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Rob & Akiva Need a Podcast #70: Survivor | Season 3, Episode 7 Recap

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Rob & Akiva Need a Podcast #70: Survivor | Season 3, Episode 7 Recap

"What talk every week Johnny? They need yeah. We are back episode number seven days. That's right regular theme. MM Song I have to say I did have the Dr Mike. Zella Hausky Pena's podcast theme song stuck in my head all week long. So I'm happy to have that pallet cleanser unser of the irregular theme song here for Episode Number Seventy and. What a special one? It's going to be season. Three episode number seven talking about a little show no known as survivor. Let's bring in the man who got the Akiva Choice Ping Pong ball episode number sixty nine and said. Hey let's talk about survivor here. He is the CO founder of Robin. AKIVA needed podcast. The founder under of the thirty two fans podcasts and Co host of the curb your enthusiasm post show recap now three weeks in the Great Akiva. Winegar Rob I just you know we had the ping pong balls come up last week. Akitas choice and I thought like what is show that does not get enough. PODCAST is not enough one of love on the Internet. People aren't talking about it enough in your part of the world. Okay yes that's right that's right okay and fitting bad balls would factor into our ask Dr Mike episode decide what was going to be coming up. We're GONNA talk about season three episode seven of survivor from the time that we first conceived hey of this idea. We said that there had to be one special guest here for season three episodes. Have we ever talk about it. He or she is the host of talking with T.. Bird survivor legend. Teresa Reza Cooper is here. TB How are you rob it Akiva. I'll drink some water because I'm still I'm out of breath from Danson to y'all's arrive in Akiva need a podcast song. It's a boss fantastic. Thank you thank you so mark. It's so nice nice to be back here with you here. In the off season we talked to the separate a couple of weeks ago and now here we are looking at us on Robin Akiva. podcast this Kilroy also okay. So did you hear me admonished. Allowed to use my podcast Bell Kasit and about me at all so so you still today if I go over the top of the bill but I just thrilled. I can't believe Y'all are allowing me to follow the Penis podcast wonderful. Thanks for all right. Eleven Jeeva how a team of how have we'd never met yet. I mean we've met today voice voice but I think you live in Georgia and I don't leave my house so it would be hard for us to me. Where do you live because I do live by? Leave my house so I might have to come to you. Maybe we could. We could beat the middle. I think in Omaha Nebraska. Yeah that's the middle for you to I don't know I don't know like the Bermuda Triangle or something. I work on that anyway okay. So here's T-bird T.. Bird do you have any idea what we're about to do today. I probably should have found out before I locked it in decided to do it. But but you know when you asked me to do so. I'm going to be available. He is the greatest. Do you know what this show is. T. Bird I I should. I would like to say that I do but I don't but but I know one thing y'all's podcast music theme song is over the top cool occurs. Okay good good. It has anything to do. I mean we can only Ago We can't go the bar set so high with the theme song. So let's let's tell me about it at Keva Akiva. Do you have your popcorn popular but you yes I have my popcorn. Sure allowed are Uber. Popcorn ma I guess. Is there a rule against it. Yeah Yes oh yes against it. It's not like a kosher thing it's it's a I normally don't allow eating on the PODCAST. Oh Yeah I don't eat Rob Rob told me unlike our third podcast by the way you shouldn't eat. Yeah so I just eat on my the author podcast. Yeah I I've heard e- AKIVA eat on other podcasts. That I'm not recently not several years. Not Yeah for. I'm not the only person that doesn't like it well. I'm not all anyway either but I'm not allowed to either. I sneak in my part popcorn here anyway. So all right. Tell me about it out. Zebra not this podcast. You run the treadmill this morning. Yes I did just about hour ago. Okay Slightly Kiva T.. Bird is yeah Q.. Siebert it's like a a starting pitcher that's had like too many days off that she had high like run a couple of miles on the treadmill before she does a podcast. She doesn't like come in too strong. Yeah eight days rest for a couple of rain out. Yeah I hear you. Yeah okay so we spend a wheel of ideas listeners. Right in their ideas we spin the wheel and do whatever comes up and and one of the ideas is season three episode seven. We have a fishbowl filled with ping pong balls some would say we're a few ping pong balls short of the fishbowl. But AKIVA got pick out whatever he wanted and this is the one he wanted and so we're going to talk with you about season three episode number seven from Your Season of server. And that's what we're here to do so that you re watch it or you have them all committed to memory all right so Robin Kiva. You're not gonNA believe this probably but you might. Do you know I have never gone back. I'm not I've told you this before. I have never watched any of my seasons. The the the season over for nothing no part of it so thing when you told me about this nothing I watched it when it air down in a big group of people and you know when you're watching it in a big group Akiva Akiva and rob you really. Don't catch most of it but I figure since I lived it I should know it but believe it or not I did watch it actually. I watched it several several times. I'll learn things I had no idea about. No idea about never watch. Did you watch facilities. Yeah other episodes this this one over and over again this. What are we talking about this? One right yeah. We're just GONNA absolutely. I just curious that you know you said it seemed like it was like a transformative experience for you to watch an episode. Well I'm just you know it's funny you guys when you're rob you know this when you're out there playing you only know your story your version of what's happening as I watched it. I got to see all these other players does that. I'm out there with plan now. Aren't there what they're going through and things I could have done differently but you don't know what other people are thinking are doing so I learned a lot about that so I've only watched this one. Okay all right. So season three episode of survivor aired on November number twenty. Second two thousand one and I wanted to confirm this but this was Thanksgiving night that this episode aired because of your schedule for survivor of course survivor. Africa was preempted. Because of nine eleven it was supposed to Start airing probably in September timbre. They pushed it back a few weeks. Where the first episode ended up airing on October eleventh which then pushed it back to where we never have? Survivor episodes roads going that late into the new year and ultimately into January for the Finale of survivor Africa so there was an episode on. Thanks giving giving night and I remember where I was. I was at my aunt's house. They had Thanksgiving dinner and I was alone in the basement by myself like a loser to watch this survivor. Ever episode T. Bird okay okay. I'll attic more than the basement. I was Akiva jump in and say somebody didn't so all right. Go ahead AKIVA. Now where were you that you have told this story you. Why don't you tell us commensurate break into a kindergarten classroom? I'll tell you what I watched your your whole season. I finished high school in two thousand and one and before I started college in New York. I went abroad for a year like a gap year between high school and College. And I was in I went to Israel. I was halfway between Jerusalem and Tel Aviv In a in a school and we had just watched these into survivor. So we were still really into the show and I had a friend who was really really into it and he had like the Kucherov. The Ogre Gorbachev and he would get there was you couldn't watch each TV online then. Obviously there was no Netflix. Or Hulu there was no way to watch American survivor at all. Maybe they had it on a few weeks later but we didn't have a TV in dorms. So Oh so We his mother would send vhs with random like friends of the family who'd come visit you know their kid who was Abroad brought for gap year. Or maybe someone who had a relative in Israel so we would then have a vhs too episodes at a time. I think and we had no way to watch it because we had no. V8 VCR so we had a friend who was dating a kindergarten teacher when an assistant and she had a key to her kindergarten. So we'd go when it like eleven o'clock at night T. bird and we'd take the VHS or do they show the kids like looney tunes on or whatever and we'd watched two episodes of survivor at a time and obviously. We were all rooting rooting for Ethan. No fence the t bird but we Yeah so that's what we do. We'd break into kindergarten at like eleven o'clock at night and for an hour and a half and watch on a watch you know. VHS player so Kema you've been a big survivor fan from the very beginning. Then right sure yes and you've remained a fan. You've watched every season and remained a big fan. The I stopped watching for like a few years in the middle. Oh I think got brought back by Russell hands but more. Yeah Okay Okay okay all right Farragut. That's you know it's really interesting to hear everybody's stories from the first few seasons because it was such a family thing when families would get together and and Thursday nights because remember was Thursday nights and they'd have aiming rob basement and Akiva was breaking in kindergartens to watch the show of it it was thanksgiving Thanksgiving's giving the the very next. Doing I would be playing survivor. Well no you had you know. Yeah Yeah thanksgiving. When you're on survivor? Or do they tell you a day was yeah we know it's okay. Yeah Anyway so we've never done a season. Three three episodes seven with a person who appeared on the show before Akiva. So yeah. I feel. We're in uncharted waters. Yeah I almost. There's almost so much to get due to I I'd love to hear what tbirds may do. You want to explain the episode in like Roques for the people won't listen and then I'd love your tbirds like big takeaways. Yeah I do want to say I just like to come full circle. Of course that This season three episodes of and of course features T. Bird but also Ethan's on is in this episode and then also spoiler alert alert. We go onto win survivor Africa and then is also going to be back for the upcoming season of survivor which is going to kick off on Wednesday night. But Ethan's on on also that has some connection to this podcast Akiva and not just that you and your friends were rooting for him. While first of all Ethan's on his run at least one marathon with Chester's gestures brother isn't that in connection. No no that way back when when we did the very first season three episode seven episode. One of Robin Icke. Hod cast perfect strangers. I I got an email from our good friend. Ethan's on who said Hey. I'm friends with Mark Linn Baker. Do you want me to see if I can get him for the podcast. Yeah we're still waiting on. I believe he did not reply. Confronts was that balcony or the other guy the normal guy. Okay Okay did you watch that perfect strangers. No Oh okay I know. I can't add much much to that. That okay all right. So T. bird I rather than us go through the episode beat by beat I mean what do you want you. Did you see in this episode season just for people who didn't watch episode it's the merge of survivor Africa so the two tribes going to become one we're GONNA end up merging at the immunity challenge and Immunity Challenge Orange which T.. Bird is going to win and outlast a man named Clarence Black. Who is going to then go on to the person voted off in this episode taper? What were some of the standout things for you as you went back and watch this? Okay so Robin Kiva especially rob. Do you really want me to just take off with. Let's so I mean you just WanNa take off with this. You take off and then we'll pause and drill down on things we want to hear more about so Akiva Akiva. You could interrupt me rob will do it. Make sure you stop me at any time if I just go off on a tangent never interrupted someone before so I'm not going to start now. You say that now right rob okay. That's right this is what I thought so from the first what from the first time I watched it which was a few days ago I never realized that the environment the surroundings surroundings were so amazing. Amazing I never noticed. I mean what I watched it back you. They showed the elephants how close they weren't aroma in the wildlife was so beautiful. And you would think that I would have noticed that while plan but with urine the game you're into the game and we were locked in that little small Boma which you couldn't get away to talk or to strategize with anybody so watching it back got thought. Wow what a beautiful location to shoot survivor. You would think would have already knew that already knew that but burs that and then also realized what a great cast what a cast. A diverse diverse diverse cast that as I watched it and I so all these people now differently than when I was out there playing with them but watching it back I thought what a great cast that they threw together out there and how we worked together or didn't work together. It seemed like it was just a really really good cast. So those are the two things that I really noticed that you would have thought I what are realized before twenty years later but near it is. There's that all right so so clearance when you hear me talk about Clarence you'll hear me say. CB Yup that's always what. I called him but I didn't realize that they you know they wanted Clarence gone and right when they were doing when we were doing the the challenge challenge in clarice was talking to me and he was looked like he was signing and talking to his try mace over to the side that looked like they were totally blowing him off like they were. Yeah they were waving back to like. Hey Hey and I'm like what he's like singling to them like like five like five four and there's like waving. Hi I you know I yeah. I didn't see him son into the at all. I couldn't see that from my angle and so I didn't realize that they were like literally you basically ignoring him. So I didn't know that but I'll tell you what I did. No I did no I was say or I felt like I was safe if I had gotten down but I knew frank was not safe. I knew that they were gonNA gun. Frank R is pretty sure on it but I didn't realize until I heard Kelley and Mama Cam talking okay. I think Kelly told Momma Kim that frank done like women he can't be on the jury So if it hadn't been if CB had a won that challenge frank rank would have been. The one voted out which would completely changed my whole game because frank was my one and only alliance that was that was left from the store so so that was important to keep him in. And I didn't realize how much frank I selected himself the whole entire Tom and and again. That's my only ally it so I was like I'll come off frank him talking about the branch. What is budget causal okay? Let's drill down on that. A big segment of the episode is. They are explaining to frank. Frank Garrison who you and I had the pleasure of talking into last summer about his time in office. He was They were talking about. They wanted to have brunch. He did not understand what Brunch is and and really seemed to not really grasp. The Con- The concept Akiva that you're familiar with branch Ri- You hate early mornings and you like Branding yes I am Brunch guy. I will say maybe it's because I keep kosher I think it was. It was a Kim who's explaining what branch twas them Kim Johnson. I know it's confusing. There's Kim's on the season I she says you know it starts off by explaining. Well you know you can have seafood or and then goes into like more. Traditional Brunch is seafood. A big part of Brunch. I didn't know that I think it depends where you go I feel like I could have like you know. I like crab legs or something like that. It depends like how from Oyster Bay. Maybe maybe maybe I imagined that I can assure you I can assure you guys wear Mama Kim. So Akiva took them so we know the difference. We Call Mama Kim. Kim Mama Kem Kem Johnson and Kim Cam power. We call little Kim Little Cam. I can assure you where Mama Cam with for Brunch. They had all kinds of seafood because she her husband's been a very successful stockbroker. And I believe now after now after. Watch it back for Kim Mama Kim. I think she was out there for the experience so I learned that kind of later as she was talking to eight. Let me just say this. Take me back to that in a minute. Rob Ga- guide me in that direction. Minute but frank frank talking about brunch. So so frank says to Tacoma Cam is brought. Is that a combination of breakfast and lunch in what is served. But just just so you guys know frank knew exactly what brunch was because later on he said he said I knew exactly what Brunch was. I was just an. I'm thinking to myself frank. Why what why? What what is that GONNA help you too? So he knew all along what branch was by the way so so yeah okay. So why was he pretending. I have no idea. I don't know it's the same reason when it had the merge feast I guess when we had the merced face and he decided he was go gather wood and you know he just what take times when he needed to be par into Paul himself in Hebron isolate himself. And you guys both know the worst absolutely the worst thing you can do on survivor is to isolate yourself into stand out out. And that's what he kept doing. I kept trying to pull him in and say frank you know He. He talks about political stuff and say Franks. Don't don't do that uh-huh but you know Pat. I got a personality of his own. That's why he was out there so I didn't realize at the time it jumping around again. You guys so. I didn't know Kenji Elegy was not wanting to be there when they were over there on the other side when she was saying he was you know lex was talking in his dad voice and he was totally weird politic and for a win and she said she would vote him out in a heartbeat. It I thought I had known that data had a little bit more to work with when I cast that vote against him but Kelly was so funny talking about Frank when we merged She was saying something about that. What does she say? Do you remember what she was. Kelly was saying about Frank. I'm it was so good. It was so good just talking about how frank such a loner he I think she said something he was. He was Socially that that most that largely Of A large section of the population is socially inept I think is what Keleti Elegy said. There are prescription drugs to counter act that and he should be on them about FRY. She's Kelsey Chelsea is queen of the one liners. I mean she's quick she's sharp she's smart. It's really unfortunate that we didn't see her in the game longer cashew would add it quite a bit of color and humor and wit to the game but anyway but that's what I made. Frank just kept isolating themselves so but he would have been the first one gone if CB had won immunity. One gone all right. Let's hear a little bit about at this immunity challenge because I was really impressed. Ebert you went onto win up there over six hours with your arms straight up in the air AKIVA. Could you sit in the chair. Six hours without falling asleep well falling asleep. I thought you just standard I sit in the chair. That's the only we think. The jacket win is like most time spent on the computer without getting up. This was incredibly impressive by a lot. I think the final four lasted well over three hours so it was pretty amazing. Yeah but I'd have to imagine You really need to want it to just stand up there for six hours. Bird right This is a challenge that you know. We still see this on survivor. From time to the time the old you know stand there with your arm up in the air and then your arms attached to a string that has the bucket of water and we had never seen it before this is the first time that they ultimately execute this challenge and look at. Ut Bird you made history thank you. Hi Rob this is where I kept thinking. Well kept thinking a couple of things. The first thing I was thinking is I can't come down or Franks gone and that's one more closer to me being gone and then I kept thinking I was trying just to stay motivated because it got to be a little bit challenging. I kept thinking about my children tolerant. Eliahu at the Tom. Tom Tower was five. Elliot's three so I just kept thinking about them watching this back but you know what's funny about that by right arm love to things as kind of interesting about that first of all when we went up to them to set the challenge up the whoever the guy is an Robin Akiva I wish Sir I wish I knew who this guy was because it was a guy. A GAL production came over to set my arm up and I was. I had my left arm in the to put in the slaying or whatever it was and this young young guy said. Are you sure you want to use your left hand goes don't you WANNA don't you normally use your right hand. I'm like yeah he goes. You Might WanNA use your right hand so with that being said if he had said that I had used my left arm that you know I'm sure it may have been a different outcome. So kinda interesting to Mitch and that and another thing. The next day I had no absolutely no uh-huh filling in my right arm for several days. I couldn't lift it. I couldn't even looked it up and I didn't. I didn't tell a soul not a soul just because I thought again anything that separates you or makes you look weak. Of course you don't want to look strong either but I figured it forty. I wasn't GonNa look that that strong but I knew I didn't want to let them know that I did not have the use of my right arm because it took several days for it to to to handle. I guess which I never even thought about that so I thought that was kind of interesting. I mean it was incredible. I mean six hours in one position is you know love very taxing not surprise. That my Sevilla's yeah HEO alright so Tiba came down to you and Clarence to ultimately intimately win this immunity and you guys were trying to talk it through and it came down to a game of rock paper scissors scissors. Yes okay so rock paper scissors. Clair's the one that had Mitch rock paper scissors earlier earlier and it was too early. Committed to jump into that yet but then when he thought only mentioned it and maybe I had a chance to think about it after he I mentioned it which was after maybe like three or four hours. I can't really remember. It seems like I've tried to think because it seems like lex eighth and was the last one that came down. Akiva your legs your eighth. When was the last one to come down at like three a little over three and a half hours eighth and eighth and came down? I think lex made it to little over three hours. I but so I think after that win Clarence I mentioned it a little before four hours and I remember thinking okay if I give into this a little bit lighter. CBS is such a manly man. I just figured he would do. What do Rock saw about it before. I even did it with him. Because he's I know that may not matter but clearances manly man so off thicker Clarence is going to do rock scissors paper. So so what when he did so. Rock is the most masculine of rock paper scissors. Then what's second most guy. I don't know okay. So what's what's the most feminine of the three. I would say feminine but we snaps Filming Scissors our site scissors I would say would be more feminine. May Be because you think about do. That's the question you cut flowers. You use them in the kitchen and the office more kind of May they may. I don't know that's crazy but definitely the rock a man you know I wonder if clarence the strategy also but it paid off I mean did you think at the time like Oh this could be a million dollar rock paper scissors game right here. No I wasn't thinking I was only actually thinking in a day ahead because you know I noticed people even nowadays when they play up. They get all excited when something really good comes their way or even for example example. Let's I saw. Let's do that really early own. I think it was like day. Eighteen or day I want to say. Eighteen LEX was all excited. I think he said he said we're locked and loaded and all we have to do is this and that as I've watched that back up thinking when you're talking like bad it it may nineteen th. That wouldn't would not be my strength was not my strategy. It wouldn't be at again. You have to take it day day by day by day so no I did not think they had all I was looking at as I win. This frank stays probably and then I'll take it the next day and see what happens next so no. I wasn't thinking that way because I knew I was at a disadvantage from the minute started the game with the mature players and on the younger players being divided and my tribe. I couldn't get my try pulled together so I knew I was a disadvantage winning one immunity challenge wasn't GonNa push me to the end. I knew it was come. Be Baby Steps T-bird so you also sang tomorrow. It's all coming up tomorrow when you were up there in the endurance Prince Challenge. Did you sing lots of songs or you just saying that one song particular. That's the only one that jumped out. That was it was so I don't know if I was bored. I don't think I was born. I think I was in a lot of. I was uncomfortable at that Tom. I don't know when did I sing that. How far in was that when I say there was probably three hours? Affiliate was that far. You know what your Ashley right was only like a little over an hour into it but I just remembered I was spilling a little. Oh uncomfortable and I just did it. Just kind of distract me to just to try to block out. You know what I was doing. I guess all I can think of just jumped out okay and it was why you know it's really quiet. Everybody was sitting on the side. It was quiet and just say Mike time to break Mike out into song and then it was just that one song you sing a multiple times. That's all a sign. Do you love the movie. Eddie Eddie that was it. I like the song at the at the movies cube. But it's not a lot of the wizard of Oz Daja. Aw That's the movie I really liked. That's my favorite movies gift to pay for the rights to that. Yes they probably did right. That's probably an expensive and expensive little song you saying. They're cheaper Uber. Yeah what a shame. It was sung by me and not somebody saying it so I just. I paid a lot of money to get a really badly done version. I don't know I don't know what say you reminds me to John. No the same thing about paying for something you know they had. When we first started the game I had my braves hat? Rob Did you know I was the braves fan. AKIVA keeps a mets fan to along. You're wearing you're wearing the hat during the season right so of course I knew that okay and what not no but you know what Akiva the very first day then production told me I had to take it off why they said you. Can't you're happy okay. They said you wear your hat because we gotta gotta get. We gotta get approval from the Baseball Commission. I'm like man dogs. I really employs Akiva. Plus this is really cool because I know you have children it. It was my son's baseball cap when he was like four years old. It was that was a little biddy baseball cap like my son was four in it so I had it for the Atlanta Braves. I had my son Tyler. There was just a lot of reasons. Just a connection back home so when they had to take it off my. There's no way I'm GONNA get I'm not they're not gonNA approve me baseball commissioner. Improve me to wear this hat but the came at the next day and they said I could wear it. I had it off for about a day or maybe two days at least one day maybe two days and came back and Seneca where it's yes yes. Wait a minute I gotta do this. Let me send the floor. I gotTA keep my podcast bell on the floor because it's too loud up here. I got rules on. I got rules on my podcast. Bail rules popcorn. I got so many rules. Rob gives me. It's crazy we're we. He does write a tunnel control. Tunnel Control T. Bird so let's talk about the the emerging fees. Yeah I gotTa have total control Akiva you might say that. I'M A- most likely to throwdown rock if we play a little row shambaugh so if you know what I know no doubt no doubt so why would you. Would you really rob short. That's most masculine right. Well yeah it is but what would you throw down. Well I think scissors guard you. You know I think I'm scissors guy because I think when I play with my kids they put up papers so you always win with the scissors. s right it is crazy. If there's a strategy to all this and you know the three of us all know kids you really have to strategize these different things with your kid. uh-huh okay I face Birch feast first off. I thought you guys got hosed this was not a great merge fees t-bird oh I didn't even know what we had rackers leaves which of course I like but a lot of people. Don't love olives. I I love him but crackers cheese all in a bottle of wine soda bottle wide for a lot of women. Would I would say cheese crackers and wine and all is nice. That's that's nice. I was okay with that. Say I had anything to eat yet because remember the all the Baronne sure want something won a bunch of food. I don't know and then at the challenge. He was bringing out hamburgers and pizza. Jeff was since Clarence and none of Stepdad. I didn't get any of that food. Which is fine? I wasn't there to eat so I was happy to have the cheese and crackers with the one. That's that was perfectly bound with me. Do you know that's all I had the whole time. I was there other than I had during the I think I have some meat. What's that called a meatball sandwich? I split on me. That was yeah he did that merge feast past the Banya test. It was it a meal. Yeah that's a good question. I really wasn't paying that much attention to it but it didn't look too. I guess I like her. I was born I. I was more focused on all the food that Jeff was giving away to the people not in the in in the challenge which was pretty wild. It doesn't happen often. That was crazy. Yeah right exactly we had you know. I'm from the South and I love grits so basically what we had was maze and we had every day like like a low palmful lamaze. But did you see mays. I'm saying it wrong. You know what I'm sayin but did you say at the opening or whenever we were eating before the merge the flies that's how they swarm in settle in our food and weight just even if we were trying to knock them off they came back and landed and I know it sounds terrible but rob. You know I'm sure you've been really hungry before it. Just you just eat it so hungry. I don't know if I've been like giant flies hungry but I definitely have been under the food that flies landed on it. The land there like get buried in or anything they just ashland on it and then take off again but still you start thinking about flaws and in Africa and all that you start but you don't really think about it because it's good to think about it but yeah but anyway demerged face was kind of small but at that time I was happy just to get something I was just to make the merged because it should have already been voted out. They were going to vote me out earlier than that merged was so I was happy to be there. My San Brewery was going to vote me out if Linda Spencer hadn't gone on Lindsey only. It was me they already T.. Bird is going to be you because we don't want you to be part of the merged because when you go to the merge the other side's GonNa like you in the course I would've jumped over to the White House. I was in a hot mess over there. So yeah I was the next one to go so I was so happy to be there at that merge taste. I didn't care what they serve all right. So you guys have emerged feast and then you guys start playing some games. There's some suggestion of hey truth or dare and then you guys play a game called. Never have I ever I never I never never I never I never Akiva d'Europe play this game. Hey I think I probably in highschool or something. Yeah okay not recently. Yeah this is the IT's game over. Yeah this is. This is a sleepover. This is what Allie lash wanted us to do. You just do stupid. Okay yes alley Lascher. is she a dollar. The best has loved best. Let her lover here all right so so Akiva do you remember what started it off and since you're paying almost see if you remember or what eighth and sad that he had never done Keva. Did you watch just over again like I did I did. Of course I did watch it again. Ethan set. I thought he thinks vincit something like weirdly generic. Now I'm blanking on. What Ethan said was never say never walked through a crowd of people naked? Oh yeah that's kind of that's kind of random house pro. Hold on a minute. Why he said something like he's never walked in a crowd have naked or something? Okay now all right test you guys again now. The next thing was big Tom what Tom said that he never her had been turned on by a fifty six year old woman. That's right yes and I think he was talking about. I think he was talking about this issue. Sixty six yeah. She's fifty six so he's talking. Yeah right so and then from there it was brandon and I know yeah we both we all remember what brand remind us. What did he say? Well random okay. So I've ever overheads from the airplane. Well what happened was what happened was is I had so clearly. I had had some blonde own empty stomach hammock twenty it just because I can assure you that would have never jumped out. If I hadn't had one on it'd be stomach. I'm just telling you it would not have for sure for sure I would have kept it to myself because I would have. But as soon as brain said I've never had sex on a airplane. I immediately without even skip having a Bait said I have that was that was that was it you were lying and make and making that up so that the younger people would think that you were more a wild wild and crazy. Yeah yeah that's exactly exactly. Why Senate thank you rob up thank you? That's exactly no. It wasn't a true story. You were just trying to fit in with the with the cool kids just wanted to fit it has. That's exactly right because I knew I knew from the START I was already separated from the young people immature paypal so I knew I had to change my ways when I search yes something. 'cause I'm hearing this I get here last night. Make the merge or is it emerged or merger they stop call it the merger in two thousand and two or three right rob. Yeah I haven't heard it called the merger in a while. Yeah probably by all stars that was that I just think the lexicon honoring Mike. No Pun intended has advanced a lot on survivor and some of the things they said. Are you know. And then there was one other big reveal that came up there was one other big reveal that came up in never have I never We heard from frank that yeah. Yeah Yeah Yeah as never broken can the honor of a handshake. Yes and you know what what they actually you know what I already knew that about. Frank Frank was the solid walked in. He told you he was locked in. He's locked in well. I would have thought that lex would really gravitated toward frank because because LEX was control on the show and trying to make all these alliances and they actually flashed over two legs after Franks said that and of course lex is very intelligent. Very intelligent no I. I'm surprised that that didn't grab them. Grab onto frank a little tire knowing. Oh and he would have him solid. Because you know brandon actually kind of latched on a little bit to brandon and Brandon was all over the place random was all over the place. No Yeah it was interesting said that you know I thought somebody would especially lex would have been the one that jump on. That already. Knew that that's why I knew I couldn't let Frank Go. Yeah right right but as far as I understand it that you and frank. I think we're seeing more as like guys that were maybe in big. Tom's uh-huh pocket like in terms of like that lex looked at win. If there was going to be some sort of a war between LEX big Tommy thin that may be you and frank were more guys that would be in. The big. Tom Camp and Brandon was his Yeah we never he. LEX May have seen it that way. I I think frank had been a little bit of a talk with big talk but we never got. You know lex big. Tom And ate them were so oh dialed in their toward. They didn't really change until the very very end when lex kept winning all that all the challenges that went. Ethan you mama account talking to eat. Then that's when Mama. Kelly said he's GonNa win this thing. He's GonNa win these challenges. And that's when I realized that Mama Cam was had built such a friendship with Ethan. I think she was just helping because I think she had such a friendship with him. But they really didn't break apart until lex kept winning winning winning winning winning winning winning in winning winning winning winning winning winning Say winning fifty stopped. Yes we welcome to view yes. Okay okay sorry sorry yeah okay. Do you like the view you know. TV Fan okay. I don't like how they talk all over each other. I know I know I know I do that. Rob I know I'd do that. AKIVA I do that. But they're talking all over each other and their Cadillac. What I've been doing okay? All right so we all particularly Frank Inc Ends up political for me. Frank ends up sort of like a mirroring. The elephant behavior. Do you think the elephant even cared about what frank was doing. I don't know I the second the second time I watched it. I kinda thought wait a min- they don't look like they've caught in saint there for a minute but but again when frank was doing the elephant motion and again he was he stayed away he stayed out of the. Boma Boma Allot doing stuff like that and I kept thinking frying. Don't don't do that. Just just don't do that so fried frank's big hunt a hunter and we couldn't hunt which was a really thing. That hurt definitely hurt us because if we could a hundred handed out there in the Shaba reserved which we couldn't because it was a reserve frank would've brought a whole line already. Oh those elephants elephants were locked out what it changed his game. Yeah Yeah Yes yes they were. All Right T. bird in the lead up to tribal council in this episode. Yeah I guess the main thing was you know what I watched lex as Kelly. Kelly Gee said grandmaster lex decided basically lex decided it was gonna be Sebei going and he decided he wanted talk to him and demand. You know I think even like said to. CB We've all decided well. I wasn't in all that. We all decided part because I I didn't know anything about anything I didn't know there was tension between Kelly and let X. I didn't know any of that if I had played on that with Kelly. G saw Oh I just thought it was interesting. Again how lex continued to tell everybody out of even Mama Kim said you know I don't like being told old you know what to do or how to vote. I don't know if he's trying to trick us but he wasn't. He was just literally running the show and was trying to play a straight honest getting by telling CB he. I was going which I think you guys. We all know. That's not the best thing to do is give somebody heads up there even in my opinion but anyway but twain may talent. CB wouldn't vote against him because he asked me not to and me knowing that I wasn't GonNa have lex tells them. Beware to the Alliance and already knew. I was totally so far outside of his alliance that that wasn't GonNa happen either so I knew going in but I didn't tell frank when I was doing because I thought I don't know I can't tell I don't try to tell anybody yet what I'm doing because you know you've got to be careful with that too because you don't know who you can trust and I felt like ACA trust right. I didn't want Frank. All of a sudden decided he was going to be all honest and come out and say yeah. Cheaper voted for you elect. So that's how that kind of started played out. Yeah okay then ultimately your friend Clarence was going to go home. You would not cast a vote for him that how. How did you decide it? I was going to be lax for the for the one. Vote just awful. What Clarence was GONNA do? Oh no no no no because lex is the biggest threat out there. He was the one he was Kryptonite. he was the only one ply so hard that that I knew I had to get him out of there into in order to advance. Okay he was the only one that that that that I thought was the threat was LEX and he was he was he. He ran the show He. He was great at challenges. Hey guys did you even realize which I know you did did. Do you realize when we were trying to come up with our tribe name Moto Mogae. Mogae Moto Mati Ji Magic whatever. Whatever that is our tribe name to you know that was all ex X.? Men Yeah that was all coming up with that but because hey news why healy. He studied Swahili before when he knew it was going to be an Africa. Because he's I'm telling you he's so smart. He studied Swat Haley. which is another reason? Need a lighter on he won that crossword game That the words that were in Swat Haley because he knew Swahili so again from the very beginning from me once we merged LEX was the only threat in my opinion right. What what is your opinion of that? I think at a later season it would have been so glaring to guys. You would've probably voted him out at basically at the merge ROB CA this agree but he was just like playing the game on a higher level than a lot of the people there and you know more of a modern modern survivor game. But yeah you're right. You know what. That's a good point more of a modern survivor definitely. But you know Akiva you know all they strong personalities out there play at. I mean everybody's got their strong personalities in different directions different ways. Maybe you don't see it like Kelly g look how she's what she's done in her. I'm it's just a very strong personality so handy and they're controlling telling people what to do you I know. Did he play differently. All Stars Rob. Did you notice. Did that too didn't he. Yeah I think it's I was never ever on tribe with lax but I think that he was you know kind of telling his group of people what to do as they were getting in. You know down down in the numbers and then felt like that. He could work with Rob Because of their relationship and that did not turn out to be the case. Yeah that didn't turn out. Well well another thing like I said you know if well in Africa it was he was very strong and everybody just did it. I kept thinking to myself. Why is everybody doing what he says? Not One person's doing anything differently. Your nobody and I couldn't understand that but like I said for watching college he talk about lax and how she would vote off in in a heartbeat. You know again if these are facts that if you knew at the time you could play with those facts but didn't hatem so okay. It Michigan any of the questions for season three episode seven days. Much else to get to. Yeah we've got to get to okay all right. So T. bird yeah. I know that you were recently. A part of our mask survivor. Are you familiar with the yes. That was rob. I love doing that. Okay so let me just tell you something you already know this. So sure helped me do it. Well she didn't help me do it. She basically did it for me. 'cause you know what you're dealing with here and it was so cute so we. We decided to go with Software Africa. We didn't know that the song was played before the clues. We thought the clues would come out before the are we would have done a different. That song okay No problem it was perfect. Don't sweat it all right. But he buries me with the one-off know okay well. The one-off was created by our own. Josh Wiggle her and we all do and it's a weekly song parody contests of what the listeners Send in to sort of celebrate each week of survivor driver and so a Kiva thought it might be a fun idea to reach out to some Wanda offers to see if they might be able to contribute something as as we took a look back to season three episode seven of survivor. What do you think of that? Okay I'm ready all right. What do you want to set up here? Well we got we have one first and then one song and one offers sentenced to song all right so first step here comes a legend of the wand off. It's corey be with a song from season. Three episode seven of survivor ever to what is Karadzic. intersocial strict. Not like all the rest. Modo Mogae tribe is. Let's get off our chest build him in l.. Let him speak again. I never played. I never know. Let's see what she says. I've never broken the honor of a handshake just golden rule. I was brought. Stop It. Everybody we Tales arm tales. Until it. kind of nervous. Make your rhythm start to serve this game acquired the day. That's me. I'm so uncharted. Working hard on Sir Rocket Only elephant-skin. Stop it no. I can't stop watching him while I'm telling drop it. Read read by a arterials arm tells ooh arm tales. Mike All right that was a wanda from CR Eastern. Yeah yeah go corey. Be Right gory. Mrs Mrs Russell Wilson Sign. Yeah okay all right and then we have another one. Offer participated in the celebration of season. Three episode seven Let's bring Lynn. Yes pick the best one you guys are you picking on. I did tell the people who are not going to judge you. But you're you can bird in Europe. I know we're not gonNA judge them there. That was great. I'm sure the next justice. Great all right here is a one-off golf legend. Dj Lebel Klein has another song from season. Three episode seven many wand off in three three to back told police. What is incredible credible job? Frank Garrison getting so much love on wand off on that Josh Wigley would you think of that. Ah Ah I laugh. Laugh Kid Rob. That was. Yeah that was from Holloway. Yes but those were about frank garrison wait so so you guys are provided those. I love that second one equally as well. It was just so short but when I I hear that music I think Chris Catan Farrell Taylor knuckleheads that I love Logo Fair. I love Chris into Yes yes. He's all right Stan right here another one. This is Dj Lebel Kline Down the birds ladling sharing and we learned so now they're a Burn in the wall now St Burn. Thank Oh my goodness that sounded like exactly line. We'll from America. No it sounds just like big Tom. Perfect for and DJ Lebel Kline was going for that. Not Listen to the PODCAST. Did Not know that you had made that story. Very up to fit in with the younger survivors. Yeah he didn't know beverly made that up. Okay who's that from Lincoln skinner. Yes inert yeah. That's that's what it says. America Dj Lavelle Clydes jailable client alright. T-bird a we had so much fun. Going through season. Three episode said Seven of survivor with you. Ray Forgetting Nice for getting me to watch it because you watch more no white long on why not already know the outcome. You like this one well Rob Robbie Rob. You're going to understand this completely exactly even Emma. You might as well you might to. I like to win as I didn't win. I wanted to win and I and I thought I could win. I actually thought I could win. And I didn't so when I watch it every now especially when I see things like watching it. How if I talked to Kelly early or how Brandon? Didn't even want Lindsey out there. He was tired of her. I see things that make me think Me and you know you got really second. Guess but you learn things. You didn't no. That would have helped her gameplay to issue of the game so no I will watch out. Kids will one day but they don't even have an interest in either Emma husband. He wasn't watching it. I don't think he has an interesting reader. Yeah well I can understand why after all the healthy us to give us to get get you on these tests and you might be over civil ever. Yeah you gotta get there. Yeah okay sure are you pumped up for season. Forty though t-bird yes I am. I think it's GonNa be Great. It's going to be great great great. It'll be really good okay. I don't know I mean are you. Are you AKIVA Akiva. uh-huh right here for you. I love you and I appreciate the fact that you are looking honest to tell me that you're pulling for eighth and for season three. I love that that you told me that goes I mean. He's cool as ever a love him now. Season Forty is your winner. Pick for twenty of the twenty people is Ethan who you are pulling for once again. No He's not pick. He hasn't and played in a long time. I mean he's not. I'm rooting for either equally as much as you did. Yeah he's Great. He's a wonderful guy. No probably I mean. I'm rooting for him. I definitely I guess I'd probably read for Tyson the most. I don't know I okay. Well That's interesting rob because I know who I I know how do I do. I know who will never know all just going to say. Did you think that Akiva out of these twenty players. I just disfigured. Says he had such a strong connection with Ethan from season three that he would probably be pulling for him to win. But then it's okay that you're not no you still like him of course but that's who he would be pulling for. I mean if you've got US Mark Linn Baker Okay. Are you pulling for who you plan for Rondo. I mean sea bird. I have professional. I I would say Tyson is is my closest friend in real life out of this grew. Oh I didn't know that Akiva. So are you friends with Tyson. Also no idea who I am never heard heard of me. I don't believe that is that true. It's like rob as two separate. Yeah Roberts two separate podcast families so rob does a weekly podcast with Tyson. And and he does a weekly podcast with Akiva And never the Twain shall meet The two worlds show collide. They need to. Yeah let's we. We can figure this out another time we are here. What are we going keeps interviewing here you I I know royalty into talk with you and you're like hey where's Tyson? Why why is enticing here? I've got let's say that. Yeah I brought. It brought it up because these must be satisfied that I brought t-bird in for I'm Robert Very satisfied. I feel bad. We're wasting her time at this point I makeba so it's interesting that you're worlds have never met. You've not met but you're still pulling for him to win. That's who you want to win the character television to me. Honestly your heater. I'm not a player hater. There's you know I hope I hope. Twenty them when you grow season going to unclean. Rit Bernie night. This was so much fun getting to go through all this with you. Yes thank you for forcing me. You Force me to watch season season three number seven that I had seasons I got it. I enjoyed it. I actually enjoyed it so thank you thank you so anyway check out no. Hopefully we'll be able to talk T- after season forty we'll come back in and was and yeah I've been working on some. You know about that. Rob Yes I know I know. Hopefully you birds working hard all right. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Appreciate IT ROB Akiva. Thank you so much. I look forward to meeting you in the future giving you absolutely talk. Yeah Yeah Tibor. Thanks for being such a good sport. Art Akiva there you have it. There was a T. Bird Cooper. We've got some more to get to you here today but let me just quickly Thank our sponsor for this episode of the PODCAST. Those are our friends over at. CBS All access. Who wanted to tell tell you about tell me a story over on? 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What if we did lightning round versions of them in a segment? I'll call a week of RPM RPM ten minutes a week of RJ. That sounds perfect for me. Yes yes okay. Let's see if we could get it in that ten minute span. Let's see if we could do try. Okay so what do you. What do you have coming up for us? So we just watched the episode and Clarence black he lost and we WANNA know why Clarence lost. So what about listening to a little bit of the what would what would it be like in two thousand and one if David Bloomberg Jessica lease recorded an episode love. Why Clarence lost? If you you're fueling teething Jessica turn it around and Greg you saying this is what black they need these Voice of an angel. Welcome to a special edition of why blank lost. I'm I'm David Bloomberg and today. My Co host Jessica Lewis going back to November two thousand one when Clarence lost after that. Tricky T. Bird beat him at rock paper scissors. Let's take a quick look back based I'm a version of my rules from the time what African survivors should have learned. Clarence try this game in plot. But he just wasn't any good at it because nobody trusted him and since he was doing so poorly at scheming he did it a bit too much which didn't help us credibility problems. It might not have mattered anyway but maybe if he had stuck with a couple of people he might have had a chance back then. The seventh rule used to note the providing food wins allies. Obviously taking food was the opposite when he ate the canned beans without permission early on and then double dipped into the chairs throughout the game. We saw him talk obsess about food more than any other player which negatively affect the other's opinions of him and of course he was a big threat to an individual challenges which nobody. Nobody wanted it because he wasn't anyone's Alliance Clarence almost immediately showed. He could not be trusted. Yes he blew a chance of immunity by his game of rock paper scissors but he probably figured a fifty fifty chance was was his best. Shot Against T. Bird. He was too strong to keep around. And to untrustworthy to be in an alliance and that is why Clarence lost. Wow Oh wow okay. Well I've I've got a whole new understanding of the whole thing. Yeah that's good. Yeah every podcast. Sixty seconds are up Free up a lot of my day. Yeah it would be good like what if we because I did email. These people won't be like and we'll see who kept two and who didn't I emailed people and I said Ed like let's try and keep this under sixty seconds because we're doing a week Var. HP and ten minutes. Let's see if notorious Rules follower Jordan Kayla Who I will will be joining on his podcast? Forty one with you Again he wants to tell you what happened this week in survivor history. Even though there isn't much survivor history before this week's episode seven all right. Let's see what he has to see. What Jordan has to say? Well I didn't think I'd have to start writing Trivia questions a week before before survivor. Forty started but here we are and we're going all the way back to survivor. The Australian outback. The episode was called. Trust no one from February eighth two thousand one in nineteen years ago. Saturday right after Maryland. Mad Dog her she became the third person voted out. To whom did she give her mad. Dog Hat was it. A amber breakage Urkish Be Tina Wesson see CAL AKA cow gleason or d the king cake. Baby Akiva you had to know that fake choice. The answer was coming. I'm so confused. What Week in survivor history are we going back to? It doesn't make any sense right because season season. Three aligns with season one right now because season one was on in the summer. Oh Yea November there is no. There was never a premium in in survivor. History question did not know how his own show where I don't know because it always not something. That's that's a lined up with like on that week just four years ago like he doesn't he doesn't know Yeah No. He's better at math does he. Not Know how the month's work he should have done like this weekend survivor. Future her. Yeah that would have been funny. Yeah like twiss you know the answer. Well we actually played it and I've already forgot. Yes okay got one but mad. Dog gives her hat to one of the season forty contests since it was amber He also Put something about who theresa and Clarence followed. I on so here we go got it. We got to get moving and the correct the answer is a amber burke who were about to see back for winners at war. Don't know she'll be wearing her mad dog hat. But in retrospect maybe she would have preferred. What goes wombats hat? Maybe maybe okay all right. What else do you have for us on cookie? Well so far everybody I believe heard from has been an American. Let's go across the pond as they say way across central. Probably all the ponds. Let's let's see what survivor global has to say about this episode. Okay what does what did Shannon gusts have. I have to say about this episode. Two three were played the theme songs for Thirty Second Clips. In in. What all right? Nick it is time for the Chivvy. Who Do you think she gets three points this week? It's a tough one Ourika American. I'M GONNA give my three to t-bird she's just she was going to go home and her performance in that challenge was so great even to go down to rock paper. Mrs Like this is I think the image of her like kissing up to the sky will be something that sticks with survivor fans vs on three points. Anyway she doesn't win the challenge they get rid of Clarence and I feel like he would have been a really big threat. Clearances that kind of play that like you know if the show lost beyond beyond three seasons I can see them bring him back. Maybe for like an old stars maybe like a second chance thing like I reckon clarence. He's going to be like one. The biggest play is one of the biggest returning players that we have a C. I could see that the point like one day maybe even like a giant statue could be erected to clarence so I think she did really ought to get him out of that. I don't really quite sure this evens merge butyl maybe next season's yeah one of them. Okay Wow Nick Danza. One of the keys favorites survivors was my favorite Australians around without question. who was the guest On survivor global recorded in two thousand one recorded during the time in the episode. It seemed like they were unaware of any survivor. Pass this week by the way behind the scenes. I did ask Matt Liguori who writes powering for your websites if he would power rank everyone left but just in the order that they end up winning which I thought would be funny and play it straight but I we didn't. Yeah okay. I mean I don't know how to a blog is gonNA play on a podcast but listen Malagueta he's electric. You would've figured out anything so we already thought that okay anything for Yeah Alec Original Glory. We call them So we did the wand off so we heard three one dollars there. Thanks to those guys. Let's do one more. How are great? A friend's been on this podcast. Many Times Mike Bloom Liana bars okay. Let's see what was going on in the BNB for season three episode number seven of survivor. Hi Hi everybody. I'm open to the RA BNB for episode seven of survivor Africa. My name is Mike Bloom here to break down an episode of survivor like we do each each and every week here on the BNB with some tried and true fun and Games. I'm of course joined by my co host Liana. Boris Leon if you were a brunch. What kind of Brench would you be? wait let me take awhile gas because I'm not sure I know what brunch means. Is it a combination of breakfast and lunch. it's you're you're right on the money there unlike clarence do not get any money in this episode. You're right on the money so sad. I win the first game right. Exactly you won the first game but we have a game to turn onto our intrepid listeners. Today Rob Susser Dino and Theresa T-bird Cooper of survivor Africa fame. We have a BNB game for you. And it's a fairly new found on game we've done on the B. B. But we're talking about survivor Africa so we have turned to the lovely reviewers on the website Amazon dot com for this quickey quickey game. We're going to read out four reviews of survivor Africa on Amazon. Dot Com. Three of these are from Real Amazon dot com users Zurve and one of them is fake is up to you to put your heads together and guess which is the Fake Review Liana. You have spent many a week creating fake reviews getting into the minds of these casuals. Do we consider Amazon people. casuals I think so. I don't know it's a terrible place to being very excited to be out of the minds of the casual of yours but I think we've cooked up a pretty good review here so I'm excited to see if we can stop y'all okay so again I'm reading full reviews here. Three real one is fake guests. The fake here we go. Hey reviews titled True Survival at its best a real survivor. Trek afire must be kept at night to ward off the lions and to stay on watch at all times during the night to make sure this happens. Keep around those who can carry the most water from the spring to the camp. As the tribe shrinks the lions take notice and stock the camp more people who flipped alliances there's parentheses double talk didn't seem to farewell in season three like in later seasons where it became an art honesty integrity and respect for other people seemed to take a much a bigger role in season three compared to say survivor Micronesia parentheses season sixteen for treating people like dirt get celebrated. This is real survival. Enjoy review be titled. If I could give this season six starts six. I've I've been watching survivor since the beginning and let me tell you this season is what it's all about. The castaways are real salt of the earth. People truly really tested on what it means to survive between dealing with all of those Deng dropping elephants lions and hunting for food dot dot dot. They didn't have to play like all the criminal people backstabbing throwing idols and spying on people. Because they knew what this game meant honor at its best. The beautiful African Savanna is an added. Bonus reviews see titled Best Survivor Season Hands Down Survivor. Africa is the best season living in the middle of a desert with wild animals. Stocking you dot dot dot having to dig out a well and having elephants drop loads right in front of your wealth in the same water dot dot dot no water challenges except the bucket over your head. Dot Dot dot dot strategy was not evil evil but intelligent dot dot dot dot the castle as were real not wanting to be on TV or looking for a career in TV or modeling DOT DOT dot. Jeff wasn't Bo talks up but actually cute dot dot dot wasn't other where to water and they had to make their entertainment it wasn't handed to them. Dot Dot dot season three was the best season review de titled. What a long strange trip? It's been it's a little like being on safari with the cast of the road warrior. The scenery of African. It's wild. Inhabitants is stunning leading the competitions true to the location and there was no question that this group of people were roughing it. What with elephants defecating in their water source lion stocking them in the night and then they're tried made just being themselves? Good Times Rob. T-bird I guess which is the fake review more caper tbirds Gum. Yeah all right. We're cooking with TV. What do you the answer? I don't think it is up to you. Oh Man I'll say was see. Play the second audio please rob okay. I'm sorry so close but the correct answer was B. Two B. It'd be Vica. Give this season six star. I would because that's what I wrote. And that's tell I feel and because you lost the game unfortunately you'll have to make sure that Mike and Leon get the cameo talking about how Robin Akiva are dumb idiots see. It's because they alone do we owe them something sorely or owed to them a couple of months back story. Forget the better breaks. Yeah we we owe them a cameo won't thank you so much much for listening to the BBC. A question of the week. What song would you play during an endurance competition to keep your spirits? Lifted days again for listening to the bean be. We'll check you out at your next stay. So we when we lost game night. We're supposed to get a cameo from Aiken Liana. I duNNo. I forgot about this. I don't know we need somebody that keeps track of our punishments in what we only the Apple. Yeah Ed that will America add that to the document so I so I know what people we're not we haven't been ditching then. We just forgot but we could get them a cameo who getting the McKinley. If I of we'll figure it out today all right well Kiva that you you did a great job of recruiting all of these pre free recorded segments for for this episode of the podcast. I really feel like we have blown through a week of RJ in in Just under a few hours so thank you. Thank you for for that but I think I may have the final surprise surprise for you. We're trying to think. BNB why X.. Lost Wanda off. I can't think of anything because I'm fish back. I may may have scored this week's exit interview. That's right joining us on the line. Akiva is the man Dan who was voted out at this tribal council that we watched back in season. Three episode seven to talk about getting voted Out of survivor Africa. Clarence black. Is here Clarence. Good Morning Claritin. We have a question for you at that tribal council that you went to Clarence Clarence. Could you tell us was that a blindside or did you know that you were going to be the person going home. Lose this match what are you doing clarence. I'm so sorry I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry to bother you with this doing. You're this is a thing where we spin a wheel and then we'll talk about like an old show and I. I thought that we could just be on the air. You got me on a dumb. You gotTa Damn Yeah but you want to talk about survivor. Yeah yeah like the all old stuff. Yeah we destroy somebody somebody gale crater the podcast. Yeah Yeah so we give away pockets giveaway pocket. Can you get away. Yeah giving away like you like you can go to McDonalds order number one l.. Let me get a podcast dig bacchus. Yeah let me get this straight you. This is legit. No bullshit what you do for a living like this is what you do. You pay your bills with this shit. Yeah so you were like. Hey let's talk about survivor wasn't why a Yo. Hey let me catch up with my do like you literally have to make a car payment off of what I say. Yes the dumbest shit ever are. Yeah the thoughts. Let me let me let me go back into the rolodex of night. Twenty years ago. Yeah no it it also how you doing clarence. I'm good. I'm good man I'm I'm Livin life from I'm I'm very blessed. I get started our country and You know yet for that in about even a damn podcast is pretty. That's pretty cool. That white privilege is working out for you. It just giving away podcasts. I'm probably GONNA go to Iraq and you're GONNA do a pack. Living take did not even like applied. That's not fucking work at Wendy's dealership profanity just like you get the whitest thing I've ever heard in my life so I thought talk about. Yeah this what's new with you clarence what do we we need to talk about. Hey no I yeah I mean Damn I'm I'm an old man now. I'm trying to recall what I did. Twenty years ago asked me about ensure on a year you legitimately. I can't believe they pay you. Ask People what they did twenty years ago like actual somebody said you say yeah. Hey listen listen pay me. This is what I'm GonNa do for a living and I'm going to ask people what they did twenty years ago sometimes only sometimes and then you're doing they were like Kiva. Yeah Akiva like initiatives real name. It's not like a fucking codename Heart Matt Right. This is a heart medication. Like some Shitty this seriously take your Akiba. You have high blood pressure new from Merck the key so let me get this straight. So let's no this is let me guess. Akiba persue game. Let's let's play a game called radar you so Cuba now. uh-huh theoretically theoretically. Yeah I WANNA lean toward one of my people one of the one of the darker people but like nothing's opens telling me and the boys that you're you're you're straight white and like you gotta be hundred percent. Gold only a Caucasian with name themselves. But the humane yourself. Your Mom and Dad I've Harry's can I if I give you my last name will that will that help you guess which race I am only goal seen Rosenberg. Yeah Yeah you nailed it you. T- look older intermodal golfing now Weena car but as the same ideas goals he sir genius rob in a evil winger. There's yeah this one. Yeah Yeah we spend a wheel every week clarence in the listeners. The listeners show. Yeah we week. Yeah you guys have wrote on listeners. There are people that are listening to this show. Yeah I mean not. As many many other podcasts damp. I know you're winning. I'm just glares. Did you still follow the Detroit Tigers at new man I do. I did a show on the Tigers. Here's a TV show for about seven years. That was fun and I won't I couldn't fuck and tell you ten tigers to save my life I the guy and major league when he already guys I got legitimately I love them. Don't get me wrong. I I couldn't tell you can tell you l.. They are Clarence podcast. Phuc probably I know you're a big Detroit sports guy who's your your main team at a out of all right teams all the Detroit. Chains are struggling right now but I love him. So my my primary team the My beloved Detroit. Pistons Traded Andre Drummond. Yeah just a few minutes together with a few minutes ago to Cleveland. So I gotTa feel bad for Andrea Anka's. That's just like you know you want to try to Cleveland. The Western people. We understand the stereotype. But I am alive or you get Detroit traded from Detroit. CLEVELAND CLEVELAND DETROIT. And it's Kinda like the class. Did you see that Ethan is going to be on this next survivor season. That's coming up. Yeah Man I'm so happy for them. I'm so happy for for curly mainly He can cut his hair. But it will always will always have curly for a Shabwa bluffing. Listen that E so I will say this Bra I have met some kick is dude being in the military I have met the toughest guys but that survived cancer. Man I should back bachelor digital whatever whatever e- whatever happened with the show or whatever everyman that dude that fan that legitimately inspires with that with that Atma. I'm just I'm happy that dude alive brokers I mean you know I think I you only get ever came out. How sticky was then? I think just like maybe only a few dino. I know the sentimental favourite man for me you know and the rest of those lob. Dick's Hell I don't know what happened. I Down Rob Schwartzman. You'll Sandra's runner on instagram calling herself the Queen Gene. 'cause by apparently now like that sort of Brandon and rob steeler like a photo. New England douchebag. You know fucking stay at the same. God Damn Pat won a million dollars and Kim by not. If I do then I will never change in fucking address. I don't know this GIN fucking layers. I GUESS WE'RE GONNA be black people on there so you know I'm Gonna I'm GonNa try and watch people yeah. Have you kept up with any of the seasons Clarence Nude. I haven't man I you know. It's one of those things things where before survivor. I was always busy. Yeah Watch much. TV neither surviving men. I'm busy at all so I don't watch much TV. So I'm going to China. Watch this one but I don't know that it's like like one of those things where I tell myself I'm GonNa Watch it but I think just because my my social media yeah I get the play by play from these crazy ass fans. Apparently it was some dude. Who is touching chicks? Yeah that was good like. That's what the hell not good like. He was touching six eight what they kept him on and he finally got the D.. Finally get booed off. Touch chicks appropriately with. Yeah there was another incident a and they had to remove him. Oh I miss anything. Fires listen my kids. Get my kids get fucked with at school because like their friends just recently found out that that was on survivor. Right so my my kids now gotta deal with stuff that I did it. Twenty four and their friends are right given on Shit in school. So my kids legitimately gotta deal with this and I got labeled like back in the reality. TV Hall of Shame. Dude I think I I think legit yeah reality. TV holiday with like puck from the real world. You're still vilified crazy man. I'm a villain. How am I like an all time villain sexual harassment? That's a villain role right right. That's right and it's fucking packed. Nama Villain Ellen. Yeah can't believe that anybody is worked up about something that happened on the show so so long ago and especially when. There's so many terrible things that happened on these shows Since then that that's crazy. We'll tell you why they worked. They worked because they gave your dumb ass. A podcast by. Yeah Yeah. I'm still trying to wrap my mind around this shit. I you do for a living you and a heart medication. Dude Hawking on real the allman wine occur. Yeah Yeah you nailed it. Yeah you nail the Clarence is there anything that you want to tell people to check out. That are listening to this All man everybody everybody checkout NREN stream cast man. We do We talked about sports. We talk what about the choice for us when we talk about all kinds of sports. But now I gotta try and figure out how I'M GONNA get Mile Dam Pike. Tell anybody in anybody. Nobody apartheid they get ahold of pros man any one of these people. Tell these people to put me back on so I can actually get on this thing. You know what I would I would seriously smash on Michaud now. Yeah at forty three. I'm forty three years old so I literally would get under show. I would know how to play now. I will play like a grown up. You know what I'm saying before I was Komo four and not a care in the world I was hanging out man. That's not yeah I can't I don't want this to be my legacy but man if somebody's somebody's jackasses. Play again again why. I've Kinda held my tongue for years on this shit but it's time to sound so yeah all you find out there and start lifeblood and social media Hashtag cash tag bring back black. There's no damn way and they gave you a podcast. You gotta say well nobody gave. I just started nobody. Nobody gave it to me that Rob Has a podcast. You're white somebody a baby. I I guess you on under under verse Ain't got some Damn you gotta wonder you gotTa you gotTa office shot of officer out. I decided my house but I read your rents. Clarence is what do you think about somebody surrounding studio in their rented. They didn't really build anything. You put a studio in a house. You don't own the studio we're we're we're you make it sound better than it is. It's just you know the owner Studio 'cause I'm listening beyond like we. We don't plan on keeping that studio. Yeah that you do your pot you do your podcast and quote. You can't even see. Why am I doing quotes with fucking? You can't even see amy right now. I hear it. I hear the quotes clans. What was that link to that you gave out for people in our stream cast but more importantly man everybody can find your social media? Let's get back on this show Hopefully will not have to you. Know Real doc man I I you know I love being an army but eventually you know eventually we're going to happen to to go and do something for our great nation but you know my kids getting getting mess it over some shit. I did twenty years ago. Man Not cool so yeah. I would like to have a better survivor like the. You know. Legitimately Okay I have a better survivor legacy than maybe I can get somebody to give me a podcast with a family like him bogue. It's like the new shape so I like I'm like I'm complaining the line. I'm not a fucking give you a podcast straight or no you earned it offered out you started. It's this is how I'm doing that. I'm doing air quotes by the way and then let's ask you that you found by the way it's not even a brother either like I would think you fly and I know he doesn't she wears like where's the where's the black. Do you have the CO host to go with your white are so white How think you would lean a little bit? I mean not like he went wider front row legit with Akiba. I guess both advertise guard to keep. I'm like Oh oh no see the one wider than you. How did you pick somebody wider than you? It wasn't easy Clarence. Then you just like search. Where do you find Akiva? We're the keyboard of the world at that. We're we're from the same area. What areas that man a Nassau county on Long Island class? We just watched this episode. We went home. I ask you a question about it. Actually then then please do so they show that you know at the beginning of sort of like your stomach hurts and you need to use the bathroom or I guess the outside but they have like this is weird scene where we're pulling up your pants. Are they like videotaping going to the bathroom. Or is it like you sort of like reshot it afterwards. It's bizarre and they're really. I can't think of another other time showing someone you know relieving themselves destroy gay talk Eh Harsh if you WanNa talk about that now rock paper scissors. Yeah you WanNa talk about the rock paper scissors ally. How long are are damn arms? They're up in the air more episode before that we had to cheer the reason. I had shit so bad because we had to kill them. Trust chicken that you literally want to talk. What about whether or not they were filming me taking shit and basically? Yeah you want to know the whole yeah. Pull my pants down now. I squatted and you'd like a cross fit squat. Who who are my groin shit in the whole dove then I covered it like a cat? Then I took a I took a wet wipe and white and then I threw the shitty white at the producer. That was filming me by. Why are you asking me Matt Question Man? Yeah I'm sorry about that Clarence write about about that. They're watching me watching me shit. Somebody's getting off. Yeah yeah sorry. I'm sorry I'm sorry about that. uh-huh wow now going to touch talk about survivor. Yeah got are not telling me fucking like Amway or some shit a couple whereas by your mother and now now Bush but my team didn't follow Clarence on twitter. He's at see black. Is here very very funny on twitter. Also I man. I sure he's Tessler like you at least like and I'm just saying like theoretically in order to make money because there's no way you make money shit you go wendy. I'm not saying you know like bullshit. It's not like you know what I might do like Saturday night. Live when you put like eight uh you know eight to close like no. It's money money you got like. I mean in fairness I make like a lot of pod I guess this is what they call them. The business a loss leader. There's other ones make a lot of these things. Adriaan DOT COM backslash rha Jason but Clarence I think you're the the funniest guy I remember I when I met you. Aw like All those years ago and you you had me rolling on the floor just just talking to you and I just think that the the just one of the funny survivors that they ever had on the show man. I appreciate Shit I've on I. I'd love to do it again. And so now you're going to rally the troops man. We can make that happen like I said I love my soldiers. They WanNa see me do it. My Kids WanNa see me do it. As if he's trying to tell everybody and then it's not you know I don I in control of that Shit if you WANNA start a campaign for me brought them off or but nothing resume aside from all of that. Take your fucking go take those take Yo. Oh ask Don for the local Community College Enrolls Shit. Okay with this whole podcast. Things don't work out then go local Wendy's a lot of application and so in a way hill you're gonNa make money at the shit right. I don't WanNa see you go bro. I appreciate that. Learn you in the heart. Mega heart medication. Dude take man like they they all gotta make some money. Because I'm worried about you alive you I wanna see you indigent telling go down do a trigger get good trade school shit. Okay so I worry about food come. Electric Dam Palmdale. UH-HUH CLARITIN stack. Thank you so much for spending some time with us. Know anything anything for you. White privilege. Madison Madison White Privilege in the heart. Boy there you go. That's the name of the show. A bad name. Yeah Rob's wiping these podcast in the clarence. Thank thank you so much for for the man you're like I'm referred to you as Chad Chad. You sound like Chad Chad. Had I feel like Chad's sorry now. You're you're a Chad Chad. Little Way I. I like Chad Chad winker. Yeah right show a chair win across without. Yeah I'M GONNA say all right. You have a better nickname. I'm Chad play all right. Clark thank you so much but okay all right Akiva you still there is that my name still GonNa go with that okay. mckeever alcohol as anti okay You got any ping pong ball you could have the Alpha roasted host family matters. Yeah Doogie Howser Yeah even Gilmore Girls. Yep they were real yeah they were all there for you know boy okay. We'll boy all right. Should we what what would happen if we never released this episode episode and we we have a male a male are we solicited feedback back yet to get to the winner of the hot takeoff is here to talk about the ideas that were submitted by our listeners. Ars please welcome the Immortal Meghan Z.. Is here Megan. How are you? I'm good sounds like I missed one. Hell of a party. Oh Oh yeah. You got to sweep up the ashes. We are burning. Oh Okay yes you thought you had the hottest takes. Yeah that is true I think Clarence Clarence retroactively. When you thought you had the hottest takes with the folks and spoons at the start of the buffet align definition of insanity yeah that was kindergarten stuff compared to what just happened? Yeah yes clarence retroactively. Who wins the hot take off okay crown to him? That's what I'm here for us. Okay King stays king all right how are you. I'm good no complaints lanes. Okay very excited to have you here with us. After a very long time in between your win in the hot take off your arrival here. At at the mailbag I think it was temporarily banned in two thousand nineteen lives winks because I went on twitch there was like a brief Akiva said that. But it's all good. I'm here okay all right. I don't even remember this season. Forty one so forty forty four forty one. No okay all right so we've got a lot to get there. How is this GonNa work today? Meghan how is this going to work. Well I believe I have some of the mailbag ideas ideas that I will be proposing from the listeners. Correct yeah sounds right all right so so as a Kiva curated list or he just handed off everything to you this week so I have a list of a bunch of ideas from him. I don't know did you did you. Curate these are these have you seen these other jury. Licensed I send like about ten the ideas and she can pick from those ten for whatever she wants to. Okay all right and Meghan let me just add that. I am chuffed to bits that you're here with us today absolutely fine. I'm glad glad to hear that. Okay all right so Meghan plug or promote that. You're here. Oh absolutely not absolutely not I do have a couple of mailbag ideas of my own. Start with those or do you want to start with those. I'll I'll start with mine because I I feel like a rejection city so we'll get through them first. Okay okay So the first one I've got is Robin Akiva Grant Wishes Che's Okay so you wish it you better pitch it. Have you guys ever heard of the APP. Wish Swish minus the team What is it what is okay so wishes an APP? Where are they sell goods at a very low cost They're coming from overseas and they're very low cost goods that come you know at six to twelve weeks. They show up at your door so in this one you guys would have a pool of fifty dollars and the listeners would would submit their wishes for u Whether they want a birthday wish sent them or anniversary. Wish or some sort of other events and you guys would go through the wish APP and pick out items and buy them for the listeners. was some budget. That you set for yourselves I like the listeners. Buying us the better. Yeah so it's like Allie express wish Yes like an yeah okay. It seems like so I am on this. This wish dot com and there seems to be some unusual items including some that. I would think that you would only be able to get from Dr Mike. Yes that's part of the fun of it is. Somebody may write an essay like hey. I'm looking to give my friend a birthday gift. Here's a little little bit about them. It's my wish and then you guys would have to go through some of these very odd items on wish dot com. Pick them out for them. What's the international shipping situation life So they'll ship to the US. It'll take like two months but you know it'll be a nice surprise in May June July August for somebody Okay we we do this stuff on Alex. Sometimes the problem is I think because of what's going on in China there's nothing being shipped right now But like we bought a make your own forty three months ago it came this week. Okay all right so let's put a hold on this one. I mean I'm looking at these look like a wish dot com and it's just like a montage of things. There appears to be eh some short. Yeah seeing adult devices. I'm seeing like shorts. That have like you can like give yourself like Kardashian but so maybe there's some wild stuff here okay. There's something really funny. Somebody wants that like would make an episode. We could talk to them. uh-huh okay all right. Let me let me go to my next idea. Then so we know march is bracket season So the the second season from what. I'm reading on twitter. If you have a good vasectomy pitch for Dr Mike. Business Send Him. He's really interested in Slogan I said I said we'll cut down your nets. Yeah do we have any of our rejected catchphrases that we could give to Dr Mike. Oh that's not a bad idea. We'll take the LASAGNA. Your dishwasher yeah. We'll catch that Sunday milk. Okay north Thursday but anyway keep him. What did you think of Dr? Mike pitched catchphrase for renee. Did you catch that at the top of the episode last week. What was it I forget so I put I put it in there that he had sent it to me? Sent me a couple of different versions on Over taxed I play it for you to go through nine pages of Dr Mike Tax from a win the episode went up to get get to wear the video was but here is where Dr Mike a suggestion for the new catchphrase for Robin giving you the podcast. Welcome to Robin Akiva. Have podcast where you come for the wheel and stay for the waste of time. ekraj rush that. Okay all right. I mean you thought clearance roasted you guys. Good Real Baron. Yeah all right about Oh we're peeling bananas upside down here. Zero perfect okay. All right what else we are not anybody's Dad's John. I'm giving zero g the song good. Oh that's good that's good. You're not anyone's dad's as good. Yeah Oh okay all right what else you got Meghan okay so but besides all the great march slogans marches bracket season on Arianna so this one is called the slang gang brackets. I like it soon. You've got a bracket of a bunch of slang words from you know you could go back like decades and decades and decades and decades and you pick what what the slang word is that. You're going to bring back in twenty twenty to be the slang word so and then you have valley you say it like once you know on the pot corporation backwards from eighteen. Hundreds could be from the eighteen. Hundreds doesn't gonNA bring back. Well alrighty then and he's in this economy yeah that's right you know what I want is a six being of bring back or like take other people's age lick Danza before said wreck and and do you think we could get away with saying reckon. Australian people do It's like old English now in America. Yeah so I reckon we could do it. What do you think about the word chat guys? The Australians chat. No not talking about that Australia. Dropped the word chat about four or five times a sentence. What do you what do you think about that? What do you want? I'm trying to get where you're going with this. Where do you say Chapman Dr? Your Hawks H I think they should say chat last. I don't think we need more. I'll somewhere reverse taking away. Words from different people telling the aussies the cool with the jets. Will you know. Oh you have a lot of chats we get it Robin Eq- have a chat. I mean that would be like the Australian TV trash episode. Probably okay so the slang gang bring back. Old Words I I love the name I love the name. Yeah I like it as tournament where we could get sort of like Like maybe we have like a fifty sixty seventy or whatever like the the bracket for regions you know region and then we could potentially. Yes I do like this it is. Is it a little too similar to cat like is it too soon after the catchphrase tournament in his. It's very similar. It's a great idea. It's fair it's fair. Shall we sit on it for like two weeks and see if we're excited about it like further away from catchphrases. Yeah I'm fine with that great. Wash Yeah Yeah we don't have. It doesn't go until March but Meghan. This is excellent. What maybe should we have a wheel of brackets of what is going to be the bracket that gets added for March gets a bunch of slots? What's rob bracket of racquet racket brand? Okay it king in the brackets. The problem with a bracket of brackets is is that we would then like. If if at the end of the month I would say that we should spin. It'd be it'd be part of the mailbag to do the bracket brackets to see what goes on the wheel or like it's a two part episode where it's like all right bracket a bracket comes up. Whatever they pick the next week's episode okay? It's a two parter order. Okay so it is from America keeping the bracket of brackets ideas. I got enough work. Why don't we have a separate volunteer to be the bracket of brackets gets Correspondent okay. Let's make he wants to do it. I I that someone else. What does she ever play? I have no audience. You might have a lot but how do you know that yeah. I know. It's not a fork or a spoon until the end of the buffet line. What were your other hot takes that got you you to win the hot takeoff okay? First of all I cannot stress this first. None of my hot takes. We're actually hotcakes. They're just more of the life and Times Meghan. Yes four just common sense. which is I cannot understand why anybody puts the silverware at the start of a buffet? If you go to anyone's house this does not make buffets you go to though I feel like I'm not in doing a lot of buffet or sort of like just like you're going to tell. Yeah I'm talking about like when you go to someone's house for like a graduation graduation party Apollo anything where there's like food in a row and there's a suggested order of pick up your plate and your silverware. I based as opposed to your silverware last okay. I feel very strongly about this. Speaking of Megan's takes rob a Meghan. Can You tell Oh rob the heartache. You dropped on me the first and only time we've ever met. Oh Oh about who I who I thought you were okay so Once upon a time in our HP Land Rob did a one time podcast called broke the Internet And it was about marijuana condoms discussed and user vigil. It was a youtube video. And me person that you did it with. Was Roy Wood Junior and for years. Here's when I heard akitas voice. I thought that you were podcasting with Roy. Wood junior so I always thought Akiva was roy junior and I still jill sometimes visually even live Makita and see Roy Junior. You know that's kind of what Clarence thought for a minute. Rob Thought he was casting enjoy and rob. Yes yes roy. Wood junior has gone on to have a tremendous tremendous career Super Nice guy so I'm extremely dreamily happy for all the success that he's had this really won't twitter after Mike. You're doing well too. I guess so. Guess so. He's has had a meteoric rise. Since when we you know I'm you know look you know getting better but You know yeah not at the trajectory. That Roy Wood's career has advanced since we talk. He's doing great. I always see him get re tweeted into the time line. He's doing well on twitter twitter. Yeah he's got a ton of stuff on anyway. So but yeah that so. I can understand why some people make that misconception. Ah Yes very very similar timelines in the rha history so that was. That was my hot ticket by the Cuba. Other hot takes were that the weather channel is the most. It's legitimate sounding website but they actually just are filled with click bait on their homepage. Which is true and I do? I'M A I'm a regular customer of the weather channel. I live in a place where there's inclement weather a lot. You check check in with a weather and all the time. I think there was one today that was like large sinking item in Arctic Arctic. You need to know about to save your life or something and it's on there yeah Okay and then what was the other one. The other one was there was one about how L. Karaoke songs limited to. I think a minute or so and that comes from an experience of watching someone do my Sharana about a six minute song. Yeah you know probably like you know a lot of things who have ninety second Max seconds. TUCK INS sure. I'm okay also with US clipping movies at ninety minutes we can edit them down. I hear you. I'm with you on that one as well. Okay especially the Irishman okay. All right every year. I watch all the Oscar nominated movies. And there's a Lotta hours there we could cares. Why why so you had podcast on Thursday fans of one hundred twenty movies this year? How many movies did you see? I saw like thirty or forty but our friend of watches who has a podcast with Well for America and other podcasts brooks eat podcast with yeah people. He's never met So he he watches. He goes like on the way home from work. Most weeknights he goes the theater by himself and watches a movie. Watch a movie every night. Wow so we we've done that like last five or six years he He ranks movies one one through one twenty or album and he sees force my movies uncut gems by far. That's my favorite movie of this year and almost every year. I think I'd rather go to jail than watch a movie every night. That's Richard Akiva today. I said Zach Brooks name and he has said that. I got an an email to the nappy melody. Zack Brook Wow I. It was a season three episode seven of the genus. Thanks funny like I just conjured him. Yeah all right say somebody else Michael Jordan okay. Well Yeah we could do the reps at seventy Chicago. But maybe one for conspiracy pod for three. Okay all right Meghan. What else do you have in the mailbox and the listener feedback? I had one more of my own. I think version of this has been brought up but the H. One shows are trash Iraq of love your flavor of love your strange daisy of Love Your X Y Z of love. I'm a big fan of all of those shows like that could be appreciated rushing. Let's put that in the the Eric Stein Pitch podcast. I believe that could be an idea for the Eric Stein Of suggestion box. Okay I do feel like. Vh One a surreal. Life may be the winner for most Spin Offs. That have ever or come from a show because they had to have like what fifteen shows that came from that Yeah it was very impressive. was like a franchise unto itself. It did it just. It really took care of their programming for about four years. Solidly Yeah Okay. So what else you have from the listeners Okay so from the listeners. Are we're going to start off with first. One is Robin Akiva. Have a secret admirer. Okay the direct losses Valentine's Day. Are you guys all prepared for Valentine's Day to woo your wives. No I'm not I'm not no. Yeah Yeah my my weight even celebrated and more defeatist talked about our way. We don't celebrate her up. Yeah well you're my wife if is like Oh. I like Valentine's Day because then I get to you know. Spend it with my kids. What what's we're yeah? That's what she likes about Valentine's Day off from work. Why does she even have access? Doesn't even make sense. There's say a school we'll see crazy. Take Yeah it's not even a weekend I don't think she gets her. Kids are Valentine's Valentine's Day with a big leap. She doesn't now in a vacuum hume. She doesn't seem that excited to spend a day with them but for whatever Valentine's Day three hundred sixty four days a year. She may say that that's what she likes about Valentine's Day is that just she gets a you know that. Might this spend time with our kids. Wow yeah so go figure gear and Kiva nothing from you on the Valentine's Day from wrote do it we don't we don't really celebrate it okay. Yeah Everyday Valentine's Day in this house payments that's right again. Kiva emphatically tags a baby onto a statement. It's a mood. The people people say that people written and and say it's a mood when Akiva says Beijing filter. Okay all right so we have a secret admirer. Okay go on Mega. So here's the idea from Derek so similar to the mass singer we can have run out. Personalities send a Valentine's Day card with a message that contains clues free two guests who they are Derek's offering to create gate customized Valentine's person and you can choose your favorite and that person becomes the winner as the Valentine of the podcast Seems very visual. So we're getting some sort of like Photoshop Valentine's Day I think the voices is changed again because we just went to that things rating like bullets to you like it's like author writing like messages with little secret hidden hints about who they are without the voice change issue here. Is that the only way that this would fit in time. Line wise would be to have it next week. I think we are going to take next weekend off for the podcast because one. This is a very long long episode and two this is also the survivor premier. Week coming up next weekend so I think we may just need to take a week off in a while and like a year. Yeah they were going to take a week off from Rene coming up. Is the season finale. Rub If you WANNA call that we can call it that but don't okay these people. We'll we'll be back the week after. Okay okay so maybe for maybe first sweetest day in Swedish Day is October. Maybe in Swedish day we can revisit requires requires perhaps so this could be a two thousand twenty one will could add this to the wheel with a reminder like he does The sweetest day was international pulling Peel twizzlers day. The Oh you're right you're right that's true. Yes okay all right what else. Okay so we also have from Michael Be. We have podcasts swingers exhume I think Mr Axis his Mike Brasserie okay. So in this one they thought Akiva And Josh Together. We're very delightful. So Michael Proposes that you run out of the mix and it's Akiva Josh. Yeah okay well. Who Am I pod casting thing with might be pigeons here in this? One it says are you. He proposes that you investigate other possible pairs. That have never happened. SFJAZZ the Jazz Taryn and Chester Stephen. CAITLYN AKIVA Nicole Keyboard Josh. Wiggle her chester in anybody. And you could do this as a sequel to game night or you have these pairs work together or you could have each pair recap something and then a prize goes to the winning by a vote so trying different combinations of people that have in podcast together. Aw Crystal Nicole one. I wouldn't bet the rent. Good luck with that uncle. TV So we have to listen to like five podcasts. To be able to tell what's going on I mean maybe it's just like ten minutes each or you pick one person. I guess modification this. You pick one person like Chester and have I'm kinda speed date through Hod Casto's academia way to tweak it is. I think that there's something interesting here. AKIVA And I I wonder about this Sort of like that you know if I may bring up a show that Megan and I I used to watch The the the the apprentice. The new celebrity apprentice hosted by Arnold Schwarzenegger. Sometimes they would give both teams attack. Ask What if one week that there was a show topic and then you had another co host and I had another Co host and that we both both would have to do the same. Had thirty minutes to do the same podcast. Listeners would hear both podcasts in one episode and then we would get there would be a winner. Who like you so you could pick anybody who's picking it would be judges? That would listen to this. Yes can I pick your co host and you pick mine. ooh That's interesting. That's interesting I you. And Mattie yeah and I like and then you'll pick Jocelyn Kiva Michael Jordan when he slides into your Michael Jordan yeah slide on in Michael Jordan. Yeah Okay so how have you think of that. Is that an interesting idea apart. I I like the idea of a part of it's never been done. It's an original idea. What would it be about though we gotta I think I mean? Is it very basic like we each. Take a thing out of the fishbowl and we watched like a different seasons up seven. How about that pot off of a season in three although seasons seven might favor one one podcast over the other? I wonder the same thing rupture we watch the same crappy movies or something like that. Okay maybe it should be a movie more so than a TV show. Okay what should it be the same move. Yeah I think so I think then the basically the podcast is is. We'd have a coin toss of do you WanNa give receive or Z.. And then you you split the movie in half thirty minutes thirty minutes whatever whatever AKIVA can do in thirty minutes with another person and I do thirty minutes with another person could watch the last four minutes of the movie an Pot Golf. I WANNA lose Yeah Oh yeah I'll give you shut up tim him. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa take your team. Yeah well I think we'd have to figure out what the mechanism would be for the partner that can be a draft also. Yeah I mean I love. This is a great idea. Okay Pot off okay And so we just have the mechanism of how we should pick our. Ah I would call it a mechanism. Because she's very good at cute very cute. You have a mechanism on how to do this. All right what would it be mind mechanism awesome for this. I think part of it maybe depends on. You have to pick the movie I because I think that's going to determine what kind of Co host do you want to kind of go with on you. I mean I guess in a small rented this fashion that if you were like the project manager and I was the the project manager I guess that we could like like. Okay you use your Rolodex Akiva. Who Do you have your house? carrots up up. Yeah I do feel like I would have an unfair advantage. I did you it that way. Yeah I mean you. Could you know you have a bigger role Alexa Alexa me. So all right. Well let's maybe should call clarence though I went. I want to just kick the can down the road because in these things get forgotten about. No I don't forget. No they really don't I rob. You underestimate how much stupid work put into this. podcast I I do I have. I'm saying I have you know I listen ideas bad. Sometimes I forget I'll hold people forget about it. I mean the name of wheels wheel of names new spin the names and that's good. That's good that's that's not bad. Okay we'll wheel of names. How many people have to agree to agree beforehand? Maybe there's a backup name in case that person's not available that week or something but that's not bad okay. Can you use your veto on the wheel of name. Your one veto of the year for the year names. Maybe at one navy too. But we don't say the name veto is just in case so so that people aren't offended. Yeah Okay then influence in your saying Who who do I won't tell any? Yeah Yeah let us seventy five dollar patron yes. Yeah Yeah okay all right Meghan what. What other ideas are? We have So the pot the pot off going onto the wheel. I only blink because we have two weeks to to work on it. I think pod off so it's available. They can't be picked until until the next I asked but yeah it's on the wheel so next next season was idea was that robs that we tweak something else someone wrote in with. Yeah I think we basically punched up something that was What was the original the idea? It was about the pilot swingers. Yeah you're it's funny guys. You want swingers got multiple pitches of for the same idea of like take a thinking about Wigley like now you guys should do like Taryn you know jester. I duNno random. Thanks yeah I mean thing. Is that people remember. They're still it's still robin key. Needed podcast. If it's just like the podcast is you're just listening to other people talk about stuff then like an anthology series and then that's a different show Robin Akiva so we have spin off like an anthology series spin off. I think we're in fine. Yeah we're fine. We're we're good. Yeah like fear the walking Robin mckeever whereas like two other people have a wheel of ideas and they're just not enough now it wouldn't be a wheel it would be. It would be shuffled dice shuffleboard or the board and they decide what episodes of yours they're going to recap APP Boy Okay Yeah Sorry we put our or we already an idea that we all the first time in a long time. What else? We got mega mega okay. So here's another one for for bracket none or March from La. This is Robin Akiva. Get a new favorite show so this one says the guys need a new show to get super into so listeners put together a bracket of thirty two shows that neither of you guys have seen and whatever show wins gets a permanent spot on the wheel to watch an episode. The idea would be that you'd only watch the next episode when it lands on the wheel so so no additional time commitment other than becomes the official show of our a an a p mom and then it says alternative idea to do a royal rubber royal rumble so the show is completely random Yeah I have to say about this. Yeah number one. I just mentioned royal rumble. What do you think about Apple Mania? Because I was just speaking with Brent wells before the brand from got that I think Brent from Canada before the Before the show. Yeah and he said that he is up for doing another royal rumble. Okay and I and I said but maybe with the royal rumble that we could come up with a feud or two and he could make single singles match ups like we could. Have you know we can have. We can have wrestlemainia. I mean the main thing would be a rumble though but it would be it would be at Wrestlemainia. Oh so it'd be Napa Mania but there could be also like you know we could decide between two season three episode seven ideas to crappy. Movies are too random podcasts and have the ideas. CBS fight or random. People have a feud we want to settle on the podcast. You Know Chad I'm not going to say yes so should we. So should we got there should. Should we put this into motion. MANAPPL- mania sure what's the raw the rumble GONNA be. He's GonNa Thirty New People. He said he's he has an idea yet but he didn't tell me yet. Okay I mean he's got a good track record he did the madden game for us and he did and he did the royal rumble. fifty-fifty track record no oh the madden. He did a good job on like the man game. Yeah okay. It wasn't his fault Sweeps week activity okay. So around Wrestlemainia time which is what April April. Yeah so he's got two months to put together shore. Let's get the ball rolling Okay the other thing. I was thinking with Joe Within dollars idea. is If you like that great but if not we also need to put a new show in the FISHBOWL. 'cause survivors out. So what if we did like a little bracket or something like that or some we have you know away other than a twitter vote. Which is the way we've been doing it now Especially in the pre constitution society out. We decide ride what the new thirteenth show is in the FISHBOWL Bracket for that though. Yeah too many brackets. We're doing one bracket in November. That's two four back in an excuse me in March late. It's tool five here. Okay all right so there were. We're two suggestions in the mail bag. This week I season three episode. Sevens would you like those sure please okay so there was. The I was season three episode seven of Mash and they highly recommend it. Because of ROB's Alan alda impression that that can be highlighted quite a bit so yes yes. Okay my favorite rob impression is Dennis Rodman but we don't get to hear that that I don't remember how do Dennis Rodman Robin oppression and the second season three episode. Seven was a vendor pump rules. And that was the other one party AH pumped up. It's a part of the Bravo. I believe Bravo Liberty. And what's that is that their slogan I'd like to get Vander pumped up. I have no idea okay. Why should that be our show like we watch one episode of independent rules? Audi time it comes to say that maybe that should be for Dr Mike his new catchphrase around under pumped up. Yeah I don't know. Neither of those are really jumping out at me I yeah. I think that we need a mechanism of how do we add a new thing to the what we what we've done which worked the last couple of times is just a few people sending ideas that we sort of like and then we give those three or so ideas on you know a twitter poll and let the listeners. Decide Okay all right now the tank last time because you let Matt Liguori piggly and that's what came up all right. Well what do you do. It'll be funny to talk about all right Akiva. I also do think when you guys brought boy meets world back in then after got kicked off that it should have been brought in as season seven episode. Three I'm so it got like reverse kicked back in. Oh interesting All right well I have no idea which would be a better boy. Meets World episode to talk about checking is iconic. It is in class. Nick boy meets world episode season. Yes really okay if matty for Madison is going to be mad. Yeah I mean all the more reason to do it then yeah no for sure. He's we should just kick it out altogether. No don't do that. I will defer take two Megan if she says Season Seven episode. Three is a better way to go all right. But let's say that on the wheel okay. All right Seven has no spots. This was season seven. A coin flip is on the wheel. Crappy movie diaper is one spot now rushmore or is on the wheel. The People's choice is on the wheel. The third wheel tournament is on the wheel. Should that go in the bracket bracket. I don't think it's a tournament. I think at this point I don't think that's actual tournament is just the third wheel. Robina given you will clarence made a strong showing for the third wheel for Clarence Bear. Third Wheel thanks. You WanNa Watch. Alpha seems more like a small wonder guy okay wheel or no wheel Who would be great? Rodney King Verdict Rodney could give the listeners nicknames these sequel mechanism which is down to is it what is in the sequel mechanism right now Akiva conspiracy theory and game night to okay. All right The constitution and soon the taught pod off okay so that that is a what's going on okay for Akiva really hates the Constitution Futian Yes all them the American constitution. Yeah you would just. If we had a constitution you would probably just rip it up. That's probably probably will. I'll in the Nancy Pelosi here all right so here we go. Let's spin the wheel for episode number. Seventy one son. Yeah yeah there's in two weeks time to premier can take a week or nap season two. Okay gig build up to this all right and we'll or no wheel big one the big one okay. So we got two weeks to get hyped up for wheel or no wheel I'm excited okay. All right Is there any room for additional submissions for wheeler no wheel should we check in with With DJ Lebel client. If you WANNA email some things in. Yeah I think if you if you D M Him but you know maybe a better deal kicks coming off. But I don't know I have no connection to that podcast. I Dunno okay all right. This is very exciting. Can't wait for Wheeler Wheeler no wheel. What a month in February? What sweeps month February right? Yes okay though. This might not have been sweeps episode this but next week. So yeah yeah just. Your ashes are being swept far ashes. All right so Meghan yes anything else. You WanNA highlight anyone's it was helpful to check out. No thank you guys for watching these days. What else my watching I? Oh I just started the MIC. Millions begins the watch. It's fantastic at one o'clock right now. So you'll there's only six episodes altogether they come out once a week. So it's about how the scandal behind the fraud of the McDonald's monopoly with these. HBO Miniseries Type Shows. That aren't on Netflixing at once. I'll start watching by the fifth episode so like I'll watch the first five and then I'll be ready for the for the finale live okay to watch now and if my love it then I gotta wait a week. Why do that are watching a few weeks? That's the case. Yeah you're better off because I want to do right now is like Google deep dive the heck out of this thing and learn all about it but I'm trying to hold off. Did you read because I feel like I know a lot about it. Because it's all based on the article and I read that super long article last year. I didn't I've tried to stay handle the material. Any of the source material interesting. Okay okay all right. So Megan's E.. Where can people find you if they want to hear more from? You sure. I'm on twitter. Meg wants to know same on the ground. But you know I don't really post that frequently the either if you really were trying to find me right there you go all right and then a kiva. He's at Kif Twenty six. He's podcasting about curb your enthusiasm. Megan ZD watch the curb. I do yes yes. Nicole said. Curb is a bad larry. David is the most annoying person in the whole world. Does she want to come under podcast. This week with you and we're GonNa let me ask her. Let me ask you ask her consider society great. Yeah See podcasts wingers whatever Oh yeah yes. She's a very excited about all everything. Then you just mentioned anyway so Akiva. What's going on over on thirty two fans we did the The nineties music bracket is almost done on. We have a super bowl Recap we did that will like the aforementioned hundred twenty movies. I do think we are going to watch your season of survivor because as we are totally out of content for the Patriots. Are you cool with that. If we watch survivor Amazon get really into survivor. you really seem You are really scraping. The bottom of the barrel Jeff Chesser. We been begging him for five years to watch survivor and he said I'll watch rob season. I don't Weinstein noted that okay all right there you go people want that people want Chester's charts. He's GonNa get too into it. I think it's GonNa be exciting. What if Chester Sir Superfan? Who'd be hilarious? It would be hilarious like sending you long emails predictions he made in two thousand fourteen on. The podcast is gone back. I'm listening to all of them in the and also rank them. Yeah well it helps for the archives lady very helpful all right what a show. This tweak Akiva yeah yes this was a show. This was a show. All right. Thank you so much for listening take care have a good one bye by then in back are checked until you. This breath might seem but trust me. If you're showing your section believe me it's for your own protection you see things that you need and the places that you need. The Roswell pressure to the back soup does that the men in okay yeah.

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Rob & Akiva Need a Podcast #51: This Week in Rob & Akiva

Rob Has a Podcast

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Rob & Akiva Need a Podcast #51: This Week in Rob & Akiva

"The in every week Kiva need yeah. That's right Robin. Akiva need a podcast episode number fifty fifty one storm episode fifty one and boy. Have we got a great one for you today because coming off the heels of talking talking about Rob Schneider Schneider and Colleen Haskell in the animal we are back once again to talk about everything that's going on with if my co host and Co founder of Robin Akiva need a podcast who I a podcast with every single week not just in the last asked week of September every single year years the Great Akiva Winokur Kitahara you listen to the theme song I think he says every weekend better attack. No no you don't think so. What are you doing best stuff? No it's every talk show. I was just listening over this yeah. I think he's wrong. I think ISA's better attack. We're not playing it again. Everybody knows now. Did He. Say Robin Akiva comcast. I think that that is a question worth debating but now every every weekend we're recording a couple of days early. We're releasing on the weekend yeah whatever happened the should we play the remix. I mean people the the most feedback we got from last week's episode was that do not touch the altro. which is the perfect strangers altro? I was so does the perfect strangers theme Song Xavier Perfect Strangers the opening theme song has words clothing is Lord of like a Like Electric Guitar version of the some say tinny and yeah but people like that. I didn't realize I guess there's really no room for the the robina comcast remix right now okay all right. Maybe there was like an instrumental -Cremento version. Maybe if our good friend craigslist Carl might be able to make a remastered instrumental Altro to Rob Nikki you need to podcast That's a good idea work on the episode hundred okay all right Kiva last time on Robben Akiva need a podcast you I I watch the animal and suffered through that then we talked about it we had a jam packed mailbag we heard submissions from people's parents and then and we spun the wheel and the wheel came up with a coin flip you one was a half or what was the other thing on the coins some sort of Harper trumpet the Harp Yeah and you one and you could have picked anything anything off the wheel and so a Kiva you made us wait on pins and needles before ultimately announcing where we're going to do here today. What is today's podcast all about yeah well first of all we didn't really have any choices because because behind the scenes like row recording a couple of days after the last one very soon after the last one came out so a lot of the current things on the wheel have a big audience participation the patient element we just couldn't you couldn't really lock that in with forty eighth? I mean two hours notice so we went up and down the wheel and we found one thing that I'm hearing a lot of we the Royal Way yes okay. Why I mean listen? You could have been involved in this. Yes I send you an email sandwich pick and you said I don't know I said Cameo casts. No I asked you on the podcast what should pick because they send you an email with four choices and you're like yeah whatever you didn't you didn't answer which choice Yeah Cameo cast that its own series of problems which was I didn't think we can necessarily get the cameos in time and there was no way any listeners so you said you wanted to listeners to get as cameos. There was no that was going to happen. Yeah okay so we'll get. We'll get to it and maybe even next week but yes so I figured like what if we had one of the guest hosts do all the work over the weekend and they can you know they can put the podcast together without the requiring the help of fifty different listeners okay and so in case somebody started playing the podcast and didn't read the title. What is today's podcast about? It's called Robin Akiva shoot. What's it called this Robin Akiva? It's very late I recording this at two twenty six. Am For me right now this week in this week and Robin and what does that mean rob okay so we're going to be welcoming a guest to the podcast and we're not going to discuss whether or not we should have a guest and he's already here and we're going going to be bringing in the man who is the inventor of the this week in survivor history quiz to play a around today day of this week in rob and Akiva history. Please welcome the host of the this week in survivor history quiz quiz the great Mr Jordan K. Lash wow what a week for Jordan Kayla Ish. I know glad that glad to be here on the comcast. I've been listening. I've listened to fifty and a half of the Aria episodes. I still have the rest of last weeks to get to but a very excited to be here. I have a lot of great trivia questions so you guys Jordan. There's been fifty episodes. You're saying you've listened to fifty and a half episodes. I've listened to it wasn't that was there was one where we had the CY. We're going to do at the live show. Wheel number was like forty one a listen to fifty and he's he's. He didn't know he was right but I think they're usually coaches wrong. It's an accident there was also to episodes that we made before we actually came up with Robin and Kevin need a podcast. That's Canon or or not yeah. Those are the prequels yeah okay so Jordan. Kayla is here to also promote that he's going to be back on the survivor podcast. This season on John Rob has a podcast where he will be basically. We're trying out something new. We're bullpen the wiggle room. This season Akiva aware Wigley is gonNA come out. Throw an inning or two with Casey Kasem in the wand off and then Kahlil is coming out at our long man wait so you're gonNA have one five guests with Witoelar Kayla without at the same time again Wigley is going to he's our he's our opener. He's coming out wand off he's GonNa he's coming out of the bullpen. Throw in one hundred miles an hour and then we're going to then Kayla. She's gotta go. Six is kosher knuckleballer. This is this was supposed to the Bingo hormones roles. Yeah don't compare yourself. The Domingo's Nestor Cortes Stephen Target we. I don't know who is going to be now. Okay the Domingo Herrmann of podcasting Jordan okay all right all right Jordan. Can you explain what we're going to do here today. I can try so what we're going to do. I have a very detail notes here. I as you know I sent you a Google doc with. I believe thirty four audio clips so I have compiled based on the the episodes that you ended Akiva have done in your podcasting career this week in Robin Akiva history there were a lot of podcasts that you guys have done. There was one rene episode which was the May Twenty second one thousand nine hundred eight episode and there were six Seinfeld episodes we end up getting to five of them. Which which are the shower head the Non Fat Yogurt the Chinese restaurant and the finale so? I guess that's four K. Two there. There were six five of them. There were there were actually five and we got to force so keep us to skip one so boring answer. Well well I I. I didn't say this skip one. I said if you're running at a time because he did all this was running. He doesn't answer since you asked rob. Is that one week we happen happen to release an episode per tunes on a Sunday and Saturday so I figured the son was probably like Scott used to draw those episodes like one. Am Pacific that's really the previous this week's episode that okay we skipped a year. No Year we get we didn't do too and we we just did one in a week. Okay all right. We're represented twenty fourteen through two thousand eighteen eighteen. The only thing I did for the past was I went back and and and you know found which episodes because there were there were there were times where you and I would record no podcast. Are you coming thirty two fans or we do something else so I had to make sure that it never happened during this week turning this okay it did not and the week in question is the he last week of September every single year right correct so these days there's the twenty second through the twenty eighth. We also akitas birthday week. That's that's right. I wonder if that comes up in all five of these episodes yes and do you know what's very interesting to also Jimmy Autumn's birthday week Yeah Yeah Jenny Autumn Haley strong big birthday so the ups I said before it was the May Twenty Second Nineteen Ninety eight which actually included the the real run of the survivor. The sorry the seinfeld finale which is one of the episodes that you guys did this week and Robin Akiva all full circle very Meta Very Meta. We have a a lot of information and I like I. I think a message me on Thursday morning I saw in my when I woke up to go to work. Did you on and I can. I was like I had a very busy weekend. I was doing production on a fake survivor season which surprised surprised nobody Jordan every week rob but every time I speak to him he's working on a fake survivors these I think he has a fake job where he just feels to these. If you need Jordan Jordan manager fake survivor season is there keep it to win the invention of addiction. It's like Chester's charts. I think this point point. He's gone too far could you. Maybe like we also have to come with stakes for this game later so the stakes could be like Jordan messes up. He's banned for six months from fakes viruses. The ready messed up like twice in things that does that so. It's unlikely that I'm going to pitch a perfect game going report this but I did get a lot of help from from people in the community. I had Wolfram American Damian who Damian ex you cut the clips for me. I had Aryeh regular podcast listener Wolfram America. He called me out for questioning whether or not he listens to the show yes. Are you okay. Let's clasping Nick Fishermen Sean the Mailman Giovanni or Alana and Damian X. also listened to some of these episodes and wrote some questions for the so it was a team effort. We have fifty three questions which is much different than the seven survivor history yeah more than defenses rob fifty three questions. I told us for six hours twenty seven minutes to babysit while my wife goes the yoga so let's finish this. If all right here the way that this is GonNa work each each question is going to be worth one point. There may be a little bit of an exception to that and you'll see when we get a little bit further into the podcast but I think we should maybe be I don't know I don't think we're GONNA get all fifty three questions. I think that's GonNa take ways you long but if we cut it off when you guys are when you guys is your done other. When you guys are Die Rob Rob your one of your jobs as you decide how many questions we're gonNA? We'll get a feel for it. After all right. Maybe one of US early and sort of will have a magic number where rob I think fifty three is is a lot. Yes a lot is a lot okay all right so any other wrinkles to the game Jordan. Is there any sort of twist or is it just straight trivia know straight trivia. I there's there aren't going to be any questions where I don't read the multiple choice options that that is a rule from this week in survivor history ribbon not in this game so it's really pretty straightforward one point per question. There's going to be one round where you could potentially get two points on a question. We'll get to that when we get to that but so there is a little bit of a twist. Here's there are two categories that the questions are in categories. I have eight categories stories. There is one category that are questions about rob and only Akiva can answer that question those questions. There's also a category that's questions about Akiva and only rob can answer those questions okay now now. What should I have from you? What even so what I have from you is the extent of what I have from? You is one file called Clip thirty one. What's Nice share? Hold on let me I don't think now oh boy. I don't the only thing I have from you. Is One file called unless you have a fake name do you are you having unlike a going great suffer and you're all done. I don't know why that's okay. I'm adding you to the to the doctor do you have do you have a file. That has all the questions on Jordan I have. I have a file that has all the questions I had clips you. You only okay okay so this is you you have thirty four clicks now right so I open this or no lips thirty four clicks all the canal. I have all the clubs. Some there are some questions that don't have clips. They didn't need the clips when the way that it's GonNa work. After you answer a question that has clip I'll tell you to play the clip in the clip will reveal if you're are right or wrong. Okay just also that I feel like that this folder with the clips does it goes up to thirty four. I it starts with three. There's no seven or eight what there's no eleven or twelve year. It says wait a second. How is that maybe they're all news? Dell small uploading it's possible I am looking at clip. One through clip thirty. I opened refreshed into quick. Okay all right all right. We're good I. I think we got here. Okay all right. We ready to start. I'M READY TO START THE STAKES AKIVA sustain okay. Here's my proposal. Yes okay most recently. I lost a genie bet to Akiva when I launched the census which meant that I need to perform three husband genie wishes for my wife life that she can call in at any time yeah Akiva yeah I gotta get out double or nothing. Wife Genie wishes but nothing new six. What are you GONNA do? If you have to do something that I feel good what though you then you might have to do. Six Genie wishes I guess but three and six for me it's not can I just read some of the listeners suggestions sure then dollar lose to give each of his kids and wife and air horns that they could play until all the air is gone he also said the loser pays for the winner to take his wife at an uncharacteristically characteristically romantic in by Air Horn your kids would definitely want them expensive and romantic date it'd be funny if it was a romantic but not in as in prince could expensive like it has to be romantic but also the KFC game nine month. This is thirty me too fans sponsored by Robert's packets. I don't know what would would get if the thirty two fans for a month was sponsored by Rob podcast losers to watch the I animal again. That's fine lose us to leave the House for at least thirty minutes. Mike Bloom says that if IF I win if you if you win he says I have to go which I've previously refused to do on this history with Jordan Taylor turned down. I think four years in a row at but if so that's if you win and if I win I get to pick any guest. I want to be a guest on the show this year I I got a choice for it will not be me for a guest on on your show so you think like what would you pick if you if you one Nan wh wh- what would you pick the thing about it I mean maybe I had. Maybe you know it's for sale possibly veto power. He said also veto hammer so if you don't like so you know it could be for sale could sick shut up tim on you. Guys like you said okay well. This week is history. I Pick Sally Ali splashes friend Missy to be the guest definitely an option but veto watch survivor that was one of the issues is that she didn't watch for it. I don't know I don't know what TV shows missy watches definitely not survivor. I don't think I don't think Sally's splash being called splash around. Okay I think I think that's good. What do you think about that we could do or we can do? We can do your idea. We could do. Both whatever you want okay I want to do. Both we have double stakes sakes. I'm not losing today so whether you WanNa come on a much better memory than me and I have the three to forty disadvantage you also got sent the clips you might never cheated on any of these. I know you wouldn't but but your sound very detto double bets double bats so so what are the benefits all right. If you lose your you do not do any of you win you do not have to any wife Jeannie stakes but if you lose up to six wife Jeannie tasks and and then and also if you win the wife going to be so mad come downstairs time. Guess what I'm out. I'm out and I in a trivia contest. I don't have to do any wishes for you. Why if you were really not like you yeah now as opposed so now when she really really doesn't like I'm an per mike bloom? If I win I have to if you have to go on on twitch with Jordan cages appointees. He's pointing me off on you to me. That's the biggest prize I think I think a lot of Israeli win yeah and if I win I get to it could be missy could be shut up. Tim Rob does have veto power but you know within reason you can't be like like no don't pick Domingo Herrmann no domingo her mind. I mean Mitch Guard sauce if he's back on twitter wants the twins inevitably get swept first round of the playoffs in three games he could be my guess that'll be good yeah not like Edwin India's. Do you have to watch survivor to be on this weekend. Survivor histories that if we requisite it helps it helps to watch the show okay all right let's get into we got fifty three questions to get two thousand four hundred zero. Let's what's the over under right now in questions that you think we'll get to ten eighteen okay okay. Let's say Okay so rob. The categories like I said our Jordan Kayla is is is not known for his quick hosting work no definitely not but my my thorough hosting works sometimes. It's better to be thorough than quick rob. They'll know that yeah so here are the categories that you could choose from. We have rob questions. We Have Akiva questions only choose rob only rob could use AKIVA we have the episode of May Twenty Second Nineteen Ninety eight we have Seinfeld the shower head Seinfeld the nonfat yogurt Chinese restaurant the seinfeld finale and I can't believe just chester now all it is all stick with things about chester just questions yeah and there are different. Ah Mounts of questions on each of these categories. If you finish a category I'll close it out and you won't be able to go back and forth like jeopardy. I don't don't know what do you think I was going to go back and forth category that I can't answer the questions I still have to go back and forth right. I think we should go forth that was that's how I planned it are we can we each win points on any question or no. It's like Rob's question or Akiva question. No you could win. If you correct answer you get a point if you are there multiple choice for all of these none of these every single one is multiple choice choice fifty three multiple choice questions like like a biology teacher. I I have a print it out. It looks like it's the sat okay Chester. Take it this weekend yes and rubbed a better than me actually Chester I've live forget Bill Simmons and cousin Sal you play along and you tell us if you beat a bob or Akiva That's a good one yeah play along. Everyone can play along Johnny Diesel. There is GonNa grow Chester unstrapped do if he ends up losing US come back on social media. He's Social Media Terry and knowing all the groups where it's like you you ask a question chesser comes in with chart. They've been very inaccurate all right so I think it should be back and forth on the okay. That's how I planned it originally so oh who who wants to go I it doesn't really matter I okay I keep choose a category from the ones that I gave you choose a category. I'm I'M GONNA say May Twenty Second Nineteen Ninety eight episode okay their nap episode and you could choose a number from one through nine. You just just pick numbers if the random order so you know what's been yes good good job order. The questions get harder. Is it like two hundred hundred four hundred six hundred eight hundred no not at all okay. Yes then just going order Jordan okay so I'm GonNa go in order. It's completely random based on what category you pick so question number one what what slashed who does rob sarcastically say isn't self-referential enough on the episode. Is it a recap be. ESPN see Dan and the war dog to silva or d the ringer so this is one of the non audio questions. This is an audio question the the audio audio's was acquired clips are all answers. How do you like this okay now? That makes sense. I'm gonNA say the ringer because we talk about the episode five right we that's all we talked about the first few we out so a d the Ringer Rob Blake play clip number four okay. I feel like the one bad thing thing about the the ringer they don't talk enough about the ringer on social media and self-referential. I wonder works. There's a big star. Everyone wants to know more about like. I need to know more about what people are eating for lunch and everything that's going on officers. I wish they would do more of that yeah. Why is it so Akiva you get a good start? You did use this. I feel like you still talk a lot about Roger Sherman. I use them as an example if people don't care but then we re tweeted me this week so he now he's good okay all right rob you get to choose the the next question why don't we just stick with the instead had a balancing around APPs or yeah. Does that make sense Akiva. Yeah that's fine with me. Okay okay so let's do. Let's do like four Renault questions and then we'll switch or ORAPA. We'll get into question then we'll switch categories after that okay so this is number two what idea came up on the wheel at the end of the May twenty second one thousand nine hundred nap episode was in the wife swap quiz be your tweets trash see top tenor trash de Leprechaun so what came up on the wheel. What was the following following episode? The answer is a wife swap quiz final answer. You are correct. This one doesn't have a clip so you you got a point there. Yes the wife Sean Quiz came after the May Twenty Second Nineteen Ninety that whole question was what is episode six as opposed like remembering something from a year ago Okay Yeah so rob. I guess you get to choose the category now. Okay let's go to what's the furthest back one that you have the first of this back. We have actually episodes we have. I should've shower head to Nonfat yogurt Chinese restaurant. I guess Chinese restaurants restaurants the first one to Chinese restaurants so we're going to do two questions now from the Chinese for twenty fourteen eighteen. Yes okay at this game for Awhile Rob Yeah. This is our sixth birthday. Week of podcasting alright are alright so this question is for Akiva Akiva. How much money did Akiva what this is? This is poorly early word question as as stay in the pockets okay. How much money did a Kiva think you think someone would have to pay rob to stick his face in somebody soup and and blow is it a one hundred dollars be five thousand dollars see a million dollars d? He said rob never do it. I I mean I know which the numbers I use in. One of them is always a million so I'm going to say million okay. Let's go to clip number twenty nine for the for the answer. Okay seen from the Chinese restaurant restaurant. Here's what Akiva said. How much money would you need to seek? My face is somebody's soup and blow. I'd say probably at least I at least two hundred. I think you really what you would do it for. You would consider doing that. I the five thousand five thousand no I think you're being you're being too precious. Akiva a fat for a thousand dollars. You'RE GONNA over to somebody soup and blow in their soup. I mean who's the person are. They going to beat me up. Also how hot is the soup because it I I you know I wouldn't want to take scalding face burns for or two hundred dollars but you're gonNA give me two hundred dollars cash still do that practice. Is this you now or is this your in two thousand fourteen. I can't you can't tell me this tell yeah castle and sounds like it's awesome. Correct on Jan was was be five thousand that sound good podcast Akiva that talking about the Seinfeld podcasts that people will then begin to go back and re listen the the renowned stands realized that there is a whole back catalogue. I think you should one hundred eighty plus Robin Akiva episodes that are waiting for them to bench. Netflix should buy those does Netflix should purchase those who is really big into the other Seinfeld podcast. They had a documentary with them. I feel Netflix. We're there guys where I mean. What would it cost to buy us out on the Seinfeld Post Show Recap Archive? I mean if the flights offered one hundred dollars at the end of the day. I don't know why we think the soup right. I don't know why we are. They gonNA hosted for us. I think we'd pay them probably yeah it's just put it on the platform. We don't even care we would we would literally probably pay them if they and even the slightest bit of promotion okay all right so it's what one to one now. It's my question your question same category so what was is the Hashtag for this episode was at a Hashtag scrumptious be Hashtag Cartwright see Hashtag Seinfeld Four D. Hashtag. Rip Shea Stadium why would they have rip's Shea Stadium in a twenty fourteen Seinfeld podcast ask. I'll say it was scrumptious. Say you know what it is Makita. I think it's car right. I remember getting tweets after car right. I think we like up there. Hashtag Game Okay Yeah. It seems like that it's very on the nose for car car right. What's your clip number thirty one okay clip number thirty one in honor of Mike Piazza who closed out Shea stadium keeping the Hashtag for this episode? I think I think cartwright yeah. I think that's what I was gonNA say to car. Right is the Hash so basic so basic so on the nose I I remember getting couple tweets. We gotta get better hashtags than that. Not Proud not proud. We don't do tags on this show. We bring it back. We bring back saying we could do a Paul. We could do a poll for next last week Okay I. I you know we also need rob. Someone like I'd say a every technical third episode. I said we're going to do a poll but then by the time the episode comes out I don't WanNa do it right away because spoilers whatever and then I forget so I need a poll reminder whole reminder reminder seeking Paul Reminder for Renee okay. We're four questions chains in forty nine more to go. It's a one a one one game. We're all tied up so let's go with. I think I'm GONNA choose the categories for now I. I let you guys do it for the first two. It's it's worked out well but I'm going to change it up for whatever reason okay so this this this round. I'm going to have rob answer. A question about Akiva and Akiva will answer a question about rob so Akiva. You'RE GONNA get the first question it's this is one of my rob questions. I'M GONNA go with with this one. What was what was unknowingly a preview for the baby naming pod sorry in knowing shot in what was unknowingly England a preview for the baby naming podcast? What did rob say would be a good girl's name was it a Slovenia G Stonier see Latvia Jeroen Rohan? It's not row in. That'd be insane if it was rowing everybody there yeah I have no idea I don't remember this at all. I guess I'm GonNa say Slovenia now. Play Clip Clip number twelve. That is a beautiful name back so I like the country Slovene why I like Slovenia. I've never been there but I feel like that's a good name for a girl Slovenia. Yeah that's well that happens to be where Milan trump is from Slovenia yeah okay that'd be a good backup name. Wow kief really standing Malania back in two thousand fourteen that editor. That's the back story. I mean country. She's from that's not a backstory. It's like that's the one thing you knew Slovenia early like they had a guy. The Guy Likes Lot go. They had a soccer player who was like their best player. WHO's first and last name we're with Z's? That's why I remember wow yeah yeah Keefe two thousand fourteen. Keep a keep a good job. You've done a whole podcast with rob about the types of names that he likes consciously you. You were always always GonNa get that one right so rob. You're going to have an AKIVA question here. So this is from the renowned episode what Nineteen Ninety eight movie poster that was hung up by the Long Island Railroad. Did AKIVA contemplate stealing a Godzilla be titanic see Bulworth D. deep impact. I just told the story again. It might have been in real life though I don't remember the difference in Real Life Path here choices against which ninety eight movie was hung up by the Long Island railroad and keep it a wanted to steal it a Godzilla be titanic see Bulworth impact. I'm going to say it was Bulworth. Okay so let's your clip number. Two Okay Tannock wasn't even ninety-seven wasn't the Godzilla movie I remember they had a really cool rule poster. by the Long Island railroad there was like this giant poster and I always wanted. I never stole anything in my life but it was wanted to take the poster and then I start like what if like I'm sure it's going to be gone in a week or two because they're not gonna be prone to move. WHO CAN I call and ask if I could have the poster when they're done with it but I was too lazy as a kid to do that but I really wanted to take that post and put up? My Room was just like a giant Godzilla foot but I remember thinking it was so cool you famously hate Sifi. Why did you want Godzilla poster? I thought it was cool poster. I never saw the the Matthew Broderick God's ill movie was just a really cool poster knows fourteen. I don't know I thought it was cool. Yeah okay all right so it's not so I mean isn't more of an action movie than Sifi Godzilla giant Lizard yeah but it's I mean like it is science. It is fiction but it's it's more of an action movie. I think I duNNo. I Dunno Matthew Broderick. I'm really an action star is he. A SCI FI more KHUSAIBI did project x Matthew Projects and he's the Data Project X. That's a dad he was the kid in project x Matt Project. I checked X. We're talking about the party movie like a knockoff of pride. No He's like Jordan. You know what I'm talking about projects right. I have cutty Song Ottoman on the pursued. Okay nobody it's like I think there's two movie. was you different. There's two movies are project X Yeah I'm starred in Nineteen eighty-seven projects meals crappy movie but yes as punishment for a minor offence the air force assigned pilot Jimmy a Garrett Matthew Broderick to watch over group of chimpanzees used for military experiments. You know this is more of like a super bad knockoff. Project acts like a crazy house party that gets out of control okay. I can't believe you haven't seen I've never seen that. I've never heard of it. It was a big deal is a big hit. Either you have a you have a two one lead after out of two after two rounds of the game and the next story we're GONNA go to is. I can't believe it's just Chester Elkin so this this question is going to be for a Kiva what rejected question to chester submit for the shower head podcasts mailbag according to you how much which action is Uncle Leo getting what is the proper amount of baths that a man should take a year see. Have you ever snuck poppy seeds into your friends food to get them busted. The shower has too much our hold on my both know the answer the question so this is a question that was submitted by Chester Ester that Akiva set on the podcast that he was not going to read he was not going to read it but he did say it on the podcasts yes so it's definitely the horny one. It's definitely Uncle Leo how much action is he getting all right. Let's hear Clip Number Twenty servicing the h word Chester rush this week. That's it. I'm here to rob. I go through with a fine tooth comb. Not every question makes it to the to the final. Okay okay got. It's a you gotta you gotTa work hard yet some question about like like how much action is Is that something to explore I I I you know I the thought of even you know I. I didn't even want to get into that Jerry. You wouldn't believe it. No I met this girl named Slovenia would be like Seinfeld subplot that he's like sleeping with trump's wife. Oh No twenty one thousand nine hundred eighty eight trump yeah ninety eight trump donald trump's wife Marla MARLA maples well. It's an early science fiction. It's like Godzilla yeah. Okay sorry but you have your correct act. You have three to one lead. You need you need you need to build a tiny gave me some bulletin board material when guaranteed a win yeah like when I like Jeremy Collin. Ellen did all right so rob this is also under. I can't believe it's just chester. This is from the seinfeld finale. What plot hold the chester notice in the finale episode? The gang is flying to Paris but it had been previously revealed that Kramer doesn't have passport be Kramer tells Jerry that nobody he comes back after the move to La despite himself coming back from L. A. and Season Four C. Mabel Show Aka the Marble Rye women testified at the finale despite Helen Seinfeld revealing feeling that she had died at del Boca Vista during the wizard episodes Dietrich Westchester actually didn't send in an email for the final episode boy. Am I getting harder questions than Akiva Kiva is. I don't think so you had a question what is episode six of this podcast yeah which is a pretty easy one to answer that was New Jersey Eh but you were very confident. I know I would've got that one wrong would chester and not have submitted finale episode Iv like he's got that so I'll say the one about the marble Rye lady okay so play clip number twenty seven okay here we go number twenty seven as Chester did point out in his email. Kramer himself did leave Los Angeles after moving out there right right yes kramer literally did this and he could not have gotten out fast enough. I mean he almost wasn't able to leave because he could have been in jail right around so maybe he understands how hard it is to leave so it's actually not a crazy thing that he's saying okay. I completely made up the Maple so yes rob you were you you were incorrect. AKIVA still has a three to one lead here and let's let's stick with Seinfeld. Let's go to the Non Fat Yogurt. These questions were written written by a by Arielle Kayla's Glasmann so we are going to go to that category here. Let me find it there. We go okay Akiva. Let's do question number. One which of these frozen yogurt places did not come up on the podcast a man and she's B. C. Yogurt Land D. T. C. B. Y. This for me. Why don't even know what Cat Seth it is be that I don't know what it is? I'm GONNA say be. That's a made a place. I think be is correct according to that according to Arielle that this is a yogurt place in in Israel so what from who wrote these questions Arielle Keilor's allege glassman reo cage glassman family history like I don't understand what was the question for. She was for you. Yes I even you do get the point. I don't even think I honestly I'm GONNA I'm GonNa rejected that point because that's an five. I'll give you another question here. I've a backup so rob brings up Susan Susan powder a well known fitness and weight loss motivator and overnight sensation from the late ninety s because Jerry says to Kramer at one point right. Let's start the insanity which rob rightly believes as a nod to powders very well known slogan. Stop the insanity something that something she has issues with which I I overeating something. She has issues with prior to starting her motivation career. He has no idea who Susan is and they start doing a deep dive on Susan. He finds out where Susan was living. According to wikipedia where does she live an earth ship in New Mexico. Be a you're in southern California see a mobile Zona de in a van down by the the river. I have no idea what just happened on that yet. But what does that even the question question where Susan powder live now where did Susan powder live can ask a follow up question sure who Susan Susan powder. What are we talking about you? Didn't you didn't know this one. You didn't know who she was. When the when Seinfeld episode aired either she's apparently a fitness and weight loss motivator? Isn't that the pressing thing Akiva that we make progress week after week on this podcast but then it fades away like you where we learn stuff week after week. Were we're destined to go back to knowing exactly the same stuff that we knew before you know people were asking me. Do I know what a pop socket is this week. Yeah people were like of course no. Does anyone know talk. I've never heard of it. I still don't know what it is Jordan keilor's you know what it is. No no idea okay. I might be overrating how well known pop sock. Oh we're GONNA put it on the map then that's fine but I don't think right now what is it. It's a thing that you put on the back of your own Jordan probably in his seen it but doesn't know what it's called all. I think if I wanted to make a call on my car like I put known sell `this and stick stick it on desk. No you stick it on the back of your phone and it helps you hold your phone okay. I have seen those they were on a shark tank right. I don't know if it's on shark thing I think it was. I think it was on shark tank. I think I saw that episode. Don't Spoil Binge Shark thing. I also want spoiler Cuba and this question. Where does where does not go with AKIVA? You're you are correct in New Mexico so you get things jet rob. Can I make a comment yes. I don't like that. They put in like one awful jokey answer in every every one of the choice welcome to Jordan quiz. It makes no sense why would at least two five five is hard to follow. What's what that that Jordan that makes those stop doing that for the podcast? It doesn't make any sense node robbery homicide here. Are you all my side. It makes sense to have a joke answer the quizzes so long Akiva that I actually appreciate the joke cancer. It's like it's the comedy but it's a one in three at this point not a one hour war just choices joining at go back to nap at some points. I WanNa make sure we do all this is renee we will we will do their naps but this is rob. AWW does get one question now. From the the Non Fat Yogurt The New York mayoral race of Nineteen ninety-three as a running storyline in this episode where Rudy Giuliani is running against David Dinkins on the PODCAST podcast. You both the swearing in being memorable for what a his son making funny faces be his son mimicking the official swearing and Rudy Giuliani see his son mirroring Giuliani's actions and words de his son adjusting his pants and getting impatient. What year was this from the frozen yogurt? Uh check yet the seinfeld television episode or the are no rotten. The Post show recap ask Giuliani was on twenty fourteen off the map at this point. We've changed restaurant Twenty fifteen probably fifteen twenty two thousand fifteen of that the twenty fourth two thousand sixteen the shower. Oh we're going for the non-fat your yes. It was twenty fifteen yeah so Giuliani back back in the mix all right so I think that the sun was he was like mimicking so there's there's to hear mimicking getting the official or mirroring Giuliani's actions and words I will say that he he was mimicking the official so the answer is actually see son was mirroring Giuliani's actions in uh-huh has a four to one lead and I have a very interesting tidbit here about Andrew Giuliani who's now the grown son of Rudy Giuliani. He's actually the current publicly as an assistant assistant to the president of the United States got that job on merit okay so we're going to go away. We know this deep dive would involve so much White House talk back. Thanks for the White House steering things that you guys have talked about before. I wish I wish we have parents where you're just like. Fail upwards instead of downwards as the these the you know it's automatic that the you know these guys are like all right fine you just you're in the White House. Your Dad is important not that I want to be in the White House. I'm just saying yeah okay okay all right. Let's go go. Let's go back to let's go back to Ron KNAPP. This is going to be a question for AKIVA AKIVA two. What Song do you guys analyze? The lyrics is on the May twenty second nine hundred ninety eight episode was getting Gygi with with by by Wilson's be too close Sims. I said Joe Cancer with that. One of the joke answers it says will Smith I'm used to reading questions about survivor as getting Jay dickey with it by will Smith to close by next see the boy is mine by Brandy and Monica de my heart will go on by Selene Dion Yeah. This is rob classic a B to close next okay. Let's hear clip number six. Okay the song to close if I if I can't revisit the the plot of the song yeah the so so it's about a guy who is on the dance floor with the girl but he's telling the girl a hey. You're you're dancing too close to me and I'm coming aroused and you're you're giving me an erection on here on the the dance floor. That's inappropriate yeah yeah so Akiva five one commandingly now that was an easy right are easy one very easily won. I thought it was gonNA be hard one. He's talking about the song again Jordan so I am not the number three. This is for rob who did raw call out for not doing well in the podcast. One sports pool was a rich Eisen. Would the Dan Patrick see Shaquille O'Neal D Stone Cold Steve Austin. I'll say it was Shakeel O.`Neil Okay let's hear clip number five Okay Eddie Shack our our competition in the in the singularly because one thirty nine fifteen rebound debt he had a shock but it was not doing as well in the podcast one sports net pool yeah I does he. He makes the Pixie think he's got like an assistant. Pick for him. I think that there's a shack whisperer who does picks yeah there might yeah shack might would have multiple whispers beating again this year you being everybody yeah yeah knife yeah and I think this is a this is a good segue into the the one round of this game that we're going to work a little bit differently. During the the I believe it was the the nap so there was a nfl week three. This is twenty eighteen so yes this this this would have been the rap episode rob You you picked picks five football games and the way that this is GonNa work. You're going to have to pick who what team did rob pick in the game. If you get that right you have a chance of getting a second point by guessing if rob was correct or if rob was really getting in the weeds here yeah. Do you not want to do this. We don't have to I mean but but I would say well. This is going to be funny like who cares probably not that. It's a category save it for the end. Let's save this for the we'll see. We'll save that we'll save patients. The game is like what are some crazy things that robin mckeever. We're talking about all these years ago. Did you come up with WHO picked it. or where did one of your your your helpers do this. I could blame it on them but I actually came up with. Were there just to be clear now the rap ones we're all my literally. Nobody could care less about people aren't they. Chairman did we pick a pick football games later in this podcast and nobody cares the nobody cares from a year ago yeah. We're on the same page here. Okay okay so let's let's go now. I'll come on thirty two fans and we can do we can visit so let's. Let's go. Let me see I have we done. I heard they're upset. Let's do let's do the Seinfeld Seinfeld finale. We haven't done any here yet yeah episode whatever that yeah this was this was a very very long episodes and I know because I only got through half of that before I had to outsource it to sean amount so again. I like Jordan Rub said he he's so busy this okay fine we're asking a lot from short notice and then after I spent the whole day doing production of fakes viruses and couldn't answer the fake survivor production to work on this podcast. I've been I've been I've been married to that to that plan liked. I couldn't cancel wheel Jordan. The wheel can call any point join time unique recording survivors my Mitch. I was like better every weekend. Better vetera- tend not every Tuesday. I didn't know it was going to have to be twos though they listeners there on the weekend the listeners wheel we could wake you up at four in the morning and say it's pot and ironically. That's what time it is right now for Akiva three yes so Akiva. We're going to the survivor finale. What what did you guys agree would be annoying about working in an office a people stealing your food be coworkers overhearing your phone conversations see not being able to take a nap APP during the day De Ante Spoiler Cultural Culture Yeah I I definitely not nap spoiler culture? Yeah you could get spoiler the office that is a big problem. I hear I don't know I don't have a job at home or not at all culture talk on the phone yeah yeah. We're not phone talkers. That's an absurd. That's a joke answer clip clip number twenty four okay here we go. I don't work in an office and neither do but that's actually probably W. Noy because if you went to the office like one yeah it's probably so don't spoil me heavy like that would be so you mentioned like Carol doesn't WanNa can't listen to our game of thrones conversation. Caroline accounting isn't watching it till Tuesday with their husbands. Come back then Carol. You Better Watch the show. Oh we're spoiling the fortyish spoiler culture or society here yeah six sixty two Akitas lead and Robert is your question what character or characters does Akiva speculate may have died in the seinfeld finale a newman be a spell costanza see both d neither newman have died in the Seinfeld's finale and then why would still Costanza have died in the seinfeld finale can't think of a a reason why they would be dead so I've seen I'll say both both okay. Let's hear a clip number twenty six okay. Is She alive. At the end of this episode food is still alive. At the end of the episode look she faints and like when they read the after they read the ruling like sort of cut to her and she's like splayed out over the overlook the bench in the back of the core she might be debt. I don't think still died in the seinfeld finale. I think she might died as George Costanza says in this episode episode when you're bleak you're bleak but I don't think we're that believe Kief well this sort of sleeping on it but also like did Newman die from choking on whatever he was was joking on. I don't think so I think Newman should have died. Honestly does that Count Yup accountable so it is it is six to three. Oh that was like the field goal hooking hooking hooking and just broke right back. It's you didn't take a delay of game at the last minute because I think you probably would Bruce Arians us in here good job Akiva. You have a six to three are- lead have MIA. Let's let's go to let's go. Let's go back to the the May twenty second episode and this is going to be a question for Kiva so okay. This is which future nap episode did ROB. I proposed on the May Twenty Second Ninety eight episode was a the wife swap quiz be explaining star wars to Kiva See. I can't believe it's just Banter D- DOC advice not why can't we propose. I think it might have been mine about Star Wars. I'm going to say his own and say Star Wars okay. Let's play clip number nine. Okay you've never seen any of the star wars film I'll give you the synopsis of each film and then I invent invent one storyline or change one story line that would actually did not happen in the movie and then you have to figure out which one is is not is not real pretty easy question vessel seventy three this is eh if that's an easy question and this one should be an equally easy question question number. Six Texas is for rob. What future recap episode did AKIVA? I propose on the May twenty second ninety eight episodes guys for having me answer the question and seconds ago was it a millennial heels killed it be Judge Judy Jeopardy Aka Robin Akiva smart and our Listener Dee Robin Akiva nickname a baby oh and carry the choices one more time time yes a millennial killed it be judging Judy See Jeopardy de Rabbi Akiva Akiva name a baby. This is what the EVA for I propose on the bypass pretty sure it was jeopardy okay. Let's hear Clinton number eight okay. Should we put on the wheel rob verse Akiva in Jeopardy Eh. I guess we didn't really need a clip for second time. It's a the timesaver so seventy four AKIVA has the lead and we are going to know how it saves time it saves it saves time that it was a short clip. We could would've gone deeper deeper on that clip so it didn't save time of of not doing it. was that's true. Let's go to let's go go to Seinfeld the shower head. We haven't done any questions from the these are all all Nick Fishman questions so if you don't like the angrily tweet what year is this from two thousand sixteen you. This is the shower twenty sixteen. Yes okay on my birthday is that these episodes did not listen to this podcast so if if it was bad job for nine dates in front of you what kind of what kind of notes do you have. You said you have eleven pages of notes. There are fifty three both choice questions okay fine. How many have we done so far we have done? There's eleven correct answers. I don't know how many incorrect answers I. It's honestly a working we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA Redo questions and then Robin are gonNA lose it Jordan. Yeah I'm crossing. I'm crossing the matt. You'd have to worry about. Probably we'll see so here here. We go. This is for a Kiva. What was the main issue that Dr Thomas and the Doctor Thomas was the official Dr Seinfeld podcast? What was the main issue that he had with the episode in regards to Elaine the story line? Hey you don't need a drug screen to travel out of the country. Be Helen's P wouldn't show any signs of menopause osteoporosis see Helen's pity would have been contaminated by the trace amount amounts of coffee if collected in the coffee mug. Da Hippo violations were broken nearly everyone in this episode. I don't think it it can be deep because if you're a member rob Dr Thomas was in Australian doctor so I don't know if hip is exists in Australia so it's definitely a p one because there's two pm and I'm going to say be Jordan so Helen's P wouldn't show any Ashley wouldn't show signs of Menopausal osteoporosis play clip number eighteen okay my bigger issues with the storylines accuracy comes in the final few minutes Helen's urine sample test positive for menopause and osteoporosis so you can't diagnose those conditions on simple urine sample and even if you could it certainly wouldn't show up on a drug screen. It is ludicrous good answer circuit. You're killing it. You're killing it here. You're you're up eight to four. I'm not your question from the shower head. Which of the following things that Kiva say was among the most stated was at a local phone calls be plumbers showing up on time see vaccines at the airport? Dj Leno's hair plumbers showing up on time and doesn't seem like that would be a particularly dated thing. What was a look phone calls local phone calls? I feel like that. That seems like that would be something that we would talk about. I'll l. say a okay so let's play clip number. Sixteen okay local calls Kiva dated is that but people are worried about making local calls versus long long distance calls really should have tracked because a lot of times during the series. I say like oh now. That's the most dated thing of the whole series but this is up there. This is in the top five. That's not even a thing anymore. Local because long distance calls right no Internet like with the right plan you call internationally for free essentially now so okay so we had eight to five. Let's go now to questions where Akiva answer a question about Robin Rob is going to answer a question a question about keever the so okay like this question. This is This is four Akiva about rob. what Elephant Washing Solution did rob suggests on a Seinfeld podcast it. Was it a build an elephant pool to bathe them in be walking elephant through a car wash trained elephants to spray another spray one another the create a water park zoo featuring elephants. I think the car wash by this honestly is not familiar. I have no recollection of this. I'm going to our wash okay. Play the clip number thirteen so if you could train one of the elephants sprayed with a trunk I think that that would really be the best case now how they do it in the Lakers spit shower kind of yeah well. It's not spit that comes out I mean they pick up the water in their trunk and they spray down. I don't know that doesn't sound so why Genyk although I guess the elephants are not the circus probably just never shower like animals bathe. I don't even know how that works going water. Is there an elephant and then episode. This is very off. We've got a lot of times which which episodes from this this is from this is from the car wash episode the Car Wash the famous rob the famous seinfeld episode Garwin Okay Are you from. It's from the the shower head yeah yeah yeah okay so this is about that they use it to wash the elephants right yeah so they did mention elephants but there's no elephants in the actual the actual episode the high-pressure shower head yeah okay so we're GonNa go to this question now. This is from the seinfeld finale. This is rob. What phrase was written on the shirt that keep wore the day the seinfeld finale aired was visit a serenity now be can't stand you see no soup for you D- Yada Yada Yada he he's had a Seinfeld t shirt? Can I hear the choices one more time. Yes a serenity now be can't stand you see it for you D- Yada Yada Yada gotta say it was no soup for you. No Soup for you play clip number twenty two. It's like you don't even no me because that was the school trip. You didn't have to follow the dress code. You can wear clothes. You didn't have to wear whatever you want so I happen to have a the can't stand you t shirt Jordan shirt with with a book men and I was able to wear my Seinfeld shirt all day the day of the the finale yeah okay well well. Well done good job by you. Yeah sorry about well. I knew that the others who were to close to the finale and that you could get assure may Yada Yada. I feel like a a couple episodes before the finale right or the year before it was only four but this is an old shirt and I am not available online anywhere. There is no can't stand your shirt that you could okay bye okay. I'm very movement in that round no so as to yes and it's still still eight to five. Let's go we just we just spoke okay a little bit about the survivor finales. Let's go. Let's go. I keep saying this is like conditioning. I'm conditioned to talk about survivor. When I go on a podcast because zero you play these fake seasons and you're with us? You're thinking about your fake survivor seasons. I know I know now. I think I'm thinking about the questions. Since then I have to write for for Sunday for the first episode of twist so this is going to be for Kiva who did you guys say it was the biggest mission from the finale and was not even in the deleted scenes. A Mickey be Susan's ghosts see Peterman and Tim wildly Susan's ghost. I'm going to say I don't remember this conversation well. You never talked about citizens. Go as soon as Suelem isky. You said it was the biggest omission Nellie so you don't get a point there and We don't have a clip for that one either okay rob. Why does it keep a give? You Shit Shit on the Seinfeld. Finale podcast was sorry yeah hey hey he's overly down the episode be He's overly positive about the lackluster finale see he's already started another series rewrites before finishing the Seinfeld rematch each d- he proposed the idea of doing another regular podcast with Akiva Po Seinfeld. You please repeat the question sure what does he. Why does Akiva give you shit on the Seinfeld Finale podcast and one more time on the choices yet a he's overly down on the episode be He's overly fairly positive about the lackluster finale see he's already started another series rewatch before finishing this the Seinfeld Rewatch d he pooh-pooh is the idea of doing another the regular podcasts with Kiva Po Seinfeld who I pooh-poohed the idea of doing another regular Rewatch Pike is the Quila Rob Uku the idea of doing another regular? That's the correct answer and say a wartime. You're overly down on the finale episode overly down and be is that he overly positive over. I'm overly positive this is all about you and see is that you've already started doing another. They're serious. We Re Watch. I four finishing the Seinfeld rewatch. I'll guess a okay. Let's clip number twenty five okay. I'm only doing game of thrones. Rewatch did Start Watch somehow got talked into that you literally always I will never do another rewatch. It's too long. It's too much of a command four we engine before we even ended you. Start a new one. I am cest pushing a podcast cast boulder uphill. Yeah I should have known better. I should've known I should've known that one and I will never do another rewatch. Watch podcast again the words that take that to the bank Jordan Kayla guarantee that you were going to win this game and you're and you are trailing by three so we'll that one thousand nine questions to go all of a sudden. I thought we're going to be done in a few alligator. Keep going down twenty nine to play. Yes yeah okay. Let's let's go to. I will never do another unless it's like like five episodes of its fleabag. I hear fleetest except so she's really I'll do scab. That's it. I'm not doing other rewatch yeah. That's it okay so we're GONNA go. We're going to go back to the Chinese. He's restaurant this Akiva. What movie is Rob surprised to hear that sorry? This is. That's that's the wrong question. AKIVA AKIVA really enjoyed Jerry stand up at the end of the episode. What was the topic of his set? Was it a waiting in line at a restaurant tennis. See Cannibalism de the difference between men and women which episode is this. This is the Chinese he's restaurant okay well. It's an insane answer of it's waiting on the restaurant. I'm going to say the difference between men and women okay. Let's clip number thirty. It gets cannibalism yeah. I thought this was funny. Yeah it's it's a little absurd about how the thing about being accountable about. It'd be hard to get some good sleep. If someone's going to eat you yes and he also has a good line about This is good who is this. I remember that line yeah I for the podcast purposes I liked it better wins and goes away. 'cause there's not really much talk about yeah. That was funny. Yeah remember that okay all right that we've gotten to a little bit of a Rut here in a little while I remember for our listener you can always check the show notes and skip ahead to the mailbox. Put it there so the the the next question this is this is for rob. Rob Lowe's introduced podcast with here are two guys who blink what did he say in this podcast is described himself and Akiva two guys who will never eat an egg roll off your plate be two guys who always get called Cart C. Two guys who are very very hungry. Da Eighty two guys who will never wait in line to be seated at a table. I mean I think I would get the answer right for almost any episode from the Seinfeld plus. I'll say you guys will never eat an egg roll off. Your plate knows my actually the seed you guys who are very very hungry not not not a great one. I think that was in your best but this is an impossible question. I keep gone. You wrote that one Jordan I do not I cannot do. Six Genie wishes you might have slept here in other hall night. Go through the shower or episodes eight to five out of like half the genie wishes or three genie wishes yeah if you trick Nicole into watching one episode of Scam with you saying like everyone says the best show this could be our new binge. I'm sure after one episode episode ditch it. I don't you get out of three g witches by I don't think I can I'm like on a TV. I'd have to hook up a laptop to really I mean that's your biggest guess problem you could do it. You'll be like it's so good. It doesn't matter you don't think scam streaming. I don't. I'm not in English okay yeah now. I don't know all right. Keep going going okay so this is this is for a Kiva this is we're going to go back to to rene APP so Akiva. What did you say should be sent to ROB's great grab? What sorry what did you say should be sent to rob's great-grandchildren fifty years? The May twenty second ninety Andy eight episodes of Rene A. B. These survivor Amazon. DVD's chester spreadsheets ranking these seinfeld podcast episodes dea clip of ROB's best three minutes. I don't remember this. I'M GONNA say clip best three minutes. Okay rob play a clip number. Seven babies civil like one of the fans is can make like a thirty second like highlight video. Maybe somebody'll watch. That's not a bad idea. Yeah just give give them rob's in like fifty years. Someone Make Rob's like best three minutes. Eh and I'll be lucky if they get one minute and then said that his great grandchildren okay oh well. That's a good reminder for people that we haven't been working on that. I mean he's like Jason. Curtis Rivera like is their youngest with the musical yeah yeah we'll we'll. We'll America cut a lot of American again. Damian could do it for this episode and that's basically what this episode is. If you put all the clips together might your best three minutes so not so far not that's a sure maybe not maybe not okay so you have a nine to five lead question before rob suggested Leprechaun to go on the wheel which would become a legendary Rene staple which similar Robin Akiva next because it's already known for how bad it is was a googlies be troll to st cramps deeper democ Shop Chuck Antar is my question. Yes be troll to now. Are What's your Clinton number ten okay problem with that rob. I don't know how familiar are you familiar with troll two or the or the documentation I am familiar with the legend of no known that it's bad it's like yeah not ours anymore like it's almost like yeah. It's it's a little hack yeah. It is hacked because like it would have been funny to do you know before documentary but at this point like they're making movies about how bad the movies like yeah. We know it's bad. It probably wasn't even supposed to be good to begin with like yeah. I mean that's like frozen yogurt levels but I keep I'm so desperate I can't I can't not take the point Y- by the way the whoever made that question the room needs to be one of the four choices like the other choices choices were abominable. Shows should goalies be in the questions what was in the room one of the choices at least that'll throw you off the scent and said it was a similar movie. I guess googlies Crompton Bertrand heard never heard of it. I've heard of the other ones I've heard of crisis and bird democ shocking tire yeah maybe per democ shocking shocking tears should go in the crappy movie diaper many not so we don't add stuff to the movie diaper or the Fishbowl it just it'll run out one day and then we're done so you're not. You're not adding anything anymore as far as I I haven't had anything in in six months. I think let the things that are in their crappy movie diaper. I'd like it to finish it and then we could add like we. It's not gone when it's done but I think like the five or six that are in there and give them a shot. I think we'd be open minded like sitting out wow what is actually with the fishbowl especially with the fishbowl is bloated but this this six movies in the crappy. You have to challenge movie so it's like you WanNa come in the crap movie diaper a great but you have to beat out north to get in with me. I I like this idea. Let's say this four that there should be maybe five movies in the crappy movie diaper twelve things in the fishbowl like I like this idea of that. There is a war one must go basically get down to and then if something nothing new wants to come in with the bump something I'm challenging this movie and then we'll put a poll up. Okay great the polar minder okay in Akiva. You have a nine two six lead. We're going to go to a a this is going to be a question for you about rob. If Rob Whistle was elected mayor of of Los Angeles I pledge would be a make parking in front of someone's driving. A felony be put Larry David on the walk of fame see opened an investigation into to the veracity of frozen yogurt being healthier than Ice Cream d get rid of everybody's lawn and replace it all with artificial turf say the C one because this is the Non Fat Yogurt episode right so it seems really on team. It is the Non Fat Yogurt episode but that's also why it is not the correct answer so the answer is actually no clip for this but a D- Get redan Cuba thanks so much. They look so good yeah I didn't. I didn't remember that conversation yeah. I'm a fake lawn guy. Oh yeah okay so this night to six. The score is still nine nine six. You're wrong about that one okay. Let's go to just GonNa Order Jordan Robert Clip I got I got to pick up the gold the gold yes. I've been picking out the goal the goal so far in the snowbirds Brazil around yes I am opening up an inquiry into this has been an issue in the past that sometimes Jordan changes the order of the questions to make sure that I get harder it or questions I don't want to I want to win fair and square I I'd rather lose and have robbed not husband Jeannie then win with an sis your good friend no. I'm I'm basically doing randomly but the thing is doing and then rob could just play a clip like what was the thought process. That's what I thought. We decided like hey rob. We we got overruled. He audible. I who's I don't think we should be able to get overruled in the future of I two against one even if he was an equal to us on this shop I mean would you even know if I went an order. You wouldn't even know we could tell yeah okay so this is actually do this is actually the next the next question that's that's on the list why did and this is for rob why did once confused bubble bath like with for body wash and end up rubbing on himself a the brand name was misleading and his daughter put it in the wrong place be he wasn't wearing his glasses in the bottles. Were the were the same color see the smells were similar and the light in the bathroom is broken. D. Was a prank for April fool's Day and he was too tired to notice torn between A and B. I don't know if it's more convincing less convincing that a is two things that it's one thing and also another thing so I I will say that it was B B he wasn't wearing his glasses and the bottles were the same color no clip for this but you are correct as it is nine. Two seven rob is is catching up big problem being blind in the shower. I all the time. How long ago was this Akiva unique unique goggles? How long has had to be every day all the same color? I can't tell I just put it. I put my body put it in my hair. It doesn't matter we have a lot of products. A lot of women in my house and I just put on whatever's closest to me. happens every single day. I'm blind okay so let's go. Let's go back to two Seinfeld the shower head we have this is going to be for Kiva. What what did rob say was the best way to anger someone when you're intentionally messing up their food order in a restaurant you please the wrong plate in front of each person? Be You cook them. Well done see you forget drink order de Mayo to the food. I don't remember this but I'm GonNa go with Mayo. Let's see your quest clip number seventeen rav okay. I don't even know the answer to this. How do you make people mad uncle? Leo Has Gotten a Burger. He wanted medium. All you got it medium rare and he feels like that maybe the cook at monks could be an anti semi Yeah No. I think he assumes the cook is an Anti Semite. Yes yes that's what they do. They know how to make the Hamburger Erkki yeah. They you know they intentionally. You know you ask for well done but if they really hated Leo and he asked for medium medium well why not give it to him rare. Why only one degree down you know see I think you could always cook it more? If you really hated him do it well done on if he wants it. Medium well go all the way can't undo well done right but I guess if you're the cook you know also don't want to get fired so if you burn it and he shows it to the manager then then then the cook gets in trouble whereas here shows the manager he just assumes Oh. This is a whiny old man okay so it was it was the cooking well done so that's a good point. I mean you can't you can't clamming cook it. Clip cutters done a good the job so far up. Yes I agree highlight so I disagree. I think the questions of the highlight the Clinton eclipse eclipse cigarette eclipse it is the second highlight who can indu cut that one that was a cut that one works on the side yeah it was it was either Willer Damian. I don't remember who cut each individual clip. Okay Okay so this is for rob. What categories this dispossess Seinfeld shower okay what topic Robin Akiva to say the fans liked hearing about from the previous week in the Pre Seinfeld Banter a rob cable bill the Akita's water bill C Robs Power Bill de at the RHA website bill I'll say that people light hearing about the cable bill. I'll play a clip number fifteen okay. Everyone wants to hear more about your cable bill by that I mean what are we talking about. How I have too many channels and then I tried to call and I tried to get rid of it? Yeah people wanted to hear you like okay. This is getting too boring and technical people like no. It wasn't boring. We're technical enough. People wanted more. Yeah people want more about my cable bill because I did. I switched. At and T. TV UH I like it. It's not over the Internet. Should we just do more more on your cable right now. Apparently you guys that's what those Hicks. It's what they wanna hear but I also had. At and T. U. Verse Internet and TV and then when I took one away they like triple the prices on me and then I had to call up and break up with them but tell them that I'm keeping a different one of their services but I guess they're not that connected because they didn't seem that happy on the phone yeah. The streaming wars have really thrown a wrench into this stuff. Yeah what's the score. The score is ninety eight census to this happens. I'm like the mets I'm GonNa give you like a little a little hope and then you're gonNA blow it in Kenya like four hundred right now okay so let's let's go back to the Wilson. Romo's has been asking questions and you want so much neater than south right now as we speak in the getting shelled with needle on them yes yes I mean that for all intents purposes that the mets season is like the mets are mathematically eliminated by the time. You're listening to this podcast. Oh no question I mean by the time this podcast is undone reporting probably possibly all right okay so this for Akiva. This is a question about rob. A A Florida activity did rob say was overrated and coal doesn't like either a Disney trip be walking the boardwalk see swimming with Dolphins de riding riding a fan vote. I don't even like some of these. Choices are weird. I'M GONNA say Disney a okay. Let's clip number eleven. Okay originalist is trying to tell his mom about how she could swim with. Dolphins does a Stelle seem like a kind of person that would swim with Alvin and the type of things you do one time right uh-huh yeah overrated swimming with fins there. You go all right so you are. You're you're spell is continuing to here yeah one the time I did go like like I held the fin the Dolphin and went for a ride that was kind of exciting yeah but overall like another time. I was just like in the pool with them. They like it very cold. The last shrinkage going on Dolphin. Shrink no okay okay all right so this is this is for rob. This is about Akiva what type of food did AKIVA and his wife considered eating from the table of another restaurant. Guest in this is from the of course the Chinese restaurant episode instead of Seinfeld. Was it a dumplings be pizza seek initials D. empanadas. I think I think it was an Empanada. Let's hear clip number twenty eight. They were finished already. Ask for the check but there was still sitting there and my wife and I started discussing like would it be weird if we ask them for the empanadas because that's basically what we would have just ordered that and would've saved us you you know whatever it was and twenty bucks and and you know and some time and we could have just eating that food and ever would have been happy. I think that this is one of the most romantic stories you've ever told about your wife. I really think it is guys. Were like you wanted to you. Express your wife. Hey I'm going to eat that other tables food that they're throwing away and your wife wasn't like gross disgusting. Who are you get away from me it like she was on board Jordan? Do you also know what it's Rav. It's not cast Rob Rob just now on the clip that listen to that yeah yeah I would agree. That was the most romantic moment we've had in our fifteen years of marriage marriage. You guys were like soulmates in that moment. Yeah I guess like she. We have very little in common but I guess she is on the same page as me usually food wise I'm you know a quantity over quality guy I. She's not but like you know I I but yeah in the moment and also she knew the table mates like she had gone to like elementary school with the girl so it was not asked not as good of a story uh-huh but they shouldn't smoke fifteen years juice out new the person's name so wasn't like that and saying that okay all right you back to soulmates yeah okay. I almost dumplings. I knew I knew it was some sort of like I i. It was a Mexican restaurant. I heard Empanada not I remember that story yeah. It was a beautiful story. Yeah Tales those type Jordan what score it's nine to nine we are we are in a dead heat right now and we're going to go back to the Seinfeld eld finale one question you guys there are there are many questions left. I it's it's a matter of how many questions lessons you guys were. So what's the score. What's the score nine nine nine two nine? We are tied and this is the end of the round. That was the end of the round. Yeah Go Rob Plato Eleven when when you know you've ever get eleven I win. You have to win by two. No you don't have to win by two okay so I have nine yeah awesome. That sounds good okay so this is this is going to be a question for Akiva where did rob suggest for the location of the the Seinfeld live show show if only ten people would be attending a Chester's house be a hotel room see the original Superman Restaurant de Mendis restaurant. Oh this for me. Yes this is real so really again. Sorry I thought it was rob's questionnaires so where did rob suggest for the location of the Seinfeld live show. If only ten people would be attending a Chester's house. Be Yeah Tell Room see the original Superman Restaurant de Mendis restaurant. I think we consider all those except the original Superman restaurant Chester's house but just moved right before the Seinfeld felt finale. I think we didn't really look into Mendis but that would have been a good idea. We mentioned that rob. I'M GONNA say Mendis okay. Let's clip number twenty three okay so that's what we're trying to figure out because if it's like ten people we could just be in like a hotel room somewhere well. That sounds wrong. It's definitely not going to be ten. Ah We've already had way more than yeah. If it's two people we could be in a hotel room but I did. I manifest the sleepover podcast you did. I don't remember I didn't remember that but I think he did. That is what I was thinking what I what I heard except the last year did not listen to the Seinfeld podcast and she and it was her idea uh-huh. I guess I just been trying to get ten people in a hotel room for years. Yeah I guess although we ended up so I don't want to spoil what happens. Yeah we still we'll have a whole podcast to listen about that so rob. You can take the lead here. This is going to be your your question from also from this two one five we I got to win and we were just talking about manifesting future renounce wiggle ideas who does a key say would be the surprise entrance to the royal rumble of people people who testified against the core for was it a Babu Bhatt. Be The bubble boy see George Steinbrenner de the soup Nazi I yeah I don't think I understand the question so Kiva says that of he was talking about the people who who testified against the core four and he said that one of them if it was a royal rumble instead of a court case would be surprise surprise entrant so was it Babu Bhatt the bubble boy George Steinbrenner or the Soup Nazi question. I WANNA say was the soup Nazi I felt he gets his own mm sort of moment of coming in so the Soup Nazi Aka a is correct and rob. You are one point away here a great comeback. You're up tend to nine and let's go to for the final round about this bill rounds for the file rounds. It might be the final round we don't know but since ROB's appoint away. Do you want to do this. Do you guys want to choose your category. You choose your own category for the question. I don't know Jordan. You're in charge here yeah. We don't make more complicated well. I keep I feel like a- AKIVA has accused me of jumping around the question. Jordan wouldn't just nine the nine the final category if we if rob if rob is correct is GonNa be the last one because we said we're planning to eleven. It's nice. It's ten to nine tennis. You say the winning team score. I I have it on my sheet is as okay whatever so much work to like switch the numbers in your head. That's another thing I did over the weekend I did I did go to the team the thirty last week rub yeah so it is okay tend to nine. Rob Rob is in the lead okay then I'll just I'll just pick the category we're. We're out of the in that category. We only have one recap question Russian blacks that we can't go to that because you guys are shooting from the same category so I'm GonNa do what we'll do the Akita rob questions. I think these events are fun so we're GonNa Negoti Akitas question. It's going to be a question about rob. What did rob do for work in the summer of one thousand nine hundred and this is from an an APP? Did he a lifeguard he be working to catering hall. See working a target deep podcast about the real world. The answer is yes so do without reading D- please say ABC again okay. Was it lifeguard. be working a catering hall see we're GONNA target. I'm going to say catering hall a catering hall. We don't have a clip. You are correct. You have ten points at Reiver's sister Nino win right. If you get this you husband genie deal okay and I have October this if you like this dynamic namic you're GonNa love one episode of wish I'm back. We have to do a rene episode any twist episode in the same week. I believe we have someone in mind for the first episode of Real punishment for we have to do it this week. I mean tradition question. Should there be Rene episode and and also the tuition that in like six day. I watched the listen okay you. It's not going to be for a while because the Jewish holidays start. I'm going okay so this is this is for the win. This is a this is a question from the seinfeld finale episode. It's about Akiva on the Seinfeld felt finale podcast. How did AKIVA describe the everyone? Everybody loves Raymond Finale A KOSHER BE TRAE F- Aka non-kosher see SEE PARV AKA neither meat nor dairy or D- debate like now. I really when I'm relief to lose. I really hate the joke answers okay. I feel like that the I know that the everybody loves Raymond an finale was just fine. It was like a regular episode. They didn't like Raymond didn't die or anything so can I hear the choices is one more time yes was it a Kosher Be Trae F- Aka non-kosher See Aka neither meat nor dairy or D- debate. It's like it's either kosher or neither meat or the area that it was the right like work. Yes I know what he everyone's Raymond Finale was. I'm confused about the kosher terminology who wrote discretionary L. Yeah this no. This was actually a me question. I wrote this okay all right so you would have done a better job okay. I'll say it was a kosher. Okay play clip number twenty one it was well done but it wasn't really pushing the envelope or changing the discourse of the way that television shows were being made at that time no my people would say was part of it was very vanilla but delicious delicious delicious vanilla okay so incorrect. We have a tie game here so we're in the in the final round unless last so if I keep of course of course Jordan let's do one more normal round of it's still tied. We'll do a fast finger type question. Is that fine right okay okay. I think that's a good idea yeah all right so this is going to. We're going to go back to the well of rob questions that he has to answer so question. Okay here we go after appearing on survivor. What was rob hired to do? In order to receive free tickets at Lowe's movie theaters for an entire year. This is from the renowned episode was in a you record the video shown before the movie informing movie movie goers of rules and exit locations of the theater was be attend a party of lows executives who happen to be a survivor a fan see eat bugs cooked by the author of a Cookbook de Create a database for all of Chester spreadsheets answers. No I know I don't because it's like when you fifty fifty who wants to marry a question but there's the two ones you know we're still there. I feel like being see both have literally I in. Let's let's see is like a made up thing in my mind. I'm going to say be though I'm answering clip number one. There was a guy that had a cookbook where he was going to eat that he cooked bugs this guy and they hired me because I was on survivor in exchange for appearing at the with with this guy then I was going to get a free movie pass to Lowe's theaters for me and guest anytime I want okay all right so Akiva you are in there also a party you went to wasn't that Mars right into a party. I thought you went to like a party and those crickets. It's didn't you have a the worst moments I just felt like the unlike eh looked like a geek at a freak. Show what I've become as my I went at the college and now I'm eating bugs on the street so people can be like grossed out by me. I feel you told some party because he had like very few obligations for that that that deal when you went to used to party with your magic eight ball I'm actually calling shenanigans. You also had to go to a party with your magic eight ball those executive -secutive yeah I want them to go to a party for the new K Y Jelly warming liquid that they were in New York City to go there walk around around with the magic eight ball so but those Jordan accidentally asked a really good question because unless you heard that story in the same episode Jordan I mean I've heard the story because I've listened to all the all all the Nabet Seinfeld episode. I did not remember that particular story because really made it a trap in both those stories were things he had to do by. Okay okay so this is for the win rob. This question about Akiva Akiva came up with a game for rob to play on the May Twenty Second Nineteen Ninety eight episode. WHO's podcast if you take the the rules of the game from was A? Aj Mass be Mike Bloom and Liana Boris see Jordan Kayla's De Adam Corolla played a game on the podcasts. I have no idea by the way all four of these on the May Twenty Eighth Nineteen Ninety Eight podcast yes twenty seconds or Mike Piazza Trade I mean. I don't think that there's a I'm GonNa say it's Adam Corolla. Let's hear clip number three okay for the game or no. We a little game with you. I'm going to read. I think you play this actually on the Adam Corolla show Oh and it was a game where where you had to read the plot the plots of movies and rap at the guests the movie was so rob congratulations you win the game. Let's not not not ten to eleven not since the veils and wait one. That's always the bills and these comebacks weight off. My six genie wishes. That would have been crazy yeah that she is nine or no because now she's you know absolved. Let me put it this way yeah. She was mad when she had three genie wishes some but she will be mad that she doesn't have any anymore. I feel it'll be far more mad. They had zero gene wish yes that's true yes all right so now all right so rob is out of the gene wish bed and I go oh man I had some good ideas for forcing a gas now after four years wish to two ish I will say I will say I have wanted Komo twist for a while but I was curious to see who you're going to get on the show. We'll give sort of neutral for you should give me some softballs at the groove on on should go with one but no okay we will hear from Akiva later on this season on this week in survivor history now before we go to Kayla's you stay in for the mailbag Yup okay all right. No are we kicking off the ordinary saying for the mail bag I could stay. He did a good. He worked hard and we gave him a very short turnaround did a good job okay. 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Ag Asia don't forget that Promo Code podcast one for your fifty percents bonus then online that ag your online sportsbook experts all right we are going to get into our mailbag and I'm very excited for this that I have had a unsuccessful sleepover party with Kiva this summer we're having a very successful sleepover party at my house this week with a man that all of the big brother fans hands no very well probably like us like him way more than than maybe like uh Sierra joining us now for for his debut other than the rumble is Mr Tara Armstrong I really I really shouldn't even be on here considering my performance in the Rosie O. K. Hey did Lee throw you out. Is that what happened you know no I threw lita out of media that was of you yeah okay and then also still with US Jordan K. Louis Jordan one of one of Elliot's victims in the Royal Rumble. Yes okay all of us were in the royal rumble and so I think we've tied the record here of the most people on the the mailbag right or is this a new record person episode but then that that lady died in the Oregon trail. We didn't let them think okay. All right and Taryn has been very very busy over the summer non up-to-date on all things run APP so it's going to be a little bit of a wild ride Taryn a day rob. Yes always superfan. Yes okay good Taryn other than the two we mentioned named one name one episode we've done you did the fan fiction one. What is it called sloughed? The you know whether you read the stuff. Mary was on it now now. Mary was supposed to three tight she never did. She's never she's never done it. She was suppose you she supposedly. She's been ninety percent of the way through for many for busy Guy Hi yes. I'm such a fan that I knew about a show. That didn't even develop. There's a development it's like I said they want Beatles song and it's like a song. That's like dress in a warehouse. It's back the wheel waiting room right. Yeah okay so let's go so we have Taryn the Mount Renat more where Kiva is going to give us a four new ideas that were have been submitted by the listeners of course people. Maybe you'll have an idea. Maybe maybe we'll be hearing things and your robot brain will kick out. Hey it should be a podcast. You'll have to wait to email us need a podcast at rob as a website dot com okay all right and then maybe even Jordan Kayla ideas ideas for you know. She's been very busy. He wrote fifty three questions for the road this weekend. Robin Kiva history quiz he plays and he is on the production of eighteen different survivor fake seasons so I don't know if he has time for that yeah sometime. Yes okay all right so AKIVA. Where do you want to start today well? Let's let's eat Taryn. I've a couple ideas that I think Taryn. you know one of them. You could even be involved in but also some of them. He will be familiar with you might have some takes on how about this we discussed briefly last week and idea of me and you rob going up against other podcasts duos and this was an idea originally sent in by crystalline coal and I think this is fleshed out a lot this week and I think it might be ready to go on the wheel. If you're up for for it rob okay. It's called pod versus pot. Okay it will be me in you against any number of are achieved podcast duos. We had about five after eight duos already right in and say I'm up for it. You Know Haley Namie Mike Josh Mike and Mike and Fifty Mike and Liana Mike and Fifty different people but Terence here of Taron wants to choose your Taryn. Who's your favorite of all your co host all okay? I love them all equally in the sense that I hate them all okay but if Taron wanted to choose Lido or of what the truth Brent or or Melissa Melissa Melissa has a a hall pass to come on the show whenever she wants. I don't know if you knew that. Is that a money in the bank money in the. I don't think it's a hall pass. It's the same idea and I don't think he's free to traverse the halls of yes yes exactly Melissa's went and Hannah Shapiro has all pass would be we like she can come on. This podcast in Britain Taryn can't say anything or get mad. If it was a hall pass we'd be list of five podcasts that she can go on could cheat on Taranto pockets without anyway so there's a whole number of deals. I think your idea last week when this was briefly raised is that there's a separate wheel wheel of ideas and we got a lot of game ideas. Let me just throw game ideas people sent in the CELEB- Networth game where we get celebrity's net worth one must go where the person who the host of this show asks John John He gives them four things and won the match John John and we have to get Jones mind. Yes I love that one. Get it to judges minor. Guess what he decided must go. Yes we have the audio audio clips or he's. He's on the podcast no audio audio clips. I don't know how well these people on the podcasts at that point the host sits five people on the podcast already but I think there's a great idea we could and if it works we can do it a hundred times because there's innumerable number of duos in the world I think we should put this right on the wheel. What do you think you need more? Do you okay so that Taryn that Ah Kiva has the throne something out here now. I'm GonNa try to process what we're saying. So the idea is the like we are going to take on a duo Oh in games and then there's a wheel of games or their round. That was your idea games. I mean there's ten options and because I don't think that any go ideas for the the Games until I heard that guests John John's one must go wrong enough yet yeah. Yes I agree no. I'm not gonNA say him can spoil them so so game night comes up on the wheel and then how long versus Pod Okay and how were we figuring out than is there a wheel in game night that we're spending for each round. I think the host will come up with maybe like six or seven games uh-huh and then we'll just play however we have time for three or four. We'll play the wheel comes like they'll come over guide hair wheel the wheel sometimes they're wheels within the wheel but yes yes correct sometimes the their spots on the wheel that launch other south mechanism. How many wheels that year in a row? I don't know it also doesn't need to be a wheel like we have a crappy movie diaper. We have a fish bowl. Show them the fish rob of of ideas this season three episode seven Fishbowl of a different. TV shows to recap season three episode seven of so if we said Hey Taryn it's me me and robbers you an leader next week. You'd be up for that big brother season's over over Yeah Okay and how are we picking though the the person that we're taking on hosts a tricky just because I are we picking it and and then letting the people know next week those in a wheel this is not yet ready to go on and you know but we have a week to to iron out because there's a incubation period. Remember a bracket and you do the whole tournament so there's a racket to figure out who we're GONNA play favorite Taryn at everyone has been ranked but would just make enemies. They're tearing. That's the point and an Akita eliminated early like what's going to happen on the pass. Ask Them Well Ryan. Robin Diva are the final battle exactly what we're waiting for them. The problem is the availabilities where there might be one week where I thought we just pick yeah. I think okay well. Let's just name a host and the host have a we don't know we'll be surprised and the host will Rodeo who it's going to be a good idea. I'll give them I already of a bunch of different duos. I also have one where it's like. Mike's Choice because Mike Bloom is thirty different PODCASTS uh-huh so he can pick which co host Leon it could be his wife. It could be anybody so I think what we need is named. WHO's the host of game night? Who's the person that's that's on with us? That's in charge of putting all the games together another person who is it why I don't want to say just in case they it but I have a good person for this. I have the right person and then we can add to game night. Maybe game nights things things can people can keep submitting things to be added to game night. You're like the name pod versus Pod you like game night better pod versus pod. No that's terrible because it's me and you go get another attack attack. You like better padres potter game night. Game is better game explains. What is yeah that does case? We're going up but it's US versus another podcast. There has to be stakes right. Loudon versus pod sounds like cheesy seventy s movie yeah yeah. I don't know about padres game night all right fine but I think should go on the wheel. We still have a week to iron some stuff out okay. I'm a little nervous to put it on but we can. We already have like ten good Games. We have an endless supply of do. Do we have games what are they. I don't want to spoil all the Games. We have the art van delay game where you guessed like let's say Jordan cases during college the those bullets pretend he's the host guy and he says like Armenia what what what are their main imports and exports the number one import and export is art van delay famously aimlessly importer terrible game. Yeah people said that to Charon. You seinfeld Guy Yeah I am. I'm not nearly as expert as as you too but but I was at work yeah but that's very boring I think the whole Armenian imports and exports. Let's let's taking submissions for J. More but we have enough with what came first. which was the original pitch for this where it's like you know? What can I Mcdonald's Burger King things like that? That was what was pitched to US last week yeah. I think there's exciting but Joe Johns Moscow is a good great yeah. That's really need like I feel like we need a few more ideas for the wheel. Okay I think we let's put on by next week. We'll have plenty of save game game nights on the wheel a hold on all all right so Taryn when something gets onto the wheel it gets all right. That's so far had okay number two on on the what's this called about Roy Moore matter in America. I it's very late here and our net more mon- you gotTA. You GotTa know this show better like I do. That's true I have. I have a stand here and I'm. I'm getting very nervous. Yes okay here rob. Here's a great pitch this. This is from Susan Rob Akiva have a spin off okay. He and here's the idea rob Akiva are going to deputize a new podcast hard cast as their official spin. Oh listeners are going to submit five ten minutes samples of a perspective you know essentially a pilot perspective respective podcasts and Robin Akiva will pick a new show that is officially their spin off this. You guys can decide the stakes but one one idea is giving them a ten episode run on if let's say was about a reality unwrap ups or Porsche recaps or just you guys promoted for ten weeks or it just gets one one episode in the nap feed and then after that it's just your official spinoff so ponder the spin off but I think that it should be about trying to figure out like the breakout characters this show like. I feel like it's weird to have spinoff. Listeners are just coming up with their NAP inspired ideas. The sounds like even officer nap inspired yeah. This is like we're like green lighting a random podcast Jordan and what do you think I think could be interesting. I think it needs to be workshop a little bit more but if listeners so it's going to be a competition between them is it can be bracket style style where the podcast the podcast that they're sending in his going up against each other. I really think it's GonNa it's GonNa depend on if the submissions are good if they're not good. It's not gonNA GONNA be such an interesting podcast and we're listening to a five minute podcast on the air. I think so maybe we'll listen to the best three or four I dunno Taryn wouldn't sitting tight high risk high reward yeah I my first thought was what makes this off of of this but yeah these this is like pilot season we're gonNA in a green light a pilot for a new podcast with a Z. N. Like Michael. You're again that would be the first episode of different PODCASTS but like affiliate spinoff would be like a conspiracy pod with Antonio Meszaros. Its own show the name at the issue because this sounds more like so you think you could podcast right yeah maybe the issue is with the name and it's really just us like picking out a new podcast for the RTP network the family of origin network. I mean I mean this is literally like you know what networks do and then they get pilots submitted yeah. I don't think it's a bad idea. What's the what's the big nothing if everything sucks yeah? Do we want them doing any work. We want to listen to and then crap on people's podcast that they made it. Is I mean we have to be mean. I guess we could just be like agree. Read that. It's it's hard you only you. Only you only choose a select few an elite right if right we're only this is not the early rounds of American idol where it's time to like. There's not going to be a William Hong Can they do a five minute podcast. I think they do a half power but they cut us like the five best minutes. Okay I mean. How many are they listening to this? Yeah I think what we do is I'll we condemn and deputize other. GP podcasters to who I know a few already will be way up for it. who will listen and they'll you know so we don't with the listen like the the thirty minutes of Twenty Different Podcasts Vale. We'll have a couple of people rate each one and then and then we'll take the best four or five. I'm sure Sally Splash Sherwood Green lighting in new podcast relining idea founded the podcasts were hand picking one. It's like an artisanal podcast for scotus year. Doesn't it actually does the winner actually podcast network it gets one in our feed and then we'll we'll promoted for the first ten weeks or something. We'll mention it in our show. I'm going to incredible it can go on social recaps are but that's not a first right of refusal but I were jared. Take it no. We're not sure if we don't take it. We'll blame Scott saying don't don't play Scotland. Yeah I think people would be. I think people would be excited about it. I'm still on the bank will get a lot of submissions. What do you think Taryn aw I I don't know I think it's it's it's maybe a little bit more difficult than people think? It's you to make a good quality podcast. I think uh-huh might run into some some audio issues with some of the submissions Um yeah but but there are a lot of talented people in the audience certainly no doubt Yes yes I duNno. It's it could be interesting but you know what what what's what's the episode of the podcast are we. Are you going to take a eight five five minute episodes. You're forty five minutes of your own podcast and be spent listening to other podcasts. Wait five times five is not forty five that is not nearly forty five correct currently running on very little sleep. It's been a long season. I'm twenty. Five minutes is much better than that. You're correct but I think five is like if we got five submissions. That would be like we'd be over the moon. I think even three is okay. Let's just hold off when we we just added the game night. I feel sold off. Let's let a week go by and see what the listeners say about this yeah. If a bunch of people excited than we know maybe we have like a user pace took oh by that. We're GONNA get a lot of submissions. Would you wanNA take submissions before putting it on the wheel and then if you have like a lot of a lot of good content may be then people know people aren't shy to contact. That's like send you know. Send us a tweet an email saying hey. I'll definitely submit if you do this. Okay it doesn't mean we're committing but you know we'll get. We'll figure we're going to get all right so that's number two number three three. This is from NICO FOR MINNESOTA. He says Nintendo Video Games are trash the same concept as the Oregon trail basically with classic Nintendo Games love the podcast had a ball at the live show in Minneapolis. We met Nico yeah so I guess we take a popular unintended video game and we play it like a one time thing so we're playing the legend Zelda on a pile dot com through the Levin and or Mario Brothers or something. It's gotTa be multiplayer Yeah multiplayer game. What's not which is dot com non multi player I would? I've read recently was that if the second player takes the controller they can control the duck did you did you ever hear that. No K. Remember hearing that as I haven't played Dot com since since I was one of those fake things those fake I duNNo. I don't know if there I think I need to hear more felt like a pitch of like a like. If there's like a game that would be fun to play on the podcast but no play US playing Mario Jio brothers on a pot on an audio podcast right well. We've had a lot of luck with video games. So far row rumbles one of our most popular demand and one was fun in Oregon trail Israel was maybe what are we gonNA say. Oh there's goes Marielle. John Really is Mario. Party is is a pretty good good one that if it was like maybe a four person you bring in Cima some guests you play Mario Party full of betrayals and and and and random luck and lots of frantic mini games like backward could be some in the past when we have not been actually the Oregon in trail we did ourselves but the rumble and when the Madden football game we watched a video of the game that was already played and when we cry yes happening happening so I don't know I mean maybe there's something there for classic Nintendo but I don't. I don't think there's enough there to green light. Nintendo Games are triggering right now. I agree okay okay last one of the day. Here's a couple throwbacks that are being pitched with new guests okay. TLC shows are trash. This was what I forgot last week. Okay are are Los Angeles. Respondent Alley Lascher went out to speak to handle Shapiro Hanish Bureau said she will come on and talk about. TLC shows trash in in particular ninety day fiance which you know is one of my favorite shows. What do you think about that? TLC Hanash appear. I'd be fine with that. I mean listen to Haddish Bureau. WanNa talk about anything so if it wasn't with Hash Bureau I'd be a little bit more skeptical but I feel like that. That's kind of trashy shell so I let's make sense with the hall pass you can't you can't say no to this right if she want money in the bank pass. It's a money thing I think Allie Lascher who I have to listen to. She says that we'd basically I think she agree with Jordan. I think we have whatever she says okay the only issue she was that it's a two hour show so we really have to cut. I do wonder if instead of watching an episode where maybe rob would be lost if there's a really good like youtube clip of the ten craziest things that's that's ever happened on the show and we just watched that okay so this is going onto the wheel. It's not like a sub wheel of blank shows or trash. TLC shows are trash while we need a second one for a sub wheel like it's not it's right now. Hang up but let me or let me pitch the second one alley lascher dry if you drink every time we mentioned are today dead. She says she is a friend who was on the house hunters international so when we were talking about. HGTV shows are trash. She can get a somebody who got their house on the show would be a very good podcast guess she said Yeah and when they're going to do about how centers I don't know if it's an expose but we'll watch watch his episode and maybe a second episode of well. The only things a Lotta people want us do that Brady show but now I'm hearing it kind of sucks. Oh I can't imagine Tara. Would you listen to podcasts that was robin. AKIVA interview a person that was on house hunters it depends is on the the person that you're interviewing is this is this a person that enjoyed their experience and looking like share one bad experience. That's right. I'm not sure I mean they. They have a house. I don't know I she said it was a funny episode Jordan time eating a lot what you've done blinkered our trash. They've been good episodes. I've enjoyed them. I think it's you couldn't just house hunters. You'd have to get a couple other. Hd Shows Until L. L. tells us those for for that episode but I think if you're talking about the episode and sort of roasting it and then you bring this person on sort of like the supplement the conversation about it. I think it would be a good podcast but I agree with Aaron if they're like super positive about their experience. It's not GonNa be very interesting super positive yeah I yeah I think it's I. I think it's something like I think it should go on the wheel. I think it's the kind of thing where you find three or three. HD TV shows and I would not be opposed to the to the subway for playing what's Hannah Shapiro or Allie lashes friend. who who was on a Shapiro Known Commodity Alley slashers friend is all for one with Alli lashes friends one. I guess with Miss Yes okay all right. So why don't we put. TLC I'll see shows are trash on the wheel and then if it works out then when we're looking for the next thing then they really have no connection they you know right well. How many blame the wheel right now? You don't need to have line. I'm just saying that it's no real impact on like saying like Hannah crush. That doesn't mean that allies friend. It's GONNA crush it yeah and who different novacaine pages you. I'm on the same page all right so we're saying Shapiro on the wheel. Though that's that's GonNa be a nightmare to we're gonNA tell us you are out of town for the next six months yeah. What are you gonNA? Do your thing okay one time. Yeah okay all right. Was that the fourth thing for Marinette more okay yes all right Jordan. Did you have an idea that you want the pitch today. Well it's not my I might original idea to ideas from one of the members of my what we'll say members of the family. Even I can't really confirm or deny if ah we're related or not uh so she came up with a lot of the Trivia questions he said this is not a trivia question but it's a mailbag I have there are so many flavors of Oreos now Pumpkin cheesecake Red Velvet carrot cake. I even saw a mystery flavor package the other day. What about having an Oreo bracket or maybe this is a joke? We discuss this for two years yeah. That's what I said I had this. I do think that you've spoken about thirty and on dozens of tired like Aaron even knew that we talked about this. This is this is this is forever. I told her I would read the suggestion Tara. Should we have a tournament of thirty different flavors of oreos absolutely. I don't know you're laughing about this. The best heard on that. Will you come for that absolutely absolutely you don't even I don't even like Oreos and I'd come yeah well. Do you know Tarran. We've done a serial tournament where we bought Thirty Bucks Cereals and five times each year one for for ten seconds cinnamon toast crunch okay yeah that's correct then well. I think it was incorrect but I was. I was outvoted. What was it was actually at the studio tournament well my which barely made the tour I oversee on instagram recently was throwing shade at Cinnamon Toast? It's crunch today that he had a tweet recently that was about to the mentos crunch I think he was throwing shade at it to have a chat chat. Yeah I gotTa let me see if I can if I can find it so this he has a picture and then a caption that does not really a doesn't really fit with the picture but it's sort of like a random using it's almost like a tweet accompanied by a photo but he said recently something about cinnamon toast crunch. I think he said that it that it stinks. I mean that's I mean that's a terrible take. I don't WanNA favorite said it was awesome but I think he said here says there's no such thing as a wrong opinion except not liking cinnamon toast crunch. Oh so now he is Dell negative threw me off okay. That's terrible yeah. That's why that's why he's on instagram and twitter with that because that's a confused yeah. There's no such thing likes in one re tweets parable take except that not accept not liking cinnamon toast crunch exactly but I didn't get cereal pick my wife and my favorite cereal as crispy but that barely made the torn because nobody else likes risks and then for the torment. I thought honeycomb should win but it got knocked out I think by frosted flakes in the first round. I haven't had honey awhile. It gets really go buy a box. It's one most popular serials rob. It was actually better than what is it a top opt-in cereal honeycomb like a top ten twelve zero. We looked into these. I think like fifteen years ago at least was the elite eight maybe yeah Akiva Kiva claims to be a serial influence there but he also thought that Chocula was on cocoa puffs Tara. I don't eat chocolate so you need a you know a Lotta. I have a lot of tange takes where it's like. You wouldn't think no I don't I don't I don't eat chocolate at all. So what how would I know about cocoa puffs blaming me for not kosher cereal that I wouldn't know they know we did a would you know we rented out an ice cream store and didn't ice cream tournament also yeah Akiva. This is a website now called Mr Breakfast Dot Com and there we're thirty four serials introduced in Twenty Nineteen introduced a new serial tournament. I don't know maybe we should rank breath. Thirty four serials introduced in twenty nineteen include Baby Shark Cereal Jeez Blueberry Blueberry cheerios actually awful yeah. How is that not great? I want cereal Chiro Cereal doughnut. You want some cereal. That's a mouthful right name of fiber one strawberry Vanilla cereal. There's something there new serials would you what you need to do is find the list for for all the new serials and then you'd be able to predict what's next big cereal. Yes okay yeah come up with some flavors and like or characters. We've been listening to work for like post or like some struggling cereal company. We could make them a new serial. Alright baby shark cereal. I think is got to be a huge huge winner at the supermarket it had it's I mean I would think like old town road cereal probably at least GonNa Happen and also what we need to do is find the least ten popular serials and see if we could rebrand yeah. That's not a bad ten grown cereals okay all right right Jordan all right so so arial says the Oreo tournament which hopefully will happen at some point in summer of two thousand twenty but I will say okay Jordan any ideas of your roane. Well all the ideas that I've ever brought up you. You have rejected one of them. Was I believe you were it was going to be the Robin Akiva Iron Chef where so you cooked meal and they rose or not turn on an oven. It wouldn't work yeah. I love this. This wasn't the Robin Akiva Arabica history. This was not even my idea. Someone else fits this. I don't even know who it was but no I don't. I don't have an all male that okay all right the snail mail Taryn we get one idea from Tarran before we in the modern you've consumed or you've absorbed Zorba all these ideas. Is there any kick out an idea for the wheel well. I mean number one and I don't know why I mean. It's obvious that you haven't done this and it's obviously should is that you should do a yogurt ranking your ranking Ya. Dan Wins Right. How Do you feel about yogurt? I I think the the the Greek yogurt is insanely overrated. I don't know how it's go. Tell Terry likes yeah. We'll see we're already. We're already fighting about us. It's already golden. I Know You like Plain Yogurt but I'm just saying I think in general the my kids have a lot of we have like a whole yogurt draw. I don't know if you have this job like we have half my fridges yogurt Salt Lake sometimes try like Oh. There's a trumpet in this and the next day it's like that's my lunch why you take it but I I so I get to try a lot of different yogurts. I'm Pro Yogurt Augert yogurt ranking we usually do we we do food tournaments and rings in Person Taryn. Oh yes well. Obviously you need to try I of the yogurts we'd have to trial the yogurts. But how many yogurts do you think you could. You could realistically try 'cause we also did an intimate Jordan was there also in my friend's basement and we all lost a will to live after trying like eight estimates and there was twenty four more how many yogurts could reasonably try before we just choose death. I mean it depends ends I mean if if it were up to me you would just you would just be ranking all of the plane Greek yet alike plain yogurt on the market but maybe we could do a couple of a couple of other flavors as well. Could you do a taste test. Ah Identify with via for you on big brother's over town watch this would you do you want any of our rejected ideas ideas for potential twitch streams shore okay right. What's what's one of the best rejected ideas? We've got a whole spreadsheet rob as well sitting setting marriage wheel list and we got some of the bad ideas from this week tune see if you could do anything with them we have we have we have a mask singer episode coming up at some point but that's rejected idea well up. Let me let me finish we but we showed up tim wrote in today and wants us to mask swinger episode where anonymous listeners come on and talk about their swinging lifestyle has got banned from ideas. He said that Robyn Akiva interviewing honest. If I told you how he spelled anonymous you wouldn't believe me. They're anonymous way of couple about the lifestyle well in any funny stories or encounters then Robin Akiva Hook them up with other interested listeners like invading show no real names us. I think he's just looking to swing. I'm not sure now now and that doesn't sound like the show up ten that I now listen. We're not judging. I will say a tariff. We are a bunch of our listeners on blind dates I yes I heard so so we did get a few requests like hey. I'm into like this policy lifestyle or swing like I'm for anything I was like. I'm not bringing up any marriages. I need like I think it was. You know it's hard to get like I live in a very specific city and do you know anybody who has this very specific we didn't we didn't really service any of those people there any success stories from that two marriages but not because of that not because no not that we don't have we we didn't get a second date but at the live show Minnesota we set up. We made a best friend setup rob myself Sunday Burke with set up friends and I we got ten N. Facebook Post this week that Robin tag they were hanging out a week. They like to go to Thai restaurants with each other. so we've made best friends and we've sort of adopted a couple that was already together before the podcast started and taking credit for them okay well. I think I see the problem here is that you were what you were swinging for the fences with trying to create love. I think the reason why this winger thing can work is that the goalpost is ally a lot easier to attain good point yeah yeah so should people if they want to talk about their anonymous swinging stories they. How could they contact us us? Well contact Taryn. He's getting reject that idea idea this is this is a retirement after dark mainstream rejecting this idea I mean Harry. The people like you know we shut up. The first of all. Tim Gets One more idea on the wheel. People riot I mean Taryn has a three part episode of the Taryn show talking to Brent about all sorts of crazy stories has like an actual. You know a lot of life stories that he's lived. What do you think would get Attaran if you come on the show who would get most was mad that you didn't pick them if you came on as a to take on Robin Akiva in game night formerly known as Padras Pot in a in a duo situation if I yeah I honestly I don't think it would be would be no one would be mad? I think Brent maybe would be the most manpower think I don't think I think we love Games. Though Games Brent and rent is is a very understanding guy very reason all right there are currently three hundred eighty one rejected ideas read number or fifty six ran away number fifty six from the rejected ideas. A lot of these are season three episode sevens from the early days this this is this is season three seven of the twilight zone tower of like that one. Oh Yeah I've already doesn't want to do because it's too scary what Alex Alexa now I think I think it is Taryn. It's always in three episodes evidence the name of the I think it's not a particularly really great one. season three episodes Taryn happens to be a big twilight zone guy I know how is the new one isn't Antonio also be. He's the Pizarro zone our got new one started out kind promise you but was not super great I was I wanted to talk to Matt Hoffman about it on switched. Its the grave. It's called a gunman visits. The grave of a man who vowed revenge is not yeah so here's another here's another h each word but if I would I'd say on January we'll not yet each word Robin Keeping Sex CAST AKA dark listeners submit their NS FW relationship issues or questions this comes on the wheel and expanded but exploding spot January twenty twenty and can only be picked for episode sixty nine nine coming up yeah up in what I think early January twenty twenty. What do you think about that? I kind of like the other idea more. I feel like we don't necessarily need to know a lot about what they're into but they were looking for other. People also be putting contact setups people with people for hookups. I feel like that was specifically. Not You'd rather hear people's sexiest. I don't want any of this. I was just reading goofy. Things Taryn Dr Mike for the gas. Oh no question definitely get okay. No I don't know no. Let's talk about what's on what's on the wheel. Yes okay right season three episode seven. How many slots is that up to now? I'M GONNA say three three three spots for season three episode number seven. We had a coin flip the coin flip be eligible to be picked but it's the possession Arrow right the now you if it's a coin flip it just automatically Rob's ensure that I felt like why are we going to ruin the. I think that if you find the game like you know why kill the Coin Flip No. We're the world's come to India. Where do you have a video game on? That's going to be with their ECKSTEIN. We're GONNA play where the world is. Carmen Sandiego Taryn you replay wearing the world is Carmen Sandiego Dago. I have not played you know I was always very confused as a child as to what was in where she was and why people cared decent Dece little young for that also are you a guy I mean I feel like I did play it but it wasn't like I played a lot more Oregon trail than Carmen in San Diego okay all right. I definitely played it in school. That's with Eric Stein. The crappy movie diaper is out there. We have the sequel mechanism. Be One spot crappy mood. I read by the way why because it was the early last week. He goes zero one two okay you say so all right then we have rules us our sequel mechanism you know the reason why we have veto is because then if something comes up that we don't WanNa do then you have to use the veto. I feel like that. We Really May oh. I don't I wanna do that this week. I don't WanNa do this this week and we're not doing it. I just think the rules are it doesn't come twice in a row. I think that's a fair rule the region we have like a million vetoes tos veto year. That's why we never have to Jordan. Is Your veto question that you were nervous. We're going to veto during this episode. My the question is that if if it is a robbery Cuba choice and Akiva fixing episode that rob doesn't want to do then via the absolutely okay yeah all right then we have the Mount Rushmore. We're going to name what should be on the Mount Rushmore of things than we have. Millennial judge not not Sally Splash. You're not the Rose Robin Akiva. Is that still is that out there is they were supposed to take that off last week in the waiting room okay so I've taken it off the wheel please okay. So when will it be ready. I only know it's ready. I don't know I need I need time to that needs to be put together. That can't be done in six days is Tara. Do you want to be on the dais for the roast of Robin Akiva where I get to roast you yeah absolutely people might people might zing you also which are issued podcast. There would be the best roaster Taryn. Who Do you think the best roaster man I mean obviously I think leader would be great at it on one since she wants to know? She said she she's up for. I mean alley lascher written her roasts already yeah the Terron said one thing to her on the podcast last week. She ran right for his jugular. Our really deadly deadly okay then we have a better attends hands Taryn. That's where a Cuban. I have to go out and see the worst movie based on the rotten tomatoes score at the box office each week there an update on what the new better attend movie is. I think it's still the John Travolta directed for the next few weeks but that infers that we can watch that from home because it's on Vod we have a hot takeoff. with Liana Boris we have people's choice where we'll spend the wheel three more times and then let twitter vote this weekend. Robin Akiva has been satisfied Jordan. Would you like to see this this weekend. Rob mckeever go to these sequel mechanism not for a very long time. I do not have enough time to write fifty three more or do you want to give Taryn. One of the unused mused questions for a podcast that he's never listened to ready I-i Seinfeld fan okay so let let me go to okay. This is from the the Chinese restaurant Taryn. What movie is Rob surprised to hear that Kiva has seen is a planet nine from Outer Space Space? Be The Godfather See shawshank redemption or d nine hundred eighty nine. Batman surprised that he has seen it that he has seen yes go with atman okay. I'll play a clip number thirty two okay clip number thirty see appropriately clip number thirty two Berkey. Jerry has lied to his uncle. He said that he's sick so he can get out to go see plan nine from outer space. Which is the worst movie the ever made supposedly key by now? You must have seen plan nine from outer space. I actually have seen it. Oh you have no okay yes the question. I haven't seen Jordan yeah who cut these questions. This was a I always like must be plan nine from outer space ace because I would be really surprised if we saw that movie supposedly and why would I've seen the godfather but like who would be surprised that it's the middle to definitely not it doesn't make sense. Joyously haven't seen hours today that was not to be questioned. Should I didn't come out with that. One yeah blame somebody say who it was. I won't say you know what I think. Parents should do so basically the the issue is that you don't know he couldn't preplanned this this game because it's contingent on which we could falls out because if this show happened that November fifth he'd have to questions that of podcast that Robin record the the last six years November fifth what if we made Jordan to get this back in the sequel mechanism he asked the he has to cut in fifty two weeks of shows and then whenever it comes up on the wheel L. Yes ready because he hasn't. I was used hand. It couldn't go on the sequel mechanism because we just did all the questions but it would just be whatever we comes up. He has to go back museums up. Do do this million. Everybody wants that. I I don't know that could be another pole for the polar no unless like because my job. I don't know if that's if that's even able to happen what the hard about helping you podcast if I knew in three days and say Jordan the demand is too great. We need to do it next week guarantee. You'll have it done for us a guarantee if I I like to please the listeners if the listeners wanted I would do it but I mean it's too soon. It's too soon we just did it. He uh he thought he could get out but they pulled them. Yeah okay then that's from the movie that Akiva hasn't seen the godfather that's from plan nine from okay question. That's insane that they couldn't listen to the last second the next two seconds all right then we have a third wheel people are going to the third wheel four Rob Nikita podcast Cameo cast-iron. That's when keep it. I will have a budget of fifty dollars to spend buying each other cameos and then we'll play them on the podcast and also also maybe listeners will buy US cameos that will play all in one episode we have the newly added game night now eligible for next week and TLC shows those are trash okay so let's go ahead and launch the wheel George. What do you hope comes up? I mean we've been hearing about the millennial judge for a long time. We've been manifesting alley last year in this podcast so much I think that's GonNa. I think that's going to be that okay. The wheel is the wheel does what we talk about about a lot so the wheel the wheel is listening or maybe it's just the Internet but that's what happens. Okay I have the wheel open. Taryn can can vouch for no funny business in this going on the first legitimate wheelspin since Minnesota. Yes Okay Tara. I'll give you the honor if you want to announce what what comes up on the wheel and release mmkay all right. It'll it'll say on a like when it finishes spinning. It'll pop up on the bottom of the screen. What it says okay you one better attend? Okay okay so that is the worst movie. That's out at the box office but what I wanted that's all I wanNA watch that with her. It is the fanatic directed by Fred. Durst you Olympics scaife Taryn. You're a little young probably won't be Olympics. Get Baby I baby I was I was never like a big fan but I was secretly in shamefully a little bit enjoying them okay. I think we all were in John Travolta Travolta Guy. He's a star of this film. I mean masters intimate John Travolta obviously and everyone's sisters crush when they were my age Devon Sal I think is in this movie to Devon Sowell's survivor no devin but you don't remember. It wasn't me like just a bad joke. I know I got it but I like. I'm shocked that people don't know Devon Saola Ansel Al Gore Tarintino Ansel elgort is that was another sense question and so elegant is man. I know the name is it's not like I'm your host. Leader is gonNA cancel so you. If you don't know how gorgeous yeah the Devon style wine ansel elgort. I have a real you know. I don't know okay Attaran watching the live feeds all summer. He doesn't have time for an awkward and catch up on the movies soon okay. He's just an actor all right. Oh He's the guy from baby driver. Okay yeah baby driver right. Believe Yeah Okay all right. So what's the movie the fanatic the fanatic so it's essentially the crappy movie diaper just was on its own happy about this. This is it came up up like two or three weeks ago and then we ended up re spinning so well it wasn't it wasn't around yet right we couldn't we didn't have time to go to the movies veto no rob. We haven't used the veto very very doable. We'd have to figure out like a like a gas or or anything like that. No okay so the nation Yeah Devon South was founded this nation. I believe he was Casper. The friendly ghost he was the kid he you know Devon salary you just minos name care far more about fun of this nation than what Casper's all of what you're much younger than me. Casper was like a big deal. If you're like thirty three Casper there was a big deal when I was a child I D Casper van Your Casper Spooky Afoot the movie Jordan Yeah. I like the movie when I was a kid. We put that in the crappy movie diaper happy movies. I know it's a great movie. It's too good yeah you can put that in there for the friendly Goethe I mean it's a sad story Casper yeah but Casper in my girl does he is. He like Christina reach. He's buddy and my girl making things up now. I don't know timers lender. Is it for you now four fifty eight. I'm having fun for two more hours here I have to I have to watch my size. Babysit before people are GonNa be mad at me. You don't pay at least even though he didn't say that five times forty five yeah no it's fine yeah yes fine the night where the vibes casper her was. You're jammed Jordan. Yes in one thousand nine hundred five probably when you orborne now seven I was born nineteen ninety. Yeah Okay Okay Ben Stein. That was another game for the guessing celebrities ages. What do you think about that game? I like it Gessler Jason Bateman for the for the game night yeah okay good as standalone standalone podcast but for all all again ten minute games that's that's good. I don't know this Jason Bateman Taryn he's forty seven. I don't know the answer. I was just asking yeah okay. I think that's a pretty sound guess yeah I guess fifty one. He's fifty okay see that was closer there. You wear one over though I don't know. Are we doing over role. So are we doing family feud. That's up for that. The family feuds side spices right. It's late. It's Tokyo in that same mistake on a podcast before okay all right Jordan Kayla where people listen to you every single week listen on this survivor on on rob has podcast. I think most of you know where to find that and that's about fifty fifty okay this week in survivor history. It's GonNa be looked for it. It's going to be right after the wiggle room this season. It's the what the show called survivor this. We can survivor history this season. I think it's calling me called the wiggle room. I did work on that. We have to work where we're still working on. What is going to be is it still the shack done working on it? Okay so beyond beyond the lookout for that okay and then of course Jordan is on twitter as well. He is at Jordan fake survivor seasons coming up. No not not scheduled but it could happen. I always find out like in the next week noted them especially if we've already given them playing them. It's fun. It's one thing to play them. it's another thing to look camera guy. We're playing playing them as a lot more fun. I've I've played more than I've done production season on this podcast cast have we do heels no but like with sixteen people and then we just have one night survivor game. It'd be a good idea for repacked. Maybe at the you know the next Robin Kiva Live. Maybe idea alive survivor going. It's gotta be like it's like an hour our I mean we we did. We need it around the table. big brother game at one of the last know-it-alls you just have a bunch of people sitting around able unhanged the game of survivor in front of each other. okay have like votes every couple of minutes okay. That sounds like fun. I it's actually would not be a bad all right so Jordan's onboard on-board all right Taryn. Where can people find you whether you're going to be doing a vanilla yogurt taste test? Yes you can find the yogurts. It's an rob homecare crazy. It's not vanilla. I like Vanilla. yogurts is a very area. I thought you were saying that instead of a lot of terrible people assume that vanilla nine and no Sir Labor No it's plain yogurt. You can find all of the plane scream flavor. If Lane is your favorite you don't eat icecream lactose intolerant or you just have crazy food. Take I'd just have crazy takes this guy back on the podcast ever have been okay. I gotta go on the Taryn show. I I need to hear. I need to hear more really down that he won't he's the he's the interviewer I know you can't you can't get in. How can you have you host? This is my my pitch. You host Taryn on the Taryn. Show and you ask you get to the bottom of Taron. Saul many have tried yes if if if he wants to. I'm sure that he can reveal more and more about about and we're GONNA pressure tearing I feel like I don't know I tear in it. I don't know if you know I'm a big Taryn. Show fan but I also feel like I know people aren't very little value from the terrain show what coast of the country you live on or anything. We'll see the avid listener will pick up on many many details throughout the entire tear. You can glean things here and there but I feel like it's our but anyway you should bring back the Taryn show. I liked the Tandja ranch it has it has not run. I mean a weekly not like hey. I'm doing it monthly right now. Yeah that's fine. That's find one. you know what you have an invitation to be interviewed on the bench. I'm up for it especially if it was like literally during the Day Day when I'm supposed to record this weird survivor as well. You know what lost the game you were forced together. We'll work on our schedules and we'll figure yeah. I'm that it needs to be. I wish okay alright and that Akiva you and chances are you. Are you guys up to two episodes a week or only one the episode on thirty two fans. Why would we do oh you mean because we talked about doing a Patriot yeah? I don't know a thing if it did poorly. I don't think my heart could handle doing a patriot and then like only seven mm people signing up for something yeah. It's it's the Jewish holidays we could barely do. Maybe in November. We'll do one but I've been on a roll with picking Games so yeah thirty two fans need to yeah and you're yeah you've been yeah but we pick against the spread you on here. I have played the rules for what's the spread what's being against the spread. I know you're not a big football. Guy Had to define that term yeah like. Do you think people know that who aren't football people. I mean probably not too bad probably not the details of it. I assume it means something along the lines of like going against the grain now exactly yeah yeah by the way Amanda Rabinowitz Rabinowitz had had an idea. I guess we could read it next week. What does it really teased it now? Okay fine all right. It's a similar idea to what Taryn saying we'll get the next week a similar radio attaran against the grain no but no whatever you say you're three hours into a podcast saying you just want me. We know you just said too. I thought to people you're saying no. She wants us to explain a sport to people and then like have a listener doesn't follow sports come on and we're going to pick their favorite team for them. Then you do that on their defense well we didn't do it. We have a listener from New Zealand who said like mention attention all thirty two teams like when they're previews an I'll pick and then he picked the jets maybe thirty two fans idea the jets the jets I guess he's from New Zealand and he you know he knew he wanted to be like an outsider. I Dunno you think it was the Winnipeg jets. I don't know is this. This gives me an idea. Okay well. What if what if you have a podcast where you bring on people who are very not knowledgeable college able about us? Yes you quiz them on it and see how ridiculous it become knowledgeable like. I think it's fun like a man to sink. She wants to become basketball men and she wants us to pick a favorite team for is there any sport you follow Taryn. You're not a sports guy right. Big Brother you carry. I was big brother's very physical over the years yeah yes I listen and what about the challenge I feel like Jackson is going to be like a ten season challenge. We started challenge yeah yeah. I think the point here is to see like is to try to get them to come up with like guesses and like how funny it it is but if they literally no nothing about baseball or something is that we'd be funnier is the you and I get quizzed. It's about something that we know nothing about so. It's like laugh at us. We're stupid idiots out something right everybody else knows about. I feel like it's backwards like I don't think it's fun. PODCASTS OF US like you know making fun of somebody because of what they don't know right now it was like so yeah tarrant you wanNA favorite. NBA team do a do. I do. I want you one. Do you want us to give you one. We'll give you one right now. This sure let's do it. You're a Sacramento Kings guy now. You need like biking journey Z. I know we're Pelicans guys. He's a kings guy. I'm Marteen your Sacramento Kings Superfan now and you know what you picked correct because I'm a big fantasy guy so to say I'm a King's man and I make on what I'm into Darren Fox. I'm it listen. There's only the only place goes up so nobody will use you being a front runner. Okay all right. Let's wrap this up Jordan Caitlyn. Thank you for all your hard work. Key allies did a great job. I really appreciate Jordan. Thank you so much for coming on. I'll see you. I'll see you keep it on this weekend survivor and keep doing the perfect stranger song right yeah. Oh okay. I just got six tweets during the show saying you better someone literally just tweeted. I think it was abby the Almond Dinger someone just tweet and said I will hunt you down. If you don't do the guys out tra- all right you sit stay with the perfect. Strangers is a great Larry Malki. Take it away This episode episode of Rob has a podcast is sponsored by friends over at Truecar. 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Rob & Akiva Need a Podcast #66: Are You Smarter than a 6th Grader?

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Rob & Akiva Need a Podcast #66: Are You Smarter than a 6th Grader?

"WHOA WE WE KHIVA Needle Orion Robin Akiva need a podcast episode number sixty sixty six and here? We are appropriately episode sixty six and we will talk about if Robin Akiva are smarter than a a sixth grader. Here in this episode. But first let me welcome in the man who is the CO founder of Robert Akiva Anita podcast the CO founder of the thirty two fans podcasts. And a man who has received so much sympathy online this this week Mr Akiba Winokur winokur. How are you? I'm great. I'm still a little shook up about this whole royal family split. I guess Adam Fuss yes AKIVA. I have a lot that I wanNA talk about with the reaction to the sleepover podcast It was a lot of people are not usually this nice to me and it mcgann comfortable. Akiva I was always okay. I mean if it wasn't okay we wouldn't have aired it right. I was one hundred percent. Fine with it airing and you know I just wanted people to celebrate. How great of a job Lindsey did yes well? Lindsey did an incredible job but I I was inundated with feedback of how could how could a bunch of people that are a keys. Friends be so mean to to a Kiva. I don't think that was really the vibe in the room. Vibert I think people are like I was mostly mean to myself I think I think that that was chester. Was Mean to me. I think there was a lot of self inflicted wounds and I I can't I was starting to write out a number of tweets that people and I just stopped. Waylay what am I doing. I'M NOT GONNA argue with people on twitter but I was felt very much that like how could you. How could you do this to Akiva? You're supposed to be his friend. And you were a part of a group of people people bullying and making fun of Kiva. Yeah you should just drop the The audio from the thing. Yes I think we need the unredacted version. Uh of the PODCAST. Go Out this rob if if we get you know that. was you know as positive feedback for an episode. That we've we've szekely. Ah Yes if if someone gets any media coverage any sort of mainstream media coverage for that episode then they could be the Martin Shkreli with the Wu. Tang album of the of the sleepover podcast. podcast audio what do you mean what do you mean Marsk rally. I don't know that story. I know that he owns the one copy of the Tang Liulichang aluminium you'd like threatens blow the widow and stuff like that yes but what are you saying. I'm saying if they got any sort of coverage like the AV club or vulture somebody. Right something about the sleepover podcast. And how great it was the person who got the PR they can have the audio and do with it as they please. They can use it online they could hoard. What do you think about that? That's fine that's all I'm saying is I think you got a good at it. On the sleepover. PODCAST oral history. Right you you're saying I should fear the the the main audio coming out because I think the real story is a Kiva dazzling a room full of people like hey let me tell you something else. I don't know how to deal. I listen. History is written by the editors and it was not like what you can't do this. You idiot yeah no people or no one was. That was not what really happened now. Okay all right. Let's Segue into episode number sixty six because this is an episode the has been on the wheel for awhile. There's a lot of hype. Are Robin Akiva smarter than a sixth grader. And let's let's bring in in the sixth grader that we're going to talk today. I'm very excited for Redknapp nation to get the chance to meet this young woman who who is no stranger to fans of the thirty two fans podcast where she appeared to be a Seinfeld Trivia Contested champion. I think there's a little bit of a debate. They asterisk asterisk and then also that she is was mentioned a lot. In the the SL infield post show recap. Please welcome in the great. Mattie is here Matt how're you. Yes mattie were so excited to have you here making your Robin Akiva Nita. podcast debut to take on myself and Winokur in a battle of Trivia. Are you ready okay. Mattie will let's also bring in the woman who is going to be the the host of Nikki smarter than a sixth grader. Please welcome back the great as frail. Mary Merrick Caskey's here. Mary how are you. I'm doing great today. It's it's just a nice Thursday over here for me so any chance that I can get to talk to you guys and talk to anyone on a podcast. I without Kristen McKenna's is always a nice surprise. Yes well second podcast this week without came back. Yeah well she was in the in the chat hat monitoring always watching. Yes and so I. I won't reveal her level of patronage. Maybe she's listening in on this phone call right now. That would ought to be to be fair like I. I don't think there's if people don't McGinnis Frequent guests this podcast and is a co host of another podcast with frail married Mary. They've both been on this show together. But she's the one who's asked its house cast G. Kirsten is the one who suggested Mary so. I don't think there's any any beef there. No it's okay then okay all right so matty that. I'm very excited for our listeners. To get to know you a little bit of course that I'm curious to know how. How did you end up coming into contact with the world of Robin Kiva? While my mom's been yes tinted podcast for on time and I extend failed so I saw signed for podcasts. In and I saw the new podcast when this came out. Okay so you are a Seinfeld superfan. You know everything about Seinfeld correct war okay Akiva. Can you come up with any sort sort of like a quick pop quiz for Matty just to demonstrate her level of Seinfeld knowledge. Do you really put me on the spot there. Okay how about Eh. Mattie could you name a how many of the fake movies that appeared on the TV show Seinfeld. Do you think you could name off. The top of your head okay. See Stack Young Jess deathblow absolutely Okay to is is pretty good Mattie who invaded Spain in the eighth century. Yeah yeah well here. The Moore's I card says mooks Cart says Mos I for the record to fake Seinfeld. Movies is more than in any other sixth grader in the entire world would be able to name. So that's quite the accomplishment and so matty knows everything about Seinfeld and and then that do you listen. Do you listen to the podcast with your mom. I started as into it with my mom and then I saw you into it by myself. Okay and you even now continue to listen to Robin Akiva need a podcast okay. What do you like better? Do you like Robin Akina. PODCAST or the Seinfeld podcast better. Okay all right. Well you think about that in a Mattie was out in Minnesota with us for the big a couple of day trip this summer for a mini Ren apple as many. Were you at the live. Show that AKIVA did okay and the ice cream tormenting Zad. Yes I re. I remember the famously. Her grandfather it got a banana split after the ice-cream tournament. Yes did you listen to the oral. History of the sleepover podcast last week. Did you feel bad for a Kiva. Okay do you WanNa do you WanNa yell at me or any of the other people that were in the room for that day. No okay you understand you sleepovers you know how it goes actually. She should've told us. Yeah that'd been weird if we invited Mattie to the to the sleepover but we're mattie where should we since since you came with us last summer to Minnesota what's your vote for where Robin Akiba should go this summer. What city so you didn't have to travel That would be an easy one Yeah I vote for that too. I second okay okay. Not so sure and then matty. What's your favorite episode of Robin Akiva? Nita podcast keyboard was in ward of Harry Potter. Okay good okay all right. What was the worst episode of Rob? Makita podcast Paulina. Yes we'll minute. So movies four. Yeah I to shut up Tim podcast. You just mentioned okay all right Mattie do you watch riverdale well okay all right. If you don't start if you start then you should check cout. Mary's PODCASTS. Okay and now and you don't watch survivors. Do you do okay. Did you start because of the listening to this podcast. I saw watching survive with my mom. There I saw your name to the Juan dos and the and the The note okay all right. Are you nervous about this today. Okay don't be nervous. Don't be nervous. We're going to have fun no matter what that you are in school. Will you are practicing learning all this stuff that Akiva in me that we haven't been in school in a long time so we probably forgot on most of the stuff. So don't be nervous. Do you think any of your friends will listen to this podcast. Probably not. Don't tell okay anything you want to set up No I don't know the rules. I'd let's have free America men and explain to US exactly what we're GONNA do today. Awesome yes so we are going to be doing a sort of jeopardy style tournament here between the three of you it. It is true that Robin Akiva will be on the same team however they are not going to get to work together to answer the questions. So you'll still be answering questions individually and Dan taking turns with that and there are five different categories we have here geographies social studies math science English or literature. And the grab bag or as. I'm calling it the lunch box of sort of random others will related Clinton's Austin you guys in this chat. Those are the categories And Math Rob Science. I mean it's story checks out I I feel like I don't know if you know this but math is one of the primary subject learnt. I'm a former teacher Mary. Of course I knew that I was an English teacher. The bureau surprise so there are have here six questions for each of the categories and you will take turns going back and forth answering these questions but you will get to choose the category for your opponent. Matty gets to pick Robin Keita's categories and end at vice versa. The questions one through six are worth different number points based on the difficulty one will be easiest six being the most difficult so okay. We're we'RE GONNA go with one hundred thirty six hundred a couple of quick questions okay. Mary did you make real questions or did you make up ridiculous questions like when you. You hosted this week in survivor history. Earlier this fall. That doesn't sound anything like something I would do. Okay no these are these are real questions. Juliet. Who suggested this podcast sent me? Most of the questions and I added a couple just for a little bit of variety there or to even out the categories. But they are all questions either from Julia or from I asked my sister my mom who are both elementary or middle. School Teacher So they gave me some more questions. They said are typical for the standards of learning. So they should hopefully be They should hopefully be on par with something that ideally Mattie with no okay and then did you secretly give the answers to Mattie because then that would be fun for the podcast listeners if matty gets every question right and you know I get all the questions wrong. Yeah yeah of course okay because aw I only ask that because that actually happened to me that I was on the survivor after show several years ago and then and they brought out a young man to low. Let's see if this young man is smarter than ROB at Questions about survivor and poverty was reading the questions. Everyone's having a like a big laugh that the kid was getting the answers right before poverty even finished the question and that was the the gag then so I am a little bit. Louis is going to happen again today. That hopefully will not happen. Hopefully hopefully we'll still win though. That's I mean that's where my money's what you rooting for Mattie Yeah. He didn't say that I had to be a impartial. Came with the territory. I Dunno the person was was wait. Hold on we need stakes. I think rob yes. Okay the IRA five something that I wanted to. I thought about this. Okay Akiva AKIVA. If we lose we should have to watch cats anyway and it's not even the subject of the podcast we just have to then and then talk about it on the mailbag next week okay. So next week's mailbag is cats. If we lose yeah that's fine but if matty loses than wishing the punishment also okay the hold on. Do you accept that punishment that would you want a key to watch the movie cats. Okay talk about on the pockets. You listen to that or did you see that movie now okay. Do you want to see the movie now. All all of the good press they do other better punishment for Akiva and myself now. Okay all right I would say Mattia watch scam. I don't think that's age appropriate. I'm trying to think what's like age appropriate matty can do Matty do you have any ideas of what you could do. If you lose now How about do you listen to the thirty two fans podcast? Now that that should be the punishment for matty that she has to listen to five thirty fans. Let's give her one about Chester talking about music that the Patriot episode ornament an Alpha. You have to listen to the flag episode of Chester and the world's biggest flag expert ranking every play and borrow more. Yeah I need. I need at least like a twitter. DM Book Report. Okay okay all right. Mattie what was your mom's uh-huh reaction to you being on the podcast with us. She excited or she nervous nervous. She's nervous is she nervous. That you're gonNA loser she nervous that Akiva or mere is GonNa say something inappropriate. I think she'd no longer that us. Okay no that she's confident. Okay I mean. She should be rooting for us. I think technically yeah look. She's not a fan of matty's podcast Of Man Matty. If you had a podcast what would it be about fine tale. That's a good idea. If you we'll have it this rob matty has a podcast. That doesn't have to be the name and none of your friends have watched Seinfeld before right. You've told us that war. So what if every week of a new kid from school watching episode of Seinfeld with you you podcast. It's called like eleven year olds watching Seinfeld. It'll be the number one podcast so I think there's no Seinfeld podcasts. Out The right now. We retired so the other one. The markets open. It's GONNA come back on Netflix It's not a bad idea. I mean and there's no podcasts. Where kids are watching watching Seinfeld? Absolutely I think this is a winner. You should you should do this. Mattie okay okay kids watching Seinfeld all right. Maybe we'll help you get that off. It coulda youtube also so you could. It could be a youtube series. Because that's really what the kids are. Kick Talk Mattie Man. You want to talk okay Mary. You won't talk. I know I am not. I wasn't even on vine. I've really missed the key. I think we still need to get on Tick Tock I've been scrolling scrolling through some tic TACs Yeah we were someone who's supposed to come on. Explain it to us and we were GONNA do some tick tock of what happened to it. Okay all right. I hope that happens all right so mary. How do we get this show on the road? Okay so Apparently the chat I sent. You didn't work but I iffy view have trouble remembering the categories. Just asked me but it's your four standard subjects of social studies math science and English and then grab bag there will also be a bonus spelling round. That happens a in the middle of the tournament here so we will get to of that. And that's that's going to be. That would be the part that I would lose on. I'm a horrible Speller. I think these other questions I would hopefully have been able to get but okay Robinson Robinson thought yes. This is zero upside game for us even if we win in a row they were beating a sixth grader. And if we lose or we win but like we we misspell easy words. Like what's the upside here we're going to. This is going to be bad. Well the upside is that. Hopefully we get good podcast. Oh no for sure. But in terms of You know the actual game component. I like we can only we can only embarrass ourselves. I feel like probably probably but at least if it's enjoyable for the listeners then and that's the upside that's pretty much the same thing I used to tell my parents when they would beat me video games when I was like five or six. What is the upside here you got you beat me the job? Just let me win builds confidence. Okay Your Dad know frail. Mary that that his job has been made world famous by Robin. The podcast Yeah he knows. And he's He's in full support of that. He says once you get him his movie deal he is no he knows someone have made it. Okay okay keep promoting Madij jog alert is now okay that that's that's frail frail. Mary's Dad that he is a record holding jog. Alling Juggler or jogging juggler. Yes yeah it's it's it's incredible All right so to kick this off. We're going to figure out. which team goes I and I think the most fair way to to do this is Robin Kiva? You can go first if you can guess the name of Maddy's cat. Oh what what they human now. I don't know the answer to this question. So did you have a cab hat. Yes okay. What's the cat's name? Quick says Princess. That was seinfeld named Matty. Okay Ma'am House. I okay all right so matty goes first and To start this offense and she got the ability to go to. She can actually pick her first category just to get an idea. We're here so matty. Which category would you take The grab-bag grab bag rate. And then so. These are organized raised one through six in terms of difficulty. What do you want to start out with two perfect awesome okay? This is a sort of pop culture current events question so matty in the show Fuller House what is Dj's profession a veterinarian that is correct so well rob did you know no well. That's unfortunate. Apparently you did not also also ask Maddie's mom what things she's interested in so okay Akiva. I'm starting to feel like in here. Yeah Yeah I met. Greg might be the category. You guys want to stay away from but don't get to pick your category so matty it you you get to pick which category they have and rob has already expressed in previous podcasts that he hates geography but geography awesome. Okay and and I guess let's say. Do we want to have who we want to have picked the difficulty level. Do you guys don't want to keep that for yourself I. I don't think you should just go in order honestly with the difficulty so it doesn't get confusing. Oh well that's up to rob. Yeah I think that's going to be a little hard to follow on in front of me. I don't even have anything in front of you. We don't need to go like jeopardy James Style of bouncing all over the board probably watching that by the way now I have I'm sure I would like it but you know I got all share enough all right well then for the first question here for Rob The ancient Egyptian writing system was called. What hieroglyphics all right? That's correct okay. Go one point for Rob Aright Well I guess you guys your scores can go together. Okay so Robin Akiva you can pick the category for matty now. Okay you want to go with Let's go with the Science Science Elliott's sure okay. Mattie what is nicknamed the powerhouse of the cell. I don't know we'll see now. You need to get on top of your means. Then this is once you learn this. You'll remember this forever. Robin Kiva do you guys know the answer to Kondracke Haddock Andrea. Yeah Yeah not is what. It's a complicated question. But once you learn that you will always remember the mighty Andrea is power hassle to sell. Okay we'll steal you'll appoint right now no stealing just curious to know if you were on top of that. Okay are as a matter you can pick their category math. Okay Okay Great. So Rob if you have fifty ping pong balls in your fishbowl and twenty percent of the balls yellow. How many balls are yellow? All right. So Fifty Roberts Fifty Fifty balls in his in his fishbowl And then what's the question. Twenty percent are yellow. Yes okay so then ten ten balls or yellow yes Grachev Akiva. Okay and what do you guys want to do more science. I'm trying to win. I don't WanNa Watch. I think that Akiva is scared of cats. I might be like a e type thing. That Areso might be spooky. I don't know like they say like some of the cats people like they take off their clothes and they're wearing more cat costumes and I don't know it. It seems like I'm not going to be able to follow it also The problem is cats when it's generally done it's people dressed up like these anthropomorphic cats but then they shrunk down for the movie okay and so they're not real size there the size of cats which is also just bizarre let's off-putting okay. All Right Mattie it so your question is predicting what will happen in. A science experiment is called what hypothesis. Yes Oh okay okay. Subtract on his ipod thisiis in thesis the same thing inner science. It's going to be called a hypothesis assists at the sixth grade level. which is what we're going with okay? I would've said thesis Akiva Mary. US scientists. I A computer scientist. Okay fine okay. I seem to feel like your response. Things that's not a real scientists then no it is. I just didn't know I thought for a second that maybe you were. I have the idea now. Technically my degrees in engineering but close enough all right okay. So now it's Robin Akiva. Stir and so it's rob's turn Mattie would you like to do geography geography again. Great Okay Rob. Where was Timbuktu located? Where was him yeah? India can't the answer we're looking for there. Is Molly what happened to it. I was confused by the wording of the question. Also but maybe maybe maybe is that why you said rob because in the a lot of the city's changed names like Like look at it. And that's what I was thinking. Oh because Yeah why what happened the Timbuktu like I feel like it was like grandma used to say Timbuktu a lot right like all the way to. Yeah but anyway. It's definitely not in the news anymore. I wonder what happened to it. Boy We've got to score update date of Mary. Yeah Matty has three points and robbing Akiva collectively have to all right all right. Mattie is leading in by one here Yeah I did a quick Google search on Timbuktu and I was a confused of whether or not it was still technically in Mali or not. But that's why I kept as was where would it be molly fifth grade standards of learning. So there's that okay all right all right okay running. I don't know much about molly. These days. What category would you like English English? Okay alright so in English what is the most often used consonant in the English language. The other way of thinking about this is what's very low scoring scrabble. Letter words with friends you gotta say all right with friends see see incorrect. The answer is T- four pointer. Is it really well. Yeah invoke book scrabble and words with friends are the points the same in those. I think there's a couple of differences. I was buying my mom scrabble for Christmas and I noticed that they also make words with friends the physical board game scrabble giving in on that. Yeah I feel that. There's no they're all right. I guess not not because not. Yeah I was going off of a new one of the letters they give you in the bonus round wheel of fortune. Yes it makes sense R. S. T. N. L. L. Any. Well he's not constantly right right right right okay okay. Mattie which category would you like rob to do those John Sir turn okay good Hiba. What kind of angle is more than ninety degrees but less than one hundred and eighty degrees acute? ooh that was incorrect and is an obtuse angle I was. I was bad at geometry that was that was really my school weakness now. See I've heard geometry. You're either good at geometry trigonometry or you're good at like calculus. It's one or the other. I mean they're both forms of math. I would assume many people are good at both or bedpost. Please stop making fun of Akiva that just because he said he wasn't good at something you don't have to keep talking about it. Yeah yes upbringing. Follow up questions. If it keeps us he can't do something. Area Rob is it rob is really he's mad about about about everyone you know He liked it better for the first five years when people were just always making fun of me with no recourse. Oh well you know. This is really good thing that this is not a Seinfeld quiz. Because I I have watched like two episodes Kramer poster though. Oh Mattie has a shirt with Kramer wearing the Red Hat George George. Excuse me George wearing the rat come on ACCUA. Sorry okay nervous about the game all right. Yeah all right what category would you like to do. maybe okay. Let's see how it goes all right. The ratio of girls to boys at a podcast in convention and is three girls. Two boys there were twelve boys. So how many girls were there. He will beat the question. Sure at a podcast in convention the ratio of girls to boys was three girls to two boys. There were twelve twelve boys. How many girls were there? I'm going to the wrong. podcasts conventions Akilah this has to be like it has to be my favorite murder. I think it's the only podcast. This is possible. I believe I'm more happy that there is an official question that definitely had the wording podcasting convention there starting to feel like this question. It's easier to figure out when you're looking at it Mhm Oh we should play like five points joints right. Yeah what is your should we played till I mean. WH The only thing is this the the point. The questions are each worth a certain number of points Um Yeah so if you want because we don't do every single question but you can pick sort of thing in the middle so if you WANNA like after one more round maybe do the spelling thing you you figured. Yeah I don't know okay. Yeah the answer that when his eighteen. But that's a easier to see when you get. You need your scrap grab paper for that one. I think. Yeah definitely All right so one more question and we'll go to this spelling round So matty what category would you like them to views on the Fox. Grab perfect right. Yeah Yes we're Rob Rob. What is the fitness Grand Pacer test? What is the fitness gram? Hey Sir test I'll fitness Graham Pacer Test is it an APP. Wow It isn't is definitely not an APP. Oh yes you did you when you were in like a gym class or P E did you ever have to run the mile. Yes so after a while they stopped doing that Most of the time they switched it to the Pacer test so it is a shuttle run that is testing your endurance. As opposed to just running a mile I thought fitness Graham was like like a hash tag. That people were using on instagram. Oh Yeah that makes sense rob. I cannot know this either and she may have made this up. Even I'll not made it up. This is also another great name so you should also look that okay. Why matty you do the fitness Grand Pacer Test Yes okay Jackpot? I was really afraid. That was just a Virginia thing. Okay awesome okay. Great all right well then so now we have a bonus spelling round here so so you are each going to get a spelling word. Well I guess we'll get to so we can do this here. Okay Okay so so. Let's start with Akiva Akiva. Can you spell diminutive okay. Now this is one of those words. That's probably easier to spell bell with paper or or computer. All Right Diminutive D I am I and you. Ti is their next to I on there. Maybe that is correct. Okay oh well yeah. Yeah that was that like some kind of strategy with the lumping the first two in the second two words together and then real never really asked the spell words out loud. I am the spelling bee in many years. I don't know many. Have you ever been in a spelling bee now. Yeah it's It used to be a joke that I would do it. Because I'm a terrible terrible speller so I was usually get out. I continue with that enter spelling bees as a joke mass to be the first one right. yeah in my friends would come out and watch and I usually get out on like the first word so it was pretty fun all right. Mattie your word is Calculus Oculus C. L. C. E. O. U. S. That is incorrect. Calculus has to use. Seal C. U. L. US those clothes and that's a tough also because she isn't six rate so she definitely has not learned. Calculus Is a sixth grade spelling words though. Interestingly Okay Okay John Okay and rob. Younger word is hilarious. Okay Hilarious H.. I L. A. R. I O.. Oh U. S. hilarious. Yes I would have been hilarious if you ask for it in the sentence though language of origin please. They didn't give me that they give me the part of speech and the definition although you know if this was definitely like some people out there right now who like if you were asking what was like girlfriend. Big Brother who didn't reports the speech. Oh this this would have been ready. You don't watch big brother do I do you do do you like that better than survivor. Now acts the Bible better. Okay yeah all right all right Okay so that was the first spelling round here. which now has the score at a Tie of three three P. Zero no rob. You got your point right. Yeah Yeah I had already factored in that. You'RE GONNA spell hilarious wrong but a- well. Why did you factor in that is going to spell it wrong? Is that my reputation. I'm a terrible speller. We set the PODCAST. I Great Speller. How often are you A? How often are you writing? I don't know yeah a good speller but he did say last week is not a good Speller Speller not a great student. I don't apply myself. That's sad teacher. said he had a lot of potential. Yeah stay in in school matter. You don't you. Don't WanNa go down the road I did okay yeah. Ra so now coming into the second round of this game Robin Keever. I bet you get to pick a category for matty okay Do English sure. Okay English Let's see matty can you. What name any of the five parts of story The introduction yes conclusion Yep those are the anymore now okay. Well that's too so to five parts of the story. You heard the five parts of the store. They taught us this in like fifth or sixth grade since the beginning the middle climax middle. I don't know much ends are the climax and the falling action and the rising action. I forgot Mattie forgot it for sure Robin I for Yes All right so that's more points for Matt. aww Yes mary. The score is now five Mattie for Robin Akiba You know if view if only you had known with a Pacer test was yeah. Yeah okay. Mattie what category would you like them to do the key rising action or the falling action of the story all right Akiva either similar question. What is is the name of a triangle in which all three sides have different lengths hot again three lanes uh all the triangles are are all that the not nice socities right is that I remember? It's only trying to remember. It's been awhile. Wow that's that's incorrect. The answer scaling Yeah but it would be a great baby name right. Okay okay you know. You don't like that. Now what have you got another cat. Would you name it Isosceles now. Hi That's pretty awesome. Cat Name Yeah Okay so Robin Kiva you can pick a category for matty. How about geography? Mainly the answer. Here is a peninsula in Silla. Yes Okay Florida only example. I can think of all right. So matty is winning and in and we're losing by a point right. Yes so if we don't get this one then Mattie wins right well is there a final jeopardy or something it near the final Donald Trump. Should we go after after this. Should we go to Fi- I think. Definitely okay awesome are so matty. If you could select a category for Robin Akiva Rob The van. Okay great question okay so into lunch bag alright. I'm rob. Which Planet is the sixth farthest from the Sun? Okay which planet is the sixth farthest from the Sun. What is Mattie particularly into the solar system? Now this is just this is just a random qualicon right so it's really not one about South Housley so earth is three Mars is four and then going to say a a sixth out. Let's say is Jupiter ooh fiery the answers sadder. What's Yup Jupiter? Here's the fifth really. We're that close. Yeah yeah well everything. Everything gets a little more sat in confusing when you knocked out Pluto back. When I was in sixth grade Pluto is still planet? Yeah okay all right go into the final round. Yes so we are going going to the final round here and for for this question rob and Kiva and I'll well you know what I'll say you too can work together on this question about that. Okay so you didn't work together and Matty you can give me her answers. Okay so Akiva you'll send me your answer. And then I'll have mattie say it out loud Algarotti. Your question is in the Harry Potter books and Yes. The category here was something. Mary is interested in when she was in sixth grade Um in their e potter books what are the names of the three slithering antagonists with the name all three. Yeah as many as you can get. Oh my God. So the three slithering bad boys Robby Robin to to help me here. I mean can help you sure I mean can you because I was thinking like we could communicate over the computer but I don't know yeah Akiva I don't know anything about out Harry Potter but thr- If you had said one I think maybe I'm maybe I'm okay re It's been a while since I read the first six books and then quit before the seventh. Okay I just sent Mary my answers. Yeah okay sure all right so matty. Do you know the answer. Answer to this question if she gets win Well it depends how many she gets but probably yeah. Okay Okay Yeah matty no the three slither in boys in Harry Potter Able I think Malfoy okay all right well hates bring it to you guys but Mattie guy two out of three right and she was very close on the third and end Akiva while you did say Drako Malfoy your other answers sleep and Baltimore. So that is independence evil. They're both like bad guys. The hogwarts house probably here not They're not what I would say is the three slithering boy antagonists come on. Come on thanks to Kiva. Oh I don't WANNA watch cats. Can we double or nothing okay. I know you're stuck thanks. So what with the final score of six to seven actually to five is the winner. Wow okay well. How does it feel good? undefeated is are are not in fact SMARTER THAN I guess S. Nine. We were bested here today. Kiva had I known if I had just read that seventh Harry Potter Book. Bet The answer was in there too. Who's WHO's like who's who's in the house? That's probably unlike page four of the book okay. All right So that was. Are you smarter than sixth grader. Mattie how does it feel his great okay Matty do you have any ideas for the wheel. That should be up there. None I was thinking what about. I couldn't come up with anything. Is there something you're looking forward to. That's on the wheel or that's been discussed that you want us to do that. We've talked about I got what about fan fiction. Do you want to write fan fiction like a fake story about Robin Akiva and there and what they do catharines fun. Do you have any ideas for Mary for a potential Fan Fiction about Robin Akiva. Yeah it's it's Okay I've got. I've got three word documents full of ideas problem here too. Many ideas I have a lot of ideas and it's it's getting all the jokes together but okay I feel like coming. So soon. After the sleepover podcast it just. It just wouldn't be right. You'd be right. Yeah that's going to be hard for podcast episodes to live up to you know upcoming episodes to live up to that. I feel much more intriguing idea back when you only had ten ten ten episodes yes Mattie do you have anything else that you want to talk to myself or Akiva or Mary about now. Okay all right Mattie thank you for being a part of the podcast today and taking part in in this quiz we really appreciate it. Are you going back to school. Yeah Okay Yeah could brag to all your friends about beating us. Ah Tell GRANDPA Steve Tell me say hi. You came to Minnesota and we'll see you in Scranton. The summer for Robin Akiva live. I assume that's where we're going rob scranton people want us to go to Scranton. We have we have a listener. Who is a Lindsey Wilson suggestion to get the office. podcast back off the ground. No we have a listener actually Who is a part owner of the AAA team? And they said the run the run of the land to fellow to the Scranton wilkes-barre and where are we going to share this with us when I was GONNA save it for the I I assume at some point to do some sort of bracket and figure out where we're going in a couple of months okay All right Mattie anything you WANNA plug while you're here now okay all right Mattie thank you so much okay okay hi Mary. Are you going to stick around for the mailbag today. Yes Okay Mary. I'm not even GonNa say anything about the fan fiction because that I know that you are that I felt terrible when we heard about. You know how much the links that you are going to to procrastinate writing it and you did a lot of work today to get ready for making all of these questions for the quiz today no I look this fan fiction it will happen and it's GonNa it's GonNa be Great. I have very very fun ideas for it and I think it's going to be really good. I don't I don't like I don't like pressure. There's no there's no okay. If it happens it happens then. It's not even on the wheel and remember it's not erotic fan fiction. We not that go. There will be rising action climax from what I understand. Yes yeah and and then falling from what. I understand all right before we get to the mail l. bag let me Quickly thank our sponsor for this episode of the PODCAST. Does our friends over at that online. Dot A. G. of course Big Football weekend coming. Keep your pumped up for the weekend. Yeah I mean my co host. Alex Chester is a Vikings Fan and he truly livers lives or dies with them so it was You know it's it's like I feel like it's more than Stefan digs. Yeah for sure I mean we did it. We did like a fifteen minute Minnesota right. After the Vikings is one he was completely incoherently drunk. It was a delight. Remember one thing he said a few hours later yeah His kids kept coming to the room. I felt bad for the. I don't know it was the whole thing So it's I think it's in my best interest for them to keep winning. And then ultimately suffer like a heartbreaking defeat in the super bowl. Okay all right well. Is this the best football all weekend of the year. Akiva say it is especially if you include Monday with the College Football Championship okay. So a big weekend coming up of course So so much going on checkout bet online dot. AG The presenting sponsor of the podcast one sports net challenged the five thousand dollar season-long charity contests of course. 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You Know Mary is a is a mailbag die hard Berries ever heard skips the meat of the podcast gets the mail bag. He had an idea. Well you know I'm I'm ah I'm never mentioned in the meet at the podcast. That's true we do talk about you sometimes on Mary did we ask you. We don't talk trash about you. We I think we said that we made you famous. And we're responsible for your podcast and career. I did Mary. Did you have an opinion on the I think she's in her Q.. AKIVA okay fine. I don't know what about me and my personality makes you think that I have listened to a podcast that came out within the last week Okay you know In the procrastination section I just finished that's more like an Eliana shade that keeps not listening to every BNB episode I married. Did you finish the marathon. I did yeah. I did finish a marathon and I listened to. I think it was. I think it was like a know it alls but I was listening to a podcast for some of it so it is that the WHO've I think that's the thing I would like about running is listening to a lot of podcasts and it is I'm I'm very like auditorium the sensitive in terms like memory so like if I run somewhere and I'm listening to a podcast every time I run there. That's what will be. That's what I think about like. Oh I know exactly where I was when I was listening to this too. Yeah Yeah you gotta get the two headphones okay. That's the key. Yeah keep it. I feel like I can use US some more podcast recommendations I've got too much news in sports in my feed depressing. Yeah I'll send you some offline. What was the We we ranked our top opt-in podcasts. I had some good ones. I'll I'll send you I'll send you my list. Yeah there was. There was a good true crime. One I listen to this year the name of over my dead body uh-huh about some famous lawyer who who who gets killed and it's like they assume that it's his wife's rich family from Florida. It's pretty good. Listen to this. Murder is not really my speed. I think you're more than got back in particular mood or do you. Do you have like a podcast for every mood or do you. Just kind of whatever whatever's on Mir your Akiva guest. We're really have a podcast by mood. I do because if I'm in a certain type mood I'll only be able to listen to music nick exactly. Yeah I got like podcast. I can listen to work ones. I can listen to it when I'm driving. Everyone's got those wants to put them to sleep. MHM podcast. I listen to when my kids are awake. So that's one of the Nice things about about rob's podcasts. Almost always can listen. White kids wake but mostly other ones I feel you like even the ones that like. Oh I can put this on and my kid comes in. There's like four. FM's in twenty seconds that I wouldn't normally notice except by daughters laughing and giggling. I don't I don't have kids but I'm similar with with my parents. I don't realize necessarily the content until you should listen to this. And then I play it out loud and get a lot of feedback. When when your dad drops the juggling balls on the floor you know smash your kid but we have a special rug in our in my parents house? That's eh where he has to go stand in Juggle because it's too loud if they fall on the floor. Y WHO's sensitive to the ball dropping on the floor and you know it anyone else. WHO's in the room with him because he wants to juggle while watching? TV Ask constantly juggling. The balls are dropping. Yeah Yeah Yeah I wish I was kidding about all of this. We also have some. That would laugh at you and you drop them. Those are the worst who would laugh at you. The bottles they had like a little. It was like a toy and if you they found the ground if they got hit they would laugh at you so there are juggling balls that tone you yeah exactly and it so knowing so it teaches you to not drop the ball. Wow okay well Kiva you you know so much about juggling now. We might need Mary's Dad. The juggler come on and and really teach us the INS and outs of Juggling John. I actually just got a facebook message from him. That says that someone someone wants to interview him for a book. Oh about his juggling. So you guys gotTa Get Jump On this bandwagon. Is that how you communicate with your dad via facebook message well. We have multiple facebook messages. We've got a specific one for survivor and a specific one for the bachelor and a specific family. And there's a phone number whatever you do. Don't ask Akiva if he knows how to juggle. You're not you're I'm not ready for the social media. Backlash man okay. Okay noted Alright Akiva what do we have for the wheel episode so number sixty seven potentially okay. I'll I've gotten a lot of feedback over the last few months to that we have. We have gone. We've gone away from the sequel mechanism. It is not existed in many homes. Yeah and people want to bring it back I mean. Haven't we been doing that. Well we don't we haven't had any sequels Really except for Nita murder to which got put on and it was never really officially in the sequel. Mechanism involves the twenty sided. Die But I think we can put to back in one for this coming week. If you're up for it. Okay what is it so ah Mike. Bloom has said he is more than ready to to do Brand steel stands versus ops. If you're down okay and then starting next week Toni. Massaro says we can put conspire pod. Three in on the wheel. Okay so those would be sequel mechanism shows and not separate spots on the wheel. I I mean it. It practically makes very little difference two zero difference this week when just one of them will be there but sure Okay all right. So the sequel mechanism Kazimi. It gets how many spots on the wheel one per one per episode idea okay. Mary do you have any thoughts on whether or not the both the ratification of the constitution should be. Its own episode. I Yeah I definitely think it should be. Its own episode. Got Plenty of to talk about their okay so I mean look the the constitution I think I I need. I need some clarification advocation on all of the rules. I WANNA know who's in charge. Who's going to be held accountable? There's any punishment I this is. This is all good things to having a podcast. Cast right right because Mary as a person who you play dungeons and dragons like there needs to be like a thoroughly thought Al L. Like rule mechanism. Right yes yeah I am. I am that person who's constantly asking questions about what I can do. Now the beauty of dungeons and dragons Reagan's is that you can completely ignore any of the rules and make them up yourself. So maybe that's the direction you'd like. Maybe you might like that Akiva. Yeah I we can work. I'm working on it. It's not like listen rob. I I really think this week in particular I had my hand in like eight or nine different episodes that are ongoing. Like it's not like I'm sitting here during the week. Do nothing like the Constitution. Welcome okay so these things are coming okay. So so what am I waiting for you. So you're saying that hold tight you are working with the the people that are writing the constitution. I have to send them an email. Okay I owe them in a preamble and is there a school of Russian. The House rocks. I'll song that goes along with it. oh I guess we could. I guess we'll read is a song for the constitution. I'm not sure Okay Haley. Haley Ford could write us a constitution inside. That's true she can do a rap now. Keeps your your action item to me is forget about it. My action item. Yeah don't worry us you're telling me don't worry about it forget about it you're on it. You're we're constitution. Yeah I mean we can have. I mean I don't know everything's everything's be worked on. I you know I forgot to email the guy back this week. Okay I'm but I but I think our action item is For for this is is to put stands versus APPs on the wheel for this week. Okay I've got sequel mechanism Off Perfect so that's on the wheel. How about this should? Maybe not. This week should food. Because we're in a constitutionalist constitution lists lawless society. Should there be like. Let's say there's three sequels on the wheel. Should there be a fourth slot should should there be like four spots on the wheel. Should be one more than the amount of podcasts. In the sequel mechanisms. That makes sense. Mary's if there's two there's two shows was it gets three spots on the wheel if there's five shows in the mechanism and get six spots on the wheel. I'm no so it's more likely the good episodes get picked up. I have no idea idea I think it's fine. I liked you know one spot per ideas on them. Then leave it. Okay alright what else any other. Update this yeah No I have a say a couple of big updates next week we have. We have multiple big pieces of news. I think coming next week okay other than we have to watch cats other than we have to watch cats. That's going to be a nightmare. It's it's not even available online. It might be in two weeks cats. I know a guy I know a guy that can get it for you. You know a cat scan. The problem is the the award screeners that people have offered to To Send Me. Let's say cats not any them so I don't know if yeah I know the guy I got you okay. So I've writes writes in and says what about Robin Akiva. Watch re watchable. So I don't know if you guys are familiar with the Ringel. or The ringers. Re watchable podcast. I am but they were married Mary. So they watch Classic movies you know. Sort of like mostly nineties movies but not not exclusively very watchable movies and they give out a lot of awards during the movies and At the big the big news the last few weeks is that Quinn Tarantino has been on the podcast like three weeks in a row These supposedly very good at analyzing movies. which makes sense make sense? Seems like win. Tarintino might be bored like I feel like when I saw that in my podcast. Vitas like what happened to Quin Tarantino. Nineteen oh I'll tell you what had tried to give himself like a limit for how many movies he was GonNa make yeah. He's sleeps retired Rob. I mean I'm sure we'll come back but like if you're a director director you're not making a movie you got nothing going on. I guess so. You know he's got no side projects probably like what else is he doing. He doesn't he's not like Jerry Bruckheimer that he's got like twelve movies going on at all times or TV shows Michael Bay so I guess the idea is that we would listen. We would listen to an episode of the Rewatch ables. We would watch the same a movie they would watch. And then we'd give out our awards for their bad takes about the movie. I think that this seems very niche. I can't imagine that there's a ton of interest clamoring for that. What do you think Mary That if if you were on a run and you heard that the Robin Akiva are GonNa GonNa be watching a movie that somebody else did a podcast about recently. I'm not sure about the listening to their podcast. I I like the concept of giving out awards for something You know like ally the throne awards kind of thing. I like that but I don't. I know I don't know if it needs to be the same as one that they've done or the same type of podcasts that feels a little bit like something skipping to the mailbag for Rob Should we give it awards for this episode at the end. Who Won? Who on the sleepover podcast episode last week besides the Lindsay Linda Linda Wilson best director Chester had some good lines in there. Good lines but he had been audio. I don't know why he didn't use his podcasting. Gassing microphone. He never remembers alley. Lascher had some good lines Yup It was funny here. you know Will and Courtney Courtney wish death upon me or something. Yeah Yeah I feel like maybe it was. He has a car best supporting actor. One person I didn't really dominate the documentary A lot of people Wrote in over twenty people I think wrote in and said I want to podcast with Lindsay Linzie and I forwarded them all to her. Okay Whitey Ford that that was going to be a podcast we're GONNA find Lindsay New podcast co host. Honestly I mean we still can I mean there's no reason why can't I think she had already picked someone. By the time we head even I had even started mailing them but we still can i. I'm not sure that's a full episode. Lord I don't know yeah. I thought we could have made that decision before. You just forwarded all those Lindsey well we can't anymore she's already got them. We could still go over there. She hasn't had the people we can help me live on the if we said. Oh let's see if we can do who wants to marry missy and then everybody that emailed you just sent them all to missy. Yeah but I mean like it's better if they could pick her like if it's if it's on the podcast me you and Lindsey could pick it together I honestly the reason I forward them is because we were getting so many. I knew that I would lose them if I didn't have them and she's more responsible. That'd be so cedar okay. Well she's very talented married. You WanNa podcast about the office. I actually I do. I'm just re- watching the finished the office so I I started over again says pretty with me. Well I wanNA take Kirsten Mad. If I set you up with any other podcasters well the I think she she would be the the least persons mad at me. There's probably three other podcasts. That I have in the works that are just you guys have an open relationship. You see you podcast with other podcasters. And that's that's how exactly how I would defend it. Define my relationship with Kirsten Akiva and I have an open relationship. Yeah well you have a lot of other partners for sure. Warn another person right. That's true that's exactly. Yeah I agree. We discuss it with our podcast therapist all the time we get one. I only get one extra pot potted little relationship and he's gets literally dozens It comes it comes up in pod therapy. Should we do that. here's an idea from an ESA. Robin Keith are newlyweds. I've I heard this mentioned a few times. Never goes anywhere. Robin go head to head with the duo say Kirsten and frail Mary And and you know you answer questions about each other like it's the newlywed game. And then she said. Get the reluctant It she said you. Wonderful Ideals is Mike and Liana Sally slasher and and Miss. Let's see or or Brian Cohen Putin Liana and she said get the reluctant Kirsten McGinnis to host improve your podcast chemistry. I'm not sure what Kirsten's reluctant about in terms of the podcast test should we said we've we've rejected a couple times. Should we play the POD newlywed game against another do. Oh yeah that kind of is game. Night wh- What do you think Mary. I think it's definitely as part of game night. It's it's good you. I think the key with that one is is finding questions that are going to be funny. If you do who managed to get the right answer or wrong answer it still still funny either way so if you can get if you can get that I think any of those options illicit are great opponents. Yeah thank God. We have a lot of duos to choose from out there. We have a lot of deals to choose for. How do you feel about Akiva Whatever yeah whatever if you love it I will do it and if you hate it I'm willing to never think about it again took all I'm more indifferent to it? I just think that it's not that novel of an idea. Yeah I feel like it could be around in game night next time around. I think that could be rather game night. Let's say it's me and you against it. Whoever it is and and yeah we could? We could submit. That's not a bad that was looking for one. More game I think in terms of sequels and the sequel mechanism I in my mind gave night like is automatically automatically coming back when it's available and when it's eligible episodes right. Yeah so that was a big hit game night so yes so I already have. I think four or five games. This could be the game and it's all set. Yeah I think a good round now the game I I. I don't think there's enough there to make it its own episode By the way if you have any more ideas for conspiracy this is the last week the sentiment to Antonia Mazaar wheels have to choose and ally. I two forms to fill out. If you go twitter feed. It should be there at some point. Robin even catchphrase. There's a million things if you scroll down with her feet at that too if you want to participate in this podcast. There's thirty different for ways to do so right now. This is a great idea from ten dollar. John Grubb okay. He says last March during brackets. Are we bring back back practicies. I'm rob. We did a lot of bread and March last year. I know but that was but it's march march madness. You do brackets. We don't WanNa do I do. I don't want to do as many brackets gets US last year. What did we do I think three we did? The the TV theme song which was a really big hit yeah idea bracket which was it did really really well in the in the rankings. Yeah and then we did. Stand this the Robin Akiva stand tournament which is also bracket so the role hits You can't lose with the bracket apparently Maybe that's the issue. With the King of the mets we didn't make bracket that was the issue so here so John Dollars idea is what about the terrible idea bracket listeners listeners. Submit ideas for the PODCASTS. That they know you guys will hate but in theory or feasible to do and the guy is determined what ideas the worst the winner gets to be on the mailing. Yes so what do you think about Out this year instead of doing the ideal braque do terrible idea bracket I mean it's a funny idea. The terrible idea racket by I. Yeah that the ideas that would be the most terrible I think would not be funny like I think there's a sweet spot the ideas that are funny because they're not that terrible but the most terrible ideas would be highly offensive and not find fine right right. Well you say he's saying ideas that are in theory possibly on the world but I guess yeah it's a it's a weird Middle Ground where you right. You need funny ideas that are possible. Oh but also not like completely either vulgar or or just absurd. Whatever I I think? It's a funny bit Mary. You have any ideas on how to a salvage. The terrible idea bracket yeah. It's just like you guys are saying it needs to be curated because like the worst ideas are also things that are just like super boring. Not Very funny to win Okay so I mean had the ideas I the other thing you could do instead of doing. A full bracket is just if you can curate. You know five or six really terrible ideas and then just do a podcast discussing those people pitch be terrible ideas. I have no idea for. Maybe this could work Akiva one one side of the bracket were things that Akiva would really hate but rob might potentially go for okay the other side of the bracket where things that rob would really hate but a Kiva might actually go for. You're like a two part constitution episode. Kiva hates rob would go. Yeah so that's one side of the bracket and then ultimately I guess are we tried to sign him would be more like what would be most hated. What would be? Actually you know that could a rob Akiva split the difference of that the one with the two ideas battle it out of what. What potential idea that rob would hate or Akiva would hate but the other would like that then that actually ends up going on the whale or should the listeners vote for the final two okay? Did we get it. We get it down to two and then or we could just to. I have a third person come on with us and vote. Whatever you want Mary what do you think about that? Is that getting too convoluted. I like the Ram Akiva split the difference. I like where you guys have to. You're both you know. Obviously trying to champion your own things and you have to come to a decision together. which when you both be willing to do in Kentucky the split the baby? We'll try that one AKIVA. Could that work we could. We get idea solicited rob would potentially. Hey but you would be up for and vice versa. This'll be a lot of fighting this episode. I feel like I think that's probably I point in its favour. Okay all right well. What do people sending ideas and we'll see where it goes? If people are into this I have no problem doing it. People like this idea all all right so this isn't even you switched from the terrible idea. Bracketed like the fifty fifty idea bracket the medium idea bracket well again. I think that there is A. He's sweet spot. There is a medium place of you know the the the the most terrible ideas we could not even discuss. Yeah that's True Rob I've one more idea to pitch today. Yeah would you like to hear a normal regular idea that has a chance to get on the wheel or an all time bad idea. I think I'd like to hear an all time bad idea okay. This is from Sean Notch on the Mailman Warman and it's called the conversion cast. Okay okay. listeners in Khiva Compete for Rob Soul in some sort of religion bracket each selected religion. This could be stretched to include any sort of heritage or lifestyle the Pitch Robin joining them in the lifestyle and customs for one year or maybe a month. If he won't commit that law guests will share the positives and fun things about the religious holidays can be explained unique tradition in special foods etc Akiva represent Judaism but other religions groups can be represented Buddhism. Atheism people do cross fit libertarians. This idea might sound too controversial but the risks could be mitigated if the guests commit to always being about the positives of their specific religion or lifestyle. Should we pick a new religion for rops. Stern Look Look I. I think that there could be some laughs. I couldn't really changed my religion. Our you know. Hey family guess what you know the participating in imagine. How much do I would hate haber nap if you had to like? Start going to some special church or something. Yeah so I mean it's it's funny to talk about. I don't know how you actually execute that idea. Listen I told you you that it was a bad idea. That's yeah okay all right Mary. Do you WanNa hear the medium idea. Yeah let's see. We come back from Mary. Do you have any ideas while I while I Right one while I guess the idea here every time I think idea the only thing that POPs in my head is trading spaces boys vs girls and I happened and which have either. Have you ever watched that show so not a okay. Not Original trading spaces. There was a different show. Called trading spaces says boys versus girls. Where you you had a girl and boy who were? I don't know probably like elementary school. Middle School and their rooms would get made up like you know just ridiculous things that only a kid would really like like my room is a candy store. My Room is a castle And they were very extravagant and it was a really really delightful show so this doesn't involve that we end up like Switching rooms with a woman right now this is just a show that I think. I don't know 'cause we would watch the show not actually live this life but it's the kind of thing you could probably probably save until you've got some more I don't know if that was on. HDTV scholars coverage now. Yeah so if you had if you had one of those a similar to the MTV shows are trash if you had a couple more shows but you should definitely include that just put in your back pocket for for some time. Okay all right. That's that's that's the only one that I really have at the moment hunk Akiva. Did you ever watch trading spaces boys girls no no form of of trading spaces. Have I ever watched a guy. I don't know much about it. Yeah maybe maybe listeners could let us know I have one more year by the way have. Did you hear back or did you contact Dr Mike this week about sixty nine. I did not eh because this is episode sixty seven so maybe You know the next put astrology up. I'll follow up with him okay So Jonathan says do you guys remember the weakest link. It's a fast paced game where we would ask in this scenario Robin Akiva in two or three other people Individual questions but you have to work as a team to get more money in the bank. You have to say bank before you ask the question. Say what you guys have up to that point. I think it'd be fun. And maybe we could have some renewed focus questions. Robin Kiva are the weakest links. I think that it would be spawned. I think it might be difficult to execute married. You ever watch the weakest link. Think I but I have quoted that line a lot what you are the Weakest Link Goodbye. Goodbye Yeah Yeah you know. Yeah where have tried to spoken. What was her name? Do you remember she was yeah. She was like the hottest personal pop and Robinson. Yeah what the heck ever happened to an Robinson weather weather rise and fall. Dan Robinson. Yeah I mean you WanNa do or at least popular episode. We can do it. I'll wipe out with the rise and fall of JT. One of the least popular. No but people know who. JT is. I feel like in Robinson. Nobody knows even remember her name. Okay let's see the fall of the Weakest Link Lady Lady Saint Birthday on Robinson Okay and been keeping busy. Ever since her stint on the weakest link and she is now L. Seventy two and she's been very public about the plastic surgery and I guess she's I WANNA public. I don't WANNA throw shade. I don't wanNA throw shade Robinson but wikipedia has got a different age. Oh okay yeah yeah yeah okay all right. It's a very different age that I'm looking at. It brought it back in twenty seventeen for for a spell Yeah we guess Lincou. Yeah so this is the same podcast. That didn't episode of Wind Shut Up. Tim's money so I don't think it's out of the question to do a weakest link. I think we have to be reminded of the rules but I don't know how would there be any hype. Mayor we listened to that episode Weakest Link Trivia or Trivia via contest. I like games If it's if it's Marianne little young and missed missed the weekend. I think that trivia contests can be hit or miss a trivia contests. I would say. It's almost better when you have very specific trivia but then you know you're gonNA have people who aren't gonNA listen but at least everyone who is GonNa Listen. We'll be really into it then you can play along with yes always fast pace. I feel like is good. Yeah Yeah Okay Fair enough for game night to gain All right so let's hold off on weakest link anything else I think that's it. I'm excited for next week. I've got a bunch of interesting things to discuss with you in the mail bag. All right. Well what a tease. Yeah what not. We'll see what next week is. Who knows what what episode we do? Who knows what next weekend all right? Let's talk about the wheel here. All right we have got for US season. Three episodes seven ballooning up to four spots on the wheel coin. Yes we have the crappy movie diaper. We have a Mount Rushmore Matt. Roush more I think that the one that's been on the wheel for the longest. Yes it broke. It is broken records at this point at least June. Okay for Mount Rushmore of twenty nine. Yeah Yeah we have the people's choice. We've we've got the third wheel tournament that could get a bunch of spots in March of it makes it all the way there wheeler no wheel. I I feel like that. There's now a hype for Wheeler no wheel. But I'm I'm I'm excited for wheeler no wheel That's DJ Lebel Klein. And I think Leon helped him but you know he really did not exterior wrong last year. So I'm excited for that one. Okay enjoy the view Mary. Are you view viewer. I have watched like an episode. Two not an. We'll have time to watch these. I mean you did this at noon on Thursday married. There's a set Kirsten mcguiness whose available a noon on Thursday. She's like Oh frail. Mary yeah you're you know you guys would be having get to unpack my house so yeah okay we ask you to fan fiction American you can you talk about that you mentioned on the the of BNB that you are moving constantly to avoid writing the fan fiction. How many times have you moved in the last year? This is my second move in the last year but I did just look at an apartment downstairs of same buildings that Y Y You keep moving it was just the thrill of the chase. What are you chasing my dream home? I haven't figured out what that is yet so I like it. It's fine I've done. You know I put up some Christmas lights. Do you have a lot when you move no this time around on especially not so. That's why we're in we're in month to Of technically when I started moving and I'm still not even close to being unpacked. Wow family has to get involved with the move now. They don't help me kidding me. Yeah you ask people once rob. I think the second time my sister asked me to help remove I would not I would not you know when she facebook messaged me and said Hey. Can you help me move. I would say now One year one year in college I moved into four different different buildings within the span of three months. So after that I have gotten zero. Help So you yeah. That might be an episode on of itself rob like why is fail. Mary constantly moving. We're roommates kicking you out. Did you have a bad roommate. Streak like the the seems interesting. I Dunno no yeah so many reasons. Let's keep going. I don't know if it's a spot on the wheel. Yeah I look good. Roommate sometimes can be a factor I generally think it's them. It's not me so I have a lot of bad roommate stories. I have a couple. I wouldn't saying they're bad roommate stories but just more. What on Earth is happening here? How is this a real person stories? But but other than that mostly mostly. I have to move Just because I've wanting to live with another person send but don't have room find a two bedroom place or you know who don't make noisy upstairs. Neighbors that kind of thing Juvenille. UBANI advice for people trying to find a roommate. What are what are some of the do's and don'ts Definitely try to find someone. If it's going to be like a someone and you don't already know then try to find someone at least who you have a mutual friend that you can get advice from that person also also just. I've pretty much firmly. Believe like unless you're gonNA live with a spouse or with like a a sibling or something like that or like a maybe like a really really really best friend Dan. You Never WanNa live with like a mid level friend because then you're gonNA hate each other any other one that you're either O. K.. Arguing arguing with like someone who you're really really close with or someone who you're GonNa Kinda just let things slide because you're you're not that close anyway. Some people spouse is a mid level friends. It could be tricky. That's that's very would you be. Would you be into Lindsey Wilson Interviewing all twelve of your roommates for. I could just find out if it's if it's you I. Yeah I UH-HUH SO Mary. I missed offering into Mary. Yeah just to know about that if you have like a mutual friend then is it weird when that mutual friend comes over because I is it like well who is the better friend with the mutual friend. Yeah Yeah you know away. The there's that and then there's also like if you yourself are the mutual friend and you're setting up to of your friends to live together and then they either become closer or now you're putting yourself in the position. Where if they arguments you're going to be hearing about it from both sides So that's I wouldn't do. They have in common right. Yeah there's there's that So that can be tricky bit preferably pick a mutual friend WHO's not also in the same vicinity. Maybe you when you knew from High Kiva. How about this for the wheel? Okuda we match together. Forget best friends. Could we find wind roommates. No no you're not I mean we could we could. It's a lot of work for me and ultimately that's a lot of work. Okay we pick a city okay. We're like I would think I would start with sort of like the greater like New York City area. I feel like New York. La Chicago support is okay areas the Mary could be the guest host the RA. Yeah and then okay. We're matching a matching people that are looking for room mates and we try to get them on the podcast and then Mary can help us decide if they would be good. Roommates rates are not give them different scenarios. See how they would act There would be keeping water liability beyond that a very high have to speak to her. Let me speak tour of the PODCAST. Attorney Alexander Chester. See what he what he thinks. I mean we already have the best friend finder we could with the best friend find her. Try and set up some room mates drink people into maybe setting up relationship Mary tell you until you. Buddy Carson McGinnis to get get cracking on the best friend finds her. I don't know what's going on with that. You know what form so I feel like. I've done my part here. Well isn't isn't Kirsten. Your best friend. S and now we're gonNA get into now. We're going to get people in trouble here. You're up She's probably the person that I speak to the most regularly. WHO's outside of my family or co workers but you know should should you ever live with a CO worker? No no Jesse. co-host yeah. Well let's see that would make that more convenient my My revenge. podcast was doing much better when I was living with the CO host. The your revenge podcast was the podcast that you started to get back at one of your previous podcast hosts curse. Yeah yeah that's that's what that was No those with your sister right. I'm a diehard frail. Mary stand I know what's go. Yeah it was it was with my sister. But that's a that is why I was looking at another apartment because my sister may or may not move back in with the eventually and if that happens Oh oh boys as they're going to be more revenge podcasting okay. So you'll be back at Kirsten by podcasting with system. Then it has a double meaning. Okay Got Nice all right rob you were talking about the view and I want to say like if that comes up I'm excited for it because The views in the news. They nobody to each other right now. Yeah the the page six near coastal loves covering view. Yes I feel like we're GONNA have a lot of fun with the view if that comes up right now. Yeah I feel like that people like it when they fight on the view view. I feel like if on any of these podcasts. You know there's any sort of tough conversations people get very upset. Yeah you know why because the view it's like foreign people I think they ever gonNA listen to the podcast considers you their friend. Yeah so they're like wiping me and my friend. Yeah I don't ever hear. Why is anybody being means a rob on a podcast? No one's ever been mean to rob. Yeah all right then Robin keeping the verdict Ritz Robert Catchphrase. Yup excited for that. One Rob McEwen give listeners nicknames. Mary are you excited to hear us. Give people nicknames That could be good. Doesn't sound like I feel like I didn't. I didn't love if you're if we're basing your nicknames off Komo Spongebob Matt. Then he got a little no then he could. He came up with that himself. I think he did. I think he just mentioned that he wants you. Had Kids Licorice Liguori better. I don't remember I think one of them. We did and one of them. He did famously. Mary have a nickname frail Mary. How did that come to the crazy thing about Maria's handle that no one had actually ever recalled me that by name until rob started calling me that semi and full House twitter? I didn't make it up. No it was. It was my twitter because a friend of mine made my twitter for me back in high school and at the time she had called me frail Mary I think one time and and then it just stuck in was a lot easier to market myself so I think it's a good nickname. It's a good nickname. Guy Ring bring to it but I don't think anyone no one really calls me that in real life but I I will say some people. They're they're handles. Do follow all of them around because will for America that is all that me and my friends call him Yeah and he gave himself that name. Yeah well well. Nobody was going to call him his first twitter name which no one was calling them. That okay all right and then I sequel mechanism has been added to the wheel. All right Okay so let's save our settings and then let's go ahead and pop out our wheel deal for the week and let's spend to see what is coming up in episode numbers sixty eight coming up on next week's wheel. Okay Oh all right then Akiva either. You will be excited because episode number sixty eight is enjoy the view. Oh Nice or we might need a different name for that right. What is it Robin? Akiva Review Review Review the view. Yeah I heard the new view review the new view view up for that. So we're going to talk about what's happening on the current view we're going to we're going to have a view draft are we gonna are all time teams. Are we gonNA do a mount the more build the all time team now. Maybe it's like an all star. Should we be every wanted a team of then we'll go from two thousand five to twenty fifteen. Yeah the joke when Shumar Take view questions. Yeah if you have any questions but the view we have to pick a day. Maybe we'll post Like the day we're watching and listeners. With their takes to are we. We need some of the send us like the view from that day. Also so you know how to do that if you can. DVR DVR the view and send it to us. Let us know. We can't just watch it or like. Oh I guess we could. Yeah I don't know like I don't know your TV set up right now or or anything okay are we view stands are are we ops with the talk and what's what's the other one The the soup. No not the soup Easter now. You can't show yes okay. Here's chance old but but then there's there's some there's another one too I mean we'll see I don't know for few stands. I haven't watched the view in probably forever. Okay all right okay. So I was in a college class once. Actually it wasn't the view I was thinking was the view as in a college class. One Senate kid raises hands like I was watching Regis Justin Kelly and and you know and then he went on to finish the question. The teachers like did you say you're watching Regis and Kelly and was making fun of him But yeah so I have no if you experience. I don't think thing I've ever seen a full episode of the view. Yeah I definitely seen parts of it. I don't think I've ever sat and watched an episode so now I'm excited. Maybe it's really good. Maybe the best show on television. Yeah it's like peak. TV right now you think so. I mean we'll find out I don't know I mean I feel like that in some ways. It's it's kind of like a podcast. It's just like you know they start the show. They they have an audience and they're like hey like hey everybody and they talk about like what's happening today and they had talked to guests. I mean I'm always. I'm truthful surprised especially in such a political climate that there aren't like thirty popular podcasts. Where it's like a Democrat Republican? Just yelling at each other the whole episode. Because that's that's appears to be what the view is now and it gets them a lot of buzz. You'd think that that would work for a podcast that well. I think that people like to listen to people that they agree with and they don't listen to too many people that I don't agree with and they they would find that frustrating. I I true but if you're rooting on the person who you agree with and you're just sort of laughing at the pre. I bet that would work with the right people. I bet that would be a hip podcast. We'll do you can you can yell at a TV show though. Have you ever yelled at a podcast like in agreement or in anger with someone shore. Yeah anytime somebody is like. If you're listening in you know something. The hose doesn't I'm always like Oh you guys forgot you know Mitch written or something. Yeah so I guess what you're looking for is like the like I take or like Stu and Shannon or what is it Shannon and who who's who's the other guy that used to be stay skip skip and Shannon you want people like be fighting about sports fights but about politics. I would not listen but I do think it would. I would like I would like if I had a network work I would put one of those shows up and I think it would do. Well yeah all right well I don't know what else to say about this idea. Yeah to put it on half of the tournament Bra Ideas Rob would hate and Akiva. My one be wanted to okay all right frail Mary. Well what's next for you are you moving No no all impact you know. Get back to playing video games. got a bunch of Christmas and haven't played in a long time. What's your go-to video game right now? Well I just got the new pokemon for the switch so I gotta do that okay. Which I've heard is is fun but easy so hopefully that doesn't take too long but I'm a big a big completion EST to you know if I'm playing games like click on? Everything talked to every person. Read every. Sign that kind of thing. Yeah who do you think with like Pokemon more Mir Kiva would like. Oh you have to leave your house for Pokemon go right. This is not a go. I'm just playing pokemon okay. I don't know there's tokens. Yeah oh I don't think I would like it. I don't think I keep it with like pokemon either. Well how does he. He'd be too scared of the monsters cannot scary there like You know it'd be like one. Looks like a cow and one. Looks like a fork doc. I don't know they're adorable. He gets make them fight yeah. It's very very questionable. MORALS AND LOGIC IN POK POK Mon amongst the Pokemon but you also capture them in sort of make them do your bidding so hard to tell you know if if they're completely sentient and on their own or if they're just happy to to fight your battles for you. I Dunno Akiva the anything here in terms of US learning about pokemon. Now I just for some reason. I've never been interested in Pokemon. Why yeah what about? I think I think a few years as younger. We know what about what Mary. What about? yu-gi-oh Yukio anything right yu-gi-oh another one of those. Do you watch trade might be. Ah Get you AKIVA now. I don't even know what it is. Yeah I I wanted to watch. The kids watched it without me. I don't think my kids know what pokemon are. Yeah yeah now my kids know about it. They know they know what's up with the kids. Collect anything legos goes. Goes like yeah dolls. Especially when they're younger L. O. L. Dolls. I don't know those. Are there era. Like I don't know dolls like small dollars. I don't know a brawl stars. Those are like these cards my my my son has those yeah. I don't know what they are I don't know it's like I don't know what I mean what you collect. When you'RE A kid? Rock collected sports cards. Yeah different trading cards. I wouldn't say that I had enough of Anything to be a collector. You never did like Eh. I always always trying to find something that I could collect in every place. I visited the squished pennies and stuff. Because it's the cheapest thing that you get pretty much anywhere satellite collecting mugs or shot glasses or something Yeah why collects something that has real value when you can waste money. Yeah and in squish penny crushing money into other shapes. Yeah yeah well see also I. I will say when I started the collection. I was under the impression that it was going to cost me a penny each time. uh-huh two or three quarters. Yeah also that's that's how they get you and how they get you really nice little scrapbooks. you guys. Should you come out with like a rob has a podcast squished penny. Oh okay but we need like that big machines that grind them up. Yeah there's there's probably a company do that for you all right well. We can look into that Mary before we let you go today. Could you just. Can you just tease us with some of the ideas for the fan fiction Russian. Yeah so I will say that the the the music video episode is essential catalyst. Oh Boy For some things. It's it's very there's there's some elements that are self referential. So if you're if you're into the inside joke we'll have those is but but nothing. That's you know that a new listener would not be able to hopefully enjoy you think. New Listeners are going to check out the are fan fiction. Look maybe maybe there's someone who's he's like. I don't know this Robin Akiva Guy are but I just want to hear the defend fan fiction. So what's going to happen in the fan fiction podcast if it let's let's let's write the fan fiction. PODCAST happens and so you're going to got here. Yes it is that the fan fiction is going to be written. And it's IT'S GONNA be probably haven't listened to it yet but a similar format ish to the A sleepover where it's Kinda thing that's already recorded in. You're listening to okay. Hey great you are going to record the story like you'll you'll read it and then we listen to it. And then we were reacting to it not me but other they narrate actor. They'll be like even rub. Well relevant participants who god Um Yeah. So that's the context for this rub. Yeah I am I can tell you that they'll tell you that it's you know it's an adventure where you've got. You've got a a goal well and and you know things hilarity ensues okay. Can we get a twenty twenty guarantee on the friends on the Fan Fiction Pie. Don't put her dope. Oh Man I. It's the top of my to do list. I'm I'm no longer taking the third or something. Spend time with your family one now families overrated yet. Just trust me if you if you surveyed Vaden family members right now they they are tired of hearing me progress about my procrastinating of this. They want me to get it done. Your family knows about this. My family doesn't even know about this. podcast yeah well my My My my dad in particular keeps telling me that I that I need to write about it. That's how I turned out I you. You know draft of it was that he he wouldn't let me Hang out with him until I until I gonNA fly. Why is your dad so invested? I think he's just you know he's he's he's a much better person than I am. He's much more committed to his when he gets committed to doing something he becomes the best at it like juggling as your is your her mom ever listened to this podcast now. My my mush. You know it exists. Yeah I mean. I don't think my mom knows this particular. PODCAST exists I. My mom does is regularly watch or listen to the survivor. Know it all I think we'll she'll dabble in exit interviews but I. I don't think that she goes. Is that far down the Rha pea around Hall Rapid Weight Frail. Mary Fan Fiction and then maybe we will lure Roseanne Sister Nino Mary have you considered. Maybe getting some pencils that laugh at you when you put them back down on the desk. uh-huh yeah that's what I really need to do the mock you yeah. That's very impressive that your dad is that invested did in what you do that would not gonNA listen to it. I mean he doesn't listen to any of my podcast. We'll do. Yeah Yeah Okay all right. Well Mary thank you for all of your hard work working on these questions and then also taking time out of moving again and again to join US rob a big shot at the Julia who came up with this idea and I believe wrote most of the most of the questions Julia and writes a thank you yes Who wrote the final jeopardy question? was that Mary or Julia Yeah that no. That was almost me. Oklahoma's I I. I'm trying to think of something I don't know what what the sixth graders or into nowadays. What's the did you know that she has read Harry Potter Mary? I did know that. I know that I had downsides just to be clear fair you know the you need a very minimal amount of Harry Potter knowledge to answer that question so and in trying to write guess if the red all seven bucks okay. Yes all righty all right. Follow at frail. Mary listened to all of her for PODCASTS and What else Mary? What else are you up to a premature that I'm releasing my survivor? All Stars podcast right right now. So you on Matt Right Yeah Right. Yeah yeah which is. That's that's a little fun. Deep into one of the most hated seasons of survivor Akiva. Do you know that frail. Mary is a huge Boston. Rob Stan I had no idea idea I really did not know. Yeah and I hated Boston. Rob Because He you know he voted you out. I was mad at him. Yeah well he wasn't alone. Why listen I hated his wife? And and who's the third person voted Lisa and big time and to haul big. Tom And ed was five to one. Yeah okay it's everybody. Oh Man Yeah. I've gotten over it but I was at the time. What are you GONNA do? I I mean you were like you. Were like a methanogens fan rooting for the Boston Guy. Yeah from your son. You guys are Yankees fans what sorry just makes it. Yeah no update on the forty cake right. I keep getting in question. It's funny my wife. Who could care less about anything? I do the podcast. Related said like a few times. We like by the way. Tell your listeners. Like the like the birthday party keeps getting pushed off by the teacher because it has to be on a Friday schools and different kids at its scheduled already so the forty cake is coming when when his birthday is going to end up taking place like six weeks ask. The party is going to be six weeks after his birthday. It looks like okay all right so of course AKIVA is podcasting about the NFL and much more on the thirty. Two fans. Dan podcast with bonus episodes going on as well right now. Akiva any other plugs for the thirty two fans podcasts. No we're working on The Best of the nineties on the Patriot episode people like this week. I did not show up and Dr Jesters wife refused to come on air because she was watching ninety day on the bachelor so chester record an episode himself which was great for me because I left there. What was the? I can't believe it's just chester episode. What was it I mean it was? He was picking which which song should be ours songs of the nineties tournament. so He's playing with. That was a podcast. Yeah it was actually good. I enjoy enjoy listening to it. I it was the first time I've ever listen to one to thirty two fans like Casey Kasem by himself. It was well edited. He had some good lines. I think I'll send it to you if you want. It was pretty good Mary. What should the song of the nineties be the song of the nineties? Yeah yeah this decade. Yeah Old Town road this year. Maybe I know the problem with picking looking. That's what Chester Chester Song. That came out in ninety nine. That was a single in two thousand. I couldn't be the song of the nineties. I probably changes for demographic bullying when you look at what was the most notable song of this. I don't know what is it like Friday. The most are gone them style. Oh that's better or probably like the two biggest songs Bingham Style d'esposito probably up to okay. All right Great stuff thanks everybody for listening. We'll be back next time with episode number sixty eight where we'll be talking about the view here on Robin Akiva need a podcast Then in back arching arch. Let me tell you this might seem but trust me episode your section believe me. It's your own protection. We see things that should not taffy and be like the Roswell crapshoot to the black students. Does that the man in I saw in your.

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92 - WHITNEY MOORE is in the OFFICE!

The Valleycast

1:22:58 hr | 1 year ago

92 - WHITNEY MOORE is in the OFFICE!

"It wasn't a crime and the wasn't funny group of people who share the views while giving us the new blessed us with after every Single Day valley folks is the same for the time saying what you wanted is episode ninety one to ninety two and we've never had to repeat if we have it happened once we have we've had a talking about it's like we had to catch him for rain out get coins in his pocket and he spoke lean limericks what if there truly was a lever Khan and I was the only one that saw and I missed my opportunity to be rich forever I mean I think that you're doing a pretty good job anymore is our guest today on the Valley Cast Winnie more I'm in love with you forever Platonic Okay Grant I I don't know if which which party was from remember cutting class the Scottish man he's the only person going over my island and I know he was the live like making money Ryan his name is Ryan Ryan the Leprechaun Orion Ryan there's more people named Ryan and there are any other name voice. Pr Guy I submit one of course I would love that Whitney plan on my all my God guys oh perfectly perfect linked is built in such an amazing way it brought me back to like crazy town like come my lady I can't remember if it's Scotland or Ireland there was a guy there was a guy in our friend group I feel the same way we're going to be buried in the same grade as we will like four other people here my dad live it's going to be a mass grave we play an intro that a youth that users submit which by the way please continue to do so thank you valley folk Ready Dot com slash are slash the valley folk this that was like Irish no never he was like a shorter guy and he smoked ally Leprechaun granted wishes all the time plans together and we'll all get a friend plot yeah yeah if someone gets cancelled or is an asshole they get kicked out of the plot is the ultimate burn to be with alternate burn is cremation you guys let's talk what ultimate burn is a a really good a really good joke about you after you're dead his fingers left because in order to get a wish granted from a Leprechaun you have to cut off one of his fingers is that true I said that that poor guy that we love I know honestly I do you have your death plans at all actually a topic hold on I was GonNa say talks broke the rules and went You broke your personal rules that nobody else fall my personal because I don't listen to this well no we yeah it's a good time Ryan Patrick McAfee Oh he's not short well at least you know Moore who I love very much who recently got married I just watched the wedding video and there's so many great slow motion Steve Moments there's a lot of Nice I birdsong about this shirt that I'm wearing you guys can't see it if you're listening but if you're watching I am wearing a pretty ragged What color would you call this they need fingers he's got his how do I hold my goal grinded too many wishes I don't know the navy green meal cranium it's like a sad sad sad green gray Jean Grey yes that's what I think of that's really good Steve and I had to do a really bad I did a really bad Irish accent today when I was recording song because I have a Irishmen joke in it very magical leopard you're GonNa Make Cole Ryan Ryan O.? Rien Ryan Ryan did it all right all right yeah he's got the video I think you re tweeted of of the Irish that or what is it maybe he was Scottish sure that pans gave me the shirt and I'm like well I guess I got a new shirt but this shirt was intended for Colin Farrell so I haven't that's why you're calling it fairly Michael Okay well now we're on now we know now I know at the very least it could be a Leprechaun Whitney and I both see and nobody else it's so is that a designer shirt I don't it was like yes I forget what it was nice in the way that designer shirts are meant to but yeah so I just wrote that he has assured exactly like that Oh this is literally supposed to be Colin Farrell Shirt from two thousand eight and I still have he's going to kill you that's like what is that sells anyways I got this shirt from when I in two thousand eight in Park City when I was working with brats bread and Irish what am I coming from an ever I lose my Irish accent I just think of a constable Tata At-at high water you on our Lottie I see again and asking for which is expensive I need money I mean you look them up on the Internet so other people obviously we you know this about you have to make sure he has track every time when we might have not played one once or twice on a special all that good or some of them sitting in their own way you're all L. oil beef hooked what say well oil beef quayle wail oil I want to do the whole thing but I'll play a preview of the beginning of what will do we're gonNA shoot a music video for the song where's the cat that's the class ah that honest insensitive Riley's insensitive to make fun of over making fun of welcome to the Whitney so that's all you get right now they're real lonely island thank you it's a very a thing that was already the holes there because this is a shirt from two thousand Oh God you could have told me that that's exactly what it looked like when you rockets anything like say not really panicked like give them the shirt it's from my new company a really want him to wear wait why yeah and I was like already then I don't know if it's a mnemonic device or if there's a different word for it that teaches you how to get into an Irish accent and you say wait straight up inside out so I I went to Darren Gertner House today about this or that I'm going to shoot a video for argue about I didn't know that he was Irish but I guess is right it's Irish or Scottish or something yeah I see him sometimes by the trader Joe's by my house motorcyles got it and that would have made sense meant to be inside out sorry one more question it's inside I mean or it looks inside out because it's one of the tag it's Oh was bring into us by Jimmy White thank you for bringing us off Jimi Jimi Jimi why we all loved it and this cemented like five hours we were doing a thing for in Bruges in some Guy Saws Interviewing Colin Farrell McCarthy This is the Colin Farrell sure yeah and they you're you're working with Colin Farrell in Bruges in before it's GonNa be fun I gotta get a marching band video did we really want to get a marching band yeah did you heard that wow do you remember the I would love I am in love with this video this is very shirt on my back on average kid back say it louder for the people in the as you say rise rise up lights rise obliges oblige declined from soundboard over here all right you go ooh is not the thing you were telling me about before love those fucking no no Oh see we're having fun yeah no there's that one wrong version of the one that's like uh Joe but he's fifty three years speaking with you guys welcome to the valley cast that interest come come my lady it's it's gross of summer that's exactly what lan end up comedian friend of mine named Tony cline he had a bit in his standup that he told me where anytime you say a dinosaur's name if you say it makes it really easy to speak for US Erica where's the cash there's another one it's I see oh beer can beer cans I I am am a big big he's Lisa Shit of I'll say that I am the big piece of share yeah that's the old mantra and I love that you can say American words that suddenly sound like yeah Risa Blah something completely the penguin because she loves that movie about it loves that movie you know how like we love like we love really bad movies right like like Lee Different tweet at us those examples that you guys might now there's so far I only know to do you know any other ones ha no Tony cline Tony Client thank you Tony Client very funny anyway pebble and the penguin was fucking unwatchable garbage really bad bad bad like I def- hooked whale oil booked we'll oil will be folk to visit Brontosaurus you just reminded me Stephen I walked back recently movies nuts can I say though a lawn and I tried to watch pebble in I am not mincing words it is the worst piece of shit worse than we're back we're back as weird not great but it's not bad it's just a little of the route I started watching more yeah there you go that's the that's the cover Tim Curry it's like that cover of which will put up I guess in the video podcast the cover of that is like the third multiplicity version of happy feet Pablo the penguin it either I I remember I have a vision of like the video cuts Martin Short is like a penguin he's like Irish unsettling the whole fucking time and their head shapes are so gross in ugliness just like yeah this guy looks like he looks like a Bulbous Penis Oh God braque's source lawful Soros critics woke me Bricusse in society Brontosaurus but do it Russian Brown to slow down very good very hopeful right we're back at least is like like beautiful looking you know it's the jam it's very very presents it is Spielberg for yeah what was that one again tell me that one wail oil be looked well the oil beef hooked hooked will oil be actually here here shit like irl but here's the deal Tim Curry as the bad guy and it's like I thought at least Tim Curry is GonNa make this watchable right the death plans so they this is starting to become a thing it's like natural plots of of cemeteries where they don't bury you in a casket they just rob you open like linens I know let me go get my friend veloce go Mcginn some beer can that one of them we got a friend a comedian is the closest to another one I've ever heard a stone anyway I don't want to get into that but so we start watching pebble and the penguin and the sword it's no worse tickle Bill uh-huh and cold as the clay I wanna be in a box yeah no neither do I don't WanNa be minion by I don't want no spiders all up and herbs and like Pagan Shit and they make your corpse smell nice with fragrance oils and then you just put you in the ground you can give back to the world you're gonNA grow dude it's like the worst in fact I'm GonNa pull up clips and can while you do that I'm going to say how I want to be buried and you're talking about knbr canned beer can like you're saying Bacon Jamaica Jamaican cat number friend we had a with my ex my ex father-in-law's ashes in our home for like way too long and it was really weird I got bored astor Wayne in a box yeah I like the idea of just like getting tossed in there you know why don't we play like I'm so happy you already have your plot you have your shift did and then there's just like sketches in the middle of it where it's like unfinished and it changed perspective on the penguins worse than that I don't know yeah I was ratchet up in linens and like like flowers and throw in there and then hot technology here's the thing damn he's got a big old vic the penguins are two humanoid and it's not cute and it's good look at him telling me that doesn't look like it doesn't look like a flock of penguins that I want to kick it looks like a Dick and I don't remember whatever it's some penguin in have your ashes scattered anywhere I haven't decided yet like I don't want anybody to hang onto it I think that's weird and gross I hung onto them shit will it then you're going to you're going to your your burn yes absolutely unbear- Vernon absolutely burner for you do you want to the down in the Jackson and Hayden to watch the black cauldron with me speaking of Don were they bored out of their fucking it's not it's figured out no I have not bought a plot they're still him but you have your wishes are what to be cremated now well sorry I was idea I don't WanNa get too far away from my wishes because if I never get to say them at least there will be a record of them here we go I ah this is Tim Curry no that guy looks like that is like John Jim Belushi is this buff one yes he's hurries Ashton yeah but see that's like your Pat I took them out and they're like I was expecting them to be like flower chunky bone really liked the idea of being buried with like a tree like the the seed of try like that too or like next to a tree or something yeah I don't WanNa be I wanna be I guess I I always like at home in your code loan gear big oboe love junkie bone percents dom blue more than a spielberg jam but not even a whole he like did some of the design on handed off to another studio at Spielberg uh-huh uh-huh Chunky boom yeah but gray bones in a grave and I found one this year that someone had written it was dear Wayne if you could please let us go to lake let go of their let go of their stuff and it's like people posting pictures of their loved ones that they lost it's very sad and wonderful snow why you cataloged every movie you've ever seen and every book you've ever read and and made them on a chart I wanNA meet part of nature I guess I love that idea I think it's like if my body has to be waste what about just stuck inside a hollowed out tree so it'll grow around yeah turn onto a tree that's cool I like friend forest the friend forest I have to say at burning man this year they have this thing called the temple which is basically it corresponds with the numbers one to twenty eight on a chessboard police let us know wall somebody died with a mystery maybe it's an Ar g solvent mystery. That's what I want maybe maybe so is your a headstone or something I don't know that's kind of a waste eared it is really what it sounds like a hack job that's my own my favorite Campbell's chunky bones bones husband parochial Soros they ashes in mind to my mold clean dewey onto so I loved it was the funniest thing ever anyway are you gonNa tell me honey I wasn't ashes we're everywhere I like the lake taxidermied into a tree with my eyes open this is ideal honestly one thing no country will let you mayor a tree where my head is gonna Rub your nose in a week no I think I do like the idea of being being buried somewhere that promotes some sort of natural eh. I think I'M GONNA probably donate my corpse to science yeah that's a good one like when you when they need medical professionals and stuff when they're learning they need like my my husband's my bad Irish my dinosaur loving your friends would participate in that is an honor to do Whitney do you're saying in the Whitney Yeah Yeah Yeah something that would promote your matches finding these face just curious work on actual cadavers and stuff and it's maybe you're gonNA you're GonNa help teach the next you guys should have my ass on US yeah you can't have it so well she's not the rest of your body put your ass on Steve's tree would you like to do in death like what a waste of earth I mean this is just wasn't as bad for other people but like I just I don't I don't think I feel comfortable with that especially with how much I said how many of us it is to be cremated and put into Mali pills for taking your the Whitney look like in Spain or something cashing and it's just another grave Gotcha or it just takes I believe it's the best thing ever say that all the fucking tiny Alan I to I got to tell you something funny a Lotta said last night that killed me I was so alone baby boy you cold cold get yourself a mobile growth I like there's a part of me that is starting to I don't know what I want or think but I there's a part of me that's like I got no business owning a plot of land to materialize and things too but it would be fun to have a gravestone that starts an ar gee you know I want if I can't be just like a says something on it has coordinates so now I don't think so it's it was just like I'll try to do an impression of it it was just like it was tim curry really phoning it in so he'd be like the like the Martin goes probably pretty quick I guess so because that's pretty flashy and there's no bones in it you're probably the falls inner falls off pretty quick like maybe he was sick or something I don't know it was a direct to video movie no it wasn't theaters Damn R I P ASA Steve's face in Whitney's limbs of all of our friend Dick where's the rest of Whitney fern gully shit the forest don believes Konta forest of faces everyone can have their face short character would be like oh I need this pepple I'm going to give it to my girl and then Tim Curry would come over and go at least one time in the movie theater where you laughed harder than you've ever laughed lake at anything nor the Whitney there's the rat race happening I'm GonNa die in which is what we really want to talk about eventual honestly I think the whole every one of you speaking of movies I wanted to talk a little bit about and then I would love to hear your guises thoughts on what do you remember and for your dog and when we get to you we're gonNA grab that GIG Goo I'm calling Magoo arrest wrapped in linen wrapped in linen yeah you might have to just go steal famous dick from a grave that's more like I'm all really fucking lost it in a movie theater the last time I laughed so hard in a theater was midsummer re that's fucking like the moment they set it up the moment where she goes on new this isn't a spoiler even the moment that that she is going on the that's why it's jokes and Shit I mean he's that type of director his early stuff he's just he's not afraid to be weird but he's also not afraid to go terrifying was a romp con if if that's meant to be funny then it's crazy they make you like flicking terrified and shock was fucking crazy dying like it's not meant to be funny though no it is sure yeah I think that midsummer is not a straight up to ace Ventura pet detective to and like my twelfth birthday or something like that with a bunch of friends I remember laughing our asses off then especially when he comes out of the Rhino the N. Yeah because the pelvis there where the penises is a hollow little cave pretty much down the Penis Beatles might get to it I one of the Penis Beatles are a law yeah vague here let me adjust oh yeah man can go die now that it's been roasted to fucking incinerations killed a man river it's GonNa get eaten by the do you think about that cultural impact it's like I mean it's not the funny people quote them but that is just seeped into it's just there at culture that it's just there losing their shit at anchorman and that was one of those like the theater is laughing I don't know I don't remember if I was but it's like when the theater is laughing going to get there that's a really good tim curry thank you and that was it like that and he would do that like it was we're GonNa get you do get gonna get that Google did you find the clips they wanted to show your sh long there's just like yeah okay I can walk out of the room so you can man no no no but I was so unexpectedly funny and like they they really made certain moments was it why heart in particular it did hereditary though yeah I think that it's because he doesn't have any levity in at all the good that's funny I'm fine he's on the Internet doing month forever also dude don't don't be afraid to be yourself and do your shit don't want anybody stopping up with them and their reactions to that like that is a comedy be there's so many there's so many jokes in that yeah but then there's like so many insanely serious things I thought we like Tom Hanks's day when he's gone we'll just throw on the dick yeah which is a part of the body the eyeballs are the first to go when do you think the A he's having a like I assume like a talent show or something like a drama classement drought dressed up and he's the joker and awesome creative liberties overlapping at or with this we're laughing and guess what I've been so much in my life you really like legitimately dye link or some of the scenes why have you seen any yeah I don't WanNa spoil it because you don't spoil it yeah that that's true that was when that happened it was amazing it was like it was it was next level and then I remember the theater really just like ah the quotes aren't like annoying they're not like oh God there it's not like when you go yeah baby that's annoying the thing to do this like community moment of the humans coming together and adding something that movie all the fucking insane Amazon yeah come to my mind to respond to your question s off the top of my head are When yeah the movies like Digital Tim Curry Oh no no no I just said that he is still around our MP The pebble and the Penguin that movie excited for you to see it I think yeah definitely see soon it's a good it's a good Halloween movie I think that everybody's going to be dressed as the Queen I I saw one you yeah that's how you grow as a joker another moment that comes to my mind is not funny movie but well it is a lot of funny stuff in it wolf on Wall Street appeal thoughts and talk with melts you say it's the whole G. Three plus team then the having a blast back together again eh back hold up hold up no what does that Oh this guy the the Beatles that have the drive on and we've been lucky when Leonardo DiCaprio falls out of the car and this finding up the stairs and it was just this unexpected moment of physical comedy that I've yet to see matched in most movies he's really funny really really Fi- I loved a. also Tim Hi Decker in well all right that's it like I'm already I just lost did a drinking game for the movie yeah that's so cool I love that thank you I won't be honest it was like definitely born of necessity because I fucking hated that age do that age I was doing the most embarrassing shit yeah you will ever see oh you know I'm editing my councilman Electra Fan films you know Michael Richards used to be like crazy like his movies he does like crazy physical stung even though he's a piece of Shit I guess anyway I've never seen it should I see it all you have to just showed a lawn like maybe like three months ago all do you drink McCarthy's I guess he was pretty physical and she's funny physically I think Tim Heidegger is one of these they must be up there but I miss like it's okay when people do people try to do our and it turns out bad it's okay to laugh Oh dude you if you've found shit of me as a kid making career decisions that I'm not happy with drinking later I've never seen the star of a cult movie be like hey I invent your coping mechanism like imagine one of the guys from the room was like we came up with a drinking game for the room people go nuts it'd be like fuck we need that drinking bring the drinking game made to get through what the fuck you drinking game we yeah when we went onto the only way that I could stomach watching it over a studio publishing company Mash up on had braces woman and first time ever crossed the universe crossover over with and being with the dude that directed it who is like the worst piece of shit in the world was like bought beer and hand them out in the theaters? A you are truly a trailblazer because that's like I've never heard of anybody doing that thank because really liking I've never heard of any tricky fat Joe Look at this kid turn his back he's living his life opened in the back we'll know they're like they're untaken downloadable because they're just they're weird like they're always in all caps and row written in Lake testing movie had pictures like it's one guy and he lives at his mom's house like I know still I assume I haven't been keeping up on to be honest but trailblazer baby yeah that's amazing yeah there's so much I mean I was in Britain like that's the thing that you can laugh at dude you're right now the director never failed to make a joke about how I'm legal every day Emma for being like a cult hit or whatever yeah I've aimed drinking game oh that's so cool tweet at me sometimes with their own rules that they've made tip sell it I wanNA play the drinking game but I'm not a drinker the soda pop up Apple Cider vinegar like how do you have a little slips of paper that had a drinking game that I made that'd be people know about this like the like the like people who who love birds it was my first movie I am a little less harsha myself I don't like to watch things like I don't watch maybe you shouldn't say this an eight I believe so outrageously Outta high school freshly eighteen in la now this was shot in the bay area and I'm like Oh boy sounds like this like I'm that I have made in La introduced me this NFL and also like reinforced. How much I love colts cinema and it's how movies we were yeah I knew exactly the type of person he probably was just based on that stupid joke I still have all of his emails on my email account and I wanna make release them down so I'm a baby given come into your own fucked up like it's so gross it is about this oh I was eighteen I had just turned eighteen and weird fragmented sentences and signed by departments that didn't exist and like she's just like an actual crazy to make it seem more legit yeah sincerely yeah I've got all those emails I really wanted to like maybe write some stories about Do you absolutely hate the movie the movie it's brought me every pretty much every close friend you you are definitely in the laughed at because of her Davick yeah all the time also in my life yeah same I would like I'd love to watch per Democ with you I've never watched it with you okay what was the last time you saw I think like two or three years ago Jesse had never seen it and so funny do you like watching are you okay with watching it because I think it's no it doesn't it doesn't like like we're gonNA I was GONNA say trigger which is like an we'd instead get very high Win The old chop off an arm and cremated bring some Whitney to the party excited to have you on source fed and so much has happened yeah I like booked parts from it so much has happened from it I can't hate it and as a movie it's I think it's so I just don't like watching myself and stuff virus to watch it within a room full of people like that's where I feel weird I don't like me appropriate word in this circumstance but I still feel now weird because it doesn't it doesn't trigger me in any way watch the DC show that I do I don't really watch the movies that I'm in now or any of my acting bats healthy we'll plus when you're hosting things you're already doing it you're they're doing it why would you watch reading teleprompter tongue about calm the so I don't know but I I feel like watching it maybe when I was like nineteen Akiva Akiva was like the sweetest person on the planet and just like would was talking to us he's like all night we're out was fucking killed me Borat fucking scene when he's like wrestling hit that hotel room and his just like it's truly it's very it's very bad I would assume I would assume the weird part of it now and this is my maybe I'm projecting upon you apologize for here's a napkin project at all windsor screening of it and I mean it's not actually the only brag thing about it was that they were there the lonely island has were there actually Jesse now we're at Bonnaroo for muddle sucks and lonely island headlined and I was like on the visuals visual yeah yeah so we got really drunk and we watched it and I am a full-on baby in it which is like didn't really this this was two thousand so when you're at a concert and you're in the visuals is so much cooler than that's me when you're in a movie in the movie theater I feel like disclose all of actually the person who gave me these is the one that directed it Wa- yeah I was in a cattleman versus a little bit of a the movie holds up super holds great team America's fucking so the work that went into team America and like how they hated their lives because they were doing south park at the same damn yeah especially if it's one of those moments really me right there yeah it was cool didn't have peaked popstar was fucking funny as fuck but the also it's great I think it holds up there's probably questionable stuff but it's still really funny future Oscar winner Yeah Yeah Um because I've gotten to a point where it's like it's all over baby through our through the trauma and also it's like the have you seen that Ryan laughed kind of fringy one I feel it in my chest listen I didn't say which movies I laughed at Yeah I don't think she did either I was the only one which one midsummer midsummer is there any others that were off my ass off at something about Mary and I got I wore I still haven't seen something about Mary because I wasn't allowed to see it I would consider still shouldn't see it or at no it's great no no no no something about Mary I think it still counts the fi the hardest I've ever laughed at a movie I think ever is pop star and Owen went to like an infant naked but isn't it when he does it why got high waisted Thong Innis the line and the joke and then in the first one I like we're a couple of different outfits and I interact with them and very high watching and I was like I grabbed the person asked me what is this art and they were hanging out with everybody and it was a very intimate thing and it was really cool I get to meet all of them and not your is it your Momma your mom wasn't a Marionette and the puppet heads would break all the time in the eyes would just start freaking I wish they would have kept some of that stuff in there would have been really funny dude hairy asshole is out and I didn't know you could make movies like that yeah he was he could do that I didn't see this in the theater but want money and create a contest that would take them all over the world right to like get how much money it was like two and a half million Erica when when he's vomiting in the alley and it just doesn't stop and it's like it's the fucking it still gets me every fucking really wouldn't work like I can't remember where I saw this but there was a story about how lake because it would cut to when it would cut to close ups of the puppets it would be a separate like puppet head that time and the movie was like impossible to May because it's just like those puppets were such pain and all those sets yeah they their stories about how Louis Racer they're flying to the place in New Mexico and the airline is going topsy turvy and then a guy puke news like dude I remember loving that move yeah it's so crazy and smash mouth is the end of the end up at a smashmouth cons well what about rat race we were talking and then and the scene where John Levinson his whole family comes out like the Hitler car or something Oh it was just like hell working movie because they're just like they were asking them to do impossible shit with marionettes and it's just like I've been like things comedies that really back in the day comedy is Anchorman I think there's other ones that I'm not thinking of Atkinson is a treasure yeah yeah if you guys seen the like old old old school Mr Bean yeah dude that shit's like model dollars and then it would just cut back and forth to the rich people like monitoring them on their race or whatever because there just video or whatever and let us know but if you've never seen the original Mr Bean TV show stuff you have to check it out you have to look just seek it out earn Chaplin Yeah Yeah he's got a rubber face it's like it's real I you know I feel like he's he's being he's disappearing into the Zeitgeist a little bit the one where they get this sex worker to come to the home and the boring assistant is like I want to sit in a tub filled with shave my butt and he was like how much would that cost them they're doing like prices right does he started talking story old man tries to shoot him like I watch movie recently what is the car I lost my shit and Borat the hardest I've ever laughed at a movie theater ever was born it was Borat and then and then close second was in team uh of their minds they're doing bets within beds right so like every time it checks in on the rich people there's one where they're like they fly to the goes I really think I don't know where you can find Mr Bean you guys should look it up and maybe it's on some streaming service on either tweeted us or go in the comments of the maybe it's on Youtube I dunno look look for some of those bits there's one where talk about physical comedy let him there's one where he like he goes to church at least Mr Bean around again a really sad about and he's got like a candy like really wants to eat during church and it's like he's waiting for all the quiet he's wait he wants it but it makes really like and star wars and muppets and only nostalgic about my own life though so this was an excellent gift that I got from a friend recently this is every mix CD I ever made him why have had a bit of a crush reminders she is holding about well this is to me that you sing in church or whatever and so he's looking around he doesn't know what so he pulls up the book and he's like looking at it and they're like and he's like we need more in meaning there wow I love that I'm like a I'm like a horrifically nostalgic person too often to my own detriment said fourteen I believe this dude you're a bad ass I forgot I was expecting like dumb shit on these mixes was your on the joker comes back around I would love to watch it with you so maybe we should figure out a time for he's so fine I'll bring supposed to shoot the bad guys dot dot dot and it's because when he was in film school he made a Batman Fan film in which I played cat woman and the Juanita discs they're two things are going on here because not only does it seem like you had a little bit of a crash he might have had a little bit of a crush because he kept them all so his thing who had this guy this guy betting going back to things that you didn't know they were betting they're just doing what the thing and then you get wiped out and then they get in a car accident and they crash into Woodward's to rally and he hits his tongue on the burner any her age is so ironic because the whole thing is like these super rich people got together and we're like let's just fuck with people the craziest I just love them you brought stuff let's talk about what you've brought us shows tallies she brought some Z. tells his everybody Hitler death such a good movie I revisited it I think it's free on Amazon prime a little bit of a romance happening at least in my mind and so that was the name of the first mix tape now this one oh gosh this no the first mix tape is tailed one now very close toasted lemons volume quattro in Roman numerals but will also quattro as a translation there's some there's some God smack there's some look up tone first of all this disc is a napster disc John cleese in there so we never been dude thing is actually like documenting and recording things he's the one that directed the cat will this first. CD is called Batmans. Wow this might which I appreciate well I might be music toasted lemons volume for are you ready for this prince oh I'm like dude I'm in love great job no but this is great are you ready for this this is toasted lemons quattro a track listing. Yeah well there's a there's an artist list okay great I'm very even better Walk five this is just a cartridge upson CD that's mine clearers did one more and it's really good I forgot the proclaiming luck yeah it's not that one song it's a different one is it older Don Webb she's done or is it I would the napster fully embrace that you're stealing music and also give you discs to further steal though incubus and even make them easterby them okay ready for decade over a decade worth of me having various crushes him being the main one and going back to the music that I felt was important to disturb you're the only person over and done with volume one Bowel House Bob I'm in love with Jesus here bring it back around false prophets so chilling says he tells you she's GonNa show you what she brought she's GonNa tell you what she got Jones town the show Jones he tells these feature ring like Houla bad in it but also I'm like yeah it was the first everybody it really great because I'm I'm currently writing something that's about limerick ends and about like having crushes and this is it's a it's a early two thousands rock band and the guy is in jail for trying to rape a baby oh I remember that involvement eleven volume quattro also has regions machine the Ramones Sun and Saturn five savvy visiting these which is this one has speech bubbles on it and says hey this is a pretty random mix yeah but at least it's got the Samba song on it l. into a lake I don't know sixteen seventeen track mixed views like the perfect slice of time but then oh boy I discovered MP three sometimes There were a lot of a lot of the time I was just like listening to Asong lots of reminds me of like second semester of senior year of high school we're at the bottom and it's called toasted lemons and there's four volumes of it I like to get toasted lemons how old were you when you made that person artists list for because I listen to this on the way here Batmans not supposed to kill the bad guy and I made this in senior of high school and the tells me he would year year he was a freshman I was truly think is is two thousand this thousand and four two thousand or you're a freshman in high school okay here we go I was truly thinking it was going to be like Britney Spears and fuck I mean not that there's anything wrong with that but I was thinking system of a down on there too spooky time it's really fun sort of like simple punk music about monsters and imposter syndrome or in my case grew up thinking that you're really cool and talented and then have to reckon with the fact that you are not as special as your parents this gives this is like a good example of how my mix tapes jumped around I thought that I was like high fidelity with my mix tapes precisely Oh my God I wanted to ask like one of those volumes like what was what was there a significance between with each song so and myself fall into one of two categories either like you're very cool and talented but grew up thinking that you were not and still have up your alley Steve Bastards we made a short we made a Zombie movie but this one I actually wrote down the in the fucking how did you bow house I was cool L. Lugosi is that the track Ah yeah actually broke my house CD when I was in high school and we got into a fist raps going to say that's a physical a physical response CD's in my world change do you look at these and see sorry Joe no go ahead you look at these and you see a time capsule of certain feelings in the relationship movie about maybe being a teenager whatever you should use like these the opening credits stuff because you're real seasons into this track list heels Ted Leo and the pharmacists do you remember them probably don't exist anymore and then Moonlight Sonata this is I get cooler with music and so shit just as a as a segue real quick a little little split is I'm coming to find that in my friends about like nerdy shit and still got away Brag year story about that what's your way oh I'm in the I'm in the Netflix special and where are you aw that's the cranberry songs on me probably he went he went to no I think it's a a band called the groovy goalies which is a great birds I like hearing that in my ear was a great part of laycock there was an art you gotta like second one you gotta calm down but not too much yeah come on movie ruined my life for so long recent as when I moved to La nine years ago I and then I think that was your first la summer right there wow yeah memory wonderful little turns out with abandoned called the eels and then there's a lot of maybe how's that for a second I'm really good at doing the The Todd Weird Thomas Along Yeah God damn right it's beautiful it's great one two that's oh dude the birdsong also very 'cause I like they also a great deal song a great word of revisiting these is because there's so many bands that probably aren't around anymore that I found like via myspace Mo and then Frank Sinatra and then children of bottom metal bands and then path mudbound and then queen and then fall out boy and streetlight manifesto Optima do you remember them yeah I remember all streets and then motion city soundtrack's who is like really all over the board the line is that there's a lot of emotion alcohol out boy oh it was where is your boy tonight I am Haman Russians are you ready for these we'll go rapid fire how long was your relationship with this person romantic relationship will how long was the relationship in which you were giving them we we'll take I reject your sentiment you are very talented set thank you of course so this is this is Batmans supposed to kill the bad guys the time I was like fourteen to twenty four so or maybe maybe a little less than that there's no because he also catalogued all of the US Oh ultra force marina rhyme gray ati teamwork still around that's a great that's a great sleepy when you make a move oh you weren't man courage you parents poison in your head kids they're going to they're going to be knocked down a couple of pets it was like I have to be cooler more calculated like better bands I just thought it was too and then I saw it and I was like Oh Shit Banda anybody I was like I only know them for is the czar resume on re I need somebody and all ways okay white straight where are you being die was my wave and so you guys never dated now we had a lot of flirtation I used to sneak out with them all the time he's the by you snuck out the cat woman outfit to the proclaim that one for for for if you're curious we kissed one that reminded me they're both really really good at physical comedy it's been awhile since we had a real funny physical comedic we've got our Melissa he was the Crow Crow I have so many stories about would show but my house in the middle of the night I tell the story a lot 'cause we were neighbors and so I texted him in the middle of almond versus electric mini dvd tapes and has organized guy. He's the guy that just like you all your CDs back except for the one titled This is just me Orgasm ing for an hour in this perceived romantic about twenty CDs long over twenty CDs long ten years you know like you don't know how often did he get them this was Ooh that's what I was arguing and I got a one after honestly I would've gone behind this I found out that I was way cooler than him okay deeper questions deeper the night knows like meet me by the school and because we went by school and I dress up like cattleman and I hit a tree and I was like and it's so fucking hot and he was like where are you an I jumped out of the tree and I did the Super Heroine like hailstones Alexander waiting for loud loud cry crinkly as fast as began and then he like everyone's singing the prayer songs I guess he doesn't realize I'm capsule and you just got back yeah he gave them to me at my wedding wedding president next week yeah really are you gonna give give him a bath or use the bed some that you asshole older little older yeah four years old he was at that age end too big a gap do you ever hear this band Foxy Sham think those after we kissed ones maybe not equals mooncake his book for he went off to college and then he got a girlfriend whose very I mean he wasn't GonNa wait had failure on it which was failure failure fantastic planet failure not an old school ban Nineties Band Ken Andrews Effort into it John I'm about to reject your next statement on your love and creativity into for sure us but the guy it's like a lot of different instruments that are like carnival sounding it's like more girls different we're not that far in age of apart from one another but your experience with mix tapes is so much different than my I made mix tapes on tapes I had my boombox and and was like a mice ban that I found and I want to send you this you can listen to it because it is a very specific type it's like hardcore again spits into the Mike and goes like say but it's very specific like early two thousands rand it was a it was a time where it's like we're we're figuring out what our own music tastes are but then we're also being influenced by our parents and with this is also the time of CD compilation commercials Comedy kind of Guy Lake all of the things about like like kitten murder like just like very invader Zim show I also really like to do if I can do collaborative playlists so I do that with friends sometimes I would love to hear what you got going on Blake real specific capsule of time cooking listening to your experience with mixed tapes are I'm just realizing we're not that on television that's where I learned about a lot of music they'd play like the five seconds of Clipping Blake that sounds like a cool song yeah I had friends parents that actually got like I would get CDs or at other people's stuff or record off the radio and have to wind it find the perfect spot press play on the CD player in sometimes connecting to radios to do it towns butterfly. This is a song that I would put on on mix tapes like I I I I didn't make very many mix tapes but the ones that I did would have it's not Saturday savior it's the other ones are all things that are going over my but then I also have come baby come by K seven to be getting a mix CD from someone because I used to get a lot of my music from mixes from friends that were never track listed and I never had any way of finding out so I have so many what like the rap song goes comb baby baby baby come comb oh Kelly not quite like that but yet like the smiths annoying go bowling go and like Morrissey and tears for fears and things like that and depeche mode but there was this band called called the cardiac and they're like this fucking insane God I mean it's just it's insane I wanNA share this with both of you guys but it doesn't really matter okay so he go guys this is you guys GonNa hear this insanity this is cardiac in the song's called tarred and feathered hot girl I think it's a tattoo stand yeah she's got a tongue ring I think it's thinking about the the Labia I think the the reader's digest like massive collections eightieths down which one is like a by Joe's mix tape one I know it had love hurts by Nazareth on it like amazing musicians just grabbed fucking bad ass loud screeching guitars and make mazing symphonic metal songs the people on spotify I love he wanted me and mixed metal stuff that you're talking about I would love to I would love to make you any mixed it Mike and I have the same spot a running joke where all of the Algorithm recommendations are the I'm trying to think of like is when I was making them the giants the video metaphors I've

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Bonus: Man, I Feel Like A Woman, Revisited

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Man i feel like a woman back in the early months of the pandemic. we ran a series of live update interviews with some of the most memorable people who've appeared on the show over the years. These events took place on our members only facebook community. Which if you haven't yet done. So i really hope you'll join in any event. Many many israel story fans tuned into these live interviews in got to ask their questions directly. But since we are a podcast after all we also wanted to share some highlights of these updates with olive. You our listeners. So today we're going to play the original story followed by an edited and shortened version of the update event. We held if you've never heard this story or haven't heard it in years. We hope you listen and enjoy and if you wanna skip straight to the update just go to the last fifteen minutes or so of this episode okay. Without further ado years man feel like a woman. The last time we had people over already feeling separate from each other we were feeling disconnected. More and more. It really was catching up with me. I i was headed towards a nervous breakdown. Basically but the last time we had company over a friend of ours who was just becoming involved in torah judaism and a whole group of them were coming to israel and they wanted to. She wanted to give them a very special friday night so who she going to bring them to. Yaakov and hobbies in the jewish quarter. Because that's where they'll get the perfect epiphany. I was off the whole night. Something was not right the whole night. That's smith she's sixty four years old and actually my neighbor in flow in jerusalem. I pass by your house three times a day when i take my dog. Nomi out for a walk anyway. East co was born in long island as jeff jeff smith. The smiths were a traditional conservative. Big see jewish family. The dad owned local plumbing supply store and the mom was a dedicated homemaker. They have three kids two girls and jeff in our story today. We'll hear how jeff became yakov. And then jeff again and then jessica and finally ska but this isn't just a story or isn't only a story about gender transition. It's really much more about a dilemma. One that doesn't have an easy solution. you know as we've been working on this episode over the past few months. I've thought a lot about a good friend of mine. Let's call him akiva. Akiva has been married a long time nearly twenty years. He and his wife have three kids. They got married when they were really young. Just out of the army. Basically which means like twenty one or twenty two and when they got married akiva was religious and right-wing in israeli politics so as his bride flat and that was sort of the premise or foundation of their marriage. They joined a community of other religious right-wingers in the west bank and sent their kids to religious right wing schools. The only problem was that over time. Akiva began to change. Actually today i would say. He's one of the most secular left-wing people. I know but i'm one of the only people who knows that you see a kiva feels that he made a commitment to a flat to be a certain kind of person to give her a certain kind of life and even though he no longer fits the part. He feels that he has to continue. Acting out this jared. Because of that promise he made her the being true to his own. Identity is to the unity of his family and community. Honestly i've never really understood this position. It seems very sad and painful but on today's show with usca story we'll look at the other alternative which seems just as painful and hard at least in some ways anyway. Let's go back to that friday night. In nineteen ninety in jerusalem's old city. Usca then still yakov met a group of guests at the western wall and then lead them home for friday night meal. I remember walking up on hold hockey nor which goes uphill. I remember working up at almost stopping. I had like twenty people behind me instead. God i can't do this anymore. This is you've gotta help me. I'm begging you. I'm begging you. It was probably one of my most real prayers in my life. I begged guy to please rescue me from this. When everyone was leaving everyone was saying everyone usually would say when they left. Oh what a beautiful family would have beautiful chabad. What delicious food and each time. I would get these compliments. It would be like another dagger another dagger another dagger and this one man came up to me one of this woman's relatives and he said can i talk to you from an alone. I thought he was going to really lay it on like oh. You've just changed my life. Because i used to get that so we went to another part of the of the house was more private and he said i'm going to tell you something and i have please hear me. Please hear me. That was an amazing act performed for us tonight. Take care of yourself whatever's wrong take care of you. I told my prior wife exactly what he said. I said it's over this. God answered my prayer. I slept that night for the first time. Like i hadn't slept in years we first heard about ucla wild back from reporter molly livingstone. Who then spent many many hours interviewing her. I asked malaita step into the studio with me. Hey molly hi msci hiding and get so so molly can you. Can you set the scene for us like where. Where were you. Recording in niece goes home right right. We are in use his home in Which is part of jerusalem. It's kind of a hippie area. Her house it's small it's And it's kind of what i expected from her. She's a very inviting person and our home was very warm and friendly. Describe a little bit. Like what is look like he. S sca is tall. The first thing. I notice about her every time i see her is when she talks you. She looks you in the is. She dresses conservative. But kind of bohemian. She gets her nails done and she uses her hands a lot when she speaks. So that i definitely remember. She has a different hairstyle. Every time i see her she's trying to play it up. Play down she's she's seeing how she looks in different ways and how she feels right so let's begin Molly where where do we start. So we'll see the story in the us. When yiska was still jeff. My whole growing up was was a nightmare. It was like being on a How you hear about some of these ratios and you hear that the they've been running for like ten years and till you realize that they changed the cast every couple of years you wonder how could someone go out on stage night after night after night for ten years. That's what i did. Every morning. When i woke up and i went out into the world i was on stage. So is very difficult very very difficult. I thought i was the only person suffering from this. I really believe that they would have me committed for bean crazy. I have a memory. It was christmas vacation. I had to have been right around. Sixteen and one of the guy yells out to me. Jeff why do you have to walk. Like a girl. And i looked at him and of course i was crushed crushed because it was not meant to say maybe you should transition or maybe a transgender or maybe are you suffering from gender identity disorder. Can i be support friend for you. I mean he used it against me was making fun of me. I just said to myself what isn't even mean that i'm working like a girl didn't even i didn't even know what that meant in my head. I said hello. Tell me something. I don't know then. Journal conflict continued and his life kept moving forward. She finished school matty young lady and got married. The newlyweds gradually shifted into an observant jewish lifestyle. They were part of cod. And then they moved to israel. Jeff became yaacov yaacov in kava. Basically did what religious married couples are expected to do. I don't really want to discuss the private private parts of allies. Look we put it into the world six children so you can share your own conclusion. You know i felt a lot of pressure. I felt a lot of societal pressure. And without her meaning i two. I felt pressure from hard. That i behave like a straight guy. Otherwise i'm gonna lose her. And i didn't wanna lose it because i really loved her and also became very successful in in my programming in the old city so that also made it harder to keep up this image more and more with all that pressure something had to give and that brings us back to that shebab dinner. We opened with when a guest recognized yaacov spain and expressed his concern in a way that for years ago was assigned from above told my prior wife. Exactly what he said. I said it's over. This guide answered my prayer. And when you ended your marriage it was under the pretense that you were gay. Are you gay. No ramada lesbian. I'm a heterosexual woman. So you went from one lie to the next. I went from a hundred percent. Lie to fifty percent knew for sure. I'm not gay but i also knew that is a woman i was attracted to men. There's no way. I would have dated a woman after my divorce i hurt. Her enough wasn't going to hurt another woman. Was she angry with you. Your wife angry angry describes it. He gave one hundred percent of herself. Didn't compromise i owed loving devoted wife. Mother let me. She was furious more though she felt betrayed on abandoned yaacov actually continued to live at home with the family but when a model couple suddenly gets divorced in a small community like jerusalem's old city people get curious and it wasn't long before word got out about the fifty percent lie. The story that yakov was gay soon. The news reached one of the jewish quarter. Smith's respected rabbis and he called me personally. He was the type of person who never called anyone a personally. He had a battery of secretaries. That would call people up and when people would go to him to ask his advice. You'd wait two hours online. And he called me up personally and said i need to talk with you. You need to come to my office and such and such a time. I knew this was not good. I show up and no line knock on the door and he insists the door in shows me. He couldn't he didn't even look at me. I remember he did not look me and he brought me into his study and i started. This is down. He said don't bother sitting. This is going to take just a few seconds. He said someone is despicable discuss the issue. I don't want sitting on furniture. He said it's been brought to my attention that you commit that perverted disgusting behavior of he said i can't even say the word of being with other men and you teach men you teach young men. He said as of this moment. If you continue i will make sure your children publicly humiliated i i. I didn't even hear the second part. I said i just went through a divorce. This is my only means of to give their mother child support. He said i'm going to beat myself because on one really make sure you understand what i'm saying. I really don't care about how she gets her money to feed these kids. You are not to teach men anymore and if you do. Your children will be humiliated in public. I said wait a minute. Did i just hear right. Are you threatening me. My children's being said. Yeah now you got it. I started to cry. And i just walked out. And that's when. I took the keep off. Said nope i can't do this anymore. Not when it comes to children's well-being my whole life is crumbling. Your whole life just fell apart so usca packed up and moved to tel aviv. A city which is much more secular engaged friendly and most importantly far away from her previous community but it was also much farther from her kids. It devastated them. I don't know if they've ever recovered from it. I've got to tell you. I always loved being with my children. The highlight of my week was when they would come to tel aviv. And i got to make dinner for them. And we camped out. Because i had a little studio but i i made deals with their mom that i wouldn't reveal everything i didn't tell them i was behaving as a gay man. I didn't use that. Language store keep piling. They came so you did this with the kids for how long this once a week for about eight months. And what made that stop. I couldn't i couldn't live in tel-aviv. As a single non-observant gay man to it was so shattered. Had nothing to hold onto your skin left israel a move back to the. Us leaving six children with their mother. Another devastating decision really hard a few years later one of the kids who was then serving in the army came to visit. He was religious and yaacov. Who's now jeff again was not. It was christmas time and the son slept on the living room couch right next to the christmas tree sleeping in his dad's bedroom was the current catholic boyfriend. Then that's when they started coming out especially to the older kids an of course it hurt not because that was coming out as gay. But because i knew i was lying to them and children. And how did they handle it. You know it's like one of them set to me years after that. They said every time we saw you we felt we were gonna get hit again. Notes like one macaw to the next mica like it never ended and there were still more changes to come for jeff. Living as a gay man still didn't feel authentic are is never a man. I was in the male body. I was always a woman it was just about like. I was in someone else's body i didn't realize there was a term called transgender. Tillis forty one. It was the early nineties and jeff was living in new york city. I'm reading about this woman. Who at that point was ten years older than me. I guess she's still ten years older than me. And she had undergone what was called gender transition. She was born transgender. Lived on the upper east side as a man married. Once a children completed college education. She decided she had to come out to her wife and children and begin a transition. I'm reading this. I'm reading this. And i'm thinking she's just like made. This is like my story. only. I didn't know that this could happen. So then i'm thinking well personally there besides me. There's gotta be at least another one or another five or another one hundred. And that led me to research even before the internet's but for the next couple of years i started reading articles and the words transgender transsexual sexual reassignment surgery transition started becoming in the forefront of my mind. It was like someone gave me the key for me to unlock the prison door. That i was held captive in my whole life will be right back. You look tired. I take the caffeine toothpaste and adrenaline face. Serum aren't working. Well maybe you should ask santa for a nectar mattress this year. Old guy brings you another unicorn finger. Puppet don't worry because mattresses start at four hundred ninety nine dollars and she gets three hundred ninety nine dollars in accessories thrown in as well as at three hundred and sixty five night home trial and forever warranty go to nick. Sleep dot com today. If you're enjoying this episode of israel's story you'll also want to check out another podcast coming out of israel dasa on-call new frontiers in medicine is an interview show. That goes behind the scenes at hadas world renowned hospital. You'll meet healthcare superstars such as the team that performed the first surgery assisted by two robots. The corneal specialist who reverse total blindness and many others subscribed to haddassah on. Call it haddassah dot org or wherever you get your podcasts in now back to our update episode. What made you really call the doctor to make that switch. I just woke up on my fiftieth birthday. And i felt so lonely on that day. None of my children acknowledged that it was my birthday. My siblings did not. No one in my family did accept my mother. may she rest in peace. I felt very lonely and malone and i said to myself and then i guess i was talking to god. I can't do this anymore. I couldn't pretend that i'm straight male. So why am i pretending that. I'm a game male. I feel i'm living once again. Someone else's life. I knew i knew what i had to do. So when i made the appointment the first question they ask you is. Have you begun your real life experience yet. You have to actually live in the world as a woman before the surgery for a year and only you know when you begin and only you know if cheat a compromise like they don't have a beeper. It's not like your house arrest and they trace you. They have better things to do your life but they want to be able to do this. So that's when. I started really dressing as a woman. I remember the first day that i said today. At september nineteenth two thousand and four. I was travelling to visit some friends in san francisco. That was probably wearing like tighter fitting top probably wearing a bra. Although there was not much to really keep up so i met the airport. And i'm thinking you know. I'm going to san francisco and i am ready and i'm going to do this so i'm going to use the ladies room for the first time in my life and i was so nervous. Walk in and was in on my gosh. This is so normal. This totally feels normal. The tension in a men's bathroom. You have no idea. I mean no one talks to each other. No one looks at each other. they're all uptight. They don't want anyone to their gay. No one would say oh. I really like your shoes when a man says what are you doing the ladies room. They don't get it. It's a whole culture. And i just took to it like oh my gosh. I'm home instead of me. Being nervous i felt like i could breathe like these people get me and then i went for speech therapy and speech therapist told me i have to give you the reality check right from the get go. She said you'll never talk like a woman but you'll talk more like a woman. It takes incredible. I mean i was with her for like two years and she taught me a lot about how to emit a female energy rather than speaking like a woman. Now i'm very peace with my voice. But i wasn't and that for many older transgender women is a really big and for at one time it was now i mean now i don't know i literally don't care after this whole process you were living as a woman. So when did you start dating as a woman. I started dating as a woman. I wanted to wait till after my surgery I had read some terrible tragic tragic stories of transgender women who showed themselves as women to the world but had for various assortment of reasons had not yet or chose not to undergo the surgery and and they dated men. There were some instances when the men found out it ended very very violently sometimes actually death. I said i'll wait. I'll wait till i'm complete. And then i just have to discuss my history. But i don't have to discuss present so i waited all the medical procedures. Were behind her. She moved to a new city to start a new life. I was living in seattle and publishing my life for the first time as a woman as jessica and i went on i put a profile on some of the dating sites and being insecure with my own transition. That that time i didn't write anything about my having transitions was one mess. After the next each one blew up in my face once they found out about me. When did they find out. But the last time that i dated like this this man we went out to some place for drinks and we were sitting and talking and he said you're such a beautiful woman. And i find you very intriguing. Seem he complimented me. And then i guess my hands were just on the table like this and he standard my hands now. That's another catch. All because transgender women tend to have larger. Hands is whole tone changed. Is there anything. I should know about you. I said well this is our first date. I guess there's a lot to you should. Is there anything. I should know about you. Like i turned to right on him. Like what kind of like we. Dick euless question. If you want to know if i'm transgender. Just ask me. So i said are you referring to something in my present on my past so i could give you the right answer because you're after something here. He's little more back to past. So i said yeah. I was born transgender. He said you know. I don't think i could date someone like you just imagining that. You're a man one time and he was quick very quick. So you don i'm not gay. I'm straight. I saw hope you straight. That's why i would go for a drink with you. you know. i'm not a lesbian. Like i kept. Bring him back to you. Initially saw in me was a woman's. Why would i think you're gay. And then he said you know you're nice but the this is just a little bit too much for me just thinking your past. I said you know it's actually a little bit too much from me is what do you mean i said if my past is a reason why you don't want to continue seen me. Your present is the reason. I don't wanna continue seeing you. I'm living in the now. I'm not living in the past. I went home at night and change my profile. I've put it right out. There said this. Is ron look like this is my past. I said one sentence is gender. Transition fully transitioned woman inside and out. The next day. I received an email the site. This is what this man said to me any woman that is beautiful as you and has gone through what you've gone through a woman. I wanna take effort. Drink a couple of nights later. We went out for a drink and he said you really went to gender transition. I said yes. He said you know. I've been married a few times. I have children been divorced like all of us a little bit older. I've been around the block a few times. I feel like i'm with like a woman who's just always been born. A woman born a woman that turned into tier relationship and we got to know many of each of the members of the of our families. We lived together. But at the same time i started to really go further and further into judaism and he's not jewish but he would come with me. Came with me to different shibat meals. He got to know all my jewish friends and he said to me one time something. I remember this one night. He said you know. I'm not looking to get remarried. I see no reason for me to remarry at this stage in my life. I have my children. I have my step children. You have your children and living in an age where neither of us are are religious. He said that i was becoming more with the just. If i were in the market to be married right now i would ask you to marry me. You have made me feel more like the man that i need to feel like than my wife's in the past he said there's just something about your feminity and i said to him you know you've completed my transition. You have made me feel like the woman. I always believed. I feel he was so we thought in a part of us we were going to live happily ever after. But i knew it wasn't going to be happily ever after i wanted to come back to israel. Wanted to be more observant dhavan so hard to husham and they said helped me with dan he so kind and he just can't just break up with him. He never liked seattle. He was texas boy and he couldn't wait to someday. Move back to texas and i knew that and there was no way i was going to texas within. That's for sure. One day. Dan who's working at boeing. Pick just up from work. He told her he had some disappointing news for her. So you're kay he said. Yeah i'm okay. Something came up at work today. And i know this is going to probably upset you. But they want to transfer me to an upper management like executive position in texas. And i would love for you to come with me. But i know you don't want to come to texas if anything you're gonna land up in israel. I said you're moving. You'll leaving seattle and you're going to move to texas. I said barrage and he already knew what borussia meant he said. Are you happy you know. I said no. It's not that unhappy that you're just moving to texas. But i'm happy that god is helping us partways with dignity and love. We both know you want to go back to texas. So this is a dream come true for you and i don't want to spend the rest of my life in seattle and texas. Not even on my list. I want to go back to you. We shall i am so. It's time that we do that. And he said you are a woman that i will love the rest of my life and i said you're a man that all of the rest of my life so if i could find a dan who's jewish and lives in israel enough votes. I'm here i am. You know. I'm not looking to someone to be like dan. That's not what i mean. Dan is dan. Whoever reuven shinola will be reuven shinola when he came back to israel. How did people treat you normal. Just regular this. What i wanted my whole life just to be regular being in israel as an out transgender woman who never has tate's for a second to say that it's been so much easier than i ever could have imagined going to the should going to the dry cleaners getting on a bus and again things like that just like regular everyday living in jerusalem levin we shall i am as a middle aged woman going about her business because there was nothing extraordinary about it. That's what was extraordinary about it. In israel jessica changed her name. It all started to feel as she says kind of normal but for some people in our life. The whole transition thing wasn't so simple to accept her parents for example i it's shattered them. It was a shock it was. They were not prepared. There was nothing to set them up for this where they could say. Well you know we kind of wondered so at first. It was very difficult for my mom who i was always very very close with. She passed away only four months ago. I didn't expect her all my father to say. Oh great and continue on your authentic living charity or you know we're right here for you know her first response to me was we've been with you through everything but this is too much for us and i said i understand so for the first six months was really you know it was very hard for her to speak with me and we always spoke several times a week but she pulled back when she needed time. She needed her time after. My whole gender transition was complete. Eventually she she said. I'd like to see you now i really do. It's been over a year. We haven't seen each other which was a long time and she said but you father does not want to see you. He's not ready to see you. He needs more time. I said fine. Everyone needs their time so with a lot of anxiety. Yiska flew down to florida and drove over to her parents house. So my mom came out as i pulled up. I got out of the car. She walked to me. We could both feel that it was weird because it's the first time she saw me as yes scott and we hugged and then we started to cry and she looked at me and these were her words. She said you do not have to explain anything. I see something in you. That i never saw before peace so while in my mind. This is very difficult that now. My son is like my daughter. And you've gone from just yakub to jeff to now like that's a lot of names for one mother she said but in my heart of hearts i really get it and then she looked at me and she said jessica. I don't like you outfit. Let's go shopping. And it was great because she would pick out a few alfred she liked. I pick out of who. Albert's i like them. We go back into the dressing room. She would try on for me. I try on for her. And i was in bliss and then eventually little by little. My father came around. Eventually i was able to sleep over. He would go away and maybe sleep at my sister's or he'd come back late and then one day he was ready to leave and i was cooking something in other phrase. The way to a man's heart is through his stomach. Well it worked. Yes my mom. Would you cooking smells really good. She said unlike cooking anything. Jessica wants to make dinner. Me he said is a to lay from me to stay so that broke the ice. Now that your mom passed away. Do you still see him as frequent. What's happened is to my amazing surprise. Is that my father has had more conversations with me now than the sum total of what i can remember in the past fifty years. I mean he's devastated. Were married sixty five and a half years. They still loved each other a lot and yet when i talked to him he opens up. I can never did before But yes gusts children and this for hers. The saddest part of the whole story have a harder time making sense of her choices mitchell. June don't talk to me anymore. None of them through the six talk with me a little five years ago. Yiska began writing a book a memoir detailing her journey. I didn't ask their permission. But i told them before. It goes to the publisher. Once it's finished edited. I will send you a transcript and you can read it and then you can tell me if inadvertently i said something about any of you out. It'll come out. No questions asked and i they were okay about it and then when it came down to it they don't care about it and they begged me not to publish it and they said you did keep. Your word is nothing about us senate. That's done then. What's the problem. Basically what it came down to is. They don't want people knowing who i am relative to them. I said that's where i draw the line. That's what we need work on it. That's the problem than me not publishing. The book is not going to solve that problem. The book really cut it for most of them. One of them said to me used to be so angry here so peaceful in so jen tolan so actually so nice to be with now but in my heart i lost my father. I think i'd rather have a father who is angry. So i'm first and foremost to them on their father and they feel portrayed. I'd i've done everything i can to protect them but i don't believe they have to be protected from me and that ultimately is believe what they want it to be protected from still yiska hasn't totally given up on the hope that our children will come back into our life every friday night when i liked my cotton wrote but i light eight lights one for me one for their mother and one for each of them. I say a special prayer that my children will once again. Be in my life would there. Would there mates with their spouse spouses spouse spice and my grandchildren who i don't know i don't know my grandchildren. They could be walking radar. I pray. I don't know what else i can do. The pain that i endured. When i was living as a man nothing could be more painful than that because it was never-ending didn't matter what i did never went away it was always there. I'm at a place. Now that people need to hear making a choice to live in. Authentic life is not like oh than the rest of my life will be all nice and smiles. My life is filled with a lot of smiles. Now they're real smiles but they're not only smalls real. Living is wrong. That was the episode. We aired back in two thousand fifteen five years later in twenty twenty we hosted these coffer fascinating update conversation on our members only facebook community as i said at the top of the show. Invite each and every one of you to join our group. Just go to facebook and search for israel story community. It's easy it's free. Of course any ill immediately become part of a vibrant group of israel story fans. You'll also be able to watch or rewatch the entire conversation. We had with e. ska. It's about forty minutes long. But for those of you who prefer to listen. Here's a much shorter. An edited version of that chat. Okay hi everyone. Welcome to a another israel story facebook live event. This time with my dear dear friend to one of the most inspiring women. I have had the honor to meet Through this show a woman who is a rabbi podcast and author public speaker but more than anything. Really a teacher usca smith. Hi scott shalom shalom me. She high consomme off You will all remember iskoe's amazing tale that we told in a one of our early israel's story episodes and what many of you probably don't know is the back story of what happened the day of the release of that episode and that was a moment that i think taught me more than any other moment working on the show about human spirit generosity and what happened was that we released the episode. I think eight in the morning and The episode was forty minutes long and literally forty two or forty three minutes after we released it. We heard from any scott to to our horror and deep sadness was very upset and east asia Believed that we should misrepresented the story in where whereas in her mind was a story of triumph and resilience. The focus at the end of the story on her children made it sound like a tragedy and she was very upset and we were very upset that she was very upset. Of course you know. This was only our ninth episode. It seems like a lifetime ago but We had never encountered such a situation and we didn't know what to do and i asked for a favor which i had no idea whether she would accept or not. I said he's scott please. Can you just sit with this for twenty four hours. And let's talk tomorrow morning and see how you're feeling and how you're doing and my and sort of deep hope. Was that in those twenty four hours. East co was going to hear from a lot of listeners. Who would infact share. How inspiring they felt. The story was and i no idea how this was going to go. And it's not often that people reverse what they think in life especially when it comes to things that really matter to them and twenty four hours later east said that she had spent the entire day. Yes these guys continuing. I remember telling you that. By sitting and meditating and contemplating as you asked me to do. I realized that in fact the privilege the space of living in with antic life is not always filled with celebrations. A real authentic life has a vibrancy to its tapestry of in ranging the emotional gamut of the human expression and for the first time i felt that i was called upon now through this israel story to talk more about that that living an authentic life is is not linear. There's lots of contradictions. But they're all based in the commitment to wanting to be honest and they thank you for pushing me into my own into my own red sea. Because i was able to see that which was concealed and that is that i needed to start speaking more about the beauty and the complexity of living true life. He's so that's a perfect segue to my first question. So what are some of the downsides of living life. Authentically some of the downsides will. It's it fall out when one no longer empowers either societal values or peer pressure or community expectations in how one goes about making decisions about one's life. The consequence could be rejection and nobody wants to be rejected. We were created to be social beings. It even says them berry sheets. That god said it's not good for a person to be alone so whether it's an intimate partner with it's a close friend an expanded family a community we seek connection. We seek approval. We seek respect. We seek love. And because i built up a life responding very proficiently and effectively to others expected me to live a really was afraid to honor. What i felt was being called upon from within from the divine within me so this rejection and this disapproval and there's a sense of abandonment a sense of betrayal. Were there moments in in which you thought that the price of living or authentic life was just too high that you should just sort of resign yourself to your to your situation at i. Yes i was afraid. I was afraid to jump in. I really was afraid to jump in. I didn't imagine. I couldn't have imagined because it was yet the to unknown future with the fallout would be and they no longer felt. I could live in that fear and there was some serious fallout but then there was some wonderful surprises. And that's part of living moving into the unknown future. We don't pinch hurwitz. I call it a transition not just a gender really was much more than that. It was a transition into living. Clean clear life of transparency vulnerability of truth as i moved further and further into that. I realized all whatever prices being estimate. I'll pay because because i need to. I need to be right with my creator. That's where it all began. So he's i have a question which also touches a little bit about living in authentic life and that is your story has been an inspiration to so many people and you've told it in many different contexts to students to to podcast listeners. To filmgoers and i know from my own life that stories that i tell again and again lose a certain degree of freshness and authenticity. And it's difficult for me to actually to feel them. It's almost like i'm i'm just sort of reciting a script. How do you maintain sort of the fresh inauthentic feeling of telling your story. That's such a good question because at about six months ago. I made a decision. That was that. I no longer going to really tell my story. I was becoming tired. Not target of my life. God forbid but tired of telling about what more and more was my history as i moved further and further into my present that takes more and more of a backseat. Would i do teach spiritual tax. If i feel that piece of my pass can better inform the text. I will do that as an example to bring the text more to the relevancy to audience. But now living in the space that i transitioned to be in i feel now. I don't have this obstacle in front of me. I feel the whole world is out there for me to lower to share to teach to lead to guide also to learn more to research more as a scholar of spiritual texan. I'm loving it. And i'm really coming into my fullness in that sense so he's kayak I know a lot of listeners. Know and please share whatever you feel comfortable sharing. Do you now have a relationship with any of your children. Yes i'm excited. I didn't even wait the british. The question which is not really the way one should be actively listening. Yes and i feel so so grateful. And so celebratory that i have with three three of my children in one way or another A much healthier warmer connection with one in particular We speak almost every day. She lives here in in israel. you know. she has a big family. And i'm integrated inter family with my grandchildren. It is absolutely beyond beyond what i ever imagined and also my siblings two sisters. We've completely reconciled in the past year. We are closer now than we've ever been and it just brings my family and it gives my father who's still alive me live and be well. It gives them such happiness and even set to me on my last visit. I know your mother in heaven is so happy now to see the three of you so close together again so and their close with you know with my my children. I'm getting close to some of my nieces and nephews i. it's just blossoming more and more. Yes it was gradual. A lot of tears a lot of prayers. A lot of leading goes a lot of difficult questions. Yeah yeah but have happened some of the others still not there yet but all my children are very close with each other so they all know and who knows. I have a lot of hope Thank you. That's that's so beautiful and i'm sure now. Many of the listeners will have their own first hand experience of learning from you and loving you in the way that i do. You've really made a big big difference in my life. And i think about you often and love you. Very much michigan michigan tada. Can i say one more thing in conclusion. Of course thank you. i just wanted to leave the audience. You know education. We learn that people. Remember i what they heard last. So if you're going to remember anything. I'd like you all to remember this that whatever price i had to. Hey the lead up to my transition moving through my transition to where i am now. It was all worth it to live a life of truth to be right with our creator. There's no price too high to pay for that. 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The Action Guys - The 5 Action Comedies You Must See Before You Die

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The Action Guys - The 5 Action Comedies You Must See Before You Die

"The following program is brought to you by your friends at podcast one. Don't forget to download our new podcast one out. What's going on? Welcome back to the show. I'm Ben Bateman. And I'm Andrew guy, and we are the action guys. So today, very special topic on the action guys drew, and I went to see a film the other night. It was an action comedy. Did. I laughed quite a bit in the theater. It was not an action comedy. However, the film was mortal engines, and it was atrociously bad in my in my mind. Let's have a quick story. Listen, we show up little did. We know there was going to be finger food free wine. It was lovely. They have quite the spread. We got primed and ready to enjoy the film had about three glasses started by three. Anyway. We're watching my myself. We're watching the film and about halfway through Andrew bisque, basically berating the film loudly in the theater as everyone else was. But I think what happened was the guy in front of me kind of sparked the fire. He like he was really going in. And he he didn't I I was at least trying to like whisper talk a little bit. So Andrew's going off and finally, bro. It's it's a press screening. Gimme a break. And he was like, okay. By twenty minutes later, the entire theater was laughing. It was no longer Andrew or enter the guy in front of it was the whole theater by the end of the movie, I almost had to apologize for reprimanding him because it was so bad. I texted him afterwards because we were talking about how bad it was. And I was like you reprimanded me. And I stand by your like. You're like I stand by reprimanding, you there's no reason. And he's totally right. But it was aggressively bad movie, it was an aggressively bad movie, and I have never laughed as much a theater unintentionally. Now on the flip side of things, it looked awesome. Like, the visuals were really cool big thanks to studio seventy-one for throwing this and inviting us like I'm always going to be happy to screen movie. And and give it my best. 'cause like I wanted to like that movie. It just so happened that just I hated every character all their relationships. It really missed and even the gentleman who was running it his name is escaping me. At the moment. He knew on the way like we had non the laugh and all that. But yes, you're completely correct. In reprimanding me. And it was it was just I just couldn't help myself. I could so guys today's episode has a little something to do with genre. We like to call action comedies now that they have been unintentional action comedy. But today we are going to be talking about the five action comedies. You must watch before you die. And why? It's the action guys. We'll be back in one second. All right. So I get it your. Yeah. These movies were supposed to laugh during this is a lovely list. This isn't a okay, so first and foremost action comedies. We love we adore, but they're hard to make. Now, we've been watching our whole lives with like what the naked gun loaded weapon. Hotshots? Yeah. Those are full spoof. Like, those are straight up like slapstick spoof movies. And then also other ones we grew up watching. I think the Jonah has really sort of blossomed. But like even like take a movie like Grosse Pointe blank. It's kind of a good example where it's like kind of an action comedy kind of black comedy like Shanghai, noon and Shanghai knights. Yep. I loved those. I'm sure loved rush hour rush. Rush hour is classic action 'cause bad boys. These are all movies that have come out that kind of shaped this list that we have they sort of toed the line. And so I think the reason that we decided to bring this up today with long winded intro about mortal engines, is that we love this genre. But it is John Rowe that fits squarely into the sort of mid level of movie that studios don't really wanna make any more. There's there's a gap now movies that cost somewhere between six and seventy million dollars that if there's not some built in p it's based on an extremely successful. A young adult Donald series or intellectual property. Don't know. I don't know. She doesn't mean that true. That's. I wish that didn't. But like they don't studios I wanna take a chance on spending forty four million dollars now on a movie if it's just like, this is a funny script with two good actors and hope it makes money they wanna back something based on a book. They wanna back a superhero movie, they want animated. They want something with an expanded universe. And that's what studios do now. Yeah. It's so sad. Because it's like there are a lot of these movies only one of made over two hundred million dollars. And it was showing which one it was not that shocking because at the time that it came out at made so much sense. We even kind of guests that but really what it is is to kind of piggyback on what you're talking about. Is that no one wants to just make a movie 'cause it's a good movie anymore. Yeah. They need to make money off of it. Very very rarely do you get the ones that are just like I'm gonna make a good movie, and it's going to be received. Well, the kademi is gonna pay attention to it. It's gonna make a lot of money, right? Like, I don't think moonlight made much money. You know, when it was originally released only Oscar pushed that really in the Oscar push came out, you know, but it's there's movies like that where they still or like, for instance, Hidden Figures is a movie that you have been telling me to watch for years now. And I. On the plane. I love that movie. It was so great. And it was kind of like it isn't action comedy. Exactly that's the number one on our list. No. But that was a movie that felt like a, wow, this is this is just a really well made movie. That's well written and acted. It's not over the top. It's not spectacle. But it was completely overlooked forgotten. And I think just on a tangent for second one movie one of the I mean that would be ended up making money. But the reason it made money is the same reason moonlight did which is that. There was a big big Oscar pushed behind it. And it was marketed to us as look at this inspirational story about three women of color succeeding in a white man's world. Yes. And that's why this movie's important, and you should see it as opposed to this is a really great movie and a great story that also speaks on social issues right now. Yeah. Go watch this because of the social issues, and the marketing Hollywood marketing is so interesting because they sort of know that they at the way just mentioned the former they're gonna get people in seats. And that's the way they have to put the trailer together. But that also gives a lot of movie away. It makes the movie actually fill cheaper. When you're watching it because you're like, oh, I see what you're doing here. You're trying to get. To pay attention to something. I like just a really exciting movie again. And so I, but that movie ended up just obviously being amazing both of us away weeping on the plane. Yeah, I cried on an airplane. But so the point behind this this conversation, this general conversation, we're having none of these really movies really made a lot of money only one of them like I said made over two hundred million dollars. Yeah. And this list is as we said the five action comedies that you must watch before you die. Go ahead, man. This is a great list, and I cannot wait to get to the five. We're going to we're going to save it for a quick second. We're gonna talk really quickly about some of our honorable mentions and not to say that any of these honorable mentions are anything less than amazing. But there's a reason we decided not to put each one on. So we're gonna start off with gardens the galaxies. Honorable mention. Yeah. Both of them honestly one into their phenomenal movies. They're absolutely hilarious. They're definitely based in IP that existed they were based in a universe that people were going to go see there was no chance that gardens the galaxy one wasn't at least gonna make it's money back. Yeah. Because even. Someone like me who was I was really skeptical of the guardians. I think a lot of people were, but I still went and sought in theaters because it was part of the marvel universe because Chris Pratt was in its it's fourteen. We're already well in that point. We're into phase two already. I think that's the that's the face to face three. That might be the beginning phase three now that I think about it. It's I'm I'm useless with the phases. Yeah. I can't remember it's either it's one of the other. But, but like, you know, it was a great movie. Both of them are wonderful, and they're super super funny. They don't really have to succeed in the way that like the hitman bodyguard has to trail. And you're like, okay, I have to buy into the idea that comedy with action and to people I like is going to sell me on this of something else in the relationship between these two people, which is excuse me. Which is a big part of this episode is mainly if you look at the movies on the list, it's about a relationship between two or three people not like an on samba cast. Yeah. The next. Honorable mention says, Sean that didn't hot fuzz hot fuzz and cabin in the woods. And they're his cabinet of woods is really far. Over to the horror side. Yeah. But it's still very very funny throughout it's definitely like nods itself. Shana the dead is one that I was kind of arguing to be on the list, and you were saying it is AVI moving and actually turn it on when I was going to sleep last night. And it does succeed so well because it spoofs horror movies not action movies. It's really funny. And you know, then they obviously took the same sort of formula spoofed action movies and hot fuzz. Yeah. Does really close. Hot fuzz was I would say the closest to being number six on this list for us. Yeah. And it's really brilliant like the way that it really pokes genre. It's just for me personally, laid back on your back got up in the yelled Yar no never done that. I mean, it is referencing my favorite all time. Yes. Point break. I think that movie's really funny and they've really hit the nail on the head when I rewarded it recently. Didn't find it to be quite as funny as I had remembered. Well, yeah, I mean, the violence is in their violence throughout is good. Yeah. But then the end gets a little ridiculous like the shootout. And the town is an awesome. Yeah. But it's also the rest of hot fuzz pretty serious, like at least, it's grounded in reality. His whole thing reassignment the fact that he's like such a pain in the ass. It's like you kind of feel for him. Then the murders like pretty intense and they're hidden. Well, and all of it's done pretty well to where I don't I don't not enjoy the end it just takes me out of it. Like, we said this probably would be number six. I would guess the next one. We have is another duo one to. Yes, these movies are phenomenal. And again, if we wanted to put a superhero movie on our list, it's that or guardians that would have made it as the essential and you have to watch. Honestly, I don't even think you need to do anything about like it's different than it's totally different than guardians hundred percent. Deadpool is just like a movie that worked, and it's like it's all the best things about Ryan Reynolds that we fell in love with with van wilder waiting. You know, it's just him being quick and snarky and clever. But he also has really really great dramatic moments. Obviously romance is so good wonderful marina, backer, something like I love her absolutely adore her. But again, there's something about it just being in the world in the superhero universe. It coming out when it did again. I didn't see it a chance at failing. Like, it definitely could have not done. Great. Just didn't see it failing. Yeah. And I think the guys the hardest thing about this is we consider just making a top ten, but we didn't really want to do that. We wanted to spend a lot more time on the ones that we love. And why? So we talked about like what it is about the kind of separates them from everything else. Now deadpool, I agree is probably the most on the list of honorable mentions. It's the one that stands out the most it's like an RA did comedy. It's you know, Ryan Reynolds hadn't been around in a long time in the limelight. It's felt like the closest to our list along with hot fuzz. But these five have something very special about them. Yes. And the last one on the audible mentions ragging rock, which is really good. I mean, so fun. I love all these. I'm in love with all of these movies. What's the the rock creatures? That'd be smart question. Doug. Good again ruined his name is. But he's like more or something. Yeah. Exac, maybe I can't remember he's he's really funny. I mean that that whole movie everything about it is just priceless. Carbons? Great knit, even though he has like the Redick, you know, the thrown up on in the beginning. Yeah. Everything about that movie is pretty damn hilarious. But again, it just felt that marvel gets enough love. Yeah. Hundred percent, and so actually of these five films that we are going to cover right now. We're gonna talk about we have actually done proper reviews of three of them on our show our other show, which I'm gonna plug right now just called action movie and Adamy it's an hour long podcast do on the popcorn talking network. Also streams video we've done almost two hundred episodes, and it's an hour long discussion on each movie that we do. So one of the time you check that out. We've done three of these movies on there. I'll bet to the other to get done at some point and last, but not least did you guys want follow along with that show on Twitter. You can find it at team action show, you can personally find me, Ben Bateman media, Twitter, Instagram, and you. You can find me at Andrew guy and make sure to click. Subscribe light comment below. We've been talking to guys a lot in the YouTube comments. And of course, if you're listening to this through the ears and not watching podcast one apple podcast. Click all those things. Yeah. It's it's an amazing for you guys to be supporting us if you are. It's like really really means a lot to us, and we're so excited to be on collider and have this show. And this is our sixth episode Andrew, and I I've been out of the country a lot. So where sort of Lehrer like back logging getting some episodes ready for you guys don't miss weeks. And when you hear this one, totally sure, but I think it's doesn't matter because it's an evergreen episode. Exactly. And like, and like, I said the comments and the response have been absolutely amazing. So keep it up guys. Let's get into our list. I'm going to start off with number five. I know that we didn't really rank them. But it'll be the I'm just going to say number five because it's the last one that we threw in its spy, it's the only one that's made over two hundred million dollars on this list. It's because Melissa McCarthy isn't actual superstar. She. Actually, just is she's she has female Chris Farley. She is what he was doing in the nineties. She's everything she does in the movie as funny and real that in really quick everyone out there. That's just immediate like female, Chris Farley because they're both overweight. It's not about that. It's about physical comedy. It's about the commitment with the physical physical comedy the timing. Everything that they said there her timing is about as good in comedies I've ever seen. She's she's a genius. And it was like we all saw kind of coming in the slow roll. And then after bridesmaids happened, and she was just started getting started starring in movies that were just Melissa McCarthy. Doing this in the Boston in spy in identity, thief, and all this church were false most McCarthy has been nominated for an Oscar true. Yeah. For bridesmaids or vitamin she's amazing. She's so good a piece I actually took a couple of my car. She's like everything she does. Like, that's So Chris Farley is my favorite comedian of all time for me. It's very high praise to give it to her. Yeah. And I will say that Farley for me. What always loved about him? He has the same sort of. We'll feral quality where he can literally just kind of talk move. He can contorted face or just look at you in this way. That just makes me laugh ING, and she has the same thing. That's inappropriate. Yeah. Like the scene in identity thief, when they're in the car, and oh my God the singing scene, and she's she's singing along on the radio. And she's it's so fucking good. Like, I know that that's planned. But if it weren't to have been planned in those three songs came on. I guarantee you her performance would have been just as close to what we saw their improvised on the spot. So let's talk spy. This is Paul fig who has now done I think four movies with her right? He did bridesmaids. He did spy. He did the heat. And did he do one more? He might have just done the three. I'll tell you right now. This is latest movie was that movie with Blake lively, and Anna Kendrick came out this year, simple favor. I think it was called. Oh that movie you're supposed to be weird kind of weird. Maybe he just did three with her. But. So spy comes out. And I remember I didn't watch it in theaters. Did you know? No, no spy was one. I watched like at my like online once I'd been like, okay. Maybe I need to give this a try hurt. It's pretty funny. I started getting bored with most McCarthy last two years recognizing like she had been really funny in what's it called in bridesmaids surprise me? I hadn't given Ghostbusters. Also. These comedians when they come out of L, it's pretty pretty cookie cutter usually the kind of movies, they get it's you look at the stuff of if the feral or the stuff they give given to Kevin Hart. It's like she wasn't on us and L washing. Yeah. She was what she thought. She was just on TV. No. I don't think she did. Now, she she was Kristen wig. Maybe she was Gilmore girls. Yeah. Yeah. Thirty rock. She did it looks like she had parks and rec under belt the office. She was in fifteen episodes. So I'm just making it up. But my my point is one big comedian comes out, you know, the formula. It's very simple. It's like, okay, put them in. You know, you saw that movie was a call came out this year life of the party. Oh, it's like, okay. Mid middle-age woman goes back to college, right? Great. All these movies, the boss just the premise of these movies is so simple. And they've been doing this back to Adam Sandler movies, and like comedy is really pretty basic. Yeah. So spy comes out. And I think I just looked at it. As like, I don't need to watch this. Right. It's funny. But like, I don't need to see this. I don't care. There was nothing that I mean, it was like oh well stadiums in it and Jude law's in it interesting in burns in it. And she might be my favorite part was burn. I mean, she's grabbing state from definitely I think is the best part because he's just his delivery that one that one seem we talk about all the things. He's done drive. A coke off a train on flat. Was on fire could piano, late age tone this fucking on tone of my body and reattached it with this fucking on not that's medically possible. My favorite one is when he goes on the president's assassination. I want person Brooke Obama convincingly and she's like in black face. That's not appropriate. You guys have even if you haven't seen the movie go look up that monologue. Jason say the monologue spy because it's the funniest thing he's ever done. And just like rows burns detest for everything that walked she's the worst person ever. But she's so entertaining to watch like, I I don't know her in this movie, and then of course, like, the British friend. That's like the quirky British friend. That's hilarious in her ear. There's just so many like it's just a funny movie the beginning, which is in the office. And there's like bats in the this. This is all the skies is they're killing your Oliver aliases. She's like a forty five year old Yvonne, salesman cat lady. It's just that's the comedy. That makes these guys. Lucky? Good. Shh. Let's just about them looking like to like something cousins that you don't want around love just the two of them together. Plus, the roseburg is amazing. What does the state them say? When these like, I'm supposed to believe you, and they send you they send somebody who looks like MRs Claus or something. This is this is the problem with doing episodes like this is we just want to repeat everything that said it, but so why so why is it so significant why is it one of the five we have to watch. And I I think the answer that I'm gonna throw out to this is I would argue if will Ferrell was of his generation, and Jim Carrey was of his generation kind of like the guy. I think she's the person right now. I think you know, I mean, I guess I would have said the guy at the time because there wasn't really a female equivalent at the time. She feels like I think when you and I had a conversation on action, be anatomy which episode. It was we talked about the ten most A-List stars in movies right now. And I think we both ranked Melissa McCarthy in the top four. She is the only woman that made the list because it felt like she could she could open any movie two hundred million dollars. Yeah. And the other thing about her is that she she she's ever palatable. Everyone loves her all the way across the country. Whether you're on the the, you know, the west coast east coast in the middle of the country. Everyone loves most McCarthy her movies and. That's kind of a blessing and occurs of being in comedy. Right. Your movies, don't speak like they're not to political. They're not too intense. They're not trying too hard for this. It's just like fun dumb. Good time. And then honestly what I think is so cool about this is I we've all seen JAMES BOND. A million times, we know who money penny is we know who Q and M and all those people are, and it's really kind of cool to see Moneypenny thrown into the field, especially when this is your money penny. And and also like I feel like in genre. Like the spy genre. That's gotten so bad. Really like so many bad ones way. More badge aims, bond, movies and good. This is better than most JAMES BOND movies. Right. It's I think the reason it makes the list for me as when you have to see is that like you have an action comedy that is anchored and driven by a woman, and that's pretty rare not not funny. But it's like they don't get the opportunity very often. Well, yeah. I mean, it's not behind a lot of comedy is. Yeah. I mean, like, you know, there's the I guess Ghostbusters has recently come out that was an action comedy. But. Again, Melissa McCarthy's in that. It's like how many of female driven action comedies is. She not been in the spy that dumped me or something wasn't that? Christmas. Kate McKinnon, Kate McKinnon, right? And it's like heard medium things about that. But for the most part just Melissa McCarthy being on screen is so incredibly enjoyable, and I think spy is the best example of that. I think it's her best movie, and it just happens to to really break into the, Sean. So I'm gonna I'm gonna jump to the next one. I'm going to say number two on this list. And these are not ranked. Yeah. The other guys you love the other guys one of my favorite movies ever made. You you won me over to that on action movie anatomy, like liked it. That was fine. That was a good movie, Terry. But everything I where do you wanna begin? You wanna talk about Bob and his wife you want to when I was asked a question on the showdown at some point recently. One of the questions was what was the first Mark Wahlberg will Ferrell collaboration on screen, and I remember I I went held of the board and the other guys in the Mike Terry tried the water. No one laughed because nobody knows this movie. Nobody likes except except for those of us that love this movie. And then we know which is kind of a big part of this list in general other than I'd say the biggest blockbuster one which I mean spy and another one or huge like everyone knows about the other three are ones that you kind of have to bring people to and make them adore. There's one movie on us that definitely is like the movie gets, and we'll get to save it for last could probably guess what it is. Honestly, if you're thinking action comedy and huge. The other guys is so hilar- like the writing the timing its intelligent the moments with him and his wife the moments with him in Bob like Keaton these in disguise, and when they're in disguise 'cause he's trying to see men, and she's and she's dressed up as the grandma, and there's a sexy, and he looks like I want to break your hip. Who is that? That's my wife. Seriously, really was that. Oh, just I mean, so I think again without just quoting every line lane. And there is a full episode on this one on action movie, you guys can watch. If you want to just hear us like talk having. Yeah. But the reason for me this one is so interesting is that so this is directed by Adam McKay, and a lot of you guys probably know, but Adam McKay has worked very closely with welfare directed a lot of the most famous will fail films anchorman being probably the most significant of the bunch. She did brothers too. Didn't he believe he did? Yeah. He does this movie, and this movie kind of misses it doesn't really make very much money. A lot of people didn't get it. It's well because I think also throughout your wondering like these numbers in this statistic. Like what they're talking about. It does seem like there's I should be paying attention to something, you know, and you should be. And that's the thing about this movie. That so interesting now, you really get what was going on a couple years later when McKay made the big short. Yes. And that's his transition from comedy drama, but the. Shorts fascinating movie. And it's very smart. I recently watched it, and it's like, it's so good. I love that movie. But all of his stuff that he talks about in the big short about the financial crisis in two thousand eight he scrolls on the screen during the credits of this movie about Ponzi schemes about banks being bailed out, and that's exactly why like this movie. The story is what it is. Is is basically like he's kind of slow rolling you for the end when it's just like, here's all this knowledge. I'm about to drop on your face while you're kinda like laughing, and that was a fun movie. You're like holy shit. Because it's a serious issue. Mckay's like really obsessed with the stuff, you know, he's got vice coming out. So he's kind of now going a little bit more into the dramatic for. But like, I remember watching this movie in theaters. And I thought it was really funny. I I really liked it. But most people a new didn't see it and the ones that did see it. We're like it was fine. Like, no one that was me. Yes. It was fine. But I think it's because the comedy in this movie is pretty highbrow. It's pretty specific. It's definitely weirder. Like, the only. One of the movies that I can think of the welfare comedies that. I can think of that has as many moments that feel like odd is maybe anchorman because anchorman has a lot of really strange. Yeah. A lot of lot of strange awkward comedy. But like, you just it becomes amazing stepbrothers is really funny, but separate was also a little more on the nose. Yes. Yes. Whereas this one like it'll come back, and they'll be called axe throughout and they'll say things like oh my God. That's hilarious. We'll fairly gator as the pimp. He's amazing like his whole entire story. When he starts when he starts doing the voice. Let's say don't play no shit did never been about. No shit, filming us a Jimmy. She's like she's like Alan, I'm pregnant who. Did you go? Just hearing welfare do that is pretty phenomenal. I personally love Keaton. Oh, he's so good in. This is my favorite part. This was the big Michael Keaton comeback, right? All right. Delco chasing waterfalls on reference. He's TLC's. There's a a rapist on thirty second. I mean, look out still look like. I love don't say creep creep, unless you're referencing TLC. Now, let's talk about the thing that most people do remember this movie, and the thing that I think made it stand out to me when I I thought which is Sam Jackson the row is going to say it's got to be them, dancing and Heisman. So they're they're like, that's the that is the one thing about this movie, you can show to someone. And now, I think almost like more because Dwayne is so famous now, right? So much bigger now that he wasn't two thousand ten and it's a direct reference to every action comment action movie duo guys think they're indestructible. It's they're so funny. They're stupid lines. Are so good their whole bit in the in the bullpen and the office and just have to say like this is Mark Wahlberg first comedy. He he was really really nervous about doing this movie. He didn't really want to do it. He didn't really get it. And then he started to kind of buy in. He started to riff and like improv, and he's really funny. Yeah. His invitation with Farrell and just like their chemistry together is so excellent. How angry does it make you that we've gotten to daddy's? Homes, but we have not gotten the other guys too. I yeah furious. It's because McKay probably doesn't want to write it again. Right. Another one who knows or didn't make any money. Okay. So they made a second one was awful. It was very bad. Yeah. But. Forgive. But yeah, I think the other guys for me is is I mean, arguably the other guys is my favorite movie on this list. But it's not I think the most sensual movie on the list, just the one that I think is the funniest I mean, everything you guys. Steve like, Christine your husband. I've talked a lot about this. But like there's a couple of moments in that movie. Are so subtle. And I think there's this one moment where have you guys seen this like you probably don't remember this because this is one of those weird things we've enough time. Do you just pick up on shit? But like it's that scene where they're sitting with Christina. And and her husband who's got like the weird beard or whatever. And and she looks over. She's looking at Farrell, and she's like I've done things in bed with you that I haven't done with anyone since he's pointing covering her hand. Like does he doesn't? We'll. Ferrell? We'll feral goes will goes Christina's, your husband and. And then he goes he goes, no, you're a lucky dog pants, and it it goes to Will's face, and he like conscious head conscious and looks at his eyes are kind of like, what are you up to? And it's just it's just one of those moments where like the way they play it straight. So balking perfect. It's so funny. I could talk about this movie for three hours. So it'll be good. I love just a rabbit up when they pull over there looking. He's seven miles. Oh my God. Yeah. And then of course, the beginning the just like the dancing Highsmith the by leagues percent, Bobby fillet, all of it chancery when fucking when when when Walberg does the dance moves, and he's like, she goes. Wow, terry. That was surprisingly good. He's like you learn to dance like that star cast should be used to do all the dates. Like do. I think is so good because it's it's the most underrated fair movie by a mile, and he is one of the most definitive comedic comedians generation. And also, it's so smart. It's just it's talking about shit that really happened. It's really truly like this is a movie that's very aware of what it's talking about. And if you pay attention, it's it's really talking about like, it's poking real fun at our government and things that are still going on today. Serious issues. And yeah, yeah. I can't agree. So I'm going to hop in the next one because it's my favorite on this. It's mcgruder grew. It makes no sense. Why this movie's is good as it as it should have been as good as it is. It's not like a story doesn't blow your mind slight to forte. Who was a friend of ours times, a B-list? He's a he's high be probably. Yeah. I mean, he's definitely like a lot of times you go. We'll forte mcgruder is one of my favorite movies. It's forte's. Oh, I know him. He he did Portland. Yeah. Like, no, no, no. That's not we'll fourth. He does. He does the last man on earth is what's it called? Oh, I've heard of that show. I've heard it's really good. It was funny. He's he's really funny. And almost everything he's in. He was great on us. And Al he was there for a long time. This was a sketch that like a stupid macgyver spent like don't like the sketch that much now like never really liked it that much the the brilliance of this film is that it's it's written by I believe your mccone and also and will and Akiva, Akiva, Schaffer. Right. I believe so. Yeah. Because keeps on your work shit. Yes. Hot rod and all this movies. I wish we just talk about pop star. But I. Off star. But you know, like, what's really interesting about this movie? Is it came out most people missed it. But I do remember is that when this movie was out in theaters it was in the nineties tomatoes. Remember that? Yeah. That's that's why I saw like really it's that highly reviewed seems imparted seem like a joke at the time at the time. There hadn't been a lot of stories on tomatoes of a quote, unquote, bad movie reaching in the nineties. It wasn't like tomatoes hadn't been fully adopted yet. And Kristen wig was like she was definitely on her way up. Right. Philip hadn't been in much in a long time. And of course, the best part of the whole thing. Dita von Kant. Fat Kilmer Tomer has been hiding fact Kilmer a we didn't even mention our will mentions gives bang bang favor. Kilmer had come out of nowhere. And he's arguing the funny part of the whole movie this movie, it makes really great use of a lot of the things that hot fuzz does this like in the same way. Yeah. Has a lot of direct action movie. References, you know, it's all like the building the team stuff. And like just like the ego of like, the main guy in the group, and the fact that like all McGrew does things like you starts off with killing his entire team while he's bragging about being on the packs explosives. Like, what is it twenty minutes in the movie, he's on the ground begging? Ryan, Phillip as I do. Any? Team. Just copy toner. Good. His freak outs in his screams. Every scream is excellent. This movie so good. I had never seen this movie till this one time years ago, drew, and I have known each other for like seven years now or something like that. This is like maybe a year after we met we hadn't done any hosting either of us, and you were living you were like living with a buddy buddy that I've living with now. But we were an apartment now, he owns a home. Yeah. And and I I yeah. I got kinda sick. I remember we were hanging out, and I was kind of out of it. And we were like you should watch this movie. It's really funny and you put it on. And I was like that was like really hilarious couple years later took two more years to watch it again, I think, but I always had a pretty fond memory of the movie and the more I think I got into action movies, and we started AMA now about three and a half years ago. I think the more of that discussion. I started having the more really resonated with me. And I just was like this movie is amazing. It's a so funny like the revenge story even in the beginning because it has all the things we talked about. And may we talked about the hero qualifier and the villain qualifier? Right. John rambo. John, jay. Yeah. It's like in the beginning there like give this huge lodgers, like seven purple hearts and the congressional medal of home guy. He's like and the tight end for the university of Texas that was a long time ago. Yeah. That's like one of my favorite lines. Also like his whole bit when he's like in the monastery at the beginning is a direct reference to Rambo that's Ramsey three. And like, they'd take his watch. They'll give it back. There's just a lot in this movie. Like, I mean, just like Vicky Saint elmo's music is really funny. It's so bad like so bad. I love all all the time. She sings thinking what about your music insure your music career? It can way she sings it. It's so good. So Phil pays perfect. He's the perfect casting for this rose cooking. Poconos. And then he's he comes actually think. Young out of the kademi thinks shit. Don't stick shit dustic shit. There's also just weird comedy in this movie where you're like, there's there's a difference between being joke around with your friends think you're really funny and actually being hilarious and the stuff that they right into this movie. That's so random but worked so ELLs the stuff on like, I don't know as funny as I think I could be if I was given like a well-paid job to write a comedy their stuff. Like, I don't think I could come up with that like hit him with the car in the license plate and all of it. His book. Oh my God. Cycling. Yeah. That is also one of the best things is like when you find out. He's the villain of the movie. Yeah. Right. Started. Bang boxes or something like motor box. And then you're like, oh my God. You're just the villain in this vodka. Dita von wife, pregnant, wife, everything like literally, everything that Kilmer. Does is amazing decker stuff is so good. Yes. All of just I mean, this whole movie, but like, and then the last thing I was going to add is our powers Boothe. He's really he's really funny in this. He's a perfect foil. And the one line that you've told me before that I agree with you the more. I thought about it that they miss is after he does the whole suck your dick thing. And when he's finally like he he looks at Howard booth after you know, it's a callback to it. And he says it again, I'll set your dick. And you always said, yeah. Wished powers was like not in this time Mack. 'cause like it's perfect. It's the only miss in the whole movie. Yeah. It's totally true. Yeah. I love this movie. I love the throat ribs. I love Vicki Saint Elmo. I love how stupid he is. Like we will be there with bells on. No absolutely number bells. It's so perfect. And it's definitely my favorite on the list out suck as many rip many throats. And one more shot at forte. Who is a guy that in back in the day. When I worked at a restaurant. We met him waiting tables before we got into hosting, and then we would see him parties and things like that as we got more into the business, but the most purchased best guy in the world like one hundred per so nice. So generous with his time always like so just like happy to see you Tangs out toxic. Really, really good. Do. He's one of those do that doesn't feel like he's just waiting to get out of the conversation. Like, he goes out of his way to talk to you. I I remember we were working. What is it San Diego comic con twenty sixteen? Maybe. Yeah. Yeah. And he went out of his way to talk to both of us. He saw on a cart because he was about to do last man on earth. Yeah. Yeah. Doing like a carpet for it. And I don't know if we just wrapped up where we're going to do that. But he like went out of his way to come over and say, hi, and like, oh my God. It's good to see you. You're working this like, yeah. Exactly. And like just one of those guys that, you know, reiterating this we met him in like twenty thirteen or fourteen while we were waiting tables, and like, it's very rare. You meet somebody who is famous and successful and awesome. And you meet them in a service capacity, and they are courteous and. I have to take you seriously before you actually kind of become somebody bigger for air doing more things I've always really appreciated about. Well, I think he's like one of the one of the cooler celebrities that I've come across and become like, a friend of you never made you feel like you're waiting tables. Yeah. It was like, oh your buddy ran into the restaurant. Even just like being appreciative of the wine, you suggest right? It's great wine man that was great suggestion less than you have it again love that guy. So that's number three in the list. I'm gonna jump in now with number four. We'll save the big one for last. And that's the nice guys. We were crying in the theater watching. This is one of the funniest movies. I have ever seen in a theater. I like, I there's so many things about this movie. Another one just like the other guys we are like how did this not make money? How did this film? Yeah. That was actually I wanted to kind of talk to or allude to it when we're talking about the other guys because it's like, you know, the whole movie's kind of touching on this thing this this like big issue that we need to pay attention to and the nice guy is just like if this if the nice guys was made in the eighties. It would have been absolutely mind bending in the sense of calling out the government for all the pollution, and the smog, but that just kind of like that placeholder that story holder worked so well from me, we live in LA, and we live in this horribly polluted city, and it's like even back in the eighties. This is what they were talking about. So one thing with just the story. I it's super believable. And it it's like I enjoy that. It's based in reality. Yeah. I also. I think that. That this movie succeeds in a way. So Shane black created the action comedy. Like, it's not like he's the first, but he like really lethal weapon is kind of the original version, and he has of the Shane Black's type of script is so specific. I mean, all a lot of famous directors and producers will talk about the Shane black 'isms and his writing and they come out a lot. Yeah. And you know, so Shane really makes this movie work, and and it's cool to see that in in twenty. I think it's twenty sixteen is movie came out. Yeah. It in twenty sixteen. He's making another movie that's kind of the same beats the same type of thing, but succeeds so well, it's like the most refined version of of what he's been doing forever. And it's just so well done it still works. I mean, also like we've talked a lot on our other show, but the second half of crows career when he basically became fat. Sweaty crow was willing to play that guy. He didn't and sort of poke fun at himself for it a little bit one hundred percents. He's so enjoyable, and it's there's such a good pair. He accepted her betrayal. Equanimity? Jack. I'm fucking your dad. I love because I know Russell Crowe has kind of been known to be duty taste very seriously. Like it's been like a problem on movie sets especially getting nominated for best actor two years back to back. Right. Wasn't back to Becker. He was nominated at least two years in a row Cinderella, man. And I don't know if you got nominated for that. But definitely Beautiful Mind the mind one extra but he didn't win for it. Yeah. And and to have him come into this movie, and like you said make fun of himself dumpy like seven dollars short. That's seven dollars show. That's like one of my favorite moments. He's got I mean, and there's there's a lot of good moments Gosling falling asleep during Crowe's stories I've ever heard all the thing in the car when he's like when he's hallucinating because he's fallen asleep at the wheel. I'm like convinced that Ryan Gosling is one of the best comedic actors out there. But he just doesn't give the chance because he's too pretty also when you book Ryan Gosling, you wanna put them in like Bladerunner twenty forty nine like, the nice guy because. Watch his timing in this like when he breaks his arm. Like when he finds SIDS Shattuck murdered next to him freaks like he's so damn funny. Oh and also a lot of his stuff like getting wasted at the party following the pool the mermaids seen her. It's really really funny him in CRO in the stall when he's sitting there reading magazine, like China all the door look away. There's a mirror close your eyes, the comedies amazing. I mean crow like almost everything he does. And this movie is hilarious. There's just there's just a lot of comedy. The beets are funny. It's smart. It's quick. And what I think separates it from the rest of this list is I actually think that there's real stakes danger in this movie feel like it's some point if like JAT or Russell Crowe to have died like in the movie, I would have totally believed it to happen. What I mean? It's like, I obviously didn't think gossiping or the daughter was going to die. But it's just the fact that like there was someone in the movie who was just bad enough. Like Russell Crowe's not a good guy, bad guy. But he's not a good guy. And she's like, Mr. Healy did you kill that, man? It was like good. Because if you did it never talk to you again. And you're like he's just kind of like a evil. He's like a little bit. Yeah. He's a little bit bends a little bit bad. So I think the idea that he could not make it through the movie is one of the things I loved about it a lot. Yeah. And also, I mean, there's just those moments in this movie from the very beginning. I love the first shot of Gosling in the bathtub and his full suit. He looks at his finger, and it says, you'll never be happy. There's just like there's a lot of this movie the whole scene with all the kids on the steps with the smog dead. He's like one of their hands. Fucker? I thought you were dead. Yeah. The one the one kid is like oh show. My dick for twenty bucks. What am I even saying? Yeah. Movies, really funny. This is a movie that if you missed watch it, it's it's like, you don't have to really it's not like the other guys were super smart. It's not really the same thing as McGrew where like it's a classic. It's just funny to anyone that watches it. I mean, I showed it to my friend. I was just in Tokyo. My friend grew up in Tokyo and speaks obviously fluent Japanese and like pretty good English. They loved this movie. Yeah. Dying laughing watching the see I'm a huge fan. So I mean, I think it's chain black of invented the John Ryan thirty years later, you know, he makes in the movie, and it's just as good as the first one. So if you missed it watch this one we have one last one left to talk about guys, and this is kind of the OJ, it's sort of the most famous genre. At this point. I think. Yeah. I mean, you look at everyone who was in it and at the time like the fact that Downey does this in the middle of his run. Yeah. This is. I mean, this is like movie has Robert Downey junior the same year he makes ironman getting nominated for an Oscar. It's got Tom Cruise and his most disguised comedic role he's ever done. It's got McConnell hay playing a random cameo part before he just blows up. It's got all these comedy guys. He's got Bill hater, and you've got Jack black and there. Yes, Stiller is just and he's a top of his game. It's got our friend Maria menounos. She's she's she's got a part in it this movie is this movie is amazing when I've gone back to watch it again. It's got Cooper into Stephen Cooper was his what's his last name the director who's in. Also in the Steve Coogan Steve Coogan Janney with bride Nolte. Yes. Yes. Cast is huge. Nolte? I think some of the highlights talk about here. I think thing that stands out about this movie. There's two things really. It's usually down in cruise. That's like the things people talk about. And the trailers on the trailers are. So they're so good with her kiss Halley. The music. So not okay. But yes. So the first thing cutting and they're cutting to like to Downey he's just like. Lighten the trailers are bucking contacts like his how blues so good. He goes. And does what no one thought could be done in two thousand ten. There's a fucking incredible interview can watch on it got wrong. On the on Stephen Rocca, just making an appearance again scaring the shit. Everybody. John Stephen Roca down champion. You can check out top ten show. Yeah. Don't do it. Possibly you can't get away with that this both. He's beaten us both. And he looks good in cowboy hat. What was I saying? Oh, so so there's this incredible interview can go find on the Joe Rogan podcast. It's on YouTube and Jamie, FOX talking to Rogan about Downey. And he's like he's he's like talking about you know, doing black face. And he's like he's like literally telling a story about, you know, on the phone, you should you should do black face or whatever. And fuck. It's a great interview. He does a great impression of it. And just down. He's such a character. But I mean, true truthfully him in that movie is one of the funniest things I've ever seen onscreen in my life. Trumpcare. No. He's so good. And like. We don't care. It's like you make fun of it. Obviously, you make fun of him thinking that he's like. Leans into obviously, the black audience that would be watching it normally with their judge. It's like this is how dumb white people are like this Alpa chino is great. I mean, the whole all like there's things about the movie that miss for me. There's things that are super like because a lot of of that movie. That's really offensive. I mean, the whole simple Jack bit is pretty offensive everything down. He does is pretty offensive. But I don't care. It's kind of a. He's amazing. He's any commits. And like we did we didn't episode at one point on AMA talking about I don't remember the movie now that I go back. So no, it was I was collateral going full soloist. Right. And because we talked about how Jamie FOX has big year when he you know, he has Ray and collateral the same ear and wins best actor nominee for best. Supporting and a few years later. He does this Joe Wright movie called the soloist where he's like a homeless saxophonist. I think Tim Downie. Yes, him down. And he went, you know, as they say in this. They say this movie never go full retard. That's the thing that we we were like we're gonna talk about this for an hour. We really wanna make sure we don't actually reference. So we were like, we're gonna deem we're gonna deem when you go for it. But you don't win an Oscar is going full soloist full solo we've used that term ever since. And the the full sole scene is so good. It's amazing like fountain and Batta. Have you really want? So good. I did go for it. Go for it. Sometimes you lose yourself in character. And some say, I've actually think that I was I was dumb. I was actually. It's it's amazing that whole bit. And then when he breaks down about like, the actual guys that have one in history and how he's so far from Forrest Gump from Rainman is so wonderful. I mean, all of it. The opening sequence of this movie, the big platoon level war sequence is so good. It's so funny when he starts crying and his hands are gone. A little Jack Black's hanging in the background. And. Yeah. Downey's describing the snot everywhere. It's so good hurt so much. Yeah. I gotta agree. It does. I think the ending falls apart for me the most. Yes, it's so hard to end these movies so hard to end comedies period. I think one of the hardest things action comedies is ending them is because you actually are telling story that matters like using an action movies got to wrap it up. And I think the end of tropic thunder falls apart a little bit for me. But yeah, man, it's kind of it sets the bar, and it could never be made. Now, it was only ten years ago. I mean, there's a thing with our it'd comedies that. Unfortunately, I was just talking about this before we started recording. But like you go back and look at wedding crashers, which was like a classic of its time. And that would be so funny. But like I was listening to the ringer watchos podcast talking about it. And they're like, you know, honestly, if Twitter existed in the way that it does today doesn't five and movie was advertised about guys that lie about their identities to sleep with single women at weddings. Yeah. Vulnerable women to own vulnerable women who are intoxicated at weddings. It would be. There's like no studio would touch that movie with ten football. There's no way anybody would make that because it's pretty morally bankrupt. But at the time for whatever reason, you kind of had this generation of comedies where there was no accountability for that type of political correctness. And I think this is sort of a cutoff point has eight because that's really when Twitter starts to be thing. And like, and it's just interesting to look back at these movies that they got. The way they got made and how they were acceptable at the time. There's definitely stuff in almost every single one of them that are rough. But I would I would hundred percents. I tropic thunder is the number one could not be made today. Even though it felt like I couldn't be made. Then like, even then I'd heard about Robert Downey doing black face. And I was like I I must be hearing you wrong. It must be like a scene. Simple. Jack stuff is like over the time complete forgotten about that. Because it's so over everything else. And then of course, you know, the other thing about this movie that is so legendary is put yourself back for a second in two thousand eight and people kind of forget a little bit now because of the success of the last three possibles. Oh, yeah. Where Cruz actually was. He wasn't. Yeah. Exactly. Right in in two thousand five he had gone on this press tour for war, the world's when he talked really openly about Scientology and Katie Holmes, and the couch jumping and all that and Spielberg kind of distance himself from him. And he's like, I don't wanna work with the sky anymore. So the next year mission impossible three bombs. No, one sees it and cruises career takes. A break. He doesn't do a movie two thousand seven which is the first time he had taken a year off in a while he hadn't taken a year off. And then what is it comeback through lions for lambs yet? He does lions for lambs. He does Valkyrie that same year and a good movie, very solid. So completely overlooked people weren't ready and this movie and nobody was a surprise cameo. And the story goes that he's good friends with Stiller and still are called him. And it was like, hey, I wanna put you in this much his agent less. Grossman and cruises famous line is okay. I'll do it. But I want fans wanna dance. Says the Stiller I wanna dance. Sure, you got it, you know. And that's that's crews characterists giant fat Hannity dances. And he's phenomenal is less gross. He's he's the funniest part of the movie. He he steals every scene. He's in his dancing is so good. I will. So intense horrifying, but it also he made fun of himself enough to us as a society and as an audience, we're like, maybe cruises cooler than I was off back a little bit did not all the way took a little while. But that's the beginning of the rehab. It's like twenty eleven is like, you know, ghost protocol does well enough that he starts to kind of have shot again. But like, and he's back to just being cruzi crews, and I honest to God remember seeing this movie theaters and not realizing until after the movie that it was Tom Cruise. Really? Yeah. I wasn't as big of a fan, then I just was sort of. I wasn't looking for it. So I kinda just missed it. I remember looking very intently forks at heard Tom Cruise has a cameo, and you're like, okay, Tom Cruise like Cruz is gonna do. Okay. All right. Sure cameo. And then when I finally saw it. I was like oh my God. Yeah. No, no way. Do this way of doing? This is amazing. Of course, you get like McConnell. Hey, right before he's about to go on that crazy run with true detective and Dallas buyers club. It's like right after this. Yes. Yes. Exactly. Just a couple years later. He was at that point that he did this movie. You know, when when he's pecker say what if Sam Packer, whatever he's he's like tiger nuts. He's totally a joke. Like, he's not he's still rom com. Fool's gold guy Sarah guy, he's not like the Lincoln lawyer guys up mud. He's not any other shit. So I think this movie succeeds on so many levels because it's over the top. It's so funny. It's such a smart reference to the war, John. Do you think that it's the most important one on the list because of what it did when it came out in the boundaries of broke of the ones that we're talking about is the essential movies? Yes, we're talking about including all the honorable mentions, and we're sort of talking about the importance of these movies. There's an argument to be made that guardians is the most important movie of all because it's the biggest risk biggest most money behind it. That has really become an institution that that franchise now at it was such a weird swing too. It to become like a billion dollar movie. Like, none of these movies. One of these movies made two hundred million gardens two billion dollars. Yeah. Yeah. And we were trying to kind of keep this list within the last ten years because it was it'd be too hard to talk about the action comedies for the last fifty years the most relevant movies out now. So that's our five those are the five movies that we define action comedies. You must see before you die. No matter. How terrible it might be. Yeah. It's a reiterate one more time guys tropic fund or mcgruder. The other guys spy and the nice guys three of these films. Tropic thunder the other guys and the nice guys all have full action movie an hour long episodes talking about every act of the careers. These statements. You can go got a whole break down. If you want to really have a moment. And I do believe spy mcgrigor will both make our show at some point one hundred percent will. And I'm sure you guys have a ton of movies that you like that we left off the list. This is our collective five that we feel are the most important for you guys to see. So please, let us know movies. We missed how you guys feel about our list. You can even rank them down below in the comments. We will be communicating with you. I'm so glad we did this. Yes. A screen. It was the best thing that came out of mortal engines. Are and away guys. If you want to follow on what we're saying what we're doing at team action show. Be sure to check out patriots dot com slash team action. We've got additional content coming out every single week on their drew, and I do movie breakdowns schmo down behind the scenes reactions all kinds of cool shit. We recently did a mini AMA on the social network came up. 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The Challenge | Everything You Need To Know

Rob Has a Podcast

1:18:16 hr | 3 months ago

The Challenge | Everything You Need To Know

"Today's podcast talking about why we should be checking out the new season of the challenge on. Mtv is sponsored by our friends over at rock auto dot com chain stores. They've got this habit of having different price tiers for professional mechanics and do it yourself. Irs but rock auto dot com. Their prices are the same for everybody and that's reliably low. Rock auto dot com always offers the lowest prices possible rather than changing prices based on what the market will bear like do rock auto dot com is for. Everybody doesn't require membership or an account. Loggins i don't worry about coming up with another password. Rocco dot com. They're a family. Business serving autoparts customers online for twenty years. Go to rocco dot com to shop auto body parts from hundreds of manufacturers. They have everything for engine. Control modules and brake parts tail lamps motor oil even new carpet. Whether it's for your classic or your daily driver. Get every need. 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Double agents is premiering this wednesday night at mtv with a lot of familiar faces so we have brought in our own familiar faces who have been covering the challenge for our age since way back in twenty fourteen six years running They are not double agents. They are here to help us. Make sense of the challenge because there's going to be a lot of new eyeballs on this challenge with familiar faces from big brother and survivor. Taking part in all the action will welcome in the co host of the challenge. Wrap up of i. Of course you know her from and not only the challenge but also the brand new new girl old guy podcasts. Here's your new favorite podcast. Yes listener tall. My work so appreciate i would not say i'm episode by listener. But definitely dab all the data. I i am happy talking to europe. It feels like it's been a little while Fortunately you guys have to see my tired face on the streaming. And we're doing. I apologize for that. But i'm excited. Yeah we've been we've been covering the challenge since before it was cool challenge. I had a real resurgence since been new. We been new. We've been here working to continue to be here. And let's bring in the man who not only knows everything about the challenge but also Those price points of any undergarment that you might throw at him please welcome great bryant cohen. You know a lot of people said twenty twenty. It's a bad year but this is the second time i'm doing a podcast with rob. So how bad could it possibly be the world. Lots is brian's game gus. Okay various brian. How have you been. I've been good i got. I haven't no new podcast from me. I don't branch out into. He knew what i know. This is this is. Why are you considering any new podcast brian. You know. I like this. This stick to twitter. You know i to watch the new show. So i watched one tree hill. And i'm sticking to my twitter. Feed the the focus on launching new. Are you tweeting. Extensively aback hill or bullying. Because that's all you got on my feet of water. Yeah where else are you going to find that ven diagram. I'm unique i i. Is it nice to be asked how you are past. That's new frito other co host. I never remembered as brian. How he's doing from the expert. Now we know now. We know for the next several months okay. So that's that's out of the way so we're gonna talk about the challenge. Now that i am not a challenge guy. I am challenged in many ways. But i am not a challenge person but i want to be. I really wanna be been intimidated to get in that. The last season came on right during winters at war. I was all pumped up for it and then the timing was bad. Timing is good for me right now. Then we try with you before. Rob you've been. This isn't your first rodeo with us here and did it. Hasn't really taken. But i said this before but i'm not really here to to sway anyone you. The audience needs the challenge more than the challenging. The audience. like we've been here. The challenge is thriving and there's nothing else to watch so i feel pretty confident that you're going to get into it right away. And so well. A lot of people brian. What's been behind the surge for the challenge over the last couple of years where it is more popular than when you first started covering at least from my vantage point. Is it because of the challenge. Happe- podcasts yeah. I mean that's obviously the first thing that propelled it took a few years the now we're really no but i think the challenge over the last few seasons has done a really good job of expanding their university. May i maybe like five or six years ago really started to bring in people from not just like the real world bubble. Reach out to another. Mtv sharia the one and alex become kind of like this battle of the network stars type show where they're bringing people in from notches mtv shows but any show that basically is reality. Show the it's open for casting so they really brought in a lot of new fans that way of people that have their wanted to people that they love the right image. Oh they're on the challenge. I watch that and then make falmouth okay so that it has been a real place to go after big brother for many people. There's a lot of big brother faces that are here in this new challenge cast but the headliner at least from our vantage point of when we're talking about Survivors crossing over now. Of course just in j star is back for another round is that correct or base. No he was he was there last. Season made a good impression. And he's back again again but the headliner here is just coming off of a deep run in survivor winners at war. Our friend miss survivor natalie anderson. This is huge. We needed this. Just because honestly. I think rob when i've talked about survivor with you all right and like who should make the jump even before generally did that's always sort of like a fantasy question i mean. Roll the tape. I definitely had to said natalie but that's not like a hot take. I think people have been clamoring for natalie to make the jump ear It's a supernatural fit for her as a cross fit trainer as like an extremely big personality presence on survivor and physical threat. So i'm so excited to see natalie. O'brien is and it's it's not a hot take. Everyone is universally excited to see her. I mean when you saw her stuff where she had run up the mountain a thousand times. Like that's like you know. That's a very typical challenge. Type thing that they're going to do this season the way she killed that i mean that. Was you know if if people are already excited for her. This shot up even more. Brian has no commitment audio quality. Like we'll get a dog and care about podcasting. the humans and the canines are all pumped up or natalie. Anderson could be here. i don't see how she could lose their feels. She feels like the winner huge labels but it seems like do as over in the same boat. Here's the thing about the challenge. And i'm sure as soon as brian jokes like we don't know the rules that we truly john. I mean we can piece together a little bit what we know about the format but the format changes and even if we knew the format going in what's frustrating about the challenge. As a new viewer. I would say is that it will shift during the game at it. Seems like there are no rules so as a new viewer. I would recommend you shedding your concerns with the rules. Just take it as it is. They will shift in change. But what's great for natalie. Here is unlike survivor. were being unknown. Physical threat can hurt you. And you want to downplay. Even big brother is great in most formats and brian jumping here. This is wrong but it's great to be intimidating rookie. Because no one will want to go in against you and there are lot of depending on the format. There's a lot of situations where you're picking your persons call out in an elimination and just being a huge physical threat. Rookie woman giannis. Not on this season. But she's just a solid sh- wrong female competitor and she goes the distance because people don't wanna go in against her so like the best thing you can do on the challenges show up and be a physical looking threat and especially for now because you're not going to be someone that like piss people off that maybe they wanna get her out what she's like a very you know very likeable person. So she's going to have that going for her and we saw last year who is big physical threat as a rookie. But no one would ever want to go after him because they know it. You know the very likely chance. You're going to go home. So natalie is in a great spot but it's a lot of the times of john's is still based on these deep rooted friendships and bonds that people have shared for decades. Now for some these people so it's not as easy as analogy here. She's going to win. Because you do need some level of connection on friendship that i think she'll be able to develop but it's not gonna be as built. Dan has some other people already have. Let's just nail down in terms of familiar faces in the cast. All of the big brother people who were hearing this. You mentioned z. Fussy is back I see josh martinez. That he and also casey clark to big brother winners. Who had a close call with big brother. Twenty two ultimately do show up on tv here in twenty twenty year on the challenge. Yeah i mean that was pretty unclear where they pulled for covid or did. They declined to do the challenge. Yeah i on that case. He was great casey. This is the second season. She was on last season She had a l- very many quiet episodes. We do a drinking game monitored by our chief party officer cao card and i think brian submitted a role that like any time. Casey says something. That's not like explaining the rules of a game of a challenge than Because like she was saying nothing and then she sort of mixed it up with a little love triangle between her girlfriend and nominee. She broke away as a huge challenger and so she really made her mark. Slow start but in case he's gonna come in hot josh heart. I mean it's cold. It's cold to me. You don't like josh. Look here's the thing every season he's on the cast. I'm like oh my god but then it's like he does contribute e competes in a way that i wouldn't expect he's very smart on camera in terms of getting into fights with people so i think he's sort of necessary but i don't love to love him. Casey makeup of what's great about the show is that you need both of them. You need casey. Because she's like the straight man the competitor who's got a good chance to win any josh. Because he's the hot mess who's going to flame out in an elimination but he's going to provide like crazy drama and fighting. You need the into the end. You need both of them amongst app. Also here that amber bore so tra that was to go back and listen to. We did do a brother twenty two. I look at her if you want to look at her game here. She is She's here on this season so good for amber brazil. Try if you're in an over under alley coming into twenty twenty. How many times it was. I gonna say the word zotov this year you would have said. Probably one half is the over under teague under one. I'm fully in the under. I mean but what's great about amber. And i'm sure this was discussed ad nauseam wadden. She was rumored to be on. Big brother is like she got such a raw deal. On big brother mode cowboy like emerges the breakout star that sees it goes on the survivor amber. Boyzone trump goes the way of the. I dunno i was gonna say goes the way of the dinosaur. That's like eight years old but But mike i'm excited for her to get another shake on television. I don't know how long she's lasted. But what school. And i think what will get the big brother fans of people who are tuning in for the big brother. People excited is like there are and brian and i talked about this on the podcast. All the time like there are certain seasons where there are like three random rookies or not in the season who just get thrown in and they get thrown right out and what they need to sort of success successfully work in is a big crop of rookies to sort of look out for each other where the big dogs have to sort of make relationships with them. And that's what we have here. We have a big crop of big brother. People with survivor people worked in and then some randoms from other shows too like i really do. Think the rookies have a shot. Amber specifically she someone who's probably gonna get tossed in pretty early on ryan was the bigger head scratcher being amber brazil. Tra- here on the challenge. Or when we were gonna see. Amber abruzzo brought back for big brother. Twenty two. I thought i may grace. I know it's it's kinda surprising to see her in any form and it's always amazing like how does like the big brother. Qatar would make sense. Maybe she will come back here. But i don't know how she got. Awesome the midst of like all right. We need to pull another big brother. Let's go back there like that's a lot of other choices from more recent ambrosius like us. She's in the mix with some of the up. Paul for the not getting on the big brother season. It's okay also another big brother alumni each year lolo jones is back lolo. We got it olympia. And so she she was actually part of what i dub pros vs joes types new. Okay w i'm sorry. I'm so glad to hear. I climb on this podcast with that. So she was our those as we talk about this we. Brian brings us up and he's like. Oh what i decided. Okay she she's going to be very interesting coming in because obviously has an olympic athlete. He should be great but obviously from big brother. And you know the pros vs joes. The hotheadedness has got to be a big back there into her time. But it's amazing that they this caliber of person on on the show. It's the you know this. This is what the show's all about. Okay now for people who are listening to this. Who wanna maybe. I know we're joking around okay. We don't understand the rules but seriously. What are the rules alley like. How do you play the challenge. The every single season it really is different. And what's short frustrating to me and like the real challenge heads will know this but like they have. These names almost like on survivor. Where it's like you know a blood versus water season and you know what the rules are. The challenge has those but they're called the gauntlet the inferno free agents. And you're like well. What the hell is the difference between the gauntlet and then for those are really throwback names but like it's honestly hard for me to remember from season to season what the formatting things are basically what they do. It's sort of a hodgepodge there. They take what they like and they leave behind what they don't and they bring it into the next season and add new twists so for what we know this season double agents is sort of twist on free agents. Free agents was a great format where everybody was an individual. We don't need to get into it. Free agents was a lot of people will be like. what should we start with. I like free agents. i recommend it double agents. All we know. Is there sort of a loose attachment to free agents. Were aware that they're going to be running this impairs. So that's the other thing. Sometimes it will be too large teams half sort of like a survivor tribe. Sometimes it will be individual and they compete with different people each week. Sometimes there are paired season. We are under the impression that this is a paired season. E w exclusively revealed that the challenges will be partnered up. I'm quoting now. All season long. Those partnerships can slash will shift because players can steal partners or be stolen themselves so like a temptation island hopefully for lira and cam renown challenge couple. But i think what's going to be interesting here. Is they've tried to do this. A couple of seasons ago again. It could have been last season convene ten years ago. I'm really not sure. Cova coleman weird where there was an opportunity where a bunch of teams went in and only one man and one woman would come out so it was like a three way elimination and the idea was that even if the initial couple like if bride and i went in against haley namie and scally and kirsten and it would just be one woman and one man comes out. I'm doing a podcast with scally. Now like we survive but the same team came out. there was no switch. They've sort of dabbled with the parker which in the past but it didn't play. I'm very excited and really hope this doesn't fall flat and that people are really scheming in swapping partners. The other thing that we know for this sunday started last season brazil. Should we try this out for the. perhaps podcasts. Just a battle royale. And i really would like mix things up. This is the new recap idea. This is how you get the. What was it. The mass swinger or something. It's really about podcasts. Honestly after podcasting with akiva. I really appreciate my partner with brian. And don't want to talk about more than meanest thing. I've ever said about the high bar. I forgot to dig more into that later. But this is the only thing we know about. This is what they started. Lasy is where in order to make. Tj's final you have to win elimination and get what they call the red skull which is like a sticker on your helmet so you have to win and elimination gets the final previous as you can just kind of avoid eliminations let everyone else battle it out and you kind of make it. So they're bringing that back. This season where you have to win and elimination which really prevents people going under the radar exactly forces you at some point to take a stand against someone maybe a weaker person or team for the season so you gotta try to finagle that and the other kind of twist on the twist is it. Seems like there's going to be five or ten ten skulls maybe five teams. I guess have to make what we can only go to the final. So i guess after maybe the first week or so then all of a sudden people off the star going and again while the plays out. But that's what started last season. That is what they're bringing back up for. This and i really didn't work last season and again we complained about danette. We not just myself my myself and my partner my partner we. It was like there was no pay off because we thought they'd have to be an unlimited amount of skulls. And then you're gone if you didn't if you didn't time it right four of you are out sorry and instead they were just enough opportunities for everyone basically to get a school so i think they're really doing a good change now on the twist like for me. It failed but the fact that they are having a known. Limited amount will definitely improve the strategy the season and again. It's an example of. Why like someone like natalie or someone like nam who will talk about coming in as a big physical threat. Like who's gonna want to call natalie out for a skull absolutely not one so armee some of the things that people are really excited about for this particular challenge season so i think one of the biggest things maybe not excited is the right word but on the biggest things about this season is the fact that the biggest celebrity from this show. Johnny ban is is not on. This has been like he's the the face of the show. He's the person ever. So if you think of the challenge both people think of him and he's not on this season he won last season. And there's been talk. Maybe he'll never come back you. Yeah he hasn't really said he's tired and might be like a hint. The retirement bill will come back at some point but regardless he's not on this season and normally were blind people plan about about the house of that. It's very him. Focus of the story. Lines are bad him so a lot of people are fall by the wayside. So it'll be interesting to see without him this season. Who some of the new people a pop up to kind of. Take the spotlight on as the face of the gel. You know there's still wurley other faces. West is on this season to show. We'll get his airtime. But some of the new people could of rise to the top challenges like er where sometimes like the main lead leaves and then the focus of the show will shift to another person. Okay burn atlantic grey's anatomy. Which hospital showed you know. I think it's just like and this isn't the only time in anna's has never been on and west is certainly someone who is more interested in mixing it up with the rookie. Isn't playing a different game. Every time mostly out of necessity because he's like burned. Everyone whereas bananas plays sort of more loyal these are my people and we just moved to the end in mass I brian like in the hypothetical merch. You'll never have. I wouldn't say excited is pretty much the tagline for the challenger. Hap- up. I think people are excited about some old faces coming back who you know. The new folks might not recognize what i think will be quick to be excited. About when theresa and durrell durrell is for the the road rules. Real world fans durell has been around since the dawn of time and is like a classic staple great competitor personality very lovable by the audience. But he hasn't stayed around as long as like bananas and west and so he was last season thirty. Had sort of like an upsetting display. He's back i think. Just you hear durell as a challenge fan and you get excited. That he's back and theresa has been gone even longer. She's she laughed. She had two kids with like a professional athlete. I don't know who. Because i don't care only really care about theresa. She sort of had a different life and now she's coming back as a totally new player. Probably more estan like winning and the money that the drama. She's had relationships with west and leroy were. She's competed in partner. Seasons of the challenge with both west leroy. And so it's really exciting to get some new faces but old familiar faces and announced quoting the the the full house theme song. So i probably should stop. You miss your all your friends But so so. We have a great new crop. We've talked about but we also have a great like old guard coming through. So that's exciting. Okay should i pick somebody that. I do not know who they are to be my person the keep me invested in the season. Should i adopt one of these challenge. People maybe a rookie and a veteran. That i don't know from survivor and big brother. Should we talk more about these people know. Tell me maybe. I'll agree any graham. Yeah the issue with kicking people in the challenge is like so like last. The reason that jay has made a splash. And i almost feel a little conflicted about it is like j. Took out c. t. t. is one of the biggest names in challenge real world history. He's back and let me just say quote eric. He's looking real good real hot He looks good. Dad see is back and he's looked slim and trim and ready to go because people he got embarrassed last season he went up against jay early and limit nation trying to get an easy skull win and make quick work of him and jay took him out which is size wise wild for people. Don't know what. Jay and c t look like david and goliath story. Sure the aaron judge verse. Jose altuve picture. Of course everyone will understand Rbis thinking like a bag of flour and a toothpick. Is that moreland well. But like but but no. But i mean so j. I think is really gassed up by that. But like there's a real any given sunday hype deal with the challenge. Where at any time. Your favourite could go out. So i worry rav about you committing and hitching your wagon to just two people because they could be gone the first two weeks but i would love to be able to watch the show and say you know that's my guy that's my gal pitch leroy and cam to you. As a pair of people you might consider let me offer them for emission. So leeann camera really interesting. Pairing we one of key minions bananas being the guy who's not back anymore so leroy is really except that really cam is here in the spot of bananas. Cam is someone who has argued one. Who is one of the most successful crossovers the challenge. She goes by killa cam. Clean cam all-south given nicknames but they really fit in the trailer she says. Killa cam activated which is one of the most the coolest things you could possibly say and from. She is a monster strategist. She's a great competitor. She's really fun to watch. She is one of the best all around. We often talk about the maybe. This is a brian original the ito ven diagram between drama an athlete and the perfect challenger somewhere in the middle of. That's really cam and cameron. Leroy had sort of an on again off again story and they are so on friends. They're moving to texas together. They are like wife'd up husband like that. Why not is it schwanke. No roy you know. They're cool. They're the couple of you. Wanna be there like the wall. Their relationship goals day. Our relationship goals. Right here's why lear. Nobody wants to win a challenge. More than lear. I number challenges this for him brian. That's eighteen hundred and he never wins. He comes so close. He makes bone headed decisions. Or it's just. He misses the mark until like maybe cam helping him like finally what he needs to get to the finish and he has announced that. This is last season of the challenge. Another retirement. i'm on how. Do you wanna root for anyone out a more in on cam. So i could say that's a good. That's perfectly perfectly good reason. I give someone else to submit for consideration. Eighty took lever. Because he's he would be the top pick for me also for every kind of you. But i think it'd be funny if he does. I just went off just pure photos. And then we could revisit. You want to talk white. So i picked the to these photos. Be let me let me know if this is to be interesting gironde. Anyway you tell. Can you tell me a little bit about big t. That's great check so big teed had to lead. This is all you need to know about her. She had to leave last season because she cut open her. Big toe on t. Just happy coincidence that the bigger curto so no one really knows how she. It's become a great mystery. I feel like the shell all of a sudden she's just busted its own and leave very big underdog small but mighty not gonna win very very very very small chance. You'll actually win so be fun to for along the line. Everyone loves big t but she's not a competitor but everybody loves she's america's sweetheart but she's from the uk but she is america's sweetheart. What about mekki meech meanchey. One thing is we're not she at. Hi checks on the beach and you hear that his name as msci not e mec. Yeah all right well. We could take that up with him. Probably i think one thing to say big t. Because i doubt we're gonna talk about live here. I don't know anything about live. i do know that. Big t and live on their show. You know the u. k. classic shipwrecked that they had drama. So we'll see if anything happens with big t there for big on the beach fan. That's where jay sort of really knew the transition for natalie for not needing a test run show on the move to write up but me. She was there and a lot of the people in these first impression videos. Mtv announced that what released are like. Oh meetings just a flurry. He's just here to hook up. He's definitely more again in the ven diagram of a party. Drama real world type guy. I'm excited for that. You need that. I'm looking looking you. That's not your guy but that's sort of like you know. We have a lot of women in the house. Make a lot of weird decisions. And i feel like a naughty in msci thing is on its way maybe even like a nissan meet like a corey way is on its way so i'm excited for msci but not in here. Leo brian. good no. He's i know as much as you could go with that. He's a former professional wrestler. You honestly rob we defer to you on how you think a. Wwe person will do in the challenge drama athlete the midst of this world right act on the other way. Yeah yeah ms okay. Let me see what about gabby gabby from lavar island uk. And i think gabby is going to be pretty underestimated. She actually might be a good pick. She everyone loved her in the house. I'm violent She's very sweet. She's also a former professional dancer so she's got sort of that athletic ability and i think she might be underestimated so that's actually not a bad pick worried about someone who has a high chance of going out. I think she's up. There is a good chance of going out. I as a rookie intimidated. What you talk about. She she tossed into the into the nba chuck out. What about in the call. what about nicole. He the call most nicole's of she's so chief is the from the typical. We're worlds easy. He had a couple of good showings on a challenge nearly winning she was very highly anticipated when she came on so i think she's a good pick the report. She's an interesting character. she's not what she starts speaking. She's not at all what she kinda like. She's very very hard to hear. That kind of makes it interesting. But she gets in the mixture. I'm looking up with girls. Left it right which makes an interesting. Well yoga yeah. She's in a relationship now from exxon. The beach again. Exit is really required watching guys and the like exxon. The beach h. i. Podcasts ex on the beach no. Brian doesn't watch ex on the beach. Go watch again updates. When time i'd give updates on the challenge i try. Maybe it should be my my new show. Not a great collision show to produce during the pandemic. Isn't it the same as this. Have you go through quarantine. i mean everybody. Everybody's good. I don't know i mean the the challenge is a real darling for mtv. I don't know how well on the beach does but but nicole actually like is fully in a committed relationship but that doesn't always go first. We'll see how that happens but a kohl's got that like thick as a boston accent. But it's new york right so you know. She's fish sheet what's interesting. She used to be the like premier physical female specimen but now the done such a good job casting athletic women that she sort of like middle of the road like even she'll be afraid to go against atalay which is so funny because she used to be like the most horrible thing. Physical and according to the sun in the uk ex on the beach will return in twenty twenty one in columbia as a uk ex on the beach it started in the uk. Man showers appointment really hurts. It hurts to see you hurting so yes seriously. Because we don't cover it right. I mean stop stop Screaming that there are gaps in our. This could be my net. My next thing. I cover it sufficiently in three sentences every week the challenger out the winner of the battle. Royale mixup has the cover. Excellent one pot. Didn't we do a podcast on on the beach brian. We tried to canoe strong. And i you know my god who did that with us. it was been all three obviously. Okay we'll see we'll see if it comes back. I contacted tips. Okay are any other potential. Picks for my guys and my gals. Are you looking for someone who could win. I toss corey in the mix of someone threw for. He's gotta over foreign bad boy. He's kids now but he's really committed to me is with now nearly one last season. So he's he's he showed me. You can get right there. I think he's got a very good relationship with nelson who i'd also but in the mix is one of my favorite people that you can kind of root for you want kind of causes all up but a- think cory will be a really fun the report. I think you've got a very good chance of winning. So i think he would be a good one to put your stamp behind okay. You'd have to get behind my stamp though. Because i've been on. I've been knew about corey. I very creepy follow his whole family. He's got two kids with two different women from the challenge world. The and he's got taylor's pregnant again. That's like breaking news. Third one on the way i don't know if he knew about it when he was on the show. We'll see but there's an adorable family dynamic the kid riders so freaky you so and their teen mom now. So they're really he's mr. mtv and he's got a michigan tattoos so go blue. Is there anybody that you to really dislike. Is there anybody that's like. The person comes on the screen like oh we. We both hate this person car. Maria talk just a general john on. I don't think so. I hear she's lovely by the way i think you're i think here's something interesting. Tori deal is someone we should probably talk about. Tori is another sort of challenge darling. But she was until recently engaged. And this might be breaking. News to people aren't like all over challenged stuff everywhere. She was engaged to one of the bigger villains of the franchise jordan until like two weeks ago and they were very intertwined. They were sort of that annoying. Couple where everybody was like annoyed with jordan. All the time and tori was always making excuses for him too. She comes on this season in a difficult place in relation and he is not on the show. I think he has like two season or three season penalty for some horribly racist comments in situations. He got into on his season of the railroad. So she comes on without him and she leaves and their engagements over. So i think tori is going to be sort of in a negative place. That's just my prediction. We're relying no. I like tori. I don't know that she's going to be the best version of herself. If i'm out what's her deal enough. That's a no nam nam nam. Coming in fresh. I mean he's a he's a rookie. I mean with the we might see some good stuff from him. You know coming over from ultimate be semester ultimate master. What the hell is that. Your guess again is as good as mine But goalie physical specimen bid. So he be able to do pretty well. I think it'd be trailer. I think i'd be saying like flips people. We cap ultimate. Beat master. honestly rob you said. You're you're always and you're always listening to podcasts. I can't believe you haven't caught a mine and alexander chester's coverage of ultimate beach nassar. Weekly howe dairy ch. I think all these masters seems like it is a american ninja warrior. Knock off. that's on netflix. It's basically it seems like his lava meets american. Ninja warrior is as it sounds. Yeah he's got the he's the natalie upside. i mean. there was a guy named turbo. Who was from like survivor turkey. He like survivor hundred five hundred days. Whatever and he was just a sheer beast and that sort of what phnom potentially brings to the show just like pure fitness pure strength from the videos. I've seen maybe not a ton of personality. Like when you're not gonna show when you're on a show that requires talent and not personality. No offense to survivors. But like i don't know that you're cast on american ninja warrior or show like ultimate peace master. Because you bring the drama. It's just like you know. The guy from america's got talent like you know i think when you when you're on the show that require skill it's like weird to bring you to the challenge and hope that you're gonna pop on screen. We'll see i think he's got a lot of staying power. But i don't know that you're going to be like super thrilled to root for him weekly from an athlete perspective. I think he's a great big a for hated person. Yes let's talk about devon devon actually cause. The biggest rift between me and brian podcast history. I think we haven't had a lot. But i we disagree. He got into a fight with johnny bananas. And i was on devon side and. Brian was on bananas side and it took several weeks to get those. Brian loves johnny bananas. Jeff for johnny banat for him. Yes you should really be drinking from. The manga sent you while i have it. I can get a mug of niece's head. It's actually from the challenge mania. Podcasts merged store. I saw this tweeted out and it was the funniest thing so i just asked brian for address. Just says it's her face with her. Say nope she made a great. These are you'll like a niece as a narrator nieces great narrator for the seats devon devon is short. He's from argue the one and he's like he's intentional. Pro pot stirrer. Someone who's very aware of production. He likes to set up drama and he's very intense and lagana weird about it but he's certainly the closest we have this sort of a hateful villain from you know we don't know they'll make villain but going into it. I think he's sort of the odds on favorite to be the most hateful person. Although i have a soft spot for devon and. We'll always resent brian for that fight. We had like five years ago. Not forgotten about that. That would try to play. Like he's he's like the instigator he tries like west like was the born. He was the first person in the game and debit tried the trying to be like a new version of him so he likes guy in the may select to get under people's skin and stuff like that so he's he's not the biggest physical guy he knows. That's not his fourth as he tries to do other stuff alley is not a fan of devon's no no i. I'm devin defender against brian. It's interesting robin till you said this. Unusually there are people coming in that. You're like oh. I i don't like this person or whatever. Pretty likable cast. I feel like you guys love wes. No not you guys. Go lesson manas. You can't love west so west. See i thought that they were like a know that. Wes and johnny bananas are like Prophet magneto what is your first day. I i guess there the long standing robbery Of the show they go back to the beginning of the show of every season. The they've been on there always going against the last season was a big deal actually started to work together which is like a huge news coming together. Anything can happen. So it'll be interesting now with With that behind him to his own but he he likes kind of playing up evil role amongst the test. People have learned to love him. I think go back. Ten years. People hated west. Now people love okay. So he's a he all but people root for him the lovable all root for him. It's like he's shown necessary to the and he did. He hasn't been on every season but like especially with a crop of newbies. He knows exactly. It's it's really scary. He's like very manipulative. Very smart very strategic and he can sort of see weaknesses he can see people who can be manipulated who will be loyal to him and he knows how to capitalize on it. So if you're a fan of like good strategic gameplay you like good tv rob which i hear you my or do you like west there but isn't a d you know he's a he's a jerk like he he can he obnoxious and unlikable but he makes such good strategic impressive fund moves with a crop of newbies. Like this you know. He's got his work cut out for him. Because when you're playing a game for twenty seasons people is to you. And so the fact that he's still able to sort of like make moves in the game when everybody knows he's a snake and everybody's wise tam. It's incredibly impressive. It's like if boston rob played fifteen seasons instead of four but so we'll see see west could be pretty early out this this season. I don't think it's going to be an easy road. But it'll be fun to watch him but yet he's definitely more on the sort of like villainous side there's west heaven nickname i don't think so. Actually which is kinda surprising. He should yeah. Bananas question as opposed to what's ask what's moving you to ask this. I feel like that any prominent athlete or figure like i feel like has a nickname that people call them by people referred to him as west. Only brian scalise screaming. Ask somewhere. I think so i. I can't think of anything else. Nickname i mean. Even even big t has nickname. Yeah i mean that's a killer cam. Big t- big easy. He's not here anymore. But yeah i mean matt on the gas will come up with a nickname for less as we watch of like that. Is there any sort of a redemption island anticipated for this season of the challenge. So there's been in the past. They have done some variation of bay called damn she'd house one season it was. It was so preposterous. Nearly every three episodes they brought. Actually somebody told me you have to watch episode of paula in the redemption house. Bali got eliminated five times being one us and then made the final. Yeah that's how that's how ridiculous it was. I think for this and it doesn't seem like they've played actually haven't done one of those few now. So hopefully that's been buried They have done some variation of our redemption house at thing battle back in the past. It doesn't seem like they'll they'll deal with this summer. But i mean they pop up randomly throughout the season. So you never really know how. Many episodes is a challenge season. We know the answer to this. This season brian. I was so excited to tell you this so in in the coverage so and maybe we have always known that so he'd run the articles but but like honestly what's funny is brian and i always like it's twenty. Four season episode sometimes like the challenge. Run for five months. Like how long have we been asleep. It's nineteen episodes this season. Which i'm excited about the ain't that maybe is on the high side for its low for the challenges. The challenge will do a super annoying thing from time to time where they'll mess with the format. It's not guaranteed that you're gonna get like a challenge and a tribal council every episode. Like sometimes they'll cut it off in the middle and you'll only get the challenge and then it'll start with the elimination in the next episode. So i'm hoping we don't get a ton of that based on the amount of teams and the amount of episodes but at least we have a target. And you weren't as complain. Every week that we had no idea representing nineteen episodes. That's it. I mean maybe two for the reunion but nineteen right. Now is what scheduled. Wow i mean nine thousand nine weeks from now the world we could be living in europe. Pfizer's yeah that would be That'd be wild. I'm so excited for this upcoming season of the challenge. How can i continue to participate in in the fun you could play in our jerky game. You can you can. You can stay watching it you watch on. Mtv people always are like. I don't have mtv remember watch. I can tell you how to watch the legally. I'm sorry. I haven't i haven't i'm talking to the greater audience. The rob you're the primary audience here. come come join us on the challenge. Perhaps yes on the podcast. If i talk to my people of course if you watch if you watch your welcome non yeah. I didn't know if you're anti guest or some people say look look. We don't need the gas we need just like sticking our flow. I'm anti gas but that doesn't stop us from having guests scheduling scheduling three person. Podcast in the middle of the weekday is extremely iran. You're busy got. I'm the easiest person to schedule every people to deal with all these people who have jobs. No this is the fun part. Said the great sam more reaches out us. What an honor. Yes actually he said robinson if you wanna do a podcast on the challenge to preview. I said we've been expecting you back. But then he's like what your availability is okay. When's rob free. He's he's actually not free at all. I was like okay. We we could talk about this. I said out of what i told him was out when they're available and i'll make it work with what i said we're here this is perfect. This is great you know that. I very glad we're able to to do this. Well is there anything else. I need to know any other curiosities about the challenge. Let's go ahead. Go in with so little expectation that just let the show. Kinda just happened in front of you. Don't try to play a law. We'll try to guess what's going to happen. 'cause sometimes we make job but sometimes they changed the rules in the middle of the show changed things. Go get angry with guys flow. I i play mario party with my kids all the time. So i'm just gonna know like oh i'm doing great. I've got seven stars like now. I don't actually algae another great thing. That's like the true heart of the challenge as as the the cast members. Come and go. Oh well if anyone's intimidated. Maybe i don't know if we've talked too much about people like we know them. Because brian and i have known them basically our whole lives these returning players but mtv fantastic's job at even you all the information you need to know about and just enough if you're confused about devon and wesson corean nelson like bill flash back to show you five seconds that you need to know to understand what's going on to not be afraid to jump in viewer you can come in totally blind a and then teaching lavon has been the host of the challenge for a long time now not the whole time but a long time and it's so great like he has really come into the role he mixes it up with the people but not and mike jeff. Probst way. He really does on thing. There's no other reality. Tv host like him. I don't think he could get any other reality tv hosting jobs. He heckles them when they do poorly. He gently congratulates them when they do. Well it's like getting approval from your dad like he just is show great they use him so well and what i've learned recently because he's starting to do more interviews and be more sort of accessible is like he's really doing it like he comes gave him. He said his first day that gave him like a little script and he just was like whatever and said whatever he wanted and knowing that and watching him. It's so hilarious because it's like knowing that it's coming from his own little like adorable minds. I don't know he you'll know it when you see it. He's really really fantastic for the show. He was bmx so he loves these types of crazy stunts and stuff but when they're when he's talking about the challenges they're going to do what you could just feel the excitement because you know key would love to do that type of stuff and what are the. Most heartwarming moments series is really ever had would say five six seven years ago. E- add a very scary accident where he like billion. I was in a coma very uncertain like for future on show future and when he first came out for the next season the everyone was crying they were getting with standing ovations task. They love him. They really seek his approval and get such a feeling of gratitude when they get it and so shell so. Yeah as alison. He really is the heart of of the shop. Do there. i'm giving you credit. Are we're going to get back to talking challenge with brian alley in just a moment. But first let me take a moment to thank our sponsor i guess those are friends over echelon fit and you know what that means. The first lady of podcasting is here. Nicole sestina nicole. You love a good challenge. I do love. You have called me challenging on many occasions jerry. Very very challenging. Yes yes okay here. Talk about how challenging you are. 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I was like really good but also feel like in the past the challenge but then they're like nighttime they were at a bar and then they were getting wasted at the house and so is that still a big part of the show like it. 'cause that's i feel like. That's like the biggest departure from what goes on survivor. Big brother of like okay. There's a game. There's a physical competitions happening but then and now it's nighttime and everybody is really Trying to think of the right euphemism for this. That's not going to the inappropriate or make alley say okay boomer again beating up the i mean look like yes and that's like when we look at my notes for a challenge episode right. It's usually like recapping crap from last week. Dealing with the fall from ever went home the main challenge the going out and like the how they decide who goes to eliminate the going out seeing and the elimination like that is a staple of the The classic arc of the challenge. You get one club. Seen every episode what. There has been a big departure from like. If you haven't watched the challenge in fifteen years. It definitely was a lot. Sloppier back in The the career challenge folks. Like you're not gonna see wes looking like he's married. He's here for his career. Like this is a job seat. Same thing corey thing. They'll still party. But no i mean they go and they're sort of using it to politics because what's really crazy is. The elimination seen has just been set. And then they have to go to the club and so they're having strategic conversations while drinking and yes the and i think that's why they keep bringing in younger blood like both amberg and like all these like need chee. People still are here to party. So there's i think a healthy balance where it brings in if you like the bachelor ex on the beach like there's that kind of drama. The main show is the strategy. Is you need the new people who are going to come in and be fools. Nba and while the old k. g. are sitting there drinking water. Yeah no actually. That's really been the biggest evolution of the show. You go back as i said fifteen years. You know the challenges they're doing. They're like getting undressed and try to melt. The nice blocked their bodies. Now there were basically running triathlons to try to thrive when the show. So it's kind of shifted sometimes people it's gonna shifted too far to the challenge direction. Not as much of the direction. So i think they sometimes try to struggle with that bounds but there is still going out the hooking up and stuff like that which leads to some of the decisions that not only affect this benefactor user. Sees as well okay. The last challenge season that you covered is it considered to be a great good mediocre average. Bad if you think. I remember the last season brian. What remind me what did we think it was very good very good. Be plus and minus. I feel like we landed. I think very season. We the twist with the skulls. Kinda little flap overall was it was good. Good finale good winners okay. Anything else that we should talk. Actually could you give me a lolo jones for sort of like lowell. Jones's here is is she good. Tv crazy about jones is much. Apparently she came back from the challenge and then like qualified for the bobsled olympic team. Does paula california are doing it. So like she like is such an incredible athlete but she was like on the challenge. She'll like workout and they take their like physical fitness very seriously. It's not impossible. I mean what's his name ryan locked. He trained for the olympics. Big brother right so but but like the fact that she like just like show up and then dislike walk onto the. Us bobsled team is such a testament to her physical abilities. So i don't wanna like laugh at. How crazy she can be on television. And let that go by the wayside that she's looking credible olympian but yes. She's absolutely insane. You use our rob you know. She's intense she's intense which is great because what but brian brab but bravo saying what. Brian is saying rob cost. I i do. I do worry that. The challenge is going too far to the athletic. The fifth major sport thing but brings up like bringing on an olympian is absurd like what is an olympian competing against both ambers. Like that's wild but because low low has that sort of reality tv great crazy quality. I'm not mad about it. I think it's ridiculous that she's there but i'm not mad. I don't know brian how you feel phenomena very sad. I think it's crazy to put her up against and see how some other really strong female competitors do. We think you know. There's so many people think they are really great put up against an olympian and they they beat them. Maybe not bagel be themselves. Okay i wanna walk away from this with an official my guy in my gal i feel like a big t. My gal she was in the running cam cam. I t's strong big campsite tune of two gals. Know my guy. Allison for the challenge. Not a bad if you wanna get cancelled. It's not a bad way to go because the guys are causing problems guys. A couple of years be cancelled. These are good guys though. He's a guy who's your guy rob. You read the rules jessica. I can if i can have three. This is your first lesson and watching the challenge. The rules are made up Let me see you tell me about nam. One more time the time is up you choose now. These master knows boring pointed any I don't wanna. I don't wanna couple so we talk about kyle kind of like that He looks like looks like the bad guys on. It's always sunny in philadelphia. Yeah that's right. Hey let's just omit kyle. A bring tile wins the season this is gonna get clipped and played back to me like three. Yeah yeah boy it's going to be. It's going to be tough. I don. I don't have a go-to guy. Only two girls monster premier that picked the guy. We talked about joseph. He's going to go. The america's got talent guy always america's got talent. What did he do. That was that was a hebron. He's a singer. Nobody has any even in the first guy. This guy what are you. Why are you here. Because i i would identify with that. The first impressions literally all they say about joseph is like what have no understanding of what he's doing there. Yeah okay all right. We got the singer. Yes okay all right. I will go with a camp joseph. That's my team. So one thing else. I think we should talk about is why not. Only you should watch the challenge but that you should listen to the companion podcasts. The challenge cups during point maybe critical to discuss. Yes why should we listen to it because we watched the show. Don't we know everything we need to know. After we watched the show why we listen to a podcast. Also i mean do you not not love are. Are you not entertained. Like have you not love of of me brian. I mean yeah. You're preaching to the choir. Our into this can turn off. I don't know brian. I'd love to hear what you think. People should listen to the guests. I assume anyone is probably for you. I'm just kind of this is do you watch your show. And then we make a podcast. No i think. I think some fun question. The format is so. This is like we're six and a half years in brian. I'll make a lot of promises that we will not keep you but we re park is being. But that's that's gonna be pushed off. I think at this point we're doing it at seven knots with that but look like we have a lot of fun. We do a lot of stick. Have a lot of people help us out. We read tweets curated by the great big elisabeth. We play a drinking game. Sometimes i get the urge to do some sort of game. I maybe like once every two seasons. We throw a game together who we don't take show too seriously. We don't take ourselves too seriously. I think that's sort of the energy. We're bringing to the great community of challenge podcasts. And and yet we break it all down. A lot of people say they don't watch the show and they just listened to the podcast but we encourage people to watch the show. Take the journey with us. But if you do miss a couple of things we'll fill you in on what happened. This is where all reality show people are going anyway so you might as well be part of it. Yeah eventually you got to watch to see what your favorite reality tv stars are up to. But also we don't need you don. Listen if you don't want to ramsey's was the most disgusted with the. He's never been on camera. I don't know how to answer that. But that's definitely classic. Yes okay anything else that we should cover in this challenge preview. I mean how you been rob. No i think that's that's all okay. We got off topic now. Are you gonna ambushes ambush. That's it that's it we're done with you this but this is the vibe. I'm getting what are you gonna. I love to shoot the with rob. I'll talk about whatever. Yeah i'm elliot. What else what else is going on you. The new girl old guy. You are covering the fox tv series new girl. I am joaquin winokur. My twitter data kiva winokur through each episode of new girl. I've seen that like twenty times. He's never seen it. And it's a fun dynamic. We're having brian on this week warning that tamara love that synergy. My right was planned. Yeah so would you keep twitch. Akiva said you didn't plan that like okay. Thanks for having faith in my abilities We have a lot of fun that podcasts always. Great to talk to akiva. I have been on my dream. One day is to just have all of my content behind a paywall that i don't see any money for so i am a guest on thirty. Two fans patron podcasts. If you become a patient of thirty two fans we talk about. We are going through alexander. Chester made a list of top. Like eight hundred loads because he read every script seinfeld. because he's an absolute addict. And jared jerome. And i threw and axing all of the quotes and making fun of him for having even suggested that To one day. I guess pick the best line from seinfeld's that's a great use of my time and then i was on as you were talking about earlier. I was on with the great josh. Wigley on the show recaps patriot on talking about the movie clue so one day. Maybe we'll get the challenge Recap behind a paywall. To and then i can be completely exclusive which is my goal And then and then yeah we're doing. Ngo g every week on anchor dot fm slash new girl. Old guy and john vary around also tearless. This tuesday would zan rickie lee. You want to hear the suggestions i gave him. He ended up picking sitcom characters But i submitted you'll like this. Well he said it could go into another episode if it needs to. I mean i was gonna say just gatorade flavors but that's somehow seemed broader than sitcom characters. I said reality shows episodes of her nap sitcom characters. Mtv shows tv networks issue are now that'll go over. Well well there's only one tier everybody else is now audio. Only podcast alley. They felt they felt they felt it. Okay so we'll we'll check. I mean you go into a tier list of greatest sitcom characters with like. I feel like aval list of hundred coming in. what am i doing. Go please listen. Twenty people like do the thing. It'll be fun us appeals. He will the top twenty eight. So we we're going to go in with a twenty or thirty percent list and it just for fun. I was also on kickball. Friends rank tier listing. They ripped off. Julia new girl characters show basically. I'm completely overexposed. I'm exhausted. And i can't wait to just go back to two podcasts. Although i told i threatened to take a yacht as from new girl old guy for the challenge. 'cause the idea of having to a week again is giving me anxiety. Yes what will akiva have to have a fill in host for you or the the the the it'll be the end of season one. I mean akiva akiva keeps the. Brian knows i threatened to quit every week. And the brian mckeever keep keep showing up. I'll be there. But i'll threaten to quick. I got it okay. All right brian coen. What's what's next for you your question. I don't know this year hill. Basically what is one every hill about. Let me like dawson's creek baths. It's it's an iconic show that i'm so jealous that was part of previously about like that. I'm able to watch now. It's like one tree hill premiered on the wb in two thousand and three. It's a much more dramatize. Friday night lights i would say oh is. It centered around high school basketball beginning. And but it's a lot more into the drama. Then friday night lights was but a couple of the characters are great Stand brooke davis where it's on neff hulu watching on hulu in the fall season. Three episode seven hundred. Ninety about that is congested. That goes. We'll discuss the next week for that one teacher nap. I mean. nobody's anybody who cared only about the john's turn this off all right. Great time so show akiva not to step on your bryant. He is a prolific one tree. Hill tweeter. you should check that out at cohen. Brian underscore heritage twitter. Handle a great content You you akiva. I jokingly pitched that the table read should be an performer episode of her nap as a joke. He never mentioned that to you i was. I don't care that was a joke. Then he ran. The saved by the bell. Thing by me and i was like. Oh that's the show that's clearly the show you should do. Whatever i also pitched another idea which i'm going to pitch you directly. Did televise going over his head And he was like yeah. I pitched your idea the table. Read of their nap. Episode wasn't very dear. I whatever so. It's like it goes through him. I i was like you know what i'm going over your head. Forget it. I wanna plug this idea but also people should check this out. Have you seen that adam pally. I'm a known. Adam pally stan from that's new girl old guy cannon and he's been doing twitch dreams of paul scheer where they workshop people's draft tweets. It's a great. It's incredible content like it's an hour of them going through their own twitter drafts and basically punching up people's jokes. And i really only watching. It was like robin akiva could really rip this off and i think a great job with it and it was. And then they were sending the tweets out live and like talking about how it was going like following it and who liked it and whatever. So i recommend if you don't do that on the podcasts that you check out this twitch stream because it was a great our of sounds very fun that do a lot of people like i said this is a very like a comedian thing to have a ton of tweets that are in draft that they have not send out the average normal person have a lot of like joke. Premises in their twitter drafts. I have been known to save a few drafts and especially when like the political climate is worse. And you like don't to be tweeting out jokes but you like think of something. I've liked drafted some things. I figured you and akiva might have some things or maybe. Maybe it's something where you see if there are some missions and then you see if there's anything good from submissions. But they were not just doing it with comedians like they were just doing it with people who follow them but you know strongest ideas probably like a nice middle of the road you in akiva like shooting shit up so yeah i do like the people have ideas for jokes. They wanna make on twitter and we punch them up. Its or sometimes they'd be like what's this is great and i feel like rob you'll agree with this. Like adam. pelech. Whole philosophy is there are jokes and there are just thoughts. And you shouldn't just be tweeting every thought that you have. I'm very guilty of that. There were some things that would come in this a thought. Good don't tweet. What kind of understand fleets that's like okay bloomberg for me what the fleets okay fleets. Our okay boomer. no no. i'm the boomer on saying okay boomer to myself because i don't understand fleets okay. But so that's back you know akiba's just sending shillong you but not sending what is at least a laughable idea. No i do. I like that idea. I were like i would say if this was up i would say. Let's see if people like right in and see if they have like a bunch of premises that they want us to turn into like we have. We have the fodder to do that. It's more a complimentary because as well as two great comedians. I was like robin. I feel like would be very funny doing this. Also very good at taking other people's trash and making it a treasure should watch the. It's on adam. Paul scheer from from the league and from. How did this get made he. He is on his to stream Okay i would like to check that out anyway. So i'll check that out. Maybe we have. Maybe we have recommendation okay. Brian cohen at cohen. Brian underscore is there. A lot of traction on your one tree hill tweets i. It's like the same core of like ten to fifteen people that in very much enjoyed. And i love those people for it and do they respond. Please do a rewatch podcast. No haven't had the accident. The tweets a lot of. What should it be called. The ones reopen three pod. We could do better than that. Some of the tree. Larry i think brandon. I love a core. Worried is the john's we love just like a tight loyal audience. That doesn't isn't rude to us and is enthusiastic. And that's what the little challenger half of family is so it doesn't surprise me that brian has developed that same following around the time. It's not tweeting about a show. Seventeen years old like i don't be more people in my life. No more anti people at the challenge. I get it. I get it all right. Well we look forward to the first episode of challenge coming up on a wednesday night When did the podcast out well. They're actually just quick bugs that monday for new people. There's going to be like a meet. The cast monday night special. So if you again feel like you need more background content. That's available to you. the podcast. We usually comes out like thursday overnight to friday morning. we'll rook amtra record thursday's or sometimes after the episode wednesday and then it come comes. It'll be worth all right to subscribe to the challenge. Hap- guess feet What is the podcast. Link rob's website dot com slash challenge. Itn's okay all right. And you subscribe to our hap- feed you'll get it. All at robins website com slash ups. We've got a lot coming up this week on Rob has a podcast including that. I am. let's listen to this on our ninety day fiance's up podcast who is ambiguously is So so kinds of allow me to sleep on his Podcast couches. i'm going to cover this season of ninety day. Fiance with puja. Show join the challenge becoming. Maybe maybe one day we will have the first episode of ninety day. Fiance's season eight coming up on. Rob has a podcast very excited to dive into that and much more including talking with t. Bird we had a great conversation. And we've got another great one coming up this week. I mean how can you do anything but stand and everything. She's a part of. Yeah she got a lock going on. She's worked very hard on the podcast. Got like a nine hundred day from tibor. What about voice getting keyboard on voice. She doesn't do voice mode she does. She does like text. Text. text animated. Gif never called me. i've gotten voicemails from a flex t-bird sweet lady anything else that we want to say. Well we're here. And we commit to getting one tree hill with brian and the fishbowl. I feel like you dodged it and twice that is i would do anything. That's not true. A third no a third. I can't authorize it without kiva being. I'll get i'll get shot in the line if a kid says he's okay with rights over his head for the record season. Episodes service is great episode. They do fantasy boy. Drafter schiller's do of the basketball team. The who they could date. It's okay all right well put we put robina spot. We'll put akiva tomorrow when we record. Ngo jay and you guys will reconvene. When you do half my prediction was he's say well all right well. Let's let's see a couple of weeks so do you think that he's going to be able to get liezl his way out of this with me on the gas zero chance. I complain next week with her. Nab eilly glade me into this. Why buy go-to move is a stall like okay. 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This Week in Survivor: Survivor 38 Finale with Andrea Boehlke

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This Week in Survivor: Survivor 38 Finale with Andrea Boehlke

"Uh-huh. Talk about. Take a quiz. So we can. The smartest army entities. This. You are. Yes. That's right season finale of this week in survivor, and we have got a good one. And we talked about our big surprise guests coming on for this week and survivor. And here he is Jordan Kayla. Yes, this is everyone was waiting to hear for. I mean, I'm not sure how big of a prize me being on twitch is or twists but yeah, I'm here. Okay. Just just kidding. Everybody. We got you are big surprise guest. We're very excited to talk to this three time survivor legend. Of course you can catch her all the time on people dot com. And then, of course, former miss survivor. Please welcome the great. Andrea belt gay. Hello, my gosh. I forgot about Mr. -vivor. It's been years since you've done, Mr. -vivor. I know I know that was different era. Andrea so excited to have you back here to talk about the finale of survivor on this week in survivor. And I didn't realize that you in Jordan Kayla were so tight. Well we are now because he played a fan survivor game. What are you doing playing fans? Saviour games. Rob, it, it was one of the best days of life. Playing survivor. So it's my third sand survivor game, the first one I played, I actually played with Zeke and with Sophie so that was a Sikh. I'd actually like, I think some people know this, but economic knew each other before he's Brooklyn. Yes. Yes. I want survivor Brooklyn and I had found, I think two or three idols blindsided so fi. It was it was it was an amazing moment. So then I played another one, and then played this one with Jordan, and it's so fun. Yes. Okay. Well area, we're very excited to have you here Jordan reached out and said that you said, yes, but you had been drinking. We weren't sure if it was a real thing. But here you are very excited. And andrea. Let me say happy birthday to you that you had a big birthday this past week. I dad, I turned thirty which is pretty crazy. You know what it is crazy, because that I can't believe that I feel like that. I've known you forever. And you're only now thirty I really thought I was older. I didn't really think about it. Yeah. I mean you were just such a baby when you played survivor. I mean, this is we're nine years into the podcast. And you're right. I think of you as one of the first people who was on the show that would come on and do the podcast. And that was so long ago. So I mean it's, it's while that you were you twenty one when you played yes twenty one my first season but actually it's funny that you say that because a lot of people that know me from survivor, always think I'm older, our surprise. They say wait, you're only thirty because yeah, I was only twenty one and then my second season, I was only twenty three which when you're thirty that seems like a child, and, of course, Andrea has so much going on with the people show that inter you're the example somebody gave to me recently as well. It's not like anybody does anything in their career from being on survivor. Anymore real only Andrea. Oh like that. Who is that, that was my friend, Akiva said. I mean I I'm very grateful and lucky that have gotten this people job. And it's been really fun. I mean have been there almost four years. So I'm kind of having a blast with it. Funny, I will say this because you see a lot of people go on survivor. And then they try to do acting and hosting and it's really, really hard to break into that, especially after doing reality TV, but my vice everyone is just go for it because I did when I put out my hosting real and I was bad. When I first started I wasn't great. I had people make fun of me from the survivor community and at Sieben fish back, actually. Did he say? So he tweeted at me that was the time, where everyone was so mad at me for boating out Francesca. The second time really mean to be on Twitter. I've won everyone back now Stephen had said something, where he's basically mocking me for having this hosting real and like, no one cared, and I wasn't going to have a career basically, and it's funny because I screen shot of that. And give him a hard time about it. Was now that you tried crushing my dreams. And I'm having a good old time. Really the biggest support of anyone who goes after, you know, hosting acting, whatever you wanna do. Because great stories you should tweet him and give him shit about the power phrase podcast. I wouldn't do that. But it's funny. Rates for people. And he was making fun of me. And now we're basically co workers his boss. Yeah. If you wanted to write you could cancel the Stephen blog like that. Right. One plane I had access to people magazine's Twitter. I mean I could if I wanted to. Okay, adria. So I'm so excited to get to talk to you, because I knew you were coming on. But then eight dawn on me as we got towards this finale that, you know, once upon a time way back when you actually played in a season where people got voted out and then were brought back into the game. And amazingly enough that you yourself were in the Chris Underwood position. And came back, you were voted out and you came back into the game at the start of a survivor finales, and maybe there, some alternate universe, where you were the first Chris Underwood. Yeah. Everyone's favorite season redemption island. And there wasn't Underwood on your season. Yeah. The thing I didn't get an idol when I came back. So. To help to yes. Because I really benefited obviously from Rhode Island as a player. A twist like edge of extinction. Redemption island is the best you kidding me. Another shot at the game. And I probably wouldn't have gone on to play two more seasons. If it wasn't for redemption island. Honestly, because no one would have really remembered me. But that yeah, I was able to save face and come back and try to take out rob. So I don't know. There's a part of me. I wasn't crazy about the twist. But then there's a pardon me that thinks Chris was deserving because I could see myself in his shoes, I would want that if I came back from trial, and people to respect that came back. However, the differences, I was went to redemption island was only there for two days and then got right back in the game, but Chris was at extension for a long time. Did boston. Rob really have it right? The first time around that. Hey, whoever comes back. They are getting voted right back out or was it that Chris was so spectacular when he came back and was able to get through that I vote I don't know why didn't vote him out. That was really, really confusing 'cause that was the right where he got Lauren to give her. That was very impressive. He was able to do that. Because I like Lauren but I don't know what she was thinking, right. She voted him off right away. Absolutely. Yes. She realized right after that it was a move, but he came back with all this information of what people were thinking and I'm interested to know that did you come back in redemption island with armed with? Okay, I have all this information. This is what Ralph is telling me, this is what Mike chisel is saying on, on redemption island. I did that. I did the same thing I went to badly, and Ashley and it said, hey, everyone is going to vote for rob to win. Absolutely. I know you guys think that you can beat them because he's played before but everyone is gonna vote for up to win. So that was my play. And I went to every person and tried it. But man it was that was a hard season because everyone is so wraps around rob a lot of people didn't see it until they went to redemption island. So I went in kind. With the same thing and I was like, yeah, you guys are gonna lose to him thought him out to thing is that the thing I didn't know rob had an idol. So even if they would've went with me, he was gonna play that item all new. They decide is looks like loser. And you never you'd ever told Boston RAV Mike chisel said that you need to Boston. You need to make a big move and player idol on me in order to win this game. You know, you never thought say that to him, they can't leave that worked tonight all, so I didn't know that. I think with rob. I mean, what was I going to tell rob? Yeah. Everyone says they're gonna vote for fill up. Could've been. Yeah, exactly. There was really no play with broad. But I was trying to get everyone to come with me about him off, but the ad they weren't really having it, it was rough drew while we're down this rabbit hole of this alternate universe. So if you if you did come back in win survivor, redemption island. How would this finale have been received you think that, that life would be easier for Chris Underwood had you already broken that barrier? Oh, interesting. Well, again, the biggest difference was, I was only should island for like three days. Like I got right back in. So it becomes similar to if Rura got back in and she won I don't think anyone would bat an eye at Aurora winning because you just watched her play the entire time, you know. But, I mean it's possible that people would be a little more giving to Chris's win happened before. We haven't gotten your reaction to the Chris win, which has been, I would say polarizing, but I don't know if there's that many people that are pounding the table shouting that I love it. Yeah. I don't love it. I wasn't. I was not stoked about it. I also really wanted someone like Victoria, or Lawrence win a no. I shouldn't refer someone just because they're a woman, but last time woman, one was Sarah, and I've been really happy that survivors, been casting strong women because back in the day, especially when I played survivor twenty one you're still getting the bikini babes that never watched survivor like now. They're casting strong. Interesting women toria. I was obsessed with her so watching the finale when Victoria land. I was crushed. And then I was like, all right. Loren Loren went I was like, oh, my gosh. My soul is dying. A menu are laughs, when Chris Lana, like no, this is not good. However, with a few days after I started come around to it. I also skied with Chris for people TV sweetheart. He's, he's awesome, dude. Like it's nothing against it. It was more despite theme. And I know seem should be on trial. But it was more that is just hard to accept it. But with the days he was in he killed it. He really did. I mean getting more into give up that idol huge move Gavin. Didn't have a move like that. And then doing the fire against Devon's huge move so heated more in those thirteen days. He played survivor than the other two people. He was sitting again. So in that situation, I was happy that he wants because he actually had these moves in really came to play in the final days. Did you feel like that the final challenge to get back from the edge of extinction was to physical where we saw the challenge that you one in redemption island and South Pacific, and even blood versus water that the, the challenge is to get back into the game were more of an endurance competition, which was maybe more of an even playing field than this one, which was? Kind of physical, it's tricky, though, because the physical website, this are usually easier for the guys, right? The balance endurance, or lot easier for the girls so own that I one coming in from tonight island, right? Hold my leg up. I think it is just easier because I'm not as heavy. I don't know. I mean, I'm also really good at balancing, so I would have liked to see endurance challenge. But this one ending with table maze that it take it takes skill. But it also takes a lot of focus, so I wasn't mad about it. I was okay with it. You also mentioned about how that you rooting for a Victoria, or a Lauren, and the last woman to win the show was Sarah, also coincidentally in season. Five was when they instituted the the final four fire making challenge. Do you feel like that there is some correlation between those two pieces of information? Yeah. I mean, maybe I would have to be reminded who did a lot of women lose that fire challenge going in a Williams. Never won the final four fire making challenge yet. Yeah. I mean, I think just with how people are raised in guys are usually better at fire, because it goes back, and you guys are more likely to learn how to make fire. Maybe However, I would say if you're a man or a woman now trying to apply for survivor that has to be up there with things that you have to learn how to do. Right. Well, hey I couldn't do it. Could you make a fire in or are you good at that? Yeah, I definitely need to go back because then any woman would beat me in the final four fire making challenge. Well, it's one of those things that I prepare for survivor, I go all in a usually how I don't know the times I've played ahead of few months to get ready. So I mean I'm working on everything. And if any. Human would beat me. Woman or man. What about Beckham Sandro beating you in the fire making challenge? I probably yeah. It's not hard to learn. If you have even a couple of weeks to prepare for survivor. All you do is practice. It's not that hard to make a fire. It's a selling point. I think for me. I think I have a better chance of somebody saying, you know, let me just take rob to the to the finals because I know he has no shot at making the, the fire making as opposed to we can't put him in there to beat the person we really need to be, but you can prepare and no. Oh. Realize you can just learn how to chew milk maker that makes me threat then Andrea, if I know how to do it. You pretend that you don't know percentage. He makes. I've never tried it before. I, I mean, I think if I watched the YouTube video and got the stuff I could probably learn how, but I've never really been in the situation where I've needed to. Yeah. They don't do there's no there's no there's no buyer and fakes. I don't think we're allowed to like build fires in the park like we can't do that. We shed me too. I agree. I think that'd be fun next next game next. We'll tell George yesterday fire making challenge. We're just the host. He's, he's the Jeff probes of survivor Brooklyn, south who is George whose George George Nicolaas is the host. All right. We're in the weeds. I know says. Okay. Going going back into survivor history, though. Yeah. A woman has in beaten a man in the in the final four fire making challenge and I'm not a fan of it. I wish they would actually get rid of the final four fire making challenge. But you still have incidence of, you know, Stephanie beat Bobby, John, Rodney will lost Caroline. So it could happen. I think the better argument is that it just takes strategy away from the game that it's that, like helps men over women because I think you can definitely beat a male virus. John, sure I, I, maybe I'm being over confident, but I feel like I would win fire making challenge women that can make fire. I don't I'm not a huge fan of that, either though, I rather be more strategy involves, but it was such a moment. I was cheering up when Devon's lost that challenge. And I was even the biggest seven fan but seeing the flames, right? And it was almost like you could just see his hopes and dreams just completely burning out at that point. So I mean. Adria. Can you compare what redemption island was like versus what it seemed like the edge of extinction was like, well, if the extinction everyone it's kind of nice to each other besides ringing. Lee had some moments, but people are really mean ever them should island. I remember when I first got there, everyone was very mad at me. They hated rob. But they made me Imber Ralph making these sleep on the ground just because you guys had separate shelters right in the actual game. Rob had the Ometepec shelter, and then there was the EPA Tara's were not allowed to sleep in it, right. Yeah. I mean it's embarrassing, I'll ever. That whole thing embarrassing. But that was the reality. We haven't got to redemption island. I did not have a warm reception and wealth may be sleep in the dirt. And it was fine. I mean, everyone is just really bitter but people were not as supportive as Felix edge of extinction. Everyone kind of one big family and they were rooting for the person that got back in because also kind of validates their own experience because they could see themselves in that person's shoes. Right. But redemption island was a little more hostile like everyone. So mean. Do you feel like I'm sorry to stay on the redemption island aspect of it? But I, I am really fascinated about the differences between the two things that had somebody, whether it was you or whether it was mad who came back earlier in the game. If one of redemption, island person would have reached the finals would they have won automatically because they went through the same people that were went on. The jury also went through the redemption island experience. I mean, I think so because Zappa Tara was gonna vote for anyone besides rob except Natalie until. The people that went along with rod the entire time. And I think so it would have been tricky. So let's say it was rob. And that L rod in the end. I don't know what happened there. I probably would have voted for rob think I think the majority of people maybe would've voted for Matt. So it's very possible everyone. Nobody wanted to Bill for rob. So he did take the right to people with him in the end. But I think anyone else makes his own in the final three would've won Al rod probably would would've won. Eight even neat Manoke. I don't know about grant but yeah, definitely possible. My redemption island wonder picked, then we're don't. I've seen people criticize the jury to some degree. Do you feel like that? The jury did a bad job in any way. Andrea. And this situation I don't know, because it's more of how the setup was they got time to bond with Chris, probably really deep level survivors so boring. Most of the time when you're on edge of extinction. It's even more boring. You've nothing to do. You feel like you're dying. You feel like you're going crazy in your bonding with these people. They probably had so many heart to hearts with Chris in thought he was their best friend. So I feel like they were mostly attached to him and had to vote for him. You know, I can't really fault them and Kevin that Gavin didn't really have a good final tribal council. Are you agree that I feel like that Gavin just did not connect with this jury on the level that he needed to? I think that's the problem with this, this twist though. I think the pro you've created a twist where the best argument for someone who doesn't go to the edge of extinctions that you played the whole game. But when you do that, you're insulting the jury who living with the extinction island guy for such a long time. So I really think it's almost Uman nature. For the people on the jury to vote for Chris because they were living with him. He was providing for them. And I think that's the biggest issue here where you have someone who really only played thirteen days of the game. And I will give Chris credit because I think once he came back. He played like a perfect six days of survivor, he didn't well as he could do this isn't Christmas fall at all. Chris did exactly what he should have done once he came back into the game. I just think it's something that, you know, survivor really has to look at this. Do you really want someone in the final three who's been living with the jury and potentially providing for, for them for a month, they do because if they had this twist than producers, and Jeff have to be happy with the winner that comes back because they've imagined that that could happen. So I imagine CBS's stoked about it, right. Which is just crazy. Well. CBS and survivor are two different things. Yeah. I don't know if like the network necessarily loves the outcome where maybe the creative, maybe this was the fulfilment of the theme of the season which was the edge of extinction. I want to know from you Andrea. Do you think that they thought perhaps that the people on the edge of extinction, might not get along as well where we saw ream get into it with people along the way? But for the most part, they wasn't. There wasn't a lot of fighting that went on the edge of extinction where we thought coming into the season, maybe there might be a little bit more like Lord of the flies where trying to make other people quit. But it did seem like, and I watched all the Ponderosa videos today that this group did seem like that they genuinely liked each other on the edge of extinction. Yeah. Well, the other thing is we never saw extinction, so there could have been fighting and they just didn't really show it because they didn't have a lot of time. But I mean you talked to I mean, I'm assuming you talk. A lot of the people and it seems like they did actually get along. Yeah. Maybe there just wasn't very much drama like you thought. For when people came in, and then they got greeted by Riemann, and maybe that was, and we obviously, the best part of. When she was I voted out. I was like, okay I'm not really a huge fan. And then it turned immediately that I was just craving time all the time because full area what? Know what she, she really is Sochi. I got to meet her at the finale, and it was a it was a dream come true. Andrea Rian impressionist pretty spot on. You too. Can you deal? It more. Do you know what that I'm so tired of hearing about how it wasn't hard on the edge of extinction? I was there or thirty four days, bro. Okay. All right. All of this talk is lame. Something that I picked up with the rim to survivor posted those videos of them like reaching into a bowl and like asking questions were submitted by fans. And everyone else was like, this is Chris from survivor edge of extinction. This is Devon's from survivor edge of extinction, Rian pictures up. And this is this is really from the edge of extinction like she is the engine extinctions he's from there, that's where she's from that. She doesn't say that she's from Virginia. She's from the extinction not even survivor edge of extinction, Andrea. I know that you one of your BF apps Aubrey was on this season and was part of this education crew. What did you think about Aubrey this time out? I mean every got dukes, right, binding, adding Davin, and all that are Gavin and all them the thing another thing about as extinction as you see bees, idols viewers, like I love Aubrey Kelly, David and see them at the extinction is just release slow fall from grace. You know because there's just there and it, it it's just rough and you see them all crying, and it's really hard because you put them on a pedestal. So it was hard Aubrey was very emotional. And I, I was kinda bummed with how things went, but it seems like she had a decent experience and has new friends from the situation. I actually have been meeting to catch up with her. So we'll probably gonna talk later this week, but yeah, had a rough going. It. Do you feel like that? If you were to similar situation, would you have enjoyed your time on the edge of extinction? I don't know. I tried to make the most of it. I had a really hard time on game changers, I don't know why I think as I get older. I'm not as bright eyed bushy tails. And so people just get near skin. You're like, why am I here I feel like a loser? So doing tell me about it. You just hear sodas appointed with yourself. And you especially if you go like operated with an idol, I mean, I'm speak from experience. You feel ical loser end to be sitting on the extinction with an idol is Scott to be so rough. Well, which was crazy about this season is I went from the only woman that went home with an idol to now there's three of us, so I could company with Kellyanne Aubrey. That's a really cool sorority. I think a lot of people would wanna be on that mount Rushmore. Yeah, I mean it's easy to give enough in the night all. Yeah. Well, there's so many now now, it's, it's getting easier. Yeah, there's a lot of idols. I there's too many idols and Alvin season is island of idols crane. Yes. Excited, Highland, the vitals, but I'm hoping that it's more of that's word play where people are thinking that it's going to be the. Oh, okay. You go to the island and get the idols, but the you're, you're meeting your idols, Sandra and Boston. Rob. What if Sandra and Boston, Robert actually idols that would be great? You have to bring them to tribal council like you'd have to find a way to get them. There you put them on a boat bus, and rob, might not want to do it. Sandra would only go if you give outback steakhouse or something, I think interesting idol. It is weird. What, what do you think? Andrea. And, and you might say that in some ways that you had Boston rob as saviour teacher once upon a time. Do you like this idea for a new season? Now. Glue to the island old and say, hey, rob thinking voting out this person. What do you think I should do? Who? I don't know. I like it. I think it's I think it's gonna be fun. And I will say that in terms of rob who I've gotten to talk to a lot over over the years that I just think he, he knows so much and just in talking different like survivor things through with him on the podcast. Like he's almost in some ways like a professor talking about survivor. Like, I think there's almost like no situation that he hasn't seen and Sandra. I think, has like a similar knowledge base. So I do think that they're going to be able to, you know, give people some useful information or at least give people a lot to think about in terms of, like should I do this or should I not? Yeah. They're both very entertaining people. I played with both of them. I'm still really tight. With rob. He was in New York was that even though it was actually a year ago, but I hadn't seen him in a long time and we were gonna go get lunch. We ended up day drinking for hours. It was a blast like he's an awesome fun, dude. So I'm like it better that they're mentors not playing. I think it'll be hilarious. They're both so funny. So I it could it could work. Imminent gets you hypes for obviously. And we want to be complemented probably both listening right now. So we wanna be. Sure. Again. I mean I think they're both awesome. And bite the hand the feeds, the I was laughing at the promo, like, what is you didn't like the giant heads? Dr. Funny. I guess the giant giant Chia pets. Andrea, would you come back for a season of survivor where they had a thirty foot high? Andrea ahead. Absolutely. I don't think they're going to invite someone back as a mentor who's been voted off four times you need to come back a fourth time in win. And then a fifth time come back and then you can get thirty foot. Hats guest, absolutely. Just going back to the final four fire making twist now that Chris put himself into the final four fire making you won the immunity put himself into it. He fulfilled the destiny that Dominic Abbad put into the universe year ago, this survivor have any reason to keep the final four fire making has have have we seen basically the ultimate version of it now. And is there any juice left the squeeze from it? I mean I'm kind of over it. I do. I guess, like the the attributes of it. That's the one thing I do. Appreciate again, like the Devon's that was made me cry. But I could lose it. Could you lose it certainly could lose it? I mean, especially this time out Devon's couldn't make the fire. I mean he would have been voted out in that spot. Anyway. So this time around it didn't really change anything. I'm trying to think of last season where Nick won, immunity and then CARA was the person who lost out and sheep that rob ably would have been the person to get voted out in that spot. Anyway. Unless Nick would afflict voted with Karen Angelina. But it seemed like that Nick and Angelina. And Mike were like a set three anyway. So it seems like that the last couple of the person who was going to get voted out ended up losing. Anyway, I do kind of like that they would have been doted off. But had a shot at least to get back in who lost. I think Devon right, Devin law, he lost to them. Oh, yeah. To me dusty. Worsted ration- because. I didn't even know about the twist because there's, there's really no way to plan for it at least now they're all they're all on the same footing where they do know about about the twist. I don't really see any reason for it. I understand like we've lost a lot of good survivor players at the final four. But I mean that's, that's how the game works some of the final three to jewelry that final even more at the vinyl three lose the fire, and I also really would just like the idols to be a little harder to fines. Yeah. I mean I like idols I just think that it seems like they were so easy for dozens. And I wish there was just one more step. Like maybe you find a clue and the clue is up the challenge. The clue is in the middle of camp like another, one in the tree, which was great. I wish there was one more set because it just seemed at that point, it was too easy. I know that it's obviously in the edit as well, but I started to kind of resent the Devon's narrative because it just felt like production was helping them out. But maybe he was the one that was actually going out and searching, the most it was like, okay, let's just one more step in. And then I'll be happy. What I do feel like that, you know, when you're in this position of having your back against the wall, and that's been the case with you know, Ben, as well where that, you know, he had no other option than to find the idols. Whereas when Gavin was asked about it. He said, well, I didn't have to find the idols. I had I had an alliance. So I do think that there is a correlation there between how badly you need the idol, and how much you search for it. But Andrea, let me ask you this. This is an idea that I had floated, which I think the show would ever go for, if a itl is played, successfully on somebody, then there is no idol hidden that round that it's not hidden until after the next travel council. But if it's if it is flushed than the I'll gets hidden after that tribal council. Oh I like it. I mean, anything that has less idle time down with that. I'm like. There so many and it kind of takes away, especially when Chris in Devon's had one I just I just wasn't a fan. I would love to just see there'd be more strategy involved. Devon's had to try to get different alliance going or trick. Somebody in didn't involve always having an idol. The other thing though, is if you know if I did this caramel, but Malcolm needed the idols his back was the wall, like, Devon. I didn't let him out of my sight, your degree point with so confused when eventually the rest of the tribe looked was like searching in trying to prevent Devon's from finding the idol. But if someone needs the idol they're going to be looking for it. You just don't want them out of your sight you puppy guard. It's not that difficult when they wake up, you gotta what else do nothing. There's nothing else to do. So that's why I don't even feel bad for them. The people that voted off because Evanston idle because you should have been following him the entire time wrote because there were. What five of them at that point in time where it would? I think this is at the final six, and they didn't start watching him until after he had already found the idol, and they're they could've taken turns, they can eat taken turns, I comes down to people are tired and lazy because that happened when I thought about gum granted, I was the one that was kind of on the chopping block. If it wasn't if Malcolm did find the idol, so it would have been needs. So I had more obviously invested, but I remember saying to Don and Cochran like, hey, let's go follow him. And Cochran came helped me for like two minutes the mid last. But somebody should've been following the entire time. It's very confusing to me that they wouldn't. Drew was there. Anybody else from this season that made a strong impression on you. I mean, I mentioned already I can't sing your praises enough. I thought Victoria was so fascinating with the wool hat. She was so sneaky. I feel we haven't seen a character Lake Victoria before. Right. So I really, really liked her. A war dog. Oh. I mean I got such a kick out of war dog, and I liked teasing him on Twitter without directly ever tweeting him just asking what a war dog was many times. Cares. What injury Kosovo you're going to be the next plucked? I was so I haven't really liked survivor in a while. But the beginning of the season, I was in on it, and I was actually live tweeting, but my goal is to try to get blocked by him. And so I kept tweeting about what a word allies and you'd never blocked me. I was really bummed about in trying so hard where your own game he did. He somehow got me got me to follow him on Instagram. I was ignoring him. Most the time he posted this really cool picture with Lauren and Kelly. I was like, he's not too bad. Our dog followed him you've played right into his hands. Nobody he was he was a very interesting character. And I love the facial hair. He was really entertaining to watch. What about Ron Clark, did you have a Twitter beef with Ron Clark at one point? Now, I didn't we did. I that I thought that when you were talking about how Aubrey was not having Ron's dancing. I did it. Yeah. I tweeted a video of her dancing saying that Aubrey for something about how she's able to fake this awful dance like she signing five. He said something the he ever exactly what it was. He said, like, oh, I guess you're, you're jealous. No. Because I kill a dance circle. So I would really like that and a rap battle gag. I rap battling and Dan circle. So I have a couple of clips from the episode that I haven't gotten a chance to play. But I wanted to bring them into the podcast that this was such a funny line in the episode. I didn't really get to talk about anywhere. But when Chris comes back from the edge of extinction, and is talking to Lauren about that. How Kelly says you need to play the idol on me, and she's segment, how she doesn't trust Chris. This was Lauren from the finale, it's not so much. If I can trust him does he have better options, dating someone you know, I show the bar. My boyfriend, I see Ryan Reynolds. You shouldn't trust me anymore, day Ryan riddled, I have a chance. You know, first of all. I hope law, Lauren. Either doesn't have a boyfriend where he wasn't watching during the survivor finale. Oh, yeah. If you're dating Laura, and that's the last thing you want to hear prime Reynolds is taken man. He's with lake lively very happy. She leave Ryan Reynolds alone. Is that a very contemporary reference? Ryan Reynolds Lauren, I think is also twenty one. Yeah. I mean Ryan, my nose is a hottie. Do you stand by who's the new, who's the new Ryan Reynolds, who should it be aghast at fron? I think he single right? Yeah. Yeah. Very rentals. Maybe we can take him off because he's definitely a committed relationship. So maybe Zach Ephron. He's gonna leave me on, you know him in. Lauren would be outside of the half your age, plus seven definitely. Yeah. I think he's a little old for Lauren home Reynolds. Do you think that he knew about that? You can't anybody like sent him that clip. I'm curious if he did. He's really funny on social media. So I feel like he would have had fun with that. Have you ever interviewed Ryan Reynolds? No. I haven't okay interview Blake lively though, and I love her a lot. Okay. Okay. Well probably hates Lauren now. Lively, maybe she's never going to bar with Lauren. Well, maybe if he comes through people for detective Pika chew, too. You could ask him if he saw that clip. If anybody sent it to him, really funny funny that she said that, but it's a little obviously cringely if you're a committed relationship, and you're wondering if you're partners feeling the same way. It's very New York dating. Like that's kind of what you deal with ROY Reynolds, Lawrence hall pass apparently. Alright. What watch out? All right. Then this was a clip when I was rewatching the episode that I did not catch the first time around. But when Chris went to go play his real Eitel at the final five that he, he had a turn of phrase that I have not heard often, and this is what Chris told the other players well paint, the on everyone's parade. I totally miss that. I don't think. At the time because I would have been cracking up. Yeah. Well, that's, that's, that's what did you know, obviously, it's rain on my parade. But what else what to phrases was mixing up? Hoon's hoop on on your on your party. Yeah. That's what it is. Yeah. I totally missed that. Eight the on everyone's parade. Terrible visual. Devon's Devon's is the poop like what does that look like that's gusting? I don't know. I don't know. I also like that Jeff Probst got in on the fun with remixes by the end of the season that it, it took them awhile. But he finally got it on how great of a character Remo was. I did favorite word coming into play dude. I think that's the first time he's seen reams since the since when they did the the first challenge to get back into the game. So I guess there really weren't too many opportunities for probes to get in on the dude in the lame probes isn't going out to educate extinction. Do you think that he just heard people talking about how ream says, dude all the time? Yeah. I imagine he sees tapes, right? I imagine, Hugh, maybe from the first edge of extinction challenge that he talked to her then. Yeah, but I think they see footage. I'm imagining that Jeff is seeing, I think the producers see footage, right? All right. Andrea. What did you think of the, the big amount of money that SIA brought to the survivor finale with her the other night, man? Can you imagine having just deciding I'm thinking my favorite characters this much, Honey? Matty's Razi to me, that is so crazy that Devon's got one hundred thousand dollars just for being a good character. That seal likes. Do you think that more celebrities will get in on this game where could Ryan Reynolds come to the finale and say, I'm giving one hundred thousand dollars to my favorite survivor? Lauren. I mean I don't know if other people are going to jump in on it who else like Angelina Jolie. She's apparently of fan writes, last time, I think she was just friends of Mike. Wait, though. Case. Yeah. She was not finale this time out. Rob. I have a question about this. If if RIC Evans is getting one hundred thousand dollars and he's Devon's does the, the young Devon's get a cut of that is there is there, some sort of percentage that goes to young Devon's wants the money. Andrea. Do you find Jordan Kayla to be young? Rick devon's. Oh, is that the comparison, that's yes? When people say people say that I did they say that if we look like I mean, I I've gotten it from multiple people I don't really see it. I do. Love RIC Devon's. He was he was my favorite character of the season. But people people are starting to call the young young Bevan's. I mean yeah. Devon's actual. 'cause he's a really likeable cool guy. And you're, you're going to survivor, Jordan. No rally hit almost. If you're going to go down this rabbit hole. We do this right now. If you talk about a fake survivor. But when you when you talking about people that nobody knows who you're talking about, then you're, you're gonna we're losing people then. Georgia's. After you started talking about George like people know what you're talking about. And. Get us back on so SIA just that's crazy. And then when she gave Rura fifteen thousand. And also Joe to get the fifteen thousand she liked her. And then she. Posture system just feed it. Okay. And it also she gave Joe fifteen thousand dollars to cut his hair, so that he could give it to a cancer charity, but Joe wanted to give the money as he said he would do it, but then, give the money to the cancer charity as well. I mean, that's amazing that joke that yeah. Joe may not be good at survivor, but he's a really great guy. Great guy. I'm shocks that. Wendy didn't get the money because that's so is Wendy. Yeah. She had the whole chicken thing. I thought maybe she was doing the chicken stuff in the beginning for the purpose of getting the money. So, yeah, I guess it doesn't like that. I'll about the chickens anymore. You wonder if people are going to start trying to have better stories to cater to, I don't know. See right through big Wendy. She. Andrea. Do you think that if you ever played again? Could could see maybe give you the CO award. No, I don't. I don't have a story like a Rura or I don't have long jungle hair. Like joe? I don't I don't know that. What is what Rick Devon's was just was a fun. Entertaining player. Yeah. I mean, I guess it depends on the at it right. I think I'm really fun really fun. It just depends on the edit like seasons that got decent edits, but didn't get Rick Devon's at it. You know. Not yet. Okay. Maybe when this new survivor fancies in comes out, maybe maybe she loves survivor so much. She'll she'll watch it. And keep up with George. Andrea, any other thoughts about survivor or anything else going on in your world. I don't know anything where you overall happy with everything this season. You would not say that happy was the right word, but no, I did. I did have fun. And I was there on Wednesday night, and it was a really fun night in terms of the show. I think that this was kind of one of the worst case scenarios when they came up with this idea for for a season but they were playing with fire, but we have to say hopefully, the right lessons were learned from from all this. Yeah. No matter what I always love survivor. So I had a great time watching it. You know, we have thoughts, how is the carpet, I was really bummed. I could make it out. But it was right after my birthday trip in Europe. So that time it was very fun. I really like everybody in this group. And as you mentioned, Chris, I think, is very likable guy. So, you know, had somebody being like a real jerk and then came back and won. Be more annoyed about it. But I really do like this cast. So it was it was a really fun night being there where did you go in Europe, on your trip and London and Dublin and I had a blast Dublin is totally my jam. Yes, I turned thirty in Dublin at an Irish pub with free Jameson shots. Singing, dancing Irishness at honestly, I couldn't have picked about a birthday. That's what I saw the pictures, and you even had Jordan Calif at your thirtieth birthday party this weekend. Now he meant it wasn't him. I missed it. I thought I saw this picture. It was actually written. I was in, in Delaware for my for my friend's wedding who also survivor fan, actually. Okay. Sorry about that Jordan. But he it was it was a bonus it. Okay. Andrea. Of course, how can people keep up with everything that you're doing my show is called people? Now. It's on people dot com. People's Twitter people Facebook stuck at noon eastern time every day, Monday through Friday. Okay. And has Stephen fish back kept up with it. I think he does. He keeps sometimes comments on the different guests that come on your show, different guy. Now, Andrew, you should give him a second chance because he's, he's even he's gone back. He deleted all his old tweets. So that's yes. No. Stephen, I are good is just funny. I tease him about it. It's just hilarious. Because I am someone that uses that as motivation. So honestly, sometimes, I think about that. And I was like that was great motivation going. Thank you, Steve. I'm going to start printing out. Some of my means it's have you ever. What was the meanest thing you've ever tweeted? Have you ever tweeted something that you actually really regretted the meanest thing that I ever tweeted? I really I don't think I have super mean tweets, especially. I think all of my mean tweets are directed to like New York sports personalities. I think that that's really what brings out my my mean side. I don't think I've ever made a super mean tweet in terms of survivor. Maybe maybe a big brother. Maybe maybe brother when I feel like that they're in the house, and they're not they're not going to see it. Yeah. Really dig brother or something that was, moreover something said, yes. That was moreover, something that I said that I. I mean, I really I didn't think I said anything that was that particularly bad. But I had said that there was a show Mance on big brother this past season. And I had said that I thought that they were really boring. And that was very, very big deal. And I learned my lesson, you shouldn't say anybody, you shouldn't say that people are boring, because just because they're boring to me. If you're if they're boring. You should say they're boring. Nope. Nope. You shouldn't. I learned I learned I listen the hard way hates hard. I, I was on your side during this whole thing. It's harder. I imagine us learned that with the last couple years, especially of being careful, not to say anything that would really upset people. But now it's like you can't even say someone is boring without getting haters. Look, you know, it's a it's, it's, it's an interesting bubble because the the the number one audience for everything that we do are the people that are actually on the shelves. That's really the everything gets funneled, eventually to the people that are actually on the show. Yeah, yeah, now I'm thinking I hope I wasn't mean about anybody. I don't think so. No, I was more a little negative about the theme. But I'm I'm pretty happy with all the players. I really enjoyed everybody. Okay. I think you're in a boat with a lot of people on that one. Yeah. I just always be like, yeah, they're great. I loved everything, you know. Yeah. Andrea, can you believe it that we we're coming up on the ten year anniversary of survivor, redemption island pretty soon? We're almost there. Wow. That is really crazy. It is kind of crazy that I kind of like whole twenties respond in survivor land, very kind of grew up like my twenties. I kind of grew up on survivor. Yeah. And I have like. The video footage to prove it like go back and watch on YouTube. And I'm like, oh, that's so cringe. But once you go back and watch on YouTube, sometimes if I'm gonna rabbit hole and I see a clip that pops out or something. And it'll be me on redemption island. I yeah, it's really cringe-worthy though. Just because I feel like I was mislead person are so young. I also cringe when I watched redemption. Krantz. Now, Andrea, your thirties, are going to be spent playing fan made survivor games thirties, are going to be lit. You make fun of it. But it will it would never done one. Do it raw, you'll luggage can show love it honestly, though, like survivor fans with the best and you all have common interests. And the people are so nice, it's, it's really fun. Okay. All right. And sometimes sometimes favorite survivor contestants like get the get devote for you to win and then you still lose I feel the difference between. Meaning Andrew is that I feel like that people would want to hang out with Andrea for the whole day. And I feel like that for the people that are playing like, oh, it'll be so funny. Let's vote. Rob out. I. Well, I think yeah. Maybe I think people do keep me around. They don't wanna see me go pre-marriage, but then it becomes the thing wherever wants to blindside, because then they can say they took out an actual survivor, like Morton Jordan, voted me off hunting. I think it's because he just wanted to be like, you'll have someone those on real survivor, and then I always come back and say, real survivors, different than fake survivor different thing. I'll play ever. I'll play the fan made season but only with people that were actually on survivor. Then it's just by but somebody's backyard. Hole in one day. Yeah. Rob. Who who's on this season with you, are we getting is it going to be like an old school versus new score. You're gonna get like all your friends out to play like like what friends? And yeah. Oh, people, the Amazon. Yeah, sure yeah. Yeah. Read you should do a whole get everyone from survivor, the Amazon, and just replay, it see what happens. Yeah. Let's work on that. Okay. All right. Janet, all of since you, you work on it in the in the summer. Okay. All right. That's my new project. Andrea. Thank you so much. Really appreciate you making time to talk about all of this with us. Yeah. Thanks for having me. It's always such a pleasure. I didn't set this up at the top of the show. But we told that we that Andrea said she would do her or one concession was. She didn't want to have to play the quiz. So we said that that's no problem. That's no problem. We have a pinch quiz for for you in. You just you're the one that said, we're not doing is that I thought that was a condition that you would only come on with us. If you didn't have to play Jordan's quince not a condition, I wouldn't done the quiz. Jordan has it. Rotated. Now. What you told us you told me this. When I asked if you wanted to be on the five guys, I told you what was on the five guys. And you said, I don't wanna do trivia, but I'll do the other stuff. Okay. You also ask me when I was really young. So he's thought you would have to the trivia while you were drunk. I think it was sure what the question was, and I agreed. I know that feeling enjoyed by asking me to know. I survivor game but not in. No, but we scimore and next time you'll do the quiz splits on the shuffleboard table. And I didn't even remember doing that. So that was the state, I was in remember you doing that either actually apparently. When I was gone to that point, is that your thing Andrea because I saw you doing splits in your birthday pictures. I think it's overdone, but so I mean, I haven't gotten any hate messages, yet, like, okay we get it, you like to do the splits. But yeah, it is. The thing I do, especially if I'm drinking I really like doing the splits on the worm. Like I want to start drinking happens. All right, Andrea. Did you lose your record of most votes against in a survivor career this season? Oh, wait. No. That you were that Kelly Wentworth came close all I still have it. I'm looking at this US responded to Jeff Pittman, and you are the all time leader in most votes against with thirty six Kelly went worth has a thirty five after this past season. Yeah, I'm glad I still hold that record because I was really proud of being the only woman that went home with an idol that over. But I still have the most votes against me and history survivor, Josh is really cool. That's that's good vote, people vote for people because are threats. That's what happens. Yeah. So I think you're, you're actually safe, I think Kelly went worth unless she plays again, odd. Z is at thirty four. I don't know if he's playing again. Soon Sierras at thirty two she could play. Again, pens at twenty nine Jerry's at twenty eight Laura Morad is at twenty four Abbes at twenty three Joe's at twenty two. I think that that's the person if anybody was going to break the record I could see being Joe. But usually they get Joe in one shot. So Joe Joe is, is like he'll play two more seasons. And he's like to merge boots away from from having their Eckerd. So that's really I think what you have out for. Good for now. I feel good about it for a little bit. I think I have I think, when I have it for a couple more years, or you're doing you're doing great. Andrea. Thank you so much. And always a pleasure. Thank you. Thank you. All right. So we're going to get into this week in survivor history quiz season finale, and we're gonna talk to the great Jessica lease in just a moment. 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The finale of this week in survivor history. The quiz. Jordan, am I going for a record breaking hen win on the season's day? Yeah. According to rouse, fact, checker, I believe that is, is correct. Is this is your most winningest season in the this week in survivor history quiz? And but you have a you have a tough competitor who's coming back for her second time on the quiz. Okay. There is a one woman standing in between me and destiny. And she is a trivia whiz here to join us is our chief amazing race. Correspondent who will be back in business with a double episode of the amazing race this week, the great, Jessica Jess, how are you? I'm great, rob. So the fact that I'm coming in late in this podcast to compete with you after you've already been on the podcast for quite some ready. Is this kind of this supposed to be an allegory? Let's see if you win the whole thing now check your bag. Check your bag, I left you a little surprise in bandage. I've been on the podcast, the whole time as she just waltzes in with an advantage, right? At the end. This is not an advantage. What is it? She she has to she s the last past the first round, though. And then Rick Devon's could give her the other half of the events. Okay. All right. I have not been kind to him on Twitter, so I don't have high hopes, okay? All right. Of just I want to get to your takes on the season. But Jordan just revealed to me before we came on that he recently visited you at your home. He did. I invited him to a party and he just showed up this guy gets invited to more parties than anybody else that I know rob. If you left your house more often, he'd probably get invited to more parties. So what was this party? I it was I had a whole bunch of snacks that I had brought back from my trip to Ecuador, and then in the rob has podcast patron gift exchange. I'd been gifted more snacks from around the world, and we had more snacks than we could possibly eat. But I wanted to taste. All of them. No, I decided, I was going to have a bunch of people over. And then we would taste all the snacks. Yes. And this wasn't turned into a podcast. Wasn't like a thirty two fans a snack ornament. Good lord. I don't need another podcast. Rob. Yes, I did. Snack racket, Akiva, Akiva, listening. Those. Yeah. All right. Jess. So we had these -vivor edge of extinction, finale this past week. What were your thoughts overhaul on the final night of the edge of extinction? Well, I feel like I wasted thirteen hours of my life leading up to it. Buying it a vacuum. The finale was very entertaining. Yeah. Could we maybe see the edge of extinction come to the amazing race where all the teams that are out of it, maybe just like all get off the plane for the final leg of the race? Yeah. I don't know how they would make that work. And that seems like a lot of airfare to spend. Well, it's a fly them one place. They just. The go-to wherever they were. And then just fly them all in at the end. Yeah. I guess, and they're all there at the final, Matt anyway. Maybe maybe the winners have to battle everybody else. Like maybe there's a head to head on the final Matt. Maybe maybe just you said you were down on Rick Devon's. No. I love RIC Devon's. I just felt like we were being forced fed. A lot of Rick Devon's over the course of the season, it would have been the international snack tasting if there was one delicious snack, but you just insisted that everybody just keep having it and they couldn't try any of the other international snacks, that is exactly what was going on there. Rob, and it was also. It's also as if like it's he was so polarizing, everybody loved him or hated him news. One of those people he was like he was like a ritual Riley in his the season. Where if you said nice thing about him, you'd have all of his ops at you and, like how dare you know, you don't understand this game. And you're stupid for even thinking that he's cool. And then if you would say anything bad about him you would get the stands, and they would be on you like how dare you Rick. Devon's is a national treasure. And I thought the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle there. But anytime I mentioned him, it was just like an onslaught of I don't even know what. And you know, Becca Devon's is awesome. I love her Twitter. I think she is joy on the wand off that was really fun. And Rick Devon's by all accounts officer -vivor seems like a great guy, but I feel like anybody on this show that. It gets more than two idols in a season really almost feels like if they win. They gotta have an asterisk by their name. Okay. All right. Well, no asterisk by my name in the record books here on this historic run on this weekend. Survivor history, I have not used the internet enabled. Search engine assistant even once this entire season. So no advantages for me. In fact, Jordan even revealed the season that he changes the order of the questions to make it harder for me. Jus- only only once because you were on survivor, the Amazon. I don't think I don't think that was I think it was the right move. It was it was a good production decision. Okay. All right. It's a slippery slope. Okay. So Jess, are you familiar with the rules of this weekend, so ever history quiz? I am indeed familiar with the route. Okay. So we can abstain from resetting them and Jordan can tell us the categories for the final round of. Weekend survivor history in a tank this so hard. So we have as four categories we have we just had Andrea Belka on the back gas. This is the ghost of Andrea, belco. We have twist twist vantage gettin robbed g dot odyssey and yeah, baby. Yeah. I think I gotta go with rob Geeta office. Okay. So we're gonna go to survivor coat wrong. The episode is not going down without a fight. This is the finale episode, we're talking all about finale episodes for the multiple choice. Questions may eighteenth thousand sixteen three years ago Saturday at deco wrong. Final tribal council Twiss, alumnus and extinction. Contestant Aubrey Bracco received two jury votes. One was cast by her loyal and gastro gastrointestinal distressed ally. Joe del Campo who cast the one other Aubrey vote. Boy, I'm trying to think of who was on that jury. And I'm going to say and, you know, I might as well just like throw guesses because you're just going to you're just going to give me like names of people that I'm already thinking about. You know that, that if you are wrong rob can steal a point. I just wanted to your I'm aware of aware of the rules. That's why we get them. All right. Sure. Why don't you go ahead and give me the options? Okay. Well, you have a Sydney Gillan be Debbie winner. See Julius Okla ski de Nick the mayo jar Marana. Yeah. See that doesn't that doesn't really helped me because I want to say it was either Sydney or Debbie. And I can't totally remember. So I'm just going to blindly guess that it was sitting. It was not Sydney was actually Nick marrano Jarvis one of the two people who voided votive robbery. So, unfortunately, you're not gonna point there you start start with zero, but you have plenty of time to get to. Record. Yeah. I remember. I, I saw him that night I was like dude like a you voted. You didn't vote for Aubrey, he's like I did vote for Aubrey. Oh, well, yeah. Then friend of the podcast, Maryland, just the mayo jar. Yes. Yes. And I think maybe his his best move on survivor. Ron, rob. It is your turn to choose a category. We, we have the ghost of Andrea, belco twist vantage, get in, and yet, baby. I'll go with the ghost of Andrew del key. Okay. So we're going to go styling, it's gametime kids from may twenty third two thousand eighteen one year ago this Thursday, who did Dominic play Andrea's unused idle from Carimo, and on, at the ghost island final five. Dominic play the ghost island on final five. Talking this through. Hm. Wondering. If this is a trick question. But. I mean call me Razi played it on himself. Rob that is correct. You are used to my BS. Yes. Played on himself. You get two points there. Wendell had had won the immunity challenge here. He played his idol on laurel. But yes Dominic. He play plant wasn't laid the Eric's necklace on laurel which was a which was outs. Correct. So yes, the only the only two people not not immune at tribal council. We're Angela and Donna 'then, who is the one who went home. So very good. Job seeing seeing through my guess. Trick question. Very tricky, tricky tricky, not a trick question. But a tricky question for sure. So you get two points, you have a two zero lead. Jessica, there's two more categories left, twitch vantage, get in and. Evy. I'm I guess I'll go with. Yeah. Baby. Okay. So we're going to world apart. It's fickle fickle game. From may twentieth. Two thousand fifteen four years ago today, somehow the great mama. See only received one jury vote at the worlds apart. Final tribal council tying her in second place. With freaking Wilson's who cast this vote for her. Oh my God. I, I do I was coming on this show. I should've just like looked at every vote that everybody gets for everybody, and I would totally fine to very, very similar questions. Yeah. I don't know why I did that. So who would've voted for mama? See. I know that. Well, I know that Rodney voted for Wilson's. And. I'm trying to think. Clearly drawing blank on this one and also, how is that for years ago? Already. Trying plank or you blocked it out. I, maybe I blocked it out. That was that was a rough season. Very, very rough season. Mike played thirty nine days. That's, that's a fair point. But might have an asterisk to. The only one night. Oh. It felt like every time he it was one of those things like I guess he was just maybe maybe he's a better winner that I give them credit for. Maybe one spent the few. Ward your points to challenge one lot of challenges. Yeah, he did win a lot of challenges you want five immunities. Yeah he played his idol the one time. He wasn't. That's right. That's right. I guess that's, that's perfectly crowding went way to win. All right, George. I don't need rob stealing and dunking on me any harder. So give me give me some choices. Okay. Was it a Halley Ford? Be Rodney see fan favorites. Sierra Don, Thomas England, or d Tyler Frederiksen I was gonna guess Tyler Fredericks. So we'll go with him. Unfortunately, that is not correct. Her former ally who, who she ended up turning on did not vote for her. It was Sierra done. Thomas voted for mama. Sees only one. Not not an easy question. So Jackson, I would've guessed, Jim Brown, if I had a gas. But then that would've said it when she was one of the joys Haley. Maybe I should maybe I should have made Gendron with choices. You're, you're not on the board, but it's not over yet. Rob. You still have another multiple choice question to answer if you were to get a two pointer on this one, actually, it would be mathematically over. So I'm hoping that does not happen. So we're going to twist twist vantage get in this -vivor game changers. No good deed, goes on punished from may twenty fourth two thousand seventeen two years ago this Friday at the tribal council in which Sirri was eliminated by default who actually had the most votes cast against them, which, of course, we're all in the gated. Okay. Well, considering that I don't know the answers this of my head, and we want to keep it interesting. I will hear the mobile choices. Okay, it was it a Aubrey, B, Sarah, Sitai, Detroit San? I'll say it was Aubrey. It was not Aubrey. It was actually Sarah. So you do not get any points there. We have a close game two zero going into the final round. Yep. Sarah, the eventual winner this long. It wasn't for advantage again. Well, if she didn't have an advantage, you would right. Yeah. The legacy of that she would she would have been voted out there. Yes. So Serena Sirri would state in and probably one and Sarah would have been voted out at the final six Sirri head Syria no-votes. She was, I think the only she had no votes cast against her at tribal council, which Jeff Probst point of when he told her that she was out. So it's a two it's a two point game. We're gonna go to the death match and the death matches called third boot madness on survivor edge of extinction. Chris Underwood became the first third boot in survivor history to win the game somewhere. Dan Lewis cheering hunter alyssa's firing up a celebratory stogie with his atomic lighter. And Stacey Stillman is preparing a lawsuit, and she wasn't given the same see to get back into the game in honor of Chris, we are breaking the rules this week in survivor history and not actually using trivia from this week. I will give you a season and you must tell me who was the third boot if someone wasn't actually voted out, but they were the third eliminate. Of the game such as Jena in all stars. They would count as the third boot. If it were a season like edge of extinction in which the third boot re entered the game that person would still count as the third boot for the purpose of this game. So I have ten of these, I took a lot of the ones out that were like impossible to remember so this show. You don't want an impossible question. You've, you've called me on the past for having questions that are that are too hard is I've called for having too confusing. Okay. True. Now there's look there's I do have those written down if if we're if we get. All right. I have. So Jessica, you pick a number from from one through ten in order to decide the order three. Okay. So we are going to the straying outback. Okay. Third boot from the stralia outback. And you need to get this right in order to stay in the game. I think it was mad dog. It was mad dogs here on the board. Two to one and rob. The next one is John. Well, that this is the person that's very near and dear to my heart that this is the purple pants bad ass prices ale. Bryce is is correct. It is three to one. The next one Jessica is survivor game changers. Survivor game changers. Oh man. Well, I can tell you the first two boots. And then I like I know there were people on the show. I wanna pause here and tell you guys a story about I made a relatively benign tweet about Rick Devon's. And some food tweeted me like fifteen tweets about how he thought I was terrible at trivia. Nowhere. And this is like what type of just trivia in general. Yeah. Like you're not as good as you think you, are you lost on all your game shows and every time you're on the show. I hate you. And like, okay, says, I said that because I made made a funny joke about Rick Devon's and now you're coming for my trivia, crown that doesn't exist because don't win trivia things anyway. That was a very long winded aside. I'm going to punt on this. I have no idea. Okay. So. You don't want to say, yes, because if you. Rob. Rob wins the quiz. If you actually win the quiz. I know. Okay. So you're, you're not gonna get a point here. Do you know the answer to this? You know who the third survivor game changers is the great two-time survivor? Kayla be smoke cowboy Reynolds, wonder Reynolds. Third third Bhutia? He's the first one to go out after the swap Sierra. And Tony, of course, the first to go out in the premiere episode Caleb goes out there. I think. Yes time survivor contested, I'm sure, he's better remembered as a big brother contestant and rob, you win the quiz. Three two one. Congratulations. These what else? What else what else you have? What you want. Another Philippians is the next one. That is going to be. That's Angie, lateness or less. Angela versus villains, yet they cookies that is Randy. Wrandell. Yeah. He went out after sugar and Stephanie what about Cambodia? That. Showing off well. Getting any. Well, I think the only way you were going to stop me on this was like give me like Fiji. I don't think I would know. Okay, who is who is in fact Fiji. Is it Rita? No, it's not Rita Soviet. So be. Yeah. I think it's only like. Host. You'd have to get like, really obscure like like like the early like maybe Tamala through. Fiji. I think is the real blind spot. Yeah. I believe Guatemala is what I always get these three women who went home after Jim Lynch, I think. A magician. Second. She was second. I don't know. Who was after that? Who the second arena? I think maybe three anniverary I think she may have been third, but. The, the most relevant one that didn't come up during the game a little Morris third. Boot who came back and went all the way to the end. Unfortunately, didn't I. Not unfortunately, I'm happy, Sandra. One little more as a third and. Joint. Head of me. In winter. Could've won. I want island of the idols to be Sandra Lil. Lil in Wanda would be incredible. Okay. All right, Jess, we're going to be back at it on a Wednesday night. I really do feel like that. The amazing race season did lose a lot of momentum with offer a week. Yeah. Every time you do the do the tape. Let survivor finish its thing I think you lose a little steam, but it is a double episode and it looks like they're going to some interesting places and doing some interesting things. So I have high hopes. Okay. Well, we will be back on Thursday night to record our amazing race. Double episode or recap myself. Jess and Mike bloom. And I will have zero one or two exit interviews for you as well. Depending on what happens in this two hours of the amazing race. Yeah. Depending on what happens, and if they're willing to. Talk to you. Non elimination legs back to back is that something they do provide nine at two two hour episodes. You gotta someone's going on, on are we are there teams that are on the show that are not going to talk to me. Now we're universally beloved. Oh, yeah. I mean, I think that I think that we should be okay. Yeah. I think so we haven't said anything terrible up to this point. And if we said something terrible on. Yeah. There's days podcast. They won't have been able to hear it. Well, just alluding to in terms of amazing race history as we're here with Jordan Kayla that it was actually a survivor team Whitney and Keith who many people may not recall, actually competed on a couple of legs of the amazing race. And when they were eliminated, they obstain from talking to me on the exit interview, you discussed her believe it or not. Yeah, so I guess there's, there's some precedent Keith Keith is on the shortlist as a as a twist Gessen, unfortunately, when he heard. That you were the you're the ops, you're going to have to trivia against, you know. Yeah, the only key that well, actually one, one of several Keith that I would welcome here is. He's the superior fun. He'd be good. We definitely. Well, while while he's trying to come up with the third boot in survivor, Vanuatu. I think we could definitely get some come on God's coming up. John pal. Yeah. All right. So you could follow the great at haymaker Hattie on social media and Jordan is at Jordan kale's just anything else you wanted to promote. I think if you guys want to head over to primetime dot com, I had an article about the big bang theory finale, and I it went to press the night before the finale, and I made a call that turned out to be agreed to wrong. So that's always, oh, okay. How was the big bang theory finale that really completely was overshadowed by the game of thrones? I think I saw any talk about the big bang theory finale. Yeah. It went out with a whimper instead of a big bang. It was it was fine. I mean that show is fine. It's not it's not groundbreaking in the way of a Seinfeld or friends, but it's been on for a really long time, and it was a very heartwarming and happy ending for everybody. It kind of ret conned a few things that didn't need ret conning. But on the whole it was, it was an enjoyable hour of TV. I'm glad I got to write about it, and it'll be missed, okay? Did you follow it for ten seasons? I did I did because it was one of those shows that you can let them pile up on your DVR and then some afternoon, you're doing laundry thing to put on. So I watched it in that way. I didn't like I wasn't week to week like talking on message board about it. And it's kind of an embarrassing thing to admit if you are any kind of self identified nerd because it's not a show that third gravitate to, and it did have its flaws. But it also did some things really, really well. And that was kind of what my piece was about on primetime dot com. I used to keep up with it in the first couple of seasons. And, you know, they definitely did start off on the right foot, and they'd be like go to Comecon and do panel. So, I think it was a show that sort of just stayed on, maybe too long and became the butt of some people's jokes. But a very impressive record in terms of, like how many people kept up with it, by the way, my, my father in law is a huge big bang theory. Stan oh, well then. Thinly at. My in-laws house that they watch it all the time. And they watch they watched the new episodes. They watched the ones on TBS. He has a t shirt that says bazooka. I'm sure he was very happy with the finale then. Fan service. I'll actually I'll make the hot take that one of the best recent big bang theory, moment, actually, happened at the end of the last episode of young Sheldon. So that's in there. If anybody wants to go hit that up on their on demand. It was very cute. If you like big bang theory you'd like it very much. I'm gonna do a Twitter poll to see what the listeners prefer young Sheldon or young Devon's definitely young Devon's. I think everybody's gonna prefer young Devon's young young Devon's shot up once he didn't win survivor. Okay. All right. Plumbing? Let me know actually, if I don't do the Paul, that's the hash day it was up. Tell me if you prefer young Sheldon or young Devon's. Okay. My ops. I say, like I know the show just ended. I I've seen maybe a few episodes of the big bang theory. And I hate I'm sorry, if this is the hot young. I guess I guess he would be, but big bang. Theory may be one of my least favorite of all time. I really can't stand it that that and what's the one with Jeff garland? I don't watch that. And young Sheldon is basically the wonders, if the wonder years was completely insufferable. Yes. Okay. All right. Great job. Jess end Jordan, Jordan. I have to commend you on your outstanding work all season long. This is a little bit of a cliffhanger season finale for what could be the series finale of. Twitch. Well, yeah, it could be. We that we don't know what's going to go on with the with the exit interviews next year. I mean we got the the longer format because there were no exit interviews, and we have the social media, and I gotta say it's been so much fun doing it all season definitely was was five had the most fun. I've had recording twitch and I mean, I've always, I've always loved doing the show, so we'll see. We'll see. And I appreciate the feedback from everyone because I think people people up, I want to add also we're talking about the, the goldbergs I don't wanna million tweets about gone. Oh, yes. I don't like the goldbergs just one. What, what t want what do you vote? You should this weekend, survivor exist in some form after the season or should be twist. Quays return to the exit interview, if there are exit interviews for season thirty nine. I mean I always like it with the exit interview I feel like it's kind of a little pallet cleanser, like after you've talked to the survivor, and then we get right into the quiz. But honestly, whatever keeps Jordan Kayla in our lives. I'm all for it. Well, they both they'd both keep me in your lives. Jordan in lieu of exit interviews. I'm not talking about another third boot that should survivor should CBS trot out robber, Sandra every single week just to tell me about the person who got kicked off the show. I think that would be that would be fun. I do say even though I think it benefited this podcast. Survivor history. I did miss to me season from the actual players, but that'd be fun to have frigging Sandra in Boston rob center in Boston Robson, but she come on this we can survivor every week. That'd be great. How sure wish they wanna do that firewall show. One time. That's it. That's all you're going. Okay. All right. So that's gonna do it for the season or series finale of this weekend survive. We had, we had a lot of fun. Of course, we could not do it without the support of the rob has a podcast patrons to find out more about everything that we're doing, and we just had a three hour patron Facebook Friday, call the other night had a lot of questions about the finale. 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Swamp Thing 1982 v 2019!

40 Going On 14

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Swamp Thing 1982 v 2019!

"Our never say never say hello everybody and welcome to forty going on fourteen. I am mike. I m patrick joel. And i'm josh and once i thought i had a swamp thing turns out. It was just a hot day. And i needed to shower. That's the reaction. I was looking for with that one. And i though i suppose a correct vernacular would be swampy thing crush pot cooking. You stole that from robin williams. You bet did very good swamp ass. So this week we are talking about swamp thing the original Nine gene eighty four to eighty two movie and the twenty nine. Tv show rupe so there and happy anniversary guys university. It's all this of a facebook memory saying from you josh. You actually sent out on this day. January twenty eighth years ago eight years ago. I am starting recording the first episode of forty going on fourteen tonight. That must be the the like test episode. You and i did before Is that what that was i. It's gotta be because it's in september when we did the conan show. Wow still that must've been the random before we have show notes or even really topics where it was literally just Me and mike was eight months before we started recording. Yeah because originally we were going to have a different lineup. That's that's exit. We are talking about Yeah it's just you and me. And i think originally we were we had invited will and he flaked out and then. Nick was neck Ironically that's exactly the names you have and they're saying people going to join us but Yeah that was. That was the night that we did the first. Choose your own adventure show. That's right eight eight years ago. So if you like choosing your own adventure and you like podcasts may have different lineups i. I don't know where i'm going with us. You'll find podcast podcast. That don't have me in them. If you're right podcasts. That don't have patrick in them. And our show. You'll find all of those things on geek. Life radio you'll find in addition to forty going on fourteen. All things transformers the history of bad ideas. Html all the things and of course schwartzberg typecasting now. That's not work shopping. Yeah yeah i mean. Nothing's gonna nothing is really going. I think going to beat the guitar solo that you came up with for red eye radio show before red radio hour that i brought up every week because there was one before red dead. That was left. Field was the left field sports lounge. Yes because we announce left fields sports lounge for a year and a half and then finally what it was looking to be like. Hey devon posted a show for a year and a half. I think we probably plugged red dead for like two years after it stop doing shows. We're going to check in on the so but sorry smartish. If i just killed your show forty going on fourteen curse stolen in provo. you'll die. it's like being on the cover for madden Oh how nice i know. Pat won't get that. I got that i kind of understood that. Yeah that's all rachel. Go back sit in the corner. Have yourself biscuit biscuits. There's biscuits looking for more of this. We are on apple podcasts. Google podcasts blueberry stitcher. Talk to padras. Fm new fm. We're on blueberry. We're all over the place. We are not so much on poppy. Anymore will that. There's a story behind that but anyway bean. It's been on pod being family by the time you hear this. Yes yes that will actually draw. Probably put a put a pre cut in for the rest of it but For any jenkins that's going on with feeds. Everybody's catching up. I'm sorry were all calm. Everything's good things fine. How're you not good. I don't get afflict the being anymore no you don't think it's about that time flink and sports three fog a well. Would you said that. When napa or i love the doppler effect. It's fun all right so this week. We're going with february. Nineteenth nineteen eighty two which was release of the original swamping. Moving all right so music. The number one song and a land was centerfold by j gals band song. Patrick is not fond of as i told you. That song is important to me. Because you are once a centerfold that you want today to j. gals decides that i'm running out of options you met. You met a guy at a motel at one point. Who hasn't that's true. He likes pina coladas. Now actually that is That sarah's most often done karaoke song. Oh that's right i do remember that now. I think it's come up on the show for yup. I've never heard it though. I mean know the song of just never never heard her. Singing a yeah. We haven't done so much karaoke since it's weird. We haven't smoked for years but we stopped going the karaoke when they stopped allowing smoking in bars Well if they allow breathing in bars again someday soon then Maybe vaping in bars. We'll have to hear that ocean breeze soap will make you clean All right so the twenty. Four th annual. Grammy awards held on february twenty. Four th at the shrine auditorium in los angeles quincy jones was a major recipient of awards with a total of five grammies. The much coveted album of the year award went to jack. Douglas john lennon and yoko ono for double fantasy and song of the year went to donna. Weiss and jackie de shannon for betty davis is owner of most of that. I mean even though. I'm not a huge yoko fan. That's actually a pretty decent album. She she didn't have a whole lot to do with it so she's gad. Yoko ono is role. And if you have not seen or heard the bill. Burr rant going on about yoko ono and john lennon and chuck berry. You definitely need to do yourself a favor and look that up the s that i have not yet. I think that was one. You show that to me turned me onto bill burr. He's angry in harris. War went and saw him a couple of years ago. Yeah yeah she's a fan. I like his show efforts for family yet. Pretty decent. it's good plus. It got justin lawn so all right so on. February nineteenth. ozzy osbourne was arrested after urinating. On the alamo. In san antonio yup. He's lucky that arrested is all he Texans don't take too kindly to people pissing on the alamo. He's he's lucky the cops guiding before the san antonio is the amount of guns and vitriol. That must have happened. I yeah yeah he would. He was not allowed to have to play in concert in texas for years after that and he was banned from the city limits san antonio for i think ten years might have been only five but he had like he was not allowed to come back to the city. Wow way to go making friends show. Sorry the cop shop. Do we're saving your life. That's overdoing i mean. He he at this point he literally. He was so drunk at that point. He doesn't even remember doing it all right. So the loneliest. Sphere monk was an american jazz pianist and composer unique improvisational style and made numerous contributions to the standard jazz repertoire including round midnight blue monk straight. No chaser ruby. My dear in walked bud and well you need. Monk is a second most recorded. Jazz composer after two kellington monk was renowned for a distinct look which included suits hats and sunglasses. He was also noted for an idiosyncratic habit during performances while other musicians continue playing monk would stop stand up and dance for a few moments before returning to the piano. He died of a stroke on february seventeenth and was absorbed. And that sucks because monk is awesome. The loneliest monk was was very very talented pianist. agreed. I'm not super fast. But what i like i like and he is in that narrow slice of jazz that i like he's iconic just like you see him in your like yup yup funny story Or interesting story. Maybe not funny. But when ray charles was auditioning for the role of or not rachel is when jamie fox was auditioning for the role of charles and ray ray charles was still alive at that point and he sat down with him at the piano and started playing a some felonious monk pieces in jamie foxx sat down and started playing along with him. And he's like yeah. This is the guy we can keep up with that then. Yup you can keep up with ray. charles planet. the loneliest monk than yeah. You're you're ready and finally murray kaufman possibly known professionally known. I was so. I haven't messed up at weeks and then i have to fuck professionally of possibly go wrong. Parle's the fourth so murray kaufman jhnr professionally known as murray. The k was an influential new york city radio. Dj of the nineteen fifties through the seventies often cited as the original hysterical disc jockey. During the early days of beatlemania he frequently referred to himself as the fifth beatle coffin died of cancer a week after sixty th birthday on february twenty first of Never heard of this guy. Yeah you never heard of. Murray the k seriously now. Wow yeah like the most famous thing was. He was the fifth beatle for a while he. When i came to america he was like the first person that glommed onto because they'd heard about heard about him as a dj from other acts that they toured with so when they came to america already heard about him so they kind glommed onto him and he hung around with him for like the first couple of years that they were in america point. Pms must've been pissed like fucker. The fifth beatle far-right moving onto movies. The number one movie in the land was on golden pond starring. The late katharine hepburn henry fonda along with jane fonda and dabney coleman that in the theater. Really be honest with you. I love this movie. This is like one of my favorite movies about santana i just. I think it's not a good movie. I'm just saying i did not at this time. Respect what a good movie it was. I was gonna say if you saw this in the theater in nineteen eighty-two you probably live within ten. Yeah so yeah. I think i saw it on vhs. When i was a kid and didn't get it and then saw it again as an adult. And like i might not love it as much as padded but i finally appreciated seeing like twenty years later. Go suck face like that word Bullshit do as a good word right. The death wish to was also released this week. Speaking of bullshit yeah valley. It's not bullshit. I knew joel would not yet but the other two would be on. I mean it's so death wish three but what is but really seriously what it was four. Or yeah i mean well. I'm dan yes. We know february log. Don't want to talk about charles broads anymore. I was trying and then you said move along. Now he's fucked up at. your teeth. Was the birthday of joseph leonard gordon. You've murphy's version herve schmuck smugness mortgage okay. Let's try that again. The eight year old man. We're gonna that's gonna make the the cutting room floor. It's not jersil seen in death. Wish three where he coughed a lot. Oh jesus correct february seventeenth. Nothing happened next bullet. Point everywhere. vodka tonic through my sinuses. Turn jesus new hang. Oh my god. I now have come off. Seventeenth was the birthday of joseph gordon damage. It's that leonard. Does gordon lettered six a flaky crispy crust okay. Someone saw video. Okay could really taste the. What is the rich green penis penis. Okay ed henry. Seventeenth was the birthday of joseph leonard gordon levitt an american actor filmmaker singer seattle. Take adjudge. got this. I have to get through this because the acronyms in this one. Otherwise legit would've injected from this one by now roy entrepreneur and fuck it up. How many movies. He's going to get through before he tweaks out on it. I liked out february. Seventeenth was the birthday of joseph leonard. Gordon love it. An american actor filmmaker singer and entrepreneur. He made his first big break when he played the role of. Tommy solomon in the tv series third rock from the sun. He has since starred in five hundred days of summer. Inception fifty fifty. The brothers bloom. The dark knight rises. Looper lincoln the walk snowden and the acronym of the week which is gi. J. t. r. o. c. pretty sure stanford gravy and joel turkey road killer chicken j you when you were talking about gravy earlier so my god adam handberg. That's that's not what that was. I gotta tell you. I just assume that was right down the park. Finally though that was the rise of cobra far jolt of flavored gravy tastes. Like i can ask that. Ruin the question swamp thing all right adam. Hand bird born on february. Twenty third is an american actor and screenwriter. Most recognized for his roles in the films. Jumanji the ice storm halloween. H two o twenty years later and is the title character in little man tate. It did it finally all right so tv. Top shows and land were sixty minutes dallas mash and magnum. Pi fair. yeah we did it magnum. Pi show. I really wanna magnum p. The they have official magnum. Pi hawaiian shirts. The red one with the bird of paradise all over it you sit by one when we did the magnet i know and then i immediately forgot because i always say should on the show when i'm drunk. He's either. I don't buy it or i wind up like ten shirts and have a moustache. Yeah i i will never achieve the glory of the magnum. Pi mustache few people that can grow a moustache. Like tom selleck. It's not exactly something to be. You know. I'm trying to imagine mike with a mustache creeping fuck out. He looks like justin bieber. Would you like to come into my van. Little boy van. I wanna come in. I got mustache dude. Would you like joel gravy. Yeah warm skirt how we got off the rails this fast. It's the beginning of the show. Was smooth hit the rocks right in the middle of all right still. The night of one hundred stars star studded event held in recorded at radio city music hall on february fourteenth in the honor of the one hundredth anniversary of the actors fund of america. I don't know what that is but moving on some of the big names in attendance included. Lauren bacall harry belafonte milton. Berle james cagney dick clark. Betty davis robert deniro. Dustin hoffman james. Earl jones burt lancaster. Donald sutherland orson welles. Joyce dewitt and thank god. He didn't put off men eighty-seven others. I actually watched the opening to that. And it is just amazing star after star like any twenty of them are bigger than almost any twenty stars. You can pick today. I mean the list of people that i went through was insane. I mean i kept thinking. I was like i'm just gonna put like two or three or four of them down and finding more and more big names i couldn't. I couldn't exclude joyce to wit. I was gonna put. Orson welles enjoys a win together. Threes and citizen kane. I'm looking at all these names. Like who would. I love to see a movie together. Milton berle james cagney and donald sutherland. Together in a in a movie. Doing anything i think. It would be hilarious in a remake of three amigos and a remake of desperate to in already. Nobody could stop trying to make remakes of death wish happen. Yeah no shit. One already happened. I know and look what we did that. we did. Moving onto sports february seventeenth to the twenty-first was sri lanka's first ever test cricket match versus england in the city of colombo. Thank you for clarifying. Because we're gonna make a joke. Otherwise wayne gretzky scored his nhl record seventy eighth goal of the season on february. Twenty four th on route two ninety two for the season which is still a record to this day. She had good god ninety two goals in an eighty game season. Yeah ex yeah. That's how can impressive. How many in was he in at that point. Oh in the seventy eighth goal. I don't know. I really don't know yet seventeenth game. And he took off fifty games last night. Yeah well one of the most amazing things about larry bird and in a career amazing things in just in so many amazing things. I've told you about him. One of the most amazing things is. He hurt his shooting the pinky finger his shooting hand in high school and never ever had feeling in like the the outer third of his like his his pinky finger and his ring finger on his shooting hand never in his entire career throughout college and pro ever had feeling in those two fingers in a shooting in. I heard this week that occasionally he would get bored and play the game left handed and still put down like twenty or thirty points. Thought that's awesome. Yeah he would tell people at the end of the game when when the game is tied and they had the ball. He'd like i'm gonna shoot right here. And he pointed to the spot on the floor and he do it right in front of him. Just train the shot. I guess the really. He told you where he was going to take the shot. I didn't believe him yes. There was a game winning three where he got a call that he disagreed with and he was pissed off and he yelled at the ref. Final do it again. And then he stepped in same spot and did it again. that's fantastic. I mean how. I don't know i just i love what was you. What were you talking about. Pat about how he would go into the locker room. Be like i'm gonna dunk on you today. Yeah yeah he would he. He was one of the best trash talkers in all of the game. I mean he just the amount the amount of the amount of demoralizing things he would do to people like one time he was tortured guy for just you just over and over any he runs by you. Know after scored. Another basket runs by the team's bench coach on his way by. You better get somebody else to me. Because this i doing it. That's right that awesome. Thanks to repeating. What i heard a lot. This week i was able to contribute to the basketball discussion. Although there's a narrow slice from like ninety two ninety five where. I actually know what i'm talking about. I i tell you the truth. Man larry bird played today with the amount of like ability. They would've had to cure some of his ails yet. A bad back at a bad shooting hand. They would've been able to fix a lot of that. He probably no joke would be considered the best player. Ever your and The amount of training he would have to do just to stay competitive. Plus the rules of the game are different. Yeah i mean he would. He would be one of the he would be one of the top four of all time right now i mean and i believe he would probably be the best player ever. He'll be better than michael jordan if he'd have been at one hundred hundred percent and able to play with today's rules. Now that's an interesting question basketball's around all right. Let's go to the river. We're talking poker now poker just as well as you know basketball all right well. That's it for the twee place off keyboard. Joel that that that data that all right so nineteen eighty eighty-two somebody looked at the swamp thing comic book character and said that would make a great movie and they were right in a way because that would make a great movie unfortunately what they made they made was. Hey well the thing would. They made was a nineteen eighty two swamp thing. Yeah this commune interesting discussion. It's going to be all over the place. I think So after a violent incident with a special chemical or research scientist as turned into a swamp. Plant monster thank you i am. Dv technically that's true. This movie Now a little bit of the media history of swamp thing that swamping thousand eighty to nineteen eighty-nine return of the swamp thing came out Starring a one heather locklear as eb abby arcane. If you see the poster of this one it's awful. It's got swamping carrying heather locklear with with a thought bubble above her head. That says why can't men be more like plants. Where if you've seen the movie which i just watched it today. That's actually where she had at that tracks on. Nineteen ninety usa network premiered swamp thing tv series Had dick dirt. Ach reprising his role using a modified version of the return of the swamp in costume took a turn away from camp things and Leaned a little bit more towards of the darkness of west craven's version and lasted ninety three. I'm sorry last until ninety. Three with seventy two episodes victory de dictator dirac. What did i say rock. Dick the rock okay. There's animated series that nikolayevich nicole lodge went on at the same time was five episodes. Did not do well but it spot toys it. There were definitely toys. Yes and then two thousand and nine joel. Silver announced plans to reboot swamp thang franchise from a story written by of eka goldsman. Akiva goldsman akiva akiva. Kiva definitely akiva goldsman. Which i totally know this guy because he was a writer. Consulting producer are my favorite. Tv shows fringe. Yup yup good stuff. Good stuff which we got to figure out how to do that eventually. Vin sendo natalya was confirmed to direct. But eventually he decided to delay it and pursue other things. So we'll get onto that later so something that i had not known after so many years of watching this that i did not know that wes craven wrote and directed this movie really. Well i mean. It's i watched remember watching this on. Hbo when i was a kid. I didn't know who wes craven was. Well very few people out of us like schlock horror did before swamp thing. This was sort of his proof of concept that he could handle bigger projects New west craven is pre nightmare on elm street by two. yeah they. They said that he came up with the idea of nightmare. Elm street y. While he was filming this so that's at least in the theory of it. Well something good came out of this movie. Then ask a lead. Wine is one of the comic book writer. Is that was responsible for the creation of the character of swamp thing along with bernie wrightson back in nineteen seventy one. Yeah camel with that guy. Also i toss us in in here. That harry men. Freddie men for needed manfredi manfredini. Gay men manfred. Harry manfred. mann did look for this and also was the composer for some other movies that we have seen such as friday the thirteenth house. A deep star six just a bunch of friday the thirteenth stuff. He also did Lake erie scream queens. He did music He was composer for tons of horror horror stuff. And if you are familiar. I mean this was right right after the original friday thirteenth. It sounds a lot like friday thirteen. Yeah a lot. Yeah but Moving on so. We have louis louis jordan short on jordan dan as arcane. You may know him as a Bond villain from octopussy missing. And that's pretty good casting. Because anton arcane is basically a bond villain who is also a mad scientist and also a source her. You wouldn't know that to like watch this movie but like the villain. All things considered. I think he was the best part of this movie. I would agree a three point. But we'll get there. Yeah adrian barbaro as ls cable. A very young which i thought he was a lot younger than he actually was actually thirty five when he did. That's been ray wise right. That was that was a double take from me. Because i haven't seen that's an easily twenty years. Yeah i'm sorry. It's not a rotation joel. I know right david hess as ferret. Who for a brief moment there. While watching us i thought it was actually from welcome back kotter yes like this epstein great value rambo thing going on yeah david he was a. He's a west craven favorite. I mean most people would know him from last house on the left. Okay and he. And he's a singer wasn't a lot of people would know him as guy can't act and it was a singer songwriter wall. And that's the thing i wanted to toss in. There is that he also he musician wise he did. This was on the soundtrack for the hateful. Eight and for cabin fever and for body count bunch of other horror movies. So he's another musician as an actor. A hell of a musician yes. So we've got nicolas worth who got epstein and then we've got bruno who you may all remember. Ready as paulie from darkman stockman drake. So yeah so. Paulie nickel's worth don night as ritter l. Is charlie dick dirac as swamp thing ben bates as the arcane monster nenet brown as linda holland and course reggie bats as jude gotta loved you. You love jude and batts. You may know him as nothing else. This is literally the only thing that he's ever been an except for something called. I have to find this. it's called. Hey jude with reggie batts. He did warn thirteen some. Tv work like the north and the south mini series. He did some stage stuff but yeah he eventually dropped out of acting is trying to get back in again but mostly local say he was pretty decent in this honestly. He was entertaining hype in the best part of the movie. I think with you pat. Just because i had issues with arcane. Well we'll we'll get there. Yeah so actually. i'll move to the reggie batts trivia. Then young reggie. Batts plays local teen jude and while Some people have ragged on his performance. Just west craven actually defended him. I thought he did a pretty good job. He acknowledges but also said that by casting somebody local they. He was like a wherever they shot. This i know. I haven't yet thank you. John was north carolina kid. They just grabbed but they didn't have to abide by all the sag rules for children because they grabbed somebody that was local and it felt more natural honestly. Yeah it felt like. He felt like the kid was just kinda like hanging out where he normally hangs out They also say that Aging barbosa still stays in touch with bats. Yeah she's seems like a pretty down to earth woman. Yeah so the music composer composer harry manfredini al-also dead friday the thirteenth. All that like we had talked about before Adrian barbeault eventually went on to do the voice of cat woman on batman. The animated series. I know that yeah. Alice cable adrian. Barbosa is an amalgam of two characters from the swamp thing universe abby arcane matthew jones of cable And who in them was actually married to matthew cable. In his a niece of dr entertain and in the latter displayed by louis jordan. Right there's a whole love triangle thing going on between her and swamp thing like in the the run that most of the ellen more yeah yeah throughout the movie There is a high pitched screeching sound that can be heard presumably. Animal life in the swamp. It's the same. Sound that terry records from her window of where wolves howling in the wind or howling in the woods from the movie. The howling in nineteen eighty one needs to same sound Both films were distributed by amazon pictures. Fun fun fact. Yeah while initially released on. Dvd in the united states. The international version of the movie contain scenes of nudity adrian. Babo not seen in. Us theaters and was accidentally transferred. Instead of the us version after complaints are many many viewers. The dvd was recalled. Why would they complain. Oh yeah because it's pg. Let's hear it for nine thousand nine hundred. Eighty s pg. Her i mean if jaws and poltergeist her p pg airplane pg. Yeah is a different time. Oh yeah what does that full-frontal yeah. Pg anything in between so yes. I can him. Yeah john at some point educational they were born from there. They might as well see all right so the question. Is this a first viewing for any us. Yes no really yeah i. I talked a little bit about this over the week as a teenager. I before i actually read the ellen more run of swamp thing. I became an ellen moore fan. After being inntroduced watchmen. I mixed up swamp thing and Toxic avenger and. I seen a little bit of toxic avenger and hated it so i never watched anything swamping related later years. I like sorted out. Which was which i still never went back. And one thing you're going to say man thing forgot you. Had you had mentioned that before. Oh forgot about man thing. There's man thing the swamp thing maddening thing man thing is a real thing. yep it's marvel's version but they were created a simultaneously so it's i would actually call group marvel's version of swamp thing considering he was originally a horror character as well anyway. Yeah so josh seeing it. This is actually them before we get. When did all of us see this. The first time out josh. I was probably fourteen years old. That's a good question. I don't i don't know that i remember the first time i've seen it but i've i mean i've seen a six seven times. Maybe in the course of my life father show was the first one to show this kind of one of the movies we watched family night or something bubis one of the first time. That's all movies in a movie. That's true oh explains a lot Why i like perms. Nobody likes purves. Yeah that's the funny thing about the eighties. As you could have big big curly hair and still be a sex symbol because that was not like attractive looking curly hair yet curly hair. Now it's straight hair. who am i thinking of. Oh shit what's his name. Alan dershowitz which from our tracers palace. And he was on mash also. He played The doctor you that the trapper john now with a psychologist with the moustache curly hair. God oh you're talking about marvin here what. The hell was his name. But he's increase palace which is okay okay. I really did not mean to derail this and our conversation. This is all gonna get deleted door this horrible right now so now yes this is your first time. My god no. I have seen this multiple times. Like i said it showed up on either. Hbo or spa. on cable. All the time. When i was a kid. So it's I've seen this multiple times. But like i said i just haven't sought it out for reasons. I mean that's almost exactly the same as me. I've seen this probably half a dozen times but all of them before. I was like sixteen All before high school. See i unlike josh kind of went. The reverse order new swamp thing was because of being a comic collector. But i had seen a movie and didn't come to the alan more saga of swamp thing until maybe six years ago i read the entire run and i became a swamp thing fan. I'd like the movie to begin with but just kind of more as a fun kind cheesy pseudo sipe superhero kind of thing but after i read more take on it. I was like holy shit. This character is just is amazing. It's really the genesis of him using comic books to explore social issues like it starts small at first in swamp thing but by the end you can see. There's a clear through line from the end of his swamping. Run to view for vendetta and watchmen and it's interesting because you've got this character that up to that point you know it started out as a one off in a in a horror. Comic then became his own thing. I didn't mean to do that. But then alamo took over basically tied up all the plotlines in his first issue so that all the stuff that happened before had to finish and then made the characters broke the character down to nothing and rebuilt him essentially with an existential crisis. Which doesn't sound like you know fascinating reading for comic book fans. But it's fucking amazing. I'm with you jill. That's was super interesting to me where you get to the point. Where he believes. He's this guy this whole time and it turns out that the guy he always thought he was This debt has been the whole time and he's just got his memories. It's almost like you know like a if you had a clone that suddenly realized that they were not the original. And it's just. When i first read it i didn't know that prior to it and i read it as though i was reading it for the first time when it was originally published and it kind of blew my mind i was like what what just happened and it just got better from there. I mean just. It's so good. He's one of my favorite comic book characters. And i will say that aside from summer the smashing together the plot of plots and characters mishmash there was some legitimately good stuff in the first two thirds of the movie. Not all of it. Some of the acting was a little uneven. But like i liked their take on our cain even though they're leaving out quite how powerfully as but he's a suave bond villain ish guy They follow some of the plot. Beats the character is a little rubber suty but like given the time on the budget. I could forgive that. And then we get to one point where the movie comes completely off the rails for me and that's the dinner after swamp thing's been captured. Well the straight up through our canes transformation and then the you got a woman straight up tied to a chair at everybody's like yeah whatever. This is normal. It's like yeah that that is very out of character with the suave arcane. We've seen up this point. Then he takes his most loyal henchmen has him drink the untested formula and he turns into an extra from doctor who like sixties document. Row is what i kept thinking and then instead of profiting off the formula his solutions to drink it himself because reasons because he thought it was gonna turn him into a super genius when apparently just turned him into a werewolf. It's like you said it there. Pigs thank you you become your what you the essence of of you know who you are like. It makes that into a physical manifestation. Almost what he was was Special effects that was rejected from the howling. Apparently in his core say like if. I'm anton arcane. I'm going to consider that. The guy who i've got tied up who's arm. I've cut off might be fucking lying to me. I don't just scott gun the shit yeah it. It felt a little forced. I mean i felt bad overall. Because wes craven according to adrienne barbosa anyway she the original script. She'd just fons over how good it was. And because of budget cuts that just kept coming and coming and coming. The script kept getting rewritten and shortened. In and changed altered in the special effects kept getting more and more low tech because it just they weren't they were taking all the money out of it so he was kinda hamstrung But cisco kneeboard still like it so there you go. I don't know man. this is a case of. I think the ending actually ruin the movie for me where i was onboard until we get to that And that third act and then you take a really great villain and force him into a rubber suit fight. That is actually worse than the rubber suit fights. You'd see years later in mighty morphin power rangers and he. He waited until the moment that she stabbed by a sword to finally be like all right. I'm gonna kick some ass now like why didn't you just kick ass from the beginning. This this is getting serious. She got stabbed. I should let me fix her tonight. I should have thought about the fact that he had a sword and she has no and no defense. And i should probably get rid of the threat. No i was just playing around with him. Like cat and mouse game and then suddenly she gets stabbed. And now i'm like. Hey dude i mean swamp thing is essentially an elemental. I mean the guy can control the the plant life. The trees get power from the earth around him and yet he's getting his ass kicked in a swamp by you know like you said a rubber suit villain that those is. I never liked that part of the movie. Like i always sit down and i'm excited to watch it again because it's fun i enjoy it but then i get to that point and i'm just like it's like josh say and it just kind of makes me go. Why why. why boss. Battle trying to compare this to other dc films. It might actually be better a better movie than the wonder woman. Nineteen eighty-four out. I definitely had more fun with this one. The dial in some cases the dialogue. I think. I sent this to you guys when the exchange between the characters with ray. No you shot. Any o'hara danny victor. Victor shot danny. Okay i mean. Sometimes it's a laugh out loud so terrible. The conversations are and then with the josh. With the dinner scene where bruno his most loyal servant gets turned into the little dwarf big thing and jumps on the table and response with you and then they cut it. You know. it's it's terrible end. it's super campy. And i don't know why i like it. Well what's i think. part of. What makes it something. That i wanna i liked to rewatch is at despite kind of the later and in can -tations of the series which i've watched all i've watched the cartoon i've watched the ninety series i watched and and dick iraq over the course of it has stuck with a character. Outside of the animated series is that he captured kind of the somewhere between mike frankenstein's monster. And you kind of this pesos of this character. Who's in a situation. He doesn't want to be an but yet as embracing it and is kind of at one with everything but if somebody comes in and starts messing around he's gonna fucking kick their ass and he captured that he he gets that he gets the character It kind of loses it a little bit as the different can Incarnations happen but in this film. I feel like he's he's got he's kinda tapped into that. That's why i think part of why it works for me anyway. I didn't get all that emotion out of the suit in this one. No no i was talking about his his performance as an actor not necessarily the the suit itself was not good. It got better in the later versions but it. Yeah this one is is a is pretty rough. But i looked past that well you had something to look past two because you knew a lot more of the long run into this a lot during the show you know whereas i know more the lower going to movies like this whereas i don't or mike doesn't one of us doesn't know the lord whoever doesn't know the lower likes it less than the other people and that's true. Yeah and that's kind of a problem like if you have to know. I mean i guess i called up the donnie darko problem. If you have to know more than what you're going to tell us in the movie in order to enjoy it didn't that that's a problem. Well i enjoyed it. And i didn't even know swamp thing was a comic book when i thought and i enjoy the comic books and i didn't like it but it was basically because of the third act. If the I could have forgiven the campinas of the first two thirds of the movie if they just continued on with more of that and given me an ending but the third act ruined it so i think between mike and mi we kind of kind of shot a hole in your theory for this particular movie. I'm not saying you're not usually correct in that just this time. I wonder how this would have fared if they would have taken the the approach they took in return a- swamp thing in so much as Arcane is back in that and instead of turning himself into something. He's trying to make himself immortal but he's experimenting on other people so he's got this kind of group of of mutants around him and i wonder if if he would have turned some other people in the mutants and day fought swamp thing and we got us. Come up into the end just as normal as normal kind of bond villain self. They'd just done the unman like it wasn't the comics. Granted that probably eats into their effects budget though to have more of them but they could have space taken out or taken apart that costuming given different aspects to their actors more than they could've maybe save some budget and not have the guy cut are often have it regenerate like it did because it looked like shit it looked all right for nineteen eighty two. It looked like shit. I mean there's the thing is it's not it wouldn't have been cutting edge for nine hundred eighty two. It was fine. I guess it looks like it. Looks like gumby gumby are growing. Looked like like claymation gumby afford. Did you watch. I'm saying like it looked like it was taken from say that looked like the same style of claymation that gumby was from and i don't i don't appreciate that. Hey pickle humor fucker you cut off. I arm jays kombi. I'm sorry you don't appreciate that. I did not like this movie at all. I remember watching it as a kid and kind of enjoying it and just know so many knows so much crap. I had to laugh out loud at one point it just well first of all who takes a bath at a swamp. It's a swamp. Does it really matter. I mean if you're in the water. You're yeah but i'm saying like if you wanna get clean you don't take your your soap and your wash cloth into the swamp. Just go take a bath like a normal person who who to swap. Who took a bath. Adrian barbarian bocek abandoned one point. She didn't have soap and a towel and shit she was doing something anyway. That just as a sign. What made me. Outright laugh was the one seen. When when swamp thing decides he didn't want the diary anymore that the book six out of seven or whatever and he throws it away but he all he did was throw it down the path. He was already walking down. I'm like i'm just going to throw this picking up what i walk over to it. It made me laugh. You threw it away in anger but all stood on the past absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the movie of nothing in writing that which just one little thing that made me laugh. Well i wonder one of the things that i think. This caused us to suffer a bit in terms of the effects of money they had is that they shot so much of it. In at daybreak daylight that you can't hide imperfections in the daylight and they kind of remedy that moving forward. But i'm wondering if they would have had more nighttime shoots if that would have possibly added a bit of more to it without seeing all the flaws and screaming daylight. I mean does that. What do to act better at night. While i'm just saying in terms of like the suit drawbacks and You know basically the facts aspects of it because it's dark it's a dark universe at the character then you you do the one regeneration scene at all in the dark because the whole concept is the light is what's big and regenerate. Well that's one scene. But i'm talking about in in in general like the film mike. If it took place in darker lit areas could they have had more and maybe made it a little bit more made it a little bit more mysterious right instead of being bright daylight and you're like what the fuck is running around a weltman suit for you know but one hundred percent they would have. It would have serviced them to not have the main villain drake the stuff and turn into a werewolf if had just had some kind of flare pig where where rare wherever wherever they should have more like a wear bore man bears their pay pig guys guys skies really. Cereal super serial. So yeah this. This movie was not good is my is my short review of it way to play our hand the head of time really like we're going to be like any of us are astounded by that right. Well i told laura before. I sat down with her to watch it on mike. Pets gonna hate this movie. There's no doubt about that. Yeah yeah that's a no brainer. Now new got pat would hate it. I knew you would love it. And mike and i were going to be the question marks. Well i'm going to say. I have fond memories of this movie watching it back when i was like twelve years old. I think that's only because i. I had not seen any other good movies. How much do you see when you're twelve. We had nothing to judge it by like. Yeah well the bar was pretty low. I mean it was this and start crash. Speaking when adrian barbara read the script. I was watching an interview with earlier today. She's like she's like i. When i read it i was like this could be the next star wars and i was like. Wow the script must have really changed a lot like a lot. But i i knew josh was going to be one of the people that knew the backstory beyond the the movie and i thought mike might but yeah pat. Pat was the hundred percent. There was no question he was gonna hated. Don't you act like you know me. I know you we know you. I like things. Just not that suck. We've been over this. Oh you like things at suck to sometimes forty-three all i want for christmas is you. It's a fair cop. It's just the greatest christmas song ever written. Have we kicked this man bear pig. I think we have kicked the man. Bear pig mummum aware bore. Those is so scenario. You look lo you is shocked. All the time he was freaky. What was it frigging cocoon came out of. That's where all member pigs come from. They get turned into a leech like a particularly badly. Put together rubber leach like somebody described a to somebody who had never really seen a leech. Yeah i was like. Is that supposed to be a leech. Okay i could see that he's supposed to be like a leech on society that's a cocoon and now he's aware wolf. I guess pig. Maybe he was. Elite rolled around on the floor in somebody's house. That dogs men pig accumulated all the hair man pig and they weren't as realized they were just googly. Isaac davis is all know what they look. They look like those candy. Is that you put on like a key a cupcake and make it look like a dog or something you put a little candy is on there. That's what looked like he was a man. Bear pig cupcake. Mytalk man better paid cake. All right. it's made of super serial. You need to get sophie demand. Kick mander pig. I've got to get her to watch a movie. I and that's a bigger hurdle making having her. Make your cake. Cakes gonna be terrible. Then she's basing it off the character in the film going to be one hundred percent fondant ball ifan to is on it and hair all right of a break. We're done mander pig is done will back. And we're gonna talk about the twenty nine teen swamp thing that tv show man bear pig free wherever multiple attempts remaking this torn in nineteen they said. Hey let's do it again. Yeah this one. Twenty nineteen swamp thing the series on the cw. Abby arcane returns home tomorrow ice marez marais marais louisiana marais. I just said that you had it. Yeah yeah thank you jerk to investigate a deadly swamp borne virus only to discover the dark terrifying mysteries of the swamp. So all right one of those dark terrifying mysteries is. There's not a alligator or snake to be seen in any of the swamps. Yeah people are really really Casual jump into the swamp about jumping into the da. Like i always think don't jump off the swamp they're alligators there and these people are like swamp first thing have. We tried jumping into the swamp. Yes definitely all right so moving. What does we have crystal read as abby. Arcane of virginia madsen as maria sunderland know her from dune candyman. andy bean bowling alec holland Also having a great name he's been in He was stanley in chapter to earn up. Stanley up stanley adere. And you guys probably heard of his brother l. l. i mr. Those jokes belong together in a swamp. Derek mirrors placed swamp thing for all ten episodes. And you may know him as playing jason voorhees. Two thousand nine remake of friday the thirteenth and classic predator from the predators. Moving is on holliston. Yes henderson wade met cable He was the assistant he. Ncis head to be you. Something called on the bravo station. Girlfriends guide to divorce which sounds just as awesome as you think. It would be On maria maria. sten- has liz tremaine as the monkey. Best friend back in town. She's known for swamp thing straddled compton and something called channel zero. Oh i've heard good things about that. Yes canadian i think we also have journal prescott as madame xanadu and for patrick i kept referring to her as voodoo mama juju. Every time she was on. I figured you'd do is is like a de l'est dc character. There's a few of those the pop up here seal. She was a jackie in the walking. Dead and mama. Cecile in the movie the skeleton key which if you haven't seen it probably worth watching at least once yeah i. It's good you haven't seen it yet. Now that's crazy. Yeah you should probably watch it. Yeah it's it's got got the kind of twist at like to to those movies also will. Patton is in this as avery. Sunderland under makeup a little more makeup small makeup. I do too. Yeah he was a little all over the place in this but he in general i like him. Yeah but chick from armageddon. He is a radio flash. He was in that. Naturally that looks like a great movie radio flash More recently he is than twenty twenty one or something called the forever. Purge that he's in. I added a final purge movie. Oh what we all ask for and seventeen season. Two of the series. Now that's all right So we also have. Kevin durand as jason woodrow You know him from x men origins wolverine little john in The twenty ten robin hood. I am number four. He was also the voice of kings arcand in voltron legendary defender of which we did a show and vassily in the strain and when he came out it took a while for us to figure out because he didn't have the beard he didn't have the accent and his hair was red. Look dork and recently. i was watching vikings of sarah and when he showed up as hard who was basically a guard. I was like holy shit. That's governor in. Oh biking's now. I was just going to say it. Looks like a child actor who grew up. he's also one of the. He's the leader of the mercenaries in the later seasons of lost. Oh that's right. That's the first time he like. Even though he was in x men origins and three ten to yuma and smoke. nasa's lost would be the first time. I started taking notice of him. Martin yes. I remember him when he appealed up that face and beard for great time. Finally jennifer beals. Who you may know as alex from flashdance. Yes she's the town sheriff and mother to Matt cable yep lucia cables lucia cable. There's only one some trivia on this one. The town of mariah's louisiana is french for swamp. Yep they're young. Adrian barbosa star eighty two moving also guest stars as a cdc doctor in this Dr palomar she shows up this. Tv show was shot in cinemascope which is unusual for a television series They used footage of swamp thing at the end of the crisis on infinite earths crossover. Cdw dc shows took place on earth. Nineteen second dc role for christopher reed crystal read after sofia fall cone from gotham in twenty fourteen. We i thought that was interesting. That she played in another dc show but not the same character. Yeah and this was canceled. The show was cancelled before the second episode aired though they allowed it to do ten episodes to finish out the season i was gonna say if you watched it on the cw. You may have noticed that there was a lot of blurring of the mouths because originally for the dc universe their own streaming service. But it was canceled on. That picked up by the cw but they had to bleep out all the fox. Yeah that that took for a moment. I wasn't sure what was going on. If i had like a bad stream or something. Well it was supposed to be thirteen episodes originally and once it got cancelled. They short did and tried to. They had one of the articles. I read so they tried to give it a satisfying finish But if you watch the last episode. Andy watch the post credits scene. It was not satisfied. It was that it actually made it worse because there were building towards jason would rue being What fluorine man. Or whatever flurry and men. And basically i mean woodrow is a d. lister he's really only significant for the creation of poison ivy. But if his big deal. If you guys didn't even finish it loo- no or any of you gonna finish. No no i'm might. I mean this. This was fairly accurate to the my favorite run of the comics. Aside from a couple of choices which will get into well if if anybody is watching and decides is unsure about it. The very last shot in it is is The the cut scene Matt cable shows up and finds jason withdrew who has now turned into florida and man. So they had an effect with him in full display like he is completely turned at that point and he looks to floor and man. Yeah he looks just like the comic the hell's fluorine man. I like a giant tree. He looks like he is a plant. Based villain whose whole deal is very much like poison ivy where they're like all about protection of the plant world but kill all the humans only like he was the scientists that accidentally created poison ivy and his whole deal is basically just like poison ivy only not hot but the character looks like a giant tree more or less drew tree at poison ivy basically basically but i mean he's he's as big if not bigger than something right he. He's only elevated from his dealer status because he was in the allen more run and eleanor. Love doing it. They love taking these characters from the bottom of the barrel. And it's like let's see what these guys feel if we put them into some story with actual good writing. That's how you got guys like the blue devil who also appeared in this. Yeah i don't know if you've got to see him actually be mental. Unless they bailed on episode one. They should have at least seen him because he was in. The second episode wasn't the devil yet but he was like there's a poster of him as the dental when he turns into the devil. It's fucking dark. And i mean dark like i was like holy shit. This is not what i was expecting from that character when you see the comic book version of him like the old comedy like the poster like the movie he was. Then it's just he's just a murdering fucking demon messed up anyway. So if you can't tell. I watch the entire run. I watched until i got to the phantom stranger. Which was my biggest problem now. I saw a clip of that. When i was on youtube bounce around trying to find stuff on this. What's the deal with the phantom stranger. All that's one of the questions like there's like four or five different origins like phantom stranger is a fallen angel or phantom stranger is cain or but he he's basically unkillable super powerful but forbidden to directly resolve any big crisis he can like show up and he can like protect superman from spells. He can give advice to batman. He's like the supernatural jack knife but he can't be the person who like ends the problem and unfortunately they decided to make him randomly this doughy dude with a beard. That's making blair is. The is the actor. I love making blair. He's does a lot of indie stuff. And he's currently working on the remake of toxic avenger. Ironically enough he could be the best actor in the world and it would still be miscast. Well the phantom stranger is not a middle aged dude. I mean he never has been no. I agree with you. I dislike him. Blair so i was happy to see him but i agree with you. It was not a good casting choice aside from that. Like i thought the effects were mostly good because they camouflage of budget on. Cgi with doing night shots. Nah like any other stuff. That was in. The daytime looked a lot worse. But the stuff and night actually look pretty good and this pretty comic accurate. Well that fucking seen in the morgue was fucking like thing like reminded me a lot of the thing like it was leaned the horror. Yeah for sure will Mike mentioned mentioned earlier God been vinton Vincenzo batali who directed the first to lend len wiseman director. The first represents Of underworld but vincenzo naantali. A couple of well and most people will know him from cube cube. Oh really yeah okay. And then y len wiseman You know is pretty pretty well known as a action horror director. So he's a good choice for for this. I liked james one. I know that i like him. I if i remember right julia kind of lukewarm on him. I'm not a james bond fan. I i think he's good at creating interesting stories but he just does not finish them. What else does he done. Saw conjuring insidious. I'll the all that the james one of any of that conjuring annabel. Oh and but size. What got him started. His his breakout. Which causes solid film. I i i like. I like the first one was definitely. Yeah i definitely like the first one he produced this and It's got his hands over. Okay i agree with josh. I felt like it. it was It was on point with and they were taking a lot of cues from from the allen. More run. I mean right up to the point. Where within by the ninth episode. He while the end of the eighth episode he realized that he wasn't alec holland. Any went back to the swamp to get his body and started to kind of struggle with the fact that he wasn't who he thought he was. Yeah i dug that. Just their inspiration was great. I understand that there were some legal problems to get. Constantine involved some licensing issues this constantine show up because i was able to watch all of it knocked know that was one of the problems is like constantine was actually pretty important to the ellen more run and a they just weren't able to sort out the rights god it which is about the same time they had to live action concentrated show well and would have been perfect They cry i mean. They crossed over in the justice league. Dark but not. Yeah not not in this. Unfortunately and i kind of felt like they were building too because abby shows up and you know there's no mention that i remember of of her father or stepfather i should say So i was wondering if they were building up to have him pop up in a later season. That's what i was thinking because there's a lot of. I didn't finish all of this but i wanted to know since i saw the direction it was going how it was gonna go when i was little disappointed that there's a whole lot of loose ends that they were forced to just leave hanging there. We had mentioned that the that swamp thing is not who he thinks he is. And that was actually. I wondered. i saw that. That was actually given away because they had a poster for swamp thing was carrying the body. I mean if you're familiar with the comics you might have. You would have caught that probably. Yeah but you're talking promotional material. They had him like carrying. Yeah they had. They had swamping carrying allah collins body and like some poster or something in it was like wait a way to give it away. Thank you i mean. It's it's a decomposed corpse. So you can't see the facial features but if you've read the comic at well and he's wearing a name tag says aleka does you. Sutherland is is a key. As a character. From the books as jason would ruin and matt cable so i feel like they were leading up to anton arcane they just i keep hoping that they're going to get it picked up. Somebody's gonna pick it up and looks like his dead man. I mean i. It's it's a bummer. To me i kinda wanna hear from the guys. That aren't like huge character. I mean i got to associate into it. Watch i mean okay. Take back with other people got to episodes into it. Got a little bit more into it. You know on my own. I just think that. I know the swamp thing universe is really deep. It just seems to me that the swamp thing character will be better delivered with a one really good movie versus a piecemeal trying to throw trying to tv show off of it. I think the budget for a movie would be better for the sort of thing. And i think they can get better writers for also. That's just my take on the character itself. I really don't think i'm gonna go back to it it it as much as i enjoy the the vertigo comics of the day. And all that. This swamping wasn't my thing back. Then and now it's you know it's i'm just did not get the job off of this one pad the. I'm curious about patrick. I stroke to really wrap up my feelings on this because it's it's well done you know well shot. It looks good. I enjoyed it. I didn't dislike it or anything. It's you know but the subject matter. Just don't don't care about the swamp thing. I just don't i thought it was an interesting dynamic to have like the whole swap like almost come to life and everything and be part of his attacks and that kind of thing that he could you know. Bring the trees out to attack for him and stuff like that you know i mean it was all interesting but i just i wasn't at all captivated and you know it looked good. It was you know. I had no issues with it. It wasn't like at any point. I was just bored with it or anything but i just didn't. I just didn't care we'll pat and a lot has performance was was pretty good. I thought I mean they just kept setting up like all these different little teases and twists and stuff. And i just found myself just like whatever. I was never even interested in like what happened with this. This the main character and how she killed her best friend on her eighteenth birthday of prom or whatever it was. I just never cared. I mean like. It's just tough to like well i mean not to not be trite. But it's tough to care about something you don't care about around episode ten. What is seen jake busy. That's would have been worth. It will change my mind record this next week so i can watch all the way to that i mean he got his job ripped off. So you know spoiler then he was all teeth. It's like having watch house of wax. Just a watch. Paerson get killed. It's funny like i. I'm i care about the character. So my opinion sort of like patrick's except i actually did like the show. I did care about a little bit. But i'm also not gonna finish it unless it gets picked up and i don't think it's getting picked up like this is one of those where i don't want to devote more time into a show a good show version of a story. I already know if. I'm not going to get to see more of it. Yeah and and the cw. While i do respect the fact that they're going all these characters at the majority of people out there are gonna be like adult swamp. What you know it. I'd rather them focus on one. Good one like take more on. Constantine or take more time on swamp thing not try and like play narrow in deep. Don't play wide you know. I'm not sure what the deal is with a production on this why they decided to disconnect it from it. It's a different tone from the air. Over so i guess i could see why doesn't exist there. It's like dc. get your shit together. I'll always be a marvel fan boy. But i think he even if you're primarily a dc fan maybe especially if you're dc van. You have to be disappointed with what they're doing right now because there's so much potential that's wasted by them just like not getting it together. That's that's my biggest problem with these see is a you know. Even though there could be an argument said that a lot of the marvel properties up to recent with things like one division being excluded. You know you kinda know what you're going to get when you go into a marvel movie not that they're all carbon copy cutouts but there is kind of a a specific kind of base formula. That goes into the film's not that they're bad films. I love him but with dc. You'd never know quite what you're going to get. And because there's inconsistencies between who's playing what character and they keep rebooting and retrying and doing different versions of the same character gets kind of like it gets a little hard to follow it because if you start to like a character then all of a sudden you get another movie or tv show with somebody else playing the same character maybe in a different way maybe in the same way. And you're like okay. Wait i was just being played by so and so it's like it's it's frustrating. I mean sometimes you get things like joker which were amazing. But i don't know it's that's my biggest problem with dc and this does feel like a disconnect because i mean i enjoyed what i saw. Gotham and i am curious about supergirl and i really like to watch Do patrol but. I'm just not sure what you're going to get. And if they're not all kind of connected because he's characters crossover. I mean swamp thing has met a majority of the other dc characters at one point or another so he's part of that universe Powerful part of that universe dc needs to get their shit together they all come hang out in the swamp or something. I mean as long as he's somewhere where there's life plant life you know he's connected to unless allies about central park right. I mean he's essentially channel. He's essentially eternal as long as there's life on earth he's got up basically a power source and unlimited powers and a lot of ways not entirely but is he. He's a lot more. What's that nothing a lot more than they show him in there. He's a lot more powerful than what they show in in this series. But i enjoyed it. I like i said i really liked to and we watch the whole thing and i was. I knew going into it that no matter what they said about it having a finish by a episode. I'm like there's no way they're going to wrap up all the storylines before the tenth episode and rather than try. I mean i felt like abbie swamps floppies story kind of met a a enough of a soft close that you could have ended it but then they throw in a couple of other things and the whole thing with Woodyear at the end. And it's like okay. You just gave me the middle finger at this point. So i don't know i don't regret it. I don't regret getting into. But i i can't finish it knowing that it's not going to end the way i want it to like. I'd like to see them play out through the love triangle with matt and abby and swamp thing and they're just not going to have the time to ever do that and i'm not gonna finish it knowing that i don't care i mean i don i understand that there's a whole lower behind swamp thing i thought i like swamp thing until i watched the first movie and i just i don't know i guess that kind of broke me because i don't like this at all and as good as well as this was done. I just didn't care anymore now. Don't care about swamping so this is one of those times when going back and looking at something for my childhood really sucked i was like. Oh so no. What don't maybe. Maybe you should watch the cartoons because if you watch cartoons you'll appreciate everything a lot more because you want to talk about awful awful. I think i think it's awful. You should not pretty much not gonna watch. La lumping kind. Yeah it's legitimately awful. I don't know i've i just i. I relate to the character. Not that i feel like i'm him but he's one of the characters that i for whatever reason they connect you with that character. He's he's he's a said like a frankenstein. Tormented spotting character. I'm but thank right but my spirit animal that's true but you know he's he's live is life with with the green and derail me. I get asked. i just waits by the ads. 'cause you're waiting for any sort of heroin to fall down. I'll help you if you if you're within reach. Which incidentally speaking of the cartoon the original theme song from the first episode they wrote s- wild thing than wrote and sang swamp thing and a apparently. They realized that they couldn't do that. Because in the second episode. Because i did watch to episodes of it. It was the same lyrics but they rewrote the song and the song doesn't fit with the lyrics and it just sounds awful. You really sell in this. I don't write. it was a cash. Grab it's clearly it was. The cartoon was awful. The songs were all. Everything sucks when i was on the fence until you said that that song trash and then i'm like trash song i may be. I mean if you want to see our turn turn into a giant spider that drives around a swamp. Buster vehicle no. Don't want to see the in swamping has to drive around in a in a car. Buster not going to see that is. I'm not gonna watch it. Please tell me that. They're driving like the old matchbox cars like had the spiderman car had the biggest men head sticking out of the top. Kinda i mean. They're one of the guys to cupcake is has a gun that shoots swamp water so fire. Hose kind of another guy. Should you be worried. The swamp is a clean place around. You can bathe in it. Yeah there's no there's no alligators or spiders or snakes or nothing. there's not even crawfish super clean like a swimming pool out. There was trees. That's what it is and parasites. No no one ever get sick from anything other than that. If they add something to swab you get sick but if you're just in the swamp you're fine it's concerning about how many times you see people like in the swamp. Okay you get you get shot in the swamp you fall in the water almo. God you're gonna die. I'd be more worried about falling in the swamp water than i would about get shot at that point because you're like okay. She says you're bleeding and you know yeah. Open wounded a swamp. There is a recipe for disaster. Right there but i mean that is one thing that i had a problem with with the series because there was a lot of people want what was wondering wandering around in slump at night like abbey's just like hanging out in the swamp psych deadlocking around and not one alligator in that entire series. I mean in the series. You've got the plant life crushing anything. That's alive. I'm going gonna give them that one a magic swamp that is constantly being shown strangling living things. I i'm not gonna dunk on them for not having alligators. Yeah that's my. That's my argument fair cup. That's the noise. Pat makes when he knows i'm right. We've heard that before. Wouldn't we have heard something from any of the characters in some point being like man. There's nothing living in these swamps anymore. My my alligator tail business is drying up. They know that there's weird. Shit in the swamps that comes up like five times in the first two episodes yes true business alligator tail. They people heat alligator tails. It's the thing. I i pick up on an initial and now mike. Hey should i have said allocating one episode field strips. a turtle. what you've got really like trying to get people to watch shows. Yeah you wanna see somebody take turtle. No there's there's watch that or the one thing that wants adder cannibal holocaust but that's a real turtle. Yeah he takes it apart and he puts it. He's making a stew with the bar and restaurant that one girls data owns I've doubting narrow strip turtle it's pretty but he's a pretty. He just put like parts of the turtle in the steel. And he he takes a spoonful have a taste. I'm like you don't want to eat that before it's cooked. You don't wanna eat raw turtle but says there is. I don't want to get whatever you flu. Ballgame self a bad guess theraflu got the donna. Tella turtle enough for the turtle flu. You did not just patrick. Oh i did. We become best friends. Gosh you wanna call it. I think joel justin sold that one. That scene made me laugh. Well all right. i'm calling roper. Yes so we should go to the traditional thumbs up thumbs down. I guess totally So i'll do this jol thumbs up thumbs down man. Yo yo it's thumbs up all the way round if you couldn't tell already it's apollo around well right field serpent turtle josh. I'm gonna go thumbs down for the original but thumbs up for the series. Just because i'm not gonna watch it again doesn't mean i didn't enjoy what i saw. Okay and i'm thumbs up for then natural quality more for the. I remember watching this unlike in something was wrong with me But yeah no. It's a thumbs up and thumbs down. I just couldn't get into it just was not Not for me. But patrick i would give a thumbs down to the then. Unfortunately i was very saddened by how much i didn't like it and i will give a believe it or not thumbs up to the now even though i wasn't into it it's not my bag. It's not my whatever. I mean i. I don't think he deserves thumbs down. It wasn't horrible. It just was just not my bag. You this book it says swamp think totally is my bag man but yeah no i i. I'm not gonna say thumbs down. Just because i didn't like it. I didn't like it because it didn't interest me. I didn't like you know it wasn't because it was horrible product. You know fair enough joel. What are we have on the horizon. Well we got a little cyberpunk coming up and we're gonna talk about personal favorite one blow the cuckoo's nest virtuous the recent Netflix series nurse ratchet. Nice all right so if you have any suggestions you have your own thoughts on swamp thing have a suggestion of maybe a show. We should do in the future. Let us know. Give a seven hundred now. 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Survivor 39 Episode 12 This Week in Survivor with Akiva Wienerkur

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Survivor 39 Episode 12 This Week in Survivor with Akiva Wienerkur

"Stockham bow take a in Queens so we can smartest one and as we said. Ah Yeah that is the sounds of will from America singing the theme song to This week in survivor the hottest up and coming survivor podcast of quarter. Four and here. We are to talk about everything that's going on here with my co host. The Great Mr Jordan Kayla has gone up is great. I'm very excited. Because today we have a guest here who lost a bet my favorite way a to get a person on the podcast for those of you. Who Don't know this man? He is the Co host of Robin Akiva. You need a podcast. He also was my co host for the Seinfeld Post show recap for the initiated. We podcast about a season of curb your enthusiasm though. I don't know if we'll do weekly recaps for the upcoming curb your enthusiasm season. He's also the CO host and founder of the thirty thirty two fans podcast talking about the NFL and sports at large and a bunch of other. Nonsense please welcome the man they call Winokur Akiva winokur. I'm the founder of thirty two fans but I'm just coast of her nap. Founded Robin Akiva. Need a podcast. You want to you want me to call you the CO founder of Robin guests. I don't think anybody's been ever been called the founder of any podcast. Oh contraire Mon Freyre they say to you to rob calling you. The founder of Thirty Two fans I think Jessica Essay about he was doing it before Chester. Y- The story and drew. Yes her guy named Ari Gold. That's right with the ones entourage. Were the ones. We're losing losing all right. Okay here we are. I'm very excited to have a Kiva here with us to talk about survivor. Akiva course he and I have talked about the the autumn it Matt Rankings King of the Matt's on the most recent episode of Robin Akina. PODCAST apparently Jordan Kayla. I've already he done that exercise for survivor with not the gory a few weeks back. But here you are Akiva pumped up to talk about some survivor. I guess I am a what. Can you explain the initiated and me who forgot what was the bet we made that I lost that I have to come on the show way back when it was probably the the second week of these survivor season. You and his first week of October you and I were podcasting on Robin and keeping you to podcast and we had okay this week in Robin Akiva history quiz with the aforementioned Mr Jordan Kayla and in a huge which come from behind victory I ended up being the winner and the stakes were if I lost then I had to go double or nothing on wife gene wishes where I had to then grant six wishes for my wife and then if you lost you were going to appear on this podcast. I'm okay I in hindsight like you having to do a lot of wishes for your wife wasn't a lot of upside for me. Yeah Hey so that was a dump at Okay Dr Not right well you're here and you resisted nothing on what if I win twitch today I don't know come back for next season I something about twelve wife wishes I won a month for the whole twenty. Okay all right but Kiva is here what was the trepidation. Trepidation here to be on this. PODCAST was it that you didn't WanNa take the quiz or your problem with Jordan Kayla. I've no promise Kayla has come on thirty two fans many times. He's he's my friend. Can I tell you we had. I went to a the jets giants game last month. And can I tell you the cruise it was it was As the Children Jenner saying nowadays pretty lit. Yeah it was myself Akiva Whitacre. My Father Rabbi. Louis Wain Accor- my ninety year old grandfather Howard Weiner Ker and and Jordan Taylor that was crew at the jets. Giants Abe so listen Jordan. Even though sometimes I mean two months. podcasts were friends in real life so I know no. It's not an anti Jordan thing first of all it's two thirty two am I knew I'd have to do this at night and I already do three podcasts a week. Who wants four podcasts? In a week I know you would never want to do right when you enter the jets giants game did Jordan recruit any of your relatives to play in fake survivor seasons. I will say my dad had was sitting next to Jordan because I sit next GRANDPA and he. My father was just making small talk with him. And my father said like Kiva. And he said Why podcast casts with Rob and then my dad asked a very fair question. What Jordan? What kind of podcasts do you do with Rob Jordan had explained like well? Are you familiar with television. Shows Survivor. which which might have probably isn't had like well? We don't talk about that. We do like a quiz based on historical events of that. So my Dad I think my dad is a rabbi. Hi and sixty but he was started giving Jordan. Ah Wedgie Jordan. How was your week is pretty good? I mean look I I started. I started basketball coaching this week. I have a team of twenty one middle school kids which is way too many for basketball team. So that's it's a little a bit stressful. But what are you gonNA do signed up. I'm not allowed to make cuts so and I've been teaching like usual so pretty pretty good but crazy week okay. aright jets giants games jets giants games with three workers this week all right. Let's get into this week in survivor. We're because it Kiva. This was a real miracle happened on survivor this week. A real festivus miracle that we have the idea. What's coming up here on survivor week after week? And this was the week that you were scheduled to appear. We have no sort of advance knowledge and really really the biggest seinfeld survivor. Crossover of all time occurred on the episode this this week and we had that when charisma was explaining about Nora's grievances and here's what she had to say it was. There was a bit of an airing of grievances con. festivus airing of this going on so Akiva. Can you believe it. I mean I can't believe it. It's like a really popular thing. Yeah did you think we were. The only people who've seen Seinfeld like people on survivor survivor aren't real and the game watch TV. I don't think that we're the only people that have ever seen Seinfeld. But it's been thirty nine seasons and we don't really get one man unfilled reference. Well I thought about this week I talked about this During the live show. Is that the only Seinfeld referenced events in the history of the show and I was actually. I'm surprised that nobody pointed this out to my attention. Because I believe there was one that came from last season as in when there was an exchange between Aurora and at Ron Clark where Ron Clark described auroras behavior with rationing the rice the Rice Nazi. I thought that's a Seinfeld reference. I think it is too. I think he's definitely making us. You've not to reference there in season. One wasn't Kale Master. His own domain. Wasn't that it wasn't that a Seinfeld reference. Hell season to season two. Sorry sorry sorry. Yeah Fed by why because the the beef Jerky was isn't that wasn't that the legend. I'm making stuff up. Hold on a second. So you're saying that that's the great mystery of was cal eating beef Jerky or not you say that. No not not jerky the you say that he was no longer the Lord of the manor the King of the castle. He was not master of his domain. My defaming him for no reason and Mr Remembering things I don't know I mean maybe that's maybe that was a cover story the so I don't know I heard that one not heard that one. That's what kills cover story was. It might not be a thing. I still don't know if his name is pronounced. Keller cal that's that's not the mystery that I'm going with so here we are I. It's it's festivus airing of grievances and AKIVA. Uh I was just wondering should we. Should we go all out and celebrate festivus this week on this week in survivor I should we. Should we air any other grievances. Ours are feats of strength. We do that. I feel like you could've asked us before and I would have come up with a lot of grievances silence's CAN I. Can I circle back to the master of his domain joke. That should have killed people. Didn't know what I was talking about. Yes I miss up the season. So there's a survivor. Reddit thread. That says is there any precedent of all eleven and under turn. Turn on the PODCAST for a minute. Any precedents of Masturbation on survivor. You're wondering if there's ever a couple of season the top voted comment is where maybe it's the most recent rob see. said he thought about it at eight thirty four views uh-huh uh-huh but that's not the important thing somebody says. I remember reading that Kale got caught with Jerky but he was actually caught not doing something else but they made it more TV friendly so I didn't make that up okay. I that I had not heard the CAL thing. When I first came off of survivor then I got to start talking to people that had been on survivor before me? That was one of my questions that I had asked people and I had heard like. Oh no he really did have beef jerky. That was the story that I had heard. And they do a very thorough bag inspection before we went to play in the Amazon and the reason for that was was because I had always heard that he really did have it. So and then maybe that's the cover story and maybe that's the key to a successful cover story have made the cover story. Something really embarrassing. You wouldn't WanNa tell people but just cl- closed the book on the beef Jerky Pay. I think he had to beef jerky. Okay okay so now everything. That's come up in this. PODCAST has been resolved and and taking care of okay. Let's turn this in the airing of grievances keep it sounds like you had a survivor grievance. I mean I'm sure I have many first of all you came up with it. So what's your survivor grievance Well my very very many a lengthy list at this point I I really do feel you like that. One of the big grievances with show is just too much in there. And there's two there's two people and and we're getting to the point where now like we're down. We got down to seven and then next week. We'll get down to six and it's the finale and then I was thinking about how in my own season and when I played in the Amazon we you know there were seven. People left in the game with like four episodes left right like there's a lot of the season that gets Yada Yada. I think they're too scared to have three dozen the finale and they they they realize. Is that if you have five or six people going into the finale. You're guaranteed to have one fan favourite in there where people can pin their hopes on. They realized the season Karadzic. Hey yeah that they can't they can't stick you with three or four and you know not have a superstar in there and just seems like a huge over correction correction for. They had one season where somebody had like the Mersa infection on the beach and then a lot of people were getting it and and that was sort of like you know the you know eight nightmare situation for a survivor season. I won't say the nightmare situation for survivor season season and it was. I think there was kind of like a like a black swan event that I mean. What are the chances that's going to happen again? Yeah and I mean I don't know I think I think once they nowadays once they do something like that. It's it's hard to get them to switch back to an old school thing. Yeah and look if that ever happens again you know okay this season of survivor. Here's a twist. It's thirty four days Jordan. Would that be the end of the world. Thirty four days people just thirty four day season. Who Cares I mean? I don't think we want to say I don't think we want But I agree with your take though I mean. I think if we're going to Yada Yada portion of the season that should be the early game not yen game. I think it's more interesting when we're able to see the dynamics ex- further down the road and I think this is a great example. I mean we were talking about. How great the pre merge was and it was a really good pre merged but has anyone really really remember the season for the pre merge no is going to be remembered as one of the week or seasons in survivor history so I I think the pre merge it's good to have a fun pre merge coach but it isn't as necessary to the overall success of the season as the end game and I think it would be better if we were going into? The finale was like no more than five people. I want to go back to this with Akiva because it sounds like that he's really Pooh poohing. My idea of you run out of people just short in the season. You can't do that Akiva. You're gonNA have now okay. Hey we're down to four people with ten days left we're just GONNA sit there and watch them. Yeah just hanging out maybe you'll get some good. TV I mean usually not. There's a reason why shows like this. Have you know. Big Brother will have like eleven people left in August and they won't do the double boot until later You know the the more people have the more drama. There is in the house. Things get very slow on any reality show when you're down to a handful of people in the house. I don't think there's a problem with it. The show all like if you think about it in terms of days they do the cycles of three early and too late so you know you're you're up to your. We're already up to a thirty thirty two. Yeah so you no. And they're still they're still seven people so you're never going to have a final. You know three or four sitting around on day thirty four or three people Drown or something like that. Yeah I mean. We're not that that far off the schedule in terms of the the game where you know there are seven in days left in the game but basically like three and a half hours of the show left to explain what's going to happen the rest of the way and I don't think that's enough time to really tell the story like all these Games so muddled in my head and I go back and I watched them over and over again and talk about them and just the the end game is just so so blurry in terms of of like how it gets reported to us in in the Amazon for instance that Alex voted out at seven. I think that was on day thirty. So like it's not like the word that Far off in terms of like the days. It's just like the episodes television but this maybe this is a nitpicky thing Jordan. Yeah I mean I would like I said before I would like to see the end game more flushed out in the in the. I think you're right. I think when we look at some of these seasons it's hard to even remember what happened in some of these these finales and I'm someone who read survivor Trivia question. So when I'm when I'm looking back these old seasons I have more memories about the finale episodes of the first ten seasons than I do have the most recent season so I think you have a point there so keep it just to go back to the festivus survivor metaphor. I mean I do think that survivor really does incorporate all of the key elements of festivus between between it You know like we saw. There are many airings of the grievances. On on the survivor. There are many feats of strength and often in opole is very much incorporated into these challenges. Yeah that's a good point. I didn't think about that though. It really is a a very compatible with with festivus. Yeah I'm trying to think of other seinfeld survive crossovers. Jonathan Penner was on both shows I'm trying to. I don't think anybody else up my head. Yeah so all right also that it's also notable AKIVA since we're talking to Seinfeld that this is also the first season with a member of the or any member of the core for Elaine is on this season there was a jerry in token jeans And also Jerry Map Mantha Yay fill different. Yes but no survivor know survivor. George correct well. There's there's a there's a Taj Johnson George Chicken George Chick chicken Georgia's big brother. And then no COSMO. No no COSMO Kramer. I ruled survivor Kramer. Just in case there was a Someone with Kramer that we're missing but only survivor Maryland comes comes up. I don't think that's cannon. Yeah only for Jordan. Yeah Okay Alright. Akiva I know Vit- visit you and I talk at least once a week extensively but we don't talk a ton about survivor. Do you have any thoughts about the season that you wanted to get out up there or anybody that you really enjoying this season. I have some thoughts I is I can't remember season. where a more excited for but I anticipate more the reunion show more than like actually carrying? But who's going to win because I'm super curious. How Jeff and Co or going to handle the whole damn thing just everything about the season? Do you have any theories about how you think. It's going to be handled it. But finale I really have no idea. I don't know I you know I asked you. This OUGHTA podcast the few weeks ago and I knew you had no idea either i. I don't know if that's changed but they you know. We don't know if Dan's going to be there right and if he is like why would he show up just to get paraded right I really you know based on what we've seen so far I. I don't expect a berating to happen and I kind of feel like that. He probably wants to tell his side of the story and he's is GonNa get booed. I think I didn't think about the audience reaction in length don't make can I mean. Sometimes they you know you know if it's a talk show. They sort of tell Dan. You can and can't cheer I don't Know How do you police that though on live. TV It's hard. I don't know I think that they probably you know usually really With the exception of survivor all stars finale which was at Madison Square Garden. I feel like that the audience is please eighty positive if I can't recall a time recently and maybe you do Jordan where anybody got a less than favorable reaction from the survivor. Finales allie crowd. No I mean I've definitely been viewing parties before like when they go to a kid in the audience they go to like Terry Bradshaw or something. There's some there's are some booing in the room that I'm in no not actually in the survivor. Finales Room Yeah. I just suspect that this is going to be. He's like an abbreviated discussion. I don't think it's going to monopolize the finale. I kind of think that they'll have the they'll talk about the winner. Who who is going to be? And I think that they'll they'll definitely touch on this subject and then I think it's going to be sort of Yada the Yada Yada. Let's talk about what's coming up this spring. I don't think that they're going to really dwell on this. A lot of the finale cuma we also you You know people who pay close attention this stuff. The reading of the votes has been happening at about ten twenty five season so that reunion show is really half hour I think they they realize realized that the ratings really tank once the winter's been announced so if you could basically make the finale two and a half hours instead of to you only have a half hour of weaker ratings Yeah so We'll see what goes on there. Do you have any characters this season that you are especially enjoying Akiva. There's two characters actors in particular. I'm very frustrated with yes. Who's that a Robin Sandra? Why are they on the season? I I had no no problem with the idea at first but now thinking about it like we're at the end game. They should have no part in the game right. Are they going to hand. Somebody an idol to start this coming episode. You know you forget there there. They haven't been in some of these episodes except they pop up with. I do like to comments at tribal. It is funny what they say interesting but is it going to be a big reveal veal in the finale like a they've been watching all the troubles. I'm sure everyone would be shocked. But who cares Are they going to like sway. People had a vote. Or they're going to give them advice. Obviously the you know I have no idea. They're gonNA get half the time at the reunion. People are going to be like. Hey do you like Robin Sandra. We got a big surprise for you guys they already. I don't know is it to me. I thought it wasn't I wasn't against it and I it. May it may have been more of a one episode type thing. It wouldn't be allowed to fly them apple like what. What if I guess you? Don't build the whole statues but what if that was a cooler award once for somebody to go there and get an idol for Robert Sandra. Let's say what Cochran did it don't know why is this still a secret secret. And how are we doing the reveal. It's it's Day thirty two. There's one I mean how many people of the seven that are there that have not been to the island of the idols. I Guess Tommy Dan Dean. That's that's A. That's it Elaine Lauren Nora Janet of all been there so you why are we acting like this is a surprise and then I why are they. What are they worried about in terms of them being hidden at Tribal Council Akiva? Why do we have to hide them? Who Cares if they're sitting there at this point it really doesn't matter? It has no impact on anything Jordan. How do you think that they will reveal if they do or do you think that? Then they'll just come out at the finale. I mean I still think that. They're going to play a role at at the final tribal council. I think they're either going to be revealed that they were there. The whole time they're gonNA walk out of the little booth and maybe maybe able to ask some questions and like the jury jury in the new format of the jury where the three segments or the the the. Say Catastrophe because we've seen catastrophes and this wouldn't even mm close to that but the I really don't WanNa see I know what a lot of fans don't really WanNa see is the fact that might be casting votes and I don't think that's going to happen at this point. I would would be surprised but I wouldn't put it past survivor to necessarily do that. So I think in some shape or form it's going to be revealed at the final tribal council but I would be shocked and this has come up before. Ah this week and last week on the PODCAST. I would be shocked if the people who haven't been there. Don't know about Robin Sandra. At this point I think they have to know. Yeah in my guess is that the reveal will come after the day thirty eight immunity challenge and then Jeff will send them back to the island of the idols to go practice their fire making. Yeah I do think. Maybe they'd take everyone there to see at the people who have not seen the statues or something. It sounds sounds right It did do that with ghost island. At the at the end they took their dominic at the chooses earn which again was like a dumb things that they hit the not at not as dumb as is that Robin Sandra on the full season of survivor. But I could see that happening okay. Couple other moments from the episode which I have not gotten to talk talk about yet. There was this moment of where Elaine I got to find signed the idol. This week here is Elaine. In her crew finding the idol. Here's now the norris cream gets me every time. Yeah I'm so happy that Norris Dylan the game even though she really messed up this week Akiva. What's your take on Nora era? I like Nora. I don't think she's going to win. Yeah I think he's good to do you think there's a chance we could ever see nora again returning player. Yeah I guess the we've really done this. You want to rank the returning player power rankings. Yeah let's do that. I think that nor is number one on. I mean I would disagree for reason. Yes I think I think jeff already sort of said like Kelly can come back if she wants well. She can come back if she wants. But I feel as want to I think inviting out there. I think I would put Kelly out of her survivor loves the norris that she I mean. How fast did Debbie play again after She was on thirty one and she was back on thirty four day they love. The coach played eighteen to have him back. Twenty Season Twenty Nora. I think it has the fast pass anytime she wants to come back. I'm sure Kelly it's it would be fine to have her back but I don't think that that's like necessarily am one that is going to be like You Know I. I don't think they'd like bill the season around Kelly where they would like you know could really promote Nora as a person as a personality. You say you charisma comes back. I don't I I'd be. I'd be surprised Chris came back I I would. I would agree that Nora is the number one one also followed closely by like Kelly. Jamal Jamal also really really a strong choice to invite back charisma. I not sure that Krishna wants to play again. kief yeah you could listen. People always say that now but you know who knows season. Forty four is a long time from now We're forgetting we're getting Elaine. Also I I could see elaine definitely on an all-star season I she has like that widespread appeal and she's also not a I wouldn't say she's playing a great strategic game but but I think she's a like a pretty good player to where she has like a combination of of character and so and skill in the game. Now she's been very good. Elaine I could definitely see her. Coming back I feel like that with a lane. I thought that maybe like twelve episodes in though Akiva that we would have maybe gotten more from Elaine. Yeah I think that's true I. She's maybe not giving them great confessionals. I don't know why maybe it's maybe it's just not adding up. I agree agree we would have. You thought there's a chance if a if you had said Elaine is still going to be in the final seven he would say she's the total star this season right. Yeah I just expected when we saw met Elaine in episode one and maybe she had her best episode of the season in episode one. And you tell me okay. On December Eighth Elaine. Still in the game. I'm saying she's the next router this. She's a huge breakout star of the show. Run for governor as a libertarian. Yes yeah but I don't think that she's captured the hearts and minds of America yet Jordan. Yeah she's definitely had her quiet episodes. I think that she's very good. And confessional though and when we do see her she's a lot of fun but she's she hasn't risen to the level of of being like a rupert sized character or yeah like a coach or I mean Phillips not my favorite but he had more of a presence in his two seasons than than Elaine has had in hers but I do see her. I mean I think she is. Maybe after Nora the biggest character on this season and I can see her being a. I think it's going to be hard to shut her out. If she ever. In an in an all-star season he's always going to be a presence in whatever season. She's in. I think the person that were sleeping on though is Janet because media. Yeah Janet Janet is potentially deservingly so maybe be the most popular player of the season when when you look at twitter and facebook. Yeah I mean. Janet is really beloved book because of the the whole situation with Kelly and how she defended Kelly odd personality wise though Kief has you know. Is it adjust the strength of the Kelly thing. I'm not sure I don't think Janet's Pop I also think by the way back to Elaine. I do think she had a pretty good episode. This episode. Yeah we've we've talked you and I in the past on podcast about we. I've been on podcasts. A few times for family visits And you know my theory my theory of like the person who they think they save they safer last the hammer. The person who's like yeah. Well she did not go last. I believe if I think Dan win. Last right yeah yeah. I think that they felt like You know having the thirteen year old son I think was going to be that made sense. That's totally fine really. The person didn't somebody else's kid come out who's pretty young so now. I know that Shane's son Boston. Come Notch I don't recall how old he was when he went to go and beyond the show so I I mean I trust. They say that the thirteen year old son. I believe Ryan was his name that he's the youngest person I'll trust. He's the youngest person in Shane. Shane would've gone nuts on twitter right. If if they got that wrong right across the eraser just to circle back with a lane also so I think that she's actually been a better player in the game then. I think that we from expected coming into the season. And maybe she's yeah she's had like some fun moments but she hasn't been like like total you know Kooky nut in terms of you know her game play and so yeah she's had like colorful lines here and there but it hasn't really been like You know A totally wild personality. I think her best moment was a was a very subtle moment of his. You know more more social than strategic when she was able to you know talk charisma down from from being very angry at the point where misty has he was still in the game and they were able to swing the vote on MRI. Instead of Tommy I. I don't know your place who thing Gerald I think it showed. It showed good social skill but strategy wise left a lot to be desired yet to vote out missy who was saying. Hey let's keep all the win around to keep Tommy in in the game. Who was one of the four people? Hey let's put all the votes on a lane this week. And especially when you have Tommy and Lauren who who were so close in the game if if they had voted missy out there and then maybe the next vote gone for Tommy and Lauren. I think then you're saying okay now now elaine sort of eliminated a lot of the close pairs because MRI had Elizabeth Anti Anti Tommy Has Lauren but they're still leaving those two in who both have a very close relationship with Dan so I think we're getting to the point now kind of like a ghost island situation. Where are you where you have a really tight pair and it might be too late to break them up unless people really decide they wanNA make a move? Just one other Elaine. Moment from Emma. This week she did play the idol that was found she told the Jeff. Just WANNA apologize ahead of time for her idol for myself. Sorry for smells like see. I've never seen jeff smell the idol to WHO Once he acquires in front of the survivor I would pay like fifty dollars to hear. Jeff do a podcast. Rankings of like the ten smelly survivors. He's he's had to put an idol on. Yeah I'm sure it is. He couldn't do fifty but he could probably tell you like Oh. The worst smelling survivor of all time was blank I don't think he should by the way. I don't think that's nice but it would be fun. We'll maybe it depends if it's like a badge of honor for somebody. Yeah I guess I mean. Normally you don't go thirty four days without showering so I guess it's not really like a repeatable offense most people I think. There's a couple of survivors that would really like embraced a stat. Like I could see rupert or Russell. Maybe like really you know owning that Russell was told he smells so you know he might have the champ. The issue was though that he he did not like the water. According to Sandra I mean that's what you need to shower like. He didn't. He didn't like being the ocean ocean. So there you go all right. Let's turn to the survivor social media as we continue to talk this through a is there anything else that you had top of mind Akiva. Yeah but it's not about survivors so we can talk about. What is it no? I'm joking okay. Okay all right because I feel like that I never get a chance to talk to you on a podcast where we just talk about whatever's on your mind you mean like we're too structured normally no no not at all all right so There you go all right before we get into talking about the tweets. I WanNa talk about a new sponsor here on ROB's podcast odd guest and this is a really good one. There's a new APP it's called Sanitarium and this is really fun. It's an opportunity for fans the ends of reality TV to be able to win money by knowing how much they know about their favorite shows there are quizzes for all of these different shows Khiva including football night in America. Currently all you do. 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All Right Kiva This weekend was the big survivor. Holiday Party do you feel like should this survivor. Alumni have allowed Jordan Kayla to attend the the Holiday Party party. Where was it New York City? No why would he. Why would he be like what is what is special about Jordan that he should be? He's an alumni. I'm nine of that. I played with Andrea on face seasons. Okay but then. Where do you draw the line like everyone who played on survivor? Philadelphia gets ago like hey they had a couple of the CAST members from Philadelphia. Were there they did to it to them. That played I stock. Commander Mander Benowitz to you. Okay Yeah I will. I will say this look. It looked it. Looked like it would have been great time but like I have no business being invited to these survivor survivor. CBS survivor survivor. Brooklyn South doesn't even have episode survivor. Which I love I love the game but yeah I know no real business? Is this being invited to this. Even though if I was under present would have been there had it probably would have been a great time. Okay Jordan where would you have rather been this weekend at the survivor Holiday Party in New York City or at Foxwoods for the Boston rob meet and greet and autograph. Signing this is the one must go well. There's only two. There's only two I would have rather been the holiday party is I actually did consider going into going to foxwoods. But that's like a three hour drive to go to meet and greet it would have been. I think the more fun part would have been hanging out with the patrons who when as most meeting Boston rob who have met before and had a great time with at run it up Reno but I mean that's that's going to foxwoods three hours away away and I would have been able to to hang out with patrons there and say hi to Boston Rob. But then there's a forty minute train ride into Manhattan where I could like like hung out with forty survivors. That would have been the best. Okay alright no offense to Boston driver. John or Johnny Shout Ghana Rosen Their resume rob. I also think like you're you're joking about survivor bruins. They wouldn't have let like a survivor Australia survivor. South Africa person in their. You know way. Yes they can naked dances in New York. They definitely letting him in there. Yeah no nicotine had plans this week and he was at Shannon Gates's weddings leading this -gratulations weekend Sweden Jordan. You could say Mazal Tov to show you know if they congratulations. That's true Mazda. Yes huge weekend. Also Krishna's birthday. They happy birthday to charisma this weekend. jam jam packed weekend. All around here with survivor. All all right. Let's talk about what's going on. We've got some smoke going on in this survivor. Let's let's open with that. We love love talking about smoke between the survivors. And this one that came out of this past week's episode there was a he a moment in the episode that we've talked about a little bit on the podcast but I haven't played the clip yet. Akiva what did you think of when Tommy. It closed out tribal council setting up. A new segment called teaching time with. Tommy Yeah I didn't I forgot. He's a fourth grade. The teacher Tommy. You played better with the fourth graders. Fourth grade is really young. Yeah all right. I teach I teach K.. Through and five physical education so I have a fourth graders. I think if I ever said this is teaching time with with coach Galas they'd make fun of the alliteration. What have you called uncle cash rush? Then they'd be just creeped out. Okay okay here. Was Tommy a closing out the episode of after a while Travel Council. Tommy brings it home. Jeff it's teaching time with Tommy and you gotTa tell people when they need to know things. Lessons learned okay. Okay now Tommy's got in a lot of heat for this. I don't WanNa Pylon. That's not what I do here. Pylon but can we just listen back because I'm trying to understand what he's saying here okay. It's teaching time with Tommy. I feel like I'm about to learn a tip but it sounds like maybe he's the one that learned a tiff. It's teaching time Mattamy like okay. All right we're pins and needles. What what is he going to teach us? And you gotTa tell people when they need to know things you gotTa tell people people when they need to know things but he was the one that got told something by Dean lessons learned. The lesson is learned. It's almost it seems like that. He learned that lesson should be learning time with Tommy. It was more learning time with Tommy. Not a teaching time same not the same alliteration but it would have made more sense and I i. It seems like the thing that I'm surprised. It left me episode. Yeah I actually think Tommy you know he's you know he's gotten some shade on on social media for maybe not being the most interesting character in the world old. I think he's probably playing a fantastic game of survivor. It seems like everyone wants to keep him around. Despite the fact that at least to the audience he seems to be such a big threat to win so nothing against against his game. AIM But yeah I I. I'm surprised that they left the teaching time. Mattamy thing in the edit Akiva where would make a teaching time with Tommy I think hopefully gets canceled. Don't don't put it on the wheel or no. What does he teaching us? You want him to come on Robin Akiva teaching selling things. He's learned it. Sounds like all right. Now it's confusing learning time with Tommy. Then we don't know Tommy you on twitter. People were making fun and he tweeted. I heard at survivor underscore read it. Read it should get a different twitter. Handle doesn't have underscore right. Just kidding. Just gotTa love it. A it should have more underscores. I heard survivor read. It loves me and my teaching time with Tommy Line so much I had to try with my fourth graders. They instantly said please. I never do that again so I think I should keep it going the arts Hashtag Hashtag Orrin. Okay so you know. I don't know if he really stick the landing on it on TV. But I I think that at least you know having fun with it right listen. I'm sure there's a lot of confessionals that get caught on the left on the cutting room floor. And maybe this could have been one of the. Yeah not confessional. I hear what you're saying but by the way I keep it when we went to the giants game I believe when we were in the stadium. I told you that I saw this outside there was. There's a leader board for this. This football game thing. I think it's like a combine thing that they have outside the stadium and second on the leaderboard was T- she hadn't and we know that time Michigan is a jets fan right. Yeah so I think it was him. I think I think it had to have been him. I when I took a picture of the leaderboard in neon lights and it just didn't like it didn't show up in the picture but t Han was definitely in second place and I've West. Yeah Yeah Rob. Are you going to the finale. I don't know if I'm going to be at the show Shell. Are you going to be like the red carpet. I I don't know if I'm going to go to the taping. I haven't decided to be fine because I was thinking if you are there. Can you solve this and ask sure it was his name on the jets on the jets giants leader. I don't even know what you're talking about to be honest I really just I. I'm just saying I'm just humoring and by I really have no idea what he's even talking about how we're GONNA get bullying. I'm I'm kind of in the middle of trying to explain this twitter thread. Okay okay all right. We'll find. We'll we'll find out if you could if you you could write that out for me Jordan. Okay all right. I'll write it as a question and I'll also admit it to you on twitter or something. He's on his name is on a a leaderboard somewhere. So you'll leader Vertebrae some fan game banning outside the stadium a fan. Yes a fan of Phantom game that you play outside the stadium. Okay what does he guess. Guess right the most things that he's learned I guess no I think it's I think it's like I think like run. I don't know I don't know what the game is. I didn't see people a playoff game or something. Yeah it was something like that or like like running a forty. I'm not I'm not exactly sure you know. She is a very common name especially with like jets fans. Yeah he is a very common letter also throws off hand together from a known jets fan. That's that is does that sum evidence to deny what's your least favorite letter out of the twenty probably Q.. Q.'s not great. But I was I was thinking you is worse because you need you know like you just comes after the Q- It's really doing sometimes times Q.. Is In a word lower case and I don't know if it's supposed to be a cure G. O.. J.'s kind of not a great letter also the capital or the lower case lower case. J. Is not great. Okay Chesnut I don't like it and people don't make the hook on it about the what about up. The I like the upper case I look the same island of the idols looks like. Ll this put a serif on that there. There you go all right so Tommy Sheehan sort of like. Hey everybody like nobody likes to say. But he's he's trying to laugh at it. So Johnny Fairplay comes comes in and he comes in with a steel chair. He says tremendous paint emoji drying and then has a cup of tea in an eggplant. I am not sure what he's what he's off again. I need to do a proper emoji reading here. You're on this paint. Drying and then a cup of coffee or tea or Nascar no now now and then the Eggplant Emoji and Tommy. She hand comes back with. Hey I'd rather be called boring. Then a quitter. WHOA now very sassy? Response escalated quickly Jordan. Yeah it's an appoint. I'd rather be be boring. That actually would you rather be boring. Cler I mean Jonny Fairplay did did not technically didn't quit but he did sort of quit Fans versus favorites. But I mean he's like you know he's whatever you've figured him you still survivor legend. I mean he was one of the biggest players has one of the biggest reality. TV moments of all time. So I don't know if that's true. I mean I think again I think Tommy is playing a great game. I don't know if I I don't know if you'd rather be boring or quitter I'm not sure Yeah Yeah I think it's I want to be Purple Kelly. You don't want to be a boring quitter. That's that's the worst. Yeah but we're ju- would you rather be boring and win or quit and not win. I think that's probably boring win. You'd rather be boring and win coverage rather be boring or a quitter quitter. We've had that before. Also so what's more interesting this conversation or ranking the letters. No people love the rain. Letters they rewind it and listen to it again. Yeah we'll maybe put the put that on the wheel. Okay Randy Bailey said Hey Jeff probst extrapolate does not mean dig deeper deeper. This came out of that. Jeff said extrapolate Elaine. Let's extrapolate a little more with lightning in Jeff said that means to dig deeper into something Akiva who's right on this Jeff probst randy what randy say it said that Extrapolate does not mean dig deeper. That's definitely not the the dictionary definition of extrapolate to dig deep and There's no digging. I'm looking at the at the dictionary. Definition of extrapolate. It doesn't dig or deeper at the risk of upsetting randy. Oh I'm looking up extrapolate. And here's this is to extend the application to an unknown situation by assuming that existing trends will continue. So I mean I see what I see Jeff's point point when you're digging deep into something could be extending your your understanding of the situation but we jeff's Jeff's Definition of dig deep is always something. That's done during a challenge so I think based on Jeff's interpretation of the phrase dig deep. I don't think it's the same as extravagant. Some big news from The mayor of Slam Town John Morrison confirmed I've signed with at wwe. I've never been as anything as I am at wrestling and I can't wait to stand in a wwe ring opposite the most talented people in the business AKIVA. I know you're a big wrestling guy. Any thoughts on on the mayor of slam town returning to the wwe. I've been out of the wrestling game recently. But yeah yeah I mean I mean. I'm a busy guy. I got four kids and a four. PODCAST GONNA look to you like I don't know I'm busy. I don't if I'm for everything he's forty like. I guess this is his last run. Probably you think so. I mean I feel like the forty is young based on some of these other. WWe Stars as I say is true but the guys who were like w w going like three or four nights a week. It's pretty rough So new thirty or isn't good for him. I feel like that's you know. Survivor is a good boost to get on the. You know to get back into. Could they have like a John Morrison verse. What's the what's the Big Brother Guy? He's in the he's in the other arrival or not Ms. The MS wasn't on miss spectacular killer bacteria. I don't think he's really working. How many big guys are in wrestling? Yeah the other guy Austin Austin Austin is is jude go. He's yeah he has like a big character in e w now he's a big deal. Okay there you go and then Jordan. I have one for you David. David Samson David Samson survivor. COGGIN tweeted this week. The best part of the Yankees signing Garrett call if it happens. We'll be next October when they don't win a world series and everybody cries about not having enough pitching Hashtag. Wait to see you know what it's interesting to to hear what I boots have to say. I I think if we signed Gary Cole- We have a great chance of winning the world series and David Samson. He's out of baseball at this point right commenting on baseball. I'm always curious to hear what the Florida version of. Jeff Wilpon has the thinks also this week. Monica Padilla at Monica has seven walked into twitter and said having watched an episode of survivor and a couple of seasons. And I'm cracking up over that tribal fiasco. Wow Ha ha ha. Ah But why not Nora. Can someone explain. I haven't been watching so somebody needs to explain to Monica Padilla to catch sure up on this season of survivor. You wanted to jump on that grenade. Yeah I'll send her the short version the synopsis During the loved ones visit Andy Herron has tweeted big brother fifteen winner Jordan for you. Just starting Hashtag survivor me comma to Lauren's husband call in and then he lists off a number or of emojis that were most recently featured in the art. Sara Lee. SNL sketch you know what. I'm talking about AKIVA. Yes I did see that. That's got yes. So that's Andy. Harun had the ready and Davey Davey. Rickenbacker tweeted out that he had a game that he was trying to get going on twitter. He said okay. Sure I'll try one name. Something Jeff would say say during survivor and sex. Happy White Rice Wednesday and then people gave were giving Davey a bunch show. Jeff probst quotes. That would be appropriate both on survivor and also in the bedroom What was the best one? Let's let's extrapolate those a lot and a lot of familiar names here of people that are people that I know so you can go ahead and read that one for yourself if you're interested to now what Davey found out from the people on twitter. Okay okay all right so there you go check out at at. I tweet Davey for that including a couple of Dr Mike Entries. Also he's going to Dr. Mike's not gonNA miss out on that one. What do you think about the twitter handle? I tweet Davey. Can he can a bunch that up a little. I think it's fine. I mean let's look using because he he doesn't tweet. Davey Davey a EH. But look I understand what he's going for he says instagram's. Im Davey which is very good. Yes it's actually very confusing that he he's at I tweet Davy. But he's changed his name his display name on twitter to B. I G Colon I M Davies. So I'm very confused about what I've never seen. Seen anybody make their twitter name that they're instagram. Name is something else. Yeah listen if you want to be on twitter stay with the rest of the ugly people like us on twitter and promote your instagram instagram or twitter. You can't be good at both all right so we're going to get into this this week in survivor history quiz in just a moment. Akiva you excited. Yeah I've never done this quiz before uh-huh and you've heard it every hundreds of times and I think that Jordan Brought his quiz to Robin Akita. PODCAST CAST and I loathe the questions. I just tested like some of the some of the joke answer so much. So hopefully he's learned a lesson. There will be no all the question all the answers. There's the multiple choice. We'll see we'll see we'll see if if there are any joke answers this week based on your your reaction from the last time it used against is okay all right so so before we get to that let me just take a moment and thank our other sponsor here today and those are our friends over at bed online dot got a g of course there the presenting sponsor of the podcast one sports net challenge where I am taking on the podcast one host to try to win five thousand dollars dollars for the charity of my choice or of the winners choice at this point because it's starting to look pretty evident That based I've I was going going to extrapolate the standings and it does not look like a baby boy is going to be winning the podcast one sports net challenge. But it doesn't mean that it's not fun to follow Hashtag Sports Net challenge on twitter if you want to jump into the conversation. It's December every game in the NFL. 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Yes I'm trying to have a moment with Akiva Jordan I'm looking forward to this all week. We spoke yesterday though for several hours. Yes but then I never get to have you on the survivor. podcast used to come on the phone. You whenever you want it. Listen I don't do the inviting yours acting like I've been down. Do you WanNa have you know voicemails. You can have me on voicemails I won't release this. I'll come voicemail. All right feedback show no. It was bryce right those very good. Yes yes a great one with Bryce this weekend. If anybody missed IT WE GOTTA get price on Rob Akiva. I T I said that the him on the podcast he said You know what it is is the upfront. I think that he sounded del. He didn't really know what it is but I think that he seemed like when people people tweeted all the time and say hey come on. He likes the tweets. The big moment at the Survivor Holiday Holiday Party which I didn't touch on in the social media segment was he finally got to meet Serie Field. Yeah he seemed very touch. There was a very sincere tweet about meeting her. Yes I posted video Sirri. Who One time referred to as Martha? He should've come when you had it. The live knows he. It doesn't look that far away. He didn't he wasn't able to make it to that he's he's usually at at everyone that we've done in New York. He was not the one that story was that. So that's why they they had missed each other up a number of times over the year so this was nice this weekend. He was finally able to meet up with her. All right all right. Do you need to know the rules again for this week in survivor history just remind the listeners. I know the listeners. AKIVA is an expert on on need this week in survivor history rules. I have four multiple choice questions. You'll each get to answer two of them if you could go for two points if you go for or to. You won't hear the options but if you're wrong your opponent has a chance to steal one point But if you do hear the multiple choice options the the lesson is worth one point but your opponent cannot steal. Then we'll go to a final round in which both players can receive points. Okay alright makes sense all right. What are the categories for today? Okay if the categories that we have to choose from we have like a g six scumbags they may say I'm a dreamer and you're quits trash okay. Nice Do you write all the questions yourself. Do you have a team of people Jordan helping you know. I wish I read the questions myself when it when it was a fifty three question rob Robin Akita podcast quiz rats solicitude PODCAST LISTEN TO I. I had a team helping me but this is this is all me I will say on my on the final round which we will get to you if we get to a a tiebreaker I had I did have help from somebody within the HP community. We'll find that out in a little bit but the actual question I guess who it was was. It's definitely it's definitely his cousin. Reo always asked her. I will say it's actually not already but I will. The it'll become clear who the person is when when we get to that triangle. All right you're the guest. You get to choose the first category. Do you remember the categories. Yeah your trash. Let's go with that because that's what I remember. Okay your trash were going to survivor. Nicaragua episode. Is you start. You started your finishing from December number. I two thousand ten nine years ago Sunday before Neon Cook with the game. To whom did she give her hidden immunity idol. I'm GONNA play okay. You read the choices why. I can't pass the question. Yeah you know what I'm saying. I WanNa hear the choices I'm going. You want to hear what choices to. Ross you're going one route rob cancio point the choices are a chase rice. Be Holly Hoffman. See Sash De Rohan Aka Everett. All right listen. I don't mind that now because it gives me one in three shot It don't think Holly I'm GonNa say sash sashes incorrect. It was actually chase chase writes. who was maybe the one person out there who who is making me feel feel uncomfortable? When she was going through some hard moments there on the show and she gave the idol to chase chase he played at the final five but I don't believe that actually cancelled relatives? Just the last time you could use it so Akiva you start with with no points and rob you get to choose. The next category AKIVA is the all time survivor. Success power rankings. Chase rice the number one yet I was going to so I just clicked on twitter. He's got a million dollars is the only only survivor with a million followers. Only survivor with a million followers I mean Perot doesn't even have a half million Yeah what is the actual. CBS survivor account. Have I'm not sure. Okay Oh oh you know who else. Who has a million oh? She doesn't have million Murray Takashi. She's half a million okay. Oh that's right. Yeah that'd be a good podcast all time a UH survivor. Success power rankings. Yeah people will get not on twitter. I can't find that if you are managed talked about if if you're mad enough to be angry that you're not on there. Yeah and you listen to the podcast. Those are those are two reasons why you should. You are not supposed to be like if you're listening to this podcast and you're mad about not being included in this podcast. Power rankings over. WHO's the most successful survivor? You are clearly clearly not the most successful survivor. And you don't belong in the top ten a soothing chase rice not listening right now no yeah. I don't think so. Never the feedback from chase. We could change the name of this podcast this week in the chase rice and he would not listen to this. You wouldn't know it exists now. Okay so yeah I. I don't think any of the people in the actually the only person in this in of the four choices. The only person who's maybe heard the podcast is baby row and AK ever because his his parents might be listeners. Robert is your turn to choose the next category. Okay Yeah like a g six scumbags come bags and they may say. I'm a dreamer okay. The actual survivor twitter account only has five hundred seventy eight thousand dollars. So he's bigger than the show itself twice as big the show itself. Yeah the show plus Jeff Okay. All right I'm sorry during wartime like a g six scumbags they may say. I'm a dreamer so I will say like a g six okay. We're GONNA survivor Vanuatu now. WHO's in charge here? From December second in two thousand and four or fifteen years ago Monday. Who won the car reward? A PONTIAC G six at the at the Vanuatu Final Six Who one car you're I'm I'm going to say I'll let me let me take a shot. I'll open up the door for actually actually. No I know you're trolling Kiva by you're going to have a joke answer for the fourth one. So it'll be a one and three so all right. Let me hear the choices. Okay okay so we have a Amy Elisa. Julie de Alex Chester Back to not liking the joke now. That is ro Rob's choice. Yeah there should be a fifth joke answer. There should be four multiple choice and then fun fact didn't like outside America like in Israel they call multiple choice questions Shayla Americai like the. It's like an American thing like we should just not have multiple choice. Yeah that's a hot take so I my original digital guest is going to be amy. I can remember like Julie being on a volcano though that I wonder if that was if she got taken along I'll I'll I'll stick with amy. So that is actually incorrect. Was Elisa who who won the car or sorry. Elisa is a WHO won the car award however she did take Julian Chris with her on the reward. Okay there yeah she would mention it more often that you when the car award. Maybe she didn't like it. She lives in the city. Like probably didn't even have a car. I misspoke there. She took amy and Crystalline Crystal car. All right so aw zero zero points. They're going after two weeks of mostly going for the going for two for both intestines very very conservative. Way To start the this we can survive history quiz kind of reminds me of the jets game and punting on four th and five from the from the forty yard line. It's like you're speaking being I all the listeners. Yes I'm speaking for the three people on the podcast right now so I keep it. We have scumbags and they may say. I'm a dreamer. I don't think think statistically it makes a lot of sense to go for the two unless you just know that you know every question Yeah anyway. I mean. Obviously if you're like trailing by a big amount then go for it so let's go with the answer. I think it makes sense. Yeah I guess you already know by but if you're not hundred short then yeah giving the scumbags what's the other one they say. I'm a dreamer dreamer. Sandra okay. We're going to Samoa. They're going to some off with their heads from December third two thousand nine ten years ago Tuesday after after a day of chicken related drama. Who did Shambo visualize being voted out in what she referred to as a clairvoyant dream? Given the choices please. He's okay. Was it a ball. Be John Fincher. See Laura Marie de Eric Tomlinson. I don't think it was Dave Ball I want to say I'm GONNA say Laurette. So Laura morale is is incorrect. She was actually not even around anymore. It was Dave all you got in a fight. Dave ball wanted to check in one way. She wanted to boil the chicken and she had A. She had a dream. Well she said she had a dream. Who knows if she actually did where she called clairvoyant dream and she said she's had maybe twenty of these in her lifetime? Yes and and Dave Ball was the person that she told the rest of the tribes she foresaw getting voted out but it was actually John Fincher. Who goes home in this episode? So what was that Tomlin's dream Eric. Tomlinson's dream was to make an NFL to prop you get the final question here zero zero scumbags we're of course going to my favorite survivor. Guatemala price for immunity from December First Dude S.. Five fourteen years ago Sunday. who was the only player who voted with Judd? God Tribal Council in which he was blindsided. Okay so not for job but with jet all right say one more time yes. who was the only player who voted with Judd at the tribal council and within which he was blindsided? Of course besides Judd. Okay I will say that it was Cindy Cindy you got a risk to get the biscuit and you got the biscuit. That is two points Cindy yes she she ends up going next at at the final five I think a lot of people attribute her getting voted out to Not Giving the cars away but she may have been the next one to go anyway potentially could have been Danny. Yeah now it changed the whole game. But yes indy was the only one who was not in on that rob. You take a to nothing lead and we're going to go to our final round now and and like we we had sort of a festive themed ad also very happy that a festivus was mentioned in the week that Akiva was is going to be on the podcast so we have our finally Kiva yes. I think it's I think it's pretty good. Sometimes people say like Oh we all that happened. And it's related to the persons on the recap this week. Did you plan this did you. Did you know the festivus reference was coming. That's invited me on. That's why you beat me in the game and I lost the bed and now we're hearing. Yeah okay I mean unless we scrambled to book you after Wednesday night which was not the case it would have to like a message me and save wrongheaded as a killer confessional. I said that Nora is going to do we do grievances. It's like festive around here. It's gold it's Gold Rob. They're GONNA use it. I guarantee book Akiva none of those things. The more important things to worry about this week. Like getting voted out in her birthday. Yeah and if I'm charisma if I if I give that confessional I think it was a great confessional for me it was one of the highlights of the episode. But I wouldn't even think that it would be used like it because it is. I mean it's a very famous reference from the most famous Sitcom of all time but I feel like they don't really what do that. Many pop culture references on survivor. So I'm really happy that this one got in any way AKIVA AKIVA has been on the schedule for this week for like what four weeks or something three or four weeks we have curb if we do incur. PODCAST WE INVITE KRISHNA. We have an open invitation of Chris. Talk to us. is she a curb person. I don't know I thought so I that it was Chelsea from this season. That's rose Larry. You're right you're right I. I thought maybe it was both Krishna. I mean that she might be you know Chelsea invited to on the podcast if she wants to come on and I. I don't really love a lot of guests for those podcasts. Becoming either long enough I'm famous. I guess it it takes you two hours to get through talking about an episode of television so You know I'm open to it Maybe maybe somebody would actually listen at that point if we gotta guess. I'll listen if you guys do a full week by week after the new. Listen what who you throwing shade at their. I don't know how how well listen to the curb. Your enthusiasm recall. I thought you were talking about like Robin Akiva. Crushing the game no pockets. Nobody listen to. Yeah yeah that's that's just for us. Yeah where do you already do. A podcast is just for us. Yeah anyway final. Round of the the This week in survivor history game we have the feats of strength and what. I had the way that this game is going to work. I am going to read a wikipedia synopsis. Assist of a challenge from this weekend survivor. History I'll tell you what season it's Rahm. I'll tell you how many people were left in the game and I'll tell you if it were if it was a reward or immunity challenge you have to tell Lee who won the challenge based on the description so Akiva simpler Jordan that we also had a lanes feats eats of strength in this episode for myself. I'm sorry for smells like see. Yeah I get it. So I'm I'm GonNa read the description of the of the of the challenge Akiva you have to start by giving me a number from one through four and by the way in the final round. If you get a question wrong you cannot gain any more points in the game me so rob has a two which means that if you get this wrong you lose the quiz so she was a number from one through four. I do too in honor of the worst human being on the planet. Derrick jeeter okay. I disagree but we're going to survivor. San Juan del Sur. This is the final eight reward. We're challenge each round. The castaways would be asked a series of questions about any player who reached the merge the CASTAWAYS who correctly answered. The question would then chopper rope belonging to another castaway. Passed away when a castaways rope was chop three times. They would be out of the challenge. The last player remaining would win a horseback ride followed by barbecue overnight. Stay at a resort. Who won this challenge in San San Juan de ser? Who won this challenge? Oh so you don't tell us left now is the they did the uncomfortable questions challenge. Yeah yes so. This is the last time they did it. If I remember correctly I remember missy and Baylor being heavily involved in like the drama of this challenge But I don't remember I guessing that's because 'cause they lost this by the way it's on me right. I'm not just talking to school. Yeah yes so. Who's WHO's left did MRI Baylor is John Mitch? How many did you see how many people were left? It's these Enron does our final eat reward challenge. Okay I'M GONNA say Natalie Anderson one so you should have potentially gone with your gut because the answer was actually Demissie won Suh once John Alec and Keith. I believe her out of the challenge. who were sort of the three who were on the chopping block? Everyone just sort of rigged it so so missing Japanese challenge where they had a chance. Jeff Went Kramer movie movie phone and we do this. Why don't you just tell me the name of the person you want to win the challenge? We don't have to do this. Yeah okay so I lost so he wanted to give me one question. Let me see I'll give you one more. Let's run up the score because it it was a you know tuna to nothing to nothing. It's over. He's not actually getting points for this but we're going to go to the bone final seven immunity challenge the castaways would be we asked Trivia questions about Gabon for each question for each question answered correctly. The castaways would earn one ball. After four questions asked the castaways with throw the balls that they won down a hill at a target divided into two zones the castaway who through their ball into zone closest to the center would win I'll just say Bob. It was a spa so Bob Bob was the winner of challenges knowledgeable of physics. Well let's let's go to this. which would have been the tiebreaker here? We're going go to our airing of Grievances Aka. One must go with John John. He's somebody helped me that. Somebody helped me with these questions and this is going to be the tiebreaker. If you guys were tied after the final round so I have a I have four one must go situations John. John Selected these. It's all on him. You have to basically it's basically your knowledge of John John so I have a key vote. We'll go with you. I and again no no points on this refund so I have I listed out all the The eighth placers to ever in honor of charisma being voted out in eighth place. I made a list of the eighth blazers to ever finish in survivor history. I and I did some one Musco situations with eighth placers. So who did John. John say must go. This is the friends of our. HP Round Tyson Randy were Andrea Bulky. He definitely said Randy Moscow. He did say that. Randy Scott four rounds of the tiebreaker occur one Moscow Unless you have beyond John Audio clips telling us the answer. I feel like a better produced. Show the judge audio clips. John John John. Do you need audio and I was like no. Just give me the correct. John have look I do have explanations to why he picked each one right He. He's now got it. We got it do you. Do you want one. We're number John. I think we got we got Yeah feel are bits. Don't tell ruined John One. Let's go for the next or an APP standalone episodes. I think maybe we will All right Jordan the questions for Kiva Kiva. Who's the first survivor? You ever fallen on twitter. You don't follow a lot. The people on twitter which is much easier when I'm playing the game because I don't have to scroll down so far the first survivor. It's rob I I try and keep it under two hundred. Although my sister did. I did take my phone and following under two hundred yes so then it can read my my I can I can read my tweets without having to like like us out people you will always say like Oh yeah. I didn't see that tweet. Because you forty five hundred people whereas hundred people if you follow my rule is if you follow more more than four hundred people then it's your job. Your job is reading twitter. Or you're just missing tweets. Yeah so especially because I sign off twenty four hours for a full twenty four hour day once a week so not that I'm scrolling through every single tweet anymore but That's that's the way to do anything. Good that's like you get you get to see anyway. So half my tweets aren't even people on following. Okay all right answer for a long time. It was just rob was the only now follow a lot like random people. Yeah you're correct I and the first non our age that you followed it was it. Was Max Dawson actually. Oh there you go. Why is this like a regular segment or you stalking me? They started with nicotine like a couple of years ago and then ever since we have we have played this game usually rob. I don't know what what's the upside to this segment rob. It was funny the first time we did it with Nikai Dan because we talked about how nick idea follows Jaylo. Hello and that was very funny really question honestly. I know that you're a survivor. Pipes would be. Who's the first person you ever follow? Well that's how that is actually how it started and we found out that nicotine his first followed was J.. Lo as a HE'S A. He's a big Jalen Stan. But then it turned into which survivor survivor did you did you first of all. Yeah Yeah. My first person was Bill Simmons but I think I accidentally clicked on following refoulement. So he's not at the bottom of the list. I I feel like I've heard you say. What did he say that made you follow narrow sometimes accidentally click the button and then you have to quickly? Yeah but he's no longer than the bottom of the list. Wait you win. Do you join twitter Akiva. I joined twitter. Let's go to the old one just about a month too late to get at key. And that's why I'm KIEF. Twenty Six may two thousand thousand nine so okay. Yeah you're right there and if you're all right congratulations on ten years on On the old twitter. Yeah I had a student tell me I had the join twitter. who was like a a computer geek? When I was a high school teams like one of the first people on and then I just I checked recently? Hasn't tweeted in like nine years. Yeah I guess he got bored of it but he was like the first person on on there. Yeah I beat you. There got their January two thousand nine That's segment Rollo. Nine May Jordan. That'd be good segment. If you could read everyone's first tweet. Who Comes on the show down? No I know I like the the event starts but I know Jordan does a lot of work. I feel like that's been on a fast before. I think I've heard guess what every single thing ever has been on a podcast. Nobody's ever rename the baby. Besides you rob Vevey. I don't blame her point. We're going to wrap this up. All right heave. Oh would you ever come back on this week in survivor history next week. I'm here Verdel for real I I would I will say I I love time with you. Two Gentlemen Delman. I did tell Jordan last year that I do think you should have like eight guests a year and then make it like a tournament style. Semifinals and finals. The last few weeks should be repeat guests and so there should be stakes stakes. Like who's going to be the champion of of twenty twenty. That sort of thing. Okay state places I I like it. Well I think that the really the part that I enjoy is the first couple of segments before we get to the quiz quiz. The quiz is fine. But I enjoy getting You know talk to different people on the PODCASTS. And hearing what they have to say about the season I guess right I guess that would get old so maybe I don't know maybe there would be that you're talking about two different guests and then robson interested in that so that's tricky. Yeah I would always root for the funniest person to you know. I'll throw twitch to get the funny person to come back to podcast okay. That's yeah and that's true. Rob is one of the people in in the quiz like are a- are you going based on points like scoring points you or the people who did best against rob come back semifinals and the finals and they play against each together. Okay I mean I I I see it. I don't really know work pretty much. The same guests every season. I think that's not true. Acutest infield season is this work. I made a sparkle of tuition guests. That was fun the ad I did you see that if you only follow two hundred people you'd know he made a sparkle. I don't think I tweeted. The sport half happens all right. Let's let's wrap this up. My wife has to go to work. I'M GONNA get yelled at pretty soon. So that goes percent. Yeah my wife is a big twitch fan. I don't want to upset her. Both my wife and myself both work Jeeva. What are you throwing the the hell take that out a low blow? Listen you heard of you've heard of what's it called dual income. No kids they say right like all right. Well what about Quattro kids Zero income. All right well Oh. I'm sorry I'm sorry I didn't mean to offend you. I bet offended. Listen I've been having time my life. I got like three more months before I really look for job. All right living high on the hog right now all right thank you so much publicity Jordan. We Kid I thank you for all your hard work. Yes it's been fun to season. We have we have two more weeks of WHO's coming up on twitch. Get people hyped up. Yeah we we have a guest. This is the as Akiva sadder as drawback she said before. We have a lot of repeat guests. This is the person who's played twist more than anybody else. We Have Meghan Z.. O. Next Week. Oh you're stealing our guests. She's she has to be on a male Alabama. Yeah Brunette when I find out what's going on twists more than she's been on. I think you're still never been on so so you're still not getting it. Jay Leno and David Letterman back in the day rob. They used to have a deal where it's like if you went to one you were banned from the this is all one thing you know. This is what I that's even worse. It's so insensitive on another survivor Trivia. podcast you know. Forget it okay. If she goes onto which next week she's banned from renowned for the rest of the two thousand nine hundred so low. We'll take any we can get her and then who else is coming up. 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MTV The Challenge RHAPup | Total Madness Reunion Podcast

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MTV The Challenge RHAPup | Total Madness Reunion Podcast

"And A. and. Oh everyone and welcome back to the challenge total man up, Casper, the reunion I am Brian Phone here with me as Michael's Algeria Elliot, how are you? You. Know? We're here. We're doing it. I thought this was You know some people message me that this was boring, but I've thought it suited the season I still got my same reunion. Vibes from watching them even over zoom. What did you think yeah I didn't mind it. I was actually Kinda surprised about how much actually happened the season. I think they actually had a good amount to talk about when it felt like. A lot of the things that we see. There was those strategies, so I guess there was other stuff I kind of forgot about all the other stuff that happened. That's actually a segment. We're talking about Oh. That's a second worth. That's worth argument so I thought. Was Pretty Good I. Don't know if we got a lot out of it, but in the moment I was kind of enjoying it so I guess that's really all that matters. It's again almost like it's a price. We pay for having professional reality people as our. Cast always is like no one's really besides like an Ashley or ninety GonNa. Go Rogue, and fully spill the tea so. We, we take. This is sort of a produced reunion. I mean to me. Bananas was as much of a host of the reunion as Vernon Davis. Yeah I mean they really should've just happened. Honest the CTO because they were, they were the ones fielding. They can toss out the tougher questions, so that should just been what the show was. which actually would be pretty entertaining this? One of the cats off the season host the reunion I think that would actually way to go about it rather than bringing in someone for the Pros Joe's version, three point zero season. Yeah I think they're. They're beyond needing a host. I felt the same way they could have facilitated this conversation on their own with like sort of CT and Nisha and bananas like sort of taking the editor, the more level headed people at least this reunion taking the lead, but. It does like once. You officially sanctioned like bananas as the host of the reunion I. Think we've gone too far, but I would be okay with it in a quote to the audience informal. Conversation that is actually host and produced by. All sees you could have done ct because he was offered so little cut. Perfect the way. I think that would have. been as hosting reading. I think that would have driven the conspiracies even further that this was wreck for him the way that it kills. They're even talking about why he's so great. That was one of my biggest takeaways from the union is just like. I know I was hard on ct this season, but like Oh. I missed him like it was so nice to see him. He had a lot of great funny moments from outside. On the show and then the clip like the outtakes also. The one clip of hippy and Mike is also. Let's talking about how great it was the CB losers. Thousand a great moment, so yeah, he he was missed of during the season for sure. I loved the like all right, asked me two or three questions at once I can become. Three questions I bet you could just take off the rest of the hour and all we've. Yeah? No, I feel like that's big me energy anytime. I'm interacting with like Akiva. It A. Stick around for the bill. Do my par-. Leave about. Let's talk about Vernon Davis you know not to enforce gender norms on you but I. have no idea who this is nothing to do with my gender, I don't know who Vernon Davis is Ryan. Hillyard says how did Vernon Davis end up posting? This was the MS busy or It's a good question. I have absolutely no idea it's only we're in his well known football, like unless you really like into the NFL fantasy, and and some of the teams. He's been probably don't know who he is, so I don't know what he's been doing that like. He would have been popping up in the world so this. This was surprising to see hosting this. I am quickly scrolling through speaking of Akiva, Akiva texted me or message me whatever. A very funny thing and the moment passing as Oh. He said Vernon Davis the three hundred and twentieth best player in the NFL so random. He must have a good agent. A. Maybe. He's part of the CBS by stuff like that because now since he's now world. Maybe that's the crossover. If part of the premium show I can't I don't know if he's starting to do that now. BE I. Don't know it's it's very odd. It's very odd. How'd you think he did Otter? Not Honestly don't think he was. Bad I thought HE S. Whether he wants to show another. Probably not it seemed like he at least got good cliff. Notes understand what was going on. I thought the questions were fine I think he. Asked him follow. UPS were needed I. Don't know I I don't think he took away from it. He wasn't the best, but I thought he was fine. Yeah I was a little stiff like I didn't really have far. Be It from me to critique him, but he did say that bananas and West Have Been Fighting for twenty years. which isn't saying I. Mean I just think the editing should have been better on that and not not aired him saying that, but I don't yeah. He obviously has no idea what's going on which is fine. I thought he was like a little robotic. What I want in a host is someone who's going to ask the tough questions. Bring me Nessa. Had this conversation with Johnny leg and Molly today like they're like. We like Valentina that. Valentino was a little messy. But at least I want you to be able to stop the fights after too long. I mean that wasn't really zoom issue. But when people are screaming for attention, let's be able to stop those fights pivot, but also ask follow ups and I think that's our vernon loss. Me Thought he was good enough host, but he just let everybody say as much or as little as they wanted. He didn't press anyone. He didn't like even when Ashley he asked. Ashley, directly about. The J. Bananas and Morgan Thing, and that happened on MTV and he was like. Do you have a response to that? It's like that's fact that there's nothing to dig. We know what happened asking direct question anyway, so he obviously wasn't my favorite I I. Don't know why they don't try to be more consistent with the host. It feels that they really just randomly every season bringing someone new. There's no I don't know why. Why they wouldn't want to get someone to this year after year to like either a get them reps to do this and then be in this world so much you understand whether or not you're watching the show or not. If you have done this three or four times, you can pick up. What happened pretty quickly, so it's very odd why they wouldn't want to have someone be more established as the host for this. Also, like there are so many people especially in the sports world, who are fans of the challenge if they want a sportsperson. But yeah I mean somebody in our threat and the patron group posted like who should be the host and fully Bay Shimon said Devon Cima, which I think is a great suggestion. I absolutely I she will, she'll be great. One hundred percent I think it happened so one part of this world do it would be one hundred percent the way to go. She's from the challenge world. She's been in a final. She has connections. To deeply ingrained end. She's a professional host like it's all. Check check check. All right, so we have to get to the fashion. That's the best part of any reunion for you. I know Caitlin glancy says what was your favorite and least favorite it. So for me, not the Alphabet, but I enjoyed bananas, clearly having the most professional and largest Mike just like taking up three quarters of his camera. I very much enjoyed his his zoom look. It, was so exciting to see honestly very distracted by everyone's backgrounds in their homes. It's really wild to see the income disparity, the wealthiest Maradi between bananas and West, and like pretty much everybody else on the cast, at least as it comes out in their homes. Yeah, I love Josh in case you were. Quarantine for big brother. I love that. No, you don't love that that. Why don't I love that? Because they were not always quarantining together, they flew to Miami like him. Casey Casey's girlfriend Mattie. We're like on boats in Florida, which is like now that the hub of the virus without mass altogether, and they had not been there since March. I started thinking back. I don't that is funny. It challenged. People are horrific. Forget West this thing I mean forget it. West is thing plus them in Miami, plus like Angela, who you know I stand just flew to Miami to meet Janelle for maximum the beach and they're doing in Miami like in what World I. Honestly I, can't. Stay inside I'm disgusted. Is this thing over? Is that done? Did, it ever have start. Thinking, happen at some point and I feel like probably what if it was still going on as far as more people wouldn't of been there. Pop them, maybe more people wearing at the same time. SORTA kinda throughout the caused harm relit. So. Let's say I do love. A lot of the women had flowers in the background. Like not like you know. They don't always have flowers like I'm at random wall behind them just like casually cropped into frame. Lot Of redecorating in a few hours before this for sure, I'm sure. I have to say feel like the bedrooms. A strange choice like corey was in his bedroom. Jenin Zack were in their bedroom. We're choice. I feel like for Zoom, call. Motor the bed in the background. But here's why they will be in separate rooms. That makes sense. That's a requirement. Yeah I mean who knows maybe. Taylor and the baby, any other rooms, the better. I thought that. They probably went out or like the chance or something. They had other places to go. I feel like if you're doing zoom reunion, and you have a baby, they're not staying in the house, but maybe you're right. What do we think of that? What are we gonNA Nominees Camera Angle being preposterously off to the fact that anytime. She was when she was young. Say It looks like she was just straight young at the ground that was throwing me off the whole time. It was very strange like I bet she has like a Webcam that you can like pop on your computer with. It's like attached ceiling. Basically, it was like. Why did. In Priroda Ninety, maybe lower the camera, a little bit to give the illusion release looking there. Now that's the best angle from on high. So deal with it. Let's talk outfits though I did, I did contact our fashion correspondent, molly black, who did not have much to say but. She said Bailey, and big t look gorge. Jenny seemed like she did tube barely saw her I. Don't know an shocked me. I'll echo I think Bailey. What's interesting? This sort of the reunion? Where like car was ahead of her time in terms of what dress was appropriate because like? Car. I feel like really pioneered the extremely casual reunion outfit. And in these zoom reunions I've watched them on Bravo. You know this is like you know vanderbilt rules. Did it did it and the people who are like turning up like it's a regular reunion in. Tel Dress I. Think always look stupid while beautiful. They look stupid I think this cast actually by and large nailed. The I'm at home, but I'm going to. You know, Kyle an idiot. Corey and they're like t shirts, but. Nelson I thought had a great look. He was pulling that shirt. That's a hard shirt to wear. I thought Nelson was pulling it off. I thought ninety were the perfect dress like the daytime kind of, but still cute dress Bailey, the epitome of effortlessly gorgeous like it looked like she threw on whatever, but it ended up being like the most gorgeous color on her, and I want dress amazing. Ashley. Will always give you the mandatory drink of looks like they're gesture there on vacation she she was wearing like a long sleeve sequin number that I lived as yes Ashley. Okay Ashley go ahead. Put that on. You've why not dress up, but then she reveals that it's literally just like a Bra Crop Top. And she's full torso under who toaster her can loved it now. That's the worst dress honestly, but I loved it because it was Ashley. Ball all great points. I like the West being called out for being a politician on his off very funny. Comparison yet. Kyle, where a basically ripped up shirt, not the best like other than that I think everyone everyone look great. I also like that West shaved his beard. Yeah, he did. Kudos to him or whoever encouraged him to do that? Eight. And this is something that I didn't even realize happens really on zoom reunions, but they definitely didn't have all. However, many people were there at once. We had the small groups. We had them cycling out. I. Think we definitely got some cut. Reactions of people laughing. Who probably weren't even like in zoom for that part of it for sure. For that part I thought they did really smooth nice transitions, but how worried was josh that he wouldn't have the opportunity to pick a fake fight with somebody more important than I'm sure he probably did that. The first Shansi ad or at the second on camera make sure I get my fight in. To make sure that makes air especially with West. Doubly perfect. I'm sure you took every opportunity that. I did love how when they talk about. The final swaggie remains in frame with Baileigh. Josh gets cut out. Josh. One more technical question. You mentioned bananas big microphone. There were so many. Between the technical I didn't already say this. My brain is like no I. Don't think so. I'm having bad Deja blue and I'm like would brian drug if I already said the same sentence today, but I don't think you would think he were just running through questions clocked out for the best so. Yeah I was GonNa say it's because you're you. Don't listen, but I didn't WANNA. Be Mean about it, but since he said it all right, so so some people had these secret service earpieces that coil behind. Bananas has a microphone. Kenny's got like shitty headphones. What happened like I was trying to think about it like maybe in the US, they sent them these earpieces. But They Josh and Casey. CASE SPLITTING EAR buds. Maybe the weeks leading up to it, they are a weekly. They did test runs, and whoever failed. They got upgrades and everyone else at to do what they had. I don't know how the the behind the scenes that this would get set up. It's yeah, it's a good question. Why Jenny's wearing like you know ten dollar headphones and also the. Set up I don't know how those things get decide. It's very very interesting. Yeah I. Like how survivor because it was so early like gave a sort of behind the scenes of how they accomplished. It I think that would be cool. Maybe include that in the next week's thing. Ra! As we get into the discussion here. Not a lot of attention paid to really Jenny or bananas. In terms of being the winners I feel like they sort of Yada Yada that they did not give Jenny Kudos unless I missed it of being the overall winner. Jenny winning the million just to re edit. And then we have Jenny being like well. Listen, listen listen. I'm not a champion and actually liked bananas here, lifting her up and being like no, you win one super bowl champion. Yeah, if you want to see legend or like some other Grand Jewish word, you could say that, but champions is all. That's just one so spun. She, she apparently the greatest of all times saying you'd. Also yeah, do you think it was related to the controversy or just that? It wasn't that exciting result like I? Feel like they really did not discuss the win. Then, you really didn't even discuss the final at all. Even altogether, some of the intricacies I. Mean I guess not having Rogan. They're probably took away for some of it for the guys because they couldn't talk about the elimination and decisions, but yeah I was surprised. They didn't really go full in-depth. But what is it really to talk about like? Oh, how tough was the truck through the snow? It was tough. Out there is a segment. Yeah they sort of. I feel like they played Bailey out, and yes Melissa was pregnant and I don't think she deserves shit for quitting but like. They really they like. Re showed Bailey quitting and saying and TJ saying finals aren't for everyone obviously when they show Melissa quitting they more of like a heroic effort to have triumphed, and I was like really okay, but did you know and maybe I just close watcher of the show whatever? Did. We know they were in Austria. I don't think solitaire and said pack up lead, but I. don't think they ever specifically said where they were going to. Although they probably did and like you said. That is why named her daughter that right Vienna. That's where she. There, you go to make that connection. Because I was barely. I went to a hospital in Australia's. Records crab. don't ask me. I truly couldn't care. Let me make this clear that I could not care less post-season last time where we didn't know where they were the entire time. So at least this is just the final. That was this season we were like we don't know where they are then. He sees it. It's crazy that she found out that she was four months pregnant. That's while I mean it's wild. It's just so crazy impressive that she was able to do all that and Mike handle all that and. It's it's. It's wild. I could never never never imagine. How did you were you aware of the rumors that the baby was kyle that had escaped me. Yeah, that that missed by wave like? Anything that was saying I'm not surprised that would pop up. Surprising got as much I thought it would be of any. Jokes here there, but the fact that it seemed to be like a legitimate pain that bad to address this kind of crazy. Yeah, and then it seems like they're still addressing it like I think the the answer is I think Kyle and Mel have chemistry can be platonic chemistry. Who cares the reason like? They definitely have chemistry together. I would ship them. Yeah, I mean. They clearly got along great all season. They clearly have a very close friendship but Yeah A. If they wanted to go things further for them, it'd be great together. Did you catch Corey killing a bug. This conversation read Cube. Had the throwback are memorable moment with the bug? So that was very probably okay, so let's take. Let's take tangent. What made you re? Post it so for anyone is a new listener. There I went back and listened. Which is why raising it? Because the best part was cut out real, there was nothing that happened. I listened to it I was in my time office. Three or whatever it was like Oh. This is the moment or this is the podcast. Wait, say that again. It was Mike Fire Time Hop. On this day and I don't know what time happens. Either I'm one of the cool kids. Know what it is. I see boomers posting. Tame hops, but I never investigated getting it. Rolling with my morning coffee I see what was that tweeting about this two three four or five years ago? And you're you don't like to revisit what I was tweeting. Drew Berry. No I mean so basically I was. This was my one L. Summers. This was like two years ago three years ago. Whatever who cares two, thousand, seventeen and a giant ass bug I? Remember I described it on the podcast. It's thirty minutes in like almost exactly and I describe it. Explain it, but then. Obviously shadow to Scott saint-pierre or US, but definitely Scott I miss. You listen you transition fluidly forty five minutes. and. Then you make a joke about a bug and I'm like Brian saying that because we decided to call it for five minutes while I screamed about the bug, so we stopped recording, and you listen to me. I thought it was. I thought it was more on the podcast. I don't know if later in the PODCAST. It doesn't get worse, but the part that I really remember like screaming and running around and trying to kill it and making it worse, that was not that got cut out very seamlessly because I didn't notice the jump. But I will say I could not even make it through our own podcast. Shout out to the listeners of this I. Don't know how you deal with it I literally wanted was actively trying to listen and had to turn it off. There's nothing worse than the sound of your own voice so I I can't imagine listened to myself. Talk either so. It wasn't even that. You'd be quality. Outages were saying it was just so bad. It was just. It was funny. That's the season it was episode one and that's the season where we did like a preview and we forgot Nelson all. Star, we've come. Now a top of the heap. Released says more about Nelson. He's really improved. Okay. Let's get back to this. Sorry, so corey kills a bug. But. I think Oh, so they roll the footage there, they they call the snitch outline and they roll sneak C. Three scenes of Mel and Kyle. Did you find anything damning in the in the? Euro. Explains the splice together like a few to second clips of a you can make anything seem bad. In those moments, it doesn't look good, but. Given the context of the whole I, it doesn't I think the whole grand scheme would make me not seem as bad but yeah those two seconds. It seems like it's more than flirting, but I mean. Short context that make anything like that. I, the one the first clip was the worst and then I thought the other two were very like. Whatever Matt Stuart says I felt so naive, seemingly being the only one shocked about Kyle and Melissa tape that was revealed. I must be flirting wrong because that was way more than any flirting. I've ever done now. Thought that Kyle for anyone I know some people are skipping the reunion. Basically, they rolled footage of. Mel Sitting on Kyle's lap and kyle hand down her sweatpants like in harass so yeah, not great. You're being generous to say cut two minute clip I would venture to guess Brian that I could not find a two minute clip of you doing that and you're not even on live television. Like it's like you know that's that's wild. Like that is really wild to then say oh, it was just friendly flirting. Yeah, no, I'm sure, but it's also different like I mean. I know that I. Don't think Melissa's with. The baby. That was a girlfriend. Okay, so it gets back that. is. What is your girlfriends? Say about the rumors now. Maybe Kyle was single on the show and is now. That's what I. Thought, okay, so maybe that then who cares but I thought it was being shown because it was like 'cause then I did like how the host went around and was like how would? Taylor, react and I love Corey, being like I could never get away. Making the sale of joke, Mike and I saw my mind. Instead I have Nelson. Sit on my lap. Once again, making it a his best season for sure Oh. My God I love Koreans. I found myself watching Corey's instagram story. I Follow Corey, obviously and Cheyenne, and writer K does. Some exceptions but But Corey. Was Watching Corey is like working out and it's like yeah, get them gains. I'm working out like I'm make room scared. Whatever showing his ads and I found myself being like. Oh, I hope he wins the season forgetting that he is already lost. Rewrite go back to time. Still Rooting for he. But the the most interesting part. I think of the reunion. Really was the Noni of and all ninety out that was. Some interesting discussions I think I agree. Well far, be it for me to shame anyone for being a neighboring wanted. What was what was going like naughty was not. A sober non I. DON'T WANNA like I. Don't know, but we've seen enough of Donnie and it seemed like she was already in an emotional place. Let's say that well. She says he was up since foyer. I mean if you're saying you're up since for, and that would make me believe. It's probably like at that point six seven PM. Of, you don't say like if it's nine am up since four. I think he's got a lot later in the day, so she's probably been awake for twelve thirteen hours about point. So you're you're read on Noni? WAS THAT WAS TIRED? Tired exhausted wants to be done with this. Probably have these conversations. A lot already just hates rehashing a moment that she says herself that she's very embarrassed by just wants to move on. And now she asked to reconstruct it. You know how I feel alcohol zone the enemy. This to me felt like we were protocol podcast. Not Well not on TV well, maybe watching TV, but I feel bad for ninety here. Maybe it was exhaustion, but like la she settles the case east of. I again. This is where I wanted the host to more. The host says Vernon says. Casey you said you kissed in the episode and he's like she's like. This and then we move on okay. What I did not expect. Is What Noni. Start blaming and Lisa like you say like Oh. She's tired. She's sorry she's so I'm million times. Not it comes out hot with I watched the episode now and with fresh eyes. You an ISA are a bad friend, and therefore I'm absolved from the horrible house of horrors I unleashed on you. I did not have that on my twenty twenty Bingo card that honey will flip situation on an ISA. I don't think she was saying she's absorbed I think she's just see that she maybe isn't one hundred percent the way. Maybe she's less to blame. Because I did understand what ninety was saying she was like. We're the ones that are close friends, and if you had a problem with someone of that, I was doing. Why wouldn't you come to me? Instead of the girl that I'm flirting with and I? Do understand that I i. get her point. I get her frustration, she. Set it in went about the wrong way, but I understand her frustration with what did. Forgive an ISA for holding for once the person in the relationship accountable. You know like I, didn't I thought. A niece actually really handled it while she came and she's like all right. Let's unpack this first. You're acting like we're best friends. You didn't treat me like your friend in the house at all. You had one two and I was close with Casey, so. Okay Fair enough. Then Noni. Your mess when you're drunk, I mean she said tough to talk to, but like would you wanNA approach a drunk Noni? You'll be very difficult. And Casey not only is the calmer one she's. The more level headed one. She's the one who actually could put a stop to this in a way that if you talk to Noni while she's drunk. Look what happens and she's got something they'll lose. I, actually was thought it was refreshing to finally be like. Ninety. Yet noni shouldn't be flirting with someone who has a girlfriend, but it's ultimately Casey's job to draw the lines bureau, the barriers and say. I'm with my girlfriend. This is cross the line or I. Don't want this across line or whatever so. I don't think it's that insane Ferdinand to go to the person with the girlfriend and say hey, this might not look great to your girlfriend back at home. It's Kinda crazy for Casey to come in this easy to from? Big Brother Watch for one hundred days and she really had. A snippet of drama and she was very much a focal point of two of the biggest dramatic events of the season with this whole triangle, her her thing with Bailey, so it is kind of crazy. How much he's really one of the dominant dramatic parts of this reunion. Yeah and I think it shows like it's another pro in the it'll be interesting in an ulcer season of big brother how this pans out, but like when you don't have prior relationships and you come into a fresh house, and you make a six person alliance that you just win now in stick through the whole time you know it's less drama, but when you come in with shorter messy baggage, and you have old friends and new friends and choices and. You know relationships back at home. You know that definitely changes. The alcohol definitely changes the game especially when you're pulling people from the same show. From the seems like season like big brothers, obviously I'm sure like the community, and even if you're not on the same season, you probably starting to like a friendship and hang out with each other outside before this show rather than picking you know one or two people from all these random shows you how they used to be of the railroad where people would be like a community. Each other before even going into the challenge, even if they weren't part of the same season so doing that with big brother, maybe some other shows would even add that to allow. Characters the have some history with each other to kind of cultivate and get further along during these seasons. There you go. Yeah sure. Come on, come on. Give us your tired. Your drunk. Your huddled masses. Where will the? First Big Brother. I. I. Get what you're saying. Maybe. Ninety has a leg to stand on what she completely loses me here the way she goes about it and Marie and Jimmy and some other people have been talking well before this about mental health and reality television, and the ways in which networks don't provide support for people who show up on a show, and face the wrath of the Internet and people like us and people worse than us. And that's real and like I. think that's that's a problem that I think should be glad. People are talking about. I know you know. Hannah Shapiro talks a lot about it. But. So, so maybe it. Got A lot of. Obviously we're not thankfully like on the forums contributing to hate and so therefore we're not seeing the hate. That Nani got as a result of this, and maybe that's. Impacting her here, but I think she ended up making herself. Look a lot worse by having this reaction because then. When a Nissan takes to a place of like. Well was it right or wrong? Like regardless of if I, should have come to you like the things you said to me and you put your hands on made like I wouldn't have done that regardless of what you did, and I let an I made it okay like I was okay with it and then threatens to leave. She I think she has an overreaction to being held accountable and again. She's probably dealing with a lot. Obviously over to a lot of things, but You know like of course I feel bad about it. I'm ashamed. I'll never do reality television again. I'll walk off again. I think trying to make yourself look like the victim in a situation where you did harm is not a sympathetic position to take, even if she has suffered as a result of her own actions. Donnie probably faced a lot of internal struggles, washing her back and watching probably. Being on TV for? That'd be close to a decade now for it's. It's got to be a lot. Connor who watching says? Non Is actually done with reality TV because of her actions towards an ISA, or will we see her messy self back next season I'm sure we'll see her mousy self exit. She's so essential to the show. That's a thing like you know. We see Noni later I. Mean it was absolutely hilarious when she comes back and is like me and an Easter fine. I'm over it like that was really. That's what I think I. This was not a normal, not like whatever, but but she ends up walking off the show and they show it in like. An outtake. Oh, she's like you know what I'm done. I've had enough encloses her laptop and we're to believe that she just like left. Rate was at your take I think so because you just you know closed out unplugged in I went to sleep. She doesn't seem easy to work with you know, but I do think she is essential to the show such that she as long as it's not. Acting in a way that will get you removed from the show I think she could be as difficult to work with as she wants to be. She's coming back. She's getting invited back time and time again. Because Magin this season without ninety I mean imagine this reunion without ninety. There was nothing going on. I think as long as she wants to come back for the foreseeable future. She'll be back. Worry, though I don't think it's good for her like it's clearly bad for her. I mean luckily, but with everything going on this is now probably going to be an extended break from reality TV, so it'd be nice to recharge the batteries and get away and then whenever this show comes back she. will be in a better space better space. which is wild because she talking, she's set the tone for taking a break and coming back and. Is Worse. She's bad right. Pornography. Did you get any more clarity on the BASI basically? Bassi situation the Bailey Casey story line. I mean it seems like it's just. Came into the house seemingly least from Bailey side of it closer friends Dan I. Think Casey realized they were, and then the one thing that I got out of it was it seemed like Bailey threw the first punch in regards to y things started to unravel when Casey brought up at Bailey, was starting the throw her under the bus to tribunal and billy kind of Greek. She never really denied. That was necessarily openings so the fact that it happened. It does add a little more credence to Casey turning her back on. If she if she felt, it was already during our. What dot she did because she said like you should have come to me and said I heard this and then. I was like well. She's not really denying it, but then she said Noni was in the tribunal. Why would I do that? That would be stupid so to me. I thought she was denying it. But. We've Seen Bailey when she is like. No, this didn't happen denial mode and she. She wasn't really acting like that which? ADDS Koreans I think probably did either. Maybe she didn't mean it like the way out, but she. said it in of way that would make Casey believe it did happen so A. We've seen barely getting super like defensive mode, and that's just not how she seen. She said I wouldn't do that in front of Noni. That would be stupid so. They had a miscommunication obviously like. And then they even have a miscommunication over whether or not. They talked about it like Casey Casey's like I did come to you and Bailey's like. No, you did it and I think they leave it at. They're not going to be friends but Edward. Morris says and this is maybe a big brother cast boiler although I don't care. Give you second to skip ahead. Edward Moore said how much will be here about the challenge? Big Brother, all stars so basically, Casey, Josh and Bailey are all rumored to be on this next season starting August fifth. So it will be interesting if their lack of friendship beholds up. Yeah, that'd be great I think they've on might be on it this a whole. Challenge sorel taking over Bay brawler. Cursing McGuinness had one of the greatest tweets of all time because polycom. Got It's the challenges to big brother one show. Well, he was rumored it was like actually. It's actually cody. There's just rumors like putting Paulie like wait. No, it's whatever. Curses tweeted a picture, cody. Like what you see online when you order it. Like what comes in the? Corinthian Star they should have just got twenty people and film separate seasons of the challenge survivor and big brother all at the same cast show see what happens. There you go silence silence. Maybe what is he talking about? Oh you said. This is what I said before. I was like never said that to me. It was more me thinking like I haven't heard you say this. Sure Just like we'll settle this beef west Madonna's after reportedly twenty years, not true. settled. With the implied in. Fifteen years west later says. A. Cool like I to me. My reaction to this moment was like there's no issues here. Move On. It was just like who knew who didn't of course nineties like I knew the time. The real icons suss out I think she wants doing the House for sure. I did love West saying look. We had no bad blood about going against each other. We both are smart. We both thought there were limited time. She wanted to go in I. Mean West isn't going to get aired. Saying like it was a good moment to produce, but that was definitely part of it. But he says the whole premise was that TJ was gonNA lock us off at the end, and with the information I had that was the decision I made. Thank you us. Yeah I know. I still don't necessarily think decision. But yes, with the information you had and the way that you were being lied to I agree. That's kind of always really you know this is eight, or if there was one more I thought it was the right decision, but clearly there were. As many chances as for us to get in those wrongly, he can't know that so I. Stand with him standing by himself. Yeah I'm trying to think. About actually I mean Ashley. Think also had a great moment where. She had. With I am a storyline on me to make one up. That she really calls people out four pre-game in the way that bananas calls her out for being nice to people in the house. She's like yeah. Why Make Relationships Day of I? Don't pre-game and I don't I. Don't manufacturers storylines which I liked it? They aired her saying that because it really is true I think the challenges more willing than other shows to lean into the conversations, people are having about pre-game relationships pre-game stuff. People tweeting you made the storyline up whatever I liked that they're showing that on the screen and I think we're probably a season or two away if they eat both keep coming back for that long for bananas and acid start working together because I I really be so close seeing I just they just have gone into work yet, but I see them working together very soon. And that's. What we've been saying for seasons like it makes no sense for Western bananas to keep going at it like this. I love that they didn't make some fake bullshit like Oh, we got along. We like each other whenever I liked it. They were like we were gonNA keep losing. We had to work together because they were stacking the deck against us. For Bananas Obviously So. I mean said. All right so so then Ashley also. It gets brought up that Ashley tweeted that. Why are we not? Speak for the people actually thank you. Why are we not discussing that? Bananas J. Share Mutual Ex? Barry Fair question. was answered pretty clearly why it was not shown on. The show is Jay said he walked up. The giant seemingly got discussion one of the first days, both they no beef with each other. So what are they gonNA show. I mean I think to me I also felt it was clear why it wasn't shown and I. Think it was at the behest of bananas. Because yeah, of course, nothing comes of it, but how many stories like this would there be a build up for an episode and a half until the vote happens and then Bananas Votes jae-in or bananas and Vote J. in, or whatever like they've make nothing out of something they make something out of nothing. All the time like this was something this to me was why Jay. Jay was cast on the show in the first place and I feel like bananas. Is Very Cagey and interviews about talking about Morgan? Morgan doesn't WANNA do reality TV if she did, we wouldn't be together like I wouldn't want my relationship in the public eye, and they were both so awkward about this when it got brought up, bananas had nothing to say about it like. I think bananas is very strong about not wanting to talk about his relationships and I think they've pretended him in the past with his hookups. and to me, this was again sort of like a blackbox area, and yeah, Okay Jay did go up and say like we have no beef I don't think that they couldn't have made that something. But if they wanted to fully protect them, they probably didn't even show this like I. Don't think if they didn't show actually bringing this up I. Don't know of how many times where people clamoring. Why didn't they bring this I? Really would just was. I don't know. Maybe you're I just to me. It felt very cagey bananas. Show wants to. Talk about it for sure I. Just think if they really wanted to highlight it. They could have just John. This wasn't even that long us. It was like a one minute clip could have easily just cut out. I guess but I mean I feel like that has happened in the past to? We're like they don't air footage of bananas like hooking up, but then they may be talking to this happened or union, and he's like Nah, and then they move on right. I have my tinfoil hat. I think bananas. It's like very well understood that he doesn't WanNa talk about Morgan. Maybe he's Oh. That I'm not saying that I'm just saying I think if it was a fight on the show like Jay needed a fight. I think they would've showed it. I just think he was just. There was just nothing there, and there's just that's. That's why I mean. They cut out parts of other people's. She'll like they out storylines like Tori and US off. That would have played into voting rolls that they did show for whatever reason so I think they just cut things out? Just tell a specific story. I. Just don't think there was any there to show. especially. If As a confessional is not gonNA. Say Anything. They probably can't even spice that into the show, either so I don't know what they really could do. No I was GONNA. Say the same thing that if bananas is unwilling to fight about it know he's smart about it I. Don't know I guess I just felt like he didn't get pressed at all. And maybe he did, and we didn't see it, and he got pressed and he really wouldn't talk about it i. Rob Freeman says Wise Bananas Open about his relationship with Morgan. On the show I understand it when his girlfriend was, a private citizen May shows professional athlete, but they met on the challenge and clearly storylines. Being left on the table reminds me a lot of Stasi. In Law on vk rules, you shouldn't be able to use your status to shield your private life. Everyone else is putting it all out there and he should be, too. I don't know that I agree with this but I also don't agree that. Like I think they banana should talk about it. I. I think if. If it becomes a storyline. It'll be discussed and until does. I think they'll keep it where it is. I guess there was no reason for jd beyond the show otherwise until to not pay off was frustrating to me as someone who watched ex on the beach. What do I think? Everybody has to put their relationship on the stage for the challenge. No, I don't think it's the same as as vander pump roles, but a different show. That's a show like about their lives. This is theoretically game show so. There's people on the show that don't really dive into their personal lives unless it becomes something that's worth talking about. I did think Jay's response is kind of gross. I think Jack. She kind of came off bad at the reunion like when he was like Oh. Man, NYQUIL! You took chick congratulate. House. That was kind of a bad lot leading up to that I. Don't know. What happened Jamie Morgan between us? What happens when you choose between you and it's fine and the Ad Allen throwing me off. That's. What happened with them was bad like like. Morgan was with Jay on the challenge, and then like decided, she didn't want to be with him, or maybe they weren't like. Hot and cold, and then like when across the country, when Joe Bananas Morgan Got Eliminated With Bananas and claims. That? She didn't cheat on Jay. She kind of did reveal at the reunion of it was actually a big storyline in the reunion about some beach, because Morgan and bananas, the season filmed in between ex on the beach and the reunion on the beach so like it really was drama. You know. was bad like it was basically. Bananas Quote Stool Jay's girlfriend, you know. She obviously has agency but. And, so like it's up I. Think Jay should've at least gotten to have a confessional about it being after up, but him deciding to put it behind him for the sake of the game. Even that without bananas is an interesting storyline. I would have liked to see. Maybe, we still may be good if it goes back on the pops up. Yeah, I guess. I don't think I. Think we're done after I mean like Jay's. J to me read so cold. ONSCREEN I mean we're all going through hell right now, so I shouldn't really say anything Jamie's going through stuff. Like if you're sleeping during unions out the best look. He was he was not popping. Popping little, Jay's stopping. I regret that. I support. They, talk about Josh I oh I have is that Josh says he's GonNa take the L., but we actually took the L.. That's that's how I felt about the Josh segment you. Almost, they're not much. Did the Kayla stop was sort of interesting? Get like at least her. Everything went down whereas clear. You know she was going to get out of this relationship and just use bear as the reason. Just I mean. That's what we have speculated on all just kind of the first person. Get it from her. Yes she ties it up. She broke up with their boyfriend cleared up moved out went to the UK for two weeks and I have that out of order, but who cares and that was it? And now she's happy with Sam who again they didn't mention was on ex on the beach, but that's fine. They should a picture of him. So. Yes, she seems happy and. whatevs! Weren't Josh people like Josh came off so well like Yeah Josh handled himself well, and it seems like he got the respect of Noni and Wesson Bananas defending him but I. Just don't find him to be that interesting as of now. I agree is pretty intertwined in this world, though so I think people who are climbing from the never come back. I think that's pretty unlikely. Oh No Josh's definitely here to stay but I just I'm like whatever? I would've thought Tony would be here for the long haul and here we probably his choice though will be my. Oh, of course. Yeah, but who knows some saying? What Joshua's life will end up being true? Maybe it goes. Big, brother, getting doesn't need the money anymore. I would have said. Tony would've never opted out of the child like forget his choice or not I would have thought we'd be Tony on the challenge for forty years. And do you think Tony over comeback? I think everyone will always come back so I'll say yes. I'll come back. What people care if Tony came back? I, think probably still they went, so it was his last season when he was with. Jonah as a rival was at a rival rivalry. Think that was the last season. I'm GONNA say that stick to it. When did he propose? Last night. Yeah I think. That's. An Johnny was that Okay Maria Pine them. We'll go. I just I just think with Tony. It's like I. Don't think he has that many more seasons where people still be excited. I feel like he's got a smaller window. Very Fair is mark long hitting him up for the old schools. He's sitting everyone else up. Fees qualify world. We get a clip back to Nelson's bad days. Reminding US what I love. The Don Nelson with the PORTA potty accusation on Kayla. Was it a lie possibly, but it was a rumor, okay? Fine he didn't make it up. He did hear it, but he knew it wasn't true. It's Nelson's that that was yeah. I mean it's not true, but I heard it. So I get to say it's the challenge. But it's probably falls, but it's here so it's true, was it? You. Believe! It Or a unfortunately, we had to seize Zach I was curious. This is not a question. Anybody really knows the answer to. But if this isn't a zoom finale and this was live is Zach. There is x scaping in or only doing this, because it's a pandemic I would say most likely skype in would be my assumption unless. They still I don't know where they live, but maybe if they think they live in the area so I think. The machine. Okay, it's never mind. I would say probably not I would say he's skype in. Pan Zach he has the ugliest mean Mug on his face, and I have never felt like Zach was more relatable because his face upon seeing himself on the screen, the same as face, seeing him on the screen. And I mean I get people want this? And he literally was not on the season but I think I mean they had to address it, and in the circumstances the back agendas. What are they? GonNa in the room talking about this. In the bathroom just try not to be seen like yes, sure I mean it's definitely do Co. by the fact that it was. It was Janna and Zach Dramas so the fact that Zach would be the house. I mean you put them on the screen? I mean there wasn't there and they were talking about Kayla bear. Yeah I mean I think that's probably. Other factors I think if they were bears like like wife and they were talking about that I think there would have been in the screen I. Guess I'm more saying that I think Zach has done as much. As anyone who is not allowed three union. If we'd never see again, that's totally fine I. Just met for this specific circumstance I mean. It's probably makes sense for him to be that. No, but I'm saying there are a lot of people would made sense to be on the reunion who were not invited onto their union I mean look Jordan Tori live together so i. don't I. Don't know why I'm subjected to seeing Zach when Zach has has done enough to warrant never being on, and he wasn't even on the season, so let Jenna who was asked to be on. Speak for her family, just as Tori, and you know I guess Taylor is not really involved, but Corrie was there without her like you know. I I don't get why he gets to be on to talk about how terrible he acted. Yeah. I'm just just sucks with the general once again, defending him and standing by him. Just clear like I mean I. Know I hope they're happy. It was interesting I mean. I did like hearing Zach. Say like it doesn't matter what I found on her phone. We were stronger than that and I should have known. We would have worked it out and I shouldn't have acted like that I mean he doesn't quite apologize, but he doesn't act justified, although he later than says he was justified, and Jenna is like I would have done the same thing if I thought he cheated on me. I'm going to say zero percent chance. Jenner would have done the same thing. The situation was reversed. From our from our agenda is just not how she act so. Quite out of character. The craziest part was they asked Korea question, and obviously the rumors are that what Zach found involved. Corey and Corey gives Jenna props. Like Oh, I invented Barbie Beast, and like I'm of course. Geno wasn't gonNA. Let Tori win and they cut Zach geno looking so furious as corey compliments her that I was like Oh my God. Guys like pretend to be chill right right and it's already said the same thing that. She thought Geno would be an easy win in happened and a good for Genita-. Out? Also, again, a bad look for I feel like. Another bad look for Tori I mean you didn't agree with me, but I felt like Tori kind of looked bad in that episode and then here she is being like there were reasons I had think that Jenna was going to throw the challenge to me. It's like all right well. That was your fault for going in relying on somebody losing on purpose, not coming to win. You know? Let me just went around if it's a stick, elimination very odd. I did love the genius of End West like confessing I. Think this is why wasn't bananas are able to act so shady and the game? But then like come back from it with the same people, because basically like ninety we discuss like had gone on instagram and twitter, and was like Jenna asked to quit and I'm taking the heat, and like this is unfair, and gentlemen was like I. Never asked to quit, but like. Don't give me shit. And the truth comes out that wes in an order to keep Noni from being angry at him in the game, lied and said Gentlemen and deal with him. Something that could have been brought to Phnom as attention before. She tweeted that her friend was Aligarh, but. This is a classic move for. He brings this up every once in a while. Sometimes, he'll admit to ally to seem honest, so he could lie again in the future. This is a perfect example of it where he comes cleaning. Clean. I'm an honest guy, and then we can come up with a different light from people next season, and be like honest person, and he gets out of it exactly exactly. It's a special skill. Are just two questions and we're going to be done. You know we're going to be out of here. Alicia Rosen, says anyone know Jordan? Was Our he and Tori still together I. Don't follow. These people on social media should forgive me if it's not answer. Yes, Tori and Jordan are still together engage. Let's address where everybody was so a lot of people weren't there? Mattie, wasn't there. Rogan wasn't there obviously wasn't there Jordan, wasn't there? And then I feel like I'm forgetting people, but those were. I think the three the four. Like! What's her name Jan wasn't there obviously but I mean provinces right? And what you got. surprised. That the league knowledge the thing and all. Did you think would bring up like? Ask anyone or anything about that? Yeah. I thought they were going to use it as a teaching moment and I. I wish they would like. That's I mean I know like survivor? That, sort of more than I would expect from the challenge what they did with with Kelly and I'm not saying that was handled perfectly. I didn't expect that I'll say that. But I did expect a conversation about it or an acknowledgment about it I also think some peaceably to fill people in the rumors are and I. Don't think this is really been confirmed anywhere. Is that Maddie and Jordan? And Forget and bear. Were not allowed to reunion do to. Like similar issues or other controversies that MTV has decided they're not allowed at the reunion, and there are further rumors that. Jordan has made some sort of unofficial deal that he'll just like quietly not beyond for like two to three seasons now. This could be totally made up right like we don't know this for sure. I just think what good is being done. By letting these people quietly slink off. And, not you know we've found out the truth about Camilla de gets public gets a banner dropped every before every episode, which again I is deserved. But why are we protecting Jordan and bear if matty if that's the case for them as well? Done things that are just as bad in. Is No. I don't know it's. It's very odd you, didn't you? For whatever reason you don't WanNa go as far as the band one of them for life be like just come out and publicly. They're banned for two seasons. This is their punishment like we. This is what we're doing. It will be weird to you, know they they. D- They WANNA. Take us as they should take a stand against this, they would do not tolerate any more they want to. Be Pub with its odd to then go backwards on it like you were just did it. Just like these people are banned from the reunion, their band for a season there for two seasons, or whatever it is yeah, I, don't know why they wouldn't do that if you don't want. Ban People for life. That's your product. If you do what you want for your your show, but if you're going to ban them. Just make it public. I think Jordan has no business being allowed on this show anymore. That's my I'm going to say that. That's my opinion. I don't know what happened with Barron Mattie. I, just know from watching the seasons of the real world the Jordan. I honestly ashamed that. I forgot that so easily. But I remember watching that I, really remember watching it, and knowing then how horrible it was, there is no oh, it was ten years ago and I didn't know you know how bad that was, and then I've listened to interviews Jordan since not recently, but around the same time. I mean. Question Mark on rehabilitation and things. But like, but if you're banning de there, you have no business, not banning Jordan yeah, and that's where the the slippery slope of where you draw the line. What constitutes it and it's. It's like I got a day. It's a very. It's very complicated thing. Yeah, I mean slippery slope. Feels, like it's like well. Don't do it at all because. You don't know where to draw the line like the decision people need to make. They need to decide where to draw the line, and basically they haven't not very very much dot, and if they're going publicly or on publicly like going back and forth with even doing that is the whole thing is very messy. Alright fly fisherman. Who Do you think needs hiatus? Who Do, you think should come back right now like Corey did. We, just said. You know we miss them a lot, so having him back will be a lot of fun. I mean who who should take a hiatus. The problematic people. I really enjoyed this whole. I like this. This core group of people that we have going right now. I really don't have a lot of people that I'm wishing to not come back. Where do we stand with car? And polly? Now that we've had a season without them. Did you miss them? They miss them vis season, but I do think it's okay for them to come back the mix, and it does I. Think now that we've had a season removed from the kyle thing I really doubt that would pick back up again if they're brought back unless something else happens between them so I don't think subjects of that and I do think they're instrumental. Enough characters that the show would be lacking to not have them at all moving forward so I. do hope they want or both return. a final thought from her fashion correspondent. She actually sent this to me last week, and I forgot juicy that bananas is selling. A Challenge Inspired Replica Jersey for seventy seven dollars and seventy seven cents. Quite the. Price I got the sevens, but maybe do seven dollars and seventy seven cents. I think that would be. A little more apropos for t shirt. Seventy seven, I mean. You don't the. Cell a tenth as much I guess so for him. What is devastating? Is that I'm sure tons of people bought all I'm sure. Seven dollars and seventy seven cents or I might have one not seventy seven dollars though I think. Explain that away. I do think it's challenged Jersey. Material I mean I guess I didn't look I think it's like a Replica Jersey. That's me being generous and saying it's worth maybe more seven dollars, but not certainly seventy seven. Also, shipping so then seven right, so what does that the shipping seven dollars and seventy seven cents? Oh my God I did not look that that much into it. Was the tax included. Nelson, you're out like I duNno, like ninety one dollars and sixty two cents, so let's even the point. I got nothing else. We do a drinking game. So that's fun. That's okay. You don't have social media. I'M NOT GONNA. Thank you. We have one more episodes. You have one more week to get in. Your reviews rob his website. Dot Com challenge tunes. Follow me on twitter at Colin with the Brian the score. Thing you said something so funny about Hunter I was just on the podcast I listened to. That was like I. Forget what you call him being, said something like scathing, not like but scathing about hunter, and I was like Oh my God like if he only knew the original Brian Co and thought of him, he never made insert. Cohen Brian. Still like it's just like over Pasha's so that's the name of Kit. That's a so crazy. Can find the streets. Reunion I! Mean, still I thought it seems the party reunion, or maybe it's they should. They should have shown I. Don't know what they're doing next week. I'll place last episode and some. Other plans. No, I do not so we'll be here talking about whatever the hell they show next week, and that's quite a plug in so that have a go on. Wall In.

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MTV Reality RHAPup | The War of the Worlds Episode 9 Recap Podcast

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MTV Reality RHAPup | The War of the Worlds Episode 9 Recap Podcast

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Discounts not available in all states or situations. The. And. Welcome back to the challenge war of the worlds or hap- Asir episode nine I am Brian gone. As always Michael Alisher. How are you? I am doing great. And I'm just grateful that nobody would ever describe me as attached to the groin attached at the groin with anyone. How are you Brian? I hope I'm not either that's probably that can't be a fun way to live. So now, I'll like anyone should be like that is that not going to be a part of your marriage like was an upper the proposal will you make me the happiest man in the world and be attached at the groin with me for life. Yeah. She said, no. And I had to redo it. And now that's how I got the second one. A second times is charm. Honestly, maybe one of the worst things to come out of the season from ninja. Yeah. Considering like her curse strength is like Gino swinging back and forth looking dominant a geologist. I don't want her to be remembered for an all fan bad analogy. Well, what bothers me about it. And like God forbid, we get right into the show, which we are my God. I pinch me. I don't know. It's who am I what am I Jerry me? Now. I'm like, I thought this was a bad look for ninja like I think ninjas an incredible athlete. But in terms of like the social game we're seeing from her. It's like she has this problem with Polly being with Kara and his blaming bad relationships like communication between them. But am I crazy? They were winning all these challenges like the less. They knew each other the better they did. Yeah. I mean, the only thing she can have a gripe with with paulie, just like the Kyle stuff being constant like barrier. But at I mean, what happened anyone no matter how lovey-dovey are attached to the hip payment car, or it just goes everything from previously. So I don't really understand what Paula was not telling her because they're I mean, they're not the most strategic players. They haven't been they've been being physical place. So I don't know what she feels like he's been hiding from her. Yeah. I really didn't love this throughout you know, the first half of the episode really when she's kind of harping on if were single we'd be doing so much better. And it's just like not a great look. I mean, I'm sure there's annoy look I'm annoyed looking at car on poly like the few times there on the screen per week. I can't imagine. So maybe I should remorse that. That my heart goes out to ninja for having to live in the house with it. But as far as it affecting your challenge performance. I mean, if feels a little jealous. A couple of times a day the struggles I mean was on her like she fell off the tire. At least the one time that has now come into mind by the times. I don't think was ending to do with communication at all. So. Yeah. So you were single that wouldn't have happened. Right. More attached to the tires starting off the podcast alley defending car. Paulie can only go down from here. Is there anything great this episode Yuan defend or no, let's no? But I I am gonna come for west later. So. It's it's is it opposite day thought. Wednesdays are opposite. And I guess I watch us on Wednesday. The late, April Fools. I went to observe in April Fools, months the entire month. Right. But and then just pretty much my whole life. Anyway, let's this conversation between Mattie and Kyle here. Kyle is really not. All right, Ryan. Yeah. He's ninety can't he feels like he's a second class citizen. He's alleys ostracize. No one likes him. He's like us knowing to be the most fun person ever be on the show, and he just can't be a fun loving ways. With around the paulie and Gara. I mean, I really relate to Kyle here. Like, I am the greatest most fun social person. I know and yet the phone doesn't ring. I don't understand. Kyle just doesn't like. Have maybe we've been seeing this coming from Kyle like he's not gelling with the UK people. And really I mean, it's more like his alliance has gotten sent home the people he would be having fun with. So I don't know. I think needs to. End the pity party here and just get over it. So he goes wasn't really set off anything. I mean, they have any big blow of fight like no one else is like voting and like orange just coming off like so many eliminations in a row. There's just seemed like there'd be sparked out of nothing. So you just having a bad day. Yeah. I mean, he's just like on an island though. Because like who's he even with at this point while they're still teams like he's not. I mean, it's debatable. If he's in with west right when like THEO ASA met, he's definitely not in with car and Polly and his whole Lyons has gone home. And he's like trying to Noni maybe, but he just doesn't really have his squad. And despite being the most Social Fund person the house Kyle is powerless without a squad. Which one of these is not let the other. You gotta be feel for matter. You're a little bit like he's been hooking up with Maddie. I guess that's not enough for him. Like, I thought we were. We were having fun me me. You know is that still going on? Or is that just like a one time? I mean, they kissed on the bus in the last like night out we saw so I mean, yeah. I mean, they're not like a long term relationship story on the show, but we've seen them canoed alling again. Right. Not making much of an impact the way definitely not on his life. Apparently. And then we did get Cam saying she's motivated to win because she wants to bring her mom in and that's motivation enough, and they and they zero in on targeting west, I guess this is in cams always really been committed to the UK alliance. And this is just like them vocalizing it. Yeah. I mean, I think she's committed to it as long as like it's good for her. And at this point of his still good for her if she made it longer, and it was more individual than maybe she would venture off if that cedar fit. But she always goes us go to like getting in where the numbers are good. Yeah. And then we get the worst thing to happen. And we thought this was maybe are. After show correspondent take editorializing here. But no, he was not hunter did say that he was going to be a sociopath towards Georgia. I mean. The fact that he asked the scribe being nice to that level of an extreme. I mean, just like how much more does Connor how hunter? The hunter liked amongst the challenge community or like in our in our circle. He's not. But like you think he's liked in the normals. I'm so he's our circle me. You. The drunk at the drug abrogate. If he's I looked comments. I see the comments no one likes hunter. He he's canceled more times than like anyone like the dad normal people. Yeah. Through more than normal people. Do they fall for his like good old country? Boy, stick, I don't know. I really don't know. That's interesting next week. I'll try to remember to go onto like the challenge Facebook page and see what I could dig up. But like I mean hunter as I feel like he's like like tofu like he takes on the flavor of the things he's around like I feel like when hunters with the. Food. He's more like likeable or route at least like slightly to me. But hunter on his own is just tasteless and flimsy in horrible. Like, he go ahead. Sorry. No. I was gonna say he's only likable because he's around Corrie Nelson. So yeah, that's what I'm Sarrasin. Yeah. Like when he's out west. So we love west. It's like oh gosh. Well, I guess wasn't that good that great this episode? But normally we like west, so it's like look this guy. Well, that's the thing. Right. Like, this is totally west is advice and the thing that he thinks. Okay. I'm going to carry the secret grudge against my partner. And absolutely hate her but kill her with kindness. And that's the ticket like, it just is show unnecessary. Like what happened is so small between them, and we got a lot of questions about this. So like to set it up in a very how to lose a guy in ten days style, they go to a fake couples therapy with Wes where hunter produces like a very rehearsed apology. I mean, some people quibble with this it happened to come off like a very sincere apology. And I don't think Georgia has any reason not to believe it especially considering that they were so close before this incident. Yes. Russia as as you said, it was just a kind of a thing you can get over kind of quickly that as long as he just showed any level over Morris. Like, I mean, there are teammates like they were like not with each other than that, you ultimately gotta go their separate. But at this point, they even if you fake it as even hundreds doing here, maybe Georgia's doing it also they just have to fake it be nice to each other because they need each other. Well, I'm most interested to see. I mean jumping ahead. What happens with hunter? And Georgia now that it's an individual game because hunters in idiot like hundred needs Georgia. I think like anyone with a connection to the UK in an individual game needs to try to hang onto that as much as you can. And hunter on surprising Lee is an idiot. Jimmy, Martin says what's worse, hunters, quote acting like a psychopath or Georgia falling for it. I I mean hundred for sure because if you have to just even just to be nice if someone to go to that level, just be nice. It's on isn't that to be a whole lab? Right. You being social relax with the act. Just be here. Be nice person. It's not that you don't get that much of a Pat on the back. God anybody who says and the Oscar goes to after something that's on MTV, always like or any reality show. It's always getting the IRA of the century for me like I was shade to Kaelin. Appreciate that on this podcast. No, though, we're Kaelin STAN podcasts at least shade, literally everyone. I'm not a Caitlyn STAN I have been on the record on the big brother podcast is not enjoying Caitlyn. Have you hawk stick the other. That's so so you're Caitlyn Sam this is not a Caitlyn Sam podcast. I could be half of the I know you got the other half. We'll work our way back to each other. Eventually all right, guys. I'm going to be a sociopath, and I'm going to mend this huge gap with Brian by pretending to be nice for the rest of my life. So the teen stick together Brian. You know, what you're the best podcasting partner? And I'm so sorry for what I said about not standing Caitlyn. Thanks. I believe every word you're saying it is funny though that this is coming off the heels of like bears fake apology and Georgia like falling for that. So like if she's gonna fall for bears like completely bullshit apology. And I went back, and I watched the clip of her listening in on that call like the fact Ebbers apology made up for that is crazy. But also, I'm sure I've done whereas like, whatever. But of course, Georgia's gonna bar like believe again, a sincere apology over absolutely nothing. When her money's on the line and being a partner anyway, hunters six the dabs of declared Mike christianson says did Georgia actually by hunters act. It seemed obviously transparent on hunters part. And it seemed like they were cutting Georgia's confessionals oddly, but that she didn't actually believe him. But was just being an agreeable partner for the sake of the team. I think she did believe it. But also being part of is probably just being agreeable. Because it doesn't do much good to shoot him down more. If he's lease baking, the try to be nice, he might as well go along with it. But I think in the end she probably they believe it again. Like, what is the problem like it was a drunken fight? Whatever hunter said like I'm gonna stay out of your business. They they have to work together. Who cares? I don't understand why she wouldn't accept his apology. Like, I just I don't understand like why this isn't impressive sociopathic move on hunters part. I don't understand why Georgia shouldn't accept his apology. Like, I just I'm looking at the situation on like nothing happened between them, and they resolved it in the sober light of day. Congratulations to hunter for pulling off the roof of the century. I will like to see west tackle other feuding teams. And even just like you. He's not on the next season. Each comes on be pops on. It's like all right. It's west counseling. Our and all this go in. And try to work through their business. I can I can get on board with that new career path for less. Very interesting. What west later in the show that like okay hunters trying to like challenge channel me with this manipulative move. But like, it's actually not having the result. He thinks it is. I thought that was everything hunters done this season like this sociopath move. Like it's about as imprint like cams scheme to get chosen Dave on in the limitation last season is more oppressive than this again. It's just like who cares? Nothing happened. And you apologize to your partner brilliant. So yeah, I mean, I guess kudos for a west to trick for tricking hunter to find a way to get along with Georgia. Like, that's the real manipulation is hunters. Like, Joe west is like all right. I gotta take this crazy person and get him to be nice to his partner. So I'm gonna tell him. This is a master manipulative move against this woman and you'll look like the king, and you'll know the truth, but you'll work together. Flawlessly and helped me get to the final. You think this hunter Wes duo will continue into another season? Or is this just like because they both had no one else or do you think on another season with a bigger group? They'll stick with each other. I think this is going to continue. I mean part of it is from social media like I've seen them do videos together. But I also think like it's both right. I still don't think west has anyone in a later season. Like, I don't think any combination of people could get cast on the next season and west wouldn't need hunter. Right. I guess it's more swiftly than hunter will stick with Wests. I guess he probably would. I mean, if winters willing, basically to go into an elimination to save Wes who he has almost no connection to let you know. Like, why wouldn't you want to weaponize hunter? I think I think it's probably right. I mean. If the young bucks are there and go because part of it is like, Amanda national. I'm trying to think like if there was ever scenario where it was like full on lavender, ladies and the young bucks. Is there a place for west there with hunter? Or would hunter berry himself into that situation? I'm in I still think hunter chooses west over any of the women that he's ever been aligned with. And Wes is a welcome addition to Corey Nelson's bullshit too. Yeah. I mean, I guess if pushed came the shopping at a choose between the two that's where things can get interesting. But yet in the beginning, I think they would probably stick together. Let's talk about this challenge. Again, not quite monster truck, but close this gave me a major road rules vibes with the skulls on the trucks. I mean on the buses even the name like road warrior kind of like road rules. Almost sounds like it. Did you like this challenge challenge? All. Yeah. I said the partners swinging back and forth having to put up exchange rings back and forth. I think they said they were sixteen total. Yeah. It was good not much strategy to kind of like critique things going just like you there you can use momentum and jump and exchange ring or not is not much critiqued there. But yeah, I found his aiming I couldn't have been more bored by this to the plate ware. Jonathan foreman was over watching this and the fire alarm in my building went off, which then stop this or marching he went home. And I watched like today, and I was you know, not that upset like it was just I always just like, I get it. It was cool. It's always cool to see the like establishing shot to see, you know, everyone walk in TJ there. These like sick trucks at end, it looks death defying. I don't wanna do. It looks insane whatever. But by the third team like I get it. The rings are all getting sixteen West Indies suck you know, they drop a ring here and there and hear the winners. Like, I just I did this did not work for me. By the time. I had to see it. Appreciate them release thick. And this theme of like, you know, the desert were like the war war on the trucks and he's like explosions. I appreciate them going all out with this. And that's cool like that. But then you lose I'm in it. I'm like, oh, cool. Like ooh road rules five. It's like, ooh. Like this excitement and TJ's there. And he knows like you could die a the end. Like, I that's great. And then after like I lost track to like. Okay. Carla Mattie, get sixteen and I was sort of like, okay, everyone seeming to get like sixteen or seventeen what like all the rings lesson de suck. I got that. If it's not air also sucked spending knowing any other takeaways from the challenge. I mean, you might have gotten more out of it than I did before we get into what we need to get into. But I'm to challenges car just being too cynical Kara annoying like young polio. You'll look great in like the harness and then out of absolutely nowhere by complimenting him in bed. It's just like just like we don't need. You don't need to keep. We know. You're in love just like stop stop talking about it. Let's worse this season with them or like all the virgin stuff about Clinton on the bachelor. I'll take the stuff. I don't know. I gotta kick. I like all the twists and turns of that. I was on it. This is if you wanna puke. Yeah. All have different variances of the jokes. I appreciate them. Okay. So I'm glad to hear someone does. So simple minded with my humorous. Thoughts. All right. Let's talk about this west versus day bomb thing. So like a clip of this dropped and then Twitter went crazy, the devil works hard. But I work harder. I was reading all this yesterday before the episode aired and I was like all right. I'm here with my little magnifying glass, and my spy had emoji. Like, I'm ready to watch this and watch Wes totally be wrong based on the tweets. Bertrand. I think there's a little more nuance here than what I originally expected. So have you seen did you like see the feud happening? Now, where's the I want to start with the episode or should we start with the setup of the pre episode Twitter. I sure the pre episode Twitter was just like the back of what we saw the episode. So I guess start with the episode and then kind of circle back. Okay. Well, actually, I asked you an unfair question because like how can you say when you haven't seen the preemptive Twitter? But you're right. I think it makes sense to read it after we talk about it. But what is important is like there was a discrepancy between Dave van and west about what was said, and what would be shown. So they showed the clip west is accusing devan of having said something that didn't make air and the Twitter drama was essentially teed up to say. Well, let's see what happens on the episode. And let's see what aired okay on it. On it. You know, it's funny because I did see a few things of like west racists type thing. And I was like I been catch side at all episodes. So now finally starting to get the backstory behind that. Well, I'll tell you. So what Wes accuses? Wes accused Dave van of saying I'm gonna get my boys from back home to kill you. And that's a west is claiming prompted him to say that you're horrible role mile for your kid. Okay. So the racial aspect. I'll read the tweet is that Dave on is like, I don't speak like that. I've never said, quote, my boys like, of course, because I'm black. You're saying I said that. Okay. So let's get to the Cambridge. Let's talk about what we saw on the TV. And then I'll read the the tweets. I thank you to say here. So basically, all right. So bear is annoying lesson de sock bear screaming calling them losers. Dave on starts bringing up from last week. West told you told someone to put their foot in my face face now, wet says almost inexplicably while someone needed to do that. Because you guys suck it elimination. Really was if they suck it elimination you'll need to put your foot in their face like he just win because they suck. Otherwise, come back. I think it was kind of like reaching for something. And then Dave van says, I'll make sure there's a ne-near ribs and your face when this is over. I go back and while you're twice so better comeback. And then why think that's the most similar thing to what was is claiming like, obviously that is not what west said she said what she does say all arrange her knee into your face after the show. And then west says, wow, you're not a good role model for your daughter. What's your reaction to this? So I mean, it's obvious. And I think the best thing to say. But like a worse thing we've ever heard on this show. And so I. The standard to measure anything against like, it's not even close to what bananas said. So it's fine. No. But it's also not like an grow in the heat of a moment, if you're trying to get under someone skin and you wanna like dig it with them where they hurt the most like that's where west is going to go. So I don't I don't know. I I'm very not at sensitive things that like I don't think being valuable back and was the best thing to say. But like, I I don't know. I think you move on pretty quickly. I mean, look, I'm not I see I thought you were going to say quote bad job by Wes. That's at this as a review from Brian. I hope I would hope for better from west. But like out like again like that. I don't know. He's not a good moment role model for your like if you're if you're like, all right? It's what I know. I'm a guy Ron also screw you. And then like, that's like the end of it. So I don't know on his big brother history blowing up on poly for something similar, and look here's the thing. I mean, you're exactly right. When you say, this is the thing that's going to cut her the worst. I like hope at some point. It's like reminded the Devon banana situation. Like, let's maybe like not reach for the person the thing that's going to like absolutely cut the person the most like, I don't know. I the thing that this is it's lazy. It's like. Okay. So here's a mother who slinging mud like, you are, you know, you're saying shit to her and she saying shit to you and your both threatening physical shit against each other. And and so like all of a sudden because she's a mom she can't be doing that. That's what's annoying. It like okay doesn't west have a kid. Really, he's married. He doesn't have a kid. Maybe doesn't have a kid. Well, like, okay, if west headed kid would he be acting differently or is west never planning to advocate because like you're not a role model either. You know, it just I don't know it just seems like such a low blow and Kana Rita rotas. What did you think of wasn't on situation? I've seen several people bring up the cheese about mom, but people don't say the same thing to people like, Cory. And Brad Cari did say once about Tony one time. And like, that's the point right? Is like, okay. A woman is standing up to you and saying shit that you're saying you're both in the wrong. And then you're like, oh, wow. That like you're a great role model. They've onto your daughter like, what's okay? You know, like I can understand why that would hurt someone who might be sensitive about how they're being portrayed on TV choose away from her daughter people say shit like that all the time her online and in person like, oh, if you're a good mom, you wouldn't come on the challenge and leave your kid, and I just think it's lazy and it's hypocritical. Like. You're saying the same shit with. And I think that's what we see on Twitter like I'll get to the tweets. Like west is so determined to justify that he said that by saying like in the way, you're segment it's not that big of deal is just move on like west squash. It should just be over like, I shouldn't have said that. But she said some shit. I said some shit at like I texted her, and we moved on that kind of thing. But he's now like like being adamant that she said this thing like my boys are going to come kill you. And he claims it wasn't aired. Nobody is that I've seen is verifying that he said that she said that. And it's like all right. Just drop it like she didn't say she said something threatening. He also said someone needs to put a foot in your face. You know, like, the just just stop it. All right. So here's the stuff about the so. Yeah, I said Wes, Ed Dave on I'm gonna get my boys from back home to kill you west had. Wow, you're horrible role model for your kid internet somehow split as to who is wrong. Facebook emoji F why she apologized to me. I have moved on I appreciated her knowledge ING when she acted like a bad role model like clap emoji. And this is like, no, you're just perpetuating. It was and it's annoying. So. So somebody wrote a rule said a ta this Senate, we've never heard her say, she's gonna get someone home to kill you in that clip. Apologize pleasing. Thanks, Wes said you don't hear it. Because what she said is too violent to air on TV and kind of a legal like I've said, I've moved on and have decided not to press charges. I already received my heartfelt apology and think most of the time she's a magnificent role model to her child. And this is where he loses me. So maybe I was tainted by looking at this. And then watching the show day bonds and your damn liar point and less than fine. I guess I take back the role model comment shrug emoji. And then. She said Dave on said, that's why some of these people don't like me. I'm not afraid to stand up to none of them. I'm not kissing anybody's ass. I don't care how many seasons you've done what you've won. If you ain't shit as a human all of those winds means nothing and somebody tweeted at D like honestly did this. What did Dave on say? And she says, I honestly can't remember I was there when they were arguing I always have my partner's back. And there's one thing that I will bet on is that west is not a liar, regardless things are said when we're heated an angry. I don't think we should dwell on it. So to me that no Dave onto nuts. Throw my partner under the bus. I don't remember Cleese. So then Dave on said, really, you know, damn well, I didn't say that to him. If I did then why when we talk to you kept apologizing for what he said to me, and how you don't stand by the things he said to me and honestly west this thing of like, they wouldn't air it. That's just as violent as what was aired like they would air that. This is such a weird hill for west at dia like just let this go. Even if you're right is a losing battle just drop it. And then Dave on sudden quotes decided not to press charges. I dot dot dot whole ass. Clown found emoji give shack laughing and then she said, quote, my boys. I don't even talk like that a million laugh Grimaud. Jeez. Listen, y'all know me, and if I would have said that I would have admitted it. And then she said, oh, wow. You really are trash Esam age. I thought you were just like this is the game. I didn't know you were literally garbage is a human quote, my boys. LL SMH the footage is out. They've seen. Exactly what I said to you. And then. Ah? Yes. So then she said L O L he's digging. Bayer whole talking about quote, my boys. What hood movie did he watch and try to attach me to laugh cry emojis? If you don't get on if you don't get on somewhere. And then she said this killed me in response to d. How the hell, you know, everything about shea lean. But can't remember an argument that you were a part of throw the whole brain away. And d said, I'm not saying that what he said was right? I just said I can't remember if you said what you did to him. Neither of you guys are right in the situation. But I do have my partner's back like how you have bears. A closed mouth. I raise emoji Iberia's mode. Yeah. Dave said you're going to stand firm on this quote. I can't remember bullshit knowing we're going to see the footage tonight. And some have already saw what I said you were right there. You can't remember everything bare said did word for you. Can remember everything bare said did word for word? But you can't remember this and said definitely going to stand firm. I can't remember Jesus put it to bed and let's play the tape tonight's emoji. And then some listeners said it's easy to remember something that wasn't set. And then after the episode Dave on tweeted when you never said the words, quote, my boys or quote, kill moneybag emoji kid dancing on the chair gifts. And then this is ridiculous. West tweeted screen cabs of Dave on Twitter. And she he said this is what they call a pattern of violent threats to cast members outside of the game. An exactly what she did to me in. But in person when someone talks like this to someone you're allowed to say, whatever you want back. That's just the rules of life, and it's screen CAP's. Dave on responded a screen caps with the day removed those his eight minutes seven minutes ago. And she said all I'm gonna say is I've talked so many people out of showing up at that reunion to kick his ass. Nobody knows who my relatives are. So unless they declined every black man from coming, my male cousins will be present. Let me see how many pitches you call them. Shrug emoji since you're too proud of your behavior. I'm going to allow you to really go ahead. Go head up with some men. He bought that Eggy chair, and Dave aren't said SMH those. Green shots are from October and were directed to Shane the profile picture isn't even the same. How stupid can people be? So again, like west just enough not. I mean, the fact that she did say that someone is not like I mean, she said she would never say something like that. And she did say something like that. Yeah. I mean, well, I think what she was saying is I never spoke like my boys that kind of thing. So, but I don't think I would never like say that threaten them and she did like six months ago. So that's not the best look. Yeah. And like, I just kind of think it's like west said something that she said something bad. We don't need to like go put Dave on on trial. Because you said something you shouldn't have said, and she said something you shouldn't have set against you just be over. Honestly, this is like one of the stupidest arguments. I've I've stand as I take it on this my legs like everyone sees the move on like this is like such a deep like he said, she said like like nothingness like who cares? I can't believe their ultimate taking this as personal. Speaking of who cares. Let's talk about the tribunal. Yeah. I guess we should tell the. The three winners we got. And he's like we surprised by the big three. No. Again, I was carrying all that the judge right? Kyle Mattie hundred Georgia and. Our MP. Oh, the as a third. Yeah. I would so weird to me is like the way the vote happened and the voting strategy. This episode is one of the most puzzling votes. We've had all season. So what they didn't make super clear, which I kind of forgot insult like kind of all the dust settled is there was really only four teams pick from. So there really weren't that many options built into it. So it wasn't that much of a full on deliberations. There was just one team that wasn't gonna be picked. Say that again. So there was all there's only four teams to pick but slept three from. So like they're like going around who who were going to pick who you're gonna pick. It was only very few options even pick. Right. Exactly. And I think that's what's interesting about like we've talked before that if you have the relics do throw the challenge like. No. But still interesting when the person with the relic doesn't win and then it knocks out another four teams are not eligible. Yeah. I'm kind of like the perfect scenario. Whether it was like as we'll see in the next week. There's no more teams. But this the last week with the fewest amount of possible teams to be Josan from our. But are we still okay? And it's like hunter picking turbo in Noni when you're down to this this view. And then let's talk about this strategy that hunter was willing to tie it up rather than vote in Pauline Natalie like to me with this tribunal. I was stunned that the vote wasn't going to automatically. Go to Holly ninja is so hundred choosing turbo non is his vote. I don't have much of a problem with. But then him willing to sacrifice his game. Because he didn't want to make a decision was just mind boggling. Yeah. I don't I don't get it. And then I'm also sort of like, why is west letting this happen like in a way, we think west completely controls hunter? But like there's no way that this was west is preferred outcome of this happening in less. It truly was and I don't give hunter enough credit for this. Like, it truly was like knowing that Georgia would crack and throwing your partner under the bus. And then it also goes to the question of do they know are they anticipated that they're going to split up because nobody seemed that surprised, and why would you want your partner to take the blame over you? If you weren't completely anticipating that this was going to become an individual game. That's like the more interesting part because I don't know what they would have gotten any sort of sense that it would split up because I mean in most seasons where your pear with arrival or an next echoes to the end like it's very rare unless his laid out like in free agents from the beginning where you're going to be bouncing between teams. And then the vigil and stuff. So I I would be surprised if they sense this because I don't know why they would. Yeah. I forget what we talked about last week that like two weeks ago. I don't even know that gave an indication to me that they also thought this would be individual. Maybe it is the individual voting. That tip them. All. What's the significance of that? That doesn't come back to bite. You. I don't know. I'm confused at why hunter is willing to go to rocks for all of these people. I think at some point like I'm not used to hunter playing scared and yell at me with hunters retrospective. I don't care, but like to me hunters somebody who's like willing to make enemies. So the fact that he's he would rather go into an elimination against a good competitor. Because his choices are all good competitors. I mean, he was I guess manning to go against Ashley in D nationally and Cam. But you'd rather do that in what you can see is a puzzle challenge. That then you would make an making an enemy of paulie and enjo- who you have the ultimate meet chilled in Kyle because police still going to be angrier at Kyle than you. Outfield. Timid shield of like, I have the my number one in west and the person I'm hooking up with in ninety. So I can't I just can't say either them. So I'm just forced to say, you that's like the ultimate like, I just had to do it scenario and Paul he's not offering him anything. It's not like we see a conversation where Polly's like look hunter. Like, I know you're with west. But like, look I have Kara I could have your back. I've been winning these challenges like we don't see any appeal. It's just like hunters plan completely scared. But in a weird way, he's also playing stupidly brave like he's like willing to go in. I was almost a little upset that Georgia cracked, and maybe we're not giving him enough credit because he wouldn't he knew Georgia would crack if that was truly has goal. But. I'm not in that case. It's kind of brilliant. Right. You don't crack your partner cracks, and you know, it's going to be an individual game best case scenario for hunter. Although nobody buys it. Right. Everyone's still knows his alliances. Everybody's still knows. He's not more loyal to Paul than he is to west whatever. Just the. I don't know. I just got myself in a twist here. But I don't see good for Georgia for like being like, no, I'm not gonna immediate like my partner. I'm going to do. I even though may about the by me, I'm gonna be smart one and save our team. So I'm going to guess I'll take one for the team and hopefully people see through hunter for the cowardice that he's being. But that's I'm a little disappointed. It didn't go to a tie because I think that would have been more interesting. I think I really wanna know what would have happened. And I think it would have been amazing. If it was another Zach, Amanda, situation and hunter and Georgia went home over it. Right. Yeah. It would've especially because it's the probably the last chance we're going to see what would happen is going to individuals. So we probably will will never know now because hundred is going to take credit for playing George into this and now partners, but I did love like the lengthy montage of everybody saying how stupid juris. Yeah. That was very enjoyable. Okay. So let's talk about the hearing. I actually thought this was the best hearing we've had in. Maybe it's a product of not having a night out or not really having much happened in the episode. But this is kind of what I wanted to hearing to be like, we get some information. We get directed questions. And nobody like throws a temper temper tantrum. All led by feel. I think I think he was the driving force even before anyone walked in. He was like on a mission the out everyone's number one. I think I would have been nice almost how professional from him being guide. And that's what I'm gonna really try to get information out of people. I wanna see where everyone stands because he had he had a point. That has basically everyone that walked in there. Like who's your number one? Yeah. And I mean, I think and then he was using that information when the other people came in like, okay, Pauly, less said hunters is number one. So what do you think about that? Like I impressed with you here. And I think this is sort of he was a strategist on love island when that show frowns against strategizing. So this is sort of Theo's better than you that forum here, and I think I was really impressed by him. Oh, so yeah. No surprise answers, though. I mean reapprise that west cops to one hundred being his number one. It doesn't sort of beat around the Bush or is that kind of the right move for him to do at this point. That kind of fits west. He he's good at being honest, where it will be it will be clear that he's lying, and then he holds stuff back where it can be detrimental to tell the truth. So everyone knows he's with honors. So you might as well say that and then hold everything else back. Yeah. I think in this case, I think it was to your point like it would have been really obvious that he was lying. But also like we do get a little snippet of him saying, okay? I think hunter might be the swing vote and hunter appreciates loyalty, and this is a direct appeal to hunter to say in front of everyone. You're my number one. And again, we see paulie and Kyle having fun with their tension and Kara not, of course, is cars there as the ultimate buzzkill. Dammit. And the non and enjoy me nothing super nude nude report there. No, not really not not an interim sorry on the entire bow. Well. We need to talk about the. Old guard new guard head to head matchup in this conversation battle of wits between Wes and Polly. Yes. So this was this is an affiliate. They're both trying to use a little bit like reverse psychology on each other. And then like baby, paulie just didn't understand that. Because I think that's kind of where Wes was going for. But I don't think it's paulie, I don't know. It was very odd the way west was pitching himself. Well, I Polly said it, and then west repeated it which was weird. And then west also at a tweet I didn't pull because it annoyed me like he's now so sort of taking credit like party is the one who said look, I know nothing to lose. If I lose to you. I'm fine with that. And if I beat you, that's awesome. And then west is like, yeah, I'm a trophy. I'm an instant resume. That's a tweet it like, right? I don't know why it was weird that he like agreed with it. I feel like that's something you really know. Like, you should want me on your side. Like Paul is making the pitch like why should they an it's weird that Wes would add to the pitch like like, you should be like, no that's not the case, and you should do. XYZ? Well, I think Wes it. So I was really impressed with paulie here because I thought this would have been affective as like, you don't wanna see you don't want me sent to the killing floor because I am no qualms a no hesitations of getting you out because I'm not even afraid to lose to you. Like, I think that a powerful pitch from Polly's as pretty impressed with that. I think west is best response. Like you were saying before sort of like west can't really pitch himself. The paulie here like they clearly haven't been working together. And now the sudden when his backs against the wall, he's like look man like we could work something out. Like, I I don't know that that's going to work. I think Wes while it's strange. I think is best play is to just. Appear. Intimidating like hope molly's bluffing. And like call the bluff and be like. Yeah. I am a trophy. And I'm a legend for reason. Like, you know, like, I'm not afraid in me, not being afraid I intimidate you into being afraid or maybe west D was like, look, I'm working on ninja and ninjas not gonna put us in. So maybe he's just like I'm not going to rock the boat. Any further out say that was the place. It wasn't anything that west could or could not do it was. And I think the d clearly kept them out of that elimination ninjas stood around in voting. And that's why they stayed out. It was in state. It was one hundred percent the an NGO, and I was pretty pissed because the whole episode was very much like especially with western D N engine. Paulie, a lot of the conversation is like poly and west and then oh their partners who are seen and not heard, you know, it's just like and they vote like that. They're like I'm going to support my partner. No matter what. And that's like Dion Twitter. So I was really happy to see like their relations. Chip explained ninja really go to bat for what was best for her. Which then I think she gets rewarded for in the fact that now it's an individual game. And that's probably the first time she really spoke up against Bali. And she picked the the right. The perfect time to do it and really stood their ground. Then they both pay dividends. Should Noni have done more. We see Noni say to Coyote hunters sort of like look you play your game. Do what you gotta do. And that's really it. Should she have worked harder? I don't know it's more. So like, why would it ninety just go to hunter? And Billy like, all right. You find your you wanted to vote for me. I get that. But then like when it comes down to the vote like you should go after all like, you should shouldn't be sacrificing yourself for me. Like you see the team that should be going in there. Like, that's almost where the Noni could knock some sense in the hunter. Yeah. I mean, I do like this. The quote, we get from Noni of like, I don't want to be dependent on hunter. Like, I wonder if non as self colleges about her reputation for sort of like being with bananas or be like being not carried because I think Noni has a reputation of her own, but I mean, it's like the groin. Yeah. Like, I think like Noni is known as a competitor. But she's also known as somebody who like gets in relationships with with physical players, whatever. And my maybe she's more like a concerned about that not wanting to come off reliant on hunter. Also, knowing hunters complete crazy person not wanting to catch her grow to him. But in the game so to speak. So maybe she was just sort of like do what you gotta do and win my way out or or maybe she knows hunter can't be told shit, especially not by woman, and it's wouldn't be helpful to say anything to him because he's crazy and let him go home. Sure. That's always the case. All right. So when we get to the killing floor, and we see this setup. My first reaction was like okay Cam. And Ashley have to be the people you want to go against. And what's interesting is they're the ones not getting any play or talk about who like that. They would go in. Well, we didn't get a lot of the only talk about who would be voted and was just Paula going after west. There was no real other talk amounts and the other others hearts, right? Like, I don't think there any other targets even talk about. Options. It would be you could vote you can vote any of the other three right? Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. But I think like for an episode especially that Cam. And Ashley go home on we got very little time with them. Besides like, I think Ashley or Cam said like, okay. Just because we're not nominated doesn't mean we can go in. Okay. Right. But I, but I saw this in my first reaction was like the only team I'd wanna face who's left in this is Cam. And ashley. Yeah. And again, actually, there really aren't even have anything to choose from go in the three tribunal bears safe or on teams in only three teams even pick from so. Yeah. So once again, the options were. And then I was like hunter cannot come in and see this and say, yeah, Georgia, and I are going to win this one. Let's volunteer like this hunter and Georgia would've lost this challenge. So quickly. It's not even funny. Yeah. I mean, there's no elimination that you should see ever. And be like, all right. I'm going to go into this. Because you just never know you never know for sure. But certainly not this one if you're hundred Georgia, right? Let's talk about the way the vote where and I mean, I guess we it doesn't really matter who voted for whom. But what was surprising to me is when they do the re-vote Georgia sitting there and says I really care about everyone car has care about yourself, which would then prompt her to flip to police so dicara persuade her to vote paulie in little car. Maybe cards just wants to like an all female empowerment, stick up yourself thing. I think maybe that's what she's going with. And then I guess Paul was collateral damage that was odd. I mean, the only person she could've voted for to save it from going to a tie is Holly. Yeah. So it was very bizarre because it was too poly in Asia. And then a split between Kara and the right? And then. Receive owed on for maybe they both. Yeah. Because the overdue for Diene west and Kara voted for non-interest. She did any meeting money. Turbo. Right. Yeah. And then it pissed me off that he was like oh Georgia's emotionally week. It's like hunter can't even make a decision like there's nothing weaker than going to a tie because you're too afraid to ruffle feathers. And in that sense, you burn all of your bridges. So one hundred thanks being nice is a sociopath smart is is emotionally weak. And that's really all you need to know about shit. Paulie had intervened here like ship. Paulie have said when it became a tie like all go in. No. I mean, I'm saying I'm surprised he he did it. I'll say maybe if Kyle could have been the target. He would be like all right. Let me go in and take Kyle out. But maybe because Kyle wasn't an option and he will try to like scape by again. Yeah. Maybe I did like Kyle try to be like poly should us. Go in here. This looks like you could win it. Without car. I do enjoy their like banter with each other with car. It's very dark and depressing. Also, no never mind. Yeah. I was just gonna say hunt carrot cars had voting for non turbos the only way to save Hawley. But that wasn't true. But that is true. So I'm glad that I thought the wrong thing. And then set it I don't know I needed to explain. All right. Are you surprised that ninja was able to win out here with paulie in the decision? And also how much did you have to do with the fact that Ashley and Cam were probably the easier beating the challenge anyway. Yeah. I think probably well. I mean, I definitely think paulie respects ninja like I think she respects her like earth thought. So I don't think he was going to all those or no matter what. And I think it just like her points made sense. I think that was out of the way to go. Anyway. So I made it even easier. So what did you think of the challenge wheel of death? Yeah. Certainly fit. I mean, similar it's like we really doing the whole like spinning around thing and elimination. So that last year with Janna being tossed around like a bowling ball? So yeah, I liked it. I I enjoy mixing things up on the and everything that'd be a head banger. I like things that cater to different strengths and weaknesses. So. Yeah, I was fine. I don't need to see the zoom in camp throwing up all over south out. I could have probably done without but other than that Natalie thing. Go bills Natalie Johnson. I like I was like I want to interrupt you because I don't care like you could say whatever you want to be like. Yeah. That was definitely I'll mess season. But. It was going to be okay. Yeah. I liked this challenge. Although it completely only relied on one person. Like, I love that like. Yeah. Okay. Like, it seemed like Ashley ninja executed at a similar level. And like it completely relied on the person on the wheel. David wisher says has anyone ever TV barked with as much as Kim? I did remind me of Cheyenne's Q on are you the one like I loved watching Cam throw. But it was so it's like I thought it was so cool watching it and like not watching her. But being like excuse me, the continuing to go like, that's amazing. If she was that sick. Like what if I've been that nauseous, and that dizzy, like the fact that she came so close I thought that was a legendary moment for Cam, even even though Jalen. Yeah. I think this is almost better performance Osama for wins. Like she comes out like a way, and then like doesn't like do much or an easy win. And she's like, you know, touting that killer, camping this was very impressive. I mean, they they missed it. By one piece, I got all one piece was kind of like on the wrong way. So it was like they had dominated by shrubs. So yeah, this is an impressive loss for Cam. Jeffrey Goldstein said did they try to trick us by really talking about paalea tons? So we'd think your car, we're going home. No. I don't think NC doesn't really do that. I think I mean, I guess there's some viewership pop. I mean, if any we've got the viewership up in the beginning with Cam talking about what to do with the money, and then we see here not got the money. And then Jeremy Barton said should I feel shitty for rooting for Pauline Nadal, India, limitations? No, I like Bali I very much enjoy him on the show. And I'm hoping he's a mainstay for many years. I mean, I would say you should feel shitty. Because it keeps the car Kyle Polly thing, although Polly leaving. I don't think would improve the situation team car in Kyle. I think car or Kyle have to leave the guy. So you shouldn't feel shitty. But I did feel bad for Cam. Like, I really wasn't rooting for either team. I was fine with both of them. I would've liked both teams to stay. So you can root for whoever you, oh, I'm fine. A team went home. One of them went home. Sorry. I would there other people. I would have rather gone home. I wouldn't have. And then we don't have anyone go home. But I under- in Georgia gone home. I would have rather Kara or Kyle and Matty, but more car and Zeo. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean at this point people gotta go. You could root for almost anyone not bear, Barron. Dave on you can't report. Perfect Yvonne solo now. Yeah. So they get the solo announced in every man for themselves. A little like bless like there was no pop and circumstance here for this. Big twist. Yeah. I think you're right. I feel like they I don't know maybe it producer. Let it slip by accidentally. This should be like a huge huge shift in a game. I mean, there's what seven teams those fourteen people have. Yeah. I don't know. That's there were actually it was kind of weird. I mean, they got like go nuts when they find out that going to like Switzerland, though, I'm like a trip or something like that. So the find out this and like, okay, cool. Let's do it. It was kind of weird. Yeah. I mean, I wonder if they knew going in like if some of the vets were like, I don't wanna be like a pair team. I want to do individual. And they were like it's going to be. I don't know. Like, I don't know how any of this works. If anyone knows let me know because I feel like they had to have known, but even for the production side for the viewer like this should of this is the last relic. Oh, and by the way, it's also everybody for them like the last that got more hype than the fact that this would be individual. And then we get the prize money at this point in sort of like the money doesn't really matter to me. I mean the. Breakdown is seven hundred fifty thousand for first place. Second place two hundred K third place gets fifty I don't know that that impacts anything that much. I think it's it gets more important when it's like first place gets money. Nobody else gets anything. Yeah. I just I'm I'm kind of I'm kind of over the the single-sex winner elimination. Final. I kind of would rather than split it up and like have a final just be like whatever they do and not have to eat like even at out or cater. Anyway, just I'd rather just be like three three mandatory women in the final and just go from there. Yeah. I'm interested to see the final because I think for a few seasons. Now, the finals been sort of broken, and it seems like the challenge has really been improving. And like, I think this season has been a return to at least the format we like and like in terms of the episodes amount of episodes. I wonder if anything's changing for the final to make it more. Return to form or just improved. But maybe doesn't seem that way based on this. I agree with what you're saying. Fully push on says, why can't they just have duo so nonintervention win together. I don't want another stupid puzzle. Deciding the winner of the season. Yeah. Honestly, I kind of wish they just keep the pairs. I think the pairs that that dynamic it's it's a big part of the season that it's kind of weird the split them up. Now, I I would rather than just keep the person the end. I mean, I would have I don't mind them. Splitting them up. But I'd like them to go back together. Like, I wish the elimination where they were going to rearrange the pairs had paid off. Like, I wish there was more pair switching that'd be cool. Give right now, they re drafted or something like that. That would be cool to me. Yeah. Even do like another like how this already do a challenge. And then like you pair them up based on their finish. I'm going to draft us. How you finish your paired up that would be kind of cool. Yeah. I just I don't like them go individual here. I just think that kind of like the a certain game. I don't like them up Charles's lot things. I don't like. So all right. So we we have sub questions looking a little bit down the road Tyler Morton Priebus as who suffers the most from the team, splits and Nathan Miller says who has helped the most by it. And then all of question. Sorry, Felipe ish on said, can you order the people who'd most like to see win and who you see win. So let's just let's go down the line. Let's talk about the payers who benefits who suffers. And are you rooting for them? So it's funny. You mentioned that the you how strong the these said the UK still like really strong. I actually think this hurts them the most because I think there's not that many individuals of them in the game. There was just there each part of a team. And now that they're all split up. I think the UK is very hurt by this. Let's look I'm trying to look and we compete a-. I wanna see the order. They finished the order. They drafted. Because I'd like to remember who finished in what order like, how strong the UK people were at least the first challenge. Because we don't really know how well they're going to do without their partners. I mean, there's probably a huge liability for their team. Now that he's not with Dave on because Dave on was close with Paul, you know, like some people at least cared about. Well, Dave on really saved him from both elimination. So now on his own. I think he's easily beat by everybody left. I mean, you K is really just Baird Georgia. Theo right now that Ashley has gone. Yeah. Yeah. So I think there there were like I mean, they had they were four they could have been four the seven teams that they've actually won the Cup teams together. Now, they're three of the fourteen individuals. So that's like a gigantic change in their power. Is that not better for them? Because now, they're not such an obvious target. Like, okay. I think there's still some of the individuals like now maybe bear while he's a norm. And I still think he's gonna be targeted. But while he's annoying. He's probably the least athletic person left in the game. But he's still. So hated that he's going to be me. But like if he wasn't so hated like he's less of a target physically without Dave on than he was with her. She was saying like now now he's only three people. We don't need to be so worried about them, and let's start looking at athletic individuals. Now Theo's a bigger target, right? Like. Ninja like maybe cars in a start going after ninja because she's a tough female competitor. And she's no longer tach to paulie like their other bigger fish to fry potentially than just the UK block. So agree. Their powers weakened. But maybe because they're not as big of a threat of block anymore. They might fall under the radar be bear. I go again for sure but like. I'm curious where the people who were paired with the UK go like, I guess like, obviously a in hunter will stick the other. Where do they like where they're pairs go. Like where does this Georgia's stick with their who to who they bring in? I'm curious banal all the people who are with the UK. They've on like what does she do show sushi's not going to stick with bare? So where does she fit in all the other? Pockets, I hesitate besides Georgia at hunters really besides hunter, I don't know that anybody's really gonna want to go after their partner. I could see ninja following more injured d a relationship with western d but it's like seems like d has been so blindly loyal to west and is probably suffering from like a first time player wanting to follow the veteran player, and where else is she really going to go. So I can BBC ninja going in with them. But I don't see her voting. Pauline. Yeah. I wouldn't I wouldn't think. So I mean, I guess I guess we'll have to see how the voting goes. But I soon they'll be to eliminate episode would be my guess, and then maybe everyone votes. I mean, even we still know exactly how the voting will go. So yeah, it's still a lot of uncertainties about how even now to the back after the season's gonna go. But let's just go really quickly through the payers, say better or worse off. So THEO in Kara. I'll say feel worse car better. I think sort of neutral, THEO probably worse card neutral. What are you? Because I because I don't know that they wouldn't vote car like that. She's I think she's kind of lost. At least the u k votes like nobody really hears about her. I don't know. And then are you rooting for either them? I think I feel you. I'm going to warm up the field Kara, I can do that gave on in bear and think universally works for better for Dave on yet. Definitely. I mean, I guess you probably couldn't get worse for Barry's always target. So I guess maybe Dutreuil, honestly, he will now be Omosanya the threat, and then Dave auntie. I think better to not be better. Not be it. That's the there. And then you rooting when we're not reading for Barry. We're in for Dave on. Not strongly. But sure I'm rooting for on. I'd love Dave on win. D N, Wes. I would say better for d probably about the same for Wes, I'm burning for both of them. See I think better for west because I think anytime west gets more room to play. It's better for him. Like, I can turn people away from the partner is it could be west. I think probably neutral the good for de. Although I don't think she's going to maximize any good. I think she's still going to play like west as partner, right, Georgia and hunter. Yes. I guess I mean, I guess worse for Georgia. Probably worse for hunter for both. I do really bad. I think it's probably the worst overall for Georgia because I think without hunter like size-wise her against any of these women left is rough and she's going to be instantly betrayed by hunter. Like, she doesn't even have like a connection with him. We're at least he couldn't go again actively against her when he was tied to her. And then hunter I. Were serious persona because ever a hate him as an individual. But neutral, why should mart? Mattie end Kyle. We haven't talked a lot about them. Yeah. I think I think neutral for both by the and they're both in good shape. Yeah. I think this is fine for both of them. I loved how Kyle was like shoot I was hiding behind. Matty, like nobody wanted to go against Manny. I mean, Mattie must be huge in a way. That's not shown on TV. You know, like, I don't know that it's really coming across may because Kyle so tall that when they send each other. It's like not as impactful like Mattia standing next to the to turbo someone take a screen cap. So I can bear. Yeah. I think same same as you. And and I'm rooting for them. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm ready for Mattie. I in for Kyle. And then non inter I think worse for us. Yeah. I think it worse only because they weren't such a good spot. So I don't know any type of shakeup to be better. So I guess I'll go worse for both and definitely room for both. And then an engine Polly kind of talked about. So it should be interesting to see how it shakes out. And do you have a prospect of the week? Yeah. I'll go with I'll go, and then I think, you know, she started ground with with paulie got her way got the correct decision. And even though Paula was like the leader of the elimination. Spill it what you need to do in one. It's tough because an injury really annoyed me in the beginning like of this episode with car complaints. But I guess you know, what actually I'm gonna give it to you. I think he strategic lighting ninjas a close second. Right. She got the outcome. She wanted workout. So not not to knock your. But I really did like how THEO made good TV and good. Good TV with the hearing. And also got some good information. So I'll give it to you. All right. Oh, I don't know that I have a drinking game. We don't have that. There were a few this week three earn votes tribunals voting Padro partners running differently, which now I guess we'll go away to flashbacks to earlier in the season noticed us. That's like not that. That was a lot. Seventeen subtitles and five flags at half mast and one of Jeremy's the special effects with turbo. And everybody loved Jeremy came up a lot in the five serve us. Like, don't worry everyone like we will invite Jeremy back. He was great. Also Kyle Picard killed me. Our chief party officer in response week. We have not declared a punishment. If anybody has any suggestions for when we get a discount. I'm sorry. What were the two that we struck that? He struck. Let me look back was was was. We'll be kept date night. And we kept food fight and is colored booze. And so imagine is social media which one the we. We kept discolored. Okay. So there's a food fight or elements in their social media Kyle. It's hard invested in a public square. Okay. So if anybody has a suggestion of a drinking game punishment, let us know. Yeah. I mean, I wanted to do something like whenever I don't know if that's going to happen though. But I want to project something into the individual game. Like whenever we could workshop this whenever somebody like celebrates how good it is for their game that they're now an individual, you know, maybe it's like whenever whenever someone like rips on their old team mate or something like that. Like how ninja was like I'm so excited. Then God, I don't have to deal with paulie shit. Yeah. And then even once or if you want to do so on votes for their old partner to go into a nation is somebody votes their old partner in and not as like a burn vote Belykh or as vote you wanna do anyone if they vote for them in any any particular reason, finish your drink? Two drinks. Like, that's that's a big movement. That'd be great. Okay. So is that yours or did you have another one? I was I was I was always worked workshop on the fly. I agree with you look forecast out. So I like individual type thing. So I'll do that one. Then. All right. So then. Yeah. Anytime somebody like talk shit about their partner, and I in any capacity, but I really mean it like an engine did about poly. But I think that could be good because we're get hunter in Georgia. So Berindei bond that could be a lot of drinks. There we go. All right. Let's run through the five star reviews. Thank you guys so much for leaving us, so many and a lot of them shared, a, Jeremy, which is awesome. He definitely deserved it. So swag. Waffle megs five one four vase nine hundred ninety eight looks look it's Evan d God sixty three Johnny the underscore. Thank you guys so much. We really really appreciate the support. If you want to show support yourself you go to Rabat's website dot com slash challenge. I tunes. We really really appreciate it keeps us go and over here. Before we get to social media. We have some old business Jay care of old slash new business. So. Yeah. I remember when we had everyone tweet at Akiva. And then I was like psych akitas banned from the podcast. Akiva, did not take that lying down. He'll I mean, some people have to be like who's Akiva who cares now? I'm just kidding. He was a great podcast or who can be heard weekly on Robin, Akiva needed podcast and on his own show. Thirty two fans, so he like two hours deep into Rene up. Launched his own plea to get people to tweet at me to unbanned him. And I think we got more tweets saying to get him on the show. But I told the kiva that's providence of criticism of us than it is on him at like people listen to his show or like who are these people? We don't need to tweet at them. I don't listen. But rob. So I'm explaining this because Brian needs something explained. Rob mention I forget, the I wish I had gone back and listen to it to get the full the full thing. But kiva was talking about me and the challenge podcast, and Brian rob was like and Brian Cohen. And it was like, well, I don't know if Brian has banned me like this is Brian to and so I treat it out. Like Ryan is aware of if if if not condones like, I'm not gonna put you in this too. But Brian has always aware of my arbitrary secret bands of which there are many, and they're very petty, maybe arbitrary were their petty. And and then I also added that Brian will certainly need this tweet explained. Because there's no way he is Eddie frigate idea. What we're talking about mope just most off right right before right before. Yeah. So I can't keep on and then rob TEK semi because I am reluctantly agreeing to go on this weakens history quiz. My fischel position is I'm unhappy about it. But rob knows I don't say not him. So here we are. That'll be April look forward to that. But he also added like and by the way, like unbanned, Akiva. And I was like Akiva like, you told dad on me, whatever. Many bands. And I intend to keep them to myself. So I don't have to lift them when I don't want to give I mean, it's hard to to coordinate a show at three people. It is it is usually one of us is out. We haven't been out yet. So you don't strong what finals, but I also like I don't love three person podcast because then I don't get to save everything. I want to say. Of course, they can't have. But Akiva, Akiva was like, well, let's go on like the BNB together and like squash this, and I was like why would I give that ratings goal? Monto the BNB like we're going to wash. It you go on my show. We don't I'm not going to be a guest two guests. And then I also said if you think that I would waste a guest appearance by sharing the time. You're crazy. You don't know gonna coming on? And then further splitting my guest appearance. So keeping we'll come on at some point. Although he's an Israel. So what a time difference scheduling on that. If you on banning, I'll I'll drop the hammer. I'll I'll rebate. Tabet? That's happened Ivan banned him Brian has now issued his first then this is my seventh. Ben at least. I have a bad. I I've been banned from other people. I just haven't done the banning almost everyone is banned like me. But keep me band. A little I guess, maybe Brandeis medic reasons Ryan you're holding against him. He's an Israel. No. If you want to be on the record for saying that. That was the final enough. I'll now McCall timezone issue though. Yeah. We can't have that. All right. So kiva as band if anybody's still listening to this and wants to tweet Akiva that he's been re band that'll put him into tizzy and it'll be receivable their us. Yeah. About how about that? Alright. So a couple of things from social media. Thank you to a digital communications manager Meghan Elizabeth light week this week. Besides the heavy heaviness that was deed on well. Car said we owe. So this I kind of agree with car. The challenge tweeted Feo could practically reach out and grab the rings from car without either of them jumping laugh cry emoji and car said, wait. Why did I waste all that energy skills? Hush talents. Endurance and leaping. My ass off to reach him. Every damn time to the full length of the rope. When I literally just stood there and do nothing, dammit Karawan shot up car. It was a joke. That I mean. Show. Sure that I like it is kind of annoying because car like, here's the thing. And she deserves it most of the time but car never gets her do doing what credit or just. He's so unless all that like when she does good. We don't even talk about how athletic and great car is anymore because it's just she's so annoying. Yes. That's the problem. I enjoy when she brought up like all of that. We got more money when I won this last time, I'll just have to do it again like that that's the side of car. Actually, I like like when she's confident in her abilities. Not like the all the other crap that goes around with her. Well, she's confident in her skill energy town and endurance. Yeah. And this joke, and this is just a nice note of female friendship, D said our friendship didn't get much screen time. But I credit my sanity ninja you don't get to see the meaningful combos last genuine care. We have for each other. This is why we will always have each other's back and Natalie responded, how many times did we shed tears or on the pool. Table of. Heartbreak laughter and scheming. I was just went bear jumped on top of. That's it. But remember, please tweet that Brian has re band, Akiva. I really I need more than I needed the last tweets, please, I've tried to do this. When. To find like a cool gift shift of the Seinfeld clip of grocery store person banning Jerry's. So anyone could do that? And put it up out of really appreciate it. I'm dying you saying gift, Jeff, you just give it up. It's like that app that lets you put people's faces on God. I see. Is giving up. I just couldn't between the pronunciation. Bab to say everything tomato tomato. I say it all covera-. Oh, man. All right. Episode ten next week. It can follow me on Twitter echo. And Brennan score. The follow you at last fates till next time avid, go on. The. No an ad from dad. All right. 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MTV Reality RHAPup | The War of the Worlds Episode 15 Recap Podcast

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MTV Reality RHAPup | The War of the Worlds Episode 15 Recap Podcast

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I'm so excited to back on this episode. I'm thrilled. I'm excited. Great, great to have you back. You know, took the three weeks off and they came smashing right in the face with the hardest final that there's ever been done. And we only got half of it. So who I wonder how many of us are gonna die along the way because they already died, we got to, to our AP's or so we'll say, I wanna thank first you, Brian, and then also the three amazing subs, Haley will and Jonathan reverse order, not avoid of my thanks in order their appearances. Really, really really appreciate it. And I also wanna thank the hundreds normally joke about how listeners we have, but truly hundreds of people who reached out who congratulate man Twitter, who supported me during a. Yeah. I tend to go to Twitter during my darkest days of finals and once on tweeting too much you're like maybe she's struggling. So I really appreciate it. All the kind words of support was really heartwarming really amazing and made me really excited to be able to get back to sitting behind the microphone rather than behind the books. So I'm done with that, that army coming in strong with support they do what they do a lot of things, whether it's a. Some of their points on Twitter to get people to come on a podcast are offering support. So this is what we get both useful. A couple of things I want to talk about before we get to new business a few points of old business, and I know it's old and everyone's over it, and you and the three subs did a fantastic job of covering all of this. But a couple of things I wanted to talk about. I actually was more into the taping challenge than you Jonathan were and fair enough. I think the complaints are reasonable that, like it shouldn't depend, your fate, shouldn't depend on another person. And it's also probably reasonable that you guys speculated that this was originally designed when they were partners, but I kind of liked how wonky that was like how it's like okay trust. Somebody in, in the crowd. And then in theory, you also had a hand in it in terms of how you could wrestle out. But west just such a piss poor job that. That it didn't matter what did. But the reason I bring it up is I was I should have written in a question, although I hadn't watched the episode until this week. So that would have been really hard to right into question. Was there any surprise Georgia pick turbo? Like, yes, he has taped people up before Georgia speculated. But, you know, the relationships were so interesting to watch because Noni and turbo pairs, and you would think that turbo would be so loyal to Noni that he wouldn't just like execute like a psycho against her, right? Yeah. Yeah. I was surprised. I I'm trying to remember exactly. I think she just had a sense of turbos, just his his what he would do, like he knew she knew that a situation, turbo would put pass whatever partner, he may have ad and just wants to way and they just that type of person wants to win no matter what he's doing who he's doing a four. And it does to me indicates that like a yes, turbo veterans be like wall hunters thinks he played Georgia lake fiddle to pretend to make up with her like he's she's still not trusting him in the game. So that was interesting. I also thought it was strange that in the elimination between Kyle and THEO, which was awesome that Georgia's rooting for Kyle over the UK lines. And it was just watching a lot of these relationships without having to take notes for the podcast. It's like, once you like, let go of having to like outline the main things you can look at some of the smaller things, so. Part of me was like what happened to this UK thing and like wears Georgia with Kyle and, and, and then also Allie was rooting for Kyle meaning me, and I was floored that I was hurting for Kyle, which really just reading thrown around for Kyle revealed to me that I'm really just anti Kara, and that I'm fine with Kyle. Car ABC? Okay. And then the other thing I want to address is that ninjas really starting to annoy me. All right. Let's buckle up here we go. I mean you guys talked about the ninja turbo d fight. Somebody tweeted to me when I wasn't episodes, like please address what like a sexist person turbo is. I was like, and they were like, you know, Jonathan Brian didn't cover it. Like you're meant whatever. I don't know what happened. I don't know if you were tagging it or not. But I mean at Texas Jonathan like oh shit. Like, what am I about to watch it and have to deal with, like, I don't wanna talk bad about turbo. You'll me and then I Jonathan was like, I'm not really sure like the fight was like in this Jewish in, like turbo. I feel like didn't do anything like ninja absolutely tact her. But you address that fine. What would I'm starting to get annoyed with besides that is that she's starting to do a touch of the Sarah like over enthusiasm for every single element in the challenge like, oh, like even when the helicopter? That should be exciting and earnest, but I'm not I'm not excited. I would even say maybe ninjas worst moment, which I can't believe again, this can be like the second time in a row now and be on car side the way she was going at our for the fear of the deals and stuff. I thought that was the worst thing. She's because that's like. At your core. You can't like like that's your fear, like your fears, your fears. So the belittle that I thought that was even super festival on top of everything. She's not. I don't know. She's just starting. I'm getting a touch of the nerves with her, like I was okay with it, and then and it goes back to sort of, like when she was like mad about not connecting with poly because she's not my fav- amazing competitor, but socially, she's not my fav- over the last few weeks. We got anti ninja procotol what I want to turn turn of events for war of a war of the worlds here. Something more traditional is that I'm pro cake and Haley's cake coverage did me proud that is a question I submitted. I couldn't when she was guessing the flavors in advance. I was crying was hilarious more than I expected. But I have a deep, please love the we got the exclusive that you revealed the flavors you chose. Like again, I didn't imagine that, that would happen really, really appreciated that coverage outside of each of our parents, you're like the only one who's gonna going right now. So you that's what's exciting to about having someone as experiences Haley on the podcast, aka a few months prior to us starting podcasting. Is that she saves the nonsense for the end like a respectable podcast? Unlike me right now. We do the trade like this. This is back to like drunk adver, as where you like touch. You think at this arguing episode and then this cake, this is this is our roots. So it's like yeah. I I'm so afraid that I'm gonna forget that the psychosis like crazy stuff that I've to lead with it. And I you know, you're always learning. I'm listening to podcasts. Go, wow. Look at Haley flawlessly, weaves it in at the end when people can tune out. And I took nothing from that. And here I am I've a follow up. Here's what I really wanted to touch on again. It exceeded my expectations. Why in the photo was there like an extra smear of icing on each of the cakes? That was just like an extra like butter cream that all the decorations on a cake, you're going to be made out of. So it's like you could taste a little of it with okay? Pays the pays a little extra extra flavoring the decorations. We'll keep that a secret also a follow up question, what's a water helmet. Did you mean the helmet where you have like the two beers on the side? Yeah. Basically. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Waterboy home. I really wasn't sure if there's like some new because I don't run like there's some new. Clearly, not under that. Okay. And then my last thing, and this is kind of a serious thing. And this was no big deal. But just like a quick reaction that actually the woman on the bachelorette. I think it accident was said that she had sexual assault allegations against her. She had accused people involved in the show of sexual assault against her. I didn't realize we said the opposite. I thought thought she discuss the correctly, I guess, maybe just like pronouns or clear, Matt. I just was listening. It was like, I'm gonna flag it because I would wanna flagged if it were me totally. But now I told you my comments would be quick. Those three episodes are dead. It was dead. Let's talk about this episode. Yeah, we'll got the final I think this is, you know, we see a lot of all a lot of corrections in the world for somethings that may not have gone. Right. And pass Eason's. And this is a big auto. This big autocorrect for a final because we were gleaning about how it may be a little too easy last season. It was like super easy. They, they stepped it up. I years that we've been saying like the finals broken the finals broken. Here's McGuinness says to start us off the great McGuinness says what did I just watch? I assume she's talking about turbo eating the mountain of chicken to prepare. Which was brilliant was like I didn't know what he is like an game was. And then he was like I wanna prepare running on a full stomach. In case, I eat a lot of discussing my, wow, that's actually Bruin wasn't chicken. I wish Ailey truly was here subbing for me. I Dennis by one food item that was. You should have really gone all out on us like rancid chicken, or somebody, that's puking, while he's on the treadmill, also go, the full of old measure. But this was a doorbell, and this is sort of, like, why we love turbo like who thinks like this seems obvious? But it's not. And I'm just like oh, wow. He is just training and then just running on eating on in running on a treadmill simple as that. Very smart. Oh, I want to before we get another side. I want to get your thoughts on Hollywood is going, how hunter phrase that he's like the defending champ coming in. And she said that Sarah would also view herself as a champion. Here's where you wait on that. Do you think she would view herself as a champion that season? I mean. Hundred kind of forgot about Sarah, this week, he system like I'm the only one who's ever wanna find. What didn't win any money? Thanks, Sarah sort, again, a little forgotten in this regard. I want to once again, bring her back to the four, oh, hunter is forgetting about people. And acting like what happened to him with some grave injustice jot, shocking. Yeah. I mean that's interesting. I think I would say both of them were part of winning teams I think. The way that so I guess, I guess I would have to I'm trying to think if there was any distinction between the way either final was phrased like Ashley, I guess, Ashley bananas were the overall winners and Sarah and hunter report of the winning teams. So I think you can guess the question is, can you win a final without winning being the money winner. Basically, I think they both have counted as a win, but their prize because they there's two metrics people track like how much money you've won. And how many finals you've won against everything in me. I do think that hunter won the final with Ashley as part of a pair within Ashley was the challenge champ like the money winner. Because I'm always like is interesting how people view the context of winners. And so I feel like winter sometimes aren't even as important in the challenge world. So when unless the defending champ coming into the next season but is always fascinates. People view, the winner of the challenge other seasons and much how important it is. Sometimes more important, less important putting on the conversation. So hunter giving away when maybe win. It's interesting, it's interesting. I think he was a part of the winning team. And therefore he is not the defending champ like if they were team they would be the defending like Ashley on her own. I think is the defending champ and like car on her own when she won. But otherwise, it's like the team because who gives us shit if you want, like he did not win individually, which means he's very beatable. Individual challenge. Well, the other thing, too is like and correct me if I'm wrong. And I'm sure people will be mad about this hundred nationally knew that they'd have the opportunity to choose the money, whereas bananas and Sarah did not know that 'til the end. Tovia corrupt. So I don't that. Also adds a change. I still think I come down. I come down, but they want as a team, and then it was like up. Now let's decide where the money comes whereas it was like, okay, the winner of the team is going to decide how the money happens like a head of time. And I feel like that's a subtle distinction. But an important one. Yeah, it's interesting with the week of winter. So it's a interesting topic of conversation. I think here is doing an unbelievable. I mean aside from patting himself on the back and look, no one's on a big self congratulate or two. So I'm not gonna shade him for that. But I think what he's doing here. Like how what a flawless game. He's played up to this point. So I have two questions. One comment, one question the common is I think this is beautiful when he's talking about how like, oh, he didn't perform well on a challenge in, like every makes fun of you. And he's like getting in their heads. While also seeming vulnerable. I thought this was really effective of, like, you know, you really need to be worried. I fucked up to. It's great because we, he could come from like again, it's like his, his great sense of telling the truth. When it's clear on the truth, and also finagling it with a little bit of lies and this action, clearly they showed be worried about a final west knows about files, it's super tough. But then he's also doing it with his own interests in mind because he wants them to be defeated and worried and scared though, it's the classic west mix. And then you said sometime in the last three weeks was when she was just in the last few days for me listening, but that this is probably going to go down as his best season. So do you agree with him that he has played a flawless political social game this season? Yeah. I mean, I think I need to I don't think it's been perfect. There's some things he thinks he did well, that really didn't have much of an impact. But I also don't think he's done anything negatively. So I don't think he's done anything though hurt his game. I think some of the things he thinks he could super well we're like man. And I think he's done some things. Well, any examples I mean I wouldn't want to be put on the spot. So no sweat. But anything to mind, sickout, I there was one. I can't remember. Exactly. But I remember there was a the manipulation where he was, like, all right now, that I'm safe, and I'm in the tribunal that he can be double safe. And there are few votes where he was going to the UK that he thought he was doing it better than I think he thought he was I need to review the specific. She's going through the season. But I remember saying, like there was some things he was doing. That was very good. But also keeps giving them too much credit. Yeah. I'm pretty sure there was a week where he had the relic but then still was in the tribunal. Then I also like the d. Mattie thing comes to mind. I mean, I think the Noni thing was a major mistake, but it just they don't really have major consequences. Like, I think he was able, paulie got really mad at him was able to defuse that. So I don't think he was without mistake leg. I agree with you. But I think they didn't it didn't matter. He's in a great spot. I think he really achieved what he wanted to achieve, even if it wasn't totally flawless. And I've even biggest thing that going from this season is so many that it's going to help them going forward. You just collected a whole new crop of people that are very loyal friends with him that are going to stick with him in a future season, which is something he has done in the past, where he just tries to have one and done people. Now he has a core group of actual friends that he can build on and use in a future. Who's let's start, let's explore that who are who's obviously, obviously hunter hunter. They're they're definitely with him. And I think then connected with each other. Those people are people that will at least in the beginning and part of the game will be with him hunters friends, and like the ninja, like I think will be with him. So it might up people that will be loyal one hundred percent at the end game. But at least the beginning in the middle, which is sometimes the most dangerous bar. He'll have a surrounding group that aren't gonna be coming after him did forge relationships of high oil. I mean Noni left pissed at him. But I think at the end of the day, she shows she trust him. But on the flip side. I mean he's got mortal enemies and devan in Georgia and bear. Yeah. I mean, the, the Barron, Georgia's that would be curious where Georgia maybe slides back towards west at the asshole, Barra's. Maybe kind of right, all along, no chance. We'll see. I think the bears like yes, she's not to be loyal to bear, but I do think that what happened between her and Dave on. She like she made the deal with west after bear left, like to me that wasn't so much about their as it was Dave like Georgia wanting to play game or she's like oh yeah. I don't like making deals with slimy characters. I want to be up front. Oh, it'd be honest. I wanna win out. And like taking that sort of Dan, Manta men mentality that like making a deal with him as me deal with the devil. I think that's sort of independent of bear, although, yeah, never say, never anyone could work with anyone but I don't think it was solely like revenge for bear. Right. Yeah. It was. Not go back, but it was to see Georgia calling for Barron that moment that was very said. But that's a we're going to talk about that, that was going forward. She's like I'm so embarrassed. My Colonel embarrass. You have so much heart. She's amazing. And just like I just want bears own. Now, you could be embarrassed. Of west was calling show with the oh, saying he's going to finish fourth or fifth very specific with eight people is pretty specific worth, I think's going to finish. So on the. Chekhov's garden finish. Or what's again, west is trying to say no. I think that was just like what you said, where it's like a mix of lying manipulation and truth. Like, yes. Fear final, and lent gonna do well, you're gonna do like fourth and fifth just off the fifth or six just off the money. Like I think that was just him like grandstanding. Mattie reveals very intimate detail the cheeky say picture of her mom and sister in her bra. Support more ways than one I think that's what lock it's four. But you do you Manny. That's like that's an old school thing seemingly lock in the black, it's. It. Oh, I just lost a lock it, actually. Almost personnels. Maybe Matty has it found her way, the universe right at its wrongs. I'd like to see how like gross and runny that pictures after this fine like I can thinking that and it's like I thinking about during the final is like if you're keeping paper with ink in your chest in, like the thousand degree desert like that. That paper is now permanently affixed to your chest. Yes. How do you got a new tattoo? Oh boy. Rip off after you take all everything else that stock deal. Helicopter Rives ninjas, or low dance and incomes, the Choky on wheels. The pain locker, I know we haven't seen we've only seen fifty percent but I thought this pain, locker was going to be them like shackled to the walls like this kind of looked like a little retreat not a pain locker. Yeah. I'm so far, there was no real pain in there anything they use that for hydration. So it was like a recovery locker. So, so for the pain locker hasn't really lived up to its name. And to give Carson credit here. She gives a little pep talk in the pain locker like you know, you only have this experience once with these people like I like this. I thought that was a cute moment from Kara like the experienced vet like giving a pep talk like a little community before they out. I enjoyed that my thought was sweet. I'm sure like we can judge all these people for doing this final. We'll never cloudy know what it's like to actually do it so good on it for them. How this forever with all the cramps in misery that they are about to go from this sweetest moment of the episode to the probably most holy shit moment of the episode. TJ explains the challenge the vinyl breath path. That's about when he said fifty miles I thought he like misspoke? And it was one of those weird like get the get the overlap I thought he meant five miles fifteen miles, fifty miles is a preposterous amount to do basically anything, especially if you're just running, and biking. Well, so I still am a little confused. So like my understanding, I need some clarification. The the entire path is fifty miles. And this. In the way or the twenty four miles they did today count towards the fifty. Twenty four counts swords, and they're going to be doing some level of activity for fifty miles, and they did twenty four of them. That makes Merson. Yeah. No. It's ridiculous. It's like basically two marathons back back to back days. I'm sure they're not sleeping in any helpful accommodations. Not that, that would really make a difference. But yeah, that was crazy. I didn't think it was shoop Bor well explained. But I got it at the end like as I was taking notes, I started reorganizing, I think more information came later that was helpful in the beginning. But no, this once they say fifty miles I was like holy shit. But what I liked about the way it was broken up. And we got some comments, people are upset that it's like we'll add up your times, best time is the winner, I liked at least in this portion, it was one thing. So like, yes, they can do shredded, they can decide do checkpoint which checkpoint, those take different times than do a lap or do to zero whatever. And we'll talk about all this choices I liked the once you finished that was first place. There was no adding up within the time. So I'd rather I don't mind if it's two times added together, fine, we can get a better idea, probably like knowing when to the finish. And then, like, watching him in the second day, I like it less when it's small chunk. So it's usually like okay in the first episode and the first part will have three times we're going to add up and then two times in the end and then buy, you can't keep track of that. I liked that. This was at least one continuous timed episode. Yeah, I totally agree. We'll see how the second park owes maybe over back to that. But at least for this it was good. And maybe the biggest upset all season was the fact that they actually gave us the times, which was stunning. Yeah, I'm afraid to, like say anything about it or it'll go away. It's like go like I don't. Yeah. I think they did a really really great job of keeping us posted of where people were in the standings. And then also giving us the time at the end because there is a certain point night. I took the not could. And then at certain point, it's like this is exciting in my opinion to watch. I am enjoying watching it, it is nearly impossible to track. So I think they gave us bits and pieces of where the standing was, and then they gave us the time at the end which to me offset the fact that it was really hard to track while I was watching. It was also a fun twist that it made it hard for everyone else involved, the track. There was no way to know. I mean, because you kind of piece it together, but it wasn't as clear like all right. Well, I'm in I clearly and second because there's a few different ways to go about doing this at it wasn't perfectly clear for the competitors. Cool was in first, and who was in second until they were basically done, and then they got a sense of where they all lined up throughout the middle. It was it was pretty muddle exciting because there's a strategic element of, like you, see THEO asking if she timed out, which would be the full twenty minutes, or if she completed it and she's like you'll find out she doesn't want to tell them. So I think that adds an interesting social part of the game of like, you know, Wes, trying to motivate hunter trying to say, let's run together or ninja, like stepping over Georgia's dead body and not stopping to help her. But, you know there are traces like what am I gonna stop to help other people with what am I going to press on what am I going to reveal where I'm at and the checkpoints like that was interesting to, and even the orders of what checkpoints you do? Because we saw that comeback bite for hunter that he had a weight Ricarda do it, because that was the last one you to do. So there a few multi-layer step that kind of help piece together, the strategic part of this final let though or is there a way to have gamed that 'cause I kind of feel like you know, hunter arrived fourth or fifth. I don't remember exactly to the checkpoint. So it's not like he had his pick of the litter with checkpoints and then it kind of seemed to me, it was just like do the ones you can do. I mean, maybe if that last checkpoint was open before his last run, he should have opted to do it to get done to ensure that it was available running will always be available. But aside from that, like, how could you really game that? The only the only way you could possibly do if you if you do the hardest ones. I right. If you're doing saving the easiest ones for the end than even if you are having a weight, and you might not wait before pointy minutes. Whereas if you're saving hardest one which it seemed like the color permit puzzle was the hardest thing anyone only anyone did it. So then you have to wait the full twenty minutes or however long you just got there for a car at a time out. And then you can do your thing in time out, then is hard to kind of figure out as you go, like true people are probably getting sensitive as they started playing, but what figure takes two or three of those checkpoints to figure it out. And then you'll have to left. It seemed like the move was to end on a run. That way you said you're not waiting for anything no matter what you can just run. So, yes. For anyone who let this wash over them or didn't watch, basically, it was six mile loop that you have to run than bike than run than by so four laps total in the process, you have five checkpoints that you'll time out at twenty minutes, and you can you everybody had to run a lap first. And then after you run a lab of the option running another lap or doing checkpoint. You can my understanding was that you could only do a checkpoint or run twice. It's not like you could run all four lap. I mean who would want to do this, but it's not like you could run all four laps and then do all five checkpoints that correct. I, I don't know if that was fully explained. I don't know of anyone ever did three in a row. But I don't see why you wouldn't be able to do that. I thought it was just laying was the option. But who whatever I mean no one would do that, that would be madness. Let's talk about all the checkpoints I because again, I think it's hard to track later like who picked what and whatever let's talk about rampage, which gave a lot of people trouble and not as much as the pyramid scheme. But this was pushing using large pole to push a ball up of pretty steep ramp, narrow ram through a hole at the end. Yeah. This this seem like the simplest this gave people were able to do this one. So that means it clearly gave people, these are the ones that almost no one was able to do. So this seem pretty simple. But was when you're mentally physically everything exhausted. Nothing simple. So I mean. I mean, I didn't have a problem with any of them and this one was vinyl. So, yeah, I mean, I think it's tough is like this one to me was deceptively simple, where it's like, okay the ring toss. June segment now on point where it was literally ring toss, you just had to get a ring on five posts where if I pose like it looks like okay, I can do