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Fresh update on "airbus" discussed on Cafe con Pam Podcast
"I was going to move. I was invited to any event with. Nielsen. was the man awards actually end I told her I said, you know my intuition keeps telling me that when I moved to Dallas I'm going to be wealthy and it was weird even say that says that. Right. Sure. Well. Let's talk about that because even with that, there's a lot of shame in our community thinking about wealth and and having a lot of money. It's like how dare you want to have a lot of money because those people like all the beliefs that get so like put in our heads around people that have money because we look at the best you know that has all the money in you're like hanging out but I so Mila, you know with all their stuff and so there's this like sense of shame that. We grow up with around being wealthy. So how was it for you? When you kept getting that? Of course you you've done a lot of work that yes. So I did start doing the work towards that a couple of years ago a wall. So two years prior to moving. So it's been a total of three years and it's been very intentional work like I need to heal my money wounds because money was coming in and I would feel guilty about having it or I would find a way to get less of it. If. I was producing an event or opening up space I would charge my break even point how stupid is that I would urge enough to make money yes. Though I was doing that for a long time and it's very Still. Yeah. That's not okay. something. Really. I mean really it's the clearest message of Oh yeah. You don't value yourself. Exactly. It's. It's all about self worth. So share meister with with Airbus before I forget it, I sent a whole newsletter about it because this month and power sisters is. month. So we're all working on our self worth Steph and so for me unconsciously at individ-, worthy of two, hundred, fifty dollar airports because dairy I spent all this money when there's kids that are dying and children in cages and how Meghan spent two hundred fifty dollars in the pair of electronic set Dr Necessary Right. So what I was doing, this is how like annoying or unconscious works to like sabotages right. So I realized that I had like fifty pairs of different kinds of headphones. Word for different things like some were good for phone calls the wired ones were the ones that are good for phone calls. The wireless were only good for like walking my dog and listening to podcasts because if somebody called me, nobody could hear me ahead over..
First direct commercial flight from Israel lands in Bahrain
"Commercial flight between Israel and Bahrain has landed in the island kingdom, just a week after it signed a deal alongside the United Arab Emirates to normalize relations with Israel. Flight data is showing and is rare airlines Airbus A 3 20 landed at by rain International airport after nearly a three hour flight from Tel Aviv. Russian President Vladimir
Fresh update on "airbus" discussed on AviaAware
"It has taken just 12 months for beijing's new taxing airport to process ten million passengers. It comes despite a slump in Airline activity in China earlier this year, but that ten million is just a warm-up act the airport hopes to handle around seventy two million passengers annually by the middle of this decade. The future of Australian Airlines long-haul Fleet is up in the air with speculation surrounding the fate of the existing aircraft and whether the airline will keep flying long-haul at all. The vienna-based airline owned by the left as a group has faced a difficult few years. Now as the group scrambles to cut costs questions are being asked about the future of Australian Airlines long-haul flying Virgin Atlantic is set to take delivery of its next a 350 - 1018 aircraft today September 23rd, G E R and B will fly into Manchester from Tollhouse after completing its test flights over the past few months. This is the second a 350 delivery this month's for the airline taking its total wage. Shakes unfortunately, the current covid-19 crisis has meant that the world-famous Oktoberfest has been canceled out for the first time in over seventy years. However, this did in stock with fans are from celebrating its annual Oktoberfest traditions on a handful of routes worldwide off as Germany's flag carrier with tangible plays a role and varying thousands of tourists and beer lovers to Munich each year from around the world after Munich is Lufthansa second largest behind the German capital of aviation in Frankfurt. However, twenty-twenty has been a little different. Covid-19 pandemic has changed things around the world not least for Airlines such as Lufthansa who have to cope with a considerable drop in demand. The aircraft carrying the vice president of the United States code named Air Force too suffered a bird strike after taking off from a new hams Fear Factor yesterday the Boeing 757 ingested a Berg while climbing out of manchester-boston Regional Airport forcing Mike pants and his staff to a bath the flight the vice president later flew to Washington DC on the military cargo plane the first Direct commercial flight from Israel to train as successfully taking place this Wednesday. And as Ray are all created flight took off from Tel Aviv and flew direct to Manama Bahrain capsule. It represents the first time in history a commercial flight has flown direct between the two Nations. The Flies also notably has through Saudi airspace after both behind a game. Already Arabia opened up airspace access to Azrael earlier and the month German flag carrier. Lufthansa has managed to cut CO2 emissions by working with the German DFS and April and May the airline tested more efficient approach procedures to cut down on unnecessary CO2 emission while the main issue affecting the aviation industry right now is understanding the current endemic the industry hasn't stopped. Its work on becoming cleaner and Greener off earlier this week for both lunch. It's made to build a hydrogen powered aircraft. Meanwhile rival Boeing has completed its latest round of a demonstrator testing. It's not just the manufacturers working to address this as was shown with a partnership between both fans and the DFS. The final Airbus A380 fuselage has been assembled the assembly marks the end of an era as the A380 program draws to a close just after fifteen years after the aircraft's first flight the commission on presidential debates CPD has selected United to.
First direct commercial flight from Israel lands in Bahrain
"Between Israel and Bahrain has landed in the island kingdom, just a week after it signed a deal alongside the United Arab Emirates to normalize relations with Israel. Flight data is showing and is rare airlines Airbus A 3 20 landed at by rain International airport after nearly a three hour flight from Tel Aviv. Russian
Fresh update on "airbus" discussed on Donna and Steve
"On the show tips their killer music and outplayed guard. There. It wass anyway. P Mask Tips and non master Master master her. Hey, I just watched a little bit of that video, by the way. Pretty real good. Real good. You get you hyped up Rough riders anthem You gotta listen to the clean version I might suggest, But man, it was a great like basketball warmup song. If you were playing basketball back then You don't talk about Donna, and then like the team would come out to rough riders Anthem and it was like way do are layups. Yes, that's a that sounds. That's one of the first sentences you said about basketball that sounded normal. I know things like three point shots. Vowel. He's getting rough. I could play horse. Nice. Thank you should come by sometime way could do a little one on one. Oh, yeah. Yeah, We do done contest. Lower the room down to 7 ft. Let it ran. Come on, man, Right. Ted doesn't matter. This is a This is funny about the flights can eat flights. No, no, no, no, It's not all you can do things like this. Like I bought that movie pass things here are all the movies and then it went bankrupt. And then you went to Whitby. And then what? The now bankrupt. Don likes a good deal is what you like. So you Might really, really like this. There is in all you can fly option. Oh, for you, Teo. Just figure out like, Hey, if I wanna fly places I feel good about where we're going. Maybe we could do this. Air Canada. Recently launched their Infinite Canada flight pass. It's a ticket to anywhere any time for $1000 for one flat fee of $2260 per A month. No, wait isn't really per month. It's $2260 per month. No. Okay, hang off. It can be purchased in one state. Sit down. Sit. Sit. Yes. Sit. Sorry. I'm training a puppy. It's $2260 per month. You can purchase them in 12 or three month blocks. And then you could say you know what? I want to go to Singapore today. Boom. You're in Singapore. You know where I'd like to go. I want to go to Sydney. Boom. You go. Sydney. Yeah, I like this. What if they don't have any feet available like they don't have a seat available on the Singapore flight. You're like I want to go to Singapore tomorrow and they're like, sorry we're booked now. Saint print a good time, though, to not have flights booked. I'd like I I bet you'd be able to squeeze on I bet you wouldn't just book it like any other flight and then, like put in a code or something. This is great because you said Steve, you could purchase it in one month or three months so I could just pay. I can just decide I'm going to go to Australia, Singapore, Russia all in one month. And that is so much cheaper and just really plan it out. You have a massive vacation for one month all over the place. I love it. Put her down for a yes, Queen. Are you going to do it? I don't have that kind of money. But if I did well, and you don't live in Canada, you'd have to fly to Canada to get on the flying. My gosh, you can fly Air Canada, not just in Canada. There's one of them s so you're just going. Auto. Toronto, Toronto, Ottawa. Go Alberto this weekend, right? Like United Airlines. Serious Tio, California I flew Alaska Airlines. Oh, yeah. Said a great meal on the way, by the way. You know that about Alaska Airlines to Donna, right? Like it doesn't just go to Alaska. Hey. Do you know that us Airways like when U. S air was over American Airlines operations Okay, got alright. But how will I get tuk Flying America? Know what I was thinking? You know what? I want to fly that Emirates Airlines United Arab Emirates because they've got like a bar lounge. That's where you could meet him. Right? My prince. His only princes flying that their life and Jennifer Aniston. Oh, that'd be great. You know you want the flight is that the one that was in the Gen. Aniston Adam Sandler movie? I'm not sure I remember when they flew, and it was very and there was that bar. I've always wanted to go on a plane with a bar where you can stand up. Yes, I mean years. I want a second floor. One of those to Europe like Airbus. No way. Allie was like a double decker Airbus things mean have either you ever flown on a private jet. Not a jet. No, I've been on a Cessna Meteo. What's assessed? Is that like a twin profit I jump out of Oh, yeah. Little my, my friend Jack. He was a silent No, He's not Jack. No. He's more like jacket, A whacking O whack, Jack. He's like me in the back is actually your name. Yeah, Yeah, of course. He was a radio and we flew over like Theseus Actual liberty in the World Trade Center to share a kiss up there. And you know what? Right, I know his wife. Okay, Mary, Okay. I wasn't mean to be a home wrecker. I thought he was single. Jack. The whack just doesn't sound like he settles down. But that's awesome. That he did still alive. Yes, yes, He.
Airbus shows off striking design of proposed hydrogen-powered plane
"Has announced that they have a goal of flying zero emission planes in just the next 15 years. Their concept involves the main power source being hydrogen radio
Incident: Wings AT72 at Ambon on Jul 3rd 2020, Failure of All Instruments
"A. Wings Eighteen, seventy, two or eighteen, seventy, two dash. Two, one to. At Ambon, which is in Indonesia was flying from Ambon to Babbo with forty nine passengers and three crew D my Indonesia accent. Yeah. I think you make an APP. I am was in the initial climb out of Ambon Putnam, Laura Airport's runway to just when just after becoming airborne all display units, standby instruments, communication and multifunction control display unit failed. All of it. The landing gear lever not good. No landing gear lever could not be retracted. Climbing through about two thousand feet the display units one and three partially recovered showing speed and altitude indications again, and about three thousand feet communication and remaining displaying its intermittently recovered and the landing gear retracted. They put their landing gear lever up and then finally goes. Okay. Yeah. Sure. You're up. You sure. It wasn't doing a Microsoft update or something might have been. So. I'm thinking. If this were instrument meteorological conditions. I believe we will be reading about the accident and terrible tragic crash of this flight however could easily be yeah without any insurance when you're going to do not ways up, right. Thankfully the weather was not quite as bad. I mean it wasn't perfect, but it wasn't IMC apparently. and they were able to maintain. Reference to the. Queues outside to keep the airplane flying straight and level and climbing all stuff aircraft stop the climate four thousand feet position for return to runway for about thirty minutes after departure but went around and enter to hold at seven thousand feet. The aircraft subsequently landed back on runway four, one hour fifty minutes past. Departure. In Asia Cayenne KT which I guess is there investigatory agency rated the occurrence a serious incident? Yeah. Open an investigation. There were no injuries and the aircraft sustained minor damage doesn't really say. How I can recall. Let's see. Then they go into a little bit more detailed by the way this is from the aviation. Excuse me. Aviation Herald. Let's see the weather during the situation was raining and the ground visibility was six kilometers. So you know wasn't. Great with not great. Let's see the. Starting process of the engines was normal when the aircraft taxied in lined up for runway to to. The aircraft took off and after airborne, the pilot verified the idol gate lever engaged I don't know what that is something to do with props. I guess suddenly all five display units and the integrated electronic standby instrument i. e s I went blank and the VHF radios burr off. the pilot glance to the overhead panel several lights eliminated. Consisting of the shed light on the D. C. Service utility busts, the available light on the external power push buttons. That problem they. Hit a great big generated. Along. With the we're just getting of course Pack lavatory detection engine boost. Hey we have a lavatory, we detected there. during the Situa- we just talked about that the pilot did not have flight instruments as reference for flight therefore, the pilot flew visually. about one minute. So everything came back and let's see why is it that they ended up holding for a while they run some checklist or something that the deal oh, I think he was waiting for the weather to improve. A bit before they came in for their landing. Yeah. Sensible. Relying, his attitude indicators. And other instruments. Yeah. Urinate Visual Reference Yeah. That was smart. So you know you'd think that was this the airplane that was kind of Pretty new or was that another one lows? Let's see Oh. August fourth twenty seventeen. Yeah. So it's Relatively, new airplane Not, sure. Exactly. What happened there some kind of electrical. Weirdness apparently yeah. I mean a supply problem but the thing that really concerns me as if you get a supply problem to you main instrument panels. Avis or whatever type of aircraft urine you would expect perhaps to lose some. But the one thing that should you should always bail rely on is you standby instruments they should be from a completely separate power sauce. Often. Just connected almost directly to the battery so that regardless of what else you've lost, you've got something to go on to help fly the airplane. the fact that he lost his signed by insurance as well. makes me seriously concerned about the architecture, the electrical system of of this aircraft. If, they find a full of manages to take out. So many buzzes by all buses that they also lose their same standby instruments that for me is a major concern. Yeah. I'm wondering if if that was something about the way, the electrical system was designed and manufactured or maybe. There was some kind of maintenance done to the airplane and they didn't connect all the bits and bobs correctly. I don't know I saw. The aircraft should be so capable on the ground before they get on something incorrect deep rooted of self diagnosing electrical problem If they wouldn't have got to have on, they had known that they had a major potential right room with their instruments. Sure. So this is just It happens. On a bus of had some problems in the pasta with unexpected glitches which have taken out all the display units but never have I heard of an Airbus having a problem with standby simultaneously that that is just nine national that is not supposed to happen. Ever. But did apparently in this case, and thankfully, the weather was good enough for them to maintain control their come. We had some pundits who had enough skill to bail to continue to fly the airplane the even relatively poor visibility with. Right around which meant horizon, the visual horizon would have been indistinct. They managed to interpret what was happening to the aircraft in their Themselves and not get fooled and not getting a situation where they lost control. So fantastic
Boeing 737 EASA Testing
"Talk first about the seventy seven Max. So Yassa has been testing it. How's it? Been, going. Seven thirty seven fight testing concluded up in Vancouver British. Columbia just recently with look like there's multiple. Certification authorities participating in that Yasser. Obviously Transport Canada would have been there and it sounds like the Brazilians there too. So there is A lot of balls on the seven, thirty, seven, the the flight task. would be a low risk thing at this point. So there's been at least listened to the news reports has been no unexpected outcome of that. Boeing would have been flying at any way in and check in to make sure that the angle of attack sensors and all the. all the sort of the flight management difficulties that they had. What would have been taken care of. So it's it's a check in the box but also to to. have. Some external is watching what happens in the cockpit and see how pilots respond to stuff so. That's a good checkpoint to have done. The next step though is probably the most important and. I always get frustrated when I see this when I think it was in the US representative said while we're going to make sure that it's safe well. The FAA is the Prime Certification Authority. It'd be like F- Airbus certifying a new Airbus, a three whatever. That, he also be the lead on it, and the FAA would just be sort of verification mode, not a recertification mode. So when we see things in the press that sound like Yasa's taking a recertification mode that they're gonNA, take the FA data as a something nice to have but. They're GONNA do their own little certification approval in a sense that's frustrating. That's really frustrating because then it's just left up to opinion. There are rules the rules between the United States in all the other certification authorities in the world are pretty closely aligned. I doubt there was any differences between Yasser. And the FAA in these particular areas. So what's the holdup once the FAA has signed it off and blessed it and also can do the review of it like they should rightly. So but now now aren't some sort of negotiation face. So they're going to be meeting at Gatwick Airport in London Boeing, Jasa Transport Canada's sound like the pretty much anybody WANNA show up to to the party. And talk about things like pilot training issues. What is involved with that Any sort of flight manual adjustments that are proposed would be discussed in there and hammer out those details and I would assume the FAA's going to be there also. You're you like to be a fly on the wall and that place because this is probably a little bit allowed talking will happen and we're in an election year, the United States, of course, which adds to level infant Sensiti to what's happening I Dan I just really struggle with some of these things. It isn't like the FAA made a horrendous mistake. I. Think there's just a lot of complexity to what had happened originally and he also didn't catch it either In their view and they had a chance to review to and I think it just the complexity caught up everybody because systems were cutting more and more complex particularly as we add them onto older generation aircraft, and now we're in this sort of. I don't trust you Scenario which is doesn't good. Bill doesn't build good bilateral relationships and the FAA has been trying to do that for the last several years and this is not good for industry and hopefully they FAA doesn't do it to Airbus. Is that we don't hold it up because we can we're holding up because there's some real risk. And None, of the accident happened in in European. Plight territory so We'll see I don't you don't you get the feeling like some lessons political at this point. Yet feels a little strange like they're not necessarily working together and that they're trying to go their own way. It's yeah it's it seems strange.
Reviewing the August Traffic Stats - It’s Not Great
"That puts us a roughly a week past the end of August weird things we found. Our. Stopped getting better. As the. Is. Is the way to put it. So you know from the low on the twelfth of April we've seen a rise in traffic levels and we ended the month of August. Forty, five percent. Of Twenty nine hundred. August twenty nineteen. As far as commercial traffic levels were concerned. So. Not Great. Know things things flattened out We've talked about keeping an eye on things hoping that the summer would lead to a bit stronger recovery and then pushed through into fall. We haven't seen the traffic in at the beginning of the fall schedule materialize, and so there's a good chance that week over week, we could see traffic fall throughout the rest of the year outside of spikes for for certain holiday period if people decide that they're going to be traveling again but we don't know what that's. GonNa. Look like as as the as the season develops but August you know. Flattened out and not in a great way, and then the holiday weekend we just had here the states is past weekend traffic almost eclipsed a million passengers screened in the US for the first time since. March sixteenth were dropped off quoits amazingly beyond that. It went from one point two million. Passengers screened on March sixteenth to just basically a quarter of a million. A week later. So getting up to a million would have been at least some semblance of what we use folic victory person bollock victory. We are not there yet. We have here in New York. We have twice as many people riding the subway. Than we have the TSA screening passengers nationwide. Now yesterday the Tuesday after the holiday weekend that were seven, hundred, four, thousand passengers screened, which is just about right back where we were before the holiday weekend. So this is typically rather. Low part of the year between the end of the summer and really Thanksgiving here in the US than the the holidays toward the end of the year for the entire world. So this is GonNa be. Great the next few months, and we're already seeing if you wear pare back their schedule quite dramatically to match that new reality that the the comeback is not happening. Yeah the the return of. Travel, besides leisure travel. So so business travel. And folks moving around outside of taking. A vacation visiting their their friends and relatives. That's not materialized. Travel is still nil and so. What we're going to see over the next few months I think is going to reflect that especially us. Europe a little different. Asia quite different as things there have have gotten much better much faster. But I I think we're still globally nowhere near two thousand and nineteen levels and won't be for some time. The other things being affected are aircraft deliveries. We got those numbers this week as well and and looking at Airbus Boeing numbers Airbus thirty nine deliveries one order which was Jason. Ordering his new. Ac a three twenty neo. Price finally come down enough where I can get my own pint. Yeah and then bowing delivering thirteen aircraft but taking eight orders. That's interesting. who were the eight I hadn't heard that they picked up five, seven, three, seven Max orders and they picked up three triple seven F orders l. were those the Polish airline ordering the matches that we talked about last time in addition to so there was the yes enter air, and then there was one other I think there was an airline that order one of them and and which airline was, but we may have talked about that in a previous episode plus the three triple seven f orders but moving up but still not I mean I was actually did putting things together for the show I. Put in you know Boeing August deliveries, and a Reuters article from last year came up and they are talking about how how orders deliveries were down forty percent. Already. And I was like Oh. That doesn't seem terrible and then I looked at the date and it was September. Twenty nineteen it finally they knew. Yeah. So not not great still not great. But we are there are some glimmers of hope just now a few minutes ago adult seven, six, seven, four, hundred that had been stranded in not one joe. China after it had interior modifications done Kinda got stuck there just took off back heading. East after two hundred and four days of sitting on the ground there looking derelict. So that's about that. That's nice. I'll take what I can get
Are Commercial Aircraft Production Plans Still Too High?
"There's a lot of talk these days about when the commercial aircraft industry will recover from the COVID nineteen crisis and return to normal and normal is almost universally defined as the your twenty nineteen. But, what if Airbus and Boeing were already at peak production and twenty nineteen with little room for growth over the coming decade? Scary. As that thought may be a look at the numbers suggests it's possible and that in turn raises questions about whether the two airframes have reduced production enough to whether the OVID. Nineteen. Storm. Joining me from Frankfurt to make sense of all this is Jens to aviation weeks executive editor for Commercial Aviation and here with me in Washington is Michael. Bruno Aviation Week, senior business editor who closely watching production rates and the aviation supply chain. Jens. Let's start with you. You wrote column in the August thirty first edition of Aviation Week and space technology that I don't think Airbus or Boeing are going to be too happy about would you say? Probably not well, what I did is I looked at a Abbas global market forecast, which is the forecast for the next twenty years, and by the way, the Boeing fingers are pretty similar. So but for practical purposes, let's just stick with the the Abbas version. and. Looked at production racing compared to to figures. So the to the. Market forecast Abbas puts out is for thirty nine, thousand Costa over the next twenty years. Divide that by twenty, you come up with an average annual production. Off Nine, thousand, nine, hundred, and seventeen aircraft to seventy aircraft to be precise. That's across the entire industry. So that's Abbas Boeing all the other manufacturers. Now I compared this with the. Actual production. Rates. For Two thousand, nine, nineteen, and the plans. For a front nineteen on the buying side because remember Max wasn't delivered. So there's a big difference between what they planted what they actually did. So the plans for Amazon Boeing were. Already over eighteen hundred at Croft. For Twenty nineteen so they were very very close to the. Longtime over two decades. Average rate that Abbas claims is the size of the overall mark. In this case, we ignore all the others there's going to be aircraft delivered by Komax, there's going to be. Did it by a C. by Embraer who knows maybe someone someone else will come in that we don't know yet on the electric hybrid hybrid electric front, maybe some some new comer there's also. No more room for for growth by both Abbas and and. If you remember. Absent. TIKOLO was pushing it suppliers very, very hot higher. They were talking about rights beyond seventy not an I wasn't in any twenty thirties seventy aircraft for Mancha I should say and I wasn't an in the twenty thirties that was in the next few years. So my point is. They were already producing too many aircraft before covert. Based on their own assessment of the market. And now with covert, of course, it's a whole different story. and. My conclusion is that. They haven't made deep enough cuts so far and more will follow. You and you're right when we started twenty nineteen everyone was talking about how fast can the supply chain ramp up How quickly can Airbus and Boeing increase production? I? Guess what you're saying is everybody was wrong. Yeah everything the the the industry went too far. In its. Appetite for growth and its vision for you. Look back we were coming out of the industry was coming out of the global financial crisis in eight eight or nine, which was a big crisis at that standards back. Then by the Senate's back then and then we have had this decade of unprecedented growth. We were industry got used to growth rates, well in excess of global GDP, of course, that's used that. Twice of global GDP, I should say. which is typically the level of growth that's aviation has seen over the past decades. Looking back is clear to me that. This could not be sustained for that much longer. Now the crisis we were seeing now is you know probably more dramatic than anyone could have expected but. On the other hand. That's gross could not have continued. At the same pace was clear.
Tough Sales Month for Boeing
"Start first with Boeing and how many jets they've delivered. So in in July to those eighteen, and this is an article from barons, the liver thirty nine jets this past. July, they delivered four so. What do you think about these numbers? Obviously, this isn't surprising. Anyone given how insane this year's been again, my prediction still we still a four months to go to see if the crack in comes out of the deep sea. Just a cap off this crazy year but. What is your sentiment about four planes being delivered? Well, the the the issue really for Boeing seven, thirty-seven, Max and. Because of Kobe there's not a lot of international flights going on. So you're bigger triple seven's. Are. Just not going to be in a big production since an in terms of demand is just not going to be there. So the smaller seven three seventy are going to be a workhorse internally to the US also in Europe and Asia and all over the place, and since it can't deliver them, doesn't doesn't help their bottom line so they got to get the aircraft certified and. It looks like it's coming closer and closer Leeson the US but it says here that return outside the US has maybe been slowed. So what's that about? In in terms of just outside sales at the US. Well, it looks like the European Union Aviation Safety Agency is still waiting for more clarity going yeah. IGGY UPDATE I. Don't know if that's A. A policy position that they're having disputes about or an interpretation about. This particular rules that are maybe slightly different in the Ossa and and other parts of the world versus the United States. But it does seem like there's always a little bit of dragging When the Europeans Airbus certifies an airplane FA can drag its feet. It seems like it doesn't seem like either is trying to help the other country or region So I, don't know if it's politics or real engineering concern when you get to these levels of international disputes and the seven thirty seven is reached clearly international dispute territory sometimes, the engineers don't get to play so much as much as the politicians get to step into it. Could be both yeah. Well, that was yeah. Well, that was a good point by you that you're right like domestic air travel is going to be the first thing to come back and it's going to be really busy at some point. And you're right. Boeing has the plane. They have the perfect plane for that they they discontinued to have problems like they've gotten man solution, but it's just not there. So hopefully, right the the seven thirty, seven, Max gets. Gets into the hands of these companies that want to fly it in a radio put. It's a good work and get people back around the country and I thought the Airbus A to twenty was gonNA pick up on some sales and delivery just because they are not necessarily a one to one compared to the seven, three seven but they are sort of that regional jet new modern. Out Cockpit, design cabin efficiency has all the checks all the boxes they to twenty does and it. It has seen some improve sales is no doubt about that but they're not gonNA rival the seven thirty seven anytime soon. So people are still waiting for the seven thirty seven or they're not taking airplanes one of the
Sports Talk with Junior
"All right. Here we go. Junior is here with what sports docked yeah. Oh. Oh, got it. Today Listen Mike Tyson and Roy Jones Junior. The fight has been pushed back to November. Twenty eight was September twelfth. They're gonNA. Move it back to November twenty eight. Now, we never did get honest we got who we're. GonNa pay for this. You know you won't initial. Yeah, they had the movie back because somebody didn't look shape. And it wasn't Mike Tyson. Since Yeah, we love Roy Jones junior to love and show yeah yeah. See, Roy on stand. Tyson. Trained in two. Give Him Oh time. Him So motown. Forgot. Eighth. That's my holiday. Yes. How old is Roy Anybody? Four. Oh, it's no want. Majors Mike. Yeah Mike. Fifty four, a Mike and Fifty, four, fifty, one. Got? All. Mad. All. The reason why we got all our money, all Michael Airbus seeing know what this is about. Well, see both of them. All right. It's not going to be what you think it is and going to be this great fight. 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA see a Lotta of punches. A Lot. Of course, the timing is gone in a quick quick twitch muscles don't file like they used to. But the problem that Roy has is if Tyson do hit him. His ass is going to. Asleep. He Hits Him. He's going to. That's a special place. That's way you sleep a union. No you going. Love a man I'm going to bed. Then I'M GONNA. Go Sleep. Now you fit in a subsidy. Very closely, right for you go to sleep that what you said. Our sleep well. But, also, you know the new president trump called NBA players very dumb, very nasty for kneeling during the. National. Anthem. Wild. Two words and that is there any other word man? VOCAB? Luke. This is a guy who says he went to the high school in. The. Nation. Yeah and but his niece has said no, no, they got him in this. He's not. He's. Look their neely period. You're not changing the narrative this time. Because those black guys to play in the NBA? No, they wouldn't tall and he had a uniform then targets on. Right Bank. That's exactly why they not playing. Junior coming up at the top of the hour. Tell me something good. Some good news for.
"airbus" Discussed on STRUCK: A Lightning Protection Podcast
"Airbus <hes> they sell flying plane just completed successful to act a taxi takeoff and landing. . So this is not a small plane either this was the eighth HR fifty one thousand X. . WB. . And <hes> obviously. . full-scale like commercial, Wayne , which is pretty cool. . So is this getting close to market is something that's in our near future autonomous or we still a ways away why I kind of wonder if this is driven by all the can I, , fly the plane like just GonNa be pilot to push the button no. . Undefined that will not happen for a long time but I, , it's a large airplane, , the three fifty, , a bigger playing the dash one thousand is is a very long aircraft. . I think. . Airbus's flexing their muscle a little bit and I think Boeing would have done it already to if they could have they got other problems right now they're trying to deal with. . The ability to. . Fly An aircraft autonomously of that size, , and particularly taxi taxis the place where a lot more difficulties <hes> it is not easy. . So. . You have to have a very, very , talented engineering staff to even get close to do something like that and great software engineers and with all the ev to. . Electric vertical-takeoff-landing <hes> aircraft talking by being autonomous and Honeywell and some others and Garm, , and doing a lot of things that are nearly autonomous. . I'm not surprised they Airbus's stepped up and say, , okay, , watch this. . No way no way they went to show that yeah. . Airbus isn't playing either they if they wanted to do it, they , could do it but on the other side. . Airbus has watched some of the problems that Boeing and Airbus as had with politics make mistakes in the air and I know Boeing this past week talked about the CEO was talking about. . How the aircraft is, , GonNa. . Be More autonomous in that. . They were GonNa let pilots make <hes> as many. . <hes> critical decisions whether they could get their craft in trouble and Airbus has been down that path. . His was done that long ago. . So I'm not surprised that Airbuses doing it. . How how would they would ever? ? I don't think wherever to the point in the next ten years. . I don't see there's going to be autonomous aircraft in a commercial sense <hes> either cargo or <hes> commercial flight. . But if it does release some of the burden on the pilots and make the airplane fly cleaner and smoother on all that I would expect a lot of those pieces of information that to Airbus has developed on this project will be integrated into the aircraft over time will be well, , how does this affect pilots in the long term? ? So say you know ten years from now pilots don't have to take off they don't have to land. . And they don't have to do that much. . Do they become quickly out of practice like actually having to do these things to say the system is like not working one day and they have to land it and haven't landed a plane in a hundred flights I mean is this Nina I mean like if you don't Cook dinner every night, , you get rusty at at whipping up of really nice meal. . You know what I mean yes I think that's totally true I it's just a nature. . Outcome that it's inevitable <hes> the the other side of that is. . Companies like Airbus and Boeing. . Aircraft Company have the ability to create simulators and put pilots in simulators into them. . Quote fly the airplane. . <hes> because the the one thing you don't want to burn a bunch of fuel getting a pilot up to speed if you don't have to <hes>. . And if there's any complacency. . The regulatory bodies like Yasa and the FAA will be all over it. . And the the first people usually complain about not getting enough lifetime other pilots quite honestly they wanna be as. . As. . Ever that's that's the big push by all the pilots. . Unions is proficiency proficiency proficiency and proficiency means seat time actually flying the airplane in fact <hes>. . I remember flying on southwest. . A couple of times this that's been tennis years ago maybe a little bit longer. . Remember flying I remember the aircraft being hand flown. . For landing I thought boy that is so it's been a longest time that I've been on an aircraft been hand flown because he just put the out how do you put on the flight path and it just flies it but the south I ask southwest pilot while was leaving the airplane you flew that you flew that by hand all the way down he goes. . Yeah. . It's it's he said it's good for US pilots to fly the aircraft. . It just gives us more proficiency. . So I don't see this is taking over. . Time. . But I do think there are when having redundant systems or helpful systems on aircraft and pilots out of trouble. .
Airbus Makes Autonomous Takeoff & Landing
"Airbus they sell flying plane just completed successful to act a taxi takeoff and landing. So this is not a small plane either this was the eighth HR fifty one thousand X. WB. And obviously. full-scale like commercial, Wayne which is pretty cool. So is this getting close to market is something that's in our near future autonomous or we still a ways away why I kind of wonder if this is driven by all the can I, fly the plane like just GonNa be pilot to push the button no. Undefined that will not happen for a long time but I, it's a large airplane, the three fifty, a bigger playing the dash one thousand is is a very long aircraft. I think. Airbus's flexing their muscle a little bit and I think Boeing would have done it already to if they could have they got other problems right now they're trying to deal with. The ability to. Fly An aircraft autonomously of that size, and particularly taxi taxis the place where a lot more difficulties it is not easy. So. You have to have a very, very talented engineering staff to even get close to do something like that and great software engineers and with all the ev to. Electric vertical-takeoff-landing aircraft talking by being autonomous and Honeywell and some others and Garm, and doing a lot of things that are nearly autonomous. I'm not surprised they Airbus's stepped up and say, okay, watch this. No way no way they went to show that yeah. Airbus isn't playing either they if they wanted to do it, they could do it but on the other side. Airbus has watched some of the problems that Boeing and Airbus as had with politics make mistakes in the air and I know Boeing this past week talked about the CEO was talking about. How the aircraft is, GonNa. Be More autonomous in that. They were GonNa let pilots make as many. critical decisions whether they could get their craft in trouble and Airbus has been down that path. His was done that long ago. So I'm not surprised that Airbuses doing it. How how would they would ever? I don't think wherever to the point in the next ten years. I don't see there's going to be autonomous aircraft in a commercial sense either cargo or commercial flight. But if it does release some of the burden on the pilots and make the airplane fly cleaner and smoother on all that I would expect a lot of those pieces of information that to Airbus has developed on this project will be integrated into the aircraft over time will be well, how does this affect pilots in the long term? So say you know ten years from now pilots don't have to take off they don't have to land. And they don't have to do that much. Do they become quickly out of practice like actually having to do these things to say the system is like not working one day and they have to land it and haven't landed a plane in a hundred flights I mean is this Nina I mean like if you don't Cook dinner every night, you get rusty at at whipping up of really nice meal. You know what I mean yes I think that's totally true I it's just a nature. Outcome that it's inevitable the the other side of that is. Companies like Airbus and Boeing. Aircraft Company have the ability to create simulators and put pilots in simulators into them. Quote fly the airplane. because the the one thing you don't want to burn a bunch of fuel getting a pilot up to speed if you don't have to And if there's any complacency. The regulatory bodies like Yasa and the FAA will be all over it. And the the first people usually complain about not getting enough lifetime other pilots quite honestly they wanna be as. As. Ever that's that's the big push by all the pilots. Unions is proficiency proficiency proficiency and proficiency means seat time actually flying the airplane in fact I remember flying on southwest. A couple of times this that's been tennis years ago maybe a little bit longer. Remember flying I remember the aircraft being hand flown. For landing I thought boy that is so it's been a longest time that I've been on an aircraft been hand flown because he just put the out how do you put on the flight path and it just flies it but the south I ask southwest pilot while was leaving the airplane you flew that you flew that by hand all the way down he goes. Yeah. It's it's he said it's good for US pilots to fly the aircraft. It just gives us more proficiency. So I don't see this is taking over. Time. But I do think there are when having redundant systems or helpful systems on aircraft and pilots out of trouble.
Accenture’s aerospace team reveals strategies for aerospace CEOs looking to the future
"What is the state of aerospace and defense today, and what's your outlook for twenty twenty one and has that changed at all in the in the recent past Recent past go back into a January February odd things have changed dramatically. If you say recent past in terms of how feeling today for. So spilling back in in. June. Not Not nearly as much. I think know by sum it up I think I look at the industry and so almost tell two cities. If you remember that Dickens novel where on the commercial side, we have all kinds of things going on and you know the impact of airlines and the reduction in capacity, and now reduced number of aircraft being taken and all that kind of stuff going on dampening down you know the business and Yoga Cyber Defence and defence. Largely continuing to perform you know well There are some some issues. There are some blips in supply chain certainly related to things like covid. But it's really is tell to city and we look at Boeing and Airbus both announcing production rates and rate cuts, and of course, we have the existing 737 challenge facing history as well. No I think there's a different side of the coin when we start looking at what's happening on the defense side. And what is that different side of the coin much more positive right? Well, it's much more positive and you know this morning are. Reported there the results in in even just in our she concede example of the Tele two cities playing out. Right now and you know. I think. What I'd like to say is that looking at what's what we're hearing and if we were going to go into farmer air, show the share, which, of course, unfortunately, we did not every year accenture steps back and looks at kind of what we're seeing across the numerous research elements that we have our tech vision, our commercial index and supply chain research, and we look at the work we're doing for clients we look at what we're talking to our. Clients about in terms of where their priorities are. We look at what's going on in industry at large, and from that, we try to distill out what we think are really going to be the you know quote unquote stories to watch and weird do that this year Joe I think there's four things that I think would come out in their four things that I hear consistently I think pat would echo this well when we talked to sea level executives Across our clients defense and commercial, those four things are related to cash management number one number two supply chains smart manufacturing number three workforce in workforce impact in a before's is really rounding technology in systems in resiliency of those systems. into look thinking about where we are today in covert and and what companies need be thinking about as they look forward, their calendar twenty-one. Those four things are really top of mind. Pat, what's what are your thoughts had? We gone to Farnborough what were you prepared to be talking about I? Think the themes that John mentioned are spot on one concept that intertwined through cash management supply chain workforce and systems resiliency is really a need to continue the digital transformation the the level of of change that aerospace and defense companies are dealing with today is is really unprecedented and I think it's changed Focus of of trying to accelerate the agility of decision-making workforces is been fascinating topic. How has a house the debate on that changed in this? I mean, we had a lot of ish. A lot of the talk was about workforce shortages and now companies are laying off tens of thousands of people said, Short Term Blip, John, I mean what are you telling companies to do to be prepared for the workforce of the future? You know. It's interesting. If you think back a couple years, we're worried about the grace. ooh Nami and everybody retiring he let me go back back to January timeframe worried about shortages whether it's pilots are or people in the maintenance shops in of course, we see companies laying off and furloughing on the commercial side, but we also see companies on the defense side hiring, right? So I think Lockheed announced five thousand new hires northbound eight thousand new. Hires right. So it's almost again that tell see what's happening but I think you know the three things that were talking to clients lot about now in this code world where we have more people remark in remotely than we ever did before Amsterdam you have more you're gonNA WANNA add onto this but it's really about you know the people experience how how each individual worker is being interacted with with their company and that comes down to. How they were who they work with and how they get their work done. The second thing is around or Culture. The culture particularly, I think in our industry and maybe I'm biased because I'm in this of this industry but you know you walk into the building and you see the sign, you see the flag, you walk through the hallways almost any aerospace defense office or even in factory assembly floor, and you see the product you see pictures of the product you see people, pictures of people using the products I mean that helps build culture. Now, I, see the four walls of my Home Office or maybe it's my kitchen table or wherever I happen to be working remotely. It's it's a big topic these days how you manage in we'd and maintain culture in the third is really about the work itself and how the workforce works at work in Delhi deals with things like remote collectively high-performance compute environments. Can I get to those from homes cure environment
Airbus plane deliveries halved as airlines scrounge for cash
"Plane maker Airbus salts deliveries have during the 1st 6 months of the years, travel collapsed and airlines scrounge for cash. Company says it's deliveries fell almost 50% to 196 with revenue sliding almost 40% Airbus ads that it is further scaling back production of its a 3 50 long haul jet. From six a month. The five after trimming from nine a month in April.
Boeing: Critical 737 Max test flights begin
"We talk about the Boeing 7 37 Max. We're all well aware of the two fatal crashes in close proximity to each other in terms of timing. We know the plane's been grounded. And You know, despite heavy lobbying by Boeing and the airlines at one point, that plane is still grounded. And it will probably fly again. But it called into question so many things that go back into a culture of behavior with the FBI on the FBI. The FAA should be the F B I. In fact, the FBI is investigating. Excuse me. The FBI is investigating the FAA and the manufacturer on this Because of their close relationship. I mean, how can the regulator Regulated airline or a manufacturer. When They're actually being told by the airline of the manufacturer. What's right or wrong doesn't make any sense. And in this situation we have a situation where The plane. I think you'd agree with this Greg. The plane on its own is not an unsafe airplane, the plane on its own. It's you know, it's just another iteration of an existing future lives that goes back to 1969 actually earlier than that. Earlier that year earlier than that, But the real problem here is how do you certify and airplane And what process do you go through to put two basically. Ensure that there's transparency and that people can tell the truth. Correct. Correct, But you know there are a couple things here. One certifying an airplane is a very complex process. And it has gotten more complex as new generation airplanes come out, especially with all the new avionics and all the Elektronik that control airplanes today. You know, back when they were building D. C three's When you pull it pushed and pulled the yolk. You were moving a cable that moved the elevator. You know, you pushed on the rudder pedals, you'd move a cable. Now it's all computer controlled hydraulically boosted So you're just giving an input in ones and zeros to a computer. The computer that makes things happen, and it becomes a very complex process. The other thing is, is that Congress Gave the FAA the authority because the FAA didn't have the resource supposed both monetary and manpower to go to a delegated system that is You hire qualified experts who are working on behalf of the FAA. They go into the manufacturer. They are your designated representatives. They are technically an FAA representative, but they're being paid by the manufacturer. Now that's a that's A. That's a big whoops. That's a big whoops. Well, they always thought that that was a conflict of interest. But anything that a D, e, R or a D A. R that the designated engineering representative for Airworthiness representative does in the factory. It still has to be approved by The F A. A. The small aircraft director of the larger craft director Door or Washington, D. C. It's not self certifying, and that really was a confusing discussion for the last year and half. Going isn't self certified. They are doing what they need to do to meet the regulatory requirement. It was the cozy relationship is it was, um, um, characterized. That developed because there was a lot of not a lot of, you know, over the shoulder looking that disappeared over the years, But every But every manufacturer Airbus Embraer Bomb party They all used the same designated engineering process. Why? Because the United States government, the French government, the Canadian government does not have the manpower or the expertise. And is on one of the public hearing the congressional hearing. If Boeing were to be the manufacturer, and the FAA wanted to put people in that manufacturing facility that were actual FAA employees, they'd have to hire 10,000 experts and they'd have to increase their budget by a $1,000,000,000. That's taxpayer dollars. Exactly, But But you know what? When you think about it, the first lawsuit sometimes and a $1,000,000,000 after the fact. Look,
Airbus Looks to End Trade Dispute With U.S. by Forgoing Some Government Support
"With the US over financial support agreements it has with European governments. The Wall Street Journal says it's agreeing to change its deals with Spain and France. Airbus says it believes the changes will put it in compliance with World Trade Organization guidelines and could lead to Removing US tariffs Ebony magazine's creditors air
Airbus Plans to Cut 15,000 Jobs, Citing Impact of Coronavirus
"Let us begin with news of a huge number of jobs going Airbus. Yeah that's right behind morning to you. This is the latest illustration of really severe turbulence. indie aviation sector obviously brought about by the downturn in demand for air travel with the corona virus, so Airbus is planning to slash fifteen thousand jobs that accounts for at ten percent of its current workforce management, telling staff describing to staff that this is the gravest crisis. The industry has ever experienced that there's been a forty percent full in commercial aircraft business activity. He's job. Losses are going to affect at plants in France, Germany, Spain, and Britain already though there's opposition coming from Paris the. The French government, asking why Airbus can't use state support measures, but the European planemaker has been ominously warning, it does not expect air travel to return to pre virus levels a best until twenty twenty three, but warning that it could actually take until twenty twenty-five until we get back to where we were last year. Tell us a little bit more. Airbus was six months ago. is in an astonishingly strong position given the fact that it's rival was having awful problems with the 737 Max aircraft, and as a result, Airbus couldn't make enough of a three to eight hundred twenty family. Yes that's right I. mean the poor fortunes of its big American rival Boeing bent that certainly in the short holes as sector, it's single-aisle aircraft were the the the main show in town while anyone who placed orders for the seven three seven months for left, waiting for it to be given safety approval that said both playmakers have been looking in the rear view mirror at the march of a Chinese rival which is certainly starting to gobble up. More market share. And of course, everybody's already dealing with the fact that it's a big claim to fame. These Super Jumbo, a three eighty, as now been, were really left in in in the shadow of short-haul planes, because it's really although came to almost embodied the planemakers, ambitions is concerned. We very inefficient by the airlines who've been using it.
Will My Supply Chain Survive COVID-19?
"The commercial aerospace supply chain is writing. The sudden collapse, the spring passenger air travel after the outbreak of the latest novel Corona Virus and it's cove in Nineteen, disease has upended fortunes in the airliner manufacturing industry. That matters because commercial aerospace is responsible for about three quarters of the whole aerospace and defense sectors business activity. Cash is king right now throughout the supply chain and companies are struggling to have enough liquidity, according to what several advisors and analysts tell aviation week. while. Liquidity is more of a function of the wider economic downturn inside aerospace. There are even bigger challenges. Where production rates were once being pushed higher now a Williams are slashing them cascading pressure down the supply chain. At the L. A. M. in the top tier level. It has probably never been more important to have insight into your supply chain. Joining me to talk about that need, and what to do about it are John Schmidt? The Global Andy Lead at Accenture and Joyce Klein. Accenture leader in applied intelligence in the North American amd practice John Joyce. Welcome back. Thanks might go good to be back so John let me start with you. It seems obvious that OEM's and tier ones want insight into their suppliers. But while that was always true, I used to be about making sure that there were no bottlenecks that slowed or stop record high production now things chain what of new conditions that demand and customers pay better attention to their supply chain. Might go and in many ways the aerospace industry you know has a clear split between the companies that are working in the Corso world, and does indefens- you in the commercial. As you say, you know the concern used to be, we have a supply constrained world with very predictable demand, right always pushing for more trying take need those increased rates pushed by Boeing and. and Airbus and in the current world that's changed dramatically to being more of a supply volatile with unpredictable demand in the defense and space side of things you know things have largely remained in a predictable demand with an increased supply chain volatility, so by just keep looking at those things, predictability and the the constraint or volatility the spy chain. That's where the primary differences. And Commercial. We know that demand is going to be directly related to the bounce back of commercial air travel and the relative rates airlines choose to bring back stored aircraft versus take more efficient models on order from the OEM's causing more volatility in and demand, variability and defense. It's a bit different again. Demand Israel remained and the supply chains been impacted by Kobe in some cases they're tier one two or three companies, who source both commercial and defense or trying to generate cash to cover expenses and other cases, local Cobra outbreaks, and our common actions are impacting the spires ability to deliver on schedule, known both cases, aerospace and defense companies need. To deal with all totally like never before whether commercial or defense. So Joyce. Last time John and I talked here on Chuck six with. He kind of gave me the peak and do some new technology you all were working on. It's a new capability to peer into the supply chain including using an algorithm approach that allows more predictive insight, potentially even the ability to hotspot. What factories might be in trouble in the future? Can you tell us a little bit about what accenture is working on? And how does this work? Yes, absolutely Michael Accenture? We've been working with our clients in the supply chain area for many years using analytics and machine learning. In fact, if you go back to last year's pariser show in our accenture shall a. we had a digital showcase. Demo that focused on intelligence supply chain, and what this demo is a together machine, learning and artificial intelligence, and we used I at supply chain Europe e data to really understand delivery delays identify missing parts. We also looked at the opportunity for Automation Muller. Doing now is we're bringing together? All Lot of data sets and we're using artificial intelligence to help companies deal with the increase in volatility manage. Manage uncertainty and really get at supplier resiliency. That's really the core of what our solution is all about now so for North, America a and D client what we've done is we've taken and artificial intelligence engine that uses the supplier Jadot and what we're trying to do. We're actually working to predict the number of days late or a particular part, and we're doing that by bringing together a supplier. Number roaches order number eleven worry day in quantity, combination you all that information, Heather actually identify the number of as laid the opulent part is going to be and so by knowing the number of days way them. What were able to do is fight and determine. Do I have enough inventory? As coverage or that? Particular part is ultimately if I Joan I need to make additional decisions around production, and so what? We've been able to do with our solution. Experience up to ten percent improvement apart availability production. And we're also able to change the role of the delivery service analyst. Previous lanes individuals really operating. All here. Allergy by getting parts then wall really. Burning that role inches, someone that now uses ena an ai a better and improve sagem around artists that are going to chase I which parts are actually GonNa come in on Hind. So is a big ship in
Airbus stock drops 11.5%
"France's Airbus is born eleven and a half percent the playmaker said it doesn't plan any production cuts beyond a one third reduction announced in April C. O. guilt for reset earlier that Airbus would revisit the issue of output levels this month another French company Renault was dropped almost fifty and a half percent chairman Joan Dominique cinar said the automaker and European peers face a tsunami of Chinese electric vehicles
Global airline ADRs updates
"France's Airbus is falling eight point six percent the French government unveiled a rescue plan for the playmaker and its suppliers that's valued at about seventeen billion dollars Airbus's ADRs had risen for six straight days and gained a total of forty eight percent European airline ADRs are dropping as U. S. peers also pull back British Airways owner IAG is down six point eight percent in Air France KLM is down seven point two percent Hong Kong's Cathay Pacific Airways has risen five point three percent the carrier is selling four billion dollars in shares and warrants primarily the city's government and receiving a billion dollar loan from a government linked entities Cathay Pacific's largest shareholder is Hong Kong Swire Pacific who's eighty ours are also up five point three percent
"airbus" Discussed on Business Wars
"Capital one has a fresh take on banking. Now you can open a new savings account in about I five minutes and earned five times. The national average banking with capital one means five times the savings toward your dream honeymoon or five times the savings toward your family's ultimate vacation even five times the savings toward just feeling good about saving. It's time to make your savings goals come true. This this is banking reimagined. What's in your wallet capital one in a member? FDIC TOM on Anthony. Welcome to business wars. Thank you glad to be here. I think it's important to start. With some context here Boeing seven three seven. It's really pretty amazing when you think think about it. What a durable plane? It's been in service for over fifty years. You know you you go back you think about. When the seven three seven was released in the late nineteen sixties sixties or? Is it supposed to do. What was its niche in the in the aviation world well it was supposed to be a short haul aircraft to serve as regional airports? That role actually caused one major configuration feature of the seven thirty seven. And that is that is a very low to the ground. The aircraft it was designed to be loaded with the baggage from the ground without equipment and that design feature has stayed with it. That's really fascinating so the idea was presumably. Correct me if I'm wrong here. Maybe for regional carriers. That didn't have a whole lot of money. You could keep overhead down by not having to Lisa expensive loading equipment Is that is that part of the concept. I think the concept is to sell the aircraft to major carriers but to serve secondary secondary markets market. Presumably wouldn't have all of the equipment that some of the larger markets would. That's exactly right. As I understand it when Boeing owing release the seven three seven was Airbus anywhere in its peripheral vision. I mean was this something that that that Boeing was really considering a competition. Titian with the European consortium Airbus was not in the picture. The D. C. Nine of Douglas was in the picture and so the competition that we see now did not enter the picture until nineteen eighty eight so the seven thirty seven had a twenty one year head start. That's pretty amazing. What was Airbus up to? At that time I mean I I. You mentioned the DC nine in some people still have fond memories of of DC nine but Compared to Boeing Airbus in all this Airbus did did not exist in nineteen sixty seven there. The competition was Various other manufacturers even convair and Lockheed in the United States where competitor's with Boeing for commercial aviation market. That's kind of amazing I'd forgotten about. I mean La. These were once you know the giants of of the skies of American industry. You know Lockheed Douglas and Boeing and you think about it today I mean I guess Boeing is still the last is it. I mean is it sort considered to be the last man standing above all among all of those major aircraft builders from the US. Well in one way Boeing is the last person standing ending but in another sense. It's Douglas that is the last man standing. Because it is the heart and culture of Douglas aircraft that took over ver- when these two companies merged the organizational culture of Douglas than really pervaded Boeing and the culture going forward became problematic. And that's what we're seeing today. Oh that is fascinating and I want to get back to that but I want to roll back the clock if we can to that point at which Airbus begins to move in On the scene and it becomes a a an issue for Boeing. We're talking about what the late nineteen eighteen eighty S. I am I am I close with the three twenty one thousand nine hundred eighty eight was the eighth three twenty but before that before that The European countries and I should emphasize countries didn't want to be dominated by Boeing. They wanted to have a European competition to serve mainly the European market and so they merged together in the seventies and created the a three hundred which the Which Eastern Airlines purchase and Frank Borman the The astronauts supported and so basically it was a Great Britain France and Germany coming together to put together a European competition into the seven thirty-seven. Let's think about that for just a moment. Because eastern is I recall was based in Miami back in the day and they had A. They had a pretty strong service vist to they had a shuttle as I recall between a Boston and Washington DC. It strikes me as rather unusual that An an airline with such a major. US presence like eastern would choose Airbus over. Boeing was that kind of watershed moment. Do you think or no. It was not the same watershed moment as when American Airlines decided to buy the a three twenty in two thousand and eleven. Let's talk a little bit more about the a three three twenty You mentioned that it becomes a thing in the late. Nineteen eighties was Airbus. Also thinking as Boeing had a couple of decades earlier that they wanted a shorter haul carrier something that carried fewer passengers and sort of smaller hubs that sort of thing I think Airbus because it was a consortium. Some of companies I it had the organizational ability to listen to customers and reflect the needs of the market. And that is is something that if you think about it. In classical terms Boeing was like a heroic company but classical hero. Roy Heroes Have Hubris. And that's what we see developing in in Boeing and the inability to listen and so just to give you an idea In one thousand nine hundred ninety eight when the three twenty was introduced they sold fifteen of them. In the same year Boeing sold hundred and fifty two of the seven thirty-seven so was one tenth of the market and so they just really sort of did not think that they were a threat was so what was the deciding. Factor factor from the perspective of the airline companies. Once you had a choice between say the seven thirty seven and a plane like the three twenty what would have been the deciding. Factor price price is part of it but also fuel efficiency is a big part. And what's interesting is because that seven thirty seven was designed in nineteen sixty seven and the engines were a different type of They did not have a high bypass engine. It burned a lot more gas. And and then every attempt to change that engine was difficult for Boeing. So for instance that original engine on the seven thirty seven One hundred model was four feet. The new engine is eight feet and it weighs one thousand four hundred seventy pounds more so this really changes the original design handling of the aircraft. Well or before we go long on Max. Let's talk about what took bowing to at that point to begin with something happened. In two thousand six Boeing began to think about a successor for this very successful plan to seven thirty seven. And I suppose Jose Airbus was really thinking of doing the same thing. With the three twenty Boeing still hadn't decided exactly how they'd revamp the seven thirty seven but then Airbus showed its hand in in twenty ten with the launch of the three twenty neo same frame but it had an engine. That was a whole lot. More fuel-efficient for Boeing to do something similar. Well let me ask you this. Could they do it with a frame designed back in the late sixties. No no they could not. And that's why the Max had to be developed if you look at an eight three twenty and you look at a seven thirty seven taxing on the ground. You'll see that that seven thirty-seven is hunkered down close to the ground. But the a three twenty looks sort of perched up on long legs and those long legs allowed the three twenty to have the new high bypass fuel efficient engine and that became something that was really difficult for the seven thirty seven to accommodate and therefore or to move the engine. Ford was the only way they would be able to accommodate this new larger engine and heavier engine than before this brings exist to that watershed moment that you were talking about doesn't it. This is where I guess it would have been A. We're talking around twenty ten twenty eleven American Airlines it makes a pretty big decision and goes with Airbus and in January of two thousand and eleven. There was an apocryphal incident. Wouldn't that occurred. And the CEO of Boeing Commercial announced that he didn't think that even though Airbus was selling some aircraft and making good the numbers that they needed to design new narrow bodies single. I I'll aircraft for another decade. That was January two thousand eleven and then in in spring of two thousand eleven American Airlines announced that they were buying a several hundred eighty-three twenties and then that changed the world. But the problem problem was is they had already absorbed since nineteen ninety seven and nineteen ninety eight. They had already absorbed the Douglas Aircraft Organizational National Culture of cost cutting a whole organizational culture. That was completely unlike the Boeing culture that existed before that seems to be really important Gordon. And it's something that I haven't heard a lot of discussion about certainly in coverage of the development of the seven thirty seven. Max It's a cultural thing within Boeing which had absorbed Douglas that caused corners to be cut. Do I understand you correctly. Way More than that David in in nineteen ninety eight. It was announced that Harry Stonecipher from Douglas aircraft would be the head of Boeing Commercial Aircraft Division Asian. And this caused a shock to those in Boeing but also think about what resulted had in the organizational culture. All those people from Boeing all those Lueders who had proven themselves are now thinking. Well what am I. I'll chopped liver Hawaii Harry stonecipher getting this job. And so oh that started in nineteen ninety eight soon after in in two thousand and one they decided to move the headquarters from Seattle to Chicago Kogyo and in the same move they say and by the way though you one thousand employees that headquarters were only GonNa take five hundred of you to Chicago ago. How would those five hundred people react? It was a deeper cut to the organizational culture. And and of of Boeing at the time.
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"It's November. Two thousand eighteen and in Fort Worth Texas Boeing vice-president didn't Mike Senate is facing a hostile reception before him are a group of furious American Airlines pilots and they want answers about 'em uncast the seven three seven. Max Is Automated Flight Control System until last month's lion aircrash in Indonesia no 737 Max pilot had heard rid of 'EM CASS. He's not even mentioned in. The manuals are covered in pilot training but now is the prime suspect in the lion. Air Disaster the pilots now no impasse automatically adjust the plane's position using data from two centers on the plane's nose if either one of these sensors there's reports that the nose is pointing to high in casts automatically forces. The nose down to stabilize the plane. But on the Lion Air flight a faulty altea censor kept indicating that the nose was higher than it really was in response in cash repeatedly shove. The plane's nose down with deadly results one incensed pilot jabs his finger in the direction of the gray haired Boeing executive. The Lion Air guys didn't even know the damn system was on the airplane. Airplane neither did anyone else. Senate tries comedy. I don't know that understanding him would have changed the outcome. There are other situations that it can cause similar flight control problems and the way you resolve these problems of the same. Why do you need to know what is causing the problem before acting to solve it? Another pilot pilot steps in because this problem is masked by so many warning. Alerts and other distractions as pilots are the last line of defense. We need this knowledge Senate nuts. We will upgrade the software. But we don't want to rush into a crappy job. While Boeing works works on the upgrade. The Max keeps flying the FAA decides not to ground the plane even though its own internal analysis this is warning that could cause another fatal crash instead the FAA issues. Emergency Order telling pilots to review Their procedures Boeing sends pilots guidance on how to deal with an M. cast malfunction but neither measure is enough to prevent another tragedy tragedy on March tenth twenty nineteen and Ethiopian Airlines. Seven three seven. Max crashed shortly after takeoff from Addis Ababa following following another desperate battle with in casts. The crash kills all hundred and fifty seven people on board. Finally the world's aviation in regulators act starting with China. China has grounded its entire Boeing seven. Three seven Max. Fleet Day off after an Ethiopian Airlines. The plane crashed Australia's the latest countries to ban flying of the seven. Three seven. Max Aircraft. This comes after similar moves authorities in countries including China Singapore four on South Korea. We have an avalanche now of countries around the world grounding this plane and this one is a very big announcement the British Aviation Authority Jordy grounding the seven thirty seven Max follow off on Wednesday morning Canada grounds the Max leaving the FA. The only holdout within hours I president Donald Trump brings the US into line with the rest of the world. We're going to be issuing an emergency order of prohibition to ground off lights of the seven thirty eighty seven Max. Eighth Boeing is an incredible company. They are working very very hard right now. Aw and hopefully. They'll very quickly come up with the answer but until they do. The planes are grounded. But there's no quick answer mm-hmm and with the Max grounded Boeing's finances go into a tailspin Boeing stock plunges wiping fifty billion dollars off the company's value new orders for the Max dry up newly built maxes pileup at Boeing's plant in Renton Washington. The only silver lining for Boeing is that Airbus lacks production capacity too quickly capitalize on its troubled Airbus already has years worth of orders for the Eighth HR Twenty Neo backlogged blog airlines. That have ordered. The Max have little option. But to hope Boeing gets its house in order soon. But as more details about the Max and M. Cast s come to light hopes of an imminent fix fade leaked text messages. Reveal how a former Boeing employee. Boasted did of Jedi mind tricking regulators. Over the Max Former Employees Tales of assembly line workers under intense pressure to churn out planes fast just for being sidelined for raising safety concerns. Politicians demand to know why Boeing cut all mentions of 'em cast from pilot manuals and training industry observers questioned the wisdom of letting in casts intervene based on data from just one of the two knows position sensors on the Max and in October. Twenty nineteen eighteen a congressional committee halls Boeing CEO. Dennis Muilenburg to Capitol Hill demanding answers. Let me ask you this Mr Mueller Bird. You said you're accountable. What accountability meaner you taking a cut in pay? Are you working for free from now on. These people's relatives are not coming back. They're gone your salary still on. Is Anybody at Boeing. Taking a cut or working for free to try to rectify this problem like Japanese would do congressman. Uh It's not about the money for me. It's not. Why are you giving up any money congressman my Board will conduct a comprehensive review. That so you're saying you're not giving up any compensation at all your continuing to work and make thirty million dollars a year after this horrific two accidents that caused all these people's relatives to go home to disappear to die. You're not taking your cut in pay. All in December two thousand nineteen with no hope of the Max flying again anytime soon Boeing bows to the inevitable it halts production of the Max and fires Mula Burke but the bad news keeps coming in January. Twenty twenty Boeing hands over more than one hundred pages of internal communications that demonstrate a cavalier attitude to safety safety and a contempt for regulators within the ranks of the seven three seven workforce in one exchange and employees describes the maxes and aircraft quote vote designed by clowns. Who in turn are supervised by monkeys in another a worried? Boeing worker asks a colleague if he would let his family really fly on a Max the replies blunt. No as the new decade begins Boeing is on its knees. It's best selling plane is grounded indefinitely and no longer in production. The scrutiny is intensifying and its reputation is shattered but aircraft manufacturing is and always has been about the long game Boeing might be in dire straits right now but few airlines would want a world where Airbus is the only supplier in town. And that's why Airbus knows that it's probably a question of when not if Boeing makes a comeback but right now engulfed in scandal the idea of the American giant. Hi It returning to. Glory seems very far away and Airbus soaring ahead.
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"It's February twenty sixteen and in Boeing's facility in Everett in Washington. A team of seventy seven engineers are watching a live. company-wide Webcast on the screen is Ray Connor. He's the gray haired dimpled Chin and head of Boeing's Commercial Aircraft Division and. There's an anguish. Look on his face. We're losing Airbus's attacking US on price in every every single campaign last year at one sixty three percent of single-aisle orders with the eight three twenty against the seven three seven and that's alarming because the seven and three seven is our most profitable plane and the seven eight seven remains a long way from compensating for that one of the seven eight seven engineers snorts Dallas. Something we don't know his colleagues nod Boeing still losing money on every seven eight seven sold even if it is getting closer to breaking even on the screen. Connor keeps talking to compete with Airbus on price. We must reduce overheads and margins. Therefore we're undertaking undertaking a programme of extreme cost cutting now connors got the engineers undivided attention. They glance at each other wondering who among of them will survive. The call and as Boeing prepares to swing the axe the pressure to get the seven. Three seven Max into service intensifies is. It's a late evening. December two thousand seventeen and the seven three seven Max's. Chief technical pilot is burning the midnight oil so he takes a sip of Greg. SPA and logs into Boeing's internal messaging system. He notices that one of his colleagues is also online in taps. Sound message you online to this garbage that we're working this hard. The colleague requires immediately. Well that's the story of the seven three seven in group. The chief pilot takes another sip of vodka and updates his colleague on his efforts to stop India's aviation regulator demanding more indepth training for pilots on the Max ax by Jedi. Mind trick these fools. I should be given a thousand bucks every time I take one of these calls. I save this company a sick amount of money colleague things back. When did you convince them out to feel stupid about trying to require any additional training requirement? Two minutes later the colleague replies well done but these two aren't the only ones feeling the pressure Boeing's already told it's rent an assembly plant that it must produce an an unprecedented fifty two. Max is a month by twenty eighteen up from forty two seven three seven twenty fourteen. Some employees have safety concerns about the Max but they fear they'll lose their jobs if they speak out yet as far as the outside world concerned. The Max is coming together in record occurred time by twenty eighteen. The first Max's go into service by then Boeing's eating into Airbus's share of new single-aisle plane orders and his Airbus's sales lead shrinks Boeing stock price and revenues sore. It seems like momentum is finally on Boeing side but then it's October twenty nine twenty eighteen and in Jakarta Indonesia Lion Air flight. Six ten is cleared for takeoff in the cockpit of this seven three seven Max. The captain presses to take off button and the engines word alive seconds later the jet pulled off the runway headed to Bangka island with one hundred eighty nine people on board but but two minutes later. The first officer Contacts Air Traffic Control Terminal East Lima November India. Six ten request approval to proceed to some holding point number and six ten terminal East Twenty Shirt and Crafts Problem Terminal East Lima November India. Six Ten flight control problem. Yes the first sign that lion air. Six ten is in trouble as the plane. Heads over the Java Sea pilots are barred with stall warnings. Suddenly the plane's nose lurches down the captain pulls back hard on the control column to lift the nose but every time he does. The plane's nose knows pulled down again. Even harder as the pilot tries to tame the plane the seven three seven Max Roller coasters through the air like a bucking bull and with every downward lurch the nose sinks further and further below the horizon finally thirteen minutes after takeoff and the pilots lose the bite. The nose jerks down one last time forcing the plane into a near vertical descent. The first officer sees to see rushing towards him through the windshield and gasps his last words a split second later Lion Air flight six ten slams into the water killing everyone on board by the time aircrash aircrash investigators start pulling bodies and wreckage from the C.. They're already homing in on a potential cause something inside the Max that the two doomed zoomed pilots didn't even know existed. Something that will soon strike.
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"On the last episode Airbus entered development. Hell after messing up. The wiring of the eighty three. Eighty Superjumbo jumbo giving Boeing more time to build and went over airlines. With its new high-tech seven eight seven dreamliner now. Airbus is raking in orders for the three three twenty neo pushing bowing to respond with the single wild seven three seven Max but first Boeing's got to get the twin-aisle dreamliner airborne born. This is episode six. Mayday it's October. Twenty six twenty eleven and in Tokyo's Narita Airport passengers are boarding the first commercial flight on a seven eight. Seven dreamliner seem lighter at the gate all Nippon Airways execs in traditional festive coats. Smile and handout wooden boxes of Saturday. It's fifty fifty three years to the day. Since Pan Am put Boeing's first passenger. Jet Into Service and Boeing hopes that like the seven. Oh seven the long haul dreamliner will also also be a game changer. The dreamliner is the first airliner made primarily from carbon composite materials airlines. Love it because it's easy on fuel. Will passengers find the taller windows appealing as well as the touch screen inflight entertainment system but the dreamliner project is swimming in red ink and the plane's plane's inaugural flight is three. And a half years late Boeing spent twenty billion dollars making the seven eight seven even with eight hundred orders bag. The plane is years away from breaking even and that makes defending the best selling seven three seven family from the Eighth HR Twenty Neo mission critical. It's twenty twelve and in Seattle to specialists in aerodynamics inside Boeing's Trans Sonic wind tunnel setting up an experiment they carefully adjust a scale model of a seven three seven Max six. That's about the size of an equal before they exit the tunnel to start their tests today. They're testing how the seven three seven Max handled handled steep banking turn. It's an extreme maneuver one. No commercial pilot is likely to do. But the Max must handle this maneuver smoothly to get certified to fly by the US. Federal Aviation Administration the Orange numbers on the led display rise as the wind tunnel blasts air. The model the Aero Dynamics specialists take notes just dials one glances at the monitor screen in frowns. The nose is pitching up. Yeah not not good. Reckon that's because the engines are bigger and further forward on the wing. They're creating more surface for left. The pair stare at the model with its nose is rising skywards rather than staying level. That's a certification. Fail right there. It's a Max to fly. Well well this problem got to be fixed. But it won't be easy. I the engines can't be reposition. Seven three seven decades old airframe isn't designed designed for big modern jet engines. There's no option. But to put the engines further forward on the wing than on previous seven three seven Boeings also promised airlines lines that 737 pilots will be able to fly. The Max with just a few hours of computer based training for that to happen the Max must feel and fly just slide earlier seven three seven but with its reposition engines. There's no way the maxwell handle like its predecessors so Boeing solves off the problem by rating Airbus's playbook since the nineteen eighties. Airbus has used. Its Fly by wire flight computers to eliminate the differences in handling ruling of all. Its jets. Computers work behind the scenes to compensate for the differences so that the planes feel the same pilots as a result for pilots. There's as little difference between flying a single eight three twenty and a mammoth a three eighty. Now Boeing's doing this same for the Max. It creates a software where program called. MCAS IM- CASS IM- cast. His job is to automatically adjust the horizontal stabilisers on the tail. So that the plane lean flies just like an older seven three seven. And with 'em cash in place Boeing can keep its promise that airlines. Who by the Max won't be saddled with multimillion multi-million dollar pilot training bills but while the Max gathered speed the dreamliner is about to encounter an electrical electrical storm? It's January twenty thirteen and in Chicago. Boeing CEO. James mcnerney. Just got home his fish. Dinner's in the oven. And he's in sweatpants ready for his evening workout but then a message buzzes on his phone as he heads to the table to check his phone on another message arrives and then another and another and another by the time mcnerney grabs this phone vibrating wildly. He checks the first message. And his eyes widen dammit. He races to the kitchen grabs the TV remote and switches on CBS News. Forty five minutes after takeoff on a domestic flight in western Japan flight attendant on this All Nippon Upon Airway seven eighty-seven announced in a shaky voice is there would be an emergency landing. One hundred twenty nine passengers evacuated on emergency chutes and inspection of the aircraft revealed Burns around the main battery mcnerney stares in horror at the footage of passengers fleeing the aircraft. It's the second battery battery fire on a seven eight seven this month. mcnerney knows what happens now. The seven eight seven dreamliner gets grounded. The following morning mcnerney holds an emergency meeting with his top engineers in Boeing's high rise headquarters in Chicago. The dreamliner just become the first plane grounded by the FAA since nineteen seventy nine and as usual the rest of the world's regulators follow follow. Its lead mcnerney knows Boeing will have to compensate the airlines for the losses. It's also a given that customers won't be accepting deliveries of new dreamliner until the FAA deems. The plane fit to fly again. mcnerney turns to John Tracy but when she technology officer is it the Lithium Ion batteries again. Yes but we're not clear on the cause but my team in Japan say yesterday's incident didn't endanger the plane or passengers. Singers mcnerney slams. His fist on the table. Don't you understand what we're dealing with here. This isn't just an engineering question. It's about safety safety. It's about confidence. Confidence in Boeing. People do not want to fly on planes that catch fire get this fixed fast. Ast It cannot happen again tracy gets the message. Boeing racist redesigned the batteries to reduce the risk of short circuits and fires urged. The company then sends its mechanics around the world so there on site ready to implement the improvements as soon as the FAA gives the okay in April roll twenty thirteen to Boeing's relief the FAA approves. The remedy and dream liners are once again airborne. Now Boeing can refocus focus on its priority project. The seven three seven Max. Boeing's Max is nearly ready but that's small comfort because Airbuses. Three twenty neo is a sale sensation by the time. A three twenty neo interservice in late. Twenty fifteen Airbus has forty forty five hundred orders for its new aircraft. The Max trails by fifteen hundred orders for years. The seven three seven eighty three twenty had been neck and neck but now Airbus has a decisive lead. A lead that Boeing's top team pledges will not stand.
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"It's spring twenty eleven. An American American Airlines is shopping for jets and this is no ordinary shopping list. Now this will be the biggest order for commercial jets get history a twenty the three billion dollar purchase update Americans aging narrow body fleet and now American. CEO Gerard Arpey is close to a decision arpey sits in his office in Fort Worth Texas nudging. His wire frames spectacles up his nose. He picks up the phone and calls Boeing CEO. James James mcnerney James Gerard American. I've got news a smile creeps. Across mcnerney face Boeing and Airbus have been battling for months to win this deal. Airbus trying to win over American with its latest creation. The a three twenty neo but Boeing's not worried the three three twenty neo is little more than an eighth three twenty with more modern fuel-efficient engines partly a match for the brand new single jet Boeing's offering to make besides nights Boeing an American or tight. American only owns Boeing jets. Switching to Airbus will require the airline to surrender the big discounts it gets from its sole supplier. Deal with Boeing mcnerney. Eases back in his chair with sweet anticipation good news. I hope our be pauses briefly. No I'm sorry it's not good news for you. mcnerney springs forward in his chair. You're buying Airbus yes. I've agreed to buy two one hundred sixty three twenty three twenty. Nieto's I don't WanNa wait a decade for a new Boeing rb. Let's the shock sink in before continuing his explanation. The Nation with the Eighth HR twenty neo. I get the new fuel efficient airplanes in service by late two thousand fifteen but I haven't yet decided on who will get the remaining two hundred planes so you got a chance to counter but James if you want some of this action your offer has to be way more competitive okay. Gerard Message. Received loud and clear Boeing scrambled into action. It shelves plans for a new jet. Xerox's Airbus's a three twenty neo strategy by proposing the seven three seven Max a revamped seven thirty seven of quipped with the latest engines. Boeing also promises that current seven three seven pilots will only need a few hours of computer based training to fly the Max rather than expensive simulator training. The offer saves the day in July. Twenty Eleven American gives Boeing the rest of its order and that victory comes not a moment too soon. Airbus already has hundreds of orders for the three twenty neo threatening the seven. Three seven status is the world's best-selling plane Boeing reckons the Max can catch up with the three twenty neo. But to succeed Boeing must deliver on the promise of minimal pilot training. You and that means Boeing must fit bigger more fuel-efficient modern engines on the seven thirty Sevens forty-five-year-old airframe without altering how it flies. But this marriage of old airframe and new engines leaves Boeing with an engineering conundrum a challenge. It must solve in record time and this race best Airbus will cause bowing to make some bad calls that will end in tragedy from wondering. I'm David Brown and this this is business.
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"It's fall two thousand four and a cavernous Airbus assembly plant into loose France. An army of mechanics are building the first a three eighty among them is a German mechanic and a high visibility reflective jacket. He whistles as he gets to work inside the twenty three foot wide central fuselage. He spent weeks six laying the spaghetti like massive cables that now cover the walls and today he's connecting. The electrics of the German made central fuselage to the French manufactured doctored no section. He unfurled a bundle of wires and threads them through the wall. The wires inch toward the cable harness. Where the two fuselage sections meet and then he runs out of wire what? The wires are several inches short of the connection he tugs at the cables. But there's no slack then he here's a shout from the rear end of the eighth three eighty. It's the colleague wiring together. This central in rear fuselage's Hey Hey come look at this. My wires to short the mechanic gulps the gap might be tiny but on an aircraft craft with more than three hundred miles of wires. This is a massive problem. It's spring two thousand six in the Paris headquarters of Airbus parent. EADS CO-CEO NOEL fours years ready to explode. He's just been told that the eighth three eighties. He's wires are too short and the team needs six months to fix the problem. He clinches his fists in Glares at the eighth three eighties production chief six months just to fix them wires. They're just wires. The production chief rings his hands. It's not that simple. We are building building. The most complex passenger aircraft ever made we have overcome some of the toughest engineering challenges in aviation history. And now now you say some damn wires going to cause months of delay cost a billions of euros. The production chief tries again. It's not a simple fix. We can't just insert extra connections if we do that. It'll increase the electrical resistance reducing the power. We need to rip out what every cable we've installed correct the problem and manufacture replacement equipment. Only then can we put the wires back in. How did this a happening? The Germans are using an older version of the design software. Then the French teams it. Seems the wire stiffness calculations are different different between the two versions as a result. The designs don't match per year puts his head in his hands in despair. Airbus might be one company now but the old national silos still remain a few years back. Airbus's French engineers tried pushing the Germans to upgrade their software but the Germans resisted unwilling to be bossed around by the French. So rather than take sides Airbus's manufacturers let the Germans. I do it their way. And that's about to become a very expensive decision in June. Two thousand six Airbus announces a six month delay. Okay two eighty three eighty deliveries a setback. That will cost it two billion euros over the next four years the day after the news breaks. EADS a stock plunges twenty six percent within weeks fours years out Airbus sends hundreds of German workers to to lose to try and get the thirteen billion dollar project back on track but the delays keep coming six months becomes a year airlines and cargo carriers cancel orders. There's in demand late delivery payments but still the a three eighty slips further behind schedule. And all the while Boeing is gaining altitude. It's July two thousand seven and in Everett Washington. Fifteen thousand excited aviation fans are waiting for Boeing to unveil this seven eighty seven dreamliner. They watch the massive doors of the seven eighty seven assembly plant roll back in reveal a blue widened. Sober Jetta door with a Boeing logo. Crowd claps awesome cheers at the side of the jet. That's revitalizing America's leading aircraft maker. The dreamliner isn't flying yet. But it's already an aviation's nations in station. It's the fastest selling plane. Boeing's ever made airlines love its fuel efficiency and high tech features and passengers. Will I love the tall windows and improved air quality Boeing's already got seven hundred orders and a six year waiting list but when the crowd gets to see the seventy-seven close their shock one aviation enthusiast in a military cap turns to his PAL. After checking out the fuselage you see that temporary fasteners uh-huh and there's a whole right over there. This isn't a finished airplane. It's an empty shell. He's right. This seven eighty eighty seven is about as airworthy is a paper plane. It's held together with make do parts and fake surfaces. And that's because Boeing suppliers are struggling to keep up. The demands of the dream liners advanced. Tech and composite. Materials have pushed Boeing suppliers to the limit their behind on everything everything from the computer software to the titanium fastener that whole the plane together. Not that Boeing's fretting and that's because Airbus's alternative alternative. The a three fifty is still years away from completion and lagging far behind in orders with the days when Airbus was too busy making it super per jumbo to focus on challenging the seventy seven or about to end for a new era in the has begun with the arrival in Sydney. They minutes ago. It's October two thousand seven and the a three eighty is finally inservice. It might be two years late but when the I eighty three eighty any passenger flight lands in Sydney. It's national news the I three. It Airbus's about to set new benchmarks in aviation standard. It's the the cleanest. The green is the biggest passenger jet aircraft in the world. Today I can also tell you. It's the quad. Unlock the Qantas Jumbo. They're trying to take off. Just Massad. Assad in ruin Singapore's five patacas Ivan Eric. But for all the excitement the three eighty is already a financial failure. It's arrived nearly a seven billion dollars over budget and few airlines. Want to spend two hundred eighty million dollars on a jet but seems out of step with the Times. Airbus Airbus imagined a future where superjumbos would connect the giant hub airports of mega cities but low. Cost carriers are increasingly flying people direct to final destination and airports the charge. Less than the big hubs and right now that shift in the market is playing right into Boeings hands hands on the next episode. Airbus strikes back with a revamped three twenty. The dreamliner gets grounded and the seven thirty seven. Max Shatters Boeing's reputation from wondering. This is business wars. We hope you enjoyed enjoyed this episode. We invite you to subscribe on Apple. PODCASTS spotify Google podcast pitcher iheartradio. Wherever you get your podcasts? 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"It's September nineteen. Ninety seven and Boeing plant in Renton Washington. Workers White overalls and face masks or spray painting the latest seven. Thirty seven to roll off the assembly line but then an announcement comes over. The public address system plays gather on the factory floor for an urgent meeting. Urgent Meeting now in the factory floor workers arrived to find their stressed out. Supervisor pacing up and down. There's there's been another well screw up. The wiring is not finished on the jet. You're painting it's gotTa go back to wiring right away. We'll have to start over over when it returns one worker explodes. Why this again? What the Hell is going on around here? Every workers wondering the same same thing and that's because Boeing's new aggressive sales strategy has worked. Tactic worked so well. That avalanche of orders is overwhelming. The company suppliers are struggling to produce parts fast. Enough half-built jets are filling the tarmac outside the assembly lines workers are pulling triple shifts and still l. can't dent the backlog in all this chaos lanes are being sent to the wrong part of the production line but instead of getting on top of the situation quickly quickly Boeing's top brass has led the problems fester. They're too busy trying to nail the thirteen billion dollar takeover of McDonald Donald Douglas. That'll make Boeing the world's biggest military planemaker and they don't want to make any decisions that could endanger that acquisition finally in October nineteen ninety seven with McDonnell. Douglas Buyout done CEO Phil Condit Acts. He shuts down the seven three seven. Seven seven four seven production lines for three weeks to restore order but the damage is already done. The Manufacturing Meltdown L. Down Forces conduct to announce two point six billion dollar right off the company's stock price plunges wiping out four point three billion dollars of Boeing's value in rage stockholders sue airlines demand millions in late delivery penalties Boeing's reputation as the king of American manufacturing shattered Boeing's push for more orders has backfired badly early and give an Airbus one more shot at becoming top gun on the next episode. Scandal engulfs Boeing. Airbus is Super Jumbo. Hit severe turbulence in the US and EU. Get in the ring. Hello from wondering this is business wars. We sure hope you enjoyed this episode. We invite you to subscribe on Apple. PODCAST spotify Google podcasts. CAST stitcher iheartradio. Wherever you get your podcasts? There's a link on the episode notes. And if you tap or swipe over the cover art you'll also see some offers from our sponsors. We hope you'll support Russia by supporting them. If you like what you've been listening to it would be great if you could give us a five star rating and tell your friends how to subscribe another way to support us is by answering a short survey at wondering Henry Dot com slash survey and tell us what business war stories. You'd like to hear next quick note about the conversations you've been hearing. We can't know exactly what was said but this dialogue doc is based on our best research. I'm your host David Brown Tristian Donovan wrote the story. Karen lower our senior producer and editor produced by. Emily Frost. Sound design by Kyle. Randall in our executive producers are Jenny Lower Beckmann as marshal Louis created by Ernon Lopez four wondering. Hey I'm Rufus Chris calm the host of wondrous show the next big idea each week on the podcast we bring you ideas as with the power to change the way you see the world this week. The question we're asking is why is it so hard to break bad habits and replace them with good ones. In my case the question would be. How can I replace my Bourbon on the rocks with a Kale smoothie you may think it all comes down to willpower but social psychologist? Wendy Woods Woods says that if you really want to change your life then you need to tap into your unconscious mind. She talks with next big idea. Club curator Adam grant about harnessing the the science of habit formation to make positive changes the last to listen to the conversation and hear other fascinating. New ideas subscribe to the next big idea from wondering..
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One more time ziprecruiter dot COM mm slash. VW Ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire It's April nineteen ninety-five in Munich Germany. The Airbus executives are in the bar of the Four Seasons Hotel and the Knight's still young a few hours ago. They held a dinner with their Boeing counterparts to mark the end of their Super Jumbo Alliance. After three years of uneasy cooperation. They've hit an impasse. Boeing feels the market is too small to justify the fifteen billion in dollar investment. The Super Jumbo Needs Airbus disagrees so they've ended their alliance and now with Boeing's team already off to bed the well lubricated Airbus crew is dreaming big Airbus CEO. John Pearson pours another glass of white wine and grants. Maybe we put seats on the wings and other executive signals to the waitress for another round and offers a pie in the sky idea of his own now. Mak- The triple decker play. It could have shops casinos hairdressers. The wild ideas keep flowing as do the drinks wchs. They're still talking at sunrise and when they finally crash into their beds they no longer care about. The risks. Airbus is going to build the the biggest passenger jet. This world has ever seen no matter. The cost but back in Seattle Boeing is about to resume hostilities. Ladies it's nineteen ninety. Six and in his office in Boeing headquarters. The company's Binny's new CEO Phil Condit has got a plan to put Airbus on the defensive to do that. He wants to transform Boeing from an engineering lead business to one driven by sales and to win sales. He needs to go on the offensive against Airbus. And that's why he's called. Ron Woodard into his office office. Conduct just put woodard in charge of Boeing's Commercial Aircraft Division. And he's looking to him to come up with a winning strike against Airbus. Condit takes a Swig from his Coffee Cup and looks at Whittard. So Ron Houses strategy of yours work we produce and uppercut Airbus if if we make planes faster and cheaper than they can and we can. They're toast imagine a world where airlines can order a plane and get it delivered as quickly as you or me could get a new car. Dr Condie knows the analogy is often he gets the logic Airbus's consortium it can't just ramp up production. It needs to get all its partner manufacturers juris from various countries to agree I that kind of bureaucracy can work in Boeing's favour a price war would also create a headwind for Airbus the European governments that bankrolled Airbus are now pressing. The consortium to deliver profits the days. When Airbus could undercut Boeing without feeling the pinch or ending ending a sly smile grows on condit's face? He likes this plan soon. After Boeing's blitz begins armed with big discounts and aggressive delivery timetables Boeing Rolls Airbus after twenty years of rising market get share Airbus stops gaining altitude to win customers. Now it'll have to make some painful concessions. This episode of business wars is brought to you by Dell New Year new budgets. Every small business has unique needs when you partner with a Dell small business his technology advisor you get real time tailored advice they'll even give you a free audit on your servers and storage devices to develop a custom solution to help improve. Move Your Company's productivity plus right now upgrade to windows ten and get up to forty five percent off select business computers with Intel core processors to speak with Adele adviser call eight seven seven by Dell. That's eight hundred. Seventy seven buy Dell It's nineteen ninety seven and us. Airways head office in Arlington. Virginia Virginia Airbus CEO John Pearson spilling pretty good. He spent months working out of four hundred plane. Deal with the airline. It's an agreement worth between clean five and eighteen billion dollars depending on options but plenty big enough to make up for all. The orders lost a Boeing and now Pearson's in the office of US Airways away CEO. Steve Wolfe convinced. He's a handshake away from clinching. This mega contract. So we're good actually. No I've got more asks Pearson's Heart Sinks. He thought the haggling was over Wolf issues his his first demand the deliveries to start a year earlier. Steve That's impossible. How about we bring the schedule? Forward two months three months. How right? What else I want? Five percent off the Price Pearson unlocks is with Wolf and slowly stands up then the Airbus. CEO unbuckle his belt. And lets his pants drop. Well See. I've got no more to give all right all right Jeeze Pearson get your pants back on. Okay the deals yours. Just pull those damn pants back. But while Pearson's Diggity is taking a hit Boeing's discovering the downside of success.
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"It's early February. Nineteen eighty seven in a government office in central London. US trade ambassador. Michael Smith is meeting with representatives from four European nations that fund Airbus and the atmosphere's. Here's getting frosty. The fifty one year old American ambassador reiterates his message. The United States' position is clear. We don't mind competition. What we object to is Boeing McDonnell Douglas having to compete with a rival funded by European governments? The ball Britain a pin striped suit responds. He's he's Geoffrey Pattie Britain Trade Minister I find it bizarre that the country whose aircraft manufacturers own eighty percent of the market is complaining about Competition Competition Smith Flick. Through the figures Boeing and McDonnell. Douglas gave him ahead of this meeting. Collectively you've given Airbus ten billion dollars in state eight since nineteen seventy. It's not unreasonable to ask that you reduce the level of support in the future. Patty pushes back if you WANNA talk about subsidies. Let's discuss those massive military contracts and research. Grants you give Boeing and mcdonnell-douglas indirect subsidies that help them develop technology they can use in the civilian market. Those are not subsidies their payments for military equipment and irritated French trade officials steps in. So you're saying because Europe does does not support Airbus in the same way you support Boeing. It is not allowed. You're attacking the Airbus system because you don't want competition. Smith eyeballs the European team. Listen I prefer negotiated resolution but believe me. Talks aren't the only option available to the American. The government. The French official rolls his eyes at the Vail threat of sanctions So now we're getting down to Rambo politics you put up tariffs so we put up tariffs and neither of gets anywhere. The meeting ends with neither side giving an inch. The Gulf between America and Europe is widening morning and the stakes are rising. It's Valentine's Day nineteen eighty-seven and inside a hangar into lose who's blind yuck airport rows of seated reporters and VIP's are here for an unveiling they watch is dry. Ice Clouds billow out then then from behind a curtain and airport tug pulls out a brilliant white plane. It looks like it's floating in the clouds. Uh It's the I eighty three twenty and today marks the arrival of what's already become Europe's best-selling passenger your jet. The a three twenty hasn't flown a single mile but the orders are flooding in airlines are going wild for its computerized fly by wire. Technology Technology. Airbus already has more than four hundred orders more than enough to make the eighth three twenty. A real threat to Boeing seven thirty-seven after this ceremony. French Prime Minister Jacques Chirac heads into the eighth round. He's high tech cockpit followed by TV news crews. He sits surrounded by the futuristic computer screens and with cameras rolling he fires a warning shot at the US. The three twenty is already a spectacular success S. and we will keep supporting the creation of new Airbus jets. We won't be threatened into maintaining the American monopoly. If America wants a trade trade war it will get one but behind the scenes. Both sides are climbing down from their respective hills the the US is backing away from its threat of a trade war because the dispute could hurt Boeing's European sales instead both sides agree to request a clarification on international trade rules governing aircraft manufacturing subsidies but the wheels of world trade law turn slowly slowly. It'll be years before the clarification comes so while the trade dispute is stuck in a holding pattern Airbus advances Mrs in March Nineteen eighty-eight. It delivers the I eighty three twenty two airlines and the orders. Keep coming. Even once wants loyal Boeing carriers like Pan Am and Northwest Airlines at a three twenty two their fleets and Europe's aviation fans love. It's new high-tech attack. Jet Airbus goal of getting thirty percent of the market is within reach. It's June nineteen eighty-eight and obscene airshow is underway at me. Airport close to France's border with Switzerland in West Germany. The thousands of spectators look up as an Air France. A three twenty to say at the controls is Captain Michelle all abilene. He's out to impress the crowd and his hundred and thirty six passengers by performing a tricky stunt he pulls back the side stick to raise the plane's nose to the sky this engages the auto throttle and reduces the engine power. The spectators gasped as the three twenty gracefully leaf. Floats forty feet above the runway with its nose pointed skywards ready to pull into the sky but in the cockpit. The copilot's worry. Sorry careful of the pilots ahead. You see them Yes yes. Don't worry as the plane reaches. The end of the runway is Leeann hits the throttle to make the plane lane sore back into the sky. The engine surged were maximum. Power the a three twenty clive's but not fast enough details already ready smashing into the forest just past the runway the wings crashing to the trees the engines sucking in leaves and branches. The horrified crowd watches. This is a huge fireball rises from the woods. Everyone at the airshow is wondering the same thing. Did anyone survive. But another question looms over this tragic spectacle was this Kyla terror or was the three twenty s flight computer to blame on the next episode. The Eighth HR twenty is put under the microscope. Airbus forges an unexpected partnership and Boeing wing has a manufacturing meltdown from wondering. This is business. Wars I I hope you enjoyed this episode. We invite you to subscribe on Apple podcasts. spotify Google podcasts. Stitcher iheartradio wherever you get your podcasts. 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"Of crashes these days a computer can help protect the plane for bad pilots. It could could stop them banking too far installing it could make subtle adjustments to ensure optimal fuel-efficiency pilots wouldn't even need control wheels anymore. They could fly by joystick instead. The horrified engineer turns to potato. He wants to turn planes to computer games. Roger Surely you agree. This is insanity but Batavia doesn't agree instead. He's grinning ear to ear. Actually this. This is genius the possibilities. Their incredible Bernard would the computer control the way the Eighth Three Twenty handled Ziegler. What's fantastic? Don't you see. The computer controls the pilot experience. We can duplicate data on all our aircraft craft. It won't matter if it's a big twin jeter narrow short hole if you can fly one Airbus you can fly them. All Airlines will save millions in pilot training training. We've got to do this. But it's going to take years to develop this technology for the three twenty and the meantime. The sales war with Boeing is heating up. It's summer nineteen eighty-four and in the Turkish capital capital of Ankara franz-josef. Strauss is having a lunch with Turkey's foreign minister. It's been fifteen years since. The Bavarian politician saved Airbus like convincing convincing the West German government to fill the financial hole left by Britain's exit. Now Strauss is the chairman of Airbus. He picks a lamb meatball from from the platter in front of him and smiled. I love these. The Turkish foreign minister smiles. I'm glad so. You want to talk about Turkish Airlines Strauss. Most certainly does he wants Turkey's national airline to abort its plan to spend six hundred million dollars on Boeing jets. Yes I feel. There's been a misunderstanding about Airbus. The ministers face darkens. There's no misunderstanding. We're not buying French aircraft. France treats Turkey disrespectfully. They allowed that monument in Paris to the so called Armenian genocide perpetuating waiting lies about our country. Strauss's knows better than to tackle the minister's denial about the genocide but Abbas is more German than French. You see see German factories do most of the work in those factories also employ many Turks. So when you think about it. Abbas planes arches which is German. There are Turkish to the minister is in quite buying it. But Strauss has just given him a way to buy Airbus without out appearing to support France and now Strauss gives the minister. A reason to buy I think that if Turkey supported a pan-european in European project like Airbus it would be a plus for Turkey's efforts to join the European Economic Community. The minister smiles. A good point has stress. Shortly after. Turkish Airlines dumps Boeing for Airbus. Boeing is furious Strauss's intervention it presses the US government to have words with West Germany. And since Boeing is America's biggest export order. The government obliges a few days later a US. Trade official calls West Germany's economic minister. The German government is interfering with Boeing's wings deal with Turkish Airlines and that's unacceptable. The West German minister pushes back. We have done nothing of the sort franz-josef Strauss doesn't work worked full or represent the German government. I do not control him. Strauss might be an elected representative of Bavaria and the Chairman of Airbus which is partly they funded by West Germany but he doesn't represent the German government the US has no choice but to let the matter slide but Washington pays more attention to Boeing's claims that Airbuses threatening the American aviation industry with the three twenty in the pipeline. The Administration knows it must act. America's top ex border is in jeopardy luckily the federal government. It has a rescue plan. Hey here's an honest question. 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"It's June nineteen eighteen seventy eight and inside the British embassy in Washington DC. Boeing sales chief techs bouillon is plotting a billion dollars strike at Airbus but to succeed. Lead this Slick Square Jawed Boeing executive must win over the man across the breakfast table British Prime Minister James Callaghan Callahan's Alejandra prickly man whose eyebrows seem fixed into a permanent scowl. Mr Bouillon. Please call me. Tech's Mr Bouillon. This offer to have British Aerospace make the wings of Boeing's next airplane. Is it genuine. Some feel it's not billions eyes widen in surprise. I can tell you it's very much genuine. It's expensive and risky to make new airplanes in our interest to partner with British Aerospace to produce the wings and this gives the U. K. a pivotal role in creating the seven sixty seven. But Callahan knows there's more this offer. Why would Boeing wing approach British Aerospace which already makes wings for Airbus sure Boeing's promising to invest a billion dollars in the UK but if Callahan accepts British British relations with France in West Germany will be seriously damaged? British Aerospace won't be happy either it wants to rejoin Airbus as a partner list of Bouillon. British Aerospace is more than a production line. It should have a role in selling this seven. Sixty seven prime minister Boeing. Boeing has the best aircraft sales team in the world with all due respect. Sir We don't need help from British airspace. Well then you offer offer is too low. The prices fair British Aerospace just needs to be more efficient. We could help raise their game. Callahan Mahan Arches and eyebrow nerve of Bouillon. He's treating Callahan like the leader of some Third World country. Well this has been informative. Mr Boolean show considerable things off of further. Callahan gets up to leave. But he's already made his choice. Two months later Britain rejects Boeing's deal and buys it's way back into Airbus Boeing's attempt to pull the wings off Airbus his failed so now it's time for plan B. Do whatever it takes to shut the European upstart out of the marketplace from wondering. I'm David Brown. And and this is business wars.
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"Indian Airlines Buys Airbus but of lothair wished for more orders. He's going to be disappointed. In nineteen seventy six Airbus cells. Exactly we won a three hundred. That's it by nineteen seventy seven the a three hundred looks like dud. It's been on sale five years and gotten on just thirty seven orders. Airbus seems like another European aviation failure. It's burning through the taxpayers money to make a plane. No one wants even the true believers in the French government horr- asking themselves whether they should withdraw their support for the project and while Airbus stalls Boeing's flying high the recession that sunk. The American economy is over with passenger numbers climbing airlines and are buying planes again. And they're mostly buying Boeing. The seven forty seven is now making millions and the companies medium haul. Seven thirty eighty seven is fast becoming the workhorse of the world's airlines Boeing's US rivals are struggling to Lockheed's under investigation for bribing being Ford officials to win orders. McDonnell Douglas has been hit by a spate of DC. Ten crashes Boeing now owns half the market and is rapidly early gaining altitude but not here is not giving up. He thinks the a three hundred can be saved but to do it. He needs a deal that will turn the heads of airline chiefs and make them take Airbus seriously and only one. Do can do that. A contract it with a major. US carrier it's time for Airbus to make a sortie into enemy airspace. This episode of business wars is brought to you by Dell New Year new budgets. Every small business has unique needs when you partner with a Dell Small Business Technology advisor you get real time tailored advice they'll even give you a free audit on your servers and storage devices to develop L. A. Custom solution to help improve your company's productivity. Plus right now upgrade to windows ten and get up to forty five percents off select business computers with Intel core processors to speak with Adele adviser. Call eight seven seven by Dell. That's eight seven seven by Dell.
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"Its early nineteen sixty eight Airbus coordinator Nater rosia potatoes in Fort Worth Texas but today is a slender man. Dark teased up hair. And he's come to America to visit American Airlines Technical Director Director. Frank Coke betray sits in cokes office and lays his cards on the table. The Abbas project is too focused on Europe. I I want the Airbus to appeal to. US airlines too. So tell me what kind of jet does American Airlines truly want coke nods and opens. His desk asked drawer. He pulls out a brown folder. Enhance it to Batavia. This is what I want. Here are the specifications for two engine jet aircraft they can transport two hundred and fifty people up to fifteen hundred miles bettiah studies. The design is coke speaks. Boeing and Douglas refused to make it they say only jets with three or four engines can do what I want. Batavia shakes his head. What nonsense of course it can be done while US three engines when you can do the same job with two coke hits the desk with his hand exactly exactly two engines are all you need aide? Leaves Fort Worth armed with a brand new template for what the Airbus should be over the next year. Batavia Tayo works with the European manufacturers to design a jet that closely alliance with colds vision. They call it the a three hundred designed done. The Airbus consortium asks Britain France and West Germany to hand over the hundreds of millions needed to put the a three hundred into production. But the consortium S- about to discover that not everyone's willing to pay their share of the TAB it's February nineteen sixty nine and in Bonn West German Chancellor Kurt key singer and British prime minister. Harold Harold Wilson are briefing the press on their latest annual summit but when they opened the Florida questions reporters immediately zero in on the cracks. The Airbus alliance whether it be British funding for the bus the German chancellor steels himself. Britain's Prime Minister Wilson takes his pipe from his mouth in response with his trademark use of metaphors. When speaking Britain will heedlessly spend money on this the reality is aerospace? Collaboration action is a desert track. Limited with the whitening bodies of abortive. Joint projects. Mostly undertaken at high cost for France and West S. Germany. That's the final Straw. So they issue an ultimatum to Britain. Get on board or the Airbus takes off without you you Wilson responds by pulling Britain out of the Airbus project. He thinks Rolls Royce will be better off chasing American dollars and with the cost of the much delayed concord spinning out of Control. He's wary of getting Britain entangled and yet another European aviation project Britain's exit plunges the Airbus project into crisis British aircraft manufacturer Hawker Siddeley. was supposed to make the eighth three hundred's swings but the company can't afford to do that without backing from the British government and without wings the Airbus grounded in May nineteen. sixty-nine Bonn West Germany franz-josef Strauss scurries as fast as he can down the corridors of the German finance finance department the rotund Bavarian politicians on a mission to save Airbus. and Time's running out. If the future of Airbus isn't resolved in time I'm for the Paris Air Show later this month the consortium could fall apart. Strauss is a powerful figure. In West German politics. He leaves the country's third third biggest political party. And Right now. That party can tip the balance of power Strauss also sees himself. As the champion of Germany's aviation industry. He he believes Airbus is critical to its future. He enters the office of Economics. Minister Karl Schiller slumps into a chair. His brow damp with sweat sweat Schiller quietly waits for Strauss to say what's on his mind. You need to step in and subsidize Hawker Siddeley without without them. The project is finished Schiller peers through his spectacles at Strauss in shakes his head. I cannot justify that why should German taxpayers support a British company. Can't someone here make the wings instead. Strauss mops his brow the handkerchief no the wings the wings of the single most important and complicated part of any aircraft. No one else. In Europe can match Hawker Italy's expertise the Abbas this project needs them Schiller shakes his head then they can get the French to pay. They want to lead the project. Don't they the French refused to do it. They're already too heavily invested in Concord. But listen this could be good for Germany. Saving the Airbus will protect our aviation industry also also by putting more money and we become equal partners with France. Schiller looks on moved to Strauss. Tries another angle of attack. Remember remember. This project is about so much more than just making aircraft. It's about Europe Ian Unity. It's about bringing. Our nations is closer together and putting the past behind us. It's about Reconciliation Schiller. Softens the horror of the Second World War still haunts haunts the continent the desire to bring Europe together an end. Centuries of bloodshed carries serious weight even when millions of Deutschmark. Seurat steak very well out of range for the funds to be made available later that month that the Paris Airshow Uh Schiller and the French Transport Minister signed the deal that will see. The Airbus turned from a paper plane into an actual aircraft as press photographers capture. The moment the two politicians shake hands and smile. But what they don't realize is they've just signed a declaration nation of commercial war a war that's going to put Europe and America at loggerheads for decades to come on. On the next episode. Boeing super size is air travel and Airbus finally makes a plane that nobody wants..
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"In our new series we're following the battle for air supremacy between the two titans of flight. Airbus and Boeing. It's a dog fight. That pits Europe against America in a quest to dominate a market. Worth one hundred ninety billion dollars a year. It's a business where a single order can dent the balance sheet of an entire nation an industry where world leaders are routinely commandeered as sales reps and with stakes that high the competitions fears and. There's plenty of turbulence ahead for both Boeing and Airbus. This is episode one. Get your wings. It's August nineteen. Fifty five and Boeing President Bill Allen is is hosting a high powered get together on a fancy yacht on Lake Washington in Seattle. His guests are the WHO's who of the US airline industry they've spent the morning enjoying canapes and champagne while watching the Gold Cup speedboat races. But they're really here to see Boeing's first passenger jet since its formation in nineteen sixteen. Bowling's made its name making military bombers but in civil aviation. It remains a minor player. A Minnow next to the Californian market leader Douglas but Allen's hoping the company's first jetliner will change that Boeing's new jet aircraft is called the Dash Eighty. But it'll soon get a new name. The seven zero. Seven the fifty something Boeing chief checks his watch and turns to his guest attention. Everyone okay. It's not going to be long now. I think you're GonNa love this moments later. The prototype seventy seven sheets my just three hundred feet above the water at the controls is Boeing chief. TEST PILOT PILOT TEX Johnston. The guests go wild with Johnson as the Pale yellow jet.
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"L O Y. Now, of course, I a g is the parent of well things like British Airways, I bury a- airlinks, also some low cost carriers viewing and level and they are an all a three twenty family of operators in that in that size class. So for this letter of intent for seven three seven max for two hundred of them in the middle of this was was quite the shocker in. Apparently, it was a shocker to Airbus as well. I think it's really quite stunning that they would co away from their, their major vendor. Airbus and cut a deal with Boeing without even telling Airbus or even giving them an opportunity to, to bid on the deal, which I think tells us that Boeing cave them an incredibly good deal I think right now you know Boeing position where they are, are the week party in the negotiation. So they probably a highly highly discounted these aircraft. And perhaps part of that deal was, you know, we'll go ahead and highly discount these to you. But, you know, you can't be using us as you know, a show here, you can't just go and bid against us with with Airbus. So maybe that's why the deal didn't get brought up to Airbus side. Just imagine the discount was really quite large on these seven three seven. Yeah. The rumors at the show as told to me where that the discount was just phenomenal kind of unheard of sort of discount, because it is really. Unusual for, for an airline to only approach one supplier, Boeing in this case. And especially when you hear fleet is, is with the other with with Airbus. So Airbus hasn't given up, although I'm not sure that there's anything they can do about it. But they, they say that they really, really want to bid on this. But I haven't seen any indications that A G is going to go go in that direction twenty four billions huge. If I were Airbus, I would be hurt. That's just that's quite of a slap in the face from, you know, a major customer. Yeah. One can only imagine that it was just a deal. That was just so good. I mean how, how good does it need to be from Boeing before, before you say, okay, I'm going with that? I'm not even going to bother talking to Airbus. I mean that's just that's just hard to hard to fathom. There's also another in this. Hasn't gotten as much press..
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"Us older planes spirits got new crap can't airbus's but on like they charge you if you bring a bottle of water speaking of airbus's and traveling airbus has partnered with a an aerospace design from called zodiac to develop a flying bunk bed anyway on the surface that sounds a little strange what they wanna do with the bunk beds is put them in the cargo hold i always wanted to sleep in the cargo hold with the dog too pods i'd be all about this on a long flight when you're in a middle seat all you wanna do is get away come on go by a first class ticket that's what they're all about the lay flat seats now all of the international planes have lay flat seats in with this help you if you're on a middle seat budget though i don't think they've announced price the pricing attached to us airbus is building three thirties that'll be delivered in twenty twenty qatar turkish airlines couple of them delta and american just cancelled their orders for three thirties replace them with new boeing seven eighty seven that was pretty interesting that's an aside of something that i saw over the weekend so anyway if you look at the pictures on the airbus airbus a website it looks like a pod hotel kind of two levels of bugs like bump heads nice bookshelves and stool seating areas that sort of thing not like being in first class because no windows it's not clear whether you be able to upgrade to a bunk midflight or if you have to preserve them that's your answer jennifer i'm in the middle seat do i get.