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Dan Le Batard vs. ESPN, Al Franken Reconsidered, and the Worst 'Lion King' Reviews | The Press Box

"The David after criticizing E._S._p._N.'s no politics policy. Dan Le Batard said he was not in the right frame of mind to be on his radio show Monday. According to Sports Business Journal what I want WanNa know is if you didn't want to do this podcast today. How would you have described your mental state with yield southern's phrases accent four and wouldn't couldn't come? You know that one no I don't yeah that's sort of just like I didn't WANNA show or I. It wasn't in the mood for showing up. Brian was sent foreign couldn't come today. I feel like we've seen a lot of celebrities. Who are maybe politicians with their job site exhaustion right mental exhaustion? That's kind of a nice this kind of a simple exhausted. I think we're your I remain somebody who produces a shell the correct answer that you couldn't give would be. I'm currently asleep it just earlier today. Brian Stelter tweeted a a quote from laboratory today saying that he was upon his return saying quote. I'm a little scared a little nervous. I'm walking a bit of tight rope so you know the metaphors didn't end on day one. They're still going. I think that I would have been a little bit more sympathetic if you said he was nervous as a cat and room rocking chairs to go on the air today we're the brain rod of media podcasts the press box a part of the ringer podcast network Hello Media Consumers Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker here much of great stuff to get to on today's show. We're GONNA talk about that Big Al Franken story in the New Yorker. We've got a report from America's content farms on the subject of Jeffrey Epstein. We've got the dateline of the week and the overworked twitter joke of the week as though is but David back to the Dan Le Batard affair last Thursday Lebatardshow went off on Donald Trump's racist comments about the Congress members not squad <hes> and the centre-back bit in particular. He also went after E._S._P._N.. Let's listen to a little bit of it. There's a racial division this country that's being instigated by the president and we we hear at E._S._p._N.. Haven't had the stomach for that fight because you're mel did some things on twitter and you saw what happened after that then here all of a sudden nobody talks politics on anything unless we can use one of these sports figures as a meat shield in the most cowardly possible possible way to discuss these subjects but what happened last night at this rally is deeply offensive <hes> done by the president of our country Lebatardshow read a tweet from Nick right who is apparently allowed to go in on the stuff off and then he continued. Let's let this tape role a little bit longer. It is so wrong what the president of our country is doing trying to go down getting reelected by dividing the masses at a time when the old white man old rich white man feels oppress being attacked by minorities Black People Brown people women. That's who were going after now Black People Brown people women and that's the like. Let's do it as the platform. That's what you're seeing and the only way we can discuss around here because this isn't about politics. It's about race. What you're seeing happening around? Here is about race and it's been turned into politics and we only talk about it around here. When Steve Kerr Popovich says something we don't talk about what is happening unless there's some some sort of week cowardly sports angle that we can run it through when sports has always been a place where this stuff changes five seconds after something like that happens David? Everybody's mind goes to E._S._P._N.. And Politics E._S._p._N.. And Liberalism what is the policy here's where my mind goes to the anguish and Dan laboratories voice because what he is explaining there is the eternal conundrum of being a sports writer there what you do on a daily basis is is about these games and what you're not talking about on a daily basis is about that shit that's going on over there in the White House and seems like a much bigger story. That's what he's talking about and we're looking at it now through this E._s._p._N.. Lens wins and the rules and Jimmy Eternal. We'll get to that in the second this is this is what being a sports writers all about and it saying that I have this giant platform and somehow either I'm not or I can't talk about the thing that it seems much more important. It seems like a much bigger story and sometimes that plays out his policy between the writer under the media member and their employer but I think most the time it just plays out in somebody's heart and in their mind and you know to me if I ever meet a sportsreiter sports media person who isn't feeling this especially right now. I kinda wonder what's wrong with them and I kinda. Wonder you know if you if if you just think that this little thing we do over here. Most of the time is just fine and there's not a little party that wonders if you shouldn't be doing something else with your life then I just you know to me it was to me it was lebatardshow articulately articulating something that has been around forever. Would you think I think that's right. I think I I think that you put perfectly <hes> you know we're not in the finger-pointing segment of the of the discussion yet but but I do think that there's something to be said for you know when you when Your Business Model is creating this you kind of wall to wall entertainment world rate <hes> then there has to be room for discussion of other things I mean if your if your intention is to get as a gift people to turn on the channel in the morning or on the radio in the morning and never flipped the dial I mean that's gotta be the you know the goal at the end of the day and then in some in some ways you've gotta you've got to figure out you've got to figure out a way to be oncoming or at least somewhat more encompassing in your subject matter and then in separate from that or maybe it's a it's a corollary to that when your business model is based on personalities right E._S._p._N.. Radio is not just readings sports scores <hes> and like injury reports is this is is Dan Lebatardshow human being is the reason I mean is is is getting paid lots of money by E._S._p._N.. Because of who is a person as a T._v.. Show he has a radio show broadcast T._v.. Show <hes> this is Dan. I mean it's it's it's it's him as if it's him as a personality and part of that personality isn't is interested in talking about this well. It shouldn't be it. I mean on the one hand I get. I get the the corporate stance of like only when it relates the sports only when whatever but it does seem sort of ridiculous on its face when the hook is that someone with a similar job description at another company tweeted about it and now we can talk about now. Maybe that doesn't count for you know maybe that maybe maybe maybe it doesn't count when Nick writes about it but is really all we need just to have like I mean I mean couldn't we just have one low level N._F._l.. Player or one medium tear N._F._l.. N._B._A. Player who just took it upon himself to tweet a liberal deliberate perspective perspective on every political things so that they would have a hook to talk about it on the radio. I mean with that really be a solution because that seems to be what they're asking for and that's what he's that's what he's calling out is so silly yeah exactly I mean and to think that I mean I guess that we discussed this. We discuss this trump. I made their I mean I I tweeted these things. <hes> you know but I feel like at some point you have to just acknowledge that something's beyond the Pale right and and and I think that's what lead guitar was doing here and I think that it's a direct challenge to his superiors to say you know I'm sure that along with all these bylaws or whatever about you know sticking sports they probably said you know at some point. It'll be to the point that we have to. We you know that you'd have to touch on it and I think this is love towards saying we're at that point and <hes> if you don't agree with me then like sure you're you're welcome to come down on the side of the racists. This is well. I think I think John Skipper had a policy who was a previous president of E._S._p._N.. That was like that which is there's all these things we have to do because we're E._S._P._N.. And the data shows us we should do this and this is where the audiences and this is what the audience wants but there is a subset of things we should do because they're the right thing to do because the time the country whatever it is demands that we should do this. This is the right thing to do. People may not want this as much as they want something else but this is the right thing to do. In every public statement Jimmy Petar has made he has not talked in those terms. He has said right very clearly. The data tells us to do this. The data says E._S._P._N.. Viewers brewers consumers do not want politics politics it with big big air quotes so therefore even if you Dan Lebatard were hired as you just said because you're a really interesting person because you're a polymath and when you sit down dinner at night sixty percent of your conversation is about this thing trump said today and you have a great interesting perspective on it you you know a lot of talk about that's it. We don't want that. We want you talking about N._B._A.. Free Agency in N._F._l.. Training camp that kind of stuff and you know listen Lebanon has snuck more non-sports into a sport show then basically anybody in human history especially on that big a platform but you know I don't. It's funny because to me guitars whole thing was you can't talk about this and by the way that forced everybody at e._S._p._N.. Who's politics are similar to Lebatardshow to make a choice and you we I know who these people are? This isn't a secret but those people have made a choice to say. Look you get the E._S._p._N.. Exposure you get the Nice contract you get a perch at the top of the sports media world but guess what you have to play by the rules rules. You can't talk about it and you know but Taro since he came in did that and think of how many people have made that choice think of how many people ninety nine percent of the time on a daily basis of billet okay okay okay one time. It's yeah yeah I mean I think a lot of people would make that choice. I don't think that there's a you know I don't think we need to wade deeply into the moral imperative argument human. I think that for a lot of people a lot of people's Calculus or people are in a lot different position than Dan Le Batard. Maybe Dan Laboratory would have done the same thing if he was broadcasting on a pirate radio to an audience of one hundred people. You know I kind of actually do one away to the moral imperative. I mean a lot of people's Calculus for saying yes is that they DECI is that you know they have other. Their priorities are providing for their family or doing whatever you know there's. I don't even want to cast aspersions anybody else at E._S._p._N.. Let's let's roll this back in imagine that Grantland had continued pass Twenty Fifteen Simmons Simmons resigns you and <hes> we're all sort of happy. GRANTLAND family and Donald trump gets elected and Jimmy Petar becomes president of E._S._p._N.. And you and I look at each other go wait. We can't say anything about Donald Trump up ever either in our E._S._p._N.. Product or basically on our twitter feeds or just we can't use any part of whatever microphone we have. Would we have quit the next day you know in my <hes> Walter Mitty fantasy I'd love to think so but I probably not yeah probably not but I would like to think that you and I would have at least been pushed mentally inside inside ourselves to worry about it and to wonder okay the right decision yes but I think I think that I'm not sure if this I'm not sure what side this really comes down but I think it's worth it's worth pointing out that part would've that there is a moral aspect to that. which is that like the things that are president said in tweeted <hes> you know everyone should be shouting from the rooftops about how offensive inappropriate and problematic they are but there's also so the this maybe this gets back to what we you know? The kind of core of the the the media side of the conversations like the idea that of site light grantland would exist and not be touching on these issues is just might would be impossible to to to consider consider in night in two thousand nineteen right. I mean it would be like I mean. Could you imagine what what the third rail would have to be for Simmons Jonathan AC- to tell us no. We're not gonNA touch on that for fear of offending readers in I mean it would just like the idea that you can be voice driven a writing driven even just an idea driven media outlet in two thousand nineteen and have that have anything have something that significant be off. Limits is just would be mind boggling right so like so. So to say if he if that was a really grantland yeah it would be like I would. I would think about quitting but I would think about quitting almost less oh because the moral aspect and more because of the like I don't this what have we got ourselves into just from a purely functional optional standpoint aspect does that make sense dough absolutely and and when moral you know again it's you're right. It's biting off a lot to say I expect everyone to be up in arms about this and and you know and and calling out trump for racism and stuff like that I guess I'm more mean like just living with yourself and being okay with what you did. You know look we we. We're lucky to work in a place in a great place right now where we don't have those kind of handcuffs on us but still you know you and I spent a lot of our time doing other stuff too. I love. I love writing about Kendrick Perkins I do that's that's fun but when I look back and say you know Brian. Would you do during the trump years. You know I mean I mean you know that that stuff plays into it not because there's anything wrong with writing a piece like that because just what I talked about what the conundrum of being sports writer to your point about voice I think that's so important because the kind of people were talking about here were either hired or promoted by John Skipper and they were hired or promoted because they had a voice and because they were interesting people beyond the world sports those are the people who are now being are are subject to a policy that is really enforceable only two people who are all. I wanted to break N._F._l.. Traits all I want to do is break N._B._A.. Traits I just maybe I care about politics but it's not you know my day. The job is this and this is what I want my work product to be and it to me. It's like you have a rule that was designed for a totally different workforce than the workforce that you actually have and when <hes> you know Simmons by the way I recommend Simmons Hall prelude to this on his <hes> Monday podcast which everybody should listen to <hes> because he's been in the eye of that storm in Bristol you know at a level that you and I can't even imagine but one thing he talks is about as what's going to happen laboratory and I wanted the same thing because dude this is July twenty nineteen. We got sixteen months. AGO is trump that a campaign is trump. GonNa talk about taxes and tax rates. It's for the next sixteen months and if you if you let loose on this one and said how can we not be talking about this what happens when the next one happens you know and one thing we we read all the reports is that you know Qatar when laboratory talk this last weekend Petar said he over and over the he's not going to change the policy that he believes the only clean way to have a policy as saying. You can't talk about this stuff. Well listen any maybe that's maybe that's functional pass through it right right. I mean it's sort of like forget what they call it but to sort of like the twenty four rule when when we had the national debate about torture though it's just like you know I think most level-headed people could agree that the appropriate thing to do is to make it was for torture her in all instances to be illegal and if there was ever instance where torturing someone was the only way to stop a terrorist attack with him. Presumably you would be <hes> you. Would you know you would you would not be convicted of a of a major crime that you would be released because of mitigating circumstances in this and this <hes> that wildly over blowing it maybe but this feels like that right that like there's a there's an exception to every rule and maybe the most powerful thing that that Dan Le Batard can do is to not be overtly political every episode for the next six months and to let and to do only <hes> you know into choose to into to choose to make his stands based on the things that he's he determined to be beyond the Pale. No maybe we'll be in a situation where many many any instance have been beyond the we could think twice a week but I think yeah I mean listen. No I mean this podcast keeps on going along I guess but but the but I do think that there's a I do think that there's a power to him. You know I mean it's not the Dan Le Batard has apolitical person known was particularly shocked by this but when it happened. I think that a lot of people were caught off guard and I think that that is where a lot of the power of woody of his statement came from right eight absolutely absolutely can confirm and and so after E._S._p._N.. They were absolutely taken aback and blindsided and so maybe that's I mean maybe the the answer is Petar rose rule I mean I think there's some legitimacy to if to the to the idea if you're gonNA take that this is this is a this is what E._s._p._N.. Is going to pursue in the abstract. There's legitimacy the idea that you have to have a hard and fast rule or else policing it would be impossible <hes> and then may end so maybe the the functional way forward is to have that be the rule into punish the Dan laboratories of the world when they feel as necessary to speak out but to punish them in consideration that there I mean we consider when doling out the punishment that they're doing a supremely important thing that they believe very strongly in you know. When is it like? It's like the equivalent of finding a n._F._l.. Player like twenty five thousand dollars for missing a meeting or something like that Yeah Yeah Yeah. I guess I guess at the end of that is the the E._S._p._N.. Is E._S._P._N.. Enforcing its discipline. Policy part is the part. I just don't give a shit about at all. It just seems so small in all this but that's why but that's what we're talking about it. Though right I mean Eh. It's actually not why I'm talking about but you know I just. I just think I think that is yes. You're right that is that is the cheese in the mouse trap that everybody runs too because it's E._S._p._N.. And politics it's media reporters Clay Travis and all all that stuff to me I just said I just think there's something I think there's just a much bigger idea here about the profession that we work. I remember talking to Bob Website many years ago about this bob website who snuck more politics into a sports column than any human being has ever done and in writ wrote it better than any human being has ever done probably yeah he said to me he said you know what I covered sports through the lens of race and gender and Class I did but you what else I could have done. I could've gone out written about race and gender and class. I could have just done that and like I said that to. Me Is the idea in the back of everybody's mind here and and that's the I certainly the idea in the back Dan laboratories bite or dot though the front of Dan laboratories mind but that that's the big. That's a big thing here. It's it's the it's the whole enterprise. It's not about E._S._P._N.. And making rules and all that stuff they they're gonna go on just fine. Whatever happens is Dan Libertarian? They're going to be just fine yeah. It's gone it is it's the business we work in and it's a lot of us not all of us a lot of us kind of coming to grips with that on a daily basis especially in times like these one quick thing on the lips it and say <hes> quote that you just reference this a half remember by the way right. No no no but that's but it's an important idea regardless because you I mean I'll just put you a little bit on the spot but you have a lot of runway at the ringer. You could write more or less what you WANNA right. As long as I mean subject matter wise. There's very few things that are just getting shot down. You know at at at first pitch <hes> if you were determined to write us I mean a a story about <hes> about race racism about class. <hes> there's a good chance you would do it through the through the guys of of sports right you would find you. You would find a sports story to tell that would make the broader point that you want to serve because because that's that's what people are GonNa read right. I mean that's what our that's that's A. There's a you as a writer might find some comfort there but also it's a it's a you know the best way to illustrate a story sometimes is by writing through the lens of something else by writing under the banner of sports in some other broad topic that the people are customer reading about the whole point trying to say is one of the one of the scary things about this instance in about where E._S._p._N.. is in general is that it risks shutting down not just the voice that we like on radio but an entire important wing of journalism in literature <hes> for fear that someone might be offended. Were not going to. We're we're going to just say a an upfront no on all all of those things that Bob website wrote you know the none of those things would have gotten through would get through today the thought of that. I mean that's that's frightening. You're saying essentially that sports writers who had this part of their brain would see how high the gates were getting that stuff into print or onto the year so they would just go elsewhere. They just say yeah. I it certainly a fear I mean I certainly at big places. I guess what I would say. Is that nowadays at Eh here we are at the end of the newspaper era. The Wall is shorter than it's ever been at other places so there's a ringer there's deadspin we could name one hundred noises that just really don't care and it just doesn't matter and and they're not worried about it yeah but if you're already working there if you're an employee at E._S._p._N.. If you're one of these big places the idea of like will I risk my job to tell the story when I could just as easily tell another story. I I mean that's that I think that's the that's the fear that I'm talking absolutely and I think in again I think that's the daily choice and sports writing and talking about sports is fun. People do it because it's fun and choosing to write stories and that is is not you know is not just pure toy department people do it because it's it's. It's it's really enjoyable but yet right there. Is that sense like now you know maybe that I have this great idea but maybe I'll do this other idea because it works better <hes> for my <hes> for my employer <hes> and I and again. I just think there's one hundred percent chance at that's happening every day it one hundred percent chance that's happening every day at E._S._p._N.. And elsewhere by the way David Time for the overall twitter joke of the week where we celebrate a gag that was so obvious that all of media twitter made it at exactly the same time said nominees to at the press box pod where they will be gratefully received <hes> David Most horrifying thing this summer that did not happen on Capitol Hill. Was He trailer for the movie adaptation of cats. I'm really not speaking of moral imperatives. Oh my gosh I'm kidding. I think anyway take it away. Dancing cats my first trip to New York. When I was in like seventh or eighth grade my mom and I went to the winter garden does he cats and it was one of the most magical bites in my life it almost it almost made me want to be a theater? Critic got even even understand what that job was and I. I just thought like whatever whatever life is I wanted to be here in the balcony of the winter garden watching cats climb up and down the walls and sing memory at the end of the show then I watched that trailer like what the fuck was that whole thing about. I have no memory of the plot of this at all and I can't imagine what it is. That was so weird I I know what the I know what the plot is. <hes> a doesn't doesn't get any closer to understanding standing with the point of it is there. I think that the overwhelming this is going to be one week I think the overworked twitter jokes sort of all justified the overwhelming feeling that I got in this office I mean around the ringer was that <hes> especially for like the under thirty set <hes> who were aware of this movie the Hallway along. I mean the through production were just sort of like wait. This movies actually about cats. I think now you can hear about the movie a million times cassettes or different sizes whatever and then it's just like no. That's Taylor swift in a in a cat costume. That's just sort of unbeliev yeah. I had no idea that was coming. The plot of it was and it was very I think we should just have a sidebar of just explaining the plots of Andrew Lloyd Webber Musicals. Just oh my directly because I thought they went on this. This may be number one in just batch it crazy but number two would be close number two. Oh I just I just think we could we could make some hair. Maybe it will start that on the ringer <hes> on the press box next week all right David speaking of cats. It was an overweight twitter show just to right. I'm allergic to cats. You sent me that yes melodic cats. I did see a couple people do the side by sides as of <hes> rebel Wilson's cat <hes> laying down with her arm behind her head and Garfield with the same clothes have big big. Jim Davis Moment UH so <hes> I'll anti Rosa asked us to please. Consider the phrase Uncanny Valley for inclusion and for that wasn't overworked twitter joke and a good one the uncanny valley. I love it. Thanks to I- lengthy for that one family David Basketball News <hes> lots of players are excuse me that over again in basketball news lots of N._B._A.. Players ejecting themselves from the Fiba World Cup team this week James Harden Tobias Harris Zion Williamson all not going to play it was overworked twitter joke to announce that youtube twitter user. We're leaving the FEMORAL Cup team and includes not because his particularly funny but this is just this. This is one of the great overwork formats of all time somebody some celebrity announces something and you to decline like I am not appearing at Davos or I will the royal member of the Royal Wedding version of this. I will not that you're going to rumble yes without be attending the royal rumble. That'd be the wrestling version anyway thanks to Dave more hearn for that one all right David before we move on. Let's take a quick break. Today's episode is brought to you by luminary new podcast subscription service with some of the best content around. I'm excited about luminary does the only place you can listen to the newest show in the Ringer Network Greg stuff story of Woodstock nineteen ninety nine. This is definitely a podcast. You can't can't miss break stuff. The story of Woodstock Ninety nine is about a music festival in upstate New York. The became a social experiment riots looting numerous assaults it was set to a soundtrack of the eras most aggressive rock fans and incredibly it was the third iteration of Woodstock Festival known for Peace Love Hippie Idealism Woodstock Ninety nine revealed some hard truths behind the business in danger nostalgia can engender the luminary APP is free to download in addition to the can't miss originals originals. 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Tour and what mayor did in addition to interviewing Franken not surprisingly regrets resigning and thinks he got railroaded is to do a point by point recap of what happened how the first allegations surfaced from Tweeden and then the subsequent allegation than how Kirsten Gillibrand and a number of senators called on Franken to resign. I saw some mild <hes> tweaking of this piece on twitter. I thought first of all this was just a very valuable will tick tock of that whole bear because I don't know about you David I had forgotten a lot of this and I had forgotten for instance the sheer number of charges against Al Franken and the sheer number of accusations I kinda I felt like Oh. It's this one thing but it had a photograph and all that stuff. What did you feel about the peace? Yeah I felt the same way I think that it was that the <hes> I wasn't more shocked because there are more accusations. I should say <hes> but yeah I didn't remember the whole Fa- I didn't remember the whole story. I think you're right that it was it was a helpful way to break it all down and the media side of it I thought was what was most I mean not most interesting but but very interesting especially again for the purposes of this podcast but just the way that ah the there the constant refrain in the peace was that this someone tried to or wanted to do this but it was but they didn't do it because of the way it would come across in the media or they tried to do this but but if found the deaf ears of the media <hes> and just the way that one that kind of media institution of journalism is so predictable <hes> and so in some ways of verse to getting to the Truth <hes> that that I think was was was really <hes> I mean we really stood out to me some of that came from the Franken team because they realized pretty early that there were inconsistencies in Tweeden story. Are there a couple of elements that tweeden story that weren't true. She Thought Dot for instance that Al Franken Al Franken were performing on this U._S._O.. Tour for troops overseas and yet they had a sketch and there was a kissing scene in the sketch where he and she were going to kiss and she said that she thought he had written Cnet for her as a way of trapping her and then there's all this video out in the world and also testimony from other women who Franken went on the tour that he had performed the sketch many times it was supposedly a body body was the word for word repeatedly used in the space a body sketch the done there were things like that but Franken is you said early ish in this me in the METOO era thought he couldn't say anything about that because he thought if I come out with this it'll sound like I'm being defensive and it'll it'll just make things worse and he was calling for a essentially as Senate investigation into himself. Yeah meanwhile meanwhile all these other women come forward and eventually the eventually Gillibrand and a number of female senators call under resign and then he feels like he can't do anything about that I was it's funny because I saw nate silver tweeted he called the peace manipulative as hell and a master class and biased reporting and editing since she accusing using the New Yorker and mayor of stacking the deck <hes> to try to get readers to be sympathetic for Franken that I think was probably some of the intention of the piece I actually came out with the totally opposite feeling though which is that while there were some things that happened very quickly and you know he certainly felt pressure and eventually cave depression resigned from the Senate. I wasn't so sure that he got railroaded at all and one reason that is that this this photograph existed way before Al Franken ran for Senate in two thousand eight Al Franken reminder won his Senate race by three hundred and twelve votes out of more than two point five million votes cast yeah now if the if if Leeann Tweeden had put forth that picture in two thousand eight is Al Franken even in the Senate no no way I mean he he he had a lot of stuff to deal with during that campaign about <hes> drug use on S._N._l.. And you know some some humor <hes> pity road and some sketchy on all that kind of stuff. I don't know that I don't know that he's even in the Senate at all so it seems a little weird to say oh well you know just because this came out in the context of Harvey Weinstein Wean FM you to Roy Moore which was a campaign going on mayor writes a lot about that that he would have <hes> that this was the only reason aim at just almost. I almost thought Oh what a weight I forgot that this this happened a long time ago and he might not have been in the Senate to begin with insomuch as it was a political hit on Franken whether or not it was there was railroading involved the New Yorker piece by Jane Mayer went out of its way to to kind of explain this but the the story originated with <hes> conservative a an l._a.. Conservative radio station but they they published it on their website <hes> in mayors retelling to give it sort of the sheen of legitimacy but they didn't you know they didn't ask Franken's camp for any comment or anything before they before they published for fear that someone would would beat them to the story or the story would come out. <hes> you know I think our view our perspective. I think it was that's worth pointing out and I don't know how much the repetition of being printed I really matters but I do think that perception skewed by the fact that this was a successful hit and or names you WanNa consider it a hit. It's skewed by the fact that he that you know he ended up resigning from the from from his job right <hes> and if this had been a total boondoggle this has been like a Jacob walls thing then I think we would look at it all completely differently you know if if he had kept his job and everything had blown over I mean I I guess what I'm saying is I think we judge the story based on the results in in in based on what actually happened and and and and whether or not mayor's piece is just corrective or you know manipulative trash whatever as as <hes> as nate silver called it. I mean not not those words but manipulative. <hes> you know I think I think that ah the pieces is worthwhile. <hes> on its own terms the I just add two things to that which is not only did franken resign but donald trump and break cavanaugh didn't ran for after being accused of much much much much much much much more serious thanks and so there's all this discontent tour to anger on the left that those guys got away with it and somehow Al Franken again for for stuff that was just not even in the ballpark didn't get away yeah and that to me in that to me. Is I mean it's in a way that's why the mayor pieces so valuable because that was my thought about it and then you read this and you realize there's a lot more this just a lot. This is a lot more complicated than that and you know I don't know Joe Biden we saw push through a bunch of accusations of unwanted touching and sort of weird behavior Franken had a bunch of accusations like that even his in some of his staffers say that he did you know kind of Hollywood show business thing of just kissing all women on the lips even women. He didn't know well something that wouldn't be interpreted very very rightfully interpreted as as a weird thing to do <hes> I thought the other theme that came out of this from Franken Zand is just as political tactics this obviously part of him that wishes he just had hung in there and not resigned and pulled a Bob Menendez and said hey this looks terrible but I'm not going anywhere and you can either reverence in the peace right you can either stand with me or not and we'll do a huge investigation and look if tweeden accepts his apology as she did and says she didn't want him to resign. If then you'd have you know some of these act if some of the accusations of he had been able to get some information out there and stuff like that would he have had to resign like six months later I don't know does they get reelected. Maybe and I t but again that's all coming from him and I just I thought that was an undertone here of like maybe Franken thinks he did the wrong thing yeah and if he had if he had you know run this back you would have just hung in there yeah. This is really minor really really small part of the story but for the you know Kirsten Gillibrand and and I mean I guess Comma Harris was mentioned was part of that original group that that <hes> they went to Schumer as well but if you're so politically insecure that you can't wait to actually have evidence bear out <hes>. I'm not sure how that really reflects on your demeanor to be president. I think that's a question that's worth asking right. It's certainly been asked <hes> and just do. We have any doubt that the Franken thing just just you know cut the tires on the GILLIBRAND for president campaign before even started <hes> I mean it said pretty explicitly and the piece yeah yeah yeah I mean that's like to me when I hear when I hear criticism of Gillibrand. It's like I would say it's like seventy. Percent Franken related yeah online anyway but <hes> a really interesting piece recommended Jane Mayer The New Yorker David twenty twenty dropout watch eric swallow has already gone. We've already. We've what we we already miss. Her swell could Maryland's John Delaney be next. I WANNA refer you to a piece in axios by Alexi maccammon titled John Delaney any staffers of asked him to drop out things things are going well when you the people who work for you are begging you to stop running for president. <hes> Maccammon reports that these staff thought he flopped at the first debate Miami <hes> notes that Delaney has not been competitive despite spending nearly nineteen million dollars and loaning himself eleven million dollars of his own money Delaney's wife April she reports is <hes> basically running the campaign according to one former staffer and and Delaney. There's a feeling delaney as easily influenced by outside forces like his wife and friends rather than his own staff officer Mitre David John Delaney has been running for president for nearly a year now yeah he declared last summer and. <hes> Kinda ran that I'm the only guy running for president bit for a long time anyway. It seems it seems like things are he's going to be in this next debate so maybe that's Kinda pulls pulls a swale well and as soon as as soon as you run out of debates you're out yet. Maybe that's a strategy here. As long as I can get free time on cable. I'm running for president and assured as the free cable time draws up drives up. I'm gone <hes> Delaney denied the report port and yesterday he could be seen tweeting quote. I talked about my favorite APP might go to Karaoke Song and my inspiration for fighting climate change on now this news so we were not deprived of knowing <hes> John on Delaney's <hes> go to Karaoke Song. I did not have the heart to watch it. A dateline of the week. David was El Paso Texas Home State L. Texas Great City El Paso An N._b._C. reporter went there to take stock of the floundering and that is the official journalistic adjective here floundering campaign and Beto Aerobic and I'm GonNa read the lead of this article and you just stopped me. If you hear something that maybe sounds a little bit off okay and it may be que El Paso Texas. Are you ready quote. BETTO Rourke has gone from fee NAM to front runner to flailing in five months and so he came home to this dusty bordertown last week to regroup now may way dusty S._T.. Bordertown better roof is not from where snoopy's brother lived in the dusty bordertown. That's fantastic. El Paso has six hundred thousand plus beep dusty bordertown. What what pulp fiction did the person by the way went there this is this is another line in El Paso this isn't they didn't just like Google like retro postcards from El Paso History? Was She watching touch of evil on the plane when she got off something dusty border John Anyway what is dusty even me in the city this is it just the old western like like dirt streets and stuff. I don't even know that the saloon and the S- Asprilla being sold in a card or something like that at tweeted this somebody somebody somebody tweeted back well. El Paso is kind of dusty so maybe anyway David. I'd like to nominate eighty door-stepping journalists of the week. He is Javan Vitol of the T._V.. Station New York one and at the U._S. Capitol he was following Rand Paul of Kentucky around Rand Paul Big One of the two senators to block unanimous passage of a bill that would fund the nine eleven victim victim's compensation fund once you listen closely here is some of the audio of tall and Paul's encounter in the hallways of Congress. This is so good Serra anything you can say to the first responders daughters who came yesterday interesting to see if you watch Fox News we just did an interview on Fox News and there's a lot of good information on their fuel. Tell your viewers tuned into Fox News. We have some great stuff there about Fox News but she I really quickly well. I if you're a professional you could call and get an interview like they did so we try multiple times yeah. I don't know who you are. Who you want your one sir? What is your objection to the bill if you'd like to be sort of professional reporter with all their respects or what what is your objection to the nine eleven hundred bill if you'll call and get an interview great idea understand you have issues with the national debt you watch Fox? Is your objection Sorting Watch Fox News. You'll see that we explained explain exactly what the laws were so watch Fox News King or deny clean that up sir. What do you mean by the lies? Is there anything else you can tell us sir. Thank you Sir Wow. How do you think Rand Paul genuinely wants Giovane vitale to be professional reporter in the help them and it'd be like chasing some career advice area? Yeah you just feed just watch Fox News and transcribe. My remarks marks off a friendly outlet. We could find like this and even do you think that maybe this doesn't matter. Do you think that if you watch Fox News I already didn't interview. There is a more compelling case than no comment and I mean. Do you think that he do you think he came off looking better than if he had just been like yeah no no no big deal but no comment right now. Wouldn't that have been the way to go if you're determined not to talk to anybody absolutely it sort of cuts the interview short right. Are they going to run as New York one going to run a minute of following mute rampal down the hallway probably not no I was I was watching it. I was I couldn't help but think local news is like the dorkiest old media thing there oh yeah only so many things that transfer from that world into twitter world but guy following politician down the hallway and politician lecturing the guy is one of those things that translates perfectly yeah. It's amazing. It's it were it works on twitter just like it worked on the Channel Six. I team back home yeah well. This is also it's also this is the case. This is the case you know for just sort of laying bare the filibuster. You know we've talked before about how you know. One love trumps masterstrokes is figuring out that he could just bullshit for thirty seconds in this question would change into something you wanted to talk about. All you have to do is going to run out the clock <hes> man. I'm sure that Rand Paul probably thought that he was running out the clock. I bet he thought that this is going to be a five second clip anywhere if it amounted to any T._v.. Time at all but I mean he just looked like someone who didn't have the facility to discuss a vote. He had just made an like. I mean that's this is this is this is all the candidates in the next cycle. These are the the the campaign commercials against him for I mean for his opponent. This is just going to be this just walking down the hall not having an answer to a very simple question David. I have a content farm report for you. Row Radio Station might have a farm report. We've got a content farm report here. <hes> really interesting piece by Tiffany Sue in the New York Times about Jeffrey Epstein who is <hes> been accused been indicted on sex trafficking charges. <hes> the pieces called Jeffrey Epstein steen pitched a new narrative and these sites published it so after Jeffrey Epstein got out of jail yeah for the first time back in two thousand nine. He tried to rehabilitate his image by having someone pitched journalist about all the good stuff done. I'll his all his good works. <hes> got pieces in National Review HUFFPOST FORBES DOT COM quoting Tiffany Sues P._C.. Or the article on Forbes website was attributed to drew Hendrix a contributing writer as times revealed an article last week he was not the author of the peace piece instead it was delivered to buy public relations firm and he was paid six hundred dollars to attach his byline at posted at Forbes Dot Com <hes> she continues about Forbes Dot Com a staff of roughly two hundred employees produces Forbes's in-house in house journalism but most of the hundred articles the site publishing day comes from a group of nearly three thousand outside writers yeah three thousand yeah I mean Forbes is I know this again only because I dragging in a professional wrestling journalism which is just a wonderful part of the Internet's underbelly but yeah I mean Forbes Forbes is like I think the most <hes> too I mean people are constantly surprised at Forbes is just the content mill like some of the worst offenders out there all do is just published a I mean emailing a piece in the odds are it's going to go up on Forbes Dot Com and he's GonNa look like a legitimate peace and it's going to have the imprimatur of you know high level journalism but no this is just like a this is like it's it's blog spot you know the the differences is vanishingly small think of how many art requests he get on a given day and how strung out you feel just imagine three thousand writers. That's that's more than the New York Times says reporters and it's it's. It's crazy three thousand. We got time for one more thing. Do you wanna hear Aaron Boone Yankees Manager Dump in for the Yes network on slinked television. Do we wanna read <hes> negative reviews of the Lion King this Sea Lion King come on we already did it the Department of pans. I'll meet up with these together. Thank you Chris <hes> from the Department of Pans. I always loved these because it's kind of like an anti blurb. Here's what you will not see on the lion king commercial attributed or the poster in the case <hes> Anthony Lane at the New Yorker rarely has brand. 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149 - w/ Jon Ronson "Porn Stars, Psychopaths, Cancel Culture"

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149 - w/ Jon Ronson "Porn Stars, Psychopaths, Cancel Culture"

"Warning this program typically features respectful nuance commentary strong language skier pop culture references in serious allegations no new method of Attack Ladies and Gentlemen Boys and Girls Comrex Burroughs v calmness. It's Michael winner voiceless tonight's national courts. Is that what I think <hes> yes it again because the reaction been strong and I really really appreciate all the emails <hes> Andrew Messages and all that stuff on instagram on twitter the rest of it but this is another special dispatch and we're trying to squeeze more of these in this weird kind of summer schedule and it's tough to get Matt Welsh and Camille Foster and myself in the same room <hes> so today as you saw when you downloaded this episode third we had a really really good one and if anybody if you guys out there are paying attention to journalism to radio to film film to podcast. You definitely know Jon Ronson. He's our guest. Today is a Welsh journalist who lives here in New York City and you know he's written books that I'm sure you know psychopath tasks which was huge <hes> the men who stare at goats which became a George Clooney movie and you know recently recently to terrific. Oh I should say also so you've been publicly shamed which is how I know John Because the first couple of chapters of that book involve me well you know precipitating published. I didn't actually publicly shame anyone so that's how I met John and we've become friends and I admire oh him greatly and his staff has been because of its has the greater and most recently he's done to podcasts which I think are both available widely now on on spotify and things like that these two behind a paywall but both are about the porn industry and both are terrific. The first one is called the butterfly effects and the second one he he just released called the last days of August just released probably six months ago about the death of a porn star suicide of a porn star name August Ames and John does a pretty in depth investigation into that <hes> because the initial assumption was that she was publicly shamed and ended up taking her life off as a result so we had an amazing we do preambles sort of after we record them so I can address anything that comes up but there's nothing really needs to address beyond the fact. I got forty five minutes to sleep last night. Why is sending Your Business? You don't need to know that but I didn't get much sweep last night and so I came in here a little shaky. John didn't have a ton of time and said to me after that he would have stayed longer longer because we have these conversations but we did have a pretty pretty indepth conversation which we'd spend more time in the porn stuff because you know we had other great conversations about Oh cancelled culture twitter mobs Alex Jones. It's a pretty good star studded podcast mentions of stars. They don't come on the the podcast so it. I'm happy with it because I thought it was a really fun interview and I think that you'll be happy with it too. If you're not happy with it I don't care. Don't tell me because my feelings and that'll be shamming me. If you do like it. Send me message so now listen to me Michael Moynihan speaking to Jon Ronson Jon Ronson. Thank you Mike for Joining. I've wanted to do this for some time. I don't think we've ever actually talked. Publicly publicly together about there was one time we were both guests on the podcast I'm across Katainen and she mandy Mandy Statler Yeah and until we talked briefly as we were at the same time not yeah yeah but I live sort of intersected over the years in you know unusual way yeah. You emailed me well. Let's get back to. I want to start with your background. You have a very he's odd mancunian accent despite being from Cardiff yes your English yet. We're your manque. When I'm Welsh I left Cardiff when I was about seventeen and moved to eighteen and moved to London for few years and then moved to Manchester and for some reason I guess is to do with some sort of psychology? I adopted the Manchester axe to survive in mantis either survival. Maybe even Falfield. Maybe it was actually alongside. which is the next village? Probably villages have sure would I was I was in Falfield and burn age right <hes> which I think we're the gallaghers are from Bernard too they were. I don't know making move there to be a musician. Yes when I was living in London I met Matt these two bands. I'm frank side bottom who never took off and I'm an Indie band called the man from del Monte and they both expressed interest in the <hes> <hes> Muffin demonte to manage them managing them. If You keep you behind the curtain I'm with Fred Seinfeld I was I was just keyboard player in his agent booking agent and ultimately somebody who wrote a film about him. Yes I co wrote the film frank with destroy the sort of fairy tale version of drags out but I think it's still available on Netflix. Is that correct take it off Oh i. I hope it's still yeah. I don't know I haven't checked so so that road. It's kind of a weird winding road from being the Keyboard Franks I bought him. You become a journalist now. Yes what it was quite simple. Actually I was I was clearly not cut out for the music industry. The man for Del Monte were <hes> should have made it and I think the only reason why they didn't was because I was their manager English shut name to and also they they they were kind of slightly out of time. They were perceived to be middle class at a time when working class bands were were popular. Let's turn roses and yeah <hes> terrible manager. I was kind of okay agent but then again you just fold up veneer that skillful when you our lower levels you save that right after you confess to being terrible at it by the way so perhaps it's not just calling up the venue. Is this a little more to it than that well yeah and I'm as a keyboard player. I could just play Jay which happened to be the three notes that you needed to know how to play to be infanticide buttons but a dish Maine that I couldn't other bands steph out you I kind of break out. Book is them which is about twelve years later <hes> twelve years later period where you're just sort of working for the Guardian and right place in making some TV documentary T._v.. Stuff documentary co Tottenham Ayatollah which was about my you're hanging out with open back read. Yes must've militant Islamists and you are Jewish. Yes howdy outed me out to be a to G. We had training camp. Oh really a scout hut nick outlook airports and Said told the trade as he said look at me with the infidel John who is a junior would really yes and I said I said surely it's better to do than an atheist and I know the other thing about that story that I am an atheist. I told her what fucker decided to to sit proudly since despite Jewish life and I think they probably think of Judaism Moore's a racial thing <hes> than there is a religious beliefs but yet and he whatever what became of him Oh he's now in solitary confinement and in Beirut for the rest of his life he he what happened was in about two thousand five two thousand six six. There was some Islamist terrorist attacks in prison then he went to visit his mother in Lebanon and had been a lot about publicity about him inspiring terrorism when he was out of the country he was banned from returning and so he was like stuck in Beirut and then he got arrested and he's been in jail for decades with trial my own without that. I don't know his charge was the same charge that people were doing in Brisbane which was inspiring centers. What is it about? I mean we get to this but I mean what is it about your precious about crazy people right. He became rather notorious and famous James Your first book you are wandering around the woods with a kind of not yet bloated but very crazy public access has host from Austin Texas who is now we know as Alex Jones yes and this is what year this was ninety. I'd say ninety nine ninety ninety nine yeah and what was his I mean how did you get him. How is he on your radar at that time? Well okay so I had to internet presence at the time. Oh Yeah who's shortwave people thought he was funny at the time. 'cause I mean he's in you know linked to Richard Linklater Movies Yeah Yeah Waking Life Life another all scanner darkly. He was definitely Austin famous because I remember we went into to get a Tuxedo. He was going to some big fancy event and in the in the Tuxedo stored the guy said you know Scottish quite sheepishly said like I listen to you every night Alex but he wasn't like I could tell the guy in the store wasn't like a conspiracy theorist. He was somebody who listen to Alex like entertainment yeah. What was he at that point when you met him? was He as crazy as his today he he was less well. He was definitely as charismatic and is clearly going. Places says this is why like I'd love to say that I was a soothsayer but he was he was obviously going places. The first time I met him he just it was at Waco is up. David Crushes Place at Waco and Alex Hood rebuilt it with listener donations and so we went I went and Randy Weaver for you know who've assure them ruby rich mean Randy Weaver drove to Waco also by the way Nancy yes and you're still Jewish at this point yes so definitely definitely a bit softer. There is after they did go to a couple of those training camps and like <hes>. What was it Arianna nation old guy that ran that Bush the Turner Diaries Yeah Yeah but yeah so I I mean there are still on the Nazi spectrum? Definitely I've been say you should probably avoid people that are in any way associated with nonsense N._F._l.. I always felt pretty safe around. Weavers Randy's mainly because these daughter rate show was just like a door. She's delightful she. She was like seventy befriends within London like art student who happen to be heavily armed because she came from about family but you keep in touch with what happens like. What am I regrets you know I've tried to? I've tried to get back in touch. Rachel Weaver often happens with the Phelps family and these things that people you know there is those Neo Nazi. Let's see a blonde twins Prussian blue the Panzer Division whatever call and they've since become sort of lefty hippy hippy types of Phelps Phelps and yeah I mean a lot of these people and I wonder if the weavers US I've I've often wondered about it was it was one of my happiest this journalistic experiences doing that show 'cause they were in Li- There in Montana and Idaho not never been the Pacific northwest and I loved it and we just got on like a like. A House got on really well uh-huh yeah. What would the doors within H._R.? Randy was crazed yeah but I guess the question is and I I suffer from this problem a little bit you know as a journalist I tend to fall in love with everybody I tend to I mean it's your job to be able to relate to everyone October chameleon into situations which I see journalists I can't do that and it's you know it's like you're not getting the things they shouldn't think that you love them. I told the story I think once and this is just podcast when I was with somebody and I hope you didn't listening because it was a <hes> a producer we went into bar. God it was like basically in somebody's house and I ordered like a high highlight for something and he was <hes> I heard him at the the bar talking to the moon about trying to explain what was this is not how you do it. You didn't ask for an IVA and the woman was like. I don't know what that what I know what an e._p._a.. fucking budweiser just come on fit in but I find often that I ended up liking these people despite the fact that I find their views a porn yeah yeah me too I mean I liked richler. At the beginning. I liked Alex so I should explain just to finish close to many fascinating characters hairdresser. Yeah we went to wake. I think it was my idea because obviously in so many people's minds the burning of David Crushes Church of the shootings weavers are so kind connected randy just happened to mention to me that he'd never been to to to Waco so I say go trip so we weren't we we weren't road trip to to David crushes place and they were just finishing off rebuilding. The church folk rights was there Oh wow perennial all presidential candidates legendary militia yeah I know is this young guy. Twenty six zero two looks forty six. I'm I I know it's him. 'cause randy weaver was like like a star-struck child is like Oh my God this Alex Jones in one thousand nine hundred yeah because in militia and sort of white separatist circles he was already Eh Star but on an Austin sick too but other than that completely unknown so randy was like Oh my God I listened to you. I'm such a fan and so I started talking to Alex accent. Straightaway Alex was <hes> you know clearly very good at what he does and you say that you know back when you were friends with him. I mean and it's only only recently that because I I remember when I was in his studio in Austin shooting there and I think we're texting yes and I it was really funny and I hope you don't mind me saying this and if you can kind of that but I remember us saying like you know he's mad at me for this kindle kindle single or whatever it was called at the time that you did and you were explaining yourself to me to pass onto him and I was like he's even moderate it'd be now you went full bore. I did it this American Life Story About him which I think he hates and that was about his high school yeah yeah which just you know kind of some of the the key to what he became. What did you like your time with him? You enter Bohemian Grove with him and I should. It's hard for people to understand you weren't really around in the ninety. S A coma Baccari to there was like this was before they done anything particularly bad and there were warnings. I In <hes> in which Lynch movie You'd see in Houston confused you know he didn't he wasn't at that point hounding the parents of children or or being Islamophobic Surpa Colli like that stuff came later in the politics at the time. Were not really they was he political times more just like bizarre conspiracies it it was sort of. I suppose the politics which I guess is a kind of libertarian anti-globalists sort of thing but it was kind of it all felt so pretty vague they can siphon who would have figured that that would end up in the white cheese from from hanging out in the woods. I've some barrel chested lunatic. I couldn't believe it I was I was at the gym twenty years later and I just happened to put my headphones just as somebody said to trump like you okay back on Q. and A. at a campaign rally like you're going back on the Alex Jones Show Alex Jones Guy Yeah I I was I was stunned. It is stunning and when I was with him he was two thousand seventeen maybe sixteen and he was talking about you can never tell with. Jones is that he was saying you know what I want to talk to the President Michael I tell you it's and it's like you talk to them. Do you actually have 'cause he overstates his influence in so many anyway as Roger Stone does the same thing and I mean the question that everybody asked me and I'm sure everybody's asked you when I came back was. Is it an act right. I'm happy happiness acoustic obsessed with this yeah. I'M GONNA ask that question a million times and I've changed my answer used to say I think I like. It's not an act act but I think there's assertive element of exaggeration to and the reason why I always thought that was because we're human grove soon after we left Baheen Grove Alex started announcing that he had overheard these two old men Bahamian Grove whisper to each other like you said he was walking along one of the one of bylanes opinion grove already saw these two men episode of the Simpsons any overheard one side to the other yeah. We're going to get that dialect it which is exactly exactly what Alex Jones would want but he would be absolutely right and it's funny because I was there. The day that the the Russia's ambassador to Turkey was murdered remember that in the art gallery and and he went on the air and he was talking about how NATO NATO is responsible for it and Blah Blah Blah and the globalist and so we had to sit down interview and it's it's it's foolish to debate a conspiracy theorist because they just make take things up right. I mean there's no way of debate like sort of rebutting these things and at this point it was like I said Alex.. This has happened six hours ago my sources on in this and I was like you don't have sources in fucking Turkey. It's not going to tell you the man from NATO. It's like this is not a real. I mean you can't debate yeah yeah exactly exactly but in that moment later on I gotTa Cross with Alex I was on the phone and I said to monarchs. You know it's really irresponsible few few to to be like making up lies about things that we didn't see it but he mean grove and he said what what what are you talking about and. I said like you know you saying that you ever heard to Ottoman going. I'm going to get him elected. I said you either and I swear to God. I mean it's twenty years ago and memories play tricks on people but my strong memory at that moment Alex said today. I'm we know that I didn't overhear them. Say That but I'm not gonNA tell my listeners that yeah you know which which obviously was an admission admission. So when did it change for you and you realize Oh. He actually believes much later that was like my evidence for probably twenty years or eighteen years. Yes whenever anybody asked I said the I think he's faking it because I would tell that story but much later I got this call so I'm at the Republican convention in Twenty Sixteen. Yeah and Alec like there's a guy who's working for Alex as a cameraman and he's he's spending quite a lot of time with me like hiking. I just noticed these like standing next to me. There was little mini riot and me and Josh will huddle together and vaguely thank you. This is kind of weird. Alex Jones is come around is like bodied spend more time with me than with Alex.. I didn't quite get it and he he started texting may like if you stand at this corner this time you'll see Alex Jones and Roger Stern Alex's meeting Roger Stone there have at this time so I think this is really nice and then after the convention was over School Josh again he started texting me and saying when you know I've I'm very conflicted. I've worked Alex fears and I'm conflicted and do you want to meet some time so it was he wanted to be like Alex Jones whistle blower so so we met in a hotel in DC and and it became clear he didn't have anything specific to whistle blow. He just wanted to vent his frustrations ends about about his biggest frustration. was that like he'd come to realize that. Pepsi doesn't use aborted human tissue flavored streams so trump rallies like go up to people at least they look. I want to know that a lot of videos on true you. You're saying that yeah. He was saying this to light people trump rallies and he said to me that people would say about okay what you say. I know it's true yeah and he would say but I'm the one making the videos that are wrong. It doesn't matter it doesn't matter yeah so <hes> so then Josh said to me that he hit the secret from Alex's childhood <hes> which is what I ended up making the second show about but another thing that he said to me I said to it's fake right lie and I told him that story about the telephone call twenty years earlier and he looked really baffled and said look. I spent every day with Alex.. It's it's not fake it the way the Alex is on on cameras exactly the way that he is in his office. Yeah I thought when the cameras went off the volume went down maybe from attend to eight and it becomes quite godless and yeah and you know like I was saying before you know he was fun. He was like Meghan Kelly does interview in. Was You know brutalized for you no no even talking to him putting him on the air and I was offended that nobody brutalized me but yeah I think it's her Fox News background. They hate her yeah. I have plus. She's she's lied mainstream evening yes yeah and she was getting seventy million dollars for from N._B._C. Z. or something but yeah and I ask those questions to and he kind of I have to go look at the tape he walked back the school shooting stuff uh newtown stuff and you could tell that he was and I was pushing him and he got up and said he had to go to the bathroom was clue it he didn't he just went to the room and he was because I was pushing. Calm Down Yeah Yeah Yeah. I mean he's when it's on specific things he I mean the things that he says and I left. I actually made them leave it on the PS because it was just a breath from him and I interrupt him and he's like you know says he's not going to Hillary. Clinton and he's like these people doing this. I don't know the Satan. Satan Satan is talking about and it's so natural to him that is just flavors the conversation and when you stop him and ask him. He's almost baffled by it. You don't you you don't know that this and I'm like no. I don't live in your world at and it's a very strange thing but you know so. You've done obviously Alex Jones. You got got you went from there and again. This is not sort of linear time wise psychopaths and minister goats and other books. Let's get to the one on this sort of still relevant today and the one that one that starts with with you with me. I am in that book. The book is called <hes> so you've been publicly shamed. Tell the genesis of that because again you were before anyone else in this and it was just like people are online and then you saw sort of a trend in this something sinister about it yeah. You know I think like I don't buy any of this in the book because it so like solid cystic but honestly I think the real genesis was that I just just moved to New York from London on moving to a new city. Got was quite a sort of nonplus in for me. I was very happy in London. Somebody's nose now living in New York. I figured out that weather from decided to and so my so I lost I kinda lost my confidence and for for the first year of living in New York and this is why when police in Kosovo subsystem explanation but I'd see people getting publicly shamed on twitter and because I felt like I was like flailing around in my own life having moved to this new city and not knowing what I was doing I found myself empathizing more with the recipients of the shaming a little bit then the I would have done when I was living in London in front of confidence in that despite their crime real or or <hes> well for me. It's a similar thing like I fall in love. Everyone that horrible views is an sympathizing with people the ones that even I have you've taken down and and of course I mean we talked about this. Well we felt bad. Legitimately felt bad about that. First I interview I gave after that because I told you when he was calling me and calling me and calling and calling me nonstop and he finally picked up because I told them and I think he put this number. I said this is bordering on harassment and he said to me. The only question is are you going to talk to the media in. I'm such a dope. I was like I I don't. I mean what I wrote is what I wrote. I don't think anyone's GonNa WanNa talk about this and then two weeks later. I think that's the lesson of your other two but the first one I did was at the New York observer the Guy Right and I it was probably two hours later and it was I didn't I didn't even know his recording and it was just like a transcript of me talking about how bad what I felt about the whole yeah and it's kind of I mean the way I think that's why content to do because of the neoconservative pace because I realized it was sort of forming but I to realize I was going to buy a book about public shaming and I wanted to start it with a big setpiece and I thought the but I wasn't like judgment in later stories like with justine eighteen psycho. I felt that I was defending her because I felt she'd been unfairly treated. She was the tweet woman yeah but with you and into in for the listeners who don't remember this choose the one who's a nobody from in like H._r.. Or something yeah certainty to it a fall and she's <hes> who's going to start arrogance that go into Africa hope. I don't get AIDS. Just kidding. I'm white which obviously is a terrible combination of words but it doesn't take long to figure out what you're saying yeah. She's she's doing like a bit like Randy. Newman bitter talk yeah making fun of herself yeah like we're I.. I mean it's a it's a sort of joke about her privilege exactly and yeah everyone that night was like you know we need to destroy this monster and particularly <hes> crazy example because by the time she landed in South Africa the whole the whole thing unfolded while she was asleep on a plane and the Hashtag was <hes> has justin landed yet. Somebody had figured out what flight she was linked to a flat tracker websites. Everybody could watch the fly a nobody ever miss thinking. This is hilarious. I think it that was the first great shaming so I think a lot of people thought you remember sort of like contemporaneous was happening. Oh Yeah Yeah I think it was my first thought as it as it. US have tweet. I popped up on my twitter. Feed was oh somebody's Fox and then but ten seconds later twenty seconds later. I was like this is all fucked up. 'cause it's clear it's clear that the joke she was trying to make him and she didn't tell the joke well but on contextual really it was troublesome kind of obvious what she was trying to do that and everyone's like as far as I could tell all bunch people wilfully misunderstanding it because they just enjoyed the drama. They enjoyed shopping ideology shelters even though she didn't want it I mean these people in the book who deserve it and people who don't mm Sako had intended that joke as people wanted it to be yeah. Oh do you think that I wouldn't look if she was a a kind of enthusiastic racist. Yeah I wouldn't but what if she was just somebody who was not enthused as racist sort sort of casually unaware of her racial bias he's or something is was the punishment commensurate with the crime if it because has the punishments this is the thing that's interesting to me is that they're so harsh. I mean even reading. Jane Mares piece on Al Franken. Al Franken is of course a big public figure. You know this is a eight women that accused thing. No one's accused him of sexual assault. Everyone's accused him to sort of being uncomfortable and awkward and of course John Maher starts the peace with him like shuffling around his apartment and his socks and the the the blinds are drawn and he's like despondent and depressed and they have we gone too far well I can. I can personally vouch for that because I see Al Franken Al Franken's. Kids live close to me so I've seen him two or three times. <hes> I've met him <hes>. I I interviewed him interviewed me for Air America when the minister came out at a have a slightly bad memory of that moment which I've never told the stove I'll Italian justice because it's sort of something Jane Mayer said because in the Jane Mayer Peace. They said he's got a reputation for something a bit. Broosk yes so I was other trade from D._C.. He to New York <hes> watching very drake. The Mike Leigh Film abortion is not the most miserable film you possibly it is. What should the film betrayed. Luckily more and more like leak despondent. I got off the China went straight to America and that's sort of joke. I said to Al Franken like I was sat down with. The Sun was just finishing. He was about to interview me and I said you know I just I said. I just watched out. Just watch drake on the train coming here and you know road and it's maybe it was a bad idea to that suppressing movie before doing. Just you know doing this comedic interview and he kind of well. What would you do that was. What would you do that and then finished him any. Why would you watch the film yeah. Why would I watch. Why would I watch it depressing film before during the comedic interview. I said it's like a little funny thing to essay and Al Franken I in a way I thought about it. Initially is that the Jane Mayer is not doing great job here because I mean he sounds like a complete astle and then I realized has it. Maybe that's the point is that he's not yet pervert. He's an asshole right and those are two different. Things yeah okay so that's how. I met him years later. I was listening to giant scientist. The Senate is his book Sanish really sad because if not if none of this happened he could be he could be in the race me absolutely and and he walked past me in on in Riverside Park. We gave each other big smiles and then a couple of weeks later the whole thing happened and then I've seen him about twice since then then on on both occasions. He just looks broken. Yeah and it's really sad I mean you know. This is why people keep shouting at him. You shouldn't have quit the Senate because because every time anybody sees Al Franken as far as I can tell you is to in my situation is that he looks like a broken man I i.. I'm not sure I always I always feel bad about. It's like I guess comics do their their routines every night and people here at twice but I always feel bad that maybe feel heard this before in the show. I don't remember upset but I was. About ten feet from Al Franken when he was told Oh yeah that's a picture of me walking and there's Al Franken getting up from the committee is described as PS and he he's he's walking up at the beginning of the committee meeting and he doesn't attend that's him walking out the end of his career. I was standing right there and Al Franken's there and the guy comes in whispers <unk> prison his ear and we were shooting a piece Senator Blumenthal. WHO's on the Judiciary Committee? We got there early Franken's the first person in there I mean others Al Franken Guy we're sitting there guy whispers in his ear and he gets up and walks out but twenty minutes later alert comes on the phone and says Al Franken's career is over you know does the punishment fit the crime. Was it <music>. I'm an because there's so much more has happened since he wrote this book <hes> and I think I remember you talking twitter. I'm doing an appendix or something or or a new forward or preference offers and what recent versions of this should I do yeah and I got like a million. I mean they're having every day yeah and and it's got a now. It's turned into what they call. Come so coach. Yes which I find the thing I find most offensive about that is I think I presume that. Most of the people who are who are canceling people were a young. I'm they don't understand how important workers they don't have both both in in terms of providing for for yourself in fear family but also your you know my my whole psychological. Wellbeing is is is linked to in my work. I mean it's your identity in Sofa bunch of fucking teenagers to decide that that person shouldn't have a lively on it is just chilling. It's chilling in it so you know you're doing this from ignorance you doing this because you haven't. You haven't lived long enough. I interviewed attributed Guy Pieces online the guy who the guy from the feminist t shirt company mail owner feminist t-shirt company WHO and this is the difference in time. This is the difference when you wrote the book and what happened now. He started this company and wrote a facebook post around the time he started at two thousand twelve thirteen or something like that and he he confessed to being a bit of a creep. Nothing like nothing violent or anything like that the worst I think was you know he put a woman's hand on his subpoenas while she was sleeping and she pulled away and that was according to him and this is why I'm starting this so you know now five years later six years later staff with a bunch of twenty one year olds twenty two year olds and he's he's very diligent about trans employees. Women of color is a very very serve you talked to him and he's like so steeped in the language and everything from that Universe and somebody found the post and in the past confessing to that was a badge of honor. It was like I have I have evolved as a person and then it's like Oh my you did this. We're going to destroy you and they went to him. They say you have to give us the company. It's our company now and he said no and then he fired them. So of course the headline is male owner of feminist t shirt company who confesses to sexual assault fires feminists and we're for him and when I talked to them and this was you know Henry Kissinger on the Iran Iraq war. It's too bad they both couldn't lose this. These people were ever it was awful in it and one of the women was saying I said. Can he ever come back do you. I think you should ever and she said no and I said never and she said no absolutely it should be the end of it. He's he's he's they call him a sexual assailant <hes> which is interesting language and so a little later it was a very interesting kind of a rough neighborhood in Philadelphia and I imagine a kid around here pulls a gun on somebody robs a store when you're seventeen seventeen eighteen nineteen goes to prison for five six ten years gets out and you know he's a young minority. Kids had a tough background the rest of it. Would you hire him yeah. Of course I would the guy who is the rubbing. Maybe he's a creep yeah. nope the guy who is potentially you know pull shot somebody but he pulled the gun. Whatever that's fine? It's very strange. Yeah that disciplines I noticed on twitter right from the beginning when you when we will watch making a merger sure we'll <hes> identified the contacted defense attorneys but give us the power of Justice and we purchased yeah absolutely and it's not how we see ourselves but it's what we they do now. Do you think that like so here's a question that you're not gonna like because I mean I would say that you're broadly broadly Amanda the left you've come from the left that sort of Guardian ad in fact if anything I failed lately since trump got elected I myself moving further and further to them. I think a lot of people I think that you know any I mean to get run screaming away from that stuff. I mean it's a lot of my friends. I mean I completely understand it to AH. This is something that is happening. I would say with more frequency on the left. I mean there are definitely conservative versions of this. There's conservative speech each policing cancelled culture in their own way sort of McCarthyism that grips these people they don't want certain people speak on campus et Cetera they want people canceled fired from on their jobs for wanting flags burned cabinet kind of thing but it seems to me that it's kind of on that side of the aisle more yeah more good. Why do you think that it maybe historically public shaming is is one of the few weapons of the of the dispossessed and I noticed that criticism when you've been publicly shamed came up people people said Johnson's attacked Social Johnson's attacked public shaming public shaming is one of the few weapons marginalized people have so Jon Ronson must be attacking marginalized people which is which was bullshit but I think in that is probably why you you get more shaving on the left than there on the rights and she do you think is a problem because I think it's tied Colloton culture and I think there's a huge backlash against this on the left? I mean today's story in New York magazine about this podcast <hes> red scare owns owns three young Bernie Sanders supporting women who are really anti and they just they're like the Santa's of the anti left basically and they're hardcore Sanders <hes> Social Social Democrats and they're like this stuff is crazy. Look bad you know the alienates the working class right yes. I've noticed that backlash clash too and I'm and I'm I'm happy for it. I've not one one way that all of this is really burning heart at the moment is particularly imprison with the Trans Schramm's versus what what the transpeople call turfs exclusion radical feminists and this is the thing that's happening both from different factions on the list. If it's it's insane I mean the Guy Graham from Father Ted known twenty-five yeah <hes> and who by the way prior to this stuff I when I size two hundred feet I was like this guy is I mean he. This should be you know in the daily worker or something I mean he's a lefty guy. Yeah hardcore left. He and I really liked him for a long time but he's become you know he's become like a leader of of a of I've got my words. Catholic be shows 'cause they just destroy trump you know if they perceived that you've hit them. They about ten times harder to the extent that they will say things like <hes>. Do you only see about this person the book us out onto the DMZ rope. If you know anything about this person I've seen it happened to a couple of particularly want John's thing yeah yeah yeah and one of them has been a guest on this show <hes> Jesse's in Gaul rights for a New York magazine Yeah he's become persona non grata because of this trend stuff and I don't think he's getting it from the side because he's more critical. If the transit yeah I mean he's I understand the debate and I don't want to because if I do understand that then I'll decide to wait in and just decide what I did and on on it was like a like a suicide you you yes well yeah because what happened was well. I I've got some so fire left Beauvais left-wing friends and they would say to me fucking Graham Leonard Her and they would sort of say. Why don't you say something you know you've no grow grow twenty five years Gregson or this to be the oldest harm to transpeople? Why didn't you say something and I was like Oh yeah so so I resist it for a couple of saying anything but I was kind of year yeah maybe a year then Graham went off to my friend Maeve and I realize I noticed that I did not speak out? I was not a little bit of we felt bad about. It and you're gonNA Niemoeller moment. Are you broadly you know. Do you disagree with him. Oh Yeah Yeah yeah yeah it feels it seems to me like watch Donna like the I'm not an encyclopedic knowledge of it but I can tell you know what they do is they'll take an isolated incident and go on and on and on about it so there was an occasion where either Trans Women of somebody acclaimed H._B._O.. Trans woman were said to a women's prison and rate to women in prison and you know they they use that all the time but as far as I can tell you yeah that's happened so it feels like that I mean you can argue on the merits pretty easily right. They can say this but it seems that the counter-arguments I don't even resemble arguments anymore they resemble again mobs and destroy this yeah crazy if you attack them because what they're saying saying. Is You know trump's. Women are women that men are if your supportive of the of these men than you'll men's rights activists who who wants women to be unsafe in their sex spaces that argument yeah I take on this this very strange thing as the woman who's <hes> feminist woman who is banned from twitter Canadian woman. WHO said you know if you have a penis man you can't be woman right and she was banned for that and it's both yeah it's I'm crazy on? Both sides say my sympathy because well so what happened was I was I was speaking toward May and just as I was drifting off to sleep. I saw somebody tweet tweet Graham Likewise Donaldson following you and this has happened a few times like trans people will tweet me. I notice you still follow Gremlin. Does that mean you're also so we're transphobic and I would like message them back to say. Look you know I've known grain flat twenty five years. I don't agree with anything he's saying but I'm not GonNa follow him just because some strange on the Internet tells me to do you respond to that stranger because you're afraid of them because it's a crank right if a crank said to you and John Your opinion about the Cavanaugh hearings hearings your opinion about free trade is bullshit. You would go about your day yes so I don't know why but a couple of times I did respond -tations. It's pretty yeah pretty strong but so so my my years zero and all of this was not using ground zero <hes> was drifting off to sleep separately tweets Graham was some folio so I quickly look. I'm drifting off to sleep. Please leave me out of this. I mean I fell asleep and then the next morning I woke up in Ingraham tweeted. Something like Jon. Ronson follows me because he thinks you all Aso's meaning you know fellow travelers so I just thought Oh man fuck you know and that's sort of been wanting to say something so so because he went off to Mermaids and people were saying to me. You know what you're a coward for not grams Graham stewing damage. He's putting people at risk ideas that the thing about this is a good question to ask you and your experience with this is it I always find data really disingenuous argument like I would. I would defend my friend as as I think you did and I sympathize with anyone who's attacked by a mob trolls but I think that the harm argument is where it starts breaking down because there isn't tangible examples I mean I think one of the eye has anyone been killed because all I hear all the time is deference death having a death-ray and there's like an egg account who says you should fucking die or something something and then they have police protection and it's like they're a martyr but I think it's being used oftentimes to limit speech and saying please don't when he stopped doing this because you're putting this person harm. It's like no I'm having a debate about something and the person might be wrong about it but I I'm. I'm not in <hes> because I <hes> you know I've I've had all of those thoughts and I agree with you like I haven't <hes> <hes> 'cause I've looked around a little bit too to see if if there's any links between violence against transpeople and on that particular faction of anti-trumps people and the SF <hes> I've found anything yeah I mean it's even when people say that I've gotten hate tweets oftentimes. I can't find them when I look for yeah so so no so I do I do agree with you but nonetheless I I said to Graham Latu something like you know Graham. You know it's not you know it's not right to say that I think that you critics assholes because I don't and I think you take isolated instances museum to smooth community anyway after I tweeted that the gates of Hell Opens Graham just over and over and over again and was like basically rallying people yeah. Even we've been friends for decades. I mean do you think in your book. Did you see examples of this. Is that do people we'll do that when they themselves have been victims of the mob and I victims unused that sort of broadly is that you know he has been attacked pretty ruthlessly people who who say you hate transpeople you WanNa see us dead and then in a response to that is not to be contrite or to explain is to is to have your own flying monkey plus grams been very open about being being politics a child and so I think you know I think it's probably some some of that. Twitter is just bad for everybody isn't so bad yeah. I should get off you know went down near the wake and it was fucking. It was amazing. It was Simpson's so everyone goes when she kind of. Did you anticipate this when you wrote that trending this direction yeah yeah yeah. It's why I wanted to write the book. I thought something in really you know this is really except it's only GonNa get worse but I didn't anticipate trump getting elected. I do think if you read say even came to his was published published in two thousand fifteen and I think I'm gonNA sound like I'm too much in love with myself but but I think <hes> imbedded you know in in the same way that them came out just before nine eleven my extremism and conspiracy theories and when you read in the light of nine eleven okay you could fail failed some things bubbling with shamed to I think he can sort of fail. You know what trump is is the twitter president and feel. I suppose what I'm getting at is I would notice just in soccer for instance Breitbart in for wars. You know <hes> <hes> they would. They were propagandizing Faca of the justin soccer. Incident Lewis started by Gawker yeah but I mean the right. Were like saying just that they're doing now <hes> with the squad. It's like here's a weakness. Let's fucking exploited this weakness. Here's the left acting in a way that we think is weak. Let's get them so the fact is bright by an Mm Fish Yeah. I mean it is I the more I talked to trump voters. It was always this idea of like. I can't believe people call me a racist they everything racist and they attack attack everybody in this way and there's these mobs come after us if we speak our mind yeah and they were voting for Bernie in the primary in voting for trump <hes> in the election and there are a lot of people that I talked to like that but you know I mean the thing is is that this am. I probably wrong about this. I'm just I'm taking a total leap here. Is this the book that Changed Your Life More than any other. Actually the cheese and any other was minister. Go because George Clooney made oh that's right yeah Geico you get a lot of money. Full wasn't like an amazing but it was enough to move. You're playing fucking keyboards and mentioned you know in Russia ashore. Everything's a windfall lock exactly but I mean the one that change in the sense that like what are we ought to be honest so you've been published. I'm definitely maybe like this kind of cultural fake but straight away I felt uncomfortable and resistant and cut I retreated as quickly as possible but people come to right and that's when when you said Al Franken I immediately asked. Has He come to as he talked. He has this half and you know I became friends. We're we're talking this before. I became friends with Amanda Knox through you you brought her to dinner that has contacted you yeah because she had been shamed in in Italy you become I'm good friends with Monica Lewinsky. Who is God? I mean that's the knee Plus Ultra like ninety shaming and who you quite enjoys a person yeah life and so this I mean you become this person like so. I know you have to go in a sec so let me just go to this. I said to somebody who who had shaming thing they wanNA talk about. You should talk to Jon Ronson and I don't know if it was me that did this but it resulted in in some way again. It's not because me and my maybe have this idea zone and you reached out to a guy named Kevin Moore. Yes and Kevin Moore is a porn producer whose wife August aims James committed suicide in you fantastic <hes> audible <hes> you know it's like I guess it's a podcast. It's like well now. You can get it online regular popcorn so it's the only time unfortunately it's your west birthday happy birthday Mrs Johnson so I can't get into this but it was the only time I actually disagree with a couple of things with listening to it. I was like John. I'm GONNA send you an email about this and i. I didn't actually do it but it's it's a terrific. I recommend take time to say the same age okay I I loved it and I I recommend everybody but you've done to talk about the porn world and how how the fuck did you get. There is is it because you're a PERV and you're like I want to know more about this. No IT's British people end up there. Martin Amos's ends up you end up the what I think it was actually there's a connection for me connection between Justine Sacco the AIDS tweet woman. I'm the porn community. I'm the connection is there I think on both occasions the the bullied at its legitimized bullying. You defend them pretty pretty strenuously yeah. That's what it it's like. I Li- I like finding for one of a better phrase like my marginalized pillow or people pushed out of society who other people haven't the thought of <hes> just in soccer is one of those people are the people haven't thought of like she was. She was the victim of you know of of bullying but nobody saw her as a bullet person first and they sort of as an aggressor. I'm with the Porn Community people what I noticed that people just don't want to think about them because if they think about them and think about their lives they're not going to be able to Surkov to them. So there's this huge amount of distance I I met this woman. This young woman called Dacoota who is a church school in New Orleans and she was telling me about Oh her phone her habit and I said did you ever learn their names and she said No. I never learned their names. It's like when you kill a deer you don't name it because then you can't eat it and I am not ready stayed with me and I think that line is why I wanted to make her mixing stories about porn because I wanted to name I mean there's there's something of a you you kind of mystery in the in the Aug teams the yeah which I you know I won't reveal and people should listen to it and I also have feelings about the last days of August to be honest so they might be the same feelings. I have one Jimmy Johns okay I okay. I got mad at you for one thing. I what's going on the subway platform waiting for the train. I don't know why I remember this and you talked about Kevin and who's the husband of August committed suicide. <hes> Kevin Even said that it was because of bullying <hes> and there have been theories out there <hes> the he was involved yeah and you talked about that for a little you bet and I didn't think he should have talked about it because there is no evidence whatsoever and I didn't think it was widespread enough out on the Internet itself <hes> to give it any because I thought I talked to someone who is listening my my friend billy as a producer who absolutely loves you and she was listening to it and she was like do you think Kevin is the last thing I wanted to narrative insect. I know that that wasn't your intention because it didn't pop up elsewhere in the thing but when I heard that I was I don't know I don't know about them. Yeah you know I've I. I also feel uneasy about it. <hes> I think the reason why we put that in in the end was this because for several months of last year that that was consuming us like you know because it where we're consuming us like is Kevin telling us the truth if he's not why not and we were consumed by an and so the industry parts of the industry honestly you know the what the other parts what's the last days of August when we find out other things that happen to August that Kevin wasn't involved with like this really bad shoot that she didn't Las Vegas and her relationship internship with their family which was very problematic and so on. I you know I feel happy with <hes> so yeah so you know I've agonized about that. Did you hear have you heard from him saying Yeah Tote to a couple of times since the show was angry with you know <hes> no no he wasn't now. I was wondering if you'd be didn't sound good chat and so don't put words in his mouth but <hes> I'll tell you why you should listen to. This book is beyond the fact that it's that is really really brilliant. Work is the only time I have ever heard Johnson. Get angry and hang up on someone. WHO's calling it a delighted? I'll just I'll leave that dangling. They could get through to that point of the 'cause. It's terrific. I mean when you let you after this but at the end of that the butterfly effect which was which was different it was kind of the economics and the technology aspects of porn and how it's changed everything this one was more about which I think is definitely I mean of course the people are huge. The characters are huge in butterflies like to but there's I mean this is like a painful one to listen to because these people are so fucked up so many of them yeah in one is your relationship with that community like now and you know it's good. Thank God I could I was he's pretty much. Everyone feels that even as as you know dark and terrible is the last days of August is it's still it's still true in fact his August one into this industry. She was let down by a lot of pain or nine in the end. It'll go got too much when she took alive so I think I think the industry in general and said the strikes the butterfly effect more because it's such a positive story about the industry but I think in defending them against people that are stealing money from them. Yeah yeah absolutely protect grows. If there are villains in the butterfly fat villains is a big word. You know it's the Tech Bros.. Not The problem people so I love the Butterfly Fatai turn on on its head what people normally consider reputable in disreputable pro although these nice people really think of tech pros is that people know the things you say you say a dark and awful yeah is that because the industry three is awful because you seem to have a positive yet have in some sense much more so than most people I want. You know what I want to feel really positive though industry because I because my my sort of rose tinted view is it's a community of outsiders who can kind of make it in society you know supporting each other and and if they've got troubles it's because of things that happen to them outside of the industry. I've got this romantic view of the industry but I suppose as the months it's progress. I started to think well maybe it is a pity you know your mind is changed a little bit a little bit. I suppose it's it's it's children. I mean it's it's it's full of children. I mean the problem with the industry and I think Kevin would be the first to admit this too is that it's basically this is going to sound like a some people can allow roller is what I'm about to say I think if you had to sum up kind of what psychologically wrong with the industry mystery it's like and let me caveat this by saying a lot of people go into the industry and it's fine like sex positive people who've grown up with Paul and herb that feel no shame about sex about having sex on camera they go into the industry. Nothing bad happens. They represented by Mark Doc speak Llama. WHO's like the super agent? Everybody says it's a lovely guy. I've never heard anything bad about him. And then they leave their own accord and nothing bad happens those stories ready a to exist important and I think it's really important to who go on to mainstream success to yeah Sasha Grey and I think it's so important to say that because otherwise you're just tarring the whole industry with audiology you know which which I hate I hate doing that but I think you've got other people. Who've had some you know issues choose growing up some you know abuse they enter the industry as a kind of <hes> you know a place to try and make their way in the world? Maybe some of them are you know important because they're somehow dealing with some issues apt to them when they were younger they see did they find these older men <hes> on the kind of latch onto them because they they need to sort of responsible figuring their lives but I'm these automated commence overseen to be responsible and sensible but because he's a manager onto the porn industry. They'll fucking kids themselves. Why do you want to spend your life in porn with dating a a bunch of eighteen point says if you didn't if you want yourself emotionally stunted so you've got these kids were looking for responsible older people but the people themselves and and and so nobody's those looking is that everybody wants it to be a community where everybody's looking after each other and being supportive but there isn't enough emotional snow maturity sometimes to make that a reality and I think I think that supposedly industry so listen to those two podcasts butterfly effect and then the last days is an August you got you got something? Even ashamed is going to be on BBC radio four yeah. They've just put it out like a bridge A._B._C.. Sounds thing I've gone. I've sort of come to ground bare and I'm not really. I'm figuring out next what I'm writing. I'm writing the show of sounded N._D._A.. So I can't talk about it. I just telling a television show no live show. It's a live show yeah and are you. Are you onstage and no okay well. I still do that because I needed the tour irving winds and in fact I was talking on stage about my uneasy feelings about making the last days of August which which you too early I so I've been thinking so I've sort of my my stage. Show is is kind of grappling with that stuff so now you're down writing. Yeah I pretty much got that garlic two or three London nothing eminence coming out and probably won't be a year so but that's we can't expect a book or anything so I really want to. I love to start writing a book but you have some finger mind sewed so cloudy. I always think like people Karai is like I can't write another book because I've got to the end of my thought. Process process of saving publicly shamed fell at the end of authority says this is always a challenge to kind of knew him because you've put everything you've got into the last one well I went. Uh I gotta go back and look at the book I remember reading it because I think Adam Davidson gave me a galley of it and I thought and and I don't think I had one objection I think until then I tell you something what was it I can't remember I think it was this the kind of juxtaposition of me and Joan as me like Oh yeah sloppy but forgotten amazing neighborhood yeah it was okay. It was good then but uh be I would have been better if I lived in Crown Heights or something yeah yeah some shootings and there's no that I think that was my my via over the tough objects at when you see yourself betrayed and I am kind of a I'm coming across as kind of you know shitty like disheveled journalists. He's never going to really make it and I also this was a very notable thing about back. Then which was there you know your your talent level was was above your success level so so you were combated by that but I actually I'd say rightly so it's like you should have been doing better and the fact that he had them better ever since and you've achieved your this shows the you had a right to be sort of enraged. Do you know that's the first time anyone on this show has ever said anything nice about me so I appreciate that and I appreciate vitiated comes from somebody. I respect so much so Jon. Thank you for joining us. I know you have to run and we won't anticipate anything now. Sweater just even much that all right don't fucking Auntie transpeople enough to leave yeah yeah. It's always gonNA be somebody because I remember after the book came out your shamed for something. He was in a galley copy so it's always it's always something uncorrected one. It has happened to you a few times

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Questions About Joe Biden

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Questions About Joe Biden

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I think that's plenty. Before we start that conversation. We are excited because two night we are going to be at south church in Portsmouth, New Hampshire with river run bookstores to talk with Senator Maggie Hassen and lots of other political topics. So we hope to see many many Evie there. We've been on the road all week. We're going to be on the road for the next almost three weeks together. So it's going to be a an interesting, April and our travels give us opportunities to vet some topics in advance. Which is why I say we really only have room to talk about Joe Biden today, we had a very spirited discussion in the car yesterday about this. And I'm excited to share our thoughts with all of you excited question. Mark was started. Because not surprisingly I very much connected to Rebecca trace tres, Joe Biden is not the answer editorial. I always connect with Rebecca tracers food soils and her books, I feel like she's in my head, particularly I have connected with the way. She started speaking, very openly about the fact that we have sort of minority rule in this country, and like it's just a very forceful straightforward way in which she talks about the white guys are minority. They have the power, this is not acceptable. And she very much called out Joe Biden as being a participant in that system, particularly in the seventies and eighties and into the nineties when women in particular were stripped of rights based in part on assistant that Joe Biden very much participated an decisions Joe Biden may particularly with regards to the need a hill case and choosing not to have the other women testify Clarence Thomas gone the supreme court, and it was part of a conservative majority that also obviously made a lot of decisions that affected everyday Americans. So I really I was all in. I was ready. You not so much. No. I think a whole lot of distinct questions are getting bundled in the conversation about Joe Biden, and I would like to unbundle those questions. Nhs. There's I to me the question of whether Joe Biden would be a better president than Donald Trump. I think the answer to that is. Yes. And I think we should put that aside is Joe Biden a better option than Donald Trump. Yes is Joe Biden a better option than all the other hundred fifty people running for the democratic nomination. I think the answer is probably not should he run? That's a different question. The conversation being had I don't wanna say allegations. Because that's kind of silly. We've watched Joe Biden publicly interact with women and men in the way that is being discussed right now. So this isn't to me me too conversation as much as a what do his actions mean conversation? And I think the next question is are those actions disqualifying from seeking the democratic party's nomination. And I think the answer to that is clearly not. But I imagine I'm not gonna hear a unanimous agreement about that, which is fine. But like do you see what I'm saying? I just don't like pushing all this together. Because I think what comes across is God, you can't take a breath in this country without people being ready to take you down for it. And that is very destructive to the conversation about gender and power that we're trying to have. So to the issue of whether it's disqualifying. I realized after we talked about it, my standard sort of the level at which I decide if something is disqualifying to be the democratic nominee for president right now in two thousand nineteen is very very low. It's very low. It's not an objective standard. I would apply in every scenario. But for right now because we have so many amazing candidates. The smallest thing. I'm like fine. Let's go. Let's move on. We have like twenty five people in some of them are amazing. Many many of them are amazing. And so that's sort of how I felt with Amy klobuchar. Okay. No, that's not. We're no. We're going to move on now because we have twenty five people. We don't have to have people limping into the nomination because they've been beat Napper. They have these issues. We have enough big enough field. A very talented amazing field that we don't have to have a very high like we don't have to let people by basically, you know, we don't have to let it slide or we don't have to look the other way in. I think the reason that it it's not just that my my sort of my my base level's pretty low, but also with regards to any gendered issue because for better or for worse. Hillary Clinton could not attack Donald Trump on his issues with women because of her husband's history. Now is Joe Biden Bill Clinton. Of course, he isn't. He doesn't have that level of issues in any in anybody's interpretation. But anything anything at all is going to be a problem any sort of anything Donald Trump can hang his head on and say, well, how you going to how? Arguing accused me of doing that thing. How are you going to use me and making women uncomfortable or sexually assaulting women when you clearly have your own issues like I want like I want is close to perfect as we can get with regards to that which is hard which would be a woman. Was ever Hillary wasn't. I mean, there you go and you have the clo- atrocious. I mean, there is a way to go after anybody, right? Donald Trump will find a way with whomever the candidate is. And I think sending a message that you have to be a perfect team in being is not a good one. Just don't as we want to people to come into public office. And I think there is a big difference between the way Joe Biden has interacted with people, and what Donald Trump has done what any number of people who could be accused of having a quote woman problem as as done, and that is where I think this conversation gets really hard and really important. I know everybody's making fun of the video Joe Biden made. And I would never advised him to do it that way. Okay. I think it wasn't great. But I do think there is room to have a conversation about the fact that different. Women would react differently and have reacted differently and are publicly reacting differently now to the same conduct from Joe Biden women who did not give explicit in the moment. Enthusiastic consent to having his hands on them have said, I really appreciated him putting his hands on me. And other women have said, I really did not appreciate that. All of those things are totally different than every other metoo conversation that we've had and I just think sticking it under that umbrella is detrimental. I also think it's important to talk about the fact that you do need to be aware of all of the dynamics in any situation when physical touches involved. That's hard, it sucks. It's awkward. I think that's a period that we have to go through though. So that people like Joe Biden who I think are not always aware of the power that they're walking around with don't find themselves in these circumstances where a woman has been made to feel really uncomfortable. Oil even though he was acting with the opposite of that intention. I think that the reality of this story in wide has legs is less having to do with the sort of metoo conversation or even necessarily a holy gender conversation. What this says, and what he sort of played into at that video. Is that Joe Biden is the product of another time. He's a relic. That's the narrative this issue feeds when he says in that video times of change social norms have changed right? You're right. Joe Biden, lots of things have changed, and you are not the best person to lead us into that changed environment because you have led and your life experiences predominantly exist in another time in another century, literally. I mean, we all know, it's different. I don't think anybody feels like Joe Biden is sexually assaulting people or that. It's a less moon Vizor Harvey Weinstein situation, the reason that it's it's growing, and that is taking off it is because it is reflective of the fact that Joe Biden represents another time when we do not live in anymore when he is not best qualified and not qualified is not the right word because he clearly has qualifications. But at a certain point, we have to acknowledge that the world is different and the qualifications. You gained were in a different world a different world with different rules. Not just about when you touch women on stage. But about a lot of things what I think we have to be careful about and I feel like so much a classic conservative right now being like, here's what we have to be careful. But what I think we have to be careful about is that wild times have changed in terms of our expectations about how much where entitled to say. Here's how you are allowed to interact with my body is that we don't wanna lose the ability to physically interact with one another. If I look at the state of our society right now, I think we need more touch, not less. I think a lot of what has been said in defensive Joe Biden is a hundred percent true that he connects with people in a way that is important that we need more of. And I don't want to scare people away from that kind of connection. I think what we have to learn is how do I know that I have permission to make that kind of connection. How do I know that I have really considered how my actions will be received. It's just unfortunate to me that we're having this conversation around Joe Biden because he might be running for president. Because if we were having it divorced from that context, I think it could be so much more helpful in interesting and less threatening to people. That's what it is right now. Right. It looks like me too is a weapon to throw out against your opponents. And and I hate that that breaks my heart for all of the really good work that has been done around me too. I mean, I think that there were people saying this. Stuff about Joe Biden before he was running for president. There are photo galleries and aditorial written up about like why does he do this? It's so weird somebody tell him to stop. And I don't disagree that there is room for warmth in politics. But he's not eskimo kissing men. You know what I mean? Like what's being said about Joe Biden was being said about Joe Biden before that he has this weird physical interaction with people. But that also that he's very warm, and then he connects with people that Anita hill is an issue that he has still not apologised for and he's still not taking responsibility for so that was definitely being said before he was running for president. But also at the same time like what's the answer when somebody decides to run for president that's going to increase the scrutiny on them. I don't know the the alternative to sane. We don't wanna pull this up for you. And use it as a weapon just because you ran for president. Yeah. But your pass choices aren't important because you're running for president. So I don't know. How would how would we bring this up in a more fair way? I don't know the answer to that either. It's really hard. I don't know the answer to that. I don't know a more fair way for it to come up. I think the struggle, and I fully agree with you about Anita hill, and I feel that even more acutely now because of Christine blazey Ford, right? And I do think there is a scarring effect of those two confirmation hearings that will not be lost in our generation. I think that that will forever be with me. And so I think that is totally legitimate fodder. And that his answers to that matter would I think we all need to work on is creating a model where forgiveness is available. If he truly said, I'm sorry is forgiveness available. We don't have a lot of good models of that right now. You know, Lou one of our listeners on Twitter pointed out, the only person who's really apologizes. Al Franken Al Franken is the only person who's really lost something. So what do we do about that? I mean, I think that you it's hard to believe that somebody is sorry, if they're not going to stop seeking the power authority that brought up this discussion in the first place like I'm really gonna try harder. And I really believe that I misunderstood and I'm going. Well, that's great. I don't think it's impossible to stay in apologize and be sincere. I guess I mean, I wish somebody could follow. I wish north amid follow the example set out in our interview with David camps. But I don't see anybody doing that. I don't see anybody actually sacrificing anything because you know. It's like, I tell my kids. Sorry means I'm sorry. I did it and I'm going to try not to do it again. And then you have to show me. You're not gonna do it again with something. And I'm not saying that one hundred percent of the time has to be resign or you stop, you know, injure campaign. But until an unless somebody gives me another example, I don't know what else will it too. I think it depends on the. The job too, right? There should be a higher standard for running for president than for being a mayor or for being a vice president of sales or whatever. Right. It depends on the job. I think forgiveness is more available at lower level positions. And I have evolved in my thinking about that. But what's been on my mind as we've had this conversation? That's helped me evolve. In my thinking about the different kinds of positions you and I were having a conversation after the fact, but in our first days of podcasting about Mitt Romney and his binders full of women comments. And you said at the time that you didn't disagree about what his intentions were that they probably were good intentions, but you didn't want a president who had to be coached who around the way he talks about gender. You don't want somebody who needs help on that issue. You want someone who's there? And I think that's a good guideline for how you evaluate Joe Biden's candidacy in TIMMY. It's less is Joe by disqualified. Which I don't even know what that means in the democratic society that has Donald Trump is the president. Well. To to the point that we talked about yesterday who does the disqualification. You don't really have parties that I may drawing. Thanks. It does drew things it dies, which is super unhelpful, and is part of what flushes all of these discussions down the toilet really quickly. But you don't have parties that are strong enough for a party chair to say to someone you know, what Mr. Biden, thank you for your service. But we don't need you in this race. We'd like who's going to have that discussion. Nobody there's nobody to say. Guess what Tim Ryan the table is full? Nobody else needs to run for president. There's nobody to say that so disqualification isn't really even thing. But to me it's different from saying Joe, Biden should not run for president because of this of this conduct which I think is absurd versus as I make my decision about who I'm going to support. This is data to me. And I just don't want a president who is working on this issue. I want somebody who's there. And he's had a different set of life experiences. That helps them be there right now. I think comma Harris is a really great example of somebody who balances being very thorough -tated, very aware of people's boundaries and also super warm, if you watch video of her interacting with people on the trail, she touches people she connects with people, you can see it. You can see how captivated they are by her much like people with Joe Biden. But I think because she has a different set of life experiences. She doesn't have to be coached on how to do that. And I don't want somebody that has to be coached on that. And I don't want somebody who lived their entire lives pretty much before the internet. I've already said this I will not be voting for baby boomers in the primary not because of ageism. But because I'm ready for a different perspective at the table. And that doesn't just have to mean identity based on race or gender identity has a lot of meaning to it. And some of that is your interaction with the new economy your vision of the world. Your way, you interact with other people online offline understanding cell phones. I mean like all that that's really important to me. I feel like we are on the cusp of or probably already in a huge transition in our economy in in our culture in our country, and I want somebody who's ready to move forward in that transition without being stuck in a perspective. That's on the on the back into veterans ishin. That's just that's really important to me. It doesn't have to be important to everybody. But when I read tracers article, she just articulated why I'm particularly angry about Joe Biden. Look, I still I still really love Joe Biden, I'll get back there. I'm just a little angry right now. I loved all the Biden Obama memes thought they were delightful. I find him to be a very warm individual. I know that he has suffered a massive amount of personal tragedy in his life. And the way that he's overcome. It is amazing. But. I feel like there is this. Underlying narrative that I'm being told as democratic voter that this entire field full of women in people of color. I feel like I'm being told. They're gonna be beat just like Hillary. We can't risk that y'all. Just keep Janas keep waiting just keep waiting, and I don't wanna wait anymore. And I don't want to be told like I'm really ready to risk like, I'm ready to risk it this idea that white guys the only one that can save us from Trump really makes me angry in feel like that's what I'm being told with Joe Biden. And that's what you know sort of articulating his experience in not just that. It's not just that. He's a white guy says he's a white guy that participated in parts in our history in parts of our legislative history that are really important and really had impact and not the kind of impact we wanted. And so being asked to overlook that one more time because no really this time it matters. And he has the right experience. And it just it's infuriating. It's inferior. When somebody says he'll his foreign policy experience in Hillary Clinton. Didn't I'm just what am I supposed to take away from that? What am I supposed to take away from the fact that Hillary Clinton was? Secretary state lost. And Joe Biden has all this foreign policy experience. And that's why we should pick him. What are you trying to say to me because it pisses me off it really does. Because what I hear is. I don't think what you're trying to say. Or maybe it is maybe I'm right to be pissed off. I don't know. But it's just hard to let it go. I would coming around to more and more that we are all mean particular are really still carrying the scars from two thousand sixteen as we go into this nomination process in such a wide field of candidates. It's just hard. It's breaking it all back up again. This this entire primary needs a trigger. Warning. We'll take a quick break. I have reaction to that. But we'll take a quick break and get back to it. 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And appreciate how acutely you feel that sense of. I'm tired of waiting for the exact right woman or the exact right person of color or the exact right LGBT person to take office. And I understand that. And I agree with it. I feel it less acutely than you do. And I think that's part of why I always feel some distance between myself and Rebecca tracers writing because I just don't bring that level of emotion to it. And I also have spent so much of my time working with people who are in the process of evolving. I know more Joe Biden's in my life than Rebecca trace tres. And I think we all have different work to do. And I think my work is to think about the incremental progress that we can make within a system instead of being a person who is a system disruptor. And that's where I think the way we talk about this matters a lot because everything that you said about electing a baby boomer president, I think is important and valuable. And that's good information that you bring to your process as a voter that is different from cancel all the baby boomers, we don't ever want to hear from another person of that age in public or private life ever. Again, we talked about this with Brad Kavanagh to saying I don't think this person should be on the supreme court in light of these allegations is different from. I don't think this person deserves to exist anymore. And I know that people are tired of the fragility of white men. So again, the baby boomer years listening to things like this. But I feel like part of my work is to lean into that fragility and respected and work with it. And to end to be reassuring to say, that's not what anybody means. So if you are listening to Lucy Florez and the six other women, I think have talked about moments when Joe Biden has made them uncomfortable. And you are hearing therefore he is. Terrible human being and nothing. He's done in his life matters. I want to reassure you that that's not at all where I think most women are. I think the question is more. Do I wanna have to educate the president of the United States on people's personal space or not? And I think the answer for most women is at this moment in history. No, I don't I wanna move past that that was the extra spirited part of our discussion in the car is whether you're an outside the system or an inside the system person. And if I'm being honest, I fluctuate win Rebecca trice ter- when Tana hoc- coats when other sort of public, intellectual say people particular groups do not give up their power willingly. They have not throughout human history, and they're not going to start. Now, I feel like a plug on a cord on a string and my heart. Like, it just it feels true to me in every cell of my body. And I think for better or for. For worse. You don't get to be an outside or you're not really an outside the system person because you knowledge that there's in the system work. You know, what I mean like, I think like by definition, you feel like that's the only way to create change. And I think we just have to let those people be who they are. And I don't think you're saying to not right. But they are definitely you're gonna feel from them that your work within the system doesn't work in is not valid for better or for worse that is the reality because they believe that. And I think for better or for worse real change has come from the United States because there was a conversation between in the system outside the system people in the outside of the system said, no, no more. I'm not trying within the system anymore. I'm doing something different. And so I'm proud of that I think those are good parts of our history. And I also acknowledge that the inside the system people either had to be pressured or did had sincere changes of hearts like that. I mean, we're not all going to be. Be one of the other. And that sort of what the show is always about is that are the table is big in there in a country with three hundred million people trying to do real multicultural democracy for probably the first time in human history. Nyc is going to be hard, right? It's gonna be some people sitting at the table saying your way, I you're at the table because I have no other choice. But you're my doesn't work, and we just all have to not like just live with that. I don't know any other way. Like, I don't know that like just did not get defensive to understand like there are going to be people because of their own life experiences who wanna cancel Jovi. They're pissed off. I'm pissed off. I don't want to cancel Joe Biden. But I'm pissed off in like, I guess we just have to leave space for that. It's just hard not to when I hear what you're saying. Don't even disagree with it. But it's just hard because the devil on my shoulder is screaming. I don't want the conversation. Be about them in their comfort level anymore. And like I said like they're not going anywhere. I know the baby boomers aren't gonna just all leave an I love so many baby boomers Oprah is a baby, boomer. What more do you need to hear from me? Like, so I get it. But it's just we're failing big feelings right now. So guess what? I'm trying to say. Yeah, I'm not feeling big feelings as much as I'm looking at all these big feelings thinking what can be made good from this. I think what happens in the democratic primary in the next year and a half matters more significantly to our country than perhaps it has at other moments in history, not all the other moments. But but definitely at some other moments in history. It certainly matters more to me because I do not find the president to be a person who has viable option for my vote in two thousand twenty. So I care a lot about the conversation in the democratic primary, and I see some things that make me feel really Optima. Mystic about that conversation. Even though I am very far away from where the progressive wing of the Democratic Party is in terms of policy proposals. They want from candidates. I'm very very far from that. I love how supportive many of these candidates have been at each other. I love how Kirsten gillibrand is constantly on Twitter saying look at my friend, Cory Booker. Hurry. I loved it when Amy klobuchar complimented Kamala Harris publicly for Camara's proposal on increasing teacher pay. There are some dynamics within that field that could change the way we do elections in a really positive way. However, you feel about the policy proposals. That are circulating the waves. People are treating each other matters a lot, and I don't wanna see the degradation of that because of Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden, and that's where I feel the pool right now. Right. As you watch the conversation, especially on social media, which I should say is not represented. Of all of America. But it feels like it, I sometimes, and it is more influential than I wish it were. And I feel the pull away from that warm. Embrace of looking all of us with good ideas may the best person win when Bernie and Joe Biden come into the picture Beth. I'm also feeling very big feelings about Kathy Griffin. No one saw that curtain coming visit heart turn. So I invite you to listen along with me survey. I'd started a podcast Recode with Swisher she interviewed Kathy Griffin. This was a recommendation of a listener, a thank you. It was a very good one. It was amazing. Did you have any concept of what she went through based on the Donald Trump decapitation photo? I think I had a concept of what she went through in terms of sort of social media outrage public life. I did not understand at all how he used the full power of the presidency to impact her life in way, so significant that she can't get through an airport now without being detained. Yeah. I really want everyone to listen to this. But let me just give you the quick rundown. In case, you don't have time because I want the story to get out there in we have a platform, and I'm gonna use it because I think is so important. She was investigated by the secret service. She was charged by the department of Justice. With conspiracy to harm the president or whatever it's like a lifetime sentence. They wanted to like perp walk car and a jumpsuit shouldn't do a interrogation at her attorney's office. They put her on the do not fly list. She got put on the INTERPOL list. So every time she travels across the globe. They basically detain her for several hours and take her passport because of this photo because that they claim she was in ISIS like this is insane. No one no one who looked at that photo thought Kathy Griffin was a physical threat to Donald Trump. That's outrageous. And the fact that she was basically harassed. I mean, she's made a steal. I have so much respect for her. And hardy did you know, she's like, I'm a fifty eight year old woman in a field in an industry that's been trying to put me out to pasture for years, and I refused ago, and she talks about how she was such a good target because she doesn't have like, she's not Johnny Depp. Who has the power of the pirates of the Caribbean and all the PR people to help him get out of sit stuffy. Says about Trump, but none of them should be in anything to begin with. Because I say something about Trump's celebrity sound off about politics is what they do. And I just I was blown away by what she's gone through and her sort of courage and talking about it, and sort of not regretting what she did. And saying like he needs to be called the man, I wanna do my small part of it. I just was really really impressed by her. I think there are a lot of us who have historically voted Republican who here hyperbole and hysterics when words like fascist and Thawra -tarian are used about the president. And I think that examples like this show that we are trending in a really dangerous direction when the secret service and the FBI in the no fly list are brought to a situation of a comedian clearly operating within the parameters of the first amendment. We have a real problem. And we have a problem that is very personalized in nature. And we have a problem that is not getting enough attention. And in fact, is being pretty actively suppressed a lot of networks could make money off of telling Kathy Griffin story, which she has put together in a documentary, and they won't take it because there are risks to them they need this government's cooperation. And when now I understand that that kind of sentiment has been going on a long time. There are lots of people who think about what is going to do to me in front of the FTC. What is this going to do to me in front of congress? But I do think this takes it to a new level and a level that we only to be concerned about we are all Kathy Griffin in this way. Right. When our rights are cast aside, simply because we've offended someone and we are punished through these really extra judicial processes. What's her remedy near the things that have happened to her? She doesn't have one that should worry all of us, regardless of how you feel about any other political issue. Well, I will say she did she says that she loves the FBI that they would like, you know, they call her lawyer who was not a big threat than they call her. If it was a bigger threat, but simply they would just come to her house and not even knock because the threat was so imminent. They would just they call it a no knock, and they would just come in. And be like, you're endanger what the heck? I just. I into can just be clear that that's not from the administration. That's from right. Arlene. Her threatening her cue in on types were brought up in this interviewing that that. Those are private citizens reacting so forcefully to this. And I do and make sure we're careful about that distinction. I love the metaphor. She is she calls it the wood Chipper. So like once that he says, you're an enemy of mine, then you know, the the theaters where she was performing would get robo-call like troll robocalls, or she would get, you know, her Twitter feed is filled with Botts, and it's just sort of gets spread out to everywhere in multiplies in this really really threatening harmful scary way, one of my favorite things. I wanted to bring up when you said she was shopping around to the networks, and she talks about how like, yeah, they're more women in Hollywood, but all the sectors sex, forty slip, all the check signers are old dinosaurs. They're just they're old white guys who still have the final say. And somebody says, well, why didn't you why don't you crowd fund distributing this? And she said I have enough money. I don't need any more money. That's not what this is about. Which I thought was such a powerful statement. So we will put the link to the full interview in the show notes highly highly recommended, I think it's so important. She also said, and I think this is particularly radical in America in twenty nineteen when she said I have enough money. She said, I don't want hard work in people who don't have the money that I have contributing to get my documentary, and that is spirit that I wish we could see more of thought that was a beautiful thing. And when she talked about the check signers, I think that's relevant to the Joe Biden conversation as well. It is not again, there is no place for white men who have ascended to the highest levels of power. It is that there is a price to them staying in those highest levels of power exclusively and without a definite in date. And there is a perpetuation of that. Because they are they are it is harder for other people to get there. We are making progress. I don't want to act like we're not. But it's not enough progress fast enough for those of us who occasionally experienced that sense of bees that we talked about during the Cavanaugh hearing, just I'm I'm angry in a way that I feel is going to start to eject from my body, and we have to work with that. And I think I'm an in the system person squarely. And so I just keep thinking about how we work the system. But I do appreciate people who are pushing it harder than I would push it on my own. And I think just holding that tension between us is the best. We can do will. Thank you. As always for joining us as we hold the tension between us we hope to see many of you in New Hampshire tonight. There's information about that on our Facebook page as well as our event next Friday in Florida, go check it out and until then keep a new job. Dylan Garvan produces pantsuit politics every week. 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A Conversation with Andy Slavitt

The Al Franken Podcast

54:02 min | 1 year ago

A Conversation with Andy Slavitt

"Lord buddy welcome to the the al franken podcast. We have <hes> andy slab of it again. When i return gas and he's going to be talking about the democratic candidates <hes> healthcare plans and really how both and i think that we should do a little bit more to emphasize <hes> trump's horrible record on in healthcare. We'll get to that in a moment. <hes> we recorded this on on sunday before the <hes> the shootings in n._l. El paso and dayton and <hes> we've all seen a lot of these. I was in the senate after sandy hook and i remember those votes going down. We did not i. I couldn't believe lebron. I thought twenty five year old kids how and i just i remember coming to the floor. I had signed onto the assault weapons ban right away and ran in the ted cruz aw and cruz said to me anybody for the assault weapons. Ban is engaged in sophistry. Now sophistry is carmen s._a._t. Word i guess but it's also a lawyer word and it means like a phony kind of debate so i guess it's a debate. The it's an argument that's meant to mislead people dishonest argument so i said <hes> how am i engaged in sophistry office three and he said well the clinton administration's own justice department put out a report in one thousand nine hundred six two two years after the assault weapons ban of ninety four was passed and said it didn't work and i said no it didn't oh actually it said it reduced murders with assault weapons by about six percent <music> but there wasn't enough data to say that that was significant so they said they didn't say it didn't work. They said they can't can't conclude from this lesson to your study that it does work instead. You just read the report art and i said well i have but i i'll do it again. So i go back to my office subway back to my office. First saffir i find is <hes> josh riley my judiciary <hes> staffer. He went to harvard law said to him. Ted cruz just said that that anybody's for the assault weapons ban is engaged in sophistry. Josh says what sophistry i tell them and then he goes what no what why do you say that <hes> and then i said well he said clinton's own justice department blah blah and he goes no no the in the report and any repeats exactly what i said so i said well. I'll tell you what just go to the report. Get the language language put in a memo. I'll carry carry it with me and next time i see cruz. I'll i'll show it to go okay so josh does a day or two later. I'm on the floor. I see cruz and i said well. I guess you owe me an apology and he says why and i said well you told me that anyone who is for the assault weapons ban and is engaged in sophistry and he said no. I didn't you know there. There's such a thing as kind of a bad guy and unfortunately a lot of bad guys are sitting around doing nothing refusing to do something about assault weapons about background checks. Wow oh how these insane people kill kill people way way way too often <hes> okay again. We have andy slavic. Andy was the <hes> administrator during last part of the obama administration for medicare and medicaid and <hes> he he was on one of our first shows and we really did the whole thing on the sort of the whole span of the history of a._c._a. Today we're doing something much narrower narrower. Which is we're gonna be talking about in in the debates the democratic debates. There's been a lot of discussion about insurance about the private insurance <hes> there's there's every democrat wants to get to universal health care <hes> some wanna go to single payer and there's been this argument focused on whether or not to allow private insurance <hes> in in single payer and <hes>. That's what we're going to talk about <hes>. I think you'll enjoy this discussion. Hey everybody we have. I repeat yes on the al franken podcast. They failed the first time no it means people just fucking loved you. That's what it means. Let's great great thank you that's nice and you're back because we've been through a couple rounds of these democratic debates and <hes> sort of in the last round healthcare healthcare took up a lot of of the debate and it got sort of contentious <hes> a number of times on whether to to have single payer with no private insurance or single payer with the ability get some private insurance and and <hes> every other country every developed country in the world does have some form of universal care right correct their various forms of that and bernie sanders sanders will point in both debates he's been in. He says i live in vermont and just by north is a country recall canada and in canada they have single payer and canadians pay half of what we pay for prescription prescription drugs and they up single payer right and then he's in detroit and he was five miles from here. There is a country called canada canada and they have single payer and they cover everybody and they get insulin insulin for one tenth of what we pay here in the united states they do have private healthcare insurance usually paid for by the employer. I've read anywhere from two thirds of three quarters of canadians uh-huh use some kind of supplemental that doesn't mean a country couldn't have single payer and no private insurance <hes> no one's done it yet. I mean great. Britain is socialized medicine but you can get private supplemental insurance. I am not taking the position here. I'm not i. I want to kind of stay out of this. I wanna stay out of who who who should be our nominee and here's why i vote for any of them right because the other the guy is donald trump and he is scary so i realize that every one of our candidates candidates wants to win. They wouldn't have gotten unless they want to win. Was they believed that they would make the best president of the united states not just in the field but in the country right <hes> either people with confidence i'd say but that doesn't make them malignant narcissists and they're also democrats and they also all want universal care right now. We talked before four and we both agree that democrats win on healthcare. That was the case until eighteen. We picked up forty thirty house. Seats the number one issue in exit polls by far was healthcare it. It actually was a higher than the next two combined that's right and if anything it's gotten worse on their side because trump trump has signed onto the his justice department to this lawsuit is going to go to the supreme court if the lawsuit succeeds in the supreme court poof there goes the a._c._a. Completely therefore i think you and i had the the same reaction into the debate which is okay. I know this is incredibly important. Precisely what are planning is is very important i bought but is it really. I think every democrat knows that if any one one of these candidates on the democratic side wins that they would sign any bill that any one the other other candidates would be able to pass through <hes> the house and the senate even say if we got the senate back which is not at all sure at all and we're not going to get rid of the filibuster filibuster. I don't think if we have fifty one so andy slab it was i'd give him two distinctions one saved the healthcare dot gov website the one that crashed and saved the obama presidency that could be argued argued. Yeah yeah yeah and look at it not for nothing. <hes> people like yourself who had invested a lot in getting this to where it was <hes> to be able to say at the end of the first year that at that point seven million people have signed up for insurance on the exchange by when you got it right was was a really important thing to be able to otherwise i think people who already have reason to have not a lot of faith in government <hes> would have had even less than so it was good and that we were able to make at least good on what you guys had started. We talked a lot about that. Last time you're on then we talked about just really the whole arc of the a._c._a. And what's next so he had really broad conversation today. We're gonna have a narrower conversation which is to basically look at what's being debated now and what the different plans are of the candidates democrat candidates who have plans hands what trump's plan i guess is he will be introducing a plan supposedly in september supposedly oh that's that's right. You don't necessarily count on him to do everything he does. Yeah yeah okay so <hes> you know contrast contrast what he's been doing and saying with our our plans which is what you and i both think we should be doing in these debates you. I think you've got it right which is not that the distinctions on how to cover every american earn important they are and and in some part primaries are about drawing out those distinctions but you know i worry that they are off course and lost the plot a little bit when in four debates they don't mention once that the president currently is in cahoots with eighteen state republican attorney general to essentially get rid of the entire e._c._a. All of pre existing condition protections requirement that prescription drugs are covered the ability for millions and millions of americans to afford healthcare subsidy the whole rupture and you would think that that was worth pointing out and even as an end look. I think there we we we should step back and understand is with their into an argument is about not. What do we all believe because you. She said they all believe that everybody in the country to be able to afford to take their family when they're sick barton on every one of them with arguing about is how so the conversation about how is one one that is a little bit interesting and certainly important directionally but as you said earlier the reality is the question we need to understand is is will they push for and sign legislation that will indeed help every american take care of their families when they get sick and if the answer there is yes and i think it's universally yes possibly sanders might might only sign something that looks more like what what he's put forward based on some of the things he said right but i think the sanders supporters are saying that any kind of for profit or private even if it isn't for profit <hes> which is there's like minnesota's almost only not for profit that they put fat into the system and we pay more because of that now. I think one thing that bernie would say is that my plan covers everything everything yeah so so <hes> you know part of the <hes> supplemental private insurance in canada is for glasses or for vision you for dental hearing aids. Maybe hearings right so everything will be covered but here's the one thing i knows. It doesn't uncover face-lifts <hes>. Here's the thing i don't understand is who covers people for plastic surgery anyway. I guess there is a market there but i mean if a fifty year old guy i comes in and he's looking a little jowly. He says i'd like some plastic surgery insurance. Why would you give plastic surgery and this is just something i think about yeah no. It's that said it's a darn good question at me because there really is i really is no such thing as jowl insurance. I don't think yeah like mcconnell. Donal will have the line of college freshmen. Were you couldn't get covered for that. Here's a a- another thing when i see plastic surgery where you go like man that man that woman has had work done i the thought of a practice for a plastic surgeon called the minimalist okay and when he does is he <hes> puts the the patient under and <hes> does nothing absolutely nothing after a while wraps the person's face in in some kind of gauze and tape with slits for the eyes and <hes> then when they go into a spa for like a two three weeks of of recovering at the spa they <hes> <hes> get massages and <hes> great diet just a really really healthy diet some exercise lots and lots of rest and just fun activities and then after the two or three weeks he unwraps the gauze and and <hes> she looks great for he looks great because you would write like the the minimalist. I can't see the work. I that's that's amazing. You can barely tell anything was done yeah so that's my next scam. The point is is is that <hes> the bernie plan would would replace any need for supplemental private insurance because the plan itself his plan itself would cover everything except faceless. I'd only suggest that as a practical matter save some oxygen for the fact that there were arguing over how one person thinks that sky-blue is better than powder blue. One person thinks that royal blue is better than powder blue when the other side is dark dark dark gray and we have to make sure we save enough oxygen to say hey wait a minute while we are talking about things. Let's recognize these distinctions. We talked earlier about if this were in a conversation in about global warming. This'll be the equivalent of having a knockdown drag out our long fight obsessing and taking over around whether natural natural gas is a proper transition right fuel. Everybody on the stage would resign the paris accords now. Some of them aren't favor of the green new deal some of them may like parts of the green deal and otherwise but our choices going to be between those distinctions are choices going to be between trump's environmental environmental policy and there's and so we need to get a little bit back to the general election mindset and <hes> recognizing you you've been in these situations you gotta to fight the primary and maybe you would say it'd be curious what your thoughts are. Can you fight a primary and still keep poop and hope to win and silky. People focused focused on the contrast in the general election. Yeah i think you can do that. It's just got to keep the balance a little bit more toward the differences between the the democrats and trump rather than the differences between how to get to universal or how to do single payer the prime distinction and let's let's take a step back definitely because people did leave those debates confused so what what what are the candidates agree on what i want to talk so they every candidate that that that <hes> is both from what they've said it will as some of the primary knowledge we have a believes leaves that everybody should have available to them a plan offered by the government that they should have available to them no matter what <hes> what they disagree on is whether or not if they have something through the private sector whether it's something like medicare advantage or it's something through their employer <hes> or something thing that takes care of a special need that they have because maybe they have a disabled child or something <hes> whether or not they should still be able to keep that plan says nothing about whether that absolutely available and as you pointed out earlier that most of the other countries in the world <hes> provide you some role for the public and private sector because of the fact that they do depend upon one another and mash together now when bernie is saying thing and i think he principal person saying we should really not have a role for the public sector for the private sector he tapping into something real which is the anger the the the right the rightful anger at people who have been putting profits over really caring for people in this country for too long you know the <hes> pharmaceutical sector makes sixty nine billion dollars in profits last year <hes> and they charge ten times for insulin or close to ten times for insulin what what's charge in other countries entries and just in general at last time your hair you say europe pays about thirty to forty percent of what we do right for farmers great good good example. It costs about fifteen dollars to produce a vial of insulin. If you're being generous about actually you could produce and this is something that's been around for how long insulin but around on forever and in nineteen ninety six that fifteen dollar violet insulin sold for about fifteen dollars costs a little bit less to make it than in the u._s. Today that fifteen dollar bible of insulin if you were to take inflation and just grow inflation approximately you'd get to thirty nine dollars and thirty nine dollars is what you can buy insulin foreign canada that same exact vial of insulin from the same factor in the u._s. cost two hundred and forty dollars and that is causing causing people to ration their own insulin and there's been deaths and the pharmaceutical industry spends about four hundred million dollars a year just from one lobby to prevent any progress in bringing the the cost of drugs down. There is a lot of anger appropriately for the fact that our system caters to the private sector at the expense of real people. I think the sanders sanders supporters are calling more attention to this and better than anybody has in the past with they're asking for for is something that really reshapes a how that works now he is using the brand for this is medicare for all other people bull and this is where it starts get confusing also saying their plan has medicare for all so maybe a ticket step back and say what is medicare so medicare is a program passed passed in nineteen sixty five and it covers two groups of people people over sixty five and people living with disabilities. It has a very antiquated benefit. That's called party in part b. and part d that covers hospital stays and it covers doctor visits covers some drugs if you buy the party what bernie sanders is offering really doesn't look a lot like that for one. It doesn't have a party party and party structure. It creates a different set of benefits that look more like the a._c._a. A._c._a. Secondly medicare uses something called the medicare trust fund which is a bunch of money. That's been reserved to pay for medicare claims he's not talking about tapping typing into that <hes> necessarily and this comes from just income tax revenue it it comes from payroll tax <hes> okay yep okay specific diffic- line item on your payroll tax. That's what it does now yes his would would come out of the general fund of frederick that's right so any document raising taxes on the wealthy and a couple of other things to to try to compensate so would he also said they'll be a tax increase for middle class but their healthcare will be free. You know <hes>. I don't see where like elizabeth warren was asked a few times in that debate will the middle class people be paying more on their taxes and she said they'll be less out of pocket for them right. I'd like to see the math on that. <hes> for some people it might be less out of pocket. <hes> at the same income thinks. Let's say somebody just doesn't is young doesn't get sick right and and that's fine. I'm trying to make a very simple point which is for all your helping me. Make it and maybe i have made well but my point is the medicare for all isn't like the current medicare program really the only thing about it that re- that references medicare is it pays a network work it would pay in a very similar way to medicare but it is it is medicare is a is a word choice at the brand choice that sanders and others have chosen into us but it's not the medicare program. The reason that is in my opinion is because medicare is an extremely popular program. It has about eighty eight percent sent popularity what it means to people's a guarantee when you're sixty five. You're guaranteed right but medicare program today. It's as about a two-thirds public sector one-third private sector so it went it implies to people that it only comes from the government <hes> that's actually not how medicare works today and and so when other people say as you heard senator harris in the debate say the cheese in favor of medicare for all but she would include an option for that to be provided by the private sector or the public sector depending on people's choices and she is chain sure stance a little bit on that from the beginning of the candidate the word would be clarified. Yes okay yes. Yes i think she i think she has said she's for medicare for all and i think to be fair to her. She said <hes> this is what i mean by it. I think she was a little bit <hes> while she was asked yes shoot women ate all private insurance and she raised her hand and she said yes no right. She said yes and then the next day she said no. <hes> that's what i consider changing finishing. Yes definite right right and i look. I think these are complicated. Issues complicated questions but the most important point is like they'd be sure but i i see the distinctions that are meaningful however for most americans. What do they want. They want it to work that means that someone in their family gets sick. They wanna be able to afford to take care of them and they don't really necessarily care how it works. As much as that it works they just don't want anybody. Whether it's the president of the united states congress their insurance companies fine print to be able to take something away from them at a moment of need what but i would say is all of the democratic candidates want that there are distinctions that matter and that could certainly cause you wanna say candidate better than kennedy in this position position however those distinctions are so fine in my opinion relative to where where trump is that we we. This is where we are losing the plot and i think we'd be wiser to say. We all want the same thing. We are arguing over how to get there not to take anything away from those distinctions but by god. This is a position that in the main that's going to be determined by the congress how we get there. I i just want your vote because i want to get to this place. It's very very different from donald trump. Okay i wanna say <hes> two things here. One part of the way you argue what you say we should be focusing on is you'll remember the trump said that he would replace obamacare with something terrific and when it turned out that's something terrific twenty three twenty two twenty three million americans americans with lose coverage right now it costs more for many of them right and there wouldn't be guarantees of protection for people with preexisting conditions and on and on that's why we had the election we had in two thousand eighteen where we picked up forty seats in the house right and there's no reason to believe no matter what he says is between now and the election that he's going to do. He lies all the time. He doesn't know what he's talking about. All the talk member when he said who knew healthy ear was complicated right well. Here's the danger sign. I talked to somebody from the white house last week. Who said that trump believes he can win on healthcare and you know a believes he can win and healthcare is just simply not to run on his record and if he wanted to not run on his record then the last several debates were just music ears. Yes we have to emphasize that. He has been a disaster even with maintaining the a._c._a. Because of you've stuff they've done smaller enrollment period less <hes> people helping you sign up <hes> less payments. The people who have high needs low income in the last two and a half years seven million americans have lost insurance coverage under president trump and that's when when he failed to get the policy wanted through congress so imagine what will happen when he succeeds in getting those policy through through congress and let me i'd say one more thing before we go any further and this may sound a little self serving and it is. I guess there was one provision in the affordable. Oh care act that checked. Put a check on how much prophet insurance companies could make and that was called that was called. The medical loss ratio okay who authored that. I don't wanna say they don't want to say. I think you could confirm this. I think it was senator al franken yes yes. I recall now now. Now what the medical loss ratio basically said that insurance companies <hes> small pool insurance companies had disbanded vandalise eighty percent of the premiums because if the insurance company didn't meet the eighty or eighty five percent the medical loss ratio in other words didn't spend eighty five percent of the large group on healthcare but spent it in on c._e._o. Salaries or marketing or administrative costs if they didn't do that. You gotta check back so people and they become more more efficient now. Actually thanks to the millar. He's junk plans now. The trump's approved are back in the forty forty five fifty percents on and you would think that if you're giving insurance company a dollar the least you could ask for would be can you spend most of it back on the medical expenses that we need the thing it is be interesting and i think we're you there now. I think we would be talking about legislation leases. Why not increase the medical ratio one percent every year require that the more efficient required them to be more efficient and reduce costs every year but just to take a step back and just take a look at what you said in the importance of what that did is you know we are suspicious of of oil and gas companies polluting the environment where suspicious of automobile manufacturers making cars arza don't that don't comply with with religion. We'll we don't do necessarily as only option is to get rid of all oil and gas companies and get rid of all automobile manufacturers picture. What we do say is let pass regulations which require that these actors meet our standards or they're breaking the law and can't exist exist and those works so well that that's one of the problems the oil and gas companies. I mean i is they have captured the congress ah to accent and that's the argument that the bernie people will make us at the insurance. It's a it's a fair. That's a it's a fair argument. The point is that regulation particularly securely of highly consolidated industries is a tool that we don't use enough and that i think the medical loss ratio was one of the first and best examples. Where are we said fine. You're going to serve this market. You're going to play by a set of the rules much like pre existing conditions are and so when we had a different <hes> president resident different congress. We said hey auto mobile manufacturers need to get certain miles per gallon in their vehicles and is it turns out. Everybody's better off when you do that when you do that intelligently and so there's no question people's <hes> animosity that the private sector is well earned by the private sector and in israel and i'd also say twenty eighteen with a first danton the armor to say that voters and grassroots actually matters more at the end of the day eh than the money and politics but there is still an overwhelming influence of money and politics and there's no love lost between the american public and these these companies so. I don't think it's actually that anybody on that. Stage is fearful of insurance companies or pharmaceutical companies or special interests <hes> <hes> i wouldn't say that as a blanket statement but i would say as a rule i think those guys are losing power pretty rapidly what i think they're scared of and why they would say <hes> <hes> maybe i shouldn't rush into an of getting rid of the option that people can buy employer-based coverage or some private sector coverage is because the reality is you've got one hundred fifty million people today who are employed to whom their employer pays seventy percent of their coverage and they fear that if they take take that away that they're not going to see that money now at the same time new jobs that are created today in the new economy most of them don't come with health benefits fits. Most of the new jobs are <hes> very very different today than they were when those jobs were put together so we can't stand pat. Nobody wants is interesting avenue. This is completely off topic and i'll get through right away. The yang talked about a._i. And you know five years ten years from now we're gonna be. Who's that guy talking about a._i. Because boy was he right. We're not going to need truck drivers as certain point or anywhere near as many well. We're going to need more therapists. We're gonna have to start training people for you know other kinds of jobs yeah the human side okay so let's talk about how many candidates have a very specific plan for healthcare. How may have served just in general parameters. I'd say that there are four or five of them that have released their own unique plans with their own unique features all of them though all of the people on both stages have declared one way or the other what they support when it comes to covering everybody so it's real easy to know that they all want to cover everybody but a few of them sanders harris michael bennett <hes> joe biden <hes> have released their own plans may be missing one one or two and then there's a few more that are going to release some that are working on <hes>. Some of the unique plans included judge them right. I'm wondering is basically going to be public. Public option with <hes> repeat says is medicare for all the one at and that is another way of saying the public option option. Let's talk by harris because that's i guess the most recent and also it has some features to it that i'd like to look at <hes> like a ten year transition now. I think you've been saying all along the creating a single pair and her thing isn't single payer's is medicare for all either through government medicare program or a private sector medicare provider. I think okay right by people have now like people now but the ten year window you've been saying this is much more complicated indicated to go from the healthcare system. We have now to a single payer system. You compare it more to city planning thing then just flipping a switch right. That's right what we're about ten years out from when the e._c._a. Was passed and there was a five year window before it was mostly implemented <hes> i would tell you that it's it's very very hard. It's not necessarily that we need five years or ten years ears <hes> but i think the idea of saying we're going to do certain things in stages. <hes> makes a certain amount of sense. What is what is important. Though as she begins many of the changes immediately she doesn't wait ten years to make coverage available to everyone just and i i don't think the listener has to think hard through each one of these but the kind of choices you would have to make when you're setting setting up a single payer plan what would you this is the city planning analogy got. I'll give you four big decisions that you really need to make any plan you choose <hes> and assuming in all these plans you're going to cover everybody with his high quality care as possible for as low cost as possible awesome. That's the aim you gotta make decisions. The first is how do you pay hospitals and doctors and that's important because if you pay see them what the medicare program pays them today and they no longer able to receive the payments that they get from commercial insurance companies they would make a lot l._s. and that would have implications for the availability of care for people going into medicine for for those sort when we saw the republican plan and <hes> seventeen eighteen they were gonna essentially get rid of medicaid expansion which freaked out everybody in rural minnesota right in rural america and america because when we did the a._c._a. We expanded medicaid and that meant for rural hospitals goals they would get paid when someone came in the emergency room instead of someone that had no insurance the uncompensated care and because of all the compensated care they were able to get more doctors. Get more nurses get more technicians. Better machines get better food all of that right and became the highest employer in the county case. That's right and in states that didn't expand medicaid. It's been a disaster for hospitals. There's just a report. It just came out on that. There's no question we have to control costs but how we pay providers is important and it's not just a level or the amount we pay providers. It's what do we pay them for. Is there an opportunity to pay them based upon the outcomes that they achieve how good a job they do keeping people healthy. There's a whole set of questions that are there under that under that question the second question that has to be entered as what is the patient responsibility from a financial perspective. What should it be sanders. Sanders would say it should be zero. No co pays no deductibles which obviously sounds attractive to people you know the republican ideal is that they have a ten in two thousand dollars deductible and you give people a spending account for those that have enough money to invest their money in and save. It's not my fault that they ate terribly the and drank all the time and you know we're lazy well. Is it your fault that you're born with health with a heart defect right. You can't blame you can't blame kids at the very least and that's an these plans that have that have really discriminate in that direction so what what is there in between what sanders is where this sort of republican nirvana is is. There's a lot for one. I believe that deductibles are really not necessary. Deductible officials say if you get sick in january. It's gonna cost you a lot more than if you get sick in december and it doesn't seem to make i don't get that because every year your your plan starts over january first alright deductible and so the first is on but there but there are sensible ways of saying that there should be some amount of responsibility ability borne by individuals based on their income the you know there's a lot of studies out which say you know if if as long as people are paying less at the end of the day less than seven or eight percent senator income if they make over one hundred hundred fifty thousand two hundred thousand dollars in medical expenses that it's affordable and so there's some affordability criteria for for individuals and you know there are things that are if you go to the emergency room. Maybe you should have gone to you could have gone to the urgent care clinic. Maybe it should cost you a little bit more. There's a lot of different room to maneuver and i'm not i'm not advocating as much as i'm saying what are the four types of decisions that need to the second one is. How do you think about what amount that an individual family has to pay and i think all of the democratic candidates would say it should be income graded and people with low and fixed incomes should pay nothing very very very little and then above that <hes> there should be some <hes> some some amount that that can be figured in the third medicare does which medicare does breath the third question is what should be the role of the employer providing coverage if they want to provide coverage should they have to will they be allowed to ooh right. Should they be forced to <hes> which is which is an employer mandate <hes> should they enforced to above a certain size. How do you create equality between people who don't don't work for a regular don't work. People aren't a lot of people working for general electric or ford motor anymore. How do you make sure that people who work for the company or work doc on farms <hes> or work multiple jobs are driving uber get treated exactly the same way as someone from a large employer and right now the tax system mm-hmm gives a big benefit to people who get their insurance through their employer and if a simpler gets to implore gets deducted so we have we'd spent two ended discount discount world war two where the system all the origins and the railroads in world war two and kaiser permanent day was kind of how the employer lawyer piece started but this deduction you point to it's really interesting. It's not a small amount of money. We taxpayers spend we spend two hundred fifty billion dollars a year on allowing employers to give tax free insurance to their employees and we don't spend it on people we don't give the same tax tax break to everybody who gets insurance on their own and so given that most jobs these days my kids jobs and every you know all all of our younger generations that are growing up are are not necessarily going to get access to that tax break. It really is a tax break for people were fortunate enough to work for these large companies. We have to figure out how to address that fairly and one person's version and sanders version that means doing away with the employer system in a of insurance entirely <hes> in some other people system that means gradually moving away from it that's kind of where harris and in some people's version like biden's it means employer wants to do this and make it a benefit of working there and they do pay for a large part of your coverage. Let's let's let them do that and the another wrinkle that ryan brought up union unions unions trade off salary salary or pay for healthcare right and so it look it's not as if these details don't matter to the public they do matter to the public but again the the the end of the day they're all different ways of accomplishing the same thing and furthermore to your point. The senate and the house are not going going to give the president exactly what their plan look like. They're going to give them what they think makes sense. I told you there were four without trying it out. I'll give you the the fourth decision is is <hes> what should be the role of private insurance and the private sector and this is not a yes or no answer because in some cases in some countries the insurance is used as a supplement and some cases. It's used as a substitute in some cases. It's used to provide things above love basic level in some cases. It's used as an alternative in very few cases that i can think of is almost no role for the private sector. Even in canada ended a in the united kingdom where you have a very prominent government system. There are a lot of people if they want to get something from <hes> the private sector and so and usually it's through their employer right but there's a point here that standards makes and others make that's important to address which is about the inefficiency of having many many many many different health plans who all send a claim forms to their <hes> <hes> doctors different ways in all do things differently and they don't share data and they have higher administrative costs. How do you make healthcare system more efficient. How do you deal with unnecessary users prophets and so forth and again the answer could be anything from do away with them entirely to regulate the hell out of them. Which is i think along. The lines of the medical loss ratio. We talked about earlier out or <hes> or or or something but that's an issue that needs to be addressed. You know when you you a run last time when you did this last time you talked a lot about physicians burning out and i think that these insurance forms are part of that right right now. There are two things remember a few thing about how physician would do under medicare for all plan if they were all reimbursed only at the medicare rate they'll be getting being paid a lot less money now to compensate for that at least somewhat <hes> it might be easier and they would certainly make their job more satisfying <hes> if they didn't have to deal with all the insurance forms and regulations but there's also an income effect as well that we can forget right yeah because you think of doctors. There's a lot of doctors making a lot of money and this would if the government ran this you become a doctor for a different reason. I would think yeah well well. I think we should think about doctors and a few different categories. <hes> you know there's primary care doctors and mental health professionals and people in that nature whose job the object is to keep people healthy and they don't get paid nearly enough as it is. Most of. 'em and there's not nearly enough of them. There's not nearly enough right. I'm in the places that need them and so you wouldn't do anything in good policy to discourage primary care doctors family medicine physicians in fact. We've been trying to find ways of mike paying off loans and all that kind of stuff to encourage people blue app because we do have a shortage. That's right now. They're they're. They're specialists and make a lot of money there. There are many many other types of institutions from hospitals nursing homes to you know to rehab facilities and and everybody else <hes> and you know a lot of them are very inefficient. Some of them are left to however the only game in town in the small town that they're in and they're just getting by a hanging by a thread so this is a very diverse country with a lot of different situations. The city planning analogy may not be perfect but it's important that we get these details right we get the payments to providers right we figure out how to do this in a way that encourages the kinds of physicians and healthcare professionals that we want the rewards people who are taking care of people and keeping them healthy that we don't do anything <hes> that causes people people to lose access to care because we stop <hes> hospitals in whether it's inner cities or in rural communities being able to get by and we have to start to ask those questions at the detailed level of these plans and in many respects those are the details that are probably too much for a primary but it brings me back again to to the overall point that there are a lot of details to work out. Let's make sure as democratic candidates. You don't lose sight of the fact that you don't get to deal with those details if the current president wins again the current president wins again. You have a situation that will look a lot like everybody's worst fears in my opinion opinion well. I think that's a great summary of where we are now or at least our viewpoint of it. I would like to see in the debates going forward. I still think each candidate is entitled to talk about what she or he wants to talk. Talk about of course of course and <hes> to try to win but we also need to remind people what the contrast is and the contrast is. This is a good contrast. This says where you're running against someone who is very underwater in terms of the american public and for very very very good reason right look the battleground states as we know them today wisconsin michigan pennsylvania north carolina <hes> minnesota minnesota florida these are places where the president's healthcare record is extremely unpopular <hes> in in fact a generic democrat on healthcare even in areas that are favorable to trump generally in those battleground states democrats are nine points more favorable than trump on healthcare and running on health that healthcare record reminding people of what the last two and a half years have been unlike while trump will say pretty much in the debates we can assume he'll say whatever he wants but at least people be fact checking him and they'll make a big difference silly they'll be fact checking him but if he characterizes the you know what he thinks healthcare the healthcare debate is about the democrats democrats need to be very clear in my view very strong in their view does that the general election is about trump's record versus what what therefore which which i think will not be this debate about those intricate four questions about how people are getting paid whether or not an employer cantor can't offer coverage wjr though those questions will be not the right questions to focus on <hes> if they indeed wanna win and in fact indeed want to govern successfully so i think we both agree that that these are fine distinctions to make as long as they keep it in check and keep some oxygen for the fact that the country is rapidly and scared in a very scary way taking healthcare coverage away from millions of people and again. This is just our opinion you you were head of medicare medicaid for the obama administration for the last part of that and saved. Let's face ace it <hes> the and the the obama presidency well that i don't know if you've saved the presidency but i i do think that it's given me opportunity to voice my opinion publicly and i would say <hes> that like you. I am very much looking forward it to voting for the candidate for any one of them everyone anyone anyone. I think i might had a made news there anyway but for any of them okay there you have it. <hes> thank thank you <hes> return guests for the first time. Thanks for having me back back. Okay keep listening everybody <hes> this says <hes> al franken al franken.

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Ep 31 | Joe Biden Isn't Woke Enough to Be President

The Chad Prather Show

52:24 min | 1 year ago

Ep 31 | Joe Biden Isn't Woke Enough to Be President

"Hey, everybody. Welcome to another episode of the chat break their show where we just we just kick. This thing off. We're good ready. I want to encourage everybody to come to one of my live shows. That's something that we haven't promoted on a podcast and a little while this Friday night, I'm going to be in Anaheim, California that is April fifth. I'm going to be at the grove, and I'm also going to be in Modesto, California for repeat a poor performance. The Gallo center on April sixth that's the Saturday night. So go to the newly revamped the brand new watched Chad dot com website. We are still got a few kinks in the armor, but chinks kinks kinks. I don't know. What that right where it is? But I don't know if you can have chinks in the armor and say that in the twenty first century, but I- boozy Shawn's over there shaking his hand. He shakes his head at everything. Now, I think that everybody needs come out to a show California people always say how what kind of push back. Do you get whenever you go to into a live show in California? I'll tell you we do more shows my star spangled banner comedy tour over the last couple of years. We've done more shows in. California than any other state. We've been all down the west coast. And so they're good to us out there. They really are in and people think that it's just one big land of liberals. It's not there's a lot of red out there. It's a number one St. in agriculture in so many things ranching, and it just you know, farmers that are out there folks that are blue-collar hard-working folks like yourself, especially in the central coast all those vineyards and just people who know the land, and the thing is you don't realize those folks are out there, but they'll drive miles and miles to hear some common sense comedy. And so we've been having a blast out there were headed back out there. I think this'll be Steve what is it going to be like our sixth or seventh show in California ready this year, just in the first seven. Yeah. So it's we have a blast out there. And we're going to going to be no doubt fun this weeks ago to watch Chad dot com. Get tickets come see me, we're going to be in Spokane. We're going to be in Boise, Idaho falls. We're going to be in casper, Wyoming as well as lake Charles Louisiana at the golden nugget all through April, then may eleventh kicking it off bagging. My hometown of Augusta Georgia. So. Watch Chad dot com. Go get it today. This is Wednesday and April third. April third hot news Natalie as sitting over here by do you do April Fools jokes? Did you do any of that nonsense on Monday, I used to I didn't do any time only. 'cause I forgot it. I it stresses me out to pull pranks on people. You know, what I mean like to watch the people just like panic, or whatever I think the older I get enough panic has gone on that's real in my life that I don't like to put that on other people we shot on April first. And I had I wondered on that when I was driving here. Whether or not you are prankster like that whether or not you're going to do it historically speaking I used to be like back in college. I can remember we give you one elaborate hoax we pulled. So when I was a senior in college. There was this this wasn't April Fool's, but this was a prank. It was Halloween, and we plan this thing for about a week. And there was this old old church way out in the woods that just one. Erie street light about one hundred yards down the road. Had a big cemetery out there. Big eighteen hundreds cemetery. And so me about five other guys we dressed in solid black, and we printed these bible study flyers. This said on Halloween night. This guy is going to be having a bible study. And we handed out of these two freshman that we knew that lived in the same facility we did. And so they wanted to come. And so two guys who are in on it said, well, we're going, so we'll just drive you. So they had to go pass that church will five of us route they're dressed in solid black, and we were hiding out in that cemetery, and we had a skull that was sitting on top of one of the tall tombstones with candles around it. And so we were trying the only thing we couldn't figure out because we were recording this whole process recording their reactions as they drove down the street, and they drove past the thing we couldn't figure out was how the guys are going to get them to stop in that cemetery, and they were just going to go. Hey, look, that's nice and creepy. It's halloween. Let's go in there. So as turned out one of the freshman, one of the kids were playing the prank on he goes that creepy cemetery. Let's go look at it. So they pull in there. Gravel dry parking thing. And so they go out there. And they're walking through the thing in one of our guys through like a stick out into the woods. And they're like what's that? And then the guy who's in on it looks over and sees the candles on the tombstone around the skull. He's like what's going on here? So they come in will in all at once the rest of just kinda rose up from behind tombstones and solid black, and we all had like, shotguns and stuff than we don't ch like this. This is back in the nineties when you do things like this would it. So these guys screaming like babies, I mean, just took off running back towards the car. We had another guy who was in on it. He came around from the other side of the church just jumped onto the hood of the car, and they sped out of there. And just rolled him off, you know, and those guys were literally crying you can hear them in the recording crying. And they're like, oh my God murdering babies back there. And and I mean, it was these guys were traumatize. The only thing that boozy that I think would have made that whole thing better is if one of the guys who was in on it if we could have just stopped him from getting in the car and drug him back. Into the cemetery while the rest of them drove off that maybe had a big shotgun blasts that they could have heard as they were hundred yards down the road that would really traumatize them. But like I can't do stuff like that anymore like pranks. I mean, I have I don't try to take it to. Probably shot ever one of you. That will happen. Those not the kind of deal like that was back before the days. Everybody was carrying. I wouldn't have done that in Texas. The my stuff like that carrying. Stresses me out. So anyway, I hope everybody had good, April Fools day. Here. We are April third or past all that nonsense. Beautiful days in Texas. The news things are happening. Things are going on. And and we're always faithful on Mondays and Wednesdays bring it to you. So Bucci, Sean, glad to see you sit in here. The only black man, I know with white privilege party foul Steve sitting over there hanging out again puppetmaster Mark sitting at the control deck fly in the Star Trek enterprise studio, twenty two whatever you wanna call it. And then candy DC the Queen of the is at the helm back there. She's the one who's really in charge. Don't let anybody full you. Don't don't let the little quiet in the corner, mouse, demure persona FU this. She's a mean woman, but she's single boys. So hey, you gotta come through all the big daddy's first Natalie what's going on in the world today. Y'all got a couple of things I want to talk about but what's tie t top on your list. Well, I was I was I was going to lead with Biden. But I'm not gonna. I really because what I noticed was everybody nipsy hustle. Nipsy hustle. The. Yes, this rapper that was murdered. What? Now, what me on this story? This you, and I need you in boozy to fill me in on this, Sean probably could do a better job because you knew who nipsy was rapper. Yeah. He was a well known rapper. He was very kid very entrepeneurship mentality. It's about him. He wrote on this tote a quote on Twitter, having strong enemies is a blessing an hour later. He got shot in front of his store in Crenshaw. He's leaving. He was it was him in three other people even the store. He had a store called a marathon in Crenshaw and they're walking out and somebody walked up to them and shot him six times. And then caught on camera caught on camera and paramedics at a guy ran away jumped over fence on alley and then jump into a car with the female getaway drivers what what's been told. So do they have they apprehended the he's? On he's still they're still looking for him. Okay. Yeah. It's pretty dark. You got shot in the head. They said autopsy said he died from shot to the head and torso. Video is going around of him getting a CPR trying to resuscitate it on the ground. I saw a little bit of the video then put him in the ambulance and things like that. And and quite honestly, I I didn't know until you were telling me the story the other day. I didn't know I didn't know that really was or anything like that. They're so many rappers. There's so many of these guys out there with all these names in the, you know, the nicknames and stuff I can't keep up with. I mean all the artists. Now, he was a gang members gang related, but more than that. He was a guy that try to inspire people. He had his own store. He bought a pretty much about a strip mall and opened up in over his own barbershop his own store. Besides that he sold. I won't sell them mix taste before he became mainstream. And he had a his eighth mix tape e sold for one hundred dollars a pop he sold only thousands of them. Opened up a co working space in Crenshaw collector ninety he opened up a stem program for kids in the neighborhood to try to help them better himselves to get out of that mentality and looted on Monday the day after he died. He was supposed to have a meeting with police office about gang gratification. Try to ease that tension between people. Yeah. And obviously, you know, he grew up in gangs. And yeah, he was fourteen fifteen pro group entrench Shaw. He you know, he had he was part of a gang probably. But they wanna say, oh, he was a gang member. It's like that wasn't what he was known for what he was. Yeah. He was an artist try to inspire people to get out of that mentality. I got a lot of feeling that you're going to hear more and more about him and the story, and it just it just reeks of a bigger story. That's there for sure we're going to hear some some things. I mean, you got big you got to park you got all of those old historic and legendary stories that now become modern legends. And that's the thing. Like, if you if you I mean, there's going around if you just like watch watch him talk, and It's Hugh I said he goes, I'm not about getting gold chain. And having he goes before I do that to build myself up properly like miss open, a business try to bring back to communion. So to say, no have have a gold chain have nice cars. Like, yeah. Like Obama said women Twickenham me prove man exactly how need where not pound chains. Obama nip see same thing. I got a strong woman. Very strong woman. She could bench press me. These eight women. You know, how you know how the martyr's get the seventy two virgins Steve's getting aid hookers. That's the life. He's lived need some expired sorts party, Tom early mom. Well, pray for the family pray for the folks round the legacy. Obviously, it's going to be a legacy there because the guy was accomplishing things. So yeah, for sure sure. Yeah. It's a shame that sometimes notoriety has to be brought in tragedy. So it's one of those stories what you got. Yes. Let's talk about this is going to surprise you, folks. I got I got a feeling what we're about to say about Joe Biden may surprise you it might piss some people off. But I don't care. That's nothing new here. So Biden has a apparently. A woman that was running for Lieutenant governor has said that back in that moment that he touched her and kind of groped her inappropriately and in smelled her hair in kissed her neck just back of her head. He grabbed her grabbed her by the back of the head was rubbing her hair. Right. He nestled kinda hit Nestle his face into the back of her head while she was waiting on stage. He he left a put a big long kiss on the back of her head, and he was just rubbing her hair. And she was said she was mortified because she's not washed her hair that day. And she was thinking why is the vice president rubbing my hair? And so the blowback on all of that is he came out and apologized. And now a second person has come out and said that she didn't feel like his apology was sincere that it was almost a cop out. And so therefore she felt that she needed to come out and say that she experienced much the same thing. I've actually hired another story. This morning worse. He said they experience something somewhat similar with him. But that. That is who he is. It's it might come across a little creepy, but they weren't creeped out by it in any way. So there are some women who are defending Biden. So my good friend, you need to follow ram rants on Twitter at ram, rants and. My buddy Richard out of out of Portland, Oregon. Check him out. He did a compilation series of tweets forty-one, different videos of Joe Biden, basically touching inappropriately affectionate everything from children all the way up to women and the guy is very affectionate. He's very touchy. It's creepy. It's freaky. I encourage people to go watch the Monday episode. I'm sorry. Yeah. The Monday episode of the news, and why it matters. Glenn beck. Got our our makeup technician K Castro in the seat there. And he started imitating what Joe Biden does to people in. Listen, it is creepy to watch. It's very uncomfortable. It's disconcerting to watch this. People have come out. And they said, well, that's just Joe Joe's touchy feely, he's a toucher. He's affectionate. And people said look, we've you know, we've known him for forty years. You know, Nancy Pelosi said, my grandchildren knowing they love Joe in. But he that's just how we is. He's an affectionate guy. You know, they also said that about Michael Jackson and Bill Clinton. But that's another story. So I sit there and I'm thinking, okay. Look, I am naturally extroverted. My extroversion can be taken as flirtation. I just you know, we've always talked about. I mean, I'm just naturally, I'm a hugger. I mean, I saw you know, I walk in the room. I'm gonna hug you keys hands with me. I'm hands it with boozy. I'm fine with the I touch Steve all the time. Natalie when she got here smelter, we know we know. Might be a southern thing. I don't know. But I'm I'm very affectionate that way. So I'm looking at it. And I and I'm watching Joe, and I'm like, okay is the guy is the guy. A creep is a Pedo is he a groper is the array pissed I don't think so I just don't I mean, it's creepy. But I just don't think that this guy. I just think he's got a weird way. Now, the issue that I have is the media and the left's double standard the view. Yeah. Because what becomes out and says, I I don't want him to do it list. Because that's Joe because he says I promised going forward. I'm not gonna do that. She said if the women felt uncomfortable. They should've spoken up then and said something holy. Yeah. Well, I mean that's that is hypocritical. And that in and of itself is what I pissed about. Because now you have this double standard. Now, you have this person who can barely recollect a story about Brett cavenaugh and all these people coming up with these things happen what thirty years ago thirty some odd five years ago. And you know, that's well, that's is relevant is is it a if it had happened yesterday. And then you've got, you know, people like a hot hot mic episode with Donald Trump says I'm gonna grab them in the P. And he didn't say that. He said if you're a celebrity, they'll just let you do those things, you know, the and he's telling the truth. He didn't say I do them, which is the big misconception. Why don't you do with your president? Who grabs women that? No. That's not what he said. He said if you're celebrity they will let you and he's right. That's a fact so they want they wanna crucify everybody. And they wanna do all. I mean, like I go back to Al Franken Al Franken the problem without Franken's deal when he got caught with the picture with. Hands in front of the girl, you know, on the on the military aircraft. There who was there on you know, on the USO tour with him. The issue. There was not that picture to me because he was he's a comedian. He was making a joke. Yes. She was asleep. It was inappropriate. We all do inappropriate things. And I'm not excusing those things, but she accused him of putting his tongue in her mouth behind backstage before they went on the thing. So it was a little bit more than just smell and hair or posing. Like, you're fixing to grab somebody. That's the double standard that wears me. Because if you're gonna hold if that's going to be the standard that's got to be the standard if somebody is acting inappropriately. Remember, Joe Biden says, oh, I don't think I did all those things. I didn't. You know? Remember, Joe believe all women believe all women? That's what the came out during the whole cavenaugh hearing, ya gotta believe I'll women. Well, we don't believe all women because everybody lies, and I'm not saying that some people don't get harassed or groped or sexually assaulted. Of course, they do. But there's also a lot of people that are out there looking for attention, and it's going to demean the person who actually got salted or groped is just like screaming racism where you see a white bathtub at ain't racism, it diminishes real racism. How old is Joe Biden one hundred. Okay. Well, I wanna know what age. I can. It's okay to you know, it's just Steve's just old. Yeah. Well, listen, if you want ram rance go see Richard mills follow him on Twitter. And we're gonna get him on the show someday. My little gay buddy ram. He's is awesome. Big dude named ram. Let me go watch his videos. It's creepy compilation of touch and these young girls and like I saw one yesterday where he walks up. He shakes the guy's hand, he shakes the girls. And and then it's just weird. He reaches over any grabs or face like underneath gin. And she snatches her head away like that. I'm like who does that who does that who walks up to a stranger shakes, and he didn't do it to the guy. Do I need to feel your chin to know? You is this a mating ritual amongst joy need to pick the light side of your hair think he goes so you can go Sokoto parties. They'll be great coke. Let's talk about that sh-. It'll be great to go to a party and see Joe Biden in the corner Joe Biden, his sin officers pulled up above his navy. And his little his little suspenders on his socks. Do you feel uncomfortable? Do you think Joe Biden wear socks spenders candies Queen of the you're shaking your head? Yes. I he does that he probably shirt in socks up. I mean, creepy uncle Joe. I call him woke now woke woke because so here's why the left Gant. So okay, Joe Biden has not announced the candidacy for president. Yeah. Okay. We assume that that's the plan. We've always assumed it I called from the beginning. It would be a Biden Bego ticket which is just a joke to me. But but here's the problem with Joe Biden. 'cause I think is a person I think if Joe Biden walked in the room, I think everybody in the room would like Joe Biden, I think he'd be a friendly guy. Be a nice guy. He is what he is. Each just a power broker in Washington. DC vice-president. Yes, he's put his foot in his mouth by saying. We finally found an articulate black man in talking about Obama, a set of things that were just stupid asinine. But the thing about Joe is Joe's not left enough. Joe's not left enough. He is too. Centrist is to modern start to moderate. And so the left can't have Joe Biden. So this is their tricky little way of undermining his candidacy before he ever even gets on Lord because he's not woke enough, but I call him uncle woke because he's trying to be more woke. He's trying to be the woken to the woke. He's trying to. That's why he wants to choose Stacey Abrams from Georgia who's an absolute and complete idiots socialist. I wanted to say something really mean right there, but I'm not going to. Did you see the video where the bama's came out defended Biden now me? No, okay. That's exactly right point. You were making. Okay. I haven't heard I haven't heard Obama. I hadn't heard Barry. So a say anything about anything recently? I mean, he's been silent. The last thing I really heard from Barry was his final four March madness bracket. Somebody look that up on Twitter. Let me know if he's. I think Biden is not left enough for the left. So here's where Trump has played the left. Here's where you just watch. Now. This is what's happened. Here's the trend of the last two years. Here's how Trump has masterfully. You wanna talk about forty chess. Here's how Trump has masterfully played the left most of his opinions most of his actions, most of his orders, most of the things he's done in past and proposed have been very interest-. They've been very moderate. They've been very middle of the road. He has not done anything extreme people wanna talk about border security and border walls. That's not extreme every president going all the way back to George Hw. Bush talked about this incessantly that we need more border security and that includes every liberal president. We've had Clinton. What was the other guy's name? Yeah. Obama all of them have talked about this. They've all talked about this is still a centrist position. They just hate it because his Trump. So what Trump has done is his decisions have been right down the middle. But yet they're perceived as being far, right? So now, the left has to go as far left as they can go to make him appear far, right? Make sense. He's right here in the middle. Got to look at what he's done. He's right here in the middle. Now, they have to go to an extreme just to be relevant. I mean, Cory Booker onstage screaming the other night. Looking like Howard Dean. Out if you have something to say, you don't have to screen. I'm all for passion, eloquence, and charisma I'm all for that. But I mean, Cory Booker his eyes are going to pop out of his head. They're gonna pop out. Crazy is. He's a Stephen a Smith of politics. Listen, I heard Alec Baldwin the other day on Howard Stern show. Alec Baldwin said, and I it about this again stand. Alec Boehm first of all for this reason, we know for this reason, you know, you know, for this reason so Alec Baldwin is on Trump. And he says the Trump White House is one big FU. He didn't say FU. He said FU, he said, Sarah Sanders. She's just balled up like a not like a fist standing. There has nothing to say. She's just one big f you to the world. He goes, Sean Hannity's in idiot. Mark Levine's idiot, who's another Tucker Carlson idiot lists all these people? In in stern says we'll have you ever gone on their show. You ever debated them. Talk to me goes, no, I wouldn't condescend. F them f Trump the Trump White House. And so basically says Trump is one big FU. The White House is one big f you, but then he proceeds to f- everybody else in the world happens to be on the right if so we see where the ultimate fuse are coming from. Right. It's because these guys are so twisted up in a not. But what he said that is so dang true Alec Baldwin said this. He said what needs to happen right now is about half the people who claim to be running on the left right now need to just drop out because I got thirty people going. Kind of obvious. They're making a mess of themselves. There's no what to do. That's a problem. They just they're just going to throw whatever they can add it. There is no platform. There is no platform. Cory Booker has the scream and if it wasn't for Donald Trump. There would be no Alec Baldwin today. Who cares about exactly if it wasn't for the Saturday Night Live stuff? Good looking. I just met him actually a couple of months ago that he slat interface punchy did he talked down to look for a parking spot that you are already. And we were we were at an event, I was working the event and. I was more behind the scenes, and he was meeting a lot of people. And then he just looked at me. And he goes who are you? And I said, well, Natalie Wood's, and, you know, stand your, and he he just kind of wanted to know who I was. And then he started talking to somebody about some sort of dump Trump campaign who are you? He did. Natalie would stand your head a baby, and what their eyes would look like burn holes through you like a crypt. Tony. It was. You're going to giggle at me. But I I love friends and he was on. He was on friends for an address loved him so much. But then I just look Allegri. He's a good actor. Thirty thirty runs. Great thirty round with. He's so funny. He's he's doing some will and grace bits. Now. I think that shows actually. Is very funny. I thought I don't think Alec Baldwin belongs in politics. Well, they would say that about all of us. I mean, you know, they would say that about me, you know, I had somebody sent me a message of the day. I told you said we your job is to is to make me laugh, not she said your job make me laugh, not your job try to influence me politically. And I said. My job is my job is to do. What I do. Your job is to leave. Make me laugh. I love me block, you know, just now respond now, that's what I gotta do. Yesterday was sent me on nine page. Message on Facebook or Twitter about how I like your three minute rants in the truck. This stuff puts me to sleep your podcast put me to sleep. And I looked at him. And I was like, yeah. I think I think most intellectual conversation probably put this guy to sleep. And I said, we'll do he goes in any said if you ever had a lake Charles show. I'd be the first one in line. I said we'll, bro. I still do the truck videos, and I have a lake Charles show on April twentieth. So you're already at two strikes. I said you're just not paying attention his narcolepsy. We. Ticking. Come to my show pal snooze. Where to go. So what from what I took? When I was just listening to Alec when he was talking to the folks around him because everybody was listening. Intently was I don't know that he's really about politics. He just wants Trump out that that's all I heard the entire time. You was you know, he didn't say anything about left or right. He just can't stand Trump and office, and that's true of all of them. Elissa milano. Rosie O'Donnell will be Goldberg job. A are. You name them all of them. Ron perlman? Don't go. See the new hell boy why these early been a few of them. They weren't any good either zoom. I mean, what's the point? I mean, Ron Perlman rob Reiner. These guys on Twitter. I mean John cusak. Mark, Ruffalo, Chris Evans, all of these people. They don't care about politics. Get on my show come on. Let's talk politics get on here. It's out there. I promise you I will pay for your flight I class to come on the chat braid their show. We'll talk politics if you wanna talk politics. But the thing that's off the table is. I just don't like Trump. Okay, fine. As a person, I don't necessarily won't Trump Mary my daughter either. But you know, what I don't that's not what it's all about right now, we were at a crucible we were at a crossroads in this country. Let me tell you just look at the things, you know, today that you didn't know two and a half years ago, if Hillary Clinton had gotten elected, you wouldn't know that the department of Justice and the FBI were so one-sided we're so biased youth all those were middle of the road objective parties in an organizations in our country that we're all about truth and Justice and the American way, and then you find out that this is a whole underlying. Conspiracy scenario going on to fight the right? It's stupid. Yeah. And ultimately to fight Trump. Yes. Drumpf I think this is probably always went on though behind the scenes that we don't know about whether it was right or left. Everybody's out to get there on every province. Trump broke the game. Because and that's that was the thing. That's what American politics is turned into. It's changed forever. I don't see it coming back because unless you can come in there and expose the lies, George W Bush didn't expose allies, George, H W Bush didn't expose the lies. You know, those guys who were supposed supposedly conservative. They didn't expose it may trade the game. Maybe Trump a let us know what's area fifty one. He wants to let us know he wants to. I mean. But whatever. So go on creepy. Joe Biden, smell my hair. Give it to you. He gets beard if he wants to come on. Joe everybody has ever been studio twenty two as you all know, his smelled buji Schantz beer. Did you get the barrel in today and the beard bomb? I can see all this right listens. Greasy. Don't don't put it out there that I call black man. Greasy. Oh, just a nice. Smell it though. You really could come over. Yeah. Come up with that. It's like eighty porn get over that getting that beard. My assistant Allison is in the studio today. Yeah. Is solid. That's the Dallas farmers market from our sister. Caroline. Yeah. Yeah. Lesser heart big shout out to her. She sent me a whole box full of goodies. What else you got in the news Natalie forgetting, so passionate can't get passionate? Do you ever? Do you watch CNN? Yes. Okay. So do I. And this reporter said this. I wanted to read it. Because I thought it was interesting from CNN. Democrats are divided on what to do impose Muller world. Just like we go. What do we do? What do they do? Should we focus on health care? And you know, she didn't say this and get Trump that way or do we push forward with an impeachment? And then they rolled some sound on tape of Nancy Pelosi sand that is not going to be the focus of our caucus. And it doesn't need to be the focus. Let me tell you something first of all in defensive Nancy Pelosi. We'd make fun of Nancy because. Yeah, sometimes we could make fun of. But we make fun of Donald Trump to I make fun of people. My job Nancy is not been a US Senator from California for thirty some odd years because she's stupid. She's not been there because she doesn't know how to play the game. She as a power broker. She knows how to make things happen. That's why I think right now with all of this crap coming out of the left in the Senate, and in the congress people like AFC people like to lead people like Ilan, Omar and all these she's just kind of stay in silent. Everybody's looking at Pelosi thinking, well, she's just kind of backing off because she sees her power slipping. No, no, no, no. She. Is being quiet because she's biding your time just patting them on the head, y'all. Go ahead and say what you gonna say star, your pots do your thing. But she sees it. She knows what's going on in our promise. You Nancy Pelosi. She's not a dumb. She's not a dumb chick. She's just not. She knows how to play this game. So she's absolutely right. When she says why in the world would we as a caucus as deficient as a side of politics. Why would our party go after impeachment when we're going to fail and fail miserable. They already know. They're already know. The Miller report was a farce. They knew it was a hoax. They knew it was not going to lead to anything. I promise you. They knew that. And I know that impeachment proceedings would be the same thing. What are you going to impeach him on they have nothing these got nothing. So to your point is the left divided out divided thirty different ways. Because again, you got the radicals that are out there. You got the socialists, you got the communists. You got the true liberals, the traditional liberals say you got those that are more centrist those that want to get. Something done in Washington. Then you've got some that are just out for themselves or they divided. Yes. Of course, they are divided in you know, that's just the nature of politics. But here's the thing. So Trump comes out says once we're elected in twenty twenty we're going to get something done about healthcare reform. All right. Well, I'm disappointed that they didn't. They didn't do it immediately. Because that right there proves to me that the whole election two thousand sixteen was rigged in favor of Hillary because. They expected her to win. That's why the Republicans did not have anything in place to repeal ObamaCare and put something else in place. They had no plan because they expected it to stay in place because a new Hillary was gonna win then Trump comes in. And they got nothing in that proved everybody made everybody fools. But now Trump is saying, okay, we gotta get reelected twenty twenty two healthcare reform. Everybody wants some form of reform when it comes to healthcare still think they had it's I think they still have nothing. You really do. I really do. I think that right now they need to seriously get on the stick. When it comes to putting something together as a plan Trump because all I've heard him say was it's going to be better than ObamaCare, and it's going to include pre existing condition these secure that border. I because that's what he got. That's what he ran on. That's what he's he. Hey, rental both. Appealed which there's been a repeal and now they've deemed it federal judges of now deemed it unconstitutional. So there is that, but we have nothing in its place. We've got nothing in place for this astronaut Michael healthcare crisis that we have in free health care is not an option. We've talked about that. But yeah, he does he does have to build a wall two hundred seventy two thousand people have been arrested at the border so far this year just in the first quarter of this year, millions of pounds of drugs, untold numbers of human trafficking. And right now, the world of America is worried about avocados because it's going to there's a lot of things that are going to you know, who owns all the avocados in America. Is this like an individual or company, there's two different people? I've heard before is this like magnum PI or some or Tom Selleck I'm selling. Okay. Tom Selleck guest. One is pretty good guests the next one would be. Make salad with Paul Newman or something or all new, okay? That you guys get a little research. Tom Selleck is one of them. But yeah, they they own all the avacado 's in America. So trust me. There's plenty the second one would surprise you. But I lied that. He'll but anyway. Did did you while y'all googling that Candace Google it? So. You'll do every going on here. Did you did you happen to see our local sports caster? Dell hanson's. Opinion on the building the wall are actually just illegal. So just a little so so Dale Hansen. What does it w FAA? So Dale hands. I worked with is a local sports caster affiliate for one of the affiliates that ABC here in Dallas Fort Worth based out of Dallas and Deo kind of gives his little two three minute diatribe on life, and culture and things that are going on in the world of politics and commentary, and this inciteful it's kind of a Paul Harvey esque type deal in front of the camera. But to your point and anybody can Google Dale Hansen and you'll see the one that you're referring to. But he said one recently, what did he say? Well, did you did that we were using a first first century, you know, solution for twenty percent or century problem problem, his all and building a wall and offense. As point was the statue of liberty used to welcome people into the front door. And that was it was it was a way of saying yes to immigrants and now building a wall as a way of saying, no, we're keeping our people in keeping others out. And so we're we're not letting people come in basically the back door. And so this building the wall is an affront to basically, the statue of liberty. Gimme your tired, your poor your huddled masses. Which by the way is not law. It's a poem which sound sweet. But there were a lot of people at Ellis Island in New York when they came in in the eighteen hundreds who were turned away and sent back to their own favor coming through the front door the proper. Yeah, they were through and there still is a a right way to come in. There are people who are surrendering themselves looking for amnesty. Looking for ways to come in at ports? Of injury. But again, my comment when you sent me that link I said, well, Dale, do you close your door on your house? Right. Do you lock the door on your house? But because his his statement was who are we as America to turn anyone away and be so cold hearted? Because if you if any also he did say, if you if let's say that our country was in the same situation as though south of us and Canada did that to you. What would what would you do to cross their border? Anything would you fight? I mean, would you what if you're starving and you're hungry? Are you know, and you're trying to take care of your family and your children, and we were in that situation. That's what we're trying to prevent absolutely. But they would try to prevent it. We were trying to invade Canada. They would. Yeah. If we treat ourselves up like, Mexico and Venezuela, and you know, hundreds and Guatemala have and the number of different places that are down there. Yeah. Mexican country. We. We would try to. But there's a reason we don't because America didn't create that type of mess. We did not put ourselves in that situation. We built something of significance and progress and economic strength, and it is a stable country. And it is I stress the word ache ountry, which means that it has its own borders, which means it has its own sovereignty. And if you lose borders, you lose sovereignty if you lose sovereignty, you lose your nationhood, if you lose your nationhood, you ultimately lose your culture, and you do and I'm not talking about a white black Brown, skin culture. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about eight constitutional culture whereby we all adhere to a same standard and say these are the laws by which we govern our lives, and we value them. This is our value system. It is my right to free speech. It is my right to bear arms. It is my right to protect myself in court. It is my right to vote. It is my and I could go on down the list. It is my right. I think the frustration part for me is that the second that that Dale Hansen put something out there like that insinuates that I'm cold and that I'm not compassionate. And that's very frustrating because I don't feel any of us. I know I'm not that way. You know, I do care. And so because I'm all about a big picture of keeping us safe our country safe that I've seen as a cold hearted who wants to, you know, just close the doors on everybody. And I'm not that way. No, I don't even. But that would that's how that's how I received the information. And I don't, you know, very condescending so day. I'll tell you what I'll offer offer this to you. You can go with Joan airplane anytime, I'll pay for your trip. You go down with me. We'll visit my kids that I support in Nicaragua. Go up into the villages. We'll hang out spend a little time on the bus going up breathing dust and some volcano ash, and we'll go in there. We'll go in those villages, and we'll take them some gifts. We'll take them some money because I support him every month. Give them a whole brand new life. We do that on a monthly basis, and we go down on annual basis to Nicaraguan visit with these kids, I can take you down to earth will do the same thing. We'll fly into goose gala, which is the world's shortest international runway. Only the best pilots in the world can fly in there. You have to literally drop into the mounds or we'll end in San Pedro Soula. If you're well. And then we'll go up into El Progresso, and then we'll go up into the mountains villas, Vince, all those kids will pull teeth. We'll give inoculations we'll do all kinds of deliver babies. You can go with me to Nigeria. We'll go to a bomb show. I spent months at a time over there, and I can tell. If you if you wanna call me less than compassionate because I'm not going to them than that's your own opinion. But I believe the light that shines the farthest away shines the brightest right here at home, and there is no country on the planet that has done more to lift people out of poverty lift people out of broken this lift people out of slavery than America. And you know, what if it wasn't for white folks like us? You'd still have those things going on in this country. So let me tell you something this whole thing about oh. Well, only one point let's go back to a compassionate, America's I know. I know where they arguments come in people say, oh, no. But y'all had slaves and all this only one point six percent of Americans own slaves at the time of the civil one point six percent. That's it. Don't you? Tell me that America's not a compassionate nation. Yes. It has it since. Yes. Got it scars. Yes. It's got things that are going on. Do you realize they were thirty two hundred blacks that own slaves at the time of the civil war shot up with this garbage say, we're not compassionate. We are a compassionate nation. How is it that Donald Trump can say we're going to cut off aid to WADA Malla and all these Central American companies because you get nothing for the caravans. You did nothing to stop. This. You created a humanitarian crisis with your own people by sending them and let them come to the border. These people in the north of Mexico El Paso, if they shut the border down as a national emergency. And Trump is threatened. To do that within days. He said our shut this thing down. He said, I'm not playing games. Do you know what that's going to do? The people living just across the border in Juarez. The people who come in El Paso to buy their groceries to go to work two jobs on their daily visas who come in, and then go back home, you know, and that's going to do for them you're causing innocent people true innocent people to suffer because of this stupid lack of compassion BS that everybody's throwing out. There is an argument that doesn't exist. It doesn't exist. The say that Americans lack compassion to say that ice agents lack compassion say that white people at compassion say a border patrol agents, lack compassion to say that Washington DC lacks compassion, their God, I'll tell you what let's do winter Wilson called us the world police because after World War One we were in a best all over the globe. And let me tell you. It was up to America to make sure that the world didn't fall apart. And by God, that's what we did. And we continue to do it. So if you don't like it, and you don't think we're compassionate. Let's pull every back into the coffers of the Federal Reserve right here in Washington DC unless the world does. Kiss my ass. Deo handsome. Then you're welcome to come on the show. I was just about to send him an Email and ask a lot of editor there know. There is get fired up. The gloves are off follow me on Twitter at watch chedda. You'll see what I'm talking about. But if you don't wanna l tell I'm with you don't that's just another way say, I'm not, right? I just like to. You know, what else you do that? I think is. So compassionate, you give all of your cattle grain. Yes. And I think that's really kind of you first of all let me can we correct something from something that we alluded to on Monday. Let me just say, this is the other asinine thing. Don't feet first of all I don't feed your cattle brain don't feed them grain cattle don't need grain. They need grass. They need they need. They don't need grain. Okay. Give give them something. And I don't don't feed impel it some crap like that. How do you know? Chad don't worry about it. You're not no catalytic converter cata converters. That's what we're going to install them all of our cows bovine beano. So the flatulence from your Cal doesn't kill the ozone. This message brought to you by the Cortes, Nixon news brought to you by. Governor twenty twenty. Fired up Natalie happy happy story, please. Please happy story. Well, I don't we start with Netflix hustle, Joe Biden and Deo Hance creepy and instead again. Oh and Alec Baldwin. He's funny though. You know, what just got great hair plugs? But that doesn't excuse him. My god. I mean, you're you're nationals or flaring happy. Yeah. You have a happy story before we. I do have that. My daughter is going to summit that just means you get to spend more money on cheerleading. Her team got a bit Sean is that. She works gradually works or off that whole team does. And they're the little team that did yesterday Natalie since two art we have a group text message where all on it for the podcast and Natalie since a little video of all these little girls, they could have been four thousand little girls. It looked like Tijuana trying to get across the border. I don't know. It was. It was just nineteen little girls on a team called lava every time somebody would say something, I don't even know what they were saying these kids would just start screaming. And then I was like why did she send me? What is this is what Haiti's Hannah? This isn't a great without Jesus all these little girls, screaming fire and brimstone. Did they win? They did. So now, we're going to Disney I have I just want to make a public service announcement, and I feel like this should be aimed at Candice. Well, how old are you? Kansas twenty three twenty three. Single right. This happen if you days ago, but this one I wanted to I just want to revisit because I didn't get to talk about this in our last newscast. But there was a girl in South Carolina who had called a new Bor or lift or one of those probably because she she'd been partying twenty one. I think South Carolina college student safely wanted to get home and she got into the wrong vehicle and the man murdered her and left her body. And it was found later that is so because you have daughters, you've when you universities in college world. Tragic because it's one of those things where we live in a day and age where you almost have to come up with ways to be safe. Like, you have to think of scenarios that historically here was a girl who's trying to do the right thing to do the safe thing. And this is her name's Samantha Joe's some. Yeah. And so- bless her heart and bless her parents. I mean this and so the encouraging thing not the encouraging thing. But what I encourage you to do it. No matter who you are. Whoever your driver is lift Uber. Whatever make them say your name, make them say their own names license plate. You gotta be very careful check, which one you're getting into Huber all over the country. And you take it for granted. They always they should say your name. They should say their own name the blow picture on Uber. I know is not a very big pictures hard to tell if the person, but you've got four you get in the car out their license plate just do that. Because he's girls. Sometimes you get a little neabry eight or something like that. And you climb thing as you don't say are you here to see Kansas? You say what who are you here to pick up and make them like you said say your name. I just it breaks, my heart. If as soon as my black book gets the always asked me my name. Right. Yes. I am getting your car draft lift don't you? Sean, I should be getting a car. I encouraged girls to travel in packs, just oh, I. Oh, I encourage you to to climate funny. How you get older? You starting singling. Single travel like I'm trying to pick this travel impacts. Yes. For the single. It was really sad. Because it was they figured out. It was because of child logs that she wasn't able she couldn't get out out of the back seat. And when you think about that, it's like in that moment. What can you do? He knew what he was doing. He knew what he was doing. It's being alert and is being be very cautious my stepdaughter. She takes everywhere we go and every time I get a call me right away. Like, she's seventeen like semi to pitch in a car. So me where you are. Let's have a couple as where I could actually see her phone travel, stepdaughter. Yes. Fell asleep in the car, and he took her phone. Do you never know what happened in that car? Yeah. It doesn't matter. He picked her up. I think his intent was he was probably was he was trolling that area and just waiting for somebody to get in. Yeah. So be careful if you have your license to carry just carry on your person. Well, I've got a friend whose brother got shot in an Uber. Last year got into an argument with he was out of his mind, and you know, just gone to his fault. Then got into a fight with Uber driver, and the Uber driver which drivers are not supposed to carry anything any weapons, but he was carrying and shot him twice. Yeah. Essay licensed to carry. But she was probably in a bar. Can't can't right. You carry an in a bar, and you shouldn't you know? That's why don't go to bars, right? Here's to you twenty two. We just hang out studio. Twenty two it's bought it too. Up on time. Fire the guns. My goodness anything crazy anything else. When you talk about before we get out of here. Candice. I feel like we're fairly covered were there. I think their I wanna courage everybody to we've got so many things happen. So many fun things that are happening. And this, of course, as you as we've told you over and over again, we're kind of in our studio twenty two right now, this is this baby studio twenty two we're building out the new studio and moving things on up. I have not for those of you wanna know about truck videos. I haven't had a truck for two months because the folks that road armor, a rebuilding. It should have it in the next week or two two weeks probably month. Probably. But the folks that road armor, building it out is is going to be a great looking truck. So I haven't been able to haven't had a truck in. I don't put the dog in the car. And then you give me a hard time. You're like you fake ass. Cowboy your car you born in New Jersey? He'll billy. Yeah. That's me. But we got a lot going on. I want you to find this out on the road. I want you to go to blaze TV dot com slash humor. And get humor me boozy, Sean and metro Jason or the great producers on that. I hope you're joined some of the characters like trigger to Bose uncle Larry and. Reverend swindle. I watched a new clip of an upcoming episode. We've got an episode coming out tonight right now, if you're watching this you can go you can go get on watch tonight's episode of humor me, we did a very lighthearted. But honest, look at the subject of depression. It's very real. You've heard us talk about it with Jeff Kyle. You've heard us talk about it with Jacob Schick, all these different guys that are out there, but depression affect so many people watched the episode, and we got a fun little clip of the Reverend swindle. I'm sorry. My my mom hates when I do Reverend swindle. She hates when I do reverence window because she thinks making fun. It makes me a little nervous. Yeah. Well, I am making fun of. The pearly gates, and they say you remember Reverend swindle. Say come on. He's already have here. Well, that that triggered to bow. I'm kind of like. Yeah. Dad? We right in there hunting. In. Turn a fan girl. I'll be right in there. TV growing about here. Our conversations. As Cory Booker would say bye. Chad braid their show on blaze TV, get it. Get it all take us up the number one scroll. Joe rogan? Who exactly I love y'all. God bless you will see next time.

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RD - Ghislaine Chapo, Trump's Taxes & People Will Do What They Do

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RD - Ghislaine Chapo, Trump's Taxes & People Will Do What They Do

"Thanks for listening to reasonable doubt. On podcast one. Well action packed show. What much more show than you guys even deserve is. Delivered today with lots of as interesting Epstein stuff, and and I do mean it. Mark that. That that, we do a little drill down on the d'alene Maxwell thing and mark brings up some very interesting points. It's just the kind of thing you. You will not see on the evening news with the pundits talking about it, so we got that I. I'll tell you about Tommy John. The secret to staying sweat free this summer Tommy John Already ultra. breathable underwear and bras cool cotton underwear for men, and for women like having your own on body. AC unit made up from premium natural pima cotton for enhanced airflow to operate sweat super fast, and they have lounge pants and loungewear Lazy Day joggers. Soft Zoom Ready Tees, and Polos upgrade to Tommy John, today the enhanced super breathable designs. This stuff is the best. 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So I was talking to mark off the air so much get to with the Golan Maxwell, and in the trump and the taxes and save Berman's testimony, I mean this is a wealth of information tax. Go taxes I because I've got. Well I don't I. Don't know anything about the law, but that that's helpful. Sometimes my take on it is your taxes are kind of between you and the IRS. If the IRS isn't flagging you or auditing you or or whatever in you, then that's the relationship you have with the government. And your taxes and Getting going beyond that is now a sort of I dunno enhanced scrutiny that you know I look at the president's the presence, the president, but also looking at as an American and also bigger picture. Start thinking to myself with all the scrutiny that we're putting everyone through, and all the sifting through the past and God knows who has a yearbook picture with them and black face or something from nineteen eighty-one. It's GonNa. Prevent a lot of decent people from wanting to even participate you know there's a lot of people who may have formerly made good presidents or good politicians who are successful business, people or whomever, but they're also aware there's a couple of things floating around in the past. and. I think it's going to prevent a lot of them from throwing their hat in the ring. 'cause I the. That's where you went. Because I would you know there was a pair of opinions yesterday both seven to although the takeaway from that from both opinions US Supreme Court. Was that the? Trump and bar had taken the position bar is a believer in what's called the unitary executive that basically the president has absolute immunity for when he's the for anything he does while in office that the the argument is is that you cannot come after criminally civilly or anything else flies in the face by the way of the Jones Clinton case. Where Paula Jones was suing Bill Clinton in the US Supreme. Court said civil case you could deal with it. The interesting thing about these two decisions is the one that got traction with the US Supreme. Court was the subpoena from a state grand jury. The Manhattan grand jury which is investigating things that were done pre. Before he was president, and specifically whether or not he had paid off and deducted the funds that he paid to stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal and how he reported that so that's kind of interesting to be because that is. You would think somewhat far afield. And Congress's subpoenas. Got Nowhere I mean they. They were the Supreme Court said and I think there's a pretty good argument that they were probably right that the subpoenas themselves were too expensive and I was thinking to myself. You know what's interesting for everything that people have speculated about what's in his tax returns. Does he have loans? You know with Russian oligarchs does he have? Is He servicing the debt? Know massive debt from Saudi Arabia or via Deutsche Bank, where Deutsche Bank was doing their private wealth connections. It's interesting to me that that those subpoenas are to overbroad where you've got something that would directly impact foreign policy yet whether he paid. A stripper to keep quiet for and by the way mixed motivations. Did you want the not to find out about it, or did you because of the election or was it a combination of the two that one and you know I I was not surprised. I thought this is the way the US Supreme. Court would rule, but people now are speculating and I was watching yesterday that he will run out the clock, because both of these ordered back down, go down. Down to the trial court I don't think he's going to be able to run out the clock. Let me get your reaction. I'll tell you why. Because that's what I heard. Yeah, well what they didn't want the and I didn't see anybody talking about this yesterday. The grand jury subpoenas a criminal subpoena, and it was not directed at him. It was directed at Deutsche. Bank was directed at various organizations. Organizations of that he does business with well. Guess what you can also do. If now they've got an opinion that says the grand jury subpoenas. Good enough well. Why can't they just issue a search warrant on these third parties for the tax returns and have them? They could get in four days. Nobody's going to wash that warrant. I was just in the appellate. Department here in California yesterday arguing. Arguing a case, it's clear settled. Law that under California. Supreme Court I've done the research in. New York state corporate I can't imagine it's any different fact. I would bet it's not you don't get immunity from an from an arrest or execution of a search warrant. If somebody wants to, for instance the state of the long, California's if a search warrant is issued on somebody who's compassionate marijuana provider. If you've got all the licensing and they come in, and they're searching your your dispensary if you show them. You Got Licensing, doesn't you? Don't have immunity there. You can raise it by way of emotion later on to suppress, but you don't get immunity from a search or immunity from arrest so interestingly I think the Manhattan da could be playing. Possibly get some very smart people there. They could just be saying okay. US Supreme Court has said you don't have absolute immunity number one from criminal investigation number two set. Our subpoena was fair game We're not gonNA. Wait around and have you dilly dally on the subpoena. We're just GONNA execute a search warrant on the third parties. I also feel would us by the way they did on Michael Cohen, so Oh, yeah, I see back in yeah I believe Gary as of yesterday the day before I generally would not go, and it's interesting because somebody had asked me to invest in that very restaurant within the three weeks I wouldn't go to probably the most Paparazzi Yo ever since now, oh got kicked out of his own restaurant. This place has taken over as the. Latter Nello had on the upper east side was probably the place. But Nello mellows no longer Nello what Yeah, so I guess the question is. Why would he do that? I mean knowing what he knows or not. Knowing I can never. I can't figure out people's motives. A lot of the time always had this theory sort of with love line when. My boyfriend was cheating on me. How'd you find out he you know? He left his phone on my nightstand and it was open to the tax, and he doesn't have a password and I woke up and it was there and I could see that he was and like he wanted to break up. He doesn't you? Don't that's him? That's him. And self-inflicted. Maybe! He don't want to admit it. Maybe he didn't WANNA. Bring up would have been unconsciously. He wanted out when the left the phone on your nightstand, and so going to a place when you're under house arrest and you and it's an it's well populated with `Paparazzi. Eating Al Fresco out on the. Terrorists. By the way, it's not like he doesn't realize. How many times can you play back in your brain? The number of pictures of him sitting outside with his. Prior to him going into custody at some other alfresco place, smoking cigars in New York right so back to the trump thing the other thing that the trump feels like and. It's it. It'll be. It'll sound political, but I. It's not really meant to be political, which is a sort of hectoring I feel like it's just a constant hectoring. This and now show us that we need this, and it's all so important when it's not really that important in the sense that nobody I feel like the first things I. If you got anyone's tax returns, who owned twenty eight casinos and Fletcher Golf Resorts you're GONNA find a ton of Shit on there that you're going to cry foul about, and it's going to sound horrible. You know what he what he did and he did it to and. That's the name of the game and in the tax world if you own a bunch of businesses and somebody wants to go through them, and they go through with mindset, like are substitutes schoolteacher. Look at this guy's writing off. swizzle sticks casino mine after by my own supplies. And I can't even. You cannot look at through through that my feeling is. Anybody who makes more than a million bucks a year and owns more than five businesses would fall under the same sort of problem. If you're looking for trouble, you shall find it and those tax returns now. Some stuff's more grievous than others, but my feeling is. Let the IRS look at it feels like it's a nonstop hectoring I guess I would that's politics I know it. Yeah, and that's Paul Dresser. I've said it one hundred times. Maybe a thousand times on this show Bill Clinton in the Whitewater proctology exam. Which I know firsthand from Susan I it was astonishing to me what the independent counsel was doing what they were looking for in the constant. There's all I get always look I would. I would feel the exact same way if they're doing it to President Obama. Just like just leave the guy alone. Go beat him on policy. Part of what you, the law of unintended consequences is that you get people like Obama? Who are have no business interests so to speak. You know that's why Biden the only thing they've tried to do with him is to tag him with his son because Biden's net worth. He's probably the only politician I've ever seen. Who in forty years of public services worth. Less than a million bucks meanwhile, so that's what that's what it's GonNa do it's going to attract career politicians and take guys who've run businesses and essentially. Push them out of the circle because they're not going to want to deal with that. It's very difficult to deal with it and the anti the way whatever tiptoe the the lawsuit from discrimination from the employees from eight years ago. It's all it's all going to look shitty well. I mean I look at Bloomberg. I can't tell you as useless. Bloomberg with the GAG orders. You just let them talk with the GAG. please. You live in this weird bobble. Of politics and everyone else has to go out there and fucking do battle with you guys with attorneys and with municipalities, and we're fighting for our lives, so don't give us that, aren't you? Lily white like us because we have to go do business I was telling one of the lawyers in the office. Last week and I think I was mentioning it here. I do not know how most people who what what are traditionally called mom and pop businesses I. Don't know how they stay in business I don't know how they survive this pandemic, I really don't I the the number of hurdles that you after run through in God, forbid p. We went for. Funds I had, I assigned to lawyers to to deal with compliance and understanding it. I spent last night looking at it to figure out what I can do, what I can't do what you gotta spend it on I'm spent I've got an accountant looks at this stuff. You've got people who then then you get sued by lawyers who want to allege the two years ago. Some drunken guy that I. Didn't get paid as overtime. You know Blah Blah Blah I and and you can't afford employment black practices insurance if you're a small company. You, and then there's a retention meaning a deductible a fifty thousand dollars. How does somebody stay in business one minute? You're open the next minute. You're not then when you open back up. You've got a hotdog truck in front of Your Business, or you got a Taco truck in front of your business whose not paying any rent? I don't know how guys stay in. Business I was walking downtown this morning. And still the place where Primo used to be boarded up the place where limericks is closed down the place where the Joey's? They just have you know they must have spent six or seven million bucks on that place at the block? That place is now just the front is open. RENAE I'm keeping it open, but it's losing money hand over fist engine company at least through. Other ingenuity were keeping afloat. There's I. Don't know how you do it I. Don't know how a small business stays in business. It's impossible while it's funny. I was screaming at the TV set a couple of days ago because. Gary maybe confined Nancy Pelosi and her statue. Saying Chris actually locks on already. Cut It up I think you might be able to get it from him, but. The what I've really been drilling down on certain fundamentally, and talked about it here, talking about on Tucker talking about everywhere, which is this crazy chasm between what the city expects out of taxpayers, Law abiding citizens, and then there's sort of everyone else. and. I'm not even paraphrasing. Somebody said to Nancy Pelosi like. All these people just tearing down statues. I'm not interested in statue like we right, but she's interested in towel bars in your fucking handicapped. Stall of your bathroom. Otherwise, you're going to be taken to jail, right? So, what do you mean you're not interested? You're not interested handicap ramps and you're very interested whenever I do a building project you've got. You're very interested in me. Putting chain link fences around oak trees at a billy goat couldn't fuck and climb to that. Express immense interest in supreme interest in that, and then so she goes about issues on that interested in in Tehran I'm not interested in statues, and thankfully, at least a reporter followed up and said well okay, but if they're going to be taken down, shouldn't there be done in orderly way like a an ordinance vote? You know a time, a guy with a hard hat. A crew just just torn down, just torn down by an angry mob and she said. People are GonNa do what they do. But I have a fucking beer on the beach. Other file it under. That's what I do. Man The problem with your half. Gary has this fraud criminal, law, and I think you can find it today. which is the book end to your argument is if the vandalizing of statues and by the way I, don't you know somebody invoked? It's funny the other day. Kaley mcnerney, said something about you know. They're facing the Armenian genocide memorial in Colorado. When she was talking about it. Is that what we're gonNA ethnic cleansing I wasn't really. Have a Lotta Turkish. Speaking near the Turkish demographic, so then all the sudden, the Armenian the die aspirin lobby was like look. The White House is signaling. That they. They'RE GONNA fall in line with Congress. I kept saying to myself God you guys are so You're so pollyanna. Shoes have such a childlike naive. It's she just was trying to cite something. And that's the first thing that popped into her head and insured if they clarified within a day or two, but. The problem with this is and with using the criminal law if you're GONNA say that it's okay to topple statute. which that's fine. That's your policy then you can't criminalize which just happened today? I believe painting over black lives matters because then you're doing is that's a violation by the way of equal protection. If you're going to say hey, they're hitting them with a hate crime. Yeah, right, but this is. That's the consisted I don't. Don't mind. I don't mind if you're going to bludgeon people with the Criminal Law. I, actually when they everybody talked about defunding police, I said. Why are you put it on the port? Police de-fund the prosecution. If you would just de fund the prosecution, then you would really solve all these problems in a moment and bake them force them to be on a budget. Just force them to be on a budget. You would never see. Imagine. The guy comes in and says hey Great Five Deputy Da Adam. Corolla I WANNA file hate crime charges because they painted over black lives matters and you say to them whoa wait. Is that GONNA cost us well? You know it doesn't matter. We've got to send a message. You say well, did you top? Did we file a hate crime on the statue? Note, we didn't well. What if the defense lawyer brings up this thing called equal protection, and and that I'm somehow I'm prosecuting only crimes that I don't like is when this the same acts Oh that you know. We're not GONNA get you really want to litigate that all the way to the cow, Supreme Court yet because we've got an unlimited budget, why not do it not only on a limited budget, but what other? What other sort of insidious part of this is unlimited time so everyone else's a fucking job and to take time off to show up into meet with lawyers and to come to the. Courthouse the facility whatever they have to do. You have to stop doing what you do. They do it full time. They're going to be there anyway. Right so it's like who who cares freeing the mountain to Mohammed. They don't care about the budget and that's their job. They're there anyway. They'll prosecute your prosecute her I you know, and they're there for everyone else. That's a big life. Interrupt her, and how about the insanity of re? Everybody says we follow the science. We follow the science. We've closed the beaches. Because, we just closed the last weekend or thing again. By the way, people are not. Paying attention anymore. down. We close people. The mayor is saying well people. Aren't you know they're congregating? They're getting too close to doing. Whatever and I'm about to close La down well. Guess where I was yesterday yesterday morning I was I had to go. This I just kind of mentioned it, but you gotta understand the idiocy of this I have a client who has a dispensary. We got the case dismissed okay, because he was what? was back then called Prop de complaint he'd paid his taxes. He had a permit. They went and got a search warrant. They didn't. They'd never bothered to tell the judge. Who issued the search warrant that it was a guy who was paying his taxes had a licensing was operating dispensary. They just told the judge wish the search warrant. Hey, this guy is selling marijuana from this location you know. Know we need to search warrant. Go in. They do it and so yesterday. The city attorney mind you even though since this case has been dismissed not once, but twice the voters have passed a more regulation say or more on initiative saying. Stop prosecuting this stuff now he's taking it on appeal. I have to go into the courthouse downtown yesterday. Go through the metal detector waiting in line. With. with a teeming masses of people in there while you wear your mask to go into a courtroom, my job is a misdemeanor case that was dismissed of selling marijuana when the guy was licensed, Texas, argue with three judges who were sitting there who had given a tentative ruling that they were going to reverse this case and I and I had to point out to the. The three judge I haven't seen their opinion yet, but they're tentative was against us and their tentative I point out the judge you site near tend to hearing a court of Appeals case. It's Great Court of Appeals Cases Only. One problem, the Supreme Court three months after that ruled, and and said that I could bring this motion pretrial. I didn't have to wait for trial. What here that then, I wouldn't you be insulted if you were a judge? And somebody came to you and said a Ha I'm a detective and I've done some research and there's they're selling oxycontin on van. Nuys Boulevard. and. People are buying it and I confronted people who had bought the pills from this location, and you a search warrant, and then you found out once. You got the court that it was Sherman. Oaks Pharmacy and it was licensed by the pharmacy. Board and they had prescriptions and they didn't tell you. That wouldn't be little pissed if you're the judge, wouldn't you say why are you clogging to my court? Identical to this situation and their polling lawyers in in judges are sitting on a bench, three judges, not one three, the appellate department in order to decide this idiotic case, which by all accounts looks like it's GonNa. Be Reversed. Back onto that Hellhole in department, six in East La, which is also teaming with. Yeah I. that's that is the city La city attorney, which by the way reports to the La city mayor who was Eric Garcetti? Who's talking about shutting the city down? That's the name of the this I was interviewing. Danny trae Ho couple days back for my show. Net, Danny. T and he was talking about his assistant who? Talk about sort of what I was hearing your voice. Screaming in my ear the whole time his assistant got somebody like I dunno, t. bone or something, and the got out of the car, and they said all right. We have to exchange information or something and the guy said I. Don't want to exchange information I'll give you five hundred bucks. And he said five hundred bucks, not going to be not. That's not gonNA. Cover my deductible and the guy went well. Take the five hundred because I'm leaving and TRAE. Hose Guy Detained Him I. Don't know if he had a gun I. Don't. Don't know what did, but he said you're not going anywhere. I'm call. Mukasey dating a guy I can only imagine what the guy looked at the guy basically said now now that we're exchanging information if you're not going to give me your information, whatever you're giving me, not going to cover the cost of repair so I'm going to hold you here and I'm GonNa, call the cops and that he did, and then the cop showed up, and then they rested trae host, assistant for kidnapping, and like and like armed assault or whatever false. Went right through the system and then. Forty grand later, the attorney they wanted to retry the thing and then the guy's. You know basically the. The attorney. The prosecuting attorney's just going look. I'm going to go retry. Sing again when you got another forty grand. You want to pay your attorney or do you want to just settle like you WanNa? Play out example plea out, and it will have it on his record that you know aggravated. Assault really. That's your system. That were. It is every time. Somebody says it's the best system in the world I said in the world is. Is Is, is, horrible place. The our criminal justice system is so fucked up so broken beyond repair. I can't even tell you. The cops are the privates. The foot soldiers out on the battlefield. Let's focus on the generals and the president's when the guys out on the street. If you it's for so many years forty years. When people have talked about I mean this is only this is the only way that this could have evolved. Of course, this evolved to this point, and what has happened in why people are in the streets. I've always wondered why they weren't in the streets thirty years ago. Because if it were me, if if I was in there I'd be screaming at him I've never understood why. Why clashes just sit there when guys are, judges are running roughshod over him, I saying fuck you. Why would you blah usually? Give me a life sentence. What the matter with you? Why do you sit there and do? Why do you get the cops? They just think about what happens. The cops get there cue from the prosecutors. They know what's a case it's going to has. Legs and what doesn't have legs? It's not like they're out there. Inventing the law. They know what the law is by what they're told, and that's why the prosecutors can solve this problem. Gary you have the. Pelosi clip which. She, she does something that is off putting to me, oftentimes which she certa flippant about things. She gets a little annoyed that you ask questions I think that's her age. Okay, because I get I get I think by if God I. Hope I lived. How old is she? Is She eighty? She's eighty. Yeah I. Mean I noticed I? Don't know if you notice suspect as you get older, don't you get more impatient? Yes, but I mean you just can't suffer people now I get it, but I wouldn't be annoyed at legitimate questions I get annoyed that dumb question, Sarka! Obviously. You're very. Confederate statues, but involves Baltimore little, Italy the Statute Christopher Columbus was removed or taken down, and I wanted to have a new. Job Well I'm not a you know, I don't even have my grandmother's earrings. I'm not a big. Let's see what we have. In terms of monuments in us to community doesn't want the statue there. The statue shouldn't eat their. Mission, under the City Council. In the middle of the for. WHAT THEY DO! It's so funny. About, we do what we WANNA, do on the fucking beach then pitch. How about I just go the fucking beach? If we're a look under your orders of US doing way, we do what we do. You get upset over that I think that's entertaining. I find it entertaining. My problem is. I got to delay that one more time for. Big Why do I have to deal with department and Building Safety? If under your regime, people are just got to do what they do. Why can't I just put a fucking second story in my house? Close by the way this. Statue there. For. A second let me. Is there any more dangerous than tearing down giant bronze monolith in the middle of the night while you're underneath it? If it was Turk, I would probably do it myself. Look, we have helmet laws and you're not allowed to do what you do. You can't get on a fucking vespas without a helmet at this head on down the street. You'll get it. Just see you this. That's the one part where we differ. 'cause I look at her. Saying that and it just cracks me up I love I. Know It I. I find the humor in it as well. Do you know what is to reminds me of reminds me of Scalia once when somebody confronted him in some interview and I, I used to have it on my wall, and Scalia was they were talking about the fact that he had said something at one point and. That was then this is now. Here's I guess my thing is i. find it entertaining feeling is. I know you don't want to say anything negative about the people tearing down the statues constituency. have to feign interest as a leader for safety. You know the feign like you go I. Don't condone that and if anyone is thinking about doing that, they should stop and take. They started to get at the point that I really wanted somebody to drill down on which she is Italian. She not her right her. Dan Dedicated a few stan why I was Gonna say her that's. Could you read my mind? Her Dad was mayor was not I, didn't her dad? I thought her dad was the guy who was instrumental in the celebration. Of Christopher Columbus Dad probably serve christened if if the lack of a better term is at the ceremony, problem seemed. I Never Columbus a couple of statues in Philadelphia or Baltimore I thought it was Baltimore and. The reason I got. This memory is my buddy from Cleveland used to talk very fondly about her father and his role in you know 'cause. I don't know if they've got anymore in Cleveland. They have a Columbus. Day Parade, which just unbelievable I it's It's a it's an event. They closed on the streets. They marched through on Columbus Day holiday that rivals the fourth of July well, it's now problematic. Is it again just that her? Because it's fun real quick. Let me just button up in two thousand seventeen. It was noted that her father dedicated the stonewall Jackson and Robert e Lee Monument as mayor of Baltimore Alongside governor then governor. Matic yeah, I'm going to visit the sins of the father and daughter Tenny can appreciate that. Just want the end. To community doesn't want the statue there statue shouldn't be. That'd. Mission under the city. Council Mall in the middle of the night for. What they do. Have Corner that's. How motion on motions that I usually like to get little quotes and start a prologue. That's going to be my new prologue on any vandalism case. Should it be about mobs? People are going to do with. Mob in the middle of the night, throwing the statue in the river. People are going to do what they're gonNA. Do that's a city official? Official. Line. Line that the city official I'm thinking of was. There's another. Disease Gary, there's one that I pulled out from like three and a half years ago. And it was. The LA was out front of a restaurant. Out Front of Swanky restaurant and he's. A man of color, but he he's. Pretty Mixed, and he was like the L., A. City police chief, but the commissioner of police. Police Commission a some version of that like a civilian in. Hollywood boulevard, coming out of yeah, I think he's coming out of BOA or something. And somebody said to him They desecrated trump's star with a pickaxe. What do you think? And we'll hear his answer. Again it's not. That I gotta come on here for my next via I'M GONNA. Take it into next vandalism case comes into the office. I've been taking pro bono. I, just love 'cause. I I just love the idea of the equal protection, and that I've got you know there's an advice a council defenses will be the advice of legislation. That's the legislative intent. People are GonNa do with people who are going to do. Is Wait a second. We got this statue. It's a criminal offense. The van lie something they. GonNa do go to. That's right up there with it is what it is really hard to argue with. That was then this is now. I don't know why veterans. It just reminds me of some guy. Sitting in Iraqi Journal, people are GonNa do. Yeah it was a again I again. I'm completely and utterly fine with that. If you then apply that to me walking on the beach with a beer or how about when I'm walking in in the morning around, and Yada on the Horse, trail when the horse trails supposedly close because they're worried that there's going to be just doing what you're GonNa I. People are going to do what they're gonNa do that's that's what happens i. Find that what you guys. Are you having? We'll talk about d'alene Maxwell. Let's go back to that because also what happened this week is. Jerry Nadler. Your favorite congressman came out. Jeff's Berman. Who was the? US Attorney for the southern. District of New York, who was fired slash resigned. He actually was fired by Bill Bar and about three weeks ago. I think Gary corrected me about a week ago, and he was called to testify in front of Congress. It wasn't a closed session, but they haven't released the transcript yet. So I'm were as we sit here. Maybe they released the today, but as of last night they had, but what was being said is he was making an accusation? He Jeff Berman was making a testifying. The Bar kept saying I'm going to give you a job as head of civil at DOJ. The head of the SEC I watch out of the southern district. We want to put somebody else in there. He said No. I'm worried about the integrity of the investigations it's that's that was then obviously. What happens is Berman. kind of stood his ground Audrey Strauss became the acting, and then we know that Maxwell was arrested. Is that the reason that bar was trying to replace him. I think you could make that. You could make that that a lot of people said no because of trump investigations at the southern district. It seems to me that that is not a coincidence that. The, Jeff Burman they try to pull out and then within a very short period of time Audrey. Strauss announces that she's a resting in prosecuting. Agila Maxwell I think that those two are connected idol by the fact that that was a coincidence. What say you? Why was she in the country? She has passports and she's apparently multiple passports for multiple countries. So why was she in the country? And interests along that they know where she was. They always kind of know where she wa. They were following her newer. She was the Paparazzi newer. She was an apparently she added LLC purchased the hundred and fifty six acre. Property up in the northeast. The interesting thing also about this case since last week is, she is hired as her defense lawyer. The gentleman, who was the prosecutor against Al, Chapel now people will I know that there are a lot of people who think when you hire a ex assistant United States. Attorney. They know the secret handshake, and that's going to get you some, but generally what happens are those. It's very rare for an ex. United States assistant to make a really smooth transition to defense in terms of being a trial lawyer, what they generally do as they go to a big firm where they go to a large firm, and they become they specialize in investigations or white collar crime as they say, but white collar crime is generally not the there's people have written books the there is no such thing as the federal jury trial anymore. It's rare than than finding A. Why have. I think because she's cooperating I. Think picked him. She wants somebody he was. He was at the southern. District, I think maybe Gary I'll find so you now think she's cooperating based on I. Don't know anything other than putting connecting dots here now. You know as a very experienced attorney that if you're going to get ready to do battle, then you might want this guy. Chris Farrell Christian ever del correct. That's An and if you're getting ready to cooperate, you might want to look. It's like they're all dogs and hunting and fishing. You WanNa one. That's a water dog. 'cause you shooting doc shooting. It gives you WANNA bloodhound. Trying to catch a Fox or whatever you know, it's like they're all dogs. Do Different things, and if somebody said he's got a Labrador, you go duck, hunting and I I'm not saying what I'm doing. It's like yeah, but you're not chasing a Fox with the Labrador so like there's different applications for different attorneys absolutely, and and she's smart enough and savvy enough, and she's had enough time in the crosshairs. which goes back to your question? Why didn't she flees? She obviously didn't. She thinks she's either got enough of a defense. which I don't think is the case. Because if she was going to fight this, this would not have been now. She's pick so she. Will you tell me? She? Evidently has the same stuff that Epstein has in his vault. She possesses much of the same material or copies of the material. She also has a I. A has a front row seats. If not a participant, if you believe everything that's being reported. Right. Now that can be. That can be her. What do they say composing to get off which is fine? It's better to have videotapes and shit like. or if you can explain or point to where there is other corroborating evidence, right? Look at a flight manifest and say this happened. This happened this happened in Thai and connect the dots, so it's invaluable. Prosecutor she's feeling like she has a get out of jail. Free Card literally with her information her in for look the what. The federal system works. Is they always want to roll up? That's right. Yeah, sure I. Mean They WanNa go after dignitaries and presidents and princes and things like that so? She pleases. She feels like she has such a cache of information and or documentation that she's never going to spend any substantial time in prison, and thus she does not have to flee just. To be. So she gets an attorney that would facilitate that direction versus we're GONNA fight to the death for your innocence, and we're not rolling over on anybody. Direction I'm in the. Normally People. Who are sophisticated and she is very sophisticated by all accounts. She knows how valuable her information her proposed testimony. Her proffer could be and she somebody who speaks the same language as the SDN Y and she's got somebody who's coming off of a high profile prosecution in win, although I always say, I could have sent Kaelin into prosecute El Chapo, and he would have probably brought the jury in about the same amount of time while they. Insult you Kayla. Was So. She's not going to enter. She's not going to enter this agreement without knowing. She has a storage container full of super. Damning, Shit that the feds want. That's going to get her to she she she has beads to trade and I'm sure that they aren't here. You know when you say. Why didn't she flee? She probably has whatever things that she thinks are going to be helpful. My guests are held in places. That will never be found absent her saying something. Right so and the idea. It'll be very interesting to see the unfolding of whether she remains in custody doesn't remain in custody whether the government cooperates or agrees whether they seek attention. There's a lot of clues that we're going to get based on what ends up happening with the government. Would would she be looking at potentially no time with all them for if she gives him enough info, or does she? She have to get some accessory something than to send to some women's Country Club. Part of what she is going to be. We part of what will happen is they're doing the dance right now? On detention and Gary as were speaking. She still in custody, and there's a hearing what day if it's not today, it's Monday I believe, and that will make a big difference into. How fast the salt works if she gets released. This isn't going to be as fast a process as if she's in why. People have a motivation once during custody to to get cut out today. How to get out of custody. I used to say I. People would plead virtually anything. I took it out. Then what what do you? She's on suicide watch or she on. Don't let someone commits suicide for her watch. This articles a little vague. It says next week's detention. Hearing it New, York, so I'm not sure if that's Monday, or maybe some middle I guess my guess would be. They'll probably put I think that's awesome where we'd be Monday which he'd have to be if she was led out of custody, she'd have to have protection. And I think what they would probably proposed. My guests I'll give coming attraction. They will propose that she has wears an ankle monitor that she's on home arrest and that she has a Gar- around the clock guard. Is, New York that happens more often than other places. This next article that I found says that scheduled for Tuesday afternoon one PM presumably New York time. Yeah, the that makes see. You could tell if she wanted to fight this. If she was going to fight this, she would pick you know. I've talked about him before. One of my closest friends in the world's Bent Bronfman who works with a tenny works for or Mark Ruffalo. WHO's Ben's partner? Those are the kind of guys that you would pick who you that would send a signal. That would say you know I'm GonNa, fight this case Sir. You gotTA. You gotTA come to? The prosecutor knows they're in for a battle, and so they're going to have to make that decision. They're doing the same calibration. Don't get me wrong. The prosecutors, the US attorneys who are assigned to this case are making that same calibration oh. This is who she hired. This is telegraphing this. There's a dance that goes on. Oh Yeah. I mean and also the people that May. Be outed by this Clinton or trump are prince, whoever whomever whatever those guys also have to be aware of who she chose is a lawyer, and what the implications of that as well and the handicapping things already begun I mean there is a list you can see it. On the Internet of twelve people who are presumably named that she could cooperate on and very kind of high profile, people people always focus on the trump, and the Clinton or the prince. Andrew obviously because those are big names I just think that there's something that she has. That has sent some kind of shiver in the to bar. I. Don't know whether you know as we mentioned before bars. Dad was the headmaster where he first got his first job were Epstein did. And I just don't know. What else is it? Play there, I don't know what else is it play with trump? But there certainly if this if she was rolling on Clinton or there was some fear of that, you certainly wouldn't try to get Berman Outta off the chessboard. That doesn't make any sense I. The only reason you get Berman off the chessboard is if you believe either this prosecution or some other investigation that the SDN wise doing is. is going to be compromised compromising to trump now given what happened yesterday. Yesterday. The Manhattan Da seems to me to be of a lot more fear to trump than the SDN. Why or the Kung? Congressional subpoenas and as the NY is not apparently in the mix trying to challenge anything. We're not getting any material, so it doesn't appear that it's a direct SDN. Why trump investigation that they're worried about. It appears to me that it's a maxwell investigation and what Maxwell might say that they're worried about. That's I wish I had more inside information, but I'll tell you. That's the if you're GONNA speculate. The DOTS. That's the only thing at this point that makes sense Gary has the tape of match Johnson President of the L. A. Police Commission we should. Get Him and Pelosi together to really clean up this town, mafe. Is like three years ago or something? I do. What. What do you think about the ongoing defacing of Donald Trump? Star fame I'm in favor of it. Do you think maybe they should just remove the stars becoming his favorite. Stop. Great Hey, thank you very much have a good night. Guys are going down to Hollywood boulevard with pickaxes. In favor of it matters a great guy. I know is. I'm trying anything. It's mad as Kevin Smith. Have a star on the walk of fame. I'm trying to think of people I don't enjoy not that I know of Lena Dunham Fan. She have one out there. What if you would've some night I don't like Casey case in that much. Sorry Mark. Just, not a fan. It wasn't his top forties. Scooby dooby voice I. Don't appreciate Smith Does does well. They're good. I'm just GONNA. Head out with a pickaxe an attack it. Marks earlier, our good friends at bet online actually have odds on the first person that Maxwell's going to name. In a bid out of prison, so Bill Clinton is actually at the bottom of that list plus one thousand number, one plus two hundred is Glenn Dubin yeah well Glenn Dubin is everybody is, says Glenn, do you WanNa give the background undo, but in his wife Clinton. Never heard of a lot of these aren't going to be just powerful people we've never. been and his wife, our heavy hitters and DUBIN has apparently everybody keeps talking about you know the the unspoken thing is that's who I would have guessed if I could have remembered his name, but who are the names before we get to someone whose name we recognize Gary. There's only one more before you get to someone you'd recognize. And that is, and I could be permits pronouncing. Who'd Barak Yeah? That's the Israeli former prime minister, and then who do we who the names we recognize the next to I. Think you'll at least next to. You'll recognize Prince Andrew and Alan Dershowitz. Or, Schuette Dershowitz show, which has called publicly for tapes to be released and said that he will waive his privacy rights. Send me I mean to me. That means he's not worried. You went on twitter, and just basically I hereby I, I've had conversations with Allen about this. Should we get Alanon? I would love to get out on Eric. There's something. So he kind of He's, he is as convincing as persuasive and I've known him for many years. I'M A. Dershowitz I. Think has had a storied career and if you talk to him about this for twenty minutes, I'd love to hear. You have a conversation without well. I'm kind of curious. Because he was a darling of the progressive movement, and then at some point, he started drifting over and again. I don't think he moved. I think he he's a libertarian I think. The leftist movement got so far left and cancel culture and stuff like that that he started pushing back against it, and when he calls Gary Remember because I'm GonNa. Tell him that I'm going to say the same thing because I feel there are certain. Certain similarities although I watched him do a C.. Span Book Review of his latest book, and at the very any slams Jesse small at insult. Last time I talked to him I said you know I was with you the whole way until that I said you. You don't know anything. You've never talked to me about the case. You don't know any of the evidence, but you just get caught up in that, and that's exactly what you're always slamming other people for doing so I I would love to kind of push back with that, but I'd rather hear you with Allen, and that could be you know those. Those old time interviews where they would sit in easy chairs, and they would smoke fireside fireside chats right to see that. The dusting of James Lipton, and but so I feel like he was a darling of of that group. He then started pushing back against that group. Is that group went too far in the Civil Libertarian Department and then allegations of him sexually this and that started coming out of the woodwork and I don't know if it's connected to crossing that group. Maybe he maybe a protected bobble as long. He was on the WHO when you're on the good side of that group. J. K. Rowling, or whoever even Jimmy Kimmel. When you're in the good when you're in their good graces, you're fine. If you cross him at all, they'll feed you to the wolves, and then all of a sudden. You want some exhibit A. Al. Franken Al Franken right so all you gotTA. Do is cross them at all. You'll get fed to the wolves and is that what's happening to? To Dershowitz well, you know it's interesting and I don't want to speak for him and I. Think the last conversation I had with him was attorney client. We were talking to a either mutual client or potential client so I won't repeat that exact conversation lists. He wants to, but Gary's put up there I hope. Epstein made videos and Blah. Blah Blah 'cause. That's a pretty a CISTERCIAN tweet. Tweet, that's pretty well. He also that's that's. That's tripling down although there is we one after the woman who had alleged that sexual harassment. was He's got nothing good to say about David boies and I tend to. Join him in that. So who's David Boyd? Voices the one who represented I don't know if he still does. boies Schiller who represented one of the accusers who represented the woman from Theranos and who represented Harvey, Weinstein and Alan and he are in A. Death Battle of the Almost Octogenarians although one little thing that I want to ask Alan about if we get him on next week Kerry. They say they'd him on the Nude Beach in Martha's Vineyard. He hasn't been seen that much this summer so far and I want to ask him about the the Nude Beach I say fact that I didn't know about I'd. For many years, he frequents the Nude beach and the. Martha's Vineyard I fun fact I don't go to any nude beach. Has the word Tuck it? Because that defeats the purpose like the. Let it fly so i. go with the Vineyard. Wake Carey is really on his mark today there? He hasn't been seen in his favourite nude beach and months. What's the love? Allen, well, we'll see leaving. Get Him on last I don't know question and. Just way to left field, but I I sometimes think about Paul Walker and his portion lawsuit. Fuel, Sal and all that kind of stuff. We talked about years ago. Whatever what became of that? We resolved it I. Don't know if I'm under a confidentiality or not is resolve. Resolve means saddle yeah. I just don't I as I sit here. I don't know if I can talk about it. Talk about how to get a little APP. I ask for you can talk about this. You can't talk about that. Somebody cut somebody a check and it went away. I think that's a I. Might have been right about the time that I bought your Lamborghini. Why can report. His daughter was awarded ten point one million dollars, five state of the gentleman WHO's. Really. Wow I. don't know if that's that was marks, aspect or angle I- aspect was is I remember a very wonderful woman was the driver and his widow and The driver was a male. Yeah and his I represented the widow of the widow of the driver. Okay, did you use my fuel-cell defense? By the way people don't realize how valuable an asset you are, but you gave me what I consider to be a salient fact that that brought that case home. Interesting! Yeah, all right. Well I'm glad I'm glad it all get pro bono work for. You get the waiver DB sold I'd get hey. Thirty one dollars worth of. so we're. We're square all right. You can go to AMC role dot com I got show's coming up in Dallas Twenty four and twenty fifth July, and also the thirty first through the first of August in San Antonio and you gotTA HAVE CHROME COME! My book is back up and replenished at Amazon now. I heard it went flying off the shelves, although that the can no longer say that downloaded to the point where. Bought so many sold through Amazon that there were out of stock for about three or four weeks now they're back in stocks. Go Tamas on and get that get. The audio book is well and Chassis C.. H. A. S. S. wise for all our car. Movies are mark. What's open? We've got Capris Open in Southampton and is killing it. There's a pop up restaurant called nyah which is great. You should try that out if you're in Southampton by the way Sunday tomorrow. When you're listening to this, there's going to be an art show there with Domingo's Cepeda painted something that I had the paint over it, said kiss me like you miss me and fuck you like you hate me. So which I thought was interesting, anthropological maybe. NANCY PELOSI'S Our. People do what they do I should have. To say that v Palm, springs is open to get down. There Kosta. Tropicana Gary's favorite place on San Clemente income downtown for tiny Mediterranean taught us if you don't want that, we've got a hot dog. Stand who were in a constant death match with right out front so until next time an mark, saying Mahala. Thanks for listening to reasonable doubt. Tune in next Saturday for an all new episode. Her. This is Corolla digital.

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ABOUT LAST NIGHT #511: ALONZO BODDEN

About Last Night

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ABOUT LAST NIGHT #511: ALONZO BODDEN

"This weekend I will be in San Francisco at my favorite Comedy Club in the world. The punchline March fourth through the seventh. That's a Wednesday through Saturday. Punchline comedy clubs San Francisco Recorded my Adam there. Read the room which you can go back and listen to and then come to the show and here brand new hour. I can't wait. I'm bringing my boy. Jammie Shockley to play. Some guitar to some improvised musical crowd work. It's going to be a lot of fun. March fourth the seventh punch. Line San Francisco get all these tickets at Adam comedy dot com and then I've got other shows in La. I'm doing the Kevin and bean April foolishness show on April fourth at the Microsoft theater with Stevo. Jeff Garland Adam Corolla so come to that and and I think that's it. We got a Lotta great shows coming up like today's so let's do it. Yeah have you do you still do? And by the way thanks for being here Even before we started talking about Chapelle and you being like I don't know how he comes up with the things that's how I view so and I think and I think that's a common. I shared a viewpoint on most of Comedians like pre special Last night Light Heavyweight Yeah. Heavy lightweight heavy lightweight. So good you thing but you always been this way before I even got to know you. through Through through Brad and it was like such a geek out moment because like you know all you WanNa do is get to a point where you feel like you have a point of view. That is like fresh and where? You're looking through a set of goggles. That hopefully You know always looking at things a little differently. And whether you're the most prolific person you're like your take on things is always stuff like you said that people go. Oh I didn't think of that but I agree with that or I. I can get on board with that and you've always been that way and I'm like you strike me. Someone that's just like from the Gecko been like now. I know Lonzo bonus so it's easy to talk about it. I don't know that I knew who I was but I had an opinion. Okay always had an opinion and what happened was the topical stuff and all the new stuff came mainly as a result of last comic right. 'cause when I went into last comic I did more personal stuff but for one thing had just come up with tons of material so I just started doing more on my topical and this and then I just find the stuff outside of me. Funnier than my life right. You know so so I mean this. That was a time when we were dealing with Bush and the Iraq war and Paris Hilton and just all kinds of that was it was just A. It was a ton of material Schwarzenegger with Governor. And so so you know so it was just like Oh man I just yeah let me just start talking you know and and as far as how comics because this came up recently talking about parallel thought early on when I used to talk more about like relationships and family and this and that I bumped into Chris Rock a few times as far as parallel fought like a joke and then I'd hear him do something. Gosh but then I was like damn. I'm thinking like I'm on the right track like if I had the same idea Chris. Rock then. I'm doing something right right. You know you wouldn't go of your way to then like put the Kabosh on the bit. Because I know some people do that with A. They'll stop doing it. Oh you know if I hear because this is why because someone in the audience will have seen him do it. And I'm an stolen shit. You know what I mean like. The audiences don't know anything about parallel thought so I as a matter of fact I had that happen and this was a simple. This was a simple joke back nine eleven and all that right so we were talking as I said you know. You gotta take off your shoes because of the shoe bomber. I'm like whizzed Abroa- bomber at just you know Joe so I think it was. I don't want to say Kevin Neal but it was. Somebody liked someone. At that level. There manager contacted my manager and said that I stole the joke him manage like where would he have seen him do it? You know what I mean like. We're we're in such complete different worlds. Like where do you think he saw that he would steal it? It's like no man that's the and that's an idea. I'm sure one hundred comics came up with you know that's like the Mexicans building the wall right and the first thing every comic said well. Who'S GOING TO BUILD? You know it was just a common thought would comics so Yeah that did you. Did it happen when you were like what you grew up? Where again Queens right? Yeah I grew up in Queens. Did you Was there something about the culture of the everyone's like a product of their environment more or less so it's like with their funny people in your family. We're oh man my mom. My mom was hilarious. I you know she passed away last year. And you know Thank you and Musicians always a song right there so I started thinking like what did my mom do like. What joke did my mom do that? I heard what the Act Alabama like my to pay tribute my tribute to my mom's and this is absolutely true. This happen so she's from South Carolina Small Town in South Carolina Right. And we're at a funeral and if you've ever been to a southern black funeral you know is a production is there's a lot of drama and this and it's fun to watch. I mean as well right before they bury them and you always hear oh Lord. It's too soon. Take Me Lord. Take my mother just leaned over to me. She said they yelling. Take me but they ain't jumping in that whole lot Adam. I cracked up and I'm literally laughing at a funeral but yeah that was my mother. My mom was like like just common sense. Quick Funny Shit. You know like mom who you voted for it. No matter who wins I gotta go to work tomorrow. Why this little little Shit like that look? Great timing and delivery timing and her take. It was her take. My mom had takes. Everything said Women's lips women's lip white women's Lib. She she said black women fighting to not work when you see a black woman fighting to get a job fighting to stay home like Oh yes she was. She was hilarious man from like an early age. Yeah all my life all my life. You know she would just she just being a kitchen and you just start talking and the other thing is we were junkies. We we had growing up. There were two newspapers in New York. It was a morning paper in an afternoon paper and we got both of them and we would just read the newspaper so there was a lot of talk about that about your current events and just yeah yeah just having and then it would be an open forum to discuss and then couldn't help because your family was just what thinking in terms of of making a joke at some point. I don't know that she thought about it. It was just her. You know my mom in her own way called bullshit on a lot of things you know what I mean like like. She's from generation that they wouldn't say this is bullshit but she would make her comment and you'd be like. Oh this is bullshit you know so yes I definitely I got that from her and I got the habit of reading the news from them and then it just kind of grew from there. Yeah I will say you. I put you Bursch uphill and recipes Greg Giraldo's when my favorite comics as the four best like able to take what's happening now and find the true hilarity in it. Despite how dark or light. It may be thank you. Yeah man and I mean and it's no No question to it. I mean if you've been making it a part of your routine since then it's why you have such A. I always felt when you're talking about something that's current that you actually a you have all the facts because like when I started watching Gerardo. Who's one of the first ones? I started getting into the got me into comedy and I would see him. Talk about certain stores like all right. He's at least presenting enough to where if somebody were to ask him during the show like a question about it that he could give an answer and not just have the bare minimum facts to write a joke about it right. But I always feel like you know what's going on in it and you can speak to it from so many different layers. Yeah Yeah I mean you gotta you gotta read the news. Yeah I mean Soak Headline in the joke and you gotta you gotta read or your new Jay Leno. No you I mean you could do some of that but you gotta read beyond the headlines. And you think about it or whatever and I'll tell you who I learned a lot of it from watching Lewis Black you know. 'cause Lou would pick stories. That people didn't know you know Louis. Talk about some congressman from Kansas. Said something and what I learned from. Luas take the time to tell them what you're talking about. Like they don't know. Tell them what the story is. And and the hard thing about that as a comic is now you gotTa talk for a minute without them laughing right you know and you talk about Chapelle. What Chapelle did with the Emmett till story if you remember that when that was an Austin that was amazing because he took like five minutes. Tell the entire story of Emmett till which anyone listening who doesn't know fourteen year old kid from Chicago Ghost. Mississippi doesn't not rules of Mississippi Right Looks at a white woman gets accused of whistling at the white woman they beat him destroyed his body lynched and everything and his mother buried him with an open casket because she wanted people to see what they did to her son. It was it was a game changer in the civil rights movement chapelle managers. And a call you and say Alonzo you didn't Chapelle joke on out. No no because I'm not doing the job back but but but the fact that Dave went through all of that just to set it up to set and then to be able to do a joke about something so horrific what again. That's why he's he's you know he's operating on a different level. You know what I mean. He's he's Jordi listeners. That I feel like is I got you're covering that same cloth but you know. I just got to figure out how they're filling the forum and Madison Square Garden and see. That's the part they let me and right up into Linden Burns Chapelle said. Yeah we'RE GONNA go do to form and and the garden and I'm like Oh 'cause I got the chuckle hut. I got the Amarillo Morello Chuckle Hut and I show Saturday sold out so you know. They're papering Ruma Forum Joe Quaid and sell them out Is there gonNA be hilarious to find out like the Joe Koi rented the Forum and let everyone come free? That'd be if some comic did that. That would be a hilarious. How would we what would we do? We just like 'cause you know. There's no comedy police. There's no like you know. Nobody really holds anyone truly kind of accountable to like lots of IRA in the Green Room. That's what we'll talk about. Maybe for a few weeks and then like this next guy. Sold out the forum. Yeah yeah well it would just become a story you know what I mean it would just become like it would become it would grow. Yeah and it would. Eventually it would be a football stadium. The Ato enjoy those like Backstage Green Room like comic. Because you're such a good hang and it's like even when I was in Vegas and I was over there and I hate you up and and I was like can I come hang become kick at the show and watch you and it was like you're good just comic. Hang you know him and I love comics right. See the thing that they always try to capture US hanging out with each other. I know right. They always try to now. He's going to get you the way you guys are off state and it's organic so sometimes it's funny as hell. Sometimes it's serious sometimes. It's stupid but it's organic but the fun thing is we have a shorthand and we don't give a shit right. There's nobody like if your your feelings getting hurt in the green room you know like we. Oh well that's an offensive thing to say Adam ever. Did you ever think about the person on the other side of that? Well I never you try to shit one time and it'd be like all right. Y- you doors right. Yeah yeah and that's kind of A. It's a learned thing though right because I've definitely like as I've gotten more into stand up and just been you know once they got to become a regular clubs and I'm in these green rooms more often. You see like you know there is kind of just a It's an open forum for you for people just to kind of like talk about the things that may maybe come bits or may just be like a safe space for two talking to because we actually talked about this week. You get to talk as you get more credits. And if there's little opening and you have one comedy central appearance you can kind of come with the jet but if you're surrounded by a bunch of famous congress you can't just hold court yeah like how would you view this. We had some friends come through and hang at the show at the store. A few Weeks ago in the in the main room and and they're Kinda of chiming in water and they were kind of chime in a little bit too much to like people that were a on the show and like like yourself like famous comic and they're you're like all right like there is definitely like a. There's a dance to just sit down and be like Like if I'd never mentioned black do Lonzo man so like you know I'm getting dude. I'm doing my first college man like you got a lot of colleges are crazy man because these kids they don't know they don't know what's up right. You've never met me. Don't even have my name. It's like there's a balance between jumping right in and maybe like listening and reading the room right. Yeah you got when Your Rookie. You shut up. Just shut up and listen and try to learn and jump in the worst thing. Is Somebody testing jokes. Like you know that some or they wanna be funny all the time right there. That's when you know it's a new comic when they're trying to be funny all the time and I remember And Godfrey kill me for this but we me and Godfrey fuck with each other and I love Godfrey but we were on the bus. We were doing Adjustable last tour and you know Godfrey was just going and going and finally I just said Godfrey shut and the whole bus was like thank you because they were all scared to say it. You know but but we could say it because we're cool with each other. We're at that point right. I understood report right. Yeah and then there was another time this. This was my absolute favorite of a new comic and I mess with him about it to the state as a comic named Mao Hall. You Know My Love Ma Vegas Yeah. Mark started with mouth all right so so we're in Vegas and now I'm going to do to story as quick as I can. We're working Brad Room. Mgm AND MOUSE FRIEND WAS AIR. He had like a cinnabon of some joint. Like that. Right so Maoz Amen GonNa take us to lunch right so we go to. Lunch and Mouth going to hate me for telling this story so get it out as much as you do mouse voice. That's l asked one of the best voices in comedy. So we go to Caesar's we go to some restaurant we're having lunch and the manager comes over right and a manager says how you doing. Welcome you having a good time right now. You know in Vegas. That means lunch. Free right right. That's that's how Vegas we're ass man. He gave us twenty percent off. I was like what kind of bullshit is this right so I said now. Let me show you how Vegas works. Yeah so I call George Wallace and this is when George was still doing his show and George Own Vegas. Oh Yeah and I'm like George you know we're GonNa have lunch and George. Okay so meet US meet at this. steakhouse opened the Paris. Right so we get to the Paris. We walk up there like Mr Wallace's in here but the table is ready right this way. You know we go in. We sit down. George shows up right so George says yet Lonzo. How're you doing blah blah blah this and that amount of his mouth? He looks at Molly's do I know you know he's a good because I don't like and then Georgia's turns his head and goes back to talking to me like house not even there so we're talking and we're talking and Georgia. What are you working on and I was like man. I got this bit. This Obama thing. I'm working Blah Blah Blah and mouth. Like I'm working on Jersey. You need to work on. Shut the fuck up at the end of lunch. We left right and I said to now oh and George was calling him a punk ass. That was his name. As far as I know your punk ass right so I said to mouth I said mouth. Did you notice something I said? Did you see a check? Did you even see or he said that'S VEGAS. I said when you somebody in Vegas you don't pay for Shit Now. Shut your punk ass. That's fucking amazing young there so I mean you have to go to be in enough situations to even get comfy to even like know how to navigate through and unfortunately there is no comedy so great. There's no rulebook or like when you start out like and no one wants to go out of their way to tell somebody you just gotta go through something like that. Yeah you gotta you gotta be gotTa be told You. GotTa be putting your plate now. I'll tell you the first time and I remember this where I was like. Oh Shit what am I doing here like? I don't know if you've ever had one of those moments you know. I was in front of the Improv. And we're talking about the road and I was talking about the road with Damon Wayans Dave Chapelle and and I've been doing it. You know I've been on the road for two years you know. I mean but we're just and I was like what the fuck am I doing talking to Dave Chapelle and Damon Wayans but it was cool as hell. You know what I mean. Looting you like. Yeah Yeah we were talking. And and that's when you that's when you know you're a comic right when you when you do that when you talk to other comics and you have the respected him you know and I ain't GonNa try to tell them road stories. Tell Damon Wayans my road story about getting laid in Boise. Think he's going to be that impressed. I'll just keep that one. Keep that one until I get to the Chuckle Hut Rillo. And he's got how dare stories they may. Yeah exactly exactly it really. Who'd you hook up with? Well never mind how Berry Berry there is some about being in those situations and even you talking about people like who Who Test Bits? It's I don't know if you remember this but the first time I even met you was when dishes last comic standing. I don't know if you remember this because remember specifically but I remember that that was you Kathleen Madigan and an with judges. That was season. What five okay? Yeah and this was like the very end of the day. It was at the Improv. And they do the auditions and and you know it was like a long treacherous. Like I mean you guys. I don't know how long you were sitting there all day all day. All Day comics coming in two minutes at a time for eight hours. Yeah that was the GIG. I mean. That sounds awful so it makes complete sense that I got the shit that I got this by the way like. My managers got last comics. You're on at the very end. They were able to slip in. Is like it's Kinda crazy like I had a rush over there and and even at I think I was maybe two to three years in and so like you're doing like a two minutes some going through them like I got two minutes or three years and I got two minutes. I'm just saying what two minutes and then once the pressure really sunk in fuck. Do I have to start going over all my jokes and all of a sudden was like I hate everything that I have that I WANNA do. And if you remember this but so I going at the very end. And it's like it's I mean. University IMPROV SETUP. With more cameras and lights were big jibs and swinging dollies and and you guys are sitting there with fucking like spotlight and it's very it's like shark tank comments and you walk in and then there's a proof backstage. It was also a little to dramatize like I was like. I think this guy can just open the door maybe Antonio's NBA. Greet you and you grab a chicken finger and go in but they opened the door and this guy shoves me in and just gonNa run to the stage and it's getting grab the MIC and say your name and I get there and go so guys news Adam rate and I just remember seeing you and you have this again with such a fan. Yeah it's big smile on your face and you're like man you know and and and the caffeine aunt Were somewhat warm and I launched into my jokes which at the time what I thought were killers was a joke about folger's coffee NYQUIL and and being in my opening thing was feels a lot like my little league games because my dad's not here and that got that laugh and that's so that was what allows it just them. Three three laughs are you. I mean that's tough because you know comics don't laugh totally but also I'm like I know in my head I'm like all right. I'm at the very end in my head. I'm like all right. They've done their their true responses to people and then they've done the we need to get you guys not liking a few people right like the produced like someone walks in right away so you know they never had to do that was that was easy all genuine. Hey guys atom ray here for the about last night podcast. Hope you're enjoying the episode man. It's good to be back. 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You're going to hear jokes about airplanes in hotels because this is new to them right. They just started traveling and and as well. They should be doing that right. I mean right and you you know this the we each had a joke that we hated right me. Kathleen well aunt aunt was trying to be Simon cow so he was gonna play the hater on everything. He didn't make a comment about my shirt which I thought was real quick but Kathleen hated. Hafer jokes when it's like you know my dad's Iranian and my mother's German so I'm blank right where she hated those because so many people do not mind was if a woman comic came in and said anything about going out with a homeless guy instead. Anything I was A. I know that that was the thing about a homeless. I dated a home and I'm like just shut up. No you didn't yeah. You did not date a homeless stop bullshit because so many women would do. I don't know what it was and it was like the first one that comes in and says a homeless guy hit on me and I said go home. You're fucking bomb. She's getting on his show. She's going to be the one who's different. You know because you hear so many people doing the same things but you know at two or three years. You know it now. Yeah you weren't ready for that. Show a thousand percent but again it's a three years is also such a great time where you're like you know. I got an on a few like bring your shows at the store. A lot of open mics. The Ha Ha and import wherever else driving with Brian's Colorado Santa Barbara do eight minutes you know and then walking back and then just but but so I got to a point where I was like. I think like I'm ready to maybe do a special like a half hour just thinking that you like enough shows of like with friends and not friends but that was yeah. I was so not ready but I walked up and my opening job after the dad was so I saw this folger's coffee commercial their day. You know the best part of Waking Up is full Jews in your cup and I go. Is it and I'm about to the punchline to the joke and caffeine just goes wow well. Folger's jokes goes what us it's nine hundred ninety six and I just kind of pause and had I just froze. I didn't know there was going to be like talked about it. We Yeah Yeah we had comments. I'm also I'm in my head on like I'm the fucking comic. Can you let me get out? One hundred and twenty seconds of dog shit materials can walk out her the little dignity and I've just was like and then she's like come on and then and then you and this is why I love you and why you're such a great dude like literally go a whole gallery and you go now. Let let him finish a joke and then they go and then I did it and I go I go thanks man. I go It to me. That's going to be the best part of Waking. Up is not dying in your sleep and then it's silence like this and then you go. I will let you do that. You got anything else. Mun But again you were like nice about it and you gave me an opportunity and you said do one more thing. Can you do one more bid? That was his nice way of neo. Punk ASS no and I did a NYQUIL bit again. It like no laughs and then but dude I walked out with. I mean look. I called my mom and told her. I'm I'm done with comedy. I swear got it was so dude it was gut wrenching because I didn't know that you could look man. You got friends from back home. That might be like dude. You Ain't Shit Man. I haven't seen on TV but you're just like well. You don't know Shit because I get on stage and you don't like you. You're not really shaking me up yet but having pros and people you look up to just throw you shade. It was devastating. Yeah well sorry. That was the job you know that that was the big I mean it was. You were so kind man. I'll tell you the hardest part of doing that was turned down like I had to turn down Bob Zany now like in the beginning of my career. I opened for Bob Zany. And we had to say like you. You're you know you're not making the cut And other pros you know and a lot of times it was. They picked the wrong material for the audition right. So it's like we know you're funny but we can't pass you based on the fact we know you're funny. You have to be funny right now. You know. And if I don't do a folger's cops Maxwell Coffee Joke. See you go in the wrong way you everybody everybody's at everybody's at starbucks and you're doing Maxwell House then folks at home and this was before Google so they literally would have had the get an encyclopedia and look up. Maximum about Tang Maybe one more minute hang is tangy. You see it's hanging when you mix it I was ninety seconds away from like circular. Hang what are you knew I will break down? Being a judge on last comic standing. Almost two point percentage right ten percent train wrecks absolutely horrible. But that's why it was fun to watch them. People you know ex porn stars. We had some guy in Minnesota who literally came in dressed as a viking. And did this whole thing like all just the show or was he a comic doing that. We don't know yet. We don't know 'cause he walked in and he wouldn't break character like he was We we when we were in England. We had a Scottish guy who's accent was so thick we literally couldn't understand. We would like we're show. You're very funny. We don't understand a word you're saying you know so you had ten percent of that right then you had like fifty percent at least fifty percent where you were where just not ready yet just you. Probably you probably going to be funny. Just haven't been doing it yet. You know Blah Blah Blah right. Then you had about Another thirty percents. That were good. They were in the five six year range in. Oh just one of them might rise to the surface doing a lot of the same topics as an then. Then it started getting tough right so you had five percent. You're on the show just came in killed it like like Matt Curtian or Gina. Yasha Ray where it was like. Yeah good thanks for making it easy. Just move on right. The hardest ones were the ones who were good enough. But why would we pick you instead of you see? That was the hardest one. Where like if you and mark came in and you both funny and you both good enough to be on the show but we can only pick one. So how do we know whether we pick mark or atom those would toughest ones and the biggest mistake and I apologize to him when I saw him? The One. Where we kind of missed little real? Yeah we shot down Little Rail. He auditioned in In Minnesota and it was like Nah you know and then I saw him about two years ago. You know it was I how many No I saw him. It was after Montreal. It was I think it was around. Get out it was around and I said yeah man we were. We were wrong and he just laughed. He was cool as Halibut. He's like I remember that Shit Man. I wasn't ready for that but but Yeah we miss it. Who knows but when we did it. Minnesota was the reason I remember Minnesota because the assumption is that. La New York. We're going to have the best comic without a doubt. Minnesota had the best comics and they didn't have enough spots. They had like six. Like New York had ten right. Comics ELLIOTT TEN MINNESOTA AT SIX. But we got the entire mid west like everybody from you know. Chicago and Minneapolis and and Nashville that whole area. They all came up to audition and we ended up with so many great comics they were they were telling comics like a go to Austin. Go to go to go to go to Phoenix. We'll let you try out there because we just don't have room here. Do you get inspired when you see like young comics from that or I guess I'm just curious like where how long now twenty seven twenty seven. It's still be crushing him. In and how sports specialist. How many yeah And I mean like. It's to continue to be prolific with your material and to keep kind of pushing boundaries and yourself creatively. I'm like where did you get that? You know because I'm almost fourteen years in and it's like just always trying to find something to get excited about mark and we were just talking about Chapelle. All four specials was yesterday mark. Yes yeah it doesn't have a lot to do right now but he'll watch the yeah right. Yeah but we're talking about finding the inspiration like you forget when you see certain specials like that but I don't know how much you watching comedy when you're not doing it. Some people say they don't want to do. I don't watch a once in a while. I watch specials. I don't WanNa Watch specials because I don't WanNa get your ideas in my head right because you're only one hundred joke and there's but no I mean that that happens so some specials I'll watch like if I hear someone specials really good or if I know the person I'll check it out The new comics. What I love about the new comics is. They're doing it in a different way. Even your generation only a generation behind me you know and and watching like I came up more setup punch writing stuff like that now you see I see more stream of consciousness stuff I see attitude attitude works for some you know but but I love the art man. That's what inspires me. I just fucking love comedy. I mean I I love everything about it so whenever I come up with a new idea or create something new. I'm anxious to try it and see you know. See what's there? So that's that's what keeps me inspired but yeah new comics. The the the social media thing right. I'm not anti social media but it definitely created what in music would have been called the one hit wonder. Yeah and that that's annoying. It's it's not bad it's just annoying. It's like okay one bit wonder go over there. You know what I mean like. Yeah You you've got twenty million Youtube followers would go over there and do that but this is the art you saying like when they try to jump over to the state. Yeah yeah this is for the art so when you go to like Whoa. Who's here tonight? It's sold out some youtube kid. Yeah Yeah you know. Clubs are going to be about making money about putting acid and seats you know and then you go to a club like comedy magic like. Oh no you gotta be funny like. That's what Richard looks at. You know you gotta be funny so this because this still put up youtube guy people and then you check later. They're slow. Yeah so there's not a lot of those people I think are going for the picture and see them live young and then hopefully not a return thing so that it's like taking away from people that are trying to make it an actual job but there's also something about like. I don't know like when you right you right. You still ready motorcycle do you. Right when you're riding his man sometimes that clears my head. It's like the most meditative place for me dot com. I used to tell me when he was didn't have a car and he was walking everywhere he was like. That's where right and then when I saw you and I think Dean Red used to ride motorcycle comics. I know of that do and I was like and I was like so. You know fascinated by it. Because I'm like you know such a pussy I would never get on one but if you got a vest ball fucking racy but but like so. I was like Oh. That's got to be a time for you zone out and probably get a lot of Clear had yes definitely definitely and you know it it comes up and then like Oh shit I gotta write that down you know and I get it but when you what you were talking about mark about it coming back to being funny and this is you remember people you learn from right. So in the era of the alternative comic right and and we were at some show and every comic came up and they put their notes on the music. Stand right. 'cause JANINE GROFF loaded and it was. It was all thing to do to not memorize your material. Yeah so just read and I leaned over to Rick Overton and I said you know if they're all doing it. By definition it is not alternative man and Rick just looked at me and said it always comes back to funny and Rick is a guy who's been doing it for forty years. You know Rick Spin around forever avenue and he was like yeah man always fads. He said they come and go. But then it always comes back to be in funny at some point. You gotTA BE FUNNY. You can fool them. Sometimes they fool all away to TV and then that moment comes in you like you ain't got it you know so so And I've been relatively successful. I've had a pretty good career but the thing I love and the thing I'm proud of is the respect of other comic right because you know we all know that the richest comic on stage a necessarily funniest comic in a room might not even be in the top ten you know but they they got millions of dollars which I ain't knocking but it seems like what. What is it about that that makes us want the like? 'cause I mean I know I think everyone deals with that in different ways but like one V. I remember when I had a lot of really you know sweet conversations with Rogin off stage and then one nine am. I saw them In back after I got off stage opening the. Or and I had done some musical Improv. Riffing WITH JEFF. Scott the piano guys which I'll do from time to time and and I got off and he just kind of walked right by me said some things to Griffin and then whatever and then I was like Erik was he like making fun of me. He's like I mean what do you want me say? God Damn it and I like was so buttered about it and then since then we've been actually even joked about it and like it's all good and I was obviously making it more of a deal my head than it was but to have him look at me and think asserting shot me down for a couple of. I Love Joe. Cause Joe is such a purist. Yeah Joe is a purist and I've seen Joe take people apart where I felt sorry for whereas like Jodi. Hfs wanted to do this. Yeah but but But no he's He's appearance and again you know what it is. It's the love of the art and it's defending what we do. Yeah Right. Comedy is the most disrespected creative platform. And I've always said it's because in my opinion because everyone's made someone laugh you know in their lightning at some point. They've made someone laugh right. They haven't always sung song. They didn't do an acting scene but they've made someone laugh so they think they can do what we do or they think what we do is off of one like throwaway joke on the bus or or or to a teacher on your way out of the classroom that makes them and don't even think about like if it was a small after a big laugh they register. Is it like a comedian? Yeah exactly so. They think they can disrespect what we do. You know it's like heckling like I. I don't know COUPLA months ago whatever I was at the Ice House right and I'm doing this joke about I had a stroke about cory. Booker is dating. Rosario Dawson Right. And I'm like man. He pulled that fine. Puerto Rican and somebody'll Dominican what she's not Puerto Rico. I'm like okay. First of all. She is Puerto Rican and second of all like what the Hell is wrong with like? Who knows how to correction? Nobody went to Hamilton. Excuse me excuse me. They did not rap seventeen in seventeen. O Six Day did not read. This is no. You're going to have to stop this show. Yeah you know what I mean like only comedy. Does someone feel like? Oh Yeah I can yell out and correct. Stay under eight under like Appreciate it when they give out the awards like the Academy Awards. There's no best comedic actor actress but you can host the show and if you just said something wrong. Ten years ago you can be fired from the show. It's like dance like this if you want to. But they completely just disrespected as an art like that. It's just easy to do. Yeah and well but actors don't think Actors Love Comic these. They always say man. I couldn't do that. Stand up there by myself and no he had to reach out to you or come up to you that fans that you didn't know that. Oh absolutely absolutely what people where I was shocked. They knew who I was and you know and they talk to you about it. I was talking with Don cheadle and saying to myself. What the fuck am I doing talking to Don Cheadle? There is no reason for me to be talking to Don cheadle. I lost respect for him for talking with like. You're better than this. You're better than this. You Know No. That was cool. You Know Comic Wise Robert Townsend. Wow Dude meteorologist towns in. Yeah he came up and he was and he and he didn't just say I'm a fan like he was telling me jokes that he had seen me doing stuff like. Yeah that's just like wow you know does it Larry. Cool does that stuff kind of I mean are you. Have you gotten to a point to where you've done enough cool shit too where you kind of just like it brushes off the shoulder and you soak it up for a moment and appreciate it or do you go home? You call somebody or do you like sometimes I do. Sometimes I'll tell people about it but it's more like I appreciate it but I'm not gonNA EGO trip over it. You know what I mean but but yeah I definitely appreciate it you I don't. I don't think you ever get used to that. You know I don't think you ever get used to somebody who is great in their genre respecting you and your genre right that. That's that's like one of the coolest thing about athlete wider coming. It's like if you're a sports fan. I think that's mainly almost cooler than the actor thing right like if like who's your favorite athletics or baller. La- Lebron even Clipper Fan. I still respect Lebron me and mark. We're talking about this yesterday if you watch if you saw this game the Lakers verse Boston at the end of the game. Lebron won the game and I was like see. That's what you still needs someone who can do that. Someone who had any games like? Give me the ball. I'll handle it you know. And he's that guy but last summer. I did a benefit for Ray Allen and and Chris Spencer put it together so Chris tells me Yeah Man. Raise a big fan of yours and like what anything? Yeah Man Ray. The time. Three point leader right and I met him and he's like Oh man I remember when you and he's telling me about this Obama joke. I did in await right so go on stage. I'm like big Fan. Yeah I ain't seen no all star tickets tickets to the fine like what the hell kind of fan I never heard from. He got gay. Dvd scenes you know you a big Fan. I didn't realize that reality was going through hard times. What's wrong with him dude? That's A. That's amazing dude. Yeah there's I mean I think nobody gets immune to getting to a point where you don't want some sort of allegation right like whether it is respect from comics or shoutouts weren't expecting or I mean I don't know is it. Do you just get enough from getting off stage and being like Oh cool that new shit I worked on is working well on a personal level. Yeah on a personal level. It's that but but the hearing from other people and stuff like that. Yes really cool and it's like when. I became an old guy right like like about now. It's been a while now. It's been about eight nine years but when I realized a bit about that are phenomenal but no. I'm talking about being an old pro comic. I'm talking about being a comic. Yeah like the vet. You know talking about meeting Manson. When when I started hearing comics asking me questions that I remembered asking George Wallace Dahmer era right and I was like ocean and then and I knew the answer I was like. Oh Shit now. I'm old guy. Now Nichole guy come into have a seat youngster. Let me tell you how this works. Yeah but But even that's kind of cool. You know like like Louie Anderson told me a story that I never thought of but it was funny when he had his live show in Vegas. He said he had a bunch of young people. Come into the show like in their twenties and he'd like and then he realized they had grown up with life with Louie. That was their cartoon. When you were a kid and now they were old enough to come see him and I was like how cool would that shit be. That reminds you. You're all when I was watching you when I was four but still just the idea that they're coming to see you as adults from cartoon eight. That's got to be a cool feeling. That's true you know we've been talking about early to if you we've been asking each other lately like who do the best comic besides all the best of all time like you can't name. Richard Pryor Dave Chapelle Jerry Seinfeld Eddie Murphy George Carlin like Kinda like the Mount Rushmore. Who's like your secret hidden? Most favorite robbing hers. Okay this is a great answer. Why Robin was the quickest. I'd ever seen Robin was like there was. He had a joke for anything. He was so quick. And so and so funny. And yes so That's what I love about Robin Robin Cook. Crack on anybody. And he was so quick to do it so I would put him in that category Richard Jenny Young Man may Richard Jenny. Platypus man is one of the greatest. You talk about specials. That is a one hour. That is seamless. Like when I you don't even notice. He switch topics because his segue like everything he did was so funny. Yeah rich anyway. Richard Jenny was a beast. I gotTa Richard Jenny story so I used to bartend the comedy store the Hoya and he. Dahmer is the first famous person who met Richard. Jenny was the second Evans like. Don't talk to him. He's a hard ass blah blah blah. He was until he knew yes and then he would go then. I was bartending us. Hey what are you doing right now? Yes whereas trump said upstate New York has some I think was Brooklyn Guy. Right into goes you might come outside and talking to me so if you go outside smoke cigarettes talk at me for like three minutes. Does all right done then he let me go back inside be like wow. He likes to go. I didn't see a single word. He just wanted someone to talk but then I thought especially like he's always been nice to me that thing we'd be like yeah you know he's always been with me didn't say anything to him. Loose smoke my face. Let me go back and say it's a sign of respect I am. I met rich Jenny. This was when I was in my comedy writing class. Right just hadn't done a show yet. It was at some theater. It's not there anymore but in Santa Monica and comedy central trying to remember what they used to have a half hour show it. They used to record their that was when I met Chapelle to for the first time. I can't remember the name of it but anyway rich Jenny pulls up during the day and I'm just hanging out. And He tosses me as car keys like he thought I was the valet. You know and and everyone said you should have just took the fucking of course. I wouldn't have done that as a mountain. Where and why would they hire sixty-five la driver? That's where you know you guys valley but the the comic moment I had like that and I mean I was laughing so hard I could not breathe. We're doing this this benefit and Robin Williams I think was presenting an award to Buddy Hackett when my gat? Yeah so I'm outside Smoking a cigarette and this is when Don Imus did the thing about the black girls. Basketball team right. Nappy headed hos. So Buddy Hackett walks up now. I've never met him. I don't know who he is and he's like I know you're going to let us heaven. I know you said you black comics man you get it. You know you guys when something. Oh Man when you get a hold of something you negroes can make and he keeps going and doing games going and and I am crying. It was so funny. Because it's like this is surreal. Like this is Buddy Hackett. And he's doing a black material on me. Oh man pumped me up yet but it was so funny because he kept saying the same thing but every time it would be something it went from like black we but he was doing a bit. Yeah coke he was joking. No show waiting like yeah. He was joking difference funny because of the way he kept. Do like you can really great. You've really man when you African American get a hold of you colored guys get and he keeps and I'm just dying and it was like what a moment you know. I've had a couple of those moments I had i. It's on my facebook and instagram. Everything back stage just for laughs when Don rickles starts cracking on me now this know like as a comic like what greater moment do you have been sitting next to rickles. While he's insulting you guys very funny you know first thing was what name. Alonzo Lounge. It's good. He took a white man's name sort of police. One thing he did it anyway and and just that was the first line and just went from there and I. I couldn't I couldn't breathe. I'm just laughing and you're like what a moment you know what I mean like. The end of the sad thing is now people would be like well. That's rather offensive. It is like yeah. Yeah you completely missed it. How do you navigate and I have seen you talk about this with people and they probably ask? You know someone like you who is so topical and current with materials like. Do you think there's like a you know an off-limits piece of material or like here. This question all the time. If I see coming on a morning show where they're like how to even be funny in a culture like this. I mean it's I mean. Can you even say the word joke? And you're like man you know this every comic noses if it's funny you can say it. That's all if it's funny you can say if you intentionally go for the to offend Li- like you know like Ari. Did that joke about Kobe right after Kobe and people got mad at joke. Even like you know. But but that's also Ari being. Are you know what I mean? Are He's going for. He's he wants offend you. As if he were then he did his job in his. That's how he worked as that's his brand as the kids say but no man if it's funny then in always wins. Funny always wins. You hurt. You heard me do. I can't even. I don't even know if I'm allowed to describe the bit but I love it. My my Nigga midget Joe. I loved the joke. And when now when you just heard that he like Oh my God that. But but nick you've heard about ED context of it it works. It's on because the joke is about the words people's response to words and if you're going to respond to words without knowing the context of the word then you're an idiot. Yup because any any word can be funny if but you gotta put in the work to write the joke right like the guy the director who did joker. I can't remember his name Bills Yeah when he said. I'm not doing comedy anymore because you can't be funny. You know my response was right harder. You could still be funny. Could be funny about damn near anything. There's very few things that would be off limits and it's fun and this is something. Chapelle doesn't and it's something I try to do when you can find something funny about a topic that you're not supposed to talk about. That's the best joke in the world that you know Brian Holtzman you were talking about great comics. People don't know man Holtman kills and it's horrible. The Shit he says you know what I mean like when we were on last comic man Corey Holcomb. You know like if you're brilliant if you're a woman looking for misogyny you know your head will explode listening to Corey Holcomb Fright. Because he's a good guy. You know what I mean. This is his act. It's it's the delays. It was like back in the day. There were people who were upset with dice. You know like as if it were real you know what I mean is. If dice was walking into grocery stores he could redecorate duck. Suck my Dick now. I don't think he peanut butter. Yeah I think I think he can behave in polite society back then. When people were offended they couldn't find each other now people can find each other. It feels like a little like army is almost raised back. Oh my God I got two thousand people disagreeing with me at once. 'cause back in the day which is probably one or two people now has overwhelming a we. We had a great moment. You know back when we did Last comic standing you know men have talked about it all the time we left with over fifty thousand my space friends. 'cause we know how to time our career so that's what you had. You had my space and you had forums and Heff was like you know much someone has to hate you to look forum create a username come up with a password log in and then tell you they hate you like you had. You had horses. Couldn't just you couldn't just throw out a tweet. No you had to remember and then you had to remember your password when they hated you again the following week it means doing something right. I Know Right. I just saw Heaven Arizona What's the place he got in Detroit? Dude I mean look I a handful of two kilos but we got real Fight about the idea about getting a bunch of comics out there for either shore. Hang but man. Didn't that look. What is gotTa Ranch? A ranch in Detroit John Hafren. Yeah Yeah because you can get a house there for two grand yes dude. Oh so it looks like the set a little house on the prairie. I mean a looked like it looked like the. Yeah he lived. This is the thing and I talked about so he went to a just held divorced right. He just went to a shit divorce and we used to live near each other up in Woodland Hills. Oh so you were right along for the ride not for most of it but yeah for a lot of it I hit you know but anyway so he sells his house there and he goes to Detroit. Anybody and I said you bought a house that a woman's going to look at and want to marry you like what the Hell is wrong with. You like you don't want to be married. Don't buy farmhouse with a ranch and it is. It's it's the perfect family home. It is a house that a woman looks at and that nesting instinct is like. Oh yeah yeah this is good. I'll take this one. Oh yeah and I was like what the Hell is wrong with. No get a condo. Buy Something Stupid. Get to have access to a skinny. He for you know. Let them know this. There's no way for you to stay. I love that guy I love. Heff have you. Do you have a yeah forever? I mean since we we you know he brought it up because I had forgot so heff and I I went head to head on star search with our Senio in like one or something like that. Yeah we went. We and I have a long history of competing against each other in comedy and when we finally finished last comic we agreed to never compete ever in anything again. You know what I mean like of where the grocery store it's like you. I know you. I wait on Arsenio Star Search Know Arsenio hosted. They did a re remake of star search in early two. Thousands Arsenio with the host was was this apart. Did he get this going in the crowd? No no it was after his show so they knew who he was but they weren't doing the barking. I always WanNa see that live when I've seen old clips like there's that clip. Somebody posted recently of somebody yelling out like how come you never have gay people on your show. Do you see this clip. Her and then he goes up into the standards the opening monologue and he goes up into the stands and just roast these guys and in a very like Diplomatic Funny Smart Fund Way Jacked Up and once. He did it and he was like any ended up by being like this is my show. And he's like with people on here that are gay but we don't know there because it's not your fucking businesses. And then he was going off and people are going nuts and their version of going nuts and supporting him was everybody who and then he goes. It's my fucking show he goes now. Let's start it and he goes back down the stairs and I was like what I wouldn't have given to be in that audience just to be a part of that. You know guys. It's Adam Ray taking a quick break from the podcast to tell you about better help now. Look life is full of ups and downs. There's always something that can get in the way of our happiness and you need somebody to talk to right. I know for me my own issues in life with its career oriented family drama. Having somebody to talk to helps and I don't feel burdening friends or significant others with that Info. Okay you need somebody with the neutral playing field and someone with a clean slate to come in and listen to what's going on with you and that's what better help us for. I've used them phenomenal. What they are. Okay is Is a online counseling. Resource okay video chatting texting. It's basically connecting with professional counselor Against somebody that Unbiased and coming in Is a professional to help. 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Show people forget that Dr. Oz hosted the open. Mike at the Improv. Yes yes for days. Yeah that's right free exam. Do you know what's so when you when you talk shit to Arsenio you know like talking shit to Rogan or is like. Don't poke the bear because this is a comic Al Franken Al Franken as a senator and you Talk Shit. Do and forget that. Oh he got comic in him. I know why I'm so bummed. He's not like that's the worst loss. And that's why the Magic Hour Workout Charles Barkley or Gary Payton. They could've you know trash talk back Nice. He was magical and magic couldn't talk. Let's get real magic. Could not put together the two sentences you know and it was just so likable. Just like you couldn't like pluses economy of all ages. Sit around and think about if someone offended what we'd say back like. I'm just doing the dishes like I've said this to for someone finally says he got him and wait for this moment. You know that that's but that's the thing about those God their comics. So do you have that moment happened with your host family future across the country? Which is so. You're by the way if people haven't seen YOU JOSE. Thank you do a decent amount? Yeah Yeah Yeah it hosting is something I've fallen into but I'm good at so you're so good at it and when you told me in the Family Feud Shit. I was like of course which you know. I think at some point one of these big shows is GonNa fuck you up. I have no doubt seeing you host. The what is the name of the The award show awards. This is Jay. Ward's a huge like end of the festival all the big awards like every like tiffany got breakout. Jim Carrey getting the comedian of the year. And you're hosting this thing which is like there's so much star power in the room. It's almost more anxiety or pressure peg than the Oscars because it's comics judging an industry like and really critique in watching you trying to be like you know what. I'm saying there's just more comedic eyeball I gotTa tell you the fun part of doing that is like Adam. I don't give a Shit. I ain't getting discovered you know what I mean like I've been going to J. AFL off and on for twenty years. They've seen me so. So you know people say that and I know I appreciate Shit Man. I love the love. I get from the comics in and hosting industry in hosting that show but it's also like listen. It's not like I. I have nothing to lose here. You say I'm just going to be funny because nobody signed me to shit. You know what I mean. So what were you saying? When Judd was there. You're seeing some about like you can for jobs. You know so so I was like every select Kenya Barris Gilman. Blackish never need a big brother. You Ain't got a job camp so when Judd appetite and Jim Carey went up. I was like liar. Liar bailiff bouncer just security guard. Cook up you know and cracking on all of them about getting job. And I didn't even think of that until the second one and then that okay that's going to become the theme of the show and it was really fun. So that's what's cool and also a lot of them. I know you know who are getting awards or presenting so that that helps and it's fun. Yes do you have that opportunity with family feud though to With a live show? I know what it is. It's doing crowd work. One person at a time like you go down the line and each one of them you talk to has something to say like I remember one kid and he was literally a kid he might have been like seventeen or something like that and was like you know. We surveyed a hundred women. What's the best place to meet a one Blah Blah Blah and? He was like math class like math class and I was like. Oh so you work in the arithmetic angles doing homework and stuff like you know and you just get stuff like that. That is hilarious. It's like that's what Steve Harvey gets too. Because when you talk to people like that you get moments. But what the the producers who. Some of them also work on the show they said. Yeah but Steve gets cut and do it again. If you're just doing it and I'm like yeah well. This is the GIG so I yeah. It's fun man. It's anything like that. Like the creative part of comedy when I can do something. That's going to be funny and it's the funniest thing in that moment but you can't do it again. I like Shit like that. You know even even though the part you can't do it again is the parts that that's difficult any other thing and I really do appreciate again. This is all bullshit aside. I appreciate what you said about me hosting and looking for a job man you not. A hard thing with industry is they. Don't recognize that I don't know you know what I mean like. They don't the the the worst thing about the people making the decisions about our career is. They don't know how to do what we do. They know nothing about it. You know and and believe me I have fucked up in meetings because in the back of my head. I'm like you've never made anyone laugh like you. You're sitting in a glass tower and Culver City. So you have no idea what's funny in Boise or Chicago or Oklahoma City or this and they're telling us like he had them. Let me tell you what's funny. No my fuck. Let me tell you funny because I just did. Five shows in Tampa. Yeah right I mean but you know that the same thing you go on these auditions you go in and know things stick you get something now and then but you know when you're having a meeting and you're talking to these people like we're not allowed to say what we want to sound and they think yeah when you're in. Tam T. That you've gotta be better than tits. That is to like whenever I whenever I see the Bachelor Party at a show. I'm like you've made a horrible mistake. Like what the Hell is wrong with you? Like a Bachelorette parties bad enough. But if you're a bachelor party and you're at a comedy show on unless you like specifically went to see burr. I think bill. Burr would be like the only guy you get a pass on seeing at the Bachelor party but you still have to be on your way to to you. Know you can't just go home. You know we were just important bachelor. Party get kicked out when San Jose's always get kick. What do they do though or say because they I don't remember specifically what it was but it's the same story. Everyone and they want all the attention to be on them. They wanted and they don't exactly comedy show is theater and they come to party. Yeah and those two things. Don't mix right. What and this is what I'm talking about. That's the lack of respect for the show. Party of family feud or people drink in the audience. Is it a at the casino shows? They did at the but see the casino shows a funny. Because then you're like a you're just another. Stop like they come in and they watch it for twenty minutes and then either they like it and they stay or they're like and they go back casino. Yeah I mean so it is what it is but Yeah what what you just said. That's a good way to put it. They came to party. They walked into theater when the party. Now with the women all you have to do is give them the attention for that five minutes and then they're happy they're good if you as you recognize them. Yep Make One John Joke about including them and then they're good that they've had the greatest time ever it'd be like when they still WanNa Bang you. You're still in the adult and you're still in the WE WANNA fuck you years. That's why I keep my calves in just never know when you're going to show a little skin get a girl Turned on but You got five minutes. Let's we got this this new segment on the show where we like to tackle. I know you're so good with the topical current stuff Like we said one of the best and we have the segment on. The show will be taken up by the way. Let me say this before I leave. I get invited to a lot of podcasts. I know you do. I heard someone who had shitty podcasts. Say it was funny that they said it could their pockets which they like podcasts. New jury duty. Wow which was you get called to do it. You know this one is fantastic on your your ankle. Udo Your setup is professional. Thank you. It's fun talking to you guys. Yes definitely so enough for the pro aspect. But there's still hanging. Yeah so so Kudos to you all right so we take a look at the the the headlines in the In the world. That aren't getting all the press that we think they should and kind of off Stories off the beaten path. We're GONNA talk about Florida to segment with the call. Wait would I laugh every time? Never changing the title. Mark? What's the first story? Now I think aloud to your sports fan he also boxing. Fan Not really. I'm up on the fight. I'm the same way the big lights going on. I'll make sure I got need to these are good highlights these top four boxers while they're fury rubies and Joshua. They're they're least very entertaining anyway. Tyson for it looks blood off. Deonte Waller's neck during heavyweight championship win. Have you seen this clip? Yeah God God choose that how you take his power away or something. I don't look at that and he's working at T. I think that's one of those tribal thing with like you. Drink the blood of your enemies before you kill them. This is also the definition of white privilege. Mike Tyson's a cannibal. This guy. That is like he's doing what he does. You raise them. I mean listen. If you look at fury he is fat. He might have got hungry. I might have been a while since he had a snack enough. Press well or it's like with comics where it's like everyone go up there and you've got to say something about dingle berries tonight and maybe one of these guys and cruise like hey if you get a chance you gotta look his. Blood Wall. Somebody's blood yes or was it a bet. Did they do like weird bed? Vegas knew about that. We could have been some hundred also his red wings but he went back for seconds. That's what those me off like one lick. I'd be like do you fucking. That's where you know. He really whipped. Wilders asked because a man licks your neck beat the shit out of you know what I'm saying that's going to be like no you can whip Ammann's rambler French nick. What we kissed to the next level. There's no irony in his eyes either. He's not joking here. He's not like People see this to laugh about it. I'M KINDA LAUGHING. This is he's fully got hungry. There's no irony in his eyes but there's iron his mouth. It would be great the same way that you saw with Jose. Altuve as the Astros saying when he's got that video and he's like clearly like don't pull my shirt off because there's a wire but then he went on to say like he was embarrassed about Tattoo or something else. It'd be great if he was just like completely denied this and was like dude. I was literally trying to move my tongue out of the way like and said he wasn't even trying to go for blood. Snacks did yeah was winded. Yeah it was breathing. Heart was hanging on. I need electrolytes. You guys didn't have powered like you said you would get ready to meet our next colleague. Please Alaska Airman receives discipline for urinating and coffeemaker dot report. What okay no alaska-based airman was punished last week for reportedly being in an office coffeemaker. According to a report the incident was reported. A written by Legal Office of Anchorage Jot Wake Up. Be Smart The frowny face this newsletter thirteenth details remain a mystery according to learn the airman first class violate two articles when being article ninety two derelict of duty for failure to refrain from urinating the coffeemaker maker. And then scroll down. This is my. This is my favorite sentence here. Hold ON A. They're sentenced better than to refrain from urinating in. Everyone has an urge like we couldn't suppress that. Like everyone. I gotTa Pee and the coffee maker you. GotTa suppress that urge Alaska. They get their name in the snow. They got a piece somewhere else. What's your favorite line here? This guy is not fired. They they didn't suspect. Oh he got he got knocked down to the most basic level. Have you been fired from a job in San Comedy? Yes I said the C word and it all Christian. Show the Tempe Improv as Tony Danza. Yeah I did. I got fired from the palms for making fun of the loops. No Oh yeah. Oh Yeah in. Court was run on that show man. Yeah that was the at the playboy comedy does. Dang I got. Were they there? Yes Oh no. What did you say so? I don't have a sense of humor about the distance. Who the militia. If they move study they owned the Sacramento Kings were while they owned the Palms for Awhile which was casino. It was the hot spot was where they did the real world. Yes so I get there on like Thursday and it's like a Friday and Saturday show and a woman at the desk is like well. We don't have any rooms and I'm like I'm performing here. She'd like she's like what your name is. And I was like look and like the screen behind her rotating like I popped up. I'm like that's me. So she says well we can get you a room at the Rio and I was like I ain't doing a show at the real. You know I was getting Kinda pissed. 'cause they're playing it see. It's that everybody wants to be here and I'm like look. I'm not some kid who wants to party with the real world like I'm working here. Yes so anyway so I ended up. They find a room you know and and I go on radio and I joke about it on radio and I said you know. I can't name the hotel. But it's named after a palm tree and this and that so I opened the show talking about that about how I couldn't get a room and it's an and I was like in the Sacramento Kings ain't shit and isn't that 'cause I'm remember. I'm a clipper fan right. So now cracking on the kings and the moves on to end the crowds cracking up. It's the whole thing right so after the first show. It was literally like a movie like these two guys in black suits. Come up to me. Excuse me you can have pack up your room and leave the hotel and I'm the Elkin like what and courts behind the court with like it's not due to Melissa here. You know and I said I did it but I said this was part. I said I had no respect for. They didn't tell the second show that they did. You know in other words like okay. You WanNa kick me out. Tell the second show that. You're cancelling me you know and you know they so they let all these people pay their money and come in and told them like no. He's not here and they never said why or anything like that and I said now if it had been the Riv- like Real Old School Vegas data take me out to the parking lot. Giving me a beaten try data they hit you. They hit you in the gut where it don't show and you get your ass up and do the second show that's big. I wouldn't respect the respected and asks weapon in the second show original loss of hair. You'd have to drink out of different water fountain. Hey yeah way to go mark. He's not he's not wrong he's not. There is something to be said about like putting it on the audience to let them assume like by not by having you not show up and then not telling them why didn't probably seems like this guy probably just fucking got fucked up. Yeah couldn't make the show rightly so own it if you did it own it. It's a great story. That club was great. Though I mean it was like the playboy club and it was. Yeah I remember I went down. I went with Brad ones. We went out to the pool and I was like By the way if you haven't been to a pool with dwarf it's truly just like where can you would've dwarf where it doesn't help when not good to have we been at the NBA Celebrity All Star game. Yeah yeah it never not good. You know. There's never a bad time. Did we were both single at the time. And he just literally like we're walking in and and And I was just like we're sitting there at a little commanding from in the club. Kind of hooked us up and then he was like all right. He's like we need some. We need some friends and I go. Yeah we do he goes. I'll be right back. He goes to like three different little things. I don't hear anything. I just see like a lot of hand gestures and then I see Brad. All of a sudden start going like this and dancing and then. I see like six girls get up. Walk back over and over like this guy is just throwing a football into Into a pile of hotties does Brad's arms. Go above his head. No they don't want the next door okay. One More Bo strongman role seven frying pans. And one minute for a Guinness World Record Yet. You want that sure. Because here's my question. Do Follow the Guinness Book of World Record People. Do you take an interest when you hear story of like the Guy Wondering Awhile you see something you know what I saw at blew my mind. Do you know what the world record is for plank? Now eight hours no yes. The woman's record is four in the men's eight. I'm like what kind of animal and how do you put more? So yeah so those kind of things blow my mind. But what is this? How do you roll seven? Prime time can grab your cans quick. That sounds this have you. Can't you can't say that one woman she goes Grad. The candle pin three two one stuff walk got prime but bendable and the. Celtics don't have a big scene. This is just like Brenda from Burbank. How'd she get on the show? I have not much research back in August. Okay you stop that AH record. That's one of those things like you don't even know how hard it is because no one's ever tried to do that. Yeah right like who would even try to roll but God bless her. We do not want a hand job from that she gets excited. It is gonNA end poorly Do you do you? Where'd you grow up that you know what that reminds me of remember when Bo Jackson broke the bat over his thigh member when he pushed it in annual and like nobody ever? Nobody knew how hard that was to do in an everyone was trying it and they were like Holy Shit like he just broke back over his. Thaad like it was nothing. Yeah that's a lot of people. I don't know anyone who's ever tried frying Pan Rolling but I know some strong people probably can't do that. We don't want to the reaction of the crowd in her. I got a real quick. You might as well okay. It's evil works. There's another and you know the other thing the woman who rolled six frying pans. She Ain't shit now roll six and now nobody knows for me. You know what I'm saying. Brief time yes. We had a moment now. She'd like sipping cocktails Jim Right now. He's in the gym right now. Janice no one's Lopping your get arrested. Yeah Amazing Shit Man thank you. This was phenomenal. You're you're you're such a good hang. Where and especially working people Amazon Amazon prime heavy. Lightweight you can download it. I am actually heading to South Africa. Man This is the first. I'm doing the South African the Cape Town Comedy Festival next week and people have been. I say they've been threatening to take me to Africa for ten years. You know you get all these promoters like. Oh we're going to take you wouldn't do well. Someone is finally come through so I'm really looking forward to. I've heard nothing. There has been I think before right. Yeah I remember when Bobby Lee went for something I think maybe more Mandel feel the people and they came back with like they're like it was one of the greatest thing apart well You know Ruben Paul goes with Russell's right. Yeah and and they say it's fantastic. I'm just I'm bringing pictures of me with Trevor. No one I'm dropping names. You know what Boito boy know so. I'm looking forward to that. Are you gonNa stay like do Any safari stuff. I hope to I hope to do the top of my list of things. A friend of mine did a safari last year. So I know actually. I have a friend named Jonathan Butler. Who's a superstar in South Africa? Jonathan Butler this guy told me he said he's like Stevie wonder if South Africa He's this amazing musician he's literally performed for Mandela and whole thing and it's an shit so he did a safari and he took another friend of mine another musician on any man. He was scared when he saw a lion. And I was like Jonathan. That's the proper response. Yes you supposed like. You grew up there but let me tell you something. You're supposed to be scared when you see a fucking. Yeah I want to see a lion and I will promise you. I'm going to be scared a lion but yeah I would lie. I I almost have to like. Don't think I can go and not do it so we have a day off or something like that. I'm sure they're going to set it out. Set up something for you. Yeah that's amazing. 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181: Vandalism (w/ Matt Besser)

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181: Vandalism (w/ Matt Besser)

"This is a head gum podcast. Mighty shit hits. Welcome back to another episode mighty. It's me yoga. Oy. Number one. I just saw stars born so bear with me the no moon. The Nuba one four Johnny Geel. You gotta do is. Trust me, baby. Joining me as always in the high mighty studios, Arthur Gabor's my nearly silent. Arthur shout amount. All right quiet today because he's not in the room, but I just get into a pattern, and I stick with it and speaking pattern the man who taught me about rule of threes completing the rule of threes on high and mighty we got Matt Besser back for third, Mattie. Be welcome back, sir. Thanks, man. I think we got a good part three that ties all the parts together. Bank. No, it's just like what is the? We'll figure out the umbrella wraps galleon. At least our point of view. Yeah. Because it's going to be favorable to us. But you wanted to come back on to talk one more time because this was pre Halloween, but as schedules go, we didn't get together. The we're we wanna talk Halloween mischief. But I think vandalism is sort of yet. Simultaneously that made me think of it would be a good theme. Yeah. Because it ties to politics, right? Because you're having some issues back home in Arkansas. Yeah. There this politician should we back up? Where should we start feel like that's the end? That's the end is me in a fight with a politician who just got reelected, by the way, we lost. Fuck. And but he blames me for campaign signs being torn down in his district. He literally blames me atheist comedian that made. That's maybe that's the end of. We'll we'll start. We started childhood. Yeah. We she started childhood vandalism because I don't wanna be so gender bias. But there's something about boys young, boys. At least maybe it's maybe it's phased out more now. But I don't think so, but like vandalism like breaking stuff being messy was like there is a thrill of it for some reason messy interesting 'cause I am not messy, and I was not a messy kit. I see it as power mint. And I see it as something that starts when you're going through puberty, which may be. I'm just saying maybe, I don't know. But maybe boys more than during that time period of there's something in you. But like. I think he no matter what the age vandalism does empower someone that doesn't feel like they have power somehow. Right, right. Yes. It makes you feel bigger than you are. Yeah. Yeah. It maybe it's a thrill. I think as we go through the chronology of my vandalism. I haven't thought about it. Too much yet. But I think I haven't ethic interesting and do even as a kid think I had an ethic. Like, I never would. I don't have many stories of just I threw a brick through my neighbor's window for zero reason. Yeah, I can't think in mind did that I would. Think that was fucked up, but I've stuff very close to that. Yeah. I have some moments of pure chaos that were where drunken. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And where I did something that I'm like, I hate that. I did that. But I also have a lot of analysts that I thought was and my I have an ethos as a child to. And I think it was like humor was an element of like if it was undeniably funny, the vandalism. We did like it was like fine in my head. I don't know. That's like terrible. My first jackass, you know, my first carring memory. Of vandalism. I felt righteous in a way. And now you say the funny part. I'm like, yeah. There was it was funny to for reason to so this kid my neighborhood, and he was just a fucking dork in in the what made him a dork beyond just like, however, you normally might judge dork use a tattletale like he got us in trouble. Also, that's how you know that. So that that kid code, right? There is the tattletale who if we were doing something that the parents wouldn't like he would narc on us. I you almost allowed one per friend where they have to flip though, you know, what I mean like you'll always give one understanding like Mattie was in a bind dude we have to go down with. He was in school. That is that's the thing. Then there's the rat level of like, I'm just happy to get other kids. I just don't want to be part of any kids like in my basic you can walk to neighborhood. There was. Around my aides or whatever twelve to twenty kids. Let's say, right. You say my basic in in my I don't know what I said in my neighborhood in my age group. There was just like a pack of kids. Yeah. Yeah. You know that I could walk to their houses. Right. Yes. We have to that area. There is we all had our forts to there was the forts that were in deep woods. And then there was a fort probably every kid had in their own backyard. Right. So the deep woods for was fucking. We won't get into that. Like, it'd be a whole episode deep woods, fort Swiss family Robinson. They're like like in my backyard. I had a four everybody had a Ford our nap tree with the tree house or something there. Right. Because you guys all have in Arkansas, you have big pieces of property. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not on a country farm, but yeah, we do. Everybody has some land in. There's woods very near all of our houses. Cool. Very Stephen King. Kinda scenario. My hood was more suburban because it was Long Island. And no one had a lot of property because we were all like, my fence and be trying we still had the the sump the one piece of public property that had we knew about the hole in the fence. And that's where we hid firecrackers and shit. Like, we we had like the suburban version of it, which was sort of more. Like if you guys were like the navy seals Vietnam. We were like the navy seals of like Baghdad like innocent. We had to do sketchy shit like. Yeah. G our stuff, and this is kind of point of the story, but our stuff was made at a sticks and mud and rocks. And part of a tree very natural Sopher this kid the till the three pigs. He his fort was mad a bricks that has parents had bottom. So just read classic bricks that he stacked in a square in his backyard, and we're all like Hugh fucking door. When we found out about his fort like it appeared just one day. We're like g hear about cameras name good Janis for you know, about it. Always dad Bill before out of bricks square. Guys are all like we're in charge of your own four. It's in a way. So you had like separate fort pride like your fort or like, your dad helped you or whoever helped you. But like you had the I don't think you need that or helping us build Ford's cool. You were just like, I know like. This far back into my yard and to my property. I've got like this bundle of sticks that blocks one. Yeah, we we had that like in a fuck in shrubbery little shift going on there's much balls and lighters. Are going to be thrown at a car at some point porn. You know, there's. Not dad's not part of. A cool. So that's why when there's a break Ford and Janis. So it was not cemented. So you see her? This is I love this already. This is my favorite. How Larry is just to pull one brick out of the bottom layer for and say it all tumble, Dan. So that's what we did. And it came crashing down. And soon as I did it was like I felt. Philip media guilt. I felt so bad, and we all ran pride and think about it for our long period. But at least like. Few days at least like I'd forgotten about it. Ding dong. No, I'm in my room upstairs. Are you doing Mark? Are no Matthew. About brick fort. Oh. I. Line the walls closing in as a kid. No matter how low stakes and is in hindsight. Like, I remember being like I like hit a report card one time. And it's like the feeling of my mom's like, hey, Chris got his report car, and you're like fun, and I can't Michael Clayton. I don't think I I saw the data. I think I was just upstairs. But then my dad. Remember if my dad ever sat me down in. Did you do this to but whatever happened that night? I could not sleep like I'd never lied to my parents like that before eight at me, and I couldn't sleep at never had anything eat at me. Like that before in the next morning. I admitted to it. Oh, and he took my dad took me by and I had to go and politics hits house an apology. Apologize and dude rebuild his door. Kifah kin. Brick for and then you learned a lesson, and it was a straight and narrow path from. Exactly. Was a hated the kiss. Tattle tailing once again, that's such bullshit. So that's the first memory. But even then I I think I felt righteous. But then as soon as I did, I probably maybe it isn't so righteous right soon as I did it. But then you enter the years of how the wean mischief night. Yeah. Tonight was a real thing for you guys. Like, it's the night before Halloween. No, I was gonna ask you like some people did that. All right. Right wing, but ours was just Halloween, but the premise was due sketchy shit. Yeah. Like, the the more fucking weird or fucked up things you did on Halloween like the cooler you were in the neighborhoods like you'll the older kids, dude, they run around with machetes and threaten like the shit. You would hear realize the older kids? Do they have machetes? And if anybody from another town has to fuck with our town, they scare them off. Tune. We gotta do that. You know? It's like we're in sixth grade like Phil purchasing eggs like a month in advance like slowly hiding them in like the fuck in off the side of the highway. Yeah. A was like the the major weaponry. But it was shaving cream. Toilet paper. Rob biscuit. Oh, that's such a good one. And so cheap, right? Because eggs are expensive in also and Halloween of the grocery stores looking out for that bullshit. They see fucking. Yeah. Walking. And they're looking for a. My family wanted me to get breakfast. For today. Thirteen green have twin shaving. It's like cartons me. How Hala weaned kids trying to by fog and eggs is like trying to buy Sudafed in like Mississippi. I'll let me get twelve boxes of. This nasal decongestion sketch. It makes me think a New Mexico in these blue laws on Sundays the alcohol would go by aqua net and shit on Sundays. Cares. All you need is a little foresight, you need one days, but we we would. So the toilet papers kind of the most innocent form of vandalism. Let's your that's like your training wheels in most people's vandalism ever going to do that training wheels vandalism, and then it's also sort of allowed vandalism because when we're in high schools. Yeah. Like in high school you toilet paper on the pep rally. The football players all toilet paper that cheerleaders houses and the cheerleaders all toilet paper football players houses. And it was like those are not those are adults houses of sixteen year old. They don't want fucking toilet paper. But toilet vapors like the minimum. Like, no one gets mad. We had a color code. Did. You guys have. No, like if I can't remember exactly what it was something. Like this like if you get pink toilet paper, that's flirtatious in blue means going out with you. Why is like fuck you? That's awesome. There was some kind of color code non white toilet paper in a long time about. But I remember like growing up like GRA my grandma had like pink toilet paper. Like, this is so weird. But now talk about preparing once I got into that. Like once I got into the thrill, you get like a fucking journal in rush at the very least when you do it. And as a kid, I was like this. This is now who knows what age I started. But from then on that was my favorite holiday now. Preparing the whole years that meant stealing my dad's shaving cream, stealing those aerosol tops that you can stick on the top of shaving cream. You know that trick. Right. No. You don't. So for an aerosol can like for like when you have underarm that kind of right, right? You can take that little piece off you take that piece off the other thing off the shaving cream shaving cream will launch it'll go even further. Yeah. Doesn't fee. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's great for tack and people sharing some steel on those all year round. I'm taking like the last toilet paper. Like, I'm I'm doing slyly. So not just taking. They're not noticing this. You're doing Shawshank style. Or you're like. Guess where it's at in my fucking four. So yeah, I'm stockpiling toilet paper the whole year round. So by the time, I I'm stealing from grandparents visit on Sunday. 'push by the time. Halloween comes round. I don't need to go buy any. I'm fully stockpiled. Eggs. So that's where you're kind of crossing that connects. Yeah. Because that'll fuck up your car, and people would get really fucking best or the side. You're and it could and it could break fucking an egg and break something, you know, what I mean? Like just thrown it like just remember being like that didn't sound like just an egg. And you hear about people getting face fucking. I got hit in the fucking like base of the skull one time like these kids just fucking beat me, and my friends mercilus, really. Yeah. I never I never did that to me. It was vandalism wasn't ever. Let's attack these people with eggs with with shaving cream. Yeah. Handfuls of shaving cream. Just get smacked in the it was all about like if you ran into kids older, it was literally like days and confused the older kids ran into your like, we got a jet, dude. Thank you be like stay in your neighborhood because you knew the yards from playing manhunt. So it's like on Halloween. We want get crazy. It's like if everything gets fucked up, we even meet at the trail. We were the names of the things that we had a trail, which we we knew it was just called the trail. But really it was six houses linked with that you can go through without climbing. Offense, flip to the other side of the street in the suburbs. Which is like a fucking ninja move. If you don't have to climb six so we had like the trail. And then there's another one where there was like three or four houses in a row that had no like you can like shimmy through the fences and that had a different name. And we had like breakdown plans like if we're tact. Here. We gotta make sure we all meet at the L that only we know about because this is our neighborhood, and it was like trying to avoid older kids the whole time. It was like the warriors. But with like fucking cartoon weapons. Yeah. Ours was more Destin in like late night and planned attacks of homes or card, and I feel like it's conceit of us. Having more people on top of each other. Like, you know, every house where you know on one block. We can have twenty-five kids right on the same age the ages of ten and sixteen or. Yeah. So I think just from the matter of being on top of each other. It became about rivals rather than like, but we would still be like we gotta get Connor's house that motherfucker got my mom's house. The dome story I've told my own podcast before. But it's it's life forming story is. I plant I'm gonna get my fucking neighborhood. Like, my immediate neighborhood, the Warren block, I live on. I'm like I'm gonna get every fucking house in the neighborhood. Now, I'm thinking, I'm thinking was this even Halloween. My not even done this on Halloween. That's an upgrade when you start doing pranks and mischief not on Halloween. That's remember when you start more than just that bachelor parties, I was so stupid. This is like a fucking fable. I I did it and I got every fucking house nailed the house, especially didn't like the people in. As an it took all night because I started way late. This is why think it was on Halloween. 'cause I think just mean another guy did it Halloween been more of us. So I think like a guy state over we just did it snug out or. Yeah. So sun's coming up. We've got every fucking house in the neighborhood looking around the neighbor disco in we did it, man. This is beautiful just toilet paper. And and just show shaving cream. Just toilet paper. Every tree in the neighborhood. My dad is coming out of the house in his fucking robe kidding. The fucking morning newspaper, and I make eye contact with them, and I feel like I'm two houses away like in the street like outside our house, and he just looks. In looks at the hull street in you can just see the steam out of years. Finley caught instantly instantly. Now, even a moment to the like, I thought it would be a mystery. But this is what was so dumb. I know where this is going. You didn't do your own house in do my own fucking house. Everyone knows it's Besser. Because I think I directed tonight. It for my dad points. Our house has no fucking toilet paper in every doom. So guess what? I'm doing for the next three hours people wake up and come out of their houses apologizing and taking down the God. I'm I'm getting everyone's garden hose in fucking in their front yard hosing down their toilet paper and apologizing to all my neighbors, including the really old ones without kids. Don't know what the votes. That makes me so happy. Like, I'm so good. That's what my parents taught me doing right because it escalates as you get older and older. And you're like now, we have a car the big the big thing other Halloween vandalism that we enjoyed was destroying decorations. Like, if you had something pumpkins, and the big thing that we escalated to the the vandalism that stands out the most in my mind is. I grew up in my neighborhood. There was at least at the time period. Those like wooden reindeer were very popular that we're like white just like legs. They like were minimalist reindeer all white with like. Always people always had two of them. So we started by always switching every one of them to be fucking like always mount. And then we're like that's really funny and then escalated to getting about twenty reindeer from all around the neighborhood and setting it up in the middle of the street a reindeer orgy, and we thought that was fucking hysterical for all the parents taking him back. And then the third time we didn't we gathered them all up, and then just started fucking driving. Our cars through we set up like twenty reindeer in the middle of the street, and we're just doing donuts Buick. It's. We were like this is the Neville fuck and ending to this breaking them. So let's just we've walking smashed our cars into it. That's funny. Yeah. You guys are you are more of a jackass in my head. I think I was always rationalizing like let's get to the politics side of it like. Voting day election day is always near Halloween. There's always campaign signs that was always part of it was knocking down signs, but I would never knock down at democrat sign. No way. Even back then as a kid it was our team versus their team. That's so awesome. And like no about the difference between Democrats into twenty six or something. I grew up when you know, the Clintons were bear. Governor. And there is this Republican politician Frank white who didn't ever Lucien tot in the public schools and all the Democrats started wearing these banana pins to make fun of them. And became like this thing of like fuck Republicans. They're stupid in that became tied to religion. And we don't need to go down this past too far. But I had this whole religion anti religious bugaboo because of my parents want how far down road Roach, we go. Let's go. All right. But my my dad's Jewish and my mom's Christian the Christian side hated the Jewish side in a very way your life, your family, the families the families. Yeah, that's wild. Like, they're very against my parents marrying in they're very antisemitic. And I've read the letters on my show. I'm sure you've been on my show. And I've read my grandmother's sledders to my mom. I think I remember one of these. Yeah. Yeah. It was pretty bad there from north west, Arkansas. So you can imagine it even hic. That's like the hick part of Arkansas. North west. Or is it just like a more old school part of being? Priok better way to put it like, for instance. They're pretty much are no Jews up there. There are no black people. So it's like it was a special kind of prejudiced of like there weren't there were no Jews around for them to be prejudiced against theory. Yeah. And then meets a real Jew, which they've never even been around. Yeah. So they don't even know. How are we all will they literally in these letters? Call them yellow, I jus. So that's the kind of hate that was going on in our family in the Jews Jewish site. Didn't hate the Christian side like my Jewish grandparents to think about that stuff. Like, they're very sweet people. So and so to you you saw the lived in a state where Jews were huge minority. So we felt like they were the underdogs always kind of identified with them for. So when you have politicians that are big evangelical Christians and against things like evolution. It starts. Thanks, mike. You like. I'm gonna fan. What is for good? So that's. Yeah. So we started stealing campaign signs in. This wasn't unique to my friends. This was done, you know. Oh, yeah. And but we would take a lot like in a night, we get fucking fifty signs and put them in the back might Toyota Celica, and this is getting into my teens driving like the started when I was a kid on Halloween, but always do it when it became election time. And we would go dump them behind the Little Rock racquet club in this ditch. Like a fucking elephant graveyard back there Republican. Science. But then the other target was the seminary which at night. I don't think anyone was there. There is a seminary near in the area where we lived in the heights of Little Rock, and it was pretty much abandoned at night. I'm surely must have had a guard there, but he must have been asleep or non-existent. We never got busted. But we were always break and shit at the seminary like taken these Saint statues that were out front had these crucifixes are crosses rather in their hands. And we would take the cross out of the hands of the Saint and replace it with a Republican campaign sign. Yeah. So we felt were being clever and it was right? Just. Yeah. That's that's that's the heart of the problem with vandalism is like when you like macro it out. It's like, yeah. Come on fucked. And then when you might grow it, it's like whoever's the old man that has come out there and fix that. Every you know, it's like those are the two things together where you're like, I don't mean for this old man's life to be harder budgetary meeting at the seminary when they had to buy the new cross worth time. We won't be able to feed homeless this weekend because to save money for office. Steel Mooney signs, the Moonies Unification Church a cult. They would sell roses. Just all the time everywhere. Craziest places craziest times day and night. And and I had a big bugaboo about cults to just completely antics, coal anti-religion. That was a big obsession for me my team. That's so interesting because it's sort of stuck in a way, you know, like became a hobby almost. Yeah. Like, you're sort of like, it's it's not Antea thority. It's like anti like singular authority like sting. Yeah. Because it's not like you're against the establishment. But you're against these people who like phoniness. That's what drives you crazy. Haven't been lies improv theaters. But maybe I should. So in fuck inflaming the pit. But. Oh my God. Let me be clear though on on. Sorry. No, no worries. Like, I have done drunken. Even then like the one that sticks out in my mind at college. There is we it's one of those nights where you can barely walk. You're so drunk, and we just Jimmy open this fucking random door at the college. And it was the light bulb room. Winner winner chicken dinner, holy shit. We. It was like something to three stooges like, what would be a great room three stooges they store. The light bulb every college has room or they store all the light bulb. That's. In college. We were just one second away from like ruining our own possessions. You know, what I mean like we're always one second away from a dude one of my roommates in college, and I'm not gonna name him because he fucking like sophomore years school. Well, first of all software, your schools, somebody broke a fucking sprinkler head in the hallway as a prank while we were all like at class, and we woke up in the entire first floor of this dorm was flooded. Everyone anything on the floor got ruined. And we like the school wasn't gonna pay. And then my dad told me to say that he worked at FOX five and that you're going to get like ask Acer like I was going to get like one of those like investigative reporters to come to the college. So then they came back and offered us all money in and then like four years later, one of my roommates is like I was the one who broke the fucking thing. I just couldn't tell you guys then and it's like any just took scissors and just fucking we call them the scissor king from like ages twenty four to question, Mark. Because he just took out scissors and just smashed the fire skipping off for no reason. Other than like prank chaos. We used to do fine line between prank and Cass as you say it too because I'm like, oh, I can think of things in college that I would put more in a prank category. And I'm thinking, what makes it a prank versus fanned? Eliza. Well, vandalism is maybe against a higher power in a prank is against op person or a singular entity in some way 'cause I and vandalism has like. I don't know a prank is maybe less. Militias less malicious because let me tell you type because it's interesting as I have I have a billion vandalism stories that pop into my head. But I'm also so anti-vehicle ISM. I guess that's why like to point out the hope and ethos to it like, I'm sure that like graffiti artists have and speaking of that. So we're at the Daniel, and I are visiting Greece and have you ever been Athens? No. And it's it's like one of those places you feel you have to go to write your like gotta go to Greece. And I gotta go to Athens during feel isn't that a lot of people's checklists? You go got to go to the Parthenon in Athens. Right. Dude. People vandalize. I'm sure that's where the original vandals were right? They vandalize the Parthenon. I could not get over. I was so angry. I was drawn on it. Instead the amount of times we saw guns and roses. Just guns and roses written on the Parthenon spray painted, not even in some cools graffiti on. Shitty. Writing guns in fucking magic marker. Why guns and roses that so the time I went there the time we went there. I remember thinking the same thing going why guns N roses, and I feel like are. They just like ten years behind us or something. It'll be nirvana in five years from now. That's brutal that I'm against that. You know, it made me so fucking angry in that same trip. We were. In another museum. And some museums in some countries are you picture every museum but being like America museums there so fucking buttoned up and you're getting nowhere near fuck in art. No chance you're gonna get near them me or whatever. Right. Some east European countries. You can swap right up to the shit. We were in a place that had Minoan pottery, which I believe is the oldest pottery civilized I'm talking to ask a little bit. But it's definitely when the oldest pod right in civilization in the resigns in every language that said, please do not touch the the pottery in people going up to in fucking putting their hands picking it up. And I was going nuts. That would stress me out to that. Was someone have time to write guns and roses on the side of the Parthenon? How's that even possible? Just it's just being like that lacks of secure. I mean, I'm sure it's changed could write something on the Lincoln Memorial. Tonight. If you saw somebody doing that. Hey, man, what are you doing arcade? Fire. What the fuck? Here's the other. Convene, wasn't drives me crazy. I've lived in Santa Fe a lot of my life. And they had these beautiful Aspen. Trees. And my saying the right kind of tree. Those those are the ones that are like white on the side, and the you can call people carve their fucking names in the side of these trees, see what you're walking through. A beautiful forest in. It's just like if you're sticking on the trail is just up and down the trail. He loves. Yeah. Yes. A lot of that loves band names. And so and so low so so right. That are fuck so and so or pussy that I'm gonna write the word pussy to a tree. So that whenever I walk past. It could be like, yeah. That was. I wrote on the part of my last summer, drink drinking beer. Yeah. The go road pussy on the Redwood tree because that was a thing in the Redwood north northern California for a while too. I think they had to like figure out like, you know, there's like now rules and people pay attention like, no, no carving in the trees, so many will just carving, and it stays forever. I know trees live forever, and the is hilarious word. But the, you know. J g plus t g is going to grow up the tree and be fucking, right? Thirty feet up. J g get up there just make room for more people to come just keep filling this with fucking scar tissue where you get the right? And then you'll see like something that's Kim to that. But not it's like good vandalism. Like also in Europe. I can't think exactly I've seen this. But seen it several times where you'll be on a bridge, and they put locks on the bridge. We've seen that. Yeah. Yeah. The key. When you get married or something that you do it to like, you're with a partner, there's one in Paris. I saw in a lot of cities. Yeah. Yeah. Looks cool in some places. The city does not want you to do it. They'll even say they'll have special locks to buy a special place for you to do it and people like fuck that put the locks. That's a noise for you to break that that's exciting to me. So that's the kind of thing where it's kind of beautiful in a way, even though it's vandalism right? But yeah. Because that's like symbolic. Yeah. Like stealing stealing things was like a big form of like. And I guess. Because there's like stealing funny things to have like if you had like like we like one of the things, and you can see a pattern here as we used to. We didn't have any political beliefs growing up. So we just would steal all the politicians and put them on like one person's house like where we knew a teacher. Sixty on the front lawn, a guest who board or whatever. But then college would be so funny to like come back to your dorm. It's like is that a cafeteria table and six chairs, you're like? Yup. It's like when the as finding we're gonna get in trouble where like, Yup. It's just funny to us to have that for asking your male energy out of like, I got to prove myself. It's gonna steal this table. That's impossible to steal someone said like all you wanna do in like is like fighting fuck, and you can't do either. So you just like. That is it though because I wasn't doing either. For the most part, and you do just have the. I'm not saying excuses it, but no problem energies starting in high school. I feel like a lot of kids do guys, and you know, all across all genders. It's just like how it's acted out. I think yeah. I think it's traditionally comes out and boys is like vandalism in rough housing and one thing we still was the whole the hulkamania hulk life-size Hoke cardboard cutouts that were in seven eleven. Oh, yes. Auf in you totems, and a special case there is like a a summer when they're all out. And that was our it was so funny because they would end up like, Mike our closet. So we would like at night in you know, stick it. My mom came in like why are there? Three hulk Hogan's in your closet. Excuse that's the funniest. Yeah. And that's because the season -ality of things to made it like well now we have like a target. That's why like pumpkins or so fun to like smash because you're like, you're like hell, yeah. Now, there's just pumpkins out and people you to get rid of them in a month. Anyway, made the paper on the hulk HOGAN one that's off weeding cut. But it was like a rush of hulk Hogan's being still in because you guys were just here. Like, hey, I the says on thirty four is the seven eleven thirty. Yes. Kind of ballsy too. That's a big thing. You are stealing right? Yeah. Stealing. You're stealing like giant thing. Sticking your pocket. It's like what it also serve circles around that area of almost no value and sort of Jansen transient. It's going to be gone in three months. Anyway, that's a great point. Because even a five cent jolly rancher is more on the stealing side than exactly HOGAN. I agree with you on that. Yeah. I can't remember what I was. He must have been for slurpy. I can't remember what it was four. Or was it just for hulkamania must have been for something. Yeah. I'm sure it was a tie in with some shit. You know, he was like selling fucking soda or something like that to kids. Yes. So in our heads like so that's what I'm saying. Like, I feel it my friend did remind me of this the going back to the stealing this just bad. But there was there's this movie people should look up. It's called suburbia in. It's not the one you're thinking of. It was a punk rock movie called suburbia. It's the most the way it shot is so fucking punk in real in. There's the scene in it. And I can't remember what bands plans probably D, I Richard hung himself. Ichard hung himself say this fucking kick ass fucking song plan in what these in the movie these punks are going into people's garages in where people have meat freezers in their garages. You know in the summer people's drudge doors are just open for whatever reason and everybody has a fucking meat freezer where I'm from southern California to some sure that's where this shot, and it's just this montage going into fucking meat freezers steel into stakes. And we saw that movie. Like, that's so fuck who we gotta go do that. That's awesome. Yeah. That is that one day we went, and we went to these fuck, rich suburbs. And when people's drudge doors, we just read it winter, meet freeze, still steaks. All that's so awesome. Crazy, though, did you go and other people's pools in their back yards and shit pool. Hopping that was kind of big in the summer, and then also like when you were after you're done pool hopping fro in like all their patio furniture or something stupid like that told you the story, but your listeners private heard, it this is this is my epic story. So mad dog twenty twenty. Yes, we talked about this. I think I don't know if I know the story yet, and I know a lot of the stories touring. Everybody has a mad dog for my generation. I don't know what the new thing. Drink is just gets you drunk in a half hour that was mad dog twenty twenty. And. Yeah. And then like forties of malt liquor. You know, like, oh you drink old age. You know, what I mean and even malt liquor takes a little bit longer like, David. You can just like any way you can get twenty twenty wine had like content of wine, but like you could drink it like it was beer. So it wasn't like crazy alcohol content. Anyway, it got you. It's like hash brains. Got you way. More fucked up than you imagined you're gonna be we're also new find yourself in place. Like, how did I get in this place cheap? Yeah. How wiser police irons in the car behind me? And I'm in the backseat of this story. So. So we're we're skinny dipping one night. We're at this party were. Drunk duck twenty twenty she was so cheap to and it's like, let's go skinny dipping. Let's go to the community pool and Kim's neighborhood. Yeah. Let's do that. So she lived in this kind of wasn't gated neighborhood. But definitely like. People get in. There was definitely a gate around the community pool that we climbed over. So we're skinny dipping in the community pool. It's like. Four of us and. Two women two guys. We I'm like oh shit. Everyone's skeedaddle 's perfect word what we're doing because we're like data is like, where's your fucking clue Beadle running away? My closer everywhere to write my shirts. They're short there. I grab my yellow Lacoste shirt in my black. Hi tops in. That's all I can find we all are climbing over this fence trying to escape all going different directions because scatter, and we're not my cars, no around. So I think we'd walked they're just blind drunk. So we're not looking for a car. So we literally just running in all directions. Meet you back at the party is the vibe. I I'm trying to impress the women in the group trying to impress everybody. Once again, it's going back to that energy. I guess. Great punctuation male energy. Screamed mad dog doing Arthur just about his property. I'm the mad dog here. I'm the mad dog now dog some like I'm going to be a hero. I'm going to distract the police. So everyone else can get away. So I find you. Fuck you pay. Italy. Those words fuck you pig. I can't see the police at this point. Where once again, there's this pools kind of surrounded by woods. Hours from now. I'm from this point in the story. I told what's happening at this point in story when I say fuck, you pig this, compass telling us, all right guys, you shouldn't be here just closed and get out of here. And he's gonna let us go. He's being cool. Of course, his at minimum. He's supposed to scare you out of the. Martic pig rings out. Your friends are engaging with him. An awesome. I friends like come in like a sweet talker. Like, it's all fine. Fuck you pig. He's like what who is that my friends say, we don't know that. We just met him. His name is Charles. We just met him in the pool. We don't know that guy. He's like cut to I'm on the run with no pants high tops and a yellow shirt on. And that's exactly what's being put into the AP. We got off. Sixteen-year-old AT like eight year old white male, yellow shirt and. Name's charles. Dude, I ran away from this cop for hours because the party was a long distance away walking wise. Remember, how it got to this pool Dong out? Yes. Or wrapped my shirt around your full ways on. I'm in backyards, Tom earlier, I'm running through backyards, stay off the streets because you think cops are driving up and down and looking dogs are barking, obviously people's backyard. I think throw police dogs some drunk on my mind that make sense, and I'm an episode of Hogan's heroes, and there's fucking German shepherds probably all fucking shit, suits. And they're coming from inside people's houses or maybe yards, whatever. But I'm hearing dogs all around 'cause I'm running through backyards dogs going fucking nuts in my mind that police dogs jump into a creek. Like Hogan's heroes like. I find a straw. I think going to breathe through the empty read. In the mud while the Doberman, Jim over me. And who knows what was really going on. I'm basically this wall around in the fucking mud. Reads. So is good amount of time. Like, it was at least two hours, I'm running through these fucking backyards trying to get from neighborhood and neighborhood in their farm. There's lots of cop cars, and I see them. I see cop cars, and I hear them, and I'm like holy fucking shit eventually in this apartment complex hiding in this woodpile and like I've sent him fucking new. I can't dislike knock on the go. Walk down a normal street. All right. Yeah. You walk into a seven eleven it'd be like, oh, you're buying a. Roese? Covered him like said fucking. Shit. Like, you're like I blood like when Rambo shows up that smell. Like that small town. Everyone's like, what's with this guy? So then I'm in this would pile and finally a light hits does fuck in spotlight. That's on the car. A cop cars hits the pile. Charles come on. Trolls out. Charles. I have not heard this drunk head. But I think they're looking for some gun Charles. Oh, I thought they're looking for me. I'm not Charles. Meanwhile, you don't. Yeah. You can't connect the story. Right. Right. So I come out, and I'm like who knows what look like come like naked covered in mud. I'm not Charles. You guys are getting back. Commie Charles getting the back of the fucking car. Charles. And that's like my whole mine defense for the first five minutes. Sol's? Only thing. Yeah. We're also looking for a naked guy with a yellow shirt and your fucking Donald Duck in around the neighborhood. That's and begged him to take me downtown to jail rather than home. And he took me home. Oh. Yeah. It's the worst my mom's life, maybe not that. But definitely part I spent with her. At least from what I was around for. I would that was the worst I caused. Jesus christ. That's really funny. That's so is that vandalism skinny dipping I didn't count that. Now that's trespassing which is another sort of harmless victimless crime that kids love where you're like. Oh, we just hang out in the park. We drink in the that was the thing you would just every weekend. Starting in ninth grade eighth grade if you were a little cooler, you just be in one of the parks drinking, hopefully, some older kid. Gotcha guys beer and just drinking till the cop showed up and running away. And then as you went home based on your car fuse getting into whatever shenanigans, and like that was all that was like junior high through high school and that was like every weekend. Once once we found like drinking, the vandalism became less. You know, it was like less about that kind of stuff and more like because I like the big thing, I did was beyond vandalism arson. I like we used to play with what used to shoplift lighters from CVS and then just light shit on fire and put. It out. We thought it was like the fucking. I mean, I don't know what it is. That's not arson. Did you ever light a building or something? What happened was we were fucking. We made like a bomb like a paper bag filled with crab apples and balled up newspaper and be like, so funny. There's this big sand pit at our elementary school. We're in junior high at this point like, oh, no where go now mention school. And it's like, there's a huge sandpit. We should put this bomb in enlighten on fire. Be so cool and it like jump to some dry grass, and we couldn't put it out and the entire like elementary school field because his dry this dry. All catches fire and the fucking name. People are outside of their houses like the houses that bought up against the with hoses and shit. And I I call nine one one I'm like, there's a fire, and I stayed there and just like got in trouble, and it was the fucking worst. And I like stop playing with fire like literally got kind of scared of fire from that point on the rest of my life and fought me up so bad. I had to go to summer camp and next day for a week sleep away camp. So I like woke up my and my parents are working that night. So I was just like staying in my friend's house because the cops brought me home, and my parents weren't home. Of course. Working parents like setting Faisal's be home watching his brothers setting fires and fucking get like go to camp comeback seven days later. I'm so tired from camp and don't wanna face. My dad that silent. My friend's mom drives us home. So I just come home and gone, really tired. And I go to bed it's like three in the afternoon, and I sleep to like eleven AM the next day, and I'm not even sleeping for huge chunks of it. I just don't want to write initiate the next response. And then my dad just comes in and goes wake up and he takes me to the park. And he makes me like stand there and look at it for like twenty every time I go to turn around don't turn around. Stay look at what you did. And it's just like a week later in the field is all black. Fucking like it was like I felt like rabbits. Yeah. I felt like a monster. It was true. It was like a cleared field. It was like baseball. Remember, there's no. Marvin the making of this little quail baby. One lady screaming. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Yeah. I was fascinated by fire but stealing. Big was stealing street signs was that ever big. We like to challenge of we try. We we planned and schemed with a Taco Bell. There were actual. I don't know if they had that we from their actual taco bells and some of the taco bells and the south L. No, we didn't we scheme to steal that. We didn't pull that off. I don't know if I've told you we were trying to get into the Bill tower of the state capital. And that's the first time I ran into Bill Clinton told you that story. Oh, yeah. We were like twelve or thirteen and the the Arkansas capital like the nation's capital that same kind of dome. And so we're like we gotta get up in the dome and fuck around with the Bill. And we're just walk around losses. We're just walking offices that we're not supposed to be in. And who's in the building trying to get? Yeah. Like we walk up now lying. My get shot. Can we literally walked into Clinton's Oval Office? And he was in there. And he goes are you sandy Besters boy because they knew my their friends of my parents, just like my dad. I'm like, yes, sir. What are you doing in here? Like, we're loved you're looking for the whatever the Clinton. And got recognized by that's awesome. That's. Politics. But yes, I'll world. That's cool. Yeah. That's trespassing story. But like, yeah vandalism. I feel like even in college. That's when you get so drunk and. Like I felt like it was there was always an enemy. Whether it was the the dorm. We didn't like or the guy from the baseball team. We didn't like it wouldn't just like senseless except for the light bulbs. Still that was the college. I guess that's pretty senseless was getting away with stuff. Like, it was I went to college in like a pre Instagram pre social pre internet. I mean, we had the internet, but we use it for Email in games and porn, but we still did things like to flex. You know what I mean? Like we in sophomore year, we were so happy we lived in one of the tighter security buildings because we didn't have we weren't one of the better students freshman year, but we fucking snuck a keg in through the window. And it's like the windows don't open enough. But if you get like a drill bit like we did like so much effort and just to be like, yo you heard that the one twelve guys had a keg in their room. We would just do things just for like the status element of it of like we like set like we at our own party as we would like set our Christmas tree on like, we got Christmas jury one year, we came back. We had a welcome back for like the back of the we set the Christmas tree on. Learn anything at the field. We college was a pro dude I've wish I thought of it at the time to take a photo or make a copy or scan of the letter that our senior year landlords sent to all of our parents. It was like a fucking opening to a eighties like frat comedy. It was like the the reason you will not be receiving your security deposit bag is because of the following and like a laundry list of the most insane. Like all patio furniture was found in the trees downstairs was one of two foot high high of broken glass, just like say, my parents were like how are you fucking living. We painted the entire I like to rooms in our first floor with chalk board paint against the rules of the house. And so we could just write whatever the fuck. We wanted on it. We had like we had a beer. Pong room to kick. It was so disgusting and the fucking my parents were like Jonathan you're graduating college this year. We my dream is for someone from Amherst college to hear this podcast in find this place, describe oh, hell, yeah. In in certain dorms, like if you would like peel back the wall, which we did on at least two different houses, you would find shit from like fraternities in the fifties that have been written on the walls or shit like that. It'd be like being in a pyramid or something. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. That's like your Indiana Jones at that point speaking appearance. There is the dorms that used to be called a dorms beacon amorous people now. But now they have a name for him. But at that point there were called a dorm and be doing we lived in a dorm on the top floor. And there was this. Unofficial attic. Like an attic, you're not supposed to be in like there's no entrance officially from your room to the attic. But by using a drill a hammer you could get up into this attic area. So we made a whole extra party room up there, and we call it each. Egypt because the shape it was like a pyramid since it's the roof park foaming dude. Awesome. So we had tapestries hanging, and my friend. Eric Miller, we called space warriors. This big old dude had this hammer using geology class, and he would just fuck in hammer out the walls. To make more room to make more room upstairs. That's awesome. What was his nickname space warriors base for your you've probably met space worry comes around in perfumes or once in a while. I think I may have met this, dude. But that is the coolest nickname. I've ever heard in my entire life. Yeah. He space where it because he'll be Millicent. Hey space, where you're you're tell the story. Office space battles. That's a fucking cool ass nickname. Hey, man, you're in the middle of them. Founded in space that's going on out though that that give us a weather report from space. Egypt. So so if you're saying if you live in what is now the dorm on the top floor. Yeah. You gotta or sell. And take some pictures for me because it's got a still there's got to be remnants. That's so awesome. I love that kinda shit. There were the steam tunnels at Amherst, you could break into and that's kind of where we'd have our keg parties. Like, that's the ground network. That's so fun. Yeah. Marriage. Didn't have that bullshit. That sounds like a fucking do you have to be an old old building? Whether it's like, there's just an old old property where like vestige Owl's of other things like steam tunnels, for example, like that's so fucking cool. That's like some fucking skull and bones shit. It is it is in some in some of the fraternities were nasty fraternities like the history of him. So it is almost like. Oh, yeah. Some devilish fraternities like the dark side of fraternity. Fuck do that's because the swimming people know, but Amherst banned fraternities at one point bottle the houses. And then refurbish them all that's why I'm saying there's layers of fraternity behind what the school over the fraternity that's wild. So what would be cut like kind of? I think it kind of changed before I got there. But like, it'd be like, yeah. I live in TD. What's TD? Oh, it's not called TD anymore. It's called Seligman or was the name of the night. Right. That makes sense. Now, it's coed and anyone can live there. Not just rich sons of rich assholes. That's freshman freshman year of college. We lived I live in what was the basement of a building. And it was like shitty. Like, no windows, but it was groundfloor. So they didn't put any women on the floor. So the floor was all dudes interesting because they didn't want, but like they also did mail floor female floor. Like, we didn't like. Because it was a Catholic college. But if you were in the basement, you can get anyone into the building. If there's these red tags that they put on the window if you cut it, they'll know you open the window past a certain point. And it's like all you gotta do. If you're an entrepreneur is go to Home Depot and fix yourself up some red tags. We just bought red tags, and we would put him on fresh like every morning because we just I literally hyperbolic and maybe racist for me to say, but I was running like an underground railroad of dudes and women whose girlfriend's lived in my building whose partners lived in my building man manure hero, very here. 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Are like RA was this was literally named ox or moose, and he was his big fucking lacrosse player from like the Ozarks. He's just like this big farm boy. And he was so didn't know how to be an RA. He clearly had some deal with NC double A to be an RA to get free. And he was like we played flip Cup with Dr Pepper on the first day of freshman areas. And even know what to do like that was like not he was like, okay. Alcohol. So we're gonna play flip Cup. But with Dr Pepper roll. Like this is same. But yeah, our floor was like a violent group of jogs freshman year, and the people I started hanging out with all these like meat heads like. It was like two crew guys like five football players. A few baseball players a couple of weirdos like four rugby players. And it was just like the floor was we were the basement we were basement points. Like, it was just like we perfectly. We call ourselves the basement, boys. There's like perfect absolute scumbag ary, and like every built every apartment I lived in on-campus got a reputation like we were like van wilder like a one twelve and then we were n one, and then we were sunset everyone knew about like, oh, the n one boys that set up into their fucking living room again going back to our theme of trying to prove oneself. And then you're so right, right. Yeah. Which I was doing more than you're because you were a big guy. But like I was always trying to prove myself as an athlete and finally found. Found then soccer, which I became good at I thought. In arkansas. And when I was choosing colleges I had the balls the bravado the gumption to when I went from school to school. Meet the soccer coaches of the school. They were recruiting me. This is the days before you to. People didn't know how good you were on a we went to state my team. But we're in Arkansas like Arkansas soccer was way behind what was going on in the northeast like it just didn't compare in. I didn't know that. I'm like I went to fuck in state. I started on my high school, and I went to St. I'm good. And I mean, all these coaches, they thought I was too wouldn't you? It was good. He's like he played his state level ribbons through. And I'm getting recruited at these good good division three for soccer, and including Amherst like the fucking coach gave me a tour of the fields and everything I get their freshman year. I'm like, why am I on the floor with all the football players. All these guys are huge thought. I thought it'd be a soccer players. One of these guys goes, hey, this is like the first day. Let's go down the fields play soccer. I'm like, oh, great. Mike all football players running down the field to play soccer in realize. Oh, they're not football players. Just muscular athletic guys, easily soccer here. What the hell's happening? Why are they body? Checking me never had body checking before and soccer like I never had someone kind of like try to muscle me out pick up in the south like football is. So prominent that it's like, even if you suck at football you play football rather than soccer. Yeah. In awesome. My generation's the first generation play soccer south that makes sense. That makes news all the kids too skinny to play. But anyway, my grandpa was from Germany, my dad's stepdad, so he like us from Berlin. He'd like soccer. He was a soccer player in soccer ref and soccer is huge in our lives like from childhood because most please. Yeah. Yeah. And so I'm trying to find meaning in the vandalism here. But like at that point. I thought it was an athlete's freshman year of college. I think I'm a soccer athlete. I realized two days into this. I'm nowhere near the level of these guys. Like, I'm not playing soccer here. Well, I tried I played in. And then I was on the JV team. Then I was like on the bench for the JV team was like fuck this, right? You played soccer for like a full year full season of JV. Yeah. And I played intermural for years. Once you've got out of that. I'm going to at least still place, right? It intermural had the real soccer players in it too. But but anyway, that kind of took away my masculinity or whatever the woman perceived masculine. Yeah. One thing I was like, okay. I'm I'm trying to analyze myself. Yeah. You're like, that's like, you were self identifying as an athlete, right? And you not a fan of anything being phony. It's like I can't be a phony guy still pretend to be a soccer player. I can't even like continue the sharrad on myself. So now, I have left is. Animal house like. When when we're going through the when the nation was going through the cavenaugh trial. I kept going. There was a whole generation that was fucked up by the movie animal house Vincent of that. Like to be as fun. Is that movie is it teaches you how to be an awful, man. Right. Well, it's it's there's it's very dated in that. It's like women they're like voyeurs. There's like a date rape sequence. There's like racist, racism racism elements. It's like fucked up inputting all those aside because those aren't the elements stayed with me was get really drunk and go crazy. That's that's what I took away from that movie. Right. So that's what you did. And that's how college was perceived movies all the time. Yeah. And that's what you still that way. I don't know if it's still that way. I think there's like the woke college trope saying about the athletes. Unlike what you are saying the soccer guys were kind of goody two shoes. Like they. Jay were serious about soccer. And you know, Amherst was a good school. They were serious about coming doctors. And all that stuff. Yes. He marries tickling being the party is necessary ensures thing. Yeah. Marriage party. So I'm -mongst all these. Big, you know, for real guys who look like men, but I'm the one like trying to. To make up for acting. The craziest try to make up for it. Right. That makes total sense. I mean, that's sort of. That sort of an origin story like similar mind to where it's like I didn't fit in with like nerds or jock. So I was just like I'm just going to be the funny crazy guy and everybody's going to like me in my head. Murphy totally annoyed by you, exactly. And then it's like, oh, I'm just absolutely polarizing. Yeah. I was I was I was more popular with the class ahead of me behind me than my own class. That's for sure. Yeah. I was more popular with. With like. Scumbags kind of like pick. Dirtbag people really liked me. All I wanted to do. Thank God, we became comedians because that's that was such a goal of mine. Oh, like in college was I just wanted to be considered funny by so many people. And then thank God. I've also thank God, I found comedy. Because I I'd be so upset with myself. I'm curious how I'd be acting out. Like what I'd be like, you know, what I mean? So let's tie this up in a bow of I went to by the way, we've done now, pranks, confrontations and vandalism. As try of it's useful aggression who. Or outlets for aggression. Whether you find useful or not, but. I tried to put my comedy to us on this election. I went to Little Rock in Conway because there's this politician Jason Raipur, who's just an awful, man. He's he's an evangelical. He is spent he spent years he's been there. I think eight years in office at this point his big projects have been changing the name of the airport taking the Clinton name off of the airport. She hates the Clintons inputting the ten commandments on the state one, and he has succeeded in putting the commandments on the on the state line. And that's something folks that takes years in legislation. It's not just something you snap your finger. And that's what he fought for it comes with. It's a lot to be put forward to be voted on. It's the type of people are scared to vote against right? Look bad and the to their constituents. He put together this whole charity, which is owned charity which got fund. Ding. I won't bore your listeners all of it. But you can see what type of person says he he threatened his constituents. He he disavows anyone who isn't Christian in atheist in particular. And I was watching this. Documentary called meth storm on HBO this year that was about this county in Arkansas this terrible meth problem. This is the saddest I community of ever seen. And then I realized that's the skies fucking county. This is Jason reports that's underhand as diction. It's like he. Yeah. He has like two counties, and that's one of them. And it's his priorities is putting the fucking ten commandments and get inputting God. In God, we trust posters in schools and that kinda shit, and he's the king of meth storm county someone I got to go do something to get this guy out of office. Right. So I go do these fundraiser shows and for his opponent, whereas on Buckner county Democratic Party and. And to raise awareness in voter registration. So I do all that. In my show. The very first line of my show, and you can find this at Matt Besser? 'cause I I put it up. I opened the show by going, folks. It's great to be back in Arkansas where I started my political activism at the age of fifteen where after midnight me and these guys some onstage with the band, my friends from high school being these guys used to drive around in take political signs off Alonzo and throw him in a ditch. And the crowd goes. That's all I say, I just say that. That's how open my show. This guy Tate my show. The Senator Jason Raper hit some guy come to my show tape it. Okay. Fucking Republican intern. Yelling I'm told this happens all the time. They have. Hip. Your Ponant always tapes the other rally to see what said what he can use against you. It's like done all the time when Democrats and Republicans now, but they take my show, and it's probably a week later. Raper Jason Raper. Tweeted that there's been a rash of campaign signed vandalism and signs being stolen and pinned it on blamed it on the California atheist who barreled in Conway Arkansas brought here by the Democrats. He literally blamed me, and he didn't just do it. Once he did it over a period of weak. Fuck this eating out in nouncement of lake. Hey. We know this is going on. And we got a battle this. Yeah. It was like, you know, it's instigating an improper way of dealing with politics like accusing you of like changing the dialogue between parties and shit. But how crazy is that is that? He makes a point every time you read the semi my site in his Facebook and Twitter calling me a California atheist. So any office says he's not he's sick of identity politics in the same breath of calling me, California atheist, but those are trigger words for his constituents like they're all big time Christians in nobody likes, California. So those are two words, right particular, Hollywood, California, right? So. Think of me the kid wanting to be funny, not knowing I wanna be a comedian live in Hollywood. But still I wanna be funny. That's what I'm all about. And I wanna be right. I want to do it for the right thing. And my anger comes from the the fucked up religious shit, my own family and makes me into an atheist because I I don't want any part of any of the shit's that kind of forms my personality forms would I become where I moved to. But I still am connected to my home state. And then when I go back there to try to help it it all comes back that I bring up so that didn't has a kid I used to steal signs. And now, I'm being blamed for the vandalism and central Arkansas in a real major political five, right? Like, I'm being dra-. Both opponents are talking about me like that shouldn't be. I should not be part of the conversation. It's like it's just like that fucking smokescreen bullshit does getting people all you need is people the be you just need. I mean, I'm just saying shed people already know, but you just need people fucking wound up doesn't even need to be in any direction. You just need to get your people lag -fornia atheist stealing vandalism cries putting stuff. Yeah. It's like all those words while this guy's on tape. He's saying I think he literally says this we we can't let minorities run roughshod over our rights or something like that. This is all on YouTube. You could find this. For your. All on my Twitter. And I laid it all out there my whole adventure. But the invention fortunately ins with him winning. I know of registered voters only fifty percent of registered voters voted in that district district thirty five. So like, there's seventy thousand people who can are register so imagine who can but just who are registered like thirty thirty five of those actually voted in of that it became down to he got like fifteen thousand and she got twelve thousand. So there's like a three thousand person difference is that not nauseating. That's all that's one of the most populous populated districts in the state. So it's like people can't get motivated. That's why I'm so depressed is like people can't get motivated to vote in Astle like that out. Right. Because it because it doesn't hurt them directly. Right. Because that's like. They don't get it. There's a lot of. Yes, exactly. There's a lot of people who I who. I know are not full of hate who are like. But the stock market is better, which is like the weirdest barometer for like something. But it is like the upper middle class is like, but things are going well for me right now, you know. And it's like when I'm really afraid of is like, even like, I think I had friends I know people in Arkansas who voted for Democrats, but who might not have been motivated to canvas or do calls or really to do what I keep saying. Like, here's what I have to say wish I was famous than people care what I had to say. But I keep saying is you can't just vote yet to get someone else to vote, right? Right. W. Yeah. Double your weight. So you can't feel good at the end of the day. Like, well, I voted I did my part. You got to feel good that. Oh, I got my conservative sister to change your mind, right? Yeah. My my brother who hasn't participated in election yet to participate for the them's we literally have that. Daniel side of the family now like there's a balance of there in Florida and they're conservative in. We're in California, and we're blue, and it's like we are the balance of the nation right now, if we could somehow get this change their mind, everyone can do federal could flip one on. Yeah. Or get an effect can stay home. Day at least embarrass if you can't art because so many red staters will say they go back to a little Pelosi will Hillary will Bill it's same all over. I just won't go. Well, this don't vote in. At least in emit that Trump's awful don't. Don't say take the fucking day on vote for Pelosi. These friends your wish more celebrities. I wish I was famous every celebrity saying get out there and vote near the only celebrity was going. Hey, don't vote because you're venue. Well, it's I mean, we're saying nothing no one has an we're not saying anything new here. But like it's just about winning, which is like the weirdest thing. Now, like all the matters is people it's fucking New York and Boston now and not just like, I think it got its teams. I've I'm very pessimistic. I keep trying to stay on team here. But like. Did you hear those ads that were going out or it was one ad? How did it? Go. It was two black women doing terribly braces, black cents. Did you not hear this? Oh, we're they're saying. Is in Florida stuff where they're saying is about cavenaugh, the Democrats, you're I'm sorry, mutinous voice. But that's how it was going. The Democrats they they believe you're guilty until proven innocent. And they'll be Lynch and people because they were they were comparing it to the cavenaugh trial, and and and Saint Democrats are going to start lynching black young men was basically the point. You didn't hear this ad? No really was this the one that went out and Florida. That's what I thought Arkansas. I was in Arkansas. Okay. It was against one of the candidate. It was four when the candidates I was campaigning against Jesus. But it's that kind of shit where you're like. When you hear dirty shit like that. And it was put up when organization called black Americans for the President Trump some bullshit organization, we know as nothing there's no black people involved or they're awful if they are. And you like these gotta get nasty like I wanted to vandalize French this guy. This guy's campaign headquarters that night because that's awful. Right. That's when things have to get nasty. I think that's where we're at right now things. It's funny. You say that guys start getting nasty? I just saying someone the other day that I wish I I wish the Democrats could run me as one of the people this time around as like to fall on the sword more or less, but to just go out there and fucking roast Trump and be like relentless and call them out on all his play his fucking bully game bully him. I would fuck in or not me whoever Faulk in right? Jim. Jeffries? Al franken. Al Franken should do that Franken fucking toasty. She go out there. And no he's gonna say all the truth is no he's going to have to get an answer to the funk in sleeping, boob grab pick and just fucking lose. And just no. And that's not the guy was on is that legal because I was thinking about I was thinking I exact same thing for this race because I tried to distance myself from the candidates because this guy did keep trying to attach me to the candidate. But I wanted to sail the things once again, I wish people gave a shit. But like if I was someone that people did give a shit would it be legal for me too campaign. So this the good the woman has four was named Maureen Skinner and the guy was against Jayson Raper. It's what if I made it a I was independent and I made it three way race. And I go in there, and I say all the eighth easiest, but all the truthful shit is legal for me a week before the race to say, I drop out now, and I endorse Marin was that legal. If it's a plan. Like if I told my arena, I'm going. To do this. I feel I'm going to run. But then I'm going to drop out last minute. And I'm going to push to use legal. I can't imagine it is or else feel like we would see it more. Right. We would see 'cause then you would run like a two pronged everyone be running like a two pronged election. I don't know. I would love to I would love to just be there. And be like shut the fuck up. Come on, man. You know? That's not. That's disgusting. That's racist. That's racist. That is racist. Like, I just want to be able to. Or whoever this in my head imagining. It's me because I'm a fucking egomaniac. But whoever the person is valid while. There wasn't such a monster Dowd. Be someone to be like, hey, Alec go up there, and your your informed, and you're aggressive, and your charming and fucking roast this month. Smart enough, though. Now it needed to be like Al Franken. Yeah. You got to beat them beat them in his own game. Plus with intelligence and like opinions that favor human humanity, and like just go out there and fucking kill him at that. And then then then bring Kamala Harris into the fucking light or whoever whoever I don't know anything about that that element of politics. You always read about I can't think of one example their names, but you'll read about in Isreaeli comedian is now going to be the prime minister, whatever it's not that. I think there's like at bet there's I there's at least three comedians who become major politicians out there right now. And I wonder if they started out like I'm just going to sarcastically do that in and they get caught up in their like, well, I'm pretty good this and people like me, and then they are serious. Yeah. I like Howard Stern did sarcastically ran for governor way back in the day. But he never really wanted to be governor, right, right? He didn't have like real political motivations. I think comedians just also see it like law school in a way to where they're like something. I could do that would be for the good that let's my charisma and my intelligence benefit from these two comedies too fucking hard comedies, not really working or politics is pretty similar and also on your like see how bad shit is. And you're like, I'm fucking busting my ass doing comedy at night. And I'm making. Guys on Twitter. I wanna go shut your fucking mouth run for office already fucking pissing me off. All the time. Do it already. Right. Just do what? I mean. A lot of people have put a lot of celebrities have put their money where their mouths are in this last. I'll give a lot of people credit. I agree. But to me only way to do that is to go canvassing. Like, what would that be? Otherwise, people are. I mean, people are canvassing nine donating people are billing is nothing tweeting. I don't do it. Let me when people think. Yeah, I'm really working out there. I tweet every day go vote. That's nothing. It's not hurting. But it's not how it's nothing almost is hurting if people think that's enough. And I think people when I started reading like. I see the argument. But please don't tweet this at me. But the people go in, hey, don't stop telling millennials. They're not gonna vote because they're voting more than ever before. It's like to stop telling me how to tell people vote, right? Just like you can tell people vote in a different way. I'm Tom people vote my own way, maybe will inspire people. Maybe. But I don't need a lecture on how to tell people to vote. We're trying our best here. Well, also, it feels like let's not get mired in how to tell people to vote. Let's just tell people vote everyone do it. However, they think is Pat him on the back and say how great your are. I'm going to refer to two thousand sixteen where we all didn't vote. So I'm looking at right fuck. Yeah. I feel like people are going to be doing a lot more going forward. There's going to be a lot about getting people out to vote like activating other people. I understand it. I I would love I pitched. Similar show to your wolf of like, I would love just to follow twelve people. I'd love to different kinds of people twelve people who voted for Trump Loveday check in with them. Once a week have them to defend everything is normal people, and in twelve people who've never voted I just wanna Kate in their heads. Yeah. I'm curious like what fuck is your head on election day? What are you doing what's in your goddamn head? I really well. I think it's just like if people for some people can't see further than like one inch away from them. And if it's doesn't directly affect them good or bad. It doesn't matter to them who's running the country because to them their life doesn't change either way because of this in Arkansas when I was first talking to her about her platforms. I kind of have pitcher you should really jump on the marijuana bandwagon. You know, and she's in. Many worth think she says that's a little too contentious around here. And I feel like it's gotta be though. Like, you gotta appeal to some redneck his. Yeah. All right. Do want to grow marijuana and sell it. Yeah. And also, it's money. It Nelson care can't figure that out. Taxes for education gives shit about that what marijuana. My gap from their folks like us that. But fucking go for it. Go f- go for marijuana. It's makes money for every state then it gets legal in like it actually is legal there. But the call not going to bore you. But they fight selling and it's just in a quagmire weird. But it's like that's the kind of shit that motivates people like all people like people can't figure out economics. Like, they can't if it's if it's going well for them, they're going to soom, it's because it Trump. So they can't figure that Shiva. Right. And it's like marijuana is. Yes, it's a substance that a lot of people enjoy. But it's also the government saying, you can't your local governments. And you can't have it is against freedom. So maybe you're not pro weed, but you're pro- like we should be allowed to read. For sure on minimum pot crosses the I'll for like Republicans have to be burning. And then on the other on the other end of it. It's like you can't let the government tell you what you can. And can't do according to you to your own belief system and easy tax money tax money, and it's money, and it's like fucking setup where it's being a backwards ass place. Besides all with all that logic there. They're still not selling it. Right. Crazy. Yeah. And that's when you go to that we are in a bubble because I did get scared when I went back there, and that is where I'm from. And I felt I felt like I was in a strange land bummy on like. Wow, people are actually afraid to call themselves Democrats here there frayed to to say, they're supporting Democrats their boss may not be a democrat, and I might affect their job. That's very real to people that that one consideration. How me like let's I said it's like it's easy for you to go vote. But that's not enough. We need to tell other people be a democrat. If you live in a place like that where being a democrat is. Yeah. How how is that going to grow? Yeah. Fuck in band lies. I'll fucking blow up like do pro democratic like Papa vandalism. All right, marijuana trees and all the seminaries. A little Indika plants in all the in all the statues hands so make vandalism sound positive positive today. Somehow, I think a little bit at least or at least. It's negative, right? Rest your knee jerk reaction to it. Right. Is there posit can there'd be a positive side? There is a positive side vandalism. I tell my window breaking stories. I haven't told one of those the other night Esca. I know I fucking a lot of wind. A lot of Winona bring store. I never broke a window righteously. I will say that I've drunkenly everytime from the sidewalk through random windshield of a car one time, just drunken monster. And just didn't know what I was doing. And just did it. I feel bad about it. Hindsight. I rented my own car was in the shop and the Jeep this when I'm in college. And I said. When it was in the shop. They fucked it up more, and they felt bad. They're like you can have you can rent any car any car here for as long as you want until we fix your car. And I went, okay. And I never drove a car. It's just on a job on a lark. I said I'll get that Lincoln. It was this ridiculous limousine. Looking big old black long Lincoln, which I would never drive so just got it. And I went and parked in the parking lot behind the house where we lived at Amherst. We had a party that weekend. I sorta got I I rented it like on a Thursday, and we had a party Friday or Saturday some dude from the baseball team. Open a window the second floor ripta towel dispenser off the wall in through it through the front windshield of my Lincoln had for twenty four hours. That was the vandalism coming back around on the senseless. But he was like no I have a cause here. And then you're like it's fair. He got mad when asked pay for like found out who did it like three days later. And as like he may got paid for like, hey, man, you guys had a party. No like, that's like that goes down to party. Do. It's kind of true, which is the real. It's it's wrong. Shokhin like thing if you throw a party shit's going to go wrong at your house without culture is been dancing and knocked over of wall glasses is different than opening throwing out. It's been. Besser? Thank you for coming on. I'm now pro vandalism who you always worry. Now. It's been rationalized for you. But what? Talk to me a little bit about this stitch cream series. You've got going to cheer premium my dead wife, the robot car, you're in an episode of very funny premise, I love I enjoy doing the road rage. So the premises. I'm I'm a guy that's been hired to test. These new robot cars, and when once I get my car, the explained to me that the the artificial intelligence the operating system is my dead wife that they've especially programmed it for me much to my chagrin because we never got along. And I was about to divorce her before she died in a drunken driving accident. And it drunk wife or the car robot cars Mary Holland. Very funny. Best the show Gabor's is in the robot. Car cuts him off in traffic, and he's one of those road rage dude to won't let it go. Have you ever had a guy like fall you for a while? Yeah. Dude. I had a guy fine me this is years ago in LA. But when I look in the rear view him doing like a gun to his head home. My god. Mike, I'm going to blow your head off and doing the cutthroat. I'm going to kill you signal. Holy sea. Fall me like running red light soon that whole thing doing a quick, right? Turn than him doing you. Eat a follow me. Oh my God. I had something similar like coming home from. I was like. Cut a guy off a little bit on one of those two streets make a left, and I was like I want to get to the right? So I was trying to and I cut him off. And he was behind me screaming and screaming screaming when I'm like driving down the street and LeBron he pulls up alongside me, and I could see out of the corner my screaming, and pointing at me, and then I look over at him. And I just like wave like jokingly like, I don't see it. I don't know what he's talking about. And he's like roll down your window and rolled on went on. I'm like pretending storm. I guess and he's fucking motherfucker. You fucking pussy you motherfucker? You fucking push kick your fucking ass. And I'm like what he's back there you and I'm like joking with him. And like so you want me to get out of the car. So you can beat me up because I cut you cut you off over there. And he's like, hey, fuck you fuck you. And I was like look I'm sorry. I don't really wanna fight today. And the light turns green like roll up my window and just keep driving and he's like behind and he keeps trying to get behind me and like honking honking, and I'm trying to keep like, no. It was terrifying. Yeah. Man. And. This guy's a gun cited not recommend that folks. I recommend minded wife, the robot car, Stitcher preemies if you don't have to premium I thinking use the offer code robot, the word robot for month free there. John. Premium. Yeah. Raised by TV, the early episodes are on Stitcher premium. Listen to you guys all free now. Months later, the episodes come out free. We're not all out free. Well, Besser this has been a pleasure. The trilogy get involved. He's full aggression ending response. 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"The. Gasoline Guy Andrew, Schultz? Back for another week the brain idiots podcast Get right to it Andrew. What did you see last week? That was positively brilliant. What did you see last week? That made you say what a fucking idiot. Man. Positively brilliant last week was very tricky. Man I feel like. Just went wrong last week. Really that not make sense like there was just so much crazy drama that came out last week in our found out. Have those weeks say what? You. Have you can have those weeks? Yeah like. Yeah feel like everybody had it like. It's just so much fucked up going on. Really that makes sent me listen. You're alive. Right Man I'm blessed. You're breathing. I'm blessed, you know, but it is our job to talk on culture, and I feel like cultures in a really weird place right now. I'll tell you. What a fucking you ready for my water. fucking idiot I'm here matter of fact. You cut everything I said before and just started with this. What A fucking idiot! Trump was asked about d'alene maxwell okay. Me Maxwell Has Jeffrey Epstein's pedophile accomplice piece of human garbage. She is going to be on trial. She's I guess in custody right now. And trump was asked about her, and this guy bobbled the easiest question in the entire world. The question was what do you think about? delay, Maxwell, or something like that? He goes. He goes. You know I saw her passing You Know Palm Beach I. Wish her the best. I wish her the best. What do you mean you wish her the best? What the fuck does, wish her the best me. This is all you gotta say. All you gotta say is. There some horrible things she's accused of. it's absolutely horrifying and absolutely discussing and if she's guilty of those things. I hope she gets justice. That's the answer. What is I? Wish you the best well as a main. Who's always constantly working on himself? Through therapy and a sacred purpose, coach and other things. Actually Ed is exactly what I say to people when I wished him worse. Edit exactly what I say to people when I hope they get found hung in a sales. Didn't exactly get. He's the president, so he should have had them more politically. Correct answer, but when somebody talks to me about somebody Andrew that I absolutely despise when I'm trying not to hate I say God bless him i. wish him the best. Everytime everytime. I don't know how he feels about this woman but you know. I'm just saying that's how for me personally. When I wish you the best. I'd say God bless you wish you the best because that's so generic right and interesting, so you think trump. Is Actually doing the opposite. I. Don't know what trump is doing. I never know what trump is doing I'm just simply I'm just speaking from my perspective, you know which is also something I'm. Constantly talking about their, if it's about me making things about me all the time, but it's just like. Evidence and When you think you have an ego, Charlemagne the God. Yeah, we all. Got Using you. Business? If you don't gotTa Ego, I'm Outta. motherfuckers that are in entertainment, entertaining people going on Eagle this. have an ego they. Go somewhere. There's nothing you. You can't wake up every day if you don't have an ego. Not, even in this business this to live as a human, but you gotTA. Make sure that you don't have a wounded ego. You gotTA. Make sure that your ego is not your enemy. Your wounded inner child streaming for help. You know what I mean. You gotTA. Make sure that in a child within you is not getting triggered. By things that are happening to you as adult and saying hey, let me let me let me put the question like this for you Charlotte. How do you feel about a Jeffrey Epstein? Back when he was alive. How you feel about it? Didn't give a fuck. Isn't that a better answer than I wish them the best? How might be honest with you? And this is just me being crazy I guess. It all the same to me out. If I don't give a fuck about you, I wish you the best I used to say God. Bless you I used to say God bless them, but fucking. That sounds like too much of an oxymoron right. Bless, my wishing the best. Island you'll still get a but fuck amount of me I think, but fuck is good I. Would I would keep the but fuck damn somebody's GonNa edit that crazy. You still get a but fuck. You're still gonNA come. A on saying is. Let's say I'm not a jail no more, but you still get what focus me. On I'm day no more I'm. Just, get a but fuck me. Good on holidays bras. All three parking. I'm with you though I mean. Yeah as a president, I guess you gotTa. Stay neutral so as a president. Even we've never seen trump's day. Neutral trump clearly picks aside so To me! And I will. That I saw him say that that is a man who He's been accused of being down with the epsteins right are. Partaking in what what they were doing who? Wasn't sure whether. I know, but wasn't trump into mix of all of. That wasn't trump into mix of. is in a mix now. There's this whole conspiracy on the Internet I. Think Cunanan which is. Basically an I'm GONNA. Fuck it up so if you know about it, but they're basically believed that trump is going into politics to like. A drain the swamp get rid of all the pedophile elites that are running these pedophile rings using it to compromise people around the world. That's what they believe and this got to be the biggest blow to them because he fucking. fucked up the question and he was aware of what's going on right. He said Prince Andrew Disavow Shady's the Clintons were on that island. He said F scenes island was foul. He's on record saying all these things. And now all of a sudden this chickens in custody. He's like a man I wish her two best is almost as if. is almost as if somebody could say this. They could go. Oh, maybe she got some shit on him, and he's trying to send a message to her lawyers or even her. Yo I'M GONNA. Be Gracious to you. You be gracious to me, so the message already was sent. A message was sent when Larry was hanging NSL now. Lottery Young Jeffrey Epstein now Jeffrey Jews have the same name or Jeffrey. If. I'm if I'm I'M DONALD TRUMP? That message has been sent. All I've heard. Is the Maxwell lady say scared that she's GonNa get killed in jail. She scared. Something's going to happen to her. No once you've already sent to have vestige and I'm sure messages got gotten Christine like. I just can't go one or two ways to. On. His. Head you fucked up both as within fifty seconds of your show. Daddy right, so danny the President Dan. He's like look I'm on this mother stage. And, I'm I'm saying I'm saying Christine. Since what's her name Gay Lane? I'm saying Gee Lane. I. Wish you the best meeting. I wish you the best laws you keep your mother fucking mouth shut about right. It's almost a message, right? It's a message and Andrew haven't gotten a chance to you know. Do whatever it is, they're going to do to her. What do you think they're going to do to? You can't run the same play you can. Run the same case shows. That God damn hangman this cases. You can't do that. Shit I. GotTa head from the same play. It would be too obvious. You can't run the same play you can't, but they gotTA figure it out. You gotta say Cova. Lovie! Cova, you get over local. We can get her out of here though poisoning, but covert. Cove. It is probably the easiest way Kobe to kill somebody right now. Because its own you, you just gotTa. Make sure that bitch gets cove it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! We gotTa Watch. Taylor came up with that one a little too quick. That so fast! Yes, he's planning. That went out Yo. That's that's grimy right there. Do refills boyfriend. y'All. We're praying for your boyfriend. What's your boyfriend's name again? Why not knowing. You know what's crazy. I was talking to Taylor last night and I was asking her about her boyfriend whatever she was like. Yeah, we'll take them to Philly this weekend. Full cheese thing. was. It was the so random like I'm. GonNa take an affiliate. We can put cheese thing. Though yeah, that sounds that sounds she got. Ready. Know. No, no, no, no, actually what she said before that was. He's getting on my mother fucking nurse. is s all good. On your nerves. Why you see my keeping knowing that man leave that man alone I'm. He's on here in this episode because he's going to make see I, told you. Me Why are you driving him crazy not. A tiny, not out what? About? We're not discussing this. Go back to talk. To Her that this entertainment. We share what's happening. Clear Charlemagne. Olis' Bay Ooh but if I'm not in a relationship. This time you said I if I'm not at least acted next year then it has to be like some bad because he thinks that we're gonna all be all his needs to be single they are. Log onto pandemic. You don't think they got the pandemic poon on. Nine I don't have nothing to do with that. It's just that they're all young and. Young. How old are you now by nine? Right there. You right there. You can't call you young Liberty Bell after thirty. You just the bell! Was Up. Bell. Bell from. Philly. But no trump did fuck that question up. But I mean I'm seriously, and and my and my sick mind. That is what I say to people. When I don't WanNa Karston great up when when I don't WanNa. Say Fuck you only because I don't WanNa bring myself down at your level and I. Don't WanNa. Bring my energy down your level. I really do say God bless 'em him the best. He can say also as hope they had the daily deserve to. That's why I say to people listen y'all were great. To me how I feel about the people who are running like a pedophile ring. I'M NOT GONNA. Say God bless. That's just me though. I don't know. Before. They execute you. Take in, don't they? Pray for you before they execute you. Don't they? BRING A REVEREND! Electrocute Internat- injection. Imagine that's your. Church like you worked your whole life. You Ain't getting pussy your whole life so that you can be capricious cathedral. All you gotTA. Do is pray for the guys about to get electrocuted. Why not no matter what? He's still go also. Really Figure out what happens in church like who decides who gets to be? The how how are you good at priest in your? Yeah, why don't you got to go to school say? Don't you gotta go to school year, but like it's not like there's a test. Somebody Barking Dog Here To say you're taking his snoop dogg versus thing a little too far. A Fun! Listen you know who I saw this week. That positively brilliant Martin on I'm bringing this up. because. It proves detailer that I was correct Tobias. Harris CJ mccollum. The bias Harrison CJ. mccullum, yeah, Tobias plays for the Philadelphia. Seventy sixers. CJ mccollum plays for the Portland trail. Blazers to buy houses in a press conference. Can put the audio hair. She's not hating on the situation. Russell Westbrook, we saw collaborated with the aid to create those social justice church the players. I know that you showed your support via some social media accounts, and just wondering if those shirts or something players plan to wear during warm ups, or if there is a plan for those, or you'll be involved in any way. You know no nothing Augusta to shirts, but To make sure that Daniel Cameron. Rest cops and officers involve. Death! Yet I saw I got. The. That's GONNA be. My Asif every question. UPS Again Camera. Step up and to do what's right. Today. Restoring everybody. The bias refuse to answer any questions other than to say Daniel Cameron and I'll even know if that's his name, 'cause you're terrible name. Last name was definitely camera. But the the. The Attorney General in Kentucky at a district the DA in Kentucky. I, the focus title lists, but you like I'm not saying anything other than he needs to arrest the cops who killed Brianna, Taylor CJ mccollum spoke about a great conversation. He had with Brianna Taylor's MOM, and how they need the rest of cops. That killed Brianna Taylor now. All of it went viral. If you notice, the media has moved away from those protest, and not showing you the protest anymore. They're happening. They're showing you. What's going on in Portland, but that's only because the military is. They're beaten up. Protest is in breaking up protests both part media's not showing you the protests them more they back on Covy, and they back on the upcoming election, and they all kind us right, though it is good that you have the NBA coming back. And Major League Baseball even yesterday. Those guys would take a knee. So it just keeps awareness on what's going on out there? No Street and this is something else I thought about and Think about the people who aren't. Lebron James Think about the people who aren't higher, your think about those guys who don't have a voice as big as dares. The only place they'll be to maximize their voice. Is With the NBA platform is at those press conferences thing about the people who tweet things like this all day long post on instagram and nobody cares because they don't have a bigger voice as Lebron, and whoever else this is why the NBA will not be a description. This is why the NBA really all sports are going to be so necessary over the next few months. Because it will be athlete activism, it will be protests through sports I. Think it's going to be great pushing and this is about the Briana Taylor thing because I've been reading up about this little bit so. Just break down the events because I'm trying to find out who needs to be held accountable. Who specifically do you point the blame at rice and that made the? Chart I told them to so this. Is Laura Release Officers Right McGill Brianna Taylor, but the police officers were. On behalf of A Faulty Warrant Right, a Warren that had the wrong address men. There's a rule that allowed them to just break into a house without a knock right so. And correct me if I'm wrong. Did the police. Officers do what they were legally allowed to do and what they were supposed to do down. I'm not sure I don't know because I. Keep hearing people go arrest the police officers and my concern. Is that not enough? Hold on, not enough people understand what happened with the Briana Taylor case so that when they see the police officers, not being arrested. They're going. See looked as the failure of our justice system when they realize that the person. Who created this situation? Is the person who put the wrong address on the warrant for arrest or warrant for search easier. Not People say that they should arrest the person who issued the warrant as well. I think what the police officers is. She was laxed. Came in the house, and when they shot her, they didn't issue her any aid adult life if she was alive for like six minutes after the fact and dated issue any aid whatsoever. I think that's where the that's where they were negligent. They're negligent after the mistake that they made, and you have to prove that they like purposely were negligent I think there's some other things that they did afterwards. They try to cover it up or something like that. Yeah, like they told her. They told the mom that she was going to. This is at the hospital ready among goes to the hospital. For two hours comes back. He's still in the house. Right so like so it seems to me that there is a cover up for a mistake that definitely was a cover of I can't remember what it was all right, so then you can have. You can hold them accountable for the cover up. My concern with these things is is that we keep pushing a message out to the world that can't be. Tried in the court of law bright. It this is a really fucked up case. Obviously, the cops are looks like as if the cops are covered it up, so you have to press charge them for covering up the murder. You have to press charges on them for like maybe not attending to the body after they shot it right. But going into house in the first place, it seems as if it wasn't their fault. No. Well listen I'm going beyond what you don't have enough information on the case as to why they want. The police officers arrested, but I know that there's people who've been working on this case in researching this case far more than I have, so they understand why. Officers need to be arrested I. Do know like I'm reading here now. In New, York, times. She received no medical attention for more than twenty minutes after she was shot. In the police have been investigating two men who they believed selling out of a house that was far from Miss Taylor home, but a judge had also signed the warrant a warrant allowing the police to search Miss Taylor's residents because the police said they believed one to two men had used our apartment here receive packages in the judge ordered the so-called known warrant which allowed the police to enter without warning. Olof identify themselves as law, enforcement or drugs. Were the apartment nothing so? It seems like a bare minimum. This entire case needs to be investigated may be from neutral source, not internal whatever it is like What is that thing Alex? Where like the police investigate themselves internal affairs it, yeah, like not internal affairs I'm talking about a neutral outside source got come in and look at this Cape Stop the bottom and seabees seems like there's a lot of mistakes that are being made and a lot of cover ups have happened, and that's what happens. The digestive system is this is connected to the police system. Obviously, we'll take care your boy. That's what people do. Yeah, the offices They didn't knock but then entering star has said. They said they did not Colorado Yeah. They said they did not indeed identify themselves. But her boyfriend said he didn't they didn't. And that's why he feared for his life, and he fired in self self-defense. And, they said that the police report contained a bunch of errors. It listed Brianna Taylor injuries nine, even though she had been shot eight times and indicated that police had not forced their way into the apartment, even though they used a battering ram. Break the, Doral, yeah, you got. This whole case needs to be looked at I. have less this okay case to be reviewed. There's a lot of wild shit going on over here. Yeah, what a fucking idiot also goes to. Matthew Slap. WHO's out? Matthew slap is on He's the head of CPAC if I'm not mistaken. Hold on, let me get there right I. DON'T WANNA I don't WanNa mess that up. match slap is. Yes. He's ahead of CPAC, a the CPAC chairman. And he's A. He's a trump advisor. Back now. We could play that audio. He he was on. Fox News and he actually was talking about Joe Biden Joe Biden's Cognitive abilities or lack thereof. And he said that Joe. Biden couldn't even get an interview with a rap star. Without you know telling star you ain't black. He brought, you know. Biden is essentially trying to duck and cover not have a full campaign. Hang out in his house, and none of us are able to really see what he's got. You ought to take an hour an answer all the tough questions and he ought to release his schedule every day. That shows that he's full all day long with events. Instead we see speech here or there. He does interviews. He did her interview with a rap star and he couldn't even get through that without a big job on the you eight black so I think the problem is is Joe Biden is not running a fully energetic real campaign when they. WanNa get show response to this. What we want to hear spags! What are you going to do for? Those individuals who have lost family members due to the pandemic. What are you going to do to ensure that? We do not have another issue like George Floyd within our police departments. That's what we want to hear. And when you know Biden, made the comment about African. Americans that was not a rap star that was Charlemagne the God who is a nationally syndicated radio host? You know I know. He's a black man, so he may think he's a rapper, but he's not. He's gotTa Salute Wendy. ASSEFA ASSEFA. I really can't pronounce nobody nobody I'll, I hope nobody takes it personal. It's it's actually remarkable. That's why I have so. Many Nicknames People Wendy. Wendy Oh a guy. In on me, I have I really can't pronounce his name but Wendy Check them right then and there, and that's what you should do. I must stern believer. I don't believe in cancelling I believe in counseling so I don't believe that Matt. Slap is racist because he referred to me as a rap star, just feel like he has a cultural blinds spot, and I feel like people have stereotypical tropes when it comes to black people clearly not tall enough to be a basketball player. You see a black person, and and and they have a certain level of success. If you see them on television and they're talking to a presidential candidate, you just think in your mind Oh that guy's. A rapper I you know an endless once again. I don't think he's racist. I think that's a cultural blind spot and an. It's the positive stereotype. Rapids saved a lot of lives. You know rap has gotten a lot of people out of the ghetto. Rap is financially empowered a lot of people so I. Don't get offended when somebody calls me a Rap Star I. Just think that person needs to be corrected in Windy Oh. Wendy O Sappho correct him. In there in that moment and I thought that was brilliant to. Now. Do you. Do you care about the context? In which like What what he was talking about do believe that it's true that like Biden is a little mentally off. I think he's Oh bro Yeah. They all. Think he's old and he's at. He's he's. He's always had gas. Right like that was Biden's thing. They always say Biden just. Say anything off the top of his right. And, now he's older and it's his really bad. That's what happens when you get older. He's what eighty hours. I mean he's older. Yeah. Oh. I'm sure there's some cognitive decline. But. That's what happens when you're eighty I would think. Right hubs don't understand how we got into this situation. I understand how that is the best candidate on the democratic side how they looked at everybody, and they were like Nope, and by like even Americans are Americans looked at everybody out of there, and they're like. No, this is the guy for the job he can do it. You might save. Bet You save bet, I guess the guide it. You know they felt like a win. They still feel like that. You know he probably is going I. Don't listen I. Don't know what's GonNa Happen in November only reason I know is because there's just a lot row. You got so much voter suppression. You don't know if you're GONNA have insurance from other countries. You know you have voter depression where people just don't feel. Enthused about by our any are trump, so they just don't. They just stay home altogether. You know what I mean like I. Don't I don't know. Is. Both sides believe that they are going to get their votes suppress. Trump is nonstop tween about honor going to rig the election, you know obviously you're talking about how trump's gonNA find a way to raid the election or there's GonNa. Be outside interference. What happens when you cheat on your girl shows? Say What what happens when you cheat on, you grow. Why would you don't? Would you even ask the question like that? Would you even freezing the? Phrase a question what I hear. You, do it. Has, no good answer. That's a horrible question. Like saying houses have AIDS where what? I just hey, you're not used to answer that question. Now you should answer that question how I wish you the best. What happens when you shoot on your Gro-? Weipa hypothetically I'll tell you a reform cheater. Cheat on your woman. You feel guilty. Right Brian so now you start thinking about all the things she could possibly do to. You are has new ends down. I'm saying that's what trump is doing right now. Trump is like these mother fuckers going to beat me my own Goddamn game. All right. They who they probably got the Chinese working with him because the Chinese hate me, you know what I mean. I don't know what's going going through his mind, so I don't know what's going to happen in November but. it's going to be entertaining I. Know that much I think people should be very. Frightened at the fact. This weekend this this week. Really this weekend. Donald Trump did an interview a Fox News Tanya was had his press rally in South Carolina. Soundbites Galore from Donald Trump. Soundbites Galore from Kanye West's. Widow fuck with Joe. Biden sound bites. You had nothing to say Joe. Got Nothing to offer. Don't think for one second OUTTA sight Outta mind I'm telling you. You just put out a commercial today with Obama. He just put out commercial today with Obama Alex is. Five days a press that Obama should ain't going slap. I ain't gonNA slap. I haven't seen it yet. What is he chose to do? What would I mean? I? I don't know I I would just feel. I would just feel crazy that my voice doesn't resonate as a presidential candidate. Say What you want about Hillary Clinton. Everything, Hillary Clinton said got, dissect it like a motherfucker into meeting. People gotTA love. You ought gotTa hate you. Eight feel any way about you. When ages like I can take it or leave it. That's not a good space to be in, Bre. Not It's not a good space to be in and I think that's the space that he's it. And that's why. I heard I saw him on joy, read of the day, and that was a good headline that came out because everybody's. So you know intrigued on who is vice president is going to be. They want something to be enthused by yeah. He said I've got four black women that I'm looking at. You put one of them sisters on the ticket now. Let's get this shit going. Who Do you think is going to get it? The Malla? probably Senator Harris which I'm not mad at I did see something really good. That came out of California this week. They had Some. California delegates Holomisi of budget fines California delegates had put out their list of your brightness up on your screen. Is as bright as it can go. Oh. Yes, so they had California progressives. They want Barbara Lee Karen Bass Audina attorney to be vice president, and that was interested in. You know what I mean really. That was interesting, too. Because you know Senator Harris Has California, they didn't. They didn't put her on the list. They put those three I love senator. Nina Turner extended Anina Turner was with the VPI. Find a way to vote twice really. Oh, my God. I less than it in the attorney is the truth. The one divided by none I don't even know who she is. man she used to be a Bernie. Sanders surrogate she she was Bernie for both terms, and she used to be a senator in Ohio she comes on. MSNBC CNN. A lot of times Yeah. She's a bee's like she's cheat. If I'm telling you, I mean it'll never happen. Right but of Joe Biden with the put her the VP, Oh my God. I'd be I'd I'd I'd go out and stop for that ticket really absolutely. One hundred percent. Yeah, you know you're saying What was it Outta sight, Outta, mind, or whatever the fuck it is like how Biden's? Basically it looks as if his strategy is just to not say anything bad until he. Gets the election and hopefully white will. He's trying to quiet game his way into the White House right. This is like the quiet place. who say anything doesn't. Yeah quiet. Yeah yeah so! I think we're having this conversation yesterday, but it's really interesting like You know how they said you know trump is people who voted for trump or like you know he's such a great businessman. He'll do great with country, right? You heard that argument. The problem with data, is it? He's running the country like a business and when you're a business. You, only satisfy the people. Consume the content or services of Your Business Bright? The vegan restaurant does not care to satisfy the steak lover. It does not care to satisfy the person we ribs who eats ribs and the steakhouse does not care to satisfy the Vegan rain. You have your constituents and you satisfy them right? Uber does not care to satisfy people who like to ride bicycles all day. That's not more them, so the thing was happening with politics is trump. has become this amazing president to people that fuck with him like they love him more than anything. Trump supporters. I've never seen anybody loved. Trump or a president is much as trump. Supporters Love Trump. I don't even done I. Know What it is, you tell me this you tell me if I'm wrong, do you think is fair to say that? Trump supporters left trump more than black people loved Obama. That's a good question at the time. I'm not sure black people loved Obama at the time. You didn't see a lot of pushback. Yeah! You didn't see a lot of pushback on Obama until after he got out of the white. House and he was in the White House. It was it was people that were pushing back on them. You had brothers like Cornell Western tavist. Molly was doing what they were supposed to be doing. Actually, which is taking the president to task right? The president has to answer to his constituents but life. People love them some Obama, so here's the thing. This is the only reason why I bring that up. I asked that question. because. I believe. Obama wanted to be the president of the United States of America. He didn't want to be the president of his supporters. And I think trump has no interest in being the president of the United States of America. He's operating no different than he would operate with a business which is I'm here to support the motherfuckers who support me so if they like this shit. That's what I'm GONNA. Give them whereas Obama I think specifically throughout his presidency wanted to make sure he wasn't just black people's president that he was the president for everyone now. Absolutely a lot of Republicans Mike pushback on that. That he didn't reach across the aisle enough. Is that the other okay I'm sure there's going to be pushed back and yes. He was satisfying the Democratic Base Moore. The Republican base of course because that's where values life, but it is a really interesting way to look politics and where Biden might be failing, because Biden currently does not have a base that he is satisfying, and he is not feeding them anything. He's just kind of like existing as not. Trump is right. And the problem with that is if trump has turned politics into business. There's no such business. As I'm not that business yet. You can't just open up a restaurant. What's in there? What's in there if I if I? If I got a CHICK-FIL-A on the corner. And then there's just this building is just side. There's a building you know. Signs Y'all know what's coming out there, but somebody's telling me. That's a restaurant. Guess what I'm going to. I'm going with. I know maybe there. We go that number one with cheese. Okay all right I'm going to get that chicken sandwich with cheese and taste month. You're absolutely right. Not only does trump kate. In one based trump gave his is his base. A name. That's a team. Matters Gang baby branding Make America great again. People can say what they want. Probably the greatest brand in presidential history. And it ain't even his. Is raised as Reagan Reagan. Put on a Red Hat Dobra. Ray Reagan put on a red hat and Reagan didn't give it. A name. Make America Great Again Matha. Of all you know how you know that it was hot. Is Hot because rappers. Duplicated. Make America trap again. make the Hood Great Aghia here you know, make make make make crack Selah game like everybody comes up with these different. Ways to flip it in bounce down. You know you got some Dope Shit. Say What you want. If it wasn't racist, if it wasn't bigoted, his campaign team would have won that award. They give gave Obama. Award for a whole we can believe. Maga- would've got that award if it wasn't. A tied to racism and bigotry elderly. So then it goes into the discussion. As to why he doesn't seem to care to satisfy anybody. That's not his base right, and why? He's leaning into satisfying his base right so if his base I'm not saying everybody who votes trump is racist. I'm not saying that at all, but if there are people that do that are racist duval for trump. He's not going to alienate them. Because remember he's a business that has to satisfy the customers of his business, so if you sell steak and some people like try tip you keep avid tried tip even if you don't like making try. You're going to keep having it and. Tried to I think this in a in the little pieces of steak or something like that. You said that she thought somebody tried to swing on Ti. Is Try to. Try, to you know I guess? Whatever fog. Who knows I? Guess what I'm trying to say that he's treating this so much like a business that he is satisfying. Everybody that's willing to engage in pattern to everybody. WHO's willing to support him? and. It's a weird way to look at politics is politics is not supposed to be that. We're not supposed to look at politics as a business, because it is your responsibility as the president to be the president of all the people in the country. Even if you ran on your platform to get there, you still have to consider. Half the people that are in the country that do not like those things? To consider them kind of like, be valuable in your beliefs a bit. Donald Trump's super services audience. that's what he does. He's super, serves his audience and listen. You're supposed to be the president of all people, even if you're not the president of people at least fake like you go, so here's the thing, and I really think this I think that the legacy of presidents that only satisfied their base is far more intact through the legacy of presidents, the try to satisfy everyone for example Obama his legacy. has taken a bit of a hit after he's been out of office Bill Clinton's legacy taken a hit after he's been at office. Reagan who literally only considered and I'm not the most. You know adept when it comes to. Politics but seems like Reagan only considered his constituents. You know you could say. He flooded the hood with drugs and you could say it. He brought a level of conservativism that was. Not Very admired by the left. This guy's a hero to the right to this day. People literally say a Reagan conservative I'm a Reagan Republican whatever it is so I wonder if for your legacy is better to say, fuck the haters off the only reason I think Barraq. Bill. And even George Bush their legacies will alter George Bush legacy was altered in a good way the only reason I think their legacies were altered because Donald Trump show. How much power you have is a president, and because Donald Trump is doing what you say, which is super serving his people. And making sure his people are good, his people great. It makes the people who supported Obama, said Obama. Why couldn't you do have for us? Are The people who supported Bill Clinton say why couldn't you do? Bus and then on the flip side. You still have the people on the right who have been speaking out against Obama who been speaking out against the Clinton. So when you have both sides that have something negative to say about you, it does put a little a little thin on your legacy, not not not so much the people who've been against you, but the people who were four you. We'll say hey. Why didn't Obama do more or black people? You know what I'm saying like when you see these. These brothers and sisters who support Donald Trump and they say donald trump has done more for black people than Obama did yeah, that's a little. Slow staying on the legacy a little bit, you know, Donald Trump got. The first step back done even though it's not like Barack Obama wasn't trying to push you know. Permit. Prison Reform our criminal justice me just got. Push, back. You know trump was able to get. It passed right, so it's just it's just little things like that with a legacy containing and somebody like George Bush is better because the people who hated Bush. Would think trump is the worst devil. They're like. Bring back. Joe would be better than what we have only only because even if you didn't like George Bush. Your sense of normalcy was not affected. America got a routine. Even out of our routine pass five months, so so, why does Biden run on that? Run on, bring back normal. Run on, bring back the routine. You can find a sexy way to say it, but if you know what the people miss. Like I'm not speaking by I'm speaking of his campaign manager center. If you know what the people missed, run on what they fucking Miss. Like I'm no bullshit by this run on make America great again. It's got to. Be His message Yoda. That's that's A. that's a good point because you know Donald. Trump out of the commercial running now. That says you're not safe in a Joe Biden America. But all the footage showing from the past few months. This is trump's America. So if I'm by I mean if I'm Biden I take you back to. How life looked under Obama. I take you back to how life under those past eight years and I said let's make America great again art. I don't know. Make America Barack Again I. Don't fucking to hell, no this something. Take you back when. Life was. Quote Unquote Normal. Our sense of normalcy has been all the way disrupt. That's the named we we've never been. We've never been in this position. America ever gets it I would not survive I've alive. Is Not. The only problem with that messaging though is people on both sides have a distrust for the government. So if you try to give him the notion that we're going to go back to status quo, that's not a message. People are willing to get behind I. Don't think I agree with you, but I'm gonNA. Tell you something man I took a few. A few more much this shit. Motherfucker fighback give me the Goddamn status quo died. Wait on the line too long and you want one thing. You have to Jamaica spot they. Just give me the GODDAMN church. Seriously, because people want. What they remember, you can't even get on a plane and just go out of the country. Go. Can I ask a question because I I heard this criticism thought it was interesting, but maybe you have different perspective on it, which is IRA from buddy of mine who's liberal my boy Robbie? Who Works on the monologues with does and He's like very liberal. He said this. It is curious. Did you see all this other rising and all this like protests and all this like rioting? In, liberal cities with liberal mayors and liberal politicians and Liberal I dunno governors, or whatever like like not governor city like. What he and he goes begs the question. Is Liberal politics no different in terms of what they can do for people, but are they rather only just lying and selling a dream that they can't cash in I mean that's the yeah, I mean that's been the question, right? I've been the question. The hold trump administration I was the question when Hillary was running. But what do you think about that? We will see all these. Who Exposed? That was Barack right because Barack was in the White House for eight years. Right, so you got you got you got what what people thought was the most progressive, even though he's moderate, most progressive black. He's black right. He's Liberal Democrat like Y'all America about the change. But. It didn't Bri on autumn saying, but he didn't so now. When you sit back and you look around, and that's been something that they've been pointing out like you. Look at all of these cities that are run by liberals, crime is the worst poverty is the worst. That's got people saying. What are we voting for? As got people jumping over to the other side of the aisle saying I'm down to vote conservative because. They putting some money in the hood offering something like you have been. Turned off by the Democrats, and I'M GONNA. Tell you something if we don't see something very radical If Joe Biden wins I'm talking about I'm talking about Lyndon B Johnson radical like like co changing shifting right black black people might bounce from the Democratic Party altogether. It might just be independence you know are like my man was Bellamy. He's got the Black Liberty Party now. I expect to see more of that. Happening Noah Bob Johnson was calling for black lives matter to be its own political party I can easily see black people going with any of these parties, and just voting with whoever has their best interest at heart voting interests like we always showed anyway when I can see a lot more at. in in in twenty. One is the next twenty four terms or. Twenty twenty four midterms be like twenty, twenty, twelve, twenty and easier. I could easily see people voting in blocks. Starting at twenty twenty two, it is, it's just interesting because I never considered like that, and then when it was Kinda laid outs me where you see all this unrest. And these people who are fighting back. These people who are staunchly democratic, staunchly liberal hate trump are fighting back against systemic oppression when. The people that are elected in their cities are democratic, staunchly liberal and represent all their beliefs, so it's like what system are you fighting back against an? How is this the Republicans? Fault? If you've done your job as a citizen to elect these people that reflect your views, why not take some accountability and be like Yo? Apparently, the people were electing or two views that we have aren't getting out of this situation. BIKING is almost as if they're protesting. Themselves or one of the most impactful adds that I've seen is just add as shows Joe, Biden Chuck Chuck. Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and it says something like. A hundred plus years combined of. Political failure. Because it in, and it's like Oh you trying to blame trump. You've been you've been in the Senate. All of these years already plus years for some of these people. But you try to blame trump. A for what's going on for. What's not happening America because he's been in the last three. It's there's like it's. It's Kinda crazy and again think when people hear this. They go all who you are stumping for trump, or it is nothing to do with trump let. Every criticism someone has the trump. Okay, perfect, let's go with it. Let's say you're right about every criticism. You have for trump. I think the argument you brought up is which is great, which is like these are the three people that are running the Democratic Party and these are the three people that are. Making. The Democrat are choosing the direction of the Democratic Party and that party has not been helping the people. That, they're supposed to represent. In the cities that those people live in are the ones that are rioting and doing all this other stuff. Don't you think it's almost in chuck, Schumer Nancy Pelosi and whoever the other person you said. Don't you think it's in their best interests that you take all your rage out on trump and I don't them I rather. You be upset at that other guy the me especially if I'm the one lying your ass for over forty years. A acting like these cities haven't had republican mayors though. Who who's pork said he had. WHO's Portland Leeann Blooberg? WHO's Portland's Republican mayor? PORTLAND, but I mean. Cities have had republican mayors. I mean. Let's talk! Better in Philadelphia under. Frank Rizzo I dunno Chris, again I'm asking the question, but like I would. I would go so far to say that. I don't know I. Go. What's up out? He grand, he's not. He's not listening. He's not wrong I mean this is a stat and I. Just looked so I could be clear. America's twenty-five were cities are Democrat. s just. ESTES A fat. Like you can't you can't. Argue with facts and yes, when you see Joe Biden as the president is like. Damn. We not GONNA. Try nothing new. We tried something new with President. Obama President Obama. was something something new I thought I thought the Democrats would continue to go. Down that. That lane I thought that they would continue to get black Browning Yanga more diverse with gender and Joe. Biden Scans people because yes, it feels like somebody's same old same will one saying that I wants to say something, but another thing Chris and again Chris I'm just asking these questions here, but I feel like the only way you can make change. Is through accountability and I feel like just pointing the finger at the other side doesn't acknowledge. I don't know the failures of of your own side in a way and we look the democratic mayors have failed I mean to me. It's more. A call of like. Do we really want a two party system you know like? We don't have to be married to a two party system I agree I dreams. Have Multiple parties, and that can get confusing, and it can cause issues, and you have to build coalitions, but in a way it keeps people more accountable right and that's what I would like to see I'm with you on that when I when I vote locally in New York City, I always vote Green Party. Party, even if the candidates on the Democratic ticket because I just want to urge, they're being more diversity in terms of your choices I. Don't think it's healthy to have two parties. View on that I just feel like. I just feel like if I was one of those. If I was one of those old senators. been preaching about all the change. You'RE GONNA. Make and how much you're going to help minorities and how much you're gonNA, help the oppress, but hasn't done anything to do. In forty years I would love if you focus all your attention on that other party I would love you focused attention on on trump and Mitch McConnell, and all these other characters over on the on the right, because it takes attention off of me in the fact. That I haven't done anything that's that's what I would love our tour. You're GONNA say just one thing turn note to crime is related to dense populations right and mimics populations. Lean! Democratic so it's like that. I wouldn't say it's the governmental rule. That's causing the crime. I, think it's just population I'll brings up a good point about exist. You mean like cities? Yeah, like h metropolis like that's not necessarily true because I. Mean You got no Memphis in? Rural areas like Augusta Georgia Nino. A Cook Florence South Carolina Yeah. They'll always. Like making George, like I'm looking at the list right now like you got. Cities on there, but you got really is these Rural Areas Albany Georgia? You Know Monroe Louisiana. Florence South, Carolina Mobile Alabama like. It is interesting I mean. It is it is interesting. It's just like if you really WANNA. Make change at a certain point time. We've got to be a lot less finger-wagging in on. There's got to be a little bit more points to and just gone i. what can we do and by self me like literally? What can I do as a person but more like holding your party accountable if you had these motherfuckers are representing you and you're out in your own city destroying the city and protesting and the city. You're effectively protesting against your decision. To elect people. People have lost faith in the Democrats at the worst possible. And that's the Democrats fault. Deputy Democrats for thousand sixteen was the worst possible time and people stayed home I got I I say this number all the time. Four point, four million people over in two, thousand, Twelve, eight home twenty sixteen thirty. Then we're black. And don't be surprised if people stay home like that in two thousand and twenty. ownby shocked. And guess what is nobody's fault, but the Democrats and they're always putting the burden on black and Brown voters, the show up for them when they haven't shown up for black and Brown voters and fucking decades. The truth to the matter. WanNa pay some bills and deep dive into a little Kanye. West says doing yes. Let's pay some bills of first balls to look to squarespace. squarespace turns your dream into a reality. Okay, squarespace makes it easier than ever to launch your passion. Whether you're looking to. Start a new business showcase your work published content sell products in more squad spaces tool for you. Beautiful templates I created by world class designers in the ability to customize just about anything with a few clicks. You can easily make a beautiful website yourself. Okay. squarespace is powerful ECOMMERCE functionality. 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You asked me a question shows. What was that question? I asked You What are your thoughts? Kanye West. What are my thoughts? Kinda was as far as what I was curious about Kanye West. You know we are potentially going to do. The monologue on him and everything that's happened and I was curious what you thought. His condition was and. if you had a condition and Yeah, I just wanted to know and I wanted to get your perspective on it. And, you thought had very interesting perspective. I think Kanye was he's clinically diagnosed with bipolar. Yes, that we know. But. I. Just. I'm skeptical of the fact that. Does always tend to happen around album. And you know. Connie Kanye by far is do is the most entertaining figure in rap ever. Like it's not even close if this was wrestling. He is the Wayne to rock. Johnson nobody cuts better promos. Okay, nobody creates more compelling SPEC script spectacles. He is, he is the best. He knows how to start waters to catch fish and I just pay attention to the time line I remember. You know like a month ago. that. They announced he was a billionaire. Right. That really garnered attention or make the noise. That, he probably wanted so he calls of Forbes and tell us about my fucking network. Then and I'm probably I'm probably skipping some things. Oh, the gap do the gap deal gets announced. Five percent, equity and gap. Great. But. That didn't really make the splash flash. You know Puts out of song. On a song with Travis Scott, video and everything. That didn't get a split. Ain't really go garner a lot of attention you know. Of course you mentioned and stuff like that, but. Obama when you tweet out. I'm running for President in two thousand and twenty. Even know, it should have been something we'd we. None of us paid attention to because it wasn't real. Just like now. The campaign isn't real, but at least I guess. He registered with the F. E. C., but at the time he hadn't even registered with the FCC. So I wasn't even something we should have really gave any energy to what the media. Just like Kanye. Loves attention. The media just like Kanye loves a headline media just like Khan loves publicity. So of course the media's going to run with that story, and it became a thing so now, okay? Now I got. Right now got you really paying attention, so let me just keep pushing on this kind. YEA, were president thing so what's next I? I'm not really ready to do with the F. E. C.. PEOPLE NOT GONNA. Take it too seriously, but they are taking it seriously. Let me really register with the FCC. NC's what happened. Oh I says you dropping up. That gives a lot of attention. Note you still laying register with the FCC now. Now Kanye says let's go have this rally in South Carolina we can signatures to be on the South Carolina Bali lied on the South Carolina due to Dan Riley, say all of this while Shit, all of these headlines. What do you do the next day? You don't even turn in the fucking signatures. Right so, how serious are you really about running for President? If you don't turn in the mother, fucking signatures got everybody up in up in arms. Because of a statement, you said about. Harriet Tubman. It pains me. And? I can understand Kanye West sometime in what he's trying to say. It really does Hanes me because I understood what he was trying to say, all simply was saying was Harriet. Tubman didn't really free slaves because you're never truly free. And, a white supremacist system right. But. It's bullshit. Every topic did free sleep? She did our job and and it's up to. US each generation. Continue to push for the liberation that we all want as black people in this country, right? That's why I love to make a malary's the name her organization 'cause. It's called until freedom. Right until freedom so basically there's no peace the work will continue to be done until we have true freedom, so everybody is like a baton. Harry did what she she passed. The next generation at generation did what they did. An every generation we get closer and closer and closer and closer to the freedom that we're trying to acquire right boom very next day. What is kind Yay, due to make y'all forget about this. Harriet Tubman Shit. What the fuck does he do now? I'm GonNa Tell Ya something last two days have been the most honest and most genuine I think Kanye West has been I think when he's talking about his marriage I think he's honest. I think he's genuine about that that. I truly believe right. Everything. Else I have to be skeptical about if agreement Dhamma Galleries told us the fifth agreement. Be Skeptical, but listen so I'm just listening because I'm aware the brothers have been clinically diagnosed with bipolar bright, but it just makes me wonder why. All of this stuff conveniently happens when he's got an album coming out. When he's got things he wants you to pay attention to like sneaker releases I'm not mistaken. It's a Goddamn jozy dropping on the twenty four. This Friday is an album dropping. This Friday is a movie dropping this Friday. It just makes me skeptical. These manic episodes in these headline grabbing things he does when he's gotTA album dropping. That's all I'm saying I think that I think that's completely reasonable. I don't think you're belittling mental health in any way when you show your skepticism, one hundred percent and I was on the same page as you until. Thirty minutes before we started recording his podcast optimum. But having a conversation. And it comes out attention net. This last! Rant or outbursts? Whatever you WANNA call. Kai is doing. Potentially jeopardizes the gap deal. which he could make billions of dollars on. Why do you think jeopardize because four brands like gap? or any brand rather, you're taking a huge risk when you're doing business with Kanye. Because of these outbursts now you taking risk because of the side like only desperate brands get invested in Kanye West's. Adidas wasn't popular and it was struggling, and then he has this huge surge gap was as low as you possibly can be. Was Non existent right, and then the stock prices shoot. I'm sure all the people in his camp right now are brand new people right because he can. Only I'm sure he like filters in and out of people I'm sure like some the closest people around him have no longer friends and I'm sure that at at APP and with Rappers, adamant producers I'm sure happened with the people that doing so everybody that's in business with them is basically and business selfishly Lybia. What can I get out of this? I'm attached as big name as popping. But when I figured. When we figured it the gap deal. WAS AT STAKE Potentially because of how crazy he was acting. I go now, this has got to be serious mental illness because he doesn't make close the amount of money on his music as he does on his clothes, the music is pennies compared to close right so you don't risk billions for millions. And I'm like Oh shit. Then we're talking to some folks in and it turns out. Kanye has plenty of these breakdowns. We just don't know about them. Plenty of these breakdowns happen. Plenty plenty of these breakdowns happened when they're not surrounded by a situation like this. And what often happens with his breakdowns is he gets emboldened by his successes so when he becomes a billionaire when he. GETS THIS DISEASE E DEAL All the sudden? He becomes. So he already has this like amazing belief in himself now that increases ten times, and he goes as it should as would most people when you have success, but maybe with someone who's bipolar. It goes even more extreme than you are I. And I'm like Oh shit. This guy is really fucking struggling. So when we see that guy, we see him saying he's horrible things and we see them saying these incredibly divisive things and borderline. Borderline Tamra disrespectful things. Harriet tubman risks her life time and time again to free slaves right now. She didn't have the ability to free them from. Systemic oppression. She didn't have billion freedom from a white supremacist system, but she did freedom, but when he saying these things. I think that. While we can ask him to be accountable for his actions a hundred percent. We also got to realize we're looking at crazy men. were or I don't. I don't like you. But I get what you're saying. Let's you sick. We're looking at sick person that this person. The jets sick and We and Mabel that sickness when we give him our attention, we enable that sickness when we keep fucking with the clothes and keep fuck the music and I'm not saying. Don't fuck fuck with the music, but. It's hard for him to not to continue getting these opportunate opportunities. If the second he drops them, shoot or lined up. You know what I mean. It's I don't have the answer just yet. I don't even know if I'll ever have the answer, but. I think. The more I look at it. I'm like wow, here is a person. It is incredibly talented, and because of his talents were willing to look the other way when he is clearly sick, and maybe the thing that we do is just be like Yo, man, we love you. You've done some amazing things, but. You know we want you to get better. We want you to get help and we can't keep enabling the sickness well. It's two things about that. Right I don't think I don't think that I. Don't think any adult can enable another Oh when it comes to your mental health issues, and what I mean by that is on your was forty two years old. I can't hold him down and tie him down and force him. To take his medication. You know what I'm saying like. We're on Yays clearly very aware of everything that he's going through because he tells us. It's not like he's a delusional. person who doesn't know, hey, I deal with bipolar. You know what I mean who doesn't know he's a a man he's. He's said these things to US Brian multiple occasions. We do I think we We we we do ourselves a disservice by making it seem like an adult can make another adult. Do something you know you, if you. If you know you have a problem, you know you have a sickness. You have to go in an entry. Designate and when it comes to the gap stuff man. Once again I'm I'm I'm skeptical only because. I think he mastered playing catch. You Suck! Because When you, when because those are the those are? The those are the gyms that went unheard at the rally, right? Things like. The gap. Don't have no black people on this board. For D don't have no black people on his board. I'm walk away from the gap if they don't do such such and such, what happens to gap stocks gap stock drops like six percent the next day. What does that do? It makes you Khanjian more valuable now. Or now people started looking under the hood, and like the gap. Don't have no black people on his board, and you gotta ask. Why is it Cognac on the board of DITA's? He's he's. He's made that company companies net worth triple quadruple. Why no black people on the board of Adidas and why wouldn't that black person be Kanye, west, and when you go in that rally and say hey. I want eighty ninety percent from Adidas and I'M GONNA. Walk Away You may not eighty ninety percent, but they might increase your fifty percent and put you on the board. And Innocent I. Don't know I've just seen him do this before, and he's usually gets what he wants. When he does this. You know what I mean when he does yes, rats and shit. He usually gets what he wants. He gets what He. is going after he gets what he's complaining about so. I? Don't know I think that a lot of times we we. We like the US mental illness mental illness. And I would never tried to downplay anybody's illness, but sometimes you can be a man child to. Sometimes, you can be a narcissist as well. You know what I'm saying. So so two things can be true. Be All of these things like it's not. GonNa be a combination holidays. Sometimes, the mental illness induces the narcissism. Right, and it just makes it that much stronger and much more powerful and It makes it that much trickier to treat in a lot of mental illness a month family row. You know so. It's like summit. I gotTA deal with first hand and I see it I see they. They actually say that certain people like it's not denial. Denial is part of the illness, so as the illness gets as the sickness gets stronger, and you get more and more entrenched into that bipolar episode. It's not. That you believe is your denying that you have a problem. The illness literally is telling you. Hey, people are going to try to tell you have a problem. Your. Brain is so. So willing to believe whatever paranoia. It feels this. It's very difficult. Talk someone out of it. And I just feel like the only thing that he understands his attention, and if we keep on giving him undertake this on the attention that he's going to keep on leading into it. I didn't tell him people. Why do we keep this campaign? As not even real attention, and then we're going to be upset. We. We say these stupid things are crashes. Bro, we fuck do every one of these shows on TV's about the housewives. It is so the real housewives of that. It's just women fighting. It's just a car crash show. In Cabo style. But like for real, that's what it is is like. How do we get people to fight? We Love The fucking car crash and stadium people to argue. And we say these things like Oh. Kanye. West is a distraction. He's only a distraction. That action. Okay you have to turn to that channel. You have to turn to that channel. I'm GonNa tell you to wild thing about Canada and this is always the scariest thing in regards to mental health and just regards the people who UC crash and burn. It's all the qualities that make you that break you my. Queen in my life. Marvette Brito Marvette. Brittle who I love daily you know helps me everyday. You know as a man and as as a professional. She has this quote where she says Your talent will take you. Were your character can't sustain. Your talent will take you or your character can't sustain. When I see Kanye worse. Now known Kanye West since. The beginning because I was in radio by the time he you know, he starts. I met Con-, Yan, like oh six something like that. I've I've known Kanye from from from a long time ago, we got way. Oh pictures together to interview him back in the day like when I was windy. Like also he's always been the same person. Like. What is what we're not seeing anything different? He used to call these ranch. These things we used to call rant US things we now call ranch. We used to call them. Bourbeau screams of consciousness remember when we used to use that term in Riyadh the Connie verbal screams of consciousness. If he was upset about not being in the fashion industry, you would vin. Vin about it if he was upset about your them. Not playing Jesus walks on the radio. He would vin about it. If everybody was doing the street rap, Cognac came into game going to do the backpack showing everything else literally when people would go left, he would go right. It's just that when he went off, right, we wasn't fucking with it no more. How dare Kanye West go against the grain. That's who the fuck Kanye West is. He always goes against the grain. Let's be honest for a second people. He stood on that stage in heat. He, he muttered something before Mike Myers it didn't really make much sense. and. Kanye went and did what he always does I. he tries to regurgitate with. Somebody tells him he's heard, and that didn't come out right, so he went with his feeling. George George Bush doesn't care about black people and let's go no facts to back that up. Okay. No facts to back that other than other than other than what happened in new. Orleans Hurricane Katrina right. Hi, everybody every, but that's why everybody out solid. Maybe he meant to say George Bush doesn't care about Iraq people. And he got that should switch. No, no, no, no, no, no, he was! Asked what? No. No, no, he was home. Hurricane Katrina was w hurricane Katrina I think. The war in Iraq Bro, but what about the late response that George? Bush Did in New Orleans right. It was a late response, but Konya said George Bush doesn't care about all black people. It's not sit here and act like that was the most profound sheet in the world to say, but that's how people felt at the time. Yeah! I felt that way yes. He tell us any black people felt that. Against Him Yeah I think I, think Kanye. West is quite possibly the worst communicator in the history of all I'm saying let's not act like just because we agreed with a line, it was some profound to say and I think I think oftentimes when we see people who are so gifted at one thing we assume those gifts trickled down to the other things they do in life like I remember once my my father would would cover boxing back in the day, right? and Mohammed Ali. Was You know he was the biggest fan of Mohammed? Ali and he'd go cover. It has training camps. That kind of stuff and he saw Mohammed Ali throw a baseball or football once any through kind of like a girl. How like girls don't have the best coordination when they throw and my dad could not believe it, if like the most perfect athlete ever seen his entire life like through the baseball weird and I think that's. He was so shocked because you saw who so prolific right? Not. Maybe that is, conic. I was thinking about another point just now. Yes, he's. He's not the greatest Reno Taylor Swift Shit. Like. S It was ignorant as. Yeah like who are you? Other than a ego driven narcissists. Even though you're in the thing that you we. We didn't get mad at Khan four because he because we sat back and we was like FBI. Say shooter one right, but no the did was ignorant in wrong as Fuck I. Sorry to interrupt you. What he said, pardon my time. Tan Lima? Instead it. He was like I'm giving your time now unless you talk about. I'm really happy for you I'm let you finish, but beyond to have one of the best videos of all time. Best video saw town I'm gonNA. Let you finish. Beyond had the greatest video of all time and he. Some ignorant shit. What I'm saying all that to say? Let's not act like Kanye was just started doing shit Why are we acting like? This isn't the same Kebab. Is because he's not rooting for. He's not saying. Or what people aren't being ignorant on black people. There you go. He's not being stupid on black people have. He's just being stupid for Magli and being stupid. itself serving would hit the thing. It's always been self serve. As always been ego driven, he's always been a narcissus. He's always thought he was better than everybody. He's always claimed to beat a Louis Vuitton. Not Everybody's like. Oh, he's. He loves white people so much. When the fuck is Kanye West? Not White people. Talks about his inspirations gone. You don't be mentioned in no black people. Always wanted validation from white people. Well I think Kanye wants validation from whoever doesn't give it to him. Bright, so black people gave it to him, so he's like all right does dope and then the fashion people didn't so he's like I need their validation, and then he finally gets it from them, and then some other group doesn't so. He's always gravitated to the. It's an insecurity thing man. He's always gravitated the people that won't validate them. It's gotTa be another word other than contrary, because I'm telling you, and that that goes back to what I was saying earlier, the thing that. He made. You can also break you because bro, tell kind you if you tell Kanye. He can't do something he's going to do it. That's why he was able to succeed is a will his greatest. Yes. That's why he's able to succeed in the fashion world, but now you're telling him. Don't you support trump? Fuck you I'm going to support trump. Don't you run for president, but you go run for president like he does whatever it is that you say he can't do going back to what Marvette said. Talent will take. You were character can't sustain you money. Don't change you shots. Money just multiplies whatever it is. The fuck you are, and I'm all of this. I truly believe Kanye whether the good person I. Truly believe that I truly believe Kanye West is a good human being. Yeah, just what? He's also a narcissist. y'All also ego driven like a motherfucker yeah. I think there's a story I can't say who told me, but apparently when his first album came out, he was having like the celebration. Dinner or whatever for the for the but album, and there was like twenty people that he was just like the close team that people who made it happen Yay and ours I. Everybody who is really they're invested in him and made it happen, and apparently at that dinner he's going. Nobody believed in me nobody. Nobody said I could be wrapping. Nobody said whatever and everybody at that dinners like. We believed in you. We're here we. Of course, we wouldn't be here if we didn't think that you could do, but he has the mentality of. Doubt here's the mentality of they think I can fashion. They think I can make it as a rapper. They think I can't do be on the board of whatever, and that motivates him in that pushes him, but if you company that if you accompany that with mental illness, it's not a good motivator. It's A. Dude it's the thing that will destroy you. You say has yeah. Yeah, I mean that's what drives him. What drives him is people doubting him? Yet, but when you when you add paranoia to it when you add the paranoia of and illness. Is Not just like Michael. Jordan is the example of someone who had the doubt in drove him right, but it didn't drive him crazy. Kenya's example of someone who has the doubt drives him, and then it's a company with mental illness, and you don't know what the fuck the guy could do. And and let's not. Let's not discount the fact that. He probably hates his fucking marriage. Was Not discount the fact that he hates being in that. Relationship. Let's not the fact that he probably hates is mother-in-law. He's. He tweeted out this morning. He'd been trying to divorce Cam for two years. What I'm saying. He tweeted that out this morning. I guess Google Guler this up. Even trying to divorce Kim for the past couple of years I don't know why A. are still together who the fuck knows if you? WanNa be with him. What advantages they was. Saying like like I I don't understand. Why feel like Kim can not be in this relationship like why like it seems to meet it. Her life gets way easier without him. He got all the money. You don't need the money. She got the kid she everything's good. Yeah, but I on these Connie. Provide her I think that she wants his marriage. Though I think that's what it is, it has her first one was seventy two day. Allow. That has the her. If you look at it like that, it's almost like. achieve she a hero in this situation. If she's just in this to try to keep the relationship together, keep the marriage together for either for for her kids like she's putting up with all that shit. She don't need the money. She don't need the stress putting up with all this Kim's. Fifth Marriage was now is her third married I think 'cause he was. She was weird that other guy. So I guess. Married to one do then Kris Humphry Lsu Athas mayor someone like a eighteen, gwen. Married that producer eighteen year is, all I know is. All of these things that were saying could be true. You. Know I just find it highly highly amusing. that. All of this shit happens around album. Why just album time. and. This guy has to be the greatest of all time. The Hulk couldn't even fucking keep this rage when he wanted to. The hall can't control this Shit Outta fucking. Kanye West Control, is she. Just around album time he lets this shit out the Goddamn cage, just enough like yesterday one day I think it was Monday or Tuesday he just went on his whole tweet storm. Had everybody going on these rabbit holes? All this shit was trained in and he comes back. I'm just going to focus on music. Today, he's posting track listings. Even all that shit about Cam and meek and everything, but came right back to that. God damned Donda Trek here all right and guess what I'm going to be doing on Friday listening streaming that mother. Okay, that's exactly what the fuck I'm going to be doing I told Andrew. I bet you if I google right now it some yeezy dropping on Friday and and trust I'm not a sneak ahead, so I don't know what the fuck this means. Some Correct me if I'm wrong. On Friday the motherfucking Adidas Yeezy, three eighty, blue haute reflective dropping. Price Two hundred and thirty dollars release date July. Twenty, four, two, thousand twenty. He got a movie coming out I. Respect the fact that this man knows how to create compelling spectacles like none other the only people that keep mother fuckers paying attention to them. The way he does is the Kardashians. And I'M GONNA. Tell you something else. I said this on the radio this morning I. Don't feel sorry about Kanye spilling. All of this family business and the reason I don't feel sorry about him. Spilling all of his family business because their family business is spilling, their family business right? Okay. Everybody else should get put on blast. Why can't there's and you think that this isn't going to be on mother? fucking new season keeping up with the Kardashians. E cutting, check right now. He's like cameras rolling witness shit is happening. If the cameras are rolling. Let's get this okay. Oh you recording Kim crying on the phone with Konya. Let's get this every little headline about them becomes fodder for their TV. Show they not. Christian and not about to get a bag off this shit and guests way. They're also bag off mega stallion, too, because Kelly was there. Arraigned thinks he has something to do. With that. You, crazy, Taylor's taller than Tori lanes bre. Doesn't I don't know how true that. while. I don't know of his true Tori Lanes Shot Megan stallion. What happened though for Real I. Don't know and I don't know why. Why story being protected in this situation I don't know. WHO's protecting him? I mean I. Guess they're not. Much! Who Sang Out? I guess because it's still being investigated, so they can't say anything again, but if I'm if I'm making a stallion and somebody shot me in the foot. In this social media tour it would have been a tweet Tara laser shot me in a fucking foot, yeah! Like why they not? It's gotta be something more. You can't hear them story lane shop McGinnis dying I got to be something more. I wouldn't say I think she can't say it was Tori because then whatever happened in that situation is going to her business. GonNa come out to then I. Think Orleans protecting from some. You've was protecting her from someone. I I think it's something we all know I. think that somebody I think there's something we don't know I. believe to our lives protecting Maginnis Day, so he could act and. Toys not in jail. He's not Taurean. Shoe in really. I'm telling you right now. I think towards protecting the stallion bro. And you mean it's the best friends in the car. Make died in the car lanes in the car and nobody's talking about what happened. Get the fuck Outta here in this. Arrow where all we do is talk about what the fuck happened in real time. I'm. GonNa be can't see Tory. Lanes I can't see Tory lanes shooting made Stein into foot just because he was upset with her. I know. either. I. Just think it's very strange that nobody has anything to say about. This incident people that were there. That's very weird. Telling highlight what we believe. Tori Shatter, and I think Megan is hiding. Could Herbert's is GonNa? Come out to. Your Business. What business. was already a secret I guess in a way that they were fucking around and on instagram lab all the time. Taylor the L., but people could think that is friends. They don't people know that they were fucking tonight. I love that because it reminds me of Wenham back in my day when I was a whore, all women. Bro. The women love short men. You'll some of the greatest women. Did I've ever seen stop? All Women Love Short member. All women love at least call. Can Compete. You guys up to then. If Tory shot. Make this dying because of his fragile. Ego Tori lanes is a complete suck but I think. The Bro. Know anybody fuck with us a fuck with. Tori on no way mean. If we find out toy, shut meg his diet in the foot Tori a rap. You think it's over for him or the suit a woman. In the foot. Them it took Chris Brown forever to rebound. That's not Trishaw tell me, didn't it? Didn't take Chris Bro. They tried to and he was right. But. Are insured. He didn't play the and play him on the radio and everything, but he was still coming with. Some could translate you so Chris Brown for ever. ME. Firyal, Still listened to Chris. They were upset with him. Don't we wrong way only maybe for like after maybe too much three months as it's been been going way. No Way No Way. For like two. who? Out of the people are listening to know people chewing double meant. It was all about it. Bro Chris Brown was Oh nine. He lost all that. Shit Nah radio. With him. Around many Chris Brown let me see Chris Brown album after Riana incident. Let See. He killed transform you MA I! Remember that Song. Yeah, he had like a mixed tape. From our. News doing transform your day. fucking in two, thousand, ten or twenty fifth winning fifteen. Let me see. Now, what was the fast song with Busta rhymes? Okay, it says rows rob rouse shards. Felonies Coming, from Bremen rods rat so fucking fast, and it was almost like. Look at me now. Look at me now. Okay? He put out an album congress speedy I can. The single transform you. Kill Basha was crazy. White I. Don't Remember Graffiti Dan a big. If, he was not how it was was on the way back. That's how he was. He, he peaked at number eleven on the RB. Hip Hop songs charts. They okay the next year. They okay the next State Electric Brown perform at the BT awards. He cried. That's. Braveheart and he did a Michael Jackson tribute. To wild thing about this. If you look at this Yada was killing. Yeah, number one. Like she was killing. Yet Chris Brown's first number one single since two thousand six was Deuces, and that was a that was a year in six months after the incident. That's nothing. Fast Muscle with win. That's quick, but none of just say though the potato by every. Trouble he kept getting into. Being somebody. Robin Roberts Shit. We check. Listen? Let's pay some bills. How about that? Yeah! Let's pay some bills. Moral of the story is I guess. I don't know proof. Yeah, pray for all have them in. The Way Real, quick. When y'all motherfucker say pray for somebody, don't just use the Goddamn Hashtag some prayer hands really get on your mother fucking knees and pray for people and stopped performing for fucking social media. I hate that Shit because I know y'all. Don't really pray if you being honest with yourself, be honest with yourself, Taylor. Did you put Hashtag pray? That perhaps type pray for you. Yes, no! said. prefre create in the past couple of days. Yeah, actually talking you really pray for him. Why am I? Why don't have to get on my knees to pray? Why can I just like? Don't you do that? How do you go to God is watching you? Watching you. Hey God's going to transform your Britain better frigging, Hey. Tell the truth. I last night honestly. I did any she is lying I'm? A knows your. That's the crazy part God knows your line. Why why do you think I had to be lying with it? And I I would say no, then promised to God that you prayed for Kanye last night. The guy that I pave Kinda. He says she put him in it. She didn't say last night. You said you put them in it. I put him in the end the middle. I don't believe you. where, we're at what he get, was he like the star was he wanted to? Stars cost you did. Do. I don't understand why you have to get on your knees to pray. Though Charlotte understand why that's part of it, you could probably do the prayer just as good if anything. You're closer to God standing. Right like if they used to be looking up on your tippy toes like your you. Air. Hey I don't think you have to get on your knees, but I just want. You ought to look at all allies. Taylor told in a matter ten seconds I. She said I pray for him. I just didn't get on my knees this. He said no I prayed for him last night. We you want. To tell. US last night now. See what I'm saying. Something ain't adding up what. I don't care I. don't Care God knows. Don't matter if you lie to me. Listening audience. Right Afra- you should repent. For so so God don't transform you for fucking name promised to him. When you know you lie, let's let's do it. Do the prayer for. like. A prayer God will. Lead the preference con- you go tale? go! Heads Dear. Dear Guide. All this tragedy happening in the world condemn. This You've never done it won't. Exactly. You've ever done about. owned. I pray in public decimated. Bravo. Here Lord. ACT Like we're not here. My dear guys go. Thank you for looking over. Everybody I care about and. Don't care about. He also looks. To, you can't interrupt the prayer. Disrespectful on my bed. Go. Value Head. Go, he'll all right the alert. Thank you for looking after mean everyone that I care about on in these trying times. Please look after Kanye West who is obviously dealing with a lot of not distress by. A condition and please guide him through. Is decisions the right decisions. Please give him the strength encouraged to say the correct things and find a worried for the correct way to say what he really wants to say. please says bless over everybody. Jesus name. We pray yeah ask. Felt that one you know going that's on your. Andrew tweeted throughout the whole. I was praying by way. We always got a different ways. Andrew said I'll let you do the parameter. Put his tag out. But. Isn't that a prayer in? Any way. If you feel like you're tweeting a, you feel some type of way forward. No think about Oh. That is not a prayer. The people that are just tweeting like. Praia hands for Kanye. You don't think that they don't absolutely not all performance. You have if they're being honest with themselves, they have. Performed for each other on social media. When something is hot, you gotta get the lights in the driving by that crispy cream and that God damn Houghton allies on when a topic is hot. You GotTa Post about that Shit. Right then and there in order to get them likes Bro. In order to get them re tweets. In order to get them. Re Post, yes. I don't believe people that say pray for year. Really praying for you. You know one thing I've I've always prayed for was closed. Fit and is it's actually cooled it. There's his company now called Indochino dead it, they will make custom made a custom made, and custom sized close for you. Okay, you can go into one of their locations. Obviously, Corona's a little bit tricky, but you can also do the digital. The virtual style consultation is shop online. 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I don't have to agree with somebody as long as they make me think. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's all I. Ask for all I ask for the compensation. Even if I disagree with you I. DON'T APPROACH A conversation convinced. I approach conversation with what I believe I know. If you could give me a compelling. That makes me think about what I think. I'm convinced by. Yeah. You did your job yeah, as a personality as a commentator whatever you know. And I told Andrew last week I said. GimMe auto black jokes you don't use. Crack. Nowhere some good black jokes, you ain't letting rip and that's good. I'm glad you're not letting them fly. Everybody. Jokes, everybody gets jokes borough keeping it all it. Got A lot of content You know that I got a lot of things to create in the next couple of months. Oh Man, you know I got you bro Anything I could do help on their. All Blacks, the ones that. That that you know, go make me cringe and laugh. At the same time. The ones that Alex says we can include right before. Ask. A one. I want we all got a black read through? Listen, like jokes matter, Bro. Birthday matter when they come from black people. Slide him until. All He. Matter of fact when I started this new TV. Show when you see certain things, right? I want to bring in listeners. Now, that's a heavy. Came from. A. Asking Idiot and get the fuck Outta here. Let's do it what we got Taylor. Carry answered so. UNDISCUSSED six. How would you feel if you had kids? Ages eighteen to twenty five that decided date someone older than. y'All by fifty and up. Was Your be mad at? What is the question? Basically? Would you have y'all is a lot of math in this shit basically would be upset if your daughter dated someone older than me. Yeah almost. She said like Y'all. Only daughter cannot date nobody older than me. No without a doubt, no never not happening. Darla. You have daughters so. I. Mean you know that's such a difficult question? Because you really can't control what a young lady does our wants to do and I think that a lot of times when women get putting those positions they do. What kind was does do what you tell them not to do. You know what I'm saying do that I I really don't know. I wouldn't like it. I definitely wouldn't approve of it I definitely. Don't want this old motherfucker coming over Thanksgiving. The Fuck is wrong with you and if I had won God damn, you know complaint that my daughter don't know who the fuck Tang clan is I'll probably put you in your fucking mouth. Yeah, you might age and dating a Goddamn eighteen. Yoda of course, you would know how to Fuck Wu Tang clan is. Imagine. That's come to my house. He might age. Mad At me because my daughter. Thought you was the hip hop? Guy Sharla. It'll be accidental shooting in Jersey that night. And he's like. Accident of shooting at the House. You gotTA. Worry about your daughter and your wife. Come for the whole family. Comfortable whole fairly, everybody's watch. Listen I. Don't judge men that date you know. Much much older, much much younger women I don't judge, but I do judge. I just don't understand why. The fuck would you at Audie Two? Years old one a date eighteen year old woman. And they give them more energy or keeps them beyond you better. Take some see moss. I better find some strong pre-workout. Fuck, you mean. Yeah what else o'clock at asking o'clock was no hands, wants to know one hundred thousand years from now one person that will be discussed most of all people as president living today, who will be discussed the most one hundred years from now? Dazzling over. Years we go nobody Vermont. Hundred hundred a hundred years from now who will be discussed the most current person? Be Allowed I would say not I. Don't think trim I I'd actually think. Depending on what happens, it's Elon Musk, because if we go to Mars and we actually like populate Mars. I think we're going to do. Well, of course, motherfuckers are GONNA. Talk about the guy that got us they're. So big and might be you unless it, and also if we do the neuro link thing he's talking about where we actually like partner up with robots, and we use near link to like improve our brains. And all of us are on that. We're GONNA. Talk about the guy who started it i. Think Zealand Musk Bro. Hundred depends on if the e Lan Musk of Mars are whatever planet a universe comes to Earth. You know what I'm saying. Gay At first, and it's a wrap asked what I'm saying. If aliens come here, First Alon must is no longer genius. Yes, he's only he's only genius because based off our standards and our IQ levels. Got To and what we've created here. He's the tallest midget day. Your goals Tori lanes. He's he's Tori lanes in a room. Full of do boss. Right. He's toiling. Taller, Say definitely. Tory. Weights all the tour, yes, one hundred one. Yes and his voice gets way lower when he. Goes. No, he's not you know I know because I've never seen the top story lanes, Hey. I can like when you're standing by Lavar. You can see his balls, but. Okay. Remember when we had Tori in the studio. Yeah, and I had the overhead I've tried to nick come. Put the camera on his. He was about the fight mic. TV cameras get that overhead shot. I couldn't see that just standing up next to Tori. Down to know, but even standing up. You didn't notice that. You notice the boss Biden. Do Balls I ain't. He was wearing pumps he might. Oregon some sort of platform shoe store got. I. Don't think so not do most taller bro. Thanks I think because you think you've all told us skinnier though you like. On another both pretty skinny. Tories skinny. Yeah, but the law shows more has skinny. Did they? Hit. See his shirt off. You don't see Tory links. Shirt off the whole tone. I'm looking. Okay Anyway. Whether this last two. Two more as Kevin. The MO MOA with cancel kosher. Add An all time high Dr. thing is anyone who's truly cancel yours syllable as your fans allow I. Think Descends on Cancer Nice. Your fans dictate if you're canceled or not, that's all comes down to. Everybody's a business. And the shareholders aside so if you decide to do a show on comedy central, for example, and you say something, if the fans of comedy central don't like then they could canceling from that show, but those people can never take away your fans. Your fans fuck with you for who you are and what you say saying your natural opinions. The only way you cancel, buy your bands. You Change your opinions or that's. That's what people don't realize about this. Cancel should. Be cancelled from spaces that your fans never existed in the first place, but if your fans fuck with you for what you say, they'll let you say whatever word whatever opinions because they know your intentions house truly been canceled. Take it who is truly been canceled. You could lose shit you can. You can lose your. You can lose opportunities, but WHO's been canceled. What did that when people say canceled? What does that even mean I? Mean I think we didn't think we thought that term because we need to have a word for what we're attempting to do to a person to fuck Israeli been cancel. What about that politician that used to be on snl from Minnesota some shit. Fuck Al Franken Al Franken? He out here. You lost his job, but he's still comes on TV sometime he does. He's been. Out Franken Weiner Mar.. He got cancelled. Yet is look I'm not saying I'm not saying the allegations, the different okay I think politicians different because they actually can lose shit, and that's their livelihood, and they can never be in politics because they're lying about entertainment. Wise, not because it don't same thing holds up with politicians. They're lying to their constituents. They're lying to their fans. Their supporters about who they are, so when the truth comes out their supporters go. Oh, you are who you said you were. If you're? In what you are and what you do like, imagine people trying to cancel me for making a fucked up joke. All my fans are going to do not know who he is. He makes jokes has what he does. Tell you make that until you make the fucked of joke about somebody. That's also fucked up that they like. Not because they expect that from me and my opinion I expect that from me. They expect a fucked up. Yeah, I don't know I. Don't know WHO's I. Don't know what what what what canceled. Coaches even trying to accomplish, but I don't know who's Cam beyond the I. Don't know who's. cancelable. I haven't seen nobody. You can't even when they say shit like. Kelly. Yeah R Kelly's I guess canceled, but. Because he's not able to make content off. Himself or people still make content off him. Down I'm saying so even though he's not able to profit off his own name in his own story, other people do right so I don't know same thing with with bill. Cosby like he'll be able to make money off his own story, but if somebody came out with a documentary about bill cosby right now, the bungalow lots it, so you're. You'RE REALLY NOT CANCELING A. A person you're still giving them energy. You're still keeping their name alive in a while way because you can't tell the bill cosby story without telling all this all the shit. He accomplished right because you have to talk about shit. He accomplished in order to show. Why Does Downfall Mitch somewhat anything would Kelly I need these people I don't know who I really don't know. Just means losing opportunity losing a job. I think that's a cancer doesn't mean like they have to like stop being a human being, it's simply. Did they get fired today? Lose an Auburn today. Lose A job. Disney's being blackballed in a way or via potentially blackball, but like you could always come back in different spheres, but I think that's cancelling and I. Think it is out there, and it's also argue losing job for something that you don't really believe in IT LOUIS CK CHAMPS! Yeah, he lost a lot. Now he's still to operate, but he lost millions of dollars. Loss opportunities loss his reputation, so yeah, it is a problem, but like what's I think the way that you move around. Is You create your fan base and create your supporters? Who Know You know your attention intentions, and then you service them. And it's. That's that's interesting. Because I wonder how Louis C. K. Fans field because Louis C. J.. You know he was the king of that right he was decaying of. The industry I'M GONNA. Give it to you the way I want to give it to you right and his fans love him, but he also admitted to doing what it is. The accused him of doing. Not exactly I thought he admitted the jerking off year, but it's there's a lot more that onto. That and I'm not really allowed to talk about it, but there's a lot more to the goes into that story, and that's the problem of when you give public apologies. Is you apologize for what people think? You did not what you actually did. So when he said I'm sorry. Everybody was like Oh, he held the door closed and didn't let the girls out jerked off all over him as Well. Not Be true, but even still of Fan. You S. Weird Bro Yeah. You know. Even if I'm a fan of yours, that's weird that you just you just like you like jacket off around. People like yeah. That's a little screen. That's all I wonder how his constituents feel about him. Yeah, that's all possible. Anyway donate one motel girls got. Bags Brighton. He was no. Do you think if you grind and work hard enough? Anyone can make or or make it to where they want to be or do you think some people will work so hard and still end up, not making it. Do you have any examples of people who you know that never made it, but they always worked tirelessly. I think there are a lot of people who think they're working hard, but with making it to also another thing is making it, but like I think there's a lot of people who think they're working hard, but they're just doing the fun part. You know like A. Donald, there's a lot of stand ups. Who will do like five night or frozen I in? meow always looked at the STANDUP being on stage as Work. That's the fun the work is what happens. offstage gone over your sets, understanding how to make jokes better understanding how to like market yourself and how to get your name out there and understand what your demographic is I'm like what's happening in comedy and how you can get advantage like a never once looked at being on stage, practicing the jokes as work because that is so much fun so I think a lot of people get confused about the hours of work. They put into like Y'all I'm going up every single night or yawn. Practicing this every single night is a yeah. That's the fun that's not work. Do the work. You'll get where you need to go. Yeah I mean that's a loaded question. I. Don't know if that is like one correct answer to it because Yeah, I do think making it a subjective. You know what I'm saying. And I also think that sometimes you may have a good plan, but it's not odds playing for you, so yeah you my work every night, Bush Yo ass, and you might make a great living, but you might not ever become heart. I mean you might not ever become you know. Dave Chapelle but does that matter no. You know what I'm saying like. I don't know if that matters not like so just really about what your definition of making it. A Lotta millionaire Comedians, not all over your television. Who are not hosting SNL but their houses amazing right there. Cars are amazing. You know what I'm saying. They get to pay all the bills to do with the do name. That was always torn The Indian Guy Russell Peters Russell pitas filling it. She wouldn't want to be Russell Peters at one point in time I think he was the most successful comedian the world that's that's what I'm saying, so it's just like you. I guarantee, we said name a lot I. Don't know who recipe to this. Why wouldn't you WANNA? Be Recipes David on recipe, does it? Has Dental Guard. Making making it subjective also. Yeah you work hard and you're gonNA. Get what you will out of it. Like I I think I think I think the biggest thing is defining what? What making it is! I think what I'm saying like deciding. What is enough for you or what is what is truly want? Yeah! Yeah I. Appreciate you. Thank you for tuning into. This week, my my sisters. Pie from last week. Oh yes. Late last week we've been busy. Trying to be losing shit 'cause. We gotTA. We. We got a comb through this shit with a fine tooth. Comb all right I. Don't know about Y'all my definition of making it a lot different COLETTA. And I'm bringing people with me. Okay Shell Man Nassau. Park, as you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant. Absolutely right? If you listen to this podcast, you think we're just a couple of idiots who don't know shit. You're right to Burundian podcast. Thank you for listening.

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WHAT UP, SON? - 02-10-2020

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WHAT UP, SON? - 02-10-2020

"Oh snap what's good folks and jokes employ Z.. From the same course seen Austin and this no trying to fill the role of my wife tonight is still New York. She'll be back this Wednesday until then Mr Green Geez have to hold it together. But that's all right. As is you know that this is not a show. This is it show. This would not exist without this man over here. So you know we're let me start over and giving this is his proper due court Coleman and I'm holding a dog and over here we have Mr. I agree and I'm holding up some peanuts Keith. Davidson night we the. How's everybody doing tonight? Good to have you folks tonight is going to be just fine and Dandy for you know why because it is Monday. Saying you're saying you know what Monday is full of shit man Monday especially this time of year is cold out here. I gotta get up early and get a burlap. People take take a piece. I S right when I get very about after that as husband wife I got both of House. Wife boy girl doll cat. Even that half Hamson won't some of that is right. They get to work co work before you even get to your boss co working with Matt. Ask Janet Finding your bosses taking some you take the hell out and the only piece of you have left is for us and we appreciate that because for the you know tell people all the time for the price of one one piece of ass we will bring you much happiness with the full of conversation. We Guide. I I hear that we have some stories here this evening and of course I have over here. Baking in oven is can you. Can you smell it man. Dan already not just yet but I do know the ingredients. I know it's going to smell very tasty. Soon left foolishness. Oh boy I have so many ingredients tonight. I tonight into too nice recipe. I'm trying to new US here. I found this off the Internet. Tamie see here regular chef boyardee. Yeah whereas myself head and I don't have it you know what I got a guy. I have a good foolish. Do Do for you this evening. Tone in about a dash of broke stripper broke. I'm broke in broke for money but broken down own down stripper guessing Stephen as musicians out. There you know what to out the flavor I have crashing dogs. The Indian people dressed like bears. You'll find out that he's got a lot of things and I hear tell that we might even have some interactivity going on with the toast is that there are heard that you want to you. Want take a poll is a stick s and after that we can talk about it. Don't get everybody a little bit interacted. They had had a conversation with a CO worker today and had me thinking what would the toast these do corey do but I want to hear if you know me so well yes. I'm GONNA take the into activity a little deeper if we could actually get some people on the phone talk about this. I think that'd be Kinda cool. You know we can get some people on the phone and WanNa let you know got some people right here in the studio might be able to help to you know how to ask out have some people of course not I have the I have not sit on this thing. I got to stand for K handle that but we're joined by The right here the very famous chicken embry okay. No in some places US exactly WANNA say chicken and Natasha. Josh bringing the Tasha but we know around here in these parts is chicken and Brie and also tonight we have a very special special guests. Hopefully we'll get this guy back on tomorrow because I can plan for him to come into us and stories but if you've been with us for a while I'm talking about back in those spill days and you might I remember personality by the name of Allah Frank de Remember this person US histories our legendary legendary around around here even a chicken embryo limited. That's you when you when he was on the floor with them but what I can do is have them come up and talk a little bit tonight in. He's GonNa talk about his book that he has out right here. I like I like for him to tell people about that. He has a couple of books coming out I believe in this is one of them Tad Martin. He's been doing for a while. No known a known for many years. Now it's funny now that you're not you're not Al Franken Stein anymore. Oh twenty sorry people people. I did not get the notes before I got here. He is no longer al.. Frank is dead. The people not as grave name not his slave name. He's he joined now by Casanovas. Frankenstein people success. Yeah I love it I love it to you got you got you a peanut butter in my chocolate. Ugly Guy Cast Nova Ma. Ma gives you like shit. I don't know Casanovas Casanovas. Me and Frankenstein never been friends. y'All know about that old school shit at one of those awesome back in the day but we got cast over over Frankenstein. who was an Casanovas Frankenstein? Up in here. You know what you're talking about Frankenstein. Monsters people we put a monster together for you. We took the oath G. Chat original chat combined. It with the new and this is the creature we have today before you this this hybrid set. Welcome chat cy you're doing. It's not an animal annoying. Loved the Monkey Mondays. You love to me of the monkeys. But she's not here but that it doesn't that doesn't stop them from getting wards and their accolades. Good to have your hand Chad. How y'all doing with the Chimera of a chat tonight was going on? Somebody's GonNa Samba delivered. I of course you do made his themes on but welcome Chedda how you're doing tonight. Fine good to see a good to see so we know that all music court speed and mobile goes star Ferry Thomas. He's surprised as well did he. Look at the old fashioned. You guys got people up here rig already subscribing. Well no pressure readings name. But I'm GonNa read Anyway Jiggle Boola up here with you know listen you are on the teetering slippery slope with that name. Don't let it pass. He didn't he knows he knows. Also we got a uh who is this GonNa love people in here somebody else was subscribing. Here sorry if I missed you is going so fast right here in the chat that I can't keep thank you thank you thank you thank you so much folks thank you so much. You guys have been so generous the past few days. We've had some eventful streams teams these past few days because of you folks out there. What are you thinking about the naked man? Yeah yeah I had got an email from the managers and I'm so sorry that that happened. That's like hey on the team I mean. I don't know if we should have that. I don't always get if we should continue to have negative people just going through the hallways but for that one time. It was glorious. It was fun. No cast guest Nova Frankenstein close on man. It's okay. What a strange strange does it? But when I know you too well I cannot be outdone. I'll show you Mr Cruz Mr Cruz. Thank you for the gifted subs out there. Thank you sir. Then people. Are there any subs out here appreciate it appreciate. y'All thank you so much going on that you know. Why so important to have these subs around here is the twitch game? We're going to get that Google for a little bit because a man gets a lot of Serbs believing get receive a five. Thank you Sir thank you Mr Cruise the cruise. Thank you sir. Yeah we got AH guy. I don't know who it is but it's a guy a guy It could be a girl. I'm tumbling me being sexist. It's somebody goes just by simply anonymous. And they come in. They get like twenty subs in a row sometimes so the Phantom Subir the Phantom suburb. What is this Angela? The terrible Angela. You're not so terrible you're very nice is actually you get to substitute to face you to kind to. Hey you get to the side remember really do enjoy zero here. No pressure but don't forget to to re sub animal say again. I'm telling you right now. You could also give yourself a freeze up. If you have an Amazon prime account you can get a free twitch price subscription. Oh absolutely free pay anything for it so you get any of those. Please remember to renew because we enjoy having you around here. We want to keep doing. We're doing let me see here. I'll tell you guys was happening here. Thank I told you guys what's happening on the show. Let me go ahead and actually pasted in here. You know I keep getting to do this every time I do shows but and you'll see some information Danube. Let me see if I can change it right now. Let me see if I can change this. Change the scroll text while we're actually on the air. I've always been curious about this right now. You're looking at old information. That new shit for you. That new new the new the new hotness up here for you so I think this air let me see type a bit in there and there it is I did it my God Oh is this oh they start starting right now folks books that we are we doing this this early. I was trying to buy some time and a lot of passengers. We got a lot of passages in the studio today. So it'll be it's prime for for party. I think General Loria General Saudi already by level. Three did it already we. We did it already. General thank you for thank you for the the bits right there. Thousand bits appreciate then. We already at three right. Now Take it how you know what that happened to quick. It caught me off guard. I'm here I'm not going to Goddamn thing to we get to level four. Let's let's see can make that happen. Mostly we can make the head. But I didn't y'all y'all code US completely off guard with this. I'm won't be running my mouth. Let's see if we can get to love love before you're almost there and look at it it. It's look I see almost there. Are you going to let it hang there just like that you know I. I don't mind I don't mind letting go for a little bit at the beginning but when you start passing about the twenty percent mark right there I got to wait a little bit. I gotta wait just a little bit job to what's going on over there twitch. Oh so you don't even know what this is yesterday. That's well let me explain to these young ladies over here the mistaken let me straight and MS Bryant Ms Chicken over here. What happens so we have a meter? That is called the hype train and the train as you saw it took off very crazy yesterday and what happens is people they give us a bits. They give us a subscriptions and they keep doing it until it gets to a certain level. Now we can get to certain levels that we set for ourselves they bring the generosity. We bring the hype and we we bring a like we do this. We bring hype. You've been a we we we we almost there. With ninety two percent ninety two percent ninety two percent is almost. They're looking is getting ready. Suckers all peanuts looking to it. Really all you go let a mere eight percent go by two percent. Oh my God you're going to let us stay two percent milk this time. Not Not percent all Lord. Good Gracious Mercy. What percent look at these hands hands like look at these hands begging you brain the height just one percent for the mere cost of a cup of coffee Pity Brennan Tonight so one percent what dudes. Don't let these girls me. I'm used to Y'all EDNA. Gobert let these girls. They WANNA get hype. Chris Oh my God. Is that one zero zero percent right there. Are you looking like ooh. I tasked Sir. John Awesome Talk to me. I still how fun right spot. But what do y'all go curve again. Dasell you gotta play that Kermit right there. Aw Jeez Ed. Hey the Karma was down over this poor baby right here. She don't that's why she was hired. She's it seems like they're getting hype again on. ooh ooh politics girl. I'm sorry I'm sorry too bad. Hi get you or you know. Viewing it with Daddy. You gotta get. Hi I'm bring bring the dogs because I don't like leaving there at the house by themselves. One way of is gone. Sometimes it gets somebody come by stay. I might have somebody there by combat tonight. But they've been used to leave the house so what you look at it does your visa watching right now. You don't add to get it gets you together. You got nothing to get if you just be the hype train. You don't understand anything. Tell you tell him Tom. Quick question he's thinking too hard about it. I'll tell you that the other day your hair look good. She thought it was wine. Women don't believe Holy Shit. Oh good to have you guys here. All right listen. We've got a good show tonight. got a lot of foolishness including broke down strippers we we got dogs crashing into things. We got we have a con. We're going to create a controversy tonight and that's what we're going to do. I'm going to stir some shit up and start art something. I'm starting some shit tonight. And what else do we have here. You'll find out a little bit later. You'll find the show goes along and I'm GonNa tell you everything gotta keeps something of a surprise so tell you what we're GONNA do. We're GONNA go and take a real quick break because I'm contractually obligated to do that. Go to jail if I don't. I showed this commercial right here and nobody wants that. So let's do that and we'll do I. I'm not built for prison. I can't handle it so let's not not even twist jail so let's go ahead and take a quick break and we'll be right back after this. That was some good tightness. Yeah I like it dance. I read the hype. break-dancing it's good to have you folks it tonight a gives you some updates greatly. Google thank thank you so much going to give you some updates as I say we've had some some great things happening some really really cool things happening around here but things been on the positive but on the up and up. You don't tell you not that thank you so much are here. SAY WE'RE GONNA get you involved on a little a little question that we have that is going to be bringing up a I believe yes. That's going to a buddy of mine. And he brought up something interesting. I want to share with the and hopefully get into that a little bit and unto crazy just thought I. Am I going crazy around here. You know that even if it is crazy I don't care shit crazy. Let's get shit. Let's get nuts. Let's talk about the the love for the glove dance. I am yes I am looking back. Everybody welcome back. We are back for those who are not subbed. subbed had to watch that commercial. Painful was it. But you know what you don't have to deal with commercials if you actually get yourself a subscription and you can get one absolutely free to pay for anything. If you have an Amazon prime account you can get yourself a free twitch prime subscription you'll have to deal with these pesky commercials over here like this and I speak of subscriptions subscriptions there Mr Green. I won't let everybody knows the way. Let everybody know that you helped us reach a milestone here. We you were asking you to help us reach some goals. Some sub goals and we reached one. I'm already fifteen hundred subs. Wow allows all right. We are up to get hyped. We were asking for fifteen hundred four small stretch goal and right now we add one thousand seven hundred eighteen. Why aren't you say that now? I believe on Sunday. We're going to do in addition to the stream that we already have the Sunday service. Now we owe you some gain plays Marin owes us some cup head you gotTa know par to Cup partout. He's got he's got to fight an onion Chris GonNa play his arch nemesis. Sonic and I don't know what I'm GonNa do but if you guys want me to do I'll play it and try to be as entertaining as possible. We have that other goal. Five thousand seven out you know. That's that's a fun goal right there. We don't know if we're really not but hey I didn't know we get to seventeen hundred. This quick never known it happened but who do research by thousand twelve hours away you Nasional in Austria Mall night in one day I was in here for eight hours. What's the Mu four hours after that? Nothing not to get that thousand subscriptions. I will be there with you for the twelve hours my friend. Oh I will I will pay for your ticket to get over here and we will have a good old time. We'll turn on each other by our four four but our half but yeah yeah people you know. Legend has it that one core Coleman didn't an actual twenty four hour stream longtime ago. So what is twelve. Caterers Taylor wrote nothing. Nothing at the legend is true. I heard he went so crazy that he saved his head. Yes he did all. It's so crazy hurting so go crazy. Almost snorted a condom at the Maybe he'll do at this time. Kerma Armageddon Hyping Committee screen they like. I can't Undo Cup in L. That's when you heard the news. What Yeah folks and Dan? Well we need to reach is twenty five hundred subscribers by the end of May looks like. He's actually gone way. I'm getting what competent about it now. that'll brings us to where we were before we left our site to come over to twitch and if we reset twenty five hundred subscribers viewing party of space jam. Hopefully it will be the coleman cut you know trending very highly right now on all platforms as Hashtag released coleman cut of space jam. And we'll see we can do. We're we'll have to break into one of the studios James Bond Style still print. We will do it but we will watch some version of space jam and then we'll have a review for you of that to coma. Cut Looking at your circumcision of something it is. They've worked on this movie for five years and when they took it away from me it was like taking a piece of me so yes as movie is my circumcision Metaphor speaking. This is come watch. Circumcision jam seven years. Worked on this movie castration. My man they took my manhood. This movie right here. Let's see we can get it back. Let's let's see we can reattach the penis notice space reattached. The Coleman cut the Kobe Hashtag that that right there. So yeah folks can be. It's GonNa be it's GonNa Be Guitar. There goes watch marveling cuffy. Yeah Man I'll tell you what it is fun watching Martin Play Cup to allow loses hotel. He He's played. He's like man. Yeah but that was over there. I was looking over here watching him play because he's explaining what happened. I'm trying to do this as Marta. We know me. They gave Chase Carey's now Mitch Funds Fun watching him. They really got got a live show in New York coming up in. May It's going to be at the end of May probably beginning of June. But as I say we got agents in sponsors working on that so soon as we find something out that we will let you know but they did say we are doing this so it was like are they handling venue and all of that. Aw Yeah and handling the venue handling the ticket sales saw yeah man gotta sit back and just concentrate on the shoe they show up this show up just right do show up and do what we do and last last thing I have two nouns for you well a couple of things one being Landau the platelets live. There's going to be at the end of this month but we are also going to be. Well I'm going to be an la back on that would be March six and You know I've been talking about this for Wab and looking forward to this. I'm going to be there. I'm going to be there. Let me see here. Let me see hold on your heels. You go the law. She's just to hype around here. Let me suffer got tight for you. I won't let you guys know. Oh there it is there it is right right. They're here. We go people in L. A.. March six I will be there for the love of would love love so good traveling across the country to get it going to be there for that. Michael Jackson play the story. Mike Jackson has told by the glove which happens happened around the KNOB. Also a saw everything I can tell you about it and we got a group together. We sold our tickets to go. See that so we're all gonna be sitting together but if you WANNA and get a ticket and I mean you're not guaranteed to be sitting when a group but we're GONNA get ticket and join us you can and we'll be having some kind of after party we'll be figuring that out trying to figure out a bar to go to hang hang out with people so yeah yeah man Yes yes yes indeed lot a lot of things happening around here double toasted. Don't slow down man so with that said tell you what we're GONNA do Want to get into this story that I was talking about. You know before I do that. Tell you what we're GonNa take a quick break because I don't Wanna I have to interrupt man plus I wanna get some reactions from the ladies in here ladies and the gentlemen that we have in here you know you're talking about a relationship thing here who better talk about relationships than Cazenove Frankenstein hoping to use the Mr Frankenstein to come up and talk about his latest book and of course all of that would be followed by the foolishness so we got a lot to do you. Let's go ahead and take a quick break and we'll be right back after this. Oh I can't wait to talk about this this this this this this question store that you hear Christian Yeah I. It was interesting. Say to lease in a magazine the type of way about it right all right all right. It's a relationship question people and I'm going to escort because I know a KOI would do do probably the worst thing thing so we'll see. I'm glad she's back up before you come back in. I love some water on the couch. Job there can you bring back our. Give me a freshman appreciate it. Miss Breezy Albert rid. Mrs Alfred. Thank you ma'am. Oh my God I appreciate it. Oh just the way I like it not too cold on the teeth. Come back from commercial and welcome back. Everybody I'm just sitting up your drink as a wild wild refresh so we can talk about this story. There's going to be followed by question for you guys for Mr is green and Um Back let's see here. You can have this later. She likes to chew on plastic stuff she sees as the top of my water. And she's getting a little hyper so anna how doorly she looks at me and what you got you got food. Yeah baby POPs baby are right is going to do. Let's talk about. Let's talk about this thing that is got going on is what happened to you today. All right so I've got a friend of mine who's asking how to weekend Kim was going. He said Oh man it was some bullshit. Oh let me settling settling. What's going on with your brother? Apparently only he has been going out with his girlfriend. I guess for the past two years he was saying and things ended mutually whatever the hell that means they were amicable about the break up. You know you know. He was doing one thing she was doing something now so it was infidelity involved is that they were going separate ways and I think he wanted. I wanted to go down to pat the kids and babies. She didn't and they were like you know what is probably working out. I just stop and now wasting more of our time split ways. I'm well okay. I'll see anything wrong with this. What's going on? He's like well you know. We would still kind of in context to the for the past two weeks but now we started week. I'm seeing her is that she's gone out with some dude eating Raviolis shit the robbings do you know. Yeah but what are you doing raviolis delicious. What's the problem you know? He's like no. At least she could respect me. She could have waited at least two months before going out with somebody and I'm like damn it said timeframe after you break it with somebody is. Is there a unwritten rule. That says you have to wait X.. Amount of days before you start dating now. I guess that was the question I was trying to pose. You know now granted. We don't know what it was was a toxic was things of that nature but what is going on the assumption that things are eligible between the people that ought not to get any more said Dan Yussef boy audience so so I guess the question is what is the time limit. You wait to start dating after a break you know is a tool the three days a week three months or is there no time limit. I believe two three minutes as you're breaking up you're trying to grab some some ads right after. Okay I know we WANNA ask them people at in. I don't want to bring the ladies and gentlemen appear and answer some answer this it will actually put the poll up with the chat to so to reiterate. toasties are there is told this story about a break-up People seem nothing bad ed but going to separate ways guys upset because he looks online and that his girls already dating after a few weeks and it upsets him. My whole thing on that is that yeah. You know it's going to hurt. Somebody's feelings that they see you dating. Because you know there's GonNa feel like well I guess what we had wasn't that deep It's it is definitely a blow to the EGO and and and understand having the hurt feelings behind it but if you have broken up and it's a definite thing then that's it. I mean you were not if you owe anybody or anything. That's just me. I know I know not really hurt if you see somebody like just dating minutes late after you're done but once you're done and then there's no you're you're not going back then you don't you're not a debtor to anyone that's you. You have your separate life now. They have this separate life. That's another thing too. I think one person gets upset because they're oh not thinking like well you know maybe one day I think they think this is like a movie like a romantic fictional story L.. Will you know maybe right now. We're taking a break but one day we'll have our happy ending when she wants. She gets so freedom. She'll know that I was the one I got. Let's get a freedom once you know. Now I get what you're saying same way I could see the other end of it just affected especially if it came of amicably. You you and this person has some sort of relationship so sort of bond right. The things were going in a certain direction before the split. And Yeah you know you guys are apart but you know you still care for this person. So you're you're not obligated to do anything at anytime but I think as you know as a person and you guys are still talking. I think it should be a case. Where AH compensation should should take place and listen we are done and I think I'm going to stop moving on and I'm going to stop putting myself out there? So are you old that no but because there was some type of relationship in history with you too I think is worth the conversation. Let the the personnel about to pull the trigger. You know and go get busy I I get it I agree. I know I'm the same way I understand. Hurt feelings like I said but Complicated I mean all this person knows like I can talk to this. She might be saying I can talk to this guy but always going to do is like a AH crying we start getting emotional or are you going to try to like asthma come back you know. It's not easy to go and tell that person those kind of things I especially if you're still friends but on my vice is not for the girl saying hey you need to go talk to this guy and let him know my vice guy suck it up and go out there and and you know there's other checks out there man go out to be a player. Oh bonds big man. The as I thought you there is no time limit. No no no no I go out there and start fucking fat soon as you hang up pick up downing okay. I've had. I'll tell you what I say. Hey this because yes I would probably just quickly move on but I I've I've had that situation where I've broken up with somebody and I had we'd been friends and everything and then it got weird because you know she started seeing somebody and I didn't. I didn't know I ask but you know it was. I think it was uncomfortable for both of us. I can see why not. Don't don't talk about it. In fact I mean walking walking one night and I had to like set strict. They'll walk by myself and she was walking with some friends of hers. His guy trying to be a fucking hero and shit stepped up to me and he was like I e the same thing like you know keep walking all all stall him in and how how you doing man what's going on you know you do. What else like motherfucker bitch? You thank soda like I'm cool man. I don't don't don't don't do those men salt into both of us. Don't do this as a IAGO have a good time. We'll go my way in y'all go yours and see what I'm saying you know. Let's just kind of we talk to people about this guy bothering you. Yeah that kind of thing. uh-huh handle this. Get jobs away from me. I'm I see her and I'm not even stopping. Say Anything I'm going about my way man. In fact I'm going. I went to see. I'm going to try to meet somebody right now. I always had myself. But you know I can bring the girls up but I can bring the GOP. Alfredo you WANNA come up a chicken cat damn you gotta give me some time cazenove. Frankenstein came back you can you. Can you give us your if you are. You are a sexy monster yourself. You know you come on up sitting his seat right here ladies you can come sit over here and I wouldn't I wouldn't mind and then we'll we'll get we'll get a Some advice from the chat from you guys take a poll cast now. Would you want to put the poll up now. Are we talking everybody we can we can. That's a good idea. Let me go over here. Let me Could you move a little bit this way casting over there you go. Mike is Right thing on. Put Them Mike Right in front of you. There US perfect perfect perfect as you can see very handsome. The shot right now. Yeah right there. Now pull the MIC to you. Know I know the perfect perfect perfect perfect people eh. Yeah mark the spot as you can see a man over here very handsome guys across between Kravis and Frankenstein right. I post over there. The Japanese anime post. Yeah why do why does that make you look like me. Do you WANNA gravity. Nobody wants so people. If you don't know cazenove Frankenstein used to go by Al Franken. Al Franken is some the most amazing stories. Oh yeah that is kind of like you man without all the sexy locks right. They're not all the sex luck. The Tattoo stitches. Let me be more a little bit again. Just look the other way other you go there you go. That's good. That is good ginny. She did this right here. Yeah it's very nice. I'll you know what I always wanted. I wonder why wasn't looked. Like Bento of Martin Stott fucking mayonnaise research uh-huh because she just some great our work right here but it looks like I'm ready for you Marjoram. That's that's how she sees you guys Ah subliminal rate there we're going to be talking to Mr Cazenove about his book and a little bit but for right now we got these On here to talk here all this view we got the Tasha as we know them around here chicken Brie. I'm great. Natasha would be chicken. If you didn't always you'll always be. She can be so you guys heard what was going on with this the good that we have a variety of guest tonight we have a male and some females. The whole question is is there. Is there a certain time that you should take sake before you start dating. Someone is this is that is that is that is that the polite break-up etiquette is respectful to is respectful. To like like maybe a month or two before you start dating someone two weeks to months or is there no time limit ladies first of course I mean put their except let's see I don't see a time limit you don't see so in other words I wanNA start dating the next day. You can do that. I guess I mean will they left. They separated on mutual terms. It sounds like so so. If it was an ugly break-up I would assume that it would kind of be the same thing. Yeah Yeah what about you look like you may have a different opinion than attention I agree I just think for his sanity. Maybe you should follow her on social media setting yourself up for failure. That's that's your own fault okay. cazenove Ma Ma Sir I I WANNA shout out to my fan Mr Glenn Pierce. He lives in Australia. He's an excellent is an insane illustrator. He should be famous but he's not The Glenn High gave me do an Australian. I don't know what that was. I just got sixty Frankenstein Frankenstein. What happened we're going to? We're going to talk with you tonight. I Don was better a little bit. Better opinion okay. Here's my opinion if you if it if it bothers you then you haven't broken up with her that's one thing Come to your your That might be one of the problems. That led to their break-up is he's trying trying to get her to live. According to these rules this movie that he has played out in his head already and when she's not following the that he has set up for in his mind then it upsets him and he's got upset her so you know that he's just not my cup a little bit more he. He's just not rude. He's just not over her yet. Yeah as as far as how long the thing is is that most people don't when you break up with somebody. That's the time that you have to get to Understand yourself you can understand yourself then you can deal with another person but if you're like waiting until the hurt goes away you're not learning anything you're just going to go back and do the same thing she did before. Yeah yeah that's what. I was kind of saying man You know they're they're still attached this person so it has nothing to do about etiquette is like I. I don't WanNa you know I still have feelings. I don't WanNa be hurt. I WANNA go back whatever all that all that stuff. That's high school stuff. Yeah Yeah Yeah no you know. Put up the the poll now for you guys. Should there be a time limit before dating. After break-up simple yes or no is what we have right there you guys can go in there and vote on that right now and everybody was one hell no one person say yes. Oh okay. There's one person one sensitive person but yeah there's a lot of people feel the same way a lot of people near talking about. No no no the Hell No. You can't be responsible somebody else's feelings either death. That's what I was thinking too. I mean I understand somebody being hurt but you cannot be. You're gone if you're moving on with your life. Yeah I have a question. Did she posts a picture of her with the guy. Did he clarify. I know it was a picture with Harem. You know that whole you know. Look at US eating together type thing. Yeah that could hurt attack yes. I saw this profile. Hey Joe Hey listen drove automatic. I gotta get mad at me because his son saw something that was posted on my wall. His the sons are something on facebook. He led his his look at my. Why are you letting your son Look at my page if you know what that has nothing to do with me? I'm not gonNA to stop what I post because three year old is. I think that's another thing that's so social media has a lot to do with this we are more privy to people's lives more than ever before everybody's putting lives out there. That'd be a time when you break up with somebody in golf and start dating immediately and everybody be fine because no one knew there and you know the better unless you ran into him out in public now you can stock somebody's profile and you know you see everything so I I I don't know man and that's why I tell you. Listen to your feelings. A hurdle understandable and get the fuck man because they go change just just block them but the person's going to find out about them you know they really want to. They will go off. They'll they'll make fake profiles are they'll follow they'll ask is setting themselves up to hurt me debated I did yeah. I think that's where you go. If you WANNA find out about somebody you will if you really wanted to. That's up to you. Let that Shit Go. You know what I'm saying. Yeah no I hear all sides of the story and Steffi case where you can't control like with all six Johnson that you can't control what they go feel you at some point you gotta get over it you know and whether you rip the banning off now or later it's still going to hurt so you might as well you know man up a woman up or anything between up and walk. What do it you got it here is? My is my famous last very simple words. Tell people this all the time. Stay the fuck doc off facebook. Say It all the time people see so much shit that they don't WanNa see going onto facebook and he just volunteer volunteer themselves for misery. I tell you man like a Voodoo doll. It's like everybody's putting their bad vibes out in one place and it just keeps bouncing back and forth. That's facebook is no good for anything except to exercise your demons. But don't hang on just you know you. Yeah Man. That's great. We're putting it. I mean I think all this stuff can be used for some good. I catch up with friends all the time. UH-HUH I get I get all kinds of information we paid from it so you can kind of make a living from it but you know there's a balance to this man if you put yourself in misery you as you. I see. People get started arguments all the time in fighting about shit. They don't even have to fight about so easy to walk away. Somebody can even see you his we tell them straight Obama. Ah Fuck you but we're online. We're like who you ain't going with this you know it's it's crazy the mentality behind this. I read appreciate Shit. The feedback from you guys though you going to. What did you say to him? Oh left that clown about the Raviolis. He's a good buddy of mine was like man. Don't do this to yourself. Man You guys. I told him I said you guys broke up. You know and you have to move moment. She clearly has so. You know this whole time. Limit thing. It'd be it would have been nicer to say you know I'm done on here for real. I'm starting to move on and you know again like you know. I think. He thought that he just give up some time. She'll come back to me type thing you know what I mean. And that was his thing I think in his head but I told my man is done now. You know she's on December favor. Delete this thing that you're looking at now and you know who you say you disagree with this one point net one point is you're trying to spare somebody else's feelings what you're doing is you're just just hold in the relationship you just hold in pain between the two of you. You're not letting go and the more you give like that. Oh well I'm GonNa do you this in her feelings or feeling you. You're not helping anybody's feelings. You're just holding onto hurt between two. You're just old and onto the remnants of that bad relationship. Yeah that's that's a great point man. That is a great point and I know about band relationship believing man this man he speaks. He's from authorities. If you could please come if you can't come back tomorrow because we we told everybody about the story the the airport story intrigue you guys had to listen tomorrow. I'm going to make it a bit out of this. This man is Eh cazenove Frankenstein. Formerly of Al Frank. He is one of the most masterful storyteller ever uh witnessed a pledge of sitting around and listening to man we did a whole. We did a whole two hours one day where we just sat on Martin down on a couch and just listen to you and Thomas Fuck. It's amazing it's amazing. So yeah people you have to be here tomorrow man. I want to. We have a special guest tomorrow tonight off. So we have a special guest. Kaslo Frankenstein formerly Al Frank. He'll be back to talk about all of his stories tomorrow. That some some of them. You've heard already maybe have some new ones but I WANNA go through. At least one of the greatest hits gotta go back to the it to the Frankenstein volt. Yeah brilliant man is that he's a brilliant artist and he's a brilliant storyteller i. I'm not saying this to be nice. I mean it man shocks please. We're GONNA start dating after care. Yeah people tell you what we're going to. We're going to go to a quick commercial break and then we'll be back when we're talking to Castle Frankenstein. God is book right here and we'll also begin. We'll begin to what is it that we're GONNA get into man. Oh I'm smelling it now. Now Manda Foolish now. It's cooking man. You smell good. Oh good man. I can't wait. I use the freshest ingredients with this bullshit tonight so let's go ahead uh-huh commercial and we'll be right back after this. I gotTa say you're GonNa give me some time. I I WANNA say al but I'm on I'm going to get us to Casanovas Gasanova. Nobody Frankenstein Castle. Nobody nobody Frankenstein had no. This isn't official change. The official name is cazenove. Nobody freighter star. Yes get at the third they put. They put the third on my driver's license. So can I say driver's license. Do you have Casanovas. Nobody Frankenstein on so nobody. Nobody Franken got the nobody from Dad. Man The comic characters not Johnny Depp. Movie yeah the go aww character. Oh Nice Man Yeah folks my man here. He's a he's quite a character as you can see. That's mall. That's so he's showing me right now driver's license. Let me see this right here. Welcome back everybody so so I was just informed. The SCHICK is deeper. I was just informed. Go Long not only He not only is no longer Al Franken only he is now castle of Frankenstein. But if you WANNA his full name wouldn't get proper about it is casting over nobody Frankenstein. And he has it right here on his driver's license. Look at because this official do that like you. Just walk in. Please change it so you go you you go to the There's different rules in different states. But here you could fill out some paperwork. Can you before a judge and you know unless it's something filthy I guess he he'll agree to it. Yeah so you you know. That's the land of the free free to change in ebbing. I figured that when you have when you're born your parents give you a name. Did they expect what they're expecting out of you. And and so you're you're gonNA live up to that name but I learned early on it I wasn't that person that they thought that I was going to be so. I had to give get myself a name that I I think I was in a theater. We saw mystery men together. Didn't we yes yes we do. You remember when I stood up in the theater when he said cazenove the Frankenstein. The first time I stood up and I was shocked for a second. There looked to in a set. You I don't I don't remember any of this maybe with Martin and I'm like I'm not my air liquide bullshit I remember none of. Yeah the only good thing about that movie. Oh so that is that we came from Castle Frankenstein. Nice Nice what is it about. Let let me see biking find it. What is it about this character? Castle of Frankenstein and influenced you to changes. His characters to name is just a name the name think about got it. Think about it. You know of that's poetry. That is that is to do -ality of man right there in one name casts Inova and Frankenstein if you break it down. CAST INOVA is is a lover but he's also the guy that's Making women on their husband. Wait a minute hold on hold on so I look up Casanova Frankenstein. And they had a character from mystery man all in nearby. Goddamn it right there in the middle. Who is at the original you papa twisted man so you are truly cast on the day that there is no more Geoffrey rush picture in there? It's just me you can push him completely completely out awfully wonder. Oh yeah but mckesson over its got. It's alright Casanovas. Supposed to be love her. That's positive thing but actually he's not that he's kind of a bad guy because he's like you know breaking up marriages Frankenstein. You think about Princeton you thinking about the monster not not not the doctor right right but it's like a Picasso. Painting of Picasso is a Cossio so Frankenstein's monster is Frankenstein. So but Frankenstein got a bad rap. He was he was the hideous monster everybody but he was he was he was he was a beautiful sold. It was driven through paying because because people hurt him so much to be violent. So do you feel like you relate to our break assads muster light that because because of the things how how like you know. There's two sides the F. to the nature of every person and you have to get the notice two sides. That's deep mad that I didn't think I'd expect so what's in a name. Every God Damn Shit. I wouldn't be so you wait deeper than me. I just WANNA be lying. He May. I can't wait until hey call me. Denzel Cool uh-huh. Oh you know what now that we got you here. Mrs Franken seen before you. You know my father's Castano say Frankenstein. Castle building remember this people cast the Nova the cats no Franken kid got you got you got you got a checkup Frankenstein. It's not a Nabet been friends. See much tougher you it was. Oh you know what that's what eighties that was terrible. Great Psalm the how can you say that the disrespect the late. Great Jerrell avert right. Then you take it back take it back I know I know he's happy. Your full all of anger and bitterness. Let's talk about your book real quick. Okay so here's here's the here's the thing. I should apologize to you a lot of people they ask. The origin story is you can attest to. This is a lot of people. Ask The origin story of of Corey. Martin how how did this dynamic dual get started. Have you guys been together doing all this stuff all these years and we always tell people we hear often at the time. I was a college student. I think he was out of college already but we hung around the same cartoonist. is where after it was amazing. The number of people that were were were car took is here yet. The went on to like be like big names like Robert Rodriguez was his name is Chicago. ugh Oh yeah Chris Ware Walt Holcombe Walking. They're working on things like Simpson's and things like that Yeah Tonkinese Simpson's the comic books comics. Yeah Yeah we're man. We worked with some amazing people so and here we are in here. We are doing little podcast. Change on me. No yeah no but you know people like the way we manage other because the thing with all these cartoon says that they were all except Rodriguez. They were all white are maybe some the business people in there but mark with only two black guys in the group but this is where I have to say. I'm sorry to you because there was also a third black black man with the net group in his name. CAZENOVE cazenove Frank Open. Nobody Frankenstein. Frame begged them. Did you ever hear the elevator story story just COMECON. We went to in ninety two in Dallas. What happened Sir? Okay okay. Shannon Wheeler reminded me. I've forgotten Shannon Wheeler who works for the New Yorker worker. Yeah we used to hang out at his house all right. I was at the convinced we were at the statue of limitations is up ninety two. We're we're you're on the roof. We're all guests. Well you know I was a guest. In Shannon was we're all on the roof Just hanging out is a pool at the Omni Omni Hotel and I'm just I'm looking skies beautiful blue clouds puffy to the blowing and you know and you're on the roof and it's like you're not seeing anything but sky and so. How many drugs did you? Actually I wasn't I wasn't into like that stuff really back. Did you know but Yeah I was just chilling out her member. I said it's such a nice day. Nice Day and Gary Groth was sitting in a lawn chair with some people whose Gary Gary Fan Graphics the publisher never knew okay he was sitting across from them. from me on the other side of the pool and he heard me say that and he says what are you so happy about and I said well no. It's just a really Nice Day is beautiful awful out here you know the wind and like I mean the the clouds is stuff he said. How'd you book Sell About Two Thousand Twenty five hundred copies and he is it? If I heard that I'd be depressed. So that was when I I was sitting there thinking okay now brought a gun. What is this escalator real quick and I was thinking so I went like I was just mad I got up and insane? Anything walked out. I went back down to the room looked at my luggage as like And I did. This thing is with the elevator story. Part comes in I went I went up a backup to the roof and I wait to see how long it took for the elevator doors close and then I like I pushed the exit and walked out in a roof and I was waiting for these people and everybody to come. Because we'RE GONNA go party somewhere else and so we got on the Elevator was me Shannon Wheeler. WAS THERE EAR Roy. Tompkins was there. Think Robert Chrome was there Robert Crumlin cartoons. Yeah trauman alien in and Gary Gary Growth The guy that told you yeah yeah well. He's my publisher. Now that's the thing so but but anyway so Elevator to go down and they were getting off on floor number two and and I was on floor number four and so when floor number four opened a new how long he was gonNA take for the elevator door to close so I like walked out and turned around and I looked all in Essiet. You're all GonNa die and then the doors close and I I've forgotten all about it through Hopkins tells me that they were like a nail to they put a bomb in their way. You know they said you know so. I didn't actually. That's that's the reason that I had probably although shitty jobs I'd never I never submitted anything. Fan Graphics because of that uh-huh well because you know because he said that to me because he said that to me and you know I I thought that was all fucked up so you know I see you know so so instead of submitting anything to like the number one underground publisher and getting on that bandwagon with Dan Clouds. And all the damn what the other route now. Telemarketing and put Nissan's together staff chasing dogs and stuff like that man you know I like the way. Oh you you. You preface tell these people they're going to die with you know I have my gun with me at any point. Did you think I'm GONNA come come back and shoot all these motherfuckers. It flashed in my head coach. This this is this is a people. Is the thing about cazenove Frankenstein. Back in the day being. I'm not going to let two people were scared of you man. We scared scared. I was scared I was. I was out man I was like just like things were so upsetting to me. The whole world was just so upsetting And I couldn't find a job I was. I don't know if y'all you were at part of that. Group did came by the House that I was living in the last I house before the runway of I thirty five and you could actually like look up and see people's faces I swear to God you look up from my lawn and see people's faces through the airplane windows is coming down and and But that house it was like fully like these these vermin and have it. was you know mice and fleas and mosquitoes everywhere and we had these three dogs and two dogs. Won't WHOA TRY TO KILL each other. Every time they saw each other so it was like this chess game where you had to like push one dog here. Okay you know bring them bring them back over here bring them in you. Get them over their dark clothes. Okay I'm going to let so it was like that all the time. So that was you know I didn't have a job or looking for a job. You know I got a little money. Any was acting a little bit a little get a little money from the comic. You're yeah you're miserable person not enough saying in a derogatory. I'm just saying you we're always you always upset. You always angry. It was it was scared the shit out of people man. I'd like I remember. Sometimes I oh I didn't mean to. I didn't I didn't understand that that was happening. You know I just I was just in my own head you know but because I remember one time that this is scared gotten this is not this is a ninety homo bringing it was I don't know what was going on. You were seeing some girl I think are. y'All were friends friends or something and I saw you at a Weta. A Denny's and I saw you with this girl and I don't know it. Did you give this girl number because this girl start calling me. I'm like you just I just saw you and Al Franken. I don't believe I do not want to Piss off Al Frank to start that she was given. I thought that you know here. She likes you. She said she thought you accused here number. Because I I was like I don't I don't know how this happened on a and went on. I said I'm not gonNA Piss you off. Well here's the thing is is like I was never like homicide lowers more suicidal. You know but the thing about not being suicidal like that is that you don't if you're mad at people you know you're like well fuck what happens to me. You know so but I kept. I kept it under wraps and stuff you know in the comic book that was that was and now people say when you come books are so fucked up you know you. Oh you're so brave for admitting the stuff that you thinking well therapy Combo therapy for me. Just been therapy for me. Your comics have been. I always love your comics man speaking which he does the sort of vital autobiographical they are autobiographical is not actually. This is not one. That's not you wanna tell us about this when I will let me just before moving further you you will reveal everything man. I remember reading stories about your Tom. Looney Chicago and at least go about the stores. Mistreated by people lied to by people. COPS fucking with you. But that's everybody gets everybody. Everybody has that happened to him but they don't talk about their but you put it down. I put it down because I want people to be gable identify when people will be able to say you know. Wow you know that happened to him. He like get past. I can get you know something really bad happened this person. Maybe this would happen to me. It's not not as terrible as I think it is. Yeah Yeah Yeah well speaking of You work now. This one is not on a biographical but Tad Martin Dan Martin Number C San Martin is is is is the characterize speak through now he started out and he is biracial but see I don't tell people that I it was mentioned in the on the mini comics. When I I was in those out but I would hint at it in these books but see thing is even now you know the average comic book buyers like this White Male? That doesn't WanNa hear about like black stuff you know unless it's something cool black stuff you don't hear about the miserable black stuff he wants to hear about the Oh man. That's cool man. He did that you know. He's wearing this stuff that's cool. You know we I wanna hear about like you know man. I had to like I had to like take a bus. You know fifteen miles to get to a job that was paying me three twenty five now. You know you don't want to hear about that stuff you know but anyway Dallas train. Well we're talking about Ted March coming over the Internet. Look it up yeah But yeah so what I did was an atheist character so I could like talk about What I hated about white I people and Black people through this character you know and and do it and it's like now I get my Dna thing read you know? It's forty percent European stocks so his British forty percent mostly British Irish. Okay so that means whenever on facebook somebody says in response to me like calling out racism pointing out something. They'll say well you know that's just you're just being racist against white people you know. That's anti white white racism and I'll say but wait a minute my DNA says that. I'm forty percent white checkmate so I can get the blow shit about just talk about. This is not right I could be racist to myself. I got this. Yeah but that's the thing but eh this particular issue all right. The one before that came came came out in twenty fifteen and I hadn't drawn an issue of Tad Martin in twenty three years and I think it was around nineteen. I'm sorry two thousand five. I started getting these messages on on a social media from people in other countries that like remember Tad Martin and they were like sending me letters about this. Help me help me get through this and that and you know so and I I don't make any money and I'm like here in this miserable situation but you know that and so that like made me think. Well maybe I should like get back into doing this. Nice united so I ran into This publishers name was Dylan Williams. He was really famous than the underground comics Independent Publishing Seaney. He passed away shortly after he hooked me up. With this guy named Dylan Williams uh-huh did was start publishing my stuff but Tad Martin six was the story of my second marriage. I'll bring that tomorrow. Yes retail yeah. See I drawn everything. All the comics to that drew between Nineteen ninety-six and probably twenty sixteen were all drawn. Skin notebooks or like some kind of spiral bound notebook and most of them were drawn freehand and in ballpoint pen. Because I was doing them at work. You know whatever job I would have. I would like it like maybe one the two minutes like Motorola you would have like a process that would go on your takeaway. Waivers they're like what they call the Of them they make chips on like a big wafer of of where material it is but you know they they make a bunch of them at the same time. And so you're you're processing these things and it tests like certain time limit and so what I was doing this doing this job. Subduing this thing. I'm like figuring out how what I'm going to draw with lines going to be and then when I put the waivers this and the acid bath the turnaround go here to draw the panel. Also you find a way to work in balanced rang a way you know because you never know when you're going to die so so you know I figure I'm GonNa get this stuff out. You know if if I if I die next week. This is finished. You know so. uh-huh began so I've done all those in mole skin notebooks and I retired from work At ut not in twenty sixteen. I was kind of forcibly retired from from work Expired then we suggest would be happier at some other some drug policy thing but There's another story but I'll tell you what a since you come back tomorrow. Why don't we continue with so many stories? I want to tell people where they can find that you can find us at the the website. I'm I'm blanking on the website. If you just Google Tad Martin Domino Domino books to Donald Books all right and employs graphics putting out Ted Martin Number Eight in May Nice. Yeah congratulations man. Being prepared appeared in everything that is the first comic book that Ad Actually drawn as a proper comic book on Boards and stuff in twenty three years. That's why it was important. Portent that I to show myself that I could still do it because I haven't been kind of condition to draw under pressure while I'm doing something else else so when you have freedom in this not happening it gets weird because you're not at the end of Shawshank where what's his name hung himself because he couldn't deal Jio without side. That's exactly same thing. I was so used to like having all his shit happening. And then I'm like doing this nice way man. I'm glad that you are still having experiences. I mean he ran. Do good work. I don't WANNA I don't WanNa wish misery bad things you view but it does produce some great stores appreciate it man. Thank you thank you. Yeah we're gonNA take a break. Come back and get onto an a chat Chad you guys. They're talking about man you know. They're really love stories. And everything they say gas fascinating freak. This guy's fascinating definitely getting getting. Oh you got. Some custom is definitely getting his stuff this week. Wow then bathroom can lose seventy eight so yeah man somebody Archa Archa. DOUBLE-O says I have no idea who anybody is but this is compelling to sail her. So yeah folks. I tell you what I tell you who. I'm Korva Coleman. I'm joined by chicken. Embryo have green the man himself. And we have a special guests over here. CAZENOVE Frankenstein castle with nobody Frankenstein. If you WANNA know his full name. Formerly Al Frank Frank Known as guy for years we each other every now and then there's never been a dull moment with this man never never has been so you like what you're hearing tonight then come back tomorrow for the weekly Rose until so he'll be bringing some stories tomorrow to tell us some some Some stories show very hurt but apparently some I have not it. So we'll do that but right now. Let's go ahead and take a quick commercial break and we will be right back with the foolishness looseness right after. This doubt. Also Chad if you have any questions for Mr Frank over here it's a chest loving you man the right now like Oh man. This guy's tests dope is el Ha. Yeah Yeah the love and it man you know you can just go to Amazon. Was On and look up Castano Frankenstein comics and it'll be a bunch of stuff. Somebody said that somebody said that they can be found Amazon. So yeah yeah man. Somebody's that Marshall is going to be lit tomorrow think what's going to happen is we're GONNA do a review. You guys vote on this. I've got to tell you we had a vote for the bad movie tomorrow tomorrow. We're going to be reviewing steal the Shaquille O'Neal movie and then right after. Thank God they percents Shit we gonna be talking about steel. That's the bad movie review. I'm going to do for you and then we're going to be talking to Alfred. Please come back tomorrow if you like what you see right now Oh Shit still walking back everybody so everybody can sit where the a I think now is GonNa take over the show but everybody can still sit where the guys might turn. We'll call him. But you know you guys go ahead and just be comfortable. I WANNA push the way you know. We've already gotten us is to you guys over here. And he's contemplating murder and everybody is always always a good time with this man over here. I tell you never never never ever ever Let me see CASSAR. Nobody nobody Frankenstein. Casanovas nobody Frankenstein gotta see a signature man right that senior the story going on Youtube Story Oak streaming video. Three minute video. Look it up. Look it up since she's sucking on You Messenger. Sure okay. I'll see. What is it like some work? You know it's a two minute. Music video put together gather while I was working at ut. When I should have been working but it's like Can lose these jobs. You've never worked really hard but what I do okay but it was. It's a is it's a figure skater. she's Gymnast and over that Pussy poppins plan. It stinks it syncs up accidentally. Okay well our they prepare for tomorrow. Oh my God yeah. I have worked quite there because I listened to his six Frankenstein over here about ready. Yes and nobody nobody Frankenstein up in the house right now comes behind. NBC Man. All right let me move you overhear movie over here. Is You all right. Let's go ahead and get into the foolishness here tonight. I tell you that the foolishness is made with the fresh. The freshest ingredients this evening and I wanNA see when you're first bite if you can taste this right here Let me go and tell you guys though that there are a lot of dangerous occupations out there I think castle of Frankenstein had half of those are not tattoos those scars on his face but there are a lot of lot of dangerous jobs out there. You have policemen firemen. You Have Lion Tamers. I guess S. guys. I don't know if they still have those today. Animal rights being what it is live. Video Streamer is dangerous. You never know when you walkout this room sexy Frankenstein and just see. The Penis pointed straight ahead. You don't just want his immune mega man walking through you. The other day I could walk out and lost. The is that Pena's poking how so could've stab you right in the heart right. I saw that I was like thin. Corey don't rush up on those didn't brush up behind him his scam. That's crazy when the policemen are more dangerous and the naked man but but also I mean I think being La Video. uh-huh streamers more dangerous than a day. You saw that right there. Naked people aren't endangers walking the hallways. Why can't even go out shopping alone without somebody the following me for the film you come here when you feel me six? No no no you you you see you see here that harassed by pokemon trainer the catch me. You put me in your pocket ball. Make me fight the bigger legs city. Big Boy he's catching black man and make it a mandate uh-huh yeah people it is it is it is very hazardous occupation that I have here but now now you could add to the list something that people took for granted that they're adding to in this. I want you to realize just in case you decide to go this route one day but but I want you to think about this another dangerous job stripping. Now you see this now you see this every year every year that that ever you the pole is getting longer all stage one stage. You have to look out for if you look at this here that that pole is getting longer and high year every year. Which means that you got to be careful apple because they're starting to be more distance between the ground and that strip away up there in one to sprint in pajamas and know that police go up to heaven looking but but one nine one false move one wrong move and it could be over already? Oh that's what did Jesus look at these people. You probably missed. It happened so fast. Look at how this girl gets slammed on the ground. It feels why can still. She's still fashionable. Doc should know she's still going going going going going tyler. Perry got nothing on his girls worth worked at the great here she was going and going and that is the woman who is dedicated to her job. Talk about breaking a leg when you get out in. Wait a minute you you know you have to. You have to play at all. Because he's never work again. If if you like that that was that was crazy. Gravity got a lap. Dance that day and did you hear that woman. I like the way there's more women than clubbing dude. It's not like black women at Church right. Don't do that. I have a whole new level at his girl right. That is a professional straight dollars into. That surgery has come in next year. She bounced to she should did she was. GTE Rag. Shit that happened she a still got back up and hey listen we laugh him but that woman is a professional. That's dedication when you fall fucking two stories hit the ground you still working. I would never consider doing this. Here's the losers I would object if I was a woman. Walk in there and see that right there and I'm not going up there. That is crazy. This is not this is strip anymore. This acrobatics Goddamn Cirque du Soleil right here American Gladiator Mattie Eva Neutral. Gloria chill asked outdo each other. That's the thing is like because you know once you get like the routine this really good you make more money and the Nasdaq is like wrestling. Do Outdo do the other well. I'll tell you what she won. That night kid pitchy. She'd say you you know what as far as outdoor and everybody has I mean looking at this bitch is going to be parachutes when you start stripping it you know you when you have time to scramble up in a quick. Turn the fucking wiggle before. She went to the lakes aches. Did you say that when she came down what's that author Jordan symbol. The delays like Nike Symbol. Go for some reason I was thinking about like Lionel Richie dancing on the ceiling. Well I'll tell you what she did the she. I started dancing she she didn't. She did the exact opposite. It's not she actually did some like a lakes. They did their looney tunes shit like when she before she hit the ground look meantime she gets a kick before she before she falls. That is and I'm GonNa tell you something man. This stripper is dedicated. Brave talented animal. Tell you when we might be laughing at this but I mean she got hurt but I'm I'm laughing because she got back up and started working again that is I'm not even lying. That is some of the best work ethic and dedication to a job. I've Lebas see that is that is that is that is amazing to me because she did hurt herself this stripper. She she she she she. She broke some teeth and broke her jaw dance. She's got to go get surgery injury and what I think is cool about this. Is that people you know how the Internet is man. Maybe she had these kind of messages ages but if she did she was very cool about it she didn't talk about the negative. She talked about the positive. She was so moved by the positivity that she has she just got on twitter and start crying the people because you know l.. Let me listen. The way things females online today. especially all these do's Lincoln multiplicity but get one act moral and try to act like you know you need to be a lady in this this this right here it is. There's a job you know how guys are tall. Guys would have been on their time by a well. Deserved it you whore you hope. Oh you know what to expect doing the devils where you know how people to and do the devil up there. Gosh Oh do didn't he. You No it's a hotel or hotel of thoughts their whole over there. You know all the KHOTIP is this. This is the kind of Black Knight. All Yeah Yeah. The one has always criticizing trying to like make everybody. Perfect in his vision. Vision of like alkaline from some. Yeah no that's Desa thing but that was not the case with her man. They a lot of people. Oh came in. They said we hope you. Okay are you are right where you badly hurt. Do you mean anything and she was completely emotionally moved by that block messages asking me. If I'm cain like all this stuff so I decided I'd update everybody and let everyone know what's going on I. I pretty much broke my jaw and I had to have surgery on it tomorrow Brooks Teeth and I. I got a sprained ankle but inside but that has that has kept going. I bet she almost. What is it that you feel bad for pretty girls? She might be a horrible. Carl person you know. We don't know they don't know it but because she's she's pretty and she's doing this. I'm getting ready to cry. I is that man I think these. Because because you generally W. W. O.. GME over there is because she she grew she genuinely is showing some humbleness. That's what was happening. Listen I don't I don't know what's going on with the girl right now I don't know You know she my dad begging for money for all I know. I haven't seen it from this girl. She's just doing some. Genie Unwind Gracious Humbleness Cory. I did see she has go. Fund me Jesus Sir says in real quick okay what type it. I the moment I said it striping go fund me. Strippers Liebeck about that. Okay any means she has right. Okay Jar I. I'll give it some attention to look. She was hurting expensive. Tito t-that expensive Let's see here putting gold go fund me. I won't say anything yet but Let's see here let me see. I don't see GOFUNDME could've been I don't think kickstarter repairs broken strippers random goatee goatee right. There it is see those words. I'm sorry it was all one running word. Go Fund me. This is on blast there. It is st always joking really. That was no no bullshit people. I was joking about that being two stories. I don't know that was an actual fucking to store. Poll she's going to Jesus to touring telling you. God Damn Bitch Strip oppose the size of houses. This is the beginning this is crazy dud start doing next strip it on top of skyscrapers wings. He's a plane. This is a this is a hazardous job. You really have to give them parachutes now. I had to give them harnesses assumption. That this this is turning into acrobatics. Bad It's now this is this is not mere. This is not mere stripping anymore. This is I guess. That's a cool thing but says here strip who fell off two storey pole and while dance and has go fund me to help with injuries. Am I the only one that when they first went to ship club they were like looking and going. Is it wrong what what with no I I think a lot of people go to strip clubs and things like. I don't think it's wrong. I don't look down on it. Not that is bad. It's just seems like not like it should be happening. You know like like you shouldn't be like it's like it's so soc- is so weird that it's happening just in that. Little spot is so secretive and so- hidden it just makes it seem extra nasty me. Yeah because it is nice but it was very nasty because it's like you doing it like in a closet. Jerkin offer something like that. You know you're doing it in secret so it it gets it gets like grimier and so yeah okay. I'll tell you what I think is wrong because they up the up the game here. I think it's a weird environment. I'm only saying that because I don't have any moral attitudes towards stripping. I just think is weird because I walk in there and there's a girl grinding on me and I got a hard on and there's nothing to do with it. You know you you go you go mind. I'm like okay. That's a raw deal. I've been paid you to tell you I people I won't offend anybody but I'd rather people a prostitute and go all the way but I'll tell you what I think is wrong. I think is wrong when you got six fucking dancing on two story poles with no safety safety has this in place that is wrong and they probably uninsured by the place. That's fucking weird that that's the weirdest thing I've ever seen. That is raw. A fire safety at all. Does that up the cold. That poll firemen slide down short think in Texas is Great. I was in Mississippi for two years and I went to the Strip club. And there's this guy was giving a lap dance and they had the champagne room in the back and the stripper was like doing her thing out there before she took him to reach into his like Zip. This fly really and grabbed his day can lead them to share paying Dick like it was a leash thinking man you know attack. Texas is lane on say that being in Mississippi Texas Lane trips. Don't grabby mother the death dig. Take another rule. Let's say finish. He finished got. Yeah yeah well as far gives you go into some bullshit lime man. She got to go from me. But what are you going to. What are you guys have had to stop got deep? My brother look man. She broke a she broke jar and she brings some teeth I came. I want something how much you've got right now. But I can't US twenty million. She got sixteen thousand dollars dollars. Man Okay I don't have much. She was looking for. How long has it been? Probably five minutes got sixteen. Grand Sprain an ankle adding a sling. Yeah and like I said I don't know if this I don't know if this place ensures strippers but they should would when you got them doing this shit right here I go up. There Gotten fucking spider man but she manages Mantis. She's got the money coming in fine. She injured herself from the job. And like I say she's Alicia came out and she started thanking people for she. Just say give me money you know. She seemed cool because some stitches. But aside from that like I'm good I have no broken limbs. I walked away myself. I got up right after it happened and I'm just really overwhelmed by all the messages and everything and I'm so thankful thankful though for all the positive messages I've been getting all the love and it really means a lot so that's why I decided to post this video just to you say thank you that to me. Sweet man. She's there she she really is talking. She seems she's listening to people. People who scam folks on go fund me there's people who actually Like do you remember that that couple couple that gave that money that a homeless Guy Yup scam the whole time just used to find out all three of them in all three of please make the movie. That Shit needs to be a movie. That was a scam. But you know what we. We saw this face planning on that on that. That that that that Church glass England's spaceships stripper. I don't blame her at all. She won't do this. Go Fund. Me Teeth are expensive. These over here have said she suffered an injury and that-that's claiming paying for Shit do acquaintance with that scene. Where they were like I? I can get better than that. They were showing the scars and stuff. You know there was a stripper that I knew in the uh-huh and the mid nineties And she likes she had like a very small mouth. You know and You know we we hung out with some you know and this other stripper friend. A mutual friend of ours. She was talking about the girl's Ex ex-boyfriend and she said what you ever wonder why our mouth is small and I said Yeah. Look out a weird but she said well. Her boyfriend was like mad at her. Jesus where's this going. Yeah you're right. Looking looking boyfriend was mad at her and he like grabbed her like he was gonna kiss her and when he was kissing her he likes sucker lips up in his mouth and he bitter our lips. Are you fuck what that's true. That's all she had to have her lips reconstructed Jesus not. Where did you find? Find this man you hang around strippers and stuff like that. You'll you hear a lot of stories. Tragedy Damn is nothing but darkness airmail having a good time in the USA. Expensive as like lips are more teases Christ uh-huh and he just come just like well. Yeah that's the life of Casanova Frankenstein. Oh Hey we'll with that we'll take a break to recover. We'll be right back. Thanks belived that is saying the my right their lives in this pug always find a way to top. You know what. That's some crazies. It when you look at something like this post triple man man. Yeah but she still has not right. That's not folder man. Yes she when I heard that you know it was such a visceral thing even like here. Welcome back everybody go. Do you hear this. He said Ted he the graphic detail he within the kiss sucked her lips in in chump. All of it not only her lips get get bit off. She had the so. I'm back herself. She got him back. That's what they get to be. Reconstructed had to be reconstructed. Yeah in God instructed. Get so mad at somebody. How do you get that much anger in you? I hope I never find the day I buy. Somebody's lips off. Put Me to cage. That sounds like one of those like Proto where they call them Those guys did that. They're complaining 'cause they never get in sales. Yeah pro win sale. That's what it is. I saw it. Should this that that is like we say pro in-cell fucking demonic. That's like heads patient zero Zombie. Should the Chad is saying. That's it's not a person that's a Goddamn Walker from the walking dead missed up and just to hear. That story was so visceral when I heard it you know and the bad the bad part hard was it after that you know. I did want to kiss her anymore because this was like it was just her face was different. You would kissing her you know. I wanted to kiss her before but not kiss her. Before I heard about that pucker up expedite to make fun check. CAST over Augustan. You have crossed the line so we can get scolded. My of Franken snuck sir. Don't make fun of this woman to do it. Okay but you know now. You talk about her she she got back up on the pole. This girl got back into strip and she got her reconstructed what is she went back to. It is Oh frigging lipstick you can. You can bust your jaw man boo when you got to like have you face face like I think so. I think this kind of summed up for for you right here. CASTLEMED Frankenstein this. This explains you completely as quarterback skull here this Nigga. It's all right. Hey let's go ahead and get into let me see. Let's go ahead and get into into our next piece of Food Mrs Right here. Let's see what we got. Oh okay so as you know. The Oscars happened last night. We had a good time watching Oscar. girls got to join us. You know there's a lot of a lot of big moments that happened at the Oscar. The Oscars the Oscar a lot of good glad. Big Moments with Oscar over. Were there one of them. Were everybody's talking about how the Koreans just took everything invaded the Oscars took all our shit. That nine I also there was the big names and the talk and the videos of billy in thinking what we're thinking fucking everybody WanNa talk talk about this girl and talk about how that was rude. How this young punk right here? Look at her. She's got no respect now. Baby she was. You think everybody else. I was thinking those presented not funny. I'm sorry and she's just being real about it. She's like fucking this weird thing you get to Hollywood and won honest on his person is the person that they look like. They're nuts. I mean well. She stood up highlighter for but seeking. No this is her. Joan rivers was like half like you made half a tupperware. You know you can't make fun of being in in green hair in Hollywood runner. I'm not making fun of her. I'm like a style. I'm saying she just stood out out. I mean when they when they listen to people who stood out in the crowd if there was a lot of people there so they did a wide shot. You saw two spots one. You saw his name 'cause she was sparkling. You could miss that bright sparkly spot and then there was a big as marine patch in the middle of it too and that was her and I need making fun of it because she was thinking. Exactly what the rest I was thinking. What the fuck is this? This is not funny while everybody else was clapping. Everybody else on the crazy ones no. She completed normal she. She was keeping it real racy. Norman Home Hollywood will detonate. She was the most real one. I love how honest she was being. Fuck everybody everybody was looking like this with the fuck is everybody laughed. It about my favorite though Mar Scorsese not giving a fuck about Eminem to leave his daughter. Just don't know what to do she. I ain't never seen a wigger before she. She's like Martha. I thought he was black. This old man. She wasn't reversals. I did not give a fuck. He slept he slept through EMINEM. The form is there like they voted. Saying this ain't cinema. I don't care fuck a guy who makes gangster films that was pretty gangs to I can give a fuck about. You said Your Shit Tie. Oh y'all killing gang by gangsters fuck you but hope the song anyway. That was the crazy thing. That's another reason why probably fell asleep. You like old. There was no explanation. For why EMINEM was at at at the Oscars except Oh boy. I guess that Song One like for best song in a movie or something. Can you know why because the last block they brought black representative before a scared all the white people in the studio that tiny brought in. What is it three six Mafia? It is when they brought in six split Mafia. Who'd succeed him yeah? I'm usually have fun at three. Six is mafia man. Three six mafia came in and scared the fuck outta everybody when they won for a song from from say shocking stuck in a job. What is it called The one we hey main you know what I'm talking about Let me see. Damn what is that called flow. was that the Hustle Hustle and flow. Man Let me see six six three mafia man. They win the Oscars they they had. They had white women clutching his hand clutching their purses many walk. The Jesus the fuck they were like what the fuck is this. Who let these fuckers in here and the Oscar goes to? Aw this is the First Dollar Shave Club Dolly Parton. I was like I can't believe in negative one series. Several all. Take care about Tuxedo. WHO's Su a war? They will last title. Two streets constraints and we will take on our choreographer host on irregulars Lisa L. is our malls our whole family family. Thank you Jesus. Jesus Jesus Kademi say Gil Kegs. Things got plenty of time. Van De Basically yeah once again. Our founders lucrative recreate going show before He's like I met him. They robbed me. Yeah man is why they say you know what we bring a break beggar Rep. We're going to bring back a white. Rapper claybrook beg like just I don't know why if this really explains why he was there last night but I guess when and his song was up for a nomination he didn't think he was going to win so he didn't even go to. The Oscar. tweeted something this morning saying like I. Finally they made it like sorry. I missed IT THAT IS A. That's a really sweet store of course as I don't give a fuck. Yeah I don't cut. It puts a sweet spin on it. But you know something. Probably the one of the most One of the most colorful and positive highlights of the night. Something that got the whole crowd bopanna heads and clapping happening. Dancing was Sir Elton John. Giving a live performance of I'm GonNa love me again. The whole they went to it and everybody crowd they will except for one. Um But one dude name Khan who was con- you don't know personally I don't even know but he did email me and while everybody was Bobbin the head to Sir Elton John over there a con sitting at home. And he's saying hey wait a minute I've I'm heard this somewhere before Elton. John just ripped off somebody who say was also due at the Oscars ceremony last night. John Witherspoon Witherspoon Song with the song. Bang Bang Bang my love going. Let's Seles listen one more time. So here's the Sir Elton John. It's all right here. Is Sir John Witherspoon. Raise in saying that. Elton John Song knew that Elton John Song. Yeah instead of. It's okay so if this is old I don't know because is very close but I looked at this and I don't know if this is the whole song maybe it was republished published. But that they said it was published in Twenty nineteen this. This is the movie the Elton John. Movie Uh Yeah that was for the movie that came out at Edgerton got his name on the the next generation. Yeah Yeah exactly. So I mean could it be remixed. I don't know I don't know just from the rocket man soundtrack in so I mean I don't know people tell tell me is it. Did this song exist in some form already am I. Am I missing. Something here. CA- somebody ripped off the other person. These sound very very very similar. Let me see here. I'm going to listen again. I hadn't heard the song before so you know now. Maybe it'll no my Elton. John Much thought I did okay. So the Chad is saying this is this is new and the present a look at a John. Witherspoon say Elton dies about a week big so he wins there but yeah people are saying somebody saying is very someplace they said. This is new this song right here. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa love me again. John Witherspoon They WanNa know who that is. That is John Witherspoon who died in two hundred eighteen he was at the Oscars in the in Memoriam section. Where they brought him up? He also apparently worked part time at a gas station. A tire shop so life but that segment where he saying that's at is taken first of all if you if you're looking at John Witherspoon you're like man that well you should know who he is. Great Comedian John Witherspoon but for some the younger people that you might know him as well even before pops you might know him as GRANDPA. IMPA Graham You haven't had made the white people riot what you thought I was telling the truth. How many ten head? I told you you'd better not even dream uh-huh about telling the truth legendary role right there but you got to right before before grandpa there was pops. POPs was a character on that. Wayan brothers show came on what was what was the channel at the time WB The WB WB brothers. So I really saw and the episodes but you know what I'll give them. I'll give them respect for the use of the dummy man. I don't Miss About having so much. CG around and everything dummies anymore W. Hilarious. It is man I love when it's a it's a real person. THOSE MOBILE APP go limp. Yeah he's okay. Oh look she got knocked seat to all those things. Oh they're good for something on a John Witherspoon you remember In Evil Dead Bruce Campbell said he was retiring the character survey. I thought that you know before John was thought it would be cool if he had taken over ash. Williams while the fuck where you you think think think about think about John Williams playing ashes character just getting his ass beat by Evil Bill and then he takes his belt off and he's like within like demons and stuff like that that would be genius think there will be something that would definitely be original. He would have made a great act. I don't I'm trying to picture right now. I don't see it I'm really nope. Don't -magine him. I scared to death being in his place. These keys trying to get out. He can't get out. And you know these things are fucking with them and like breaking plates over his head is definitely I. It was something that I would just have to see an unfortunate. I guess that's not. I don't happen unless they do it. And you'll mind is fucked up as we even with a spill grows you know what do you think man. What do you think about? This song sounded like all the time. But what do you what do you think. Yeah I mean is definitely a case where You know like you said it's coincidence. Some things are blatantly. Ripped off of it's tough for me to see. Maybe it is but for me. It's tough to see Elton John. Watching the waves puppets the right. I'M GONNA Chalk this up to coincidence man you know he he might do never know man and let's say you baby out. Somebody's GonNa Watch Jeff Fall. We know man listen but again shows collaborative effort that time so maybe somebody else may have soy. Maybe somebody else may have rope dose upheld him that Elton John Song there are a lot of soul. He might watch a lot of black comedies. We don't know brothers we should even the beginning of that song out to job. Probably saw your show man Even at the beginning of this song sounds like this song. Elton John me now. Listen Elton. John Q. Voted Afro Denver. Like wait a alert. He might he might. Have I bring this up two reasons one. These songs things do sound very very much alike. Listen to this and bring this up. It could be it. Could be a coincidence but it could be just music has reached. The point is not that creative anymore to where we wayan brothers. Show Dick Elton John. The back look right here. I'M GONNA exclude this a funky tune so solicit Sir Elton John China. No somebody said POPs voice was a little bit better. He had a good voice. But the reason why I bring this up is because some said so this whole thing where the people were talking about in this the most infamous example a blurry lines Alan Thicke and Ferrer Williams that song they got sued by the Marvin Gaye Estate for sound too much like what. What was the song Got To give it up and you know I. I don't disagree the sound so much like like I give it up from Marvin Gaye but at the same time for Real Williams says is a lot of this stuff is so subjective man I think the sets up a very very dangerous standard doing on this right here because the well with two things happen with this case I feel one is Alan Thicke. Everybody was hating him. Yeah he he got caught China. Paula Patton his wife at the time in Yemen and people look for some reasons they had you know a lot of people that God damn. She's fine go. Fuck around on net dues matter like I can't get in on that fine you fucking that up the women of course Mad Adam because it was a it was open public cheating scandal. So I've always said that the the court of public opinion kind of came in and weighed in on this case. The other thing is that What's his name thick Keeping Father Alan but Robin Robin Thicke. He kinda threw forever under the bus on this one man I mean when the on and he was talking about when I really have anything to do with making some you know that was just the performers. I think a lot of people saw that and he thought I can't be an asshole man Toyota after going to bring up a vanilla ice and that whole craziness all right was there was straight up. It wasn't like they beat sounded familiar. They were straight up lip synching. There's no denying you take the slow. Like Isis explanation was the best. Oh and vanilla is explaining you know no days go. Don't don't don't don't go into the into the thing. Yes and that's another way he's straight up sampled it straight up in maybe paid out of court or something I don't know but I'm just saying man. Can They Assu with this. Can somebody from the Wayan brothers show. Can they come in and actually pulled a lawsuit saying that you know Elton. John Stole our Wayan brothers. Show saw yeah. I don't know I mean it's because anybody can sue anybody can and got something because I think the reason reason why not Marvin Gaye so huge. That song was so popular that when The the the estate came down on the and they came down on them aggressively. And I think you know that song being so popular that yeah you know. It's kind of easy to just be on their side. But I think it's so many songs man so many songs that sound the same. We can go all night pulling up songs that sound the same got show what it is copyrighted the baseline actual notes that are written. I don't know what's copyrighted will. I have no clue. Yeah maybe chat knows. I don't know yeah. I don't know man has to be eight bars of melody. That's what I always thought I. Maybe so just bring me back to was fair. What happened with that song I know everybody's in main? Sim Sound just like that. But there's so many songs that sounded saying I'm GonNa Bring one that I just. I heard the other day. Let me see here bring a couple and I say you know saw I never thought about it but the song sounds so much alike. Let me see as this song. I'm thinking thinking of here with moderate. That's not hold on. I got it honestly. You don't have to sit there either. I mean golf links. They've you want out of Pixie. Wants to stay. No pixie wants to go. She wants to get up and she wants to she she she doesn't like standing still she. She she but I'm GONNA play couple. Just let me just place up the for you real quick the show you my point here how these songs star son the same. This is Red Hot Chili peppers man and I heard this song and opposite and having have have I never noticed. Sounds like this other song. Let me see here. This is California resumes here this hidden in the state of Mississippi on the okay so I heard that and I thought wow sounds very familiar like this song right here on the commercial but let me see they lose slow but it's got the same kind of got the same tunnel structuring away. It's a business slowdown. Thanks to love and Sweet Home Alabama to same. Yeah yes so many songs that sound the same and this is you telling you that this that this get a bad rap right here blurry Lonzo think I think you'll right as far as the court of public opinion on him. You know everybody was taking a dump on Robin Thicke. You know and that whole appropriation thing fell on him as well. All that story as far as taking meal of black music as a white odyssey you know an getting paid off of it and I really respect quote unquote so you know And you know the the Marvin Gaye Estate Wade into that song blew up. uh-huh did anything. Yeah no exactly were calculated with all these things so did he get a bump steer me. Maybe he'll does looking can at the The sables. That you played. How songs can be similar but this was again? The other one's very undeniable that this this is what they will lifting hip hop sampling. Yeah you know I. I think he's definitely was a sample Did he have to come from that hard. And ooh I dunno if you clear your samples you good. Yeah but but it seem as though ferrall did not do that. According to Robin Thicke all it was even like a sample. You thought he was just making a beat. That was a similar but Yami Nissan sound the same. I mean I. I don't know let listening to Elton John Song. That sounds just like that. I wonder if anybody's out again and in an enlisted this over here. I don't know man it gave man I don't know I don't know the case was open. A case he said he would Martin Denim Dick School on the case. I've tried to stir up some shit. Actually I just WANNA call some trouble autism. I wanted I want one of the. I want the brothers to go after this. You know Sue Elton. John and I want everybody come back and say you know and this was I was. I started uh-huh Corey Kobe. Make a Coleman over there. What do you guys think before we go to commercial? Do you think I'm crazy. Do you guys here. Do you think they did take this court that would be. They'd have a case a justifiable case. And what you guys say in the Chedda chime in if you like like he would just want to say about. This weird are cleared out his music. You got paid because he was taking those. Obviously the music that he was taken into those were from from songs that existed blurred lines was was well it was. They say wasn't stolen wasn't sampled. It was just be he made up in coincidentally sound kind of similar school. Coleman scoops coke. Yeah I don't know I don't know if they have a case there's just so much music now you know yeah so so many decades of in nobody can can hurried all that stuff. Yeah Yeah it's all. Somebody's sitting in honor of John Witherspoon. We should read his son tonight. I raid someone one time. I didn't even know so. Yeah man maybe I can tell name any stealing from your dead get. They'll get a man all right so you were going to take a quick break and we'll be back a couple of bits of foolishness and we'll do that right after this Almost at the end so US thank you so much sir. No thank you good times man. Good terms Mr Frankenstein chicken. embry thank you for hanging. Oh who WANNA know. We'd have such an eclectic audience tonight and guest. We got chicken ticketing breed Frankenstein. That's a meal for you right. That's a I have a good time. The great having you guys here. They they really they did they. Just light up my day when I see them around man. Congratulations really really. No congratulations again on your on your on your engagement. Really yes. She's trying to scope. Open our places to get married right now. Thinking about Old Vegas Vegas Vegas apparently so. Hey everybody we're back check in on the Chad is congratulating you this and congratulations shack. How long have to the Mike and tell us? How long have you and Kevin been engaged? Aged it'll be engaged. He proposed the week before Thanksgiving. And how long have you been going out seventy seven this time. It's been a minute there's been yeah. I reached five years of my wife. She's they we doing this. No no options at all slow. Yeah the Chad is being very nice. Congratulations Yeah A- saying yeah come to Vegas. Hey I need to go back and have been the biggest seven years bleeds do plead no seriously. I didn't want to impose I don't want to push muscled. Oh please to the wedding. Give me a chance to go. I'll get extras. Looked up for you EH. That'd be fun. Me and the wife will come there she she loves she loves to party. You know that right she. She's like Mia. If you're listening like we love you so much and you look like you're having the best time in New York. There's all know. Excuse me gene. We're let me see as MIA love to party boy. Let me see if I can find video of her on all the one two took it to my cousins took it to my cousins. A surprise party for his wife and she she was the only technically the only white person there is she proceeded to she proceeded white girl wasted it in our instagram story. To Joe Yeah. She loves instagram stories. Man Yau yeah somebody said ex white meat I yeah man. We had good no so she's going to bring that back to the way it's going to be a lot of you. Let us know all right. Let's see we got quick foolish is going on. You know this. This is part we just we get we get into. Let me see as we at us. We get into the part of the show where it's nothing but fun foolishness sir. I like the fun foolishness. Do it girl what's going on. Can you just sit down for a moment. You know what I got to you would since I'm holding. No I'm going to do that yet. I'm not going to. I'm going to do this when I so you know what does as we say. Amen is a lot of well I just put it this way. People don't exactly get into crime because they're the smartest people you know some do and those you don't catch usually the ones that you catch the dumbest far and every week. There's another story to tell criminals what not to do. The funny. The thing about it is. It's not even like a special thing. It's just fucking commonsense take for example. If you're traveling would a bag full of illegal drugs do not label. The bag as bag of drugs goes the Florida highway patrol arrested two alleged drug traffickers after troopers pulled them over and found drugs in a bag labeled bag full of drugs. GHB COCAINE MDA. An Fenton all the Santa Rosa County Sheriff's Office posted Monday night. Mice fought in this county. Ah Officer those are my vegetables if I say he is drove. Then they're not gonNA think wisdom wisdom are maybe thinking we better say bag full of drugs in case we lose it media saying to genius traffic or legal narcotics in bags labeled bag full of drugs. It's our canines can read. No I like this. I wonder if they win. He pulled them over. They had they had a they had a name tag to sit drug drug dealers. The car had on their body and trump getaway vehicle. Only get. Yeah you know because if they were wearing. Those shirts was stupid twenty the man. What can you follow that up with? Because that's just commonsense. The police look at that. And you say no. That's not. That's not a bag full of drug suspect bag full of drugs. Well that would just be an ironic thing like fuck you. You know. It's not smart enough to be you know it's going to be a bag full of drugs. They're stupid well. That's what happens when each you think you're smarter than everybody else. Because because they wanted they wanted to be smart they wanted to be funny. You want to get their walk. Walk is in what happens when you file. Yeah Yeah you know you know the last thing they said before they got called. You know be hilarious. The cubs pulled us over the drugs on crazy man because we actually have a bag full of drugs. Is this Florida. Yeah Dan Jesus Course get away with it because the police can't read half well Florida. You have some of the most honest straightforward criminals. Man You gotTa get Florida as we say. Don't you change slow moving on the police have now. Here's one you know as I see. Sometimes I just I like to show something is not. It's not anything bad. It's not anything that's disturbing. It's not anything that's going to make you feel that he manny's should is doomed to die. I shouldn't exist anymore like facebook like facebook. Sometimes things that just cute like like this video right here. Dog crashed into a table. Ted Talk. That dog slammed right into it. Oh that dog needs to. He needs to be a stuntman. He looked like those bucket western when people getting a bar fights and they get drawn over the tables gme slim. Jim Commercial hit. Take the dog as the best reaction after this to look this. I'll stop fucking around al.. I'll just sit down. Sit Down now while you're looking at who did that. Look Look but look at the dog over here with a little dog in the corner washed because you look too busy watching his dog Hobie look look. Look look righty. I'm not talking about this. Little Dog look right here. The dog was like Whoa. WHOA WHOA fuck the dumb ass? A little doll like Dan. You fuck that table to you. We started go. You'll find me that dog Lestari but he did not a dog. The dog can if I work as a strip corey that the dog has a gofundme page. Are you fucking kidding. Okay the table to help me home. Oh Mickey Oh. That dog is amazing. That dog needs to go as always say about some of these other dogs that do this kind of Shit. That dog needs to go to Hollywood and stunt work the go to cut that dude off and go around the plane. He had a plan. I'll in fact you see what he looked like. I'll pay for that seizes seizes. Christ this dog man take his dog to Hollywood. Fuck I mean he. No the dog is needs to to learn how to stick the landing us. The dog learns how to stick the landing. He'll be like old Duke. He'll he'll get what happened. Oh you haven't seen this before. This dog is a fucking hero. Man This this dog is straight out of action film. It was this. They're trying to stop this. It's a guy and his car to get out the car get out. The car. Dog will attack and he'd like dog and between is glass came the Joe got nothing on that dome. No no Oh hell no. Yeah just just just work on finesse. Man You'll you'll be right up. There would stick the landing. They say he did it because I thought he will land on his back he did cut a land is strike oppose you. It never happened about his paws. Shit I worry about his life. It is going to be hurry adults fine. He bled out an hour later. They brought this on myself as a juggling Booja Mama through a copy love fucking Save Lennon got got damn team. Oh sorry I'm sorry dog. Let me tell you about this. Then I'll tell you man. Darkness follows this man around. He talked about how it used be a Dogcatcher. He told chicken and so is he told his man. This man told these girls story so so he's says Congress the dog catcher and I think Natasha says I must have been so said during their working at a shelter in this mandal like it actually was kind of funny you know because we used to take bags of dead dogs and cats to the to the dumping not to throw bodies in there and got. I used to throw in dead dogs. I guess this is It was fun and they just say was sometimes. It makes me sound like a month. Yeah sorry exotic monstercast Frankenstein What this real quick Tau did you tell it what I was saying? was she said well. No you know after a while you get you get used to it but it was interesting. It was interesting because all right we had that thing we call the kill and every day because it was it was Lubbock Texas in nineteen ninety two and because of that nobody Eddie spayed or neutered dogs and so there were these dogs everywhere as you're always getting picked up. Feral cats everywhere always getting picked up so you know you you do the Keel. Every day and the gas chamber would be Jesus these talking inevitable stop it does with death and killing you do. It's better to die in the gas chamber then like run over slowly. I know that cancer is better. All I know is that the. She's got a weird man. I'm somebody says something interesting. It always reverts to something being cool is is at least. They didn't get their lives bitten off. Oh boy it'll be sexy Frankenstein over here you I gotTa tell you man I mean I don't know what I'm saying but you gotTa stop man has got to really hasn't gone man. You gotTA style. That just makes you stand up. The girls must love this. What really get Outta? Yeah man really start with that story for you to start talking to me. Talk about like things like Debt that's an effort. Come up and talk about you know you gotTa hang you hanging on the wrong places just like maybe intimidating. He's he's got nowhere to meet them like graveyards. Tell you one thing look. This is something that I learned. Girls did dress up like vampires. I appears they're scared of two things. Sunlight and Negros to golf club. I love the Black Guy. You know what I thought you would stand out because you know the black gun the coffee club. Yeah but they're still white then the white you're white people. Yeah okay no offense. Vampires there why people are going to act like why the people this because they listen to cure doesn't mean that they all of a sudden they've they've grown up around black people know they all grew up in the suburbs and like they see awesome by their father wouldn't appreciate even though they still like you know they're they're they're in white makeup and long black hair daddy. Daddy doesn't like that but God damn bringing Negro home. Daddy's GonNa Disown me. The whole story laid out. Yeah Yeah You Bring Dracula that you guys will. Hey tell you we'll check cracking up but there's al-anon dot. Sa Debt Dot Hicks not lying. Somebody's damned damned down All right look at them. Somebody's I love him. You are right. Dot Dot underscore Hicks think. I meant to say all right. Let's go ahead and got one more piece of foolishness in Wilmington is very straightforward. Do it right after this break. It has been fun night tonight. It's been a very interesting and fun. dimes damage getting good to see what we got left right here. All too stupid. What's going all right? Is this just dumb. Let me see recuiter me. Shit is the video. I'm saving that for tomorrow. Almost able to more the pussy pop video will say that for tomorrow. We can't wait Fabric Zen so he he did a mash up of a Come up to the mega pussy. poppin video at work and we had a computer screen because you got to do all kinds of stuff because when you welcome back everybody so before you get. His last bit of foolishness is saying what is what does this pussy popping video that you speak of constraint. Well what it was I worked at. Ut and we we had access to you know Internet and all that Kinda on this stuff and so you know when you when you have like a A job like that. Where you're being disrespected like by your bosses? Because you're Kinda on a low the low man on the Totem Pole. Thank you aggressions out. So you can take all your free time and you start making these these videos. What's the problem video? It's good it's this gymnast. And she does just amazing routine floor routine with with this ball and I was thinking you know what would be the opposite of that that I could put music with that and so I think push pop so I took this those deserve. Ah I found a program online mash them up and the thing is is is it linked linked up so what he was saying. What she was doing I was just like you know it was just a miracle who was meant to be? Tim Getting made to walk the Moon. God blesses everyone the last right in your treasure. Take Sixty Frankenstein. He isn't tresor frigging Stein over here. Array seeking tonight. Well tonight is looking like billy eyelash yet. It'd be right now. Oh all night looking like this. Let's go in into last. Bit of food is look I just I just saw this As a you know. Nothing weirdness tonight been in Cazenove frigging scheme. But but before that this time square uh-huh L. Milwaukee abundant. This bunch of his village and Indians do decide to dress up like the most rags looking bears and actually be rats and decide to walk around making noises and try to try to scare the monkeys Where will the sacred in India detail in those? It looks like a knockoff Mexican. Mickey worst very convincing. His Lily Redwood perms. We'll get the worst worst worst. Yeah it'd be we're going to Disneyland India in your this go to the weirdest earth try to scotties monkeys. You Muggers be fucking eighties. Turn around who everybody will come I. It wound up his bears the bears in India. That's as they do today. The Big Nick Beard security for the when I wear my wrestling as people freak out. He can do that and I can't wear hanging out with you. Know they took a lottery is on the cost. He didn't WANNA put a mobile. He drew the short stroke. Yeah you know. Jesus craze worst gigolo causing mean. Meanwhile the mangas usually among they just looking at the running deals. The the Pena's watching these stupid motherfucker training. You know what he looks like doing. That looked like Hogan Macho man doing that. I guess they do talk until you you you you you tell them folks you know what you don't see in this. This is stupid somebody said. Hey Corey half somewhere where this costume to scare the Naked Man Holloway. Get audet mega man. Put some clothes on gotTA GET OUTTA here man. I'm picturing in my mind that with just the mask on piano uh-huh the jazz Ratzel Dan in about the electric car. Say uh-huh Oh oh Jesus Christ man so maybe we better get paid. Got A couple of crankiest. The ship for that hill rides with terms. Oh boy love it that that is it. I do have an email from someone right here. Let me see would read that see let me see and it will get out of here humanitarian. Email real quick. Yeah do it to do it do it. Do the people got to say eight people got to say. Excuse me well. I'll tell you what they got to say. They say we'll get a DETTMER DOT COM get that classic to the White Logo. Oh go right big at these colored shirts right. They'll slides your clothing and wears that we have here in. DT MERGE DOT COM. I'm working on the ST agreed shirt. So yes I'm trying to find somebody to do the art for me. I might pick. Somebody wants a mission. Might get you another shirt sir. I I did get you a submission. the style that you have is not what I have in mind for this but I will think of of another. Thank you This comes from see if I could find this person. see Eh full-time working on comics. You know when you retired amid a scandal. Yes then no no what. I'm making artful okay. Now that's great. That's great man no that his awesome making our full-time. The dream is to drink. Man as Jack Whistle. Jaguars says I've been diving into jazz for the past few years recently discovered. WACO's on Roy Roy Hargrove his album ear food is a beautiful work of modern jazz varied and your taste of music. IMARN can be as well. I love all the grace race. Like Coltrane and Miles Davis but my question is more about undiscovered gems. So have you listened to any recent jazz musicians you would recommend. What are your thoughts on January as a whole as from Jack and he says thanks to stay toasty Jack? I Love Jazz. Took these girls to adjust last night. The elephant room. It's is a great place to listen to live jazz free on Sunday nights that you've been Mondays but you've been a long time on time. Plays been here before for even born on but it's been here for a while anyway As far as new artists go. I can't take any new artists a lot to you. I do love Jazz jazzy. My favorites I used to study the jazz draw jazz. Wake up every day. Listen I listen to a lot of things but listen to like Bossa. NOVA LISTENED TO ABBA COLE train station. I have a station for Vincent who is best known for doing the hollow. I mean saw the well. Yeah the Halloween special in the Christmas special thanksgiving. Well Thanksgiving special but Charlie Brown Music Linus and Lucy is one of the most trio. Yes but I can't tell you about new artists because I I can't knew anything man because Any kind of genre well. I don't like jazz fusion too much. Know too much for the parts. Everybody wants to have like they want. Everybody wants to star in Jazz fusion and they want to play the lead at the same time. And it's confusing. Yeah no I can see that although I do. Can I can probably listening some new compositions jazz artists today. But I can't tell you names within within any genre at all because spotify and streaming music services have kinda ruined it for me. I've I've mentioned that before I listened to I listened to Singles all the time. I don't really buy albums anymore since. CD's are gone And then they go into these radio playlist and they just start playing these songs and half the time. I'm not even I don't even know who they are because I am either busy. Are you know I'm not paying attention. And so so I don't really know any new things but I would do that man. I would find an artists that you'd like more recent artists you can find one and make a playlist is if you put the work into. It's still a great way to discover new artists. Sam Stuff all the time. Listen to college radio and going to restaurants and hearing stuff playing over the speakers so I have ZAM listed. I see the new stuff that I like but I don't keep up with it because so much music you you keep opening new artist now. What I do is like find older artists that I've never heard of? I keep keep going and finding things on youtube especially I find like a band. So things from the fifties and sixties that. I've never never heard of before and it's always happening. The problem with me with music is Especially pop music in ninety three. It just all went to Hail L.. If you if you think about it he had like sixty seventies eighties great-great-great music all till Nineteen ninety-three and in Nineteen ninety-three from that point until about two thousand six when I'd say like manpower weekend and stuff like that in that time period. No no song had a melody seriously. You can't none of the songs had it was it was all it was all Hook Hook beat but there was no I can see that No seriously I don't like to criticize music too much. Because people get real defensive but I I can see what you say man. 'cause I kinda agree. I was based structure. You know when you when you talk about music harmony melodies you and he has certain elements that go into it so when you remove a melody from it you move your removing a big part of what makes a saw a yeah. I've often said that about hip hop like this. Not you know there's no. There's no melody the right there man alive some of us just a beat but not talking about all hip hop we think us you listen to jazz ever I. I guess I do win advertently because I'll listen to some hip hop in debt is very jazz inspired with the melodies and stuff like that but I don't actively go out looking looking for any music at all really so You know something's if a station is on airplanes as I won't turn it off. I think is very soothing but I don't actively go looking for jazz or actively looking for any music period. If something's only sounds cool well listen to. That's about it. Yeah you know so Yeah so now. There's a guy and his he's not new by any means but I thought this was a cool album that I found a long time ago. And it's now on CD and you can find it on Amazon. They probably have it on Amazon. Prime it's Monday low and his Mundell Lowe and his all stars TV TV Action Jazz. And if you owe the action jazz and it's like they're performing because in the fifties they had like all those those TV shows shows they had like Canada's jazzy. Jazzy things too. And so what they did was they would take the themes and they would like take them out into like full jazz. Oh Nice Snow Nice TV Action Jazz. Mundell Lowe in is nice I will. I will listen to their man. I love TV things because everybody loves the Rockford following and everything like that John Lomax. That's why I love. This guy is one of my favorite guys. I'm going to save this way tomorrow. You know Lomax Lomax Lomax has moved to Houston man. I love Lomax Lomax Guy. That guy's amazing. He has a guy the I love him and hung him when when we did our show in Chicago and he was great. He has a question for you but I'm going to save it for tomorrow. Is a good question so journal got anybody. Sales hasn't questions for Castle Frankenstein. Haven't prepare for tomorrow and let me see here. I'm going to go to a break real quick we can now. I want to tell you something very important. We get back so stick around. We'll be right back and I don't want guest here chicken bree we thank you guys so much. They'll be here one more night and then they're going to leave his own Wednesday. I'm so sad just for a short time. Did you whereafter answer is questioned their real fabulous. What he's talking about the guy putting you put okay? Never mind so you guys still WanNa see rainy street doing okay. I'm GonNa take them the rainy streets in night. They I told them they. They want to see less crazy version of six. Just twenty five. And we're old time I'M GONNA WE'RE GONNA go on Rainy Street and we're GONNA play Bingo place and bridge so it'd be very slow place on airport that The the pool the pool. Call Oh wait a minute I know you welcome back everybody talking about grant and been there years man I ah good spot but I want to show them. They want to see like an entertainment district better. I was thinking guests chicken embryo. Thank you for being here of Course Sexy Frankenstein Aka Casanovas Frankenstein. Aka formerly known as our frank known as man and for over twenty years now man Mitchell in ninety two ninety two. Yeah almost thirty years. Jesus yeah known for years so from now on. We're not tell the story about how Martin I met at a party and the only black people there of cartoonist. I'd have to say that's a correction. It was three of us net room at the time. And you were the other one yup and let me see an Oz green. Thank you Sir thank you no thank you good times. It is a chat. I hope you had a great time tonight. Let me know if it was fun for you. Let me know. If you have any suggestions and feedback forest listen but I was just hope you had a good time entertain. Can you feel. Free is very fine so thank you thank you thank you and you knew folks up in here awesome show tonight. I had a great Had A toasty time as always angry. Asian says Hell Yeah was like a walking fever dream. The Kodak Khazar says had a great time Koi definitely will be back tomorrow for more cazenove goodness over here. Thank you famous. Yes he's infamous. Yeah ask thank you so much. It's good episodes. Say All right well let me go ahead and wrap things up so I can get the girls out here you know like you said. They're they're old and they need to get to bed soon. So tasted twenty-five they're up there up there. Let me go out there and take. Hopefully hips won't break tonight's nightside good time Doku. Good man always miss the Hazelton Mar Hazelton. It says thanks. Coy Us. Cazenove in the girls missed their real names This is chicken and brief. They make a green sash and Tasha. Yeah Yeah Shaken Jones. It does have Marie to a detective named George Chickens. Joe They say we love as always. Ra Okay we out of here guys. Thank you so much I want to thank you guys for getting us over our goal of fifteen hundred subs. Let's try to win that by thousand but we don't get the five thousand and we'll be happy with two thousand five hundred. That's what we need to get before the intimate looks like you guys are GonNa be determined to get us there really appreciate that We'll be the and California March six for the love of a glove. If you want to see the show come on out Hopefully you'll be able to sit with us but we already sold off the tickets to the role that were sitting in so so we'll see you one way or another because after part of their see Florida at the end of the month for platelets live. It's going to be an Orlando unbelievable. I believe yeah and we have more things coming up. New York is coming up very soon. can't wait to see us for that show. Yes serves a good time man. We could see guys may come out and hang out Man New York we always represent so we gotta do one. motown is Sir yes sir. Listen into the man listen to you as a man you WanNa make angry. No you do not so that said I want to thank the very patient Pixie tonight I but she held in there. Thank you for your thank you for your understanding baby appreciate I love this dog. Love the dog that other one. I can't stand but don't tell my wife that no I love Mojo I love Joe. Modell does a great dog does a great dog. All right everybody that is it. We already here. Remember if you want to get a hold up as you can do so at any time whether we're streaming not just typing cooymans at G. DOT DOT COM S. K. C. O.. Emails being complement sauce and put in our advice won't be part of the show this evening as we asked me to wells. Okay we're done but we got more show coming back tomorrow along with guests castle of Frankenstein. You're not gonNA WANNA miss that again. ooh ooh uh hey. We're on twitter. INSTAGRAM facebook post. It also reach me on facebook type five too busy out here holiday these folks mister. 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