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"agra pena" Discussed on HISTORY This Week
"Particularly fond of mushrooms. So naturally she got a particularly delicious mushroom a lovely looking mushroom and she put poison on it and claudius of course couldn't resist it. Claudius dies murdered biogra- pena though barrett notes. We do have to take the whole mushrooms story with a grain of salt. The sources on roman history tend to be generally hostile towards emperors and that even more hostile towards the powerful women especially their wives. And so i pena is pay to the dhaka's possible terms. It is clear that upon claudius death everything is ready for niro. I repeat had done the groundwork very very well. She had had a careful policy having all the officers of the imperial guard replaced by her favorites. And when claudius death is announced niro becomes the emperor at sixteen. He's seen as this golden boy. The roman senate receives him with open arms. He is after all from the great julia claudia's dynasty related to caesar and. Augustus told the senators that he was willing to be guided by them. And in the way he would rule that he would take the emperor augustus whose night was still revered as his model. And the senate lapped it up but niro's position is still not totally secure. Claudius had another son britannicas. Who was about to come. And the roman sources say that nero decides to have his stepbrother killed and he decides he'll use the same poisoner. Who had helped agra pena murder. Claudius she practiced on various with various poisonings. Non finally got it to work on a pig founded. That's what want us to practice poison so the same day the pay is killed. Niro has the poison brought to a banquet. Tonic is of course. How the food tasting before he drank his wide. It was sipped by the food taster. But the romans would add hot water to their wine. And very cleverly witold niro added poisoned water north to the actual line. According to one account the boy dropped dead at the very first taste but and you might say a theme. We have to be skeptical of some of these stories about niro as well. Retirement was epilepsy. Electic and modern scholars tend to feel that. It's very very likely that in fact he died of an athletic fit. Which again isn't to say. That nero doesn't deserve his reputation for brutality for the moment though he doesn't have any further murderous plans that we can tell his claim to the throne is relatively safe. His mother has made sure of. It was very very skillful politicians. She was able to manipulate those around her but the one person she couldn't control like many mothers before and after i'm sure she couldn't control her teenage son. Niro comes to resent any reminders. That he owes his reign to his mother and about two years into that rain he begins pushing her out of power. He bans her from living in. The palace takes away her personal bodyguards and then he begins to get more and more paranoid that she's plotting against him which may have been true. We'll never know for sure. But he takes the most drastic measures and decides to have her killed two. We're going to know the true reasons. And i'd rather suspect by self that they were probably more psychological than political. I think niro had very serious mother problems as it were. One version of the story goes niro has a special boat built. It's designed to collapse in on itself killing the passengers. He invites pena to visit his estate in naples. He's friendly and sends his mother off voting with a warm goodbye but the collapse mechanism didn't work properly she. She leapt into the sea. I'd say she's swamped. Shore pump issue the very good swimmer. Wendy roe discovered this. He was terrified of what she was going to do with him. And so he sends some loyal soldiers to finish the job onorato. The just before she died. I grew pena presented who womb to very silent and said strike in. This is the spot that borne eero. So strike here first. So he murdered his mother in fifty nine. The responsive romans was to congratulate him nero. Explain to the senate that his mother had been plotting to take over rome. Andre cost the romans had this fear of the powerful woman and so neural remains extremely popular. He's also accused of other murders in those early years. But these are all what you might call intramural. These are all in house murders and the romans would make a distinction between in house murders.
"agra pena" Discussed on HISTORY This Week
"In. All the fire will burn for nine days. It is one of the greatest disasters in the history of realm and in the days and weeks. Afterwards a rumor starts to spread that the emperor nero just stood by and let it happen that he sang some epic poem and played his lyre while the city burnt maybe that he even set the fire himself but today modern scholars tell us. We shouldn't believe those old stories if you look a little closer some of the details. Just don't add up so who was niro the notorious emperor who supposedly fiddled while rome burned. And how did a story that was essentially fake news last for nearly two thousand years if you're looking for the next best thing to invest in try investing in your long term health with forward forward is intelligent medicine with a personal touch. Their doctors are dedicated to catching top killers. Like cancer and heart disease early which could save you. Tens of thousands of dollars in the long run so invest in a doctor. That's invested in you. Visit go forward dot com to learn more about how forward can help you manage your long term health risks for one flat monthly fee. That's go forward dot com. If you're a fan of history. This week i wanna tell you about a podcast. You will love hope through history hosted by pulitzer prize winning historian. Jon meacham explores some of the most historic and trying times in american history and how this nation dealt with the impact of these moments dealing with adversity and finding ways to unify and overcome. It will always be part of our future. The new season of hope through history a documentary podcast presentation from c thirteen originals in association with the history channel written and narrated by me jon meacham features moments in our nation's pass when we faced challenges a country and as a world. Listen and follow season. Two of hope through history available now wherever you get your podcasts for history when he wanted sign up for an extended thirty day free trial of history. Volt where you can stream over. Two thousand documentaries and series from the history channel commercial free on her favorite device plus new videos are added to history vol every week sign up now and explore the greatest stories in history from ancient civilizations to american history modern warfare and more to start your extended thirty day free trial visit history. Volt dot com forward slash podcast. Today the great fire of rome took place almost two thousand years ago but tony barrett who is an emeritus professor of classics from the university of british columbia. He told us this. Ancient disaster came alive for him when he was just a kid by future. Career was determined for me. When i was about twelve years old and i lived in a small mining village in the north of england and i went to the movies to see quo vodka sir the great blockbuster of the time with peter you snuff tray. The emperor nero and i was just blown away by the movie. Quo vardis tells the story of niro's rate including his role in the great fire. Still recall him flames lawyer while the flames were early. In the background dream ally. I could almost go through the movie scene by scene. It made such a vivid impact on that scene in quo. Vadis reflects the popular image of nero the phrase fiddling while rome burns has become an expression unto itself it has gradually evolved to describe someone completely focused on his own interests on his own trivial pursuits rather than on the the problems that he should be giving his attention to but barrett says niro's alleged fiddling during the fire is almost certainly a myth which isn't to say that nero was an amazing ruler. Veera was not competent. Emperor a suspect however the. The accounts of his behavior during the fire was much exaggerated for rhetorical purposes to understand who smeared niro. And why we have to start much earlier and put ourselves in the world of violence and deception in which niro came of age. He's born in the year. Thirty seven eighty. His father isn't not much note. He's just a roman noble but his mother agree. Pena comes from royal blood. Her great grandfather was augustus. The first emperor of realm a ruler people still look to as a paragon of stability. At the time of niro's birth agra pena's brother colella is the emperor and he has a reputation for instability so agree pena season opening to increase her own power. When the euro is two years old agra pena conspires with her lover to try to overthrow curricula. The details aren't clear but it doesn't go well for her. Her lover was put to death. She was forced to walk into rome. Carrying the ashes of her dead lover in an urn and then she was sent out into exile. The young nero finds himself separated from his mother. Then his father dies and leaves him with an aunt. She raised him. It didn't do her much good because eventually put to death as he did the other people. Es niro will eventually get his own reputation for brutality perhaps influenced by growing up around so much murder and death. Caligula is eventually assassinated by his royal guard. He's replaced by the emperor. Claudius who goes through three wives one of them is executed for conspiring against him and claudius is his. Fourth wife is agra pena he lets her return from exile and he adopts her son on the picture. We have is from that point on occupied. I work night and day to promote the potential career son nero. This is something of a cliche. A in the roman world of the powerfully ambitious mother course roman women were not allowed to have an official and direct part in politics. They weren't allowed to hold office. So if they were to have power and influence superbeets through their husbands or through the sons. Of course when it comes to agra pena's plans for her son there is an obstacle claudius still emperor and very much alive so it fifty four appeanas set about to murder..
"agra pena" Discussed on A.D. History Podcast
"And the rewards that await to you by exploring the eighty history podcast on patriotic. See the link and the description. Now back to poland patrick and thank you anna and pula. Did you know the very own anna domini. She's got her own china now and i. It's quite unique. Say that and of course has been a part of the show from the very beginning an incredibly talented individual working in entertainment and hearing her other work but especially the ones for us. I mean we couldn't have asked for a better anna domini at any time and something we wanna plug because we care about anna and she's part of the show as she's actually started. A new youtube channel called stevie says go into youtube. If youtube your thing or you're listening to it on youtube right now you can pause real quick type in the term. Stevie says s. t. v. e. space s. a. y. s. And give her a watch and give her a subscribe. She is incredibly talented. It's very clear that she's put a great deal of effort into it and you will not be disappointed. She has truly ben a true professional. Certainly for eighty history. And you guys go give a watch. Give subscribe and you will not be disappointed. So anna godspeed bravo zulu. Yes thank you. Very much anna on pula. We're now hitting a to a different part of the empire which is also splintering off in. Its own way over in google and it's gallic empire. Well if you listen to our last episode you know what the segment is going to be about. However if you have not heard it most definitely go back and listen. It'll make a lot more sense but if you aren't we are now getting into exactly how the gallic empire operated. How posthumous lead. And the fate of this gran- schism that has occurred in roman gaul. And with that. I think it is best to set the scene. We are once again in two sixty. Ad in colonia agra and posthumous has received orders from salinas. Who is caesar era apparent to galliano's the current emperor and whose father is currently in sausage in captivity. And valerian being the only roman emperor to ever be taken alive in battle at this. Point in colonia agra pena posthumus received orders from selena's. He was told to march his troops to colonia agra pena because salinas wants to make sure that the belongings that were stolen from roman citizens that were in northern italy that fell victim to a german raiding party which pasta misha's troops repelled and basically took those belongings back and then posthumous goes on to share that with the troops. It doesn't sit well to decision makers and rome not at all and so they give an order. March your troops to colonia agra pena where your troops will relinquish this property of the roman citizens. It was originally taken from and this puts posthumous and a very difficult position. Because we know how insubordinate the roman military has become how transactional they are and assessing their fortunes. And when they get their posthumous goes again before his troops and says are my hands tied. I don't agree with this. But i don't know what to do. Well as troops did and it was at that time and two sixty. Ad in colonia agra pena where the gallic empire was truly born. once selena's arrives in colonia agra pena and faces and meets posthumous and his troops. He and his coterie are murdered. And colonia agra peanut itself. His actually sacked by posthumous army. And with this great schism with so many forces and so many resources though by no means unlimited certainly ones that have absolutely strategic limitations in terms of what posthumous can achieve the a historical trend here as we mentioned in our prior episode. is that posthumous. Doesn't do the one thing that so many of his predecessors in the same position have done especially after julius..
"agra pena" Discussed on A.D. History Podcast
"What we consider about northern italy today and they take in. The case of posthumous. Obviously liberates all of those belongings and then proceeds to share them with his troops. Which is kinda what you do. But this did not sit well with the decision makers in rome specifically because the things that they were liberating or most certainly property of roman citizens at the germans had taken themselves And this is where we come back to. Where we started. He receives the fateful order by sallis. Who is caesar an era parent to galliano's that they expect the budi that he shared with his troops to be returned and as we started out in the beginning. Exactly if you have any sense of self preservation when exactly are. The chances posthumous was going to go and do that. All we had to do is do a few decades of the third century to know what's going to happen exactly and so this doesn't sit well with him. And of course he is told to marches troops to colonia agra pena where his troops will then forfeit this l. begotten booty and indeed. He marches them there but when he gets there as we start at the beginning he tells his troops. I do not agree with this order. I do not agree. with us. order i condemn the bastards. Who gave it to us. And so what ever. Is it possible that we can do to fix this. And we.
"agra pena" Discussed on The Art Newspaper Weekly
"We don't recognize set. We have no clue what goes on. In boris johnson's flat that he shares with carrie. We think we do. And we draw connections. We say it's because carrie was worried about the dog that and we sort of know what we're doing but the story has a kind of as a strange truth volley for switches not about accuracy but about some version that we bought to tell and it grows in the telling. And that's very very much like what you find in the you gently merger about repeat in a collapsible boat could come from roman drama. Actually an tacitus. He's telling it in the service of what he believes to be a high a truce. How how is imperial rule corrupt with what. How'd you envisage the corruption imperial rule and we. We rather naively take it. As if somehow we knew well poisoning living in the roman world in a society that cannot tell poisoning from peritonitis. But you can over dna. It can be a natural illness. It can be a nasty shot of some awful toxin but you can see that the inferences the connections that you want to show. Why did he die. Well let me tell you at cetera et cetera. What took about poisoning. I wanted to talk about agripain because again in s you say about how one of the great lost sources of the raymond period is her autobiography. She's she comes across a bit from the exhibition at not least because there are some extraordinary works of art that depict her as an a really genuine extraordinary figure and if you read between the sources she so instrumental in niro coming to the throne she just. She's a strong woman of course despised by a misogynistic culture. Rotating right so tell us tell us what you were interpretative magazine. She does come over as a strong woman. And of course we roll the flip interpretation of the sources because roman writers treat. Strong women is bad. We home in. They are strong woman here now. I find it really really hot to get a handle on echo pena. you know. she's she's supposed to have murdered. The emperor. Claudius with the famous dishes poisoned mushrooms in order to slip her some near onto the throne. She's supposed to have had an incestuous relationship with niro he's supposed to got. Fed up with mum has failed attempt in the boat followed by successful attempt sending the boys in and when i first started out doing moment history and i was very much of the flipping school. The pena's influence is being decried. But come on guys. Let's let's see a powerful woman here. And now i still have a faint hopes at. That's the case that there are within monarchy's we know that the old tired cliche of the power behind the throne isn't always wrong. So challenge anybody to say. Agra pena had no influence a tool but there is still this feeling that in the roman imperial cold whereas roman historian themselves complain. You don't really know what happened in and we're not dinner when not whether planning was back. In the days of the free republic. We sued the discussions of the senate. But now it's behind closed due. Well okay so now. It's behind closed doors..
"agra pena" Discussed on Woman's Hour
"Is the way where we get the insular of course and making sure that they're not clad in wood but kaden stone so that he makes the city safer improves. Things like sanitation. The robots built at campus martius. Things like that and he also builds himself a massive great big new palace. The domus area the golden house and when tacitus writes about this program of works he says and i quote in parts of rome unfilled by narrows new palace. It just took us holyoke for the historian. I mean he's just incredibly bitchy so when tacitus tells us anything about near. You have to take it with a pinch of salt. 'cause tostes very very pleased to tell you the beginning his annals that he's going to write senate era at studio without anger or partisanship is absolute nonsense. You would search long and hard finding more angry and story so he could be writing for a newspaper then or tabloid newspaper at the time. Absolutely and if you think that spot then try suetonius have to say but only if you have relatively strong summit for sex goggles because that's basically what tony lights. Oh come on. let's let's talk about. Let's talk about some of the women in his life. Then as woman's let's start with his mother so narrow is a really interesting and very unusually i think he is defined by the sister and by the women who surround him so nero becomes effort because his mother agra pena younger is a women of incredible power and influence now as pasta. Suetonius might tell it. Machiavellian monstrous poisoning the portability. Who to him. She was a fourth wife with a big playoff mushrooms. I think i still don't eat the now as you know this. You've seen me. I sean mushroom. And so she. She maneuvers her son narrow to become the successor to claudius which is no mean feat given that claudius has his own style britannic named for us overseas claudius had successfully invaded britain or at least two soldiers had come here. That was which i imagine. Scared the bejesus out of our ancestors because we would have been like what is that so much bigger than a goat's i've never seen such big and so i'm aggravated is enormously powerful if we look at coins and the museum exhibition has some fantastic examples. This an arias. A golden coin minted in rome at the end of this range shows opinion on the coin..
"agra pena" Discussed on Everything Everywhere Daily
"He was awarded what was called a pro consular imperium, which was a wide ranging authority and immunity from prosecution and also Tribune Nica pretentious which meant that his body was held sacrosanct. Eventually AGRIPPA was made a member of the family. His third wife was Augusta's daughter. With whom he had several children. In thousand three BC. Was Ill and was thought he was going to die the only other person who could keep the empire together was a grip Augusta's gave his signet ring to a grip in case he was to pass away as a symbol of transferring power. AGRIPPA actually did not survive Augusta's as it turns out Augusta's would live a long life and a grip would die in his early fifties while on campaign trying to subdue the area around the Upper Danube. While the group, it never became an emperor. His descendants did through his daughter Agra Pena, the elder from his marriage with Julia. Grandfather of the Emperor Colella and great grandfather of Emperor Nero. Probably the best preserved Roman building in the world is the Pantheon in Rome. Originally built by grip on the anniversary of his victory at the battle of axiom. visit it. You'll see written in large letters on the facade of the building the following. AGRIPPA L F 'CAUSE TETRA FUCK EAT Once you translate the Latin and the abbreviations and the Romans loved use abbreviations. It reads Marcus AGRIPPA son of Lucius built this when he was consul for the third time. Even though rebuilt and renovated by subsequent emperors, the name agrippa remained the most prominent one on the building. If you look back a grip career was really amazing. He was incredible general diplomat, civil engineer geographer and a leader, and at no point is there any evidence that agrippa suffered any jealousy towards Augusta's or that he ever tried to serpent or take control? If Augusta's is the greatest emperor in Rome's history. It's only because he had the best number two by his side. Executive, producer of everything everywhere. Daily is James Makhala. Today's listen to review comes from none one, two, three, two, one in Canada they right. Gary has always been a great inspiration for travelers over the years and his new podcast is equally inspiring for the curious his ability to come up with such a wide range of unique and fascinating stories never ceases to amaze me. Thank you very much none one, two, three, two, one, and all of you who listen remember if you leave a five star review over on Apple podcasts I'll read a review on the air..
"agra pena" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"Singers Metropolitan Opera mezzo soprano Kate Lindsey it's a set of three seldom heard eighteen century cantatas by Handel Haydn and Alex Sandro Scarlatti all on the lugubrious theme of lost love the CD is called Arianna in each of the pieces tells the story of our E. Adeni Arianna in Italian she was the princess from Crete who fell in love with the Greek hero Theseus she helped him find his way out of the labyrinth after he slew the minotaur by giving him a ball of thread so that he could retrace his steps through the maze Theseus took her to the island of naxals but abandoned her there eventually the god Dionysus rescued her and turned her into a constellation in the twentieth century this was the subject of recharge Strauss's famous opera R. Ianni alpha knocks those but it was a subject that had already interested composers over three hundred years earlier handle like bar occasionally recycled his own music the first aria in the handle cantata vacate Lindsay sings on this recording is actually the same music for Handel aria she sang just this past season at the met she played a very kinky young Nero and handles viciously satirical opera Agra Pena which was composed around the same time as the cantata in the opera Nero's ruthlessly cynical mother Agra Pena will stop at nothing to make him emperor in one scene she's gotten Nero to attract followers by throwing money at them it's the very same music down to the memorable introduction that.
"agra pena" Discussed on A.D. History Podcast
"Yes I definitely do but before that. Let's cue up to eighty history podcasts. Round rule what a- valley events in the context they occurred to you over the span of recorded history the way it was recorded its methodology and the facts that are important have changed immensely how we view history today is not necessarily how we viewed it fifty years ago three nothing in history was inevitable and for history and the past is like a different country as we go into today and the big reason why we have Kristin here is in the case of forty one eight hundred fifty fifty eight day. This is where our story begins and it begins with one of the most infamous figures in the last two thousand years of history. A and that figures name is Julius. Caesar Germanacos better known as Kalibbala Kalibbala. But I think it's important to set the scene it's forty one. AD in the Palatine hills the very place where the Roman imperial palaces located to this day it is the late morning and click. It is coming back from the theater her and he is slightly hungover and as he's coming back from the theater he decides that he needs to take a bath to freshen up where on his way. He is cornered and brutally beaten to death by his PRAETORIAN guard a portion Russian of the military that is so elite that they're one job is to protect the emperor and indeed in this case they have taken it upon themselves to murder murder him as well and oddly enough guys this one piece of history that I had just mentioned too is the part that historians oddly oddly enough no the best about colleague Ula leg despite how infamous he is is truly a leading figure in trying to understand him given the fallout from this successful assassination but for Colella. His story starts many years. There's before L'Aquila of course was born guys Julius Caesar Augustus Germanic s and he was the son. One of the famed dramatic and Agra peanut he was one of nine children and roughly one of the five that managed to live into adulthood and in his early life. The actually spent most of that time with his mother and father on campaign on the Rhine because Germanic hisses. This is first major job and promotion. Came from Augusta's after thirteen ad to be commander of all the legions on the German German frontier as it were Jurmala if you will. And when he is there is mother Agra Pena as the Camp Taylor killer outfit him with a small legionnaires kit so they have them walking around like a uniform soldier albeit one eighth the size use and that includes the famous battle sandals that lit Roman legions are known to wear known as colleague Yele and so his name is Caligula better known and translated into English as booty kipnes. That's right when you say emperor Geula you're actually saying Emperor Budi kipnes. It would absolutely blow him over over with embarrassment to know that history now knows him. Best buy that childish and small nickname. I have to say that Budi Kins is my favorite translation of curricula can also translate to boot skins or you know small boot but Up Budi kipnes definitely captures the wrath and severity of Caligula. Rain when you say kind of creates such an ominous contrast contrast compared to who this guy actually was that he would be given such a childish. Nickname is it's kind of like there was a modern Tamburlaine knowing him as crocks assistant. I mean that's the kind of thing that we're talking about here. And so naturally this. This young Regula is surrounded by violence at a young age of course Roman Society at that time most celebrated these kind of things but his upbringing. Get Stranger from there because obviously as we talked about a couple club back Patrick his father and up getting what many believe is murdered and that there are some very important and high ranking people. Oh that might have made that possible. And so in growing up after his father is supposedly murdered out in Syria. He lived with his mother again with his brothers and two sisters and as they start growing older after their father is dead. His mother begins falling out with Tiberius. In the imperial a palace for a number of things one is Tiberius. Didn't want her to get remarried. Because he was afraid that anybody that would marry her would end up being a a threat to him which is not entirely a baseless concern given the fact that she is the granddaughter of Gustis and I it really goes from. They're in a also. In addition the fact. You have to imagine that Agra Pena had a great deal of animosity for the fact that Tiberius and Livia which which would be dramatic is's grandmother and this case would also be great. Grandmother doesn't allow for a true WHO official state funeral. When Germanic kisses ashes come back and you also have to imagine agrippa probably thought Tiberius was in some way way involved in all of this and so between nineteen eighty? That he has that you're mattis was knocked off. He goes brought through a series of events where he's briefly living with his mom where he then goes on to live for a time with his great grandmother Livia and then onto with his grandmother and Tonia minor and during this time I am Tiberius is one by one getting rid of his immediate idiot family. He ends up banishing Agra Pena to a remote Italian island where she ultimately dies due to starvation avation in addition to that one of his brothers also banished in the same manner and dies either that way or by suicide and one other ends up getting in prison and dies there due to trumped up treason charges get for some reason. Caligula is not a victim victim in fact at nineteen or twenty years old. He is invited to join Tiberius to live with him on Capri because at this point. And we've alluded to this previously Patrick where Tiberius at some point because he's such an odd character and such a bad politician anyway eventually get sick sick of Rome altogether and he decides that you know. I'm going to rule by proxy from Capri and depending on who you believe whether it be Suetonius tacitus a went there and not just to escape Rome. But to holy indulge himself. In just about everything you can imagine to the point that even for an explicit rated podcast. We ain't go in there. You can look it up entirely on your own. We're we're cool with that outcome. Constantly amazed by how little impetus various wanted to be emperor. It really does well. Mine doesn't kristen it does. He's definitely a he's a dark and brooding figure he is really not interested in the glamour. Kammer of being an autocrat. So it's a testament to the state of the autocracy even with Tiberius the second emperor or that even in ruling by proxy the whole thing didn't come crumbling down and that's one of the strange parts about all this when Is brought there. He lives was there for six years. And it's entirely possible. And this is largely Howitt's viewed is that he was brought there to be essentially bread for the imperial succession. And that's a mechanism at this point in Rome that they still haven't figured out because at this point the whole concept of Emperor Emperor isn't still not a thing that doesn't come around to the beginning of the second century as we've mentioned multiple times before and so it's kind of this bundle of personal powers that very difficult to formalize I'm live and pass on and it's still rather new. Oh he spent six years there and if he is being bred for the imperial role so be it but in terms of his actual time there. This is where we start getting some interesting insights on the the evolving psychological nature and profile of who Click Ula was and that's really where the crux of this segment and our talk about. Colella today is because history in this particular sense you most certainly finally have his enemies more or less writing the history because they managed to knock him off they obviously had reason to get rid of him and and then on top of that they try to systematically remove him from history and given how infamously he he is was he mad. Bad add dangerous to know. Is this an accurate representation. That when I was beginning to mold the segment I began kinda falling back into my political scientists mode and I started thinking about a gentleman whose name is Dr Gerald Post. And he's done a great deal of work for the United States in terms of creating eating psychological profiles for other world leaders specifically individuals that we don't have that much access to people like say Kim Jong UN and in this way Click Ula is not terribly dissimilar. Yes it's two thousand years ago but our access into good information on them personally due to lack of general accessibility in some ways it can very much. Who's the same challenge? Even though they are alive and Kalibbala is two thousand years dead. And so what we're going to do is we're going to begin. Generating based on the various conditions and considerations her buildings such a modern profile vile and. See if we can get a better understanding of Libya love the man how he thought was indeed there some form of mental illness involved old or has history entirely overblown the subject and figure entirely from a philosophy of medicine point of view. The something also called retroactive diagnosis loose. It's a term loosely. Used and we're going to to see if he kinda fits into any category of Mental Disorders Syndrome. I used the word syndrome specifically because it's really impossible to make any sort of diagnosis. We have no interaction with the patient. And as Paul mentioned it's over two thousand years ago so we can only go off of really secondary sources. There's a dearth of primary sources. I believe there's really only one one that they have at least that the historical record has from Filo talking about the plight of the Jews of Alexandria And we can touch base on that a little bit more as we dig deeper so. There's no personal diaries. There's no extensive letter writing waiting for us to analyze. We're going to just look at what we do. Have and see what we can find. Yeah absolutely and of course you know. We're always looking Patrick. And I this is our. This is our common struggle for you and I- Patrick. It's just if if we can if we can ever sympathize with sisyphus and all of this and that is the constant striving to find some sort of contemporaneous firsthand account because that's the gold standard. Obviously there's no truth thing as pure objectivity everything is a subject of experience when it comes to memory analyzing events but in this case it's particularly difficult Colt but the first thing that I think is really most interesting when it comes to Colella and this is something that sheds a much greater light on the imperial situation in and layout as it exists then and going forward during his time on Capri with Tiberius. Apparently he we learned very quickly to always shield the outside world from seeing any sort of emotion regardless of what was was happening and Mary Beard tells US Great Anecdote. Did they really describes what we're talking about here. Where you have this proper imperial period princess and and they're all sitting down to a meal together? Her brother to her right just dropped dead and his food and what does she we do. She keeps on eating as if nothing happened. That is the kind of Aeronautica and self self control and the ability to completely play almost impossibly close to the vest in that level of the power our dynamics that exist in the imperial setting as we understand it. And there's interesting. Would I would say probably early apocryphal quote from Tiberius when he was referring to Kalibbala and it goes roughly something like this. The world will scorn the you know the venomous venomous serpent that. I'm going to unleash.
"agra pena" Discussed on A.D. History Podcast
"You've been busy. I happy busy. POUSSIN's loves time. We spoke I being to flanker and boy that was dozen experience. Koreans has you know I'd say at the top pay. Thank you so much again. The cost out we'll hosted murphy up in Sri Lanka member checking Focused out NAPA so so just thinking of you in work it out together already and I'm just in the literally with my feet up with like the Dow drink you buy hot work look at anything like anything in life especially when you're doing something special something worth doing. It's always a team effort so while while I took get on my back this time you would just as quickly and as well take it on yours but yeah tell us a little bit about your trip. It was so fascinated fascinated as much to talk about but it was really interesting if you want to go somewhere and see as much as possible in a small area Gutu anchor in two and a half weeks. We saw beaches mountains not too much desert SHRUB. Land Fake Django Everything's there gopher if a deep history guy for amazing animals we ellison just on the side of the road is we re driving up to look the other elephant side of the road. It was incredible. Someone was is having a picnic on the side of the road. I don't know why clearly they have on elephant compel us and this elephant is easing dislike half finish picnic. It was just finishing being off. It was really just like wow and because we were told on the Web Google into a nature park to look for elephants and we were told on the way up. Oh Oh keeping out you might see some in the distance we in this Jeep and A. Hey my girlfriend. Golf she's an. I'm looking off in the distance from look for an elephant. Auden see one looking front of me and it's just them. Oh I was looking too far away. This elephants right here but yeah. That's just a tiny glimpse of what I got up to over that it was up to incredible recommend everyone go especially now at the moment in recent months shrank winfrey some issues. She's at the table bombings. AVISTA and the country still trying to pick up from where it was and tourists aren't going there so it's a safe country to go to do. Just please give them a chance because struggling there the moment just fall in the though I do have one question because there's only so much that one can say in a brief period of time with with an experience as as incredible as your own and just in terms of the general experience. What do what take away? Would you want our listeners to have for those who have not travelled to Sri Lanka. Do be afraid I would say is the best example. especially if you're from somewhere like England hate using the whole like developing nation. A hail these terms I well too. I like those the if you're from somewhere like England or the United States don't be afraid is definitely the most different Paul Dwelt. I've ever been to socially economically. It's it's very different. Those things better worse is just different to even like. When I went to Japan Tokyo might seem nuts? But fundamentally just New York sinks places is a completely different lifestyle happening there and be scared of you. Don't think oh I'm not doing that. Because it's not how I do in England. Just go enjoy enjoyed royd. That's enough well. Not only have you been out. And about backpacking off the southern tip of India But during that time as well I was contacted by a pair of hosts who also do a fellow history. podcast called potting thing through time. They describe themselves as a historical variety. Show but what. They really specialize in this thing. I found very appealing. Is they focus on lesser known history and sometimes it can be downright obscure depending on the audience in question and so when they reached out to the invitation. listable Patrick and myself but of course Patrick was out and about and so I was here and they basically said feel free to join us on a topic of your choice choice which I very gladly accepted and it was a deep dive and when I mean deep deep deep dive we're talking two and a half hours here Going into into the Soviet Union's Foreign Policy during the nineteen thirties and the early nineteen forty s which of course would include the all important yet yet seldom properly covered Molotov ribbentrop pact. which many respects was the final piece that allowed Hitler to plunge Europe into war by invading Poland because he is at the very least guaranteed that that Stalin would not interfere as an adversary in addition to that we also talked about the early Soviet? Oh via period Stalinism in addition to Stalin himself a little bit about Hitler and just their riot writing the Nazi Tiger prior to the invasion of the Soviet Union in June nineteen. Forty one. What we call today the eastern front with the Soviets then most Russians now referred to as the Great Patriotic Attic war? What was that cost cooed? potting through time He. Oh D. D. I n. g. through time it was a clever name. His clever name. Yeah really good really good. You'd mentioned it already. So bad she meant was his Co.. No I'm really upsetting to join. I did listen to bit too. I haven't listened to Europe so do plan on a sound really interesting i. We don't want to actually have a D- d- myself over the focus. Considering you and I share a fondness for Russian and Soviet history I definitely think it is something thing you patrick will appreciate in particular so often through time deep dive into all that very interesting Soviet outlook and world and they're very very interesting unique and pivotal role on how events unfolded leading to and including the greatest military eric conflict in human history. So that's a plug okay. But today as far as getting into the meat and bones of our operation today we are covering twenty eight to thirty ad and in my case. There's a great deal. It happens in this but before we we begin we will start out by giving are all important and now entirely obligatory eighty history podcast ground rules. Also what a valley events in the context they occurred to over the span of recorded history. The way it was recorded. Its methodology and the facts that are important important have changed immensely. How we view history today is not necessarily how we viewed it fifty years ago? Three nothing in history was inevitable and for uh history and the past is like eight different country in his many pocos pool to have ground rules unique feature for us it it certainly is but it works. It works where it does seem differently works so today I'm going to lead off and we're going to be discussing a rather interesting wresting character one. who was a legend in his own time and he was treated as such indeed? We are going to be talking about the Roman that was known as Germanacos the very promising role model figure for Romans of his time and after and and the fact that his death in his early thirties was both untimely and by some believed to be murder most foul. Don't I don't know yeah yet today. We're going to be doing a little bit of an Agatha Christie whodunit so Germanic the kiss was born in fifteen BC and though they're not scholars are not entirely sure of his actual given name. It was likely that he was born. Nero Claudius druce. His father was Niro also Nero. Claudius truce's and his mother was Antonio Minor his paternal turnover grandmother was Livia. Who was the second wife of one we know as print caps or later emperor? Augustus also known as Octavian is in fact one of his biological grandfather as well is the late Mark Antony which uh of course was so important in our last episode of course and when it comes to his father druce drew says younger brother was the one we know now as the Emperor Tiberius. They were a very close pair and when Livia divorce their biological Michael Father and married Augusta. Caesar Augustus ended up adopting both as his own sons and as I mentioned drew assist and Tiberius were very close so much so that when drew says died quite young on the battlefield ended up dying of injuries due due to being thrown off a horse in those last thirty days of his life Tiberius basically took off from Rome with great haste to be with his brother at his bedside and when druce died Augusta's very strongly requested that Tiberius adopt this young a young Germanacos as his own son and it creates a very close family tie between the both of them. Naturally he loses. Is this father at a young age. He ends up really catching the eye of his step grandfather. Augusta's Augusta's favourite him for a great many reasons but some even really believed that in a way he Augusta's may have been seeing a apart of himself. In this young Germanic he even had a desire to make him his direct heir to succeed him in this print caps for citizen because they didn't go by emperor until the beginning of the second century as we mentioned in the previous episode. But that didn't end up happening. What ended up happening is Libya which would be dramatic as his grandmother very very heavily campaigned with Augusta's and this is interesting because Libya was very much an honored console for Augusta's in a way that very very few other Roman Mun wives of politicians were so she wanted to make sure that Tiberius at the end of the day would take the throne and and certainly he was named in in Augusta says will as the chief beneficiary of his estate and even though Germanacos is not the direct air? He certainly wants Germanacos to be the direct air and line after Tiberius. The only problem is he didn't actually formalize this agreement but the fact of the matter is when he had had his grandma step grandfather Augustus as essentially a benefactor. It did a great deal for his is professional life. It wasn't simply the fact that we're was nepotism. This is that rare combination of nepotism in addition to somebody who is genuinely extremely Tarim only capable and in fact in many ways beloved so when we're looking at character like this it's very very difficult to Parse the man from the legend especially especially one as I said he was a legend living in his own time being this great role model for embodying the best of all of these Roman characteristics and he was celebrated for both his successes on the battlefield and his behavior and character was also kind of unusual as well yes he was stoic but he wasn't any any way pretentious or elitist he was known for being able to and would converse with the Romans of any strata of that very segmented society by class is which in and of itself is quite unusual. He was very loyal he was extremely self effacing and he showed bravery in all situations even outside of the battlefield field and he ended up marrying a woman. By the name of Agra peanut. This is one of Augusta's match making endeavors one of wish that we are familiar with the last episode when he forced to divorce his first wife whom he loved and marry his daughter Yulia and it was a match made in hell as we no and in fact Yulia and Tiberius Tiberius was not her first husband in fact our first husband was marcus AGRIPPA. which was Augustus closest closest in chief military ally and they had a daughter? By the name of Agra Pena who was in fact matched with Germanic as an unlikely other matchmaking endeavors of Augustus. This one really worked out believe it or not. It actually worked out. They really really care for each other so much. So in fact Agra Pena would actually actually go with Germanacos on campaign and they would usually bring their youngest child with them as well. They ended up having nine children together. Five or six ended up surviving into adulthood. I believe they lost several shortly after birth. Which of course? It is not uncommon in fact one of those children and the one who turned out to be the most infamous was the one we know today as Caligula so he was very unusual in this way on top of that he also had a great ability to derive loyalty realty from those who are under his command. He was very not only personally brave but he was very much one to lead from the front lead by example which as far as I'm concerned as the only kind kind of leadership that really matters regardless of the task at hand and so this all very very much factors into the legend of dramatic in addition to what he was known for in regards to his great sense of personal justice and fairness regardless of whom he was dealing with it was really quite exceptional and led to. Oh how Romans revered him. Over time of you saying Agatha Christie in a novel and just from the description of Germanacos and his legend can only seed. Indeed this because it's always in the novels is the best person who dies like he was friends of everyone. Everyone cared for his lovely tool that. It's like perfect perfect to write. That really happening. It's just making me chuck notice that two words about that observation slam dunk the perfect murder victim. He's he's asking to be moded. Oh goodness yes. It was eventually going to get into. Somebody's way. Did you have let one day before retirement when he died. Elliott has whoa Oh if only he had reached retirement and only had reached retirement. So the other other interesting way to think about this couple Germanic Germanacos Niagara Pena. They both were essentially celebrities. The best way to envisage them if you WANNA Kinda put it in a modern way that the listeners can visualize allies imagine the duke and Duchess of Cambridge. So William Windsor and Kate except they actually have have executive power they very much factor in to the the greater power struggle and on top of that and this is where things definitely differ..
"agra pena" Discussed on WBZ NewsRadio 1030
"The time. I'm not an expert. I'm a fan of buff. Like one or two civil war. And I really I like Egyptian and I like Greek and Roman history as well. So we've been talking about the overlap and how the Romans kind of got tired of the pesky Greeks and decided we need to take care of business and rule them. Can you talk about the leader's that are in places that happened and then kind of on your own go through the, the, the early leaders, Julius Caesar, and then the emperor's that we get up to colleague you? Right. Who small topic the first, you can cover that. And I don't know twenty minutes. That'd be great. Yeah. I big name we come to, I guess, is Julius Caesar correct. And so what was going on when was that? And what was going on with Greece at the time? This is kind of in your wheelhouse race. So Julius Caesar's really sort of in his heyday in the fifties, two forty? S. B. C E. And during that time Greece is really a theater of war in the nineties, eighties, BBC this famous Roman. General Salah had gone in and sacked Athens iming really done a number on that part of Greece and it continued to be sort of the place where Roman generals played out there problems with one another. So Caesar's assassins, get sort of chased into that part of the world axiom as we said. But after this. They run away where they go. Yeah. They don't go out into the desert of the west. They instead they go to Greece. Yeah. I mean, they sort of go Terex northwest area. And then, of course, acting as we mentioned is this big naval battle future, emperor Augustus, and his former best e and lover Marc Antony and Cleopatra. Can you believe that whole thing that's, that's its own sort of our over the, the murderer of Julius Caesar can you talk about that, because that's super interesting? And where it took place that took place right in the form. Part of it took place. They, they set him on fire buried him in the forum something, they have this take his body. Ends up being this big memorial, which people still leave flowers today sometimes in the Roman forum. Yeah. I mean, there are lots of stories that surround Julius Caesar's death, basically, the Senator got angry with him and they all stabbed him once. Short version, right? Yeah. And supposedly as he's dying. I mean you get Shakespeare's kind of famous line of, and you Brutus in the lake, and that I mean, there's supposedly he actually would have said it in Greek according to psalm. Right. So it has been a technology like and you child, which gives you an idea of sort of, how Greek the Roman world was be actually Caesar dies. And then there's this kind of struggle to see who's going to emerge as the next kind of major leader of Rome, and Rome's. Not really an empire yet. It's like a an adolescent boy strong, but really not organized enough to be considered an empire, and it's only under Caesar Augustus that takes place. Yes. So for the past sort of one hundred years, Rome has been led by kind of strong, these generals that had a big following amongst their soldiers. And in some ways the early emperors aren't much different but they start to sort of institutionalize this idea of one man rule. An Augusta s- is formerly known as TV in is kind of the first to really emerge as the sole ruler of the Roman state, but it's not until later on that you really get. Used to the idea of empire in the Roman world is not like one day, sort of Augusta's woke up and everyone was like your emperor. It took many, many years for people to come to terms with this. So Caesar Augustus was kind of nephew of Julius Caesar, and you, you grew up out in the sticks his father had died. And at some point he did something that please Tzanko and his uncle said, you know, what come to Rome, and he taught him in the ways of leadership, and he kept catching breaks and did a good job and became the bus is he wasn't opted as the air did the did not have any other heirs? Or do you like Octavian better? You can say, I don't know. I don't there is no one at the moment that was clearly okay in line before him. He was kind of the nearest male relative was an obvious choice and he hadn't really distinguished himself all that much before the adoption. It was really later after Caesar's death that he emerged as kind of befitting the role that he was suddenly in so you acid forty years, he was, which is airing long, long time. He was a very good politician. What happened to him? He lived a full national natural causes. Yeah. He had an issue that he kept outliving his heirs. He kept pointing people's to succeed them, and then he would live longer than them. And eventually, he kind of ended up with the air that he didn't want, which was Tiberius, who became the second emperor, and Tiberius didn't take to being the leader of the Roman state in the same way that Augusta's had Augusta's was very good at sort of currying people's favor without them. Bad about it. Whereas Tiberius didn't like all the sort of pageantry that this involved grumpy. And he wasn't really a natural leader lasted twenty two years, though. He removed himself went in sort of hit on an island for a good part of the end of his reign. And he made Kalita go stay with him on this island. Yes, as a kid. Yes. Well, he got rid of all of his family, was, what was the island was right? Right off Sorrento Capri. It's a beautiful island, gorgeous blue waters, and as I understand, it Tiberius was kind of debauched out there and Colella head to see all this stuff. Yes, clearly had an interesting childhood. He was born with the Roman army. His father was a major Roman general and I love his name dramatic dramatic us. Yeah. And so clinical, his mother Agra Pino address him up as a little soldier, and that's where we actually get the name Clegg ULA from means little boots. He's sort of more generally known in the sources guy is Caesar. And his, his family has a sort of interesting role to play because they are beloved by the Roman people in, in a lot of ways. People wanted his father Monica's to succeed Augusta's. Or everybody loved. Right. And so instead, Tiberius ends up a docking girl, Monica. But Kerr Monica's ends up dead as do a lot of people at this point in time. And it's thought that maybe Tiberius was sort of behind it. So sort of step one for young boy is Tiberius may be killing his father, okay, soon. His mother is also kind of caught up in intrigue and extra failed. Yes, agr-. She later, went on to become the wife of Claudius. She died. There are two different Agra peanuts. There's Agra Pena, the elder is the mother in this case. And there's Agra peanut the younger viewing the mother of with, with Claudius. Yeah. Okay. So you have now you can be. We'll have twelve solid minutes to bear down on connect. You just like we planned, and it's going to be beautiful. He didn't last that long only three years and he's famous for being. Well, he's famous and you're going to say why coming up on WBZ. You recognize my voice. Jay talking. Z NewsRadio ten thirty. Reads very shits biggest shed dealer in New England. Not us home improvement stores. They've got parking lot sheds. They've got everything. The one I go to even birds that live in the store serious, they're flying around how we going to top that we had to go out and buy a bird sound effect. Dating things scare people to death didn't work, but come to find out didn't need it because we have one thing. The home improvement store doesn't have we have the reeds very shed no fall apart. 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"agra pena" Discussed on Aaron Mahnke's Cabinet of Curiosities
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When you do they're going to ask you how you heard about fracture. So don't forget to tell them that cabinet of curiosities that you enjoy that discount today. That's fracture me dot com slash curious. Cities. Name was look who STA and she was born in Gaul an area known today as present day France during the Roman empire in the first century, her origins are a mystery. It was suspected she was a peasant but one who had developed a green thumb of sorts not for crops, though, she didn't care much for growing roses either. She went for something with a little more kick. Lucid discovered that if she mixed fun guy deadly Nightshade and other types of plants and even blood, she could create something toxic something poisonous. She started out by testing her various potions on animals, she found then adjusted the ratios for maximum potency. Her only problem was her location. There just wasn't a call for a professional poisoner out in the countryside. Where people were more concerned with getting by then casting vengeance upon their enemies. So she took her services where she knew they'd be in demand. The city namely Rome jock full of intrigue and political backstabbing. Lakota fancied herself an entrepreneur and saw an opportunity to help the wealthiest Roman influencers take each other out without anyone knowing oftentimes her assassinations looked like run of the mill heart attacks enemies of emperor Claudius fell to the ground clutching their chests or their throats as they foam at the mouth, the muscles in their bodies Tensing up to the point of snapping until all went black. Her talents went viral in a way with her name being passed along through the underground networks of ill repute, if you needed someone killed without looking like a murder you called locust the poisoner. Of course, once the bad guys knew about her. So did the thirties and the Cousteau found herself arrested on murder charges more than once? It didn't matter though, because the throne saw her as an asset one Royal decree from Claudius and moments later, she was back to toiling and troubling. Qantas's fourth wife. Julia Agra Pena took a liking till AKU STA and employed her as her own personal poison consultants. Nagara Pena had a history of poisoning her husband's and inheriting their wealth. All with an eye on the throne, not for herself. However, but for her son Lucius, she couldn't rule, but she could control a ruler from behind the scenes Lucious father had already died, but Agra penis. Third husband the emperor Claudius needed an air after his son from a previous wife had been deemed unfit to lead. What better way to secure a new air then adopting the one living under his own roof? And he did having the boy changed his name to Niro. But it didn't take long for peanut to grow. Restless. She didn't want to wait for her husband to die and her son to take over his emperor. So she paid a little visit to an old friend LUSA mixed a poison to get rid of the emperor's bodyguard, then paid the Royal food taster to take the day off. So she could enact her plan a few death cap mushrooms in his Stu were all it took for Claudius to go down the emperor's doctor was summoned immediately. He performed the standard procedure to help choking victim by sticking feather down Claudius as throat to trigger vomiting Makusa had seen to that. As well though moments before she had doused the feather in strychnine. Claudius died and Niro took his place with his mother in his ear all the time. Agra Pena had finally made it to the top. Well, as close as she was going to get her personal poisoner. However, did it fare. So well, there was still one loose entity up. So Agra Pena accused the Cousteau of poisoning, her husband and had her sense to death. It's okay, though. Because Niro, new good thing when he saw it and had the young woman released you see he had fallen out with his mother who had become a bit too much of a burden on him. And the two had parted ways Makusa didn't do too badly. After that, she moved into a palace and started a school to teach other women the art of poisoning jails develop new formulas and tested them out on feves and slaves and other people she thought were deserving of death, but as we've learned political turmoil. Exacts a heavy toll on everyone involved, and nobody gets out unscathed Cousteau's past. Eventually caught up with her after Niro's tragic suicide his successor Gulba had grown sick of all the poisoning and the woman behind it. He sentence Cousteau to death in a header dragged through the streets and chains before being publicly executed a gruesome end for a gruesome person experts have called locust histories for serial killer. But that title isn't quite right. She didn't kill out of compulsion or passion or some sociopathic tendency. No acoustic, the poisoner was something more. She was history's first hit woman. I hope you've enjoyed today's guided tour of the cabinet of curiosities subscribe for free on apple podcasts or learn more about the show by visiting curiosities podcast dot com. The show was created by me Aaron mckie in partnership with how stuff works I make another award winning show called Lor which is a podcast book series and television show, and you can learn all about it over at the world of Lor dot com. And until next time stay curious.
"agra pena" Discussed on Ridiculous History
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Robinhood wants to give you a free stock like apple Ford, or sprint to help build your portfolio. Sign up at history, robinhood dot com. That's try just go to history dot, Robin Hood dot com and sign up now. There's an excellent paper films called poisons poisoning in the drug trade in ancient room by l. Cilliers and if p writ youth at the university of the Free State. And in this they give us some more details about exactly how Lucas came to be in the employ of Agra Pino. So she had been convicted of multiple crimes during the reign of cloudiness. She was a known repeat offenders. She was bad medicine, which I guess we're on a couple of levels, but let's keep going Agra Pena you see was the second wife of cloudiness and she had a son named Niro who I am sure is familiar to a lot of ridiculous historians. Yeah. Yeah, it was the name of that Abbes to us to burn CDs back in the early two thousand. Wow, deep cut your own. Yeah, it's because but. Reason. It was named that because Nero was a bit of a pirate maniac, and he was known for burning room to the ground to some degree laid while playing fiddle. Allegedly, there's another story that we're gonna get through that allegedly happen, but it's fun to talk about, you know, legend and myth and sometimes more interesting than the truth. Yes, agreed. So as we see Agra Pena wants her son Niro to be the new ruler and she and a lot. Yeah. Like, yes, a life or death sort of desire and she asked Kusa to poison. Let's see. I was saying cloudy lissi Claudius, that sounds good. And she did it with it was almost like a heist because as you can imagine, this guy has a lot of security tasters even his food taster Hollas. So how what does she do? How does she get past this? You think that's where it comes from? I, we can only hope I love I would. I was wondering the same thing. Yes. So she like, I don't know how does she xactly circumvent palace? I was a little weird like she did. She bribe him to kinda get out of the way as that what happen. So the way she gets passed this is through the use of poison mushrooms which originally are given to the emperor by his food taster, but that doesn't quite work. Right? I don't think so. Yes. So I, I read that that she aggravated bribed this food taster to kind of get him out of the picture and then gave the mushrooms to her husband herself because apparently he was like a huge mushroom fan to really, really liked the shrooms. I relate to that in some peop-. Some people will say that some sources at least will report that the closest the food taster was sick. And then others will say no Agrium bribed him to Malinga either. Away. He wasn't around right, and the mushrooms went directly into the hands of Claudius. It was apparently a little drunk and he did not kill him, but it made him convulse violently and have really bad tummy troubles, right? And so they wanted to induce vomiting is right. That's right. So one source that I read has Agra Pena herself feigning concern for her, you know, convulsing husband and and daintily sticking this poison feather down his throat because that was the thing they would use a feather to induce vomiting, stick it down your throat and tickle your gullet or whatever, and then make you puke up the bad stuff. But instead this feather was laced with an even deadlier poison. Oh, he knew it. Let me step back. Just a second clarify here. I think got the turn of events, correct. So the day before the poising Lucretia poisons the bodyguard and the bodyguard has to call out sick and then Agra Pena. Bribes, the food taster so they removed two people from she's thinking several steps ahead of us for the track podcasters. Yeah. So. Dies because the feather has been poisoned it's soaked in strychnine, right? And all the sudden immediately after the death and this number Niro, a sense to the throne, and they recognize that Lou Duda she has a lot of potential, especially if you are a power hungry emperor right. And there's an interesting pattern that transpires here because we mentioned she'd been arrested more than once multiple times twice. She was arrested for murder, but each time she was arrested, a Roman Senator bailed, her out, people speculate it was kind of way of buying a future kill. Absolutely. She had friends in high places, no question about it. But the thing that's messed up here is that Pena who obviously was trying to set these events in motion and get her boy Niro in the throne. She immediately through Lakota under the bus media leash immediately that she poisoned my husband. I wonder if that was like a strategic Moodley. That's what they call getting in front of getting ahead of it. I wonder if it was really like Likud was in on it, maybe where it's like, all right. I'm gonna take the fall for this because I'm already known poisoner or if she was caught completely unaware, whatever the case might be Niro who is now a power hungry looney tune on his own? Yeah. Because Haggar Pena has really been jockeying for the stuff and trying to manipulate events. Now she's got what she wanted more or less, but Niro is doesn't seem like he's, he's acquiescing has his mother anymore. He's kind of got his own axe to grind in the form of another potential heir to the throne, a fourteen year old who Claudius had given it sired under a previous marriage named britannicas rights, right and Lucy's in a terrible spot because the death Senate she receives is death by bludgeoning, and by the time euro reaches out to her. She's been in jail for several months. Here's the deal. He tracks in about fifty five eight year. So he frees Likud STA though poisoner this point from prison, he gives her a bunch of money. He gives her some land and he says, he's going to make her an aristocrat publicly absolved of all crimes. She has committed or will. Ever commit and all she has to do is poison. This fourteen year old Potanin is fourteen all she has to do is poison this child and reputedly legendary. To have one question. She said, do you want it to be fast or do you want it to be extended and painful? Yeah, there's nothing monstrous about that at all. That's her concern poison. Your fourteen year old fast or protracted and painful psych. Look, I work for you now Niro. So the story, no, some of the details may differ here. No, but here's, here's what I heard that Niro invited this fourteen year old britannicas again the name to huge party one of the palaces and there were passing around wine, fourteen year olds, drank wine at that time and. Britannicas takes his sip from his one goblet and then starts convulsing, is this to one though where like he had complained the wine was this is good. Oh, yeah, this is the one. So apparently back in those days they would loot wine with hot water. You'd be drinking hotline that does not have a refreshing with dinner. That was common, and I was not aware of this at all. And apparently pretend is found his hot wine to be too hot. So he wanted somebody to cool it on down for him and the tasters tasted his hotline. They did not taste the cold water. It was added to it to make it less hot. And that's of course where the poison came into play again, very, Harry's very spray. Sharp or smart hotline is just too weird phrase would would you guys like that on a t shirt mulled wine way? Doesn't she had some herbs whole hotline? Sounds like the wine is. Gun ban. Hey, everyone. We're ridiculous history, and we want to tell you about a brand new apple discovered an app just for investing. It's called Robin Hood. Answer. I Robin Hood and investing in that lets you buy and sell stocks ETF s.'s options and crypto currencies. All commission free. 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Casey, he's not gonna hear these. He doesn't. He's not gonna go back. Don't think he listens to the show. ID might go back and just to see if we talked trash AKC aches for do they love you buddy. And if if he hasn't listened Philo ridiculous historians do not snitch on us, we're being very serious a, but in our continuing streak of telling spookier tales as we get closer and closer to Halloween nor you and I have touched on some gruesome practices such as cannibalism and we've touched on legends of monsters. But today we're looking at real life monsters. Yeah, I mean says you, okay. All right. Yes, we're talking about serial killers and it is true. It is true that in the US often serial killers are given this kind of infamy. They're almost like there's something that's occasionally celebrated about the terrible. Yeah, especially in like, you know, in our industry, the podcast where where it's like what is up to our ears and true crime stories. I'm actually working on a true crime story right now. That is a little different. It's not so much celebrating the idea of serial killer. It's a little bit more of looking at what it means to be human, what it means to have these impulses or to what the obsession with serial killers actually means to us as a culture. Like, why is it so fascinating? My theory is that it makes us feel better about ourselves. It makes us well, I'm not. I'm at least I'm not that crazy. At least I've never actually murdered multiple people. One of the yellow, my mom, yeah, right. I'm not that bad. One of the factors in this almost deflation at times is certainly the question that people in the Baskin theirselves. Would I be someone capable of this have? Could I understand that mentality and it's it's a deep and dark question, but luckily we're not. We're not going to four into the psychology of that that kind of process on today's show. Although we do want to hear what you think about it, feel free to write in. We're ridiculous divorce dot com today. Instead we're delving into a question that has personally and just speak for myself here personally haunted me for a while and that is this who was the world's first serial killer. Yeah, I actually Google this Ben like you do when you're when you're trying to find things out. That's what we've been reduced to is professional, Google IRS. I don't even know how to use a card catalog. I go to the library, you know, I lived next door to a library go there. Yeah, go there. Go in there. Yeah, libraries libraries to. I'm kidding. I'm not as the card catalogue point being I googled. I. Serial killer like I'm doing right now and the name that commonly pops up as a guy named Herman Webster, Mudge it known as h h Holmes, and he is considered on paper release to be the first American serial killer. Right, right. Yeah. But the story we have today is not about Mr.. Mudge it, it's about eighty serial killer. Yes. And the notion of the serial killer name is divisive. And I think there's an issue with maybe calling this person's person more of an assassin. Really? Yes, more of a poisoner. I do wanna stuff too, because you mentioned h h Holmes. There's an amazing book if you haven't read it yet, the devil in the White City by Eric Larsen White City being Chicago. Yeah, h built a murder house, gruesome Grigory stuff, but you're right and all that's there's a question about what makes someone a serial killer. We've looked into this and previous episodes on other shows. This person Lakota of Gaul was a poisoner. She wasn't out there, you know, sneaky up behind people in cutting their throats. But one could argue because of the benefits that she enjoyed with the protections that we're going to get into that she experienced that she may well have fallen into a pattern where she just kind of did it for Lawal's. Yeah. Yeah, definitely not a mentally healthy person. So this this occurs in the first century AD we don't know a ton of stuff. We don't know very much at all about Lucas early life. Other than that she was from Gaul because that's what people called her low Krista from goal. Maybe there were ton of other Likud and there was like, look from Rome, look who's from Gaul. Maybe maybe that's the differentiate. But goal itself was, we're. Northern Italy and the Alps are, and it's it's got three geographical regions around the time. This happened. What I'm saying is is a big place. What's France now, right? France and then northern Italy. So we bring this point up to say that knowing just that she is from goal doesn't really help us. Right. Like what we do sort of know about her though, is that she grew up living off the land as it were, or at least in terms of like some of the. The species of plants that were available in that region. She was in active forager and kind of got herself real familiar with some of the uses of some of these herbs and flowers, and various things that could be used for good or for there, we go. Yes. So or for for. Yeah. Again, we got so this person living land has a encyclopedic knowledge of the different plants that grow in area and different medicinal or nefarious uses of these plants. People recognize talent, and there was an imprest named Agra Pena the younger who noticed that Likud to had as Liam. These would say, a certain set of skills and the Cousteau. This point was already pretty notorious. Yeah. How did reputation procedure her that it made it up to such high levels of government and like influencers or whatever been? Well, there's stuff call her la- Crusca from Gaul and started calling her Likud's to the poisoner that became her new name and she also Cousteau the source for at some point. Yeah, yeah. Woman of many names crazy. So she was already kind of like doing little hits early on getting arrested. I believe she was. She was imprisoned when Agra Pena approached her in AD fifty four and Agra Pena had a particular job for she said, the Pusa. I want you to poise. Zain my husband cloudiness real quick. There's an amazing name given to her profession that combines her, like, you know, knowledge and know-how with herbs and their uses with this idea of being an assassin late on me neck grow entrepreneur. Oh, yeah, yeah. And this was coins, maybe not choline but used in this particular situation by Dr Catherine Ramsland. Who is a PHD in psychology? Yes, there's I, that's that's my favorite. We've learned recently and people did in a way respect this person's abilities. There were multiple poisoners in the area and ancient Rome at the time, but loco was by far one of the most well known and Torius we're also going to get into why because it wasn't just that she anyone can slip somebody some poison or just like make poison or find it. Right, but she was very wily and clever and crafty and get into the next story involving her employ under Agra Pena becomes infinitely clear. Hey, everyone. We're ridiculous history, and we want to tell you about a brand new apple discovered an app just for investing. It's cold. Robinhood answer I Robin Hood and investing in that lets you buy and sell stocks. ETF s.'s options and crypto currencies. All commission free. They tried to make financial services work for everyone including investment neophytes like me and Ben, not just the wealthy yet it's none intimidating wave for stock market newcomers to invest for the first time with true confidence, you'll,