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NPR News: 12-26-2019 10PM ET

NPR News Now

04:39 min | 1 year ago

NPR News: 12-26-2019 10PM ET

"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Dale Willman. An asylum seeker from the Democratic Republic of Congo died Wednesday while in. US government custody in a statement with the US. Customs and Border Protection says the forty one year old woman died shortly after she entered a border stationed in Laredo Texas. She was carrying paperwork. That documented previous medical medical condition that according to the the woman has not been identified. She was traveling with her husband and two children they were released Ukraine says. It's buying more javelin on anti-tank missiles from the US this time with its own money. NPR's Michele Keleman reports that the sale was held up along with US aid earlier this year. Ukraine's embassy in Washington. Washington says this is the country's first ever made your contract for direct purchase from the US. A previous shipment of javelin was part of A. US aid package now under a new Ukrainian according to law the country can buy the weapons directly. The trump administration notified Congress about the proposed sale of one hundred fifty javelin in October. Ukraine's president president trump in late July. That he was almost ready to buy more javelin from the. US trump responded saying quote. I would like you to do us a favor though. President trump has since been impeached by the House of Representatives for abuse of power in his dealings with Ukraine Michele Kelemen NPR news. The State Department a strong strong typhoon that hit the Philippines has killed more than twenty people and forced thousands of others to leave their homes. The typhoon is stranded. Many people during the peak time for holiday travel it it also set off a flooded. low-lying villages and destroyed homes. A disaster officials described one coastal area as a ghost town. Iraq's president is siding siding with anti-government protestors rejecting parliament's proposed candidate for prime minister. NPR's Jane Arraf has details are him Sala and the letter told parliament. He would resign fine if they wanted but he won't approve their choice of a prime minister. The biggest coalition in parliament which is Iranian backed had proposed the governor of Basra. Assad Al Danni money for the position. Protesters made clear. They rejected that nomination saying they wouldn't settle for anyone from the political establishment in some cities in the south of Iraq. Protesters set fire to abandoned offices of political parties in response to his nomination demonstrations have been going on since October demanding a new government but not tied to Iran or other countries and an end to corruption. Almost five hundred protesters have been killed. Prime Minister Adil Abdul Mattie step down in December remember in response to pressure from protesters and religious authorities Jane Arraf. NPR News retailers technology companies drove modest gains on Wall Wall Street today at the close. The Nasdaq composite had risen above nine thousand points for the first time finishing the day up nearly eight tenths of a percent at nine thousand twenty two you. The Dow Jones industrials were up almost four tenths of a percent closing at twenty eight thousand six twenty one s and p five hundred was up half a percent this is NPR last minute shopping online increased sales during this short and holiday shopping season. Steve Bucknor has the details with unemployment. LOW WAGES RISING FASTER MR and consumer sentiment high people shopped online at a record pace from November first through Christmas Eve. Mastercard INC says e commerce sales sales rose nearly nineteen percent from the same period a year ago to an all time high despite a late Thanksgiving and black Friday. The upsurge reflects flex retailers efforts to speed delivery of goods bought on their websites in competition with Amazon online sales accounted for almost fifteen percent of total total sales which rose three point four percent from a year ago excluding autos president trump boasted of the biggest sales jump in history about the overall overall sales increased was not as large as last year for NPR news. I'm Steve Bucknor. Japan has executed its first foreigner in ten years. A Chinese as man was hanged after being on death row for more than sixteen years. He was convicted in the two thousand and three murder and robbery of a family of four. Japan has maintained a death breath penalty despite growing international criticism. A Colorado woman accused of hiding twenty-six children behind a false wallet or Daycare Center has been arrested rested on suspicion of child abuse court documents. Say Fifty eight year. Old Carla Faith was licensed to care for six children under Colorado Springs site but police say when they visited the property in November of ember. They discovered twenty six toddlers in a basement with an entrance concealed by a false wall. I'm Dale Willman N._P._R.. News in Washington.

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Bad Boys for Life (2020) | Adil and Bilall

The Qwipster Film Review Podcast

13:42 min | 10 months ago

Bad Boys for Life (2020) | Adil and Bilall

"Hi Welcome to the film review. Podcast minute Vince Leo. I'm the author of the film. Review website quips or dot net checkout over four thousand of my written reviews. You can be there anytime. Quit STIR DOT. Net is where to go. Q. W. I P. S. T. E. R. Dot Net if you're a fan of films of the Nineteen Ninety S. Obviously you're going to be interested in the film I'm going to be doing. Today is the third film in the bad boys series thus far. I think there's going to be another one coming up pretty soon based on the box office numbers this one did but if you like films of the Nineteen Eighties. I do invite you to check out. My other podcast. You can find the link to it at my website. It's called around the world in eighty s movies. Just go to webster dot net. Click that link. Click subscribe. And you'll be getting all those reviews as I go through them bad boys for life it's an R. rated film. It does have strong bloody violence language throughout sexual references and brief drug use. The time is two hours and four minutes. Obviously this is going to be bringing back. Will Smith and Martin Lawrence Palo Nunez Jacob Skip. Yo Joe Pantoliano keep del. Castillo Theresa Randle Vanessa Hudgens Alexander Ludwig and Charles Melton are also in this film directors are a deal and Bella also known as a deal L. RV and allow the La screenplay credited to Chris. Bremner Peter Craig and Joe Carnahan. Got Bad boys three. It had been in the works at least for ten years. The script phase actually began back in two thousand nine Columbia pictures at that time aside. Peter Craig he was the CO writer of Ben. Affleck's the town. He got the first pass. None of the principal players had yet signed on to return but they were all amenable if there was a good story to come back to you in they wanted him to deliver a good script and also pending the studio paying for their higher prices. At the time Martin Lawrence would keep his schedule open open. This can be any way for the return. And he waited on the rest of the main cast and creative talent to find their own windows of opportunity and commit to it David Guggenheim. He was the creator of designated survivor. And also the scribe for safe house. He did some credited screenplay work in twenty fourteen by twenty sixteen. This thing been really moving forward. Joe Carnahan he announced he was revising that Peter Craig script and would also serve as the director for bad boys for life which is what he dubbed it for a pending 2017. Release any would follow that up with a fourth FILM TO BE RELEASED IN. Twenty nineteen however there were production delays of course and there were ultimately creative differences between Joe. Carnahan Will Smith that caused Carnahan to vacate the director's chair. His edition of the Hotshot Young AMMO team remains through the next revision so Carnahan does retain a screenplay credit here in two thousand seventeen will smith. He used the opportunity for Sony to find a new director. He ended up signing on to do other. Projects including Disney's live-action remake of Aladdin. He did contemplate starring also in Tim Burton's Dumbo for Disney. And that would push for the production date yet again. Craig. Bremner did the final revision of the script and soon principal filming would begin in twenty eighteen moroccan-born Belgian trained filmmakers a deal L. RBM BELLA. They signed on to direct the. It impressed Jerry Bruckheimer and will smith with their prior effort back in two thousand fifteen called Black Joe. Carnahan was attached at that time but when he vacated Bruckheimer remembered them and he approached them to take it up according to Will Smith. Michael Bay was out of their price range to return as director for bad boys. Three or bad boys for life so the ended up taking a chance on this talented duo that were far less expensive options. Although they are relative newcomers to Hollywood they do pack their film here with the same aesthetic vibe and that penchant for personality based humor that Michael Bay did so well or maybe poorly depending on your opinion of Michael Bay in those first two entries. They deliberately have constructed by boys. For Life AS Roma's beyond just bad boys day. Dip into the lethal weapon series the die hard series for a lot of inspiration. Tony Scott directed flicks of the one thousand nine hundred ninety s and a lot of other tropes you can find in many over the top action thrillers from the mid to late nineteen nineties. There are a lot more practical sense here. Lot less green screening. I think than a lot of action films that come out today. Delivers similarly high-octane lowbrow entertainment. And it all looks very aesthetically good and that means that all roles here are cast for looks over talent. Everything looks very high tech. The police station department looks like it's in a multi-million dollar command center and computer terminals one of my pet peeves displays all of the blue and bleeps and random numbers and whizbang doodads displayed. All over the place. No one in real life would tolerate that from their computers. Unless you're into Michael Base films for the way that he tries to pick up the skirt or down. The blouses of his female cast members. I think his style is not going to be missed it all here because in every other way they touch all the bases that bay usually does but if you miss Michael Bay anyway just know that he does make cameo appearance in bad boys for life however even if they cribbed from Michael Bay. Who's not necessarily well respected among those critics? Although fans tend to like his films the handling of the characters here and drying out solid performances by will Smith and Martin Lawrence. It seems to be better all around better than the first two films. Will Smith and Martin Lawrence work extensively with potential supporting actors to had a chemistry test for them to see if they wanted to play off of one. Another in the film and that led to the casting of Hudgens and Ludwig and Melton Reagan's Nicky Jam also audition but he had an inside track to the role he had a prior relationship with. Will Smith they song together for the World Cup. It was lit up will Smith. He ended up taking a pay cut for an executive producer roll through his deal with overbrook entertainment that they have with Sony pictures so he gets a percentage of the profit in exchange for lower upfront costs and the banter that you expect from a bad boys film. It's all still here and I would say that. That banter is bad boy for life. Saving grace just enough of it providing the requisite smiles and guffaws for longtime fans to come away feeling like the wait was pretty much worth it will Smith and Martin Lawrence. They were really well together. They're really worth watching even win. Whatever else is going on is not remotely interesting. Smith continues to play the macho shoot. I Cop Mike Lowry. Will Smith here not missing a step. Even though he's twenty five years older than his debut in the franchise well I guess one step may be missed. He's decided that he's beyond doing all of his own stunts. This time out. He said the stuntman can do it. This time Martin Lawrence. He gets the biggest laughs here. Lampooning life as a family man. Marcus Burnett. He clearly craves putting down the dangerous light behind him to fulfill his new role as a grandfather. His partner Mike gets gunned down by this up and coming Miami crime kingpin named Armando Armas. Who POPs a few rounds into him at the direction of his ruthless mothers named Isabel? They're getting revenge on all of these cops lawyers who took down her drug lord husband years before unlike the never subtle. Michael Bay. A deal and bill do show a lot of cleverness in their delivery to make a handful of their scenes. Rise to the top of the franchise through montage that depicts contrasting lives of vengeful Mike. And they comfortable retirement. Marcus Mike cranks down on gearshift during hot pursuit. And then you see Marcus. Pulled DOWN ON THE LEVER TO PICK UP THE FOOT. Rest of his recliner. There's a few running gags like that moral scenes like this. I think would be welcomed. They do remain more. The exception than the norm here but due to Marcus making a pact with God to hang up the bad boys life if Mike Pulse through from his shooting he refuses to join forces with his longtime partner on exacting revenge on Armando and to help supplement the cover loose cannon Mike teams up with the by the Book Ammo Division of the Police Force Group of young guns with high tech weapons and of course when tragedy strikes once again mark is going to get off that recliner for one more chance at the guts and glory to ride or die with the bad boys. You know the action. Alas they're all still here a couple of surprisingly well done. Emotional beets are here to enough for this to land about as well is one of the latter half films in the fast and furious franchise if you'd like those films. I think you're probably enjoy a lot of what bad boys for. Life has to offer the quality of the film. Though I can't get to ecstatic. The film does begin to go astray during the finale. It bites off more than it can chew in this story department and really asks us to try to believe in black magic witchery and a backstory to Mike. Lowery's past needlessly ties him to the bad guys in ways that raise far more questions I think than answers by the time it rolls credits but given that it seems like it's going to be continuing on with the fourth film. I guess it does have a chance to answer these questions. But in addition to that there are some echoes here in the reveals that will remind you of will Smith prior film called Gemini Man. They're really connected in a lot of ways in terms of the plotline and they do both share the same composer Lorne. Balfe a lot of this plays with the formula. You've come to know and maybe love maybe despised from the bad boys. Films does resurrect a lot of the greatest. Hits that you expect. From the first two entries and two decades of Paso there are gags growing older that pepper a lot of the Dialogue Viagra. Riffs and hair color product jokes and needing eyeglasses. To see whatever you're looking at with your pistol and a lot of this is in service of pleasing the fans and you can't say that it doesn't deliver the goods for those who are looking for not much more than jocularity. And I Candy Action Sequences. I think if you're looking for the franchise to transcend its formula to be something more you're GonNa come away pretty empty handed here. I would say it's probably a better film in terms of quality it's definitely much more competently made than the previous bad boys films. I don't know if I find it better or worse than the first bad boys but it is close to the spirit of Michael Bay's original but if you know mean you know my reviews you know that I found bad boys to be overly long and just got awful. I thought that bad boys two was one of the worst films of two thousand three so by actually delivering something relatively competent. Maybe people might be overpromising bad boys for life. I think if you love films of the nineteen nineties I have trouble myself with a lot of those action films. But if you do love those films you'll find plenty here to admire the requisite slow motion action sequences wall-to-wall soundtrack than this Daljit All of that kicks in whenever you hear the familiar score from the first film all over again. I think thankfully it's over twenty minutes less in run time than bad boys two but still that blaze for life is probably in my opinion twenty minutes longer than it really needed to be to deliver. Maximum impact somewhere in this mix. I think there is actually quality movie that you're ends to break free. But there is that leaden and misguided backstory for its villains. Maybe one boss villain too many here. I think anytime the bad boys are off the screen and the bad guys are on it. The film does begin to feel like it's trying to drive with the emergency brakes on. It really is sluggish. So I if you do like the first two batboys films if you even like that voice to then I think the bar is sufficiently low enough. That voiced for life is going offer. Plenty more for you to enjoy. It does offer some of the best character moments to acting performances. Here by the leads is the best. In the series thus far but good storytelling continues to elude this franchise unfortunately a lot of the levels of cartoon violence the prolonged shootouts. The explosions Galore. They have dominated all of these movies so much. That dance are likely never going to accept sacrificing the formula of the bad boys films in pursuit of a good film. And that relegates these bad boys franchise films to be bad for life. So it's a real close call. Actually I really tempted to recommend this film with a three star rating because it does deliver the goods but as I sometimes say it delivers the goods. But it also delivers the bad. So I have to hedge my bets here. I do like the first bad boys by the way I do recommend that film. I hate bad boys two. I almost recommend bad boys for life. But it's just not one of those films that I can totally get behind but I do think that if you are a bad boys fan through through. You will come away liking this. But if you've been somebody who's been relatively unimpressed or maybe it's not your bag. These bad boys films. I don't think this is GonNa be the one that turns you around. It definitely is very much in keeping with the spirit of the others. Even though it's probably less offensive than those other films in a lot of respect so two and a half star is going to be giving bad boys for life by the way if you do end up seeing this film just know that once the credits start rolling. Don't turn away. There are a couple of extra scenes at the beginning of the closing credits including one that seems to be setting up for the inevitable sequel. That's GONNA come out probably within the next couple of years so stick around for that. Thanks everyone for listening. I hope that you enjoyed this review. If you have your own thoughts on bad boys you impart them to me. You can find my contact information on my website. That's clip stirred dot net. Twip DOT net. While you're there I do encourage you to check out my other social media listings might twitter feed my facebook. Page my instagram. You can even just email me can do that. All at my website clicks dot net until next time. Thank you so much for listening and Pleasing Joe. Your time any time you get to go to the movies.

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Adil El Arbi & Bilall Fallah ON: The Journey From Film School To Big Hollywood Success & Giving Back Along The Way

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

1:12:49 hr | 10 months ago

Adil El Arbi & Bilall Fallah ON: The Journey From Film School To Big Hollywood Success & Giving Back Along The Way

"We did this movie. Came out in two thousand fifteen and he blew up in Toronto Film Festival. A won a prize there and that's our outdoors of Hollywood opened right away in the first but user to see. The movie was Chaz God Jerry Bruckheimer and when we thought hey everyone welcome back to on purpose. The number one health podcast in the world where we get to dissect stories of people. Living with purpose people are living with meaning people who are living an incredible life based on their passion and transforming lives and the world through it. Now today's guests if you haven't heard about them. I am so excited for you to learn about them. Not only they listeners of the podcast that dear friends of mine and they've made an effort to be here in between the crazy schedule of what they've been up to so. I'm going to tell you about our two incredible guests today and here. I go so Eddie. Rb and Bill. Al Falah are the newest set of big budget studio directors. You want to keep tabs on Moroccans by way of Belgium. They punted him film school and are known for writing directing the Feature Films Image 2014. Black Two thousand fifteen and Pat Sir. Twenty eighteen and they are the directors of the smash hit bad boys for life. If you're not seen it makes you go check it out. I saw it twice in the week that had dropped starring. Of course the one and only will Smith and the awesome Martin Lawrence El Arbi says our movies offer a generation who doesn't have dreams. We want to give them a voice. I can't wait to hear their voices today. Welcome to the show a deal and below. It's so good avenue. I was excited for you guys. Energy to come to the podcast. I remember the first time we went out for dinner. And then when we hung out together and then back at the premiere as well. I mean you guys just you literally. Who's authentic? You just have the energy and vibe like whenever I'm with you I feel like you're being totally yourself. You're just super down to the super grounded and despite all your amazing success that you have just good beings thanks a Lotta comes from us. I mean I mean it's such a big honor to be. Yeah and privileged. I'm excited dive into a stories today. You've got a phenomenal story. And I think anyone who's listening and watching today. This is one of those stories. That's GonNa make you dream again. It's one of those stories that helped you realize the value of hard work and the value of what it takes to really chase your dreams and I think both of you embody that so so let's dive straight into it and I want you to talk about the first thing. Is I want you to tell me about funny. Memory that you to shed at film school when you met in Saint Lucas while sint Lucas in Brussels was a very artistic school any was actually full of white people. And we're MARACAS and really hundred percent and you know I was very shy another really sociable and didn't talk a lot and I also didn't know how to dress well so it was like you might corner and then came somebody. That was really loud. I wasn't wasn't that loud but it was like the fresh Prince came in Frisco Brussels was talking to everybody and I was like who's the loud guy and I was like I only saw like white people. What's what's going on in the corner. I saw a deal Morocco. Morocco went to him as a young Moroccan as a year and then we became brothers and will form the gang right away then. Yeah that's amazing. How old were you guys that I was eighteen? And there's been a fourteen years of being friend exactly. Yeah that's a real friendship man. May It's amazing that did you ever imagine then when you guys were eighteen year up from school you both see each other to Morocco like. Did you ever imagine that you would make movies together? One day well. I always thought I was going to be lonely filmmaker. Yeah I was. I was going to be like a dictator first movies. I was like handling the on camera. My I did everything myself because I couldn't give it to somebody else. So yeah you have your own vision like that you know but when we became friends we were helping each other out with movies and step by step. We realized that we had the same ideas. The same vision also when we would read like a script or a story we in our heads I will explain to him. How a seed visually and how to get it with. Kadam music and he said I got the same. Yeah it was like super freely. Yeah I it's it's really phenomenal to have feeling like that like you see somebody seeing the same thing. That's that's that's like Jerry. Yes now first of all I was thinking what the I got a beat these guys in the beginning. You're thinking is this person just agreeing with everyday. That's amazing very by the way I just wanted to say and I'm saying is wherever watching. This is the first time we've ever done a double guest you history for the podcast and you've already raised the body chemistry here right now. Next time we have double guests is going to be hard work. You guys just how did you? What did you learn about yourselves in each other in in developing that collaboration? Because I feel like when you're eighteen. We have this childlike collaboration of all. We'd love to work together. Be Cool but now that you actually doing it as adults and you've made multiple movies together. Is that what have you learned about collaboration and working together in the process? Well being Collaborating because I was like a dictator theater and I want to. Nobody can touch it. I I learned to like listen to all the ID's and be open and and absorb everything. So but I was. I was like I everything. Yeah Perfection is and he learnt me most of you have to let it goes sometimes. Let them lose as working forever. On one thing for me. I was country of us at that time. Really happy to fast like as good enough to put too much effort. Nobody's GonNa sit here and he was like no man. You got to pay attention to the details. So He's crazy perfectionism. And My Lazy Dan Nonchalance. Just let it happen that that combination made it work like a very good balance. You know so good hearing that because I think there's so many people listening and watching right now and the reason I want to do everything on their own or I know a lot of people say to me to be in a team like I need to work with people around the energy and it's fun to see how both of you actually thought you were independent. You found your complementary skills and that's really good to him I love hearing. Yeah language yet. Teamwork is centrally. Everything we do. It's it's actually the most important thing if we start a project and he's just like family like a team and yeah and bring the best out of everyone to bring the best project because we're making movies it is like you're in a football team. Basically you gotta you gotTa have you all. Y'All players like red devils and well Tottenham's Yano you tonight. Because you know tongue into their bodies We used to fill any CD cat. Who while the Premier League practically the Belgian Lee? Exactly exactly. We had good amazing team. Okay move away from folks. We'll get to more serious stuff but it's interesting. I don't know if you read Bob Ideas Book so in in Babacan Book he talks about how like a one point Steven Spielberg Quentin Tarantino George. Lucas would get together and watch each other's movies and give each other feedback. Yeah it's amazing to hear that like I mean do you feel that now that you're in La and you spend more time here like who do you. Guys go for mentorship and feedback and learning from. Well obviously working with well and and you know that's that's like for us. That's like a mentor. You grew up with him as an actor but also a great filmmaker with so many ideas. And then we'd be Jerry Bruckheimer iconic producer one of the most famous producers in the world. So those people that we work with that was already like I circle. But now we hear that so many directors that we'd love to meet that that we're big fans of a scorsese if we could meet him one day or Tarantino or field but also new generations you know if he hears US Barry Jenkins would love to be your boy A. We did that in Belgium. There's also a new generation of filmmakers that are starting to break out also internationally in television and we all friends we all watch the other stuff and it's great to see that we're basically all coming together in Hollywood now so on the Belgium France. Your Rio. Really have that okay. This is awesome before before we dive into the main part of what I want to talk about today. I want to hear the one thing that annoys you the most about the other person and and the one thing that you love about the other person with the annoying annoy. There's a lot of things a lot of things Yeah I know it's difficult to choose one but I mean there's like a small things it is you know it's for some reason. You always like like slurps sucks on his food an EEO is like like when he eats open and as sounded so annoying. It is I. There's only one sound and there's a so that makes me nervous really started to get difficult. You don't just urine Yuzo Redo a headset. Then we don't talk to each other. It's what am I love? What are you guys have a Beijing? Well one of the things that could annoy me but actually also is the fact that he's Besides the movie perfectionist is really like let live and let live really like you know. He's a good guy he's really chill. Israel sometimes get worked up about the small thing I talked to him L. and say I'm so angry and he's like come on man. Just take it easy. Be grateful because I don't WanNa be about it and I'm like how would you like you? It calms me down. And the fact that he's really very calm and chill and serene. Well the funny thing is I like when actually when you're met then then he has his driving for that. Takes me gives me a lot of power to to to go and and that Matt or when you're mad you put it always in work analyze it in some positive thing in positive energy. You know so. So that's that's why it's good that we have this dynamic thing because as you know when I'm Alex opposite soul yeah he's been master and an energy booster. There's nothing more important than the safety of your family and home. There's no way to have peace of mind without simply safe home. Security is basically getting commercial grade security before your own home. 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What's the movie and so my hope was that you were going to bring something amazing to it and you did like. I think everyone watched it genuinely believe that. The storytelling was incredible. The video griffey was awesome like it was fresh. It was new but it still kept the same like roots and grounding of what we all grew up watching bad boys. But let's let's tell me that journey and we do the bad region and then we'll go backwards on everything you did in Belgium. Tell me the journey of Youtube being film school together watching things like fresh prince growing up and Martin after school. And then you get this call that changes your life that that brings you into this world like tell us about that journey there for us when when you're in the art school mostly the train you to make a very utter cinema which is good. It's a good thing it's mostly like art house movies movies that you go to film festivals and stuff like that so. Hollywood is not really a good word there Hollywood like now you're not in the right school. Hollywood's not cool is not knuckle at all and we as you know we we we would secretly. You'll like like action movies. Yeah Yeah do you like Jeb Brooklyn bedpost yeah. Hey what if one day? If they don't make when are they going to make it through a bad boys movie? That was. We're starting to say at film school and year after year. We say they don't make a bad mood because back then we were hundred percent. Sure we'RE GONNA do film school and there we go. We make one move in Belgium at right away in Hollywood and we make bad boys three so that was all the time the thing that we would talk about. These bad moose three specific. You weren't even seeing that. We were like the Babylon cinema back then. Like we related so much to Mike Marcus so we would always have a little bit of. Mikey me but also Marcus. It depends. You know sometimes. Sometimes I'm Mike I'm marcus will ever going to be bad at. Everybody wants to be like Michael. Everybody's mostly marcus and sweet and warm but tell us about that process then so you've had this dream you're talking about you're thinking about which which when you first told me that that blew my mind because I was just like. It's so cool when you've talked about something and it's not like it's not like it's it's quite a rare thing to pull off first of all. They got to be ready to make another movie. Second of all you got to be the guys get picked. Tell us about the process of being picked chosen selected getting getting the job. How did it work? I just wanted to tell another little story So and when I was twelve years old I grew up I was like small and then I grew a really tall and I'm became really skinny and at school. I was like a nerd and everybody laughed with me so I was like a big nerd and after school I always saw the fresh prince of biller and the fresh prince of Valeria started to think like after that guy you know have to be like open and so because of fresh prince has started to think like moviemaker. I can't do this. I CAN'T BE COOL COOL. And basically he was silly. Billy like wheel. Yeah and we'll Smith safeties live. Yeah basically because of him started to open my mind to whatever I can be whatever I want to and to have to make a movie first. Hollywood movie will Smith. It's just like being busy. It all started when we met each other. There was a book which was called black which was about a gangs in Brussels and it was a Romeo and Juliet story between a Congolese girl fifteen year old girl that falls in love with the Moroccan guy from a rival gang and it was a very hard very shocking story based on true events and and when we read that book right away we knew. Okay this is going to be our do the right thing or our and our mean streets. This movie or this movie is going to be our ticket to Hollywood no matter what but it were in the first year of film school and we have funk that first year and I read the book so eight four years ago as students. So we're like okay. We need to make this movie by any means necessary because this is GonNa be the one that's going to bring us to Hollywood and then we're going to ask you about both streets ticket. That was a plan and it was really like that and they were going. They're already planning to make a movie out of that so we will think of. Yeah in Belgium game over here. We are still students so we're year after year. We started to make better short movies in every short movie was basically a sort of adaptation of that book up until we start to win a lot of prizes with movie. That's what's called brothers. And then we got the opportunity out of nowhere to direct the adaptation of that book black. And that's why we did. Then we did we did. This movie came out in two thousand fifteen and he blew up in Toronto Film Festival. A one apprise there and that's our outdoors of Hollywood opened right away in the first producer to see the movie was by chance of God Bruckheimer and when we thought it worked this movie. He's been seen by him. His eyes and in the milk also watching movies. I like the eyeballs of wills car stuff and that's where we got a meeting to meet Jerry like one of the first meetings in Hollywood was a Jerry Bruckheimer office. It was twenty fifteen and he said you WANNA do guys bad boys three and knows not available during which is the same situation as with black. But we're all GONNA have on that project somehow and and year after year. You know we were always chasing it and eventually the Director. Great Guy Joe. Carnahan dropped out of the project and then bad boys all of a sudden in the mailbox descriptive bad boys in Israel. And the fact that you know we were like nineteen it was. We really wanted that. He was a dream. We never thought he was really going to happen. Because when you say yeah we're going to add that that book and then who's GonNa go to Hollywood and then we'll see the movie and then going to give us bad was three. We stayed at nineteen year olds. Yeah we a lot of a lot of stuff really happens. Look so at the point where we got bad boys for life descript in in our mailbox. We were preparing a bill movie buts or the international titles gangster and we were like two weeks three weeks from the shoots so Jerry said are you available to make bad boys and said no every turn it down and he turned it down there. No that was most difficult ever because you were already signed up the whole cool actor and it wasn't. Yeah I could never imagine I could say no to a never leave like I can't believe we're going to say no to bad Bush for life to will Smith to brook to marching laws. 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The story was that connected with both of you that you felt so confident that that was going to be your ticket into the directing world well for us because we were from Moroccan or Moroccans in Belgium. Sometimes stuff you know. There's there is racism. There is poverty and the Moroccan community. There's a lot of also there's crime there. Is You know. There's a stigma so so there were no really public figure of or filmmakers actors. That were that looked like us. Everybody was white basically and also the movie world as well in the TV world. So that's why film school will the only twos and you read that book and you just know. Okay there's never been. A story told LIKE DAD in Belgium. These stories aren't told and a bit about the story. Yeah the story it was you know it was about this African and Arab community in the poor neighborhoods that we really know because it it's close to us. It's close to our friends to our families and even like at school mid short movies. It was like in that world. It was we were making all these little stories in that world and this book is telling and actually you heard. Bob. The real story of this girl that that basically went to girl is in a gang like that in Belgium. She's just an object's you know she. She's forced to have sex with everybody of that gang. It's a very harsh harsh reality that nobody really talked about. And nobody wanted to see that because all the victims are gang members even though they're just fifteen sixteen years old and we felt compelled to really tell the story. Because it's a reality. In the these are victims they are also their stories are worth being told to the world. Yeah it's a in those stores were like. It wasn't a newspaper just one line. Nobody talked about all the violence. There was happening. That world so It it is and because of all these victims are from that world and it's not like they don't care they don't care so having this story telling these from a black girls perspective was this. We felt like this story has to be dealt and at the same time the casting there was all the actors never played in the movie before because in enacting schools or in the casting agencies. You didn't have diversity and we needed to find him on the streets and numerous from seeing some rappers that eventually got the pardon for the first time they you know people could go to the cinema and watch the diversity on the screen reflected. So I'm just gonNA explain more roses. While I was at school I saw moved city of God and movie and I saw like everything about making all these actors were from the Favila. So it it. I had just as personal connection with that movie because if you don't see Moroccans or blackcomb on the on the TV screen so we were forced to yet to find actors at or people that never acted and this project. This movie was exactly like city of God. We had to like search on the streets and we knew there is such a big pool of talent that nobody saw. Yeah so we did like three four months of six months of intensive casting on the street. We went everywhere. I came for every actor. You and amazing or and also nobody believe like really. We're going to play in a movie because it seems something so inaccessible to them and and yeah then we professionalize them. They played in the movie. The thing is like for each role. They were like so many good option. Yeah there was like a over it too much talent so it was really difficult to find the best of the best so what we did at that point because after we had all the actors there was much other talent. We said we have to start this our own casting agency and put them You know giving them the opportunity to do other. Yeah you know. Give the chance because you know the thing. Is that these actors than ever thought. They would play in a movie before well will. Smith saw their performance and people are Jennifer Lawrence of the performance in my garage. And they're big fans of them and who can say that you know that the biggest stars in the world were in awe of their performance people that was just on the streets never thinking that it would be part of the movie industry and that that caused the new generation of of of dreamers. Basically now now you have these guys girls and guys in those neighborhoods of different origins. That believe that. Okay you can be an actor or even a director or even screenwriter and that was very important to another filmmaker. I was like a big inspiration. I was spike Lee and he was like one of the first big black a directors and he all these actors like Denzel Washington. And we're GONNA I was was. He snipes him even even Martin Lawrence he brought them to the big screen and the when I was young I saw saw spike Lee was such an inspiration. I was thinking like we one day bike legal. We basically with black. We had the opportunity to do that. So many beautiful messages in your in your lives whether you guys see them or not like there's so many beautiful ones like I were just having a vision a dream a plan like it wasn't just like Oh we want to do this. You had a plan you like. We're going to do this and this is going to happen. And this you had a plan envisioned it and you've seen it become true whether you believe it or not at the time it was there and then the fact that you're both so purposeful when I hear you talk about. This is not like a strategy or technique like trended side. You guys really care about telling these like you really believe. In the fact that there are these people with no voices they're people that are marginalized and you know not really understood and you genuinely believe that they deserve a voice exactly and to hear you both do that. So purposely. Amazing. Tell me about you. Said there's loads tell me about just one of the stories of one of the actors that just blows your mind or one of the actresses that you worked with that you just like this. I can't believe it because I know what you're saying that if someone came up to on the street especially in those streets and said do you want acting my movie you just laugh at them and tell us about some of those just wonder couple of one of the stories like the leader of the gang is characters ex and when I had a phasing my head you know. Every time I read something I see a face and I was just outside of the the place. Where we're doing. The casting was a smoking my cigarette outside and I saw a guy pass with that face disease not true and he stopped and looked at the paper casting blatch. You looked at it and you want to move on and they say wait. Stop as it come over here. You can do a guessing right now is in no no have to go to my work after like in five minutes. I said No. Just come inside just five minutes and you can be too late as more so he went inside and he got one of the biggest roles of the movie yeah. We were searching for months and every time I saw the actors playing this character. They were always like yelling yelling. It's a violent character yelling and he was the only one that like was super quiet when he called and it was so dangerous things that the character in the movie is like an ex child soldiers because a lot of leaders in those gangs are exiled soldiers and and our actor. He was not a child. Soldier Bahia Live the civil war in Burundi so new so the scenes that we shot with him ways looking at at the civil wars footage on the TV screen. He felt that he he understood completely. Kennedy was very close to the real character. You know. So what a coincidence. It was assigned another story. I was just in the center of Brussels. Either my my my bread and there were these characters like a white guy but he wants to be like Moroccan street. He wants to. He wants to be the most Moroccan of the gang. Why and I was even my bread and we were searching also months for for that character and there was this guy next to me with his friends and he was like he was like like the character and I said to him a and he was talking about this girl on the other side of the street and I said to him tried to get his her number said no problem man. I'M GONNA get a number. He went there tried to tried to get a number. He came back and said you got a number no but next time another girl I said. Okay you must be an actor. We got the crazy to see these characters alive here and they eventually played in the movie and also Y- stories about this black girl and we were the the character that plays the main black girls. She was the only one from the whole guessing that founder only way her way to a set we didn't search a she came to us and she was a fan of the book huge fan of the Book and because of that that she eventually went through the casting because she was such a you know she loved the character. Ever since. She's you as a young girl. Read it and always thought when they should be a movie about that book and that's how she became the main actress of the movie and she's she's she's playing. The movies gets a story but each you guys stories. Latrice Ella Magic Literally. Because when you like this. She loved this book and she wanted it. Just it's so beautiful here like you've really is like it. Sounds like you listen to music speaking to you guys and talk about it because it's it's like he's just the imagination of what happens when you dream but tell me tell all of us about the days when it didn't feel like magic. Oh yeah well. Tell us about the days when you're starting out and you want the magic like this is magic. Wasn't there like there was talking about. Money was low. Minimum production budgets are too low. And you're sitting. I mean we've talked about this just sitting there editing for hours and you're stressing out now. Tell us about like what kept you committed to your dreams while it's when when yeah when there wasn't a feeling of magic yet the thing is that you got a lot of fear you know you got a lot of because there's no guaranteed dreams you dream so big and it's so unbelievable is like she now. Why would we be with? Will Smith Making a movie of Martin Lawrence. I mean there's this special people is for Big Star's no especially if you don't have an example of and people like us from Belgium young age so there was no precedent to it and we had no money our family really poor and what was okay but you know when you start to study. You'll live on your own. No money money and my my family is really poor and didn't have any money in movies is basically a job for either super-rich because you've got mom and Dad giving you know is I- funding your hobby or the super poor. Because you ain't going to get any money for years and and it's not something that you you cannot do that on the sides you gotta do all the way to go all the way for movies. If that's really passionate your dream. Yeah you gotta spend all your time in it. Which means that you don't spend your time earning money and that was but it was also the thing that would make survive. It's like when you say it was our purpose was really the the thing. Okay we in a difficult situation. It sucks where I'm sleeping in his plays which is his parents on somewhere attitude on matches on the ground. But at least we are filmmakers. And you not one day. We got to laugh about this. We're GONNA laugh about this. That was a struggle and the dream that passion. And that makes you feel alive. That keeps you going no matter how hard struggle is and when we speak to young people to students when they ask us. What's your advice our advice always or we say you`re. GonNa you're GONNA fall flat on your face and grants going to hurt but you gotta get up and continue. Just just. Don't be surprised when it's going to hurt. It's GonNa hurt a lot but all of that's going to make you stronger and and through all the struggles through all the heartbreaks and the pain and all of that. That's why when people say how does it feel now that made bad boys and it's a success. We always say we relieved you happy. Of course you happy and use it really like who we went we went was a hell of variety was dangerous like an action movie. You thought you were going to die and eventually you survive. That rides and making bad boys was the hardest year of of our lives. Orleans Rabi the worst year of my life. You know everybody's like Oh what's such fun? Movie was probably also really fun to make it. I went deep man really deep in darkness in sadness and I would ask well it. Well is our dreams. That come true. Feel is going to be a nightmare. Said it's always like that big change big achievements and is going to hit a lot of things it's going to hurt and and you know it's we'll said that it's like you know you're on the mountain really now fast and high and you cannot breathe because you know there's not a lot of oxygen and you're like vanishing and the things you want to go down quickly but he said no stay there you stay on that level and get used to it and starts to to breathe no panic and then after a while you get used to it and the pain and the heartbreak and the Dow's they go away because like. Oh yeah okay. I'm getting used to it and people around you. Some people around you will be on the same level and also learn to adapt with you but some other role like no no go down and pull you down. And they said no. Stay on that level. That's that's what we'll set to me when I was really drained crying for an hour of onset whatever's going through your head is GonNa Be Alright. So they have him motivate you and yeah. It was like a godsend you know there was be assigned something from the universe. God that from all the stars you could work with him. It's much divisional. Speaker will help me because he was. Sometimes you would have lunch meetings and talk about the movie but he would talk about life and how to heal yourself and and as around that period that that I got to know you. You know person very dear to me talks about you and she says you know you should listen to Jay Sherry and say guy and like you know you. Just gotta do your own stuff. Don't listen to all that that's things in and then I'll start to listen to you. And he was like a medicine. They're like WHOA. What is that is if you all my life. J. I needed you all my life. And it's opened up a whole world to me of the healing and in growing and on the spiritual level you know because I always thought when I when I chief something and same for you you achieve something. Then you're gonna be happy and then you'll be like. Oh yeah okay. We're struggling with no money but one day we're GonNa make first movie and then we're going to be fulfilled. And then he doesn't happen. We make our movie but you're not fulfilled and we're GonNa make a better movie we're going to go to Hollywood and then we're GONNA make bad boys and when you make bad boys for life with those two stars and you're on the top of the game and still you not happy crash and then you know you gotta find something else. You're gonNA find something deeper and listening to you. It was. It was so funny that a deal is like before you before. He was like totally not motivational. He didn't like all the quotes. He didn't like it all. I mean he's he was like you got it there. Every time I saw into it only Graham and I started to like getting to the broadcast and that was a and all of a sudden. I see like listening to you to you and I'm like you're listening to Jason. Well kept secrets. So when you bet at Intel him because some crazy and then we saw the picture that you and I took an instagram shitty. Your do not telling him because I was going to. Yeah we talk about everything but you were our secrets that's hilarious. Thanks for sharing that my spirituality. Because we're Muslims. Yeah it's also been a strong force throughout our beauty throughout the pain and every time when you when you don't make it you just accept the fact that God has a has a plan for you and that's something that I always hold onto. You want to achieve the dream but imagine I did everything I can as the most important thing at the end of my life after I have to talk to myself and say you did everything for your dreams and if it didn't work out work is this. Is this the way? Yeah and it's and if you believe in that you accept everything you start to accept everything. God has or in the universe. Whatever spirituality you have. It's I think it's important to to have. Yeah that's the journey to your and you see that in so many incredible people's lives their faith and belief in God. A Universe was such a important thing for them. Look at the people that made the biggest changes in the world they all had. Yes and so you can see how important it is for all of us in the way because you both the change makers filmmakers be a change makers because you're trying to make films that change people's lives you don't just trying to make films now. A message is so important. Tell us about so you talked about the advice that will was given you which is beautiful. 'cause I know this would so philosophical. We had that conversation brilliant. But it's like tell us about the advice that you had to give willing mind. Tell us about that process of when you're seeing with respect these guys. I had to make that trailer with them for me. You and there that day. I needed you help. I was when I got the call to build that trailer so it was. It was the production company. That Sony was working whatever? And they're like we want you to be in this trailer and we want to come in and we want you to be a life coach or a therapist for Willin Martin and it's kind of like couples therapy and they were very respectful. They were like we. WanNa Make Coaching Look Bad. Like are you know this as one and you know. I was holding this excited and and so I want the movie and I was literally I was so nervous. Because I'm like I've spent time we will before but I was like oh so nervous to like be an acting saying the Muslim why no and so. I went to acting class for four days in a row real. Yeah really well. By the way I went everyday acting class because I was like I can't go in there and not feel comfortable and confident as I went in there and I was like. Wow this is gonNA. When you've looked same with me. I grew up on fresh prince. My favorite show of all time at. What's a million times every episode? I feel everything you guys are saying. How hard is it? Then go in there and then have to give advice. Give feedback give direction as directors. Tell us about that. Well it's you know. I was seven years old when the first bad boys was made and now twenty five years later. You're there and you have will Smith and Martin Lawrence these characters who know everything who know the industry thirty years in the business and thirty years. That's our age and and then just two rats from Belgium and then you have to say to will and Martin Look. You could do this better and they could easily say. I've been doing this for thirty years. You know and they never did that. They never said that because unbelievable how humble they are yeah they would ask us well and Martin so you think it. Is it good in the beginning like you will? Martin is GonNa say anything but but the thing is that they chose us. They chose us to be their directors. So they want you. They want you to direct them and yeah. Sometimes we'll the first week we'll test it us. Invested US was something he didn't want to do. He didn't want to wear the badge the badge on the chain for some reason he didn't know and every time he had a super cool. Yeah the Miami. Bet Of the second movie. You know they have that and then you know every time. He had a good argument. Filmmakers argument like scenes in no we at the bar. We not on the intervention. So no reason to do it okay. And they'll senior L. We just walking here. We're not in an interventional reason to do it. All right and they're always there was only one scene left's if we don't have that it's never in the movie and it was an intervention seat. So he goes to well and it was the first week of Shuzo Ella. You bad shape and was A. We're not GONNA do that. Because because because because because what is an intervention and he said in front of the whole crew. Everybody is so natural. This is so wrong on so many levels. Heartbeat as you know. He's like well he's he's talking is not agreeing with you. Pretty angry and this is wrong. This is wrong and mcmartin can wear it. Martin wear the batch. Well he can't wear then. Nobody forty five minutes and after five minutes visit you you you gotta wear the badge. Okay I will do it for you. Only for you know that it's wrong. It's all who was looking at us and I felt so bad I was like maybe it doesn't have to wear it. We won't let let's keep the bat and we never knew why but I think he did that to test us like are you guys. We have boys but are you also going to be directors and then that process was the whole time even if we add an ID when like why and like asking so many questions we like normally we think to a certain point but he pushes us to go all the way. Why as a filmmakers creative standpoint do you WanNa do that and if you really as a creative you want to do that? He fights for a falls on the sort for your ideas. That was really great. That's awesome that's great to hear and this is. This is what I love about. This conversation that we're having is that people see like getting. The movie seems I can achieving but actually the challenge starts there. Yeah because you're now in the big league you're now working with people that you admire and on top of all of that you've got to realize the fact that now you being judged for real directing real filmmaking on a high level which seems like Hydra how did you guys prepare yourself to F- to learn how to be open to recognizing that now the challenge starts and still allow your creativity like doing black. You had a lot of guerrilla filmmaking trying taking risks you like how did you get the energy stay or did you actually have to change energy? Well where our cameraman hoping they have great guy who did all our students short movies and all our work for them. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah the story that we basically said to Suny okay. We only have one. Requirement are director photographer cameraman. It's is rob is a guy who all Belgium movies without him. We don't do the movie and we were prepared to turn the movie down if we didn't let me we ain't going to do the movie without Russia and all of a sudden these fifteen year old looking guy who never made a big Hollywood movie makes one hundred million dollar movie with David this great stars and that was imagined as studio and Jerry Bruckheimer and you have to young guys never made a like a big Hollywood movie. Our biggest budgets three million and this is like one hundred million and then the cameraman is also somebody who never did like the. Who's in charge for all the image guy like us and but having having three basically help does in eventually thinking. It's the same as making a movie in Belgium because the first couple of weeks you don't breathe you don't sleep like dead or alive. I it's like I. It's also weird because it's like a dream you don't is we're to be on sets of a big Hollywood movie with like two hundred fifty people and being and move yourself iconic. We always thought WH- an episode of punk based GonNa come and say I just actually guys because you don't you don't belong there you enter the making of or something and the and the thing is the eyes of the world on this movie whereas when you do a Belgian movies only is of some Belgians. You know if you tag. Nobody's going over there. If you crash crash hard in this there are so many fans in the world. I grew up with that. You don't want to. I mean yeah and the thing is that it's like as if you're okay you in the war or you you gotta jump in the water and either you're GonNa like sank all you gotta swim. Even you think I cannot swim all that ocean. You'RE GONNA have to learn and do that and it's and before you know when you do that. That switch not thinking too much actually nothing over thinking maybe not over thing. Yeah but you broke through imposter syndrome. Because that's what so many people struggle with that when you finally made it into what you always wanted and now you like or maybe I'm not actually meant to be able like maybe we don't deserve to be here like makes us deserve to be a what made you trust the process is what made you feel like you worked for this and we're going to deliver some because when you watch the movie. I mean there are so many great parts in the movie where I'm like. I love the part where you think it's a funeral but it's the wedding. I love in the beginning. You think it's a car chase that ends up being run into the hospital all those moments of genius and brilliant and they shot so well that you completely are in and you think it's something and I'm like you definitely owned it. Yeah owned it like there was no pardon me. If I didn't know you guys let's say I didn't know you and I went and watched the movie. I would not have known that someone who'd never made one hundred million dollar budget movie made it just never even think of it right. But that's why I'm happy. No you guys because it just makes me believe even more. That imposter syndrome is just a belief set. Exactly the thing you know. I mean the impostor syndrome which be just once in a while we were looking at each other and look at the DP. And it's weird that we hear right and if you look at the Monitor you have will. Martin Jerry like Whoa. That's some freaky. And then he goes away right away. Because you've gotta work and the thing is that that you got to power through that but also it's it's the crew in the Caz around you the trust that you get from people that become family when you feel like you're you're between friends between family. That is what really helps. The most going through the impostor syndrome fills feeling safe. And feeling the trust and the love of everybody around you and and and that's and that's the same thing with you. You know. We were scared of going to the park out because we listened with BIG FANS. Huge fans of your podcast. We listen to that. And we're like WHOA. How deep everybody's speaking? How we like to a lightweights talking about with you is we feel like Bro namely and that's what helps is going that trust and I love that carrying and respect helps us just go with the flow basically. Yeah how many days I had doubts. Doubts doubts like I was thinking. I am totally. Not Good so many times. But it's the that surround us like an super important aspect in this process and you guys are natural storytellers. Even when you're telling the story of the actors people like you guys a brilliant like that is. It's I felt your energy when we met and when I wanted you on the podcast is because I wanted people to feel that just and I love how genuinely vulnerable. You are about being excited about what you're excited because I think what happens sometimes. Is Sometimes people make you go somewhere and they act like. Oh cool about is I remember like for me. It was things that I went on. When I'm on Alad like that for me was just living ellen. Like what's my interview and wanted to be so cool and it's it's so fun to celebrate stuff because I feel like sometimes we get scared of celebrating because we think it makes us look less but actually it's just you're right. We just kids you just. I live in these incredible lives and I love feeling for listen to the bus. We Jada and it was like. Oh my God is interviewing Jada Jada. So it's a good it's I. I like seeing it with you and I want people to experience that too that you don't have to pretend to be someone you're not or you never have to lose that excitement and that authenticity is always been something very important to us and we did everything to keep the same intensity in a Hollywood movie. We could've done maybe any action movie but the thing about bad boys is that these two characters it's us it's a retold with this movie very personal story what it means to be like the right. Get a diet together. I mean sometimes when you know you almost on the verge of a break-up you know you don't want to do the same thing. You have another vision. Sometimes there were periods where we didn't WanNa make movies together like this is over man. I got another vision and and in the end it comes to get him by reading. The script of those two characters felt like this is us out that I think every every human being in the world searches that same connection with somebody that friendship that you know that you know if times go up that did you have somebody. Yeah back and their friendship that Mike and Marcus has is is so universal and so beautiful. I so personal at the same time. It's it's a sister is a very personal story on a million dollar actually. What were the other messages? I think it's important because you've done you focused on making movies. That have message. Yeah I felt when I was watching there were a ton of message is like the one you just shed. What other messages? The you're trying to that you know maybe we need to watch it again and no is that what were some of the messages that were big for both of well. It was working with the grower. Grower die message basically given though I mean when you make as certain have a certain message and you don't want like message you know comes cheesy but the underlying theme and it's it's you WanNa have an arc where people evolve in his Mike lowry character. He has like. He's at the start of the movie a Soda Way. He wants to remain strong and young and wants to remain the image of Mike Alaric and forgets how to become just to himself. Yeah my the normal Mike Lori and set in fact that is growing in rowing is an older. Any any can be weakness. Weakness is not just is not actually really a weakness being able to show a weakness. Vulnerability is a strength. And that is something that he learns. That is something that we do when we were starting because we're Morocco. You're very much your culture man after if you keep these like in the kind of cocoon Orlean on there. You don't let go basically you break yourself you crash and that is something that we learned during the making of this movie where we all crash until it is like you know you gotta you gotTa let it go and you gotta find you gotta find ways to grow into heal yourself and be and allow yourself to be vulnerable and to be open and you really. You really changed. Yeah wasn't like that before but not was bad. Boys really changed him. Yeah this experience as a as a person saw really sharing the yeah. You guys really disrupted. I feel you know. Just what you're just saying right now like. That's what I know is in the movie. When I was watching it that you were able to show the weakness of the character. We all grow admiring one billion. Yeah and showing that it was actually better for him to be vulnerable to that. Yes rather than just continued to pretend and I thought that was really. It was bold as well. It was a bold move now but it was also very culturally relevant right now to show that in a man and being more vulnerable yeah related. You know it's very reliable. All of us and I really food. You guys have disrupted the industry because even when I hear you say stuff like Oh. We're not going to do this if it's not odd EP. Right like you know. Bring your crew with you and I'm excited to see and I don't think you guys are ever going to change because you just who you are like. I'm excited to see how you continue to represent diversity. How you continue to tell stories of people that are not told enough. What kind of stories are exciting? You right now in general. Not just the ones you make movies on. Have you heard any stories really read any books or anything like that that you like on fascinated by this? I know this. There's a lot of stories that are you know. Obviously now. In this time in culture it's a great opportunity to to to tell stories of people of different ethnicities different backgrounds stories. That you usually see that much you know on the big screen a for us. Because it's important where we're Muslims Arabs. Were Moroccan Africans. Things like that are very important to us. Just just as fans in the more and more female filmmakers you know this year it was a lot of of women filmmakers and is going to be more and more in every kind of genre and just seeing that evolution is so exciting an integral part of the Yes to be soupy of his new generation of filmmakers that so diverse and the bears is in total not an English language. That really history. That's a milestone for cinema. It's just us. We don't WanNa make movies only in English. Tell stories if you want to keep it in Chinese language or in Germany it has been German still the fact that it's very diverse and very exciting. These kind of stories. That's that's what we're looking for now and Yeah I mean we would love to make movies back in Belgium as well you know about our community and an alternate that's with with American movies and and in a very naive way. We believe that movies can save the world's yeah. I'm with you. Yeah exactly for us at our two reasons. One reason is just as filmmakers when you are when we did bad boys you have two hundred fifty people on the crew and nowadays we all say there's people don't agree anymore. People are polarized and all that but we got to say that when you make a movie you got two hundred fifty very different people for different backgrounds. Different ethnicity different history different political views or religion. They all super difference on the paper they would say they never will get along and they're like totally outplayed would be war and movie. The altogether like a family working for the same goal working for one vision and we all friends. And then you see the everybody's different but everybody's working together and it's not what you hear. Sometimes it's like everybody's like on their own. A movie set proves that we are all able to going the same direction for the same goal. And it's very naive but I just see it as approve. It happens and in theory they would be enemies but on our crucial allies and friends and family in the care about each other and on the other hand movies is something very empathetic. You cannot make movie watch movie. If you don't have empathy and empathy something that you talk a lot about and it's just crazy that everybody in the world no matter who you are what are you. Are you have empathy for this character? That you don't know security you know it not also fictitious character of tax or from another planet from other era and you feel for the character folly love. Maybe for that character you you you hope that a character is gonNA make it. You're going to cry character dies. And that's crazy that that proves that movies make people human and that empathy exists through movies. So that's why in this very child way we rethink movie. Save the world tonight. It's not childish. Man You guys are. I feel the same way. The reason why I started doing podcasts or media of videos and all of that was because I felt that media changes our cavalary around an issue around a theme. Like when you were able to show a a man's vulnerability now it's like. Oh wait a minute. I think Gloria. But he's growing when he's doing all. Maybe I should do that right. It's like we mirror what we see in media all the time and I feel like media is always gonNA lead the way because more people are going to watch movies and read books. People ARE GONNA. Watch movies then then come to a course or a workshop or assesments always going to be the same way and therefore. I'm so happy that people like you and making movies. Frankly because I feel that our faith is in good place you know. We need storytellers. You want to tell those stories you want to have Deepa messages Bene- smart and entertaining way and you guys beautifully. So we're going to do what we always do on the podcast as you know. 'cause you listen yeah we've added another segment recently. Which I don't think you would have heard yet. Because it's in the new episodes fill in the blanks or fill in the so. I I read a sentence and you both have to fill in the rest of the sentence. So we'll go both of you. Who Ever Goes? I don't mind you decide who goes first okay. Being a director is similar to being captain of a boat exactly. Sometimes you can't beat the titanic. Exactly no you can't say director is similar to is is is pretending you know. Okay good good onset. A great movie starts with great tidal. Okay I would say I would say killer opening scene K. Good all right. The best way to manage actors is being psychiatrists a lawyer politician. Mattis of diplomats. All the skills right. There is no film without empathy. Nice camera working with a partner is love writing together dying together. Nice guys the one film. I wish I made is on Star Wars. Well there's a lot but I would say stores. He's such a such a universe. We know star wars is like the Greeks had their mythology. We have star wars and he just between eighty became a religion. Even though I did it came out of one mind yeah and to the all universities created. It's unbelievable I was it's infinite I would say Jurassic Park. Aarp good movie. Grassy bikes are good movie. Alright Martin Lawrence and will. Smith are both brothers for life for life. I when I first started directing. I wish I knew that no matter how big the move is going to be that movies not necessarily GonNa make you happy. Bring you happiness. It's going to be something else. And and no matter how big the budget is. There is never enough money. Never enough time has passed a great. My proudest moment has to be Lots of other things. I think being able to to show the movie to my dad is to have him in. He was sitting in the theater. Nick I know And he knew also this is a big fan of us. Secret Fan heuristic with fans of you but being able he's there you see the movie and he's the first maybe also. The first time he met will Smith's Because the very first single I got was Miami by Will Smith and he met him for the first time in Miami L. My proudest moments is that I always get going and get going Dead it's the. The movies made this Protestant another man. All right. These are your final five. Your fast five. Would you guys know about so the first question I'm going to ask? You is if someone gave you a three hundred million dollars in funding. What movie would you make? And who would you cost? Oh and you star Wars University. Not based on any books. It's just like George Lucas. You come up with something new and then you have nerds doing fast. And he goes on generation to generation. Like Mas. Like Frankenstein. The movie world's bats. I love it. That's a good onset. Okay let's do this question. What advice would you give to young filmmakers out there you gotta stay true to yourself and do something with your heart because if you make something just for the for your for the sake of? It's just the money you okay. You may earn a lot of money. But YOU'RE GONNA lose a year of mindfulness of your soul and all that so it's gotta be something to your soul. Yeah something that feels a soul and be be prepared to have a lot of pain. Just GonNa fall a lot and be prepared to. Don't be scared to make mistakes. Don't yet because making mistakes. That's when you learn eleven sconces all right question number three your favorite movie and why my marriage JFK by Oliver Stone. Because it's the I was very young. I was nine years old when I saw that. And it's a historical movie about something that really happens about conspiracy theories and it makes you think and it's a movie that has an impact Also in real life because you know ninety two Congress had to release like take out. You know it didn't tell JFK okay. We're GONNA make a movie that has an impact in society in real life. That is really you know. That's that's what we want to do so JFK. Yeah for me it's A French movie called Leeann And it's about the ghetto in in in France In Paris and For me because I grew up with Hollywood movies and this was the first time I saw a movie with Morocco Norway Black Guy from like the same world as me and I and he was shot in a way was like cinema in Hollywood way was shot and then I understood that maybe I can do that to maybe. There may may be believed that I could do a movie and I think that's the most beautiful thing you can do as a filmmaker or any artists is if you can inspire somebody to do it. That's that's what lion did for me awesome question number four or five. What's happening with Beverly Hills Cop for Adam Sandler? What's the story so when bad boys when we get bad we beverly force without is going to be the move? You're GonNa Make Twenty Sixteen didn't happen then bad boys game and because batboys work dowd our we got Beverly Hills Cop Eddie Murphy. Golf is the way we look at Will Smith. Bill Smith looks the same way at Eddie Murphy. It's the tall making making a movie with a legend light that Edward Next level. And Adam Sandler He. He's just cools guy ever sweetest guy ever and he said Hey. We find something to work together. Let's do it. He didn't anchor. Jim was so unbelievable. Yeah and and you know. He has so much to offer. I love it and final. Question is so we can start in this sooner. Sauna Dr Daniel Layman. Who was on before he told me that. This is good for our brain okay. So that's not an excuse me and you're okay. Fifth and final question. What is the biggest lesson you've learned in the last twelve months for you doesn't have to be professional women all? Yeah one well when I'm in a meeting or have some good. Somebody says something good or bad or I think it's good or bad I gotta say. Let me think about it because I didn't do that enough. And when you're in Belgium with the small movie your reaction or your decisions have that much consequence as a hundred million dollar movie and whether I was into Jask for something or I hated something I should have just said I let me think about it before alto so let me think about it for me. Let me say it. It's sometimes I'm orienting and I'm thinking something and I'm like I. I think I have to say this. But I'm not gonNA say it and that makes a big difference because sometimes it's too late and then he say I had to say it so don't regret say don't be afraid. Yeah so I'm starting to learn that. Don't be afraid of saying what you think. The worst meetings that we had because he didn't say it and I didn't say let me think about You guys are the best honestly. This is the most like this is good for our. I'm I'm genuinely so excited to see the movie. You guys are GonNa Create. I WANNA serve point anyway that I can. I'm here for you guys if you ever need me to book Yeah Yeah thank you definitely get you guys copies but yeah don't literally you guys can message call me anytime? I can help either of you with anything and just yeah so so proud of seeing what you guys are doing and I know that there are so many people out there listening and watching that can be inspired by you guys and I can only hope that you continue to be the same way because you guys a great big love. I just wanted to say thank you for being in our lives. These guys on instagram. Go and find them. We will tag them into all the post on follow that were going support. Everything they do. They've got so many more amazing stories to tell they're just getting started these goings give them all your love and all your support and anything that they said because they're so humble that they don't know it. They dropped so many lessons today. There's so many messages for insights today. I want you to share those insights. I want you to tag all three of us so we can see it means that they can see it because I wanted to realize how many beautiful lessons sharing the word. So thank you for watching on purpose. Thank you for being here Jay. And we'll see you again soon. Guys Take Care.

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Adil Amarsi: Tactics And Formulas To Write Amazing Sales Copy

The Hustle & Flowchart Podcast

1:27:11 hr | 1 year ago

Adil Amarsi: Tactics And Formulas To Write Amazing Sales Copy

"This is an intro intro. Intro intro. A if flow chart with four. Hey, what's up everyone? Welcome back to the hustle and flow chart podcast polish them. What was that? Like. Well, you know, it was I started listening to Conan O'Brien needs a friend off talking, and I listened to the one which if Goldblum and he won. Yeah. Yeah. Keep it face along with it. Because what he does see him because I've seen enough YouTube videos and movies of him. And he does that all right himself jazzy with all his body gyrates, everything interesting. This is literally what he likes. Jeff Goldblum show, but it's total. Brian second-best podcast. I've ever heard and you'll love all the ads to because he actually makes them fun amazing that we don't have ads like he does. But even though you'll always on pay off. My beach house literally says this is a section I call payoff cone into beach house, then eagles in the back. House with ads. Well, one day. We'll be running ads like him or something. But you don't talk about it. Probably today's episode. We should talk about copywriting. I guess we could you know, this is we have an expert or something on the show today. We're talking to adult mercy correctomundo and Joe always gives me crap. Because I always mispronounce his name. I always pronounce his name, right? When I'm talking to them when I'm not talking to my always, call them a deal that's true or Admiral I've never called Advil. Addle? Shit. I correct them every time. I'm like, it's not it's not because bugs me because aduls sensitive man, you'll hear how sensitive episode. But yeah, we're talking adult today on this. Do you were on his show last month? And he claims he's been chasing. I think you more than me, which is totally fine of a secret admirer I've been the object of his his his desire five years. He said, yeah. And I don't know how he's a you've avoided him for that long. Never avoided him. I don't remember seeing these messages might gatekeepers must have been to job as gatekeepers keepers ankle biters up. Yeah. So we, you know, somehow adult paid us off enough to go on our show your hand. I'm not going to disclose how much pay but it's fucking shit on. Honey. Not really, but. Yeah, this turned into a masterclass in copywriting that wasn't how it started. But that's well. I mean, we talk about we talk about daily routines and habits and getting into a good flow with your day and things like that. And then we shift into like copywriting talk. And you know, we've had other episodes in the past about copywriting. But this is probably the most tactical copywriting episode we've ever done where he literally gives you copywriting formula to follow like when you read a headline right at like this when you write bullets, right? I'm like this. When you structure a landing page structure the copy like this don't use this word don't. Yeah. All these different little subtle formulas and principles that he uses for copywriting. And you know, of course, he has deeper dive trainings and whatnot. But in this in this podcast, masterclass, basically, you're gonna walk away with all that stuff. So if you've ever struggled with writing. Copy for your product you need to listen to this. And if you don't listen, you could be leaving a lot of conversion percentage on the table. I'm sure you would be. So you're not a great copywriter. If you don't wanna be it still helps yet be a little bit more persuasive with everything you do. May or may not view some of attles, copyright statements. What we talk about on this road. We talk about our traffic book for a minute. We did. Yeah. Auto brought it up because he loves it. We asked what his favorite book was that was the one he mentioned I won the evergreen traffic playbook. And this thing is basically lines out in great detail, our traffic strategies, and because we have multiple little subtleties to all the stuff we interviewed a ton of people. So the guests and their traffic, traffic strategies or in the book as well. And Russia getting ready to update it we did it. So by the time you hear this. There may be an updated version or it will be coming very soon. And we'll either. When it's ready and just make sure it's totally free. If you just go to evergreen, profits dot com slash traffic book, no spaces or dashes. It's evergreen profits dot com slash traffic book and one more time for good measure, evergreen, profits dot com slash traffic book, you notice that like Conan on his show to and he's not a market anything. But he says the oral like four or five times because he has marketers who worked for hundred percent. It's just funny to hear someone like him who doesn't do any kind of ads and leg he gets all like, I don't know. Some people get really awkward and stuff. And it's it's like you like he embraces it. He leans into that shit. He's but he's like a total podcasting newbie. So it's kind of entertaining. Like, I knew what he's killing through for. Sure. But you know, we're here every province dot com slash traffic book to deal Marassi. Oh, man. Abilene kick ass. You have my mission. Let's him. Go talk to adult adult where live. Yes. Yeah. Are you ready for this? I think we people discussion we were just having before we hit record. How do we describe? That said discussion I think we can sum it up by seeing by. Damon? No. It was a conversation about always you Philadelphia. Now, we all have this song day, man. Stuck in her head, and I will learn that and guitar and serenade everyone force real quick. How does it go? Again. Just I'll do the part. I don't know the other. I don't either I'll join L joy, noon, where I know. It's like Damon. The night. The sun. That's really. All right anyway, start shirt. All right. I don't think which on the. This is fun. You guys are in for a ride. Oh, man. This is going to be anything like all show together on my podcast yet. You guys to have so much fun. Most likely will and we should link that in the show notes as well. Whatever. I don't yet is actually it's not released. He's not released. I think it will come out around the same time. This one comes out that'd be cool. So if the episode we did on your podcast is at the same time. We'll post it in the show notes. And if it's not we'll post it in the show notes when it is out. Yeah. Yeah. Same hit. But pretty much anytime the three of us get together on a call. We don't get together in person because you're not allowed to get together with us. Soon. Yeah, soon we always have a good time. We end up talking about comedy and other fun stuff that we won't get into right now. Now, people are gonna be interested. Like, why is he not allowed like, and we don't leave it at that. Exactly. I wanna leave it. He's not a leading states right now killed a man. There are so many avenues you guys a team meal full I can make jokes about I'm like just don't do it. They'll be plenty of time to slip them in throughout this conversation. Yes. I purposely said slip it in. Let's get right into it though. And let's talk about your backstory, we're curious describe addle, I don't even describe him. We don't need to describe describe himself. Okay. Cool figure out a very clear idea of me at the end of the episode. So let's let's get into your story. How did how did you get into the world of marketing and copywriting in all the stuff you're doing? Now. Tell us that story arc there. Okay. So I'll try and keep this brief because I know I can kind of go off tangent. So essentially of preamble basically, my dad was paralyzed when I was five to about seven years old from the waist down to disk if I remember correctly, and I have an older sister. She comes into partial reason of this story. You don't really hate from have up story for the rest of the Fordham say anyway, she basically used so the nineties had two channels in the UK light, you just basically full over you had conto network buses Nickelodeon. You have those in the US in the UK the the big deal. Me being five years old. I wanted to watch cartoons. My sister being several years old. I mean can reveal their age. But because she might slap me the to view listen to this. She basically used to always be from what Nickelodeon? So I came with idea that sit down watch whatever my dad was watching for as long as he was watching. And then when he moved I would change the channel then he can get mad at I'm like, dude. It's six o'clock. Let me wasn't contents. So is fine. But my dad's for shows would down to three things the fuss one was a game show cold fifteen to one it was like, trivial trivial pursuit, but with fifteen people, but you ask them questions to get eliminated around that kind of thing, I'm think weakest link, but Vom, oh, trivial pursuit and more like higher level than colleges because they asking really hot questions the other the show that he loved watching was a show called countdown. On if you guys have that in the US, don't don't think. So I'm not familiar with it yet basically rules. You get this to this two contestants and they have three oval rounds. I think it's like now full many round slight inside the each of the grounds. So basically starts off with they take tons where they ask for either consonants ovals up to like nine lettuce. And then they have thirty seconds make as many was up with those nine less is with with the highest point scented lending potential. So eight was or if he at nine year, eighteen points, six will five I think the small she can go was full you can get lower than full so my dad's in type session with that. And we want to help me look come up with the love woods. But those also mathematical component will you be able to pick either. You get six numbers any Ganey the have small numbers which. One to ten will big number twenty five fifty five hundred that make up like a random number and yet thirty seconds to solve it using the numbers that would given to you. So you like, okay cool high level problems dry. She sold right them that. So the fed one which throws everyone for a loop is actually at most my salesmanship on is my dad loved watching home the home shopping challenge. QVC literally watch Billy Mays two hours a day. So six days a week two hours a day of a two years. I had Billy Mays basically being drummed into my head. So obviously, I learned a lot from him. Anything or was he just like I do. I just want to listen to him sell himself ship. Yeah. That and it wasn't just him. Those like a few others Billy Mays as the main one. But yeah, that was like a huge thing back, then I was like really wide left wash this. But I just sat through it. And then I was like when I was twelve was Levin, Toby as old, mice schoolteacher, basically pulled my parents sign said, you son is he small he has essential with the problem is he writes, very slowly he'll get to the bottom of page like once they get to the boss move page. If I accidentally put like the comma, whatever any any punctuation of the end of the page, if I don't put it publicly the way, I very very much, Lloyd my mind, I get so frustrated I just pay Johnston again awhile like stop the whole page ago. So my teachers like that's kind of a problem. They didn't I g- knows me time. But if I went school now, I'd get diagnosed almost immediately but back then no diagnoses, given which was lovely. They told my parents, please get him to write. And that would just get price how quickly so my dad this as a challenge of this again, he will keep running company at this point. He'd been like does employs next bullets in that business will in my uncle's, basically, they used to get me to write stories full them about whatever was in the office. Whatever I see what I could think about I just have to write a story about around a year late to my parents separated for a little bit. So me of my sister, moved to another neighborhood adds another neighborhood entirely, but my school wasn't dad's neighborhood. So my time to go to school was I think I took like thought each fourteen minutes to school in back total out two hours a day. I do an hour on the bus each way. But it was socially kids. I just sit down basically right down a bunch of notes and stories from my dad and just write about them all the time. This one on at submit these give my dad these stories will time fast to me eighteen years old the wave onto mock thing was my old time oxen coach actually introduced me to network marketing fos, I grew my down line team really quickly. And then those like infighting between me and him. It was it was a bit weird. Site Tonto like trying to get was down line at once his own whole thing. So went online inside looking at traffic traffic exchange websites. Like, I think traffic's will swarm was one of them really way back in the day built my mailing list road blog post about the now amounting meals with time and had ten unique people view this page still little blog a page. I had going. Ahead. Seven painting money. Enjoy my team like seven people add no idea who they they just joined my team on that eighteen is all what the hell just happened. Good field around the around this time. A couple of months later, I end up going to mock Anastasia's event in London traffic, generationals listening cool at this point. I still don't know what the hell I'm doing a, Mike. What do I do? I know a couple people I know about Frank combo, blah. But I'm just a dumb kid was going on at this event. I I get really close with a lot of the speakers who end up eventually becoming clients. And I also realize at the time by wants to be a copyrights because is the inkling sites begin because I o people pay each white. What's that's interesting cool? And then again, they saw door to those sales trying to different things will actually transport myself, and then old change the a couple of days before Mike might nineteenth mature. Twentieth day. I it was a couple months athlet fuss van this of the Roseanne, and I got to crew for the green room and the guy asking what he could. I told him the story about light attempt. You'll see my site some pig people pay the ally. Oh, you're a copyright the hell's one of those. What is that? You get paid tens of thousands of dollars to help you sell the style. Like, he will do that say cool. So so excited I went out by low self esteem Cy charged as little as possible. Like, why would anyone pay money guy with no names? I was meeting networking. So I got a lot of people just being very interested in like walking. They helped me training me a lead me promos and this whole built up very quickly. So nineteen years old gun through did dose. Outling six months time. And so running like, you know, trying to copy to clients and at the time I was like cranking out full sales funnels in six hours chooses like you'd right? You'd be like, hey, adult need a click Bank sales led to Email. Seek swipe file launch page up sell down cell and a thank you page for customers after the vote. How long will take you as I get that done. Today's get that done one day on if you guys remember medical Dax a route. I remember the name home had he had this really cool. It was groundbreaking time. Because what press theme that was like two grand for the what never him. He was partnered with Jason Moffitt little while. So at the time, I like connected with them. I grow a letter forum and in about six hours it was overnight. So he sent me a thing of six six hours that led to went out to his list for a monthly continuity week did twenty five thousand dollars the next morning on one Email. We send out a sent out and that was monthly. That was a monthly twenty five grand becoming a forty nine dollars products. Like cool. I got my chops in what I'm doing and this continued on then like, I build up quick winds to the point that I think my fussed million dollar client. I had was a real estate training company that had about me they paid me three and a half thousand pounds at the time says ten years ago at the time it was round six seven thousand six six and a half thousand dollars was thousand dollars. Al's like, wow, that's amazing side never been paid that much money before. Yeah. But they also factored in gets the fast week of mailings. So what came into the fuss mailing in the first week would be give get up get freak sent after that. It'll be like that profit. But it was a fifteen thousand pound coasts nilly fatty grant to the site one year long coastline. Have people train you have this. Let the mailed Al I remember I was still doing dough sales at the time. And I remember get debts while I was knocking told my phone rang. My Bank asking me for money. I was like send you guys among soon possible some commission only salesman. So I'm not very good at my job 'cause I don't like being told. No, it feels would anyway fast track that through. I'm literally that twenty minutes late again get the phone calls that high yet is Mr. Amasi, please confirm police name goal. Great Oli like just to make you aware that there is a very long. Payment coming into your count. We will be putting it under review. But if everything verifies checks out, which looks like it will. Will basically release the money to inside a week. Oh, great. I call. I immediately got a call from my client like a couple of minutes him. What's up yet? Just double checking the Bank has said that the documents. But we just sent you a payment. Oh, cool. You guys mail the whole thanks didn't even drive. Yeah. I if I remember correctly was they did five million six million in sales in the fussed week after factor. Cousin pounds behalf about three million sales and week factor in the refund rate NFL, basically walked away about thirty thousand dollars of the end of that day there. He got about eighty grand my account the end of that day. I was like. Yup. That's a good number for me. How happy with this quickly job? Going down you I can pass and just face leaves a wind. Save never looked facts. I have looked back couple of times since them just gone on constantly develop McGrath. That's that's pretty awesome. Wait. So you're working two jobs. So that was that was the last time he worked for anyone else. Right. Even fulltime. No, no. I did take one last job. I think it was twenty two and I to what the Christmas period a retail company. That was the last time I had a job was working for retail coming seven SCO got it. So I would question, but I'm a little worried to ask it because I feel like it will come across as like a Dickey question of. So here's one thing. I've always wondered about like really really great copywriters like when a copywriter gets amazing at their craft, and they're really really good at selling stuff through the written word or through scripting videos, or that sort of thing I've always wondered why when that copywriter go and take their skill and instead of writing copy for other people take that skill in either right copy to promote affiliate products or write copy to create their own courses and sell. That course, why why do so money like world class copywriters go and sell their service instead of using the skills that they have to just you know, pad their own Bank account. I can't answer the copyrights of I can answer for me for me. It like mentioned Elliot, I really low self esteem. So it took me a really is still as me we longtime today to actually even be okay to say what I results names guys idea like at we're recording this March as of now I've done like five hundred seventy something million for my clients in the last eleven years of being copyrights. It was those not bad results over actually extremely great results considering the bulk of that only lasts for he is the reason I con is white didn't at least for longtime was identity affiliate promo route I did actually stopped using Judas members snipe ascites. Over the name like. For like, George Brown, Google or stone. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that. Yeah. Yeah. So I made a killing on that. Yeah. I could see that. System the sort of Google sniper kind of concept where you're creating content and raking it for SEO, and then promoting affiliate products off the back end of that stuff. It's the same system that we use to make most of our money today. We just added PPC advertising into the mix as well. Yeah. It's it's a proven system. It was I think after a while. I just got tight alight having tried content constantly. So I didn't want to cause wasn't in my mind. It wasn't quick enough money. Because I was young. I was trying to again, we have this discussion full web when you're young in the app Tizoc world. Sometimes you wanna put your name on everything. But as you mature you kinda wanna take your name off every one hundred percent. Yes. So that was basically me. I was like, yeah. Let's do this. And I was like I wanna like mature out. Just we known for being this copyrighted by didn't want to just be a copyrights won't be this other. Crazy. Thanks as well. But the reason I didn't was I have a really I had a really hard time. We so young had hot time finding my voice. So whenever I wrote copy even content. If you go back to like, if you look at the last three years of my social media, posting any of the video whatever I don't put a lot of stuff out that it's not because I again, it's on. I don't have anything valuable to say why don't have anything like teach people because I do love teaching stuffs the problem. I had was did know had put out that it might voice it make an effect to everyone except try and save come out with a Roach down by the concepts would be really strange for people to invest sandals that have have held. I do this. So that's why it took me so long. And now, obviously, I do have training course, I've reaction sales. Let's that mold Email from stuff. Mass going out in round same time. This show goes live. So yeah, I'm actually moving towards that whole thing. I'm basically stunt Pat out my own banks count. School the other the other reason to I actually still right office of my stuff is savage like how you know awfully like how other people recap about one walk with. Honestly, it's experience and the other is I can't like I get bored. Shitless I get really bored. So that's why usually about four or five projects going same time. No fucking wearing on our show. Please. Yeah. Hell, no. Yeah. How dare I swear. Broke. Like what you're saying? Because I could relate to this. Because I think you, and I are similar in the fact that we did like I did a crapton client work back in the day and various similar. I would I didn't know my voice for a long time at do a lot of public stuff because I was so interested in doing the work that I was doing, but I was demanding you know, I very little money. But then a lot of money for these projects. And I'd be like oh shit. There's a lot of money. So then like for me, I wasn't thinking about the stuff like Matt was doing which was training or an Email list, the affiliate stuff like I was just so fricking in on the client stuff, and I've always been like that opposites spectrum to kind of speak into this whole conversation a little bit. I've always been really good at building funnels doing tech stuff doing written content. It's not persuasive. Just like, you know, how to Oriel type content like I've always sort of had a good grasp of the technical behind the scene stuff. The copyrighting was always sort of my blindspot. I've read. A lot of copywriting books. I've I have bought a lot of copywriting courses and to this day. I think all that stuff has really done for me as got me really good at looking at existing copy and finding areas to tweak it, but I still can't write copy from scratch to save my life. Yeah. Which you have me. It's true. That's I'm decent kinda getting something going. But definitely it's not the skill set. That's why the three of us are talking and tomorrow. There's like a weird thing that happens to where when you run your own business writing copy for your own stuff is the hardest copied or right? Like, you're so close, you're so attached. There's a very emotional attachment to stuff that you create yourself that creating copy to sort of like sell your baby that you've poured your all this time in your heart and soul into like that is the hardest copy in the world to right is the stuff that you have that strong emotional attachment to write and something that Jon Benson said to me when he was reading through light one of my sales. That's that he was helping with. Was he was like, dude? Why are you writing the if you read this? It just means that you're trying to prove to yourself a weather to sell this thing. Like, many goes sounds like someone is not convinced that you'll not convinced the good as everyone else says you all Esther like because I mind my God. I don't know what I'm doing all the time than than just ideas flow out. Every so often I had that genius just out on the champion and then raise lights on like what the hell am I doing mulling twelve minutes, but still, you know, I want to in that time. Entrepreneur at there too. So you're able. Normals relative, your foes gonna say something you said Joe really fascinated me was I actually still have a hard time charging a lot of money. But a lot of money's relative right because back in the day. I was charging five hundred bucks. Like a full fund will end today. Like, some I say Sombo it most my clients me upwards of shifting twenty thirty grand plus sent shock. She do things. But at the same time, I do take on clients that if I wanna walk with them, I will like deal with like just because it makes my life wall. Simply it makes that life a lot simpler, and I'm like, I actually wanna work with you. Because again, I wanna hang out with these people get to know them because I get along with right? Non for anyone that says that this doesn't happen as Auburn that you do Gilbert bit lonely if you hanging out with people have nine five 'cause you're like you cannot understand the ship ago. Yeah. You can't really there's a lot. You can't relate on. Yeah. It's also why you walking late today. Oh, it's two in the morning gug at distinct on as a debt by white because well, I said so the light will like on you do what we do in blowed off into in the morning get over the because I con. That's actually a pretty good segue into the next question and sort of topic. I want to get into is what what is your day to day. Look like when you wake up in the morning, like do you have any sort of warning routines? You know, what is your typical workday. Look like what kind of, you know, processes? Do you have in place to make sure you're getting done what you need to get done. Do you have a nighttime ritual before you go to bed? I'm just kind of curious if you can kinda quickly walk through what a day in the life looks like. Yeah. Shaw. And I'll say maybe two variations one is when I have a lot of client walk on board. Like, I do at moment. Buses when I'm relaxing and researching. This is always failures. And this is only recently become thing for me. Because before you slight gunslinger like crazy, like no screw got a web like six days a week take. No breaks Sunday. It was ridiculous. So why would do is I found my most the best recognize you might wanna get done in my day is I have to writes down. So a typical day for me starts at five to six in the morning attend six in the morning. The first thing I do get out of bed. Grab my jujitsu. Back literally run grab my clothes. Sue bag in my shoes. And I run to my bathroom closet on get dressed better team. Do the whole thing unless she outlaw if I don't do it that way, I won't get out of bed. Not go. So you literally run like your. That's awesome visual. I'm like, I thought that was just a note you're actually legitimately running to get your. Else? Like, you have to run you have to piece. Oh, bad the morning or something swipe running which that was the case, the no it's it's never that case rallied by like a run straight RA bathroom, I take zinc and the other reasons because I gotta get before. My cats jump down from refrigerator. The kitchen, and they know when I wake up those my cats, this woodridge will they know I'm gonna go to the bathroom and they race me if they get to the dole beforehand like push them away again the bathroom because vibe don't they get the bathroom as well. And they jumped in the in the in the tub, and then it's like a real pain the astronauts out sometimes leave. I go train I finish up my moaning classes that I get back because this is going to change after the move. So getting back to a central London is a bit of a bitch getting back to some moving around side of central London. It's gonna be a little easier by get home around nine fifteen nine thirty. I take shower at home because I don't like taking chows Jim take shower home get dressed have been Anna. This again is changing only marginally as of now is still train with my PT from ten thirty in the morning to eleven thirty. I come home, take my second shower. And then I eat something and get started around midday. The new schedule going towards is in that day is once I finished training have shower like after jujitsu that turns into gonna make breakfast and then spending an hour and a half just reading a drawing or creating basically I need. Something creative to get my day might bring bring going after that midday till about usually have it saved to settle about eight PM. But the reality is from between midday eight PM, that's copywriting. What is built into that? Like, if I'm writing something go right between these hours, if I'm researching research, these hours than it's social media posts, I have to make any emails. Right. Any follow? So that people podcasts that put together just anything that gonna do this technical? Of course, I'm not gonna be like, yeah. I don't have the TV on. I have music on. I have Netflix going sometimes take a full half hour off. Just just watch really dumb show. Oh, whatever it is just destroyed my brain, and then come back on charge usually playing with my cats around this time around five or six PM, how some food guessing tweet. And then it's as a reach round seven most times most people don't actually book anything flash seven PM. It's seven pianos round the time. They get shut down. If I'm on a deadline ah walks until about ten or eleven o'clock, if I don't have dead long just chilling out than seven P M F things, which is off, you know, just absent mood. I good movie a weed I wanna read listen to an audio book or gopher really long walk basically anything to stimulate my brain. And just speak to text though, my cold, I see how like a catch up with people. I really want like wanna catch with care about. And then yeah is just rights out though, as a lights out usually in bed for around. Eleven like ten thousand eleven o'clock is d we wanna go sleep. But the realities I usually don't get to sleep until about late midnight slash AM last night. It was like three thousand walling. But six so. Sleep, bro. Yeah. Yeah. You guys can handle that still sub badly still under fatty so can get away with it, like, another six months old men or. Cried the day up toba the day after I ten to eat that sleep deprivation skin age. I think that's what happens with them going to be a little race. All by Ashi. Have what happens Asian men, I'm actually Asian as well, by the way, but like not not far East Asian South Asian. Whole thing after like specified that Americans. It's oh, you're Asian. So you'll Indians. Well, we get a mostly Indians. Now. That's what you says happening like that that that hustle that need to succeed that you get born with from very unjust. It's expected from Amion stuff. Let you won't be loving. You won't be loved unless you succeed totally off. I. Driver at the same time. It probably knocks down got. What do you think the low self esteem came from it was born? That's where all usually everything's from the parents, or whatever they were raised, you know, it's just like frigging onion Trenet get through societal and cultural as well. So like that type process shovels, my point, what was my point shit. Basically like, you just get really tight like you. Save up all that time the tide and then the day after he hit its fatty, the daft Saturday fifty in some cases, like the day after you hit fifty just aged terribly like so quickly and one of my friends from Thailand, and he's halftime half Chinese. I love him for this. We watching kill Bill and kill Bill volume. Two pi main by the dude with along wispy white hair and stuff like a guarantee you guys that'll be me on day after my fiftieth look normal ago sleep normal awake of looking like that. Of nine how stress I have going on. I was like damn do. Yeah. I'm like, I'm I'm almost thirty six and I swear if I get like seven hours of sleep. I'm groggy. Too much too little. Yeah. No. I get about eight hours every night, my rarely rarely get less than eight hours. But when we're like, traveling for conferences and stuff, we'd never get eight hours. And I swear I'm like groggy. If I dropped below seven. We were at pod what we're podcast and just. Yeah. Any conference anytime like even TNC we're like so proud of ourselves to be back before midnight. Just like, wow, we are. I don't know older would just getting smarter priorities. Very it. Ourselves Pat on the back because there was like parties going on every night. And we decided not to go to them. I could go to this. But then tomorrow, I wouldn't feel great. I know smart adult thinking. I think this is the very first year. We're like, oh, wow. That's how it's supposed to feel like building as we get older. The foam of fact is like less and less like I don't care what you're doing right now. So I'm curious as is your routine. Like is there a purpose behind it? Like, you sound very structured, even though I know you're you get bored easily. I'm sure you yet change it up. How does it work? So the way I have it. It's very, okay. So this is quite a funnel segue. So just a little self promo warning guest. So the way that I teach copywriting is the exact same half older structures in my life. That that quote unquote rules the guidelines the guidelines on what I wanna do. And then I get fill those times with whatever the hell I want to. So my mornings always structure that I wanna train. I wanna do some form of movement emphasis, the reason I do jujitsu is because honestly, it's I it's my place to meditate is my place to let myself just be myself and creative, and I live in a big issue. A lot of my friends don't live nearby anymore. So a lot of my friendships cycle has shrunk significantly. So jujitsu is just the way from connect with other people in other humans. And not be like cooped up and be like what the hell the weld is passing outside. I wanna see it. But this is a great way to meet people in train my body enough now so jitsu is kind kinda like as my health in the morning. And I realized it was only like until like last September after my they I realize the reason I really like walking out in the morning in. I don't like doing. Any what before midday is? Because most of my clients don't wake up until midday pasta world. Secondly, I'm not really at my shop is in the morning. Like, I want to kind of relax inn, put myself in put might get my mind, right? Not really worry about the stresses of life. And again, you contact my phone so that that is a double pompous numb and given that myself times actually, choose myself. So it's like, you can have another training session. You can watch a moving that muni read a book you can play video game. You can do whatever the hell you want. You can that that time. My morning is old mine. I can do what? Hell I wanna go wrong. Oh for really long woken sought out. Founded Joe buying. Big issue of yours right now. Right now, it really is. You guys know because we had this discussion. I did not realize that was my realizing that maturing as adults when I realized I have buying my own violence. You kind of like a thing will here's a little side note, just for folks listening. We told adult about how most the furniture is really made from one manufacturer. And Adam ruins, everything is amazing show. Just probably piss you off a lot. But you learn a lot. Yeah. And learn about how the furniture industry is basically fixing prices to screw people over in pretty much every other industry in different ways. But yeah, carry on throw that up. I agree. Like, you guys told me about blew my mind was like. That let you hate them. But also you like, I totally respect. Joe hustle. Again has to be done. But the way it looked like Saft that might might eat patent is something, but by p t and everyone telling me awful because I've never really had a good eating passing by just don't eat a lease three or four us for like to eat in the wake up allows and good about. Why daylight full walking the afternoon, I realized that's why most productive when the sun is up. That's my light to what when the sun is down. Don't like to. I'm just like I can do podcasts in the evening. I try and schedule my shows throughout the day. But if that's the reason I schedule run sold out nine PM by eight till nine is my lash Slaw any of my shows, and I'll take Kohl's than because I'm token. It's okay. I'm doing podcasts into tainted. Likes those really happened. The evening is just fun time. It's like do things that are interesting that a fun. What can I do to relax? A Meghan go see friends on my just gonna light chill out with my cats and play with them. I going to play video games playing piano. I'm gonna just gonna find a way to express myself autistic Lii in any single way. All m I just gonna try and get some will walk done because that's an option on deadline. That's not nine ten times. Evening time comes I don't wanna buck like. Yes. That is my time to chill the fuck out because my time to like completely unplug and send you guys really random messages. Really really mean? And I'm like gonna find a way to respond the so you guys get you get Fugate. It is a random oddball hours too. It's like you should probably go to sleep. Do you guys will figure this out as well? Like, you will when I'm writing like if I'm writing something with a client and stuff. I know that's going to be like a launch thing Rodman, evergreen sometimes you'll get emails from like three or four in the morning like from my time when you're like is he still awake writing a sleep? Well, we'll this. I'm just interested. Because like, it's funny. We haven't really touched a lot touched a lot touched a lot. We haven't touched a lot of copywriting like tactics and all that stuff. And would you say that this what we're describing? Now, your routines and your habits and the way for your mind is is that like a good foundation for everybody to to kinda just get in the right mindset to right? I mean for business. This is kind of your more passionate. It sounds like about this. Or maybe it's just 'cause we're asking the questions about we haven't even got into the copywriting tactics. Which was the next avenue. We're gonna go down we guys just Joe's like, wait. And I thought, you know, okay. That's next. Just I I it's it's interesting because I think this is something that a lot of folks don't talk about. And I feel like this is good foundational stuff for no matter. What you're doing? Right. Like, we're gonna get into to to copywriting and talk about some copywriting tactics with the last, you know, twenty minutes we have here. So, but you know, as far as setting foundation for any business. I think having good habits. Good routines. Good sort of a morning routine, and like some sort of health routine that you you kind of get in the habit of doing. And you know, you have hours that you kind of have figured out that this is what my brain is functioning at the highest level that alone. Right. There's so damn smart. A lot of folks figure that out it's like win work, and I'm really gonna writing. I mean, that's like the most important thing. You can be. Yeah. For me. It's like if I have to do any sort of creative writing or persuasive writing if I'm gonna put my head down in rate. It's not gonna happen in the morning. It's going to happen. It maybe starting to in the afternoon. And then my brain starts to fire on all cylinders run. Like, all right. I'm in writing mode now, but I can't rate for like. Noon. It's just not gonna flow out of me. Sam. Yeah. I sometimes Canada. Again, it just takes it out of me. It's like whenever I write anything it takes. It takes time to build up. It just takes a lot of time. And but one of the things that you did mention Joe that we just want to answer is everything. I do I wouldn't say it isn't a bad foundation is a good foundation. But it's also because I've already done all the hard leveraged that hats to my earliest to get this. So there is there are three practices. I'll just have one. If you guys want announced just like three price. Everyone of my young copyrighted light my copy cubs to go through to release understanding how to write do you guys mind just shallows real quick number one pick a movie or book or video game that you are mostly attached to like when you play this. You get really emotional too. It it really does. To if it's video game. Find the cut scenes twelve. Basically read that book watch that movie will watch the cut scenes that of that game and write down whether emotional mock Zovko, you what comes up like pose it right down. Keep a journal. What does it starts telling you exactly what you mostly respond to have. You can understand why you will respond to that. And what it is strong inside of you in how that Aucas connected. You now have the ability to use that same emotional. Whoa into residents. But the presence that you have to emotion inside your copy. You can like the you'll consciously putting it in. Right. Like, it's a subconscious feeling that you're not really expressing internalize something. But now, you're kind of you're really starting to analyze this. Exactly. It's like the whole thing with I went to watch captain model, the slant Stanley tribute at the start of the model credits that that made me very teary, but not night in cry made me feel teary the one that really got me was when I was playing the Spiderman expansion game light on the on the PlayStation, listen as I finish this expansion game. Just had a picture spider man Stanley going. Thank you stand in this universe. And I was like that's touching because by van Stanley like really close like a grandfather son, creative child kind of relationship. And again that roots back down like reason, I feel as because of the relationship I have my father interesting. So I have a lot of that stuff going in my own mind. And that's really what becomes really powerful for me. And how aims Asif last like task by give every copyrights train in the second is to pick up a book cold if you not into this. I do have alternatives, but nearly everyone teach into some form of crime drama. I get them to pick up a copy of Chris kontos crucifix Killa, which is one of my favorite books. And I tell them to read through the reasons because like I have little tasks folding after appealed light report back to me after the red like ten chapters, which doesn't even take on like the champs the tiny show. So they sent me a message and the response I write by flu MS three check marks. Fast jet mach is. Okay. Do you have any idea? What's going on? Mike who the killer is the like, no, okay? Yes. They do. They have some theory. What it is second is do feel like going to look for the spoiler. What emotional is emotionally feeling as the? And what this does allows them to really understand how set expectation in story based copy, but also in actual reading stories it shows, you how to create like setups create that emotional wanting that constant role that want of pleasurable beliefs, but also keeping someone on the tend to hook just that like I really wanted to spoil his, but I won't because I really wanna read this book, you won't you won't spoil it for yourself. Because you you actually want to read it. It's that's the second practice of thud. Is actually really really simple. I think every copyrighted tells people to do this, and I'm very similar sense. Out a note pad and pen additional note Panapa a little note Panipat illegal have if you must and just start writing headlines. Just all writing headlines after headlines look old threat response ads. Right that headlines out see how you could tweak them. An oldest really kind light. It breaks down to really understanding. How to write the the h five cent of the copy like bad as the most powerful is. How do I create headlined the allows people keep reading and how do I stop building that story up? Now, of course, my coffee cubs. This point they know my system of how I write with mice structure. So they know exactly what the headlines have to go what they said lights go. What story pots open two of the van to stand that crazy of a decrease the creativity that haven't my mind. So if you combine those three things, which is unsettled, emotional mock in your favorite movies, both games. Ricotta spoken on down had to build on his patient wanted actual design. You can't do those Steph Stephen King as well. Bisi Chris conto because modern and it really hooks you from the very get go and the fed which is basically get get good pricing headlines because that's exactly what will draw people in those three very pound things. I like immediately. I love it love. How do we? Can you quickly breakdown headlines? Just for folks. Like, maybe a simple formula you have. So people have an idea of how to start practicing these things. Okay. So the first one that you guys know because we spoke about on my show is nephews the wealth lawn headlines any of your copy, actually, and you guys can go with why show with madman? Joe basically way just dissect that because it's a whole rant. The take my word for we've tested. It. Just don't use that. What basically what in short? Learn is like another effort. It's it's it's another thing you have to do. And it's another pain, that's very subconscious people the entrepreneurial and we avoid pain. So dip gamble joke. Avoid you. So there are three things I teach that the my three go To's for my headlines and they discover. If then and revealed so dead simple would be discover how met in Joe figured out that traffic figured out how to create thousands of unique visitors every single day using this very simple traffic souls. Whatever it is that could be and sub-headline to that with the gives you with the legion with revealed if then and I like to have them up so you can go with discovered this whole thing about like getting thousands of unique people using traffic source, if you if you're entre will business owner or just affiliate looking for a way trashy expand your reach than you need to eat every wet below. If then headline affect if it's a revealed headline. It's the thousand unique sub-headline will be revealed, the very the duddy inside a secret, the mocks is truly don't want you to know brought to you by two people who croaked the system very simple is like a way to actually create that story. So the formulas. Aw. Those three essentially, it's the discovery headline has so many formula, which is. Thing about to discover Broughton down into a benefit relates to them. While also giving some credibility to you. So like when the I would use would be. Give me among kid just any market. I don't care. What list will be good Monka jujitsu since we're excellent. Let's let's go like very basic beginning coal for someone jujitsu will actually list let's into media on because begin really easy because that self defense. Let's go into me get by post or light. You jets Kratz shins, why spend money on a course. Dead. Simple. It would be 'cause you can be broken down into eight six six Helen. God hath gone siphoned troll, mount background, and the stamps basically six positions jujitsu that you really need to understand. 'cause his talk mum's twelve still you want to understand six you'd pick one thing. So you'd pick with say take downs for jujitsu, and what you do dead. Simple. That would be a headline. Let's see. If you'll get if you'll getting jitters before shoot, if you'll if you're talking yourself out of gun for takedown against your opponent every single time you start standing the read everyone below revealed the three light the eighteen simple. Take down to anyone can do even if they only unifier lowly white belts will an advanced black belt to truly round out that game and then the opening paragraph which is basically start off with like, well, this is how I came up with the idea of the discovery statement of the opening statement to it's like. Dino rat out that game. One of the west to the Westwood's that I used to face in class was stop standing when Mike Mike micro says dot signing. When we sparring the reason being a new I could take guys down by was always scared of shooting, the double at over think it and next thing I know on my back in week position on top position. I'm not controlling the tempo. Of course, this really used the screamy up competition time really made everything I did a lot Honda. That was until I started to discover how. The eighteen little take downs. You can pick up right away implement into you'll into game and start reaping the benefits almost immediately, and you can be from a very very low level white belt all the way to an advanced black belt. I guarantee you you will not know the full nuances of of the system, we're about show, you the reason being we brought in elite restless to teach this while simultaneously apply high level competition analyzing what makes it what the grips the movement everything is broken down. But before I get into that let me introduce myself until you my own story of how I went from being scared of of take downs to taking down everyone of opponents at will. No matter how good that wrestling is. And then that's when you saw the story. So you have bad lines headline open. That's pretty impressive dictate your copy. All the time. Well, not all the time. I usually do when I get high consult. Yeah. That's that's impressive. Because that's yeah. You were just breaking down that formula. But now, do you usually much the same formula for like writing bullets too? 'cause I've heard a lot of people kind of describe bullets. Just you know, you're right. I shit on a headlines and a bunch of those headlines if they don't become the main headline they can become bullets. No, I have like a different formula bullets. The bullet formula uses quite simple point out the obvious. And then give them a reason. So if like, let's say, for instance. If we were looking at the same jujitsu, Kohl's like module one, for instance. 'cause the thing I don't do. I don't write bullet points in my actually main copy bullet point specifically in just the areas where counts which is when I'm making lists. When I'm telling them what the getting. That's it. I don't do bullet points on clients summarize whole sections of story because unlike that doesn't need to be summarize. You eat the way I look at least by this is a breakthrough for me right now on telling you oh eight no, I really don't do bullet points. And the whole reason for it is it's it feels like an interruption in story. If you story is good enough than people read all the way through until you get the boring parts. And that's when you make them. So how do how do you combat like the the skimmers the page skimmers is that we're subtitles coming up with subtitles? Yes. But it's also find the story. I mean, people do this all the time. It bugs the shit outta me. They have this thing where they write paragraphs as if there was still at school, right? Then not compensation if you ever read any of the copy, I put up I rally used to sentences in paragraph are usually use one sentence paragraphs one line power craps. So the most to full lines and town that was his style new paragraph. It's just totally is that readability for the most part. Yeah. It's just to ensure that when people skim through the get like the very. Very very important key things. They need to understand an old pots folded like media's get them going. Again, go match the whole bullets and just very quickly. I tell people that getting bios expansive, for instance, with a module one the correct handgrips in this module, you'll you'll uncover how to play Sheehan's probably on key and Nogi opponent in order to initiate, the takedown in this module is specifically cover which place your hands on your opponent because placing the belong in this is in front of placing your hands in the wrong place. Even by an inch actually changes pound dynamic entirely. Second bullet point would be a foot placement. Five drills. You need to have a start that you can start today. The will heavily improved a foot speed take down take down offense takedown defense, and the fed bullet point or even fifth would be an so much more. I always in three five seven's not three five seven nine. And the last one's always and so much more because next vacation. At really like pants out, but not fully pads, ipads, Allen someone's mind, if you haven't hot time late finding bullets just get the main ones out and let the and so much more let it expanded the by what the other stuff could be. So when you actually create that, you know, this more than what you've actually said, you just couldn't put into what's this little stinky shortcut and coming back to the skim reading thing people the way say like people will skim read because they even know you or the not really interested like the headline is going to catch the interest. If as video cash that interest nine out of ten times way, look at the way, I'm actually going to be testing is if they know you though, skim through see what the product is in mass fine. Just make it very abundantly clear whether protests what the old button is also they'll go by remove as much as possible if then new in this game reading that is you'll headline hasn't really done that great of a job. Really? Yeah. Bill skim through but they. Don't come back and read it Lehto than not interested. You had lines failed. You you'll copies not really like keeping that engagement way. This new lost potentially. Whilst custom about. Does he go? No, go ahead. Go ahead and finish your thought. I was just gonna say the way that I look at it as well. As like if someone headline and actually read the good headline and they come out late again. Like, I said, very they'll come back in read it, and they'll buy the thing, I'm testing this marriage thing. I'm testing gates is anytime I send an Email to a very very warm pot on my list. I want to build it for myself. My clients I wanna send to a sales page just the summary page is his getting his whites important, click this button, and by no more than two pages of copy. The headline is like, hey, I'm sung was saying read the reasons why below and his will do for you. That's just the headline in underneath that. No story. No, nothing. Just bam. Bam. Bam by issues. Those are the people that already knew you then. No like entrust, you dotting. So that the most big. Skimmers that you'll find the ones that they sleep like need a lot more convincing stuff like that. They'll get sent to the oval has more information and that some one test against I wanna see which one combat sputter. Yeah. One of one of the guys that I worked with pretty closely. A couple years back is a guy named Travis Sega. I'm sure you're familiar with love the drives him. Yeah. One of the things that he taught me to do is kind of like, you said, you you can actually have two different sales messages for the people that are already sort of a warmed up audience at Ardy. No, you versus just driving cold traffic to it. So he had this concept of essentially making a sales page that was nothing. But like, a headline, you know, ten bullets to testimonials, and that's your entire sales page and those work extremely well to warmed up audiences, but that won't work well to you know, if you're just driving cold traffic from Facebook or something like that and we've experimented with quite a bit. We've even experimented with like putting the checkout right on that same page. You have you know, a headline maybe a sub-headline seven or eight bullet points to testimonials and. Than the checkout button. Right and bedded on that page. So it's all on a single page a one page funnel. And those have worked really really really well for us to warmed up audiences at Ardy know that we exist. Yeah. That's cool. I love this formula. That was good. How does this same some of these same concepts translate to video or you kind of? Are you like pure written sales letter, they transformed to everything like it's the way look at when you understand so alluded to this lob the reasons I can run through pots very quickly for you guys. With I write my formula is like seventeen steps all the way through. And once you understand this formula is basically the Rosetta Stone, and then you can go look at other things apply to all of the headlines headline that Cisco page, but if you're doing VS L, the straight from the do is many people have different formulas than that's just the truth to understand fully is Hollywood has different genres that you have different rices full. Right. You have the you can't Magus have the same director who is known for directing high weld class action movies like high out day national movies than turn around period drama. Right. Usually not really hot of. So same thing happen. The copywriting exactly. Like Nisha 's what we have is. We just picked nieces, but the truth is if we have John Roos this different styles. So John's Jon Benson. Who was the godfather VS elemental? Factually, actually, he does his thing web one things that he likes to grab attention, and he has a nightmare story. It's a brilliant formula the way the I have mindset how is once. They have the headline sub-headline, which is to tell them to watch video I go directly into the opening power. So my headline say, for instance, would be discover how you could create copy in less than three hours using a very simple formula. If you've ever struggled to write a copy, I'm gonna take you from a complete novice to seek class copyrights inside five hours what's video below and the videos immediately, go to go into meet moc moc was one of my students who really didn't unsound shortcut his copywriting chops, in fact, after he finished my training. He ended getting his twelve hundred dollar close almost immediately any role that let record time, and it converted. Thanks Elsie wrote. In fact, I have a whole hold of these testimonials. But before I get into telling you what the formula is let me introduce myself. So I've used the exact same formula by done it video. And then just just it's it's tweaking one or two little, thanks. Yeah. I would assume webinars or similar yards just may be drawn out a longer. Yep. Email's the only ones the strange 'cause emails you got a kind of like landing pages of different while landing pages. Just like headline pep lying. Both points often testimonial. And this is a reveal by the way, I started playing with small will back in twenty fifteen twenty fourteen Puna testimonies on the landing page, I'm still consistently. Getting fifty sixty percent often on Mike Luke woman about thirty to forty on Colt. Not traffic. Ogden's even to the point where one of my friends had ninety point six Sen. often on his weapon while but which is like Mike fill same Coleman asked him. How he didn't teach light note by an adult at that ocean school. But the formula that's the formula Flanders the formulas for emails a little bit different. You've gotta have like as subject line, basically engaging. And then you have to have an Email style like story based in quite interesting. Matt United discuss this very quickly give you a very quick outline of how I would write an Email. And the only reason I can kick that off of my mind go through that congruency is because I understand, okay. Where where's the positon? That's gonna this day. So it's always no appetite, and how do I specifically use the formula? I have in my mind find the story that matches them and find the story, you only give you a heads up. This is what I go supersonic in crazy in it's insane. So the way that you find your story. This is another formula. Is you ask yourself resets of questions number? One was migrate to was my victory in three how I get when you that Cole. She have multiple check points and each one of those little checkpoints had their own defeat victory. And how it got over stories figures out will never not a content that is gold of the. You talk about. And I'm sure I've probably told you this off recording before is we try to write an Email to our list every day. We wanna have a daily Email go out. And for me, I'm fairly good at writing the emails once I've got the concept in mind. But it's having the ideas for daily Email that I tend to struggle with. And just what you said, right? There is kind of like all right? There's my sort of writer's block cure for Email. So do we like hash out to brainstorm based off of that right there? Yeah. We have different places. The everyone has these you might be sending the thing. I don't have that many struggle to what I did. If you're a yoga teacher, why you yoga teacher ask yourself lap of because I love yoga, and it's happy. Okay. But why did you go into yoga what was the Kiwis when my back up, and I did yoga really home my back. And I saw it help my mom and she start get better. And then let you have all these different light. Rope checkpoints just basically hit to get to the point where your yoga teacher today. Always knit. It was because you had a bat of back now guess what in specialize in helping people heal bad backs, and you have a business thriving as you just did that that was starting point. So here here's a question super selfish. And it'll be obvious. Why in a second? How would you suggest doing that? When promoting podcast episodes. Do I tell our guest journey or do I tell a journey about like the insights? I got from the guest. What would you recommend in that area? It depends on the million. If you have huge guests like you mean, Joe? With. Such bowl sumptious. Well, I guess we are we are confirmed. Yes. Yeah. Stay. We spoke as well that we just say. I think we just did. So with us. I let anyone knows me. The I know that can you know, we've had conversations they've seen. Why to how just pull copy out the out like my mind just easily? They've seen all the stuff about me. I actually performed an Email. This kinda if we promote in this podcast. I just want you guys. Hey, so this is adult adult is just give a quick outline of how you know me. He's copyright too. And we met through a buddy, Brad. In fact, we put up Facebook post once gone show. He just basically ripped me for like ten minutes before the show saying how he's tried to get me on his show voyeurs that kind of thing. Yes. We actually after have that coal. We realized that we wanted him on all show. So we asked him he said, yes. And now here it his end. This is what we cover inside the show. So it's familiar base. It sounds like a friendly Email reminded from friends in case you need to go check out. Whereas if it's someone that you don't really know all that. Well, let you hung out. With them or you spoke like, you know of them, but you've not really got to know them on the show a little bit. You know, you've had guests for you're like, oh, this is cool. But I don't think speak to them like everyday if every week, I don't wanna touch base lem every week just like the cool passan, but that busy around life, right? We will have those people clearly what it would do. Then is I would use use my experience with that story. So it'd be something along the lines of. Hey, so just quick heads up. Today's guest went from and then go they went from complete poverty had no idea what we're doing. If you'd like say, imagine you like infused Stephen press feels like he was a quote unquote, now dwell until he was forty years old had no idea what he's doing. And then things just clicked into place after forty and this is all the stuff that he did. And he's gone, right? He's amazing books. In fact, when he had him on the show, these the some of these some of the things that we covered in the new put like three to five bullet points. And then you just say as also tomorrow while dues all send out a reminder, Email kinda gleaning off what I picked up from this interview. What Joan I picked from view, but send us in the Email back up to this address or just hit reply old post on us -ocial media page Intel's what you picked up from this. Recording with seen press have the links throughout now. What that does? It was Chris engagement. It creates a social interaction basically makes you look great with Email service providers. And ultimately, it bills in another reason to Email them that day 'cause when you send the next day you like so you had yesterday like we had some great feedback. Wish you haven't put any feedback go here lightly some feedback and listen to the show. These are some things I picked up while token St. impressed fuel and just was bringing cool like this. Now, you hit the two separate promotions about the same caution over two day period. And the that completely different approaches to get people to listen, I love that. No. That does knocks out like, you know, even to more emails every week. The follow ups, and you can always tie back into another product or something else. That's going on in our whatever we're doing. Yeah. And yet release us to that that guest. Yeah. Interesting because with our with our list, you know, when I mail about offers, right? If I'm saying, hey, here's a cool tool that we use. Here's a promotion, we're doing on one of the thing. One of the courses that we sell we get like insane response rates. We get amazing opens amazing click throughs whenever on promoting like something for people to buy for whatever reason when I promote podcast episodes. And I'm like, hey, here's the latest, and we use a very similar formula to what you kind of laid out of like, hey, if we know him real, well, hey, here's how we know him. Here's you know, some of the stuff we talked about. Here's a bullet list breakdown of some of the cool takeaways, you'll get go. Listen here kind of a similar kind of formula. But we get like fifty percent of the click through rate on podcast episodes and just content than we do when we're actually trying to sell people something, which seems very counter intuitive to me. But I think it just shows we have a list of people that enjoy our recommendations and buying stuff. But they're not necessarily always in the mood for content from us possibly, but what is lines generally when you're sending out an Email fro podcast. Oh, I mean, it's all over the place different stuff. All the time. I don't have any sort of subject line formula for emails. How To's involve typically doing those because we stopped getting response from them on our list. Right. But a lot of times. Now, it's kind of more blind subject lines. I'm trying to think of an example. But it's kind of like blind to what the topic is to try to get the the Email opened once somebody gets into the Email. It's kind of a more breakdown of. Here's what you're gonna learn on the road are open rates. Stay pretty consistent between promotional emails and podcast emails. It's our click through rate on those emails that take a big nosedive whenever I'm trying to drive traffic to content versus something for sale. So that that's just two guys quick will ideal. I would simple fix and by the way. Welcome everyone else to the same conversation. That's gonna take pot. You of this is a fly on the wool conversation because I tell them this private, but hey, it's content will be great. If you guys threats is something literally take from this Email intend to a subject line would be if you'll see your sock. Listen to this all if you don't know how to find your job, if you don't have to find your voice, all if you don't act create your own heroes. Johnny has like listen to this click, it, whatever the bland headline is when you went through the copy when you start like, so this is that we know him Bob, by the way, you can even throw like real sense of humor in this. Like, hey, hadel, just any this Email letting you know that we actually like we met this other guy. He's all about Greek guy, whatever in saved, by the way, you might want to listen to this. If you'll business isn't doing these. If you don't know what your stories if you don't if you're not getting least attempts at conversion rate on your sales pages your womb list. If you're having trouble getting. Whatever it is. If you webinars on combating thirty forty fifty percent, if what give him any reasons of web failing in that business in relation to what that thing that teaching what they're talking about on the podcast that gets the click through and you have to make an highlight those high links put those as the hyper links, notably. Like, if you're struggling with C TR, you need to listen to this. That's the actual link in the Email exactly if you'll if you'll sit if you'll landing page copy is less than thirty percent on cold traffic listens. Nine melas to this is like you just have that what we cover in. This interview is white landing page copy below fetch socks, and that's the hyperlink. Tell them to click hyperlink of the what? And then you have one very strong CPA, which is like a go hit and listen to this. And this is wise light go hit click. This listen to this podcast real quickly. If you don't this will happen, if you do this what you'll expect on this show, you give them like benefits. Not just almost like what we talk about like benefits, they could apply. We're right away. An just as just one of those things like for this thing, you can even say like how this conversation out really hilarious and fun than just became like. Holy. This is amass class. He's just letting riffing off enemy. He knows to give you I like that whole. It's almost like the negative spin on. It's not like what here's what you can get out of this. It's like, no, let's look at what you already have. And if it's not actually meeting these benchmarks that we put in these hyper links people are like oh. Oh, intrigue myself to that point. One of the things that Travis say go used to always say probably still does seven talked him in a while. But he always said that people are way more willing to spend money to move away from pain than they are towards pleasure. There you go. There you go. So if you're if we're writing copy, that's essentially like if you miss this. Here's the potential consequences. I think that's way more powerful than listen to this. Because here's what you're gonna get room. And it's yeah. And these people are in the game already. They want to improve. It's not like here's what I can do. It's great. I don't really need it. But like, I got some and shit ain't working. His real powerful aspect you want only make that his what you're gonna be missing out like ten to twenty percent of copy the rest being the other way of what will game. It's a blend. It's one of the reasons why my sales flexes do high than most others is because I fall Jay process. Like, I'm not gonna stab you in the back and make you feel like you'll shitty. And then you have to buy from me to relieve this pain, rather, I'm going to make you aware that you will, you know, if you don't take care of this Beasley consequences, but the rest of the copies telling you about the promised land like it's not all gloom doom in hell. It's like, hey, his will reasons why you wanna go to heaven. But hey, just a quick heads up. These things will get you to hell Jensen's. Like, no, it's like a dynamic conversation. They get both sides. And that's what causes fine friends. Yeah. I love it in relatable to you. You understand the issues they're going through and what their possible capable of. Yeah. Likely. I love this. I know I'm sure we can actually probably carry on for another hour and a half, but due to other time constraints. We have today, unfortunately, we're going to have to wrap up, but I can also. Most guarantee with no doubt, in my mind that they'll be around to at some point pretty pas if you're open to it that that is a strong on making on my part strong. I'm sorry. I made the assumption that we have friends that you made social we're on a podcast. It's pretty pretty much golden. He was going for. Risk put himself out on a limb and it paid off. I think paid off. It's cool. We're still talking more. So it's also in public record now so shit. Editors right? Noory times. No, we're friends. Right. No. And then just move on with the conversation never address it again, like editing. His magic, dude true. But then again, I sound relying on the propensity to know that you guys don't like editing. Accurate in. That fact found are hell right there. We do not at it shit on this podcast. We were doing around when walked away for twenty seconds. Are we walk for twenty minutes, and it going to spit random crap promoted stuff, and we're never going to know because it just goes alive without us, actually. Here. We messed up if you listen to transcript of this. I think I actually did that for like twenty minutes. It just went on. It's if we weren't enjoying it. We would've stopped you trust me. That is true. Matt I did not look at each other and be like what? All right. So a couple last minute questions before we wrap up here. You actually already mentioned one book in the call the the crucifix killer. Wisconsin Chris Carter. Yep. Any other books that you highly recommend our audience, go checkout or that you tend to refer to often or that you recommend often. The laws of human nature by rob green that just came out. Let's excellent book to understand how people think at really is in depth. Like, I'd suggest get in the audiobook version because it's twenty hours of content. Get both like use as reference manual trust me, it's worth the if you on audible site one credit so gach while meme ships, what the twenty five bucks, you'd pay cool dividends of the other one also pick up photos of how you can get that on YouTube or whatever the law. That's the only Robert Greene I've read and that was the one that was referencing fifty cent. But it's really good. I listen to it on audio book fifty cent actually voices his parts. It's it's an excellent book is basically every rob green book is one of my favorite books. Everything that he's done. So if I had my one start with Lowes, human nature, Berlin, Dan, Leslie, Don, Leslie, does the voice school the forty pound. You guys love his voice. It's it's so wealth that flap of John but moving on another book vote actually recommend everyone pick up. We'd. Asimo to do with like story based on the standing is wide story by Lisa Kron that CRO N. What was the name of the book? Again. Can you repeat that why full story wired for steward for story? Okay gun. Yeah. Great book like absolutely amazing. She basically teach you took a reader in from the get go when writing a book, and you take those same principles and put them in your business to go. But yeah, those those are the boats another one the evergreen traffic thing was called evergreen traffic with playbook yet. That's a really good book to read like him authors like a little bit that they'll Jackie sometimes you get along with the find bigger they can really be Dick's. But the presenters were the I think they know what they're doing the, prima donnas. Their egos are like insane reserve there is no roof on madhouse anymore. Because are you goes busted through you, go? It's crazy. Do you have any like, tools or software or anything like that? You just can't live without now that you use them. God though, so many let's go with. Slack is pretty good though. Still not huge fan of it by duly cycle. My phone's look you get better than that. Yeah. Oh, I don't get into like. So brain FM is one of my favorites. A good one. I yeah, I'm surpri-. We I don't think I've heard anybody else recommend that in a long enough M's. Really? I love that kind of stuff brain. We got a great update coming up, by the way will tell you guys wipe after show, although I actually tend to do more of that brain FM stuff just through Spotify spotty as a whole bunch of that kind of stuff on it. Now, I use different apps, but it is send me the goddamn links. The spot of ice off guys another really fun. I do like to use is horn hub. They don't have an app for that yet. This the guy this contest like open the white come on guys we need to do this. The boat here, although wouldn't get approved onto the apple stores. That's. I don't care this this these other two apps three apps of I've had only they all notably great for taking notes by hand. I actually use bite my day to day job wings. Well, are you? Are you an ipad Prue and pencil guy? I actually got the I ipad nine point seven realizing use a pencil on that as well. Okay. You guys actually pushed me towards gonna get the remarkable. But then you look at night at final at either. Have ipad pros with pencils yet? Either. A lot of people to do and we both have talked about getting them. And we just haven't done it yet hasn't been a burning desire to. Right. So that was notable right? No to -bility ability. And the last one is procreate on ipad as well. Which is autism app is just really drawing sketching might think to relax. I watch Bob Ross nighttime pain to awesome, dude. Acutally see doing that myself. Actually, I've used a procreate on my sister's i-ipad, he's an artist and I found it. Absolutely amazing. I did a yeah. I did three hours just frigging sketching my dog because he can trace over a picture, and you have is amazing. And then Bob Ross we're on a plane actually in Orlando. And I watch an episode of Bob Ross, I'm like holy shit. He's just like he just makes you feel good. I just forgot about it. And it's like eighty three years something, and I could see everything's layers. You know, you can see the steps and procreates a perfect example I can implement that. Now. That's right. Oh, I agree. Perfect meditation practice. To all right. Yeah. Well, what was there? Another one. I have at your your courses, and you mentioned that where can people go find this? If they go check out the copywriters room dot com by the time the show comes out, it should be at its actual price which swollen nine five. If it's for whatever reason still nine nine five just enter the key of the AKU pong, code hustle. Actually. Yeah. Just hustle and you'll basically get like five hundred bucks also before nine five to actually get in. And that's divulging all might knowledge on how I write sales copy, including ten different niches were actually on there like ten from businesses. And I actually on what I did with you guys decide dictating copy. I started dictating copying different markets will them light one. After the other though like how you do this like on making it up in its. One of the best ones was a newborn photography. She was like, how'd you sell newborn photography? She messes me afterwards and said, I started crying. That's why I had to leave at mute myself. I was what why she was like because that was the story that I gave like that's the story of how I feel like when I to do it and why I actually trained my son too because I want him to capture these moments of joy and beauty for the parents and families and that generally like one hundred full like that business. That's amazing was the that's the copywriters room dot com dot com, copyrights through dot com in we're hustle Rossio. Make sure we link up to your podcast, your podcast is called adult. Marcy unplugged on Nuttal. Marcy unplugged, check it out. They have some amazing guests coming out this month. Who don't have egos at all. No goes, they might be an author of traffic book that is really good. But goes. Hopefully that live around the same time this one goes live. So we can sync it all up and show, and we we have the same does release schedule. So I'm sure I can just we. Well, that's right. You you work with a two totally forgot. Can you make sure like all shows like release? Well, hearing this right now so happen. Thanks have me on. Of course. We'll dachshund take. All right. Thank you. I hope you just enjoyed this episode. Does listen to right now before we sign off view things. I would love for you to do. So the very first thing is to go. Find our guest on Facebook and tell them that you loved their episode with us that's going to help them. Just feel good about themselves. But also going to spread the word a little bit more so go find them on Facebook. 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India-Pakistan Dogfight Pushes Nuclear Powers To The Brink Of Conflict

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

47:00 min | 2 years ago

India-Pakistan Dogfight Pushes Nuclear Powers To The Brink Of Conflict

"From WB. You are Boston and NPR. I'm Meghna talker. Bardy and this is on point India and Pakistan. We're on the brink of war last week for the first time since nineteen seventy-one Indian aircraft crossed into Pakistani airspace, and bombed what India said were terrorist basis the sudden escalation intentions between the two countries had the world on edge. I mean, India and Pakistan are after all two nuclear powers that share a border and a seventy year history of mutual hostility, the US has critical interest in the region. And so does Russia and China, but how many more flash points can India and Pakistan endure before they go to war once more the sour on point, India, Pakistan, and how to preserve a fragile peace between two nuclear powers, and you can join us. Have you been following the news out of South Asia? What's your reaction to the flaring of tensions between these two nuclear neighbors can the US still be the best diplomatic broker in the region. Will we're going to start today in. Ali India and joining us now is Maria ABI Habib South Asia correspondent for the New York Times she's been writing extensively about India and Pakistan, and we have links to her recent stories at on point radio dot org. Maria, welcome to the program. Thank you for having me. Well, I was wondering Mary if you could actually just start out. I want to start with a little timeline of sort of how we got to today beginning on February fourteenth. So in the middle of last month and a suicide bombing attack on Indian members of the Indian military. Can you tell us what happened there and why that started off this rapid escalation of tensions between India and Pakistan? On February fourteenth, a young suicide bomber traveled about ten kilometers away from his home in Kashmir and decided to attack a convoy of Indian paramilitary vehicles about seventy of them. There are sitting ducks basically, usually military convoys do not travel in such large numbers. This suicide bomber was able to kill least forty paramilitary officers. Why that's significant is first of all there was. Over one hundred clump cagey of explosives that he used. Secondly, it also showed that he was a he's a local he's a Kashmiri. So what had happened was India's heavy-handed policies in? Kashmir have led to a organic insurgency sprouting up there before that Pakistan was kind of sending fighters from across the border that we're slipping in. But many observers say that India's overreach and trying to crush this insurgency has actually led to an organic insurgency. So this was significant for that reason that then brought India to say that they were going to strike back Pakistan because this insurgent was part of a group called j Muhammed's which is based in Pakistan. It's supposed supposedly banned in Pakistan, but operates freely as many other terror groups at the pack. Stani say do not operate in Pakistan. There's clear evidence that they do. So that was the first flash point that really kicked everything off. Right. And it's interesting. We should note that in years past there have been terrorist attacks in India, significant ones on the Indian parliament, and of course, the Taj hotel in Mumbai, but this attack on February fourteenth is the one that prompted the Indian government to send to send aircraft into into Pakistan for the first time since one thousand nine hundred seventy one to attack what it was saying were was a terrorist base. But of course, locals on the ground in Pakistan said they didn't really hit anything at all. Can you can show what exactly happened? So then last week the the Indian air force sent jets in across the what is called the line of control into Pakistan for the first time in about five decades as he said, and they targeted what they said was issue Muhammed terrorist training center. They're now calling it a nerve center, but it's very unclear what they've hit. They've been reluctant to provide any imagery US usually armies like the US military, for instance, will provide imagery to say, look, this is what we hit. This is how successful are stripe was instead India just asked everybody to take them for you know, to take them by their word. There have been conflicting statements from the government. Some said, you know, there's been large quantities of terrorists that were killed the air force chief yesterday said we cannot comment on how any terrorists were killed. It's not for us to calm. So there's been lots of vague statements. Meanwhile, people that we the New York Times and many other outlets have spoken to on the ground in that area where the strike happened say, hey, you know, they hit a ravine an empty ravine is you Muhammed's school, but they didn't hit it. So there's lots of confusion and very few hamsters. Unfortunately. We should also note that Pakistan said that it down to Indian fighter jets had captured an Indian pilot whom was later returned to India here to India, I should say, but more, but re tell us what was it about this particular set of exchanges that seems to put the entire region on edge. So quickly that another war might break out. Now, they have both towers now have nuclear weapons right last time that they that they went to the brink like this the first time the last time that they had, you know, an aerial dogfight. The last time they were, you know, slipping into each other's, you know, airspace to to try to bomb each other to smithereens. That was in the seventies. That was before they both had nukes. Now, they have that capability. So that was what was so Harry's. Secondly, where was the US and all of those the US came out very very late. They've been you know, typically, the Americans have played an important role diplomatic role shuttling between the two telling both of them. Look, you know, cooler heads must prevail. The US seemed very slow in its response. And when it did respond it with a good response, and it was very forceful than both sides to come to the table. But it was quite late, and it was pretty much the those forceful statement. Which then lead diplomacy and tell you, you know, tell both sides like high were signaling here with these statements coming out of the State Department, for instance, sci-fi Mike Pompeo without that happening. You know, without pre-empting Indian and Pakistani actions, you can't control the narrative, you can't control the way you want things to go. So what happened was the restatements that came out kind of after the fact once once these aerial invasions in dogfights had happened. So people were kind of scratching their heads wondering where the US was an all of this, and why there was no de-escalation measures that were taken aggressively. And so we're going to explore that more a little later in the program today, but Maria finally, tell us I mean, what is the immediate aftermath in Indian Pakistan about the with the sudden spike dangerous bike intentions here. I mean, people were looking to the upcoming elections. In India's one of the reasons why prime minister moody may have been more quite willing to act so aggressively towards Pakistan. Well, prime minister Modi who was also willing to act aggressively. When when India was last hitting two thousand sixteen so I mean, prime minister Modi has his proved himself to be very aggressive on Pakistan. So I wouldn't link his aggression necessarily with elections. Maybe maybe I mean, there could be a case to say that maybe he was he was more aggressive, but I wouldn't say that he's you know, said that he was gonna roll over when it comes to Pakistani aggression, but the elections I mean, this is really changed the conversation inside India ahead of the elections which are slated for later this spring. They haven't been called yet before any of this happened before February fourteenth, the initial suicide bombing that triggered this larger crisis everybody in India was talking about where are the jobs that Mr. Modena's province? Because unemployment is so rampant inside India that you need to make about one million jobs per month in order to to to take on and absorb the the youth that are coming onto the to the job market every every month, that's a huge task. And he and he was elected in large part to take that task on because he said he was going to embrace the capitalist measures. The India had been kind of, you know, shelving for so long in order to to have a robust economy. So as soon as happened, you know, it change the conversation entirely. Nobody's talking about the the chronic underemployment in a run employment in this country. Now, there's lots of chest beating nationalistic slogans and kind of us I them, and that's happening from both sides of the border. Well, Maria ABI Habib. South asia. Correspondent for the New York Times speaking to us from Delhi India Maria, thank you so very much. Thank you. Well, let's listen back to a little bit of the language coming out of both the Indian and Pakistani governments last week on February twenty seventh a day after India sent those fighter jets into Pakistani airspace. The Indian minister of external affairs schmo Swaraj spoke at a foreign ministers meeting China about India plans saying that the nation would act with restraint and claiming that India would also de-escalate tensions between it and Pakistan. This was not many to petition no military's religious. We are targeted. The limited objective of the empty fake was decisively. Eliza terrorists infrastructure of day moment in order to preempt another terror attack in India. India does not wish to see for disconnection of the situation in this country to act with responsibility and restrict well on the same day, February twenty seventh. Pakistani, prime minister Imran Khan, confronted Indian leader Indian prime minister Narendra Modi and announced that Pakistan had shot down two Indian jets after they crossed over the border with we decided to take action today, we only wanted to show India that we're able to and if you come into our land, we will always retaliate to Indian jets at crossed the border and they were shot down. I will say the pilots with us. The problem is where we go from here. Where do we go from here? Well, joining us now is a deal in the job. He is dean of the Boston University, Frederick g party school of global studies. Dina John welcome to on point. I'm q-. So first of all tell us in your estimate. We've got thirty seconds before you have to take a quick break. Here though, how close were Indian Pakistan to a war once the jet start flying. Once this top start dropping bombs on each other. Once you're capturing each other's by. Let's that's nearly war wave redefinition. And this was as close as you've come what I'll add to Marie as XL. Int- analysis. It's not just the first time since seventy one this is the closest we've gone come to nuclear war since Cuba since Cuba, and he went into it. So we're gonna come. We're going to pick up on that thought when we come back. We are talking about India and Pakistan and how to preserve a fragile peace between two nuclear neighbors. What's your question about this very important region? We'll be right back. This is on point. This is on point. I Magnin Chakrabarti. We're talking this hour about India and Pakistan, and how last week the two nuclear powers came very close to war and how to preserve the fragile peace between two key nations in South Asia. They are the nations of South Asia. I'm joined today by ideal in the Dom. He is dean of the Boston University, Frederick g party school of global studies and Dina John before the break you were saying how. It's a funny in the week of news that we had last week maybe a lot of people miss this. But but tell us a little bit more about why you say it's as close as we've come to nuclear worsens cube. I mean, that's quite a statement. If you think about that, you know, we've had sort of deadens work and hit his dense nearly did not work. And I think it is mostly mostly as Marie also said because we were so distracted last week. This wasn't a good veep for nuke watchers. Right. I the phantom promise of in the green nuclear agreement with North Korea doesn't happen. Invite Dutch not happening. This very real esclation happens. And I think it went off script. There was a script that in previous such incidences for example in two thousand sixteen which was that India would would would would make what's called a preemptive strike kind of a tit-for-tat Pakistan in this case, capturing if you do this be really careful, and usually what happens is the rest of the world comes in. And says to both of them. Okay. Even India Mexa strike everyone. Calm down, you know, get back to normal. This is this is too serious while this time, no one can the US was missing an action. The rest of the world was distracted disengaged uninterested. So I'm curious about whether or not that means that. A war between these two nations is ultimately inevitable. I hope it's not in ever to. But I tend at a new abnormal. I think Mr. Modi wanted a new nor move, which is I am now a major power. And I Mr. moody, I can this time not just sent artillery throw bumps I'll send my plane into your drives the miscalculation happened that. I think the sense was that once he did that the rest of the world will come and calm down Pakistan and say, okay, you're kind of even now step back in this case, no one came and Pakistan retaliated, and that's brought it to this new what I call new abnormally. Because now what that means is every future incidents. This is going to be the baseline. It starts from the previous baseline was incidents happen. I throw a few bombs at across the line of control. You throw a few bombs across the line of control. We both be dot chess. Stella people how good we are. And we move on. Now once plane start flying, then it is not in your hand. For example. If I did of the stoop lanes had ended up differently if Pakistan Inten India had sort of down that plane instead of Boxton downing the Indian plan. Think of what options would be by studied would have escalated further. And once you go the up, the S esscalation ladder, the ultimate point has to be nuclear configuration between the only two nuclear rivals in the world who are also neighbors. So in this case, you know, Moi's use of his wonderful book called brokering nuclear piece deadens used to mean do midge bothers deterring each other, right? And what he argues is unless there's brokering by the major powers that old calculus doesn't work. And in this case it nearly didn't work. It's a little it's it's more than a little shocking to hear that within basically a day or two we could have such a dramatic escalation. The positive note with inundated Durtoux while the world was sleeping, the also de-escalate. Right. You wouldn't have noticed it from the from the media? But the fact that the Pakistan prime minister did this very unsound tation thing going on television saying I'm going to return, the spy Lieut without conditions as a peace gesture, Mr Monti beat his chest and his election and all that. But they also sort of the government both governments did realize just how serious this was. And this time did step back, but that's not something you can count. Well, I wanna play a one of the a moment from prime minister Imran Khan's address television address. And he's the Pakistani prime minister this was February twenty seventh. He was talking in a sense directly to Indian prime minister Narendra mod Miranda Mody saying that neither nation could afford a major war DVD Neo, man. Junge William buddy, buddy, Saudi generally run. They're saying all the major wars in history were misc-. Calculated nobody considered where the events of war would lead to. So I asked India what sort of weapons we both have can we afford any miscalculation? But a deal Najam. Lemme ask you so. Yes, so coming to the brink there, but stepping back, but what a really want to explore is what you were saying a little earlier this new abnormal that we have a situation. Now that we've been that Indian Pakistan of essentially been building to over many years where on the one hand Pakistan continues, for example to deny its sheltering of terrorist groups denying it to the world. Even though many of global nations will point to Pakistan and say, that's simply not true. We have India rising as a power, and perhaps as you're saying being more willing to express that power militarily in the region and also being seen. The United States is itself is set said that India's an important military power in south and central Asia as a stabilizing force. So if those are the aspects of this new abnormal, what will it take to change because? Certainly there's going to be another terrorist incursion into India what's going to stop India from escalating once again, it's clearly not a stabilizing force in clearly not a stable neighborhood. Right. Think about the neighborhood, and it's not just India and Pakistan with nukes right on the north of them is Russia nukes, China nukes of Aniston, which is essentially the US at this point right next door, Iran. So this is not a neighborhood where you want to be experimenting close to powder. Kegs? However, what will it take and could take some really really tough decisions, you know, in this by both countries in in your intro. You said what will it take to preserve a fit fragile? I think what will it will take is to stop trying to preserve a fragile peace and build a real peace. What does that mean? One on the Pakistan side, fun of the big lessons was that on the on the extremist groups and militant groups argument. It sticks ready easy on. Stan. So that is nearly no one in Pakistan who had this blind believes that this incident are in the Indian response was really because of the militant group. However that is nearly no one in the world who doesn't believe that it is. So so so a giant, gap and belief that Pakistan. I think has to somehow convinced the world by actions that this is not. So because otherwise, I think that was partly the thing reason behind the silence on the Indian site. The seventy year old wound of Kashmir simply cannot be ignored. Amongst the many many tragedies of this incident is that the ten that caused it has stoically gone out of the radar screen, and in some ways, the world cares about India and Pakistan because they have nukes, and it becomes about India and Pakistan and not about Kush Meads, and the type of atrocities we've seen both in the build up to this and post this event when when when people who have dish media being pulled out of shops, and sort of nearly Lynch just because they happened to because media's I think unless that assault. So this is not an easy osc. It does not but bugs and really has to change the world's perception by its actions on the militant Nangle and India cannot did as no universe in which you can be respected global baba. Unless the Kashmir issue is somehow dissolved these are very big asks. Yes, say. Okay. So so Dina John stand by here for just a moment because I want to bring into the conversation up or not day. She is director of the initiative on the future of India and South Asia at the Hudson institute, her op-ed in the Hindustan Times yesterday is headlined Pakistan's moment of international isolation has arrived, and we have linked to that at point radio dot org up on an upon they welcome to you. Hi, good to here. Thank you. So first of all you were hearing what d- dean deal John was saying there about the big asks that he thinks of the international community should ask both Pakistan. And India what what do you make of that is that the the depth of the solution that we have to aim for in order to keep these two nuclear powers, you know, away from the brink of war. I would say that the mean the main thing that India is looking for and has been looking for almost seventy dick seven decades. Now is that there should be a peaceful neighborhood. India wants people neighborhood every Indian prime minister, including Mr. moody, when he came into bar sought to better relations with Pakistan you into into Pakistan in December twenty fifteen of the issue of terrorism has not changed in the last three decades, the Pakistani state, especially the Pakistani military has not stopped except hold off and is revolving door for terrorists, and where I would defer Dr Najem is when he said that you know, the Pakistan Giannis state needs to act against a resume hiawatha. The world was quiet. I do believe that the world actually came on India side. And the only reason for that was that off the few. Decades of Pakistani state seeing that they is no evidence of terrorism even when their roots like the Mumbai terror attackers, the recent poll WalMart terror attackers when they claimed that devote behind the terrorist attacks Bacchus, tan still refused to take any action. If you look at the Mumbai terror attacks in yeah, presented evidence. Many other countries presented evidence, but Pakistan, refuted it saying that it is Indian evidence and India is a Pakistan enemy of Pakistan. So we will not accept that evidence Osama bin Laden was was found in a Gattison down in Pakistan and Baucus Dan has yet to explain how and why he was. So I believe countries around the world, actually, sort of do not believe when it when it won't believe Pakistan when Pakistan says that it will act against terrorists and dill Pakistan takes those actions. It is unlikely that will change regarding Kush Mead. Yeah. Can you? Hold on for a second. 'cause we will show the Kush. Schmear issues, of course, looms large and all this. And I want to explore that with you. But let me get a John back back in here. I mean, you heard up on just list a lot of high profile terrorism incidents that Pakistan has refused to really acknowledge the in the past many years. I mean, let's just start with that. If that's going to continue to be a sticking point, not just in the region, but globally how to get how how to turn the Pakistani government's a opinion or actions on this, especially when in the eyes of many observers, it's the Pakistani government itself is complicit in these actions. And that's the question the eyes of the observer and the government. So I'm I don't speak for pundits that I I'm trying to lie. So the thing that message about. Wanting to peaceful neighborhood every Pakistani prime minister every Pakistani military chief has said that has said that repeatedly as the smaller nations of they have a big compulsion to but this is not about who's right who's wrong on the terrorism front. I could list a longer list of terrorism in Pakistan, right from the APS attack from what's happening in Baluchistan from what's happening in Karachi from what's happened the hordes apple so that if going to be the bragging rights is going to be being the victim of terrorism Pakistan is much much higher. But that's not the point the point is what do we really mean? When we say Pakistan is involved isn't really saying that the government of Pakistan sits in plans these attacks. I think that's in in some ways the narrative that has been built and is convenient for certain forces, including these terrorist organizations is that somehow the Pakistan status complicit, and so it is one thing to say v. Are plummeting tourism and other country. It's another thing if a state is vegan is unable to control it. India cannot control the violence that's going on Schmidt Pakistan cannot has not been able to control the terrorism in Pakistan, very often by same or similar organizations. So I think the two countries need to grow and rather than the war of narrative, come to some some sort of a solution. But let me ask you, and I definitely take your point. And whatever reiterate, you're not speaking for topography here, you're providing analysis, but I do have to ask though. I mean, does your analysis include the assertion that the Pakistani intelligence services haven't provided cover for terrorist groups in based in Pakistan by fences, we give too much too much credit to intelligence agencies. This is a country that can't provide voter an electric city to most people and zoom that such elaborate now that does not mean, I'm not trying to say that there is that there are clearly have been occasions. And going back to the majority in the US supporting with Pakistan, so and so forth countries have made the mistakes of trying to play this this this militant cut, but what I'm trying to say is there is a lot. That's also out of the state's control simply because it's a very weak state by every other indicator. Right, right. This is that an every other indicated this is a state that struggles, but somehow on this one, right? This one thing it is the super JAMES BOND state that can control events all across the world. I think is funny. Well, up on Monday, would you like to respond to that just a quick point? Maybe the reason that the state isn't able to function on the other point is because it has really developed just one muscle. And that muscle is the military muscle. The very first budget of Pakistan in nineteen forty eight seventy five percent of its resources went to. Defense and over the decades, if you actually look most of Pakistan's resources, most of the assistance most of its concentration has always been defense. It's all it's always been towards the military. And the reason is that the Pakistani states orientation has been India. There has been a certain obsession about India on its foreign insecurity front. So it has always spent it has always spend on military rather than spending on its people. And maybe that's the reason I could go into a longer discussion, but I will stop there. Well, just just to say does it not make sense that for seventy years? India would be the preoccupation of Pakistan when you have an enormous nation. You know, born of of you know, through through hostilities through the partition of India. I mean, it just it doesn't beggar belief that Pakistan would be preoccupied with India. No one, you know, I think you've got exactly right night and forty eight was his estate created with nothing not even stools and desks. And immediately the threat from India comes we which is counting how many days it for last. So in some ways, you know, as as someone who works on human development and Paxton the biggest tragedy is that we've become in Pakistan has become embroiled in this this immense spending on defense now vinyl government in Pakistan is that that serves the Indian interest because India can outspent by STAN on defense Vichit does by a factor of ten or so and therefore the strategy like the Soviet Union, we will just outspent Pakistan into it. Now, again, I think it's a silly argument. This is is subcontinent of a billion and a half or more people. These are not childish games to play with their lives. Aparna? What do you think we have thirty seconds? A quick a one Indian nationalism is not centered around Pakistan. India nationalism is centered on its five thousand year old civilization second Pakistan needs the hostility with reserve. India? India does not and Todd seeking parody with India, which is seven to ten times size and about five to seven times economy is does not help Pakistan Pakistan could have chosen a territorial identity which it didn't well opponent upon day and the on the job standby quick break here, we're talking about India and Pakistan, and how close the two nuclear nations came to war last week, and what to do to preserve the peace in South Asia. We'll be right back, and we'll take your calls. I'm making trucker body. This is on point. This is on point Meghna Chakrabarti. We are talking this hour about how close India and Pakistan came to war last week and what it'll take to preserve peace between two nuclear neighbors. The two nuclear neighbours of South Asia in let's go to the phones because our callers have been very patient Moncey is joining us from Tampa, Florida Moncey you're on the air. Hi magna. Thanks for the call. What's your question? Go ahead. Just wanted. Yeah. I just wanted to ask we've been talking a lot about this conflict in terms of the terror attacks and the potential for nuclear nuclear war, the, you know, the flouting of the Geneva conventions. And what I what I can't seem to understand is why 'cause schmear is an, you know, in the military occupation of Kushner is is Nord especially at the international level. Right. So so Moncey thank you so much for your call a deal. Najam did mention that in the previous segment, but let me I turn to up Hyundai and ask an ask about that. Because this open wound of the conflict over Kashmir is the other issue. That's at the heart of the problem here. So I mean Aparna Punto how would you solve that? Schmead is actually I would see a symptom of the problem between India and Pakistan, and I do believe Italy best resolved, if the two countries I actually start talking to each other and having dialogue, which which will then create the let's say the trust which will enable them to talk about. Kashmir that is one part of the question. The second part is. Yes, in does need to do a lot more about what about how it takes care of its own gush media, citizens high of a toad the issue of terrorism, which has come in in the last few decades has actually heard the is so sort of if if the policy of the Baucus tan via jihadi groups of the Pakistan e state is that the wound Pakistan, the more terror attacks or their instance in Kashmir it will actually help. Kashmir is. That's not true. It's hard. Kashmir is and the re one of the reasons why is almost no discussion of Kashmir on the international. Front is that Kashmir is associated with terrorism now? So maybe if sort of the the issue came back to just being that about discussing the future of Kashmir without the democracy sort of terrorism it may be easier to resolve the Kashmir dispute, but I would save one of those disputes which needs a few decades does not going to be solved. Tomorrow records to say it's already been on the seventy years it, but but I deal nauseam can you unwind or disentangle the the terrorism issue as a parent upon days bringing up here from the dispute over a you can't on vine. You know, this one man Lord, Louis Mountbatten left, these two countries with the most versed possible wound that has been breeding for seventy years, and I think sort of trying to entangle Kashmir and cash media's in odd narratives in sort of these Betty narratives of the two countries we need to get above that. And neither India nor package. Stan will you know, one of the biggest jokes? I'm a great friend of the United Nations, but found the biggest jokes is one of the longest serving peacekeeping mission off the United Nations is the so-called observer mission in Kashmir seventy s please tell us what you've observed. Please hold these two hid them under arrest. If you need to and say solve this issue. And if part of that solution is an independent Cushman by whether it's boxed on at India. I think they're both for after seventy years. Something is a symptom. If send him naturally treat the symptoms, but dealing idealism we you and I have spoken many times over the course of several years. So, you know, have a deep respect for you. But to hear you say that the issue of the disputed territory of Kashmir is a petty narrative. I mean, the no not the not the Kashmir issue. But our other narratives, whether it is sort of the India-Pakistan negative. The Kashmir's is is not pretty at all out made. I think is these central issue. Kashmir out. I do not know what the two countries are fighting about got it. Thank you for the clarification as a little confused by that up onto would you like to respond to that? I totally I believe Kashmir is a symptom. I do not believe schmead is the main problem the main issues that neither side trust Ceasar. Each other the Meany show is that he sort of there. There is no what why don't the two countries have economic relations. Why did India offer most favored nation status in nine ninety six and Pakistan not respond to it? So it's not. As though the two countries are talking on sort of there are issues issues, but India just disclosed to trade, but Indianapolis inventing it up dot on item. After how many years India offered it in one thousand nine hundred six I twenty nine thousand nine I support you entirely. Let's have trade relations. Let's also relations. Let's act together come over. So we even come over. Let's let's not try to keep each other out of Olympics. This is what I mean by the Betty nece, the pettiness is it is it is a teashop in south of India whose name happens to Karachi teashop. I think it was a to your coffee shop and these Lynch mobs scum and threatened them to take the word Karachi off. Right. And the end that's an some both sides. This is I mean this job I'm down. Yeah. The pendulum information minister smoke about Hindu just the other day and was as kicked out of his job today. So I mean literally today. Yes. Yes. It is on both sides. But the question is that two countries which have a problem? I mean, Taiwan and China China claims divan you stood etry. But days not terrorism in China Taiwan relations. They are good. They have good economic relations. Why is that? The question. I mean, we should also look at other places. I mean the question of terrorism. Why does it only come in when Kashmiri's involved? Why isn't that in even before this question vite does is ninety nine hundred forty seven. There was partition terrorism in Kashmir did not start nineteen nine. There were talks between the two countries in nineteen sixty two when the two countries had a discussion very nine three had been fought between the two of this. I'm going to sit up in here. And first of all say that I think what we're hearing is the depth of the complexity of this problem even after seventy seventy years, but I wanna turn I want to turn our attention a little bit too given this complexity what can and should the international community do specifically the United States because it's posture in the region has changed rather dramatically in the past couple of years. So first of all, let's just listen to what President Donald Trump just said on Friday of last week. He was of course, in Hanoi Vietnam talking about North Korea. But he did talk a little bit about the tensions between India and Pakistan, and he called it quote, decent news that Pakistan had agreed to release without preconditions that Indian air force pilot that it had captured they'd been going at it. And we've been involved in trying to have them stop. And we have some reasonably decent news. I think hopefully that's going to be coming to an end. It's been going on for a long time decades and decades there's a lot of dislike on. Fortunately, so we've been in the middle trying to help them both out. See if we can get some organization in some peace, and I think probably that's going to be happening. President Donald Trump last week now apart upon limitation to you first on this because you know, the the Pakistani ambassador to the United States last week Assad Khan said we would like to have more we would certainly like to see more active involvement of the United States. There were some phone calls made by high-ranking members of the Trump administration to both Pakistan and India, but it wasn't as we were talking about earlier in the hour. The more the more sort of forthright discipline diplomacy that the United States is able to do part of the reason and correct me if I'm wrong, but the United States is in kind of a complicated situation itself year, it does still rely on Pakistan because of all the US activities in Afghanistan. But on the other hand, it's been tilting a little bit more towards India in the past several. Years. So what should be what is the best role for the US to play in the region right now, I am a truly one of those who who sort of support for they did right now, I believe that the US was involved behind those. However, it did not do what it used to do traditionally, which is whenever India-Pakistan an instant terror incident happened, and it looked like the two countries were about to escalate it would come in and ask what countries to start of just back off and start a dialogue. I don't think that has helped in the past. And I do, but I do believe there was involvement. I do believe there was condemnation by almost every major major country and even a statement by the UN Security Council, and I think the the message sent was correct. Which is that do not go to war. However, they needs to be that Pakistan needs to take action against terror groups. So I believe that the that this policy of the US. Should continue. Yes of ghanistan, maybe of another factors. But I also believe on the factors is that a large number of countries do believe that the the reason for the for the esscalation was the terror attack and that action needs to be taken after repeated promises of taking action against groups Pakistan does need to act against terror groups Edina job. I mean, the president he has taken a harder line on Pakistan that we've heard from previous administrations drawing closer to India since twenty seventeen at least is that the right trajectory for the United States. I think the United States remains distracted particularly this president remains respected. And I think it will. The only major country that really came in early with anything that was public was China. And even they will you Ukwa for the US. This is no longer just about Pakistan, or even Aniston there's China and mixed this this this is this. This is a bigger stakes. I think what the what the world should do what the major poverty to do. What is in the US interest? Which is also in China's interest is to help both countries. Both countries develop illogic for peace that logic is staring us in our face. Hit is India's moment to rise it cannot rise with by while while while the wound of Kashmir's leading violators acting as this this petty belligerent, the logic for peace for Pakistan is even more apparent it has been bleeding, and as we talked that has cost on human development that has cost on the people of Pakistan, but the rest of the world needs to step in and say, we will help you build that. And what these countries bought of them have to stop saying. No, no, no, we we are not going to let anyone else interfere. This is dude dangerous for the world not to interfere. Okay. So on that point. There's one more bit of insight that I hope we can gather from both of you from from your ideal and Aparna and that has to do with the appetite or tolerance for. For four hostilities domestically between these two nations, and I ask because of particularly the media in both India and Pakistan here, I wanna play a little bit of tape here following the terror attack in customer that got these latest hostilities rolling. Remember that happened on February fourteenth? South Asian media. And this happens to be this one piece tape you'll hear particularly in. India was very very bellicose. So here's Indian news anchor Arnab Goswami calling for all out revenge against Pakistan on his show, the debate with our knob Goswami, we realize essentially it is for us. Crush pockets. Not talk. Nope. The mission. It is time for blood. The enemy's plot. That's Indian TV anchor Arnab Goswami Goswami, I should say up on upon day. We also had members of the Indian media establishment, tweeting strikes strikes and more strikes even dressing up in army fatigues on television. I mean how much of a role does the media have to play in in the in the escalating tensions between these two countries. I do believe that the media and social media warriors as some people. Call them have heard not only India's image, but actually added to the collision. I do believe part of it is in my opinion, something which has happened around the world. Media does play a bigger role social media plays a bigger role. And there are enough people in social media who believe that it is it sort of instead of public opinion coming through every four to five years at election time, they need to send what they believe is the public opinion today leaders, it doesn't help it often causes problems. And I'm one of those who wishes that this does not happen. But unfortunately, we live in a day and age when we cannot stop this from happening, and we have to just find ways to work around it. Well, a deal Najam we've been talking about narrative throughout the course of this hour here. I mean, are these these are uncontrollable narratives into a certain extent. And but how how much influence do they play on the political leaders of India and Pakistan, uncontrollable, only to an extent there also planted and planted not in a in a pretty sense planted in the sense that they've been encouraged on bought bought both countries. I mean on the inside there's an absolute orgy of hyper jingoism. On the Pakistan side, it looks comparatively docile but only by comparison and the self righteousness, and the gloating. That's what you see on the accent side and jingoism and sort of blood, and strike is what you see on the other. It has been encouraged, and it has to be de escalated to and the role of the Buddha the politicians and of the intellectual class India skating that by not feeding that frenzy is very very important. And here's the last and most important point on this. This might be the thing that is most difficult for either country to control if any country thought that they can make the judge in Pakistan is the they might think that they can control militants that hard enough. You try to control the jingoism on the screen when it gets you ratings. And so this is really scary. Because this is the other maybe the most important element of the new abnormal as I've been calling well opponent upon them gonna ask the last thought from you here because the question I still lingers in my head is tension will rise again between these two nations. And when that happens what what are the steps? Do you think need to be taken to be sure that it doesn't tip over this time into potential nuclear exchange? I believe that is going to be difficult. One cannot really predict. And the reason is that we need you said we have de-escalated, but we are one terror strike away from going back to where we were a few days ago or a few weeks ago. And so I would say that the best way to avoid that would be for Pakistan, this time round to actually really act against terror groups and demonstrate that that they are at least being arrested put in prison in some action being taken against them. So that the Indian side can actually say, yes, you know, there are grounds Pakistan is taking action. Let's let's resume dialogue because it is impossible otherwise for India to start a dialogue unless Pakistan take some action against terror groups well up on upon day director of the initiative on the future of India and South Asia at the Hudson Hudson institute joining us today from Washington, thank you so much for being with us. Thank you and the deal. John dean of the Boston University, Frederick g party school of global studies. It's always a pleasure to speak with you didn't dump. Thank you so much. Frank, folks, go on point radio dot, Oregon. 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Doberman Dan: How To Create And Sell A Physical Print Newsletter

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Doberman Dan: How To Create And Sell A Physical Print Newsletter

"This is an intro intro. Intro intro, a solid flow chart with four. Hey soup. Everyone barking at me. I don't know. Actually, I do know. Because you wanna be diem ex. No ride. We were listening to him yesterday. In the car back to the nineties. Okay. Well, why were you really barking like a dog? We're in the good graces of Mr. and the one and only Doberman, Dan over mundane deeds. Cool. He's a good guy. Yeah. So you know, anybody who's been sort of following us for a little bit. Now would probably remember that we used to have a newsletter. We did call the GP letter, and it was a print physical newsletter that we actually mailed the people's houses so old school, and we did it for about thirteen months. And there's a good chance. We'll be doing it a little bit more again after this episode, but don't don't play like get chance. We are going to make this shit happen again. It's going to happen in just want to tell Dan Ryan that there's some good potential that it's going to happen. Like, the piss people off, I know well, Dan's easy, Vishal. So it's. Yeah. No. Doberman. Dan is he's been added for a very long time. I forget how many years seven years of doing it. Now, he's about to release his issue nine nine years nine for the if it issues, but has been doing a lot of other stuff. Right. It all the newsletter. So the newsletter it's been nine years. He's been he's about to release issue. One hundred which is we made it to thirteen and it's a grind. But it's also extremely beneficial. Dan, lays out a bunch of ways that he does it. And it was nice to know actually that we did thirteen of these. And we kinda hacked our way into it. Just figuring it out. And he had the same struggles that we had a cool, we're normal. I guess so in this episode, we're going to go ahead and dive in with Dan and talk about how he does the newsletter the logistics behind the newsletter how much it costs to print the newsletter his his sort of creative process behind creating the newsletter. And how he got out of, you know, being a potential statistic in inner city, Dayton, Ohio. So as a police officer, and how his business is maybe saved his life. Yeah. I'm stretching a little bit. But maybe not depending using the stats. He threw out. Yeah. We'll let him get into that. In the conversation. He breaks down what he was doing before. This is a cop and how he got into copywriting and how that transferred into a newsletter and really really cool story in a lot of great sort of tactical steps that you can follow to create a newsletter for yourself if you'd like to do that. Now before we jump over with Doberman, Dan, I did want to tell you. We still have our free book available are marine prophets traffic playbook. Evergreen traffic playbook. I don't even know that any of the evergreen traffic playbook. It basically breaks down the exact strategy that we use to drive a bunch of traffic to our website using SEO and other methods, and it also has a whole bunch of guest expert sharing their best traffic tactics. And you can get completely for free over at evergreen, profits dot com slash traffic book. Correct. That's right. Where do they go for that, evergreen, profits dot com slash traffic book? Cool. Yeah. Now, you're gonna learn a lot of good stuff. And just go grab that thing. Honestly, just just get it. And you're going to get them Hawes kind of like what we do here, Dan because the newsletter that was like, oh, man, we should bring that back leveraging some content. We already have you'll learn more about this soon. Once we have this more concrete and onto the world. We'll we'll open up the KOMO a little later. This is the keep your clothes concer-. You stay far away from me. Let's go hang out with Dan. And definitely go Tra. Go get that traffic book at evergreen, prophets dot com slash traffic. You can tell it's the end of the day. This is when we do our interest after for episode recordings my brains a little fried, right brain. Sprained fry let's go talk to Doberman. Dan, brain fry. Hey, dan. How you doing man? Thanks pop on the show doing great, thanks providing me, so is is Doberman. Dan, your real name. Yes. My mother nature Dover. Glad I had the moniker is my my last name is really unusual. And I was teased ruthlessly about it as a child still have trauma issues, it's result. So like I stumbled onto this moniker just by accident when I used to write I wrote articles for the bodybuilding market back in the day. And I wrote an article about like comparing rottweilers dobermans because my Doberman at the time got in a fight with a Rottweiler and one because he was lean and fast and the Rottweiler was big bulky and slow and the whole article was about I got let myself get big and bulky and decided to go on a program to get Doberman lean signed as a joke Doberman, Dan. And all those guys started calling me in the market. And and Bob candy, Robert Kennedy who owned muscle, MAG international, and then all those guys so it stuck ever since. And I'm glad like I never have to use my last name. It'll be dramatize. About teased being teased about it. And I'm going to be honest. I don't even know your last name. I'm curious to ask. But maybe I don't wanna put it out there the mystery. So it's it's a bastardized French Dame the customs people screwed up the spelling. So it's Gallup UIs spelled G ALL APO, which is actually is galley PO supposed is a fairly common French Canadian name. But whatever, I guess my great-grandfather just stuck with that he thought. Okay. Well, I don't want to change on the paperwork. So just imagine how badly I was teased in school as a kid with a last name ending with poop. Oh. It is true. I got a little tickle in my when you said it, but yeah, I love I love what owned and there's DC this as almost like a different character. You bring to your business, or is this just you Ramin, Dan. That's a good question is definitely a definitely a persona, but it was even developed before I was in business. I was in law enforcement for twelve years as a cop in inner city in Dayton, Ohio in that's just such a so incongruent to the person that I really am like I was supposed to be a musician. You know, so one of these touchy feely artist types, and then I wind up going along forcement, so the Doberman damn persona even though I didn't have a name for back. Then was just my act of putting on body armor and a uniform and going into that care to plane the character I had to be survive in that role, and it kind of carried over into business too. Yeah. I could see that. It would just fascinated. We're actually reading a book by sky Todd Herman alter ego affect like it is. And that's just kinda resonated because he's talking about how you can have this other persona, maybe creating the character you want in business or life relationships, whatever it is sort of a way to detach yourself from the persona that the world. It gets. It's not who you are with your friends and family, but it's like the persona that the world gets. Yeah. That's interesting. And you guys are this is the second time. And I think maybe only two weeks that somebody mentioned that book to may. So I gotta get it. Now. It's good. I think both of us are just a few chapters in concept. Yeah. But my my last name is wolf so I grew up being called wolf boy throughout school. That was literally my nickname every called me wolf boy. Art kids, cruel like is an easiest pale easy to pronounce wouldn't think of making fun of that. But Chad isn't law. Grated. It's an interesting place. Just embraced it overtime. I didn't care. We all have our own struggles. Go into there. So. So, you know. Then so your inner city cop there police officer. What was that transition like to copywriter was there something between there? I didn't like you said I stumbled into that career literally whole life planning was I was working in security at this department store in the guys I worked with k said he Dayton's given a civil service desk for police officer on Tuesday. We're going to go take you wanna come along. I don't have anything else to do. My life planning. I told him this'll be interesting to see how I do. But if bypass and they called me for an interview is soon as they asked me about drug use. And I'm honest about what I didn't high school. They're certainly going to disqualify me. But. It wasn't that bad. I mean, you know, the eighties early eighties. We all smoked a little weed in high school. There's no judgment here. You'll get. Ninety s and we all smoked elite schools, right? Crate so nothing changed related. Well, what happened was in the academy? They told us. Okay. Back then Ohio police and fire pension was you put in twenty five years and your retire with a full service pension, and they told us this before we graduate where already bought into this thing where few days before graduation there, by the way, the statistics show that. Almost none of you will make it to twenty five years to get a pension and most of you will be gone on a disability pension of some kind either mental or physical. And but those of you who do last twenty five years will be very few. Sixty eight percent of those will be dead in five years or less after retirement. Now, this is when somebody could retire they started when there are twenty one somebody can retire from the police department there late forties, and almost all of them are dead in less than five years. And I thought future doesn't look too bright here. I wonder if those still hold true today. That's just that's crazy. I never knew that about in that specifically in that line of work is what they see. Yeah. Let me what I have. I haven't like thirty five people in my academy class. And so now we've passed the thirty year Mark, then I got on the police department nineteen Ninety-six, but. By the way, the pension plan. Changed the rules. Like, oh, yeah. Remember how we told you guys? Invest your entire lifetime in this retire at twenty five NAN ounce extended a thirty and then when they reach thirty years like, yeah, we change the rules again, you're not going to get a hundred percent patched. And you're gonna get safety percent. If you wanna stay another five years, though will give you a hundred which is really savvy thinking for them because almost all of them will be dead. If they stay thirty five years, so they don't have to pay out. Geez. That's I know that's happening. Somebody's in the fire department here. Same exact thing happening. So it's it's rough. I think that's what I'm thinking. Like, yeah. I ain't gonna do this the rest of my life. Sure. And it was only I was only on. I think a couple years when somebody hit me up for the Amway business, and all I saw was your each trick distributor. You make two thousand one hundred thirty eight dollars a month. And that's what I was making a cop. And I saw I thought okay. There's my ticket out of here. I can do that. And then just work part time and make that and go back to play music. That's what really got that's where the transition happened from being a civil servant to get into business. That's perfect. And if you like that that wouldn't you take there? So I know copywriting skillset now is that did that allow you or that can get you to this kind of thinking of hey to figure out how to sell this thing piss off my friends and family. Oh, I pissed off for sure. I didn't know anything about copywriting or direct response marketing. And of course, we didn't even have online marketing then. An I sucked at the business that I failed at that. And lost good chunk of change. But it got me at least got me thinking like, okay. I know what I wanna do next. I want to have my own business. So I after that after failed at that failed another multilevel, and and I started like for nine years after I got introduced to the concept of having your own business. I started multiple businesses a year like minimum two usually three businesses year, traditional businesses, and they all failed. None of them even got off the ground. None of them even made a dime. And you know, after nine years, you gotta a like, I obviously don't know what the heck I'm doing better figure this stuff out. And I figured out that I sucked at marketing and selling. So I found this guy dang Kennedy who was selling this thing called the magnetic marketing kit, and he sold it is kind of like a done for you marketing system forgetting. Customers without you. Chase them down. They would come to you. And I bought it for that to try think of well, this'll help whatever business I was trying to get off the ground that was just bleeding money. Not making a thing. I bought it for that. But that was the switch there when I saw what he was doing. I saw the style of marketing was using the sell stuff, and I saw it. He sold a bunch of copies in a three ring binder with six cassette tapes for three hundred ninety seven bucks, and he sold it with words on a letter and wait a minute. That's cool. That's what I wanna do side. Just emulated what he was doing. I didn't I didn't buy any books. I didn't Bindi courses. I just took what Dan Kennedy was doing to sell that information product that marketing many marketing system, and I created my own self published. Bodybuilding course and started selling that mail order with two. To step ads in the magazines and direct mail. And that was the first business after nine straight years of multiple serial failures of that was the first business that made any money, and that was the first business about a year later, I was making enough to quit the police department is so you're a police officer that entire time there. Wow. Yeah. Thank god. Or I saw as fulltime cop part-time serial failure entrepreneur. So it's a good thing. The job or I would have been eating out of dumpsters got it. Yeah. Because I was going to ask what kept you going. But what company going is you don't want to get killed in the in the line of I get it. Now, I'm assuming that was your motivation. Pretty strong motivator. That's cool. So how did how did how did the newsletter come about the Doberman Dan newsletter that you do now? So what I first business. I started in the bodybuilding that was initially and info product business for the first year. And then I discovered these guys wanna buy supplements. So I started reselling other people suffocates, and then I started my own my own line in labeled it with my brand and sold Salman's. And there's been several businesses since then all started with direct response marketing and my own copy. So there's been. Several other info product businesses in different niches. There's been I started another bodybuilding cellphone business in two thousand four started actually a couple of different south want businesses and sold them and info said multiple info product businesses. And then we see was two thousand eleven I've been publishing marketing stuff online, not as a business just want to like get some lessons outta my head in, you know, share it with people hopefully help them not make the same dumb mistakes. I have so I've been polishing online and then. December two thousand and ten I decide you know, what I'm going to start a paid papering newsletter. Like, Gary our used to have and this I launched that as a side venture. But at the time still my fulltime business was the body the second bodybuilding business, I started. But that's how the newsletter started. Just a part time thing initially that's pretty much what happened to us. I would say to you know, because we're chat right before we hit record that we had a print newsletter as well. Couple years back now lasted thirteen months, and you said you are what you knew. So I just started my is it ninth year my ninth year. I just finished issue. One hundred that's amazing because just the thirteen months we were in it. It was amazing. But you know, it's consistency. And you know, it can't be grind. If you don't have your system street, we figured it out a little bit. But it kinda like what you were saying it was it was a different part of the side part of the business. It was never really the main thing we were running an agency at the time as well. So it was kind of trying to agency clients, but it also showing people what we were doing as an agency. That's smart in it. Sounds so easy and theory, doesn't it just, you know, put some words on paper every month, and it is hard, right? A monthly newsletter. We actually had a hard time. This is this is honestly the truth. We had a hard time keeping short. We had some issues that we're like forty five pages long because we get on a roll with what we were typing at we actually we started to get feedback that they were getting too long. They always got longer or whatever reason it was hard for us to be concise in like a nice neat like fourteen page letter. So ended up sending out like these books. Basically by the end of the thing. Jeez. That's funny and people complain it was getting too long. Isn't that funny servic giving you so much? What are some struggles that you've had with keeping consistent with the newsletter? Some some first things that just pop out. Jeez. Man. Like if we want to get to the root cause of the issue, it's probably just a screwed up head issues. You know, the listen to the voicing your head the one that probably eighty percent of the Steffi says at least according psychologists is negative. So that that voice just messing with you know, like. It's the middle of the month, and you shoot a started fourteen days, but you know, the voice like. You know, people don't want to know, what are you gonna share? That's new and different than what everybody else's say. You know, like always just all you hear from voices discouragment. Right. Right. That's I mean, that's fascinating to hear that you're in this deep, and you are so talented with your experience and all that. And you have the exact same struggles that we had always found herself to last week for like crap deadline tear. We gotta right. We have three days and always turn them. Great. We always read that letter within like forty eight hours seventy two hours leading up to the printer deadline, right? But I love it. But when you're, you know, sometimes that's when you produce your best stuff when you're under the gun, and you don't have options to goof off, correct? And that's what we noticed. So does that is that kind of a constant theme for you that is it is it more leader? In the month is typically your best work is done. Sees like not all the time for a while. I was actually ahead three issues. Wow. But then probably for the past year. So I used to dedicate part of each day for the entire month right in the newsletter in I found a little bit more efficient system for organizing. My my writing time at least so now there are certain days devoted to. But they're still those times where you like it's blown off and the regular days are blown off. And then when you realize like my deadline to get the stuff to the letter shop as the twenty fifth and you realize oh, man, it's like the nineteenth of the twentieth. And I got a handful of days to do what I should have been doing all month in oh, sometimes it's good to be under pressure. Sometimes they just forces you to focus and you come up with your best stuff and make note. I mean, there's no doubt about it. Your subscribers are are expecting you to hit it out of the park every month. Like, they're they're not gonna cut you any slack most of them want. If you kind of have to half ass your way through it that. Because you know, you you're fighting with somebody and yet bad month, you're all bummed out. And you were late. They just won't accept that. How do you make how do you prevent that from happening? Like, how do you know, if you're like, this could be better, or this isn't going to resonate? That's funny. Yes. That there have been months where it was the twenty fifth, and I was doing one last check over before I sent it to the letter shop, and I realized this socks this is not gonna cut it in like there's nothing in here that salvageable I gotta start all over. So you did. Yeah. I guess you do what you gotta do. You know, kind of fun. If if you can get in the flow, no matter, how whatever trash you're dealing with or you're under the gun, or or your your kid is sake or your dog is sick, or whatever something seems to happen. Once you're in the groove of producing it. And then once you're in the actual flow of doing it, even if you you started out like I have no idea what to say at a yacht. You just start putting stuff on paper as long as you keep moving forward. The good stuff usually comes out one of the things we noticed with our letter to is there was times where we'd write an issue. And we'd be like, I don't know. This one's gonna hit that well this month. I don't know if people are going to really like it and a lotta times the ones where we were sort of uncertain about where some of the more popular ones. And I think it was because of that sort of we kind of forget, maybe we're more advanced on some. Of these topics than some of the people who are subscribing. So when we talked about some of the stuff that we thought maybe this is going to be too basic for them that was the stuff that hit because they really needed the basics, and they hadn't had it yet. So there was there was we always kind of never knew what sort of response, we were gonna get when we press send basically. That's an interesting observation something else, I found like even advanced people when when they're presented advanced information. Like, they understand it. The rookies might not understand the vans people do. But that just because they understand it doesn't mean they're doing it, you know, and the same with the basics like, even when you write something, you think is basic for for some people. It's like earth shattering. It's a breakthrough and other people who already know it are usually not doing it. And so it's like a reminder to them like, oh, these guys are right? I need to get back to do in these basics. Interesting way to look at it. And it's almost freeing to all of us who feel like we have to keep getting advanced or keep giving the this crazy ninja trick thing. But it's like no stick to the basics. Maybe sprinkle some of that stuff in there as well. But always have some basics in there. The core. Mentos for the exact same reason. You said there. I think that's exactly plus another thing you're dealing with. Is you? You just don't you? Don't most people don't value their own stuff for their own intellectual property, the because you're you're used to your custom to it. It's part of you. You know, it's like to you know, big deal, but to other people like it is a big fricken deal. So I mean, that's pretty common to you. Write something you think. I guess this is okay for most people get it. It's gonna be like awesome. Yeah. And that's that was our big. That's so a lot of our what we did back in the day in the newsletter has now translated to this podcast. Yeah. This is now our outlet or content and exactly what you just said. I will have these one on one conversations. No guests to call them therapy sessions, and those have now become some of the most popular episodes, and we're not planning for those typically sometimes walk away like really we're going to put that out. Okay. Being more popular resonate. Yeah. So I'm curious. Do you have any sort of process for coming up with and consistently staying fresh with your topics? I stay like. So I read a lot of stuff on a lot of different topics, and I have my own personal interests that I keep up on read about. But always I'm always keeping my finger on the pulse of the business. I'm in. So, you know, online marketing I work with clients and even the my own businesses in the past have a lot of 'em Aben. Health fitness bodybuilding stuff. I've had businesses and other Nisha business to business niches and I've worked with clients and several different categories. So I keep I keep my finger on the pulse of those. And just see what pops up. See what trends are happening. This was this was a while ago. But I was looking to start a new thing. Like, I said typical serial kitchen table entrepreneur starting businesses fun for me, not so much winning them. But starting. So start something new, and I thought I want to do something in a market of never done anything with and I was just reading through the news in I and they were talking about scrap booking scrapbooking is this is like I said, this is why 'back had caught like wildfire, and there were all these stores selling scrapbooking supplies. And I thought I'm gonna I'm gonna try selling some of these guys. So I figure like what can I sell? So I developed this this manual about how to make money with scrapbooking, which was simply creating scrapbooks for other people. But you know, that whole idea then tire business just came from me reading the news. So I think they answer your question is I just always have my intent up and sometimes an opportunity like that just jumps out other times just stuff gets crammed into my brain. And in later at pops out or the stuff that gets crammed in. It's like all mashed together in synthesized into some new that pops out. That's actually an interesting way that here. A lot of successful. Like, Elon Musk will read books in totally different fields than essentially synthesize together, some new invention or way of approaching business. And that's that's amazing. So is there a process that you take to record these thoughts, and then kind of extract those into your newsletter or is it just literally from your brain? I've got I've got what I call fodder files. So when anything even seems unrelated just for some reason clicks, Whitney in it will either go into the deal fodder file deals, dancer Doberman and letter or it'll go in my podcast fodder. File so, you know, and I go through those ideas or things or articles or whatever every so now every every so often, you know, deceive some will pop out and oftentimes does and that'll be come like the entire theme for newsletter or it will become the the theme for a podcast. That makes sense. I like that. So it's a sensually your swipe files fodder file is that a like down is a file folder. Is it literally like an Evernote file or something you have? They just always with. Well, I got I got folders and my g mail that I use. But I just I still do paper files, and I actually print stuff out and put it in the file folder because for some reason, it sure makes sense Sterry to organize stuff like with the folders. She now that stuff like goes missing. Or is just for some reason goes off the radar the stuff in hard copy. I refer back to at least that's funny because I heard your you move away a little from the microphone. I'm like, I think he's going through. Nail the. Put in the drawer. That that's awesome. So with with the with the newsletter is is the topic of the newsletter. Is it pretty much always copywriting or do you kind of very the topics month to month? I I've very the topics. I don't I honestly don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. I think if I could step back and look at this objectively like, I was my own client. So I was vise the client like me. I would tell them. Do one of two things or both of these two things like I plant your flag somewhere with with the market this easily reachable, you know, so player flag there and say that is going to be a newsletter for whatever it is. You know, physical, therapists and also decide on your superpower, whatever that is. And then talk about that theme every month. I did not do that. People even ask me when I lost my newsletter. That's interesting who's a four, whoa. Said anybody who uses direct response marketing and copy all line, and or offline just as matter that that's stupid because that market is so broad? They're really hard to reach in super expensive to reach that. That's why say like plant your flag somewhere specific and your fem- be the same thing every month. It's your superpower. Because what you're doing? You're showcasing your superpower for your specific audience every month, and what I'm doing first of all targeting this way, too broad and second of all I'm just pretty much writing about whatever I want to now the topics are always anything having to do with direct marketing, all marketing and copy. But then I right. So. Some like attitude stuff, you know, some. Head straight stuff. And it's funny like some of those written and I've finished, and I was really nervous. Oh crap. You were gonna hate this quit in droves. Because I didn't talk about marketing, and those are the ones I usually get the most feedback about positive feedback. We actually did a little bit of that. That was more. My side is like, oh, I'll read a little bit more about the mindset. I think I talked about breath work in one of the issues. And yeah, just like what you said there's little in right field. But we're out there because it's something I actually do. And what you know, people wrote in said, I really love that idea. I never thought of that interesting. Well, even have issues where we we talked about like, investing strategies leisure, and like setting money aside and stuff, and we're like, this is definitely gonna land and people loved it. No, that's so cool. I remember when I was a subscriber to Gary Albert's newsletter. Like all of a sudden, he just got on this investing tangent. And all taught about was how he's found that the stock of companies he can go up or down based on the news that comes out the press release is that come out that morning or the night before something like that he taught about that exclusively for months, probably because he was selling a product on it. But but like his core audience it just didn't matter. They just stuck with him. And like oh talking about investing this month and probably same thing with guys you you got a core audience of people who love you. And if you share something that you really believe is going to be helpful to them. Although it might be slightly off topic. You know, they they not only stick with you. But they appreciate it. And that's what we've come to. Gather of ourselves in this podcast is an example is that we're. Pretty good generalist. We can hang with a with a lot of these experts. We bring in noth- to talk the talk because we probably dabbled are experimented and then passed the results somehow to our folks through audio or newsletter something else, but you know, being those generalists it's kind of helped us out because we know there's a lot of opportunities that come from. You know, getting people interested in something we could follow up all sorts of different content offers and whatever it might be. Well, we've just recently started getting smart about it and actually segmenting people based on what their interests are too. So that we can tailoring their messages a little better. But yeah, we're that was one of the things that we've always sort of beat ourselves up over is that we are such generalists we've got expertise in SEO and paid traffic and copywriting and some direct mail the list goes on and on and on we've pretty much experiment with at all. And that was actually something that we used to beat ourselves up over. But this podcast has been now are out. Let to literally talk about all of it. I would you Dan. How would you recommend someone or would you recommend because I know you haven't really done. It yourself is from generalist to planting a flag. Like, do you think? That's always the case. What are you? What are your thoughts? There. So here's what I see. Like like, I said, my my audience is too broad. I I mean, I've been making it work. My gosh, I've been doing this nine years, but. You know, who knows what could have been if I would have done it a little better, my audience is broad my my expertise, even though copywriting is one of them like, you know, my expertise is various things. So I'm kind of somewhat of a generalist to in. Then I look at somebody like bend settle friend of mine in Cali so his he's planted his flag as the Email marketing expert, so his argued audience is it's not super Nisha. Like, you know, say, hey, this is just for accountants, it's, but it is it's nation away that it's for people who sell with Email, so that's kind of broad but him establishing is super power as one thing. That's what I hear what he's told me as worked out really well for him, you know, and then I know people that plant their flag and one area really narrow a one no guy one guy. I know only works with cosmetic dentists, but he's a generalist that works there. You know? And then I've seen people will plant their flag with one just narrow niche like that and their specialty is only one little narrow thing. So I guess I see people making it work in different ways. Yeah. So so with a two part question, would you recommend somebody to start a newsletter as as a part of their business or as the whole business? And then second part of that question if so like what what sort of advice, would you give somebody? That's just trying to get one going. What would be your your initial? You know, learn this lesson. So you don't have to go through what I went through. That's a good question. A lot of business people probably should have a newsletter. So how I discovered the power of it was that the last bodybuilding the second bodybuilding, south home and business that I started in two thousand four I was getting great results on the front and getting people in one of those free bottle, plus shipping and handling offers. But so this is back when they allowed you to do. So it was forced continuity, but so many people were quitting. They get the free bottle and quit. And like the first continuity wouldn't even hit yet. So that was killing me. So I thought I gotta fix this. And I added a newsletter put it on my site for sale years subscription for something like seventy nine bucks. But then with the auto ship included that as a bonus in like really played it up and built the value that you get this free news that are every month. You stay a member of of our auto ship. And I knew what content they will go crazy over. So I made sure every issue just had great content that was really hot and stuff for them. And all of a sudden the stick rate of one or less in my sophomore continuity program got up to average of four months, which doesn't sound like much, but in the supplement industry, that's like probably two times a little more than two times. More than what's typically Stander while. So I thought this is interesting. I tried to take the newsletter way very forms to save the money of sending it, you know, penny wise and foolish, and I tried to replace it with all Senate impede f. It'll look exactly the same is the print one. But I'll Senate an Email instead and then the retention rate. My continuity, tanked back Desiro, okay? I know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna have a special membership site for the people, and they can get the newsletter. There. The retention rates. Was horrid? Okay. Well, I see what's going on here. I added the print newsletter back in and all of a sudden retention goes way back up, and that's when I first discovered it. So so basically, I gave that newsletter away free to act of auto ship customers. And then when I saw what it was producing. I started giving it away free to customers who bought any product within the previous whatever was sixty days or ninety days, and I had an insert in every issue selling something. So I made money in at a really high profit margin on that newsletter every month in in that type of business with a free newsletter. So any business any business can use it like that as far as starting as a business? It self at depends on what business you're in. Because. Probably in most cases, you're gonna have a really hard time making money just by selling subscriptions. So it needs to be like part of your platform. Yup. Hey, Margie and get paid for it. But you know, there's got to be other stuff like you sell back in products or you offer really high priced on for you service. So the newsletter becomes not just the continuity income, but it becomes a way of generating clients for your high priced stuff and services that makes sense. Now, just a just for the listeners who have never experienced anything with like direct mail or newsletters or anything I'm just kind of curious to chat about the logistics a little bit. Like, what is it typically cost? How long is the newsletter? What is it typically cost to ship one out? I'm just kind of curious about all those logistical elements. That a lot of people would probably be curious about. Mine is sixteen pages now, and it's been that way for a long time. My first year like I kept getting a longer large because I had so much to say on topic. And I got the same feedback as you guys. I k- this is too long. And I thought okay, that's interesting. I feel like I'm over delivering on my promise, but they don't want it because they're suffering over. Well. So for me sixteen pages seems to have worked out to be what the ideal length is every month, and that bodybuilding business telling about I think that was only four pages four pages of content and then an insert which was a sales pitch. But so it's kind of an extra. Yes. Mine are sixteen pages. Black and white. It's easiest sending Email just every month. I Email the the artwork newsletter in PDF and the list to the letter shop. So that's it. That's only work. I have to do. And I sixteen pages. Black and white stuck in a nine by twelve envelope posters. Stuck on their the addressing all that stuff? I am going for memory here. Don't quote, but I think it's I think it's. Three bucks in change that sounds about right back when we were doing it as well. Yeah. Because we had the same kind of setup black and white when it was sixteen pages, but the same size envelope. All that stuff sends about right? Yeah. Per customer per per mailing until it started expanding into like forty pages and right towards our last like three or four issues. We actually started putting these hard covers on them. So that they looked more polished and professional, and then we started attic USB sticks it, and then books occasionally, we were just like totally destroying our profit merging as time went on. That's probably the overwhelm like you said, Dan. I mean, we thought we were like great. We're over delivering in people. Appreciate it, and they recognized it. But at the same time, I'm sure the consumption rate went way down to. Yeah. It's kind of ironic, but that's that's exactly what I discovered also why love the the usage of newsletter. So for folks listening just with the with the subscription type offer the stickiness of it. And I could totally see that. Because even if it's just a handful of pages five six pages, or whatever it is. Greek content. But if that's a expectation that these folks are getting and it's going to be in their mailbox. I could see that working for almost any type of continuity product out there, not just physical supplement or something. Like he had. I agree. One of the things. That's great at is building a relationship because you basically show up in somebody's home every month and have a personal conversation with them and they're expecting your arrival. And so. It worked. So well for that. That it's a great way to establish new business. In fact, Dan, Kennedy told me this. Most people think you know, he started zoos let or whatever it was forty plus years ago. Yes, it was it was a pay newsletter. But what what he said what most people didn't know is what he wanted to plan his flag somewhere. He'd find the key players in that market and people we wanted to work with and he gave them a complimentary subscription, but he didn't send him a letter saying on giving you a complimentary subscription, he just sent the new subscriber welcome package as if they paid and his point was, well, those are high producers that he's targeting and high producers are almost always readers, and they always subscribe to a bunch of different publications, and when they get it. They most likely think what's oh, new scribe new subscriber. Welcome. And they pay for this. And they start reading it. And that's how he is started in multiple markets. That's how he established himself planted his flag there, and then started getting, you know. Hi fi clients from there with comping newsletter. Subscriptions to key players in those markets, a cool that in if you're thinking costs like you were just saying sixteen pages three four bucks right there for rut vestments hell, the marketing like targeted marketing, you're going right to the person you gotta get their Email or their dress and details all that fun stuff. But sure you can figure that out or ask the right people. And yeah, you're marketing that's your marketing cost and just think of the benefit the upside of doing that it's an amazing strategy in today's world to we did a little bit of that kind of thing with our newsletter. We just sent them to people that we thought were kind of influencers in our market and. Every once in a while, you you'd see people on Facebook or Instagram or whatever showing a picture of their newsletter going. Hey, thanks guys for free newsletter. And it was just like, you know, we got a little extra promotional boost out of that too. That gray. I love that as much as I love all my marketing, I've been stealing all line. Since ninety six that was that bodybuilding business. I had I was selling info products offline mail order, but then I had them online and either late ninety six early ninety seven. So I was selling in phil- products and supplements shortly after that online. So I've seen all line progress from the wild west as to what it is now, and I love it. But if I wanted to plant might flag in a new market like, you know, if we're talking business to business stuff like all the sudden, I wanna market too. Whatever owners of construction companies or even something even broader like plastic surgeons, or whatever I wouldn't plant. My flag online, not initially. I do exactly what Dan Kenny was talking about. I'd find the key players that I wanna work with and I just comp a newsletter subscription sent him in the welcome pack is here's your new subscriber. Welcome in every month and watch clients for whatever. Hi fi service. I'm offering just pop up out of that. It's not it's not immediate. So it's not the quickest way to do it. But it's one of the best ways to do it. We may have some sort of mechanism built into our podcast where we collect every single guests address. You may have noticed when you registered me on the podcast. We ask for an address at a shirt size because we send every guest is shirt. But we're also keeping addresses for that type of thing if we ever start up our newsletter again our first handful. Oh of subscribers is going to be our podcast guests, you know, you'd be getting one. In this smart. And I love what you're saying is plant the flag. Ideally, if you could do it offline with a newsletter form or any type of content like a while box. I would imagine this can come in any shape or forms. As long as you know, your costs, you see it as a marketing expense or investment. And I would imagine like, even if you don't have this person's, you know, perfect address. It's just the office address plastic surgeon. Let's say, but it has a new subscriber welcome package, or whatever it is just make it look like them personalized than get to them. And it's going to get opened. Yeah. Do you have a do you have any team members or you? Are you a one man show? For for all intents and purposes, a one man show, I have. I don't have any employees. My wife works with me in our business. So my businesses the Doberman, Dan business that the newsletter is part of it. Well, so I call it the marketing Camelot and the newsletter is one of the benefits of being a night in the marketing Cam lot. So my business is that the subscription business. And then I also occasionally offer products on the back end about marketing stuff, and then clients done whatever you wanna call them done for you clients clients copywriting clients who pop up out of that universe. So that's that's my business. And it's just me and my wife no implies I do have a couple. Whatever you wanna call them, independent contractors. One person for customer service and also acts as like a personal system and help me schedule stuff, and in the only other independent contractor is a guy who keeps up on the maintenance and changes on my websites. Got in a love it lean business. Yeah. It's all you need. Now. I know I know we're kind of getting tight on time here. There's one last little topic. I want to touch on you mentioned your podcast. Are you still? You're still doing a podcast now. Yes. It's weekly is called off the chain with Doberman. Dan, very cool. So what if you found has been the benefits of having a podcast? Why why have you kept doing a podcast? My wife, and I were just talking about that like it's really hard to directly attribute revenue to it. Because like somebody stumbles upon the podcast or whatever. And they listen to it. And maybe I pitched my book on their pitched the marketing Cam, I don't pitch. But I I tell them to go to a website to check out my my book or my marketing Camelot, and so if somebody buys the book or signs up for the market Kenna, there's no tracking mechanism that I can institute. It'll show me they came from the podcast. I can attribute a couple riding clients that it was like the thing that sealed the deal they listen to for a while to figure out that I knew what was talking about. And that's what pushed him to contact me. Hire me of any other copywriter. So I can attribute that stuff to it. But like I said it's difficult to. Directly attribute revenue, but what I found is that it's just another great part of your platform to build a relationship with your existing people. So if that's all it does if it doesn't attract new people to you. It just builds a relationship with your existing people. It's worth it. Yeah. No, do you do interviews or is yours. Are you teaching on every episode? Is gone back of four. I got on a streak where it was just nothing. But interviews it started out with just me. And then a few interviews in makes in there. And then for some reason, I got on this track that it was all interviews. And then I went back to just lately, it's been nothing. But me, and I think we got one interview schedule for next week. So if you listen to its I've transitioned into new stuff, I started talking about marketing stuff, and now mostly the thing that most fascinated with. And I probably talk about most on the podcast is is mind set stuff. There's no and I've never done. That I can I can't even recall one incident where I've ever done any hard teaching. It was like it was just an interview. Or if it was just me, it was more infotainment and stuff. I've never done a podcast like, okay. Here's how you write. You know, a high converting piece of copy because frankly, like vats how I support my too bad habits of sleeping indoors and eating this. This. If you want me to share that you gotta pay me. So I'd say the podcast is more relationship building with infotainment, right? That is exactly what we try to harness here on the podcast because we'll just go board out of our minds recording these things if it's just streak content. No jokes, or no just cool conversations. I think yeah. That is key for everything and in translating that to your writing as well help so much and it when we were doing our newsletter. Again, it's like entertain ourselves. And I'm pretty sure listeners or readers are going to be entertained as well if we're having a good time. Yeah. I remember I actually used to be subscribed to bend settles newsletter for a year or so, and he used to always talk about the concept of the, you know, the highest some of the highest paid people in the world are entertainers and educators are usually fairly low paid you're probably better off trying to lean more towards the entertainer side than the education side. And it's been years since I read his stuff. So I'm probably butchering the philosophy. But I remember him talking about that quite a bit. No. That sounds like you nailed his point. Exactly. It's working to dance. I want to wrap it up here in. Well, I'm curious. So where do you see yourself headed, you know, in the next hin full of years as the newsletter going to be around or you start more businesses to I'm curious. That's that's a good question. I I'm always thinking about this. I'm going to assume I'll still be doing the newsletter because I still enjoy it. And in spite of all the suffering that it causes. I still I must be a sick sick person to enjoy this. So, you know, and I've got some really great night's. I don't call them subscribers their nights in the market Camelot, and I get really cool feedback from and I've met several of them in person, the really cool people. So I expect to keep doing that as far. Starting new businesses that gap. That's probably gonna happen. Even. Traveling going to happen. Wear. I don't know. But I'm right now, I'm just very fond of selling to the fluent sell it a people with money and selling expensive stuff. So any new project will be selling the people with money and expensive stuff the more expensive the better if I figure out how to sell a yacht with a sales letter. That's what I'll re-selling. Ooh, love it. When that happens. Let us know we'll have to recap. How you did it medley event recently who sells yachts for living. So maybe we can make the connection or something. Awesome. So what are is there a book that comes to mind that you just would love to share something that resonated hit home to you maybe refer back to it pretty often. Well, if I tell you the most recent one you'll think like what? But a book I really enjoyed in and learned a lot from was a fiction book. Well, it was when it was written in whatever it was late forties early fifties. It was fiction. Unfortunately, what wrote about is now nonfiction, but its atlas shrugged by i-in Ray and has ever read that no. But I've heard the description very similar to what you said. So I will now have to I've never read that either. It's a tone, man. It's like a doorstop. But I it's been a long time since I read it, I should reread it. But I really liked like the characters came alive for me. So that was cool. But it talked about basically talked about how tough it is to build anything to create anything in. That instance, you know, it was talking about business which I can really relate to and just first of all how tough it is to be a creator. And and second of all how tough it is to just run a business. How many things against you? And in his soon as you start making a little money, the the bloodsuckers come out of the woodwork, and there they will never be satisfied until they suck you dry and your dead in. And I just was a real wakeup call AIG. I'm reading it as fiction written in early fifties in realizing holy crap. What she wrote about his fate. Come true. And it's like, you know, man. We onto preneurs people trait staff. I mean, this is a lone gig man, we are truly alone like the majority ninety nine bent do not understand us. And even worse. A lot of them. Just see us as a meal ticket and they're just out specifically the garden, they're just out to bleed you dry. And that was I really sick. I really enjoyed. Well, yeah, you're in good. You know, you're not alone. When you're reading that you like, oh, okay. I'm not alone in this universe of creators out there, entre preneurs. However, you want to apply it. Yeah. So that already resonates the way that you just described it, and I will pick that up giant doorstop of a book that'll probably be one. I'll do audible. That don't watch the movie on. There's there's three par movie either on Amazon or Netflix. It's. Thanks. Save us a ton of time. Probably. Cool. So to wrap it up because I know you gotta get rolling. What are what's the best place that people can check out your newsletter podcast, everything you have in the mix. The best case to come into my world is on my website that Doberman day and dot com. And you'll see a couple of things there. You'll see what I call. My just call at the J s TD business model which stands for just sell the damn thing. You'll see that in action as soon as you opt in and then if you often every Saturday, I send a notice about a new podcast is published and there's a ton of articles on that site there too. So that's probably the best way to to get into my world. Awesome. Doberman did come will link that in the show notes as well. As some other stuff you mentioned throughout here. Matt. Meant anything else before we sign we covered a ton of ground. Thanks so much for hanging out with us and just opened up with us. Appreciate the. The. So I appreciate the invite. I had a good time. I hope you guys did two courses. Really sweet. We'll stay in touch, and we'll let you know what we hear back. If you back this one, please do somethin' have good one in. Yeah. We'll talk. Thanks, guys. Bye. Bye. Bye. Thanks, everybody. For listening to this episode of the hustle flow chart podcast for taking the time to listen, we want to give you something a little bit special every single episode that we do we actually have somebody on our team take notes, we basically have in Cliff's notes version of every episode where you can go and find all of the tips and tactics laid out all of the resources that they laid out all the good stuff from this episode. We actually have a nice simple note version that you can find on our website, evergreen, profits dot com. Find this episode that you just listen to give us your Email address. And we'll send you the notes. Thanks for listening. Don't get it. We love you.

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This the Trend, My Only Friend 1/21: Ozzy Osbourne, "Please Clap", Pamela Anderson, #CHEARS

The Daily Zeitgeist

15:30 min | 1 year ago

This the Trend, My Only Friend 1/21: Ozzy Osbourne, "Please Clap", Pamela Anderson, #CHEARS

"Mars the newest resort destination in the bombs just a short flight from the US and fifteen minutes from the comprised of three Lux oceanfront hotels else Grand Hyatt SOS in Rosewood Baja Mar features forty world class restaurants and nightlife spots eleven pools. The largest casino in the care are being plus golf tennis a SPA and more to book your stay. In explore winter specials visit Baja Mar dot com. That's BAR DOT DOT com. Hello the Internet and welcome to this episode Only family friends trending dailies. I host Lou On Jack O'Brien that Wonder vocal local Bryson Gray. Man's Eric Yeah that was seamless. I was not threats. The they're not they're not get at US seamless narrow. Yeah no it's door. Dashes the one that pays people sub sub minimum wage raises. Okay this little start off a little slander miles. Let's dive into some subjects. That are trending right now. Shower splash perfect the perfect. That's what you aim for. When diving big splash? That's right. Ah Ozzy Osbourne is trending Unfortunately he's revealed. He has Parkinson's yeah which is very said I I don't know it seems like a lot of the symptoms. We've seen him having fairly recently lineup with this. But it's still surprising. Yeah I think vink I think it's just that he only revealed it now But yeah he's I mean he's seventy one right and then you realize too. I'm like man like for seventy one he definite- looks like he's aged. But I I can only imagine what living as fast as one Ozzy Osbourne did. Yeah could dude but yeah he has a DNA mutation that makes him a particularly Like impervious to alcohol like he can drink think more than any other person basically there's like a DNA mutation and he can also do drugs. I think more than most people that's an actual thing. Yeah saying it was like a superpower imply. I swear that that was the thing that came through to us in a pitched crack article and I believe we checked it and it came up true so yes. Apparently he was just going through a lot of health troubles in the last year. And because the tabloids were basically being like He's on his deathbed and things like that. He just wanted to get out and telling you about what's going on with him. We British tablets or negative. But you know even when we do Blood Watch watch. How often you remember? Ozzy would show up a lot in the margins right out like saying you know he's only got so much too long that's true. Yeah it's It's terrible terrible illness and yeah it is. My soul is definitely better off from having dropped that from our show I think would watch Lloyd Watch but I think we had to get rid of it because there's so much actually worse shit. I don't have time to talk about shifting benefactor now shifting to benefit from from People to judge is trending as well as please clap two point. Oh is trending. Yeah so what. What is the origin? What what is the original? Please clap well. The original please. Clap is Jeb Bush Towards when he had that fire campaign going on read he was giving what some what he would describe as a rousing speech An audience was not responding to those lines. That if it were like like an Obama. I'm or something people would know. Oh yeah that's wow we're behind that instead it fell on deaf ears and all we got was please clap right. He was like annoyed like thank. y'All know how to do. This is viewed clap so now since a lot of the senators are in Watchi- all the senators who are renting are in DC for the impeachment. Went Buddha judges out here making the most of his time in Iowa and he was speaking with a crowd in Iowa in a very similar thing happened really impassioned Komo meant and no one. I think it wasn't clear to them what he was trying to get at. So let's play the Buddha judge one by having better hands guided by better values on those pulleys and Levers of American government. So we're GONNA look to you to spread that sense of hope to those that you know gone. The very crusty esque laugh. Honestly that warm me up to your anyone who loves outlawed last night Kristie any simpsons character. You got my vote. Just hopelessly really awkward Someone then of because the Internet is a cruel cruel place Especially twitter people have been someone I wanNA actually did. A side by side of the please clap and The New Buda Judge Come on folks so they're just deafening silence. Silence lines up. Yeah it's it's pretty good pretty good pacing. I'll just play this one for you so I mean if you haven't seen the original. Please clap video just it's only video that will come up if you say. Please clap. Almost the things that might have changed so much twenty four hours. But here's a side by side of the two moments better six on those security interests of this country looking. There's no please please. Clap is so much better like the way I mean. I think people are making a mess of the Buddha judge thing. It's really not that big of a deal but please clap still to me. Is the Goldline of any campaign. Pain gone wrong. Yes when you have to say y'all please clap read. Please clap. Yeah I'm surprised it'll it'll be interesting because this is something we've seen in the past with the mainstream media. When there was a candidate that they were like all right? It's time to stop taking this person seriously. Like Howard Dean after. Sure he lost in Iowa they kind of took a brief moment out of context and made it look worse. And now we're we're GONNA have that with social media and I do think people judges like having that Sort of energy deflation sort of organically right now so. Yeah well I think a a lot of millennials to our horn need dunk on. So it's one of those things unfortunately awake they're gonNA make a fucking Mount Everest out of a little dust pile Muslims. It's just funny because he likes the the benefit of this video. We got to hear his real life. Ray I do think we're going to start I feel like the Howard or Dean of the two thousand twenty race would probably be Bernie Sanders and I'll be interested to see some mainstream media attempts to Reenact reenact the dean scream in the coming months. I mean at this point. I think you know the overton window is not. There's no where is our threshold for something like that. Anyway right yeah that's true. I think trump you know when he said he was grabbing people by the Pussy on Wax Rx and that did nothing someone be like. Yeah man remember those days. Yeah exactly Pamela. Anderson trending back in the headlines in our hearts yes She got married. Yeah on Monday. Lucky number sir. John Peters who will produce the original star is born with Barbra streisand also the remake with Bradley and Gaga The both of them. It's actually both for both of them. Their fifth marriage. If you recall go through a quick history lesson optimists Pam Anderson her ex's Tommy Lee who she she has the two sons with Kid Rock Rick Solomon twice and so that's her four. This'll be a her fit and then recently she was living with a soccer player named Adil Rami in Marseilles and for Peter's he he's been married to Lesley Ann Warren Hall remember that toured Love Affair. That flamed out early seventies Then hairdresser took up with Barbara streisand. Who We met on the set of comedy for Pete's sake and that became begin twelve year toward love affair that spa that that spawned the streisand film stars? Born I guess anyway the thing that makes that really warms my heart about this is that they're twenty two. He's twenty two years older than her but he has loved loved her since he laid eyes on her at the playboy mansion when she was only nineteen are warming off the forty one year old guy newly married the nineteen year old at the the sex cave. Yeah And so the way. He describes Pamela Anderson though like he really I mean regardless of what you know whatever the real issue relationship chip is he has he clearly has been having is for her. This is a quote about Pamela Anderson. That he gave he said Pamela has never seen her full potential as an artist. She has yet to shine in a real way. There's much more to her than meets the eye or I wouldn't love her so much. There are beautiful girls everywhere. I could have my pick but for thirty five years. I've only groomed PA-. I've only wanted Pamela Mike. She makes me wild in a good way. She inspires me. I protect her and treat her the way she deserved to be treated. So Jon Peters I was just I was just realizing as as we went in on the story that he is the producer user who was obsessed with putting a giant mechanical spider in that Superman script and Kevin Kevin Smith missiles during the rewrite on and then John Peters ended up Being one of the producers on Wild Wild West and got his mechanical spot his mechanical. Oh spider finale. The reason noodle that is because he I knew that that producer started out as a hairdresser for Barbara streisand auto and then did like flashdance. I think yeah yeah. Yeah he was on top of the game in the seventies the eighties. Yeah he said he saw her at the at the playboy mansion and he was pleading with her to not do playboy when he met her. You could have a real career uh-huh and I mean I credit to her. I mean the pass. You took made her pretty huge name. You had no shade. I did watch the show. VIP She used to be on Vallery Orange Protection Agency and she was not a great actress on that. Were not that great although barbed wire stellar stellar. I think she was nominated. Uh for cheers. Also can you imagine do you. Do you remember how many people got the barbed wire arm tattoo as like. That was the time that film embodied Heidi entire colts subculture of the barb. Wire getting that thing on your arm. What year did that come out? It was the most of its time. Movie to ever complete flame in nineteen ninety six ninety six what a year of cinema and I feel like the film cover the poster for the film was basically like a playboy cover. She's just holding a gun. Yeah she's like I'm topless basic. It's implied topless. But I got a glock implied toplessness And cheers I just WanNa say the tax you know you're reading that long it's Mash Tag. C. H. A. R. S. which is shorthand for when there's a Premier League football match happening so this was Chelsea verse Arsenal got it. That is why I have shoehorned into the dock. Mary conveniently so I can get a little bit of my premier league. Talk going on It was a great match. Okay L. C. is in fourth place or yeah it was in fourth place. We're in twelfth place. At the time we're going into this match and traditionally arsenals been a top four team. We just had an abysmal abysmal season. Out of how many twenty okay. So in the taking what they call the bottom half of the table. And you know it was a hard-fought match our one of our defenders who used to be a Chelsea player. Got A straight red card. The fans didn't like it. But we clawed back with ten men to eke out a two two draw. Aw Jack and what I mean I feel like I just watched braveheart and fifteen seconds. That's just my heart is three times the size it was before I heard it is is beautiful man. That's not because your diet has nothing to do with that. Yeah it was. It was an amazing thing. Also I just want to point out are the person who's playing captain. Hector Beller in he. blew Louis. ACL At in this game over a year ago so this is him. It was kind of a really great comeback. He came back after. ACL injuries are. That's it you know for they can potentially career ball and and always a season under any small sports yeah but he came back and scored the goal to give us the draw. So is is a bit up poetic. Yeah it's interesting because more recently in the NFL they've been less season ending There was just getting right back out there. People are getting. I'm back out there quicker than they ever have before. What are we talking like if you get? Let's say you did it like so quickly. It was unbelievable. I mean this was maybe five six years ago but and obviously technology has regressed since then. I'm just wondering what training secrets. NFL fell athletes are not sharing with their football bread. Dron across the I wonder because in football your your foot work is mostly about hugh maneuvering versus when you're playing fully. You gotta like pass the ball kick the ball dribble the ball so much as leg centric bright. Obviously but like obviously for someone as a running back knees aren't doing aren't firing on all cylinders and doing that. Great Yeah So I don't know I don't know yeah it could just be that Most football football teams are gigantic entities. That are like get them out quickly as possible. Right Yeah I mean. I was implying that it was performance. Enhancing supplement. You think it's not stem cells straightened Indians. Also someone who's doing like Placenta treatments on a knee injury. We had a sprayer go. Kobe did that one. Yeah Yeah So. But then that's look the real competitors. They're going over there for the the weird treatments All right that is going to do it for this. Evening's trending Zeitgeist AK. This is the trend We will be back tomorrow with a the whole new episode. Yeah Jackie enjoying the birthday party. Yeah two year olds tonnage that unfortunately I have to go. 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ITT Sound Off: Nonstop Disasters

In The Thick

21:35 min | 1 year ago

ITT Sound Off: Nonstop Disasters

"Welcome to in the thick. I'm Lorella and I'm king and this is it. Sound off. Doc I one of twenty twenty happy New Year Jamila Year. Julio let's just get to it with our first topic which is going to be about the natural disasters astor's that have been happening all over the world so there we go catastrophe I'm GonNa start with my home country of Dorigo because since December Twenty Twenty Eighth Puerto Rico has been experiencing hundreds of earthquakes so the largest earthquake happened on Tuesday and one of the things about the stimulus like most of the damage happened on January six which is three kings day. It's like Latino Christmas and there was one on the seventh. It was a six point. Four magnitude size is earthquake. It happened put. The Rica southern region it even caused some landslides in some areas earlier this week. Almost half the population. They had no power. But it's starting to get restored. There's still a lot of people without running water. There are thousands of people who are not in their homes or sleeping outside. They're literally sleeping outside. Outside afraid of their homes collapsing. One person died. School collapsed in Guate- so on Tuesday later that day a governor won the Vasquez issued a state of emergency made an emergency declaration that president trump signed but that only covers the immediate needs. I mean that's uneven. Helping people look at their homes. You know it's just like basic needs and that's only going to cover up to five million dollars in damages already. The estimates are way beyond that just so I remind everyone. This is happening after hurricanes. Maria and aroma happened in two thousand seventeen and he goes still hasn't gotten the federal aid for that. Many are calling for Vasquez to put forward a major disaster declaration basically calling the Rico a national disaster zone which would be on the federal level and provide the Rico with federal funds for both immediate and permanent work. It's really critical for that to happen for Puerto Rico. It's Friday morning right now as of this recording. That has not happened. So there's a lot of problems already happening on the local level on the federal level people in Puerto Rico. I've been talking talking to them all week. They're stressed they're literally many earthquakes happening as we speak. As of Friday morning there are at least eight. Reported waited until here. It is the trauma. Yeah upward thirty. Go Yeah and I just WanNa hat tip Chris Hayes. I was watching. MSNBC on Thursday night and he actually said this about Puerto Rico making things even worse. Puerto Rico is that the President United States bears them a grudge for having the temerity to have experienced a disaster. You're under his watch. The devastating Hurricane Maria in two thousand seventeen in fact there was recently reporting that the president personally intervened in the big the end of your budget deal with the sole purpose to cut Medicaid funding four Puerto Rico as the island attempts to deal with the latest disaster. This would be a good time for the. US Federal Government to implement recommendations from its comprehensive review. The failures of Federal Response to Hurricane Maria twenty seventeen which resulted in nearly three thousand thousand deaths accept such a comprehensive review does not exist and that is an absolute outrage. I tweeted to Chris. It is an outrage. wjr It's so complicated this colonialism. This is US thirty. This is what happens when you're in a debt crisis and people still think like Oh Puerto Koreans are Americans worried right. We're colony. This is what happens. We do not have the ability to power the federal government. It's not like running to our aid as quickly as say if this happened in California. I mean you're from earthquake region to me La not to like fat pigeonhole you you. But what are your thoughts about Puerto Rico or just in general about this so Leo this week I was actually down in Atlanta doing stuff with the weather channel. And they're doing a lot around climate justice but I was talking to this guy who is considered the father of environmental justice. His name is Dr Robert Blurred and you know he breaks it down really we simply that environment is how live how we how we worship how we engage with the environment around us and when you think about all the ways you know when you think about how how expensive it is to get food and Puerto Rico when you think about yeah how so. Many families have had to flee for generations right to get jobs better opportunities and other places It really he puts into perspective. Just the sort of wider view of environmental catastrophe in Puerto Rico. Right I was actually one of my friends ends Marvin Marcano who is on instagram. As problematic. Poppy he had just come home from Puerto Rico for the holidays and When the biggest earthquake hit he you know posted something that was just really emblematic of how awful this is right? And so he posted a screen shot of a jetblue flight. Play a domestic flight. Just a regular sort of coach ticket. That was two thousand dollars. Wow to get from Puerto Rico to New York the price gouging. It's already happening right so you you see that constantly. I think all of these play together all of these work together to show how folks are being preyed upon by really selfish fish interests and have been for generations. No and I think I get allies talking opportunity go I just ask for allies to look at this in the context of what it is to live in a colony what it is to live in austerity right now. Because there's no money in Puerto Rico. The power plant is shot. The one in the south might not even open for a year. There is such deep structural issues in Puerto. Rico that result from being an island colony. Exactly what you're saying it's not just about. Oh here's another catastrophe atrophy there deeper issues and I just asked people to get beyond like Oh. Puerto Ricans are Americans just WanNa share what the USGS which is the United States Geological Survey tweeted on Thursday in terms of a forecast for earthquakes. And this is what it. What is the tweet says? USGS forecast three percent chance of one or more aftershocks larger than a magnitude six point. Four in Puerto Rico in the next week and that's smaller earthquakes are likely to occur. So I just WanNa show that fact we also have to talk about another place that's been experiencing climate disaster for months now and that is the continent of Australia. Since in September there have been massive Bush. Fires all over Australia which were fueled by high temperatures and a months-long drought but over the last week the fires I have been intense and at least twenty seven people have been killed over seventeen million acres of forest Bush and Park have burned and this is devastating more more than one billion animals are said to have been killed as a result of the fires. The State of New South Wales was hit. The worst over thirteen hundred homes were destroyed leaving thousands thousands homeless. Now Julio for me this you know my home state of California Burns every year. Yeah you're you're in California you got wildfires wires ANA earthquakes all instantly become sort of our climate expert. Here so James less who. I work the mother Jones podcast. He's Australian and he was mentioning to me that you know. Essentially the fires are currently taking a twice the size of New Jersey which is something that California Oh has not seen you know on that type of scale how mcgary in California. We've seen big fires. We've not seen something that big. I think that what we're seeing again is as has the climate gets warmer as these climate catastrophes drum up more in frequency We're seeing the most vulnerable communities suffered the worst And so in Australia You know haven't seen much about this but I do WanNa shout folks on twitter who've been bringing attention to first nations and indigenous folks Australia who pappas fraught relationship obviously asleep for generations and are feeling the brunt of this exact currently and you know I think that time and time again we see that the most Of impacting communities are trying to sound the alarm about this for decades and decades and decades. And it's not until wealthier folks wider folks. Get a taste of it that it starts to matter. I know it's. It's not just Australia right in Indonesia which is not that far away. I mean if it's not part of the region while these wildfires are happening in Australia Indonesia and I'm according from grist has been inundated with rain. Triggering landslides and floods that have killed dozens of people as of Tuesday the torrential downpours have left at least sixty seven people. Dead is rising waters deluge more than one hundred eighty neighborhoods and landslides buried at least a dozen Indonesians. I don't know it does seem like there is urgency here but are we just becoming sort of like observers of disasters on social media and be like. Oh look at this look at this. Look at this is what's happening. I just feel like in the end governments. You know the fact that Puerto Rico is just waking up to the reality that they've have have a history of earthquakes in the past. It happened about one hundred years ago. There was a seven point one magnitude earthquake in one thousand nine hundred import on. It hasn't really happened. I mean there has been seismic activity mhm mostly in the southern region for a while. But there's never been an earthquake. Preparedness Plan Right. There's talks about schools not being built up to code. There's some serious. A structural issues happening in countries like the Rico. And that's the part where I'm just struggling with this. We know climate changes. This is a reality. I don't think governments are prepared and that's the stuff that scares the shit out of me. So one through line is the lack of investment that we as a society put the government puts into fighting natural disasters so in Australia right now the majority of firefighting force is largely made up volunteers. which is crazy until so you think about the fact that places like California a huge swath of folks who fight these fires every year or not mulling tears there? In fact folks were in prison getting paid paid like slave wages to fight fires and can't qualify to actually become a firefighter when they are released into the free world so these are the structural impacts that we're seeing These are the inequalities that we're seeing play out in real time. As he's devastating climate disasters continue to recap vic on our land. So let's move onto our second topic. which is going to be about? Iran after trump made the decision to assassinate Iran's top military officials officials Qassim Suleimani last week Iran retaliated by striking a US. Army base in Iraq. No Americans Iraqis were killed in the strike. which some believe was the intention because Iraq was warned about the missiles prior to the strike and on Wednesday? Ukrainian airplane crashed after being hit by I missile near the airport in Tehran. Killing all one hundred seventy six people on board. US and other allied officials believe the strike was from Iran and was accidental antle because Iran's defense systems were on high alert. This is what Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said about the strike which killed sixty three Canadians. who were on board? We have intelligence from multiple sources including our allies and our own intelligence. The evidence indicates indicates that the plane was shot down by Iranian surface to air missile. This may well have been unintentional. However Iran is denying this and says they're still investigating then on Thursday? The House voted on a resolution that would limit president trump's power to take any further military action against Iran without Congressional approval although it's not legally binding the resolution passed with two hundred twenty four votes votes and even some Republicans breaking on trump on this issue and while it seems tensions between Iran and the US have been temporarily de-escalated trump's bizarre. Our press briefing on Wednesday didn't help answer a why he provoked a confrontation with Iran. In the first place we caught a total monster and we took. Oh come out and that should have happened a long time ago. We did it because they were looking to blow up our embassy. We also did it for other reasons. That were very the obvious somebody died. One of our military people died. People were badly wounded just a week before and we did it. And we had a shot at Adam and took it and that shot was pinpoint accurate and that was the end of a monster then and that was really. That was the second attack that was not we didn't started. They started by killing one of our people and wounding badly other of our people so that you call retribution. Yeah he gave this bizarre sort of weapons of mass destruction claim about Sulamani on Thursday nights. Saying that he had plans to blow up the US embassy or like which is like no one is saying that that's real will which is incredible and anyone that's reporting as well I'm hesitant to even bring it up because this is like Iraq over again right here we go. Oh man and another thing about our Iraq because this is not just about Iran actually the Prime Minister of Iraq Adil Abdul Mahdi He. He posted a statement on his official facebook. Page saying that Iraq was and I'm quoting keen to keep the best relations with all its allies but then he also said that there was a parliament. Vote to withdraw. US troops that the US should. And I'm quoting safely withdraw troops from Iraq and then he got on the phone with Secretary of State. Mike pompeo on Thursday to basically say like. Let's go we gotta like talk about how we're going to withdraw troops from Iraq and then on Friday. The White House announced new sanctions against Iran in response to their attack of the US bases in Iraq. So this is feeling like a vicious cycle here. Camila what's going on like we've seen historically that embattled presidents who are seeking reelection continually only star wars right. This is can look down the line you can look at George Bush. You can look at Bill Clinton but I think you know this is as as my colleague. Got Joan Shane. Bauer said he spent a Lotta time in Syria and he said something that was really interesting. which is that of course the? US custom metal. Just at a time when Iraqis were starting to actually protest didn't organize in order to hold their own government accountable and now it's like that's not in the news anymore anymore right now. What's in the news or these two sort of superpower or two powers using Iraq to sort of like monkey in the Middle Right? It's terrifying. You know it's terrifying that This is what we were all afraid of. When trump was elected right he would just sort of off the cuff? Do some crazy shit to get us into a war and here we are. You know I'm not surprised. But it's pretty devastating devastating for Iraqis devastating also to see how much we haven't learned in the media coverage of this. That's the part. Where are I don't know? Maybe it's a lack of global awareness. And maybe I've been exposed to you know in my journalistic career actually actually worked with international journalists but this notion of the mid releases being this dehumanized place where these aren't real human beings. We're talking talking about which has always been an issue since since Iran in the seventies during the hostage crisis. This is sort of an American trope that you see through the Persian Gulf War of first Bush and then you know the Iraq war and even during nine eleven now and anyone that questions that is seen as not American enough. I think these are real people. I mean the people that died on that plane are real people who's talking about the Iranians that have died on that lane. I mean we pseudo talking about the Canadians but it's almost like the Middle East has become this. You know dehumanize place and the only human even people are Americans which are just fine to be like a bunch of crap so come on yeah all right so let's move on to our final topic topic. This is actually the first time we're going to be talking about the impeachment. Twenty eight twenty like all of a sudden we were leading in the thick in December. It's a sort of our quasi-permanent segment but I think people have forgotten that. Trump trump was officially impeached by the House of Representatives. I'm just on December eighteenth and there's been no progress to the next step which is a Senate trial so Senate Senate Majority Leader Mitch. McConnell told Republicans that he expects the trial will start next week as soon as Nancy. Pelosi submits the articles of impeachment and after Pelosi has been holding back on sending the articles of impeachment for weeks. That's been going on right. That's the push and pull on Friday. She hinted to house Democrats that she's preparing to send the articles to the Senate next week. Boom that's what she does did. Little Friday drop their by Nancy. Pelosi and Pelosi said that she's been holding back until McConnell proves that the trial will be fair and impartial. And really this was all about whether they will allow allow for the calling of witnesses so for example like calling former national security adviser John Bolton who recently said that he would testify if the Senate subpoenaed Jamila I know you were kind of like. I'm impeachment like fatigue by the impeachment but all of a sudden he just disappeared. Yeah it it was like man it was like. Oh let's Sumani died the boom. So what do you think about this. So here's the thing Leo. I'm from San Francisco. Nancy Pelosi Pelosi got her political Bona Fides Francisco. I'm from the fillmore. She's from Pacific Heights. which you know if you're not familiar with San Francisco is like what Harlem is the upper inside or something like that? It scares me that I have to say that we have to trust Nancy Pelosi but we have to trust if Pelosi right like she's she's got some political gamesmanship and I think I've heard some analyses are just like she is. She's playing the waiting game for very strategic political reason. And we've seen that right like I think that if we had moved quickly with this before the New Year a lot of developments that we've seen in the past couple of weeks wouldn't have happened. That may have put some senators sort of on the fence. So the whole point of this is that the Senate is most likely going to vote against impeachment. Not Up for debate. Exactly maybe one or two. Maybe who knows. But you don't expect like all these Republican senators being like. Oh Yeah I know we should impeach him. Yeah right that's not happening. Yeah and the point is that trump is so impulsive. Also and he's so child like that if you prolong this. He's going to do something else to to make it worse for himself. I think that's the idea behind waiting but I also think I think that again along with impeachment fatigue like you drum up so much interest in this these proceedings and then you kinda stall. I think it's surreally dangerous. Game that Pelosi in house leadership are playing by dragging this out because you risk further alienating. People like me who are already skeptical. That impeachment is actually GonNa do something so you know we'll see we'll see what happens but you know here we go we. This is the state of our union where we have to trust Nancy. Pelosi itself go for it and it's only January twenty twenty. I mean Jamila is prepping myself for this year to be one of those years as a journalist so I'm actually glad that I disconnected during holidays. Anyway that's our. It sound off for this Friday. 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US Openly Destabilizes Iraq, Trump Threatens To Obliterate Turkish Economy & Erdogan Attacks Syria

The Last American Vagabond

1:28:34 hr | 1 year ago

US Openly Destabilizes Iraq, Trump Threatens To Obliterate Turkish Economy & Erdogan Attacks Syria

"Yeah this but before I get into what it's about I wanna point something very clear out for everybody this is not something that's new and that's that's the problem it's being presented today as some kind of new humint there is alarming parts within this but understand that this as you can see was posted on ten three IRV component marine marine's ordered to active duty ISO defense support of civil authorities. Now I've got sent this by numerous people very clearly being orchestrated manipulated to some degree Israeli Saudi Arabia United States involved in what's going on there does that mean there's not thousand nineteen now this is being spread around as documents talking about how they're authorizing basically using the marines too this is being misrepresented in many different ways not I wouldn't say by most people intentionally but I think this is being misrepresented so let's jump over to this real quick and take a peak oh dis which it just seems this is completely falling apart the Saudis are over as far as I'm concerned so we'll probably talk about some more of that tomorrow but let's start with something that I thought was l. says the Marines the official website for the United States Marine Corps now this says manpower guidance for activation and deactivation of very important to cover not just because I think it's an interest- interesting and intriguing document that's important but but that ultimately the US foreign policy as well as the fact that this is a NATO ally and how all of them are illegally operating inside of Syria and it gets it gets crazy genuine parts of the protests of course not I rarely think that's the case but I think as far as I'm concerned beyond a shadow of a doubt I believe that they are manufacturing these protests for multiple different and especially since I didn't do show yesterday now it's going to be largely the Iraq protests which in my opinion based on the evidence we have in front of us it is to help civil authorities on basically domestic which violates the Posse comitatus act that's the problem with this martial law is the idea so people are spreading this today uh-huh Monday October seventh two thousand nineteen thank you for joining me today I'm going to focus primarily on two main topics today the two largest of the story are violating the law including Donald Trump. But it's a distraction and I argue that it will be just like Russia gate and ultimately go nowhere because that's what these are meant to do that's my take on it but I put off for some stuff today I was going to touch a little bit on the Ukraine Gate story despite the fact that I think all of you know that I think it's very clearly a distraction people on all sides in story so you can check that out they've been covering it in and out and I'll probably touch a little bit on it tomorrow with well as the story about apparently some more surrenders and more operations coming from the the first discussion point a document that we're GonNa talk about here this has been flying around all over the Internet most of you have probably seen it this is from marines dot a very interesting situation the way it's developed in the way that all the way up until just now with some breaking news what's going on inside of Syria and how this is so wildly hypocritical and well I think the day before yesterday and when you dive into this seems alarming and and not it's not that it's not alarming there's definitely alarming parts stories that are going on and I had a lot else that was going to try to get into that I ultimately pushed over till tomorrow just because these things there's so much information going around going on around these stories there's still some important stuff to these stories that tie back to earlier administrations and things that go beyond the two party illusion so against they'll refer you to the durant who's been doing some great work on the about how it's alarming and how this shows us that they're just about to do this but here's the problem with that here's the same similar basically the same document from to awesome fourteen no it's not that this is not still just as alarming but I want people to understand that this is just them revitalizing the document and what they added reasons and of course we're going to discuss what's going on in Syria today birth or and from yesterday into today with Donald Trump and Turkmen air don and it's it's but there's one main difference the word homeland is nowhere mentioned in this document as you can see I believe you can see me searching for that at the top you can't that document that that's what's alarming to me as we discussed this actually my discord community which I recommend all of you join the over the last couple of days talking about this and what anyway I'm searching for homeland so a job over here search for homeland on the recent document up and there's something additional added to this about specifically in regard to means as you can see older documents just simply says manpower policy for Mobilization of Reserve Component Marines defense support of civil authorities it seems similar I find the right spot here for you hold on a second while I thought I had this under control threats from the homeland that is what makes this alarming now there's a couple of things I wanted to go inside this document but I wanted to be clear we're very clear that this is not some new thing that's being project now put out for us right there's there's more that this is something that's always been there but they added stuff to this and it says in accordance with REF REF a this provides guidance for the activation of reserve components Reserve Marines under this act under title ten US code following a request for federal assistance in response to major disaster or emergency within the United States begin to recognize that we are the ones that they're concerned about we are the ones that they have directed all of this stuff towards since nine eleven request for federal systems will come with little warning as required the Marine Corps must rapidly mobilized our C. units and personal I w this there we go okay so this is the spot I was looking for right in front of me the whole time so it's basically says purpose guy it says that this basically to recognize the point that I'm getting to with this is that all of this stuff is directed inward at us we're the threat and I think that's what we need second so we understand what exactly major disaster emergency means but it says weirdly enough the Secretary of Defense Mike Pompeo may without consent this cancels the older one right so that's something that most people immediately missed thinking that this was a brand new document that's unprecedented it's not the case from two thousand fourteen but this replaces the old one it says per ref be if a governor request federal assistance in responding to a major disaster or emergency as those terms are defined in one or two which will look at me the man the member affected or any unit and any member not assigned to a unit organized serve as a unit of the Marine Corps Reserve to active duty for a continuous period of not more than one hundred twenty days to respond to the governor's request now this is talking about within the United States understand which I don't understand how that is not immediately in order to respond to threats in the homeland see and understand that was the part that was added and that to me is quite alarming raid were were congress is supposed to be able to hold them accountable and it never happens same thing here in my opinion but here is the document twenty days so at least there's some limitation placed on this but understand that that is the part that almost never gets acknowledged simple such as the war powers act where they're supposed to have a certain to supplement state and local authorities and capabilities to save lives and to protect property and public health and safety or to lessen or avert the threat of a catas- section one zero two which is what it referred to in regard to and this is what's called it's a Robert t Stanford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act and it basically outlined it's an emergency means any occasion or instance for which in the determination of the president federal assistance is needed word you the homeland threat that's what this is about what are the of our concern but not something necessarily new in what they tend to do with these things for free in many parts of the United States which the point being you can understand and see how that can very easily mean just about whatever they wanted to all they have to do is just the same way that they made were they pretend oh it was just a contingency even though we know for sure that that was not the case opertion north woods being a false flag that was organized by the a violation of the Posse comitatus act but but I guess that's where we get into the idea of the emergency now one of the participants has no case Shell mobilization exceed one us that they are adding inside this document basically turning it from a document about using preserve military personnel for urgencies and directing it in the border emergency or made what the giving weapons to Saudi Arabia emergency right this is what they do this is how they abuse these things but recognize that it should be alarming now we have things like this where it's probably not just a contingency but rather setting the stage for where they see this going that should be alarming now the president's desk for authorization for action and he said no just just a quick back story about what you understand the US government has done in this capable of in the past main point here what we need to recognize as as Americans more than anything is the alarming fact that since nine eleven also included a video from Dabo seven something huge is brewing altered to prove marines for activation soil where he goes over some of the other information an event that is now being proven to be not at all what we were told all of the resources that were marshaled using that false event pass it off as some contingency plan right oh well we've we we we plan for every possible contingency you're just looking at that one sort of reminds me of the operation North Woods Idea Kennedy's administration with a plan to kill American citizens in the US and blame it on Cuba the plan was done was planned out approved of and place toward the American people white supremacy towards domestic terrorist towards it's all been focused toward us as opposed to the threat we were told the tuition free zone that encircles our country two out of three Americans right this moment live in that area I mean maybe that's the entire point recognizing the all of all of the restrictions the laws that were passed that have been passed afterward have all been directed toward you now in this video it feels like it's it's making it sound like you to something unprecedented and that's what I was trying to make it clear that it's necessarily that it's not necessarily never been done but hundred Mile Bo constitution free zone that borders our country yeah that's a real thing that people probably have no idea about the hundred mile and growing public enemy number one is the American Patriot or anyone who still believes that our rights shall not be infringed anyone who dares two out of three Americans right now live in areas where their inalienable constitutional rights are just ignored for your safety of course this update a document that we just went over about the Marines and reserve simply puts into writing what any I would say who have been paying attention have long known great information this video so including the show for you to check out for yourself so you can continue looking into this because dob who's always doing some great work on these stories now again the vast majority of the country lives on the border or rescues me that you know the outskirts the coastal areas maybe that's why they're driving everyone towards those areas people the truth about government actions or any who dared to question their mandates in the land of the free and today Iraq's government has learning that first-hand this is actually coming from NBC of all places and there's a reason that I chose to start with this one Iraq blames militias hands as toll no hated our freedom thing directed inward in such ways as you know things that you might not even know about such as the you know hundred border exact same information wouldn't you say that's what they do and understand these are about the same thing it's amazing that you can have such to shockingly different titles arranged rights go just you know don't no longer exist should give us an insight into where this country is at the moment really wake you up to some of this stuff but at least they mentioned it they briefly mentioned that Iraq said this stuff and in the headlines no less which is good instead of what they usually do ignore the counterclaims from unrest tops one hundreds weirdly worded title but but you know had to point out at least NBC here mentioned the allegations in present the US government stand says unequivocal fact or at the very least the predominant narrative like with this independent article from today Iraqi officials are saying that there are militias hands being there behind all the killings of both protesters and security forces during these recent protests. For two months ago KS Qazi Ali said there's plans to change Baghdad's government in November with protests erupting in October I mean as protests not spontaneous but organized by factions in Iraq mark my words will he must be psychic or they saw it coming talk about agenda Twenty One and twenty thirty there's there's logic to these things but the fact that they can create a zone inside this country where your inalienable shall not be that we were right once again as it seems pretty clear that this was at least planned months in advance and there's so much around this that we're going to get into the show just to jump to conclusions will always always give you my opinion but it's we have to wait for things to flush out before we really see what's going on and as it continues to do so it appears wide there's so many things to make you question the story around this whole thank you for the support now this says one over and we were being suppressed on social media the information didn't get out you understand the media didn't cover it now he's a leader of a prominent Iraqi group who interesting from Iraq's government read that Iraqis saying look there are people doing this stuff this is not and of course that could be alive and they put it in quotes to kind of give you that impression that well we don't really believe it in Baghdad as well as I mean by all accounts it seems like this is largely all the way across Iraq now as this continues to flesh out which is always what's important to wait for them Abia sure they just really want to support the Iraqis even though they've said the exact opposite about what's going on right now supporting on the side of the obvious agenda Lina twelve years ago also fought against the US and British invaders the time now during the protests seems that interestingly in addition to that mine confirmed for the first time on Sunday that indeed one hundred four people have been killed which we knew including eight security officers on their side and more talk about the same information and the same topic Iraq protests death toll Soares's pro Russian militias accused of shooting protesters will that is quite a different way to spin the coming from none other than Saudi Arabia. I know you're shocked to hear why would something like this so obviously not covered it's connected to the story I think you know why apparently six thousand wounded in the protests no understand this is massive is this is a very very very large of the acts of aggression obviously and of course this is the data that they pulled from from the website sixty five percent coming from Saudi Arabia conclusions. I personally take evidence that I can research over claims that people who've been caught lying but that's just me now interior ministry spokesman cy about that just the fact that you could argue plenty of things around this that he's lying that he'd be in it whatever but the fact that he can nail it so perfectly so long ago snipers coming from multiple places and video of them in fact shooting Iraqi military as well now this this was coming from partisan girl the obvious calling of exactly what went down but if you could put that aside there's ways that you could explain that but it seems that during it the vast majority of the tweets is one of her tweets pointing the exact exact point out in Iraq unseen snipers are firing at both protesters and police online easy so you can very clearly see the heat map right so it's just weird how all of all of the the focal comes vocal energy comes from Saudi Arabia. I mean it's hard to ignore but as always I mean anything could be manipulated as you know so you take it as data point and you continue to move forward and you add it to other that the choose to look at and again as always imagine if this even a quarter of this was happening in an adversarial country we know what would happen now man said that the ministry the the corruption in the government the basic things you would expect from a civilian population wanting to get rid of a US backed puppet government now the rallies soon turned into riots bullets now the protests began last Tuesday at least when it began to get attention with demonstrators calling for sp- just specifically better living conditions esten rack are coming from Saudi Arabia not from Iraq here's the images they include all the wings from this Gerald's for you to look into this stuff yourself and by the way trends maps you can do yourself but they can't have you remembering stuff like that that's why they're rewriting history and real time with every possible effort constantly now I I got the picture translates basically says according to trends map which is one of the most accurate twitter on analytics web services about sixty five percent of tweets about the pros ace and there's a video that you can play yourself and the last time this happened she says was in two thousand five and the two British SAS were caught being behind the spokesman most of those that were killed on Friday had been shot in the head or the heart obviously assign it skilled. Cyprus were carrying out the things about the story and you come your own conclusions at some point you just have to see the waterfall of evidence where you're not getting anything on the other side as I say about every single thing we talk about foreign policy because as you at the very least that such a concern is not a conspiracy theorist concern it is in fact a very very logical concern because they've done it before was working with other governments and their institutions to find out who was behind the killings according to medical sources the majority of the protesters were struck by N. protesters indiscriminately we talked about this two days ago of course it gets dismissed ignored as well that must be shooting but there's something to this when you see these doesn't look good for them even though they're involved they're trying to bring this down so they can start again they don't want us knowing that this is happening because it looks really really bad for their foreign policy everything's crumbling at soon protesters started vandalizing public properties and attempted to enter the Green Zone into the capital Baghdad which houses government offices and foreign diplomatic around them at this point because this is what happens when you lie about everything but the media will not talk about this and we're GONNA get into the hypocrisy in a moment but just think about all the things going on now clearly as I said and you have to remember this in the situation there are people that are genuinely trying to protest government there are people that best and no one's talking about it at least you get like I said the other day they know that we know that they're not talking about this that's why they'll have at the bottom bottom bottom of the page so they can killings now says quote we can't accept the continuation of the situation like this this is Prime Minister Abd Al Adil Abdul Mahdi the one that they're trying to nations and in this this is the place that they don't want them rushing into now officials say there are attempts at sedition from unidentified snipers who shot police they've done before but that doesn't mean that we've seen very clearly mati is going the opposite direction he's calling out Israel he's telling you to leave and we hit of course it's not coincidence that we see this happened right after all of that but there are both parts to this and we cannot forget that every time these days we all or nothing from the Internet oh it's completely fake went had formed a committee to investigate the matter now of course so far at least all these allegations are coming from people within you know some Iraqi officials Iraqi it and see these are things we forget about these are things that they they need you to forget about where we stand up and say that might be Massad or CIA or am I said genuinely trying to fight for anti corruption I mean this is a government that was built from the ground up by the US government so there are people that see that and have that impression based on see he says the immediate aim is to bring down the government under Prime Minister Adel Abdel Mahdi who strove to stay neutral parliament speaker Mohamed Al How busey echoed the premier's remarks saying that infiltrators were indeed wreaking havoc he said the parlor overthrows at this point and as and he said this late Saturday says quote we hear of snipers firebombs burning a policeman a citizen Oh you're fighting you don't care about the people there's always a middle ground in these stories that you just don't get for most people because they have an agenda like most people today do government clearly you can dismiss those if you choose to because well they must be lying about it which is you should be questioning all of this stuff as always but just recognized that there's a lot of role in the conflict between the US Israel Saudi Arabia and Iran and that's the big problem because obviously we see that Iran specifically because true every single done you trust me even though they've lied every part throughout their career and then you get a lot of evidence for people that you're told the trust let's wait and as if their religious beliefs is a problem for Israel Anna problem now for Saudi Arabia in the United States and Iraq who supposed to be sensible ally of the US because the US made he has declared Israel responsible for the destruction of the five warehouses in the Iraqi security forces because they are by the way the the PMU popular mobilization shooting those sniper rifles and a laugh off and say you conspiracy theorists Oh you say oh one about two thousand five and they pretend like they have no because that show they always of course we talked about it we're not hiding it even though it's nowhere to be seen on even the first three scrolls at any stream page there's a reason for that because missile four pointing to this with really nothing on the other side but it gets even better according to Move Alabama always you know on the on the heartbeat of these stories for the most part we're specially foreign policy he goes on to say he opened the crossing at Al crime between Iraq and Syria to the displeasure of the US embassy in Baghdad whose officers expressed their discomfort to the Iraqi officials over the years rarely government is obviously not going toward them so they can't have that we can't allow anybody to be growing in power and having you know it's just ridiculous any other military hardware from Russia which we know they weren't happy about right now we're seeing the continual deterioration of Turkey's Turkish and US even though they're allies and even though their neighbors right point is they cannot allow these people to get more powerful not because they're doing anything wrong but because they don't any power going away from the US government it's our forces and the killing of one commander on the Iraqi Syrian border now by the way none of which they've ever been held account before and all of which are very very clear undeniable crimes but it seems like it blew up in their face to some degree now moon goes on and says the recent decisions of Abdel Mahdi made him extremely unpopular with the US sure in exchange for oil and gave a two hundred eighty four million dollar electricity deal to a German rather than an American company now you can just see how all of these back drove them into the hands of Iran as far as allies go that's it's Emmy you could very clearly marked that as in maybe that was the point who knows whatever happens these things obviously we're going against you know biting the hand that feeds you forcefully in this case now says the Iraqi Prime Minister refused just to abide by US sanctions and is still buying electricity from Iran and allowing the exchange of commerce that is bringing large amounts of foreign currency and boosting the Iranian economy Wayne full of Ronnie and citizens and nothing happened about it that's been proven but we don't ever talk about that now he went on to say he expressed his willingness to buy the S. four hundred had them one forcefully they're supposed to be on their side and they clearly did not take the side can see the point you could make here that many people do is that the illegal US invasion of materializing in other words this is what it looks like when in a sensible ally goes against the US agenda nothing illegal was done yet the US government so by the point he's making there is that the US officials even openly expressed their their their unhappiness with the fact that they opened up this connection between their two puts them at odds all of a sudden they've got chaos and protests and we want democracy again even though didn't we just give them democracy but who knows who cares about that we weren't democracy bad guy and lastly says Abdel Mahdi rejected guess what the deal of the century and that's a big problem for Israel the storm proposed by the United States that basically the empire that controls everything without getting poked in the eye and that comes in the way of economic sanctions or being becoming persona non grata or becoming a terrorist supporter or how yeah oh no how dare let people eat and you know heat themselves at night this is the reality and none of that illegal either but because they did it at that is very clearly irritating for the United States government but that it happened right after the stuff but immediately following the string of actions that diplomacy largely because of that same reason we're going to get into that story in a moment now goes on to say Abdul Mahdi agreed with China to reconstruct essential infrastructure steps are spurning the United States government and of course none of them are wrong none of the none of them are illegal but you know you just you don't get to do that you don't get to step on the toes between Iran and Saudi Arabia and therefore is showing his intention to keep away from the US objectives and policies in the Middle East it's just it's impossible to ignore in this is the same old mantra now the violent protests in Iraq are part of a larger undeclared war against Iran and that has to be clearly you have to see the hypocrisy the double standard all of it these people can't build roads in their countries because evil bad guy that's that's their logic oh they do lots of bad things job says Oh yeah it's great for everybody we're going to move you guys over here and give this old Israel and we all have everything right that's basically what's going to happen when it says he is trying to mediate it clearly feels spurned and it will punish those who do not do what they are told and Moon even ads eight a recent attempt to we want it's secret and they hide him you can't see it but trust me they're evil bad guy they do bad things that's the extent of what we hear today sure they say oh well they blew up that ship and they shot this point because I personally didn't see much substance to the story about the assassination attempt it could just it seemed like allegations but he seems to think it's connected now Iraqi security officials have made it very clear that their forces would not use lethal force against protesters lesser lives were a danger now sure anybody could say that we've heard the same life is there are unconfirmed reports that some foreign diplomatic missions are trying to keep the flames of the unrest alive by sending mercenaries into the ranks of protesters to cause from US forces and French forces and Saudi forces and Israeli forces but you know what they said and it's worth noting that they said it and it certainly possible that is true welcome to the daily rob a concise show dedicated to bring you the most relevant independent news as we see from the last twenty four hours Hill Major General Qassim Salman the leader of Iran's cuts forces is part of it as well now he didn't follow that up with any information but that's his opinion but I found that an interest down all they did they did they did they it's possible but has it been proven knowing it hasn't yet what has been proven when the US government shutdown a passenger more violence and one of the sound like exactly what's happened every other time in Iran and Syria administrative with all the ways they've tried to create violence yeah this is all the things they've tried to do and gotten caught doing and then just pretended like it didn't happen this is the same thing now Lebanese newspaper Akbar reported Saturday within the protest and blame it on the other side but now people are getting hip to this and then catching them when they throw them altaf cocktail over they take other people's trucks and run over protesters and time blame it on was very clearly somebody who's tied to this whole thing and the moment they removed from their release a warning and then a week later boom it all happens just like he was supposed to be involved in and at the says quote he again a week ago after a prominent general was removed from his post now think about the timing of this a week ago so we could go off now there was no immediate official reaction to those claims and of course they could just be taking the claim that was given by somebody else and pretending that is true but Wab I'll Saad is a US trained officer now that's the general we're talking about the general that was removed from his post which seemingly kicked this off outlet but this according to Lebanese paper that this is referencing most taking part in the reason protest Iraq where peacefully shouting their demands while okay awesome Iraq don't go there and exactly a week later chaos in Iraq erupts you cannot ignore these these these correlations these these operation apparently as far as as far as Iraq thought they remove him because they worried he was gonna do something and start a protest that was going cause chaos and then they release a note saying where this happened was the same time they released the threat assessment for Iraq so just win Iraq's government removes general that they were going to use to carry out this which is just as legitimate as anonymous says or intelligence sources say we should equally doubt all of them and I do just as much as I laugh off anonymous sources say when it comes from now they added that the US plot to ferment chaos in Iraq was disclosed to the intelligence bodies three months ago which is the person I was it doesn't prove it but the evidence is overwhelming exactly the timely the timing is what is what stands out to me the most did his general back as Moon Obama said in his very first sentence of the article it says the current unrest in Iraq the other one comes from the bad guy side but the reality is that what they're saying is much more in Lincoln in sync with what has happened before what this government has routinely done throughout history the moment ago that was talking about that they noted that Washington and its allies were due to organize protest rallies under a cover of popular demand and lead it toward unrest and then introducing guess what popular military commander to lead the so-called salvation government so that the US can strengthen it's a Gemini over a number of others misses the other aspect you know the the group of snipers or the people that are involved apparently others stormed in after Wall Street Journal or Washington Post I laugh it off when it comes from an Lebanese paper or occupational but the point is that we need to give them equal equal skepticism that doesn't happen today with sabotage attacks in suspicious plans to turn the scene into violence and chaos according to Lebanese paper citing people that sources and people do this all on the ground you know and on and on and on but it's up to you to decide now according to the Lebanese paper and this is this is the Fars this is just as clear as day it clearly seems to be the case that the US Saudi puppet general was removed when they found out what the plot was and see me. I have no reason to believe that and if you're willing to take other news reports at face value I don't know why you would ignore that one of course we know why you would because one is bolstered by the claims of officials of the US government to be the head of an imminent overthrow of the government which is why they removed him so it clearly I mean at least to me I mean to me is removed as the commander of the Counter Terrorism Service the CPS CPS is a force that often cooperates with guess who the US military now odd he was a US trained officer Weird Weird I guess we'll just continue to ignore all of these very clear ties what I'm talking about and says he was suspected they went ahead with the plan anyway that he was supposed to lead apparently sort of how they bungled the effort Venezuela if you remember when bulletin Pompeii were tricked by Bennie Elena thirties or the officials who are pretending that they wanted to flip side you remember and when they failed to do so the US coverage Bush at anyway and we're wild told them warned of a hot summer to change everything in Iraq to in fact damage Iran's reputation in the Arab nation adding that they spent the summer for preparations it failed horribly now in Iraqi security source told Alec Bar that the Americans had in mid summer of two thousand Nineteen Warrant and implemented their plots in a hot full resolutely saying that they told him hey we're we're going to do this we're going to get rid of this ron presence maybe thinking that's what they were going to be on board with clearly they weren't we added that Iraqi Prime Minister Mahdi implemented a counter plan to foil the Americans plot which includes controlling we embarrassed by what happened as quite oh and six of his thugs kind of ran around town pretending they were leading a revolution and it just didn't happen it was it was pretty bad the security and military bodies controlling the situation in eighteen Iraqi provinces state plans and initiatives which I guess they felt could calm Colin meet their demands and encourage support peaceful protests within the framework of the law they said clearly based on everything that we can see it seems to get this is my take on it but I think it's pretty hard to ignore the information here on Sunday yesterday the Iraqi government announced a series of reforms after an extraordinary session overnight in response to the sweeping unrest but probably won't do very much because they've done this many times before promised all kinds of reform of US efforts to weaken the resistance axis which is the key pillar of rising opposition to American Israeli plans in the Middle East that ultimately didn't come now the governor of the province of Baghdad also stepped down the members of that council accepted his resignation so things are moving here it's hard so a lot of people I I mean I I would like to believe most can see the fingerprints on all this the obvious ties and it's also important to forget pretty obvious that this was taken from their control to some degree and they stood that seems to be just still ripped pop the protests were let loose anyway as much as they make it about Iran's government right it's quite clear that this is about more than just Iran the government because see we're going to end up but it's clear that there's some traction with this thing now political analysts Hussein she cola slum said Saturday the unrest is a product this article outlines just that why all Israelis should support the protests why because they sell you the idea this is organic reporters that he wanted to see quote the fall of corruption not the fall of the government interesting difference there and that's against the thing that they anything Shiite which makes this a religious war and the opposite of what trump just pretended to fight for religious freedom I guess unless you're a Shiite the Israeli government role in this they see Iran and Shiites in general as the problem as I recently just did it hit you about I mean understand and a natural response to the eagles run a really and how they must stop Iran from gaining influence why is that well because Iran they'd never like you to differentiate between when they're saying death to Israel or death to America they're saying the government and they've made that abundantly clear they just need you to think they hate you one the the smoke dissipated it was pretty clear that it was just him and a couple of his friends they were acting like they had control everything just in hopes that people would revolt in join them ultimately do that really means anything saint just like with the last Iranian thing that we just like I said alternately amounted to nothing mounted to trust me here's an object the injured people but of course if it's doing it then that's just a half hearted comment now says quote we know who is behind letting some saboteurs infiltrate the demonstrations the United Nations and it just gets ignored even last time with Iran they wouldn't even allow Iran inside the United Nations to present their evidence why because they would have proved that they were lying he's also took it upon himself to dissect the tweets and the data and seve he felt that it was organic I'm sure you won't be shocked to find out what he did bad guy of course haven't you been paying attention and fully all our yard the BPM you head and Iraq's national security adviser told this but I'd cautioned against talking heads emphasizing that this is a leaderless uprising and citing social media source of inspiration basically the western media narrates why they refused to let him in so maybe just maybe they will have some evidence they'll produce for us and we'll get to know so we'll have to wait and see now a professor of Middle East that these are set up in Iraq and to add some firsthand insight on this I want to include what ever Bartlett added to this story research and he ends the emphasis so to sum it up there is almost certainly an influence campaign on twitter to generate support for an Iraqi revolution almost and this is what I find interesting he said we have footage and intelligence that we will present when the time is appropriate and understand that the US has had stuff like this before too and then they never I understand that this is not a guy coming at this real political stance he made it clear in the beginning is like

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Tiny House Repairs and Creative Conversions with the Capable Carpenter  #093

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Tiny House Repairs and Creative Conversions with the Capable Carpenter #093

"You know I never did a a five year apprenticeship with master craftsman I learned by screwing things up over and over again. Yeah when I wanNA build something and I want people to take it on themselves I I want them to actually be able to welcome to the tiny house lifestyle. podcast the show where you learn how to plan build and live the tiny lifestyle. I'm I'm your host Ethan Walden and this is episode ninety two with Chris. Strathspey Chris Strappy Aka the capable carpenter just jumped into tiny house building a couple of years ago but he has jumped in head first and since starting has completed a tiny house on wheels a a horse trailer conversion even done repairs on existing tiny houses that had damage and he's just an all round talented and kind of scrappy carpenter carpenter he works with reused and salvage materials and has a really cool mobile workshop. That is actually built from a converted camper trailer trailer. It's a wide ranging interview and Chris's a great guest so I hope you stick around for our conversation but I I'd like to tell you about the sponsor for today's episode tiny house decisions tiny house. Decisions is the Super Helpful helpful. Guide book that I wrote five years ago to share all of the knowledge and decisions that I made to build my own tiny house along with what I did right. What what I did wrong and how I would change things? The guidebook is now in its second edition. It's been completely rewritten and expanded to reflect. How tiny houses are being built today and it also includes several new tiny house stories from other tiny house twelve hours? The guidebook has been expanded to include things like sips and metal framing naming and all the different kinds of installations that are being used in tiny houses. And I seriously think this is the most helpful thing you can buy if you are thinking about living in a tiny tiny house if you go through the guidebook from start to finish you will have a solid plan for all the systems and everything. That's going to go into your tiny house. The second edition in has been a long time in the making and I'm really excited to share it with the world to learn more. You can head. Over to the tiny house. Dot Net slash t hd again. That's the tiny house dot net slash t hd all right. I am here with Chris Strategy. Chris has construction experience ranging from marine construction. To Century. Free Old remodels over the past years. He's focused on minimal tiny alternative living. His recent work includes horse and Van Conversions. A new tiny house on on wheels a few minimal cabins and tiny house remodels. Chris is excited to be working on some pool. Conversions like an old book Mobile School Bus Shipping Container and barn and we'll be featuring it all on his newly launch YouTube channel Christophe. Welcome back to the show. Hey what's going on brother not too much. It's great to have you we. Actually we've done this interview once before but there were some tech issues and I feel like when we connected last time you had you just finished. Your first is tiny houses on wheels. And now I feel like you have an entire portfolio of of cool tiny project. So what happened our. That's kind of been the plan or at least the dream you know. It's the tiny houses on wheels thing as much as I love it I just think there's there's so many different ways. It's such a personal decision when somebody goes minimal or tiny or kinda changes into this lifestyle and that's just really my passion and just reusing is a big thing with me Creative side of things. I've always looked at things that were there. And thought OUGHTA alternative uses for them. So it's just gone a rope just living the dream as far as if you know if somebody has something and they want to think outside the box that just fires me. Yep that's I've been really blessed to get these awesome job awesome and I remember when when we spoke last. What was the name of your tiny house? The first one that you built. It's okay to play. It's okay if I like all kinds of really unique storage Bilton hidden storage. Did you end up finding a buyer for that one. I did yeah Janney bought it. It is now named the rolling rosy and genuine. I met At a shower I the second show I brought. It's okay to play too and we spoke for months about accustomed. Bill went went through the hurdles of tiny house on wheel financing which is a big struggle out there actually almost got caught into scheme along along that journey and when it came down to Ritchie committed in she sold her condo and she has equity in it and it was so cool the watcher move referred in during that I just plan to bring my tiny house to the LACI had so that she can live in it. R- are we move forward in any way we weren't really sure we were just GonNa both faithful that. That's what was going to happen and as that happened it Kinda just worked out that the financing thing was a struggle you know I wasn't an RBI builder and that was my first tiny house. was built well and did have a another another inspection process but you know it just worked out exactly how it was supposed to. She loves it I think she's living her adrain. She's made it her off. got a chance to work on it a few times. Change some things around turn some storage at I had planned for kids and storage for her pit bull named Bo and Some other things so it was an honor and really just couldn't have worked out better the the process of going through that with her nice. I'm curious if you care to elaborate. What what was the scheme So I think without getting in a technical terms I guess it was Maybe possibly as something that was going to happen in the planners of that when they realized I couldn't happen just GonNa be came. We're looking to take money from builders end people people's deposits really They were taking deposits for tiny house builds and loans that they never had any intention of funding. So we yeah we were really Yeah just Kinda work though. How are they no longer in business? I don't WanNa say it was obvious that expose them because that wasn't the case we were almost sold on it right but it was I think a lot of people at this time. It kinda exposed this was you know maybe eight months ago just kind. Donna came out that it was really not a you know something that they were just like. I said I don't know lawsuit laws. We kind of we didn't get involved. Thank goodness but that leads us to. She had a chunk of money. I sold her my tiny house. What I thought was a great bryce? It was about half what she was gonNA spend and it was just it was in a you know that was my tiny house was Kinda my coming out party with this whole you know use that term before you know just just How I build and my passion for for this whole lifestyle? But I'm not about building custom homes and then selling or building the mass specs because I was a real struggle. I didn't know who it was for. You know it was really just about thinking outside. The box Everyone opportunity to do that but yeah it was just that it was something to add to the portfolio of ways the go minimal and finding and be creative about it. Yeah that's got to be tough to to build a house that you don't know who it's for it's like you've got no no person in mind you don't really know what features the needs and all that. Yeah I I think it's almost Say Easy something that I just could when you're talking talking about hundreds of if even one hundred square feet if you're not personalizing that to somebody or somebody's Family I. I just think you're being half as efficient as you could be. You know you're not. Yeah I guess that's without judging. People that are round people are buying nine rebuilt homes and to their dreams in it. Yeah that's just not me so I'm really curious. Actually I think it's it's amazing now. The tiny houses have been around long enough. That now there are tiny house remodels. So maybe you could tell me about about a couple of the remodels that you've done and like what what changed. What did you change them? Sure so the a couple of tiny houses on wheels remodels really just kinda helping Saddam. Buddy see a space. Yes that was designed for somebody else in how they could change it themselves. I wasn't really going to learn gutten. Whereabout Arpan them work through what they had had One was aloft designed for a couple and then a single woman with a dog. That couldn't do a ladder well. moved in so it. Was this kind of working through that Going up and down the road up a house so you know. I've helped out with some resealing window. Ceiling Roof Trim A lot of roofs are trimmed out correctly. It looked great. But when you're going in you know fifty sixty mile an hour Direction constantly you know as you know the things that can be overlooked Adopt a couple of houses kind of get back where they were You know safe to go down the road and not gonNA get damaged anymore than they were just from. Being the age they were was able to do a tiny house else on our foundation remodel. Recently that was a desert shack on that was an absolute blast a couple of rogue good friends of mine that are craftsman came with me and we spent about eight days hundred hours straight just went out to the desert and pretty much finished off a shack that was Framing and old hardie board and rolled roofing that had blown off. Yes that was a really. Is this deeks Jagger now. This was our somebody. I met At a workshop I had with him but now this was her retirement place and goes out every few months and I think they had some people do some work. It's it's real hard to find people to do anything out there. Especially anything research standard so this was sixteen by twenty five building unframed with two by Sixes and then at sheet hardie board right on that so it needed a little bit of structural work but now we just gay men finished it to Shoghi Jogi Bond. A bunch of Cedar didn't expose beam ceiling really pretty Exposed Cedar Interior. Some board and bat luck dekel away around some sun shades. There was water tank started running some plumbing and electric think they plan on coming back in and Kinda finish off that how they want you know so certainly didn't get it to the point where it's a you know ready to be lived in. That wasn't the intention anyway. Was Do as much as we could in the time allotted and the bank we. We hit a home run like I said I had some really good friends of mine with me. D.C was actually came out for the weekend again. Sean Buddy on that grew up with the real brass men in a gym. Another friend of ours has a lot of experience in the house. World Nice in. Aj a friend of mine. Jay came out. She lives in a tiny house and also pressman arpan herself so it was a blast. It was a brought to work but it was a blast the nice. I'm curious if based off of the remodels and the kind of repair work that you've dead if it would change you know if you were to build another tiny house on wheels would that would anything change based on what you've seen from the wear and tear of of the road or anything like that yes or I haven't. I've told a few people this but the first tiny house ever stepped foot in was the one I built. I never been inside one. I had I certainly don't suggest that it'll probably Hubris but I just saw things a different way having said that I would do things completely different not completely different but I would do a lot of things. Different way distribution Materials as far as building a tiny house on wheels to me just because it's on wheels. They're still a huge array of uses. When I built was designed to be moved twice a year I I thought you know beach six months mountain six months in North Carolina? That was since I didn't have a customer or somebody in mind when designing that's what I envisioned was was a a classy. You know like a Say classy a luxury vacation home. Tiny vacation for somebody that if they had a full-sized this is drop or somebody to haul it. They could move it twice a year and that's without house was about It was heavy. You know it was still had plenty of time late but it had a deck built on the pressure treated deck that folded down built on the back though. If you're going to haul it with that up it added weight on the back. If the house is loaded down to be lived in like it is now it's overweight House was it meant to you. Know have a full pantry in law's in a You know it was a decorative really nice showpiece but I would think about everything differently. I guess is the answer of your question when I built that house. I was real worried about not so much liability but I did need to sell it. DOC was thinking that a new trailer was the way to go at the time and I think that's something that I have nothing against the new trailer I would have used. I used different trailer built differently. Trailer I used the conference trailer. Absolutely awesome you drove a dump truck on it. But I adil tying onto that and kind of mending ause law not to use the different trailer And that would also depend on what the specific cows You know who's going to be using it. What they're going to use it for where they're gonNA be hauling? Yeah what were some of the specific. Wear the entire things that you saw from houses getting moved a lot that like needed to get repaired corners inside corners on a three houses that I saw that had a lot of miles on Plywood in Warren had a lot of sheet rock in Surprisingly at least it was to me. I just I worried about our as far as their triangulation. I don't know I didn't research how they were built but to me. They all moved laterally more than I would like knowing knowing that it was a house going down. I don't know if that's normal. I don't know if that's A. That's from age. A user error you know people are for real on with them But that's just something that I would hope to not see anything. I bill of for somebody that at least you know unless that was understanding that it was a delicate get house That was something that I noticed Houses I built. Well I mean there were sealed coldwell. They they are very intentional about the tongue. Side of the House being sealed up protected one one day have a window that was on the tongue side that had just a piece of plywood they put over going down the road actually the door on. It's okay to play. is over the tongue. I just made shutters that it was a half glass door had shutters that covered it. I don't have any horror stories. I don't like to pick people's work like to encourage people to use my mistake. It can share their own. But I didn't see any horror stories with the houses that I was honored to work on Nice. Oh your your name. Your Business Name is capable carpenter and you know your your feed and senior. Youtube channel is just filled with so many cool projects that you've worked on recently. It looks like you designed a simple people kind of bedside table or desk for a tiny house. Yeah I did. Actually that is in the It's okay the play is pretty much the same table. Okay but I've used that in a few different applications and I did a little. Diy for Tiny House magazine being last month and I was asked to do another one thought that that was something that people could actually use. It can be made big enough to be a cot not in a Abbas in our big enough to be a four person. Table are small enough to be a little bedside table. I painted I put it in my shop as you know Those listening may not know but my workshop is an old ragged out camper but I put the the one that just built in there for my son. I have three sons but my middle son really loves to hang out with me especially when I'm working when I can take him with me so that's his drafting table you know. It's not in the way when he's not in their composite down Gallo Shelf on their first or pencils and whatnot to hang out. So it's one of those applications nations were. I think it's it's such an easy bill. People can actually build it and it's something that people can eat excited about that. Nice yeah I I see in your work that you really focus on on like the end user which is great that you're not you're not obsessing over like aesthetics. Looks really cool too. But it's also like it's all about like is this easy to use and belt which is is another scale like you know good builders can do amazing things but then also say like. Here's a here's something that I can. I came up with that. You can build easily. Yeah absolutely absolutely. I think it's simple and effective is a a passion of mine but also You know I'm a frame by trade I'm not You know I never did a five year apprenticeship with master craftsmen I learned by screwing things up over and over again. I've worked with some really awesome guys but they let me do my thing thing. Maybe that that was the way they learned brought a so. Yeah when I want to build something I want people to to take it on on themselves. I want them to actually be able to build it. You know actually be able to build the function like it's supposed to and so I don't think the join greenery side of things it's to be over thought and a lot of cases. Yeah so actually wanted to ask you more about your your mobile workshop The doghouse rate. Your Surya I've had the chance to see it in person is just I mean it's just cool like it's this black old camper and then you go inside and it's like a workshop. That's exactly what it is. Yeah had you seen a camper converted in that way before. Like how'd you come up with the idea and also like if you don't mind sharing like what. What was the cost for the project Jack? Sure no absolutely I just put it out on my channel. Actually what what it looks like up to date. It's been constantly evolving Over the two years that just celebrated its two year now in dog year anniversary with me. The nineteen eighty five twenty three foot jake. OJ series camper a tandem axle. In kind of the story behind. It is out four years ago. I got healthy. I've been a carpenter my whole life but I was Struggling and also really really is able to work. Physical sick won't go along why that happened but getting back on my feet kind of started back from nothing but I was blessed raw. got to a point where building a business. It came time to have a trailer like. Oh that's where I was at my business and was looking around at crawlers and the prices and yet just didn't make sense to me. I don't cars wasn't looking to spend five six grand on something. The trailer sizes. It makes sense to me. I was really hoping to have something where I could work inside. So just the whole reuse news. Ray I think that just You know click to me so I started looking right away down a few options. This won a brought for a thousand dollars at did not have a title it was still built out somewhat stock. They had done some home repairs to Aerostat here and there that they had attempted effect. But I just got it Kinda us some things that I had used them things that were on sale now Lows had the half inch. Pallet would Dog eared fence pickets on sales. I got a bunch of those I had about metal metal. Just Kinda went over got an open show and had fun with it the cut the backout. Open it up so you could kind of get out load lumber and the only thing I left original the only thing that's left original at this point. Is The table able in chairs. And that had some triangulation to the reason I left it but also cool folds down as a bed and You know I still have my lunch and Mike Office on wheels. But yes so it was part necessity in just like my tiny house are coming out. Party resented Ed. I got to a point. Were being a carpenter. I resented the Commercial Sada building and the race than just kind of a lot and just wasn't happy with what I was doing. I loved what I did just the way I was kind of day to day on that side of things so this was just a way to you know. Be True to me. You know just Alcohol you know just the page for you know forty to rattle oh cans a black spray paint. You know simple effective Bahn. You know. There's just there's aren't from my friends. There's a in old. Although old John Deere Steering Wheel it looks like a submarine hatch on the ceiling and and it's effective. I mean it's I can work out of it. I can rip a full sheet of plywood out of it. I can cut trim in it at every tool I need in it so yeah. It's just so much fun. What did the what did the overall build cost? So I think by the time I got four new tires. It didn't have a tight also had to get a two hundred dollar. Deputy Bond just to make sure that if it were ever reprove stolen real easy to get titled in North Carolina. The title says two thousand eighteen home built trailer and I think with everything you know not including my time initial three days. It took to get the thing a shell where it was legal and going down the road. But I'd say I had to under twenty five hundred bucks when the thing was legal going down the road and a mean Blaine Carpentry Wood. Cutting machine you know that's awesome. Yeah it's I think I figured around twelve thousand miles I put on it so for our. Yeah I was GonNa ask you about that. 'cause you've you've loved that thing up to Vermont twice now yeah Rice. Yeah it's been up to Vermont twice in Tennessee. I didn't take it to Alabama but it has been up and down the east coast got plans to go to Florida soon and it Burns up North Carolina Road Beach Mountains. It's Brian me. As much as it makes sense to because haul it when I don't need to but when you have everything you need if it saves me one trip a day Just makes sense to have also just. It's like having shelter sheltered space to work and all your tools like it's just nice to not have to like have a mobile version of what you do when you're like I really need my like three eighths inch Chisel but that's at the home tool kit like twenty miles away but you're like it's there you've got it all it really is a dream come true. It's like the team. I don't WanNa say the eighteen but it's you know it really is You know I don't keep every single tool in the world in there you know. We don't keep tile tools in there in masonry tools unless. I know I'm going to be doing that but really gone. was you know if there's enough of a path and you know I've got four wheel drive is to get in there and build wherever you want. I just off grid yeah you know And also being efficient I can get it. I could make a cup of coffee blow a tire. I fire up generator. I make a cup of coffee I get you know I think about how great for him to be in the situation. I am and I go changed my tire and I go to work you know. I don't really have any big deal because everything is right there. Yeah it's just you know just make sense It made sense to me. It's so much fun to give tours at building supplies guys that chuck around it. You know no offence to people with two hundred thousand dollars worth of fancy a you know equipment New Orleans. It's just people WANNA chuck around it and I give them a tour and he just can't help but love it because it just makes sense you know where everything is in a outfits. He's got a lot of personality and I'll definitely link to the to the Youtube tour off of the show notes page for the episode. People should should definitely check it out. I like it extends the kind of tiny mobile structure beyond just living but also kind of shows does that. This is a concept that can also work for for work. You know you could build out a little mobile workshop for you know if you do something that involves needing a workshop space that that's these. These campers are just really available and cheap. And you know doesn't matter how bad the upholstery is. If if you're planning on just getting it out and turning it into a workshop space no yeah a lot of especially the eighties nineties models. The trailers are heavy duty for the most part really simple to work on. You know if if they haven't gotten a lot of modem and in a row the roof announce instructors in decent shape Meta guy in Alabama. That has a hippie camper. He's got a little vegan built out of a little camper seen a few businesses and coastal North Carolina. That have just a variety of you know mobile workshop. Though it's cool. Yeah it's certainly not the first to come up with the idea but this one just made sense. No it's it's super cool. See you've also built You built one of my favorite little micro house designs which I swear. I'm going to build one day when I have a plot spot to put it. which is the deeks transforming a frame? I love that thing. Yeah another one soon. Yeah not a year ago. Actually I built it our. I loved it when I saw the design. And you know it's been just about viral. It's got So many different takes on it and Summer camp last year we were just talking about ideas off each other. It was Kinda hitting around around. You know what my take would be on one so he snuck me a set of plans and I had my oldest son with me. I don't get to see all that often so I really wanted to make it a point of builds up with with them up. My Buddy Alexy's was in town for the holidays so I had some labor. We just had fun with it. Yeah we kinda pounded the first few you days out the structure and kind of let it sit and really wanted to use what had laying around kind of went through a bunch of salvage did a little different on one of the walls with windows and it book page floors which is something neat I thought was need. GotTa take on Brown paper bag floors. Yeah those those are so cool. So what's what's the process will actually. Maybe you should explain what book page floors Dr Sure. So it's a you could take any brown paper bag. Anything fibrous pretty much Ako pershing it or binding into the wood fibers on the sub floor on. Then you polyurethane over A. You're just if you know a Dago. Progess it is or you have any craft experience. It's pretty much all you're doing a using a water based a a a poly acrylic a poly. You know getting whatever it is. You're using Zhang whether it's Brown paper bags or book pages. I thought that was fun. I've seen the Brown paper bags. I'm sure I've seen people do aren't with Set the plans and you know both clans and things like that maps. But I'd never seen a done on the floor and I want to give it a shot. So I got a few dictionaries There were all French English dictionaries and got all three of them for twenty five cents at a yard sale. Yeah and I could probably do three more a framed with I still have the pages but just kind of pop some rides late about intentionally at funded. Like a little Rosette in the middle of the floor and and they've held up. Well I mean it was twenty five cents actually the acrylic polly. I got at another yard sale and I think I paid fifty cents for that. It was a half gallon that tappers rusty but it look sealed up and wasn't a clump knows like fifty cents. What's fine so yeah just went right over the sub floor look good? Just the idea was how fun with it. Though is the deck. That's part of the same flooring system or is that like a standalone separate little deck change that are built on skids so the frame itself I think is eight by ten by plans And I put it on fourteen Skids so I built a deck ZAC. the deck and the frame are one piece. I just I where the frame is an inch and a half so that water wasn't running back in there. There's a little step down down but not part of the plan. A lot of people adekunle around and I just wanted one east. Yeah makes it easy to move. Yeah so do you. Do you still have this one or is this one also found a forever home. Yeah I hope so. There's really awesome program and won a group group of men and women in Huntsville. Alabama to retreat center called Lee acres. And I did some work down there on a farmhouse and they bought a little tiny house. I did some remodeling to it. A Horse trailer conversion for Just kind of help them get their foot in the door and kind of get together but they brought master that depicted at North Carolina workshop. And they brought my frame so I a couple of months ago help load those up. We sent him down to Huntsville on a tractor trailer. Lobos though Nice. Yeah the the horse trailer super cool to you you. Oh thanks man appreciate it and I was blessed that was. I had no intention of doing it by did like a week trip down there and it was really just. I was trying to do everything I could to help them. Had Lots of different people working on the place before we met and They were just trying to struggling to get it where the place could be operational racial. And that's what I was kind of their to do but plans changed when I got there. Some other people were working in the house and of course you know there were paying Mesa. WanNa keep myself busy and they had bought the trailer and there were plans to have me work on it Their power stairs are just kind of took a day to bus depart ballots and have fun with it and get it where. It's just the existing Jack Room on the horse trailer. A really didn't convert the Rois trailer. I think their plans are still to convert the back. the two double bay but in a Smile Double Bay horse trailer. They're still Karatha area down front with but I just took the tack room and kind of Gut it. It did the whole power. Pain put some lighting in their fix that a little slower spot. That was soft so it could be a rental. Now it's a you know a queen size bed up in a tack room loft than a a little spot to have your coffee and hang your clothes so that was fun. I was a blast actually. So is the tack room kind of like. Was that already Mike insulated a little bit yet. This one wasn't So the it's like a real heavy gauge metal on the top of this one. The Nicer Horse trailers you get now the tack rooms or you know amazing luxury apartment. Yeah so this was about getting it. the by understanding of the stage if they were at Israeli just kind of get it. They're going to have lots of options as far as Reynolds and a retreat center road. Our look at it as granting right now um you know the amenity or the infrastructure isn't there but they also want to place besides stor multi-room farmhouse a place that You know people. Can you know lay their head down at night for weekend workshops in what so that it was really the point was to provide another is air conditioning unit in their. I think their plan was to change it to the you know. He A C. Electric Geena DOT treasonable to say that that's a cool little spot the spend the night on a weekend installation or not. Yeah well one thing that I like like to ask all my guests as water two or three resources. That have helped you in your tiny house building that you'd like to share with our listeners. Six Not to not to Ham Yup but your resources You know all your resources Where big to me because they were free end because it were there was actually substance in them? Thank you so so I was quick to use your stuff. I do a lot of homework like I said. My first outside ever stepped foot inside was the one I built all right after that in learning as much as I did just from the people I met in community that I was all of a sudden part of tiny house people group on facebook gets policed in the right. Hey where it's really a positive group. It's really all about people sharing their experience other mistakes You know their successes. So I've it's been really fun to watch that way. You know before all this. I wasn't really that connected tech Kind of flip phone kind of guy. you know I think the third just in general would be the community you know. I just love tiny out people i. I don't know if that's the right term for him but you know the first festival I went to and Pink L. North Carolina Tons of these people Abra stayed in my life tons of these people. Become my heroes tons of these people have become real life inspiration for me so you know. The the resource itself has been the community. The Community of people that are wanting to China. Make the change or you know encourage others others to live this minimal. You know what the world looks says you know out of this little quirky. That community has been the biggest. That's awesome awesome. That's a great as awesome we are we are a cool bunch of people we really are. Yeah I can't hear part of Dan and that Jimmy that Jam mind-blowing yeah just dumb redneck like may like I said. I can't get rid of us. I have no plans to like. I said it's a really is such a cruel group of people and if people doubt that a challenge you to enter that community not just come to an event. Yeah you enter that community and then get back to yeah well. What's what's the goal goal? What's like overall theme for Youtube Channel? Are you doing like how are you just Kinda showing off projects that you're working on. How how what's the youtube thing about so it's really just about having fun? The idea I have enough I think alternative creative work coming up That most of it will be my work. Abby honest it's just Too Time consuming for me to do lots of how to just because I'm so bad at that like I don't work that way I can build and it's a lot of work raw and I don't I don't draw things before I build them in most cases you know if I have to I will but it hurts. You know and I don't really WanNa do that so there's GonNa be redneck ARY You know like I said ars real sick. I make it a point to just have as much as I can. You know really grateful to be where I am but that'll be somehow twos doing an axe throwing brock video. That's that's actually the next video to come out love throwing axes a glitter cannon with a backpack blower. That's a lot of fun Slingshot you sling some old. The pumpkins in the field finds just from things. Like that. Made Hovercraft at a plywood and some stolen spital parts trial by really starting. Yeah they throw them out There's this cool little thing now. Are they hook up. The patients that they hook this little vacuums inflates. It makes them really easy to move from one Gurney to a next and how my beautiful rifat our third child and I saw on and I said what are you guys do with that and I said we throw it out as a no. Oh so I took that we made a redneck hovercraft dot. That were two beautifully. Actually I hope nobody gets hurt. You will see a video me having fun with things like that Some tourists you now. I get a lot of inspiration But there's lots of tour channels out there in Rodham Friends of mine and that's not really not that I would be competition others. But that's their thing. And that's their gifting. So you gotta be hopefully when I get in the groove one or two videos a week of you know my work somehow tunes in there a lot of folding furniture ideas but just there's hopefully some fun having to do with tiny living. Yeah cool well I will link to all this stuff off the show notes page Chris Strap the great catching up with you. Thanks for being on the show. Thanks for having me appreciate it. You can find the show notes including links to Chris's Youtube Channel and website along with photos of some of my favorite projects that Chris's worked on at the tiny house dot net slash zero nine. Three three again. That's the tiny house dot net slash zero nine three.

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Black Agenda Radio - 03.04.19

Black Agenda Radio

56:34 min | 2 years ago

Black Agenda Radio - 03.04.19

"This is black agenda radio a weekly hour of African American political thought and action. The radio magazine that brings you news commentary and analysis from a black left perspective. I'm Glenn Ford along with my co-host Nellie Bailey coming up both Republicans and Democrats in the US claim it's all right to threaten Venezuela with invasion because it's not a democracy. But we'll talk with the veteran. Black activist who was an official observer of democracy in action in Venezuela and a call for the abolition of poverty by getting rid of the class. That is hoarding all the wealth. But first Angela Davis, the human rights activist was initially disinvited from an event of the civil rights institute in Birmingham, Alabama Davis's hometown. Apparently because of her support for Palestine. In Ian, writes the month before CNN fired Marc Lamont hill for supporting Palestinians in his speech at the United Nations. We spoke with Michael Fischbach, a professor of history at Randolph Macon college and author of a new book, titled black power and Palestine Fischbach says black American empathy with Palestinians and Arabs is nothing. New. I found from my research that recent examples of black support for the Palestinians. In fact, restaurant some pretty solid basic back in number of decades. I focused basically on the nineteen sixties and seventies in my book. But one could even look at examples back into the late nineteen forties, particularly in the nation of Islam of people who Merican have African descent who saw in the Palestinians, not just allies. But really? Fellow peoples of color that were struggling much as they were and most famously in the sixties that kind of worldview was articulated first by people like Malcolm X later, by groups like snick, the student nonviolent coordinating committee men groups like the Black Panthers who saw themselves saw like Americans really many of them exp- explained it as as as a colony as colony within the United States that was waging a struggle for liberation much as the Palestinians and other people in the so-called third world, we're doing and therefore they saw their struggle as not just in tied up with the Palestinians. But someone so far as say if the Palestinians can't be free. Neither can we so fast forward to today when you get for exa-. Sample in Ferguson, Missouri during the disturbances their when not just Ferguson, but other places you had Palestinians in the West Bank tweeting to protesters in places like Ferguson, saying, you know, here's how we deal with security forces firing tear-gas at us here in the West Bank because we deal with these rarely security forces all the time when young man sent tweet with a picture of himself holding a sign saying, we Palestinians know, what it's like to be shot dead because of your ethnicity and that was an exchange Palestinian students. Visit Ferguson for students and others, including Patricia colors and others from dream defenders from black lives matter went to the West Bank. So when you see these kinds, of example of solidarity of people saying look where people of color were fighting to be free. We're being targeted because of our ethnicity. My book explores how those? Kind of sentiments really are anchored on a deep history that goes back five decades. And in fact, since Ferguson Israel has become even more restrictive on folks coming into the country. It does background checks, and if they seem politically hostile to the Zionist project, they don't get in. Yes. In recent years, people from all backgrounds, including American Jews have been denied entry at the same time. Of course that Israel like many countries in Europe. And the United States is also seen a lot of public vitriol against immigrants legal and otherwise who've been trying to come in. There's a lot of discussion going on in Israel about air tree in south Sudanese, other African migrants who have entered Israel seeking asylum seeking works. He can. Safety. So it's not necessarily a coincidence that at the same time that's going on. And at the same time that they're literally is a wall. People talk about the president Donald Trump's thing. Build a wall and Israel has Bill wall between it in the West Bank. Not surprising that at the same time, you see that siege mentality extending to people trying to come in to Israel in the West Bank who are activists and being turned with border. Should be said that even before the rise of the nation of Islam. There were Morrish societies in black America all over the place, and that until very recently pay majority of Muslims in the United States were black Americans. Yes, American black identification with Arabs in the Middle East. As you rightly pointed out goes back quite a long time. We have for example, slave memoirs were written in Arabic. So the connection between Americans of color. Notably black Americans and the Middle East and Arabs and Muslims. Doesn't need go way. Back you correctly pointed out, the Moore's temple science, the nation of Islam people who said that, you know, we are by blood related to the air ABS the nation of Islam use the term Asia Asia. Attic, we related to those people and Malcolm X once noted that after visiting the Middle East. He said, you know, it's fair to say that ninety nine percent of Arabs would be Jim crow if they came here to the United States that you know, we look the same. We're part of the same people. And I think the religious connection as well as the general among Americans who are Muslim whether the nation of Islam, or what say more conventional Islam as well as this ideological connection immersion, the sixties of of a common struggle definitely bound those two areas together in a sense of transnational identity. And of course in the nineteen sixties. There was a resurgence of internationalism in black America, which was viewed with debate Zayed's among many Zionists circles in the United States. Yes. One of the of course, most famous at the time until about the nineteen sixty seven war in the Middle East examples of that were win snick came out against the war in Vietnam in nineteen sixty six fairly early in nineteen sixty six and began losing support losing financial contributions and within the black community more mainstream. Civil rights groups saying, you know, we need you should stick to, you know, racial issues. This is what we're about and snick following on the internationalism of people like Malcolm X said, no, we're we're more than this. In fact, in nineteen sixty seven snick stated that we are. Now a Hugh. Human rights group, not simply a group dealing with American racial issues. And then, of course, Martin Luther King junior came out Naple of sixty seven against the war in Vietnam similarly to great opprobrium, so black Americans very keen observers of events going on in the world in Vietnam and decolonization in Africa and Asia, and at times in, you know, reminiscent of things going on today as you mentioned at the beginning of your program sometimes face great backlash for speaking out on those global issues during the free South Africa campaign in the nineteen eighties. It became well. Known that Israel and South Africa had a strategic relationship which further contributed to black American opposition to Israel's foreign policies and its domestic. Policies. That's true. That's very true. And in fact, extended back even until the sixties when snick issued its famous newsletter article in August, nineteen sixty seven blasting Israel and hailing the Palestinian struggle and receives so much abuse and opprobrium for that news article that was one of the first example, I think many people especially supporters of Israel, thaw, black Americans daring to challenge Israel that very newsletter. Article mentioned, you know, Israel's ties with South Africa with at what was then known as Rhodesia in December nineteen seventy a group called black Americans for truth about the Middle East published large Adil page ad in the New York Times, which was responding to a pro Israeli ad in the times that have been published six. Months earlier by the likes of Baird reston. And in this December nineteen seventy statement in the New York Times denouncing Israel and and calling for Americans. Not to support is again mentioned Israel support usual support between Israel and South Africa. And the group that same year nineteen seventy group the American committee on Africa. There was an internal dispute where many of the staff members of the American comedian Africa who themselves younger and black were saying, we're a group that busy was started to support the South African freedom struggle the group got started in the fifties. And yet we're saying nothing about the close ties between Israel and some Africa. So yes that connection that many Americans of African descent drew in the eighties. It too had older roots as black Americans said, look, you know, sometimes America. Allies like Israel on wrong side of history when it comes to questions near and dear to our hearts and people to notes in the nineteen seventies. When Andrew Young Jimmy Carter's ambassador to the United Nations became involved in talks with the Palestinians and was subsequently fired. Yes. And in fact, the first thing that went through my mind when hearing about the controversy regarding Marc Lamont hill in December was that. Well, here's here's the Andrew Young affair all over again. Young was the United States ambassador to the United Nations. He was the highest ranking black American in the Carter administration. He was the first black occupy the position of UN ambassador and in service to American diplomatic goals. He felt obliged secretly to meet with the PLO's. Ambassador to the United Nations names, Tennessee in order to block, the UN Security Council discussing something that would have called for a Palestinian state. So he did his much in service of American ideals. But according to a nineteen seventy five agreement that then secretary of state Henry Kissinger made Israel, the United States was to have no ties no connection. No, nothing with the PLO and so- Carter fired him. And then it came out a few days later that the American ambassador to Austria and named Milton Wolff had in fact, himself three times not one three times met with the official secretly in Europe. And nothing happened to him. So black Americans of all stripes from more militant ones black power was really on the wane by nineteen seventy nine down to more conservative. Civil rights. Leaders were furious at this not only unequal. Treatment comparing what happened wolf with what happened to Andrew Young? But they also felt that it was a patronizing effort by well educated Whitey leads to say that look blacks can speak out on the issues of the day if they relate to race, but not if they relate to foreign policy, and it was a huge brouhaha that led to both Jesse Jackson and Joseph Lowry, traveling to the Middle East beating with yes. Outta fat. Head of the Pilo, and it really galvanize a lot of issues that motivated blacks viewing data right to speak out on the greatest of the day. Whether it was the Middle East or something else today. Supporters of Israel get livid whenever the word apart Tate and Israel are mentioned in the same breath. Yes, I think one of the most famous examples of that speaking of Jimmy Carter occurred just a few years. Ago after Carter published a book dealing with the Arab Israeli conflict. It said peace not apart. He took so much grief that he actually later apologized for using the term, you know, here's the former president of the United States peeling back into a corner enough that he felt he had to policies using that connection. Of course, people who have made the connection say that in terms of carrying ID cards in terms of security forces in terms of no goes owns of fences, and the like said that both Israel and the way it deals with Palestinians, both in Yankee pied territory, and within Israel itself is an ethnic based identity system. And so they have very much held up the similarities, but the differences. And the fact that the word is has such a ring to it. And I think frankly, the fact that many strong supporters of Israel felt nervous about any kind of moral comparison between the apartheid system, and what's going on with the Palestinians that really enrage them. And I think I think in many ways that same sense if you're goes on today visa, the the b- DS movement to boycott divestment and sanctions movement, which was used successfully in the South African case. I think some of the outrage by strongly pro Israeli people against beady s beyond anything else. They may object to it. I think is this. I d that it's you don't want that world quivalent C, you know, Israel is like South Africa and therefore by extension, those fighting South Africa, and those fighting is your somehow have international right on their side. Yes. It states across the country and in. The national legislature of the United States. There are laws that have been passed that would restrict or outlaw folks who support beady. Yes. And those laws fly in the face of court precedents that are based on black boycotts here in this country against racist businesses. Yes. And in fact, especially here the south I live in Virginia. I teach at a college in Virginia. I have actually said that that when officials legislators governors whatever particularly in southern states in act law laws that seek to punish people for boycotting anything. I mean, Israel happens to be the subject is you or but boycotting anything that is very much reminiscent of very ugly period of time when people seeking to preserve racial supremacy in the south. Thought to criminalize what ironically, very peaceful form of protest in the late nineteen sixties, California. Governor Ronald Reagan famously said that's says are charges and the great boycott from the United farm workers was quote terribly immoral without really explaining what was immoral about non violent form of protests. So I think people and even there are some democratic candidates for president. That's Bernie Sanders who would say, look, regardless of whether you think boycotting Israel, Israel, isn't a good thing. The act of boycotting itself, surely falls within the realm of free speech movement, and I think on a wider level. It is kind of ironic that people who are strong supporters of Israel have criticized Palestinians quite sharply over the years for armed struggle for the use of violence in their struggle against Israel. And then find it spree, Iran. Onic that starting in two thousand five when they have urged they the Palestinians vers their supporters around the world to take up a nonviolent form of resistance that has boycotts and divestments that they similarly criticized I mean, one is left saying, we'll what form of protests. What form of struggle? Are you going to find acceptable for the Palestinians? Or for their supporters around the world, those who support Palestinian rights, indeed, and my personal opinion. Once again is regardless of whether one thinks that boycotting Israel is or isn't a good thing. Or isn't is or isn't reflective of one's own politics. Again, the idea I think that so many people for so many decades called on the Palestinians to cease violence and acts of violence and terrorism and pursue a nonviolent struggle. Well, well, and behold, here's what they've chosen 's. So again, putting aside even for a moment the question whether one supports or the idea that people are engaged in nonviolent form of resistance. I think in any part of the world on any issue is a welcome thing that should be embraced. But of course, most anything to do in this country having to do with Israel is always very very controversial. And we're going to see that in the upcoming president. Elections where once again that will be the one thing that both the democrat and the Republican candidate will agree on is, you know, strong support for Israel in this ongoing debate about blacks, and Tyler Stein, and Israel, the Israel lobby often puts forth Martin Luther King as being on the Israeli side of this debate. Well, you know, my research showed that kings position on the Arab Israeli conflict was actually more nuanced than that. And you're right that you know, Martin Luther King junior's is political goal is put capitol. Everybody wants a piece of king. And various people have always suggested, what would king think about this issue that issue the Arab Israeli is no exception. Indeed in the last ten years, or so there has been an article that has often been cited about king. He allegedly wrote called letter to. Anti-zionist friend equating anti-zionist with anti semitism that has turned out to be a hoax even strongly pro Israeli groups have conceded. He never wrote. This the article the page numbers journal that allegedly appeared in people have checked it didn't exist. So, you know, who came up with his folks, we're not sure, but the reality is that Martin Luther King junior, really understood Palestinian grievances. He traveled to Jerusalem and West Bank and nineteen fifty nine. My research showed a story that no one's ever read before. Which is that king became ill in Jerusalem. He was treated by Dr Who while actually ethnically Armenian was there speaker grew up all his life in Jerusalem and was refugee like hundreds of thousands of other Palestinians in the nineteen forty eight war. And he told me the doctor told me king when I finished treating king said, please sit down we'd like to talk. And the doctor said, okay, and it we'd like to hear the era point of view. All we hear these Rayleigh point of view. This is nineteen fifty nine. So he told them he talked to him the doctor later arranged for dinner with dignitaries from east Jerusalem and king, in fact, made a speech delivered a sermon a walk through the holy land two weeks later back extra avenue Baptist church. So by the nineteen sixties in after Israel launched the sixty seven war and occupied Christian holy sites in the West Bank. King was actually planning a pilgrimage to the area that he called off because he didn't want to enter that thicket with he didn't wanna seem to be supportive of Israel's action. He was getting flack from black power advocates for stance. And so king basically in the remaining months of life came up with a certain position. When asked about the issue. He would always say Israel has a right to exist. Period. Full stop you never. Talked about Israel's actions, but he said Israel's right to exist. However peace will not come to the Middle East until the herb world can be moved out of poverty. He said just like our inner cities poverty breeds frustration explosions of violence. So he never came out publicly and said he understood or support of the political grievances of the Palestinians, which he clearly understood, but the most he would say is we need to solve poverty. But you know, indeed for that. He still went out of his way to always link the two yes, I support his right to Ziff. However, we have to deal with poverty in the world. We have to dress that issue for Palestinians and other Arabs. If they're ever gonna be peace in the Middle East. So yes, he support Israel. But again, it was a much more nuanced position. King was clearly very aware. And Jesse Jackson later wrote the before he died. King said the Palestinians is going to be the next big. Issue. The world has to deal with that was professor Michael Fischbach, author of the book black power and Palestine, the South American nation of Venezuela has held more elections in the past twenty years than any other nation in the hemisphere, and maybe the entire world, but the corporate media in both political parties in the US insists that Venezuela's. Socialist government is a dictatorship President Trump has seized billions in Venezuelan assets and is threatening military action in Greenville, South Carolina. If you one Gaza is a people's lawyer and director of the Malcolm X center for self-determination one Gaza was among the international observers that have verified all of Venezuelans elections as free and fair. Not only do I take this position. But. Flora president US president Jimmy Carter. Also takes the position that this will has the most transparent and cleanest elections of any country in the world so much. So that the Carter Center almost doesn't even bother about going anymore because that description has not changed when I participated as a in the observer delegation last may which happened to be Malcolm X's birthday weekend. I was utterly amazed at the transparency the access and the certification process. We know that the first thing that we experience was the opportunity to examine the hardware. The hardware was designed in collaboration. With Venezuelan engineers and Chinese manufacturers. The software was the same thing. They showed us exactly piece by piece how it worked only. Go looking at the software. The software has internal safety measures and checks, and as a verification process that any citizen any citizen can walk off the street in his or her polling place and demand. Not only an audit. But also demand an examination and certification of the software as his or her vote is being processed ballads is being processed. I wanna go to access in this country. We know voter suppression in industry in and of itself in Venezuela. It's just the opposite. The government. Takes every effort to make sure that that folk are able to vote in fact, when someone tours eighteen years old, they are automatically registered in eligible to vote and that I would point out is without regard for one's for lack of with editor criminal punishment status. Further. All candidates have an equal amount of free time on media television radio print is different because Prentice owned the all campaigning on that level in two weeks before the election. So we have voters having ready automatic access to the polls the franchise we have tended est. Having full unfettered on costly free access to the public through the media and on the day of the election itself. Their polling places everywhere. The only place that I saw a line to vote was on the military bases in the neighborhoods. People come in they identify themselves. That'd be has their identity card. They present their identity cards. The first machine has their thumbprint, which is electrically attach to their identity card and a picture of them and their identity card appears in response to this on red. So it's very clear that the person who is voting is the person who is supposed to be voting. They go from that station to the next station where essentially the same process. This is occurs, and they signed themselves into the polling place. They go from that sation to the ballot itself, which is combination of pictures and letters narrative, and it really reminded me very much of our voting literacy program in the south during the sixties, especially in lounge county where the lack camp that was us as the symbol to not only to body the spirit of the campaign, but also overcome too high illiteracy rate of the unity with which we were dealing. So you have that same crying of concern and solution in Venezuela. Once the ballot has been been marked and here the people actually vote for the party as opposed to voting for. For the individual. But once they have cast their ballot. Then the ballot prints out a receipt just like you get at the at an ATM machine. The then that receipt is compared with you can compare it with what your recollection is of how you voted and whether or not it's reflected in the process as represented by the receipt here in South Carolina. We have a paperless system where even elected officials have objected to having cats of boat chosen the candidate and another candidate's name come up this has gone on for at least the past twenty years without change. And now the the Republican administration, and is not limited frankly to the Republicans or the democrat problems, Democrats are better. Had said, okay, we're gonna change the machines 'cause they're all their mouth functioning. And we need the money to change the system with a paper ballot to have have pay at least the receipt that that. So that we can go back and look see if consistence it now last week they've announced that they can't do that. Because they don't have enough money to do that. But they're so concerned about democracy, right and Venezuela as the end of the day, the managers of appalling managers must take a tally of the signatures. They must take tally of the thumb imprint s-, they must take a tally of ballots themselves. They must take a tally of the outcome of the ballots. This is done in full. Public view do can stand there right beside the poll managers and watch everything they do not from across the room right beside them. All of those tallies must match if they do not match they have to go through the process all over again and any citizen in that. Polling place can say, I don't like what that looks like I wanna see this section of it or want to see the whole thing it has to be redone in the United States. You can't even get to where they tell the votes assuming that there's even a paper ballot or Philadelphia where are used to live. They had the so it was nothing again at the end of the evening. All of this information is both transmitted electronically to the. Election commission headquarters and all the paperwork is taken to the electoral commission at that time. The there is a comparison. And again, the tallies must match after that process is completed then the members of the wrecks in commission comes in to a public forum and announces what the outcome of the election is and if Goto my Facebook pays they'll see me standing in that room with the outcome of the election on the screen behind me where Madurai one but almost two to one. Now, it has to be put it out that the United States in his continuous meddling in other people's elections had told the opposition. To boycott while the segment of the opposition most heavily on the US control. Did in fact boycott it was estimated that even if they have participated they would not have gotten more than forty percent of the vote of the opposition that did participate. They got even less. I think they got roughly around fifteen to twenty percent, but you can see the graph. So the notion that Madero was not elected is totally bogus. And we see the United States going into its regular pattern. First vilification for the purposes of discounting, the the leadership that the people choose and then imposing sanctions were destabilization and Thirdly to present its own candidate for. Office. We saw that when they tried to overthrows Southern's before we saw in Chile when they killed, and we saw it and Iran we've seen it repeatedly. And we must stand up and speak out against it. And speak insa port of the Venezuela. One democracy its sovereignty and the integrity of is constitution as a black America. I'm sure you were highly cognizant of the demographics that supported the socialist government and those that opposed it. Absolutely. We went into neighborhoods where first of all under shove as more than two million public housing units were built you have even as we speak. We have China we have Russia. We have Iran that inventory will building even more public housing while in the United States, probably housing is being destroy decimated. The mileage and numbers of homelessness in the United States ratcheting up exponentially. So so put it simply it is the afro Venezuela's who are significant in numbers. You know, we think that only we're only in the United States in Africa. But the the largest population outside of the United States is in South America, Brazil, of course, but then as wheel is close behind. So when we get a chance to see the demonstrations, the pro government, demonstrations black people and Brown people indigenous people as compared with the demonstrations against the governor. Which are the white folks who think that they are going to get back into power as a result of US control of the resources that they will give over to the states business community as every element of the US from Trump on down to that criminal convicted war criminal Elliot Abrams. The oil of the Venezuelan people the Venezuelan people have sworn to not only protect the constitution, but protect that resource. I would also point out that in every country that the United States invades, it has been a country that is not only had resources, but despite whatever corruption and squander them may have been have also used the resources to benefit the people where they've had free to cost housing free to low cost. Education health care and quality of life, whether the talking about Iraq, Iran, Libya, and now Venezuela it's time that we stand with the people of the world, and especially us as black people. Reclaim our moral center, and our moral authority as the voice of equity in this country. Now, we know that when the United States decided to invade Iraq, the outcry here at around the world was just regarded, but that is not a reason to not stand. The Congressional Black caucus does not seem even to ignore that the afro that is Waylon 's exist, and neither does the great black democratic cope. Kamala Harris Cup Manoa Harris. Has been so committed to the status quo to the real of white supremacists. Racist law in this country as represented by her position as district attorney in San Francisco and state attorney for California. There is no reason to expect anything different from her cop. Malla Harris is a parasitic opportunist. Who right? Barack Obama is a Trojan horse coming into the black community at other communities of color using the emotional heartstrings as a gateway to the White House and the retention of white power in the hands of if not actual white male. Sales white male Saragan. How is it that this received wisdom that the Venezuelan process is unfair? And that the socialist government is corrupt. How is that accepted by virtually all of the mainstream politicians despite the lack of any evidence more could about it being accepted by the masses of people mad is that the as the Nazi propagandist. Put it if you tell a lie often in than the people will believe it and the election of Donald Trump show set is modern times that that up sedation is as true now as it was then and given that the electoral class in this country is committed one too. To capitalism, and their individual personal aggrandize that and enrichment that they are desirous of even though they know better maintaining their positions of comfort and ease. Even if it's at the expense of the masses of the people, and as they put it democracy. There is no discussion in the current furor over Venezuela of international law. The subject doesn't even come up in the United States. And that's the evidence of how little respect that the United States on all levels and all sectors have for law. Generally. We know that the law is nothing more than the codification of the will of those with the gun. It is a matter of coercion. It is a matter of might making. Right. Without regard for ethics or morality? There's not much of an antiwar movement in the United States. But what there is of it is mobilizing behind the threats Venezuela. We know that there is a US delegation will be going to Venezuela in the coming days in order to gather information and to report back it is important that they get as great a airy as possible for one and number two that there is a mass demonstration scheduled for the month of March and people be on the lookout for the notices and information and to participate in that March and the expressions of outraged at a that's necessary to at least inform the rest of the world. And the people have been Layla. There is support in the United States for them. And right met was if you one Gaza of the Malcolm X center for self-determination in Greenville, South Carolina, the popular backlash against deepening economic inequality gets more intense by the day. Will you Mendelssohn is co author a book, titled as black as resistance finding conditions for liberation in an article in truth out Anderson said it's time to heed Dr Martin Luther King's call for the abolition of poverty abolition pretty much sums up the feeling of people like myself who are quite done with the idea of trying to reform what would never supposed to work for us to begin. With simply put a lot of thing that needs to be abolished. Whether we're talking about the prison system, whether we're talking about policing or whether. We're talking about the construct of whiteness and white supremacy. There's plenty to abolish and abolitionist are tired of trying to reform institutions that are meant to oppress that are correctly doing their job properties parts of a system. And this system does have people at the top who are in control. So if you're talking about abolishing, poverty, you talking about abolishing, these classes folks who create and sustain poverty, right? That one of the things that I tried to touch on in the piece is that this whole concept that some people deserve to have wealth, and that some people deserve to have all of these resources that they hoard it because they worked hard. I've said before that really the hard work of accumulating that much capital in becoming a billionaire if called expectation that is. The hard work of being astronomically wealthy. There is no oh you earned a billion dollars. You got there through some sort of exploitation is just not possible under the system of racial capitalism to get to that point where you have accumulated that much through hard work is this kind of asinine to think that's how it works. But unfortunately, people buy into the myth Olivetti, and the fairytale that the elite tell them that if they work hard that they can get there. So, unfortunately, a lot of people seek to attain that sort of wealth rather than over so well because they think that maybe one day they'll be lucky enough to be in that position if they work hard enough, but most people are never going to achieve that sort of wealth. And they don't realize that the system is actually working correctly to keep them in the position that they're in and exploit them and their labor. Yeah. Well, let's talk about this elite, isn't that's an easy thing to do. Because. There are fewer and fewer of them at the top with more and more. Jeff Bezos is the richest man in the world. He's one of the three people who own more wealth than half of the population of the United States, and he owns Amazon, and in terms of people working Amazon workers think their place of work is infamous for working people damn near the death. The thing that always kind of blows my mind about the increasingly wealthy capitalists who maintain and control so much if how they constantly find ways to extract even more and the way that people are constantly held in this chokehold, by the way that they're constantly extracting more, and it getting worse and worse. Worse. And I often wonder and this is what I was talking about. You know, what blows my mind often wonder why aren't people seeking to get rid of this? Why are a lot of people? Okay with this or or why a lot of people excusing this. And I know that there are plenty of people who aren't okay with it. But they're just maybe isn't the the political education or the consciousness needed to feel that there's something that they can do yet. And I think that that again, it's where we have to come in and really start having conversations and doing work in our communities around political education and explaining people that there is more than this isn't the only option people really buy into this idea that they're living in the greatest country in the world, and that they have the best system, and that they're the most free, and that is where propaganda and again, the mythology. That the state puts out there. That's where that comes in. So so much of the work that we have to do to make sure that there are not people like measles like who can sit there and control so much. Well, the work that we have to do to make sure that there isn't that sort of inequality is really a lot has so much to do with debunking the myth that people have been said about someone like him in your truth now article you reference, both duck the Martin Luther King and the Black Panther party and win folks. Look back at the nineteen sixties this lots of discussion about the differences between Dr king and the Black Panthers. But the similarity certainly is that both the Panthers end, Dr king were socialists, right? There is a lot of misunderstanding about the Panthers than what they represent. And I think that it becomes pretty apparent. When you listen to people have conversations, and they kind of represent things in this binary, which is violent versus non violent when both king and the Panthers were actively practicing and engaging ideas around self defense. Dr king was not just out here vulnerable getting beat up all the time and taking risks without having people around him who were talking about self defense without him trying to you know, get his gun permit himself like king was actively thinking about self defense the same way that the Panthers talk about self defense. And there were many similarities there that people just simply don't know about. It's unfortunate that is painted as one versus the other. Whether it's Malcolm X is legacy or whether it's king's like the back Panthers and many of the people in the civil rights movement like fanny, Lou Hamer, and countless others. I'd be world talk about self defense and the importance of it, but that leg. Gets kind of co-opted swept under the rug. I actually wrote a piece before about how the state has really kind of co opted king day and made it into a day of service and made it into something that is really supposed to be about some sort of patriotism when king was critiquing, the society, and everything that it represents and everything that it does and a wave that in a way that so powerful really ridiculous that the state has been able to co-opt it and turn it into something to reinforce it. So to make king patriotic figure when king was critiquing damning, a lot of the things that this society represents rather than simply worshiping get in portraying it as something it's not, you know. So there's a lot of complexities about king and the Panthers, and what the work that we all want to achieve as as activists in this country and the people who want to change. -ociety what it represents reality. As opposed to what it's made out to be people who don't want us to know, the true message of it. But in terms of Dr king's socialism, and the Black Panthers socialism that connection really is not strange at all Dr Michael Dawson, the noted black social demographer believes that most black folks politics, bring them to a kind of at least Swedish Social Democratic socialism. Anyway, I think that a lot of people are closer than we might imagine that that's true. It's very interesting to see the way that the Medicare for all conversation, and the push has been happening and see people becoming increasingly demanding around healthcare. I think that that's definitely a sign that people are becoming increasingly fed up and realizing. That it can be better than this. And again so much of this goes back to liberal education. I don't really call myself anything, you know, I don't call myself, a socialist. And you know, I think a lot of people would consider me an anarchist because of my writing, and my socialization, but really I think that my main focus is just anti-capitalism and abolition at this point because I feel like a lot of times we can get caught up in secretary. And as I've had that happened a lot on the left. There's a lot of talk out there. These days about a universal basic income and lots of that talk is coming from the billionaires, especially from Silicon Valley themselves. Why are billionaires talking about universal basic income? There's a lot of people who have gotten involved in again fights like Medicare for all. And or the fight for fifteen which is in. Even enough with the fifteen dollars minimum wage, and there's just movements happening that are increasing around people wanting more. And so what this capitalist class is doing with this elite class that can control so much of the wealth in this country doing they're getting hit the frustration. And the resentment that's building and trying to be able to control the process and dole out the change rather than have to suffer from any consequences of uprising. It's not far fetched to think or to understand that the capitalist know that people are eventually going to say, this is not okay and want to overthrow this system. But what they do is they try to get ahead of that. And to try to kind of finesse people in to being more accepting of it by being able to control the process of any sort of some Bali or minor changes. That can may be hold that off hold that overthrow off. I really hope that everyone who is seeing the word abolition, and who is entertaining ideas around abolition and thinking about it. I really hope that people understand and feel that this system this capitalist system that we are living under and these conditions that were living there are absolutely unacceptable. There is nothing about this society that is acceptable these astronomical amounts of wealth that are being hoarded by the people at the top are not acceptable. We have to be thinking about abolishing rather than reforming this system is working as intended to work, whether we're thinking about the prison system again, you know, policing the just. Criminal deficits as a whole whether we're thinking about capitalism, and the way that people are at the bottom and being exploited constantly would no matter what it is these things need to be abolished. It doesn't need to be fit because it's working the way that it's intended to work. And so that's what really we're talking about. When we talked about, listen, we're not feeding into this idea that these things could be reformed. That's why a lot of things aren't changing quickly enough because there's there's language route reform that people get caught up in. And it's just not tease -able like it's not something that we can entertain for the rest of our lives. We need to be thinking about abolition because we can make in create a world that is much better than the one that we have. And that's it for this edition of black agenda radio. Be sure to visit at black agenda report dot com where you will find a new and provocative issues each Wednesday. That's WWW dot black agenda report dot com. It's leap place for news commentary and analysis from the black left on Nellie Baillie along with my co-host. Glenn poured are to the good people at the progression radio network.

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"From New York is democracy now on in how many of us were killed. This is not the first time the US Open twice. Before and a third time back. I will never mean from care. I swear swear to God on my life. He'll leave here. Iran backed militia members withdraw from the US embassy in Baghdad Iraq. After they broke through its reception area to protest. You air strikes in Iraq and Syria that killed at least twenty four militia members within update from the Guardian correspondent. A good and we go to Syria. Where quarter of a million people have fled the Russian back? Syrian offensives lead Uh Khazei we didn't know what bombing came from everywhere was moms and ran away with clouds and us. We need everything here. We want everything we need from our God stove diesel oil clothes food and some drink. Everything aid groups warned Syria could face the worst humanitarian crisis in Syria's his nine year war. We'll get an update then to India where protests against the new anti Muslim citizenship law continued despite a government. Crackdown with more than thousand housing. People Arrested in at least twenty seven kills seeing this. He endured Milam maintain thirty. He played and hit skipping stone. All that and more coming up. Welcome to democracy now democracy now DOT ORG the Warren Impeach report. I'm Amy Goodman in Iraq members of an iranian-backed militia and supporters have withdrawn from the Green Zone after two day standoff outside the US embassy embassy in Baghdad. The militia members broke into a gatehouse at the perimeter of the sprawling embassy Tuesday setting fire to the structure on Wednesday. US troops oops teargassed. The militia members militia withdrew after Iraqi Prime Minister Outta lobbed Medea pledged to pursue legislation to force U. S. troops out of Iraq. This is Mohammed Al.. Dari of the popular popular mobilization forces and a whole lot of every in Mo- Juden on the American can troops in Iraq to train Iraqi forces to combat terrorism. The killing of members of the house. This is something unacceptable shaw coming here until the US troops leave the embassy. Standoff came after the United States launched a slew of air strikes in Iraq doc in Syria Sunday that killed at least twenty four Iraqi members of the iranian-backed militia tab s Bhalla. The Iraqi. Prime Minister had warned warn Defense Secretary Mark Espe- against the air strikes which came as retaliation after a contractor was killed in a rocket attack in Kirkuk Iraq Friday eh the Pentagon's now sent seven hundred fifty more troops to the Middle East and secretary of state. Mike POMPEO has delayed trip to Ukraine and four other nations nations the showdown at the. US Embassy in Baghdad comes amidst months of anti-government protests in Iraq. These protesters say they were not part of the show down at the. US Embassy Embassy in that they're opposed to corruption and Iranian influence in Iraq in Syria. Aid workers say Syrian government artillery. Fire killed at least it's nine civilians including five children on New Year's Day in the northwestern province of He'd leave which is facing heavy bombing and ground offensive by the Russian back Syrian government aid worker. Say At least sixteen. More civilians were injured in the cluster munitions bombing of a school where displaced people were taking refuge over over the last month. Nearly three hundred thousand civilians have been forced to flee the Syrian government's offensive against he'd live which is home to about three million civilians. More more than seventy five percent of whom are women and children since April at least sixty health facilities have been bombed in the region sparking the United Nations to launch unlimited inquiry into seven of the incidents. We'll have more on the offensive. Need Leib later in the broadcast in Australia. The eastern state of New South swells has declared a week long state of emergency amidst raging climate fueled wildfires. Thousands of residents and tourists are fleeing the area in the neighboring state of Victoria troops are preparing to evacuate thousands more people who are trapped by the fires there at least four thousand Alison were forced to flee the beach to escape the approaching blazes. The unprecedented fire season in Australia comes as the Indonesian capital of Jakarta. It was inundated by the worst rainfall in nearly a quarter century. At least twenty one people have died in the flooding and more than sixty thousand were forced to evacuate their homes. Both Oh th- increasingly powerful wildfires and extreme rainfall have been linked to climate change across the world. Protesters celebrated elaborated the New Year by taking to the streets to demand more democracy to protest economic austerity in Hong Kong. Tens of thousands of people marched on New Year's. There's Day to depend more political autonomy from Beijing. Police arrested four hundred protesters bringing the total number of people arrested in the ongoing pro democracy. Democracy protests in Hong Kong to over seven thousand in Chile thousands poured into the streets of the capital Santiago to protest economic inequality quality and to commemorate the twenty. Six people who've been killed during the ongoing demonstrations this is Sandra. One of the Chilean protesters miss came because we have been protesting for months. The government has not listened to US pretended not to know and have the does. He have done unconstitutional things. When we come to celebrate in quotes because it is not a celebration came to commemorate all those who have been injured and killed killed by this government in France? Union workers continue their strike to protest. French President Emmanuel macron's efforts to raise the retirement a day. J- It's now Francis longest railway workers strike since nineteen sixty eight. During macron's New Year's Day address he vowed to press ahead with his efforts to overhaul the pension system. This is union representative the beauty. Honey this since the first day December fifth we've been calling for this reform today we're expecting cement macron has doesn't surprise because we weren't expecting anything from him the president who's full of himself who doesn't listen to the photograph to bear in mind. That macron has to listen to people who have felicitate macron in Israel prime administer. Benjamin Netanyahu has asked the Israeli parliament to grant him immunity from prosecution in three corruption cases. He's been indicted over. Netanyahu is rare and unpopular move. Means he could remain out of court for as long as he serves in parliament. Netanyahu is the longest serving Israeli prime minister. He's he's running for a fourth consecutive term election March second the third national election Israel and less than a year in Mexico at least sixteen prisoners. Just were killed when a riot erupted in prison in the central state of sock attack us. Mexico's prisons are notoriously overcrowded. Tuesday's violence follows another deadly prison prison riot and October in which six prisoners were killed. In the central state of Morello's Pope Francis condemn violence against women during his New Year's Day address. The Vatican Fun of women are sources of life offended beaten raped induced a prostitute themselves themselves and to suppress the life they carry in their rooms all violence inflicted on women as desecration of God. Born of a woman on Wednesday Pope Francis also apologized which is for slapping away the hand of a woman on New Year's Eve in a video that has since gone viral and scores of new laws are taking taking effect across the country with the start of twenty twenty affecting wages privacy rights gun laws marijuana use criminal justice and more throughout throughout the United States. The minimum wage has gone up in twenty one different states and in about two dozen cities and counties across California. The California Consumer Sumer Privacy Act Now allows California residents to learn what data companies have collected about them and to demand those companies delete the data if residents want want California has also suspended the statute of limitations for sexual abuse crimes for three years allowing survivors the chance to pursue prosecution. Listen Colorado's tightened. Its Gun laws. Although a number of Colorado counties oppose the new measure and have declared themselves to be Second Amendment Quote Sanctuaries. He's Tennessee has loosened. Its Gun laws by making it easier for residents to receive a concealed carry handgun permit in Illinois. Marijuana is now legal in New York cash. Bail has been eliminated for most misdemeanor and nonviolent felony cases in a move criminal justice reform advocates say could lead to the release release of thousands of people incarcerated before their trial Oregon now banned single use plastic bags at grocery stores and California. Yeah has become the first state in the country to explicitly banned discrimination against people based on their natural hair. The Crown Act Now makes it illegal legal for employers or school officials to impose dress codes or policies that ban afros braids locks or other hairstyles California -fornia state senator. Holly Mitchell celebrated the move saying quote this law protects the right of black Californians to choose to wear their hair and its natural form without pressure to conform to eurocentric norms. She said and there's just some of the headlines. This is democracy now democracy now dot Org the Warren Peace Report Sport. I'm Amy Goodman and I mean shaef welcome to our listeners and viewers around the country and around the world we begin. Today's show in Iraq where Iran backed militias members and their supporters withdrew from the US embassy in buck thoughts heavily guarded Green Zone on Wednesday. After being teargassed by American security forces their withdrawal ended a tense standoff that began Tuesday when militia members broke through the embassy's reception area chanting. Death is to America while thousands rallied outside to protest several. US Air strikes in Iraq and Syria that killed at least twenty four members of the militia Hezbollah the US. Air Strikes came after an American contractor was killed in a rocket attack in Kirkuk Iraq on Friday the embassy withdrawal was order by militia leaders. WHO said they agreed to leave? After Iraqi Prime Minister Adil Abdul Mattie pledged to pursue legislation to force U. S. troops out of Iraq DOC Secretary of state. Mike pompeo delayed his trip to Ukraine and the Pentagon sent seven hundred fifty troops to the Middle East and response to the embassy. Showdown around the United States has around five thousand troops stationed in Iraq as well as an undisclosed number of civilian contractors for more we go to stumble where we're joined by faith a correspondent for the Guardian newspaper Eighth. We welcome you to democracy now. Can you explain what just happened in Orrock over these last few days. Explain who the Iranian backed militia is what happened at the. US Embassy and now the deal that has been made with the Iraqi Iraqi prime minister and parliament to consider tossing out US troops. What Good Morning Amy? Amy See to understand what happened in the last few days we have to go couple of months back three months in particular with the beginning of the demonstration awesome buckler popular demonstrations against The corrupt political system dominated by these pro Iranian militias. And put it to COMPA auditees for the last three months. The militias and their political parties have been on the backfoot because Iran and these militias have been associated with corruption misrule. Miss would you know with the worst kind of you know service system in this country so suddenly And along along these last couple of months certain things have been happening Really away from from the media so there's almost Attacks by weekly attacks on Iraqi shed Iraq in American basis the last of which killed the conductor but two weeks or three weeks earlier. Two so Erica. Soldiers were seriously hurt at the same time. You have the kidnapping detention disappearance of a lot of the activists who participate in these demonstrations so so these militias have been on the back foot and then suddenly they've managed to beat the Americans into this airstrike which killed twenty four Iraqi fighters because we have to remember this minutes apart of government structure so they killed twenty four Iraqi fighters on Iraqi soil and that has been the trigger for this demonstration so suddenly in the past two three days these militias these powers political powers. Roughly concert the iranian-backed Iran have all managed to regain the initiative by portraying themselves but portraying all what's happening in the country in the past three three months as a struggle between America on one side and Iran on the other side. I mean you see the graffiti on on the walls of the embassy US money. My lead lied Iran stays free. It's all these anti-american Chan. Iran Chan and by Association they've managed to portray the demonstrators waiters as all members of this American plots working to destabilize the government. So these this strike of the last week week have been the best gift These ministers could aspire for because it just transformed the political narrative adult today. Could you give have a more background on the role that Iran has been playing in Iraq. And explain you just said that the graffiti on the on the US embassy included saying that my leader Qasim money. Could you explain who he is and how you think these. US strikes Might change the dynamic both of the protests as well as what these militias will now do the role. They'll now play in Iraq again to go back to these demonstrations you see a very corrupt political system now. This political corrupt system dominated rated by either put religious political parties or militias all backed by Iran so by association. The people in the street are denouncing Iranian interference in Iraq one for their support of these militias and second for What they perceive as an Iranian interference in Iraqi political ED mainly for the support of these you know she Politicians data now that theme of Anti Iranian Indian sentiment has been central to the Iraqi demonstration of the past three months which have pushed the political parties dominated supported by that the militias to a one corner versus the Iraqi street on the other corner and that has been the narrative but then there's another non-active that goes in the Middle East which is the bigger Iran versus America conflict. which as happy and as many Iraqis fear is we feed that Iraq would become the next next battleground between Iran and the United States? Where will they fight? The Americans and Iranians will not fight in the Harare neo. They were quite in bustle on the or and other the places in the Middle East so awesome silly money The consider godfather all these militias and have Exaggerated agitated Ron of course. But this is what you know this what people talk about but mostly the militias members of the popular mobilization units have been pushed to the corner trained eight to defend their biggest ally Iran but also try to justify that role in politics now. Many of the people many of the kids hits demonstrating the street that also share. They're also served in these militias but then when the war against Isis finish those kids came back to see the the bosses who's the warlord's militias have enrich themselves while the majority Shiite south is still poor that dynamic that shifted the dynamic of demonstrations from before its share kits demonstrating against Shia militias. So it is the most important thing that's happening. Add up in the past thirty forty years this demonstration now with for the past three months. Also this has been trying to say. Oh this is all an American plot and this is where we are today. We are in a situation where the demonstration says in buck the have to justify explain that they are not part of an American plot targeting. Go on all of this so explain. Now what's happening with the caretaker Iraqi prime minister who's already said he's is leaving the US troops moving in teargassing some media outlets have described it. And that's why the militias pulled out but other I said they had already decided to pull out once. They say they got the agreement of the Iraqi prime minister to push the parliament to pass a bill and that has been there for some time but this has added strength to pass a bill to toss the US troops out these. The subtle theatrics I mean. People participated on the attack on the embassy where senior security adviser head of parliamentary bloc between them I pro Iranian militias and parties. They have more than one hundred sixty members of the parliament they could call for the for the removal of US forces. Not Today. Not uh-huh this airstrike long before. So all of these theatrics is is to try to bend some anger in the streets. I mean the Iraqi government. The Iraqi Prime Minister Canister unfortunately no very well obey the Iraqi army. The Iraqi security forces cannot stand sixteen years after the toppling Saddam saying on on their own without American support which is a disgrace with all the billions of dollars spent on them because of corruption. Mismanagement you call it today in Iraq we have to military's some say three. We have a sort of official government army police force special forces. Whatever and on the other side you have all these militias Inc.'s also officially in the structure of the but one is has loyalty basically to Huron and certain parts of the political system and other in theory has Loyalty to the state. Now the first one the official Iraqi army is very very weak is corrupt Only certain element of it can stand on its own versus a very powerful militia so this is the complicated situation and had this is the layers okay of complication it's not only demonstrators against Corrupt government it's also demonstrators against very strong militias and within the Larger American Aaron conflicts to go back to your question. Yes they will table a motion that will call for removal of all American troops out of Iraq. But we'll be achieved. Can they actually achieve that. I mean it's Mullarkey Mulkey. The former prime minister who signed the agreement with Americans. So can they just remove Democrats. CAn't Iraqi government stand on its own without American Air Force and air support. We'll be very interesting to see. But again the theatrics of it. All all the the cinematography of attacking the embassy of raising pro Iranian militia flags on the walls of the embassy of frighten possum Soleil money on the embassy. The theatrics of it all has dominated the scene in the past week against ship that the narrative from demonstrators it was against the government into Iran versus an ethical conflicts. And could you explain what you think. The effect has been of the trump WH- administration of withdrawing from the Iran nuclear deal and the effects of this maximum pressure sanctions sanctions that have been placed faced on Iran by the trump administration. And how that's altered what Iran is doing in Iraq simply disastrous. Amy Disastrous in every single aspect on therapy politics. I mean we have to remember. Iranian influence the iranian-backed militia did not exist and two thousand. Three American invasion of here are the Iranians when they were labeled a spot of axis of evil took the natural steps of any nation which is to defend their country beyond their borders so they decided to build an on these measures at Arab as the buffer zone as a way to influence politics and defend themselves again whatever American adventure as they call it and that was destroyed the Americans left and Iran became stronger and stronger now when the Americans cancelled that agreement with Iran Mayan other anarchist biggest few was us not the state of American Iranian relationship but my country era because that is the battlezone so when you apply I'm maximum pressure on Iran. Where would Iran vent that pressure Westwood Iran defendants up but in Iraq Saudi Arabia and other countries along The soft belly of the attestation. This is where the Iranians can hit. This is where the Americans have the military bases at one militia. Commander I peed on TV. Like I think last year a couple of years ago and said every American in the country every American soldiers our country we considers our hostage. This is what the Iranians will defend and this was over. Fear fear when the American decided to do maximum pressure on Iran without any alternative without any realistic alternative. What do you want to topple the Iranian government? You keep saying no but at the same time you put pressure and that pressure is reflecting we horribly in Arab politics and in that other situation in general so this is sort of one other thing actual feeling the country now in Buck is another round of civil war only this one would be a Shia Shia civil war it would be disastrous and this twenty twenty and we've just entered this new year is the presidential election and president trump asked President trump promised in two thousand and sixteen right. He was going to withdraw troops from places like Iraq Iraq and Syria and Afghanistan. What does this mean does this put him in a very serious spine if he wants to pursue what he's doing in Iraq going back Tim saying being years ago as President That he was going to keep Iraq. US troops in Iraq to monitor Iran on which infuriated everyone there. I mean I personally I would love to see the back of their neck and troops today. Hey tomorrow yesterday. Ten years ago the fact that you want to say we will leave the Middle East lovely. Just leave thank you so much. But at the same time you increase he's troop level in Iraq. And you say we'll have troops that to monitor Iran as you said it's suddenly you put Iraq in a situation. It's either with America or with Iran AIDS in on his own neighbor Iran House the longest borders with us. Iran would been fighting with the Iranians for decades if if no centuries we don't want to go to another war with Iran we don't want to be the launching PA The launching base for another American adventure in the Middle East and yet at the same time agreements the forces agreements with the United States states. That the American forces to secure Iraq Aerospace Secure Talk Government against attack so that shift in the latest accuser. Aronov as a lunch part of course would make Iranian allies in the region. Guitry accused Americans of of Plotting against them and something and again using that American arguments to encounter the demonstration the streets. This is what these militias have been doing all along even before these strikes so now you have the strike now. We have this rhetoric. This trump on Patrick. Can I tell you a small jerk. You know every single demonstrator. I've talked to in the squares and butter. They pray they tell me they wish they pray. That trump would never never utter a tweets regarding Iraqi politics. Because they don't want to be part of this Iran versus American narrative it is Iraqi demonstrations against against the Iraqi political system the militias to make it as if it's targeting Iran and now the Americans are using these demonstrations for their own. You know but at a pressure Roya. This is the delicate situation in Iraq. And it's again it's a country awash with weapons with militias with miniature forces eight and you civil civil war can spark within within hours if not days ahead. You were just in a dod before Christmas when these widespread red protests were ongoing but now given the US airstrikes Very quickly before we conclude are protesters concern. Now that those Their demonstrations will be viewed as pro American because they have been Anti Iranian. Yes I mean. This is the biggest concern for the demonstrators. The biggest so they would be labeled as pro Americans or stitches in an American plot against Iran but at the same time The youth the people in the streets. The writers all been very vocal from day. One to say that we are not part of any American plot. They denounce these American airstrikes and the trying to push the momentum or the narrative into electing a new prime minister and reforming the Constitution and the election law which has been their demand from day. One we want to thank you so much for being with US correspondent for the Guardian newspaper speaking to us from Turkey When we come back we turn to Syria? Where a quarter of a million people have fled the russian-backed Syrian offensive in Aleve stay with us has rocky from the album Middle Eastern this is democracy now democracy now dot. Org The warrant piece report. I'm Amy Goodman with their means shape. We turn now to Syria. Where aid workers say Syrian government artillery fire killed at least nine civilians including five children on New Year's Day in the northwestern province of it Lib which is facing heavy bombing and ground offensive by the russian-backed Assad regime at least sixteen civilians were injured over the last month? Nearly three hundred thousand civilians have been forced to flee the Syrian government's offensive offensive against leap which is home to about three million civilians. Three quarters of whom are women and children at least two hospitals and fourteen health centers have been forced I to close for more with joined by two guests. The democracy now video stream in Gaziantep Turkey not far from the Syrian border. See No hush. Saleh is with us a Syrian writer dissident and former political prisoner and in Berkeley California live by Syrian writer photographer and activists. WHO's worked in leap from two thousand twelve to fourteen for Reuters? We welcome you both to democracy. Now let's go to Turkey. I seen how can you describe what's taking place ice right now in Italy as well as you just mentioned There has been said at the offensive by Russians who are In December since December one more than a million people displacing editor. Norman which is a town with one hundred thousand people just go as completely the population had completely displaced and fortunate among them. Were the ones who were able to find a car. Or something to off the borders Jet Fighters at most of these people Are Now an accounts not help by the not with no eight from the agencies because you know connections on the Chinese used the veto of the UN Security Council just a few days ago. This decision The talks and security cameras about he got an hey deliveries without control of the regime science. CB DOXA call that people displaced by the Syrian regime demand the Russians regime to control the aid deliveries. But let me say that it is this around Russia. I said the war is only one and almost nine years war. The tolls that I think exceeded six hundred thousand people on it is the Method that JIM prefer to face popular uprising for change and for democracy and for freedom. You know that six six million may be six million and a half out of this place. Outside Syria and the neighboring countries were a a almost one million in Europe. What's happening is only one month? Have this more than one. Hundred Five Live monsters. Second Abdur when I was young myself there was a small war with the toll of tens of thousands tens tens of thousands in jail. I was one of them the time now. It has a beginning the most sinister thing about the situation in Syria is that that genocidal regime as a silly impo are truly it is more powerful now than ever because now as his protector of have the Russians on the Iranians with many sub state actors also Defending the regime from Lebanon. You now has from the acronym other countries so that is different from other genocides. We have seen we so or the twenty century like in Nazi Germany. It to us. It was a huge bat than as these were toppled and and yet whereas beg but the marriage Reggie Watts to Rwanda. There was a genocide on but then Syria is is being reinstalled by Russians and rehabilitated. Does a one can only expected that and the around that we may say see future victims will be in millions well yes and of course the the justification of the Assad regime and its Russian backers is that it live has been controlled by a jihadist this group and this is the last area in which they're powerful and so this assault is to house them your response to that well. Why schools hospitals are you got tackled? Is this for liberating civilians from terrorist terrorist organization at this terrorist organization indeed to our tires Sherman but when when you target hospitals markets schools as a New York Times. Report has a show today To others the aim as to displace population and not to liberate them not to help them against terrorists and it has been we know that it does it has been the norm actually. Earn all these Almost nine years. Actually I think we have really curious. Organization dash the the jeopardy today but the regime need is this to justify it is it is it is inviting Russians and Iranians add to stay in power forever as they openly say. You know we know that not not Russia. A speaker or speaker defended that that people are called for Special Tribunal for terrorists and died. I'm not thinking American by the way or or else else. You Speaker has called for a special crime. Unit for for for justice for the victims of for optimism of I myself I was there for some time and my brother off. This appeared more than six years ago. On many of my friends are our are we were docked by Americans by U. N. officials about the fate of our loved ones so it is not about about Warren War of terrorism. It is only apply text for over four power agencies like I think. GM Russia era. I did it is healthy. Everybody to fight against Israeli government the American Administration that Russians had the genocide regime. It is only appetites. They are not helping us against terrorism argue. Now that maybe maybe one maybe nine. Ninety percent of the Syria victims for fell other hand is of this other edgy. Not mandates the protectors. You wrote an article. Yes seen called terror genocide and the Jenna critic turn explain in what you mean by genetic critic as well as I built this from Jim Genus. Now is his Drive or race or does that used in genocide. I want to say that now it is not about democracy. It's not about the options of the people says about culture. Racism now is taking this cultural guys. Nice that is all of a cultural majorities minorities like in Syria. I it is infrastructure for genocide. They are using their cigarette. I'm over the war. On Terror to justify weakening democracy joining empower those who are already powerful to weaken popular movements or people on independent organisations eighty two and and it says the one now this leak shape because of that powerful as more powerful this is happening in the. US itself trump was elected. It's happening in India. They are using the same narrative Muslims in China on everywhere our yeah well. Democracy is now in crisis because it is not about democratic majorities about cultural our racial majorities the white supremacist in Europe and the US and India and by the way in our a country in the Arab world. I don't use it as there's LASAGNA. Practically they want war because they are the majority it is happening. Israel title. Of course Israel we know that the basically decided that is is the state of the Jewish people. So it's the state of the citizens are excluded excluded from this. So this is this is taking global a as a dominant globally now and at only promises aswell genocide is future. Joe Scientists becoming normalized political solution to a UH to too many problems in the world. And I'm sorry to say that The S. They have prepared the stage before this through developing after a post war this a discourse about the war on terror and finally yes saying and if you could talk about what happened to your wife To your brother we had interviewed years ago. Hassan's tuna who also disappeared and you your wife and Zaituna and her husband disappeared together. Explain who they are well. It's Amira Real my weather. My wife was up for four years between Nineteen Nineteen eighty-seven on nine one time. I was my son's Gel. A if this will both have us where members of communist to who different communist partisans but opposite arranging was an activist and chew has windows on. WHO's very well? Yeah no and respected human rights activist in Dumont Amazon's husband done our friend and human rights activist another matter who's also report on. They objected most probably by journalists landholders Salafi military formation in Douma they are but now government in the northern part of Syria. We now fortunately we don't now Their freight to us this happened. Let me just say something about the context of this happened. After the chemical massacre in August two thousand was on seventeen and after the deal to as a gift to a nearly landless organizations and it created a paranoia annoying atmosphere everywhere and Syria so they where at the end of an independent people to a woman ended ended one without without supporters with our aren't where politically active against the regime where extremely visible and the ad that Jim and which was besieged completely decision by the and my brother and other friends who are dash in the same year by the way in the summer of two thousand fifteen your Italian religious and the Syrian. Who Was Thomas? Hillary pollution was abducted on my doctor on my friend was so it was part of this extremely inhuman situation that was inflicted on Syria and many criminal organizations that appeared the country having shop and is only one of the main thing is this other that has the Orange County for fifty years. Now which is one half of the whole history of Syria. Well we certainly they. Yes seen link to the article your most recent piece headlined. The love of my life disappeared six years ago but still I cling cling to hope as we turn now to our next guest us. Oh Lubna you are a Syrian of writer and activist. I Your response to this latest Offensive the ongoing offensive in it Lib. And what the situation is of these civilians there are seventy six percent of the population. There is a civilian population. Turkey has largely closed. Its borders where are these people to go. Thank you so much for having me but before I as her this question I think it's very important to explain to your audience. Why the Swish it left today? Today is pretty difficult and unique at the same time it live. is on the Syrian province. Today that is outside the government controlled a not safeguarded by a foreign power such as the US or Turkey. which kind of puts again? As I I mentioned before kind of puts us in a difficult situation in the past years Most of the rebel held areas. That had to have fallen back under the Syrian government control So many people who have been living in this rebel-held held areas especially those who feared persecution of this young government have fled to adding more than four hundred thousand to the pre existing population of three million. So here we are talking about three millions. Four hundred thousand civilians were stuck in up up today As you mentioned anatomy in the borders have been closed People are on the borders sleeping under olive. Live trees Some people sleeping in their cars and there is no place to go. I mean eastern. Huta you guys were talking with Yes in about when you saw the happened people knew that okay there might. There might be a solution for these people to flee which is but sadly today there is no other for these civilians to flee to This tuition is horrible. And I've I was talking to one of my good friends on New Year's Eve Just to make sure that tees okay now he's safe and he Sadly mentioned that He has been sleeping with his wife and his seven years The old daughter in the car on the Turkish borders and he told me he cannot think of any solution He has been active against the government since two thousand twelve and for him to live to live in A city or to live under the government control is not really possible and it's honestly he just ended the conversation saying that he is considering committing suicide That's insured the solution is horrible and no one one knows what's going to happen very quickly before we conclude I'm has the government. Has Turkey said anything about allowing how in at least some people from it live To come into Turkey to seek refuge. Honestly if you've been following the news recently like Turkey made it clear that they don't want any Syrian refugees anymore. In Turkey we have seen reports of -tations mass deportations of Syrians Being sent back to Syria and And I don't see see I don't think Turkey might welcome any Syrian refugees People have been dying on the borders trying to cross to Turkey to seek refuge. I don't know if I can just add one point If I have time just at one point you were mentioning the HDFS And how the government is saying that Not only to attack radical groups. And I just WANNA say that. Oh it's a it's a Edita Shum. It's one of the radical group's today which is the Syrian government has been using as a justification to attack civilians on. I just I just WanNa say that as I mentioned earlier there's more than three million four hundred thousand civilians and to use as justification indication to attack. Three million civilians is really similar to the logic that Israel loses and Israel and its supporters used to justify their attacks on. I think we should never justify attacks. Just because there is one radical group Well love number. I WanNa thank you so much. For being with us. Syrian writer photographer. Activists who worked in Italy from two thousand twelve to fourteen for Reuters is currently writing her first book about the war in Syria. And we also want to thank you Saleh speaking to us from Turkey When when we come back we go to India where protest against the new anti Muslim citizenship law continued despite the government? Crackdown that's killed. At least twenty. Seven people people stay with us The House cynically thought the guy with garnishments thousand feet thick. They wanted to get your poke gets hotter cer- becky our taking off the off. The luxury yacht up. The Lot of colored light did thought Dottie Talk College with good music by Madera released at at the height of the protests in India video has gone viral. This is democracy now. I'm Amy Goodman. Within their means share. We end today's show in India where the death toll amid the government's crackdown on widespread protests has risen to at least twenty seven people with over a thousand more arrested. The protests are against the controversial controversial controvercial new citizenship law which provides a path to Indian citizenship for undocumented immigrants from Afghanistan Bangladesh Pakistan unless they are Muslim opponents of the law. Say It's a step. Toward the official marginalization of India's two hundred million Muslims paramilitary and police forces were deployed in response response to the protests in Muslim majority districts. In that for the New Delhi and the Internet was shut down for more we go to Mumbai where we're joined via democracy snow video stream by Rana Ube Indian journalist WHO's a global opinions writer for the Washington Post her most recent pieces headlined. India's protests could be a tipping point against authoritarianism. Welcome to democracy. Now explain to me. Oh the longest time I mean. This government's attack on the Muslim minorities which stewed about two hundred fifty million Muslims in the country in the fullest. Five years of Mr Regime. There were lynchings of Muslims slim's on the acquisition of all consuming beef on Allegations that Muslim men are marrying non Muslim woman of the industries. Lease was up a breed of dog whistle off from the premise of the country. From Home Minister of the country and also into deals so the first five years of Mr Maurice Regime was adopted whistle. The sick the second term which has just begun? It's about Ab- reason consolidation additional the Hindu ward and so far those who host Mr Moore these majority views of obeyed passive especially Muslims in the country. They have been very silent. They have not been part of any protests. Despite the fact that the government bringing one Jordanian act off of the in August There was a clampdown in Cushman Special followed by the Supreme Court Judgment in the Bobby Now a a massive temple will be building on the agenda Do Citizenship Ship Amendment Bill in conjunction with National Registry Citizens Ridden every minority from the neighboring area Neighboring country will begin citizenship. That should accept Muslims. Now everything to see it in the Donte isn't a gente decreed a Hindu nation a country which human no longer remain a secular democracy. But for the first time there seems to be an attempt bind citizens of the country are especially Muslims who are out on the streets With symbols of religion they're wearing their skullcaps women in your job stepping out. I mean the produce in Mumbai which is which is largely which is largely ready indifferent MHM city to protest are a severity billion Dr dissed in Mumbai so close to two hundred thousand people by defending reading the constitutional institution of this country are protesting against prime minister. End The homeless. The country is it's a good site. It is a tipping point against Peter Newsham because Mr Moore Audie has driven Muslims of this country to the wall. They have been silent for the last six years. But I think they have chosen not read the silence because Mr Moody is seeking to de-legitimize dead existence or actually make them second class citizens in their own country day the and their forefathers lived this these are the same Muslims who did not sleep would choose India over walkathon in nineteen forty seven during the passion. So there's this everyday humiliation which Muslims in this country with the same and it's happening to see the protests that are happening all over the country. It's August Muslims but also non Muslims was standing in Soldat with them to protect the ready idea of India which we have been celebrating for decades the Ghandi's India which has been nonviolent which celebrates secular traditions of this country The critic of this country which now is is is under threat by the government. You can you explain as you're saying these massive protests all over India That have been taking place. Is there any indication though that the Modi Government is likely to withdraw or modify the Citizenship Amendment Act Act or the NRC or indeed not to push through subsequent proposals like the uniform civil code has has amid shah the interior minister or anyone else in the more. The government responded to the protests by suggesting that they'll compromise not yet involved VAT. The government has tuned in a blind eye to the twenty seven lives that have been lost in the last three weeks itself out of which Twenty Wendy lives twenty murdered in the province of looked Daesh which is ruled. By a chief minister it's become becoming a prestige issue and Mr Moody Dramas show the Prime Minister. The minister did not anticipate this backlash. Because they're seeing a very passive in citizenry which was not objecting to one. Majority block the other being introduced in the country and your parliament so they could push one more bill but did not anticipate debate. This backlash having said that I think the government has decided to reason this out. They are of their Doug. Audience is the majority the Hindu population to whom trying to communicate that we are fighting and people are protesting against armed position to give you the right of how often do supremacy. So I doesn't look like the government is GonNa Roll back up this this act yet. That is immense special on the Indian government the protests APP sustained itself and. That's a great sign. But I don't see them revoking this because the government has decided the reason the salad they're also planning to introduce to more bills population control bill and the Uniform Civil Code. which again is an attack on the Indian minorities? Because there's this misconception exception and as we call it the what's up big information which is being spread by the beach at the end. It's affiliates that Muslims in this country are producing more children than they can do. And they will take over India by twenty fifty an indus- gun fake news has been on the BT machinery they are. They're their leaders. Keep spending keep talking about this and they're tweets and social media so they've decided to basin are entered using two more bills. Oh no one has to wait and see how the protests. Dan Impact the government's decision because they're already taken awhile in form of of their reputat. Where the Chief Minister of what their British said that? Either Jacob Revenge Podesta's and do these later. Twenty Muslims were slaughtered in a Spanish missile night. A police officer is telling the British show that if you want to go to Pakistan which is basically you know you're implying that you don't in Muslims only belong in. They have to protest a students hostel. or which which which which was home two orphans. Two hundred orphans was attacked by police forces. Now the teacher was a Muslim cleric was ran away have five seconds accused trip. Nigga said that is Mr Moore these response to the protests has been a backlash and widens against Muslims in the country and that is a wedding sign at this point in time for the violence and dancing Muslim while in the sponsor riches. Well we will link to your piece. In The Washington Post. India's protests protests Could be a tipping point against authoritarianism. RENAI UBE Indian journalist global opinions writer for The Washington Post. We thank you so much for being with us. I'll be speaking Friday night at the Quad Cinema in New York. After the showing of advocate which has just been shortlisted for an Oscar interviewing the filmmakers. I made me Goodman with nermeen shake happy new year.

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"Welcome. To the audible presented by traderjoes skiing. Joined his always by Bruce Feldman. where? It's early August in the news cycle and college football is so relentless and so nonstop lately that. We came up with a list of topics to talk about on Tuesday by Wednesday the top half of those to bring on new topics and I'm sure by the time you listened to us this something else crazy will happen where to even start pers- how about we start with something that just happened at least as we're taping this STU and that would be that the big ten has unveiled its optimistic conference schedule for the season hoping that they will be able to start the weekend of September fifth. But if they can't there's a lot of flexibility in this calendar for them to push it on the back end. Correct. Yeah, when I first heard a couple of days ago that it was gonNA be September fifth and consider that the SEC has already pushed to September twenty six and the SEC is pushed back the start of training camp and I think I said to you. I didn't I would not have guessed a month ago that the the Sec would-be moving more cautiously than the big ten right you would think they would be the conference that would be full speed ahead. And and you know I think as you and I are sitting right now. I mean this schedule just came out and it starts with a Thursday night game. September. Third. Of Ohio State. Illinois. and. That's a month from today and as I'm seeing hurry now, it's very hard to picture that that's actually going to happen however. Because like you said, they've left open everything from Thanksgiving weekend on. So with in with the back end of this grid, it actually lifts. Four more weeks. In case they need it the Thanksgiving weekend December Fifth December twelve, th December nineteen. So if we get to September third or fifth or whatever, and we're not able to play football, they can easily shift three weeks to the end of the season and they would be starting on September twenty six, the way stew on that Illinois Ohio State opener and it's Adil. Annoy side did a little big ten network Kit Right before me Josh Whitman the Illinois ad was on and he talked about the. Crowd that they're hoping for and he thought it would be somewhere between ten and twelve thousand range, which is about twenty percent capacity, and that's in line with their state guidelines as he put it and I guess because we've watched. I at least I have watched a lot of NBA and baseball and hockey. Now that I'm now gotten used to seeing nobody in the stands and the idea that you might have ten or twelve thousand people there. Is Kinda surprising at this point now obviously, these are. Still, planning for Fifty Texas Sam's going for fifty thousand. I guess it's to me. It's like. I. Think I think to have the Games is is. Is I I can see that more realistically than I can see them having not even not even fifty thousand and even twelve thousand fans in the stands. It's Weird that to me that college football, not a professional sport but college football is is setting itself up to be the one that goes I on a lot of these things. In, and I think when the SEC pushed it back September twenty sixth you know I think it was smart and I think a lot of their reasoning. I know a lot of their reasoning is let's let the NFL. Go first and learn from that and let them be the Guinea pig in terms of how do you safely conduct training camp they will have played you know two or three games by then. The idea that the first you know the first major football game in America would be Ohio State Illinois and that there may be fans there is really bizarre to me but that's the plan right now and look we said this last week when the ACC schedule came out there something exciting about seeing all those helmet grids. What was your initial take I mean first of all obviously Ohio State Michigan in October is the is the the eye-opener I understand the reasoning. In a year where every or no rain's GonNa play in a conference and and just basically everything that that is normal has been blown up doesn't get much against tradition than that. Before we get into the schedule I, think one thing is this initially was going to be announced a day earlier and as the big ten was ready to to on the eve of that, they had like an avalanche of bad news on the Cova Front coming out there was northwestern your Alma Mater had stoppage related to cove it there were significant testing numbers that were coming out I think in Michigan, state and Illinois. There was the story of the Indiana Offensive Lineman Brady. Fini has mom had gone on social media and talked about pretty harrowing experience with him being rushed to the Er in her worried about him having heart issues and I think for a lot of people were like Oh. Yeah. They're eighteen to twenty two. They're going to be fine. I, think that kind of flies in the face of that, and it also makes you wonder how much of these stories are do we not know about if there are more of those and then after you know after that, you had a massive outbreak at rutgers with I think twenty eight players, three staffers. So there's a lot of stuff going on I. Do think you mentioned the SEC before? The big ten seems to be announcing a lot more of their Kovic results and handling of it and as. Has had more of the specifics than I feel like the SEC and some other places have I mean some things have gotten now but I'm not sure they've been announced that as such. Yeah. It's been very frustrating to me that that that. It's been left completely up to the schools whether they wanNA publicize their data or not. The ones that aren't are hiding behind privacy laws that do do not apply nobody's asking for you to identify the names of the players just how many people players have tested positive in the fact that so many schools are doing that tells you they're not concerned about that being a privacy violation, but it's true like we know exactly how many players have percentage of players have tested positive at. Michigan State. Ohio states not doing it. Illinois Penn. state. A lot of those, the SEC off the time I had I can't think of one that has publicized that and that goes hand that's in keeping with how the conference those schools confidence handle injuries or frankly access to their players. You know that I didn't realize this until this week. Georgia has not made a single player available to the media since their bowl ballgame. I. Mean They are. Who knows what's going anything could be going on behind the walls of those. I would have no way of knowing because it's complete. Media freeze out. So you're right. It's like we know. Like things seem kind of bad in the big ten right now in terms of how many schools are dealing with you know Cova crises before all we know the same thing could be happening in another conference and they're just not as Transparent about it but yes, there's A. It's such a weird juxtaposition to one day or reading about rutgers having twenty eight players having tested positive now or in quarantine and You know having a shutdown practice for two weeks and then two days later it's here's our grid game. Start September. Third rutgers is going to be hosting Nebraska that week. you know the biggest thing is and I wrote about this my mailbag. In order for that to happen. I mean, they've had several programs now have to bit Michigan State Rutgers have had to shut down for two weeks. Right? They had to quarantine the whole team for two weeks. If that happens in training camp, which starts for most of the schools. This weekend they're not gonNA start the season starts it starts to get some of them starts tomorrow for Ohio. State it starts tomorrow for other teams of starts Friday. So mean. You get twenty five practice days and they're going to have. Twenty nine days to do it, and if they had to shut if they get an outbreak and after shutdown for two weeks. You you just you can't start the season because you know you talk about health and safety having those players try to play a game having. had. The you know necessary acclimation period. You just can't do that, and so you know that's why they built the schedule. The way they did if they had to, they could move Ohio states first two games to. Last week in November first week in December four, we get into the actual schedule because I do want to touch on that for a bit. I WanNa ask you something that that is on me even if it comes up every now and then over the course of a day with everything going on came eight I thought about it actually when you were talking a second ago which was. It's we're not far from mid August right now it's August August fifth as we're taping this right and I think you know when you're a little kid and you're in school, you wrote the date down on whatever paper you're writing you know and so I think you were I think a lot of us maybe maybe people with more quote unquote grown up jobs aren't used to dealing with Oh today is November thirteenth. Oh today is February whatever I think because of the pandemic not only are like the days of the week start to blur together by like part of me is still not A. Know. Still kind of processing where we are in the calendar meaning. World. Literally less than a month. Now away from the first big ten football game on the schedule I have no idea. You know where this is in terms of my own work, you know in terms of will I be? You know we'll. We'll Mike Ruby working one of these games I would assume. So but I don't know this yet. and so that's the part where I think I'm still kind of processing. As we're moving forward with this as moving forward fast you know and so. You know transitioning from that I. Mean I'm looking at this a going. Okay. On first glance Wisconsin got a really really favourable draw here they got no Penn State no Ohio state and their crossover game is rutgers. So that's pretty good and then you look on the flipside. I'm like man if I'm Maryland I'm not thrilled I opened Iowa. And in the crossover you get Wisconsin and Minnesota those are probably the three best teams in the West right and then. Indiana who we were just talking about a second ago they went from having three groups of fives in addition to Wisconsin in the month of September one of those groups of five. Is Yukon who's not even going to be playing college football this year, and instead now they're going to end up with road trips to Wisconsin and Ohio state, and they get a visit from Penn State all the month of September. That's you know I'd much rather be Wisconsin than I would rather be Indiana and Maryland right now. How crazy is it that? You said you you like me playing football this year as almost like as an aside like in any other year, a program announced it was cancelling its season FBI program. It would be the story of all stories and in in right now it's like, oh, it's Wednesday. That's one of eight gazillion things that has happened. Today's Yukon announced they're canceling their season. saying that it's COVID concerns which I'm sure it is but also I mean they'd almost their whole schedule They had lost almost their whole schedule due to these conferences going to conference only games. Also just to what you were saying before about you know your our calendars or off. I definitely get the sense from. from our readers that people are not in. August fourth we would be August third August fourth. We would be full blown season preview mood. Standings, Heisman Watch you know the polls coming out all that stuff. People aren't there right now they're now maybe all these schedule announcements will will be the thing that that turns it. But. We're not seeing much reaction to season preview type content and my mail bag when I asked for questions they're all about. Is the season going to happen what would have to happen for the season to happen what happens if a team loses fifteen players the week of the game? Not Much? Well, how do you think this team's going to do this year or do you think about this team's quarterback battle? So we're all just in this weird state of limbo I would like to know how they decided. who gets each crossover opponent because? Somebody had to get Ohio state and its perdue and I know purdue had that huge upset of them a couple of years ago. But in general like you, you took the foreign eighteen, you gave Mojo state northwestern three nine last year you gave them Michigan like if this were the nfl you would do with the would be giving the best teams. The other best teams this is like a reverse thing. You. Know Wisconsin picked up rutgers Wisconsin the team that won the division last year picked up the worst team in the conference. It's like it's like Barry Alvarez slating team schedule vary over us. Good to be very race. Yeah. Yeah it's interesting Ten game conference schedule. I mean, if we can pull it off, it's going to be super exciting. You know there are there is no. You're not starting off September with a bunch Mack games, FCS. Games you're starting with conference on conference and I guess what? That I mean Ohio? State. Illinois's the notable game a week one because it'll be first and features Ohio state and you know there are as of now a couple big twelve teams playing August twenty ninth. How crazy is that? By the way later, this month, we're gonNA going some football games, but you know Ohio State Illinois will basically be like the start of the the official start of the college football season What else stands out that first week you've got. Of the matchups. Yeah. Indiana Wisconsin on a Friday Night Indiana you know improving program there's not like any blockbusters that week but then you get a week to September twelfth and you know the Little Brown Jug Medicine Minnesota, can Minnesota know that without Rashad Bateman? You know have the kind of season. They had last year you've got now penn state gets to play in Pesky Indiana. So you know with each week it's like these are games that. You probably normally be played on in October you'd barely noticed them 'cause there's other bigger games going on but if the other conferences are going later and right now the ACC is planning to go earlier but the big twelve said, they're not starting conference play till the Twelfth Nineteen like is basically college football season's going to be big ten season for the physical can start then you know. That's the plan. That's the plan as of now I mean if I had to guess. I. Some of these, some if not, all of these games will get pushed later. But who knows for months I just kept thinking I would have thought by now if you'd asked me three months ago, two months ago a month ago I would assume that by August third. We would have had everything would be on hold and with an assumption that were not even opening training camp. We're GONNA start the season seat. Hope things get better and start the season. Later, in September or early, October never in a million years what I've guessed that. Yes, we have ten game schedules. There's been modified schedules but that. One of the major causes to open right on time, which would you be more surprised about the which which to me is. The that there will be crowds or do you think that they'll be games? Yeah. I mean obviously it's a slippery slope but I mean crowds I think that he. You. Know it still feels like I use this expression, our group Taxila. I could see it feels like kind of threading a needle here but it's the crowd part that I'm like man I just don't see how if you if you're not doing it in other sports, how colleges are going to feel like they can do it. Act to the PODCAST SECOND BUT FIRST BRUCE Chicken ribs chicken that tastes like ribs and it really does right and one of the best things about it. It is healthy barbecue and what does that mean? 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So I mean I guess I get the the holding out hope part, I just are they actually GonNa go through with it? Now we could get into I, don't really want to. We get into whole thing about. Well, you know it's outdoors so far. All indications are big outdoor events are lot safer than big indoor events and you know if the right social distancing protocols, people wearing masks they get maybe it is totally safe to do it, but it's a it's a big. responsibility to take on like if you're Illinois and you bring those twelve thousand people and then three weeks later, there's been an enormous spike in Cova cases in champagne like do you really want that that? that. EARN. Ability on. Yeah. It's. It's a lot lot to sift through like I told to you I do not envy eighties or or college presidents right now and You know just like it just feels like a lot of two steps forward one step back and sometimes feels like one step forward two steps back but. I feel like a lot of the decision makers. Don't want to be the decision makers and they're just waiting for somebody to tell them what to do leg. In some cases I know Syracuse rutgers like some their states have already said like, sorry, no spectators at any sporting events. So they didn't have to make that decision that decision was made for them. But like the NCAA kept punting down the decisions on championships further and further down the road. It's like they want somebody to i. saw balls be several times say. Somebody tells US otherwise you know we're we're planning to proceed, and then you're like who is this somebody like you're the commissioner? Who is this somebody that you're waiting to tell you what to do It's It's GotTa Give Bill, connerly credit, but like for this assertion or the statement but basically, there have been all of these. Issues with the leadership of college sports didn't start overnight. It's a very. Fragile. An outdated model, and it's all being exposed right now like everything that's wrong with the way college athletics is Ron is just. As. Just all come to a head. Because of the challenges, the pandemic putting on it. And you know one of an in a big way that's coming out and it has come out in the last week is what we're seeing with the PAC twelve united. Players Movement. Now, the big ten has one you know I mean for the entire history of the sport players didn't really have a voice they haven't really had any input in the protocols that their schools are putting in place to handle this, and now that we're kind of down to the eleventh, our guys are starting to brace concerns and in the PAC twelve gay guys are threatening to opt out of the season if they don't have Sirloin segues to. Veteran. Move. Well, we knew we wanted to talk about it. So look it's been three days or so since our story went up the right after the after the Players Tribune. Post on what their demands are and the big ten players under big ten united I. Say they followed suit because there were. Seemed to be much Mostly more manageable, but there was less. Less of a head-turner thing like fifty, fifty revenue split kind of thing, and they're much more specifically about their concerns about Kobe protection whereas the PAC twelve one is basically we want you to blow up the entire structure of financial structure of college sports and if you can't do it by the start of the season, we're not we're not gonNA play. Right, and the challenge on the on that one is, and this isn't mentioned in our store. Athletic is the people who are in the process trying to determine how big and how strong this movement. It's one thing for a penny sewell to to re tweet or tweet out a Hashtag and say he supports is his teammates look Jake Bentley who's a started his career in the SEC now is at Utah he was he tweeted out a screen shot of him basically saying I support my teammates but I want I need to play and I saw that I think allies molden really good player at Washington defensive back. He made a I thought very Reasonable but just a strong strong comments about it that I think. Resonated with a lot of people where it's like, yes, we understand there's some real issues here but the you know the opt out is probably not going to be the play for a lot of people as we talked about our story, the Guy Really at the center, the driving force behind this in the PAC twelve Ra- Mogi Huma He was the one who is attached to the Kain Colter unionization movement at northwestern I. Don't know how many years ago six years ago fourteen. Yes. Six years ago as well as the UCLA story that the La Times ended up going with about two months ago where his process I think is. I don't know I. Think it's sometimes it gets to be a little murky for people determine how involved it is, and as I heard from some coaches who were talked to their players, it was a lotto while we're Mogi says this or you know those kinds of things about how they're gonNA. Know How they're gonNA, make their demands and what what their expectations are and I think now for Larry Scott and the leadership and his conference, the PAC twelve I think they have to you know I'm sure they're taking it seriously but there's a lot to unpack there. So let's take a step back and try to explain this because I I'm not gonNA put assume that everybody listening to this read the whole pack twelve letter or are article. Detailing how it all came about on Sunday I talked to Jake Kerr hand who is fifth year senior offensive Lineman for cal in one of the original. Genesis for all this started basically with him in a few cal teammates who. Were concerned. You know. Concerned about their safety this upcoming coming season started talking about it amongst themselves. then. They started reaching out to you know you guys have played other one of the elephants Lyman started his career Oregon. You guys have played with other guys at high school. So they started reaching out to players at other schools organ. I think was the first one and they're like, yeah, we have the same concerns and also like you know the. We want to, we're going to address this. We should also address racial justice and everything that's been A. At the forefront since George Floyd and Brianna Taylor, and you see the pro leagues that have come back have. Have taken that head on I mean you can't watching NBA game and not see the messages on the players Jerseys and black lives matter on the court At some point. So between them reaching out to players, other schools, the from I understand that that became soon calls with you at least one player at the other schools. And eventually it would more to. A group chats and I group tax. Group. At apps with hundreds of players. At some point in their remortgage huma got involved. Ra- Mogi has been pretty much the most prominence. College athlete rights advocate since the early two thousands and anytime Congress has a hearing about the these things they call him to testify anytime the media writes about these things they call to quote him. If I'm a college player looking to organize some sort of moving like this I would call him to. But as you alluded to earlier, he one of his methods is he he takes these things in he I I want to say exaggerates, but he he's he's kind of. He has tactics in one of those is to take these opportunities because they don't come up very often and more for them into something that was maybe bigger than what the players originally intended, and so by the time this, you know this played out over the span of a month and by the time that letter went out on the Players Tribune it now included everything from we we demand fifty fifty share of all the revenue Larry. Scott should take a huge pay cut You know things that that are noble an admirable but completely unrealistic and I think it's frankly unfortunate that they did all that because it took away from their main message the big ten one that came out today was very narrowly focused on covid nineteen concerns, and frankly a lot of that stuff some of that stuff commerce already addressed and some of it is probably not take that much for them to to reach a compromise with them on it whereas the PAC twelve one. We, put that story out and all of the responses and all the backlash was entirely about the revenue sharing part nothing about coup had nothing about racial justice it's. One of those things where there's a tremendous disconnect between sports writer twitter where I think I don't think it's a stretch to say that almost everybody who covers this sport is very much. In favor of the athletes being paid and You know just just. There's no issue that they're more aligned on that. Versus the general public is much more split the people listening to this right now, I'm sure are very split. A lot of people feel like, Hey, I had to pay my way through college is a huge They get they get their their whole education paid for. That's a huge huge. Benefit. I don't think they should be asking for even more. You know I could argue the opposite side of that. But the point is the public's very split on it, and so they made that issue much more volatile by going there. So that makes sense. It does make sense. A gave people who probably already skeptical more reason to be dismissive. Because I do think that everybody every player in athletics should be very concerned right now about whether the schools are doing. Are GonNa to be able to like, they can't prevent anybody from getting covid nineteen but are they taking the best possible steps to mitigate it and we had a pretty ugly. Some pretty ugly allegations of a school not doing that. Colorado state which we should get into as well where. Some of the things described in their if they could be happening other schools, we don't know if they are. I would be terrified to be a college football player right now because. You know if if a position coach is telling you not to report your symptoms because we can't afford to have more players lost a quarantine I mean it's disgusting and. And and it's that kind of thing that you were I really feel for the players they don't have a union to negotiate these things and there is no. Centralized. Organization, like there is in the pros I mean the pros you know baseball say what you will about their plan and how poorly is going right now. But there was a union and they agreed to that plan with the owners. There's no such thing in college sports, and so I, do think that they have a legitimate point there that gets lost as soon as you bring up pay for play. Back to the podcast in a second. But first a word about our fact artifacts set you up with one of their professional interviewers to capture stories but important people things in your life think of it like a podcast episode about whatever you want with artifact you capture family history with parents and grandparents talk about friends and family as a birthday wedding anniversary gift with how they've made a difference in your life and share some hilarious stories Bruce and I just this week recorded our first artifact in we. 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For Current Colorado state players on twitter refuted it the S I? Had A pretty dismissive statement. But it's clear at this point they are. They are taking it very seriously some of these details So I'll just give details here Steve. Adagio. So they basically, they had to shut down workouts because so many players tested positive CDC recommendations that they should shut it down for fourteen days. However, a source who attended the meeting twenty, espn, I can confirm he said that although the CDC recommends fourteen days, we're going to try to come back early another person who tended meeting said he's making it sound like depending on the test results he wants to get back to fourteen days. It's like is that even possible? multiple sources said disregarding cove nineteen protocols as part of an unsettling and toxic pattern colorado state. In some examples extended beyond the football program. They also shared emails and text messages to back up their claims there was a volleyball player who Who tested positive? Who'd had a breakfast with three other players and they weren't wearing masks and after she tested positive. Forever reason they didn't quarantine the other players. They say that the football players have been treated differently when football players attended a July party with a female athlete who tested positive the other female athletes who attended the party Rasta quarantine, but the male athletes on the football team were not. And then you know you've got a guy who says that one of his teammates was. Showing, symptoms you know he's right next to a practice. He's showing symptoms and the guy though kept practicing he was too scared to tell the coaching staff. He didn't want you know lose playing time. It's every worst nightmare and again, these are allegations the school investigate it. It's true. It's like every nightmare. You could possibly have about a football program not taking this seriously enough what things that I noticed ESPN story by Myron, medcalf? and I think that story posted after the. A lot of the a bunch of the Colorado state players went on social media said, it was not true at least the earlier story and I thought one thing that at least I notice was wasn't just coaches was just players and a staffer. It was also a sports meet as medicine staffer that they had said told the ESPN. About the Athletic Department leaders discouraging athletes. The to me, the sports medicine component of that not say that the players words don't matter but I just think that that probably makes a stronger case for this and look we'll have to wait and see what's going to happen in this investigation but. This is Stephen. Dot Co he he just got there. He's got some transfers there but I don't know. Clearly, if if you're Colorado state I, mean this is the last thing you want right now is, is that because all of a sudden now you become the face of of this part of it where you know there's been. There was some other some comments made by a player at a small, a lower division school talking about not feeling safe on on the protocols at the at the. He was at and the program he was involved in. So I mean but now you have Colorado state and A. Well. It's really well known head coach in the middle of it right now. And we're this could be going on elsewhere I mean because the media is completely frozen out right now for safety reasons I mean he's going to have. You know people enter their bubble basically have reporters come to practice not knowing if they've been tested or if they've been wearing a mask or any of that. Anything could be going on these programs. We have to take their word for it that they're following these protocols and I think that that that's going to raise alarm the NCAA takes a lot of criticism rightfully. So but let's give him credit. For one thing they put out a press release, Wednesday morning outlining some new requirements and one of the requirements initiatives, and one of them is they've set up of confidential phone number and email for athletes or their parents to report what they believe violations of schools violating covid nineteen protocols, I think that's. Essential. Given what we're going through right now. And of course we're seeing. We're seeing players start to opt out I. don't think that's surprising I mean it is no one of the demands and both the PAC twelve in the big ten letter and the NCAA flat out addressed it today. A player cannot who chooses to opt out for over covid nineteen concerns cannot have their scholarship taken away their scholarship is protected, and so we're starting to see some players opt out. Some of them are guys you wouldn't have heard of, but some of them are the top, some of the top draft prospects for twenty, twenty, one and. You know I guess we're starting to wonder like how far is going GonNa go how many? season. If we're putting together a preseason all-america team, we'd have to keep revising it because we've already lost several guys have been on there. Right even know we'd mentioned Reshad Bateman from Minnesota. There's been a report that as of now is not been made official about Michael Parsons from Penn State. Opting out to get ready for the draft Jacob Panel, Schuch who's a really good lineman at Michigan State. He is his really announce that he's choosing to redshirt this year out of safety reasons related to covid nineteen and plans to finish his senior year in twenty twenty one. So that was a little bit of different Spin I suspect we'll see more players opting out now on the flip side of that Jawara Chase from Lsu's best receiver in the country he is told reporters that he staying he's playing this year. A couple of the Ohio state high profile guys just fields for one. He said he was playing and you know we'll see we'll see if there's more momentum to this One of these came up in my. Potential Spring story that I did talking to coaches about whether they thought if a spring had the spring season, it had to happen about how many of their players did they think they lose? I'm curious if this is this is an element that coaches are worried about for the fall, which is all right. I? May play a couple of games but then if I Play pretty well, I'm GONNA, shut it down at some point during the course of the year and kind of reduce my risk as much as possible that obviously remains to be seen. But that was I. Know some concern for some coaches that I talked to about a spring season if it came to that I mean first of all, it's important to note. Most College. Football players WANNA play. I mean the guys were opting out or getting the headlines but? It you know I don't think we reach your CCI be considered surprising. The Justin field is GonNa play this season right? I mean. You only get a certain amount of years to play college football, and maybe you feel like your school is doing i. think probably a lot of guys most guys feel like their school is doing everything possible to mitigate the risk. So they WANNA play. But that being said, I'm sure all the players who are draft eligible and Be. Feel reasonably certain they're going to go very high have agents in their telling them no no, no. Shut it down. Now we'll pay for your training. One affect your draft stock and when you've got that in years suddenly becomes very tough decision. Does. Look at the Social Media Echo Chamber probably will only add to that. So so let's see where that door that's GONNA head. So many so many things going on right now stu. And I think that it's important. You know people have asked from the early stages of this like what you think will be the lasting effects of you know some of the things that are taking place now because of the pandemic that might stick around after we get back Africa outer which by the way, I no longer use the phrase back to normal because who knows what normal is gonNa look like we're going backward you remember how quick Leonard Fournette and Christian McCaffrey. High season that would have been twenty sixteen. Decided to skip the ballgame remember how jarring that was like Oh my gosh you know people suggesting that their stock was going to plummet because they weren't good teammates, mates, etcetera etcetera. How quickly that became completely normalized to the point where I feel like last bowl season. Derrick Brown from Auburn was like, what are you doing? You're playing in the outback bowl that's how quickly that. became a norm. I could see this becoming a norm pandemic or not. You know guys concerned about injury risks playing two seasons, and then saying, you know what? I'm going to be a top ten pick or top twenty pick I'm gonNA take this year off mount risk injury and and start training for the draft. Now, they still have insurance policies are still the the SAF fund where players are schools can still provide the money for the insurance for loss of value insurance so that that's still exists out there and I my understanding is the players who even have the insurance but are going to opt out they will still be covered. assuming that you know that risk of injury and training or anything like that, but it's were. Definitely uncharted waters with all this. Yeah. I gotta say I'm I'm concerned you know we've been covering the sport for as long as we have, and you've always you know you take for granted extremely Popular Sport It's exciting millions of people joy it and yeah, you have to. There's a little bit of like compartmentalizing you have to do when some of the uglier things that happen we there's corruption we know there's cheating. We've had a couple truly truly awful situations like Jerry Sandusky Baylor sexual scandal in US kind of have to compartmentalize or he would lose faith in the institution entirely but I'm now I'm concerned that. College football is going to be. Affected by this for a long time. The money will come back. It's not that. just so many things have have been exposed. So many fractures have been exposed and maybe it'll be for the good. You know maybe I, I don't think there's anything bad about players finding their voice and some of the changes they've affected I mean a Mississippi state running back helped get the Mississippi state flag changed something that many people in a state have been fighting for for decades in never thought would happen. That's a good thing. The bad thing is. The terrible leadership that is taking place right now in the in the fact that the NCAA has been exposed as being completely inapt and The the group of five just being completely left in the dust right now struggling to fill out their schedules. This isn't just going to all. You're not going to wave a wand and I'll go back to normal because there's a Kobe. Vaccine it's GonNa. There's GonNa be some scars from this that are GonNa take some time to heal. It's do where do you want to hear something more positive? People get on me for not saying the good news enough. That was a very depressing road. I just went down. Let's talk about something positive. What have you go? Well, because this is a college football podcast. Obviously, we're like knee deep in college football and and and things aren't going so well in that sport that being said the other night. I. Sat on my couch and watch the Lakers jazz game in August. and. It was great. You mentioned earlier there's no fans but they have the you know it sounds like a jazz home game and. Anthony Davis was going off and That sport is six is is succeeding like we're gonNA knock on wood, but it sure seems like we're going to have an NBA playoffs in an NBA finals. It is doable for the sports that are in a bubble and I just as I'm watching it, I just wanted to stop for a minute acknowledged that you know we had no sports for four or five months and it was awful and now like we've got NBA back, we've got baseball back. If you're got NHL back if you're a soccer fan, there's been no shortage of soccer to watch recently and knock on Wood Web College football nfl tomorrow. So like I know that in the grand scheme of things, this isn't the most important thing in the in the in the country coming back but sports is very important to a of people and it's it's It's very It's something that gives us a lot of joy and like. I guess it's all always saying, don't take it for granted I did not take for granted the fact that I could watch an NBA game the other night. No and I mean look I feel like I've watched more hockey in the last week than I probably did in the previous year and I watched a lot of baseball and it's been great and honestly I fans are no fans I think you know it's been fun. I watched a ton NBA and. So the idea that we could get football the sport we love the most back soon is is exciting on that front and I feel like. You know at this point it's just like, okay you know we just keep our fingers crossed and hopefully we can get it and keep it like honestly I think that with baseball when you see the numbers with the marlins and then the numbers with with the cardinals and just let's keep everything on track but then you get to see a moments like you know the mookie Betts throw from basically the corner all the way. To nail runner at third base and you're you know you're just like man, these guys were amazing. What they do it's glass. It's good to get a chance to to see them what makes them so special I'm so hopefully, we'll get more moments of that and like you said, enjoy which enjoy what you got back. Now because like you said, it's been a while since we had any kind of sports beyond maybe the random golf. Golf Tournament or you have card. So what's been the breakdown Gimme percent of which sport even watching the most. So I watched the probably the most NBA, but I've watched at least a baseball game every day and what I've done in the last couple of nights I watch hockey late night I'll be honest I probably didn't know enough about Connor mcdavid until just watching the oilers the last couple of days and I know for people who are hockey fans alike, how do you not know how great that guy is but there was just some stuff we've just watch it and it's just like you see how great some of these guys are and. I'll be honest like I didn't pay attention going in to know what the playoff series we're going to be like, and so I'm trying to get up to speed on that. But I've watched a lot of it and which is a big change because I wasn't watching any news about the only thing I was watching here beyond helping my kids watch cartoons was was like a lot a lot of hgtv before the sports came back. So I'm glad they're back. And the good news for me is that tomorrow Thursday I'm actually for the first time in twenty twenty actually going somewhere for mini vacation a getting out of the house getting out of our media confines and Now. It's not getting on a plane short drive but like that's normalcy to me to to actually take some time off in the summer and I'm sure the whole college football will implode in the four days on. I'm gone but you know again you got to do it sometime. So looking forward to that. All right and as always next week, we'll get into the mailbox. We will so. We would like to I mean if college football could slow down a little bit and we could get some questions that would be nice. You can send them to the Ottawa pottage mail DOT COM. Elsa catchy. PSALMIST. Income.

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Tales From the Barside  Episode 11 Karaoke Fun!

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Tales From the Barside Episode 11 Karaoke Fun!

"You're listening to the PODCAST DETROIT visit. WWW dot I'd passed the Troy Dot Com for more information. Rotten slow dreary night behind the bar and I was still hung over as usual. Time was crawling by slower than a slug stuck can hot tar. The door swung open and grimaced at the thought of putting on the act for some poor schmo looking at around his own sorrows in this stinking joint. That's what I looked up and saw her. She had a look in her eyes. TOLD ME THIRTY BLONDE HAIR wasn't the dirtiest thing about her. She has to find a good. Tom Collins Collins so I rolled my eyes exhales deeply for sliding shot a warm. Janet dented can of seven up. She winked and smiled. And said never minds slick Gimme a big shot of that wild Turkey gap behind there and tell me a funny story for one for yourself too. I don't want to shrink alone tonight. She brought at those. smokey grey is up and locked on mine. I knew I didn't stand a chance. I wasn't sure my liver. Take another six weeks bender with this crazy dame but after she worked me over and the beer with that night I said the hell with it. Let's ride this train to the last stop. Maybe it was just another. Never ending. Series raced tales from the bar side. Hello and welcome back to another fresh episode of till's from the bar side as always I'm here with me. Hi I got today off there. And then I'm it's me Lauren. Obviously and then I've to really really awesome people to my favorite people are on with us and they're very good friends with Romeo and I and that is Jordan and Andy was Welcome guys this year in the studio. Now you're in our little cave and get to see see how the magic happens like a pre shots early. Quitting sounds like a grand idea. Start to show off with shots Shoshana. Ah Here's my microphone. Feels super close to my face. Smell a beer. Sorry I was taking shot. Did you did their singers song. Piano man song tonight. Okay so we're coming off of our weekend and how was yours. How was it Very stabby I felt like stabbing people So steady yeah. It's it's never good idea to worker amid double on like a busy Saturday. I just don't do well with them anymore. I'm too old for this crap. You know what I mean. You can't do a double on Saturday. I feel like that's fair because you're like it's morning and at night so I had to be there at noon and I got there at noon and there was no reason for me to be there at noon. I was really you guys get called me and been like coming at to come in at four or something like that and then but then I was on at four and with the idea that like they over scheduled and I would be cut at some point right but so it turns from Restaurant Tonight Club real quick on Saturday night. Probably around nine o'clock or whatever where'd the DJ's plan like the same track over and over and over again they'd plays every weekend and it's all top forty music as I can't stand and all vodka soda drinkers. Come out to play and you know like we only have so many glassware for that style of drink for a cocktail drink like that. We've got a million different kinds of glass where I think I've talked about this before but the The regular cocktail glass. We've only got so many of them so we at the at the main bar. We immediately run out immediately like within an hour. You're out of glassware. There's just no last word to to make all these drinks and you know the car are like feeding frenzy trying to get their drinks and stuff like that and you don't have any glassware. It's super frustrating super frustrating. It's this I'm like. Why am I doing this? Why am I like I? I know the money is decent. You gotTa work Saturday night to make the money but it's just so why don't you just buy more glass. It's not even about that. They don't have room to store the glassware bar. Yeah it's just just a dumb huge. They like accommodate for that one thousand square feet. It didn't you didn't build good glass racks or I. It's just it just makes you WANNA rip. Your hair wasn't well versed in the bar. Now part now whoever whoever designed it was like one hundred percent dip shit talks. Excuse me yeah it. It does and so so yeah. It was kind of a frustrating week and then Sunday was. I had to be back at eight thirty in the morning on Sunday for open and zero customers like all day made like forty bucks or something soda. So yeah it was. It was one of those kind of weeks rare so for me. I was like on the complete opposite side of that scale like we had the Prince Party at my work. Oh my God shuker commit is huge like we sell I. I think we sold last. I knew before we open doors that they had sold over five hundred tickets so we knew that it was going to be pretty rammed and the weird part about it was that like it was really really busy like there. Were a fuck Tana people there but they weren't really drinking that much like you were busy the entire night. I was like walking around and undoing thing all night but it was like not as out of control as I thought it was going to be. People weren't there to get hammered rights and then Saturday night. We had a lot of people there. It wasn't nearly as many people as the Prince Party but we were fucking rammed the entire time like so so busy. We didn't stop at all until like one forty five. I could actually like go. have a cigarette break or something I mean it was so it was insane. Slowdown lowdown kids. Good weekend. It was not what I expected. Let's good. I knew that the prints party was going to be busy but I did not expect next two busy but it was pretty good. It was our first busy bassy Saturday since the new year. You know typical slow January that we talked about a couple of weeks ago. I must be that busy because at the the end of the month which you know like rent like people have to pay off all bunch of Shit and stuff so I really didn't think it was going to be that busy but it was brand lucrative. Good glad high fives five just frustrating and stuff and like you know contemplating my life's choices. And what the hell am I doing a place. That's like this you know. I really need to be at a bar where it's twelve to fifteen seats. You know maybe twenty and I'm just talking to people out out and talk to your people all that stuff. That's always Nice I. It's it's the writings on the wall. It's time time to move on. It's time to go searching for another thing and then like I. I'm not scheduled on Mondays. I Have Mondays off. I could do my job right. And this is part of it and Mondays podcasting day. And they're like Oh. There's a mandatory meeting for like two hours. We're going to test you on all the drinks on a Monday and I'm like why can't make getting there like we'll talk to the manager and I'm like or I could just not show up and not be on the schedule anymore and I'd be okay with that you bonus home. Watch me walking out the door. Another really fun job is a perfect segue for like the the you know. Having to talk to people in stop for sure is being Karaoke. How like art gas-guzzling Jordan currently is working? There's a karaoke host and she is very good at what she does Jordan. Would you like to tell us a little bit about what you do. I get get paid to sing drink and look cute and make people happy. That's always also to deal with your average karaoke drunk. And what do you think is like the hardest part about being a karaoke yo slow. The Banter Inbetween began to read the crowd on. What like what what is going? Well what is not going. Well like some of the and like trying to differentiate between like some of the bar members are GonNa wind classic rock while the other ones are are GonNa want top forty. How do you put all this together without making your seem completely disjointed? Do you ever like I have a problem with having to pick the music when it comes to like. You're inside of a bar where like everyone listens to country. Let's say and then someone wants to like single bunch bunch of metal. Absolutely all right. I gotta jump in on that. It's actually kind of funny because we have showed up at country bars and then all of a sudden they're rock bar. You're like Oh hey by the way though we're gonNA bring you people and they are going to drink making your money exactly. The Romy likes to do Karaoke I love to do Karaoke Syracuse one of my favorite things ever and and I never understood people were like I hate carry. Are you kidding me. It's so much fun. It's a double edged sword. Though 'cause I mean so you have me I got my start. I think I was twenty years old. I started my own business business in California and I after doing it for eleven years. It's like Whoa Whoa. There's just so so many songs will come on. You know you're like all right cool to go have a smoke break. I bet there's like a billion songs that it's just annoying to hear this point piano man. Yeah totally totally because nobody does it. Right nice call back to the podcast. Every everybody ruins that song when they sing it. It's it's not an easy thing I did did it. I did it last night. Actually hanging out with my son and we've got Karaoke at my place and I get to do free there so it's like you get your own little private karaoke room and I was like I'll do piano man. I was like. Oh Oh yeah. That's tough the saying man. You GotTa get you gotTa have the range and try to do it Kind of lounge style. Hey doesn't really come off that way but it's one that like you really need to belt it out. You know that's true. I think it was a couple of weeks ago. We were down at at a place and somebody was trying to do it and they were like dude no phone but you still have to kind of project a little bit yeah. You can't shy without one elven. That's the hardest those people that that they're like. Yeah I want to Sing Karaoke. Not that they're bad. Oh He makes me soon. Good make me Komo. put the volume of turn the volume up. Turn the volume up. Because they're speaking like this. He's not singing and I've still got. I've got the microphone all the way. The fuck up the feedback. You're not having a cup of tea with grandma you know and and being nice and quiet you gotta sing. GotTa microphone away from my mouth. I pull the microphone away from my mouth alive because when I'm saying like plastic man I get really awkward like when you have like a microphone. That doesn't have a stand because I think that a decent insinger and I go up there and I sing and I like you know can like get out of my shell and kind of start singing really well. But then I'm like standing there like playing with something in my pocket or like Kinda just rocking back and forth. Because I'm not a chauffeur's is how hard it is to be a front man for a Pan With no guitar with no guitar near hand how you GonNa Look Cool Bud ie awkward when I'm doing the voice of an angel. It's it's like a big thing for Jesus has mazing singing voice guys and she has some tunes and her repertoire that she can just absolutely kill. Yeah songs were a beautiful so yeah curiosity when and But like the people who are God awful and that happens every once again and yet they're like the rejects on the American idol thing. That's part man like but it's kind of when you give guys. Oh No it's great for sometimes it's great for the audience but like as a host though you gotta go up there. And even when they're terrible you'll be like all right guys come on. No you got a black lab. The important thing like the job is making sure everybody has a a good time and I mean even those people that are terrible. Do they got up there. Yeah that's true. It's getting up there. I get stage fright like crazy. Sometimes and it's it's like it. It's not easy so anybody that goes up there. And they know that they're not very good and they still go up there. You gotta give him props for Sherbet. I've never had stage fright problems. I was always the kid that was you know in the sense that either the men's room. You know it's cold you can't go no no stage writing in bed. That's just whiskey. I blame on whiskey. It's not stayed for. I believe give me I want to be here. I want to be doing this thing but now the whiskey says now and so you know that's my little. PSA for the week. Don't drink too much with coaching a busy stage fright. It's a real thing on a microphone. I'm totally comfortable. I hosted Karaoke for seven years so very similar to what you guys did. You know it's like here on a microphone in a bar. Full of people and your job is to entertain and make people laugh you talk radio moisture shirlow face for radio two uh-huh and confirm years in and I'm still them every time every time. I hosted a new bar my first song the new bar. I am shaking like a leaf. Oh yes single type seven years later and I do it multiple times a week but I will still take it over singing name for children because I did that once this year and that was the most God. I didn't even think children how terrible that would be. They are honest West Virginia singing in front of children and I had to sing a Disney song at Disneyworld. Oh my all my you can see me shaking in the video. Yeah it's that good like I was terrified. I would be to talk that I get a little nervous if I mess up on the song if I'm singing and song and I screwed up and missile align or I'm Librarian Rasa my song. Well sure that will be like a little warm cheeks flushed and stuff like that but for the most part. I'm like Yeah Ed give me that microphone. Hey I'm here to entertain I. I gotTa jump on what she said so in front of kids the craziest Karaoke gig I ever had glad I was propositioned by Good Buddies Dad. And he's like. Hey I get this contract every year. So what do you think about running the girl scout overnight tonight and I'm like oh I am very broke. You GotTa do it. I'm GonNa do it so it was a locking lakeside mall over there over there by the golden whole. Yeah and for anybody that hears this. That's not in Michigan. We have golden book we have a golden butthole yet. We have two giant buttonholes. There's the one downtown to there's like Hart Plaza butthole yards when you're running karaoke for a bunch of tweens for six hours and this is right after rolling in the deep came out. That's that's all you heard. I heard that Song No exaggeration about twenty five times by twenty five different little girls that night. All Them Eh. You can't you can't rip your hair out but the cool thing too. Though I had one one girl come up and she was really humble weird but she did coldplay song that really commercial. No No. That's good but anyway he kinda sounds teenage girls out of the park and that's the cool thing about the job though like when somebody's surprised these really good but they're cool about it like a host like we go to other people shows and yeah yeah people are like we're okay. We're pretty decent singer so so I haven't heard you sing yet right me. Oh I'm going to have to come to your carry. I have to say everybody. Here's a pretty decent seniors before we get deep into the podcast here and like everybody tunes supermom. Oh yeah except for my mom She's the only one that listens all. We're convinced del Let's plug guys where you host and Karaoke. Let our friends now all right now. I'm doing Thursday nights at Liberty Bar in Pontiac but I'm hoping to branch out to a few more bars come in the next few weeks a little closer to home to you. That would be wonderful fat. So how can people contact you if they want to give you interior their bar. Well if you look For for Stereo Life Entertainment on facebook out. Yes you're right because Stereo L. S. T. E. R. E. O. L. L. Y. F. E.. So it's real life entertainment. That's pretty live him right there. Also Hashtag `bout that life felt that life. I didn't know that that's cute. I like that about that life with a y also with a y any bar owners out there you WanNa get a Karaoke gig not on Thursday nights or maybe even on Thursday nights. 'cause Fuck Pontiac Saturday thirty more. I love my pontiac bar but we have other hosted I could host. Their Young Pontiac could come to different their euro that was much the way The Trivia went is like we would go and start up a gag gag and then get somebody to take it over and be the host there and stuff like that so my company has multiple hosts with like sorry aggressive with bottle. I'm sorry yeah we've got multiple hosts with like different Amazing qualities like like our host. Shelby is very in tune with shelby. Convinced they're both very in tune with the with the top forties and dash is very very in tune with the alternative and anything thank Disney or musical. She's incredible perfect. Sounds really nice. Bubbly personality very personal. Very progressive helps helps so we usually go Wednesday nights down at the Woodbridge POB in downtown Detroit and Monday. The good for Mikey a mighty down their hosts in he's great. He can do the Disney songs and you would swear a real Disney Atarot. Yeah yes such rate is a Disney princess. Yeah he has a dizzy prince real. I thought it was a girl singing the first couple of times I still mess it up. Sometimes I'm like who is that girl and it's like now. That's mikey pretty amazing. Yeah you it's something he's as well but he's like choir trained and he's been doing it for he has a bunch of squire thing. Yeah and so he brings friends down and they all kill it. It's like yeah you're food you're going like top notch professional when you go down there and then you know you get the random that comes in and can't sing piano man and that's how I feel about like with Jordan is that I've I have brought Jordan too few places I worked at just because I was like Gary Gary Okay I got you. I know somebody. You've been our best supporter. Hell Yeah Hell. Yeah I like Super Support Jordan and and she seriously is first of all. She's the amazing singer. And I know that you guys. I don't think that you've actually seen her say or been to one of her karaoke shows but she's amazing singer on top of that she's an amazing host and we actually have what I like to call a Karaoke group like. We have like a group of our friends that we all do Karaoke. We all go to wherever wherever she's at which has been a few Tuesday nights generally is like the night that we all go out as a group but like when we're out with each other it's like we Roland all in probably ten to twenty people deep and they're all bars law that they're all like the best singers in the world during their all pretty good and the middle very polite staff and they drink like fish and they will food and they. They're like the a dream come true for people so whenever I like pitched Jordan to one of my friends like somebody's like we're looking for IOS a pitcher Jordan. I'm just like all right. There was one time that there is a place in downtown Ferndale. Oh and they were looking for a curiosity hosts they had one already replaced. He was all right but like I don't even think that actually. If if I recall correctly I was there watching it all happen and I had turned to the owner and was like let me introduce you to somebody because I don't I think they were really looking for someone and then a wheel. I know it wasn't even a week later. I called you that night and I said I am sitting here at this place and I think that you would kill it here. Where are you come up here? And she was like come. Pick me up so I laughed. Went and picked her up brought her back. We talked The next week. That's when we BRA now. Everyone in and we had like thirty people in there. It was crazy. Yeah later you were working there saying can we named drought absolutely Zeke's my God Zeke's was great. So that's where we were talking about so I tend to kind of just a little bit like like weird about because I don't want if there's anything personal from you guys so if you WANNA namedrop go ahead and do that okay. Now we have nothing but good things to say about. Oh and Zeke's was absolutely wonderful people you start with start with a gun owner and you don't act with good food and good. Everyone was. It was a good time. They they got me up there singing drunken alibis. That's like my token song I guess and then their owner just took video of it and sent it to to the lead singer of flogging molly. Yeah like that was the crazy. That's ever happened to me when people like. I mean that just happened like yeah my video of me on his phone. What's and that's what good friends are for is like you know the spreading the love of like? Hey I know Karaoke people. I know somebody who does this. That's how that's how the world turns. That's how things happened. That's how people get rich and famous and bring their friends along for the bride. I won't forget you guys it's going to happen. I hope I don't know how it's going to happen. Yeah please don't forget US little people only no no. It won't be like wait a minute. You're up top because of our podcast. We have so many listeners. Exactly thanks mom. The Hillary I love I love. I think it's much more charming when women do it when they call their mom by their first name like. That's just cool. It's like cousin wasn't known up now and I call them our first name. I mean you you call her mom to her face but look on the on the air catering like you know. No Rain Is my sister. Mom Is Laura Laura. Okay I thought you were talking about now. Lorraine is my sister in we on the same name lows all the low lows those. I thought my family was confusing. GROWING UP WE'RE ALL JAYS but at least all our sound different. Do they sound different. Though Jillian Jordan and Jodi Jillian Jillian Jordan. Sound pretty quick pretty similar to me. Jody is a little bit different. So for me it's like Laura Lorraine Lauren so we're all we all have the same name name plus or minus a letter or like. Maybe a letter is moved to a different spot. It's like they all sound identical to each other. If you were south of the border it'd be hidden the end hoarding and sorry smile. I don't know why they called me on take time now Dan. Everyone else got to pick a Spanish name in Spanish class. Yes and I started with the J. Just they were like no you get your regular name where you're done. I I went with pock. Oh what they call us or the Joke Horn super thank you the horn who went to an arts academy for like my first couple years of high school and there was in the woods. Yeah so there was this this guy and his name was gaylord and I didn't under- when he introduced himself to me. I didn't understand what he said. So my thing to try and get around around. I can't remember your name was. Hey what call you for short. And he got super pissed at me because it would be gay. Grew and I like I didn't remember number is name. I didn't know his name was gaylord. was like John like you. I mean like I don't know he was so pissed I was like damage in a work. Yeah that's kind of a bad thing to do to get don't do that. I don't know man people come up with crazy james named declan and Andy just looked at me and said well if I met a kid named declan I would want to deck declan. So it's a IT'S A. It's an old old world traditional national name. I've got a friend WHO's got a son named declan. I like that name I like it. It's just decks in the name that won Tek Yakim or or let him build a deck like magic the gathering. Oh Hey if you want your kids to stay after eggs introduce them to magic ordeal to stay off the introduce them to detail the magic the gathering. They won't have money for growth that's true that's it's true you're just buying cards all the time Europe are. I have a question about Gary Okay. I'm sorry I'm GonNa Bring because I really WANNA no. Don't be sorry I really do want to know how you guys as you this so I have been there personally when I've seen multiple different places and curiosity hose deal with though worst drunk people Yeah what is your go-to method to deal with a drunk person or four and what's like the craziest Shit you've ever seen during being hosting Karaoke withdrawn person. Do you want to take this or you want me to take this house. I WANNA hear I. I want to hear you out because you both have story so so you tell a story so with Karaoke the craziest thing is the world we live in you. Have I know there's a bunch new genders now but you've got male and female and that's how most people see it so as a male host or female host Karaoke. It changes the game. The problem is the problems that I have had. Running shows are completely different than the problem. She's had sure you know so a lot of times people think they can you know. Oh it's just a girl running Carioca Gary Okay I can. y'All come on Sweden. I'll get my way. I'll get my way you know with me. They just immediately walk up like We're going to need to give this guy money if we you want anything. They don't think they can charm me so they know that you get tipped more because of that as a male host I will. I worked mostly in California for the tips and I would walk out making more money in tips. I would getting paid from the bar Dan Out in California. And do you make. I may tips but not on like slow. Nothing to do with the fact of like where you're doing it at or if it's because does your fee. I think I think a lot of it has to do with like a little bit of where I'm doing an aunt and a little bit like where we are in the country because like if you go to California there are places that that you that. They don't pay the Karaoke at all. Oh per song. I would like to pay two dollars to sing this song. We'll put you on the list John. What's Holy Shit that blows my mind you pay to do Carioca then yes so if I so if I only get fifty people to sing that night? And they pay two dollars's I'm making one hundred dollars that night. Oh okay a hundred people the saying that night. I'm walking out with two hundred that night. I think it just depends. I can see where where I can see where it has. Its benefits but that's not how things are run in this area of the country. Don't do that though no not over here. I didn't know that. Did you know that I've heard that from hosts like from the other side of the country it kind of it makes sense to in a way to do it like that. I can see why bar owners would do it that way. Like yeah you can come out out. I'm not going to pay you but like you know. Everybody knows that we've got Karaoke. It'd be good for business and Blah Blah Blah Then you make your money however you can now so does that I mean you get your. They're out west. What usually would happen is I would be working nine to one and then anything after after one up until two they would give me twenty five bucks so if I had if it was like an incentive to hair? You'RE GONNA keep the people there because because I know you asked a question we kinda on sorry no like I I actually really like that. Because the incentive there was what the job really is so hey it's not the karaoke host job to bring people in the door as a bar. You should be advertising. You know you shouldn't have placards words on your tables tips us where we were at. They have the sign outside said. Hey this is not only karaoke but this is who you're getting they would ever name up there right so they're Kinda like giving you. Yeah the Karaoke host job is to keep the people in the building right. Make sure they're heavily every time on your host to bring people in you should be China on your host to keep them there if you're having a good time. Are you really going to go often find another bar. No no you're GONNA rebel. You know let's let's do some more shots. Let's we're you know. We're we go to do Karaoke most of the time. We're always trying to like you got time for one more song. We Wanna stay till the end. That's the thing too is that I've actually been to a place recently. where I I had gone in probably I think it was there around midnight and I asked them like? Hey I'm GONNA put in a song and they're like Oh we won't have time for you like what do you mean it's midnight. There's two hours left. Act like oh but we have singers all through this like I have like forty five songs. I'm like a forty five singers. Now we have forty five songs if you have forty five singers ars. I understand that because I'm at the end of this rotation or whatever but you're not giving everybody a chance forty five songs. You're letting people go up like lights even that those bad business because you WANNA get everybody in at least once you do have to. I wouldn't come back if I knew that after midnight. There's no reason for me to come their work at eleven thirty then. Now I'm not GonNa go there the way that Jordan. I have both run it. You know one o'clock we start. Start thinking about time management. All right. Look you're not seeing a ten minute long song or you're not doing America will be no. It's not having right it now. So you know you start thinking about the clock management. You know. It's one o'clock. I got this many people saying but you do everything you can to get that new singer up because that's a potential chill new customers. Are The bar absolutely hands. The bar to becomes a regular thing like we'll go for a while there. We're GONNA every Wednesday every Wednesday's Karaoke night we'd go to the same same faces and yeah some nights. It's busy some nights it's not because the thing is sometimes they would like be like. Hey you know you come up here here all the time so I'll make sure I get you in even if I only have time to give you one song or like you can do the last song or whatever it is. They made sure that they would like accommodate accommodate for us because we were like longtime customers and friends. You know you become friends with the host and stuff like that W One night. I was up there and there was. There was people in the bar but nobody was saying and so he he called me like seven times. I'm like I got another one and I'll suck sing on. That happened when we were there. It was just like there were so few singers that we were just like. Oh God put me in another one or they would literally be like. Hey you WANNA sing and Jordan did that for me all the time she would be like. Hey like over the microphone. I'd be working right. It'd be like you know because I said I worked at a place that had karaoke and stuff so I would go around and then she would just be like. Hey Lo lo you ready for a song okay. Yeah I'm cool or I'd be like give me five minutes. She put somebody else up or like the other thing too is I if I put one song then she would just keep me in rotation and the next time that I will come up she would just be like hey do you wanna song and she would keep a file of all the things. Soap sings all all the songs saying. Yeah and so I would just be like. I don't even know what things go. Well you can do this on or you can do that at all. Yeah Okay Yeah I remember that and then that is actually something. I'm coming to terms with You know like I said I ran my own business out in California. I'M GONNA to I train Jordan. Look this is kind of what you're getting into what you gotta do. And it's so weird because I've been doing something the same way for so long that I just viewed as normal right so we keep going to these shows that are getting hosted by the people. I'll go up sing a song and then that's it like oh well you didn't come up and see me again. It's like Oh oh oh. You're you're running. This is just a business you earn Ryan trying to make friends right Jordan to bring people and you know you come up with what your song and in Jordan comes right back to your table. Hey did you have another one for me. Walk around a lot and let people ringing the people into it exactly like keeping people engaged personal keeps them in the bar thing. That's a bartender beyond gauged. Exactly it's the same exact idea. Yeah only a different job title. We do the same exact thing we sit there and we make sure that we talk to people and make them feel like they're they're comfortable there and ED. Sometimes I've been paying attention to the angry bartender too much lately and also the The bartender hates you. That video but It just kind of a trash bag again like brass. I've wanted to do that so many times. Do Zone. Who pro breath is just been eating baby? Diapers Grossman Grossman go. Take a minute or something. No but This kid at the bar this weekend. Perfect segue to the story It's super busy. We're running around and I make eye contact point at him. He points to a beer tap that he's standing routes right in front of him so points of the beer tap. Okay right you I grab a beer glass and I pour that beer and then as important and I'm done I'm going to hand it to him. He was like oh I didn't want that. And and some of the bartender comes over with his drinks. And I'm like I remember my first time in a bar weekend. I felt like people forgot how to order and he was a younger guy. But it was like are you. Are you just seriously mentally challenged. Did you just do that right. Like and bears sure what kind awesome awesome. Let the fuck I was just I was. I was Kinda flabbergasted I was like. I remember my first time in the bar and my bartender friends like be nice. And I'm like fuck him. You know you little douchebag bag like I really don't care that it's GonNa get wasted. It's not that point. It's just like you just wasted my time. Buddy were the draft order from two bartenders. If someone takes your order don't border from another bartender. Like she got me or me from somebody else showed her from you to you. That is serious. You want to beers because you're going to get you're getting yeah. Oh you're paying for both went to go get your shits and then you order from someone else I did. I did steal a good one from the from. The bartender hates you guy because I can just crack me up. I was watching it this weekend. And I make in a fancy drink fancy cocktail you know becomes up. Oh what'd you making their combined. Can he's like Heineken Beer. Yup and you know as an older guy. He doesn't get the joke and I'm like I'm just kidding. It's an old fashioned or whatever the hell I was making it was strawberry. Rhubarb is a non alcoholic drink but yeah yeah people come up and ask you said that and thought that I wanted one in collecting the never. Mind Ed Vodka. Yeah it's just. It's vodka makes our garlic revival bidders with Strawberry Syrup and soda water so it'd be Strawberry Rhubarb Vodka Soda again. A need this will you with what you guys just said to any of the beer tap. Got Me thinking just for a second. It's like Whoa ow. Our parents is bartenders. Had it so much easier than yeah they all take. Budweiser shot of Jack. Jack you know like that was like all there was. You didn't have all this craft beer. You didn't have all exactly thing. Hi Sir. You know again extra flavored bullshit. Oh Hey look old fashioned. Yeah they had those we had. Do you know where old fashioned came from like how they originated originally originally originated when it matter if he did. I tell you to tell us anyway exactly so back in the day when they were making all the bathtub. Gin Prohibition Commission and people were making spirits out of whatever were watering things down and you didn't know what you're getting and sometimes it tasted God awful like you could not drink the shit. She had that they were making because they weren't making it up to standards. So what are you gonNA do. You add some simple syrup. Yadda Cherry at an orange masts asked the horrible flavor of Shit. You drunk Exactly so that's what it was for moonshine matter shine. Thanks for making a theme song for US Saturday. We have to tell Dave. Go ahead and single that part out bridges. We'll put that in every time you give a little history like bring in the little mini Casio keyboard aboard. Figure it out. Press little button every time you do. It'd be like super excited that Bob's Burgers. I have about burgers. Jesus I have a keyboard for you my dear. We will make this happen to my favorite on that show I really like to. That's a really good impression. She's right the little bit deeper. I love team but I will say I've got a lot lot more favorite characters also go okay. I just want to really quickly. Just say that if for for some reason a Benjamin ever. Here's this for any reason he's GonNa he has the best voice ever. It doesn't matter. How many characters does he use the same fucking? It's just as talking void and I am so in love with him. The Archer Crossover so with him. He he is so good coach. mcgurk mcgurk the devil from Lucy daughter of the devil like Archer Bob's Burgers. He's AH got some good roles fucking good and they're gonNA just him talk. It's just talking to the fucking clerk dude from smoking like family guy. There's not even like like there's not a whole lot of emotional inflection in his speech but it makes it so much better I love him. I've always wondered if I could do a cartoon character. I think I think I could feel the love to voice. A character would be great so if you here's this if he's listening. And he's ever whatever's next project is you know once they introduced the character. I would love to do it. I think I've got a face for radio so give me a call get in touch. Have my people call people voice. But I feel like I've got like a good kinda like I sound like I for some reason. Yeah I think I sound raspy smoky smoking. Yeah I I have like a smokey voice for girl. I don't know if I feel any more but I smell like us on high feel about another another hosts house in her kid. Looks at migos. Are you a girl or a boy. Oh Nag I will. I'm a girl. Why is your voice? So Deep L.. I get I just have a deep voice. A girl I do too and her son walked in two minutes later and thought I was grandma it was a good day. It was both gramma. Emma within three minutes of each other and I was very very lot of cigarette filter. They don't go filter. Just don't care home again. I just saw him again. The same two kids this time they roll down their window. And now I got my rainbow hair. I'll brighton and they're like we really. He liked yeah. I really like you to. Because what else do you say to your friends kids. Yeah Getaway Kid you bother me. You're you're noxious actress. They don't have kids. I have dogs. They're just as noxious kids are great. Kids are awesome. Kids are kids are kids. Yeah yeah they're tiny little little small humans trying to figure out everything tiny drunk adult fairy much so now it's funny. It's like they're all trying to figure out how to how to get along in the world and there's a million rules and there's a million different things that you're not supposed to do and there's all these different things but they're the the beauty of them is that they you know they call them like they see him like. Are you a boy or a girl. I can't tell because your voice you know. They're just honest about rate so ceramic can yes. Can I answer your question. Absolutely what was my question. You know night remmy asked you know when dealing with drunks how do you do it. We sound exactly alike twins. I mean look at look I mean other than the blonde blonde hair and me. Having a being Burnett we've both got like really long pretty eyelash. God can see how you dress savior and Lord Sir the Nicer Rack. But I'm not wearing underwear. So hey we're there boxers. You can't growl go ahead yet. So the question was when you know when dealing with with drunks How do you do it like those people that are just completely unruly? It the fuck out the door and it's hard because you know I I've been sitting here this whole time thinking about it and honestly one of the things I've had to do was just. Hey well I kind of have to depend on the people that I've met in this bar. Yeah Kinda helped me out because you're fighting a really weird thing there because you're an employee yeah You're now just decide. I can't just go. Hey you need to get the hell out so you know. I've I've done the go to the manager. Hey this person's giving us a problem. Let's look at it but you really have to hey You need your your people that you can depend on your regulars who might not be singers but everybody go to you get your regular people that come there and they they hang out no matter what you end up making friends with them because you're there you're essentially part of the staff bath after you've been there long absolutely so odd. The story that I had was one where I actually failed. It was Vista this to California. The Bar was Jim's Vista Lounge. And that's where I got my start at out there in California great eight woo but uh so out on the smoking patio because the smoking ban was in effect way before we got here and I I watched this guy punches girlfriend. Now I'm up there working. I'm up there working working. I am the Karaoke host. But I'm one of those people that my morals no that actually comes before my job or that the mic drop. That's a mic drop. Take Care Bye. Pardon me folks. I'll beer exactly so I so I saw this this thing. Go down and it was unprovoked. It doesn't matter it is exactly exactly how so and the guy was much bigger than me put. You don't care I mean when you go against morals and values so I fucking spun the guy around and I went to go punch him and I got one hit off onto his chest and then I had. Somebody grabbed me by the back of the neck and I. That's when your butthole puckers speaking of Golden Ball. No this guy have a body so I turn around. And it's this giant Samoan Guy and he just goes not dude. You have a job to do. You need to get your aspect in there and do your job. It was a regular so I was going to handle it. I was like you know what thank you. I'M GONNA go to be with that. And then he just beat the shit out nice awesome so but that was like justice was served. Hey this is a drunk asshole. Getting into a fight. I I can't let that go. Yeah no you did the right thing I tried. You did the right thing and he did the right thing. Mohan wherever you are Mr Simone good on you. May that's awesome. That I mean the has nothing to do with Samoa. That's Australian aid. But whatever it's one of those nights nursing a hangover I'm always nursing a hangover. Seems like on. I come in here and Mondays. I said all their life as a hangover. Yeah like I. I sing being an entire Karaoke sawing about hangovers. It's called liquid lunch. It's just a song about how much you hate yourself after a hangover like like there's Silimar is like I lost my keys. I at least I found my pillow because I can't find for all been they're forgetting forgetting stuff and losing stuff i. I used to have hangover so often that I would get the big Powder Tub of gatorade mix because like every night. I would forget to go get gatorade or something. I got this big not. Just make myself giant glass. I had like one of those big like a big Gulp. Help thing a thirty two ounce or whatever it put a couple of scoops in their mix it up with some water boom gatorade slam it down and it. It did the trick for a long time but I was like. What am I doing to my body either? Drinking Gatorade doesn't help me serious. Gatorade does not at all. I have to drink whatever I was. So if I'm drinking Jack and Coke I can wake up the next morning and I can drink coke just by itself But if I drink water no I'm dying I'm dying like I it pedialyte out like Oh there is no no appeals pedia share. But it's not. It's not dying for an entire day. Here's the point. You don't drink the Gatorade the next morning when you're hung over the past adil dehydrated and it works great for me. I never do that. I'm always like I'm GonNa do that. And then like just kidding I was. It was drunkenly texting and ex like a half ago. And Yeah exactly and She's like drunk. Boy Am I. You know be so and I'm I'm texting her and she's like you need some gatorade on a nap and I was like. Aw Shit I was gonNA totally forget about gatorade inside totally didn't and a totally had a not bad hangover the next day it was like thanks for that. Kelly used to have to come over every she'd be like all right. We're doing things today day. And I'm like but I'm hung over so she'd come over with like a seven eleven cup size like giant slurpee cup full of crushed ice okay. Juicy crushed is just not allowed to have water but solid water. Apparently is allowed. Author is all right so just giant tight so you can eat. You could eat snow. Apparently I don't know you know. I even tried snow. Just stay away from the yellow stuff. Well Yeah So. Don't come to my house yard. We have a small Howard. I have a small yard. You have two dogs. I have two dogs I. We're screwed either way. I'm just not try snow. They'll try to good call. I mean I used to eat snow times. Usually I say for sake maybe skiing little skin again. We're talking about the totally different back in real. It's like snowing favorite kick. Take Okay you're GonNa love me in the morning police officer who love it. We had a friend who has displayed as I did. An incredible job had two people on my friends list. Do that shit now and both I was like super impressed with. That's good. Yeah very good cast by I. I've never really done it. I want to know somebody's five so we should have a contest. Tesla figure out what Remy's 'cause play should be. Okay let's play game all right. Hey for those of you listening anybody. WHO's listening to the end of the episode? You know all the way through yet through our facebook and fuck an say what say what should be to this fun. I like that. We'll put some pictures of ourselves. I was up there and be like You would make a good Ding Ding Ding Ding Dang and The winner whoever whoever chooses what we ended up coming. We'll say your name on the air exciting because that's about all we've got no you know what we'll do honor Arnaud. We'll do something fun. We're we'll give you a prize on. We'll figure an honestly it'll be a good price or something. Yes we will give you a good good prize. That's all we're saying about something that you will like something that you treasure forever. We haven't decided what it is us. Kaz playing as I percent. Exactly you get to see what we look like in the puck is going to be a hug for me. Everybody likes for the last five minutes of the show. Let's let's see let's see what kind of characters we can do. What kind of what kind of famous characters can you imitate? Well we all know that I can do miss one. We do know your Miss von give. It was a little miss one way of ten. You need to know this. You look like a man I tell you. So how have I known you as long as I had never heard you do I could do missile. You had no clue I could do. Miss one over in my mind is blow. Yeah it's amazing for some reason I'm really good at it. I don't know why I used to do and I was a kid. I knew a whole bunch of people that would try and do it and then I did it and for some some reason I was like yeah. I'm fucking really certain characters you can just one third. I want to thank you all right. Not so many look at her. I'll look at. Aw that's one of my favorite Disney characters. Disney Disney Disney Disney Disney Disney Disney nicknamed Your Name Twenty Times. Please don't see me I don't have any money. We adding users were safe. I like Disney plus two months early. They already got my money. Yeah that's true but we did not play mind from someone else. Oh Oh I call the kettle black thank you don't have. I'm a metal singer all growly in anger. You don't have. I don't what what what do I do. I can only pull it off sometimes because I have to be in the right mood by you. That's perfectly but sometimes it does it. Yes sometimes it doesn't come out right so it's like road. Rules Coke Zero Rue des. It's my brother on here. He could do like the entire podcast in the voice. Oh my God I sounds amazing because I love to you but I can't quite do it. I you know I want mannerisms but I know I know my brother I do Karaoke. He's saying disturbs version of the sound of silence. It's good as tales Hank Hill. That's amazing I wish. I had it on demand. Dan Dan I get boom. Our is the best one Berkeley good. Well Yeah Nice. You could be a producer here so much appreciate that. I figured we were you. You coming up around that we were Kinda near it. I was going to let them plug but we already let them plug before so now you guys were really great hosts you made us blog. Hey No no we try to make sure that everyone has an opportunity to get their information out there. If you WANNA see someone someone bartender somewhere if you see them do their karaoke hosting or if you wanna see a band play the next time the Andes on. He's going to be with his band. And then you know so. It's it's just making sure that everyone knows where the fuck your hat exactly. Soon as I get my girls site up on pictures of my engram plenty. Why do you think it's going to be like the camera guy? And I'M GONNA be the CAM damn girl and I'll give you a percentage like salad for you. We still talking about eating food. mcbain is like my. I'm telling you topless Bliss Muck Bang I'm GonNa make it. Top McLean Topless Muck Bang. This is me okay. Well you guys can't see it but this is me being topless but I'm not topless ben pretending tending to be topless and then eating shrimp. I'll cook the shrimp because that's what I'm doing Shala. You've got a job. Yeah chairs to boom Mike. And he's got a direct and hold the boom mic. Everyone everyone has amid great forty percent goes to you guys and the other sixty. Because I'm the one on all right. Sounds good as long as you guys are down town the price of food out before we divvy up. Well Yeah Absolutely I. I'm totally fine with being part of this. 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Iraqi prime minister to resign

PRI's The World

46:51 min | 1 year ago

Iraqi prime minister to resign

"Twenty nine thousand four hundred years since Africans were enslaved and take into the English English colonists less African Americans. You know something is missing and you want to be united with it if you have any level of awareness of our own identity where you came in front. Today we go to West Africa and for all you deal lovers happy black Friday in France. There's a push to get rid of the big shopping day. We communicate a lot about climate disasters of this over consumption and this overproduction also a better way to count penguins with Azeem into these images. You can actually see. The Penguins and sells images are so high. Resolution is such an incredible idealism accounting penguins from space. I'm Marco Werman those stories and more today here on the world. I'm Marco Werman. This is the world good to have you with us this Friday. We've been watching. His political unrest has intensified in Iraq. The past few days culminating today with the resignation of the prime minister. Let me get you up to speed on. Wednesday demonstrators set fire to the Iranian consulate in the southern Iraqi city of Non Jeff yesterday with tension in the Air Iraqi security forces his shot and killed more than sixty protesters in cities across the country. The bloodiest day yet in this uprising. which has been underway since last month then then today? Iraq's top Shia Muslim cleric condemned the use of force and called for a new government Iraq's Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mati stepped down shortly after live Cuba's a senior adviser to Iraq's Prime Minister and is currently in London how surprised are you by Abdul Mahdi's announcement. It was not surprised at all the prime minister had to go. He should have gone based on the advice given to him by many people including myself weeks ago. But I think and he's a shrewd politician. He thought he can hold on obesity hideous the end of the road. Now he's out. There is vacuum and there Big Big questions on what's coming next. And what was the significance of Iraq's top Shia leader Ayatollah Ali assist Donnie basically condemning the use of lethal force against protesters and calling for a new government will just bear in mind for a thousand years now dress and the previous I had kept the tradition of not intervening in politics unless there is a crisis for magnificent scale for them today GEICO COM explicitly to ask parliament to do something. It just indicates how bad things have reached. Do you expect the resignation to deescalate. Escalate the violence of the protests. Yes I think on one hand for them to basically say will at least we forced a change in government government. That's a good sign. I think that will help. Calm the protesters but on the other hand if the alternative proposed to them is more of the same system from the saint people than the search will certainly escalate their campaign and they will demand and more radical changes right. I mean that's what we've been hearing from a lot of the protesters that it's not just about removing prime ministers about replacing an entire system. So do you know who is expected to succeed. The prime minister was the prime minister submits his resignation formally to parliament at its accepted accepted. Then the President Dr Sada will be holding power until the parliament agrees your prime minister get it would be basically. Let's say okay. Two major blocs. Whose Agreement Brought Adil Abdul Majid You power last year one block is led by a group that that is close to Iran and another block is led by Muqtada? Solder who is let's say more independent from Iran so you upset the groups groups that are aligned with Iran they have the capacity to sabotage the system and vice versa. You're a senior advisor to the Prime Minister Minister. Is Your job secure. I was an independent advice to him and to the prime minister before him. I am substance. I WILL CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE UTAH. I did before the current Prime Minister and hopefully in the near future. Let me just go back to what happened on Wednesday with these protesters storming the Iranian rainy. Consulate and nudge the holy city of Najran. Set It on fire. How significant was that especially in light of the city symbolism to Shiite Muslims? I think it is significant. But more importantly it's an exclusively Shia city and Iran has a very strong presence connect- Jeff itself so the fact that the public outrage has reached that point sentences very very strong message. I I think as people who reject corruption rejects those. What has SOCIETA D- like with with crime rejecting the Iran with it? That's what's happening. Laith Kuba senior adviser to Iraq's prime minister. Who has just resigned? Thank you for your time. You're welcome thanks bye. This week iphone users on on the Crimean Peninsula noticed something different to APPs from apple maps and weather now label Crimea as Russian territory. Russia took over the peninsula from Ukraine. Crane in two thousand fourteen. Much of the world still does not recognize the annexation in the rest of Ukraine Crimea remains labeled as Ukrainian territory on the two apple APPs. The Ukrainian government though is denouncing apple. So how exactly should map makers deal with these political boundary disputes Johnny. From Scotland is Mick Ashworth he's a cartographer and author of why North Up map conventions and where they came from. What isn't normal protocol mic for creating maps of areas with disputed borders? The primary Marie considerations are just walked is happening on the ground largely so that you've got to consider a lot of sensitivities that are obviously sensitivities on both sides of geopolitical our political territorial disputes cutthroat of his generally would tend to look at what the de facto situation is actually happening on the ground they look at how widely recognized that territory the as the definition of its boundary and. They also considered the views. Where where they're publishing maps they'd look at the view of their own government as well which could vary from publishing domains polishing domain domain? So when you see these kind of disputes like outside of Crimea. How are they usually handled well? There as fairly as neutral relate as possible eighty two times of the world for a long time and we had to be incredibly cancel in how we represent things not being being careful not to upset too many people. Oh you can't please everybody all of the time. Obviously there's there is an interesting aspect to this a story just now. The there's a lot more flexibility within the digital realm for Apple and Google to show things differently depending on where people whether users logging in when it comes to national borders. What are some of the strangest borders? You've so you've seen lately in maps. There's so many that are sort of contested on another. And the more you look into where boundaries came from the more you see why there are issues. He's now so I've been looking recently. Quite a lot of the origins of international boundaries in Africa for example when after the scramble for Africa the slow unsteady unsteady appearance of new borders across the continent as fascinating on the fact that they would draw on by officials. Hundreds of miles away from the borders are gives you an insight into just why there were problems there. Why they're continuing problems in many parts of the world? What about disputes over place names? I know this is a whole different prince subject but like Ukraine has given some people trouble over the Kiev or Kiev e or wide debate. And now how do you even pronounce it. Yeah it has an a name Sir. Right up there with bound is one of the most contentious issues to deal with and and mind a stunning that. Although Google don't show Crimea is part of Russia they do use Russian transliterations of the local names for Crimea rather than Ukrainian named forms as well. So they're maybe hedging their bets have been I but the issue of of choosing the right named form is fraught with difficulty as soon as the places named by cartographers horrors is named by a owner. In in theory it does add credence to their ownership. Replace Post it can deeply affect the people living in those in those areas. The Persian Gulf is a case in point point where the Iranians in states should be called. The Persian Gulf everywhere Arabic countries referred to as the Arabian Gulf of the publishers. Police the Gulf and the there's all sorts of sensitivities about what it implies in terms of ownership and control and one's decision to use either Arabian Gulf of Persian Gulf. Immediately lands you in a political camp You're in Scotland. Is brexit going to give you some new map-making opportunities who knows I'm not arguing. Research Change but such cheer political change across the world is always good for cats. I would say that. Make Ashworth in Cartagena for. He's in Scotland. Thanks very much okay. You're welcome enjoy black Friday while you can. If you're in France that is France adopted opted an amendment this week that would ban ads around this massive day after Thanksgiving shopping spree even though France does not celebrate thanksgiving. The amendment is part of the country's countries anti-waste law and Christine Carpentier says Black Friday is disastrous for the environment. She's with V French environmental group. That started the Anti Anti Black Friday movement. They Call Green Friday. We're really proud of this political awareness. We pushed to raise this awareness because as unreal as green fighting we communicate a lot about climate disasters of this over consumption John and these other production in the US. Black Friday has become the day where you can get deals and discounted prices on holiday gifts like toys always and gadgets and clothing. It's really important for people who don't have a lot of resources and it's a way to get ahead on holiday shopping if people are going to do the shopping anyway. What is wrong with that? I don't agree with your most of the time is just propaganda and light because we have you know very active nonprofit consumer organisations in France and observe as a reality of this prices reduction and let us know and published to these. Most of companions would participate in Black Friday announced seventy dispersant of price reductions but in reality it's less than two percent you know. It's a real problem because there is a huge communication indication at it. It looks propaganda that series the gap ways Zaria did over the past few years. I know there's been a growing concern. Learn about over consumption in France but France also has its own weeks long sale events in the summer and winter lay sold yet so exactly. What makes sir? What makes that different from Black Friday? Sarah strictly regulated by law. That's why politic's want to ban black Friday. You didn't because it's so question of glow so black Friday essentially is this big sale day. That's not even regulated in France. Yes I demand. It's not aloud however it happens. That's the point so and Christine is at your hope that eventually black Friday just disappears in France and other parts of the world also in the. US No no no. We don't want people to feel guilty in buying. What's won't it's it's a kind of freedom Free ability but I wish people can have good information to buy more responsible and more atypical. So that's Kinda the philosophy sophy. I'm looking out of our studio window at a big sneaker store and the parking lot right now is packed. People trying to get deal. So what would be your advice on how to be a better consumer. Okay then when you buy something never buy it because the price is lower ask yourself do do I really need it and then buy things that can lasts ends. That can be repaired. More sustainable exactly anne-christine increasing couple and J. V. one of the groups behind green Friday an anti black Friday initiative in France and Belgium and Christine. Thank you very much. I twice a pleasure. The French may not want black Friday. But when it comes to Thanksgiving leftovers they are nailing it head to the world dot. Org to find out how they do it and speaking of leftovers dovers. Yesterday I was texting korean-american pal of mine and L. A. WHO's also a big Foodie to wish her happy Thanksgiving and she texted back. Just put three next and the giblets giblets from two friends birds on for stock Turkey joke by nightfall. My pal is Leeann Leeann. You wrote me this morning to say that the joke is all gone on so first of all what is joke. Joke is rice porridge. It's generally bland. It's like the little black dress of the the culinary ethno sort of world so it's a great way to use Thanksgiving leftovers specifically Turkey and you were explaining to me that I minutes not just a Korean thing. Everybody seems to embrace it in Asia. Wh Why does it seem to cross national boundaries. It's all about the reis. It's the way to make the staple staple ingredient last longer and go further. So how'd you make your joke this year this year my joke featured several dollops of really good fresh sesame seed oil poached duck egg flash fried shallots for Scallon Salon Tro and a dollop dollop of fish sauce. It was delicious. Oh man so. If it's all gone what you having tonight. Tonight it's going to be black. Molay Turkey enchiladas long. Live the Turkey leftovers my friend in Los Angeles Leeann Hawn. Thank you good to speak. Thanks Marco talk you soon coming up cats and the birds words that hate him. You're with the world I'm Marco Werman and you're with the world The Times I've been able to take a leisurely shirley stroll through European cities. There's something there that you just don't find as often here in the US they seem harmless. You may even been down onto pet them but European cats roaming the streets. It's actually illegal in most places on the continent. The reason they're killing birds so cats need to stay inside ED researchers at Tilburg University in the Netherlands analysed nature conservation legislation across the EU are trial borse and associate professor of Environmental Law. Off says the law is clear. Birds must be protected. Member states are supposed to implement a system of strict protection. And that involves a prohibition addition on the deliberate killing of any birds okay is the owner of two cats. I believe that when people let the cats outside they're not deliberately telling the cat go and hunt birds cats GONNA cat but the court of Justice says while that may be true cat owners are responsible for knowing that their cat may may go kill a bird so it is the negation of the member states to have this prohibition in place in national legislation and also to effectively enforce I himself to really ensure that no killing takes place a twenty thirteen study by the Smithsonian and the US fish and wildlife service estimated that roaming in cats kill more than three billion birds every year. And that's just here in the US. That's three billion with a B.. In Europe the legislation to protect birds is clearly clearly not being enforced. Because as we've seen in Europe cats are everywhere. The Bird Protection Law is being enforced for other animals. In the Netherlands. Dogs are not allowed to roam free and chase wildlife if they do. There's a fine trump and his team found only one reason for the blind spot towards felines so many people have cats and have strong feelings about this issue and there's not a single political party that wants to take this up and lose voters. Yep Don't mess with the cat vote and while we're in the bird counting mood if you've got little ones in the car you may now turn up the volume all right everyone. How many penguins do you think there are in Antarctica? Think about all this penguins England's he saw in happy feet now think about the entire Antarctic continent. Would you say there are a hundred thousand penguins. A million five million fifty million. I'll give you a few seconds all right. The answer is roughly five million penguins in Antarctica. Yeah I know that's a lot of penguins. I say. Roughly early because penguin colonies are difficult to count penguins. Don't exactly hang out in the easiest to reach places but the BBC's Mark Ernie went to Antarctica. Here's what she discovered about about how to get a handle on. Just how many penguins are actually there. In the olden days. There is only one way to see how penguin colonies were thriving. You had to physically visit and count them the Times. Changing the goal of a pit in the floor of the aircraft with a hole in the valley. The mapping camera is pointing vertically theraworx kind of to the aircraft hangar. Now to play it's called a Twin Otter it's on skis which means it can fly and land in very difficult conditions. And I've come to meet Adrian Fox from the British and talk to survey what we're doing doing is we're applying mapping techniques to counting the populations of a daily penguins along and salsa potential. That about five hundred trait known penguin colonies but many of them haven't been visited for maybe even decades in some cases the advantage that we have with our stock phase. We're flying up two thousand feet above the penguins so we can definitely count the individual birds but it's a non invasive way of doing it we can do a lot of penguin goes eight one source of Adrian. Fox's camera Matt's penguins from around two thousand feet feet but actually they're being observed from far higher than that in fact from space as discovered back at the British Antarctic Survey Eh in Cambridge. So these are high resolution satellite inches of penguin colonies in Antarctica Fretwell from the team which tracks penguins. But actually when you zoom into these images you can actually see the penguins and sells images are so high resolution. It is such an incredible liberal idea. Realistic counting penguins from space will. Yes but it's very very useful because penguins especially things like improprieties bringing exceptionally remote and challenging harsh conditions. So actually getting people out there even getting a plane out can be almost impossible. And what has your search been telling you about these populations so if you go back ten years. We didn't know how many there were or where they worked. But now using satellite imagery we've been able to double the number of colonies. Elise we know about we now know there are fifty to fifty three colon. These half of those have been found by satellite imagery. The discovery of colonie sounds like good news but in fact back to these animals are facing an unprecedented threat. Dr Filter Thurn is head of conservation biology and propellants breed on series in a warming world. We'll see reduction in sea ice possibly by as much as thirty to forty percent and in that context the won't be sufficiency officiency ice in some areas for them to breed in effect. What you're saying is emperor? Penguins are under threat of extinction thus right with the climate scenarios Charlie that we're live to see the course of this century then we will lose substantial elements of the European population. Thirty percent. Fat Is is really significant and worrying. NBC Let me play Devil's advocate for a moment. Why does it matter why would a world without an the penguins matter? Well that's a good philosophical question. Why does he matter if a species goes extinct? Why does he have any species or many species extinct? Would you like to we. We live in a world where we have no penguins and no rhino. No elephants and no orangutangs. I certainly wouldn't like to see my children growing in a will to these much less rich and less diverse than this is the moment because once they're gone we can't bring and our. I Bet I had my own Penguin citing with meteorologist John Law who just look yes. She's awesome deady penguins. They're just tiny the ones that just a pair of them. Just stand on the intrigued by the house. However often you see their workers so comical the what around slide night across when they did it on their bellies? It's great to save the BBC's Martha Kearney reporting there from Antarctica Technology it makes. Our lives is easier and sometimes modern gadgets seemed to have a mind of their own take this moment for instance. There's no snow in the forecast. Is that blurted out by an apple. Watch the man wearing. It was a BBC meteorologist who was on live TV giving a weather update with snowy shots. The background to get sort of almost blizzard conditions like this even in places like Minneapolis and Denver and Denver's very high up cost without. That's that's yeah that's my thing is in. The forecast is pleased that we're listening to what I was saying. Apologies for that. I was not part of the plan. Thomas SCHAAF and knocker took to twitter and said I never summon Siri and Shafi knockers defense. His watch was likely giving a local forecast in the UK while he was busy talking about whether in the US where there is a lots of snow Wright's theory don't answer me while I'm talking the. US National Weather Service is warning against travel today through Saturday Saturday night across big stretches of the American West so use common sense and stay safe out there. You're listening to the world in Ghana. An archaeologist works to reveal a legacy of slavery and finds more than she expected acted. I wouldn't stay here after nightfall after delivers ghosts People here sounds people. Have Footsteps. People hit crying. I'm I'm Marco. Werman echoes of the slave trade. Four hundred years later. That still ahead here on the world. I'm Marco Marco Werman. This is the world. We're a CO production of the BBC World Service W. G. B. H. P. R. I N. P. R. X.. For many of us Thanksgiving is a time for reflection. Not just on the year gone by but on where we are as a nation and the people and Events who got us here this year marked four centuries since the first enslaved Africans arrived arrived in what is now the. US It was the start of slavery in this country with a legacy still present today. The descendants of those enslaved people have been returning to Africa to visit and in some cases to live there. They've met other descendants of people who in some cases abetted slavery the world's Rupa Shenoy traveled to Ghana and found the two groups grappling to understand their past when black Americans come to Ghana. They visit the last place. Their African ancestors step step foot here. Whitestone castles on the beach. They were called Slave Castles Amina Castle was one of the busiest when I think of the conditions of the dungeons the sale. Cynthia McCoy's here on a mission trip. She's from Omaha Nebraska and is descended from enslaved Africans. Who she she says might have been held at this castle to treat another human being that way? I can't I can't imagine please. He's a tour. Guide ushers us into one of his cells where prisoners were kept. It's the size of a big walk in closet. We have if the stand uncomfortably close. This is low. Suddenly the room goes dark. The only light comes from around the edges of the door. The guides unexpectedly shot. Shot it the tourist. Look at each thirty minute for. The guide opens the door on say condemned condemned sell the tour. Guide tells us this is where the captive Africans who wouldn't stop resisting were kept as punishment as we chuckle out. I fall into step step with Amazon Hagan. He's one of the few Americans here a Grad student from the University of North Carolina. He was here before when he was a kid crouch down. They have to coach Anthony here with his dad. James WHO's got an American and a retired high school social studies teacher from Maryland as we walked from rooms uh-huh where captives were kept to the offices and chapel above James Hagan questions our tour guide closely. He says when he was here before the guides didn't tell the full history and he wants to make sure they do this of course Anthony's chuckling because apparently his dad. What does this a lot where this the slaves will left here where the guy says they were only put in chains when they were taken added theirselves and they were led through door that he shows us it has a plaque above? That says door of no return and it's intentionally narrow so captive Africans had to walk out one by one from near darkness to sudden blinding sunlight. Amazon examined the doors and shutters. Think about all the Work in mentally. I wouldn't constrict in this place so that it was sufficient for his task. Pretty remarkably awful. Our Guide mentioned something that pregnant women being among the African held captive here James Hagan speeds up again can be easier for two three months. I will be the females out. Why would they be pregnant? Yes I saw. Who made them bring? Yes we made them pregnant. How did you get pregnant? Definitely somebody might have. The guys says what James Hagan was aiming to get him to say in. A benign way that the European he enslavers were the ones who slept with the captive African women than the guide moves on Amazon Hagen breathes a sigh of relief. He says once when a tour guide got to this subject the guide pointed at him. Anson has lighter skin than most Canadians. He gets it from his mom. WHO's a lighter skinned? Black American woman descended from people. Were enslaved singled me out. I don't remember who has other group. I remember him saying you know this is how you end up with individuals individuals who said okay so that's all remember it's just one example of how the experiences in these slave castles can deep very personal and deeply affecting for Americans many of whom come here seeking something less African Americans you know you know something is missing and you want to be united with it if you have any level of awareness about your own identity where you came from you would have to start asking those questions. Mona Boyd owns a tourism business for African Americans traveling to Ghana in Ghana's capital Accra. She grew up in segregated Arkansas under Jim Crow and remembers her parents whispering about lynchings in the kitchen early in the mornings thinking. She couldn't hear in sixth grade though she learned there was another place where people who looked like her lived in pride not fear. Some visitors from Tanzania came to her nearly all black school. This was like wow leading the tween to us us. Mona's been drawn to Africa. Ever since that day. She was part of the beginning of a wave of African Americans to visit Ghana after its independence and the civil rights movement in the US. Mona came here after she graduated from Boston. College as one of the first classes of African Americans we were constantly generation trying improve to white people that we will good enough. We were smarter that we deserve to be there. That was a huge burden. We had to prove that to every white person we went every job we had but after I had gone through those castles. I think you're what you thought. You just couldn't define me anymore to be honest with you. I just felt I am from and incredible group of people. We not only survive the slavery. We we thrive we. You know we we fought and we thrived you know and it made me feel so proud of a promise. I never felt before that just made it more jarring to realize the Ghanaian saw that history very differently most Africans. When I came to this country would not admit that this even happened? It was black. It didn't happen you know. They just couldn't talk about it. They couldn't admit it. We'll come back to Mona but to understand what she experienced. I went to see a local historian. WHO's was also a former mayor of tissue people around here affectionately? Call him uncle net. I asked him to go back to the beginning to win. The transatlantic slave trade began uncle. That explains that leaders in this region had a lot of gold and word got back to Europeans in the fourteen hundreds the Portuguese. He's showed up here. With God's primitive guns but guns with guns do vastly superior form of intimidation with a hell of a difference. There was already a domestic slave trade when they arrived uncle. Net says although slavery didn't mean what it came to mean in America enslaved people oh had some rights and opportunities still dissimilar resisted the European soy. And so that we can try these people in our lands. It's in the new world but uncle nat says the Europeans were going out and capturing Africans they couldn't they got sick and died from illnesses like like malaria so some African ethnic groups went into business warring with other groups so they could capture prisoners they sold as slaves to the Europeans ankle. Net says they were organized and intentional about it to pursue slavery successfully. You need a highly organized group because because somebody has to go out somebody has locates victims. Somebody has to lead an army there. Somebody has a cup tie them transport them to the selling centers auditing keep an eye on then to make sure they don't revolt and then sell them and move on. Anyone could be captured and taken. Eventually the Portuguese were replaced by the Dutch then the British in Ghana then around the world came the abolitionist movement. The French revolution pollution and increasing revolts. By enslaved people all spreading ideas about equality and humanity. Live fleet was abolished. It was a result of the long negotiations with sleeve. Onus Europe live on its here the big slave holding missions also demanded payments the British went from being at the center of the slave trade in Ghana to after abolition patrolling. Rolling the coast to make sure no illegal slave ships got by. They made treaties with African chiefs to protect them from other ethnic groups in a series of wars uncle. Net says the British use those agreements to eventually declare themselves the colonial rulers flag and claimed that they were now so it was eighteen. Seventy four art during British rule. Uncle Net says the African role in the slave trade was deliberately forgotten. Fool a MUSEU- aborts roles that we've played this live trade a willful Amisi chiefs and peoples decided. All right we will not talk about. Don't ask don't tell the created a mythology that were innocent bystanders whose land was raped six. The British ruled for eight years in nineteen fifty seven Ghana broke away and declared independence. Uncle was in his first year at university. Do you and some friends were asked to serve as guides so I remember when we ask us so who sold we sit all the bad people thieves and drunkards. They were just making it up. Because they didn't actually know what had happened especially since the history had never really been taught a what's history was taught was very sanitized. Just a disaster lot of African Americans with very disappointed to find this skurdal. And that's how Mona Boyd reacted after visiting Ghana. After College. She went back to Boston and met her gun in husband Eric. She went into real estate. Eric was in. It soon they were both making six figures living in a Brownstone in Boston's historic south end. Where they could walk to the symphony fanie trying to get pregnant? When the Rodney King thing happened with three police officers facing felony criminal charges were among a group of fifteen who stopped a twenty five year? Your old black man. Last Saturday night then beat him. Kicked him and clubbed him unaware that an amateur photographer was recording the incident on videotape. It was nineteen nineteen ninety-one. She remembers watching that video of Los Angeles. Police beating came after a traffic stop. I remember weeping weeping. We've been and I said to my husband. I'm not I'm getting get pregnant. If you don't agree to move back to Africa to raise our son. Why should we raise our son here when our son can go to your your country where he will not be marginalized in any way he can be king? Her husband agreed their sons. Lhasa was born later that year. Ghana was emerging emerging from a period of military coups. Mona and her husband waited until the country had a successful democratic election than they moved. When's lassie was eighteen months old? I was was able to let go that conscious thought about race. Is it race is it by color is it. Are they going to. You know I was able to leave that. And it was like having a psychic burden taken off of your shoulders and you could just move. Mona didn't realize she had more of that psychic burden to shed until a few years later later in one thousand nine hundred four then gun in president. Jerry Rawlings apologized for the African role in slavery other leaders chiefs slowly followed Rawlings and gave their Own Apologies I wish at this point to particularly to pull against deeply on behalf of the chiefs and people of Glucose and Ghana for the atrocities their cruelty. The human treatment that we're committed four hundred years ago this during the Atlantic slave trade and it just made me feel so much better. I start feeling resentful resentful towards Africans about slavery because I knew that Africans had collaborated. Big Time you know. It was always in the back of my mind. Oh are we going to create a trust issue and a little bit resentment was always there. She's helping other. African Americans have a similar healing experience. Her company takes tourists to a northern. The village that used to be a notorious slave market there Mona arranged for the chiefs to hold. What Mona Call? Culturally authentic atonement ceremonies. Beef is a very emotional thing that we do because for the first time Africans are sent to African descendants of the slaves. We're sorry forgive us. She thinks that's necessary because otherwise Kim just never clear this up you know you have people hating each other for centuries in killing each of the facility because there's no reconciliation. African elders washed visitors. beat they eat together. Black Americans get African names. There's drumming in dancing this year. More than one hundred people are going through the process. Understand what happened to black people. You know really what happened and what butt-black people lost you know. They took the bribes the best strongest from this continent. So what would have happened. Half those people not enough discussion. What was this continent like? Maybe in a way they'll find out now. If more African descendants around the world follow Mona's path percents lasi awesome has chosen to stay in Ghana and pursue a career in music producing even though his mother would have preferred him to stay in the US. After College I thought he would have a better opportunity. I thought he learn faster there and he said to me Nope I am not going back there. I do not wanna live in a country where they put thirty percent of the men that looked like me and shell the reason. Mona came to Ghana thirty years. Ago Is the same reason saucy is staying now four hundred years. After the first captive Africans were taken in from their continent and enslaved in Virginia the. US still is into place. Mona's family wants to be I'm Marco. Werman you're with the world old. We're reflecting today on four hundred years since the first enslaved Africans were taken to the Virginia Colony's and revisiting a couple of stories where you originally aired earlier this year here again is Rupa Shenoy with the story of one woman literally unearthing that passed and finding connections to the present and that Rachel when I drove out to theatre. We're in central Massachusetts. It's an article. She wrote about her work in Ghana. Rachel is Ghanaian and English. She grew up in Singapore. And is now a professor at Hampshire Hampshire College. Her article was about finding her own. Last name Ingman at a slave castle where she's doing an archaeological dig so we met and agreed to meet again at the dig site in Accra. That's how I ended up going to Ghana and that's where the story starts. Nice to see we be Rachel. Amen just outside and walk together through a checkpoint inside is Christiansborg Castle. It's Mesko World Heritage site the lower levels or the dungeons where many captive Africans died in Cabo sells. It feels like you're suffocating here. The Dutch had this place built in the sixteen and in seventeen hundreds they used it to transport and sell one hundred twenty five thousand Africans into slavery most in what today is the US Virgin Islands. It wouldn't stay here after nightfall after dark. I always leave at about five thirty six. Do Ghost the people here sounds people here. The Footsteps People hit crying railroads raised in Singapore and began visiting here in two thousand and five one of her Ghanaian ons told her there was something At this castle she should see she said to me. Oh you're interested in culture you should go to the castle and see she said. See Your name on the wall. Rachel found the name name in the castle courtyard inscribed on the side of a water cistern. It's Senator Carl Gustaf Seventeen fifty-seven Rachel had heard a person with that name in her family. History Danish man who came here when the Danes occupied the area understanding that he was a missionary. That was the family lower but Rachel found Carl. Gustaf Hangman's papers in the National Archives in Denmark missionary. who was the governor for five years that Amen Amen oversaw the sale of captive Africans? He was on the board of the Danish slave trading company and he owned enslaved people himself. That didn't keeping men from also marrying an African Chakai. The daughter of a chief of the local ethnic group England later returned to Denmark but not before he and a Shokai started the inman line in Ghana. The family line that generations later produced Rachel's father and Rachel she. She's still trying to understand how she feels about being the direct descendant of slavers. This will sound like I'm avoiding it which I'm not really but I think I I need time to process this but finding that name in a way tied her to this castle retail wanted to know more about it and she was looking for a subject to focus focus on her graduate studies. She went to the gun and president to ask for permission to do an archaeological dig walk through the Castle Gardens the trench and find Rachel's team at work their local men and one woman rails trying to recruit more many are direct descendants insular Danish men who married women in the local ethnic group. Rachel's hoping her team can use the skills. They've learned here to get other jobs. My hope would be that that can help creek deployment because many of them have not worked since last year not a single day's work jobs. One of the team members. His name is Benjamin Gimeno Dinka an-and he lives in the neighborhood right next to the castle we take a walk there. Originally a fishing village decades slater. It's now one of the most impoverished neighborhoods people who live here often. Don't get a formal education on the beach. dumpsters full of trash the the castle looms behind them also because of archaeology he has more money. He's sending his three boys Richmond. Jonathan and Ave to private school. I asked Benjamin what he thinks about money. Being spent to unearth the past on one side of the castle wall while on the other side he and his community could really use the cash. He says if the castles turned into a museum as the government plans. It'll enrich the whole area. Although Benjamin and other workers haven't gotten any guaranteed because of type Rachel shows artifacts. They've gathered so far that the government hopes to feature in the museum there sorted into labeled boxes in her office high the castle she sound items from Africa Europe and Asia. Some need to go to a lab to be dated. Put this under the microscope. And then I can track the the trademark so which country which which town which manufactured the most of the pieces collected come from the Danish slave period some of these items were traded for people. They would come here then they would refit the ship and then takes them one day. These pieces might help. Historians understand what the value of a human in life was during the transatlantic slave trade the digs funded by grants and awards from the US. But it's nice that final the funded the way that I think it should be run as we walk back to the dig site. Rachel explains that this project could help fill in the broad gaps in established history an African history. That's largely based on European accounts. So you know they're not going to mention Shen a lot of things but you know clearly. They were having relationships with People because otherwise. You wouldn't have members of my team with these Danish names myself itself with the Danish name but you know they never going to write in the correspondence going back to Copenhagen you know like Oh i married someone or shut up with someone. European accounts usually really don't mention the Ghanaian who lived and worked with the slavers or the thriving local community that did business with them. But the items Rachel's collected show oh they existed and so. I think this is difficult for people for people to accept because whenever people want to talk about about slavery or slave trade and we want to talk about African agency is always about resistance and my project is not one of resistance. It's one of collaboration. Some Africans Africans acted out of self interest and sold their fellow countrymen some Europeans both enslaved Africans and married them. Rachel says it may be easier to think that people who participated in the slave trade were simply bad or evil but the truth is much more complex for the World Rupa Shenoy Accra Ghana and before we go today. We'd like to extend a special thank you to Margarite. Steed Hoffman the served on our board for ten years. We are forever grateful for her extraordinary leadership and generosity to the world. Margarita is a tireless champion of the highest quality journalism especially stories with a global perspective. Her support has had a significant impact on our work. And we believe well beyond our newsroom on behalf half of all of us at the world. Thank you very much marguerite and that's where we're going to leave it today from the non and Bill Harris Studio in Boston. I'm Marco Werman. We'll be back with you on Monday. The the world is a CO production of W. H. Boston the B._B._C.. World Service P._R._I. and P._X..

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F*ck Corona, New NFL Rules, and Plenty of Rants

Real_Sports: A Snapchat Sports Pod

44:41 min | 11 months ago

F*ck Corona, New NFL Rules, and Plenty of Rants

"What up snapback FAM- welcome back to another episode of the snap exports. Did I mention the number for sports podcasts? In the world right now while we are thanks to the fans that thank you all for listening in. You know. We're going to talk about. It's the virus that's dividing the country and but there was a new. Cba sign in the NFL. And we have you know some Monday mailbag stuff. So let's get it. Blue Line the Baltimore Ravens. Select Lamar Jackson is all all you. Every kitchen takes it himself Philadelphia. The Old Bryant put the jumper. How Am Jackson from setbacks? Worked on snapchat. Join me today. And there's always is my co-host longtime best friend a grant off Abe. How you doing buddy? That was way way too. Energetic of a intro for how the for that was so unsympathetic of you so for everyone listening to this podcast for you to come in guns hot with all the energy in the world when we are just in the worst times in human history with literally nothing to do and you bring that bullshit. You've got a Lotta nerve all right. So here's here's the stipulation we have to entertain. That's our duty on earth right now. Duty No toilet paper and she stops you keep doing. You're doing it again. We're going to go into our rent about our sadness and depression that we're facing right. We need to make it funny and entertaining because honestly like I'm posting on my snap all day long and people are like Dude. Just make content please. I'm like Shi- do this. Like yes just do anything to keep. Us entertained so playstation. You're going out of your mind. I box right. I've been xbox literally since the day I was born but take it away. If there's just nothing to take away Jack. We're in the worst times in human history. I am on a four or Jesus thing is won't end. I am on day. Four of no sports and I'm going that Shit Insane. I do not know what to do with myself. I don't know what to do with my hands. I almost considered reading a book. I just don't know what to do. I'm watching corny reality. Tv shows on Netflix. Start love is blind so I'll let you guys know how that goes but what was happening. What is going on? There's so many elements of life that you never even understood where sports really impacted. Obviously you have the the obvious ones. Which is today is Sunday. We should have had our brackets right now. Filling out are almost like stat. Everyone in the back. But that's literally were recording stabbing. Since we hit record we should be talking about our brackets. Which makes me you know. Just kind of hurt inside. But it's like my parents who are big sports fans but they like to watch the Ravens and they like to watch you know the prime time game. They don't really care if it's Sunday at three o'clock and there's you know a golf tournament on but they don't know what to put on the screen if they're just hanging eating lunch like second nature to have sports on the television entertaining and we just don't have that right now the CDC just came out and said stop recommendation eight weeks. It's just a recommendation. We both don't normally listen to ride. I actually saw when someone sent me that someone sent me that. How many times do you go to the doctor here? And they recommend you to do something I mean how many times untold recommended to floss. And do I ever floss at. Sometimes they give him those little toothpick ones. They pull up a piece of flying. You're telling me I'm GONNA cut a piece of floss. Get a double sided. You should see me right now but I could never never even cut it right. Yeah I would never fall off the point being. That's recommendation. Maybe what's going that the Commissioners Ryan these lease a little smarter than US and they don't really have a choice so we're trying to figure out right now ten. Let's do the math so let's take an NBA game. There's about twelve players on an active roster. Is that correct but I think fifteen. Fill the bench or something. Fifteen per side. Four coaches per side. That's already math man. That's thirty eight people. There's no sports and now you're trying to make me do math. There's three refs. That's why you need four video people and can you get it under fifty with would need trainers there. It's just not possibly can't get under fifty which means that is effectively going to delay as if leagues listen. It's going to last till May. At what point do you just give up on the season show Chelsea? I mean honestly. I literally speechless. So let me give you. Let me give you a more fun. One so Liverpool is leading the premier league. If the Games happened this weekend and they want and city didn't win. They would have had a chance to win. The League the Premier League for the first time ever there now at a situation. Where what do you do like like? Yes the Lakers. And the bucks and clippers and all them are the best teams in the League. But they're not like no one knows who was actually GonNa make the finals sixers. I have officially granted. Lebron his fourth rank because I congratulate him before. So we're going to give it to the lake okay. Point being that like Liverpool is literally like four six points away from winning the League for the first time ever. But you can't just say they win. You can't do that. It's not the right thing to do. But what happens is the premier league has to cancel because then Champions League gets pushed back and they're almost into the new season already. It's funny it's funny. You say this because I actually today. I went through my my betting account and I looked at all my futures I had and I literally said I think I should be paid for every single one of these as if they want in my mind. What do you have? I have. Dc Defenders Championship lock. What was their record? Three to head of the division with. I think that Houston team was dominant. I think. Pg was if you're not making my case. But then I had a few sixers overs. Ben What got healthy you know that would ended I didn't have sixers championship. Because I usually don't do that. I had some I. I actually did have some Miami Heat overs and then division What else did I have? I had so ironically I had pacers to win the east and the title before we even have miles on the pod. So I didn't really. I don't know if it would've made sense to bring that up to him. I feel like that's kind of against the rules but I agree. They were locked to win the east and Mybookie should send me all that money. I have question. Where do you stand on this whole thing? Not even relative to sports just like the severe. I mean don't get me wrong. It's very it's a pandemic like you can't take that word lightly but I think there's a very fine line between taking it seriously and going full out bug out mode and getting in your own head. So yeah that's a I appreciate you asking my opinion and So I mean we could literally talk for four hours on this but to keep it short. There's nothing else to do. That's true but one if you're bulk buying toilet paper and water you're an idiot and it's as simple as that. The virus is not in the water that you're filtering from your tap or your sing. So buying cases of water is literally the biggest waste of money all time. Okay now that we got that or way. I shouldn't before you continue. Yeah did you sub tweet because you definitely sub tweeted my mom did you just your own mother. No my mom's now. We have a fridge that dispenses water. Like there's flex I mean. That's the flaxseed in this day and age honestly it's like do you want a pair of the new Jordan's or do you want toilet. Paper and Hanson. It's is it so anyone buying water bottles why I would like you to me and let me know why you need water bottles because this virus does not. It's doesn't affect the water number two the toilet paper okay. This one I guess. In theory people just want to be able to wipe their parts. But like if your belief is that you're not gonna be able to get to a grocery store or any sort of any kind then you should probably be focusing on food and food is selling out the number one product being so right now is toilet paper. Take a take an old shirt. Cut it up or or or get straight into the show like there's things you can do to combat this whole toilet paper thing. You can't just cut shirts up and make food out of nothing. Go to the grocery store by should food and save it for yourself. You don't need toilet paper. You don't need water okay. That's my ran on that in terms of what I think the whole thing. I think it's I think it's just like an example of America being dumb. There's like a ton of professional doctors that keep reiterating how serious this is. There's multibillion dollar businesses the NBA The NCW who have shut down their businesses. Like we talked about how money hungry. Nc Double A.'s. All the time they shut down because they had no other choice but to listen to the advice of how professionals and then we just see young people cough cough not KRONA COUGH COUGH COUGH COUGH. Abe going out and potentially spreading the virus. It's as simple as this. Just stay at a buddy's okay. I'm not like I had buddies birthday. I understand but we're at the point where itself and I'm not talking about you specifically I'm talking about your name definitely talked about you as part of it but you're not the only problem. It's the hundreds of thousands of people who are out of bars. Yeah the twenty five year olds and it is now hitting younger people. That's a misconception. That's only if you're super bowl but it's those people that can transfer it to older and there's just not everyone's like oh two percent okay to present our countries like one hundred million. It's like fifty million people. I don't know the math. You'll do that but there's only a million hospital beds so if people get sick it's not like it's very. I think John Sports are done like if it wasn't that serious than that wouldn't be the case but it is taking. I think what you I think what you just said. I WanNa point to where you talked about. The amount of hospital beds are because I think that's not that's the severity. That people aren't understanding is yes. It may only be X. amount of percent but like you said there's only so many hospital beds to go around for people in our healthcare system and I don't want political and everything I did bet on the democratic debate tonight though. Also that's crazy I'm going but it's not like these other illnesses like a car accident or something just stopped and the only thing that's consuming hospitals are that's a very good point thrown a virus cases there. They're not stopping. It's exponentially that many more people and we already know how crowded hospitals are nowadays with people. That are sick so I think. That's the really big misconceptions how our healthcare system is handling it. This is going down a dirty road. But it's just like like look at everyone else around the country. Italy's in lockdown Spain's in lockdown and the rest of America and. I'm not saying everyone's like that but there's a majority or a part of America that just like like it's not gonNa Affect me whatever. This is a serious problem to stay at home. Wash your hands get food if you WANNA go buy toilet paper. If there's any left out there go buy toilet. Paper Sell It on Stock X. Make a profit but this is a real thing so push push toilet paper. W I mean there's people who are reselling this stuff which is just like sad. Like don't don't do that. Don't be that I think we spent a lot of time not talking. I mean giving our two cents about the disease or not the disease. The pandemic thought I do need to give. I do need to plug something real quick. One of my buddies is that Mount Sinai Medical School one of the best medical schools in the country. And he's obviously takes this very seriously because he actually enjoys learning about like. He's that's what he wants to do for his life. He isn't instagram. Account called healthcare huddle check it out. It's like a little five minute. Read on the healthcare. Say the United States Something you read on the toilet in the morning awesome INSTAGRAM CHECK. It out healthcare huddle and is he talking about cuvee. Yeah I call it. Covy. I don't know why I can't call. I've caught a Rona. I've call it. He said he wrote in our group. May this huge thing today about how what's going on around the world and how people like to take it seriously? Definitely the I like your case in point out essentially but like I mean what he says. Hold a little weight because I mean this is what he does. He's the smartest kid I know. Sound like a graph with some numbers on it. So I didn't really into I`ll. I'll finish this. That's my upset. I didn't technically answer your question to answer your question is I'm not freaking out about myself or anyone in my house right now because I feel comfortable with my physical wellbeing we have the resources the doctors right but I am taking it very seriously in terms of how I can spread it and what the situation is so. I'm not for you now but I'm freaking out about the the rest of the country. I'm freaking out that there's nothing to put on my television screen selfish or not. That is what I'm freaking out about. Dude I don't Care Gimme the MLS. I'll watch true all right well with that being said we did at least get a little dose of sports news today which was really exciting the NFL and NFL PA by a slim margin but a margin on the last agreed to a new CBA which means we will not have lockout for ten years. We will now have an extra playoff team per conference and that comes into effect actually in this season and then the season after they're going to add a regular season game. I didn't see anything about an extra by anywhere. Do I know they cut preseason the three now that's all. I saw the preseason to three. I don't think they gave a another by mean. Listen in these times. The last thing we needed was a shutdown that had nothing to do with Corona and. I mean a wins a win. We have football whether you like. The rules are not for the League. That's a different story. I think it's very interesting thing to see that how slim the margin wasn't how divided the players were. Because in my opinion the this deal is best for these low level. Guys that are playing practice squad where they're really fighting for a chance. Some of them are living paycheck to pay. Would you just elaborate on the terms? I know don't have the full contract funny but like what you're speaking to specifically because I didn't mention that I'm getting there okay. So so one of the stipulations of the CBI was a higher revenue share for the players so basic math. Say there's one hundred million dollars in revenue I think they opted by one and a half percent or something and the players getting like forty nine point one percent of that pot so forty nine point one million whereas the owners are getting the remaining fifty point nine. Hopefully that adds up. That was awful continue. Continue Fifty eight fifty eight point okay but bottom line so my point. Is these practice squad. Guys that are getting that are some of them are just grinded weekend week out. They don't know if they'll have a job or not. They're getting a raise minimum salary whereas kind of hurts these top tier guys in a way. Because there's more capital around so they're losing their money other positions become in terms of a football standpoint. I mean it's more competitive football so as a fan. What more can you ask for? You know what I mean. You can get down to the nitty-gritty about another regular season game or Just the the extra playoff team. But we're getting seventeen weeks of meaningful football and none of us really give two shits about the preseason so as a fan obviously you love it. It's good to be weird giving predictions and not predicting someone to be eight and eight. That's something that's GonNa do. Now what are they do? Yeah exactly that is something we'll get into the titans but that is something that it'll take my that. That's something that the fans have to work on. That's their part of the series. There's almost no average anymore above or slightly. We'll probably get we'll get used to it by the time the next. Cbs rolls around. But it's take some mental strength on our end so the one thing of note is the new playoff structure and that the one seed will only will be the only team that receives a by the an the champion. This year was the chiefs. They were the two seed and they would play the steelers. And you know I mean. The steelers wouldn't have beat them. They're terrible but changes things right. The chiefs had a by got to avoid the Ravens. They got to only Houston on the Titan. So that's definitely unchanged. Let's go through. I just WanNa read off like over. The past few years who those succeeds would have been so this your seventies rather this year would have been the rams. Say you're already. You're already messing up. What I mean I. It's it's a change. There's no doubt about that It's honestly like a monumental change. Almost half the league now is going against the playoffs when it felt like the. Nfl is the one league where that's like. One of my. That's one of my call. It a bugaboo about it. Is that whole thing yet? We talked about that a while ago. The rams nine and seven They would have gone to the saints. I believe you know who was the two seat. So the packers are the packers so like I know maybe the rams have a rushing attack that could dethrone the packers. The was the steelers with duck hunters in the Ravens. Beat THEM BY THIRTY. Three like the chiefs. Would I mean just wash them the year before this one will hit home for you? The Vikings team that lost on the final day. That guy you guys in the playoff they would have been in as the seven seed And they would have gone to face that rams team that went to the Super Bowl and then on the AFC so a fun fact is the steelers would have been like in the playoffs every single year. One hundred this format so they would have been nine six and one they would win back in and listen to this. The Patriots won the Super Bowl two years ago. And they were the two seed they would have had to face a steelers team of snuck in with Big Ben Juju and a good James Connor. That's intriguing. I mean it's a wild card. It's another weaken of wildcard football. It's unbelievable I wanna I WANNA like they're saying it's only one more game. What does it matter one? Nfl game being added to the season is the equivalent of five more MBA aims to put down perspective when we already complain about how long the NBA is just wanted to put that into comparison. So are you saying? It's like the physical toll because no one's complaining that like. Hey and you have to watch basketball so no one would like. That's one of that's one of the. That's one of the things that the players were. There was an argument. The players behalf like yeah. We're one extra game of what I go through on a weekly basis and literally in my life because we've seen like CD and everything. Is it worth the one percent more that I'll be getting and who even knows of I'm GonNa get a portion that one percent or if it's going to go to these younger guys because these guys at that there signing deals right now there signing deals onto the past. Cba You know what I mean. And that's why the free agency period we're waiting on that so That's one of the things that the players do. They WANNA play an extra week of football. Yeah they love it but it's a job now it's a job you could see players sitting out maybe a little more not low managing but I saw take like I saw that was like I don't know if it was a take or someone said that it was a possibility that every player you can every can only play sixteen games. That's interesting imagine even like you have to pick which came your quarterbacks. That'd be a fun activity. I will say some. They've note that could help. These PLAYERS MAY BE SKIP. A game have double by week. Is that now that there's only one one seed like yeah the NFC. This year was super competitive for but the Ravens did win the ones you buy a couple of games like the NFC like the seating Two three four now doesn't quite. I mean it's still matters because you can get home field in different scenarios but it's not as important for like that pack to fight for the two seed when you're not even getting a buy from it so maybe it does ease up on the importance. Which would be a bummer. And you'd hate to see like all these guys sitting out someone did ask me. How's IT changed fantasy? I didn't think it would but now thinking about it. You know maybe players to sit out week fourteen or fifteen as the resting. So we'll see it's all going to be old rest verse rust to the next level. One of my favorite Commerce Nice Today. I was watching. Espn this morning. I still just naturally put it on. Even though I know there's going to be nothing on there like even I go to my apps and stuff to check. Scores like like just mentally. It's just naturally. It's what I do WanNa daily basis and I'm watching. Espn this morning. Hoping something Adam schefter comes on the screen. He's talking about. How new becoming an any minute about the deal? And that he hasn't heard anything yet and he thinks that no news is bad news. Meaning that would've went to a lockout then five minutes later in the dark times Adam Schefter on the screen saying if there is an NFL season. We're GONNA play it. We're not going to walk out so it was nice that we had that glimmer of hope. In my day there was a lot of activities speaking of witch the ravens with little thievery from the Jacksonville. Jaguars the JAGS ARE DUMPING ASSETS. Like people normally dump toilet paper although they're not anymore Class Campbell for fifth round. Pick the ravens have to pay him and he's thirty three so that's kind of why they got him with a cheaper price tag fifth round. I would say is Super Go. Price though Especially because we're in a win now Window that we always talk about. That was a huge move for the ravens but the any comments on that I mean you sent to me. I won't in the middle of them. What was my reaction said. Damn they just met a good ass. Deal douse the way. He's he's a pro baller you him. For A fifth round pick you turn to fifth round picks one of the best corner. Yeah we do have to pay them. But you're right. We gotTA come pick at number five the fifth round and we traded so our kicker fed vic had an incredible preseason through two games we trade him to the Vikings for a fifth rounder. He doesn't even make the Vikings. We use one of those two get class. We use one of them's again. Marcus Peters that's just a masterclass from Eric Decosta. So good job by him building for our two year window to win a title before we had to pay the baby go but one team did make a decision to pay their quarterback and man. Oh man today mess up because they see championship. You know that. That Ma'am Ryan. Tannehill is not a franchise quarterback. He just isn't he got hot for six games and he got paid and Nick foles did it but he did it in Super Bowl Joe flacco. He did it to. When is this due to Navy Championship? He Rode a Defense. That somehow played well. And Derrick. Henry who was literally unstoppable. What are the titans thinking here? This is great. This is my face lit up this one because I saw his contract numbers next to Carson Wentz and looked at annual year value. And it kind of made me smile. I mean that we knew this was going to happen though. It's just like it's how it works. You don't have to be good. I disagree I hold off so confused on what happened with Tom Brady. And all these hold honors hold on you do not. I'll get into that you do not have to be good to get paid in the NFL. You only a I should correct this out. You have to be no. You don't have to be good. You really just have be average and get a little luck and you will get absolutely paid. Ryan. Tannehill should be an inspiration to every person in the NFL. I know sounding like a loser. Not a winner dude. That guy is hosting is way with. No expectations with no way has expectations. What are you expecting Ryan Townhouse House? Jack well the titans and the titans fans are gonna be expecting big things. They're going to expect him. If I mean one titans fan who was expecting something bigger Ryan Tannehill. I would love to have him on the PODCAST. Oh my God you totally. I think they were. There's tons of them. That's the way you're expecting when you pay that type of money to a guy for those types of guys. Those types of guys are the people that wanted to keep nick foles over Carson wentz would still would have been a good decision Read some out you up the Monday Monday male but all right so this is kind of a honestly depressing ad because there's less Tibet on but it's our good friends at bed online there's no currently no NBA Nhl College basketball. You might think there's nothing to bet on. Well you'd be wrong. Bet Online still has hundreds of places to wager from their online casinos poker and blackjack all open twenty four hours a day and all online sports aren't totally done may get that tattooed on me. We're still mixed martial arts and sports on the rise if you're into entertainment you can still bent on the American idol. The elections the spelling bee. And even the Nathan's hot dog eating contest. Be sure to use Promo Code. Blue Wire to receive fifty percent off your welcome bonus on your first deposit bell mine. Your new ticket online action. He was kind of depressing Money mailbag time though more fun. They're still sports in our future. We don't know when but there are You know I guess. One day I don't know all right Recurring question guests. Nate UNDERSCORE REESE ONE. Two eight seven with the NBA season finished. I vote I'm Gonna I'm just GONNA say yes. He saw what was tweeted about an hour ago what he tweeted that the NBA owners. Let me get this up so Botch it but something about the NBA owners yeah NBA owners and executives believe a best case scenario is a mid to late June. Return with no fans so that is what would you did and one hour ago so. That's a little bit to hang on to do. I think it'll it'll pick back up. Why not but yeah like I just have to. I have to sit out. I have to pray and hope to God and honestly I'm going to look back at this time. I'm going to say this right now. I'm going to look back at this time and say it was the best thing that ever happened to me. Because Ben Simmons back is going to get healthy and now I have that to hold onto. So that's the only positive I can spend on this but I'm going to say Yeah. It's coming back so let's hope let's stay strong. Abboud E H zero one. Do you have corona so? This is obviously a funny question. Well maybe it does but no one knows because we having gone tested. So that's the scary thing so funny question but is a serious issue right moving on someone just wrote sports are cool. Yeah man they really are the only actually what you're making that's like literally it's a reflecting period right now because we never knew you don't know what you have until it's gone. Yeah we St Stetson. John Paul asked what your guys thoughts on the new NFL format. We discussed that earlier in the pod. Joey distaste. He said I thought it was Sunday. Yes we record on Sunday but it's still Mondays mailbag I don't know man. There's really nothing on here. I'll pose a question that we can divulge into this from at Jack Settlement. I don't know why I was thinking about this. This further proves why there's just nothing going on but last night I'm lying in bed late at night and I'm wondering what is the most liked thing in the world. Meaning percentage wise if you pull one hundred people what what would pull out at one hundred percent or ninety nine percent because I think it stemmed from me thinking like our sports. The most like everyone feels so lost without sports. But we have to understand. There's people who don't even care about sports. This Crowley isn't affecting mentally so I'm GonNa say sports aren't the most like thing in the world to things top my head. I said pizza but then came to my mind but but this is why the question so deep and complex because pizza right like some people can't eat dairy. Some people are Vegan. So they can't eat you know regular pizza. Some people just don't like pizza so then I was like well. What's another thing? People love okay puppies but some people are cat people so those are the two I had on my list but I want to go back and forth at the figure Eric Cat Person. If you're a cat person yeah. They're definitely in the minority. Figure it out in the minority. We are a hand in podcast. We are an anti cats podcast. You can't deny that you know so I don't like dogs so putting on the spot what would you say top your head. What's like the most liked thing in the world? Okay so lemme what came to my head immediately just like my simple-minded brain was just okay what do I love selfishly? I was thinking pizza. Sour Patch. Kids sports. That's kind of what came to mind but taking a step back and actually looking at the scope of the question. I like it might be pizza. Nah It's definitely not pizza. If it's pizza I don't Know How you can stumble upon another like do we go go get say like. I don't WanNa get soppy but like someone could say family. You know what I mean right right but some families like Aaron Rodgers wouldn't pull out. Yeah that's a Corny answer before I'm saying wait a second. I figured it out Noga. It's money who but it's money. Okay I think you. Obviously there's going to be devil's advocate for every answer like someone's GonNa say money's role evil and people hate money but okay in the grant but in the total right like the the question poses if we pulled a hundred people I think money I really liked that one. Yeah I think that's a no brainer. I'll tell you what the is is not. The answer is not Tom Brady. Because there's no mark there's no market for him I what about the most light thing in the world is hatred for Corona virus? Like everyone is. There's other anti vaccines out there. Yeah there are anti vaccines out there. I was GONNA say the Sun but I think some people don't like the sun like ever seen the movie. Bench warmers. Exactly there are actually there are actually people have sun. Phobias finally won money phobia. Yeah money's while they're definitely people who say monies were voluble. That wasn't just made up so they don't WANNA million if I hand it to them exactly I'm trying to think of other potential things to tell you that's the answer What about like so? Here's the thing though. We already went deep into like okay. Pizza were steak or shrimp like those are examples. But what if I just said food because money is such a general topic that is it food? How many different types of money are there? How many different types of food are there? I know but money bigger. It's just a category. I see what saying is it because I suppose you is it. Spending money isn't making money. Is it having money right Hannity? It's having having money but some people don't like to have money they give it all what no. I don't know many people but there are a number gave me the number. So would you accept food as a general case to be like a combative to money? Or you're saying that I think that's a little bit more broad but I see what you're saying terms of guy will under that circumstance Ev- I guess if I offer people money or food they would say. What would your first question may money. 'cause I know your answer you would always ask a question I it would be. How much money. What type of Food Now if you said I'LL GIVE YOU MONEY. I would ask how much if I said I'm going to give you money or I'm going to give you food. You would just say money. Yes if is GONNA be a dollar and I said I'm going to give you a surf and turf. You're still taking the dollar. No because the value of serpent braves so you have to find out what the value so you would ask a question. I got me. No why would I need victory in the fact that there's nothing to win anymore? There's just nothing. We'll talk about that old quarterback. I don't know I mean Tom Brady. The titans obviously no longer. I saw report today that the niners are rather next season. Would you rather have Tom Brady Ryan Tannehill Tom. Brady not even remotely close not even like a convert. I'll take Tom Brady over. Jared Goff I would take Tom Brady over Mitch Trubisky. Obviously I would take Tom Brady over. Let's go through the for one year. A one off no circumstances. Let's go through each team and say what what team I wouldn't actually have brady over like would I rather Brady Garoppolo next season for one season. And you don't have to think about of the contract You would take Tom Ridge. Let's start in the. Fcc is giving you our yard. Go ahead hi. Tom Brady Steadham Tom Brady okay. Tom Brady or Josh Allen. Tom Brady Tom Brady or SAM. Darnold Tom Brady. Tom Brady or to a tag of ISLA. I'm assuming the dolphins imply he's not gonNA play. No hope what do you mean? He's not gonNA play. I don't think he'll next year. Okay Tom Brady Ryan Fitzpatrick or to a tag okay. Tom Brady or the baby. Goat baby go. Wow I'm proud of you Tom Brady or duck. Hodges just in Herbert or whoever they draft Brady. Tom Brady Baker Stop Doing Tom Brady. Tom Brady or Joe Borough for one year. The rookie of the Vet Tom Brady. Tom Brady are Watson. And will you know. We're an anti Watson Pot. Not Anti Watson. We're just realistic. Lots to Shawn Watson. Okay Tom Brady or Ryan Tannehill. We said Tom Brady. Tom Brady Jacoby were said we. I mean Tom Brady. Tom Brady or nick. Foles or winches is gut reaction. I'm looking back and I'm having second thoughts but continue about what he sucks. Tom Brady Yep okay fine. Even if he sucks you're still taking over everyone we've listed besides Lamar. Let's have all right. Let's team you know Tom Brady. Your Mom's obviously MOMS. Tom Brady drew. Lock Lock. That's my job. Stop he brought. Did you see that video? Never seen a do get more love because he danced on the sidelines. Like everyone thinks is a franchise quarterback. That's a franchise quarterback drew bradier. Dare Car Tom Brady. Tom Brady Rivers Brady or Wentz. Shut up brady deck of how you agree. Yeah Bradier Data Dak really. Yeah Okay Brady or Daniel Jones for one year Tom Brady Brady haskins brady brady or Rogers Rogers. I don't know I know you don't be wrong. Okay but then. I'm saying Kirk cousins over Tom. Brady Okay Oh how are we gonNA ARE? You okay with being kirk cousins pod. Because that's what I'm going to be next year I do love Applebee's Okay Bradier Mitch. Bradier Stafford Brady of Res Stafford by the way no not suffer. What can't stay healthy has never won a single thing. I'm still going to Tom. Brady I actually have a big staff fan but at this point. Stafford you know staff. Yeah I know it was like top. Five in every category every. That's how big of a loser like that. I think he's a victim of a bad since. I'm Jaffer guy that's US tra. I would take Stafford over Tom. Brady Brady Tom Brady or drew. Brees breeze this division is actually crazy interesting all four so you're on breed of your awful next year. It's going to be awful next year though. That's fine but you're gonNA breeze over Brady Matt Ryan Deliberate Matt Ryan Jameis Winston. Are Tom. Brady I love Jamie Cam Newton or Tom Brady I don't really consider camel football player anymore. That's a complicated division. And then the last one is Jimmy G. or Tom Tom I don't know I'm still Jimmy. G. Guy The guy miss one throw but Tom Probably makes It's it's it's anti niners for me. So yes Brian Ross. Ross over him I take radio over. Goff and I think I actually might go. I actually talk. I think I would take. I think I'd take off. No Dude are you kidding me? Tom Brady in A. Sean McVeigh off and Jack Jack. We're not talking about situations were talking we are. We are now. We're now. You're assuming they're in the I'm saying we're not talking about like the contract situation. We're saying if you go that way. It changed the game that would change the guy. What team would that have changed? If I'm just thinking like if I put Tom Brady on the cowboys. Yeah that's what you're supposed to do. I didn't know I was just saying quarterback for one year doesn't out of the team who would I want got the other fifty two players radio or cuyler? I'm Mike Brady. I'm a big fan walk. Point being is still better than twenty other quarterbacks in the League but no I don't really know if he's he's pretty bad but yeah it's coming down to what New England in Tampa Bay. We all knew it was going back to England to. He's been going back to knowing but the one thing people said is that Well NOT PEOPLE I said. I said Tom Brady was wash. I started the Tom. Brady is wash train. I was correct until I actually Max. Kellerman did that about three super bowls ago. Well that's a different scenario. But I I said he was wash when we smoke them in Baltimore. He's I thought he was washed. Then I watch the playoff game and they barely scored but man. They had no line and no weapons. He's washed in terms of like. Yeah he's not. Currently the greatest quarterback of all time he can still wing it and he can still play and I trust him in clutch situations so I am Adil crossing my fingers. I am still crossing my fingers. I don't think it's GonNa Happen but I'm still holding out. Hope that he goes to the chargers. Why because I wanted to play with Austin Okay. And that maybe we could get him on the POD. I don't even one time on. You don't know well. Let's let's close this because I actually can't come on Tom. You can't come on. That's just not true. Tom Feel free to text me. You can come on out kicking off. I texted you. I said I don't care if we can get Lebron James and the pod. I would rather have sports back today. And you said that's crazy. So what do we think I think if I could have march madness if I could be filling out my bracket watching march worst part of your life but the worst part about honestly that's hit me? The hardest is that there won't be a one shining moment. There's nothing except Darren novell's video. Did you see that? You're lucky? Lucky I actually thought it was entertaining. But that's how sad of sports it is right now I would give up. What is Li- Weirdo? What does that Weirdo doing well? He always creates content similar to sports but he doesn't need to happen Point being I would give up. Lebron James Coming on the snap exports pot even semantic Innis back to number one on the charts to just be able to fill out a bracket. Watch them you have. What if it was? What if it was in person That's definitely took like wild coronas on at I can we DA- pup can we DAB up at his house you can. You can go to his house you can go to Taco Tuesday. I get to sit with Savannah Brownie. 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Hour 2: Kyrie Loses First Game Back

"We are busy on this thursday morning as we welcome you back to another hour. Get up as always live. From above the heineken river deck appear seventeen. We had unbelievable hoops last night and we are four days away from the. Nfl's final four. Let's go. It's time to get up with kyrie irving back and better than ever goes off in his return. Game double overtime. You need to see and you will highlights around the way then. Patrick protocol progress. The very latest on the chances. Mr mahomes plays on sunday spoiler alert. The concussion may not be the biggest concern. And then i have put together a top ten list about tom brady that i absolutely promised is going to blow your mind all that and more on the way as we get up with you continuing right now with this. Aaron rodgers set to play in his fifth. Nfc championship game in pursuit of his second super bowl. Rogers who was the presumptive regan. Bp this year was talking about his future yesterday. You need to hear this pressure on me. It's it is a beautiful mystery than what happens down the line W w time that future future is a beautiful mystery while the best of all detectives is our adam schefter and he's played so well and he's going to win the mvp and he might go to super bowl. That i think we have forgotten that the packers have already put in place plans for his re ultimate replacement shefty. What how should we be viewing errands future in green bay right now. Listen when he's playing at the level he is. There's nothing to view he's there. He's the cornerback. You're going to move off from a quarterback who's the best player in the league right now who's playing an mvp level. Who maybe never played better than he has at this particular point in time so again. It's fun to talk about. It's fun to wonder about. They drafted jordan love but they got an interesting championship game here on sunday. He's trying to build on the legacy that he's already created in green bay. Why is future even a topic right now. What's the idea that. what am i missing. I will tell you why. Because i have. I find it tough to picture. If that aaron rodgers is going to sit there and say oh sure you guys drafted my replacement. I'm going to just play as long as i can as you guys continue to want me here and then figure out my future when you decide that i've served my purpose. He said beautiful mystery yesterday. I think those are those are interesting words. Well it's it's well said i as a wordsmith a man who used to work at newspapers for sixty years. I wish i could craft this story. Come words is nice as aaron rodgers. He can play quarterback better than me. Come up with words better me. I'm insulted i'm quitting. That's let me to you. Because he wouldn't have been talking about this for what feels like forever. Now that aaron rodgers was going to go on a scorched earth tour motivated at least in part by what he perceived all of us perceived to be the packers preparing to move on from him. So how do you see it. And where do you think it goes. Yeah we were all kind of arms. Because they didn't get him any help and we all many of us thought based on their stats from last year that they were gonna regress. They are back where they were last year when a thirteen and three record back in this game in aaron rodgers playing much better than he even played last season so yes. I think that we're probably making a lot out of a little bit with this beautiful mystery thing but i do think it's interesting that he's going to be looking across the field at tom brady. Who was a guy who we thought would never leave the team that he was on the difference in that situation. Was tom brady. Felt like they weren't helping them out. It felt like he was there alone if he didn't have a chance to win. It's hard to see. Aaron rodgers obviously cares about his legacy. It's hard to see him moving on or them moving on from him as long as everybody in. This situation is producing and getting back to championship level games which they are right now and i suspect they will be for years to come because it doesn't like his game is gonna fall off anytime soon. So maybe jordan loves to be the one who's talking about how his future is a beautiful. Mr because i don't think there's anything about aaron rodgers. He keeps playing like this. That's very lewis. Now you're the person in charge. How are you dealing with that like you. You've got an asset there in jordan. Love that you used a first round pick on we all understand how these contracts work decisions you have to make about the future. How reviewing it right now i. I'm taking a big in the adam. Schefter approach and i'm just going i. There's nothing to do. There's just nothing to do jordan. Hey get comfortable get comfortable. Make sure your hat fits real good. You know makes up. Your pads are good. Makes you comfortable shoes. Because you're going to be spending a lot of time. Walking down to the sideline you know making sure you stretch out your knees and stuff like that as you're getting tight and all that from watching there play because i tell you this this guy from the time. We talked to him when we did the monday night. Game early. In the season against the falcons and we talked him in those production calls. This guy is in a zone right now. He's a very deep thinker very analytical thinker a very philosophical thinker someone who really analyzes the big picture as well as the little picture and he went back to the drawing board man this off season and he got down. He got down to work with the floor. About how do. I take my game to the next level in your offense. Teach me something. I don't know so. I can go to another level. He's he's on a on a score score earth tour whatever you wanna call it and the reasons why he laid the foundation for the last off season and i just don't see that changing he is in a zone man he's in zone. So jordan love. Just get comfy. The old man sketchers. Whatever it is that you wear your back and your knees you be standing a lot a lot of head shefty lewis you just flip the whole segment around so the segments should've actually been jordan. Loves future is fair. yeah it's probably not as interesting to most people as it is. And i will say of the fbi. Wear the scorned lover. I keep an eye on this thing. I'm telling you right now. it's not this week. Obviously please stop. You're gonna make adam quick. Don't make him quit again. This company cannot say after greenie is greenie. Don't get your hopes up. It's going to be a new segment on the show degrees. Don't get your hopes up close. Because i need you for this story to the chiefs quarterback patrick mahomes. That's where all eyes are right now practicing in a limited capacity yesterday taking another step to possibly clearing concussion protocol in time to play in the championship game sunday against the bills. Here is andy reid on what he saw. Look he's just He's in protocol so there. There's only certain things in can and limited basis but today is a little bit limited practice so he in this show right into what he can do but he took all the snaps and feels good. I mean we just gonna follow. This protocol is close. we possibly can clearly. This is the most important thing is we lead into this weekend. Adam schefter how should we interpret what. We're seeing so far coming out of kansas city. Well here's the thing green. He's going through the five stages of concussion protocol. He's through at least stage three right now in the chiefs believe and hopeful and optimistic that he will get through stages four and five and be ready to play look. Everybody would be surprised. If patrick mahomes were not playing in the afc championship game still has to get through. The protocols still is not there right now but if and when he does get through as a rule believes he will. I think the question becomes on sunday. Not what are the effects of the last week but his foot injury that he suffered last week because he was hobbling around during that game will he be limited in any type away with the ford injury. He suffered against the brown. I think that probably is as much a factor for sunday's conference championship game as any other ailments. Patrick mahomes is now dealing with how. How would you describe the level of concern. You're you're gauging coming out of kansas city about that the foot. I think that they're aware of it. They are conscious of it. I don't think that they think it's going to prevent him from playing. But you know it's hard to say. I don't think it's a complete non factor. Let me just say that. So we'll keep a close eye on it. Maybe we could describe this as if you're rooting against them. This weekend. shefty says don't get your hopes up. We'll take a short break much more to do basketball next kyri k. d. and the beard on the floor together last night for the first time and we have identified already a glaring flaw gear. What that is plus. The browns offense took off once odell ended. Is that a coincidence. And if not what do we do next up on. Espn do own or rent your home. Sure you do. And i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com. Today that's geico dot com. We are back on. Get up and the game of the night. Last night was a double overtime thriller with the nets and the cavaliers and kyrie irving back after missing seven games. And of course he want to ring in cleveland once upon a time nets trailed much of the night but then six minutes left. They're coming back. That's james harden. He finished with a twenty one point. Triple double their back in under three to go down by five not anymore. Kevin durant weaving. Yes he finished with thirty eight. It's a one possession game just over a minute. Let joe harris down by two no good but kyri is there for the put back. We're tied at one thirteen and we go to overtime. I possession of the ot four brooklyn kyw re off the screen. He scored thirty seven in forty eight minutes in his return. Hundred minute left in the. Ot cleveland down three. But larry nance. Junior is clutch tied at one twenty next brooklyn possession. Pardon driving kicking jeff. Green is up and good nets. A three point lead five seconds to go brooklyn up by three colin sexton three to one ali times. It knocks it in with one point. Six remaining to go to a second overtime. But i kevin durant had this chance to win it at the buzzer in the first. Ot wouldn't get. It played fifty minutes last night second. Ot belong to the cabs little over two minutes to go cleveland. Five sexton guests finished with a game high forty two points and the cavaliers in double overtime win it by a dozen kyri. Let's talk you know. We'll have good night's we'll have great nice but it's galvanizes group together and how we sacrifice and compromise for the greater good greg glimpse You know sort of the game very very good The entire game. We just gotta find a way to stops when we need to. I felt perfect. Felt like lawn together. This joining together is gonna be fine. Tough i start especially up and down game for us but like i like a fascinating night. And here's the big fella always fascinating with kendrick perkins big perk so much to pack. What's your number one takeaway from last night. The number one takeaways grainy. Look i know i was talking about. Who's going to be the bad man who was going to beat a robin. Who was be right. Cowdery came back. And say i'm bad. Man he almost thirty sites last night. He is not sacrifice in no part of his game. I'll festively and we witness there last night and let's go build problem greedy. All these guys are going to have to sacrifice game offensively. Because we don't have don't have that in mind doing that no time soon. I'll tell you that much well. So he took twenty-eight shots last night. Kevin durant took twenty-five and james harden took fourteen again in a game that went to double overtime. Watch the right formula. If we're all going to be sitting here paying attention to how many shots they each take on a given night. What is the right formula. And your opinion for them to be at their best. Well if you look at all the big three's that will form and has two sis- each one of those guys sacrifice. I strongly believe look. They got tim points out of the last night. You have a guy that joe hairs that you pay seventy two million dollars to. Because he's able to shoot the lights out. They're going to need. Joe harrison the playoffs and right now the way that the nets playing ball is just the three main team on offense. They got spread. The will they gotta give these guys confidence. If i'm steve nash. I gotta go into this locker room in address. The word sacrifice. I got an address. That grainy and look i will play career as a six man. Roll type deal. Not saying i wouldn't start him. But i will bring him in with their second unit and just let him rock out because he has no plans on. Pass the ball so you have to let him do what he do. When when katie. James harden is not on the floor. You make an interesting point and the game was played. It took fifty eight minutes on the floor last night and the nets ten points off their bench. Cleveland got forty four off of their bench. So that's the difference and then the other side of this. Cleveland comes into the game a big fellow with the worst offense in the nba and they gave up the nets gave up one hundred and forty seven points to them. How much of a concern is defense for. This group is very concerning right now. The brooklyn nets couldn't go senior citizens at recess right now and that's the problem in the nursing home and because look when you look at what they're doing right now. They gave a fifty position to the cavs. All from the field fifty percent from three. That's not gonna cut and look. I have major concerns. When they traded jared allen say manigault really miss him and they all last night steve nast had to move kevin durant so the five workout so with that being said they haven't so much to one adil go out and get some players because the trade jordan is not the same joined. That we saw with the clippers. And steve nash and his coaches staff are going to have to reconstruct and do something different scheme wise. Because they're dropped coverage. I center is just not going to get it. I'll say this if what they need is an enforcer and maybe we have the answer once again all week long. We have been enjoying posted on his instagram of his son when he was seven. He's now nine. Just i guess for lack of a better word dominating in a new basketball that is big perk son and we we have enjoyed watching this And enjoyed your pride in it. Does he take a look at that. Walk at we did not get shefty. Lewis's thoughts on this earlier this morning a scouting report here. We could be looking at sending and my my man has got some size now perk. He's nine years old now. he's nine nine years old. Yeah i got. I've got a nine year old boy. He's going to be ten at the end of this month. Who play some ball to and he. He went up against the guy who looked like that and his last championship last year. I hope he's out here in the living room watching the game watching this right now if he's not in school upstairs in the bedroom. Because i'm gonna ask you won't be like would you have done with cam. Because he goes like a beast. I said i said bring him in here right now so we can watch this. I don't know if he's watching this. But i'd be i'd need to light a fire under this may be the perfect video for chef. Megan perfect strut go. And he's got that swagger going. He's already taller and bigger than me. Very big per coaching gonna love it. Thank you big perk for sharing your family with us. We have enjoyed it and it's fun good for you and it's wonderful to see all right. We'll take a break coming up. The browns made significant strides this season without a dell in the fold. So what does that mean for the future. We're talking about take a look at this. Some of the action yesterday from fight island this is. I could feel in on knocking out. Venecia's down goes shefty. Your thoughts my thoughts on that. You ever been hit like. I couldn't do that there. Be you ever hit anyone like that. No never hit anybody and and thankfully. I don't think i've been hit like that. I remember maybe. I was knocked out. We are members of the never hit anybody and never been hit club and let's keep it that way as we continue. Tom brady has accumulated more accolades than many. Nfl franchises. the numbers are going to blow your mind. Don't miss a minute show on. Espn plus stephen as world. We'll have exclusive. Use the icon conor mcgregor before his main event this weekend and acting and comedic superstar. Chris rock that stephen as world exclusively on. Espn plus get up. And let's talk about the cleveland browns. What a sensational season for them but so much of it came without odell beckham junior. Who tore his acl against the bengals in week. Seven missed the rest of the year quarterback baker mayfield would step it up after that throwing eleven touchdowns in just one pick and his final six games. As cleveland made the playoffs for the first time since two thousand and two they won a playoff game then they of course ran into the defending champions this past week losing to the chiefs in a game. That saw chad. Hannie take over for the injured. Patrick mahomes and of course dell was watching any posted this on instagram he posted. It was a bitter-sweet season. Being on the outside looking in. All i wanted was to be in it with the team. I had to put my pride aside and just watch it unfold. I'm proud and inspired by this squads growth an effort this year and it should be pointed out he has made an extraordinary effort to say and do all of the right things and so shefty. I think it is a reasonable question as we look forward to ask you what the future looks like. and as as you see it for odell in cleveland. Well i think he makes that team more dangerous if and when he comes back in the future and i think that's the team would like to do now. We'll see how the off season plays out. There are always so many things that happened in an off season. And we're looking for answers but q magin. How much more dynamic his team might have been on offense at ad odell beckham as a weapon out there. It did not it made its living. It's run game offensive. Line with jarvis landry making some big place now the salary cap is gonna go down here and the interesting puerto be do. They need dole to restructure. How do they handle that again. These are questions for the off. Season that we're looking for answers on january twentieth before the organization has had substantial conversations about it right now but to me he would make the offense that much more dangerous. Okay and so look that makes sense dominika. You look at an offense. They're good you had a really good player. They should get better. Is it as simple as that because sometimes in life we know it isn't. It appears that they got better when they subtracted him. I'm not one who believes that. You get better by getting rid of good players. But i can imagine in that front office and in that coach and room. They feel like they can not. They feel like they saw that. They can thrive without him so given his cap hit. I think is six a month a month receivers next year. That's going to be hard or a big campaign for player that you have figured out a way to succeed without him so they might be able to won't be very hard for them convince themselves that they can survive without a hotel beckham. Maybe they'd be better off with whatever players or draft picks. They could bring back from moving. Odell beckham i personally think he's still one of the best receivers in the game and they should figure out how to use them. But i wouldn't be surprised. They figured out how to move him. How good he is yeah. I think that's the way a lot of people are looking at it. Look how good. he is. Not in question but d- would there. Is you know this. There was some narrative that people will say the quarterback sort of came into his own and was able to be the leader of that team. A better when odell was no longer there. What do you think of that thought. I mean listen. We did see the maturity of baker mayfield all throughout the year. There's no question about their from his leadership to his play just to calm collectiveness that he showed are particularly down the stretch in the playoffs baker mayfield shows some absolute growth but listen. I agree with the agree with dominic an adult oda beckham. Julia brings a different element today. Office they don't have and yes they had wanted to one of the most dominant running rushing attacks in the league but the explosiveness on the outside with with a mega jarvis landry even more effective in some of the other parts. They have on on often. So i know you know the salary cap is going down but if they can figure out a way to make all these all these parts work together i think the cleveland browns a better off with it. Was this feeling though. D would and i. You sent a note about this last night that maybe there were. Baker felt pressure to force feed the football to odell. Do you think that after the successful season he had this year. That would continue to be a problem. No i don't. Because i just think that just a growth of baker mayfield his maturity and i do think you know when i came over. There was so much. Talk in you know. Sometimes you feel like you have to force feed a guy like odell beckham junior. Who's a on and national football league boy as we saw this year with baker mayfield his ability to distribute football and play com under intense pressure. Made him a made him a better quarterback this year so when odell beckham comes back and if you still on this on this team you know i think you'll be. I think the transition would be even better. Because i think the grow from the quarterback and so sheffield de. Let's finish it by going back to where you started it. Which is when did decisions like this. Get made whether we're talking about this. One or general ones like the free agency period starts in march teams. We talked about it earlier. Are going to be looking for receivers. You see what's the impact. He made the impact. The andrei hopkins made teams out. There will be looking for receivers. When do these decisions start getting made by organizations logan. Yeah i remember being at the combine last year and having somebody tell me there you need to watch the fundings get traded this year in the off season and minnesota denied that and said no. We're not looking to move on while it was quietly having conversations again. The brown season just ended on sunday at kansas city narrowly. So i'm sure they're doing some exit interviews going over some instructions for some off season plans. They'll give everybody some time off. It's been a long hard year on everybody. And i think at that point time once they reassemble in february. Be to sit down and go over the personnel. And where they wanna go in the off season. They'll have those conversations. I think the front office is thinking about the ways. It needs to get down under the salary. Cap the moves. It needs to make those conversations. I don't believe have occurred yet. Okay but i. I know that the place that we will get them. The monday they do is from adam schefter so we will keep a close eye on that. I've got stuff on tom. Brady coming up in this program that is gonna blow your mind that is on the way but do not forget. We have the monster fight. Saturday night this saturday. The return of the notorious conor mcgregor. Ufc two fifty-seven taking on dustin perea fight island in abu dhabi. Mcgregor spoke earlier this morning. Our time take a listen. I know a hell of a competitor. I notice questions here. He's heavy he's zupan. he's on a different way. he's experience. I feel i can do it however you know. There are question marks garden conditioning. And things like that. I know his team has been spouting about the condition and that i have put in a lot of work to get myself correctly to the one hundred fifty five pound frame. I got forty seconds inside the octagon and twenty twenty which caused major frustration. In my know it's not enough. I need more. he's back. Do not forget the draft kings the official daily fantasy sports partner of ufc. And this saturday new players can play free for one hundred thousand dollars in prizes when they make their first deposit. Download the draftkings app and sign up with the promo code. Octagon for your shot and all the active. The action will be coming your way again from fight island and abu dhabi concluding what is a huge week of ufc action three big events including the one that we had live yesterday morning and had culminates with the main event with conor mcgregor. This weekend and here they are arielle. Halawani and daniel cornea getting a set for all of this guys. Thank you for getting up with us. An oriole we'll start with you because you sat down with mcgregor last week as have throughout his career. How is he different now. Oh you know. I thought that i was going to talk to a very frustrated conor mcgregor included to that right. Twenty twenty was very frustrating for him. He was irritated to get back. He felt like he was being sidelined. Instead i got the same connor that we saw this morning at the press conference. Calm cool collected. Happy jovial. no trash talk no needling of his opponent portray. This isn't the mcgregor three four years ago. Who was putting on a show for everyone. He's just genuinely happy to be there content to resume his career and dare. I say just sort of appreciative of the moment. Which isn't something that we got out of him. Fascinating sort of insight into this global superstar. Daniel let me come to you because this fight is a rematch. Mcgregor knocked out for a in the food mound over six years ago. So what impact does that have on this fight. You know mentally. It's a challenge for guys to get over getting knocked out especially in the fashion that dustin poor you got knocked out in now green as i walked into the room to get on. Get up right now. I ran into conor mcgregor. He told me. Enjoy the show on saturday. And then as i was coming into the room dust emporia walks out. Dustin says he's ready to get his hand raise so now it seems as though you have to athletes very ready in primed to do something special. Dustin pedroia is not approach. Like a guy trying to get one back and conor mcgregor is promising to do even better than he did. Last time that guarantees absolute fireworks. The octagon door closes on saturday again. Mcgregor won this fight in the first round last time. So daniel give us something for the fans to be looking for in that first round on saturday from portray. What does he have to do early. That will tell you. He's got a chance to turn this around. Gained some respect from conor mcgregor because the last fight was so quick he never got a chance to show connor anything. That would make him pause. That would make him take a back step and also look for dustin pori to avoid the traps that conor mcgregor sets whenever he starts his fight. That's why you see the spinning hook. Kicks are back. Kicks trying to set a trap to make you circle into his power. The power being his ultimate weapon that straight left hand that has knocked out so many fighters cautious patient. dustin four. what you should expect early when the fight get started. Meanwhile arielle clearly mcgregor remains the biggest name in the sport so what is next for him after this weekend if he wins on saturday greenie he will fight for a belt. He will fight for the title. The big question is will the fight against w mogomedov. That's the biggest fight the ufc could put on. I think he could do. Three million pay per view buys and by the way. No fight other than hubby versus connor. One has ever done two million pay per view buys. So that's how big of a deal it would be. However i don't think it will be connor versus habib to if he wins on saturday. Why ramadan is coming up. Habib visit about muslim. It's coming up in april. He's not fighting between now and april and he's certainly not fighting during ramadan. He's not fighting right. After ramadan the earliest he potentially comes back. If in fact he does come back. It's in the fall. Connor wants to be active. He said in that clip. He was frustrated. He didn't fight more than once last year. so i suspect he'll fight someone else. Maybe april may june july latest. But it won't be habib. It will be though for title if he wins on saturday. I'll say this when you make predictions. I pay attention because you told me a year ago. The buffalo bills. We're gonna wind up a super bowl this year. And you were one game of all my goodness do to remind all do. Don't do it on sunday super bowl champs three weeks here. We go no one circles. The wagons greenie circle the wagons greedy as they've won. He's gotten more annoying and more arrogant. I'm telling you please has to stop. This is the kind of thing you can hear on dc and hawaii. Which is the podcast. That comes out every monday on youtube. And wherever you get your podcast guys. Thank you for getting up with us here. Enjoy the weekend and again mcgregor's return as part of a huge sports weekend for us. It starts tomorrow night on. Espn you got embiid. And the sixers hosting the celtics. Then saturday full day of college basketball including duke taken on louisville and again saturday night. Ufc two fifty seven mcgregor emporia on espn plus up next for us here. If you do not consider tom brady to be the goat a. I don't know what you're watching be. I have numbers that are going to boggle your mind their next on. Espn tonight college. Basketball rivalry night on espn beginning with gina. Warri m going for his eleven hundred career win at uconn taking tennessee at seven eastern and then on the men's side it's arizona and state nine eastern tonight on espn and the espn app. And that we welcome you back to our studios. Greenie here get up on. Espn with you from now for the next thirteen minutes commercial. Free until the top of the hour. And that is when i take will come your way and shaquille. O'neal will be a guest on the show joining stephen and max and molly to talk about the new look nets and so much more. It's shack next on. Take were commercial free until then okay. Tom brady starting his fourteenth conference championship game. This weekend is so extraordinary. That hembo and i decided the only way to explain. It is with the following list of the top. Ten things about tom brady. That are absolutely going to blow your mind. number ten. Only three franchises have played in more championship games than brady. And one of those is the patriots who went thirteen times with him and just twice in thirty one seasons without so they don't even count number nine when brady started his first conference championship game. The houston texans did not exist. He has since beaten them in the playoffs. Twice number eight in one season brady has already accounted for twenty five percent of all the playoff wins in tampa bay buccaneers history number. Seven brady is completed. Three hundred four passes in conference championship games. That is forty two more than joe. Montana and peyton manning who were second and third combined number. Six brady started his first conference championship game. January twenty seventh two thousand and two since that date. Ohio state has beaten his alma mater. Michigan sixteen times number five when brady started his first conference championship game. Hank aaron was still baseball's all time leader in home runs and number four. Dan marino was the nfl's all time leading. Passer marino has since been surpassed by drew brees peyton manning. Brett farve philip rivers and brady himself number three in his forties alone in this decade of his forties. Tom brady has won as many playoff games. As the bengals texans cardinals lions or jaguars in their franchise. history number. Two brady has made it this far in the playoffs. Seventy four percent of his seasons that means that every year it is more likely that he makes the conference championship than it is. Lebron james makes a free throw that any major league pitcher throws a strike or that any golfer on tour makes a putt longer than four feet and finally number one. As of this sunday. Tom brady will be the only quarterback ever to have started a conference championship four different. Us presidents bush over trump and now biden. Those are the numbers on tom. Brady let me go to the crew and see what we think. Dominique what is what is your reaction. It's incredible. I don't know how which one of those ten of those the most impressive but i was just reading about him. I forgot that he won the league. Mvp at the age of forty. What three years ago. The man is still outstanding. he's by far. The greatest are had the greatest career football player ever. But i don't think this they're going to win this weekend. We're not doing predictions right now. But i'm sorry to put a wet blanket on your on your brady love. Best but Aaron rodgers the batman. Stephen calls him is going to ruin the fun. I just gave you ten reasons. Why picking against. Tom brady feels like very very bad idea. D. would let me come to you because you played with brady at the very beginning of his career when he first sort of burst on the scene and one that very first super bowl. Did you have any inkling then what it was. We were going to see in him. These next twenty years green. I don't think anyone had a clue the type of career that tom brady. Headed up to. This point you're talking about a forty three year old quarterback forty three year old quarterback that just drew four thousand yards and forty touchdowns. That's just unreal. Okay i'm here sitting on my been sitting on my couch. A decade and. Tom brady is still going strong. Slinging the ball all over the place so listen. The work ethic was always there. You saw that from the beginning but there's not a person in the world that could have predicted that. Tom brady would have this type of career longevity that he's having obviously a forty-three putting up these type of numbers i meantime shefty let me come to. You is the only person in this conversation. Who was both caught a touchdown from him and intercept him both games but will of course everything going all the way back to when he was the quarterback of your alma mater michigan and people forget. Sometimes he wasn't a clear cut starter there for most of his career and then he was a sixth round. Pick the one hundred ninety nine players selected so no one then could have foreseen anything like this right not this no of course not i mean you're talking about a career that is legendary iconic status. And you could watch him back in michigan and see that he had the chance to be a really good quarterback. But we're talking about something now. That is so far. Beyond that and really. I think transcends almost any sport how many athletes go into their forties performing at the hall of fame level. All-time time great level. That tom brady still does. I go back to a comment in a conversation. We were once having talking about playing football and playing quarterback and said to me at one point. I dream of throwing the football now. I have a lot of dreams. I drink lots of different things. I don't really throwing the football breeding. Does and that's why. Tom brady as tom brady. And why he's in the position. He's in he dreams of throwing the football in his own words and so that's a perfect place to sort of leave. This here d- would again. Is this coming to an end. Like there isn't any obvious reason to think that he's particularly the aside from his age. Which makes this already impossible. What he's doing is there any reason to think he doesn't have multiple seasons left in him. Really he's not falling off. I mean i mean he probably had. Maybe the second best season at the quarterback position is year Like what he's doing for three is remarkable and he has a cast around him down in tampa warm weather living in living in florida. Now why would you wanna give that up right now. Like i said go ahead and play as many years as you want. If he dreams of throwing the football he may be able to live out that dream for several more seasons. All right let me get to some other news here shefty. Let's run the hurry up. We got a bunch of different news and notes and it starts with the coaching. Search is still out there. What's the latest in philadelphia. We'll their search got off to a late. Start with the firing. Doug peterson last week. But it certainly seems like right now. Josh mcdaniels nick. Some of the more recent candidates. They've interviewed the patriots. Defensive coordinator the colts offense quitter. They seem to be square in the mix for the eagles a coaching job. We'll see if it when the eagles can get this wrapped up before the weakest through or whether they decide they want to interview some of the candidates in this weekend's conference championship games. The other team with an open right. Now is the houston texans and again. It looks like eric. Leslie frazier both involved in this weekend's conference championship games have a real chance again if they were moving floor with one of the other men like mattie reflection david coli. Why haven't they made that decision. Maybe they will again but it seems like even refuse it. Seems like frazier m enemy. Right in the mix for the texans head. Coaching job and speaking of the colts. Obviously they lose. Philip rivers so now the question becomes what the indianapolis colts due at. The quarterback position remember greenie. Bread is also a free agent. So philip rivers is in retirement. Jacoby percents in free agency. The colts don't have a starting quarterback and they do have a roster. That's built a wayne anc compete. And it'll be up to the general manager. Chris ballard to find a quarterback to lead that very strong team forward on. I think he's going to have an easy time finding if you're a quarterback that's an extremely attractive opportunity with a coach all the quarterbacks love and you play your games in a dome and you have a really good offensive line. That is a place that the quarterbacks are going to want to get to. Okay max. it's time for the chronicles of riddick. Who's going to give him a pass because he don't even know how dumb that was. The number one overall pick in madrid wealthed. Somebody has to go. It's going to be you know. Let me fit with. That comes the expectation that you're gonna have a qbr better than five that hold on. I'm getting we've come to realize there is nothing in the world. Better than an animated louis riddick and so we present to you every week. Chronicles of riddick with just a few. That lewis has. Let's talk philip rivers. Shefty was just talking about him. Any doubt in your mind that he is a hall of fame now actively and i've thought about this a lot i don't i don't think you really can keep him out. Look he's fifth all time in career passing yards he's fifth all-time in career touchdowns thrown he's twelve in all time passer rating guess who slots in above in all those categories My guy dan marino. Dan marino one super bowl didn't win that either and i knew people will say well philip sort of made it a least a super bowl of one considering the fact that how strong his teams were. I don't think you can keep him out. He's been one of the best of all time. I totally agree. I'm going to do list on the radio. Show today of the greatest quarterbacks not to win one. Meanwhile who is the most important non quarterback playing this weekend the guy on the screen right there in the seaport tyron matthew y because he is a guy who was a jack of all trades and probably a master of all of them as well and they're going to need him to be going up against this very multiple buffalo passing attack. He made me to cover tight ends. He may need to cover slot receivers. He means to go out and they need to go out and cover guys on the outside. He's gonna have to be a factor in the run game as far as shadowing josh allen. He's gonna need to do a lot of different things. He's one of the best players in the nfl and they're going to need him to be at their best that they want to get back to tampa was all over the field last weekend against cleveland. All right next. What is the best fit in your mind for shawn watson. It's so funny that we were just talking about. Philip rivers in the indianapolis colts ha. They need a quarterback. They need a quarterback bed. They have plenty of cap space. They're a team that's built a win. They have a tremendous offensive line. There run centric attack. They have michael pittman junior wide receiver. They have a shutdown type of defense and they have a very quarterback friendly head coach. Who was one of the great backups. The ball time and frank reich looking at this right now. you're going. forget the jets. Go to andy. Give me did him. The indy and guarantee they'll be right there with the kennedy teaches forest favorites to go to the super bowl. Afc i'm completely with you on that. The good news for me is that richard sherman doesn't see it that way. Richard sherman who played sala on the defense in san francisco said on the chris collins worth podcast. If i was sean get out of there as quickly as possible. I would head to new york community. Go play for the jets earlier today. Adam schefter gave us what i think is going to be a new segment on our show going forward which is going to be called greedy. Don't get your hopes up. You said don't get your hopes. The other thing that i would say about louis to your point. I completely agree. Indianapolis is an incredibly attractive place but shefty the idea that that under any circumstances the texans would let to. Sean stay in the division. Seems basically impossible right. No i think the sean is gonna have a big say in where he goes. But i think if the houston texans it would be awfully hard to sign off on trading him away not only trading away trading to a division rival that that to me i made. I don't see how that happens again. Tell me are you. are you telling me. Don't get my hopes up. I don't know how much folks you have about. The sean going to indianapolis hopes or way up on going to york. So don't get your hopes up and lewis. I don't think you have. I think you look at this in a realistic situation. We both can agree. That indianapolis would be a great fit. But it's not practical and not realistic in my mind. I got another one and we talked today. Indianapolis about matthew stafford if stafford if detroit's looking to make a fresh start all over again stafford's only thirty two years old. I think people perceive him to be a lot older than he is. Give them a chance to go and win. That feels like an interesting possibility. Neak matt stafford. Is the guy that if i'm any team who needs a who's a quarterback away every team should be looking at matt stafford. From even in new england i think is another situation so until matt stafford until whoever takes over at the lions decides what they're gonna do with matt stafford all these teams should be looking at him as a possible guy. That's good dropping could immediately take your team otherwise strong roster onto the super bowl shefty. Should we get our hopes up. Matthew stafford going to the colts. Is that what you're asking me. Why i think that general practical and then shawn watson going to the coke. We've got to run guys. 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"Right wives. Whoever you are wherever you are. And whenever it is. You're catching some brainwaves come into you from the big of the ardent and thirsty Saint green river in almost always sunny Longmont, Colorado. I'm Becky Peter's across the table is the only co host who doesn't need to wear a blindfold and mastering bird Bax. It's been kelp. Ben. What's good? It is all good. Becky, I think technically not wearing a mask in bird box would make me a psychopath. But I'm gonna take it as a compliment because really nothing can get me down because I'm so excited about this episode. Totally unique episode. We've never done anything like this. If you haven't really listened to rain in the past typically, we go out there and find famous authors speakers education consultants and bring them in and bring their advice to the ear buds of busy teachers. But for this episode. We went to the true giants and education that is our loyal listeners. And this episode is one hundred. Percent. Their feedback there packs, they're at vice to you. So we hope you enjoy. I hope you have a pen 'cause you're gonna need it. Because this one is so loaded with amazing tips. This is personally one of my favorite because I I think some of the things that people have mentioned in these clips that you're about to hear things that we've been talking about sometimes in our heads. And now they're really putting them in two specific examples in the classroom. It's been amazing. So we reached out to some folks ideas for this episode but going forward, but I would love it. If when you try something cool in the classroom or stumble across a hacker an awesome project, we'd love for you to call it into our brain waves tip line. And we'll play it in an upcoming episode replanning to include these more and more. So call us anytime and leave us feedback about the show or drop your tangible tip at seven two zero nine zero zero one seven four one I really wish that spelled out something cool, but it doesn't it's just seventy zero nine zero zero one seven four one. All right. Without further ado, hey Siri with. Time is it. It's time to get out of our heads and into the classroom. I mean, simply please help be. Disney stuff AIT you count it. Hi, I'm Megan Soderlund. I teach high school social studies and Noblesville Indiana. One of the hosts of this podcast. Ben called was actually my AP government teacher in high school. So I have him to thank for a lot of teaching inspiration. My tip can be both a time saver and away to develop projects, and it's due in large part to my awesome colleagues. RPO see the way we structure each unit of study saves time, but allows us to bring a lot of creativity into the classroom when planning a unit the first few days are always learning a lot of content and scaffolding knowledge from previous topics the last day of each major topic cover we formulated creative essential question for students to explore and have more interactive activities with for example, when teaching about Neil that they revolution. The last day we explored the question was farming mistake allowing students to think deeply about the consequences of some basic actions like farming the made such an impact on society. We do something similar when talking about Alexander the great we teach about Alexander's battles and expansion. And then we present the question was Alexander. The great really great. Or was he overrated using a resume format? This is something that I find tends to make the content more personal and allows students to have an opinion we still provide essential questions as part of what we teach daily, but letting students explore the topics on a deeper level at the end of the unit is often a fun way to solidify their knowledge, this all proves to be a big time saver because while planning you have a guiding question that can lead to an awesome lesson. Our project suits also tend to learn the way each unit is organized and come into class with an awareness and readiness to learn. Awesome. Hiring waves Katrina Estrada here just sharing a few tips and tricks that I like to use one is I cannot stand when I have the red notification bubbles on my phone, and it also makes me really scratchy when I see someone else has a thousand on opened emails on their little red notifications. So a solution that I have for that as I've created a total separate Email account that I use for all promotions. Anything I might get junk mail for things that just I wouldn't need to read through on a daily basis and use that Email account. I don't link it to my phone. So it doesn't even come up, and then I can go in and sign on when I need it and search for something as needed, and I don't have to use. All that extra time going through and sorting through. What is junk in what I might need or what I might not need. Hey, I'm an Wellington front of the pod. I teach students AP US history and government at Frederick high school in Frederick, Colorado. You can find me on Twitter. My handle is at a Wellington eighty three my into the classroom. Tip comes direct from my AP US history. Class a class that is heavily dependent on my students. They Nabl retain in retrieve vast US history content knowledge in order to make broader historical argument about once or twice a unit. We have what I call make a meme openers as a way for students to show their understanding of a particular event concept or person in our recent a push studies for those unfamiliar with me GMs. They are images found on the internet. The had some text on it to make a humorous statement on some part of our broader culture these images are very interchangeable. So they can be used for variety of purposes, and you can make a Mimi out of just any Emmett when the class begins I display, the topic and my exam. Oh mean via the projector, and then I give students ten minutes to create as many memes as they can about are given top we as a website called. I am g flip that stores. Blank. Images of all the popular internet means. There are a lot and allows you to create your own versions of them by simply typing in the text. Once it has created students are able to save their image to their ipads Kamrul. And then they uploaded into a media gallery in our school. Of course, we then spend a few minutes going through the creations together. There's a lot of laughter because we love nerd humor in this class. But a lot of great conversations and debates about the historical validity of each me as well students love it because it is in a medium that they understand very well and inject some humor in the proceedings brain, science wise at forces than the do some retrieval of those facts and concepts that they've been reading about on their own alternately this class opener is forcing students to say something about the dent set of content helping them the further build their historical thinking skills, if you're looking for a quick opener or. Closer to a class somewhat to see what students are retaining a really fun way to says they're thinking as well. So enjoy conceive. Hello rain waves. What's up? This is an Feldman coming to you from Bellevue Nebraska in the heartland of America. You can follow me on Twitter at an Feldman one and my into the classroom tip is to leverage class kick and use the audio feature to provide your students descriptive feedback while they're in the writing process. Let's look at an example from a science teacher, the teachers assigning a five paragraph essay over volcanoes. And now instead of writing it out on pencil and paper setting up the slides and class kick. So that each slide is one paragraph teacher even provided a word Bank at the top of each of the slides so students needed to incorporate specific vocabulary words tied to this paragraph then as students are typing their paragraph the teacher can pop onto any slide while the stewed. Are working and watch them while they're writing and provide them feedback. Now, the powerful piece is as the students finish their writing. They can raise their electric hand in class. Kick to say, please check my work at that point the teacher pops onto the slide and uses the recording feature to record feedback for the student on their paragraph when the teachers done recording the feedback the feedback instantly appears on the slide and as a veiled for the student to listen to on demand anytime anywhere this student, then pops on their ear buds and listens to the teacher feedback and makes their revisions as they listen to the feedback students use the pause rewind play again cycle. So that they continue to listen to that feedback process. The feedback use that feedback to improve their writing each day the students wrote just one paragraph. And every day that teacher provided descriptive feedback to every single student. Not only did they receive that feedback in a timely manner. But the feedback was also personal private and targeted to their specific writing in their writing styles. The end result was is each day the students wrote a paragraph and by Friday of that week. They had a wonderful essay written, and the entire thing was already, revised and graded. The teacher said that that saved him hours of work, and the student said that this writing piece was one of the best pieces they had written because of the feedback that not only they received, but that they were able to use to revise their work. Leveraging the audio feature in class kick to provide students descriptive feedback on their writing is a win for everyone. I encourage you to give it a try. Ways. I'm Tom Gibson from Austin, Texas. I may middle school math, robotics and YouTube video production teacher as well as the creator and host of the Tom Gibson podcast, which are these NPR styles stories from the classroom might tangible tip for your listeners in the new year is for them to consider beginning a classroom economy. A classroom economy starts with students having classroom jobs, which is pretty standard particularly in elementary classrooms. But takes it a step further, and that they get paid in pretend money so that they can pay rent on their desk as well as us money to buy items in a monthly auction different jobs have different salaries, depending on how much work the job entails. Students can also earn bonus money outside of their salary as well as half to pay fines for any classroom, and fractions, you can set it up so students can eventually by their desks. So that way they don't have to pay rent anymore, and they can become little landlords and give students opera -tunities to create their own. Businesses where they sell some kind of service or product to their classmates. I've got a series of videos and documents on how you can actually get this up and running in your classroom. Whether you teach elementary middle school or high school, and you can find those resources at Tom Gibson dot com. H M S O N dot com slash classroom economy. And if you have any questions feel free to reach out to me on Twitter at Gipson EDU. I'm not even mad amazing. Hi, I'm Casey looker. I'm the learning technology coach for skyline high school, Timberline PK eight and trail ridge middle school, something that I've done recently like right before Parikh that really has gotten me pumped and excited around the use of the breakout EDU boxes, I feel like on the surface level. They just appear to be this really fun engaging way to get participants into content or into a team. But I feel like the potential goes so much more beyond that for anyone that has never used the boxes. They simulate the type of puzzles and teamwork collaboration that need to happen in order to kind of scape room in an escape room. And you have to work together to solve those. Puzzles and break out of the room, and you have a certain amount of time. But with the boxes it's just a box because we clearly can't lock kids into a room that would probably be very frowned upon. So the reason that I love the boxes so much though, really comes afterwards in the reflection because a lot happens as groups have to puzzle through the game. They're facing challenges as a team or individually and having participants reflect on all of that afterwards is where the real power comes in a lot of times, I'll have students reflect on assumptions that they had prior to the game either about people in their group or about themselves, and it really gives the whole group a chance to talk about group, dynamics and the productive struggle and how powerful that is. I've also gotten to facilitate groups of teachers in professional development, and it's cool to have teachers reflect on how they saw themselves reacting in similar ways to their students those same behaviors that drives them crazy in the classroom are the ones that they sell themselves doing, and I think that's so great because it gave them an opportunity to have. Gained more empathy for why students maybe wrecking the way that they were because whatever it is that they were doing was a struggle. The other final layer reflection, though comes in with the teachers that I get to co facilitate the break-up oxes with because we get to talk during the facilitation about what we're noticing about the group's. How groups are working how they're not working and then afterwards reflecting on how we facilitated because I'll tell you the first time that I filibustered I saw so clearly one of my fatal flaws as a teacher in that's trying to help too much the second. I would see kids struggle. I would want to scoop in and try to give them more support. And a lot of times that takes away that productive struggle in the power of overcoming challenge. And so it was just very clearly, and I'm still working on this because even with the sixth graders. I was with right before break a couple of them commented that they could tell there on the right track or the wrong track. Even if I was smiling like a full or if I was giving them this furrowed brow. So yes, something that I'm. Really excited about is the opportunities and the potential for deep reflection that come from the EU experience. Thank you top that reading brainiacs. Keith kennison a middle school math and science teacher from Loveland, Colorado. My into the classroom idea slash dream derives from a hope I have a hope for everybody in my classroom to look forward to find joy in exploring exploring investigating challenging problems. And ideas takes a lot of effort where do I start? How do I start? How do I even know if my plan or ideas are on target? What if I mess up students who just a few years earlier eagerly asked why why chomping at the bit ready to jump in and get messy and search for answers. Now, sit slow to start afraid of making mistakes more content with being spoon fed the house than discovering the wise. So here's my into the classroom idea when we come across the great problem where I did a test out or explore I joined the kids in this endeavor. I announce that I'm off limits for. Ten minutes and take a seat alongside other learners and dive in hopefully, I'm model. What it looks like to love a challenge. I remind kids of the joy in y. And boy do the kids watch me. This isn't typical behavior for teacher. They see me scratch. My head scribble flip the paper to start a new realize the mistakes and roadblocks are natural necessary components of learning when we reconvene I have to remind the kids that I do care about them. And because I care about them. I'm not ready to see their work yet when I'm still working on it. Please don't come to me when I'm working and asked me to help you get unstuck. I'm not unstuck yet. And if you think it's an emergency, just go. We'll talk about it later, please. Let me explore. I won't interrupt. You. You don't interrupt me? And when it comes time to share, I often don't share my work. Don't look to me for the answers. There's a lot of brain power in this room. And we all explored the same problem the same amount of time. Let's all pitch in. This idea may seem simple, but it's been. Powerful in defining learner roles, and creating more joy, well, at least for me and hopefully for most of my students. Hey, there rain waves listeners. My name is Shelly Stevens. I'm the instructor of the teacher prep program at Tri county tech in Oklahoma. You can find me on Twitter as Shelley Boyd Stevens. Or with the handle at SMB pinky wanted to take a minute to share with you and idea that implemented for the first time this school year in it has been such an awesome addition to my classroom and a big benefit to my students for me. It's really saved me time and helped me feel organized. Happy idea is to create interactive daily agendas using Google slides. I was initially inspired to use Google slides to create and keep daily agendas by one of my colleagues, and it made a lot of sense for me to start loading those agendas with links, I think that miss Catlin Tucker, the wonderful, miss Tucker. Also has some information examples of interactive daily Genda so check that out. So you can set up your interactive daily agendas. However, you would like but mine look like this. This. I made a Google slide show that I called daily agendas and for each day. I add new slide. I created a template with four quadrants on the top left. I put in a medium or a quote that relates to the topic of our work for that day, or sometimes it's just something to make the students laugh or to feel inspired. And these little memes are quotes have become a really fun part of our classroom culture on the top. Right. I have a list of materials and supplies that students will need for the day. And they've learned the procedure that as soon as they walk into the room. They just gather all the necessary materials they'll need for that day put about their workspace on the bottom right have upcoming dates to know where I list out important events or dates coming up in the next month. So here I my announce a field trip or someone's birthday an assembly test date or even the end of term on the bottom left. I have the day's agenda here. I list out what will be happening in class that day then across the bottom of the slide under the four quadrants. I have that day's learning objectives. And I like to write minus questions. Here's where the fun comes in anything on that slide can be hyperlinked to something. So if an event in the upcoming dates has a flyer or a website, I can link it, I can add links throughout the agenda items to say video or a website or even Google document. A couple of tech tips that I picked up previously have really helped me with this. You might already know these just in case. So the first tech tip is that if you highlight anything even a picture and then go to insert on the menu bar, you can choose link and paste in a URL making that click -able hyperlink, the second tech tip is something I learned only a few years ago, and it rocked my world. So let's say that you make a note catcher or a graphic organizer or test in Google docs, that you wanna share with the students, but you want them to have their own copy rather than editing your original if you go to the blue share button and copy the. Ink on your document. The word edit will be somewhere in that long. URL? Take out the word edit and just add the word copy in its place. Now when you share that link students will be prompted to make a copy, then whatever you shared with them will become their own edible copy. I use school Aji as my learning management system. And I share the link to my daily agenda slide show just front and center on my school, g course, page daily interactive agendas. Take a few minutes to create but they have replaced so many other things that I used to have to do absent students are parents now know exactly how to find out what's happening in class, and they have ready access to all the documents in resources. I no longer have to keep a detailed classroom calendar. And I don't have to keep a crate full of extra handouts. I no longer take the time to write daily learning objectives on the board. And I no longer have to fumble around opening files to project. Act on the screen or keeping tabs open on my computer. I just simply project my gender and my lesson and transitions flow, really smoothly. Because everything I need is right in one place. Finally have a really nice day by day reference in easy to find resources to use when I'm planning next year. Interactive daily agendas on Google slide show really are a time saver and a great resource for students parents and for the teacher. Hi, I'm Heather brubaker. I present students with art challenges at blue mountain element. Trie a recent challenge involved a collaborative for taken by science teacher, Terry Pollick. PT PJ Jason and myself. We wanted to create a challenge that would help students gain better understanding for each other while increasing their skill base in each of our content areas, we started this challenge by creating unlikely pairs of students in each class school wide. The pairs of students were given challenges into complete together in p science and art in each of. Area they gained content knowledge along with a better understanding of their unlikely partner in art the students were faced with the challenge of creating visual representation of their partner in the medium of their choice. The students resemble demonstrated a great amount of empathy for their partners in each content area during this challenge we've into the challenge. One step further with a grant from arts. Longmont curator Marian Laurenz taught this students how to curate art show armed with their new knowledge of art, curing and portrait's the fifth grade students will now curate this spring same brain valley school district art show, presented by blue mountain. They will select the works from the portrait's done by the unluckily partners in the school, wide empathy challenge, the fifth graders have titled the show understanding is an art. We would love for you to check out the show in the spring at the Boulder County fairgrounds, while the the show understand that it was made possible because an unlikely team of teachers. AP teacher assigns teacher and an art teacher took a risk. And then we invited unlikely pairs of students to take a risk from this risk. We all gained content knowledge and the knowledge that understanding is truly an art form. And that we all capable of being artists, of empathy. Hello, my name is Diane lower. And I'm this isn't superintendent of party programs and academic support in the St. rain valley schools, one of my responsibilities is professional development and for the last four years, I've been working with my colleagues delving into the research and application of using video coaching to enhance our teacher practice folks might be surprised that there's a huge research base around using video to promote self growth. Not only in teaching but in a myriad of other fields like law medicine sales, sports, even the military. In fact, video coaching has. Been around for twenty to forty years, and it's really not something new, but what's new is the technology, and how easy video capture is because of smartphones and tablet device. It's easy to snap a video. Now, you don't have to lug around a giant video camera and download it and burn it onto something, you know, you can just post video right from your own smartphone and share it in the cloud and a number of different ways. And so it's it's really exciting to to see the explosion of video that's happening in our school district because we really believe that video has the potential to accelerate our capacity and our growth, and when you think about how fast everything is changing around us, all the new strategies and tips and applications, we Mead. Tool so that we can accelerate our growth, and and keep up with that rate of change one of the really cool things that's happening in Saint rain right now is a partnership we have with the Harvard University's m q I project and m q is stands for mathematical quality of instruction several years ago. Harvard professors to a math specific rubric that provides teachers with a framework for analyzing math instruction. And so our teachers get together in small groups take turns facilitating virtual coaching site goals with each other to help them reflect on their own practice and look closely at their students work and their students mathematical reasoning. So our teachers are learning three step process that anyone can employ when using video to enhance their practice. I video teachers. Watch a video clip and describe without judgment. What happens in the clip focusing on one or two focus areas, then they identify one instructional aspect that. They can elevate in their instruction. And then finally each teacher identifies next steps that might lead to such elevated instruction. It's a really simple process. But when worked on clearly amazing things happen, and you know, teachers can work together and just continue with that next coaching cycle. And it's really exciting. So we tell folks that, you know, the best place to get resources is through the Harvard center for education policy, research, visibly better website, and you can go through their resources. There's a ton of on how to get started using video to enhance your practice in any content or. Or grade level. All you have to do is go to visibly better dot C. P R dot Harvard dot EDU or you can also follow their Twitter, hashtag, hashtag visibly better. There's tons of great people engaging in that content in the Twitter verse so think so much. Hi, this is Matt Hawkins from Richland Michigan right close to Kalamazoo. I teach design innovation classes in the steam lab at golick middle school. You can connect with me on Twitter at Mr. Hawkins G L. I love recommending brainwaves to others not only because of the Stella guests, but also because of the fantastic questions from Becky and been great to hear the way they unpack what they've learned on each episode. A project my class worked on before Christmas break was to build Michigan landmarks in Minecraft education edition. The project was good practice for students to ply our design process plan to check. Act and we'll also pay off down the line. We'll need to scale scale down scale up on some of our items that we design we start with classes Gushin, what makes a landmark landmark and shared some examples starting with our own community than zoomed out to our region, and then to the rest of the state students shared examples, including our local library lighthouses on Lake Michigan sand dunes sports stadiums and many spots on or near mackinac island where many of our students just went in the spring on their fifth grade field trip groups spent time researching significant features and then built their landmarks in the Minecraft platform over three to four class periods to share their progress. Students created Google slide decks that documented design process and shared screen captures of the landmark from different angles. Minecraft education edition has some cool cameras and portfolios to export can take pictures and then put captions with them. And then we found the easiest way to share the pictures was to use the print screen. Lean function and copied the screen shot to the clipboard and pasted it into their slides. I've shared some of the pictures on Twitter, but a student's worked right up until the end. We didn't quite get everything exported out. So I'm looking forward to getting back from winter break and kind of getting the rest of those landmarks and those pictures shared out with everybody 'cause they're pretty cool. I found that my education dishing is a great hook for my classes throughout the year when I can fit it into projects and use it to for teaching. This was a special to write for winter break. Even as we approached our holiday engagement was high and students were showing their best work throughout just want to say, thanks again to bene- Becky, and I look forward to twenty nineteen in other year vein waves, my name's Kim begins. And I am lucky to say I have one of the best jobs in the world because I'm an assessment coordinator. I ain't rain valley schools, and I am so inspired by the work going on in our district around student empowerment and personalization through developing. Osmond capable learners as a Cessna coordinator. I get too often work with teachers around the question the central question. How can we more deeply involve students in the process of their own assessment where students and teachers are seeing themselves at the heart of assessment on an active quest of learnings? We're really pushing to ask students to look themselves for evidence of learning which is a different question than evidence of teaching and is really a with versus to question assessment is oftentimes thought of as something done to students, and I think that's mostly because that's how it has been done has been done to students were trying to flip that script. We're trying to assess with our students even thinking about certain aspects of education that are seemingly authentic to students things like syllabi standards exams. Many of our teachers are actively involving students through reflection various levels and forms of feedback medical condition and other things that can be highly personalized an active were. Were oftentimes looking for learning goals as opposed to performance goals? So let's say that we're looking at a diagnostic assessment and your goal is to show their best learning and reading than six hundred may not embody that message. Very well. But if a student afterwards were to say what today learn about myself during this time, what the did I exhibit. What did I do on Jin questions? What questions were challenging questions were easy? Did it take them on time? I thought it would take was it easier harder than my expectations. Those kinds of things can help put students in the seat of their learning in assessment path and help them identify what they need to do to set those learning goals as opposed to performance goals and not saying the performance goals aren't important, but by incorporating an embracing these various sorts of data than we can truly develop information that can turn into insight that can help students on the path to wisdom. Hey, I'm Sarah hammering coca I teach tenth grade. Pre Abby honors eleventh grade, I b and twelfth grade. IB at now in high school something that I'm doing that's new this year. I don't know that it's new this year. But when I give feedback I'm trying to give one on one feedback that I'm talking individually with students rather than writing comments on their essays on their project or in school g when they turn in assignments. And I feel like I do a lot of feedback before the assignment ever gets turned in because I want students to turn in their best work. I want them to be clear about the rubric in the expectations. So that there's no confusion on their part. So I do a lot of feedback before then feedback after the other thing that I'm really excited about is using technology in a more meaningful way to address different modalities of student learning. So that students are in doing a project, and they incorporate a video that they've made or they incorporate music or they incorporate artwork and students have been really surprising me with how they incorporate their own artwork students who say I'm not are to stick. I can't dry. Can't do anything. They end up taking a video a fast motion video of. Themselves drying over building something, and then that becomes their artwork that becomes their creativity. They share it gives him another sense of how they incorporate in process the information that we've learned in class. So that it's not just regurgitating information. But they're really understanding the information on I see a lot more from students, comprehension, and understanding and then making the connections. Mom is Nate Wilcox from Colorado, and you can follow me on Twitter with the username at Nate Wilcox. Might tip is to get your kids using the new shortcuts app with apple I've had dozens of kids setup shortcuts on their ipad as simple as quick emails and as complicated as asthma attack warning protocols the shortcuts app, formerly known as workflows allows you to utilize numerous apps to create one streamlined process. If you're the type of teacher that has very consistent routine every day, you can set up workflows. They the students started in that routine when they first walk into the classroom. My students start class off by setting a complex goal. On their digital portfolios. Almost every day. This can be a multi step process than involves opening multiple apps, and they can get bogged down by this at times with shortcuts. They can come in with all their apps cleared out in the background and just say, hey, Siri run my daily routine, and every Appleby opened and ready for them in an instance there also tons of shortcuts already created in the gallery section that will make your classroom more efficient. My name is animals in this year. I was offered an incredible opportunity to the innovation coordinator at soaring heights PK eight which is a brand new school in Erie Colorado today, I would like to share our innovative practices at soaring heights or principal Cyrus Weinberger had a vision to create neuroscience focused school. So he allocated thirty five minutes each day for each teacher to teach in innovation class, and my job has been to create in right along in key curriculum for this time for preschool all the way through eighth grade. They're three modules land space. And ocean. They are built around our science standards to create a vertical alignment from preschool. All the way through eighth grade. We've also worked with neuroscientist from the shoes medical campus to develop these neuro science lessons that parallel our modules at the beginning of each module students acquire background knowledge through reading text watching videos gaining a greater, understanding and empathy for their specific subject and they'll go through a series of neuroscience experiments. Listen to guest speakers using Nep Bris go on field trips. They'll go through virtual reality simulations and robotics lessons, and then they go through the design thinking process to solve real world problems. But what's been astonishing is not only what happens during innovation time? But the transfer of what they learn about their brain to the different facets of their life. Let me give you an example. Our sixth grade students are reading the book the giver and to give you a bit of background. If you've never read the book this book is about. Dystopia in society that suppresses the emotion emotions of their citizens and our middle school students in their language arts classroom. We're reading this book and having some small academic discussions and question prompts about the book, and what happened in formulated in this group blew me away. So what I the students were discussing where emotions were localized in the brain. They knew that human logic is found in their frontal lobe, and the motions are in our limbic system, which was absolutely enlightening. I love that. They remember that from their innovation time in their class. But I started hearing questions like is one part of our brain more important than another. Do we need to regulator emotions and how we best do that? What makes us fully human in gives us the ability to interact with each other. But this last one this last one gave me pots, how can we use our brains in the best way to create the most harmonious society? And remember this was a discussion between twelve year old kids. These are students we believe live in this egocentric generation. They're obsessed. Sell fees, and Snapchat and Instagram, but as you can see they're not only applying their knowledge of the brain to this piece of literature in their language arts class, put to how their own actions and behaviors affect our society. What brainwaves I'm plus ity upto from DC ever schools. You can follow me on Twitter at Felicity trapped. Oh, my classroom tip is have you checked out the new voice memos app that came with Iowa's twelve this is super user friendly and has so many uses for the classroom. The voice memos easily share with other applications like see-saw, Google Classroom movie and more one of my favorite uses of memos is to record your thoughts quickly. I know sometimes I have so many ideas flowing out my pencil can't keep up with my brain. How about allowing students to record their initial thoughts for a story. They could even bring that voice memo into an app like notes and Adil stations. Do you have students who could benefit from having test directions? Read out loud. Simply record yourself on voice memos re. Leading the test and then share that with your students by air-dropping or even posting in some place like Google Classroom because there's no limit to record time. Voice memos is the perfect tool for students to record an interview or an important lecture, or how about consider using voice memos to have students respond to a prompt or to give their peers feedback. So those are just a few of the many uses for that voice memos app. Thanks. Hi. I'm Carly Adams from Firestone. Colorado. You can follow me on Twitter at miss Adams zero eight IT first grade, and one of my favorite time-saving hacks is using apple classroom to organize my classroom, ipads, I only have ten ipads in my room. So students are constantly taking turns or working with partners. I color coded. My ten I pads using colored tape to label the I putted self in the been that goes in. Then I color coded the profile picture in the apple classroom apt to match when I see the color on the back of the ipads. It helps me to physically see which students are using which I it helps me to airdrop projects to and from these colored. Ipads, quickly without having to look for an asset tag number, and I can easily use airplay to present a student screen to the projector for all to see color coding using apple classroom. Not only helps our classroom stay organized. But it also helps me manage my classroom while we use technology. I can launch a specific app or website on a student ipad. I can see the screens of each student, and I can help students Dan task by locking them into one app at a time. Hi, I'm Michelle story. I live and work in Kentucky have an ESL instructional coach for JC ES here in Louisville Iranian. I are super fans of the show and listened to all of episodes. But I'd have to say my favorite episode was probably the power of moments with Dan heat. I just kept thinking about all those peak moments and thinking about how we need more of them in schools. Hi, I'm arena McGrath. I'm a middle school ESL, instructional coach JCP s the largest district in Kentucky. I was born and raised in Saint Petersburg Russia, though. And I love rain waves, and one of my favorite episodes is innovative mindset with George Carole's. Michelle Anaya thrilled to share a couple of things with you that we wished when you six months ago, the first one is close captions in Google slides. This feature came out in October and has become one of our favorites. When you present them Google slides click on the close captioned Baden at the in the lower left corner to enable close captioning void up Google slides. Intrinsic will transcribe you words, captions will appear at the bottom of you screen at this time captions and not stored in your computer, therefore, you will need to use green cast defy or any other apt to capture you'll life words way think this is a big win for English learners and students. With hearing impairment. And that's also helpful because we have some English learners with hearing impairments, especially some of our students from Syria, Iraq, the second thing we wish we had known has to do with YouTube. We know that you two clips are great way to pique interest late and built background knowledge in introduced key concepts. But sometimes those videos can be really hard to follow especially for English learners. So we think it's essential to turn on close captioning for students with these videos, and here's the fun part. Go into the settings wheel or caulk in the YouTube settings and adjust the actual speed of the video. We think seventy five percent is a great adjustment. It's slower, but not so slow that impedes communication or is annoying. The listing is the conversation mode and Google translate Google translate used to be pretty good. But now, it is crate conversation mode works on your mobile device Michelle, and I have tested, and it's nearly perfect. This amazing apt translates between one hundred and three languages by typing, and you can have lingual conversations between thirty two languages. They ran on. I curated awake click with slides and video tutorial. In case, you're interested in using these tools, you can search this collection by searching things we wish we knew six months ago. It's on way clip dot com will giddy up on that that was fantastic nothing like getting out of our heads into the classrooms and hearing advice from the people who are doing some of the best work in the country. So thank you so much for everyone who submitted a tip if you want to know who those folks are or get links to their tips, you can find those in show notes by swiping up down left or right depending on which app. You're listening in or check it out just on our website. As always we. Thank you so much for listening and cannot wait for an amazing twenty nineteen. Go have yourself a great generic time day.

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