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"Jared Goff is good enough to go to the Superbowl and that's indisputable, right? He's literally done it. We can modify that with a whole bunch of comments. So I have a lot of feelings about this division. I mean, one, I like the Lions from the perspective of, you know, where their team is for the reasons you described. I also like the Lions, right? I mean, you know, I sort of have Detroit things and I've loved Detroit people. And I have a Lions in law, obviously. Right. Everybody does, right? Because, you know, Detroit is the Israel of America, right? It has this gigantic diaspora, right? And so everybody knows somebody who used to live in Detroit. So I like the Lions. So, and I'd spoken earlier, they were going to talk about this. So I've been watching the Netflix series on quarterbacks and the Netflix series on quarterbacks followed last year three quarterbacks. And it was Pat Mahomes. It was Kirk Cousins and it was Marcus Mariota. And that's, you know, that's actually an awesome selection of quarterbacks, right? And I'm glad they had that kind of access, right? Especially to Mahomes, right? Because you're not always going to get that. And it's a very interesting series. I mean, part of the issue is I don't like any of the three. I don't like any of the three quarterbacks, right? I mean, Pat Mahomes, as you would imagine, is just an arrogant fuck, right? I mean, he sits around in the locker room watching his best plays after the game and talking to all his friends about like the awesome things that he did, right? His spouse is horrible and exactly what he deserves. Oh my God. Yeah, no, exactly. She's terrible. And then they're like high school sweethearts, right? I mean, like they've been together since high school, right? And anyway, I just don't like him at all, but he's an identifiable NFL archetype, right? He's exactly who he should be, right? And Kirk Cousins is also sort of this identifiable archetype, right? He's this, you know, sort of really Christian guy. His faith is super important to him. You know, he's very much like your memory, like and like, you know, the feeling from the show is that he's very much sort of like a bargain basement, Kurt Warner. But Kurt Warner was really good, right? And so even the bargain basement version of Kurt Warner is pretty solid. And I think we underrate Kirk Cousins and we've sort of underrated him for most of his career because he actually has a pretty solid resume by this point. And the third was like Marcus Mariota, right? And I've told you guys, right? It's like, man, what are you even doing in professional football, right? Like he just like and what's interesting about this referring back to the conversation we had about Justin Herbert is that Oregon football seems to select for these guys, right? Like Mariota, Herbert, Joey Harrington back in the day. And when we do our NFL draft pod, we've made fun of this argument that, oh, you know, somebody has to have the personality to be a quarterback, right? And the NFL always really like, so this toxic masculinity stuff. But then you watch the show and it's like, you know, the Falcons are 0 and 2 and they're going into Seattle and like all Mariota can talk about is how much he enjoys hiking the Northwest, right? And that's what he's telling the people at practices, right? He's like talking about, oh, yeah, we beat the Huskies on this field. Let's go hiking. It's like, no, no, that's I can understand why people don't want to follow you into the gates of hell, right? Because, you know, like you don't have any confidence in yourself, much less than what the team is supposed to be doing here, right? And so it made me sort of wonder, like, maybe a lot of scouts are right when they're looking at these personalities and like saying, like, you know, Mariota, he's just he just doesn't have a personality like a starting quarterback in the NFL. Like Talon Clemons didn't, but it didn't hurt him, right? I mean, it's been a very interesting show watching it because I'm just like, come on, do something, Marcus, come on, please. You're a talented guy. Do something, right? And he's just like robustly. No, I'm not going to do anything. I remember Bill James writing it. You know, somebody asked him what he learned about working in the Red Sox. And he said, you know, the thing is about like sports writers, like so much of what you talk about in a clubhouse is bullshit because it's just sports writers like, you know, picking on players they don't like from their is, but it really is important. It's like 100% important when you see it. You have a dysfunctional clubhouse, you're generally not going to win, like it actually matters. So there are times when these narratives about players are just bullshit, but there are the Josh Rosens and Johnny Manziel's for whom the narrative is 100%, you know, and, you know, that these guys just do not have the mental makeup to succeed at that level. And that happens, too. So it's just it's very hard to separate the signal from the noise. But I sometimes think, you know, kind of analytically inclined fans just become inclined to write it all off as nonsense, that it's just it's all like you can play, you can't, doesn't matter. It matters. You know, for the same reason coaching matters, you know, that that ultimately, you know, your your team has to be headed in the same direction and has to have confidence in each other. And that's especially at a position as important in quarterback. You know, it's like only a certain kind of person could do it. And there's a variety, obviously, within that. But yeah, it's it's watching that. And I've only seen the first one so far. But you definitely like I would much rather hang out with Marcus Mariota than than than Patrick Mahomes. But, you know, you can see why one of those very talented players became top NFL quarterback and the other one did, you know, with surprising accuracy. And again, it's not, you know, what those traits are not necessarily desirable traits in a lot of ways. But, you know, you can you can see it really cousins, actually, probably. I ended up hating him less than I expected to sort of like, you know, forgive the faith. He seems like a fairly decent guy, you know, and and he does seem genuinely beloved by his teammates. So he he actually probably he came off surprisingly well, actually. Like, I liked the last thing. Right. I mean, you know, Mahomes, Mahomes teammates, they worshipped him even if they didn't like it. Right. And cousins, teammates loved him. And Mariotas teammates, you're like, you know, is this really the guy who's good? And you feel that from the same thing with the Titans. Right. It was the same way with the Titans for sort of, you know, discussions that came out of them. It's just like, I'm not sure this is the guy. Right. I'm not sure he has the personality maker. And people say the same thing about Justin Herbert. And that's one of the reasons I sort of wonder about Herbert's Herbert's next steps. So, yeah, although Mariotas was never his guy. I mean, one thing I'll say about Herbert is that, you know, he's he's he's playing at a higher level than than any of those other guys. Yeah. So I'm not you know, it's I don't know. Yeah. And and I still give Herbert a bit of a pass. I would like to see him with a real coach at some point. Like, you know, I I don't know how how Staley survived that playoff last year. I have no fucking idea. Like, I just I don't know what they're like. I don't know. It's just that whole organization is just bizarre. It's it's really weird. But, you know, it is it is always a concern. But I do think that that, you know, I will say that I wouldn't I wouldn't be I wouldn't write Herbert off quite yet. I think I would even come close to writing him off. He's top five quarterback of the NFL. Like, you know, he may be fifth and he may be fifth in that in that. But, you know, he's he's a freaking awesome quarterback. And I think that, you know, personality or whatever. I don't know. I mean, I don't know, I guess. But he certainly has proved himself tough. Right. And he certainly is has hung in there and played when, you know, his ribs were crushed. The plane through injury question has been firmly dismissed out. But what do you think, Eric, about that that the personality based argument? I mean, and especially as applied to Oregon quarterbacks. Right. Because we've had to deal with this criticism for a long time. I I don't I don't have I mean, to me, this to me, this feels like. Yeah, there's been a couple of quarterbacks that didn't have the personality play in the NFL. I mean, Joey Harrington's probably didn't have accuracy. I don't know. And maybe the personality is part of it, too. He also threw like 50 percent of college. So I like the Kelly Smith thing. He was never a top five. Like, yeah, no. And so some of that's so, you know, to me, this this this can also sound a little bit like the narrative of, you know, remember, remember when Jeff Tedford couldn't couldn't produce an NFL quarterback? It's on Aaron Rodgers, my twenty fifth. Yeah. You know, I was like, what's the other side of it? That's the other side. It's like it could be pretty tough. Is there a personality basis to it? Quarterback? Probably there is. But I don't think it has anything to do with Oregon, especially when you're talking about, you know, three or four quarterbacks over a twenty five year period. Like, not everybody, not everybody in Eugene is sitting around, you know, smoking weed and like worshiping a tree goddess. Are you are you sure about that, Loomis? I'm pretty sure that's not true, Loomis. I'm pretty sure everyone in Eugene is doing that. Well, maybe they are. Most are. But they're not all the same. So the Rogers thing is interesting in that in a sense, some of the personality complaints against him are valid. It's just that he was so good that it didn't matter that much. That's the thing. It's like, you know, like he is a massive pain in the ass, but like when you're not good, it just doesn't matter. Although one could also point out that that could be a reason why, as great as he is, you know, he's had notably less postseason success than than one should. Although we can also blame one M McCarthy. In all fairness to you, like, like Rogers is a hard guy to coach, but he's also, you know, he had legitimate complaints, so it cuts both ways. That is 100 percent true. It's actually I'm you know, the one thing that the Jets will be fun to watch. I actually genuinely interested to see how that plays out, how that how that plays out this year. And I guess that should bring us to both the models and like kind of looking around. A lot of people seem fairly high on the Packers. And I guess the case is, first of all, again, like the, you know, not a good conference. You know, LaFleur seems like a really good coach. I mean, they were still pretty good last year, even with Rogers having a real off year. You know, I don't like the I'm still I don't know. I would say I'm not a believer in Jordan Love at all. And I don't like the receiving talent. I mean, Watson's OK. There's not much there. Good running game. But again, how much is that worth? Good offensive line. So I guess it's another of those cases where, you know, love doesn't have to be great. He has to be OK for them to be competitive in this division. I'm not sure there's even that good. And I guess we're going to see how good Matt LaFleur is. You know, I mean, the team was definitely better under him in the regular season than it was under late McCarthy, despite Rogers being older. But, you know, again, you know, the sort of they were very good at beating up on a bad division and sort of crumbled the second they got any, you know, playing anybody. But, you know, late Russell Wilson in the playoffs. So, you know, it's you know, so I guess I. Having said that, do I like the Packers more? Well, you see, I don't know. I mean, I think the Vikings obviously I think everybody knows the Vikings are going to regress like that was one team where like nobody thought that record was at face value. Like that's like everybody recognized that was fraudulent. But, you know, there is a and again, obviously the models really hate them. But look, I mean, Cousins and I'm going to have more about this when we get to the Seahawks. But I mean, you know, Cousins is a competent plus NFL quarterback with the best receiver in football. I don't think they'll lose anything by moving on from Cook. You know, the defense is not very good, but, you know, I it's interesting that the models have the Packers better than the Vikings, because I although I don't particularly like either team, I myself, I think, would pick it. Detroit, then Minnesota, then Green Bay, then Chicago. And I'm not sure there's a wild card. I think one reason I like the Cowboys is a wild card is that I don't really like a wild card out of this division. Yeah, I concur almost entirely with that. I mean, I think that I think that, you know, Lions are solid, right? And the Vikings, you know, they'll put it together. And I don't have any optimism about the other two teams, especially the Bears. They're terrible. They are. But I do want to say that, you know, Justin Fields had a pretty huge jump last year, and some of it was just being allowed to run. But the Bears are certainly not a good team. But I do think that Justin Fields might be a real NFL quarterback, and that's the biggest first step that you have. Now, we'll see this year, does the passing accuracy improve, right? And that's critical here. But you have to feel much better about Chicago, I think, than you did a year ago if you're a Bears fan, which still means your team sucks, because you're a Bears fan, but still, I think there's something there. As for the Packers, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if Jordan Love, you know, had a top out in that kind of, like, average, like a Daniel Jones, like an average-ish just slightly below. Can you win with that? Well, you can win some games with that. And, you know, this is, I don't think, a deep playoff team at all. But I don't know that the Packers are terrible. I really don't like the Vikings much because their defense is so bad. But I do think Jordan Addison was a really good draft pick for them. As a number two receiver, especially given the attention Justin Jeffers is going to be getting, I think that's a solid move. So, you know, this conference is so bad, and we're about to get to the south, that actually I could see two teams sneaking in out of this, but only because the NFC sucks. Yeah, I think that's about right. So, you know, I can understand some skepticism about the Lions. But I just, you know, and again, they're being built in a fundamentally sound manner. That's the thing. It's not just, we have Calvin Johnson, you know, they're not just being built on one star. You know, the offensive line is good. They're improving the defensive line. And I think the real key of the Lions is going to be the defense looked a lot better in the last quarter of the season. And the question is whether they can maintain that improvement. And I think if their offensive line is healthy, they'll move the ball. You know, again, Goff can play out of a, if you protect him. I love the receiving talent on that team. And yeah, I don't like spending a, you know, top 12 pick on a running back, but he does look good. You know, I mean, you know, that there's not a knock on the player. At least he looks like a legitimate receiver as well. Yeah. And that's where, if it's an example, that could be interesting. I don't like that pick either. But, you know, it may work out given his, you know, you're not drafting him to be a bell cow running back. So that's smart. And the one thing is that, you know, and again, Goff is an underrated quarterback, but he needs weapons. He's not somebody who's going to, you know, he needs guys who can, you know, you know, take throws and run after the catch. And so I think that it's more defensible in some, and it's still like 12 is very different than like top five too. And especially a team that already has edge rushers and already has receivers. And plus my understanding is that they also got great value with their other picks. So it's sort of weird that if you just rearrange their draft picks, it would be fine. So they ended up doing, so they had a really good draft despite that. So yeah, I just think that, you know, I understand, I don't think any Lions fan is going to fully believe until they see it, but they certainly seem like the classes division to me. And I hope so, because I think that would be great for great for football. We should probably move on here to the NFC South, which is another shitty division. I, boy, I don't like any of these teams. I mean, I guess, you know, I guess you maybe pick the Saints here because you have to pick somebody. I certainly can't see Carolina and Tampa doing much. And Atlanta, you know, I don't know, man. This is a really bad division. You know, you're basically relying on like, oh, clearly now Derek Carr has made somebody the best team in the division. Yeah. So projections are like the projections, like the division's slightly better than the North. So basically both the Falcons and Saints, both basically 10 wins. Falcons slightly better. And then that's my Ritter is not, it's not the quarterback of a 10 win team. I'm sorry. Like, is that defensible at all? How do you defend the Falcons at a 10 win team? And then Tampa seven and a half and the Carolina 6.3. So yeah, it does not like either of those days. Here's the, a lot of Sharps seem to like the Falcons. So let me try to reconstruct a lot. Well, first of all, it all comes back to like, this conference sucks. Like they're in the SE. So I think the idea is here. Falcons have certainly, I think by a pretty substantial margin, the best skill talent in this division. They have, they've got London, they have pits. It's like a really good collection of wide outs. And again, B. John Robinson, I would not have selected him top five, but again, he seems like a dual threat back. So I think it's a situation where like Ritter does not like, he basically, he needs to be the equivalent of Jared Goff. You're not going to need him to do spectacular things. You're going to need him to, especially if London is able to stretch the field, you're going to need him to like hit guys wide open and have them run. Whether he's even capable of that, I agree is an open question. That's the one thing, you know, and again, their defense, it looks like they've, they've solidified it through the draft. It's still not great. So I think that the case of them as a 10 win team is just that, like, again, they're they, and I would say, look at the schedules that they, in fact, let's run through this. Cause I remember, cause I had to say my initial reaction was exactly the same as yours. Like I like Desmond Ritter is not the quarterback of a 10 win team. Like I, that was my first reaction, but let's, let's see, let's, let me just, let's run through this, the kind of schedule, like playing like a non first place schedule in this division. So Falcons. Yeah, it's a pretty easy schedule. Yeah. So you got Carolina. I'd say that's a win. Packers. I probably slightly like the Falcons more. Okay. Lions loss at Detroit. Jacksonville. That's probably lost. Texans. Commanders. Buccaneers. Titans. Vikings. Arizona. Saints. Go against competitive. Jets. Okay. Bucks again. Panthers again. Colts. Bears. Saints. That team can win 10 games. Like, even if you don't believe in Ritter, that team can win 10 games. That is a fucking cupcake schedule. It is a cupcake schedule. It is a cupcake schedule. I just don't see 10 wins. And that's very fair. I, you know, it's just like this. I, I, it's not something I feel comfortable betting on, but I can at least understand the model. Let's put that in. Well, I guess the other thing is too, is how much do you really like the saints? I mean, yeah. Car is like, I'd rather have car than any other quarterback in the division, but that's says more about the rest of the division than, you know, he was also not very good last year. Uh, I don't really expect anything out of Camara. I don't say, you know, Thomas is legitimately outstanding. And I guess as a, as a crystal of a fantasy owner, I'm betting on the Derek Carr resurrection and not very comfortably all the time, you know, but, uh, you know, I mean, so, I mean, I think that the case for Derek Carr resurrection is there, right? I mean, you know, let's just be frank about the Raiders, right? They're a horrible franchise, right? You know, for a really long time, they're a bad, even when they're good, they're a bad franchise, right? They're bad for the players who play for them, right? I mean, and, you know, so moving on from them, I think, you know, there, there's, there's a non-trivial, like, hope that, you know, there's going to be something else here in Derek Carr's career, right? Well, I mean, I mean, I mean, you certainly can't complain about the situation. I mean, he's clearly the best quarterback in this division. Right. You know, and, and, and right. I mean, it can't be worse than playing for the Raiders. So sure, I, I grant you that. I think the Saints will win the division, but I mean, I wouldn't bet on this team in playoffs. Dennis Allen, that's not, that's not a great track record. I mean, I, if you held a gun to my head and asked me to like pick the, the team to win the division, I guess I'd pick the Saints, but yeah, I don't, I don't, you know, I, I don't like them a lot. I mean, I, I would say this, I would rather watch the Falcons day in and day out because like they have a lot more interesting players than the Saints do. And, and, and I also think Smith is a good offensive mind. I just, yeah, I think that the, but I do share the idea that I like, you know, if that time had a cop, like if the Falcons had Derek Carr, they would be far and away the favorites in this division. It's a question of whether Ritter could even be competent at that. Yeah, I agree that that is at best. Are we sleeping on Baker Mayfield? Oh, wait, no, no, you're not. He sucks. I mean, you do wonder if he's going to make it appear. I mean, that's, that's one of the potential playoff teams that actually like had at least a competent bat. I mean, I think, see Mayfield is interesting because he does strike me as the kind of guy who could probably be reasonably effective, making easy throws to like good skill talent. You do wonder if you're going to see him. Cause I mean, you know, Mayfield actually was like, not bad. He's starting for Tampa. He's starting on Sunday. Oh, Tampa. Sorry. Yeah. Don't forget. Yeah. Sorry for the bucking of your idea. Sorry about that. Yeah. No, that's right. He's with, with, I totally forgot. Who is the backup in Atlanta? Desmond Ritter is his own backup in Atlanta. That's it. They're just like, that's it. Like, like the Patriots. It's Taylor Heinecky. Would you, would you agree there's a bit of a transition in terms of style and talent and literally every other thing that is associated with the human condition between Tom Brady and Baker Mayfield? Yeah. Yeah. And again, so, so in comparison to that, like, you know, I think Mayfield's, you know, has some ability if surrounded by a lot of talent, but that, that is no longer the case in Tampa. So, you know, but it does mean that I liked them more, you know, I yeah. So, I mean, I liked them more than, well, I mean, what do we think about Bryce Young? I guess that's the, the other question. We'll see. I mean, I think it's, it's just, you know, it's not a good team, you know, rookie quarterback. I, I, to me, these quarterbacks felt, I mean, I can see why Arizona, we'll get to Arizona in a second, but I can see why they're tanking for Caleb Williams because it's clearly a superior quarterback prospect than, you know, than any of the guys who came out this year. So, if, if, you know, if, if he could be average, then, you know, the Panthers are probably pretty happy with that, but I don't, I, I'm skeptical. Yeah. Their current projected wide receiver number one is the washed up remains of Adam Phelan. DJ Shark is already hurt and that means Jonathan Mingo. The legend. Not exactly a lot of support for the rookie quarterback here. That is rough. So, you know, so again, I think that's why the models end up like the Falcons that like, I'd certainly rather have Young than Ritter, but man, Young is not, that's not, that's not a lot to work with, you know, so yeah, I know. So yeah, so like at least, yeah, so Mayfield may look a little better just because of that, but, but yeah, that's, again, there are situations in which Baker Mayfield could and I think it's pretty clear that's not one of them. So, so I, again, I think that's why, so I could, you know, so I think that that's part of it is that the, the Saints and Falcons are not good, but they're, they're pretty clearly a lot better than the other two teams in the division, which I think is why they, so again, that the wind totals also reflect quality of competition, right there. So I think that's, yeah, so, so yeah, so, so I, I actually, my, I, I'm going to boldly predict that the team that does not win the division between Atlanta and New Orleans is, gets a wildcard because I think those schedules are ridiculous. You might be right about that. Well, that leads us to I think our last division and we'll pick some playoffs, playoffs and Super Bowls and that's the NFC West, which of course for Scott and I are the most important division, where you have a obviously very good Niners team. Maybe again, a year ago we were talking about this as one of the, you know, like three great teams in the Seahawks. The Cardinals just completely collapsed. In fact, I did not like the Cardinals. That's what I got right. No, I was the only one who thought the Cardinals were going to be any good. You guys, you guys called me out on that and I think appropriately. Okay. Well, okay. And then the Rams, which, you know, obviously they had a scrubs and star strategy that was going to fail. I didn't expect to fail that immediately. I thought they had one more year, but I guess it works. They got the Super Bowl, but they are pretty lost right now. And then Seattle, which is a real huge question mark, I think. I mean, I like where the Seahawks are going and we'll get into this more, but to me, this is an interesting division, not only in the sense of what Seattle is going to do. Everything else seems almost predestined here. So projections are, well, only one even modeled surprise. So, you know, Giants predicted, you know, Tide as the best team in football, 11 wins. Seahawks only 8.2. And I understand why the models are a little skeptical, although I would certainly expect to be better. And then the Rams 5.8 and the Cardinals 5.8. And I think, I believe the Vegas over under on the Cardinals is now four. And remember, when that came out, they probably assumed Colt McCoy was going to be the starter. They don't know there's going to be Joshua Dobbs or whoever the, who the hell is the other guy? Jesus. So yeah, by the way, speaking of, dude, did any of you see the hard knocks with the Cardinals last year? Speaking of people in over their head, Mr. Cliff Kingsbury in a way, he almost came off as likable in a way that he was like, just, you know, but like, oh man, that is, oh, there's also a really funny video of the Cardinals actually released video. I should do a blog with this, like Jonathan Gannon, like hyping up the team. He's like, are you guys ready to run through a wall? And they just pan around to these, like, these guys are like, they're sitting in my class or like a completely bored, like, that he sounds like, like he's trying to sound tough and he just sounds incredibly dorky. It's just, oh man, that, that is going to be train wreck. So I think that, I think that the, you know, I can see that the, the models thinking, you know, the Seahawks, like Gino had a career year. You can't expect that to repeat. The defense is really not very good. They want a lot of close games. Yeah. I think the giants have, yeah. The only, the only thing about the giants is the Niners, the Niners, sorry. The only one with the Niners is just, you know, that, that, you know, if, you know, if Purdy can hold up and if not, whether Darnold can, you know, like that'll be the real test of Kyle Shanahan is if like Sam Darnold, you know, and it is, and again, that's, that's where that, that Lance trade is so devastating. But yeah, I mean, that team is absolutely stacked. Otherwise, like, you know, they have by far the best defense in the division and incredible position talent. And again, a team that does not need great quarterback play, only competent quarterback play, but that's not a given. That's the thing. Can we talk about what a brilliant move trade Christian McCaffrey was last year? That's one of the great mid season trades of all time. Yeah. That's the one player for that system. The exception that proves the rule. And again, I think that we're reaching on running backs. I think if they have real receiving talent is the one, you know, so that's where like the Robinson and Gibb things I wouldn't have done, but at least are a little more defensible. And yeah, that's the one case where, and really the only, the only issue about McCaffrey's health, but if he stays healthy in that system, he's essentially unstoppable. Like there's nothing, you know, that's just, he's an absolutely perfect fit there. And that's so like, and that did help to make up for that. And that's, you know, the, the one thing is that as horrible as that Lance trade is, it's amazing how stacked that roster is given that they gave away essentially three top picks. It's, it's kind of like, like Lynch and Shanahan are really, really good. Yeah. So yeah, so there are obviously, you know, I have a lot more quite, you know, if they were in the other conference, you know, the fact that they're like so much worse at quarterback than the other top contenders would begin to hurt in this conference, it's not, it's not that big of a deal. So yeah, I think barring injury or just, you know, Purdy turning into a pumpkin, you know, I think, I think they win this division. You know, the Seahawks are interesting in that, you know, they, first of all, if assuming that the new wideout is healthy, I think they'll have three good wideouts for the first time in franchise history. Like, is there an exception? I can think of like, if they ever had like a good third receiver, like ever, like even the Super Bowl teams, like fucking Jermaine curse was their WR two for Christ sakes. So, you know, I mean, I think that's it and that's, and Lockett is, you know, probably most, is one of the most underrated players in football. Hasn't lost a step at all. Metcalf is good. And again, I don't love the second round pick on a running back, but you know, having said that, like no running back can play 16 games for Pete Carroll for some reason. So they need like five a year. So I guess, you know, that's okay. And then obviously the key is that if the offensive line continues to develop, you know, and Gino is interesting, right? But I think it's another situation where they have a good enough offense that they're not asking Gino to be a star. They're asking him to like, make, you know, throws to players, make plays. And he's always had the arm, you know, and I think his decision making has improved a little. So you might expect a little regression, but I think, I don't think last year is completely out of Gino's range. I think that's, I think you can do that. So I think the offense should be pretty good. I mean, the question is just the defense, which has really been, you know, ordinary or worse since the Legion of Booming Spandex. And I still don't know. I think the thing about the Seahawks, you have to remember is that this was supposed to be year two of a rebuild, right? They were supposed to be horrible last year. And then they just went and just had the best draft, I guess maybe for the Jets, in the NFL. I mean, Tariq Wolin becoming, you know, basically one of the top five quarterback in the NFL as a fifth round rookie out of UT San Antonio. Let's say we didn't expect that one, right? And, you know, the only top pick, you know, the two tackles were strong. The only top pick that really wasn't that good last year was Maith, the linebacker. And by all accounts, he should be much improved this year. He had a good preseason. He did look a lot better in the P.I. So, you know, and, you know, this draft class, again, looks pretty strong, too. I mean, you know, they got two amazing, you know, theoretically, anyway, pretty amazing guys in the first round, neither in the per se position of need. But I think that when we're looking at, say, their run defense and we say, yeah, it's pretty weak, it is because this team was supposed to be horrible last year. And they've improved in a lot of areas in which they really were not supposed to be good. But, you know, they're not a Super Bowl contender, right? You know, even if Geno is what he was last year, they're not a Super Bowl contender. So I think we have to look another year or two ahead before we can see Seattle as a contender again. But the fact that they're even here at this point, given what we were saying a year ago, is a remarkable, remarkable job by Schneider and especially in terms of the draft and really by Carroll in terms of coaching them up. Yeah. And Cross and Lucas are especially huge, like, assuming they continue to develop, because that's just a foundation you can build with. Do we know about Witherspoon's health status? Is he going to play week one? I know Adam's, not that Adam's that big a deal anyway. But yeah, I'm not sure if he, let me see, we know that's been somewhat up in the air. He is still, well, he's listed as questionable. He's practicing, I think. You know, they may have just been holding him out just to, you know, get him right. And they do think Smith Majibe should play, right? Is that my understanding? That seems likely, yeah. Okay, yeah, so that's good. And it also looks like they'll be starting against a Rams team with no Cooper Cup, which is currently not even in LA. He's getting his hamstring looked at by some specialist. And man, that offense without comment. Man, man, is there a worse phrase in sports than getting his hamstring looked at? Yeah, and especially in that position. Speaking of depth charts, let's just look at the old LA Rams depth chart here. I believe they have Steven Skronick and American Football Development, or not Steven Skronick, whatever the fuck. With Ben Skronick? Yeah, yeah, Ben, yeah. So, yeah, so Cooper Cup questionable. They have Van Jefferson, Tutu Atwell, Puka Nasua, and Ben Skronick. Man, that is a bleak fucking group. And I, you know, what do we think about it? I personally think Stafford is washed. I don't know if that's the consensus, but again, he might still be good enough to win with a really good team around him. To put it mildly, he does not have that. No, I mean, he got what he wanted. He got his shot. He got his Super Bowl. Good for him. But yeah, he's hopeless in this situation. I mean, there's already a story that came out last week about Stafford's old man complaining. I guess it was his wife who was complaining. Stanford's old man complaining that all these young kids just, you know, all they do is they look into their phones and they don't listen to him. It's like, yeah, maybe this isn't the right situation for you anymore, dude. And by the way, did you guys see Stetson Bennett in the pre-season? Oh, I'm not. I'd rather have Malik Willis. Yeah, that is a fucking woof. Yeah, and he's the only backup. That is a bleak goddamn situation. Yeah, so when you're starting quarterback as a bad shoulder and that's your 28-year-old who looked okay in Georgia, that is a rough. If Stetson Bennett actually has to start some games, then Arizona's going to pass them. Yeah, I mean, the only good thing I can see about this team, well, there's two good things. Obviously, they have one of the three or four best defenders in football if he's healthy. And, you know, the fact that McVeigh wanted to come back suggests that there must be some talent there that we're not seeing. He must think that there's something there, right? Yeah, but he could also be deluded. Yeah, that's true, too. But anyway, if the talent was there, he must see something that is not evident because that could be really bad. And boy, the Cardinals, whoa, God. So what do we got? Let's let us look at this. Yeah, that's a bad, that starting receiver trio of Marquis Brown, Ron Dale Moore, and some guy named Greg Dorch. Really makes you feel good. They're just some names, some names are not designed for success, right? These are just maddened names. Like these are not real players. Ken Griffey baseball 1987 names, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So basically, the number one receiver is like a guy who was supposed to be good and didn't quite make it, and is still far better than anybody else in there, you know. Yeah, and they've got like what, a hobbled Zach Ertz as their top tight end. Oh, man, yeah, failed. You know, I mean, obviously, the plan must be to move on from Kyler at the end of the year because there's no way I think that if they are this bad is expected and with no pick, that they're not going to take Caleb Williams, they signed Kyler that huge contract, which, of course, was controversial in itself because of the, you know, they threw in that clause because they didn't think he worked hard enough or whatever. So I don't know, I mean, like this franchise is a mess, but you know, the Cardinals are almost always a mess. Like the year they made the Super Bowl, it's like the Cardinals, you know, I mean, this is bad ownership. Well, that was just Kurt Warner, right, who was like the ultimate wild card in so many teams, right? So I took a nothing team and a nothing coach and just almost wanted a Super Bowl single hand like Ian Fitzgerald, basically. It's like, right. Yeah. And then they also, they briefly like hired, they for once hired a good coach and had cars and the the end of Carson Palmer's career. That's basically the only two times they've been and then looked pretty good for certain periods of, you know, and it's kind of two bags. It would have been interesting to see what Kyler Murray would have done with like a better coach. But, you know, now it kind of was injury problem. Like he may not see the field this year. Like you really wonder if they're just going to say, oh, no, no, you know, let's make sure you're healed up for the. And speaking of fake names, the backup quarterback is one Clayton Toon. Yeah, yes. Yeah. Another another name. It makes you feel good. I think I think he was somebody that they beat in Friday Night Lights or something like that. Or is he actually played at Houston? Yes, that seems about right. So, yeah, this is so, yeah, I mean, basically I'd probably pick the Rams to finish ahead of them just because like McVeigh at least gives them some infrastructure, like, you know, McVeigh will probably figure out like as long as Stafford is on the field, they will figure out a way to move the ball against bad defenses. And it doesn't look like Cooper cups going to be up for the year. Although, again, that's bad hamstring. That's not right. That's a problem. But yeah, I know. But man, the bottom of this division is just so I would like both the 49ers and Seahawks because man, you know, but having said that, the division like the they do not have schedules as easy as those south teams. They'll get to beat up on the dregs their own division, but they both have pretty tough schedules otherwise. But yeah, I like I like both 49ers and Seahawks to to to make the playoffs. Well, why don't we want to make some playoff predictions here? Maybe championship like championship game teams or do you want to go deeper than that? Let's let's let's go playoffs. Let's do the playoffs and then let's pick. Let's pick some Super Bowl teams.
"adam phelan" Discussed on Fantasy Football Today Podcast
"We're very happy with the end result. Her top five tight ends this week. Gronk and kelsey and hopkinson and juwan johnson and then dallas goddard is v four catches forty two yards and a touchdown. He's top five going into sunday night. Gronk kelsey hopkinson. John johnson gutter. You don't wanna have done it to say much about kelsey your hopkinson but gronk and who's the best out of these three gronk. John johnson dallas gutter gutter. I think i'm gonna say man. You could look foolish saying that. The way gronk played on thursday. Yeah i on laugh in the list for sure. Yes bronx close to got her. They're both low in number ones. Now i think jaune. I'm not buying this thing and also like we're talking about the top five tired ends when two of the top five titans play tomorrow so as true kit. Oh by the way had the third most yards among tight ends. He had seventy eight yards. That anybody care about david jokue and his three catches for seventy six yards. Ruined austin hooper. Okay all right guys. That's your top five. Let's go through the games and tell me if there's anything we did not cover arizona. Thirty eight and tennessee thirteen heath. What do you got for. Believe it or not. Believe it or not. The titans are bad not block arizona. Upfront they couldn't protect tannehill at all. I believe you. They will be bad if they can't block any better than that. Of course but i think that they can work on that and get better than that at that. Let me give you. What i think is a bit of an underrated storyline in this game. As i just gotta pull up the box score. I already got it. Great the targets hopkins said eight. Aj green had six kirk had five and he caught two touchdowns by the way. Rondo moorhead. Five chase edmunds had. Four hopkins hopkins may to great place to catch two touchdowns but obviously things could change. He could have twelve targets next week. But we don't want to see this type of distribution dewey. We know no but this could be a sign that this is what we're going to get. They realized that they didn't have a whole lot with the andre hopkins last year so they signed jay green and they drafted rondell. More they onto christian kirk. Those are going to be. We're the targets are going to go. Plus jason edmonds. We'll get targets. Twenty twenty hundred hopkins target's share concerns are finally coming true all right. Let's go to cincinnati twenty-seven minnesota twenty four. This was a great game. Went all the way down to the wire in overtime. Kirk cousins twenty six. Oh sorry go ahead. No this one was weird to you. Mentioned the target share by my believe it or not would be that cage. Osborne's going to be a thing. Nine targets seven catches seventy six yards. I know he's fast. I didn't really watch much day. We saw k j osborne. He's not an he's said miami hurricane he's especially i know he was looking more of a special teams for everybody. Got a chance to play a little bit today. I can't believe he'll be a thing because the nine targets for justin jefferson and the tin for adam phelan fantastic but if this is like every other vikings game and they throw thirty passes instead of fifty. Those numbers are not very impressive at all Now sixty seven snaps. For k j osborne.
"adam phelan" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"It's see minnesota. Vikings are in their adam. Phelan yeah you forget about him. Justin jefferson in there. I just don't know about that team that that could be all boy. They're surprising people could be who they didn't surprise. Anybody denver broncos they have talent cortlandt sutton is good. But you know you got bridgewater thrown to him jerry. Judy how about we hold onto a football. I think they know a fan is good. I like fan wants to. We have in no offense but you have no chance to win. Hey thank you chuck. The niners are in here deebo. Samuel you got kittle. Yes mclovin this whole thing is silly. The wide receiver rank. Because if you don't have a quarterback you don't have wide receivers. That's why the broncos had those guys last year and got an offensive line. And you got to have that. I mean had calvin really and julio jones last year and we started out. Oh and seven. See the falcons are one of the great mysteries for me. I can't wait to watch the falcons. You got good wide receivers even though you lost. Julio jones she got pits in their matt ryan is still good quarterback. I'm just. I'm curious if they if they play spoiler in that division. Could they'd be better than the saints. I know how crazy is that. May sound just throwing that out there. I gotta take a break here. We're gonna just warm it up. I know i know. And i got to. I got to take derek jeter to task coming up here in a little bit. We're going to have a hot take contest coming up right. We don't do hot takes. but today's an exception. Nfl season heartaches danettes will offer up a heartache. I decide if it is odd. Take and how hot it is the level of hotness. We'll check in with the cowboys and the buccaneers. We'll do so next here on the dan. Patrick show we're getting older and we. Well that's inevitable but that doesn't mean to slow down that's why m. drive is gonna help you. Everyday supplement for german guys refused to let age beat them and drives clinically tested. 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"adam phelan" Discussed on The Rich Eisen Show
"Got the. Us open coming up next week. Father's day coming up next week got the nba playoffs moving forward. You got the nhl playoffs getting towards championships the nfl. You've got mandatory minicamps finishing up this week and then next week he got some being cancelled some going down. The titans have mandatory mini camp. Next week we just had a fun. Chat with taylor lewan From the tennessee. Titans he's getting back on the field after tearing up his knee last year And the titans as we all know. Julio jones nate burleson joining us from Good morning football and cbs sports. He is your emmy award. Winning studio analysts all right sports world so Nate's going to be joining us in an interesting question. I want to ask him. And maybe we can back this one around before we get to your news. Update jimmy smits. Our number three on the program. is who would you say is the best wide receiver duo in the national football league. Now that julio jones's with aj you've got those two you have deondraye hopkins and aj green in arizona. Decay entitled tyler lockett in seattle. We got mike. Evans and chris godwin in tampa. I know of. Michael gallup takes another step forward you In dallas tj. Raise your hand and say what about amari. Cooper and michael gallup. I don't know if he's there just yet. How this one that. Nobody's talking about how. 'bout odell beckham junior. And jarvis juice landry in cleveland. There's a reason why we're not because odell got hurt last year. I haven't seen in a while while he's kind of forgotten. Same thing with your cleveland browns organization. What about a team. What if i. What if i told you i told you there is a team that won a playoff game last year. What if i told you the team that won a playoff game last year after winning eleven regular season games. What i told you as a team that won eleven regular season games won a playoff game last year and pushed the Eventual conference champions two Something remotely close to a limit at least the best that we saw an afc team do in the playoffs. Last year. in the city chiefs right. What if i told you that. Team at a third-place schedule. What if i told you. That team had a third place schedule. After winning a playoff game and eleven regular season wins and is getting one of the more talented wide receivers back at the position with if you will the best running back tandem in the league behind an offensive line that protects their young quarterback. Enough he's coming off of their best season. What would you think about that. Team's chances in two thousand twenty one. You be talking them up like them if they weren't the cleveland browns seriously. I don't think. I just told anything out of school right there. I think the past matters. Why why would the past matter. The only pass that matters is the most recent past in the most recent past is last year's cleveland browns team mop the floor with the pittsburgh steelers before beating them up and then moving to kansas city and and given the chiefs quite game you could make a case that the browns gave the chiefs a better game than the bills did and then they have third place schedule. They're gonna play everybody else's third place team now. That's kind of the big one. Yeah that's kind of the big one then third schedule. They have houston on the schedule. They've got you know Also on their schedule the detroit. Lions are on their schedule. If you wanna talk about last year you've got the bengals twice. They've got the denver broncos these these are teams that they're playing because it's a third place schedule thou denver's on the schedule because they play the afc west but this is Interestingly enough you know. They've got the patriots on the schedule. Because the patriots came with our third-placed. Here tell you man at kansas city home for houston at chicago and then minnesota's not a bad way to start. We've seen some much tougher first months of schedule. But i bring all that up because you know who would you. Mention is one of the best receiving tandems in the league. Now that julio is with aj brown and aj green is with the andrei hopkins and were saying that together. Because we're assuming larry fitzgerald is in coming back and you got decay and tyler lockett. Are we missing anybody in this league. Justin jefferson adam. Phelan i just you know you can if odell comes back and wide receiver but kelsey in tyreek hill. That was when i was about. You can't mention pass catches you want opened things up to a tight end then that changes things big time right. Don't sleep on. The browns is my way of getting to that through. Who's the best wide receiver tandem in the league. You do the brown schedule. Is that what you're kinda get none. No we could save that okay. 'cause i wanna talk about the news before. Nate burleson joins us. Don't sleep on robert. Woods and cooper kupp with staffer. The how about this too is as part of your news. Update which part the fact that the rams you know sean. Mcvay essentially when out said the reason why. I'm so happy that you know. Because he's sitting next to stafford he's like i'm so much happier this this time of year. And whatever jared goff well yesterday what is it. We had isaac bruce on the air yesterday and i asked him about. How does he think. Stafford is gonna do here in los angeles. He called it a breath of fresh air. I went to rams practice yesterday. They had an open practice for season ticket. Holders over thirty thousand people were there at the new stadium so fi stadium here in inglewood it was. That was my first time. there it is. It is on believable state of the art. It's hands down the best stadium. Maybe in the world. I is it not like looking into vr goggles. If you're in or anything like that or any any virtual reality goggles it just like this oculus the jumbotron that they've got going on unbelievable the sound the field. The the turf looks greener. I know everything just looks brighter in there and then matt stafford takes the field and the points goes nuts. Not no. I know or is in excitement. Level about the rams that has not been here to cough.
"adam phelan" Discussed on Nickel Package
"Featuring lenny. The only nfl podcasts. One of the hosts tighten up. Is what happens when you lunch and you on your collar. That's lenny. I'm unicom's i am joined today by my good friend so such a good friend. Actually that he joined me over weekend to do this. Because i am going on vacation and also because some actual big crazy. Nfl news happened this weekend. Bill barnwell our long national nightmares of actually. I can't really keep using long national. I feel like the taxing was actually a national nightmare. Julio thing only lasted like really two weeks. This is a nightmare in the city of atlanta Well we stayed the hawk swan. So they've got that going out and going for them it was they almost blew it at the end versus the sixers and i honestly was about text charles macdonald just mental health check but yet so the provoke inside of this. I've already talked about a lot. Just kind of you know some of my puzzle like just i guess being a little bit confused by some of the decisions may with respect to the time line terms of restructuring. Mad rafting kyle pits. This is about kind of what has been expected for. A while. In terms of the return i think if the falcons a gotten a first round pick back falcons fans would feel a lot more well up better about it but they didn't they got a twenty twenty two second round draft pick in a twenty twenty three fourth-rounder they're sending a two thousand twenty three six founder to the tennessee. Titans so bill. I wanna talk to you. More about the tennessee side of it Because this is a massive division potentially playoff changing trade. do you like it for tennessee. Who i think will k with it again. I think i. I think it's fine. Like i understand why they did it. I think it's an okay decision. But it's not the sort of slam dunk. I think some people are making it out to be right now. Let me it's not. It's not the entree hopkins trade where it was like. Oh not only. Do we get a superstar. Receiver we get rid of this awful contract. We train a second round pick. That was like an obvious over the top victory for arizona even if it didn't fix their team necessarily tendency so here's let me try and make a couple arguments and you tell me whether they changed the way you feel about. I don't know i mean are you. Where do you start on the still. Actually before i get into it. I think that it makes a lot of sense for tennessee. Given their time line given the the do want to win now given that they're in a bad division given that they had a massive gaping hole at wide receiver. that said. i don't think it changes the landscape of the afc. I i'm i agree. I mean i think. That's basically where i come in but i don't know i think they should have made a move but i don't know that a move for a expensive veteran wide receiver as good as Translates these incredible. I have some questions about the way. They're building their team here. Because i always think about the people who leave the patriots right like about how guys like bill. O'brien and john robinson here who is the gm of the tennessee. Titans who's done a good job overall about how they build their roster and think about what. This offense is now in terms of how much they're spending at the very top. They ryan tannehill for next year on a thirty four million dollar cap Derrick henry at fifteen million teller the one their left tackle fourteen point. seven million. Roger sampled their starting guard at twelve point. Nine million now. Julio jones coming in at eleven and a half million right now but flee know something about julio jones he is someone who is pretty frequently with two or three years after his deal agitating for a new contract and if he plays well this year i would expect him to get some sort of new deal from tennessee and a pretty significant race probably his last major contract in the nfl and then on top of that you have aj. Who's going to make one point. Eight million on paper for next year but is gonna come due for an extension and you gotta figure that's going to come in around twenty twenty one million dollars per year. I mean that's ninety million before you even get into any new deals for jones or brown. Maybe you cut sappho. That's not out of the question. But like they're going to spend probably something around one hundred million dollars of their catholics about half of the cap on six five maybe offensive guys like that's not. How teams typically win in the nfl. It's typically how like teammate. The patriots have one in the nfl. This is not really how bill belichick has built his team's doesn't mean it's right or wrong but i think that sort of is the first thing that to me is just raises some questions about what the plan released here so i screwed this up because we should have done the football side of at first and had like been very fun talked about just what it incredible assortment of talent. This is on the side of the football and then the buzzkill cap stuff after. But i actually think there's sort of intertwined bill because you mentioned derrick henry. That's a contract that the titans can move on from Part of the reason. Why yeah. I didn't object too much to it when they did sign it and i also think there's a that sort of ties to the football side because you look at this titans offense which is one of the run heavy offense if not. I think maybe just behind baltimore in book do. Yeah okay so you look at that and you say well why would you trade for an elite wide receiver. If you're going to run the football. And i you know. I think that's an assumption like we are making the notion not only that derrick henry will be on the football team for several more years. I guess would be two more after this season in the idea that this is still going to be a very run. Centric offense that's based on the offense. Set the titans were and we know that they've got any offense coordinator and todd doubting because ardor smith which you know. I've said i view as it's not a good thing for tennessee because how good are there. Smith was but i think the in many ways. It's easy to envision. Julio jones slotting into this like play action heavy offense and taking advantage of those wide gaping holes in the middle of the field and the deep ball that ryan tannehill has been very efficient at throwing I also think that there's a reason to believe that if you have a jeep brand new have julio jones offense is going to evolve a little bit yeah absolutely fair and they did lose. China spent this year as well. So it's not as if you figure they're going to come out and run more twelve personnel than they did last year. They're going to evolve a bit on offense. That's totally fair. I think they have to. Because i think if you don't you're basically the stefan adam phelan kirk cousins. Dalvin cook where you have a team that you know wants to run the ball..
"adam phelan" Discussed on The Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast
"Keep him metcalf. I mean nobody would blame you for keeping someone that could no lamey. I'm gonna go dj. Mac we lied so much for that. 'cause you're the only one that could have done that. Oh my goodness. And then i'll la trade the walrus. Let's let's look at here five wideouts. Okay now that's not the same thing as saying these are wide receiver. Fives all right. This is alluding to the ultimate draft kit and our draft rankings and breaking them down by tears and these three players all fit in the fifth tier at the wide receiver position. So adam thielen adam. Minnesota robert woods with the rams and dj more with carolina Very close in our consensus rankings. Obviously to be in the same tier robert woods consistent top seventeen wide receiver three straight years. Matthew stafford and company adam feeling. We've talked a lot about on the show. But big touchdown totals last year and then. Dj more women more touchdowns from him. But he's a player and sam darnold. So i go ahead you. I was gonna say i'll let my first 'cause i've been i hopped in i on these last two and i don't want to have the new guy come in and steal the show. Okay so sam darnold. At least his first couple of years in the league was sustaining a touchdown percent percentage over four until adam gates completely broke him last year and it dropped down to two and a half two and a half percent got so bad. I feel like andy could do that. Yes two and a half percent thank thanks garrett two and a half fella yeah. My sister percents elect my milk. That's right two and a half those two percents that would made jokes in on it but like two and a half is not is not a mill is just close to a milk point five percent cultured cream which rises to the here. You go so adam. Phelan i am. I am very concerned. I m concerned the just what the age it feels like. Maybe the the cliff is coming for adam feeling. Even though he caught a whole bunch of touchdowns you saw nine games with four or fewer receptions last year that is not. That's not the volume. I need from someone who's supposed to be a possession wide receiver and robber woods very very safe. But man i i guess i would i would take. I'm going to keep dj more. I'm going to go one more time with it. I know it all. The arguments are last year's arguments. But you still had eight games of more than ninety yards like dj more. I had him on my team. And you and i played him basically every single week throughout that stretch and while the fantasy finish you can look at them in his finishes were not necessarily great like the always outside the top. Twenty four forty percent bus straight. Yeah yeah but it never. It never felt like dj killing my team so you didn't start him for forty percent of the say. Here's the tough thing for me. I do. I believe carolina's gonna throw the ball to dan arnold ton that's all dan arnold does they signed him to come in and play pass catching titan. I believe that christian. Mccaffrey just wants to kiss rocks. That's right there's a world where dj more like dj more. If i had to put the odds on. He's the third leading receiver on the team. In terms of receptions saying behind mccaffrey and behind raffray and robby anderson in total volume. And that's not a reality or a possibility for robert woods or for adam feeling so if i'm looking at through that lens i'm just gonna keep robert woods i'm gonna keep that option there I'm gonna trade deal the mike or i'll trade deal in a way and cut cut more young. I'm i'm with you on the keep andy. I'm keeping co great to keep proper woods here. here's the shiny. It does to me. Because i know he's always going out produce this values not shiny. But we're talking about five wideouts right so presumably. I've already gotten away. Eight hundred to on my roster. I've got the high upside guys which are usually sometimes more volatile because they've got the de paul ability Robert woods is a stabilizing force in my wide. Receiver to spa. I love that. And then when i compare them thelander. Dj more. and i'm like who would. I rather draft now. Adam thiel and has done it. He has proven he is far more Reliable historically than the dj more disappointments. But when i look at twenty twenty one and i say what could happen and what are the probabilities of what will happen. Can adam feeling breakout do better than last year. I just don't. I don't see that happening. I think it's touchdowns are gonna come down also within the realm of possibility that this is the year the wheels fall off. He's going to be thirty one years old. I don't think that happens. But it's at least something i consider when i look at his age with. Dj more if he sucks. He sucks the way he sucked last year. Which is wider twenty. Two so. I don't think he's going to get worse than that. He had no touchdowns but then his range of possibilities is a break. So i would keep robert woods then. Dj more would be second so he'd be my trade and then sadly i'm cutting adam feeling who is still a player that i think will have a solid season not hooked thelander anymore. Not hooked on phelan. It's more of a.
"adam phelan" Discussed on Fantasy Football Today Podcast
"So how about kirk cousins. Last nine games of the season. He was three and he threw thirty six times per game. And it's not like their defense got any worse in the first seven games. They gave up thirty point six points per game. They went to and five in their last nine games. They gave up twenty-nine points per game and they went five and four but he threw the ball nine more times per game in that stretch any faced easier competition. I'd say as well especially when you look at like the offense. They played but yeah they let kirk cousins throw and their results. Were a lot better so jamie. How do you feel about cousins. Will heathrow enough to be a start guy. Basically because that's what he was last nine last. Seven games of the season or last. Nine games rather. Qb three in my opinion. There are a quarterback that i think everybody's going to be fighting for in your fantasy drugs. You can say. There's maybe ten. If you want to throw in justin herbert and joe burrow or replace joe burrow with jalen hurts you stealing her with ryan tannehill whatever the case may be i think cousins in that group nine through fifteen for me he thirteen. I do think that there's a fourteen depending on takes him hill. And who's the starter for the saints. He's got a lot to love. You love the two receivers. Obviously justin jefferson adam phelan. I think you're gonna end up losing herb smith. You're gonna love the running back and what he does out of the backfield. You're gonna love the fact that he's been successful. Despite the lack of respect that he gets as a fantasy quarterback included hasn't nfl quarterback. And you're gonna love this price tag. Price tag is going to be bottom of the barrel. One of the last picks. You can make me last quarterbacks you can take so i i think cousins is fine. This is going to be a much better defense than it was a year ago because the personnel will be better. Just getting danielle hunter back as long as he stays adding other pass rusher. Which i'm sure they'll do in the draft the secondary getting better. It's gonna change. How mike zimmer operates. But i think there's just enough around him enough of what he's shown you in minnesota that you don't have to cut it kirk cousins you can settle for kirk cousins and you can win with her cousins. He's they gave up the fourth most points in the nfl..
"adam phelan" Discussed on Fantasy Football Today Podcast
"Hundred catches one thousand five hundred thirty one yards seven touchdowns on one hundred and fifty six targets and then after the injury he was still on pace for one hundred and sixty five targets and one hundred and ten catches but the yards went way down. The catch rate. Went way down and college wasn't as good but you're still talking about a guy who Finished with a ton of catches. And you'll maybe a harness. Honestly like i feel like he. You could take them in the first round in a pr league. And i. i think it'd be five hundred fifteen catches. It's insane but only six touchdowns but anyway the splits were pretty interesting. Just the pacy was on before kayla. Marie got hurt. Dave you're talking about one hundred and fifteen catches and over fifteen hundred yards the one that i sure the one note that i got was that before this cuyler injury remember. The injury happened really early on in that second game against seattle and that is the last seven games of the season. Keiler is averaging eight point. One six intended air yards per game after that game. Seven point four and some of those last seven games cuyler looked like his old self. He looked okay but others did look tentative and then run much. You could that something was bothering him. And i think that definitely took its toll on on hopkins numbers but just start. Receiver did a great job. Going to arizona should continue to be very very good for fantasy. And i think you can view them as a really great second round. Pick and fancy. I don't think you should think of him. Someone that you gotta get in around one taking calcium ahead of him. That's that's easier army. Almost almost real mas- okay. I don't love any of the running backs at are left adams and hiller gone chelsea's already gone. There's no chance. I'm taking a quarterback. There's a safe pick on taking deandre hopkins okay and then finally last wide receiver note that caught. My eye was adam. Phelan had twice as many touchdown catches as justin jefferson at jefferson. Jefferson crushed him in yards. Jefferson had I think the third most yards in the nfl but feeling was among the nfl leaders in red zone targets green zone targets and fourteen catches to only seven for justin jefferson. Does that matter to you. Do you think that's kinda fluky and it'll even itself out next season. I think it's a huge thing very similar to dj more thirteen of those fourteen touchdowns for adam feeling. We're in the red zone. Ten of the fourteen were inside. The ten is that the green zone. Adam yeah inside the ten yard line. Seven of the fourteen touchdowns were inside the five so he was taking scores away. Theoretically from dalvin cook at that point. Justin jefferson only had eight targets inside the ten zone so feeling.
Buffalo Bills acquire Diggs from Vikings for 4 picks
"Radio back to the NFL some big moves Monday as the talking began Tom Brady hasn't made a decision although some of the decisions may be impacting him meanwhile we know Amari Cooper will be staying with Dallas end the bills reportedly acquiring Stefon Diggs of the Vikings for four draft picks earlier on ESPN radio on Freddie inferred Simmons giving up a first fifth sixth for a guy who has been a massive headache in your locker room for the last two years and and during a you know a playoff game wild card game against the saints when I got but ends up winning the game right exactly Kirk cousins goes to Kyle Rudolph instead of digs no no I'm not some of the game winning touchdown time out at third or those of third down conversion and and they converted and digs goes off the field and throws his helmet into the bench do it you got a first down you about winning the game were just by yourself oh wait yeah we we we we know what you're about so I don't get giving up that much to get him outside from the public but from a kid a skill standpoint I do get it I knew they would take that better back to back thousand yard seasons I mean he is a remarkable talent my problem with Gallic Biggs is in the room because when he's not being targeted he's a pain in the rear end I wonder how much of this is the findings wanted out of Minnesota so badly that he was going to act like that now I'm not trying to explain it not condoning it all in but I wonder how much a whatever led to him wanting a break wanting a divorce in the Minnesota Vikings whatever that was it could be Adam Phelan and his emergence or you want to play a Kirk cousins wait a problem Mike Zimmer whatever it was the findings have enough for Minnesota and he did everything possible verbally invent action wise to make sure that they were not going to keep him even early today when Kirk cousins got his extension the findings was not have a leader was not even Catholic high thought he said I guess it's time to get out here tell me about the Minnesota he was determined to get out of whatever led to the break I don't know what it was but he got his wish now the findings you got what you want to handle it because if you don't people gonna say you had a good thing going to Minnesota where they were building my United Phelan and that wasn't good enough for you buffalo reportedly sending four picks to Minnesota a first a fifth or sixth in twenty twenty and a fourth rounder in twenty twenty one while also getting a seventh rounder back this spring from the Vikings Diggs is in the second year of a five year seventy two million
Dr. David Chao talks injuries
"Dr Child always good to have you aboard for the show. Thanks for having me. So when we look at some of the injuries that kind of flakes of the skill position talents We had a big one again in Tampa and it seems to be history repeating itself last week we talked about Mike Evans. His hamstring hamstring the season ending scenario. That played out there. Lo and behold Chris Godwin goes down with what looked like a similar injury last. We saw him carted off in the tunnel in Detroit. Coincidence there is there something going on in Tampa as it pertains to their wideouts in their hamstrings as we get into the tail end of the season they run them ragged and they throw the ball lot. That's probably the only Only Lincoln Yeah and if you really WANNA go conspiracy theory Mike Evans last week. You Scott Miller Another wide receiver earlier in the game in Chris Godwin in early in the season Perriman had a hamstring issue. So if you really trying to go that way but I think it's just coincidence and maybe some of it is They're still slinging the ball around quite a bit Four hundred fifty yards for James Winston This week so so they were running a lot of routes and so forth as we talked about Mike Evans Hamstring with significant and with only three games left. We thought you and I are candidate. I think the same something's GonNa fall for for Chris Godwin here. You know there's only two weeks left there the bucks out of it The hamstring is probably going to be longer than that and he's probably headed into reserve so What does that mean I mean? Had you know from a fantasy site look for paramount. Because Winston's going to have to you. Who else is left? That's a blow. Be still my heart God. What has been the Horse Dr John? That's gotten me in the fantasy. Football finals beat up on her. Dear friend Clay Travis this past past week and in a massive showdown GonNa help that somebody else on my rosters able to step up and fill that void pain savior jokes. Because I know you're gonNA take cheap shots I'm not at all I'm not at all actually gonNA transition to another wide receiver with Adam Phelan. There was talks that he wasn't going to return until he was one hundred percent. Healthy Limited. Snap count this past against the chargers. What do you think that was maybe score or Israel setback therefore Adam feeling well? I think it's a original part of the plan in preparation. Maybe the seven snaps were only because of because of the score but he was never gonNA play fifty Think about it this way first of all if you look Ah. The history of what happened with Phelan was supposed to be a minor hamstring. You played it. Two weeks aggravated missed. Many more weeks. Try to come back to fast in in Practice aggravated again. So they've been burned twice with aggravation. Do you think they were GonNa be burned a third time when next week. They have the Monday night game against against the packers which is for the division and then even the week seventeen game against the division rival bears. This were the LA chargers not that you look past with them. But I don't care who it was only made medical sense to bring him back a little more slowly this type give them a few game raps so that he can and be good to go for the packers. I think you'll see. EEOC normal reps against the packers next week but there was no way he's going to see normal routes this week and so even when Schefter after said he was going to play and be fine. I never thought he would. But you know we all know coachspeak right. It's just another example of coachspeak another guy that's critical to the Vikings offensive successes. Delvin Cook suffered another shoulder. Injury couldn't return against the chargers. Obviously you mentioned the importance of the Monday night. Game against the packers will Delvin Cook play and if so how effective can you be. Well here's a good news. Bad News Bad news is he got hurt again and you didn't finish the game the bad news. It's actually a new injury and that's also the good news it's a new injury if it were the SC join again the right Septa. You'd have to say. Even when he plays against the packers he's one hit one play from being out against. This seems to be something to his left shoulder by video. I can't tell you exactly what it is. There's which sometimes good news because if he dislocated I could tell you. I don't think that's the case. I can't tell you exactly what he has. But it's new to the left shoulder and I think there is okay. Good chance I would expect that he will play and be good to go against the packers And I think that's part of where they said Look L.. Let us live to fight another day Dalvin and rest the rest of the game here in terms of feeling like they have a game in hand out in Los Angeles makes percents with a capable fill in like Mike. Boone had two touchdowns he actually had the second highest sparks score among running backs in two thousand eighteen draft only behind saquon so hard running running in athletic last Vikings Guy One ask you about. That's crucial to the defense's cornerback. Xavier Rhodes went into the chargers game with an ankle. Injury already played through it left left with what appeared to be a calf injury. Does he have a shot to play against Green Bay it's GonNa be hard Calf injuries linger CT Way Hilton. And uh-huh this even though he was GonNa want to at the quarterback position. It's pretty hard to break in driving the ball. If you don't have your staff there then you add the lingering ankle. I mean when you talk about multiple injuries and one of them being calf especially the positioning place as optimistic as I am on Dow Cook able to go. I'm not pessimistic and league's exist your roads being able to go last one. I want to ask you about beforehand it back to todd. The timeline probably doesn't work if it's a high ankle sprain but The seasons on the Line Right Philadelphia Dallas does lane. Johnson have a chance to play this week. I think he does first of all learning clean. Johnson Yasser Heikal Spring He might get some pre-game quote acupuncture to play area. I mean it's it's that big give a game and the other thing is he. You know Yes he's a tackle so he's a little more in space and I can guard. But but certainly it's easier to for a Lineman Wiedeman an offensive lineman to play through high ankle than some other skill position. So I think he's GonNa try everything you can to go. The question is If he can royal factor if you will be I think you're GONNA try all hands on deck type game coming up Sunday for the division and I know a lot of our board listeners Dr Chow who have been writing this Eagles Eagles train with the division future since the beginning of the season. So we'll all sit with wait and wait with bated breath as they go into that one against maybe resurgent cowboys team is short home underdogs but but before we get there. We do have a Monday night. Football game and clearly. The biggest injury around this contest is with. Ty held a lot of optimism through colts camp but you look through some of the lingering signs for T. Y.. Hilton this calf injury. Do you expect him to be able to give it a go tonight. And if if even tries how effective do you believe. He can be out there as a viable deep throat against the Saints Defense. Well you know. There's there's there's two two thoughts here the he will play thought and he won't play thought if you go by what the head coach says and very fulmer to him. Even Situation Frank Reich is if he plays on Monday. We'll be at one hundred percent. I E not playing short of a hundred percent. Well if that is actually true. He's not playing period. There's no way that cafeteria one hundred percent is lingered this long another couple of days. He's been full practice all all week and other days isn't GonNa Change Anything. There's no way he's hundred hundred percent for tonight's game. So we're going to stick to what Frank Reich really sad. Ty He's already told US T Y Hilton's not playing but we all know coachspeak and we all know this is. The colts is kind of last chance. They kind of have to win to stay in it to have any chance to stay in it so That may push what t y Hilton does and you may try. Try and go always interesting to see these guys and who's able to gut it out. As it becomes a war of attrition at this point in the season especially with playoff berths hanging in the balance team saw hang on for dear life in their respective conferences. You can follow Dr David Show on twitter at pro football doc like we say every week the single best source for injury information not only for your sports gambling but for those fantasy football ball championships. That are coming up. He's got a great podcast. Delve sometimes a little bit deeper into a lot of the injury information. Dr Chow. Can't thank you enough for your time. Although I'm going to have to cry before we continue the rest of this podcast with pain now. Knowing Chris Godden won't be available for me to go out there and win a title sort of your that gets into. Thanks as always Dr
Vikings' Stefon Diggs Addresses Trade Rumors Ahead of Giants Match-Up
"Have a an epidemic in the NFL Stefan digs now is letting it be known that because times are getting tough in the modern fell times get tough trade me. Get me out of here. I'm not happy be I don't need to play out to my contract. I will be sick. I will go home and then I will try to force your hand to trade me. He came back to the team. After missing a practice yesterday digs eggs and this isn't a season in which we know everything has gone badly right now going badly right now for Minnesota's offense very small sample size by the way but he is not getting targeted targeted the way he did lassie's not even close Stefan digs and on the same week that Adam Phelan called out the offense and the quarterback leading kirk cousins weirdly publicly apologizing to Adam feeling the other wide receiver then lets it be known that he wants Outta town so Minnesota has a lot of issues right now and it's kind of an interesting time for them to go face a giants team that despite back to back wins known is GonNa Confuse this defense with the eighty six giants Minnesota if they just figure out some type of game plan and finds a balance of their offense you would think they should be able to move the ball and if they don't and Danny dimes James and I don't think say quantum Barclays playing but apparently he is he is possible they says not practicing as of Thursday but apparently he's such a superman that it's he's getting close but even without Saquon Barkley at the Vikings find a way to to win this game and if they look bad doing it we might have a mutiny on our hands with the old Viking
Dexter Lawrence Among 3 Clemson Players with Failed Drug Tests for Ostarine
"You have big games for Kirk cousins. And and guys like that. But ultimately the goal for every game is to win the game going out win the game. The bears won the game fourteen two nine some people say not an impressive game. You know, what they want the game in the NFL is not easy to win yesterday half. The teams lost the bears were not one of those teams. They won the game fourteen two nine Seattle went to Levi's stadium last week and played the Niners. Guess what Seattle lost? So you know winning is the ultimate goal. And that's what the bears have been able to do bears defense. Of course is a team is is the biggest part of this team. They got another interception yesterday as daddy to Raith and picked off a pass late in the game. Which was obviously. Big. No they needed to do that. I was really interested to see how they were gonna play without Eddie Jackson and they'll probably play without Eddie Jackson. Again this coming week. I think this coming week without any Jackson. Going up against the Minnesota Vikings team that needs the win to guarantee themselves a playoff spot. This is going to be a test for Dionne Bush at Adrian Amos ammos actually had a really good game. I was looking to some of the numbers earlier and let me see here. He's not running this one. I have I had so much stuff on the game where Adrian ammos actually had a pretty decent game. Would I grab his tackle numbers for the contest? And that was good to see because Adrian, ammos, he was second on the team in tackles. Roquan Smith had nine tackles Adrian animals had eight. So he stepped up his game without Eddie Jackson being their trevathan was seven Khalil Mack had five. You only had one sack that was the roquan Smith when he came wide open. So very very important stuff. How the bears are going to play defensively playing against the Niners without very good receivers. And when the young quarterback is one thing playing defense with Kirk cousins and Adam Phelan and Stefan digs and Kyle Rudolph. That's a whole other story playing in their building. So that's gonna be real interesting to see how the bears are able to play and defend this Minnesota Vikings team three one two three three two three seven seven six. Let's get back to some baseball talk to old town Georgia on ESPN thousand eight George. It looks like betting that they're trying to force. The dodgers handle that extra clearance on the payroll, which is I think, you know. Was the master. And I think a fallback of Pollock would be fantastic. If he stays help you what do you think? Yeah. Stephen Pollock healthy is a huge huge situation. You know, if in fact, you got him you could that actually move guy like Albert, Al more. If you're going to cause I still think they're gonna have to move one of those three guys I've been saying that all off season and it hasn't happened yet. So maybe I'm wrong. But I kind of thought they would move either. Now, Mora Ishwar or a half the more. I look at it. It's not going to be Schwarzer. They love Schwarzer. He's like one of their kids one of their little kids their own kids as well. I think it would be either Hapoel more if they did grab a guy. Like Pollock that'd be a completely different story. But you you think the the Harper situation, you don't think there's any changes coming here. Do you? I really think he's he's kind of an LA kinda dude. If you know what I mean? With the hair. Coast to coast. I mean seems like the perfect fit out there. But why not force the hand if we can and try to call back. He get stronger on our end. George. Appreciate the call. The one thing that I think the cubs have gone forms aproach the season first of all they won ninety five games last year. Okay. It's not like they you know, they had an awful season. They didn't hit in the last month earlier. It didn't hit in down the stretch, and they need to figure out why. And it's so it was so much fun. Watching the ball, very rarely say this.