't really play a ton out of the slot so I don't see nick foles necessarily making him a favourite target over. Robinson! He's another guy that I'm fading because the situation in Chicago is really all over the place right now. The only other receivers they're of no. You've got Ted. ginn junior, who is still in the League is yes I know it's amazing. However, he's pretty old at this point at best maybe he gets some looks as a as a returner of some sort, but I really don't see him having a ton of impact on the offense at this point in his career, and then Riley Ridley of course brother of Calvin Ridley. He's just unproven at this point he hasn't really seen. The field doesn't seem quite. Quite be developing the way they had hoped. So neither of those players are any fantasy value at all. I would avoid drafting both of them and like I, said I'm fading Alan. Robinson and Anthony Miller both pretty hard, because again, man, the bears have the potential to finish finishes the worst passing team in the league, because I can't trust trubisky or nick foles. And before I, move off of the bears I. Don't know where this optimism is coming from with Nick foles I have yet to see him succeed anywhere other than those couple of times in Philadelphia where he was built into a system that he was comfortable with where they ran the rpo quite a bit, and he could command the offense the way he wanted to he. He led Philadelphia to a super bowl. That team was stacked behind him as well. They had excellent defense. They had great offensive weapons there with him guys. That was a fluke nick. Foles is not a starting caliber quarterback. He has not been able to do it with any other team in the NFL, so there's no reason for me to believe that he's going to be. Going to be able to do with Chicago of all teams. All right moving along now to actually one of my favorite running back groupings that I've dove into so far. That's the Detroit lions to start off. They've got Kenny Golladay. Who a lot of people have gotten really excited about since last year. He sitting at wide receiver, seven in the majority of rankings, ADP, sitting in the low twenty s I. Love Kenny Golladay guys, maybe not as much as a lot of experts do this year, but this guy. Guy Was helping me win daily fantasy all the way back in twenty eighteen. He was a guy that was regularly undervalued, because you had him and Marvin Jones there, but golly was getting a lot of the goal line work and it was paying off for me week after week. He was a guy that could get me. You know a touchdown and a good chunk yardage. Good for twelve thirteen fourteen fantasy points a week. It was awesome and. Last year. He just took that to a completely different level, even without Matt Stafford, he was able to produce quite a bit I. WanNa see. He finished this. The wide receiver six and it seems like people are really expecting that to happen again this year now. I don't think. He's quite valued correctly as much as I do like him for starters. He is due for little bit. A touchdown regression. Fourteen touchdowns for him is a lot. The one thing we know about Matt Stafford since magnetron retired is that he loves to spread the ball around so i. don't see gala as somebody in this offense that is going to be just constantly leaned on as the wide receiver. One Stafford has learned that he doesn't need to force the ball to one receiver and he's not going. Going to do that, he's going to spread the ball around so I see. Marvin Jones Junior. Ask someone that's going to still be able to heavily produce this year. If you even look in past years with Matt Stafford, these guys always followed very closely and targets even though gala has been valued almost thirty spots and ADP higher this year. It's an even wider gap, so I think they're gonNA follow a lot closer in targets than you realize so just because of that. I can't put, Kennedy. And like that absolute top tier receivers, but still an excellent. Tear guy now moving on into Marvin Jones. This guy is an excellent value for you. He at wide receiver, thirty four ADP in the low nineties. I think he's going to be one of the better number. Two options in the league like I said Stafford really broke out as a quarterback after Calvin Johnson retired. Because when you have Calvin Johnson there, who? Who at the time was considered to be the best wide receiver in the League in one of the best of all time, you're going to want to get him the ball on. You're a young Matt Stafford coming out of Georgia, still trying to develop into an NFL quarterback. Of course. You're going to lean on a guy like that, so he was feeding. Johnson the ball a lot, and it was leading to a little bit of a lower completion percentage. Stafford wasn't super effective early on in his career. Now Megatonne retires early because that's what elite lions players do and you saw Stafford really open up. He started using the entire field and when he got weapons. Like Gallaudet Jones together he is always utilized both of them, so I really think he's going to continue to lean on both Kenny Golladay. And Marvin Jones junior this year it's going to be an open field Kenny golladay still going to be the number one and I like him, but Jones junior sitting at wide receiver thirty four, he may finish somewhere in the mid twenties with how stab going to utilize both of them I think he set up for a great year. They have a solid running game. Game now there is well which I think is going to help the offense as a whole of so I'm very high on Marvin Jones junior and guys. There's even a third option for you with the Lions. If you're looking for a deeper wide receiver that's going to get you consistent value. Those are two things that are rare to go together, but it's Danny Amendola. Guy He's currently sitting at wide receiver. Eighty two is ADP is almost in the three hundreds. But what you guys don't realize is that he got ninety seven targets in twenty nineteen. Now normally when you're picking a player this late in the draft, you're looking for crazy upsides, someone. That's a lottery ticket type of player, but if you don't want to go with that strategy Danny Amendola specifically NPR leagues is GonNa. Have value for you as a flex as someone that you get in one of the last three rounds of your draft. He's a sure fire kind of late rounder. He has a low ceiling, but he has a very high floor, so he's a rare specimen. Stocks Danny Amendola this year for sure. Because again he's going to go basically undrafted in a lot of leagues and he's got consistent fantasy value. Just sitting there for you like I said especially in PR. He's not going to be a crazy field stretcher, but he's going to be able to haul in plenty of targets for you. All right now in the last team in the NFC north. You guys know my opinion on these guys this year. It's the green. Bay Packers, their number, one guy devante atoms is going on average at wide receiver to behind only Michael, Thomas ADP sitting somewhere between ten and fifteen. Like I said I've made my thoughts clear on Davante Adams love him as a player. He is an excellent wide receiver. He's a top five talent but I am fading him. Just due to the risk of this entire offensive system blowing up this year. It has to happen at some point Aaron. Rodgers has just been grinded on in grinded on by this organization and they refuse to get him any help. The whole situation up there in Green. Bay is volatile, and if things are to start falling apart, Devante, Adams is going to receive the brunt of the negative impact because he is Aaron Rodgers number, one guy, now I'm not saying he's not a top ten wide receiver from a fantasy perspective, but number two is just way too rich for me in taking the risk that that team is going to be able to stay together top of that. There are a couple of things you have to consider. Matt Leflore has shown that he prefers a little. Little bit more of a run heavy scheme. I don't know if he's doing that because it's his philosophy or if it's because Aaron. Rodgers is losing a little bit of that. You know just gunslinger type of ability whatever it is, it's taking away from the wide receivers a little bit, so I'm fading him hard or I need to hear legitimate argument from anybody as to why he deserves that wide receiver to spot I have not heard it yet. So when you have the opportunity Michael Thomas won't be there if you're looking at atoms, but. If you see guys like Julio Chris. Godwin Andre Hopkins on the Board. These are all guys. I am significantly more comfortable taking than Davante Adams this year. Again Adams will finish in the top ten, but he's not going to put up elite numbers I think he's going to produce with numbers more similar to Golladay if not lower. I'm not big on him at all. The rest of the wide receiver is also not super clear. We've got Adam. LAZARD and Devin funchess Liz artists sitting at wide receiver sixty three. His ADP is in the one eighty S. he has value because I mean. Rodgers is as quarterback. Roger does still have strong ability. We're not denying that at all, but again the show that they valued using the running back in even the tight ends more as number two receiving options last year. He. Even, though he was number two, he got less targets than Jimmy Graham old, geriatric Jimmy Graham and Aaron Jones while he was there in twenty nineteen. So Graham has gone. However you still have Aaron Jones. Who's going to be effective as a runner and as a receiver? And then Devin funchess is also going to be a threat. There's not a clear cut number two so much this year. So speaking of funches. He's wide receiver. His ADP IS CLOSER TO FIFTY S. He's a decent flyer pick because he does have a legitimate shot at that wide receiver to spot now. He was hurt last year, so we really didn't see him, but don't forget as recent as two thousand seventeen finish as the wide receiver twenty one so being more of a veteran guy I think he has a chance to develop something with Rogers I. Don't see him in lazard being too far apart at this point in their careers. Careers from a talent perspective, so these guys can either split carries, or you could definitely see funchess. Move Up and just take that number two spot for himself, only other player of know some people were drafting last year's Marquez, the scant Ling he's received plenty of opportunities and just really hasn't been able to capitalize on any of them yet, so I don't see any value in being able to draft him in two thousand and twenty. I think he's going to be off the team sooner than he's going to be able to resecure a starting spot again. He just has not shown an ability to grab that spotlight when it's been given to them been very disappointing to this point, so that is the NFC north. Guys, wow, this is definitely going to have to be a two segment deal. Thank you for sticking with me on that. We're GONNA. GonNa take a quick break when we come back and continue the wide receiver breakdown with the F., C. North also make sure you stick around for the end of the show as I give you. My top ten fantasy prospects the age of thirty. Yes, guys! There are some great names on this list. Age is just a number, so you're listening to the GSM. SMC Fantasy Football podcast. We'll be right back. Check out the show that's built on the way from the UFC two extreme cage fighting, but they got the fights covered. Check out the GSM. See M A podcast. Get the latest news on past or upcoming fights. Join us as we talked to. In about some of the biggest names in the past president future. When it's the fight game, there's just one show checkout GSM see podcasts dot Com backslash Mame dadge podcast. Don't forget to leg amount facebook and follow them on twitter. Busy GSM. See PODCASTS DOT com for more INFO. And Welcome back to the GSM see fantasy football podcast i. am your host BSP. Brandon Soda Penner as you heard last segment we started our wide receiver room previews with the NFC north, and what we're GonNa do this segment now we're gonNA flip over to the AFC north. Wide Receiver Rooms says how we're going to do it moving forward instead of having this one segment like we were doing with the running backs. We're going to split these up in a to. There's a lot of wide receivers that deserve going over. Over for this fantasy season, so I just WanNa, make sure that I give the proper amount of time to be able to cover them properly, so let's go ahead and dive into a guys. The AFC North will start with Cincinnati. Cincinnati is a group that I didn't realize before I started doing this. but I'm really excited about this group I think there are four potential fantasy options here in the Cincinnati's wide receiver room, so we'll start with the biggest one that's Aj Green, and here's the other crazy thing. All of their AJ Green is the highest rank right now, and he's sitting at wide receiver twenty eight, so I think Aj Green and three other guys behind him could produce for your fantasy team this season, so we'll start with green. He's definitely a risk coming off of injury. He didn't play at all. In two thousand, nine, hundred and Mrs Significant amount of time in twenty eighteen as well. However he's coming back. He's had a full year to heal and Joe Borough is the best quarterback. He's had in a long time. Even in his first year Andy Dalton did have that small stretch where he was playing an MVP caliber level, but Generally, speaking, he was an average NFL quarterback at best borough was not afraid to take chances, and it's GonNa. Come in right away and be able to push the ball down the field, which is something that Andy? Dalton never excelled in at the NFL level. Now Even with Dolton as his quarterback in two thousand eighteen, when he initially got hurt, he was pacing thousand yards through his first nine games top of that he's had at least a thousand yards and six touchdowns in every single year that he has been healthy and played all sixteen games, also of note, he missed some time in eighteen, and he missed all of nineteen outside of that he missed a few games in two thousand sixteen. This guys thirty one. He's been in the League for a while so relatively speaking, he has been healthy and when he's healthy, he produces so he doesn't show me any actual decline yet. The only real worry about green is if these injuries continue and I think. If anything he'll be hit early and you can kind of move on from right away, but if he gets a couple games under his belt I fully believe that Jay Green can play all sixteen again and as we've seen if he does, he's going to produce for you and his quarterback has only gotten better I cannot emphasize that enough. Andy Dalton wasn't bad, but Joe Borough is still a definite upgrade for him. So I think wide receiver twenty eight is criminally low for AJ, green, right. Now I'm bumping him up a full eight spots I can have him as my wide receiver twenty fairly comfortably right now as he is the wide receiver. One on what should be A. A much improved offense in twenty twenty now another thing that may be going against Aj green a little bit, not as much as it'll affect the other players on this list, but there are a lot of players for targets to get spread out to this year. Like I said there's four guys I think that could potentially produce for you from a fantasy perspective, but Aj Green is still going to be your clear-cut number one guy so the number two receiver then in Cincinnati. He's only going a few spots behind Jay Green right now. Is Tyler Boyd? He's sitting about the wide receiver. Thirty two and this guy was putting up wider wider for two numbers last year even with. Andy Dalton and Ryan Finley for that matter. He was still producing with very poor quarterback play now again he was putting up fantasy wide receiver to numbers as the One guy there in Cincinnati last year. He's going to have more competition targets specifically with AJ Green coming back, however I think the improvement of the offense overall is going to more than counterbalanced that I think Tyler Boyd has the potential to out. Produce what he was able to do last year, even as the number one. That's how much I believe in Joe. Borough coming into this offense, not to mention that offensive lines should also be improved as. Coming back healthy. They've made some strides to actually short up that offensive line finally out there in Cincinnati, so I do like Tyler Boyd. He's the most ready to be the number two option this year I think he's very clear cut. Right behind green. The way I look at Tyler Boyd if I had to compare him to somebody else in the league I think he's a discount Jarvis Landry type. He's not going to be a sexy pick this year. especially with AJ green coming back off of injury, but he's going to be someone that will produce for you weakened and week out. He's not gonNA. Get you highlight plays. He's not going to be a crazy home run hitter, but he's going to be a consistent option offense. That's going to look to throw the ball a lot in Joe Boroughs first year. So moving on from him to more options here in Cincinnati than I still like so they drafted t higgins this year, but the first pick in the second round so right off the rip. You've got to think that's a heavy amount of draft capital to invest in somebody. You, so I'm assuming he's going to get some sort of playing time now he does need a little time to develop, and there's going to be a lot of competition for targets for him. Especially against some of the veterans in this offense, however I believe fully that they drafted t higgins to be the eventual replacement for AJ Green I am fully convinced Aj, and we'll have a great year this year, but it does seem like the bengals are not incredibly interested in paying him a big. Big contract next go around especially when you see how young the rest of this bengals team is on both sides of the ball. It makes sense drafting teams that high that he is eventually going to be their number one guy. He's not going to get number one target this year I. Don't think he'll get number two targets this year. Considering how Tyler Boyd played in twenty, nineteen, however, he is a definite threat to get some real playing time and I wouldn't be surprised if they. Look at him towards the goal line. He may come out with a couple of key scores for you this year, so at wide receiver seventy seven eighty ADP all the way up in the to hundreds. He might be someone that you can snag. Very late in your draft, and get some really good production out of especially later on in the year as he starts to develop and get acclimated to the NFL, and then the fourth guy guys I know you're probably tired of being burned on him at this point, but it's John, Ross John Ross has struggled to produce over and over again but. Honestly I don't know how much of that is really on him. John Ross has incredible speed. We saw him break the combine record a few years ago. That has not gone away. I can't even count the number of times I've gone back and watched John Ross get blatantly wide open. Just burn the second corner. Andy just didn't have the arm to get it to him now Joe. Borough doesn't have the greatest arm in the world, but again he is a much better downfield passer that Andy. Dalton has ever been so more than anybody here. I think John Ross. Ross is going to benefit from borough now. Being there at signal caller, I can't read other quarterback. He's played with which is just been Dalton and Finley, they have not had the arm strength to get him the ball. They drafted a field stretcher and he's just been completely ineffective, because they can't stretch the field with the guys they have throwing so I'm looking for John Ross. Also have a very good year I do think is value may sit more in fantasy and best ball as he will be very boom or bust type of guy. He's either going have. Two touchdowns, one hundred twenty yards, or he'll have twenty five yards and no scores. It's really going to be one of the other with him. So that's it for Cincinnati again. Four guys there. That could definitely have some real fantasy value for you. Moving on to Cleveland, this is one of the running or the wide receiver rooms rather that I mentioned last episode. I was very interested in taking a deeper dive into so the number. One guy there consensus is Odell Beckham Junior. He is currently listed as wide receiver ten. Is ADP hovering around the fifties? I do think he has excellent. Excellent bounceback potential despite playing every game last year Odell Beckham Junior failed to produce, actually finish behind well behind Jarvis Landry as far as production's production goes. You only had four touchdowns on the year. We did come out that he was playing through an injury the entire year. I fully believe that he has he did get that addressed. As soon as the season was over, he got a surgery and he's had this entire off season just to focus on rehabbing and to heal now I. mentioned four touchdowns for Odell. Beckham that is incredibly low, even in the season's. He struggled he. least was able to muster six scores, so I think he's definitely do for some positive touchdown regression. Four touchdowns was by far his lowest total outside of two thousand seventeen. Where even that year that was the year he was hurt for the majority of the Games he still was able to pick up three touchdowns in four games. So this guy is normally a touchdown scoring machine and last year. He just he struggled a little bit. acclamated to the new offense, and I think that you know the injury really did slow him down as well and a lot of people don't realize is despite the fact that he really struggled. He still had a thousand yards, guys. He managed to muster a thousand yards season aside Jarvis Landry who also was able to get a thousand yards, a little over one thousand yards, and he had bad quarterback play as much as again I'm a browns fan. Guys as much as I like Baker Mayfield. He played like garbage last year and And he was still able to be effective enough as a passer to get both of these guys a thousand yards, so even if Beckham does not get one hundred percent back to his New York giants self, he's definitely going to be significantly better than he wasn't twenty nineteen. I am very confident and being able to bet on that so I think wide receiver ten is a bout where he should be I think the experts are pretty spot on with his ranking. Because again you do have to consider his risk coming back. But again he's not going to be worse than it was last year. That was definitely a fluke for him so moving now to the second wide receiver in that Brown's offense, who once again underrated? He's another guy like I. was saying Falen that he is underrated every single year when it comes to fantasy drafts. That's Jarvis Landry. This guy had a thousand yards last year he has. has a thousand yards nearly every year that he plays, and he is skilled, currently listed as the wide receiver twenty nine. Now there is nothing that has happened over this off season. That leads me to believe that Jarvis. Landry is GonNa take a huge step back as far as production goes he he's finished as at least the wide receiver seventeen every single year and we're talking. Twelve wide receiver spots lower than that right now Cleveland is not added any real offensive weapons. This off season Kareem Hunt came back late last year, and he's GonNa get some targets, but that didn't really seem to take away from either of the receivers. Odell Beckham is going to be better this year, but again we saw even with a struggling Baker Mayfield. He was able to get both of these guys thousand yards so even Odell. Beckham produces more I. Don't think. Think that takes away from Jarvis because there's plenty to go around here. Neither of these guys are going to have a ton of competition for touches outside of their position. I. Mean You've Got Austin Hooper there now at tight end? Who is going to be a nice little weapon for Baker Mayfield, but I don't think he's going to draw that much away. I mean we saw even with David, who when the offense. He got a decent amount of touches, but It wasn't enough to detract from this. It's an impressive wide receiver, one and two here, so like I said even if Odell Beckham. Improves dramatically. There is still an excellent role for Jarvis Landry here in the offense I think he's a low wider low to mid wide receiver to and you're getting him as the thirtieth wide receiver in the draft. That's absolutely nuts I've got him about five spots higher than that. In my initial rankings here, so Jarvis Landry definitely undervalued guy I'm going to have a lot of shares of him this. This year if I can get him, he's just not a sexy pick. People don't like taking Jarvis Landry, because he's not flashy and Odell Beckham is the definition of flashy so I like, both those guys a lot. As far as the rest of the offense goes from a receiver standpoint. You've got Rashard Higgins who he does have a little bit of chemistry with Baker Mayfield? There just doesn't seem like. Like there's going to be much of a role. Cut Out for him this year I think he only caught four balls or something in twenty nineteen, so it seems like he's more of a depth piece and then Donovan People's Jones who they drafted this year in the sixth round I like, but he's a developmental player. He was an athlete at Michigan that played wide receiver, so he definitely has some. Some development to go through before he really takes on a starting wide receiver spot are continuing on guys the Pittsburgh steelers. You've heard me talk about their number. One guy quite a bit because he is a player that I am fading while every other expert really seems to be moving up their boards, and that's Juju Smith Schuster. I still don't see what everyone else does with Juju. I guess. He's sitting at wide receiver. Fourteen I keep hearing guys saying they're moving up into the top ten, even their top five in some instances, so a few issues with this he had a poor twenty nineteen, and yes, a lot of that was probably due to the quarterback play Big Ben got hurt in week. One and you were relying on Devlin Hodges and Mason Rudolph to get him the ball so big Ben's coming back this year. We don't know what Big Ben. We're going to get and we don't know how long we're going to have him. Even if big Ben comes back and somehow plays sixteen games, not confident at all. We don't know if he's going to be anything like he was before the injury what we had seen out of him for the last three or four seasons is it takes him more and more games to really get comfortable and start playing well and getting back to that elite level so? So there's a big chance that he's not going to get back to that level and I think there's a bigger chance that he's not going to play. The majority of the season Big Ben is getting old and the way that he plays quarterback. He's absorbed a lot of hits. He's not mobile. He's never been mobile, and because of that he's always had a great pocket presence, but he gets hit a lot and the fact that he went down so quickly. Last year makes me nervous. There's just a lot hinging on big ben coming back and being the quarterback that he was in order for Ju Ju to be successful I. Just don't see it. That's a lot of variables to have to bet on hope. They fall in a place on top of that again. Not necessarily his fault, but he hasn't been able to prove that he can be a solid wide receiver one yet. This guy finished last year I. Think is the wide receiver sixty. Right even. Wide Receiver Great Wide Receiver. The bad quarterback can produce better than that where we saw Juju have as most successes when Antonio Brown was on the other side of the field, and the attention was being taken away from him. I'm not saying I. Don't think you can be number one, but we haven't seen it, so that's just now a third variable that I have to bet on if I want Juju Smith Schuster on my fantasy football roster. There's just way too many risks involved. Involved with taking him again. He's currently at fourteen from everything I've been hearing. He's going to be going much higher than that. In a lot of drafts, so I am fading him quite a bit. If you can get him in late round shirt, take the risks. Guys because everything does fall into place has amazing upside. However, he's being taken way too high right now and I will take that to my grave. I am not taking Juju Smith Schuster anywhere near wide receiver fourteen. Now the other player that we talk about Pittsburgh is Deontay. Johnson. He's currently going as the wide receiver. Forty to ADP is up in the one twenty S. he is clear wide receiver to in this offense and actually. With the two backup quarterbacks their last year. He was actually targeted more than Juju Smith Schuster. Now Juju, did miss a couple of games, but it was a pretty significant gap between the two. A lot of people are picking Johnson as a popular breakout. Because of how he was able to produce last year, he did finish as a solid bottom tier, wide receiver, too wide receiver, three type of player, but for a lot of the same reasons that I can't bet on. Juju Smith Schuster I'm not going to be betting on Deontay Johnson either. I just lack competence in Pittsburgh's offense as a whole I'm not really comfortable picking anybody out of this wide receiver room right now. Only other players of note there. We've got chased Klay Pool. They selected this year in the second round of the NFL draft, and then James Washington in there as well. I think these guys are going to end up splitting time. There are rumors that they drafted claimable this similar to the to Cincinnati situation. They drafted Klay Pool to potentially replace Judy. Smith Schuster because just like me. Pittsburgh steelers aren't completely sold on Juju quite yet. They don't. Want to pay him that second contracts. This is going to be a big year for him to to try to prove something, and if he doesn't show that, he can be a wide receiver one, you might be looking at Chase Klay. Who in two thousand twenty one as the potential starter starting number one receiver for this Pittsburgh? steelers offense again like I said very similar to that Cincinnati city, but this year Klay pull in Washington I. Don't really see a lot of upside to drafting them whatsoever, so I would just pass on those guys in general and. Not Least Amazingly the team in the NFC North really out of any AFC north rather have any of these teams that we've covered. That has the best offense and had the best team in twenty nineteen has the worst receiving targets guys that you really aren't going to want to put a lot of stock in in two thousand twenty and so yes Baltimore Ravens Markey's. Brown is the number one guy he's currently sitting at wide receiver thirty one. He did have a disappointing rookie year from a fantasies perspective. The Ravens just don't pass the ball a lot when he does throw Lamar. Lamar, Jackson is effective, but we saw the ravens be able to be incredibly productive just by running the ball, both with their quarterback, and with their running back slash year they have three capable runners of the football now going into twenty twenty with Lamar Jackson with J. Dobbins, and with Mark Ingram so all three of those guys carrying the ball I don't see Brown getting a ton of looks at last year in half of his starts. This really blew me away for as much as hype around Marquees Brown. He had less than twenty seven yards, twenty seven yards or less. In half of his starts in twenty, nine, thousand, nine hundred. Twenty seven yards. So I look at him at best, he's a very solid boom or bust player. I see value with him. Best Ball! I don't see a lot of value from anywhere else. He's not going to be a great PR target I don't really like him in standard either. Overall he's just going to be very inconsistent fantasy player. He's going to be frustrating weekend and week out, and he's going to be touchdown dependent. He's GonNa. Lose targets as well to mark Andrews there I just I. Don't really like the situation with Brown. He may develop nicely into a wide receiver, but he's just a cog in an offense. That's not going to utilize him enough for him to be a solid. Solid consistent fantasy wide receiver thirty one is probably about right I might fade them a little bit more, but he is one of the worst wide receiver ones in the League, which again is weird to think about because Baltimore had such a high powered offense last season, but they did it on the back of Lamar Jackson and they're running backs and Mark Andrews, not nearly as much as the receiving core. Speaking of which! The rest of the receivers on the team. Guys I'm not even going to lie to you. I had to to look them up. Smiles Boykin and then Devon do rene who's a rookie this year? These are the second third guys on second third wide receivers on a team that doesn't utilize their wide receivers so I. Think it goes without saying. There's really no value in them at all here so Baltimore and Pittsburgh two rooms that I would definitely avoid whereas Cincinnati and Cleveland is significantly higher on. You can find great value through out. Both of those rosters so that'll. That'll do it for the first round of our wide receiver room previews next week. We're going to take a look at the wide receivers of the NFC and AFC East really looking forward to that, and of course, guys stick around for the last segment I. Give you the top ten fantasy prospects over the age of thirty again. Guys. Age is just a number. You can still find value in some of the old guys. I'm going to tell you who you need to target there. You are listening to the GMC fantasy football podcast will be back in a moment. Out this show build around the women of MMA from the UFC extreme caged fighting. We got to fights cover. The golden state media concepts women's MMA podcast, the latest news of upcoming fights discussions of previous mattresses. As we talked to about the biggest names in women's mixed martial arts past present and future. When it's the women's fight game, you know where to listen to the golden state media concepts women's MMA podcast. And welcome into the final segment of the. Fantasy football podcast I am your host BSP Brandon Soder Penner, Hope. You've enjoyed everything so far as we were able to tackle five, burn questions right at the start of the show, and then took two segments here to dive into the wide receiver groupings of the AFC and NFC north. This we're going. Do a going forward. Guys. I'M GONNA. Hit you with the top five burning questions right off the rip in. In future episodes here and we're going to take the two middle segments dive into the perspective. Wide Receiver groupings that we're looking at that day next week. We're going to take a look at the NFC and AFC east so get very excited about that going forward. It's nice to be able to get into a different up positional group as much like running backs and as important as they are you only? Dive into that so much all right? You've made it almost all the way through the show, and that means it is time for our top ten four today's episode and today we are looking at the top ten fantasy players over the age of thirty again. Guys that, even though they are starting to get past the quote, unquote prime are still real solid fantasy players for you guys you do not. Not have to worry about dropping off the radar in two thousand twenty number ten guys. It's Matt Ryan. He is thirty five years old. He is usually undervalued as a quarterback. He did have one year where he was the MVP where he took Atlanta to a super bowl, but he always puts up pretty incredible passing numbers. He's generally lost in the shuffle with the bigger name. Guys like Aaron Rodgers. Tom Brady Patrick Mahomes, but he is always going to be able to produce for you. He's also the head of a very efficient offensive system in Atlanta where they're going to love to throw the ball around any s two of the best wide receivers in the League at his disposal with Julio Jones and Calvin Ridley so Matt Ryan will have plenty of value for you this year despite being. Being thirty five years old, and as you can expect, there are going to be a decent amount of quarterbacks on this list. quarterbacks more so than running backs. especially even wide receivers are going to tend to be able to produce longer. They don't have the same kind of physical toll taken on their bodies, so they're going to have longer NFL careers and in turn are going to be. Be Able to produce for much longer periods of time, but there are still running backs on this list as you were actually going to see coming up next with Mark Ingram, so mark Ingram is thirty years old, and I have said that as a knock on him because it is, he is starting to get up there in age, which will hurt running back, but at least at the beginning. Beginning of the season. He is going to have that number one running back spot lockdown for Baltimore, and even if he does lose that to J. Dobbins as the year goes on, he still has value in that. The Ravens are gonNA. Run the ball more than almost anybody. That's what they do. Their receivers really have no fantasy value so mark Ingram even if he gets bumped down to. To running back to is still going to get you good fantasy numbers weaken, and we got especially at the start of the season. He can be a real stud for you. They're gonNA feature him quite a bit so again, despite being thirty years old like Mark Ingram a lot. He's number nine on this list number eight. You heard me devote an entire segment to him a few weeks ago. Ago Cam Newton Cam Newton. Now going to New England I. Think he's GonNa utilize. They're better than he ever was in Carolina. People forget about him because he only played two games in two thousand nineteen and those two games did not look very good at all, but you've got to remember. He was hurt for both of those. He seems like he's recovered from his injuries and I think. Think. He's going to be geared up ready to go there in New England. He might have lost a step because he is very physical kind of quarterback. He's taken more hits than most especially at the age of thirty one. However, he's still going to be able to run. You don't just lose your speed overnight and like I. Said Bill Belichick is going to be able to utilize him. Him in the best way possible at this point, his career and Cam Newton has potential fantasy league winning ability, so I have him here at number eight number seven. The oldest player on this list by far is Tom Brady in Tampa Bay forty two years old, we saw him as a pretty much an undrafted fantasy quarterback at least last year I wanna say finish at eighteen or nineteen. So. quarterback leaves. You could use them, but now you're putting him in a system down there in Tampa, Bay, where he has all kinds of weaponry. You're giving him. Chris. Godwin Mike Evans Gronk OJ Howard. He is. He's just got incredible arsenal in front of him, and even though Tom Brady has definitely taken a step back ability wise I think he's got too many weapons down there in Tampa Bay to fail and again this wide receivers are incredible I know James. Winston threw the ball a lot. Which is what may be inflated the numbers a little bit, but Winston was also not a very accurate quarterback, and these guys are still regularly coming down with balls so again passing them Tom Brady now the assassin. The sniper I think Brady is going to have significant uptick in fantasy value as opposed last year so I love Tom Brady even though he is forty. Forty two years old, absolutely incredible on number six on my list is t. y., Hilton, now people are a little bit down on ty. He is thirty years old this year and he's had some injuries US last few seasons. It's hard for him to stay on the field for sixteen games, but I do think as opposed to Jacoby perset he he's got an upgraded quarterback Philip rivers. He's going like to push the ball down the field a little bit which is going to help Michael Pittman, junior who they drafted this year but I think it's also going to help t y Tu t y has crazy speed and he has a true ability to. To stretch the field, and when you had somebody in their last year like Jacoby, per said he lacked the ability to be able to push the ball away. He Liked T. Hilton was a lot more effective with Andrew. Luck because luck had that kind of armed could get him good down. The field targets I think rivers, while definitely not being Andrew Lock is going to be a clear upgrade and t y Hilton has some real -bility to kind of bounce back here in twenty twenty number, five and other wide receiver that has dealt with injuries lately, and that is Aj Green. Who is thirty one years old? You heard me talk about it. It a little bit earlier I think he's got an excellent chance to finish as a wide receiver one this year he's got an upgraded quarterback with Joe Borough, the offensive line is better and just because he missed twenty nineteen with an injury I don't think that necessarily means is going to be injury prone. He's going to see the field plenty and I think he's got real a real chance to put up excellent numbers down there in Cincinnati even with all of the other great wide receivers that are going to be around him. So I love Aj Green here. Especially for his relative fantasy value the number five there for me for sure. Number four is Russell Wilson. Is One of the I'd say probably the third best quarterback from fantasy perspective this year, the other two guys both being very young in Lamar, Jackson, and Patrick Mahomes, but Russell Wilson at thirty one years old is going to have that third quarterback spot lockdown. We've seen it more and more as the defense starts to get worse there in Seattle and they start to have to rebuild that a little bit. Seattle's been forced to throw. Throw the ball. More and more and Russell Wilson has shown that even with limited offensive weapons with a poor offensive line. He still has the ability to move. He has the ability to get things done with his legs, and he still has the ability to swing the ball down the field and get guys open. He makes the players around him better, and that gives him tremendous value as a quarterback, and as a fantasy prospects i. I Love Russell, Wilson here at number four number three Kinda cheated on this one, but not really it's Adam Falen. He's twenty nine right now, but he will be thirty a couple of weeks before the season starts now. The guy you heard me talk about a lot earlier. He has a shot to be able to lead the NFL in targets this year the moving him back to his natural slot position. He has great report with. With Kirk cousins and he doesn't have to find digs taking touches away from him. He has just in Jefferson there now. It's still a clear drop off. At least in the first year. compared to Stefan digs that he's not the same type of player that was either, so I can see Adam. falen getting a lot of volume in this offense and we know what he can do when he has the ball in his hands. So, Adam. falen excellent fantasy option this year against thirty years old number two is Travis Kelsey at thirty years old. He shows no signs of stopping. You have tyreek Hill there as the speed option in Kansas, city but travis. Kelsey is going to be the regular safety valve in Kansas City. You saw him do it with Alex, Smith. You're seeing it again now. With Patrick Mahomes. Kelsey might be the best receiving actually know what no. He is the best receiving tight end in the league and each year. He's been consistent. He's shown no. No real drop in a fantasy value, and has a clear shot finishing as the number one fancy tight end the season, even again at thirty years old and everything is just compounded by the fact that he is part of that high flying chiefs offense that is going to sling the ball around a lot. So even his ability does start to decline at some point. He is going to be able to produce of sheer volume and opportunity so again. I Love Travis Kelsey. They're at thirty and guys. Number one should be no surprise. It's Julio Jones at worst. He is the second best wide receiver in the League even still. No one has been more consistent from fantasy value over the last five years than he has regularly finished in the top five, I think he might have had one season where he finishes the seven fantasy wide receiver when he was dealing with some injury issues, but man Julio is always on the field, and he is always a threat. He's a little frustrating, sometimes because you don't get a lot of like two three touchdown games out of him. Him But you know one touchdown here. One touch down here. One time out here. Everything adds up and Julio is one of the most consistent fantasy targets in the league, even at thirty one years old, so clear-cut number one guys. It is Julio Jones. A guy that is going to go in the first round aplenty. A fantasy drafts this year. So there you have it guys. My top ten fantasy players over thirty. Julio Jones taking that Crown? I WanNa thank you guys again for listening. It's been a lot of fun doing the show today again finally diving into the wide receivers next week, and it gets you into the wide receivers of the AFC an NFC east again. Do not forget to follow the show you find on twitter at G. S. MC. Underscore F- football, and they give me a follow as well at L. Machine one seven, I promise I'll give you guys the story behind that name here. 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"Previously on the Tony Kornheiser show up until Baez twenty nine. She's now in the most wanted list in California because as a psychic she went to people and said give me money I will bless it and then it would double so these people GEICO. I don't see a crime. I don't either opera. Probably I don't know that is just praying. I'm not not sure that's a crock. That's financial darwinism. The Tony Kornheiser show is on now. All righty then Gary Braun is here. Excuse me for coughing worse crystallises here. Michael Kornheiser was here. Nigel's here running the board producing the show doing the news and we'll do. NFL football at the top. Except except we have to interrupt the beginning of the show just to talk about and we will get to the President's Cup to talk about Steve Sands hanging around with some Melbourne little's Australian liberals from the Melbourne area. And sending a picture out that I got I thank you you know I just check my tax. Probably got hung and made me so happy. KINNEAR's welcome to the show again. Yeah I mean I'm GonNa talk extensively about snow in my house. You know. And and they and they listen down on. I'm pretty big in Melbourne town. Maybe that maybe Melbourne Florida Art Florida war games. I guess you could count. I guess you could count the Pittsburgh game too. Because he's intercepted in the endzone late and something that could be the game. He got intercepted. Four Time Yup twice in the higher not like how bad is Mason. Rudolph must really think terrible. If Dot com scramble Graham Ward hit okay. So the Falcons beat the forty niners at the Buzzer Matt. Ryan throws a pass at the buzzer remarkable in that Ryan was the MVP to leak for five years years ago I I mean Jones remains extremely audit football. The end is how they are so bad and yet in the second half of the season. They're not awesome beat the forty niners thus scrambling the playoff seedings. The Jaguars beat the raised raiders. At that really Lee surprised nobody cares about that game. But gardening minhsiu threw two touchdown passes in the last X.. Whatever was and beat the raiders in their last home engage beat them at the Buzzer? It's a small sample but it does seem like Menchu is the better choice over falls. It's I mean it's US although it is disheartening to see that he has applied for patent protection on words like Mississippi Mustache. Yeah you know that you said he's going mustache next. Lohia rolled uneven. No all that stuff. So that's all like representation. Does that stuff name is on those petitions Gardner Minhsiu the second or the Fourth Governor Alert Flint Menchu I believe whatever the packers beat the bears at the Buzzer with with a wild play. They hold off the bears it. It looks like they're not playing defense at all West. Wilburn about this because we'll of course watched every second of the bears game. The packers just enough to win you know Uncle Milton. Just in the fullback Maybe it's Pat. I forget the name of the do but if the fullback who who possesses the ball last for the bears looks to his right. It's like a rugby plays. Alan Robinson's out. There you pitch it. It is a touchdown. They yes the Green Bay packers. It did not contest them until about the ten yard line. Well so were they do so that way. If you remember the what do that is any reads invention I think it was I don with tyree kill against the cowboys a couple years ago where they threw underneath in an obvious hail Mary right so I guess everyone's back at the goal line they said well there's GonNa give us the first ten and then we can try to get by and that was my corrected until the tenure he was going in one hundred percents. I mean very odd. By the way the the the packers are now. Eleven and three feels to me like he just overrated. I I mean a game in the workers in the forty niners they win these scary Gary. I know even though they don't look prominent at all. Well look I think one of the things I said about them on the television show. Was They outpoint you. They don't knock you out. They just outpoint you. There are fighter that does that but they perilously close to land if it is a close game. And you're gonNA give that dude the ball by that dude. I mean Aaron Rodgers at the end and of it you're gonNA average. That's that's right that's right. So those who all the games that ended right at the buzzer except for one the game where the eagles covered at the Buzzer such a dagger. It's heading down. It's absolutely impossible for that to happen. Yes it is. The last play of the game it is a fumble and a fat guy and I mean of fat guy touch rumbles from about thirty yards out. My kids love the fifty. They were midfield. And I know this because I was thinking to myself had Dwayne Haskins taken the snap taking the sack and I- rewound this to look at it. There was a time. Could've taken a snap call time out when second Marya so's about midfield that is a that is a cover of the worst warrior. If you have the Redskins who I think have covered three of the last four weeks or something like that with big points. This was not big points at all. You can live with the fact act. The Eagles get the touchdown with thirty two seconds to go. 'CAUSE you're winning. You're winning you redskin. You're winning Hashtag win and that that play away all I could think of I watched it was my God. They're gonNA cover. The Eagles are going to cover. It's just a million. I would suggest I would suggest if you are betting money on the Redskins do respect to reginald intended you you deserve you may as well be giving your money to that lady to bless it. Yes yes I mean come on. I'M NOT GONNA. I'm not going to argue that point. But you'd go on the whole route. And you thought you would WANNA cow heartbreaking be cowboys drilled. The Rams Rams I'm happy I don't understand that. The Vikings drilled the chargers the Patriots drilled the Bengals but they're the bengals and that was ten ten at one the goals that was ten ten. The bills are at the Patriots on Saturday yourself. The bills can be thirteen. Ten at halftime it got ugly but it was not most defended you. Yeah I would point out if you are a patriots fan. This is the one saving grace on the touchdown in the second half to Nikial Harry Three Brady threw it a hundred miles. An Hour Brady looked like a real quarterback although Brady's QBR and I don't understand this particular metric but Brady's Qbr in the last six weeks's terrible it's like forty the only guy. It's higher than six weeks Dwayne Haskins. That's it he's the only I mean look. Is that a fact. Yeah his Brady's Ladies Numbers Fifteen for twenty nine for one hundred twenty eight yards now. He threw two touchdowns but no one caught more than three passes. You don't have anybody to receive. The ball contained nineteen bengals. But that's still a problem against a good team. Yes the Eagles wide receivers that don't have any wide receivers. They're all out so they have have. Somebody named Fred Ward Junior. He he was a quarterback at Houston whilst Scott quarterback wide receiver for the Eagles. Yeah what are you talking about the the town by him he he did beat beat Zaman Zakar take their best options. They don't have anything title. So if like if you're Patrick Mahomes you know that Travis Kelsey is the best thing you got killed starting at semi wideouts. Yes starting. Why does Philadelphia doesn't have anything I don't I? I don't know how having watched eagles now two in a row The Eagles have won two games but late they beat the giants and the redskins skins right away cow. The cowboys don't beat them. There's no way is there and I think the cowboys team so mad this week. It's recency Z.. By they were so bad and they just blew out the ram something. I'm GonNa see if I can find an early lot isn't that what is that Philadelphia Well we're in the good tight end How about George Kill? Yes I know. They lost thirteen for one thirty four. The problem was Garoppolo. D- grappled in have another completion to he. Threw you one guy to other times manual sanders but I mean thirteen for one dollars a result of everything that happened you now have in the NFC. The seahawks are the number one scene. One of US sitting at this table about seven weeks ago said the seahawks and the Ravens would be in the super bowl and got a little bit laughed at by Wilpon. But we'll see the ravens are the number one seed in the AFC. The bills can well a patriots have to lose twice for the bills to play the dolphins in the last. Yes they want. They've won decent hard game and then the dolphins. What's the bills the bills? And that's a hard game. Yes the bills could vary Tony Cowboy Bill. The bills have made the playoffs. Their defense is dying years ago and it's two years ago two three years ago this guy the coach of the bills. Whose name is Sean McDermott? Sun's outgoing I ripped him. I made such fun of him. This bodybuilding Mook. Who didn't know anything who had said he had Nathan? Peterman was a starting quarterback. And that's the heater man was such a disaster. Well I'm wrong. I'm not wrong about Nathan Peterman but I'm wrong about this coaching football. Yeah they got a great defense. There often Josh Allen is good these appears to be good enough the one takeaway. I have from everything. Yesterday is because you saw this a lot you saw last-second throws to the end zone and people are not knocking the town. Everybody tries to catch it. What do you do all try to catch it? What are you doing just terrible coaching? Isn't it downtown down the mammoth one of those years trying to get you through UTAH. You don't have to catch it. The offense has to get its knock. Doc You town right I screw yes yes crazy. Down Games Dallas cowboys opened a one point favorite quickly. Bet Up to two and a half right to an and another line that just jumped out of me of interest redskins early two point favorite over the giants giants manager. I'm and quiet in the what could be the sticks. I don't well they edge. Jones has an ankle sprain. So you're manning won a game. Guess he did back to five hundred thirty three I t's they chanted his name going off he want. AP MVP A one one result. You did did not mention and maybe you're saving. It was Texans. Titans oh I figured what do that you know. News or solids use them. But those I watched I watched red zone The the prejudice the red zone prejudice against bad teams is so clear. Yeah you didn't see any of that. Dolphins game dolphins giants right. Yes the only points in that game and they never went to that game. They didn't want to go to the eagles and the Redskins they went nap happen in the middle of that some time. I fell asleep while you now gauge you. Don't you don't see they wanna they wanNA show you the chiefs chiefs because it's in the snow course at the backpackers in the bears patriots. So the other thing is is. What's my boy's name? Jameis Winston instant opens opens with intersects. He's the man. and then throws thousand yards and touchdown pass got close. It's just that's what they do. It's like most watchable game ever. I have great if I receiver. I'm team if I'm Tampa Bay. And I've hired. Bruce Arians wants to try to fix this guy and they've won a bunch of games calmly in him alone. I am not dropping him. I'm signing him. He's throwing slowly side hundred yards correct. It's just tremendously excited. He has forty five hundred yards and thirty touchdowns. Now we'RE NOT GONNA get into his interceptions Clemmie of them. which is he leaves? It's over twenty. Isn't it Yeah it's Hold on twenty twenty some odd twenty four twenty four twenty four thirty thirty touchdowns. Let's focus on the positive career plus six plus all right. We'll get out of here. Wilpon will join us when we return. I'm Tony Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. We are sure that you've read all the gift giving lists but you don't really have the time to keep scouring the Internet for the perfect gift for her this holiday season and here's the perfect gift with our trendy and classic option Swarovski has all of this season's must have styles. The new holiday collection starting at sixty nine dollars makes it easy for you to get her something special without the stress on your wallet shop. The Naughty and Nice collection and other brilliant pieces that will leave her sparkling from ear to ear. And you anxiety-free free feeling like you nailed it. This is jewelry this accessories these very very beautiful crystals whether you want to go out of the box and get her something fun or keep it more. 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And when he called back the first question I said I could go on and on on this was what we opened the show with it. What were the packers doing going on the last play Mike? The bears are at the tin before they're actually contested by the packers. They were guarding for for a Hail Mary so they were stuffed between the goal line in the back of the end zone. That's what they were. That's what they were planning. There's an actual answer to this a mystery but when the pass is completed fifteen yards down you know. There's no Hail Mary it. It didn't get up to act quickly and the bears also executed. That played pretty okay. Well they blocked. They knew what they were going to do. One more pitching that in Robinson walks in though. I thought it was going to be like the dolphins play. I actually thought they wouldn't have won the game. They would have had a two point conversion to tie the game right but they they. They came up with something executed something. They clearly practiced and say okay. Yeah we're in this position. Here's what we're GONNA do and they almost put it off and you could see the anguish on the face of Little Cohen number. Twenty nine th this sort of impactful impactful Scott back that we have who just ate because he was behind trubisky he wanted to pitch. He thought he was getting and he's the bears shifty guy but but to bisky trying to get seventeen What about why receivers whose name is escaping me right now and the ball just goes goes off the foot of a packer? That's what happens if he gets it to seven seen. I think we win the game there too or not win the game to tie. Hi Game What do you. What do you think of given the fact that that yesterday had a lot of close games and there were hail Marys into the end zone? The number number one point. I want to make that we talked about earlier is nobody knocks the ball down which is insane but to to not do the Hail Mary and do this. Play that you work on privately absolutely you know during the week which is more advisable to you at depends on your team who you've got. How many guys that you have? Who can wiggle free? What's the element of surprise fries would do? What was the other team aligned in and clearly you know at that point the bears thought they had something yeah that they could get? There's no a universal rule to me. I mean you you play that one by Miami did last year so it you still GonNa get Lucky. I mean you still gotTa have you know some guys Miss Tackles or br break assignments or arrogant. Think the game's over. Maybe the packers just thought it was over every team would rather get to the thirty or thirty five because you you've from thirty yards out any. NFL quarterback can step into an zebra throw. You can run up versus being at midfield and launching a hail. Mary I mean no one wants to throw Royale Mary. I don't Wanna unless you're Aaron Rogers. Four of them including a playoff game or two so You know game in that game was about what I expected it was the packers are better. one score better. Although you know nobody will talk about this today because because bears on team the national media gives a damn about so all the know. It alls won't talk about it they got host. The packers scored three touchdowns. I scored was a gift. It was a gift from an officials. Possession change it shouldn't happen. The bears forced a fumble. And they didn't they didn't review because somebody said when they blew the whistle because the bears. There's a penalty thrown and the officials said. Well he hit the Return Mail on a punt early. No he didn't he didn't like like a like a second and a half later wasn't it wasn't close so you know that was just matthew running into that. I have a snow day. They up just like Chicago. What is it cloudy? Wet Roads Cloudy and fifty one. You don't want the kids hair to get wet well on right cloudy the fifty one in DC so. Let me go back to another thing that we talked about. And we we have a disagreement on this. I watch the packers and I think of them in the same way. Now that I think of the Patriots that I have no particular confidence in them. You on the other hand. You think they're good. They are good. They're eleven and three and their quarterback is not not air rogers make plays yesterday gets a rival defense. No they're not the painting on the the the the Minnesota Vikings likings and the Green Bay packers. Either one could get to the Super Bowl did you. They did beat San Francis-. Don't tell me they can't beat San Francisco but your opinion of San Francisco went down yesterday. Yeah of course Yes yes absolutely it went. I mean Atlanta Atlanta's had a couple good wins but no no. No no no. They're not San Francisco's not some world-beater and they got Aaron Rogers so I don't I'm not buying that. I'm not buying that. Everybody falls in love with teams and they don't get off until they lose in the playoffs and they go. Oh well we should have seen that comment. What do you make of? What Dallas did to the rams? Cam's not much I mean. We know the doubt Dallas was. The urgent desperate team used. They had to do this. They had to do that or or their here. Season would've actually ended. I know they could've still won the division. I get that but Dallas had to respond in a way. They were tired sick and tired of being sick and tired and owner puts them in his position by running his mouth every day wrong. I thought they wouldn't win anymore. Games I thought the rams coming there and beat them. The Rams are good. The Rams have recovered to some degree. But they're not so good that you bet on them on the road like that I I wouldn't I know I I. I you know the the the confidence pool I certainly had The days wrong with with a forty niners with that was like my fourteen. Fourteen point game. I got the redskins wrong. Even though only had two points on them you know you thought they would win. Outright other gives will win so this is not. We don't do this point spread. This has confidence. How much confidence do you have your pick one through sixteen Dallas with eight or nine point so I was fairly confident I think I would have put? I would've put New England one on that one like I would put the most England was Baltimore on Thurs.. Okay right. Eighteen gene there in New England. Yeah so that was the forty nine for fourteen. You lose a double digit game. Although I gotTA look at the poll results everybody had to have them double digits over in Atlanta. So I know that you know you pay attention to WHO's in and WHO's out for teams that you like teams that you pay attention to Carson. wentz has no wide receivers receivers. He has none. They are playing a quarterback a college quarterback now at wide receiver or something. Yeah and and I'm not saying beating the REDSKINS is a big deal but Carson Wentz came back threw three touchdown passes Carson wentz. Looks better now better by far than he did. Five or six seven weeks ago when we were looking can add saying you picked the wrong Guy Redskins. Yeah well redskins will they be. Eagles beat last week. Giants giants okay late on the road arguably the tour seems now this week the cowboys you'll find out we'll find out a little bit more the cowboys while they're not great. They're they're they're awake and breathing right redskins giants. Sorry okay interesting so those are discounted for you. They don't matter they just irrelevant. You gotTa beat somebody. The matters with breathing players who are capable of winning a playoff game and the and the redskins somewhere giants now So I'm also interested in this because as you know the division and you know the team I watch Matt Patricia. A guy who I thought at the beginning of the year had something going on because he had Stafford Stafford's missed missed four or five games. They've lost every game right right. Steve Fire Him no first of all. That's not what the Detroit lions do don't don't do it. They don't they don't do that And so I don't think they will fire him. I feel I think he can walk in there and say you know you Mr Fort. Art paid this guy more than anybody in the Ford Company in the history of the company right and so if you think that of him why would you get rid of me if we don't have him and by the way didn't not you know we don't have him starting in camp. We can sort of make. Some preparation didn't have them at all. This is like when the when the when the cults even though he's not that players Andrew Luck why would you fire them aperture. I wouldn't find patrician now. Who Do you think gets fired? Oh God I think a bunch of people get fired. Well maybe I mean if we go through this the most disability Shurmur with giant fire you know gets fired because he allies now winning games now. Callahan likely not retain alley all that fired right You Know I. Ah There's there's there's some bad there's some bad football I mean. Yesterday was just a day in which you know there were there were some good endings. Two Games. But they're not gonNA fire him. But look at the raiders. That's a that's A. That's an awful I was. I was passed by. Hi Dad Watch all that crap about the black hole for an hour before became shut up fans behaved nicely after the game. Geez I oh so. Glad he made good made a run in the middle of the year and has now lost four in a row. He's not going GONNA get fired. No I've only know but you know you know they're not any good. I told you Friday Tony. This was the worst week of NFL football in two years in that there were there. Were almost no match ups that anyone could care about even locally bears packers. Obviously you know I mean. That's the oldest matchup historically workman-like everything else was junk anyway. Going in Houston Nice South and Houston all right. The Eagles Redskins you just mentioned why was GonNa be diminished going in because he has a player. Eagles Eagles did have five five thousand seats. Other people deal yesterday It said X.. Was it had to be seventy percent of the people there had to be fulfilled. Gets up and it was probably sixty percent occupied yet. Yeah seriously we're the home game. The bears game. We'll buy just just google up. Highlights of the game winning touchdown catch and listen to the crowd. I mean it's a home game. Wow game on. But I've never had the sound on because that was going against redskins. Let's get like when they last. I know last year I had a friend WHO's at the same deal late in the season. The Eagles came into town. It was total. Takeover mattered for the eagles when the Redskins were introduced they they were booed. There's there's no so that leads me. To the land of the field. Last question you prob may or may not know this if you watched a lot the TV you would know this. One of the people in Snyder's box yesterday was watch the game. I just know images I saw. What redskin game do you WanNa read anything into Urban Meyer? Being there Well he could go. He had a lot of players yes said he wanted to see his guy. Alex Smith yes. Urban Meyer added Utah. Oh how stated do not So you've got Alex Smith there and he's got a quarterback and receiver cholorine. Yes so you know I I guess what's his name Chase young probably wasn't back from the heisman yet. But if he was he could have been in attendance. He lives here. He Lives Fifteen minutes stadium so there was a lot of urban Meyer. People there I you know me. I don't like higher in college coaches in the pros and e e either sport. But he's an accepted. I would make you not Jimmy Johnson. He's not because he hasn't spent his every waking moment away from his team studying pro football and visiting camps like Jimmy Johnson. People WanNa make this analogy. No no various Switzer. He didn't do that basically. It's Paulie back on everything. Jimmy Johnson Jimmy Johnson's in original when it comes to this and the guy after him was bobby Ross. Bobby Ross is actually coached in the NFL. This is not like you know Pete Carroll who coast I in the Nfl Urban Meyer as a college coach. But I would. I would give him a shot if I was redskins because if you can move into position if you're not already there and chase young may go three or four depending on what people think of the quarterbacks and the redskins could be very very currently four and if they lose to the giants this week they can they then. Yeah then. They're up to three well. And Yeah you need to get the giant in your rear view. You'd get them because they just took a quarterback like you did right so I I I would. I would seriously quirk urban Meyer. Now there's no reason for Urban Meyer to take the risk. And if he gets Kabwe offer none and so Jerry Jones thinks to himself okay. Urban Meyer is attractive to me. In a way that Lincoln Riley may not be and it comes down to the two of them I I it is even if it was the two of them I think I would go with urban Meyer anyway especially if I'm the Redskins and I have drafted his quarterback his receiver and I'm looking through the draft to try to get his his defensive end. Why wouldn't you hire urban? Meyer if you'RE GONNA if you're GonNa pull the Dan Snyder he's GonNa be enamored of somebody who is famous and you're not gonNA get talked out of it this time and you get the right Gruden then if you're GonNa do that. That's his formula. So yeah when they showed him yesterday I just started. I'd call Netherland. I said there's your next coast Jerry. Jones doesn't get him. I all right all right. I'll see you later. All right Michael Wilbon boys and girls we will come back. We'll do news when we come back later in the show. When we talk about the Redskins we will talk about Urban Urban Meyer amongst ourselves and the possibility of him being the next redskins coach? Because I'm I know Bill Callahan's a fine man money ain't going to be the next redskins coach. I'm Tony Kornheiser Heuser. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. I WANNA remind listeners. That time is running out on simplisafe's huge holiday offer. It's their biggest sale of the year. If you're looking to fully protect your home with award winning twenty four seven home security now's the time to do it. Burglary Spike during the holiday season with families traveling and leaving empty homes inexpensive gifts beyond simply safe's holiday sale couldn't come at a better time. Simplisafe has everything you need to protect your home and family. There's a smart lock and video doorbell pro to defend in your front door. 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Latest is today so those will be arriving having to your house if we have the Hopi and made some and I don't I don't know if this is why this was like a special ron and embarrassed to say I don't remember taste of it but I guess somebody was mentioning something like I was speaking the Gospel or something and the and then the result of that was and he's sending a bunch which I'm GonNa give it to my kid's Christmas because I go to no expense for my children Some Braun Three sixteenths shirts that is available that is available black Johnny Sixteen over says thank you for giving us the rights to use that route. Yes thank you by Gary. That's through his great pro. Pick you up a nice comeback. A wonderful win for your Americans in the President's Cup in Australia. The highlight of the day for me was when when sands was interviewing tiger afterwards and prompted me to throw an email attacks right adam where tigers looks goes. Thanks Sandy was just so oh great thanks. I got some match ago watcher now So I would ask Michael. There's there's some players who did very well. We did well in the singles as everybody thought we would do. Well as expected did Dustin Johnson and Patrick Reed who had not been any good one in the singles. Gary Woodland didn't win singles. Sandie Shaw Fly. One Patrick can't lay those guys were good. They were good the entire tournament and they won Tony fee now who boil boy puts himself in a tremendous whole time after time and then gets out. Somehow we learn how to put on the back nine. Yeah he really does. So but but what I'm going to get to. Is this eldrick. Woods played in three matches and won the mall all won the mall In the two matches he played with Justin Thomas Jefferson. Thomas hit some great pots at the end but tiger carried those men and Thomas recognized as much Oh and tiger. Beat Abraham Abraham answer who was gritty. Who was the best player on the international squad and wanted a piece of tiger and went and said it'll be a great honor if he you got to play tiger and Tiger beat him? That was a very close match that went to the sixteenth hole. That was a very good match is tiger was the best player in the world right now. I after washing this tournament I would say yes. And you're seeing that. You're seeing the fatigue rust after the comeback and after the emotional first victory back after the first major back beginning to where off he understands what what is new body can do. He understands how to position himself for success that the takeaway for me and how he played is he wasn't out of position when he looked out of position. The announcers were smart. Enough to recognizing recognizing on the last hole when he beat answer sixteen he has the correct angle and he has the ability to shape the ball into the hole. This reminds you so much when he was dominant imminent at Augusta national where you're playing to the correct sides to get into position to make birdies and I think if you look at the way. He made comeback par putts with Thomas and by himself. You look at the nerves as to what should go when you're entering your mid forties and he's as steady over that as ever not i-it issue at the broadcast. I really didn't didn't like when it transitioned to Zinger. I thought Justin Leonard did a very good job with the early round coverage they talk about. How Tiger goes into a different zone? When he's focused in implying won't Johny slows down? He blinks slower. And you really saw that in the singles match the singles matches to me were. It's all about a wave of titus to. Where do you have your anchor points? Where you have secured secured points? The international side lost some of those secure points. The answer was sort of a punchers chance. He thought maybe gets the best of A. Maybe he gets a half. And that's going to be the emotional Oceana swing. It was Matt Ziama unable to really secure that full point That just sort of Venus. Yeah yeah well I mean. Tiger answer played great tiger. Didn't miss a PUTT. And on the sixteenth hole when he's going to win the match because his Birdie Putt goes in before it even goes in tigers going for his hat and walk couldn't answer because he know all our he knows it's going to go in. I just thought that based on and only three days I just I think tiger tiger is to be feared again feared again. And there's there is a interesting decision where he chooses to sit himself and this is where Zinger was loud and loud wrong saying when he was very critical decision at that point. This is for the early morning. four-ball in the for the foursome sessions. That afternoon any other coach would have been just attacked. Had he sat the best player and Tiger recognizes. We have a team. We have a system in place to win this. I don't need to go out in this right now and you ended ended up. Seeing the match was odd in that Thomson Fowler couldn't secure the full point even though they were five going into the back nine but that opening match is really what started the comeback and. I think it was necessary for tigers. Sit that so we could see the landscape and then he knew what he had to do in terms of going on getting that first point he knew he was going to put himself in the I. I Love Tiger after after he beats answering singers. Even recognizes to sandy going. Yeah maybe a little early with the hat and taking the hat off but We have to get to the Patrick read situation. I'm GonNa you mentioned the interview. Sands I'm GONNA mention His his other interview with Patrick read where he asks. This is an exhibition. It's a it's a the partnership between the toured the individuals. So there's a lot of trust. There is a fine line all the broadcasters half to walk in terms of their on air criticism of the talent of the players and I actually thought Sandy did a great job giving Patrick read the opening. Saying what have you learned in the last eight to nine days about yourself. What have you learned about golf? Regis bat predictable just totally walks past a going. Yeah just sort of learning how to play golf and and you know you gotta get the lead and take the lead and you're like you had the chance to just to say something that makes you a human diffuses situation. No America was already great. Michael all right get to something of course affects a lot of people sitting in this room. Yes the Georgetown Syracuse Basketball but says Nice. Nice weekend for Georgetown. Well they won. They won handily. Keenum assured on Chris now not keep my shirt on the they were up fifteen most of the second half they won by ten. What did you see the photograph that was circulating sentenced to tone? Yes I one of. My friends found that right before the game. I said I thought that it was possible that those people would would be on the other end of restraining orders by the seems to be going around the Georgetown cameras and I want to bring something up. Well two things one. If they himes kidding it'd make any points in the first-half Circus Might WanNa game. He had twenty five in the second half twenty five points. But here's the question is what not you make of this bay. I'm said Kinjo. This is a big story bay. I'm said of a Kinjo orbital shoot did make anybody better. They're better team without him right now. And why he never heard that. said they lost two games. Because we can go and remember despite my hatred of Syracuse Bay Heim I am in the thompsons. and and therefore ewing or very close. Yes so when behind says that. That's patch hatch. I read that as that is the view of Patrick Ewing. Patrick Ewing can't come out and say to you know you can't do that. No one will ever come to your school again. You bad mouth the transfer but that is Patrick Ewing and if you look back my friends of course did like a deep forensic dive into this when Georgetown lost. UNC Greensboro There was He says we have to stop. Were selfish right now. We have to stop being selfish and that that they have now they were assisting like they're getting assistant like six six six every six baskets or something and now it's way I mean they moved. They look better. They have without Scalpel Oklahoma state on the road. SMU On the Road Syracuse. At home they have seven scholarship players. 'cause they lost two on Friday but that debate come out of nowhere sort of. It's not as though they asked him. Really of incentives and by the way I want right sort of I watched that game They look good. Do you have any comments on the soccer. It's nice. I guess I just wanted to shout out my I friend. Dan Helfferich who played at Georgetown in now announces all that he's like the biggest Boston. DC of Deloitte but he also announces all the Games. He and another guy that I went to that I play basketball against in high school. Guy Named Tom. Green was a great college high school and College Athlete. They call the Radio Games for Jordan and they were there and they sent me a picture of them with the trophy this morning. So I'm just happy for them. My my only feeling about this. They beat Virginia. It's there the national champions of soccer men's soccer I feel. It's it's always sort of unsatisfying when it ends with penalty kicks. I totally agree. No I agree all night. If you have to seventy five especially for the championship. Unsatisfying but thrilling. It's it's an exciting to watch. It went it went past the five rounds still tied all five scored guide and it was in the seventies confess. I did my wife. I'm like going nuts as they win. My wife is the poor guy the UVA guy. And I'm like you'll be wins plant. I mean they've won multiple sock ping chips. Yes yes yes I for Georgetown ties you mentioned I should mention board of boredom. I'M GONNA I wanNA talk about soccer. That Amy Shapiro's Husband Josh who was a soccer coach. Tufts recently won his fourth national champion. How fourth g the three National Championship? You think to yourself somebody out there at a major play because shot atom redskin. Now I don't know I don't know the total work work was one four one four. Go ahead I must be reading this final school from Saturday incorrectly. The Wizards held Memphis to under one hundred and fifty in the still lost lost. The GAME MEMPHIS IS TERRIBLE MEMPHIS. A POWER MEMPHIS is terrible. The Wizards show is terrible. That I'm extremely yeah. The wizards announced seven and seventeen member. The terrible team and the wizards aren't any good wiz. Making a late. Push for that nine in twenty they are now is attainable very much so when you look at their starting frontcourt you go. Who are these people the Himani and Banga? Yeah and I don't know who's the other one is starts in the front court they don't score any points you got arena. Had some other guys. They don't score. Yon Him. Ni Bong twenty million dollars score laser though yeah lapping laser. By the way those of Smith Smith wondering. What the wizards schedule is there at Detroit tonight? Loss home against Chicago Toronto at Philly. Well they're not beating Toronto Philly so they could get those three losses to get to twenty eight and twenty. They got a they got a pissed. Probably beat the Knicks Pistons Bulls to get to nine to have a shot at nine and twenty there. You Go And I know you WanNa you WanNa talk a little bit about the The PELICANS who lost to the magic. aww when the Pelicans made the trade the Anthony Davis Trade Got Josh hard and they got Lonzo ball and they got Ingram there was a an draft Zay on there was a you know. There's a lot of chatter that they were a playoff team rounds. Seven rail seven six seven eight something like that they stink. There's six hundred seventeen and I grant you that Zion Williamson has not played any games but if you six twenty one twenty six and twenty one. Wow If you think that Zion Williamson by himself a rookie in a league is going to walk in there and reverse that you're nuts. You're nuts agenda doesn't doesn't work that way kit. Can we conclude at this point. I know you're hesitant to conclude this before. That Lonzo ball is not not. I don't think he's very good. He was plus minus. I know you know it depends on the court minus twenty two. Now he does not start. He played twenty seven minutes nine points. Yeah not not a number two pick. Good no you're not the worst team in a league. What else that's it? That's our news fence on news. We'll take a break and we will. I love when Edwards run goes good ideas tanks tigers. I love that So we will come back and we'll do the old guy. We'll talk about the redskins and we'll talk about a couple of other things that have occurred to me I'm Tony Kornheiser. This is the Tony Kornheiser show. I want to take a second to tell you about the city. Business Advantage Platinum select card. This card is perfect for any small business owner. Especially if you love to travel with this card all of your business expenses this is can turn into advantage miles that you can use towards your next adventure. How awesome is that racking up? Miles is so easy because you can earn on every purchase. Plus you get two times the miles gas stations on car rentals and on select cable and phone bills. 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I thought I was the singing. Dogs was wrong. It is terrible but it's not terrible but I just this is you know the referring with and I guess Yoko singing is well. War is over if at so it's it's it's just a beautifully beautifully produced song and I like it whereas I don't really you know I'm used to the little drummer. I'm used to all of those songs. Their Mind Kristie. I recommend instincts. Merry Christmas happy holidays to you. Nigel's favourite is baby. It's cold outside he really endorses. That that Phil Spector produced. That Phil Spector who's no longer produce and that's that was part of a relationship with Lennon because they use them for the let it be album and did some stuff with Linin afterward. I don't think anybody would say the Phil Spector was not a brilliant producer of museum mendes. He's also a murderer. Questionable exclusive all right. So let me get to a couple of things one and this is very very localized so that sands POWs in in Melbourne dismay not affect their your lives as directly as it will affect my life. The friendship heights giant which was remodeled. Maybe fifteen to twenty years ago here in in the same space but remodelled. I've never I've never really understood what happened. They are because the remodeling didn't make any sense to intake but giant has been. That's been an anchor of this particular Complex of stores. It's right on the corner of Western Wisconsin. It's in the same shopping center. It is the lead dog in the shopping center where clydes of Chevy Chase's that China's going out of business. Why dawn really he said as your bucks going out of business? Yes they said affect they said that the rent is too hard. The Renton run now to me. When Your supermarket you negotiate the following way? You say we're going to draw every single person you've got. They're all coming here. Because the bus your other stores will exist because of US center is no rent there is no rent. We're not paying any rent. Because we are the beacon for this particular com. That was the chatter went. Went ten learner. You Ain't win supermarkets withdraw now. I know there's a whole foods Two blocks away two blocks away but whole foods is not giant it draws a different type of person is a safeway three quarters of a mile away. The refugee the refugee Safeway. Yeah but in myrlie refugees refugees saved the on Connecticut. That's that's the next big road over just have operated so. I am surprised. Shocker I I wanted to go in there. Another another thing would be another superman but yes I would. They pay the rent if if giant feels like they can't justify it giant giant supermarkets. Don't do this all the one change that I don't think you're recognizing. Is that down Wisconsin Avenue again. This is super local. They just redid the Cathedral Commons giant. Right which is probably taking some of the business from that. This this giant question is very small and you also sparked John. You're under the westbound for giants about three miles up the giant Down down the street. You're driving past the friendship Pike's giant to go to the Cathedral. Giant actually are so nicer. It's a beautiful. Your comments is is way nicer as beer and wine. This one this one is never been well stocked. You also have a new player entering. I think in a year or two right across the street from Sidwell's Wegmans is going to change the way Tim Sidwell in Melbourne again. Actually to your point so I don't know how giants our own I but I I. I assume it's corporately. Not like franchise while so maybe they're doing the calculus insane officially closes that's going to you know a bunch of that business will be siphoned off for others. There's in the area you know there'll be some that wagner that's GonNa shake it up now beyond build the supermarket world this complex I would call it a glorified strip mall. When I was a kid it was just a strip mall? It's changing every year. Full stationery store. There's no such thing is that is that is that where the diner is right there on that same mm strip diner. No mom I must be thinking further north. The one right here this discharge comm comments but this old the US to have a cut through with the quarter means coffee the bakery and the bass line is and that's when that's when it actually drove out. If you have a supermarket the supermarket goes out and it is replaced just for argument's sake with a tire store or you know or or an appliance source of something that you need. Whatever you're you're saying all of those stores that were on the back end of the giant? There's a you know a confectionary store. There's a pizza place place. There's something else they're dead. They're dead because supermarket. The supermarkets draw. Would you be okay. If a trader Joe's came into in which has a smaller difference right down the street. There's a trader Joe's within a Mile Yup and that's right so in the O.. Town where I know you frequent you went to the town only just over you into the office bar and Grill and Layton weeks ago there was Melissa Mullane. She got what you need is that there was a very. I actually have heard from Melissa. s something she wants to bring by for you but she said she can't till nine fifteen days it's going to be get up earlier. There was a giant. There was an old giant that moved into a vacated shoppers food space to make a very nice new giant and in the old giant to your point is a huge opening soon. Jim and I mean this is a huge huge gym. That doesn't drive shopping. Traffic People in like a supermarket standard. They moved into a strip from a freestanding. Wanted to fascinating stuff to me. Welcome Australia but you don't. You don't see supermarkets go out of business a lot. I mean it's like a McDonald's or a starbucks they usually grow go out of business. They're not renewing their lease it. It is it is a reminder that we have a bounty of supermarkets in this pocket of the city which we should be grateful. I wanted to just briefly. I'd almost without comment. I am so confused. The story that has exploded around the army navy game with the white power hand signals to me. He just sort of look like okay. There is apparently in the story I read there are databanks that record what are signals rose. What are what are out there? Were I guess. White groups are black groups around groups or whatever and I sit here I have no idea I've have no I know it's A. I'm an hour Saturday now. Afraid to use my hands or in any way. 'cause I don't know what I should law singling anymore. There were words that I have used that people won't say them on the air that people at the PTI who are in the twenties and thirties recoil from in horror. And I go. It's a real word. What is the problem here? Is it hard hard work. You're not allowed to do that. You're not allowed to say things you know I get. I'm I'm a little too old for that. That was that's what they we're doing. No tone. I mean that's a known thing they knew. Ron Camera is reese Davis was in the they knew their on camera that was purposes. They were putting their an okay. Sign is like up high. Right with your FA- I mean. Obviously only a new. Can you see this with your fingers pointing up to the sky. They they were doing it upside down. It's purposeful came up with that. We can look it up. You know what I mean. Long time zone white supremacists this white and these people are in service academies at least yeah. It's I mean I don't know that you say I mean they're on camera to Gary Point era who they are going to have to be some discipline. I would imagine now. Maybe there's Oh here's the story in their times when okay sign is low longer okay interesting. Yeah there's some there's there is some argument that there may be plausible deniability kids you know. Typically that's what I think. I think the gesture itself can be like. Oh no I didn't know it was right trying to give you enough wiggle room to make gestures with your hands ends frequently when you don't know precisely what you know what I mean. It reminds me of time that spike came home and maybe he was in sixth or seventh grade or maybe even younger her and referred to something as a do chip bag do chip bag was term. That was the German and I said you know like what does that mean. Where'd you hear? And of course he had heard it from some kid at school and I asked him what it meant and he didn't know and I made him look it up in a dictionary and then I described it to him in detail which was very confusing and upsetting China and the lesson was you. Don't use words if you don't know exactly what they mean and I would say the same hand signals. So this is I got one hand signal that I use case Luebeck Obama. You know what that is so this is interesting it is not it is the Internet is the worst by the this is according to types. It started in early twenty seventeen as a hoax. Some users of four Chan anonymous unrestricted online message board began what they called Operation O. K. K. K. to see if they could trick the wider world and especially liberals in the mainstream media into believing that the innocuous Cheshire was actually clandestine symbol of white power. The four Chan hoax a hoax neo Nazis Ku Klux Klan. Another white but national news gesture in public to signal their presence and to spot potential sympathizers and recruits. I don't think I remember. I remember when the Maggiano's thing happened and people we're talking about the old right movement Tila Tequila and they said well. Yeah right dope on what they talked about how. A favourite of the alt-right movement was new balance sneakers. I wear new balance I liked me and are now members of yeah. I'm not a member and I'm not dumping those sneakers because they're wearing a very comfortably. I'm not GonNa do that so at some point at some point to sensitivities overwhelm you and in your desire to walk the correct path. You have to. You're putting one foot very very gingerly in front of the other because you don't know what you're doing you don't you let me get to the redskins and Urban Meyer. There was when I was when I did have that game on. Whoever was doing the game talked about how Bill Callahan was really professional coach? And and I think the Redskins were winning at this point and how how he should be a candidate to get the job and I wanted to throw my foot at the screen. He's not he's not getting the job. Okay he's not. There's zero chance he's getting the job but bourbon. Meyer was in the box. Urban Meyer was in the box and we talked with wilpon about it but we haven't talked about it amongst ourselves. What thoughts on urban Meyer Well to clarify nice coverage by Josh Norman when he finally got in great job terror. That guy was a quarterback in College Harry McLaren Clark Terry maclaurin who's rookie from Ohio. State plays favorites as well as As well as of course Wayne Haskins. Who's been one of the term McLaren one one of the very few bright spots for the redskins? This season has a fifty plus catch eight hundred. Something Yard handful of touchdown season. Yeah said after the game specifically typically that urban was his guest and in the box because he had an vitamin he was there to support he and Wayne Haskins and of course he coached Alex Smith and in college and spend time with them The Urban Meyer to me sounds like the exact kind of higher that that Daniel Snyder would would pick and Daniel Snyder's And his his love of Dwayne Haskins has been reported. Dwayne Haskins reportedly was his pick against the head coaches will. So I mean it's just it's just it would be the most red skins thing ever I don't know why Urban Meyer frankly or anyone would take that job now. They'RE GONNA get a head coach and I guess you could pay or urban Meyer a ton of money But if Urban Meyer talked to other people who had taken that money I don't don't know if they would tell him it was worth it I mean do you think Mike Shanahan's glad he took the money. Do you think Jay Gruden glad he took the money. I don't know So what I like to see. Urban Meyer would make it would make insurance it. Let me say as someone who has claimed to and I'm struggling with actually doing but someone who has claimed to have gotten off of the Redskins Bandwagon. This season might get you back. It would get my attention would get my attention. which is which is why? I think it's the type of thing he would do. That's that's what I was just GonNa say I mean you have a we. We talked about this but the it was was it. Two thirds eagles fans history gear. Worse I I mean I I would. I mean they're overwhelmed overwhelming. So you have a hugely demoralized fan base right. No one the energy around on the team for the last few years has been really down. You need to do something I I think. People are interested in Dwayne Haskins but Dwayne Haskins is not like if you drafted borough. I mean. They're not going to. But if he drafted borough or two or something like that so you need to do something a coach is. I don't think there's more than about five to eight eight coaches that would really get the fan base back interested at least give it a second look and I think he's one of them. Now let me just say this there. If there was someone who was going to look at Dwayne Haskins and think I can win with this guy you would think that would be urban. Meyer him over. Joe Joe Borough which so let you pick them over that what that is history. We fired coach. I guess six years years or five years after being hired to quote win with this guy because this is going to be the guy and that did not go on it. Essentially just set the team back doc. Essentially half a decade while they tried to figure out what to do so Gosh I don't do you see. Urban Meyer is the guy who want to make the leap Gary. Have you ever shared the advice. That Dad gave you about a certain Radio Job Contra Publica- I'll just move past that we've seen this iteration a a number of times as to get the right coach for the right team right now. It never seems to work. Will it bring back certain fans to the fan base. Sure but the first question and may be to say this with with a with a knowing grin how many years how many dollars just because this free week to week year to year league this is not going to be a one or two season Turner on even if you think Haskins is the guy he can win with and at that point. How many times have we seen four or five years any then realize it's not working I wasn't I will? I'm not getting as much freedom as I. I thought I was so at least I'm going to cash the check. They're going to get the fan base back. There's GONNA be some bigger changes in the front office and just bringing in a name does is Bruce. Stay I mean that's the other thing is is does does bringing in someone like urban. Meyer Move Bruce. Out is that a precondition of it happening Dan and go along with Urban Meyer. And you want me. I tell you what we know rent. Okay right I tell you. There's no rent on this. I I tell you that I have all the power and every and and if you don't WanNa do that Viacom Diaz and I'll go somewhere else. I won't go anywhere. Doesn't need the money with Michael. Everybody does have some level of price. But he doesn't he. Is there a guy like urban Meyer. There are legacy considerations. Alice Dallas Sousse. Yeah Dallas is going to want I will just say this is the lone Ohio state fan in Ohio state if he were to return to coaching so soon after he said he had to step down for health reasons. He's a four year cooked. Yeah it would be very disappointing to me that he would go back to the ranks of coaching me. Like you said that if you did that you were going to die you know so stale. He is GonNa die when we all will but seemed like that was his main concern rather than now especially because back to the Redskins redskins but that would be better as a state Ohio state fan then seeing him. Go back to college somewhere for you. There's no expectation of winning here so it could be a good choice all all right. We'll get OUTTA here. We'll come back with email jingle. I'm Tony Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony. Kornheiser show Tremendous bagpiper covered on the Bagpipe. Donald mcphee Scotland in Scotland. Zach place you'd want Bagpipers Bobby Australia Israeli. What Close enough to the mail bag. We'll bond for coming on the show today. I'd also like to thank our sponsors simply. Safe's were off ski and Citibank. Remember to listen and subscribe to an archived episodes. Tony Kornheiser show wherever you listen to podcasts including apple podcast. spotify Google play radio DOT COM. If you listened to show to I tunes. Please leave Sir. Review from Bob. 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Week 12 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, Die Hard Decisions - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/24

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Week 12 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, Die Hard Decisions - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/24

"It is our robinson into fantasy. Football car care well to the fantasy footballers podcast with your hose. Andy holloway jason moore and mike reid. Welcome in tuesday november. Twenty four th. Mike reid jason. More andy holloway. The fantasy footballers back with you for a waiver. Show excited to have you join us. Thank you so much for supporting the show. Subscribing reviewing all of our faithful over at joined the foot dot com. Thank you for your support It is Your support and join the foot dot com that allows us to then pay brooks and he can then use that money to do things like pick up coffee for us more I guess any anything we need so we appreciate it yeah. The foot washing is superb. He washes your feet. The he's he. Yeah you don't have the you've never gotten a brooks foot massage all man. You're missing out. I have not reflexologist. Yes right he. We put him through school. Yeah thank you again for that support But yeah we put him through reflexologist school now. He is certified well. This is breaking news working on acupuncture. That's also we're just keeping it going. He's in a constant stream of learning things. Yeah by the end. He will be a fully well rounded holistic healer. Which we are in need. Not a lotta can do that. And so you know you'll be able to break out on your own eventually Wants this down learning a lot here. Learning a lot twitter at the f. f. ballers if you wanna check us out on social media the fantasy football dot com the website. Tomorrow is the magazine. Joe who who who who. Mike was more musical. I liked it. Jason was equal as frightening is ever tomorrow. Show it's kind of a badge of honor you make it through the mega don We normally talk something away at the end of that show. Maybe maybe we hide it in the middle this time who knows or like the very beginning. you're going to have to listen to whole thing. Maybe we change it. Maybe we tell you some in the middle and then maybe. I don't know let's react to this monday night football game. The rams very twenty-seven tampa bay twenty four. I have some fantasy related thoughts. But i will share a wonderful narrative that we were following along everything about last night. Now jason excluded from. Maybe this overarching point for last night. Was what makes fantasy football great. You have this matchup. And we were all watching with bated breath because jason went into this game facing albore linda and he was trailing by just five points. I mean all. I needed was five points. I had tom brady. He had leonard fournette. That should be like a hundred percent. I mean and honestly to be fair in the first quarter. I took the lead so it should have been over but tom brady had other plans. Lynn format had other plans including dropping a few passes that if i think he caught those. You would have been in trouble but jason. You made it out on top tom. Brady's final touchdown to to mr godwin ended up being the difference maker but it was exciting. It was fun and it was a weird game because there was no rushing attack from tampa bay. Tom brady was at times as bad as you've ever seen him yet. Still tied the gema with a couple of minutes to play a few minutes to play and had a chance to win it. But i think we walked away saying well. I think you made this point last night. Jason when tom brady is facing a pass rush when you can hit him a few times which has been true for a lot of his Recent years but even more this year if you hit him he gets skittish gets in trouble. He makes some throws. He's he's keeping it short and cost the line of scrimmage. He can't connect on a deep ball. Right now oh he see his deep ball is terrible and and it's certainly one of those things where in future matchups for fantasy. If you're looking at window get the good. Tom brady window. I get the bad time because there will be more. Good tom brady. It's not gonna all be what we saw against the saints. What we saw against the rams last night. Just look at that pass rush. Are they able to generate a heavy pass rush with four people. That's tom's kryptonite has been for years but right now it's destroying him and you wanna you wanna pivot away in the end. He ended up with twenty points and a six point passing game so no fourteen but now quarantine and a four point. Sorry fourteen and a four point So you were close. I was accurate. I specified six point. Yeah okay yeah. How many points did he have an six point. Well i mean the ad like twenty two hours. He was the number one quarterback last week so they. That's what you're talking about. The the variance from. Tom brady the week before that he was thirtieth week before that he was ninth and then third so like you stated it was Week fourteen playoff week. One minnesota okay. Well they're gonna blitz. mike zimmer is going to blitz but not a great secondary atlanta the week after. they've struggled. Yeah they won't get a pass rush on. No that's a great man in championship. Great matchup so I guess week fourteen would be the only one you kind of looking sideways at. But even then now you're you're probably just playing him so in kansas city next week. It's just. It was tough to watch at times. It's also tough to kind of see through the mist at the pass catchers because there's a lot of them in tampa bay antonio brown has been frequently targetted and while godwin got into the end zone. Is he mentally. Downgraded in your minds in terms of What he represents of season are you guys comfortable with all three. And what is your thoughts. I feel like what happened with. Godwin is godwin. Became you know. Seventy five percent of what he was and then duplicated himself With antonio brown they really play a very similar roles as far as you know the read and the offense The quick getting the ball out quick The difference is antonio brown. Does take a few shots down. The field godwin doesn't really ever go down the field. But that's irrelevant. Because tom brady can't hit anybody down the field right now. Yeah waiting for them to connect on one. The target share has swung too antonio brown as well in the last three games. So you since. Tony brown has been there. He seeing twenty one percent of the targets. Compared to chris godwin seeing eighteen percents already does seem comfortable throwing to him in the short areas. Just as much as godwin on the other side. It was a Extravaganza for cooper kupp robert woods. They combined for twenty three receptions in saint a very similar games woods got into the end zone fifteen targets for was thirteen for cup. Seem like all of cups were in the first half. Almost he just had a monster. I have neither team ran the football. I mean forty. Two total rushing yards for tampa. Thirty seven for the run happy. Rams here's jared goff's three seventy six three castor. Everybody fade into your thanks. Jared so you know cottonwoods you can play every week kind of a you saw some more van jefferson in this game. We saw josh reynolds not a lot of targets. Titans targets. yeah. Yeah this is what i would say about. The running game is this was clearly Especially when you when you watch the beginning of the game. This was by design. Tampa bay is phenomenal against the run. They are you know at the at the tippy top of the league and the ram said. Well we're not gonna. We're not gonna struggle in that we're going to beat them with the passing game and so if if they you know have a game against Another super rush defense. Maybe you'll see more passing any other takeaways. Mike understood it was. It was a great game and it was fantastic to see both cup and woods. Finally when i mean how many match ups came out of the depths of despair last night. If you started robert woods or cooper kupp. I think our own album needed Like thirty five points from robber woods in an important money leaks. And what did you get out of that. I needed thirty four and ended up getting thirty point six own. Man wanna lose her. that's too bad. i'm sorry for all right. news notes. News and notes from around the league. Also mike evans is. He's a man why he saw antonio brown play and he's like i can do that as a man that yes thank you. Oh you craft ahead touchdown. I think he was just so just up. Vs play where jalen ramsey manhandled him. He's like you're not jalen ramsey. Get off me. That was incredible wide receivers. There are some that are just unfair out there. Face these little five ten. Db's gimme a break. All right adam feelings been placed on the reserve covid list. He could still be cleared in time for the sunday game against the panthers if he is positive we don't know if he's a close contacts so prepare to be without him but hopefully you will have him mark ingram and jk dobbins have both been put on the covid list this is. They are positive This was released the deal too because the game is thursday. Yeah they're out and they're out. So you're looking at gus edwards and justice hill against the steelers defense on thanksgiving. What kind of You have the quick reaction right. You hear these guys are out and we've said well look if with one guy he's got the backfield what should be gus You're gonna play him I guess. I'm curious where you will slot him in this week or where. You're thinking i. I think he's going to be more of a flex option. I don't. I don't put gus edwards in as an rb two originally. I was very excited. I just i deleted justice hill from my memory but it will be a two man show there. This is a very difficult ron defense. So he will get enough volume to be someone that you could start if you know if you were relying on a player that's not there and you need another starter. I think gus edwards was fine but his upside is probably kept because if he doesn't get in the end zone and this is a very difficult. You know matchup. Then he's just going to be a you know you're open for ten twelve fantasy. I think i think the part about it. And i'll ask you a couple of cops is. This is a waiver. Show so obviously gus. Edwards is on that list. But this is the time of year where your budget matters to. So if you had a player like kaelin balaj for example that you invested in and you can start this week. against buffalo. Are you then avoiding spinning up on edwards in that situation. Yeah if. I don't need to start gus edwards this week. If i've got another player on my team that's better. I'm i'm probably putting in a very cheap bid. if you're in a fab system see a couple of dollars just to have you know running back depth always always try to grab the running backs that are going to get the ball but Because this could be a multi. We'll be absence. And that's what i wanted to highlight is. This could be multi week because the the news that was released was that they're both positive we don't know. Are they. ace into matic. I mean we hope these guys are okay for moving forward for football. We don't know when they will be back. Gus edwards will be the guy and just a reminder. They have played pittsburgh already and in that matchup. Jk dobbins was fifteen for one hundred thirteen yards. and gus edwards was sixteen. Eighty seven and a touchdown. So it's not like. It's impossible that gus edwards goes out there and has a great game. He's going to have volume heat. He should see you should easily see more than fifteen carries. He will see goal line work if they get there so he is. I'm much more bullish than jason that i get it. You don't need gus edwards for the long haul. Maybe you don't wanna blow your number one priority on him but he is a priority at this week especially in this waiver wire. Yeah we'll talk. It's not the best talk more about normal. Earning back options normal expectation for you know. Just look at the timeline for positive cova tests. It's not a guarantee but they should miss two weeks and so then you know the following week. I believe is the cowboys. The that's great matchups for the ravens after this week through the fantasy playoffs. It's it's game on for everybody. Alright tasty except for hollywood brown us game. They had a game off for hollywood nice. Yeah tastes them. Hill as expected no longer tied in eligible on espn platform. He is a quarterback so still relevant for fantasy football very Just not a tight end matt. Rhule's said he's considering christian. Mccaffrey week to week. it's not it's almost. Certainly he's not plan. Yeah they have a bi week next week so he also hates your fancy team. 'cause christian mccaffrey has gone from out to doubtful. Which means he's sitting on your. I are any as you. You can't make a waiver move. All right Julio jones game time decision likely this week against the raiders. He is going to haunt The the playoff aspirations of certain teams. Right now yeah. Is there if he's in if he's active. You're playing yeah Okay but with that face Okay matt nagy said The team is still evaluating the status of both foles in trubisky. So right now. It's like three potential options at quarterback against the packers for week twelve. It could be folds trubisky or off the street to be honest. I mean they could bring somebody else in. I mean the truth is it's a relevant. You're not playing any one of those three. Yeah but it's not a relevant to allen robinson. Managers is not a relevant to even david montgomery managers if you returns a it just makes it a little scary in the because the packers are pretty good against wide receivers to begin with so Is there one that you prefer for mr robinson. Because maybe it doesn't matter niners. I still would prefer foles. But i'm gonna play alan robinson no matter what. And i'm gonna be a play on robinson or antonio brown okay so no matter what i'm gonna play him. I is a A playable asset and fantasy for sure. All right this episode of the fantasy football is brought to you by head and shoulders available at walmart You guys know about are taking to one hundred segment where we pick are taking it up to one hundred players each and every week last week in case. You're curious mr moore back or more got a big win. Brandin cooks one hundred in a big way. Mike had the miami defense. I don't remember exactly where they not. There was To really let the team down. Yeah yeah and then. I had mike davis. 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I remember we did the health We had to do the health insurance stuff here and and we had the nurse calm and i remember you were like it's like you need to prepare pacing. He's picking up. Do the funniest thing is right. When they're putting the needle in and get me prepared. I am i'm like you know. What my my offhand. Whatever arm they're not doing griffin something and i'm trying to be calm and trying to not look so stupid but i look awful but have the salts ready. Yeah oh the smelling salts. Yeah yeah the might be necessary. Sixteen games who lost. Start to the week right. Plus taking up. To one hundred kicker kicker plus ballers picks anybody ever fallen asleep. Mid boom kicker you got the stamina to get through the whole rhyme. I will i will. I will push through. Okay drop candidates at the wide receiver position. We'll turn their. I find some wide receiver options for. Yeah probably like it's hot. You buy or sell everything. Everything's on this for our this. All right hollywood brown goodbye and if you want to make it more cathartic you can you know you can do a countdown. You can fire off some fireworks into the air when you let go whatever you need to do in the punt off the bridge moment. Let him go rough. Release him. However you please tee higgins tyler boyd. What do you do with them. I don't you know tyler boyd. I'm not dropping either of these guys yet i get. The downgrade to the quarterback is massive going from burrow down to ryan finley for the cincinnati. Bengals that offensive line is real bad. joe burrow was able to overcome some things. Because he's a very good quarterback. But both higgins and tyler boyd are also talented wide receivers. So i'm not dropping them just yet. I would definitely drop these next two guys ahead of them. Which would be travis forego and justice landry Disappointing from a performance from fogo a couple of weeks in a row. I don't know how much is his fault or he was just. He was just taking advantage of a target share opportunity during the time. When god it wasn't there wasn't there and reagan. Wasn't there yeah. It's really confusing. Because now you've got some of the other pass catching options healthy and all of a sudden. You feel like it coincides when reagan gets back on the field all of a sudden fogleman's not relevant but then if you actually look at had five and seven targets. He saw twenty percent of the target. Love is cleveland. so he's still getting targeted rainy game. Yeah so i you know. It's one of those. Where if there is a better option and you feel more confident playing them. Sure drop them but you know if you want to wait and see because he did indies talked about it a lot. He passed the eyeball test. Full looked like a good wide receiver and he is still getting the targets. They're just unfortunately still from cars. Plays seattle travis. Welcome in the eagles are playing seattle. So that's what. I'm not gonna drop fulcrum. Okay that's that's a plus matchup. I'm not dropping full. It's a trap. One of the two for. I don't know seattle has had the entire season to be a trap and whatnot but Deandre hopkins just put up one of his worst games of the year against the seattle seahawks de that is fair. His quarterback also hurt his shoulder on the third play of the game. But carson winston fulcrums quarterback. He hurt his third. Play of the convince me that there's worse quarterback situation elsewhere one hundred percent. Healthy carson wentz. Yeah is not as good as a loved. The beard injury we learn of the beard forgot all right. It is interesting though because the wide receiver waiver options. I'm not that excited across the board. There's nobody that. I'm going out minus. Maybe one name that. I'm going out to fight for on the waiver. Wire okay and that would be michael pittman because pittman as he had another nice week only three targets. But they've figured out what to do with him and that is to let him be an athlete they put him in Crossers they give them the opportunity to turn on the jets. I imagine red zone. Opportunities will come his way in the screen game. Not a lot of downfield stuff. But he is produced. And he's out there for eighty percent of snaps. He has the invisible upside of a rookie. That was drafted with high draft capital. So michael is at the top of my personal list. I think he would be the the number one on my list as well. He's got tennessee. And houston as the next two match. The fantasy playoffs vegas and then houston again You know so i. I think he's someone that after back to back games he's heating up and if you wanna get in that fire now's the time he is probably my number one but i have a hard time deciding between these two guys. Michael peyman It's you know. I love me. Some michael pittman but nelson galore. Las vegas raiders. He has had a quite a handful here of good games. Five deep touchdowns that is tied with tyreek hill for the most in the nfl. I saw a very funny tweet from good friend of the show. Jj zac riessen. Who said maybe maybe problem was carson wentz. Yeah which i chuckled at. Because you're here for all parts and winds trash-talk. I look it because let's get to the psychology of i've never fully supported carson wentz. And you're feeling pretty i want i don't want to fail. This is just like a maija situation. Just percent i. I i see the good but i also see the bet anyways so nelson angler atlanta. This week they're nice. Absolutely the new york jets the following week. They're not absolutely so. That's why it's tough for me to decide between pittman and agar. I agree. That was the. That was the second name i was going to bring up so i completely agree with it. It's it's hard. Because he has been somewhat touchdown reliant but at the same time. He's given us out almost every time he goes out there lately. you know. He's got a touchdown in six games. Right now why with him. You needed to see a lay of the land with where derek carr wanted to throw the football. You didn't know after one breakout game. If it was anomalous rugs would start to get all the deep targets. Look aguilar's becoming more trusted over the course of the year not not less trusted. So isn't he's not a guarantee by any means because he says nelson agholor. I'm just saying of the of his last five games to were top ten performances and two were catastrophic including goose egg and a game of one. I think we're on the same page here. And and he's a little bit more available than pitman. I would probably put similar lower fab on both and just see who i ended up with and and be content with that. There's there's two plays after them. That are my next to you. Guys can agree or disagree. It'll be tim patrick. Yeah man and jalen rager. I mean we didn't patrick's the ballers just good. I mean he he is. I look i have had jerry jeudy on my roster in the league of record the just the whole season i drafted him. I've got him and been disappointed almost every week and i wish i had tim patrick because he actually goes out. There and catches passes gets yards. And you know this last week. You're stuck yeah five for one hundred nineteen and he's getting it done You know so i. I do think he's a name that he's widely available. You're not going to have to spend anything for him and if you need someone that just he's not just a matchup. Plays kinda like you. You plug them in every week. If you need just to fill you know some some low end point. He's kind of a player that your opponents sees on on your roster and they kind of chuckle and what. Jim patrick i get to play tim patrick back. Then he drops a honda. Yeah fourth most receptions of twenty plus yards and this is with missing time right. He was injured so. I don't mind that you're not gonna have to spend almost anything on. I'd be surprised if you had to spend much on it at all and then pursued perryman. If joe the quarterback you always have two or three shots at game downfield perryman has been good at coming up with those plays on every snap so interesting enough As a deep option. And then you bring up. Deebo seamless tough because depot is. He's got two things that three things really that. Make me uncomfortable. The first one is he's got to play the rams this week. Sure the second one is. He's coming off injury which reinjuring has happened to him multiple times and the third one. Is you know you have a backup quarterback. Now mullins is fine. But he does crumble. And if i was going to crumble like my own personal opinion i would do it when aaron donald donald was in my face. So and if you're not gonna pick up and play playing this week you're at the end of the season. I just not sure what the value is. I like the other guys more because you can pick them up and you can get immediate impact. I'm still in on stashing deebo Do what is brandon uk's status. Because he was he was added to the covid. Li i think at this point we could say that. Are you tested positive. 'cause he has been with was this is second time on the list he was close contact connection and then he got up at work on board one and then he got put back on. George kittle is not there we if you is out then diva who is still questionable. We don't we aren't posited that he's going to be back you just. You're projecting to be back. He's going to see a lot of all you. Yeah i i agree. He is and that'd be good against buffalo but again if i he's going to see a lot of jalen ramsey it's different though because this is they don't is not always asked to go run a nine route. You know run a post. It's they manufactured the touch and then try for a yard. After catch i would i would rather go after. Jalen rager against seattle then deebo and then not to be forgotten allen. Lazard is on his way. Back his out there Four targets in this past week but does indianapolis and he was on a pitch count. And you know you get towards the fantasy playoffs. Detroit carolina tennessee. That's the playoffs. The playoffs schedule is great. But he's not. Someone could play this week so you need to just look at your situation and say am i. Am i picking up playoff stash. Or do i need a wide receiver if you need a wide receiver. Now's not the time not against chicago. He's still working his way back. But i do agree in the playoffs star asset. all right. let's look at the running back position. Gus edwards is the main waiver cup of the week You guys really colored that in earlier in the show but You know if if for some reason these guys are out more than a couple of weeks. He's a pretty good schedule. Gus is also pretty good runner. And he's taken advantage of his opportunities yet. Doric player so You brought up. What what the Running back state against pittsburgh earlier in the year. Would you let duke johnson. just go. I mean david. Johnson is out another week man. Yeah is it that that one is tough. Because he's the main guy he gets most of the work he's producing absolutely nothing is he. Is he a landmine that you. He's you said a booby trap on the waiver wire because if i just i'm trying to react if i if i saw duke johnson the waiver wire tomorrow you know waivers clear. Drop like titles duke johnson's there. I'm going oh man. I hope no one has seen that do johnson is there. Because i'm going to pick him up. And i might be the wrong. Play jay where you will do johnson. I'm not dropping duke johnson. Now if i had to have a start this week. And i'm saying who would you rather start do johnson or gus edwards said. Maybe maybe then if that's my last roster spot but usually i'm dropping you know a backup wide receiver versus someone that is a starting running back and also you got to keep in. Mind this matchup for duke johnson. This last week was against the patriots. And this matchup against the detroit lions. So i think do johnson is in play Drop darrell henderson cam. Akers malcolm brown mass going on you. Want any of those guys is still darrell henderson. It's it yeah. I think it is but that's i'm not. I'm not going on them. Not spending priority to get those guys. Damian harris was eleven for forty three and a touchdown last week. Only thirty eight percent of snaps. I mean if he's if he's out there. I'd like to pick them up. You have question marks with damian harris of is sony. michelle going to be activated. Are they gonna flip flop back to zoning michelle. I would rather pick up. If we're talking. Now i'd rather pick up daming harris but james wight needs to be picked up. James white is a priority. Add this week. And he's available more than half of leagues rex. Burkhead had taken james white's job basically as the passing downs guy but rexburg. It's probably up with an acl. So james white will take his his job back. And i think he had like twenty percent of the targets from the number and in addition for james white being a good play with rex burkhead alley three percent of the targets. Last week this matchup this week against arizona cardinals who are among the league leaders in points scored so if they're putting points on the board then that's the you know you wonder if he's game script proof i don't i don't know james white is but if if this is a higher scoring game then that is where you can play james why. The cardinals have a strict policy where they don't cover the flats. They don't see them. It's been a long standing arizona cardinals. Cliff thinks there's a gentlemen's agreement. Right that i don't cover it. You don't play only in between the numbers. Yes and then the teams don't and then they they. They have a lot of success cheating. Good point all right so but there. There's a player i want. Okay jason A player i want to get to. Let's see if it's the same one over the last four weeks. This player has been the running back. Fourteen the runningback. Sixteen the running back six running back ten. He is the rb. Three in total points is the rb five and fantasy points per game during that span. Wait what and he's on. The wire is on the on the wire. And oh oh. It's bruce wayne bruce wayne in baby. Yeah because wayne goldman has been on fire. Yes and he's playing cincinnati. He's coming off the bye. He's he's playing against the bengals. That's a plus matchup. He's playing against a team. That has no quarterback and the giants. The giants are favored. The line the last. I had heard it was. The giants are favored by four and over. Unders like forty two points so they are expecting nothing from the cincinnati bengals. And that's gonna turn into wayne gaughman carrying the ball a lot. Now do we have any update on. Devante freeman is free so you will still miss this week. Wayne glide rather play. Wayne goldman this week. I think i would play. I think i'd rather play in than gus had every single name. We've brought up. I if i had them all on my roster i would i would play wayne. Gaughman he is. I think the best play because he's been getting it done and the matchup is good favored. I mean you. You can't ask for much more than that. The thing that's been so annoying about that situation is that wayne. Gaughman is every bit as good if not better than devante freeman is. He's better but because of the saquon barkley injury. They felt the need to go out and invest money in a name. And you watch gohmert and he plays with a you. Know a fire on every restress. He's got a heart. Bruce wayne so edwards are gaughman. Where do you decide on that one. Oh my goodness that is talk. Almond got dropped by a lot of people due to the bye week so he. He's out there. In a lot of leaks he's only roster and thirty percent of espn fifty four percent of yahoo. We've run up My magical drop powers on the on the main podcast. We talked about it on the foot cast. I had incredible success of bestowing magic powers on players. Right after i dropped. You dropped pittman. Thank you. I was able to scare him and he was great. But on the list of guys who i have recently dropped gus edwards wayne gomes. Oh so that's the both are going to be great. I've i've got. I've got to dig into this for a moment is somehow in the matter of like one minute you both use the word brockton the you both did you brought it up and i almost said something in and then you said broughton. So i'm like am i take drugs here. I'm like this is not a word right so i look it up on me. Broaden eye looked it up and the definition of the word brought is this sub-standard past tense of bring. Yes it's a sub-standard word. Which is a perfect. I mean that's fine. That's a word that's a word words word. I heard it twice in one by one point. Yeah but i want you brought in the fire guys brought in the fire. Oh my gosh. Yeah i just expecting it to come up with a big acts of no word and it. Just no no. We're cool with it. It's your sub-standard things dump people say standard uneducated version of. Oh my gosh well. I i guess they stand. I didn't even hear myself. Say i was so i heard myself say and i and i just assumed i would be jumped all over. I wasn't so i continued and then right after that. You said unbelievable. I must be ordered to get this one in. I have one more running back. Yes that i think is a good play this week. He's a little bit older. All my guess franklin franklin yes eleanor gore outscores about. I mean look he. The microbrewery ryan has the high ankle. Sprain frank gore will get at least fifteen carries a hits. The miami dolphins coach loves him like he does. Adam caseloads frank gore then. He loves his own children. Oh at this point. Yeah i mean you can't find find someone who loves you the way adam gates loves free. Didn't get a high ankle. Sprain frank gore. That's right the the running back at eleven last week. Yeah fifteen for sixty one and a touchdown and now he's going to be the only guy out there and he won't cost you anything. I'm so glad. I hang hung onto him in our dynasty league. What a genius move bro. You still got like ten years left on a dynasty other names that i'll i'll just bring up briefly if you're bottle bottom of the barrel type of pickups and maybe not this one this could be middle of the barrels salvin akhmed could get another nice opportunity now. Myles gaskin is eligible to return. But this could be a later in the week. Pay attention to it. Could snag him off of the waivers. Someone could let him go. He plays the jets He was the majority running back. And then i've got. I've got another name kind of throughout their okay with that level of confidence. Yeah but it's about the same level of confidence. Latavius murray chimera. Maybe he's dealing with a foot. Maybe it's not maybe it's tastes them hill in the scheme. But he was used snaps. Jason exactly fifty percent of snaps. He had twelve carries a couple of targets and he looked all right. So you know matchup against denver. Who's been kind of hot and cold running back. So there are a lot of mid to low there are a lot of sub-standard options Out here running back. I brought them all up. I have brought them all up. I agree with the murray ad. It's i would project that the lack of opportunities not the targets. I mean that that could be a taste of helping but he was missing practice last week. Alvin kamara was with his foot injury but it is also this is not outside of the remote possibility for sean payton to completely transform. The offense while drew brees is out. And say we're gonna we're gonna use latavius murray more than camaro for these next couple games. That's fun all right title. Pickups dallas godart. If he's not roster should be. He finally had a nice game. Five for seventy seven and a touchdown at one hundred percent of the snaps. He is a must add. If he's out there Eric ebron has been coming on a late. Seven targets had another touchdown ninety three percent of snaps third-most routes ron amongst the tight end position rostered in most leagues but should be paid attention to And then you have. You got the main waiver wire pickups of the week including jordan yay really. Who in the if you didn't if you didn't catch the end of yesterday's show it truly is go. Watch it on youtube because watching jason. React to mike. The information that he had snagged jordan. It was a special moment. Shot clock don don and you were so genuinely surprised i. It made me laugh. I was shocked. I was very excited for this moment on this show to bring up jordan reads name. He's coming off the bye before he went to bhai. He was heavily utilized. Mike you brought up the you know in talking about deebo samuel. They're they're missing some receiving weapons and jordan. Reed out there. He's he's going to be. You know if i had him. I would have started him this week. Unfortunately mike has and obviously at tight end. You're talking about risky business with everybody Jordan could go out there and get injured. The i play. You know it's it's not like the best match up in the world but it's rare that on the waiver. Why are you can find a tight titan. Who's going to be out there. A ton of snaps of routes and probably get a bunch of targets. That's all you can hope for in in jordan recheck box here in the numbers for jordan reid he read was re was initially back from his injury in week. Nine barely saw the field so still recovering in week. Ten against the new orleans saints. He played forty four percent of the snaps again. Still still recovering. In that time. He saw fifteen percent of the targets for the whole game for san francisco and he in forty four percent of the snaps ended with a line of five for sixty two and was tight end six on the week. Well let's just say something else here. Depot is only questionable to return show. You is out name name. The the right pass catchers george kittle. Oh wait no es gone. I mean are you jordan. Reed got kendrick. Bourne is there. Is there an argument to be made that you could you could desperation flex flex jordan rate. Let's not go to okay. Because i i don't want the backlash now jason. We we made fun of just a you know friendly Jab at someone in our dynasty league because they were celebrating. Whoa i got richie. James in if for nothing. We're like yeah 'cause if if depots out if if george kittle is out all these guys are out then sure that you can play richie james. We're back where are we back back. Maybe he's not a bad player. Yeah so. I prefer my richie james spell jordan reed. I don't know i don't know about that. I was lexi one of the two. I'd probably flex richie james. Probably but jordan jordan reed is his impolite. He's employer and we'll talk more about him on the mega on show along with. We'll also talk about everything else in the world on the show Other options beyond that should be only picked up with a blindfold and holding your nose bird. Box it Logan thomas jimmy graham dalton robert onion. I mean robert tiny in would be kind of my favorite of that list beyond i agree except for the kaga matchup. They're just a solid defense tongue in would be my favorite. Because i really am. Just got goose logan. Thomas one catch And you don't know who jimmy graham and you won't sign dalton scholtz on principal. Now that's hundred correct. I'm a man of principles. But when he scores a touchdown. Mike comes in here. And he's like shock alaka. That is also correct. That's also true. Defensive streaming options laid off for me the giant I mean the. I think my my top play would be the saints against the denver broncos but they are rostered in a in their forties so well on defense. That's why i liked it. Because they're actually a really good defense drew lock. I get it. They've the handled business last week but they are rostered. Sixty percent ni. Spn seventy eight percent yahoos. That's a just go look and see if they happen to be there. But it's the giants the giants coming off a bye week. So they are readily available. The giants defense is actually a a solid unit and they get the cincinnati bengals who are already allowing a whole bunch of sax. Now you have ryan Finley back there and go ryan then leader. I did go back to the cardinals. Glory days ryan lindley almost that playoff game and ryan finley not not a not. A good quarterback in the giants are going to score we. We have a lot of advanced tools. Metrics things for the join the foot dot com supporters over at our website. There could easily be defensive tool where it just highlights whether or not. You're playing a rookie. Because when you whether it's jake gluten ryan well i mean. He's not a rookie but a a backup. Quarterback is just such a great situation for a good defense. The dow's another defense. I was going to bring up the cleveland browns Look they just dismantled. I mean i want my legal record matchup. Because i had the cleveland browns. They are playing against jacksonville. Oh my that out myles. Garrett doesn't matter exactly that's what i was going to bring up. Is there still a good play. And i've said this a couple of times of also picked them up in a couple of my leagues. I know that they've been a stork. Lee bad defense but the seahawks schedule is awesome. They're playing against philadelphia than the giants the jets than the football team. They're going through the division. You want to be playing against. So i think the hawks are another defense. You can pick up if you've been really struggling with your defense and every week you feel like you're making the wrong pick. The seahawks are out there. They're available and i'll throw at the the green bay packers they will be playing the chicago bears and who's playing quarterback for the chicago bears. It doesn't matter. You guys mentioned washington no not yet. But they're washington's plays on thanksgiving play dallas and. I'm not yes i understand. They got it done this past week. But i'm not impressed and i think Agreed andy dalton will make some mistakes which as young and his face. There's there's a. There's a lot of this week. Full stream ahead streaming quarterbacks for what what is this week twelve now right gracious. We did it. We did it we got. We got the week twelve. That's we always said we'll get there. Although i i'm gonna good daniel joan yeah Who is you know. he's actually. He's been okay lately. He's running the ball. Well he is the leading rusher for the new york giants and he's legit great at that. I mean he. He's so fast which blows your mind but you get him a little bit of space and he can be gone whether or not he will trip himself or into the end zone. Nine up to a coin flip nine rushing attempts for daniel jones last game he started he also has had games in. This is his last five game stretch. He had a seventy four rushing yard game and ninety two rushing your game and then sixty four in that last game so they design runs for him each and every game. Yeah and he's running as well as any quarterback in the league outside of colin murray. So he gives you baseline and now the the matchup is really good against cincinnati. I think this is a team. That's gonna be dejected. Right you you you lost you. Lost joe burrow. You're you're you're not playing for anything now. You don't have joel mix and you know. They're they're favored and over the past five weeks. The cincinnati bengals have given up the fourth most points to the quarterback position so daniel jones i think is a fine streamer option this week. All right mike. I'm going with derek cars and in Also enjoy the the magical christmas rump of diehard. We tis the season. I've already watched it a great movie. not a sponsor but derek carr diehards sponsor. I just want to clarify for the people. Yeah i think people think we're pandering for that. Well look vhs is iheart sponsoring people. At this i am open to die hard sponsorship on this show i. i'm throwing weirdest disclaimer. i've ever heard. Please give us a call we. We've been accused of stranger. I would love to be accused of derek cars. Pointing the atlanta falcons one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. That movie at eight thirty two years later. We're getting sponsorships. You heard about this about this. Movie die hard. I'm sorry gone gone and in the car derek. Unfortunately he's not playing against city again. 'cause that's when derek goes into his final form but the atlanta falcons it. It's back to a plus matchup. They had a nice to game. Run where they rallied. Yada yada yada. And then we've seen them in the last two weeks get torched by drew. Lock and take some hill. Derek cars is in streaming streaming contender this week. You know. i'm a lifetime order of you're card carrying car carrier. Yes let me. Just highlight on the year. Seventy percent passer. Averaging two hundred forty three yards a game in two touchdowns a game this year with a quarterback rating of one. Oh seven for derek carr. So he has been an exceptional. Nfl quarterback this year. However every time. I have streamed him. It is not worth out for me so likewise. I hope you get you as well. Yeah but mike's gonna shows outs done Yeah and then. I'm going to i'm gonna bring up. Tastes some hell no. He's not a tightened anymore but yes he can be played. Yes you will see him. Hit waiver wires tomorrow when people pick up some of these options we brought up on the show. They're going to let go of the cheat code because they may be. Somebody like myself. Who had tastes hill on a team with patrick mahomes or with the team with josh allen. You're not going to play tastes hill over those quarterback options. However you might not have a great option in league week. I played tastes them. Hill at quarterback over cam newton and it worked out. That's the kind of situation you could find yourself in is a viable streaming quarterback option. He will run the football. He has an elite Top five wide receiver michael thomas. He has elite talent out of the backfield and He's going to produce. You're not going to get a week. Losing week from tastes some hill as starting quarterback day some hills a must add. Yeah if you. If you've got a a quarterback that's pretty much as as locked as it gets for fifty rushing yards that that baseline is outstanding. 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Free Agency Madness + Brees Retires, Big Stimmy - Fantasy Football Podcast for 3/16

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Nfl what teamwork we're using today. Welcome into the show. It's free agent time. Everybody look this is exciting. And can i just say. And i say this because i look peel back the curtain here for all the listeners. Mike super pissed off. Mike is so disappointing. Mike is like we're we're recording this. Just we are so spoiled that we want more news. We have a ton of free agents to talk about today. But we're not. We're not happy. We're like i want more. Where's the big. Where's where's the giants you know. Why aren't all five big-name wide receiver signed already. It's been hours. We are recording this monday afternoon. Slash evening ish At all i guess. I can say this where unperturbed jason is the biggest free agent. That we're gonna talk about has some ramifications for my dynasty team and i'd rather not spend more than two seconds on it but but we will Welcome into the show everybody Youtube dot com slash. The fancy footballers if you want to watch the show. I mean speaking of watching. I haven't seen j. grizz. I like me personally. I in i don't know like a year. He well i don't want to. Yeah i mean we try to keep things under wraps but he had a bad year with cova this year and so now he is backing radio. He's doing well and Now that we're in studio andy hallway. Yeah are fearless. Father news With some family right now we get to see. Cardboard pair cut out on the show. We absolutely do. jason already. Gave the handles you can fall the show at the f. f. ballers check us out on instagram instagramcom slash fantasy footballers and if you wanna see a little bit of our personal lives. Instagram dot com slash. It's the same as our twitter handles. F man jason f nfl. At andy away just before we jump into the news just a little quick You know when you're on when you're on facebook in your on these the social platforms like you know. Do you remember last year. And they give you a throwback. Sometimes people do throwback thursday some last year on this day pretty one year ago today and it was just the two of us in the bears witness. That's one that the andre eight hopkins straight happened. Reverend lord i think the texas have had enough of that i don't they they don't mind anymore. They're gone accents fans. They're actually a lot of them. Have accepted the official fantasy football. His invitation to join us as arizona cardinals. Fans that is true. I've seen a lot on twitter. Make sure you check out. The ultimate draft kit ultimate draft dot com the utica plus has dynasty content. Right now. the team is ferociously. Dare i say ferociously making sure that this thing this thing stays up to date as the free agent signings are happening or as it would be not happening right now But that thing will be up to date the second you get in there. Let's get into the news. News and notes from around the league. The saints have their own block in this news section because they have been busy that big one of course saints quarterback drew brees one of the real ones first ballot hall of fame super bowl winner super studly. Nfl quarterback he is retiring. He played for twenty seasons wall. Brother that is a lot when he came into the nfl. There had been one player. Who ever through a five thousand yard Season is true and he has done it five times since he retired home. My great job drew brees. We we had a lot of fantasy fund. Thanks to you and absolutely. I am so happy that you hung them up. It was time it was time i. It was absolutely time but drew brees will never be forgotten number one in passing yards. Completions completion percentage second in passing touchdowns. Now tom brady might break a few of those. We'll see how like twelve thirteen seasons left so probably But drew brees salute to your service to the nfl. Enjoy your time with your family. So now i it's interesting for fantasy for fantasy football. Yes who's the quarterback. Mike is a taste. Some hills at jameis winston. I feel like we did this before. Well what if. I told you jays. Okay that the saints have signed quarterback tastes them hill to a four year. One hundred and forty million dollar contract extension. Incredible i guess. He's the starting quarterback abc. I mean no doubt air. But here's the details. Every year of the deal is voidable the and it feels like this extension simply spreads out taste some hills cap pay because if you remember they like they gave him a really big contract last year. I do remember mocking that. Yeah and so. Obviously the saints are in Just just cap purgatory. They're held hostage. Do there you go. we're figuring it out live. There was a button labelled cha-ching. I'm used to the there is the strap the money drop but there was a button. Yes thank you. But there was abundant said cha-ching. And i had no idea what it would do. So take hill had had the big payment. He's obviously getting along extension so they could spread out the cap hit. This is going to be bad for the saints for a while. Like they still think they're contenders and they've got enough pieces on the roster where they will be a good team and they're gonna they're gonna try to win games there about that rebuild. But i think they're gonna find that another couple of years as they continue to struggle with what they got themselves into with cap trouble. It's not gonna go that well in which case. Maybe so with the four voidable years from tatum hill. That actually says that jameis winston might be the starting quarterback of the future yes Seen rappaport saying is likely the starter they have been working on a deal for a little bit still working on at least at the time of this recording so we just don't know what the saints are going to do except finding this incredible loophole where you give a contract player. That's not really a contract. We'll see if the nfl has anything to say about that. What the limit is could you just do. A one hundred year contract was like this. Do we found the ultimate loophole. We could spread this over a hundred years. No problem buccaneers have signed. Tom brady to a one year extension. So he will be back at least for a looks like another couple years for the tampa bay buccaneers of try and run back. Alan robinson who was dare. I say unjustly franchised chicago. Shame on you. And yes i'm talking. You bear cardboard bear and bears management. How dare you what. You're blaming j. You should be consoling. He did nothing wrong. he's well he's happy he he's happy that l. robinson is under the franchise tag. I'm just shaming everybody that i possibly can from man l. robinson But robinson has plans to sign the franchise tag. He has until the fifteenth of july to actually sign that which means that he still has some leverage. They're trying to figure out what is happening in chicago. Who's the quarterback because mitchell trubisky is not from reading a couple of articles on this there is a chance and and we're just bringing this up now because obviously there's dynasty players and implications here there's a some percentage chance that he could actually hold out through camp holdout midst. Preseason hold out in season we saw levy on bell obviously an entire season not wanting to play for the franchise tag. And he's not happy but we're as of right now. Obviously he can wait. See what they do in the draft. See what to do with the quarterback position and wait to sign the franchise tag. But he's He's not happy about being a bear right now. I'm gonna hit this button. Jay and i apologize that the the drop says frenzy. Okay because it's not a friends. This is a friend who's a lot of news. This is a lot of news this is. There's some there's some there's two big names free agent frenzy an society. Make the packers good for them. They re signed running back. Aaron jones to a four year forty eight million dollar contract. All of our predictions were incorrect. Aj dylan master of the quads. Second round pick will now return to the backup role. Stupid freaking packers But also don't hear what. I'm not saying jones jones's fabulous. He's incredible player. He's gonna be fantastic for fantasy purpose just so everyone is clear. Yes the sadness is just solely that you have aj dylan on your team. And you're disappointed that he's not like a big breakout star thing this year. That is accurate is accurate for for everyone else. I'm sure out there. Everyone everyone else. There are other people who have dylan on their d. That's what i'm saying. Some people out there can relate. They have dylan and they don't have aaron jones and there's dozens of you and you're all sad but thank you feel our pain reality. Here is a great thing for aaron jones. yes now they did lose their center. The who is one of if not the best center out there. We'll talk about that in a little bit. But it's great news for aaron jones I expect that you know the jamaal williams has already said he's put out on social media that he's not coming back so this is great. This is still good for asia. Not great but is going from. A third stringer who spent the majority of last year. Not on the field at all to now being that too in the one two punch the jamaal williams was but i expect because we saw games the jamaal williams missed and the routes run looked. Really really good there. I mean jamaal. Williams was still running like thirty. Five percent routes run of his snaps. Williams is an excellent pass catcher. And and if you have age eight if you have. Aj dylan in aaron jones as your two main options. Who are you going to run out there to be the pass catcher. And it's not that dylan's a bad one but aaron. You're gonna go with aaron jones. Aaron jones managers were so frustrated. Every two minute drill. Yes when they're like. Oh this is fantasy. The two minute drill is fantasy gold for offenses and there's jamaal williams run in the two minutes. That will be aaron jones next year so i think this is good for aaron jones. If if anything. I think he gets a bump up from last year. And it's good for aj dylan versus last year. So you don't be happy mike. I'll be happy. But aj dylan had a ticket booked. You know how like they're sending the first people to space the not. I people like they're sending civilians. I mean he could have been on a rocket ship and now he's just kind of in in middle-class on the on the airplane i get it but i also think there's a good chance of first people space my so i'm mean you know this essay safe route for him because think about You know his compass who derrick henry right. There killing did nothing. For many many many years behind demarco murray saved those legs let him continue to grow into his man body and then dominate if he is still growing into a man body he's going weigh four hundred and seventy five pounds by the time. He's mature grown-up is gonna look like deer. Kids like the hulk. The patriots have not been quiet during the free agency period. They have opened up. The the vaults and i re-. I realized something jason so we have big shimmy right. Okay yeah bill belichick though with the stimulus. I'm calling big steamy big. Oh this is stimulus. Stimulus money yes. He's why didn't realize that. The nfl franchises get heart of it. Yeah to illustrate that. He has spent more than half in in the first day of free agency the patriots and we knew that they were going to make a big deal because obviously they had a lot of cap rim and a lot of needs but the last decade of free agency. They have spent over half in this day. What they spent in the last ten years In the free agent market so they have made a big splash. Let's talk about what they've done. Patriots have signed tight end. Jonnu smith to a four year fifty million dollar deal with thirty million guaranteed This is the most that bill belichick has ever in the bill. Belichick he's ever spent on a pass catcher Round pick devon ozzie. Ozzie dalton keen. Apparently they did not get enough out of those two guys that they would be moving forward with them. I think they did ozzie. Ozzie a touchdown which is like thirty percent of camps passing touchdowns last here's a stat telestrator. The twenty twenty patriots had the fewest fantasy points for any tight end group over the last five years. All right they didn't they didn't they didn't have titan make sense. Where are you on jonnu signing. Because i'm i've people all there are also media hot and bothered people upset. You know from this last offseason if you've been around with us for a while I am a jonnu smith believer. I believe in the talent athleticism and he's getting paid big money and my official analysis point of view as of day. One is really really. You went to a far right to far look. You're leaving a team. That had a lot of a lot more passing volume a lot. More passing touchdowns a much better passing quarterback in ryan tannehill a couple of years and now you're inheriting a team that won. They've they've spent a lot in free agency on defense. I think their defense is going to be outstanding. This year Cam newton joked about him. Being d you win just done. He's certainly not going to be throwing for forty five hundred yards or even four thousand yards. He averaged one hundred and ninety one yards a game in his first ten weeks stretch where he was doing great and that was one hundred and ninety one yards a game. He's not throwing a bunch touchdowns like the fantasy. All i care about is fantasy. Is this a good signing for the patriots. Yes good player. Yes is he going to help the team absolutely. Is he going to help my fantasy team win games probably not. That's my official stance. I interested. bill belichick clearly had an affinity for jonnu he. There are many quotes out there of him expressing his admiration for jonnu especially after the catch. He made sure that he went on got him speaking of other things that they've done cam. Newton was resigned. To a one year contract. It can be worth fourteen million. The baseline of it is not going to be that. I would still expect them to try and draft the quarterback of the future angry. But i will say cam. Newton actually with an off season with the team His second year in the offense the patriots offense is the legends are told of how hard it is to learn. And that's just for wide receivers. A quarterback hasn't had to really learn this system for a long time that we've we've seen them have to get on the field and the patriots have agreed with. They've agreed with their wallets. That they needed to rebuild because they also signed nelson angler to a two to your deal. They signed kendrick bourne from the forty niners to a three year deal now. Those aren't guys that will make you say yeah. Well that's not yet kenny golladay. We'll folder i get it but nelson galore. Would we've talked about all the time on this show last year of someone who looked like there actually is actually good. Yeah maybe maybe he can be a consistent player in kendrick bourne is the same thing where he was buried on the depth chart but whenever kendrick bourne had an opportunity he would come through and he will be a reliable player which is far more than you can say for. Any of the patriots pass catchers that he had last year. I cam newton. I do completely agree when it comes to cam. Newton i mean last year you're throwing to jakobi meyers demure bird. James white was the third target on that team So yeah i mean. This is an upgrade. But i mean obviously mean. You're hoping that this is like when the rams brought in robert woods and we said look robert. Woods good player. He's been married on a depth chart but he's actually good and then he goes and he was good. He was good for fantasy but the difference being they also had a complete shift in philosophy. That was when they brought in. Sean mcvay this is. This is the same patriots team of last year. Adding mediocre pieces. I'm not thrilled. I do think it's good for cam and remember him to start the year. The first ten weeks that i was just talking about their only two games that he wasn't a quarterback one because he runs. The ball has rushing touchdowns all he do last year. Yeah mean. I'm not super in on anybody here. I i expected to be still an anemic offense all right Let's see before we move on. We wanna thank. 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Dj charq to baltimore for some picks and then a ranking official from the jaguars got on and puffed his chest up one hundred percent not true. I mean this dude was bell. Stewart was all about so they added phillip dorsett. Whatever that's fine. That's great for trevor lawrence. Or whoever they choose we can just say trevor lawrence. I've just got to build some some suspense into the draft. Now the nfl's gotta do that. We don't we can be real with the people. Okay fine when trevor lawrence is there. He'll be glad that phillip dorsett is there. however here's the more interesting piece of news. Carlos high As been signed to a two year six million dollar deal now. That's certainly chump change when it comes to an nfl salary. But carlos hyde on the field for seattle last year was good was good. He still had juice. And james robinson has been the hottest topic for dynasty. What do you do with an undrafted. Free agent who came in and was excellent he was robinson was a fantastic run back but he was also getting ninety percent of the market share and the question was what happens if someone comes in and is eating into that carlos hyde instant reaction because we have not had time to digest the. Think about this where you at now. Instant reaction is. This is really disappointing. For james robinson but we knew something was gonna come. We knew we were going to be disappointed at some point. Some point in time you cannot have a running back on the roster especially one that is you know five foot nine undrafted free. Who's getting the workload then. He was receiving you. Running back attempts of rushing. You had so many one hundred percent eighty nine percent one hundred percent eighty seven one hundred one hundred one hundred ninety six one hundred one hundred. He was the only back there. And you just can't go into a season without that so in in you know on one hand you have to say. This is kind of good news. Because carlos hyde is good enough where i don't think they need to address it signing james robinson. If that's what they're going to the season with i won't i won't be shocked now at this point if they bypass running back in the draft or grab seventh-round special teams guy. So this is great. But it clearly means james robinson will take a step down from what he was last year. And that's kind of the projection. We've talked market share in market share. And therefore i believe in fantasy points he will not be as good and twenty twenty one as he wasn't twenty twenty and that's kind of why i brought up the phillip lindsay comp that massive breakout rookie or undrafted free agent. But you're not gonna get the same workload going forward I you know. I've been advocating. A hold of james robinson in dynasty leagues And he's good. He's a great. he's he's a really really good player. He'll be the lead dog but he will take a step back. And hopefully the team is good because the team is good with james robinson. Then he has a chance of sticking around. But what do you say that the jacksonville jaguars are good in two thousand and twenty one. Little yelich thirty percent. Yeah yeah little. But robinson was good on a bad team. I agree with you. Karnal tide is good enough to get on the field. But i think you if you have robinson on your dynasty team you should exhale and feel good about this move. They they have to have someone else on the on the roster and carlos hyde is not just. He's not going to take over a dream. They were going to add a fourth round running back and this is i feel like this is adding a fourth round running back. This is adding of this adoration. I yeah it's adding a veteran. But here's the the danger with a force where i'm running back. Sometimes fourth round running backs are excellent and they pop and they're then in training camp you go holy crap. We have to get this guy in the field. Not just we have. We have someone to give james robinson arrest every once in a while okay. The buccaneers are bringing back. Gronk on a one year deal after he allegedly was going to test the free agent market. That came out this morning that he was going to dip toes into the free agent market. See what's out there. And mike and i are like yeah right what. They're still changes. Not just us everyone. There's just no tsietsi. Plays somewhere else without tom brady. He was going to retire. He four he forced the raise rates. We're going to the lions hired. Yes he said no. I'll take my ball and i will go home. Of course he's back with gronk. We'll see how that plays out we need to hear about. Oj howard has he. He is recovering but gronk could be a spot. Start for your tight end position and then in this news mediocre signing of the week. What are the texans doing bringing in a guy for the locker room. They're bringing in someone to support the head coach. The new head coach. what are they doing. They have signed mark. Ingram formerly of the ravens which there was a the head coach for the texans Was on the ravens teen. When the ravens made the decision we will get better as a team if mark ingram does not play for us right if he if he just sits to the side. Yeah we put our better running backs in Team will be better and well. The running in was the running game was better because have mark ingram. So he's like we gotta bring them marking. Yes that's it. What is clearly doing. No i so i talked tongue in cheek about it but i genuinely believe that this move is not as much an onfield move for them. This is david. Kelly coming over wanting a leader in the locker room. Who has his back. he's worked with before. Who believes in him is. This is a locker room veteran presence. And i honestly david calling needs it right now. The the locker room is is is not the locker room that i would say. Has the best buzz around right now. Yeah they're probably not very. Does this do anything to david. Johnson does will he eat into the workload enough to probably. But if you're going to head into this season what johnson and mark ingram. Good luck twenty. Sixteen would have been great. Just jumping the time machine a couple of important offensive line signings because offensive line. We don't really pay attention too much. Defensive signings unless it's our arizona cardinals room but offensively is important. The chargers have signed corey lansley. They they stole him away from the packers. They gave him a big deal. He's now the nfl's highs paid center. The chargers had the worst offensive line according to pf last year. So this is a huge boost for that team frost. An ekeler for jess. Hey this is one of those. You can't ignore these offensive line. Changes your literally literally going from the worst to the best at the center position. As far as like pressuring given up they had the thirty second ranked and they're going to the number one ranked. That's that matters that hell does your your guards on both sides. The office of line will be better So men austin ekeler us. Great friend of the show. He's been show. We love austin ekeler. Dude has been playing around with gamma radiation. Because i saw another photo where it's like. I thought he was small. But i think he. He's he's shorter. He's i mean i. This dude is ripped drug. That dude his jacked. I mean goodness gracious. His veins had muscles actual had muscles in them. It's unbelievable the kansas city chiefs. They said we don't need our tackles however we are bringing in guard. Joe dooney formerly from the patriots are giving them a five year eighty million dollar contract. That's that's huge for a guard. He's now the fifth highest paid linemen and guard. That's what it was gonna take to get crazy because you think with pat mahomes. He you know you might get like this. You wanna play for a pet mahomes. Oh way man. Joe get that money. Yeah no i don't i. Don't blame them but this is obviously it's it's funny because if if you didn't know the news where they released you know. They had three of their five offensive. Linemen starters the chiefs did are no longer with team. They're gone so they have to make an adjustment. This is a great signing for them very important but at the end of the day like i think the chargers offensive line is clearly an utterly improved it it went just up. I don't look at the chiefs offense as better now because they signed someone after releasing a couple of important players. Hopefully it stays the same and he has a guard as a look. Gonna the offensive line. Hopefully this helps clyde edwards allaire as well because they're the guard will help the running game and the ravens they brought in guard kevin zeitler. They gave him a three year. Deal do you have any other. Do we have breaking news fellas that i missed while we were chatting and we're itching over here. The the amount of refreshing twitter and every news feed we can get our hands on but hopefully look. There's there's silence is is saying nothing is happening. We're watching nothing. The thursday show it will also will be maybe an even bigger free agent frenzy. Because if better be this year's interesting there are so many wide receivers that are good. Even even after the franchise tags of godwin and allen robinson. You have a lot. you've got will fuller. You have kenny golladay. Juju smith schuster. There are a handful of really important. Big-name wide receivers and they're all waiting for someone to set the market. Nobody wants to be first because they wanna come in over the top so it'll be a couple of days But once once sewn sign the nelson aguilar has set the market. Oh man nelson agholor. He's getting paid more per year than aaron jones. Mama don't let your children grow up to be running packs yes But yeah i. I think thursday is going to be very exciting with all those wide. Receivers mailbag jason. We're gonna do the mailbag less. I don't know if you were ready for that. We got off. The website is morton from denmark. Oh bonjour la viscous chenault or the rookie pick one ten laviska shenault or the one ten in this year's rookie draft have pr single quarterback okay. Single quarterback makes a big difference. It does the tenth pick in the first round is pretty good. If you're in a superplex there are four really legitimate first round quarterbacks in this year's draft so in a single quarterback league it becomes very close if the chart news were to happen I would probably take laviska chenault. The jaguars are denying it right. So i'm you've got a good quarterback coming in you've got a head coach that likes to use the You know multifaceted gadget type player. That laviska shenault can be. He showed a lot in his rookie season. He's going to year and that's important you. You get a year earlier of production when you're taking a player versus he right sometimes. It takes a year for a player to break out and even if both players like let's say laviska shenault and whoever you drafted the one ten have identical careers. One hundred percent the same career. Then it's better to have laviska shenault you've fast forwarded that rookie year I think i'm going to go laviska. Okay over overtaking. The over john the show at ten because the way that i look at it. It's pretty simple. Like the one ten has the chance to be better than laviska for sure but it also chance to be nothing. Laviska does not have that chance. I think he's going to be solid. Where i mean are you more. I'm taking chenault okay. I'm taking chenault here. There are it's a. it is a week running back draft class there for our scouting. At least we're locking in. We've got are the big three running backs the big three. And then there's a couple of guys that if they get draft capital. I think they'll matter like michael carter kenny. Golladay irt kennedy Kenny gain. Well there's a couple guys here in there that maybe a team surprises us with the day to pick on them but there are a lot. It is deep at wide rece. Yes there's a lot of. Why the ones that the one ten could be a better wide receiver. Then chenault but yeah. I'm gonna take the fast forward a year and take channel here. We got An instagram question from t. schultz ninety nine which giants wide receiver has the most dynasty value. Kenny golladay calling it. You calling it. I'm just saying they are really trying to go get some big name. Wide receiver And that's who. I would want otherwise if we're just talking guys on the i expect them to do it. Expect one of these big name wanders levers to go to the giants who otherwise sterling shepherd for me because i just think he's solid wide receiver aright Dynasty question here from james in texas. I picked up tyler. Johnson and dynasty in hopes that chris godwin would sign elsewhere. Excellent as a very proactive move With godwin being tagged. Should i draw johnson half pr. I would say no. You're not gonna drop tyler. Johnson at this point the who are you going to drop him for a number one but this is what you have to do in dynasty it. You have to just take shot after shot after shot and of projection of calling what what's going to happen. If godwin had left. That would have been an incredible signing for your dynasty team. Tom brady with mike evans. And tyler johnson. How likely would have ended up. So don't despair keep taking those shots and we had a question that i thought fit into their. This one's for a long before you on. Oh you item johnson thought. Yeah i do. Have tyler johnson thoughts. I think when when the when the chris godwin franchise tag came out. I know that you want chris godwin to just leave but there was and still is still time to come to terms on a longer term contract but the fact that they've signed all their other players. I think that godwin is one year for the buccaneers. Like he's he'll play on the franchise. And i don't think they will be able to afford them. They're going to be in some trouble here because of all the signings. They're doing today. So tyler johnson. I expect. I know you don't want to wait two years for the third year break-up but i think that he will have his opportunity. That is a part of dynasty. Is you gotta have patience with some of these players on instagram question. Here that i thought tied into a jason. How do i get an edge over other foot clan members in minor league okay The way that i thought it tight end was you're gonna to if you're if you're in a dynasty league you're going to have to take a little bit more risk. You're going to have to swing a little harder of trying to be out ahead of these tyler. Says you need to you. Need to be a couple moves ahead and these aren't moves ahead where you're basing it off of absolutely nothing. No a teams cap situation. No a- teams contract situation and be making moves accordingly over those things for players who are in those situations where dynasty teams playing dynasty. You get fatigue with certain players on your bench that have been there. They've been there for years. I have had gerald effort on my bench since the year. He was drafted. I have started jail different. Maybe three times in four years or whatever it is. And i have been holding onto him. This is my moment this. This is everything you take you of. What happens now with gerald averitt. Now that he is a free agent he has said to the rams and he could be illegitimate fantasy option. Harry this is why. I don't like drafting tight ends and rookie drafts. Because it's so often you're waiting for the second contract second team it's like i don't want to hold onto. The kyle pits might change paces different but outside of outliers you and and i would just say. Look if you're playing with all folk limbers and and they're all in it. They're all on top. It's it's going to be sometimes about speed it. Who gets the first person to the trade bloc who gets to the waiver. Wire i or you know. I is the most aggressive. Yeah see. that's what i mean. You got to be a little bit riskier aggressive. Maybe you make that trade. Your trading away Someone like dalvin cook even though it feels bad at the time but he's got to be out ahead of things it's it's it's tough because you're gonna miss far more than you're gonna hit but when you hit. It is sweet very sweet instagram. This was from tim miles. Sanders question is miles sanders. A top ten back this year. Oh brother yeah top ten. I'm going to say no. I'm gonna say he's not a top ten. There's going to be ten players. I like more than miles sanders. There's so many question marks on the offense. I i do think now sanders is good. He'll he'll be. He'll be a really good option. If if the line was top fifteen. I'd probably say yes. But i. I think he's going to be outside the top ten You know and and with the draft capital. The eagles are at what i think Pick six that is going to be really interesting. You know i'm a big jalen hurts believer and i think miles sanders will play. Great with jalen hurts but there are some quarterback because this is a really loaded deep quarterback you know in theory that the first round talent is supposed to be there for four quarterbacks this year It might not be as good even even if they grab a better quarterback in real. Nfl might not be as good for miles sanders. As with jalen hurts. I would like miles. Sanders with jalen hurts miles sanders or josh jacobs. That's so close. Josh jacobs miles sanders or acres. Or tomlin's i dobbins all right and what about Vein muscles austin. Ekeler for sure. I honestly saying this. Maybe he's not my top fifteen but he's he's still i'm not saying. Mile centers is bad. or someone. i'm trying to get rid of our. I don't believe in him. I think there are better options. Like where we're in on dobbins and cam akers. We believe in those players here. This one's very important for our friendship. Oh no oh no i. Don't ask this one man. Don't do it antonio gibson her miles sanders. How man further brand the brand. Who's the quarterback in washington doesn't matter he's antonio gibson baby i further brennan. I'll say antonio gibson what are you actually say though you you would you rather miles. I wanted the cop. Out of for the brand mike It say it. I'll go antonio okay. 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Receivers as what you mean. More good things for my dynasty team is really never really what i'm saying. Thank you for tuning in everybody. We'll see you next time goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast join our fantasy. Football community on joined the foot dot com and follow us on twitter at the f. f. ballers.

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Week 12 Buy or Sell + Triple Mailbag, Sneaky Tank

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Week 12 Buy or Sell + Triple Mailbag, Sneaky Tank

"This Dede Westbrook here with the Jacksonville. Jaguars and you're listening to the fantasy footballers podcast you go to the fantasy footballers podcast coming to you from Pristina. Auction Dot Com studios with your hose. Andy the Holloway. Chason more and Mike Right. Oh I could hear the echoes of football time. That's tomorrow I think it's I think we. Oh Gosh I only do it on Thursday. Oh man leave the people wanting I can't wait. Welcome in the fantasy footballers back again Wednesday November twentieth. Jason More Mike the Fantasy hitman right. I'm Andy Holloway welcoming you into the show by your cell today. The Thursday night preview some very important mailbag some news to get into. It's nearly playoff if time they did. And we're GONNA leave you in silence on that. To just think about the weight I would like to take a moment of silence. Yeah apparently for those who have not made the playoffs and for those of us that have very nice straight. Shh Oh did you hit the mute button again so soon faces let it happen all right before we get into buy or sell. WanNa remind mind you can find us on twitter at the F. F. ballers instagram dot com slash. Fantasy footballers if you want to follow Jason on Instagram or twitter he can do so at Jason. NFL You follow. Mike like an F F hit man. You can follow me at Andy. Holloway posted Posted this morning to lay the land wanted to. Here's some feedback on the show. We always want to make the show. The two most important things for us is that it is the most accurate show that helps you in your league and it's the most entertaining show and out there because you listening all the time and we want you to enjoy your life We played fantasy football to have fun. So we do this show and have fun just by also. Winning is fun despite what you may have thought about fantasy football yesterday. Yeah well it's good. It's good to be back America. I have come back to life. I hi no longer hate everyone. Everything I have moved on Bass Philip rivers I did a healthy Baxter punt him off the bridge situation on my roster and I'm I'm super excited for this show is to sleep recovery. It was needed to reboot needed to sleeps and I'm back. It was so bad that I thought there's a chance you would rebrand one of our two bathrooms here in the studio bad pictures in the mail. Okay all right because right. Now it's IT Jeff Fisher which I can't imagine he loo. It was the last time it happened. It was Greg Olsen. Yeah he did me wrong and I did him wrong. You really did very vindictive with my losses and fantasy all all right. Let's get in to buy or sell buy or sell presented by Pristine auction all right week eleven last week we did. AFC West addition. We did all right. I I suppose Keenan Allen he did top seventy yards Damian Williams one hundred total yards kind of unfair but also didn't seem like he was on his way but You guys both. He would've got there Sir Sir but I win and then Derek Carr top ten quarterback. He didn't get it was the QB twelve yeah yeah he was a QB twelve. which I believe I said he'd be top twelve top ten it although I did lose this week and on the back of the Philip Lindsay call all is the way that I see it. I was super happy that I bought Philip Lindsay because of his utilization. What finally happened this week with the Denver Broncos but the sixteen carries he's but the match up was too tough against the Minnesota Vikings? Yeah Darren Waller five catches what do you do now. What do you do at Dera Waller? I can't imagine not playing. But he's just he did. He had five receptions he had he was back to having a a solid game. That's fair he did drop a touchdown so I mean that sucks but he had had that opportunity where the play was exactly for him. It was executed perfectly except for the part. It always comes down to the details like like that Mike. Well with the fins fins flippers or they fins fins are osiander flippers. Like a the fish. Yes yeah yeah you know what I mean yeah all right. That's why shady fumbles all the time. Well yeah the slippery fish. I haven't said that nickname in a long time because he hasn't been very slippery. been a sticky fish water. All right bye sell for week twelve. Let's start with Calvin Ridley here. Is he going to finish as a top twelve wide receiver against Tampa Bay Week. Eleven last week was the first top twelve finish for him since week to finish as the wide receiver. Eight last week. Tampa is the juiciest of all match ups for white outs. I have to buy this Prequel Prequel to tomorrow show. Yeah I love Calvin Ridley this week. I do think the line is too high here. I'm going to sell similar to Derek Carr last week where I do like them but I I just don't think he cracks a top twelve. He'll be a great play though. Do you want to shoot your shot and say top fourteen but not twelve. I'M GONNA say top eighteen but not all right yeah. I'm going to sell as well just because the line is tough but and you're right that the matchup is about as juicy as comes on looking at the stream finder here though shocking. Talking to me you know who the second juiciest Mansur booze for for fantasy wide receivers the Minnesota Vikings. They've been so good to run fallen apart. Heart but Xavier Rhodes has been terrible. And there's only been a handful of times. He shadowed this year and those have been really bad for them. Those are like groundhog shadows. Yeah sometimes you see him. Sometimes you don't mess all right. I'm with you Marvin Jones. Tin Fantasy points against Washington. Marvin Jones has since week six six. Here's this fantasy finishes seventy third. I sixty fifth fifth twenty-ninth and now eighth. You are leaning on Driscoll skull which all on paper Arvin is not the worst thing to do. Washington is one of the best teams to stream quarterback against to the point. Where you you look at Driss going? You wonder if you could recommend him this week. But I want my by selling the hands of old driscoll. I mean even on his down weeks here when he was the water super twenty nine against Chicago he was still over this line. Only stay straight weeks of doing that. Yeah so what do you got what do you got. I'm going to buy Ah In for those if you are not fully paying attention. Marvin Jones currently outscoring Kenny. Golladay and a half point. Pr Scoring format a the surprising but yet just I'm just here stating the FACS. Yeah I will I will go and sell it. I'm going to sell Marvin Jones. Ten fantasy AC- points. I believe that you can run and pass against Washington they slow the total play countdown. If they can run against against them they will. It's the trick who's going to run the yeah. Bow Scarborough F- Now I'm going to sell it and I finished just below. I will sell it as well. Jarvis Harvest Landry Landry the touchdown the touchdown streak. Does it. Continue Against Miami. He scored a touchdown in Greece. Straight game revenge. Inge is a revenge game. But I'm going to buy this. I keep now. There's a complete narrative narrative here where it's like okay. There's the targets are still going to Odell Beckham like he's leading. You know you look at the last few games. He's getting more targets in Jarvis's services still producing for fantasy. The narrative is this week with a bad pass. Rush A poor secondary. They're going to actually be able to connect on those targets. And it's going to be an Auto Beckham game. I'm going to wait till I see that before. I say that Jarvis isn't the better fantasy producer. And so I'M GONNA say drives gets another touchdown. This week I think Baker is a great play stream of the week yesterday and he's his number one wide receiver. It's GonNa get another touchdown. Yeah Jarvis Landry is getting a monster target sure. Sure so I know they're both I'm going to buy it. I'M GONNA sell all right. Just because the odds of a touchdown come the games in a row Miami. Though it'd be nice matchup is all right. Curtis Samuel Willie received seven point five targets against New Orleans in do we care freaking Kyle. Keilan DJ Moore's liking it say more target share is way up there. He's at thirty percent over the last six weeks. Believe it or not by Curtis Samuel Not in there so I'll go ahead and sell. It occurred the the what's setting is the match up this past week. Now I know. The the Atlanta Falcons had a revolutionary meeting. Apparently with during the bye week because their entire team has has changed their defense looks incredible. They're sacking the quarterback like five times a week. The past couple of weeks again. They were averaging point nine. There's more than they were not before. But Curtis Samuel in that match of come through four for twenty five against the Falcons. I will the line here. Seven and a half targets unless sell it. I will sell as well while. I want to be. contrarian there's only been three games this year where he has been at eight or more targets despite the average being seven point eight because he's had a couple of monster. You know thirteen eleven targets. I think he ends up about seven. Hopkins is the target share lead over the last six weeks thirty five percent Beckham Twenty Seven Jarvis Twenty six. So they're both getting a their fair. Share seems like the Landry ones are probably higher probability targets targets so he's ending up the fancy play. This is a really really tough on L.. Is I wanted to get my answer out. I okay and loudly. Don't in the question I didn't want you to think I was following a it was gonna be Mike Right as a top ten analyst in fantasy. Sell Michael Gallup. Seventy five receiving yards against New England. We gotTA move this line. The lines battle eight. I have already sold. It's going to be three south. Don't just be via copycat patriots right now. I I'm afraid to play any wide receiver against them. My Michael Gallup forty five yards doc by forty five yards Michael Fifty fifty five yard got. It's gotta be the new line fifty five fifty five yards because that's a that's a good line to make you have to stop and think fifty five receiving I will sell it I will. I will all right. How do and we go tiebreaker? Forty yards I will buy forty yards So forty five. You said you would buy forty five forty five forty five forty five forty two forty four forty yard for the man with glasses. What are you I'm fifty oh all right so the line so said the low forty five sell Sell aren't that you could be. Okay See oh by forty the moral all of this story guys if we want to really drill it down or the people that were expecting Michael Gallup to receive between forty and fifty yards maximum in this game making a very look. It's hard to sit him. And not if Amari Cooper out how do you make that decision to sit him you think. Hey whoa boy boy gala bonded that stall no I you play. Are you playing Gallup. If Cooper's gone no I depends on options of course but preferably not it. It's in New England. Oh Oh no. It's just a very that being said. You know that Gertz had a very fine game. I mean being the number one target. Last week he had nine catches. You had a nice fantasy day still a very different player. Gallup has been fantastic and a DNA level. My I totally different. I think any size yes the season. He's been great. It's it's really just a matter of do you believe that deck and the cowboys can get it done against this great offense if you think they can get it done and you brought up Zac. Gertz people do score fantasy points. It's not like you can't start. Michael Gallup but Gilmore. I mean you say yeah. Well if Cooper's out is that actually good that actually galleons word. The New England patriots are famous for taking away. The number one option. That would leave Gallup as that number one option. It's almost like who has a better game here. Michael Gallup Randall COBB I. I don't know I'm tempted to say. Just because he's the third option on the team and they'll be like let's make Cobb beat us all right. Well he's look. Is it tough situation deciding. What upside you really have those players and that's what it comes down to? I'm not worried about him. Having a target share I'm worried about him having production so in the fifty five receiving yards not doesn't get me excited all right that was by herself from Pristine Auction. You can buy or sell. I can't use cell yes you can sell right you care. Yeah they do both both but we normally go buy some autographed sports memorabilia. But if you have some laying around I'm sure can all right pristine auction. Dot Com use the code ballers Talk News. News and notes from around. The League presented vice sleeper. All right Tyreek Hill. Big News tyree kills hamstring injury deemed minor after an MRI. He's got the bye week weekday today. I mean that's that's great. News is just seems like he could've got back out there for one pass. I'll tell you what I'll give you one point picked for that news. I will take it. Because Thursday point stat correction correction. You could give me a win and then David who has been designated to return from. IRA practicing today's eligible to play this week. I am wearing no pants. This is great great news designated for my pants are not now not designated to return on. I R look look. I'm picking up David in Tokyo. I am. I'm not playing him this week. Okay I want. My son is gone not eligible to return as they not designated to return which really based on our proximity. We are the ones that the most now I have very haphazard the stable I have have proven. I don't believe the foot clan knows this. You'RE GONNA share this. I'm going to share this because I said look I sit back behind the table. I that that could be wearing no pants. And you'd never know and Mike you're like there's no way I could know we did a Sirius. XM Live show. And I got. I got toast bands down and after the show we like. We were none the wiser. I did a whole hour. No pants and that's the same as right now David and joke off of our so again i. I'm picking him up. I am not starting him this week. I you know I'M I. He's been gone too long football shape. I'm GonNa say something they play Arizona Arizona and they play them in fifteen of the playoffs exactly and even if joke who has one bright light left on this season so pretty bright light right that week. Jason will be right it look. He's played basically one week. The see this year and he was the titan seven and then he gets injured and we can do and has been like like that sample but yes thank you but look the. Here's the schedule Miami okay. That's that's a great way to kick off Pittsburgh not so great Cincinnati Great Arizona in a great. I mean those were playoff weeks. Yeah I'm again. I'm going to wait until he's show I've held. Will you put your pants back. Aw consider will you consider that to be some shorts. Okay all right news notes as always brought to you by the sleeper APP. You don't WanNa miss a a single piece of impactful news because you may or may not need to keep take your pants off if the parents. How long did it take you you? I'll ask this before we move on. How long did it take you to take them off? Was this a quick they were. We didn't hear very slow. It was a process and I imagine your engine them down on a good. It was just like you know I might see some might be a little break. He has the question I answered. Yeah so all right well we we've got some mailbag. We've got the Thursday night preview before we move on one thing. Today's sponsor Mann's scraped fellas. It's time to gear up. Get yourself a gift of shaving and we're talking about serious shaving this holiday season. I'm talking about about the manscaping. Perfect package two point. 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Take your Thursday night players out of the flex position put them into a running back wide receiver spots so that you have flexibility later in the week because who knows when Robert Woods will decide to skip a game gonna GonNa say that it. It came through this week. If you played your lineup optimally and you put the latest guys into the flex position and and Sunday night showed up and you had Robert Woods there. You can at least pivot to multiple position be stuck a lot of people that I saw pivoted bad necessity to Lesean McCoy right because you know he he was a guy that wasn't being used wasn't lineups and then he went out had a cellphone. Decent game all right. Let's look at this. This one colts Texans both teams six and four divisional match up Thursday night game. Houston three and a half point favorites forty five and a half point over under you. Look into Shawn Watson in this matchup. He's coming off the worst game of the season every time he's done that he's had a very big game following however this is a divisional match up in the the last time you played the colts he was around the twenty point mark. So while. I like Watson and why you'd never bench him. I don't expect them to go off against the Indianapolis Indianapolis Colts. There are pretty strong defense thirteenth against fancy quarterbacks six against running backs it's going to fall into Shawn Watson shoulders in this game I I don't expect Carlos Hyde and do Johnson to be able to you know. Move the offense down the field against this colts defense. So where are your expectations with the quarterback quarterback playing this game. Yeah I think both are are good options. Obviously you're going to start Shawn Watson as far as what my expectation is. I do think he has a very big game game. You've seen him when he comes off a bad game that he works extra hard. I mean genuinely like I remember his last really bad game. He stayed at the stadium. Four hours basically shut the stadium down because he was so upset with himself. This is who he is so I think he comes back and has a good game. PERSET has shown himself to be every bit a bit good enough to compete in the NFL and for fantasy purposes. Look he just gets touchdowns I mean. He's not a huge yardage guy but he's been very efficient. He can rush touchdowns as well so you know like hurry them along like really Russia. Hurry up get touchdown already. He was the QB for the last time he in Houston. Yeah three twenty. Six and four wasn't home though it would be nice. It must be nice to have T. Y.. Hilton in this game for. Kobe Said said it would be nice but the nice thing with some questionable situations is that you get the advantage of Thursday night right. Well Fuller Game Gametime decision. Ty Hilden didn't practice. Tuesday doesn't need to practice to play a game time decision. Would you put him right into your lineup. And maybe I'll find some options options for you until you compare it to Eileen that I would what about him versus Devante Parker. Who's been on me? But Hilton is is obviously an upper echelon guy when he's play again TAKES ON YEAH CLEVELAND Browns in Cleveland I would. I would be playing Parker there. Yeah I believe I'd go Parker okay what about moving into a robber woods. Would you play. I would play T. Y.. Hilton Robert Woods and his personal issue and Muhammad. It's a new then against Dallas. That's a good one mom to new or would you just go Hilton. I think I'd go by Hilton. That's where I lean is. Yeah de que madcap go mad cow. I would go Hilton. Bill this is this is a good example of saying okay when when a star is coming back off an injury sometimes you have to play him when a good quality option is coming off of an injury. So you don't and that'll be Willfuller. I can't imagine that's not the same game. Yeah he can't go out there. Catch a deep bomb Dutch down but he hasn't done much this year. He's coming off of an injury that he pretty much always re aggravates them reenters his injuries. I there's no way I would touch will fuller in this game. I agree with you on that. Here's a fun fact. Coulter actually six. Oh in in one against the spread versus Houston in their last seven games this is for the. AFC South Division. I would take the colts in the points in this one myself. Wow Wow wow. That was so then. Why wears drop? Well I thought about it but people are so used to hearing on Thursday Friday. Didn't know if it was like you know Y- aren't you. Yeah I I don't have the drop. Oh all right. I don't have it now. Ah this drop. Thank you for Jacoby beef brisket. Naim hines Jonathan Williams Jordan. Wilkins Jordan Wilkins returned to a limited practice. On on Tuesday his status today will be huge. Yes if he if he's limited that we still have no idea eh who will be between him and Jonathan Williams. The fact that he's limit on Tuesday I would expect them to be at least be active but he's a full participant. Ah between him and Jonathan Williams man I I just don't have confidence anti if Wilkins's full practice today. Do you still have your Jonathan Williams. I do and and I look. It is every time during the year good or bad. You've gotta feeling about a player. Based on performance. Last week he had a monstrous on strong performance. Eight point nine to carry on a ton of Carey's the coaches like him. My confidence is with Jonathan Williams. Tonight letting it go. Even if Wilkins Zach I will say this in in our League of record I am the MAC owner so this is a devastating loss for me in my playoff push and I had to. I had to take a deep dive last night. Really wanted to try to get this right. In my opinion I was swayed by reading and seeing. What the coaches had been saying about? What's happening on the practice squad for a while? The only Jonathan Williams was actually only active for this game. Because Wilkins was injured right but they were saying. He's just been unbelievable unbelievable in practice all season while he's been a colt he's been great so I think Jonathan Williams has himself a really good game. Here you're security. That's just where I would put my chips. If I have to play a colts running back I put it on Jonathan Williams. But there's no security in this game and there's GonNa be Korea distribution of carries across whoever's active. I found the button. Andy's almost oh stop set of the week. All right. What about Carlos High Duke? Johnson I will play both of them. Carlo side continues to see the ball. A ton is averaging nearly seventeen opportunities a game. Because they're at home. You like the Vegas Line in no it. Just he's a running back who gets opportunities like seventeen opportunities a game usually leads to usable fantasy production. I agree on the Hyde side. I don't think I agree on the duke side. Yeah I'm I'm not excited about either of them. I mean the reality is Indianapolis has been very good against the run there. The sixth best as far as fantasy points given up against the running back position Carlos Hyde has been surprisingly good. You know he was the running back eighteen last week. His previous games the runningback sixteen ecksteen. That's that's a startle asset. But that's not a must play guy and when you're in a tough match-up that I expect to be high. I would would take over on this game. Which is rare for me on a Thursday night game But if that happens then you would see more duke presumably then hide and I'm not really loving either of them are Indianapolis does have the highest pass rate inside the ten yard line this year. This is what we're talking about with perset ending. Up with good touchdown totals Hebron last week. This disappointing didn't practice Tuesday doyle who had three consecutive consecutive solid weeks goose. Not just like I a few bad targets. We're talking zero target. Goose for Jack. Doyle and then Durham fells. Let people down as well so the titans are kind of. Who are you forgiving? Willing to play this week or is it none of them. I look I mean I. I think it's both of them. lebronettes doyle I think are both start table assets once you pass those top eight quarterbacks even off of the goose it's shocking that he didn't get a target but he's still out there. He's you know he was out there on sixty five percent of snaps. And you go back. The previous week's touchdown in each of the week before for oil Four for sixty one the week before that but compare them to the the the waiver and I say I think I would take all of those guys the Godart Hollister Fan Griffin. Yeah take all those over Dole yes griffin hollister and got her. I would play over Dole or Hebron yeah I I think it's too much risk for me man. It's too much. That goose is too much risk the shared snaps. I want them. It's tough it's tough. You also didn't have reset. I mean you never set for the last game that he ghost either but what does it make a difference to you of active for that for that prescription now really. What'd you play Noah? FANT WHO's his target's share is absolutely absolutely incredible since sanders has gone but he's got the matchup against buffalo so Jay. Would you play fant over one of the colts I would not I would I would I would I would. Yeah Yeah. Maybe we should bet that one. I'm not going to bet on these guys. who whoever gets a touchdown wins? The Bet and you know trying to predict those is is bad. The only reason. I wouldn't bet on fant Evan targets. Last week I get it and wait for who knows fan. And he finished as the tight end nineteen he was four for sixty with the red zone. Target in the game. Wasn't that bad. Sure I'm just saying eleven targets Jag. Abbas we all come on the one we examined it gives zero one week sample. I've always career of Jack Doyle being involved in an offense. We'll probably just play Philip rivers if I know. I'm going away from a career where there has been how many how many top twelve performances in the career of Noah Fan. Have there been well. He's a rookie one one. I'm just just saying you WANNA talk sample size I can. I can be dumped to just love here in Utah. Positively about Jack. Doyle Noah could baby can jump over Jagd oil and his baby beheads that is probably more and more yes involved. All Right Hopkins highest target. Sure over the last month he's going to be in your lineup. And if you are desperate desperate if fuller's out you go with stills because of the snap count but it really hasn't manifested into production. Yes when they played you know Indianapolis in week seven. I believe leave us. Four for one zero five. But it just hasn't come to fruition yet. He seems very scary to play. Indianapolis beat Houston thirty to twenty three. The last time they played it was at home in our art it was in Indianapolis and the other takeaways from his game. Not really want to get into all right. Let's do it MAILBAG him some little different about that. Mike it wasn't going to slightly lightly different rain. I my throat hurts horrifically bad oh really yes. Oh I'm playing injured and I I didn't tell anyone don't tell the NFL. It's better better that you didn't because we might have. Had you not do it and that would have been worse for our listeners. Oh you should have heard Jason warming up before the show. He thought he could do it. Like a like a Frank Frank Sinatra. Now do it do it okay. MAILBAG BED EH. That was more. Elvis was that was pretty rotten. Yeah now is the new place. This is the way I knew. I understand With the with the beat-up voice but I'm really glad you on the line. Then you still subjected the listeners to that well I think you can do better mail bag all right if you have a question for the fantasy football or you're still listening visiting head to the website. The fantasy football dot com. Click the submit a question button. You can also dial our voicemail hotline three zero two four six four T. F. F. B. Keep them short brief. Keep them concise to the point and we'll get to him on the show. Let's start with an instagram question from Andrew Pot. Seventeen do you prefer total points. Four or head to head record as a tiebreaker for playoff seeding I prefer total points four. I think that That is the best indication of who was the better team on the season You know I in the NFL. I think they would do that if they only played offense but they don't. We don't play defense so I know a lot of arguments while the NFL does it this way. They can't. They can't do it the way that we can do and fantasy so I think point four's best tiebreaker. I agree I understand like if you miss out on the playoffs to a team that you beat head to head that kind of stinks. But you're looking at the season long teams better. I I agree with you. Total points voicemail question ballers Steve primarily member the foot clan and Dan Spit Wi calling today with A. Would you rather questions this week and the rest of the season. Would you rather start Devante Parker with magic as his quarterback or Alan Robinson with either Jason's favorite Mitch trubisky or possibly Chase Daniel in the ball. Does congrats Grab Brooks on the engagement Brooks so. Let's see is a fiancee now. All say no on say all right. I'm going devante Parker no question. I'm going to Bhante Parker if you're talking about you're going to on tape Parker. If you're talking rest of season I think devante Parker has a great schedule. The he's been far more consistent. He's got the better quarterback play. Yada Yada Yada I mean higher baseline I agree. I am on record saying that. I believe that that I loved the Monte Miss. You are on record this week. I am more inclined to play Allen Robinson The New York giants is a great match up. I think there's been so much made of the trubisky situation. They're going to try to get him involved. And I. It's not like he's been bad had like he's had Allen Rob this yeah okay no trubisky's has been and is the worst but Alan Robinson has had plenty of good games this season. It doesn't he had had to to real stinkers in a row or something like that. Yeah Allen Robinson has had so three of his last four games have been poured. They've they've been games four for ago. It was not the worst but two of the last three have been terrible. That being said he's also got plenty of games inside the top twenty fourth position. So it's just a matter of okay the match ups great. You didn't you didn't like them against the Los Angeles Rams last week with Jalen Ramsey. You didn't like him against the Los Angeles chargers a couple of weeks ago. with Why do I always want to? I always want to say it's careless but yes casey those were tough match ups for him. The New York giants. This is a good match around Robinson Cleveland but if you have to If you have to just decide one now for Parker going Parker as well Parker schedule coming up as Cleveland Philly. The jets the giants cincy. That's the championship week. I mean I think he's Loo doc passing volume matters. I think we all think Alan Robinson's a great wide receiver. Probably better than Devante. Parker is but I am fairly confident at some point. I think it was like week three there were there was like a quick question that was. Will you ever start a Miami Dolphin this year and fantasy football. That was a legit Gitte question. We were asking. Yeah now. They've won two of the last three years. I wonder going back if we made mention of. If it's Patrick takes over maybe then we'll start them. Watch because that feels like what would have happened Here's the scary question. Followers in Brooks love the. Show this randy from Virginia calling. I just had a quick question so I'm walked into my play off right now but I'm curious. Is it wrong long to openly tank for playoff positioning. I probably can't get a buy in my team and my week. Thirteen is already eliminated from playoff. I just wanted to get your thoughts on that. Thanks Yeah I get it I get been there you look at it the bracket the CNN going. Oh Man if I lose this game. I'm GonNa have a much easier run at the playoffs. It's wrong it is. So here's how it's wrong you. The the question was. Is it wrong to openly tank and it always is you have to be slapped added like ooh. I don't really believe this is the better match. Add up I mean you can't just put garbage players can't leave your roster on fielded but you are making a choice as to play. They don't know what you're thinking behind the scene go with with real high variance writers. I think you guys are right. I mean you can't get on the high horse and say that you're going to do everything for the integrity courtesy of the entire league in every circumstance without you know it's disingenuous to your own team's chances and if you believe that your team gets better by losing a match up. It's hard hard to resist that human nature aspect of it. I've seen professional teams. Do this right. It's difficult and fantasy because somebody you have to realize somebody else is GONNA pay the price price for what you do. Somebody else will miss the playoffs. Somebody else will miss their seating based on the fact that you're making a decision about your team and that's where the balancing act is awesome. That's what I miss the playoffs. When I put my best team in there and kick them out I mean? It's hard because you can't you. You have to draw a line in the sand. Yes and if you don't draw the line in the sand it leads to problems for your league for example. What's to say you don't get a question about it's in my best interest to drop good players because they they will get picked up by another team? That will beat an opponent that I need to have beaten. That's in the best interest of your team but then you're damaging the integrity of the League there too right. It's a slippery slope. I if I drop players so mike can pick them up to beat Jason because I want to make the playoffs over Jason. That's the same logic but that infers you know kind of like a one sided collusion and were two teams are working together to beat one team. That's always going to be wrong. The line in the sand to me is obviously collusion is a clear line in the sand. Two teams cannot work together to beat a team. You know and then the other line in the sand and I think this should be a rule in all leagues. Is You have to field a legitimate legitimate roster that you can't leave people off your roster You know and be like Oh. I'm benching my team. That would be objectively wrong I think as long as you're playing guys I it's it's hard to say that playing a sub optimal chance to win is the wrong thing to do. If if it's it's the right thing for your team now having said all that it's real easy to look at the match up coming ahead and then you screwed the pooch on your process and now you've put put yourself up against the team who blows you and you didn't think you could miss the playoffs but all those other team yet one and the new law. How would you feel this week? Jason because you are in in our league record tied with two other people you have more points. You're in the playoffs. How would you feel if one of those other teams that to the the opponent and you needed to have defeated? Here's the thing here's the thing I wouldn't know because I'm not talking about. You would know you would have that matchup. UNDRAFTED played Michael Gallup over Michael Thomas. No I'm you know that's that would be where you know. It's it's you look over. And they got a bench just full of points. But that's the that's I'm just I'm just illustrating the two cited acquaintance. Get what you're saying. If you've got Michael Gallup and Calvin Ridley. You could make the argument you know. Look Gallup's certainly certainly hotter than Alvin Ridley and I'm GONNA choose to put him in. You are winking throughout your lineup process this week all right. Patty ice eight on on instagram. How would you handle it? If you're commission changed the playoff tiebreaker without consulting rest of the league the main issue being the tiebreaker is now significant in his favor. This is garbage. Oh Get out the league is that is down the toilet. Look thank you you. You can't change it's along. You cannot change the rules of the middle the middle of the outgoing woman. You can't change any rules in the middle of the season without one hundred percent. Vote right from the League in if you want to change things for next year. Also you need to vote for me is. That's more like a seventy five percent for a a change in rules or any kind of structure for right now. You need one hundred percent of the people to agree well. Here's the thing it's ridiculous here. Here's the thing that's that's true in our leagues. We put everything to our leagues and I would say the majority Jordy people out to put things to a consensus vote and certain rule changes need one hundred percent certain need a majority Yada Yada Yada there leagues where the Commissioner just decides and I think that is okay but even in those leagues you cannot change a rule for thus this current season in the middle of this current season people have drafted. A certain favors offers him his outweigh and is ridiculous. I mean please play this for him and if he has no shame please exit yes he either needs to undo the liberal or everyone should leave the leap right. Right mill midseason yeah. It is a boycott Sich boycott Sich as as I always say all right. Andrew Dry from facebook says Ravens or forty niners defense for the fantasy football ball playoff ravens. This sounds like a great use for our strength of schedule tool we just put up. Yeah that's not bad the ravens the ravens the Ravens play in Buffalo in Cleveland and at home against the jets. I'm less confident than you too about the ravens defense because of the two road games Buffalo and Cleveland could both put up. Some points doesn't mean they're bad playoff d. I chose to let them go in in a league. I picked him up. And you did pick them up Who are the forty niners matchups? Though they would be playing the saints Atlanta Falcons and the rain. I mean between in those two. It's clearly Baltimore. I the rams since since the RAMS have one they've gone healthier and then the trade for Mark Peters Have Ravens. Yeah I apologize the the Ravens since the ravens have acquired Marcus Peters they are completely different like their outstanding. Marcus Peters is has changed everything for what they can end. Jimmy Smith is back right. Yeah so with him and Mardasson. This is just been such a good defense so much so that look look fourth fourth second fourth the last four weeks. Yeah I mean we don't always make a super early We're not even finished just with the current week of games waterbed for the following week but when we do. Mistakes are often made I. I made a top fifteen waterbed. Ah with Jerry. God I did and the more that I looked into the ravens has lived. I glad I tried to make you look into it. Live no oh by Gillette. I was reading their finishing. I want I gotta I gotTa be honest with the focus of our. Our job here is to make sure people put their best foot forward. Jared Goff my current quarterback twenty. Yeah it's putting your best part forward. Yes shared off the Ravens. I the ravens have been a really really good defense. I I mean look at the I mean. Would you say the Shawn Watson and the Houston. Texans are a really good often. Have Lord. Yeah of course. How did they do against Baltimore? New England dude. They finished fourth against. It's New England to. Yeah so I would. I would definitely say the Baltimore Ravens Dancer and I'm glad you dropped me Andy but it won't matter because filters and I won't make boils we're back baby all right. Let's go to another voicemail question. What's up footballers? This is mark from Washington state. Quick question for you redraft really happy are who would you rather have rest of the season lengthened for me. Please devante Parker Tyrel Williams and Mike Williams thank you so much of the show you said them in the order that I would vote them on. Tyrel Yeah Mike. Wow man what a world for Devante Parker it is the world we live in there. I asked Brooks and we'll save. Save it for tomorrow. But tomorrow's quick questions going to be billed the build the roster of players. That will be the surprise league winners and we'll have have the opportunity of naming them and you've might you've been we've been saying this for Awhile Parker's on that list. He's going to be one of the White House of that because of the schedule because of the emergence of Parker as the target share leader. And you're GONNA have the variable of Ryan Fitzpatrick either being hurt or turner turnover in his way to the a binge but right now with him on the field. How much does that change? If Josh Rosen takes over Woah Argos from the front of the list to the back of the list and not not even on the list. If Josh Rosen is the quarterback he'd on he's off my roster I will. There's no reason to play him. Would he considered just retiring. That'd be the ultimate Samat. Leave the league with the Commissioner of you makes a bad move if the team. Just put Josh Rosen and Parker. I am announcing a young guy. You can you could unretire after a CD. I will say this. I do think tyrel Williams is close here. I don't sure that's an easy. Mike Williams's Williams's third but tyrone Williams had a lot of good games. Yeah upcoming schedule. The next two weeks is the jets and the chiefs. So you know I. I think I'd like both of those players all right instagram question. Do you believe Joe Mixon. This is from Zach Damien Eighty. Do you believe Joe Mixing can keep up his recent fantasy production. Just I think his fancy production Now that's not to say he's going to get a touchdown in every game so you'll be a little bit disappointed but his volume will stay. The talent isn't going away so let's have a good day. I would say the last four or five. Thank you for rhyming. Last four or five games have really been a boon to the. Aw the psychology of all. who own him? INNKEEPER in Dynasty Leagues. Let's put a shower because the quarterback situations not good. The team situations not good in yet. He's been productive. Sure seems like they're going to have their pick of quarterback next year. Yeah and we've got variables on that front now so it's going to be whether it stinks. It's going to be very very interesting. Did you know the mega done is one week. One week away seven days from now for off. Aw Very nice the mega done show one week away brooks. Are you ready. No no you're not. You're not ready for that. Is the right answer. No one has ever been ready ready for the Medical Don. Not even us. We'll come. I have been drinking Five thirst busters a day. Wow that's the prep mound. Do you got a prep that prepare. Prepare that bladder moon for rapid. Oh yeah no expansion. Miami's you're stretching out your bladder Thursday buster so that you can endure along show. Yes I see. 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"G sante willing podcast. Ben is back. Nobody really surprise there. They had a little bit of a public standoff but they did say a couple of weeks ago that ben would return. He's gonna take a little bit of a haircut as expected on. The question remains what happens next so often. Stafford swabbed winston indy. Big ben back to pittsburgh likely at probably appears for me to be his last hurrah. Keyshawn j. will zubin presented by progressive insurance. All of our guests. Join us. On the goodyear hotline. Speaking of back. We wanna see ben back. If you're a steeler fan you got him back. Someone else's back eddie murphy coming to america and that so many iconic iconic roles please coming to america to please tell me please from. Snl everything that he's done but he is back today and that sequel by the way it's been boomer tastes boomer would say back back back back thousand nine hundred eighty eight coming to america hidden meter near you now. Nobody's going to a theater near you but that's a different story for different dive. It is out today and streaming. So we're asking you. It's a friday. we'll keep it. Loose coming to america is back today. Coming to america to the sequel. Alright so we're asking you take a movie sequel coming to america adding to it now with part to take a movie sequel. That currently exists. That you don't like and traded for movie you wanna see a sequel of so essentially hangover part of these too much. They jump the shark on it. I'm going to take over hangover part. Three i'm gonna toss that and there's a movie out there that hasn't had a sequel avatar. I'm going to do it. So sci sci-fi i want to see avatar take one. That's a little too about five because it's not really watch. Id network to real to world. No so i would get rid of one and adn okay. No i'm just trying to think. What are we gonna get rid of that need secret. You said the hangover. Yeah just takes one. That's headed part two or a bit. I'm getting rid of a hangover. I'm getting rid of many scary movies. Okay i'm good at thirteenth part whatever. Yeah i'm stopping friday the thirteenth. I'm gonna stop so scary movie. I'm good one two three. I'm done with. And then i want to see coming to america to which is actually coming out today. Correct i understand is coming out today. But that prior to it coming out i would do that so let me get this right. You're okay. Do you want to get rid of the friday the thirteenth movies so when people get chopped up in fictional movies are good. See that's life though you walking hypocrites. Oh man friday the thirteenth one. Two three maybe four when he was still young. Okay with jason. But as he got older and went no because he's not going to catch me is unrealistic j. He ain't catching me walking. Take little bitty steps and i'm running see. I got one catch me catch me i. Can you help me out some help some crushing. I'm not running and falling down. And then another one. That i would that i would like to see. A sequel of is get out frequent recent. That way i can see the way kiva at me saying it. Trade a sequel of get out four. This is tough not i'm trying to think. Kill bill now because kill bill to right they have to yeah for Name in the movie man with chris. Rock him comedy rush hour. No not rush hour. Chris chris tucker it the movie with the there. Swimming in doing the whole deal. Grownups grownups. I don't understand. They can keep that straight grownups to like inside. Man like see inside man to denzel university inside man cool about it though it was cold. That's those are my kind of movie. Wafting scheming moves. It was cool. Okay robbing a bank is sitting inside. I mean come on. I mean it was the they did it though. I get it what else we got out. Well here's what some of our fellas and ladies are saying so once again question. Take a movie sequel. That's terrible let's trade it out go i m. Db's club into the exception to that. Yes because that goes still trying to get through inception one. It's so agreed right. So we're taking a movie sequel. That's out there yank it scrub it off. Imdb and then put one in there. That's yet to have a sequel. That really needs it. Glenn diehard five is in the accountant partout is out dies come into but they said that backwards. Ed did i said that back. I think i might have. Does that. mean he he wants to be. He wants diehard out was to be an accountant to in a was a good movie. I like account diehard out account part or at five. I don't think i ever seen so. I don't think i've gotten their five zoli. So many times i could see a guy john lane. Mike lee didn't die hard enough. Apparently okay so talking new york talking new york on twitter cannonball run to out. Et phone home part two in. Yeah i wouldn't mess with et to see you. Don't aside file. At was colds he was cool. I tried to get my kids watch. Recently they looked at me laughed. So the rainy i mean. That's it wasn't. It's not grainy but it was. It wasn't you know wasn't may version but it wasn't they just didn't like it they didn't feel ju- berry more they just wouldn't filling it like that a couple more. We'll get some calls. Let's go a little more golf here. Adams seven one seven trade caddyshack to for maximum overdrive to. I don't know man s drive. How about these two. I know you'll know these to swap out see. I'm a little tough on this one. Because i think this series in pretty good but hey this is what. Walk her at your opinion. Dark knight series traded in to create a happy gilmore to know. Do not even. That's not dark knight not gonna come on. You gotta come up with some more movies. Trade that bain those characters. I gotta have it in my life. You did mention denzel. Let's go to the Phone darkness ally nicholas is in mississippi are on espn radio right. Nicholas bag sequel. And then gimme one. That needs one. Feel like this. I trade the sequel of any movie for a sequel of a crane day part two who. I liked that. Yeah problem no surgical with this baby. The problem is you can't have a sequel right because details ethan. Hawke was in there. I mean he was a guy that he could take on a different role. You could also got washington son. David can do different things. Different things off. That i like that. How about our. I can't say we did reference jason. This morning. I don't know if calls a hockey mask. Carl in new york you're on espn radio sequel out something fresh in or not. Hey carl carl are you there. So carleen jason get you called. The rangers have always had goaltending problems. Lundquist left so the the mask on jason. Okay so carl. New york are he. Was he saying. Friday the thirteenth out the trump teeth sequel and then the program too good was so long ago though so i got to see it again even remember exactly what it was. I know it's football. What was what was the character's name i know he was like doing steroids in the movie or something like that right. Yeah what was. It was the program. And i might have been like in elementary along the long. It was a long time ago. Here's the other thing. Just tell me the irony of this once again will continue to take your questions throughout our your answers. Excuse me to this question. Throughout the morning. Coming to america to out today amazon. Prime and it's the remake of the the next version of the one thousand nine hundred thousand eight movie they wanted to take a sequel out and then put one can't get add sequel. That shouldn't have been made. And then add a sequel but is out there. Go this chainsaw massacre out what any given sunday to there you go. 'cause key was on the set of that one you told us last night. Yeah any given sunday to know. Texas chainsaw massacre was real to a degree c stein. You know that it was based on a. 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Yeah he's supposed to be be afraid of what's in the club on mental. It was a. I believe it was a at the time we're in high. School was a sixteen in up like a real club club sitting on pain and ops. Absolutely one hundred percent. How are you. I was in high school so i was like seven. Then they switched it. Once we got to college people real here it was college. He was prepared for stardom. Go into clubs at sixteen. And la's game was bevo and that was the audience in the crowd. You didn't know why. I mean i wasn't out in. La allow early ninety s. Not pop like that. They had to pop in new york was a little bit. Different sneak out just different experience in the city mental. Mondays sounds like something. Pete carroll had turnover over thursday night at the time. We got a real. Dj here on our show. We got a real dj. I don't know about other shows. We got real dj. So here's the deal. The draft obviously april. Twenty ninth may one. Espn espn radio. That's an opportunity for you to find your quarterback or use draft capital to acquire a quarterback. But there's so much work to be done prior to that as well and that's where we want to start with matt miller this morning. He's espn nfl draft contributor and you can check out. Matt's latest mock draft on the draft scout dot com and. He joins us this morning. On the goodyear hotline. So matt rask this morning. I know we're going to talk deep draft here. That's your level of expertise. But we're asking this morning. This quarterback logjam sorta tight right now. We're expecting all these guys be flying off. The shelves. Goffin stafford has big. Ben is back winston indy. But i think a lot of people expected the floodgates dope and they haven't. Who's the one quarterback right now that if were to be moved could really unfurl. This and then all the dominoes start falling. Yeah good morning guys. I think it starts with the shawn watson really i think a lot of teams are going to sit and wait because the shawna's twenty five years old. He's one of the three or four best quarterbacks in the nfl. so no disrespect to russell wilson who is a very good player but he's thirty two years old so seven years older. His contract situation is a little stickier. So i think the sean is still the domino that were waiting to fall and with russ. It's a little different. Because i know he said i'm not trying to be traded but i have a list of teams that i would go to. He's already named teams with shawn watson. We haven't seen that sir teams like the new york jets still have some hope that shawn watson could be available. The miami dolphins still have some hope the carolina. Panthers still have some hope that maybe the houston texans come to their senses. And we'll actually trade to sean. So i think that's why we're seeing this market really slowdown. After you know stafford golf and wins get dealt. Everybody's okay let's go sam darnold is going to get traded. Teddy bridgewater is gonna get traded and that has stopped because we are waiting to see what happens with shell watson matt. This is your season right here. Mock draft season the off. Season timing as latest. Mock draft is out right. Now what did you make of where. He has guys at a shot. I got an early look at this. I think the biggest takeaway keys that four quarterbacks in the top four picks that is unprecedented. We have never seen anything like that before. It would be historic and it goes to the point of supply and demand. You know we talk about the quarterbacks being traded those teams that can't trade the jets can't somehow course shawn watson to waive that no trade clause. They have to draft a quarterback at to the miami dolphins sitting at pick three. We've seen before. They want tin games last year. They don't have to use the number three pig. They could trade out. Let carolina come up and then it for the atlanta falcons have a thirty five year old matt ryan. So they're in a good situation where they can either try to build around matt or they could trade out of that spot. So i think the quarterbacks going one two three four deserving this year for very good quarterbacks the top of this class. But i do think that would be. It'd be wild. It'd be a great draft night. If that's what happens april twenty ninth both. Un todd and your mock drafts have the carolina panthers jumping way up to go get just in fields in all honesty right now is justin feels that much better thin teddy bridgewater. I think so i do. I think the key is that justin is a much bigger player. Much better athlete. Much stronger arm. So when you look at quarterback position what are we usually start with big is. He is six three to twenty five. How strong arm he can make throws to every level ohio state love to roll this guy out and have him throw opposite field. What can he do athletically. As a runner go back to his freshman tape at georgia. Watch where they were just putting him on the field to run. He wasn't really being asked to throw so on the big justin fields fan. I've said before on here. I think he is more athletic. Dak prescott so the armstrong him to open things up seemed to total field. I love teddy. Teddy's a check down. Charlie for sure and you're not getting enough justin feels. He's able to hit every area of the field. I mean let's remember who carolina's offense coordinator joe brady. Who took joe burrow from ohio state said not enough. We're opening things up. We're gonna go fast pace. We're going to attack the entire field. You may joe burrow one of the greatest college quarterbacks ever with really one season a place. I think borough excuse me. Joe brady working with justin fields some marriage. There's a perfect marriage. You certainly have been in the scouting department with reference to chuck down charlie man. Let's talk about that before. Kao pits man highest tight end drafted in the draft in the history of the draft. I saw mel. i think going forth to the jets. Todd had them going. Sixes lays mock draft you. I'm going to the falcons. Are we starting to see this trend. Become a current thing. You i think jay differences cal is not justified in so folks like in a four. What are we talking about. This is not vernon davis coming out of maryland. This is six foot six hundred forty two hundred forty five pounds. Who's probably gonna run in the four four range at his florida produce so it's just a different dynamic and we're seeing position football be played right now where you look at cockpits up wide receiver slot wide receiver. We can put you in the backfield. There's an age back. We can lining up in line tight end so the game is changing where you take a player like how pits and you just make him a mismatch problem that's why i had him go to atlanta. I know melania super hiram as well as we might have to talk about him as the best non quarterback in this draft class because of what he did. Florida the catch radius yards after. Catch even when you knew the ball was going to him. Even when you knew or cal was throw the ball people could not stop compet. So i think no the year he had was amazing. The some great wide receivers jomar chaser. Lsu devante smith at alabama. But if you want to ignite your past game you have to at least consider kyle pits the first off the board. Let's talk about those two receivers in your in your mock. You have to march going six. Two eagles and devante smith going twelfth twelve to two. Lions is big of a gap between those two. No i don't think there is. And i know that seems crazy. People are listening to home watching like six and twelve these to the best wide receivers. We've seen a college in quite some time but remember last year the run a wide receivers did not start as early as we expected. It did start to pick eleven so we'd sat here march fifth. Happy birthday to my mom. By the whigs out here march fifth and said those wide receivers gonna go into the teens. We would have thought that was crazy. Talk but right now. We're seeing that. The nfl devalued the wide receiver a little bit in the top jan. If you don't have a julio jones or calvin johnson type player as great as jaguar chases he foot tall. Two hundred and eight. Pounds is great as devante. smith is. He's six foot one. One hundred seventy five pounds so players like that is not a great precedent for them going. As early as people might so six to the eagles a great landing spot bridge marchenko go work with jalen hurts and then we could see the trickle down effect as we talked about the quarterbacks if five quarterbacks during the top ten and two tackles go in the top ten someone has to fall and like last year it could be those wide receivers. I'm taking my great comment about you. Being an excellent skull backs and she didn't mention me in that top tier wide receivers. Taking the top five picks. You were a little before my time a little. I talk about you on my couch man. I love having fun. That's what this show is all about early in the morning on draft on the draft. Scowl dot com. You have chicago. Bears and draft in a quarterback at eight and trae lance take us through the scenario of how the bears can acquire trae lance in the draft. I got inspired by mel. I don't usually do. Trades mock drafts. But i heard him give todd some some stuff about it and i was like okay i gotta do to so the chicago bears right now. They haven't asset that a lot of people aren't thinking about and that's alan robinson wide receiver. Who is set to be a free agent so instead of tagging allen robinson and trying to sign up to long term deal. He doesn't want to be there. You tag him and trade him. You have an asset. So if you tag alan robinson. Trade him to the baltimore ravens. Who own pick twenty-seven nash chicago has picked twenty epic twenty-seven which gives you the ammo with some future draft picks to get into the top ten. Especially if there's that early runoff quarterbacks we might see some teams be willing to move out of that top spot so it gets messy when you start talking about trades but the bears do have assets where they wanna get aggressive that they want to try to jump the denver broncos if they want to try to jump the san francisco forty niners. They can actually do that. By using the franchise tag on allen robinson the trading him to a team like a baltimore who at twenty seven. We all know. They need a receiver big wide receiver at pick. Twenty seven no one on the board is gonna look like alan robinson. So that's that's a smart move. The ryan pace can make to try to salvage what he's got going there chicago. That's a good point. Because i think draft stock and draft pick searches held like bars of gold and people don't wanna part with them but to matt's point if you have a proven commodity sometimes it's just easier to go with the guy you know is good then draft guy and hope and key has been saying for a while the ravens do need a legit number one pair with hollywood brown matt. Thanks for the perspective. Obviously have you on as move closer to the draft april twenty nine th on espn and espn ring buddy. Thanks appreciate yes. Well that's matt miller and wanna mention one other thing on the draft. You may have seen pop into your phone. Our colleague mike greenberg is named the host of the nfl draft on espn draft mentioned on espn. He'll be sitting there with mel. And mel's radio partner. Dari noca- saturday mornings on espn. He will be manning the draft on. Espn radio so congratulations to mike. It's a great moment. And i know last year. The pandemic essentially had the draft. Take on even greater heights. Right because people were starving for sports. But you know there you can count on one hand. The amount of people that have hosted the nfl draft in the history of it being on television. So mike is the latest congratulations to him. Boomer did it for a really really really try wingo and might that's all right back and fica that's pretty much. It exclusive company for a great company at the great stuff from my congratulations to draft a couple years. In that thing you talk about studying. That's mental chat. Eight breath during the pandemic man who things are fast moving younger studying so much. How long how long has the nba like. How long probably two and a half hours i know does not. Nfl radio city music hall and we literally could not get up to go to the restroom because it was at a time where it was just to to what was no commercial breaks. It was the long before they broke it all the way down in a bathroom break and years. That's starving to death. Can't can't drink because you've got this is like and then not in real time you're supposed to really come to a conclusion about hey team make the right move here. The repercussions kid. You're also talking about young adults right. So can you be as critical. It's crazy it. I know we gotta move on but it was. It was fascinating. Because i learned a lot about a lot of players in i could predict. It was so weird. Because it's so much information. I can predict who's gonna have success based on meeting and understanding and following him really studying. Who would have success and who wouldn't have success. It was like yeah well. We did say he was going to be good. Or wasn't i remember. I said i will take collison over. Trae young destroying because and his pan out to be a pretty damn good pro. No doubt about it. So he got to round sixty picks. You got seven rounds. Sometimes of two hundred six in the nfl draft so again. Congratulations to greenie manning. Our coverage of let's be honest outside of the game. This is the most popular thing fans draft every year. What is plan. I watched it a games. And then right below. It is the drafts. Congratulations to greenhouse john. Jay zubin presented by progressive insurance. We are talking about the best football being drafted in the nfl in late april. The best in the nba are ready to go this weekend. But not without controversy. And it's not what you think we'll dig into it. This is player versus player. That's after this sportscenter. Update good morning. I'm zubin mohanty football program. An internal investigation had found that former head coach. Les miles had quote inappropriate behavior with female student workers in twenty thirteen. Usa today unveiled all. This espn looked at some documents. Miles was accused of contacting female students via facebook and text meeting with them off campus alone and kissing. At least one of them though. I should mention that. Miles has vehemently denied the ladder accusation. As you likely know less right now is the head coach at the university of kansas. Less was he. Is you know no a michigan man. That's a big things like. I don't wanna know anymore. That was a michigan man. Michigan defeats michigan state. Sixty nine fifty to clinch. It had great job under to one howard second year on the job. Michigan now is sixty two percent chance to earn a one seed in the tournament. Selection sunday is sunday march fourteenth. We'll be covering all night long. Draymond green go to michigan state. Why would he fire up michigan. The plate michigan state. because that's mongering. Where's your loyalty at. Mit rolled shoot from michigan stadium about on the line. I don't care about draymond. We'll talk about dream on some of the other. Nba superstars here in just a minute. Very interesting developments here last night as we head toward the all star game the all star game is going to be in atlanta and black history always is going to be focused on in atlanta. Professional team beat landed dream. The two thousand twenty integration of the team you might remember the republicans opposed to their owner former. Us senator kelly leffler and they opposed running for senate or trying to get back into the senate by wearing t shirts. That said vote warnock. Dr reverend raphael warnock her opponents and dr warnock was able to be victorious in that election in georgia in the month of january since then leffler has sold her stake in the atlanta dream. To among others a consortium that includes former dream guard renee montgomery and sportscenter is presented by progressive. You could save when you bundle your auto home motorcycle. Rv your boat visit progressive dot com. My name is jay. Most influential woman in my life is my wife nicky. Bonna corsi in order to pass five or six years. My has been going through a ton she's been in and out of hospital. Kidney transplants diverticulitis. A lot of different things that she's been dealing with and my wife has helped me down steps away. Meanwhile she also gave birth to our first child. Emilia brooklyn rose williams and she is loving my life. The way she holes our family down the way out to travel everything that's happened with the pandemic. She's always been not cornerstone for me in strength for our family. So i'll tell her i love you more than anything on this planet. I know you're about to give birth to her second child and once again you are light that our family needs. I love you nikki. And thank you for holding down our family holding me down. How about that key. Komo man this j wheel. Maybe he knows the deal. i mean. that's that's what it's all about management family. Nothing is always tell people you know. Get people say things to me about you know why. Go for this team. That blood is thicker than water all day. All ain't even nothing to think about at all. Well said well said and of course she. Well said there as well. Lebron said something that was well said but may not be taking exactly the way. Many people want so here we go. We've got the all-star draft team. Lebron team durant going back and forth. We got the starters familiar names. Yana staff embiid. Luca hawaii yokich beal tatum. The expect to be and then round two. They went back and forth lebron and durant who we might see again in june or july. The season stretches into july hopefully for seven games in the finals then came the reserves and a very to last reserves the saris of the starters the reserves of the reserves and durant final pick of the reserves. Donovan mitchell the best player on the nba's best team record wise to date. The very last selection overall goes to team. Lebron lebron's last pick goes to donovan. Mitchell teammate rigo bear who's played great basketball and two out of the last three years has won the nba defensive player of the year award. So why would you slight these two guys on the. Nba's break out team well. Lebron explained his rationale alongside the fellas on tnt last night. And let's say if you're of a certain age. The bronze explanation is going to make a lot of sense. I just wanna say so. There's no slander. But you guys gotta understand guys guys gotta understand just like video games growing up. We never play with utah. Even as great as cromwell those video. Never i mean he ain't line play video games my whole life. I'm like hey let me pick the utah jazz. He picked karl malone. Who i wanna rock out and be john stock and i was always like i want to be is eight. Thomas i wanna be michael jordan. I'd rather be larry bird. Like let me be. Larry in never for once in my mind that i go to utah. But they're don't get that twice it. That's bs man to a degree. The fact that the best team the two players in the best team get drafted last. There's anything that will add to the motivation of the utah jazz. Especially the way they loss. Seventy sixers the night before bad caused by the refs. The fact that people don't respect how good of a team the utah jazz. Are you talk about the dream on video. That you want our us to motivate michigan. There's a litany of things that are now going to be used to motivate the utah jazz. Yeah i get. I get bra said. There's no question that's why they all just fell out laughing because it's true. I mean it's utah. Nobody ain't filling utah. Like that. And i understand but what does the city have to do with the two players right. I mean that's what people like. Well the two players deserve to be picked but they was picked at the bottom as reserves at the very easily could have been somebody lebron and wanted to pick somebody else. They could have very easy to say we go pick these twos instead but they picked them but it goes back. It's just like me say. Don't throw your computer at me jeff. Wilpon is just like duke. We don't really rock with duke like this. Great like duke. Yeah man great great winning the whole deal but when we was young we was feeling michigan in a fab five. We didn't would filling crystal. I'll talk georgetown. Georgetown with pale. Yes the way we looked at it growing up. And that's the same way that lebron we're looking at the utah jazz to comment on the body. That's just the way it is. It does make it interesting though when people will say where you play doesn't matter people used to say try to use that argument when it comes to name recognition. It's almost i love portland portland's dope place. Yeah but that's why dame will never get the recognition because there's portland because he's in portland and as much as fans in portland. Try to say. Well that's not really the case you know any team look at what's was i on zion's different because zions in dame is still getting a lot of love because he closes out games that are different rep but imagine if game was in. La imagine if data is in your imagine. If dan was in chicago we talking about dame every day. It's very is is the flavor of the month because you're waiting for a dunk. in remember. He blew out the shoe so he comes into the league. Widsom stuff following him already. Built into social media already built into the social media. So i if if the pelicans win games then they'll continue to talk dame at forty four last night here forty four and we're we're not we come into our meetings and we've been around a lot of other meetings immediate you gonna see media league with that. Hey it's like what's happening with the brown what's happening on this of the all star game like all these other things it just smaller markets. It becomes challenging for them at times. I would just say two things. One portland top-five fan base. There's no doubt and it's a small constellation but if he goes down as the best player in that franchise's history he'll be beloved to a level that few players can because that fan base is unbelievably onboard. Second thing by the way circle these two dates. Both of these games are on espn. That's great saturday. April seventeenth jazz at lakers. We'll be covering one day. Just two days later jazz lakers again. That'll be ten eastern on. Espn vile away. File away this draft snub for april seventeenth and nineteenth on the way. Our nfl insider dan graziano earlier. This morning said it's doubtful the bears would bring back mitchell. Trubisky this fall. So where did the bears go a guy that knows the team as well as anyone is on the way after j. as this from indeed for my business owners out there this is for you. Listen up we're on the same page. We own a business owner. Everything you get it. Sales finance customer service. 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You thought it was hot and twenty twenty. Wait till you see what happens in twenty twenty one. We're joined by adam. Amin on the goodyear hotline brought to you by good. You're celebrating march deal days with long service and savings visit goodyear auto service dot com for offers. It might take the entire segment to reel off all the things adams doing right now but i'll start. Magi preseason voice of the bears chicago kid grew up in the burbs listening to len casper on the ringtone former legendary announcer for the chicago cubs. Now with the white sox. Adam goes from being a guy that listen to those guys to be in one of those guys. he's also the play by play voice of the chicago bulls. Yes and he does baseball for fox college basketball for fox. As soon as he's done he'll be charting something for his next game so i appreciate them taking five minutes to talk to a job. We're overachievers that they say about us. We're overachievers adam. Certainly one of those. He joins us this morning. We're having a little fun at them. Let's start out with this. The bears the city revolves around the bears. Best and worst case scenario at the quarterback position. We talk about it every morning. I think i personally great. Thanks for the boys. I appreciate all of you. You guys know that but Good to talk. Yeah i'm i'm with you on. Best case scenario probably is the russell wilson scenario because there there is not a perfect long-term option. I do think that is correct. You know between trying to figure out contract situation. Your you're saddled contract wise right now and moneywise salary cap wise. Because of what's what's happening on the defensive end the khalil mack deal obviously is taking up a of space robert. Quinn's free agent contract last year. And what you've done to the secondary so there's a lot of money tied up in the defensive side of the football and other than maybe the russell wilson option. I don't know if there's a great long term option if you could somehow trade for russell wilson and then be able to afford the cap space that would take the sign him. Long-term maybe that'd be the best scenario. And i don't know how likely that is. Worst case scenario. I and again. I hate saying it this way i don't i. It sounds like a slight against him. But i think re signing mitch trubisky. They'll long-term deal would probably end up being the worst case scenario if he hasn't given you the level of productivity that a contract back caliber of that of that number two to resign. Somebody like that would take so. I think that's probably the worst case. Scenario right now Unless you wanna throw in. Nick foles as the next option is a long term deal. There's a lot of options that don't look as appealing. Especially when you have a front office. And head coach matt nagy and a a gm and ryan pace that feel like could potentially be in in a lame duck season right now. What's going to be there. Scenario a year from now and i think that's worth the worst case scenario is looking currently for the bears. You don't have a great long term option adam. Let me ask you about the bulls for second the guards. I love a love. act levine. love kobe white. I don't know if i'm sure if i love the bigs. Laurie marketing he talked about window. Carter what do you see this team doing by the trade deadline to make the next step for the bulls organization. I it's a tough thing to battle right now. I think jay because our tourist karnishovas who comes over from denver takes over as vp of operations. He spoke to the media. The other day with the bulls play the nuggets and and was basically saying that. I don't look at players just as trade commodities and and there's a lot to try to parse through one sentence but that's the sentence to kind of stuck out to me from his press conference the other day and i wonder what does that translate to in terms of staying pat at a trade deadline. Because you're trying to play for the future or does it mean trying to ship off a player like a thaddeus young if you can find a trade package for somebody allow remarketing or a window carter junior. Would you go ahead and take that right now. Carter is still under contract for another year after this season. Marketing is going to be a restricted free agent. After this season and in the long term can you keep both of those players. Do want keep both of those players as long term options to build around as part of your core. I if you're considering the quarterback zach lavina white and then one of those two players and then maybe trying to keep a player like a thaddeus young. that's such a productive season and has a really important relationship. It feels like with some of the younger players. Is that what you build around. So i don't know if it's a trade deadline move if you're playing for the future but if you could possibly package one of those players for a lot to come back or a couple of draft picks that you can build off of that. I think that may end up being the move or this is a team that just kind of sits around And sand pat and see what this year looks like in the second half of the season and then try to reevaluate in the off season. And try to make some moves when you're going to have a lot more cap space next year remember auto puertas contract is off the books more than likely. Make sure it'd be interesting considering the history of injury for laurie market into if they'll be able to oxygen properly. But zach levine is headed to the all star game is he the greatest score that the bulls have seen since. Mj derrick rose is in that conversation but he hit and adam we got less than a great question. Invoking mj but less than a minute. If you could squeeze it in yeah no problem. I think your numbers. Why certainly you know. Derrick rose didn't put up these types of consistent offensive numbers in scoring category. Obviously he played a much more true point guard bowl a much more true scoring point guard type of role but i think xactly being with this level of consistency in this era of the nba. When the three point shot has to be as sharp as it has been. He has developed every point of his scoring ability. He has elevated that. He's deserving of an all star. Glad he got it this year and now it's time to take the next step nc begin. Elevate the play of everybody else around which has been efforting to do this season. How about when you grow up listening to joni act and larvae. And johnny red kerr and then you join that club. That's pretty awesome. I miss her. Mcdonald's all american days adam missiles as in chicago baby good. There's some good days rather we appreciate. It is really really kind of get invoke all those names all the very important names in the history of chicago broadcasting commend. You earned it. Thanks for being with us. We'll see in the fall call on the nfl to picks boys you got it. That's a great. Atta mean on the way the one. Qb dak and the one thing. Nobody's talking about him. We will next do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. Fortunately geico makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Geico dot com easy.

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"The now i'm getting made fun of. Because i forgot the time that jack was going to be on all right. At least you're listen. James repeated for the spn fifteen thirty with six o'clock in twenty three minutes. You're gonna hear taryn bland. Give his free agent that the bengals must go all in on. Money is no option to sign. And i'll give mine as well. It's free agent. Friday plus we'll punt on a free agent or two. We'll get your calls on this. That's when we're really going to open it up. Five o'clock hour it's friday. We want to hear from you. So if you're listening right now think about it. What free agent do you want. The bengals to sign money is no option here. money is no object. It is all about going after this guy because the bengals have cap space and you get to be the gm on the show at least for a few minutes while you call in and then who are you punting on in free agency five one. Three seven four nine fifteen thirty eight six six two three seven seven six time for your calls coming up in just a bit. Also we will Actually let let's just go here actually. Yeah we got this earlier in the show as we were getting some of these different free agents from different callers. And i forget taryn i forget who said this but someone said alan robinson and i totally get that but what i thought was interesting is what was it yesterday. I think it was yesterday. There was a report from aaron wilson of the houston chronicle. That will fuller a guy that the bengals were going to draft in the twenty sixteen. Nfl draft if he was there he wasn't got drafted by the houston. Texans a few picks before they were on the clock in the first round so they say pivoted. And they took jackson the third. And it's worked out but will fuller is set to become a free agent. The texans don't appear to be extending him in the coming days. And they will not franchise tag him and it was floated out by mike. Florio that well he could be a bargain in. I think this is interesting. I don't necessarily think it'll be a bargain. But here's mike florio on fuller so with that. Said there's a guy out there at receiver where they're gonna need some help. Who may be a bargain because of of still lingering. Pd suspension will fuller is going to be on the market and the bengals may be able to get him at a good price. 'cause i don't know that teams are going to be flocking to will fuller because of the suspension and because of the reality there ever he was using allegedly were actually and he got caught so he was using something. If you don't use that anymore maybe you're back to the guy who can't stay healthy but i could see we'll fuller being a guy make a run that would be interesting will fuller. Would they make a run at him. That's a guy. You're not hearing a ton about in cincinnati in rightfully so certainly had the production you look for is dealing with the pd suspension. He would miss week one. But man i mean you look at his stats from last year. Fifty three receptions eight hundred and seventy nine yards eight touchdowns in eleven games. He was averaging sixteen point six yards per catch. What are the bengals need. They need speed in. Don't take my word for because you don't want to take my word. Don't take taryn bland's word for it. Don't take my florio's work. Take bengals offense coordinator. Brian callahan's where at ford. He joined me and jake. Let's go on the lack on bengals last week. I highly highly suggest you subscribe and listen to it. Maybe even go back and listen all three parts of our interview with brian callaghan. But here's callahan with the bengals are looking at and looking for in a wide receiver. The first thing is you wanna get. They can run. You know we need some. We do need some speed and then those guys that both of these guys that you're seeing any more can all run their slow but yeah definitely agata. Connect construction sealed Opens be an esa where teams are concerned about it. They don't have to be for to rain like that. But just enough to be a concern for defense that draws attention the biggest manning for our receivers Smart receivers and we need more smart receivers guys that understand coverage understand route recognition understand conversions. Understand that the quarterback is really smart and we work at his pace. And so you've gotta be able to handle his his brain in his temple the way he wants to work and be able to see things. He sees him fast. Because that's what he expects and the intelligence part of it gets over overlooked because it's hard to quantify sometimes but it's smart receivers are very helpful. They can diagnose him probably. Two different intelligence is intelligence capacity. Learning the offense. I volume so guys like that. Obviously guys got some play outside. You know is true outside. You're going one on one type of guy tyler. Boys the best slouch even football s. Make another go out there and you can go win one on one pursue ever lines up against them really on whatever route that gets all so. That's the kind of the type of receiver that i think. Every team wants some some degree. But yeah i mean those would be ideal traits for those types of guys. Well there you go. A lot of that sounded like fuller. Now that does sound like a lot of guys by the way. Subscribe to the lockdown bengals podcasts. Because well i'm not biased or anything but that was a really good clip right like. I think that will fuller in again. A lotta guys fit that description but you know dhamar certainly does jalen. Waddell certainly does devante. Smith probably does like there. Are guys that do that but will fuller does and a lot of my free agent opinions have to do with the offensive line. And i think that's a lot of people right now but what does the bengals say. All right we're going to go get a couple of solid guards and a willfuller. Because we liked him a lot. Five years ago couldn't get them and we still haven't found that speed threat so we're going to go get him now and we can get them at a little bit of a bargain compared to what he would have made because the season was cut short in. Yeah he's had some injury issues and stuff but we're not going to be banking on him to be are one and we're gonna pay him the way the lions did marvin jones will pay him. Eight to ten million per i. I could see it. I could in. That's the thing is. I think the bengals have a ton of different ways. They can address their weaknesses and the only concern for me about drafting or signing a guy like fuller is. It's just enough money. Taryn where like the team would be like. We really need your marceca's do we really need your march. As even though he's the best player on our board or should we take response later in by the way that would make me cringe if they chase is just a better player right so so that would be the worry if you spend big on wide receiver and then you look at. Who's gonna probably be at the top of the bengals board with the fifth pick. If so isn't there in order it's like four or five skill guys in my eyes. I think it's like chase and then it's probably going to be waddell by had to guess or pits then waddell so those three chase pits waddell and then probably maybe smith all in that range and so you don't wanna take yourself out of that sweepstakes so that would be my big concern other than that. Listening to brian callaghan fuller fits that that bill. So he's a guy. Just keep an eye on especially if floreo said screw and you can get them at a bargain like if you could get him for eight to ten million per over three or four years a burner like that do it. But just don't let it impact your draft to too much because chases you wanna pass on the next I heard he was compared by the way the other day someone compared to march as an analyst. I i really respect says jomar chase reminded him a stronger antonio brown and i'm like damn 'cause they're about the same height five eleven six six six one six six foot dish in that range. But i really think about it. You don't think of antonio brown is like tyreek hill fast. We'll need there's chase but he's a really good route runner in and out of his brakes game. Play game changer playmaker. So that would be my concern. All right up next. We'll we'll continue free agent friday and we'll dive into it. We're ten minutes away. i can't wait tearing. i can't wait. Taryn bland is laughing here. Are you better have a good free agent. I've been hyping this up. Mines really damned good and no one suggested it yet. We've gotten by the way updated votes. Six callers have said. Joe tony once said taylor. Moton as who they would go all into side. If you say. Joe tony you get an f for creativity taryn bland. So we'll see if that's the case mine has not been mentioned and either has my punt. We've had people putting on. Jj watt in allen robinson. We'll continue the conversation next. I'm james or peanut from oh this is. Espn fifteen thirty seats. Aren you should have put together a free agent rap. Free agent friday rapped by the way to this will be fire that will be fine retina. Now well you gave me the lyrics. 'cause i was ready to go. I heard the be. And i was down the lyrics state county. I just rosa here here. The lyrics james irpin information this is. Espn fifteen thirty. Oh man we're We're gonna take scott hanging side. I'm gonna get you one second. We're free agent friday. Here's the concept calling. Give us one free agent. You want the bengals to go all in on and make sure they signed in one year putting on and we're going to do that and i want this packed in the five o'clock hour because we've had some guest we've gone to it in the three o'clock hour then we pulled out of it. We did some draft talk earlier this hour. Five o'clock hour. It is friday. This is what we're doing. Free agent friday for the next hour tearing an i next segment are going to give ours but scott in the west side europe up next one pm fifteen thirty. What's up. scott hey man. Sorry i'm at speedway trying to do with my kids describing sammy So i want them to get joe tuning and brandon sharaf brandon. Yeah sign those two and then the draft. They need to take cockpits. Because as much as i want today so convinced generational talent pets he. There's will destroy any. I mean twenty. Five percent of his catches we're touchdown a free. He's a freeze on guard. And and that offense you they can runs on. They can run. It does not matter with and you just throw it up to six to four. It's like watching lebron james. go ahead. What what free agent are you planning on i. Ponting yeah which one. Don't you want heard suggested that the bengals should go after. I don't want well for no offense to you. i don't either actually. He's on my list. I don. I wasn't big on him. I just don't think he's a dominant. I don't know he's just not a guy. I think i think you with what they've got. Now they add kyle pits. I i actually like this or the day smith but pistons just unguarded with you. There's not any He's defensive coaches nightmare. He will take them to the super bowl and they'll win with him. That's absolute truth. He just how you garden. What both guards though. That's the interesting thing i do. I want those cars spending thirty million on two guards. I'm just saying here's what they're their guards. Were the worst guard tandem in the league. No doubt no doubt about you. You upgrade that now you now you can move your guards in zone blocking and get quick off the ball so that they're not. They're not far away. I'm not saying. I disagree scott but i think some are wondering who's playing right tackle in this scenario psychotic. Who's the other. They need another tackle. The other guys north western. I don't like sean slater. because slater is. He was a he was. he didn't really well against chase yang. But i think there's other tackles you can grab but they've got to get these guards and create or at least one of them they have to fair. Gotcha take care. Have a good weekend joined the speedway. Thanks for listening. No i by the way. When i went in that fuller tangent. I just said i if it takes any of those other guys off the board chase with pets waddell. I don't want them so. Don't get it twisted here. But if the bengals are just going to address the offensive line and pass rush and not add to the wide receiver core and. I don't think that how you heard. Brian callaghan last segment. Say hey we need more speed. So i think they're going to address it but if you didn't well that's a nightmare for borough. They need more weapons. They don't have any that they don't have nearly enough right now whether you want acknowledge that or not but no i agree with you on pitt's being and i mock pits to the bengals and i think he's going to be high on the report so we'll see if it's if it's watson it's chase if it soule but you know what time it is now up next free. Agent friday continues. We're going to give in we as intern. Bland myself are going to give our free agents the one the bengals have to go after and then the two free agents. They should pass on james dean inform. Oh that's next on. Espn fifteen thirty ready for some football. We are this. Is dave laugh and you're listening to the home of the banks. Espn fifteen thirty. You came to the right place. Free agent ride a as teheran bland miles ear to ear someone down quick today gonna rise when free agency begins in a few weeks right over paul brown stadium dammit. Five oh five. On jane's being in for mo we got one more hour. And it's free agent friday and it's interactive and you're going to get our free agents in the second here's how it works. This final hour is going to be jam packed hopefully with bengals fans that want to chime in with my favorite game show. I don't know about you. This is my favorite game show. And i don't even know if it's necessarily the game show it's a you get to be a gm for three minutes on espn fifteen thirty. Well james and and are here show and this is how free agent. Friday works you call in at five one. Three seven four nine fifteen thirty eight six six seven two three seven seven six and you give a free agent you want the bengals to go all in on and signed and they have to go get him and that's it you don't care how much they have to spend if it's fifteen million bucks for guard or whatever it is this is the guy they need to go get and then a free agent. You're putting on to give you an example right now. We've had what six caller sage otani that he's the guy that they want the bengals to go all in on taylor moton has a couple of votes here. Jj watt punt couple votes for him in a couple of votes putting on willfuller and allen robinson. So make sure you call in five one three seven four nine fifteen thirty eight six six zero two three seven seven six. We'll get to you guys in a bit but taryn may get to mind in a second. I wanna reacted yours. There's a lot of pressure here. I've been building you up for the past hour and a half or so. So let's let's see here. What free agent. If you were the gm of the bengals go all in on signing free agency opens in a few weeks. So i i don't know why you have the people to get excited for my pig. Why not you should be excited. What what it better be. Good pick you about this for hours. You couldn't put together a whole free agent plan in hours beyond that people. Follow me on twitter today. No i'm just saying. But if i were the gm but the bingles for an money's not. He's not a factor. Well now they're forty million in cap space you paying from more than that. They have plenty of money. What i'm gonna. I'm gonna linebacker. Who anybody back and bring me. Anybody is better than what they have right now. Oh my god. The bengals were were fourth fourth worst defense last year they can't. They cannot stop the run. I mean obviously a big dj reader or leona seasons so that those key to but you're signing a damn linebacker. That's what you're doing. That's the big free agent with with with me. I'm going out or peninsula yes thank. i'm going linebacker. Thank you god. You're not jam. The bengals aligned. Who are you planning on then. Who you gonna pont o. J. what okay. Well that's an easy one everyone just kicking. Jj every big return three three to six fifteen thirty can't be high taking like you hot taking. I think linebacker is a hot take. I think it's an awful take. I think it's a trash i'm serious. You know why. Because the guy i'm putting on is arguably the top free not the top because labonte david's there by the way i would put on the david to pay thirty zero linebacker. I don't care that. He he guarded travis kelsey in the super bowl chavez. Kelsey still had a buck thirty first off second. Off that's not the difference. Oh overpaying for a linebacker when you're four eleven and one is insane in levante. David wasn't my guy was matt milano. There's no way. I would pay a linebacker right now. Are you serious. I can't believe you back linebackers now against each other and clearly i would win the battle because there's no way while this is your thing matt matt mojo like white play linebackers. I didn't say no. I didn't say name i'd say the back and it's it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if brian urlacher in his prime is starting to come down. I'm not spending big money on him. Maybe in his prime because brian or lacquer and is prime isn't available in free agency. You're you're spending ten to fifteen million bucks on a linebacker because that's what you're talking about if you're talking about david milano milano set to command like thirteen talking about the higher end linebackers if they signed a-line backer fine josh binds fun. Oh no no no not just by josh bonds. Fine maybe a leonard floyd paper. Leonard floyd more of an edge rusher though but depre- bud dupree edge. So he could if you're talking about education different the edges different. But if you're talking like this this linebacker this middle linebacker stuff matt milano coming in here lord like the bengals were in on joe schober last year. And that's when i was in cleveland i covered joe. Joe's fine right like he's a fine player. There's no way in how i would pay ten million bucks schober per year or whatever. It was that jacksonville ended up paying. Of course not well. That's what you just said that i know. Oh god i name. They need a linebacker in your putting on by the way i would rather pay. Jj watt seventeen million dollars per year then matt milano twelve or one of these linebackers entering their prime really not even close not even close. Maybe i'll give you my during the past five years. Jj watt was one of the best pass rushers and football last year. One of the best pass rushers and football last year played all sixteen games. That's what he's done. He's he's he's been healthy to of the last five years. Sure okay so as carlos you don't wanna keep him you're vikings would love to have carl lawson the the ends not one of our because i'm not got a lot of needs up. Their secondary is a lot of needs. Yeah you've got a lot of will come on. You got a lot of needs in in minnesota all right. Let's get to the free agent. I'm going after. And i would spare no expense here. Look the joe. Tony love get taylor moten. He was there. I get it. I don't think he's going to be there. The guy that's going to be there that wants to hit free agency that wants to break the bank. That is honestly it feels like signing him would be like really reminiscent of andrew whitworth and twenty after the two thousand sixteen season. It's williams if it costs you twenty million per season to sign trent williams. If you're the bengals what d- freaking new. He's an instant star. Not good player star at left tackle. This isn't wait on penny soon develops no. This is pay big money for a guy. Who's a proven commodity. Oh my god. He's going to be thirty three years. Old okay yeah. He's he's really struggling. He had a ninety two overall grade from. Pf last year. Two thousand twenty literally the highest grade attack on the league highest in the league so again when you're talking about protecting joe burrow think about what the rams did and what we've talked about over the past four years in cincinnati andrew whitworth just being dominant in los angeles it. It's funny i asked. I remember sitting in the bengals locker room actually standing but it looked like i was sitting because andrew whitworth is a giant and i asked like oh. Do you want to join a contender. And he's like here's like it comes out of nowhere like teams come out of nowhere and you could sign with them if you believe in their vision then they can go from four wins to twelve wins overnight. And that's exactly. That's exactly what andrew whitworth did with the los angeles rams and i think about that conversation a lot because when he took that three year thirty six million dollar deal and he was thirty six years old. A lot of people are like why would he go to los angeles. They're not gonna win there and guess what they were in the super bowl two years later. They're in the playoffs that year. So why wouldn't you spend big money. On trent williams. He's thirty three. Welby is playing still peak. Level didn't play in two thousand nineteen because washington in just the dysfunction there and there was a lot of things in there but ultimately fresh legs overall played in fourteen out of sixteen games last year. One game due to covid okay. A lot of players miss because of covid one he wrested. The the final game is a little dinged up in. The forty niners weren't going anywhere. That's my guy that's the go-to you get him. You put john williams at right. Tackle free agent friday. That's there's no way in home signing any linebacker pudding matt milano to some big contract about aaron. Bland cagey right now. That's what i call it. A way through. He would have katie right. Yeah and there are callers out there that would that would that would draft the kid from penn state fifth overall to. I'm not doing that. I'm not drafting. Mike parsons on off ball. Linebacker at five. I'm just. I'm not doing it. Not when there's so. I if if you if you thought of that. He's he's going to be the next. He's gonna be hall of fame linebacker. You're not doing it. Sure if he's going to be a hall of fame linebacker you don't know that especially if chases there there's just as good of a chance from our tastes ends up being famous lever so close so yeah again. I'm not putting a. They put so much so many of their resources linebacker last year. None in the offensive line no workout. It didn't worth fourth defense last year. I don't care if they give up. Fifty two thousand yards rushing yards extra. If they can't protect borough it's irrelevant. It doesn't matter it really doesn't in so to me like guard. Fine tackle fine. And i get it. You wanna look at players not position. Some and i'm fine with that. Just like i'm fine with signing a linebacker paying big money to one of these free agent linebackers like a madman who by the way. He struggled a bit struggle to bet ccording to pf. He still expected to buy you. Keep saying matt milano. Because he's considered one of the top linebackers available. That's why i mean that's and he's the guy he's my guy he's the guy that punting on if but but to me it's offensive like i could name a bunch of offensive linemen. I would rather have than any of the linebackers edge. Rusher bud dupree different. Leonard floyd different. But if you're talking about straight up linebackers and i would take a lotta lineman before that a lot of in. That's just that's it but so here's how it is. If you're just joining us james peanut from others as espn assuming that. Jimmy hart bigalow driven No i would take cal pits over any linemen. Not name pencil. Same thing goes for jalen waddell so so you got to get the line either way. You're basically what i'm saying is like you said trent williams i agree. He's a good. But you're saying you're spent you're going big freighter then you're gonna take offense a weapon either pits or may maybe so's there. They still might take him. Which the idea of trent williams on one side pennies on the other journal williams at guard has probably got joe burrow smiling. Because he's gonna have about twelve seconds to throw. I mean so so. May i mean there's a scenario where you still take soule but yeah i mean i think the top players on the bengals board outside of school. They're going to be skill. Guys i do i. I truly believe that now. You might get parsons in there somewhere. But i don't think he's going to be the top guy on their board at five i don't and they have linebackers that they do have to whether you like it or not develop because they like. I think it came davis. Gaither could still be good. I think. Logan wilson can be good. It's not like. I don't think they can be quality players in this league and i'm fine with adding linebacker find with re-signing a josh pines. But you don't want that you want to go swing big at linebacker lord. I can't believe that anyway. Let's get into free agent friday. This is where i want to hear from you at five one. Three seven four nine fifteen thirty eight six six seven zero two three seven seven six one free agent you want the bengals to go all out in sign in one year putting on your calls next or from. Oh this is espn fifteen. Thirty my guy. Ostriches text me terron any said hashtag. Fire taryn from gm. And i completely agree. I can't believe you're big free agent edition for the bengals would be a linebacker discredit passover. Oh oh lord shack here. Seven four nine fifteen thirty one eight six six seven zero two three seven seven six james. Oh this is. Espn fifteen thirty. If you're on hold. I'm going to get to each one of each and every one of you in if you're just joining us we're playing free agent friday bengals addition on this friday. Where the big free agent. I would sign. I would go all in on. if. I'm the bengals. Is trent williams. He set to test the market. He's the best left tackle arguably in the league. And i i would go all in twenty million per. Let's row big big guy. Let's go block for joe burrow. The guy on passing on is a linebacker named matt milano from the buffalo bills that some people have connected to the bengals pass. Pass pass so we want you to call in and give yours. Let's start in hamilton. Dave you are first up on. Espn fifteen thirty. Who are you signing if you were bengals gm games. I'm going all in on hunter henry. Wow i'm putting. Jj watt as well. Henry interesting aright. Think you can go any of the soul chase pits from there. The more weapons mayor you could do with henry. I mean i guess you could really what i feel like. We're pretty thin there. You've got question marks that with Jonah blank here. See james. Maybe obviously drew. Yeah yeah you stopped sample. But as a free agent i i think it gives you options there. I don't think you can definitely run to tie out there. I mean an offense with hunter henry. Jomar chase looks mighty mighty it. That's interesting we haven't gotten hunter henry yet. So so that's a good one dave. I appreciate you know problem. Thank you have a good weekend. You youtube take care. Wow under henry didn't see i wouldn't coming. It's still better than linebacker tarrant It's not necessarily a bad one just interesting. I don't necessarily think terrence take is bad. I mean there your opinions. That's why we want. We want your opinions today on free agent friday mark. You're next on fifteen thirty how you doing. Hey james i'm well. how are you good. Love the podcast here. There's a little outside the box. But joe tune for free agency but then i like the position hopefully chase in the draft but then my pocket is just a tackle free agency way to the second round. How deep the tackle classes on the box Maybe the taco the second round that whoever that is battle with the j. for right tackle i was kinda of thinking about what ben baby was saying about how the issues are more interior than the tackle. The tacos were okay. Joan on whoever the second round guy was i could see that mark. I appreciate the call i i agree with you. I think they could wait till round to to address the tackle spot if you're really upgrading at guard like if you have jona you've left tackle and you have to high end guard and you feel good about center. That's the thing is. Are they going to do those things. Right to where the only potential weaknesses rookie right tackle. Because if that's the case you could scheme around it if you need to because it's one spot it's not three and so that's the problem but Yeah i i wouldn't punt on a free agent tackle in like in my scenario with trent williams. I'm still drafting a tackle. Potentially in second round because it's jones backup could sit and learn who who knows. Injuries happen all the time so adding to it is certainly something that i'd be willing to do. Five one three seven four nine fifteen thirty one eight six six seven zero two three seven seven six. Get all the board. The free agent friday train mark. I'll get to in a second. But jake in middletown you're next up on. Espn fifteen thirty. Oh james i'm on now. Yes sir first off. I want to say i'm glad you're back in ohio and it was. It was good. It's good hearing you again. I appreciate that thanks jake. Of course. I wanna say honestly. I think this might be weird. I don't care about defense. i just want them to put all their money into offense own it. I do not care. I want them reassign lawson of course because he's the only defensive end that we have. But besides that i do not care about defense put all the money into ullivan's led borough sling it all day long. Baby let's go. That's all i care about who you signing though. Well i know. I'll be feel one tune but i don't i'd rather get it right. Tackle good right tackle. I don't know who's gonna be available now. A lot of people were saying that you know be Resigned or ten moton. Someone like that. But that's on unveiled and okay fine tuning at least make dolphins of line be good. That's all i care about birth funding on. You're putting on any defensive player in free agency. So i really don't care about defense right now no all right. I'm just asking i want. I want them back. But gotcha no jake. Jake i gotcha man. Go on offense. I'm not gonna argue with you. Because i get it. I totally get appreciate your car. Man take care. Have a good weekend. I mean that's that's it right. You got your franchise quarterback. Why wouldn't you go all in to protect it. So it's twenty million. For trent williams. Too much or ten million for daryl williams at right tackle. No hell no. It's not go get him. Go get proven offensive linemen and then you can address it in the draft. Whether it's the first round will or the second round with a bunch of guys third round. I mean you could find. That's the thing even if they signed tuning they're going to need to draft the guard. You can find one in probably around to round three. Maybe around for that could come in and be a guy really. Can i think. That's that's there's a chance that happens. You have to be aggressive in and get some quality pieces in there. Let's take one more segment mark. You are next up on fifteen thirty. Thanks for in free agent. Friday breezy friday. That thanks me on your games. Love the podcast. Love the tweets. Your frigging awesome dude. You're the man. I appreciate the kind words. Yeah yeah so. Definitely i I'm active on twitter. And i'm actually like i guess i follow Joe's unique sister and see re tweet a lot of my stuff about joe tuned coming to cincinnati. So they're gonna like awesome bides and i'm going on on One hundred percent and Suber pumped about him and super pump. That he's from the area and I mean what. What are your thoughts. What do you think the probability of him coming our way. I mean. I think if the if the money's right he's probably down like why wouldn't you want to block for joe burrow. Join an offense that seems to be on the rise. There are a lot of young pieces to like. I i so. I think that part is fine. The the question i have about tune isn't really him. It's one do. The patriots tried to keep them now. And if not that's fine then he hits free agency in the bengal should be interested to will the bengals be willing to spend that type of money on guard right. This is the same team that let kevin zeitler walk just years ago. Four years sixty five year sixty million think about that. Joe tuni is probably going to get four years close to sixty million like. That's probably what he's looking for a year. Less than what. The bengals willing to pay kevin zeitler. Who was obviously a first round. Pick a guy. They groomed in developed. So that's the part that worries me a bit but we gotta overpay to get these high caliber players. Then we got. Our messiah quarterback leftist Our water for them. you know. Yeah you know. I i i agree with you and i think that that mark and i appreciate the call and the kind words again if you go all in on guard like that or a tackle like that. I talked about perception earlier in the show that matters. It goes a long way. It goes along with joe burrow. It goes a long way with the way people view the franchise because right now man you look at. You're like man. The bengals lucked into in that. That's what people will say. Now i promise you that's what they're thinking outside of cincinnati. They looked into a quarterback. And they're not even willing to protect them so show that you're willing to protect them. Insure your quarterback that you're going to do so five one three seven four nine fifteen thirty one eight six six seven zero two three seven seven six james in from. Oh this is free agent friday where you call in and you give one free agent. You want the bengals to sign in one. You're putting on. Andy you're next up. What's up andy. how are you sir. i'm. Anne how are you doing very thank you for asking. I got a little bit of a different approach to it. So we're hopkins hurt. And i think that he'll be back by the start of the season. It sounds like i go. I go after. Korey lindsey from the packers. I spend my money there to. I get a leader at the center which is more important than i think. People give credit to share where hopkins comes back. I'm comfortable hindi and my right guard. I get stained back and they can my left guard. i take pits at five overall. And i'm hoping that. I can burg from notre dame falls into the second round and make him my left tackle kick joan right And and i think we've set ourselves up pretty well there For future and you and it's a deep deep offensive line draft so you can pick up a couple of things later on the draft. That may surprise you to be available. But that's for me. Where i go after because i just think that pets is to dynamic to go after Are not to go after. He makes me a little bit nervous being out a year. The double knee races. There's just something about than sit. Well not that. He won't be amazing but That's my approach. I miss a good center since we had bram back in the day And i think that needs to be dominant. I think lindsay can be that guy those additional piece. Yeah handy i liked. I appreciate the call. Have a good weekend. adding corey. Lindley would be ideal. Here's where i disagree with the plan when it comes to andy. I wouldn't pencil and try hopkins anywhere. Because i just don't know i would still go get a guard like the bengals. Signed lindley sign me up. It'll probably cost around eleven million per he's thirty years old still playing at a really high level. But that doesn't mean you can't go after another mid tier guard. You can still do that. Heck you could still. The bengals are forty million cap space. They can still go after. Joe tony and sign corey lansley. They could they. Could they have the budget to go after a a rick wagner at right tackle so just because you get lindsey and its target one guy and then punt on a guy so i get what he was doing there but i like it and i'm open to and that was the first time today that someone said corey. Lindley we got a lot for joe. Tony one for taylor. Moton one hundred hundred one for corey lansley. A lot of people putting on. Jj watt allen. robinson willfuller. matt dan. Hang tight i will get you guys on the other side. Do not hang up because free agent. Friday continues with matt dan and at five one three seven four nine fifteen thirty one eight six six seven zero two three seven seven six. I'm james pain this is. Espn thirty free agent. Friday rolls on happy friday to you. Hopefully you're starting off your week in on a good note with you till six o'clock james or ffynnon from here on espn fifteen thirty. Hey andrea are taryn. I think there's one st at you buddy andrea said all in on signing brandon. Scherf as part of friday. Okay go after top guard. He's putting on anyone who plays linebacker. So i'll give you as twitter so you could go after if you want little little shot at you there. We'll take shots at me other little shine off whenever you guys will get along anyway. Let's let's keep things going to be a part of free agent friday here for the next twenty seven minutes Five one three seven four nine fifteen thirty one eight six six seven zero two three seven seven six and is in reading dan. You're next up on fifteenth thirty man. I really like obviously going after. Leo's like you. You talked about. But i i wanted to be a little bit of a home. I went to arkansas. I love hundred henry. I think you know the injury history. Maybe a little bit of a concern but man. He is a great blocker as well. You know you can kinda if you're going to throw that money at trent. I don't know that he was. He would come to cincinnati. So you'd obviously have to over pain. But i think hunter henry would wanna play with joe burrow. I just you know sure You know and and you know. Putting on william jackson i mean anti lost an honestly again. I mean they could baby that athletes a voice of valuating for the negative acid out. What it about bengals. We're going to the next three hours. Ben baby sky homes and consistently perspective on friday. But really go all in like the guy said before bengals this offseason all about instead of frank on the net you active at four about type listed this show like riding it again. He's teams are well. Let's dive into it. He's going after one hundred. Let's dive in as we start this jackson talking about all day lodge. And we've probably had not one has punted on laws because really it's always citation. Jj watt listening right now. Heck in town on the iheartradio app across the country. Or whatever you're listening i guess what. We probably all agree about henry two votes. The bengals have a lot to if you want to chime in your candidate address them and they can't just do six thirty seven seven. They can't just do election. Tom this other thinking of and it's not good enough because i tell me much deficit got him. I man how you been. The bengals have something better. They haven't had in the mike brown. Welcome back i know it's over. Love your to catch straight ahead getting crushed and then they take carson. Thank you now. You're right it's been a wild ride. But i'm happy wack where it feels like here for sure. And he was never home franchise. It's an exciting time fire to fill in for the first time in years. So don't think you know it doesn't have the album feel about. Leadership is the intangibles. Dan factory with tom brady had went to austin foxborough and change the page style culture. Consider awful organising shield again tyre city on. Everything seems gamers plane. And you've got. Tom brady changes what they're doing. So whether it's trying to pick two out of the top four they're available line. It's because of talk about everything's new took whether title. I don't really care. What does it matter what happened in the ninety mad guide. You can get rid of this seconds. You might have challenging. Yeah i i'm with you on chase chases and it's not because he's a in the thing i love about him. Homema- got address. It needs to berlin linebacker. I was going to do that. Really hard to bring obviously changes in. He's just thought did it at nine thousand. Nine hundred people make traces nationally. It's very true when you talk about getting signing. I'm not sure he's happy he's there he would be making meeting bush. Yeah fresh icy national punt on guys. You're talking about a guy that's crazy. You're talking about a guy go any other wondering if bad number one of the world's nauseating people apparently bringing national media member profiles are wondering if borough was jackson fan. I'm much this lost. And i think this is one of the main holding back raising job early because it seemed like the entire. Nfl gears. here's a freak of nature. Is wrecking ball really. Got his coming back into batmobile. I wanna i wanna ross perot in their mixed line dash. There was a guys got. Probably i hear you tom. I appreciate it man. It's good to hear your voice injury. I this part of it. He goes like the bengals can make a lot of these moves. Like i'm looking at it. If you're just joining us we still minutes. But you know you got a lot of voters cagey a lot of people. Putting jj watt planning on alan robinson. Lindsay's a guy that's been mentioned. Peter shrinks can do all of these good show by the way they could sign lindsay. That's they can sign henry raising they can sign lindsay and it's been at least they could even sign the guy that people are talking they could signed carson palmer got injured a recovering from also keeping a calm. People are still saying the bengals got it right at the money's there the bengals got it right there so that so. This is an opportunity where we're is for mike brown. This is a true soaring long in. I was the organization draft a turnover. That isn't the only way they talk about the only way that's part of the campaign in haiku by the way james with is this is the produce free agent sees them actually change st louis pieces to change the narrative with because winning. It's a simple just when everyone starts. But how can they fifteen. I bet you. I bet you to be more than what it's like. I bet you skyline. And if i was ever going all with the guy doesn't have the leadership barely ask physically soft. You can do every because that's what you have to win again and you don't need the minister. Obviously but they'll add another weapon in a guy who had defensive player game every once. You're going to add a veteran daniels who i've tied to eleven and one about signs in august and people for phone calls seven four nine one eight six six seven zero two six. Got it when you have fun. How long it talk next right here on these guys to realize billy price describing and he was on the bengals boot podcast. I didn't give you my listening to him. Describe it's a show borough next time i'm in the moment on the i've another filling for most guys go. They scheduled where they heard this jersey. Ma- maybe i got he's thrown with. Espn fifty i. Think that wrapping up my asian bride unfortunate injury where. We've gotten a lot of suggestions. Certainly favorites some among banks. Let's take another one here. And maybe i'll let you can see reach out at five hundred. Four hundred fifteen. Set it up in green us home agent friday before you walked right. Are you along for me. Just usually that'd be used to continue leandro joe's everybody even like you said he's an beer if we can get he is houdini. Because that's what. I really like him. Just twenty three million probably talking about it that he stays san francisco wants to see so. This is the part where the bengals have to get comfortable here and spend. But joe is i look at trent williams versus the impact of again. Dj reader and trenton. Trae ueli price on the bane. They spent more than twenty. Something million on upside is huge. Because it's rose blind side and then you have your writing the offensive line. Getting proven offense spending money spending it in the right places bengals add the cap space is going to million probably more depending on salary caps. The bottom line is they have space at all flexibility halloween to spend last offseason on what's going on. I'm tara improving guys in there because it gives you the best player availability that chance. Stand up everyone around from the coaching staff at times. It's so certainly the offense always. I will say this. I think he doesn't have to be tell by seven years people alleged dragging. Ross just isn't ready yet. Pared down to the so. I'm not trying to think that mean or rude tillerson upgraded this bengals in the add to your lifetime opponents. They're one of those guys who much talent on jefferson pilot who wants four weeks out the cold on a lot of money because that's quarterback draft wouldn't have happened. Guess what this. Mike brown has a chance here. Overseas organization has start to script. I think he's great. Starting to turn the page i think in that doesn't start tackling agents could today on. Espn with out for the next two hours. Yeah sure we're going to get into ride even better than here on espn. I agree to call five one. Three seven hundred seventy two three seven seven six at james repeat but i would much rather because it's been wild and i haven't talked to you since even if you don't live anywhere. Sure when i want you to gain free appreciate the guy this guy. Because he's going to change fifteen million or twenty million for the guy they should glad you are on the flip side has been fun. This is call rage and friday. Give the bengals to get taylor. Moton has has one i picked. I want you to rent so give me and we just got to vote for rage. Air pass to the bengals lot of people passing on and i had a segment. We don't this guy. I don't wanna spend place for. Jj watt. because. If i do do then it's going to. It's going to hurt. Are you kidding me. That's what i want. Because this this i watched. Jj watt today eight six six seven hundred twenty seven seven hundred. Twenty one to your calls is free agent. This idea that he can play outside. Easterling is start to give worth a damn. I'm james see look at you. You're getting me into it of by moyer show is what we should call it. I get it. The banks have so down but including free agent. Friday green bay on. Espn games help haram today today in a lot of been about twenty eight wiping missing pete. What free agent you want. The bengals aren't all in on but once again. That's how i think. A lot of teams are viewing him. So then what free agent are you just interested in. So many people down on of the bengals or suggested the bengals china. Would you guys say about what i'm asking you at five one. Three seven hundred eighty eight six six seven. Oh time james says it's been a lot of fun. Shout get it going. Free agent friday sanjay. I'm back at it every single day. Tackle from bengals olga me down the reds free agent breakdown to me like they make. I think joe mullen is available in free agency. I'm worried the panthers are going to extend it'd be. I agree with you. I think you'd better be with this. Hunting guys. check out the locked on bengals. Her took jason competent. Well i mean awfully someone younger for less money. That'd get the next one. Return james so right here. Spend the money. Obviously he's the perfect guy but we get more tackled. Think hey chat. I actually don't think you're in the minority of bengals fans. And i appreciate you calling and leading us off here on free agent friday. I put out the idea of. Jj watt at all bengals dot com yesterday and the majority of social media. And i get it. It's a small small sample size in the grand scheme of things. They were not on board with giving. Jj watt big money. Let's keep free agent. Friday going by taking a trip downtown. Jeff you're next up on. Espn fifteen thirty. What's up jeff. Hey games i think during name wrong actually. Justin pretty good going pretty good. It's all just like probably majority everybody else's talking Joe tony obviously would be the one that i would double down on and say that the crown jewel of the free agent class that you need to go. After now that he will elevate the entire offensive line play a let's say a joiner williams I know people are talking. Trae hoppy the center but kind of an unpopular opinion. I still believe in billy price. So i know it's kind of not really. Hey hey free agent friday. You're allowed to give your opinion. Keep going of course of course definitely. But you know i heard is Talking to Bengals booth podcast with dan. Hoard and david lapham And it was. It was great and honestly i just like they billy price. We kept trying to left guard and right guard where he's not a guard. He's the center. But you know for now trae hobbies. I think joke. Elevate the entire line play. Not necessarily by himself. He's still have to make additional moves. Like a daryl williams at right tackle But then as far as the free agency that i will punt on is our robinson i know. Everybody's rubs to the bengals. I think he's very talented. I don't wanna warned him that much money. I personally would be also going after tomorrow. Chase with the number fifth overall pick. He is going to elevate that entire receiving room and maximize the talent of joe burrow. Talking chase right marci icy robinson. It does probably take you out of the marching sweepstakes correct. I need to do at the compass. One of the main things James that i've always said about the dawn and aj green era is the best way to opponents. Always game plan for the bengals offense was neutralized. Aj green and make any dog also with the ball and that was always accessible with tomorrow. As he literally elevates the entire receiving room of tee higgins and tyler boyd and him whereas you don't know who's going to get the ball because either one of them pop up one hundred and fifty yards and two touchdowns in the game because joe burrow's just that good. it's just a perfect match But yeah that's all porno allen robinson. I wanted to give a bonus when here too because every time. I hear the conversation between karloff. Or william jackson. It's just it's called often by a mile. I think this is gonna sound popular. I don't miss anything. If i'm popular you might be able to. You know to let me know on it. William jackson the third. I think the bengals just need to understand that. Hey he can go ahead and walk. Because the franchise tackle. We'll do no. Good with william jackson in my opinion because he's going to plan a lot of money and you can answer it honestly james. Is he really the best wide receiver indian tire. Afc north division. Cornerback back yes. I'm i'm trying to work here now. Marlon humphrey is in the division. So that's obvious. Ryan ball now is probably better nelson. Y- i i get it. I think man. He's really really good. I just want to trap themselves in overvaluing their own player. Where i i think i heard you say it is on a baseball. Podcast wants Go like ronald darby. Maybe a from the cowboys and maybe invest in the pick of foreigners. Samuel junior and alexander and honestly. I think you're secondary has sort of play out very finally because everybody's going to have a wide variety of skill set whereas we're leaning our hopes and dreams. William jackson is going to continue to play at a good level where be honest. He's never made a pro. Bowl is not all pro. And i just don't want to get trapped in value even guys where somebody else going to pay top dollar for We'll get visits. Pick back from them. I think we'll be fine that way. Also so gotcha. That's my thing. I appreciate adjust and there. There's a lot there But his he's putting on alan robinson signing joe tony. We're going to get to another call in just a second. Let me react to the carl lawson william jackson the third point first things first. I reported earlier this week. That kara lawson will be franchise tag by the bengals. That's the plan if if they can't get a long term deal done so we'll see if that happens to. I still believe keeping william jackson. The third but i am open to the idea since he will be twenty eight years old. What's the alternative. If the alternative is taking a cornerback. Caleb farley with the fifth pick. Well i'm punting on that right. I'm not going to create a need by not keeping someone that we've developed if i'm the bengals and then addressing it with the fifth pick. That's a nightmare. You're no better at best. You're the same. If for lease is good as jackson as a rookie. That's not the way. I'm doing it now if it is signing a free agent. That's okay in going. After proving commodities that might be close to jackson. You can sell me on that idea. Especially if you're going after these top free agents which i'm guessing on free agent. Friday drew in pleasant ridge has a free agent on his mind. Drew you are next up on. Espn fifteen thirty. Yeah hi More or less concerned. I wanted to know why the patriots don't want joe tuning like what's what's the negative side him. Why don't they want to do it. Well we're on franchise you would think if he's great stand out of its surviving. They would keep them. They've been no brainer one. Won't they keep them. Is it a money thing. Potentially a money thing but they have a lot of cap space and it really just depends because i did hear earlier this week that there is a chance that joe. Tony just resigns. They're in they do have the cap they didn't last year so that was a big part of it. They didn't last year. They were trying to move him. And i think it might have been you know. You don't wanna overpay for guard which is something that the bengals certainly have haven't done in the past. So that's part of it too. So i think that the patriots probably open to it but they might wanna see what else is there but they certainly have the money to recite it. There's no doubt drew. So so that is. That's a fair question and i totally get where you're coming from there especially because i think a lot of people so far we've taken to calls and both of them said joanie was there the the star i haven't given mind yet but they're goto and free agency and he is not mine. He's on the list but he's not my number one. Yeah i think you're going to get call after call and they're going to say that and i just this is probably the most important signing in in the franchise's history and it has to be right so the questions like that you know. Why doesn't fifteen want him. If they had them for four or five years they have to be. Can they have to be answered. The more we make the signing. I appreciate the call. Those thank you appreciate. You have a good weekend. And that's it's interesting. I'm still down for joe to anybody. It's not like i'm not going after joni james pnn from oh this is espn fifteen thirty and eleven minutes. Ben baby espn dot com going to join us taryn. Can i take one more. Can we do that. And then we'll get the ben. Okay i gotta make sure see. Here's the thing it's been a while. I gotta make sure the clock. I'm keeping up the clock so if you want to chime in we're gonna continue to take these free agent. Friday calls at five one. Three seven four nine fifteen thirty eight six six seven two three seven seven six but up. Next is my guy greg in madeira. He's on with us now. Greg you have been on. Hold for a while. I appreciate your time a man. Hey james longworth the white man how you been doing. But i've been doing well. What about you hanging in there hanging. Let let me just say. I'm about to go to get somewhere. And i'm gonna camp out of jim. Thome and middletown ohio. And i will say there kelly signs and all that i mean. Obviously i'm sure you've probably heard about this rumored golden. There's a pandemic going on. If you're going to get close to make sure your mashed up. I got mad. 'cause all that james don't worry about it. I'm gonna stay this front yard. That does all that. But i mean it just makes all the sense of the world rumor. Has you know he wants to play close to home. And all that i mean but the also i hear you know. He obviously wants to get paid. So i mean is the gift i'm gonna be handed to us. Wants to come here. Because he's not too far from here. It just makes so much sense. And you know what i mean. I know the bengals don't believe in paying guards but you know you look how borough got hurt with because of a guard and all that and i'm sorry the browns. They were great team because they like the best guards handed in the league. Literally and all that you know you look at other teams it is. The time is now to start paying a guard guard matters. There's no doubt about it. greg. I will not downplay that and i will not be critical of the bengals if they invest in guard. There's no they had the worst guard play in the nfl last season. I think that's fair to say even before birth injury like it was brutal and that you know certain guys helps kazoo. Su'a filo coming back and clinton spain and enrollment showed signs at times but overall as a group through six sixteen games it was just it was rough to watch so all right so you have tutti as the free agent. You're signing. What free agent are you putting on. That has been connected or mentioned or suggested to the bengals. Well he's not gonna have any cynically You know what i really think about. But i tell you one guy is trying to say and i it wilson. I don't want any part of isaiah wilson or anything. And all that i heard he had. He had an attitude issue from the tennessee. The bengals rumored and wanting to draft him. But i i know he's never been mentioned. But any part of isaiah wilson. If i know he's not a free agent they're trying to trade him but that one guy i want no part but i wanna ask you one more question and all that you i mean. Obviously chasing penny sewell are talked about. Here's the thing james i. I don't wanna like him too much because my biggest fear is we have to prepare. You have to prepare for the fact. Both those guys can be gone. I mean let's face it. It's not realistic. For quarterbacks are going to get fifty four five. They're not. That's going to happen greg. hundred percent. yeah you got so you have to repair you. Know what do you do if both taste and sore off the port. Where do you go from here. That's my biggest worry. Yeah sure and that's that's kind of my been my thing greg. I've put out three mock drafts. And all bengals dot com so far. I'm kinda do every other week before free agency. Because i think it's hard to mock pre free agency and chase and soul have both been gone all three before the fifth. Pick i to me. I two quarterbacks in the top top four. I have chasing soule because i think they're the best players in maybe one calls but if not to me and this is why free-agent friday so damn important. Yeah i'm taking one of those skill guys. My man i'm not reaching on slater. I'm going after waddell. If they if they like him the best or pits if they like him the best or devante smith that they like in the best. And that's it. And that's assuming you're not trading down but i can't predict trades. It's impossible to do that me. I'm adding something. I'm getting some kind of help for joe burrow and i think those guys are going to be ranked ahead of rashawn slater on the bengals board games that you never both huge john. Ross fans but man. My biggest fear is what a while. We're smith turns out to be another john rock. I've been that man. I'm all for the fact that that kind of hear you at all. No it does greg. I appreciate the call pechanga. Let's see can sponsor we gotta get to break has been babies waiting for no. I don't think that. And i think that ross was again looking back. I don't think the evaluation was necessarily wrong. But if you look at devante. Smith the top schools were trying to guard him and double triple team and he was still getting open like the last thing i want in. That's the scary part. I think for for bengals fans right now when you talk about a receiver or a skilled player even a kyle pits with the fifth pick. They think of ross in to me as scary as that is. Why wouldn't you think of aj greet because if you talk to. Evaluators is high. As i was on raw they have higher grades. Much higher grades on chase on pits on on on any of these guys smith waddell. They have higher grades on all formal in. So that's why would i would think of. Aj green like rookie impact. Not not john. Ross or any of the other picks that haven't worked out because it hasn't worked out and that's fair to admit i. We'll get back into free agent friday. You can tweet me ask james dean five one. Three seven four nine fifteen eight six six seven zero two three seven seven six but up. Next who ben baby of. Espn sign if he could add a free agent to this bengals roster. I'll ask him in so much more when he joins us next right here on. Espn fifteen thirty. Three thirty nine james dean. In for mo- this is. Espn fifteen thirty with six o'clock. Welcome in our first guest of free agent. Fridays name is ben. Baby makes you follow him on twitter at ben underscore baby might have the best name in in cincinnati. Sports i would say probably arguably debatable. Either way he's he's on with us. Now ben my man. I haven't seen you since the season ended. How you doing abdul. I'm honored that on on today. When you're hosting you gotta pick of any of the bengal analysts that if are not there are many of them that are not be so the fact that you use on straight to the bottom of the barrel to find the death may on. That's right i I was like all right. I did a name ranking and then you were at the top of the list so that that's where that's how i got you. That's what it was nothing to do with your bengals analysis. I'm just kidding anyways. I don't know if you if you've been listening. I appreciate you for flexible being flexible in bumped yourself back twenty minutes here for me. It's free agent. Friday here ben and i've been asking listeners. If they could sign one free agent and have the bengals sign one free agent. Who would it be in. Then on the flip side one free agent they would punt on. That's been connected. Or tied or rumored or talked about in any sort of way when it comes to potentially coming to cincinnati and free agency. So i didn't give any Any update or or anything like that. This is off the cuff. I'm putting you on the spot. Do you want to participate in free agent friday and if so who would you sign. Sure i mean this is less scary than any other questions you might be able to ask. Those are listening. James and i sit next to each other and there are some around there that would be going so maybe they come up here during this is what i think. It's tough for me to figure out who exactly i was like They would be a good fit for the bengals. Obviously a lot offense love joke dooney able to come up on the market if the wing lesson. Go i think he was pretty well. I think you need to get it going. I think more than attack who a guard is really a division point here. I'll be honest. I guess here's a take really that upset with bobby. Hogwash your washington play. I thought bobby response Jonas fine i think the bigger issue by mars with regards to be quite honest quitting sprayed with serviceable brazil serviceable but never really have right combination. Now they will have a new office applying so afraid colleges that may change a lot of things. Ready buni one A her john reynolds a saint thrown around. I covered him and now he's really good people. I mean i always been one good ball and it was a five nine ball to hundreds of josh reynolds and reynolds more or less content. Every time Great guy from san antonio area. I used to come high school and i think that it would be a good obviously knows that they were system very well punting on a guy. I haven't been a lot of names to be honest. Been connected that don't make sense and partly because a lot of help wanted just about anybody. A lot of physicians would be an upgrade Then you go so you punted on the punt idea. I like it. That's ben baby. Espn joining us. Let's let's continue here. Because i think it's such a a crucial offseason and you're right. I mean really. You could sell me on you. Go get joanie. And you get josh reynolds. Or you go get alan robinson and you signed to capable guards in the new japanese pennzoil like there are probably fifty. Do fifty two different ways. I think the bengals can solve it but to me. And i know they're gonna look at edge rusher and i know they're gonna look at defense at least I'm worried about number nine and keeping nine upright and giving him as many weapons as possible to throw to. If you really fast track. Joe burrow's development. I think that would be my focus especially coming off the injury is. Is that where you are. How do you view free agency draft as a whole for this bengals team because they have holes i've everywhere they're not gonna be able to fix everything to me. I would prioritize and go all in on offense. I think you know me. i love me. Some offense defense is highly overrating just from taxes you do this points and won the game. Seventy to sixty three and it has happened. And i've seen dancing if he would've football game w sixty three. You'll find a way to make an avid. I agree with you to an extent. I think that You do need to give burrows some help and in some good options. That's why i like kyle. Pennsylania is so much fun to watch. I think he would look great with that. They were trying to do when you look at how. He's up the guy that i think. It would be a lot of fun to see him if brian callaghan. Move loop all over the field. I think jalen waddell is going to be phenomenal the nfl. I think what he does. An open space is really unprecedented. I mean you cannot i mean. There's there's pumper had get the lsu work that you do not get him down. I mean he's capable to take to the house on any given play and really no player in college football as that ability. Like a lot of this More so than device more so than thuan chase the my opinion but for me. The big question in rushing for a couple of years as soon as the side of the ball and they really do need to continue to be aggressive and figure this out but one position that they quite for you for years. I mean look at the last decade. Still pretty new to town numbers. They relied primarily rapid gina. Lack is to be the bulk of their pass. Rush on the defensive line. There's no longer here we're not. We're not sure what's going to have gino if he's back or not either way. I think it's fair to question what. Gino has less given the injury history and his age. You really need a bigger than everyone is one thing. Everyone's asking about watson is kinda bengals bring him back. are we really sure. Karloff wants to back in cincinnati. I want to call into question first because you think about it everyone around the week. You're saying this guy could be great only five and a half sacks last year when i watched that was so i think they're rushing the call. Get same money elsewhere. We want to be told he's not here today this year rather another problem there. 'cause you do need that position so i think for me of the primary focus created the you gotta get one of the three open you know. We would think on the offensive line between either no fat. You which really got to figure out what you're doing. I was lost him. And then you know you got to figure out what you're looking for jackson for there you got to move forward mean we're looking at. What are we doing middle linebacker last year. When they signed. John ryan's i don't think they expected him to be started the whole season. Ready defined vote. There are a lot of questions that need to be answered. There's no doubt about that ben baby. Espn joining us for a few more minutes here on espn fifteen. Thirty james dean in for mojo ben at five souls. there is at the no brainer. You running to the podium. Does free agency matter at all. I've heard it a lot. Just run to the podium and a lot of fans feel that way it is not that black and white to me but is it for you know always h-honestly it's it's i think there is some you you could ask. A question of another guy would be because like i said last year watching the tackles. I never had a massive issue with how the taxes. But i think the question can tear about line. I think that was the journal. Kept shuffling the deck and they never found any consistent with politics You know we may see different result and you know. I think it's off the board. You have a lot of interesting options. And i think a lot of the things that we saw to burrow in the past protection. What is internal clock got better and he was under pressure. I mean granted we saw the plane was when she got. That wasn't on the so. I understand why sued there's gonna be commodity You know there's not really. A lot of true left tackles anymore periods in there. There may be sure as the years. 'cause i don't think it's a cut off so he look at what you do. Is you address need to agency. I don't think there's anything wrong with exploring the best way to help burrow because it's not just office on the office of wine it'd be better duties better options on the edges also against him released who plays and works together so no. I don't think there was just one right answer. I think there's a lot of positions that number viable. You can say okay. That makes sense that you guys. Do i agree with you. I like look at us much. We agree a lot in the in the press box. I can't even remember during the season or were you did. We are debating a lot to feel like. I feel like we had our debates. I think what happened is getting obviously the game into third quarter. We just pick something argue about it. We just do that until the middle of glad we can find the middle layer for one. Yeah it feels like it. Make sure you follow ben on twitter at ben underscore baby checkout his work. Espn dot com. Ben i appreciate your time. My man off. Well forget jerk be weighed in twenty days way dirk in two thousand six which was much more painful for you. Have a good one. I can't believe he brought that up. That damn mavericks fan. I was so damn pissed. The quick twenty seconds. Ben and i so he's from texas. I'm a huge fan. We talk nba all the time and he always brings up his mavericks. Who locked into luka doncic. Because the sacramento kings are ridiculously an awful franchise and passed on luca in the atlanta. Hawks thought that trae young a first round pick was better than luca. stupid ridiculous. absolutely asinine anyways. James are in from. Oh this is free. Agent friday here and in fourteen minutes. Perception is reality when it comes to the bengals and it's okay to admit it. We'll get to that coming up at four zero three james opinion informal. Cspan fifteen thirty terrence killing this music as always. Just wait till i give you my requests for the five o'clock hour taryn my heat. It might hate it. I'm gonna switch it up. I'm gonna make it a little different. I'm gonna sound a little different right. That's what we're supposed to james promote with you till six o'clock three agent friday which means i'm asking you to call in with one free agent you want the bengals the sign and you want them to go all in on signing one but you wanna pun on five one three seven four nine fifteen thirty eight six six seven two three seven seven six. Let's go to oregon where bill is next up on. Espn fifteen thirty. What's up bill. Shine james aren't you. i'm well how are you. i'm doing is saying. Hey i talk. Welcome back to cincinnati Really enjoy having you back. It's good to hear your voice on the air talking. Dangles again thank you. It's good to be. Yeah definitely my top choice would be And i don't think he would be available taylor. Moton would be my absolute number. One choice agreed. I think it would be a serious upgrade. That's that's a fair. i think he's even if he's not your top choice. I think he's the best fit like he's instantly a pro bowl level right tackle right instantly because i think you could find upgrades at guard for less. I really do. I think it's harder to find a franchise right tackle and during his prime like mode. Yeah in that regard in terms of guard. I would stay away from sheriffs and and the kid from dayton. You don't want because of their price tag right at fourteen fifteen million. I'd rather go with. Larry warford or math. Feeler from pittsburgh you know more than the seven to ten million dollar range and maybe that leaves you enough money over for like a rick wagner for seven million. I don't know why the bengals aren't signing him right now down on a contract today. I'd have him on the team Or maybe a trade for rob having signed for seven million a year for the next two years but yeah i just I think otherwise. It's money too much. I wouldn't mind according linzie for ten million a year To say that kind of You know at the center. I think that's a more reasonable price. But would be you know being in a very valuable upgrade number one in the league versus hopkins. Which was you know. Even when healthy he was yeah. He's a he's an average average starting center. No i agree with you and i think lindsay. I'm not saying the bengals are going to go after him. But it wouldn't shock me. It wouldn't shock me at off there in the center market just a little bit if they at least peek their head in and see if lens lease interested in in coming here. I wouldn't be be surprised at all. I get you i i see where you're coming from and that's the thing with like joe tony as much. Outcries there has publicly. I'm not sure that the bengals are going to be as all in on that and not that they won't be i don't know but i'm not sure given their history that they're going to be all in on spending fifteen million bucks on guard. Yeah i'm not mad if they if they did right. I mean i certainly think the line this is definitely needs upgrading. But i just don't know that's the best value for your money. You know As you know it was like joe mixing Not very good value for your money. I would have paid more than eight million a year And i'm worried about the same thing. For william jackson i think he's better probably than You know who we signed last year at fifteen sixteen million a year. But i don't wanna give them that kind of money. If i could get for twelve sure but i don't want another drink kirkpatrick situation where i'm sitting on a contract for two or three years on somebody who's not producing it. They're kind of money. Sure ni- gotcha bill. I appreciate the call. We're up against that. Take care now for the kind words bill. In oregon free agent friday continues next and man perception is perception is perception is reality when it comes to the bengals but the good news is they could change the future. That's next on. Espn fifteen thirty. No one covers the bengals play. Espn fifteen thirty cincinnati's sports station. Sounds like steve carell. Kids pretty lame. I've never watched the office that show but you in school and set your kids kids up in canada watch michael scott michael scarring anyway. Go on about the office forever. I haven't seen it since it went off now. Sad day that james pianissimo does. Espn fifteen thirty nfl. Draft bible in fifteen minutes as free agent. Friday continues in one hour. Because that's the thing we got by the first hour. No one asked me who my free agent. Friday was who i was going to go after who. I would break down every door. If i was the bengals to sign in what free i would pun on. So we'll do that in one hour. We'll get taryn bland's in one hour and we'll continue this as it's it's gloomy. Dammit taryn sunny minute ago now. It's all gloomy here in kenwood. And but but that's okay. It's okay because it's free agent friday and it doesn't matter as we continue to talk bengals here chime in at five one three five three seven four nine fifteen thirty eight six six seven zero two seven seven six. I think i was about to give you my personal cell phone number there. That's why. I hesitated glad i did. Anyways let's talk. Let's continue with this. I posted something on all bengals dot com today. And it's a site. I edit i published and there were th- there are a lot of people that dismissed it because of who it came from. And i want you to hear the audio and then i want to address the audio in address the perception. Because i think that this off season is gonna go a long way. In determining the path that the bengals are going to go down over the next few years in this joe burrow era and first. let's start with this clip. Courtesy of mike florio and pro football taw. The bengals spend big from time to time on strangers to the organization but overall the team has a long standing reputation for being extremely careful with money and they may be looking for some bargains in free agency. Just because they have that cap space doesn't mean they have to spend it all like no other team the bengals identify success as money in versus money out and they know how to turn a profit and they're very happy when they do they don't care about championships they care about making money and just because they have cap space doesn't mean they're going to burn it all they they like to have that cap space. They'd like to keep that money in their pockets. If they can't there's only so much you have to spend under the salary cap and it's a four year rolling average in every dollar that you don't spend that he's earmarked for the cap is raw unadulterated prophet and the bengals understand that like no one else. I took that transcribed. I put it on the site in people. Well they got mad at me and then they dismissed florio and i don't care if you dismiss florio. It has nothing to do with that in. I'm not saying everything he said was right. Because i think part of it will die every damn in. The league wants a bargain. Of course every single team all thirty two of them would rather find bargain free agency that work out and play well then overspend on crap. Of course will die. That's i mean that's obvious so. Yeah the bengals would rather do that. But that's the perception. That's the perception whether you like it or not. Outside of cincinnati and sometimes in cincinnati is that. Yeah i are. They really all in on winning. Let's just cut the spending part because the bengals spend they. just don't. they're not over aggressive in free agency. Which is where they probably need. Not even probably they need to be this offseason. And that's where we go to. Don't let the past the ninety s the carson palmer failed years and that's what they were the past five years of andy dalton even the first five years right where it was playoffs. And that's it letdown heartbreak january. Every single one sucks right. That doesn't matter now. none of that matters. And what mike brown. What the bengals do today. Moving forward can change everything. It can impact that that perception it can change the reality it can change at all in. The reason is job earl. You got them now. You need to show him that you're going to do whatever the hell it takes to win because the nfl is changing. And if you don't see it look around in open your eyes a little bit more. It's becoming more and more like the nba. Because quarterbacks realizing i'm just assuming maybe not just as powerful but close powerful is the bron james and the only reason they're not is because of the franchise that but aaron rodgers minutes. After tom brady. Kick this tail at lambeau. Openly questions is future with reporters knowing what it was going to start. Does shawn watson asks out adamant continues to ask out by the way still asking out as of yesterday. When he met with texans brass russell wilson who seems like the most kindest guy in the world right after every interview. He does go hawks. he's unhappy and while he hasn't demanded a trade he's politely given the seahawks four teams that he would waive his no trade clause to go to the bengals. Yeah they could sit on their hands and not be aggressive in free agency. But guess who's watching every move. They make joe burrow and at best. You have him for six more seasons. If you don't show him that he's the man in that you're going to give them everything that he needs an could want to succeed. And where did this standard start. Why did all these quarterbacks start to feel this way. Because tom brady just trailblazer the path. He laid out the path he made. The path created the pass and he executed it england. He was unhappy there the past couple of years even when they won the super bowl in two thousand nineteen when he threw for five hundred yards and twenty eighteen. The patriots didn't pont in because he got sacked in the fourth quarter loses to the eagles because the patriots didn't have enough. He was sick of it sick and tired of it so he said i'm going to get out i'm going to leave. Restructured his deal with new england. They allowed him to essentially say they put in the deal. That he can't be franchise tag and then he went to tampa. And what a tampa do. They gave him everything he could want. Leonard fournette. We'll go get him rob gronkowski. We'll go get him antonio brown we'll go get. What else do you want. Gm tom brady. It's a now all these other quarterbacks. Like well i want that. I'm i'm as good right now is tom. Brady is a forty three. That's what russell wilson's thinking in russell. Wilson statement i've been playing behind a patchwork offensive line at tom. He's playing in front of a really good line tristan wharfs. They went out. They they use the twelfth pick. I believe it was on a guy like that. He's the top rookie tackle. They go out. And in. meanwhile russell wilson's seahawks trade two first round picks for a safety not a receiver. Not an offensive lineman a safety. You gotta show joe burrow that you're willing to go all in here who gives a damn what mike florio things who cares with the perceptionist but that doesn't matter completely irrelevant but what does matter. Is that you show. You're all in on winning two. Who number nine joe burrow. Because everyone knows he's good a of people think he can be great well right now and he's not feeling sorry for himself in a testament to him. Because i'd be really really angry. After what i did after ten games and i go down with an injury like that. Especially if the bengals don't go all in spend money on proven commodities in put proven talent around me this offseason. This is the bengals chance. This is why it's free agent friday. They gotta be active. There's no that's it because if not and you go out and you win. Six games next year in borough takes a bunch of hits again and even if you get pennzoil he's still gonna take a bunch of hits if that's the big that you have on the offensive line and he takes a bunch of hits. That's going to be noted and now the clock is ticking. Three more years on that rookie deals zooming execute the fifth year option to franchise tag years tick tick tick tick tick tick the the way. The that these quarterbacks the power that they have they're starting to feel. It isn't going to end. This isn't going to slow down the idea of quarterbacks forcing the way out and things changing i think it's going to pick up. I think this is the start of a trend in so if you truly think in the bengals do and i think a lot of people do listening right now. Joe burrow's that dude. You have no choice. Spend gopi aggressive. Go get the pieces. Go get the parts go win and if you do all those things if you're aggressive in free agency and you draft well and you make joe burrow happy then that negative perception flips that perception. Everybody's talking about if you have a star quarterback that's happy it flips it changes in you feel much much different about the organization much different. There aren't going to be people that say that stuff that say that the bengals don't wanna win that they're in it to make money that winnings always secondary that changes it completely ends it because joe burrow's leading the way it's obvious he's all in on winning and the bengals are willing to do whatever it takes to give him the tools necessary to succeed. It's that simple. five one. Three seven four nine fifteen thirty eight six six seven two three seven seven six. That's how you put the perception of bed. You don't complain about it. You don't wind bitch and moan about mike florio. Oh god remember when he said joe burrow it doesn't matter it doesn't matter what came from that's the perception because while you might have heard at one win reacted that way. Do you think the person in nashville did. Oh four euros. After the bengals he always aged angles seattle. They thought that or los angeles or texas. No they thought. Dan the bengals. That's right that's the perception you don't need to worry about that. Just put the pieces around joe burrow. Put him in a position to succeed in that. Perception will swing james. Repeat in from. Oh this is. Espn fifteen thirty up next. This is our one draft segment today. That's good for me it's february. I'm doing one draft. Sing zach patra. Nfl draft bible will join us. And then we'll dive back into free agent friday. We'll get to your calls as well. James are fenian from o. Espn fifteenth thirty terrence. Though killing it for twenty one. Let's take a slight break from free. Agent friday james or peanut from allegra we listen to a little fresh prince here and let's talk about the draft. The nfl draft just over two months away. The bengals will make the fifth pick. They have eight selections and for more on that. Let's talk to zach patra. Nfl draft bible joins us now. Zac i honestly. I goofed up. On the time. I'll be honest here full disclosure. I thought it was four. Four twenty it was four forty that we talked about so. I appreciate you being flexible. Man i i got no problem coming on. I'll be flexible. Grants so problem me man. I really appreciate it. Make sure you follow zach on twitter at. Nfl underscores zack in well. Let's start with the fifth pick. There's a lot of debate in cincinnati. I think between the two players penny saw jomar chase. Let's start with this. Do you think what what what are the odds. That of those two guys is available when the bengals are on the clock picking fifth. Yeah i think it's a pretty good shot here. I just did a mock draft for. I was trying to figure out who. I was going to take it at three for the dolphins and i wanted to get to the bengals because i think it just makes a lot of sense. Okay but i took. I ended up taking to the dolphins. And then it just makes so much sense to have chase fall under the bengals because then you just pair them up with with borough against i think it's a very good shot that he's there and i think both of them are going to be great picks for whoever you guys land there and make sure you check out that mock draft that nfl draft bible dot com. It's a three round mock draft. I was a fan of it. I also linked to it at all. Bengals dot com let. Let's start with sewell then embraced these guys down because you said he's a great fit. I think a lot of people view him as a guy that obviously fills a need for the bengals can come in and be an instant. What do you like about him. Are there any concerns and Is he is he. This generational talent that so many have thrown out there. And i feel like a lot of people are just saying that term now but how. How good is he very good prospect. And now i'm gonna tell you right. I'm gonna tell you right now when you plug him into your lineup on day. One of the of the nfl season. It's going to be one of those things. Man you gotta let this kid develop a little bit. And i want to say that i won't say that you have to develop this kid into into this. Okay starter out talking about developed him into what everyone talks about like you said generational talent at term. It gets used too much but this kid has that potential to be a generational talent. The with him it was just so phenomenal. There's a lot to really like breaking them down a little bit you you look at his his hands and feet they. They don't work together at in in in the same motion as the should which is something i wanted to. He's just inconsistent with his hands right now but when he puts it all together it's their man like there is. It's just it's so much fun to watch is strengthened atlanticism. The way he moves. It's just it's fluid. It's it's mood and and it's just a blast to watch them on film when he puts it together. There's just think. I gotta get those inconsistencies out of there where i developed him into that into that pro bowl caliber tackle that he can be zach batra. Nfl draft bible joining us. All right. so let's talk about jomar chase because a lot of people right now starting to buy into to chase as not only the number one receiver in this draft class. But i think there's bengals fans probably over the past two weeks or so are wrapping their head around the idea of chase re linking up rejoining borough and catching passes from him. What does he do well. He opted out so opted out but what does he do. Well what are you worried about when it comes a twenty year old in march as that set the world on fire. Sec on fire is a nineteen year old has a nineteen year. Old is a sophomore. Who had been. He was fema tears. Marshall and justin jefferson. And now we're talking about obviously saw justin jefferson. Go do the minnesota vikings in the first round. You know now. We're talking about terrorist. Marshall potentially being back in first or atop second round pick so you're talking about a guy nineteen years old sophomore and was the best wide receiver in the country. That does seem win a national championship as the chemistry with joe burrow. Who's the cincinnati bengals quarterback. He's gonna be coming up Tornado l. but let's let's put it this way we all know the nfl. We all know football. In general is the most the biggest team sport you need a team built around those around another everyone in that organization to be successful and i said all the time especially with offensive. Lima to but in general continuities huge. You gotta know the guys around you gotta be you gotta be able to interact with the guys around. You gotta be able to play to everyone's strengths and weaknesses and bringing a guy like chasing and it's a play with borough so key and getting them at five. It might seem like a reach when you talk about wide receivers especially when you look at this wide receiver class that deed but there's no question that chases the best wide receiver that five. I don't want people are gonna wanna say that you know divisive smith and i know there's been a lot of talk about you know jalen waddell as well being the best receiver to me. There's no question gee martinez head and shoulders above these guys at the water superposition. So if you can get a playmaker like that the pair off with a guy that he's familiar with the you know. The time is going to be there. You know. Jamal chases a tremendous route runner. So when you look at you know the time it would joe burrow's already going to be there. He's going to run his his his chris fluid athletic or else that he runs He's got great hands. It's really not a route that he can't run a mile opinion. And he's got some speed to burn bernie de so you pair him with burl. That's that's gonna be a dream. Scenario going forward in the bengals could use a lot of very especially with with what they got going on right now. Yeah no doubt about it. I think wide receiver is a need for them in even though the. Afc and tyler boyd. I'm not sure either. One's a one right franchise tag. Aj green to be that and it didn't work out. So i certainly think chase fits our exact. I'm gonna put you on the hot seat if seoul and chase both there at five and we don't know what the bengals have done in free agency so it's an impossible question so but but i want you to answer it anyway if chasing sore both at five which one are you taking. That is hot as a hot. That's right it's real tough. Well you guys are in a pretty decent spot. Your offense of lines youngest not. It's not. I don't think it's a terrible of but it definitely has underperformed Getting an offensive line to to protect your your stud quarterback who i think is could end up being a top five quarterback in the nfl. I mean the kids played extremely. Well so i. I like protecting my quarterback first and foremost. But i think i'm gonna go seul here and then maybe try to take terrorist marshall in the second round in in. That's the thing i think. There's a lot of debate there in to me. Let's assume now let's flip it intact. Patrick joining us from nfl. Draft bible dot com makes you follow him on twitter at a. Nfl zach is far as the fifth pick goes. Let's say both are gone. Because i feel like no brainers. I doubt both are there but who knows. Maybe the bengals get lucky. And they are. But let's say chase goes to to the jets in maybe the dolphins in your mock take like they do in your mom take pennzoil. Well then who do you think would be at the top of the bengals board there. Because there's a lot of skill players that i think i would have my eye on obviously later from northwestern couple cornerbacks but who would be the top player on the board at both of those guys are gone that you think would would fit best in cincinnati mentioned. Sean slater and i. I really like him. I like him as a top ten pick. Five is just a bit too rich for me. So i'm not sure i would go that early You know looking at the bengals need. I could see them using a defensive player. Maybe they might you know. Think about going. Michael parsons who me. Personally i think is gonna fall farther in the draft and a lot of people feel like talking about the new look at some of the some of the other wide receivers you know. Do you wanna go to smith who is wayne in one hundred hundred and sixty four pounds. No i'm not taking a lot like him at at at five. So that you know if you wanna look outside linebackers it's too early to to look at it a linebacker. This is where. I think you start looking at maybe going corner or trading trading back try to acquire some more picks You could see a guy like patrick's thirteen maybe going in the top five. I think that kids athletic. And he's got some wheels to be able to keep up with with a lot of seniors that are going be I don't wanna. I don't wanna play a name on the fifth overall takes if a guy like chasing tool because there's just not that there's not that guy that i feel that to be that top five pick for you guys. That's going to be a good fit. You don't i mean i think trade back if they're not there you know. Get get some tax bill bill. This town around the siem around joe burrow yell really build that defense up later in the draft because there are some really good defenders in this. Let me give you my opinion then because there is always that doomsday scenario where they're not there. And then maybe the. I guess quarterbacks would be there so theoretically someone might wanna trade up but let's just say they can't get something happens in they can't get a trade to happen. I would say top talent. Like where's kyle pits on your talk to me. Look like cal. Cal pinches one and then jalen waddell like those are. The two like of wada would have played this year. I don't think we're talking about the smith. Know the heisman trophy winner. Certainly i mean. He was having a better year than smith. Four games in before he got injured. I think those are the two guys that maybe you look at it five and and you feel pretty good about. That isn't isn't reaching. Maybe i'm crazy but would you think about those two. I really do that. You brought that up because as you were talking. I was starting to think about as well. So that's not bad. That's not a bad decision there. But you're gonna get those people are gonna push back in and be like come on ended at i by that but that doesn't make any sense you look. It's funny just to just to go up on a slight tangent. There you know you got guys like george kittle. is kelsey zakar. They weren't taken early early in the respective draft class. Then you look at guys like You know hopkinson fan. You always starting to get these are getting a little earlier so maybe you can start to justify a tight end up in that. That's the thing. Is you draft one in the top. Ten in they're not instantly. Like if he's not. Darren waller by your to your worried like. That's the tough part about tight end. Zach patrick spending a few more minutes talking with him. Nfl draft bible dot com. All right. let's move on to today too early day. Three where is the value in in that part of the draft. Is there like let's say the bengals do go chase. Are they still going to be able to address offensive line. Are they still going to be able to address. Edge rusher in rounds two four. Because i think those are probably the two two big needs regardless of what they do around lot. Yeah for sure. I mean you look at some of the guys that could be could be available at the south around to where you guys are. There you know allies are very tucker has gotten a lot of round one high personally. I think he'd be a eighteen. Is more around two guys from me and i think if you guys can snag at the top end of the of the thirty i think that's a great big You know trey smith lie. Davis guys are starting to fall in in in more of when you look at mock draft. That's when you look at When you look at draft stock you know why davis with the injury at the at the end of the end of the year last year. But he's he's such a great talent. Troy smith has had the blood clots that he has dealt with as well so there. There are some concerns that they come with. But there's such great players And those are some of the interior guys. Look at some of the tackles. James hudson from cincinnati seven from oklahoma state. I'm hearing that Nfl teams are a little bit lower on him. Then send the media. But i'm i'm a big fan of seven jenkins liam liam. I can burn. Gotta the right from notre dame. There's some really good names that are still gonna be on the board I think you take you know in in around two now thinking about around three A guy like zander. Smith is the eastern carolina. Kid who looked great at the senior bowl I don't think i could find him in the in the in the mock draft. I did that. We mentioned earlier. But i really wanted to. I really thought that that kid could have made it into the third round. And i think there's plenty of talent and upside with him. They're looking at some of the edge. Rushers jason away from penn. State is he he. He blew me away when i watched this day. Man like the kid is. He's phenomenal but there's just too much to clean up for him to get into the first round address your class. It's not it's not great is that it's it's not great when you look at top talent. It's great when you it's good. We look at the depths of what was there. Because i think there are gonna be some solid. You know whether you whether you need a three four defensive end you need a you need an outside rusher Linebacker type Only need a four three defensive. And i think there's so many guys that have some quality traits. You're gonna actually get a steal but it's not gonna feel the nfl draft but they're not going to be this like pro bowl. You know parental parole or even making one or two pro bowls in there in the nfl career. But i think there are some solid. You know solid guys to look at you like said james. No way i think gregory roussell is gonna fall deeper than people realize Ellison smith he's the guy that moved inside and outside a phenomenal player. Played well at the senior bowl He's from minnesota from so. Maybe i'm a little bit biased. Though and then. And then guys like george smith and and rishaad we who who also looked really good at the senior bowl issue to dalen. Hey that's the name you guys got to keep an eye on he. He reminds me a lot of Who's your who's your. Who's your defensive. Right now awesome awesome. You might be a little bit of colossal man. I really like dalen. Hey all right. I think bengals fans would sign up for that all day long. This this has been really good. Zach i appreciate you being flexible and incoming on and i look forward to having you on again before the draft absolutely man anytime time like i said i don't mind being flex flexible all talking to address all day get stuff man have a good weekend zach petrol. Nfl draft bible dot com. Make sure you follow him on twitter at nfl. Underscore zach really good stuff. There and he was flexible. Because see. I've been in this chair in a while. And i got the guests on the timing. He was supposed to join us at four forty. I made taryn column or had taryn column at four. Eighteen in zach was able to be flexible. So you gotta. I'm hard to work with clearly coming up at thirty minutes. It's free agent. Friday so turn bland's gonna give his free agent that he wants the bengals to go all in on and one that he wants to put on. I will do the same as free. Agent friday continues plus up next. We'll get to your calls at five one. Three seven four nine fifteen thirty eight six six seven zero two three seven seven six and i'm gonna make the case for a star free agent that a lot of people are talking about. We'll do that as well. So we'll get to your calls. And i'll make the case for a star free agent as we roll on. I'm james dean. This is espn fifteen thirty.

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J.J. Watt to the Cardinals and Moves That Could Change the Outlook of the 2021 Season

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I'm excited to do these tuesday shows with you because i feel like we're going to have some good like offseason lackey. Who's the most happy quarterback right now. Like i kind of feel like there's just a lot of tension and a lot of things can be worked out with every franchise quarterback is any tom. Brady is the only guy who's just like at one hundred percent happiness right right. But he's not right like tom. Brady is just still mad about his draft scouting report. Like half the franchise. Quarterbacks are mad at their gm's format of their off it's of line the skill guys whatever and then the one guy won the superbowl. Who was on. What a three million dollar boat a couple of weeks ago looking. Great lull will drunk He's just mad at thirty one other about that happened in late. One thousand nine hundred nine. There's less than that all right so we have a lot to get to today. We're gonna get to the watt news and how within this changes anything if it does a renegade tour needle mover sort of using the watt signing as a guidepost to to what players would actually swing a team from good to great from bad to good whatever it is. I'm just the free agents or the guys who could change teams that we think would do the most for particular team And then we're gonna get into couple of the news items Alex smith getting released by the washington football team. A couple other things. I'm blitzer with the. Jj watt signing because. I think that this was a bit of a surprise to go to arizona for two years. Twenty three million dollars guaranteed thirty one million dollars overall. I think that a lot of fans some media got on board of idea that he was going to take a pretty insignificant contract. Go chase a ring and buffalo or cleveland or green bay and it turns out that j what wanted to do with. We'd all wanna do which is Take the most money a Play on a pretty good team at edward came out yesterday and said that he wanted to go play with the good quarterback harlem. Murray is that and live in a very nice place Arizona is a good place to be nor when you saw this news which was broken. Baiji watt himself with a picture. And this is at some point you to watch play into the. Jj watt bit but he. He broke it by putting a cardinals shirt on and lifting weights and putting a photo of himself online When you saw this news nor you thought what. The first thing i thought about was that he'll be playing with chandler jones and i think that's important because you talk about the conversation leading up to this movement and how much speculation. There was that he would go to the bills. Somebody ready to really be a serious contender. Right now would prioritize. Maybe at the cost of how big contract would be playing for a team. Like that. And i think what gets underrated when we analyze. How a player might make a decision like this is who their position mates are going to be. And how that's going to impact their ability to perform well and what kind of situation that they're going to be in because for both of those guys they have an opportunity because both of them are incredibly good players incredibly good pass rushers but who have significant injury histories. Both of them have an opportunity to take a little bit of that pressure off of each other probably diminish their double team rates a little bit And also change that defense so that they have to rely on blitzing a little bit less. And then we find out and this is of course speculative and silly and potentially completely insignificant but they'd been messaging on instagram abou- was if you come here. I'll be your private chevelle. Cooking meals. And jay's laughing and it's all cute and whatever like that's horrible but i think that type of thing matters not just in terms of scheme fit what they'll be able to do when they're actually playing together but i think that's really significant and it's not more significant than money like somehow we always eight just people wanna get paid for their work then easiest thing in the world is to tell somebody else to take less money and it's never easy reflective of some of house. Someone's going to make a decision like this especially because it's just really hard to figure out who's going to win a super bowl next year right like i guess if he'd gone to if he'd gone to like the bucks. You're kind of like yeah. Okay well whatever but it's also really hard to win the super bowl two years in a row like the books probably aren't gonna. This ruled actually good. Now that i've said that tom brady is just gonna be pissed absolutely crazy. He's hoping that he's clipping that. For his tb. Twelve pump up video for this time next year. Football players know a lot better than we do. Sometimes that these things are hard to predict. I'm also thinking the other thing that i'm monopolizing this discussion but the other thing that it made me think of was an. Jj watt is more accomplished player of course but when jahic gakugei went to the vikings. I'm trying to learn the lesson of how much that swayed. My opinion of the vikings in that moment. Which did not turn out to be astute analysis. I that that pod discussion was not us from last year. That was a deepfake right. Yeah exactly that was that was. Jj watt on the palatine. That was that was k- jay kevin and nora. It's funny because i think it was funny. Because we i think i picked the packers when that division the entire time. That didn't sway me. But i did think that that i thought the vikings were just a frisky team and i thought that the dock way Natural be true. They end up getting good value for down the road. But but that that's separate discussion. Okay so the challenge jones. Jj watt fangs. interesting I'm with you in the sense. That i don't feel amazing about arizona as a franchise I don't love their coaching situation. Although cliff has i of feel like there's a because cliff immediately exceeded our expectations I kind of put a moratorium on criticizing him. And now i'm kinda back to cooking's berries is an average kosher best okay. And he's the lifted. Worst koshen worst worst. Coaching the division. And all that stuff okay But i think they have talent. And i think that kind of like what you said. There's a real opportunity here for for arizona to be a sleeper team. And i don't know i fall. I wanna take a step back here. Because i think that there's a lot we don't know about what this offseason training camp is gonna look like right and i don't know i mean the whole thing last year for me was teams. Can't make these usually because you need. Ota's trying to molest up. D smith a couple of weeks ago. Said there's no. Optimism is going to be in person training camp this year So i don't know. I i think there's so many moving pieces about whether or not teams can get better mystery. Shnell way on that are still unanswered with what in particular Obviously he is not what he was as a pass rusher and he's never going to be again because he was one of the best pass rushers in the history of football. He's getting old. That's fine Our franchise mcdonald a piece on usa. Today yesterday basically. I think you've is what was sixty eighth or something in pressuring among defenders last year. Knock ray but what he can do is play the run and when he can do is get to the quarterback at a decent enough rate to where he's not a total waste there but maybe effort the guys talk about this. Maybe his future is more interior Inside you know. Obviously the texans moved around a lot now was that was part of his His success over the course of his career But i think fit. I'm with you. Entertainer jones thanking only help one thousand one hundred and forty two combined pressures which the most among all active pass rushing duos. I will caution. Sometimes we get into. I remember when shack joined the celtics. Big headline was. I think the celtics was like the most all star appearances in history on one starting lineup. Or whatever. and it's like well that's just because they're old and betsy. This isn't that good But i do think that they both had something left in the tank. And i do think chandler jones is still it can still be premium. Tier pass rusher So i think that this matters. I went back and forth. The money is a little too much thirty. One million is probably six seven eight million dollars more than i would have given him. He gets a little bump for being famous. I'm fine with that. Thirst significantly worse contracts and football given out because guys are a bigger name than they are player. I still think. Joe walking. Contribute to a team Yesterday when the signing came down. I said you know what this isn't going to matter the nfl and twenty twenty one. I'm i'm coming around on the cardinals being an interesting team but i'm coming around this signing mattering I think it's a good signing for both sides well so they're in a brutal division rain. They go eight nate last year in a brutal division. So if this ends up mattering to me has a lot to do with. If they get some other things right if they can make their offense a little bit more stable more explosive potentially add some speed. Become a team that can really compete in that division. Then that's when you come back around to. They had to overpay for it. But it's good that they added a jj watt. It's good that they blitzed thirty eight percent of the time over the last three seasons. That's a lot. You're putting a lot of pressure on those guys by doing that. Maybe if you change that formula a little bit and other things are going right and you need a lot of things to go right at the same time to succeed in that division. Then you get to the point where you can start accomplishing what you actually want to accomplish. Maybe you need an upgrade in your coaching as well to do that. Jj watt alone is not going to win the cardinals a super bowl or get them there. Have them make a significant playoff run. Or whatever like the lesson of the gakuen thing is one defensive player is just not gonna do it for you but if other things go right then. It's good that you did this. So i guess it's tvd to me. But i can see him making a difference down the line okay so this accomplishes one other thing. It's totally separate our. They did it but it is. It is productive. It's going to drive. Russell wilson crazy. It's going to get the russell wilson ten percent angrier. You might add two more teams to his list. He might say. I don't i still don't want trade but i decided to more teams. That's what russell wilson might be. Because they obviously the seahawks often divine has still been a problem for essentially you know. I don't know four or five six years now. Something like that They need upgrade now. Because if this wasn't already the case and it should have been They should be on on red alert in seattle. That there's going to be a lot of great pass rushers in this division coming at them. And if you didn't know that because chandler jones is already there or donald was already there You know it now so it is. It's going to be interesting to see how the chess match goes. But i know that when russell wilson that tweet he probably did not enjoy himself. That's all i don't wanna trade. But here are two more teams. That i would be traded to is some peak russell wilson shit and i absolutely love it. The other thing that that has. It's incredible. it's it's so that guy is always on brand and has kind of the weirdest brand in the world. And i really respected and the strange way. The other thing that it does that has nothing to do with the arizona. Cardinals is that putting him with deirdre hopkins gear. It also makes texans look really bad worse than they already did. And that matt needle was hard to move. I thought it was really funny yesterday. We're like wow deondraye. Great recruiter I dunno i think money and arizona is probably number one number two. I'm sure and not houston and i'm sure gendre. I am sure that that helped but okay. There's other reasons to go I would also say that seeing the money in the market for. Jj watt and. I understand that there's other considerations here. I'm a little surprised at ambika shouldn't be at this point. I'm a little surprised. Houston to try to get something for them because you could have done a situation where. Jd walk picked his team and he's still got a mid round. Pick if you're willing to pay thirty one million dollars for a player you're willing to mid round pick as well and i i. The whole thing is with houston there. I'm trying. I'm done understanding it but it's our job to try to understand it I just don't understand. Why a guy would. i don't know i again. I tried to try to under trying to understand. Houston it's like at this point. It's like You know it's one of those movies where there's more fan theories than there are like the director putting thought into it. You won't santa. He ever have like the. They'll always be like you know. Go on some read it for a movie. And they're like here's twenty-five theories in the director will be like i put thought into that scene. It's isn't stay on. This is not stanley kubrick here. Okay jack easterby is not stanley kubrick. There is no plan on detroit's trying to read into this. When i was in high school we had. I took a class where this great teacher. Who would always try to get us to have like a video conference or whatever with whoever wrote what ever book that we read and it was like. I'd like sort of discovered that. I liked writing in that class and doing so much like close reading all these theories and write these essays and have like whatever every single time. We talked to the person who wrote the book. Like we'd all be shouting out our ideas about what was a parallel to what and the author would always be like. Oh yeah. I didn't think about houston. I reject the premise. That is our responsibility to explain. What's happening in houston. I think that is not. I think they're like we're going to recruit a crack team of scientists to come on ring around joe and do some really heavy duty research like i. Just don't think that one's happening Yes it would have made sense to try to get some draft capital in exchange for him. 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It's these are realistic. Moves okay mic. We are assuming here that dak prescott is going to stay with the cowboys via franchise tag or something else. We're not going to make unrealistic mussa received. Hey solve the pants. Problem got aaron rodgers. Were not racking and do that. We're going to realistic moves. That could change the outlook for a team for a division. Whatever we wanna do norah. What's number one. My first needle mover is wide receiver allen robinson to the miami dolphins which would be. Okay expensive right yes allen. Robinson is the best receiver on the market in a good free agent class for receivers but to me. He is worth the money. The dolphins really badly need to upgrade their passing attack. They're ready to be a contender in my eyes and that is actually regardless of. Who's playing quarterback. There's still unanswered questions about if that's a dijon favorite destination or if it's too or whatever is going on but in either case that's a quarterback upgrade for our guy alan robinson and it's gonna cost upwards of twenty million dollars a year. I would think. But miami's still got a decent amount of resources to spend. And i think this would be a real worthwhile move to pair him with devante parker and just have a real one to threat there. What do you think of that choice kevin. So i'm in agreement with that. I actually have one new movers. As allen. Robinson to the colts which i'll got to in a second I this is obviously suggesting that allen robinson is not get tagged or tag traded or and this is seems more unrealistic by the day that the bears come up with a long term plan to keep him there for four years even even tagging him would be eighteen and even that is really hard for them to to figure out how to afford. Attacking trade might be a realistic possibility for them but financially it would be it would be tough to see him sticking around in chicago and also don't really know why he would want to. That's another reason. I think miami would be a good destination. Why would you not want to live in miami after dealing with that. Yes that's a great point. The the tag number is around eighteen. The estimate on track is around twenty And so he's gonna be a big ticket item for anybody and he's going to be the priority of your off season when you're spending that much money okay So i think with the dolphins and this ties in actually to another one of my of my needle. Movers they need something and that could be number one. That could be to shawn watson. he's not needle mover. because that's obviously it. That's that's the needle he's the needle. He changes everything he goes there. The one team. That's in position that desha would go to so desha watson was in miami for the canal fight over the weekend. Obviously that's a place people wanna live it's a franchise that has a lot of building blocks. It's a team that i i look at. I look at the sean situation through. What teams could shawn watson. Make legitimate kant. Let's say conference championship contender. And you're one. The dolphins are that team. Yes to shaw watson could take a team almost made the playoffs last year and get them to the gym game and is absolutely happen And they wouldn't have to see. They would be giving up draft capital they'd be giving up the lambie tunsil picks back and and a few more picks and maybe maybe a defensive player or two but there would still be enough for them to get to the at least the game and the who knows from there and so but failing that they need to just go all in on what they have and upgrade the weapons. And if they don't they cannot get shawn watson. there's an either or thing here from me. Where if they're not gonna upgrade. The quarterback t need upgrade. What the quarterback has so for me that would probably be it and allen robinson or drafting jomar chase at three And going from there. So i think the skill guys are are the most important thing. If you're not gonna get shawn want if you do. Get to show watson having roms ridge would be obviously amazing. But it's it's not you know you don't need to prioritize that necessarily you can ask designed to win with devante parker. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. So what else can i say about the cold. so zach. Keefer of the athletic covers the colts and has a great job. Said this week that the colts were in frown robinson. Last time he was on the open market. And the chris. Ballard is not known for taking big swings like this but it would definitely be something that helped them and when i think about carson wentz and i think about that incredible twenty seventeen eagles team. They went all in on weapons. And you know. I think that there's probably a pretty good debate about why there was such a spike and carson wentz's production Yes even release it usa. Today's written to basically he was never as good as we thought which actually might be a better explanation than he discreetly forgot about football. But i do know that when he was at his best he had a weapons released an enough good weapons that it was an elite supporting cast. And i think that with frank reich. I think you gotta get 'em something and i think l. robinson would be the culture one of the very few teams with money to spend this year. Obviously they're going to have some extensions up because they have a lot of town on the roster but they could afford alan robinson. And if you've got to be open market i think they. I think you need to do something like that. Take a big swing because carson wentz is not gonna win on his own. He's not like we're talking to john. Watson carson wentz is knocking on his own. He needs some help you need to. You need to recreate the two thousand sixteen twenty seventeen eagles here and go out and get him a wide receiver. Who's gonna make him better. And there are a handful of those guys in the market and obviously listen the receiver death in free agency. This year is really good. Where that's juju. Whether that's allen robinson the receivers everywhere and the receivers in the draft and this is something. I've talked about this for eight years now. They started covering the league. But they're still how good receivers everywhere because of the way the sport developed because of the seven on seven leagues because the these guys all got ten thousand hour rule stuff and the quarterbacks and wide receivers developed way ahead of linebackers and cornerbacks and and right guards and all that stuff That's separate podcasts. would say is. We're seeing it. Now when we see how deep dra- the draft is and we're seeing how deep free agency is but if you wanna premium guy right now you go without robinson And again if they can't get him. There's other options out there. But i that's the big swing i would try to take. That's a really good segue to my next one which is another one of those receivers not quite as big of a swing but not abundant either to the colts I gave them willfuller and slightly more modest rate than going after robinson. Although that's not you know he's not gonna come cheap but maybe you're talking about fourteen fifteen million year instead of upwards of twenty totally in agreement with you that carson's is going to need support there to succeed and what i really like about. The fit with fuller is that he's not the contract that he's going to get is not purely based on production. What is going to be based on more than anything else is speed. Just that trait is really valuable. And is what teams are going to be looking for whoever ends up getting him and in an offense there that i think is really smart. Really well designed is also uses. Multiple tight ends uses. The running backs uses size. These big players pretty effectively having that change up with a real true field structure. I think could be really interesting and really effective so i would love to see him go there or and this would be financially a little bit more difficult. I think he would be cool in arizona too. If you wanna just keep sending everyone who's ever put on houston texans uniform to their own cardinals but my first choice is the colts Especially because yeah. I mean do i not getting any younger Michael pittman junior is pretty young but probably needs time to develop so i would love to see them get a receiver. Obviously allen robinson would be phenomenal. They are but be slightly less expensive option. That i really like is willfuller for the colts. So fuller was the highest grade wide receiver in twenty twenty pf. I thought it was inching. How often and how close the the packers got training for willful or last year and i understand his cap limitations but they could do that. Obviously the packers have had had some interest and that would fit in the for offense and that would just be something if aaron rodgers is as angry as he seemed in january and he should have been angry. Because i feel like every franchise quarterback should have say or or whatever it is he was looking for. franchise quarterback should basically be able to run the organization. If they want okay hold on yes and no. Aaron rodgers got a shout out from jodi foster during the golden globes. Like you're fine air and you're fine i. I looked into that. I was surprised. I didn't understand that until i read that there. They they jodie foster's obsessed with aaron rodgers. but they never met yeah but she also may be introduced him to shalin with late or something. It's really have never met. is this. This zoom thing was zoom. Happy hour I don't know. I theories but i think there is. Let's let's let's take that offline will state that offline the jodie foster stuff Okay so i think that will four is a really intriguing option And and i i'm with you. I think that the cartels might be a sneaky option there There could be a situation where fuller just gets a bunch of money from a team that has room to spend it and it doesn't before does not end up swinging any would-be contender and ends up playing in kind of a wasteland which is totally fine on. If i was a free agent. I would just go where the most money was is. But you know the fact that the texans not tag was not a surprise And i think that there is. I from what social media looks like yesterday. The texans were unhappy with it. But i also think that players are unhappy with it but i also think the texans players with everything right now because they're gonna go ship so there you go again analyzing the decision making houston texans. We're just not going to do it by the way. I always think of forty times with wolf war because and i wanted to bring up this thing that daniel jeremiah said really quickly that forty times are going to be totally irrelevant going forward because of all the gps did you see this yet. Others was fascinating. I just won't talk with us for one second. Because i think the we're going to understand how to quantify speed going forward then it's gonna be really fascinating to see because i just you know two years ago a. Gm told me that a defensive back that they ran good forty. And i thought he played slow and the scouts. Saudi play slow and there was a little bit of a debate and they went to the school. The school gave them their. Gps times basically. How fast they're moving on the field. It confirmed they played swallow and then a stayed away from. Actually that is actually not particularly good In the nfl right now even though he was thought of as a pretty good prospect but who knows that's gps or not. and so. i think there's there's just a lot there. with with speed and football is going for them. I'm fascinated by. This is totally aside from the wolf. War thing i i just wanted to bring it up in the gulf war thing is is is the fact that speed is probably when i look at. I don't know ten fifteen. I saw yesterday with with washed ball team. There was a story that was like watch. Football team needs speed like needs speed and the fact that a guy just the bucks on its beat. The bucks were all set speed But i guess you would say that The fact is going to be better ways to quantify speed. Going forward is going to be a game changer. in in future offseasons. I guess. I'm i'm cracking up. Because what's the what's the quote that they show at the beginning of talladega nights. Where it's like america's all about speed hot nasty bad speed. Eleanor rose gasps. That's the nfl right now. Yes you're totally right though. Especially because okay. So it's it's really obvious why you should covid speed but you also look around the league right now and there are a lot of that have quite a bit going for them but everything is just a little bit to horizontal right. Because we've had these this push pull between. We have more mobile quarterbacks who can get sacked less often using their athleticism. They can take some pressure off of offensive lines. Which like i dunno. Go back five years. We were terrified about dolphins of line pipeline coming from college the split to either. Nobody knew how to do it at the nfl level. And all the quarterbacks were getting killed and everything was a big disaster. Well one of the major reasons Teams have figured out ways to get around that is everybody just gets the ball out so quickly but what that leads to. Is that having something where you can build. That into deep shots is harder but also really really really important. So there's just. I mean there are so many teams where you can look at it and go okay. That's a pretty well designed offense but if they could add a field stretcher. And i i really circle arizona with this. It would make a huge difference so i actually think the more that we're talking about this. I'm talking myself into willful. Are having a really really interesting market. But we'll see. It's also super weird because of all the covid stuff in the salary cap but miz discussion has convinced me that he's absolutely one to watch. Yeah it'll be. And i do want to say one thing with the ones into stuff is that i don't know of wentz or two of twenty twenty wants. I don't know quite frankly if they'll ever have productive seasons in the nfl. going forward. Because when i was a disaster last year and tua was just okay last year. And i have been the case about two other. The josh allen thing is spooked me to the point that i'm not going to declare anyone a bus and i would say going back to the jared goff thing i'm not going to declare anyone a bust And to a showed enough. It's now this is not to did not play golf like last year. He showed a little bit. He does didn't show you know as much as justin. Herbert or somebody like that But what i will say is i mean this is just when you give these guys the weapons whether it's allen robinson or will four or whatever it is you're just making it easier on bam and you're making it easier on the infrastructure like listen the reason that the eagles were able to win the super bowl when out in two thousand seventeen was because they built up that infrastructure So i don't. I don't think there's any guarantee even if you give out. I mean poor allen robinson. Wouldn't it be the worst thing in the world of finally gets to choose destination free agency with a good quarterback in mind gets there and the quarterback is just somehow still bad. Poor guy i when i when i was putting together my notes at first. I wrote down nick trubisky for whose quarterback was last year. Which i actually think i'm gonna stick with but to your point about to if were spooked on that i pound the table on this but the lesson potentially has something to do with the receivers that he had around him in college. So yes if even a smidgen of that translates to the nfl that to your point is evidence for the value of going all in on these guys. Because if you don't have them you're it's just really hard. We're now doing that with mac jones as well. That's separate discussion. That's coming up later. Actually on the show. I get next guy. My next needle mover. And that is trent williams returning to his team. The same script forty nine so in his new deal That was signed a couple of years. Ago was restructured Trent williams cannot be franchise tagged what he can do as you paid a boatload of money because he is one of the best players in football full stop so number one in pf grade For for tackles his blown. Block percentage on both run blocking impasse blocking is around one percent. I don't know the full metrics on that napa. That sounds pretty good That you ninety nine times out of one hundred. Have a good block if your job is to block. He's gonna make a ton of money. Probably twenty million dollars. Laremy tunsil reset the market on that. You saw the david jerry deal this year. The reason i think that tuncel is making forty four thousand dollars a day right now. I just wanna say because we're taking a lot of air time talking about things that are going very badly in houston texas one thing. That's going very well. Is that laremy. Tunsil is making bank every single day. Laremy tunsil played it perfectly. He played it. Not only that but the the best part was when laremy tunsil found out the offer that was going to miami and he was like. Yeah you gotta trade. Me is definitely like i might be the smartest person of football i think laremy tunsil might should should pull a jack easterby style coup and be running the franchise i would trust laremy tunsil significantly more laremy. Tunsil negotiated his own contract. He was on the phone with bill. O'brien being like you're gonna pay me an incredible ton of money. Yes laremy tunsil a in laramie we trust even with the also. The gas masks was kind of cool hissed. he's like a. He's like a thirty for thirty short. Minimum potential. Well is a really really interesting guy. Who can bankrolled you. Imagine i re. I'm we'll move on in a second. I care about this. Because i wrote a story about it last year. But can you imagine going through that experience where you think that you have your entry into the nfl. All set up. And then something that. I guess you can argue that. When he put the gas mask on it was in his control to do that. Or whatever but something totally random that is in part outside. Your control happen screws it up. And then he has this weird complicated entry into his professional career. Rough start figures it out turns into a really good player and then seizes control back through this trade contract negotiation. All of that. Like laremy tunsil is thriving and i love to see it. A long thing happened. It was my literal first day at the renner. They had sentenced to the draft Maze nine they want. We were sitting together and the the absolute chaos in like the media and team area when that happened was because i think there are a lot of teams. Obviously that were just like they were going to take him and then he just started slipping. It's it was is one of the most fascinating things of the last few years just to have that happen during the draft. Anyway laremy tunsil thriving. He's making forty four thousand dollars a day. He's the only person who knows what they're doing right now. Aside from shawn watson last thing on that he also probably made ronnie stanley us ten million dollars because he became the top tackle prospect in that draft like immediately after the gas mask thing and so made a little bit of extra money on his rookie contract and then because laremy tunsil moved the market with his extension helped him again so send that man fruit basket. That's so trent williams has to be deal. The number one thing maybe even above right now unless there's a quarterback that shakes free john lynch in cal- shanahan. She just be focused on bringing back. So as i said he cannot be franchised These the kind of guy that creates a hole in your line that you have to do five things just to to to make up for it. sign him. I think that when he gets to the open market is going to see a lot of money. I don't think you know in a in a normal year there would be a team that may be says. screw it. we need to tackle. Here is just an ungodly amount of money. I don't know in the covert salary cap. That's going to happen Even if new tv deals or signed like that there's just not enough money to go around right now in this free agency period You know. I remember that the story and this is kind of separate but if you remember Detroit brown signing and when oakland at the time It was basically like they were getting ready for free. Agency and then. Trump brown's agent culture brown was like frequencies over dude like guess how much the writers offered you and that that tends to happen sometimes when you reach the open market is you get you to a point and then some team. You're not expecting calls and says oh. Here's ten million dollars a year more than anybody else. And i think that trent williams at thirty three years old he's gonna probably want four year. Deal I don't know if that's gonna happen but in it's conceivable Anyway the forty niners. If they don't get trent williams we'll take a huge step back In everything kind of. I think they're the type of team even with jimmy. Garoppolo bounced back year. I mean all you have to do is not lose. Half guys over two week period In new york and and things that have been fine for them. They're so competitive last year. i think that there will be. I think that the forty niners are when we're talking about bounce back candidates probably in a couple of weeks here. I think that they're no worse than number two As far as teams that were bad last year there could be good next year. And i think trent williams a huge huge piece of that. It is so rare. You know nick. Wagoner who covers the team from For espn breyer bench as well. It is so rare for a player. Like trent williams to reach free agency. It almost never happens especially one. That's that's in the thirties. You know andrew whitworth and jason peters or kind of the guideposts here as far as guys were able to play long time. It's not like trump was gonna fall clip here at age thirty eight thirty three So i think he's a great player. I think you should be the focal point. And i think that it's it's a sneaky. This is the definition of needle mover for me. Because of trent williams somehow gets out of san francisco the entire division changes because now all of a sudden the niners have a problem with with offensive lines. And now we're talking about going against aaron donald. J. j. watt and chandler jones with their problem and so he is a huge huge huge chesapeake free agency. An an something to watch All right what's your next one mine is an. I'm looking around here just to make sure that our buddy ryan shazier is nowhere near the vicinity. Zuma's i i am bracing myself for that eventuality. Bud do pre to the ravens ducks okay. This is interesting to me because the ravens. I actually read a couple of days ago about matthew judah may be going to the titans and the rivalry there there are some the pass rushers almost like receiver. Here were so many guys. We're going to change teams but also there's there's just a lot of because the afc. North is such a nasty in general such a competitive like rivalry laden conference like there might be guys who switch seems to teams that they used to. Yeah and this could really be one of them. Because okay so the ravens are could be losing merit top four linebackers from two thousand twenty jude on gakugei buzzer and mcphee. So there's a need there. I also just think what bud dupree is such a ravens player. And it's so. I say that because we're used to seeing him as a steeler but he's so good at so many little subtle things right like he's not going to just win one on one all the time but he's gonna get pressure. He's going to push the pocket. He's good against the run. He's versatile he smart and that's totally that is a baltimore ravens linebacker like to a t. You've never heard one more fitting than that except that we're used to watch him play for the steelers and i just think that they are smart organization. That's going to know how to value a player like that even with okay. Some injury history. He's had some advantages just by playing with other really great layers in the front seven there but i trust baltimore to kind of have finger on the pulse there and they have a needed the position. Plus they'd like to stick it to the steelers like what could be better than that. I am so he concerned. I've seen some smart folks say this offseason that pass rushers coming. Acl it's not an immediate impact. So i think with with debris just something to watch that. If you're putting. I think bud dupree is not gonna commander a ton of money. I'll look up the the estimates here. I think you're right as much that he would fit on the ravens Look up the market value here. If you're i guess his market value what would you guess late. Sixteen okay so spacek hasn't met eighteen. Which i think is a little high. Yeah i do too. I'm i'm factoring in that. This year is weird. And i think as a player who it's not always and this is my life's not fair it's not always great and free agency to be. The does a lot of things well guy. Well they're going off. Facts of frank. Clark makes this. This is their comparable player. So frank clark makes twenty million d ford seventeen. Eric armstead seventeen dairy. Smith's sixteen point five. I thinking more of his area. Smith sixteen window as you were. So i listen again the free agencies crazy. I don't know but i'm just saying that. This doesn't seem like the year where someone's going to say. I need this and listen. This goes back something we've talked about. talk with. She'll there's going to be a lot of bridge contracts. maybe he gets eighteen. But it's just a two year deal. Maybe it's two years thirty six and maybe it's that because teams aren't really sure what's going to happen with with with the cap but but not only that but there's gonna be a spike in two years or one year depending on how i'll goes back bud dupree once you get out into the open mark and we saw this with the nba where the smartest players and a smartest agents were gaming towards the free eight. The agent periods where there was money to be spent. And we're going to see that. If you think that trent williams you get twenty million dollars this offseason wait till you see what he could get into years. When there's one hundred percent return for every single television deal it's going to be unbelievable. And so how that comes into the cap whether or not there's a spike whether it's smoothing all that stuff that that that's a different category. What it will say is that the cap rose ten million dollars every year from i think twenty thirteen to twenty twenty basic until now and yeah and that changed football. And we're gonna see a similar thing. We don't know what the actual numbers will look like what we're going to see something similar with that. And so i think if if you're a bud do pre maybe you take it to your seventeen million dollar deal sixty million dollar deal and try to figure it out later or if you're not competent in your aco maybe take more long-term but th that's that's why free agency so fascinating because it tells you where the league is and it tells you what's going to happen and for me. I think you might see these shorter contracts as a as teams knowing what's going with the market's going to look like and twenty twenty three and players knowing as well so like a one year deal in baltimore right like to here in baltimore all right. That's the way the league is going. I lump to mind together. So i don't have a third one But you know solving the dolphins something. I deeply care about. I think to shawn watson has to go to the dolphins. Okay so this is. I'm glad you said that because since you don't have a third i'm gonna flip something back on you that you said that you ended up towards the beginning of this podcast. Which is that. Sean is the needle what is single. Most and we can extend the parameters of like what is actually going to happen a little bit. What's the single biggest potential swing. Is it to sean to miami. Is it russell. Wilson to the raiders. Yeah be like. I was surprised that the panthers were not on russell. Wilson's list because everything we know about the panthers and the something simmons antibi- last week is that they're gonna try to overpay. That was the the david decker will quote move mountains for a franchise quarterback. And so if you're if you're trying to get out of the situation wouldn't you go to a place. It's going to do everything they can to get you out like. I don't know if the saints had the capability to do that right now Or the cap space. I don't know if the bears are kind of in a similar situation Is he not have the cat space. You say that now you say that now now. I'm putting my freaking foot down on their done. Cut off you say that now. And then they add donald russell. Wilson had alan robinson somehow to and bud dupree on a one year bridge contract. And you're going to be eating your words. Have you ever been in an argument with like some really dushi person who just whenever you say something is going to be like. I'm going to play devil's advocate. There that is like what there is a group of saints fans. Most saints fans are lovely. But i wrote about their salary gap yesterday and i'm like they can always they always have the comeback at the ready of like well. It hasn't mattered up to now. And i'm like yes. My entire point is that it matters now. it didn't matter before but it matters now and also matter with the clown anything last year. I'll say that thank you thank you. You can realistically of all the moves that are more likely to happen in two thousand twenty. One desha watson to the to the dolphins is is the biggest swing. I would say russell wilson. I think we still have a ways to go on that particular drama. But i think he stays there for at least this year and then aaron rodgers is obviously staying put and i think that the teams that have called. I think we've seen the reports. It just just hasn't gone anywhere. So i think to shawn's number one big one and i think it happened to some. I think that they realized that it has to happen. A john maclean. The texans be writers said the five teams of called so far. We're still in a holding pattern where no one is. No one is is neko's area in those guys are not calling them back. 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I think if you read the beat writers think that that was seen as as aggressive posturing to the football team And a couple of days later he's released. It makes a lot of sense for me. Go to jacksonville Urban meyer was obviously is college coach. You know. I've talked to people around. Urban talked about dan mullen and they talk about how i how pivotal alex smith was to all of their careers and all of their lives because he was the guy we're really popped. And without alex smith the whole utah thing doesn't happen for urban. And then the whole florida thing. The whole ohio state thing and hold. Jaguars thing goes napping Obviously he's very good coach and something happened but it wouldn't have been that So it makes sense that he'd be able to go there. And also you think about alex. Smith alex smith took the urban meyer offense before anybody else and was able to have success in the nfl. He was the first. Urban meyer quarterback cessna. Nfl and if urban meyer is whole gimmick your is blending his offense with the nfl. Alex smith guy you. You would want being your second string quarterback by trevor lawrence. That's really smart chicago. Maybe another secondary option where he could be with matt nagy. And there's some lack of clarity on whether that would be a backup role or what which might be attractive to him if he wants a better opportunity to to play and not be sort of tasked with grooming trevor lawrence. I will say jacksonville is. The is the obvious one. The other thing. I wanted just prepare people for as we go through this free agency and all these these great destinations and exciting teams and whatever. Everybody brace yourselves for every free agent to go to the jaguars and the jets like. Just just get like what. What if he's just like i really want to do. I'd like to set up my family for many generations. And and i will take playing with with sam darnold for a year. That's fine for may right right like we should just be ready for that. Because for instance the jaguars have eighty two million dollars in cap space. So the other feather in the cap of of alex smith going there is like they can. They can hand backup quarterback a decent chunk of change right now and not have it priced out of adding guys to support chabot lauren's or whoever the quarterback is but it's trevor lawrence. Not a lot of teams are are in a position like that so i just want everybody to dip their toes into understanding that. There's just like everyone's going to the jaguars and the jets. I will say the another bad team with a lot of money to spend is the new england patriots now. I didn't say it. Because they was trying to get through a podcast. With by the way will will fuller Market value is sixteen point. Nine it put him with cooks. Amari cooper and stefan digs who all makeover fourteen lanier. So that's it so me might might be what you're looking at again. Maybe some of these guys and obviously the suspension may brings the price down or whatever but kevin. I've got a midweek doug for you. Is that to what compared mack jones alabama cornerback who is rising on some draft charts to tom brady and he was on a yahoo sports podcast and he said i would say he's a slide kind of athletic person. He's a more mobile. Tom brady. he's a more. Which lake birdie okay. Is he more mobile. Tom brady in the sense that he's more mobile than tom. Brady and plays quarterback. Because i guess you can't argue with that but like you do this. This reminds me a little bit of when so. Aj mccarron became the bengals starter. You're andy dalton. Went out when they ended up playing really well and who's gonna start a playoff game and aj mccarron quote. Was you know tom brady was a backup to and it's like well. Yeah literally tom brady. Was this these are facts. These are facts. You're back up and tom. Brady's a backup. But i think it kind of ends there I'm an agreement with you. That yeah mac. Tones can can run on a football field and he can throw a ball field. But i don't think he's. I don't think we're there with mac jones. I will say this the. Pf guys made a really good comparison. I think it was saying monson. Those guys were basically like if if aj mccarron not to bring up aj mccarron twice in the same the same segment here but if aj mccarron if as you mccarron were given these alabama receivers would. He have graded as highly as mack. Jones did this year. And i keep thinking the answer is yes and they do too. I just think that. I think the it's really hard to separate mack jones from the fact that he has a receiving core. That most guys would that somebody told teams. We'll take away franklin. This is the two of thing yet again. And sorta by corollary. The josh allen thing i just may biggest takeaway from this is that we need to just stop doing tom. Brady cops because i think the The relevant detail. Here is that mack jones was born in nine thousand nine hundred eighty eight so unless he was really cranky as a one year old. He's not still pissed about things that happened in one thousand nine as tom brady clearly is and that seems like a really relevant detail in kind of how how these pathways are are likely to develop. I think sometimes people are want to say to describe someone as a more mobile. Tom brady when they really are trying to say he's more mobile than tom brady. True without being really very important But you know what. Let's reframe this discussion. Because i don't want it to be all negative and sad. That's a nice thing to say about your friend too. Good on you sir. nice. Yeah i i. I'm with you on the to. I mean i think that the two of the mistakes. I made evaluating to of our part of the reason that i'm shading mack jones. A little bit it is the unanswerable question I'm glad that. I get to make low stakes comments on podcasts. Actually have to make the decision on a quarterback this year all right next nugget. Tom brady knee surgery He's supposed to be out several months according to one of the boston globe. Your old buddy. Art our current buddy. You're old co worker. Our current buddy. Ben so ben says a couple of weeks ago that when it all comes out about the true nature of brady's injury that will quote bill brady's legend even greater and then bruce arians says that he's looking at about june and then tom brady says one of the next five months So this. Tom brady knee thing. I don't know how big of a deal it is. Because i don't know what he's going to miss if anything and i don't know if there's not as he's not going to be able to go to where exactly able to do is his workouts in may and june or whatever. You spend a lot of time round tom. Brady is the fact that he wouldn't be able to be normal. Physical self in the off season a big deal and he'll be fine. I think he knows what he needs for his body at this plant. I also think that. And i guess i'm kind of going to contradict myself year a little bit but tom brady spent so many years in an environment that he created for himself but also had to do with how the patriots do things where you don't really take a lot of time off and there aren't veterans days in the same way that there are other teams and us on your own time quite often and then he goes to tampa and it's different and there was that story. Where in the middle of the season he was asking arians. Hey can i take. Can i take a wednesday off. Can i take a little time here at aaron saying do you want chore. Do you wanna take mental wraps or do you want to just not and brady's like i just need a day off. This'll be last time and aaron's is kind of like doesn't have to be the last time dude like you can take more if you need it and he starts to learn that maybe the cost associated with that for him at this point in his career might have been different at different times in different places but that that rest is not a bad thing. I have a hard time feeling in my heart of hearts lake. A couple lost months of you know throwing on air and working with those receivers for having a whole season together is going to up the degree of difficulty from coming in last season with everything that was changed about that offseason when he didn't know those guys and figuring it out that way and if you recall they won the super bowl so it worked out pretty. Well i've always been of the opinion of citizens podcast many times with so many little details. That tom brady wants to get right and all the stuff but after this year i now disbelieve. Nothing matters except having. Tom brady doubt the it's true. Patrick mahomes in most situations definitely definitely true with tom. Brady So i think he'll he'll figure this out in the bucks'll figured out All right we'll more nugget them throwing in here. That's not actually here Campbell when asked about who has the final roster decision to in him in new. Gm brad home said quote a true alpha knows. When it's time to concede he ex dude. Dan campbell kinda rules. I'm in on. Dan campbell me too. I love dan gable. I'm on honestly dan cable. Do you wanna come to the wringer. Nfl show i think he might. Attacks turns electric. I dunno dan chaos attack somebody who can get that answer and we'll get this figured out all right. Drew brees workout video. Oddly times a lot of people think maybe was because russell wilson set. Put the saints on his list. That drew brees did a weird kind of signifying these not done yet. Workout thing All signs point to drew brees retiring the structure of his contract. Now points to that. The words of the saints have pointed to that Over the last couple of weeks He signed a television deal whenever he's ready to leave which indicates at the very least that happening sometime soon This workout video do anything for you. It's fine and here's what i wanted to tell people. And i don't mean to be breaking news on this podcast. Sometimes people indicate things on the internet that are not reflective of the truth or reality. Now that's and. I think our breeze just invented that. Actually it's the first time in breezes. The first guy to misrepresent himself online online. Yeah but there's a first time for everything the up this is it for and this is it. We're going to have to wait until june second. June second is the day when this will likely be official but i post workout videos until then that would be so funny. I think he should also. Did you watch that video. Because there's a a large portion of it not that it's very long. There's large portion of it where his trainer seems to be like maybe he's like going pushing the slap in the wrong direction or something because his trainer just the drew go to the black go to go to the thing over and over again so it made me wonder if he was like running off in the wrong direction or something but yeah. I don't know we'll see if he just. He just throws one of these against the wall every week until june second retires and everyone feels silly but again you can't trust everything you see online kids all right. It's been there nfl show. I've been sick. This entire nora has just admirably Let off the hook. When i can't talk this has been gr- amazing. Everybody's got to play her. it sometimes. kevin did an admirable. This is my this is my is my flu game as a as producer. Isaiah said i will say that The one time. I was genuinely so because i can talk now. So it's totally fine. After the super bowl last year the niners game i was so sick. I was so upset. It on the podcast. 'cause it was on There's no way to avoid it And i was just on every single like our drug imaginable and maisarah sitting there and We just got through it like thirty minutes and everybody. At the end i got like maybe ten tweets of people because so stuffed up. Who thought i was doing like a joke. Impression of patrick mahomes. They were like where you were doing. Like mahomes his voice. And i was like no i was just really really sick and so luckily i could talk and everything was fine. Well you sound like yourself a help. You feel better kevin. It's fine really appreciate pushing through the night all right. Check out our nfl. Big board show on friday with danny hyphen standing kelly and special guests roger sherman as they breakdown trade ups for quarterbacks in the last ten nfl draft nor you were on that show last week. Yeah it was super fun. Those guys rule janney heights. Had one of the best takes that. 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Hour 1: Dak's Deal and The Cowboys' Future

"Go morning it is time to get up with great expectations. Now that he got huge money does the dallas. Qb need to play figure in order to justify it plus tag comes and goes with big names involved summer staying sober and ready to go. We'll tell you what it all meant pain. Which quarterback is ready to break the bank. Next could be the one in baltimore. We've got special guests to talk all over with you as we get up starting right now on a wednesday from the seaport jam packed. Delighted that you are there. I am greenie. thanks for getting up with. That's i got a terrific squad ready to go game tonight. Lots of football conversation leads. Get this thing rolling. We begin with the biggest winner of the nfl off season. By far his name is raine dakota prescott. Who on monday night agreed to a four year. One hundred sixty million dollar deal with the dallas cowboys. And i want you to hear a little bit of this exchange between stephen. A smith and cowboy legend. Michael irvin on stephen as world yesterday. If the dallas cowboys win the super bowl. Not only will. I n c parade in front of all those disgusted fans. Y'all i actually. What are your suits do it. I will see you at so fast. And we won't be looking so we're we to be the dallas cowboys stadium. That's right for the and we're going to be looking at so far is so fast with dr. Oh god all right and so we get this thing rolling this morning. Big swag gets up with us here. Torrey smith is becoming a regular and we could get used to that with us here and we'll have another special guest joining us momentarily. But marcus let me start with you. There's michael irvin famer cowboy. Legend saying we will be at so fi stadium for the super bowl. This year is at super bowl or bust for dak and dallas market. No not super bowl a bus this year and i don't know wh what over drinking old get home. Sometimes you get lonely and you have a couple of drinks. They the dallas cowboys will be in so five playing in the super bowl. But i do think this team got better by signing dak prescott and the bottom line is this when that gets paid. The amount of money gets paid pressure comes with that. Too much is given much is required. We've heard that so many times but the bottom line is he's giving you free service and play beyond what you paying them for the last four years. So now i'm the peter piper presser calms along with that but everything is all good in dallas texas as a fan. I'm ecstatic 'cause we have that press got backup quarterback. That's all say about that. I'll know what the hell irv was talking about. You've been a part of that thing on this program for two years. So i celebrated along with you tori. Let me ask you though about the pressure because it's one thing to say yet. He's the little engine that could everybody was rooting for him. Every wanted to see him get his money. Now one of the two or three best quarterbacks in the nfl is the pressure on you to play like it. torrey smith mean. You're talking about the dallas cowboys. He's the quarterback of america's team so the pressure is always there that doesn't change people are gonna complain more but the pressure is always been there for colonial beach. Virginia and half of my family got was mad. They have never been out of the state of virginia so the president they had each and every year on year on year. It's so we talked about mike alarming. He reminds me of so. Many delusional cowboys. Fan always had that high expectation but the reality of it. Is you know back. Prescott is a quarterback that you can't win the super bowl with and all this does is make sure that they have guy for the future. I'm with that okay. So marcus the next order of business here that i want to get into with you is very simply about the idea that the cowboys now will be for. Lack of a better word handcuffed and building out their roster now that the quarterback has paid so much. He's been working for way to not let me go ahead. You i tell people all the damn time stopped talking to me about cap numbers first of all. I don't wanna talk about cap numbers. Since i've been in the league cyz tori been in the league. Teams have figured out a way to make it work. Its own the dallas cowboys. Don't tell me about being hamstrung. The damn sales just franchise more because williams and they in modell. The united states of america when company names figuring out the dallas cowboys will be fine and actually the contract that that has gives them flexibility. Look there will be casualties in will not be this year they will get law collins bags zag martin. It'd be. I don't know how terrorists memphis feeling. But he may be bank dolphin. Sablan was injured last year. That wasn't the injured that was made everybody else before they pay day. Stop token the me about the damn tapped every team in the nfl. Go figure it out or they're going to be negative and played that season. Alright i'm i hate. You got me going like this early this morning. I don't wanna talk about cap numbers. I want to be happy for that. Okay i'm with you and listen even though we're not even in the same room right now. You have me intimidated. So i'm quietly going to say to my friend that might be loved. Big swaggie was actually wrong. No team in the. Nfl has figured it out. No team in the nfl has won a super bowl with any player making more than fifteen percent of the salary cap. Tom brady won all those super bowls because he was taking less money. Patrick mahomes less money. And all the quarterbacks get paid the huge contracts do not go on to win super bowls. That's just what has happened. I'm saying it can't but that is just what has happened tori. I mean that's and you said it perfectly saying that it can't. It's very much still possible. So we continue to punish dak prescott because he finally received the payday. He earned the cornerbacks that have been paying for years even in dallas. Tony romo was paid at that point. Which was the highest quarterback in the league it happens. That's the cost of doing business. You can compare it to real estate no matter where you are if you are an area. Let's say watched in dc where the house value was up. The house may not be the best house in the world. But you're going to have to pay the top of the market price and that's what we saw with the prescott. And he's proven that he is elite that he is a top of the market quarterback. Dallas has to do a better job in free agency and picking a smaller guys and drafting wealth. To make sure that you can balance that cat. I make it clear i agree with every word you just said. I want to doctor get every penny that he has coming to him. I am merely saying that. The idea that that hamstrings at team's ability to put a team around him. Marcus while distasteful is actually accurate is. There's really no other way to say it. No team has russell wilson azziman back to the super bowl since he got paid. These guys when the care. 'cause we we we you had this so. Do not pay the guys. That's the best guys all your. What's what's the answer. Because aaron rodgers salary did not stop the green bay packers from getting to the super bowl. It stopped them because they didn't convert three journals. That's why they didn't go to the super bowl. It wouldn't is damn salary that you pay really good quarterbacks. That's the first step to being a good football team. I'm gonna leave it at that. Gee i'm not about to go through this. Which you about talking about teams. Don't we in when they payday quarterback. I'm not doing that. Which matt ryan didn't give up twenty five point lead in the soup this damn salary there. Okay listen i'm merely don't shoot the messenger here. I'm merely telling you exactly what has happened. Let's see what happened. I'm sick all the messages and the messengers capital i will. I will accept that fully. Let me bring dan graziano under the conversation and dan. Let's run the hurry up around a bunch of notes from tag day yesterday. let's go through it. Start with alan robinson. Gallon robinson of the bears franchised as we expected. Whoever the bears quarterback ends up being this year they want that person to have alan robinson to throw to one thing that should make him feel better as his tag mobile higher than the regular wide. Receiver number becauses. Salary was high. Last year he'll get about eighteen million on this tag whereas someone like a chris godwin. Who will talk about a minute. We'll get about sixteen million kenny golladay of the detroit. Lions not a franchise not likely to sign a long term. Deal in detroit. He will hit the market and probably become the top target among the wide receivers on this year's free agent market should have a strong list of teams interested in him. I know there teams like the new york. Giants like the new england patriots big market teams with some money to spend that. Have an idea that they need to get a number one receiver and he is a guy that should appeal and chris godwin of the buccaneers. He staying in tampa which is interesting decision by tampa because they have another one to make on shaq barrett. Their edge rusher. Who is the franchise player. Last year would have been very expensive to franchise him a second year in row. They go with godwin with that tells us about tampa bay as they tried to keep their super bowl. Champion team together is that they are at work on a long term deal with shaq barrett and hope to get that done to keep him off the market by this time next week so there are a lot of those in there that i find really interesting. Marcus i look at some of the different options. Because i agree i mean golladay is a guy that a lot of teams are going to be fascinated by. But let's focus in for a minute here on tampa bay's decision to franchise chris godwin. He's not going anywhere. We had speculated on this show about the possibility that if they lead godwin go and decided to keep barrett instead. Marcus that maybe odell beckham junior would be a nice fit there because of his history with tom. Brady the admiration. The two of them have now that that doesn't feel like an option anymore. Is that your opinion. marcus peers. That odell beckham. Junior will remain in cleveland this year. The best course of action is firmness day in cleveland. Or do you still believe he finds another place to go. No i believe he finds another place to go. Gee and we think about when you don't openly endorse a player coming back. And i haven't heard cleveland do that now. I could be wrong. There could be some sound bite or clip about their of of someone in position making that decision saying that. I believe the best option for ob. Obgyn cleveland as well and i know is relationship with jarvis landry juices as strong as anything but this may be a situation in odell beckham career. Where not only does he have to come back and prove that he can have longevity but also give him a chance to go be a one somewhere in an offense that puts the ball down the field or somebody is planning on doing that and seeing if he can beat number one receiver once again from the browns side of this story as the receiver on my panel today. Do you think it makes sense for the browns to be looking to move on from odell right now. It doesn't make any sense to get rid of good players. You're talking about a team. That's right on the cusp of greatness They had the opportunity to experience the playoffs last year. And you just don't get rid of top players. A healthy odell beckham is arguably best receiver in the nfl. He's hungry you watching the way he works. I've seen a workout in the offseason. Know how passionate he is. He's a great teammate. As well he's a competitor. He has a bad rap by the media. But the reality of it is open beckham. The teammates players love for him to come back bounce back some grab us. Would that chip wounded shoulder. Also the same chip. That cleveland has near shoulder to take to the next level. They be foolish to let him go understanding that he fits within their caps situation. All right. let's see what they wind up doing. Their lot of different receivers stuff that we will get into. But then let's circle at back to the quarterback because as we check our attention to baltimore ravens. General manager eric. Decosta said yesterday. The team could strike a long term contract extension with quarterback lamar jackson this off season that he will speak to the. Mvp of a couple of years ago within the next ten days here was what the cost of said the bentley dealership or the range rover dealership. You know what the cars are going to cost. You're not going to get much of a discount. And i think he's very appreciative of the organization in our stance and different things. And we're confident and committed trying to get a long term deal done and hopefully we can get that done at some point in the near future may take a little time. But we're willing to try okay. So that's an interesting thought. Dan graziano is the cost of a bentley in the national football league as this week forty million dollars a year it could be personally never been to a bentley dealership so i know that makes me different from our other panelists here today. But look lamar. Jackson should be commanding top dollar at quarterback because he's an mvp. I if i'm his agent. And i actually don't think he has one. But if i were his agent i would be saying. Look i've got one more. Mvp trophies than deck prescott has. He's got forty so let's talk forty. I don't know if that gets you there but it's not unreasonable to start there in a conversation. Now what's interesting about lamar jackson green and i know how much marcus spears enjoys. Talking about the finances and the salary cap for mark. Jackson was the thirty second pick and address so same year and same round as baker. Mayfield who was the one pick but vastly different financial circumstances. Lamar jackson made about one fourth as much money. So far in the league as baker mayfield has this year is gonna make about five million dollars mars and make about one point. Eight million and not all of his salaries even guaranteed. That's the difference between the one thick and the thirty two pick so the ravens might find lamar jackson in a little bit of a dealing mood because he has more money yet to make than somebody who was picked first or second or third in that same draft that may be where baltimore confined its discount. If they can marcus spears. If you're making that decision are you buying that bentley. off-season absolutely one hundred percent and this is the ravens mo. in tori is. Speak to it better than i can. He was there longer but the rain say care their players especially guys that they draft and they perform well. The ravens have a history of doing this. I don't believe this'll be a contentious negotiation when it comes to lamar they understand that. He is a flight quarterback. And we know what. The market says about top-flight quarterback. So when you look at this organization's history when you look at the more has done when you think about what garage. You said about his accomplishments in this lee. Yes won't from a from a number situation it may be. It may take some time. But i don't expect us to talk for two years about the moore's jackson contract and like we had to do about that brits cuts if it doesn't get done we need a new topic tori limit. Come to you again as as something to talk about. Is there any concern. Look lamar's brilliant. He's been a brilliant player and to grass's point. He has been by the standards of what he has done. He's been dramatically underpaid for what he has done but he also gets hit a lot more because of the nature of the way he plays. He gets hit a lot. More than a lot of other quarterbacks do if you were writing the check would that give you any pause not at all you know. This guy was the mvp of the league and he's shown that he has limitless potential steel. So this city loves lamar jackson's death organization loves the believes that him as well. So i think it's something that's going to be half that's going to happen. But it's just a matter of when lamar jackson doesn't have the leverage that some of the other guys have had and the reason why i'm saying that is that i remember. When joe flacco was the quarterback and he was looking for his his extensive he was going into his last year was just a little short of that number. That made them play it out. We wanted super bowl and he ended up being highest paid quarterback leaves. Lamar jackson was the mvp already in his way. More competent joe was at that point in terms of on the field. And what the team is accomplished. Now you're talking about a guy that has its fourth year left to play. They can given that fifth round option because he was the first round pick they can franchise two more years. So lamar doesn't really have the same leverage. As most quarterbacks will put a team it does make sense to get things done now before the new tv deals. Because you have more money in the back burner. And as we know quarterbacks senator highest paid now at this president of it next year their top five then it goes to the top. Ten number just continues to push forward market super-quick pause based upon the style of play again. You're writing the check. He's a guy who gets hit a lot where they give you any pause. Not at all not at all. I heard people talk about that. Press guy getting hit too much when he was in his negotiation contract. Look they they are not a good offense without lamar jackson. That's what it boils down to. I still say. I will hold the failure. Your tape is your resume and your tape is your deposits that you make it into. The bank. lamar's made a lot of really big deposits in baltimore is going to be at some point. It's going to be tapped him to draw in this comment. Well this is that group right. This is that draft class graziano quickly here that this draft class of baker mayfield sam darnold. Who's not in this same conversation right now. But particularly josh allen lamar jackson should we expect to see both of those guys before we get to training camp next year potentially sign new huge extensions. Yeah i think it's likely look. I mean look at this off season two years ago. Carson wentz jared goff signed extensions and they're traded by now two years ago dak prescott did not sign an extension and obviously the cowboys paid for that. So you can make either argument. But i think ultimately these teams that have these quarterbacks. Don't wanna lose them and it's more likely than not those three guys get extended this off-season probably well. Don't we have so much more football to come a very special guest to talk football with us as we continue but right now always champi. Let's run the floor college edition and pick it up here. They were down by twelve at halftime to byu. But unbeaten a number one gonzaga stormed back in the second half the beat. Byu by ten and win the west coast conference tournament clinching. An automatic nc double a. Birth will go in. Is the number one overall see elsewhere after snapping string of four straight twenty loss seasons. Congratulations that cleveland state. Vikings going dancing reading. Oakland eighty two sixty nine to win the horizon league. It's their first conference title since two thousand nine cutting down the next you know. There's going dancing. Drexel headed back to the ncaa tournament for the first time in twenty five years beat ilan sixty three fifty six in the championship. Game of the colonial. Last time they made the double a. Tournament was nineteen ninety six. Meanwhile in the acc ten see duke. Blew out boston college to begin. Its quest of winning five straight games in the acc tournament. Something no team has ever done ducas. Twelve and eleven will likely have to win out in order to get into the nc double a. tournament. And here's what's at stake with that dukes. Current ron twenty four straight seasons making the danes is the third longest streak all time. Our analytics are basketball. Power index giving duke just a twenty five percent chance to make the tournament and our wakeup call. This morning comes from the acc tournament. Notre dame wake forest. Here's how the finish sounded voice about it on ryan williamson by ryan cuts back ryan over the irish irish eighty. Seventy seven the irish data The madness is beginning back to the. Nfl we'll go next with the seahawks. Sending a message to russell wilson by leaving his name out of it. We'll get to the bottom of the situation in seattle plus counting down to the draft. One quarterback being compared to russell wilson. Is it high or hope we're talking about it as we get up with you on. 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He is a musician. Who stays in shape by running obstacle course while playing a variety of instruments. Wanting it you think gee you don't work together. We need emergency help if we did this. Because i remember going to that country club you had no way in a. Are we doing this without bold was being passed out. I can tell you that coming up that got everything he wanted. Who are the true winners and losers. Now that the deal is done we'll break down next get up on. Espn we are back on. Get up with yet. Another twist in the russell wilson saga earlier this week by now. You are aware of this letter that was sent to season ticket. Holders that mentioned by name multiple players on the seattle team and curiously did not mention the name of its franchise quarterback the face of that franchise russell wilson. What does that mean. we're going to get to the bottom of it. And we are delighted to have that conversation by welcoming in the newest member of our panel. Along with marcus spears and torrey smith white franey has joined us live this morning and is getting up with us here seems not to be looking at me but my sense is either. He is completely put a back. I'd like to see how this goes either completely uninterested or his shot was frozen. I think it would have been funnier if he was just so disinterested introduction of him that he just continued looking down at income back to us again. This is tv in two thousand and twenty one. We are doing the best we can to bring into this conversation today. But instead marcus i will start with you because i did not have yesterday. So the seattle seahawks sent out a letter to their season ticket holders and they mentioned a bunch of guys and they don't mention russell. What is that first of all. Let me say it is. Don't feel bad about having to come in and replace dwight own on because he would've damn show started over me but let's get to seattle. 'cause this is blatant okay. We had the deck situation with the highlight video. And i understood that gets. that's not under contract. it was a bad look for the dallas cowboys. Talked about this situation. Russ's the face of the franchise like this is petty roses. Petty and seahawks will be fitting. And i liked that part because a messy. I like when betty on when you think about this situation and you think about how everything is transparent. I don't think this is a mistake. I think this is something that they planned on doing. Based on ruts dropping these low crumbs that he's been dropping about the situation. Here's what i won't rust. The do i want to say what russ wants. I don't wanna hear it would be nice and these are the four teams would you like. Would you like more input. I'd just answer the question. Just tell us what you won't mant other. Quarterbacks are doing it totally eagles what. He wanted the shawn watson. Dole used to what he wanted. If you want to be traded if you want outta seattle rush just say it so we can stop thinking about what you wanna do. Or what the possibilities. Aw not saying this is going to happen. But i need to say was going to happen. Gee real quick my wife right now. Start making me coffee in the morning. She put c moss in it. I didn't know what was i told her. Listen if you put the awesome. My coffee and the coffee nasty. I ain't drake ac- muslim. Oh she said mortgage just travel shut up and just try to see moss but the bottom line is this. Gee if. I didn't like the see moss. I would tell her. Don't put it in my coffee no more. I need to tell seattle. Seahawks what he wants. How did you like the cmos. Okay okay. excellent story to you on this. What do you think last week. You said you think. Russell wilson is the most passive aggressive passive aggressive anger. You've ever seen a football player. Have what do you think. Now that they seahawks seem to a fire back in kind in the social media world is a guy. Enjoy spending time on twitter. They call that a tweet. They're telling you something without actually saying it. And so when you leave Franchise player of your team. It says a lot and it speaks volumes without them even mentioning anything so what that confirms to me is just beyond just russell bill and this is a real concern if i were a seattle seahawks fan. I'll be worried if my guy is serious about leaving russell group with you markets rust nieces go and say hey listen i want out or we're going to figure this thing out you can't have this in-between type situation. It just gives us. I really don't mind it but when it comes to your team you want to know what the deal is going forward and the best way to go about it. And now it's like you're not alone. All the quarterbacks are doing if you went out to say you went up. It's an interesting point. A lot of guys are saying things without saying things. Okay i believe we have dwight freely with us here. We've been trying all morning long. Dwight his he's moving. I can hear him. This is a step in the right direction and i want everyone to get an understanding of just. How great our panelists today do you know that the left side of your screen. Dwight frene marcus spears and their careers combined for one hundred and thirty five and a half quarterback sacks how about that from this defense that we have here today. Marcus your thoughts on that. He got by. Do i got one hundred twenty five and a half. Contribute to your go i love. I'll call dwight a. Have you been working on the tech stuff all morning. Long in the middle of the discussion about this matter what you played most of your career in indianapolis we will always remember those great seasons. You had in india and you were a great player but was there ever a circumstance in which the colts would have sent a letter to their season ticket. Holders that did not mention peyton manning's name absolutely never never i don't understand. I don't understand what seattle's doing be quite honest with you. I do know this. They don't move without russell. I don't see them doing anything without russell. Based on how their team is structured. And i was over there for a few months and it's pretty much went up played breaks down. Russell just makes the plate with his feet and it's a lot of creativity they don't have a guy like that do organization or out there in the market so for me russell. Yes he's voicing his concern of how he's not involved in the offensive process. Maybe played calling. Maybe the people you guys pick up. I have no idea but it's going to be is very hard for me to think in picture a seattle seahawks team without russell. Rose i can tell you this. Marcus that everyone i know in chicago feels like it's already happened right like like they. The fans are ordering russell wilson jerseys and this deal isn't happening. Whatever it is so there is a feeling i think out there. This is going to happen. Marcus in your heart of hearts do you believe he gets traded this off season. No i don't believe he gets tradegy. I think at some point this all works out. And if i was a chicago bears fan. I already think is done to. We've been looking for a quarterback for the last forty years in that organization. So listen russell wilson to me by saying all it is and that's that's the point right like if russ is not going to say i want out. Then there's always that big enough great area to say it's too many things that have to happen for him to be out right then you get into money. What teams are willing to give up to get him. And i'm sure teams would give up things but this is this is like this is one of those things where russ has the realize like tour was in a way the climate you're in now allows for you to help me out will make a decision about if you will be. There are not by what you do so if he says it then i believe it's real but as long as we keep having these roundabout maybe maybe not. This is how feel even about the letter. He'll be there for this year and potentially we'll be talking about a serious deport signature. I thought more about what you said there as as we were talking. And you're right the one thing dak prescott the omission video. He isn't the greatest player in franchise history. Russell wilson with no disrespect to steve largest. Jim zoran matthew hasselbeck and shaun alexander is the greatest player the seattle seahawks have ever had and so the omission of him. At this point it cannot be ignored. Right guy stay with me here. Much more football as we go but next game of the night to the national hockey league we go penguins and rangers and sidney crosby taking ending attribute early second game tied at one the pen shorthand and watch the move here you got teddy and blue gert with a strong move in front of that goes five whole you need to look again at particularly look at as he gets out in front and makes the gorgeous move again five whole his fourth goal of the season pens. Take a two one lead under a minute left in the game now. The pens lead is three to we got an empty net. We got sidney crosby and that is all she wrote hands win it by a score of four to their now in third place in the eastern division as we continue our the browns say they want a bill back. What do you expect him to say. The real question is what the swag who say. You'll find out next get up on. Espn what does swag say. Do you know what i say. I say daniel jones gangsta land g. Look at me today. i'm already obese. So beastie i call you broke. Yes you cry. This is not exactly how i meant for this to go. Take that and smoke it now. We really get to it. This is where we hear what people around the world of sports have to say. And then marcus tells you what they really meant. And we begin marcus with the browns head. Coach seven kevin stefanski who was recently asked on k. j. z. On espn radio about odell beckham. In jarvis landry is high cap numbers and whether the browns could keep both of them this off season. Here's what he said. I think you go with what you have. And and you make sure that you're putting yourself in position to feel the competitive roster for a bunch of years moving forward so yeah. I think we're in a good spot. You know the easy part to say. Hey just gives more players what we want. Give three more great players on the offensive side and give us three on the defensive side. And we're going to spend this amount on each guy. I think we have a plan will follow through with that plan. So that was a lot of words. Markus that's what he said. What does wag who say. All right analogy mr spears. A you have a one credit. You've done a phenomenal job. Getting yourself to this position. You have the cast. We just can't sell your home like what you get all these damn compliment. You know what kind of play i am and you tell me. I can't get the loan about a house. That's basically what kevin stefanski said. He sound like somebody that bills jaw to let down by not ever release saying anything so that is why i think one. Ob j. will not be a cleveland brown. I completely agree next. Stop is baltimore. Where the ravens general manager eric. Decosta was asked yesterday what that prescott new deal might mean for lamar jackson. Here's what he said. If you go to the bentley dealership or the range rover dealership. You know what the car is going to cost. You're not going to get much of a discount. And i think he's very appreciative of the organization and in our stance and different things and we're confident and committed trying to get a long term deal done and hopefully we can get that done at some point. Yeah no in. The near future may take a little time but we're willing to try at what he said. Water swag who say okay guys. Listen i've been to the bentley dealership. I went to the dealership. When i was making really good money playing professional football and then i actually went in there and was getting ready to purchase the car and could not wrap my head around paying six figures but aaron the costco go have to. If it ain't the bill the dealership go to cross the street and ferrari dealership. Because that's what he got playing quarterback and he knows that so he ain't talking about or tie iota not saying they ain't good cause and people getting around it them just fine but he knows damn well. He met a thought at dealership. And he may end up buying a ferrari. I think that's an extremely perfect way to put it all right. Finally who didn't love this. Did you see your body orlowski. Yesterday he had this to say after having been all wrong all along about dak prescott and dallas. This is for tad prescott. Leave me alone. This is for cowboys fans. I wear your colors. Leave me alone in my mentions this is for guys like graziano importantly this is for my arch nemesis dominique foxworth on television. Who got egg on his face. What dan said yesterday. Marcus swag who say you know. This is a special one for but this is all four circle that moment right there america. Is dan orlovsky four. I'm gonna take you back in time g. Remember when you were at at bats show and dan orlovsky pulled out a trash bag and norway people takes about carson wentz and then he gave us these trash takes about dak prescott and when you give them dress takes and when people give takes and they not trash you end up with a damn egg on your hand. So that was everybody. That dan orlovsky drove through their trash takes away about wins and we all kept that record of all of the things about that prescott a sticky head from a sticky aid. That's exactly right. He took he took responsibility. G i tell you i lost you. I can hear you perfectly in keeping with issues. We've had on the show today because candidly nothing is working right. Let's do winners and losers and see if that works coming out of the dak prescott deal. Dan grassi on. You can hear me. Give me a winner. Coming out of jack's contract. I can hear you just sitting here. Googling see moss but the winners are are star players coming up on contract situations and other situations in the league in the coming years. This is one more data point that tells players. You have more control over your situation than we used to think you did as people who follow the nfl dak prescott. Didn't like the deal. The cowboys put in front of him. Two years ago or last year he held out he got what he wanted and more players will follow suit. Marcus who do you think is the biggest winners josh allen. And lamar jackson. They sold dak prescott doubt they saw dak prescott go through the process. They dak prescott bet on themselves now. I don't believe there. Negotiations are gonna take as long as daggs did but they saw the money he got the market still works. The market still matters in the market can get you more money than you probably should get right like the aforementioned bentley and ferrari grazziano how about the losers who is the biggest losers out of all this. Well yeah. I think if you're if you're another high earning player on the cowboys you're looking down the road and wondering how much longer am i going to be on the cowboys. Dak prescott salary cap. Numbers will skyrocket in twenty. Three and twenty. Four ezekiel elliott. No more guaranteed money. After twenty two amari. Cooper guaranteed money after this year. Are those guys going to need to start shopping for real estate in different markets than dallas. That feels realistic. How about you swagger. Who's the biggest losers g my biggest losers but not in a bad way on the ravens and the bills because of what i just said previously. They going to have to pay their quarterbacks. These young up and coming stars. That's gonna be the faces of this league franchises for them. They have to come off some money. So now you go into. You have to draft great. You have to get creative. You have to figure out free ages guys. They can come in and they help you. They about the being that window is good window to be in. Because it tells you that they have a franchise quarterback right but for every good side of it. There are obviously some of the challenges. And so on bring dwight and tori back into the conversation and white because of some technical stuff. We didn't have you at the very beginning of our show today when we were talking about that the ramifications of this deal in dallas. And what is your thought on that. It is my experience at all of you. Who made your living sacking quarterbacks down deep inside really sort of hate them so as you see a guy like jack as you see a guy like that getting all this money and in all seriousness and the ramifications that can have. What are your thoughts. I mean i think it's a great thing i mean. I think it was a long long overdue. You have a guy who stood up for their organizations than all the right things you know what you gotta pay your guys. You know an trickles down throughout your your organization as well you see you take care of your quarterback and take care of you guys. Those guys on the team also feel like you know what when it's my time get paid. I'm gonna get paid as well for the thing. Is you have to have a stable organization. A god who's gonna lead that team and now you have that guy deck. That does the now for did about all the stuff that happened previously all the problems and now since you signed on down the line you have to think about how you gonna take this organization to the next. It becomes his team now right away that perhaps he wanted it to be and i think maybe his teammates already perceived it to be but until they actually give you the keys to the car to use that same analogy. We were using a moment ago. You're not allowed to drive it on the lot. Well now he can. Does that change. Anything no doesn't everyone knew that this was back steam. And even jerry jones and the cowboys new this vaccine. They just kept playing around with the money. And that's the way this business work. That's why hate the fake deadlines the franchise tag people. What do they can get the deal done. And we saw that so now with something that we aren't going to be able to talk about for the next couple of year but that finally got what he earned. And now we talked about the quarterback position specifically when you play. Well when you represent your team will you get paid. That's like a circle of life in the nfl. You develop you get paid and so we shouldn't be surprised that we're finally here and again. I'm one of the biggest fans of that. I'm glad that he finally did well. Just very briefly on that you seem to get a lot of people exercised on twitter yesterday. Which i get the sense you sort of enjoy. But you do not seem to be a fan of the franchise tag. What is your issue. With the franchise. I hate the franchise. Tag it's why are you giving up control as a player. You draft there where you're drafting. You don't have a choice of word you picked or were you. Signed as a free agent push far. So you're there now. You have this control so i signed my four year deal. I played well. I'm supposed to be able to get paid based on the market value. Not what you tell me the average of some of the top guy. That's why the the probably it controls player. That's why when. I saw yesterday specifically why i was thinking about a guy who deserves the opportunity to break the bank on the free market. Now he's forced to be in a situation in chicago simply because they have that tag. Everything about the free market is about control is about power the football world and it's supposed to work by that in america and now when you talk about alibaba's he lose control now. The team has that power opium. Why do we even had that. I hate it. A guy doesn't they're supposed to do they're supposed to get paid. I'm being told in my ear that you guys are nodding crazy dwight. While you're nodding you agree. Oh absolutely i mean you have to have more control of the players more control and the owners don't need more control you guys. If you play out your contract you do what you're supposed to do all right. You're supposed to get a new contract. That's everything right football franchise tag. I just more power to the owners more ways that they can keep you not you know. Hey i don't know if you want to give you the big money And all this other stuff. I agree one thousand percent. They need to get rid of this franchise tag thing and just straight off your contracts done you the region or the market marquess. I mean. I can't add anything Other than i agree with tori into why the bottom line is like that that that is how it should be the allotment for owners and nfl teams to buy themselves time to pay. A guy is crazy. Because if i was a player and i say okay well you want to franchise tag me. I'm gonna sit out and by myself time until i'm actually a free agent. We'll say player crazy. He ain't a team guy and all of that and essentially. That's what these organizations are doing. So look i hate the franchise say always have and it doesn't give player's opportunity to get what they should at the time. They should have to break on that thought but we have much more to do as we continue still to come here. Another huge our debt gets dollars is at super bowl or bust now in dallas one cowboys. Legend says yes. You'll hear that coming up on. Espn do you own your home. Sure you do. Fortunately geico makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Geico dot com easy.

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Free Agent Predictions + Dak's New Contract, ARob & Godwin Tagged - Fantasy Football Podcast for 3/11

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Free Agent Predictions + Dak's New Contract, ARob & Godwin Tagged - Fantasy Football Podcast for 3/11

"Hey for clan. It's always good time to avoid the hustle and the bustle at the grocery store. Not to mention the crowds hellofresh delivers everything. You need to get dinner on the table directly to your door. Contact free go to hellofresh dot com slash footballers twelve and use. The code footballers twelve for twelve. Free meals including free shipping. Well to the fantasy footballers podcast with your hose. Andy holloway jason moore and my migrate. Oh come in. Andy and a bear coming at you. It's been a while since we've had j. grizz in the studio Yeah i mean if feels a little bit nicer in here without. There's not an air of hair superiority in the room right. Jay bilas clearly hairier than mike. But doesn't hold it over us that mike does correct. Exactly so Jason and i j says we have it on lockdown today. This is a free agency show today a lay of the land if you will and our predictions on where some of these free agents will go which is always very exciting. Yeah these things matter and as football fans we we wanna know. What's what's happening and as fantasy players this is really valuable to just keep in through this offseason as we go like who are all the free agents which ones matter which ones do we expect to change teams or stay on the same teams it's cetera and so the lay of the land will be given today. Yeah and it's always exciting. When big names changed teams. Last year we saw deondraye hopkins with the trade air zona. Then you start to you. Know get into the predicting in the you know. Just our mindset changes to where we can see the best outcome for these players on their new teams but it doesn't always work out that way. Sometimes they take the money and they end up in a worse situation. Yeah i would say. Historically the majority of big free agent shifts are negative for fantasy they. The players got paid a lot of money because they were already great. So usually best case scenario is they stay great but they more often than not aren't. Don't live quite up to that expectation. So maybe that will end up a silver lining for some of the franchise player news that we have today. Yes absolutely you can find us on twitter at the f. f. ballers and i encourage you to do so you can check out the website. Fantasy football dot com player profiles up there and get ready for your draft at ultimate draft kit dot com do some sell j. buy or sell presented my pristine auction. Well this is a franchise tag addition of buy sell and we almost had this show on tuesday. Yes in fact. We were originally support like our calendar. We've gotta show calendar. We were going to do this show earlier this week. We made the decision last minute decision. Yeah based on kind of where the news was and what was going on to to kind of push it back a couple of days in well. That was a good. That was a great decision. Yeah the reason we did that is we knew that there would be some franchise tag decisions being made and we didn't wanna come on here. Make a bunch of predictions that just fell flat. Now we will still do that right but let you're few because like we will no longer chris. Godwin and alan robinson's destinations direct. Oh that's true. The buccaneers the sign. The franchise tag to chris godwin. The bears did the same down robinson. Godwin will end up being paid around fifteen point eight million dollars allen robinson eighteen million dollars to stay in chicago reaction. Jason my reaction is kenny. Golladay as a free agent no franchise tag for kenny g. the detroit lions. Let him know they're not gonna place it on him and he is officially a free agent and now can you imagine how happy he is because like there were three big name wide receivers on the market. Well that's true now like bell the ball that's right you want me you pay me. Oh yeah he's going to Make some money right well. He's kinney jeep after all for those of you like part of the show today. We'll we'll talk about some of the basics of this time period in the nfl. Just so that you're up to speed so that you understand what we're talking about the franchise tag you're probably familiar with it from a monetary perspective It's a one year deal. A guarantees the player the average of the top five highest paid players that their position or one hundred and twenty percent of their previous year's salary whichever is higher which is why these two franchise tagged players are getting paid. Different amounts in allen. Robinson and chris godwin. Yeah and so you. Basically have until july fifteenth to sign franchise tagged players to long-term deals said accurate. That's right so alan robinson. He's still hoping for a long term. Deal chris godwin. It's not a guarantee their only on a one year deal But i would say the majority of time. When people are franchise tagged it ends up being a one year deal unless tag indexed press. Reid is being used as a tool. Like dak is technically franchise. But they came to agreement on a big new fatty contract like they took the franchise tag like the paperwork the legal paperwork and they they all did it in pencil. You know what i mean. They're just like yeah. We're going to go through the hoop here but we knew where we're headed now. Do you think that the one year case will be the case for godwin in robinson. I think either one ends up with a long term deal. I do not think either one ends up with a long term deal by whatever that data's july fifteenth all right. So here's the buy-sell. Chris godwin in allen robinson back where they were are they top fifteen wide receivers and twenty twenty one. Okay now. are we taking this individually. Like a by itsel on each they both have to be. Are they both top. Fifteen wide receivers because look it was a down year for godwin. Coming off of the breakout year in which he was arguably the best wide receiver in the game. Yes it was injuries i would. I would credit most of it to injuries. The first half of the season godwin dealt with a ton of different injuries missed several games. If you look from week nine. On at that point forward he was just healthy. Played the the entire rest of the season during that stretch. He was the wide receiver fourteen. So he's inside the top fifteen threshold. Were coming up with not that arbitrarily because if you if you look at both of these players they tied each other with thirteen point two fantasy points per game which was exactly wide receiver fifteen o on a per game on a per game basis. This is very arbitrary. Okay so with godwin. I feel like there is nowhere to go but up. I can't imagine him having a worse season next year now that was pro points per game. You're saying obviously finished. I think wide receiver thirty two. Because he missed right. You throw out due to injury. But i presume antonio brown will not be back and or rob gronkowski. At least one of them just financially speaking about the everlasting arm though when will that noodle up from my understanding of the version of the word everlasting leave that it will not dry up and i'm sick of. I think it was like sixteen years ago at this point now when i Predicted the end. Oh yeah the end of The patriots tom brady in Fooling the patriots is how it panned out Yes so i. When i look at these players if i had to pick one to be better next year between them actually prefer allen robinson as to why. I did not expect that from me though right. Because i've been over the last couple of years the allen robinson. Hater is the wrong word like the the speaker of truth. That's how i would call it. Relist the real damore. Yeah i. We've had lots of debates about alan robinson because there's this aspect of his pure talent which i think we all agree as outstanding top five probably in pure wide receiver talent. I believe so But then you know you've had a lot of his production has come due to insane targeting and so you would made some arguments during the year that that. Maybe some of that value is exaggerated due to target volume. If that changes you know i remember. Yea the mean things you've said about him that were based in fact the the the reality is once again had over one hundred fifty targets and i believe he's had four seasons now where he played sixteen games all of them outside of the rookie season over one hundred and fifty targets. So he is. I mean we we remember. Was it two thousand twelve when we nicknamed him Target monster that was his official nickname stuck and the reality is. He's had bad quarterback play. He's going to continue to have bad quarterback play no matter you know the the bears. The bears aren't getting russell wilson. No sorry chicago fans. Okay hundred two receptions. I see a frown robinson. Twelve hundred yards six touchdowns. He had one hundred fifty one targets. He's getting paid eighteen million dollars. Do we think robinson has it worse than he really does. Yeah yeah we we. Because he doesn't have it he's got it pretty high hundred and fifty targets your the alpha you in one hundred two receptions and twelve hundred fifty yards like the fans i know he wants to win but fantasy community just want stats and you think okay. If he's taught how can it get for him really. Well this is like the juju with antonio brown season. How put alan robinson on whatever team you want. Put them on green bay. Does it get better than one. Hundred and two for twelve fifty and six probably not. He would need to be the alpha for a good quarterback so really. Here's the best case in the best case. Scenario is the bears. Get a good quarterback. Xactly the bears get russell wilson shawn watson or you know. Somehow they swing old. Oh yeah this is. A lot of bears talk. Yeah but but speaking of nick foles right. Now you're like. Oh they don't even have a quarterback. We don't know who it's gonna be. Nick foles is under contract. Nick foles is currently the starter. And if you actually look on a per game basis where robinson play. The best was with nick foles. He was had a higher target volume yards. Same touch release. He was better with nick. Foles felt better as an allen. Robinson manager late in the season when mitch took the job back. It was surprising when i looked at up today but he averaged almost inr ear last year. No just last season average almost three fantasy points more per game With nick foles. Maybe that's just. Because when nick foles started games you kinda knew what the ceiling was going to be for that game and he was still going to be the best receiver. But you weren't gonna get special all right by our cell. I'm officially going to buy both as top fifteen. I will by both as top fifteen but barely barely when it is a great long j. brazil happy to hear you say that all right now airlie. Oh i see a. It's better to explain the well. He's bear right. No no thank you thank you that was brought to you by our a pristine auction use our code ballers when you over to pristine auction dot com and they'll give you ten dollars towards Any piece of sports memorabilia. Pop culture. I i wanted like michael. Jordan signed awesome. You could do that But if i signed up with ballers what. I get dollars aud Cool you're smart. Let's talk news news and notes from around the league. All right you mentioned earlier the cowboys and dak prescott have agreed to a four year. Deal worth up to one hundred and sixty million dollars tied. With patrick mahomes for third. Highest compensation or completion percentage knock compensation. You can't tie with patrick. Mahomes compensation this is an interesting deal for dallas. It was one that had to happen. Four years is not a lot because the way these deals work. Is you know you. You lock dak. You're not talking about it. For what two years right. But then you're talking about it again. And that was the biggest. Sticking point was ironic. it's so funny because again they were franchised tagging him and that was the big. No no because you want the big long term deal but ironically one of the sticking points was that dak didn't want a five year deal wanted a four year deal because he's smart and knows his salary. Cap is only going to continue to go up over the next several years. He'll be a nice young age when his contract is up. And he's going to get a contract that makes this one looks silly and dumb and small and stupid all right. So dak is the quarterback in dallas. But that's great news these great news. We all assumed it. But it's nice to have it happen the rest of the stat that i confused. Compensation for a moment was that he's tied with patrick. Mahomes for the third highest completion percentage for the first four plus years in the nfl so that's impressive. kurt warner. In their shawn watson. in their couple of veteran wide receivers have been released. Jason emmanuel sanders. John brown both released by the saints in the bills. You're gonna see a lot of this happening. We talked about it. These salary cap came in. It is official. It is lower than what it was last season. That's the first time that it's a lot down in. I don't know forever going down. It dropped from one hundred ninety. Eight point two million to one hundred and eighty two point five million. Yeah and so. You're gonna see a lot of players like this. That are cap casualties. We've seen them already. Kyle rudolph often so emmanuel sanders. John brown it's going to be a hard free agency market for them. Imagine someone the age of manual sanders probably done could be unless he wants to go. Take a little one year veteran deal someplace to try to win a championship. That's true it could replace antonio brown. No that's that is a perfect situation like that adept somewhere. But you're right. You're going to see more of this and it will provide opportunities for those players that are inexpensive inexperienced back behind. These veterans davis. Gabriel davis You can just say you don't even have to pretend to sneeze. That's that's all. There is really no reason for that but go because that's supposed to be secretive for like kenya. Trade for gabriel davis. Now or is it. Oh no you can for sure okay. Good he's done nothing really right then. Why do but You know. Mike is not here today. Probably googling adam trautmann pictures at his house emmanuel sanders. Who's gonna catch the ball in new orleans. Well here's the three players we know it's not going to be. It's not going to be emmanuel sanders. Snark it'll be jared cook. Yeah and who is the other title. Just joshua josh l. is not going to be here because they're not on the team anymore. So adam trautmann looking like more important piece of the oftens. All right Ryan fitzpatrick does want to play again. We weren't sure if we'd have to say some final words about him. Moving on there. Were some retirement rumors from john clayton but he says he plans to play. Thank goodness yeah. We need him. It's good for america. Yeah so i'm brain. I don't think there's any other news that we should cover the new england. Patriots picked up trent brown for nothing right fifth. Not even for a fifth round. Pick for a fifth seventh swap. Yeah like that's why every team out there. Meaning of tackle help is like wait. Why didn't you maybe tell everybody that you were open. Trade maybe gotten a little more with the market was But it's gonna be fun to look at The entire market. See what team needs are. And who's going where. Andy i think i think i will get one hundred percent correct and you will get all of the picks that you say the same thing as me correct okay. That's how i think it's going to happen. But before we get to our free agency. Predictions wanna thank. Today's sponsor hellofresh. We've all used them forever. You get fresh. Fresh honey measured in grants thrash soups phrase mouth-watering seasonal recipes. Delivered right to your door cuts down on. Waste makes it so easy to skip the lines at the grocery store. It's fun it's easy. Could cook as a family. It's affordable it's actually twenty percent cheaper than shopping at your local grocery store and seventy two percent cheaper than a restaurant meal without sacrificing quality. So you're getting high quality stuff here. They offer ten to twenty minute meals. Low prep recipes quick breakfasts and lunches perfect for the busy schedule and over twenty five different recipes every week. That you get to pick from you're going to love it. 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Yeah so an unrestricted free agent. That means they're they're on the market. A restricted free agent means. The players can sign an offer sheet with another team but their current team can keep them on the roster by signing him to a restricted tender yup and then an exclusive rights. Free agent is not one. That's the way i look. It's a free agent wink. Yeah yeah the basically means they can be a free agent if the team wants to let them go right so they have no control. They're like as far away. From what a free agent is as humanly possible except for they've got the name exclusive rights free agent. So i think he'll have rights is is really attached to the team. The team has exclusive right. That's right yeah. They have no rights. That's correct And then when we say cap hit and dead money what are we talking about their so a cap. It's not necessarily what the players being paid. It's what they count towards the cap that season dead money is guaranteed money left on a like they're not on the roster but they're still counting against the cap. There will be a lot of that going on like for instance carson wentz has dead cap. Hit right now on the eagles. I believe right for gross. Lots of money Just away of the land here i. I mentioned that the cap had changed. This year will impact the money made and free agency as well as some of these releases that are going to happen to veterans and players and restructuring and all that the top five teams cap space wise jacksonville number. One new england just barely behind jacksonville. The jets the colts and the bengals are the top five teams and the The bottom five in debt trying to figure out their way out of debt getting to the cap number The worst the rams right now than the saints eagles bears and chiefs and most of the time these teams do figure it out. They figure it out and they Maneuver their way. The way that drew brees Even if he might retire he restructured some things so that the team has cap flexibility. And then it'll happen after the june first deadline at july. first one of those and then You know it'll move. Eleven million off of their cap space so the truth is we've done this for years and most every year i look at what teams have available cap space and think they're the only team that can sign important players and then all of a sudden a team that seems like they have no cap space signs. An important player happens every year. I don't know how they do it. Voodoo magic sheeting is my guest but You know if you're if you're a fan of the saints and you're like oh no we're super under You know we know cap room. You'll be able to do something you figured out all right couple of important dates before we start the breakdown position by position. Monday the fifteenth with coming quickly. That is when the legal tampering period begins. Which is when a lot of news going to break because that is when teams were permitted to enter contract negotiations. And you're going to have reports of signings. yeah. I mean usually over the last The more recent ears. That's opening a free agency. Like free agency doesn't officially open until that wednesday the seventeenth. That's when they can actually sign the paperwork but really. I think it's it's going to be when the legal tampering period opens up. But you can always be frank board. Never say i'm gonna sign with you win. The league year starts within not do that right. Frank gore was a philadelphia eagle during the legal tampering period. Before he signed with the colts it was announced he agreed to terms and yada yada and then a couple of days later thing. I want to go with the colts. So and then league your starts two days later. Officially in that is win official signings will happen. And that is the seventeenth of march and free agencies official at that point all right. Most of our predictions are going to be in the running back. Wide receiver tight end department creek lay of the land though at the quarterback position lot of quarterback needy teams also a draft in which. I think there will be four first round quarterbacks drafted. Maybe i'd say five five i would. I would say there will be five drafted. So that'd be lawrence wilson fields trae lance. Yes and then who's the fifth trae land mack jones. Yeah so that there is that it's possible there are teams that are in a position where they have a quarterback you're looking to the future like atlanta alana's in the department and then you have teams carolina chicago denver jacksonville new england. New orleans could be looking to the future jets. You've teams that forty niners. I was gonna say. They've got a quarterback in the hate them right forty niners carolina panthers. Yeah and obviously at the top of the draft. There's going to be so you know it's like okay. The carolina panthers are looking for a quarterback and You know the the bears look for quarterback. Denver desperately needs one. There's there's not really a free agent market to fill to fill the need you've got jay. We're talking about that a lunch today and didn't really feel like there was a free agent quarterback that would be sought after you'd rather draft somebody and save the money right because the two main guys out there and free agency or jameis winston and mitchell. Trubisky now mitchell trubisky is the worst and has has truly solidified that he is not a franchise quarterback and. I'm not sure if he's better than james. So personally my love for jameis. Winston knows very few bounds. That it's willing to stay behind I would love to see him to the patriots and just i for science for science. Let's have james winston. Tom brady swap teams and see what happens. But the reality is those aren't players on the free agent market. They're gonna cost a lot more than a rookie. Would that will guarantee fix anybody's franchise. So most of the teams are looking to the draft or the trade area. Trying to get into shawn watson or russell wilson or behind that it could be a situation. Where derek carr or jimmy garoppolo because based on what happens in the draft. If they're cut. I will say this. We had a show five years ago. That albor lynn found where the question was essentially pick a player in fantasy football. And you have to have them on your ostra for ten straight years And at the time. My answer was russell wilson. Andrew locks name came up in that discussion. He retired jameis. Winston's name came up by someone not named mike and andy or j. grizz. Oh narrows it down owl you you cam. Newton's name had come up at the time. This was five years ago but one thing that came out of that and it was still interesting. Is that cam newton's younger than russell wilson do you. do you feel that. Isn't that an incredible. I mean it just doesn't seem that way because we feel like cam has come and gone. Yeah cam seems done. Du you in. And that's because his his ability to throw the ball has gone away. He he hurt his shoulder. Zad shoulder surgery and oh it's not the shoulder it's the foot. Obviously he's been dealing with a lot of injuries over the last couple of years which you know we. We all saw coming due to his place style. He is a mack truck. That's going out there and rushing for you. Know eight nine hundred yards and plowing people over. It's it's hard to stay healthy through that but when you watch them throw the ball now he doesn't have it so he is technically a free agent. I can't imagine he's a solution for anybody. Yeah the thirty. Eight year old ryan. Fitzpatrick is more of a solution. Yeah i think. My answer was odell beckham to the ten year question. But i didn't hear you more. I don't like that it was. I was wrong. Yeah you're exploring. Yeah you're exploring damis winston. It's abby i don't blame you five years and kicking the tire. Yeah i still. I still don't want to see it. You can't make me say. I believe yeah. You shouldn't running backs. Let's talk about the running back. Some cut candidates out there One of them you're familiar with you know gio bernard's cut candidate this year. Also this guy. He's got one year remaining on his contract but it dead cap of less than a million dollars so he could be a cut candidate. I don't think they need to cut him. I don't i don't think they're in a position where and not say they. They wouldn't and i think it's going to be a relevant. Yeah kerryon restricted free agents phillip lindsay gus edwards daryl williams this year now on gus edwards. Baltimore's come out and said he is going to be part of this team and he's restricted. So yeah they're goin