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02:36 min | Last month

"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Have been struggling through this. I'm just happy to see that. We're starting to to see the end of white at the end of the tunnel. And we're getting back open there. We go Five o'clock today and Governor Hogan and We might have a positive positive. Allan thank you so much. Thanks for having me Alan Foreman. You should be following. T H A racing of course and That was I hope enlightening as always Alan Alan's amazing and I'm glad I asked about the situation in in Maryland. Because it's been it's been very frustrating for MJC. Do they thought they were ready to go? Two weeks ago and kept getting kind of delayed and delayed and held off with a with a chair. So some good news at five o'clock to that and I also can update you on yesterday's visit with Bill Gallo and they did not hear from Governor North Office yesterday. They continue to await word about getting the to chase Sessions executed top of the hour. Where I tell you what we we did. Make up three minutes. We we've picked. We fell behind ten minutes and right from the right from the break. We're late getting Jay Onboard. But we made up three minutes. Somehow Jim rob is GONNA join us. Rupp racing and we'll talk about Owen down. We'll talk about Jim's interest in the game and becoming an owner The way he approaches it bloodstock approach should be should be terrific. Jim rupp Next Seth Mero. And we'll hopefully handicap a little bit of the honor. Pick five. They close today of course. After an amazing year an amazing season you may have seen. They reached a gigantic threshold. Yesterday will give you some ideas and then after the show. I haven't had a chance to this morning right up the pick five but I've got four of the five races figured out I got A. I think it's the third fifth sixth seventh race. I that kind of struggled with so we'll build a ticket and we'll put it up at the website later but right now step away Jim. Rupp joins US next.

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"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

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01:44 min | Last month

"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"It's not competent. It doesn't mean that it's not capable. It's that there is an error in the laboratory that needs to be fixed whether it relates to the specific testing being done or relating to something else really depends on what the assessors had found Allen Foreman with us and Allen Another question that I'm floating is out there and I don't know if you've got the answer to this Directly or not but Most of the of the racetrack practitioners Typically are really using lighter. Cain kind kinda switch toward Carbon Kane is the product the equivalent that is most more widely used but carbon. Cain doesn't show up on the On the therapeutic substance schedule are are they do they test the same or are they? Are they considered essentially in the same family? How how what? What should people know about About right by decay. So they're in the same family. Your local anesthetics. Okay when we develop the Control THERAPEUTIC SUBSTANCE LIST UNDER THE NATIONAL UNIFORM MEDICATION PROGRAM. We have the entire scientific community. Developing this list of accepted therapeutic medications there are substances that fall into each category for each type of illness were injury. For which a therapeutic medication would be required in the area of therapy of Local anesthetics why.

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"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

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03:26 min | Last month

"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"High level voice as well you know. These are the type of horses that the Friends of owner breeders. You know we always we always when we're talking about people and and and they and they wanNA breathe for the race track these the horse and you know you you go to. Unfortunately you know such a commercial Enterprising days that They get ignored a bit but If we do get back to a situation then you never know this corona virus and how it's GonNa shake up the business and what's going to happen but if we do get to position racing where more people have to whether they're forced to because soon sales earning dirt or for whatever reason need a midnight rude is attack horse that you want to be using happy because he gives you sources and ultimately at the end of the day you know it's what can that works to crack so that sounds like one of those decisions that If you have if you have a mayor who you so far. You're you're finding in mid if it's a yearling amid sale type of yearling And you don't necessarily end up not wanting to take short money And so at the same time. There's some commercial appeal but You could also bring them home and racism and go that way so said as always appreciate the thoughtful The have a good week and we'll be. We'll be talking on Belmont opening day when we talk next week. All right you got it Steve. Thanks again said Fernando. Everybody follows SID. Follow Serve Sire. Watch download the Knicks APP on your phone and you can work with this. He said mentioned Roger Lion and the team and and set himself and the team at work thoroughbred consultants five one. Oh four nine hundred eleven eleven five one zero four nine eleven eleven said Fernando. We're going to say right ear because there's just too much to do and Alan Foreman is already standing by so we'll reach out I'd say Good Morning Tallon morning. Good Morning Steve Allen. A you know in a situation here that puts the puts the industry on the defensive and and makes everybody frustrated. The an exasperated. I don't know how else to identify the situation. there's a lot of uncertainty but there's some elements of it. That I thought was important for you to visit and And provide some perspective whether it's with the lab a accreditation issue and and so forth but Where do you WANNA start in regards to the story from yesterday? Well I mean you told me.

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"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

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01:44 min | 4 months ago

"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Hate to see this. It happens on occasion And something good always comes out of it and I think that people were encouraged that the industry was able to get into this. They say well. It took too long niece investigations. Take Time But it shows that the system does work and were the ninety nine point nine nine nine percent of the people in this industry who are honest dedicated or they're every day A salute to them Because they don't deserve this. You know we all cringe over this. We're all saddened by the end of the day you know can makes you feel good that there are people out there working to root this kind of conduct they out and that you know we're GonNa make our industry data. It's it's a tough situation particularly when on tap in the last year We got a lot of hard work ahead of us in the process Allen form and everybody and T. H. et racing and Allen. I appreciate it. We'll talk soon hyped. How informing ten minutes and our three. Let's take a break Eddie. Surly GONNA join US. When we come back. Stay with us. It's apple races with Steve on Sirius. Xm radio developed by horsemen. Worst BILLS DOT COM is a cost effective time sitting environment friendly paperless revolution of how equine industries bill receive payments vendors were able to generate electronic invoices for each horse whose.

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"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

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01:47 min | 4 months ago

"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Up my horses. That's what I enjoy. I enjoy that more than going to the races nervous because the races I worry I wanna be around the hoses. That's why we get into it. So maybe that's what's gotten lost on some people I don't know and you don't have to. I mean look. I realize some people like to gamble. Some people get into the sport for different reasons. I get that believe me. Not Everybody has to feel the way I do but we need to play the game straight down and everybody needs to that bit. Racetracks need to step up and stop complaining about it and stop acting like they're doing something about it put into practice At every at every level you're right. You're right Graham. I can't thank you enough. Thanks for having me Steve Grand Motion and else can you say Just the raw emotion and the raw passion and frustration right. We'll take a break ninety minutes in lots of lots more Alan Foreman Join US next. Talk about the mechanisms in place and and what you know what this offers as a half forward etc certainly To.

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"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

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02:31 min | 5 months ago

"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"It could be that we got through what could have been a really ugly day yesterday. in kind of realising we're in in the same place whether that's going to but it at least There there hasn't been much if any reporting mainstream media so we may. We may have dodged a bullet there. Alan is always. I appreciate The reaction and wanted From from your the perspective I wanted people to hear the reaction and a were indebted night. I can't thank you enough. That's why I'm not at all Alan Format. Everybody always always saying than rational upbeat no matter no matter Matt Allen Allen. I don't want to say he's like the dog. And the the where the kitchens on fire and you know and the dog is sitting at the table that always makes me laugh over whatever it gets. It's whatever it gets used but there's there's one there's one giant poison happily it all of these discussions that it's it's the lasix They just they just let that go. They would make it a so many of the other elements just instantly mesh take a break here. Sire Watch pedigree focus brought to you by Hillsdale said Fernando an hour after his usual ten o'clock slot but but standing by and we'll get to said we've got a visit from Pete as well. We'll get a probably a quick hit with Pete and Seth Mero in the last half our As well because you know Pete and I'll be with you all next week from Vegas for coverage of at HCC. I'll start From Vegas A week from today Wednesday. Yeah I'll be at Santa Anita tomorrow Friday Monday and Tuesday and then Vegas back after this.

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"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

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03:04 min | 5 months ago

"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Law that prohibited sports betting. Our country and Dennis wasn't one who brought the challenge of dog did for years and what successful. Dennis knows a little bit something about the federal government commandeering state operated and licensed businesses in like in so. I thought he was a perfect choice for that well and as it happened then is Dennis. Actually I mean. This is a subplot Allen but Dennis says that this is a this is also going to be a comma deering issue if it if it ever gets to that point that he believes it's unconstitutional. Well I said that in my testimony two years ago and the Supreme Court had just decided I just weeks before The last hearing I pointed out the Congress that they are to the committee that they need to seriously look at the Murphy position issued by the Supreme Screen Court which dealt with calm during because I believed at the time and I continue to believe that this legislation is unconstitutional. But whether Dennis is right or I'm right or a wrong That's why we have courts and so this issue we'll get mired in litigation for quite some con we understand the intention of the legislation My view is that it's just if the federal government government were to somehow to become involved in our business. We have four bigger problems than just the issue of medication and those who believe that. The Horse Racing Integrity Integrity Act. Enactment would somehow solve our problems and make everything go away and everything would be fine and horses would not be breaking down on. Our racetracks are just simply leave. Miss being misled and those who are who are proponents for misleading the public into thinking that it's just not true and and that's what Yesterday I had mad hegarty before the Session started and then I I saw some of Matt's missives In response to certain quotes and in terms of being misled and statements that are just flat out falsehoods and and tired hackneyed tropes about lasix masking other drugs and about how the there was a couple that The MARDI that Mardi Irby said something that was it just made my head explode. I oh about how it's an epidemic of of breakdowns. When in fact the numbers keep look keep going lower? I mean how. How is stuff like this read into into the congressional record gross inaccuracies and misleading statements? All look we're not the only industry we're not the only Before Congress where Hyperbole seems to be and Soundbites seemed to be the way the the way to go. That seems to the way we operate in society right now whether it's social media whether it's before Congress.

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"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

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14:04 min | 7 months ago

"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Fast like we did with steroids. Everybody Eddie moves in that. Same Inexorable Direction. What happens when there's no change and there's Ah you know you're you're you're putting off the horse players there there continues to be you know we? We heard that steroids was the boogeyman. And there'd be so much more players come back to the game if we eliminated steroids. That didn't happen. What happens when nothing extensively changes with the after the elimination of lasix? I'm not sure what you mean by what happens. Nothing change what what happens when we still even even as even even as we we work forward and continue to try to be safer and CETERA. We're still going to have horses breakdown. AH THAT'S NOT GONNA change. lasix with limitation is certainly not going to bring back the batters in fact. If you read Jerry Brown spy's letter t the TD CDN. It's actually the other way horse. Players will be less sure about the you know the the question of how You know horses coming off. Lake they're going to react. It only adds to uncertainty now question my question in in this situation you remember five six years ago. The Breeders Cup decided to run lasix free two year old races and that was fine. I got that that's right. We talked about that so okay go ahead and go for it. My assumption was they were going to test them. They did it to test. These horses with the reaction was well. They didn't do any testing. And and so I don't know what what they decided on so in this situation are there are there protocols. Put in place where they're going to be some kind of testing to see what the results are. As far as you know the bleeding situation goes it's gonNA be a blanket. No lasix were. We don't want to know what happens. Or what the effect is going to be on the horse so there were there. Were two recent studies that were done to to determine whether or not you could back out the administration of lasix twenty four hours in what effect it would have the initial results from. Both of those studies were that it it it it would not result in a positive change in that you could not back outlay six to twenty four hours. It was most effective at least but somewhere between four and nine hours hours. Whatever the numbers but clearly on race day it was most effective Larry Bromwich widely respected Veterinarian in this country dug into the data and and he thought he saw something that if there were horses in that study who were treated at twenty four our that. If you could administer lasix twenty four hours withdraw water manage their water and food it might reduce the incidence of bleeding and he thought that was a promising development and there are people now seriously looking at that but that that was a study of six worsest eight horses. You can't conclusions from that that the Jockey Club did something. It's yeah well. I mean everybody jockey. Club's looking at it. We had Heather Connecticut University California looking at it. We had another research paper that was done at the Washington Washington state. Where we're what we have not come up with? I don't think is the money and the research to try to find an alternative to light. Six are the a EP. The T. H. A. R. Historical position has been that the current practice is in the best interests of the safety and welfare of the Horse. There should be any change until there's a better alternative now. I think the AP's going to change that position because they're under tremendous political pressure. And I think they're taking another look at it but so there will be studies done to look at the effect twenty four hours in it. There's some way we can do that. And they're going to have to look at other alternatives because look somebody's going to be right and somebody's going to be wrong in this debate when they start implementing these changes. I don't know whether you're going to see horses are gonNA come off the track that owners are going to just abandon them because they're believers they can't treat them mm-hmm which is gonna tax our after care facilities baby. The worst men will adjust. And we've been crying. You know fire for too long Who knows yeah? But that's we're about to find out. Will we go back to the days when they were worse than we're using all kinds of different concoctions therapies and things. I think we we may go back to that that I know what these horsemen are. Probably going to be inclined to do to manage this problem but but somebody's going to be right and somebody's going to be wrong and we're gonNA find out what happened to this. Study that stronach group commission that Apparently didn't have the results that they were looking for a and has just disappeared. I think it just disappeared. I'm not familiar with it Look there've been been efforts at various times but this has become a political issue it was introduced back in two thousand eleven as the nod as a scientific advancement but as it's a political issue because of the inability of the breeding community to sell in the international markets in the pressure coming from international channel markets on North American racing. You hear this drumbeat about drugs. Drugs drugs in North American racing. You know I'm looking the statistics for the positive tests in the mid Atlantic as I do every year and the numbers keep coming down. The multiple penalty system has eliminated multiple offenders. Were not seeing serious doping issues any longer. Sh T give me one from this year. You can't think of one since the Damore finish issue. I'm not sure there's been one you mentioned that and a bit. Br brought up rick. Dr Arthur steamier more times than the last week than I have in California. We worked together a lot but I mean he's come to me with the stats he goes. I don't even know why we test anymore. We have. We've got three people people in the last ten thousand tests and and it's working. I mean we were doing the right thing. But here's the problem. Here's the and this is a problem that's age-old although we've discussed this a million times you got people who you see Steve Carpenter fighting these two as positives. The people that people writing. Oh ask Ju Ju. What are you talking about ace is they? Don't know that it's a it's a re- there's residual will from putting a horse on a van or having the dentist pull a tooth or have I mean it could be anything colic. They're giving giving giving a horse on aspirin and and you've got the public saw the public perception. That the whole the whole gypsum weed situation relation in a hoop people now again sensationalized misinformation meant to meant to smear the industry a lot of cases coming from within and and the public. The public has no idea no matter how many times we tried to explain it and flesh it out and I don't note Alan if freezing samples is what's happened to that concept about being able to go back and back test I did see one thing encouraging courage ing the other day about funding. And I'm GonNa Forget what state what state was it that talked about spending more for research and and I might be California. Might have been part of this California thing. I mean it could be look. We're we're looking at that all the time. We free samples you you can go back and look at samples. We're not finding anything. No I think with the advancements in understanding of because there's people who just are so convinced that there's guys oh they they've got got undetectable it's all undetected. Well that's all they stand out of competition testing and look when it comes to drug testing. And you're always always being asked to prove a negative took to prove and it's impossible to do we have enhanced our out of competition testing. They do it in New York. They do it in California -fornia they're not finding anything but nonetheless You have to do it because it's a deterrent. I think the thing that we're looking at now as you know the the regime in horse racing you always tested the winner. You always tested the horse finished second. And if the steward's wanted to they could pick somebody randomly. You know you had up badly beaten favourite so you'll at our special the worst and they never produced anything. The conversation now is maybe we need to get away from that. Maybe we need to devote less money to the way we're doing current Pusch Ridge testing and put more money out of competition testing the only one of the reasons I like. That idea is because of this notion that there's all this stuff going on in training training and there's all this stuff on the backstretch the only way you're going to prove that it's not the case institute more out of competition testing but you only have so many resources. So what do you do. You protect the better or do you protect the rest of the industry. You put it into out-of-competition testing or you do you put it into post race testing. And that's that's the that's jet figure out a couple of different areas what about The opportunity to stall monitoring in terms of video we got we got cheap video camera systems that you know that can be put virtually in every stall and of course the training centers are a whole different story and potentially different different Issue what about the commissary concept you know one of the few things that when I hear people talk about Hong Kong one of the few things that I that it does seem to be some merit and frank strontium south wanted to do this which is to have a commissary have a pharmacy on track Iraq and the only products allowed on the racetrack have to be procured through that commissary system. That that I would think would go a long way. Would it not with that. Why can't that be done in theory? It's great in practice. It's very difficult. Why not well first of all you gotta get all the tracks to buy into want to do it? Because they're the ones going to be doing it now. Racing Commissions but the RAISCH. Rex is going to go into the pharmacy business I'm not suggesting that you couldn't do it. I I just don't know how practical it is. What the cost would be from their standpoint? Since the tracks are always looking at liability the liability issues are nonetheless. Look Frank proposed it right. He had the wherewithal to do it. How many years ago was that proposed? And how far along is the proposal at just one track operator with money. Who could have done it and hasn't done it so now you expect to do it? You expect Churchill do it. You expect Delaware Park to expect parks to do it. You expect MOMS to do it. It's it's it's a tall order. Once again we talk about the follow through. We talk about all these great idea to do it in Hong Kong but Hong Kong. What do they have nine hundred horses? I mean they got a smaller horse population and they control everything. That's you mention. You gotTA bleed or send them out bring another one in. You mentioned she cameras. Well we put cameras in at Santa Anita four years ago and not one person said as long as you know. It's the old if he's getting looked at. That's fine as long as we're all being looked at the same time it's been great and I mean everyone's no I mean they're not just in the march or not got into every stall but they're angled so you can see who goes in and out of every stall in every barn and they're all over the parking lot and you could see people come and go and and you know what everybody knows. They're on camera back there and it's really helped I think it's absolutely essential. Astronomy Group has done it at Laurel But with the new rebuild in Maryland coming It'll be state of the art. So it's going to be easy to monitor the backstretch at Laurel when that new backstretch is done in two years and I think that should it'd be another thing that's mandatory. It will set the standard. Yeah born and it's and it's not you know the the mall cop sitting there looking at forty radiate caverns going everything's recorded. It's on you know what guys looking at this wall stickers uh-huh recorded and discount back if there's a poppy seed Bagel able to go back to our biggest prior league in the Atlantic. Is that not everybody stable at the racetrack. Well that I was just I was GONNA follow up with training center. I mean whether it's whether it's a hyperbaric and some of the wave of you name it. That's that's the biggest challenge is the racing commission stone. You already to go off property I mean we do it with out of competition testing. It's it's a condition of licensing New Jersey licenses. Essences training facilities but fair hill is not under anybody's jurisdiction and they feed horses to Maryland Delaware New Jersey Pennsylvania and that private so they're private and their other private facilities arrays. Yeah and so. That's a real challenge to in the horsemen at stables at the racetrack. Say Well what about got those guys. What are you doing the people I can buy by all these rules but what about the people shipping in on this legitimate and that's the problem? There's there's there's there's little holes in everything show whatever trying to plug exactly exactly the good news. Steve is the match series is coming back just after the regional agreement. We're going to announce the schedule pretty pretty soon. We want we want the growth this year. Want South notchers sixty second pick six pack. That was the greatest you know I. I'm sorry changing subject. That's right just it's a good move we're bringing charlestown back and we're bringing colonial backs of the series is going to expand and we're going to do.

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"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

08:07 min | 7 months ago

"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Hasn't participated in these efforts. So it's A. It's a good thing because I think eventually everything will coalesce into one program that we all can get behind. And then it's it's easier to message and in this instance copying is a good thing if somebody has to start somewhere and there's and there's nothing wrong with jumping on the bandwagon so to speak and say hey you know what. This is a great place to start. I'm sure what is in in that What you've put together the mid Atlantic? Now we'll be different in another year or a two or three but we have to start somewhere and if everybody can just jump in on the bottom level and say this is a great place start. We'll try a few things. Some will work some won't but we're all doing the same thing and that's that's the division in this game as we all do something different. You hinted at a couple of things that I think. We've gotTa have the opportunity with you to flesh out explain for those that on on message boards awards and under articles on twitter. Think that this federal bill is something that it absolutely is not explain. Lean what it is what it addresses why it could or couldn't work and WHO's going to pay for it because that has been in hidden and obscured in this incantation well the The Horse Racing Integrity Act is solely medication related. So if you WANNA talk about the issues that we face from a safety welfare and we're are on the welfare and interests of the horse medications just one piece of of a much larger puzzle which is why it doesn't solve the breakdown problem with the worst Racing Integrity Act does is it. Strips the state racing commissions to state regulatory bodies their ability to regulate in the arena of medication and it creates an authority to be comprised primarily of the United States anti-doping agency representatives. CBS and then a group of hand picked individuals from the horse racing industry. Who will make the rules for medication? Using and using using some of the other paradigm that we have in the industry making the rules and enforcing the rules through enforcement mechanism. So essentially it's transferring ferring control of the regulatory aspects of a part of our industry from the states where a state sanctioned state regulated sport and Industry to a a federally appointed and Federally Authorized Authority or Commission that will regulate so my view. Whether you like the bill or not it will create some regulatory havoc. Because you're GONNA have to stay commissions regulating everything else and in the area of medication you're going to have this federally appointed Group A how. How in this version of it? Because there's been the same version it hasn't changed with one. With one notable exceptions notable exceptions. Well well the most notable exception is in the previous iterations of the bill worse owners the industry paying for and they would be taxed by the racing commissions would be taxed by this authority who were then collected from the industry. Locally to pay for it's an unfunded mandate there isn't even imminent budget. We don't even know how much they could decide how much money they want to collect to run this authority. And then they go back and tax the individuals in the industry to pay for it. The change changed this year. Is it also taxes the betters. So it'd be the better as in the owners who would be paying for the cost of doing this and that's look I've got problems from an enforcement standpoint wait because it takes the horsemen out of state regulated You know a jurisdiction and enforcement program gives it to the federal government government through arbitration and appeals through federal courts. You know if they think that the industry is too slow to discipline offending trainers and that group gets smaller and smaller smaller every year. Put it over in the federal system and watch how long it takes to get something done like anything else. I mean it's not it's A. There are a lot of people who like the bill. A lot of people. Don't like the bill and I just don't think it is what irks me is. The people suggested that that bill is going to solve a much bigger problem. We have in this industry and that bill doesn't touch the other topic that that is seemingly seemingly once again Reaching a flashpoint. Is this lasix discussion and KHRC yesterday managed to bring The the subcommittee in line. They obviously browbeat them into complying with whatever initiative seemed to be coming from as as myopic a group of breeders as I've ever seen it is stunning to me that there's a handful of breeders being allowed to push their origen data and when it comes to lasix and thinking that's I don't know how they think all the stallions at all the farms in Kentucky are going we do continue to stand when the industry will simply be winnow down further and further. I it makes no sense to me but talk about what went on yesterday and apparently Some some momentum of among the anti lasix crowd well Steve. There's there's no question that what's happening with the lace success you as a political. It's not a scientific issue. It's a it's a political issue in the environment. We're in right now. Political issues and political solutions tend to have a much stronger hand so We all know that that lasix the third rail of American racing. It's it's our abortion. It's our gun control it it. It's a a parallel. It's actually paralyzed our sport. In trying to move forward with reform I happen to be on the side of the argument that is in favor of the current regulatory practice. I have friends and colleagues Alex who are on the other side of the issue and it's been very difficult to try to find a way through this The coalition of tracks including Churchill keeneland naira the group as part of reforms that they announced a number of months ago. Move for a partial elimination of six to eliminate in to eliminate it in two year olds beginning this year and then in stakes races beginning in twenty twenty one The Kentucky the way the Kentucky Framework Works they have inequity drug council that makes medication recommendations to the racing commission that usually follows them and then it goes to a legislative committee and has to be approved by their legislature. The EQUA Drug Council initially voted to support the current regime and not to go with the partial elimination They call themselves back together. Two weeks later three weeks later revoted determined to go with the partial. Elimination recommended. It to the Racing Commission which rubber-stamped it yesterday it go I assume to a legislative committee but my instincts tell me and I'm not involved in Kentucky racing at all my instincts tell me that's a done deal in Kentucky and I expect that New York I think that New York needs the gaming commission to change its current regulations to prohibit the use of six and two year olds but they can do it in in a race by race basis. So they'll do it in the stakes races. And I think New York will will come on board. So you'll have California Kentucky New York and I think their hope is that that will force forced the rest of the industry to go along. Mid Atlantic has taken a position that it supports the current practice and any change that will occur in the mid Atlantic will be a regional channel change and not a state by state change. New York will break off from that but the rest of the mid Atlantic will have to decide what direction it wants to go out of curiosity so let. Let's say everybody. Everybody comes on board and and slow but sure or.

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"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

14:11 min | 7 months ago

"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Yeah Good Morning. Good Morning Steve. Good morning everybody. Warning Warning Allen. He was worried he said he said Allan Allan Got Golfie. They'll be playing golf. Sun is now. It's cool and crisp and I have to work this morning. I have to give a presentation in an hour so yesterday was yesterday or Sunday. You got abbreviated. V8 The storm rolled in here. I never seen anything like it. See I've been coming here for thirty five years when I brought my wife. It snowed since she said it snows. The de Yeah but I had never seen thunderstorms in December and we were on the fifteenth box and we heard a lot of rumbling and one of my partners said you know you don't see lightning out here so we better get the hell out and we headed right to. It was pouring and a good round was had and lost. You said you were tracking. You were good boy well. And you mentioned thirty five years and in thirty five years of symposiums and and industry initiatives and discussions. Can you recall a period where there was so much. Focus on a fairly narrow set of topics actually Following the almost eerily similar situation in New York in twenty eleven two thousand twelve with the twenty one fatalities at acqueduct. The answer is yes. At that time it was an existential moment. And I think the symposium after eight bells died on the race track at the Kentucky Derby there was some focus on safety but nothing like today because we're obviously at one of these other existential moments and it's a it's the very Difficult in somewhat dangerous time for the industry so I I appreciate the fact that the powers that be at the University here at the symposium decided to you spend a day on focusing on safety and welfare initiatives you've been focused in the mid Atlantic and with the t h a member bodies uh ongoing basis. You are ahead of the curve on this topic and in part dates back to twenty twelve and the New York task for absolutely. I talked to Dr Durnberger earlier this morning. And I referenced. Twenty twelve with her her and how many of the same topics are being revisited. In some cases or are being introduced more widely not in terms of the best practices as the convenient derm calls them so the circumstances Ecuador were eerily similar to what happened at San on a needle including the same time of year unusual weather phenomenon. And you can go down the list as those of us. Scott Palmer Jerry Jerry Bailey. Mary Scalia and myself who were asked by the governor to investigate and it wasn't the knee jerk reaction there wasn't the pandering the horsemen's To the animal rights groups We didn't make political statements. We just tried to study and learn as much as we could. And we may thirty thirty eight recommendations We may thirty eight recommendations that were implemented immediately in New York and and if new working on it on its own it would have been naked and New York racing would have been in trouble because of the reforms would were they weren't radical but they so changed Racing in New York work and to its credit the mid Atlantic region realized that New York could not be naked because we all work in the marketplace and so the region embrace those reforms arms and that was the beginning of a number of things to national uniform medication program I was actually the mid Atlantic uniform medication and drug testing program. That quick is that now all of the mid. Atlantic jurisdictions are compliant We were in the forefront of eliminating steroids in in racing and that led to you are reform work we were doing on the safety and welfare of the worst. At some point we realized we gotta pull this all together. We have yet to have a cohesive plan. You can't just have a bunch of reforms forms that are out there. And so working both regionally nationally we put together a strategic plan to reduce equine fatalities And and I'm GonNa talk about it this morning. The symposium that's my presentation but the one takeaway is for the group is that since we started implementing these reforms fatalities in the mid Atlantic over the past five. Six seven years have been reduced by thirty five percent there. If there's a way to do it do you think what do you think we could. We talked earlier when we were talking to. Dr Germ Burger about some some things that the mid-atlantic region in has seemed to have been able to do a lot of things together. I mentioned the match. If you can get people to get together for races you can get together to do other things. Do you think the fact that California California is so far removed from their own region. Yes where you're talking here is your American guy. But now you're talking about the problem in New York Doc. Like New York had someone to lean on close. Get some racing jurisdictions close to you had you had you got to work with each other whereas California or so so far out there that they didn't have anybody locally or even regionally to talk to to get together with their kind of left on their own and not using that as an excuse for the way the situation was handled. But I I'm not a lot of people maybe came to their aid because of geographically. Where were you guys? Were able to work together the region to handle aqueduct situation. I don't think that look I. I don't want to criticize California there. They were in very difficult circumstances. That were doing the best they could and they were reacting as is quickly as they could because there were so many forces bearing down on them but they did not at least to my knowledge reach out beyond their own state to solve this problem. Album at California is somewhat on an island. I mean you're talking Santa Anita down more low Salvato since. Then you've got Golden Gate North but you know you've got a small finite horse population That's not the mid Atlantic the Mid Atlantic is seven states. You can have thirteen race tracks operating at at the same time you have horsemen moving from state to state so if you WanNa talk about uniformity if you WanNa talk about cooperation if you WanNa talk about best practices you've got to do in the mid Atlantic Very very very prominent veterinarian world. Renowned said to me you know Allen if if if you can't coordinate and get it right in the mid Atlantic you're going to have a S. H. Plank t show. It's a mess. And so we learned years ago. We have to cooperate. We have to do this cooperatively and we when we make changes we have to do it collectively as a region and I think that were evidence based I think we have evidence to show what we're doing and we're pulling from the science now we've learned so much more since two thousand twelve today than we knew back in two thousand twelve when we made our recommendations and it it's an evolving situation Asian the parallels going back to the formation of the New York Task Force. There you talk about the parallels I think about the government pressures and Albany Albany absolutely put pressure on and and yet it and I don't know if that's a question of California's -fornia uniqueness in terms of the the social makeup in in general in California and how Sacramento Ah relates to the populace and and you know what what is perceived as public opinion but in New York there was l'armee but there wasn't the rancor and the the the most violent reaction to things in that that people didn't understand that people didn't want to hear an explanation for and there's so many pieces of evidence you know now a several months removed even with the Mongolian groom situation it tells a completely different story than what people's perception is and that includes the California's overall fatality rate is down for the year. The me I'll give you a statistic that I'm going to get ripped I know for putting up this statistic stick but but Tim Parkin. Who is somebody? We work with with the Task Force. Internet nationally recognized expert in the study of risk management and horses and breakdowns issued a paper several years ago and it covered a period from two thousand nine to two thousand thirteen which includes the New York. Twenty one fatalities aqueduct. And they in his study. That reported that there were one almost one point nine million starts in that period in North American and Canadian racing and the safety rate the horses that non fatality. The safety rate was ninety. Eight point eight percent. We are all this work that we're doing is to try to fix that. One point two percent that are fatalities any other business without a safety record like that. We've got ninety eight point eight percent safety record in racing. That doesn't work that one point. Two percent numbers killer for us. And that's what we're all working on to get down and I just. I Live The New York situation in two thousand and two thousand twelve. It was intense governor who wanted to shutdown racing. It was on all the newscasts in New York. It just feels more intense hence now and with social media which wasn't what it is. It's just more intense now and you have a federal bill by the way everybody's latched onto that as the answer to racing's ills is just past the federal bill. And everything's going to be fine and the fact that matter is that federal bill wouldn't do anything to reduce the fatality situation that we have one thing and I. It probably won't talk to chuck and again until Thursday to start this. This industry answers Segment with Chuck Simon as representing the Horsemen in Florida and Chuck brought out a something. That I'm shocked has not made the rounds. More more pronounced basis without a supposed- five panel to examine horses and five vet panel final to look at entries and check Epidemiology Gulfstream West ran meet with much cheaper cheaper horses than we're running on the West Coast Zero fatalities without pronounced protocols or anything else on a racetrack on turf course that looks like a plowed field and on main track. That isn't being maintained the way it was as you know years ago go when it was one of the best safest and best services for horses in the game. They didn't have a single incident. What does that tell you about the the randomness of these factors? And and how do you present this. I'm not one for presenting safety records as You del Mar.. Learn this lesson. The hard way off. We had had a fabulous summer. No Fan and then three in seventy two hours. You can't merchandise this. You know you can't and it's it's complicated. One of the things we've learned is that weather and climate clearly is affecting business in a way that historically we have not seen I mean whether it was twenty eleven twenty twelve whether it's in the mid Atlantic this summer because we had some spikes that a spike Belmont they had a little spike at that parks We had a drought in the mid Atlantic. This summer We're learning that when horses run for a long period of time on one surface and then change to another going from Almonte to Saratoga Belmont or going from Laurel to Pimlico or whatever that you see early in the east you can see a spike in fatalities and it's got something to do with that transition but you know to me you have to be transparent about it and you have to be you have to be objective about it. We can do all these reforms and we all come in today. And I'll show the progress that we've made in the mid Atlantic but they're no guarantees that there isn't going to be another cluster. They happen they're rare but they could happen happen. What we need to do is Implement the best risk management strategies that we can find because they work and and hope that we can get that one point two percent number that I talk about tallies get that lower our goal zero. I doubt we'll ever get to zero L.. But I would. I would be willing to bet that if tim parking came in and studied the North American population from two thousand two thousand and thirteen his previous. You study too now. That number's lower. I know we've done better in New York. Had the lowest fatality rate in decades last year in Maryland were down about twenty five a little bit more than in twenty five percent with three weeks to go. You keep your fingers crossed. There may be other states that had zero fatalities in two thousand eighteen. That may have had two or three and twenty nine hundred so they're number will go up but overall we've been able to bring it down. It's just that we're in a situation. Now where every fatality is a catastrophe Venus being reported such ask you the same question. We asked Dr Durnberger or you know the floated the a similar conceptual discussion which is presenting a message. Uniform message from all the industry organs and I referenced efforts efforts to you at T. H. A. and Era Camelback Inn. HP A gag Liana and Jockey Club. I didn't even inside the should include the Alex Wall L. Drip. NTR A..

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"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

08:39 min | 8 months ago

"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Experience is being getting experienced people on racing conditions. It's the best way to regulate our business. But I think it's that way in any industry for that had industry to be successful and to thrive and finally with respect to I guess we can talk about the mid Atlantic strategic plan but we are arbitrary actively working in the mid Atlantic region on a daily basis to to address the risks that are horses on the racetrack. And we've hired Andy. L. Fury is just dynamic and doing fabulous job and you are working this collectively reaching on a day-to-day basis and We have evidence to show show at. This plan has worked. There are still challenges. It doesn't mean that we're going to completely eliminate the Saudis have spikes and have incidents sweep carefully. Take a look at them to see what we district what we can do better and we move forward for the benefit of everyone and it's a good story that's all I wish that we could Encourage our media partners in the industry depend a little bit more attention to some good stuff. That's going on. Well you would think it would be incumbent to due to understand the history and and be able to reference the history you know you you bring up the two thousand in twelve a spate of injuries and fatalities at acqueduct and there was a a comprehensive task force that you were on Ah that produced a what two dozen Plus Action Plan Action List that was immediately really implemented and it has has had ongoing positive impact That's something week that that I kind of for two weeks have tried tried to tie in to these discussions Allen and even the situation in West Virginia in recent weeks can be can be the Brought up as as an example of when there's been a negative publicity crisis or or your black eye or however you want to characterize what transpired With the with the Horse Carcass and and it's disposition I look at what positive has come out of that given that West. Virginia is going to make some sweeping changes to their to their post fatality examinations. I mean the West Virginia. This is a major positive Coming out of that incident and they're making the changes because of their participation in the mid Atlantic strategic plan because all the jurisdictions all the tracks all the horsemen's organizations the veterinary organizations that have signed onto are committed to the plan. All all working together to lift up those who may not be in compliance with requirements and to ensure that everyone who is participating is is compliant with what we're trying to do and is working to minimize the risk to our horses when they're on the track you'll every time of war steps on the track track that is at risk and you could never ever forget that It's no different than when you get into a car and you drive on a highway. You're at risk anytime An NFL football player goes on the field. He's at risk of serious injury. And and whether it's driving a car whether it's playing professional football were a horse going onto a racetrack where you've got risk. We implement measures to reduce that risk and provide for a safer environment. And and so everything that we're doing in the mid Atlantic quaint is designed to reduce the risk to the horse and it's very multifactorial And with respective West Virginia for example one of the basic requirements. And you'RE GONNA you're GonNa see going on now with breeders. Cup is requirement of an necropsy. Win A horse breaks on patents. euthanized or worst is on track were in training on the crops to understand not only why that horse died but what the underlying problems where whether contributing factors and try to understand and put piece together the reason why that wars broke down and to learn from it and then to have a mortality review process with all of the essential players and investigators to find out was known what was not known. It's something was known why something wasn't done to gentrify. Were to prevent it. Exactly what's going on in the review with the Breeders Cup talent and we were acquired that in the mid Atlantic and it's an enormous educational national tool and West Virginia didn't have that process. Didn't have the money. They didn't have the personnel in our view. was that if you want to participate in the mid Atlantic plan you have to get get there. And so we talk and incident actually got worse lying in a landfill and the fact that they didn't have crops he program when of course ghosts in the crops. It's been disposed the after the autopsy. They didn't have it so the worst winter directly to a place disposal they were out of compliance and as their commitment to the plant they own are moving into compliance. That's precisely what this plan is designed to We had that many as we did a gap analysis of all the tracks in the reach all the jurisdictions there got thirty items that gap list of things that tracks And George six should be doing and we see who's doing it who visit where we're we. We're we're strong where we need to get everybody in compliance report card and it's something that we consistently audit and it's something that we're consistently working working with what what percentage of of jurisdictions Alan are are part of this already. And how much more can it can it spread and maybe it's it would be valuable to delineate you know how the jurisdictions are from Horsemen's organization standpoint. I mean we. We've we've reiterate this every time you when I talk or I talk with Eric Hammill back and explain the CPA over umbrella but Explain how and we've done this with our MTC conversations as well but explain how concepts like this can be implemented in every jurisdiction. Well we have a unique situation the mid Atlantic where we quite frankly it would start. Gordon is a very small group. Twenty five years ago were Mushroomed into the much larger group beginning with the situation that the Taliban had acted back I can two thousand eleven two thousand twelve that changed the mindset. I think in the region. So we're you know the mid Atlantic is always step ahead of everyone else and working working with Dr Scott Palmer. We've had Parkin- we had We've had expert working with us and with a commitment from everyone in the region and I'm you know This is T. H. A. H.. Every racing commission every race track from Newark New Jersey Pennsylvania Delaware Maryland West Virginia Virginia. New Jersey We're all at the table and were there is. It's not even the situation of being consensus based it's all right. What do we have to do? What are the measures that we need to implement in order to make our environment safer deeper and convinced the public that we are concerned that our number one priority is health safety and welfare worse? So you know right now. We are developing best practices. This is that everyone will adhere to and everyone in the region is participating in these efforts at the galloping. The Best Practices. What are the most significant issues that I think? We're all facing teaching right now and I think it's a California issues racing services I mean. We have a group together just focused on the racing services working with Nick Peters is in Glencoe Zach and we have all of our track superintendents together and we're talking about how whether it's affecting changes to our service is what happens. Benjamin horses are moving from track to track different services. we're looking. We've got the racing directors together and looking at training issues.

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"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

13:05 min | 8 months ago

"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"Well? It's a hundred and five thousand dollars purse in the old days. That's like a state you know. If you're a Kentucky bred the personal one hundred and five and They're just knocking out. You know make sixty something two thousand dollars by just running at one time and take her farm but then we talk and he said now we we We in consideration of the Breeder Scout. You had two six year old mayors when they're blue prize belvoir way. And but while they barely beat mortician one of their meetings and You know she's healthy. She's it's top of her game obviously and he's just GonNa take. He's the Philly The mayor or tissues. She's now millionaire. And she's going due to watch humphries farm in Mercer County Kentucky for about forty five days and then she's gonNA rejoin rusty down there at Palmettos around mid-january. Okay so With in consideration of what happened in this stuff and the fact that she will get to run on her favorite course there came and and She makes it that far and they liked winning in touchdowns that huge person she won back in September so with all those factors in In play they said the they intend to go ahead and bring her back in April at keeneland and and go from there. Excellent personal favourite and You know that that's that's a smart maneuver i. Why wouldn't you That you like to say why wouldn't you. Why wouldn't and they can play by ear the whole way you know? There's there's nothing forcing their hand. If they WANNA end up wanting to stop of course they probably like the breeder You know this shear. If she doesn't make it all the way through they nobody has a crystal ball but yeah they played as well and Since you mentioned in Kentucky downs as well marked the ground breaking and The progress toward the refashioned Kentucky downs this week yeah I mean they They're spending twenty five million dollars on all that money. They keep getting from the Nashville people. And they're gonNA I was reading that. It's the the largest expansion of Facility Kentucky down since the track I came into existence in nineteen ninety as the old doing grounds and and So a lot of those Steve. It's not really racing related. They're trying to make room for more those historical racing machines jeans or whatever they call them to the slots like Cory Johnson was always against be writing. I don't like a lot like 'cause they they were still in that legal fight and there was no fighting. Yeah they're still fighting the legal battle. Exactly what that's A. That's an end Ryan to make the hall of fame that they made with that. I mean yeah now shirt selling Qinglin and turf way soon and we got this new governor though. I hope it's full bow casinos everywhere. Because we're we're so far behind everybody You know all this money goes over in Indiana with the sports betting everything. That's that's another issue as well Yeah and the former governor was trying to put Kentucky even further behind everybody on every level couple of notes about the Card Tomorrow Mart. Interesting that We see mu-chou coming back in here and this of course was a clayborn bill. Schneider home bred the blame. Lame coal that kind of kind of went sideways after after flashing so much ability and having been a runner up to my control in the hopeful hopeful as a two year old and it was one of that group of of Bill Maher sophomores that that seemed so formidable with Tacitus And the like and here. He is trying to find his way a second level allowance the fifth race. There's some terrific Pedigree plays or pedigree notations including monoploy girl's brother By Palace Malice Mr Monoploy. That's in the eighth race. There's actually some other Notable pedigrees in that race as well a lot of good racing and then there's the great three rivers city as the feature. Yeah I really liked admission office in in there. I think you'll be the favorite though I think it'd be two one at best He was out of the money in the shed while mile last out as I wrote in the advanced. What's but it? It was Kinda sneaky. Good Race for me. Only got beat three length. He was eleventh by three lengths. Being believed that which just tells you how yeah well bunch that race was and how traffic filled. It was Brian Lynch Kinda took me by surprise yesterday when when speaking with confidence that this race could or will Be a springboard for him to the Pegasus World Cup turf. You know seven million dollar race and I. It just made me think that last year bricks and mortar Came into that race with with kind of sublime form like this war says I think next year could be a huge year for this horse Admission Office Jose Ortiz makes it a point to come in to ride him That'll add him being favourite and you know he got a trio for maker in here in the field and you also have missed Mr Misunderstood. He's looking for his first year. So I think this race is definitely Definitely admission offices to lose. I think he definitely the worst and be when he got for tomorrow. Anything Jump off the page is now you know the way the calendar falls here It's been kind of a quirky thing with This is the first time that Churchill's going to run. Through December December in into December December. First Sunday again. A quirk of the ALA calendar Falls So Oh there's no stake here next week. It's kind of a vacuum that We're just feeling with maintenance allowance and other races but I mean there's always something to it's about big I I. I was mad at myself yesterday for night using Vicky Oliver in the off the turf race I just it seems like whenever I don't use Humphry horse they here. They come to to beat me but I would have been alive in the in the picnics But then the police would Kendall horse with first-time Tom leykis one. The last was a moot point for him. But yeah there's always stuff going on here to bet on and be interested in well and then on Sunday Monday to I'll give everybody a quick glance ahead maiden special For the boys as the fourth race this looks like it's got potential to be notable notable and a couple of other a couple of other spots. just terrific cards that keep coming and we're looking forward to the the two year olds down the that at the end of the rainbow by the way that race you referred to the fourth race on Sunday. That's the first maiden often race that we've ever had in the Zeta Kentucky and and to my knowledge you have to have been bought for aren't aid for forty five thousand or left to be audible for that and I didn't they start at Thera Toga. Or maybe Beaumont within the last year or so but his air toby this summer. Yeah Yeah So. It's a way of keeping them away from the blue bloods and and You know it. It just gives them a chance that the the person less if you notice and it's only fifty six thousand in that race versus the ninety five they've been running for open but Yeah it's it's a good concept that They're taking a page out of somebody else's book but yet it looks like it has a good field and they're just good second level allowance. Now it's too as the feature and most of these most of these have got stay courses and other great three types that in our are involved. I really really strong and looking forward Toward the Thanksgiving holiday as well Marty as always I appreciate it. We'll talk. Walk the coming weeks every birthday coming up to you there buddy. That's right that's right. I guess we'll have to. Well let me think it's Wednesday so I won't talk to you before then. Happy Birthday to you. You got the Martin McGee everybody and Mar.. My birthday's Wednesday. A Marty's is Thursday and then jape ribbon on the on the back end all all three of us within seventeen days alternating sexy Eh. Jesus to some. I don't even start me on this We're GONNA stay here because we got too much to do and Alan formative I know has got a flight that that he's headed for and I've got quite a few things that bring to Allen. Good Morning Steve. Alan so many things over the last two weeks have come to the fore and you're always invaluable for these kinds of discussions ends and the CHR activity That looks like the. The State is the governor's office is conducting in a coup Some of the silly things that Senator Feinstein at the say after Breeders Cup in including do that. Oh the the industry does. Nothing has no plan to address these issues. I bristled at that and reference reference the mid Atlantic Plan to reduce equine fatalities There's so many things to bring out with you today. Start there Because I I just amazed that people can just spout off and nobody responds with the the realities. Well let's even you know what's what's frustrating to me is in some respects our own industry media our own people who cover our sports ignores some of the really terrific work. That's being done because it's a positive story and it doesn't feed certain narratives in one of those frustrations I think for us uh-huh in the mid Atlantic is the work that we're doing that we have been doing and the results that our work have produced Contrary for example and what's happened in California and no criticism of California they. They're doing everything that they possibly can to come to grips with this. This problem of the breakdowns And nobody's fault. Nobody can fault them for their efforts And with respect to what happened to would happen Breeders Cup Day and shortly they'll be an investigative report that below. Look forward to next month. That will try to answer a lot lot of the questions that are out there to get bottom of of why in particular California this phenomenon is happening. I can tell you Limited Atlantic has a different story to tell and that's because of this region going back seven years eight years following a similar incident in New New York joining together to essentially develop a program or risk management to try to reduce the Talibans and as a region collectively where horses in the mid Atlantic are moving from state to state. How in the the region with the largest concentration of racing in the United States on the daily basis this can can collectively work to reduce the Talibans? So let me break down. You know Senator Feinstein can say what she wants to say but like. She's not aware of the efforts that are being done in raising to reduce the Talon. He shouldn't successes. We're having the challenge that we have. And that's unfortunate ended up doesn't do us any good putting people on racing conditions. Who moved? No nothing about our sport doesn't bring anything anything necessarily positive to what we're trying to accomplish. It's important to have people who understand our business who understand the challenges of our business and understand take care of horses who understand about the economics of the sport that help us to address many of these issues and I don't care whether it's on a state level or at congressional level it's absolutely essential to have people who understand the industry to be regulating industry. Both at the staff level and at the commission level Certainly don't can be conflicts of interest they dealt with And they're easy to deal with but by and large my own. Experience is being getting experienced people on racing conditions. It's the best way to regulate our business. But I think it's that way in any industry for that had industry to be.

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"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

03:59 min | 9 months ago

"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"And A. With Alan and Alan Rifkin and William from the city and it should be I imagine it'll be a pretty billion the crowd on hand Allan Thank you Don thanks Alan Foreman and the work in Maryland obviously there's is the dot teased across but this this is amazing and if you haven't gone through I'll send the link I think there's any harm in seminal find out there's the detail plan with what what the actual track they're going to rotate the track thirty degrees to frame things up better and they'll still be stalls they'll still be four Barnes essentially with what are now the steak barnes because the meat and potentially the meats. If there's going to be fault beat as well maybe there's a spaceship in situation so you know the hundred and Change Horses that would would be racing them four let's see four if you had probably probably have stalls for one hundred sixty maybe or Barnes Twenty on each side stalls of find out about that but anyway the ship in style meat is is what they would the setup for and then there's just unlimited the potential and it it's really amazing the Laura side of it you know for those that don't you know didn't really realize laurel was given a facelift but that building was was in no shape the mail for long-term retrofitting so congratulations stronach group Wu acquiesce on one front and had get the benefit on the back end of getting exactly what they had aspired toward for Laurel and it also frees up you know the with buoy freeze it up to and not to use that as a training facility horses can all be all be Ah Laurel that'll be the the central training facility for for everybody it's really it's amazing let's take a break Brendon Walsh is gonNA join us next I was shocked when I heard I didn't hadn't occurred to me that was his first great one with Max fill in the breeders futurity and the the street sense Godolphin Colt just blew that apart it's pretty amazing it's pretty much one with something laughed with authority in-command in Hand as we got Brendon Walsh joins us next Johnny de Nacho Correa Stick Mandela it's a lot of broadcast back after this Sirius Xm radio amazing achievements were Pennsylvania breads on the world stage thanks to find a city unique belly shamrock rose. PA Joins Kentucky as the only state in the past decade to read.

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"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

16:07 min | 9 months ago

"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"The dot com after a amazing unpredictable thrilling stunning rocking pull out all the appropriate adjectives just it had everything and it had it in the news category in the international category and then of course the Breeders Cup ramifications category every every possible outcome contributing to a an amazing two and a half days Started with the keeneland opener on Friday which was really entertaining it always is and then it fed into Saturday saying even before enables attempt at a third arc de Triomphe triomphe That fell short fell short the given the ground given the Arkham stances just just got beat ran great the noble effort John Gosden amazing in gracious in defeat little bit of the ground a little bit of the trip little bit of vault guys the being just really better on the moment and and he's certainly deserving winner of the Arcot trade Bob who's just legendary though the performances of legends the two-footed Legends they they they abounded over the weekend we'll we'll talk about Richard Mandella in a minute but let's go back into five am on Saturday morning because aside from the the racing action including Friday's also by these win British idiom interestingly the two year old racing some dominating efforts we'll talk about all of them we'll talk to Brendon Walsh who got his first grade one with Max `field but British Idiom on Friday when's the also by`dys Brad Cox and Max Field dominated the twenty four hours later New York the present and the champagne dominated Tis Law Barclay tag funny side to point out the whole thing sacking Toga etcetera and then yesterday wicked whisper to for the leave blocks always happy to see Alex Leib long and Joanne just so committed to the the industry and rewarded with a great one two year old filly really really nice so much to do but back to the news that broke on Saturday morning before many of us were awake I actually didn't get up myself until after six on a Saturday which is a little unusual but the news had had broken that a remarkable deal involving every working part of Maryland I and racing interests and state city and county government agencies all came together to craft a just a a sweeping and Land mark deal that will keep the preakness at old hilltop and a new old hilltop that is going to be potentially everything that has been discussed these last several years Years Alan Foreman I won't get into the details right now because Alan form is gonNA join us in about ten minutes and essentially for those that are hearing the news for the first time or don't know the details stronach group deeds PIMLICO and environs to the city a reworking of the funding that comes from this very clever the comes from the gaming in Maryland the legislation the legislative body Annapolis will have to make blurb line changes and the biggest concern of course all of the project and the potential for the project was going to be where the money was gonna come from because the the Baltimore didn't have it the state didn't have it at Saturate well this was very clever and I can't wait to hear from Alan the specifics of of you've how it basically came to be by laurel gets a complete overhaul and will be you know essentially the nearly year round home of of racing in Maryland expanded stabling and brand new building and they get everything that they wanted at Laurel matching funds essentially one hundred and seventy five million dollars the project in Park Heights multi use facility community centre sports fields public area unlimited potential mixed use zoning for retail and what could essentially a just a I think Alan Rifkin used the word transformative basically be a really a impetus for renovation and rebirth in and around park heights a temporary areas for temporary seating for preakness it the this it's really amazing and I had Alan for them it had at kind of let me know a little bit on Friday night and the details are just I crossing I mean what how how this was pulled off a is amazing so we'll talk to Alan just a little bit and really looking forward to it and then Brendon Walsh Johnny de top of the hour nuncio caress Nacho winning Yes sir hey this spinster back to back against against the odds L- let's be honest I it just didn't just didn't feel like loop rise could defend in that setting against the late and Dunbar road did just that and you could see if didn't see and hear Nacho just very emotional over yesterday's upset several one you got on if you are a believer in blue prize just one of the performances that that resonated on this just terrific weekend I was at Belmont on Saturday team and I went down and we went to see the Abbott brothers Barclays that was tremendous fund twenty eight stake races if you fold in parks in the Greenwood Koppen and and how about your is Saint Louis with another with another horse another big win fifty to one adventist amazing amazing job Sono sets the greenwood up twenty eight states you know if if there's a horse that is made to run back on short timing it's a dentist I would run them back in seven days the also had the mastery and the open saucer up at Woodbine so there were twenty eight stakes Santa Anita Valmont Keelan twenty different writers one stakes twenty different riders twenty eight races Joel One three Drayton Van Dyke all the way back from his injury one three Castellano to Mike Smith to an Smith's but the two particularly Kamari win yesterday and had Indian summer it was amazing but and that struck me the the fact that there was such a wide array of witter's connections yeah there were a couple of multiple states winning trainers Peter Miller won a pair and Cox course won a pair are Clo- I can never get arklow right arco with the Hersch Junior Alvarado who else there were a couple of other pairs of of of winters I bought this Miller Cox cassie they all but there was for the most part the Asmussen to including catching engaged wjr in the Phoenix on on Friday that was that was a nice little they're few few nice pops over the weekend that was one of them but Neptune store was terrific to it at Belmont Hill prints well-placed eyeball Baltics just does a tremendous job the the win though that it just I think blew everybody away uh for a variety reasons first of all it was just playing exciting under the circumstances but Omaha his win in the Santa Anita Sprint Championship Mandela Mandela just defies defies the superlatives you can't come up with enough it it just shake your head with all the fits and starts hiccups in the maybe go here let's prepare for this race in we're we're thinking we wanna WanNa run in the shared belief maybe we'll go to the one turn act because we don't want to turn a was Larry we're gonNA shorten up for the Santa Anita Sprint Championship and you just went into it saying to yourself just hope he breaks hope he gets a good effort in and that he's healthy and moving in the right direction kc right how much more could you really count on or or expect and you thought he could win be chance a lot did you really think even if you're a believer even if you even if you're odd it admiral by the complements and and brilliant career regular decades long examples of of his savvy patients well this was this was unbelievable I'm sorry I I I know that one of the reactions for people was oh well chance lot just you know is not the same the horse that we saw you know that that that win at Saratoga obviously is one of those outlier performances Ah he's not the only horse that's ever done that but he's sound like he's run terrible since but Omaha beach gets the there's a million discussions to be had about who's running who's not the reason they're not the reason there a lot of this was triggered Saturday afternoon after the Champagne I- Tis aw elbow certainly not going to the Breeder's cup juvenile but certainly Jack noten didn't do nobody any favors by saying that he's got concerns about the racetrack that that you don't WanNa go because you want to stay home run in the revson stick around and campaign toward your three year old season with his law but that was just not necessary many Franko with a you could tell how happy and excited he was so much of this boy it it is there's just everywhere I look I haven't even talked about sister Charlie not necessarily her best effort but enough to win the flower bowl I told you about deputy storm the weekend forget dolphin believable Godolphin. Obviously we'll talk to Brendon Walsh after Alan Foreman AH wins the reader sheet thirty wins the matron wins the turf sprint I broke up Bayden or two had a couple of seconds as well a huge huge weekend for Godolphin Samantha upsets yesterday at Santa Anita talk about those watch city hope that might have been the best of the weekend for horses those is on the wire our noses after the first break Allen format talk about the new PIMLICO next with St I bet let's be honest we know you love playing the race but you can't always makes a detract sometimes life.

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"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

10:10 min | 10 months ago

"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"We'll see order freshman as but those seem to be the top three for now well the looking ahead into do the really the the meat of the sail when when you get the kind of dollar numbers that were generated in book one the others plenty of high I profile outfits Brian that undoubtedly were rebuffed these last three days and so that pushes into book two and three absolutely absolutely and there's still there's a lot of driver powered by I took. I haven't really done a lot of work on book yet. I took a look and I source through the ring is a hard one don't have Shackelford and then there's still seven topix three warfronts fourteen curl and thirty two into mischief a lot of quality road on here the Nile so I mean I think the prices were still be pretty high book to unbelievable and the other the other thing I I've always watching for is the pin hook interests and they in recent years. I mean this goes back to a story that I can remember Glen Cain Oak. I I suggesting the this scenario of Pin hookers paying big six figure the numbers and then turning it into seven figure sellers as two year olds but even the pin hookers that are willing to do that and of course course hardly the Renzo famously have helped champion that delay JJ crappy who's obviously going to be missed here at the keeneland and everywhere but what pin hook activity. I mean I saw a couple of little nibbles sir from some of the the pit cooked names and then there was one rene daily had. Maybe I think it was like a five hundred thousand dollars yearling linked to nine hundred thousand so a lot of people who spending two three four hundred thousand on weanlings were seemed to be rewarded with you know close to seven figure sales this time round and that's definitely been a trend to wheeling yearling have been more popular. I think it's just because the market is so tough for the yearling prospects rex especially if you're trying to pin hook that people have kind of had to go back here and find the weanlings and do it that way seems to be paying off for a lot of people well ah certainly certainly the familiar pin hook outfits those names will start to fill in the gaps on the on the on the roster Mr and then when we when we get to about one hundred and twenty five to fifty when when you start seeing a lot of those numbers the Koreans will swing action. Get more active at the UH the two year old sales but yeah yeah well it. How about you what about what about your group? How how talk about your shopping for definitely haven't been shoving yet? It's tough start looking more seriously probably book three Jason Barclay my trainers. GonNa you know he'll be in town. I think he's he'll start looking Saturday. All they're trying to find the best value by usually try to kind of win early types obviously stuff. It's more affordable so we'll kind of be targeting the later books doc but we'll see no eight point two million dollars yet but you've got off to a wonderful start and ah should also talk. Just you know your own. I Brian what what are you. Are you interested in. I mean when you Jason Start Looking Is there a first crop sire that that maybe you don't want to tip your hand. The that that make everybody aware that you think is GonNa hit and at and maybe a value you know over the next week and a half. I am interested in frosted. You know they're obviously be a little pricy but he kind of reminds me of constitution. I mean we love. We looked at every constitution at the two year. Old Jeremy Really liked it. We couldn't really buy one. We liked it could afford but he kind of reminds me like he has. The same profile similar type of work really really talented Meyler same fire line so I mean he's an obvious one but spicer makes a lot of sense. I mean spice down take time and he was obviously a very talented. Resource has pedigree at work looks interesting upstarts a little interesting mostly because of just looking through the later books the mayor's bread take he's going to have a lot of early tights which might get some people by surprise right interesting and when it comes to stallions that are making an early splash you mentioned constitution Russian but co ZAN got hot here over the last couple of weeks at just the right time yeah and I think he we started out. I think he had the most winters early on he was obviously very talented sorts of didn't really get a chance to show it on the track but he's been definitely carrying it up in Florida journeyman Stud and Y- There's always there's always one of those Florida you know one of those Ocala specials whether it's Ocala's thought or journeymen whether it's a camp theros semi. There's always it's amazing. Actually how consistent th there's there's been somebody bubbling under the surface you know getting back yard mayors and just just striking with them. They're absolutely right. There's a long list of the audience carly had that's right. That's right years ago. I mean the big east. sale this your nine nine hundred nine fifty consular has a feeling I think she was second in the del. Mar debutante before desires are always pretty interesting. Well Whoa Brian I appreciate it and we talked to we talked to Jessica on Tuesday and you've got the team you and Christine that even artists as well and as always the TD and coverage just outstanding the twenty pages 'cause I printed out it's twenty pages printed out daily and the stories are wonderful because you go you know it's it's been a lot of big name so far and well known entities but as we as we get get into the middle portion of the sale books two three and four there's GonNa be home runs for much smaller breeders you know people that have just a handful of mayors and they're going to be rewarded for you know for you know the the the sale of a lifetime with one of their yearlings and you guys always. He's you know always find them and tell those stories. It's great I've seen yeah definitely gets a little more interesting. Sometimes right you know to cover book two or three where there's not always the you know the top guys taking it out on every horse but yeah well be sure to follow Bryant Ryan Bryant di Di di Dio NATO well. That's an easy way to do it. That's the way to do this because there you go be the the Nado. Td N. and the Franklin Street equine team as well that has gotten off to a really nice start. You could see more about out what the Brian and the team is doing Franklin. I've I said STREET FRANKLIN EQUINE DOT COM it is that you're from Connecticut right for my giant Grinder Yup exactly it's a little Italy and Hartford so bad modern modern pastry Ravioli kitchen baby of they don't know how many are still open. I think modern they're all still open Franklin. Although I've been going up the block when my father was in the hospital I found I found another grinder shop. Shockingly preferred the meatball there. I mean I aw I my count of Franklin Avenue giant Grinder meatballs are it's the need an abacus. You Need Sperry Univac the count on many I that's that's so I just made that connection the Franklin Avenue that mutated in where'd you go to school Connecticut College Nice to funny. What about high school I grew up the town just south of Harvard art show? I listen I I went to Watkinson and tons of kids. Our weather's feel too funny too funny. How is it that I know you've almost twenty years and I never come up from a from area to forbid chester? Even being the other day I guess he was putting on her neck of the voice and he went to Shady Glen but let's as copy like that because that's all I remember most finally grownups shady glen about it's about a mile from where right where I live where I live my father's still is the home the John Bernice rig the original the cheeseburger and even there I tell you what I've become a big cheese furhter the cheese further more and more when I when I go home I actually never author fabulous fabulous. It's a it's a It's a legal frank. Just just terrific. Well there. Go.

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"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

14:45 min | 10 months ago

"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

"We've been have a former child. Prodigy here is a superstar horses Namus afternoon delights and kept the song afternoon delight absolutely galloping and the Hollywood retarded these are the champions that help out the horses that might not have one great one race but always try just as hard come visit them all at all friends when you're in Kentucky or at our Bobby Frankel Division old friends and Saratoga I know they'll be glad to see old friends equine blind dot org or call us at five to eight six three seventeen seventy fought breaking down with biggest stories in the world they were saying this is at the races with Steam Dick on Sirius. XM RADIO AW we're back at the races a little past the bottom of the hour thanks for the visit happy to check in with Brian de Denardo who was in the middle of all the action yesterday and of course when I when I acid Fernando yesterday said is it possible that the Leslie's Lady Philly could could top the Carlin from Tuesday. Maybe maybe well Brian how about doubling the sale topper Tuesday morning excellent excellent I this was this was crazy and I it's just so funny would when when you hear the numbers and when you're watching the ticker go up and up and up and you figure well let's shake Beau coup more and and then when we're we're getting towards the end if they get the mandy pope did flashing my mind but I thought no way she's there's no way and then minutes. It's later there. It was pope talk about what happened. It was fine because she was sitting right across from us and the rest of the Spencer team and they were up have have you got up to four million so it was kind of you could see them bidding back and forth and then you knew somebody was back and usually that can only mean one of two groups but it was crazy. I've never seen a yearling so for that much in person so definitely definitely electric in the room I it is amazing and I've not by opportunity and and of course there there's all kinds of stories about the green monkey moment at calder but I had been at called her that day and and then had to head to the studio when we with the time we were doing the four to seven hours and so I left but John Pirata stayed and John Call all the show called. Jj and I and it said you're not going to believe what just happened and John was there in the eighties. When in there were the crazy numbers at the time and even even he said but I think for a certain generation of people in the business is this to be on hand for it was just they were just stunned? I mean that that seems to be everybody's reaction. Yeah I mean you're more used to seeing it with mayors. There's I mean like the phasing November sale. Obviously have horses sell for Crazy Mountain Mendis usually and they're getting those ones but yeah it's there's definitely pretty surreal from from a couple of standpoints afterward and in in reading your account and and you know everybody that was on hand digesting three amazing days. Was it more pro more or less predictable that philly with this pedigree would go as opposed to you know what would be a brother of Mendelssohn and into mischief Jeff I mean I guess it's a little less predictable. Generally the really high end colts will sell for a little bit more obviously with their dying potential I mean she's already kind of ready made broodmare. Obviously it's GonNa be tough to recoup that unless she's a ends up being a good racehorse but I mean I hit hit. The there were rumors that this was the best four out of the mayor too so I think people that she was a really Nice horse twenty three years old or whatever you don't usually see that well and that you had quotes from an and the the video of what is obviously Lee at emotional Fred Mitchell. I mean it with all the wonderful things that that Lesley's lady has wrought Clark Land Farm. I mean this is this is some way to cap off a broodmare career absolutely allen. They're keeping the next two foals. There's not this time philly and then she's back in Fulda Ken Theros and I think which is carrying a Philly and they're gonNA keep those two so this was the last one that's going to be offered a public auction of well it it put the cap not just on book one but on on another just remarkable day and you still have got books two three four five at six go through after today's dark day I I summarise summarize the first the first book Bryant. Would you most struck with it's tough to compare the the stats here year. They've changed the formats over those four days book when last year three this year but I mean it seems strong by any measure Eddie measure the first day seem I'm pretty solid and then got better than at the beginning of the third day. I looked over we were I was talking to my colleagues. One of US said Oh. It's going to be one of those days. You could just tell we're going to be a lot of million. Dollars is a lot of activity in just from start to finish and then in the last ring you see Chad Brown. Come Down with Peter. Peter brant coolmore. Was there Ellen J guys. Were there bidding. I don't even know what the horse ended up going for. Maybe eight hundred I think it was an uncle mo but from start to finish finish it was it was a crazy day like that. You know there's a lot of money flying around seven hundred and fifty thousand for that call that close those things out and the Joneses Erna Marie Jones consigned through tailor made and you know you mentioned Peter Brant and Coolmore tied in that last one and of course throughout the book one knockdowns you had a lot of those you know those combinations China Horse Club and Windstar maverick racing The you know the now fairly frequent a agglomeration of vinnie Viola Micro Poli and coolmore should this when this came about Brian there was real concern that that it was bad for the market because these were entities that normally normally and historically would be competing against each other what you know now that we've had a couple of years now of this becoming a regular part of the sale seen and now I mean it certainly doesn't seem to be hurting prices too much. I think are enough major players at the top where you yeah certain groups will team up but for the usually the top stallion prospects but I mean I think it's probably a lot everybody diversify a little bit and maybe even risk the little more than they would normally if they were just buying on their own so I mean it seems like it's been good for the market from what I can tell a couple of notes about yesterday and it it you know it's not too often it's not too often in the session topper section of td and Brian that the Phillies lillies they get to the end the front page lead it off but they did yesterday because not only was there the Lesley's lady sale topper. We're not getting anybody at eight point. Three million there was also a two million dollar empire Baker had had this one bread and consigned by gains way Sean Dudin vise that a one point one million dollar Medaglia d'oro this one another Aaron Marie Jones a product that new river equine bought and and then of course on the on the male side you had another five seven-figure sellers including the pioneer the Nile Powerhouse Sibling for Bob Edwards and e five racing two point one million dollars tailor-made bread and could signed there was the one point three million. Are you American Pharaoh the one boy to Kirwin Colt out of Grozny meal that comes out of Lynnwood John John Gutter and was bought by West by West bloodstock for the lows. What else gives us some other ones that you thought were? Maybe even bargains begins at big ticket prices well. I think one thing that was very interesting. The top seven horses we're all by different SIRES and year was cabinet warfront tablet or front and you know they were always at the top seven different. you know American Pharaoh Kirwin warfront APP it Medaglia d'oro or a pioneer the nylon empire maker Union rags. I had a few nights ones quality road into mischief twirling candy add one for nine fifty so would you know little more parody. Maybe at the top and not just you know the Tappan warfront show which I thought was interesting we kind of saw last year to looking at the tally the book one cumulative 's and obviously shake Hamdan and Shaykh Muhammad with just a the free spending a free spending seventy two hours twenty eight horses between them eighteen for shad well ten for Godolphin and a total of twenty seven million dollars spent and I think Sheikh Mohammed bought the next maybe four toppers after the top one. He was very active. He was there which you know it's always a little different means. They're they seem thousand seems to spend a little bit more money in kind of go for what whatever he really likes so it kind of changes the market a little bit when he's in town I mentioned we've already mentioned Peter brant and just by himself under the White Burch moniker nine purchases for a little under five million China Horse Club and Windstar little under four million for seven Don Adam who continues to really play at the highest level he bought seven out of book one for a little under four million Larry Best. You can't go too far on these tally sheets without Larry shown up yeah and there are a lot of intimacy of he's you know he's known for buying it really high priced into Michigan. I think there may be in somewhere in the twenties in book two. I wouldn't be surprised to see him active in Book Two as well Tommy Tommy Tom thoroughbreds with seven purchases three million dollars. Ben Glass started to swing into action and of course the sweet spot for for Gary and Mary West and Ben Glass is always that that two fifty four fifty range and you we could probably expect you know another dozen or so. Maybe more over the next five days I imagined definitely not expecting that'd be active in book. Two looking for kind of you know maybe a little more didn't don't have quite as much pedigree you know be considered more the athlete types and I think that's probably what you know. Guys like that are looking for well. The the all family of course and Dennis Dennis's moment haven't even talk talk yet this morning about the draw for Saturday the Pocahontas the Iroquois and lot of excitement for Dennis's moment in the Iroquois two point six million for seven mentioned repeatedly Viola magner you know the international set the Japanese in particular pickier Mr Hosokawa right and there was also a Yoshizawa as well and and they were they were active but you know really China Horse Club three than the ones in partnership so three so make it ten for them it really the international national buyers. They made a splash day one Brian but then we're a little quiet the next two days yeah I think the Japanese buyers were a little more active active on Day. One I think Sean Dugan sign for an overseas group think this in the Middle East not entirely sure but I mean she they act as well S. six hips for five million just the tag under let's talk about some of the stallion stories and obviously the big names you know we we know you mentioned that one twirling candy the only one in book one nine fifty but what about the happy and frosted Nyquist. You know the first crop sires. What were you struck with the what's the buzz on the first cropper's? I mean run. Happy certainly did very well. He was the leeming average but now he's at the top for yearlings a day average four hundred and sixty thousand. Obviously you know it seems like the aggressive active advertising campaign is working out. If you and I caught in the rain there was one other topics very big strong with more he's done very well..

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"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

02:52 min | 1 year ago

"alan foreman" Discussed on Thoroughbred Racing Radio Network

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