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Tokyo Tour - tech innovations and oddities

Talking Tech

05:49 min | 2 years ago

Tokyo Tour - tech innovations and oddities

"Talking tech is brought to you by wicks dot com. With wicks, you can use artificial design intelligence to create a stunning website right from your phone in five minutes or less. Just go to wicks dot com. That's w. i. x. dot com. And create your professional website today. Hello, talking tech listeners. I'm back from my weekend, Japan and Batt on the podcasting beat think thank you to go when my Snyder enriched in euro for filling in for me while I was gone and speaking of that trip to Japan, I'd like to tell everyone about some of the more unusual as well as useful tech innovations that I saw during my travels. Let's start with something that every one of you would want a battery charger. First smartphone did, does it have to be charged before you can use it now we've all been there. We've run at a juice while we're out and about on our travels. We could spend twenty to fifty dollars for an external battery brick that connects to the smartphone. If we were smart enough to charge it up and take it before we left or in the case, Japan just slip into a seven eleven store and pick up one of these twenty dollar chargers that goes way further. There are already stocked with four AA batteries. Now you could get more power from one of the bricks, but you have to recharge it again before you use it in Japan. There's a seven, eleven on seemingly every block in the city's. So access to external power is now available to everyone and so readily available for IOS or Android. So that falls into the useful category in the strange weird and maybe who knows category, two products that caught my eye from Panasonic. There's the battery powered leg air massager for the woman at work to where stylishly as a dress accessory and a cone of silence type contraption that knocks out other sounds and sights while at work more on that in a minute. Let's start with the leg massager. It's pink contraption that attach the both legs and the. A remote. You can now massage twelve parts of your feet and legs. It sells for around four hundred bucks for big spenders. You could pick up a button massager for eight hundred dollars. Now these products are currently only sold in Japan and Malaysia, but if interested listeners could pick up a used version on EBay, more interesting is this crazy quiet cone that attach is to your head. It's called wear space. It's a prototype for a product that might eventually come out the ideas, the blackout noise and more from your co workers. It's a use shape fabric that wraps around your face over some headphones, the phones block out the noise and the fabric blocks out what your co workers are doing. No pricing has been announced, but I can tell you this. I like wearing headphones, but not all day. I'm good for maybe a half hour and hour tops. I can't imagine wearing this. You show. Fabric for very long, eight hours a day. I don't think so. Now, meanwhile, you've probably heard me say the Japanese electric shops are some amazing places, a geeks, paradise, and their way larger than the ones we have back home with floor after floor of everything from cameras, phones and TV's two toilets, lighting and toys beyond what's new, what's really cool is how these stores are so large, they don't get rid of old products. You wanna fax machine. I can find you a whole lot of them. Many models at the iota Bashi Akiba shop. That's the world's biggest electron store. Remember many Devi camcorders while I haven't used once since two thousand and ten, but the store has several blank mini Devi cassettes available for sale. And after navigating eight floors of tech goods at Yoda Bashi going up all those escalators you know, that lake massager sounds kinda cool. After all, I'm Jefferson Graham with USA that you can check out my video report Abed visiting Yoda Bashi and doing the Tokyo should Buick scramble on my YouTube channel. His YouTube dot com. Slash Jefferson, Graham look for me on Twitter where I match efforts in Graeme. Please subscribe to talking tech on apple in Google podcast. Please favor the show on Stitcher, which helps more people find the show, and thanks everyone for listening. Talking tack is brought to you by wicks dot com. When you're ready to get your website up and running, you want to be able to do it quickly and efficiently and wicks dot com has got you covered. They developed artificial design intelligence that creates a stunning website for you with wicks. You can create your own professional website, right from your phone, which means you can open your own online store portfolio or blog wherever you are. How's that for efficient? Just to wicks dot com. Decide what you need a website for pick your style at your own images link your social accounts and just like that your website is ready. You'll look amazing on every device desktop and mobile, and it takes less than five minutes. 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Redmi 9 Leaks - Specifications, Processor, Battery, Storage

Phenomenal Guruji FM

01:19 min | 5 months ago

Redmi 9 Leaks - Specifications, Processor, Battery, Storage

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Akiba and KenryaI Fight White Supremacy By

Toure Show

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

Akiba and KenryaI Fight White Supremacy By

"The white supremacist means a political and economic system that privileges white people and locates all or almost all power in their hands. When i say america is a white supremacist nation all white people have clan hoods in their closet far from it i mean the country is run by a system that rewards whiteness and punish other races white supremacy means the way white people have the overwhelming majority jordy of wealth and political power in this country. It's the way white people are more likely to get hired and less likely to be killed by the police. America might be the greatest it is country on earth but it will never be as great as it could be until we dismantle white supremacy. How do we do that. How do we fight against white. Supremacy my friend the writer akiba solomon and her friend can rea- rankin have put together a fascinating anthology called how we fight white supremacy that has a lot of of ideas about the way forward. Let's get into it. It's akiba solomon and can rearrange the authors of how we fight white supremacy on show. I'm makeba solomon hi. I'm carey rankin. What is white supremacy so we define why supremacy in the book as a cultural economic and political system that thrives on the subjugation of people who are not white where we see true true through like help me again. Is there give me an example of it so we can help people to see because i think people know what interpersonal racism is and they generally enderle default to that we talk about racist but even black people i think quite often see like somebody said something where they're really talking about micro aggressions yeah yeah and a lot of people know about white supremacy but they don't know necessarily. Where do we so. Where do you see it. I mean so you can see it in housing regulations even see it in dog whistle politics you who is hired who gets paid the most host who doesn't <hes> you know who is to it's okay to discriminate against an is socially acceptable. We see it at the white house. <hes> we tatum foreign policy so we posit that this is sorta like a cancer score a smog and is global so we focus on in the states in the book because we couldn't do the whole world pain all of our brilliant yes. We're going to put a year. We couldn't contain our brilliance but but you know i mean it in some ways is all encompassing like it definitely shapes how people's lives and up and we breathe it in smoggy than we don't realize we are year. You referenced lake p._t._s._d. That we all have coming from is it. Where does that function. Is it like you know. I watch alton sterling and i am traumatized. I read about emmett till hill. I see sandra bland. I'm traumatized. You know like the micro aggression. I had to deal with when i was going into work and by that point. Just you know i'm filled up. Is that like in mounts and it's exhausting right when you're constantly having to deal with somebody trying to touch show hair or watching somebody who looks just like you being killed by police or are here in a police describe a little boy who looks like he was a thug and taking away his humanity all of them mounts and you're walking around in that online and it is exhausting list it is traumatic and what it does to all of us the gigantic number of snuff films that we have in our head from the past what four four or five years the huge i mean i could call up ten in my short term memory without a problem. You probably say like all of us like what what is that doing to us. I mean i i think there's that he's the show that if you watch a lot of violent events that you become desensitized to them <hes> <hes> and also that you know you because you have a greater appetite in the violence grows but i do think that there's a big difference between knowing that you're gonna watch a film paying to watch a film sitting down choosing entertainment and being blindsided by video just out of nowhere a somebody being shot the headline police and we have a couple of therapists in the book and one of them specifically talks about race based trauma and how folks black folks living you know she he we again narrow our focus to america but how when we are in the spaces that are white and not made for us and our violent that we can have actual signs of p._t._s._d. e._s._p._n. The same symptoms <hes> so okay. The book is how do we fight white supremacy. How we white supremacists yes yes. So how do we fight well. I mean we we did the book in ten chapters <hes> and they're based on unconventional black wit and wisdom <hes> and basically what we wanted to do is talk about our cultural interventions. We wanna talk about grassroots work doc but we also wanted to talk about kids activists when to talk about spirituality. We have a chapter about love. We have a chapter. Our last chapter is about freedom dreaming and it's this idea that you know if you don't take a pause and actually envision what freedom looks like then we're going to have trouble getting there and and so you know we have but we also have a chapter. It's called laugh to keep from crying where we just had like satire from lehman comedic essays from damon minyang and that sort of thing so i mean the the gist of the book is that we fight white supremacy on a million different frequencies and that we're not a monolith analysts and that <hes> could be fighting white supremacy without thinking consciously hi good morning. I'm fighting white supremacist. The reality is on some days. Just getting out of bed is fighting it like on the day after the election. <hes> cannot be with finding that was resisting that was resistant ensue just because i've been watching homecoming and talk about if you can't think so let's start at the end. <hes> we talk about the garza's piece about what it looks like so what does to freedom from white supremacy actually look like and then we can go back about the road to that i mean i think it really depends on the person and that's why we have so many different. <hes> folks weighing in that last chapter. <hes> the hope up is that you know by the time when people finish the book there are able to do two things one. They're able to really think about what a future without white. Supremacy looks like what what it feels like what it tastes like this sounds like <hes> and then the other is that they are now able to complete a sentence that we ask people to complete throughout the book. Which was i fight white supremacy by dot dot dot. They're able to either. They really look at the ways that they're already fighting because what we encounter with a lot of people was that when we ask them that question they really had to sit and reflect and they realize oh shit i am already fighting in insulin made them be more intentional about the way that they do those things things and then for some folks was just like <hes> i really need to sit with this and try to figure out the way that i will and that's what we hope that people will do when they finish <hes> in in the book we right we eat so there's ten chapters as akiba was saying and at the end of each chapter we answer a question that relates to the theme and we answer it via very very personal essays and so our ways of what freedom looks like the way that we describe it comes out in our essays at the end and so for me <hes> that looks like being able to bring my whole self to every table <hes> not feeling like i have to leave a part of myself door not having a cola switch which i have been freed from <hes> not having to wonder why i'm at the table not gas like my damn self and you know getting in all into that imposter syndrome that so many of us carry around and wondering why do i get to be here. Why do i deserve it and i'm just beyond fucking time yeah yeah so. Where's this world where you get to be yourself. You asked that's when we get rid of white supremacy where right now i am intentionally. He doing a lot of those things when wrong with coats which nothing is wrong host which is just for me. It's exhausting. I i am so tired of freedom is that we don't have to yet that we live in a world. Where if i don't do that. I don't have to worry that. I'm not going to get a job that i don't have to worry that. Someone is gonna think that i'm not as smart as they are because i ain't fuck you know what i mean like. I get to be me and it's not negatively impacting me because because to them because anti blackness is so pervasive that anything that is a marker of me. Being a black woman is a negative thing and it's going to detrimentally impact me 'cause code. Switching is what we have to do to accommodate. Don't code switch to know i mean and and i mini also think that there is a sort of performance of code switching that they do you know the which which is noxious and some noxious then it's not a survival mechanism in the sexually micro aggression but you know we are forced to code switch <hes> in so many different ways body language the faces so you make clear where you talk they hair you know and i think it's important to mention that. We don't judge people who switch league league. You'll love oprah barack obama and is how we get to the point where we are where we can decide not to do it. We had to do the for years and years and years. I was terrible at it faces experiment. It's interesting to even imagine without it because i am good at it and so much of my career has been being able to perform it and to think about doc having a do it sort of unimaginable crazy how much energy it takes. I i mean you know oh. It's it's it's second nature to me and i try not to try to never be outside of myself to where you know if i stepped outside. It'd be like i am. I'm embarrassed to have said that or done. That and i've definitely been the person in an all white space who was like fuck that that's bullshit avenue number. We got into oh my god. We got into a big argument. It wasn't it wasn't even harvest this silent or it was like well. We'll of somebody in the space said <hes> i'm trying to. I'm trying to describe it without fully describing where it was <hes> ha the the the comment was that we had to do something about black history month and the person said what about wait history month now my and i said so unoriginal a totally and i said that's every month but then like there was like it was like a silence bomb dislike turned around and looked back there and it was like <hes> toray iraq again spoke the truth you take me and it was it was it was debbie hurtful and yeah they were they were ready for it and we you know we deal with that sort of stuff in the office all day all day all night. So you want paper you go to work. Most of us work in spaces that are mostly white. So what do you do. I mean until the laugh to keep from crying essay that i write in the book. I talk about sarcasm so you know i've learned to adapt my sense of humor to exist assists no spaces <hes> but but also like if i get blindsided by a crazy comment it used to really drive me crazy. I used to curse people out through things all that kind of stuff. <hes> added <hes> civil everything through thinks it's amazing. You didn't well. I was a source. I mean you know the shoe like so you don't like in terms of the survival mechanism of sarcasm the survival mechanism of basically clowning somebody without coming out and saying it so the person knows that in some way hey you've resisted or you've menace them ill and settled in it. I feel and you're just sort of like you know. So one thing i also learned was a good <hes> hand hand on the shoulder so somebody was spinning out of control over effect that they got wrong that i was employed to check then i would like gently pet somebody on the shoulder and you know sometimes i was like am i being a mammy. They were just trying to keep them shaking. You and i think it was keep from shaking you because you are like you're so excited. I'm just like you need to calm down. So are we talking in this about surviving or combating to the point of eventually dismantling surpremacy. I think it runs the gamut. I mean that that's that's a major part of what we wanted to do to meet people where they they are <hes> and so you know we have professional activist professional strategies and then you know we have a we have a witch in the book <hes> <hes> yeah fantastic so. Did you know i mean we. We have a woman mia birdsong who you know she lived out in the country entry and she learned how to grow and food for the apocalypse so she wants to have her own skill that she can bring to the revolution i'm here for i think a huge part of the problem is the wealth gap and truly combating white supremacist got to involve wealth acquisition shen and all the everything that goes along with that we need not just more black billionaires but more black millionaires fewer poor black people and the political power that goes along with having money <hes>. Is that a big part of the prescriptive. Well i mean i'm not trying to warm out of that question and but we don't look at this book is prescriptive. We look at it as generative we look at it as a both a celebration in an articulation <hes> that said definitely the wealth gap is a persistent problem and it's one of those problems that fits quite squarely under white supremacy so you you have a wealth gap because it actually buttresses white supremacy in the same way transphobia does or does or any of these other 'isms we call them little helpers bruce in that you know you can't you can't vanquish white supremacy without dealing with the tentacles of it and there's a chapter in the book i make money moons that look at entrepreneurship and wealth generation as a strategy as well you know i can. I can hear some of the people who are listening to this thinking yeah well. I mean you know i'm an ally you know. I don't get an dean yourself in allen. Let's let's say that and you know. I think thought said you know i mean like i don't. I don't want this white supremacy thing but you know you are are. You can't help but participate in it. I mean i think but when you know again this weekend to arguments on twitter and people are like i'm poor in west virginia. I don't have white privilege. What is white supremacy in lakewood just because you don't have gas in your car. Does it mean you don't have a car. You're airport because of white supremacy. Let's let's not clear what i mean is that you know if you can equip a group of people to the vote against their own interests or act against their own interest because they wanna maintain this little weird foothold because they aspired away is so because they believe that whiteness is their main value than they're suffering from white supremacy to now. I'm not interested in lacking hands with these people and trying trying to convince them. You know that's not the that's not our bag but at the same time i think is really really important to understand you know the class underpinnings of white supremacy zero and how this system came to be. I mean this idea. Even of you know making this distinction between <hes> you know enslaved africans hands and <hes> they call it again. I'll know was such a good place coming up. No it would servitude. I mean you know if you create these systems where one one group of people is higher in the hierarchy than the other and that's the one thing that they cling to be really busy doing things that work against their own interests so one thing that we always like to say in folks. I'm you know i have this. Would everything we like to talk. We like to talk about the the hierarchy that props of white supremacy so at the top of that hierarchy is a white eight wealthy six gender straight christian able bodied men met all the things all the things crawl though the person they have has all those things gets to sit at the top of the hierarchy and all the rest of us get slotted in somewhere beneath him based on our you know our gender expression are are <hes> you know whether or not we are able in our body other from him exactly and so when you look at it as a hierarchy. It's a we hope if you're actually genuine and you're wanting to understand how this all works. You can understand that if you are a white woman who has is all of those things except for you don't identify as a man then you get to enjoy the privilege they come from being in that number two spot right so while you can say oh well i'm not a man in misogyny is a thing sure two things can be true but you still enjoy privileged everybody else who gives slotted down below. You doesn't get and when when they try to say oh well. I don't enjoy this what i like to remind them is you you climb that ladder right so often took to climb name means that you're stepping on something somebody in your aspirations. It is top spot and when you look at it that way hopefully if you want to you can understand the place that you occupy and what that privilege of ford you and if you want to be we an ally you can think about the ways that you can help out those folks who are slotted beneath even use your privilege to their service. Can we use violence to fight against white supremacy ramsey. I mean we can have just been yes. We have historically <hes> we i mean. I don't think we ever consciously said we're not gonna talk about violence in this book <hes> but i know you know from me being raised by black nationalists in philadelphia. The specter vector of violence was always president not in our household but just the discussion around armed struggle. You know this gushing around <hes> ito lubricating people from imprisonment in in that sort of thing <hes> but honestly late. That's not something i would ever put in a book number number. One <hes> it seems sort of strange to advocate for violence in a book like this one <hes> but number two right now how our most current contemporary forms of resisting supremacy are not violent so if we did this book in nineteen seventy-two it'll be different conversation. It'd be a different conversation worse yes so what are the. What are the core ways that you just referenced of fighting against white supremacy. I mean i as a question right so we have like seventy one different contributors in a book and each of them has their own individual way and so you know the genesis the whole idea was that we are not a monolith so the idea came from you know what women has song mice that poem song myself in and he says do i contradict myself okay fine. You know i contain multitudes and i used to like us that idea to talk about how i could dance on tables on saturday and go to church on all sunday and then i ended it to talk about black people and how we are not a monolith. We all are different. We love different things. Some of us don't eat shaking allies or whatever was just as there are millions of us who are dealing with the ravages of white supremacy. We there are millions as a way for us to do. We all have to come to our own ways. I mean the chapters are a really good way of kind of putting those ways into buckets but it's it's impossible to think about it in one way or so we have you know people who talk about how we love ourselves whole and how loving on the people who we are closest to in on ourselves as a race is a way resisting we have the humor chapter we talk about you know sarcasm and of mana satire niche after is like an amazing <hes> you know we have them. I make money moves. Chapter looks at the ways that the happens we have the freedom dreaming chapter which looks at the way that we look toward the future we have a chapter on religion and spirituality the and how that plays and and so while we can bucket it. We can't contain it. <hes> i remember going to <hes> bates in giving a talk there and <hes> one of the kids was asking me like you know. Basically you know we get into arguments with these little old bill o'reilly tucker carlson types and leg you know what do we do what we say we get in these arguments because they have the feeling the passion but they may not have all the statistics on whatever particular issue that they're going into the other kid doesn't either but he's lying. He's making fox news and you know and you can see. We've been there well well. Maybe you guys have you went to howard but like i remember going to white school and getting those arguments and you you don't crush the other person because usually in an argument you don't win. There's not usually a clear winner and you feel like you have led down the race because you didn't convince or dominate this discussion with this person and and i told the girl you don't have to engage in. It's actually happening here to educate damn google. Is this and i always like this weightlifting off of her. Remember all the advisers were behind like yes yes yes. He was like what cut like. I don't have to have the discussion at all like 'cause you're in so many of us to feel like we're here to as an adjunct for their experience but if you are sent in your experience and that conversation that helpful to you getting your job done getting your education you're gonna be upset an emotional the rest of the day then just don't have it and think think that became part of my college presentation every time i went like it's so liberating and they didn't even think of that and i didn't think that when i was in college and so this is partly what you guys are driving at the show we don't we don't address black could call conservatives right <hes>. We're not reaching across the aisle l. These sort of euphemisms because you know ultimately this is a form of aggression and it's a form of violence so again walking up to somebody blindsiding them purring them with half truths or peppering them with this idea that they should be subjugated because they're not white and then saying what do you say to to that like what kind of racial we're just not wanna do hey. I'm not going to center you at any time. That's not what i do is now what i care about and so we don't you black conservatives are part of the apparatus of white supremacy because they as we were talking about the hierarchy. They're stepping on the rest of our hey. He is reaching for that top spot aspiring to whiteness ultimately and the like the poor people you referenced before voting against their own interest right. I mean like i look at <hes>. Candidates owens and i'm like what are you talking about. It's not even half true percents charlatan. I think she's a charlatan i don't. I don't actually think that at her core. She believes a good three quarters of what she saying. I think that she just wants to be famous. I think she wants wants attention and i think she definitely goes for talking points that ended up being dramatic <hes> and so you know i mean again. The things that she says are are blatantly falls. You know what i mean. They literally don't make historical sense. Even if you are away supremacists you probably regard history a lot more than somebody like her and so you know just because she has a black face she shows up in them. Folks say well. We had her in the room so it wasn't racist. It's like come on. We know that game knock it off so i i love the therapist you talked about race based traumatic stress injury swingy and what is that so that's what we're talking about earlier about. How the you know we have the symptoms of p._t._s._d. How you know we can physically in our body. Not manifest the violence that comes with being in spaces that are violence who are that are not just not made for us but it actually has style to us whether it's that somebody is rooted in your head or you know asking you wait. You cut your hair. You know that whole thing that they liked to do to us <hes> <hes> is how you feel manifest in ways like high blood pressure anxiety and raises effect on the lost weight. It is well documented order because of yes definitely yes. I was story to share that happened last night. We <hes> we were coming from manhattan ville college. <hes> may have an event every year called ella baker day and it was a really great event and i was you know on my way home in the car and i was like literally smiling to myself and then away man ran up next to the driver asks him for money. The driver was like no and he was like fucking niggers in our life right musa. You're from zero to right and so lose. Just kinda like i was just has gone along with my black ass day. Enjoy myself you know i'd had a button with l. A. baker on a given to me. I was feeling good and then add a nowhere like here. Comes this this assault and so carry that around for a good three hours into my night so even though i knew that this man was probably mentally disturbed and everything but it's still like a still traumatic and it still made me fear is still made me say. Can you make sure all the doors are locked because i don't know what this person is gonna do and and so you know i think the combination of microaggressions and the systemic piece and this like sudden aggressiveness of the sudden verbal violence. Is you know it it makes your blood pressure spade as it comes with the ink with dr beat the hornets overflying of cortisol you end up with heart disease. How do you feel about that incident now like right now like would assume you were like twelve hours away from that. I mean honestly when i say those words as i feel tension like i still feel tension in my stomach from that well because you know i know what that is connected to and especially now l. in this climate i mean three black churches burn by allegedly burned by deputy sheriff's son <unk> the burning of the the highlander center in tennessee. You know a a racist a white supremacist. Mark found on the site like this this. This violence is real. <hes> i feel like it's escalating. <hes> and i feel like you know there's a leader in place. Who's not only welcomes it but you know drives it in folks see themselves in it and so i don't i'm not gonna say that this man who was panhandling handling you know is part of some great you know white supremacists plot no but if it does end bolden right emboldened and also i i mean i i felt scared and i'm. I'm just like why am i. Why do i have to feel scared. I absolutely you shouldn't have to feel scared. Just trying to no not at all <hes> there's so many things that i like underlined and starred as i was going through the book. White privilege is a hell of white privilege of the helluva. It's true it's true and it's meant to <hes> really prop up the poor white people to make them think you have status so they will participate in the whole game <hes> because if they were just on the bottom autumn level with us than they would perhaps join with us in trying to overthrow the system right. I mean this is the beginning of racism in america giving poor white people something to hold onto so like you're above somebody so then you'll participate in the system but also i mean i think there have been times when poor white people have. I've tried to ban together with you know subjugated. Black people and those movements are actually crushed. I mean his new shows us that the poor people's campaign pain no i'm thinking more of i'm thinking more of coal miners in the pinkerton agents and so this idea that number one some of the coal mining outfits were actually actually <hes>. They weren't segregated. They were black folks are white folks. I i mean i'm not saying alcon by ya but what i'm saying is they all worked in the same position and they all realize you know the the very clear health risks and the fact that they weren't make they basically sharecroppers of mining so you have a company company pinkerton that sends agents out to enforce the companies will and so you know why folks got killed. A net poor white post got killed elden at so. It's not just that you know poor white people <hes> many many don't know but the point is when people bull wake up when they do find out they also find out what the violence of the state is gonna be. I don't believe you talk about segregation irrigation as a potential solution. We didn't is it. Do you think about that. Should we be buying up some land. Montana we all move there or we all moved to saint croix jamaica. We we do talk about the importance of finding and creating spaces that are for us. I think that's as far as we does that mean like creating like you know our own own company where it's mostly us and we cannot have codes which because you know mostly and we do have people who talk about that and how the way that they fight as is that they create workspaces for black people and then they put money they use that money to you know employ people and put money into our own communities and things like that <hes> you know like for me me in mant. My daughter was in school. There was heavily white a- put her in it because it was a montessori school and we were moving from one area to another and i want her to have a continuation of the way that she began learning and i got the earned very clearly really very quickly realized that even though she had teachers who were not white that these folks were aspiring to whiteness and we're propping should up and making my shout martyr for them and so it may really evaluating what what valued i think doc was involved in her being in his wife's based and realizing that there was none in pulling hard fuck outta there. I'm putting her in a black in a black or space where she's able to bed in that way. She's in the second congra- now this happened last year sushi's at a black public school. She's at a at a public school. That is very racially diverse. Majority black and both of our teachers are black nam and she's he's thriving <hes> yeah but i'm really made me interrogating what what the value was of her being space and realizing that her being in a space where she could see ourself affirmed every day with much more valuable <hes> i mean there are segregation is just moments that we can create in our lives. You know perhaps in your home prep senior church in your community. Maybe in your professional life but for the most part you're gonna have to learn to live with them. Another line that i the underline and starred white people aren't going away. We have to find a way to exist theft and it's such a great sense and i mean i would love to not have to code switch but like you know at least in this generation <hes> we're going to have to find a way right. I mean like we had bad particularly freedom. During the win we can we can fight white supremacy and get along with them. Yeah how do we do monitor. Uh-huh are kind of a doozy. I mean i think that if you understand that it is a natural role that you should be subjugated because you're not white when you have that fundamental understanding and you carry yourself in that way you communicate indicate that there's something very calming about like suddenly the assaults in the gas lighting in the touching in the invasion of space don't they don't have the same impact and also as can raise those. It's a lack. I don't need to send her white supremacy or white folks for me to resist white supremacy. <hes> you know i resist white supremacy by living on my own terms this i guess so and you know i i think coats which again is a really important tool but when you're code switching in your actual she won't mind like when you're coming out of your body to try to put yourself in that person's shoes and then try to justify why you should be in the same space that is a really just just unnatural in bizarre action. If you think about it free of you know the underpinnings of this society so you know i mean i know my family you know and they come to kwanza date. You know they can comes the school like nobody's like i get outta here a bunch of the phase <hes> but it's also about claiming your space right. I am claiming your privacy you know and understanding that you know you could call segregation or you could call it being collected. You could call it being selective. I did a big story. <hes> couple years ago on black lives matter and spent like a year sort of rolling rolling stone's been like a year sort of talking to folks and the biggest takeaway that i found that media does not discuss around them is the massive massive importance of self care right media focuses on a._m. <hes> activist aggressive you know highly closing protesting but ah about fifty percent of their energy is around self care and that is resistance to white supremacy which is what you're referencing there like making sure that i am okay and like maybe going into a park and claiming a space this this little area is just for black people <hes> or reading something or just doing something that makes you feel safe and centered uncomfortable because you need that like exhale right. That's that's part of this right. Uh-huh absolutely i mean to bring back to be on sale because it always comes back to be on saturday man. I mean if you if you think about homecoming i mean that to me was a resistance resistance against white supremacy because she created this gigantic platform for all of these black dancers these young black dancers singers musicians and you know. I really do believe that there was a safe space element to it. You know and you had folks saying. I didn't want to go home after this so it's not that it was shangri. La and it's not that it regarded white people in any particular way it just allowed people behave in our culture and be a part of our culture and show what we're proud of and we'll we can do. She was so intentional about it. Think about coachella is like super. White boy rested instead of breaking my flower crown. I brought my blackness like yes yes. You don't have to conform to that base. That's what they you know. The assimilation wooded wooded is about right is us coming into that culture and leaving our own things behind which again is white supremacy because we're saying that that culture is more important to the supreme to ours and she's what's that this is black but also leave our culture behind other folks pick it up. If you know what i mean like the aping of our culture the extraction of our culture you know with greg tate says everything but the burden so why should we leave our culture behind. Why shouldn't we stake our claim because you're going to try to steal it. We're going to have to come up with something l. as sam ony everybody wanna be a negative but nobody wants to be a negative love that quote elway's liver burnett quote guy when you talk about dollah galling rachel bell for that <hes> god was just play. The devil's advocate alloway person wants to be down. It won't be one of us. What's the problem why not eleven they wanna walk around with the not near stomach. All day worried that somebody's gonna call. The police child lemonade exactly okay but they're not. They don't have to worry sorry about that. I mean i was thinking about this article. I read yesterday about how people in the surrounding area at howard you know new away folks. They are walking their dogs augsburg howard having a picnic on our campus so and then posting comments like i was i was met with hostility on howard's campus and i'm thinking to myself not only did you invade a safe space. Space was supposed to be saying but you actually like created a danger in that. If you decided to call police because you felt threatened or if you decided that somebody was shiftier suspicious or whatever it was the net can end up there can be a really violent or deadly outcome to dad and so somebody is white with arcades <unk> somebody who's white and presents his way they can claim as much as they want that you know feel in my my heart but you know i can't feel my heart that i'm white i mean nobody is going to be like oh yay yes. She said she was white so she's way like that's not oh how works no it sure doesn't work like that. <hes> golly ton easy coats is in the book because he's an old friend under your akiba. Yes talk a little bit about you do him when he was a poet guy. No he's gonna kill me. China has always been brilliant. He's always been you know a brilliant writer. <hes> he was a great poet. I think now sometimes he discounts as poetry as derivative of hip hop or whatever but he was quite a good poet but <hes> i mean the thing that i appreciate hit about china. High-sea throughout all of these years is that he does the hard thing and so you know if any he's not worried about being curmudgeonly in a way you know if people try to say you know try to reduce what he saying. He holds his ground and so you know you don't have to agree with him but he does sort of bear down on on what he believes. He's always been like that. <hes> i love this line. My weapon is radical self acceptance own and that sort of kind of sums up a lot of what you guys have been talking about that. If if you can censor yourself in your mind that in and of itself is resistant because everything wants to tell us that we i shouldn't right like white. Supremacy is greedy. It's a liar. It's a distraction is jealous ale. <hes> it was all your time. It wants you to be focused on it and when you do that you don't get to focus on yourself. You don't get to freedom dream because you so busy being having to react to the the violence is coming coming at you every day. I think about it a lot. In terms like i see it a lot in culture right when certain piece of culture comes out that is difficult difficult for black people and for some people the responses will what if what happens when white people see this. I think for a lot about precious right fantastic movie. I loved it. I beg to disagree that's fair. I loved it. I i watched it. I loved it. I liked it and i remember coming out and white black people saying some people saying what are why people going to say when they see you know this black woman with a bucket of chicken running on that that she stole run announced my i did not watch the movie with white glasses thinking about what will white people say when they see these things <hes> and i see that a lot of people saying you know what about and that is weights premacy colonizing. That's your mind as you have ablaze. They don't even the white people for white supremacy anymore right right but but you know now i'm going to play devil's advocate. I guess again don't need dom plan eh bodies advocate <hes> this idea the way gays is actually though will a reaction to violence right so it's not about what white people think about what they do with their thoughts so if you know it was illegal google for you to look somebody in the eye and push off a sidewalk you know if you could be gang raped and then people say well that didn't actually happen you know mhm <hes> what those people what went through their mind and how they regarded you. It seems as if that would be part of what you want vanquished so i'm not saying that deferring ferring to the white gays works. I'm just saying it doesn't come from a place totally. We're we're so insecure and we why people are so great and just we have a sense of history. We'd know what happens so there's a perception at either justifiable absolutely a justifiable fear. <hes> i want us to get to a a modern place where we can consume at least art culture without the white gays being the filter and and and that fears justifiable absolutely but i wanted to just can can we go to the movies. It'd be free and enjoy the movie without worrying about what why people are gonna say. Jamila jamila writes about that in her a sort of a speculative fiction piece <hes> and so it starts from the future in the narrators telling l. ing folks parts of what happened to get free but won't tell oh sorry but one of the tools are one of the things that you know black box had surpassed surpassed in her future was don't embarrass me in front of these white folks. She actually made an acronym. I don't want to mess it up but you know she made an acronym around this the other day i was talking to my mother and my mother keeps selectively reading parts and so she's like don't embarrass me in front of those white book she was like i just i felt thanks so much to now is just like yeah because you know that is built into our culture. It is this idea you know suspect ability politics wanna one so i agree with you. You know in terms of consumer culture in art. <hes> i just wanna make sure at. I don't want us to be pie in the sky the mhm <hes> about it would want us to be pie-in-the-sky but with an understanding of how we got to this point right what the historical underpinning is but also also want us to say fuck that history and really for real leave all of that behind and think about what we want ultimately which is to live without the violence violence of the white gays <hes> violence of the white gays. That's why i loved django unchained because i felt like the the subtext of the movie was the throwing off off the white gays right that that that when he throws off the blanket in the beginning he has this removed it and he moves through the film with this body language that it's a constant running joke like he rides into town on a horse looking beautiful body audie language and everyone's shocked because they're not used to seeing that right and even at the end <hes> when they open the prison door the other ones don't leave leave because they have not been freed in their minds whereas he's figuring out how can i trick you and shoot you and kill you and get out of here 'cause he's so free and he's like. I should not be slave where they're still stuck in an older mindset of leg. This is who we are and also stuck by their same fear that it gave with mentioned right lang. If i even look look like i was looking at the door before i got whipped okay <hes> <hes> <hes> shade as resistance. Yes berg through toby about that. That is <hes> that's part of a sense of self you know it's part of a a light touch which is part of you know showing who you are <hes> and it again. I mean there's cleverness. I think there's almost like a tricks. Tourism shade shade right because you are existing again in a room and you are not necessarily announcing it but your air lets. It's people know that you're firmly within your your space in your two feet in that they shouldn't fuck with you and so i think shade is you know and a lot of people sort of play at shea like they make an a comedy but some of the best resistance i've ever seen is is in shade so if you say a. what was that we were we were at a <hes> a book event and somebody mentioned that a presidential candidate had been brought to you know his store and i won't name the person and we were like oh how was it and he was like that's all he said. <hes> and everybody knew everybody knew exactly then. He said i said they visited. I didn't say i brought her or him. Ah immer her her yeah them. A person. Uh-huh talking about cuba's shade is resistant kamla. How not talking about anybody the <hes> where where in this is prison abolition police abolition or at least significant reform. I feel like we're not really going to be begin. The real road to freedom without significant significant wealth acquisition and the end of the war on drugs right which is damaging and destroying so many black and brown lives <hes>. Where's where's. Where's that in in in all this. I mean i definitely think that it's essential in that those systems number one aside ed from subjugating people <hes> they also suck resources from other things you know the the new york times magazine profile ruth gillmore at thousand so great because she talks you know about number one this idea of incarceration keeping people safe rather than a generator jobs is ally you know this idea even of land possession and how you know because you know rural farmers or you know folks have been dispossessed dispossessed because of the global economy etc etc and so they need a new growth mechanism and it's a prison and so you know if if you focused once again and and you think that do know incarcerating people over policing and all these all these things make hugh safer number one they don't and then number two i mean of course there are huge huge draw in their traumatic. I mean again living in the specter durer of police violence in of being locked up. I'm forty four years old. <hes> i'll go to a store. If i pick up a small mall adam. I still like walking around with the item up in the hair. <hes> you know because i'm like i don't know like somebody could blind something. I don't know what somebody's he's gonna do and then. I'm ended up pinned on the floor and so you know that's part of. I think it's like a terroristic form. You know psychological article warfare on top of his warfare. What do you want folks who are listening to this. Who read this. What do you want them to do in terms of yes you're you're already combating white supremacy in your own way in your life. But what more do you want them to do if they haven't currently been being really intentional about it. What a sort of a takeaway of like how you can be part of intentionally combating white supremacy. I mean i we spoke to a bit. I mean we want them to take that breath into do their freedom dreaming figure out what it is that they really want us to work tour because if you can't ambition and you can get there <hes> we want them to really figure out what their specific intentional way is so you know while yes we talk about. They're getting up in the morning is a thing right is an active resistance. You know how does it look like taking a leadership role in p. T. a. and your kids go system so that you can make sure that the boundaries that are drawn do not leave out kids of color because they're worried about it bringing down your test scores. Does it look like you <hes> you know before working with the hiring department at your jobs and make sure that you're not just doing in diversity talk but that you're actually bringing in people and empowering them and paying them what they deserve and supporting them with an entire system allows them to be able to do their work. <hes> looking get very specific things that you can do right where you are right because that's what's really important to us and you know as i was saying we did this ella baker lecture last night and you know one of her bake things with meeting people where they are bickering out which you can do as basics you stand in and i think that's a really key thing that we want readers to do is figure out concrete things they can can do where they are. They will help us to push back the system because when it automatically comes down with us fighting for our liberation our humanity and our dignity and what can needed thanks to a keyboard and ken ria korea for a great interview and thank you for listening tori show gives you fuel to power your dreams because you can use your dreams like rocketship to blast you into a life. You never imagined you can make your dreams a reality and this show can help. I'm on twitter at tora on instagram toray. Show please leave review. It helps going again again. Thanks to akiba and can refer a great interview and thanks to you for listening to ratio gives you fuel to power your dreams because you can use your dreams like a rocket ship to blast asked you into a life. You never imagined you can make your dreams a reality and this show can help. I'm on twitter at taurean on instagram at tora. Show please leave review. 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ICYMI: Tokyo tour of gadget oddities

Talking Tech

05:32 min | 2 years ago

ICYMI: Tokyo tour of gadget oddities

"Talking tech is brought to you by wicks dot com. With wicks, you can use artificial design intelligence to create a stunning website right from your phone in five minutes or less. Just go to wicks dot com. That's w. i. x. dot com. And create your professional website today. Hello, talking tech listeners. I'm back from my weekend, Japan and Batt on the podcasting beat think thank you to go when my Snyder enriched in euro for filling in for me while I was gone and speaking of that trip to Japan, I'd like to tell everyone about some of the more unusual as well as useful tech innovations that I saw during my travels. Let's start with something that every one of you would want a battery charger. First smartphone did, does it have to be charged before you can use it now we've all been there. We've run at a juice while we're out and about on our travels. We could spend twenty to fifty dollars for an external battery brick that connects to the smartphone. If we were smart enough to charge it up and take it before we left or in the case, Japan just slip into a seven eleven store and pick up one of these twenty dollar chargers that goes way further. There are already stocked with four AA batteries. Now you could get more power from one of the bricks, but you have to recharge it again before you use it in Japan. There's a seven, eleven on seemingly every block in the city's. So access to external power is now available to everyone and so readily available for IOS or Android. So that falls into the useful category in the strange weird and maybe who knows category, two products that caught my eye from Panasonic. There's the battery powered leg air massager for the woman at work to where stylishly as a dress accessory and a cone of silence type contraption that knocks out other sounds and sights while at work more on that in a minute. Let's start with the leg massager. It's pink contraption that attach the both legs and the. A remote. You can now massage twelve parts of your feet and legs. It sells for around four hundred bucks for big spenders. You could pick up a button massager for eight hundred dollars. Now these products are currently only sold in Japan and Malaysia, but if interested listeners could pick up a used version on EBay, more interesting is this crazy quiet cone that attach is to your head. It's called wear space. It's a prototype for a product that might eventually come out the ideas, the blackout noise and more from your co workers. It's a use shape fabric that wraps around your face over some headphones, the phones block out the noise and the fabric blocks out what your co workers are doing. No pricing has been announced, but I can tell you this. I like wearing headphones, but not all day. I'm good for maybe a half hour and hour tops. I can't imagine wearing this. You show. Fabric for very long, eight hours a day. I don't think so. Now, meanwhile, you've probably heard me say the Japanese electric shops are some amazing places, a geeks, paradise, and their way larger than the ones we have back home with floor after floor of everything from cameras, phones and TV's two toilets, lighting and toys beyond what's new, what's really cool is how these stores are so large, they don't get rid of old products. You wanna fax machine. I can find you a whole lot of them. Many models at the iota Bashi Akiba shop. That's the world's biggest electron store. Remember many Devi camcorders while I haven't used once since two thousand and ten, but the store has several blank mini Devi cassettes available for sale. And after navigating eight floors of tech goods at Yoda Bashi going up all those escalators you know, that lake massager sounds kinda cool. After all, I'm Jefferson Graham with USA that you can check out my video report Abed visiting Yoda Bashi and doing the Tokyo should Buick scramble on my YouTube channel. 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Rob and Akiva Need a Podcast #35: Too Beloved

Rob Has a Podcast

1:42:36 hr | 1 year ago

Rob and Akiva Need a Podcast #35: Too Beloved

"This week's edition of Robin Akiba Nita podcast is sponsored by friends over at truecar. Every car comes with sheriff stories like that thing in your bumper. When you nervous picked up a first date that luxury pag for big promotion or the mileage, you save riding your bike all summer long. Now while you can't put a price tag on your stories now with truecar you can at least find out what your car is worth when it's time to sell it or to trade it in just go to truecar and simply Andrew, your license plate number and watch your car's details, just pop up, then answer few questions. Navigation moon roof watches. They're going to bump off your car's value. High mileage already knew it was gonna cost you, but now, you know how much it's going to be your wallet. So you can plan ahead and once you're finished, she'll get a true cash offer Centene minutes, which you can take to a local certified dealer to cash out or to trade in, and you're ready to experience new way to sell or trade in your car. Check out truecar today. True. Cash offer not available in all areas. Jeeva needle. Is a right, Robin, Akiva, need a podcast, as we are back after it's been about ten days since Keven, I got together. But here we are to talk about some of your most beloved things, and see if we can find fault along the way. Of course, my co host, he's a man who you've heard on many podcasts before, including the Seinfeld Poche show recap. And the co host of the thirty two fans podcast joining us here and soon to be celebrating our five year anniversary of podcasting together, the great Akiva, Winokur. What do you get? I forgot about that the five year anniversary. What do you get your co podcast there for five years Costco, gift card? Both of us give each other a kosco gift card. Yes. Yes. Okay. I mean, doesn't that do can't we just like just give by something Costco? And it's from me and vice versa like cards on the list. Give gift cards on the list. We almost saying taco. Yeah. That is true. I, I don't know. Maybe like give each other king cake, baby merge. I'm not sure congratulations to the king cake babies signature team of the New Orleans Saints. For landing the number one, pick in the NBA draft lottery. Some are calling it the Rene bump. Yeah. I do think we had something to do with it. They still have not sent us emerge. I'm sort of like on the fence of whether we should really stay. And they're getting hot Zion. Yeah. They're getting Cy on. I don't know. I we do need to send them they wants that we didn't ask for merch. But once they said, like, hey, we're sending stuff. They got they got to send it who said that one of their some one of their employees, a friend of a listener, and they said, we're going to send you a bunch of stuff could be nothing. Okay. All right. So you and I last recorded ten days ago banter cast to sort of a came and went without much to do. I think people nobody hated it. But I so far with the sequels we've gotten marry sponsor right with the other sequels. We did the days like one day in the life sequel, whatever is may twenty second ninety eight. Right, right. Maybe we shouldn't go back to the sequel, well, I don't know. We've got being wills Baldi, it's gotta have hype. And I think it needs a guest. That's I think what is seeing guests may be because I think that the furious, they'd right like they were even like the first sequels were met the rock. So is the rock a sequel Viagra? They call him. And then re going relieve, who me. Yeah. What do you mean you we like turn away from the microphone? Oh, I threw my phone. Yeah. And then, like smashed into my computer, I my phone and my laptop. It was like here. And I realize, like, oh, it's going to ring into the mic like turn around it. And now I think I'm out of laptop and I phone. Oh, well, okay. All right. Well, I don't want to spend too much time on the setup here today because I am ready to get right into ripping on all of people's favorite things that were submitted by the listeners because let me just say on key. I have been with my children, the entire day today. And I am in no mood. I am not a happy guy. I been with my kids since the morning and there was T-ball today, and that entails. And this usually ends up with me being the T-ball agai when my wife works. And so this usually starts with my wife coming home from work in the morning, she works overnight, and she goes on for work in the morning, and then we can't find the uniform and that sends her into a real tail spin, and we spend a good our tearing the house apart because my kid loses a dif- different piece of his uniform before each week softball game shore, T-ball ball game, yet, which has nothing to do with me in terms of getting it together. But then somehow on Saturday morning that I am really on the receiving end of some sort of a wild goose chase of involving the uniform and then. And you know, getting both my kids out the door to go to T-ball. Nobody's listening and people are taking their shoes off trying to get to the car. And then today on top of it on top of T-ball was it was the last day. And so the coach had pizza party at a place to go to with it on top of T-ball, second location, yet, goes location. Yeah. Pizza party get the trophy, which I was told would be I and it was not. It was question. Yes. Because you send me a picture. You said, I'm at a pizza party. I thought it was a little weird. Your kids were not there. You're just went to a random little league pizza party. Yeah. Picture. I say, your, your son is in the picture. They're all wearing. Medals famous baseball prize of a metal. Yeah. Now I have to ask you live in Los Angeles in the year. Twenty nineteen are these participation medals or did they win the league championship. Rob. Not only are they participation. Medals. They were a precursor to getting participation trophies vows why I had to go to the pizza party. Got medals and trophies. Did they win anything? No. Were. No nobody wanted to know if they kept scoring the game's. Oh, I had to wait out the hour long pizza party, the participation trophy kief now, this will mean nothing to anybody because nobody sees this picture. We're not gonna share it because it has people's kids. There's like a weird looking beverage in the middle that looks like beer, but I'm assuming you didn't feed like no fear. What was for some of the parents that was because there is beer in the middle table. I'm not crazy. They did get a pitcher of beer. I was like, why is the ice tea so foamy then because it's at the state, it was, there was a picture of year at the little pizza. And also, a lot of the parents are wearing cubs outfits, like today by cubs gear, and I would hope that you as Mets fan. Sure. Where? Any good Gail ya? I think it's like the coach's wife and then a couple of years system coaches cubs gear. Okay. So it was very conflicting for my son, who there is a team that is the Mets. They played them. And my son said that he hoped his team lost when real bad. My son is a troll. And he says he likes the Yankees when he wants. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got one of those two. Okay. All right. So I am turned to all the I have to say I've come home. I've eaten lunch drinking, some t- talking uncle Keaveney. I have to say, I am much more calm than I was say, forty five minutes ago. Okay. So how do we do this? I will say Jess sterling the betrothed just thrilling betrothed means engaged, right? Yeah. The didn't amazing job for the second straight week, we sort of nominated her without her permission. To be our assistant and put together listener, submissions. And she did, so, and we got almost two hundred submissions she sent half of them to me, half them to you. And I wonder what comes up on the wheel this week, by the way, that we could sort of put her to work again. So my question is, are we going to are we what we're doing if people don't know, we're doing in two beloved is knocking things down that have a hundred percent approval rating, or just wildly popular, and we think that they should be. We're gonna we're gonna hate on them. And I thought we would cancel them. Right. I thought that was sort of what we discussed. But DJ Lebel Klein writes in and says, you guys promise not to cancel anything in the stand tournament. Right. We said for one year. We could not do a podcast called Robin, Akiva. Cancel stuff. Yeah. Now do you have the same categories that I have? I have no idea. I don't know. I she sent me half and you have I think she just split them evenly. Mike categories are food animals podcast stuff books sports and miscellaneous or those categories Mike categories are movies shows and celebrities, also, maybe she thinks that I'm more of a movie TV and celebrity guy and that you wouldn't be able to knock them. And then I you're gonna have to be the one reading on food, because no, I think we can do it because I don't think it's fair that you should necessarily be the movie guy, and I should be the food guy. But I think what we should do is. I can just give you one. And then for mine, you pick the number from one to twenty and then that'll be what I, we'll have to talk about. Okay, makes sense. Okay. Yes. Sure. Okay. All right. So I guess what category would you like to start in? Surprise me. Okay. All right. Let's start with. Sort celebrities. Let's go a little bit off of the beaten path. I feel like that movies and TV shows are things that we talk about a lot, so Keiv. You pick a number between one and twenty seven fourteen of course, number fourteen. Okay. Ellen. I'll tell you my problem with Ellen people like our show. Her proving she's a perfect person for this list, because she has an incredibly high approval rating. I don't know if everyone on earth is like an Ellen superfan, but she has very few detractors right? However, you hear that behind the scenes she is really, really mean that's what everyone says, bright. You don't get to be as big as she is without, you know, without having some bodies in your closet. So I knew a girl, one time this is anecdotal hearsay story. So take it with many, many grains of salt. And she had said that she had worked on the Ellen g I remember if she said is a long time ago with either she worked at the Ellen show, or that she had a friend who worked at the Ellen show, and there was a rule. You are not allowed to make icon ttacked with Allen. I get it. I mean, they, they said the same thing about Tom Cruise on his movies. I think you'll be fired, if even like go near him. Yeah. I don't think that's the case certainly at the at the if your name is on the show. You have the power to do that. Probably in any show in Hollywood. Right. If Jimmy Kimmel who I assume would never have the rule said you weren't allowed to make contact with him like you wouldn't be allowed to make on with Jimmy Kimmel. Yeah. They I think women in particular are predisposed, you, you know, you hear that about more female celebrities than men, but I but they're just so many stories that they can't all be fake. Right. The, the Ellen story. I wouldn't think so. Also, just to build on that. I don't think it's only you are making the case. I think we can pile is Robin, Robin, Akiva, go after your favorites or what's the name of this? I think it's just too beloved unless you have a better also Ellen has been very much a ally of the Kardashians over the years and has done a lot to prop up the Kardashian podcast, though, we haven't really stabbed that. I mean, I think it's a su-. Are you pro Kardashian, I I'd say I met them. I don't hate them. I respect the hustle spec. The gripped I don't hate them. But I don't I about, like I've never seen their show like I'm not a credentialing fan. I could name them. Yeah. I mean, I'm not a noted Kardam incur, dashing guy. Yeah. They're, they're fine. But overall I think that they've done more harm than good. Probably probably true. I think they're net negative the Kardashians. I know Kim Kardashian has done some admirable things in terms of moving the needle on social Justice reform recently. So maybe you could hold out some hope. But I think that overall, the Kardashians have destroyed more than they have created. That's probably true. Yeah. They like the Narus. Are they are they like, all right? They were good. But now it's like they were they did. When were they good if anything? They're like sort of like a Jamie, Lancaster of they were really evil. And then maybe there's some hope for redemption. Perhaps, not as say something that real is, like, all, there's probably at least one person listening, who's dying the game of thrones. Let's not let's not do that. Okay. All right. Anything else on on the L in front of we taken Ellen down a Pell cancelled. We're, I mean, we can't say the c word but she's done. Okay. All right. All right. Keiv. Shoe? Why don't you pick a number from one to twenty seven for me? Pick a number for you. Yes. And we're still waiting to. Yeah. Let's stay say celebrities for three three. All right, babe. Oh, well, this is unfortunate. Casey Kasem, no is Casey case it. Well, I mean Casey Kasem was the was the person who really a got mixed up with somebody who seems to have been out for just his money and appears to have been swindled by, by a woman who he may have married for maybe her physical attributes and then she turned out to be a person who drove a wedge between him and his family to the point that it's a horrible story. Yeah. He was supposedly a good guy. He was very into like the environment and he was vegan. He loved animals. I do think as we get older warned awful lot. Yes, you hear more of these stories. I it seems very tricky the second marriage the late in life marriage, especially for someone of me. Yeah, it seems. So tricky, because I do think that the if it's not in a like a man woman, sort of, especially if the man's a celebrity like you guys, older, you don't wanna be the original kid's. Right. You want to be the new kids, or, or sometimes in this case, I think, the, the second wife didn't have kids, and those kids, always get thrown by the wayside. You know, right starts usually inherited. They usually inherit like zero dollars there. You know, it's like a lot of times the, the spouses is, you know, really like cuts everyone out of their life. It's what's the an Craig Sager, though? The best ball. Now wore the funny suits. Same same thing there where like the kids are barely part of the oldest time. Yeah. Yeah. Fell said story really ripping on Casey, they're really, you know, I mean other than maybe marrying you know someone who wasn't ideal. Yeah. I don't know what you did. Wrong doesn't get talked about a lot case cases. I think also was a little bit of like what we're talking about with Ellen. There are definitely some outtakes on YouTube, that you can find of him Jess destroying people who either gave him notes with, like errors on them and him, just like ripping into people might have been not the most fun person to always work with a big Ralph Nader guy. Oh, was he? Yeah. Big Ralph Nader. Okay. All right. Keep one stay on celebrity. Let's see two more celebrities. And then we'll move on. Okay. Gimme another number from okay? Kim spradlin. Let's not do survivor. Let's pick some okay, this -vivor survivor free free zone. Yeah. Okay. All right. All right. Have another one. Can I just say, also not only digest put these list together split them in half and send us each of them? She wrote down who submitted them. Okay. Which was completely unnecessary, but I- pre sheet it. Yeah. Okay. All right. Okay. Number twenty three number twenty three George Clooney. Okay, I'll be the first of all Clooney already had like the best life of anybody on earth. And then he sold his stupid alcohol business for a billion dollars that nothing for. Yeah. It's like why can't you know why to good things have to happen to people who already like are beyond set for a million generations? Yeah. Well, I think that there is some room to work here in the IMD bags aspect of George Clooney. You're not a big fan of the peacemaker. I mean take a look at the filmography and is much do about nothing especially in these last ten years he had a good. Late nineties, I ten years of this decade but I mean first off that he this spread so stuff is showing up on his IMDB. What a lot of celebrities. It's to George Clooney is too big to do a commercial in the United States rights, right? They go to Europe or they go to Asia, and they do commercials there. And for some reason that doesn't hurt their q rating. Right. So we're looking first of he hasn't been in a film, in a couple of years. Well, why if you were a trillionaire, why would you do a movie? That's like being among sounds really boring. One of his last movie was hail Caesar, which was panned worst. Coen brothers movie, basically. Yes, he appeared in the Netflix special, very merry Christmas in twenty fifteen Tomorrowland. I don't even know what it is other than a ride. I think I think it was another bomb that was for Disney monument, men so much Espresso th stuff, gravity was the last relevant commercials in separate sort of thing I've ever seen anybody's commercials ever show up on. If you're like, oh struggling actor. You want the commercials there because. Espresso must be tapped into I am. We get them on George Clooney's, and then I don't know, bef- latest movie, a couple years goes money monster. Who I am? He's just friends with Jodie Foster and she directed it. And so he showed up for a few weeks out. So that wasn't good. You're right. The, the sentence was the Hawaii movie. That was that was really bad, right? Yeah. I to March nobody saw the American. Nobody saw. Wow. The minister coats not there was really good. But that's already ten years ago at this point he's on a historic slump. In terms of the letter was the really bad movie directed from Jim from the office, at least is about that he was going to run for president or something. But I'll pass so he's other than the oceans movies. He's up in the areas and Michael Clayton which was fine. Good night. And good luck, Syrian ah. That's really his whole stretch e r it was a pa-. I don't know why. But I watched the show sisters. Yeah. Which is a very if you look at the time line, like I was ten years old. I never watched a soap opera my life but it was basically a late. It was the primetime soap opera with like ceelo award. All these women who were just sisters, and I it was, I was like, not the target demo is probably the single young person watching. But I watched it every week. I have no idea. Why and then Clooney got killed in a car bomb in that in that show. That's how they wrote him off when he wanted to become a movie star. They killed him off in a car, or maybe it went to. You know, we don't really get into talking about people's looks, but the twenty nineteen George Clooney might be a little overrated in the looks department also. I mean as out kings coverage with the wife, that's for sure. Okay. All right. So like he lives in Italy. I hate when these stars like they get to big. They leave the country like, Donna. Did you know what I mean? Right. They hear you're from Kentucky. You should have to live in Kentucky, a TV miniseries. Coming up later on this year. Catch twenty two I think, I think it got marr- reviews it just started what is it on? Is it Netflix, maybe Hulu? Oh my God who many series clues fall into Hulu. He doesn't even knew down feel but now he's now we feel bad. We take George. Give me one more from one to twenty seven. Twenty seven twenty-seven. Jennifer Lawrence take her down a peg. I boy that's tough one. She seems like a like a fine person Jennifer Lawrence. I don't know how much negative say, but if we're going to look at her MD first Schrader that that's got to be one of those combined. The mom's maiden name with dad's name right? Yeah. I mean away. That's by the way, I told him Azzaro hope is not getting mad at us because at the second straight person were knocking from his native Louisville Kentucky for Lawrence. And what are they doing in Louisville that all the actors are coming from there? I don't know. Maybe Antonio knows maybe that could be part of conspiracy to why reactors coming from Kentucky. Oh, Jennifer Lawrence. I mean, we're going to look at her filmography I, I mean, the hunger games that have legs. No, no. I don't think so. I don't think so. I also those in the hunger games and twilight. So maybe the hunger games twilight didn't maybe I caught silver linings playbook. But if someone told me in twenty thousand nine they were watching it, I think they'd hold their head, right? So in terms of like her acting career of feel like that she's peaking around twenty twelve twenty thirteen silver, linings, playbook, American hustle, and really since then she's involved in X gain, or extra X men movies. Yeah. Hunger games movies. She did like the horrible mother, which was like only win. And so that's why she was in it. Yeah. Sparrow. Which was I don't think that was a bomb. Yes. And Elizabeth homes. Are you familiar with the Elizabeth home stuff? No, I have no idea. So Elizabeth homes is a biotech. She's almost like the fire festival guy. But like if he was really smart and did like, like medical technology instead of music festivals. Yeah, so they had. So they had this thing, and it didn't end up working. And so she like went from being a billionaires to sort of being disgraced this Elizabeth homes, those book about are called, I think, theranos, which is the neighbor company and put the weird thing about her is that she has a fake voice. Can you play while I'm talking? Can you play a little bit of, of Elizabeth homes as voice? Okay. Tube and just do Elizabeth homes. And a lot of people think it's fake voice, but it is you've never heard of this. But Jennifer Lawrence is probably the person to do it. So even though we're cancelling her right now. I can't say the seaward do think she. Yeah. Yeah. She probably would win an Oscar for a little. Here's Elizabeth homes in two thousand fifteen. Yeah. Let's talk then they fight you. And then all the sudden you change the world and I, I have to say, I, I personally would shocked to see that the journal would publish something like this when we had sent them. But what is this bit homes? She was she was like a tech choose the COO of this, like medical tech the medical. Getting company, theranos, okay. That did like blood testing now of voice, the only things everyone says it's fake like a real life. She's got. That's not a real voice. Okay. Another thing about Jennifer Lawrence that I think a lot of people just like her because she seems like she gets like sloppy drunk places, and I think the people find that relate does get sloppy drunk plays. Yeah. So I don't know why that the surly and she trips a lot, she gets drunk and she falls down, but whatever reason she's made that work for her, her shtick, as being relatable, actually. I do know what I really don't like better. I hate all celebrities that are not on social media at all. Like the people, I car who maybe like became famous a year or two before Twitter Instagram took off. Yeah. No, you're not too big. She's not on Twitter. She's on Instagram. I on a Facebook like you should have to be like you have to be one of us, you have to be on one of these plateau show relatable, I thought she has to be on social media. I know but she's to favors. She doesn't need it. Same thing with Clooney. Yeah. You come with the, I've often said the opposite, which is if you're a billionaire, you shouldn't be tweeting, but you should let us tweet at you like, well you should let us still. Yeah. Like lettuce Twitter. Yes. Only tweet, like, hey, I'm going to be on like Fallon tonight, and I haven't tweeted since twenty sixteen but you have to at least have an account. So, like the angry egg, people can yell at you. All right. Let's hear one of your categories cave. All right. Are we talking about food today? I think we have to, but I believe me, I can go go on and on. And on about tell you what I don't like about certain votes. All right. So let's do to food categories pick a number. All right from one from one to what sixteen Sweet Sixteen. All right. I will go with number fourteen. All right. Or. Yeah. Look, I like fo-. Okay. I think it's his our gripe is, nobody knows how to pronounce it. Nobody knows how to pronounce it. And then all of these Vietnamese restaurants, get get a little too cute with all of the names of, like so. So Fokin good. They get really teeter on the edge. You don't know how to say it and we get a barrister thing to say to your server also four. Four two so Fokin. Good. Like that's a bear saying the names of the restaurant. Oh, that's even worse. Yeah. So I mean these these places that they do have a ton of puns and they're all. She knows them really teeter on the line. Yeah. That is wild. Here's a BuzzFeed article. Sixteen Vietnamese restaurants, obsessed with puns simply fo you phone nominal fo- ever forever. Yum, nine to one say every one of these restaurants is owned by a white personal. Absolutely. Phobia lists. Forage phone nominal. Yes. To faux pas in the same restaurant is a folk. Gettable. Bun MI foes show? Good fo you foc- focusing way. So. So good. I'm out on phone now. It noodle soup where we're fans. Yeah, it's definitely a top twenty five soup. Yeah. Get out of here and don't put trip. Hala Pinos in it. Stop it. I don't wanna jalapeno in my soup get out of here. I'm just gonna throw in the garbage and sometimes too many sprouts. How many suppress during a net? They have zero war sprouts. Right. Like they don't make it taste bad. But they don't add anything. Yeah. Okay. All right. Have you had fo fo were but yeah, but it's hard. There's not a lot of kosher. Zo moshe. Oh, sure. Oh boy. I think show would be fake kosher at four Forcier would be like ph. No, kosher, Vietnamese food. Geez. Not a lot of kosher Vietnamese food to be fair when things. But who knows. Okay. All right. Kiva one to sixteen. Give you a number. Okay. How about fifteen juice? Is it actually worth the squeeze? Juice. Yes. Okay. Yeah. He said juice. Not jews. Yes. No. I got it. I got it juice. Yes. It is worth the squeeze. Well, here's the thing about juice. There's a lot of calories. And I don't know how much you're getting in terms of the nutrients of the, of the lot of sugar in a lot of juice marketed as it's healthy. It's juice, but one that it's a very high in calories and you juice in a restaurant in a diner, a glass, orange juice, five seventy five. It's annoying. It's annoying that Soza Linson weird that it's a kids thing because it's right? It's not healthy the same people who call soda yucky juice, and try convinced that would let their kids drink freakin schnapps before before tasting soda will gladly give them six. That's I don't know if Chester is allowed to have. His will have apple juice. But gladly give their kids, apple juice orange juice with breakfast. It doesn't make any sense. I'm a fat guy. I don't drink calories. Do I drink a leader of diet coke zero every day? Possibly I. But I would never drink apple juice oranges, that being said, what is the best juice? What are what is on your juice? Mount rushmore. Well, juice Rushmore has got to be apple juice, orange juice, then steep drop off after that, wait, hold on. Because you haven't even said my number one yet. What is it grape juice grape? Juice. Kadam grape juice. We have it every Friday night. Okay. Well, maybe it's number four, but I think that's probably cranberries in there, too. Yes. So that's my four to I think it's cranberry grape apple orange. I think that's the locked in if this was a family mood survey, one hundred survey top one hundred on the board, name name, popular juice. It's like apple and orange have like forty two and then. Yeah. And then maybe you know, cranberry has five and grape has three but can I say that every apple juice is the exact same? Whereas the difference between Tropicana orange juice, and some junkie orange juice in between Narin shoes. So variance and apple. It's all the same. I don't there's no Tropicana for apple juice. That it's like oh, you gotta have that apple juice old, standing juice. There is a glass bottle. I don't know what it's called Tropicana, juices, is truly one of America's greatest product. You're pulp guy or no pulp? I hate pulp mino- pub guy. What about you? I like pulp but my wife you don't you know pulp. That's why we can't even have orange juice in the house will it's good. Because you could just get too arduous to worry about her dream, while you're under also stays more than a lot of drinks. Have it. In the fridge for Martinelli is the gold the gold standard of that applesauce Matz. I think also Mata. Yeah, that's the biggest one but I don't know if anyone's like you gotta have the if you're a hipster, you want, the Martinelli, apple juice. That's true. That's ten people are going to tweet. Us with their beloved brand apertures go. One more food, one, because this isn't so painful for you. Gotta hate food. All right. Is it for me or for you? So I'll start off here. Just give me a number from one to sixteen but don't say too, because that's bacon. And I am number three. Peanut butter, it's weird. I have a lot of thoughts on peanut butter. Okay. You're like my mom has as early childhood school. Right. Obviously you're not allowed to bring peanut butter into the building. Right. Right. Well, that's I don't want to go after peanut butter on that again. But peanut butter is we didn't cancel it. No, it cancelled hate cancel it now now in countries like Israel, where they have bombo you familiar with Bomba. I am not kids, eat Bomba is, is a peanut snack. It's almost like cheese puffs, but instead of cheese puffs, it's like peanut puffs. And they eat them from like super young age. It's like the the baby snack. It's like I would need it. It's for little kids, and nobody has like the peanut allergies here. No weird. I guess, because they're building up there. They're building up their what's a call to it like early. Yeah we're gonna cancel this is too hot button. No. It's true. It was I read in the times on them. I'm not commenting on it. Okay. Anyway of. But my cousin is antifa. Lactic Lee allergic, I don't know if that if used properly to peanuts to the point, where like, we've got the pen but he could die. If I even have. It's very, very for the parents, that point is we've allowed and I guess, like it became popular, and then this happened, but it's weird that we've sort of such a mainstream food that can just kill people because they're like, on the airplane with it, you know. Yeah, I feel like we should just get rid of peanut butter, unless we could solve the peanut butter crisis. I'm knocking peanut butter, I should still be able to enjoy peanut butter in their own home. Yeah, if nobody's allergic, but it's I mean. He's allergic, I mean I was at a wedding with him. And like at big events like that. It's very, it's very hard not gonna willingly EP no putter, but like something happened. He's turning blue is very scary. You know that being said, I do love peanut butter. It's often a staple of mine. It is though, a lot of variance on the peanut butter and less sugar in the peanut butter, my lunch, Mark, 'cause we're taking our kids on, on a long grow trip tomorrow. So I think we're just making PB and J sandwiches for lunch. But I feel like that peanut butter shouldn't even be on the two beloved list. It's too controversial at this. This is like a smoking being on the two beloved list. Yeah. Right. And nineteen sixty I get it like what's wrong with smoking? Cancel is great cure curbs, your appetite. It makes you cool. Four out of five. Doctors say you should do it. What's the problem? Peanut butter has already been canceled not to belie-. I agree. Peanut butter has been cancelled. All right. What's, what's the next cat you wanted to movies or TV shows? Let's TV shows TV shows, okay? I'm looking for a number between one and twenty two. Seventeen seventeen for Keith anandas. The more cowbell skit on Saturday Night Live. First of all, I feel the only time we hear the word cowbell, right? Yeah. Like if you say the word cowboy it's the only thing you could possibly talking about is the else. Catch. Right. Also. I don't know. I mean I is it universally beloved I guess it is it's pretty beloved I could tell you some things about it. I mean one you know, Jimmy Fallon is this Jimmy Fallon Horatio Sanz in here and break the whole to break break the whole time. They're not even acting laughing onscreen, and so that's one of the reasons which some people would tell you is a little bit of a cheat in terms of how much they're cracking up the entire time, also Christopher walk in who has had many SNL appearances just like it's just like blatantly reads off the cue cards also that the sketch also ruined cowbell for all other like there's no there's no way that a cow bell can ever be heard, or mentioned ever, again, without referring to the blue Lyster Colt, by the way, you're SNL guy. Walk ins. You're saying reads, the cue cards, who was the number one all time, cue-card raider. And there is a correct answer the number one all time, q-car guests, I'm sure there's a lot of one time guest that reading it but someone who's been on a bunch of times. And always just reads the cards as if they've never learned. Is it Baldwin? Nope. No Lindsay Lohan. Lohan. Okay. Let's looks at the cue cards. She's not even looking at the purchase supposed to look at. It's wild. Yeah. I wouldn't describe Lindsay Lohan as the frequent SNL contributing, she's been, I think she's a five timer. Is she I let's see, I take should they would let her back tomorrow. Even though she's got nothing going on. Okay. At least four timers on the little timer. Still that's enough to have a Representative sample of just looking at the screen basically. Yeah. Okay. Lindsay Lohan host may one two thousand four twenty. A day, putting in her cameos? Well, I'm sure we'll get a billion emails, okay. All right. Keiv number four number four. You complain about this. Okay. Oh, a lot of people wrote to us about this, according to Justice notes here, then we're time she's hosted four times four times. Okay. So a lot of people have asked us to comment on this over the year. And that is the TV show friends. Okay. You and I have never held friends in a. Above beyond reproach, although we did have it, go, very far in our TV theme song bracket. And I think that we acknowledge its place in history in terms of friends as a show. I don't know if it necessarily where we have sort of, like ended up in this rivalry between friends and Seinfeld. Yeah. Assume that we hate it because we're Seinfeld. Guys, it is in the fishbowl. So we will at some point in the possibly distant future possibly next week. Talk about the show friends. Yes. Well, let me attack it from a different perspective. And this came up recently in one of my conversations with great. Jessica lease who wrote an article about the friends finale, and this might be an attack that is not frequently discussed, but just a lease talked about the fifteen years after the friends finale. What it got. Right. And what it got wrong, but. The finale, especially as we're talking about the game of thrones finale. All these other TV shows finale. Almost nobody talks about the friends finale, and I think that speaks to that how people got to it by the end of the show that there's almost. Your name a memorable thing that happened in the last five years of friends. Well, how about this 'cause I had a similar conversation this week. I actually asked a couple like IRL friends. Hey, what should we put on the beloved list? And somebody said friends, and we had just been talking about the game of thrones finale, so we actually talked about the friends finale, and it's weird because it's not on the breaking bad style best, finales lists, but it won't you won't ever see it on the Seinfeld sopranos worse finale ever, and it took me a long time. Remember anything about the friends finale and the whole plane thing. And then I remember something. The play and she got off the plane. Yeah. They went with very sentimental, mushy. Good. Guys win. Not exactly. Game of thrones style. No spoilers. I do think. Like people like it. I think friends fans really liked it people like us who were just sort of dropping by for the last few episodes, or but it speaks to would you rather have your finale, be passing and everybody? Nobody complains. Or would you rather take a big swing and be remembered forever? Yeah. My friend had a wild take, by the way. What was he said? I did like the friends finale. He was a friends fan. He said, the friends finale should have ended with them killing Ross. He was too evil of character to not die by the end. I was like, well to sitka. I'm like they don't kill those sitcoms kill off people in the finale. Yeah. Oh, mother. Spoilers. I haven't got there yet. Okay. I don't remember. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Anyways. That's on the list of bad. Fidelis like nowadays. Yeah. That would make the list huge. Tonelli's. Yeah. Judge I just covers for second. He's a big. How are your mother guy? Yeah. The last season went off thrills, not that I was ever really big fan of that show. But I think universally that last season considered garbage, they don't get to the end until the very end. I think it's very hard to nail the finale and stay on the air for a very long time. I think that if you could you could do like three seasons, and be the leftovers and nail the finale. But I think it's very hard to do nine seasons. In a solid finale? I don't think there's without getting into nitty gritty of game of thrones. I don't think there's anything that game thrones could've done to make the majority of their fan base. Hap- cow. Nothing. Yes. I think there was no scenario where they could've. They could've been happy. Did we get a report did Chester cry this past week? I don't think he cried. I think he's crying. I mean a thirty two fans WhatsApp group with Chester. I'm just a couple other like people. And it's normally just like very generic like, hey, is what we're doing the pockets as we like it's only a game of thrones group. Like, Chester is taken over every WhatsApp group with his game of thrones tank crazy. Like he's a madman, the mad keys the mad king of, of group, chat, just, just to put a period on the end of this friends criticisms. So I'm looking at a picture from the finale on this article that Jessica lease wrote, Monica and Chandler are each holding a baby. I could not tell you which friends character, the baby belong to did, Monica and Chandler have twins. Is that what had Dopp that the who knows who knows Paul Rudd is in the picture? What a what the hell is going on here? I don't use not in the last scene in. I don't know if he is, what is he brother or her boyfriend? I couldn't tell you and I was a big friends guy. And well, not clearly not that big if we don't know the answers to these questions. Stan, I haven't ever watched the show since it ended in two thousand and five and, and in fairness, I had a lot going on at that period in my life in the last year or two friend. I don't think I could tell tell you one friends of that happened after. Monica and Chandler got together. When we do the friends podcast, we're going to I think we need friends defender at some point, because I think we're just going to be where we might be too hard. I've got the guy Eric if you're listening. Okay. All right. Eric. He's one of our he that he wants to. He wants to do a friends a podcast Eric. Yes. He's gonna come on and defend friends for us that he's, he's we have a lot of people that want to come on and defend friends. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, there's no shortage of. All right. How about? I'll let me pick a category podcasts stuff. Okay. You don't wanna do another TV show. We got to keep what we could do. One more. Let me give you one number from one to twenty two eleven unless I said, I love and Frazier. It's not too beloved. We got to do something else gives us. Sixteen impractical jokers that belie. It's not even beloved, it's not too beloved or even ninety about. Yeah. Six six breaking bad. Okay. That's fine. Yeah, I got I gotta bring bed. Take. Okay. The finale. The bring bring bait is a cartoon I teed up doesn't listen, he'd be crying if you're this. Okay. The go on. Yeah. It's a cartoon it's very silly. It's so unrealistic. You got like I haven't seen it in a while. But you got like a machine gun, that's setup that's just shooting people into a house. Right. The game of thrones Maury realistic than the ring bed finale, it really absurd. So I've heard a theory that Walter white actually died. Well, he was in the cabin having the chemotherapy done to him. And sure should have ended there and the cat was all ADR. The finale was a dream because we've raised in breaking bad for every plan that Walter and Jesse ever had it always seems like it's about to go right? And then something goes wrong. This is the one time nothing went wrong in the plants. Yeah. It's an interesting. I think it's very silly that, you know, the good guys sorta win at the end knows that I want to spoil it in case someone's planning binging, breaking with a good guys. It's Darren Revell did a poll like the like, what's the best show. And then he narrowed it down to four shows they want to guess what? The four shows were breaking bad. This does. Men and why right off the list. Yeah. No, no madman. Wire. The wire. Yes. And the last one is not a drama. Seinfeld. Yes. Yes. Those four shows. And then they did it. He did a poll and bring bed one and one reason because that is the most recent of the four shows. Yeah. The metal madman was on the track to be on the mount Rushmore of visuals completely careened off the road. Yeah. Sorry. Chestnut say game of thrones could've stuck the landing and might have got there. It was never really considered the same level of prestige in wired sopranos. I will add the sopranos did not stick the landing. I know. But this problem is still on the prestige Alice. I know it was so good breaking bad. I think came the closest sticking the landing on the final season is great the last couple of scenes are absurd. That's really my gripe. What are you gonna do? Historically. It's a little overrated even the wire, I think is the people don't love the last season. Yes. No. The why didn't need to do a last season. I mean I I love season two of the wire I that's one of my favorite seasons. And obviously, that's considered with the possible Septimus and five of the worst. One. Okay. Are you having fun? Do you like this so far? Yeah I'm having fun. I'm having fun. I, I hope we're not going to people aren't we should a disclaimer of that. Hey, this came up on the wheel. You guys asked for this. We didn't ask me this you mean because we're knocking down people's faves and the offended. Okay takes too hot air coming in with these takes pot podcasts stuff, one through ten six two of these. Okay. Give me a number six. Season. Three episode seven spaces on the wheel. Oh, this is about this podcast. Yeah. This episode seven spaces on the wheel of this in terms of the actual season three episode seven being on the wheel or sees the whole aspect of season. Three episode seven we could. In that season. Three episode seven is beloved MAC, Geoghegan once upon a time said, hey, why don't you guys quit mixing around with the other ideas and just make the whole podcast season three episode seven that's the best idea, and you guys are just screwing it up. So that's been that that was that was a take. Somebody had, and I'll tell you what the season three episode seven is, I think people like the idea of season three episode seven but in practice I feel like that. Those have not been the most popular episodes. Why think what gets picked? Also, I like if friends that'll be one of our biggest episodes perfect strangers was very popular. But I think it depends on what, what comes out, you know, our shall we scraps three up seven I don't think so. I don't think so. But maybe, maybe it shouldn't go shut. You are buds person who we talk about the controversy of I should've versus the fake person. But the fake person who is not tweeted since then, but also has not made himself the unofficial Budman. Like we ask them to we don't like that. Okay. No, they have disobeyed a direct order and so should should it be season. Three episode seven is, is automatically as three spaces forever. Cannot get cannot ever balloon up to ten spaces like in the past. I don't know we'd have to ask you should. It's got four today. So we're already gonna violate that rule today. All right. So to should not. Because there's so many things that were excited about season. Seven is always coming around the corner. And if we're not as excited to get to the season three episode seven. Stuff. I mean, would you rather have season to reemphasized seven have three spots for attorney? Or would you rather have it have zero spots, right after it gets picked? But then we'll eventually balloon into a number where it will most guaranteed be picked. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like I think it's fine as it is for now. Okay for now. All right. All right. How about a another number for you Keith? How about number one? Number one. Yeah. Well, it's the cake, we already talked about. I mean something number two. Our AP the podcast is it to beloved. I don't know people say, interrupt a lot. I feel like they don't like that. I've heard that about you recently, you are an interrupt or, and you have defended that and said, but you have good things to say, yeah. I mean, I also I it's not even me interrupting you. I think they say when we have guests on them throw them. Notice. I'm not interrupting you today. Yeah. And also, like the, the joke with with the different strokes. I had to like jump over seven people to say that. This that sometimes that when we do these calls, and this is come up in the game show podcast that, yes, you may. You may not necessarily here that somebody else's talking when you jump in the connection isn't always as, as clear as it sounds on the podcast. Right. I could be a second behind, and it sounds like the routing really I'm not also. That's about a debate robbed, interrupt me. I can interrupt them. I don't mind it doesn't. It doesn't bother me. But for the listener, I can understand why they feel like that. It's it's rude to the guests. But it feels if you interrupt me whatever you feel. Do you remember the Conan O'Brien character, the interrupt because that's very funny? Come on and say it's me interrupt or. And he would interrupt and guests, the wrong thing is you should check it up on YouTube. The truth is about this with Chester, like a year ago. There is so much. No other late night show. Like, yes. Sometimes someone will send you a funny bit from court inner Kimmel or probably not from Fallon but. And it's like okay yeah, that's funny. And then you forget about it. There is like hundreds of hours of legitimate comedy gold from, from the heyday, of the Conan, show and NBC. There's so many great, you know, like Conan O'Brien hates, my homeland, where they were just like sort of what we're doing now just like Albania, and he'd have to say something bad about Obama in Belgium. And, you know, the triumph stuff like, really every night you were going. You were getting like one piece that was going to basically be amazing. Okay. Very underrated show. All right. Is it to beloved? No. Because I feel like it's been lost a time cone, and he is putting it on a website somewhere where you're gonna able to see it maybe did. But now quote O'Brien's podcast I don't know if it's too beloved but I'm going to knock that down the size. And I was kinda O'Brien in the TV show. I feel like I don't know. It seems like it's in no man's land on TBS famous. This point Conan on TBS. Also the mind way too big. Okay. Gimme gimme another podcast. Okay. Just keep going. Let's go down the whole list. Okay. Josh Winkler, stop it. Stop it Jesuit ller, I listened to your podcast with Josh and he was nervous that we would not the show lost. Now, if you do that people requesting him that would be much different. So how about instead of talking about Josh Wigley? Now, let me knock Josh. Wigley find do. Nice works too hard. Yeah. Yes, it works. We're works too hard makes too much. Time doesn't take enough care of himself because he's too busy creating content for the fans of he had no business. Podcasting with me about survivor with all the stuff that he's doing for game of thrones this season and still made the time to do it, and probably at the detriment of his own self health. I mean, I also think like it is crazy because he's built himself up to be like the lead guy for game of thrones which happens to be ending this week. And he's also like the journalists I survivor, which has be having like a pretty big week this week. And it's like I guess. You know he did too good of a job where now his, his beats are conflicting. It's like if you covered the Super Bowl, it was nothing. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he could have he could have been worse at his job. And then maybe would only have one beat, so that's might not be, where's your job? You won't have so many conflicts. Okay. What's next? Kiva sister Kayla. The wall yet Kayla. Weena ker. Well, I'll say that she, we brought her on to make fun of you. Kind of choke in that. It was like, all right. Here we go. All right. Let's let's Rippon Akiva, and she had nothing to say. Well, she said, she doesn't really know me 'cause she didn't grow with me, kind of fun. It was your other sister. That was yelling about Kayla that turned out to be the comedy gold. Yep. By the way, broken foot runs in the family. Eliana Weiner this week. My other sister who hates me actually doesn't hate me. But she's mean. Broker foot. Oh my God. While dancing, okay? Yeah. Kayla Winker turning eighteen I think in twelve days, I should not say that on the podcast, Mike blooms, baby might shut up Tim. Yeah. By the way, I will say, people love the name Asher. He named his baby Asher universally approval of one hundred percent approval rating on the baby name. However, if we could hate on my gloom for a second fifteen hundred likes on his freaking tweet that he had a baby with the picture of the baby. Yeah, I never tweet about my baby missing. Fifteen hundred likes nobody would especially like a fifth if fifth kid. How many likes if I posted a picture of the baby in the hospital? Hey, introducing why wouldn't even have the baby's name yet because it would be pre Bris or whatever. But like bridge reducing what should I v baby's name? Do you have a name for me? How about s- Willie? Winker. Boyer. Why had two girls two boys? I don't know what he thinks coming next. No one's pregnant don't get don't, don't get excited. Do you like Khalidi? All the people who made their chemical EC are scrambling right now aria failing. Are you safe? Well, we'll see. How about Chester? Okay. So Chester we Vic? Just throwing I assume in this scenario, he's dead Chester. Weena. Ker. How many and I post the picture how many likes them I getting. I think on Facebook on on what I'm Twitter, he got fifteen hundred likes on a tweet. How many followers? I have twenty five hundred Mike has. I think three times that. Okay. Maybe four times I Mike is exactly three times hours, twenty bro. Nice. Yeah. Schiffer gesta. We now if I name Chester we I think I am sort of pandering to get more likes on that tweet. Yeah. That might bummy up the six seven hundred for that tweet. I've never had a tweet do those numbers. It's possible. I would actually do this other thing about it. Okay. This is why the Robin, Akiva, name, a baby is so powerful you're going to get the sky like an amazing when he announces like the actual baby. Even if this guy has ten followers, he's gonna get so many likes on his on his tweet. It's going to be worth letting us name it. Okay. All right. Keiv leading let's, let's keep going. I think that we're the podcast category is petering out. Yeah. Let's it. That's, that's it. Anything that's too beloved. All right. So let's get back to movies, skeeve. Okay. All right. Let's do a movie. I also have a thirty eight miscellaneous things. I don't know if you've most miscellaneous all thirty I don't have. Miscellaneous category. Okay. So that's a big guy, so movies. Okay. Fine. Number one to twenty seven. Okay. Number seven this is not even the, the master of the skies. I mean, not a toy skewer it's Dana Carvey movie from like nineteen ninety two. Some people didn't get the assignment. Yeah. Okay. Keep going go. Let's go again eleven eleven citizen Kane. Now you've ever seen citizen. Kane ever seen it, it's weird. That it's the example of like if you were going to tell a joke on stage and you're like, well, you know this makes. Tommy boy makes the sandlot looks like citizen Kane that makes no sense. But why is it citizens Cain? Still eighty million years after citizen Kane came out, what could be the new citizen Kane. The new citizen Kane the what's like it should be like, Shawshank Redemption. I pull of. Of a great movie that the dark Knight rise, or whatever the, the heat ledger. Batman, I feel like that's the best movie. That that's the talk about what the highest regard. I thought that that was. If we're talking about, like a big blockbuster critically acclaimed ahead everything going for it. Okay. But I feel like the comic book movies, like even though that is a claim that people know we're talking about. All right. I'm not. Sure. And here. Let's just cherry pick your, let's, let's get out on the numbers. Okay. All right. So. This is an interesting one frozen and frozen yogurt kief in the movie county frozen and frozen euros in yogurt. Why got a big frozen problem? Yeah. I two daughters and the movie frozen comes out, and then they like it frozen sequel should have been two years later. It still hasn't happened yet. They really wherever the opposite of striking while the iron is hot is. That's what they've done. Yeah. You don't have any daughters. You don't realize how big of a deal frozen, it was like the biggest thing in parenting history. I get it. I get it in my, my kids didn't really love it. They weren't like over over the top. But, but I don't know like now my daughter's ten like she was a frozen. She thought she was on or else or whoever everyone is now like she probably wouldn't even watch it. And let you know she doesn't have one of my sons was super interested in watching, and I don't know if they've even seen the first one like she's not even gonna see the second one, they've aged out of their, their demo people already. It's crazy. Yeah. How about I think they'll want us the movie Rudy? Okay. Yeah. Rudy like first of all, the movie Rudy is actually really boring other than the football scenes. There's a lot of like dark scenes in like an alleyway of Notre Dame, and it's like, all right. I'm care. It's boring. The whole thing with the girlfriends, boring will the older people are boring. The football scenes are fine. He didn't do anything. Right. He plays plays like Rudy would be cool like the Wayne CRA bet story would be cool, where he's like a joke, and then he scores like eighty touchdowns in the NFL Rudy got on the field for a couple of plays like he. They were. They were like letting him be on the field. Rudy should be embarrassed. Yeah. And it's a boring movie. It's not a great football move. I know the last scene gets a lot of hype. Sean Astin Sean ask them. Yeah. And, and he's a hobbit to. Yeah. He's a hobbit but yeah, I feel like he doesn't get stopped as Rudy too much compared to the hobbit stuff like when he's walking on the street. Okay. What's in your miscellaneous category? I let me hit you with some big time miscellaneous ones. Some of these controversial Nelson from Denver. He always gets his questions answered weekends or weekends overrated. Yeah. Definitely hate the weekend, where two people both work on weekends. So the weekends mean nothing to us. Yeah, I know only I work on the weekend, but it's also the time that I have the most to do with my kids because my wife, also works the weekend. So it's, it's brutal. So for me, personally, it's not that fun. I mean Dr you jealous of the other week and people or does not interest you in general, even if you didn't work on the weekends. It seems nice like if you didn't have kids, I think the weekend seems good. But if you have kids, you know, I'd rather go to work every day. Yeah. I don't mind working seven days a week, like working like working too. So I would be fine if we did away with the weekend, also the things like a like during the week is fun. People are making podcasts and TV shows a lot of people take the weekends off for stuff. So you end up with on Saturday or Sunday, unless you listen to Robin, Akiva, Anita podcast or JP. You don't get a lot of new stuff coming out on the weekends. That's sure that's our niches. We come out nobody else's it has the late Saturday night. Demo van like we do. That's right. That's right. We got a couple of good ones here. Deanna says commitment. Hussein commitment is to below of it. Yeah. I don't know if it's beloved. Yeah, I don't think so you don't think it's beloved at all. Yeah. Commitment is. I don't know. According to be sustained up comedy, stand up comedy stand up comedy to beloved scene of comedy is hard, and it's I think it's getting harder to do stand up comedy because you come out there and you have to make strangers laugh, and I feel like that as the world becomes more and more fractured and niche that I think it's, it's harder to have a group of two hundred random people that are going to think the same things are funny. That's an interesting take. I will say, also Netflix, sort of popular stand up to a level. Maybe where it wasn't before. And two aren't a lot of good stamp comedians. Like I also think with the hour, which is what they make everyone do. Basically. Yeah. Not everyone is an Arab material. I think the optimal time for a stand up set is probably about thirty five minutes. A lot of these drag a lot of the ones that are good drag like Allie, wan's really good. But it's not good for an hour. They should only cut the forty minutes of it. Yeah. Jessil knicks. He keeps saying his last have you ever seen any of Jessil, Nick stand up hours? I seem on stand on last comic standing was familiar with him. I haven't seen any of his stand up shows, okay? So his first two albums, which were calling Shakespeare and collegue. You'll we're amazing. Because you didn't know what was going was sort of developing this evil character. Who wouldn't you know you think you would zig zag and then his his first Neff special thoughts and prayers was really good. And then his latest one, you could sorta really predict a lot of the jokes and also went to long. Yep. So I think it's his worst of his four, even though I like. Him. Mullany is really good Mullany. He's the only guy who was like his specials done. You're like man. I wish there was like twenty more minutes of it. I think the best guy going right now of the Sam comedians. Yeah. Michelle wolf was pretty good alley. Wong is really good. There. So there was another really good one Amy Schumer stinks. I have no idea. Why what I actually I really liked to show like, I don't even hate Amy Schumer. She's not a good comedian. Like she's not nearly at the level. It's bizarre like her stamp comedy is, is not good subjective. I think objectively hurts comedies bans. Stand up comedy specials are like for the fans of those stand up comedians, but I think that I think it's probably very hard for like the next generation of comics to come up and then build themselves up to a point where they have a following where they're recognizable and then have Netflix special. And also a lot of people who are, like, recognize where we started this off by ragging on Ellen, but like L Ellen ever do a full hour of comedy. I yes, I do think that she, you know, she, but she's actually a legitimate stamp Kameda, but some of the, like the other late night, people like Letterman Kimmel tells jokes he's never done stand up like Letterman. I don't think ever lease now. But if he did it was, like nineteen eighty two when he never released another one. The real standups like the Kevin hearts and the Jessil next. Those are people like would die if they weren't allowed to stand up for a night, you know. Yeah they against them. All right. And though so they'll give people who aren't like Kevin James like they give a lot of like, hey, he's famous. So we're gonna give him an hour like Steve Martin, but then junk. I don't know. Yeah. Okay, what else is in the miscellaneous category? The beach. Oh, I mean, who says the beaches to beloved, the beach stink? Sand awful. We're going to like we're going to like a summer type vacation. But we're renting out with a pool. I'm not going near the beach sand is the worst thing that world you take a kid to get sand. You'll be cleaning sand that of the kids ear for a month. Yeah. You can't get saying that kids at a kid's bodies. Not that great. It's not that great the beach Alex's New York City, can you complain about New York City? I mean. Is near city to beloved nobody ever complains that New York City. I feel like people even the people like it complain about it, right? What justices fireworks to me? If you've seen one thing if I were seeing every single one other than maybe Disney's, right? Fireworks is not great. Very very overrated. Every fireworks show, I feel exactly the same way that you feel about a stand up comedy special fifteen minutes too long. The idea. Fireworks is fallen, but they're loud, you just standing around. It's always like to go to a specific place to watch the fireworks, a lot of true like you end up against second traffic getting away from the fireworks and just waiting for the finale and it's just like, oh, let's just blow up all the fireworks. Yeah. No fireworks. And I was petrified of them as a kid. Plus, you've got the kids there. They go crazy. Forget it. The dogs. Oh my I was. The night. I got lost a couple of weeks ago last week when we were about to record fireworks going off, and every single dog for in, like a three mile radius, because it was completely quite other than the fireworks was barking at the same time, like like in concert, it was, it was like, Erie, Tara's children can children have one hundred ready to go and keep going. What's, what's next? Small talk from Andhra, this small talk is beloved. No, I don't think it's beloved. Lego by joss. Come on stepped on my wife came in here when she came on the podcast a couple of weeks ago you just chill. It's cherry pick stuff. That's this is cherry picking naps. Do you have anything wrong Julius naps? You have anything wrong with naps. You know, naps are pretty good heart. Poke a hole in naps. But it's I feel like it's you can't really talk about that. You're taking in half. I feel like that people really. Oh, okay. You take a nap have fun, be nice. Nice must be nice. Big one. If I ever taken a nap I can't tell my wife that I'm taking that. It's like I'm having an affair make up some other some fake story of what I'm doing. I used to live in a place. I was on the local Facebook group. Yeah. And like so moms would post, like, hey, I just defend when what's like, come come with us, like just inviting we're having like snacks in the park in the local park, if anyone wants to come like, you know, they'll be a lot of kids playing in and it's like two thirty whatever and the noon, it's like right after school. Okay. We're gonna have like a little birthday party and everyone's invited. And there's one mom who must be very envious, because she works to like eight o'clock at night, and she'll. She would post like must be nice as if like must be nice to not be working at two thirty. Yeah, just a wild move. Post must be nice. Yeah. No, that's very passive. Aggressive must be nice. Yeah. I think it's Greg, give aggressive aggressive. I how could that be misconstrued? Y'all says weddings, this is not a Winnick mind. For who for the people that are gay, Mary, or the getting married. It's a nightmare and their money's gone, and it shouldn't get married only get married on this podcast. Right. But going to weddings fun isn't likely my house, but I like going to weddings. I don't like going to weddings free food. I'm I'm not a big drinker. Why? Because you gotta give a gift. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know. I don't even I don't write the check my wife does. I never see to me, it's free. I see your friends, a lot of times if it's like a friend group. Wedding maybe people. Yes. So if you have friends if your friends, you should you should try it. Yeah. Yeah. I fun. Have you say so? All right. Josh do one more. We done more one more. I think we're, we're about done. Oh, let's the big one DisneyWorld Robbie. Disneyworld disneyworld. Is not beloved DisneyWorld. Disney World definitely is beloved you may not below out, but it is beloved it is hot. There are long lines, you wait around. You could take little kids, and they cry. You know seventy percent of the time that you're there, they don't wanna wait on lines. I mean if you could go on the day when everybody else's, you know home with. Some sort of. You know. I'll say cold. Okay, then fine. That's, that's great that the perfect day. But the problem with DisneyWorld is expensive and all the other people, I have been with my kids at DisneyWorld when it was not credited, which I think doesn't exist anymore. But, like four years ago it still existed. It is the light, when it's not crowded when it's not one hundred degrees, t dub had a great idea. And by great. I mean, I should have really brought this up on the, the big Tita episode. He wants DisneyWorld to triple their prices only he can go. It's like what his wildest takes? There was a viral tweet like a year ago, which basically said like there's a couple of classes in America. There is people who can't go to DisneyWorld who've never been. There's people who can go once ever, and then there's people who go every year. And those are the three classes in America, and I got to like that. I think if you go to Disney World every year you shift like sponsor a family was never been in order to go by like your fourth year. Oh yeah, Bernie. I'm going to pitch that to Bernie for the campaign to go ahead giving like it with tweet that tonight. If I said it to her go for, but yeah, no. I think the thing is like you're happy because you bring your kids there. But I agree it ninety percent of it is complaining. Hey, I want to go on that Riberio blah, like afterwards. They'll say, oh, that was great. But in the moment, it's mostly a nightmare. I think it's probably like a sweet spot of the age to take your kids to Disneyland where they're old enough to sort of, like get it. There's lines and not not complain but not too old to not want to be seen with their parents. Right. If you see what their parents have been my also my kids. My family went a couple times when my kids were young and it was great. We went for a week to different different times, and the kids loved it. They don't remember it because they're little, you know what I mean. Like you're wasting your time and money because the kids will not like I went a couple of times when I was a little kid, and I don't remember who took me or what happened anything other than the fact that I know I went like it's really a waste kit. You don't have any memories until you're seven or eight from things. It's a long day for the kids, and it's a long day for my wife, who is not in does not. Not seem like a person at the happiest place on earth. Right. I mean maybe DisneyWorld dizzy, Lander different the world also like if you're going, you're live in Orlando, you're like doing a few nights, and you're sleeping going back to tell whereas Disneyland you're going in the morning, and it's not maybe it's not as magical if you're sleeping in your own bed at night, you know, not sure. All right, Keiv. Are we done here? Yeah. I think we could get up to the mail bag now. I think we are done. All right. So, so we didn't do kittens kittens, they grow up to be cats. Yeah. That's true. Okay. Berg problem. All right. So to beloved hope we didn't come to hard for your favorites. Do think this podcast could be to beloved. No, I don't think so. But maybe. Okay, heave, let's talk about mount Rene more. What is on the board for Metronet more? All right. So we got some wild stuff going on. I got a got a DM right before we went on air today, that may be changed the fate of this whole podcast last week. We had a big time, addition to the wheel, which was Robin, Akiva, name, a baby that I think people are excited about, I spoke to Cori whose, whose baby. It is a four mentioned baby is his. I don't want to save his baby. You're not that's controversial. But he is. Fully on board. And his wife says one hundred percent she is now on board. So we are complete go for the Robin, Akiva, name, a baby. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Now, I'm I'm going to I just got a DM tell you what it was. And I do think this is another idea that I think maybe automatically get straight onto the board. I don't I don't know if we're going to put this in a waiting room or debate. It the DM was from one Alison Jafa lesser, okay? She says she had an idea with a friend of hers, who's also listened who we don't know. And they think that we should go back to the wheel, no pun intended, and set up her friend Missy on a date. The pitches we get three guys on the podcast. We'll submit it'll be like a mini wraps. We'll have people right in. We will pick out three people. They will come on the podcast. Missy will be with us. Yeah. And she will pick out she will pick. One of those guys and go on a date with them. Okay. So this is like the dating game. This is basically the dating which was originally what there was going to be. But I didn't really want her feelings, but now, okay, people are coming in knowing that they might not get picked. Okay. So. So basically. Yeah, it's automatic. This is an obvious one automatic. So now who is wittling the field down to the three guys? I will whittle the field. So this idea by the words from Allah, Lascher, and Andrew sculler, who guess is a listener. Do we think we have three guys that want to date, Missy? We have three hundred now Missy just just to give people tell people what the requirements are Missy lives. I think we stabbed New Jersey from the from their half short. So you have to live in the New York area and you have to be between the ages of thirty two and forty so basically a guy in their thirties. We'll do okay. Those are issue with Quincy's twenty nine or something he was young. Maybe but yes, so right in and what's the Email address that they should write it in? Rene at Rob's website, very dot com. Yes, we're nap it robs website dot com and just put Missy in the headline. This is not MRIs idea. Alley read it by missing. She said fine, but this was alleys idea. And Elliot's friend, okay. How do we get the update on how the date went? I think we can record and if they could go on down quick enough, maybe we'd, like, okay put in the second half. Or maybe we'd air that, as, as you know, we'd come next week, and let me sweep tied for the eligible bachelors. Okay. My will put up shut up Tim's one hundred dollars. Hey for the date seventy five because we gave twenty five in the call. Yeah, I'll pay for Nicole's one hundred dollars on. Did we get any credit? What do we have an update on that we gave them the coal twenty shred it with my wife? There's no winning read it. This nothing that you do that. Then moves forward. I we married to the same person every every. Nick is their credit with you, though. Do think you get gets credit with, you know, nobody, I'm saying you don't nobody gets credit with anybody. You think you do something for my wife and then you say I did something for you. Okay. Horse pretend were married pretend we're married, of course. And I say, hey, rob, like you left the water on who's going to flood the house. But I realized that I stopped by the way, thank you. While it was my did your laundry waiter, Akiva. You're the best whatever you need. You let me know two weeks later you for favor. Okay. Where are you keeping in mind that you're a flood in very laundry, course? But you're saying that your Bill of it or betrothed, see, I thought petrova's engaged. But now related at one time. Your your your beloved. I would not use would not say, oh, you know what rob you save from being flooded and no, my laundry. I owe you one no. Or at least like, oh yeah I like you. That's you know, you're, you're a net positive from you right now. I don't want to get too down on this rapid. There is. No. It's like you had like some like Nintendo games that had like memory that could like save, like say legends zombie. Like you could save. Are you got and then his other games like, once you turn it off, then you start over from the beginning of history. Right. That's more like the. The game is over. Then the next time you play your bang-up starting the first board. And sometimes even those at work, the next time in, let's blow under something, right? Yeah. No, I hear you might be in the same marriage, but maybe every marriage like that maybe nobody actually earns points with with anybody. I don't know I'd like to be able to earn points. I think I would have a lot of points built out, you have a lot of points. But yeah, you're game just never say you're, you're playing intendo system. And you think you playing like in sixty four points I can have like a million points. But then. Where's the where's the hat for T-ball and what happened to all my points? Yeah. What are you gonna get by? Nice birthday present the next day, yaks, Bentley forget to pick up the kid from school. And it's all, you know. For that. But then it's like, hey I it is president necklace can't pick up your son from school. Yeah. Okay. So that with our first thing straight onto the wheel that is for. I don't know even know if we'd have it ready for next week. We'll see. But yes. Sending your submissions a little ambitious. No, I know. But I'm saying it's not even eligible this week. Anyway. Okay. Let's get the people and how many gimme a guess, for how many people you think. Right. Into one a day missing too. That's absurd. It's going to be a million wouldn't wanna take Missy and excited. We're gonna get MRI on the podcast. I'm excited for that, too. But I don't know how many people are going to be all right. All right idea, number two. This week is a mystery idea. I'm going to g chat you. That's the that's the social messaging app of the king. Okay. The name of the idea. And you're just going to say, yes or no? Is this a sequel not a sequel? It is actually unlike anything we've done so far, it is outside the realm of anything is mister in its. It's nothing to do with the mystery. So the first one, it's just another mystery episode. Okay. Okay. All right. So I'm gonna I'm gonna chat you and you're just going to say, yes or no? If you have a question, you could g chat me. All right. So I'm waiting for Keita's message. He is typing. Okay say what it is. All right. Explain more if you want, I certainly could use more. I think that's a little league. Okay. The little vague for me. We'd have to depend on to talk for a second while I, I'm also a slow typist when I worked on Sunday football NBC. Yes. And sometimes I'd be typing up scripts for the show live on air while the games were there. And like there'd be a big scary producer yelling in my ear literal, not like over an intercom, but, like physically come into our research room in my ear, and say, like, hey, you got to print that out. And I'm a slow typist. I'm a touch typist. I like unto peck. Bobble. So it's very nervewracking typing when like you're live on air for TV and doing that. So this is also like that, where it's. You know, it's nerve-racking type so Energis entertained for one more as I. All right. Of course that we are back here in the survivor off season which is the on season for a Robin, Akiva, Nita podcast. So who knows what gold, we will come up with in the summer of kief here as we are getting ready for a long run of that. Besides in the summer of twenty nineteen. Okay. Akiva. This is okay. You can say no. If you say no, then you were going to say what it was. Okay. But if you say, yes, it just go straight on the wheel as a mystery episode. And you're going to do all this work. Yes. Some of it will be live on air. Okay. I don't know if I necessarily see the vision for this, but I'm willing to follow you into the gates of hell this episode, maybe the gates. So if you wanted, then put, if you feel like you can nail this, then put it on the board. I'll follow your vision. I think I think it has up side. Okay. All right. So this is another one episode was Akiva, mystery idea to just go into the sequel because. No, no. It's just that's just the concept the mystery idea. It's a mystery idea. Okay. Kiva mystery idea. And we'll talk more about that offline and you can tell me about what, what you're talking about if you hate it, you could kick it. Okay. All right. Let's keep going. I don't think we've ever put on three in the same episode. So let's let's see what we could do here. Not qatar. Writes in it says, I've idea that I think it'd be funny. It's called the eighties were trash doesn't have to be. But the eighty took about music movies, TV history anything you want to do about the worst decade in history. I think it does have to be the eighties. Like we couldn't do the nicer trash the nineties ruled. Yes, I don't want to go back into the eighties if. Anything I feel like that we should be on the forefront of talking about the first decade of the two thousands. Yeah. But that doesn't it will listen to thousands are trash. Like I feel like we haven't, we haven't branded that decade well and offer it to, you know what? I mean. The it's not the odds. Right. It is the odds. But I don't know if that has a strong brand is what I'm saying. Yeah, I'll pass on this, too, similar to what we just did today, which I hit, I agree. It's going to be oh, problem. No. Rob. Steven says, Robin akitas by the way, this was this idea was submitted by Kyle the one we did today. Okay. Thank you. So we blame Kyle. I think it's from Ohio Kyle knows Ohio if you if you mess up. All right. Robin akitas tight five Robin, Akiva, each repair. Five ten minutes stand up comedy routine has performed of the podcast. Then after before me the second critique each other's routines, could even turn this new competition with lizards vote. Well the figures are we doing a roast at some point, I don't wanna way stars in comedy chops on on that podcast. So I think that's a no right? Stand up comedy told to from one person to another podcast is not gonna work. Yeah. So find being loud says, here's my rap idea. The newlywed game the nearly wed game. She says, rob Steven or Wigley compete against the Keven Chester newlywed style game, the C, which set a podcast hosts know each other better. And I won't I won't ride in her second sense, because it was mean to one of the pockets, go guy. Guy. All right. But you'll read it to me after the podcast. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'll tell you what. Are you interested in it? Who, who am I paired up with paired up with Josh whitland? You're up with Chester or you could be paired with and I mean there's, there's no short paired up because Wigley. Yeah. Fish back knows anything about me. No, he knows nothing about. So interesting. So I mean, I think we agree to not dying to do it, but I have so much good stuff on the wheel the wheels loaded. I don't know what happened. We just added the dating game. I don't know if we need the newlywed game also, let's put this in the waiting room because I feel like venture it seems like something we could do. Yeah, I also like we could ask we got a million times, but he's a busy guy. He's not begging the come on the pod. He's about much less busy. Survivor getting canceled. I well it's the survivor off season in game of thrones. I'm seizing, I'm teasing. You have to from not being that usually goes on long vacation at this point, I feel like well maybe he he may. But that I feel like that his summer is going to be free rumor that you're going on a big vacation soon. I'm not going on a big vacation, but I am going to take a one one week away from podcasting later this summer, that's a big vacation, I guess, but when you say vacation, I think then you make people think that I'm going to be on a reality TV show and I'm sorry. All right. By the way, speaking of occasions, I think Chester NY or locking in our Minnesota trip this week. Okay. What is being locked in? What are the dates on that again? That's whatever the schedule is. So I think the sixteenth Tuesday and Wednesday believe it's the sixteenth seventeenth of July Tuesday night Wednesday day, the kind of met games. All right, Tuesday, when you wanna see Carlos, Gomez, Russia Davis, and Tim tvos mending the field for the return home for Carlos Gomes. Yeah. I first starting twelve. For the Mets yesterday. Yeah. Okay. Let me let me talk about that internal possible twelve years. That's not possible. Right. Well years of life. Thirty it said, his first starting twelve years, I read, but there's no way. That's true. I mean, yeah, I it was two thousand seven calls Gomez is in a hundred years old. Let's see if Carlos Gomez was less than two thousand seven I don't know. But sports was he twenty with twenty one. Yeah. He he, he. That's right. Two thousand seven jeez. It's been a long time. Yeah. It's been a minute. Okay. Lot, lots of Mets history to forget about between then, and now okay, Akiva. Let's talk about what's coming up on the with anything else. No. I think that's good for this way at two things. That's more than enough. All right. So let's get into what we are going to be talking about for episode number thirty six and really we have different days during the week now that are available to record. So we can really open up the playbook. We spend two minutes on Adam gaze at the end of the podcast. Yeah. You wanna talk about paid man and become digestion due at the end of the five. All right. So let's, let's go ahead and open the wheel up here, and let's get into talking about what is on the board. So seasons we episode seven is now up to four spaces. Okay. We now have the coin flip we have the Oregon trail we have the rise and fall of JT. We have MTV shows or trash infomercials our trash. So I believe Eric Stein is back in business. What about alley Lascher? She's, she's always in business. She's good to go. All right. The Royal rumble, the crappy movie diaper. That's two spots millennials killed it. The census the sequel mechanism the final four mount Rushmore, and baby name reveal party. Is that the name of it, it shouldn't be Robin? Akiva, name, baby. I felt we were need to spice it up. So the baby name reveal party was that your idea, fine. I didn't know if shot a excuse me from Marica, when roll the chills, Robin akitas, usually not in the name of the episode title. Okay. So I think that at the time that we call it that it was not one hundred percents. We were going to name the baby. We were going to name a suggestion for the baby. But now naming that baby you're officially naming debating will we get to share the last name of the baby because I think that will be important in terms of the maybe a we will know it. I'll ask him. I don't know if we should say it on air. I mean, if he says, yes, fine if not only snow. Jones. We wouldn't name it like Joey Jones, unless we thought a litter of names are good. Maybe we would do that. Maybe we would. But we could just say the name does not go with the pairing. Yeah. We could say that we said, whatever whatever the dad, whatever they said, okay. We are Corey be another listener said that he wants you know, he he's thinking about us naming babies. We may name every corey's baby. Okay. Part of the Paul corey's. We will name their babies here on Robin, Akiva, Nita podcast. Episode number thirty six. Let's see what the big wheel Kerns up. Episode number thirty six you believe it. All right. Doesn't. Oh, wow. Believe it or not baby name reveal party unbelievable. Wow. Wheel is on fire. I think that's exciting. I ready to go for next week. I think so I don't wanna promise any guests, but we could have guessed I gotta speak to those people. I think it's better because I feel like if we waited too long they would come up with their own name. Yes. That's good. That's good. I asked him this week. I said, do you have a deadline where you want them baby named he said, no, no, rush, because I think the baby is at the very least several months if not like six months away from actually being born. Yeah. And we could really use a hit after this episode. Yeah. I know I was really rooting against the JT veto JT this week or one or two of the other ones. All right. We need a slump BUSTER. Here we go. So baby named reveal party coming week, potentially with guests and we'll figure out the logistics and get that podcast to you next week on the show. All right. Key? I think we should tell people if they want to suggest the baby name. What do they do? Okay. I guess you just Email us. Yeah. And put baby naming the a lot of emails this week, send it in so yeah, but make sure you have Missy or baby name and your title. If you're emailing in about Missy or the baby name, okay? Do we we still still don't know, boy, or girl to boy? Oh boy. Okay. All right, y'all. Sorry, it's a boy's name. I think also you I don't know the exact format but I'm going to come up with a few names. You're gonna come with a few names if we have guests, they'll have names, then we're also we have way more listeners than we do host. So I feel like the power amasses maybe useful here. I mean but up much know what we're collectively were almost. The smartest every listener combined by the end of this episode, there might not be at the difference in numbers. I don't know. All right. Our reviews are in and we have a one hundred ninety four or five star ratings at Robin, Akiva, Nita podcasts on apple podcasts. Go to rob his website com slash Rene up. And this is from M F, E, L, icy ninety metallic ninety found this podcast because of Robert, it took me a while to warm up to a kiva but after several episodes. In on him. There's a lotta yada, yada to start the episode. Sometimes I skip through and sometimes is great. I also skip the episodes. I don't like, but I think that there's something for all tastes here. I really appreciate the amount of effort, Robin, Akiva, put into curing. Interesting and unique topics, and I feel like the show gets better and better as they continue to work out. What works and what they in the listeners respond to. Okay. Then we have text me when you get here from Meg wants to know. Hey guys, I grabbed the booth in the back of chilies here in Omaha seems like we can fit a bunch of us here. Trying to decide if I order some appetizers for the table. They have southwestern eggrolls thoughts, really one of the big blunders, we've done in the history of this series is not choose meet me in the middle. Okay. Do you remember what we chose for the from that podcast for what's coming on the wheel in June? It's something about a kids show at kids book and we're predicting what happens if we could have had really for America meet. Well. Came out of the actual, but we picked the second one. Also the tournament was a hit. Yeah. No, the listeners pick the second one. Oh, yeah. That's true. Yeah. The list of them. No. You guys are dumb. Okay. All right. Keiv thirty two fans pockets, I listened to your Seinfeld trivia. Yeah. What did you think I thought it was a fun? I think that the, the questions could use another pass in terms of putting them together. I know that Chester messed up the end. So people don't know we're talking about. We had a listener are for an AB, who is we gave them the spot because if you're really die hard Napa listener your member. He was sort of forced out for time constraints on the on the original jeopardy house. Seinfeld superfan, didn't listen to the Seinfeld recap. It's weird. Right. I think he didn't know about it a podcast. He listen to this podcast. Yes, yes, maybe he knew too much to about Seinfeld above, like vs hacks. But so we had AB go up against the aforementioned nine year old girl, would it was eleven by the time, we do the podcast, I guess the idea was a year old, and we had her name, we had our age, and she was amazing. She was one hundred times better than I'm sure you thought she was going to be. Yeah. Knows a lot about Seinfeld. Elicited Jamie's daughter. She really blew people away. It was a very close race. You should listen people like that episode even though rob is rag on this show. The final question from Chester is an absolute nightmare people agree there. Yeah, it is completely skewed towards one person and it's awful. But everything else I thought was pretty good. Yeah, fun. All right. What's next on the thirties fans podcasts? Oh, I got nothing. I mean, I have no more ideas until until football season starts. So hopefully, we'll think of something. Okay. I got it. We got to figure out how to get to Minnesota. Maybe we'll just book book plane tickets live under this week. I don't know very exciting. Okay. Keep I asked if we could talk two minutes about the state of our beloved New York Jets who mired their general manager. And I guess co assistant general manager earlier this week after hiring a new head coach back in January. I guess it was. And I know that we don't like to talk too much about SP. Sports on the podcast, because the end of the show, they chef so you can jump off. If you are not inclined, okay? And so a kiva as my one of my go-to knowledgeable jets fans will what do you feel about the state of the jets was this one step forward or one, step back? Why think mcadams a moron? So they should have fired him before. You know. Well before the draft. Yes, it stinks that he got to make all these moves didn't sign a center didn't really sign a cornerback. But I better at least call your law says, like it makes sense. The fire him. Now it seems like they really think that they're going to get paid manning, which I can assure you, they will not. They think that paid manning is going to be the general manager, that's the rumor that Peyton Manning is going to be the general manager, but he will never sign like there's no reason why Peyton Manning would do that. Do we want pave manning? I know we wanted to. As you like an exorbitant amount of money. It doesn't make sense. Peyton Manning know about being general manager. Gays and he suggests that maybe Trevor simian to the back quarterback the whole thing. Makes no sense. We have two teams the jets in the Mets the Mets just lost trust soon. Eight manning to run a Papa John's. Well, you know, I don't know if that was his fault Papa John's sort of went under after he bought, like forty four inches. He's too busy. You can't own like a million businesses and then be the GM of jets those maintenance. But the two general managers right now of the teams we root for have a combined four months of managerial experience, right? Then wagon has four months and and gays zero of any sort of scouting or, or, or upper management experience. So I mean he was the defacto general manager for the dolphins. I guess, but I, I don't think he had final say on the roster. I think Greer did where Mr.. T vim, Mentana, ma'am. I don't know the. Whatever we should we should put on the wheel, Robin, Akiva takeover. The Mets and the jets, and then we'll just use the wisdom of our listeners to make decisions and we'll undoubtably better than all these morons. So that being said, is it better to get rid of the wrong guy at the wrong time or to wait until the right time to get rid of the wrong guy? I don't know. It was the right time to get rid of him because it's a more, they should have done it earlier. But it's a sunk cost like you could still fire him now. Okay. All right. So we'll see. We'll see you don't think that they're going to get was Joe. Douglas. He might be their backup again. The gays has final say so real though, real candidates going to take the job because gases, the GM case has final say on the ivory, they wouldn't have fired mcadoo unless they had somebody like a handshake deal. The Woody Johnson, the brain dead Woody Johnson's equally stupid, but much poorer younger brother is not going to be. The fire the guy, you don't have somebody else like a handshake deal. Why is our owner being the frigging Basser the UK? Why can't he come home and like you famous? I mean, his brother is a moron. Also, the whole family, what somehow we found the two first of all, I really think especially with Twitter, you see, like Howard Schultz running for president, and like doesn't know from down. I think every billionaires moron when we really we used to think that they were smart and then we'll get on Twitter's Yuan. Musk is calling people names and getting sued like every single one of these guys dumber than the next and we have two of the dumbest except one of our owners, so dumb, they don't even have a billion dollars anymore because they trust the Bernie Madoff with it, but to the dumbest, which on the planet, or in charge of our happiness in life in Woody Johnson in the wilpon family. It's very upsetting not good. All right. Follow Akiva on Twitter at Keiv twenty six and then if he has another baby, you'll be there to favorite his tweet about birth announcement at ROY. Sister. You know, take care have a good one. Bye.

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Rob & Akiva Need a Podcast #48: Dawsons Creek | Season 3, Episode 7 Recap

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Rob & Akiva Need a Podcast #48: Dawsons Creek | Season 3, Episode 7 Recap

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True cash offer is not available in all areas the dow dot inquiry week. You got me kiva needle. Yes yes that's right robin. Akiva need a podcast coming in hot off the success of the royal rumble last ask time out so what better way to follow up the highly acclaimed or a royal rumble episode than to talk some season in three episodes of dawson's creek and the man who i will do all of that with and more here today is the great akiva winokur rob. What do you think would have to happen for this. Week's episode to be more popular than the royal rumble <hes>. Let's let's figure something out. I think that your house would have to go on fire. Okay lou. We haven't won yet. Yeah okay jump out the window and no and then you like rescue your family and while a holding the laptop and getting your family out of the burning house okay and i am but staying on the podcast yes your wife could be yelling at you like why on fire the whole thing would be great yeah. I still think we get less tweets than we got for the royal rumble. If you remember on this podcast i had to kill a snake once that i remember yeah and and i believe there was a scorpion incident also shrieking in the background during the sign like where's every two two months. My wife would like him okay so we've done all that mike no more. Vermin is a snake vermin naked snake vermin and i don't think either are snake scorpions vermont. I think the vermin i think vermin is like a scourge no s i'm not sure i thought vermin vermin is like a category of like mouse and rat yeah. Let me say vermin are wild animals that are believed to be harmful to crops farm annals moles or game it carry disease example given a rodents parasitic worms so i think that vermin is it doesn't didn't didn't say snakes or or scorpions. Yeah what's the difference between a rodent vermin as now the difference between a rodent vermin is that a rodent is a mammal of the order rhodesia characterized by a long incisors that grow continuously in inner worn down by knowing while vermin in is countable okay who cares i'm google google. Scorpions and vermin got nothing. Pigeons have widely are sometimes considered vermin some varieties of snakes and arachnids so maybe snakes and spiders. I want another whole are spiders animals thing that was annoying. Yeah okay yeah so i probably was at the most feedback we got last week for the royal rumble incredible amount and then we had on a couple of different podcasts people well involved like blurred out results and then people were mad about getting spoiled the royal rumble the winner spoiled themselves the first second they were okay well. What are you going to do next time. We'll tell people not to mention not to say the winner's name or whatever for everybody to sign an NDA before the next rumble through thing we could do that could we get every listener to sign an NDA going forward brent from canada on twitter now so a lot of great feedback for the road but let's just talk about what's coming up here today so we're. I'm very excited about our guest today to talk about season three episode number seven of dawson's creek. We're gonna talk to a guy named mike stern and some of our listeners a might know him as the co host of the pied. It was a podcast about nothing with the eric's nine and mike stern podcast. I thought that was our podcast. Seinfeld's seinfeld podcast about nothing. They got a little. I'll look that up about what steeler name that was like a tagline so it was something let's see eric stein podcast asclepius. It comes up. It's up vegas for no one podcast sites. I got confused. Okay so a podcast for no one was the the <hes> i believe now in yada. 's eric stein and mike stern podcast. The the challenge was on that podcast is that their voices sound identical anacle so even as a longtime friend of eric stein very difficult to discern when eric stein was talking and when mike stern was talking but but i reached out to eric on the chance that he was a dawson's creek person he says no by mike stern is coincidentally. Mike stern had already been tweeting about the rumble so maybe he is if not a every episode listener then certainly has been a listener of an app so he's going to join us talk about season three episode number seven of dawson's creek. We're actually gonna do that second. What wow you're flipping the order flipping the script because here's how this is going to work where we're recording this on thursday and mike is available at three o'clock and rather than record one piece and then record this then. We can't talk about anything that happened and it's going to be disjointed. We're just gonna do the mailbag first then we'll spin the wheel pepe pig music then we'll talk about season's episode of dawson's creek and we'll put in the time coat. If anybody wanted to skip ahead ed to just dawson's creek and didn't wanna hear the mail bag then they'll be able to do that all right that makes sense easy enough. I think it's nice to mix it up every once in a while. We're mixing it up so that's what we're doing here today rob. I'd also like to make something up. If it's okay with you okay well. It depends where you're gonna. Mix up is it ruins and vermin. I would never do <hes> so last week. We had the stunning announcement that the baby nine named baby ruin is not baby and it's it's not our baby okay. We're not the godparents were not involved at all and i was on that row in sounded too much like wrote in i mean we should've named at vernon <music>. I'm keeping the census so you team road or team furman yeah. We can't have that on the census oh so i was. I was so bummed but that's not the only thing we really put into the universe naming a baby we we also if you remember at the live show in minnesota <hes> we met a new friend named aaron and we we had asked the audience hey who needs a best friend and she volunteered. I'm tired and then we played a game yourself me and sunday bergquist. Are we out of the whole audience we pick three people and then erin went ahead and us asking them questions picked new best friend a guy named brett yes and so we said at some point when she's not expecting it. We're gonna we're gonna call aaron and see if she's still best friends with brett so let's why don't we call aaron right now and find out her staff with brett now. I thought we were going to wait. Six months that i mean i feel like we need a w after the l. from the from the row in thing so we're moving at the time we had the royal rumble no i i don't mean that i just mean like in terms of in terms of like our social game. Not the podcast is white hot anymore. Red hot the you know i just i don't know i feel like like this will make me feel better about row and if we've made people because if we really made a difference in the world if we haven't named the baby or setup best friends okay now. This is not some some sort of a bit. She has no idea that we're calling right. <hes> right guy is against the law that we need to tell let her know oh that she is being recorded. I think's gonna happen yeah. Those guys all right. Why don't you round me a call by me and you that she's not gonna the notice okay all right so you want to just see once when she answers. What are you going to say. I chaman an answer sir. I don't know if we're gonna say it's robin akiva and she'll probably know recalling okay well. Let me make sure that we are recording that track. That should should that. She's going to be on so we have. That part of the conversation recorded okay so let's call aaron and see how what's going to happen what the callahan calling her on skype nap is powered by a sponsor. I mean she might not. I answer hello blow. Is this aaron aaron aaron. This is robin akiva. We're recording a podcast right now. That is so exciting. How are you glad it's not that exciting. Yeah yeah remember atmosphere. I i love this phone well. Are you busy right now that we just wanted to call and say high school yes. I am no longer busy. Okay that's great. Wchs kiva wanted to check in with you today and see what's going on with you and your best friend yeah rea- i <music>. I think we're legit best friend several times. Wow i can take a real aid was nervous erin because i'm facebook friends with aaron and bret a- and i've not seen one picture with them. I think brett like tag. Picture didn't tagger and i'm like oh. Maybe they're not even friends like this could be a disaster because erin. Did you hear here last week about the baby the baby oh boy yeah the like a baby that yes yeah yeah. What do you think about that. Gosh that's really. They really built it up like i man you. If you're a volunteer yourself you get your baby names. I mean you gotta go through with that. That's just like an anyone now could just call you and be like oh yeah but the my name is something something <hes> whatever you say like they just trying to get on the podcast like ghana. That's our faults look. We need to get some sort of collateral in the future future kids until they named row and and giving the kid back if not a kid then maybe like some heirloom or something like that. I guess a kid would be weird. I had to watch it right. More kids around your wife already saw a car like because they need something. I love pets but i don't even know oh you have a take care of a pet for punishment for a gift that's vacation yeah but i think like an heirloom like their wedding ring or something that would be good and then which is and we just hold onto it and then if they don't name the baby what we we picked out then we'll like smash it with a sledgehammer like gallagher yeah. That's yeah that's perfect people. There has to be bake the mess otherwise people just people just be calling you for just name. Whatever yeah fool us once shame on you for us twice shame on us. We won't let this happen again. Akilah no we will. We're going to next week islands aaron can you can you like akao really. How close are you with guys like texting every day or you in group jets together whatever you guys want more like every every every other day every couple days yeah like <hes> like oh hey happy you're like for school and <hes> mean like each other stuff on social media. He got me to the post on instagram for the first time in a year and a half or something. We've hung out like <hes> two or three times. We've decided our thing is going to a different thai restaurant. Every time we hang out so here you have another hang out that up like i don't know minnesota's. How many thai restaurants restaurants are there. You could run out anymore. Okay i don't think well. I don't know if we'll get there in the next three years. Do you have a spreadsheet. I'd sheet ranking all of the thai restaurants in minnesota. You know that would be like me. I <hes> we can talk about that. Get set up if anyone's interested in my tie restaurant raging. Was the instagram posts that you made after a year. You're in a half yada son. I their school you know. I knew that we get a lot of like for me anyway because it's like everyone on the first fool and <hes> is just like he's like <hes> so yeah that that was all it was i just i feel like i never have an occasion like good enough to post on instagram like i just get stuck. I'm not bad millennial. Thank you need to become instagram official like you need to post a picture. I'll believe this but it sounds like you're good friends. It sounds like you're not best friends yet <hes> six weeks yeah i think maybe you know at the end of twenty nineteen rob we should we should check back in but i do think we need to look up the game a little bit so maybe like if you call him your best friend end on instagram. Let all your other friends. No are there number. Two or lower east should have gotten an heirloom from erin in minnesota. Are you saying oh you know for sure. If we do this again. Next year we do the you know robin akiva setup best friends or whatever it was also like we were going to divorce a couple at the live show. We didn't get any sort of promise. They're going forward we have. We have a big collateral part of the show that is true. Okay yeah he did brett did instagram's stories the last thing out there hasn't been instagram did you post has been out there 'cause that was before my year and a half yata <music> over no yeah. Have you met the parents yet. Have you met each other's families. <hes> definitely not. I don't think we're playing fair. Yeah i haven't had talked all about our family is not meeting anybody any friends parents komo merits if you say so. I think you know brush him. It's jake. I think mom is mary. I think we wanna family tree. I don't know that our family but yeah okay okay. I'm satisfied with us. I because i was nervous but this is good bats back or do you have any ideas for the wheel ideas for the wheel <hes>. I really don't i i'm. I'm not that creative. Let's be honest next time you go to a restaurant with brett that you guys could work on it over a million yeah yeah if you shop at the aaron and bret spot on the wheel and it'd be great okay all right well. This was great to catch ketchups. Give our best to brett. I i will absolutely i'll i'll i'll texan right after the okay good and we wanna see that instagram posts all right. That's the next step work on the okay all right erin keep anything else for aaron no now. I'm just happy that <hes> you know good luck with school this year. Good luck with your new best friend bread and balancing both those things and we'll we'll speak to you at the end of two thousand nine hundred and we'll really you know zoom in and see if you're actually best friends or not okay. I'm good dawson's creek questions for us. Oh yeah it's a good question. I've never watched dawson. What do you think about doing the male side. We're doing the male bay before show this week. What do you think about that. You did the mailbox. I think right now we haven't done a show yet. We may never get us. Are you going to order air absolutely luba inside baseball saying yes no for sure we're doing it. I i guess yeah it gets right to the chase for people who don't actually listen to the whole episode right but i don't know what do you think you'd get. Some people who accidentally listen to the rest of it is when when you put it at the end but what are you telling people or mailbag only lee like. I don't know how this works. There's some people only episodes of the mail bag slash the wheel that <hes>. I personally have never done that okay well. We'll see we'll see what the feedback is gonna be alright. Let us know how this works i. I'm i'm anti this <hes> <hes> show mail bag but okay how it goes here. We're kind of back onto stickler. She doesn't like us busy the format she likes rules. Don't mess with working okay. Is this going to be a preview for lots of negative feedback akiva i i don't know and who are you rooting for in the royal rumble last week in the royal rumble i i really wanted alley last year to run that. She run ever talk about her like ten times an episode. I think it would have exploded yeah. Probably i'll put it was like i mean love melissa. It's pretty funny. That was like what personal agendas not has no yeah the inanimate inanimate objects would have been more good sport actually think elaine bennis has less awareness of rubble. Yes melissa was great. Spoiler was a great. It's board about winning and we'll have her on the podcast point yeah if she wants to get her like the the i i didn't watch i only i was only audio on that but it's still is oh you gotta watch rock. Thrown out of the ring just started crying on. They said they were. I've been picking up my own kids over my head like that gesture and then just like throwing them a couch rob chester near and a chat and chester posted big mistake. I just showed my kids. The royal rumble they were like borderline crying when they saw their dad clown with curb your enthusiasm music and then get tossed out of the ring thirty thirty feet in eleven seconds yeah. They'd probably be probably tried them for life at this point able not from this but thank you so much. Take care okay. Thanks guys bye bye that that was a great moment for the podcast because i think that for the listeners they all have shoes. This like us sit up a little bit in their jaren. It's like hold on just gonna be randomly getting a phone. Call one day on the gas. Gotta keep agree yeah if you're right. If if you're not paying attention could be calling you at any time and you don't wanna miss that call ya right so everybody stay. Stay on your toes does but i i actually deemed to get her phone number right after minnesota and i said we will call you next week. We might call you year. I need your number now but you have to guarantee an answer every time it rings for now until we call which might be a year all right. I'm in so much probably answered on the second ring. She's probably didn't just waiting for us to call so. She asked s. Careful the number like the day after we did it all. I'm a planner and today knowing i've had it. I've had it since june or july. Whenever we went to july and then louis speaking of minnesota let me ask you another question because i got an email froth as a facebook message from one of the attendees from the sleepover sleepover podcasts okay who was going to be interviewed for the sleepover or cod casts documentary oral history. Can i just stop you down for a second sure. We live very strange lives. Yes what is happening in our world who keep going uh-huh and this person. I will hold their name a requested that they wanted me to send them. I'm the audio of the sleepover podcast proper that they could listen to it back to refresh their memory for they gave their sworn testimony to the commission does does their name with palley slasher does does not it does not. I just wanted to see what you're feeling was on this. If it's a person who could be trusted to never release the audio than we talk about it but i have to hear who was i. I almost feel like it's more fun to just have people have to just like this story of all these different. POV's of the fall it's almost like random monin or would it russia. What what is the real story like. Everybody just don't think it's a good idea i. I don't think it's a good the idea <hes> because we could just play the episode which who knows if even exists people have said that the that the recording the audio exists while i was trying to be mysterious like maybe that there should be like sixty second clip of just to cut out to prove that exists exists. It's possible maybe lindsay you know works hard enough she lizzy and a copy of it lindsey the documentarian yes so let's actually let's get into this. There are four different major episodes being worked on now for this podcast in case people were like well you just the oregon trail rumble and those were my two most anticipated things. There's there's a lot in the work. So the four big things are a there is a molar reports style investigation into our sleepover podcast pissing sleepover podcast episode lindsey wilson has assembled a team. I think twelve people have been interviewed so far. I don't think you've been interviewed i have i think i for for late at night and i have to go again. Yeah but people are message. You mean saying you know and tell me like hey. I got interviewed. I know i don't know what's happening. I just know that people are getting interviewed reviewed. That's one that eventually then you have also been taking to twitter constantly. Just bashing chang the process that is going on conducting all of these interviews about the sleepover podcasts and unfair to witch on. It's it's ridiculous uh-huh agree. We also have a clear hit by a car has has been the name. I think she's fine with it. She's got she's got a good sense of your but i think she's been called hit by a car claire yet. She hadn't been hit by a guard all right. I just had this because there's a lotta clair's out there. I gotta describe which so our friend claire from canada. She has gone through almost all of the seinfeld episodes cutting clips. Send trying to cancel us and see you know. All of our bad takes pockets. That'll be ready for the wheel soon. We also have as discussed last week wheeler no wheel. We've got a <unk> ho yeah people working on that. They're just figuring out the game mechanism but that'll be ready soon which wheeler no wheel is basically. There's like instead of boxes of money. There's boxes of podcast ideas. It's just a whole thread in the rods podcast patron group of work shopping the wheel or no wheel pitch. That's i like that listen. This is the people's podcast rob. Everyone has a say anyone who wants can sort of chip in here so the and the fourth one. That's the newest one. I was just told today i <hes> this. They didn't even have our permission but i think you'll be fine with. This showed up. Tim and puja have been working on an episode called something like i think it's called the mask podcasters caster were they have about eight to ten people in our universe singing songs and their audio voice will be changed. I think and they'll give clues and we have to guess who they are. That sounds like a lot of fun yeah. That sounds very fun also so well. There are some major episodes requiring a ton of editing three of them. That should be added to the wheel within a month. Wow we're not musical at some point. That's gonna come from really objecting ever heard on that in every ten. We've got updates so i'll be reading frail. Mary's fan fiction before i hear the musical yes there's a lot going on with those but would you like to get to the mail bag and get some some new ideas and see what's on out rene more okay number. One more showed up. Tim is back in in business with his. He's got to mount learn more this week. Here's the first one it's called robin akiva. Call my mom but not his mom. He said okay asked listeners submit their mom's number and robin akiva called explained to the moms. What we're nap is in that. Their child actively listens to it. They also talk karain events with the moms. Get some other than the advice. We could ask questions and yada oughta. I love this. I love the idea of like people submitting their moms like. Wouldn't you want to call like lisa lascher or you know who else who else who who else mom would be fun to call all right well at the risk of sounding anti mom. I don't know if this is a good idea idea why you think moms are boring. I it doesn't have to be mom dad. I guess it depends who it is abide. Y do and i always try to look at this from the perspective of not us but as the listener if i am the listener yeah what what do why care what a random person's mom thinks about rene well. I don't think we really that was his pitch but i don't think we'd really we might explain explain the podcast them for a minute but i think we might just like have a bunch of questions for them yeah. I don't know if i'm sold on this okay. I thought this would be a lot to go on the wheel but i'm not you know. Maybe maybe there's tweaking that needs to happen. I like the name robin akiva. Call my mom yeah. I just don't know if we're talking to people that have no idea about what we do. I like when we talked to people that know exactly what we do. Okay all right so maybe maybe there's a punch launch needed for robin akiva. Call my mom <hes> will you can put that in the waiting room <hes> ro robin akiva this work on it for a second okay. Let's work kind of okay what if what if people got ideas for the wheel from their parents or people recorded like we do like jimmy kimmel type thing of like instead of like record your kids like candy like maybe people are going going to like tell their tell their parents something either get ideas from their parents or tell their parents about something that happened on the podcast and get their reaction the action to it and then we're playing those that's a good idea of what a lot of someone has to do a lot of editing work there what what if i mean we will be that much editing as did you use the audio recorder on your phone and send it in. I don't think we need to cut the clips down to my my what if what if like one week like next week we just had an episode where people ask their moms or dads for for male back pitches and we just do the mo like non listener moms mailbag pitches next week. I think that that would be very very funny. Fiftieth episode coming up in two episodes <hes> so should we do that too episodes. We're going to have people's non listening fair and switches for the mail back back playing they named a baby didn't work but then maybe they you know they set up listeners on blind dates. They did a royal rumble. What's what's your what's your. What's your big idea well. Is that a mailbag segment or is that an episode where then something has to get picked. We we have to put one parent. I start with a male day just 'cause like i don't know we already have we hate you. We joke about having bad things on the wheel but then it ruins are weak when it comes uh-huh up no specific episodes that i'm okay so that's that's funny. If that's a hit then we can get ideas from kids like kids school kids ideas for the wheel and had that as a mailbag is that is is that good enough for episode number fifty well. We can't decide what episode fifty is but i think it could be the mail bag okay. Usually we clean out the wheel waiting room every ten episodes episode but this is a big anniversary fifty five. We could do that in the next week. In anticipation mailbag episode forty forty nine the cac forty nine how how many games the forty niners gonna win this year <hes> six i think i think they'll be fine. I think they're like eight and eight team. Yeah laura sleep on them. Olympic champions good coach okay okay shannon than gays anyway all right number two from sheriff tim robin akiva repeat. If this is chosen robin akiva spin the master wheel which is every previous episode on it and whatever one i picked robin akiva do that again guest included possible okay just to go back to the parents. Are we charging the listeners to ask your non listening parents for their ideas for the wheel if they have an idea of the wheel and then send it to send the audio clip to do this over email to need a podcast it robs website com or rene arabs webster dot com or seinfeld that post show recaps and they can do if they don't wanna do audio or if they're not capable they can they can just do they can write in. I guess l. audio but yeah like if we you know it's sometimes you only get a few audio's. It was then if by next week we don't have anything then. We'll just say well. We'll call it off okay so we'll play whatever we have. So what do you think about this robin mckeever. We spent a master wheel of every episode would and whatever gets picked. We have to do that again. Well i think that that's going to be it's a funny idea by execution wise pick a number just pick a number from one to forty seven twenty six okay akitas mystery episode that was yeah. We already did that twice. Big another number seventeen okay pranking the listeners. That would be an easy one to do again yeah but then the question is is. Let's say it's dinosaurs or say by the building seven. Do we do season three episode seven again. That would be a nightmare or do we just go to season three episode eight like the same show different episode. I don't think that this is no joke. I like the idea of a super wheel though episode on it the master wheel <hes>. Do you know if something's a good enough idea. We put back on the wheel. I don't think that we need to do this all right. This is a good pitch. When the census gets picked yeah there are no sooner me and you're gonna be betting on every answer. I think right that's part of that's part of the census. Somebody says are you. What was it a vermin or a rodent. What do you like the team br team firm or team rodent yeah. I think that you know vermin one fifty. Four percent new think rodent one so eventually like someone wins there. We don't have steaks what if the stakes for that episode are. The loser has to watch the first season of the show scum and give report the next week or seasoned and with the first four episodes twenty minute episodes <hes> i mean there has to be if i was wrong. Nobody you could fake it fake. It pretend to have read the book. I mean dawson's creek to that in a little bit. I like the idea of love that we are in the scam boat together where you have to watch where where your head is that but i think that's another penalty where you know. Where can i know you're busy guy. The last thing you want to do is watch a millionaire scum but it's like gambling. It's only fun if losing his painful. I mean all right well way. Even if the census comes up this week by the time we get to the episode. We can nail down what the stakes are. I thought that was funny pitch. The first season escom have okay. This is another pitch here very good yeah what about how about the the norwegian degrassi. That's what people are saying yeah is there a norwegian quarter to gas gas has two ways and like that's true on the top okay. Here's another pitch so we have two people who have money in the bank passed on this show right yeah one is <hes> spoiler alert for the royal rumble melissa denney <hes> and the other one is <hes> who has their other pass hanna hanna shapiro okay. The problem is neither of them listen to the show. As far as i know yeah so oh do can we have a listener. Make some sort of twitter account slash bot that just tweets at them every week that says next week rob mckeever doing the x. Do do either of you wanna come on because i don't want to bother them every week so you why didn't they won't care about the i think there's a good idea and then it could be like yeah yeah you know hey you're doing dawson's creek. I love dawson's creek great. I'm on <hes>. I guess i'm gonna risk of potentially making them numb to like like a week. That might be perfect for that. Yeah i mean it's not like they've said yes so. Far has had had the pass for awhile. I think it's a funny idea. I want people know if they don't like it. We'll take the tweet oily. If then there should be a option to reply ops to opt out and then i would turn it off forever are they can stop if you don't want anymore. Notifications let me know and we'll take you off the baht. There's like a lot if if someone tweets about melissa there are like bots that literally like it's crazy the malaysia brother there's a lot yeah. I think there's a bunch. I don't know you spin a very complicated web. Your whole world everything yeah. You're you're part of the one the minute but there's no kifah don't start box. There's so many other than you conjure them. When you say the big brother account sir sir our next level okay alrighty. Here's here's pitch number three this week from zach. It's called robin near replacement assessment. I think it'd be fun for you to podcast discussing who you'd like to take over nap in the event that either you were going to retire or we're unable to continue the show for whatever reason pigging replacement now would make smooth transition and would allow each of you to have who take your spot on the show. It's just the seed of an idea for now but i think you guys could find a way to make it super interesting. Maybe create a survey or an application with questions. I what would you name amo listeners baby and the two of you can critique their answer finally comes built incision who plays rob or replace akiva given a potential candidates as guests for the episode. Don't we already have this on the wheel as uh-huh wheel but i mean it's very similar but i like the idea of do you have a will last will and testament rob i do <music> do not have a specific well because i was thinking it would be funny and i don't think i have one my wife would be in charge of that but i don't think i have one the the <hes>. If if like we into our will who would be a replacement but i also think it would need to be someone. We can't chain them the podcast. It's too late so you need to have someone with an aunt in their name and i need hey i think we can figure it. It's almost like the regis and kelly type thing where it was regis and kathy lee and that and it was regis and kelly and then re just was gone and then it was kelly and michael and then <hes> kellyanne seacrest so yeah. I think that one of us can leave and then there would be another person that that that comes in <hes>. Do you think seacrest will take this gig if you leave because he is an are it would be just ryan and podcast. It doesn't have to be alliterative. It doesn't have to be always in a or you know if if we pick shut up tim and yeah i think it could be you know. Akiva shut up tim nita podcast yeah had podcast. I think if we could be fine yeah so i. I think that this can just be folded into the third wheel. Third wheel is also then. It's like the third string quarterback you know. If something happens to one of us they move up on the depth chart. Yeah agreed agreed and one of us is nathan peterman also all right one more one more pitch for this week. Okay okay we so we. We said we'd revisit this idea. After canadian shows attract which i think was mostly well received yes. What do you think about about repeating that with different channels so here's one pitch from jake. Almost nothing is more beloved to millennials and even some excellent meals the knick game shows suggests watching three game shows and ripping them to shreds ed's. I stand just about every game show on the network and even very briefly with slammed on one his beloved as they are. They simply can't hold up. I would suggest leads legend temple. The double dare guts nick arcade figured out so this is just part of the pitch. I think part one of the pitchers would be nickelodeon game shows a trash but also there is in the hopper we have HGTV and TLC any give those interest there okay so i i like the concept i would say that in terms of the execution. I thought that when we did uh-huh TV shows are trash and it was just alley. Lascher is the person she's talking us through like. All of the guests were great for canadian shows their trash but i think it makes it very tricky to produce that having to figure out so run the guest for daily youtube where if there was like one person is like oh i am the expert in all things dingle odeon game shows then i. I like that in saint pages you. I told you pitch yourself for nickelodeon. TLC i think kirsten has already pitched herself self rates. GT the thing was her idea. I think it's contentious between interest whether it was her or john john john john he's busy making royal rumbles right now john john is produced a lot of royal rumble and wrestling videos in a more recent version of the the wrestling game the two k. sixteen or something like that <hes> we had like a playstation two game that brent from canada us. I think that the the older game. I think there's a little bit more less realism and i think it's a little a little more of innocence to it. Yeah all right so another okay so now we're we're pretty much done with the make for this week. We didn't officially at anything. We've got a lot of things you know major operations about to come on the next couple of weeks one question sean is we have we have. We did a brand steel. We're going to do another one soon. <hes> should brand steals move to royal rumble territory wrestlemainia royal rumble territory so more fun version of the podcast where like instead of doing thirty characters from our universe in lebron's dan steele or twenty we do. We do not right now but maybe a couple months down the road. We have royal rumble with those characters so i'm interested to know. Is there era another thing that could be like a brand steel like royal rumble that we could load a bunch of people into so i would love to hear ideas of job. What would be a great other simulations to potentially have play out on the podcast the thing about the rumble symbol the brand from canada would tell you that it took a very long time to learn putting on now. It's not like we're on the wheel next week. It just happens. You know it'd be opening. Breath from canada also made our madden game. I had forgotten that oh. I didn't know that when we asked him i knew that then but then in the winter months i forgot what a great and people were killing us all all week only not about the podcast but all the details that we missed in like oh yeah. Can i tell you like because there were so many things like your wife was wearing scrubs rubs and some people said ida yarmulke although that was rebuffed by brand like my jersey on this had kief twenty-six on the back. Nobody like a crazy things so i said hey brentwood for next episode. You told us like ten in the coolest easter eggs we missed and he's like actually i think it would be cool if people just sort of find themselves oh wow allow hands so he's a man of mystery but i think ace yeah like dozens of things that some of the signs were specific to certain characters. Yeah i think he really went like like so far above and beyond what we go down the rabbit horseback. Did i was wearing shoe. We make the on the video without commentary available for people with that easier sure that'd be better anyway. I got one complaint who said that they didn't want us. I think the wrong. I think it you know otherwise they're just went way too fast for for us but somebody i said i would have liked it better with with no pauses okay. Let me see upload the no commentary version you made it unlisted which i got time but i think people like the so much maybe we should've unleashed it to the masses and here's the thing my youtube channel sixty thousand subscribers mona of which has no idea what that is so of like having the video down voted into oblivion yeah i the people who who is zero down votes right now by the way well because it's unlisted is so anybody who wanted it. I think you're all right. You're right but i also like the people being like what the hell is this but then sort of like it by the end yeah. I'm a big believer in getting the product to the people who wanted the most and then not you know. I don't think we have a lot of window traffic. No i think you're right. I think i think that's as we go further and further into this. I think i think that's fair but i think we should suspend brands deal from the wheel until we figure out what's going on there. Yeah wheel yeah so okay. The problem with brad seal is that they are very long and you know the brand steel people like like the journey but you know whatever doing a first of all they just did one this week. If you wanna hear one with the <hes> the lost characters playing survivor to the sheriff to the loss podcasts josh josh way gordon bloom down the hatch. They started. You know there's a wheel on their show too. That's what i've heard. Yeah yeah isn't much. We're not offended ended but it is funny that they have a wheel wheel. There's more of a wheel and lost than there is in. I guess was inside seinfeld's this. I felt i dunno whatever you wanted to yeah. It's all right so but <hes> yeah. I think that's pretty much it for back to the wrestling they are are we done with rest with wrestling simulations. We're only doing royal rumble like do we want to build a car and i think we wanna feel it. Wrestlemainia carpets come naturally. I think like you know. LSU comes on is like. I really mad at what haley strong said last week. I'm challenging her too immature wrestlemainia. I think that's like hard okay so don't delete all of the characters from the playstation game. I don't know what we're gonna do with it. In terms of like what the what the sequel would be another rumble every year also maybe maybe in january or something like that but i would love took. Try to figure out if there's another jumble brand steal what else would be something that would be in that genre all right. We're on the same page you want. Are we ready to spin the wheel or anything else. Okay season three episode. Seven down rose rose spots on the wheel. We're taking a lot off right now by the way this is going to be the smallest wheel we've had since we've one or two of the podcast okay because i'm going to be traveling this week and we don't want to take a week off but we're trying to find something that we can do while i'm i'm on the road coin flip okay carmen sandiego with eric stein movie diaper this census the sequel mechanism atkin ism. Let's not do a brand steal this week and we're not doing. It's off possibly for a while but definitely not for next week. Hey mount rushmore easy the millennial judge. It's easy okay the ro robin but we're not doing that so that's impossible. That's editor at hand with the no movie plus where you're gonna move in new york. There's no theaters heartache takeoff yup. That's fine okay people's choice. We're gonna vote like we got the royal rumble yeah this week in robin akiva is there's turn this around if anyone could do it probably someone but yeah. We could still do that again third wheel. I think that would be a challenge a struggle to get this week. Okay okay if i use technology for you and cameo casts yeah. We could definitely do okay all right so let's go ahead and the launch the wheel or the week. Are you ready. Akiva spin that billy area all right here. We go episode number forty nine next week is gonna be oh oh akiva yeah. There is black magic there. We talked about this came up. It is the census wow cintas senate exciting. I'm very excited about this episode. Okay i think i think people are going to be up for this one. You don't really know the questions on the sense. I don't know them yeah. I'll send them to you. I guess you probably don't have to post yeah can you. What's the site that the census questions are going to be on is going to be where we'll just give a link to go to. We'll give we'll we'll. We'll put the link on twitter find find it on twitter yeah because they don't feel out the sentence we when you know the more people the better the podcast we'll be up before the census goes out. This episode will be before okay fine. I got it. I mean yeah. It'd be a spoiler or if you've got the census in your email. Be no suspense what we we don't have. Our listeners emails definitely figure out a way. Do we want our listeners email spam and then with questions and stuff like that. I think we could start a mailing list. If somebody mckeever robin akiva steal some data if somebody on the vince us why we need a mailing list. I don't think we need it yeah okay. The census. Wow okay is taylor cotter joining us for the census. I mean it's her baby so well other than a real baby. It's a you know she if she wants to. She can okay all right so but she is day job. I presume right because she works at night. Okay well but i don't know if i'm going to build podcast at night. Listen for tale carter will will figure out a time and place all right so i mean the great thing about doing a podcast with you. It's like doing a podcast with me most of the time because i'm you know i'm six days a week twenty four six. I'm open yeah okay. I don't wanna job. I was always open now. I know you're trying to wake me up in the middle of the night. That's i think if somebody was going to do the oral history of rene up. I'd take a keita's availability of all hours of the day and night. I think is a big key to the success of this podcast my best my best ability ability is availability. Is that what you're saying. It's up there. I mean you're you're you so dependable. That's very nice of you. You know you're like a guy who's is gonna go out there and be. I guess like one hundred forty three appearances i think yeah the one thing i'll get is people will like. DM emme a lotta times only answer within like ten seconds of wall. That's insane. I got nothing else going up. I mean the friday's thing is not now. Now i deal that's not ideal but the other you make up for trying to get me to stop keeping shabbat for a few years. That's true yeah yeah. Oh no angry email from libby coming in okay akiva yeah all right next up we're going to get to i feel like it's the end of the show but now we're only going and i forgot we got more to do. We've got a season three episode seven to do today but before we get to that i wanna take a moment and thank our sponsor and i know this is a key his favorite time of the year because the national football league is back and so is bet online dot a. g. and their weekly football pick them contest contest where i'm going to be taking on the other podcast one host for a weekly competition pick five games no spread just pick the winners of five games super easy. The winner is going to be getting money for charity five two thousand dollars to the charity of my choice which we have to pick out once i win. 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Tweeting about the royal rumble also this week a listener listener i am but i saw this pop up in my twitter feed and i was so overjoyed automatically because back in the day little known in fact a young eric stein in myself used to create characters in the WWE video games and we would actually dictate a things in our life <unk> based on the outcome so like which girls should i go out with and we would make a couple create a character and that's pretty much what you guys had so many options the bachelor thirty names into the royal repose girls. They had no choice because they won the royal rumble hundred percents. Eh smackdown live told me it should be this way. So stone cold says so you know that's what you gotta go. Go it exactly all right very nice to have you here with us and we're talking about season three episode. Seven urban of dawson's creek tells dawson's creek fandom mike. How did you end up being the dawson's creek go-to guy well it. It really came at the right time for me. It was basically so when the season one started it was the sophomore year of armenia armenia for characters and that's actually where i was exactly at that point in my life so it was a very parallel world with between dawson's creek and my own life and i was an aspiring film kid myself so i really i had a connection to dos in for better or worse back in the a day right because in the season three also this is available on amazon prime. If anybody wants to go ahead and watch it. I believe all six seasons lynne's mike have you are available. If you go back and watch them they are they are. I have not gone back in every single episode of every single season since the original running the heading nice run so pe net so i would catch that whenever it was on as well okay and filmmaking is going to be at least a part of this episode episode. IQ is this a part of every episode. No it's not important i've ever said but i think it's like the core tenet of dawson leary's beliefs is that like he wants to be the next steven spielberg gilbert yeah. We'll talk about your dawson's creek fan because you and i we were in a fantasy football draft the and we started talking about. How do we get this. How did we dawson's as creek even come up on the we. Are you a fan of it. I didn't suggest it. Maybe i was more amenable to it because i watched it but i don't remember we couldn't even we couldn't track that and figure figure out how it got into well. I remember being very excited. I watched a couple of. CW shows are probably watching us. The syndicated shows before the CW shows would come up when i was in high school school and i remember being so psyched for the dawson's creek show i think they promoted it as like this guy who loves movies and it's a teen drama and also like every every sort of like young male was like super excited what about katie holmes and i remember watching the might mic will remember it was either the first episode or a very early episode could have been the pilot where michelle william's character is talking to her like religious old grandma and she keeps getting trying to get her to say the word penis and and she's he's like say grandma say pianist and my dad walked in the room and i had told him it's like oh yeah. This isn't appropriate show and then he walked in my orthodox rabbi dad he's. He's like yeah so he made fun of me more made fun of me that it was embarrassing that i watched it rather than like maybe shut it off or anything but that was my my sort of intro indiscreet and i watched for a while but i did not make it. I was already in college by the time it ended so i didn't make it all the way to the finale which i've never seen okay all right so the finale is actually fantastic the run on dawson's creek january twentieth nineteen ninety eight to may fourteenth <hes> two thousand and three not sure if may fourteenth is celebrated around the united states or canada has dawson's creek day for the finale aired so six six year run and what was the height of dawson's creek we did did it start off hot and then end up slowly burning out or did it build now. I think the early years like most of of these high school shows kind of fizzle once things get to the college stages. I think most of the iconic moments all happened while they were actually attending the case unlike say by the bell right which got much better than college years so we'll talk about the season three the episode of the plot of dawson's creek for people like myself who are coming into this and not really knowing much about it. Yeah i mean it was basically we a coming of age high school angsty teen drama very it yes. They're very very brooding. Lots of longing looks at one another era. <hes> i'd say at its core the central theme that kind of runs throughout the entirety of the series is the love triangle between three of the main characters dawson joey and pacey and basically anytime tune into any episode there could be any combination joey with one of those two guys and that's pretty much like the main central theme that everything always comes back to yeah did everyone get together with everyone <hes> at least like cross gender during the course of the show pretty much <hes> joey and dawson definitely did joey and pacey definitely did <hes> a PC and jen had actually this was the episode where they tested the waters with their friends with benefits relationship that ultimately does not go anywhere else they they attempt that is michelle williams right. Yes yes yes. Yes okay now. Here's my big thing. The one thing i knew about dawson's creek was the theme song to dawson's creek which is it did not make the cut right now. The tv theme song bracket akiva no it was not on her tv theme song bracket. I think we said it would be a next year if we do it again. But you know where else it wasn't synth rob yeah well well just just to set this up that the the famous tv theme song to dawson's creek. I i don't wanna wait by paula cole for anybody who doesn't remember when a little bit something like book up up and but mike i watched this episode and my watching the wrong show why there was there was different theme music yet. No this i had the exact same. I knew this was the case but when the opening credits came on and it was not paula cole instantly made me like the episode at least sixty percent less oh yeah because could it so to the series but i guess there was a licensing issue for you know the the later releases and the streaming and whatnot so they had to to replace they couldn't get the rights to the theme song. That's it yeah. There was some some snafu with the whole thing so they had replaced. I looked it up. It's run like mad by jann arden. Everyone's favorite singer songwriter. I've never heard of this before frasier first of well. I read an article. I looked into this because i thought like i don't remember. Maybe they switch theme songs every year like weeds date or something like that wire the wire. Did all of those shows the same with a different singer right yeah but i read the pokonos mad so i wonder if like she was like maybe the company that owned that song you you know held that for like a trillion dollars because she is very annoyed that it's not the theme song anymore. <hes> i mean she was sort of a known singer. She was very <music>. Sort of the festival lists fair. Is that a thing. I wasn't lilith fair sars. She was very in that world. I feel like i could to be wrong but i believe is most known song writing career if it wasn't for really fighting the hand that feeds crazy easy that like it's the it's the most known thing about the show. It's very upsetting that it wasn't there yeah i also in looking it up that that was actually not even the the theme song that it was supposed to have originally it was supposed to be a one hand in my pocket by alanis morissette <hes> but but they had used listen promo and everyone loved it so much that they ended up making it the full time team song yeah well no way they could have never afforded that in syndication because a lot of holes out for big bucks okay all right so this episode season three episode seven. I think we were sold a bill of goods akiva about what why live this. We had to talk about this season. Three episode is going to be right up our alley. Well people said that eric are you. Excuse just mike. Are you a yeah. We get it all the time. I talked about that in the opening of that. You guys do the podcast but often i would listen and i've known eric for many ears very difficult to tell when you were talking when he was talking. We actually got this from. Our parents is what we've known both of you. Our entire lives but but honestly we're not actually sure who's talking. Same voice matters same inflections pretty well so my <hes> <hes>. Are you a seinfeld guy. I am okay so so there are a lot of parallels between the pacy and what's michelle williams characters name again jen then pacey and jen and and the jerry and elaine deal in the episode the deal right. Yes yes right sex to save the friendship uh-huh. That's what we were so that this would this would be a lot like the seinfeld. Dilemma guests subplot was but it wasn't sort of the through the main through line necessarily of the story it. It was the b or c plot in this episode. We see plot is barely worth mentioning but yeah that's plot was alien. We mentioned it because it made me. The the plot is actually the best part of the show. Yeah it was not the main story but it was almost like an identical situation jerry and elaine from the it does ultimately actually pan out over the course of a number of episodes after this it was not like a one and done sort of thing but this was the start of the friends with benefits angle between pacey and jen but this episode which is entitled escape from which island is a busy basically like blair witch project spoof which i think that every single TV show did some version of this in the fall of nineteen nineteen ninety nine where the blair witch project was a huge movie in the summer of one thousand nine hundred ninety nine and so very top of mind and they've sort of like a wink to budget time to like oh it's just the blair witch project ripoff and but nonetheless that's what this episode is yeah. I like how they try to like. Masquerade read like they're not ripping it off by calling attention to it but it's just like well just because you say that you're ripping off the blair witch doesn't mean you're not ripping off the blair witch yeah they do that also also with zara. Don't they do that also with like because when you're watching this in every episode of the show the relationship between dawson and joey is so much like a typical girl next door that they literally during this episode mentioned like oh it's like kevin and when he cooper from the wonder years which really is is is there's also a little bit of like archie versus betty veronica going on but reference that during the show it's the show is almost too self aware well at one point michelle williams talked about how that she needed to get home and watch roswell in five minutes where literally the next show on the air so some real nice product integration his asia did they do a lot of stuff like that mike in terms of like winking to the camera. I think it came up from time to time they more so than that specifically. This was almost like audition process for a lot of the future. WB stars at large like i know chad michael murray it was a recurring character. There is an actual spin off <hes> based on one of the guys joey dated for a short period of time. I think scott foley who went onto felicity was also on on it so i think it's really was their marquee show that they they used in a lot of different ways but there were times where there were winks and nods two things one of my favorite moments of all time actually is there's like a breakfast club spin off episode and they're talking about a <hes> grassy now. They're all in detention together and then joey is like oh yeah whatever happened to those actors from <hes> from that movie and then joshua jackson goes on to say well emilio estevez he did those mighty ducks movies. Those were pretty cool. They were my favorite britt. It's like oh god young americans. I guess is the official dawson's creek <hes> spin off how how many episodes that get. I want to say like six and i'm also confident that my wife was one of the only four people in the world who actually watched it eight episodes plus. The unaired aired pilot. I don't think it was long for this world young america now kitazawa watching this episode which is a blair witch project spoof with this too scary for you this episode no it's not such a spooky. There's no there's no chucky dow by the way i was watching hard knocks and the chucky doll came up almost chuck l. jon gruden no chuck adele not so i'm not scared of all hi i'm scared of like scared of actors yeah harmless because there's a lot of which talk here and the witches to prove if you're a witch after this whereas so much talk about burning which is and what they i do too which is so i'm not. I don't wanna get lumped into that. Nothing could happen to the witches now. We're more of a podcast anyway. That's right and and we we stand the gargoyles king not which is on witch island. Mike is witch island which is a big part of this episode. Is that like a recurring hiring thing or is this which island is never mentioned before or after this episode now this this is it like it's one of those things where you know at you know in took totality this did have storylines that are crossing over you know through the season but this entire idea of this which hunt or making this documentary. It was all self contained contained within this episode. I was very confused about the documentary which is being made in this episode by dawson that he talks with katie holmes character for in the beginning of the episode and i guess he works in a video store and they're talking about. She's a book report but somehow like in lieu of a book report. He's making a documentary henry. Is that what what's going on here. I actually pulled this move a few times in high school. Quit tibet needs to write something. I'll just make a stop motion animation video with legos. It'll be fine key to why i did. This is a few connections here one. I did this my childhood friend andrew instead of some instead of some book report. He got a deal where we could make a documentary about rosa parks and we've made it but i remember during the we didn't know to add it so whatever went in in you know. The shot had to go in the thing because it was. VHS in like nineteen ninety-five something from the ceiling fell on my head and it was obviously the most memorable part of the rosa parks on youtube. I think andrew probably still has it. I can ask him if rosa parks documented childhood correspondent but what's crazy is this episode starts starts with with joe. Joey potter not joey porter. Jr. came in sackcloth. Joey potter comes into the video store where dawson works where no one has ever entered other than the other kids right. There's never been a customer ryan. She says hey do you have the crucible. I haven't even read the book i need to. I need to watch the movie because it's due tomorrow and what's insane is. I don't think i've ever watched this episode. I think i missed some of the three episodes but in high school we had in ninth grade or tenth grade. We had watched the cruise. We read the crucible. Nobody wants to do it. There was a blockbuster. My house and i live near the school a lot of the guys who i lived in the city and our schools on the island so i invited like fourteen guys asleep at my house the least lit sleepover ever. We watched the crucible four war school the next day because we had a test on it. We all fell asleep. I think like twelve or fourteen guys fell asleep and i remember a girl called my house. It was probably the only time it ever happened in like ninth or tenth grade and she hung up on me amelia and she told me years later it's 'cause. She didn't like the way i answered the way i said. Hello keep away which was worse than you got. Fourteen fourteen guys together to watch the crucible or the night that we had the sleepover podcast in minneapolis sleepover podcast was way worse but yeah fourteen guys. Just watch the crucible we really. We really should next next next year. Strip by the whole great over to watch crucible it was it was a wild time so the nineteen ninety six daniel day-lewis film yeah that makes sense because this is. This is probably the year ninety nine that we're watching watching it. Okay yeah. I have no awareness of this film that i'm looking at this. IMDB right now and that you could have just made a fake page no idea that this was a real thing the crucible if daniel day lewis is not even getting an oscar nam you know it's not it's forgettable yeah okay so that's somehow is going to lead the crew out a to a witch island okay. Can you help set up. What else is going on here. In this episode i i mean i think it's you know the setup is really just a weak way to get them out. They're like oh the book reporter whatever whatever but they're out and they're you know dawson in is notorious for his filming skills and his aspiring film making a life ends it does pick up the ongoing back and forth between dawson. Joey has pretty much every single episode of the entire series does <hes> in that's you know both in the subtext and then also in the text text which they also call attention to which i thought was funny. 'cause i made a note like oh. They're having which subtext subtext about the relationship between these two lovers but then they actually call out the fact that they had subtext in their own script so it was very meta very mad. Dawson's creek killed dawson that all this aspiring filmmaking and then youtube is going to come along a couple of years from now he he missed the whole wave. He would have been a real influence in his day. You could have been the logan aw this time with all these these videos what what ultimately happens to dawson in the key presents the finale we need a spoiler alert yeah twenty years late so well to continue the meta of it all so dawson ultimately goes to los angeles and he becomes comes a television producer who is the creator and executive producer of the creek which is just the exact show. The dawson's creek was and it shows like the first few minutes of the creek which is just a recreation of a scene from the first episode of dawson's creek do they. We have the song from paula cole in the cree. They could not janardan wound yeah. No that's a the show ends. I just read a book where the book ends with the guy writing this book right so it's such a cop out. The show ends with someone making this show. That's what we should on the last episode of this podcast. You're the pitches robin given the podcast. Yes the next thing that goes on the feels like we should do a podcast about spinning wheel done it. It's a bit of a recap of the recap of it. All i really you know it's it's i mean and it's weirdly fitting ending for what the show is but it's it's pretty ridiculous so we end up learning about the witches on witch island island and then there was one witch who got away and mike to a ghost story also right barely made sense of what what's going on here. Was this a halloween episode. What was the release date on this akiva. I'm going to guess no because it's the seventh maybe it is. Yeah <hes> aired november seventeenth nineteen ninety nine so yes not even like a halloween spooky episode. Maybe they tried to get it on by halloween but there was some scheduling conflicts pushed a couple of weeks <music> push push back because now the the figure at the end of the episode to jump too far ahead but when dawson like plays his movie for the classes like shadowy figures at the end of the episode. Was that supposed to be a ghost my idea. I don't know what they were going. I mean it's not like this. Series is ever set with anything supernatural so yeah exactly this is actually the impetus for supernatural so yeah i mean it was the two lovers it was a ghost who the hell knows yeah. Keep it. Did you follow what was going on. At the end of the episode. I wasn't isn't sure if there was a ghost of who is sort of like scooby doo and name where it was. It was a ghost. I think they want you to like. It's sort of open ended but also who else could it be like either. It's like the people who were you know the the touristy island but it's probably the people from the sixteen ninety s. Did you feel like the guy who drove. The boat should have been played by jamie kennedy kennedy because i had that feeling while watching yeah. There's the guy who's like. I told you kids like weird. Stuff happens here. Don't stay on which island after dark. You're all going to die so i thought maybe that that's who the shadowy figures were. If it was scooby doo it would have been that guy well. Interestingly also kevin williamson was the creator of this and he's also notorious for the screen movies so i feel like there's some kind of connection there where he was trying to like hearken back to his zyppah horror days. Maybe maybe okay. Let's talk about the story line that goes on between and and jen the storyline that ended up getting kiva in a hooked on potentially this seinfeld esque wipe type of friends with benefits yes and about a dozen other movies to come for the next decade. Yes okay do these to have any sort of romantic history. Mike no not really i mean again. Dawson was with both girls and he pay. AC certainly had his his list of female companions as well but nothing ultimately ever does come of PC and jen throughout the entire a serious now. I don't think that we could or should summarize any of this conversation between jen and in. I have those the the names right yes so. Why don't we listen in on this conversation talking about. They're they're gonna. They're gonna set up the deal. Between why can't they have some sort of physical relationship without the intimacy. Let's see love house. This horrible habit of messing everything up does that sex is nice. Well well. Yes it is sex. Good love mad. You toss it into walk. It messes the whole thing up. This is true doc. I'm starting to think maybe casual sex is the way to go. Sexist never casual pacing perhaps but what if both partners agreed to the terms beforehand forehand prenup. Yes exactly like a pre getting busy agreement. I'm just thinking out loud here but the concept of two horny teenagers coming together gather for some gleefully nasty quite parting as friends is positively revolutionary in this day and age sounds killer so cringe and i point out to williams michelle williams who sounds like she is being held at gunpoint point has been nominated for four oscars and we should have been a career ender that seen yeah why can't completely just come together for some some coitus without young sheldon all right so they're gonna. They're gonna agree to it. Is this going to work out. My now doesn't somebody catches feelings feelings now. The the two of them are the of the group the more promiscuous basically when the series begins jen shows up in cape side after her wild as new york and they they never really disclose you know all the details but certainly give the impression that she was out painting the town revenue and casey's season. One arc is primarily about him sleeping with his teacher so the two where joey and dawson have only basically like kissed one another at this time yeah so i think the point was like oh well. We are the two that know what it's all about so yeah. This isn't a big deal at all but then end like it's always awkward or like it's uncomfortable so it just never comes to fruition rooting for them. We go back and forth with them. A couple the times and they end up like hammering out some more of the details of this deal who did it better akiva jerry and elaine or pacey and jen. I mean you can watch the scene without like biting your fingernails looking away with jerry and elaine right right so yeah they they agree no kissing also that's one similar thing between the two deals they get negotiated. Didn't that start from em- pretty woman. Julia roberts says like prostitutes. The kiss which i assume is a little bit different than friends with benefits y- to intimate. It's kind of insane yeah but i mean to be fair. I don't know anything thing about prostitutes or friends with benefits not to mention they already kissing plenty earlier so i don't really see what the problem yeah okay mic and then what else is going on in this episode well outside of the island. We do have this really really bizarre subplot with another one of our characters andy windy so she is not a part of this documentary excursion. She's back at school and apparently <hes> she's like the politeness the police or something like that like like michelle tanner and she's like giving merit to the kids in school who are not looking up to the code of the cape side higher side. I really really bizarre and it was like a scene and a half's worth like i don't even understand why they attempted into which the sin was the principal character principal howard greenwood was he a mainstay on the show yeah yeah he was a recurring in character but not like a premier presence or anything like that but certainly you know pops up throughout the earlier the show i think the core four dawson's parents earns and there's a couple of the core for there's a lot of episodes whereas really just now yes well andy and her brother jack where the introduced just at the beginning of the second season two i guess just have some actual more storylines going on and they folded in pretty much as like what ultimately became the main six of the entire run <hes> actually andy leave towards the end but you six of them that really became the central figures but yes the core core of joey dawson pacey and jen were certainly the overall central figures akiva. Did you have a favorite storyline on dawson's since creek something that you remember fondly i it's more like the opposite where like i'd like to show but it's very aaron sorkin in the fact like no one has ever in the history of the world ever spoken the way that the the the high school or characters doing the show where they just like none of them have ever been in class once but they all we'll have used like every. SAT word in the book and they don't sound realistic and they're all like super precocious but also kind of dumb. It's it's kind of crazy also at the end of the episode. This isn't really a spoiler. The dawson asks the joey for her. PSAT's score because it came up early and she says i how do and she like very seriously says brilliantly brilliantly yeah. You don't say a number. Come on. Give us a number zack. Morris said he got a fifteen hundred one on the on the SAT. You tell us basically doc. Just don't speak the way people speak. They like everyone's just fifty on this show yeah and having coitus yet you basically needed a dictionary canary just to make it through an episode and this was another thing that they also like would refer to frequently. I think in the pilot episode dawson's like we're just a bunch of teens using words that no one even knows what we're saying okay. At least you're aware yeah well. They really called their shot with a lot of stuff on dawson's creek. Mike is there any talk talk about dawson's creek reboot or remake. I haven't heard anything last year was the twenty year anniversary so there was like a lot of coverage <hes> like they did just like an in the room. You know <hes> like reunion type thing but i haven't caught wind of full on reboot. I really wouldn't be surprised just with to own everything. That's come come in addis lately. I think the problem guys is that well. Let's let's sir you mike rob rank the four actors so james vanderbeek show williams josh jackson and katie holmes in how you how you think the career has been post. DC because i think that will answer a question. What do you think who won four. I think that michelle williams is a number one. Yeah i think in terms of fame. She's not the most famous because i think because katie holmes married tom cruise. She has to be number one but in terms of career. It's not a question right. Michelle williams has four oscar gra nominations. That's that's a ridiculous amount has got to be career wise. She's definitely atop fullest teeth ledger like that's right but <hes> uh longest wikipedia page. I would think of everybody i think jay. VDB as last he's on dancing with the stars this month killer on funny in your diet. I mean katie holmes agent and said hey. Do you wanna be stars. They'd say like i'm calling the police if you that again yeah like josh jackson is not considering considering it he i think he's the star of the affair actually had like a pretty solid career on since he did a bunch of movies but like he was on fringe enj- which ran for like six years the fares you know certainly shows also lead so yeah i'd say i'd say <hes> just in in career ria probably JJ second homes third and so forth which is really the inverse of star of relevance within within the show. Your answer is right. Vanderbeek says says yes jackson in five years says yes katie holmes laughs at them and michelle. Williams absolutely doesn't even answer their. I'm glad we got. IMDB bags today a mike so what went wrong for vanderbeek. How did he go from the lead of dawson's creek to did he stay on too long. Should he left you you. It's a good question. I you know what i think happened. He was known as this like wholesome. You know real emotional wreck on the show so i think his acting choices is following directly after where like too much in the wrong direction he did <hes> what the rules of attraction where he was like this coked up drug drug dealer and like really really complete other side of the fence and i think it just didn't quite land so maybe like was in fear of being typecast asked when too much in the other direction and then just became relevant because in the early days of dawson's creek he also has varsity blues which is a big hit and then after that i don't know if he has another big big hip but you would think that he at least has one movie success under his belt akiva go but i'm looking at the movies and stuff that he does in the next like five years he ends up going on back on TV to one tree hill for a year or two probably the play dawson right my didn't he was also on the what was it the apartment twenty-three. He played himself. Yes yes yes. It was a very underrated show enough. I really enjoyed it a lot. He basically it was like a curb. Your enthusiasm type thing where he was playing himself else. Among other characters kristen ritter was also on it and he was just like a hyperbolic version of yeah james vanderbeek but it was actually pretty funny but it didn't make it after a season akiva. He tried to get in on. CSI see he was a recurring character on CSI cyber the word that's the one that was yeah. I think it's fourth or fifth hour many they had the only one that didn't make it like a million seasons in syndication yeah. He's actually been doing some the voice animations mike your kids watch vamp arena. I think i've seen the commercials for it but that's not one of their the staples in the stern house kyw. He's also going to be appearing in jay and silent bob reboot. He was actually in the jay a. and silent bob movie okay all right so yeah. I don't know what went wrong. Akiva i think i think it's a little bit of a typecast thing. He still looks good. It's not like it's still a leading man. I think it's not over for him. I do think he's got a future. He should've started a podcast because i'm sure there's celebrity. Friends should have been the move for him. I wonder if maybe because that he is the star of the show. Do you think he had like the seinfeld thing where nobody could look at him and say oh. It's dawson including finally yeah. His game is strong though i mean that the crying me of hand is is pretty notorious as that at least yeah. I don't know maybe he's too in on the joke is that is that a thing akiva. It's possible also like. I don't want your life right right. The the varsity games like that was a big that was like a beloved. It wasn't like a massive hit but it was a beloved movie. I feel like that didn't but he's playing the same character that didn't help him either. He just had a southern accent. It was the only difference a terrible southern accent. Okay mic. What's the legacy of of dawson's creek. I mean i think it holds up in like you know in the history books as one of the premier teen dramas was you know as far as these type of things go i think because it really was sort of the first of many you know obviously saved by the bell and nine oh two one oh but i think nine to own particular think was geared ever so slightly towards an older viewing audience. This really was meant for tweens to be watching so it really did kick off like the whole. WB of running dramas so i think it's still fairly well respected in you know in that circle yeah just to put it in perspective. I was curious to know <hes> whether it really put the WBZ on the map so the WB according to wikipedia started in nineteen ninety seven buffy i guess was the first big big show on WBZ but i guess that then dawson's creek then came after and then probably became the flagship eggs ship of the WB the CW right starting at six and a half million viewers but basically went down every single season <music>. I'd say the quality of the seasons followed a similar trajectory. Okay all right anything else that you want to share with us about dawson's creek or any long-held dawson's creek thoughts that you've had i mean i really it was a very impactful series in in my own life in many regards i once after <hes> showed up with some frosted tips in the premier season two i i followed that suit pretty quickly away pretty notoriously so that that was something i also the the girl i was dating at the time she actually thought like she lived inside of dawson's creek herself so she would speak to me like you know someone scripting her lines which was absolutely insufferable. Wait and then oh yes okay so come on the show so the girl the girl who won the royal rumble ruin your girlfriend exactly no she she was just like super super melodramatic and she was so in love with this with the show that i think she fought like we were actually on it so she would cite things in the manner that like katie holmes i would say on the show like as if we're living inside of a television show like she was psychotic yeah well that's. That's an intense story yeah it was. It wasn't great rob. Did you ever have a big crush on katie holmes because i certainly did. I think eric when we went through. The show said like he was a big game home. Stand also at this show was kind of off my radar so i didn't it was not really a big katie homescan. Can i tell you something. WBZ shows that were on at the same time. Yes the jamie foxx show which i don't remember sister sister her smart guy unhappily ever after the parenthood jerry kelly kelly and my favourite nick frino licensed teacher yeah. Maybe this is where katie and jamie you know they're they're mutual interests you met at these the WB parties i was definitely a huge katie holmes fan as well she she was definitely one of my mytalk teenage crushes for sure yeah i mean i think she's had a weird career. Also i feel like that. She's more famous for being married to tom cruise and scientology then really anything she's done post dawson's creek taino that she was in the she was in the one of the batman movies. She was in one yes. She was in wizard behavior. The cold class yeah well. She's two hundred and really like choosing the ice storm mr hager. I remember i saw teaching mrs tingle and the gift it was like she she had a good run of like be minus movies but i'll thing happens like she had. Tom cruise's kid. She's like beyond set for life. You know she doesn't need to work and she and she's so public. Every time she literally i googled her. She went out of the house yesterday in some sort of bra and it's sold out that minute like she's like a fashion icon and she's very wealthy. I don't think she wants to needs to work. Okay mic fall full circle. I guess he was on donovan and then yeah. I don't think she really works anymore right very little she was she was saying a mysterious relationship with jamie foxx for many in the years that i think just ended. I was reading about this a few weeks ago. It's like <hes> katie. Holmes and jamie fox call off their six year relationship never ever photographed together once yeah yeah okay us that in the batman movies than a so maggie jilin hall replaces her character right. She was in the in the begins. The nagy jilin hall replaces her character are but then maggie hall isn't she the other wife in brokeback mountain with michelle williams yeah and and michelle williams williams husband is in the batman movies. Yeah what a what a tangled web between the joke of the joker should j. DB maybe ah after joaquin phoenix. Maybe he can jump in rebuilt his career. It's can we ask. Can i ask and we end with asking mike. I <hes> question sure this is a census. Yes preview the center so mike is so. Do you know what the census is that we're doing. It's pretty self explanatory. We are asking our listeners questions and then we're going to gamble on on their answers to some questions are like who do you like better woodyear buzz light year or are you a blinky which is famously keble quantity to fan. Can you right now on the spot come. We have a spot for about three more questions rob can you can you guys come up with another question two so we could add to the census for next week's podcast okay as it pertains to this episode specific could be about anything on earth. No no blink warning has no bearing. It could be literally. I mean if you want one like you can but i it could be about anything on earth. What do you want to know the answer to his hot. Take i'd like to get to the bottom of is hot dog a sandwich so i think it so done that with our listeners think we can edit to this. We're not going to run out of questions or i find. Give me one more from utah. Should we let mike make his case of what it is. You have a strong opinion yeah. Do you ever take or not want to lead the listeners now. I don't think i should leave the listeners in any which way but i am curious to hear what uh everyone actually thinks okay i could make a strong case either direction so we should ask a hamburger is a sandwich see gets hundred yeah. I don't think there's is as much of a naysayers on that. One aren't just aren't getting the right answer. We're guessing what the listeners thick look how we're gonna get in the mind of an RENFE orion listener okay all right. I can i give you one. Please okay popeye's or chick-fil-a okay. That's good now. It's a little weird for me because i've never had either okay mic one lead based on what you know. Your wife think chick-fil-a has got got some shady politics so i'm probably team. Pop is okay but what percentage of our listeners are. We'll say the question. I'll edit to the census. I used to have a driver's ed teacher who the whole driver's ed was was i drive her to popeye's chicken and she needed on the way back <hes> and we had a great time and her name was like carmen santiago. Where in the world is carmen santiago anyway. Yeah popeye's chick fil. You don't wanna throw wendy's in there as a third choice. Are we doing multiple choices. Yeah yeah you could do three choices choices. It's a google form. You can do multiple choices okay. I didn't know that too but there's a few there threat yes. I thought that you and i are guessing the percentage of like gog. What percents said popeye's now. You're gonna throw in like a third party candidate into this. There's there are a few minority had the yeah the spice it up a little bit like a win these chicken jack. I guess all right. Here's something i've been wondering 'cause you know riding the subway around new york city you see sometimes the times and i have some issues with it. Do you guys think that it's socially acceptable for adults to plug their ears closed when the here the subway coming <hes> because i see this frequently specific question but i like it. I think these are the kinds of things i think about the subway. Coming here are grown adults. Who can't the deal with the noises that a subway makes standing there holding your ears. It's it seems embarrassing to me. It's weird. It's weirdly loud right but i've also i wrote the subway twice. Lisa dave for many many years and i don't think i ever noticed that once. Is it a new thing. I don't know maybe there's been some reports about how subways cause long-term longterm sheree spots or they might have super hearing yeah some super among us okay all right. Well mike. Thank you so much for joining us to talk some dawson's creek. Do you want to a plug anything. I knew that you and eric very hard at work on a number of projects at any anything you want people to check out not really eric. Eric did pitch you but it's a little funny that we had we. We had eric's friend on before him when he's been on the wheel these. Are you willing to be an under study for anything. That eric was committed committed to yeah. I mean we have pretty similar interests across the board. I mean again. We've been friends for so long so we've certainly run in similar. <hes> interests circles so yeah sure okay. Let me let me know all right at stern. Mike is on twitter so you could follow follow him. There and kiva is at key twenty six <hes> that mike who is your rooting interest in professional sports. You know i'd say right now. The giants are looking forward to seeing what they got going on the season. Okay nobody said. Did that giants nobody. You said they're looking forward to seeing what the giants have store this season. We're gonna be fine rob. I think they're like seven and nine team mm-hmm. I know as a jet fan. I'm rooting against it but yeah. I and we have to play them also november. I don't think there's bad as people think i know. What are you going to do all right so mike. Thank you very much for joining us. Akiva and i are going to be sending out a sensit- or posting in a link to a census coming out in the next couple of days or anything else. No thank you so much mike. This was fun and let us think about the mailbag mailbag coming before the episode is a one time thing or should we try this once in a while. Look i like this because i wouldn't have wanted to like. It would have been weird if you're or not referencing anything that happened in the dawson's creek part of the episode when we do the mailbox so i like doing it linear. Everybody's along along with us on the right plug. You cover your ears this podcast listeners who put in the plugs for nap sure okay all right. Mike thank you again akiva great work and then we will look for the census. They get rid of a good one by sir.

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LWW 52: Mailing Lists Part Two

Lesbians Who Write Podcast

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LWW 52: Mailing Lists Part Two

"Welcome see lesbians you right. We clan Liden and TB Martinson conversations about writing and lesbian fiction. Join us as we drove back the curtain. On the writer's life hello and welcome to episode fifty two of Lesbians. You write this week. We're GONNA carry on a conversation about mainly lists talking about which providers you go in and what we go in our entire responders joining me. Your haste play line is my co host the woman who gets moist at the mention of mailing list. Tb MORGANSON HELL ATV. How are you today? I suppose to follow. That is going to be very very moist this entire recording. I'm not lying. You should have heard daily listener waxing lyrical about Magnolia. She was like but I bought so much to say and I was like don't worry. Tv Wigan have another episode about it and how little face just lit up like a Christmas tree. Why do you look the word moist? We've talked about this. Most people cringe but you just love Moist Turning. Leoni TO LEAN INTO MOIST LEANING. Lonzo gabby moist in our lives. Listen I think so when it went so much moist. What you picture in your head cake. Obviously expecting something else. I picture of Moldy wet sponge now. I might pick something else but I'm going to gather right. Tell me about Your Week. Been pretty good. I am happy to save. I'm halfway done with the third. Uh Season of girl up happens which is a kind of a relief to get this one done. Because as I mentioned on the last episode I LEFT SEASON. Two with a bit of a cliffhanger and I felt really guilty for not being able to you know tackle. That is quickly as I would have liked because you know writing his heart in all these projects take long time even though you want to like bash out books. You just can't really so some I'm happy to be tackling that but I'm also getting the fear of God. They've been waiting for two years for this. And what if it if it really? What of my continuation really sucks. So I'm where you were last week where you're like. Where'd your career is? GonNa like this crash and burn like. Oh this is it. This is over. They're going to hate this way to this long and it's just good to go. You're not the only or is that just react to these. I'm always thinking GonNa fail so I have that in the book. News and audiobook news I just received the first fifteen minutes of woman on donor. Haven't listened to it yet but I get to listen to that sometime later today and I received a completed version of reservations of the heart which I need to spot check but we we had a proof listener so I don't have to prove it which. Oh my goodness I am so thrilled about that. So thrilled instead of lake. Ten hours of work. It's only GonNa take me like twenty minutes to spot checking in. I have so news. I've been wanting to watch the TV shows accession on HBO. Have you heard about it? Not Really I'm when he signed it wasn't session. It kind of rings a bell but no okay so again wanting to watch it and I was hoping like. Hbo Lake during the Holiday Season would have liked the special signing up for them so HBO Finally Finally Discounted Tonight. Ninety nine a month. Great after I finished season. Three of pulled arc. I'M GONNA switch over in succession in a wash to end of season. Three upholding mother fuckers nother cliffhanger people to like cracking on the season Florence. Accession has to wait on the little said but I really surprised how much liking polder in the writing as a as a writer myself. I'm really liking. How keeps sucking me into each episode like every time? I'm like oh I can't handle this anymore. This guy's really cruel and I can't do this anymore. It's really is a roller coaster. But I can't stop watching either so for would be writers. I recommend watching it because it does teach you a lot. I was like those kind of shows as well where you can sit back in a mire the writing as well as well as enjoying the product a bit light. We would just took off air before we started. Recording about safety can sell and have brilliant her writing. She's a master of romantic comedy and as well as enjoying books quite often just have to stop in the middle of his eight engage. Wow this is a great thing. I do like that. It's kind of weird though because it kind of knocks you out of the narrative in but There are times where I'll reread passages or sentences. Unlike got a wish once I can write a sentence like this. Just won't I'm sure I've done it once. Maybe twice by. Forget them because you forgetful. It's still hard to remember everything. So so that's what I've been doing. What about you had this week since we lost weight? Which has been about four or five days? You'll be pleased to know. Got Great News on my setup by this this morning. Gina won't let things like doing. You'll set up like bogging into binding. Akiba buying it you Chen. It takes a little time. Doesn't it but anyway this morning? I wanted money monitor keyboard and are you ready because it wasn't quite over one hundred pounds and if I spent one hundred pounds I got free delivery printing TV. We're not so Yes I would've printed as well so now I've just got to get my Chad which I'm GonNa go Do Tomorrow Say I'm really pleased? Actually that it took me. It took me a little while. Yes and import. We took a couple of hours today but united this time well spent to get a good setup going say. I'm pleased with that in other news. Ivo Say sent before we say before he say I do at my nate. My upcoming novel of two bloggers and magazines this week. So that's good and I'm getting it ready sentenced to walk this week. Say by the time this pocock comes out Monday. Iligan and by the time has come. Pocos comes out. It'll be two weeks to launch. That's very exciting. March ten this for that one in. How are you feeling about it last week? You were worried You're ending your career with this book. How are you feeling now? I'm feeling a K. As I can be on Spanish I think there's always this little united so nagging worries nine run-up to launch just to slow. You know your your face in. Your tone was not really reassuring. I'm feeling great. Tv So good about it. I think I'm feeling better than a was loss week. Say last week everything was going to cont this week. We might just be waiting. We might just be waiting for the lift to hell or would it be the downward escalator. I'm not sure what you still experience in the highs and lows where you think maybe maybe this will be a good. I mean my those haven't changed. I love this book. I think it's the best recovering and that. I think that that's probably what you should be thinking. Isn't it when you just about launch book Say I'm happy with it on. I loved the cover of a good feedback. And I've had a little bit of love and says you media this week as well so that's been nice in a we'll see how it goes but it is interesting this week. I did see I posted it on twitter. There was a thing about j. lay and just it was just before she did her amazing health. Time thing at the Super Bowl this year and the ups and downs. She's going through and everybody does detonate in that career. Not Saying this is. This is a poor down. Who knows but everybody has these ups and downs in their daily lives and in their careers yet and Herod Vice. Just keep going so whatever happens with this book I will keep going I did. I usually don't watch the clips. People put on social media because they adds up and eats away my day. But I did watch that one. 'cause you shared it and then also you know who? The fluck Toll Jaylo that she pretty much sucked. Right is like a god-like figure by left. She was just so damn swath in that it wasn't Jay and just as she was chatting about it and it looked like she was just speaking to a group of students or something. J. J. lays had ups and downs in head Korean. Say Take Everyone Jay's been there what would Jay Naidoo last week in the US what we need to ask ourselves. Tb They that's the the history tight over they cirque they say what would jd. When you're feeling a little worried. What would j date? I really enjoyed Wyndham. Which is talking. You could tell. It was very heartfelt because she she started getting a little emotional at one point in the I saw like one woman was like patting her on the back. Like it's hard people to be a creative input yourself in. It's hard to talk about it in. Show those emotions because you are put You're showing vulnerable side and it's not an easy thing to do and every day we're doing this career way. She vulnerable side say Kudos to us and but many Kudos to everyone else out there. He's doing it showing up getting the what done anyway. And the other thing I've been doing today is an tomorrow. I'm going t the Department of Transport in Westminster in London and the LGBT grapefruit public transport. Invite me today a LGBT history month took on Lesbian Romance in my book. Say That's what I'm doing tomorrow. Lunchtime again speak to lots of department people which is random isn't it was not expecting it's news at all but good for you. Random talks basin yet. They always come actually from people. Read my books. This one came from M. L. Vehicle. Rachel she works department transplant and clearly has something to do with the group and she right asked me if I'd do it. I've done one for the Phil. London transport which is different from the Department of Transport. Say I went to London transposal twice and I've been to the Metropolitan Police. Lgbtq as well once said. I am the person to come in and speak team in national bodies an Algebra Team. History month excellent. Are you going to drop the podcast name? So we can you know I will. I will be talking about the books I do. In the CASA DI say have been excellent weight. Go you thank you. So let's get onto comments. what you got all right. I have three comments on the site. Komo Omarosa any French ones. They French comments. We added a comment from Jilin. Rachel who responded to you my tedium email recently in. They both enjoy the POD. So thank you very much for listening in. We had a comment on Pi. Being from NYLAND's this is an older comment for some reason being is not notifying me now. I'm getting comments so I just happened to remember this morning which I was glad I did. Because NYLAND's asks have we ever run across options to translate into Braille? That is a question at nine. Nine nine nine never have. I'm sure there are probably the options but I know them. I mean I know you. Don't you have a book? This translate then determine which I know is not like Brown has not Brian Is. I mean you're the one has more experienced getting into the translation side and I haven't I haven't done that yet. Yes but I've always wanted to contract. That's about Saif Al Sam. I'm sure that on. I'm sure there are like that as the Royal National Institute for the Blind and stuff and I'm I'm sure that they do have that facility say by wooden exactly yes but it's an interesting question. Thanks for asking. What about you on your side eighty-one love you this week or no well? One President did cite. Thanks Jane she writes in and says she loves the pool cost. He's only just come into and we're both great. Excellent all right. Thanks Jamie thanks to meet you again. Let's get on to the week's big question which is many lists part two. Which one did you change? And what should you put on? Your hotel responded sequence say TB. Tell me which one each you chose. And why when I started thinking of setting up a mailing lists this was way back in the dinosaur age of mailing lists so it was what two thousand thirteen in the one. Everyone seemed really like the one everyone seemed to us. Was MALE CHIMP SO I I did a little research late. All the authors in the authors that I was falling about advice of how the launch their using meal chimps so I simply chose it because it worked for them but I mean should we should we. Should we back up a bit in outline? I think you have a list of in criteria. You should consider before you do choose. Okay background information. I've been told listens. Yes I think you should consider firstly price. This is quite a key consideration because remember that whatever you cheese price was you're going to have to pay every single month say and it can add up my main list. I think probably I can't remember the exact cost but when I I chose I chose May Malcolm many. Because you said everybody was going for that one and it was free up two thousand subscribers saint made sense when you haven't got much money which you'd have as much beginning and to invest in your business e guy for the free option so. I think Mary Jo does well. May Light. Does it as well doesn't it? Same Pelican Mueller. Lights only one thousand subscribers. If I remember correctly Yeltsin subscribers for free yet and nothing mountain is it still too as far as I haven't looked in well I'll enough. You do have male chip now. Because that's what I use for Ponca. Lehrer really the but no yes. It's still two thousand. But when we talk about their limits obviously you can still have to the subscribers but you can't use Options if he wanted US CERTAIN OPTIONS. You have to pay the same price because as soon as you start having to pay. Then it can go up quickly. It guys with numbers of scribe inside Edna. What is all but if you look at all the different services maybe when he hit three thousand it goes up to another level I use convert kit and when I get when you hit three goes into level when he hit five thousand it goes up to another level so you just have to look at the price and think about how quickly you planning to expand because you want a few brief yourself. You don't want to have to keep check jumping around mainly because it's a painting the also and I'll tell you about my experience of that feature previous l think about what you're trying to achieve and how. How many people you planning on board if he just doing this organic Links in the Front Baggio Book and may be linked on your website. You don't WanNA grows quickly but you'll grow with better forty subscribers so an end to keep your price down. Of course you can say just cut out people from humanely. So he's got a mainly safer reasons. You got two thousand eight hundred and you coming up on a three thousand person limit until you jump to the next pricing tea and you might want to have a look at all the people on your main lists that have happened to mail in like a year and this is very common then you go in and you you email them and say hey. Do you still want to hear from me? And you do that two or three times and if you don't hear back from them you cut them out the main list because you don't want to pay for people to be on your mailing list and I'm GonNa make me meals but do email them two or three times. Because sometimes people can open them without opening them. I know the mystery of the mailing list. What do you mean can them with open? Well they can read them without clicking on them. Satellite-based you can you can read them in the you know the opening bit of you email. But if he don't click on the image than it doesn't Kansan which is why email him two or three times to say. Hey do you still want to be on this? That's the pricing ease of use in other ones. Say I'M GONNA live. Many less are a difficult thing to get your head around and it takes a lot of work to set them up but when I say work is probably like three or four days of focused. Maybe not even that much but at least two or three days of focus I remember. That's why it took me to sell my convert. Maybe maybe a week for that. Because I had a lot of resistance to it so resistance because you're going to have it because no one wants to set up a mailing list but the thing is once it set up it set up is one and you leave it and it works for you. Say It really really is a something. It's really good investment of time. The third thing you want to think about is do they deliver well. How stable is the service so may light? I know has had a lot of issues with stability and delivering emails now. This service is all about delivering emails. Say if the service is not that stable. Maybe you should have a thing and I I. I've heard a lot of issues about my life. Maybe they've got better over the last year. I haven't had that many in the next few months. And what what about? Ye You know I. I tried Maili because for a while I had two separate services using male champion is using Miller lite can say it for another Seeing an I really can't remember why did that. This was years ago but I I have this pillow on my couch. Says Scream here when I'm frustrated and I was utilizing this pillow training setup Miller lite because I did I did not take innocent. After I've been using mail trip for several years so familiar with you know manly but I did not like their service and so I stopped there can only scream into a pillow for so long but we also say that there are a lot of people are very happy with my life is a and it is a cheaper option So I haven't used it so I can't say that I go people he equally unhappy with. Say what you need to do is just do research and see which one suits you yeah. Everyone's personalities different. Everyone's tech skills are different in certain programs. Fit other people better than I mean. On one of those people were we all know. I lack extreme commonsense. So so I maybe mail or settle for someone who had really good common sense than I just wasn't seeing him so I will say that when I I started I started without him and I was pretty happy with that I did. I did have issues with the usability that as well and I'm someone who's pretty familiar with cans of stuff insert gag here But let's on content management systems. And I understand all the back ends of the publishing platforms little that. Say if you understand that is not that big a deal. I don't think too. I mean you will have to learn it. But it's it's not. It's not like a foreign language to however I did find Mao Lebedko and I was sold on convert gear however switching to convert. Kate and he didn't twenty sixteen was painful but what I did and this is something that I would recommend in happy to anyone is I hired. Someone say you can get experts on these services and I got an expert on convert. I paid eighty five pounds for one hour of time and it was invaluable. Because you just don't use it in one hour like she's this is what she does for a joke now because there are so many people who are switching but but if you WANNA learn it it's the shortcut to learning and then after that I didn't probably took me about three days to switch. It was painful but is one of them. I really recommend that. Because when I hear people say why don't have the technical know-how to set up either a website or a newsletter. I forget what it's like last week. I was having a problem with my my laptop in hopped on Youtube in I was able to watch video and fix it and so one of my partners. Like how do you fix that does like a youtube? I don't know how people existed without you without like learning how to change light bulbs in foreign countries which sounds like it should be really simple. Both there were a few like wolves in Ireland does like this. So it's one of those things where there are tools. Most of these companies has Has how to videos. You can watch and they really do go through step by step. And that's how I learned. I have to see it in. I can copy it so when you say you don't have the technical know hell set aside some time to watch videos in learn it because it is one of the things if you really do want this as a career you're gonNA have to learn these things so you're going to have to get over that. I don't WanNa do it and get over that resistance like clarity with Burkett you just kind of have to decide one day or this is the thing. I'm GonNa do it and just do it. Yeah I signed a week to do it and it took me down near way to do it because I probably fit. Phil fouled around to the first day. I don't do. I don't WanNa do it once. You've got the subscriber. So you've got a trick. Loose ascribes coming in 'cause you've got links in the front and back of your book and You giving away something amazing for free to get the men as we told you today last week. And what do you do with them? when you when a sign up to you this what you do is you put them on a norte. Responder Watch on say he's under so when someone. When you get a subscriber who clicks subscribe button you have to actually in especially if they're subscribing to get that free book you have to have a system set in place where you welcome them like after to get through all the emails entering their name and clicking that they really mean to subscribes who can cover all the legal basis for collecting Emails you need to be able to welcome aboard and you need to be able to deliver free product and you want that to happen almost immediately. So what I think. Clermont's trying to say with responders is like once you hit that submit button and you get through you get a welcome email. Thank you so much for signing up to my newsletter you signed up to get a free copy of a woman lost in the bonus chapters here to links to do that and you want to be like friendly. Ub Wealth meaning. You want to let them know that you're appreciated. But but that's not the end of the relationship right there so the auto responders I think I have. It depends what list you're coming on. And the reason I had two different go into later but either have a for email sequence or five email sequence. How many do you have on yours? Exactly the you welcome. Yes that includes the welcome okay depending on which. Lychee come in them. I have seven nine. Wow really woke me yeah. I'm very very tight. I'm not surprised though. Do you want to dive into your yet? So if you sign up for my madness. Let's let's take the nine state the nine emails one safety sign up the button. You enter your email address. Any say yes and then I sent an email saying welcome his the free book and I talk about About rising it and then I tell them what they can expect from me now. They've joined my list the next day I send them another amount giving them the links the free book again just in case they haven't done it. I also send them a link on that same email. There's a link to my coming out story on my block and Jose linked to a funny I which is the day in the life of north which I recorded about four years ago and it still makes me laugh when I watch it. It just basically made void doing any winding three days later. I give them more free stuff. I gave them the Prequel to the London. Raymond series just to see if they might like to get into that if they haven't already and also another story these freebies new Nye the Prequel to the unemployment series and the short stories once upon a caravan which has been around for a while. It was received it Okay onto recently. Not just to annoy Raining Sad. Tv looks really sad. I didn't get my free beacon around to Eagle to the specialist. Tb list nothing then say Now five days in two days later I sent him an email saying. It's good to talk and I asked him six questions about the Reading Habits. They just basically say things like. What would you like to see? More of England's fake What you think's missing. What other Germans erade? Where do you live? How many what did you find out Bama books and how many of them have we rent? So that's why interesting questions because you get information from them I do. I can local those responses and then I can say of the pass by is how many people have wanted this in a lesbian fiction. And then I can say Maybe I should write that next not just ignore it but you know go to then Then three days or so funny how resistant you could be like. It went through that for this. And you're like whatever can three days later I get another email saying hey did you know I I hate to poke costs and I drive them to my website fool. That has been book club and I bought a drive them. T- that has been see right website for up Oguz three days later. I sent him Messing his my favorite book and I give them a list of. Oh my new favorite books and this is hosted on the website so this is to get the droid them to my website. So the books that I list there and then they might have in the grammar website as well and I asked him to send it back Their favorite book three days later said ice sentiment is remote saying let me entertain you. Give them all the links to all my books and again. I'm driving back to my website and I'm Austin to me on Amazon and Bob Emission head when you said let me think that's your deadline TV three days later I said is say. Hey you fan of audio books and I give them a link team. Uday page again on my website and these are will go graphics on them as well and then about ten days later say when they think Busselton. I haven't I send them an email with picture of May sitting on my wife's parents porch in Australia. Drinking in ozzy bear saying hey reviews make me happy because I'm sat with a bear in the sunshine. I'm so happy there and I also if they'd be Sekondi to review any of my books that they may have read and liked and say that is a twenty nine day. We'll tell you respond to sequence. Today's emas will go out to those people. Essay unsubscribe some people. Luisita UNSUBSCRIBE. Some people are like why does she keep sending me these fucking emails unsubscribe and that's fine as I said last week if you don't to be on my list name problem but we'll say people respond to these emails and jam relate. I responded as well say. I'm on responded straightway. But I'll respond within a week. I kind of Said side a couple of times a week to respond to these emails and obviously they're going to respond more to the ones. I often questions in say the ones I often the questions. And the ones. I asked them to their favorite books of the ones that I get the mice responses. Because I've asked them direct question the rest is just more. There's no direct questions asked but the whole point is to try and develop a relationship with your reader and then at the end of that twenty nine days. Say let's call it a month. They do not get any of my general every two weeks emas in that time. Say That time is just save the first month that just getting the orders wounded emails and then after that they click into my noman. Listen and I get a email from me every two weeks as we outlined last week thinks from you need to Redo oarsmen team at Clare. Tell me what you did. Basically almost the same thing like the it the welcome email and then you get an email shame or I do ask a question which is where most people respond to that. Most people say not. Everyone's going to respond to your e mails when there are some good you respond mice people we should say as people do not respond to be honest. If everybody responded I would be overwhelmed. So I'm came. That's another aspect. We'll have to discuss about the whole newsletter thing responding to emails but like for one of the questions. I asked him because they share a bitter beltway. I wrote a woman loss which is the Freebie in and I give them the spoiler alert. Hello Malaysian so. I wrote a lesbian book in I share like you know how when I was coming out in early nineties. There were a lot of represent it was. There wasn't a lot of representation for lesbians in film and Books on TV. But I asked him you know do. Do you remember certain things or what? What ones do you like now? Interesting enough one responded Those living in Ireland in some responded to that in a suggested a show which you just tweeted about because I hadn't heard of it before but I get a lot of great. Tv shows movies suggestions and everything and one of them was the last tango in Halifax in I really liked to show I honestly can't remember who told me this but it was one of those things where I got this useful nugget from someone who was kind enough to take time. How other data say hello? Give me the suggestion in a really enjoyed showing and you just tweeted yesterday. They're coming back and I thought it was done now cited Yup. I thought it was done as well and not series is any light four or five F. sites. Apparently they keep doing this. I Alex wasn't just like two episodes. Yes I think it was. Yeah it was like a Christmas special waiting yen. But it's a it's an example of how you are developing this relationship with readers so they're sharing something with union respond. I usually do try to respond to most of the emails. I get sometimes. I get extremely overwhelmed with emails. Lake this past weekend like we were discussing when we did. Our teams like you pull from the list of your subscribers and I put out a call for people to join my art team this past weekend and I was expecting hoping I was hoping like maybe I'll get fifty more or greeters. I got almost three hundred emails and I had to. I had to open in ever seal email. I spent a lot of time in email this weekend. And it's one of those things where you do have to be careful because I know you and I both told me. Send out newsletters. We are chatty and we do ask questions you do it twice a month. I usually only do it once a month. Like how you enter giveaway to answer a question. I've asked so how'd you? How'd you find time to read all those emails twice a month and do read them? I generally put aside some time. Say I only apply very quickly and honest if you apply T. When my terraced respond to emails O apply within a week but sometimes I quoted in because I wasn't looking at them but I think people are came with that they they. They understand that you doing the stuff with the Friday emails. Send Out All all hyped to apply again within a week but sometimes I if I'm doing other things but I find that people there already fine with that but you guessed McGrady lovely emails from people on the old terraced boondoggle an APP. See Lovely one the other day from a woman who said that. She's replaced me. It's not as the first lesbian. Fiction will further. She read and I helped to come to terms with. She was because she was married. Straight marriage at that point. She's just about to get married to a woman and said she said thank you so those these emails of all emails am on January very lovely. But it's really nice when you make an impression on someone's life and I probably haven't replied to that yet but as any two or three days so I can but I think I think that's the key is like you can get everyone with email and you send that email you will get back. Say I always think that is probably not to reply quickly and I don't think that every single every single morning my get to apply like if somebody's if somebody sends Mini Mall saying thank you for the free book adept imply. There's like some emails. Were especially if you're just joining my entering the giveaway. I've asked him a question like I think this month was like what month do I hate the into January and if they just wrote back January. I'm not going to be like thanks for answering because I don't think really expecting it and in some sometimes I get especially with the Autoresponder emails where they share very moving emails and sometimes I'll read them in L. Need a couple of days to process it because some of them. They're showing their vulnerable side. And I just don't want to make thanks for joining like I want to give him a little more heartfelt so it does take time but like you. I don't respond usually set aside two to three hours every weekend or I'll sit down and get through as much as I can in and if I can't get through it all in. They have to wait till the next weekend. Because I only have so much time each day will they? Yeah that's interesting. Isn't it that we did the same thing Yeah if if somebody emails me they have to wait until that time where I'm ready to do it and sometimes I think last night I just though I'm just gonNA. I think I had a few miles yesterday and I don't actually know ten minutes. I'm going to reply. It's funny I did it last night too. Which is it normally my day but only when we living the same life tv but you know what I was wondering are great thing because They they send out these emails automatically. But it doesn't mean that you you know you have to write them. You have to make them chatty but some people say well. That's been disingenuous. No it's not what you write the email. This is just like an automated system that helps you go back every two days ago medicine email now but you can respond to them say it's actual communication in some people were like. It's the same email link. We can't literally respond. I think we both have like what or thousands of great we can't right but original email. The four thousand people nine especially since you have an email sequence. All you do is rail but as we said as well as you just Abeille demonstrated from your point of them is to get shipped Then you can pick up redes- for your team in a big Betas and you can also pick up friends. Actually I've made some lovely readers who've become friends from from just joining might name list and you know there are some of my very early trusted readers now and it is really lovely and the people are so invested in your career in initially to do it and then You know you become friends which is nice save started early put effort in Bill. Sadie engage. Be Nice bill boned. It'll be lovely anything else to say teeny there will. There is one universal rule. Don't be a Dick Diabetic. Can we go with a different one? That's not so male Canales GonNa say become scholley. His big aggressive people know. Which would you prefer? What about what about debut Was it want months across between twenty? Come to explain a word. We demonstrated Eilat commonsense or Alexa Ryan. The comments tell us which he'd prevent to be. That'd be addicting David Twenty one. I don't think we've found the word I want you. Okay all right. We'll get suggest like a word. Yeah please suggest a word just GONNA go. This is GonNa be dangerous so I hate this Chat on my list has been useful. One other thing we should say. Is that the lesbians you ride meet? Up Event is still going ahead on March. The eighth at summa stand coffeehouse in London. If you'RE GONNA COME. Can you please email us and just last night? We'd love to see anything else. Say TB. I hope everyone has a lovely day. 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All right, everyone. You got Robin land keeping the vibes live with the Nate Dogg. Tributo Royal what's that you might ask? Well, it's a combination tribute and a memorial. Yes. On March fifteenth twenty eleven Nathaniel Dwayne HALE who we better know as dog passed away from complications after having a couple of strokes. He left behind a body of work. That includes the best hooks that rap has ever seen. We're gonna go right into some music by Nate Dogg. And then we'll come back in talk. Some more about him. Tell. Like. The. A lot of. Wow. Cool. Me cruel. How? Do they? All right, Nate Dogg. He was born on August nineteenth nineteen sixty nine. And you might know him from the chief classic regulate or from ludicrous, saying area codes or maybe from his role in fabulous can't deny it. Or from the infamous. Smoke weed every day on Dr Drey chronic two thousand one album, Nate Dogg helped to make these tunes and more popular hits of the time. So and in order to measure the impact of Nate dogs hooks. We must first define what a cook is okay hook. It's a musical ideal short rift or passage or phrase that is used to popular music to make a song appealing and to catch. The ear of the listener. Nate Dogg is the undisputed king of. Let's go into a couple of more songs and take it. Actress. Probably. Still tied. Next wishes. Needed. You could tell. Effect. For seats fact. Smoking. She too. What you think? Nickel. Cohen. Wow. Y'all snoop on next up. Trai? Right. Thank god. It's Friday now. A few. Check. Chuck on the plane. Stains comply just. Click. Fluck apply. The. Lexi. Two. Chicken. Kick. Jeff. Just like. Take. Competition. We play. Free. Having fun stuff. Lecture. Jeff. Tim. Just the plot. The book fucking. You're listening. With robin. That's me. And we are right. Smack dab in the middle of Nate Dogg tribute Oriel Nate Dogg died on March fifteenth two thousand eleven after having a couple of strokes. Yeah. That was a pretty tough fella right there. Now Nate dogs career started. When. Warren, g snoop Dogg and himself formed the group to thirteen now they wouldn't release full project until two thousand four. But the three of them can be heard on the chronic or doggy style. And to thirteen was one of the early adapters of the g funk style that's a mix of eighties funk and hip hop. Uh-huh. And nates voice. He's got that soulful voice, man. He's really smooth. It's perfect over those kind of beets. And there's no doubt that he had a huge role in the sub genres impact early on his debut was on the chronic which just shows goes to show, you how bad of a legend. He was man. He's tough man now that same album that launched the careers. That's the same album excuse me that launched the careers of snoop Dogg corrupt das- Dylan Dillinger and Warren g and also it also launched Nate Dogg as well. Yes. So let's go in and listen to interview with Nate Dogg and snoop. Really, I'll you're trying to have no image. I'm just giving people who I. After we went to pass years. Kind of like it was kind of tough somebody say is we family dog. I love. Ravin is all about balance. You can do all that still gotta have some point where you can be got love we go. We can go forward, and we can do music. We can do we can even battle can shop. You what what you know? After the end of the day. We can still laugh. Got love hip, hop in general. People while they're trying to make trying to trying to live off of our music. That's come see made from on the east coast. You know, doing ludicrous DAL, Sal JD all the way back to where I live on the west. I think people categorize saying what I feel. So my shock you one day and do a country. Me musical musical. Explain who I am. The people is like a releasing. It will be. Makah song the mad on tape. Sad or happy. One das- wanna do whatever I could make a song about. Just keeps me from doors. I kinda wanted to come fresh because there was a new beginning new store, like always got my work and give people what they've. And just really to see what I. All right. Yeah. Nate Dogg wouldn't emerge as all clip solo artist until nineteen ninety eight when he released the double album chief phone classics volume. Volume one about theory, volume one and shoe with debut. You get exactly that g funk classics, his smooth delivery was soft enough for the ladies but hard enough for the fellas at the same time. The mix of hip pop tendencies with classic are MB and sold delivery fell along side this funky new sound and when paired up with an emcee you bet it was a force to be reckon with. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got to say, Amen. All right. So let's go into a couple more songs. Be right back. A lot. Floor. All you. Announce in night. Like. Not. Crossed. Free me. Across in. Jim. Can. You can tell about chief. All that, you won't somebody tol- you. And you just believing. 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TSP088 - Time Trek: Time for reflection.

The Sill - Perspectives on Art

29:13 min | 1 year ago

TSP088 - Time Trek: Time for reflection.

"The relationships between the various levels of earth man in heaven, etc. So it's very much a carefully thought through mindful activity, and when you listen to the people who are actually involved in this practice, they will tell you that one they're doing this everything else has almost completely negated. They're not aware of anything else except what they're doing. Ooh. You're listening to the Phil podcast perspectives on art and technology with Peter Noce, and Harry pose ner. Episode av. Eight time track time for reflection. Powers? And welcome to another episode of the sill podcast side tributary. This is a time track my friend time for reflection. Herring. I know. But it's part of the time trek series that we're doing. We take a moment in time development in time. And then we unpack it and talk about its context it's importance and how it's meaningful today and cetera. Yeah. Development of an aesthetic and began roughly in the seventh century in Japan. And it's an art form known as Ikebana, I K E V A N A, which is the art of flower arranging or the actual translation of e Cabana is to make flowers alive keep them alive. But it's so much more than that, isn't it? Well, it is. And we'll get to what it is more of. Let's give a little bit of background so back in the seventh century people. I used to bring floral offerings to the altar. So as a kind of a religious or spiritual decorative thing, and it wasn't taken seriously as an art form really until much later about nine centuries later when it began to become popular as an art form in took on certain rules of form in line and shape, and how to create a flower arrangements that kind of add to the spiritual essence of space, so Buddhism came to Japan from China and Korea, and along with Buddhism came this idea of mindfulness of being very conscious of how you do anything in the world, so flower arrangements became also more conscious ritualized almost ritual as most Japanese yes forms. That's right. We can think of martial arts and the kind of ritual is Asian. Involved in that what other art forms in Japan? Can you think of haiku theater? No theater. Yeah. And OH theater. Haiku sumo roseland sumo wrestling, you has a certain ritualized quality to the combat of it summarize. Yeah. The samurai the traditional samurai poets who would learn the art of poetry as part of their martial training. And in fact, many generals in the Japanese military. Learn Cabana as part of their training because it helps to calm the mind allows them to make better decisions on the battlefield. So it's not just a female thing as you pointed today when you're talking lowers often are associated with the feminine. But in Japan, it doesn't work that way, in fact dominated by the male. That's right at this point. Yeah, we'll more and more people in the west or adopting a factor was a CBC podcast back in twenty thirteen. Sharon kura. Earlier name was so she attended expo sixty seven in Montreal. Right. And saw this Akiba play though. She was formerly a math teacher. She took it up been doing it ever since for how many years forty odd plus forty fifty years. Wow. Amazing. And they're more than a thousand schools of different types of K Bonna. So there's all these kind of lineages, it's like a martial tradition where they have these schools or review, our why you as they're called, and they all have different approaches to arranging these flowers, but in general, there are two main categories of flower arrangement in Ikebana at one is called Rica and the other is called nugget Rebecca visit difference between the two well Rica is a bit more formalized bit more stiff and nugget Roberta is a bit more, natural and simple. And what happened was began kind of with Rica with the small stiff and formal protests in gradually became nuts. Era. Bonna more natural approach, and that's the precursor to Ikebana that we understand today. The bases of which is maintaining harmony with nature harmony was nature. Exactly. And also a certain way of looking at life. So the way they organize their arrangements often has to do with the fact that there's the earth, then there's the human beings that are on the earth, and then there's the heavens above. So they arranged their flowers to reflect that so heaven would be a tall stem, for example, rises up the top. And then human beings would be a middle laurel something, and then at the bottom, you might have a small flower representing earth mother is one significant difference between the eastern and western aspect of this in the west we turned to arrange things in berry symmetrical form. So most flower arrangements that we do here for funerals banquets and weddings with cetera there done, very symmetrically. Right. Whereas Gabbana is the exact opposite. That's right because nature's assymetrical Ray symmetrical. But for some reason in the west we've come to feel comfortable with symmetry. There's something complete that we like about it. Whereas ACM etry tends to suggest change that. It's changing the something else flowing flowing into whatever. Right. The way the natural world changes. But symmetry implies static in a way. Stasis controlled young sort of fischel in many ways, right exactly. And the thing is I was thinking about this whole thing of flower arrangement in its inception. Because thinking about the idea of bringing flowers into your house or your temple. It's not a natural thing at all. Because before dwellings came along before the cultural revolution. We were hunter gatherers we were outside in nature all the time. You wouldn't even think about bringing a bouquet of flowers into your? Cave into your recommendatory hosts because you're so close to nature to begin with. It's an artificial thing to bring nature into the house because we've isolated ourselves from. And it's a way of reconnecting with it in some form. Yeah. And in the Buddhist tradition. They decorate their called took normal. They're sort of sacred spaces. There's an alcove in the room that they would have maybe a sacred scroll scriptures on and then you'd have the arrangement, and maybe a third little something like a trio of things, and that would be if the entire room will be clear, otherwise rather than that little alcove those things in it. The tea ceremony which is also the way of tea called Chatto chogori is done in that kind of environment. And in fact, the tea ceremony really helped to shape ekit Bina in certain directions as well. Because it incorporated, those flowers shirts ritual on ritual. That's right. There's a systematic approach to it all it's not just haphazard. Yeah. There's prescriptions and rules in typical Kibbe is not so much interested in the color of the flowers, for example of with certain exceptions read they avoid because it implies sort of flames and death. And so there's no read aloud at funerals from you wouldn't bring read to a funeral. But it could Bunna is more concerned with line, shape and form, it's almost architecture. Yes. When I think about it right as architects with line shape and forms of definite aesthetic to it. Yeah. But ultimately, it's also. To create that kind of peaceful environment. Yes. The absence also of sound in some ways suggestive of that. Is that quiet space? Yeah. You wouldn't be yacking away. While you're doing this, focus so much on the purity and the beauty of the forms and the shapes and the the relationships between the various levels of earth, man, and heaven, etc. So it's very much a carefully thought through mindful activity, and when you listen to the people who are actually involved in this practice, they will tell you that one they're doing this everything else is almost completely negated. They're not aware of anything else except what they're doing. That's what you said. This woman said on the mud cast right about it really kind of just naturally eliminates distractions. Yes. So one of the reasons why as you said, you express about the generals going to battle that concise definitive decisions based on clarity. That's explore this for a minute choosing activity that we do regularly in the west, and how could we apply the principles of came to that won't be an example of something that we do regularly? Well, what we do regularly as we typically in the west do a lot of multitasking when you a lot of activities simultaneously is not only taxing, but sort of eliminates that ability to focus on something and really get more out of something even ordinary conversation. We had the experience a couple of weeks ago where we were involved in the kind of roundtable discussion. Yeah. And I don't know about you. But the notice how different was when you spoke. I mean, there was complete silence in the room. You didn't have multiple conversations. Everyone was able to focus on the subject at hand. Right. So if I'm hearing you correctly, the art of conversation, if you ply the rules of eqe Bonna, and that thoughtfulness in that awareness of relationship in line and form in the flow of the conversation. It would be very much like that. That'd be a real intense listening because what you just described exactly you are really concentrating on the listening part of the conversation. That's really what enriches a conversation, right? Yes. What would be an example in the world of technology say any thoughts on that? Or one of my pet peeves which I was discussing with a client last night, actually. Yeah. They were describing how difficult it is to sometimes carry some things out to finish them to always have to go back and remind themselves of certain steps that they have to do. And why do they have to keep doing that? One of the things. I tried to point out was is that sometimes they're trying to do too much. Rather than focus on one activity in learn at really well. They're being overwhelmed by the things in their mind that saying I need to do this. I need to do that cetera. The other thing is if you just finished the lesson, it's like languages if you come to a language class. And I teach you fifteen minutes of French. And you don't say another word of French until the next class a week later, write your ability to retain or to improve our enhance what you were taught is going to be minimal if at all because you haven't done anything with it. Right. But if on the other hand, you leave that French class, and then you immerse yourself in a French community or you can bursts with other people in the language in between the classes, you won't feel like you have to relearn everything you learn the last time you were there. Because basically the second lesson I spent half of my time regurgitating what I said the first time because you have to renew that aspect of the learning, right? Well, see what you're describing. There is. As the Japanese way of the dough part of CIA, though, the way of t the dough part of KADO the way of lowers. It's very much like if you became a sushi chef in Japan, he don't just become a sushi. Chef it's years years of rigorous training and awareness and thoughtfulness and learning the art of cutting fish after all relate back to what we're talking about today, which is key Bonna. Yeah. It's like martial arts. They have levels that you achieve coupon. That's right. Same thing. Grandmasters bottom master can take fifteen twenty years to achieve the equivalent of a black belt in cut a or taekwondo. I loved your example earlier today, you're talking about Billy Jack the movie Billy Jack that seen go again. This Pacific details because this is like forty fifty years ago, where he's encouraged to remain calm because he's a very skilled fighter. He's a former green beret cut out the expert as well. Right. And so he's taught to refrain from using his skills for fear of hurting people. But of course, he's in this confrontation with these so-called bad people essentially keeps looking over his shoulder to the woman who keep saying stay calm now. Don't let them explode. Don't let them get to you. And eventually the guy keeps on he finally says to this is paraphrasing when I'm going to do. Now, I'm going to take my right foot. And I'm gonna put it on the left side of your face. Of course, the guy laughs because he's like standing six inches in front of him. Then the next I what comes up, and he was practicing Marsh leaky Bonna that calm mindful awareness in the moment, and the design of the kick and everything was the perfect arc. That's very key Bonna the whole time. Of course, was what's comical you. Sing I'm really trying really really trying not to lose humility this branching. I had a martial arts teacher. Once also who was a guest at our DOJ. Oh, and Sheree she son. She reshi sensei was his name. And he he was a little guy. He was about five foot two or something very slender. And he would stand in front of you when we were training, and he'd tip his head to the side in smile and draw an X on his cheek in say hit me, please. Hits me, please all these guys are small because when I was seventeen I went to saroka Gresley school at the bathroom Wilson. I don't know if it was part of your neighborhood there. But yeah, yeah. Same thing guys. I put four or five five. Yeah. And just a dynamo. Right. So fast. You can't even see half the things he does. But he's the most soft spoken gentle guy you'll ever meet. Well, the thing about recreation that I learned in which it was injured too. It's not about speed so much which is like Coban. It's more about wears flow form and the shape of your movement and timing and all of that strategy right now wasting energy not wasting energy doing a key. I or whatever using your opponents energy against them like dole road. Does. I this is the dole again. Bucks locks. So what's your story? You are the new student. Come closer. You cannot see. You think I cannot see? Of all things. To live in doctors must be the worst fear is the only doctors. Take your broom and strike me with it. Do was I tell you strike. Again. Catch. Never assume that they caused the man has no is he cannot see. Close your eyes. What do you hear? I hear the water. I hear the birds. Do you hear your own heartbeat? Now, do you hear the grasshopper, which is at your feet? How is it that you hear these things young, man? How is it that you do not? Slugs? So they had these art forms in Japan that they raised to a high aesthetic level. Yes. Which I find fascinating you may mention of some full that when you were in Kyoto with your wife, and we related to trains and lost articles. And that whole. Yeah. The whole attitude towards things and people care for things. Right. So when I lost a bag on the Kyoto subway system to stops later. I went oh my God. My bags gone is henna camera. My passport all kinds of important documents. And I said to my wife, just wait here on the platform. I'm going back to the original starting point and look around. And so I did that went to the ticket counter. There was nothing. There went to the ticket agent and tried to speak to him in Japan, glitch. Oh, I have. Goule lost Bracco bug. He understood it all come come in. And so I went into his office. And there was touched on opened signed for took it home. But that's the certain aesthetic. They're the people do care. They're not interested in stealing mostly, you know, it's a cultural bent that. We could really learn from in the west the trust no desire to harm. I'm sure that there are people even Japan. Sure. But when you think of a city, for example, thirty million plus there are as many people in Tokyo and surrounding suburbs than in all of Canada. Yes. That's right mazing. It is amazing my son. My sister were there. They describe the level of cleanliness where here's a city of thirty million people, and you can literally eat off the streets. You could never achieve that with a kind of controlling authoritative situation. You would have to have individuals who care enough to look after their own space. Sure, it goes even further when you go into the temples he go into his end Buddhist temple. For example, and you go to the classic rock gardens that the eight that r raked. So these are very small stones in these gardens have maybe one or two largest owns and the rest is just a field of smaller stones raked in certain curves that you can see patterns, and you can see that. Every single stone has had some human care and consciousness put into it. Every corner of the temple exactly can see it there. Phenomenal. Nothing is done haphazardly. You describe the fire station. Oh, yeah. Or you get up in the morning. Take a walk and go to the local fire station and out front or the firefighters doing Taichi like exercises warming up for the day at the fire station. So it's not like you're expected to do it on your own and then show up and go to work. It's part of the work ethic. There is to do these things together. Positive behavioral practice amongst the population health conscious. There's. Seeking four serenity or of serenity. They're not separate. This is a way of being it's a social way of being connects people and makes them accountable and responsible to one another, and there's a certain respect there. Because for example, another example of Japanese culture is that it's looked on very unkindly. If you pull out your lunch on the subway, for example, and start munching on a sandwich or an apple or something people look at you and go low brow, not respectful, you don't eat in public. Like that. Just not correct. It's not done. It's some people may look at that as being overly restrictive, we in the west feel like we can be free to be idiots anywhere and everywhere, but in Japan, it's a bit more controlled bit more in that reflects into these aesthetics like flower arrangements, but maybe adopting a bit more of that. And then you find a little bit of the middle ground. Right. The balance. Exactly. So that we can take our wild anything goes here in the west and temperate just think of the cost reduction and the energy reduction. You're completely unbe sizing another aspect of society. How do you mean? Well, if you adopt even partially what you're describing with Uganda in terms of the spiritual sense away of being the other things discuss the boats Seidel behaviors. Yep. You would greatly reduce the amount of supervision as an example, the police force the amount of control that you would have to apply in order to keep things in check. If we as citizens are carrying enough to pay attention to certain things without having someone police us all the time. Yes, right. You can take all that energy and resource, and why it to further educating people share balancing paychecks etcetera etcetera etcetera his way of being that reduces the load on a system. Does not make it the government on one side and the people on the other side it's together. It's all about context. So for example, in the martial arts in our tradition when you enter the DOJ, oh, you bowed. Yup. Upon entering the DOJ. Oh, and then you put on your doggy your outfit. You're martial arts uniform with your belt, etc. And by doing that, you've ritualized the process of the training and created a context, which is not the outer world. It's a different world in that DOJ. Oh, you either respect that world or your sense? They will have some words with you. You might even get tossed out if you're not respectful in that. But if you recall, I do recall, my days in though Joe's, even that part of it was handled very very differently. Yeah. I'm talking specifically with oriental instructors. Because I did find a difference. I'm not saying that they were superior, but they had a different approach. Right. And not approach was even if you were going to be expelled from the class. Removed from the environment. Even that was done in a nice way, you weren't forced or embarrassed that of the room you're quietly spoken to and he's essentially when you're ready to make a change. We're ready to accept you. Right. But until then please remove yourself from get at their environment. Get out of the flower vase, the can't be in the pedal in this range. Iki bond is that they really take great care and terms of the actual vessel that the flower. It isn't just grab a vase in throw the flowers in the vase has to pertain in color and texture and style to the floral arrangement you'll often use. Let's call the frog spiky base that you can push the stems into which means that you can actually have the water come up higher up in the pot more towards the surface to reflect the idea that this is the earth. Now, we're in the earth. Roy just emphasize the structural part of that if you've ever handled any visual find that the pot has generally heavier than you think it would be when you see it, right? And part of that is the base foundation the strength from which you build right because otherwise you'd have something very flimsy that nays has to hold while everything else is built on top of it. So generally has wait two more so than it, actually appears. Yeah. And part of the use of frogs as well it helps to keep flowers alive longer. And that's part of the tradition that the. Buddhist side of it is the whole notion is to keep things alive to nourish life. And so these vessels that are Houston Coban are very much connected to that impulse to increase life on the planet. The interesting part about all these things we've been talking about is that there are many things going on in. What seems to be something? Very simple. Yes. Connecting to universal. Right. Indicting courage. Anyone out there to do NICKY, bonnet class one class and get a feel for it? And that sense of calm that you'd get in that activity. I also worked in Japanese paper shop in Toronto another area. Yeah. Whether our lineages paper-makers going back hundreds and hundreds of years interesting passing on the knowledge of papermaking to the next generation and the next natural mentorship as well. Yeah. Very similar to Cabana and the lineages there in the martial arts traditions. Lineage of papermaking to right, and it also kind of emphasizes craftsmanship, which is kind of the opposing view or position of what this disposable society that we live in. Yes. It's throwaway attitude. Yeah. Something made to last be kept alive, and the Japanese also have very interesting as Fetig term is called wabi Sabi, which you can apply to this. You don't put that on your. But what be Sabi term that basically means respecting that which is imperfect or aged old so respect for the elderly, which is their Japanese culture. Respect for things that are ancient and arrested door, you have respect for that rusted door, you don't just get rid of it. Because it's rusty. You recognize beauty in it in then rusting of the door. So this idea of wabi Sabi implies looking around and seeing the ordinary and recognizing beauty in it. Right. And in recognizing beauty in all things, including flowers. You're just increased power of survey operation. Yeah. We're never really taught that in the west in our educational system is how to see things to be open in one's observations and be present in the moment that something that isn't really given to us as kids in the west. Unfortunately, that's also one of the foundations of Cuban keeping things present. Yes. In the moment. One of the hardest things to do is to be in the moment. And these kinds of activities are really important to learn that art and given that they're also as. A society the oldest living people on earth on average. Oh, yes. That's true. Isn't it probably connection? Sheriff is the calmer. You are. You're breathing is slower everything is slowed down everything takes longer. And so it makes sense that that calmness would lead to old age. It also improves the healing process. Right. And I just thought it was yogurt yogurt. He Bonny baby. Dickey Bonna listeners. We'd love to hear the feedback. Right. Sure. If any of you are engaged in that activity, tell us what your experiences like. So we can share that with people from your point of view, actually, any of the comments. We get our so welcome. This is the what the eighty eighth podcasts or you have all eight podcasts to check into and respond to there's an audio commentary button. You can press reward your comments or just send them in written. 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Alfie

Coming Out Stories

13:33 min | 2 years ago

Alfie

"Does or media. This is coming out stories is about cost about one of the most important conversations if your life. I'm swell. Now that coming out story from Alfie think that people are aware that the medical transition stuff takes a long time, but I think might NC has been developing and some days a quite sure things some days. I'm not quite sure things for me. It's kind of I'm very fluid with it. How old were in? Can you remember the moment I will. This body is bright. I saw something that I realised straightaway. I'm one of these people that new and they're really small. It wasn't something that I kind of really understood a new transmission existed by really know they existed and it wasn't until I actually realized I think documentary some and then, oh, that sounds familiar, and it was that kind of hop in that look in the pasta house. I of the makes loads of sense now. So when you first realized, what was the next stage then for you? When I first realized it was it was really a very fast process may. I kind of knew exactly what I wanted. The first thing for me was to to obviously tell people they need to call me by different name in and use different pronouns and things and look. Most people are quite understanding is quite good friends at a time. And I told my partner time as well who was obviously amazing about it, which is really nice. I know she's still great as well now, because that's a difficult thing, isn't it for a lot of transpeople sadly end up losing their partners because it's one thing the literally can't cope with, but tell us out what it was like. You're in a relationship with a woman and then had to turn around and say, I'm not woman my partners kind of queer. Anyway. She isn't straight. So I guess I had an advantage. Then again, she ended a relationship with someone who she thought was a certain way, and then it turns out they weren't really cool about like I was really lucky about that was more kind of like my family that had a problem with it. And obviously because I had my part of that was a lot easier to kind of get around that with my family. Had that support the, okay, we'll come in to talk about feminine a bit, but what was that conversation like with your partner? Because that's surely the most terrifying conversation to have, isn't it because you're going to fear rejection? Yep. -solutely. I couldn't tell her when I was so by it. So you went home for the for the weekend because we live in a house at a time, run home for the weekend when our some friends and I came back really drunk like three. She was on Facebook at the time. So I like a message to and I was like to tell you, I see, oh, that's fine at school. I kind of guessed something on anyway. Suarez Gad. Very hot. Didn't really have a reason to be. And how old are you? How long you'd been together relationship? We don't live together for like a few weeks. It wasn't. Yeah. So it was. It was over really new, and I was only about eighteen as well. I'm so I was still really young and she was a young as well, which I guess that's a lot to deal with if you're not trying to sell. And your partner, trans feel quite young. It's going to be. I think it's a little bit like, oh my God, what I do the kind of expect to happen so that wouldn't surprisingly well in your mind. But then how did it go when you did out she broach the subject with your own family. So I knew that my mom would have love ever problem with that. I came out as gay say in that I liked girls. She wasn't too happy about lot, but she was okay. We'll just kind of get on with it. It's fine. Buckingham knew there was going to be a bit of a bevy. She with me and Charles. But when I did Tyler, I didn't really know what to say. So I just said, so we're like, what would you say if a Senate wise the boy, which I wouldn't phrase Mao oversight. I really know what to say and she was. She was like, you know, know you know, adult, you know, just completely kind of dismissed it and didn't really knowledge that it was really a thing until I went to my surgery. So yeah, it took quite a while. Yeah, she's that now we get about now and she kind of she says things about me and stuff online. It's my son, which is really nice. Does it take a world for them to, you know, Jenny correctly and say him and he yet. So I'm really close to my sister and she's told me that even when I thought they were call me by the right pronouns, they're actually only doing when I was there. And then when I was away they were, you know, in in my name is the flight and member. Sometimes mom would phone me sometimes late on a Friday night and over sheriff you glasses of wine as the flight and she would. She would detonate me then, but. Correct. As well. You know, I mean, kind of think China like off like was it a big deal? So that was the name given. Essentially you referred to as debt name other transpeople us as well. Yeah, I think it's become a more common to call it. I think birth name suggests that brings up things. You know, people say like ball and wherever Alfie was born ago. So I don't really like she's Beth name, but dead name kind of covers it and also not just transpeople can have a dead name person is dead Tino. Yeah, the names debt, but I wouldn't say necessarily changes the person. I've always been quite confident in what I wanted. No, really fit in either. So that was never really an issue for me. And you know, still to look back and said, things that I let's talk about, you know, I was a little girl. For example, the, you know. I really got problem talking about that. Don't mind. Don't mind not. I enjoy my history. Just a a guy with a kind of Trump's history, I guess, interesting journey and it's the same Jennifer. A lot of transpeople that you kind of have to come out twice. So you've already come was a lesbian, and then you come out with being John's and you think that was harder. I don't know. It was different, but I was so sure about it was when I came out as lesbian through still something not quite right about it, and it's not even that I, I mean, I fancy guys now as well for, you know, not let let's change just do something. I knew there's something that wasn't quite right, and then as I. Okay. So you let girls so maybe you're lesbian. So I came out as a lesbian and then still wasn't quite right. So I think that was a bit scary because I, I wasn't sure like I thought I would show about something still fell, but we had only compare not. So when I came out strong, I was like dots it then it's that was a lot easier because I knew that that's exactly what it was so separate, but it's, it's defer it can be confusing for the people for society to split the in between gender sexuality? Yeah, definitely. I get of kind of messages from from straight guys, for example on like Instagram and stuff like that, and they're like, they can't really see past the gender thing. But I think that's gonna most direct example in my life. Like look alike. I say I've really understanding friends and Serov people who kind of get it or if you don't get it, they really open to kind of Lenin about it. So it's not really an issue for me, but a lot of people do you kind of see him the incident actually zome how as I'm not really a person make sense. It's like you constantly having to come out and educate people on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of even put like my bio and some things as well. You know, just just giggle like adult adult mind talking about being trans. You know, it's a big part of my life, and I do think support in the I can educate people and and we should be opened by 'cause I don't. I don't mind that. And I think electrons people on as comfortable as I am talking about it, adult mind, educating people. But you know, we live in a in a world now where I shouldn't have to. So he gets quite straight. Yeah, because the thing about Trump people is they just they wanna fit in everybody else. So a lot of trans people do want to hate these pass and just. Carryover, their lives and Evans accept them as the gender that they are, but your quite keen on to actually say, yes, a man, but I am a trans man. Yeah, and be open about it was important to, I think the more I think about it. I don't really fall into the category of like just the mon- it's not one hundred percent that way by definitely Waymo masculine lean in the feminine leg. Definitely not a woman, just not quite a month. Not to say that transmit up men or anything. If you identify as that's absolutely fine by just like to put lower transfer it just so a kind of like just think about my gender before you can see him among if that makes any sense. We say a lot of people say to all, you'll the first trans persons I've ever met, but you always say back do. Yeah. So yeah, people meet people all the time. And I mean hundreds of people every day and work who up. So he's aero idea that I'm trans and you can guarantee if you're the first person is actually. Met me if he days ago. So you know. More about work because bit an issue we had to come to work. The place I worked now is like it's amazing to really ethical place to work as well. Actually in the business. It just happens. Every works is really open minded and we have people at were all different different backgrounds. And you know this huge diversity there, which is amazing and no one is ever kind of question it, what the happy for me to talk about it, and I've over say kind of sets them if you have any questions at rather lost may, which is fine. But they kind of they know about the boundaries by did have a job before that. Where am I went for some surgery? It was like a hysterectomy because like this idea that if you take testosterone a high tons again cancer, it's just a theory I was. I don't want to chance. I'm not gonna use a might as well buy couldn't tell my boss what it was. Exactly. 'cause he didn't know that our trans and I really feel comfortable telling him there was only few people who knew that was Trump's. It was written comfortable experience. I like people knowing that I'm trans, like it's my day on. It seems weird when people don't know. About it because like I'm saying this things that talk about and talk about it, like when I was a logo like I was saying, and that would seem really weird if he didn't know what, what is the guy talking out. So what do you say is probably your identity so much so that I mean, your amused performer, and that's kind of not part of your act, but it is part of your sort of your musically cells in ways. Yes, definitely. Definitely. Gonna use it to celebrate mom. You. Yeah, don't think people mind that goods. But yeah, I think it my stage performance, stuff like that. It's it's a bit more calm than normally arm and kind of embraceth ministry a little bit more. But that's because I want to push this the boundaries of gender, which oversight. I'm quite like that. Life oversee people put our actual when they're on stage, will let you do when you're radio. But so I kind of liked to push that feminazi elaborate more. But I watch videos back and I feel like I'm not really counting early really feminine like it's not even the even how it looks. So how old we first when you first question Egypt and Jordan, sticky member, like I say, it was a really slow process for me. I remember when I was in school, I wanted to be teacher at the time when I picked. I was always wearing suits. And that's the kind of earliest thing that I can remember. Okay, that's the kind of definite blurring of the lines. It was until about eighteen like I say, seventeen eighteen when I was like, okay, I'm trans. Because he's quite a long journey for Trump here. Isn't it? So would you have any advice for anyone, the beginning of the journey? It's just questioning the general dense, too. Yeah, I think just go with it like wherever you are thinking feeling is totally valid and you don't have to fit into any box. I kind of struggled with that law. I really want speed look super Moscow land, and that's not who I am all. Although you all the way to the gym again. Yeah, yeah. But that's the only thing that I do. Well to end almost where we started being talking about you, you first coming out story told us about coming out to your partner. So how is it that you've been together now? At least seven years. Six and a half years? Yeah. Okay. So she's definitely capable. Then we're engaged, which is nice. So you all going to get married. We are getting married at some point. She wants traditional rustic, you know, in the woods thing. Wow. So think back to you as a eighteen year old questioning thing in telling you for the first time could can you believe where you are now in the seventies later, hey, will as a trans man about to marry you go from? I think I kind of always knew she was Akiba. She was just so cool about a and like it when I was freaking out. She was like, you know, really cool headed and was like, it's fine. But I think the price, I'm in the place where we can get married, which is a nice and and I'm, we kind of additional things where like Dodd walk down the islands to fly, but I don't want nothing where waiting for the broads command because it's it's my day to so. We're gonna come in together and we're going to smash all the all the traditional generals were wedded. Oh, well, congratulations, absolutely elevate. Yes, I will be purchasing. Yeah, definitely. I'll see the reflecting on his journey as a trans man. Please do subscribe wherever you get you poke cost. From what else to hear from you on Twitter, you can find us there at come out stories. I'm swell coming out stories is a what goes on media production. Next time you'll hear from call Austin bay in a case of, well, you can't tell you on the I know, because if if I know that you'll gay on just airforce and I'm in the air force, I would have to report you unless you brother. That that data dot did.

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5 Minute Highlight: Episode 18

Secrets to Win Big With Arjun Sen

05:30 min | Last month

5 Minute Highlight: Episode 18

"The. This is secrets to win big your roadmap to sustained growth brought to you by June, San, founder, and CEO. Of Zan, mango brand whisper top brand growth driver, and a former fortune five hundred executives who has been called one of the most marketing intelligent minds in the business find him at Zen, mango, dot com, and now here's your host. Our June San. To secrets to win big with Arjun Singh. Arjun, and it's a pleasure to bring you a five minute broadcast highlights. Of My conversation with Lucas Guk VP of marketing at Ninja nation. Lucas is a bashing ED marketing and consumer fanatic. He took the one unit fast casual restaurant. Magazine's. Tokyo units and beyond. And his secret to his success was optimizing guest expedients from day one and driving the love mark, which is trademark moments. In this current role as VP of marketing. At Ninja nations. He. Accompany a brand that creates world car vodkas obstacle course arena focuses on help a kids gaining strength both physically and mentally. Lucas also is. Two or three times I forget getting old. World Champion. Cyclist. I've been very fortunate to have Lucas in my class as a student when he was doing when I was teaching Marketing News Colorado. And it has truly be an honor and a personal pleasure to see him evolve over the years. In his career and of course, knowing Lucas his best is still always head of. Here are some key highlights. I is just like Lucas focusing on love mar against expedience. Everything he talked about is very focused on guess. Lucas does not assume he knows. Everything about the guest. And he always keeps his mind Goldman and he talked about the best week about guest experience is through Interactions Watch that. See Them. As. He also talked about how you have to simplify your offerings to help people. Pick the teams that really want. Let's not be fire hydrants. And that's the part where the first of the two second are connected because once you know what guests want. This offer fewer things. Help it easier or guests. And a decision making buying offering too many things cause anxiety guests, which is not the best way to start and expedients. The Second Area Lucas talk a lot about failure. And that's the part where I really think it's important to look at where he's coming from not only as a super professional but also. As a world champion athlete. And he his perspective failure, very important when you combine both those things. He talked about trade things be excited to fail. The second statement took no way to figure out what was saying when he said nobody ever doesn't fail. Which means it's a very polite. WE'LL SING everybody fears. With it. But what you learn from that failure helps you build future success. Now that we excited veil. And then he talked what this concept as aid with me, we'll stay with me forever is Phil Forward. Enough number, of times. Could be able to grow past that, and that's the part where it is very important to look at those two concerts feel forward positively. So you're excited to get up and run. Go back for backwards and second. And Akiba, how many times failed because that will show you future success. Again an incredible conversation and I'm a little biased because as seen him wall from the student, Buddhist school professional and Gobi. But it's a must watch. Please subscribe to the podcast secrets to big with Audrey. You can find it at Apple podcast. Google. PODCAST on spotify or you can go to mango and bail confined audio. Good. You've abortions at any way you want to find any listen to. Thank you and happy. Birthday. You've been listening to secrets to win big with our June say founder and CEO of Zen mango rent whispered top brand growth driver and a former fortune five hundred executive who has been called. One of the most marketing intelligent minds in the business to learn more visit www dot zen mango dot com share this podcast with your friends and subscribe wherever you like to listen to podcasts.

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HOW SALES ENABLEMENT CAN INCREASE YOUR TOP LINE REVENUE - B2B SALES

The B2B Revenue Leadership Show

37:15 min | 2 years ago

HOW SALES ENABLEMENT CAN INCREASE YOUR TOP LINE REVENUE - B2B SALES

"Hey, everybody, Brian burns welcomed episode of the b. two b. revenue leadership podcast, sales enablement, this is becoming a much needed capability within the company. And today we're gonna talk about a lot of different angles of it, and I'm going to have a couple of episodes coming up on different takes on it from the marketing sales operations and sales view of sales on Ableman. Why is it so important is that when companies are growing, when companies are developing, it's too much to put onto the sales leadership of EPA sales CSO all of this training and enablement and content and integration because it's just become so complex as transaction sizes get smaller volumes, go up turnover, hiring, be having people come up to speed all of these things compensation. The problem becomes very complicated. You know, one of the we used to have these huge enterprise deals, multimillion dollar deals, field oriented, sales people. It wasn't as critical today. When we're moving most of the sales inside. We tried to get meetings so hard speaking of meetings. I'm now offering start the conversation, get the meeting, customize for each company. So if you have five people or more or basically pay for five people get five licenses, I will customize the chorus to your exact product. Your total addressable market, your personas, and show you how to get meetings with eighty. Ninety percent of the people in their natural organic way. Instead of this Email coal, calling pitching all about me approach. This course is just rocking it reps are paying for it by themselves. It's that valuable because the old methods that you see everyone and teaching everyone. I mean, the experts the best of the best. There's still twenty years old. Yes, you can personalise it. Yes, you can automate, but the effectiveness is diminishing exponentially. Down to near under three percent. I get back up around eighty percent the way it was in the nineties. Remember those good old days. Well, let's get into this interview and I wanna make sure you're, you're checking out the website at b. two b. revenue dot com. You can schedule a fifteen minute call with me and we can talk over your particular company situation. If you wanna get your team, just rocking it and q. four. I'm here for you. We can get it and kick started very quickly. Also you get my free e book on how companies make product selections because you have to have your sales model fit your market, and you have to understand how companies make these decisions from both a political and an economic and administrative process. Very few people know this and what I try and show you is after twenty five years of doing this. I've been teaching it for the last five years. I am shocked to people who have been in the industry for twenty. Twenty five years who still don't know it. They're relying on just their relationship with a individual at the company which sometimes is enough. But today it's becoming more and more complicated. Also, I wanna make sure you're checking out Cova DO does got some surprise common. They've been teasing us keep an eye on it to follow their company. Page co, video CO v. D. And they'll probably make an announcement also you following the b. two b. revenue leadership company page on Lincoln. I'm putting out some funny videos as well as blog post content there stuff that's also on my website. It'd be to be revenue, hey, let's get into the interview. We're going to be talking about sales enablement more from a marketing perspective today, but I'll have others in future episodes. Thanks for listening. Hey, Pam, thanks for joining us today. As a way of getting started. Tell about yourself. Oh, hi, Brian. And also wherever's. I'll are listening. My name's Pam dinner. I'm actually a marketing council speaker author, and I will begin bake about twenty years. And then I decided to go to the dark side and the started working for myself. Yeah, that's totally dockside yourself. Akiba who wanted to try dumb do it anyway. It has. It has been a lot of fun actually, and I wrote a book. I was about four years ago as a global content marketing held the skill content across the region. And then I recently completed my second book. And the second book is kind of like a natural extinction of a content marketing, but I was actually writing the book the marketers perspective Anisi how content can better able sales. So effective sales enablement will be coming out actually on the twenty third in the US. So what is the difference between a -ffective sales enablement and every other kind. You know, that's actually a great question. Brian Simpson, Ableman if correct me that I'm wrong. I based on the lot of various definition. If you all that I read on the internet and we trust everything the right and then sales enablement is really a much off focus on sales to Gelman still training, which is makes a lot of sense. If you think about it, it's an able, the sales team to sell effectively and my Boga -ffective sales enablement is actually from a marketer's perspective, and I am writing from the perspective how the marketing and assisting can better aligned. And I know that that's the kind of legacy tree old topic, but I really going to details and talk about a very specific elements from a marketing mixed down to messaging and down to. To a Montek versus sales technology. What all the things that we can think about to actually better align ourselves. So the -ffective nece Holly defined it if you will actually coming from the collaborations between sales and the marketing in a way in how do you make sure that that happens because I've been on the receiving end of many assails enablement meeting. Presentation and there's always this huge disconnect. Yeah, I know. I know Brian, is that weird if you think about it, the cells unlocking organization, both departments or division, if you all they are the ability to the same company. And the overarching goal is always about driving growth. Right? So the goal is the same that for some reason, the sales marketing on necessarily align. And why is that. I think there are some fundamental differences. The are some fundamental differences the way I see it is the three. If you think about it that dumb kinda diet Dr or create a misalignment. And the first one is from timings perspective, is a long term versus short term and the sales team. Actually they have quarterly Louis, been monthly quota. They have to me. But if you ought talking about dry on demand generation, especially in technology, sales, to put psychos twelve to eighteen months and try to build at wellness from the get-go. It's hard in takes time. So is short term versus long term, right? So the goes up kind of different. And then the second thing is really say the top of the funnel versus bottom of funnel and full marketing on a lot of time, the jobs tend to be driving demand in the Bill awareness, and the primary focus tend to be top of the funnel. And info sales. Obviously, the most important thing is closed the deal close to deals close to deals, close the deals. So they focus on the bottom of the funnel. And because of that priority directions that create a conflict in wine is obviously focused on top of funnel, yellow lines, agin ally. That's really focused on conversion if every if any way possible. So that's the second fundamental difference. And a third one is if you think about the show virtual landed in the top of the funnel versus the bottom of fennel that obviously will guy the the recent was and also budget allocation, right? So from the top, the timing difference down to the fennel priority differences that will guy how both departments operates on a regular basis and that somehow we a- problem. Moving forward. However, that doesn't mean it's the end of the world, right? He's really not, and the way I see it is possible to find some commonality in misalignment. Okay. And the guy to be something right. For example, one thing that has been a such a hot topic, not not not a hot topic liked. Everybody using the buzzword, but be people talking about it like sales side, always doing account sales and especially in technology side in the also the complex a sales. And what about doing account based marketing? Right? So up, both sales marketing come together and focus on specific account was specific vertical industry, and they have a regular meeting to actually dry that the clamp rations. That can be one way. So to drive of the alignment of between those marketing. The bottom line is I think everybody needs to understand the sales marketing can never be wandering ally. That's just reality in. Don't even try to fix that. And why you need to do is look at, for example, annual planning is coming if you'll physical year stars on January. First with that being said, can you look at some of the initiative that sales is due. Doing a marketings doing as if you can find some commonality installed there. And what is the focus of your book? Is it more having content for the sales people. What was your motivation for writing the book? I should probably start there. You know, one ice. I think the the twofold if you will, the first one is, oh, I need to rise second book. What is the topic that you know I can talk about as myself? So we've on the perspective that what kind experience expertise I can share. Right. And then the all the wine is so that one is actually more kind of internal focus Annan. The online is more external goes. I actually I speak at different marketing conferences than I also do a lot of training for enterprise clients. What I have noticed is the saints to be a gap, especially on the marketing side that they, they always talk to me that the sales only one leads high qualified leads, and they don't want anything else found the marketing team. The only won't leads, but there's so much more marketing can do for sales, especially in. The digital era. For example, social selling, right and marketing team. A lot of marketing managers, very good as social media promotions in some of the tips and tricks can easily be translated and share with the sales team Email marketing who has done Email marketing from the Geico, the marketing team, and then Email marketing Meany campaigns have done by sales in the pass multiple years that has a lot to do with the sales enablement platforms or the marketing automation tools or see, I am rice old. There's a lot of learnings from the Email marketing that dominating teams can also transfer and share with the sales team. So but the not necessarily a communication in terms of best practice sharing as some of the marketing team don't know how to go around or doing it. And I feel there's a gap. So an I have, I have always being a marketer. I'm never a salesperson. I won't to confess that to everybody, but I supported. The sales indirect and though sell direct sales force for long period of time. And and I also do the Assam research on Amazon dot com. I look at all the sales enablement books, which is not a lot out there to be honest with you. But at the same time, there is not necessary book written from marketers perspective. So I decided, hey, why the hell you're not gonna take that initiative. So he I am writing a book about sales enablement but really found the marketer's perspective, and I really talked to be to be right, and I was enterprise a. b. to b. marketers alone, period of time, and then spoke is really more focused on technology sale in the complex sales. And so that's the story behind it. If you will, Brian than answer your first question, you talk about like three minutes ago. The bulk is not multiple different topics. I, in fact, I have the. A book in front of me. I talked about the the evolution of his deals on Ableman. Where does that term come from pay? And I also talk about the sales trends that will you know that matters for the next poppy four or five years in how does that impact sales in those locking. Then I talk about the conflict or the dilemma that we have as marketers pudding sales, and then I went into the details such as how messaging branding, how does that impact sales team held? They should be aware of it. It also how different marketing mixed what elements such as the coal marketing partner marketing and we can directly was channels and the affiliate marketing social media marketing. I talk about each marketing element healthy as can be a seal, sunny woman element and what marketer can look. Get each of those marketing elements in think differently inches of how they can apply some of the stuff they do on the basis applying that to us appointing sales f course, I'd touched on the tag versus sales tech, how you can actually look at a different technology and is complex right. When you started talking about technology in different layers, it's complex, but how can you think about it in terms of leveraging or sourcing different tools to help you out? So it's a, it's a very comprehensive. They are about ten chapters, and I talked about really a lot of aspects that you can think about as marketer to better support sales team. Is that awful? That is humbled as far as we're good sales enablement report into a company, but which your thoughts on that Brian? I, I question still good asking question and I do care. How your opinion. All right, that's inside joke, but to invite me anyway. That's a even rule block ghost about that and wear should a sales enablement reside. And when I was talking to multiple different sales managers, even sales operations manager of UP of sales and the general verdict is a sales enablement should be part of a sales organization. But what I have found by talking to so many different people, the sales enablement Oganization interesting enough. Has resided if you will, in sales organization, sales operations team and the plot of team, even marketing or guess HR don't joke. So it really, depending on how you define sales enablement Yang. Everybody defined a little bit differently off on company to company, and some of them is really focused on training development Hurian. Right? Like stills on boarding, continuous training in that. And one companies, I talked to EMMY pens and use her immi- exam in my book as she works shoes. Really the stills, anyone director for address, which is a startup that create a platform for big data analytics, and she did such a great job in terms of enabling sales. And when it comes after the company went. Public that dumped her Mitha dollar g. of training and developing a helping sales kind of become a best practice. And then the HR UP of HR love a lot of stuff that she was doing an Elian she actually reported on as part of HR driving wake scale on the sales enablement training and development komo's cooperation, right? So that was probably kinda unique example. And the analogy is Emma ski. She was working boy until at a time loyalty division, and the seals able enabled employed is actually part of a product group. So is pot of the product rule that do a lot of product training. And so her job insurance of enabling sale is naturally fed as a pot of the business unit in the product group. So they are multiple organiz ation the seals. Ableman a separate division, oh, by its own. And then they report directly to the VP of sales in a much smaller organization. They also they can be reported to those operations. But the might be some challenges because sales operation tend to focus on again is a short term versus long term, right? So operation, you worry, if you focus on the pipeline focused on the processing you was on the tool, but still nibbling. Entrance of training tend to be a little bit more long-term. Yeah. So there is no rial wrong answer insurance where sales enablement should fit the, I guess my advice to everybody who who is listening is really, you need to look into your court. Competency up white, you'll sales momentum organization is doing and then have a Frank conversation with multiple different stakeholders, including the repeal of sales on the eve, a marketing, and then determine where it should goes because I would think that you would get a very different implementation depending on who they report to. Totally totally. This is one of the as once he was unable manager. I talked to interesting enough that they report to finance and then of course can use a little. I rated a lot of time because the finance manager look at things very differently, right on the more kinda like, okay, do we get ally out of this and how you track training? Some highs training takes a long time to show the fact and benefits. So yeah, that can be a little frustrating. So no, I do agree with you, Brian. I think the opportunity for that person or team is enormous because I think they can be the conduit between sales and the rest of the organization and the marketplace. Have you looked at the best way to compensate. Sales effectiveness, sales enablement so that you get the of the result that you're looking for. You know. Brian, that's actually a very tough question to answer, and it comes down to the KPI and also metrics. It depends on how you measure the effectiveness in also officiency of sales in Ableman and do major is you'll measurement kind of tie directly with the sales outcome or do you tie a with a same tools and also process implementations in all? Like for example, you guys to off the team decided to scale? See, I am acrossed multiple different offices where they decide to launch a new marketing automation tool, or they decided to use a new collaboration to a whole count base marketing. So initiatives, obviously, tool implementation initiative takes long time to actually get a ri- and we'll get everybody on board. So how you major. So. Is hard and the is not again the right answer Orion through, that's because the sales in everybody does sales any woman differently. In my book I was talking about is kind of like content marketing, right? What is come to marketing me? What you when you talk about Email marketing? Everybody was. Oh, yeah, I know. I know what Email marketing is you send out emails. You try the fecklessness of Email rate and even marketing. Oh, yeah. I know what you've been marketing this and you know, we do a bunch of you man's. We go, we on the show floor and we get a business car would talk to a prospect yet very tengible in solid content marketing. What? What is that? Everybody does that very differently in Sam analogy applies. Everybody does still sunny women a little differently as well. So you comes down when you ask about -ffected nece deficiency on how attract that. I think in the end of the day is the sales enable manager marketing manager along with. The sales team, they need to get together and identify what awesome of the KPI that's that works. Is that helpful? It is because the compensation is the compass, usually for people. Yeah, probably second only to who they report to, you know, the the reward system. And I think people now realize the importance of sales enablement. At what point does a company hire somebody to do that? Is it a size thing? Is that a revenue of funding thing? What? What's your recommendation. You say you're asking all the right questions, Ryan. That really depends when I talked to multiple different people and especially on the sale side also including like a founder of the CEO and it's pretty much time like holy crap. I cannot skill anymore. I have ten sales people, you know what the own create their own content and that the analysis every following the dry sales methodology need to do something about this. So there's always that holy crap moment saying that only God I'm growing, but hey, Mike tools, my process, and that how I need to function as those team is not necessary follow behind right behind the growth and the start thinking, oh, you know what? I need to do something. But initially I'm talking kinda like from startup anos is, is company is very much kind of legacies driven, Brian, you hit the core right? And the how many sales people you have. If you only have like. A five people do need like a sales able manager full-time proudly, not then you probably have the marketing manager even product marketing team Tatum a portion of sales, any woman role. There's I'm exempt. So when I was talking to some of the startup or a missile company that they are not huge, but they still have a sales enablement functions, but they don't co themselves Ableman. They really the pot of pot marketing, the old eob, part of the marketing in some of them even done by HR people. So you know, they are people wearing multiple hats and that still doing those enablement. I think that actually have one prison doing sales enablement as full time. That's usually sales team has grown to the point that a lot of things needs to be standardized. So I think the first requirement, if you will, Brian, just your, it's how you said it. It's the size related that's version. The second thing is like really most of the time people tend to be reactive. We drive drive drive growth and the process and tools on not necessarily. I'll focus in usually it's coming after than it's that a Haman. I need somebody to help me out. And then all of a sudden a group is formed and who makes the best sales on Ableman to leader is at somebody with. I mean, I've seen people go from sales into sales enablement where they, they didn't like the all the pressure of says the pressure belly, or they wanted a lifestyle change and didn't wanna travel, or they just love doing it. They liked, you know, the kind of the training side of it, but they liked working with other people in the company as opposed to, you know, plug thirsty customers or angry customers all day. What? What's been your experience. Asa. I also address that specific question, immobile. Brian is actually chapter eight. Everyone. Interesting enough, and I want to look at that answer that question from two perspective and in general and what his mom, this sales, the those people's perspective, the outlines from kind of light a strengthened also. Skillset need needed perspective in. When I talked to the sales people, they love their sales Ableman managers or support person have sales extremists. And if they actually have some sales experience being in a train before they feel that they can relate to that sales enablement person whole lot more. And that stills unable imprison can actually understand ri- Ola, challenges that the the sell off the outside sales people encounter when they are trying to close the deal or talk to a prospect. So having the sales experience from sales people's perspective that the the, especially the sales people, the the sales enablement manager support, they liked that a lot. They prefer somebody actually have sales experience. So that's a first and in general, you totally right on them is they are some of the sales people. They just tired of traveling the. Tired of dealing with the customers. They want to focus on internal and they understand whether sales people need, and that's actually a natural path if you will. But to be honest with you, they are lot of marketing managers and they are moving to the sales side, but they are not necessarily want to be part of the outside sales and they want to do the inside sale, feel support. And so there's a quite a bit of marketing manager eventually on a do a natural career, traditional migration, actually to assail side on sales, enabling actually good starting point. So they are multiple routes. But in general, the strength or skill set that's needed is somebody's actually very good a communication. Obviously, communication is super clinical at the second thing is attention to details a lot of time it related to multiple different aspects. How to you need to look at the sales methodology need to source the tools you need to work on the training depending on your role, right? So attention to detail being. Alad pogo manager is also is essential. So yeah, you want to be soup, a sales man managers. You need to be super. Superman, and if somebody invested the time and money and got your book, what would they get out of it. Well. A couple of things I wanted. Like I said, this book is written vol mawkish perspective, though. I am just not saying that sales managers was able manager should not get it. That's not my point. You might get some against insurance of what are some of the other ways that you can support the sales team. Okay. It's about thinking beyond the roles and responsibility, and I really talk about sales in VERA comprehensively from Montana from marketing mix, annals. So from technologies, not technology and also from assembling sales team when you need to pay attention to. So it's very comprehensive bug from my perspective, entrances evil men. Delman and take a look. And by the way everyone relate if you don't like the book, right? If you don't like the bug reach out to me directly, go to a Google Pam dinner, the idea and the our first names PM and that my website should come up schedule coal with me. If you don't like the that Bogue is not solving, you'll issue guess what? Reach all that type one alive. I'll see what I can do. Promise by. Excellent. That's very nice of you. And when is it coming out and where? Yeah, the book will be available October third in the UK and October twenty. Third in a US. I hope you enjoyed that. One of the big parts of sales enablement is having the right model, having the right approach to get into new accounts to have the right process to keep the deals moving, prevent the bad things from happening and ensure the good things happen in a timely basis. Is that important? I bet it is especially going into the last quarter of the year. If your team doesn't have control over that, if you think it's still demo, present, proposed negotiate close. Guess what? Nobody buys that way anymore. Those days are over unless you have super simple transactional sale. That's not happening. So let's let's get together. Let's have a conversation go to be to be revenue dot com. Under training, you can pick a fifteen minute slot and we can talk over how I can help your company really skyrocket the revenue this quarter, get into those new accounts and fill the pipeline for twenty. Nine thousand nine hundred. Also, I have a free book there on how companies make products elections all. Also, I hope you check out discover org. They were ranked by g to crowd, is the number one day to provide provider out there. Super helpful. Your team. Why hire a bunch of people to correct the emails and the phone numbers and get personalized data so that your reps can have something. This is all done all done for you at one tenth, the cost. So check it out at discover org dot com. Also nudge dot AI. There. They just had this new capability of connecting up their chrome plug in with a linked in. So now your team can see the relationships that you have between you and your market space. They also have the integration with Salesforce so that when you have a forecast, you can see exactly the relationships strength between the people in the the account that's supposed to close and you and you know how to connect with them. So when someone saying, oh, this is a nine or ninety percent likelihood, but there's only connection with one person who's not a decision maker guess. What it ain't gonna close. Okay. Enough about that. Really appreciate everybody listening connect up with me on linked in. If you happen to see my content on Lincoln police, give it a little like a little comment. A little share. Definitely appreciate that. We'll see you next week, everybody. Thanks for listening to this episode and I really would appreciate everybody who goes onto Lincoln, connects up with me. Your follow me there. If you happen to see some of my content flying by, you could throw a little thumbs up or a comment or share. I definitely appreciate it helps spread the word about the podcast and. Make sure you checking out my website b. to b. revenue dot com and get my free book on how companies make product selections. It's a real book. It was on it is on Amazon, but I give it away for free. Just registered there. It'll Email you a link to it and you can just download the PDF from there. Also if you want to check out the courses, start the conversation, get the meeting or closing the complex sale and to have more questions about it. The short answer is there video courses you get access for a year, but it's also a community. What does that mean? You can ask questions anytime via voice mail or Email. I answer them within a week, put them into the course. We have office hours every other week. It's an hour long. We course where you can basically, I pick a topic answer questions. You can ask questions also you can schedule one on ones for free, and we just talked through your particularly use. Case and that gets shared with the core. So if you don't have time for office hours or the timing doesn't work, or you just want some more one on one help, that's all included for a whole year. So it's really a year to go from where you are to where you wanna be. And so it's not just videos. It's not just knowledge, it's practice. It's getting feedback. You can send me emails. You can send me your presentation. I'll help you with anything that you need to close the complex sale or get the meeting, and you can check out them at beat the b, revenue dot com. So that's it. I really appreciate it. And please tell somebody about the podcast and let me know if I can help you in any way. Oh, and you want to hear some results from the course. Well, here you go. You know, I love the approach. It's working for me just fantastic. I, if I sense you some of the emails which I should the conversations that I'm having with people, I think he'd be blown away. They're not really about work. I've figured out you kinda get personal with them, like one lady all about her family kids. And then I sprinkled in a little bit around works and she linked inning spending me messages on linked in photos over family. No, I'm not even kidding actually show this. You'd be stunned. I was shocked. She, she even we're going to launch on September six yesterday. She shot me link message that Iran, why don't we get on the phone and do a video call beforehand. So our lunches and so awkward like fairly not meeting each other for the first time. Oh, holy cow, right? But this is unbelievable. So this is not the first time this has happened. She's kind of an extreme, but I'm starting to figure out a pattern where I can actually make this process. You know. So also that it's getting to that point. I'm every time I do something like this is unbelievable, you know? So it feels better too. Doesn't it. All right. Let me tell you something to be able to go go to lunch with Ellen. Talk on the phone. Right? We're going to talk about family kids, work life harmony 'cause we read, I shared it ginseng with her from those about work life harmony. This is where the conversation will start. Now, at some point we're both not stupid, right. We know we're going to talk about work and we know why we're both. They're kicking off his way is so much better. And to end that lunch with the last five minutes of telling, you know, well, what are you guys doing the digital.

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RATs, ransomware, payloads, and unsecured data: a look at the cybercriminal underground.

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RATs, ransomware, payloads, and unsecured data: a look at the cybercriminal underground.

"So Ben Okay be ransomware looks more like the child of Gan crab and McAfee has some thoughts on how ransomware as a service operates fake updates are back and they're installing ransomware to the AD wind rat is back investing a new set of targets. It's moved on from hospitality not in retail and into the oil industry maliciously crafted obt files are appearing in the wild and a big database about Russian taxpayers has appeared in an unsecured elastic search cluster and now a word from mar sponsor observe it the greatest threat to businesses. Today isn't the outsider trying to get in. It's the people you trust the ones who already have the keys your employees. He's contractors and privileged users. Sixty percent of online attacks carried out by insiders the stop these insider threats. We need to see what users are doing before for an incident occurs observed enabled security teams to detect risky user activity investigate incidents in minutes and effectively respond with observe. Did you know the whole story. Get your free trial at observed dot com slash cyber wire. That's observe the letter. I the letter T. dot com. Tom Forward Slash cyber wire and we thank observe it for sponsoring our show funding for this cyber wire podcast is made possible in part by bug crowd connecting organizations with the top security researchers pen testers white hat hackers in the world to identify ten times times more vulnerabilities than scanners traditional pen tests learn more about how their award winning platform provides actionable insights like remediation advice to help fix faster while methodology driven assessments ensure compliance needs are met at bug crowd dot com from the cyber wire studios at data tribe. I'm Dave Bittner with your your cyber wire summary for Wednesday October second twenty nineteen. Today's news is for the most part from private sector researchers. Those who are watching the criminal underworld researchers at the security firm McAfee for one have been keeping an eye on these so dinner key be ransomware strain the one that's also known as has are evil since this past April. They've just published an update of their studies. They're blog begins with some foreshadowing. They note darkly that so dim Akiba turned up at about the same time again. Crab Hoods announced their retirement saying they'd made enough money and proved to their satisfaction that anyone could easily find a profitable career doing evil. This prompts a reversal of the traditional question. Why do bad things happen to good people the really interesting question if you follow gained end crab is why do good things happen to bad people at any rate. Gan Crab announces their retirement and Sudan aqui turns up so McAfee asks coincidence coincidence or is there more to the story. You see where this is going. McAfee unpacked so Dana Carvey and found that it had a forty percent code overlap with Gan Crab version five point zero three so they think there's a better than decent chance that this is just the return of the Gan crab gang back from a quick retirement rested refreshed ashed and ready to make money while serving evil so dinner key is sold in the criminal to criminal market as an affiliate scheme in its ransomware as a service model all one group maintains the code which licenses to the other criminals who use it against their victims. Both sides realize certain advantages from the arrangement from the developers Ella point of view they get a cut of the ransom and they even get to set targets for their affiliates. The affiliates run a great deal more risk than the developers especially if those developers work from one of several countries that don't really regard developing malware as a crime worth punishing provided you leave targets in that country alone the list list of languages so dinner checks for and blacklists is instructive there spoken in Russia and the near abroad plus Iran and Syria. The affiliate gets a good deal to they don't need to write the malware themselves that learn to code stuff is for suckers as long as you've got someone coating for you. There are low barriers to entry. If if you're willing to be a criminal and if you can be accepted as such in the right dark web markets then Bob's your uncle and you can get down to shaking down hospitals schools small towns anyone who needs their data but may not have thought through how to protect that data when the affiliates do well so the developers that's why Gan crab used to kick the non-performers out of its affiliate network and it seems to be no accident that some of its top affiliates have moved over to so finicky. McAfee's researchers say that so do not be is generally well prepared malware quality albeit criminal work. It's a serious threat. The evidence linking it again crab is circumstantial but interesting interesting and the main point is this ransomware is a criminal business being run like a business and it has the characteristic vulnerabilities of its business model want to ASEAN affiliate model fail make the top affiliates unprofitable or out compete them with free descriptors. These are private sector solutions. If you carry a badge imagine a gun and we hope you'll make good collars and somewhere is clearly more than a nuisance and it's very far from being victimless computing reports parts for example that hospitals in both the US and Australia have been forced to delay elective surgery and otherwise turn patients away because of infestations in their systems. Yes they're working hard to deliver urgent care but it's difficult when you're working through the resistant medium of maliciously encrypted files the US healthcare facilities being hit this week belong to the D. C. H. Health System in Alabama. The Australian victims are in Gibson and South West Victoria. If you've ever been sued or have had the occasion to sue someone you know that part of the legal process is discovery. These days much of that process is e discovery dealing with all things electronic and online. Daniel Gary is co-founder of law and forensics global legal engineering firm and he's editor in Chief of the Journal of law and cyber for warfare. He shares his insights on e Discovery Litigation often ensues around a breach or around all sorts of things right firing employees to senior. There's there's all sorts of complicated issues that come up of lawyers. It's about the discovery of the response of information relevant to that incident now. Sometimes discovery can also involve third heard parties so a lot of vendors collect logs or have cloud based services or whatever we'll get third party subpoenas in connection with discovery involving another case like like for example. They may want the endpoint log files that are hosted by a third party. The part involved in a data breach. One of the lawyers will may may have to subpoena that company and they'll be discovery so it's the process of getting information connected to a dispute now. There's also discovering arbitration. There's also discovery in government investigations than certainly criminal cases as well those tend to be a little draconian arcane sometimes or one way or were you know better or worse depending on the regulator and then you have state court living and I was just referring Federal Court Litigation earlier State Court Litigation Gatien was state court judges is sort of almost say the wild west but it varies based on the knowledge and understanding of judge and it's about going before court saying what we need this is information to argue our case against inherently more complicated because judges are generalists and they're not you know the wads years of ones zero so to speak they hear murder cases divorce cases criminal cases white collar crime contract disputes and everything else people come before the on sale we want all of the email server you know could be. Birch allies in the cloud and the judge will be like I don't know what any of that means and so articulating what's reasonable to get down information back and forth discovery so when things go wrong when it comes to discovery what are the things that you typically find yourself self up against it ranges but usually I I it can be you know from helping the parties for example there was a case of only Amazon on and several different cloud based service technology providers to a case called. CDs versus rapid systems in New York in the southern district where I was task with basically creating a set of protocols construct so parties could have co equal access to a cloud based platform as they proceeded to litigation and fairly complicated 'cause virtual private cloud in the court had no idea what the parties were fighting about or how to grant this type of thing so I got appointed by the courts on in federal court to create as technical special master to resolve all the issues and create a set of protocols so the parties could functionally operate update the product product release the product they had different customers in different instances of the cloud but the same source code base stuff like that and then we have small versus you see where the court appoints me sort of mandate of resolving a wide range of e discovery issues. Susan as I said in the beginning it's about finding the right information and it ranges from parties in lawyers. Don't know how to properly extract a collect information who the vendors at higher don't do the right worth to you know just outright perjury and lying by parties about what they did or did. Do I often tell people you know. I'm very fortunate because ones and zeroes frequently don't why issues that's attorney Daniel Gary. He's one of the featured speakers at the upcoming six annual cyber warfare symposium and suck Tober seventeenth in New York City. It's sponsored by the Journal of law and Cyber Warfare Fair net scope has been following the spread of the Ad Wind rat and warns that the remote access Trojan is now being used against a different sector. Edwin has hitherto been observed in use mostly against retail and hospitality targets. It's now inactive use against the US oil industry. The rats its functionality includes capturing webcam images scanning for files based on specific extensions performing injection into known legitimate windows processes monitoring system status and exfiltration data to its command and control server. The current versions of Ad Wind seem to be showing improved obfuscation capabilities as well L. CISCO'S TALOS group finds the criminals are looking into the possibility of using maliciously crafted obt files in an attempt to bypass detection by commonly commonly used security programs. The current campaign is still small but it's used obt files to distribute revenge rat and NJ rat payloads open been office and Lebron Office users take note and finally compare attack reports finding personal information on some twenty million Russian taxpayers exposed online in an unprotected elastic search cluster hosted on an Amazon cloud the exposed data include basically the whole Shebang names addresses S.'s passports tax ID and so on here's a question for the tax man in a country whose Internet policy is as self sufficient as Russia's has become would our income tax data doing on Amazon. Maybe the owner of the data could shed some light on this. Unfortunately comparative hasn't been able to find that person or organisation organization but they seem to be somewhere and Ukraine so maybe this owner owns the data kind of on the side and now a word from our sponsor Edwards performance solutions. 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Dot Com to learn more. That's E. D. W. P. S. dot com and we thank Edwards performance solutions for sponsoring in our show and I'm pleased to be joined once again by Ben Yellen. He's the program director for Public Policy and External Affairs at the University of Maryland Center for Health and Homeland Security Ben. It's always great to have you back. we had word come by that. the city of Huntington Park in California has a new addition to their police police force what's going on here so Huntington Park Police Department announced this past June the addition of a robot police police officer or as they call it a HP robocop. This is a four hundred pound security robot it roams through the streets of the city of Huntington Park and to just try and create an image for people to me. It looks like a a the offspring of Eve from the wally movie we are two D. Two and maybe a little bit of the cone heads in there just the shape of the head. It looks rather silly something that seems like like it would be in a really bad science fiction movie. It's not intimidating. That's me David. Maybe it's not supposed to be. I feel like I would just laugh. I saw Robocop but then when you dig into the details it becomes not as much of a laughing matter part of it is based on the surveillance capabilities of of this robot so the company that produced it says that this robot is quote a fully autonomous security data machine meaning they basically observe everything around them take real time photos and videos and are just constantly collecting data on on what they see and the purpose of that from the city's perspective is to fill in blind spots so you can't have law enforcement at all locations at all times and you can have traditional traditional surveillance techniques like plain old security cameras you can have these robots going around corners into alleyways where there might not be persistent. surveillance surveillance what was particularly disturbing to me is the company trying to describe why this particular robot wouldn't generate false positives and other words identify people as security threats and when they are not actually security threats and the answer was something like well. ROBOCOP has the power to distinguish anguish between the good guys and the bad guys they'll know what makes a criminal and I know it when I see I know and they vacant place once they determine that someone's a bad guy that can put the that person's face through their facial recognition software that can red flag that person. I'm they can collect. Ip addresses they can identify that person smartphone if it's in a particular geographical range so this is a pretty disturbing in that oftentimes a I is extremely biased as we've seen in all sorts of previous studies in terms of have legal recourse. I mean we have this public view doctrine which means if you are out in public and a member of law enforcement observes you doing something thing. You have no reasonable expectation of privacy. That's fair game for a prosecutor to us in a criminal a court case right. We've talked a lot on this podcast. Dave at applying that doctrine to all sorts of modern technology so license plate readers aerial surveillance since when you start to talk about you know these robocops it's it's so far beyond the traditional understanding of the public view doctrine because as we're just expanding the universe of what can be seen in public view to such an absurd degree. I don't think a court at this is point would accept the argument that the public view doctrine shouldn't apply when we're dealing with these Robo cops or other extremely persistent forms of surveillance but but I think something in the long term they're going to have to consider well. How is this different from say a security camera on a telephone pole it up in the corner of the public park versus this being that can just move around. It's a it's a camera that can move from place to place and it's very presence improves the security because it's a it's an active reminder folks. That safety is a priority here in goes on the beat yourself people. I mean you know with a security camera. There's generally level of notice so people you can see the cameras. They'll realize that they're they're under surveillance. I assume if you see one of these guys these Robo cops going through the park. perhaps you'll adjust your behavior as well but you know. I think the other big difference is the area that can be covered you can put up a million different security cameras and they're going it'd be little nooks and crannies within a jurisdiction that aren't going to be subject to their coverage and when you have robocops on wheels they're going to be able to go into back alleys and and obscure areas of public parks where security cameras would not be able to reach this the surveillances more persistent and then and also that the smart elements of this particular surveillance tool so the ability to take in more information mation than simply a video or a photo to do real time analysis do profiling those are also types of things that don't exist in traditional avocado surveillance well and for anybody who is familiar with the original robocop movie. Please put down your weapon. You have five seconds to comply yeah exactly exactly I never thought robocop would come to life and this past the Aldo robocop. The movie would have been far less interesting if the Robo cop looked like this little guy just does not seem super intimidating to me yeah yeah all right well We'll see how this one plays out Ben Yellen. Thanks for joining us. Thank you and that's the cyber wire thanks to all of our sponsors for making the cyber wire possible. Civil especially are supporting sponsor observe it the leaving insider threat management platform learn more at observed dot com the cyber wire podcast is proudly hardly produced in Maryland out of the startup studios of data tribe with their co building. The next generation of cybersecurity teams and technology are amazing cyber wire team team is Stefan von Kelsey Bond Tim no Dr Joe Kerrigan Carol -Tario Nick Valenki Bennett Mo Chris Russell John Patrick Jennifer Ivan Heater Peter Kilby and I'm Dave Bittner. Thanks for listening. We'll see you tomorrow.

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Climate Change Is Transforming How Our Food Gets From Farm To Table

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Climate Change Is Transforming How Our Food Gets From Farm To Table

"This message comes from on points sponsor. Indeed if you're hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started at indeed dot com slash. NPR podcast from NPR WB. You are Boston magnetic rarity and this is on point. Climate change is changing a lot about how we live. So is it changing changing how we grow the food that we eat will slowly but surely on farmland across America the answer is yes farmers and scientists are figuring out new ways to grow the foods and raise the livestock. We all eat in anticipation of a future of different growing seasons. Different pests wilder storms. They're also trying to pollute less and leave more carbon in the ground this hour on point the future of farming in a changing climate. And you can join us especially farmers are you thinking ahead and changing your methods because the climate around you is changing and for all of us. Are we relieved. Are you relieved to hear that the people who grow and raise what you eat are thinking ahead to the future of of unavoidable climate change effects. Join US anytime on point. Radio DOT ORG or twitter and facebook at on point radio now. We decided to look at this question of farming in the age of climate change because the online news service e any news is running really great series on this subject. It's called recipe you for change. And we have linked to the series at our website on point radio DOT ORG and two of the reporters who worked on the series or with us today. Daniel Cusak joins joins us from Saint Paul Minnesota he covers climate adaptation for Lia News. Daniel welcome to you thank you. It's good to be here. Also with us is Mark Heller. He covers agriculture agriculture for Ian. And he's with us from Washington mark. Welcome to you. Thank you very much Magna okay. So first of all give us The overview overview of. What the aim that? The animating question here that your series is asking and the aim of it and marker Daniel. I'm not sure who the better one is is to throw this question to but but go ahead. I'll go ahead and start Excuse me this project was conceived Last last fall By an editor at Green Wire Kelly Luccio Lee And brought together a number of reporters from different publications and different backgrounds. To to look at a question that really hadn't been sufficiently covered In in our minds with respect to climate change the causes of climate change and also the response to climate change. There's been a tremendous amount of attention paid to Other sectors that are emitting greenhouse gases including the energy sector transportation sector industrial sector but agriculture has while it hasn't been completely ignored We thought it deserved some additional attention And our interest really went beyond on just agriculture or agriculture but to The food system itself. So it's a little more broad than Just what farmers are doing in the field but also How food is moving to consumers right so because a lot of potential climate affects there and we should also note that you the series touches upon fishing as well but for for the for the context of this hour that we thought we would just focus on farming and land based agriculture? So so mark tell us a little bit about what. What have you been hearing over? The course of your reporting about how climate change is already having an impact on agricultural practices. Would say that. I'm hearing a lot from farmers who are experiencing all kinds of All kinds of effects from drought and flood and when hurricanes and all that manner thing that the question is whether they see that in in the broader context of global climate change that is caused by human beings or whether they just see this as extreme weather and that starts to get into a political debate but certainly farmers are more accepting now. Oh I think the idea that something is going on and that they need to respond to it and adapt to it so then so then tell me more like what are the particular reasons why you see. Uh Shift in that the the greater receptivity. Oh I think because the effects are just are becoming so undeniable. I think that's really what it is. I think you're seeing growers. Having their cottonfields flooded out. And that sort of thing and and you can't deny that there's something going on and it's going on more all over the place when I talk talk to farmers they say that what they're experiencing people tell them they haven't seen in decades and decades if ever because it Daniel did you want to chime in on that. Sure well I'm in Minnesota and I cover Mississippi River issues and of course For the last several months I've been covering flood issues and in particular and and I if you need an example of of how climate change is affecting extreme weather and extreme events you can just look back over the last Free four or five months months in fact back to his Late Two thousand eighteen win Just a set of extreme events happened and In the Mississippi River Basin largely in the Midwest but also extending to some other areas and and it resulted in what For communities is the flood of record larger than nineteen ninety-three In some cases larger than a one thousand nine hundred eighty seven which is the notice the great flood on the Mississippi River particularly particularly the Lower Mississippi River so say for people who are looking for examples of how climate change is intersecting with farming You can just look at these floods the dramatic floods. That have happened very recently. Wow Okay so mark talked to us in about another specific examples because I think sort of really making this says real as possible for as many people as possible is going to be helpful here. You're next door. An upcoming story in this series has to do with a different kind of water issue in. That's it's increasing drought in California. That's affecting winemakers there. Yeah yeah so I I spent Spent several days in in Napa and UNSA noma talking to wine growers there and of course out there they you know. They see drought right in front of their faces. This is something they deal with on a regular basis And and so they are dealing with water issues in fact when I every every grower spoke to their said that their number one concern is is is the water supply and what they are supposed to do long term. They're a little bit lucky in that part of California and that a little bit of dryness or maybe even a good amount of dryness is good for the wine would which added another sort of level to the to the discussion But but it out there. There's no denying that that that precipitation is is a serious issue. Well I mean in your reportings GonNa reveal some interesting things like. I had no idea that it took more than three hundred gallons of water later on average per gallon of wine. Yes there's an immense amount of water especially on the vineyard you think about all. The different uses uses. Irrigation is number one. But there's also water that they water that they spray when when there's a frost predicted there's water that they use to clean out the barrels. Listen the winery. There's there's all manner of uses of water that they're trying to conserve okay. But but is this idea then of of dry farming Is Is it going to catch on in California. Or they're just I mean because so much of agriculture is just absolutely dependent on irrigation and other water sources. Yeah I think in that part that that specific part of California In Napa I think that that from what I heard from people that has some some some real good merit to Arthur other parts of the state of told Old Central Valley places. I you you can't do that It's just it's just too dry and if you look at the At the rain patterns in California They vary so widely bye bye location over short distances. Well and so then this is just really interesting in the Newell. Also you you talk about. How Napa Valley wineries? They cut out a a lot of trees when they expand in that has climate affects. Well it's not good for the people will tell you that it's not particularly good for the land. If you're going in you're you're cutting down cutting down trees and and going into hillsides and things like that. Yeah well that's more of an environmental. That's more of an environmental issue. Sure and then. Of course intrigues trees. Pull pull carbon out of the atmosphere in the process of of respiration. But that's just a little hint of terms of you know from Industry and Industry to industry within agriculture. Her how climate change is real is having an impact. That's making a lot of people. Think about it. So so mark Heller and Daniel cutic- hold on for just a second here. Because I actually WanNa go to the callers. We've got Aaron. Who is calling from Chicago Wisconsin? Aaron you're on the air hi magnet. Thanks for taking my call all my wife and I we raised Gretz. These here northeast Wisconsin. And we've had an impact from climate change for sure. I mean the last few years we've had extremely wet springs. Haven't been able to get field work done and so we've become increasingly more reliance on our perennial pastors those permanent grasses and clovers that you don't I have to plant every year because you just can't get equipment during the springtime we've had to change how we do things in the summertime as well. We're going towards more drought tolerant crops like Oregon saying things that don't need a Lotta water not as much corn and And so we're trying to make your dad had patience and it seems to be working but the weather's always challenge. I don't ahrends took so. So you're trying to make these adaptations. Are you seeing immediate effects or is it tough to to make this transition. -sition I I. It's been it's been pretty easy You know cool season pastors are the backbone of the beef industry and so That we already had those in place. We've had to change how we reestablish those though we don't do spring seedlings anymore. It's just too variable of whether we now we do Late eight summer seatings when the weather's a little bit more predictable but You know we don't have a lot of big investment and equipment to plant corn and beans like a lot of farms do And so for us. It's been easy to be flexible. But a lot of people that are ingrained in that commodity row crop agriculture. It's definitely a challenge Aaron from Chicago. Wisconsin thank you so much for your call Daniel cutic- what do you think you hear. Aaron making some pretty rapid changes as a grass fed beef farmer. Yes That's that's right and Air News to a key term Which is adaptation Farmers everywhere are trying to learn on the job so to speak Of of how to adapt to changing conditions and just briefly to touch on what mark was saying about water in the less Farmers I for generations have talked about getting the water right which means Having the right amount of water in the right seasons to grow crops that In some cases are fairly specialized in some cases not But what we're seeing now. Is this higher degree of variability in water. Too little than too much than too little again then too much again And it's falling in patterns of that are also knew as Aaron mentioned Wisconsin last year had some tremendous storms tremendous volumes of water falling over that state eight And it affected farmers greatly In a variety of reasons number one their their their field or flooded You can't do agriculture with the flooded it field but but also If if they have too much water it really affects the ability to grow crops and and and raise livestock that they often have are usually have well Daniel cusack and Mark Heller both from. EMC News standby for just a second because we're talking about their series on how a changing climate is forcing or encouraging changes in agricultural practices or in the food system. More broadly we'll be back with a lot more charter birdied. This is on point. This message comes from an points sponsor indeed when it comes to hiring. You don't have time to waste. 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They're both from any news and it's a website website that that recently launched really fascinating series about how climate change is changing agricultural practice or more. Broadly The food system in general and how farmers are responding to that and we have links to the reporting on radio DOT org. If you're a farmer or anyone one in our agricultural and food system have you seen the effects of climate change on what you do. And how are you responding. Now I WANNA Daniel and mark. I WANNA play a quick clip here. This is from the Land Institute. It's a research organization based in Kansas. That's working to develop grain crops that don't want to be replanted. Every year now that prevents erosion not not having to replant keeps a erosion at bay also keeps the soil. Oh healthier and in the case of new wheat grass called Kerns it can trap even more carbon in its deep roots. So here's Lee Han on the lead the scientists In a video that this video we should know was put out. By the clothing company Patagonia we have printing plants that we better apples pears. Not but when it comes to them something that is the staple of the human diet on large scales. We don't have any options so we're trying to bring the printing of the perennial grass with the features of we. We like big stuff. We could make good yield trying to bring those two things together from different species easy. That's a very complicated challenging task. We're still working on here. So that's a clip. From a video again we mentioned it was put out by the clothing company Patagonia because they have a foundation that supporting The research into This week grass called Kerns. Now Daniel q wrote about this And you you you thought you. He wrote about how this is an example of one of the shifts in cropland agriculture that could have a major effect on climate change. So what's what's the deal with. Well it is a very interesting crop and and in some ways it's been one of the holy grails of crop agriculture in that Scientists for years have been trying Got To find a viable Perennial crop in other words. One that doesn't have to be tilled up annually that also also produces a grains for food and this has been a traditionally difficult area because so much of what we grow in the United States is fairly shallow rooted which makes it more susceptible to drought extreme events and other things excuse me so Currency is essentially a hybrid form of what's called intermediate wheat grass which is a a fairly common plant. It's been in the United States for many many years but has traditionally not been used For a food I it has been used more For watershed protection. Well head protection protection roadside Planting so on and so forth But the Land Institute In conjunction with University of Minnesota has been working on a plant breeding programs for some time to improve the food qualities of this plant which is now? I've been trademarked as Kerns. A by the Land Institute Jun Agenda Generically it's called intermediate wheat grass. So from your reporting here I see that The root system of Kerns is. I don't know it looks like the roots may penetrate the soil ten times as much or ten times as deep as As other wheat species that's right One of the really distinguishing features of Kerns is it has a very deep root system Ten more in the ground that's correct In fact the root system is much longer and deeper than the plant itself which I think for many people That's that's a little bit different than what they would expect But this extensive root system that goes very deep into the ground is a terrific Store of carbon And also the fact that it doesn't have to be tilled every year. It doesn't have to be replanted. Every year allows Kerns to absorb and store carbon for the entire year So it doesn't lose that carbon it loses a little By other means but overall it retains its carbon urban absorption and storage potential Year round is there increasing interest in in Kerns. I mean because I imagine that we can have As many small farmers as possible take-up something like this as a new farming practice but in order to really sort of push things forward the corporate agriculture culture companies need to to get interested is there. Are they Yes and to your point markets matter in farming just as they matter in any other enterprise Kerns has drawn some interest. it's still largely in the research phase although it is being used in some products including Those made by Patagonia through their food division called Patagonia provisions But more recently General Mills which is of course one of the largest food conglomerate in the world has embraced Kerns Largely through its relationship with the university receive Minnesota and the Land Institute and is investing in In in not only in the research and development of the Kerns of plant but also working very hard to incorporate Kerns a grain into its foods which of course include cereals and lots of other food products interesting so I should also ask just for basic understanding here. You mentioned the reasons why may be good though. Not a silver bullet as you point out in your reporting wording but it's deep root system It's carbon trapping abilities. CETERA is is the flip side of that about why corn and wheat may meet may not be so a great for when we're thinking about climate and climate change what's so bad about corn and wheat a well. Well there's nothing inherently bad about born and wheat but the way we produce corn and wheat It does pose some problems from a climate standpoint I guess first. First and foremost would be that corn wheat conventionally require annual tillage And you mentioned soil and soil health Short time ago Ah Soil is a tremendous holder of carbon So when you till the soil annually to plant a new crop op. You are actually losing Many many many Millions of tons of carbon Back into the air So it essentially actually reverses the carbon cycle with plants plants are known to absorb carbon. That's what we called Him Carbon Sinks But some agricultural practices Were flipping that on on its head and actually released releasing Very large amounts of carbon into the atmosphere So tilling is a big issue there Also the plants plants Particularly corn is relatively a short rooted or shallow rooted plant it's carbon absorption potential Or performance former is much lower than annual crops and particularly Native Plants Native prairie plants in in particular are known to be some of the most effective carbon absorbers In the plant world so Plant like Kerns is trying to draw. some of the benefits of these native prairie grasses while also meeting needs for food. Well Mark you've been very patient. They're waiting while we're talking about Kerns turns out here. I want to go to a quick call and I'll come back to us. Let's go to Tucker who's calling from Edgar Town Massachusetts Tucker. You're on the air. Hi thanks thanks so much for taking my call no problem go ahead Yeah so I have a law grown Shitaki farm that we've been growing the business of here on the island and we sell into restaurants in Boston and New York and really the reason why my business partner and I got into this particular type of farming is with an eye with an eye to climate change and how we can use marginalized land for a type of farming. That doesn't require soil oil but in fact uses agricultural or forest waste products. So in this case we're using wasted crown would which normally gets shift or burned and from a forestry operations and mushrooms can provide a massive amount of of protein and fiber to replace. It's more traditional animal proteins But I'm I'm curious as to what your panelists think about changing food culture to the point where we are using anything more food items that don't require limited arable land and instead utilize agricultural waste will tucker really great question. Thank thank you so much for your call Mark Heller. Would you respond her. That's that's fascinating. I hadn't heard too much about that. I I my my knowledge of mushrooms has has always been that they grow it in bales of Hay And and I and I wonder I'm curious I guess a little bit more about about Tucker's operation and and how you all decided how to do this actually just the reporter in Missouri curious about it looks like a we. We don't have Tucker on the line anymore unfortunately but maybe we can get another mushroom farmer to call us and help answer that question. So so mark. Mark Heller and Daniel accused stand by here for just a second because I do want to reach out to Belgrade Montana where Becky we joins us. She and her husband or sheep ranchers on a one hundred sixty acre farm. She's also vice chair of the Montana. Organic Association and Co author of the Montana Climate Assessment. She has served as well on the Montana. Board of livestock. So becky we'd welcome to the point. All right thank you. It's really great to have you so first of all. Just give us a broad sense. Have you been seeing the effects of a changing climate. On your rent. Yeah we do see effects. We've been here for about thirty two years and I would say hey. In general temperatures are warmer. But what's more striking. Is that the extremes. Their Greater Last March we ended up blaming at thirty five below zero which I felt very wrong and is not what we consider to be normal So there are definitely changes But what's really important to emphasize is is that the changes are have not been reliably predictable. Ten volatility is the name of the game as much as warming so the so. How are you coping with that volatility? Well in our case Like the person who calls from Wisconsin We're in a relatively relatively good position. We're farmers we raise chic and in fact that's part of the reason we chose to raise sheep Before I was a farmer I was a geologist just in that perspective has influenced my my understanding of agriculture and its role on the planet And dress dress. Farming is a relatively resilient way to operate and even though it focuses primarily on livestock is also I think a tool for restoring healthier versions of cropland agriculture as well. So let's see if I can't take a tiny tangent so you were a geologist before or you were a farmer and were you working on carbon related issues. Climate issues as a geologist A little bit different from that. Oh come initially as an undergraduate I was working in some of the wildest places on earth and very ancient rocks but then in graduate school I was working in the dry valleys alleys event. ARTIKA and I ended up working with two different groups. One group were microbial ecologist. Who are studying the rock services but then I also oh ended up collaborating with a team of glacial geologist who are studying history climate change in the southern hemisphere and trying to understand how it Dr Global Climate Change And even as a freshman in college which was a long time ago in the late seventies I was learning about rising. Co Two levels in the atmosphere. And I remember remember sitting there as an eighteen year old in an introductory geochemistry class thinking. Well the writing is on the wall And so so even though if dedicated my adult life to small scale agriculture it's always with that backdrop and Really the main point joint that leaves me with is The strategies that we need and agriculture to build resilience in the face of climate change are the same strategies the Geez that we need agriculture to help mitigate climate change. Okay okay so so Daniel and mark I I have a hundred questions for Becky Akiba. Hells want to recognize that. I have to reporters here sitting as well as part of this conversation. Do you mark let me turn to you what do you. What do you hear what becky saying? And do you have any questions for her. In terms of What she's doing in Montana? I'm curious maybe for one thing. Whether whether she's more concerned about temperature variations creations or moisture variations. where she is for one thing and then I had a another impression a little bit From what she mentioned about the strategy for resilience because has that. That's what I hear. That's what I hear a lot. That the the kinds of measures that the farmers can take both mitigate the effects upon them and help help with the with the broader with the broader problem and a lot of them aren't even necessarily geared toward climate change specifically but but toward. We're just growing better crops. But he won't respond to that Yeah that was really two questions The first question about how Our primary concerns. I live in South West Montana in valley that somewhat novelist where our immediate concern is not aridity. Although we do experience some droughts but I would say when I think about my Montana colleagues in general Drought is a major concerns but in the short term I'm and these complexities are really important. In the short term Montana in some parts of the state is actually experiencing increased moisture. which can be really a big advantage if you're are trying to grow wheat in early summer but in late summer if you get anomalous precipitation as we have been getting the last couple of years of storms in late August August early September it makes train harvest really tough or harvesting? Potatoes and sugar beets which are also important crops in Montana But for livestock I producers. Those late summer early fall rains are great. For Getting Redraw on pastor for the frosted and I could go on and on about how all these different layers affect back different components of agriculture and even within one season within one arm you can get both good and bad effects from climate change. We know that's why that's why resilience is really kind of the key. I think both to adapting of farm by farm level but also rejoining our food system. Becky you are also as I mentioned earlier co author of the Montana Climate Assessment. How much did ranching farming agriculture factor into how the state's looking at climate change? Well for its date is doing in their own version of a climate assessment and in Montana's case initial phase was focused on agriculture forestry and water supplies and so agriculture is extremely important And it it's it's important to emphasize that the climate discussion was relevant to agriculture agriculture. And not only because the challenges and and benefits that farmers are facing from it but also because we have to recognize that Montana may be justice significantly affected by climate shift say drought in India and Australia as it is by direct changed on their on. Par We'll becky. Yeah I'm sorry to interrupt you there. Forgive me but I just got We take a really quick break. So becky we'd Daniel cutic- and Mark Heller Hang. Hang on for a moment. We are talking about how climate change is changing agricultural practices. We'll be right back with a lot more. This is on point. And what does it take to start something from nothing. And what does it take to actually build it every week how I built this I speak with founders behind some of the most inspiring inspiring companies in the world. Find it on. NPR One or wherever you get your guests. This is on point Meghna trucker Bharti. We're talking this hour about about how climate change is changing agricultural practices or really our food system more. Broadly and this conversation was inspired by a terrific series. As from any news. Daniel cubic is a reporter covering climate adaptation for EMT and he joins US today from Saint Paul Minnesota Mark Heller is also a reporter four hundred news as well. He's with us from Washington and we're also joined today by Becky. We'd she is with us from Belgrade Montana. She and her husband or sheep ranchers on one hundred sixty acre farm. She's vice chair of the Montana. Organic Association and Co author of the Montana climate assessment as well and. Let's go to Oliver. WHO's calling from Harrisonburg? Virginia Oliver you're on the air. Hey how you guys doing do lil Oliver. What's your what's your question for today? So I I hate to go back but I wanted to ask a question about the intermediate. We dress I did a fair amount of research. in my Undergrad at James Madison University about agricultural practices. That can turn A farm in more into more of a carbon sink than carbon source And I found that Practices like no till or High Biomass winter residue. New Crops were able to effectively increase the carbon Concentration in the soil. However referring back to that we grab One of the main characteristics of the soil that helped with was the the amount of clay and clay aggregates that were formed in the soil. Oh because exchange between between the carbon and the and the soil declaring the soil so wondering if the intermediate wheat grass does it have to to have the same quality soil to performance effects. You've got the state of okay. Oliver thank you for your call. Daniel Cusak I guess that one's for you. What do you think think well? That's a great question and it goes to the science of Carbon absorption of which is to say the least A difficult difficult Area to try to draw firm answers about nevertheless I'll give it a shot so Carbon absorption in soil L. depends on a variety of things. It depends on soil type Depends on the growing climate tour growing season and also soil management practices generally soil carbon increases with higher clay content Because these particles essentially bind to The organic carbon With respect to Kerns there is still a lot of research on where is the or what is the ideal real climate regime for growing Kerns I can't say that to date Much of the work has been done In Kansas is and in Minnesota where test plots have been planted for a number of years To try to refine The crop Not only in terms of its hardiness but also in terms of its ability to produce grain But it's it's still a difficult thing to nail down Carbon absorption in soil. There are so many variables that go into it but generally the science tells us that deep-rooted perennial plants Like Kerns out or intermediate week grass Do a very good job. AH UH-HUH ABSORBING and storing carbon so becky we let me let me turn to you here for a second because I want to take a step back I wonder if in we really ought to be thinking when we're not just talking about targeted agricultural practices but about the system in general right because so much of our arable land in this country is dedicated to a tiny number number of commodity crops and corn and soy obviously in particular and. I'm thinking about the first caller we had near the near the beginning of the show. Aaron who called in and said that You Know He. He's a rancher and changing his his his local ranching practices but he made the point about that so many farmers are they've made heavy investments is in farming these commodity crops. I mean is that something that we have to really rethink. Yes thank you for the question I think that is the elephant in the Living Ingram And farmers have made those investments because they have been incentivized to make those investments from the behemoth. We call the farm bill. uh-huh people aren't born corn and soybean farmers And it is only been the last half century or so the feedlots and corn and soy have been. It's such a domineering part of not only national but global agriculture and so I think until we address the elephant in the living room. All these other really wonderful constructive discussions of people exploring lots of interesting niches are GonNa be just that. They're going to remain niche. And so while I really applaud the land institute work on on a perennial week dress. I can get really important and it's been going on for decades we cannot forget that we graphs this is a grass. We already know how to grow grass and I think when we when we when people really recognize that millions upon millions of acres in the heartland land richest soil of North America. It's dedicated the crops and aren't really human food. We're primarily growing corn and soy to produce feed for livestock stocks who live in confinement settings. And that's an all and fructose. That generates a lot of another other unhealthy food and public health problems so so if we look at it on that continental scale we need to remember that there's this opportunity to restore grassland go systems which can include turns up But can also include ways to grow very healthy ethically produced protein and that interns produces manure which instead of being in hazardous waste and confined animal feed lot operations can be the very source of soil vitality and trump fertility that we need and at the same time. Couple of discussion If we didn't sort of distort the economic playing field to drive people for using corn and soy then we could re diversify versus by both our landscape and our crops system and I think that that farm bill backdrop is such a fundamental driver of of all the issues. We're talking about Bit until we can develop an elect political leaders who have a clue heavy earthworks. We are not going to be able to the sex successfully thrive and face of climate change. Well Becky we'd joining us from Belgrade Montana. She and her husband Ranch sheep sheep on one hundred sixty acre farm. She's also vice chair of the Montana Organic Association and Co author of the Montana Climate Assessment Becky wheat. It's been so terrific to talk with you and to hear you. Thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you okay so Daniel and mark standby here because I want to let some more callers. Diana is calling from Miami Florida Diana. You're on the air. Thank you for taking my call. The reason I'm calling is first of all to compliment you The host Eh guests for this program because my family owns a ranch in Brazil for over a hundred years. And all these things that you're talking about It's nothing new to me but I appreciate the information and see how things work here because I live in Tucson for almost thirty years and farming and ranching is very close to my heart. I grew up seeing that so What I would like to say is is important for the population for the listeners nurse or people in general to appreciate when they go to the supermarket and they get produce or they get meat of any sort to understand that it's it's not there you know easily It has a cost. It's a lot of work a lot of dedication and and I think that is very important and normally when people say oh my God. This is show expensive. I normally say to them. Do you know how much it costs to produce a maker of tomatoes or `tatoes or whatever how much does it cost to grow a p a an animal to give it a meet and everything's organic on my car of the ranch and On the other animals so I mean that was just read cattle right all right. Well you know Diana I'm GonNa take it back from you there for a second because I hear you saying that. It's very critical for us as consumers to think about the true cost of the of the work that it takes two to produce this food. So thank you so much for your call and on that note. Let's go quickly to Jeremy. WHO's calling from Racine Wisconsin? Jeremy What do you think. What Role Do you consumers have to play in this changing agricultural Issue that we're talking about all right. Thanks technical I think consumers need to address a what we are consuming on a daily basis as a consumer we drive the demand and what farmers grow so if we are heavily consuming beef Pork and products. It's like that it's going to create an environment where you're gonNA have massive mono cropping farmland going on throughout the United States here in Wisconsin the big issue so we need to start focusing on retraining people on the benefits plant based Diet and that will have a compounding repercussions throughout the whole food supply in regards to what we grow and and what we consume on a daily basis which will help address the climate issues as well as utilizing space in an urban environment. for Direct locally grown consumer consumption curtis stone Ah has a book called. Urban farmer in utilizes people's front lawns rents front lines and he produces produce for his his city and and he he grows it the yearly. And he he makes a profit he does very well so there are other ways of doing this. Well Jeremy Thank you so much for your call okay. So so a lot of chew on their Daniel and mark and mark let me just go to you here for a second. Because we'll we'll talk about the consumer's role in just a minute. But Jeremy Jeremy also mentioned sort of just completely other ways of growing food bringing it closer to the consumer and that that reminded me of a part of your series here is where I think it was mark reported about these vast like thirty forty football fields size. Indoor farming Companies issued say or or in places where they're they're they're bringing arming closer to to urban centers by putting it endorsed. Tell me more about that. That's right yeah these are these are some of these very big very big greenhouses. I did visit one down in Georgia. That was more of a rural area. But there's there's also a lot of discussion about Indoor facilities in urban areas and in cities one of the challenges with that being that That real estate is pretty expensive cities and that's a bit of a disincentive But it does it obviously takes seasonality out of it And and you can grow things You know through through the year more or less well. We have some tape here from the Ontario based company company pure flavor They recently spent almost. Wow a hundred and five million dollars on an indoor farm the size of nineteen football fields fields in Fort Valley Georgia and your you'll hear the company's chief marketing officer Chris Video describing this state of the art facility the unique aspect about greenhouse growing is that we can control one hundred percent of the growing environment. What does that mean? We control the water. The nutrition the heat the daylights light the venting basically providing in a controlled environment the most optimal growing scenario for these plants. which as you can see over my shoulder here? A consistent insistent size and quality of product so that's Kris van chief marketing officer for pure flavor and Ontario based company. I mean mark. Are we likely to see more of this kind of farming. Yeah I think so. Yeah I think we are likely to see more of it. There are some caveats in that Some of these indoor endure operations especially if they are not actually greenhouses and need Artificial light they consume energy. You have to have. Yeah so there are are inputs into these things as well but yeah I do think we'll see more of this. Well so Daniel let me turn back to you in the last couple of minutes that we have it and and and there's there are things that Becky said earlier that I just wanted to get your thoughts on since you've youtube been spending so much time reporting on this issue about Food and agriculture and climate change because she really implored all of us to take a look at the big picture here that we have as a nation incentivized certain farming practices which have led to monoculture which have led to investments in agricultural practices? That aren't conducive to soil health. I mean she was talking about the farm. Bill explicitly so Daniel I mean is that a place that that could that's ripe for change. It's a great question Foreign policy is a really important part of this because for the most part of over the years farmers have not ought been incentivized to provide what are called ecosystem services So much as Growing food first and foremost And from the farmers perspective. They're they're quite risk averse and so the idea of switching from something that they've been doing for their entire lives and maybe their parents or grandparents were also doing I it it's a high risk proposition. not just economically but also culturally And so We are sort of gradually moving to a higher level of awareness nationally It's A. It's a slow process But it is happening happening Well I mean we've been talking about broadly speaking regenerative farming right. I mean is. Is that something that is that is catching on. Yeah well it is and Jenner farming Refers to you might consider it a philosophy and a set of best practices around around farming In a way that is a highly sensitive not only to climate concerns but also to Water Quality Eh Other pollution issues around farming But really at its heart. is the The the combination a nation of carbon storage and soil health or the interrelationship between carbon storage and soil health And this is a small movement But it's a growing movement and to speak to sort of consumer issues You know we've seen this happen before with organics six The organic food market started as a very small niche market where consumers had to go to small independently owned stores to find organic organic food ORGANICS has become a major part Of Our of our food system now In Large Part Because Consumers Sumer have demanded it So the idea is that at some point consumers may or will a demand Even more from Food producers in the way of addressing climate change and regenerative egg is is one of the foremost ways that that Farmers are trying to do that. Well in fact you're serious touches on the idea of climate-friendly diets amongst other things right Including Meat Alternatives whether insects to play a greater role in what we eat. It's a really terrific series on climate change and agriculture and the food system. So Daniel q sick and Mark Heller both from any news. Thank you so much for joining us. This hour play and by the way we have a link to the series at our website on point radio dot org definitely definitely check it out. I magnin Chalker Bardy. This is on point.

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Rob & Akiva Need a Podcast 28: The TV Theme Song Tournament

Rob Has a Podcast

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Rob & Akiva Need a Podcast 28: The TV Theme Song Tournament

"Before we get into the greatest TV theme song of all time torn events. We gotta take him on. Thank our sponsor podcast was our friends over at truecar every car comes with Cherif stories. The thing in your bumper nervously picked up your first date that luxury package you've got after a big promotion or the mileage you say by riding your bike all summer long while you can't put a price tag on your stories now at truecar can at least find out what your car is worth. When it's time to sell it or trade it in just go to truecar simply enter your license plate number and watch your car's details pop up then answer a few questions navigation in moon, roof watches, they're gonna bump up your car's value. High mileage already knew it was going to cost you, but find out how much it's going to be in your wallet. So you can plan ahead. And once you're finishing a true cash. Offer sent in minutes, you could take to a local certified dealer to cash out where to trade in. So when you're ready to experience better way to sell or trade in your car checkout. True car today. True cash offer not available in all areas. Akiva needle. That is the theme song to Robin. Akiva, Nida podcast. A wonderful theme song written by listener. Adam Berkowitz of the podcast and TV theme songs is what we're here to talk about on, Robin. Akiva, Nita podcast episode number twenty eight and I'm so excited to be back together with my podcast co host who loves to talk about brackets because he's an avid sports fan has been all his life since his parents put a TV in his bedroom at a young age, worn them shouldn't have done it. But they did it anyway. And now here he is sports fan. Seinfeld expert, man, that's been podcasting with me since all the way back in twenty fourteen. And now here he is the co host of a podcast where we spin a wheel of listener ideas and talk about whatever comes up he. He is the great, Mr. Akiva Winokur. As a going. Rob. Are we said on on Seinfeld? At one point when we got into the hundreds that we sorta regretted like at every episode from zero to one hundred not discussing the fun like athletes were with that number like this up so twenty eight yes, do you have any favorite athletes who are number twenty eight? No. But twenty eight to me, you know, I spend most of my time talking about survivor. I know this is a free podcast Twenty-eight is speaks to me because it's the number of one of my favorite survivor seasons. Survivor Kagi on. Yes. But also Curtis. Martin was number twenty one of the great jets, another another great. So lots of great twenty eight. Okay. We'll see what's the twenty eighth seeded team here. I guess that's not how it's going to work. We're going to discuss TV theme song brackets. They are third bracket that we're doing here in the month of March. It's been March madness nonstop last week. We had our stand tournament a key. Where we went through a list of things to finally decide that we stand a king cake, baby mascot. Yes. We are. You'd new New Orleans pelicans fans, their mascot king baby. King cake baby sweeping the nation. Yeah. Really? It's the only thing people are talking about on the internet this week. The only person not talking is the king cake baby himself. I believe is dormant until next mardi gras ten months from that. Yes. Okay. So we are so excited that we stand the king cake, baby. And kinky baby has so much support right now, including the support of this man who dressed this week as the king cake baby to as part of his celebration of Param here is the co host of the thirty two fans podcast. He is the master of the Google spreadsheet here. He is Mr Alexander, Chester. Thank you very much. Great to be chatting with you, Robin Akiva for the seventh time today. Okay. Now, by the way, the greatest number twenty eight in baseball history is Minnesota twin burp lie Levin. Okay. There you go. Knew of Chester. They spreadsheet of all the great number twenty eight and sports. I mean, rob duty to ask that question. He certainly does. Yeah. Yeah. I have a spreadsheet of every sport from doubles ear all the way up to ninety nine. Okay. So that Alexander Chester that he's name came up quite a bit on the Seinfeld podcast has not come up a ton on, Robin. Akiva need a podcast number twenty eight will commemorate his first appearance here today. So for the uninitiated, Akiva Cain, you tell us a little bit about Alexander, Chester. What do our listeners need to know about and Chester? He likes spreadsheets. He's my coast on thirty two fans podcast is a mean wife doesn't like me and. And I think that's about it. That's about it. That's it. Yeah. Okay. I mean, what else I feel like they'll get they'll get you know, I think our goal today should try and be because Chester made this TV theme song bracket. Rob. I think our goal should try and be to get Chester short-circuit. But like changing the rules sort of messing with his work changing the rules because he will melt down, and I think that'll be fun while you guys co host the thirty two fans podcast together. I feel like that on the Seinfeld podcasts that I think that he was more presented as antagonists of yours. Akita on Seinfeld. The canon of Seinfeld. The canons really are different on Seinfeld fans in RA new p with unsigned field. He was really the villain. He was the Newman of the entire odd cast. No question every week. We would roast them on RAM EP. It's I think our audience is bigger. It would be mean to just like make fun of him every week. You know, he's not in like the are. H E P world doesn't want reality. Tv I so he's he's sort of he's like neutral neutral evil or I don't know. I don't understand sheet. You know, your p is. He is the via up. Yeah. You know, he's not on this. And of course, if any of our listeners who are listeners Robbie community podcast and never checked out. The Seinfeld podcast. You can go back and listen to all one hundred seventy nine episodes of the Seinfeld show recap going to post show. Recaps dot com slash Seinfeld. I tunes every now. And then we hear somebody who begins the journey of thousand miles kief, and we never hear from them again. They're just binge and they never come out of it. Okay. So we have a lot on our plate here today, Chester. And I know that this has been your passion project for a while. This is being spinning around on the wheel for many many weeks. Can you tell us a little bit? How this is all going to work today. Sure. So I had previous to this coming up on being added to the wheel in the first place. I had sort of looked on the internet collected various rankings from about two and two dozen different websites of the best TV theme songs. Just because that's. Kind of thing. I do. And so I I sort of had a chart dormant chart ready when it came up on the wheel I immediately decided to update my chart and number of listeners started, sending an Email or Twitter, Facebook or carrier pigeon their own rankings. And I added those all to the list. So in total we had over two hundred thirty shows that were nominated to be nominated you had to have been on at least two different people's lists. So first of all I wanna say to all of the shows, including the ones that did not make our bracket today. You're all winners. You should all be proud and happy because there's at least two different people who stand for you who love you. Should we listen just all two hundred thirty theme songs and this could be like a marathon. We're doing that aren't we? Right. We're going to all the time with the the regular season. That was the regular season of the TV theme song league. Yeah. Now I've talking to two jets fans. So I'll ask you guys. What it Herm Edwards say why did we play the game played away? Play win the game. There you go. So I to love us what I just said I want to change it up a little bit and say to every one of the songs that's not in this bracket and to every song in this bracket. But the one that will be still alive at the end of this podcast. You're all losers. Your terrible songs you did not win the Reckitt and whoever wrote the song whoever. Composed the song sings song should be embarrassed to to quit. They did because they failed. Okay. Just leave the jokes to Robin. Akiba? I thought that we didn't do enough to set up the Chester back story for who's coming in doesn't know him. I don't know what is the Chester backdoor. Terms of that that he like should I say where we met we met each other not necessarily the origin story. But in terms of the just the spreadsheets that he has the he's a real stickler when it comes to his fantasy leagues. And he is really all about we, you know, he sees the world in very cut and dry terms. Yes. He loves rules more than anybody else. His wife has compared him to John Nash from A Beautiful Mind morning semantic. She says brilliant guy. Yeah. So that's when she told me the first time she saw the charts. It was like I opening like she realized okay who I'm dealing with. I don't know. It's hard to explain because I've never met anybody like him. He's just like imagine imagine like a robot. But like strip way some of the robots charms. Just to give a picture to the listeners gesture that how how many hundreds of spreadsheets do you have of ranking things I can't really count it like that. Okay. So the numbers probably larger than the hundreds. Okay. But I don't want to say like, oh, I didn't sleep. I didn't sleep till four because I was updated like my all decade and felty miffed at the end of every season. He's got hundreds of charts needs update from every more. And it's an addiction. Like, I feel like if you're just like took his files away. It would be the best thing. It's it, and I've mentioned say to my wife and she alcohol or cocaine so charts is relatively on. I would much rather my child addicted to cocaine. I'll give them cocaine getaway from the Google docs. I read this week, by the way gesture obsessed with Google docs, kids are are sex thing through. Yes. Yes. That is the number one new sexting app for young children. These teenagers are starting Google docs, and sending each other pictures and all sorts of illicit messages on Google documents chest, are you worried that maybe the feds could shut down docks. Yeah. This is the second time that teenage sexiness come up in the last twenty four hours because last night, I had dinner with a high school teacher who's that. This is a big problem in our community in my neighborhood. So in northern New Jersey, they're doing this as well. Apparently. Okay. Just could you share? What is the most obscure thing that you have made a spreadsheet about that you could share with us. Well, I think it's it's even random than spreadsheets is like one time I was going to possibly have flight with a two hour layover and Cincinnati. And so I made also make gloom apps for every city with like every single location that I might want to stop by. I didn't know the stork sites tourist places to go. Kosher restaurants at cetera almost. Nebraska. No. But not yet. But I will when that when that comes up on the wheel. So I made this whole map for Cincinnati because I was gonna have to our layover even though in the best case scenario, it would be possible. If I desire to possibly go to one of these places, okay? Is that they're shared? And so like one time I noticed like, however, many hundreds of people at checkout, my Cincinnati map. And it was funny. I was like all right. So at least someone got benefit from this. 'cause I've never been to Cincinnati. Okay. Wonderful town, though, it may be we'll see if if it comes up when we talk about w later on their spoiler alert. But yeah, my favorite Chester chart is one time. He had an argument with his inlaws about where they spend Passover he made a list and his is from Detroit, and he made a list of I think one hundred ranked cities in America from one two hundred spend Passover over Detroit. Juster? Can you actually believe that one of my podcast co host actually said one time that ranking things is both arbitrary and reductive? Wait, not not this co no not different different person. If that's too bad. That's I mean, that's all we do on thirty two fans this month. We've been ranking things and I will say the ring we have coming up. This week is is truly the stupidest ring any podcasts has ever done. What is it ready? But don't. We we know what to say, right. It's a secret that we could say it you said you didn't want to. I don't care. No. We don't we're not going to say, it's a prize. It's so stupid. It's spoiled when they see the title of the pie that we have not just around to do it for spoilt five minutes into the episode. I said, okay. And last thing before we get to our main course, Chester have you made a spreadsheet ranking the previous twenty-seven episodes of Robin Akiba new podcast. No. And honestly it was about because I should have done that for the Sipho podcasts. And by the time idea came up to me, I was like eighty deep, and I wasn't gonna go back and read although many listeners have and yet here at the start of it. I just I didn't think a bit unfortunate. I did rank the first ten in. Then I did not rank them after that. Unfortunately, you'll have to go back to the seventeen. It's not that hard. Okay. All right. Okay. So just talk us through our main course here today. Okay. So so as I said I compiled all the rankings. I got composite averages I'm doing this objectively. I don't put my thumb on the scale some of my favorite shows, some of my favorite theme songs did not make it unfortu-. But the brakes, so for example, horsemen I love that one to not make it, and then I was trying to figure out how to divide up into brackets and how to see them and what to do. And I do it by genre Isleta decided that when we look at television in general, you can sort of divide it into four eras. And so we were going to we're going to do that today as well. So there's the early years of TV the nineteen fifties in the nineteen sixties. Then there's what's considered the golden age of TV, which is the seventies. Ages like the wiring sopranos ten years ago peak TV. Okay, fair. Then there's then there's what I call the childhood bracket because it's the eighties nineties. So it's childhood for the three of us some of the listeners who fasteners Nick preview of the chart commented that because of their youth. This is not their childhood, but the child would region eighties nineties to it as a bad name for this region. The. Just claim. Ars dad? Locked the TV and closet in Minneapolis somewhere. And he wasn't allowed to. I very limited TV because I was the opposite of Akiva growing up when I came to access to television. Okay. So, you know. And then we have the modern era the from two thousand on the TV age as Keita all those the four brackets in. Then I was trying to figure how many should we should we limit it to eight from each bracket? So we'll have to we said last week. Juster Chester has the famous thrifty thirty two that comes thought we were doing. Thought we were doing there's there was too many good ones. And then sixty four be ridiculous. We'd be here all day. So I ended up cutting off at forty four this eleven there's eleven shows in each region. And that was sort of where there was a very natural sort of big gap sort of tier break in the rankings. And so it really worked out pretty nicely that way the top the top five songs top five shows in each region. Get a by the automatic go to the thrifty thirty two. But if you're six seven eight nine ten eleven you've made it to the turn and congratulations. But you got to win a match up to to advance the thrifty car question. Yes. Yes. We listened to these songs more than once. Because then I think the I can't do that much math. It's a lot. It's important that you mentioned that because as listeners to thirty two podcasts. No, of course, Akiva, and I did a serial tournament in October and the serial tournament is sometimes if when you're doing a bracket, you just sort of look at the two things you think about them, and you make a selection if you're if you're doing movies, for example, you're not going to watch movies back to back obviously over number. It's impossible. But. But to really be a purist to really give it the best. It's not just the reason that you do a bracket as opposed to just a ranking is because sometimes item a might be better than item B and B might be better than item C, but C N A when they match up for whatever reason, you prefer a and that that can't happen in making way up in a bracket and the only way to really give it a fair shot is to to taste both to look at both to listen to both each time. So I don't think literally right after that every single time in this tournament. But I know we also also to ease that we'll go in entire regions before we go to the next region so songs or fresh in our mind, but we will probably have to listen to a couple of a couple of times as they advance on to sort of refresh our memories, or at least the first couple bars just to get us back to the mood. We don't have to listen to, you know, all two minutes of the sopranos offers ample six times at war to advance that. But we will give it a chance. So yes, I wanted to say a couple of the things we were already arguing about this before we on the this is the big controversy. Yes. Okay. So so television is of course. Visual medium, podcasting is obviously, you know, audio medium. So we're primarily focused today on the song itself. But what we're really talking about? When we're type at TV theme song is not the you're gonna go. Download this MP three and listen to it as you're working out. It's when you watch this show, what kind of feeling do you get the opening credits come on it immediately. If it's on Netflix. Skip the credits or do you start singing along humming along you enjoy it so much really gets you pumped up an exciting excited for the show. And it's not just listened to it that has an effect. It's also looking at it. And there's a couple of these in particular, and we got a lot of listeners who I sent this to issue comments, by the way, and I'll come up, but the key. You are the op in most of the listener comments listener comments were like, well, this should beat this. And you and rob probably agree. But keep is going to be a troll wanna pick this that came up for multiple people multiple times. Ooh. But. And nobody said that their comments were confidential. So I will give them credit or a program is necessary. When we mentioned who they are. But there's a couple of shows, and I'll just mention one about madman madman's visuals really really help it. And allow it to some of the listeners opinions beat beat shows that that if you just listen, it might not be. So obviously, the listeners today will be listening, but we will share the bracket, I think, right? So they'll be able to go on the website. So. So this this bracket. Okay. Will it be filled in as we're going along or that this with the clean bracket will be able to be shared, Chester. I'm gonna fill it in obviously for the purpose of this podcast. But I think you can you can share clear it out after the fact if people wanna follow along and watch the visuals if they need them go to rob as website dot com slash TV Barack it, and they are hyper links for everything that we're going to talk about here today. Yep. And another thing I just want to mention is of course, for many of these shows the theme song is different season to season and even episode episode. And so for those every single different right? Yeah. Exactly. So don't, but then we had that issue with the Ciro tournament we had like Honey bunches of oats, and there's many different varieties. For example. There was a controversy when somebody tried to insert Honey nut cheers for regular Cheerios in the elite eight because hunting that had been eliminated in regular advance. So we're going to for this purpose of this podcast. We're just going to do the one link that I've already embedded. It just goes some of my show season. One episode one to sort of get the original tastes some of my chose of middle of the middle of the run episode. But we'll just we'll stick with what we have here for the purpose of cannon for for this tournament. And then just the one of the things I should have had this came on the air. But rob, I think you should play when we got up to when we got up to a bracket a matchup, especially in the first round where people don't know what's coming at play the songs clicked links without announcing what it is. Because I think that's for the listeners. It's also enjoy to listen to it and see today immediately know what this is and also because we don't want people to prejudge and say oh well being things enjoyable for the listener steps Odia. Okay. Okay. And now will this work like our previous two brackets where a kiva, and I will vote a argue the tiebreaker Chester. Yes. So that's what I was thinking I made the bracket. But again, I did not put my thumb on the scale. But I did fill out a bracket like the listeners of how I would see it go. But this is your European cast. I'm just the facilitator here. So you too will vote and I will. Only step in if it's one one if it's you know, we need a time anchor a rubber match. Yeah. So but other than that if it's too nothing that I'm not going to start opining the way that Jerry did recently in our podcast because some necessary. Okay. Akiva. Is there anything else we need to set up? No. I think we're I think we're good to go. We should give props to ombudsperson. I you show whose idea this was even before she was inefficient. Yeah. Yes. Okay. We have more updates from her later on in the shell. Okay. If we ever get to the mount Renate more away. We'll have to see how much parter I don't know. I'm nervous that's gonna take forever. Just as a time. Check also a story to follow as we're going through the bracket. Keep a what time is it locally for you. It's six AM to oh, six AM here at the start of the TV theme song bracket. Yeah. Too late night for us. Okay. All right. What was the problem here that just you need to put your kids to battery to watch the NCAA tournament. Yeah. I excuse was the former but may might have been the latter. Okay. That's that's setting. You know, sports on the pockets. Okay. All right. All right. All right. So where should we start? Rob. You're the king of this podcast Kincaid baby semi. Do you wanna start it? Well, I think let's start in the upper left hand corner in the modern era game. Okay. So eight nine game. So rob whenever you're ready starts play number eight. All right here, we go and the trick is going to be as I play these YouTube videos, which of them have an ad enabled where we sit through an advertisement. All right. So here we go I'm gonna plug. I'm going to start the start the play in three two one. The nearly billion years. Expansion started waiting. Actual candid Julianne doll develop those rebuild the wind. With. The man is really not that. Now, hold on. Let me just say. So at that point that is when the TV show would start we're going to watch the whole. The version minute that twenty I picked I generally pick the one that now I mean, as we know this is not keep most versions depending on the length of each episode. There is no version of the show theme song. There's no version of the show where they play the minute long theme song as somebody who's never seen the big bang. I have no way to know if that's accurate out. So for instance, like the cheers fem- song like the re the if you ever hear the extended version which they play like in the one hundred anniversary episode over a montage is like three or four verses. You knew never hear that in the actual opening credits. I feel that we should keep it to what you would hear on the actual show. Never the answer to that for this. When I really don't know I've never seen. That's when the show starts on the bang theory. Okay. So you've caught us news that I would pretend our forty four siblings to go through. All right. So. Is big bang theory. Okay. All right. So we're not going to discuss the big bang theory here. I at all or we going to then come back into Scott both. I think that again, I think you're not looking at it in a vacuum, you comparing to another specific show, Akiva, do you want as a noted big bang theory. Hater say upfront about the big bang theory. I mean, I've never seen it. But my wife would why is this still on my wife used the watch it? It is still I still on for another two weeks. Yeah. Final episodes coming on. All right. All right. So that is the number eight seed, and it is taking on the number nine seed here. And we're going to bring that in in three two one. Words. Words. Sort of. Okay. All right. The office is the number nine seed big bang theory versus the office. All right. Akiva USA about the office theme song. It's very iconic. Again. There are no words I feel like most of the songs we're going to be hearing today have some sort of words, but I do think it's much more conic than the big bang. Theory's theme song take on a second life where it's infinitely more popular than it was when it was actually on TV the big bang theory. I feel like even though I've never really seen the show outside of like a scene here too. They're the theme song is the shell like just assaulted. Thirty noise. Once. Wow. Throwing bright lights at the screen. There's so much going off. So I think the best thing that the big bang theory theme song has going for it is that it is performed by a noted artist in the bare naked ladies. And so if you are a fan of the stylings of the bare naked ladies music than this is a natural hook for you. But rob what if you're a fan of the Scranton's that who performs the song to the office? That is the artist for the office the Scranton's. Okay. Is that they're only songs they've ever screened out. So. Now, I could be confused because I don't remember if this was always sunny or this is for the office or maybe it's for both. But for one of them, and again, it could be for both the the actor who plays Jim. And in the other one act plays MAC, just drove around Philadelphia slash Scranton with a camcorder sort of making the video that became the intro. Now, I'm not going to let so one of those present ski who has no sort of ownership of the show as opposed to MAC who's show. It's always. Yes. So I I don't remember what it's about. That's true. But wanted to buy one of the things that's interesting about a lot of these songs of the forty four in our bracket. So many of them are Representative of one city. I just mentioned Philadelphia, and we have Cincinnati in the Appleton Milwaukee. And a lot of show nap for everybody west. It's really interesting to see how each of these cities sort of gets its own little vignette. Now Scranton is sort of Representative of any town USA more than Scranton per se, obviously in in the central town USA. Yeah. But I like how about how the office doesn't have lyrics because to me the big bang theory. It's only it has really catchy lyrics. Like the lyrics are actually funny and interesting. However, the song itself is even though the lyrics are actually pretty smart and witty it's pretty boring in my opinion. But again, I'm not if I came into like, listen, someone's someone's I tune started playing and the big bang theory theme song came on. I would call the police the office came on and be like, okay. That makes sense. So they're listening to the theme song the not the show. Just listen to thirty seconds of the Scranton's. No. He's the guy gets you. It gets. About. The big bang theory theme song actually also has nothing to do with the actual show. It's like it's more of a song about the actual big bang theory. Like, there's no reference like the song of the universe of human history when Leonard and Sheldon moved into gather. There was a girl next door, and she was really cute and Leonard have. Nothing. By the way, you're wrong. That is the second stanza cut it off, by the way, I feel that the need to in case any of our listeners want to live tweet a their takes along the way, we should give out eight Chester ninety nine is the Twitter handle out, Chester. Now, somebody ask why is the office as kiva side? Really iconic wise it the lower seed here in this matchup, the big bang theory appeared on twice as many exactly many ran every office not telling us how many charts? Okay. All right. I think we're ready to make a call here. We got a forty two more songs to get to here today. So I say, let's let's advance the office. Yeah. The offices advancing, but I think do we go straight to its matchup with with the one seed, Chester. Yeah. Again, let it's fresh on our minds. Let's the eight nine winners the office the number nine seed a mild upset, although I think pretty much everybody. I know had them advancing. And now they face the number one seed, let's hear that new feel that bracket here. So about four five listeners, you ordered me to send it to them. And each one of those people's sent me back tweeted that you. Yeah. Yeah. And then I actually had my wife do it as well. And she was really against it because podcasts and television all the things she hates, but she got really into it. And she she had a lot of very strong opinions as well. Which will also come in as we go on so. Okay. All right here. We gotta brag before the podcast that a lot of people say life looks like lady from crazy, Adam Ellen Pompeo, Ellen Pompeo is that her name. I'm not let me go. Let me find out is that is that the one that like like knocked away at a Hollywood because she's so unlikeable or is that that's Catherine Tikal that was. Peyot is just very very pale blonde. So I think that's okay, fine. All right into the number one seat number one role seed in the tournament, Chester. It is not an overall. Well, it could be okay. All right. So this is our number nine the all hold on. Yes. That was great question by kiva because I had divided up, but I'm actually looking to number one seed in the entire turn higher tournament. Is it is on the most rankings? It's top ten on one two three four on like seven or eight different lists, very very popular. Okay. It's number one four reason. Let's go ahead. And listen to our number one seed in the modern era. Refilled this forever season. I don't know ever season. But they did update it. Suit. All right. That is the theme to season one of friends, and I have to say that this video that you picked out here Chester that they have labeled friends like, it's an acronym. It's crazy dot dot like like agents of shield did friends stand for something. If you look at the how it actually shows up on the screen. It's. In the middle though in the middle. It's not an abbreviation. So said a complaint to Fiagaro floors who shared that on. On youtube. Could it be spelled anymore incorrectly? I don't know the first comment that I see is my favorite anime opening isn't animation. I, of course for people that are listening to the audio version of the podcast. So they are jumping around a fountain for some reason. I mean at the very least committing a misdemeanor all six of them. But it is interesting. Also now, obviously for certain episodes, it wouldn't play this whole thing. But forty eight seconds for a twenty two minute network comedy is quite long and yet, and I don't know about you guys. But I wasn't sort of wanting to stop at the way, I was with the big bang theory. I thought it managed to carry carry my interest for all. What do you tell us your opinion? So the theme song to friends though, is I contact. I mean, the song with actually played on the radio. I believe is the Rembrandts guessing this like this song was a number one hit single in the mid ninety. I believe I think so because of this show. Song? But yeah, it was definitely it was definitely like a song in nineteen ninety four. The song end show were the hottest thing that was going. Yes, now, let me ask you another Rembrandt song. Definitely not. Name a single Rembrandt painting either. I don't know if that's you know. Rembrandt toothpaste. I think that had like baking soda and peroxide, but I stopped making that but like green day's time of your life is known for many people as the Seinfeld song. Even though it was already a really famous song before it was on. Like the Seinfeld recap this song only became famous principally because of this show. Yeah. The song was released as the first single from the group's third studio album LP, which reaching the top ten in Australia, New Zealand and Norway, and as well Ireland and in the United Kingdom and ninety five hundred ninety seven and Canada song reached number one for five weeks and was the highest selling single of nineteen ninety five while in the US the song reached number seventy. It wasn't hot one hundred for eight weeks. You know, I don't know. I think with I think with we could first of all I think we could put friends through. I don't think friends is going to lose here to the office because it's an actual saw. Like, the office doesn't have words. Are you vote again vote for the office? You know, I think that we we need to talk about the friends theme song here and why it's such a big deal in the tournament. But I'm sorry. I do think how much money do you think the Rembrandts have made also because it syndicated every day, it's on Netflix for zillion dollars. They must be paying their bills. Just with this theme song. I don't dunno question. Let's put that on the wheel asking the Rembrandts about their financial situation. If we do music videos to see if we can get them onto about the I'll be there for you. That's good idea. I think that they might in the actual music video. I think that maybe they had the friends cast also messing around with them. I mean back when the. That would be an expensive get them. Now, if any of the friends cast like ran into them like they would just like walk. The theme song. But not for the first time today you've already disappointed, Dan Birkin. Okay. We individualistic like it's like when someone talks about the bracket. Only factor had the office making all the way to the elite eight so I so friends the office. Right. So friends is moving on the office one in one win and then done. Yes. A good showing art. Now, we jumped to who will friends play. It's the four five matchup these teams like friends got a bye, okay. All right. So we're going to bring you the number four seed here in the tournaments. They're playing the four five game. And then the winner will take on friends, and here, they are the theme song to a show that has already been mentioned here in said podcast here, we go. Eighteen seconds thirty five. One thing. It's always sunny does is they they have sort of a cold open. And they they they use the title as sort of like the live from New York. It's Saturday night. But then they then they like break right into the theme song. I wonder how many shows start with the theme song. I get to the theme song like a minute or two it. Yeah. It's interesting because it's always sunny in Philadelphia is you know, like, very crass. It's very dark. But then they're theme song is like a real like pallet cleanser that is the opposite of what the show is not a lot of shows that are going to be here that are going to have a theme song, which is like totally completely the opposite of what you're about two minutes. This is the first song we've heard so far on this podcast that people have probably walked down an aisle to that's weird. Yeah. I feel like if they're walking down in. I'll there's probably like four barstool flags at this wedding. What is going? Now is it a song that is popular outside of? It's always sunny for love. This is not an original song for it's always sunny. Correct. Now, this is this is from Heinz Kissling and this song is called temptation sensation. And I I went down a rabbit hole many years ago of hind Kissling songs on YouTube because I liked them so much from always sunny, and then I actually had a bunch them on my on my ipod, which is not a thing that exists anymore. But so highs Kissling does make a lot of a very enjoyable music of this. Okay. We could have been Heinsohn stands if you had just Kissling apparent. So it's always sunny in Philadelphia visually. Akiva, does it do anything for you. Not really. Yeah. That's insulting MAC. Ready for this? The over. Hit really just needs a quick like. All right. We get it. If fourteen seconds. We could be done. Yeah. Just do you have a Google map for Philadelphia? I went to college Philadelphia. We could use that in a couple of weeks to wrestle. All right. So four five game. Okay. This is the five seed keeps you four seat is a high. I always on. I mean. But again, we allot of it goes to the popularity of the show. I think and again to make clear to the listeners like these are not Chester's takes for seeding. Right. These were gestures compilation of listener and expert rankings. So. Ratings to have that have always in the top six overall. Yeah. All right. So so it has its fans. All right here, we go so taking on the five seat. I will say buckle up. This is a long one get ready for one minute and forty one seconds here of our number five seed in the tournament, but you could drive I think you'd also get away with forty five seconds. Also, I don't think we need to put the phone hundred. You gotta play the whole game of thrones one time at least once. Right here. We go. The opening theme to season one of game of thrones. Did you hear that they way that they did that opening sequence for game of thrones? Was they had Dinares tar Gary and just flew around on one of the dragons with a camcorder just everything in western. She is the show runner also. Yes. And they just went with that. Can I say that I've watched every episode of this show? I've watched every episode, and I never pay attention to the theme song. And if I think that is surprising to no one. Like, I don't know. I don't know like people like ooh, they went to winter fail this week. That's exciting. I've never once even though like they probably put in like weeks of work. And it's like a very nice thing. You're not wrong because they do misdirection. They've intentionally put in the opening some places that they won't have seen in that episode by like they don't update it for every single episode. I mean. Dan. But I don't think there's anything back. Keep a you and Bill Simmons have like the same game of thrones takes. Okay. You don't have to pay that much attention. Because he probably couldn't name any of the characters. And I'm also even though I've read the books and watch the show. I. Rob your Bill Simmons oppression and your Donald Trump oppression. Various. It's not enough for you. It's more for for one of those. All right. So GIO t SIP. By rob. You it said that you thought four was too high for always sunny both of these and I did not make my own ranking. I didn't want to affect the the overall bracket, but both of these would be in my top. If not top-five definitely top ten. Yeah. But their shows, I love Seinfeld. That's not on here. This is an incredible this match in my opinion, you have the most low budget of show openings with a song that was not an original composition with a opening theme song that is epic. That is a ridge an opening sequence, which probably costs hundreds of thousands of dollars gets updated. By the episode that I think that this is like an ultimate below out for game of thrones. Yeah. No question. Only people pay buy tickets to hear a symphony perform around the country, and they're like sold out, and that's gamma throws. Yes. Okay. You got me scared. Hands the composers. Damon song, I guess, but that's a theme song. Okay. So we got we have friends game of thrones in the elite eight. Okay. All right. Then are we going to the bottom half now? And then we'll go we'll go back friends game of thrones. Right. We could wake because we just talked about both shows. I think we should let it simmer for a few minutes. Okay. So friends and game of thrones. Both make it to this week sixteen and we will move on for a second see who they will match up. So. Thirty two because we were definitely wrong. Forty four is forty eight. It's definitely a better number here. Definitely not. All right. Okay. All right. Let's start. So that we have our six eleven game. If you're listening to the pockets, I have no idea how your following any of this. If you're not looking at the the bracket, but just okay? So there were six songs in the top of this half of the bracket. Now, we will get to the six in the bottom half of this quadrant. We start here with these six eleven game. Okay. Let's get to our number six seed, which is going to be taking on the number eleven seed here. Here IS NUMBER six seed. Okay, kiva. Yeah. Do you have any thoughts on Malcolm in the middle? Our number six seed parents were very mean, they'd never would have paid for their kids to get into college. If they were rich. Do you guys know who sings that? It's a very famous band. Oh, yes. Real big fish, something like that. They might be giants. They might be close nerd rock. Are you a Malcolm in the middle watcher, rob I was not I was not I think it mostly aired during the time that I was in college. And I think that it was not the time like how they had it been on when I was in high school probably would have seen it. I had a friend and it was mostly over. I think by then it was in its later years out of college who it was a single favorite shop. It would be like, oh, I don't like the wire great shows like Malcolm in the middle. It was his favourite show, which is an insane favorite shop. This guy that I know Cuba. Why the same guy that you know, is in the middle, and we have some of the same friends. So. Yeah, probably. Yeah. So let's the air date was January two thousand to may two thousand six. It started when I was a college. But most of the run came after I had graduated now Malcolm in the middle opponent. And I mentioned this before for always you laugh to me. But Malcolm in the middle of opponent, the eleven seed I literally walked down the aisle at my sister's wedding to the song. Okay. All right. It's about Malcolm in the middle keys before we hear the eleven seed. No, I I don't I watched like most episodes of Malcolm in the middle. But I don't like it. I feel like that Malcolm in the middle entire legacy is Bryan Cranston went on. It's that was a show that Bryan Cranston bosom buddies for Tom Hanks or something like that or sisters for George Clooney like does it air anywhere. Now. It would be a weird show to syndicate even though it probably would hold up like a certain type of kid. Okay. All right. Are you ready for the number eleven seed play it? All right here, we go number eleven seed here comes Chester down the aisle. Okay. Now, this is a little bit of a tricky one key that you don't really hear the whole song. They're on. Minute the end credits. Like as you're watching the credits the screen at the end you hear the whole song, and nobody sticks around for the end credits of HBO show, unless they also watch the next show. Yeah. Rannells finale and you're waiting for some closure. Yes. That will never come. Yeah. So can I give a spoiler alert to the wedding that I walked down the. You missed my all time tenets. 'cause we can't hear you. Yeah. So unfortunately, but the worst part about that to me personally is that I am this is mixing mixing L D shows a little bit, but I wiped out conductors little stick as I came down the aisle to conduct to the song. And I got a good laugh, and you know, that's in the winning. Was basically it sounds like. You walk down to the song with frigging stick in your hand. I don't believe it. She had she had no involvement in the wedding. Okay. All right, Malcolm in the middle versus curb your enthusiasm Keiv. Song is actually kind of good. But the curbs on is like a running theme on this show. It would be crazy to knock it out in the first round. I think the curb song is I con that. There are videos that become knee ends on air now than it was when the show was really popular theme song. Right. This is a mismatch. I think at six eleven I don't know if you wanna call it and upset, but I think that we have to advance Kerber we'd have to retroactively cancel our Seinfeld podcast potato day. Big upset. Yeah. Sometimes the eleven is a one point underdog to a six. Now. Kevin Donnelly was he he he's a listener he sent me to brackets. He sent me what should happen Brechin. Oh my God. What will happen bracket? College. A lot of time. Now, he had Malcolm in the middle going all the way to the elite eight, but he acknowledged that Robin. Akiva will probably give it to curb over, Malcolm. Which in my opinion is decision safe. I had Kevin if you played the Malcolm in the middle theme song for for most people. I don't know if more than sixty percent of podcast listeners would guest that's the Malcolm in the middle fem- song. Yeah. That's good question. I'm surprised you say that because I never saw Malcolm in the middle. And I know that song really really seen one episode. Now. But I know that song, I know all the words to it, or at least thirty I know, I know I know the video like I'm very familiar with the opening theme come in the middle. I I've never seen the opening theme to Malcolm in the middle. I've heard I've heard the song definitely. But I think like the theme to show what show is boy is that boy meets world. Like, I think it would be you don't own a -sarily. What show? It is interesting. All right. So let's our next match up the final final match up in the in the round of forty okay? Key. Kirby really Damon. And we still have seven ten to seed here in the modern tournament stuff. And I'm and I'm barely okay fine. Okay. All right. What time check eve it's two thirty eight AM we're having we're having fun having woken up the kids. Okay. All right. So here we go. The number eleven Kerber enthusiasm plays one of the one of the shows that got a first round. Bye. Let's go ahead. And check out the number. This is visual one. So listeners run to your computers. Okay. All right. Check out the number three seed starting now. The remix. Okay. All right. Mad men. That's really gets me pumped up. Like, a mad men guy. I watched the first season together. And then like I just couldn't get together with our to watch the second season. She would never commit to watching it. And she walked on me once watching season two episode one. Well, and. And we went about five six years without watch. Without watching a show together. Really? India or speaking. But I've never seen a real. Oh, man. So all right. Just are you Big Ben guy? Yeah. Well, I mean, I it's in my top ten TV shows all time our top fifty man. But well, no because I'm not compared to the madman stands are like insane about this show, then so I'm definitely not a madman Stanley. I think it's a really good show. But I didn't like I wasn't in love with it over the the way that Waller are a lot of. I am person. This is going to be controversial take that. I wanted people that believes that mad men is one of the all time shows that totally petered out or the end of I agree with you the last season was much. I fully on the emperor had no clothes by the end of this show and the Alan Sepang walls of the world. Like like, oh my God. Madman. And like I think that after season three season four. I don't know if there was a ton there with madman. There was a lot. I think it suffered from a lot of the things that the soprano suffered from a lot of storylines a lot of characters that just were going nowhere. And we were running in circles. I think you're offended that the Mets fan committed suicide. I don't know which character that is but madman verse curb. Huge matchup. Yeah. I think that curb is the bore icon. Ick TV song. I think that you you hear it. And you know, immediately what it is ever seen the show madman. Unless you like watch the Emmys where they probably play it when they win an award. You probably don't know the badmin- theme song like it doesn't have on cultural relevance. But I think it's a better song. It's a really great theme song. The mad men saw the currencies Hasim. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna think we're gonna give this to Chester for the first time. I think that the words to the song that they're not include that goes mad men. Mad men. There's a TV the Netflix show love where like the V like group of characters get together at this guy's house once in a while, and they like right theme songs to movies that don't have theme songs like they're improv. Just right. Like joking theme songs like ran the movies. You know, what I think the problem with mad men was that? I think that the that the show runners like or. Go with the winner, though, don't be sham that there's a war on your last name. Like, I think that the the cast members like the the the core Catholic. There was no reason why any of these people should have like this was a real story like gone their separate ways. Oh, we can't lose Joan can't lose Peggy can't lose any of these other people. And I think there was. Oh, we gotta give more and more stuff. More thrones. I've heard. Right. Don, Draper was just going in circles. How many times are you gonna see he's up? He's down. He's up these down. So. He's only going down in the opening credits. Right. Right. And then I think a lot of people felt like, oh, it's all going to make sense. The opening credits means something mean, anything stopping people think this is a team TV theme song bracket. But this is really like a history of television inside of. No, I very disappointed with the last couple seasons of madman. 'cause I stuck around the whole way by the way because John nationals reference Ciller in this podcast. I should mention that the name of the song in the madman seem is a beautiful mine. Miami. Okay. Are J D two makes no sense either. But. So are you voting for Kerber? All right. So this is my first time actually making an official vote here on the podcast today. I think I've established my my curb STAN bona feed as I love curb. I love this song, but a madman. Bona feed days or do not know the word bona fides. I actually pause for a split second before I said it, and I was gonna say bona fides, I thought you were gonna make fun of me. So I quickly switched bona feed. I guess wrong. I guess in kind. Chester. Okay. All right. So mad men advances and awaits who are whoever comes out of this seven ten to quagmire. Okay. What quagmire we're not up to family guy. Okay. Seventeen. Intra network. Very very tough battle here. I think to iconic shows conic song. Here we go here. We're going to visit another shell that was has been mentioned. Here we go our number seven seed. HBO HBO. Gets you up though, the HBO doesn't it? Who's filming this song AJ soprano in the feel? Feels. This is my drive everyday. Do you fear the mob living in New Jersey, Chester? He goes a little bit further on the turnpike than I do. Okay. There you go the sopranos song and the open and songs that are Tony driving home appears to be like six AM. Right. Isn't that what he's doing seems like he's getting home and it's just morning from the city. Also, he had a meeting with Johnny fat. But they're like the strip club is not in the city. Right. So where would you wouldn't be on the highway? Yeah, they add the visit new family that he had ever. Did something theme songs in every every. He does that every episode. The episode starts where Tony walks. A lot of times it starts with him with him getting the paper on right? Yeah. I mean, he's also like one hundred pounds. Heavier by seven in hindsight. A bad decision. I think. Yeah. That's a long song. But they played it every episode, right? The soprano they really did play that like HBO we've learned with the thrones in the sopranos because they're sort of much looser with time than the networks. They can really like having second theme song pretty easily. Whereas like that time is precious. But as good as that song is let's be honest. You guys were skipping over it. When you're watching episodes, right? How we skipping over. It was on. Chester your Johnny come lately to soprano, John. I've never I've never watched. Like on my TV on HBO. I use HBO go and didn't exist. When was on. All right. Yeah. Why didn't see sopranos live? I saw it later. This sopranos is conic theme song. I think that that band sold three. The song got a little play as a single people. Go on tours to go on seal places that Tony drives past the pizza land shop and stuff like that. So the Spanos teams on big deal. Now, interestingly enough because as I said the artists there's Alabama three it's opponent and other HBO show. Famously had the same song for all five seasons song by five different artists and one of them all the one fortunately not link embedded in the in the bracket guys was by the blind boys of Alabama. Okay. All right. So here we go the number ten seed here in the in the modern era bracket taking on the sopranos. Here we go. Big. All say, all right. Season two as a much better thing. So. Okay. The wire the wire the ten seed key. Are you big wire guy? I think there's very little that needs to be discussed. Promise theme song is just a better song than the wire saw. Yet. The sopranos theme song is better. They never had to change the soprano song. If the wire song was that great. They wouldn't have changed integrate. Stretch take no one is not the best young. And then like a better one comes up, Chester. What are you saying that this song is perfect? Let's change it every year. I mean that was David Simon's plan was that he wanted to have different artists perform it every year. Now be three because it was gonna be revisionist history to me like, no, I know we always wanted different people. But he said this in the middle of the runny said this after one of the seasons. Like, yeah, we change it every year next year. It's gonna be different. Yeah. That sounds like I meant to do that. And and also like wouldn't have started with Tom waits? Then who wrote the song? I don't know what he was thinking. All right. Tom waits the blind, boys. Valla? Bama, Neville brothers Domo. Steve. What's your favorite of the five? Are you dislike all of them? Apparently. I mean, I remember thinking that there were better. Like there was sometimes some years probably like season three or four that might actually forced first one is one of my least favorite. I don't remember the fifth one. Honestly, it's too depressing. I think is the biggest. Make crack in heroin. Yeah. Watching people make charts. Now. They're doing on the wire. Have you considered a career in law enforcement? All right. So we have we don't have time for jokes. We gotta keep. Jokes. Okay. Yeah. Sopranos going the number two seed, which honestly shocked me that it was this high when I. I don't know it just. All right. Yes. Here we go a shocker here at the two seed here we go taking on the sopranos. You know? Transition. Okay. That is the theme song to the unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt and out of nowhere to seed. Can I keep says, he's totally familiar? So can I presented a little bit for the keys of our listeners. Never heard that song before even though I think I've seen the show. But I guess maybe skip. The theme song I watched a few couple episodes from the first season. I saw like one episode. But I assume you'd have to get through. I think that ever like I'd like to hear from the I think Mike blue maybe a commission mic. Do they fast forward through the song? Because oh, I think that this is essentially. I noticed in the credits on YouTube songs by Richmond. If you recognize that name, rob derecognised that name. So it's a little bit of nepotism. He writes that song. I did he Ribe the Tina Fey bribe someone to put this on the chart like this. This would be surprising Levy eleven seed. It's shocking that this is a two seat. I'm shocked. Okay. So hold on now. So let me give you the context here. There are only two television shows that were a number one or number two overall theme song on more than one of my twenty five plus rankings. And both of these shows were at number one number two on at least four rankings. One is cheers which is not in this region, obviously and the others unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, and I'm not talking about the listener. Let's talk about like website lists. It's number one number two in many many lists. It's extraordinarily popular. And of the listeners who wrote in one of them had when going all the way, and specifically said, I'm really worried that in keeps attempt not to be basic. Can they? Basic. Instead of instead of a pre sheeting how great about theme song. It is in other person said if kief on breakable Kimmy Schmidt early I'm not listened to. Two hours in with sewer for four matchups. So so people are really worried about kief here. The critics let me just say this. It does more in twenty five seconds than any other teams song does in two minutes. It like the entire big bang literally history, really. Chester. It's like first of all they do the thing that when we get to the other like the golden age, especially will realize they do the thing that sitcoms me, which is they tell the whole back story of the show. She's unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. They do it in a very funny way. It's like the whole thing member like Antoine Dodson like they ripen everybody up here you remember that guy. So they reference that the very first note is a nod to the Simpsons. So this this song is definitely the smartest estimating himself. Demolish right. Chester's making a lot of sense to me. Way with unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, or the I'm not saying how voting I'm just presenting some cases because Keith is very this is really. No, the song ten seconds ago. Well, I don't wanna. All. Mad? Making. Schmidt some breakable, by the way, unbreakable it. It's not just that unbreakable as popular extremely popular with a few. It's also on more lists than any other show in this entire region except for friends the one in the middle. It's still on. I think it just got canceled. Come in the middle, Malcolm in the middle was on a ton of brackets, also, and you guys were anti Malcolm in the middle. I it's completed its run Kimmy Schmidt, but you guys d two most popular songs in this region other than friends or unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt and Malcolm in the middle, and you guys hated on both of them. Well, I I was fifty fifty and then I just decided to go with what it keep a wanted to keep to the elite eight match ups now or save them and do them all together. Let's say that this is going to like. A well over an hour into this. So let's just get to the let's let's send somebody to the final four. And because it's going to be like if we're we have to come back like we have to at least like some loop do on. But people are like no, thanks on part two. Never finish. We'll do one half of the brag. Podcast. Never finished three years later. That's not a bad idea of the wheel for the second half of the bracket next March. All right. So here we go. All right. Mad versus unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. No, it's. Oh, it's a real. Tv peak TV matchup. What do you say the mount Rushmore? I think everyone would really put wire sopranos and breaking bad would you say madman, which at a time definitely had that fourth spot. What do you think has the fourth spot there? So you feel like it doesn't have the fourth spot anymore. I don't think so I think at ended kind of with a thud. I don't think game of thrones. Even though it's so popular is critically acclaimed enough to have their forts lost. Obviously at one point was certainly heading four and definitely doesn't have it. Now. I feel like it's very hard. Maybe maybe someone could like maybe we should write a show and that could be the fourth show. Yeah. I guess the big four. All right. Well, let's let's not get too distracted with that question of the more of peak TV I adverse sopranos which theme song is advancing to the elite eight have you go. I I don't know what I'm doing here. Okay. Madman versus sopranos. I mean for me I voted against mad man in the previous round. So I would say that the sopranos I know that you're baking in. Oh, but look at the cartoon of the guy falling out the window. Oh, wow. There's there's advertisements on the on the windows of the buildings as he's falling. And he works in advertising. See, but I didn't notice that. Likes the drive through north jersey. He's gone on those tours. I had not gone on tours. My wife definitely would. And I would say that. I would take the sopranos over madman. Yeah. I mean, they're both very easy to sing or home like doodoo doodo versus woke up this bone. And it was definitely on my ipod when this. If you had this song on like, a CD, and then you had it in your car. You drive around you feel like you're Tony soprano totally. Yeah. I'm with sopranos by madman. My god. I literally already wrote madman in the bracket. This is. I guess. First of all, nobody had soprano freezer. Frings? Did I don't stop telling what the listeners did this? This is this is a shock to me. I am shocked first of all sopranos with all due respect. It's way too long. I said you skip over which would you consider yourself a mad man right now. I think you made that joke or any good call. He was a madman at the stamp. But now he's actually Mao. All right. Okay. So now, we have friends against game of thrones. Picking that we need a real doing over there. Relisting friend versus game of thrones. I think this is the toughest battle that. We've had so far. I think the friends theme song is just a little more conic than the came throws. Yes. It's such a juggernaut that I would say it really punches you in the mouth right away. You know, it's hard to hear it and not do the clap. And don't wanna see what I'm doing right now. Why wouldn't you doing? I gotta walk off this episode, right? This. Why are you getting that we're putting the one seed throw? But it's only a one-seat because of all the basic people who don't have cable and don't watch game of thrones before you're just saying you don't understand everyone has this. You have to put it through. Our you decide. Are you a follower? You're not a follower, Chester anyways. So you got here's pick. Nobody has friends. Everybody friends on their list. Nobody has friends at the top literalist. Let me say eighteen lists pie about game of thrones. If we make game of thrones beat the friends themes on how many angry tweets, I will get from the friends stands or anything. They fulfilled. This out all six game of thrones advancing here. I'm just saying that but six people ordered sane enough to tweet a Chester and be like, I wanna feel it a bracket before the store nement. Well, the tie what people are gonna be mad enough to tweet. I you and I'm warning you you're gonna have at least six of them. Tweets. Bet this episode trust that sell. Yeah. Okay. All right. Like, I don't have that much data on my phone. For right, right. Friends. Friends will advance over key. You voted for friends? Also. Yes. Like, yes. It's been fair Lear because they're just doesn't pay what's happening. And then gets the favorites to win this whole thing where game of thrones and madman. The whole tournament or the region the tournament. That's. Assume that does have lyrics was not the favorite to win. This whole thing lyrics in this might be. This might be an issue of how you two are seeing it versus how others are seeing it which is not as opening to a television show. This is called the TV's bracket. Not the TV hold open or the TV intro bracket. We higher on the same page. I think we're this is your point. I don't disagree. I think that you're gonna get some angry listeners to deal with every single week. All right. So fresh get sopranos rigid. China's blown. Because I have one seat is in the final four, but keep the seeds or relevant because the seeds are counting ranking right now my friends at once everybody has on their list, but nobody has at the top of the list has to be in the term. It doesn't have to win the tournament. It's any maybe maybe we'll make you. You guys voting for here to get into the final four from the modern era. Still friends friends. I think we said friends already didn't we we didn't we didn't do versus Brown, for instance, proc- about its friends, beating sopranos, honestly, takeout panels. Because that's as an opening to show is in suffer belong and boy, Tony the whole time or really the game is longer. Yeah. The. It through four listening to it. I'm like during. I mean, this is going to be the worst thing I've ever sat on a podcast. I definitely should. Don't know on going excited for the last five years. I've thought about like how tragic it would be if I were to die of cancer. Not I wouldn't get to live with Dr Jen into the late years of my life. Not because I wouldn't get to see like my beloved Vikings win a Super Bowl. But because I mention children sunset. Cast once that I got sick gripe before the lost some mystery illness, and I lost like forty pounds in a very short amount of time. Oh my God. I had I had this thought we're like with Damon and Carlton, tell them thing of lost. If I was dying. Yeah. So dark Benny would not tell me the end of madman with then I do think I'm sad. When I think of how many madman saying that how many game of thrones listeners die tragically without knowing the ended. Really, it does break my heart because it's like a religious experience for me that show what a loser. Anyway. Okay. Let's let's go down to the to the. Is more basic than putting friends in the final four. But whatever. Okay. All right. Having friends at all probably would be more basic. All right. What's the next week? We. Quarter. That's good three. Oh, five time. Checks three. Oh, five AM. Gotta get up for school at seventy. I'm just going to be asleep. My wife's going to do that. All right. Don't pretend you father. Unbreakable marijuana. Where are we going? All right. We're in the early years. You're in the early years of the day. Right. Yes. There early hours early years the eight nine matchup. I don't know a lot of these songs now, here's here's what's interesting about this region. And in the last region, everybody knew all the songs for key with breakable. There's multiple shows in this region that I had never heard of the show. But as soon as I heard the song, I knew the song. Well, which is a testament to how good of a song it is. So again, we're judging songs not shows and other one other wrinkle their two shows in this region that you've never heard of because I see what's one would be my mind is is going to explode because ten of these eleven shows are incredibly famous, okay? Let me just say my second point, which is of these eleven shows five of them were on the air for two seasons or less. They were barely on television. They were not famous. All right here. We go. Eight nine matchup here in the early years regional here, we go number eight. Madman. Should they explain Batman is in this? Okay, blake. What a great sixties name. All right now. This is a tough match-up here in eight nine game. Okay. That man pretty famous song going against. We got some. Back. Okay. All right. Batman versus Scooby doo. Ironically, I think there are episodes of Scooby doo where they meet that man. They're meeting in the eight nine matchup Keiv, really famous songs. I heard like all the batmans from the sixties and seventies used that theme. So I'm because it's I feel like I've heard other earns. That's all version. Yeah. This is the version that was on the original Batman for only two seasons and sixty six sixty seven sixty seven sixty eight and this was only on one season in sixty nine seventy but they still use that same. Scooby theme song. I everybody knows. Everybody knows songs. Never never didn't do. That's song. Sounds to me. Like, it could have been like a b side from the Beatles. White album. Yeah. Very really like. So I said that. I don't know. I'm pretty torn, rob. Why don't you go first here? I'm still deciding. Boy, I think that either of these songs like my three year old or five year old would would know them really famous. Well, that are any of these songs. Good another question. But are both are conic here. I think I'll say Batman. It's fifty one forty nine the I agree. The Scooby doo song annoys mill. But I'd like that. He does put his sort of catchphrase like in the theme song that would really more Allan. That. Batman, I feel like it's more memorable than I it. Scooby dooby doo. Where are you? And we've got some work to do now. After that. I think everybody's pretty. It went on way too long. That's why I'm giving it to you. With one word. That they are able to create a whole song around one word. Yeah. Madman was just one more certify advancing in that bracket. Okay. All right. Batman is moving bed. I had Scooby doo by an inch. But I think it's close closer. That's fine. I think it's a lot of trouble one eight here. Come. All right. Let's go ahead and Batman will advance take on the number one seed in this bracket conic song from the early years. Back tail. Fateful started tropic. This tiny shit. Wasn't mighty sailing? Skipper brave and five passengers set sail for three. Free. Started getting tiny. Ship list. Fearless. Would be. Show her of this charter desert. The skipper. Presser marianne. And this is a really like version of this for the number one seat. I feel like you could've picked the better version of Gilligan's island beam. Saw and the row magic. This show. Oh, don't worry. Like, you're the only seven people on the island. Like, you're going to be in every episode. You're gonna be and then you hear the theme for the first time. And it's like, oh, we're the rest, right? And it's like, hey, spend too much time on the theme song. We gotta get the plot here on island. Songs the whole show. It is true. It's so good in not only does it. Explain the show like you don't even need like previously on us. Ever character the entire series? Like, that's what it is. Yeah. They they incorporate the actors, and like who they are into the theme song, they tell you everything it is. They are they're spoon. Feeding cliff notes for the whole show. It's brilliant. And it's a catchy song. Yeah. I can I say how how like well-known this song is I had never I have never seen the show. I had never seen the theme song until I made this bracket. And yet like six years old. I used to see to myself the words three hour tour from in my head keep what the hell is going on on this boat. I mean, somebody needs to open up an investigation of what is going on with the skipper and Gilligan. They're running like some some boat. It's not like it's not a yacht. It's not a cruise. Why is a millionaire and his wife out on this boat. With a professor, and then some Rando, what is this dinner party? I said, right. It's not nice enough for those three like richer famous people to be on the boat and there's only five people in the boat. Like if you told me, they were fishing. I'd be like, okay that makes total sense. But I don't think they were fishing. Yeah. Tour taking them to like some like, I've no idea did it was always in black and white. I know that this stupid question because I've collar our I think. Switch to color by via eventually. It's called the ballot of Gilligan's. I'll and that's how the song ends, but the show was called Gilligan's island. So I almost think that maybe it was a mistake. They made the theme song. Okay. All right, Gilligan's island vs. Batman key is close. It's close because Batman is really. But I think Gilligan's island. This is a really great theme song at this level. It's gotta go. Gotta go to the next round. Okay. All right, Gilligan's island moving on. All right. Let's talk about the four five matchup. Another. Another good one here in the early years regional here is your number four seed. Get. Thing the Addams family. Yep. Yep. Really are. The ad of. Sweet. Schol. When. The. Akiva, how would an Addams family made the movies in the nineties modern day twenty nineteen Addams fam-? I don't think they'd be as well received. I don't think. So I don't think I like, I'm sure I'm sure development somewhere, nobody's clamoring for that. Adam Sandler comeback, nobody's clamoring for it. Yet, the Addams family like living on your block. How many different like lists? Would they be on in terms of people weird sitcom, or maybe they're you're like, your neighbors, and they're like sort of the side people? They're like the opposite of Wilson or something on home improvement. They're not there. The sun sort of a modern version of this bad point. Keep it like alien family, by the way, also only for two seasons. This original did a lot of episodes back. They would do thirty year. I didn't like it was on Nick at night for a couple of years. I'd never watched it too. Spooky for me. I hate that. Rhyme museum with scream. You so much the snapping heads a lot people. It gets worse. I love this napping and the being and the cast snapping with us. Yeah. So that's good. All right, number four seed is taking on the number five seed here we go. Olympics kit version better. All right mission impossible does anybody even know what happens on mission impossible TV show. I didn't like people forget that. There's a TV. I think that's going to be one of mission impossible's problems. I'm gonna have beating Addams family. But okay, I think it's one of its problems is that the the movie has sort of taken over the TV show in terms of relevance. And that even though the TV show came I I'm not sure the movie's gonna be the, but isn't it crazy that they still make mission impossible movies in the first mission impossible was like nine thousand nine hundred. For a while. But yeah, like, I guess just print money and they got movies series. Like, it's still comes comes out. And. Forgotten rob nobody I couldn't tell you is in the TV show. Yeah. There's no like famous episode of mission impossible. But the the song is the thing that has the state without the song. They would make a mission impossible move. I agree. I agree. Like. One thing here. The video of this one is one that listeners should really try and watch go click that YouTube link on Rob's website. The video is incredible. I think first of all they have all these interesting camera shots which for now. I guess we take for granted. But those angles I think are unique at the time they're making it. They have the fuse running across the entire time. I think it's like really like really unique and really unusual and really noteworthy. I really liked the video. This. I feel you still hear it like if you go to a baseball game. And there's like a meeting on the mound. You might hear that played somewhere. So it's still get some play culturally relevant still the song and the movies are still coming out. I have mission impossible beating the Adams advance it. Okay. Mission. Imposs- then Gilligan's island verse mission impossible or up to. Okay. So you wanna just yada yada? That moved that off to the great. Okay. Gilligan's island is going to be mission impossible Gilligan, go into the great eight. I think I think he's got. Okay. All right. We gotta we gotta pick up some time here along the way. All right. Well, it's bad that you say that because the next song succeed is like a two minute video. All right. We could cut it. All right. We could cut it. Let's hear a flavor of it. Because. I have never heard of this show. Somehow it say six seed as soon as you play the song everyone who's listening to this. We'll know the song, and I do implore listeners. Go watch this video all two minutes of it. It is insane. It's like us. You think? Awesome powers like the opening sort of trying to be wacky. Like, no, awesome powers was trying to just shot for shot remake this. And they couldn't be as crazy as on drugs. So you have. Five hundred views on YouTube the version I said you guys, but it's unbelievable. So good unbelievable. Okay. Here we go. Chester oversold. How exciting this video was. Second Marcus when it gets. That's interesting because we know that song. It's like we've heard in the things, but doesn't do anything. But that's the point. That's how I conduct is to show. We've never heard of the song is so well good. It just sort of his for some weird reason. Is a really really good. So that's why you like it so much. No, I would never encourage listeners to do anything like that. It's legal age. I suspect that the number eleven seed is going to make sure work. It's just the number eleven seed in this region was the last team in this tournament. It should not have been in. The sermon was not in the top forty four. I only put it in here. Because basically I needed an eleven seat in this region and its show, but you're going to see the eleventh. I'd be shocked if you guys pick it because it's not even a song almost certainly going to keep going. This. Okay. That's the theme to love Lucy. All right. Akiva fairly at the time. We didn't even say the name of other show. I don't think. Yes. What do you think? Number six seed, Peter Gunn versus the lucky to be here. I love Lucy Chester put it in as as mercy. Neither one of them excites. Me both them. We're gonna have a big problem in the next round. But one is the theme song to perhaps the most iconic TV. But maybe in spite of the theme song. Theme song. It's just an orchestra playing for ten seconds. It's almost like what would be at the end of sixties TV show, like the Warner Brothers credits or something. Whereas the Peter Gunn song as you said we've heard it's on so many things. Robin voting Pusey next. Rob. Are you definitely? Rob, thanks at this point. Together. Gun credits on your time, Chester. What is what is? Playing rub. Okay. Let's all right. The winner of the seven ten matchup here. Okay. Let's bring you our number seven hold on. They're planning to three seat play the game. Play the. Remember, we said, let's go with thirty two. Thirty two. Oh, he didn't say, no. He said. Yeah. I think I have thirty two when I mentioned it to him, right? If the podcast thirty two. Yes, I have thirty two. And now we have forty eight forty four forty three twenty five eight having. All right here, we go our number three seed in the early years. All right. There you go Flintstones Keiv, you Flintstones guy. Yeah. I like the Flintstones when I was a kid. I didn't like the Flintstones running unopposed here. So. Flintstones? And I love Lucy stone's movie Flintstones, get remade Keefe. I could be a cartoon. I think you should guy. I think they live action Flintstones probably I think I've read that they're making it. I don't remember in which form another live action. Flintstones who would be the new John Goodman? Would it be James's too old now right Horatio Sanz? Maybe Bobby Moore say that'd be a hell of a break for Horatio Sanz. Yeah. Bobby moynihan? Picking fat people from us. Like, yeah. I sort of like who would be that would be that guy. John gabriel. You're thinking like nine hundred ninety s I think that either you do a woman. Fred flintstone. That's fine. Yeah. Flintstone? Yeah. Or with the rock, the rock is the rock fled. Fred flintstone. That's it. Have you have a seven days onset? My I have the Flintstones beating I love Lucy. Rock as Fred Flintstone, the marketing selves, the self. Unbelievable. Okay. Ka meets the pebble. Let's right. All right. That's next week's wheel Ryan from Ryan's tour. View is bam. Bam. I mean, honestly, we just made one hundred million dollars weekend. The rocket rhinestone view, we have the whole country. Throw in like lupita, new ongo as as as like Barney rebels. What's what's Wilma? Yeah. Betty and Wilma Riverdale. Okay. Yeah. Just made one hundred mil Betty women's perspective. That's a good idea. All right. So the Flintstones you agree is in the is in the elite eight. Yes. Moving on vita. I love Lucy move on. Okay. All right one. More little mini Ken here. Okay. All right here is our number seven seed, we're gonna take on the Tennessee number seven. This door with the key of imagination beyond. It is another dimension a dimension of sound. Site spooky dimension of mind that I buy. End substance, and ideas, you've just crossed over and Kim cage baby. Okay. All right twilight zone Keith now. That's too scary for you. Right. I never watched it to scare a lot of people have written in one of the most written in about three episode seven. But we've never added Chester you like twilight zone never seen it. Now. Keep your big into twilight though, right? The sure I'm a big, Jennifer. No, that's not Jennifer Lawrence hunger games Kirsten Stewart. Yes. Yes. And I don't I don't. I don't think that's a song. Like, it's maybe and I kinda opening, but I'm not sure that's just like a noise like doodoo too. So I think it's pretty iconic. All right. It's taking on this number ten seed. Here we go. They ended Griffith's show starring Andy Griffith with Ronnie. Our also starring John. Okay. There you go. Well that. Whistling is legendary first of all like where people not able to read when when this show came out. They can have the names onscreen to announce them. That's like the tonight show or something this. This. Adds something just a whistling. I think the twilight zone beats the Andy Griffith show Chester's this the other show you've never heard of the Griffith show. No, the I never heard of Peter Gunn was the only show I never heard of. Okay. I mean, it's a fun song to whistle but twilight zone, I think that people still have that. Ringtones? I don't know. Figure phone is ringing. There's something that's very. You hear the twilight zone theme. Okay. All right. Try its own moving on and sitting on the two seed here. Let's hear our this to seed is I'd heard of the show, but I've never seen it in any incarnation. I can't tell anything about it. But the song even though I didn't know where it was from. And this is like Peter Gunn. It's known. It's a great song. Yeah. Okay. Here we go. The worst end bid opening I've ever seen. John Krasinski edited it. Yeah. Almost got a had a seizure. There was just like in my eyes a lot. They spend a lot of time on planes for some reason like in the. That is still with the white. This is. Fiftieth state is that why a why five hour we like breaking news here? I think that the co. Yeah. But I think it's a double entendre except double entendre only for dirty stuff. Never enjoyed the the substances that help you appreciate Peter gods. Five. Could with five theme songs. Right and Alaska's forty-nine we should make an Alaska for nine show. That could be that could be. Four nine we have any police officers. We know do we have anybody. Law enforcement listens question. We never had. We we have on Seinfeld. We had a lot of like we sort of had an expert for every single job. Yeah. But we don't have we have we have some jobs here. But we've never had a cop. Really? We we need to show. You've never grew up hearing the radio play and you hear that's a four nine four nine. I don't know. I didn't grow up with you know, with the police. My dad didn't have DR. Like here stuff in in the house or no. We looked at Long Island. My father. In like, queens, and Brooklyn. So he was sitting in at home with his uniform on like, all right? We got a four nine are over here. We get you there. Podcast gone over three hours. The seventh inning Mets game. You guys need me right now. Okay. All right here, we go Hawaii five overses the twilight zone kief, it's tough. This is tough because the toilets owns much more famous. The Hawaii five o song is a good song. I'm gonna go with the twilight zone here though. Ho boy. It's TV themes that Hawaii five is the better theme song on. I like I like songs with words. I'm partial to them on the strength of the talking. On the strength of the theme. Hawaii five an entire other Hawaii five o franchise was launched with nothing. Other than a theme song. Do they use the same theme? Now, they do a better version of it like a modern day that show still on. Yes. Yes. Yes. And I can tell you that because in my chart with all the categories one of only two TV shows in this entire bracket that it's considered officially the exact same show with the break. One of them is Hawaii five o one of them's in originally got to Hawaii. He really actioning. Continue to show from nineteen sixty eight tonight eighty and two thousand playing gin is the is the new guy I hate on. It's the same. Morton Stevens song, the the editing of the video is a little better. Yeah. That modern day Hawaii five, oh, it's the same song. According to my research. I'm sure they've recorded it. But it's the exact same song. It's the it's the same melody, but it's like modern shorter. Also, there's no way it's forty seven seconds. They still say Bookham dano. Okay. All right. So with here, they go keep can we any short circuit movies in the crappy movies ever got to know what that is. But put them in. Yeah. Okay. All right. Johnny five. The robot says you're going to book me dano. So you would go Hawaii five o. Chester's twilight zone is icon IQ, but I feel like that it's like Connick because of the song is the song is super iconic. But that the actual work of the show. Yes. To the test of time, whereas wife, I've always just a song. Yeah. That's fair. That's fair. The noise from twilight zone is one of the most famous things in this bracket. But it's not a song per se as much as. Theme bracket. Yeah. So chester. What do you think? I'm glad I did not have to erase for the second time in this episode as soon as we ought to this matchup. I immediately put Hawaii five, oh, this is the biggest blow it in this entire tournament. Hawaii five o is an incredible song. Again. I know nothing about the show. But the song is conic. It's an amazing song and the twilight zone is not a song. It's just like I talking with a weird eyeball Hawaii five easily easily pass twilight time, but then I have the Flintstones beating Hawaii five. Oh, rob. Do you agree? Okay. Sure. The Flintstones are in the final four another not, no. Have to face Gilligan's island. Okay. Oh, sorry there in the date. So this tough. A lot just happened a lot just hold on. Let's take a moment to poor went out for Hawaii five o who lost the Flintstones in an upset. But we have to three seamen stones the three beat the two seat. It's big of guys shouldn't focus too much on seating Cassini is not about the of the rakings. It's the number of times they appeared. Okay. But then close wasn't it. If you want me to break down the entire we don't have time for that. He'll say that you went to you had one listener who was sent in list this point. Number one. But he had Hawaii five o number seven. So we had them both on his list. Keep it how long ago did. We lose Taylor Cotter. I feel like she's like a big TV story. And but she also values for time insanity awhile ago. Broke her phone on Kimmy Schmidt losing. Yeah. I desperately want. And now, but I also don't think we can do this to the listeners for two two weeks. Okay. We need the power forward and finish this bracket. Tonight. I feel what time is it locally. It's three thirty eight. We got plenty of time till the. Okay. All right. Let's keep going still verse Gilligan who is going to do. The toughest decision. We've had to make so far. Yeah. These both could win the tournament in my opinion. There's such chronic songs. Flintstones meet the similar they explained the show really well with the catchy saw reminders age family. What's fun? Whereas the Gilligan's island opening is a mess. It's been black and white maybe they change future season. Okay. You don't know what's happening with the boat. The boat is is really shoddy law spent like fourteen million dollars like fly a plane Hawaii zone. Spend fifty bucks on that boat. I locked in a locked in. At the same time. What we're what we're going with? Yes. Okay. All right. Three two one two three three two one. Okay. Three to one Gilligan stones. Here's Gilligan because I. I feel like that the definition of a TV theme song. If you looked it up. You would say, well, it can be like we're tells the whole story of the show likey Gilligan's island, or I think it's sort of like one of the definitions of TV theme song is the Gilligan's island theme. It's like one of the main examples of a well executed TV theme song while the athletes. Stone song is great and I contact and catchy. I don't think that the Flintstones opening credits theme song is really a reference to demonstrate anything. Yeah. I hear what you're saying. Just the black and white threw me off on the on the video. We watched to me they're the two best we've seen so far. But let's see what Chester wants to do with breaking this time for the final four in a match. Clearly. Wow. Okay. Sorry flintstones. Okay. I stood up for you guys. All right. So we'll we'll hold the thought on friends verse Gilligan's island as we hit the halfway point of this. All right. Can we can I make can we say we're just spinning the wheel? Can I maybe? Heave is is calling it right now. We will go right into the wheelspin chest. Yeah. Well, if we're keeping them out. If we're if we're under four hours, we'll have one suggestion. Okay. Fine. Okay. All right. Let's get to the golden era bracket. All right, golden era. Brechet the golden age. Here we go. All right. We're starting here with an eight nine battle here on the right side of the bracket. Here we go. You ready for the eight seed Keefe. All right here. We go. Bringing girls all of them. Sorry. Family. Alice. All right. The Brady bunch number eight Keiv we've talked a little bit about the Brady bunch when we were trying to add them to the fishbowl. I've wanted to add season three episode of the Brady of the fishbowl. You were vehemently against it. Didn't it lose it lost the vote? Right. It might have. I don't remember. We gotta go back and take a look at that. Well, we'll check the spreadsheet after the fact that that is the number eight seed, and again, another another song that was up in the vote of who should get kicked out of the fishbowl. Here's our number nine seat. And can I say the number nine seed is the toughest one to play on this podcast. Because literally every single intro is totally different different words different visuals. So this is just a random when I selected. Okay. Rando number nine seed. Joe? Our special guest Carver's, Candace Bergen. What we're supposed to watch. We're gonna have a different Candice Bergen on the podcast. Hey question. What has thousand can't work? Really makes me. Kim. The famous Canadian politician. Infamous. Okay. Brady statler and Waldorf and that verses Muppets Keiv. Yeah. I think the Brady bunch the Brady bunch is a lot like what we loved about Gilligan's island Flintstones where really explains the whole show in the opening themes on a Brady question because I haven't seen the show in a while. Okay. Are the are the dad and the mom a widow and widower or is everybody. Everybody. I think both of the former spouses are dead, and they don't talk about them. Because if you're divorced you couldn't be seen this pathetic. I think in that era. Funnier funny that was the show airing like, seventy two. Yeah. Very early. It was like, okay, but divorce was like, no, no, no, no, no. The ex husband wife have to be it's still death. Do you part? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. Rob, of course, as a big proponent of till death. Do you part famously not interested in the afterlife romance? Okay. Look the afterlife. There's a lot of things that go on there. Okay. All right. If you're lucky to be all, right. I got a bunch crushing them up at show here who are you voting for here. I'm gonna it's the Brady bunch. I feel like the Nellie is the song icon. But also the visual is iconic one of the better better. Like opening interstitial surprise to me. I thought because you guys are comedy guys. The muppet show is funny and original every single time one of our listeners headed one of one of our listeners had winning the entire thing. I think the Brady bunch is is very overrated. But I think it doesn't matter because I think it's. I've never seen one second of them up at show. So I just. Fifty six. Okay. I'm pro-. I'm not anti all Muppets. But maybe those. But we didn't have stand up. It's. You're all right. Who was the Brady bunch of Muppets out? Brady's are moving on. And so the Brady's are going to play the number one seed in the golden age bracket. Are you ready for this Brady taking on another family? Here we go. That true form in the. Upper east side of the bracket. Here we go. Well done. Oh, Manhattan real estate show. Impressive sort of driveway. This building. Mad? Fifty floor of this building. So. That's a really my sister lives in that building. It's building that many of Cuba's and is live in that building. It's known as the jeffersons building actually because of this. No of the jeffersons. But I don't really know the plot. That. Up to the. What's going on his seat seems as though that they've had some sort of like did I think he had like a dry cleaning business something having to do dry cleaning. Did he sell his business? And he that's why that they have a sudden windfall of money like it's not like they're like lottery winners where. No, I think they're self made poor African Americans who grew up in in a different neighborhood in Manhattan, and you can see it's very poignant how how the wife is crying in the cab. I think right. But they didn't sudden like how did they have this major status the show? I don't think explain the time. The soul makes it sound like that they're like rags to riches but in practice -ality. It sounds like that the Sherman Helmsley character like grew his business up from nothing, and I guess maybe did he adds to riches, but dry cleaning business. It was literally. Right. So I think that they would have they would live someplace that was nice already to go from it. Just seems weird that they are that the song makes it seem like they've gone from poverty to you can't just break a lease just because you start making more money like, you know. Economics. Really they make it seem like they went from like they must have been doing. Well, if they had a business that they just sell like that. Now, there's another song in this bracket that the video was a shot for shot remake of the one. We just saw. And so, you know, again, if you're listening to this click the link watch the jeffersons video because there's another one which is the exact same concept. And so I I want all right. All right with the jeffersons and the Brady's cave. Yeah. The I think that this song is is. So I don't know. I think it's a better song the song. They play the song at weddings. Not like as a joke. Like the curb your enthusiasm theme song. Jefferson's embarrassed. Your sister in your family? Yeah. The jeffersons the Brady bunch can you pick? I hear this is tough. This is tough. The guest of the of the Brady bunch would be a one in the jeffersons would be more of an eight nine. I I would I would go Bragan TV shows though, over the jeffersons I feel like that the jeffersons song than a why why they stayed in the bad apartment for so long. I just don't understand. I think it's I think it's the neighborhood. They moved up to better houses within that neighborhood. And now they're finally moving to a different from queens, Manhattan. I think that's what the up is also in queens, Manhattan. If that explains it. Yeah. I would like to know why did they need to be in Manhattan? Why they want to be there? Well, that's all the big shots in Manhattan kick chest, the dry cleaning business that. He did. He sell it. Or is it according to a Kapiti showing in every every franchised? Yes. Okay. So I guess we'll find out the answers to the economics of that. It's a spin off of all in the family. Yeah, I'm gonna have the Brady bunch. So I think it's just a little more famous. About the characters. I mean, if we're looking at the visuals also I feel like that the song is icon IQ for for both. But I feel like the visuals of the Brady bunch. I think is also iconic. Yeah. Very original it holds up today. The jeffersons you're sort of following a moving truck. So explain stuff but also by season five it's like, all right? But they moved up five years ago. I don't you know what I mean? Right. I feel like are they still, but maybe the theme song is different. Or at least the opening credits are different art. I'm even more upset that I was before the jeffersons was my winner of this entire bracket. It was Dan Birkin's said, obviously, the jeffersons wins. It's region. It's the easiest region. Kevin Donnelly said that although he would pick a happy days to pull it upset over the jeffersons. Of course, Keven rob Jephson's is going to be their candidate to win it this. We're going to get the input after the show blows my mind. This again, you guys are it doesn't matter the show you guys like will further really poker the show. So we're going to put it a hit a moment. A moment. Like this said, nobody said that. 'cause it's an iconic TV theme song Jefferson. Listen to the Seinfeld podcast knows that that kiva have no issue being critical of friends. Yeah. I know you're afraid of their stands though, you said. Stance. The jeffersons which is the best. Tv theme song, obviously knocked out right away by my two ops on this. We the ops the Brady bunch of the show your ops. No, you're the. Well, where the ops of you. Yeah. That's that's not cannon will from America. Don't put a Rachel and muppet show. Did nothing wrong. I love them up at the Brady bunch. But there's no way to compare to the jeffersons. It's an amazing song it brings tears to your own. Tv theme song where you have a real vote and not just. We were gonna do this that podcast. And then I got trumped by you pick over me fix sense to be fair versus five. A five. Okay. Who's gonna who's gonna battle the Brady who's the number four seed? Go to get this win despite being. I love the show. Is. This is the theme to the Mary Tyler Moore show. Why would a kiva picking against us be some sort of a vendetta against you, Chester? I know the answer from because. In minnesota. That's that kiva would geographic for substrates. And they literally flash Minneapolis and Saint Paul on the screen. Are you a big fan of the Mary Tyler Moore show, given the pathetic performance in my sports teams? It's probably the high point in Minnesota history. Okay. Went downtown Minneapolis of Mary Tyler Moore, throwing her hat up in the. I I was not a Mary Tyler Moore watcher believe it or not before my time. And before my time also, but it was on naked night. I loved it. I always watched even they even like we used to put on Rhoda and Phyllis. And I watch those shows I've seen all of those episodes gets divorced. So I guess pass Brady bunch TV didn't TV shows. Connick show Mary Tyler Moore. The only theme song or or at least opening credits where the end is the most part like she throws her hat up in the air. When it freezes first, thirty seconds. Should we cut or shortened? It's. Yeah. You really I think they do some of the upsets, but you really just want hear the chorus love is all around and then her throw up the hat. I feel about the sopranos. I keep on wanting to jump to in got yourself a gun, and it takes a long time. There people really should watch the show it actually holds up. It's really good. Especially like why choose like. Mt. M she's there guys podcast, but an episode no American show. Did we did? We don't episode podcast. Hundred favourite TV shows. So it just came up. It was it was the one chuckles the clown or something. Yeah, you're right. We did. We did watch episode Chester. And I decided last summer we're going to rank the twenty five best TV episodes in history. And after one we said, it's too much worse. My stuff, okay. More more. She also more of an anthem. Also. Then just a TV theme song. I feel like that. A lot of women can like there's a message in the song. Also, a weird song to have playing on your proverbial ipod though. But I've heard like a like a faster version of it. Yeah. Definitely version remains okay? Taking on the five seed here from the golden age. Here we go. That we got it with us through theme song. Yeah. Can you tell us how to get sesame second verse? Okay. Oh question. Rob. Yes. Would your children would your son's recognized that song because I don't think my they they can't they're not interested in Sesame Street at all right? They could. I punish them and say I'm gonna put on Sesame Street. History. Show. Did they do not like they're not interested could not care less on Sesame Street? So I don't know if like my stunt younger sounds like I don't know if they know what it is even obviously know Elmo Elmo sort of transcends the show. But yeah. It's kind of an earworm. It's like it's kind of annoying song. But I think it has to be Mary Tyler Moore. Oh, really? I would say I was gonna advanced Mary Tyler Moore over Sesame Street. Yeah. Well, we we aren't anti Minneapolis podcast. All right. Let's kick it. All right. So this is the second time that I had comments about the video. And then you cut it short, the Sesame Street view that we've included the link to is the very first episode of the very first, and what's incredible to me is the fact that this this is from nineteen sixty nine and obviously it's still going strong fifty sixty years later, it's still going going anyways. But but that's from nineteen sixty nine and video is just a gritty it's diverse. It's like really impressive thing that are no muppet Americans fun. Okay. Thanks all kids there. Nope. It's in the show. Right. Yeah. It shows a bunch of kids from New York City circa nineteen sixty-nine what had actually not sort of what you normally see on TV. And yet most people watching it or many people watching are sort of middle of America middle class white families. And so I think it's very impressive that that's that's how the opened to show and they managed to appeal to fifty years. So I think that video is quite impressive. But I'm gonna vote for Mary Tyler Moore because Minnesota to win. And it doesn't matter because it's supposed to lose the jeffersons. But instead it's Mary Tyler Moore against the Brady. So how do you guys vote on that one Brady bunch demolishes it? Okay. Let's Vance the Brady bunch go into the great eight the grade eight then they were a great take Alice out of the equation. That's true. Take Alice been raised. All right. We move down to five eighths through this podcast. All right, or at least up to the final four. Okay. All right. Let's go to the bottom half of the golden age bracket. Time to listen to our number six seed, which is taking these six eleven match ups can be wacky. Okay. These are like the least popular shows. Let's let's go lightning rounds for here we go. Here's our number succeed. Tan. RIP penny Marshall Chester is it true. That you picked against this song because it set in Milwaukee hated rival of Minnesota. It's a very sticky opening it's got a lot of really a baby version of Mary Tyler Moore theme song. There's dumber. Yeah. Schlemiel is initial Moslem. I feel like it's very explained the schlemiel mazal. So the expression that explains a schlemiel is somebody who spills his soup and Shlomo is the person who get spill fill. I think from tax thing in taxi every meal, the seven cups and the shemozzle. Yeah. But then it's like, there's no reason for those words to appear in the song Haas Feffer corporated is completely made up gibberish now. To me why they have the doors that crash into each other. Who did that? But then second I feel like that for me personally. This is more I conduct because of Wayne's world. Okay. And there's the scene in Wayne's world when Wayne and Garth reenact the entire Laverne Shirley opening. You think the youth even know about Wayne's world? Thirdly. About let's play the next song. So Milwaukee is going up against another midwest town. Okay. Here we go. Let's let's hear central here are eleven seed. WKNO? The guy from Forrest Gump. French Stewart tonic. Let me just throw a flag here. This is not the theme to w in Cincinnati with with former Seinfeld podcast star Tony contain this is a remake. This is the theme to the new W K R P Cincinnati. The one because Chester really messed up job by me. And it's interesting because my notes on this were that there's a version with radio station switching which I thought was much more unique and interesting. This is the one that remake for tawny contain. Maybe. All right here, we go here is the original on w was only on TV for I nine nineteen seventy eight to nine hundred eighty two. Okay. Well, they brought it back in the eighties with that theme song. But that is not the let's let's give it. It's fair shake here is the W P in Cincinnati. Original theme song. Okay. We heard a little Skype noise from Chester's. So it takes place at a radio station laughs is the main sell Cincinnati in the song. It's like well. I got tired of packing on packing. I'm just gonna stay here in market number like twenty one right settled this Lonnie Anderson is like the main woman here. Doctor Johnny fever now a key. But what do you think about a third remake of W P in Cincinnati? But it takes place at like hide cast network. Yup. I like it well, Alex sink already failed. But they'll put that dealt with more like the home life of doing a podcast studio. Right. Sort of maybe taking place at the Gimblett studio as opposed to. Well, why Gimblett and why not all right? Well, I don't know. I feel like that. That's more of a family sitcom again, it didn't work like the Alex. So it's a studio. So what if like the coal kicks the studio out of the house? There's too many. Yeah. Whacky podcast could be sort of like the sopranos where it sort of like the like the tents homelife. And then like the cut-throat podcast business. The cut-throat podcast business. Somebody starts like. Yeah. Rival podcast business. But then there's the mob gets we have. And there's a lot of stuff. Okay. All right. All right. So what was it Laverne, Shirley versus Cincinnati. Laverne Shirley song should be shot into the sun. I have w. I thought that for penny Marshall alone you advance it. What do I care about penny? Marshall. Oh. Nobody's listening three hours. No, I I can assure you. I don't know. I mean, I understand she she is with us. It sounds, but I also rob. So you're voted. Liver in surely again, I think is an anthem people get excited to it. Like, nobody's putting on like baby. Did you ever wonder? Manning tonight. Nobody's like pumped up unless that much like the local Cincinnati faithful. Nobody's about who has that song. And it's number one on this playlist. All right. So is this coming to me? Yeah. Yeah. Now, I feel for the purpose of fan service. I should vote for w Cincinnati because this one had the most requests from your listeners. No idea. Why I don't understand? Why it's so of fans in Cincinnati. Yeah. People really love this. I don't get it to me Laverne. And Shirley, I I don't know what the lyrics. It doesn't make any sense. It's thirty seconds too long. But I'm gonna vote for Vernon Shirley. Hey, it's in trouble because it's got a it's got an iconic opponent. Okay. In the three seed. All right. So w Cincinnati Chester has Google map for you. But no thing for the eleven seats. All right, so much for this was the one that we were gonna yada yada. All right. All right. So w k RPM Cincinnati face here. Okay. It's hopefully, we have the rights, Shirley. Shirley play. The winter time check heave four twelve. Dude. Like, you're on W P Cincinnati get the time in the weather. I don't know whether it's it's kinda hot. Come on. A couple of probably chilly. Four twelve am. No, it's boiling in this midnight for me also. Okay. All right, number six Laverne. Shirley is taking on the number three song here in our TV theme song, Barack it. Here we go. Here's number three seed in the golden age. Real pick me. This shows going for with this. All right. Mash you mash guy. No. I know. It's like the finale was the most watched episode in TV history. But I don't know anything about it. Really? I know it's like a war that never ends that they like stretch out this war in Korea. But it's a comedy three eleven. It's funny. Sometimes it's serious. And sometimes they play the song and people fast forward. It's pretty but depressing. Something more depressing for this comedy. The name of the song. Is suicide is painless. Yes. Yes. Okay. All right. So mash theme song versus Vernon Shirley. Now. You wanted to shoot Laverne and Shirley into the side. Yeah. These are the two were songs we've heard so far somehow there in around the thirty two match. I'll have mash just because it's probably a better show than Laverne. Shirley. Mashes conic theme song people know the name of it. Is it the greatest TV theme song of all time? Boy, kind of sad. I think that's why it says sticks with you. I will I'll give the nod to Laverne Shirley again. Okay. Well, all right. So I will to me, and I'm surprised kiva is so anti mashed because to me mashes sorta the Thika the Israeli anthem of theme songs in that most most national anthems are sort of like military marches. You get pumped up yet excited. The Israeli national anthem is a very pretty song. But it's very depressing. It's sort of emotionally, but it sort of makes you a little bit sad. I think you tear up and to me. That's what this mash song is also want to tear off before a freaking a TV show. That's a comedy. I'm not saying I want to it makes no sense to me. It's depressing. It's very seventy cult suicide is painless it's comedy. I don't understand what's going on. But it's more I Kana than Laverne. And Shirley, I don't think either one of these advancing very far. Good question. Yes. How come? We never did a national anthem ranking? Thirty two flag ranking we wheel it's on the way. We do it we've discussed it. The problem that we can do it. I think started making and then I got bogged down after the two hundred doing. Like, it's very time. All right, Chester to thank you for putting a mash through. We have a caller on the line. Alan Alda is calling in to. Thank you. Gesture this Alan Alda, so happy that you put my show mesh through to the next round. I appreciate it. Okay. Thank you, Allan all the. The big he's gotta be. He's gotta be pushing like eighty five or ninety right? Yeah. You don't watch the Grammys because the Emmys excuse me because he just got a lifetime achievement award. Akiva this year kiva, why don't you watch the EMMY for my lifetime achievement award speech. I thought thank you. We have a tweet a late breaking in from Lawson Campbell. He says when can he expect the TV theme song bracket the draft probably another two hours to record and four days to edit? So tell them Thursday. Okay. Okay. All right. All right. Mash awaits the winner of who comes out of the seven ten versus to battle royale. Okay. All right. All right here, we go here you already for the seven seed cave. Let's do it. All right here, we go. Here's our number seven seed and the golden age. Okay. Sanford and son just nothing going on with that song. Just the athletes euro. On the video though. I wasn't. I didn't even turn on the video. Okay. Because the song I loved the song. It's a great beat. But the video is guy driving pickup truck. It's so I forgot I forgot video on for that one. Yeah. People. Love the song. Yeah. It's a great song. All right, then taking on another seventies sitcom classic. Here's our ten seed. Here we go. Glenn songs. Fish. White. Last, Sal, gray. Watch for. H E podcast at one point. I never seen the show that was happe-. Okay. All right, all in the family. Versa today. Rerecord every episode. It's. I mean, maybe like different seasons. They do. I feel like that. This is the biggest slam dunk. And I don't know why nobody is done this. But if not like an all in the family remake, some version of the all in the family where it was very a lot of topical where Archie bunker is famously seventies conservative, and then has like a hippie daughter and son-in-law like, I don't know why that they don't this. This idea has not been brought back in some form. Maybe it is. Maybe they just flip the script. Maybe it's like black ish. Now is this is Connor's kind of like. To a degree. I think that that's what they were going what they were going for. But maybe, but then they're real life politics of Roseanne. I think it's even trickier for a network show to touch politics now show that had like an Archie bunker. Trump would be supporting favorite like would be tweeting about it and light beam possible. Void. On the new all in the family like Archie bunker would be like aided. Did you hear Bill this green new Geel that they're trying to? Stay off social media. That's pretty good. Yeah. That would be that would be funny. I've grading voice on the actual song. Yeah. Iconex show all in the family, but the song is a chore to listen to its to listen to but Sanford and son did nothing for me pigging, Sanford and son, I'm picking Sanford and son does this is so relevant because both these songs are losing right away Chester who do you have winning? I mean, Sanford and son to me is easily going to the elite eight it's an amazing song. So watch it gets smash right now. It's the it's the intro song to my favorite sports talk radio show. So I walked down at your other sister's wedding too. What what sports radio show? It's in Minneapolis. Okay. So all right. They don't do the Mary Tyler Moore opening. No, it's Paul Allen. It's the Paul Allen show on KFI. You're making making people are mad about penny Marshall. Yeah. Too soon. Okay. What do you Paul Allen's alive, and well, not not the owner of the players? Oh, sure. We know that the Minnesota sports radio the radio show was so I told her I wasn't making a joke about a all right? All right. Awaiting the number two seed who's gonna lose to. Grace sky. Can hold me. It can't be wrong. Mentioned Saturday of the song. Stained. Scott. Gary Marshall Norman Lear in this bracket. I miss Tom Bosley. Sell me, you agree. Happy days is is advancing. Take over Sanford about the show at all. Harry time period where the show takes place. They're happy days. Now are there any sports talk radio shows that use this as their opening theme song? Well, no because this is so accurate to sports when you have Ron Howard playing the star athlete. Harry Winkler like the coolest dude this four hadn't really literally invented the jump the shark expression. Obviously, I don't understand the appeal of this show, San Jose sports, talk radio. All right. Happy days advances over Sanford and son and mash literally happy days versus unhappy days. Yes. Yes. Mashes mash in my opinion. Yeah. Let's advance it. All right. And what is face to face in a shocking upset over the jeffersons Mary Tyler Moore show. Right. Rob. We haven't made any wrong decisions yet. I just want to let you know, the only wrong decision. We made was giving this podcast seven spots on the wheel. Three four hundred through. Okay. I think we're both going to go with the same one here. Happy days is very catchy. But I just think the Brady bunch intro is so much more conic and bring so much more to the table. Than than anything. Happy days intro does. Okay. I'm good with that. Brady bunch guy. But I have kind of not a great show other. The Brady's over happy days. All right. So welcome to the final four the brain. We are an anti Brady. It's a different Brady. Yes. Yes. Okay. Now pleased the here grunk retire. Hope Tom Brady joins them in retirement this week. Yes. Hopefully, hopefully possible that Jefferson's Brady bunch muppet show that little region that little quadrant was loaded. Yeah. Because multiple people had the jeffersons going. Why going all the way most people had to go into the final four, but the muppet show a lot of people had not only beating the Brady bunch but upsetting the jeffersons and going very far, and you said the Brady bunch surviving both of them and made bracket would like Laverne, Shirley, and w p and Sanford and son was the weakest of any of the region. I the bottom of the golden age is not great. I think a big part of it is people know all the words to the song like people do the whole theme song. Everybody knows the words for like the mock arena. And nobody knows that words to the Michael who let the dogs out dogs out of most lyrics today. Today. But catchy end knowing the lyrics. I think our dogs like who who let the dogs out who a very solid materials. But then after that, it's like something something the party with shakings. Nobody knows call back to the early years all of us know, one hundred percent of the words of the Batman theme. And yet lost. Yeah. But that's. Gilligan's island is probably the best example. You know, all the words yet because you know, the whole song and explains who's in the show except for other people to we're looking catchy. It's like conic. You know, all the words. Yeah. All right. Let's we got one more whole region to do. All right here, we go three. This is the nine hundred eighty nine at home, which nobody is if you're listening to this four twenty-seven eighties nineties. This is the aero when era the great. Childhood childhood era. Okay. And the Chester's child. Rob where my buddy, Mr. Chester whose name. I would remember if it wasn't four twenty eight. Chester's dead. Tv in the closets. Does not remember any of this. Okay. All right here, we go. Here's our number eight seed taking on the number nine seed. All right HERE IS NUMBER eight. Watch the video. Yeah. Okay. I got a problem with that video the shot the basketball show when they pick up Gary Marshall, Jerry takes Jerry Coleman. Gary Coleman that shot does not go in on a little Taek-Soo that balls I know from picking up my son in like best hoop the way that's going five feet in the fact that that shot goes in Bluto, Chris. Yeah. I remember the plot. Here of different strokes did did Arnold and Willis's parents die. If I did his mom words is there? My head worked for mister miss never seen the show. I guess is both his parents died. They each had different strengths. That's not what happened. What happened? This show aired from seventy eight to eighty six but more seventies and eighties. Selfish, different stroke. It's like a shopper shot remaking the way it shows, a car writes in New York City pans up online, there's a circular driveway pans up as the, you know, the African Americans come out of the car and look up at the big building on the east side. I don't think it holds up the different strokes. I'm not ready to the show was third episode like a famous special episode about pedophilia or something like that. Yeah. Bicycle here. Here's here's the different reference that one different strokes remake affluent African American family. They adopt to white trash kids. Bring them to their very nice place. I think that that's that's the different strokes remake. Number dying police like that. No. I do number was playing. Okay. All right. Here we go. All right. Here's number nine. Take on different strokes. Florida. Keep this. How you do this? Software entrepreneur from Oden, Maryland. Returning champion truckload bartender from Chicago, Illinois, willing to twitting total thirteen nine go willy homes. I'm rooting for Willie. The one has days when make it three days in a row wind's been. Okay. All right. That's not. That's absurd. It's absurd to have jeopardy on this list. Most of the time we were listening travek or what the announcer guy's name hawk about the show. That is the whole thing guy. Johnny over the. Lost different strokes wins. Throw played interest went up against the show that was. All right, different strokes is moving on. Although different also different strokes theme saw different strokes is famous for what you talking about Willis frames for catchphrase that I've ever been humming. The different strokes theme song. Jeopardy theme song has made multiple appearances on this here. Very podcast. Yeah. But I think it's the game show thing, I think it's a different category different. It'd been coming different regional if any people submitted a lot of news theme song sports theme song price, right themes. It just didn't make the final forty four. Sportscenter. It should be on there. Whichever wins is going to be blasted in the Smith, Jerry. Jerry, go. Here we go. All right. The number one seed in the Chester's childhood bracket. Here we go. World today takes everything. Taking the brakes mole your worries show would help. Too. Good. You wanna be? Troubles. You wanna be? People. Okay. Cheers show which brought some humor to series of adults dealing with battling alcoholism stay drinking every day of the year. Okay. You know, my hottest take from takeoff. Nobody should drink alcohol. Yeah. I mean, you were on that. Nobody should. I mean that people do I'm not a big drinker people do their drinking just ruins people's lives. Like, there's no. In solution to but. You could argue more more bad that more bad than good can come from the trinkets. And Saito people also have a lot of a lot of fun. Also who drink responsibly. You know, people have fun. We're not fun people. Why would we now Akiva, the opening credits to cheers like the Agra fee of cheers is people that are like consuming alcoholic beverages in? Well, what if the time period like the eighteen ninety s? Yeah. I don't know why they go with this like weird set-piece. I was gonna say nineteen thirty was the best inch ears. Is it supposed to be the same Barnes? And I don't think so have you been there the real arch ears a bunch of them? But the original one in downtown Boston. I think it's supposed to look like a bar from the nineteen thirties that became popular in the nineteen eighties. Okay. All right. And I actually really like how the opening credits shows a bunch of sort of. From the thirties who are vague resemblances to the actors whose names appear onscreen is like they show George went. They sort of chubby guy. And then they show like I actually really like how they do that. I think it's kind of smart and witty. Okay. All right. Akiva cheer. Yeah. People when we were wrapping up Seinfeld. People are like, hey, Robin. Akiva, do cheers. Then we looked and it had like seven thousand four hundred twenty two. Cheers. Cheers. Why isn't she on the wheel? Official beloved to beloved seasons. Episode seven cheers. I don't think we would like it like we wouldn't bash. Cheers. Cheers. Right. But would it be fun podcast? Oh, probably not. Mmc is yours years different strokes. Yes, I'm not saying I'm not saying that it should lose different strokes. But cheers like mash is that a little bit too slow and sad for comedy. It's just it's just a little. Positive. Everybody knows your name. We have other you guys ever gone to a bar by yourself and drank. Maybe like when I was in college, Chester. Yeah. But not I never I never walked everybody knew my name. In the world today takes everything you've got take from all layers. Health alive? The lyrics are positive, but I don't know the music to me is a little bit of a Downer. All right. Number four. I don't know what it is. I've heard. Excited for is. You will. Well, you'll like the fifteen second version that's from a more famous TV show. Okay. Here we go four five battle coming up in the Chester's childhood bracket. Here's four the graphics are Mesa key watch this one. Better. The second version. How how are those graphics? Did they spend a hundred dollars on the special Seinfeld came at a nowhere? And it was like astonishing, right, George the tornadoes. This is a popular song the show was I think that the TV show was nearly as popular as the song. I think that the show is from nineteen eighty one. But the theme song became a popular hit during the run of grits American here. The theme song is called believe it or not it entered the top forty of the billboard hot one hundred on June thirteenth nineteen Eighty-one of venture peaking at number two for the weeks ending August fifteenth to the twenty second of nineteen eighty one capital the top spot by Diana Ross and Lionel Richie with anlysts love. But we in agreement that the fifteen second George version is much better much better. Yeah. It's an inferior version of a song. The only. Anybody ever knows that song twenty nineteen is because of the George Costanza answering machine a great joke because it was popular. And it was a random thing pick. They wouldn't have picked Laverne and Shirley. On your number five. Okay. All right number four is taking on. Number five here. Okay. All right, really gonna come down Rob's to how much we are weighing the whole intro. The song the song itself is not going to beat the elite songs, but the intro package if it's half if it's half the deal is going to beat virtually everything on the board. Yeah. I mean, I don't think that we should spend too much time on it because it's going to go up against cheers in the next round. And I'm going to say the Simpsons beats great American hero. I'm going to say that for the record. Also, I'm gonna vote for the greatest American hero. That's the song. What loses the cheers, Chester. I have the Simpsons beating cheers. Speeding cheers. Rob. Okay. Simpson's. I would argue the most iconic opening credits of any show ever yet. But it's a theme song bracket. Into the podcast. They were just completely bored out of there. I was part of the whole podcast than you know, the first three questions when you're watching this show on TV fast forwarding or not and that went on. That's not. What Bart Simpson wrote on the chalkboard. And then you and then you look at your phone and then see what they do on the couch. Crazy crazy apparent what's pardon second grade. Third grade, they let them frigging skateboard home. Well, that's two amazing jokes in less than a minute. How many other TV shows come up with two different amazing jokes every week in their interim? Then the shows greatness, not part of the theme songs, and let's I mean, how many times does Bart right something amazing on the chalkboard. But when you're watching if you're going to cheers marathon, you're you're skipping. The crowd. Listen to cheer. If you're watching. Cheers marathon, you love the cheers theme song every time every time. I agree. Who's binging? Cheers in skipping. The saw. That's crazy. I just binged I skip the show, and I just binged two hundred twenty version theme. All right. Never seen drinking. Maybe. Yes. Well, I don't do six eleven matchup almost done. We just need something to play against cheers in the great eight in the childhood bracket. Okay. Well, hold on. Because there's a monster in this region. Other than cheers. Cheers. Cheers advance. The final four in any bracket that I saw. Let's do the six eleven grandma. Let's go over. Graham. All right. All right. This one here at number six six eleven could this could be the weakest of all of the match ups that we've seen throughout the the bracket. I would watch them. I especially the eleven needs to be watched here. Go. Here's number six. The point. I agree with Kate, by the way, kiva who famously hates aliens aliens think they exist. Right. You think you know, that they exist, and where do you come down on this? He's he's in idiot. Like, it is so era Eric to assume that in the vast of space, which is so incredibly large that we can't have to that. There's no other intelligence his billion people on earth and one of them is frigging, Chester. Also, there should be no alcohol. To ever plays because that's all second. Let's see. Interesting. You were skipping that song every time after the first episode. Let, you know, the the X files, I do think that the theme song, I think has some ironic of value in terms. After one play. I think. Okay. All right. But just watch this video kief press play on the link because this video is awesome. We are number eleven theme song from the Chester's childhood bracket. A video game. Just a what was I looking for here? And they inspector. You do not enjoy that. No. I hated rooted for the bad guy. Victor gadget has no likability. You gotta root for the bad guys in inspect six. He suck. That whole thing. It was so enjoyable. So great. Oh my God. You guys the inspector. Gadget George Mason. It's an eleven seed who like not just that. They're going to the final four, but they're like favorite in all their match ups and people were saying. In their match upset is Rudy. Cannon. Anyway, before before I started this bracket. I I was like inspector gadget what the hell is doing here. And then that's the only one since the very first region where I was singing along as it was playing. I was like enjoying myself tapping our floor of this podcast electric. I'm gonna getcha beating. The X files. But I would have the inspector gadget. In the top one hundred theme songs. Expos doesn't have a theme song. That's why inspector. Gadget wins for me. Expose annoys for five seconds. Enjoyable, right. That's what that's would be like. You're you're advancing inspector gadget. It doesn't matter. It's about to lose play number three. It's about to lose. There's thirty cartoons. That have better. Tv themes the six people sent me brackets only one of them had inspector gadget. Not in this week sixteen. Okay. Well is up against the X files. All right. No, no, it up five out of six people beating one. Okay. Let's play. All right here, we go. Here is our number three seed. Okay. Tell me if it's too soon. Whatever happens. A paper. We should just sing. Super long version of this. Born. Okay. In the later, you get this. You definitely just now that being said it, obviously it's going to be inspector. Gadget. All right. I was thinking about going with inspector gadget here. Keep but I didn't mention. An anonymous benefactor who send us a generous pay pal donations to make sure that the full house advances in the Prakit. Thank you misspent factor. I appreciate that. It's funny. Like, I know people who bought livers to stay alive in like skip people on the list is funny. People are mad about about like, all right? You skipped someone college that the happening curb that happened in real life. Yep. Liver. Deliver dying rich. They got. Anyway. The. I don't know how we got into that. Right. Let's seven ten match really a free songs. We have not heard yet. All right to forty five songs today cheese. Okay. All right killed at man. Here we go HSE ninety nine. All right here, we go. We are. Now, are we gonna put civil houses is through to the great? Switz- six six. All right. Seven ten. What is mad anymore? Here we go our number seven seed in the chess childhood bracket. Thank you. Thank you. Right, golden girls. Keep a golden guy. I Sam golden guy. I'm sure there's a podcast called the golden guys where they just episodes. Let's see what do it if not should we? Yeah. Scrapped like some momentum here. But I feel like that guy. We had momentum. I feel like we lost it fucking the ditch right now what if what if this is the seventy five dollar patron level like we don't release this episode. The Email bag bag just for this next week. Golden guys podcast. You have our permission to start it. If you're if you're an enter an enterprising listener out there you want to all right, golden, golden guy. No. But I think that's really good. I think it's an easy win for it against. All right. All right here, we go. Here is our number ten seed in the Chester's childhood bracket. Dukes of hazzard. Okay. Jessica Simpson agreed to wear short shorts, basically. Yeah. That was the pitch for that movie. Right. I think so I think for shell was in like, the direct to DVD remake. Wow, girls, obviously destroy has. I'm pushing hazardous cancelled. Now, right. Oh, I don't know anything about it. Confederate flag confederate though. Yeah. Yeah. It's been canceled for a while. All right, golden, girls move it off. Okay. Last news of the day, right? And last, but certainly not least one of the favorites to win the whole. Golden girls taken on a number two seed in Chester's childhood bracket. Just became the prince of Bel-Air. Max. Shooting. Little. Auntie and uncle in Bel Air. Anything? Told. Salmon. Thrown the principal air. Right. Video that was like it was a joke. That was like a gritty remake of the fresh prince of Bel-Air opening. I did not see it is a question. Yeah. How much did the cab from Philadelphia Tillis Angeles? Why does it fly? Katherine. No, fresh prince verse go the golden girls. This is this a Titanic matchup for around the thirty two. Okay. All right. Golden girls is beloved. Is memorable. Yeah. But the song is good doesn't really explain the show doesn't explain the show the, you know seat opening sequences, really. It's just a bunch of clips. Yeah. It's it's not special. It's not funny. It's just like, you know, just like default TV opening billboard shots of the of the cast and song. It's not particularly about how we have. We don't know the back story of how blanche and Dharthi and rose became friends and moved in the house with Dr 'this mom, so I will give it to the fresh prince fresh prints moves onto the quarter of a lot of boxes for me. The fresh prince beating full house also. Yup. I feel like that full house too much controversy. We don't want that heat. We don't want the smoke. Right, right. We don't wanna get indicted. We will move the fresh principal air to is this the final the the lead. This may be the harsh decision. We're gonna make tonight. Okay. We're almost done guys. All right now. I just have to say you guys have been ops. Ing me and the listeners all night. So I was so worried that you were gonna vote out freshman. Now, the fresh prince we're up sing, we can't thing. Listening. We get a check I might have a small sample size. But your guys it's not just that they've been sort of my small group of listeners wanted, but it's been against what my small group listeners predicted you guys with. You've kept they weren't. They were predicting what we would do. And now what they want to happen. No. So Kevin Donnelly headache? What will happen all these listeners? They said this is what I want. This is what I think it was. Fill out have they heard of Mike greenberg's one bracket of integrity. No, this is what should happen. But we're worried about kief. Okay. Yeah. They should be worried about me. It's four seventy. Okay. Fresh prince. I I don't know where to go. I think the winner here is the champion. That's what I think. Okay. Wow. All right. So here my criteria. Don't help me too. Do people know all the words to the songs? I say that yesterday say, okay. All right. Are both icon ick. Yes. Which one are you listening to independent of the show? I think both I think depends on your taste. But I think you could listen to both reasonably yeah. I think that visually the fresh prince of Bel-Air features Will Smith. And I think that visually there is there is something to look at their well where you could say and tells the story of the show established we already have the show, which we like years the theme song sort of just sort of like advertising bar narrow narrow. Yeah. Don't say who the people are than say about Sam alone. Hitch for the Boston doesn't even mention Boston. And then has a love hate relationship with. Yeah. And then Carlo works at the bar. So. This would be upset. I put the fresh prince over. Cheers. I thought she was going to win the tournament. When we started. But I think fresh prince I think if we're factoring in the intro at all that it has to beat it because cheers intro is under well-made. Whereas we're very well-known by the fresh prince interest. I'm gonna say fresh prince beats cheers. And as our final entrant into the final four. Okay. Okay. You guys made a good choice there. All right. Okay. And what does it facing? Let's say on the side air against the Brady bunch the the big underdog here and friends against Gilligan's island on the other side of the bracket. I think they're both very original. I think first of all using a rap song in the opening credits. No-show show whatever done it before the Brady bunch the opening monologue is like visually one of the most creative openers. Two people did nominate hanging with Mr. Cooper. I don't even the hang of Mr. Cooper. Everybody's haying. Right now. What is the biggest snub in your mind that did not make the list? Why want to get to that at the end? All right. It's a good question. Can you go first here? I don't know what to do between the Brady bunch in fresh. Okay. I would say that. Both of these do a lot of the things that we like that. They have catchy songs people know all the words that they tell the story of the show there's something to look at visually. It's a coin flip between the fresh prince of Bel-Air and the Brady bunch. But I feel like that the fresh principal air has has momentum right now. Yeah. And I also think in cheers cheers. Which would have beaten the Brady bunch. It has to beat the Brady bunch. Yes. Yes. I think cheers should have been in the final four. Not the Brady bunch not to the brunch isn't isn't worthy. I think the whole final four is worth it. But I think fresh prince has to be in the finals. Okay. I can live with that. I can live with the fresh Bel Air coming out of the Eastern Conference. Yeah. And then on the other side, we have friends verse Gilligan's island is that. Correct. Friends verse. Yeah. Is that right? Chester friends verse Gilligan's. Yep. Yeah. What do you think? Rob. Should we listen to a better version of the Gilligan's island song season two that the Gilligan's island theme song that we listened to a subpar version of Gilligan's island theme? Let's say here's one. Here's one color. Okay. Let's let's say if we can try this one share this year. That started this topic. Say. Three. Three. Getting tighter ship tossing. Ships. Skip berg. Erasure fresher Marriott has been. What happened to the minot like they show picture of it that it looks like on the side, the minnow would have been lost. But I would sink. How great of a sailor the skipper and Gilligan that they were able to sail a boat with a hole in it to an island. They're good sailor makes no sense the whole show. Here's the thing. If if let's say you had Spotify open. Okay. Yeah. And the friends theme song comes on, you know, it's like a minute. I feel like you leave it on that song comes on. I feel like you're rushing to your computer to shut it off. Right. It's good. Tv theme song. If I wife walked in the Gilligan's island theme song would play. What is? She's she's calling a lawyer that minute. You'd be like it's for pod. Karen? In with you with Gillian himself with Bob Denver. John John, Denver, John. He's also I believe he is on the alternate side. So then more, well, it might work cover. Okay now. All right. Getting his first. Our friends I have friends beating Gilligan's and make finals, but Denver sadly past September two thousand five so. Okay. All right. So yes, I think that we should give Gilligan and the Gilligan's island seven do I think that they are the gold standard for the song that, you know, all the words tells the story of the show is II Connick and. Something to look at. So I think it's the gold standard. But I think that it's it's time has passed. It's passed by by friends. I agree so friends and fresh prince welcome to the championship match. All right. What a what a battle of titans to the greats of all time two of the all time greats. Not since the king cake baby faced Oreos seven days ago days ago at this point. Yes for kiva. I think for everybody not not for listener secrets faced off against the stand tournament to two greats met. Okay. Just do you have a strong opinion here? Not that we're letting vote, but you have opinion, the idea of a strong opinion, rob anywhere near the final Chester hates friends. He loves the fresh principal air because I do not of the first principle era in the final four either by the way Simpson. Okay. But that being said he does not care for friends. He doesn't think it should be in the in the finals, Chester is also biased against any place that he has geographically spent time. So the theme song of the fresh prince of Bel-Air mentions. Philadelphia Chester has already said that he went to school there. He's biased towards Philadelphia. And so authors against I like friends is show much more than either view. And I like the theme song. It's just that it got passed. It didn't even get past madman. Be mad men versus the jeffersons. Right. Gadget. Inspector gadget. If I had my way, it'd be game of thrones against Gilligan and the Simpsons against the jeffersons. Okay. Okay. Not too crazy gets fresh prince was incredibly close for me. And to me, it's just friends to make it out of a bracket that has unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt madman. And game of thrones is just I'm a bias for game of thrones technology, but madman. I think most people would pick madman to come out of here really analyze these songs again, rob you wanna vote let's just for the same time. We'll count down three two one decide what's better, fresh prince or friends. What's the greatest team? Okay. Three two one of them. We're gonna say it, correct? Okay. All right. All right here. We go. Who saying the three to one Chester you say three two one three two one freshman. Fred's win. No wonder what what are you talking about? He said fresh prince said friends are the end for the listeners. I know. No. Yesterday deciding. Congratulations. Keep it would be so basic if we sat here for four hours and said friends was the greatest team saw Kevin Donnelly, by the way picked fresh prince to win the whole thing. So good on him. Yes engine. Kevin donnelly. Only three shows that can even be considered. Cheers, fresh prince and unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. So good for him. He got one of those. Dr Jen said the toughest match up in the whole bracket was game of thrones gets madman. At the second. Toughest was prints. Men household. What'd you guys do on Sunday nights from two thousand seven to two thousand thirteen Dr fresh prince over inspector gadget was the second. Toughest match up. Inspector. Gadget. Stands at your. We're not just. A great song. A better video. I don't know. I will say this to be fair. We are currently were doing renovations on our house a secret. If I mentioned it to your thousands of listeners, but listen to this point we're putting in a secret door in our house pointing like an armour like a panic room minute. No, no, just like, we're putting up our more. But when you open up, the it's actually a doorway to another room, and that's in the in the inspector. Gadget video. So I think that appeal to us for that. We're in the middle of your using design from inspector gadget. Exactly. So pious. All right. So so congratulations, the fresh prince on being the theme song of all time. But rob you asked me if there were any snubs, I think there's a ton of snobs. We got a late. Breaking email. Can you can you click? What I sent you and play it. Okay. All right. Clicking Email from a kiva late in the game. Here we go. Here's video from Makita. Bell's music. It's in the tournament. Tournament. Yeah. This is the say by the bells now challenging the fresh prints for the championship. Oh, it gets six six by six by in the finals right now. Let's go to song of all of all time. Let's say let's see. So I'll tell you. Came closest Beverly Hills nine to one. Among sort of like the penny. Marshall thing back Cotter three is the Beverly hillbillies scrubs darney Miller Greenacres saved by the Bill Miami. Taxis. Couple those close here. None of these listeners sent in the survivor theme song, Chester that seems odd to me survivor had to totally votes. Maybe Chester used his veto. There would break Chester. See I thought it'd be funny if we have saved by the bell win, and it wasn't in Chester's tournament because it would bother him so much what if we put survivor now up against fresh prints and so. Listeners will be furious. If we waste three and a half hours of their time and then. How much or Chester would be and that should make them happy. Yeah. I guess. Charleston charged that mentioned in the snow a good one. What about welcome back kotter? Yeah. Perfect strangers people that plays supposedly head. I'm told perfect strangers got three votes. Okay. What else did you guys just mentioned delirious? ATM got no love the AT. Also got three votes. This scrolling through a let love boat got nothing. Hillstreet blues. Hillstreet blues. I mentioned already one of the ones close. But no cigar. Love bulk. Nobody likes magnum PI facts of life got three votes. Magnum P. I got two votes. Okay. All right. Scrolling through doctor asked the ones that she wanted to see was the monsters bewitch, raising genie. The Beverly hillbillies those the ones that she s for I never want to hear another TV theme song in my life. So this is a success. All right. Very there. We have it the best TV theme song of all time. Keep it that we said that we would do one idea for the wheel. Tournaments yet. Brecca season is officially over. It's over. All right, except the thirty two fans where we have a big one this week. Okay. All right. That's fine. Okay. Let's go ahead and take a look at one idea you're going to give him. Give you stick around. Sure. All right. This far we've made it this far. So here we go. Let's get into the wheel. We'll talk. Okay. All right. Imagine. If this is somebody's first episode of this podcast if. Warning if the be all, right. This is from Greg McBain, Gregory mcbean. Okay. Okay. Says everyone does something with food that they think is completely normal. But others think is very weird for my podcast that the people can send in their food hot takes. And you guys can judge them? Maybe someone out there even be inspired to try something. Someone stands in for example. I hate cold salsa it up in the microwave. I recently told us to some friends, but I thought I was crazy last week we discussed putting mustard on peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Should we do a food takeoff? Will we get enough submission? That's one of these ones where we turn it over to the to the audience, and it could go any number of ways. It's a question. How about this send your food? Hot takes with the Email Subject Food hot takes. And if we get enough we'll put it on the wheel, and this yester- have any food heartaches. We'll save them for the for the frigging submission. He's like way more food. Hot takes me because he's like. Olives are the worst food in history of the world. What what I don't know where my other. If you hate foods. I don't dislike anything, it's true. I'm very picky eater. Just go to restaurant twenty times order different thing. All twenty times. I heard of the same thing. Right. He gets mad. If somebody at the table orders the same thing as him, correct? Or like a little slow. Okay. All right. So that was that was it. Do you wanna share any of our updates from our ombudsperson issue next week? I seventy five hours how about this from Fitzy yours. My so bad. It might actually be good idea. This week, Robin. Akiva, read the phone book. You know, the staying listen this person read the phone book, well rubbing accuser test that theory out by reading the pages or phone book. Okay. No problem with that one. Also is like where would we get phone books? I don't think they send them to my house by just throw them right in the recycling. Yeah. Nobody would keep them. So I don't know would. All right. All right. So let's talk what's currently on the wheel right now. Okay. So Robin, Akiva, Salva murder. That's going to be where we watch CSI New York episode season. Three episode seven is up to believe in all time, high ten slots on the wheel probably getting picked. Okay. We were coin flip never came up. We have the Oregon Oregon trail. Chester's definitely going to be one of the people on the Oregon trail, right? Hope for you know, hopefully, that'll be fun to decide who's accompanying. But a lot of listeners, I think canonical Aubrey fr-. I don't know why. But Aubrey from survivor offeree, Chester. And then remind me what's that idea? Again, never played the video game that Oregon trail I've played it. Yeah. Okay. That in the cloud. All right. I'm gonna die of dysentery or. Yes, okay rise. And fall of Jonathan Taylor Thomas forgot that's their MTV shows are trash, Robin, Akiva life coach we're gonna get Caitlyn hermit in here. And she's gonna give us some advice. The listeners to infomercials trash with Eric Stein. The Royal rumble the crappy movie diaper slash hat, which has two spots. Would you have any suggestions for the crappy movie diaper? There's there was this movie called the ten ten years ago. I love that. No one else ever heard of. Jon Hamm a million. Man. No, I mentioned because he it was like before he was famous madman had already come out. But when he fielded had it so he plays like a one second role. He's like an extra. But it's the people from the state, basically like Ken Marino crowd. Okay. Paul rod, but it is a bad movie. Most things, but I it's one of my favorite movies. So you're the bad movie thing where we like to make fun of movies. You're suggesting a good movie. Okay. No. I'm movie that nobody likes me, Chester. Okay. Gadget of movies. All the specter. Gadget stands guys come at me. Come come. I dare you to be our ops. We are. What's the hashtag episode? We need a good one. We don't do hashtags for the show. We don't do a hashtag approaching four hours. I think we need to tag people like coach. Plu pass for a badge of honor of. Hey, I sat through misery. Okay. Okay. Then this one episode crash people's phones. I mean, what are you gonna do? Total idea. Live millennials killed it and wind shut up. Tim's money is in contention this week. Okay. Yeah. All right. Just do you have a spot on the wheel that you are hoping for? Coin toss is where you guys pick something random coin toss. It's like it's like podcasts choice. So I think it's it's like one for me one for you. So I'll root for Qantas for you. It's one for me. All right. What did he have a spot on the wheel guest choice if guests that contention for this week? Okay. Also like we've had like a guest like seven weeks. I just want some rob time next week TV show for a movie. No guests not have to worry about frigging scheduling at two in the morning. For this. Sara where I'm coming from. And in fairness that erupted keeping podcast in March alone. I think that we have done like eleven or twelve hours of podcasting over four episodes. Yeah. But none of March. I'm saying, let's let's let's go back to the basics next week. Let's watch TV show or movie. Let's see what happens. Let's. You'd be on your pocket so kiva give us a time. Check right now five eighteen AM five eighteen. Okay. So might be likely to use a veto if something comes up, I'm crying. Okay. All right. Cranky kief. Here we go. Let's get our spinning for episode number twenty nine. That's huge all wheel almost the wheel season episode seven is it coming so close. But it is not is one way Robin, Akiva, solve a murder. Okay. Watching TV show and no guest. Okay. So this is one of the very first things. I got put on the wheel. No veto, right? Not enough. He doing okay, we're watching season three episode seven of CSI New York if I recall. Yes. So does the season three episode? But it was one. Chester. We've got twenty eight time. We will. We're what we're gonna do a little. A little tricky in terms of timing. But we're gonna watch the show we will come back after each act break and drive the action. And then give our predictions about what's going on after each be basically like six segments yet. Maybe I'll have a listener sort of send us like the Timestamps before. And so we know how long we have. Okay. All right. They go. All right, Robin, Akiva, solve murder. Okay. Of course, Alexander, Chester. 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And we we we we tried the bait what the best TV theme song is just tell her this podcast is beloved it's twenty eighteen RHA breakout podcast of the year. And that you know that you're making people happy. Fishy spending all my money tomorrow embar buying new big car. So. I guess I can't be mad. If it's any consolation that it is eight twenty three and this is very late for me to eat dinner. I feel very bad. Like, I don't like to eat a big meal and then go to bed soon. What are you having tonight you having chicken for some some baked chicken? I don't know if it's too late for the sweet potato just for dinner tonight. I had pasta pasta pasta. I kind of doctor I feel like not a great cook. That's that's my impression. Why are you assuming that she's the one cooking? Not me. You didn't make it. You didn't take any ownership of the pasta? Well, first of all first of all we don't have a kitchen right now because of our. Gadget plan. On a diet ever since the fermented cereal. 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AANG IN THERE | Avatar: The Last Airbender Book 1, Episode 8: Winter Solstice, Part 2: Avatar Roku

"Having a crappy week well, hang in there. We are back with everybody's favourite Avatar the last air bender re-watch podcast. I'm one of your host Zach Mohamed and as always I'm joined by my good friend and partner in this adventure. Jacob Jacob. How're you doing today? I'm doing great. You know usually it's just me and you hear but we actually we brought a special guest along with us this time. Zach. Yeah we got rob has a podcast breakout star in my opinion this man's been just on fire on every single podcast. He's been on a now. We're lucky to have him on our show. Please welcome Chapelle Chapelle. How're you doing today? I'm good I'm good. Thank you all for that interdicted I. Don't I don't know if I consider myself a breakout star, but I just like to talk a lot. Of People people enjoy. Hear me laugh like goofball so. I guess that makes me a pretty popular these days but I'm very happy to be having excited to talk about the show. Yeah. I. Think that's the secret to good podcasting is just laughing bunch. If you're having on the listeners are having fun and Man I was having fun listening you on the most recent robin given the odd guest stuff was funny man. If you're in for a laugh that the guy. You know laughing at me I'm definitely going to be laughing at something so. I had a good time Robin Akiba I'm glad you guys listened to like. Yeah. Definitely not going to get on your bedside I feel like you were coming after. Kiva. Some of it's warranted for sure I am his biggest stand, but some of its. But? Yeah I'll definitely anyway yeah. I should have known I was going to get a blowback from there from Cuba's biggest stand but. I feel like from my point of view I've just been listening for. So long he was just blatantly disrespect from. Earning yeah. Put that into a Akitas wikipedia page me and Clarence ops. All right. Perfect. That's a pretty good list of OPS. Honestly, if you're going to have people who don't like you, you're you're part of a great list. He's got a great people who don't like him. Cool drinks. So we'll transition back into the avatar stuff. Before before we get into the episode recap, I'll just wonder Chapelle how did you get into Avatar due to watch it as a kid like feel free to give us your introduction without a car yeah. I, remember watching it as a key when it I like was released kind of watch it in real time. And I I remember like being mildly interested in it but then I think they released a video game about it and one of my good friends was like, Oh, I'm obsessed with this game and he kept talking about it kept talking about and I oh, have seen this show before and so I went back and watched it because he was so obsessed with the video game and that's not realize like. This is a really good show, and so I'll probably watch it once or twice back then you know over the years. But then when it was added to net Flix, especially, you know in a post Kovic world, you know we all leave the house I started binging Benjamin again, just having it on in the background while I was like doing menial tasks around the house and it's just been perfect. You know. To kind of go back down that nostalgia of watching it the first time, and then I got to watch the legend of Cora again I remember watching it when I was released because I was very excited about the the. Follow up to the last air bender, and now you know now it's on Netflix but before it was on CBS access and so I watched it on there and then two weeks later here on Netflix watched it again. So I'm pretty well versed in I'm probably more well versed in court just recently but but yeah, I I've always liked the show a lot what I'm excited about. Is being here to listen to you guys talk about it because y'all like seemed like the experts like I feel like I, watch it like as a cartoon and y'all have been doing such a good job of looking into like like being very insightful about all the things of this show and even the few times you sports stuff on accident and you know the knowing that you get. They're all towing Scifo I'll enjoy listening to you talk about it brings up the nose to the show for real. So I'm happy to be here. Oh, I appreciate that to be Jacob the one on spoiler that was did not have a spoiler warning was me so. That and. I think we've done a good job was bulla warnings I'd like to think but yeah. I don't WanNa. I don't WanNA throw off your ousting I'm GonNa try not to spoil too much of the core, but it's like I. Say it's Front of mind so I might make reference to. Give. Warning before and I think it's Fine Marta. Yeah. We're with when it comes out to air and we're like spoilers away we don't care we're trying. was was the video game that you got into the one on the we. Know I wanNA say this playstation. So it was one of those games. It's kind of like a kind of I wouldn't say RPG game, but you kinda get to toggle between the the three different. People on team. Avatar. But it wasn't my game. It was my friends game and so he was obsessed with the game. So I got watched him play it and I was like, okay. I'll get back into the show but even back then we would discuss like, oh, what kind of vendor would you be and he would always say, well, I'm avatars like well. Not. Okay that. That's kind of a cop out. It's pretty funny. Actually got into the show again after playing the video game on the we. One of my friends had to so very similar paths here chapelle. Bender would you be? Okay when it comes to the elements. Like just in general I think I'm more I'm I'm kind of a water guy but like at like what I think like if I had to end up in a bending like tribe or nation I know up in fire I'm goofball but I'm kind of intense sometimes I'm a lot. And I feel like they carry that kind of heavy missiles with them of being a lot. You know they're kind of fiery I'm areas as fiery as well. So I think I'll live with the fire nation also think like if I was in times of war or something like that, it's very beneficial to be a fire bender. They can create their own fire and this is Kinda. It's one of those things very practical. But me I'm not a war type person. So I would be the fire to like every time like Iro just sitting around like warming not. Your heart. Pre Heating and. that. Hockey. It's instantly you know kind of what my bag. So I I would be a a background fire nation. Some person yeah. For sure. Those perfect. I'm also it would be a fire bender myself. So I like the idea that you know you could preheat the oven and we could just like both blow up together and get angry right? Basically. Yeah it's It's such a it's such like a good bending style with someone who wants to fight. Right. But if you don't want to, it's just like Oh does anybody need a match? Your. Neighborhood Abraham started exactly yeah. You can save a fortune on lighters. Two dollars really add up. Really, enjoy that actually. Exactly. Exactly. Life of the party. All right. Well, that's great. Thanks for so much for joining US Chapelle. Yeah. You ready to get into the episode? Yeah. We can get into this episode and I think one of the things that this episode and the episode. Prior we had a really good three episodes stretch with imprisoned the to prior Kiyoshi Island. In the Bumi episode I thought those three were pretty good episodes and then kind of season one we fall into this not necessarily they're not the best. Not some of the episodes between ten and twenty of Avatar season. One I think you could argue this might even be the weakest stretch of the series as a whole and this episode itself like. Well, it's a good episode I. Think down the Line especially season two, it's going to get a lot better. So we start this episode we see at team Muhtar they're leaving this village of what we described last week is like these legend of Zelda NPC's just as bland these bland character Character villagers and they're leaving. Opt Ang's trying to get up to go APAs refusing and he we got soccer guitar refuse to let Ango by himself. They decide like if you're going to fire nation, we gotta George they got their homes back. Yet. But see it doesn't WanNa go and and for some reason things 'cause they're going without guitar Asaka maybe opposite just tired I mean leave at midnight like let's get some rest in. This is a good episodes track OPPA Abbas energy level as well because you're right he's giving Ashley I mean he giving like the chartered vibes like? No No. Thank you. And I think I. Is Episode we'll see later on he gets shot it and he has like travel hundreds and hundreds of miles like in a very short amount of time with these people on his back I think we should be thinking about justice for Oppor because I'm pretty sure I would be exhausted to through the struggle was real for oppa this. Lucky. said he's got like flying rocks catapulted at his head. He's got all this stuff. He's got a fly twenty four hours. I don't know how long it was looked like a hundred miles or some crap like that. So yeah run for opera here. What am I mean whenever whenever pilots go on like international flights that always get a break but here like there can't right on Momo Apas got a really shoulder the load he's doing. The whole work here. Right mobile has the best GIG ROBOT Moke literally fly, but also he could just ride on whomever it doesn't have to be up. He could just hop on your shoulder and have arrived for the day. They have a lot of stamina as a group Jay walk so much but I think we have to look out for up on this one because he he's GonNa get put through the ringer you'll see coming up. And I don't know if you guys noticed. But as they're leaving Ang's in the process of saying, thank you to this villager and the villagers. Cou He's in the middle of say, thank you. I. Thought it was weird. Guys Rudas Heck I thought. Yeah, yeah it's a this guy. You know he gives them a bunch of supplies, which is exactly what soccer wanted in the last episode. So you know a little thanks makes sense and how much is that GONNA slow them down like a second yeah. Exactly I thought it was kind of funny. No, that's a good good point especially, because just seconds before they were telling him not to go. So they're like, no, don't go don't go away. No, it's so sad like you say it's adding dejected please don't leave. Tech later they're like, okay. Let's just go. GET, out of here. They flip the switch and he was like, okay well, since you're going Harry up. So that's a good point. I. I actually completely forgot that they didn't want him to go. So within ten seconds since like no, please stay till like you must leave right now like stop watch already started you gotta get out of here someone waste of your time we won't point fingers because it was me but. then. The next scene is this rude man. He gets a costed by Zuko Zucca finds image like where's the Avatar we just short little glimpses of Zuko coming through he's on the avatars tail here and how rude is that like I don't think Zuko is going to get any supplies from this. Nice old man. I'll. Shares all worry about getting supplies from this old that. But who knows if he asked me? I bet he would get some but instead he pushes them on the ground I. Mean That's not that's bad etiquette he so menacing for a sixteen year old. You. At some point I won't be like listen kid gotTA. Chin because he he's about he's he's scaring these adults are intimidate intimidated by him for sure. Yeah Zuko Sixteen and then I think Zulu like fourteen when she? And imagine these. Yeah I read that recently, I couldn't believe the Zulus four teed. She's a scariest fourteen year old girl. I've ever seen in my entire life bar nut. When I was fourteen hours like when I was fourteen struggling with my math homework and like Zula's about like toppling entire Earth Kingdom. Government next next season this is absurd. Yeah the Zulu Zulu is the greatest legal television for sure and honestly you said she craziest fourteen year old but she's definitely the craziest person on this show by far and it'll be fourteen years old and. To. Have this level of just pure evil in. Next you think. Okay we'RE GONNA meet. Zuma's dad but man, the mom jeans couldn't have been that strong. Like one hundred percent. Kurt. Yes. Because she's fourteen and it's like not only she super powerful but you just command so much respect especially when you see here with the Earth Kingdom soldiers in. Season Two like Jacob was just say. Yeah. But you're not just give too far disease to continue with this episode. So we get Zuko, he's tailing off and the crew into fire nation territory and Iro this is the first time we actually he's got pissed off. Zuko for being reckless and foolish go was actually banished by his father fire. Lord owes I and yeah, he's not allowed back in the fire nation. Ours like. This this it's pointless. Let avatar go. YOUNG-CHOL IRO here's like you know the level head he smart. Zukas. Not GonNA listen to him though I. Mean He's so brash and headstrong that uncle has to know that these words are falling on deaf ears. I wonder because I believe Iro says this is crazy. If you think you've done in the sixteen years, you've been alive. Well, I, really like to know whether other opportunities for something crazier than this happen. This sixty year. Okay. Does leading ship until like enemy? Well, you know it's a hostile territory with his uncle and chasing after the Avatar like Oklahoma wrong I'm sure that even if he's done anything else crazy, it's not touching this by far. This is Number one with a bullet. That's a great point I wanNA know at second place. Second place must be like he skipped school when he was eight lake. Challenging ozone to the Agni though. That's top two for. One in one be the fact that he did that and he's got the burden to show for it as a crazy too. That's. Probably, like stealing Zula's toy or something. Sounds like it could be number two, honestly how crazy Zula is. Sure and so on Zuko ship, they have like this catapult and then apparently the bombs for some reason I don't know why if Zuko his ship has just ghetto bombs compared to the things we'll see how because I don't know if you noticed they talk about how do bombs wreak just smell like crap on heads they're just like these diarrhea bombs and he's hurling at the Avatar for some reason that's why I was confused by this. Yeah and where do they keep these because like if they're on the ship, you have to imagine that they're gonna make everything smell bad. So I should be pleased. Let's get these off the ship immediately sin them all. Because if not like I, don't know how they're keeping that smell under wraps. He he definitely, he seemed like he would rather them not be shooting. Like whatever you whatever you have to do is five but if I could not smell this, that would be great I think he even ask for more fragrant bombs so it has to be noticeably like. Pungent for for. Jairo you know these people it doesn't look like they're. Necessarily the most hygienic, we see our take a couple baths, but for this mail to be so rank. You gotta you know you gotTa know this is probably something dead or like. Doodlebug homes I agree with you in this part of my language, but their shit must malic acid on. Live episode there are talking about Ireland shoes and Irish Jews are like so pungent gross that Zuko can. Tell that it's Iras Jews from the nasty sent. So you got that stuff going on we got these bombs that they got below deck I just found this. So weird because when we see JAL later on it I don't think each student stink bombs I think it's just normal boulder set on fire. I guess, maybe it's Zukas banned from the fire nation he's and got the same supplies at these. That's the reason he's got these nasty smelly bulbs but. expired. arranged. Early. Exit. Running much. Yeah. So why is it uncle Iro more invested in stopping Zuko from like capturing Avatar? You know knowing knowing what we know about look like. With him kind of one of one of the heads of the secret organizations that it's supposed to keep peace. He's just like haphazardly like, yes go just shoot them but it stinks. At what point does Iro say hey, maybe. For. Peace purposes we we leave them alone I think the thing with IRA he's all about leading zoo kind of find his own way and make his own decisions will see that a lot especially late in season two. But also even in this season I wrote kind of just let, Zuko, make these mistakes and learn from these mistakes and also Iro still I don't like, I guess yeah he kind of doesn't necessarily want the Avatar captured. But for Awhile IRA team fire nation he led that seige on bossing said. Yeah. What do you? What about you? Jacob. What's your exit of this? I think that it's kind of like inception like if Uncle Iras, like, Hey, no, you can't do this than Zuko is going to be like whatever old man but it Shows him the error of his ways than like maybe he knows he'll ultimately be able to redeem him because they think Uncle Ira probably knows that. tzoukatos grandfather is Avatar Roku. And he has that connection. So my guess is that Uncle Iro has this knowledge and knows ultimately that Zuko destiny is with the Avatar but if he tells him that he's just GonNa. Like lash out against uncle. So yeah, I think it's inception stuff you we got we have to have Christopher Nolan direct. The next, the next avatar movie instead of. The trash that we got was it was. It. Your? Day. Classic so bad but the about the acid because like these stink bombs are Hurley get the Avatar. And he's just gotTa. Let you don't like what if it hits them Knox amount he falls into the ocean and die. That's the story. I wrote you could have done something loam down or something. I mean imagine how bad this series would be if like. Eight, it's like and the Avatar died. About. Twelve years. Now we have a twelve year old avatar in the one. Of The avatars early into the show like I, wonder what they would do if they actually went that route. Would Okay. Iro, Iro knows like Zukas trying but I don't think that he has that much confidence in the sixteen year old. He knows the avatars like very powerful. So maybe can you know burn up a little bit which is rude to you know. Here but He ultimately knows it's going to be okay. That's my take. That's a good point. Yes. They run into the fire nation blockade that Israel has set up while Zuko on their tail and yeah I when I was watching this I guess they don't know Zukas banished from the fire nation because if they if they did know that than they probably wouldn't be talking about trying to go around this blockade I think that's what Qatar Salko suggested that they fly around it, and then instead they decided to just fly straight through it. They go straight Yolo and we get this long naval battle we have here and I don't know. I don't mind naval battles in TV shows. This I thought was kind of a one or more. We're not going to rank it as a battle, but this kind of long naval battle was pretty boring. I thought personally you guys have any thoughts about this battle here on talk about quickly. I think that they should just keep going higher lake at. APAs maximum height is, but if they go higher like eventually they're out of range like at some point, you can't be hit. So just go that distance and then keep going like they make this whole blockade like super dangerous whatever it seems like they could just be above the cloud line and then they would never see like commanders I would never see him easy. flaming. Apparently, this flaming boulders can go above the cloud line. That's what I noticed like they were pretty how that's what I was surprised about. But if you start there, it's not like they're gonNA see him before. So I think that they made a mistake flying low to begin with but. It wasn't that cool. The only cool moment I think is when the boulders coming right for. OPPA an angry sauce in air benzion half. Little flying side kick there. Can we talk about that though like they're above the above the clouds right and so this is kind of confused because I'm with you like why didn't you just start up there and no one was you but they suit up there the. General. Command commanders is like, Hey, if we if we hit Zuko, it's fine. He's a traitor anyway. I really have questions about. Is goes data. Okay with them being killed in the. Art of war or wouldn't you want to be taken in bike? Gluco die because you mentioned. He's like yeah your your father's not compassionate. Madeline allow you back into the fire nation I don't think he. Cares honestly I mean if he's okay with him dying, we need some like social services I know the fire nation's pretty advanced lake. We need someone to step in and intervene here because that's messed up I think he'd be okay if he died yeah he kinda like Oh yeah that's just a traitor anyway. So he's okay cool it. So that's definitely as. Dad. died he dies but. So. He falls off. Well. So soccer falls off of. Of Abbas back and like through the clouds camario level type of situation and opera has fly down here in enemy fire and save him. Then they have to fly back up and the whole time they're getting shot it again, I just GonNa play my flag say this is worst episode of today they're digging some harder time for opera in the future but right now I'm worried about him. He definitely needs a break. But Yeah I think and then leading up to when they actually you know like we were saying that moment where Ang has the jump off of opera and Save Them from that one I guess fire fire nation missile is a missile. Torpedo. Flaming Boulder, he jumps off and he air kicks I. Remember you guys talking about a couple of episodes ago The fire nation you know like Zuko does the fire kicks ally and is that the first time we see anger use a kick as as a air bending 'cause that seemed like a very unusual way to do that. You would think he just moved out of the way just kind of been the air around it to make it go the opposite direction are deflected, but he just bursts it. into million pieces. Yeah. That's true. Especially, you think he wouldn't burst into a million pieces because like the blowback from that could hit Qatar sock or off and I don't know he probably has kicked in this year's for all the top of my head. I. Can't remember a single time. This is the first time I can actually. Feel like I. saw him utilize kick like that. Yet you make a really good point because if he can Air Ben, he should just urban the boulder down. Like remarkably more safe. Do a counterattack like to. Yeah. Flashy. But it definitely gave me the Zuko Bob's you remember the article I wrote you remember the fire drop kick. That's true. I didn't realize that know hang had a better move maybe he just wanted to pay homage to Iras? Bad Ass moved last night. I. Know Tissue. Paul's point about Opera Apas. Avoiding all of these fire Blah fire like boulders at point blank range. He comes out of this pretty unscathed. We kind of forgot to mention how there's a little gag that they have in the middle of this battle where opera barely avoids a boulder. But some of the like ashes like flaming residue gets on him and then they have like Momo Qatar, talk quickly wiping them down. I thought that was. Pretty Funny Gag in the middle of the battle there. The the other funny thing I think. So in Sokha falls off, he gets to go through a cloud, which is what angered at the beginning of last episode. And as he's falling down a fish hit soccer in the face an as it's like flying behind him moment captures it which like lemurs are vegetarian which means that this is a move just for sock like we know how hungry soccer is soccer always wants to eat and Momo captured dinner for him. This is the nice budding relationship between mon soccer. The, I thought that this was Momo trying to find a replacement sardine for. The Tara. This attracted Qatar Sardine usage she had this big win a bath. They're attacked by seeing when you could just throw them. Out into the into the opens I, thought I thought that's what it is, but I really didn't think about soccer eating the fish. I thought it was for a practical uses. LEMURS VEGETARIANS NOT GONNA lie I watch the boom was a kid. I didn't even know that honestly. I actually like. The more I think we're GONNA say that instead of pocket sardine now we have a pocket bass it's. Getting bigger eventually by the end of the series, somehow Qatar is going to be having that huge Doggie in her pocket. Episode of the Khushi Island, this is great. I love it. are whipping out random seafood at different times. But yeah, no, that's a good point too I didn't know Well, I guess I never thought about being a vegetarian. So when when he grabbed the fish, I just thought, Oh look at him grabbing the fish I didn't think this isn't even for him. So that's a good boy I never thought about that. Yes and if you watch momo in these episodes, there's so many little things that I feel like the animators do with Momo even in the back when you don't know really paying attention, he's always doing some funny gag. We'll continue with the plot. Here's so JAU team Avatar gets through the blockade narrowing and Jau decides to let Zuko through because then he knows if he tells Zuko Zuko will lead him straight to a make sense here. Yeah, this is the obvious move. You know commander a pretty smart Zuko is on fire. So it was easy to track. You can stay back far enough and be able to follow them and let them do the blockade like what? What's the worst case someone else captures them like totally fine. Yeah and we find out because I roy explained to cause goes confused as well. You know he's just like, why would they let me through and I guess that's the reason why Iro he just kinda hangs in the back can give like tactical advice residual. But like you said, he lets them make his own decisions because you would think I would have said you know there's a better. This is like a lauded war hero and so you would think IRA would say you know there's a better. Way of doing this, but he let's make his own decisions and he just Kinda stands there as sounding boards I really liked it. Yeah. This is like tactics one on one and Uncle Iro picks up on immediately. But yeah, you gotTa let them do what he wants because if you tell Zuko don't do something I think he'll do it twice just to spite you know probably yea and Zuko does even listen Iro half the time so it's a struggle for uncle Rojas in Washington zoo up a bunch. We continue here we got this also they get through team avatars flying have this cool shot of opera, his gut, the heavy load here he's flying and we see as he's flying they have like this the animation in the background the day is progressively changing from morning to sunset. Knowledge is a nice little animation shot there. And then they land and guitar and Salka have a funny little back and forth year guitars like aw, you must be tired talking to Alpe and sock is like, no, I'm good. I'll feel great. I'm ready to go at she was talking OPPA and he's like I was talking to mobile. Comedic Donald Gra. Episode. Yeah I think mamone soccer good friends. At this point I wanted to ask you all I. Don't know if you've ever been on a long flight but even after I get off any airplane like don't you want to take a nap like I would not be ready to fight So much energy here. Honestly. Soccer gets the luxury of just laying they guests. So yeah to your you know on a flight you WanNa you WanNa, get off and you want to go to the hotel they'll go home and rest but I guess you know he's been waiting. He's Ella picks up energy but in the background opera has passed out. Like roll over on his back early. Those guitars? Are you tired meanwhile he lets exhausted so. Yeah. So we we we're happy for you soccer but yeah, we were talking to opera this Tom. I think that OPPA wants a backrub which that's relatable like after any amount of work like you know. I. Do One Chore And I'm Ready. I'm just like I'd Love A. Belly, RUB A dog like that. I wonder what? To work. Comfortable flying on offer or flying on actual plane. You're flying coach I wonder what it'd be more. Comfy. I feel like operas got to be more comfortable I. Feel like sitting in actual seat was back support. I'm support you really God for your back. You know what we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA settle this just like my podcasting icon and I'm GonNa put it to a twitter poll. After that, just like Akiba always liked to, we'll ask the listeners I think oppose more comfortable but we'll see. I give me the plane any day I'm a big chicken. No ambition to ride on the back of flying by. At all especially when that routinely get shot at. An airplane with like you know seatbelt and some inflight movies I do not want to be flag above the clouds and it seems like it'd be pretty cold. I've already told you guys I'm a do that. Give me a airplane any day I'd be flying off of the even if you fall off, he could save you got you. We saw soccer fall like thirty feet in there and there's episode and They have. To try still just think I agree with you. I. Think. FLAINE would just be way more comfortable. I can't imagine. Flying is saddle listen if you fall off of an airplane, the airplane is not about to nosedive. First Class Service from an airplane would say I don't know how you felt but you're on your own obviously going to go save you. So that's that's a customer service at their. Point survey points were made. So they land on this fire nation, Island Ang's so in his vision Regal, island on his league this they have like the cresent shaped the volcano pretty imposing place to have a fire nation fortress. I. Thought were yes. Thoughts when you first saw this imposed Ireland. Cooling. Yeah. It's really cool. It about as municipal what you think fire nation island with Little Hick. This one I is I. You know like trip to fire nation territory right and on the show. So you know for introduction kind of the tone. Yeah? Yeah. It's a very menacing. You know volcanoes are awesome like I would never want to go near one because you know scary but. I think that it looks really cool. It'd be like exactly where I would want to put my. Timbale of Avatar. So can get a question for you guys. If you're fiber, can you bend magma or is that like you'd have to be do bending in conjunction with an earth bender that's what I was wondering when I saw this. So his legend of chorus spoiler, you know I'm giving. The spoiler warning but. In the legend of Korir, there are magma benders, but there offenders so I think they just like kind of you know, uproot the art to the magma portion. So I don't think I've but I never see a fire bender being magma Either like you know deal with hot stuff not magnet. Yeah I don't really see that he asks. So in the episode where we figure out the zoo, coz grandparent is Avatar. Roku. We do see Avatar Roku bending magma, which makes sense because you know he's the Avatar when volcano erupts, but we also see. Fire Lords Susan. I believe also at least cooling the magma or of some sort to help him fight it. So I think you made like transferring to steam or something. Yeah. Doing like a weird like fingertip deal kind of redirecting the heat. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah so I think that they can interact with Magnum but yeah, she tells right that it is like the Earth benders that I think magma bending. Interesting. Because later on in this episode when they see the spirit of Roku and he's like destroying the building, you just you like magma shooting opera everywhere but he wasn't necessarily bending it. So that does make sense that it's an earth bending thing. Yeah or maybe it's a high like maybe it is possible. Only this you know people like the avatars level of mastery can do it. 'cause I know later on in this episode. They say you know only the only like someone with Avatar skill could been this fire in this way and leg Avatar just naturally going to be more inclined to do some of this stuff regular five vendors or if I'm a master five into I couldn't pull this technique off either so I wonder if that is a possibility but the only time I ever seen you know magma actually moved was you know the nation? People in. Our business. Yes. So here where they rock up to the fire nation temple, these foreign nations, they see these findings in stages guarding the temple they introduce themselves to like we're the guardians of the temple of the Avatar but then they promptly attack a. And it's like, yeah, these old fire bender start job trying to talk and What do you think of these fire nation sages I would assume they would have actual guards here youth like actual warriors instead of just like old fat dudes guarding the temple I, don't know. They're not very intimidated. Don't you think? Yet they seem pretty scary. You know they're like fire bending masters, but they're all kind of set in their ways and bland like they all seem like boomers to me like. Like like old crotchety get out of our temple like just their outfits kind of look goofy to just like the red sage outfit. It doesn't because when I see stages in other media they look like old wise I dunno whereas when I see these guys. Look goofy. It's it's interesting because. You know they say we're the guardians of the temple of the for the Avatar and great I'm the Avatar. But we're going to get from you. We're the temple guards you know as opposed to guardians of the temple. But I agree with both of you guys. They're. They're definitely kind of out of shape to be a guards. They kind of put me in the mind of. The stereotypical police officer back in the day would like even the donor to kind of fat guy with the with the with the nightsticks. Just, kind of seemed like Oh you know maybe a few more you know some some calisthenics. PT wouldn't hurt but they're also old but I think the thing that makes them scary as there you know we know that a team Avatar hasn't dealt with a lot of vendors at this point. So that automatically makes them something kind of the unknown but there are also old and team Avatar is a bunch of kids and so you have these. boomers and these children. Extent, I guess they should be afraid but we'll see later on that they're. Really. Bad shape. So we'll get to that point because I. Talk about that you won't get too far ahead. But so one of the fire sages he chases them down this little hallway but he reveals he doesn't WANNA battle. He's one of us like an ally he wants to actually get help paying talked to Roku and he leaves them down the secret passage. I think his name was shoe. That's fire. Sage Shoe. This to help ask yeah. What's his name? Xiaoyu Cha Cha you? Yeah. Yeah Okay Yeah. Kind of chill. The rest of the people they've been one hundred years essentially on time off there's nothing to do. The AVATAR is not around this guy he seems he seems with it. I liked him. Thought that it was interesting because he he he presents himself as a friend. Right? He says, I'm here to help it. Soccer instantly goes no, you're a fire into your. House earlier when we're talking about what been there I would be as I would be a background. You know fire bending because it was like I'm not just happened to be in fire. I really just work like the grocery store and I just have to have the skills. That guy. He's not inherently evil but he is everything he knows about the fire nation has been able to this point. You make a good point but soccer came around way faster than he normally does it took him two episodes to warm up to hang who is not been a fire bender this time he an actual fire bender and he's like, okay, maybe you're good. Garb. Exactly. Yeah but then this guy, he actually I, mean he bows down to them. They know he's kind of nodded enemy here. I thought the door that he enters was pretty cool because like he puts his hand on it and then fire goes around the door line I thought door frame I thought that was pretty cool. The past where they're going is insane isn't it like a million stabs fire? Yeah. All it a spiral staircase. Look good some straight out of an inception or like a movie like that. Honestly. Yeah. Yeah. It is definitely crazy. I've always wanted to have one of these secret doors though and being able to open it with fire bending would just be the most bad ass thing. That that'd be so cool to have in your home that word. was used for it would be opening doors in the house. Right Practical stuff playing pranks on people leaving door handle a little harder than normal. That's I wonder I wonder if you like instantly enlisted in the military and all your vendor good. We have a place for you. You just staying at home doing magic for the people in the neighborhood. Properly high fire vendor and the fire hide my bending ability to bill. Yeah. I've never been that in my life little on joined the war screw that. It's fair I. Think it's funny. So as we see, hang in the rest of the team Avatar up with this fire sage, he asked the fire sage. If he knows Avatar Roku, which is rude because he's been gone a hundred years, which means that he thinks this guy is over a hundred and twelve years old like you're ask people about your age that's that's inappropriate. Not, even rude like this guy look a hundred things though like an old portly chat, but he didn't look like you've pushed one hundred until learn your manners don't be asking that. Ends Twelve. Said this before you know children everyone is a million years old. How old autumn I, in there like a hundred million and so. Do you. Do you know do you know? And fifteen years ago maybe, and so that's that's funny. I didn't even realize that. Shy You just doesn't skip a beat and he talks about how his GRANDPA was friends with. Roku reveals that the sage is basically became jaded wants the Avatar did not return and all of them besides him pledged loyalty to the fire nation. Yeah so Sad time. My question is I think. Cher you says. I've been waiting for you to come new you're on the way. So I was prepared to betray these other sages. How did he know? What did I miss something? Yeah I think they mentioned it years well, basically when. I went into the Avatar st episode three. A bunch of like when he wanted to Avatar state is in numerous statues across the world started glowing and that included Avatar Roku whose statue here it's is started glowing which basically signal to the fire sages that the Avatar has returned and that's why everyone in the world is now aware that the avatars back alive. But this guy seemed like he was preparing even before then you know staying loyal to the Avatar. It's almost like he was like ready for this like you know. Like it was almost became like a religion like, oh, the Avatar will return one day and save us. That's what it seemed to me. Is that what you're saying so no. Short term like he made it sound like someone called and said, you were flying over here. Yeah I knew your comings is ready uptaking. He's thinking you know Oh, anxious to hear about tomorrow. Other village called and said, he's coming. So we're ready because he did he did he wasn't prepared to put betrayed them at the drop of a hat. So it's either he's been preparing for this moment his whole life or you know tipped him off. Now and that's a that's a good point you bring up Jacob to. This guy, let's see he kicks the bucket before the Avatar returns he's been waiting all that is all life or this one moment, and it does even happen like that sock that it'd be. Guessing I think that's like. Cubs fans wanting a world series for a hundred years. They just were holding on for hope. Terrible Spell. You know someone sent a messenger pigeon like Oh hey this guy will be here on this date this time and and that's why the old man back in the first time it was like go like my messenger pigeon says. He's GonNa, make me. Oh So. then. We come to the next scene. It's Zuko an Iro again is this this little short-sea nothing really happens here zuko decides to go alone. So Zhao can't track him and then Iro silently disapproved he doesn't say anything British like. Like you just see like an old aunt just like shaking his head and just being like not. At first I thought you meant the bug and I was like an old and. Having age but. Like an like an Auntie. I'm back I'm back. Thank you. Short little detour. The next thing. The next thing we see is that. Team avatars reaching this giant fire door and the fire sages are pretty stupid like they know where trying to get to. So if you're trying to play defense and capture the flag, all you have to do guard the flag. Spread out and find him just go to where he's going to be I. Don't know felt like it's pretty trivial to find out where he was going to show up. So they really dropped the ball on good point I didn't even think of that but you're absolutely right. Why would you not just guard the door? Yeah. Seems easy like I solved. It made me my age making loyal to fire file or does I and we're good we'll capture. You're in the perfect nation you're right I'm evil. I'll take it. So, they see this door is really cool. It's like this magnificent door it's got the five dragon heads and how you open it. You have to fire banded in the mouth of each dragon at the same time. So requires a five fire vendors at once or I guess one super powerful fire bender maybe can do it by himself of IRA was just pulling up here. You could probably open this door by himself, but because nobody can really they don't have five powerful fire benders. What soccer comes up with a brilliant plan where he decides to craft these little explosives with lamp oil I think an animal skin casings, and then he puts one in each of the Dragon. It was actually a good plan I was. Kinda. Surprised just didn't work honestly. whereas. And stuff it was this Qatar is like monopoly patch. Idea where he got all these employees her like bottomless. From because, you're right I, don't. I think instead of Guitar, we actually have Mary poppins. Is We need she's just like Oh yeah. Here right. My Pouch like sardines, Bhagat, animal skins were ready. It was a decent plan spoiler alert. I am a huge soccer fan I when I when watched the show the first time, I couldn't really decide where my where I would like stand as. Kind of like, Oh, well, maybe I won't be just like a normal person with a boomerang. For the sake of exercise I went with fire but I think, I, think this is one of the soccer I like moments of brilliance even though it doesn't work and anger anger. To let us know that it doesn't work in his not genius at all. L.. Sounds like a good plan to me. Because his his goal is to replicate the power of fire been by creating like firebomb you know and the sage said that. Fire vendors have to do this simultaneously or the Avatar has to do it and what you were saying Zach is there maybe there's somebody. Just pass just powerful enough who could do it as well. Maybe Uncle Iro, but I'm thinking even like fire Larosa on the day of the comment or something would just be able to just you know burn doing door down to the ground. Yeah it almost seems like this door is not just like you have to have like five fire blasts because he does that off a bomb which causes fire it's almost like there's a spiritual walk as well like you need five fire benders to be doing this because. Zach completely right. Like I did expect us to work like soccer's plan is to create fire blasts, which is exactly what you need and it doesn't open. So yeah, I think it I. Think it is like a little more complicated than just like you know the physics of the fire. Chapelle sock down the road will evolve into this great strategist especially with military stuff and there's a I kind of this is the first time we kind of see him actually come up with an ingenious plan. His plans in the episodes prior were not as smart I think. In some of the early episodes. Pointed out how much he grows over the seasons he's the one who shows the most growth of all of them. As far as you know, just character development directed them kind of grow into their own abilities. Goes from being you know super kind of misogynist Yang. You know kind of a very playful. He always remained faithful but as a tactician he. Leaps and bounds better. I definitely would give him the most improved award, but it's not hard when you start off as sexist see does. because. It was so weird because it's like he's not like that at any other point in the series. Honestly as he is in the I, I don't think he's ever that sexist again or that stupid or that's exactly honestly that was weird. But here Don. Zak. Yeah. You know I was just GonNa say their plan work our Qatar actually realizes that the explosive leaving scorch residue it looks like they actually did the door. So when so they put him, they let momo crawl through a moment just on the other side of the door and the fire the fire sages come through and they're like, oh no, they've gone in and then the fire sages just end up opening the door themselves and we get this funny little seed of America's They're like, oh, soccer your plan didn't work all anxious like basically crap in all over sock a here chapelle mentioned earlier. Yeah. I think the dialog here's like all time funny dialogue. So says, how has Sokha Genius has planned? Didn't even work and soccer just throws in come on an letter dream like. And then you know Qatar explains in anxious like did the definition of genius change. In the way he asks that is so biting like it just hurts like when someone said that about me, it really sting at the great insult. Just. Like Oh. Crap on sock you're for no reason I do August Terada like this door that help you get to your goal you'd think anger would be a little more sympathetic to the cause. No, he was in full frustration mode at that point he was just throwing wind at the door. If you watch like fresh. Air Bending Sarah. We've already that's not gonNA work. So, at that point, he wasn't trying to hear he was trying to hear soccer's crap it. Just. I didn't want to get inside. Yeah. Well, Qatar comes up with a great plan to get them inside. So the other five people are the forest fire ages run up and. Are Friendly. Neighborhood Fires Ages able to say like Oh. Hey they're already inside we see the scorch marks and it's so funny. He liked turns like it's like an infomercial he's like and look at the scorch marks and you can see down there. Gore your. Honey. QVC AD or something like he totally sells out goes to cameras. It was perfect but the fire stages all for it. Yeah Great Plan by Guitar and soccer here. Once they opened the door I, thought this dialogue was also pretty hilarious. The open it and they see mobile it's lavatories Labor we've been tricked. Because immediately after he says that Momo just launches an attack and Momo noses so does he use either fire sages as to attack the little battles stars? You're just like, oh, the mobile jobs directly at his hat I thought that was hilarious. So I know Y'all rank battles but can we talk about this quote? UNQUOTE BATTLE? We'll talk about age being. Out of shape but Qatar in soccer instantly manhandled these two grown men I'm talking about hotline Hog, tied almost handling. Virtue is a grown man. This is A. Girl. What is would you? Know I am saying that you should not let year old girl or Boy. Tech, manhandle you like that, and you're you're supposed to be the guardians of the temple they even being. Talk a hop offer behind this pillar the instantly incapacitate two of these fires ages, and the funny part is they're almost like put them in a Wedgie like I. Think it's actually puts like a hood over. Over the guy that. Just, puts his are his back and yet does he give it all give him an opportunity to bed. all-time embarrassment you know the head sage gets beat by a LEMUR. Then to get Kids. Yeah. Terrible. It really is sad. You're on later on A. Commander Zhao will blame all the fire nation's for fires aged for their betrayal even though it was only that one sage who betrayed them you. But honestly, if I saw that tape back from that I would I would blame them to really try. Everybody everyone's going down for this one. We never see these stages again I don't think I could be wrong but Yeah we never see them again if we're to assume that they've been punished like if you look at that imprison episode, the Guy Got Week and solitary confinement for just were just doing something very mundane. So imagine the punishment these fire sages must've got after basically taking this huge L. at the hands of these children. Yeah. If you get a week for coughing I, Bet you get a lifetime for this. Someone could play the tape bag. That's so funny. It's like you know coming in like Monday after a loss like showing the game tape and being like this. This is what you lost. A. Man That's terrible. So right is saying is supposed to you know go in after they tee kayode all of these people we see the Zuko captured him. Pretty dramatic reveal here like I know Zuko was coming in but I didn't actually expect this the first time I watched it. The ZUKO IS GONNA. have an was the surprising to either of you? Yeah, I didn't remember I did to remember that happening here. Honestly when it happened I kind of gasped because you know. We know this is goals driving. You know energy this is all he's here for to catch catch and so in a moment, you're so worried about the sages that you don't even think. You almost forget Zuko is chasing after them and then they quickly you realize it's not even the big issue when that ominous clap starts and it turns out, you know he's been followed by General House. So it's all it's all like one cat and mouse chase after the next. Episode. I think in to give them a little bit of credit here. It's well-paced because then they actually we haven't seen Zuko for a little while so I was Kinda like Chapelle. Forgot this happened and I forgot Zucca was coming through and yet he's going to capture and here. But AMAS, able to just kick Zuko down the stairs similar and then he's like basically went to leap over the fire sages in the nick of time under you guys noticed. So when Zuko and Zhao comes the fire sages that it's hard on soccer have are basically able to reverse their little arms. Able to get kids are soccer in like a little hole basically but I don't know why they didn't just do that right away kit. Growing in. Other grow. And then so I know Zach. We've been building out like our best basketball team I think hang makes it a pretty good leap here. You know he he shows that he can jump to. He jumps right through the door right in time clutch leap to get into the room I think we can put him at least on the bench for now I think you could put hanging the starting lineup he might be the star player because we're talking. We were talking about verticals of Zuko and boom. But if you look at it and the fact that he's a Arab Bender, ICAN? Like just Vince Carter leap over anybody pretty much like we see Ang numerous times he just jumps like twenty feet in the air routinely even episode three where when he's chasing moment was scaling a cliff so I think we definitely, I, don't know of eggs on the badge I think he's starting he might be our star player. I like the idea that you know a little guy young kid from a foreign land he's kind of like deluca of the and. He's. He's so fast. He's so fast and when he's running from this ages and earlier episode, he's just like. You know like sometimes he runs up and down the walls and all kinds of so yeah, hang. Anger definitely a star player for sure. Don't even shooting the ball might be easy for him to what the air bending but you know he's definitely ducking on everybody. That's not gonNA even easy. Not. That's where he differs from. Luca. Lucas a little slow in comparison I know your math and. That's my. Great. Player not the best athlete. Yeah he's. He's a little. It can be in better shape. If you follow me on twitter, you will see me routinely. cyberbullying Luca. I think this with all my heart, but I really want him to be better. We're down you're GONNA see like the tweet at Luca. Me For me all the time he's one day I promise. He will know I think. That you're motivating him just like uncle I rose like motivating zuko actually give a little inception deluca instead of telling them what he's doing. Wrong like let them let them know that you support him in guide them gently in in Septum to be the best athlete I have to put that on my to do this. Thank you. Nice offseason project. So. AMEX it to the Roku statue room and he basically he begs roker to appear and roker just does it's kind of funny and meditate like he doesn't kneel down put as like I, do his hand he doesn't even call. He please broke I need your then Rocca just shows up. That's pretty convenient. Honestly. Yeah and then Roka's like nice to see you angry. If someone is yelling for me, I would be like, can you hold on a minute like I'm busy like you're not my priority buddy rokos kind of he's got a weird like that too because he he angle with the what took you. So long basically and he's like well Roka we've been outside the door for an hour trying to get in. Open the door because now the sages are outside and they're trying to fire been the door open and they're like, oh, no roku locked the door. Roku could lock the door. What did he just open? What is the problem? We're? You know we're out here. Steaming how you knew were coming in you know that is actually a fantastic point. Of this myself if he can lock the door, he can unlock it like you know drew a good. To be fair the light hadn't hit his is at that point and I think that's when he's at his most powerful and he can like the stuff. We'll see him do take control angus star fire bending whereas prior to that I don't know if you had the power to be opening and lock in these doors I don't know who knows maybe you just down the whole time and just wanted to test A. Quick, quick tangent, do you do any of you know what Roku means? No I have one of those for like my TV. A, famous company now, which like came after this episode. So I wanted to see if there's any connection between Avatar Roku and like the word Roku apparently just means six in Japanese, and the reason why the company is called six because the guy who founded it anthony would has made five. Days he just called this one six in Japanese. It really took the mystique away from the name like I thought Roku was like a really cool name but he's just he's just calling it six. We got these boring names even last step we had the we had. Hey by the spirit would just meant black and white. These boring unoriginal names and avatars even though they sound cool. 'cause just in a floor like roku is a cool sounding word that we're Japanese just like a boring and that somebody's just make six that's kind of. A man, the name, my kids six, and the dog is going to be named Blue-green. Easy. Yeah. It kinda makes me WanNa like dive into the origins of all the names now right. So because we now now know we have like black wide and we have six address I. Really WanNa know you know if we're missing you know what is Momo who? In what was the show Dragon Bazi right Goku names as he names Gohann Rice. I think he has a daughter named Pan, which I think is Spanish. Is Brad. So really at this point, I really Kinda WanNa know. Who's doing these translations are who's picking these names very. Serious question for me at this I really WanNa know. That's a great point. I'll do some research agenda look up these names because I always think I'm like Oh. These are so cool I. Wonder What this means I type it into Google translate, and I'm like it mean six or we sure like. And then like last week was like black white like that's not very clever. But Yeah so Maybe Momo. Like Lemur, who knows it could be? Means the Bouma high. That's I. Think. So after we see hanging Roku talk a little bit, we get back to the real world. Brazil goes interrogating the person saying like, why did you turn and the commander Zhao walks in and it's like Oh this perfect. Not only do I have one person who's banished. But what I have another one which like the zuko getting no credit for helping capture the fire sage like I feel like you should get something like a ribbon maybe because he's banished. So he's not even allowed in fire him coming back and fire nation territory a crime, and like whiz tablets earlier, his own father hates it has no. Like no Zuko gets no credit for his father pretty much. The, we give them like a bronze medal like something. He got a slow clap from Jiao. Clip that was A. The voice actor for he does such a good job with all the lines he just comes across. So evil, you just hate him every time he opens his mouth does very good job. In this moment, I'm though I'm worried about team. Avatar because although anger. Inside the the locked door having his spiritual moment Roco, these kids are just outside with these grown people. Stop in jail from being like well, execute them, and then we'll move on. So we get very blessed. This is a children's Khartoum. Alive, action adult. So this on HBO, those gives a date. Of Happy. They made it. Does not. Or Continue Jacob we're lucky that lovecraft, HBO show and Avatars. The children showed you flip them then these kids. Yeah. Look there's no instant executions in the Avatar universe because we see them captured many times but they're never like Oh let's execute. May maybe track the net amount of time they get tied up over the seasons I guarantee. It's probably not nothing shy of one hundred at least they've already been tied on Multiple Times. Even prior to this, we can certain execution counter. Shout to the lovecraft pod. We can say like all the times, where if this was lovecraft, they would just begun like no more. Perfect. Yeah Well, we'll add that one. Cool yeah, and then so we cut back to Roku he's talking. And he saying Oh I, sent my dragon to find you and he's visit explaining. But this is why he's holding this meeting with anger. So so Zain's comet sows in being the first fire Lord or like Os is grandfather think Susan's comet basically help them launched the first attack. It's this comet that gives that give fire benders in saying fire bending strength. And it helps them start the war one hundred years ago, and that comment is returning by the end of the summer. An ozone will use that comet to basically end the war, win it for the fire nation unless amd stops in before the summer ends now they're pretty big bomb to drop on a twelve year old kid honestly rug head off Brang here. Yeah like. You know this is a lot of responsibility like he's told like you know usually you get years to master the elements. You have a few months. Good luck. You got to the end of the summer. Kid. Or else. But if you're, he prefaced it with. Mastering the elements takes years and years and years. And hangs is I I just know how to air and he said well. He's like. All the other elements in like six months. How Fun Point him to any reputable sources. He didn't say, Hey, there's a lady at the Earth Kingdom who might be able to help you out you just say, well, that's it. Yeah he's if you ever need me, you know how to find me. which is still confusing. Roku, sex. Is In the best mentor definitely economy just leaves anger the dark and and House to figure out everything himself pretty much. But. Then Roku rogue does offer some assistance you know. Roku. Says all these people outside that are about to you know. About to take you and you're about to be screwed, you can't this room but you know I can help you out and we hear hangs weird distorted voice be like I'm ready. Off. Goes these mode on these people like this does not qualify as a fight. We're not GONNA ranking. This one is one-sided just open fire everyone's dead like crazy true and this this had really don't music because they basically, they have those this orchestral music when Ang. Broker talking, and then they cut back to job, and then this, you just hear this tribal chanting and it's like Jazz, John Telling, his manager unleash all your firepower. Once this door opens and then rogue of question a question for this moment is is a. So, Adverti-. Goes into Avatar state. He has these magnet like these crazy powers sometimes, he turns into spirit sometimes he you know he he can like merge what fishes and. Stuff my question is was this apart of the Avatar state like him just projecting Roku or Roku. Actually like you know like out handle this one and then you can take over from here. Was this like a power that the Avatar advertised eight I think he's kind of both of them. So ROKA was basically like I'll take over from here but he what he does he basically in Avatar state re it's a spiritual reincarnation of roku takes over for a little bit like basically roku spirit comes out here and is able to just. Decimate these fire nation members. You Jacob what do? We see something pretty similar actually whenever keough she's on trial and Kiyoshi takes over Ang's body and it's like I did it I'm guilty. Episodes, but like yeah, I think the other avatars can be like actually hold on. Let me have these fifteen seconds of fame wrote quickly. Let me let me go back on earth. Let me see how that one's like. So I think it is like kind of like Roku body I mean we know that they are reincarnations here. So I think it is Roku who who like absorbs all of the firepower coming at you and it's just like boom you're gone even evaporates chains, which is like absurd. I think it's pretty cool. I'm so used to advertise state being angry. Levitating and just you know decimating whatever, and then this he just has like a patroness. Broke. I got it. You just hang out back here, and then you know he does Roco handles the he's gone anxious standing there. Glowing. So I didn't know if this was a product of the habits day or maybe just roku kind of you know being hit in his bag a little bit. Yeah. This is by far the coolest scene in the episode roker just very tall I noticed compared to everybody gets spirit. Of Roku, he's like eight feet tall he's towering over all these guys fire bed digging just shoots like ten blasts at all of the and then the thing is though one thing I don't understand why does Roku to destroy the temple couldn't he have? Just have beaten these guys and just okay and team Avatar on your way Nice. I'll take these guys out for you but instead he's like I'm GonNa take down the temple to which I don't know puts hanging them in danger Kinda doesn't not they get lucky OPPA. Comes through and saves them one last time but. I had the same I think the thinking for Roku, is all these people are supposed to protect my honour but these people are really just millions of the fire Lord. I would rather not have a temple at all. Then have a temple that's used for evil. That's probably right and. You know again. Are Mvp of the episode I'm planning my flag he comes in and saves the day 'cause they're definitely gonNA tight spot. These people run into magma almost like daily and here it is like magma and the the buildings falling apart and there's an earthquake and there's ocean below and luckily we have to. PUT, everybody literally put the team on his back and home and save the day. Didn't even call for him to it's like he just him and Momo just new because they've been. Through. So basically, ANC feigns after he goes into. Avatar. State Qatar and soccer save him and they're about to like fall off the building because everything just cracking with this earth quick and you're all just flies through then you guys probably notice Momo's a fire nation helmet while he's flying. Is Little. I don't know where he fouled that or just had it. I think he stole it from the fire safety attack he all time which I think is funny. See how we see we see team Avatar escape, and then we cut back to commander show who is Blaming, all of these fire sages saying like you know all of you are traitors they say, no like just one of us was a traitor. He as injury says I don't care. This is not justice like what are we've already went over this? I told you he'd saw the tape, he's the foot. These children I just I like how they flipped on on. Are you so quickly say Y'all traders? No, he's a traitor. My job little girl is strong. That's a that's fair. Yeah. But commander Zhao takes them to never be seen again. Yeah. Yeah. And those guys rest in peace fire stages they're probably still in solitary confinement. Some something like that. Maybe they actually were executed I think they should be but. I'd. Say the mortgage, the executed you were Lucknow award is Dr. I would never get on Zack's bats. Do He's evil warded putting people in solitary confinement for coffee. Killed these sages for big call for it. I think I think that might say something about me you know I value you. Value in competence or evaluate someone being competent more than someone being if you're. But you have to be competent if not, you're on my bad side. I. Should Be. In Europe buyer. Surprised by that, take a couple of weeks ago all this. Jacob. Into slithering in the Dungeons Harry. Potter World 'cause we. We we've value we we, definitely GONNA turn turn a blind people being evil but you're getting beat up by these kids I can't respect it. You get beat up by a kid you're done. So you're out. MAKE THEM TO THE CURB I think that's about it from the episode. Any any final thoughts on the episode? No I thought this episode honestly talking it over with you guys kind of made me enjoy it more than I actually enjoyed it when I was watching it. This is there's a lot of funny little character moments they have here. I just thought the plot itself was kind of slow. The second half with episode was definitely stronger than the first half until the naval battle was kind of boring. But once they actually get to the fire temple I thought kind of picked up from there. But overall, not a terrible episode we'll get better episodes down the line, but it was pretty good. Yeah. Yeah I agree. I Agree I. Think the Pacing Zach said earlier that it was really it kind of moves quickly. So it's a boring episode, but it doesn't feel like it's a long episodes. It's a lot. There's a lot of storytelling going on. The backstory. The the series ended of itself is not linear, right? So they're even moving toward thousands, comment there they they spent a lot of episodes doing you know slash bags and you know so in other people's perspective of of of the past and so I think this was a lot of that is a lot more of that to come for sure but. This wasn't. I complained about it. I might have said it was boring but it will. Be All about it for sure. So Wouldn't have will. Yeah I like I like this episode, I think it does well to set up the main plot of the entire series. And Yeah I think we can hop into a little bit of listener feedback now as always you can right into Avatar at Po show RECAPS DOT com. Or tweet US at show recaps. Erin wrote in and said that Momo has to be the. MVP FOR BEING SMART enough to be in a position of full of fire sages and OPPA was able to fly faster than gravity acceleration of Sokha. Good. Overall showing for the animals I think, yeah, we agreed the MVP of this episode definitely the animals. report. Is. Definitely like the true MVP like. opposite. The Michael Jordan. Scottie Pippen to him. As a comparison, I'd make because yeah, moment is a good job. Especially, he attacked launches the attack on the fire sage. OPPA literally, and figuratively put the team on his back in this episode. So like Chapelle said, he's definitely the MVP in my eyes agreed. Arjun writes in says if you choose any animal to be your spirit guide, what would it be Chapelle? What animal would you want? Okay. So my question is the the spirit guide has to be like a vending type spirit guide like you know, how operas the Air Bendon spirit like kind of you know the origin story of the air they come from the the bisons right and then the earth vendors have those badger. Moles. Right. and. Then the fire the firemen does have the dragon and what are the water. Will they have the moon which is like a little bit hard to ride around on? As I. Legend of course spoiler. But they got a little polar bear. Dog. Yeah, but I I think you can pick anything you can pick any animal well, chorus polar bear dog is pretty cool. I'M NOT GONNA lie but but it's not as functional as because fly and African AIRBNB. So that kind of helps so. GimMe the UNIGATE. noggin not. A. Dragon and I was like although not be useful to because it's it can breathe water instead of fire like. A host. Yeah that's a good choice. Yeah. Better than a polar bear dog for sure I think I would go with like a Lion Eagle Mix Griffin That'd be cool like I feel like I'm back in sixth grade reading all these like mythical books again. That's. Griffin is A. Russian. That's weird choice for a slithering Jacob I might have to take our badge back restaurant. Made it you can see what the Griffin doors now. No. Take it all back. We're cutting this part of the podcast back. Give me a snake. I want and that's a that's a good question about the spear because like you know angles. Penguin. Surfing. SLEDDING THOSE I. Those penguins those was really didn't Look Like Ping me like Dad. I. kind of like. Almost like cats. autres almost I don't know exactly what? Nelson fore flippers to there's weird. Normally when you have the hybrids, they call him by the hybrid name. Badger. Mole or something and platypus Bayer I. Think. In this one, they got like Oh penguin. Penguin. So maybe one of those like cool penguin will be cosplaying guy if you were in the North Pole or something, you know you kind of want to have your spirit guide functions where you are. Is What. PHILIPPI WRITES IN AND ASKS IF WE'RE BIG INTO SOLAR EVENTS LIKE A. Our full moons, and if we have any cool club stories from the eclipse that may be happened years ago. I know the clips he's talking to you years ago I remember because I was at work and everyone is so into it and I just couldn't care less longest. You're like eleven o'clock. It was Kinda hot it was in the summer or like. Our I wasn't into to. Tell I'm not. I'm not big into those moments I like them so like when somebody says. Oh let me go you know get those special glasses so I can look at it or mean track it, but it never goes any further than that I guess in in the Avatar world, it would be very important to keep up with these things because they mean a lot right so the winter solstice is the shortest day of the year, and so they had that was this episode right with yourself into and so. They had to make sure they got this done within the time that they they had it, and then same thing with the summer solstice the longest day of the year and this comic coming in and so and any eclipse could benefit the water nation. You know if the moon is the moon is in front of the sun water nation is like getting power and the earth stations just aren't they should so against the. Depending on. What Time Is. Very. Good thing to track. Spread definitely definitely in the avatar universe eclipses matters so much more. You know it's not just like a cool thing to watch friends like life and death strand. The clip from a couple years ago. Jacob. Do you remember what your? So I watched it with my family in Georgia, and we were like up on a mountain and it was really cool because. We could see so far in the distance that we couldn't see the sun if we looked up. But if you looked out over the mountain, you can see where the sun still was shining. So it wasn't ever totally dark mostly dark that was really cool. It felt like creepy but was it was pretty fun. Yeah and then we got a question from Audrey that I liked in the question threat. She asked if you could transform into any person like an did with Roku to beat up a group of people who would you ask I guess we'll make this, so you can be fictional or non fictional whoever you want essentially. This is hard because if you say you can be you know fictional the he's was in a bad choice. Group. Of. I don't know there's so many options. If you say fictional option, you can pick a mutant like professor extra or something like that. Or magneto. That'd be fun. I guess if I had a real person like Mike Tyson. Are Wailing, on people. Like Ivan Drago with somebody who else thinking of where just like he's just doing all those Russians steroids and you take off a person's head with one punch that'd be cool transforming to him just knock and dudes out the garbage part. Okay. Now you're the one on the podcast here. If he dies, he dies. Yeah I was thinking you know if it can be fictional. GimMe a lightsaber. Put me in the Star Wars Universe like I'm out like no one's like especially with real life weapons like what are you? GonNa do I Can like slice you in half. DORF vader force choking. A good choice, your John What. Going to, be, sitting there. I also had another question from Audrey. She said much like anger I feel like we've all experienced being locked out not being able to get in your house or vehicle do any of you have good funny stories of being locked out of. I do. I'll. I'll take it from here. I got locked out of my house before my both my my family was asleep for some reason, nobody was answering the door. So what I had to do to climb on my balcony and I live in a pretty affluent I lived in a pretty affluent area at the time and apparently somebody saw me climbing my balcony and assumed also robbing my house. Well, it's funny that I'm pretty outta shape so to do, I'd like. To do with this whole like makeshift at a tile hose, it's a non ojos stepping the. Hose. Around the bottom of my box the. Decline. And then I was also proud of myself because actually climbed on my sister's balcony and I was like I. Hope this open because all this work it it is an open that sucks but it was open and I made it. It's very happy. Live in a Sitcom. That is incredible. I have a story. This is. Kind of on topic. Okay. So bear with. Ever like myself out of my home. When I was in school at a free at a friend who was in a class and the teachers assignment was due at midnight said, this has to be on my desk at midnight and so my friend calls me like ten thirty and says, we have to go tournament. Is US no way you're getting into your teachers office at ten thirty? PM. And she's like well, we gotta track otherwise I'M GONNA fail and I'M GONNA graduate. With drive to the College Oh, I won't say with Grin. and. We get to the college and of course, it's locked like but there's lights on inside the custodians in there working and there's that other and my friend is having a panic because she was like crying, Oh, I'm not going to graduate and this is a really big deal for her. So I said, well, maybe I can get into one of the side doors. So I jump over the fence. In has joke over another, but I couldn't get over it because I like the way the fence was made. So I had to go under the fence I told you I'm a skinny guy. I was smaller at the time. So you know it was it was it wasn't that hard but it was only a feat I got to the side I tried a couple of doors and I finally got inside the school this custodian just kind of let me in does I guess they figured I'd just to be there because I was looked student I guess maybe, and so because this is a college and. I wonder on the room I, find the women's like secretaries day I can't get into her offers and I'll put on secretaries this and then I have to do the reverse to get out. I didn't know how to get to it. So that is my time of breaking and entering. That was the question. Did you this assignment in your hand while you were hawking this bad Just, it was just a paper like. A term paper type thing and so so I had it. But yeah, it. It was one of my were impressive feats to this day my friend did not fail. was he was able to email the teacher and tell her that she left it with the Secretary on the secretary's desk the the teacher now being able to confirm that just said, okay, it's five and remember graduated. An all time friend. Is. Quite kind of course I. Yeah. Looking back. What were you doing? It I just know like it was such an important big. I didn't think twice. But yeah, looking back. Yeah. Don't do that. If you're listening to this, don't do that. What about you Jacob do you have a story like that? I was trying to think of one I probably shouldn't say this on the podcast. But if you're listening to this podcast, you're legally allowed to rob me I do not lock my house. So I've never been locked out of anywhere like I would lose any key that I brought. So instead I like have never lock my house like. A child, the back door was always unlocked like my parents leave the house unlocked. I've never had a key that I've kept up with. So yeah, you can just walk in. My listening by listening to this podcast you must. You are not allowed to rob me but you could always just walk into whatever house I am. You must live in a very nice area because I lived in some places in fact, almost every place I've lived in I don't think I could leave the door unlocked. Of they're going to. Be too nervous to leave leaving any door lock, we used to leave the back window unlocks. Climb in. So I don't feel like most people are checking the back window but. There's someone did they can have my stuff. If you're going to climb in my back window, then you can take it. If worth that much effort to you then you must really want it. mainly. It's just like I would be locked out every single day. I would have hundreds of these stories if I actually locked my house. So if any burglars are listening Jacob. Has a door that has five dragon heads on it and you're going. To get it to please, do not try to Rob Jacob because you have the technique or the steady hands to pull off a procedure like that McKay. Yes. Exactly. That's that is correct. Yeah. I do actually have to go into the Avatar state everytime training outs. It's it's quite taxing once I get home I'm ready to go to bed. Yeah, it's it's. A Lot. Now. Rankings for this episode, I was GonNa Have Lydia give her quick little role. Yeah. How could I forget about? Lydia's corner with her great feedback. So yes, Sir you know. Liz My girlfriend she likes to write in these nice little rant questions. So this I think pretty funny. So she writes that Zuko follows anger by using a relatively small telescope to find and follow a giant Bison in the sky yet commander Zhao thinks he has to follow Zuko to find an. Jau is embarrassed by this. Did He lose his telescope? Does he think it's a coincidence that whenever zuko whenever he sees Zuko, there's a bison in the sky who made him a commander. It's honestly a miracle. The fire nation not been beaten in one hundred years if it's commanders rely on a navigation and deductive reasoning skills of a child. So. Yeah. Like why doesn't Zhao just follow the Bison instead of following the kid following the Bison? Yeah. That's a very good point by Lydia. I didn't even think of this and I read her email earlier in house like that's a very astute observation on her part on because it's true. That makes no sense why agile doesn't just tale like how how could you not tell it's a flying bison in the sky. There's not factors probably only one in the universe. And he just instead he has details, Ouko? He doesn't have a telescope for some reason you'd think with all the resources he doesn't have to resort to stink bombs compared to Zuko and Yuko Somehow Ellis scope and he doesn't it's kind of weird. What about your favorite? My favorite part of the question is you rights do you think Zhao is embarrassed by? This? Is My favorite part to his great. You think he's embarrassed is probably ashamed. I would be and then look I. Mean you know. The leadership at the top seems to not be great and it's echoed in his in his sages because they can barely beat these kids up in a fight. So have you got JAU JAL leading the charge to catch the Avatar by following Zuko who? Even Zuko. So thinks he's incompetent can't pulled his off. was. Were putting his livelihood on the live for this I feel like it's going to come back to bite him. So. I have a really good point. She's she's funny. I like that. So it's opened incompetent because he made 'cause lydia she's like why you made Jau Commander is and it probably was Os Iris you and does he screw up by making JAL commander when can even out deduce a kid here in Zucca? I think. So honestly, Zula would pick up on these these skills like. A teacher I'm sure she teaches deductive reasoning skills like I feel like Zula's learned this in her classroom I think she'd be able to pick up on what's going down I think ots is just too high up to he's not like bothered with these menial characters and the show these tiny like insignificant people. Who Oh? Yeah. Yeah. Fine. Whatever you know I read his resume. It's fine. whereas a Zula? Yeah she's she's more hands on. So she's probably like the one who's doing the audits and making sure like doing like the performance reviews of the general who though when when did when this when this episode comes across I'd ask he's not going to be happy. When she gets the footage of the fire. Sage. Iraq? Oh Ma, she's going to be hard on Jau. Lightning. Bolt all of them instantly straight to the domes, hit them all as lightning bolts. See. That's GONNA. She, banishes people for less I mean she's having a bad hair day you can get fired so. True that well, yeah that's all we have for the listener feedback. Thank you all so much for writing in. We really do appreciate it just as a reminder you can always right into Avatar at share recaps dot com I love going through the suggestions in emails. It's like it's a great part of my week. So keep writing in. Yes. Same and the feedback. This week was really good. Thanks to everybody who wrote in I appreciate it. Cool. So let's get to our episode rankings. Maybe we can start with the audience who is pretty high on this episode. Just, as a brief reminder, we're giving scores between zero in four cabbages will average scores and that'll be our fiscal hang in there ranking. So the listeners this week gave the episode, a three point, six, four. Oh, my God right that's high. Especially honestly liddiard surprised by her score she gave it three point seven four. Of Four and Lydia scored sub in my opinion good episodes law lower. So that's got a surprise listeners a whole surprise me this week. We had a bunch of people writing in with like pretty high scores. I was I was impressed that they liked more than Omasu. I believe. So yeah, my God I. Disagree. With even episodes in season one if not my favorite episode of season one though Masha episode. Yeah. Yeah. But that's A. Super high on this Chapelle do you to give your ranking from zero to four? I think the last. I WANNA. Say Zach. Gave it a two point nine. That feels about right for me maybe honestly in the grand scheme of the season then maybe I could give it a three probably probably. But for me knowing what's coming and knowing what you know all the highs that we have I mean there are some really really good episodes coming up that. Even, like the last stretch of episodes before you know shoe episode and the Air tipple episode Kyoshi island is a good episodes. So I can't give this episode of three go with two point nine. Out of in the same line of thinking is ship Pill I. do think this episode is better than last week and I gave last week's two point nine and after talking through the episode, you guys that there are some moments that were pretty funny in the episode to argue this get three point two that's. So. I gave the episode three point. One I think this week is a bit better for sure like I think you know there's more funny gags. I feel like we get. Some decent characters at least get a fire sage that has you know somewhat nuanced. Life instead of just like the random NPC's from last episode that seemed boring. So I think it's a better. I'm also giving this a three point two and that will leave this episode at a three point two three. I'm yeah this is this is the highest episode from the audience. We're not so high on it, but overall like it was a good episode I think it was it was fun to talk for sure. Cole was. So. Now, do we jump into our fantastic for some segment here Jacob I thought it was taught quattro. Better. Lino. Lane suggested this week that we call this the been tastic for and I think we should just keep changing the segment every week. Why settle on one name like let's just keep changing it up I like allied. So. We. Better than quattro bed or whatever we had. No. Yeah. So We're we're. GonNa we're GONNA put incredible. That's because they gotta Ez their place to bending styles who do you want to start with? Jacob out this four. Let's Mr incredible himself. I think I think this one's clear. I think Bob Parr Insurance Salesman extraordinaire. That's what he does. Right? That's been a job. I don't know. Yeah. Anyway. I think he's the earth. Bender. Brute strength. He's like big hulking strong. I. Think he's the Earth Bender. Do you agree? Yeah Free like he's pretty calm I feel for the most part. He's level headed. He's the leader of this group and he's also incredibly strong and yeah, I think he's earth better make sense out of the four people in the family him and I guess it lasts to grow through their like not as emotional especially compared to their children who are more driven by their emotions. Yeah I had A. Bender as well. Now, what am I chapelle wouldn't when you first her credible? What do you think of him? Do you think he's bender. My mind automatically went to art just because when I think of the earth vendors at least like. kind of like a muscular ones the strong winds I always go my mind always goes to talk when she's in the fight right when she's doing like the rest of the pro wrestling thing and Mr, incredible he's just fits right into that mode of just you know I'm going to stand here and throw rocks at you as opposed to like I mean could you imagine him as a water been? DO THAT DOES LOOKS UPSET or an air vendor easily like. Off Water Benders or Air Benders at least not that I know of don't show any in the course of the series. There's There's some above water benders but to be an urban, you gotta be light on your feet and Mr. Incredible. He's coming in three bills like this man huge. He's like a boulder in and of itself. So if he's he's like flying with glider I feel bad for whoever he hits he's more like. End. In. Sight of Bob Parr. Fly. Gliders. On as my ear bedroom now because that's Just message on. The. Dash, what did you guys have for guests chapel and we did did we tell you? We're GONNA. Do they're credible before the show? I don't know if your time to prep for no no, you didn't tell me but I listened to last week show and so I kind of felt like like I should prepare for this. The problem is that I've talked myself in and out of Dash for us a couple of times. So at first I was like, Oh, dash is kind of fiery go with fire I like I like dash a lot and you know. I started to watch and kind of the way he moved and nobody is faster than an. When he when he runs with the with the air bending, he's like, I, say he's upside down and around and all over the place and so I really he's kind of dashes young and lighthearted. He kind of reminds me of anger is personalities I'll at least. There's a little bit more aggressive than for sure but he's also a child and so for that I was kind of torn between fire and air. Initially, I want we're fire. So I was thinking dashes the fire bender here I think that he shares a lot of traits with anger. But I think that the way that like dash differentiates himself is that he's like really a hot head I think. He's very brash. He kind of does his own thing and he's like a show off as well and I feel like these are traits to hang has but their trades amas because he's a kid and I think if ing was a bit older and more mature, he would not necessarily have all these like fire bender esque traits. So I have dashes my fire bender but I do actually see a lot of similarities between. Between and Dash for sure. Yeah, and the thing with with. With the Arab benders, the air nomads, their monks. And there's no word is ever going to be a month. I bender as well. I agree with everything guys are saying with the comparison between amd Dash, but I think one of the differences is dash very eager to battle very eager to get into the FI especially when they first show up on syndromes island dash like super excited to be like sprinting and like fighting these robots who as saying is more pacifist at heart like he doesn't really want to unless it's absolutely necessary and I think that's one of the key differences in its y ahead egg or dash as our fire better minxing. So Zach what do you have for a last a girl? Girl I had her as our water better I. Think what we've talked about water benders. It's to me at least it's the most versatile bending style and I think out of the foreign credible elastic girls got the most versatile partners. We see her transform into a boat we transform into a parachute. We do so much stuff with her powers converts everybody else and I feel like she's also the mom of the group kind of Qatar is she's the most level headed of this group by far and so yeah, I think jus pretty easy to peg as our water bender. What about you guys? I kept going back and forth on this. Last girl is like so much like reed Richard's like the fantastic four mister. Fantastic. He's Super Flexible I. Think on that one we gave. Mister fantastic the Aravinda role. So it like I really was going back and forth year I. Think you make some good points act that you know Alaska girl she is very versatile like you know she uses her body in different ways like the abode parachute I think like at one point she's like cars like some. Maybe I've made this up completely fight in my in my mind she's like. A motorcycle at one point or maybe she writes one that would make a lot more sense anyway I I feel like she does have that versatility. She might fight kind like an urban nerve but her personality is kind of like the water bender where like you know she she will lash out she does struggle with balancing her emotions and I think when she bounces her emotions that's where she strongest. See I can I can definitely see that argument Chapelle where you on this one. I'm with you I'm torn. Initially I was thinking, you know water. But in thinking about it, you know when you when you point out that she turns into like a parachute wouldn't that be very beneficial for an urban. Like she could, she could own glider but. I think if I had to pick I'm leaning toward water because she's just. Like our power. And water bending it could be is it can be watering you know whatever? The. Yeah blood bending he gives her a lot of a lot of depth to her powers. But. Part of me thinks it'd be cool to see are flying around a and I think that she could basically turned ourselves into you know like a glider and go if he was AIRBNB. So I think it's less about where we're going to put her and more about where you WANNA put. Violet? Maybe, we can talk a little bit about violet. So where do we see her I? Think the way that she fights is like a little bit of a pacifist fighting like she's not as aggressive. You know she does she is like you know creating force fields and becoming invisible and she does attack people. But I, feel like it's often like the sneak attack like do the least amount of harm to get out of there. So I feel like she kinda fights like an air bender. Yeah. What do you guys think? Yeah. I think her fighting style was more of an air bender but personality style. I kinda found tough to peg as an exact bending type and it was kind of like she struggled the most everybody else I could kinda put in a slot but her and Alaska girl as well. These are the two hours Kinda struggling with violence very. Reserve she doesn't really talk about anything with her family to watch like the first movie she likes a boy but then she doesn't really talk about it until it's like Kinda laid, and then she has embarrassing little thing where their family. So I don't it's kind of trouble peg in her in exacts law but I put her as my ear bender. That's why I eventually settled. Her Defensive Fighting Style and stuff and made her seem pretty angry. Yeah. I agree. I think air is kind of where it goes. Even when she does her force field things Kinda like everyone in you know does the little bubble sometimes and so that's that's fun and Yeah Personality Wise. She doesn't really fit the water been. There's definitely you could probably be like an annoyed fire bender. Doesn't have any business in the earth kingdom but. Yeah but Aaron, waters probably where she probably you know say it's the most I think the fighting style just an. Invasive kind of like anger. It's more like what can I throw at you with my wind as opposed to like let me murder you with my win and so let me suck the air out of you. You know stuff like that. So I I agree that violet, she probably has the most power all of them you know as far as the four of them goes but yeah, she's GonNa use it. As a airborne there would. Through. Act Jack is just the Avatar. Jack Definitely. The avatar yeah. So I think that leaves Mr Incredible Earth Bender Dash is the fire bender violent as the Arab bender in a last girl as the water bender. But Jack is the Avatar Felipe wrote in and asks who's Edna Mode and the Avatar Universe I. Think it's tough right? They look alike, they talk alike. Favorites using the. Bowl cuts. Are. What the scrunched up face, that EDNA has. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like maybe it's a blend of tough and soccer comes up with the ideas. Tough comes up at the jokes and I feel like it's. The two of them toughened soccer that Edna Mode, true talk adult work. So that's good at simple. Anger would not pass that. You know wearing his Cape O obviously. For the end of the second for this week Chapelle dearly suggestions of any four sons we should peg into these Bendik types going forward. Oh. My God no. No. Like so far out there and like the like in my mind what are the easiest ones you know I agree? An. Entire does and the fantastic four and these boys are now like he's about to get tougher you guys soon. We. You know we started a segment which sounds like a great idea but you know we have to come up with like sixty of these portions. It's kind of hard. Thankfully thankfully, we do have other people writing in helping. US 'cause I was about the end Aaron wrote in and said, we should do the four humans from Scooby Doo and then scooby as well. I think that's. Two hundred I would have never thought of the Yes. So I think that's what we'll do next week. Thanks Aaron for writing in a few others have suggestions. What work on those I've got to do a little research for some of them I'm not old enough to. Who some of these people are, but you know what we have. To go we'll do them all. Yeah. List of offer being boomers. Now. They're not boomers. I'm just you know I'm a young person. Not Very Cultured I guess I am calling them boomers I apologize. Do you have any final thoughts that's pretty much all this week. That's all I got personal. Thanks so much Chapelle for coming on Do you a plug your twitter your twitter you're hilarious on there Oh my God. Thank you both for having me before I play my twitter I do want to say one thing about Avatar has a series both of them. I want to plug the legend of core and the reason I want to plug it is because I've seen I've seen the criticism of the show on live core gets a bad rep and I think that Cora is a really good avatar. She struggles with certain things but I think for her and for her story she's really good. I think people should look at legend of Cora and expect it to be. The last air bender because it's not, it's not the same show and so if you're looking for Cora to be angry and I'm going GonNa get it but core for what she is and what she goes through I love the story. So that's my plug for whenever you guys start on the second series. After you get to these initial hundred, our sixty episodes of foursomes you go pick a different zone. For the second series. But yeah, I I definitely suggest people go watch legend corpse they haven't but as far as my social media goes, yeah you can follow me at chapels underscore show on twitter that C. H. A. L. S. underscore show and I'm probably on that Tweeden about big brother right now if you don't like big brother, don't worry stop tweeting about it soon because almost over. But Yeah. That's where you can find me. I've been doing a lot of podcast in this week. So I'm sure if you if you haven't heard my name yet, I'll come across something that you're on. Very soon. I should be on the BNB with Mike Ileana talk about big brother a sometime tonight. And I think Tuesday. I'm doing something I. Don't know it's really hard to keep up with all this. But I'm happy to. You for inviting me not very much. For making time for us in your very busy schedule. All these podcasts you came on our rinky-dink little. Avatar. Show. Here's this I really appreciate. Refund. Yeah I've been listening since. We're going to do it I started listening and I was like Oh, yeah I like them because. I like the development of your friendship the podcasting is getting better that is. This podcast house like this is my really good friend Jacob, so I like so. I know. He's making me happier and happier. You know we've become friends over the podcast which is fun and you know it's great to have like a community of people writing in and it's really a great thing. You know we're having people contributing. It's it's a lot of fun hostess so much for coming on like I. Really do appreciate it. It was a great time and let me know if you ever wanted to come back on. Yeah. If there's an exact episode, you WanNa come back on for. Let us know like if you if there's episode, you actually want yeah. I. Think that's it for this week as always you can right into at Avatar at Kosher recaps, dot com or at pusher recaps can't plug in enough also smashed those five stars on Apple podcast just smashing Subscribe Rating Review to hang in there, podcast feed. Feed we have a link now it's post show recaps dot com slash at La. There you'll find are dedicated link and Yeah. 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#119 PERFECTION? It's very overrated

Photography Daily

21:40 min | Last week

#119 PERFECTION? It's very overrated

"Photography daily and spring absolute privilege to photography texts speak up professional portrait photographer and teacher Chris Wing, over the last couple of weeks and I think it's fair to say we've had here comes one of my favorite expressions somewhat of meander when it comes to talking about what authenticity means and you portrayed making the pictures you make say about you even slipped in. Some Shakespeare well today Chris Returns for the final parts of his three-party to talk about a handful of if you will teachings starting with portray making in the time of covert on remembering how the experience may feel for your sitter happens to most photographers they get. So excited the photograph someone that they forget. The other person isn't sharing that excitement we talk about the. Passage of time whether technically photos need to be perfect when actually it's the space, the place in the story that's GonNa. Make your photograph Akiba not the books from which kind I've always found that weathering or Tina or passage of time or the Japanese concept of Wabi Sabi is this kind of beauty which is timeless in a sense because what it does is say What even with those film photographs as you can look at it and even though you know it was captured fifty years ago it will forever be a good photograph on on perfection. We like flaws it seems and our pictures and then favorite movie characters in all great stories there are flaws which make us enjoy the story the character more in it makes it lasts. Always known as teaching and conference speaking on Photography I. Thought it might be worth checking in to see how that Saudi of his work is going my friends say it must be amazing for you and I say well ever since covert hit everything's online education. So it's a space which is very diluted. What is it about pool trade work in throws him as much today as it did the day started. Yeah. Get pursuit of wisdom and that's why portraiture for me in the sense of every portrait session I've done I feel like I've gained something from the subject or the model. Crystal Wig is my guest today MP helping us to spread the word this month in a kindly supporting the show MTV dot com trade thousands of cameras and lenses every week across. Europe and the US they check and grade and they photograph every single item. I know I've told you that every single day, but it's true and then they had. A six month warranty. So you can be sure of what's in the box if you're selling through them that grading system is very important because once it's done always in order you get your money straight away. If you've tried selling on other platforms aren't really designed for photography and a bespoke way you really need to think about using 'EM PB, next time I've used them. It's a system that works and I've got my eye on a particular piece of Kit at the moment actually. So I'm I'm ready to pounce on at the moment I said I'll tell you what it is just in case you're looking for the same. There's a kind of postscript moment to today's show, but I went to a spoiler that's to come sole perfection. Then who wants there work to be perfect is perfection. Some water of rated quality remember the story that the photographer and Director Vincent Laugh told us recently won his father an accomplished photographer would lay to positive negatives InFocus one side out of or I guess even slightly out of focus the other. Hit then drive a pair of scissors through the Paul of next were anything less than perfect. Vincent says it was somewhat of a sobering lesson but one which has left him with the perfection mindset. Now I'm not questioning of course whether that was in any way flawed as an education method who am I to question two photographers of stature but it is something thought about myself on Friday lost during the photo walk in response to a male about emotion I mentioned that what I consider to be my emotionally charged photographs, the ones that I'm most happy with a not necessarily technically perfect far from it being in the moment says all. The talk about sticking to the technical rule books, lights leaks under exposure lens flare I, mean let's be honest. These refects that many photographers actually add into pitches in fetish over light room I mean let's look at robot frank undeniably one of the most important storytellers in photographic history there's a picture this being written about a number of times commentary upon it as being one of the perfectly imperfect captures within the Americans series called San Francisco. It features a couple in Alamo Square Park. Late on in the fifties, it's on the Anglo Dutch tilt badly exposed very badly exposed actually the background, his so blown estimate no odds the composition shouts snapshot but is one of the celebrated pictures in that series. That's not to say, you shouldn't aim for a photograph that shouts nailed it in modern parlance but look at the greats remember Cartier Bresson photograph of a man gleefully hoping over flooded area in Paris click just before the man's he'll hits the water look at it close up. And then there's that adage you see Youtube is eulogized him bang on about don his better than perfect. So really what is this fuss about perfection big question mark. Maybe, it's because a heart or thumb pointing outwards forms the indicative concept success these days. Thus photographers only dare release pitches that had been shaped shops and showed in their best light perfection and floors. Then just part of my conversation with today's guests Chris Always? In the previous episode, we've talked about connection and empathy and and sharing space with the people that you photograph. Of course, twenty twenty hasn't been the easiest time to have that that close connection has it and I I wonder what you've been advising those that you teach in the photographers that you mentor about about connection well, I can talk to what I've been doing. Using longer focal lenses. So I used to shoot a lot with the eighty-five now, more with one thirty five because it creates a little bit of a safer, not just cove safe but just a little emotionally safer distance. You know I, think people are more comfortable standing it a little more of a distance and then with that connection. There's definitely ways to to do it. But it's been a little bit more explicit about it. For example, am before you could just let's say, let's say I was going to photograph you come over and we visit I said let's do a walk around town and we'll do this and. We just kind of jostling through the crowd. We find a place to shoot we shoot and we walk away. Now I would need to do is say, Hey, let's take a ten minute walk. Let's go over there. It seems like there's some good open space you can stand there I can stand here and I guess what I'm getting at trying to get at is setting expectation. For example, I'm shooting a headshot of its of a CEO. I always will also catch capture a portrait head shots and portraits are very different. Headshots are always commercial. So their commercial, their outward facing picture for the company there about getting the job there about getting the acting gig there about getting people to. Buy The house of as a real estate agent headshots are commercial. They're about like there's some kind of commercial transaction that's going to happen as a result of that but you'll never see a head shot at someone's funeral. On the other hand. You will see a portrait of that person as you walk into the funeral and say this person was a great man or woman an imagine if you saw they're acting headshot you'd be like that that'd be the weirdest thing the world, right so the reason I'm saying that Stara Fay's both and thing so I tell my students. Yeah. If you're GONNA do fashion the fashion shot but also get the portrait if you're going to the the headshot. Portrait, but you have to clarify the expectation. So at the CEO I would say, Hey, this is forward facing and this one's more I know your Mama three kids. So this one's more like something maybe your kids would enjoy seeing you as a little more. A little bit softer a little more meaningful in if I say that I can get two shots. But if I go into the shoot, do the headshot and then say in will by the way, can we also do this? She's going to be like, no like dude, I don't have time for this. Are you kidding me but if I say we're GonNa do this and then this this one here that one here in any way back to the covid scenario, it's having that mindset of clarifying what happens to most photographers. They get so excited to photograph someone that they forget. The other person isn't sharing that excitement. Now, like Yay I get to have my portrait made and I'm going to spend hours doing this and I'm my gosh this is awkward people around and how close did we being? What should I you sat up that expectation in that facilitates connection to happen I. Think in the same way as going to coffee with a mentor or friend you say, Hey, can we go to coffee for fifteen minutes or half hour or an hour? You set the expectation you figured out where you're going to do it how you're going to do it, and then you can connect. But if you just stumble into it, we used to be able to stumble into things doesn't turn out. So all I to talk about connects naturally the you made is pre profound one retired about two headaches talk I. Do WanNa come onto a question about why teach but but there was a particularly profound an an important moment that you talked about on tax. The idea that everything should be perfect and he found that when you photograph seal who took about. Embracing the imperfection that film beautifully offered up that he didn't feel digital did and we spent much time talking about digital or film film vs digital. Do you think digital's pop spoiled us? Yeah I think you. Just gotTa architecture for a minute. There are certain architectural styles. My Dad built the home designed and built the home I grew up in. So I have a really interested in structure in space in the way, materials helped to create those things. So they're certain building materials that can be used that weather very well. So let's just go to Italy in our minds, all the Patina, all the feeling pain, all that crumbling rock it's beautiful. But if you build something that it's really modern and bright white if it gets five years old and the white is now gonNa Shabby and there's water stains on the white looks horrible. So doesn't whether well so to speak, I've always found the weathering or Patina or passage of time or the Japanese concept. Of Wabi Sabi is this kind of beauty which is timeless in a sense. You know because what it does say what even with those? Film photographs as you can look at it, and even though you know it was captured fifty years ago it will forever be a good photograph. Yeah. Where I think a digital image if it is to perfect will be good right now but it won't last long. So I think imperfection is actually what gives it a little bit of lasting power and this is true with characters in movies and films. So just to go very, very mainstream in. Star wars say I mean my kids saw that recently but let's say the character Han Solo the fact that he's so honest and all these things it's it's why we we like him I mean that's why he's that character will will be timeless. He will always be enjoyed because of he doesn't believe in the forest and he's Kinda doing it for the money and whatever whatever these things are in all great stories. There are flaws which. Makes US enjoy the story the character more in it makes it last and so yes, I think in photography there is a real danger to over touching to getting it to perfect to to to to fixing photographs maybe too much in the end. The opposite can be said, mean, you don't want to throw this dirty filter on it and think that's GonNa work either there's this interesting balance between the two you clearly enjoyed talking to an audience. And you love teaching. We've got a real passion for photography. There's no doubt about that but I wonder what what it is when I when I look at your career and what you've done, the people that you've met and you chose really to take the path of teaching and mentoring and I know that's a business in itself, an plenty of talk of his at, do it because it earns the money but I get the feeling that you didn't do it. For that reason of course, we will have to put bread on the table I know. But I get the feeling that it was slightly more purist for you. What was it about teaching the? The took you that direction. Yeah I mean I it is very intentional in in vary strategic. I guess well for me, there's that quote by w beats who said the education isn't filling a pale it's lighting a fire and I think since as far back as I can remember, my pursuit in life has been about how to live life to the fullest. It's about the art and adventure of living and even wrote a little story about that fourth grade and I have found that teaching to be one of those great ways. To really ignite the fire in in myself. I think I get excited about it like even talking with you. It's really fun to get to chat about this and then to see that happen and others, and all of that comes from people who've done that for me and I think for much of my life I didn't realize it until later but I just absorbed so much and felt like I didn't fit in and I didn't know what to do with all these feelings and thoughts and ideas that I had and I Felt a little out of place. So maybe as a kid, you might call me very shy and I would call myself area observance, but I didn't have that language yet or McCall me late bloomer but I think that was more I was just I wasn't ready to lake fly into things right away I was like, what is this? Why is this? How is this and then I had those teachers who made that that impact on me and helped me to realize no, this is good. You're asking these questions. This is good. You're being shy or thoughtful or mindful, and and I don't know if it's a little bit of not validation but you know what it is. It's kind of like the it's kind of like a coach. Let's go to a sport. I do not play baseball, but I have friends appro baseball player. So let's go to baseball and in that it's like the coach that says you know you're playing third base, but you'd be so much better at first base and then you change and all of a sudden. Oh my gosh, you're right. Like I had no idea like I. Knew I love the sport I just didn't know where I fit in on the field so to speak, and so I've had teachers and mentors do that for me and I think I. Feel Not Indebted but just grateful. I just WanNa do that as well and do it in a way that kind of honor the process and the person and yeah. When I started, you know there is still no there wasn't money in even now the money is actually very meager and minimal in the teaching. Side of things because I do a lot of online education and my friends say it must be amazing for you and I say well, ever since Kovic hit everything's online education. So so it's a space which is very diluted. You know, but I don't care I mean I. I still love it and I'm still going to do my own thing and in that way. So that's I think that's where it comes from, and then lastly is the idea that the teachers it's all teachers no one learns the most. So when you you're forced. To articulate you learn things that you wouldn't have learned otherwise in that's that's a great gift Mesa keep taking pictures the yeah. I if pursuit of wisdom and that's why portraiture for me in the sense of every portrait session I've done I feel like I've gained something from the subject or the model of of that shoot in. So I just feel like there's so much to learn about the human experience and maybe make that little more practical for people are like what does that mean when you photograph someone who was a world? Champion surfer and no longer is in that was twenty years ago that they last there want they they won their last surf contest. They've had twenty years to figure out how do I either let my life fall apart because the thing I was good at I'm past that prime or point or how do I reinvent, and so you about this wisdom about approaching life and peaks and troughs, and you know or or maybe you learn things Let's say the other side go a little dark here you like dark stuff and You someone I admire for doing whatever it is. You know, let's say being good at talent axe, but then you realize other kind of deplorable life. And that's that's so disappointing and I wanNA make sure that isn't like I n photography and particularly I, read a book by photographer that I really enjoyed the early my career and I got to the end and then the last page was the thanks. For the next you know one of the things he said, thanks to my kids who Who you know have been so understanding and patient with me and thank you for understanding that while I what haven't been there for the last decade of your lives that we've still been able to maintain our connection or something like that and I was just like man like are you kidding me and and again it's not judgment on that person. It's more like I'm not going to be the photographer WHO's Gone from family. In pursuit of photographs that wisdom I'm gaining is I want to do both. So that makes me keep taking pictures keep reading books, keep watching things keep you know keep learning. To try to discover how to live well, I think that's really the pursuit. I've had three near death experiences in my life and one of them Rock Climbing One of them surfing in one of with an automobile and I've come to learn that people define these nd ease near death experiences and I think we've probably had them whether we know it or not like the car that must hit us or something like that. But when you have them more in earnest and you can point back to them, they make you realize life's precious life short. And how do we live? Well, how do we? How do we make the most of the time that we have and so that is really what drives my photography is that question more than anything in the world it's not. Getting the cover it's not about getting the shot. It's not about. It's not about the gear. It's about that question and I found the camera is a really good tool for that kind of inquiry just finally tell me you still have that food great story somewhere. Yes. Yes. Idea idea. It's pretty funny but. Yeah it's. It's definitely a little anchor point for me. I think you need to be publishing. Yeah. Thanks to Chris always, and usually that's that for today though the conversation continued. And I wanted to share a little more of our shots which in terms of our conversation about perfection today goes to show that yours truly whereas about just that that the end of each and every conversation I have with a guest. Next week it's the members only episode law Saturday in the month the brand new mega. I'm one of the features will be to play the stuff that you don't hear during the week the cutting room floor stuff which this month includes the photojournalists car mcnaughton revealing his other passion in life besides taking award. Winning News Pictures Aviation Photography Lead K with a Funny Secret About Airline Food and Vincent lavery with another secret for this time of James gives portfolio reviews but at the end of today's chat, with Chris Owen, we had moments where the tape officially stocks and I admitted my interview floor all anxiety countered by some advice Chris is a sneaky cutting room floor moment. I was feel there's a there's a sense of guilt whenever I close an interview. That I look in somebody's eyes or hid voice is not visual and I'm thinking. They thinking. Has Really. Got Me. Diaz enough stuff he missed that bit why didn't Niaz me that? But it's so. That you're seeing thing about that is that how it relates to portrait shoots there is that same exact exit that you talked about, and that's why I was trying to talk about that with the wolf like leaving the wolf. Story, but I would never have thought about when you brought up the Wolfer though. Than just delivering very obvious human experience almost. Yeah. Yeah. Well, in the part of the exit or the ending the interview like you're saying. Most. Of My students make the error of not ending well, and so I I try to tell them like I'm like dinner party or something when the when it's over, you don't just like say go away or you don't just walk away you walk the guest out to their vehicle or you walk through the door you know you you like you make full connection like that last last moment of the shoot is so so important. And how you end it what you say The eye, contact us the rhythm of your your. The way you're moving your body all these things again back to the wolf. You would never just be like nailed it gone. You know or whatever like I got what I need to get this things over you know it's in the bag. You want a little bit of that even like you were saying that question like, did we get everything in the answer is no. The or the dinner is over it's like what this could keep going on forever but you. It's time to end. And that's okay. It's kind of that mystery of life, right? So Not, being revelations while say that for the mega said, it's been a pleasure talking with Chris Renwick over the past three weeks tomorrow it's the Friday photo walk your miles your feedback to what you've been hearing with one. That's well, I. Think a little controversial this week. CNN. Teasing again. On of course, I'll have my camera taking some snaps as we salt on a photo walk together music in the show today was from least dot io and I look forward to photographing with you hearing from you and talking with you tomorrow photography daily is a loading zone production.

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Rob & Akiva Need a Podcast #32: Total Idea Request Live

Rob Has a Podcast

2:23:47 hr | 1 year ago

Rob & Akiva Need a Podcast #32: Total Idea Request Live

"Wow. Akiva needle. That's right. Yes. Robin, Akiva, Nida podcast episode number thirty two that was the great songs rob Makita need a podcast by recent wand off winner, Adam Berkowitz, and here, we are ready to go as it's total idea. Request live. I am rob sister. Nino here on episode number thirty two of Robin. Akiva need a podcast with a man that I have not spoken to for two weeks. And it's one of the longer yada that I've had in these last five years of podcasting with the guy they called the podcast is podcast. Or of course, you know, him from the Seinfeld post show recap the thirty two fans, podcast football, and sports and TV talk podcast here. He is the crate Akiva Winokur instead of podcasters podcast, or what do you think about my rebrand? Spent a lot of time with my nieces and nephews recently, what do you think about rebrand too key? Uncle key. That's fine. I've heard you reference yourself as. Mielke, something actually last night. If people listening, the the smooth dulcet tones of Akiva, uncle sound different. I got a new Mike, and I went to Chester's parents place to pick it up and Chester's kids were crying in the elevator. Because it was like midnight. We were both coming back from like vacations. And so I was like, hey, I'll take one of them because his wife was alone dealing with three three sons. And I'm like, you don't want to go and his kids who don't really know what? Yeah, we're all creeped out. I think, but I also I brought when I was getting the Mike I brought my daughter because she had the p she was we were we're both on long trips home. So she like, you know, we have been in the Carver to want to go to the bathroom. So went into his place. She comes back afterwards. She's like dad, I was afraid to p their bathroom toilet gold. So I don't know if like Chester's Donald Trump or not. But he's got a gold gold toilet. That's been a theory that many floated before I did she mentioned anything about an inspector gadget type panic room. It's a different different place. Also, she's thirteen. She doesn't know. What inspector gadget is even ok well, my kids know it from there is a Netflix reboot of the inspector. Gadget. I guess she missed it though. Maybe my little ones. No. But like thirteen year old miss the whole gadget era. All right. Total idea requests live here today. We've got a ton of people on hold waiting to pitch us ideas. Akiva when we bring somebody on with us. They will have two minutes and thirty seconds to pitch us on an idea to go onto the wheel. The idea will go onto the wheel when both rob. And Akiva say yes to the idea. Can maybe that should be. What this episode called say? Yes. To the dress say the idea, I mean. That's a good name. The other thing I was thinking because what if we get like a couple of good ideas, the beginning. But then at the end like those ideas, get knocked out of the ballpark by better ideas. I mean, if we limit for how many do you want to sort of rank them what if like we sort of make rankings during the call? We don't like tell the people. Hey, that's great. Or that's bad. I'm just balling here. But what if we don't tell the people if we like it, and we sort of have an internal ranking? I'll do it you'll do. And then we'll talk we'll we'll reconvene at the end where it's like one to five one being awful five being great for being let's say I wanna come back and have to do something at the end. I want to tell the person we're talking to their idea is good or their ideas sting. But should we grade them? Should we grade them or do you think that's too harsh? Should we grade them in real time to the person? I don't mind surly like ranking the ideas as as they come in in terms of like, that's the number one idea that came out of this. But I of all my one to five system, you're not into it. I don't know why we were gonna make it extra complicated. I the name of the game here. Everything we do is extra. The rules where I think we each get to extend the calls, but only one minute, right? Also, we don't know his keeping track of the time because I don't. Okay. You're keeping track of the time. But the game is get people need to get us to say yes to their idea. I don't think we need like overly complicate it with rating for what it. It's a one or is euro as likes to throw around. It's yes, sir. Deciding what you are or one or zero she's decided I'm zero a longtime ago, but that's her loss. Okay. The right. The other thing I'm not sure we mentioned is that minimum. We promised to ideas. Get on the wheel. Okay. All right. The fishbowl. We would like we could sorta cop out and just take two ideas and the fishbowl worst case scenario. All right. I so I think we need to anymore setup. Here. We've got a ton of people on hold. Let's see how many calls that we can get to two minutes and thirty seconds. You do not need to use all of your time. Akiva, do we have a word that we want to say for when we say, yes, we want to have something like something cupcake. All right. Okay. I ask one more thing. Yeah. Remember when we when we last time we spoke to the listeners when we call them, and we ask them who's who's living rent-free in their head. Yes. So let's say if we if we have time for people. I've got a question him. All right. What do you think about this? That's fine. If people want to run it by you, first, let's say for the first person. I think you're gonna hate it. That's fine. That'll be cut the first one. Okay. All right. So then if people have if they want to either what's that called like when I watch these congressional hearings, and they wanna give their time to fill. Oh, I don't know what that's called. Is there? There's got to be a name for it. Do you watch a lot of congressional hearings? You make it sound like one I didn't before the last couple of years. But I, but I know exactly we're talking about. It's like you have five minutes. Eo see only needs like ninety seconds and give the other three and a half back to the chairman the other way around. But yeah, that's the idea. Yeah. Okay. All right. Let's get into our first call. And so we are going to hear from. I know from the sound check that this is Maria. Yes. Okay. All right. So here we go. Maria, your two minutes and thirty seconds start. Now. Hi, Robyn, Akiva. So let's go number. My what's what we got. You maria. You're good. Okay. All right. Sounds good. Okay. So I'm going bit of against conventional wisdom here online, which says to not talk about on the podcast. I'm saying go all in on the opposite direction. And let's make a podcast where for a week or less leading up to the next one all of Rob's meals are planned and decided by kiva and in an effort to expand Rob's pallet yon, just boring chicken and salads and whatever else try to get some spice in Rob's life. And then on the podcasts at the end at the end of the week, or however long rob is gonna report back on is experiencing how terrible or good or it was hopefully on a 'cause you know, we want to be one of the other extreme. Anyway, that's my idea. Can rub trick me into eating. Not kosher. The other way round. Yeah. So. This necessarily like if I'm gonna go home for a week. If kiva isn't a plan. My my will I don't like kiva planning my meals as much as I would like the idea of keeping kosher for I think, I knew it. I mean. Yeah. I mean, I think I'd be like the perfect person to keep kosher, Akiva. Yeah. Because your food is very boring dif- you'd have to different supermarket one time, but it would be relatively new your house play the more expensive. So what which version are we are we voting on? Rob keeps kosher for a week or Akiva plans on my meals because I'm out on a kiva plans all my meals for a week. I think rob keeps kosher for a week is really good. But rob is nicks like rob eats Jewish dropped tries Jewish foods BuzzFeed style, which I thought is also a good a good idea. What is the podcast is the podcast? Interesting. Am I like keeping a diary all the way through? I think we could discuss like will make you have like a couple really hyper-specific, kosher foods, and you're keeping some sort of brief diary, okay? And let me give the rest of the time to Maria. And then it keeps I will finish the Scott Shen. Anything else? I think the the kosher idea could be interesting. It might be too easy. I'm not sure. Okay. All right. Time is time is expired. Okay. So I'm going gonna put I'm gonna I'm gonna put you back on hold and keep an eye are going to discuss whether we need more time, and whether the ideas go onto the wheel, thank you. Thank you for the call. We may come back for an additional sixty seconds. If we need it. Okay. Okay. All right. Thank you Maria. Keep my phone on. All right Maria is back on his back on mute. Okay. Akiva. So that I have a little bit of the deliberation. Before we go to the next call is this is this good enough to go onto the wheel. I think also can we knock something off as long as we have to. Let's say later in the show. We like let's say this is our favorite but ends up being third or fourth favourite. Okay, fine. Let's. Tentative. Yes to what is it? Rob keeps kosher for kosher for talk about my experience. Yeah. But I also think I'm gonna get like a famous kosher chef to like help plan. That's that's fine. But I also, but I the final say on if I wanna have a kosher boring chicken, you get like three meal vetoes, and then we'll make we'll give you the backup meal. Okay. All right. Okay. We need more time with Maria. No. I think it was good. I also like it's funny because we're just going to sort of tweak every idea and give ourselves credit for it. All right. All right. So there you go. There was Maria. All right. Let's take you all number two today. And this is going to be from. Okay. All right. Two minutes and thirty seconds go. Okay. I supposed to call note in and nephew hater, keep uncle noted. Niece and nephew hater key. Yeah. That is true. If you die listeners know that I'm anti nieces and nephews like, okay. Hey, all right from the original hot take too. So. So I think the episode the season for now was really fantastic. But it got quickly sidetrack into an idea of whiting the wheel clean. So forget about wiping the wheel clean. But imagine this season finale episode it comes of randomly. We haven't whole award show similar to verners both home the wheels. If your favorite and least seven episodes that span that's best not to get takes that's cetera. And for the main attraction in this. This can be its own idea. If you wanted to beat the marriage of it sells. I mean case it doesn't hold enough on its own. I would want now this again to guests. But I think one should be to get them. The other nuts the net Wanda, featuring cheswick and Casey Kasem. And of course, the winner would get the win win were getting. Gets a Weiner. Okay. I'd like to see the rest of my time for the my other ideas if that's not smoke. Yes. It's fine. I have other ideas on more time so feel for. The brand the renowned character brand steel, I think we'd just be rebranded as for nephews versus villains AK stands versus ops. Okay. Try try maybe Mark linn Baker data up. Obviously Ryan Candice Bergen leprechaun's MRI, of course. And for. He's not he's. Keep going. So I- revisit the original to lost Robin podcast episodes, which are not I'm this field. And I thought for sure some gold in those in those episodes, really isn't Rob's favorite idea right off the bat robbed, you know, your favorite idea from the original sixteen. What was it watch CSI New York over and over again? Music videos. Hit the Mark. Now, New York, you guys you guys the pro for New York was that it will for sure be on this aisle access. About was that you'd be so excited for the following episodes that you desperately wanna continue season up. So, but you wouldn't deal out the how does that? All right. Great concern. The thank you for all of your ideas. You are added time. Thank you put you back on hold. We may come back to you. If we need additional sixty seconds like like, rob future. All Mata lunch that he's going to have in a few weeks a lot. They just from three there by the way passer over for like two days. I almost choked on mozza before when I was home alone. And I thought like two days after because there's nothing no one came home with dinner went out like four hours ago to get dinner with the kids and somehow showed up two minutes ago. The second we started the podcast. So I felt like what a a low weight ago. Like, no, no Lamer death of all time then like choking on mozza after Passover almost happened. Okay. V dropped a lot on us. They are Akiva Bill. It's the is is is the creator of the conspiracy the domas conspiracy. All right. So he has a better track record with these. Ideas than we do apparently. All right. So I if he says that as a noted hater of nieces and nephews you had said that one of your least favorite things is when people post niece and nephew pictures on social media. Yeah. Like, it shouldn't be the cover your phone if you like. He's a psychopath. If they have the picture of their profile pictures them with like a niece or set a lot of regrettable things that might they rob. But but I mean in fairness like, I don't know all of my nieces and nephews name. So I can get like an irony a monkey I was I was literally at my brother-in-law's house for the holiday, and like, I don't think his kids noticed. I was there the whole nine. Okay. So V went through a lot of stuff it sounded like he was pitching another version of the Robin kiva award show. But ultimately, he ended up saying something about our Robin, Akiva wand off. Yeah. I mean, that's really not up to us. Like, we could say, yes. But we obviously cannot do that without Jesuit lers consent. And I understand if he wouldn't want to spread too thin. I really do think that we would struggle to get five one offs for a one-off interesting. Now, the thing is that while we probably have a lot less listeners than something. Like that. A lot of the Wando of people are like pretty big staple. So I think they might actually show up. But what are they writing songs of? Right. I think they would just have to be Robin kiva songs in general or that whatever week. He comes up the wand off is about the previous episode because I think that would actually make it easier with in doing the wand off when we say, okay. Well, you make a song about the whole season. I can't do that. But it's like make a song about the past episode. That's easier. Literally be like every single could literally be bet like JT or the Oregon trail, whatever the pre whatever the episode in which that wheelspin comes up. That's what it is. So if if that came up on the last episode, all of the wand off songs would be about Riverdale or frail, Mary or mcginnis or any anything from the previous episode. I kinda like that. Okay. Let's put it in in consideration. Is something are thinking about I. In in-practice now that we're really under the gun. I don't really love the idea of having to say yes to something immediately. Let's let's hear what comes in. And then. We'll definitely be able to say notice today. Let's and then finally V said that he thinks that we should make the brand steel stands versus ops. Okay. That's fine. Yeah. That's really a tweak that was saying he's like DuPont. Remember those commercials. Like, we don't make the things that you buy. We just make them better not venting that ideas weaking. All right. So let's go to our next call here. And this is going to be from. Dave from Ohio day from Ohio is online. Okay. So let's go and patching Dave from Ohio, and Dave you're two minutes and thirty seconds begins now. All right. Hey, Robin, Akiba mine idea is rob versus the chief battle of the month. You were born. Okay. So each of you would pick ten celebrities movies icons that are there born viewed or released in the month, you're born. So so rob your Tober seventy eight is that right? Correct. Well, hold on hold on. We'll give you a few seconds. Wait, Dave, make rob guests the month. I was born. He was born. Oh boy. Jitter the year. Oh, rob what kind of friends, rob? You could tell them. Dave. September eighty three is correct. Correct. Correct. Yes. Correct. Okay. So so you take him whether we. Born viewed only onto your born. And then you get stats on them. Like either ratings if a four Ticon then percentage or number chairmanships, and then you would go head to head in the next week. Robert pick one Akiva would say this one and the back and forth. So for example, I'm just a little bit older than rob. I was one in June of seventy eight so. Would be. So my would be Bill hater from Saturday live Dirk Nowitzki from the Dallas Mavericks. They'll move from berry off so Donna from avatar guards galaxy and Star Trek, Justin, Laurie you haven't heard of. But he was in dodgeball. And he was I'm a match guy. Yeah. The commercial back in the day. And then number five would be Garfield the cats. Right. So that'd be nine list. And then you would say, okay. Like, technically, I say, okay, I'm gonna give you Bill hater and say, oh, let me come back with Zoe gel. And then I say, oh, well, well, his IMDB rating is this your I'm being bickering is that mine tire my lower. You also could do a rotten tomatoes because every celebrity has their Beck newbie in their worst movie. So I could say, oh, here's Bill hater. I know that Zoe don't Donna. Bean rating, but but when you pick rotten tomatoes, and and you can say, okay, actor or or different stats for sports icons, and such or you can also do the brand steel idea that so okay? That's my all right. Thank you so much. Dave wants to have us podcast about the months in which I don't think by the way, that's the way in terms of content. That's the way to do. It just come on. And Dave and thank you for the call you back on hold. If we need the extra sixty seconds. We'll bring you back. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Very great. Okay. I think you can hang up. Question is ultimately, who cares if a juice? You know, random listener Corey from Cleveland. Okay. I opened up my tunesfeed on on a Sunday morning. And I see oh, Robin Cubana podcast wonder what they're talking about this week and the title is October nineteen seventy eight versus timber nineteen Eighty-three. Yeah. I might skip that. I mean, it's definitely out there. I give him props like for you know, for for the idea to big idea. But it's just I don't know if there's anything they're like, a water, we ultimately. And like if I'd almost care more birthday like if we went what's your deck over twenty fifth or something twentieth. Twentieth. And September twenty six I I've no month birthday month pride. I have day day pride. Okay. Like, the most famous people born on your birthday. Yes. Do off the top of your head. You know? Keith hernandez. Okay. Mickey Mantle documentaries brothers, Snoop, Doggy Dogg. Okay. You and we've discussed this on Seinfeld. Once I think I wanted to really Chester should have a birthday ranking for all three hundred sixty five days. Maybe the most slippery birthdays. Or do you want to be the most famous person on your birthday? I mean, it would be hard for me to be, you know. But like, I don't know. Yeah. I just have. I just have Serena Williams and genuine them. I think are the only celebres born on my birthday. My birthday month. You have. Sean Brosnan peers, president son. Yeah. I don't think it was a great month. Now Maggie grace. So I think is still buried September birthday. So lost the spoiler. Yeah. There's a lot of the Semper baby making happening. Yes. Okay. All right. Let's get to our next call here. And this is going to be. Be draw. Deedrick? Okay. Let's talk to d- dry here who famously was somebody who went out on the one of the dates on the rap chiller and before I bring her in Akita. Did you catch the big update from the rapture edition of the podcast? Oh, yeah. I was gonna say I have note to talk about that right before we spend the wheel. Yes. Big news. And the nap world will end just east from the end of the recaps or segment who famously I wouldn't say promised, but we'll consider getting married on this very show. Yes are engaged. This has been a big couple of months for Jessica sterling to become the first two time guess on Rodney to podcast and then also getting engaged. Yeah. And she just beat Dietrich because the dry think is about to make her second appearance on the show. Also, the guy. All right. So let's go one more update before we get to the. Yes. By the way, Edwin says called from work, but had the hang up. Okay. No. But here's an update quals. Who's listening says senators congressman yield their time to there to there? I think visa seed they're times it seed, or you know. That person is right. Also, I got a from Wolfram merica, would you like to hear it? Sure. He said he's on the line, but running an escape room until a half hour. He should be fine. Okay. Okay. Also, just says a as a note here, we will not do mount Renat more in this episode after we get calls. This whole thing is about or if you think about it. That's the thing. If the whole episode is about ideas, we don't do amount more we going wheel. Okay. Here's the DRA. And let's go ahead and bring her in her two minutes and thirty seconds are going to start once we get her on the line d- dry there. Yes. Hey, robbing heave. So I know we're supposed to start our ideas with achieve of this idea is good. So there we go. Robin kiva, Robin, Akiva, predict the future. So this is like a spiritual sequel to what e- brought up earlier with your sports and hot takes from the two lockstep Assode where rob and kiva you guys can make no sir Dom type predictions, and then we can revisit them at a later date. Whether that's next year years, you can predict all the things that you would talk about on one of the random day in the nineties odd tasks like the biggest movie at the box office, the jets the Mets things like that. So it's like that. But in reverse. So that is that is my idea, and I see my jurors floor. What if I told you d DRA put Q thirty thirty four. So what if I told you that? Pitch like five times. We've been much different. And I thought that you guys had gotten sort of the opposite of that. Which is like you put. Time you talk, airing and. Capsule up. So, but we just air it. Retract my statement. And I yield my time to the Russian was cry. So just putting it twice comments. Okay. So, you know, a keep an eye are what predicting things like, you know, who's going to win the World Series. And then who's going to win the democratic primary things like that. Sure. Yeah. And you know, we never to remind forgot to mention rub. Yes. Okay. Well, hold on. Dietrich keep going. Oh, yeah. So we've got big survivor year coming out. So that could be big prediction night. You could talk about like, what are the the big shows that are gonna win the Emmys, or you know, who's gonna get eighties reboot in the next year that. All right time for this question. Of course. Okay. Real quick DJ which twenty twenty democratic candidate you support right now. I am legally not allowed to answer that question. Oh, government employees racy that's straight and that got off to a good that got off to a great star. Rub. All right. All right. If we need more time, we will come back. Okay. Hope you doing great. Okay. All right. Bye. Okay. All right. So. Yeah. There we have it. And so any thoughts on that? I mean, I I met, you know, I don't hate it. But I don't love it. Like, we'll any been be excited. If that's next week pod. Guel can't be next. Like, it would be interesting. If there was somebody who came on and was going to tell us like their predictions for twenty twenty where but what are the stakes? I always ask what I don't know. I don't know if it was like in January. Yeah. Or or in December. And then like like Chester was coming on with. Big name guests. It would have to be like a funny like what if we got like a fortune teller on like a psychic. And she told us what was going to happen. That would be cool. I would that would be then it's like you're really putting your name on the line there that I would do. But what if your way to listeners are sending us their predictions for twenty twenty are we are we in around. We could do that. What if I would like the best listener wins Weiner hat or some or or you, and I have to have to decide are we? Okay. So somebody comes out and makes a prediction twenty twenty twenty. Somebody says Texas is going to secede from the union this year. Okay. And you and I have to cast our vote. Yes. Yes. Or no. And then at the end of the year, then we have we're we're counting for the twenty-five things. All right. Put it in the maybe pile that I like that. Yeah. Wheelchair like the March madness bracket where it has six spots on the wheel in December. Okay. Perfect. Okay. But not until like, we're not doing that. In august. Right. I agree. Okay. All right. Twenty twenty prediction game. Okay. Let's go to our next call. And I do think that the time limit is is working. I agree. It was going to do about you. All right. So let's go ahead to our next caller. This is. Monica monica. All right. Let's do it for Monica. Okay. Here is Monica. Monica. Are you there? Hey, Robin kiva making my call. Minutes in thirty seconds for you, Monica. Okay. My elevator pitch is a slight workshop on the podcast you've already done, and it's sorta going to flame out because of you just didn't up date before the Deedrick call, but hang in there. Okay. The elevator doors opened and I see rob. And Akiva, rob, Akiva. I love rehab and my favorite one coming in second place to leprechaun was perhaps earlier. Now here comes up. There was only one thing missing from there. Happyhiller pause for dramatic effect. Oh, shoot. I was three that sorry. There was only one thing missing in that was. That was a happy ending and everybody wants to happy ending. But either kind of is one. So forget that. But okay, hang in there. The one element that will create a guaranteed. Happy ending to their happier is rob and Akiva, ship a podcast. Robin, kiva hiccup friend. Robin. Akiva have agree on the date, Robin Akiba ship. The. Now, I am not Rob's LA base assistant. So I cannot foresee possible roadblock coming or problems that may occur. But and I know robs picky. But. If you choose a trusted friend, and you both agree. I think there's a guaranteed happy ending. And if it hits the wheel in like three months from now, there could even be another engagement. Elevator doors just open. Hold on. Are you confused at all or do you feel like that? You are getting this all I'm I'm confused. Yeah. We're shipping. cO basically, we're setting up a couple here on the crew Robin came on the crew we're using ship it up to do this. Absolutely. Okay. Okay. So I don't know what that is. And that's that's maybe the confusion. Yeah. I think that'd be difficult to do. Through the. Nardy benches debate at the kick idea. It's all right. Well, but also trip is like someone's like, hey could get on my ship idea. Then everyone was like, oh, it's like it doesn't work for Android. So we're really discriminating against our injured listeners Bach. I don't know if this is going to be a fit, but I'll I'll tell you. What if I ever get divorced in back in the dating full? We do this for me. Okay. Okay. Thanks, guys. Thank you making. All right. What what a podcast that would be key. I'm literally what a podcast that would be. I do not know what to do. But it might be tacky to date the listeners that would be is that what she wanted. She wanted us to date the listener. Oh, you mean if you? Yeah. So a key. They want to get people matched up. And then we're going to pick all the particulars. That could be the only way we could get Nicole to listen to or at least like her attorney for legal purposes. Yeah. Okay. All right goal really is to have like some attorneys like having to listen this like billable hours at there charging their client for. I mean, there's a count is Chester's listening to the podcast. I mean, he probably building somebody for that. So sure. Okay. All right. Who else is on hold Ben from Calgary? All right. Ben from Calgary. All right here is Ben Ben are you there? I'm here up. All right. Ben, you're on the clock. Okay. Thanks. I was a little frayed. Monica was gonna pitch up kiva get a happy ending. Idea. My idea is a little but of a take on one that you put on the wheel AST week where you have the last four minutes of a movie, my idea is putting is watching the five minutes. Fifty five minutes into a movie that way, you have about four things you can podcast. I the recap what the hell you just watched. I you. And then you can also talked about what you think happened earlier in the movie, what will happen later on in the movie, and whether you would actually watch the movie, okay? Are we watching up until five minutes and fifty five seconds where we're watching a random, five minutes and five seconds. I was thinking you'd watch five fifty five minute five minutes fifty five minutes into the movie. So from fifty five minutes to one hour into the movie. Okay. So we're watching the exact middle of the movie. Yeah. Well, not always the middle. Yeah. Okay. So we're jumping in very late in the second act of film. Yeah. With with no context idea, you you might not even see the the main character or the main villain at that point. Why why would the listener care what we thought about the middle five minutes of random movies? If I was thinking about if you had a crappy movie something like a leprechaun, not not necessarily leprechaun on because obviously you have the bad movie diaper, but something like that then then you can just do re hap. And then with five minutes, I think you're gonna keep us. Recaps would be probably hilarious and then trying to predict what's happened earlier in the movie. And what will happen later on in the movie, I think that there is some Jews to that where with watching the ending of the movie, you sometimes Apple's movies where you have two minutes of action and then three minutes of fall out and nothing really happens. Okay. But what do you think I just don't know how this is better than the final four? I'm not sure if it's better it's similar, but I it's. It's it's more confusing to say the middle five fifty five. That that's I tried it with one movie was called the sand. It's this really random movie where the fan attacks people. And I thought that if you to record something about that about the movie like that or similar Sandra that trying to explain the plot was movies with any content happened for would have been Larry's, okay, Ben. I'm sorry. We're at we're out of time. Thank thank you for the to me. It sounds like that it might be the follow up to final four really takes off. And it goes into the the strata Matic twenty sided die. Okay. Thanks keeper shy speak. Bye. All right. Did watch one to see how it would work. Definitely appreciate that sort of effort from him. Okay. All right. Are you ready for the next call or anything else that okay? No, okay. All right. This is our next caller. Okay. Tyler. I believe this is okay. Let's see is is this Tyler. Hello. Can you hear me? Yes. We hear you. Okay. You're on the clock. Great. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Great. So I'm gonna try to go a little bit fast because I have two or three ideas, so idea number one dic-, Robin. Cuba would choose rap album and kind of go behind the scenes and try to dissect all lyrics and what they mean. And then you guys can kind of just make up whatever, you think actually means or you know, like the song and everything you can maybe actually tried to do it. So one of my dance for that is there's a famous rapper whose names wall lay he has a scientist themed mix tape called the mixed about nothing. So that's just an idea for maybe something you can do idea. Number two, Robin, Akiva, leave their house. So I'm actually calling you guys out. So my. My was that, you know, the listeners can maybe sending their ideas. Like, maybe they could teach you a little bit about the language give you some survival raises. And then give you some like background history about their country their city or whatever. And then maybe they could pepper in some false information. And then you guys tried to sniff it out. And then that's kind of a way for listeners and everybody to learn something about different little corners of the world, I suppose, and then I d and number three is crossover. I guess between season three episode seven and crappy movie diapers. So my is season. Three episode seven of power. Rangers is actually the conclusion to a kind of TV movie time episode, but they also created a theatrical Power Rangers movie to that has like the exact same plot. So the idea would be you guys could watch the TV movie type thing or the actual theatrical release movie one the other both whatever, but they're both pretty terrible. And I think you've kind of fits your guys nineties wheelhouse, crappy dialogue and production. So okay. Those are my pitches sorry to super fast. Twenty seconds anything else. That'll do it. Thank you so much. I honestly can't believe. I'm actually you guys. All right. Tyler thank you for the call k-. Keep it I will pass those three pitches. Okay. Thanks so much. Thank you so much. All right. The key ask these people with the voting for it. Because literally everyone's Canadian who's calling. What works for the government? Okay. Look. So Akiva, three things we had dissect the rap album. Yeah. All right. All right. Everyone wants more aqui, Robin. Akiva, talking about music, especially like there needs to be more podcasts about white guys talking about that would have been saying on the street. So. Actually, two guys who couldn't handle like, you know, one music episode. We picked up by the ringer after that. White guy song about rapid is their wheelhouse posted can I someone I have no idea of this true. But this person's usually, right? And they said that the ringer doesn't pay their their host for their podcasts. That's wild. I don't know if that's true that's alleged. Okay. All right. Number two, the foreign language. We were learning about the world -education oil podcasting. No. I mean, I just think like it won't be funny because like worst case like winds up that we're making fun of them. It's not a terrible idea. But I don't think anyone's excited about it. And what was the third idea? Our injury NPR podcast. I really don't like it was like like, you probably still John John's pitch. John John's on the line. But I'm not a power interest guy never was power. Rangers gives me the the Hebrew. Jay, bruce. The. It's the he'd be gbs. But for Jews. So I can only give he'd be jeez. Yeah. You can only get he GP's. You know, unless you convert after rob keeps kosher that week. You're like, I need the food. All right. All right. Okay. Let's go to our eighth caller. Okay. We're flying through the calls. Okay. Eighth? Caller is going to be. Sean, Sean, the mailman okay is ready to go. Sean the mailman. Okay. You're on the clock. Okay. All right. All right. I got my list here. Norma calling. I know one of them was the new take on the the west lot quiz. But it's mayor Nicole don't wanna podcast just about the stupid wheel and the stupid stuff and then get rip on both. The also win win for all of my love of podcast where she complained about me for for like ninety minutes. So keep an eye on this episode yet your own the episode and there's a host, but you can't talk the. Episode also. The coin flip you turn that into like the bedding winter spot instead of a coin flip. It's whoever's won the latest bet that becomes their spot. So why takeover then y'all have to shut up and we ever talks the most loses. And so the other winner gets the spot. If it comes up there is Robin cable. Learn a new language or develop a secret Rene language. That's going to be. Yeah, we barely know. One language Rene Rene the game it's kind of board game. But it's all the Napa fide with all kind of random number generators and pingpong pools and a TV kids coming into the room shouting out something, and no we got us Twitter. I am db listeners. Sean. Can I ask you a question? How's our driver? Matt dip in that detto doing. Hey, the Benedetto is qualified twenty six today the racist. Probably starting actually right now do not have it on. But he qualified twenty six and they're racing in Talladega today. Superspeedway two hundred four miles an hour during qualifying rob is Dan the benefactor loved us. He would he would get a he would get a sticker like a Rene sort of stick not the main sponsor for NASCAR par. But like one of the side a five hundred bucks now, nobody watches NASCAR anymore because Sean like the I think we could hack that. What do you think? So we're getting a bumper sticker on a NASCAR car. Yeah. Yeah. We're we're doing some advertising on the NASCAR. That'd be huge. If we could get that would be you. Yes. Then the benefactor you're raking in the cash. I assume. All right. We are running out of time with Sean anything else. I got Robin. Akiva, get schooled gotta watch. The new spin off of the Goldberg called schooled school anything that. What if we'd ever watched the goldbergs, although I think their wives? I've watched it. It's fine. All right. Yeah. Sean, thank you so much. Okay. Thank shy about. All right. All right. Sean went with more of the, you know, scattershot approach through a bunch of stuff at the wall. He shot back. I don't remember had developed a language Rene the board game watch the TV show schooled. Yeah. No. I don't think any of them. Are we already have three or four in the maybe pile, right? So I think there's a high barrier. Yeah. Rene the home game. That's not anything. He's thinking ever heard. But I feel like the game three a little more developed. Well, I think that that would be the podcast. I mean, we'd be developing developing the game. Okay. I don't think it's a full podcast. Okay. Maybe if we had like a game developer could take that one. And then come up with the renowned home game. Okay. All right. So then because I don't ever been a podcast had a board game before. Serial? No, you're probably right. Yeah. I think we probably have a go to market with that. Okay. All right. Here's our next. Call caller number nine. James, james. Okay. Caller, number nine is James. Okay. Hello. James or you. Hey, guys, you hear me? Andrzej? Great. All right. So I thought it was in the show episode two which got me hooked which the patriots versus jets playing men, and we haven't had a sportscenter episodes since then. So I have three titles for an episode idea that would be about the same thing. So it'd be Robin. Akiva, sports makeover, Robin, Akiba, sports think-tank or forgetting really adventurous, Robin. Akiva, inventive sport. So basically, you would talk a lot of people who listen to that don't like sports, and I I'm a sports fan. But I do understand that they do get boring at times. So they can I think you could. You could like talk about what you do like about sports. What moments you like? And then what moments you don't like about sports and try to tweak sports and make them better. And yeah, that's DEA. And then my favorite show episode was my kid shows our trash, and I I know Reina's new show called Ryan's mystery play date Rob's than watching. Oh, man. I haven't checked it out. But I would like to hear you guys talk about. Okay. My son. We haven't gotten to it yet. Okay. All right. Who you voted for in twenty twenty Cory Booker? One for Cory Booker, by the way, this is binding whoever we this is like that first city, and I were up whoever wins this is ver- now getting one delegate. Yeah. Worry booker. Okay. All right. So gotten weeks. All right. I think somebody pitched Robin keep invent sport in like like episode four or five if I remember correctly. Yeah. These thirty fan. Like a million sports out there. Why would we like, I don't know? We're trying to sell like. You know ice to people who ate ice. Well, I don't know. James? Would you listen to any of these ideas as thirty two fans episodes? Yeah. Sure. Okay. Okay. Maybe thirty two fans. Yeah. Yeah. And then in terms of Ryan Ryan's mystery played it, I think it's actually hard to podcast about it. Because every episode is exactly the same. I don't know like how much there is to make fun of I feel like we've dunked on like four year old enough. Also. He was he's like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And really his parents there's much more to to dunk on except that they have like, you know, a worth and sell us half half a billion dollars. One emailed the podcast one this whole operations over. Right. Hope they're not with digits. Okay. All right. That being said James. Thank you so much for the the calls. Okay. All right. All right. Keep anything there that you want to ruminate about more, not really, you know, I have a sports podcast where I have to think of so many ideas that I would hate to like have this once the one almost I don't want any of those ideas for the sports podcasts not right now. But if Chester's listening to me like something he can hit me up, you know, sort of find me I would like to hear Chester invent a sport. Okay. If Chester has invented sport. By the way. Can I give you a Chester family update? Yes, please. I went out the night before Passover, I went out for dinner, just myself Alexander, Chester. And Dr Jen actually original thirty two fence. Sorry goal joins us at the end. Also. But oh, we went out for dinner. And Dr Jen is I think officially off the obsolete. I heard we had heard that on fans. Very nice time. She said that I am a good conversationalist. And now she's will take her off the opposite. Oh, okay. All right. Next up. This is going to be caller number ten here is Josh Joshua you there. Yeah. I'm here. Okay. You're on the clock. All right. So first of all keys before and Sam idea. The all draft podcast. So you take maybe six or so fun categories. And then you briefly each view drafts five of each category of peace. So just for some ideas. What you'd be drafting? I'll think it'd be best movie villains. Fancy name Steve places you'd want to live fast. Food restaurants all said, you a huge list. You can pick out whichever ones you like the best TV networks Christmas movies ninety sitcom characters. So these pick out six of the ones, you think would be the most fun. You have a host on maybe Chester or wake lawyer or like loom to act as the judge after each round. They say, okay, rob one or kiva one alternatively. You can have that person alternate between being the host and being wanted people drafting, and then Robert kiva judge between the other two. So how about that? Okay. Like it all. Drafts. Schrafft's? I kind of I liked the idea. And this is one of my things that I don't care for about fancy football. I they should not give you the list in ADP of what people are drafting, this is a Chester opinion, Chester like the wild west when I did fantasy basketball and fifth grade, rob after the first seven players we had to remember who was in the NBA and the Google in the middle of the us, Robby Krieger, S-Class guess, I'd like this idea without the list of all the things, and then there's more room to make fun of a person like you idiot. You didn't even draft, you know? Steve Kerr in the famous Steve draft bright. I like the idea I think listeners could submit ideas to Josh my tweak would be what if because I don't know. How interesting it is. If there's like a Mike bloom. Mike bloom type who's just deciding who wins what if we could get the audience involve what if like there could be like, a, rob. Like what if there's a third person on the line and you could extend Josh for a minute. If you need to like what if there's a third person on the line who sort of like making insta- polls. And maybe like they're like people are voting in real time. 'cause there's like a bunch of people right now, we're listening to this and like the and correcting us in real time, which I think is interesting. What if even if it's only ten or twelve voters like might be more useful than just like one way, bluer bloom or Chester's again, I'm ready to put you know, the all draft episode into our shortlist? Yeah. I agree. Yeah. I think it's really good. All right. Time is up that you want to extend Josh now because we already made it. I don't think we have any more questions for him on right now. Josh, thank you so much. Okay. All right. Thanks, josh. Okay. All right. Good. All right. Let's go to our next call. We've still ton of people on hold. I got I got a message from Cuba's childhood. Correspondent Andrew saying. Let me cut the line. I have no idea. How many people are in front of me? Thirty years of friendship, doesn't even get you along here. This is you're talking. This is Scott Chupak, Scott, Scott. All right, by the way. Yes. I just to give you a sense that I'm talking to Scott who called in at ten nine. So I don't think we're going to get. I don't over gonna get everybody today. But let's keep let's keep trying. Okay. Sky your from Seattle, right? Yes. He's on yet. Okay. Here is. Scott and okay here. He is Scott from Seattle. You're you're on the lines got I'm normally some Seattle. I'm right now in Las Vegas. I called to end my my room and extra hour because I didn't know when I was gonna get on. Okay. The wild haggis. Okay. Yeah. Guy. Okay. Thank you. So here's my idea. Is rabbi Akiva need to podcast. So this is kind of. Kind of an attempt to make something out of Robin. Akiba? Learn the Torah or maybe Robin, Akiva, read them again long. So so for rob sake. Rabbi, Akiva, a famous rabbi from the first entry. And I'm guessing they have something to do with got named. Sure. Yeah. So I learned about this. Because when I was a Sunday school know what I'll I got it is a as a book. So he stories about rabbi, Akiva, he was also famous for writing the tall. Mid has a bunch of Morrell boilers. Okay. Okay. So thinking this is hosted by Akiba's rabbi dad, hopefully, if we could get him. That's a big yet. Revolu? Toes? Kennedy ideas, we learn about the rabbi talk about some of their stories defied if they make any sense today. Maybe we try to make the rabbi Akiba story into an award-winning bio pic, okay, now, we're sort of monetize things. Now. He's got my attention. Yeah. Okay. Tiba? Is this interesting for you to explore the history of rabbi, Akiva, I it happens to be that. It's fascinating like everyone should check out his appeal page the more important question because I have so much familiarity with it is Rob's interesting for you. And I won't be offended. If you say, no, I mean. If it's it does not grip me, I have to be honest. Thought when people said, you should really do a biblical thing. I just don't think we like it you with these things it's hard to be funny because I feel like you're like to flip and people get offended or if you're too dry, then it's not really a comedy show. But you should read about that you read rub Yukido page for next week's episode. Ravioli needs a podcast is a good name. It is a good name is definitely a good idea. I literally had the same thought Scott. But I don't know rabbi, Akiva, needs the podcast. Fun fact about a kiva is I think this isn't freakonomics said, this is the most educated name the United States. I think I've mentioned the step for all right because I don't know Cuba's like going to school. All right, Scott. We are out of time. I'm sorry to say thank you for the good idea. Okay. Good luck in Vegas. Okay. All right. All right. He was a we're not gonna do rabbi, Akiva, no, not unless there's a real approaching Akiva at some point. Should we cut the time down to ninety seconds? Because a lot of do you wanna like should we cut the calls in a few minutes? Also, like people are normally people around whole deal idea. Let me see as of right after Scott's call. Let me just find where he was. That he might not. I think I lost my place. Also. So by the by estimate five ten. Fifteen twenty. I think we've got about twenty five people on on. Well, that's a lot by the way, everyone if people want to this to be a long episode than blamed Jordan Kayla, and if you or happy that it's the place survivor, New York, Brooklyn south, and he and he even lost. And now he's growing over. Okay. Yeah. All right. All right. So I'm gonna go to we're going to go the ninety seconds of cut the caucus back. Okay. Okay. No more cautious. But can we and let someone wants to come on and say can we cut if someone's like really not doing it? I can we just give them the boot. Or you think that's fine. That's fine might be. I think we could probably just like give them their ninety seconds. And not. I'd be humiliated by okay after waiting on hold for an hour. Okay. But this is John John. Okay. Oh, John John John here is John John line. John John you there. Here. John, john. Okay. You got ninety seconds on the clock. All right. I got three idea. So providence came off like four nights. And they learn about it. And then maybe, you know, do something relations. Okay. Second one. I guess, Robin. Kiva watched all four men to be all the movies. It can just be all for Benjamin. And then talk about you know, from starts to the end. So and then movies is big ask especially since one of them is like three three twenty or something like that. It's like ten hours of movies. Yeah. One more. It's also Rodney mckeever place who wants to be a millionaire, and I get the winner gets to at least maybe to the topic. We're next week. Okay. Are you putting up the million dollars? John, john. Because if you will play right now. I don't have the questions. So keep an eye of the home game of who wants to be a millionaire that could be that could be fun. I mean like we both get knocked out on the third question. And the podcast is over. We could note the way we could do it is we could have guests call up like this. And then we could just like ask them promise. People will cheat. That's my guess. I don't think it should be who wants to be a millionaire. I think is could be could be fun. I think of those three okay? Let's let's put that onto their. I mean, we episode was well received people would listen to, but we also do have which Tim's money which people excited about which is on the wheel right now. It's somewhat similar. Okay. All right. So maybe that could be a way. Okay. Judge chartres. Sorry about the lightning. John, john. Thank you. Oh, okay. All right. All right. There you go. There was John John. All right. Thirty thirty seconds on the clock. Let me just make sure I didn't skip somebody this one already had. This was no from Denver. Okay. Oh, nelson. Love this guy. Yes, friend. Yes. We stand Nelson from Denver. Absolutely now. Okay, nelson. You got ninety seconds. All right. So my pitchers weasing things act about I know, you guys like to crush like beloved TV shows and movies, but we're done for you. I would go to I'm db and read all the one star comments where most below shows like breaking bad game of thrones. And read those comments pretty layers people have reason there have. I think there's good shows are really bad like maybe read those much chose the movies. All right. So instead of us watching something crappy we talked about being that's widely well received should that be part of two beloved should we incorporate that kiva? Yeah. I actually liked the site did Nelson. The only issue is I feel like another podcast has done this. But I can't put my finger who did it. But I feel like someone has sort of taken the let's let Nelson get the rest of his time. Oh, sorry. Do you have more Nelson? No that was basically it. So this idea, but I just worry that we're jacking somebody's idea. Little bit. No, you can spread it restaurants or anything. Everything's a little seed read the one on yelp reviews. What people are different takes people one-star reviews. Podcast that would take maybe. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good idea. Okay, nelson. You waiting for us to do another live shows you're going to come out at the Denver airport. Gua- Guam anywhere. You're under underneath the catacombs for sure. The Denver airport. All right Nelson. True. Yes. Twenty twenty. All right. Thank you. Oh hickenlooper. Chester's dad was his college roommate Hickenlooper. The best friend. He's he's a congressman. He knows he hangs out jangled him. So wow. Look at Nelson's best, friends congressperson. Wow. Boy, high society Elizabeth Warren Cory Booker three way race whoever calls up next week. John John's pick which I would have paid fifty dollars for. But but the next person call up Clova shar, bro. I could feel it. Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. All right. All right. That was Nelson. Okay. Going this that one I think that was just Nelson. Okay. And this is either terrier, Jerry. Let's okay. Is this Terry Terry Terry with a T you your time? Okay. Well, the main thing I was good call about xactly what Josh's idea was to draft cast where you got draft different things. Good name, though, the good name. And some other things I had were. Season. Four episodes five of yesteryear is a big brother episode. I don't know. How throw you guys with that show, but with other mildly so with all the big brother coverage, you guys do it'd be great to have you guys talked about Michael Malley and his time in the big brother house and the episode as a whole. There's been a lot of Luke Perry recently. So for the crappy movie diaper Buffy, the vampire slayer the movie, which was pretty poorly received what's really and has Luke Perry in it. So that I thought that would be a good thing to keep Luke Perry theme that's happened over the last few more, Luke. And then the last thing is my brother-in-law's actually in Ilias, so just season three episodes seven that show. Okay. All right air from territory. So fifteen seconds. Cobo, terry. Are you klobuchar guy l'auberge, bro? And okay, fine. No all right for sharp fan. Yeah. You have Alexsandr Chester for that. Okay. All right time is up with Terry, Terry. Thank you so much. Okay. All right. Those extend the calls are going to be evermore important now. We are. To the ninety second range. Okay. So what really we say alias? I'm not super interested in the vampire slayer for the crappy movies diaper. No, I would sooner do an in the fish bowl. Which is I believe in the in future. Mailbag some may have been him who suggests the season for episode five of. Yes, dear where they go into the big brother house, which features a bunch of big brother alumni, no offense, the Terry. But I think that's the the the last idea would do everything we've heard today. I'm just not a yes, dear guy. I guess. The L F C. Oh, you guys should do that. But I don't know. You see? That's that's the uric with like alleged wedge on the thirty two thirty. Yeah. Brandon off season big brother podcast Taryn print, Melissa. Okay. Sounds good. All right. Let's see you who's up next. This is caller number fifteen. John is a sure right. Chuck Chuck oak. Okay. Okay. Here is just seven. All right. Chuck. Are you there? Hello. I'm here shock. You have ninety seconds. Okay. My idea is rob. And Akiva have the Robin, Akiva attack. Basically all the case. The case some area to saved by the bell up Assode, you guys create a fake fan with a lot of I guess just one or two people from the wand off probably, and you know, just how you create your own start a make a story about going number one. And why you guys broke up and Robin, Akiva, tack story behind the music and narrated by the ghost of Casey Kasem. Do we have like original music? Is there an accompaniment like a score that someone's doing we're getting Wilford America and Tim in the studio? Yeah. I feel like they would be into it. I I'm not forcing anything upon anyone. Of course. I feel like there's at least one or two people in the one with the enjoyed. But I'm having a, and I know I could write scenarios for it. And I'm sure that people who are interested in waiting at least a few like I dunno give you guys ideas for what to do. And you guys are the masters of improv and just play off each other. So I'm sure you guys could make money. Guess charts to the billboard number one. It was the story of the renege attack. I like the name nap attack. I think this is so high concept like your gives me like the high of just thing but much work we'd have to do for. This would be a lot of work if it comes up on the wheel, and then to have to be ready to go with that episode like who's like do we have someone who'd want to put this together? I mean, not that. I think I'm going to pick up like it just seems like such a daunting task. It's like he's thinking too big almost. Even though it's it's just I think it's like, yeah. Maybe this could be sort of like the premise for the rob Akiva TV series. But I I don't know how to pull that off as a podcast, and I don't even know to explain it like, you know, the listener before. So mad elevator pitches. I don't even know what the elven so complicated. You know, I'd like the ideas to be able to splaine. It's the parody of thirty year old saved by the bell up is so oh. Even like when we cook. But save by the bell. All right. Chuck. Thank you so much. Thank you. Chuck. Thank you. All right. Akiva. Right. So we're not we're not putting that through. All right. Let's go to caller number sixteen that is going to be. Couldn't be topic. Okay. Let's talk to Cindy. Cindy, are you there? Yes. I. Cindy. No ninety seconds. Cindy. Okay. So my idea is raw than Akiba take on there. And so we the one gathered school the one-star news of the negative, and we have one of your lives grades them. As though she is your, and then you just discussed on how awesome the. And. Yeah, that's basically it. Okay. Do you think that this will encourage people to leave us negative feedback? Yeah. I think that's beard here. Because I don't think they have funny negative feedback. Yeah. Yeah. That's bear. Yeah. Yeah. It could it could encourage the negative beat that we have to like the gathered negative feedback that already his there. And so like, we're not gathering new beat that starting now like when chose and negative feedback the league. I don't like to give suggest to the hater. No. I know. I know we want to suffocate the haters. Yeah. I don't like to give them negative attention. I liked to instead reward the lover. All right. Well, Cindy, thank you. Thank you for the call. All right. Thank you. Okay. All right. I think we go rapid fire. All right now. But maybe soon we go, right? I mean, just time check. So I think we've got another half hour of calls. Look, I'm having fun. Are you having fun? Having a lot of fun frigging by by my estimate. We've got about still another fifteen to twenty people on hall. Okay. All right. So to stop people from calling in, and then we'll just try and rip through as many. Okay. Stop people from calling our? But maybe anybody who calls pass this is could be out of luck. Okay. All right, and including people call them before. And then we'll see what you call two hours into the call in show. So yeah, that's on you. Okay. All right here. We are next up. This is caller number seventeen for Keith anandas will will. Okay. We finally got to will is making his second appearance on the podcast here. Kazin. All right. Will you have? Okay. What? Start restart your time. Okay. Ninety seconds starts gang. All right from idea is childhood trauma. So there you guys talk about like seems or movies TV shows that really like freaked you out as a kid, and like stuck with you or like listeners submit their ideas for like seeing from TV shows or movies that traumatize them when they were kids, and you guys watch them and talk about them talk about if they're like appropriate to be in children's media, or if they're like to extreme and yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. So things that freaked us out when we were kids, and we're gonna go back and rewatch them. I feel like I don't know if we need to do that. I don't want to. Yeah. You have to have to keep his interesting to you. First of all the name will, you know, we love you will the name, Robin, Akiva, childhood trauma is astonishingly bad. Really sends a different message. Yeah. Yes. It is funny because it's all spooky stuff one which I've discussed that nauseam on the podcast to like, I don't wanna revisit, you know, I'm already going to be assaulted by frequent Chucky my Nevis coming out with a new movie, we got Edward Scissorhands gonna get rebutted soon. Like, I don't want to hear from these people anymore. More of an Harry commercials on he. Yeah. Forget it. Yeah. Being rebooted soon. Also, probably right. I don't think so I- Spielberg would be against it. All right. Well, I don't know if we're going to do childhood Trump on. Doc. All right. Well, take care. Bye. Right. Sorry. All right. Let's go to our caller number eighteen year. Claire, okay. Claire is on the line and here comes Claire Claire. Hello. Can you hear me? Yes. Claire what's going on? All right. So my idea is called a, Robin. Akiva are getting Palade. Okay. So basically, you would go through a bunch of like swindler or like con artist techniques, and you have maybe like eight or ten to talk about whether it's like the Nigerian prince scam or the Monte scheme or Shelby GMs things like that. And you'd have some kind of like a source of info, I guess whether it's like a guest or some kind of somebody puts together like a package for you to learn a bit more about each of the tricks. And maybe like if it's something particularly like sleight of hand related you could even want to short video or something. And then, you know, break it down like is this good trick with this will me with this will my grandma if I had to do one of these tricks, like which one do I think I could Belossi and in some cases, there might be like particularly relevant to real world examples, or or things from pop culture, like a Linda the bottle deposit from Seinfeld or like, you know, Dorton bell for wolf of Wall Street type things. Okay. So. Yeah. That's that's basically it keep hearing about scams. I like the idea my concerns are. I think a lot of them would be visual like the actual con artists. Some of it's like how to steal someone's wallet or something. That's but also, I know this going to sound strange. But I think it's somewhat similar to like the Eric Stein episode. We're going to do where we're just talking about like scammy. Well, if there was a way to do it like, we're like, okay. Antonio comes in and tells us about like, the you know, the home AC duct repair scam. Right. And tells us about different scams that are going on. I do think that that is potentially interesting. But yeah, what what if Claire like emails in a week or two, but like has sort of like a win or somebody else like has a well-thought-out like here the three to five scams that I would talk about. And like, you know, really maybe start do a little research and we'll see like all right? The Henry on the paper. Like can we can put this on the wheel because it's a fully-fledged idea? Down. Okay. All right. But Claire we are we are out of time. But we have to move on and less akitas using his extent call. No, I I sounds Canadian. So I'm not gonna ask her. Are you Canadian date? Yes. I am Canadian. As a quarter Canadian person recognize. Okay. All right clear. Thank you so much. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Thanks. All right. Let's go to our caller number nineteen. This is. From New York. Okay. Mic from New York. All hope it's not the, you know. That Mike who Mike white? No my Clark. Okay. All right. Mike from New York. Chari TV. It is Michael TV to you, babe. Michael Clarks is here. Okay. All right there. Ninety seconds. All right. So my first idea is Robert, Akiva, go direct to video. So you would find Nazis for movies that they're sequels went direct to video and you could try to throw in fake ones and try to get real. Which is aren't you could try to come up with your own directive video sequel collaborate, I'd like, oh, what would the videos people Titanic? They that's that yet. Okay. The pressure of the ninety seconds. But I can't think of it. Judge dying and. What do you think about direct to video or directed DVD? I don't know why we still call it video rob who did Michael say he was voting for Buddha judge. Okay. Mayor Pete mayor Pete. All right. It seems complicated. The direct to video again, if any of these ideas would be helped if somebody was like the expert that was coming in and they quiz the same thing with Clare. Like if Michael wants to be like here, I've got five ideas, he doesn't have to spoil them. But like, here's an example of like a real one in a fake one. What do you guys think? Like, I think that would go a long way to getting it on. But I do think there's work to be done and Robin. I don't necessarily want to do is other. We don't wanna do that work. It's it's it's like if we already know what's going on like the Tonio podcast one of the reasons that works because we're like totally surprised when we come in, right? Yeah. Pitching us on new information. Okay. All right. Anything else for Michael, Akiva? No while he was on this phone four more Yankees. Got edit to the aisle. Oh, no. All right. So all right, Michael. Thank you. Okay. Thanks, mike. All right. If I I cannot believe he did not plug pilots and once during ninety seven call. Okay. All right. Let's go to caller number twenty. Mcallister McAllister mcalister. Mcalister? Hey, guys. How's it going? It's going. Great mcallister. All right. You are on the line ninety seconds. Kind of that. I'm gonna keep as bogus. A road trip stories crate, you plan ride or already fun trout live inch. You may have been on. I've been Cuba order delivery or each order each other's food for a week until. Fries expensive, man. And this fine. I had a tells from the crypt season three. Due. Spooky who's what is there? Tales from the crypt sees three ever said seven. No, it's called that reluctant vampire, and as George went from cheers. No, okay. We like, we're wind guys. So I do like tales from the crypt of. But I think that keep was so scared. Yeah. I'm so scared. I used to the Chris keeper I don't remember. I remember being scared of. But I also have thought about it. And so long that I'm not even sure he has does a little too much wordplay to be scary. Yeah. That is true. And it was on Nickelodeon. Right. Like how scary on HBO? Oh, I'm mixing up with while. While your lordship. You're. Yeah. Oh, forget it. I'm not what HBO harsh. Oh, you crazy. Jordan. Jordan dark. Okay. All right. Which is what's cheers. We like George win so much other idea. It was Robert order delivery. And then rob keeps bogus journey. We delivery was too similar to their other idea. And then journey Wilson have an idea road trip, also, Robin. I who knows we might be able to Minnesota if. Yes, okay, road shipping McAllister, we're out we're out of time and mechanics hall. Thanks. Thanks. Okay. Yeah. I would watch the tales from the crypt episode. But. Scary. I like in Sala shows. Okay. All right. Let's go to the this area code. And this is Jim Jim. Okay. Here comes Jim caller, number twenty one. Hey, guys, Jim age ninety seconds. All right. My idea is ran up clip bracket. So listeners would send in their favorites. Ten to twenty second clips that could be collected by me or by Akiva intern. And then zakat season. It would be on the board flip Brown. Okay. These movies TV shows or anything. No, you're clip clips from your show with from your from big Jim big complain about the show is it's not self referential enough. This this. And. Okay. I like this the the greatest clip from Romney does it have to wait all the way till bracket season. Hired a nice thing about it. It would take a while to make this why send in Oakland. Yeah. You might have to go through everything. Yeah. Submit clips, and if somebody could cut them. And what rating different strokes ultimately nothing that we already know the winner. I like the I like, the the initially I like the idea that he's willing to do it. But it's just so self referential. It's like you're not going to say it. But like the I don't know. Okay. All right. Jim. We are out of time. Thank you, Jim. All right. All right cool charts, by the way. Chartres clan guy. Okay. All right. Is that what they call it? One man show at this point. None of the favorites. No one's that. No. We don't think we've had any Biden Sanders. Kamala. Any of those people? Okay. All right. Let's go to our next caller caller number twenty two. And Andrew, okay. Ooh. This is childhood friend. Andrew. Okay. Oh, no. He might have gone away. Andrew now. He's he's everything. He's a low talker injury yellow Tucker. Okay. Why is? Do you have guests over in the other room? I think it's just this phone is at work because he always talk like kiva. No, I think there's something wrong with this phone isn't even his voice as might not even be the injury. No, okay. Andrew. We barely hear you. See sounds like he's underwater does Airdrie. Last chance we gotta get the strain move on. Okay. Enjoy my friend just said, it's not me. Andrew didn't know so many injuries. My name is Robyn Akiba just can't agree or the big fight extend this you too. I will be given a series or pro such as C should become a third anchor permanent. Yes. Truth physicians, and you'll have a series of these protests and the at the end you'll have a whole near to who's the better debater. Okay. We are debating a it's like a it's like a cliffhanger till the next episode because unless listeners are literally listening in live. They we won't know wins the next it's basically, again, what are the stakes to these? I always ask. These I want them to put up like five hundred bucks their own money say like, I'll give you guys five hundred bucks. Then rub. And I will say yes, right away. This is like, Robin. Akiva, I take. Yeah. Which by the way, I think is a pitch in the mail bag. We haven't got also we get a lot of Robin. Akiva have a debate. That's that's been a common mailbag suggestion. I don't think it's a bad idea. I just don't know what the format and structure would be okay. Finishes. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Keep going. With this podcast, all the it. Okay. Okay. All right. That's good. All right. So time time is up with Andrew. He's good. Okay. Andrew we got we got to let you go. Okay. All right. Not a crazy idea. But I don't know. I like the idea of people could trick us into getting a big fight. Yeah. I would say what's the biggest fight? We've ever got in on a podcast that you were. I said that you were a self-loathing nerd on. If you're not listener listened to episode one hundred of the Seinfeld podcast. We get into a big fight. But that's about about it. Yeah. Because you hate all things nerd culture. No, I've come around. Okay. All right. I'm I'm a I'm a loading nurse. I mean. Let's take this caller. This is. Caller, number twenty three. The number of Fishman, Nick Fishman is here. Number twenty three. The number of Michael Jordan star of the conspiracy. Pod. Okay. Let's go to Nick Space Jam. Hello. I guess Nick. How are you? I am amazing ninety seconds frame next. Yeah. Oh, my best idea. Short, Robin Akiba become tacos, I provide you guys to three or four episode ones, some enemies and put a walk you through it and see how you guys do just like the website that John goes to. The crunchy roll dot com. Maybe maybe just I'll pick some like I. Accu one. So this is the word for something that Akiva are gonna watch anime. We're going to mean, we're not gonna get it. We're gonna make fun of it. And then we're going to get dragged by just. Yeah. Yeah. I'll pick one we lot of enemy listener doesn't watch. Anime doesn't want to hear about it. That's my concern. That's fair. Yeah. Okay. There enough. Okay. Kiva is into hen tie. I think right. That is I'll be I know it's I know it's like thirty thing. And I don't know what his wait. Let me ask. Let me ask you while you're on the line. Do you know who you've been Jesus? Why? Oh, Onen GI issues on the genius. No, no. I do know you g I don't answer 'cause my sister her her Twitter handle right now as I love you engineer. I dunno you Jesus. What full metal alchemist? No oh. Okay. So that's my sister's into I don't know. I'm like over twice. I don't know what she like get your sister. As a guess we already had or once. I don't think we need to get her head that having twice. Yeah. I think this is going to be a pass for us, Nick. Yeah. I just know if one of us knew something the other didn't that I think that usually how it works like if none of us know, anything strictly. Okay. All right, Nick. Thank you so much. Okay. All right. Keep a we are under one two three four five six seven eight people still on hold. Okay. We could finish it or and I think so I think so I think so but keep track let's not like new six and leave to people on hall Corey be says he got he got booted. He's upset he was on at the beginning pullback on the callback or UB. Not not Cory Booker. Right. He's mad. He only has one vote so far. All right. This is Matt. Any? Hey mad. How are you? You got ninety seconds. Who? So my years, Robin, Akiva have a bucket list. So you go through a bunch of online bucket list that people say you guys talk about what your bucket lists are. I'm sure very exciting to people who don't leave their houses. Found the issue there. Yeah. And then and then from there, you've you create a bucket list for all listeners that are things that we have to talk through also things that you guys have already crossed off your bucket list that might be common things like survive or something like that. Yeah. So all right. Akiva, making a bucket list. I think we're like the worst people to do this because I feel like we have very wayball dreams. These like, it might be fun though to have something like like a bucket list is, you know, you know. You know, get into a Twitter war with t dub like I feel like we've both done this. I it's a good idea. I think it falls into the category of more segment than full podcast your immune like, it would be a funny ten minute bit. I don't know of stretched out for an hour if we'd be able to maintain it. You know, probably there. Yeah. Okay. Now, you've got fifteen seconds. And then anyway, doing a bunch of who's on any way games, improv games having a post on bring will on. So he can do music and stuff like that. Okay. Would you like whose lines anyway, improv games? I don't know. I have not a big fan of improv podcasts. Like, I don't listen to all your will. It's not a bad idea. I just don't know if we're the like you should get good impresses do it. No, the Rob's Goodwin. But like, I have no improv background so zome natural baby. Well, I think that's what improv implies. All right. So matt. Thank you. Thanks. Okay. Okay. All right. Let's never that. Which Matt that was it could be there's like one hundred mats in our universe. I didn't recognize the voice. Okay. So let's go to caller number twenty five. Actually, I think I missed a call here. Let me try this. Who's this? Childhood correspondent. I saw five inches. Okay. All right. All right, childhood. You do your parents have the state. I remember your parents phone number from when we were kids. They have the same number k member famous. I won't say it on air. All right. All right. I'll tell your parents hurry. Okay. All right. Can you believe this? Let's make more work. Okay. All right. Let's go ninety seconds with keep his childhood friend. Correspondent andrew. I'm gonna keep a paver that I don't robs is keeping knows what his is. And keep it has to watch sucks. Tell the story. I don't remember the whole story. I just remember, rob. He won the bet twelve years old. Yeah. And he made me watch the Marx brothers movie duck soup. And I said watch this is like nineteen ninety four and I've never watched it. And I never had to watch. Yeah. This trying to get to repay a debt from twenty six years ago to watch duck soup, the movie ever seen more brothers movie around twenty years. But which one is for Kibo doesn't like anything scary. Keep us maybe three the first time, man. Oh, so that was. For one deal. You watch scream and I watched duck soup. I think that's what it was. Which is. Okay. Scream with are chunkys fear. Yeah. Keep it love soup. Yeah. That's true. And I like duck. I never really maybe maybe we'll feed rob inter Demi could food ideas for for rob. If we make him keep kosher for a week. I. Beyond the classics. But there could tell. Yeah. Yeah. Really? Not too Bry. Lots of can't give them Matza during monsoon season, though. That's an issue. Rob. What did you think? You'd like muscle Bri, Matz what Brian is. Yeah. I don't even know I've had. Hey, it's milk. It's like French toast. Okay. Embarrassing stories from I was little that. I'm gonna make rob be about. Cut out of the podcast. Nothing in particular. They all kind of blank more stories that you're you're father and your sisters. All right. Well, Akiva, unless you want to end the call. I don't think we have time to get. I mean, I love speaking to Andrew. But issue, I'm sorry. We couldn't put we couldn't put watch. Throne. So he doesn't even get the Lancaster pawn in the in the pay your debts thing right engine watch game of thrones. Now, I don't have any of those. He doesn't want to game of thrones night at city field. I did not. Watch it. Why would you? I think people probably went to a Mets game that didn't doesn't watch game of thrones, Rob Andrew, and I were and went to school from grades segment through college. We were we were sixth grade lab partners. We were senior year of college life partners, Andrew from zero to one hundred what percentage of the work that I do in our chemistry lab. Basically. No, I did teachers speaking keep on going to charge you a extend to call on this one. Okay, fine. We're not using any. Okay. All right. I'm honored. The andrew. All right. We that we keep going through calls, and then the number of people on hold is not going down. So let's oh boy going. All right. Thank you, Andrew. Okay. All right. Bye. All right. So kiva got dock day. Extend a call for them when I don't wanna hear that we played favorites. And then let somebody go over. Okay. Got them for stay on the line for two hours, though. Yeah. All right here is. Not. Okay. All right. We talked. Okay. Here is our next. She are. Okay. J C way met Stewart claims to be the mystery Malachi got it. All right. Another Canadian his voice, I want to I should've asked my friend who's voting for. But maybe I don't want enough. All right. You're is Jason Curtis Rivera. All right. My hold on. Okay. Okay. My dear is rough kiva need a musical. I mean, this goes one of two ways one is more fun. One more practical, the more fun money is a storyline. We go through some Robin Akiva story, and we have people write music, and it's like a nice fun musical that we go for like an hour. And it's like a fun podcast. The second option is just like a wand off. That's very Robin keeping the podcast beamed. And it'll be fun and people are talented. And we were the Robin keeps to a podcast wand off is inconsideration from earlier in this podcast. But explain to me how the musically you would work. So it would be my is for the creation of Robin. Akiva, need a podcast. So we go through some fictionalized story of the creation of Robin. Need a podcast where their songs that progress? The plot as in your favorite musical up. If your favorite who's doing? What are we can't do it? I need JC. Are we need a an absolute like I'm going to do this not not me? I'm not. Writing musical. I think you're listening to the people and people writing the musical. I e me will from America whoever's. Okay, you know, I I write I write. Like when I think, so here's my my feedback to you is right. The musical when it's ready. We'll put it on the wheel. But that's a big big ask because. If a wheel spot, I know he's talented guy. But I feel like if he writes absolute musical, we will put it on the wheel a full musical. But how does this work like singing or part Senator? No, he's like recruiting where I go. Yeah, we'll go through the scripts and then recorded song. And then it's just play the songs when they come up any there could be guys going through the or guest host or myself goes. You wouldn't put that on the wheel. I guess why not one? Maybe if he ever gets around the finishing a fan problem. You're almost in a race with Phil Mary now who was too busy until we said, hey, do you wanna come on an episode or you don't have to do a lot of work? And then she was like, oh, yeah. I got my whole week free. Yeah. Job. I don't have a judge just teasing. Okay. All right. So that if you can right if you can write the Rene musical, I think that we can make that a podcast the years twenty twenty two nd Aspen off the air for years, Robin. Get an Email from JC are the musical ready to bring the band. I mean, or then we hear that. It's a, you know, a off Broadway hit musical, but we're not the. Yeah. We know we know residual Jason. Thank you. Thank you. Jason. All right. Thank you. All right. Let's keep going to caller number twenty seven believe it or not keep it twenty people. I mean, if you play back, the argument, we had you didn't think we'd have any callers. I know you wouldn't think. Just for my Twitter. I don't remember what the debate was that. You said, hey, I want to hide the phone number. And I said, okay, you're right. You're right. But you didn't tweet it out. We would have had one hundred calls callers, if you tweeted it out one hundred callers, I know I knew you did the right thing. I'm just set. Yeah. I posted in the patron group to I guess if I had hit it in the thing. And just said look in there, we probably would have only had eight or ten hearts, you're probably right. Okay. All right. Staying correct. Let's see. All right. All right. Here's corby. Okay. Thank you. Okay. We have on Cory Booker is here. Everybody. That's right. I. Not Cory Booker. Okay. Ark are Corey. Corey be of ninety seconds. All right. So I have two things the first one is back in for. I know shut up to him had an idea for putting a separate wheel spot on the wheel for a separate wheel with bad ideas. And you've got I just wanted to tweak that a little bit and do like that idea gong show. So basically you pick or maybe have it up for poll have a bunch of the bad ideas out there. You guys have maybe like a minimum time that you have to do it for and then you can kinda ring the gong if it's going really poorly and just kind of go through a bunch of bad ideas on one thing podcast. And then the other had I've been I didn't make sure that this was vetted yet or had never been pitched. But would be rob Makita run for president which would be like not not politics related, but kind of podcast related like you're running for president of the podcast. You got. Food. Well, sure, sure, that's fine too. But you could you know, get a team fans that would be on your campaign team you'd make a platform that you would make attack ad against each other play them on the podcast. And maybe at the end you have a poll on Twitter or something for who should become the president. So so all have kiva, and I are running against each other for the for the nomination for the presidency of Robin to podcasts. But I mean for the pedants think, but that's a funny idea. I just have no idea how it works logistically. Like we promising green new deal or they podcast Pacific promises. Like. I was really thinking it would be podcast acidic. But if you guys want to get into that stuff. I don't know no idea makes much more sense. I don't know why they would vote for us based on our politics and explained to be I'll use it extended call here just because we are out of time with with with Corey be explained to be heavy gung show bad idea would work like are as the podcast where it's like, hey, this is Robin. Akiva, have all bad ideas. And so this is the first bit idea, and we do it until he can't take it anymore. And then the next bad idea starts. Yeah. That that would come idea 'cause we have this spreadsheet full of ideas that were rejected, and and maybe we have some way to filter some of them through based on the potential viability, and you have some prep work. But. Then that's that's fair and the logistically might be hard. But I'm guessing there would be a fair amount of them on there that wouldn't require kind of work. Keep it. Let's get into duck soup. Okay. All right tech soup opens up. And then now we're going into like oh Power Rangers season three episode seven. Okay. Okay. Yeah. It is for sure. The president ideas worth discussing more, right? I yeah. I just think it would be. That the podcast has a president. And it's either MIR you, yeah. Like wouldn't be fun. If on the node all's like either, you're Stephen were in charge because you're the president's going at all. No at all. Like, you don't knowing soda just gets like some pride. What if like you're in charge? What if so I'm gonna guess it is rob is a podcast. You are technically charge. It's interesting. I wonder if it should be like an ongoing thing as opposed to like one podcast. Okay. Yeah. Could be running bit. We promised to running on the show like say, there's an election coming up. And then continue like, rob rob says like, you know, that gets three spots, and I say, no it gets one. And then, you know, people could vote now that we can't then go around our butts person. Oh, that's true. That is the problem. But maybe we need like a separation between church. They had. All right. We've got six more people on hold. So we got. All right. Thank you. Okay. All right. All right. Let's go to this is a nine one. These ghoulish. Oh, man is he just calling you you're out filibuster until the podcast. No. I am. I am here to give an idea. Okay. All right. Here to tell. Yes. Yeah. No. I'm here to tell Cuba. I believe you shout out on the or plug on the podcast because money or Yari. It was on the thirty two fans mock draft was taken in the fifth round. So I think one that okay? Okay. So intense seconds left. And a waste of time. Okay. Jordan keilor's has seated his time to Akiva. Yes, kiva. Yeah. He so basically, we made a bad and the winner of the bed got plug on the other ones podcast. Jordan is saying which I did not know that he won the bet and the winner the bet gets a plug. So I would like to plug the podcast this week and survivor starring rob sister to Jordan daily both on the call right now. Listen to it who's the guest this week is AJ mass. Okay. Who's next week Liana Boris? All right. Okay. And I'm going on his podcast, NEC's, Jordan and got ten seconds left. What do you got for us, thirty two seconds? I three have Robin kiva watch fake survivor. You guys watch one episode of one of these family pieces of survivor, and you whole week of our HA you recap episodes. You have episode all within the same podcast this this thing. I know I'm I'm such. Yeah. I do think that Robin kiva needs podcast exists as sort of a I mean, we do brands steal season. But I think that the last thing we want to do on Rene is more survive more survivor. I agree. I one. Really? About our HP, not enough survivor talk. I feel like that should not be a complaint. Okay. All right. What's better? What's better this idea or you guys cook food for your for your family and your family rates your food? Yes. No, this ideas better. Okay. All right. Jordan. I think I'm gonna need an extra couple of minutes before twist tonight. Okay. You guys do some schedule. They Jameson Email. Does I do have to do something that I don't talk about podcasts. Okay. All right. That's called lunch. All right. All right. Thank you. All right. We didn't need extra talk to my. You hang up you hang up. All right. Let's call it. Love us like after the one nine woo burden. Now Jordan now that Jordan back the back bags orange. Okay. Let's let's see if this is him on. Hey, it's my other phone, okay? Jordan. All right. We need a throbbing Chiba do banter voted on by users or a listeners. They go. Yes. Is that or should we can we can jump in? Okay. Well, do start the fire. Keep okay. And you talk about the little phone. We start the fire go around and see how much you know, from the phone. I like the idea going once on. Variety show is use a bunch of small ideas that can't fill an entire podcast and just the smaller ideas on one, okay? And the worst idea of the day Akiba needs a survivor. Oh. Yeah. Okay. I don't want to put any work into that though. I'll make it now sitting shirtless in my underwear doing a podcast. Who's who's casting directors? They'll forward it to the FBI. Okay. All right. It was the first one that was. Basically, I real quick like PTI banter, where we're we are bantering on specific topics. We have anything that's like that. No, let's go put through Bandra. I think is scheduled to come back. I think what a couple of suggested. And I decided there was because banter belongs in the on the strata Matic twenty twenty sided. Yeah. Because it's been done. All right. We insert the fire. I mean, how would you want to go and get into very funny? The doors day red China, Johnny Ray, Sal, any of those people alter wind chill. Jody coming. Just like, I empty bagging people. We're going to be like, you know, a googling everyone who they are. Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon Studebaker, Richard Nixon melody, it's a funny idea. I don't think we need to do is God cast should be in the worst idea than like gong show and variety show of that. I mean, that's like more of like a structure, then then, but if we have three things that are like on the like wheel waiting room that we think could be all in one podcast. Somebody should write to us and pitch us that and yeah, give us give us like a four or five ideas on merge them somehow survivor tape. Okay. That's probably gonna be. All right. Thank you, Jordan. Thanks to nose. Good. Okay. All right. All right. Let's go to caller number thirty today. We go to sopping thrifty thirty two. Okay. All right here is here is Steph. Okay. Steph. Is a Steph be. Steffi? I believe the first caller on the on the praying. The listeners episode staff, how are you? I'm good. I'm also the the founder of total idealize. Okay. This is your idea. I was actually wondering today. This is your baby. And you got thirty seconds of name. Yeah. I couldn't I couldn't remember who was all right? Steph hit us. So my idea is the guys get either one of those hunt cower boxes or like an escape. Embarks? Maybe have Clark host and try to sell. Okay. So we're doing like a basically a escape room type puzzle. They were kind of ruining it for people. I feel like the people at hunter killer would not appreciate it if we solved it on a podcast. Yeah. Is there is there a big element to that too? I'm sorry Steph. They're unique. They're not it's the same. So that being said, I kind of I liked the idea that you, and I are working on something. But maybe it's like one of these things where it's like, a logic puzzle of like, you know, somebody comes on and his like. Like a man is in a room with no windows and no doors, but he escapes. How did he do? Right. Eric Clark writes like he wrote in the scape. One for Facebook. That is in and like people saw through the Commons. So, you know, it's tough. We have some kind of stuff worked up. I don't when I offer him. Like, robin. Akiva, solve riddles. Yeah. I'd almost like to pitch is this, and then we'd have to think about it. I came up with the idea was I was listening with him in the car. Start New York episode when Mr.. Yeah. Yeah. No, no. That's what he thought on gang doing like it is. Yeah. I think it's there's something there. But I don't think there's enough to put it onto the wheel. How about Robin Akiva, DVD at times, crosser puzzle? The why would that be I mean? Yeah. But how about I would say, yes, if the idea was we cannot cheat. We got a few phone difference. We can achieve and we literally can't stop podcast that we finish it even like. It's like four days. I would say, yes. Right. We are out of time. I'm sorry. You said thank you for for your idea today, which was a big hit. Enjoy. Okay. All right. Let's go to the this is our episode thrifty thirty two by the way. Okay. Let's go to our next caller caller number thirty one. And that is. Aaron Glenn Corey b. No way would be called back. Now, we spoke to. Yeah. No corby. Did you call back? No, I just never hung up. Okay. All right. Never hung up. Okay. All right. So we will get to thrifty thirty two then. Okay. So then here is going to be thirty one. Is it is it we got two left. Okay. This is Matt is this isn't a math that we already talked to right? I don't think. So. Okay. You know, man. All right, man. How are you? This is going to be good. I'm doing pretty good. I'm sitting in Bangkok Thailand right now. Are you go calling us from Bank talks a Bangkok Thailand? Okay. Ninety cents for Matt. All right. So my the ah is, Robin. Akiva, get roasted. I think maybe the of the are happy universe. So. Yeah, you guys obviously would take a little bit of prep work ahead of time. But I think that it could be wrapped up in a nice package. So obviously, you guys would take some time to roast each other. You could have a couple of other prominent members of the are have universal on the day. I want to hear the day. Yeah. Let's see what Mattis with us on the panel. I mean, Chester coal Akiva, writing a ton of jokes. Yeah. A sister. I think you get a working writer's room together to help help some of these guests on help for the speakers. So yeah. And then my last part is that you could include maybe like a, Robin. Akiva, read means leat segment. Fans and their fans their best hot take rows of you guys. And so that's the other. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I like this idea to how do you feel about your a, Robin? Akiva, I like it. I'm a big roast guy. Yes. I want to be a little selective in terms of the panel. Because I think that we we don't want anybody who's gonna come in and get us. Cancel right. Yeah. Or get themselves cancelled frights. I think the problem, I think Missy would be really funny guest. But I don't she wouldn't know any jokes when she doesn't know us. We'd have to get her to listen episode, Robin, Robin, Akiva, get roasted. I do. Yeah. It's a good idea. I believe it has been suggested ready. But you know, we're we're moody people sometimes we don't like an idea. And then we like it. L E Lascher would be really good roaster. She would be yes, you become in Royal? She wouldn't shoot stress we need. We have at this. Matt a number eight the eighth Mattis calling today. Can we get to I don't know fourth? But we may have been Yuli times. You're not sure. Yeah. I have the second map by my notes, but go for it. Can we? Like, I feel like we need to get a writer's room together. We can't physically add this to the wheel until people have sort of committed. They have what if we do this Minnesota what effect? That's the Minnesota podcast. We like. Wow, Airbnb, and we just do the roast of Robin. We would be limited by then who was there. And I feel like that. It's going to be Missy to come to Minneapolis. Right. I think that actually it might it might do better as a audio as recorded podcast. Okay. Yeah. It definitely would work as recorded podcast met. Why don't you message me after the podcast? And maybe well, I'll set you up with some people, and you can try and put together a writer's room. And then when you have like more like, hey, we've got some jokes. And then we'll add it to the wheel. Okay. Because it will take a lot right? It would take a lot to put this together in just one week's time. Right. Rub. It would take probably a little bit of like, I think I would start a Google doc start writing roast jokes as we go along. And then you have to know the roasters because we're not just roasting each other. You know, we're roasting. And we can't really rose people were non-participants. Okay. Only roasting people who opt in basically gesture. We don't care if chesser and we'll keep our ops. And also that's good throw invited observed idea. Okay. All right. Thank you met man Bangkok. All right. And then finally the final call on episode number thirty two and the caller number thrifty thirty to our final call of the day is going to be. Allison. Oh, sin. Okay. Allison, you will have the last word. Can I just say something before starts? Yes. That lasts. Matt is a Tulsa Gabbard guy for sure. Is a what guy Tulsi Gabbard? He's definitely tells the Gabbard. Okay. I'll take your word for it. Okay. Allison, this is a lot of pressure to be the last Gus. But maybe it'll make you more likely to take my. Idea. For it. Alison, ignore Keven restart your time for okay, cool. The crappy movie diaper diaper thing on the movie, it's called midnight. Stun? I watched with my friends last summer, it is starring Bella Thorne and Patrick's sports eager. And it's basically about a girl who cannot like the sunlight like she camping in the sun. Or if she is exposed to it, she'll basically die. So she can only go out at night. And then she meets this guy who's Patrick swertz Nager, and it's like a horrible teen romantic comedy, her father her like strict father, played by rob Riggle, who is just like kind of a medium, very funny and overall, it's just my friends, and I had a lot of fun commenting on it because the movie was horrible ending with literally absurd and made no sense. And I thought it'd be really fun here. You guys talk about it. Okay. Okay. Midnight sun, Akiva for the crack. It has it has a twenty two percent on rotten tomatoes. So not a great movie already kiva does that speak to you. I think it's a funny idea. It sounds the fact that you're singers kid is in it. He probably like secretly financed that there's something to give kids. Some job is funny. Dating somebody famous Alson. I have no I literally tested and just been watching the guy walked pastor window every single day since she was like a child and now they're teenagers. So she's basically falling in love with him through the window. And then the first time they meet they like fall in love because obviously. Time. Yeah. I feel like rob Riggle take. Okay. What is it? I feel like he's bad and everything like rob Riggle like he's bad on the NFL. But. Kind of you know, to like big and strong to be money. Yeah. I agree. I agree do drama robbery. You're not funny. But you don't look part. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Can I give you my complaint to Robin Allyson before we wrap up here? Sure. I think it's a funny idea. I think what the crowd movie diaper. I think people need more of a because what we found with three upset seven is like the more famous. The show is the more people care like I thought like Riverdale podcast was fun. But a lot of people don't care about Riverdale conic enough. It's not a kind of. So nobody knows what midnights as interesting. We'll be all time. Like if it had Larry its name or something. Like again, I'm Charlie from Cleveland, and I'm getting my podcast feed. Heo it's Robin Kimba midnight sun with Allison. And it's like all right. I know what any in pitcher self to be yourself else. Oh, I didn't. But I could. But I don't I think about this movie is simple enough that you guys could explain it, and everyone will understand what's going on. We could figure out. Allison, did you wanna pick yourself for the day of the Robin Icke get roasted. What I have to come up with my own rose. Yes, we any rose jokes for Robin. Akiva. Oh god. I don't know. I don't think. So what would be the number one? What would you something you hold on for us? Yeah. What would you go after if you wanna panel? Yeah. Well, okay. I don't know if it's been overdone now. But the the rob not liking sued thing is just absurd because is. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's not that a that's not that original. But that's my main. The. The people are now going to try and like insert themselves into the row status. Like going after his hard the same way, we had the bad reviews idea before. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Up to the haters up. Tim just like slamming us and trying to get onto that day us. He'll be on it anyway. Probably so right. Alison. Thank you so much for the call. Okay. Thanks. Good. Call. All right. Okay. All right. So let's to wind this thing down. Okay. Let's talk about what we what we are inventory for today. And let's talk about what is going to actually be going onto the wheel. Okay. All right. Let's talk about what's actually going to be going onto the wheel. Okay. Stands versus ops of the brand steel. That's can you get on through. That's that's not even idea that that's just can you? Tell me. How many lists things you've written down because I've not been writing. I wrote it. I don't know. I probably broke down like about ten things. Okay. Okay. That's a lot. Okay. Rob keeps kosher for a week. Is anybody can be excited if that comes up with a wheel, I think people might. Yeah. About this. How about this Twitter poll to see if this episode makes it to the wheel great? Okay. Okay. All right. But what I would like to do is just see if I could do what I do normally. And just because because I don't think it would be that big of a change. We could do some of that like it's not like we're gonna make you have twenty one ridiculous meals. I'd say you could have like eighteen ridiculous meals at a twenty one. But we have to throw in a couple of foods that are worth discuss. Okay. That's fine. That's fine. You know, I think it has to be because like. They don't like them. No. Of course, not. It's not like fear factor. But I, but I like, it's just chicken. It's like how kosher chicken. It's not interesting. Well. Shebab dinner the. Yeah. The chicken that I buy is already. I already by kosher chicken. Oh my God. So you may already. Sure, I may I might be all ready. I might find out. Yeah. That's interesting. Okay. All right. Then the Rodney kiva wand off. I'm of course, one hundred percent in. But it's totally contingent on Wigley saying, yes. Yes. Okay. So then our listeners tweet away. Blur and ask him if we can do it. No. Because then he would get too many tweets, and it's a busy day for him. So don't bother him. Okay. I will ask him. He's got a lot going on with game of thrones Chester will cry during game of thrones tonight one hundred percent, Chester cries during yester-. So yes, I, but also if you ask Josh they wouldn't be till the summer. Okay. We're not going to do the one from. There's actually a one though, it would be like a one off in the summer. Okay. That in December. Would we have six spots on the wheel for people giving us their twenty twenty predictions? Yeah. Let a will America put that on our future lists all right draft calf? I think this might be the closest to you. I think this could go on who's in charge of this. That's my only it was Josh lemur who had. Okay. So we were hit me up, and we'll we'll work it out. But that could go on the week. Okay. Yes. All right. It's not going to be in play for. This week. Just remember for that. This is a who wants to be a millionaire. I'd say put it in the waiting room. Okay. If somebody could tweak a little bit, then I'm willing to put it on. But I don't know Nelson had the idea about the one-star reviews of things that are. Normally considered to be rated very highly. Does that interest? You like I just again. That's what's the elevator pitch. I think it's hard to explain concisely. Yeah. Okay. Then this is one A care. Really? I think this was like the clip idea. The clips getting clips submitted. No, no. It's too complicated. All right, then probably kiva have a debate. Mean we said no to this before. What do you think like people send this topics and we have a debate? Are you more interested into the? Structured banter. I feel like that. That would come up. Okay. Yes. Structure, put it. I think structure being Thursday. Yes. I just the question is do we put it in now where the only two things allowed in on the twenty sided die. I know this more twenty things could be allowed for the twenty sided die. But people said that we should because a lot of people emailed in the last few weeks that we were off air and said, Ed re Ed band through. That's the one you forgot which they were right, except they said wait until one of the other two gets picked. So because people are excited about the brand steel and the conspiracy putting that's put structured banter onto the okay when he cited now, we're deciding now we're dividing twenty sided die by three fine. Well, the sick LA, okay. Okay. To the first one from seven are conspiracy and eight through fourteen is brands feels stands versus on that. And then fifteen twenty is the only other bidders have no access to the twenty sided die. If it comes up today. But we'll sit on the computer I have fake. The musical Jason careers gonna know when it's done. Solve riddles. I don't think. So. Okay. And you love it, the roast of Robin. Akiva, I think I think that's in the it's in the waiting room just waiting for the writers. I think it's a good idea if you're into it are you happy with this hall from today. Yeah. I think we really add a lot of stuff now and for the future when the wheel gets little lighter. We got a few things that will come up that. Now, I remember like now the whole we got so many ideas with balls in the air. I don't even know what what ain't punk balls in the air. Yeah. That's right. So we'll let we'll from America sort it all out on the spreadsheet and then get back to us. All right. We had a week off last week. So here we are for next week episode number thirty three okay? Let's let's get into it. I do wanna talk to you off line about maybe being off the mother's day weekend of at could be a lot going on. I don't even know when that is. It's not this weekend. It's not nickel but the weekend after because you first lady of podcasting is not going to really want to hear about how I need to potentially record a Rene episode on mother's day. Then another Robin, Akiva, get divorced Seattle. That'll put her right over the edge. Okay. Let's go ahead. And let's let's bring in the wheel and talk about what's going on. As we get to our spin for episode number thirty three here on number thrifty, thirty two okay. Okay. Season. Three episode seven was hot ways that we that one slot last week lies a lot of pushback, people were said that the show was ruined that we gave these seven people that. Yeah. Coin flip which I did like that. There was gesture today about the winner of would that make the coin flip more exciting less exciting that the winner of whoever is the holder of the bet. Holder of what if we whatever we had whatever stakes that would be instead of coin flip. Think of a bet then sure it's funny because it's been a couple of things, and it's never been picked whatever we want. It's never going get it's cursed. Okay. Oregon trail rise and fall of JT MTV's shows trash life coach infomercials Attrash, the Royal rumble the crappy movie diaper slash hat total. Request live is now off the wheel. And maybe could come back to the twenty sided die on a future. Episode millennials killed it wind shut up. Tim's money. The census the sequel mechanism which is to spots to beloved and the final four. None of our new ideas are going onto the wheel for this week's episode. Correct. Correct. Okay. Let's save one one slot for season. Three episode seven right now run slide for seasons real let's life coach is not really on the wheel right now. Because I don't wanna commit to kaitlin Herman looks like she's very busy based on. Yeah. Okay. I think the move we might have to just take that off the wheel. Okay. We might have to. Let's see. Let's go ahead and spin. Spin the wheel episode number thirty three can I took while you can I tell you what my daughter said this week, rubber guess, she's like how do you explain the Pacino's? It's like what the pockets my thirteen year old. She's like, how do you rob doesn't cheat? And tell you like whatever he wants the behind the wheel. I said I don't think like a he cares that much and be it's never like. Oh, yeah. That's the one rub onto a lot of times. It's like, oh shoot. I can't believe how to do that next week, but very devious kid Ella Weiner, she thinks cheating the wheelspin. I have a devious kid of of my own that is Dominic is in big trouble. He pulled a real real scam on his parents this week. You wanna hear what's coming up on the wheel? Yes. Okay. We may not be able to do this one this week. We may not be able to pull this off MTV's shows are trash, I don't know what. Allie last year's graduation. Schedule is. And this might be week. I know that she has been out on the your your beloved MTV reality podcast. So MTV's shows are trash is the pick. Do you want? A second spin Valez your cannot do it for any reason. Here's the thing. Every time we do this confuses people. So I feel like almost because I already asked I already deemed her. Okay. I feel like we second. Okay. Let's maybe let's how quick is. She a quick the DM responder. She might be. Okay. All right. So let me let me just a real quick talked about that my my beloved son Dominic that he in his he doesn't even go to kindergarten. He's in the he's like it's called TK transitional kindergarten. But he goes five days a week. And you know, he gets a little out of control at at school. He's a he's a good kid. But he overall like when this other kids around he just he loses his mind control himself. And so he gets like a chart from his teachers because that that he's been disruptive in the class, and he gets zero one two or three stickers every single day. And so when he's good the perfect as three stickers, and the absolute disaster is is zero stickers. And I we he was having some problems the week before getting bad reports. And I said, well, if you get three stickers every single day this week, then you and. We're going to play the LEGO Star Wars the force awakens that's going to be. We're going to do that this weekend. He's very excited about that. And so we were we were cruising through the week Keiv three Vickers, three stickers three stickers three stickers. But then upon further review later on we at my my wife was able to find that. There was one day where the teacher wrote something, but then crossed it out with a marker. And this this scam artist. Oh, my a k wist. I can't believe it. Yeah. He he took the marker. He crossed out what the teacher row leave the teacher changed her mind, and then he took stickers from previous weeks. And then this putting them onto the onto the thing. He's home. My god. He's you shouldn't be mad. You should be proud. That's amazing. Boy, I mean, this is this guy is going to one day be a CEO or make the fire festival to. Oh. My god. That's that's really like, you should be impressed long-term but concerned I'm very consum-. Very very, and he came home. And he was like, hey, three stickers again today debt. Wow. I'm like why you really you're really doing it. This is this is great. And then Nicole was furious. What is what he's your son? That's wild. So, but he did certainly did not get a Star Wars treat. No, no, definitely not. That's wild. Did you you didn't tell all is waiting to speak with with that is wild. But also good for you that you have a smart kid. Well, but a smart, but maybe one day, you know? I don't know bars. Well, then you have to pay for his college, or whatever maybe I like like Zack Morris level like a very normal thing for like a ten year old kid to do. I don't know. And I have a five year old, son. But he's a he's a few months younger than yours. I don't know if that's known for five year old to do. But it's impressive. I don't like, I don't know. I don't know where he goes from here. It's only up definitely everyone's done the son your Ford, your parents signature on a failed test or some note from right, but but not in kindergarten. They've done it not even kindergarten junior. Oh, that's next year junior high school. Yeah. All right. Keeping no word from LSU. Right. I think I think we need a backup spin. Well, I think it looks dumb when we have. And by the way, you know, like people are listening Corby is like commenting on. I forgot the people who are listening. Yeah. I know. Okay. Well, you don't say anything to I know people are listening. I think but I think let's cut it. I almost want to go back to the phones here. Let's go back to Corey be Corey we need a ruling here. Yeah. On Allie washer. Yes O'Malley year. I I I think you guys been again. No, I just hate having to options. And then people don't know. Like, I almost think like what if we know this is probably a little more work for rob like because she'll definitely let us know within an hour or two, but rob doesn't have the time. What if we do a standalone wheelspin right now? But then we cut all this out of if she says, yes, okay? People are excited about that's what this podcast is. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go back to the phone lines. Okay. Okay. Let's go to let's see who else. I try cars people to call in the tweet down. Don't recur. All right. Let me see who's there. Okay. Let's go back. The Josh lemur. Josh is on the line. Okay. Josh, okay. We need a ruling on this. You gotta be the second spend gotta do second span says yes in our you don't wanna get Alleanza you trust me. Well, maybe you do the tomorrow. Tuck is supposed to be up tomorrow, though. Yeah. People get mad. Okay. All right. Let me go get let me ask bands lemur always going to be to woman. Let me go back to Cindy. Okay. Cindy, I wrote down everybody's name in. Let's say all right. Cindy, are you there? Yeah. Okay. Cindy, what are you doing? I think you do the second in go. Let Allie lashed or no. You the second. We're feeling. Shoes. My biggest fan. Yeah. We can't trust you people. You'll tell there's like thirty year witnesses. Yeah. We can all paying promise we won't. You watch alley headed explode when she four Andrews in seven Matt's track. I don't know who's on this call right? All right. Let me let me ask de dro- real quick. And see what she says. Because let me see if how she feels that. She's she's still online. I think right d- DRA. They draw. Can you hear me? Yes. Hey far. It went silent. What are we doing here? I think you gotta go. I think you've gotta go to the second spend knowing that she's been off her own podcast. Yeah. That is a good. What should we do a rapture to at some point? I'm out I'm down for that. Pretty ship sponsorship down the sounds like it's right for picky for perhaps ler par. Two ships would get involved. Rub. If we do that again like next year. Let's see for new based on the the first game. I just did the last ad for them this. Okay. Let's see. Let's see if they were new. Okay. All right. That has listeners has asked me to add to ship, but it's been it's the thing. My wife doesn't listen to the podcast. She's not gonna like if I've a dating app on my phone. I don't know how there's any way. It could spin it. Yeah. Look then. Yeah. You look you. That kind of heat that's going to help you this. She's gonna be like, hey, oh, boy, keep dating fishing now. Yeah. Mike game. It'll become as filling prophecy, then I'm going to need dating. All right eater. Thank you. All right. Let's take can spin. Let's do the second spin. And then if maybe maybe by the by the time that in post production, we can we can add the update, okay? We feel like if the second spiff alley says, yes, the second spin is never heard because I don't want to disappoint people who you know, who and cutting out. Sailors? And I know I know I hate food. But I do at some point. I do need to have the chicken. Okay. Spin will bad here in thirty seconds. All right here, we go. All right here is going to be spin number two for this week again. And this is a good test valley last year's commitments to see just how committed she to this idea. Message me a few weeks ago. And she said what's going to happen? When after take the bar, Akiva, like can we put, you know? Are we going to pause the things if they come up my adult luck? So she has already put some thought into this. But I don't know why she's like you should only. Yes. She's got multiple things on the wheel. All right here, we go. Here's spin number two. Millennial judge. Okay. Here we go spin number two is life coach. Oh boy. Where do we all his car yet? No the wheel. Hey wheels. Curve. We said we said early episodes where the wheel just like detests that us and was coming up with the worst. Yeah. I feel alright. We're not doing life coach. We're not gonna be S. Right. All right. All right. This is the real the real Mickey Mouse operation right now right now, we've lost our credibility here. Episode number. Thirty thirty two. I feel like second. This comes up you tell me what it is. And then that's it. That's the last word of the podcast win shut up hymns money by if we can't do it like that. That's a great way to end. If look if it so if alley Lascher, maybe we'll maybe we'll be able to add the if we if we hear very quickly. Maybe we'll be able to add to it. Okay. So we'll be MTV one or the other reality shows are trash, and if I can't do it winds up. Tim's money. Okay. All right. I'm happy with either one. They're both good. Thank you guys so much for listening. Who called in and listen to thirty two fans, podcast and everything else. Take everybody up. Good one bracket theme song bracket that people should check sports teams. Like, there's still pushing them that was like from a month ago. I know, but it's timeless, and we can't listen to the latest one because it's the draft. It's over. Okay. All right. Take a good one. We're back. So I think that will we were on the right side of history with let's do a second wheelspin. Yeah. I guess once once we knew the Allie was taking couple of weeks off her own podcast. We shouldn't have been arrogant enough to assume she was gonna come on ours. Yeah. I mean, I think that I was saying let's do the let's do the second. We'll spend you were a little you were hesitant. The callers. All said do second. We'll agree with you. But I just I I hate when like we've gotten we've had a few weeks in the last couple of months where it's like, wait. I listen to podcasts. What's next week? I'm not even sure or like, then we put on a podcast, but we forget to mention that we never really ended. Like, you know, we never really came up with the final answer that was my fault because this week like is this going to go? That was my wife was like pressuring me to go somewhere. And so okay. All right so shop. Tim's money. It is for next. Did you talk to shut up Tim? Yes. He's in he's in. All right. I mean, he's got some date requirements, but we could we could get into scheduling off off air. Okay. So shut up. Tim's money. It is Allie Lascher is her stuff just off the wheel until further notice. No, she just needs to weeks. And then she's got a few months where she's available. Okay. And then what will here's the question should because this is sort of? Unfished? Should she get two spots on the wheel for this for the MTV shows are track I will turn that over to our butts person to? Okay. And then does this do anything to escalate or deescalate your tension with Alli Lascher what she did say, I'm being pushy? Just now. But then I explained like neuro because I was offering her a bunch of different days. I was like we'll push off the podcast like until next Monday. If you come on. But you know, it was it was too much. She can't she can't think about things like this. Yeah. God bless my wife sneezing in the background Humaira. In. Here's the. You know, I shouldn't want to shoot and want to have to worry about this. Because he also got to watch a bunch of different TV shows, and it's a whole it's a whole spiel no process. Right. So that's that's that when Tim's money next week episode number thirty three on rob Makita podcast, see next time. Bye.

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Rob & Akiva Need a Podcast 29: Rob & Akiva Solve a Murder

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Rob & Akiva Need a Podcast 29: Rob & Akiva Solve a Murder

"If you're interested in following along with the police procedural mentioned in today's episode of Robin. Akiva need a podcast you could do. So at rob has a website dot com slash CSI. New York is definitely not mandatory or necessary for your hopeful enjoyment of this podcast. Huge all wheel almost half the wheel of season episode seven is it coming up. It's so close, but it is not as loud away. It's robin. Akiva, solve a murder. Okay. We're watching a TV show and no guest. Okay. So this is one of the very first things they got put on the wheel. No veto, right? Not enough doing. Okay. We're watching season three episodes said than of CSI New York if I recall. Yes. Oh, so does this season three percents up? But it was one of the show. Gesture we've we've got us twenty eight times we will. We will. We are going to do. It's going to be a little tricky in terms of timing. But we're going to watch the show. We will come back after each act break and drive the action. And then give our predictions about what's going on after each it'd be basically like six segments. Yeah. Maybe we'll have a listener sort of send us like the Timestamps before. And so we know how long we have. Okay. All right. They go. All right. Robert, Akiva, solve a murder. Key. A cave murder. New york. The Big Apple Frank Sinatra said if you can make it there, you can make it anywhere. It's a concrete jungle. But beneath tall towers and bright lights LIZA world that many know nothing about it's a world where elicit underground raves take place on board, otherwise normal subway train lines. Violinist perform and glow sticks dance akimbo underneath the city streets. This is the story of one woman and for the sake of her story. We'll call her nail. Jane doe. She boarded that elicit subway rave. And she was there for a good time. But she had the most unpleasant experience, even by the standards of New York City. Mass transit. Hi, I'm rob sister. Nino an along with my co-host Akiba Winokur, we're going to be solving the mystery of the murder of this woman here on rob Makita, Salva murder Tiba below. How are you? I'm great today. Rob what's going on? I am doing. Okay. We have uncovered a lot of evidence. We've been reviewing the case of Jane Doe who boarded that New York City subway line. And we have a lot to discuss with you over this either five or six part series discussing the murder of this woman. Yeah. I do think by the end of this. We will this is not like Syria. We will get to the end of it. And actually, you know who did it. It is a big mystery. And we are going to get to the bottom of this. And we will also meet the people that were the crime scene. Investigators investigating this New York City murder from some years ago. Do you know when the murder took place? I do not know do you know when the murder took place. No. But I feel like that's part of our quest is the forget when the murder Wayne the murder took place who the woman is. And who did it that? Is the aim of this podcast series that we will try to uncover in the next five to six episodes. Akiva, I guess we should begin discussing the man who is at the center of the crime scene. Investigators who were brought in to look at the murder of this young woman, and the Mur the man who is the chief investigator is a man who goes by the name of MAC Taylor MAC is a detective first grade and director of the New York police department crime lab in the first decade of the two thousands. Yeah. Mac famously was serving in the in the Marine Corp during the eighty three Beirut bombing. And and he's a veteran of operation Desert Storm. Yeah, sadly, MAC had a personal tragedy. His wife was killed in the attacks on the World Trade Center, but does. That does not stop him from currently dating occasionally. Yes. And we will certainly investigate the name of who is dating right now. Okay. All right. So on the night in question of this murder. It happened to be the birthday of MAC Taylor. And his his his date took him out to go. See a Japanese opera, Akiva. Yes. Yes. And I will I will say his is they'd is a very attractive woman. There is no woman tract if enough to be worth it for it to go to the opera on your birthday. But just as MAC and his date. We're watching the opera's climactic suk-kyu sometimes referred to as Harry Carey, the ritualistic Japanese suicide in the opera that he was called away from his birthday festivities to go investigate the murder, which took place on board a subway train. Now, Akiva, it appears that on the New York City subway lines late at night. There are wild raves that happen. A whole unseemly environment going on down there of people who have raves on moving. Subway train cars in New York City. Did you know about this? When you lived in New York City, I was never invited to any of them. I do we don't know what subway line this is. But we do know. No that this was probably it could be said the most lit and lease lit subway. Carve all time lease late in the sense that it appears to be completely dark. I do not know how the shut the lights up mostly in the sense that there are like actual violin players and not like the types that come on a New York City subway and ask for money. They seem to be really playing with the music that other people are playing. Yep. It seems very crowded sweaty. I would guess it's at least one hundred and seven degrees Fahrenheit in the subway car. It was all part of the party and Jane Doe was having the time of her life. She was drinking something which appeared to be whiskey from some sort of a very fancy decanters, which is being passed out. This was I class party aboard the New York City subway line only the best for each. And the party was jumping. But it looks as though there was something extra in this drink that Jane Doe did not order. We think we're not sure if it was the drink or was she poisoned, we you know, she she may have fallen on glass. It's not totally clear yet. Yes. And so Jane Doe was left a bloodied deceased mess on the New York City subway, and all traces of the party were then gone by the time crime scene. Investigators arrived which seems suspicious it's almost like we're the people through the Artie covering up a murder just because they didn't want the party to be sort of found out about or were they involved in the murder. I do think we have to put them on her suspect list. Yeah. It's unclear whether at one of these elicit raves at once. Somebody dies that they say, oh gr-. Great cleanup everybody. Hi, all the got here. Quick transfers good praise. Yeah. It's good practice for the underground raves. And there are probably can't or the cameras on on on New York City. Subway cars here at this time that there were subway and the horrible things those cameras have seen if they are imagine the person whose job it is to watch this Cam. Yes. So crime scene. Investigators arrived at the scene and debriefed MAC Taylor upon his arrival. So there is some thought perhaps this could be a biological agent. Now for some reason the CDC has mad. Nobody seems to be that concerned about some sort of chemical attack here. I would think this would shut down the entire subway thing. So they apparently they made a phone call to the CDC. They said now it looks. Okay. I would I would probably double check that. I would double check because you would think that they would wear at least a gas. Mask, but some sort of like a surgical mask at the very least. But no there was no no cause for concern. Even though Jane Doe was bleeding from every mucous membrane on her body. Yeah. I do you know, how many mucous membranes a person have because I didn't know there war mucous membranes. They'll about like five. Okay. That's bad. It's probably good. Guess it's either five or like thousand it'd be thousand. Yes. So police were alerted to this gruesome murder, which took place on the subway line by a caller to nine one one. And we have a recording of what the police received at the nine one one call reporting this murder. Okay. An interesting piece of evidence here, Akiva, what do you feel like that? This could mean, do you think that maybe the perpetrator for the attack was the person that called in the Bobby Vinton song blue velvet to the nine one one dispatch could be was the deceased wearing blue velvet was that her dress. I do not know that Jane Doe was wearing blue. But it is still unknown. What type of material she was wearing in terms of? We're going to have to wait for the report from the autopsy in a later part of rob mckeever Salva murder. Okay. I'm looking forward to that. Okay. They also found at the scene of the crime a couple of other things a glow stick was found near the body of Jane Doe. I mean there were many glow sticks on the train. So that could mean something or nothing, right. Yes. It seems like that. There was one glow stick that the people who did this amazing cleanup on the subway. Forgot do you think that that was intentional? I mean, they were probably rushing. I think you know, it seems like this could have been a premeditated act, especially because of you know, we the evidence we have like the automated. A phone message, which seems to be planned. But I don't know. I don't know they they definitely could have been sloppy and made some mistakes. There was also a fingerprint found on the poll in this subway car. Do you think that this is a fingerprint that will help solve this murder, or do you think that this is a fingerprint of one of the millions of people who have recently ridden? The subway car does seem a little suspicious that there would be a fingerprint on a subway Paul of subway that probably rise. Yes. Hundreds of thousands of people a day. But you know, mactavish seems to think that this could be a big clue in the case if anyone is going to be able to solve the murder of Jane Doe. It would be MAC Taylor. A man who will stop at nothing to solve New York City's many murders at the scene of the crime. He had some thoughts about what may have transpired. Glow. Stick near the body could be a souvenir from hardy or club. Didn't come from the party. Party was here. Training. Murder was the last. Make sure you get off before murder if you've hit murder. You've gone too far. This detective reminds me of another detective, I used to know in Miami would say, you know, very sort of like dramatic things, and then sort of the walk away that would be it. Akiva, we on this many part series. Will learn more about what happened with Jane Doe and the people investigating her murder and hopefully by the end of this podcast series. The murderer of Jane Doe will be brought to Justice here as Robin. Akiva, Salva murder continues. Liberty. Welcome back to episode number two of Robin, Akiva, Salva murder. I'm rob sister. Nino here with my co host Akiba Winokur kiva. I wanna talk to you about the curious case of grant, Jordan. Yeah. We we really started this podcast thinking, we get to the bottom of a murder, but I think we almost have to call this now, Robin, Akiva solve tumor. It was a murderous spree in New York City and the case of grant, Jordan, only complicates the mystery. Akiva, grant, Jordan was a man who some thought had it all considered to be New York City's most prolific in eligible bachelor. He was a triple threat. He was a triathlete. He was a philanthropist. And he was a ladies, man. Akiva. And he like many ladies men at picture of himself on the cover of magazine hanging from his apartment and grant Jordan lived in a two million dollar Manhattan, high rise apartment with a gorgeous view, which was to die for. Grant, Jordan was found dead in an Infinity pool which was part of his apartment as an incredible athlete. He had like a pool treadmill in his bedroom where he could swim miles and miles without leaving his room. Akiva, similar to the one that you have set up in your office. Who amongst us in Manhattan does not have a pool treadmill in their bedroom. Now grant Jordan for being a wealthy playboy. Also had some interesting things about him. Grant, Jordan, had an arrangement with many women where they would become something of a roommate slash made. They would call them roommate's room maids. Now, keep a what would be the benefit of having a room made as opposed to as a millionaire playboy just hiring a maid to come in and clean your apartment. Why go to the trouble of then having a maid who lives with you who lives with you for free in exchange for cleaning and vacuuming the house, it seems very impracticable to have someone live with you when you could very easily right as you say the same services, but not have them actually. Live in your house and grits grandeur and had some interesting things about viz requirements for this position. He only wanted women who were blonde with blue eyes to be his roommates slash made. But in exchange for being his made, they also got access to the Infinity pool. Yeah grant, it should be said was not just a regular, ladies, man. It was said that he had a different woman in his parliament every single night and his neighbors were not pleased about it. His neighbors hated him as much as the women of Manhattan loved him. They said he would not invite them to any parties and one pervert down the hall took a quick break from eating giant chocolate bar to say he had sex every night, and she would often listen is it I would ask you suspicious that frequently when people are discussing murders with New York City detectives I'd say ear. Witnesses. I witnesses always say the be so nonplussed by the fact that a murderer is taking place, maybe five minutes five five seconds from their door. And this is probably the most interesting thing that happened to them that year, but they seem extremely disinterested. With speaking to the police detective, yes, it's almost as if they seem somewhat amuse that grant Jordan is dead. I mean, we really have to put together suspect list or two different suspect lists for Jane Doe and for grand, Jordan. And I would say everyone who lives on grinned Jordan's floor who was not invited to his epic parties that broke the noise sound barrier. I think they will have to be on suspect list. The thing about grand Jordan's apartment paper thin walls, where not only can you hear all the parties and all the sex and all of the endless pools running you can hear almost anything that happens. So we'll see just if if anything interesting was over her now grant Jordan was found. And by his latest room made who she claimed that she was on the first day on the job as she used the internal vacuum. The HVAC set up in this Manhattan sky rise, and she vacuumed all the floor as she slipped. Into lingerie. I'm not sure if that was part of a grant Jordan's mandatory house cleaning rules, and then as she was vacuuming away. She opened the endless pool to discover grant Jordan's body. Do you think that she could be a suspect? She's definitely on the need to speak to again list. I think if really was not a first the job we could figure that pretty quickly. That's that's going to be pretty simple to figure out. We should also maybe discuss a little bit. Because since MAC Taylor is is dealing with Jane Doe or discuss the find the tech those who are working on this case. Yes. Who are the people who are investigating the murder of grant, Jordan? Well, we have the great Danny Messer was a third grade detective, and he's a CSI investigator. That's probably redundant. But he's a crime scene investigator. And Danny is driven by ethics and he hopes to one day run the New York crime crime lab, you should dream beg. Yeah. And he seems like he's on track for promotion. Alright. Start with just solving this case. Okay. Yeah. I well. I think this could be the big break Danny masters been waiting for it. Okay. All right. Who else is there? Well, we have Stella bonus, Sara. Yes. Who who you know is one of the greats of the New York police department, but she often thinks speaks before she thinks leading to many complaints about her from people being suspected of crimes the body of grant Jordan was taken back to the lab for an autopsy and something very unusual was found inside of the lungs of grant, Jordan. It was the top to some sort of wedding cake where a ceramic brides head was found inside the lungs of grand, Jordan, what could possibly mean, Akiva. Well, it seemed that Stella seem to think that that meant that. There was a bride in his apartment, which seems maybe off base. I think on the nose a little on the nose. But I also think you could say just straight wrong. I think that perhaps one. Of his many jilted lovers. Was thinking that they would be missing, Jordan, Jordan. And that they perhaps that's what we should be looking at the problem is if you were I had committed the murder, we would have very few suspects you suspect. But with with Mr. Jordan here, there are literally hundreds so they're really gonna have to canvas, you know, basically, the entire lower side of Manhattan, so many women in and out of the bedroom of grant, Jordan. The autopsy also revealed some fingerprints on the forehead of grant Jordan, which seemed to indicate that perhaps his head was held under the water now as a triathlete and experts swimmer who goes in the endless pool every single night. Akiva, it would seem as though someone with a great deal of strength would need to be the person holding grand Jordan's head under the water. Would you say that this means that perhaps there was a second? Nd accomplice was there could there need to need it to be a male in the room. Also could be a very strong woman. Yes. Certainly or or could be two people holding him down possibly very possible another clue which was found at the crime scene was a nother blue contact lens. Now, the newest room made of grand Jordan. She was also got grandchildren. I guess it doesn't care if you wear a blond wig or use blue contacts. It seems like that maybe a lot of these maids showed up with blue contacts on. And there was a contact blue contact lens found in the filter of Mr. grant Jordan's pool. Yes. So this could be a second fake blonde haired, blue eyed brew made okay and more to come in the case of grant, Jordan. Do you feel like that? There is a connection between the two murders or. Or is it possible that there is an eight murder and be murder in this podcast. We I really do not know yet. Can I ask you a question? This is our blue dress. Jane doe. Did she have blonde hair and blue I had Brown hair and blue dress? But bloom does seem to be the one the color blue seems to connect these two things. Yes, I am leaning towards connected. But I don't know what that could be back to the case of Jane Doe. We have some new evidence to report on the podcast this week that are crime scene. Investigators MAC Taylor ended up getting some other leads on what was going on. We have some confirmation no, biological attack on the subway car, the entire city of New York, which was unaware of this now breathe easily knowing that they're not chemical weapons on the subway. And I think of an important update from. The corrections department for episode one till now is we thought this was could have been the train wasn't fact the FBI ATF Trang okay for forensics. Yes. At the autopsy of Jane Doe. Some interesting discoveries were made first and foremost, an origami paper crane was found on the body of Jane Doe now kiva in Japanese culture, a thousand paper cranes in origami. Normally brings good luck. Yes. Affect so famous that any sort of person, you know, doing topsy would know that off the top of their head. That's right. In addition. The autopsy revealed some findings in terms of the cause of death where it looks as though there have been chemical burns in the throat of Jane Doe along the Asaf ical lining crystalline traces around her body. It seems as though she drew. Rank something which may have killed her. Did she drink it on purpose or was or was sort of forced down her throat? We don't you think that perhaps the murder of or maybe no murder at all you feel like that as perhaps maybe intercut with the Japanese opera, the Hari Kari ritualistic suicide, you think perhaps maybe Jane Doe boarded this train, perhaps even leaving the apartment of grand Jordan that she came to the train to commit horrific ritualistic suicide that is certainly possible. I thought of that. But that's really something to keep track of episode three a lot to discuss here as MAC Taylor and the crime scene. Investigators went and met up with the man who was putting together the nightly elicit train, raves key. But what are what do we know about this, man? We know that he sells flyers one hundred dollars on the street. If you want to know when the rave is I feel like, you know, one of the problems with that as opposed to selling tickets is you really just need to sell one. And then they could just posted on the internet, and everyone would know, but this guy maybe doesn't know about the internet yet. We don't know exactly what year this murder took place, and the we're still trying to figure that out. This guy seems the exact level of shadiness for someone who's giving something away on a New York City street, if I had to guess, I believe this murder took place sometime in the fall of two thousand six okay checks out. So it seems per hundred dollars you get the flyer. So then, you know, which subway car to show up for your b y OB party on the subway. No. Is it be a Yobouet? I don't know about that. Yes. That's what weren't they said that. Okay. Well, that seems like a rip off if it's a real do you get your subway fare covered for the one hundred dollars. I really don't think. So I don't know how the -gistically they would work that out. It just seems able. Now's the subways in on these parties, and they're sort of letting everyone through some sort of gate door like side gate. Maybe somebody on the MTA could potentially also be in on this inside job. It also seems like you could just if you know, it's on the train you could. And you don't, but you don't know when Hanno which trimming in you don't know which night, you don't know which stout thing. If you news, the F, you could sorta wait in the subway station till you see kind of a rave come by your stage, and then you destroy joint. Also, what about the poor people who are just trying to get home from like a quiet night at the bar, and they have run into this rave train? That sounds like a disaster to me, it's really more of a flash mob than a party. Yeah. I do think like anybody who's prone to seizures probably should not go on this subway train. Could you imagine? You're just riding home from work, and then a rave breaks out on the subway car around you it sounds like a nightmare. So the man who organized this party. He was also the person who called nine one one and keep is this the same man who played the blue velvet recording to the police. It seems to be the implication. But I we can't know for sure, but he's not denying that. When the police ask him is he one of our main suspects only because we have so few. We almost have nothing to go on the either is or knows the main suspect, I don't think we usually I feel like the suspect would be better hidden than this. I don't know if we've met the murderer or murderers yet. That's my guess. Yes. This man seems to have no motive to why he would want Jane Doe dead. It seems like it would be not not particularly helpful for future. Parties for business start. Yeah. If people start whispering about murders appling on these subway train. Okay. Akiva. Is there anything else? You wanna talk about in the case of Jane Doe or in the case of grant Jordan for this week. No, other than I've never seen a British woman New York City detective before, but I guess there's a first time for everything first time for everything on the next episode of Robin, Akiva, solve a murder spree. We will have more evidence about the cases of grant, Jordan, and Jane Doe, and perhaps some connections, which may link the murders together next time on Robben, Akiva, solve murders free. Larry welcome back to Robin Kifah solve a murder spree episode. Number three. I'm rob sister, Nina back with my co host, kiva Winokur and kiva. I believe we have some shocking. New revelations about the murder of Jane Doe to talk about with our listeners this week. We'll for starters. I don't think we need to call her Jane Doe anymore. Right. Guess that are Jane Doe has been identified by our crime scene investigation team and her name is Jenny Anders. Yes. And it does seem in a shocking twist that one of the -tective Dr Sheldon, and we call him Dr Sheldon because he used to be a doctor, but you got really sad after a couple of patients died, and it became a crime scene investigator. New Jenny enders for a minute. We don't know what that means. And I'm not sure we ever will. This may have been a flashback to a previous episode of the series is a possible. Well, I don't know. We we're not is Dr Sheldon a suspect at this point. I would say no that would be shocking. I mean, Dr Sheldon famously graduated college eighteen was aboard licensor Jin by the age of twenty four aka ox. Yes. Aka hawks. I do think it would be beyond stunning for him to be the I I would say he's not on our suspect that all okay. Let's talk about some persons of interest in this case. So our autopsy reveals some substances that were involved on the body of miss Anders. And what it appears to be is a combination of the chemical compound MD M A N A male potency, drug a kiva. I know that this is your area of expertise. Sure. What male inputting what you? The crime scene investigators refer to this combination as sex dec-. Sure. Yeah. Famous drugs ecstasy and also in addition, some DNA is found I'm not sure exactly how we the DNA. What exactly the DNA is not really mentioned, but we are able to idea person of interest. And that is none other than the wealthy industrial magnate, Mr James McQueen. Yes, he James McQueen appears to have his own airline and also be involved in the underground New York City subway already seen. He's a bit of Richard Branson type where he is involved in many different industries. I would say like the poor man's Richard breath. Maybe the homeless man's Richard Branson, James McQueen is a name that was very familiar to Mr. MAC Taylor. Because. Because MAC Taylor investigated a previous case of felony conviction that James McQueen worked on. But would you ever believe of who the alibi was when James McQueen was up for that felony conviction? None other than the man who runs the elicit subway rave, Randy Kern. Yes. And we may need to go back and investigate that rhyme from six years ago our records Maktel only go back about three point seven years. But I think the that could be we could end up investigating five different crimes by the end of this podcast series. Yes is a whole crime ring that we have uncovered so on the night in question Jenny Anders with somewhere potentially with James McQueen. Even though we will check in with him later on. And apparently, Mr.. Mcqueen was snorting sexy off miss Anders leg and then sometime after she boarded the blue train, and then was poisoned slight correction to episode two. Also, when I said that they could just have one copy of flyer, and everyone could go I think you need a copy of the flyers to get into the party. I don't know how they enforce that on the subway system. Our lovely detective seem to have gotten past that sort of. But but that appears to be the case, right? You'd need the flyer to get into the party, which is why we now learn it goes for as much as five hundred dollars on EBay. Yes. And while I do not believe refreshments are provided on the party that the acronym. B Y O B. I believe does stand for bring your own blue you need to be wearing blue. The elicit rave, I do think you still need to bring your own alcohol. I do not think that any refreshments are provided. Yes, and people have made their tongues blew everything on them as blow everything is blue. Okay. Meanwhile, that we are still investigating the case of grant Jordan on this week. We uncovered some more evidence as the H vacs system for Mr. Jordan's apartment. The investigators have been going through that and found some interesting pieces of evidence, Akiva what they find in. The fact system used condoms and more pieces of the statue. Yes. More more of the art of the upper a hypothetical wedding cake. We also were going to be following up leads with the previous maids of grant, Jordan, women who were his former room aids. And so. So we're going to go and speak with Victoria, Peres, another person of interest here in this case. She is the most recently dispatched room made of Mr. grant, Jordan. Yes. And when we find when we found this Perez, she was being roommate for another client. Yes, police opened the door to see her. She was extremely unconcerned that she was in her underwear cleaning someone's apartment with the police they're cleaning and while we are crime scene. Investigators investigating murder that I think it is it seems unusual that so many of the suspects and persons of interest in these proceedings are in various states of undress undress and pretty policeman showed up in my office. And I was in my underwear I had at least be like slightly sort of flunks. But these people seem like it happens to them almost every day. No, it seems like that the crime scene. Investigators just seem to stumble upon the new poppet a number of women who are in different states of being in lingerie, and bras, and underwear. Yes. I miss has also points out the second. She finds out that this person who was extensively a good friend of hers died by via her his in room who'll slash treadmill. She points out that he was such a good swimmer. Which is seems like a very normal thing to say right second you find that somebody died in their in their treadmill? Like, how did he drown? He was a great swimmer. And she had also recently been in the pool with him. It seems as though grand Jordan liked to have pool parties with his roommates that these he'd like to have coed swimming. Yes. She also we can really knock her out as a suspect. Rob I I don't know if you agree because she clearly states that she had sex with him, but did not kill him. And you know, if anybody tells a New York City police detective that they did not commit the murder. They did not commit it. We have to take them at their word that seems to be canon is not on her suspect list. Yes, why did grant Jordan fire MS Perez because she claimed that grand Jordan was never happy with her work. Was it the her work as a maid could be both? I mean, we know that you know. There was a lot of noise coming from his room. I mean, it's possible that she Abed's swimmer. It's possible that she was fat swimmer. She might have just been bad at cleaning. I mean, we saw the new cleaning woman who found grant. Yes. Seems to be a very very good cleaners. She was marrying good dancer. Good dancer. Yeah. Now, MS Perez that we've heard that Mr. Jordan has a proclivity for blonde with blue eyes and MS Perez is a brunette with Brown eyes yet she does wear contact lenses. So I guess blue contacts, and she probably had to wear a blond wig for work. Yes. And she did turn over a contact lens to the New York police department. Meanwhile, let's get back to the case of misunders. And as you mentioned that Sheldon Hawkes ox, he did know her. He seemed like that he had gotten. Her phone number. But that is not where the coincidences and here because one of the other crime scene. Investigators working the case recognize is this origami paper crane as something that a man on the subway makes a quote unquote, trash artist that he turns paper trash into origami paper cranes and could be the subject of an upcoming podcast called your art is trash. Yes. I we've also been called trash artists that varies this podcast. Yes. Now is the origami paper crane the same piece of paper that ox gave to this woman Jenny Anders with his phone number. Do we know for sure that that is ox who wrote the thing where that he knows it from a previous time that wasn't clear. Not sure I'm not sure she got a phone number. I think it was him. Why flash back to that moment where she's getting a phone number from somebody like ox? Yeah. No. I guess you're right. The flashback really really locks it, and you're probably right and treasure artist. Probably remembers who he may who he makes those trash art. And so we will see what what is the name of this crime scene investigator that recognizes the trash art from the subway the man or the woman the woman her name is. I think isn't she Lindsay? Okay. We don't know. They're not sure she's Lindsey we think so. And that is the one with the wild hair Lindsay is the one who is into Danny? But I don't think Lindsay in Daniel we're gonna send case on this. So I'm not sure. All right. So she an ox are going to go and try to find the trash artists on the subway. Where's the trash artists today? Can't find him. I feel like what what would be trained for the trash artists. Sure. What's what goes to Yankee Stadium? Oh, that's a good point the six. Maybe see, I don't know. Okay. Akiva, meanwhile, that they can't find the trash artist, but they have somehow maybe by way of paying five hundred dollars. So I figured out which train is the blue train tonight. Well, you think they had to buy a ticket for the blue train? And that's how they got on there. That's probably a good point. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know they figured they figured out how to get on the blue train, and they got their nobody's there. But then all of a sudden, we see the people the B Y O B party breaks out on the train, boom. Yeah. I'd say within a span of two seconds. They train his empty two seconds later. It is absolutely lit. It is lit. It is a rap video people are working on the subway. Poles and. It is a scene. Unlike any that, you could imagine on the New York City transit, and we see onboard this train is a person of interest. The trash artist is on board. The blue train. And they very cleverly show him their badge, which is blue which is blue. We have one other segment to discuss here on Rodney kiva Salva crime spree murder spree here we want to talk about Mr. MAC Taylor who was able to track down Mr James McQueen, the industrial magnate who is having a big party at LaGuardia Airport as people do. Yeah. Sure, I've been to many big LaGuardia Airport party with sexy flight attendants carrying drinks around. Like, it's a madman episode for the future. The future of parties is on board plane. This is not nineteen sixty four. Right. So James McQueen. He knows a good time. He feels like people will instead of hey that Randy is making a killing. No pun intended, having parties on the subway. I'm gonna have parties on airplanes. And so he is sort of out there. Trying to get the ball rolling on sexy airplane parties. But here comes Mr. MAC Taylor. Who is no stranger to Mr James McQueen? That's the tech of Taylor Taylor. And so he wants to know what do, you know about Jenny Anders? She's a woman and she died, and she was on the blue train, and what do you know about her? Yeah. Well, what does he know about her? I think does he admit to a previous relationship with Jenny. I think he does. Right. He says that he doesn't know her. He doesn't forget a face doesn't forget a face. What about a leg? What about a leg? Maktum torts. And Maktel says well, your DNA was oh. All over this woman, and your and your male potency drug was all over this woman. He says, hey, why don't you talk to Randi Kerns about this seems like it's all a coincidence to me and back Taylor points out the first rule of detective nece, which is there are no coincidences and murders. That is a good point. Now, James McQueen for a CEO rich guy. Type he has a injury to his hand. His hand is all bandaged up. What happened to Mr. McQueen? He said he was deep sea diving which I will say is an atrocious excuse when we have a murder committed underwater, and he's he's basically meeting way underwater injury. I would say James Quinn. If he's guilty is very dumb, James McQueen attempt. Say Affleck's on Mr. MAC Taylor. He says, by the way, also do you know, I'm good friends with the mayor. Is that a threat? Yeah. Up just to just a reminder, just reminders interesting tidbit. Mr. McQueen tells six is this mayor, I guess this is Michael Bloomberg. Bloomberg. He's good friends with with Bloomberg Bloomberg is friends with all the subway train promoters as most people with this is the industrial magnet. Yeah. Yeah. So that Bloomberg might have to put in a phone call and get MAC Taylor to go investigate someplace else Maktel or has a warning of his own for James McQueen flat thing too, low keep you on my radar. Yeah. If you better not fly that thing too low because you are on my radar now, sir. Akiva, do you feel like we have enough information to piece this murder mystery spree together? Yeah, I think between episode two and three we've really gained a lot of perspective. I think. James McQueen is probably our lead suspect in one or possibly both of the murders. We can rule out Veronica Perez the previous we knew we had to look into the previous ranch. Jordan, potentially looking to launch his own sexy airplane party business, very possible. There could have been dueling. This could have been like, you know, Armageddon. Verse deep impact people come out with the same business plan at the same time. Same business plan. I say the trash artists that want to know more about him before ruling him out. Okay. All right. We will have more information on these murder cases, and some potential leads in this case coming up next week on Robin, Akiva, solve a murder spree. Liberty. Welcome back to Robin, Akiva, solve a mass murder spree. I am rob sister back with my co host, Akiva Winokur, and we have a lot to talk about this week. We have some new leads some new breaks in this case, some potential conflicts of interest as well as we discuss many different aspects of these ongoing cases of the murder of Jenny Anders and grant, Jordan, Akiva. Yeah. In some ways, it feels like we're making progress and in other ways, it's almost like we're no closer to solving the murders than we were, you know, three episodes ago. One step forward two steps back. New information coming to light here as we discuss these cases, Akiva, we're going to take our listeners on a journey into the forensics of a Manhattan high rise, h the. A c system. That's where they wanna go. So they'll like, okay. All right. So in a big apartment high rise there is a high pressure suction system, which allows the people to vacuum without the luggage vacuum run. All you have to do is connect a hose have you ever operated a system like this, Akiva, no? Of course, not we talked about earlier in this episode couple of weeks earlier that we talked about some of the interesting items found in the HVAC system of grand Jordan, including a used condom. I'm surprised to warrant doesn't surprise. Yes. The the use condom we we did not discuss that had some red dots on the used condom. I did not think that that was going to be of any interest. But. It does turn out that that was actually sand sand on the condom. I've never heard that one new one to me as well. And it also was some sand found wells. Any idea where the Sanca becoming from? Yes, it appears to be the type of sand which is used to make Buddhist sand art that was that related to the trash art. We don't know if possible possible, but I don't believe that trash art is Buddhist, although the paper chlorine, maybe there could be some tie-ins. Entre say, we'll have to see ongoing episodes. Let's. Discussed the trash artists that we are following the story of the trash artist on the train leaving the blue party. And we find out that the trash artist who made the origami crane that while the victim Jenny. Anders was burned by the paper crane. It turns out that the trash artists claims. No that paper burned him, Akiva. Yes. And we do we have seen a flashback where that appears to be the case. Yes. And it burned his fingers, but the trash artist that he loves being on these blue parties because after the party is over maybe this is why there's no remains of the party the trash artists. Then collects all of the garbage off the floor of the subway. And I don't know where else in New York City, you could find trash like literally a small knapsack full of it like get why he likes it. You know, the the blue parties as oppose. Just walking on the streets for to said. Yes. And so Randy Kern brings him in because it's such a fertile ground for his trash art. He gets to collect so much trash after the parties and to prove it. He just dumps out his bag of trash in front of the crime scene. Investigators. There's nobody ever ask for a lawyer on these shows and seems like a bad idea. No lawyers have your trash artist. I think you're you're your own lawyer. You don't have a lawyer necessarily on retainer, but maybe just don't speak to the cops without someone. So the crime scene investigators will collect up all the trash and use that for part of their investigation moving forward. We are going to have some interesting updates this week for you as well about the person of interest, Veronica Perez, you remember Veronica Perez, right? Of course, who could forget it Veronica Perez, she was the last room made of Mr. grant, Jordan. And she was it turns out a person who bid one thousand dollars recently to go on a charity date with Mr. grant Jordan as his residence. Roommate now did Veronica Perez also send donuts or pastry to the crime scene investigators. I'm not sure that she it seems as though the crime scene investigators had some sort of cake topper, which was the exact same one. That was. Found inside the lungs of grant Jordan, and it seemed like that they were able to deduce that's somehow related to Veronica interesting to Veronica Perez. And so they also found out that Veronica Perez was interested in getting married to Mr. grant, Jordan. She was registered places all over town. Yeah. As Veronica Perez Jordan, which they weren't even married yet. She was using his name. I mean who would have bought if nobody knew that they were actually couple who would have actually bought them stuff. Registries my question. Yeah. Also, he's very wealthy people. You know, we'll tacky tacky, right? Right. And so we send something, you know. Here's a here's a charity thing, you know, send some money to nonprofit. And so that we are seeing that the crime scene. Investigators are starting to wonder maybe could Veronica Peru. Says indeed be a crazy person with a motive. That's their words. Not mine. Yes. It seems like there's definitely again, we know she cannot be the murder because she's already said she did not murder him. She could be involved, but she cannot be the murder. Yes. But it does seem like she may be a crazy person. Veronica Perez seemed to want to marry grandchildren, and who could blame her as a man who had it all the indoor pool bachelor pad two million dollars spread with the paper thin, walls and New York City's hottest and most eligible bachelor who can blame Veronica Perez for wanting to tie him down. Yeah. That's you know, sounds like what every guy in New York City's dream. Yeah. We'll say Stella our detective Stella just runs circles around. Veronica. Yes. So we get a classic good cop bad cops in area where the other crime scene investigator is starting to badger her a little bit. But here comes Stella bona, Sarah. Who really plays for Ronca Peres like a fiddle? And she says guys, they just don't understand. They don't get it. Do they and she said, but grant did grant got it? He was one of the good ones. She seems like she still loves grandchildren other. She doesn't seem to broken up about his death. Not broken by the death, which maybe that's maybe she was trying to become his heir. Right. May he doesn't it doesn't seem to have any family who's with the investigators. It's possible. She was trying to get that a sweet money and and the money rent. Yes. It's the grand Jordan money. You can't you can't joke around with it. I we also saw her mentioned to grant that the cake topper people look just like them in grant, very rudely. Let's Akiva that we were able to have a audio recording of a flashback to the night in quo or one of the nights leading up to the murder of grand, Jordan. This was where. Ronca? The roommate of grand Jordan seemed to go maybe jump the gun a little bit and bought a cake topper, which was a bride and groom and Veronica was so excited to show grant, Jordan what she had found. Let's flashback to an audio recording of that night. Isn't this cute? Just like you just my Mace. Just my may get a grip. I don't wanna say, rob. But I think the murder may have been justified. That's pretty rude. Look at this cake topper, it looks just like us and grand Jordan says to her. You're just my made get a grip just my made get a grip, and we see he's like throws the cake topper, very recklessly where the top falls into the pool lands in the pool. Yes, very interesting grant at this point if this is how he treats women and is a ploy is. Yeah. I mean, the the the suspect was his endless at this point. Yes. Was this the point in which then Veronica was fired. I think maybe not that second. But yeah, I think there's probably the one she's mentioning hey that looks like us, and we should get married. I think that's it. I think rise terminating is employee. There's been some sort of miscommunication. Where that he looks at her as his maid, and she thinks that they are engaged to be married. So there's been some sort of time. Yeah. Yes. Just the minor -cation. Yes. Okay. But that when we're talking about a Buddhist sand painting, Veronica Perez is no Buddhist. So it seems as though there is another party perhaps in the mix here and evidence is pointing to the neighbors. We knew the neighbors would have to circle back and be involved. Right. Yes. And nothing happens in this world in MAC Taylor's world. That's not connected. They don't just show us things for a reason. Yes. Grandeur grandch- in. Well, this is the greater MAC Taylor universe. Yes. Maktel universe. Like there are no coincidences. We've learned that. Okay. All right. So MAC Taylor that all of this is going on. We mentioned several weeks ago on this podcast that all of this took place around MAC Taylor's birthday, and he selflessly was working the case of Jenny Anders. And he seems driven by the fact that James McQueen is a nemesis. And he would love nothing more than to be able to finally put James McQueen behind bars yet does seem to be the Taylor McQueen feud, maybe has been boiling for six years. And some people think that he is almost too obsessed with it. Now you and I had talked on last week's podcast that ox, aka a Sheldon Hawkes appeared to have met Jenny Anders in flashback, and we did get confirmation of that where Sheldon met Jenny Anders at a party some months ago gave her his phone number. She held onto this phone number for months and months, then gave said phone number to the trash artists who turned it into the origami paper crane who then she put it back on her person. And also this caused a chemical burn on her. And so once MAC Taylor found out about this one of his own. Crime scene. Investigators not only new Jenny Anders not only met her didn't say anything and she also died with his phone number with Sheldon's phone number on her person. Well, MAC Taylor has seen enough. And he is not happy. Akiva, slab does not make compromises. We do not take shortcuts. We follow the evidence. Science is our integrity. You're off the -cation Sheldon's up the case. Well, that's a that's a real shocker. I will say that's Dr Sheldon to him. Let away. I yeah, that's stunning. To me. I'm reeling. I don't know. Like, I now you asked me last episode of Sheldon is is a suspect. I said, no, I still think. No. But I wouldn't rule it out. Can't be. I'd be. I'd be shocked if that was if judgment suspect, I mean, what's the motive what the motive? Yes. He he knew her. He gave her his phone machine. Ghosted him. On fact, Sheldon not an NYPD detective is just to see us. I just to see a psych and so- Sheldon had an interesting take on all of this. He feels like, hey, why taking me off the case? Maybe you're unfinished business with James McQueen is clouding your judgment Mak Taylor. Wow. Double Hameed house air you. How are you, sir? How dare you Sheldon, man? I tensions running high. And I get it. This is this is now a double murder, we got a lot on her plate. We don't even know if they're really connected yet. I we don't know how you know. It's almost over. We don't know how it's going to end up. So it's left to this. Yes. Maybe they don't solve the murders. Maybe we have to retitled this. And it's Robin kiva try to solve them or. Akiva, do you think that you have any evidence that is connecting the case of grand, Jordan and Jenny Anders at this point. It's keeping me up at night. I really don't. I I the other thing keeping me up at night is the trash artist named some, you know, mentioned something called diaper Licey. Yes. That is that is truly keeping me up. And I didn't know what that is. But I also like to announce on that having more chill and throw out the crappy movie typers. Yes. Yeah. No more credit movie that we're putting that in that nineteen ninety seven Akers Broncos. Suitable. I they might not be connected. We've been assuming all along that they're that. They're connected, but perhaps they're just two separate crimes. And that's why we're you know, investigating them both separately. Okay. We will have more updates for you next week as we continue the evidence pours in if you have any tips about these cases, you can't Email us. Need a podcast at rob has a website dot com. Anything you want to say until next time. Akiva, don't get diaper. Lice type relies. Okay. We'll talk to you next week on Robin. Akiva solve of Berber spring. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the finale of Robin, Akiva, south series of murders. And I rob sister. No here with my co host to keep a Winokur, and we have some huge news in these cases that we're following this week. And I just say one thing, rob. Yes. Ladies and gentlemen, we got him. We have broken both of these cases wide open and can talk about some of the conclusions. That are reporting has produced here in these cases, a, Akiva. I don't want to say that we saw the cases. But we do definitely get all the credit for it. Okay. I guess we should begin. With the case of grant, Jordan that we have been following for some weeks here on the podcast. And so we talked about a big break in the case which came up last week where some Buddhist sand art was found both on a used condom. I'm not really sure exactly how that came to be. And then also on the doormat of grant, Jordan and the crime scene. Investigators interrogated a nearby Buddhist artist. Yeah, I feel like just narrowing down the. The Buddhist artists that play with the red sand art and having one be the next door neighbor. That's a pretty easy solve. Yes. And so the crime scene investigators brought this man, do we know this suspect's name person of interest? No, no, not important to have a name guy next door. Neighbor, handsome, guy, number two neighbor, perhaps not getting a, you know, this was a TV show, perhaps not getting the full like sag apps stra after speaking with a name money, but maybe just like the, you know, the extra type role. Yes. And as a practitioner of the Buddhist sand art he needs complete silence to be able to practice his craft. It was an accident. I mean, he acts. He had no intention. It was not a premeditated murder. I'd say this guy probably gets added fifteen years, but he admitted to the cop that listen, I need quiet to make my art. And we'll have all while. I don't know why it all the time. He wants no about accident. He premeditated premeditated. Just in a fit of rage. As many Buddhist artists often just snap into fits of rage as they practice their Buddhist, meditation, they go quickly into a fit of successful of an artist. Was that he's living next? The great Randy Jordan. Also, I don't know. Maybe he was like a trust fund kid. Yeah. It's very that really checked out. Yeah. And so are artists says look that this guy grit, Jordan, he never quieted down always with the pull always with the sex. I'm trying to make some Buddhist art over here. And really just folded very quickly under the interrogation very much. Did not stick to his story. In fact, just come out come straight out admits that he was the murderer like a cheap suit. He folds didn't mean kill them. Always much. Bookham wanted us to empathize with me. It's like, yeah. That is annoying. When you have a noisy. Neighbor, your neighbors noisy and just go over and murdered him one of those things. Yeah. Every complained every single night except for the night in question when he just went over and killed him. Yeah. Did not exactly tile the loose ends together in his plan. Yes. And we speculated for many weeks on the podcast was this murder connected to the murder of Jenny Anders. And absolutely not just the be murder. Gotta say point. Yeah. We've been tracking this case for several weeks. A lot of time in this. We thought there'd be some connection. Maybe that maybe the art was connected to the with the trash artists that might a work that might have made a lot of sense really separate complicated artists in this in this in this series of murders a lot of red sand herrings in this case. But when you're in the room maids between Veronica Perez between everything else going on turns out, not just a noise complaint. Yeah. I would say Chekhov's red sand. They're calling it. Yeah. So really threw everybody off. And you would think that the killer that he had the presence of mind to close the pool, you would think he would have turned it off or maybe he just didn't even know how to do it. Yeah. I mean, I guess that's a complicated scenario he's never been in in the apartment before. So I don't know how could plug it. I don't know. But you would think this is tricky you'd think it would've still drove him crazy all night. But he went over to go kill the guy because he was running the poll, and then he never ended up turning off. You just put the guy in there and running but closed. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to dispose of that guy. That's gonna make a lot of noise. Yeah. Okay. All right. So that's one case down one to go. We need to go back to our ongoing case of Jenny Anders the woman who was killed during a elicit rave aboard. The New York City subway, we've had a lot of leads over these last couple of weeks on the podcast. We talked about the crime scene investigators who got into some turmoil during this investigation. It was MAC Taylor who had to come down hard on fellow investigator. Sheldon Hawkes in last week's podcast. We talked about that altercation. What we did not mention was this information that Sheldon knew this woman came by way of mactavish lady friend who was planning his big birthday. Yeah. And we should've mentioned also that she did set up a date at the vending machine at five o'clock. Yes. So a birthday vending machine date is still potentially in the cards for MAC Taylor. But there's still a lot of work to be done. The flask which contained the alcohol that Jenny Anders drank and was poised in from and then collected subsequently by Mr. trash artists was reassembled by the teams of crime scene. Investigators and there were three sets of prints that were found on this flask, Akiva. And who's who's were? They one was MS Anders to was Randy Kerns, the man who runs the B Y O B blue party, and then a third set of prints which have not been able to be analyzed by our system is that because they're so badly burnt perhaps that might be what the issue is. And so we're not able to put this all together. So we need to bring in Mr. Randy we need we need to talk to him about what's going on. Randy. Kern because perhaps maybe Jenny Anders was never the target of this assassination. Maybe it was the runner of the blue party himself. Randy Kern, you think so Randy right at this point. You're thinking maybe Randy was the murder and not and not our buddy. James? Well, he was the target of the target of the murder from our buddy James and not who could have wanted him dead though. Not a genders. Yes. Right. And so Randy Kern comes in for questioning and so- MAC Taylor wants to know one thing from you who gave you the flask. Now Randy gave the flask back to Jenny Anders who she drank from it, and then died, but who gave the flask to Randy? And we we our crack team at Robin accused self murder. We were able to see a flashback where we got the answer to that question. Right now, you, and I were thinking of all of the different potential people who could have potentially had the motive to kill Randy Kern, and you, and I instantly both thought James McQueen. He's gotta be he's the person that he would through Randy under the under the bus under the subway. So quickly earlier in the episode. Yeah. I mean, he was our first suspect. Yeah. And really are only suspects early suspect. Then we was really we can't even think of one of the person other than potentially a crime scene investigator, Sheldon Hawkes that might have even or the garbage the trash band. None of those early. You know, made a lot of sense. So we've been working the case and have felt like that James McQueen the person who owns the airplane party line. That may be. He was very jealous that Randy was making so much money on these elicit blue subway parties, and so the crime scene. Investigators ask him ask Mr. Kern under investigation who gave you the flask. Rainy currencies. Yeah. Remember that old thing the blue party? You don't know who gave you the flask that murdered somebody? Yeah. And so the crime scene investigators do some more research, and they realized that the substance that was in the flask. There was lead. And there was cadmium in the flask outside of the flask and the cadmium that's found on the ocean floor. Now, if you recall several weeks ago, we talked about how James McQueen talked about that. He just got. Done deep sea diving and I wasn't code like we said a terrible excuse he should not especially when we had a water related murdered out there. Although Cedeno that involved in that murder also confusing. Right. We had the the we thought that was an obvious clue that water related murders. And they had nothing do with each other. Yeah. We thought so no Sapir. He did go on an expedition to the ocean floor. But also inside the flask was hydrazine analog, which is used in experimental jet fuel the kind that was used by James mcqueen's fleet of airplanes. Yes, only his airplanes have the special jet fuel experimental fuel. This does seem like this would be if you were going to try to assassinate someone Akiva, and you were some sort of like airline industry magnate. It does seem like poisoning your enemy with. Experimental jet fuel seems like that could be tell. Yeah. Like, if I was murdering someone who probably shouldn't be with, you know, what's what am I famous for for having. I don't know. But whatever like with you, you wouldn't murder someone with the podcast Mike equipment. If I was going to strangle somebody with an excel our cable. A little a little bit of a, you know, odd moves moves trying to frame me. That's what they should do. Oh, sure. Yes. We've all thought of that for sure. Sure. Okay. So crime scene investigation realize hold on a second fine. Randy kern. He was definitely trying to be assassin or these target of an assassination from Mr James McQueen. Somebody find Randy Kern, and luckily the crime scene investigators get out to the airport and fine Randy Kern with a pistol at the airport waiting for James McQueen. Yeah. Very dramatic scenes. We're having here. Yeah. So a big arrest was made where Randy Kern was the subject of an assassination. He is now in police custody for the attempted murder of James McQueen. Yeah. Well, and I mean like, it seems like this would be a very dramatic moment. But I feel like this whole thing. You know, just ends abruptly. Well, then we see James McQueen come down tarmac. Where ironically, MAC Taylor has just saved his life. But also has the bad news. Very bad news. I was charged with the murder and James McGowan says you can't prove thing. I look I I didn't do what we're supposed to say to the police. Right. You can't prove it. You can't prove any. I did it. You just can't prove it. That's what you're supposed to say the police and Maktel says, hey, unwrap that bandage on your hand that's chemical burn from jet fuel the same jet fuel that was used to poison Jenny Anders take him away. And that's it. That's the we sell the murder you're done. You're done. Yeah. Okay. He seems like pretty calm that he's going to jail for the rest of his life. Although this wasn't he tried to murder someone if you tried murder someone beamer someone else's that like premeditated. Or is that more like manslaughter woman slaughter in this? It's not premeditated. I mean that was not what he was trying to do trying to murder he was trying harder somebody. But I don't know if you get less jail time for being inept where I was trying to murder somebody. But I ended up murdering the wrong person another episode. We have like a. LX get our team of legal analysts or Antonia, MS RO Lascher, and and Chester and see can really crack this case that's the dream team. The new supreme court hot bench of coming up. So Akiva that for Jenny enders. This was really a tragic case of really being in the wrong place in the wrong time. Yes, she was an associate a perhaps a room made of James McQueen. She let James McQueen snorts sex to see off of her legs before attending the blue party. And then James McQueen hands off the flask to Randy Kern. Did Randy current open the the carafe and then say. This smells like jet fuel going to give this back to know. He didn't even get it. She grabbed that of his hand before he was going to take a swig. He just didn't get too because she took it. He could have very easily, by the way, James McQueen could have very easily said, hey, that's like my grandma's flask. You need to give that back. He did. Not care. Yeah. So person's gonna die. No biggie. Yeah. So very very sad story. We do have some happy stories to report that MAC Taylor and Sheldon did get back on the same page that Sheldon talked about that. Yes. He did meet Jenny Anders. And he's just wrecked with the thought that what if he would have gotten her phone number and called her? Maybe he could have been the guy that she talked to instead of going and hanging out with James McQueen letting James McQueen snorts sex to see off her legs. Yeah. It could have been his legs could have been his legs that could have been there thing. But no, he's just. You know, he should've called her. She seems like a fun time. And also it really was a coincidence that even met her because she was again, not only should not the intended victim. She was the accidental victim. So he now we just have one of our detectives randomly running into the accident victim even more random also Mack Taylor. He does get to finally finish his birthday celebration. He and his girlfriend. We'll get to the vending machine. Dr pain Driscoll, by the way. I know we have not revealed her name for the first five so yes. Claire for Lonnie. She is going to surprise him with something out of the vending machine. Looks like that they get a set of hostess cupcakes. Akiva, sure that you were trying to hold back vomit from coming up as they ate chocolate cupcakes. Yeah, it looked like, but it also look like they weren't in rappers. Like, they just like there was just out of the package chocolate cupcakes coming out of the vending machine. You might have been a very interesting vending machine. I don't know what what's going on at the NYPD. But maybe they have ready made foods there. Okay. Akiva, you, and I have discussed these two mass murders on our true crime podcast as we've solved these murders any takeaways in our final episode of Robin, Akiva, solve a murder spree. I'm just glad there's not a serial killer on the loose. We solve both of them. I think they'll both be brought to Justice. You don't have to worry about them on the streets for a longtime. Randy Kern, also probably going to go to jail for a little while. Yeah. Yeah. So I think every. All these bad actors are off the street, and I only hope that Veronica press Jordan can find the, you know, another man the trick hoodwink into marrying her guess could somebody pick up the torch of the blue party. Do you think that tra- trash artists could potentially get the ball rolling? I have a feeling that the NYPD, although they didn't stop it after the death. Because I think they needed to interview people. I think they're going to really put this to first of all the main the main obviously already runner is in jail. I have a feeling they're going to put an end to this party. Okay. Maybe a green party will start for hats. And then we'll Michael Bloomberg be able to do anything to help out Mr James McQueen now that he has been charged with these crimes. I think he's gonna pretend you never met him. Okay. All right. Akiva, any other thoughts. Yeah. I think I'm just glad that this is the first time we ever tried to solve a murder, and I'm glad we're we're already experts. We're so good at I'm. I'm also very glad that once upon a time. We had an idea for a podcast where we were going to watch season. Three episode seven of CSI New York every single week on the podcast. God. Hi, thank God and Buddha. Every being that. We did not all the sad ever. Come close to watch. That was supposed to be the podcast. We could have been twenty nine episodes into watching this on an episode. We would be we friends on Facebook. Yeah. All right. Let's get to the wheel. All right achieve. Let's talk about the wheel. We went right into our true crime podcast this week. We didn't really talk about any of the fallout from the TV theme song bracket from last week. Yeah. Would do you think there's a lot of fallout while using that word there was fallout certainly so just the here's the story of the post production on that. So ended up taking a really long time three and a half hour podcast. I believe that is the longest Rene episode that we've done so far, and I guess depending on how this wheel spin goes today. I believe that that should hold. Episode twenty eight let's the wheel brakes, I think we're we're right? So we recorded that late into Sunday night. I had to get the podcast out and Monday's a very busy day with the wand off and everything and I also had to get into the Walking Dead because that sort of I we recorded that podcast and the time. So I thought I would normally the Walking Dead. But I was just I wanted to go to bed before I didn't wanna wake up on Tuesday to a bunch of angry messages from Rene listeners about the podcast and how they didn't get to listen to it yet. And they were they were angry. So I, you know. Stay up late issue for me. To edit the podcast got it out went to sleep and woke up to just a tweet storm of angry messages about how that the audio was terrible to Chester call in from a spaceship, Chester get a new microphone. This is garbage. What is what is wrong with Chester's audio? And that there was a double Chester audio track. In the version that I uploaded and people were very upset. Rightfully so. Yeah. Rightfully so. You really you got up pretty soon after the messages started coming in you fix it right away. I do think there's people out there who probably didn't realize maybe didn't see the post on Facebook or on Twitter, and they listen to the whole thing with double Chester or alternatively. They didn't. And maybe they can go back now if they want to and and listen to a pristine audio version, but yeah, I think because that's what Donald to your phone. I you might be stuck with that. Unless you realize that if you have it deleted, and then you should have the right ones. And then there was a second firestorm. Boy, all of our terrible takes people. Yeah. Killing us people killing Chester for the bracket was bad. Our tasks were bad. And I feel like that. It was almost universal that the the comments that we got were you guys are idiots, Chester. Doesn't know what he's talking about. Everything was horrible. And I really enjoyed it. Yeah. I'd say it was the most feedback. We've got from any epic. Yeah. We got hundreds and hundreds of tweets. Yeah. Right. Nobody was like you guys nailed it your perfect. Maybe people said that but very lets people listened the whole four hours they liked it. They just didn't like our opinions. We were very clear with the chest apart that we had no say and even Chester had no say over what songs got picked that was based on previous lists. If you hated that, Robin. I advanced certain show over another. Although I will think people do think people kind of like the winner, we didn't really get a lot of. About the winner was really the Shirley round of you guys made all terrible decisions. Yeah. And but but I enjoyed it. So. Mixed mixed feedback. So we think that I'll take that yet allowed the loud minority of listeners liked it. I will say. People really people already saying you gotta do this again. And we've said like bracket season is over. It's over not doing a bracket till next March twenty twenty can we say in March twenty twenty that there will be a theme song to with all new songs. Winner faces fresh prints. Okay. The I'm okay with that. That's fine. We can talk about that next. We could get scrubs and Greenacres and Dawson's creek. And all the songs that people say were snubbed Mabel have a listener vote because the listeners complain. But that's fine. A chance maybe do a good job. And they believe that a chance maybe we can get the tabulate or involve the people. Sure that your top five and then the top four four results. Maybe. It's a good idea. We got we got a year for that. And it should be thrifty thirty two. Yeah. Forty four. Person said this is too long. That was it's funny. People can people love one. Tweet about that. Like, I said, hey, I fixed the podcast, and then somebody was like, yeah. Well, the run time is still three hours and thirty minutes so work on I will say they're in the the just an absolute minority because people want quantity that that's what they've definitely made clear. All right, Akiva. So let's talk about mount Renate more. What is going to go onto the wheel this week? I believe next week. It's going to be episode number thirty of rob. Keeping you podcast episode thirty. We haven't really done any episode rings. We said we'd do it after twenty five, but we did we didn't really have a mail bag after that episode. People do want to rate maybe after thirty two. No, that's bracket. Maybe after thirty. We'll have a little we'll have big props to bend. The bend my personal system who found us this episode. Where can we we have to figure out where to why put a link in the opening of the podcast before before the everything I will have a link to if anybody wants to Rob's website, I com slash CSI NY to watch the episode along from that terrible site. Yes. So we have I guess let's get to the let's get to the first suggestion for the actually can I we did not the last couple of episodes get into things that were from ten back to talk about putting them back onto the wheel. I think we last talked about episode seventeen pranking listeners, we have our idea tank or total idea live so people are going to call into us. So we kind of third wheel. I think there's two versions of that already. On the wheel wheel. But that's sort of waiting for the the, Robin. Eva total request live to. Okay. Be coming. Right. After that episode number eighteen was Robin. Akiva needed podcast number eighteen. I can't believe it's just banter should that be back on the wheel eventually but not right now. Okay. And then number nineteen Robin you podcast nineteen was conspiracy. Pod. The time a lot of people wanted more conspiracy pod with Antonia Mazaar should that be back on the wheel conspiracy pod to one of our most popular episodes? Yes, I think we have so many ideas in the hopper. I don't think we need to go back and potentially have it hit the wheel hit next week? And then we're looking at only eleven weeks eleven episodes, maybe three months between odd casts. The problem is that when we say that then it never ends up getting back on the wheel. Yes. I thought about this. I we're gonna put it in. We'll wait and room. I'm gonna make a note, and we're going to discuss in like five or six more episodes. Hey, should we put this back on? And then we'll do that. Because definitely coming back, and we'll come on relatively soon. But I don't I don't think it needs to be this week. But I will make a note, maybe every five episodes. We'll see hey, well, we ready for that. And maybe five episodes from now, we will be ready for that. But it's hard to really keep going back to sequels when we have so many things looked to Oregon trail, let's say that have been waiting their turn patiently for thirty episodes and having come pick it. Well, first things I I do think that we need to get Antonio. It's a sign off on conspiracy to that. I think 'Send Tonio that isn't that? We have it on, you know. Right. If you wanna drive Oregon for conspiracy to and if he if he's on board, then I think we should green light it. Okay. So I can ask Antonio. Yeah. I do think next week we should clear the wheel waiting room instead of the mailbag because we have about twenty things in there for episode number thirty. Okay. All right, okay. Idea number one. Well, it's really related to we haven't done a fishbowl request in a while because a fishbowl is pretty full. And I have a feeling the fishbowl is about to get pick. As it's at over fifty percent of the way Levin spots right now. That that's more than I think everything else combined or very close to it. So Jennifer writes in and says yes under percent, okay? After last week's podcast what about season three episode seven, golden girls. Okay. Robin, Akiva, or the golden guys golden guys. Okay. Well, I like the branding of the golden guys. So I'm good to put that in the fishbowl, but that's fishbowl. Right. Name golden. Retrospective of the golden girls where these three up to seven of golden girls. Yeah. I think I think that makes an where you golden girls fan. I mean, I was not a golden girls stand. But it used to be on Saturday nights on NBC. They used to have a whole block of shoulder. I think I was I don't know the dates on it. But I think I was like late eighties to the early nineties. So I'm somewhere between the ages of eight to twelve have a I was just nervous that you're like in high school, and that was your Saturday night watching the golden. I mean, I don't think it would have not been my Saturday night had golden stop. It was it was a non as you were too busy. Yeah. So it was part of a NBC Saturday night with like empty nest and nurses. I think was another show that was on during that. And so like it was almost like the JV Thursday night blocked NBC had like. Saturday night block like a bunch of sitcoms, and they had a couple times where they did like, oh, it's a hurricane all the shows like had the same thing going on. But yeah, I did I did follow the golden girls. And also that my great grandmother was a big fan of it. Wow. Okay. I could see that. Everyone's great-grandma probably like the golden girls. Yes. She was a bit of a. Stella Getty, and I can't remember her character name off the top of my head. Dorothy. Yeah. I I've seen it. But I don't know the name. So I'm looking forward to watching that right number two of the four mountain net. More ideas for this week. This comes from Tom Palmer on social says oh feel. I will gotten thirty seven angry tweets and the time. It took me to remember that the tweet. Yeah. Rob got it. All right, Robin, Akiva needed drinking game. What's to come up with the official drinking game for a and your some of his suggestions whenever a kiva suggests getting guests that they actually have zero percent chance of ever booking. Okay. Yeah. We'd never did. Get Jerry, Seinfeld Seinfeld podcast or any of the core for another ideas has whenever rob shoots down a good idea for fear of the listeners getting mad. I didn't know what this is podcast. We're coming up with all this a podcast. I think this is just like a drinking game that listeners could play. Oh, okay. So if they want to anytime, I suggest the guest. Hey, we should have got Gary Sinise for this episode, rob. Yeah. He's a lot of like I mean, he has a following on Twitter. He's very big into the troops. That's why they had is pretend character be an ex marine sort of TV stolen, valor. Because he loves the millions. And he does a lot of like, you don't think it's true. Tenant Dan thing. I mean, I think that's why he goes for the roles where he's a former or current troop for sure. Yeah. So I don't know what we're doing with the listeners are making things really a podcast idea. It's just if you want if you're at home, and you want to drink even the less said, no one should ever drink has anybody actually ever played a drinking game that was like anything that was like every time. This happens you drink. I think I think people. Once in the entire history of people. Yes, it definitely has happened. Once I will bet that. Like, here's a drinking game like people play during games with cards or shooting down a good idea for fear of the listeners getting mad right now, and they should be drinking. I don't know who who who came up with this, Gregory this from Tom, Tom. Gregory Gregory suggests who's Gregory that was last week. Gregory was the was the food hot take. Okay update on that. We got some takes. But I don't think enough to do a podcast. So that's right now on hold not even in the waiting room. Okay. If people have aches. They wanna get takes. But none of them were were really spicy. They were kind of lukewarm. Is that about the food? Yes. The food. It was a lot of like I like to put Exxon y and that's weird. Right. It wasn't a lot of the worst food in the world is steak stakes. Can I can I can I throw something out there hearing about food is boring. Yeah. Food. Hearing that food is the most interesting thing. Yeah. Okay. I don't care what people are eating and just had Haley strong, a podcast you guys discussed. We talked. We talked about this. And he talked about how that look I don't think food is that exciting. I bet. Haley was horrified. It's not it's not there's much more exciting things than food. Okay. Speaking of something not as exciting as food keep talking Timothy wrote in with a with an idea for this week's wheel. And he says my ideas for an episode. That's a live episode much like a patron cast. That's that's right. It would live at the Robina kiva our live. No. But that's that's only a small part of his idea. He says my is very similar to one of those dueling piano bars where you pay a dollar to get ano- players play a song instead viewers or listeners can pay pal or van MO or Zillow, I guess you a dollar and tell you what topic to talk about you have to talk about that topic for at least five minutes or until someone outbids the current topic price. So someone says here's a dollar talking about survivor. But then someone says, no. No, no, no. Here's two dollars. You guys need to talk about game of thrones. Well, if we did the money should go to charity. This should be like feels like a cash grab feel like a cash grab. Let's keep talking. Timothy wants the money to go to him that was this planet. We're sort of like webcam guys at this point. Hey, we'll tell sewed, rob. Akiva, you want you're paying. Okay. So I don't think dollars the minimum. I think we gotta make five bucks. Yeah. I don't know what the mechanism is. The sounds like a very technically Amish. So. Look, I think if it was a good cause, and we had a charity, and we and we do this, and it could be fun to podcast the actual podcast. Because again, if especially if this video sounds like it would be on listenable for this episode. It's like us talking about the Mets for thirty seconds. And then somebody's like, no, no, no, no, you guys need to talk about politics comes in with like, fifty bucks. And it's like talk talking about. The wall like, okay, great, bright. Yeah. I so I think the actual podcasts would be unlistenable. It is a fun idea. The seems like very like two thousand twelve rob like something you would have done back in the day. Maybe maybe, but I'm dueling. Are you have been doing piano bar? I have been yes. So and I've never really been anywhere. So I'm shocked up in. But once I went to birthday parties, I like it. But every time they like they play song. I get psyched up and then someone else throws. And by the way, never give a dollar. I'm not too cheap to pay for them. Yes. Someone else outbids with the song. I liked and they play it. And then a met. Okay. What are you gonna do? All right. So that's three out of four. Okay. Here's a here's a complicated. One from the Moines. My suggestion for the wheels, partly inspired by takeoff and partially inspired by Rob's recent inch of the good place. Yes, I'm a total Chidi called Robin, Akiva, enter the good place. Here's how it work listeners would work as architects and after create an afterlife experienced that would appear to be heaven for rob kiva, but is actually eventually revealed to be a torture chamber, for example, someone can replicate a Seinfeld universe. Which would initially seem fun until Robin Akiba realized they're stuck with George and Kramer for as friends for attorney real can send in their suggestions for this fake paradise. And Robert it could judge gestures on how likely would the paradise appeal or fool them out miserable. This is still complicated. It's very complicated really council, and we're having trouble getting people to send us like, hey, what are some weird things you do? Food now. It's lying. All right. Listen are sending afterlife experiences for very creative. But I think it's like, so it's too complicated. It's too complicated. And I think that it would really need a lot of legwork that we're not willing to. Yes. But if frail Mary wanted to write a fan fiction where we were dead and in the afterlife that's that fan fiction. I guess we'll find out when next week we go through the wheel waiting room. Okay. All right. Akiva, anything that that this was we blew through this pretty quick. Yeah. People do on quantity. Should we stall before we he'll get Atty? Let's give it give me another even if they're not good. Give me another couple. Oh, you want another ideal? Trust me. They're not good. We we do need a new sort of soil now. Well, let's just put the call to action. Need a podcast as Rob's website dot com, or Seinfeld Poche. Recaps dot com. Okay. This is from my friend, Ari gold. He says in the air of peak TV, I love you guys to explore some of the earliest popular sitcoms and comedies and see how they hold up my mother-in-law shot up. Mrs Jacobson recently claimed that leave it to beaver was the best show ever made. And though, I value or opinion, deeply I'd love to hear you guys tear that apart or review with early. So his mother thinks that leave it to be a better show than the wire. Let's just say, okay. And he nominates I love Lucy leave it to beaver and dragnet, go decade by decade and pick three three shows from each decade. This is the fifties. Next up would be the sixties. I is anybody wanna hear that? They might want to hear us breakdown. Leave it to leave it to be. No, I just love the fact that it's like she thinks it's the best show ever. That is a scorching. Kyle says the deal for the wheel for me would be Robin. Akiva, take quick shots at America's favorite thing. Or things that rob is called to beloved discussed throw. In addition to the wind and give issues takes on issues like friends office stores. Harry Potter the Beatles or anything else that may make someone upset. So this is episode is called to beloved listeners takes in. And why they ate something that is generally loved to love it to beloved. I think that there's something here. What are we doing? We're just gonna throw out like a talk about this subject. That's two beloved or why we don't like something that people really love, I guess people. Give us a list of twenty things and we rip into them. But we have to rip into them. What if we what if we like what we have to find a flaw in things that are beloved? Okay. I think that. Yeah. So it's like. I mean, I guess we wait until the episode gets picked, and it's sending your things, and then someone maybe we picking them or is there like a sort of third party? Why think that this one requires the third party we need because we can't know what's coming? We've got a riff off the cuff, we need somebody who's going to work on a semblance in the list of the twenty things that are. And then we go for like, two two and a half minutes where we have to talk about, you know, find flaws with things that are almost universally beloved. Okay. So to beloved too, I like that. I like that. I I would say that we it's waiting for somebody to sort of be like the architect of it. Yes. Yeah. We need someone to really steer that ship. Yes. But I'm very much putting it into the waiting room in here in the waiting room. Okay. I like it. All righty. All right. Do you wanna hear one more one more crappy one? Sure, okay, Robin. Akiva, crew create a reverse bucket list. It's called the list list of things they never want to do before they die each bring items through discussion and debate they create the definitive list of the up ten effortless. I mean, just most things. Right. Like things are on our efforts almost everything on her effortless. Yeah. I mean, not a lot of things that I'm really trying to do. Now. I'm trying not to do almost anything most. I don't have we can even fit that into one podcast. Like, my my effortless includes like ever, go to a supermarket again, be LA food. I don't wanna I don't go shopping. First of all, you get delivery now and second of all my wife likes through the shopping anyway. But you don't wanna see what they have. I love food so much. I didn't know what they have at the supermarket. What do you think they got new stuff? They get new stuff. So sometimes she'll be like, hey, she knows what I like show. Like text me like you want this by the time. I answered she's already left the store. Okay. So I don't think there's enough there. Okay. All right. We added a couple of things to the we'll wait and next week. We're cleaning at the wheel. Wait, you're either getting into the room or your or your off the wheel waiting room next week. And we say that. Yes. Okay. All right. So let's talk about what's on the wheel season. Three episode seven an all time high eleven spots on the wheel for the fishbowl. Yeah. On the the wheel list. What's the website for that? Again. Rob has a website dot com slash wheel list of American keeps that up, and you can really there's a visual of of it and through seven is like Godzilla at this point. It's taking over the whole thing. Right. I believe that there will be a visual representation of what the wheel looks like as a vis spin. Okay. It's scary. And you can see what's what's in the fish bowl. I still need to pull some things out of the fishbowl that that got kicked out way back win. But they're still currently in the fishbowl. It could be a scandal that could be a scandal. 'cause he has a remember what shouldn't be in the fishbowl. We've do before. The remember. All right coin flip, boom, rob. Or Akiva will decide what is the subject of the next episode based on the flip of a coin for twenty eight so far. Okay. It used to be Rob's choice choice. But we urge it into one. Okay. Oregon trail still has been picked rise in fall of Jonathan Taylor Thomas. We call them JT around here. MTV shows are trashed that's with Alli Lascher. Can I stop you for a second? Yeah. So Ellie Lascher. I did I mentioned this on the show where she has a MTV's the challenge podcast. Yes. And she wanted me to come on her show. And she mentioned on a podcast. Hey, if you tweeted a kiva, maybe like five people tweeted him, and he'll agree to come on the show, and like sixty five people tweeted me saying, hey, go on alleys show. So I said alley sure I'll go on your show. And then this week I was talking to her. And I said alley whenever you want. I'm willing to come on the show. And she said, no sorry, you're banned you're banned. Why over the minimum over Missy? No. No, geez. I think still mad about that. But that's not why I'm banned. Why are you band? I don't even know if I should say that you have to now. Okay. Why went on a different challenge? Pod. At a wet on. It was a show is this river show. Yeah. I really am for saying this. I'm not sure he'll say, but she I was fair. She doesn't want to get guests who've had their takes used up on another show in the same. I hear that. I hear that. I am end for life. Not just for this season banned for life, by the way, our thing. I think this is more about Missy then it's not it's not our podcast lives rent-free and their podcast heads. We get mentioned a lot on that show. Yes. And I don't know what I can do. So I asked Alice at what can I do to get unbanned for life income on your show? Yeah. And she said if at least five people tweet meet saying unbanned kiva. So you think we could get to five where we're deep into this. So at lash tweets L, A S H tweets and just say unbanned, even if you want me to still be banned than say don't own Bannock, Eva. Okay. But by the way, can I say one more thing related to our about about that show. Sure. So they had an auction on the challenge podcast. And they said we're this went to some university of Michigan law school related charity where one person could bid, you know, about this could bid to be on their podcast this. This. Well, this is a luck going on on the network that you don't know about this is well, you gotta you gotta tighten up. The I don't know. You gotta take something that people guest spots on your network. You don't even know. I don't need to listen to every minute of the podcast. You should know. Hey, we're all listen live me when there's a problem. I hear about it. Anyway, Elliott probably very mad. You know, anyway, so they didn't auction and it was bought for a lot of money. More money than alley spent on buying four place behind four tickets behind home plate at a game. Which would definitely wanted to bid on that. It seems like it was way too cheap. It was I think the two hundred thirty five dollars was the was the price of a spot on the challenge podcast with Alli. How much was it? Two hundred thirty five dollars a win for the crisis. And but here's where this is. All connected. It was bought by one Jeremy Hamilton. Jeremy Hamilton is Charon me Hamilton where his he come in to play on our did he go on one of the dates? He went on a date. He'll yes. Vegan baker. Gluten free bakery Francisco from Oakland from Berkeley. I forget which one and he also was one of our three finalists for our Jeff zone. Right. It was him. My friend Abe who I unfairly as qualified because he. Recorded the episode, and he had a religious obligation, and it probably should have knocked them out. And then Melissa who ended up winning the tiebreaker was on the show. So Jeremy was so close to coming on her show, and he's very excited to be podcast guests, he could taste it. And then he lost it and he wanted to get back. So he bid two hundred thirty five dollars to be on your show. I did tweet at him and say and Brian thirty and brought me Br I should only be mentioning Brian because by didn't ban me Ellie and me, and I told Jeremy that any point for two hundred thirty four dollars. He could probably come on the show. But yes, so he wanted to be on this show. We didn't let him and so people are, you know, they're getting are are sloppy seconds. Like, they're getting you know, are rejected guests, basically, even though we like, Jeremy. Okay. All right. So let's try to get a kiva unbanned from the unbanned kiva at lash tweets. Follow her just tweeted. All right, then we have. Robin, Akiva, need a life. Coach Caitlyn Herman infomercials our trash with Eric. Eric Stein was not happy with us with us the song bracket he felt like that. When really screwed the pooch you'll he could be part of the March twenty twenty bracket if you want. Okay, we'll see so Chester and Eric Stein. We'll figure it out we commit to twenty people on. No one's gonna remember it. So you're okay. That will definitely not come back to bite us more. All right. The Royal rumble is on the wheel the crabby movie diaper slash hat. And we're considering rebranding the crappy movie diaper after hearing about diaper lice from the trash artist. But right now, it is still there. Total ideas live is the Scott total idea. Request live, so the total request live is still in there thrill turtle. Exactly. All right. Millennials killed it. I believe is Dr Mander been with the guest, or is she just putting that together. It's up to her. I think she can be the guests or she could just put it together. Okay. Busy lady. Wind showed up Kim's money is in play this week. Yes. Yes. That is implying. Okay. Now was there any updates from our buds person Issia, Akiva? I don't think. So I think we're good. I don't think we any questions for last week. Okay. All right. Yeah. It was a short wheel segment last week. The first time we haven't had a guest on the wheel segment in a couple of weeks. It's weird not having a guest because we got so used to it. But I will say the majority of the odd cast that are on the wheel have guessed. Okay. All right. So you're ready to spin the wheel. Episode thirty. Can you believe it? Can you believe where you're thirty? He's never get there. Yeah. Thirty and we're we're just getting started here. Imagine if this is the thirtieth episode of watching that same. We would we would have been done that would have been we would've just say, honestly, how many do you think we could? We would I tried to watch it twice and the second time. Like there is nothing. It's not enough that it's funny. Yeah. But it's like, I guess would there have been like little things that we would have picked up New York. Also, this is very like the sort of interstitial between scenes, very, no it. I think we would have picked up on different things like on the train party different thing. Yeah. We're like like, hey, did you see what was in the garbage disposal? What was going on like in the forensic lab? So things were not made to be analyzed. It's like a night. It's like you shouldn't do podcast every episode of late night with Jimmy Fallon. They weren't made to really held up the hand. They don't hold up. Okay. All right here, we go. Here's the wheel episode number thirty of Rene up while will it be. Here we go round and round. And it is coming up. It is not season. Three episodes seven every little bit of a photo finish year zoom in and it is Robin. Akiva, need a life. Coach. Ooh. That is with Caitlin Herman that could be a bitty scheduling Tricia Esther. So next step is I will shy text Kaelin Herman now and see if you do the life coach podcast this week. Yes. You shook. Let's let's see if we can do anything that we could banter about while. I'm waiting to hear back from her. Yeah. We'll figure something that's about to be to know. Okay. So kudos there to the Mets. Okay. All right. So text Caitlyn Herman. Are you available to do the? Life advice podcast sometime. In the next week. Okay. Let's see. And hopefully, we get an answer to she's not we wait another week or do we scrap her or I don't know what happens. So we're having before if she's not available. Let's see if she is not avail. I'd love to just stay on until we can get an answer on this. But if she says that she's not available then I think we have to spin again. Right. Another chance if it comes up next time. Yes. Or or she's I can do it next week. I guess we can then spin the wheel and then not have a wheelspin next time. I don't like that idea. Well, what what way I mean, we have these things with guests that are dependent. Then we shouldn't have things it'd be at the whim of our need should be. But I'm like, this is a great honor. And. Out of your hound for a week. I mean, do they have the internet where she is? Like is she in a remote island with no internet wouldn't want her in person. Oh, I do wonder. Well, I'm not in my jeez. Welcome to me. But I feel like you're person. Yeah. It was at the plan died. That's the plan to have her here in person. But if she doesn't answer for four hours, so we just going to keep this going. Can we commit to just keep we'll like give it five minutes. Yeah. Five minutes. That's what she's got. Okay. Five minutes. And then we'll then we'll sure we just record two different ends to the podcast like a choose your own adventure like one where she says. Yes. And the next one where we just do adult a spin. Okay. All right. Let's then so you wanna record an alternate ending where? She is where she says she can't do it. Okay. So this'll be the ending of that. She can't do it. And then we'll talk through. Okay. Like, all right. Akiva, bad news looks like Caitlin is not available to do the podcast was where do we go from here? We got a respond that wheel re spin the wheel. And so sadly, we did not get Caitlyn Herman. So this is what we're going to do instead. Correct. Okay. All right here, we go. We'll spinning what if it's Kaelin Herman again. Then this like fate really wants us to ever season three episode seven. Yeah. Well, that's not a big shock. Okay. So are you ready to go to the fishbowl? I mean, do we need to we do need to go to the fishbowl? Yes. Okay. This is golden girls fishbowl have a one week just stationed period like the wheel does I say, no. The odds are against it. So yeah. The odds are about one in twenty one. All right. I haven't heard that sound in. Then we reach you in. Is closed. Well, people ever hear this if Caitlyn Herman just text back and says I'm in. Yeah. Okay. Okay. All right. So here we go kiva. This is in my hand. I have SNL. SNL season. Three episode seven almost got kicked out of the fishbowl was not kicked out of the fish. It was not. Okay. All right. So we are going to talk about is that just the two of us. Yeah. We have a guest. Okay. That's fine. What about Lauren? Do you think we get lowered Lorne Michaels? Yeah. Well, I just want people to drink or Lauren from survivor know, Lauren with any aiding guy. I was friends with more than short. Yeah. Michael's really thinks. I ninety nine percent, sure. That the show has to end when he's done. You know, what I mean, you think so I think in his mind that the show cannot continue without even though I'm sure NBC is going to fight tooth and nail for that. That's that's my impression. I don't I don't think I've ever heard that. No. This is just my take. Yeah. I think it's a cold take. No, I'm pretty sure that he has said things like. Listen, we used to get lower this. Yeah. We'll ask him when we come when he's on the pod. And he's onyx week who was the host of SNL. Season's episode seven. I think it was like someone we'd never heard of some ridiculous person. It wasn't Candace Bergen. No. It was neither the actress Candice Bergen Northey raises politician. Okay. SNL season. Three episode seven. Yes. It was Mary Kay place. With musical guest Willie Nelson. Okay, Willie Nelson we deal with so real watch freaking episode real bummer. Caitlyn? Herman was not available to the I tried to kick the S and L out of the fishbowl. But the listeners knew better than make. Yes, what they wrought. Look. I think we'll have fun. I think it'll be good. It'll be good bad is good and good is good. But mediocre. Yes. Fleas? Also this on Hulu where we watching these. I feel I guess it bounces around every year. It was on hopefully, not the same side. We watched CSI New York. No, no, this and L is actually on one of the streams this just bounced around because it was like Yahoo had its own thing. But then like that went boss think. And if Caitlyn is available, and this is back in the fishbowl or we burning this. This is. I'd like to burn it. But it doesn't get burned because of this. You know what? I mean. It's like we can we can next week say, hey, we were not excited for that. Let's boot it. But it doesn't give it shouldn't get punished. Like it's already punched enough that it doesn't happen. Okay. I've never wanted Keeton Kaelin Herman to respond to you more than I do right now. Okay. All right. So let's record the ending where that Caitlin has responded that she is going to be on test. We also keep this in like is this whole thing in. Yeah. Okay. Fine. We don't have to add it. Okay. Alright Akiva next week. Caitlyn Herman will discuss question that we need people to send us their questions of their life advice question. So this is going to be one that this could be a quick podcast or a long one. Yeah, we need a so. Yeah. Put RA any p at new at rubs as rob as website dot com. That's right or need a podcast rubs website signing social, recaps dot com. I feel yes. If you're still an old school. The original your your life question. But he'll try to keep like a paragraph because I it's really interesting. Yeah. The most like, I know everybody feels like their life is the most interesting thing. But really when you're doing these dating advice shows or anything like paragraph is really a lot like five hundred words is like wait who is this again, what is going on so paragraph? Try to try to be sustained and in keep your wife already not a huge fan of the show of RAI keeping you the podcast, right? She is one of her least favorite shows and not a big fan. Probably. I think this is her least favorite of all the podcasts afford a freaking hater is she's in the silent majority. Yes. I can't even mention rob Makita podcast without like, and I roll from hell not it's not because listen, we're putting her kids through college. Of course, she doesn't care about that. But now having I think she looks at this podcast as like, okay, I understand the function of the survivor coverage. This is you're just messing around with kiva. This is not a integral part of the rob. As a podcast experience, Tuesday f. Suze f that one dozen news AFC, but these af is shorter. And I think she's like she likes Tyson more than you fair. And it doesn't really like impact that much. I'm in my wife hates it. Also. So record this weekend's she has to he knew more about this. Like, nobody's Nicole. Did you hear what happened on news? Af. No, yeah. Listen, we got we make headlines though. That's what we do. Right. Rob. Yeah. So I think she's going to be extra mad because I think kaylin come into the studio for a Robin, Akiva pot. She's just not going to like that. No. It'll be fine Nicole Caitlyn routinely. Caitlyn works out at a like she goes to the gym next to where my wife goes to go boxing. She's well, it's gonna be you up. I think she's training to like you. The trial. I think I'm still faster than her. I would guess you're faster. Yeah. Much longer limbs than she does. Like, they're they're not afraid of read some podcasts reviews while we're still waiting fruitlessly for Kaylynn through sponsor tax. Okay. All right. So let's go ahead. And let's look this up seen. Anybody gave us any reviews in the apple podcasts store. You can go to rob has a website dot com slash NAP to go ahead and go directly to our page in the apple podcasts store, and we're going to go ahead and bring up, Robin. Akiva need a podcast with one hundred seventy four ratings in the I tunes. Apple podcasts store. Okay. Oh, here's a one of our most recent ones. And this comes to us from a listener looks like we got a lot of feedback from the TV theme song bracket from people. This is from Karen by the bay says kiss my grits. The theme song to Alice was snubbed used to be. Said used to be shy. Don't all the rest of the words come from there. Even if you can barely remember show. Why don't even know what she's talking about? I don't even know what show she's fucking about. All right. The deal with this week, rob. All right people saying how was my show snubbed. And we've never even heard of the show that are talking about. All right, then here comes somebody named pure coin. Pure coin says a warning to those yet to listen first off, I'm not I tunes user and setting up their services a frustrating. Ordeal. But it was vital that I leave this review. It literally took me an hour to get to this point. And I only tell you this. So you can appreciate the severity of what follows avoid this podcast at all costs. Rob sister. Nino of the scorn fame and his young ward kiva Winokur are on a mission to create the longest podcast possible. It started out instantly enough with a couple of music videos and enjoying the company perfect strangers and it since devolved into a non stop barrage. Of musical interludes sleeping listener updates. And sometimes even forget that they have a show and just banter for the whole episode. They don't even speak English anymore. It's all Yeats and ups, I fear in the not to distant future episodes won't be measured in hours. But in days, there's one saving grace at the start of every episode, rob explained the entire podcast down to the small detail. So newcomers we've lost. So he this warning. And don't fall into the trap that myself in almost a dozen listeners before me have the trap. That is Robin. Keeping you to podcast love it. Okay. We nuts. Five stars five stars. Yes. Then also a couple other quick ones. This is one enraged incensed angered and infuriated is the headline here by invisible terror. There are some of the emotions that I went through listening to the latest podcast advocate ranked TV theme songs created by a list from the Cheetos mascot, Chester shot at Chester their criteria for which songs made it through was inconsistent and seemed to hinge on whether kiva kind of burst of energy or falling asleep. I think that he had a stroke in the middle hours of the podcast where he was making a weasing noise for a while. This was by far and away the best episodes of our. So I would give it a go. Can I can I say, by the way made a prediction after last week's episode? Yes, I thought that someone would write in and say they got new car accident during the different strokes. Bunch of like a gotten a bunch of like almost got we have gotten those emails before. Right. Like, I almost got in a car accident. I got hit by a car. We got I thought like because I listen back to it. I know I never listen to my podcast just to hear what it sounded like and my laughter was so infectious it made me laugh, again, just I have never heard you make a noise like that. It was five in the morning. I was the legal. What is what's happening to kiva? Like I made the joke. I I think it was funny. But it might not have been like the funniest thing ever been uttered five in the morning when I hadn't slept like two days. I was delirious. Yeah. I couldn't stop laughing. But I listen, I think that I think it's going to be tough to beat that to make the best of our ASAP for next when the clip show comes back on the wheel and a couple of clip show, the P clip show. Okay. Are entrant into that. Yet might be tough to be. Yeah. The only thing working against it is, you know, I don't know if if in general stroke humor is. You know, widely loved I didn't get one complaint. We got we got a hundred people saying that was funny clear audience. That's listening three hours to a podcast. I don't I don't know if the if the general buried at the end of the of the best stuff that's going in. Yeah. We'd better have some good moments at the very least I need to pull your laugh to the soundboard there. Okay. All right. So a little bit of a cliffhanger this week. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe you could record the you know, what the answer is by yourself if she expec. All right. We will see we're going to wrap things up next time. It will be rob McEwen. You to podcast episode number thirty, Akiva, what's going on over on the thirty two fans podcast. It was the end brackets season, Chester. And I. You guys had one. Yeah. It was crazy. We finished March by ranking by doing a bracket of our thirty two favorite listeners, and we pick the favorite listener. Okay. It was regret are a winner. I regret picking that person to win. Okay. So is your favorite listener, not the best listener. Yeah. Sorry. The how we choose. I guess is subjective. It's up to each a host, Chester. But yeah, we we narrowed it down it was really activity in the Facebook group. Do we if you listened or not that was a big one? Because if you don't listen it would be hard to make the thirty two. But we weren't sure, you know, is there something wacky about you that we could make fun of because there's people who listen, but they're kind of straightforward. And then it's like, all right. We got nothing to say are they like a little goofy. We know them, you know, that that helped you, okay? You are in the bracket. I was. Listen to this one. Yeah. You were in that one. But you don't listen to the non-football stuff a lot of time. So you didn't if the podcast was every week kiva in Chester fight that I would never miss an episode. Yeah. You one more fighting you one more fine. Yeah. Are like weird couple where we'd go through like they'll be like six weeks in a row where like we're in the podcast, and we're getting divorced. I'm never gonna speak to him again. But then we'll go like a year where? You know, we're like fine. And we're sort of good term. Yeah. It's like right now, we're in we're in where to go. Yeah. It's a lot. Like, we're in a good spot right now probably won't last too much longer. But it's not I guess it's more fun to hear us fight. Okay. All right. We will see what happens next week. If we don't have update in the podcast watch for Twitter for the update on what's happening next time. A true cliffhanger kief. Yeah. We even we don't know the answer. And what if cable says guests, but like she needs ten days time or something like you, and I can talk off line, and we'll figure it out. Okay. Fine. Okay. So you think that if she needs more time, let's not race in with another episode. And then just two weeks we could do the other episode. And then that's fine. That's why we have a contingency. Okay. All right, everybody. Thanks for listening. You guys are the best. Hope you enjoyed our solving murders murders here today. Take care. Bye.

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Rob & Akiva Need a Podcast #85: Escape the Pod

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Rob & Akiva Need a Podcast #85: Escape the Pod

"What. Every week. Ads Right Robin, a Kiva, Nita podcast episode number eighty, five, coming off to one of the most controversial finishes in the history of podcasting last time out as we get ready to uh, scape the pod as selected by you. The listeners one of two podcasts coming up this week in here is the man who's ready for potentially three podcasts in like eight or nine days here with me. The Great Akiba Winokur Akiva how are you? I'm great when we said two in a week. It's like all right we'll