17 Burst results for "Adrian Broner"
The Corner
"adrian broner" Discussed on The Corner
"Just vulnerable, you will learn how. Perk in your story had to be humbled. Yes. You became vulnerable. It was now open to other influences. He's on television. He has a whole second career. Jalen Rose, like you said earlier, you become vulnerable. You're humbled. Everything opens up to you. Adrian broner has been humbled. Black prime check went quick. Yeah, he's like, and he's like, uh oh. But in the midst of that, got back in the gym, got sober, everything opens up and he was like, wow. And he looks healthy. He's talking differently. I was like, oh, that guy is always there. You were actively keeping yourself in that bubble. I'm twin. I might rob you, but he ain't talking like that now. No, 'cause what is it? You were actively keeping yourself in this persona. Yeah. To not be vulnerable and address your shit. And that's where I think tank is. He's just keeping himself in that. Sooner or later, everyone grows up every own matures. And when you're young, you're young and dumb and all this stuff. You have to actively act more mature. People do a lot of shit to act more mature. They get married at 20. Me. You have three kids by 21. Me. You do a lot of shit to act, which I was not mature. I was the king of the fucking payment arrangements instead of paying bills, right? Everything on the outside said, I'm a grown up. Everything I was doing was not. Think you and the first rap back group chat taught me about how to fix my credit like three years ago. In the importance of credit, like fuck a credit card. I don't need any credit in life. Y'all are like, yo, three or four years ago. And then I was like, okay, well, cool. But you have to like, if I was young and still in my first century, no, I had to lose a marriage and go through all this shit and do all this and I become humble and then you grow. And you listen to people. Lo and behold, credit's doing well. Just bought a new car. So I don't see take us 28 is not little anymore. I don't see him opening up to that. And that is what's scary. Because he's getting sentenced in May. That could go his way. It doesn't have to. Right. Like you're going to put that kid in 6 months of jail. That could set him back worse. Good. Tyson's the most cautionary tale. Where Tyson has been humbled humbled humbled. But it finally kicked in at like 48 years old? Yeah. Entice it now. I was like, yeah, let's focus a weed. I'll tell you all my stories. Great. He matured and opened up at 48, living one hell of a second act. Tremendous. Incredible. But it took till 48 years old.
The Corner
"adrian broner" Discussed on The Corner
"Everybody, you seen it? I love it. I love Calvin for it, and I don't know, it reminds me a little bit when I was used to being around Asian Bruno went out that documentary. I used to talk to Mike Stafford all the time. And Mike Stafford was very, very nice, very complimentary. And he was just like, you know, the only thing that's gonna get Adrian's ways is him. And there's only so much I can do 'cause I'm not his dad. And but I'm gonna be here. And I see a lot of that in Calvin forward. It's like, I'm gonna teach trevante how to get out of these circumstances because I want what's best for him. And I know people that were on him may not, but I'm gonna give them everything. But javonte is still Baltimore. The other part of that is just like NFL players or athletes, you give them a lot of money too fast, ain't nobody taking the time to teach them how to spend it. You know, even Ryan talked about today. I dropped out of school in 9th grade. And it's like, did you have to? Well, yeah, 'cause that was only path to becoming an amateur 15 time national champion in the amateurs. That was his only path. But it's like when you get all this money, Devin Haney did the same. Yeah, when you get all this in fighting smokers in Mexico, right? Yeah. But when you get all this money and you don't know what to do with it and it happens really fast, you don't have time to change. You still you just were more money. So when you give a problem child, whoever they are, a ton of money, they're not just going to shape up. It's just going to make them more of what they already are. Until somebody comes in and was like, hey, chill. Like Adrian Brown, I just saw him on Instagram saying he's 5 months sober. Yes. But look what it's looks phenomenal. But look what it took. It took him finally realized all these people ain't going to be around me forever. No. I think who made Kendrick Perkins. We talked about in the last show with his ridiculous nikolaos comics, whatever. But Kendrick Perkins had talked about, he didn't want to listen to the OGs in the locker room until he was a guy that was out of the league. And his phone was ringing no more and all his friends ditched them. And then he got called back to come back to the league and his phone started ringing again. And he was like, oh, I experienced it now. It's just like us as parents. We tell our kids, stop doing this. It's gonna fuck up your knees. Stop doing that. It's gonna mess you up in the long run. And kids, 'cause I was the same, I don't wanna hear that. I don't wanna stop eating bad. It's gonna make your metabolism sold out. You'll be fatty shit when you get older. I'm skinny now. Then when it happens to you, like, I had to go on a diet. That's teach everybody else how to diet. Usually it's too late. Adrian broner, it's not too late, but if he took care of himself early in his career, be much better fighter. Yes. Somehow Floyd managed to skip all the drugs eating bad. He managed to stay this way forever. It's metabolism. He's special. But in the case of tank, it's like, does he ballooned up and wait? Him and Adrian shared guts. At one point. And it's like, I want to see him do better, but it's happening so fast. There's no time for somebody to cultivate and help him be a better person. He's just Baltimore with more money and more money, more attention. And then it just seems like he's still angry because he feels like he has something to prove because people doubt him. Now is some of his ignorance or he's not the most articulate person in the world and people pick up on that and pick on him about that. And I was like, that's kind of not fair. Yeah, Ryan. They were cooked his ass. He did. Ryan said, when you come up here, put together a sentence. And I was like, oh, I was like, are you son of a bitch? I was like, 'cause he know that hurt. There's things and with tank and when he's speaking, you could tell, and it's not a bad thing. That's something I can, not relate with directly, but because again, I saw this growing up. I seen people like this where public speaking still really not his thing. He'll start on a thought, stop for a second and then just cut it off because he feels like it's taking too long to articulate what he wants to say. And then he'll just be like, you'll see on April 20s. Like, I get it. I'm like, yo, I wouldn't press somebody on that. If you're doing your best, that's something a moment of vulnerability that is very relatable. But it's masked, the majority of the time
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"adrian broner" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"End of Bill Kelly? My glass is empty, so I can neither toast nor pour one out and I suspect that that's the reason why be okay prime is coming to his demise. When you Google searched the offices of BLK prime, they did not look like the location of a company that could fund regular multi-million dollar boxing events. So that's one thing. But when it comes to Adrian brunner, like, listen, like I just hope that Adrian Brown is okay. You know, obviously this is a man who is deeply troubled, has been going through substance abuse issues, things outside of the ring, you know, clearly, you know, his interviews are drastically different kind of day after day. And I just hope that he's all right. And I hope that there is still someone in his life and professionally that is going to look out for him. But you know, he continues to be compelling enough, amusing enough to people. And obviously talented enough to continue to get opportunities. So whether he's whether he's in like a big, big fight again, I don't know, but yeah, I honestly, I could see him facing Connor bed. You know, because there are going to be a lot of people that don't want to face Connor Ben for the reasons that we all understand. But broner, as someone that doesn't have a ton of options right now, or at least needs to create them, might be the type of fighter that would jump at something like that. It would make a fight for Connor Ben, interesting to some. So I could see something like that happening. There will be opportunities for Adrian broner. But for me, that's just secondary to just hoping that this isn't a sport that does more harm to him than good. Yeah, I'm with you on hoping it works out for Adrian Brown are on a personal level. I remember just being, I went to his camp years ago before the maidana fight in Colorado Springs and spent a few days kind of learning his story from the people around him and he's really overcome a lot to get to this point. You hope that he can get some semblance of a career back on track. That's number one. I do want to keep it light though for a moment. Like we've seen in boxing we have seen some creative ways to just flush money down the toilet. I just burn it. Whatever PBC did with all that waddell and Reed money. Eddie Hearn going out there and signing like Tevin farmer to multi-million dollar deals of the guys that he was putting on from 2018 up until 2020. Like boxing just gives you example after example of what it means to see money disappear in real time. Be okay prime might, at least in the short run, might take the cake. I mean, guaranteeing Terrence Crawford 10 million for a fight that probably did like, I've heard anywhere from 25,000 or less for that pay per view. Guaranteeing him all that much money. Then giving broder a deal. Then, I believe Jake, you were the first one to post this. Whoever was on Facebook, like asking for an opponent to fight atrium broner. And by the way, offering a $175,000. That's real money. Like that's legitimate money to be an opponent for Adrian broner, almost shocked that nobody was able to take it at this point. This was an incredible run. We need to call Ed brophy at get his dog in get be okay, Brian somewhere in the Hall of Fame. Like just get them get them somewhere. On broner, I do think a Ben fight I'm with you guys makes makes sense. Ben's gonna get back in the ring at some point. He can, he's not vindicated. He's not, you know, anything because of what the WBC said. In fact, he's actually correct me from wrong, but he's like disputed the WBC's findings. He said it's like, wasn't it wasn't eggs, it was bad testing, which is, you know, always that old chestnut of bad testing. But he knows Eddie Hurd knows the British boxing board of control is not going to fold the same way that he did. He's not going to get licensed anytime soon. But he can go over to the Middle East and the Middle East is where some money is. They might have enough money to pay during broner. And look, a Ben fight? Quite frankly, I don't know if it's winnable for Andrew broner, but it's the most winnable high profile fight that's gonna be out there. Connor Ben's got power, but Adrian bro's got a great chin. And broner's gonna have an experience advantage. You can do some things in the ring. If he's right and we don't know about that. But if he's right, Jake, that's the fight he could win. And if he wins that fight, you know, that's an easy way to get your career back on track. It'll be at one 47. You know, wait that broner is now probably officially at at the moment forever. But that to me is if broner can find a way to swallow his pride and realize you're not going to get like $4 million to do it. He should run towards that fight if at all possible. No, I agree a 100%. I've always said to he's not going to allow himself to be like a stepping stone for prospects or guys who don't have any kind of profile whatsoever. And to Cory's point, like you want to know that the guy is going to be happy. I mean, he had to pull out of the Omar for your own fight. He decided mental health issues. I mean, we know they're very real with him. So he seemed like he was a lot happier going into this camp, he looked like he was at least in shape, you know, had the fight happen. So I'm not going to say the dedication is there and he's going to stay on course. But a fight like this, I think, would really get him going. It would probably have, you know, I know Eddie has to deal in Abu Dhabi, the championship series or whatever. So that's going to be probably Conor Ben's home base up until he can get licensed anywhere else in the world. So there's real money there for grown. I mean, he doesn't have to sit around and chase Facebook fights or whatever. I think agera brona could push it all in for that one. I don't know where it would lead to, but it's good enough to get him to the next step in his career. So it's a real payday. He doesn't have to go on fight like some 19 and all hungry prospect that just wants to use his name. And this is, by the way, this is why he still has options because even three people like us were on here and we started off kind of jovial, and then we were like, huh, but if he puts it all together, maybe he can win this fight, right? Because we've seen the Adrian broner of ten years ago, we've seen that electric talent. And so I think we tend to do this with these kind of embattled but extremely talented athletes merely that conversation leading up to their next fight, their next performance is always enough curiosity to hook you. And he is always going to have that. So there will always be opportunities for him and you're right, Jake. I think that he understandably thinks too highly of himself to ever allow himself to go that other path. He always needs to, if not be the a side, then the de facto a side, and there will still be opportunities for that. They're still out there. I just want to know who the, who's going to be the BLK prime of 2023. Who's coming in in the second half of this year with bold plans to take over boxing? Who's coming in with Marv nation money? He was coming in with BLK prime money. Excuse me, who's going to win that next purse bid. Triller money. Like who's going to come in? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result. Why does nobody in boxing realize this? Why? Why is this so hard to wrap your head around that just pumping money in to one a side ish fighter is not going to work? It's not going to work. You've got to be competitive. You got to put on consistent events. And it's almost like in the mayor of crazytown here at sometimes with boxes. Listen, I don't know who it's going to be, but whoever it is, my agent is Debbie spander. You need someone to call these fights. For love of God. Corey, Corey, Corey will call something in Kazakhstan. Yeah, sure I'll fly right over there and take care of it. Reed Jake and Corey stuff over at boxing scene dot com. Follow them on social media, great insight and Intel into all things in the boxing world fellas, always great to catch up. Looking forward to seeing you guys real soon. Anytime, heal that foot. Yes, thanks, Chris, I appreciate you having you on. Looking forward to you being back on the back of the engine list. And when we come back, my conversation with Stephen espinoza. As
The Corner
"adrian broner" Discussed on The Corner
"All right, that's my strip club tour right now. But that leads me to my next topic. Let's see how we tie all this in. Adrian broner. This is a man who's been to the palomino once or twice. I'm sure. In his life. Says, on Instagram Live, while laying down in bed, he is parted ways with BLK prime. Big shock. A four even having one fight where he was supposed to fight this past weekend in Atlanta had to be canceled because he lost three opponents. Yeah, has anybody shot by this? Do you think if you would have thought they would have paid him? No, they took one to clear. They already paid Terrence Crawford. That was all the money. Yeah, it was like, that shit. Adrian, that's assignment. Like Floyd doesn't fight because Adrian brolin was like, how many people can get in here? Supposed to take us with you. You want to get paid no $10 million? I saw the questions like, well, where does Adrian want to go from here? Who cares? I know exactly where he should go. A 100%. Virgil Ortiz beat the shit out of him? No. Oh. He's going to fight Connor Ben. Yeah, he could. Connor Ben's cleared can't fight in the UK. That should still go in. Yeah, yeah, he could. But he can come to the states. You're guaranteed a crowd 'cause AB's still brings him out. Yeah. For a guy from the UK, Connor Ben Adrian broner, you beat the shit out of him knock mom. Yeah, you don't want to do this. And Virgil's past that kind of thing. He has to know this is coming up at 2 a.m. Connor Ben's not past that. Connor Ben needs rejuvenation. He does. Yeah, that's actually a really good fight. But yeah, as soon as I saw Adrian part in ways and I was like, well, PBC just like, we don't need you. It's hop right for what? Who do they even have? Well, we're just going to fight them. No, Josh Taylor moving up after a few months we'll talk about it. But match room, bachelor man, an offer that I bet you age your own is kicking himself, it turned down 80 her and being a dick about it. Then he posted on social media, all this money they offer me. Now you're gonna have to come crawling back. You probably get a third of that. If maybe a mill. Yeah, when this fight didn't want to negotiate the terms of the United States. Yeah. And he ain't winning. No, he's not. There's no Eddie's gonna, that is a dick. Eddie's gonna put him out there and get his ass kicked. Yep. You gonna fight. Our young lion who no one wants to fight right now 'cause they believe he's on everything. Yeah, and he's gonna give they need Asian brother to give somebody the rub. Yep, that's it. Yeah, that makes sense. So that's why I think Adrian broner goes after this. Do we see another BLK prime show? No. With who? I don't know. It's a rap. Ain't got nobody. No, it's over. That was fun. It's fun while it lasts. One event. What about bank robberies? Terrence Crawford. Yeah, that was whatever. All right. Terrence is now. Now he has a mandatory. Which I swear, they're playing. He just fought a mandatory. Yeah, it turns. He may end up in a one fight deal with matchroom or golden boy. I think golden boy wants him for several fights. I know, but I don't think that Virgil, they want to listen. Virgil and then that's what they want. Allegedly putting together ain't fighting, it'll be a one to one. It'll be like a one on one and then we negotiate because as long as it spends fight is still out there, there's no reason for him to align himself with one promotion. I think it's time for Spence to go. Just move up vacay. No, but that's the thing. It's a rap. I'm not convinced this fight ever happens. At this point, as I've said on this show before, Errol Spence is huge. He's getting older. And he hasn't announced his next fight yet. So the longer it takes for his next fight to happen is to be staged at welterweight, or if he ends up fighting Keith thermometer at a catch weight, you can forget about it. He's out of here. That's right. He needs to get a fight in soon. And I keep hearing like they're still negotiating with Terrence Crawford and it's like, that's cool, but Terence is stubborn. And at some point, if your arrow spends, you're like, I'm not going to continue killing myself just to fight you. At some point, it's like, hey, Terrence. Yes? Fuck you. I'm out. And I'm going to go up and I'm going to beat up people in 54 and 60 because I believe can easily fight at 60, easy and you only have so much time to make that money. Right, so what I'm waiting on, I can't wait on somebody who just is Terrence and bad. I don't know what he is, but he doesn't care about his legacy. No. So yeah, go ahead, terrance, fight, cares about money. Yeah, and you'll get paid fight Alexis roca fight Virgil Ortiz, fight those guys. That's what you're going to do. If you want to be undisputed, then gold collect these. Yeah, maybe if I kind of been in the UK, I don't know. That's it. I'm going to give them up. So you're going to have to eventually fight Virgil Ortiz probably for a vacant one. You're going to have to fight boots Ennis 'cause he's going to collect one. You're going to have to fight whoever the hell else has. You want to be undisputed. You could have had in one shot. But you don't care about double undisputed. You don't care about legacy. You don't care about us fighting in our prime. And even if you get them, like we talking about the MMA show with John Jones being still gone and not for instance in Ghana, you didn't beat me. Yep. So how much does it really matter? Not a damn thing. So arrow can not worry about terrorism. Legacy is shot if he doesn't fight arrow. And I don't think he cares. And dude, and I hated to take sides on this, but I was just like, the moment that Terrence left, I was like, boy, you're at a disadvantage. You're not a draw. You're a tremendous fighter, but you truly overvalue yourself. Fight for the legacy. Make yourself bigger. He doesn't care about that. He wants the money now. He thinks he can beat arrow, which obviously you should if you're fighting at that in your undefeated. But man, I'm on the side of arrows like I've been fighting in 47. I've been struggling to make this weight. I mean, I ain't gonna sell more. You ain't gonna get added leverage going to golden boy. No. And I got plenty of fights. 54, 60. I got plenty. I'm putting that rope and fight on pay per view. No, it's like shit. If I'm arrow spins, you look at what's in front of you at PVC. You can find a Charlotte really wanted to. I don't think he would. You could fight at 60. You could fight Caleb, you could fight any of those guys, but you know you could fight, Canelo. Yep. And he's gonna get you paid more than Terrence Crawford gonna get you paid. A 100%. So, yeah, fuck it, move on. You're looking, if you're looking right now, I spent like, yo, I'm going Thurman. I have 54. I'm going Danny Garcia. You're a big deal. 54, who else we got? I mean, there's, oh, Lara? Nah, there's any Lars old. Terrence is good. I mean, excuse me, Errol kennel. Yeah, but I'm saying like,
The Corner
"adrian broner" Discussed on The Corner
"Cal dance we hear the old man Andreas hill in the building still repping niners colors. Got the kicks. Oh my God, that's San Francisco on the bottom. Yeah, yeah, so I got today, we are talking both boxing and MMA. We have an amazing guest coming up later on in the show. You guys don't want to miss that. But we decided to combine both shows today, so we can do an Elimination Chamber only episode for pro wrestling and then have a giant pro wrestling episode later this week because Impact Wrestling is in town great show and then they have two tapings, Saturday and Sunday. So it is a weekend packed full of pro wrestling. We're gonna have guests in here, produce a cold bay bay, is driving back down. If he doesn't get jumped in the parking lot again, and he will be here on Thursday, live right here, blue eyed studios. He might take another bump on the desk. You never know. Hide the tables, hide the chairs, hide the ladders. You don't know what's gonna happen in producer called baby when he's in studio this next time, but that is going to be fun. So yeah, Dre today's boxing MMA and our guest all in one show. So we're jumping right into it to start the week. Boxing will go through the gamut of news and then we'll talk about the two fights on his past weekend. Then we gotta talk about the big fight this weekend. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Tommy Fury finally. It's two fights this weekend. I don't care about that. Floyd Mayweather? No. UK exhibition? Come on, man. I'm tired of him beating up. Good for him. Yeah, Jordy shore, I believe the guy is on. I've never watched an episode. And I watch all reality TV. Those on Zeus, I would watch. I know where this thing airs. So Floyd Mayweather's coming up this weekend. We'll talk about that. And then also a fight that has been canceled at start there. Postponed. The return of Adrian broner. Big shocker. I thought the third time was the charm for the opponent. Obviously, this young kid got his jaw broken in training. Listen, this man went through three opponents. Can't catch a break. Those are three potential wins. That's his entire contract will be okay, BLK prime. Blown in two months. Well, I'll say this. It's a blessing in disguise 'cause that pay per view was going to brick, like Russell Westbrook from three. Like that thing clang, who's gonna watch that shit? I was going to watch. Yeah. But you have to watch. That is true. Yeah. People that don't have to watch. Ain't nobody paying 39.99 C Adrian rona fight. What's the name? Mike Williams? No. Sure. It comes down to he was going to get paid, right? The man needs the money. Of course he does. Get in postponed. He was on Instagram already planning out stuff he was going to buy. He's going to hit the baby mama's office some bread. This was the bingo. I think it's three fights, ten mil, allegedly. I don't think we get three fights at Asian burner on BLK prime. These are the three opponents. These were probably in order that three people he would have fought to just cash ten mil out three wins in a row this year. He would have been straight. I don't think BLK probably will be putting on three pay per views with Adrian brunner and this year. Nope. I mean, it's not going off to a good start. I don't think BLK prime will be here long enough to put together three pay per views. How about that? That's Terrence Crawford's already pretty much gone. Pretty much. So who do you got? Adrian broner? That's going to sell you pay per view. He asked me who they are. I don't know. You're talking three Adrian Ronan pay per views against opponents that nobody cares about. Nah, it's not looking great. Like after the first one they're going to be broke. They need to get to. I don't think they'll get to two. I think this would have been it. So you think this might still be it? We might not get one more. I think there's still, I think they'll get one, they'll dig themselves a holy can't get out of. And then they'll try to do another one, and then they'll cancel it because either tickets won't sell or the other problem is in Atlanta. Who cares? If anything, you go out and take it for cheap, go to magic city out there. They pay and be okay from bills. Go to magic city after you get some wings, and they play Bill K pro's bills. I don't think they'll be, I'll get me a fly in for some wings. Can you tell me magic city is also catering? The media section of BLK prime in Atlanta. Lemon pepper wet? I might be there. You could be there but be okay prompt still going under. This box. This box is less than long for BLK prime. It's not. If you're hitching your wagon to Adrian broner, who hasn't won a significant fight since pick one. I can't even remember his name. I just don't count. He lost a Sean Porter. He lost to Manny Pacquiao. Who is he beat? I don't remember his last one. All honesty. And I do this for a living. I couldn't tell you. Right. So if that's the guy you're hitching your wagon to? Are you better than no one I guess? He got into shape. That's half the battle. He lost the beer belly. He was ready. But when he gets in that ring, what happens? Throws 5 punches around. Right. He pot shots. If he gets out worked then he loses. Let's just say he loses you're supposed to fight every ray catch first. Let's say he lost every catch. It's over. Yeah, you're not getting two more. He's not a given victory. Like putting him in the ring like Tim's Carver, that was a given. I don't know if how good he is anymore. 'cause he kept good fighting really good fighters. He's good enough not to get knocked out. But if he fights lesser opponents, he might be good enough to win. He might, but that's what I'm saying is a significant risk on somebody you can't really rely on. To win fights. Not only that, it's going to be exciting. Yeah, he's going to get his hair brushed, but I'm talking about you didn't say that. In terms of if I paid 39.99 to watch Adrian broner fight. Am I going to get my money's worth to say, I pay 39.99 again to watch Adrian Brown and fight? If you paid 39.99 for agent broner, you're paying for the antics and locker room when they show him earlier in the night. You're paying for the walkout where he inevitably wraps itself to the ring. And does the little dance, you're paying for the costume design? You're paying for the accoutrement around the fight. Yeah, I'm good. And not the meal of it. Yeah. Be okay prime is not, I don't think they don't know what they're doing. They had money. And I was gone.
The Corner
"adrian broner" Discussed on The Corner
"Look, it's possible. We just never seen anyone withstand it because Benavidez is so damn big. He's so big, he throws so many punches and he doesn't care. And he's got a hell of a chin, I don't know what it's going to take to beat him. Like he doesn't have a hard time with his opponents. He's just not slick. He don't really need to be. No, he can be hit. But he's probably going to hit you way more than you hit him. So at this point, you're playing a dangerous game. You are. And it reminds me of Antonio margarito, but faster and stronger. Like margarita would just when he fought Miguel Kota obviously loaded photo gloves. But the way he fought kodo is just totally trying to be slick all night. Margarita just stayed on top of him and just warmed down. I see a similar fight. With Caleb Plant, his plan is going to try to be slick. He's going to try to get out the back door when he's back against the roasting and try to jab. He's going to try to use combinations. He's also smelling himself after the durrell knockout. He's like, I got this. Well, he's going to find out very quickly is like Benavidez is he ain't no drill. No, different level. And you got knocked out by Canelo, which no shame in that. You fought a good fight. But David Benavidez is a guy who's going to keep marching forward. And he's got something to prove. Benavidez is pissed. He doesn't like everybody running from him. He's been calling out everybody for like the last 5 years. It's a hell of a fight. The bill's going to be great. Fight week will probably be great. They're still down. Somebody's going to push somebody. Oh yeah. But yeah, man, this is it. Hopefully they give us some good fights on the undercard. They won't. No, they don't got to pay them like insane amounts of money that should have some dough left boxing. We're not really trashed on the card. Maybe the tank hunter card was good. Because they needed it to be good. We'll get like, I don't know. I'm trying to think who's at PVC at a lower level that needs a fight. It'll be somebody. Yeah. Listen, man, I'll take a Frank Sanchez fight. He makes sense is not very exciting. Nobody wants to fight Frank. I don't know what Frank is. You remember when he fired FA job on the wilder fury car? Oh, yeah, that wasn't a great outfit. Yeah, but it wasn't fun. I don't remember anything. Frank Sanchez doesn't have like memorable moments and fights. But we'll see. It's a pay per view. I don't know how well this does pay per view wise. But as well enough, better than it being free, I guess. I mean, it'll do better than Adrian broner versus Hank lundy. Oh, God. Can we talk about it? Let's do it. February 25th, Adrian brolin was having red cash, ricketts, his pools for undisclosed reasons, whatever it is, probably wasn't the check probably didn't clear. That is what his camp is arguing. It was funny. And they put in hammer and Hank lundy. Wayne shit. I just saw him get beat up. Yes, you did. So you mean to tell me? Adrian broni versus Hank Lindy for 40 bucks? Come on, man. It's half the price of a normal pay per view. I don't care. They need to pay me to watch that shit. I don't know. I have zero interest in growing money. And it's the same night as Jake Paul versus Tommy sugar. That's tough. What's that tough? It's impossible. That'll be during the day. I don't care. I'm watching on repeat. Just so I can avoid Adrian Brown versus hanging on. No, dog. Nobody wants to see this fight. Nobody. There is not a single person on the face of this planet that was like later will show up. Atlanta loves, 'cause they don't get many of them. They don't know. So they have to give away tickets. Them tickets should be 1999 plus a freeze like coupon at Popeyes. I'll take that. Of course, you want to last in your Popeyes. That shit cost like $12 anyway. Exactly. So you really get in the fight for like 7 bucks. That's trash. Be okay, prime, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Who else they got? Nobody. Nobody. I legit. They have nobody. I figured it better get cyborg and be like, hey, you want to fight again? Because we have nobody for this on the card. Yeah. They've announced nothing on this undercard. Nah, they're just going to throw a bunch of people. The last undercard were somewhat saved because everyone from budged gym fought on the undercard. Yeah, I don't care. So it was like, all right, get Stephen elsie, you get some people like there, but yeah, that was about it. So that's 40 bucks for that shit. Come on. I don't know. Pay per view as well. And other one talking about pay per view, Vegas, April 15th, take versus Ryan. I will be here for that. Not done yet. Not done. The contract was sent, everything looks good. Should be finalized. We'll see. We saw a lot of the time we have our next box. I've heard this before, Spencer Crawford. We have, when the press release comes out, then let me know. Or if cop reports. Even cop, he was close, but he said, even with spins and Crawford, like, oh, they got a few sticking points. Like, I believe when I see, but I think this is a pretty easy one to get done. At this point. I figured they'll get this fight done, but that's April 15th. So you go march, the end of March for Benavidez plant. WrestleMania is the week after that. In two weeks every day is Garcia and tank? That's crazy. Wild. April 8th is Shakur Stevenson. Another fight that was announced. Yeah, but number one contender, he'll beat him for Devin Haney. No, he's gonna beat him, but I mean that's an April 8th fight, ramifications. That'll put your curve probably front row for haney lomo and that gets announced, which should also happen. That's the least may 15th, I believe. May 25th, 25th, one of those days. Yeah, or may 20th, because it's the weekend or my birthday. So may 20th or another location yet, cop did report the dates. So pretty trustworthy there. All that plus Canelo somewhere in that window. Yep. Plus what people assume is Deontay Wilder Andy Ruiz. Yep. You know, Reese just got another mandatory opportunity, which I'm in Miami. Money is way better wilder, but I have no chance getting knocked out over there. Yeah, yeah. I don't want to die. Yeah, yeah, so you might take the zone's offer for the other mandatory, but I mean the big fight he's a PVC fighter, like him wilder is the easiest fight to make. Yeah. There's no hurdles to jump through. So looking at that, that's just
The Corner
"adrian broner" Discussed on The Corner
"Not hard to pack on Nebraska when the most expensive tickets $300, all right? They had tickets for like $15 to fight to watch Terence Crawford fight. It's cheaper than pay per view. So I can understand why people win. David Evans is not good. We knew this heading into the fight. We beat the hell out of him. He's not good. Again, there are levels to this. When Arturo Gotti Floyd Mayweather, arterial guy, he's not a bad fighter, but he wasn't off Floyd's level. Floyd beat his ass. We expected this. This is a warmup fight, just like Tyson Fury and Derek Chisora. These are warm up fights. It wasn't worth the price of ambition. It shouldn't have been a pay per view. Good for Terrence Crawford. Give me the spend fight quit playing. Ten mil, ten mil for a nice day at work. And it may or may not count on the official record because I have an easy and today filed something against Terrence Crawford because his gloves broke. Middle cares. He ain't going to win. These things, these appeals, they never win. This will stick. So he got caught with a bare hand because the glove damn near lost all his stuffing. It just felt like it. That's all you're getting your ass beat. It was inevitable. I thought it was funny. BLK prime sent out a press release after the fight that says, POK prime cements their place as one of the pillars of boxing and extravagant pay per view. Like, yo, this is the most hyperbolic press release I've ever seen in my life. Stop lying to me. Nobody watched this shit live. Nobody paid for this before I watched fuck this fight. Unless they cut me a check in which will be there. Adrian broner, Atlanta, February, also announced. Is that a pay per view? Yeah, be okay prime is all papers. Nobody's watching that shit. 215 pounds. Adrian broner always puts on a gut before fights. And he'll get it off, he'll be in grape shit by the time the fight happens. I think, are they fighting a welterweight 47? They find out a catch. I thought it was one 44, but I think it's one 47. Well, whatever it is, Bron is going to, well, I can't say bro is going to be his ass. This Adrian broader. Never know. I've been ray Katz, another he's an opponent. He'll be there to fight. He's not coming to lose. He'll try to win and he'll get beat up. That's what we think. If this is on pay per view, I don't know who's watching this shit. Nah, you gotta have like fuck that fight. I don't know. Quavo concert on undercard. I don't know how you sell this. But I feel like black people come out in Atlanta for this. I think it's like, MLK weekend? No, that's in jail. That week. Wait, wait, what's the date? February 18. So a week after the Super Bowl. Okay. Yeah, close to your birthday. Yeah, the week after my birthday. Something like that, right? It's a three day weekend, I believe. Where people go and cook out and yeah. No, I mean, I contemplated going to that fight. Just 'cause I like Atlanta as a city. But I could have just. My managers at work, which was like, what? I was like, ah, yeah, I can't even. Like, it was a good thought. You miss all the shots you don't take, Dre. So I had to throw that out there. I just like Atlanta. If you ain't been a magic city, and have the Lou will special, wings in there, like, come on, you ain't living life. And that is a great city. So many, so many great things to do there. You didn't miss me somewhat bad mouthing. Washington, D.C.. But I promise you, I wasn't. I was just looking for honest answers. I've got some good recommendations. Since with Washington, D.C. Drea took great offense to that people in our group chat. Left me to my own devices. He was very mad that I spoke down upon chocolate city. Next up, we had teal female Lopez, in my city, greatest city on earth, New York City. I was there all last week, it wasn't brick house cold so I was able to move around. I did a bunch of stuff. I did some tourism shit. I went and saw the tree, Rockefeller center, did all that stuff. I say, I went to Knicks game. Next one on a winning streak because I went. All of that probably more exciting than the main event. And to me, I mean, undercard was good. Big baby Anderson, he's the truth of heavyweight. That power is crazy. And super athletic Xander's eyes, his Android is showed his chin, it was a great performance by him. Keyshawn Davis is one of the best prospects in the world for a reason. Then you get to see a female in the main event. I get Sandra Martin, and I know Santa Martine stepped in, I think, on 5 weeks notice I'm not an easy guy to take a short notice fight against supposed to be sniper pedraza, who is going to stand there and trade with you. You're going to stand in the bank and draw and instead you get senator Martine who's really skilled southpaw very hard to figure out and then against TF female, he decided, you know what? I'm out box him and move. And he
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"adrian broner" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"So I did. There's nobody. They're preparing for it. They'll be ready. I've read cats, works out a wild card. They'll be ready to go, but there's a strong disbelief amongst people around him that that fight's gonna go forward. And Chris, even if it does go forward, what is the point of it? I don't know. There's no point to it. You're putting it on paper. It makes no sense. I don't know what they should have done. You know what they should have done? I mean, first of all, broner's got to find his way into fighting shape. That's number one. Number two, they should have found a way to do bro and Rolly Romero. Like, I don't think that's a good fight either, but the way those two talk, you could have at least built it up over the course of a month month and a half into something that maybe might have registered some interest. It still would have been a financial loss, but it's just more appealing than bronner red catch. And last time we saw red catch, Regis Kroger was beating him up. And he's been off for a long time. So I just, I'm with you, I don't see the marketability of a fight like that. And also, just look what just happened. Adrian broner was supposed to fight Omar figueroa junior on August 20th. And the week of the fight, he withdrew from it and said he wasn't in the right mental space, and I don't want to, I don't know, whatever was going on, you know, I wish Adrian broner well, but how would you have confidence then that he's going to get to the point of this? Let's just say the fight remains intact. Well, how do you know he's not going to get to fight week and then withdraw from the fight because he doesn't feel like he's in the right emotional or mental place to fight? So the whole thing is odd because you're building a pay per view fight around a guy who hasn't fought in quite some time and just withdrew from a fight four months ago because he just was not capable of fighting.
The Corner
"adrian broner" Discussed on The Corner
"If you that confident in your skills, be able to spend, and the rematch may be even bigger. Or you solidify your legacy. I get it. Crawford's a stubborn dude. But this black prime should ain't the move. Adrian brunning want to fight and goddamn how long? We don't even know if he's gonna show. Who's he gonna fight on black prime? I saw they put Scarface. I mean, there was a guy on their name. He was Brian something, they named they wrote it out as his brain. Is that who you gonna fight? Asian brother? I mean, I have an easier. They got some dough to toss around. They'll get somebody to fight broner. The key is he got to win those fights. You can't lose the first one, 'cause then you just paid for a dud. Adrian Adrian broner beat. I don't know, and I don't care, right? That's the other thing. The thing that I think people forget forgot is nobody gives a shit about Adrian broner in 2022, 2023. Nobody's like going, man, I can't wait to see Adrian Brown and fight. It's not happening. This is not a good look. People do like watching them fight. Not enough for a pay per view on a random ass hat. I mean, it probably won't even be a pay per view. I don't know what their business model is. 3.5 million on average per fight, the shit's going to be a paper. That's what they told us. I don't know if that's true. We saw what the design for. You don't have to cut the check, but that's why he signed for. I have black prom. I'm opening my black prime app right now for you. All right? Because they license a few movies. Yes, Crawford versus I have an EC and right at the top. Black prom pay per view. 6 p.m.. That's awesome. So some of the movies that they have, they have like 35 and ticking with Kevin Hart. To get black prime is three 99 monthly, by the way. Which is cheap, right? But that's not bad. I've paid more for other apps that are questionable. Well, I mean, you could watch a movie like gangs of the dead. How about that? You know, you could watch black Annie. What a great movie. The bad none. Isn't any black now? The last thing he was black. Well, this is a horror movie called the legend of black Annie. So different blackhead. You know, I mean, they did get for however they got it. Dave Chappelle's for what it's worth stand up is on here. But this is an app that there's got to be some dope money coming from this. Shit. You can't be on the up and up. Let me find out. You don't know what happened to trailers money. How they originally got money. We just know they no longer have as much money as they want to have. Let me find out that it's J prince and free the real Rick Ross running this goddamn app. Might be Rick Ross. Somebody gotta ask a goddamn money. 'cause it ain't these guys. Whoever's running this shit before ain't happening. But all that to say is, this fight does not happening is bad for boxing. Because I said on serious this past week, it gets really hard for me to defend like something that I care about. If my daughter was going to school like smacking kids outside of the head, and then I had to try to defend it. I can't. But I still love my daughter. I love boxing. It's very disrespectful to me. It doesn't love me. It doesn't respect me. Those are respect what I stand for. Boxing is very disrespectful to us as fans. It's impossible to defend. If an MMA fan comes to me and was like, that's why boxes sucks. And I go, you know what? You're right.
The Corner
"adrian broner" Discussed on The Corner
"Win. This is a winnable fight. He's almost two to one underdog. I get it. I'm picking Anthony Joshua. I'm sorry if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, I don't care. Oh, I think oh hardly I'm gonna be wrong, but I'm picking Joshua just because I want the fury fight. Boxing owes us one. It owes us one fucking shenanigans super fight. And if that fight happens, I don't give a fuck where it is. I'll be there. Oh, we out there. The whole week. That shit could be on Mars. I'll be like, hey, where's the rocket? Oh, yes. Sending me on the first thing smoking. Yeah, all right. I just said I didn't want to go Saudi Arabia. Fury Joshua? There are certain fights that I just won't miss. That's one of them. Yeah. I'm chilling. I'm booking my flights right next to you. I'm getting a switch. We're playing video games for 21 hours. That's the other thing about Jetta. Another reason why you can't drink. It's a dry country. Yeah. Like I drank so much on the flight there before we crossed over and they were like, last call because you're dry for the rest of the week. And I was like, really? I drank so much. Give me everything. I drink everything on the way there. Everything. So yeah. Video games and high class foods. Well, you know, if you're doing London. That's different. This is a pub on every corner. Oh, if it's London, where we're hanging out with the locals, we're learning chance. Yep. Oh, it's all crazy. I don't know if I'll make it to the fight. It's all right, they'll carry us in. No problem. Yeah, so that's going to be fun. Tons of boxing coming up will review this fight next week. Before we go, because I mentioned at the beginning of the show, I just want to touch on it real quick. Hope Adrian brolin gets whatever help he needs. Oh, yes. Taking Ryan García went back and forth on this as well. I talked about it on carbon time with Ryan. Mental health is a tricky thing because you don't want to discredit Adrian wrote it, right? It's invisible. It's not in case brain. Right. And I say this because we just had Jared Gordon on MMA show. Talking about that. Mental health is yes, it's something we got to deal with is something we should bring attention to. Fighters are in a business of separating people from their senses, which makes it all very difficult. And if you don't think for one minute that Mike Tyson didn't step into the ring with some mental health issues you're out of your mind. The only thing I ask of Adrian broner is the most important thing is you figure always talked about a cop out like all these people say crazy things, but be an advocate after this. Yeah. You can't talk about mental health issues and then go going back to be the old AB all the time. Yes, we want to see that out of you some people love that about you. But now that you pull out a fight and made it clear that it was mental health, you need to use that platform to address this in a public manner to help others. Like Ryan García, they say what the fuck they want about him. But he's not backing down from this was real. Yeah. I'm going to talk loudly and use my platform to help others. We suffer from the same thing. Adrian bronner has been an asshole. Yeah, his entire career. But now again, we don't know what's going on with him. Right. And we've seen for years we've seen on social media and just saying things. Sorry, he flush money down the toilet. He's done weird shit. He does posted odd videos. But we know, well, we don't know, but we can all assume that a lot of this is a cover up for whatever's going on inside. So I just hope that whatever help he needs or he gets the help he needs. And then he speaks out about this publicly because don't use mental health as a crutch. Don't use it because I don't feel like fighting today. Yeah. If you're going to say that I'm dealing with some issues publicly and I need to pull out of a fight, go back and really explain what those things are. You don't have to be too candid, but speak to people. Talk to people, use your platform. Yes, we know you've been the problem for so long, but let's be a solution for once. That's all ask Adrian broner, Omar figueroa said it was a cop out. I don't care. Sergey Libby Ness being on standby wasn't by accident. No. Smart. They knew. So to be fair, he's like, oh, well, he just wasn't in shape or bar. You look good. Look good. Where he started? Yeah. To where he was, the man was doing work. Some shape form, he was not sitting on a couch, he was not staying fat. No, like he put in the work for this. Got down a fight week, and he was like, I don't feel right. He's a world champion. Whatever we say, the three division world champion. He knows what it feels like to be right. He'll be like, this all wrong. Can he do? I mean, whether we believe him or not, the man has been on social media to talk about his money issues. He just pulled out my issues. Like he pulled out of a fight that was going to make him money. I asked someone this all the time. Or since this news broke, like I was talking to someone. I had several people this. Because people do come play. Well, it's fight week. Go through it to fight like you're messing up so much money and all this stuff. All
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"adrian broner" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"He's very motivated, very hungry as two kids back in Uzbekistan. That fight probably is the one because I don't know even though Pueblo is undefeated. He's 20 no with ten knockouts. I'm not sure that people know what to make of him quite yet because he hasn't fought someone this good. So that's an intriguing fight. But the main event, as you said, Chris also intriguing in that they're at very similar points in their careers. They're the same age figueroa and lipping as they're basically the same age. They're both coming off long layoffs, they're both coming off one sided losses now, lipids fought one of the most gifted fighters on earth in geron Ennis, whereas figueroa thought Abel Ramos, who's a good contenders solid contender, but he certainly is not drawn in his. But lipids feels like he was too small for one 47. He took the fight against Ennis quite frankly because most people had turned it down and it was a lot of money. So he took the opportunity, knew he didn't quite belong in that weight class, especially against someone so good. And he told me today that he feels like drawn in is the future of boxing. I mean, a lot of people feel that way. But this is coming from a guy who has shared the ring with him and has fought a lot of top level guys and he said, this kid is the future of boxing. So limp and yes has a lot to fight for and that he's the favorite against figaro. If he wins, he can put himself back in the mix to some extent in the 140 pound division because he has moved back down from one 47 to one 40. And what you said initially, Chris is true that while figueroa isn't as intriguing as figueroa or broner because broner, whatever people might think of him at this point in his career is a polarizing guy and even though less people are interested and less people watch than they once did when Adrian broner fights.
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"adrian broner" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"Because he has a lot of children that are depending on him and you don't want to see anyone do anything harmful to themselves. And he seems like he's in a bad place or he certainly has seen to me at times like he's been in bad places a lot of times. And he's fought through it and gotten himself to the ring. He says, what he said in his Instagram post the other day was that there were so many times that he felt like pulling out a fight study didn't and he put himself in positions that he didn't belong putting himself in in the ring. And he refused to do that again this time. And that's his version of it. So look, I'm just going to take him at his word. Again, I don't think that it's fair for me to sit here and play armchair psych. I don't know which I'm not his friend. I'm not in his I don't spend any time with him or anything other than when we interview him and cover his fight. So I understand figaro's frustration. But I don't know where this leaves Adrian broner moving forward. Do they put him in another main event? Because he basically said the other day, I'll be back soon. Well, I don't know that anyone's going to be looking to line him up in another main event without some significant evidence that he has addressed these problems that he's saying that he has had. Yeah, I wouldn't count on seeing him anytime soon either. I mean, you remember after the win over Santiago, he went on showtime after the fight and was basically pleading with Al hayman and Steven Espinosa of showtime to send him back out there to get him more fights and keep him active. That didn't happen then. I don't see it happening now. I mean, mental health has become front and center in boxing. So it's tough to dismiss it in the way that Omar figueroa has dismissed it. I mean, when you go back to what Ryan García went through last year when you go more recently, Danny Garcia, openly crying in the ring. Danny Garcia, a tough guy. You know, crying about what he was going through in the ring.
THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas
"adrian broner" Discussed on THE FIGHT with Teddy Atlas
"Good, Ken, I just I got my hair cut so I could pick some factions on before I got on the scale this morning. And I hit the it's how we did in old days, you know, you cut the beard, you cut the hair, you shaved your legs. Whatever you had to do to make that fraction to make weight, so I've been holding steady for the last couple of days at -24 pounds and this morning I got on. I've lost 26 pounds. Nice. Congratulations. Yeah. That's serious weight loss. Losing weight. Yeah, I got I'm close now to the goal weight that I set for myself which is 30 pounds. But like Jackie Gleason said on a honeymoon is when he was doing that contest, you know, for the $64,000 question to name that tune. I'm going all the way. I'm going all the way to the jackpot. I'm not stopping. I'm not stopping at 30 pounds. When you were talking about getting on the scale, you know what they were doing if you were from like West Virginia, Tennessee or Alabama, Mississippi, maybe you take out your false teeth as well. That's probably good for a few more rounds. I'm just kidding. I hope in the south don't jump on me. We're not trying to insult anyone. But hey, listen, if people got over what Hillary Clinton said to all the people out there had for the country out there when she was running for president undesirables and all this deplorables, the. Oh my God. Now we're going to political gaffe. Although she doesn't think so she was thinking she was saying something that obviously she meant. If losing the election that didn't get your attention, then nothing will. Some of those things register with politicians. It's not just Hillary. I think it's both sides of the aisle. They'll say anything they can to get elected. There's no recourse. You can lie through your teeth regardless of the party and just call it. And act like you never even said it. You're trading, take your pick. Unfortunately, politicians aren't too good. They're not good. Politicians bad. You know, I mean, there's some good ones, don't get me wrong. But on the whole, they have tainted that vocation tremendously. From what it was meant to be with our founding fathers, first put it all together. It was meant to be regular working people. That's exactly right. You were supposed to serve your term, hence the recess in the summer, not for a boondoggle, but to go back to your farm or whatever your occupation was. To do your job, not to be a career politician, like so many just live in D.C., it was to serve a term, do your public service to the country. Help it get better. And now it's like a money grab. Let's get in there, wield as much influence as we can. Spend our entire term trying to get reelected. It's not one or not one side or the other of the aisle. It's all of them. It's the same shit. Early Christmas, which would be term limits. Term limits to say the least. With lobbying while we're at it. But what you just touched on were finished with this, you know, I remember when these tolls just disgusting talls on a bridges, it was promised when they first told these bridges, especially in New York, they said that once the bridge was paid for, there would be no more tone. It would be free. So much for that. They probably ran for office right after that promise. You remember when was it Chris Christie who got in trouble for to get political revenge on one of his one of his opponents? Caused the trafficking. You know when you're sitting in traffic, you're like, what the F, who is causing this? I want to kill them. Oh, don't worry about it. It's the governor. Okay. I guess so I hope he got his opponent railroad. The guy, the guy that told you, trust me, I'll make things better. For me, for me. For me is a vote for you, you know? As you said, it's across the board. We're not picking out a 100%. I think that they're all do the same thing. And when they get caught they're sorry, they got caught, but not sorry for anything else. But with that, hey, breaking news. Adrian brona fight against all my figueroa is off Adrian broner says he's going through a mental health crisis and needs the time away from the ring to get his mind right says he doesn't want to get in the ring unprepared and play with his life. I a 100% agree with that. I don't think that anyone would disagree that Adrian broner has been struggling with mental health issues for a long time. I wish him the best, but I can't say that I'm surprised at this development. What are your thoughts, teddy? This is sadness to what he acts like an idiot a buffoon. You know, and all that, but this is sadness to it. Nobody wants to see anybody in this kind of distress. And to the point of having to pull out a fight in their life being in chaos because of mental health issues, yeah, I agree with you. You know, you could see you could see a lot of stuff coming here's my thoughts. That besides being said, by which I already said, I don't care who it is. I don't care. I know a lot of people don't like them. But this is put that aside for two seconds. And it's about somebody's life. It's about somebody who's in a dangerous place right now with mental health, obviously in a desperate place, a bad place. And I don't wish that on any human being. First of all, and I will say this, whether it's drug addiction or whether it's you choose you choose whatever the thing that you're fighting with and the problems you have, when people go through that, you can
The Corner
"adrian broner" Discussed on The Corner
"Like the Floyd effect, right? It's like, you can only avoid him for so long. Oh no. He's here for everybody. What's the smoke? And if you're Ryan García, Ryan, was like, yeah, we fought 6 times on a BM three, but he's like, you lost the last three, right? It's fair. And it's like, they haven't gotten your face, you got into your face. If you find this tank, he's gonna get in his face too. Yeah. And it's like, y'all gotta say the man's name. You could be very honest and say, if I doesn't make me as much money, but his time will come. Yeah. Say something 'cause now it's starting to look like, yo, he's the champ. They can avoid him for now because the star power is not as high as them, right? So the people clamoring for him and him even clamoring and getting people's face. If they don't post it, it doesn't matter because his audience is middle school compared to theirs. You know the worst part about this is? Let's just say, hypothetically, Tang versus Ryan happens next spring. Yeah, should. The losers done. No, no, no. If the loser gets if the loser gets crushed in terms of, like, maybe they get Adrian bronner's. Right? Because they never thought anybody. And now when you lose, if tank were to get crushed by Ryan García, it's a rap. It's a rat. He could beat so many other people. Hoodie? We don't know. It's not like we know he's not mediocre. He's not average. But what I'm saying is we don't know how great these guys are. But we know they're pretty damn good. If he got smoked by Ryan García, tank is what? 28? Yeah. You can't go out there and just keep giving them soft touches. No, but Devin could drop the belt and then what a one 35. Can he beat a Richard Comey? Yes. Can you beat like he can end up a double champion at one 35? I'm just saying. It becomes complicated because he hasn't fought anybody and then people, it's like it's in pro wrestling. It's the Goldberg effect, right? When Goldberg finally lost, it was like, all right, so now you start picking apart everything he does right now. Your career is predicated on knockouts that also right. So it's like, and if Ryan loses, he was like, he was a guy, but he'll have the social media phone, don't get me wrong. But let's say the same thing about him. Well, he didn't find anybody. And he got smoked. Like the loser that fight is in trouble because the reason why is that fight's not going to a decision. No. Somebody's getting hurt. You can lose. It's what you do after that. You can't lose repeatedly. Like, Adrian broner got washed by my Donna at least. He's never the same. He's all having a press conference. This press conference me and I'm out. He's never the same after that. But you can lose, bounce back and run like 6 fights in a row again and be just fine. But best believe his next four, he gonna be on it again. And he could lose. Here's the difference, right? Ryan García and tank Davis haven't fought anybody. They fight each other and one of them gets nuked. This isn't necessarily about what we think. It's about what they start thinking about themselves. That's key. But you got to understand, like, that is boxing. Everyone isn't it? I think that's, yeah, it's boxing without Floyd. Boxing without Floyd was, yo, we're gonna fight. I could get nuked and then guess what? Nobody else gonna run this. So what's up? And then we're gonna meet again in three years and we're gonna run it back because you know what, you might got me at one 35, but let's see what it's about at one 40. Let's see what it's about at one 47. That was a boxing before Floyd. People lost and you know all the time. We run it back. Yeah, but again, they fought each other, right? And they're so young that we can't just be like, oh, if they were 31, 32, if they were spent in Crawford, different, 'cause having fought Thurman, right? Who's the other big bad at your era? Right. Neither of you guys fall. Y'all didn't fight each other. Technically, y'all fall Sean. But like, y'all ain't fight the other big badging era, arrow front, Danny. I mean, aerofoil, Danny. Sean. No, but who just wasn't thought of a big bad in there. Daddy. I'll give you daddy. And he was like, of their crew, like, yo, these are the best. Of your era. One of them have fought. So it's just like, now we go into the Spence Crawford one, and he'd be like, yo, someone get knocked out here. It's over. Because your resume is not good enough. If you fight young enough, and you'd be like, all right, we're gonna run this back later at one 40 or one 47. You're fine. Marques hasn't packed out for the three different weight classes. Yeah, but they also fought everybody. They did. But if you start young enough, you have that opportunity. My point is these two aren't getting any younger. And Ryan's got a layer. That's 24. Ryan's got a leg up. Tank does it. No, but this is when you have to start and you say, yo, it falls how it falls. Like he has, in some ways, he has to fight somebody next year. He has to. Oh, yeah. Fires to the feet. We're getting to the point where Shakur, Devin, Ryan, boots, Virgil, bam Rodriguez, their accolades have passed yours. Yeah, you're a star, but you got to fight somebody. You have to go fight Regis program. It's amazing fight. But you have to fight somebody. Regis said, I'm not sure if anyone wants to fight me.
SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"adrian broner" Discussed on SI Boxing with Chris Mannix
"At that moment, it's like, okay, is this guy ever coming back is he just fat and happy and they're going to slink off? So maybe he could have just retired at that point. Maybe the pandemic, you know, he had the win over Jesse Vargas. He could have just kind of figured it off. Question for you too, though. Do y'all feel with his resume? Is a Hall of Fame worthy? Yeah, I was gonna bring this up next. Because it is, he is, he really is an interesting test case because he does have the four Division Championship label on his resume. That's top of the resume. And as you pointed out, Jake, he beat guys for those bills. But you dive into the resume. There's Robert Easter probably at the top of that list, I think. That was one of not his best win. Adrian broner, maybe his most high profile win of his career when he won that fight at one 40. There were a handful of others there. Was a good win, he blasted him out of there to win a title though the teacher came back. When he came back, yeah. Yeah, well, that guy just basically felt the map after that loss. So it's fair to wonder what he was at that point too. But like, you know, he lost the fight, Daryl Spence, he had the upset loss to Sandra Martin. And for me, Jake, when I think of Mikey Garcia's career, it's a lot of what could have been. What could have been, had he not taken two and a half years off embroiled in that lawsuit against top rank? What could have been if he had just stayed at one 35 and fought lomachenko like in the spin of fights? Lennar is fine though, but to me. He was yeah, he was the man, but like lomachenko was there with titles at one 35. And Mikey Garcia had the two titles at one 35. Like Mikey versus Loma would have been a mega fight. I don't know who would have won that because Mikey at one 35 was physically strong. And Loma was Loma at that point. So to me, Jake, it's a lot of like, what could have been with Mikey that makes me think, maybe he's not a Hall of Famer. Yeah, you know, I think if we were baseball writers, like, he's a guy that hit a lot of the singles, hit a lot of doubles, maybe hovering around that 300 line. And maybe that gets him in. It's kind of like going back to golovkin. It's like, is it longevity that gets him in? He's certainly accommodating with the media and some writers, let's face it. That does, you know, if guys on the fence, you know, if he's not a dick to you, yeah, you're probably going to vote for him. So that is my problem. It's like, I feel like every fight we've watched. Like, I don't feel like we've ever sat in press raw and said, wow, we're watching a Hall of Fame career. It's like, yeah, maybe he's on his way, but even when he beat Robert Easter, okay, his ticket is stamped he's going to the Hall of Fame. And that's really the last great win of his career. You know, I mean, do you give him credit for moving up and fighting Errol Spence? He wants that fight 12 knock him. I can't say after the Jesse August, when you're like, okay, this guy's in a Hall of Fame. So it's like, it's almost like now we have to sit back, evaluate his career as a whole..
The Corner
"adrian broner" Discussed on The Corner
"Tour. Let's put you on blast. That's what we're doing. Biggie and butt cheeks. Post fight party for magic city, baby. Yeah, if it's in Atlanta, it's gotta be a magic city. Sponsored by lemon pepper chicken wings. I don't even know. I'm gonna be tossing the lemon pepper wings. He tosses pancakes. Oh, that'd be incredible. I'm just gonna do day it up in the strip club. Just tossing wings. Yeah, so we have verses. We have biggie and butt cheeks. We have the adult film festival. That's adjacent. That has to be hosted by snoop and Luke. Oh, my God. Even though snoop's like a household name, he's like good clean and wholesome. I guarantee you I said, dude. This is what we're doing. The hell yeah. Yeah. You don't snooze down. I kind of want Ludacris in on this. It's Atlanta, why not? Yeah. And Jermaine dupri. Yeah, I need like DJ love a Ludacris. Back in the morning. Chris love a lover? Don't throw it back. Yeah, yeah, we got to bring this off full circle. So y'all really liked fight Nick and I really like I dick. We might scare some people with fighting dick. I think you gotta have it in Atlanta, 'cause if you did it in Vegas, be like NBA all star weekend where people know we're never doing this shit again. Doing Atlanta, you do fight with biggie and butt cheeks. Yeah, you got the verses. I don't even care who's in verses. Just whoever. I don't know who wants. Everybody raise their hand to fight. You said Adrian broner, you know he would. Oh, bronner be there. We gotta have like one celeb fight, shout out to this weekend, where we have people coming through around Lee fighting. Who could we have fight? Yo, I mean, it's Atlanta. Who can't we have fight? We could have Kanye and Pete Davidson, fight. I want to be bad. That's too many tickets though. At this point, Kanye got an entourage. There's a lot going on there. It'd be for Kim's.
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"adrian broner" Discussed on The Corner
"We got the ratchet holidays. Memorial Day weekend. And Labor Day weekend. And we got tank Davis fighting on both. Yeah, yeah. Has taken over the ratchet holiday. The fact that he's going to New York for this ratchet holiday is a little weird. But it should have been Miami, tank, Memorial Day, Miami, live. In LA once. September. That's kind of like saying NBA all star weekend is the holiday. We should have a fight during NBA all star weekend. Tang davids would do it. He was like, they were taking off. We're the Negro is going to be. Also our weekend, I'm there. And that's the weekend. Yeah, I just like to see us fight. You know, Malcolm X day, fight. Something like that. We don't have a Martin Luther King day fight. Because then people would be like, he was for peace. Why are you kicking ass? I would, again, I'm problematic right now. But I would love I would love an Atlanta fighter to come up and have like a freak Nick, fight weekend every year. Then you go get me too. I'm like, old school. Just bring back the vibes of the weekend. The vibes we problematic. They're freaknik. You're doing a lot. Like a weekend together. You don't try to find us. You know what network would do this? Fight Nick. What? And we'll do a concert? Headlined by two live crew. Yeah, let's do Campbell doing these days. Right now. So you'll fight and then you get D strings and butt cheeks. Me so horny, ring walk. Winner. He's a horny ring walk. Yeah. Rapid it to the ring? We gotta be careful because at a certain point, my wife is like, you're not going to that. You need to stay home. That is where we travel. Going too far. The miso horny fight. You need to say, you a father of two, you stay home. Oh my gosh. He's so horny. Stay home. That is a trailer production. Adrian broner? Oh man. Tell me he wouldn't headline that. They'd be yo, they'd be a fight. They'd be a fight, and then they would be like, an adult film festival. The same weekend. I just pictured pinky sitting ringside. And I lost my later this evening. Riding the pole in 3 a.m. and keep diamonds. Oh my God. Someone tell Malaya on my fire. She should work today. Oh my God. We're getting all the legends out, baby. Where's the camera? Give me this camera. Give me this camera. Do not take this shit. This is our. We just made this up. Contact us if you would like to steal our idea of fight Nick in Atlanta. Don't do it without us. So let's put us on commentary some. They're having barstool do commentary for Canelo, right? We can do commentary for fighting Nick. All right? And then the porn convention that follows that. This is ours. We own this. Oh my God. I see you. I see all your commentary. I need Brian. Sponsored by Hennessy. I need Brian pumper to be on color coffee. No, we don't need Bryan. Not too far. I can't have a special guest Roxie Reynolds. We need all the legends. Look, yes, it was sponsored. It'd be sponsored by Hennessy and it'd be like, yeah. Let's do it. But I gotta do that. Hennessy pure white. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm classy. So it needs to be Hennessey. You're white. It can't be just Hennessey. I need the upper Echelon of fantasy. I got friends that were fantasy. This thing's gonna happen, damn it. I feel good.