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Labor Secretary Acosta Resigns

WSJ What's News

11:08 min | 1 year ago

Labor Secretary Acosta Resigns

"The University of Alabama School of law online choose between an L L M and tax or business transactions for lawyers or jurists master in taxation for non-lawyers connecting learn with live lectures details Obama by distance dot U._S._A._A.. Dot E._D._U. Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta is stepping down following criticism of his handling of a case involving Jeffrey Epstein more than a decade ago. We thought Democrats say that they were going to invite him to testify about his handling of the Epstein case and Republicans while they didn't quite call for his resignation had certainly expressed some concerns about his handling of the case and said it was something that they felt like needed to be looked looked into further Acosta steps down in a week and will be succeeded by the deputy secretary of Labor. This is what's news from the Wall Street Journal. I'm Anne Marie for totally in New York before we talk about Secretary Costa's resignation here or some other top stories we're following the House has approved a bill to shore up the September Eleventh Victims Compensation Fund to cover all current and future medical claims from survivors through the year twenty ninety. The measure passed in a vote of four hundred to twelve offend will now go to a final vote in the Senate which Republican leaders have said we'll happen before August in the past the fund had been renewed every five years medical experts now say the death toll from nine eleven related illnesses will soon surpass the number of deaths resulting from the attacks themselves treasury secretary. Steven Mnuchin is urging Congress to raise the nation's debt ceiling before their August recess saying the government could run out of cash in early September earlier this week an estimate released. Released by the bipartisan Policy Center found the government could hit that date in the first half of September due to weaker than expected Revenue Collection House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told reporters earlier this week that she hoped lawmakers would reach an agreement to raise the debt ceiling before or lawmakers leave for August break on July twenty sixth Turkey has begun receiving new air defense missile system from Russia. The U._S. has warned that Turkey could face sanctions for deploying the s four hundred system who shipment cost two point five billion dollars a NATO official says the alliance is quote concerned about the potential consequences of Turkey's decision. Turkey's prime minister has said the shipment of the system is a sovereign decision and Robert Muller's appearance before the House Judiciary Committee has reportedly been delayed by a week the Wall Street Journal reports that committee chairman at jerrold Nadler has been seeking a longer session to question Muller Muller had said his report following the investigation into Russian interference in the two thousand sixteen election is his testimony anheuser-busch Inbev is abandoning plans for an initial public offering of its Asian business. The nearly ten billion dollar Hong Kong I._P._O.. Would have been the largest of the year the company which excels brands including Budweiser and corona says it's now calling the I._P._O.. Off due to prevailing market conditions which it says it will continue to monitor the University of Alabama School of law online choose between an L L M and tax or business transactions for lawyers or jurists master in taxation for non-lawyers connect and learn with live lectures details at Bama by distance dot U._S._A._A.. Dot E._D._U.. U._S. Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta is resigning from his post after facing criticism for his handling of a case involving billionaire Jeffrey Epstein over a decade ago when Acosta was a U._S.. Attorney in Miami Florida Epstein was charged this week by prosecutors in New York with two counts related to sex trafficking of minors joining me now from Washington with more details is Wall Street Journal reporter Rebecca Ball House Rebecca Acosta had staunchly defended defended his handling of the two thousand seven case involving Epstein where Epstein agreed to a plea deal Acosta even answered additional questions during a press conference on Wednesday but it seems critics weren't satisfied with his answers how much pressure been mounting on on a cost <hes> in these subsequent days well as you said he he spent a long time defending himself on Wednesday held a press conference for more than an hour and what we had heard shortly after the press conference was that the White House was an especially the president were largely satisfied with how he had done in that press conference that they felt like he hit defended himself forcefully enough that they were happy on the hill. However it was a little bit of a different story I mean not on Wednesday I think before he spoke we saw Democrats Democrats say that they were going to invite him to testify about his handling of the Epstein case and Republicans while they didn't quite call for his resignation had certainly expressed some concerns about his handling of the case and said it was something that they felt like needed to be looked into into further so I think faced with the prospect of having to go to the hill having to address further questions about this in addition to the fact that there was some response to his press conference that he had not totally accurately represented? has ended his handling of the case back in two thousand seven and two thousand eight seems like he decided he didn't want to keep having to answer questions about this. What other details have we learned that have been brought up about the Epstein case this week week well as you said federal prosecutors in New York charged him this week with two counts related to sex trafficking of minors but there were also a lot of pretty gory details that emerged from that case this week for instance agents searched his Manhattan townhouse after after he was arrested on Saturday and found hundreds of nude photographs of young women some of whom seem to be under age <hes> they also found I believe last CDs that were labeled with <hes> women's names and possibly the names of other people the tapes so just a lot of really you know sort of gross details like that came out this week that revealed the extent of what appears to be or at least the alleged sexual assaults by Epstein on minors and I think it really just was a reminder of what we had previously learned a lot of which came from the Miami Herald but also from reports at the time that a cost seems to have been involved in arranging a plea agreement with Epstein that resulted in him going to jail all for just a little over a year and it wasn't even fully wasn't state prison? It was a wing of the Palm County jail where he was allowed to leave for up to twelve hours a day six days a week and go to his law office downtown. That was something that emerged in the Miami Herald investigation so I think all those details combined with with what we learned about what federal agents found in his house this week just sort of really put the pressure on cost to finally answer some questions about this. And when we heard from Kosta and president trump speaking to reporters on Friday morning accommodating knowledge that this was becoming a distraction and we also heard president trump express his support for a cost to yes. The president said he's not not happy to see a cost to go but understood why he wanted to do this again praised his press conference performance said he's been a really terrific labor secretary and Dacosta just for his part said that he felt like it wasn't fair to the administration to you have to keep talking about this Epstein case when they should be talking about the economy and the president also said that this was fully cost as decision that that cost had called him this morning said that he wanted to resign and the president invited him to come <hes> address reporters with him so we're not getting any signals right now that this was something that he was pressured to do and what does this mean for the U._S.. Labor Department there had been some struggles between Acosta and other White House officials over policy and the pace of the departments work right so that's been the interesting dynamic to watch here is that totally separate from the Epstein issue. The White House has been really frustrated with the cost for a while now over what they view as his overly slow pace of deregulation at the Labor Department Department and in particular Mick Mulvaney the acting White House chief of staff has been frustrated with what he believes is too slow of a pace and so we've seen that <hes> complained also come from a lot in the business industry who feel like he's not not doing enough and not doing fast enough. A cost says that you know this way of doing things doing meticulously is going to help what he does stand up better to court challenges in the future and make them harder to repeal in future administrations. But on but nonetheless this has been a source of tension between the White House and the Labor Department and the person who's going to be taking over for a cost his deputy secretary a someone who is seeing at least in the business community is someone who might be a little bit more of an aggressive deregulator so that's going to be a dynamic to watch going forward as if this is someone who's GonNa satisfy with the White House is looking for a little bit better and that would be deputy secretary of Labor Patrick Pillow. That's right. Thank you so much. Rebecca thank you and now an update on the grounding of Boeing seven thirty-seven Max jets the planes were grounded in March following two fatal crashes our a reporter Robert Wall says the grounding has created huge disruptions across the aviation industry. Take Southwest Airlines the biggest buyer of Max planes for now. The airline has struck the model from flight schedules through October first the budget airline had received thirty one max planes at the time the fleet was grounded more were due for delivery over the summer in response southwest has had to cancel flights and Juggle Schedules United American and Air Canada are among other North American carriers to be hit American has also had to cancel more than one hundred flights per day because of a Max Grounding Air Canada has rented planes from others including Lufthansa and Qatar Airways to make up for the shortage of seats with Max idled old and Iceland air has now struck plane from its scheduled through October while says Boeing supply chain has also been hit hard by the grounding and Boeing is facing delays in fixing the seven thirty seven maxes flight control system which has been implicated aided in the crashes Boeing. Now says it won't submit its Max fixed to the F._A.. Until September the F._A._A.. And other regulators have not said when they in turn may clear the plane to resume carrying passengers until that happens Boeing.

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Pay It Forward Friday: Lorena Acosta

Hacking Your Leadership

02:11 min | 9 months ago

Pay It Forward Friday: Lorena Acosta

"Hey everyone and welcome to another pay. It forward Friday episode where we highlight people that we feel are doing a great job of publishing leadership content that resonates with us we will include links to their work intact attack them on our post to make sure they know we appreciate them. This is our way to say thanks to other leaders and individuals that are having a positive impact on helping others become better leaders do sharing sharing their thoughts opinions and ideas online for all to see and hear. Chris and I have always wanted to use our platform to advocate for other people passionate about leadership and give our listeners listeners as much content as possible to help sharpen their own skills through different perspectives and approaches. If you would like us to check out any one specific please tag them in the comments or send us a message with links to their content on this episode. I WANNA recognize Lorraina. Acosta host of the be busy being awesome podcast brand strategy consultant senior sales executive and Lincoln local host for Orlando as you can tell by her intro. Lorraina does not in stays busy. Bean awesome I came across lorraine arenas content because a mutual connection had commented in shared something that Lorraine ahead posted. What I really appreciate about the rain content is our authenticity. She is Israel and shares. Not just her opinion but her personal passions and feelings as well while the rain has spent a lot of time talking about personal brand. There's so much. Overlap Lapworth leadership and how leaders show up. Chris and I constantly talk about people being able to show up as the best version of themselves and I think sometimes leaders get caught up in not being themselves differently than they do. When they're at home they say things they don't believe because they think it's the right thing to say they avoided many mistakes and taking responsibility for interactions gone. Bad and one of the arena's posts she asks. Are you authentic enough. Are you relatable enough. Are you expert enough as the leader of people. You should be asking yourself the same questions and building strategies to improve on the opportunities that you may find as a result of your answers so please click the link in the the episode notes to learn more about Lorraina and see her lincoln posts. Great Job Lorena and thanks for helping others to Hashtag be a better leader. Thanks for listening and let us know who else deserves some Kudos.

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Introducing: A Perfect Storm

The Lady Vanishes

01:05 min | 1 year ago

Introducing: A Perfect Storm

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Oscar Zeta Acosta

GONE

44:12 min | 8 months ago

Oscar Zeta Acosta

"At six thirty PM on May Fifteenth Nine Thousand Nine hundred seventy four. Fourteen year old marco. A Costa was reading a Rolling Stone magazine in his mother's San Francisco home. They just finished eating dinner and his mother had gone out to walk the dog. That's when the phone rang Marco side and answered it his father Oscar. A Costa was on the other end of line. Marco really knew exactly where his dad was. Or what trouble. He might be in in fact he never really knew what to expect when he heard his father's voice like when his dad told him. I'm MAS- Land. Marco had been there with his father before it was a resort town along the western coast of Mexico. But it wasn't entirely clear to Marco what Costa was doing there. They made small talk for several minutes. Marco promised to study hard and keep his grades above a B. Average Costa assured his son that he would behave and returned stateside soon then. A Costa hurried his son off the line. I have to go. I'm boarding a boat full of white snow. Marco rolled his eyes. He knew what that meant. His father's appetite for cocaine and other drugs was legendary. Marco replied I hope you know what you're doing? A Costa assured him that he'd be fine. Marco worried about his father just as he always had in the past but there was nothing he could do helpless. Marco told his father he loved him. Hung up the phone and return to his magazine. That was the last time Marco spoke to his father because after that night no one saw or heard from Oscar Costa ever again. Welcome to gone a podcast original. I'm Ali and I'm Richard. Every other Monday we examined mysterious disappearances and the theories they spawned from the Amber Room to Michael Rockefeller Picasso paintings to the language the roanoke colony to the lost Russian cosmonauts. If it's gone we're looking for it. You can find all episodes of gone. And all other podcasts originals. For Free on spotify over ever. You LISTEN TO PODCASTS. To Stream gone for free on spotify. Just open the APP and type gone in the search bar at podcast. We're grateful for you our listeners. You allow us do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram? At podcast and twitter at PODCAST NETWORK. Today were exploring. The disappearance of Oscar Zeta Acosta. He was a fiery lawyer and an important figure in the Chicano civil rights movement during the nineteen sixties but after a long battle with drug addiction. A Costa mysteriously vanished during a trip to Mexico in nineteen seventy four Oscar. A Costa wore many hats throughout his lifetime in addition to being a father and a civil rights attorney he served in the US military and worked as a preacher and a missionary a Costa also struggled with drug addiction. For most of his life he was both inspiring and infuriating making as many friends as enemies. He was the author of two semi autobiographical novels in the early nineteen seventies through those pieces he helped to invent what has been called guns. Oh journalism a style of reporting that incorporates. The writer as part of the story along his journey of self discovery. He became friends with prolific writer. Hunter S Thompson in fact a Costa inspired the character of Dr Gonzo in Thompson's bestselling book fear and loathing in Las Vegas as well as the title of a panic at the disco album. But in May nineteen seventy four. A Costa took a trip south of the border once there he spoke briefly to his son. Marco before disappearing without a trace. There are a few theories about what happened to a Costa in the wake of his disappearance. The first asserts that a Costa overdosed or had a drug induced heart attack. His substance habit was well known amongst his family and friends during that final phone call. He hinted that he'd been using cocaine. According to this a- Costa may have died in Mexico his body buried before it could be identified. Our second solution suggests that a Costa was killed in a drug deal gone. Bad a coast didn't just use drugs. He dealt them when he was hard up for cash. Some believe that a transaction went south and a Costa died in a shootout with Mexican drug lords our third and final theory hints towards a larger conspiracy that the United States government tractor Costa down and killed him. It's well known that a Costa had become troublesome to the feds because of his revolutionary efforts. It's possible that the American government did away with him during that fateful trip to Mexico though he died in Mexico. Oscar Acosta's parents always wanted him to be American. They were working class. Chicano immigrants who raised Oscar in California's San Joaquin Valley a coastas. Parents wanted to leave their identities as Mexicans behind them. They believed that this was the only way for their children to get ahead by starting fresh as Americans when Oscar was born in nineteen thirty five he had birthright US citizenship and according to a Costa Sister Anita their parents insisted that their children dress speak and act like white people to fit in with their California Community Anita frustratingly recalled. My mother wanted us to be white. That was her main goal in life. At first Oscar didn't understand why he had to pretend to be someone he wasn't. He was confused and angry. But at the same time Costa saw the way. Many chicanos were treated by mainstream white society when he was just eight years old. The zoot suit. Riots broke out in Los Angeles papers reported the news of White sailors attacking and beating young. Well dressed chicanos. Particularly those who wore trendy. Zoot suits the alleged motivation for the attacks. Was that the fashionable clothes. Which used a lot of fabric were unpatriotic during wartime rationing? But the racial overtones of the attacks were impossible to miss nevertheless coastas father. Manuel continued to instill patriotism in his son. Accustomed patiently listened to the stories of men wells time in the US Navy during World War. Two Manuel wanted to raise a Costa to an American fighter. And the boy was happy to oblige a Costa recalled. He wanted me to compete more than anything else. When I was five. He encouraged me to argue and fight with him. I guess that's where I became as nasty as I am. But a Costa didn't confine his brawls to the house in Nineteen forty-six he and several other. Chicano boys were playing on the streets of their small town riverbank. But something on the pavement caught a Costa Zai a leaflet with an American flag on the front instead of picking up the pamphlet. Costa made a scene of spitting on the Flyer. His friends were outraged. But a Costa didn't care. An argument broke out and escalated to an ugly fight. A Costa was outnumbered and ended up losing to the other boys but the incident only fueled his fire more Costa temper worsened as he grew older key regularly found himself at odds with other kids not to mention. He was built heavier than his peers. Which only added to his identity issues? He would later write. I was obese. Ugliest a pig and without any redeeming qualities whatsoever. He felt like a failure and believed he was incapable of being the Macho Man. His father wanted him to be but over time his desire to fit in outweighed his anger as a Chicano he felt inferior to the wealthy white people in his community and he even began to see the logic of his parents. Beliefs about assimilation. So teenage Costa gave in. He began to play the role his parents wanted for him. He played sports and even became president of his class at the same time. He found a creative outlet in writing. A Costa. Port is bottled up emotions onto the page. But it didn't solve all of his problems to deal with as difficult emotions fifteen-year-old Acoustic began drinking in high school. He developed a reputation. As a partier and boozer and by the time he graduated he suffered from chronic stomach ulcers resulting from his alcohol abuse. This pain would trouble him for the rest of his life. Costa had every intention of going to college but life got in the way when he finished high school in the early fifties. He was dating a white girl named Alice. He was head over heels about her and the two had discussed marriage. He truly believed she was the love of his life. But Alice's parents disliked chicanos especially Oscar. They were outraged that their daughter was dating someone with Brown skin not to mention Alice's baptist. Family hated the fact. That Oscar was a Catholic. Oscar was playing a losing game. Alice's parents forced her to break it off with Oscar leading to a terrible argument between the two so bad in fact that the police were called to the scene and officers had to haul a still screaming. Costa away to add insult to injury. Alice went on to marry someone else later that year. A Costa was crushed. He fell into a pit of depression which caused him to lose interest in his studies. He began thinking he wanted to do something bigger and better with his life in one thousand nine hundred fifty two. He followed in his father's footsteps and enlisted in the Air Force. He was stationed at Hamilton. Air Force Base which meant relocating to San Francisco in an unfamiliar city and still healing from his breakout with Alice. A Costa turned to prayer during their relationship he'd been irresistibly drawn to the Baptist faith and that draw didn't lesson after their split he decided to convert and became a practicing Baptist in San Francisco most chicanos including his family. We're Catholic at this time. Catholicism was a religion of outsiders new immigrants from south and Central America Ireland and Italy were Catholic mayflower families were Protestant so converting to a Protestant denomination was another way for Costa to assimilate as with many other interests in his life. He poured himself into his new found. Faith he believed this was his calling his reason for existing he poured over the Bible and even began preaching in his church then when he was transferred to Panama with the Air Force. He ministered to the local population as well as to his military comrades. He set up a church in a nearby leper colony and taught the Bible to them as well. A Costa found that he was an extremely charismatic speaker and had a gift for persuasion. Big Brash people naturally looked up to him as a leader in fact he believed he could convince people of just about anything but as he neared the end of his time in the air force in nineteen fifty six. He was plagued by doubts that were often accompanied. With long nights of drinking and worse he'd begun to abuse harder drugs. Stimulants psychedelics and amphetamines. Well under the influence. He nursed doubts about the stories he'd been so passionately preaching. For four years he delved into his Bible especially the gospels after some thought a Costa ultimately had to face a shocking reality. He didn't believe any of it was true to his mind. Religion was an unreliable mash up of contradictory accounts and confusing the allergy. His faith fell apart and a Costa was left. Crushed despondent an aimless. He thought he'd found his purpose and it had been ripped from beneath his feet. What would he do with his life now? The only things he could really depend on where the alcohol and drugs he used to numb the pain soon. A Costa hit rock bottom after being discharged from the service and returning home. He attempted suicide. His family was shocked and heartbroken. They insisted Costa Check himself into a psychiatric facility to get the help he so desperately needed thanks to their urging a Costa started to turn around although he didn't get clean his drug use wasn't controlling his life anymore soon. A new romance developed a sign that his life was back on track in Nineteen fifty-six a Costa met and married a woman named Betty Dowd. Their love helped restore his will to live and he began taking classes at the local junior college and San Francisco state in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine. They had their first and only child. A boy named Marco after earning his undergraduate degree a Costa took night classes at San Francisco Law School. He hoped to use his charisma and gift for persuasion to help a new 'cause he wanted to defend marginalized Chicanos as a Baptist preacher and Missionary. He'd been on the right track but he'd been preaching the wrong message to the wrong people for all the wrong reasons now. He was on a new path. During law school. A Costa began to send some of his best poetry short stories and novels out to publishers. Though none were accepted it was during this time that he first adopted the pen name Zeta Letters E in Spanish of Costa was inspired by the fictional spanish-american freedom fighter known Azzaro. He saw himself in the character. A kind of urban Chicano robinhood he also began to use the pseudonym the Brown buffalo not unlike his fellow Chicanos. The Buffalo had also been hunted by Americans since the nineteenth century with activist fervor quickly spreading in California. In the late sixties. His timing was perfect. A Costa graduated from law school in Nineteen Sixty five and now the brown buffalo was ready to charge headfirst into the fight for Chicano civil rights but his desire to help others was in constant conflict with his personal demons. Drugs and alcohol plagued him in the years to come. These dueling qualities would inevitably lead to a coastas debt. Coming up will explore Oscar a coast as journey from civil rights attorney to novelist. Then dig into the mystery of his disappearance. Hey they're gone listeners. I have some great news for you. Gone is now a weekly show but only on spotify. If you don't listen on spotify you'll continue to get brand new episodes every other Monday but if you listen on spotify on those off. Monday's you'll now get a mini. Episode will investigate items that disappeared for centuries but were then recovered and historical inventions. That were recorded but never created. But you'll only hear these mini episodes on spotify. Follow gone free on spotify and enjoy a new episode every Monday. Now back to the story. Following his discharge from the Air Force Oscar Zeta a Costa got married had a child and started attending San Francisco State University. After graduating. He went to law school earning his degree at age thirty in nineteen sixty five by then his increasing dependence on drugs and alcohol. Let him in his wife Betty to divorce. But even this wasn't enough for him to give up drinking. It gave him false courage which he applied to his ongoing Chicano rights activism by the time he finished law school he come to view himself through the Lens of Folk Heroes Like Zorro and Robin Hood. He wanted to work on behalf of his fellow. Chicanos in their fight for civil rights he passed the state bar exam in June nineteen sixty six and began working with the East Oakland Legal Aid Society serving low income clients. He desperately wanted to help others but he found that it was emotionally hard work and his heart wasn't always in the game. His law career began to feel like a rerun of his time as a preacher. He feared he would flake out and give up again as he began questioning his purpose. His fear of failure resurfaced. He thought he'd found what he was looking for. Only to run into another dead end on his journey to self discovery rather than face these issues head on a Costa ran away from his problems in the summer of nineteen sixty seven. He quit his job in Oakland. Abandoned his child and left town with nothing more than a suitcase. He spent the next year trying to find himself. He traveled to Idaho and Colorado. He waited tables and worked odd jobs to make ends meet eventually. He found his way back home to El Paso. Texas the city of his birth their Costa began to reconnect with his Mexican identity for the first time in his adult life. He was surrounded by Mexican Americans who were just like him and shared many of his cultural experiences. He felt a renewed sense of his calling. He was ready to help his fellow. Chicanos like Moses in the Bible. He wanted to lead them to a new destiny. This mission became even more apparent when he was arrested in January nineteen sixty eight drunken bar fight in Juarez. Mexico put a Costa in jail for several days. Unfortunately the Mexican judge didn't believe a Costa was a lawyer or an American citizen and when he finally was released a Costa had trouble getting back over the border into the US. The guard simply believe he a Mexican not a US citizen at all this experience. Crystallized his lifelong sense of how he and his fellow. Chicanos didn't belong anywhere he later wrote. What is clear to me after this? Sojourn is that. I am neither a Mexican nor an American. I am neither a Catholic nor Protestant IMF Chicano by ancestry and a brown buffalo by choice by early nineteen sixty eight. A Costa was ready to return to California and reestablish his legal practice his brother Bob told him he should go to East Los Angeles and join up with the Chicano civil rights movement which was gaining serious traction. A Costa learned that leaders of the movement were focusing on the inequality in public education between whites and Chicanos. They were planning a student walkout in protest of East. La High schools are coastal later explained. The bomb exploded in my head. I saw it all before me. This was exactly what the Gods had in store for me in the summer of nineteen sixty eight thirty three year old. Oscar Costa moved into a hotel in east. La So he could be closer to the action he even had business cards printed that Red Buffalo Z. Brown Chicano lawyer here in the Hispanic neighborhoods of east. La a Costa saw what? He called a broken city. Filled with battered. Losers buildings were in disrepair streets and sidewalks were filthy and covered with litter. Homeless people were everywhere. It solidified his image of Chicanos as a group in need of destiny. They were treated like insects living on the street and being crushed under the heel of mainstream white society a Costa wanted to show them a new way forward. He befriended many leaders of the local Chicano civil rights movement. His services were desperately needed and he quickly built up a list of clients among the first. Were the so-called eastside thirteen. Who led the school walkouts during that protest in March? Nineteen Sixty eight nearly twenty thousand students and faculty from seven East. La Schools had participated but ellie mayors. Sam Yorkie declared that. These walkouts were a communist plot. He ordered that the leaders be arrested. They were indicted in June and each faced up to sixty six years in prison. Protests against their arrests spread across the city like wildfire. It was front page. News throughout California of Costa was amongst the team of lawyers who successfully defended them in court. Thanks to his work. The charges against the group were eventually dropped. A Costa was now a hero. Within the movement the walkout and the publicity it received sparked a major civil rights crusade in Los Angeles and Costa was right in the middle of it. His role in the campaign gave him a taste of what it was like to do something that actually made a difference but deep down something was missing. In the years that followed he continued to defend high profile clients and make a reputation for himself as a sought after civil rights attorney. But it didn't seem like enough once again. He had a desire to do something more he wrote. Once in every century there comes a man who was chosen to speak for his people. Who's to say that I am not such a man working in local activist? Movements wasn't enough. He needed to reach as many people as possible through literature. In the summer of Nineteen seventy-one. He closed down his law practice and move back to the San Francisco area. He intended to devote himself fully to writing a novel and likely used drugs and drinking to fuel his creativity. His First Book Autobiography of Brown Buffalo came out in Nineteen seventy-two his next the revolt the cockroach people was published the following year both tags were semi autobiographical novels depicting his life and efforts. Working on behalf of Chicanos. They were well received and established a Costa as a significant literary voice within the movement he began staging readings of his work and soon became a sought after public speaker. But as was becoming a pattern accustomed success only triggered new lows in January nineteen seventy four. He began to have trouble with his ulcers which he'd suffered from since he was a team. This was a particularly bad episode. He was forced to check himself into a medical facility in San Francisco for more than a week. While he was there he wrote was fourteen year old son. Marko though a Costa was long divorced from Marco's mother he tried to keep in touch with his son as much as possible in the letter he told Marco that he was planning to go to Mexico to work on his next book. He said he originally intended to go to Mexico City but plans had changed. He didn't explain why he was going to visit Mazatlan instead. He hinted that he'd be making a lot of money while he was there but he didn't say exactly how as he promised in January. Nineteen seventy four Oscar. A Costa left for Mexico. Marco spoke to him sometime in the spring of that year a Costa was in Mazatlan by then and he repeated what he'd said in his letter a few months earlier that he was hoping to make a lot of money. His last contact with his family came on May fifteenth in a final call to Marco. He told his son that he was about to board a boat full of white snow. Maybe that meant he was planning to party on a boat. More likely it was a reference to cocaine. It's unclear exactly what he meant by this cryptic remark but his son never heard from him again to ask about it and neither did anyone else when he hadn't come home by the fall of nineteen seventy four. Oscar coast is families. Started to get worried. They conducted a desperate search enlisting the coastguard and the FBI they even sought help from the Salvation Army. Some family members traveled to Mazatlan to see if they could uncover any clues. But every avenue came up empty Costa had disappeared vanished and no one had any idea where he was over the years. A number of ideas have been put forth to explain what happened to Oscar. Costa some have been simple. Say the boat. He boarded was caught in a storm and sank others have been more outlandish suggesting he had a drug induced nervous breakdown and then developed a severe case of Amnesia but there are three theories that get more traction than most the first is that Oscar. A Costa fatally overdosed on drugs. It's possible Costa was simply a victim of his own excess. While partying in Mexico the overindulged and it led to his ultimate demise. A custom was known to abuse drugs. Like cocaine amphetamines and LSD. He had a very long history with illicit substances. He'd started drinking as a teenager and by the timing was in the military. He was smoking pot in the early nineteen sixties. He left home for long periods of time claiming he was searching for himself while avoiding the responsibilities of family life. His drug use worsened during this time. But a Costa didn't see it that way. He believed it was opening his mind helping him to visualize path to greatness more clearly. He later wrote PSYCHEDELIC. Drugs have been important to the development of my consciousness. They've put me into a level of awareness where I can see myself and see what I'm really doing. Most of my big ideas and a lot of my creativity have sprung from the use of these drugs. Well visiting Colorado in nineteen sixty seven a Costa met writer Hunter S Thompson Thompson was a struggling journalist. Who had a drug habit to rival Costa zone the to hit it off and began frequent? Lsd TRIPS and cocaine binges later. They teamed up to write an article about the plight of Chicanos in east. La during the collaboration they made a drug fueled trip from Colorado to Las Vegas. That inspired Thomson's book fear and loathing in Las Vegas. The book became an instant bestseller and was later adapted into a nineteen ninety eight film directed by Terry Gilliam. And that wasn't the least of it during his time as a lawyer a Costa had his personal assistance carry his drugs for him in case he was ever searched he frequently smoked cigars and kept a supply of LSD tabs in an unlabeled aspirin bottle. His drug use didn't ease up in the nineteen seventies. He was also overweight from a young age and had been hospitalized for ulcers just a few months before his death the idea that he might have overdosed or suffered drug related. Heart attack is not difficult to believe. The only problem is that coastas body was nowhere to be found for an autopsy. Surely there were people in Mazatlan who knew him and could have identified him yet in the months after his disappearance is family could find no trace of him or any John DOE cases that matched his description which means a simple overdose was unlikely. It's possible however that when he died the people. He was with disposed of his body fearing they'd get caught up in an investigation and charged with illegal drug use themselves especially if they were doing more than just using drugs. Our second theory deals with that angle more directly suggesting that a Costa was working a lot more than just writing a novel during his time in Mexico perhaps Costa was involved in drug trafficking. He may even have gotten mixed up in some of the most dangerous cartels to ever come out of Mexico. Coming up will explore the idea that Oscar Costa was murdered by a cartel. Now back to the story in the summer of Nineteen seventy four thirty nine year old activist writer and lawyer. Oscar Zeta a Costa disappeared. We explored the hypothesis that a Costa died of drug overdose and his body was never identified but our second theory is that instead of an overdose. Accustomed was the victim of a drug deal. Gone bad a Costa may have gotten into trouble with the drug lords. He was working with in Mexico. Mazatlan is in the state of Sina. Loa which would later lend its name to the scene. Loa cartel in the nineteen eighties but even in the early seventies seen lower was infamous for high crime and narcotics trafficking. It's possible a Costa was trying to work out a deal with his cartel contacts when his famous temper got the best of him. A Costa may have said the wrong thing which inevitably cost him. His life although accosted didn't have much history of drug dealing there are witnesses who suggest he took it up late in life family. Friend Irwin segel stated that in nineteen seventy three. When he and Oscar went to Mazatlan he learned a Costa was connected to drug lords from Mexicali and more Alia we also that Costa had travelled south of the border several times to write an immerse himself in his ancestral culture. He even expressed a desire to stop speaking English entirely but he was no longer. Earning money from legal work and his books in public appearances only brought him minimal income. This led his loved ones to believe that is trips to Mexico. Weren't just about writing or escaping from White America. Instead he was trafficking the drugs that were such an important part of his life deeply cynical about the US legal system. He apparently felt no moral qualms about his involvement in the trade more importantly it was quick and easy money so a Costa may have gotten into trouble with the local cartel and his difficult personality. Cost him his life. After all his quick temperament he was also quick to make enemies and he didn't back down no matter how powerful his adversaries were this. Same Temper- leads us to our final theory. A Costa's death was an assassination. A Costa was known as a troublemaker and rabble rouser. He was a political leftist in a time. When fears of communism were still widespread law enforcement routinely kept tabs on him and would even show up at his door looking for him. In addition to offering legal services to fellow Chicanos. In the late sixties a Costa had become one of the leaders in the fight for equal rights. He marched with protesters and gave speeches at rallies. He successfully argued that Los Angeles County had systematically discriminated against people with Spanish last names in an effort to keep them off grand juries in nineteen sixty nine he defended a group called the biltmore six. These were Chicano activists with the Brown berets. A group that organized protests and fought to bring attention to Chicano Civil Rights on April twenty fourth of that year. The group protested speech by California Governor Ronald Reagan at the Biltmore Hotel in Los Angeles. Several fires were set during the protests. The biltmore six were accused of arson but Costa argued that the fires had actually been started by an undercover police officer who had framed the group. His arguments worked in court and the defendants were acquitted but blaming an undercover cop hadn't won him any friends in law enforcement and as a Costa gained more experience working on the front lines. His perspectives became even more radical in nineteen seventy. He embarked on a controversial campaign for Sheriff of Los Angeles County. He didn't expect to win but he hoped his candidacy would bring attention to that you. Connor rights movement. His primary stands was intentionally provocative he planned to disband the sheriff's department and rebuild it from the ground up. He stated the police are the violent arm of the rich. And I want to get rid of them. Though he ultimately lost the race he came in second among four candidates and his campaign highlighted the abuses of the sheriff's department but this made him an even bigger target if law enforcement hadn't liked him before his political campaign. They hated him now. It didn't take long before they found a reason to arrest him. Accustomed was caught with drugs. In an undercover sting in Hollywood and arrested in June nineteen seventy-one though he was only fined for the infraction. It played a significant role in his decision to leave. La and embark on a full time writing career. A Costa was also known to support the Chicano ideology of the nation of ASTA. Lan Asta Lan was the traditional name. For the homeland of the ancient Aztecs. Chicano idealist advocated for secession from the United States to form. A Nation of Chicanos. Ruled by Chicanos. At the end of his book autobiography of a Brown Buffalo. A Costa spoke of this dream ending with a sort of call to arms. He wrote when I have one million Brown Buffalo's on my side. I will present the demands for a new nation to both the US government and the United Nations the FBI had opened a file on acoustic in nineteen seventy when he ran for sheriff informants within the Chicano Movement had passed on information about a coastas whereabouts and actions but the file was closed in December nineteen seventy-three not long before coastas disappearance. Could that have been because they decided to silence him? Once and for all federal agents may have killed a Costa and then disposed of his body by doing so they got rid of a nuisance who according to his F. B. I. File had been involved in civil disturbances and anti-american Demonstrations. He was a potential revolutionary. And he needed to be silenced. A Costa sister. Anita advocated this theory. She stated they used to come knocking at my door. When Oscar was living with me they wanted to get rid of him they wanted him to disappear so did Oscar. A coastas dream of new nation. Cost him his life. Well it's interesting that the FBI closed its file on a Costa just before his death. It probably wasn't because they decided to assassinate him. It was because he was no longer believed to be involved in revolutionary activities. That's understandable since he quit his high profile legal career two years earlier. Furthermore a Costa doesn't seem to have been threatening enough to justify a political hit while he was one of the prominent faces of the movement. There were others. Who outshined him in both notoriety and controversy? Why were they permitted to live when a Costa had to be killed instead? We think it's most likely that. Costa died in a drug related disagreement. A family friend confirmed that he was involved with traffickers and his family had plenty of reason to believe it his comment to Marco about a boat full of white snow may very well have been referring to a shipment of cocaine bound for the border town of Mexicali a coastas temper and brash personality where well-known trademarks he was combative and fearless and his drug use enhanced his sense of his own importance. It's not difficult to imagine him. Saying the wrong thing to the wrong person and paying for it with his life the drug dealers who killed him would have had plenty of motive and the means to hide a customer's body. Even Marco Costa believes that this is how his father died. He said the people he was involved with. We think he ended up mouthing off getting into a fight and getting killed. While Oscar Zeta Acosta's body may never be found. His life's work lives on he furthered the fight for Chicano rights and his brash style brought much needed attention to their fight for equality coastas two published. Novels are still in print and become an integral part of Chicano literary history in fact they're often required reading in Latino studies glasses in one. Thousand nine hundred. Seventy seven obituary in rolling Stone Hunter S. Thompson wrote Oscar was one of God's own prototypes. High-powered mutant of some kind was never even considered for mass production. He was too weird to live and too rare to die instead. 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Ep. 7 | More Acosta Idiocy & Here Comes the 28th Amendment?

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Ep. 7 | More Acosta Idiocy & Here Comes the 28th Amendment?

"Hey, I'm Sarah Gonzales, welcome to the news. And why it matters Glenn? What was the top story? Oh, the CNN trip to the border. Okay. Man. I can't wait to get into that still the twenty eighth amendment to the US constitution. Okay. All right. Andro Richard Dawkins and Jordan Peterson our ally. Ing behind a matter. We'll talk about that. Right. Can't wait got a lot to get into before. We do that one and talk to you about how I used to be fat. So talk about me. I'm still. Radio's on is what can help you Glenn because they take the molecule the good molecule and olive oil boost your metabolism and helps you feel full longer, and they put it in this little capsule, and you just gotta take it for your meals. And it's I call it. My magic pill have to actually order it. Right. Well, maybe the reason sat is because I am lazy. I've been working on this by slipping supplements into your water in the morning. I've been putting the wrong supplements myself. All right. 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But way worth it to invest in your health, redesign dot com. All right, Glenn CNN. Could we just roll Jim Acosta in the middle of the day in mcallen, Texas with his sunglasses on at the border fence, and what he discovered, and here's some of the steel slaps at the president's been talking about right here as you can see. Yes, you can't see through these lots to the other side of the US beco- border. But as we're walking along here, we're not seeing any kind of imminent danger. There are no migrants trying to rush toward this fence here in the mcallen, Texas area. Matter of fact, there's some other businesses behind me along this highway. There's a gas station Burger King and so on, but no sign of the national emergency that the president has been talking about as a matter of fact, it's pretty tranquil down here. Yeah. You know, where it's not in the San Diego area. This guy is crazy. First of all is this the worst system worst reporting ever versatile. I've just picked random space, and I'm going there. And by the way, the thing I'm against the wall is right here. So you could see through it. So it's more of a fence, which I might people are more for offense than a wall. But let me just show you it's completely effective. But instead I'm going to spin this as nobody's ear. There is no -mergency. Yes. Because the friggin wall is right there. Also, it might have something to do with your wearing sunglasses usually people are coming in the cover of darkness. Where was he when I went down to gallon Texas with our border patrol in the middle of the night. Do you remember do did you come with did not go with you? But I do we have danger to it. So you and I met and they still haven't gotten. You're right. Went down there. I watched the boats come over in the middle of the night. I watched the people come over in droves, mcallen, Texas is kind of a hot spot, but not in the middle of the day, not wear the border fences. Instead where there is no fence, Jim what a complete and utter dope. And everyone at CNN. Shame on you. Shame on would have stepped in earlier, but I will never stop Jim Acosta rats. Medico until it's over. I mean think about it ever. You're not a news guy. Right. No, news guy. Let's say you're in charge of CNN, and this dope comes on your screen. And you're watching it in the office, and your even your even against the border wall. Okay. You're against it. Let's say you're you're crazy against it. But you got a business to run you pick up the phone at Jim Acosta. Kutina, Mr. Heaton. Jim Acosta Jim Acosta's on the online to pick it up. And what do you say? I would say Jim we've got a hot story for you. It's logical fallacies. I, you know, I don't think that a across the border Boorda walls, a good use of funds. So I don't think this is a good that said though, the logical holes in it are much bigger than the current border wall. You know? And there's parts where it's mountainous. You're not gonna put a fence or a wall there, and there's like like again from from a from a safety issue if he were to focus on the math side of this. I'd I'd be with him on it where most of the drugs that are coming in. They're coming through legal ports. They're not coming from cross the border. Most of the forty percent of the people overstaying their visa, they're already here that said, though, if you pick a random spot of wall and go, look, it's peaceful. There's I don't know math that well, but it's like more than eighty feet like you could pick and choose wherever you want it to be into a cancer ward and gone. I've just I've just found this woman. She's cancer free. Every talking about cancer. She has cancer nurse team. I think Jim Acosta was aware of this controversy because his next report. Hold on. Yes. Layer before he posted after this happened. And he gets I'm getting beat up online. Everyone writing stories mocking him. I mean, he paid attention to. I think thing, oh, whatever. Jim Acosta's always paying attention to what people are saying about Jim Mukasa. That is the number one goal of Jim Mukasa every day. I'm going to I'm going to tonight. I have to post some Jim Acosta reports I'm going to do some Jim Acosta reports on Facebook. I can't take like that. But he he did his next report. He found the spot where the wall ends, and he stood there. And there's a small chain link fence that kind of connects like look, sometimes it's the steel steel slats, and sometimes it's this, and there's still no crazy things going on. Again. It is the middle of the day still that one yet, I guess soom tonight to new one. But I mean, it's it's just a it's just this is going on CNN all day, they had another person up in Vermont doing a report in which they showed the Canadian border and the Canadian border where there's been more terrorists that have come over. We talked about the terrorism problem in Canada many times, it's it is actually a real problem. And there's more people that come over from Canada that are there on the terrorist. Watch list come over from the. Mexican border, but still like the show the border, and and there's no word at all. Right. Like, they're standing there. And and they're discussing very snowy. So I think that might be part of the reason why you wanna cross 'cause like two degrees and six feet of snow. But there they go around and ask people. Do you wanna wall here? This is reporting in L seriousness like Jimmy doing. That's it's it's it's a lot. It's like a a softball pitch to the left, right? Like, look, this should be really really easy. You should be able to understand that Donald Trump is wrong. They're not asking honest questions at all Jim Acosta when I was at the border begging CNN to come down to the border when where were they I was saying when I was calling CNN and saying please cover this. They're keeping children in cages where where where they they weren't anywhere. And that's it's not honest. That's my biggest problem with it. You know in Vermont situation, they have one guy who says, oh, we don't need to everything's fine up here. We don't eat a border fence. And I don't think they need went down there. Either. And the next person is well, what do we don't need a border fence? I mean, but there's border security everywhere. Every time you cross the border a sensor goes off or something and they're all over your right away. Well, if we had border security like that across the entire border, we probably wouldn't eat offense. Either kept that part in. I know I know I think they thought it was making their point the issue. I have with it though is like those are not honest questions. Those are setups. They're trying to make here is the case made against the president lemme act as if the regular person on the street is making it. I mean, you I'm gonna fly to New Orleans. Tomorrow. I'm going to go down, and I'm gonna show, you know, people say New Orleans Zada control in bourbon street and other but hookers and bar fights. And and everything is open as chaos on the streets on Fridays. Right. I'm gonna go there tomorrow morning. I'll be there at nine AM. And I'm gonna walk down bourbons. Joe you there are no crowds. There. They're all. This is all lies. There's not a single drunk person at least in a large number of crowds. There's no problem. In fact, no stores are even open on bourbon street at nine AM. That's my story tomorrow quick. But if you were ever Tacoma, everybody's just standing around you could please wake up I'm gonna come in and play. Jim Acosta your face. Up out of it. All right. Well, we could go on about him across all day. I'd like for you to just not pull Jeffy. Oh, we're gonna move onto the twenty eighth amendment. The twenty of the constitution United States. Drinking more drinking like so they come with no vision, then they back on drink. Drink for women can drink women can't drink now. Glenn? Yes. It is nothing right now. But I think it should be right now, we only have twenty seven amendments to the the twenty eighth is I believe should have been proposed by Ted Cruz unless couple of days, and that is term limits. This comes up a lot. It's something that absolutely should be real in my opinion. And I think the time for it is right now can I make my case yet? Here we go first of all the border wall was a big controversy. This is gonna go on when this is over next thing term limits. Here's why here's the polling on building the wall in term limits as you might expect Democrats do not like building the wall, but they do like term limits. Fifteen percent say build the wall seventy six percents say term limits. Oh independence. Thirty one percent say build the wall, but eighty three percents say term limits again, this is one of the most popular things possible in our discourse. But you might say Trump wants to stick with his base. You might say, okay. He wants them. That's popular with his base, which I understand and building the wall, we see the Republican number on building the wall. It is very popular with his base. However term limits are. More popular with his base. Eighty nine percent of Republicans. Want term limits win have you ever seen polling on an issue like that seventy six eighty eighty two percent, exactly? No, you've got to look to like, I don't know voter ID. Yeah. That's even higher than voter, which is very good. You know, so quickly to finish. Your the good thing. Here is you also have Donald Trump who's Mr. drain the swamp guide. This is a tweet from him back in April. I recently had a terrific meeting with bipartisan group of freshmen lawmakers who feel very strongly in favor of congressional term limits. I gave him my full support and endorsement for the reference so Trump coming off of this border. No matter how it ends up. We're gonna be released super divided. Here's something that he can propose that he actually wants and promised during the campaign, that's incredibly popular. It's going to put all sorts of pressure on senators who were about to run for president that to vote for it and other people who are in in that it's going to be very difficult to say, no, they can get that vote to come up, and I will say the, you know, it's been tried many times they tried it in the nineties, and it got I think it need to two hundred ninety votes in the house two hundred twenty in the Senate twenty four votes needed a lot more than twenty four votes. However that was in two thousand twelve I think however, two thousand fourteen. The most recent effort where they really tried to push this through the person who did it happens to also be the Mick Mulvaney who is currently serving as chief of staff under Donald Trump like all this stuff is coming together. It's a really it's a sensible thing to do. It would be something really popular. It would be bipartisan in theory, certainly should be. And I think with Trump who just owns that new cycle. Like, he does if he came out here and really put effort and started talking about it. They would have no choice, but to get this thing to vote and vote way to take focus off of the border. The border fails. He he doesn't in him saying, okay? You know, why this didn't happen because it's a swamp term limits, and he could actually turn that around. That's a brilliant idea. Here's my problem with term limits. It's the an I hate this term. But it's the shadow government. It's the the dark what do they call them? Now is it call shadow government? I mean, you're saying the state it's the state the deep state seem so conspiratorial what the deep state in America is just everybody in the State Department. The people who are career State Department people they've been there forever. If you lose the institutional knowledge in congress, and in the Senate, how many of these weasels will just go to the State Department ago. I don't know what do you? What do you think? I mean, I mean that can happen. I think it happens ready. These people aren't even reading the frigging bills as it is be how much time do you need? We're talking about two decades. If you don't have enough knowledge of two in two decades, and you have to stay for another fifty years after that with that institutional knowledge. Trump Thurman almost got it. Yeah. Very close to being able to get it. But he left his. I think ten years in congress maximum cruise is two six year terms in the Senate. And I think it's three two year. Terms of the house. The there's been various things of this one of the things cruise is getting beat up on which is ridiculous. And but I think it's very smart, but crews is he's not counting. The anyone whatever you have now doesn't count. It's one of the things starts when you're gonna get past. They're not gonna limit their own power. But the little the are all they are also all grandmothers and grandfathers they could grandfather themselves in you know, they say, okay this apply. So the person after I die. Yeah. Supplies to the next person. Good anything. Right. Anything to do this. Because I think it is. I mean, look you see what these people do if they've been there all the time. We see that we've seen the results of this. And this is not supposed to be like this. You've talked about at one hundred times gone about how these guys didn't. They were. This is a part time job for them. They came in. They did some stuff they went back. They farm. They did their real jobs. That's host. Host the summertime. Yeah. That's why it's in Washington. It was a swamp. He didn't want. They thought nobody's gonna come here man all have malaria, and this is the one time. I'm kinda pulling for malaria. I think I'd be okay with an amendment that. If you are a congressman Senator chief of staff once you leave office, you cannot live or work in the district of Columbia or any Jason county just as or visit RBIs, you'd have to be very careful because like you could get around that. Right. Because everyone's always, I'm not a politician. I'm just a regular Joe just you know, I like fishing, and I'm no. And then when the soon as the turbines golfing in DC, and they live there forever de really you think that it had the chance to pass. I don't I I would say right now, it doesn't. But I think if Trump didn't what I was outlining their. Yeah. He would. He's telling my. Step in and go what about three billion for border wall? And we'll do this and then like like chatted into the border wall package because of that happened. I can see a whole equation changing. Yeah. I mean, I would love that. I think it's a great idea. I think Trump really got behind it. And I think what would might get in behind. It is the frustration of his porters. And that's would get the American people bind. It's not sense for all of us. Everyone here is it's a swamp. Whether you like me or not. It's a swamp. And let's let's this ridiculous. This is not supposed to be your entire ones. The good ones would be relieved. Like, Mike Lee would be like a thing. God I can finally taken everyone watching everyone tweets Donald Trump because we know he's paying attention to the tweets. Let him know about are awesome idea. And maybe he'll get wind of it back in a minute. So Ted Ted Cruz idea. Right. So. Right around the border wall. For we move on one of our sponsor relief factor. 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There's a lot of shouting to they're like the best one was there was a very lengthy paper on dog on dog sexual assault in dog parks. There was also a story called are. Are your struggle. Is my struggle. My struggle. And he he actually translated some of mine comp and put it in there. There are certain things like that. So he's been reprimanded by his university and the mechanism by which they're doing it is through internal review boards, and what they're saying is by virtue of doing this. You tested subjects without going through the proper protocol. Now, the reason we have internal review boards is if I wanna say like tests syphilis cures on people without talking to them, which we've done in the past or or withheld that kind of thing, right? We we've done some terrible. So the idea is you wanna keep any type of abuses going on with tests subjects through these intern review boards. But I think this is kind of overstepping it because he didn't have people in a basement or anything the subjects are the people that were publishing this particular of these various tracks, which I will reach mean, this is my I think if you were I think if you were the university, you're like look you set out to make all of your colleagues looked like morons Randy about that. It'd be like I kind of think they deserve a little bit. But I understand why why. Would get in trouble. If I were to like do a sting operation here at the blaze, imagine their reprimand. But there would be an honest and direct with handling it what they're doing. Instead is they're going out of the way to claim that this is kind of an ethical lapse through normal professorial testing this challenge. One thing you said if you did a sting here at the blaze, and there was something really wrong. I'd be the first one to say, thank you thing was going to be on you. I would not be the first. What you if your intent if you are a place of higher education and someone has revealed not your place, but the system is corrupt and and this will lead to better data and better conclusions. The universities should be holding him up and saying thank you not not trying to agree which which is part of the part of the whole enlightenment lineage that we've received intellectually idea that you're not supposed to just automatically defer to with already you're going to test things you're gonna test conclusions. I think this is the only thing I have with him is that I don't think I think the overplayed that thesis a little bit because most of their stuff wasn't actually published. So it wasn't a slam dunk. Well illustrated point we did we did talk to the book the head back. I the main guy from the college and one was the other one. Helen. O'clock or something. Yes. So a couple of people who are involved in that and their at least their story on that was that they were in process when these things early because I think the Wall Street Journal like the Wall Street Journal since something was amidst the dog sexual assault store. Yes. Someone else caught it real peer review or think put it out there and started highlighting these examples. And because they knew the whole thing was going to blow up they had to rush it and stop some of those did believe they were going to get about eighty percent of them actually published by the end. So I mean, again, I think that that's that's the like that the worst part about this. Maybe from the university's perspective is you're just proving his point the point is the system is corrupt and look at you manipulating this thing that's supposed to be good and internal review. And instead, you're using it to take out, you know, some sort of political vendetta, and you're proving his point again, I think higher education in many ways still kind of in the throes of a medieval system, and and we don't tend to think of it or view it that way. But there isn't fact that that inertia there and that that. Suffocating aspect to it. It's crazy is you know, what the professor Ariel robes. You probably know this do you know, what their four is might be like a clerical thing to do. It was cold. Wore those because of the big stone classrooms, and they wore those because they were warm. Can we get this here? I would. I know I would. Like putting Latin on on diplomas because it's like, hey moron. Here's this thing. That's got magic on it. And it shows that you're like the whole point of this is to explain stuff to you. So why are we going to use this system that very off the skates things? All right back into minute. Separates. It makes you class higher. I was just. Those of you who are not watching this yet on beliefs. Tv you're missing out on overtime. We do in overtime segment every day. And that's where the real fun happens. Well, none of us rowing pants. Right. I think better self say we putting extra clothes on. Okay. Yeah. We're putting parkas and we obscure bases except for Sarah. Got a TV right now. Use promo code news for ten dollars off. And for those of you who are already watching C in overtime. Up next enjoy bonus overtime content from the news in wide matters. Available exclusively for podcast listeners and blaze TV subscribers. Not a subscriber. Start your free trial at blaze, TV dot com. Stew. Let's talk about Jeff Bezos, and the impending divorce this is I just think interesting from we've never gone through this American people have never seen anything like this. This is the most expensive divorce in history. He is worth one hundred forty seven billion dollars richest man in the world. We did. We did a deal today on radio you heard it. So okay. So Andrew for Jeff Bezos to spend a million dollars just to like take. I'll take six of those Bugatti. Okay. Say it's million dollars h how much is that compared to somebody how much money does that feel like to him compared to somebody who has fifty thousand dollars? Guessing like nickel close thirty seven cents for thirty four and how much is it for a millionaire millionaire? It was six dollars and eighty s this makes me strongly dislike him on. How not eccentric? He is that much money doing all I would build an island. I was released thousands of monkeys. I would just. Yeah. Just every day time to get him zeppelin and dropped silver dollars. All sorts of. I would honestly that's what I like about. Alana's? I love that about ours. Branson? I love that. He just like, hey, you know, what let's go to the moon. He. Does a billionaire like fantasy league billion? He's like JAMES BOND villain level. Yeah. He's good. Yeah. It's interesting one hundred and forty seven billion dollars if they divorced. I mean, she's been winning for twenty five years. He was cheating on her with with a news person. Which is also the wife of one of the top agents in Hollywood. So it is really going to be pretty. But it is one hundred forty seven billion dollars. It looks like no they've been together way before Amazon. So it was no free NOP or anything like that. They will go from the richest person or people in the world to to tied at fifth richest behold there. Okay. Yeah. I know very difficult. It gets dip that rises from thirty cents for the Getty, sixty seven. Yes. It's just it's an amazing start because he's not been one of those guys that's been in the tablets, not a lot of Moscow. He's not being reported on like that. And this kind of just kind of came out of nowhere. Everyone kind of thought they had a perfect little relationship, and they have four kids. One of them was adopted, and I don't know how old they are a little older but still for Woody Allen that does not need to raise the bar somewhere else narrow down at all. Unfortunately. But it's a fascinating story because that is a I mean, we also don't know what it means for the business. I mean, if you're splitting up these businesses either in theory, like they could be splitting control of the business or she might get some of them. She might get the Washington Post and said of him we don't know how this is going to be split up yet. These some of these businesses are in our lives, Amazon every single day people kind of -ssume that he's gonna take the businesses and she's going to take a bunch of the cash, but she depends how she feels about the situation. She may very well be like, you know, what? No, I want the Washington Post to Washington if I were her the Washington Post, and I would have an anti Geoff editorial everyday everyday. Hired cartoonist do that. I was reading during lunch. I was reading something on machine learning and deep deep mind the deep learning too. Anyway, Amazon was one of the examples of of something that they've patented, and I didn't really understand it. But they patented in. I think two thousand twelve to take shopping to the next level and the speculation is they're just waiting for the right time. And what has to happen is their prediction? You know, how when you say you buy a book or you buy something Amazon. They say, hey, you might also like these things right now, we're buying between five and eight percent. They believe when they get a certain amount of information on each of us. They can bring that into the high eighties and ninety percent. So when you're buying something it'll come up and you'll be like, oh, yeah. I gotta have that too. So we ready. They will be the first company to reverse. Sh- shopping shopping and sales it will instead no shopping and shipping instead it will be shipping and shopping they will ship things to you. And you'll go all I want those. I want ninety percent of that. I'm going to send this back. That's what they're going for like free. The free samples to get you hooked on these things enough resembles now free sacks back. If you don't want them. Ship them to you because they will be able to count that they'll be able to know. By the time. You say, you know, what I really want? It's at your front door. So crazy they are doing the free sample. But I think that's the short term. Reasons why Alexa, is in your home. Gather more information on you on what you buy. What you need what you're talking about. So when you say, you know, what Honey reminding we should get Alexa will hear it ship it to you add that to the al-gharib them. Well, she's also super can Beant when I wanna listen to add Sheeran. Yeah. Yes. Rosen who hits who gets control of that? And he's always been a stable guy. He's a seemingly, you know. He's not Elon Musk with him cheating in with somebody else who's married high profile, if you if you own part of Amazon, I mean, a big part of Amazon you've got to be going, wait a minute. Hang on just a second. How involved she has been behind the scenes, I don't know much about her read and this is years ago. I read an article about the two of them that made it sound like they were real partners in everything that he really he didn't go until the kids wear off to school. You know, he was late at work, but he would stay late. He was a real family guy, and they were real partners. That's the way it was written as probably five years ago. I read I talked to somebody who who did some work with him a while ago and just described him as a nerd he's just a nerd, and it's like. Here's this nerd who got this woman to marry him twenty five years ago, they'd go through this whole thing. He becomes the richest man in the world. And he's like all right and the anchor over there. I mean, that's that's my thing. Now, it's if you're one of his friends, what do you do to get him through the divorce just trying to take him to? Jeff, you know, should do Malta. We see by the gods for everybody with me. Nice. All right. So the FDA because of the government shutdown. They have come out and said, you guys we've got a real problem because we have to sharply reduce inspections, and we can only inspect food at places that are high risk that have a lot of meats fishes and stuff coming through here. Andrew start panicking. We're all going to die. I read this this this is where my inner berry Goldwater in my inter- libertarian starts coming out and foaming because in the same article that I read about this. It said that. In america. This is a problem because there's fifty million people get food sickness here. Then what does the FDA doing? What why why is the scary to me if you're letting fifty million people already get sick? There's this weird mindset, we have where I think when you I think it starts when you're in high school where they're like will their student council. But if it's if it's serious, though, we're going to kick it to the principal. There is no principle. It's all student council. Everyone student council. I don't think anything is going to happen at of this in Canada is I understand it the system they have if you're part of the Canadian bureau crap me if I'm wrong in this. I think you kind of Bill into the system where you can either opt in or opt out and go in my town. Everybody knows me that trust me. I don't wanna bother going through all these hoops. That's an unnecessary onerous burden on me. But if you're like Toronto or something and us don't have that word of mouth like well. Of course, I'm going to plug into this. I'm going to put up that letter on my window. I think there's there's easy ways to do this. And I think the FDA and one more thing I'm sorry. One more thing. Kospi. They'll you'll see these reports that are like the FDA has just approved a drug that's going to save fifty thousand lives a year, and it only took eight years to improve this drug. Well, then all those other people died FDA, I in if you're if you're that guy there you're going to get you're not gonna get rewarded for passing something that saves lives. But you're gonna get a lot of trouble. If you pass something that kills somebody. So you're going to be incredibly restrictive and incredibly aggressive. So I think the FDA's boondoggle I share that sentiment, and I will just add really quickly talking about the trials that drug trials. So my uncle who passed away from ale s when he was going through treatment they were coming out with a drug that they had to get through all of these safety trials for patients to try it. And I'm like, they're they have a life sentence. They're going to die. There should be some system where if they want to sign up and say, I'm gonna die. Anyway, I'd rather just try the drug drug, right? One last thing on the FDA. I want to do you. Guess you don't have idea. I don't have the stats, but I will by tomorrow morning show, the stats of the percent of food that is actually examined the FDA is incre single digit percentage. Not even we'll give this is this is I think the most amazing stat about it. You are unlikely in your entire life to ever eat a piece of seafood that has even been visually. Inspected by anyone. Anyone in the FDA? That is not what happens. I think the FDA is everyone every time something these shutdowns come on like the FDA FDA. I think this is the ultimate example of how good capitalism is if people are incentivized not to kill their customers. And because of that, yes, fifty million sounds like a lot. But think about this for second. If everybody in the country has three meals a day, you're over a billion meals a day if fifty million people do get sick, it's an incredibly tiny percentage. And I got news free in America. It's a lot of times more than three meals a day around. So. Look at me when he's you can go through. I mean, I I don't know if that I've ever had a sickness from food. It's possible. I mean, some people have, but I mean, again, how many meals have you eaten the tiny tiny percentage of food. And none of it's being inspected by the FDA almost nothing you're eating every even being vision. What does a visual inspection seafood? Anyway, there's none of it is being inspected. And still you're fine. Every day that is a statement of capitalism has nothing to do with the FDA doing its job. It's a statement of how good capitalism isn't how well it works. So you're saying you're not buying into other scare tactic new. All right, really quickly want to get your thoughts on Kamala Harris. I know I heard you guys talking about this on radio, but she is apparently going to enter the presidential race around MLK day. She's going to announce. Chocolate run away with it think Kamala Harris is going to announce right around MLK day. No coincidence. There will be no race involved in this at all. I actually think she's a good contender. I think she somebody who could galvanize the the the laugh. You know, I think she could be one of the top three contenders. The president. But I know I totally agree. I mean, again, you never know in these situations when someone gets on a big stage. The Baltimore Ravens fans who watched Lamar Jackson to for twenty in the first half with zero yards. Basically, sometimes people who look really good in other smaller level games. Get into the big on the big stage. And don't look so good. But I think Kamala Harris is a legitimate a legitimate threat. She is the best of the Socialist Group. Right. Like, she's better than Bernie. She's better than Elizabeth Warren. I don't know if you put Beddoe in there. I feel like he's kind of in the middle of that group. I think is Kamala Harris the most is the most threatening to the president's. He is he's also a prosecutor, right? And that background leads her to be good at arguing things not flustered easily. She she seems to be good on television. She may get on the big stage in flop, I'm not she's she's not proven enough to to see that. Does she have because I don't feel like I know that much about her. I don't feel like she's as well formed of jabs a political ideology. Or at least in terms of the spouse political ideology, and a lot of the other people up there. I mean, like is she a part of the socialist, chronic? She's endorsed higher minimum wage and things like that. She came out Alexandria court has just recently made a comment about taxiing what the top earners something like seventy percent, and she Kamala Harris commented on that. And said that she thought that that was great idea, and she's really loved the new ideas Greek Kamala Harris getting econ economic policies from cozy. Yeah. I mean, if you look at it her her policies lineup basically with Sanders. I mean, they're very similar. There's there's a couple of minor differences. But she's definitely on that side of the spectrum. And that's how she's going to try to run. She's going to be spending the next year convincing America that she is on that side of the spectrum to try to win those activists voters, that's difficult. I did a poll sort of informal Twitter poll yesterday of just if you had to drop Twitter, the polls on Twitter scientific on Twitter. I'm not saying that's why. So it was informal. But I said, hey, if you had three draft picks to pick three candidates, you thought could actually become the next president, maybe defeat Donald Trump, if you pick three and in that group had to be your your winter would of the three that you'd pick and the three I picked were Biden Beddoe and Kamala Harris, I do think he'd be in there. I think he is he kind of feel like he walks the line in between a Biden and fresh face. Yeah. I think they do unless it's Biden who's the only one I think is out of this trip. You kinda neat. I don't think Sanders has a chance you need to have someone who's a fresh face. I think. I think in the end if you put Biden and Harris or Biden and Beto I think you've got a winning ticket. It's interesting. I really thought I was alone in my belief that Biden was a legitimate threat to Trump in that because he's a doofus. Right. That's Joe Biden. But I honestly think that helps him like he built in. He's a very likable guy. He's likable people. Don't carry makes he'll fire back. He'll fire back. Insults. He's that's his game. I mean, he's a little bit more of a challenge. I think than. I I would expect most most in our audience would think, however, they were they were I think almost everybody mentioned Biden as one of the top people Harris was mentioned a lot of bed. It was mentioned a lot of people mentioned also Michelle Obama, and I don't count her as really part of the field. I don't think she's going to run. It's possible. I think she knew better than if she ran she ran I think she beats probably Beddoe. And and Kamala Harris like I mean, be tough to beat Biden. She might she. But she'd be the left-wing candidate, and she'd have that same credibility, but also younger, and I she may be. I don't know arms. She's incredible arms. You've seen that. Yeah. I thought I was the only one known as told. All right. 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Acosta won't resign, defends secret 2008 plea deal which gave Epstein light sentence for sex crimes; Pelosi appeals for unity amid house democratic infighting

The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer

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Acosta won't resign, defends secret 2008 plea deal which gave Epstein light sentence for sex crimes; Pelosi appeals for unity amid house democratic infighting

"It's an edge of your seat. Thrill ride that will change overseas forever. The Movies Sundays Nine PM on C._N._N.. Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses visits any today at Xeni Dot dot com slash C._N._N.. Happening now breaking news defense of the deal Labor Secretary Alex Acosta defends the secret two thousand eight plea deal. He arranged the U._S. Attorney which gave multimillionaire Jeffrey Epstein Scheme and easy sentence for sex crimes president trump pushed him before the cameras but he still push them out the door Paul to resign speaker. Nancy Pelosi adds her powerful voice to those calling. I'm Alex Dacosta to resign adding that president. President trump should ask him to step down now. The Gaming Muller Haas Democrats are preparing for next week's testimony by former special counsel Robert Muller but while the hearings are seen as a possible maker break moment for impeachment advocates some Democrats Democrats are already taffy down expectations and ambassador quits Britain's ambassador to the United States resigns after leaked diplomatic cables showed he had called president trump insecure an incompetent triggering a series of insults from the president's. I'm Wolf Blitzer. You're in the situation room is C._N._N.. Breaking news breaking news embattled title Labor Secretary Alex Kosta public to defend the still shocking plea daily oversaw a U._S.. Attorney a decade ago which gave multimillionaire Jeffrey Epstein a very light sentence for sex crimes involving underage girls Kosta says his office stepped in when state prosecutors were ready to lead up seen Walk Epstein faces new federal charges for allegedly running a sex trafficking ring and abusing minors sources say president trump told the Kosta to step forward amid a drumbeat of calls for his resignation also tonight. Haas Democrats are scrambling to get ready for next week's testimony by former special counsel Robert Muller. They're trying to make the most of limited time but some are already cautioning against expecting too too much from the hearings but testimony is seen as a make or break moment for Democrats pushing for an impeachment Inquiry House Speaker Senator James Langford of the House of the Senate Homeland Security Committee and our correspondents and analysts they will have full coverage bridge of the day's top stories. Let's begin with the breaking news our chief White House correspondent Jim Acosta standing by Jim. The president's battle Labor secretary is defending his actions as a U._S.. Attorney a decade ago. That's why wolf in an update eight so far officials over here at the White House believes Labor Secretary Alex Acosta handled himself well at that press conference earlier this afternoon as we saw as he came out in front of the cameras there were no apologies no regrets in the embattled labor secretary regarding his handling of the Jeffrey the Epstein Case Secretary Acosta also claimed he still has the support of the president. Even though Mr Trump hasn't always stood by cabinet secretaries who faced intense scrutiny in the past under fire over a plea deal he wants cut for multimillionaire sex sex offender Jeffrey Epstein Labor Secretary Alex Kosta defended his handling of the case during his days as a federal prosecutor. No regrets has a very hard question. You always look back and you say what if with new victims coming forward questioning whether a cost it was too lenient in the case the secretary was asked whether he would have reached the same agreement today time and again he pointed the finger at state prosecutors in Florida claiming they were going to allow Epstein to avoid jail time today's world tweets victims very very differently. Today's world does not allow some of the victims shame that could have taken place at trial. I don't think we can say you know. Take a case that is this old and fully know-how play out today. We did what we did because we wanted to see Epstein go to jail. There is a value to a short guilty plea because letting him walk leading what the State Attorney was ready to do. Go forward would have been absolutely all the secretary made it clear he's not about to resign talking up his relationship with President trump while working in a plug for the administration's record my relationship with the president outstanding <hes> he has I think very publicly <hes> made clear that that I've got his support I serve at the pleasure of the President <hes> I thought yesterday he was kind and he showed great support. We are here because we are part of an administration that is creating jobs to senior administration official told C._N._N.. The president's first instinct was to fight back against Democrats calling for the secretary's resignation officials said Mr Trump's attitude was quote screw them the secretary also blasted reports that he's on thin ice with acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney. Our relationship is excellent to and then any articles to the contrary are in his words he s a little true trump administration fashion. The secretary took a swipe at the media. I've read this and one of the things I find interesting is how how facts become facts because they're in a newspaper her. Thank you very much. The question is whether the secretary's performance was enough to stay on one of Mr Trump's. Close friends was betting that his days were numbered. I think the plea agreement he did is indefensible. I think that he's not going to stay for long wrong but for now it seems secretary. Acosta may be able to stay on for now but the secretary may want to look back at how other embattled cabinet members have fared in the past one senior administration official. Put it one day you're working for president trump and one day yeah you're not there was one other departure here in Washington that was welcomed by the White House as the British Ambassador to the U._S.. Announced he is stepping down after some of his past criticisms of Mr Trump surfaced in the news media one top White House official told reporters earlier today that that was. Was the right course of action. That was one departure over here at the White House. They were welcoming Jim Acosta at the White House for us. Thank you very much. Let's dig deeper right. Nasi curious canal is here in the Situation Room Out Carrie. You've been going through the legal documents around this two thousand seven two thousand eight case Sir. What did you find out he'll have been combing through the record in this case and we found a number of letters between two thousand seven and two thousand eight just after this non-prosecution agreement was reached where lawyers Jeffrey Epstein reaching out to Alex Acosta still trying to get him to knock two of his prosecutors off the case end to end the prosecution completely when that failed <hes> at stearns legal team brought in Ken Starr the lawyer who prosecuted or went after Bill Clinton in the Whitewater Investigation Monica Lewinsky had him appeal L. to the Department of Justice in Washington he reached out to the Criminal Division the Child Exploitation Division and the Deputy Attorney General's office and believe it or not in one of those claims they actually said that the prosecution of Epstein was politically motivated motivated because of his close personal association with the former President Bill Clinton now the deputy Attorney General's office one of the assistants there had responded saying that the prosecution was quote appropriate now remember this prosecution wasn't even one that was ever really supposed to be made public it involved no jail time and no actual federal charges well? It's interesting because when Alex Acosta Labor Secretary was asked today to look back at his handling of this case and I want to be precise he didn't appear you to accept direct responsibility in fact he repeatedly appointed to others right I mean he he pointed to both the state prosecutors on the case and then he even was passing some of the blame onto his line assistance mentioning you know specifically one of them and the conduct and the actions that she's taken in this case now that runs counter to the record you see in the court filings that cost a was involved that he did have meetings with one of his former law partners who is representing Jeffrey Epstein and that it also runs counter to the other cases that pastas office brought during that exact same time period where they prosecuted people for one person one victim that they had assaulted not what was alleged dozens of victims in that case puriscal doing some important reporting for us. Thank you very much. Let's go to our senior congressional correspondent Manu Raju. He's up on Capitol Hill. No you just spoke with the House figure Nancy Pelosi. What did she have to say about? Secretary Costa's news conference while Nancy Pelosi been very clear that she he wants nothing short of Alyssa Causes Resignation as Labor secretary she said in the aftermath of the indictment of Jeffrey Epstein she also made that clear and the days that followed and as she was leaving a briefing earlier this afternoon I asked her about aw the press conference and a cost of making it very clear that he was not resigning and she said this so the question is what do Democrats do from here. Nancy Pelosi made clear to me yesterday that she didn't really have much of an interest of launching a full scale investigation into this plea deal that was offered back in Florida to Jeffrey Epstein. She said that they want to focus the legislative agenda instead but there are there are some interest from one Committee the House Oversight Committee were sent a letter to Alex Cause to ask him to testify later this month to lay out the details of this plea agreement no word yet about whether or not cost will come and whether or not it will lead to a subpoena from the House Oversight Committee so there is still some interest on Capitol Hill to get some more answers to why what has happened here whether outs a caused a properly move forward with that plea the agreement more than a decade ago bottom under what are you learning about the Democrats Strategy for next week Robert Muller testimony behind the scenes Democrats are scrambling to make sure that they get the most out of their time will have only that you two hours in two separate hearings and it'll be split equally between Democrats and Republicans so for the House Judiciary Committee which has more than forty members each side will have one hour only to ask questions of Robert Muller Than Thousand Intelligence Committee. We'll have a similar to our arrangements split equally between the two sides of Democrats behind the scenes wolf. I'm told are trying to figure out an exact strategy to get the answers they want to their questions. Beginning meetings tonight tomorrow as well figure out exactly what they want. I WANNA ask to bite up there among their members effectively stick to the script but what Wolf I'm hearing from a number of Democrats. They are concerned that just two hours won't be enough time to get exactly what they want. which is more information to get the special counsel detail all the allegations in a more than four hundred page report and already Democrats are saying that look we need them to come back because that's just simply not gonna be enough time so right now? Democratic leaders are sorting out the logistics try and divide up how they want to ask their questions but you're hurting some questions as the whole world will be watching and people who are saying that this can change the dynamics lead to an impeachment proceeding of this president but some saying there's just not going to be enough time to get all of their questions answered so at the Moment Wolf Democrats doc is trying to figure out exactly how to maximize limited time with a special county. I'll give it a little bit of time the Democrats and the Republicans for that matter they all have to be very disciplined and asks questions rather than make speeches which they offered like to do in these kinds of hearings Maharaja. Is Your Open Capitol Hill. Thank you very much joining us not Republican Senator James Lankford of Oklahoma. He's a key member of the Homeland Security Committee senator. Thanks so much for joining us going to be what he will do so we have lots to discuss but let me begin with the breaking news should the Labor Secretary Alex Aleksic Kosta resigned over his handling of the Epstein Case No. I don't think he should resign. I think we should allow the Department of Justice to do their investigation in the background work on this. What I'm disappointed at is so much of the coverage the last really forty eight hours on every network work has been about President trump cost labor secretary and we've not really spent a lot of time talking about these girls that were abused in the process and traffic and about Epstein? What the horrific accident he really did this horrific crime? We need to keep the focus on. It being horrific. Crime led the Department of Justice do their investigation. They're now in their second investigation. Obviously what happened in Florida decade ago and now in New York to be able to finish this out with new additional witnesses. Let that go. Let's get this person prosecuting go through the process and get justice a folks folks and then allow that investigation and go forward into into go back and review what happened ten years ago I think it's appropriate but the focus needs to be on those kids especially and and actually getting justice about those those girls were fourteen fifteen years old who make a very important terrific traffic they clearly were abused and that raises the question. Why do the U._S.? Attorney at that time Alex Causton South Florida give this very lenience bleed deal with with upstate and I think those are all legitimate questions asking I think department injustices going to pull that up. I think that'd be a normal investigation when they're retrying some of these issues and bringing up additional people with additional witnesses to go back and find out what did the state of Florida do why was the state of Florida struggling to be able to prosecute this case had it into the US Attorney's office and then how is the plea deal made very reasonable questions and I think those answers should come out because a federal judge as you know said Alex Akasa violated the law by not telling up Steen's victims about the prosecution agreement that was worked out the plea agreement that the government signed onto doesn't that alone warrant an apology from Alex Kosta Yeah. Let's get all the details out on that individual find out from Kosta again. He's got to be able to go back and review this with Department of Justice and to be able to make it right in any way that we can Dan my my my impression is a lot of the push right now is because he's a trump cabinet member not because of the case might focus would be let's focus on him as an attorney not as a cabinet member and a U._S. Attorney and find out what mistakes were made. How do we never do this again? And how do we make sure that aren't some other individuals and other places that we had a prosecution that was not fully fulfilled. Would you make an important point. These were fourteen fifteen sixteen year old girls who were abused. It really awful ways. Would you like to see a secretary AKASA. Come before Congress. John Russel lawmakers like you and others can directly ask them questions about the decisions. He made a decade ago. So actually what I would like to see is the same we would do with any other U._S.. Attorney let the Department of Justice to go through the process on this let them do their investigation buying closed doors wars as they would for any other U._S. attorney to be able to get those hard questions a deposition or a closed-door meeting. We'll get much more out of it than a hearing. Would the only reason a hearing is even being discussed in this is because he's trump's secretary labor otherwise this any other U._S. attorney earning any other question on a case we'd be going through normal protocol so I I would ask we go through normal protocol first and then if we don't get good answers then elevate judiciary committee was he properly vetted in his confirmation hearings by the U._S.. Senate voted to confirm all the Republicans. I think voted to confirm eight Democrats opposed it. One Independent Angus King of Maine Democrats supported his confirmation. One Independent Angus King also supported his confirmation whizzy properly vetted only only Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia even ask questions about the case so that's what I was about to say yes because that information was available people could see Tim Caine was able to ask information of Em- personally on that so the White House had looked at it but Democrats and Republicans in the Senate and it had looked at it there was the questions that were asked everyone thought they had sufficient answers had to be able to go through the process. Now we have additional information additional witnesses that are coming forward now that allows for a renewed prosecution in that case which is a good thing for those victims able to go through. Let's talk about the Robert Muller coming testimony next week. One of bowlers definitive conclusions right at the beginning of his four hundred fifty page report was that the Russians directly interfered in our two thousand sixteen presidential election but at a briefing everything today up on Capitol Hill top administration officials wouldn't even say whether president trump has even received a comprehensive briefing on election security looking forward to twenty twenty. I know you're too sensitive briefing on this issue today as well does that worry you know that doesn't worry me because I was in a briefing today with the head of the F._B._i.. With the Office of National Intelligence with Homeland Security multiple leaders from multiple different areas and our government and to be able to get an update of what they're already doing to protect sector elections for twenty twenty what they did for twenty eighteen lessons learned from two thousand sixteen twenty eighteen what they're applying for twenty twenty so there are a long way down the road they were very clear. They've had interaction with the president and the White House they've had go on all of their work behind the scenes to be able to make sure they were both working with individual states and all fifty states now have an additional cyber protection on their election system. That was not there for years ago Aso dealing with Cybersecurity is much more advanced now than what it was four years ago. There's a lot more or awareness interaction state to state and then interaction agency the agency so our questions are really focused on twenty twenty. What are they doing resin the politics behind the scenes on it and I was very impressed with what has already been done and what they didn't twenty eighteen which we saw go off basically basically without a hitch in two thousand eighteen because of the aggressive measures they took you make a very important point <hes> senator Lankford because all of the top national security intelligence cybersecurity people in the administration and the government they all all on the same page? They have to do something very very serious to stop the Russians they talk about it. Openly they have no complaints about what the the Muller report came up with on that specific issue but why do we never hear the president of the United States speak about not this <hes>. You'd have to ask him on that. One or his spokesman on my perception is that he feels like there's still folks that are out there saying the only reason he's president is because the Russians were trying to interfere he would obviously vehemently push back against that and say worked very harden campaign and got more votes and all that process so I I think he his perception is what I get from him is. There's there's a sense that some people are trying to de-legitimize his election based on that we have no evidence of any votes being switched during that time period. That's been very clear. Have I'm very consistent with all of our intelligence folks that have gone through the process and we need to continue to be vigilant to make sure that we continue to protect the system so that people can trust the system. We gotta go but you have no doubt. The Russians interfered. I have no doubt the Russians tried to interfere in twice sixteen. They started early two thousand fourteen. I have no question they did that and I have no question. Our government is standing ready to be able to take him on for twenty twenty. Make sure they can push back on anything now and you have no doubt that their intention was to help. Donald Trump got elected. Oh No I have lots of doubts on that because even. Things like the Christopher Steele the the famous dossier that was out there. I have no doubt that that was rushing generated as information that was countered to trump so there's a lot of things that were helpful to the president. There were lots of things that were hurtful to the president there route the Russians were playing both both sides of this trying to be able to create a stir as they went to the election which they have certainly been successful at you know they they all conclude the Russians wanted to sow dissent political dissent here in the United States that was their goal. That's why they started this but in the end they really went <music> out of their way to try to help trump and hurt Hillary Clinton yeah they did more to help candidate trump no question than they did Hillary Clinton but they also had information go in the other direction they all said Pro Bernie Sanders things they had green party things out there and when you go back I can see a breakdown of the things that they were doing and social media by far. They were doing more anti Hillary Clinton but they had a lot of other information including as I mentioned before this famous dossier that's a Russian document that was anti candidate trump at that point that they were getting out into the open so there was quite a bit to go both sides all right Senator Lyford. We're GONNA continue this conversation. It's really important down the road. Thanks so much for joining us. You bet up next labor. Secretary Alexis Kosta rejects calls that he resigned defending the two thousand eight three daily arranged as a U._S. attorney which gave multimillionaire Geoffrey F._c.. A very light sentences for sex crimes plus a hurricane watch issue for part of the Louisiana Coast Right now heavy rains are already causing serious problems along the central Gulf coast stand by for the latest. I remember to create an ad like this. One visit pure winning dot com slash C._N._N.. Breaking news the Labor Secretary Alex Dacosta this afternoon defended his actions and as a federal prosecutor negotiated a plea deal with sex offender Jeffrey Epstein a decade ago. Kosta says he has no intention of resigning. Let's bring in our experts our correspondents and analyst to assess Caitlyn you were there at that news conference at the Department of Labor earlier today and you've done some serious reporting on the pressure behind the scenes from the president on Alex Acosta to do something tell us about that president trump was the reason he came out today and did answer those questions from reporters because they got on the phone yesterday and the president told him he needed to defend himself and do so ERNA press conference maybe taking questions because he wanted him to go out there and defend his actions as he oversaw that plea deal now we do report last night that the president had been privately telling people he had confidence in secretary cost essentially making the same argument he did in the Oval Office yesterday downplaying his role in the deal saying that there were multiple people involved and also stating that it was eleven years ago the president was saying it was a longtime ago so that is why he wanted to come out and forcefully defend himself and a lot of people in the West Wing were saying that this performance was really going to determine whether or not he stayed on as the Labor secretary. It's interesting because during that news conference Susan the Labor Labor Secretary repeatedly sought to deflect he was blaming others whether the state of Florida or career prosecutors he didn't take responsibility right so he was certainly ready to throw just about everybody under the bus intimating that the state was going to pursue lesser charges with the responsibility lay with career prosecutors but keep in mind. This was not a deal that just happened to occur at the U._S.. Attorney's office while a cost happened to be the boss a cost of personally met with Epstein's lawyer not at the US Attorney's office as one might expect but instead set at a Miami Hotel which goes to how incredibly irregular this was it was at that breakfast meeting but they hashed out this deal by which Epstein served only thirteen months in prison with essentially allowed to sort of come and go at will essentially unheard of they also agreed to immunize unnamed co-conspirators so really an astonishing deal considering the strength of the Evanston Dacosta that that seventy a breakfast meeting with the lawyers representing Epstein was done after the plea deal had already been worked out so the Miami Herald is reporting contradicts that and I do think that one thing for Walla cost of deserves credits for answering an hour worth of questions today <hes> you know he he was not forthcoming on whether or not he fully informed the victims right. He was a vase on some the key details so it's hard to say whether or not his account of the story is credible at the point well. He said we didn't inform the victims because we were afraid that if they knew about money that might be coming to them that it could be used against them by Epstein tourneys I mean it seems to me that they were Kinda. bludgeoned by epsteins lawyers some pretty famous lawyers upstate some high powered lawyers certainly did include including one of whom was a former law partner of a Costa's us but but a Kosta as Susan was saying was blaming everybody else for this and saying you know that arrangement was B F he shouldn't have been he shouldn't have been allowed to go to work while he was serving his jail time I mean who did that and he didn't really say what new evidence there is that he was praising the southern district of New York for finding what what is their new about this. There were thirty six victims at the time I mean wasn't that enough enough and also in this question of immunizing potential co conspirators. He didn't really explain why that occurred did he. I mean I'm not much of a liability for the president. That's the thing we never know with us. President Right. We've seen this over and over again with people who work for the president even either in the cabinet or in the White House there is a lots of scrutiny a lots of damaging scrutiny and sort of damning evidence against them in terms of wrongdoing or in this case sort of I think what I thought was a bit of a pompous in week performance by a Kosta and seeming sort of just go along and be railroaded by Epstein a lawyer so we've seen this play out. It's all up to the president ultimately. We don't know if at some point he changes his not mine mind we do know that his instinct is to fight right. His instinct is to draw a line of between a folks who want to see folks in his administration. Go folks who want to take him down folks who want to take people who work with him down and so he taints to kind of. <hes> defend them at all costs. We've seen that over and over again. We'll see if this press conference made makes a difference. I thought it was a terrible press conference of the sort of blaming the timing of it saying Oh you know this was a very very very long time ago. It was only eleven years ago in these victims are would have been treated differently than they would have been now. I thought it was a terrible standby. There's a lot more we need to discuss. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back. The right sheets can take your sleep and your style filed to the next level with Boll and branch. The upgrade has never been more affordable. Every set is crafted from one hundred percent organic cotton. They get softer and softer over time that's why they have thousands of five star reviews and even three U._S.. Presidents Have Boll and branch sheets. 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You sure you can complain but how about coming to me so I don't have to read. Did it on twitter I and I think she's she put out the word there look you don't have to stand in line behind me all the time but we have to have a united front because we're dealing with these usually important issues and of course this comes on on the heel of a heels of her saying Maureen Dowd your rights they have four votes and by the way she was also right about that they have four votes and so I think she's kind of saying to them. You know I'm not GonNa roll over for you and you need to understand where I am coming from and how important these issues are and so yeah. There's a rift in the I mean that was a low blow. I thought for Nancy Pelosi to go in talk to Maureen Dowd in this pretty big B.'s in the New York Times and sort of trash rash of these younger members do have a following and do have a perspective and it's not just on twitter. It's an entire wing of the Democratic Party US heard I think to come and say oh. We should make nice. Well you know Nancy Pelosi. You were trashing them in the in the pages of the New York Times. I'll very publicly there's a serious rift yeah that has emerged house the White House Caitlyn viewing all this with glee short. Aren't they love any kind of division within the Democratic Party that is par- part of it is saying that the president should be impeached other for half of it is conducting widespread investigations into the president and then of course there are over two dozen ish around that <hes> Democrats running against Donald Trump hoping to beat him in the presidential election so any kind of division like this between a party that is center left and a party that is way more to the left that something that the White House and the trump campaign wants to not only see but also exploit over the next year and a half as they didn't try to make the argument for why trump should be really does Nancy Pelosi Susan. She's been a minority leader in the House of Representative and she's been speaker of the House so representatives. She wants to stay on as speaker she wants the Democrats in after the next election to maintain that majority and not go back to the minority I think she recognizes that any internal divisions among the Democrats are going to help trump get reelected and that's what she's up against these tweets from younger members they might be popular on social media with one wing of the party but at the end of the day they don't actually help advance a progressive agenda they don't get bills drafted or past and so eventually people are going to have to decide whether or not they are playing a team sport here because if they are divided they are not going to unseat an incumbent prosciutto. She's got these thirty moderates. She's she's gotTa worry about who were elected and trump districts and she you know she's kind of giving them a masterclass here and how this place works and saying to them. I want to remain in not so many words I need to remain speaker of the House and you're not helping us and you have to figure out which side you're on and she said you know sometimes you need to compromise is dirty word and you may have to learn that just like she had to learn it when she had to compromise herself so but that said she's also she's not just resisting this far left wing Pelosi's also resisting major calls for impeachment or basic oversight oversight into things like Alex Acosta's handling Epstein until she's finding ourselves further and further not just from the very progressive wing but even from some of the centrist that the consequences are enormous in this feud that has emerged guy stick around. There's more breaking news a Hurricane Watch. It has just been issued for part of the Louisiana coast. We have the latest forecast hi everyone it's poppy harlow in this week's episode of boss files and exclusive interview with Google CEO Sundar Pichai his remarkable story growing up in India with little access to technology to landing the top job at Google job. He'd never raised his hand for for the first time Google response to news of a possible anti-trust antitrust investigation of the company and lawmakers calls to break up big tax plus his pledge to do more to curb the spread of disinformation and he on Youtube. We sat down with him at Google Data Center in Pryor Oklahoma Oklahoma or the company is adding hundreds of jobs as it invests across the Midwest subscribe to boss files today and listen to our exclusive interview with Google CEO Sundar Pichai. Where'd you news? Hurricane Arcane Watch has been issued for parts of the Louisiana coast ahead of a storm that isn't even fully formed yet. Let's go to our meteorologist. Tom Sater Tom. What's happening in the Gulf of Mexico? We don't even have a tropical depression yet but how. How this formed is extremely interesting? This came from a bit of energy inland and then drifted south into the Gulf of Mexico hurricane season started on June. I could be a hurricane as we look at the weekend. It'll be the first landfall during the month of of July in the Gulf since two thousand eight and that was Bonnie Dali. Excuse me that moved into Texas Tropical Storm Watch from the Pearl River to the mouth of the Mississippi in pink is a hurricane watch from the mouth of the Mississippi across us all the way over toward Cameron Louisiana. There's a lot of uncertainty of where this is going to make landfall but there are a couple of things we know for sure a precursor today tremendous amounts of rainfall two tornado watches a flash flood emergency with over two hundred and fifty emergency calls today as the system brushed through the area. The river system can't take anymore right now just to give you an idea the broad circulation and still well off to the West in the next twenty four hours we could have a name storm Berry and then as it makes its way through this bath water. It's like a hot tub in the Gulf. It's warmer than it should be wolf. We're expecting some intensification gets a Category One hurricane but it doesn't matter the category right now. This is all about the rain. We had nine point four two inches. This is one in twenty fifty year event following the one and one hundred year event you had up in D._C.. But it's about the warnings when Hurricane Katrina made landfall the levy on the Mississippi River in New Orleans was just over three feet right now that same levy is at sixteen expected to go to twenty the record is twenty one. This could be the highest level at this Levee System in ninety years at Twenty Feet Wolf. We're looking at this rainfall and this level to be right at the top of the levy system. That's going to be a real test on this system as we watch the system move in for the weekend but it's all about ten fifteen maybe twenty inches of rain to come in next month. It'll be fourteen years since hurricane. Katrina hit that Louisa <hes> area Tom Sater will stay on top of this very serious. Development indeed coming up a former U._S.. Marine threatened by North Korea could Kim Jong loons hit-men target him and others right here in the United States. jang-hoon's regime may be planning to make a move against an American accused of leading a stunning rate on a North Korean embassy. Brian Todd has been working as sources worse Brian Learning. We have new information tonight from an attorney for that American man man involved in the embassy rate in Spain and from court documents they confirmed the North Koreans have put a target on this man's back and even if they are in the U._S.. Spain or elsewhere either he nor one of US cohorts are safe from the long arm of Kim Jong UN's intelligence service tonight new indications that North Korea's violent young dictator could be targeting some of his highest profile adversaries who are Americans for assassination there members of a group called the provisional government government free Josiane whose goal is to overthrow Kim Jong UN's regime one of their members former U._S.. Marine Christopher on has just been granted bail by a judge in L._A.. And should be under house detention within days on and other members of free page Osan are accused of leading a brazen broad daylight raid on North Korea's embassy in Madrid in February making away with thumb drives hard drives computers and cellphones on was arrested in L._A.. In April and Spain wants the U._S. to extradite him. There on's lawyer tells C._N._N.. She's fighting that there are people on the ground who are connected to the North Korean government. They can reach out to people <hes> in Spain if they want to. <hes> commit a crime <music>. I'm or or harm somebody. The judge on case backs her up writing in a court order the F._B._I.. has confirmed that the North Korean government has threatened his life. He is apparently the target of dictatorships efforts to murder him on lawyer says she fears he'd it'd be endanger even if he's incarcerated in Spain danger from North Korean agents and their criminal contacts officials there are probably in touch with people in the underworld in Spain people who would have no problem finding their way into Spanish jail if Mr Anwar to be detained there on is concerned that North Korean agents could even get to him while he's in the U._S.. One former spy says North Korea could well have a network of operatives in the L. A. Area and they wouldn't blink at targeting on there. They wouldn't hesitate Acetate of killing somebody in the United States. They're just not they're not going to their. It's a vicious regime as we know Christopher on is not the only leader of Free Joe's on who's apparently endanger tonight. American Adrian Hong Accused by Spain of being being the mastermind of the embassy raid is in hiding on the run from U._S.. Marshals and his lawyer says North Korean agents we know from credible sources <hes> that the North Korean government <hes> has is seeking Adrian Hong <hes> and some of his associates from the provisional government of free jokes on <hes> and is seeking to target them for assassination. You authorities rated hongs apartment in April but he wasn't there the lawyers for Hong in on denies Spain's Spain's accusations that they beat and tied up North Korean officials during the embassy rate in February still analysts say Kim Jong Hoon must be enraged over that incident to have someone enter the the North Korean embassy take control of it for some time I would really be seen as quite an insult quite a criticism of North Korea to Kim would take that personally it would be seen as a personal affront of the regime so he would want to lash out tonight. The attorneys for Christopher on Adrian Hong Long are also critical of the Justice Department saying that it's dismaying that the department has executed warrants against Americans based on the accounts of North Korean officials in Spain. Those attorneys tells C._N._N.. They are worried that on and Hong if he's ever caught could eventually be extradited shredded actually to North Korea if they're not harmed first justice officials tell C. N.. N. anyone extradited to Spain is going to get due process under Spanish law and they've indicated they are not likely to help facilitate any extraditions to North Korea Wolf all right Brian Good report. Thank you very much coming up labor. Secretary Alex Kosta Rejects Calls to resign defending the secret two thousand eight plea deal. You arranged as a U._S.. Attorney which gave multimillionaire Jeffrey Epstein an easy sentence for sex crimes will president.

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Ep. 608 - You're Fired

The Andrew Klavan Show

51:07 min | 2 years ago

Ep. 608 - You're Fired

"With America heading for divided government. Again, both parties are beginning to talk about a revived spirit of bipartisanship between the newly strengthened Republican Senate and the ravening hordes of brain eating anti-american zombies who will soon be roaming, the halls of the house looking for institutions and traditions to destroy devour possible. Speaker of the house Nancy Pelosi struck a tone of reconciliation in her election night speech to a mob of Tyrolean, peasants who were carrying torches and screaming. Bring us the orange monster. Pelosi told them quote tomorrow will be a new day in America Wednesday, in fact, and the next day will be Thursday after that it's anyone's guess, but I can confidently declare where am I and with someone please remind me what my last name is. So I can pick up my social security check on quote soon to be head of the house intelligence committee, Adam Schiff joined in the good-will effort announcing to reporters, quote, I look forward to working with the perfidious nest of traitors rushing vipers with infiltrated this administration, unquote shift and Toro. His full face mask and revealed that he was actually the late Senator Joseph McCarthy and was promptly reburied with a stake through his heart and a clove of garlic stuffed in his mouth as it should have been months ago, even formerly hostile reporters like C, N N's. Jim Acosta seemed to be mitigating their tone at a press conference after the vote a cost politely asked the president quote, excuse me, Mr President, aren't you literally Hitler? And don't you think that everyone should look at me because I'm Jim Acosta unquote, President Trump himself made an effort by reaching across the aisle and climbing to the top of gas storage tank where he shouted quote. You'll never take me alive. G men. Look Ma top of the world after which he fired his Tommy gun into the gas tank and blew himself and the press corps to kingdom come and went out and played a round of golf trigger. Warning. I'm Andrew klavan. And this is the Andrew claybin shop. Just to give. Tops. Zoe. All right here. We are. We are heading like a careen out of control car into the Cleveland last weekend. So brace yourself, but also you can stave off the worst of it. When tomorrow we release another kingdom to the wide world. The latest episode of another kingdom, which I believe is called. He bought me. Isn't that the one we're on? Yep. And that's been out for subscribers all week. But it will now be out to all you, please go on please subscribe on soundcloud, or I tunes and leave a five star review. And please listen because it really is good. And you will like it. 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That's ZipRecruiter dot com slash DA. I L Y W I R S, ZipRecruiter dot com slash daily wire absolutely free. Try it out. Don't let this happen to us. Oop recruiter is the smartest way to hire. Hey, we're having a tragedy here in California, not far from us, and certainly not far from where I used to live in Ventura County. Thousand Oaks guy, another another lunatic. Another lunatic with the cops knew about couldn't get committed. They couldn't put him away where this and this is the problem we keep having after all California has the harshest gun laws in the country. So it's not about the gun laws. He walked in and opened fire on a bunch of college kids at a bar killed. I think the last estimate I saw was twelve or thirteen people died and a police officer a sheriff sheriff's department sergeant Ron Ellis engage the suspect along with the California Highway Patrol officer. And according to the LA times helps was shot multiple times and died at a local hospital. You know, this is the thing that really has come home to me last night Knowles, and I were over at Loyola Marymount. You can actually watch this online. We we had a wonderful wonderful time. But the last couple of speeches I've been at I've been followed around by armed guards in there have been armed police officers. I think there was there was security there less. Tonight. I'm not sure they were police officers it it's not a good feeling to tell you the truth of police officers are men you around when you're just going onto a college campus to talk about ideas, which is what they should be doing on a college campus. But it does bring home to me every time. I see it what a remarkable place. This is where the police show up to ensure your free speech. I, you know, this is not true virtually anywhere else in even in England. Right. The second free his country in the world may be along with Israel. The police can come the police send out these warnings watch. What you say watch. Would you say don't insult the Muslims? Don't insult. You know, don't say anything blasphemous about the prophet. You know, and all this and you can be arrested in Britain for speaking. Whereas here the police show up to protect you. They show up to protect free speech. This is a beautiful beautiful thing. You know, this is a a remarkable thing. So last night at this, Loyola Marymount speech Nelson. I are there. And and you know knows night of the two nicest people in the country. Right. I don't think there's maybe maybe, you know, I don't know Julie Andrews is she still in the country. But after that is me annuls and these protesters show up, and they gagged themselves they had the duct tape over their mouth and nose actually said to him who who gagged you. Oh, you gags you, you know, you you were doing this to yourself and one of the things we learned in this last election was that educated white people don't like Trump, and maybe they don't like Republicans in general all these blue suburban districts where there were educated people went even more blue, and they became even more democrat and people are saying that they always say, oh, Democrats are losing the educated suburbanites. They've got to learn how to talk to them. Well, yes, they have to learn how to talk to them. But the other side of this is we have to stop educating people to be idiots. We have to stop educating people in indoctrinating them. I mean after Knowles, and I talked and. Guys. Listen to us. Right. You know, what we talk like after we talk. These people had to go off to a safe space and be reoriented. They had to basically be re brainwash in case, we said anything that might have been too convincing to truthful, they had to be told back to, you know, talk back, and we were told later, you know, they were they were silent and polite at our meeting, I will give them that. But before we were given audio and video of them, screaming obscenities at the organizers, and we know that they took. Or me. They took a words out of context. At one point. I said to people look, you know, I'm I'm kind of libertarian about the way you live your lives. I said I'm to unto old enrich to care. What you do? And they translated that into I was too old and rich to care about the problems of black people or something like this. And this is what they were telling them and an echoing back to make sure we didn't get any new ideas into their head. So it's really it's only partly about Republicans learning to speak to educated people. It is also about what -education is doing to people in this country. It's teaching them to be smaller minded, and I think one of the things that organizations Republican on campus organizations should be doing is. They should be actively going before the administration and saying look you have got to start hiring some conservative teachers, we should be able to organize debates between professors who were on this campus. We have got to turn this educational system around. It is fine for there to be left wing teachers. But there should be right wing teachers to it is just at. Absolutely disgusting. And they are teaching these people basically to hate free speech. They are teaching them. The free speech is the problem. Free speech is the danger reason these people were wearing gags is our very presence. The very presence. Michael Knowles, the evil Michael Knowles. And I admit he is evil, but the evil Michael Knowles and the evil. Andrew klavan an un- allegedly guy. The very presence was gagging them with somehow silencing them somehow harming them, and that that kind of fragility is, you know, it's just a terrible terrible thing. And his is what is causing this stuff. We are seeing now which is obsolete horrifying last night, a mob, a mob showed up at Tucker Carlson's house and was screaming at him. Here's just a little clip of it. The Tucker's kids are in there and his wife is in there. And they're screaming, we know where you sleep an even worse. Matthew yglesias is tweeting out. He's tweeting out. Oh, you know, what about the people who were afraid of ice? You know? I'm I have no feelings for chucker crosses wife. You know, the his victims are afraid will Tucker doesn't have any victims. He just has viewers, and they there's a little knob a little button on your remote control. You can just turn Tucker off like that. If that's what you wanna do Tucker's expressing opinions. And if you are so damaged by his opinions, and you know, I like I like Glaziev said, I know people who are to hide away from ice because they broke the law. I know people at the hideaway from the police because they've committed crimes, you know. It's like I my feelings don't extend quite that far. All Tucker is doing is expressing opinions. And in his opinions are not agreed as he's kind of a libertarian conservative. More or less. He's expressing opinions. And they feel that they can respond to opinions with with a centrally acts of violence hours after this mob showed up at the home of Tucker Carlson, and affiliated Twitter account published. His home address on the home address of his brother along with the addresses of Ann Coulter daily caught callers, Neil Patel, and Sean Hannity that Twitter feed that is doc seeing these people as not been taken down, but what has been taken down. As Michael Knowles was suspended a couple of other. You know, a lot of other conservative sites have been suspended, but you can say anything you want. If you're a leftist about Jews, you can say anything you want. You can reveal these things if you're, you know, this is the way that educated people are now being educated into small night, mindedness and stupidity. So if the the small the educated people are turning against Republicans, it may not be the fault of Republicans in may be the fault of the educations, you know, of the education. So. The big news. A, you know, our pulp pause before getting to the big news because I got I have to talk about hair club. Because I know you're looking at me and think where does he get a head of hair like that? Well. All right. All right. I'm what you weighed Cohen, anti example. I'm which when I saw that. I was balding. I said to myself, I'm balding, and I didn't do anything about it. You don't have to be that way here club, you go to hair club. 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And just go to them and say, please, please don't let me become like klavan. And by the way, how do you spell that? It's. V A N so two people got the boot from Donald Trump yesterday, one of them Jeff Sessions, Jeff Sessions was you know, what can you say about Jeff Sessions? He was the attorney general he was one of Trump's earliest supporters, and then he recused himself from the Russia investigation leading to the appointment of the special prosecutor, a special counsel, Robert Muller, and this investigation go on going on and on you know, I hate to keep pointing out how incredibly right? I am. I always say to point out how incredibly right because I don't want you to get it in your head that I am always right. Even though that's the case. You know, I don't because it makes other people look bad. But really when I when they pointed this special counsel that inter the two times actually been more than that. But to two of the times people have come after me afford. What I said was one of them was when Ted Cruz went to the convention and disdained Trump at the convention, and I said that was both a moral error. And a political error and everybody said, oh, no, no, no, you're wrong. Wonderful Ted Cruz. How could he be wrong? And I said, look I love him. But he made a mistake. He paid part of what happened to him with Beddoe Aurore in Texas was him pain for that mistake. That was a mistake. You don't you got to be loyalty or party? You don't have to support Donald Trump at you don't show up in his house at his convention and discipline, that's bad politics. And it's it's actually not the right thing to do and cruise paid for that in Texas losing some points coming to darn close to losing to baiter Aurore. The other thing was this appointment of Robert Muller that they allowed a special counsel to be appointed. I told you it was going to go on and on. He was never gonna stop. We don't even know anymore. What his brief is it started out. It was Russian collusion. But then what's his name rod Rosenstein, the deputy AG. He rewrote the brief for the special counsel. And we that's never been public made public. We don't even know what it is so sessions recused himself and Troy. Trump has been furious about it ever since. And here's the thing. There's no giddy room. This Trump has treated him appallingly. This is one of the things about Donald Trump that I just think is an all negative jet. Jeff Sessions is a good guy. Everybody knows it. Everybody knows. He's a man of straight up integrity. He was one of Trump's first supporters. If he didn't if he was angry at him, you call him in the office and say, I'm really ticked off about this. You don't go in Twitter and say he's disgraceful. You don't insult him again. And again, and again, you don't million him. It is the wrong. It's just the wrong thing to do. And I know a lot of you are full on trumpsters and listened to I talked about what a great job. I think he's doing. I think Trump is doing a great job. But you do not treat a man of respect like Jeff Sessions like that. That said that said sessions, I believe made a mistake. He thought he was doing the right thing. He thought he was doing the principle thing, but he is living in a world where those rules no longer apply. Erica what's his name? The last day the. Obama AG holder. Thank you, Eric Holder whose name I always I blackout his name. I block out his name because he was. So he said, I'm Obama's wing, man. I gotta be there for my boy. That's what he said. I'm Bhamas wingman. And nobody said a word not a word. Okay. Jeff sessions. You know, he didn't have to be as wing, man. He could've live by a higher principle that was fine. But you don't step down when a guy is being attacked away. Donald Trump has been attacked with this phony baloney, Russian collusion thing it has been a phoney baloney thinks since the start it would have been far far more honest to have a special counsel as tray out. He's been calling for investigate the way this investigation got its started the way this whole Russian collusion thing got started Hillary Clinton's role in it a John Brennan's role in it that would be worth investigating. I don't even want a special counsel. I think the special counsel rule out of go by the boards. I think they ought to get rid of it. I don't even want for that. Jeff Sessions made a mistake. But it was a mistake of principle was a mistake of decency. Trump had every reason to be free. Straighted annoyed with him. But he should not have dragged him through the mud and public. So the minute the election is over and the midterms are over he fires the same day. I mean while he saying I'm going to take a look and make decisions down the line. He fired him. That was the right thing to do. He asked for his resignation to be fair. That was the right thing to do why. Because remember James Comey? He came in he hugged, James Komi. And then when he fired him is. Oh my goodness. Obstruction of Justice. They're playing at that way. Anyway, they're gonna play this as if he was doing something evil. Anyway, he was not, you know, he's he wouldn't put rod Rosenstein, the deputy G who would naturally be the guy to replace Jeff Sessions. He didn't let him replace him. Why not because rod Rosenstein is reputed to have been sitting around going. Oh, we got a tape. I'm gonna go wire myself and proved that the Trump is not fit for office. And we'll get rid of him that way. Maybe he was joking. Maybe never said it, we don't even know, but rod Rosenstein, and the president have not been getting along rod Rosenstein is not enough to be questioned by congress as he was supposed to be. He did the right thing. And instead he opposed a pointed Matthew Whitaker who was the. He was the chief of staff, I think, and he so he's made a little noise who's he before he was in the Justice department while he was still on his own as a lawyer. He went on TV numerous times, and he's a Trump loyalist, and he dissed the the Muller investigation. Here's just a clip. So I could see a scenario where Jeff Sessions is replaced. It was a recess appointment, and that attorney general doesn't fire Bob Muller. But he just reduces the budget so low that his his best. Gatien grinds to absolute almost. So he's talking about squeezing Muller out and Chuck Schumer. Of course, I think three people were killed because they were standing between Chuck Schumer and microphone of Chuck Schumer mmediately racist to the microphone with this total load palaver. Protecting. Muller and his investigation is paramount. It would create a constitutional crisis. If this were pre lewd to ending or greatly limiting the Muller. Investigation, and I hope President Trump and those he listens to refrain from that. I find the timing very suspect number one. But number two num-. The are paramount view is that. Any attorney general whether this one or another one. Should not be able to interfere with the Muller investigation in any way. They should not be able to end it. They should not be able to limit it. They should not be able to interfere with Muller going forward and doing what he thinks is the right thing, and that will help guide us as we go through this process. Now, this is nonsense. The Justice department is part of the executive branch. They can do a lot of different things. Nobody's gonna stop Muller from that. I don't I don't think anybody Whitaker were anybody that Trump appoints going forward, he'll probably wait until he has the greater majority in the Senate. I don't think anybody's gonna stop the Muller investigation Muller investigation has gone so far that it's about time for him to report they keep saying, now's the time Muller did the right thing, by the way by not saying anything around the election. If James Komi had been that smart. Hillary Clinton would probably be president today. But but Muller has done the right thing in terms of that, you know, but I just think I think the Trump did the right thing. I think he hated the. Guy. He was frustrated with him. He waited until after the election. This is win their shakeups always happen after the midterms waited. He said goodbye, you know, thank you very much for your service and all this stuff. So I you know, the way the way I feel about this. I feel like sessions was ill-treated. But he also did the wrong thing. And now he has to go. And that's that's the way it should be. I hope he what I basically hope he does is goes back into runs for ones for the Senate get a seat back because we lost that over the ROY Moore kerfuffle, and it would be nice to get it back. The other guy who got Trump's boot in his backside was our old friend. Jim look at me. I'm Jim Acosta. So I I have to talk about this because it showed there's a couple of different things that are going on here. You know, let's play again this confrontation. We we cut it back a little bit play the whole thing last time. But here's a cost of asking what he thinks is an interesting question. Challenge you on on one of those statements that you made in the tail end of the campaign in terms Zooey, go that well, I if you know Monastir as that this caravan was an invasion as you consider to be as you noticed president caravan was not an invasion. It's a it's a group of migrants moving up from Central America towards the border with the US. Thank you hand. Why why did you why did you characterize it as such as I consider an invasion you, and I have a difference of us if I may miss president, right? Are you worried enough? That's that's one of the other folks. That's enough for me. Ma'am, miss. That's enough. I'll tell you what CNN should be ashamed of itself having you work in for them. You are a rude. Terrible person. You shouldn't be working for CNN. So that that's an extraordinary confrontation between the press. Obviously these extrordinary times let's start with this the idea that he laid hands on this young woman. The aide who was reaching for the microphone to take it away. Because the president of the United States had told the cost of that. He was done. He had had his question. Trump answer the question, and it was done. Sarah Sanders tweeted out this content conduct. So it basically his hard pass is hard White House Bassey's he's been denied access to the White House. It's been suspended. I don't know for how long, but he was punished for his behavior and Sarah Sanders tweeted out, this conduct is absolutely unacceptable. It is also completely disrespectful to the Porter's colleagues. Not to allow. Wow. Them an opportunity to ask a question. President Trump has given the press more access than any president history. That is true. And she also said that he had it was wrong for him to lay hands on this young woman was wrong from to lay hands on this woman. So now, a debate starts up Diddy lay hands on this woman. And they the White House tweeted out a slowed down version cl- close up of him brushing, her hint her arm away. Now, he and he said, pardon me, ma'am afterwards. Now, I don't know what's Jimmy costs mind, and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna beat the drum about I mean, he didn't assaulter obviously. But he did chopper hand way. It looks to me. I've now watch this thing may be fifteen times. It looks to me pretty clearly that he chops her hand away. Now, maybe did it by accident may be did it by reflex. And also, you know, she's a big girl in a big girls profession, you know, this is this is part of the game. You know, like he he didn't like puncher. He didn't shovel. He didn't do anything like this. So. You know, a Kosta is a buffoon and he's kind of a thug. I mean, he is kind of a jerk and what he did to her was part of his jerky nece at but I'm not gonna like accused him of assaulting of a female. I think we've gotten too far with the stuff. And again again when you're when you're working in the bigs things get a little bit rough. And but he he was totally out of line to me though, to me the important thing is he was not practicing journalism. Donald Trump in that exchange is a hundred percent in the right? The question I said this yesterday, but it's worth repeating because I want to show you something to other things to Beijing. Other things. The question that he asked they keep saying, well, the president has to be ready for hard questions. He didn't ask a hard question. He said, you say is invasion. I say it's not and Trump quite rightly said, we have a difference of opinion. What is the importance of Jim Acosta's opinion? What he's reporting his opinion mere matters exactly zero percent. And this is in essence the entire problem. The Jim Acosta thinks his job is to correct the president's opinion with his own. That's not journalism. It's not even smart. He's not some kind of expert. He's not dealing. He's not saying. Well, there was this new didn't call it an invasion, then or is that and they you know, they all he's doing saying, you're wrong. And I'm right because I'm Jim Acosta show. Look at me. The thing is I'm absolutely certain. A consta- is basing his journalistic career he thinks that he is going to be Sam Donaldson were Dan rather? And the thing about Sam Donaldson. And Dan, rather, Dan rather first of all ended his career and disgrace. When it was shown that he was peddling fake documents attempt to get George W Bush on nothing on some stupid little violation of regulations when he was in the national guard that would have meant nothing it was years and years and years ago, it just would have been completely uninformed. And yet he so hated him. He so hated him. He disgraced himself ended his professional career, and you can have Robert Redford play him in the movies, all you want. He still is a bad journalist disgraced himself and donelson to is an opinion journalist as well. And when he went after Nixon, he was doing it for his opinion too. So in other words, another words, Jim Kosta is a bad version of bad journalism that the left has been elevating all this time. And if you wanna see I mean here is Jake tapper, you know, yesterday. It was I praised Jake tapper for asking tough questions, maybe it was the day before. But tapper is the the two of them preening in this moment. And I'm going to show you something after this that just puts everything they say in this to shame. But let's play this. I I the President Trump did something that I've never seen an American president do which is go on a personal rant against you. For the questions. You were attempting to ask. While Jake white when they go low, we keep doing our jobs. I mean, that's the way I look at it. And I had a question to ask. And if we had played the tape a little bit before that exchange, you would have seen the question. I was asking which was essentially about this lie that he told before the midterm elections that this caravan of migrants moving from Central America to the US border with Mexico is somehow an invasion when it's not there. They're still hundreds of miles away, and they pose nothing of a threat to the United States. But the president used that language, obviously, as we've talked about so many times to galvanize his base. He just didn't like hearing that question. He didn't like being challenged on that point. And he certainly doesn't like being called out for as falsehoods. None of falsehood. It's a different characterization. There's no falsehood in Bob. And this thing that they've come up with a still hundreds of miles away. It still hundreds. I mean, look at this point the caravan is all broken up and kind of disappeared and dissipated, but the safest hundred miles away that means nothing to say, it's not a threat on what basis? Are you saying that a what basis are? You saying the thousands of people at one point it was close to fifteen thousand people marching this way is not a threat. You know, they're hundreds of. This is like is like when Alexander the great invaded Greece. They were going. Well, you know, maybe he won't come this way. Maybe he will come down and attack. You know, it's like what what are you talking about? What are you talking about hundreds of miles away? If the army, if a foreign invasion force was hundreds of miles away rolling in this direction with that not be a threat, Jim Acosta's entitled to his opinion. I just don't wanna hear it. And I don't know why we should I don't know why we should and Jake tapper his dainty shock his dainty shock that a reporter should get the boot the way a Kosta got the boot is not in keeping with the reaction of the press corps to Barack Obama remember Saint Barack Obama. They are the savior of our nation who treated a someone shouting rude questions at him like this had him thrown out. But this incredible part of this video the credible part. You have to listen to the end is the reaction of the press corps. What you hear in the background is the press corps reacting to President Barack Obama throwing out. Out a rude question. The rise of LGBT Americans is. Hold on side. Okay. You know what? No, no. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Hey. Hey, listen. You're my house. Not. It's not it's not respectful when you get invited to somebody. You're not you're not you're not gonna you're not. You're you're not gonna get a good response from me by interrupting me like this. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Now now. Now, same Anya. We ask for the person. Are you freaking kidding me? Members of the press. This is why we hate him. We hate you. Because you lie. We hate you. Because you lie. You lied to us for eight years you treated this guy. Obama like he was heaven sent look I think he was an incompetent and a leftist. I and I think both those things are bad for president. I I've always said, I don't think he was evil. I think he was ignorant. I think he was one of those guys don't know who doesn't know what he doesn't know. And I think his policy he ran dishonestly. He ran as a centrist. And he became a leftist, basically tried to intersection allies the country. I think he has failed. I think it's amazing the way Donald Trump has a raced his memory, you know, we can barely remember what he stood for what she did is almost all gone except for this awful wreckage of ObamaCare that keeps dragging us down. It's like a it's like a can tied to a dog's tail but this. This. This is why we hate you. It's not because of what you do to Trump. If you had done it to Obama to we might we might still think, oh, you're rude. But at least you be treating everybody the same way you are liars. And when Trump says you're the enemy of the people that okay that may be over the top. But you're certainly the enemy of the president. You are certainly the enemy of conservatives are certainly the enemy of traditional Americanism. And you're certainly the enemy of the Republican party and everything Trump is doing the best thing he's doing is attacking you. Because you deserve it for that. When you did with Obama, which it's not what you do to Trump. You know, torment the president all you want. You know, what what did they say, you know, make the afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted fine. But you didn't do it eight years you didn't do it. And now you're saying, oh, can we be journalists again? No, no. You can't now you're just partisans. Now, you're just commentators and your liars. And that's why we hate you. And you deserve it. You've earned it. You went out. And you got it yourself. Good for you. And you're still doing it. And I'll talk about that. Just a minute. But I want to remind you I want to remind you that all of this wonderful content is coming to you. And we were not doing it for fun. We're doing it. Because we want your money, send us your money. Just don't even think about it. Just send just throw even just throw your wallet at the screen, whatever your whatever device religious stuff your wallet into your iphone. We want your money for a last ten bucks for a lousy ten bucks. 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So they're still doing this. This is the other part of this, you know, to Muslim women one. Elections as congresswoman and this is how NBC from our POWs it newsbusters as how NBC and CBS reported their election. Take a look. The Minnesota thirty six year old yield on Omar became the first ever Somali American elected to congress here in Minnesota. It's a cold state, but the people have warm hearts, and we don't just welcome immigrants, but we send them to Washington. My mom's worn in Somalia, she and her family fled the violence of civil war, which she was eight after years in a refugee camp in Kenya. She immigrated here when she was twelve learning English in three months. Bar mastering politics in the years that followed. This is Casey hunt on Capitol Hill where history is about to be made the newest congress, featuring more than one hundred women a new record among them, the first Muslim women Michigan's Rashida to leave and Minnesota's Ilhan, Omar. So this what this points out? Is the incredible emptiness of the presses intersectional identity politics, call it identity politics, this identity, politics, you know, this is the thing they don't even know it's a point of view anymore. Just like Jim Acosta can't tell the difference between his his opinion. And a fact he can't tell the difference. I mean, they can't tell the difference. They don't even know that that reporting was bad reporting because it's historic. It's historic. And of course, it's never historic when the right doesn't it's not historic that. A Cuban-American is Senator in Texas. That's not historic. I think South Korean the for South Korean was elected. That's not historic because it's a it's Republican. The the fact that they treat Ruth Bader Ginsburg, like the first female Justice supreme court Justice at units another thing with Ginsburg fell and hurt herself broker ribs. When a woman that old fall takes a fall, that's a bad. Bad thing that is a bad sign, and I I wish her well. I hope out she'd comes back and heels if she doesn't that's going to be the next big story for for sure there's going to be a great big fight. But I hope she does heal and she's she's fine. I I know an old people fall is really really difficult, but they treat her like, she's the first female supreme court Justice. And of course, she's not Sandra Day O'Connor, but she was a Republican since only historic when the left budget. But of course, Hysteresis of it the historic -ness of it ignores. The fact of who these women are these are two VERA, lint anti-semites, and the first one Ilan Omar has been very credibly accused of Harry, having married her own brother in two thousand nine as a way of gaming, the immigration system is possible immigration fraud, and she may even have committed student loan fraud as well she says that she married the guy, but the allegation that he is reporter is absurd and offensive. She says. But there is evidence that this is true there. There is a lot of student enrollment records, and and other another evidence supporting the fact that she may be may have married her own brother to game the immigration system. And she also has sent out these tweets about Jews about the state of Israel about how Israel what was let me see if I can find the tweeted was how Israel has has blinded people to, you know, the Jews of blinded people to the truth. The other woman slave she has embraced a one state solution, which means the Jewish state virtually vanishes. She's denied the Jews their right to a sovereign nation seen sT separate, but equal doesn't work. She's linked to an article on Twitter with the headline. How Israel is inciting Palestinian violence. Ha ha ha tweeting a support for rasmiya ODA who faces a life sentence in Israel for murdering two American students in nineteen sixty nine supermarket bombing in Jerusalem. This empty racist philosophy of identity politics that does not hold people to account for the things that they do it the same way as Andrew gillum running in Florida. The that who lost in Florida for governor was able to say, oh, you're just charging me with corruption because you discharge me with corruption because I'm black. Well, you know, he he's been investigated by the FBI he said in his concession speech. I'm not going anywhere the disagree. If they come in and pick them up under the arms, he may be going somewhere in a big hurry, and somewhere he doesn't like very much this inter sexual identity. Politics has just been I it's is a racist philosophy. And it is emptied the press. It is emptied the press any mindfulness of what people are and what they believe which is the only important thing about people really, especially when they're running for office. The important thing is what he believed what are you going to do what he will who even vote for those in the important things. And they simply do not. Report on it going back to this thing. That knows I did Loyola Marymount last night where they kept asking people asked us new number of times. If you're if you think that the Democrats are so bad for black people how come black people keep voting for him. And I said, listen, anybody can be corrupted anybody can be bought, you know, I I mean anybody can be told they're special, but you know, there there are two your two races in this country to races. If I can call them that to let's call them ethnic groups who haven't done as well as other ethnic groups, what one of the native Americans the Indians and the other are blacks who haven't done as well as they should have both of them have been told they're special both of them have been told they have to be paid back for the sins that were committed against them, historically, though, since real though singer real you'll never hear me say those sins aren't real that the past is past. And when you go back and try and fix the past. You can only make things worse. Both of them have been isolated. In their race by policy. If people would stop isolating them. They would be set free to be Americans just like everybody else, and they would live in rise and fall on their own actions and in their own chances. The fact that this identity this racist philosophy of identity. Politics has infested the press as it his infested, the universities as it has infested. Hollywood is just an indication of people cannot tell the difference between opinion, and fact, they cannot tell the difference between philosophy. In fact, they cannot tell the difference finally between politics and morality, this is the emptiness win. They say when they say that the Republicans have failed to communicate with the educated is because the education system has been corrupted the entire communication system of this country has been corrupted and needs to change. All right stuff. I like. That was it. I don't know that was from Joseph governor, it's nice little music, but the so Sunday Monday, you know, his veteran's day in Sunday is the eleven is eleven eleven eleven. It's the the eleven it is the eleventh month the eleventh day of the eleventh month, this is the day on which World War One ended and is always it ended. What was it was the eleventh hour of the eleventh month of the eleventh day? That's what it was when the treaty went into effect and the fighting stop and World War One is something that especially in this country where we were only came in at the last moment and save the day as we tended to do with Europe and the twentieth century. But, but it's it's something that people in America, especially do not understand that it affects us to this day to this day at the turn of the century England, especially Europe also were. At the high with a height of civilization. They had taken civilization to a place that had never been before. There were standing at the pinnacle, the pinnacle of human endeavor, they really were and a mere of fourteen years later a mere fourteen years later, they had essentially wiped out their entire civilization for no reason. I mean, it wiped out a generation of men Russia became the Soviet Union during World War One the Austro-Hungarian empire came to an end the Ottoman empire was essentially brought to the end it's set the rise the stage for the rise of Adolf Hitler. And it really began. The really was the end of the great civilization of Europe which had lasted since the renaissance at least and had brought mankind as I say to a new level. And no one to this day. No, one can tell you why this war began obviously it began with the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand Ferdinand. But why why? Why from that this incredible domino collapse of nations? So that so much was destroyed so much good was wiped off the face of the earth, in some way, you might think, you know, might have been German expansionism, the left has seized the narrative, the left sees the narrative afterwards as they are very good at doing after a war and sold the idea that it was nationalism. It was nationalism. That was the problem. Well, maybe, but maybe it was the way that the nations were set up. So that there were being ruled by the entire all of Europe at that point was being ruled by Queen Victoria's family. So maybe it was an international war. It is really hard to know. It is hard to know why this destruction have maybe it was just like, you know, Norman Mailer went said about cancer may be the reason they can't cure cancer because cancers just deaf and eventually death will come and maybe that's it. Maybe civilizations just die. And it was time for Europe to die and it did die. What is they are? Now is not the Europe of old. It is not even. I I don't even think it's going to survive another century at in his present form, and it also destroyed World War One also destroyed the concept of a patriotism, the sure and certain comp, you know, idea that you were sweet you don't yet decorum appropriate Maury. Sweet. And a right. It is to die for one's fatherland. That was the thing that became that came under fire. There was a famous poem called belch the core. Est- by Wilfred Owen? Many of the poems written at the summer written by gay men, which is really interesting. So these were outsiders who, you know, people were kind of excluded from society in some ways who said, well, why did we wind up in these trenches? It's not that they were brave is not that they didn't go and fight. He wrote this the famous the famous poem in which he he talks about men being gassed, this was the first time poison gas was used and it was so hideous to watch people die. He's talks about a man being thrown into. A wagon where he's dying. If he says if in some smothering dreams you to pace behind the wagon that we flung him in and watch the white is writhing in his face his hanging face like a devils. Sick of sin. If you could hear at every jolt, the blood come gargling from the froth corrupted lungs, obscene as cancer bitter as the cud of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues, my friend, you would not tell with such high zest to children ardent for some desperate glory the old lie. Dull she at the core. Messed Pro Patria Mori. So that you know, some of the poetry. It's a beautiful Bom in his fantastic Bom. So I if you wanna read stuff and talking about stuff, I like if you wanna read some wonderful stuff about World War One. It is well worth it to read the poem poetry that came out of it. Also, the wonderful patriotic bone that cannot at the very beginning. If I should I say only this me there is some corner of a foreign field. That is forever England. That was a beautiful poem at that those kinds of feelings of patriotism disappeared. Great book to read the great war, and modern modern memory by Paul you, sell or fuss me if you sell it is the great worn modern memories, a classic. I think it was published about twenty five years ago talks about the way the war infected our culture and infects our memory and our imagination still Thomas Mann's novel. Magic mountain it is not an easy novel. It is a philosophical novel to picks it it's told a about a to Berkeley ward TB ward, and is the story of TB ward. And basically comparing the Europe that comes before the war as a sick as a group of sick people, and it's a philosophical novel about the state of Europe kind of discussing why at why the war came almost as a relief to people because they went off with great great celebration. Great great patriotism, thinking they were going to brief battle that would be over in months and instead. Ed for years later, the entire civilization had been destroyed. And of course, the one of the most famous novels all quiet on the western front by Erich Maria remarked as a spectacular novel, an antiwar novel, and it was made into a beautiful film in the thirties that that just hammers home. This idea a young man goes off to war inspired by his professor who tells him about the iron men of valor. And how you have to die for your country. Sweeten, right? It is to die for your country. And then he comes back from the from the front, and he sees the professor saying this to people again saying this to the young men again in inspiring that to go to war, and he wanders into the class. And the professor says how wonderful that you're here. Now, you should inspire them. Tell them how wonderful it is to go to war. And here's a little bit of the scene from the wonderful nineteen thirty version of all quiet on the western front. Remember g to have a resume some touch of the hill helluva. I can't tell you anything. You don't know. Live in the trenches out there fight try not to be killed. Sometimes we are. That's all. No. No, paul. I've been I don't wanna. Like that's not from on. All I heard you here. Reciting that same old stop making more iron men. More young heroes. You still think it's beautiful and sweet to die for your country. Don't. We used to think you knew I bomb Fardon on us better. War. So terrible. So useless, so senseless than a change the world forever. And it's attitudes at gave power to the left. You know, we'd be you so much power that it even began the Soviet Union to give power to the left in its anti patriotism. And it's a sense that, you know, forces beyond our control were throwing us to death. It is a war. Well worth studying, and brilliant, brilliant things have been written about it. And really interesting things that need to be considered because the logic of war may be relentless. You may be that we can't avoid wars ultimately, but they can destroy everything. Everything good that we have a thank God for the soldiers who stand on guard, and hopefully prevent worse from happening with strength. But you know in thank God for their courage when they do have to go and fight just like as I said at the beginning. Just like we should think for the police who charge in to dangerous situations to protect not only are safety, but our rights as well. And we now go into the Cleveland last weekend. Please go on and listen to another kingdom when it becomes available tomorrow to all and subscribe to daily wire dot com. She can get the whole thing. But if you're not going to scribe he can't afford it. Please listen to another kingdom gone. I tunes and give us a five star review for those of you who survived the Cleveland this weekend. I know will be all of you. But for those happy few those lucky few who've come crawling back here will all gather on Monday. I'm Andrew klavan. This is the Andrew klavan show. 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"Hey guys you've heard of the young Turks podcast because you're listening to it right now but make sure you subscribe and give it a five star rating if you like it thank you for listening drop. Stop It. Welcome everybody as we close out this week and the Young Turks John Rolla Michael Israelis weakened the report Brooke is here and Aaron's back as well. We've been on panels before you're the host of hysteria the podcast on crooked media and thank you so so much for having me and I think you were recently. I guess I was and it was a lot of fun yeah. It was just <hes> not this past week with the week. It was fun so fun so for people who might not be familiar with the podcast what's it about it is a group of women talking about politics and their lives the way those two things intersect and sort of refuses to be stupid and it. It's a lot of fun we swear we tell stories we have a segment called the hills well Diane and Brooke talked about dogs eating out of human dishes for the hill that she will die on. I think it should could be a criminal offence. There will never be a time when that's not what burqas talking about the big issue <hes> although I did a poll in the audience and they thought it was perfectly fine because not everybody votes <hes> that's true people had so grossed out by the tweet they kept scrolling. Well look <hes> aside from just dog bowls. We also have a lot of politics that were to get to today. Including the latest on Acosta developments there we got a feud donald trump going after a former speaker of the house very entertaining stuff <hes> can clip in Steiner's delivered again with some exclusive video showing <hes> C._B._C._p.'s attempt to ingratiate themselves to local communities in a way that's barely disgusting so we'll show you that another plan from Elizabeth Warren and the latest on our Kelly lot that we're going to get through today as we go through these stories of course you can be both sending him messages if you're a member already were sending in tweets at Hashtag to I._T.. Live we'll be reading them during the breaks but with that why don't we jump into the news of the day Dot Com John. That's if they're not members. How would they have gotten this far and not been right but that's true if you've not either John or two dot com slash trial to get a free <hes> one week membership thank you? That's very nice dog bolts okay. Let's let's proceed with the news. Then there's been a lot of pressure mounting over the past week or so for Secretary Acosta to step down owing to his involvement in the about a decade ago sweetheart deal that <hes> billionaire financier Epstein I've seen got he of course is facing new charges and Acosta actually some developments as well we had been wondering was he going to bow to pressure Lazarus morning he and the president for the cameras and here's some of what's Donald Trump said in that case. I got a call this morning early from Alex and I think he did a very good job yesterday. Under a lot of pressure he did a fantastic job and he explained it. He made a deal that people are happy with and then twelve years later they're are not happy with it. You'll have to figure all that out and Alex called me this morning and he wanted to see me and I actually said well. We have depress right out here. So perhaps you just want to say to the rest but I just want to let you know this was was him not me because I'm with them. He was a tremendous talent. He's a Hispanic man. He went to harbored a great student at in so many ways. I just hate what he's saying now off. So one of my favorite things about the news today was <hes> for a while trending on twitter there was he's a Hispanic and when you click on it was basically just people saying I knew what this is going to be about before. I clicked on it. Although it seems so weird to describe grab a man that old is a great student. It just seems yeah yeah. I think the richer you are the longer you get to be. A boy okay. Is that how it will yeah and kind of he's he's going to be a boy. Tilles eighty okay got it. It just seems like he's a great student. Oh that was a long time so this is progress that he is going to step down will be replaced by some other troglodyte but he doesn't get to continue as secretary of Labor so victory. Yeah I guess yeah I think it's a victory because has yesterday when he did that really defensive presser. It was pretty clear that he didn't want to step down. He honestly believed that the real hero was himself and he didn't really think that he'd done anything wrong. He was trying to save his job and we didn't let up on him and that's why he decided to step down and so I do think it's a victory in a certain way until we find out who the next person is. I just think that this administration has been so just refusing to have anything to do with what the public says what a big portion portion of the public wants and says and screaming and the public one the normal people who believe that child rapists are bad they won and he stepped down after an embarrassing deal that he was a part of. I'm surprised it wasn't really embarrassing. It was full on illegal and predatory and evil in ways that are sort of unfathomable as the story has unfolded. I keep thinking how how does it keep getting worse. How does it keep involving being more and more people that absolutely should have nothing to do with child sex trafficking? How are this many people able to be involved in something? There was a secret for so long. It's it's crazy to me actually and related to that. I want to say one more thing about that lasted before that just in case you have not been following the developments for Epstein of the past week. Epstein was charged on Monday with sex trafficking conspiracy and prosecutors allege that he molested dozens of girls as young as fourteen in a sex trafficking operation that ran from at least two thousand and two to two thousand five but by the way a since this story has reentered the public consciousness at least a dozen new victims have come forward to claim they were sexually abused by Jeffrey Epstein. Even as the multimillionaire money manager tries to convince a federal judge to allow him to await a sex trafficking trial from the comfort of the same seventy seven million dollar mansion in Manhattan where he's accused of luring teenage girls and unwanted sex acts so there are a lot of new victims but we already knew about a lot of victims for some time and that's why although we are going to have a cost video in just a second what trump said there is horrible and Donald Trump seems to have some sort of biological inability to ever not be an a-hole because what he said there. was you know it was a dozen years ago. It was a deal people were happy with another not happy who who who was happy literally the only people were matters if they were happy with that deal are the victims the children who were raped they weren't happy and they weren't even told about it until it was already done all of that. We've known for a long time. Donald Trump knew that before he spoke this morning and yet even though Augusta stepping down he still felt the need to imply that this Guy Epstein who he says he's not a fan of. He says he doesn't respect there was a fine deal. You know we spent a couple of hours a night in jail for a year that seems fine and commensurate after you raped dozens of women he does oh no I was just going to I was just going to say <hes> another thing is that Donald Trump does this in the context of men that he likes being accused of crimes specifically against women he cannot resist the urge is to support a man who has been accused of victimizing women from the White House staffer who was accused of <hes> Rob Portman beating his two of his wives and you know a wreck cavanaugh and the list just goes on and on and actually I believe one of his early cabinet nominees had to step down because they were engaged in a high profile domestic violence cases well and trump still supported him. He's never met a man who abuses women and his white that he won't side with that is just that's his brand at this point and I'm not surprised but I'm always a little disappointed by it well. Why don't we move to a cost is going to give a little bit more about the decision that he made to step down over the last week? I've seen a lot of Harvard Department of Labor and what have not seen is incredible job creation that we've seen in this economy more than five million jobs. I have seen part of this case that is over twelve years old that had input and bedding. Being at multiple levels of Department of Justice and as I look forward I do not think it is right and fair for this administration Labor Department to have Epstein as the focus rather than the incredible economy that we hap- today and so all the president this morning I told him that I thought the right thing was to step aside. Cabinet positions are temporary trust. It would be selfish for me to stay in this disposition and continue talking about a case of twelve years old rather than about the amazing economy we have right now so I submitted my resignation to the president and so again we're sort of getting a victory here but on the way out Donald Trump at a cost that want to make sure that you know that they're not doing this because they get that people are frustrated with the cost of holding a position of power after he went out of his way to help a billionaire avoid consequences for his crimes. They're only doing it because you fools. Fools are obsessed with old stuff and you can't move on from a twelve year old thing and people were happy then why he could play now he likes to appear in control trump like comparing. He likes to appear. Excuse me in control of the situation and even if it's a bad situation because if Akasa ends up saying something about how trump is ridiculous and it pops up in some book in some interview. Someone says he said it will get all the nasty tweets about how he was horrible. He was dumb. That's why he had to be fired. I heard it happens every time with somebody. That's on the next block to another person but it happens yeah. It happens everytime you'd never even know. I don't even know if he believes what he's saying. Nothing is the truth. Here's what I wonder. Where's Mike Pence and why aren't we giving him a lot more crap about this because he's still he's he's stood by a person who is morally erupt reprehensible for his entire career as vice president but now he's actually kind of quietly trying to blend even with the wallpaper when this going on when his boss is yet again defending someone who is actually involved in helping them get off for trafficking children so it's it's like you know we I in the midst of all of this? I think it's easy to you. Pay attention to the loudest voice to pay attention to Donald Trump braying tweeting but let's also pay attention to the people trying to just be quiet and hope this passes them by the respectable Republicans who are conservatives who you know wear crosses on their lapels and yet their findings all of this yeah yeah sort of I guess sort of relate to that I mean certainly you have the his aides and all the people in the White House that were I mean some of them had been there since the Rob Portman thing and they stood by their they they watched as you pointed out with Brad Kavanagh Allan Donald trump not only spoke out in defense of Kavanagh but in front of cheering crowds of ten thousands of tens of thousands of people with red hats <hes> slut shamed Christine Blasi Ford as if it was some sort of fun joke to pretend that she's been making this up for literally decades <hes> and there are a lot of people standing by allowing that can continue many of them Republicans but some Democrats who don't necessarily want a lot of scrutiny on Donald Trump right now I would put Nancy Pelosi at the top of that list she too. I think is hoping to sort of just you know back up into a Bush Josh and then in a year and a half. Hey we won the White House. Suddenly I can supposedly do my job right yeah. You know that's an interesting thing about. I've seen I've seen was an avowed Democrat for a lot of his life. He gives a lot of money to democratic causes and he just seemed to like rich people. He wasn't really one one thing or the other but anyway he hung with Bill Clinton a lot. I'm sure there are a lot of people in both parties who are very established who don't want this Epstein thing to drag out anymore because they will be implicated someone they know we'll be implicated and they will be or they'll be implicated in knowing more and not not doing anything about it yeah well. What what are we turn to one more video from that? Donald Trump wants to make sure that you know he doesn't get the blame. I guess for a cost of being pushed out. He's making clear that it's a cost is decision but also does not want any connection whatsoever to Epstein himself self and considering some things that he said about him in the past there have been lingering questions including this morning as you'll see I was not a fad of Jeffrey and you watch people yesterday saying that I throw them out of a club I didn't want anything to do with that was many many years ago. It shows you one thing that I have good taste. Okay now other people they went all over with they went to his island. They went all over the place. He was very well known in Palm Beach his Thailand. Whatever this island was wherever it is I was never there find out the people that went to the island but Jeffrey Epstein was not somebody that I respected? I threw him out okay so he's been sticking with this. I haven't talked to him for fifteen years. I don't know that there's evidence that he has spoken with them or had a relationship with him. Since then so it's possible that that's true but he's I think he's trying to have too much with this defense. I mean it's one thing I just say I didn't talk to him after two thousand three or two thousand and five whenever it is but to pretend that I was never a fan of him I mean you talked about being friends with them. For fifteen years you praised him not in general but specifically for the things he did that turned out to be <music> highly criminal that was the area of his life that Donald Trump always praised him on and said that we seem to have a great taste for these beautiful women he likes him really young. According to Roger Stone he commented on seeing a swimming pool full of what looked like the neighborhood the kids at his house and he liked he praised his social life in his words. Yeah not only were you friends and it was of course at some point. Maybe you didn't respect him but you hung out with him so you didn't respect yourself enough to hang out with someone that you didn't respect and hang out with them mm-hmm so tough that at one point reportedly youtube where the only guest at a party with twenty eight women brought in to entertain them entertainment which is discussed. Let's not forget that trump himself ran in modeling agency at one point as well. That had some kind of do. We're not really exactly sure how that immigration thing worked in what the models are actually doing and how successful they actually became but I also think trump told on himself a little bit here when you said that you know he was in he was well known in West Palm Beach people were going to this island so so did trump also know that this stuff was going on and didn't say anything because that's what it sounds like he's admitting that Oh yeah everybody knew about this. Everybody knew this guy was famous but I didn't like him because I have good taste well then. Why did you tell anybody good? Taste is telling the police if you know that there's somebody trafficking children's or your neighborhood even if he buy his explanation that he wasn't friends with upstate which I don't buy and it's of course nonsense. I mean you know that I'm going to go to a party with where for me and that other person or the only people and I'm not a fan of them then. Why are you going to the party with them? Why are you bringing in dozens of models to dance for you and this guy who you don't respect and you're not a fan of but that's a very difficult <hes> I guess facade to try and maintain it was like as sexy gladiator fight to the death situation where the models all in circle you and you both fight until one of you guys <hes> I'd buy tickets that sounds pretty and the thing is again like I feel the need to sail this? It shouldn't it should be a needless caveat but we don't know that Donald trump necessarily did anything wrong except apparently he knew that things were going on and he just let it continue which is bad enough by itself. If you know that someone is breaking the law especially exploiting children especially sexually the owners should be on you as a human let alone up to many millions of Americans. The I guess the Avatar of God himself the the owners should be on you to do something about it. Not only should you be a person who should do something about it. You should also be a person who wouldn't want to hire the man who orchestrated rated this person essentially getting jail exactly for a few months yeah and then on top of it though none of this is proof of anything but now this just put out a video I think yesterday great video of all the things that Donald Trump has said about young girls girls over the past few decades any talks about the first time he saw Perez Hilton at twelve and he commented on who who the hell was that like that she was twelve and he already thought she was a great beauty world class beauty and it just time after time after time a lot of times and he was so confident that he was saying on camera in front of other people he's bragging about it with Howard Stern about how he'd see a fourteen year old and thinking a few years I'll be dating them or a couple years. Sometimes he'd say he talked about some seventeen eighteen year old who is trying to be a flight attendant or something and he asked did she have any experience and he's told known he's like higher. She's seventeen just really weird pattern of behaviors that make it a little bit more difficult for you to spin continuing story that you've never. Never been involved in any of this stuff. You're viscerally opposed to anyone who was well then. Why have you been bragging about? How hot you think kids are this whole time getting not proof of anything and we'll have to wait to find out okay <hes> we do have to move on though we're GonNa take a short break? We come back FEUD BETWEEN DONALD TRUMP BOB and Paul Ryan were known comes out the winner. Welcome back to the first hour of the young Turks. I'm John joined by Erin and broken. We Wanna read some of your comments for return of the news. <hes> Gabby Morita said why is this administration is just a swarm with predators domestic abusers and outright criminals the fish routes from the head <hes> yeah we found a lot of them. <hes> and occasionally have been pushed out but nothing really much else beyond that as happened for them. Collecting miscellany says the cost of listened to widespread public calls criticizing him and has now resigned Donald Trump. It's time to follow his lead. I would not wait for that especially with no pressure from the president though because if you add the president you tweet adding maybe he'll see it and be like yeah good point right. Let's see Eddie. O'Donnell says once again trump paints himself offers pure as the driven snow which is just. That's that's a tough. That's a tough task. If that's your job and that's what he's trying to go with <hes> let's see anomaly out says because twelve years after none of those women could possibly still have nightmares P._T._S._d.. Find themselves ourselves losing jobs of rules posted on the Internet none. None of them are suffering yeah yeah and I mean I didn't watch every minute of that press conference but I didn't get from either of them any lingering concern for the women who are exploited yes yes I have been ruined by. This can't empathize with women they are more they can only they don't see women as human and they don't see women who in any way accepted money for sex as human at all. I didn't watch the presser all the way either because I have a hard time looking at Alex Acosta's face the bad face about no. It's not a good face but you're right. There is absolutely no contrition whatsoever. Your what you said was right. They feel like they can't <hes> have sympathy for a woman because that is as your role being abused being treated like that your role but oh my goodness. This man lost his job. Oh now I have a job yeah yeah and as you pointed out I mean Donald Trump used to host these sorts of shows he and Molly Agency and he'd he'd used them for personal pleasure like walking in on them when they're changing seeing underage girls and things like that like the idea that that guy is going to have a lot of empathy for women who are suffering is hard to believe but with that why don't we jump back into the News Um Paul Ryan was just the worst he's moved on but the memory of how bad he was speaker of the House continues and it's being dredged up because he was interviewed for recent book talking about the trump administration and the comments that he made about Donald Trump have drawn the ire of Donald Trump. Here are a few of the things Paul Ryan said this is for Tim Alberta's american-carnage. He said we've gotten so numbed by at all not in government but we're we live our lives. We have a responsibility to try and rebuild. Don't call the woman a horse face. Don't cheat on your wife. Don't cheat on anything. Be a good person set a good example so that I mean that should I would count that as like criticism of the president like yeah you should not call women horseface. I mean he's not the pointing out that he cheated on his wife and all that <hes> there's GonNa be more comments but that one right there probably by itself would have been enough to get donald trump to do is tweet storm. I would guess Yeah Against Paul Ryan Guy Already near the end of his time in Congress he was not a fan of love. What happened does not deserve to have people be fans of him because he's the worst he's the worst? He's the limp noodle of democracy. I WanNa know how many trees had to die in order to print this book that proves that Paul Ryan was born without the spine how many trees I feel bad for the trees. I I know my goodness yeah. I knew that he was just yeah this no I that was one of my Halloween costumes. Actually Oh that's a good thing I'm sure so so you pointed out that he was the worst so to you looking back on the time when Paul Ryan was speaker of the House who was he. What did he accomplish? Nothing absolutely nothing he's successfully convinced some of the Washington press corps that he was BRAINIAC Walk Without having any receipts seats any accomplishments any good ideas as from these sort of anecdotal stories of standing around a keg and talking about taking Medicare away from people. This is a big loser bro who found himself in way over his head and when he finally got a chance to prove that he as capable or not capable he proved that he was inept and then he kinda tried to fade away and now he's GonNa make a lot of money on speaking fees because the world isn't fair tax cuts this this this is also like the Spiderman name it is two men telling link the truth about each other after they've somewhat supported each other well. We're GONNA get into both sides so that you'll see we'll judge if trump is being honest with them <hes> if you are interested in wasting some more trees I actually I don't know anything about the book but America's carnage by Politico's Tim Alberta Depicts the Republican Party that I struggled with trump's rise during the campaign before gradually coming to terms as president. It's totally actually have no idea where the book comes out on Donald Trump <hes> but I do want to give you a little bit more <hes> from Paul Ryan. I told myself I got to have have a relationship with this guy talking about trump to help him get his mind right because I'm telling you he didn't know anything about government. I wanted to scold him all the time so I I mean first of all who doesn't know that Donald Trump didn't know anything about government and and if this is the criticism that you've been sort of holding your back pocket until you're out of office the spotlight's off of you I would rate this as light criticism yeah why why is he. Why is Paul Ryan sounding like me dating really bad guys in my my twenties like I can change him? He's terrible but I can. I can be the one to fix them. Nobody's fixed. Donald trump is an eighty year old man. He is who he is and that's all. Let's who's always going to be back. Comparison actually sort of continues in this next comment Paul said those us around him really helped to stop him from making bad decisions all the time we helped to make much better decisions which were contrary to kind of what his knee jerk reaction was now. I think he's making some of these knee jerk reactions. This is so he understands stands trump better than other people and he stopped him from chugging paint. I don't know he made him a better guy. It's also unfair like I didn't do anything when it matters but now that I don't have that option anymore. I want you all to wake me so now I'm gonNA pretend like I didn't turn a blind eye and help this awful man. Get there and fully support him in and not really care about any of you but I want you all. I WANNA make money. I want you to watch me. I want you to see me. I want you to read me whatever else he has planned <hes> it's just unfair because this is the same thing over and over and over again. I knew it was bad all along. I just didn't do anything about it didn't say anything about it. Yeah I believe in forgiveness generally speaking but I think all of these people who work alongside trump who enable him and then kind of want to come back and have a career as a pundit have a book be somebody that gives speeches to colleges and not an isn't protested <hes> they should have to go to an island for like the amount of time that they worked under trump before they're able to reenter reenter society like you can reenter but you gotta go to trump island for like two years and then maybe we'll talk. They seem to think that it's enough to after I think they should have to stay using them to stay. There are babies in cages. Stay True Yeah Yeah. He thinks he's spent you know six months or whatever <hes> in the darkness I haven't seen much from him and now he comes out with this baby. He was just interviewed us being honest but it could be that he's trying to make his re entry. I don't know maybe wants to be on chuck. Todd's show maybe sees a an interview on Bill Maher in his feature something up but there is a risk as well for Paul Ryan and that is that if you say anything negative about Donald Trump. It doesn't matter what he said about you in the past. He's GonNa come after you and look this is is really light criticism but it did use the term knee-jerk and there's a chance that trump thinks that's an insult so here's what he said on twitter Paul Ryan the failed V._p.. Candidate and former speaker of the House who's record of achievement was atrocious except during my years President present because he has to imply that those years were good he has to ultimately became a long running lame duck failure leaving his party in the Lurch as a fundraiser and leader when Mitt chose Paul. I told people that's the end of the presidential run. He quit Congress. Because he didn't know how to win. Capitalize they gave me standing os in the great state of Wisconsin and booed him off the stage. He promised me the wall and failed happening anyway because again. All these failures are really bad but don't mean anything because trump's still gonna win he had had the majority and blew away with this poor leadership. Bad timing never knew how to go after the DEM's like they go after US couldn't get him out of Congress fastest. I mean the funny thing there is that Paul Ryan by the time they lost the majority Paul Ryan had already announced his retirement months and months before the the leader of the party. Even the self identified leader was Donald Trump and the Democrats ran against Donald Trump. They weren't going around the country talking about Paul Ryan so if anything dude look in the mirror if you WANNA know how they lost the majority well right and let's talk about Wisconsin -Sconsin. That's my home state. Let's talk about what happened. Wisconsin in two thousand eighteen because trump was doing these rallies all over the place and Wisconsin very decisively turned to democrats. We elected a democratic governor. Despite the Gerrymandering we made some gains in the State House. We elected Tammy. Baldwin like Wisconsin is on the up and up and part of it is because people are mad about Donald Trump. They don't really like them. They don't like him as much as they did. In Two thousand sixteen and that's just continuing to go down like this because for reasons that I cannot ascertain people in Wisconsin do still it. Kinda like Paul Ryan really a little bit and that was one of the important states Alaska rounded on the Donald Trump is going to need to hold onto yeah and I doubt his chances because he cannot he cannot resist being a bull in a China shop no matter where he does well considering how so much financial damage <hes> Paul Ryan did to the country in passing those tax cuts even though he said that they were always going to be revenue neutral and then he came to that almost instantly and it represented trillions of dollars going to <hes> to welcome people didn't need the money <hes> just because of that I want to read just one or two more the attacks against against them. The criticism went on into the press conference with trump saying Paul Ryan was not a talent he was no leader. You wouldn't get subpoenas when Nancy Pelosi Hans that out like their cookies he was unable to raise money. He lost control the House. The only success Paul Ryan had was the time he was with me and the thing is I just wanted to like to close off the loop. It never really means anything IF DONALD TRUMP criticizes someone or compliments them because the criticisms and accomplishments are so contingent on how does he we feel right then nothing ever matters I mean he said he has a record of failure except the two years with me but previously back in April of two thousand Eighteen Donald Trump tweeted speaker Paul Ryan is a truly good man and while he will not be seeking reelection he will leave a legacy of achievement that nobody can question. We're with you Paul well a year later. Nobody questioned and that nobody was donald trump with them anymore. Though honestly like this this lovely of lovers quarrel or whatever I I'm trying to imagine if female politicians talked to in about each other like this the ridiculous sexist words that would be slung back and forth in the media but how they're acting first of all to be clear. Nobody should be acting like super unprofessional. Nobody should be talking about their former. Colleagues like this. Maybe Donald Trump. I mean but it's this is this is totally unprofessional. Unbecoming behavior. It's unnecessary and it's so it's sort of making me think maybe men or too emotional to lead is that we you ready for a male president. Can their emotions handle it. I expect a bench monologue about what you just said. Okay well. That's why don't we turn to Ken clip inside and had a great find that I wanNA show people right. Now is not a great time for ice the border patrol those sorts of agencies are developing a bit of a bad reputation and so to some extent they kind of need to ingratiate themselves a local communities and they do that sometimes in good ways sometimes news and bad ways <hes> Ken Clifford Stein to investigates was sent an exclusive video showing event where the EP was doing some work to try to get along better with the local community including with kids so take a look at what was revealed in writing the more livable yeah so if it's not clear what that was that was <hes> officers of the C._D._p.. Teaching a kid hey wouldn't it be fun if you knew how to break down doors with a battering ram the way we do and so the kid learns and has fun pretending to bus down a door. That's cute no horrifying like what what do you want. This little kid to be little little fascist. It's like because boy scouts are too liberal now so they're gonNA start a little fascist club. I'm I'm truly upset and confused at the cruelty displayed by the customs and Border Patrol will <hes> there the between the seal the collective coin that was passed around making fun of my migrants over the last in the facebook groups over super misogynists that thousands of members were part of it seems like just a purely early poisonous culture and it seems like this is just another mark against them. It is always going to be wild to me what the links that people are willing to go to. I guess get back at who they feel are their enemies by using children children like we saw all of those kids at trump rallies. We still see it all those kids with horrible t shirts on saying horrible things. We see you know that the little kid that they have dress in mocking A._F._C.. The child who doesn't doesn't seem old enough to even understand what she's doing and now this child who may not be old enough to participate in an actual ice raid but we'll go back to school and be able to mult any kid not saying this kid specifically but this type of behavior in this rhetoric that does make its way into schools where there are little brown kids where there are other kids whose parents fight against this who learned these things who say these things and I don't know I just think about there racism in nastiness. That's already running rampant through elementary school so that's all that kid looked and it's an adult I 'cause. I can't think of what possibly could have been. I didn't hear you know audio. I didn't hear the speech given before this why this kid needed to know oh this why this was something cool for a kid what their actual excuse was but it's gross. I can't think of anything good. I think the context that the there may be trying to okay there are two different possible context right so maybe oh we're breaking down a door and we're getting out undocumented people who are just kind of peacefully in a home that is that's a messed up thing to teach a kid to do but it's also messed up to be like hey we're breaking into this place full of crimes where you could get shot at like every scenario where a kid would be pretending to use a battering ram. It's something that a kid should not be thinking about or embodying anyway yeah and of course I mean what if you're thinking about doors being busted down by a battering Ram right now in our political context when you thinking about probably the massive raids that DONALD TRUMP CBS says they're going to deport literally millions of people. I mean especially when a border patrol exactly yeah is teaching. It's likely that I mean that's absurd and it would be far too expensive and far too complicated. They're not actually going to do it but the goal is there and so right now like that's the context of this exists and I'm sure that there are some people in these agencies that care about law and order whatever it or not driven by misogyny racism. I guess but like you got to know who you're working for right now now and while these agencies do have job at hypothetically can do good is that is that what Donald Trump and Stephen Miller are using them for right now. Is that the goal the goal isn't just order and then there's some suffering unfortunately it's we want suffering. We want cruelty. We want to scare people away from coming here and to do that like Stephen. Miller isn't going to be mistreating these kids unless he's got some sort of personal relationships with one of these facilities I don't know about they're going to do it and so whether you sign. Up for ice or the border patrol because you care about security in this country you are a tool of oppression and suffering right now just by the very nature of the administration that controls you and you mentioned the coins. Obviously video was was terrible thanking whoever it was send into Ken and Ken with great right up about it onto dot com but there are other issues like if we could skip ahead you're GonNa see this coin which somebody made and has been sending around and you can you can keep that up on the front. You're seeing <hes> keep the caravans coming under an image of a massive prayed of people carrying one Honduran flag coins reverse side features the border patrol logo and three illustrations one of a border patrol agent bottle feeding an infant an agent fingerprinting a teen boy wearing a backwards baseball cap and a U._S.. Border Patrol van with tech saying Feeding Processing Hospital Transport government officials told Propublica the coin was not approved or paid for by the government one custom and border patrol official who is not authorized to give his name characterize. The coin is something that somebody's doing on their free time comparing it to woodworking and in fact these coins have been found at places in California and in Texas so all over the place and they were promoted coded by that great facebook group that made news a couple of weeks ago right somebody having this in their pocket is not simply doing their job. They're not simply. Just you know they have to be there. They have a job. That's not someone who just cares about law and order earn who cares about people. Why would you have that in your pocket very very lame right? You're extremely lame. I can think of nothing lamer than making a custom coin designed to victimize and make fun of migrants who are suffering so lame where PA you want to make pogs trade pogs. Where do these people doing? What kind of person like I said before? What kind of person wants to work in a place like that yeah exactly and I mean the issue really I think is is the culture I mean in that propublica report where they talked about that facebook group they also talked about like you see not only the worst kinds of racism in the messages that were postal there but also crazy violent and sexual misogyny as well and they said that that some of these agencies have have a heart have had a hard time getting women to join up for a long time because of how baked in the misogyny is in those groups and so even if you're even if you're one of these people that just want security or whatever you get in there and you're going to be surrounded by a lot of people who are going to be you telling racist jokes saying horrific things about women migrants and all that and we also can't forget about the effect of the leadership because we just found out a new detail about the leadership of this organisation Korla Provost who's the Border Patrol chief she had released east a statement expressing outrage after it was reported that current and former agents made phobic misogynistic and racist comments in that facebook group turns out she was a member of the group which did not make it into her statement condemning it just a couple of weeks ago? She somehow somehow forgot to mention that she had not only been part of the group that had posted in it. Previously I WANNA make a glass ceiling joke about how no women can be as big of jerks as men but I'm too tired tired. It'll it'll wear you out yeah okay. We're GONNA take our second break when we come back. We've got a new immigration plan from Elizabeth Warren a break that down as well as the most recent updates the legal struggle for R Kelly. We hope you're enjoying this free clip from the young Turks. If you WANNA get the whole show and more exclusive content while supporting independent media become a member of dot com slash joined today in the meantime enjoy this free segment welcome to the first hour of the young seventy four we jumped back into. Do you want to read some comments. First from the members. Toothless busboy says why didn't Paul Ryan have the energy when he was a speaker congressman. That's true although so obviously I wish that this entire time more of the Republicans in power had stood up to Donald Trump and if I if they done it early on it might have worked but I mean after he's president I sort of get it that that is a rabid crazy group of people and literally every one of the Republican side who has even just been like by the way this seems kind of wrong. They're thrown out of the party instantly set on fire so great because sort of get it. Ah I get it might be ice raids like you should still doing. You should want to be kicked out of the party that does what they're doing at the border right. Now you should want that. You should not want to be a part of the party that since their Justice Department to argue the kids don't deserve soap in toothpaste right like yes. You should want that. You're funding. It's a terrible situation to look. They're doing all of this just for their jobs on the other people fighting for their actual lives. It's just so you can keep your job. You're cool job. I'm not saying it's cool like it's absurd. I don't understand it at all. You got to be a better person. Superfast question because Dennis says Paul Ryan wants to be president. That's why walked and I kind of agree. I think he wants to run again and he thinks head down trump eventually succumbed to all the big MACs everything and then I can come back and be president you shouldn't want to be I agree but if you're Paul Ryan what do you do. Paul Ryan will vote for your party or crazy yeah. Paul Ryan is not that exciting. I and I think that the post trump era for better for worse people will not settle for candidates that are in some way exciting. It's why the Peop- The that's Y Commonly Harris and Elizabeth Warren are mounting such a challenge to the party establishment in the polls. I think both of them are much more exciting to watch listen to than like Joe Biden <hes> and and I think that Paul Ryan wants to go back to a time that doesn't doesn't exist. I never will exist again. We're never going to have another boring president for better for worse president and when we do when we talk about lake <hes> Oh this is their job. They want to stay there. It's not really about sure part of this is about wanting to keep his job in congress at that moment wanting to maybe be president in the future but there is still a part of this that he supported this. He sat back and did nothing because this is of this. I don't believe that you go this far. Aren't you sit back and do nothing and that you supported in that you let it slide until it's time for you to <hes> you can use it use speaking out against it is only for your advantage if you don't go along with any of this unless you don't vote for it you don't support it. You don't work for it. You don't go along with with any of this unless it is a little bit apart of you. I mean that's really I think that's the main reason why he went along with all of this because this is him yeah I totally agree and bear in mind I mean who in terms of thinkers philosophers who does he like he likes and rand friend who might be one of the only people crazier than trump actually would've hated Paul Ryan. Let's just reflect on how much Iran would we hated Paul Ryan. She was very very pro pro abortion. She was beyond pro choice pro abortion so she wouldn't hated him. One thing I I think that is a problem for the spineless members of the Republican Party is I think people over a certain age don't mentally know how to process social media and so they think that twitter is real life. It's why it's why like half of Brad Stevens columns exist like they think that twitter is real. They don't understand that there's a disconnect between blowback on social media and actual real life blowback most real Americans in most parts of the country are not constantly glued to twitter. They're not it's it's and so when people get mad at you want social media if you if you critique the president of the President tweets you so turn off your computer and walkaway. It's it'll be you might have a few days. Where you're mentioned are a mess but it's okay? It's not real life and I think that there's a whole demographic of people mostly over fifty who don't understand twitter isn't real until they're afraid to confront somebody who might inspire twitter blowback. I don't think you'd find anybody in this building. Who knows that twitter isn't real? I'm wondering if like there's a certain doctor you went to that helped. You come to this because I'd like to go. We'll see what happens. There's you say something. That's maybe a little bit wrong and a bunch of people come for you. You can just kind of you know that you can step away and shut it off. It doesn't trauma and you show me how after okay okay. Oh yes ninety six. They don't tweet about politics some more than that read tweets about politics but only about four percent actually post tweets about politics. We love you guys do everybody who knew messages us but it is a very self selected group it's. One of the most self selected groups that engages in the sort of way in a public way but with that why don't we jump into one more story. We don't have much time but I do want to talk about this. Just a couple of weeks ago. We had the first debates and I've actually noticed that since then I feel you like the candidates have sort of been keeping a low profile. There was the flare up between Biden and Harris but there hasn't been a lot of really like bold new ideas that I've seen considering how many candidates are that have come out in the time since then but we do have one that we want to talk about that and that is Elizabeth Warren finally releasing using her <hes> ideas of what she would do on immigration. She's did it in the way that she's released a lot of these <hes> on a detailed post on medium. That's available if you want to read and get a lot more details about it but there's some highlights from the plan that we wanNA talk about <hes> some are the sorts of ideas and a lot. We're talking about some <hes>. I'm sure she's GonNa get hard debate questions about <hes> so let's talk about a few of these I as president she says I will immediately issue guidance to end criminal prosecutions for simple administrative immigration violations and operation streamline streamline which subjects migrants prosecutions and refocus our limited resources on actual criminals and real threats to the United States so there's a few things there but the biggest and probably the one to get the most headlines out of this to the extent that headlines will ever be generated by policy discussions <hes> is that they will she does plan to decriminalize border crossings. A great idea shouldn't be treating people like murderers because they want to save their lives they want. Nobody wants to leave their homes. Nobody wants to leave their homes and it's just such is the way it's set up right now. It's awful there are people who are trying to do it. The league away and get stopped. They get blocked. They're not able to and I just don't think crossing the border illegally should put you in what amounts ounce to a prison and you find yourself drinking water out of a toilet right. Oh it should be a civil offense like yes. Nobody should be thrown in handcuffs or shackled and taken away from their breastfeeding baby. No yes I mean that seems logical. She also in the plan she also wanted to make it so that the that violating the law by crossing the border wasn't going to be something that was a strike against you when you tried to become a citizen which is a novel idea. It's already very hard hard to become a citizen and that's the kind of garbage reason to not allow somebody to go through the process. Some of the some more details I'll issue guidance ensuring the detention is only used where it's actually necessary because an individual poses a flight where safety risk I will put additional additional layers of protection in place for certain groups including asylum seekers families and pregnant women and l._G._B._T._Q.. Plus people who are more vulnerable in General Detention Facility Anil enforced strict standards from remaining detention facilities including medical care and and to end the use of solitary confinement l. end the contracts has with private detention providers and push for legislation to permanently banned for profit detention so I don't know for sure built into that if she would also oppose a for profit prisons. I have a feeling that she's already on the record about that but I like that. She's tied together this sort of holistic view how we reform detention facilities now actually making them relatively safe especially for groups that are being the most victimized right now trying to make sure that people were only only in it for the money or not getting contracts increasing contracts under Donald Trump from ice and eventually pushing the ban them all together seems like changes that was one of my favorite parts of the plan which I read in its entirety <hes> it was a I think that there is also so a part of the plan <hes> shortly after that talks about holding people accountable for cruelties committed during the trump years which I thought was a very bold and kind of appeal to my angry side about what's going on because Brooke. You seem like you're not very happy about what's going on here. There's a part of me that wants you see these people who are taking babies away from their MOMS punished and Warren suggests that we maybe should consider doing that yeah. I think that's a great idea and you really I mean we there's never any consequences for anything but that that woman provost who is you know chief of Border Patrol like what else was she posting in that group and what else does she know. She was willing to lie about her presence in that group. What else might you know about what's going on in Border Patrol Kirsten Nielsen who you know she put up sort of token resistance and some of these policies like how involved once she this entire time I fear fear that the best we ever hope for is to get these people out of their positions and then once they move on we just forget about them but they were in a position to do something and some might have Stephen Miller at some point? We need to look into what he's actually said about these policies in government communications. We'll talk about that. I think we talk about this all the time like when we talk about <hes> like yesterday we were talking about the story about the kids who spray painted all of the racist and homophobic stuff tough on the school property right and how when those kids that don't get caught they become lawyers they become people who approve Lisa's and people who approve mortgages and sometimes some of these people become people who force women to drink water out of a toilet who those coins in their pockets who do horrible things to kids who don't push back against the system that everybody sees is wrong and they're doing it out loud in the open proud <unk> I yeah they should these people should be punished because if not they will continue to have power that harms people in obviously these people are not right. There's something's wrong yeah at the very least you feel like the first step in getting to that point is is is disrupting the structure that allows that to happen and that's what Warren's plan pretty <hes>. It's it's it tries to do it so it goes a little bit broader <hes>. Let's just a little bit more about this. She says a reverse trump's bigoted Muslim ban on my first stay in office. I'll withdraw the trump policy that forces immigrant families to choose between staying together and ensuring their children have access to critical services and I'll reinstate temporary protected status designations and deferred enforced departure to protect individual individuals at home when they're risking their home countries including migrants from the Caribbean and Africa who have built lives and businesses in our country feel like pretty much every one to two months we find out that some temporary extension of protections for particular group is going to lapse and we have a minor crisis where we try to figure out our twenty thousand people going to be deported because Donald Trump is in the mood to extend it so hopefully we can avoid some of that show also by the way wants to massively increase in a number of refugees. We'll take each year starting at one hundred twenty five thousand and moving on up to one hundred and seventy five thousand from the current thirty thousand per year. That trump is allowing. I'm surprised season has a number size that so <hes> these are I think are all perfectly reasonable. <hes> components of the plan and there is far more there. You can go to medium to see her post. One thing that I think is important though is not just that that you'll one candidate Elizabeth Warren has this plan but I have noticed that even within the span of just the first few months this primary the candidates do seem to be learning from each other they do seem to be incorporating elements of each other's proposals and and to the extent that only a few the candidates are really putting out detailed proposals that might make it a little bit more likely that some of these ideas will become more commonplace throughout you know that long list of candidates yeah. I think that that's definitely the case and I've been I. I found it very refreshing. How clean the primary has been so far? There's been only a couple of moments where it seems like people have been swiping at each other but otherwise it's all been policy and people trying to get their names out there and and representing themselves rather than tearing other people down in that's nice yeah and also <hes> there are a few candidates have immigration plans that are relatively detailed that you can see. I think it's probably like less than a quarter of those out there but while this one looks pretty good now that it's on the books other candidates that want to differentiate themselves who might be willing to take a bolder stance on these issues now they have a target that they can shoot for and there are candidates like Leon Castro work they they more than some of the others have tried to make immigration as sort of center piece of their candidacy now they have something to compete against. Maybe it'll drive them to move that next step forward in the same way that we've seen in some in the case of <hes> mainly healthcare policy and environmental policy so far in the primary. <hes> looks like we're out of time though thank you for joining us I I know that <hes> and is going to be coming up and Itis here. Is there a third person. I think just because you're too so it's going to be awesome second hour. They've got some great stories. <hes> as we said earlier people can see you or listen to you on hysteria and recently the episode where you had Brooklyn so that should be a lot of work and they find that <hes> you can just find that on any place that you listen to your podcast then brooks names right in the title of her episodes so if you wanna see more broke she'll be on the damage Puerto Monday. Yeah Plug your own.

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It's Friday July twelfth two thousand nineteen from slaves the Gist I might ask the question you've been asking about me so far is of course what are my pronouns officially there and and other inhumane or some such who's to say which pronouns most everybody watching us for themselves. They're six pronouns in the preceding sentence although really five based on how I use them because most is a modifier the fire but it can also be used as a pronoun whom so is also a pronoun. It's the objective case of who so I shall now use who so in a sentence. Let's say we're talking about the avengers movie and you know the very few people knew that iron man might die or not you would ask <unk> who so new the brothers Russo new now logically if there is a whom so there has to be or should be a her so in a him so though there's never been so but if there's a him so maybe there should also be they they so which brings us to the Pronoun does your they. This is the big pronoun that where Pronoun all talking about Farhadi Manjoo running in the New York Times says that he wants to be called. They sorry they wanna be called all day kind of weird when you think about it. This is a good point that the first thing you identify a person as is their gender of course should be the high school they went to no seriously by fixating on gender a places a fairly huge amount of importance on gender. I think amount of importance that we're generally trying to get past and be might not even be right. You know your assumption may be wrong so rather than assume or buy into gender norms or binary. He's far hawed as a male ally. I guess they would say says call me now. You might be saying Mike when you just said I guess they say they say. Who Do you mean but you'd be wrong task? Ask that because it's whom do you mean but I get the point. I'm not against changing the language to make a point to advance a cause to get something right where something is wrong but I think they have a problem. They they is the problem in in my opinion the tendering or D. `gendering project may have a tough time achieving its goals because the word that they picked they is already in common use common common use the gay community using gay or queer community adopting Queer those are examples of CO option of words that were already in use. Maybe they're also depending on which one you think about an example of taking back and existing term and there was some resistance to that because they took a word that was already out there that resistance was lampooned in this famous kids in the hall sketch. I'm all in favor of certain people having their own lifestyle. But why did they have to take the word gay. It's such a lovely word they've they've robbed the English language of a beautiful word but the difference Prince between co-opting an existing word like gay or queer and a word like they very much comes down to frequency of usage and a little bit of how it's used at all they is either either the twenty sixth or twenty. I most frequently used word in the English language depending on which citation you go buy it is above we up if can and no not end but I wanted to end the sentence I said and now in choosing such a common word the people who would like to re-jigger pronouns have crafted an uphill battle for themselves. They've created a barrier to easy or even not so easy acceptance now right now. I don't use the word word Latin X to describe members of the Latino Latina community because quite frankly. I'm waiting it out. I don't want to be seen as too pretentious but in a few years I'm also not going to want to be seen as behind the times mostly I just want to be a decent inclusive and kind person person who wants to call people what they need to be called. That's another thing you know if most people in the Latino community are saying call US Latina CTS than I'll certainly call them Latina cts but am I the Latinas police over here when we say Latina cts or even l._G._B._T._q.. We're using specific nouns L._G._B._T._Q.. I it's kind of a collective now which is actually kind of Nice and uplifting in a grammatical sense when you think about it and nouns specific nouns like that do not mind if you dwell on them that's kind of the point actually in a sentence if you consider them if they take up a bit of mind space on the part of the listener or the crafter of the sentence but pronouns operate entirely differently. They're meant to ease you along and glide guide you into the parts of the sentence the parts of thought that you are supposed to be spending higher mental processes on it would be hard but not impossible to adopt a change from he or she to say Z.. or Lee but to change to today I think is much much harder because they already means something and the thing it means is not just different in the sense that gay happy is different from gay homosexual. The thing it means is sort of opposite opposite to the thing it's trying to replace because one doesn't mean several that is a problem in terms of widespread adaptation. Look Latin X has a good chance of catching on I would say it D- Genders people of Hispanic origin actually people of Latin origin but if you WANNA do successfully come up with a new term lat next made sense you wouldn't want to call them Filipina cts because that's a different thing than what you're trying to replace and when I say that's a different thing of course people are in things but person is in people that is what I'm saying here the people of slate and very kind but almost comically progressive bunch of humans are doing this left and right got an email Mike today far hard manjoo wrote a column about wanting to be called. They what next is going to talk to him to which I responded. No they'll talk to them. This is a prediction. This is not a condemnation but I think it's tough enough to get everyone to rethink and re craft their pronouns but it might be doable but to further add onto the work of getting people to change the way they've talked since they were about four or five which means getting to change the way they think because when you're using pronouns you're really talking by instinct to do that as piling on gigantic complication that could prove off putting even to people of goodwill. Take me when you ask people say African American instead of black. I think one John Older generation generation might have chafed then the next will adapt and then the third won't even think about it but these going to be much harder because it's much different my producer Daniel disagrees he not they says the word they is a movement and it's about language language but it's also about actual people have searched for ways to articulate their identities and they have found by repurposing pre existing non gendered pronouns they can embrace their place outside of or in between the gender binary using they daniel notes also get the feeling of more than just male or female or maybe a little bit of neither male or female where it's very flexible and as for the linguistics of it all. He says he thinks it's much easier to convince people of a new additional meaning of a word that we already already used rather than inventing a new one okay but I say this I say if you want progress. Why make it so hard for others to join you? I do wonder this isn't a theory but it's a bit of wonderment. If the use of they being slightly slightly uncomfortable is part of the point or part of the appeal to the people who want to use it just given our current mood of not prioritizing the accommodation of the majority there are precedents by the way for linguistic inclusivity coming in fits and starts. If you're wondering luck whenever there was a new phrase everyone fights it then they adopted no not true some the illegitimate never gained wide appeal of history or women with the why some have declined in use and replaced by other ones that the language judge smiles upon more according to Google Trends fifteen years ago Hispanic was fifty percent more popular than Latino and those trend lines crossed in two thousand seven now Latino is almost twice as popular if I had to predict in twenty a years if they were widespread instead of him and her I would say no I could be wrong. I'm old and cranky and the kind of person who correctly uses fewer instead of less someone wanted you disagree here. She might be right therefore they'd be wrong. On the show today I feel about the Acosta who is out of the president's hair only for trump. It's the wrong Pasta Salad Sukasto labor secretary who has stepped down but first Emily Basil on New York Times magazine leaned writer and panelist of these slate political GABFEST has a new book out. It's also a new podcast. I've been meaning to talk to her for a while. It is called charged. It is about the Progressive Prosecutor Movement. Emily points out the prosecutors have enormous enormous power within our system to define the law even though their jobs are supposed to be simply upholding the law but their choices drive the story of Crime Prevention Incarceration Probation Employment and of course life and death as ever when I talked to emily we take the conversation far afield. I argue for pretty strict gun laws. She argues for effective diversionary programs instead of prison and yet we both agree Alex. Acosta is a shady dude food of course when we were recording the conversation he hadn't stepped down yet so got that she'll make reference to the Labor secretary that happened a day or two after we talk about here she is now Emily Basilan with charged <music> from slate. I'm Seth Stevenson from the Economist. I'm Tom Stanage. We're back with a second season of our podcast that looks to the past for lessons about what's coming next. It's called the secret history of the future chest in season two were digging even deeper to find unexpected and illuminating stories of bygone technology million details and a lot to learn along the way more curious tales from history for centuries. Italians had never eaten tomato more amazing discoveries from the present day. What would it mean to have superhuman music on more predictions about the future of Technology D._N._A.? Is Complex Science subscribe to the secret history of the future season two on apple podcasts. It's or wherever you listen progressive prosecutor. It's one of those phrases like mindful meditation or Holistic Health. They just can't object to so trendy. Emily Baz Lon has written written about the role of the prosecutor in the criminal justice system. It is an outsized role. It is hugely important role and it is a role that is changing an interesting ways. I Love Emily Basilan. I'm going to argue with her a little bit but I. I want you agree with her. As we talk about her book and podcast charged The new movement to transform American prosecution and mass incarceration Hambly Hey I like how you deflated me right at the beginning by I calling a really important aspect and sort of Prong I will say of the criminal justice reform movement trendy just dismissing it at the outset well. I think that no I think the idea of being progressive prosecutors the trendy thing that someone can't not say that <unk> I think Kamala Harris who has adopted that mantle much to the contradiction of fact we'll comma harasses trouble. Is that she when she was the D._A.. In San Francisco she did some things that at the time were innovative now she's laying claimed the Progressive Prosecutor Mantle but the movement has moved <hes> that's not the best phrase but the movement has gone much further than it was then and so the people who are trying trying really hard to elect district attorneys who want to reduce incarceration and just shrink the whole system they don't want to be boxed in by the Kamla Harris definition of a progressive prosecutor because it lags so far behind where they've come right and we could get to more of Kamala Harris but to me they're different choices. She made on specific cases but if you look at her record on cash bail it was regressive now as a senator she has introduced some legislation but I also note that she was the only one of the Democrats who filled out a survey for five thirty two did not say she supports ending the cash bail system in all cases. I think that's significant rate. I think it's fair to judge people by the standard of the time when Harris was the D._a.. Nobody was really talking about bail reform. Maybe they should have been but they weren't however her stance now in light of all of the evidence about how wasteful and wrongheaded and counterproductive cash bail is that's far more problematic and I think what you see here is Harris trying trying to straddle the politics here right. She wants credit for the diversion program she started in San Francisco. She also however wants to be seen as the top cop as like a strong law enforcement figure and so I think if you see her making these kinds of compromises in her stances and you know I'm not sure whether how many for how many voters this is really a deal breaking issue but it's it's tricky in this field. I also think Harris's vulnerable with her record as Attorney General of California there were a number of things. She did <hes> or her office did I should say they really failed to address prosecutorial misconduct in some pretty high profile cases they didn't investigate this big scandal involving the D._A.'s Office in the sheriff's office in Orange County and so when you look at that record to which is more recent than you think okay. This is someone who was trying to thread the needle. Now I mean I also always want to say about Harris. At the time she ran for attorney. General in California there were two black women elected to statewide office in the entire country and so there's a reason that she felt particular pressure to be threading this needle and to try to make <hes> the kinds of compromises that would win her more support from law enforcement but you know it. The question is how that plays now <hes> for the two thousand twenty election and especially in the Democratic primary electorate especially if the standard is let's judge the politicians by the standard of the time what has given her the wing wind beneath her wings not exactly doing that as regards Joe Biden Right. I mean I think Joe Biden has his own like deep vulnerabilities on this issue and there are lots of things he said in the ninety s when he was backing the crime bill when it was like like very fashionable on both sides of the aisle to be blaming you know so-called Super Predator criminals for America's problems. There was just a really harsh way that politicians talked about crime in in that era that has has not aged well because it didn't work right. I mean we made sentences much harsher. We passed all these mandatory minimum sentences that gave prosecutors far too much power. Joe Biden was a part of that and is also so having to figure out how to kind of reposition himself in a different era. Yeah I agree. I think he's just like Camel Harrison that as a very powerful person trying to use the best evidence available he had accomplishments and made mistakes and some of those things that you're talking about mistakes we could also add to the fact that he wanted to greatly expand the number of crimes that were applicable to the federal death penalty but just like Kamla Harris has these marks on a record that are bad but was also trying to be progressive for the gauge. If you look at a lot of the stuff Joe Biden championed he was right it brought crime down and crime was in a terrible position. Okay so you start making some really big sweeping statements. You said it worked it brought crime down and you say that what are you talking about. I'm talking about the one thousand nine hundred four crime bill which did add to incarceration but also all the best criminologists say Brooke Crime Down to somewhere between ten and twenty percent. It wasn't the only thing that brought crime down over incarceration is certainly a problem but it had an effect and if you say if you say but if one were to say oh crime was coming down anyway I mean I've talked to a lot of criminologists and sociologists. They say you know it's dishonest not to give the crime bill some credit for stemming crime. Even if it came at a great cost the way I usually think about this having also talked to lots of criminologists is that in general the rise in incarceration in the eighties and nineties and later in America yes yes there is a modest effect in terms of drop in crime. How much is directly attributable to the crime? Bill like okay may ten to twenty percent. Maybe I mean I think there are people who would question. Its direct effects on that but if you are talking about. AH The rise in incarceration writ large which the Crime Bill was part of I think that's true and then the question becomes okay. What were the cost from that? The human costs the way that it you know really unraveled a lot of communities particularly low income mm communities communities of color we now see you know the ripple effects and the kind of aftershocks of over incarceration and the way in which you know in particular putting so many black men behind bars has just had this incredibly credibly destructive effect and so I think when you look back on it it's really important to take those effects into account and to think about the way in which going to jail and prison produces more crime rate we know this it makes people more likely to re-offend and so when you're talking about the drop in crime and you're saying okay well we put all these people away they certainly weren't committing crimes on the outside while they were locked up and there were some other people were deterred yes sure but there's also this way in which you read communities fees and make people commit more crimes afterward and that seems like an important part of the picture to include as we're looking back on that era so aside from charged the podcast the book criminal justice issues another well. It's related another main focus of your attention is is to talk about sexual crimes. Sexual violence also the METOO movement. It does seem to me that we were in a moment where there are these cross currents where the best most progressive people want to get less car cereal and less punitive give when it comes to the people being arrested except when there's a guy like Jeffrey Epstein who makes the news but there are elements to his punishment that engender howls of protests that does indicate to me that we as as a society or the progressive parts of society aren't necessarily in a forgiving mood or a non punitive mood which is more in a mood for justice and Justice doesn't always mean to decriminalize justice means justice and I wonder if the progressive prosecutors are in general advocating a system of decriminalization just as a corrective or because they think that is the definition of justice you know I think you're onto something really important. What the Jeffrey Epstein case stands for to me is the problem of corruption when we don't have even handed justice and we see someone who's really rich and has <hes> important friends seemed to get an enormous break throughout that other people wouldn't get right and so when you see that when you see that kind of just like other inequity it seems to make the whole system seems suspect and dirty and yes? There's also this question of like what should the fair punishment be for that crime but you also just feel soiled by this story. That's about someone using their rich and powerful connections to get something that they shouldn't have gone also it. It was illegal. I mean a federal judge has found that the fact that Alex Acosta now our U._S. Labor secretary didn't inform the victims of this non-prosecution agreement was actually a violation of federal law so there is just so much to complain about in the Jeffrey Epstein Story. I think you're right. We do want justice. Let let me just get to guns and New York City. Most of the podcast is about a kid who's who was caught with a gun in New York City and he went into a diversion program here. Is My theory and you argue against it or here's how I think about it. I don't know if people know but in Nineteen ninety-one two thousand two hundred forty five people were murdered in New York and last year less than three hundred okay. This is a ninety percent drop. Let us do this. Let's identify the biggest possibly solvable problem. That's going on in society so let's put aside global warming. Pick another huge problem. I doubt that that problem will ever be solved to the extent that homicides in my city were solved and I think it is notable that New York City which has much lower homicide rates than any random place in the United States and cut homicide down so much more than anywhere else in the United States also has the the absolute strictest gun laws in the United States and part of those gun. Laws are basically if you have a gun you're GONNA get arrested and there's going to be a pretty harsh sentence. You talk about in the book the guarantee of justice the guarantee of punishment Schmidt being fundamental to punishment actually working but I mean do you disagree with any of this. Do you think that New York City's harsh gun laws. Don't play a huge effect in bringing murder down in New York City. Yes the way that you're talking this sort of argument. Here's the part I object to New York. City has done an excellent job of keeping gun ownership low that is absolutely important. <hes> Frank Zimring were throwing around the names of a lot of law professors and add add him to the mix he wrote a book called the city that became safe about New York City and he says that the low rate of gun ownership is really important but frank also is a big skeptic that mandatory minimum prison sentences for gun possession are a factor her in reducing gun violence and the reason is there's been a lot of research on exactly that question in different places around the country and it never pans out the way that you just assumed does that mean that like you should have no criminal sentencing at all for gun possession. I'm not going that far but I think this assumption and the N._y._p._d.. is constantly pounding and home this week. Mayor de Blasio and N._y._P._d.. Attacked a diversion program in Brooklyn that provides a small escape hatch for young people charged with gun possession this assumption that we have to block every single person who has a gun. It's wrong it that is not what we can attribute the drop in crime to and it wrecks lives. It treats everyone as the same. It doesn't think about the circumstances of people's lives. That's why the poor kids in Brooklyn have guns will what they say is that they're protecting themselves so let's think about how to give them other options how to make that seem like a choice. They don't have to make instead of just assuming the locking them up is the answer because you know what they're all gonna come home. Even if you put them away for two or three years which is what New York is doing a lot of the time they come home and then they're probably going to be less equipped to become productive citizens right. They have these serious felony records. They have trouble getting jobs and housing it's again. It's really short sighted needed and it's not necessary. Could I ask you one last question yeah. This is a fundamental part of the podcast so in the in the podcast Harare who we meet and he's likable. We get to know him. He likes you. Just said had the gun for protection. I don't credit that because if you look at the stats he didn't need the gun for protection. It's one case to say in Nineteen ninety-one when there are five hundred murders in the Brooklyn South precinct that you need a gun for protection now that there are fifty something murders and I just looked up these stats. What's you don't need a gun for protection? If you didn't have the gun he wouldn't have been shot. I mean there's comes a certain point where that becomes a less sympathetic argument. I think New York City's at that point so try and get shot first of all he got arrested almost certainly illegal. I know but like thinking that you need the gun for protect yeah but like you're taking these like nice rational statistics in your imagining that if that is the world as terrarium sees it and that's just not true like he lives in a much more specific universe in which there are the people who he felt threatened by. There's lots of evidence of this in the podcast. He talks about it a lot and explains why he felt like you needed to be protected in fact a few days before he got arrested for having a gun someone ahead like Rasta sister at a party. Those people were threatening him. I'm on social media and actually came to his house so the kind of abstraction of the lower homicide and shooting rate in New York those things are some kind of factor in people's minds but your own specific universe can be telling you something different from this larger picture rate right. Is that specific or is that subjective. It's subjective objectively. It's extremely unlikely that you're going to need a gun if the if he was living in London he might say well any protection and it's a knife and it would be much better for society well yeah but I feel like we're having this conversation as if like everybody's irrational actor and has like a total grasp on all of that so first of all in poor neighborhoods in Brooklyn the threat of shooting if you're a young black guy is much higher than it is overall but even absent that at people's perceptions of being threatened can be out of date right they can be like based on all the ideas they grew up with they can be based on what they see. In the movies based on the image they want to project that kind of subjective understanding of your life like you know looking at it as blake a white middle-class person from the outside. It's just like a different view things even if it's wrong I mean look drives decision to get a gun is misguided it lands him in a lot of trouble and you know one of the other characters in my podcast talks about like this idea of guns protecting you well when he had gone him he got shot like it doesn't even work in the moment of self defense the way people wanted to so I'm not I'm not defending the notion that guns protect people. I think that's wrong. I'm just saying that I think it's important understand stand where kids are coming from and to try to like think about what could change their world view as as opposed to just dismissing it but the way to convince a kid like terrarium that he doesn't need a gun is not to point at a stat is to change his lived experience the same kid in Chicago Kogo. I might not agree with but understand more once it becomes less and less objectively true that you're likely to get shot then it becomes less and less likely that kid is going to think he has a gun and my point point. Is that the thing that affects objective truth. Are things like programs that essentially say if you have a gun. You're doing some jail time. Look I feel like now are looping back to where we were before. I just disagree with you like that and threat of deterrence turns it when you talk to the kids who are arrested for gun possession in New York. They don't give a shit about that. That's not what they're thinking about it. They set one of them said to me like I'd rather go to prison for a couple of years. Then then be dead like they do see that that is a real threat. There are neighborhoods in Brooklyn and in New York even that remained dangerous or they've grown up with that memory of danger. It feels present to them. You know you can try to talk people out of it. You can give them other options. There are lots of ways to try to work with kids is to make them understand that they are making bad choices. There's a bigger better world out there for them but the idea that threatening them with prison that that's the thing that is going to convince them not to have a gun. I just don't think so we have lots of evidence that that is does not affect their mindset in the moment. These are rash teenagers right. We're talking about people whose brains are not fully developed like young rash boys and men. They're not as rational as you're being right now. We'll kids should yeah I mean and this is one of your bullet points. Oh terrible terrible Fred Fred's this is one of your action items wanted. Kids should be treated as kids charged is the name of the book. It's also the name of the slate podcast and the name of the woman behind both of these is emily basil on thank you emily. Thanks for having me now. The spiel breaking news Alex Acosta is out as Labor Secretary Acosta out and in a stunning development to replace him. The White House brings in Russell Westbrook doc the former okay see point guard leader in points in minutes but will he be able to oversee mining safety the White House said to be considering a sign and trade that would move director of National Intelligence. Dan Coats to the New Orleans Pelicans for Lavar ball a big baller brand coming to D._C.. Lavar ball great talent but is it the right fit. Will there be enough minutes for both the talented young point guard in the Septuagenarian twitter who is clearly the Alpha dog on this team. Let's bring in Stephen Schwartz Stephen a what do you make the deal. The administration has used needs at commerce but Wilbur Ross apparently as a no trade clause as does Robert lighthizer which is very short sighted because he is the trade representative at least Ross is an expiring contract now they've clearly got to. do more in the interior david bernhardt is not proving to be a rim protector the grand canyon is just crumbling out there they could use a better energy guy than rick perry and i question their veteran leadership david wilkie head of veteran affairs this guy oh and don't get me started on their defense they need to address the defense ever since matters retired it's a huge hole in the defense mark asper this guy's barely above replacement level <hes> hold on you're not stephen a smith knob stephen schwartz oh the guy who wrote pippen and god's spell no that's stephen l schwartz just one of many guys named stephen schwartz who has an opinion in studio freight okay thank you very much sir rivers belong in they can ramble eagles as long as they can fly okay moving on here's what actually happened today president trump stood next to his labor secretary alex acosta who is stepping down over criticism that he gave billionaire though possibly only millionaire jeffrey epstein sweetheart non-prosecution deal for the crimes of sexually assaulting young women and girls today trump basically forced a cost into agreeing that he the president of the united states was put a passive participant in the labor secretaries continued labor and alex i think you'll i agree i said you don't have to do he doesn't have to do earlier in the press conference amid the din of the whirling helicopter motor that trump loves to conduct press conferences next to the president explained why he may have felt both a little uncomfortable but ultimately reassured by secretary acosta was a tremendous talent he's a hispanic man he went to harbored a great student the president then touted some of the accomplishments of his outgoing secretary in a way that no human being could possibly understand what he's done with plans and you see the bland's coming one after another you're just about done with the 4._0._1._k. laura one k. and raffin things that nobody would even think of things with 4._0._1._k.'s that no one ever thought of what were these 4._0._1._k. innovations trump did not spell it out i researched it i was trying to help our uncommunicative commander in chief figured as something to do with the fiduciary rule now you may have read about this it was in the news a few months ago in fact a year before that as well the fiduciary rule demands that retirement advisors act in the best interests of their clients and put their clients interests above their own the fiduciary responsibility guess what president trump thinks of a rule that tries to prevent savvy financial experts from ripping off their clients i will quote from wall street journal op-ed the fiduciary rule is written may not align with president trump's deregulatory goals this administration presumes that americans can be trusted to decide for themselves what is best for them the author of that op-ed alex kosta good man also hispanic went to harvard doing things with 4._0._1._k.'s no one ever thought of that too i'm unclear and i think it's unclear where the administration stands on an acting or fighting the fiduciary rule president trump certainly didn't explain it the s._e._c. has version of it i would like to understand it it would be nice if our president could maybe say a simple sentence that i could grasp anyway most of the press conference consisted consisted of trump bashing familiar enemies like a mayor like de blasios probably the worst bear in the country from new york i don't even know what his attitude is nobody does he doesn't work very hard nobody knows what the hell he does and he also bragged about familiar accomplishments using the third singular nobody is treated the military better than president trump nobody nobody's even come close yes alex acosta stood by for nearly twenty five minutes quite uncomfortably having quit this godforsaken rat trap of being unable to finally extricate himself a cost of briefly stepped up to the mic to make his own claims including first place to holidays down bucking the trend that we had the safest year ever and mining the lowest number fatality ever in mining this is not true according to the bureau of labor zone website combined fatalities in coal mines and metal and non metal mines where the lowest west in two thousand sixteen the last year of barack obama's presidency with all this loose talk and indecipherable talk and incorrect talk i thought it would be nice to end with an incontrovertibly true statement here here now our president lived through things that you wouldn't believe <hes> yes agreed i think we all have every day for the last two and a half years and that's it for today show pierre vienna man daniel freighter produced the gist they've alighted on this pack to avoid the 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Labor Secretary Alex Acosta Defends His Handling Of Jeffrey Epstein Plea Deal

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Labor Secretary Alex Acosta Defends His Handling Of Jeffrey Epstein Plea Deal

"This is saying calling from Victoria Falls Zimbabwe. I just finished the Victoria Falls Marathon and have now completed my goal of running a half or full marathon in all fifty states and seven continents. This podcast was recorded at hat three forty eight P._M.. On Wednesday the tenth of July things may have changed by the time you hear this. Keep up with all of N._p._R.'s political coverage on N._p._R.. Dot Org on N._p._R.. One APP and on your local public radio station all right. Here's the show will congratulations on that ethic. That's -CCOMPLISH super cool. I'm so glad I ate cake for lunch and have an exercise in among we are winning. Hey there. It's the N._p._R.. Politics podcast. I'm Timbre Keith cover the White House on Kelsey Snell like Congress and I'm Carrie Johnson National Justice correspondent all right so we are all here today because Labor Secretary Alexander Kosta just held old a very long press conference defending his role in a case years ago back when he was a prosecutor dealing with a multimillionaire named Jeffrey Epstein Carrie Johnson Epstein is facing charges his again related to sex trafficking. I'm hoping you can catch us up on this case. Jeffrey Epstein has been indicted in Manhattan in New York for on allegations of sex trafficking in conspiracy but he's getting attention a and as is the current Labor secretary because more than ten years ago <hes> the Justice Department signed a non-prosecution agreement with this same Guy Jeffrey Epstein around similar kinds of allegations Jeffrey Free Epstein who's been linked to some very high level politicians including current President Donald Trump and former president Bill Clinton and a whole bunch of others Jeffrey Epstein actually pleaded guilty to state prostitution charges more than ten years ago. He got a thirteen. A month jail sentence but he was allowed to leave jail almost every day to work and go to lunch and that deal is now being criticized as way too lenient. The man who signed that deal was Alex Acosta than the U._S.. Attorney in Miami and now the Labor Secretary What Epstein is charged with at accused of is pretty terrible. It's as bad as it gets him. Some people have likened it to a sexual pyramid scheme but involving girls some girls as young as fourteen years old we have seen photographs of some girls who say they are survivors of sexual abuse by Epstein. They were wearing braces at the time. Some of the this conduct occurred so Kelsey the reason why Alexander cost had a press conference though is because he is now in the spotlight having to defend his decisions from from all those years ago and there's been sort of a drumbeat getting louder louder on Capitol Hill Right. I mean the thing that up here on in the capital that members of Congress willing to know is why did a cost to enter into this non-prosecution agreement for APPs then why did he serve so little and <hes> why why did a cost to step in to make sure that this happened now some members of Congress have been calling for a cost to to be removed or to resign as a result of his role in the two thousand eight case not in this new case <hes> that is working its way through in New York what his role in the non-prosecution agreement in Florida in two thousand eight Kelsey one of the things that Alex Roster tried to do to name this news conferences defend himself. He basically said he took the best deal available at the time time. We did what we did because we wanted to see Epstein go to jail. He needed to go to jail. Acosta said basically he and the feds went in on this more than ten years ago because of the <unk> state was GonNa let Jeffrey Epstein off light and it cost us said that he tried to reach a deal so that Jeffrey Epstein would have pleaded guilty to something that he would have to serve jail time and that he would have to register as a sex offender in. Finally that there would be some restitution to the victims and I know that in two thousand nineteen looking back on two thousand eight things may look different but this was the judgment of prosecutors with dozens of years of experience variance Carey. Is it true that a thirteen month plea agreement was the best they could actually do. You know I it's hard to say looking back but a lot of former prosecutors have been highly highly critical of Aleksic Kosta for trading away <hes> the case a federal case against Jeffrey Epstein for what turned out to be a thirteen month sentence a costas said today in his defense that he thought it was going to be an eighteen month sentence not a thirteen month sentence and a cost to actually said this in a moment of <hes> <hes> maybe <hes> <hes> earthy nece unusual earth that he thought that <hes> Jeffrey Epstein got out every day of jail to go to work release Alex Acosta call that complete B._S.. <hes> the question though in the minds of a lot of former prosecutors in D._O._J.. Sources of mine is <hes> why you didn't just keep that federal case open for for longer do more investigating Acosta said there were some problems with some of those girls the survivors of alleged abuse by Epstein. Some of them did not want to come forward at the time they were traumatized. They didn't want anybody else to know what had happened to them. In fact he cited a sworn statement from career lawyer saying <hes> some of those girls refused to testify before the grand jury WanNa may have moved out of the country that said <hes> there there was really no harm in keeping the investigation open for longer at the federal level. We now see what's happened when other federal authorities have taken a look at this problem well and we should also add that the reason or a big reason why this is back doc and why federal authorities were looking at this again is because of investigative reporting <hes> by the Miami Herald among others but especially the Miami Herald <hes> going out and finding other alleged victims and telling their stories in the New York prosecutors <hes> they have a specifically so that they praised the Miami Herald for the work that they did all right. We are going to take a quick break and when we get back what comes next and what president trump might think of all this support for this podcast and the. Following message come from butcher box but your box works closely with farms and companies committed to raising animals humanely with no added hormones or antibiotics and Bush box has over twenty different cuts of meat to choose from with grass fed beef took free range organic chicken so wild caught sockeye salmon but your box ships free rights your door get six free burgers in every box until October fifteenth and a special discount when you sign up on butcher box dot com slash politics takes this is terry gross the host a fresh air from W._h._y._y.. N._P._R.. We do long-form interviews with journalists breaking the big news stories and with the authors filmmakers and musicians behind the best in pop culture so listen and subscribe and we're back and we talked about congressional calls for Alex Acosta to resign <hes> but there is another person that might have some say in that and that person is president trump yup. Yes a guy who has talked a lot about firing over the years right Tam Right and yesterday he was asked about Epstein at a cost. I feel very badly actually for secretary of Kosta because I've known him him as being somebody that works so hard and has done such a good job. I feel very badly about that whole situation but we're going to be looking at that and looking at it very closely feels badly about that whole situation which I guess that whole situation would be the victims <hes> but also there's a key phrase in there <hes> we're going to be looking at that. We're going to be looking at that very closely. <hes> in in my role is trump translator. I will just say that that can sometimes be a kiss of death. I mean how many times has he said something like that. I mean it's probably hard to quantify but we have seen this play out over and over and over again somebody that is in the cabinet somebody that trump has nominated gets into a scandal. There is a a series of defenses of that person and then all of a sudden the pressure gets too much and that person who's is either forced out or quits <hes> I it feels really familiar in that way it does <hes> he's used that exact phrase. He has praised the. Job someone is doing and then use that exact phrase and then within either minutes hours or days that person is pushed out of the cabinet or the administration <hes> will that happen with a cost. We have no idea <hes> he was asked asked at the press conference today. <hes> did president trump. Put you up to this. <hes> did president trump. Send you out here or are you speaking to an audience of one. Are you just talking to the president and he insisted no. I I'm here to talk about this case. I'm doing my job. If at some point the president decides that I am not the best person to do this job I respect that that is his choice. I serve at the pleasure of the president. He was just doing this to set the record straight and he did he did talk for about an hour I mean and to it'd be fair the other people who have done this to have gone down this road of kind of defending themselves and doing it in such a public setting they haven't admitted to having a press conference for the benefit of the president either so this wouldn't be entirely hardly surprising that he would deny that we'll actually doing a full on press conference like this has been pretty rare the trump administration. It's more of a a no apologies move ahead kind of an administration this this was this was different now <hes> Carey and Kelsey. There's more to come though right this is not done with the press conference or even the prosecution of Epstein. No in fact I next week <hes> prosecutors New Yorker going to be back in court. They're going ASHFORD JEFFREY EPSTEIN TO BE DETAINED PENDING trial. They think he's an extreme flight risk. The Guy has untold millions if not billions of dollars in assets to planes and prosecutors say he has not reformed he is not chastened and he is not repentant after this earlier guilty plea. There's something else that's going to be going on here and that's that this non-prosecution agreement the U._S.. Attorney's office in Miami sign with Jeffrey Epstein may become part of Jeffrey Epstein's legal defense. It's or illegal attack. They appear to be setting up an argument that this deal from a long time ago may have precluded New York prosecutors from Bringing Charges D._O._J.. Thoroughly rebuts that but Jeffrey Epstein's defense is going to feature that argument moving. Or forward isn't there also an internal investigation going on in the Justice Department about that there is the D._O._J.. Office of professional responsibility is investigating all of this and today Alex Acosta said that he doesn't have to cooperate with them but he will sit for a voluntary interview. <hes> this is the office that investigates misconduct allegations against prosecutors it only has really the power to punish people who still work at the Justice Department which outs cost does not anymore but it's certain to make life difficult for a lot of former government officials and some people in the U._S. Attorney's office in Miami who still work there today well this isn't going to go away for Kosta in any way putting even if he doesn't participate in this investigation Democrats Cardi asking for access to information in a briefing about the investigation at D._O._J.. And they're asking a cost to come and testify for the House Oversight Committee on July twenty third. Let me just point out that it's not just Democrats that have been on the case of Jeffrey Epstein Eighteen Ben Sasse a Republican from Nebraska has been pounding this drum for months and months now so much so that he even asked Bill Bar <hes> at his confirmation hearing to become attorney general to please look into this matter and I'm hearing behind the scenes that SAS and his team continued oppress the Justice Department for Action on this these internal investigations by justice do not often become public because they involve a lot of privacy and personal privacy issues but <hes> Kelsey Democrats on Capitol. Oh Hell in her Republicans on Capitol. Hill may come together and try to squeeze out this report whenever it comes though I will say there's a difference between being in favor of going after Epstein and you know breaking with the president on a Kosta and so far I've talked to a lot republicans up here who have taken a wait and see approach to all of us including Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell who basically said this is up to the president. We'll see what happens with how president trump feels about his labor secretary and whether what he said yesterday changes or whether Acosta persists all right that is a wrap for today we will be back tomorrow with our weekly round up until then had to N._p._R.. Dot Org slash politics newsletter to subscribe.

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Bill O'Reilly on Exactly Where Jim Acosta Went Wrong

Bill O'Reilly's Free Podcast

05:48 min | 2 years ago

Bill O'Reilly on Exactly Where Jim Acosta Went Wrong

"The I'm going to break down the election for you in a very accurate. No nonsense nonpartisan way when I say nonpartisan, it means that I'm not spinning anything. And we're all the other networks. Do I don't it's going to be straight right to you. What happened and why I think it happened. But I I gotta get to this CNN Jim Acosta stuff. So as you know, because I've been saying it since I've ever since I started this broadcast eighteen months ago, the presses corrupt America and the chieftains the media bosses who run the journalism enterprises, give orders to their people. You do this. This is this is how we are going to report the story. I I started forty five years ago and that never happened. Now. It happens all the time CNN is in the business to trash Donald Trump. Everybody knows that nobody can say, honestly, I don't believe it or it's not happening. That's what CNN does every day. So does the New York Times? So does NBC MSNBC sodas of Washington pulse? Okay. Now, a Kosta is the White House correspondent now I have an insight into this probably better than any human being on earth. I've interviewed president Gerald Ford. I've interviewed President Clinton I've interviewed Hillary Clinton President Bush, the younger three times President Obama three times. President Trump thirty tops, right? I have interviewed them all if you ever wanna see them, Google, President Obama Bill O'Reilly, President Bush Bill O'Reilly you pop up, and you can see it. I consider myself the toughest interviewer in the country. Okay. And when I did those interviews with those men, I was criticized because I did interrupt them. Once they started to blow V8. once they wouldn't answer the question for whatever reason I came in. I got criticized by the left and the right. I took the criticism, but I was never disrespectful. And I always couched my questions around facts, I did not give my opinion unless asked and a couple of times I was asked by the president's. But I would couch it around facts this happen. Why did you do this? That's Mike typical question. Okay. For example, in Barack Obama, Muslim Brotherhood are killers. All right, there are threat to the Egyptian government. Why are you backing Muslim Brotherhood Mr President that was for Barack Obama? He didn't like that question. But I didn't debate him after he gave the. The answer. I had a respect for the office. And once he answered it, I moved onto another question. Jim Acosta has no respect for the office. He hates President Trump and all of the people who work for him. Now he deny that. But he gets up and immediately starts a debate. Not a question and answer a debate Rolla Tate. Thank vice-president challenge. You on on one of those statements that you made in the tail of the campaign in terms. Here we go that. Well, I if you don't mind. That this caravan was an invasion as you consider to be as president caravan was not an invasion. It's a it's a group of migrants moving up from Central America towards the border with the US. Thank you, Dan. They're hundreds of miles away their hundreds and hundreds of miles away that that's not an invasion. Honestly, I think you should let me run the country you run CNN or if you did it. Well, you're rating let me ask you. Okay. So what it cost is doing is. He's debating he's not asking. If you wanted to ask about an invasion you say, Mr President. Why do you consider it an invasion? I consider it an invasion. All right. He get seven thousand people organized in a foreign country Honduras. They are marching thousands of miles with the express intent of crossing the American border and seeking asylum. That's an invasion in my opinion. It falls under the definition of invasion, a home invasion is when people come into your home not invited. We didn't invite seven thousand people from Honduras. The have government did not invite them, nor do the US people. Okay. Home invasion, border invasion, but this pen had a consta- what he's doing is. So wrong. And so against every journalistic rule he wants to debate and demean Donald Trump, the president of the United States. That's his intent is intended isn't to seek information. If it was he would say, why do you consider it an invasion when they're a thousand miles away. They haven't even shown up yet. And then let the president answer you wanna follow what fine. But no, he says, quote, the caravan is not an invasion. Look a cost. Nobody cares. What you think? Okay. If they did you'd ever primetime opinion show. No, one cares. Least of all President Trump. You're taking valuable time away from the American people who want a Q and A and you're disrespectful to boot.

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Ep.163 | Trump vs. Acosta & Dems Take the House

The News & Why It Matters

37:33 min | 2 years ago

Ep.163 | Trump vs. Acosta & Dems Take the House

"You're listening to the news white matters on demand. This is the news. And why why why why it matters? Hey, I'm Sarah Gonzales, welcome to the news. And why it matters. I don't think we've slept. I don't think so either. And I think we have to have this conversation that we're having just before went on the point today. All right. Sounds like a good overtime topic. On top story today. I was gonna go with the election. But I think we've already seen we've already seen. No one is going to learn their lesson all start there. Let's to was the election a win or a loss for Republicans. Andrew we're gonna talk about caucus. So the groups within the party's lots of get into, of course. But before we do that want to thank our sponsor brickhouse brick houses keeping me alive today with their product from dawn to dusk. Nobody. Nobody shared it with me. I mean, I think you could we can hook you up. Yeah. I know some people I didn't drug deal. That's the way it happened. I've got some stuff too. 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No one's learned. A lesson before this is important you need to find the grave of Johnny Appleseed, drink one of those green drinks and just drop it over it and walk away. Go buddy. Okay. So I I wanna talk about the lesson that both sides. Should learn is that extremism is not going to bring anyone to the table. We learned this where did the Republicans Lucy's? They lost him in the Rumney places where where the the subur- the suburbian kind of townships that went for Romney did not like Obama. But they also weren't like crazy. Same thing with the Democrats. They were running democratic socialist. They didn't win last night. So what is it that America? Once they want to return to some sort of normalcy where we can talk to each other, no one in the press. And I don't think anyone in in the parties are going to get this either. But the American people showed it last night. That's what these results show, but look it Jew. Jim Acosta and how he treated the president today. Now, you know, the president is a big boy could take care of himself. But here I think the president is doing all he can to just answer the presses question and be cool. And they obviously don't like each other. But he's trying to answer the question and be cool watch. It was president challenge you on on one of the statements that you made in the tail of the campaign like to in terms here, we go. Well, if you. That this caravan wasn't invasion as you to be as president caravan was not an invasion. It's a it's a group of migrants moving up from Central America towards the border with the US. Thank you. Why did you why did you characterize it as such as I consider an invasion you, and I have a difference of it? But. Demonized immigrants election, try them. I want them to come into the country, but they have to come in legally they have to come in through a process I wanted to be process, and I want people to come in. And we need the people. You're you're, you know, why we need to be because we have hundreds of companies moving in we need the people. Okay. So that's totally legitimate. He started with I wanna challenge on something. That's not your job to challenge him. It's your job to ask questions and get the facts fine. He's totally fine answers it. That's not good enough for Jim. You've got one question. That's been the rule since I don't know ever since. I was in diapers. You get one question. You say I have a two part question. He didn't do that. One question. President tries to move on watch for your campaign had an ad showing migrants climbing over walls it, but they weren't actor not going to be doing accuracy. Do you think they were actors they weren't actors? They didn't come from Hollywood. He's were these where people this was an actual. It's happened a few days ago, and they're hundreds of miles away. They're hundred and hundreds of Manila a third question on invasion. Honestly, I think you should let me run the country you run CNN or if you did it. Well, you're writing. Free questions. So far the next one that he that he was asking was well, why would you show that? We'll because that's though, though those pictures those video that video was the migrant caravan and how they did it to Guatemala or exit. Then how they were trying to tear down the fence to get across another country's border. It's the same people. And I love that. He's like, well, but that was twelve hundred miles away their goal is to come here. Okay. So he's showing them. He's still keeping his cool. One more clip this president. Are you worried about indictments coming down in this vessel? Tell you what she n n should be ashamed of itself having you work in for them. You are a rude. Terrible person. You shouldn't be working for gay. CNN? So this is the part that is only going to be the part that is shown by everybody. Just that what we didn't show is the party in between where jibs is I want to ask another question. He says, no you've already had your question. We're moving on we're moving on. And Jim just keeps going another girl that we have the video of the girl. Trying to take the mic shares. White House aide trying her job is to look it to move the Mike. That's the other folks. That's pardon me. Ma'am, miss. That's enough. President. I'd ask on on the Russian vestige. That's enough. That's enough. That's enough. My question is what is a president supposed to do? The what the president is trying to say on the border is there has to be system. We cannot have chaos. What Jim cost a cost is doing is trying to bring chaos to the project to the process. The president is fine. He he says enough enough enough. There's chaos because he won't play by the rule. What is a president supposed to do? He pushes him. So far that then he says, you're just a terrible person. And quite honestly after watching that live. I agree with him. I agree with him. So the press demonstrated to me. The didn't even they didn't even take a breath from last night. They are just going to keep going in the same direction. The president. I said last night and everybody said he wouldn't do it. I said the president the best thing he could do is just be gracious. Here's the president with his number one press fo- fo- trying to be gracious and it gets him nowhere. Even gave sort of an out for a Costo, which was to say, we just have a difference of opinion. I see it as an invasion. You don't that's a very legitimate respectful thing to say, we just have a difference of opinion. Apparently that wasn't good enough. And then I'd like to add into the conversation, Stu NBC news tweeted out the video of all of this. And their headline was White House staffer tries to physically, you know, take microphone away from Jimmy cost the week. Who has no power always preyed upon woman who was at? She was a. Tiny woman way, he shoves her or at least. These blocks he'd locked arm and boxes her outright. I wouldn't call it a salt. No. But he sold. Yeah. Salt. Yes. Roles. Yes. Yes. I don't know. If I missed it. I just watched that again, I don't I don't really see much kind of uses his body and move. We're not a salt. But it definitely is. I mean, he's physically preventing her from taking the microphone for sure I would like to add one thing, and we didn't mention that that again in this exchange. Trump did refer to I think he did CNN specifically is the enemy of the people which which is worth bringing up. This is not an exchange. That's happening in a vacuum. Where you know. This is just brand new interaction between a cost Trump each other. They hate each other. And I understand that. But the president at what point who's going to be the bigger person you're expecting Don Trump to be the bigger person. Okay. In this case, he was he was the bigger person. He called on him. He clearly doesn't like him. But he called on him. He answered his question. He even was talked down to. And he's like, oh, thank you for telling me what that really means. But he was the bigger person. I kind of agree and disagree with the president on this. I think by all appearances Jim Acosta is a route and terrible person. However, if crossed the line for me, that's where he crossed the line. And he said what about rude was terrible. The line. But well rude. For him to say, he should say something like either watch a lot of Ronald Reagan and go to comedians and say, how can I defuse this? That would be the best thing to do. But he could have just said, you know, Jim, I've answered your question. I tried to be polite. You and I don't have obviously a good relationship. But this is the people's house. I'm the elected Representative. This is a house that has had some of the greatest statesmen ever. I may not be that statesman to you. But show some respect even if it's not for me for the office of the presidency. We're moving on. I would also say I don't if Jim Mukasa is and terrible person. I don't know why the president wouldn't think he should work CNN seems like a good place for him to be good place to hang out. He fit in very nicely with some of the people over there. Look, this is what Trump does he likes it. And who else loves it frigging Jim Acosta, Jimmy, there's no one in America who loves more than Jimmy signing. Autographs. Course, he's all in it for him. They're both in it to make themselves. Feel more important both that entire transaction. There was a transaction designed to inflate both of their egos and it works because everyone talks about it. I mean cost is if you need to find one person in America to ignore. Jim Acosta is wonderful nominee for that position. And this is an example of what people don't want anymore is it troubling at all to you Andrew that. There were a very large amount of reporters who were sending their support to Jim Acosta or that extreme. No, I I got to say the president of the United States is calling the media. The enemy the people. I mean, like, I've become berkey is the result of Trump coming in in Burke for anybody. That's not familiar with kind of the godfather of conservativism ripe for the revolution. This idea that we have these very important institutions that are underpinning American of American civil discourse. And he's kicking one of those legs, very hard. So I can understand having that like reflexive defensive other reporters in there just the second hand second. Because I I am I mean, I been taken on by two presidents now I have been in those rooms I have I have been at CNN, and I bet at FOX. So I consider myself a member of the press. I am you know, they don't like to say this. But I am right with them. I have joined their freedom of press organizations with all the lefties, I will support is supported freedom of the press when Obama was doing it. And they didn't care I've doing it now as well. But you the president does not have a right to shut anyone down. He does not have a right to silence. Anyone? However, you can't. You can't tell me that. I don't have a right to respond to things that I think I mean, they're not fair to him. I'm not let's not play. What aboutism. Sure. Okay. Because we can spend an hour doing him. I'll concede to that. Like if someone's just refusing to relinquish the microphone that's a situation indefinite make you kind of understand where he's where Trump is coming from. When he says that when you see how Jim Acosta behave towards him. Is that not there's no wind here. But. Break it down to this and ask this. I do not like nor do I agree with enemy of the people. I don't like when he says that. That repeatedly on. However. Forget take yourself take yourself as that alien ship that just was going around the sun. Okay. You're an alien in you're watching it's kind of like an invading force. I don't like that term. And it's not quite right. But it is kind of you know, they're saying I'm gonna cross your border, and you're going to try to stop me, and I don't care, and so it is kind of an invasion. I mean, a home invasion is a robbery. Okay. So it's not quite right. And I don't like it. Same thing with of the people they're not the enemy people. But they they are they they act at times as a an enemy of truth. Now, Donald Trump does too. But sometimes they're they knowingly move interactions that are absolutely unfair and untrue. If you are one of the legs of the table, which you are in an important one. You do have a responsibility to say, wait a minute guys. Is wait a minute. We gotta be fair and not have an agenda other than the truth. I would agree with that. That's true. Yeah. Absolutely. I I would agree. And I would just add onto your point about about it not happening in vacuum. I think you're totally right on that. I mean, there is a reason for reporters at times to be angry at Trump. However, most of them are able to handle it and still be respectful. I think like with cost. The this happening in a vacuum. It goes both ways with us. The cost is is there's oceans and oceans between Jim Acosta and Jake, tapper Anderson Cooper and wolf Blitzer. And there's a ton of people at CNN that are really good and Jim Acosta is is known grandstand. Or he's out there all the time trying to make himself into a big deal. He pulls a chasers of himself in a mirror. He's he's constantly getting filming himself at reeling questions at people's they walk away. I can understand again. I don't know there's the president the president should be the one who rises above that. But that's not the era where in that ship for me sailed a million years ago. I don't expect anything out of any either of these guys when it comes through these interactions. I'm not surprised that this one at all at one point. We had five five people connected to the White House boycotting. And and pulling the levers of giant financed organizations to try to silence, my voice on FOX. I've had the president. The United States breathing down my neck every single day for two years. Even at that time. I would say things, but when I addressed the president on television when I would address him on radio. I always said Mr President, please this is what people are there's a difference between doing a show and saying, hey, this is what's going on and Obama's doing this Obama's doing that. And a time when you look at the president and you say, Mr President, please you must always have respect for the position. No matter who is sitting in it. Otherwise, the whole thing breaks down. All right. We have more to come stay with us. Jerry. Varying. Glenn Beck is coming line to talk about the right path forward and to make fun of the people standing in the way might not be able to save the country. But at least we can all go down laughing. Glenn beck. Vine. The addicted to outreach toured on tour. This fall. We were just having this conversation off air. I think that what? What we saw last night is explained in this exchange between the two both sides are tired of the extremist, and you can play what aboutism all day long. You can look if you're on the on the left, you can say Donald Trump. He's he had every right to punch Jim Acosta, literally puncher, but verbally say enough. And you know, you're a bad person every right because of the way Jim was acting, and you can say Jim is Opposers and everything else. However, if you're on the left, you can say that about Donald Trump, and what's happening is we're comparing two sides, and it's your either for this one or that one where what we saw in the election last night was we don't want either of those don't want either of those. I think there's really only five different types of political conversations, and I won't. Tale all of them. But the most common one by far particularly with the media is just our team is the good team. The other team is the bad team. It's the easiest one it lends itself to that. What aboutism rather than dealing with the actual what was the violation that happened. What was the that was broken? Just who's the good guy who's the bad guy in this one furthers that narrative of there's too I don't I don't feel like I'm on either team. And I think there's a lot of Americans that are neither. And yet when you get into that. What about is MC creates that false dichotomy when I got into the voting both yesterday. I felt like I was on team. And I didn't like it. You know, I was like this has got to stop. And I didn't like it. I don't want to be on a team, but you get to a point to where which pick your poison is back to that. And that's that's not good because it's poison speaking a moment in defense of what aboutism, I think it's important. There's a voice here that defends it. I think what aboutism could be really bad. If what you're using it for is to exonerate your person. Right. Like if I'm going to say, Trump didn't do anything wrong. Because look what it cost us doing to call them. Both terrible in these situations. I think what aboutism someone appropriate. I think they both active bad, and you made a point off the air that, you know, first of all, you know, you're not supposed to necessarily expect as much out of a report of resum random reporters. You are the president. I think that's a fair point and Kosta, I think is very self aggrandizing, but they both are any breach decorum, which is the. For those of us that are concerned with the dissolution of discord civility. If it's happening, regardless of where it's happening. It's a bad thing. It doesn't help. But one of the things I would say about a Costas specifically because again, this is not to exonerate Trump at all because to me it sailed so long ago, it's not even worth bringing up like, that's how far I think that ship has sailed as far as civility and decorum, Donald Trump. But like as a reporter, you're supposed to be asking a question you want the answer to and that is what he was doing. To make a giant moment for himself. And who question could be could you define invasion or invasion force? That's a question that would've worked and like all these other reporters out there in the White House. Press corps. They like Trump either. But generally speaking, they're able to ask questions without doing with Jim Acosta does he really does stand out in that crowd. And again, I I don't I don't think there's any good people in in that in that back and forth. I don't think any of it's pretty I feel like, you know, this is goes to my point. I was talking about before is it a winner a loss. I feel like when you do find the rare moments when Donald Trump really does find a corm has that soft voice tone? It's after when he believes he won when he beats Ted Cruz finishes him off. And actually the one time I've seen Trump where I was like, oh is that like is that the real? The Hillary Clinton that speech right after he beat Clinton. He when he has those moments like this is it I'm the man I one he comes out and goes the exact opposite of what you'd think you'd think he'd be that would be the time he brags when he feels like he didn't win is when I feel like he gets most successive. He was sort of in between last night, which is the story of last night. I think it was in between a lot of Republicans were really excited about it. Because you know, there were some results that were better than the worst case as well. But I mean to to find a point on it. But it's like if you if you care about are smaller government is less regulations is lower taxes. The thing the things that conservatives typically believe last night, you know, last night, the situation was better than it is today, you're going to have Democrats who are going to block every single thing you do in those areas to try to restrain that and there's nothing you can do about it now. So I can't look at this giant win for Republicans. I mean, they lost the house. It's a big deal. They're not gonna be able to pass one of the interest. Just watching last night. The media coverage from everyone declared victory simultaneous. Well, hey, good for America. Really good. Now. The Democrats won the Republicans what everybody wants actually winter news, emerges victorious. He retorted that's like going to, you know, track event at a high school. Everybody wins. Before we go to break. One of our sponsor my patriot supply. Of course, we did see that the Democrats just one and a house and here in Texas. It was nail biter. I think it was a little closer than we would have liked. You never know when a disaster is going to strike when Pelosi might be back speaker of the house. So it's always good to be prepared have some sort of emergency food supply. So my patriot supply. I mean, I don't know yet. What's going to happen? They've put out this this this great study that they commissioned on what they think will happen. What a Democratic Congress will mean. And I think it's pretty accurate. It doesn't mean anything good. But the economy is really where we really need to pay attention. 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Up next joy bonus overtime content from the news white matters available exclusively for podcast listeners and blaze premium subscribers become a premium subscriber at the blaze dot com slash subscribe. Andro. Right. Yeah. I am. So I mentioned earlier I don't feel like I'm a part of either team. I don't I don't like the the two party system. I don't like the two parties. I think right now we're living in a period where both of the parties have made this Faustian bargain with the American people of I will I will make you feel like you're part of something, and I will give you comfort in exchange for hatred, and that's what they're bound by just hatred of each other. So what I'm more intrigued by what the caucus in them are doing because neither of the parties really have a a ideology. That's that's a core motivator for both of them simultaneously that it's more like they're islands of different thought processes going on. So the ones that I was watching last night were the blue dogs the liberty caucus, these social democratic socialists and the problem solving caucus. So the liberty caucus Lawsom seats, which saddens me terribly. I would love it. If the liberty caucus was ascendant within the Republican party. This is the libertarians Justin Amash Thomas Massie who are probably the top two guys in there. Blew the election out of the water, which is amazing to watch. Because well as Massey is kind of kept his head now with Trump Ammash is of all over all over and that didn't work for most other Republicans. So that was kind of mixed results there the problem solving caucus if you're not familiar with this. This is something that I've been looking into the last few days bipartisan caucus, one of the one of the interesting things they're doing is. They're trying to get an internal regulation within the house that if two hundred ninety members agree on legislation that comes up for vote because right now, there's a threat that the speaker will just not bring up certain legistlation because an extremist might try and knock them out of the speakership. So actually when we talk about why can't we fix things? This is one of those reasons is that the whoever the speaker is at the time is fearful they are extremes and their party is going to get them. So we just can't pass the stuff they're working on that the Democrats fared, very well on the Republicans got absolutely hammered at most of the Republicans that were signed onto the problem problem solving caucus retired got primary early. We're lost the election or maybe not most. But. Maybe not most but a significant portion of them which I'm disturbed by because I would like to be thoughtful bipartisan people in both parties the blue dogs kind of held on they gained a couple of seats were there. So the blue blue dogs if you're unfamiliar with blue dogs blue dogs are the conservative wing of the Democratic Party. And it will are they there's about I think eighteen of them left. There's about eighteen do they consider a blue dog? I'm not going to let a baby two days after birth. Diana closet. What is the blue? I'm going to say, I think you guys would like blue dogs. They tend to be they tend to be very pro gun. They tend to be very pro national defense that tend to be cultural conservatives, although there is kind of weird overlap in that if you're defining yourself as a conservative democrat, and you might mean that you're fiscally conservative, very socially liberal, which I'm fine with where you might be the other way around where you're actually very socially, socially, conservative, very fiscally spendthrift. But that said, though, they do represent kind of a mid point within the Democratic Party. And they used to be a drag affect on spending for the Democratic Party. They've picked up the picked up six seats. But that was out of out of fifteen candidates. So they didn't really well the one that the one that I'm bothered by the one that I'm concerned by is the ascent of the democratic socialists of America. They don't know how they did the state level. But they I think they ran five national candidates and they picked up two seats bringing up to three out of the five. They ran forty three and it may have been statewide as well forty three or forty six. Candidates for the national social so the democratic socialist. I mean, they picked up Alexandria Akhazia Cortes, and they picked up. I forget her name. She's from Michigan. She's the first ios lem congressman, which I'm fine with I'm much more concerned about the democratic socialism thing because. The problem with there's no problem with Islam. There is a problem with Islamists. And they're the ones that want a big government state to tell everybody we have to live by sharia law democratic socialism is alive and well in the Middle East it's called in his lung. With that. I'm just I'm disturbing General Tom Perez said that the socialists are the way forward this ahead of the Democratic Party. And they've gone from mentioned this last night they've gone from like three thousand members to fifty thousand members Trump came into office. I thought we'd kind of settle that on socialism. And it looks like that I think that's going to become a more and more dominant part of the Democratic Party. Three you said you had a cultural point to make. Yes, thank you for bringing this up. I noticed in watching the election coverage people are it's all about diversity, very important that we have diversity. And I notice I mean, Sarah, I guess claim to be some some diverse background. I dunno. You say what I see here is a bunch of white people. That's what I yes, it is. She's mentos. I see a bunch of white people here. Eric. I see people who don't understand different cultures. And so I wanted to get the sample here of I went to seven eleven today, you can find lots of cultural things, and I found something I thought you guys might want to try try this little bit familiar with these things. They're called rap snacks. Now rap snacks a different wrapper on each on each bag. Here we go this. This one is fabulous New York deli cheddar wavy potato chips. We also have the rapid fabulous Abola. We also have this is Romeo. Miller's barbecuing with my Honey, which I thought might be. Pretty good. And then we also have here from Trina per honeydew cheese puffs. This is this like, I don't know about that. Is this is this weedy four rap? Yes version, this is the rat version these yes and see now we can fit in and understand nasty. I don't think I wanna try that's national one because that was one of the other things listening to media coverage of you know, who wanna wash one of the big things that was coming from a lot of more left. Leaning organization was like a ton of women picked up, and they kind of it was like a win for identity politics from where I'm sitting like, I don't I don't self as part of a white man electorate. I'm running on all the all the caucuses just mentioned all the stuff like that. And it was kind of that Rian trenched like it's not so much the actual political effect. That's what group part of that's CNN and MSNBC going off on. Hey, there's a first gay. There's a first Muslim there's a first this care about all of that. We run out of I like Jared polis who is the first openly gay governor of Colorado. What I find interesting. I liked your post jeered police was in the house liberty caucus. He was the only democratic member of the house liberty caucus. That's interesting to me. He's a libertarian leaning democrat. That's now holding office in Colorado. That's the coupe out. I did not know that didn't know that who cares about the gay fans. He's really big on these big. By the way. Great Gavin Newsom is also a big bitcoin guy. They relate tween, Colorado and. Formula? There may be a kind of a pro crypto movement here in these couple of states, and by the way as far as my favorite rapper. This is my favorite rapper my second rapper and this by far Trina. I don't know what you're doing these things they are not going. Biller your big Romeo. Miller be win with my Honey barbecuing. Barbecue. Honey, Barba, Quinn and Granville guys. I'm becoming diverse. Thank you was waiting the wrath annual. You are now you are now in the rap world. This is what people apparently this is how rappers eat your just your one hit single and one potato chip brand away from getting. Yeah. Okay. Work on it really quickly before we go. Of course, we know now Jeff Sessions as out who do you wanna see to take his place? Glenn? Nobody I want somebody who's actually just a neutral party that is just going to enforce the law. That's what I would like. I really haven't absolutely no name for you. But I would say that you know, like. I me. I mean, I wouldn't mind letting getting Lindsey Graham has had a couple of good weeks. People are threat run all of these guy like he's conservative here. We is the worst Senator Senator I'd love him out of the Senate and good conservative in South Carolina. So I would prefer that. I don't really have a name. But I would say we do have to remember. This is totally his call right like whether he's being investigated or not whether whether the politics play out well for for Trump or not it's his call. He can do it whenever he wants. He obviously waves. About beforehand. It's been saying as soon as selection is over there's going to be a lot of changes coming. I would like Romeo Miller. It'd be attorney General Andrew, I'm sure you're going to pick some crazy. Libertarian hardcore judge Judy. She's been on the bench long time. I think is a very good chance. We actually are living in a sitcom think not say that because I could see him picking Janine Pirro. Yeah. All right. Remember to tweet us questions and comments in the blaze y for podcast listeners. That's W H Y you feel like you're kind of like that last seen with Ghostbusters. Clear your mind. It's going to be the marshmallow, man. Been Butler just wanted to say thank you for the great coverage, and he really appreciated the crossover conversations that we had last night is like, yeah. I heard a lot a lot of positive feedback on the crossovers with crtv and daily wire Newsmax as well. Royal, I really have appreciated your coverage as well. A lot of frequent flyer miles. I think I've got a free trip to Tulsa, very good. A lot of your hair's messed up a lot of talent yesterday that you're going to be joining us now full still going. No he said yesterday. That was crazy. He's gonna start a podcast something's wrong something's off with Andrew Heaton, which was up next Monday. Comes up Monday podcast daily. You're gonna love it. And then one more the blaze. Why question from saves eighty four was this election where the American people finally told celebrities to stay out of our politics. It seems that the star power of so many failed this time around. Yeah. But that was twenty sixteen when Donald Trump was elected that was when we told them that we didn't care. Just didn't listen they're not going to ever. Stop listening one interesting tidbit on this before we go alyssum Milano came out publicly, and and said, she's not going to speak it any women's movement or women's rights, whatever that movement is that women's March moving and let till they distance themselves from Linda Sarsour because of her her comments, Eric. Eric. Interesting. Just like I didn't see these delicious chips from rapper Romeo. Miller question for today. Does Jim Acosta deserve to have credentials revoked or his actions toward the White House eight and today's press conference. I hope none. If you say that he does I hope that you don't I think we're all in agreement here that that would be that would be he could be fired by CNN. But eventual shouldn't put out a statement supporting ten percent raise for that. Probably the same time. They'll be the critical about what was going on at FOX last week. I mean, there's no consistency companies. All right. Thanks for tuning tomorrow. Thanks. Good. On like what you're hearing become a blaze premium subscriber and watch the show anytime anywhere live or on demand. Go to the blaze dot com slash subscribe start watching today.

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Midday Brief for Friday, November 16th

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Midday Brief for Friday, November 16th

"Technology today has never been smarter. But smart only matters when you put it to good use together, we can build a smarter future for all of us. Let's put smart to work. Find out how at IBM dot com slash smart. I'm Charlie Turner in the news from the Wall Street Journal, a federal judge granted an emergency motion to restore the White House press credential of C N N correspondent Jim Acosta a victory for the network in a closely watched press freedom case CNN had sued the Trump administration to reinstate Mr. Acosta's credential saying barring him from the White House violated his first amendment right to gather news, the lawsuit could determine whether the government can ban individual reporters from public buildings Florida's protracted Senate election proceeded to a manual recount on Thursday while Republicans declared victory again in the race for governor the state's machine recount ended at three pm Thursday with Republican governor Rick Scott leading incumbent democratic Senator Bill Nelson by less than one quarter of one percentage. Point that's within the margin that legally triggers a manual recount, which must be completed by this Sunday. A couple of counties were unable to submit machine recounts. Reverting those counties to the unofficial results. They submitted last Saturday Oscar winning screenwriter William Goldman has died at the age of eighty seven Goldman wants screenwriting Oscars for all the president's men and Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid and wrote scripts for many well known films, including the Princess bride, the stepford wives a bridge too far chaplain and misery. He also contributed to a few good men and indecent proposal though. He did not take screen credit for them for more details and to wsJcom or the WSJ app.

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CNN's Jim Acosta on "Fake News" and Freedom of the Press

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CNN's Jim Acosta on "Fake News" and Freedom of the Press

"This is kick ASS news. I'm Ben Mathis. Summer is here and mosquitoes are two now grew up in Texas so I know how miserable mosquitoes can make life outdoors and even here in picture perfect California. They can still be a problem just the other day I was sitting in the back yard enjoying a coffee and I got eaten alive by those little bloodsuckers and even in the morning will folks. Don't let mosquitoes bug bug you this summer true green mosquito defense eliminates biting Mosquitos from Your Yard within twenty four hours of application. It's all backed by their mosquito. Free Guarantee Get your first true green mosquito defense application for just thirty nine ninety five or bundle your mosquito defense with a flea and tick service for just twenty dollars more visit true green dot com slash kick. That's T._R._U.. Green dot com slash kick restrictions may apply hi and now enjoyed the podcast for your campaign had an ad showing migrants climbing over walls it for it. They weren't actor not going to be doing. They weren't actors do you. I think they were actors are they weren't actress didn't come from Hollywood. These were these were people. This was an actual you know it happened a few days ago and they're hundreds of miles away though there are hundreds and hundreds of Manila that that's not an invasion honestly XLII. I think you should let me run the country you run C._N._N.. Or if you did it well your ratings. Let me ask you if I may ask. Are you worried enough. That's that's one of the other folks that's enough. Pardon me Ma'am Ah that's enough as president one guy may ask on on the Russian investigation. Are you concerned that that you may not concerned about anything with investigation because it's a hoax that's enough. put down the MIC president. Are you worried right about indictments coming down in this Mr President. I'll tell you what C._N._N.. Should be ashamed of itself having you working for them. You are a rude terrible person. You shouldn't be working for C._N._N.. Go ahead. I'm Ben Mathis welcome to kick ASS news. That was the now infamous exchange between President Donald Trump and C. N.. N.'s Jim Acosta during a White House press briefing last year in the president's campaign against what he calls fake news. C._N._N.'s chief White House correspondent has become public enemy number one. It's a status that was only amplified when the White House retaliated against Jim Acosta by actually doctoring a video of that twenty eighteen eighteen press conference and then using it to justify the unprecedented move of revoking Costa's White House Press Badge Fortunately C._N._n.. Quickly challenged the decision in court and a trump appointed. Judge ordered a cost US credentials restored in a a dramatic victory for freedom of the press. Jim Acosta may have won the battle but in his new book the enemy of the people a dangerous time to tell truth in America. He says the president's war on the media wages on today. Jim Joins me on the podcast to talk about Donald Trump's toxic relationship with the press and warns that it could have lasting consequences for America. He describes how former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer permanently doomed his credibility in his very first I press briefing and expresses a surprising sense of pity for Spicer but he says he has no such sympathy for his successor in the White House Sarah Huckabee he reveals some of the tricks that the White House uses to skew media coverage and avoid tough questions Christians and he says the president's war on the truth is changing journalism itself as reporters like him have to do double duty as real time fact checkers he shares some of the positivity bone chilling threats. He's received from trump supporters at rallies and on social media why he hoped that the hateful anti-media rhetoric would subside after the presidential election and how it only got worse during the twenty eighteen midterms indeed while he recalled some tense interactions with President Obama he says the relationship between the president and the press has never been nearly as bad as it is right now however Jim suggests that trump actually enjoys sparring with him in the press room and that the president used his dramatic demonization of the media <unk> as nothing more than an act intended to please his base a theory seemingly validated by conversation he once had with trump insider hope Hicks loss according to Jim Trump has a tell for when he's lying and when he's losing losing coming up with C._N._N.. Chief White House correspondent Jim Acosta in just a moment Jim Acosta's C._N._N.'s chief White House correspondent then currently covering the trump administration he previously reported on the Obama Administration from the White House and around the world he regularly covers presidential press conferences visits by heads of state and issues impacting the executive branch of the Federal Government meant now Jim Acosta writes about covering the trump White House in a new book titled Enemy of the People a dangerous time to tell the truth in America and today he joins me on the podcast making me a braver man than Sean Hannity Jim Welcome. Hey thanks a lot really appreciate the time well. The book is called enemy of the people interesting choice of title. I is this your way of taking ownership over the president's slur against C._N._N.. Or what was your intention with that decision well. I think we wanted a highlight. <hes> you know the folks at Harpercollins approach me about this book and and it was essentially around the time that Sarah Sanders would not disagree with the president's use of the term the enemy of the people and I had been kicking around the idea of a book and they approached me and they said Hey. Would you like to call it. This and I thought you know that's that's a good idea. I mean I don't like <hes> using that expression. I think it's wrong to refer to any segment of American Society Diety as the enemy of the people or the enemy and so in a sense. I think the title is <hes>. You know it's helpful because I think it's going to help us remember a time. In this country. You know several years from now two years down the road when the president of the United States thought it was okay to refer to people as the enemy <hes> you know folks will say well your reporter. You shouldn't off your opinion on these sorts of things I think I'm well within my lane as a straight news reporter and saying that's wrong. The president wouldn't refer to us that way and how did C._N._N.. Feel about your writing this book. Were there any concerns that you might be poking the bear well you know as a as a White House correspondent you do have to poke and prod. I mean that's what you do right. I mean <hes> folks <hes> don't sit there at home and expect affect us to be stenographers for the President <hes> and just you know lovingly report <hes> what our dear leader does on a daily basis. That's not how things are done in the United States. <hes> and I do like to remind people of that from time to time no matter who's in the White House we are supposed supposed to be somewhat. <hes> you know an adversarial relationship with the administration people don't want us to be a propagandists or apologists or the house organ for any administration and so I think the the folks at C._N._N.. Understood that <hes> that's the approach I bring to the White House every day and that's the approach I bring to the book <hes> you know as I write in the book you know it is a blunt assessment of this administration but I think there have been things going on in the first two years of Donald Trump's <hes> term in office here that that requires some very tough scrutiny and tough reporting and that's what I bring to the book but it certainly appears that this adversarial relationship is more adversarial than before. Give me an idea of how outside the norm this is <music> previously in your most contentious interactions with President Obama are other presidential candidates as that relationship ever gotten as vicious as it is now well. I I'll take you back to <hes> a g twenty summit that Barack Obama had AH president <hes> this was back in November of two thousand fifteen <hes> we were in Turkey and Isis was running rampant across Iraq and Syria and it was at a news conference there were I asked Barack Obama <hes> why can't we take out these bastards and <hes> in you know in talking about Isis and so that was a pretty strongly worded question. There were folks who thought it was over the top at the time there are certainly people inside the Obama White House who thought it was over the top. I write about that in the book <hes> but you know Barack Obama never called called the press fake news or the enemy of the people and so I as I write in the book a different kind of president requires a different kind of playbook for journalists and for citizens and you know if the president thinks it's okay to refer to the press as the enemy mice. uh-huh strong senses is that there should be a reasonable expectation that there's going to be some tough scrutiny. When trump took office? Did you have at least some hope that the angry anti-media rhetoric of the campaign was going to dissipate and if nothing thing else just as a practical matter after all you're GonNa be stuck together for a while. Then perhaps the White House might foster more cordial if not actually collegial working relationship with the press why as I write in the book I was out there on the campaign trail and saw Donald trump pat rally after rally refer to us as the Disgusting News Media The Dishonest News Media Liars Scum <hes> thieves criminals. I think I've I've thought of all of the slurs that he used against us. <hes> you know and we would go into these arenas and people don't realize this. If you don't go to the trump rally you don't understand this we would go into these arenas and there'd be like twenty or thirty of us in the press corps and there would be ten fifteen thousand people screaming at us and you know as I write in the book you know there are times when it felt like this wasn't America anymore because you go to the shopping mall you go to a restaurant and people screaming at one another and calling each other names and that sort of thing and you know here we were we're at a political rally and being treated in this fashion and so I was very <hes> pessimistic about the chances that Donald Trump would somehow <hes> transform into this you know inclusive you know figure reaganesque type figure that a lot of I think pundits and people and conventional wisdom Washington were hoping for there were a lot of folks who thought you know the weights of the in the majesty of the Presidency would rest upon his shoulders and transform and transform into into one of our founding fathers or something like that. I just didn't think that was ever GonNa come to pass because of the way <hes> he behaved out on the campaign trail and you know you don't have to talk about just the way he treated the press. This is somebody who said I could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and get away with it. Somebody who referred to Mexican immigrants as rapists and criminals said the John McCain wasn't a war hero I mean we can go on and on about all these things so I didn't have a whole lot of hope that that that type of individual somebody who behaves in that manner would somehow change because you know he had been handed the keys to the Oval Office going back to the animosity of the rallies. What was more chilling for you? The faceless threats that you were getting via email l. and social media or having people within striking distance of you at these rallies threatening you or chanting C._N._n.. Is Fake News and go away and whatever other kind of things they said well certainly the way we're treated at the rallies. <hes> is not good and it can be menacing at times and I you know I write about that in the book you know there was one rally in Tampa where you know about seventy or eighty people all around me you know chanting all sorts of things <hes> you know wearing t shirts that say f the media and that sort of thing <hes> but you know the the other thing that is important that we recognize and it's one of the reasons why I wrote this book. I think the American people have a right to know about this that the journalists reporters the anchors people who cover this president on a daily basis. They've I've been subjected to a deluge of this kind of hostility on their social media accounts. I write about this from time to time in the book you know if there's a big <hes> contentious exchange between me and the president or something that his supporters don't like I can go into to my instagram. My twitter feeds my facebook feeds and I can see all sorts of horrific messages of flat out death threats. <hes> I received about one a week now <hes> <hes> you know as a reporter covering this White House and you know ah they don't mince any words here talking about decapitating you setting you on fire castrating yields hanging you <hes> and that sort of thing I mean very vivid a vicious kind of stuff and you know the question that I ask is is is this the kind of political culture that we want to hand off to the next generation of Americans remember when we were growing up our parents and grandparents would say I wanNA leave <hes> to the kids <hes> a better country than the one I got folks are aged. Just don't talk like that anymore and we really need to go back and I think recapture some of that because it's been lost in our society and I think that's resulting in a very coarse and nasty political culture. That isn't doing anybody any good yen. It's shocking to read in this book about some of the precautions that you've I've had to take particularly during the most contentious moments with the White House when you describe tossing a football with your son in the street and having to have an armed security man standing there with your front yard yeah and you know when the pipe bomb a suspect backed was arrested right after <hes> you know pipe bomb was sent to C._N._N.. <hes> you know it was discovered that on this individuals <hes> twitter account he had been directing death threats at me and you know one of those death threats had an image of decapitated goat <hes> and and so on and so it was pretty nasty stuff at that point I was assigned more bodyguards and I already had a going with me to rallies. I have one or two going with me to rallies before <hes> towards the end of the midterm campaign encyclop- four bodyguards with me at every rally and I just thought to myself my God. This is over the top you know how is it that I need four bodyguards just to go to a political rally <hes> and then after our our press pass case <hes> where we so you know one and you know got my press pass back. It was on that day that somebody tweeted kill Jim Acosta and at that point I needed round the clock security for about seventy two hours and that is you know when I lay out that detail in the book where I'm throwing the football oh with my son in the front yard and there's a guy with a gun on his belt fifty feet away <hes> part of the security detail that was given to me we were way out of control the rhetoric gotten way out of control in this country if reporters need bodyguards and security around on the clock because they do stories or say things in live shots that the president and his people don't like that's out of control and I think it's not you know people say oh you that that's terrible Jim Acosta wire you. You're going way out of your lane on as a reporter you being a commentator and someone no. I'm just describing exactly what's going on right now and I think people need to recognize that this is a way outside the norms of normal presidential behavior normal political behavior in our society and when trump supporters get aggressive with you at these rallies. How do you handle that? Do you ignore them or do you sometimes engage well. One of the things I learned at these rallies is if you don't engage with them. If you don't go and talk to them they take it as a challenge and they WANNA kick it up a notch even more so <hes> <hes> it's sort of been an anthropological experiment for me <hes> and so what I've done is I have decided that at these rallies to go up and talk to these folks that folks want me to come up and take a selfie or sign a t shirt or something like that. I'm happy to do it. <hes> sometimes take the Selfie and then they'll give me the middle finger after they get their Selfie <hes> but I'm I'm happy to do it because I think folks want to get things off their chest and I remember talking to this. One Woman in Columbia South Carolina and I write about this in the book where she tells me. I need to stop asking asking somebody stupid questions because I'm GONNA start a civil war and people are going to start shooting one another and I'm thinking to myself my goodness. Our folks are so emotionally invested in this president that you know you can't ask questions without without provoking you know armed conflict in this country that just doesn't make any sense and one of the things that I discovered <hes> throughout this process and covering this president going to his rallies is I'll go to these rallies and then people will say to me essentially what they just. I saw on Fox News that night before or what they've been reading on social media. It's almost <hes> they've you know they've absorbed the information they've absorbed the attacks on us in conservative media and they regurgitate it back to us to our our faces at these rallies and you know one of the things that I outlined in the book is that there is sometimes a cause and effect between you know the the way they lash out at us and conservative media and sometimes in the trump campaign and in the behavior that we see at the rallies and it's it's disturbing now. I can take it. You know I've been doing this for twenty. Five years. I've covered you know went to the Iraq war and Baghdad covered that they're covered natural disasters covered Hurricane Katrina four presidential campaigns. I think I've seen a lot and experienced a lot and can take a lot but my sense of it is is that people need to understand that this is going on so they can talk to their fellow Americans and say you know what I I understand you. You love the president you have that Raga Hat <hes> you're. You're nice person. God bless you but don't treat get your fellow American like they're the enemy or talked to them. In ways that you wouldn't talk to your family members. You say that the animosity at the press was far worse during the midterms in two thousand eighteen than it had been during the two thousand sixteen election particularly at rallies a why do you think that is I think to some extent Dallas my own personal observation during the two thousand sixteen campaign I had not been isolated by the president as somebody who is a big adversary of his you know when that happened at the press conference in January two thousand seventeen when he said you are fake news <hes> it really you know kicked up a notch for me <hes> back in two thousand sixteen. I think to some extent a lot of folks didn't think he was going to win. He didn't think he was GonNa win and so there were I think there was a sense was at the time that was basically you know all. This is just more of his reality T._v.. Schtick it's harmless. He's not GonNa Win Anyway. So you know what anything goes at these rallies and then he won and I think a lot of folks got emotionally. Invested into him and I think what they saw coming in the midterms was the potential for <hes> Judgment Day where you know his some of his <hes> political <hes> you know I think capital that he has here in Washington Washington was about to be you know taken away from him. You know the Republicans we're GONNA lose power in the House and I think folks sense that and there's maybe a sense of desperation on his side and we saw that towards the tail end of the mid-term election cycle where he was really ratcheting out the attacks on the press and on immigrants you know that was a big part of his midterm strategy going after immigrants and I think that added to a lot of the volatility that we saw out there on the campaign trail to go back to the earliest days of this his presidency some might say that things got off on the wrong foot right from the start when former White House press secretary Sean Spicer used his very first press briefing to falsely insist that trump's inauguration crowd was the biggest in history. Do you think that he was ever able to recover his credibility with the press after that. I really don't think so I think at that moment <hes> his credibility was shattered. <hes> with the White House press corps you know when you your very first performance in that briefing living room and and maybe I hold that breathing room up in higher esteem or higher regard than than many Americans do <hes> but I think it's a it's a it's a pretty important and special place you know press secretaries and presidents have come into that briefing room over over the years during some major crises and it's our expectation from the perspective as a White House reporter is that when the press secretary or the president comes into that room that they're going to give you honest accurate reliable information and for Sean on Spicer to come in there and just tell this huge Walker I mean it was I call him the book the first lie because you know was the very first big lie of this administration. I remember you know it was a very <hes> first full day of his term in office. He went out to the C._I._A.. People don't remember this but he stood in front of a memorial to fallen C._I._A.. Officers and started tearing into the press because we <hes> he said misreported his crowd size on purpose. Now where I mean you could look at aerial photographs and put them up with side by nightside with Barack Obama's he didn't have as many people his inauguration. You can chalk that up to whatever reasons not a big deal that he didn't have a bigger crowd size but this got under his skin and that clearly was something that you know drove the president descent Sean Spicer into that room to scream scream at us and Beretta's and claimed that the president had the biggest inauguration crowd size in the history of this country and you know one of the things that I write about in the book is that it was so clearly I mean it was so easily disproven in the hours that followed that statement you know we could just go on Google and find <hes> various ways to disprove the things that he had said in the briefing room and that seems to be the case with so many of their falsehoods and half truths and lies is that you can just go on Google and find out fairly quickly that much of what they're telling you isn't true and so you know this is a problem that we've had ever since the administration began. The Washington Post fact checker recently concluded that the president has uttered some ten thousand false or misleading statements since coming into office. That's five thousand thousand a year my God that's more than ten a day and so you know the that has made us all fact checkers and real time we've spent a lot of our time and energy from the moment we wake up and look at the notifications on our lock screen on our phones to the time we go to bed. We spend much of our time fact checking this president fact checking the people who work for them and I think that that is that is to their detriment that is that is affected them and people say oh well the press the press the press we're not the ones making up these falsehoods they are and we have to do our jobs in fact check them and my goodness what would be our sense of the truth and reality in in this country if we let all of those robbers just hang out there. I just don't think that's doing our job as reporters and going back to Sean it really affected his credibility ability when he first came into that briefing room did this and just to add to that not to Belabor the point but when the mullahs report comes out and it's found that Sarah Sanders had admitted to F. B. I. Agents that she passed on false information in the White House briefing room. That's in the mall report. She passed on false information. That again is another one of those episodes where I think it sort of you know it cements this legacy of dishonesty on behalf of this administration in ways that we just have never seen anything like this before and and I was surprised that several times in your book you express sympathy and maybe even pity for former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer. He's a guy who lied to your face day after day. Why would you waste any sympathy on someone like that? Yeah I guess I you you know I know people have said that to me and I don't know I grew up in this area and I you know grew up with kids. <hes> whose parents worked at the State Department and worked at Congress members of Congress and my my parents were blue collar <hes> workers and so I didn't have that kind of upbringing <hes> but I try to as best as I can see the human side of all of these characters that you know flash on our TV screens <hes> on a daily basis the cast of characters in this current drama that we're you're watching right now. I knew Sean Spicer before he became the White House press secretary and he just wasn't this kind of guy. You know you would call them up when he worked at the R._N._C.. He'd answer your call or call you back. He'd give you information. He was a decent guy he might poke some fun Achy and that sort of thing thing and he had that sort of sense of humor <hes> but he wasn't this this guy that he became as White House press secretary in one of the things that you would hear from time to time as you know. Who is this Sean Spicer? I don't know this Sean Spicer and a lot of the same questions were asked about Sarah Sanders Zander's people would say whatever happens Sarah Sanders you know she was a different person before she worked at the White House. There's something about Donald Trump when you get pulled into his vortex it changes who you are and I think one of the things that <hes> that Sarah Forgot <hes> and that Sean Spicer Forgot <hes> is that when you're the White House press secretary you work on behalf of the American people you don't work for the trump organization. You don't work for one of Donald Trump's golf courses or hotels you work for the American people people and we are paying their salaries. You know the White House press secretary make something like on an eighty thousand dollars a year. That's a whole lot of money in Washington D._C.. Or really anywhere and I think for that kind of money in that kind of prestige <hes> you need to keep in mind that so you don't just work for the person in the Oval Office you work for everybody and I noticed that you have considerably less sympathy for Sarah Sanders than you did for Sean Spicer. Why well you know with Sarah? I mean this is just I you know it takes dishonesty to to a new dimension. You know <hes> like something out of stranger things you know upside down world or something like that you know when they took away my press pass. I'll never I'll never forget this. You know they put out a doctor video to try to justify I the revocation of my press pass you know and they they put this video out there. I think it came from infowars or something like that and was sped up to make it look like I'd karate chopped this person who came for the microphone. Everybody remembers that and I just thought you know well. If you need Dr Video to prove your case you must not have a very good case to begin with and you know it just said to me you know we talk about Nineteen eighty-four George Orwell and and a lot of this conversation began when President Trump came into office and ah you know to some extent that you could say that's hyperbolic. That's over the top we shouldn't you know that may feel that way to you because you don't like Donald Trump and he you might find him reprehensible and so on George Orwell Nineteen Eighty-four Gimme a break but when the White House press secretary he puts out a doctor video <hes> of something that they claim is a reporter you know assaulting <hes> an intern to justify the revocation of a press pass. I think that crosses into George Orwell nineteen eighty-four territory and you know I'll tell you one of the things that we need to worry about heading into this twenty twenty campaign and I'm not sure a lot of people are aware of this or focused on this. There is something called deep fakes <hes> that has been talked about in the press in the last several weeks or so where political operatives political political campaigns now have the technological capability where they can manipulate video and audio in in a way where it you can't even tell anymore that the video has been manipulated and so what that the the potential for that sort of thing to really elite wreak havoc and our political system I think is quite significant and it should worry a lot of people you remember just not too long ago. Nancy Pelosi remember when they slow down the audio of Nancy Pelosi Ramaker Sound <hes> you know as if she you know something was wrong with her <hes> you know that is the kind of manipulation of video and audio that I think should cause a lot of great concern out there to people we're GonNa take a quick break and then we'll be back with more with C. N.. N.'s Jim Acosta when we come back in just a moment. If there's something interfering with your happiness or preventing you from achieving your goals better help online counseling can help better help offers licensed professional counselors who were specialized in issues such as depression anxiety relationships trauma anger family conflicts l._G._B._T.. 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I'm glad you brought up that part of the book because it is something that I will always remember myself. I you know I was coming out of this rally in Charlottesville West Virginia and all the sudden this woman pounces and says I'm so and so with infowars we'd like to talk to you about Alex Jones being banned on social media and so on don't you think he deserves <hes> First Amendment Rights and so on and we had this lengthy debate about it and I said listen. I don't think you can put info wars in the same category as C._N._N.. Remember member just recently INFO wars was making this claim out there that the sandy hook school shooting was a hoax my God you know folks. We gotta get back to reality that is way out of control false negative just you know completely made up out of whole cloth stuff and has no not tethered to reality in any sort of way. People can't put that on the same plane as C._N._N.. That just is that doesn't hold any water <hes> when I think we need to get back to in this country is people having a little more faith in one another you know the person in the Raga Hat woman in the pink resist t shirt were all playing for the same team. We're all Americans and the sense of it is is that you know if you have a conspiracy theorist and chief as president student. You'RE GONNA have a lot of conspiracy theorists <hes> supporting him and I saw this at the campaign rallies where you would see the people and <hes> the Cunanan t shirts and so on again another one of these false conspiracy theories that that are just not tethered to anything in the real world and I don't know where it comes from or why people <hes> subscribe to these points of view but it is disturbing and I think what folks need to realize out there is that there's a reason why you have brand name. <hes> you know long lasting lasting you know traditional news outlets out there that have been doing the work day in and day out since we were little kids and you know the networks the cable networks <hes> the major newspapers around the country. These are still good reliable sources of information nation and I know people might say well. That's just because you work for them now. I mean you know these news. Organizations are filled with a lot of human beings who were exactly like you. We you know we put our pants on one leg at a time we were all raised in communities and <hes> we're you had you know teachers teachers who loved us and and you know all those sorts of things and we're just as American as everybody else and I think folks have lost sight of that. I remember this one campaign. Rally were a man came up to be and he said I'm really surprised that you said the pledge of allegiance there and I thought to myself well of course I said the pledge of allegiance I went to elementary school in Virginia where he said the pledge of allegiance every day but people have been <hes> misled to such a large extent about what we do and who we are that we've become foreign into our fellow Americans. We've been dehumanizing de Americanized by the president of the United States and folks will say why you know why is it that the image of the press is so low. Why are you know well if you had the president of the United States running down on a daily basis yeah? I think that there's a there's a strong chance that folks might have a more negative attitude about us. Yeah it was heartened to read that there were some brief moments of light here where I think there was one person who approached you. Rally Hood flipped you off previously at another rally and he actually actually came up and apologized to go back to kind of the tricks of the trade that the White House uses to control the story not everything rises to the level of a doctored video but <hes> you talk about how they use other tactics to either avoid I answering tough questions or to stack the deck with softballs from quote unquote friendly media outlets. Can you talk about some of those yeah. I you know I write about this. In the book you know the the senior administration officials all be one time that <hes> the press secretary very hat strategy called stick to the middle where you know they would just call on reporters in the middle of the briefing room and they try to stay away from the troublemakers on the sides and you know my seat was on the side of the briefing room so I suppose they were talking about me <hes> but yeah you know one of the things that Sean would do and Sir would do when she was press secretary they would start the briefing by calling on Fox News and then they call it a mainstream news outlet and then they go back to <hes> conservative media and sort of Ping Pong back and forth between conservative press and traditional additional press <hes> throughout these briefings. It's very different than what happened during the Obama Administration where they would start with the Associated Press and then go to Reuters then maybe take a question from a television network <hes> they they use <hes> to some extent members of the conservative media as a way to shield <hes> themselves from scrutiny and I think also to lower the temperature because if they go to traditional mainstream reporter who starts asking tough questions okay hold on a second. I need a time out so I can you know rest my brain for a few seconds or something and then they'll call on somebody who's GonNa ask a sort of self serving softball question and they're. They're fairly shameless about it. They're willing to do it because they know it helps advance their agenda and I suppose some of that is understandable but it is a tactic that they a US no question about it and another more amusing tactic that the White House is used. You say that they spring a mystery guests on you in the press briefing so yeah you guys have to waste more time on their chosen topic of the day instead of more pressing issues that's right and and <hes> you know there have been times when you know they they would bring somebody into the room and think that well this is going to control the message for the day and then the message gets out of their control. <hes> you know Stephen Miller is one of the examples that I bring up. They brought them into the briefing. One day <hes> to talk about how they wanted to change the legal immigration system not the illegal illegal immigration system in our country and you know I didn't think Stephen was going to call on me and finally at the very end of the briefing he calls on me and I said well you know I isn't what you're talking about. Contrary to the tradition of welcoming immigrants in this country and what about the Statue of Liberty what about the poem that's <hes> you know inscribed there <hes> on the statue a Statue of Liberty. Give us your tired your poor your huddled masses yearning to breathe free <hes> <hes> you know Emma Lazarus's poem the new Colossus and I'll. I'll never forget what Stephen said he said well. That's not what the Statue of Liberty is all about the that poem was added after the Statue of Liberty was was put there and I told Stephen that day I said that's national park revisionism. You know <hes>. Are you trying to tell me that the statute of liberty does not stand as a symbol to immigrants because that's not at all what I remember growing up in this country but it is an example of how they are fully comfortable coming into that White House briefing breathing room or you know anywhere really pulling the wool over our eyes and telling us up up as down in black white a real is fake. <hes> that is part of this Orwellian. You know tradition that we've seen put in place over here at the White House and it's one that you know if you're a reporter <hes> you eat you have two choices and I talk about this throughout the book I call it a question of what would you do <hes> as a reporter on the White House briefing room I suppose you could just take it and just you know they're going to pull the wool over our eyes and B s s you can just report that as fact and you know go cash your paycheck and go home and crack open a beer and go about living your life but my sense of it is my God. We can't have a country where you know you just accept these half-truths and falsehoods also lies coming from the administration and then pass that onto the American people as as reality. That's not doing your job as a reporter and you know a lot of folks in our business. They spend a lot of time worrying and wringing their hands over what the people in Conservative media will say about us and our goodness Sean Hannity said something about us last night and you know that's that's tough I I don't. I don't really give a crap with those people. Say about me and say about what we do. I'm just as worried about and more worried about what regular alert folks at home are thinking on a regular basis. You know folks who aren't you know died in the wool <hes> partisans on any side of the political spectrum and they're the ones who are writing us and telling us because I get emails and messages from folks all the time saying you know. Ask Follow up question. If the person before you <hes> doesn't get their question asked answered. <hes> you know make sure you follow up and get the truth out of these guys. They're they're folks who come to us all the time and say keep the pressure on. Don't stop keep trying to get answers out of those folks. We have to be just as worried about what those folks think as <hes> what the you know the people who call us names on conservative media so that's I look at it as we're doing our jobs for the American people and you know damn the torpedoes and that interaction with Stephen Miller made for one of the most memorable moments that I can remember in the press room and your back and forth with President trump have almost become legendary by now <hes>. Do you think the president enjoys sparring with you I think he he does I think he sees that it excites his base. It's something that he finds useful. If he can demonize us <hes> he can change the story line of the day. You know I was in <hes> Japan just over the weekend we had a press conference and I asked a tough question when you know what's what's with you cozying up with all these dictators at these summits and you know Kim Jong Hoon while we met with him and in North Korea but Vladimir Putin Mohammed Than Salmon <hes> you know <hes> you know all these <hes> Xi Jingping from China all these dictators and autocrats what's with you backslapping and you know cozying up to these guys any immediately started asking me about my book and <hes> <hes> and I said well Mr President you know get your autograph copy of make make sure I get once you get back to Washington but then I went back to pressing him on the Saudis and how they were essentially found to have been <hes> responsible for the killing of the journalist Jamal Kashogi somebody somebody who lived in Virginia right outside of Washington and you know I think that to some extent you know he finds this as sort of as an extension of his time on Reality T._v.. You know if you can mix it up with one of the CAST members <hes> as he may see it in the White House press corps you know he can <hes> you know juices base I suppose but I don't look at it that way you know he might want to you know throw out some zingers and that sort of thing but my sense of it is is that we still have to keep pressing forward and try to get answers from him <hes> but yeah we do have these these back and forth. I think he enjoys a sparring to as I write in the book <hes> he he loves the coverage but he hates the scrutiny he and there's a revealing moment in the book that takes place. I think later on the same day that trump called you fake news in February two thousand seventeen. You get a call from hope Hicks. What did he say to you? And how did you interpret what she was telling you yeah we had this press conference. It was his first press conference as President and it was in the East Room of the White House and you know we were talking about the firing of the National Security Adviser Michael Flynn <hes> and the Russia investigation and he was calling the Russia investigation so on a fake news and he came to me and <hes> he said well. I'm thinking about changing your name from fake news the very fake news and he got a laugh out of the crowd there in in people in the room laughed and it's fine. It's funny I think he's got good comic timing one of his one of the things I think you could give him credit for <hes> but then after the press conference is over. I get a phone call and it's Hi Jim. It's hope Hicks. I thought Oh my goodness. I hope what's going on. This is somebody who's one of his top aides and worked for him during the campaign and she goes Jim. I just want you to know the president thought you were very professional today and he said Jim gets it and I'm thinking to myself itself. Wait a minute. He just called me very fake news. During the press conference he got all animated about the Russian investigation and how he thinks everything is unfair and how we're covering them and so on but then after the press conference is over. I get a compliment from one of his top aides who said he's I'm very professional national. Jim Gets it I think with that was an indication of and I confirmed this with other sources of mine is that early on in the administration the president saw much of what he does as an act and the way he goes after the press is sort of stick that he's continuing genuine from his reality T._v.. Days you're you're fired. <hes> became your fake news and so on and as a right throughout the book and I try to you know draw this line from the beginning of the administration to the midterms it becomes I think something that gets out of his control rhetoric. It's out of his control. He goes from fake news to the enemy of the people and I could see it in my own social media feeds and I could you know I can see it at the rallies hostility levels going up <hes> he he was trying trying to escalate things I think to some extent to see if we would back down in our coverage just the other day when he was with Kim Jong Un he was bashing our coverage and so on saying he doesn't get enough credit for all the stuff but what he doesn't recognize it and I think some of his top people don't recognize is that he directs hostility at us. It's then absorbed by many of supporters who then lash out at us in ways that make us feel endangered and do I take any joy in writing a book where I lay out some of the dangerous for reporters out there. No I don't but the reason why did it is because if if God forbid we have a situation in this country were reporter is seriously injured or killed directly as a result of the president using this kind of rhetoric then I think at that point the United it states of America ceases being the kind of country that you and I grew up with we then crossed the line we cross into this new territory where we join these other countries around the world were reporters are no longer safe doing their jobs and my God. What kind of world is that going to be at that point? We're supposed to be this beacon of hope and freedom all over the world. The rest of the world is watching what we're doing right now and if reporters are no longer safe doing our jobs. What does that impact going to be on news organizations here in the U._S.? I'll tell you what it's GonNa be. You're GONNA have some news organizations position saying well. You know maybe we should not be tough on this president. May We should be tough on the administration because somebody got hurt and at that point then you don't have the the kind of scrutiny that I think comes with being the leader of the free world and being the president he added states rates. That's a job. I'm sorry if you can't take it Mr President but that's a job that comes with intense scrutiny and if you can't handle that job without lashing out at the press in ways that endangers them then I think you know serious questions have to be asked as whether or not this person should be president of the United States. Let me ask you this. You've had enough interactions with the president to have a pretty good sense of the man. Does he have any tells yeah I mean I and I write about this. <hes> you know there are moments when when he's calling his fake news and so on I'll give you another example <hes> after Charlottesville when president said there was blamed go around on both sides and then he corrected himself and gave this other statement a couple days later where he condemned the white supremacists Ramos's in the Nazis down in Charlottesville and it was after that where I said to Mr President. You said you were GONNA have a press conference today and he said <hes> well. We just had one and I said well. We didn't get to ask any questions. Can we ask you some questions and he said I. I like to take questions from real news your fake news and at that point I said we'll miss president. You spread some fake news yourself <hes> but you know when he when he uses that term fake news that almost always an almost every circumstance is a situation where his back is up against the wall. If you go back to the January twentieth seventeen press conference at trump tower when he was being asked about you know do the Russians have compromising information on you. That's when I used that term fake news almost every time you go back and look at every one of those press conferences where he he uses that term almost all of those circumstances he's in trouble and if he's calling us fake news as I say in the book it's sort of like a poker tell you know he's got a losing hand well. Let's talk about that now. Famous press conference after the midterms. You say that you had long. I've been preparing for the possibility that the White House might try to revoke your press credentials. Did you have any idea that that was going to be the day. I didn't expect it that day but I knew that there were signs that it could come <hes> there was an Easter Egg roll and twenty eighteen were asked but <hes> the president and a question and they didn't like it and Brad Par scale his campaign manager for Twenty Twenty said Jim Acosta should have his press credentials revoked and I ask them questions <hes> when the president met with Kim Jong UN in Singapore in two thousand eighteen and they didn't like a question question I asked <hes> in one of those sessions and Brad Karsh Kale was on twitter sank. Jim Acosta should have his credentials revoked and so there I do think they were planning to seeds there for what they were going to do but it was on that day right after the midterms <hes> we're in the East Room of the White House having a press conference and I asked the president about how he called <hes> that caravan of migrants an invasion <hes> heading up towards the border right before the midterms and he didn't like the question we went back and forth and that was when when the intern tried to retrieve the microphone from me and after it was over I went out did my live shot. Did my piece of that night went out for dinner later on in the evening to come back for one more live shot and that was when right before I got to the Secret Service Gate I saw the notification on my phone it wasn't to me was to everybody that my press pass had been revoked and it was <hes> it was a surreal moment because I once again unites. People people like to say well Jim. You shouldn't be a part of the story while at that at that point. I you know I I was part of the story. I had become the story and it wasn't a you know <hes> any fault of mine. It wasn't any of my doing it. You know that is what happened. My press pass had been suspended but I'll tell you C._N._N.. Did Not was not. Waiver at all we weren't wishy washy about what to do next. We immediately knew that our First Amendment case on our hands and we took the administration to court and we won and trump appointed judge a federal judge ruled in our favor and I'll tell you one of the most <hes> amazing things <hes> throughout my entire time covering this White House unfolded during that court case and I write about it in the book the President's own Lawyers Justice Department lawyers paid for with your tax dollars went into that courtroom before trump appointed federal judge and made the argument that the president of the United States can pick and choose who covers him at the White House. They made the argument President United States can decide if he doesn't like the reporting that you're doing doesn't like the covers that you're providing that they can revoke your press pass and tell you to get out now to me. That's not is that America. Is that the United States I think not I don't think we want a situation in our country where the president can do that and I'll tell you there would have been a ripple effect had the administration been successful. You would have had governors and mayors saying. I don't like this newspaper. I don't like this T._v.. Station and say listen you know <hes> president trump won his case and C._N._N.. Versus trump. Why can't we do it in Kansas City or in San Francisco and <hes> it would've put a real a chilling effect I think on our profession and on the ability of journalists to hold <hes> public officials accountable and thank goodness we won that case because had we lost that case? I think it would have been a real serious blow to the First Amendment and I'm not saying that <hes> somebody while I'm just patting myself on the back for this court case the White House Correspondence Association submitted a statement to the court <hes> that said <hes> you know the president of the United States is not doing his job at trump tower. He's not talking about kicking reporters at trump tower. He's talking about kicking reporters out of the White House two very different things and let me ask you this. Do you think that the White House Press Association could have done more not just in this situation but in other situations where the White House has tried to exert an unusual man of control control over the press well. It's a very tough situation because you know <hes> as the old saying goes you know they they have the furniture you know it's their White House and were reporters. They're showing up on a daily basis and so it's not exactly a level playing field in that regard guard you know I think they're probably could have been times here and there <hes> especially during the the trump campaign where you know they were saying some things that were just way over the top about the press where he was saying things that were not acceptable where you know press organizations could have said more. I think you know that could have been the case also during his first two years in office but the Correspondence Association was putting out statements from time to time and there's not a whole lot more you can do then provide statements <hes> you know as I write in the book you know initially they they did not put a statement out <hes> before we went into court <hes> and I talked to an official with the organization who said you know we were just trying to pull everybody together to do something and then they finally they eventually did which was which was very <hes> you know I it was well received on my end. That's for sure and one of the things I write about in this book. Despite you know some of my tangling with Fox News from time to Time Fox News was one of the very first organization media organizations to <hes> to join join us in our in our case and to back us in taking the administration to corporate 'cause I think they also recognize that conservatives are not going to stay in power forever and that you know it's not so good when the shoe's on the other foot you don't want a situation where you have a democratic administration coming and if you're looking at this from the Fox News perspective <hes> and they say you know well Donald Trump did it to C._N._N.. We're going to do it to you guys. <hes> I think people in this town recognized that you know we'd better hang together when it comes to these sorts of issues because you know you can't have administrations coming in and picking and choosing who gets to cover them. That's not how it works in Washington. That's not how it works in the United States as we wind down here. What's the relationship inch like between mainstream outlets in the press room like C._N._N.? And Conservative outlets not just Fox News or the Washington Times but some of the more fringe ones like Breitbart newsmax than occupy that center of the briefing Ingram well you know. I think that it's <hes> unmistakable <hes> there's been a big change no question about it. I mean you have <hes> you know I saw sub Gorka in the White House briefing room recently and he was there to do some talk radio stuff with President resident members of the administration <hes> they have sort of a backstage pass <hes> at this White House <hes> you know in ways that I've never seen before <hes> with any administration now you know Barack Obama and the Obama Administration and they liked M._S._N._B._c. sure that where they <hes> favorable to more favorable to M._s._N._B._c. than the C._N._n.. At times definitely I think so <hes> but what we've seen over the last couple of years has been pretty remarkable. You know the president initially during being <hes> the beginning of the administration would hold joint news conferences with the head of state and the two questions that he would take at this press conference with a foreign head of state one would go to Fox News and the other one would go to another conservative media outlet and then that would be the end of the press this conference and so there are a number of occasions where he was able to evade questions on the Russian investigation and so on mainly because they who they were picking and choosing for questions at some of these press conferences and so to some extent conservative media they've I've become and I don't like I don't take any joy in this but they've become propagandists and apologists for this administration they have. I think collectively formed what appears to be the infancy of state media in this country and and I think that you know we all respect the rights of a free press and so on I think you could see in some of those early warning signs <hes> a potential risk to our democracy if administration can come in and cobble together in essence a state media type of situation that doesn't really work for anybody <hes> <hes> I have to ask what's your initial impression of the new Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham <hes> you know I think she's off to a very good start. I will say this give credit where credit is due. I was over there in Seoul South Korea over the weekend <hes> when the president was meeting with Kim Jong Hoon and you know the North Koreans were trying to rough up the American press a little bit rough up some of the White House folks really trying to get us into that room and Stephanie Gresham you know kind of you see it in that video sort of barrels into one of those North Koreans and knocks him out of the way so our folks can get in there <hes>. I think that's a very welcome sign. It's an indication. That Stephanie understands that the job of press secretary is to work with the press in the long run that helps her boss. It's that's a good thing for her. Boss not a bad thing and I think she understands that and I thought it was a very <hes> welcoming sign a heading into her tenure as press secretary yeah she might be tougher on North Korea than the president she she might be an you know and the North Koreans are a tough bunch. I remember when I was in Singapore covering Kim Jong Hoon and they did the same thing to us. I was in the press pool that day and they came in after we had our shots established and someone came in and started elbowing us and pushing us around and a few of the folks in the press pool that day were really getting up in their grills and saying hey back off <hes> not that they could understand what we were saying but you know in North Korea there used to pushing the press around or whatever or they call you know their state media folks <hes> here in the United States <hes> you know we have very different tradition and we respect the rights of free press and I think it's good to see not just folks inside the White House. Press Corps recognized that when we're dealing with North Koreans but somebody in the White House press office absolutely will once more the book is called the enemy of the people a dangerous time to tell the truth in America Jim Acosta thanks so much for talking with me. A thanks so much really appreciate it enjoyed it. Thanks again to Jim Acosta for coming on the show order his new book the enemy of the people a dangerous time to tell truth in America on Amazon audible or wherever books are sold follow him on twitter twitter at at Kosta and see him reporting from the White House on C._N._N.. Whatever struggles you're facing from depression and anxiety to trauma and grief that our help can connect you with a professional counselor in a safe and private online online environment? It's so convenient can schedule secure video or phone sessions as well as Chattan text with your therapist and anything you share is completely confidential best of all. It's a truly affordable option. Gas Snooze listeners even get ten percent off your first month with the Discount Code kick so why not get started simply go to better help dot com slash kick and fill out a questionnaire to get matched with a counselor. 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"Now it's time for the last word with Lawrence O'Donnell evening line because he Rachel. It's the Rachel Meadow Primary Week here at M._S._N._B._C. which nobody votes that's right. They just listen they listen to candidates so listen to your interviews with these candidates. It's they will all be better inform voters by the end of the week well. I certainly hope I sort of enjoy long candidate interviews and they always keep me up both the night before and the night after so it is not something I can do as long as you know with twenty five candidates in the race indefinitely but I will keep trying and they keep you up the might after because you're going back and saying oh I should have and then I should've and then I should've yes and I imagine what a Woulda Coulda Shoulda could've gotten this so I if I hadn't started without if I'd gone this way if I should have followed up that way instead of that way you know how it is the sleepless life of the perfectionist. I know I'm fourteen. I looked like a thank you thank you. Locating Porter will join us again tonight. Many of you will remember how she grilled the Chairman and C._E._O.. Of J. P. Morgan Chase Jamie Dimon on how a single mother could possibly survive financially on the entry level wage J. P. Morgan Chase pays a single mothers and others in California district. Jamie diamond had no answer for that at all but congressman porter just got a very interesting letter from J. P. Morgan Chase that she will share with us later later in this hour also later in the hour we will see Savannah. Guthrie's very sad. Interview conducted this morning with a new accuser of Jeffrey Epstein who says that he began sexually abusing her when she was fourteen years old and that he forcibly raped her when she was fifteen years old did Jeffrey Epstein Rape Forcefully raped me the knew exactly what he was doing and I don't think cared what hurts even more so than if I wasn't afraid to come forward sooner than maybe he wouldn't have done it to other girls. I feel really guilty to this day. I feel really guilty. We will listen to more of that deeply disturbing interview later in the hour but first the most important thing to remember when reviewing today's news is something that is not part part of today's news something that wasn't mentioned in the Labor Secretaries press conference about why he decided not to prosecute Jeffrey Epstein for sex crimes when the Labor secretary was the U._S.. Attorney in Florida the most important thing to remember about all of the news today involving the sex crimes of Donald Trump's old friend Jeffrey Epstein and the refusal to prosecute those alleged crimes by Alex Acosta when he was a federal prosecutor is but Donald Trump is himself and accused sexual assaulter and a and an accused sex criminal he stands accused by dozens of women. Donald Trump does himself Gulf most recently donald trump was accused of deliberate forcible violent rape accused of that by the columnist and author aging cow and even more important than that than the accusations. The president of the United States is a confessed sexual assaulter. I moved in her. Actually you know she was Anna Palm Beach. I moved on her and I failed. I'll admit it I did join us. Mary's Mary's here tonight is there. That's the president of the United States and only that president of the United States would ever have considered appointing Alex cost to anything years after Alex Kosta was exposed exposed as the federal prosecutor decided not to prosecute Jeffrey Epstein and according to a Florida federal judge violated the law in the way that he handled the Jeffrey Epstein case I moved in her like and she was married and all of a sudden I see she's now the big phony only that president would have appointed Alex Acosta to a federal job of any kind because any other president would have seen gene that a day of reckoning was going to come eventually for Alex Costa's at his as it has now finally come but only donald trump wouldn't care about that day of reckoning about how Alex cost a handled a major sex crimes case piece against a rich old friend of Donald Trump's in palm beach you some cases kissing automatically directed to be the just kissing them like a magnet when you star they let you do it. You can do anything you want grabbing by the do anything that's Donald Trump's confession to sexual assault salt. You can do anything that's Donald Trump's description of the first sexually assault of moves he'd likes to make on women you can do anything and for Donald Trump that means you can get away with anything and it means his friends and his people should be able to get away with anything it means the White House staff can violate the Hatch Act whenever they want you can do anything that's the motto of the Trump White House and it certainly means that Donald Trump's labor secretary secretary could make a deal not to prosecute an old friend of Donald Trump's for sex crimes and the Labor secretary should be able to get away with that. Donald trump should be able to get away with choosing Alex Kosta as his Labor secretary because as you can do anything. I'm a little hug. Madonna got up. Okay absolutely Malania said this Alania said this was okay. That's the president of the United States who appointed Alex Acosta who held a press conference today in which he tried to explain his decision not to prosecute Jeffrey Epstein on federal charges in two thousand eight a major newspaper described the Epstein Prosecution Russian like this a Florida grand jury that is a grand jury convened by the District Attorney of Palm Beach County had charged Epstein with the lesser offense at that time the Epstein legal team was elated he would have avoided prison altogether but then the United States Attorney's office in Miami became involved at seen got an ultimatum plead guilty to a charge that would require tailed time and registration or face federal charges and that was the week more than ten years ago that Epstein went to jail after Alex Costa's press coverage today in which he blamed the. The very forgiving deal but he made with Jeffrey Epstein on the local Palm Beach Prosecutor Barry Krisher. Mr Krisher gave this statement to N._B._C. News. I can emphatically state. Mr Costa's recollection of this matter is completely rong the U._S. Attorney's office produced a fifty three page indictment that was abandoned after secret negotiations between Mr epsteins lawyers and Mister Acosta the state attorney's office was not a party to those meetings or negotiations creations and definitely had no part in the federal non-prosecution agreement and the unusual confidentiality arrangement that kept everything hidden from the victims no matter how many no matter how my office office resolve the state charges the U._S. Attorney's office always had the ability to file its own federal charges. Mister Acosta should not be allowed to rewrite history Barry Very Christie's statement makes the central element of Alex Acosta's defense today untrue the State Attorney's office was not a party to those meetings or negotiations indefinitely had no part in the federal non-prosecution agreement. If that is true that demolishes everything that Alex said today Alex the cost it was asked about a private meeting he had with one of Jeffrey Epstein's defense lawyers a meeting that many legal observers are calling improper and unethical. The meeting that was alleged was a breakfast meeting that took place after the agreement was negotiated not before the agreement was signed in September after the agreement was negotiated one of ABC's attorneys past for a meeting asked for a hearing. I was giving a speech of staying at a hotel. I agreed to have a brief meeting. I believe at seven A._M.. Rather than open the office I spoke with that turning the Miami Herald reporter who exposed that meeting Julie Brown said this after that press conference today he talked about the meeting and how the deal had been signed by the meeting a time at the meeting that October meeting well yes there was a piece of paper that was signed but they were still really in the thick of negotiations and certainly still talking about there was a follow up letter from one of Epstein's lawyers that went to Mr accosted that said thank you very much for your agreement to keep this all secret and it was clear that that that part of the agreement was discussed at that meeting where that he had called some kind of false fax or Fakfak thing news kind of thing about that meeting will the reality was their negotiations to are still going through all the way through till June when he finally pled because he appealed to the Justice Department there were all kinds of talks still going on after after the initial signing of that agreement Kenny Rogers of the New York Times Aleksei Kosta if he was confident that the president would continue to support him. I'm doing my job. If at some point the president decides that I am not the best person to do this job Bob I respect that that is his choice. I serve at the pleasure of the President he serves at the pleasure of a president who is an admitted sexual assault or Donald. Trump is the only president in history who could find pleasure having Alex Acosta in his cabinet leading off our discussion tonight or Carolina Former U._S.. Attorney for the Southern District California a former San Diego Superior Court Judge Barbara mcquade is with us. She's a former U._S.. Attorney for the Eastern District Oh Michigan and M._S._N._B._C. legal contributor and Ron Klein is with us. He's a former senior aide to vice president Joe Biden and President Obama and a former chief counsel to the Senate Judiciary Committee and Barbara mcquade. I want to start with you on this with your experience variances federal prosecutor where you're listening to a former U._S.. Attorney up there today explaining his decision not to prosecute someone in a major sex crimes case. What was your reaction to the totality of what you heard yeah? I'M ORDINARILY RELUCTANT A to criticize decisions by fellow prosecutor because I know that cases can be complicated. There can be all kinds of reasons that you might make a decision but there are some things he said today that just did not ring true. One is the idea that he was somehow bound by what the State Court Prosecutor was doing that because the state court prosecutor was going to charge a very low offense that somehow it was on him to come in and rescue that case and as the prosecutor has now stated they they were in no way bound together he certainly could filed his own fifty three count indictment without regard to anything that the State Court prosecutor was doing. I thought his answers were inadequate. About the secrecy of the agreement he had some tortured logic about protecting the credibility the of the victims in case they should become witnesses if the deal should fall apart as strikes me as no reason to violate the Crime Victims Rights Act and finally I also thought his answer was inadequate when he talked about this provision that granted immunity to any potential attention co-conspirators all he says well our focus was on the top player <hes> he that that clause could apply to anyone in the world and to include it without specifying names they specify days but then they also said and any potential potential co-conspirator will not be prosecuted and we're suspending the grand jury that language is so wide you could drive a truck through it and it makes me wonder whether there wasn't somebody else that they were seeking to protect with that language caroline the whole time I think like many of us were listening to this press conference and the whole thing is being blamed on the local Florida state prosecutor. We're all kind of wondering well. What's the local Florida prosecutor going to say and pretty much right after that press conferences over a he uses a written instatement saying all of that is true yeah? That's not a great situation when you just had a press conference that and then the person who you said was you know really the person you were addressing here comes and says you've completely misstated what happened. The best case scenario for Aleksic coming out of that press conference was that he ran essentially a bungled investigation because he was congratulating the Southern District of New York for bringing additional charges based on what he said was new evidence. Well the Southern District of New York indicted Epstein for events that took place partly in Florida in two thousand and two to two thousand and five those facts existed at the time accost his office was running their investigation so to ev- entered into a non prosecution acution agreement and then a dozen years later say well. We're so happy that another district has done what we should've done twelve years ago but we are blameless as Barbara said just doesn't ring quite right run clean. We are here tonight <hes> discussing this because this is Donald Trump's world. This is the only president of the United States who in the vetting process for his Labor secretary would have discovered this and they did it was discussed by the veterans. In the vetting process and this history for Alex Acosta was perfectly okay for Donald Trump. Yeah I mean I think Lawrence. That's the key point here. The biggest news is that there's no news here at all in some respects. This was known that Mister Acosta had bungled this case that a federal judge had said he had violated the law and not notifying the victims about his decision that there was information about his sweetheart deal with Mr Epstein and his lawyers and Donald well trump went ahead and nominated him anyway and the majority of the Senate Republicans confirmed him anyway in by the way not just for any job. Mister Acosta is now the senior federal official in charge of most of our anti human trafficking some programs so we have a person who turned the other way on the trafficking of young girls <hes> be in charge of enforcing the laws that protect many young women in the workforce from these kinds of trafficking things so I mean the only thing worse just inputting Alex Acosta in charge of the Labor Department is the fact that we sit here tonight. Now cost is still in charge of the Labor Department and Donald Trump seems uninclined to do anything about it Barbara mcquade. What did you make of his answer in his defense for his one on one meeting with one of the Jeffrey Epstein lawyers and I don't know he did point out that the agreement had been signed in September and that meeting occurred in October he made quite a point of that therefore therefore that meant it could not have had anything to do with the agreement whatsoever but I think as the reporter has pointed out from the Miami Herald what they were discussing? There wasn't the substance of the agreement self but the secrecy of it of keeping it secret of not informing the victims terms of filing it in Miami instead of Palm Beach where the victims reside and so <hes>. I don't know that I was satisfied by his answer. They're just because the meeting occurred after the formal document was signed doesn't mean that they didn't discuss us things that might have been improper in it really does seem odd to have a meeting like this to discuss the substance of the case without the line prosecutors who are assigned to the case being present and involved in that discussion Carol. It seems to me if you're U._S.. Attorney you you don't WanNa be in a meeting like that alone because you want today or anytime in the future to have your witnesses to come forward the other Assistant U._S. attorneys who were in the room with you to say well. This is what happened in the meeting. I just can't I'm stunned the U._S.. Attorney would do a one on one meeting out of the office with the lawyer in a highly defense lawyer highly controversial case. It's a very very dangerous thing to do and in fact my office I had a policy against ever doing that for two reasons reasons one. You always want to have the line prosecutor there to make sure that what you're being told by the defense attorney is true with respect to what has happened in the case and as you mentioned you don't want to finish that meeting and have the defense attorney. Go out and tell you line. Prosecutors occurs well the U._S.. Attorney told me that we could do this and then you're lying. Prosecutors are left without much recourse because they weren't at the meeting so the fact that such a meeting took place whatever the subject matter that's the problem the line prosecutors don't know exactly what was discussed there and that's a very dangerous thing to do but run cleared the House oversight committee now wants to hear from Alex Acosta Alex Acosta presumably doesn't want to testify to Congress again again during his entire career as labor secretary so what happens next well what happens is I think that he you know he's going to need attorney general bar to invent some special secret wonderful amazing privilege that prevents the Secretary of Labor it from having testified before Congress because if he comes before Congress he is going to be exposed for a not just as horrible judgment in this case but for all the lies he's now told about it for all the misleading statements he's made about it. I don't see how he possibly survived that hearing and indeed I think if that hearing stays on the books <hes> by guesses the secretary cost may reconsider its position and resigned before he has to testify before Congress about the events he discussed today Carolyn Barbara mcquade Ron Klein. Thank you all for starting us off tonight tonight. On this important subject really appreciate it thank you and when we come back you will hear Savannah Guthrie's very very sad very grim interview this morning with a new accuser of Jeffrey Epstein who says that he began sexually abusing using her when she was fourteen years old and she says that he forcibly raped her when she was fifteen years old hi. It's Katy Tur want to keep doc with M._S._N._B._C.. While you're on the go subscribe to the M._S._N._B._C. daily newsletter. You'll get the best of what you've missed. During this unprecedented era of news text M._S._N._B._C. Two six six eight six six to subscribe a new accuser came forward for the first time today against Jeffrey Epstein. She says that she was forcibly raped by him when she was fifteen years old. Jennifer are arose was twelve years old when her father died she was raised by her mother in Queens New York City borough where Donald trump grew up jennifer grew up poor. She was attending New York City's special public high school for the performing the arts when she says she was recruited by a woman hanging around outside the high school who she says was scouting talent for Jeffrey Epstein. She described that recruiters technique today to Savannah Guthrie on the today show the first time she brought up the name Jeffrey Epstein. How did she describe him to you? They use a great guy just saying like you know he's helped me. I've struggled like she was similar to me. Did she say he could help you with your career. That was a big part of it and when you think of her now you use the phrase the recruiter you felt like she was for sure and for someone or hundred percent yeah when you first met him. What did you think what did he say very nice? Basically weekly saying that you know he's heard a lot about me. You know she's just a recruiter was talking such nice things a few weeks later. She says Jeffrey Epstein took her into his massage room in that moment it didn't at that moment yes strategy but at the same time I was scared too because I didn't know if he would get angrier so I kind of just followed. I would have just my under on because he that's how he liked it so and I would just get massages back and then he would <hes> potentially <hes> later on turnover and <hes> play with himself and he would also like when I would play with his nipples turn on that and then he would finish himself off and then that would be the end of it and he would still give you the three hundred and normally I would either get it. The secretary would leave it in a draw and the massage room. How often do you think yeah like once a week twice a week my freshman year? Did you ever tell him near age. I told the recruiter I've mentioned in front of him. Yes <music>. You're fourteen years yeah. He knew very well my age you know exactly you know who he was hanging out with you know I don't think care when a rose turned fifteen. She says things took turns. Just take your door will get on top and I said I didn't want to very forcefully kind of brought me into the table and I just did but I was told me to do. I was really scared. I didn't necessarily think that he was going to rape me. Did he hold you there. Yeah no question in your mind nine. He knew you did not want that. No he definitely yeah. There was no way I was like. I don't want to say I was screaming or anything of that nature but I was terrify it and I was telling him to stop. Please stop and did he know you did not stop yeah no intention of stopping and that's what he wanted. That's got when you left there. You never went back after that day. No no I never went back. I was terrified. I was really scared because I didn't want that to happen again and you left school. Did you leave the school because it was in the same neighborhood. Yeah it was so close in your mind. Did you use the word rate. Did you recognize it then. No no I don't think I did. I just thought like you know it's my fault like I was like obligated like that's just what you're supposed to do so I'm really not no better. When did you stop blaming yourself? A long time. Really Arose Says Epstein staff continued to reach out to her for more than a year but she did not respond. She says she didn't immediately tell anyone including the police something. She says she now regrets Digest Free Epstein Rape Hugh Hewitt forcefully raped me knew exactly what he was doing and I don't think cared what hurts even more so than if I wasn't afraid to come forward sooner than maybe he wanted to other girls. I feel really guilty till this day I feel really guilty. She said that she did share that story with her mother. Her ex boyfriend and two close friends back at that time and Jennifer arose is not part as far as we know of the ongoing southern district of New York Case Against Jeffrey Epstein which could involve many many many girls <hes> but Jennifer rose today in New York State Court did file a petition in which she is seeking information from Jeffrey Epstein through a deposition to find records is and determine the identity of the recruiter and other people who worked for Jeffrey Epstein at the time. She says she was raped by Jeffrey Epstein during our discussion now Ruth Marcus a deputy editorial page editor and columnist at the Washington Post. She's also M._S._N._B._C. M._S._N._B._C. Contributor near attendant the president of the Center for American progress and Ruth. Let me just begin with you and I opened a two year reaction in any way that you want. Thanks well I I have watched this interview and read the transcript of this interview so many times today and each time it becomes even more heartbreaking and even more powerful and I'm struck by a few things the degree to which <hes> this was part of a plan of a well orchestrated and a plan that unfolded over not weeks but months that led up to what she now understands his rape and I'm so interested that she took the step today to try to get the information about other perpetrators here about the identity of the recruiter because Geoffrey obscene if he did what she says he did and if he did what he's been accused used by the southern district of New York is a terrible despicable actor but he also didn't act alone and there are other people who need to be brought to justice in this. I'm also struck equally by her that that sense of shame shame that sense of self loathing and self blame that she had an her incredible vulnerability to the process that he was engaged in because he knew with girls that young with girls that are needy with girls who have lost their fathers. This was the kind of victim he was looking for who wasn't going to be able to stand up to his <hes> demands and then to his <hes> forcefulness and he she said he knew what he wanted wanted and he got what he wanted and that is just to me the most one of the most heartbreaking lines in all of this <hes> the one of the names of one of Jeffrey Epstein's recruiters has been published in many different accounts over the years and and so I would expect her to discovering that a rather easily through the deposition process but near here you have this description of the recruiter standing hanging around outside the High School for Performing Arts Uh in Manhattan looking possibly for hopeful young teenage actresses in high school hoping for future and maybe needing some financial help to get there I think I wanted to I reemphasize what route said and you know. I think it's just so angering about this is how they recruiter went to a girl found a girl whose father had just recently died who who was probably in one of the most vulnerable states she will ever be in having just lost a parent now having a single mom and plainly went after this girl because she wouldn't have the protections is that other kids would have and it was effective because she didn't tell anybody about it and the idea that there was this plot to basically go after this vulnerable girl makes it really impossible to. I believe this was the first or only time this happened. Obviously there's a lot to uncover here but really looking at a Predator who has a pattern of behavior who has perfected. Perfected his skills upon really victims and I think we will take a long time to discover all the victims that have been harmed by this monster ruthin era. Just please stay with us. We're going to squeeze in a break here and we're gonNA continue with more of a reaction to the other developments in this story today right after this break today we know a lot more about how victims trauma impacts impacts their testimony and this too is important. Our juries are more accepting of contradictory statements understanding that trauma impacted memories were differently and today are judges judges do not allow victim shaming defense attorneys Ruth Marcus. I wanted to get your reaction to that part of Alex Costas Statement today a little bit jumping out of my chair here. We are not talking about one thousand nine hundred ninety six or nineteen seventy six. We're talking about two thousand six. Two thousand seven come on it. May Be things have gotten a little bit easier zero today and we've all gotten a hopefully more educated about why victims might not come forward why we should y girl wouldn't tell her parents or things like that but the issue of this issue was front and center four people in the two thousands it's not ancient history and that is just not maybe there was a hard case to bring but that is just not an adequate explanation. Let me just say quickly that the one thing I thought was really missing from Mr Costa's performance today was just any little hint of contrition or regret on his part it just seemed absent yeah near he was asked repeatedly repeatedly offered the opportunity to to apologize of fully or say a single word of apology and he never did think of it this way he basically did a sweetheart deal all for a Predator who now has an actual prosecution. I mean just just to say if I had prosecuted more aggressively how many victims wouldn't have been victimized. I I can't imagine a prosecutor cuter who wouldn't feel some regret over those sets of facts but he bit you know no shame with this president or any of his people and I have to say the entire performance reminded me that at this this this man this prosecutor ignored a fifty three page indictment and had some strange issues around immunity for co-conspirators and one of the close friends have Jeffrey Epstein and later gave this same man a pretty good job and I think you know we don't know where this leads. We don't know where this goes but we do have a president who is a sexual Predator and this case has a lot of ties to him as well and roof. This is a story that could only happen in the trump presidency because this issue came out during the vetting of Alexa cost and he survived the trump vetting because because in trump vetting this isn't a problem well. Let's call how we got Alex Acosta. We got Alex Acosta because the previous candidate for Labor secretary had to withdraw when there were allegations of <hes> spousal abuse so Alex Acosta's issues relating to this it clearly inadequate <hes> prosecution deal I guess looked mild in comparison to that <hes> <hes> but more broadly this is not <hes> an administration that let us say is well known for its excellent vetting and even when they find things they tend to think they won't cause trouble because the I guess they've plowed their way through a lot of things that you know kind of it kind of goes to the question of contrition contrition actually makes an apology has has a good impact on a lot of people sincere apology has a good impact but as a bad impact on one person which is donald trump he sees it as a sign of weakness. He famously doesn't apologize he doesn't like it when others apologize and that may be another another piece of what was going on here today Ruth Marcus and near attendant thank you for joining us on this difficult subject really appreciate and when we come back Carson Katie Porter will join us to tell us how J. P.. Morgan Chase has finally finally finally responded to her withering cross examination of CEO Jamie Jamie diamond in a Congressional hearing as we showed you on this program in April Freshman Carson. Katie Porter really made life difficult for J.. P. Morgan Chase Chairman and C._E._O.. Jamie diamond once she asked him how a single mother like her living in her California Congressional district could possibly make ends meet on the entry level wage of six dollars and fifty cents an hour. The Jamie diamond pays new employees cars wound porter who was a law professor specializing in Consumer Protection Law before she ran for Congress did the detailed math on the monthly the expenses of a single mother trying to live on J.. P. Morgan chases entry level wage and after running through every detail of the typical monthly living expenses in her district. She asked Jamie diamond how that single mother could possibly possibly stay solvent short five sixty seven. What would you suggest she do? Are you know I got to think about that. Would you recommend that she take out a J.. P. Morgan Chase Credit Card and run a deficit. Listen to think about it. Would you recommend that she overdraft at your bank and be charged overdraft fees. I don't know what other think about Jamie. Dimon still doesn't know and is still thinking about it. He's never come up with an answer but now his chief lobbyist wants to talk to congresswoman Puerto J. P. Morgan Chase head lobbyist Jason Rosenberg wrote cars when porter a letter saying quote we have a large employees and philanthropic footprint in California's forty fifth congressional district and would like to provide an overview of the work. We do throughout Orange County so what will Katie Porter do. We'll she meet with Jamie diamonds chief lobbyist and see if he's figured out the math on how a single mother could possibly stay afloat on that entry level wage. Jamie diamond pays J. P. Morgan Chase will ask Katie Puerto of that and more when she joins us after this break when cars were in Katie Porter pressed. Asked the chairman and C._E._O.. Of J. P. Morgan Chase Jamie Dimon on how a single mother could survive on the entry level wage that he pays at J.. P. Morgan Chase Jamie Dimon eventually came up with the idea of calling up that single mother and seeing if he might be able to find find a way to advise her toward solvency to call up never conversation better financial affairs and see if we can be helpful see if you can find a way for her to live on less than the minimum that I've described just helpful well. I appreciate your desire to be helpful but what I'd like you to do is provide a way for families to make ends meet and joining us now is Democratic Congressman from California. She's a member of the Financial Services Committee cars imported. Thank you very much for joining us again tonight so so did Jamie diamond ever call you up and explain to you. He thinks that hypothetical single mother could survive on the sixteen fifty an hour absolutely not it's been three months to the day since we had that exchange at the hearing and I finally received a five sentence letter from his lobbyists not from Mr Diamond himself and the letter basically says that they'd be willing to meet with me in my congressional district to discuss their philanthropic quirk and I'll be honest with you my constituents they work hard and they want to be able to make ends meet themselves. They want to be paid a living wage so they can go into the grocery store and take care of their families. They don't WanNa hear about corporate philanthropy and handouts that J. P. Morgan chases trying to get away with to distract from the real problem here. which is they're not sharing in? The incredible revenue including the windfall from the trump tax plan that the bank is earning. I read the lobbyists letter to mean that he wants to basically sit you down and explain to you how important J. P.. Morgan Chase is to your congressional district. Something that big business has been doing to members of Congress for a couple of centuries now yeah that's going to be a hard pass Komo. I need to be condescended to. I want to work on these problems. I'm really serious about the difficulties that families face and making ends meet. It's what I studied before. I came to Congress and it's what I think about every day so I don't need to be pandered to to. I don't need to be told that they have employees. I know that I talked to my constituents. I know I have folks at work. J. P. Morgan Chase. I have a chase branch right next to the grocery store. I go with my kids. I WANNA hear about from Mr Diamond and who wants to wear the mantle of leader of the business community. You WanNa wear that mantle then with that comes the responsibility to come up with real solutions to the problems families are facing around wages around the high cost of housing in the high cost of childcare and the gap you identified when you worked out all the expensive it was five hundred sixty seven dollars a month and no one has suggested to you any way of making up that gap from J. P. Morgan Chase including the wild idea of how how `bout paying more yes they completely refuse to address that and frankly as I listen to this clip again which I've watched several times you know I found Mr Diamonds answer that. I don't know I'd have to think about it. I don't know I'd have to think about it. He wasn't uneven responding and thoughtfully to the questions he just decided that he simply wasn't going to engage with me and it was really making a good faith effort to have a conversation that I think the American people across the political spectrum WanNa be having with the leaders of our nation's largest businesses which is what is the responsibility of businesses to share with their employees the revenue that they make in good times we know those businesses impose lay-offs and stagnant wages in hard times and what's the obligation to share with your employees when times are good like they've been at J. P. Morgan Chase cars. Could you stay with US commercial break. I want to squeeze in one more commercial break because I'd love to ask you about something. I saw in your hearing today that I have never I've seen before. Can you just hang with us over. We're going to be right back. Here's something we've never seen a chairman of the Federal Reserve asked about in a congressional hearing if you got a call from the president today or tomorrow and he said I'm firing you pack up. It's time to go. What would you do well? Of course I would not do that. I can't hear you the answer would be no and you would not pack up and you would not leave no man because you think the president doesn't have the authority. Is that why you would not leave. I have kind that said what I what I intended to say on the subject and what I've said is that the law clearly gives me a four year term and I fully intend to serve Katie Puerta was in that hearing. I've never seen a moment like that. What was your reaction to that well? I was really encouraged to hear Chevron Powell stand up for the institution of the Federal Reserve. It's really important that it be independent from political pressure whether it's from Congress or from the president and so oh it was frankly in Washington for the first six months here I haven't seen a lot of people with spines so it was really nice to see somebody stand up to the president and make clear that they're committed to doing their job not to just doing what the president orders them to do. Well well. He does have a law that allows him to stand up that way which most other trump appointees do not agree but a lot of those trump appointees in the cabinet secretaries for example have statutes that they're charged with enforcing. That's part of taking on the mantle of the agency and yet we see many of them unwilling to take on those responsibilities. That's frankly how I feel about Secretary Carson and why Karl on him to resign so I was hardened to hear Mr Powell say that he intends to continue his work. I don't agree with him about everything but I do admire the way he stood up for the fact that the Federal Reserve's independence is a really important component of our economy. I wanted to quickly get your reaction. As both a law professor and member of Congress to the Appeals Court hearing yesterday yesterday on the affordable care act where the trump administration is trying to destroy it completely and have it declared unconstitutional yeah. This is a disaster for the American public. If the court rules the and constitutional millions aliens of Americans will lose their health care in my own district of the most recent analyses show that about six percent forty four thousand people would lose healthcare almost immediately the estimates could be higher than that so oh I think this is a really unfortunate effort by the trump administration to try to do through the courts what they weren't able to do legislatively even with the Republicans in the majority the reality is the vast majority of Americans want to improve the affordable Care Act Act. They want to try to address prescription drug pricing. They don't WanNA see healthcare dismantled. They don't want to return to a time when people with preexisting conditions newborn babies coming into this world couldn't even get health insurance cars woman. Katie Porter gets tonight's.

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Acosta refuses to resign, defends secret plea deal for Epstein; Harris becomes latest candidate to team up with Ocasio-Cortez; Protestors storm Biden's campaign HQ demanding commitments for separated migrant families

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Acosta refuses to resign, defends secret plea deal for Epstein; Harris becomes latest candidate to team up with Ocasio-Cortez; Protestors storm Biden's campaign HQ demanding commitments for separated migrant families

"The lead with Jake Tapper is supported by better help. The world's largest online counseling program listeners can get ten percent off their first month that better help dot com slash tapper stay tuned to hear about my own personal experience with better help spoiler alert. It's been great tired tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses visits any today at Xeni Dot com slash C._N._N.. Secretary Kosta was not able to list any regrets about that Epstein plea deal the lead starts right now. The trump cabinet secretary who wants brokered a secret plea deal with an alleged child rapists today says don't blame him as president trump pushes him out in front of the microphones to defend himself another major Democratic candidate according A._O.. See is CEOS see the key to the primary race or just the formula for firing up Republicans plus now. That's Brexit. President trump gets his way. The ambassador who privately called him incompetent and insecure is out but I guess we're still cool with Kim Jong UN and the Saudi Crown Prince C._N._N.'s Lincoln News welcome to the lead on Jake Tapper we begin with breaking news just minutes ago in an attempt to keep his job and defend his reputation secretary of Labor. Alex Kosta Pasta tried to defend himself from a rising chorus of calls for his resignation given that two thousand eight plea agreement he agreed to today called a sweetheart deal for accused child Predator trafficker in child rapist. Jeffrey Epstein Acosta was urged to hold this press. This conference by President Trump's two sources. Tell C. N.. N. A. Cost has faced scathing criticism from teens. Many victims who were minors at the time of Epstein's alleged brutality they are offended but by what they see as a soft punishment for the wealthy well-connected did Epstein and has covered in an award winning Miami Herald expose the quote extraordinary plea agreement that would conceal the full extent of Epstein's crimes and the number of people involved the deal quote essentially shut down and ongoing F._B._i.. Probe into whether there were more victims uh-huh and other powerful people who took part in epsteins sex crimes earlier this year a federal judge ruled that a Kosta and his office by failing to notify the victims about the plea agreement ahead of time broke the law but a constant today was not only unrepentant repentant he portrayed himself as something of the hero in the Epstein affair claiming that the State of Florida would have let Epstein go free had he and his team not coming come in wearing their federal white hats and save the day ensuring that Epstein at least went to jail for some some time and was labelled a registered sex offender as C. N.. N.'s Pamela Brown now reports a cost insisted today he did nothing wrong and he refused to commit to me with any of Epstein's victims by absolutely welcomed this New York prosecution. It is the absolutely right thing to do and battled Labor Secretary Alexander Pasta defending himself this afternoon over a controversial plea deal he oversaw that allowed multimillionaire Jeffrey Epstein to avoid federal sex crime charges it's saying he intervened in the case to give Epstein a stiffer punishment. That's what the prosecutor's Office did. They insist that he go to jail and put the world on notice that he was and is a sexual predator. The two thousand case against Epstein alleges he wears dozens of young girls some as young as fourteen into having sex with him. The Palm Beach State Attorney's Office was ready to let Epstein Walk Free No jail time nothing prosecutors in my former office found this to be completely unacceptable and they became involved but prosecutors India deal letting him avoid public federal trial register as a sex offender and served just thirteen months in state prison where he was allowed to leave during the day a cost now says he was faced with two difficult options as the U._S.. Attorney plead guilty to more serious charges charges that required jail l. time registration and resitution or we'd roll the dice and bring a federal indictment staining your today. Are you basically saying that you that you did everything you could. You got the best deal you could get and you have no regrets. We believe that we proceeded appropriately C._N._N.. Confirms it costs a statement comes after trump ordered him to explain himself publicly like my relationship with the president outstanding <hes> he has. I think very publicly made clear that that I've got his support and while the White House is publicly defending Kosta. Why are you talking about Alex accuster not Jeffrey Epstein Eh one of trump's competence telling T._N._N.? He doesn't believe a cost will ass but I'll take you gone or shorter. I think it'll be relatively quick period. He will be on meantime. Trump is now distancing himself from Epstein Osteen who he wants described as a terrific guy who likes beautiful women as much as I do. I knew him like everybody in Palm Beach. I had a falling out with them a long time ago. I don't think I've spoken to him for fifteen years. I wasn't a Fan Epstein was also a frequent frequent visitor at trump's mar-a-lago resort years ago but an attorney for the trump organization tells C._n._n.. Trump banned him from the property although he doesn't remember when or why as for Epstein who was facing new charges in a New York case another accuser went public today describing being raped by him as a teenager forcefully raped me knew exactly what he was doing and I don't think cared what hurts even more so than if I wasn't afraid to come forward sooner than maybe he wanted to other girls well the White House has not provided any updates to an internal review of a cost they claim was underway in March. One source tells the White House is referring to D._O._J.. Officials who are looking into whether there was any professional misconduct by Acosta today. The secretary said he would be willing to be interviewed by those investigators but he remained defiant. He did nothing wrong Jake Pamela Brown at the White House. Thanks so much for joining me now are two former federal prosecutors Elliot Williams and Elliott Elliott. Let me start with you. What do you make of the cost characterization in defense of the way his office handled the manner? What we saw was the cost essentially shift the blame to the line prosecutors in his office the state prosecutors and even to some extent the victims short of shaming them? He says look you know they still have civil. They can still file a civil suit against Simpson. What you didn't hear in there? Anywhere was a manager saying I messed. Up The buck stopped with me as the prosecutor and all of the evidence that was available to New York or to the prosecutors in New York or at least some of it would have been available to him at the time and so it's it was shockingly defensive in tone and it's really amazing to see that there wasn't any sort of you know. Even you know there was this question of do you have any regrets and he sort of punted on the question and so it's as again as a leader as a manager as a principal you just have to sometime say I had <hes> discretion and I used it poorly. I use it wrong and he just didn't do it. Well I mean he might not think that he did anything wrong. Is it possible is it in the realm of possibility that that was the best deal that the U._S. Attorney's Office could get in two thousand thousand eight. I think it's very unlikely that that was the best deal thirteen months for running. An organized sex trafficking network of children for molesting and raping children thirteen months is a fraction of a fraction of a fraction action of what he should have gotten under the federal system and this blame shifting to the state was complete nonsense. It doesn't matter if the state was willing to walk away. That's not the question. Did you do a little bit better than state. The question is what should he have gotten federally and I think we're GonNa see the southern district yet way way way higher than thirty months and j just comparison thirteen months is what someone gets in the federal system for about two grams of crack cocaine. That's about half a teaspoon. That's what thirteen months is. That's not what a sexual Predator should get in the federal system by any stretch and also on top of that your piggybacking Elliot's point there's dozens and dozens of victims. This isn't the kind of sexual assault case where literally it's the word of one victim adult against another you you had sympathetic victims and lots and lots and lots of them and so the idea that that they could they felt that they could not have won at trial if that's his argument or they felt that they you know they they just wouldn't have been successful. It's just sort of seems foolish based on everything we know that was available and certainly is available to us now so this isn't a hindsight question. The evidence was largely. There and it's just a lot just doesn't fit together here. Jake and L. L. E. Acosta said that many of the victims were scared and traumatized refused to testify. He also said that victims are treated differently he. They seem to be suggesting better today that there's less victim shaming in the in the court system is any of that valid. Do you think that that he has any case there. I really don't buy that at all. Jake that part jumped out at me as being way off off-base first of all as a prosecutor it is your job to win the trust and the comfort of the victims and walk them through the process so that they're ready to testify and second of all this notion that we were sort of in a different head space back in two thousand seven and we we're ready to trust. Victims is complete nonsense. I know at first hand because in two thousand seven when I was with the Southern District of New York I did a trial of five defendants. Where are the basically the entire evidence was? We called ten different victims of a sex trafficking ring similar in many any respect to this one. The jury heard them the jury credited them the jury believed them and convicted all the defendants of sex trafficking so this idea that we weren't ready for this yet back in two thousand seven. I'll tell you firsthand is nonsense but Elliott let me just say to play devil's advocate bitcoin literally the the attorneys the actual devil's advocates the advocates for for Epstein were Ken Starr Jay Lefkowitz Alan Dershowitz really expensive high powered people doing all sorts of things to intimidate everyone involved in the case. I'm not saying illegally but within the legal system but and they would I'm sure on the stand tried to destroy every one of the victims. Is there not a case to be made by somebody like Consta- that look these these girls were as we know incredibly vulnerable a lot of them a step away from homelessness according to the Miami Herald report and that it was a mismatch and the most important was getting him in jail and getting them as a registered sex offender and that was the that was the decision he made and maybe it doesn't stand up to scrutiny today but at the time he was trying to do the right thing is is that possible yeah I mean look jail but he was able to go to work every day and continue he'll racking up millions and millions of dollars and so but again yes he's entitled to Lodge Defense and his and his attorneys would it would have been in their right to attack the credibility of witnesses. That's what works in our system but these are fourteen year old girls and there were potentially dozens and dozens of them and so at a certain point yes his high-powered attorneys would have attacked the credibility of the of the victims but they're also very compelling victims. It's a very compelling case with a lot of evidence. I mean what this is exposing. I think is there's inequalities in our system L.. e. pointed out the fact that you'll for Graham a couple of grams of crack rocky still get that kind of above ten year sentence and you were or this many other types of crime for some people wouldn't bat there is at someone going away for much much longer time but I think the fact that we're even talking about it shows that the way that society is willing to brush aside <hes> sex sex assault cases uses sex assault victims so yes this is. I think this exposes inequities in our system more than anything else all right Elliot. Thank you so much for your expertise really appreciated Jillian. Join me on the phone right. Now is Julie Brown. She is the Miami Herald investigative the reporter who broke the Award Winning Epstein Story and has continued to vigorously report on Julie once again congratulations on bringing all of this horrific misjustice to light it is because of you that we are here. <hes> I WANNA ask you about Alex Acosta's press conference first of all. Is there anything that you heard that he said that you do not think to be true. Well there are a number of things and I he managed to presented in a the way that it sounds true. If you really don't read the court records and understand the sequence of events <hes> I guess there's a lot to impact their two areas. I think number one his <hes> argument about the evidence evidence and whether there were adequate <hes> witnesses if the witnesses were strong enough to testify <hes> low key didn't need all thirty he had thirty six girls who all told the same story which is amazing and you know. I talked to only a handful of them and they all said you know exactly what the M._o.. Was You know Sarah would call me. We would set it up for three o'clock. I went into the kitchen. We went up this curving stairway. I mean you you know it isn't just the witnesses and whether they were scared to testify which by the way heard one of the lawyers mentioned you know it is the job the prosecutors to make them feel secure enough to testify and so <hes> you know that. That's one thing and then the second part of this whole thing is the secrecy involved. If this was such a great deal and this was the best they can do then. Why didn't they tell the victims? Why didn't they answer the victim's phone calls? These victims had to hire attorneys specifically quickly to get the prosecutors to answer the phone calls <hes> that doesn't make sense he he mentioned something about this meeting which was very suspect that he had with one of private meeting that he had with one of <hes> epsteins defensive yeah and he he tried to paint that in a way that it isn't really accurate. Yes he's correct. There was a deal that was signed in September but there were other aspects of that deal that were he mentioned Benintendi them. That's key there was an addendum that was still being negotiated and also the part about not informing. The victims wasn't written into that agreement. That was what they discussed at that meeting because does Mr Lefkowitz wrote a letter to Mr Casa after the meeting saying thank you for the meeting. I'm glad we had this discussion and here's what we agree to and if you read that one of the things that they agreed you too was that they weren't gonNa tell the victims so he's he's sort of dancing around it by saying well. We had a piece of paper signed in September. The reality is <hes> that there were a lot of things that that Epstein's lawyers were still fighting for. They really wanted this to go back to the state. <hes> which is exactly what happened. They got what they wanted and Mr Kosta relented and did give it back to the states. Don't necessarily pass the scrutiny of somebody who has spent so much time studying the court records. The case was much stronger that he's making it appear and so on let me ask you. He did put a lot of blame Kosta today at the Palm Beach County Attorney's Office the State Attorney's Office. They're saying that if it hadn't been for the U._S. Attorney <hes> he would have <hes> Epstein would have gone free. Is that accurate well. It is accurate <hes> Barry Krisher <hes> was ready to basically let them off <hes> and avenue that was one of the consternation of the to police the police detective Joe Carey and the police chief were just flabbergasted that they were GonNa that he was going to let them off <hes> he also the grand jury that <hes> AH happens <hes> the I think they only call one witness. They didn't even give the grand jury the evidence of the Palm Beach Police had had collected so that part of it is true but does that mean you still can't prosecute him said really when you know that this is when you find find out this is a sex operation involving recruiters and schedulers and pilots and drivers and money man who paid the girls. I mean that that's a federal federal sex trapping in crime. It's an organization mission so to put it back and say well you know the state prosecutor didn't do his job. We were the heroes now because we took the case over and then give it back to the state prosecutors. I mean it just doesn't make any sense. Let me ask you also truly the constant was asked today about the decision not to tell the victims about the plea deal ahead of time which is against the law as found by a federal judge earlier this year I want you to listen to part of his explanation and they concern and these are the words of the Career Prosecutor that quote she did not want to share with the victims that the office was attempting to secure for them the ability to obtain monetary compensation because she is aware that if she disclosed that and the negotiations fell through through council would use this to question to victims credibility. What was your response when you heard him say that well? There's two problems with that argument. First of all <hes> before the deal was <hes> at the point where Epstein appeared in court and actually was sentenced <hes> she didn't have to tell them that there was an the restitution provisions which by the way I've also been told was extremely unusual because they basically Lee said that they were that turney would be hired and paid for by Epstein to handle these restitution cases which is a conflict. I mean you're having the the perpetrator paid a legal fees for the lawyer WHO's supposed to get these these women money and that whole thing is another whole problem but nevertheless they didn't have to tell them early on that about the restitution provisions they could've still said we have a plea agreement and we're working on this plea agreement number number one and number two when they got to the sentencing part of it then what's their excuse. They're not going to trial what's their excuse then for not telling them about the whole plea deal you could tell them at the point where you know you're not going to trial and they didn't do that either all right Julie Brown of the Miami Herald congratulations again on the justice that you are bringing to the world because of your investigative series <hes> it's really remarkable and I just want to thank you. Thanks for having me Jake coming up much more on our breaking news coming up what secretary cost said when our Kaitlan Collins asked if he would make the same deal today stay with us thanks to better help the world's largest online counseling program for supporting the lead with Jake Tapper we all could benefit from a little therapy and better help makes it so easy to take advantage of. I took the plunge myself to seek out strategies for dealing with stress in stressful relationships from the get-go. 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Does he regret the way he handled that that was a defense. The president used in the Oval Office saying sometimes attorneys or judges don't like the way they handled something but today Alex Acosta so refused to answer directly repeated questions about whether or not he would have changed his course. These questions are always very difficult because we now have twelve years of knowledge in hindsight and we live in a very different world. Today's world treats victims very very differently. Today's world does not allow some of the victim shaming could have taken place at trial twelve years ago. Today's world understands that when interviewing victims when eliciting testimony that testimony can be sometimes contradictory that memories are difficult and so. I don't think we can say you know take a case that is this old and fully know how it play out today now. He says it's this old we should note it was only made eleven years ago and though he said today's world treats victims differently jake. We should also note that under his watch around the same time this plea agreement was negotiated. There were several other sex trafficking cases brought that resulted in much tougher sentences. Even though none of those had dozens of victims like this one did Kaitlyn Collins. I said the Justice Department. Thank you so much <hes>. Let's let's talk about this right now. <hes> A BARBARA COMSTOCK DOC <hes>. Let me ask you a question when you hear a cost to say the today's world is very different than the world of two thousand seven two thousand eight when it comes to victims. You've worked on anti-trafficking legislation. You worked with the Justice Department under both you know a Kosta is that true or is there more of an understanding of victims and different. I mean whatever issues he's talking about. Well over the past ten years when I was in the State House and in Congress we have passed lots of anti human trafficking legislation to improve the situation I've talked to dozens of victims and that's why I would ask and even beg that we focus on the women here first and foremost and getting them justice and Kudos to the reporting on this and then this is now being prosecuted again Epstein. There's all kinds of things you can go at him on financial things. How did he make money you know when someone's engaged in all kinds of activities like this? There's a money trail. That's probably criminal dot needs to be looked at. I would hope somehow somebody could freeze his assets right now so all of these young girls who were victimized by him who should not be blaming themselves that broke my heart to see that girl blaming herself for not coming forward about something that these predators due to that and that's the the secondary victimisation optimizations so none of these young girls blaming themselves they need justice. I'd like to see that Epstein financially bankrupted and then we need to Do D._O._J.. Congressional investigations of how this case was handled on the state and federal level. I think that there needs to be a lot that was the beginning of discussion today but there needs to be a lot more that goes into it but first and foremost let's focus on these young girls and getting them justice. I'm confident there's a lot more victims out there and there's a lot more people a new about things in procured these girls and who also should be brought to justice abby from your perch at the White House you have covered the president as he has faced allegations not from minors but from women and I can't say that they were treated with truant disrespect by the world and the idea that there's no victim blaming in twenty nineteen is completely preposterous for anyone who's been paying attention so it is a puzzling Caitlyn's point is really important. There were other cases at that time. I'm that were prosecuted so I think it's hard to believe that somehow. The world is so dramatically different. Yes we're talking about it more. Maybe we're paying attention to it more but victims face the same challenges today as they did then and <hes> and this administration the situation actually frankly has kind of a problem with this. This is the president who when he's asked about women accusing him of sexual assault says they're not my type and that's where they start on this issue and it makes it harder for them to have credibility on it in a case like this and I think out Sukasto was reaching for an excuse or some explanation for what happened <hes>. It seems that what's really going on here. Is that <hes> Jeffrey. Epstein is an extraordinarily wealthy powerful politically connected person. That's why he believed it was going to be a gamble a roll of the dice to take this to court as opposed to Satellite Ryan constable urged to to do this press conference by President Trump. Obviously he is trying to save his this job but who knows if it worked or not. How do you think he did? What I think the consensus that it wasn't so great for the fact that he couldn't answer Caitlyn's very important question? Would you still do this deal today means. He can't defend the deal. If you can't say you would do it again you you can't defend it and politically you know the question about whether he will resign after this or not or the White House will push him out. It doesn't seem like it's in anyone's interest to have him sticking around right. It doesn't seem like the White House has much of an interest in this story worry festering for them. Especially given the credible accusations against president trump a lot of most democrats are now on the side of calling for his resignation. He's had connections to Democrats which is going to be a political issue. <hes> going forward there eight Democrats that voted to confirm him when a lot of these facts were known <hes> and I don't what's what's in the interest for costas stick around and sort of you know take this take this level of criticism so I would be surprised if he's the labor secretary. I mean there are a lot of people who do that job. If you were advising president trump what would you tell him to do. Cut them loose now sir now now the Labor is came out in the press conference Labor Department. One of its many massive duties is to crack down on human trafficking enforcing some of these laws. Ah Barbara was talking about part of that enforcement is a fund that Congress set up to give grants to foreign countries where sex trafficking victims are coming from where they're essentially enslaved. This makes you proud as an American Mr Costa's justice secretary cost of the trump administration called cut that fund by eighty percent. He was asked about the press conferences well. Let's just Washington Congress. Put the money back in. It's no big deal when you have a record like that giving risk slap to a sex trafficker and now your job is to enforce the laws. Awesome Sex Trafficker Andrew trying to repeal the money congress is giving you to do it yeah. I think it's pretty good case you oughta go as Barbara's. This is a huge issue for conservatives especially evangelical community over the decades in it. It's been a bipartisan issue that we have worked together the other on and it please. Let's focus on these women getting justice because we've talked a lot about these guys you know in the trump administration secretaries come and go every week so you know I I think the real important thing here is how these women going to get justice. Everyone stick around president trump says he could no longer work with him and now the British ambassador is going out the door but major questions remain about the impact of what he said about President Trump. Stay with US remember to create an ad like this one visit pure winning dot com slash C._N._N.. The Twenty Twenty League now today a another Democratic candidate is cozying up to the freshman congresswoman who has become something of a progressive phenomenon by that I'm referring to New York. City congresswoman Alexandria Alexandria Cossio Cortez with whom Senator and presidential candidate Kamala Harris today introducing legislation aimed at helping people with criminal records get housing as C._N._N.'s Ken law now reports many Democratic presidential hopefuls want A._O._C.'s Progressive Star power <hes> with perhaps one notable exception Senator Kamala Harris teaming up with Alexandria Cossio Quartet's Harris and the freshman congresswoman introduced joint legislation an aimed at helping people with criminal records fairly obtained housing planting a flag on the left as Harris hopes to highlight her progressive credits. It's called the unofficial a primary twenty twenty democratic hopefuls vying to be seen as Cossio Cortez's ally and we're teaming up today Elizabeth Warren has hailed her alliance with Ocasio cortes from this video slamming Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin was I tend to a more lighthearted conversation about gender portrayal of women and game of thrones. I'm delighted to be here with Congresswoman Alexandria Cossio Quotas but oh Cossio Cortez has also formed ties with Bernie Sanders. They've teamed up on legislation and stumped together for progressive candidates in the two thousand eighteen midterms. There is no middle ground as sanders rallies progressives in his bid for twenty twenty Cossio Cortez has echoed his very words. I will be damned if the same politicians who refuse to act then are going to try to come back today and say we need a middle of the middle of the road approach to save arline. That was an apparent reference to Joe Biden. He's questioned whether or Cossio Cortez's political brand has mass appeal. I think Cossio Cortez's brilliant bright woman but she wanNA primary in the general election fights who won mainstream Democrats who are very progressive on social issues and very strong on education healthcare in the crowded Twenty Twenty Field Progressive Democrats believe Oh Cossio Cortez's endorsement could help separate one hopeful from the rest or earlier this month. The Cost Cortez signaled who's grabbing her. I what I would like to see in the presidential candidate is one that has a coherent <hes> worldview and logic from which all these policy proposals are coming forward. I think Senator Sanders has that I also think Senator Warren has that Hamil Harris is scheduled to arrive here in Brooklyn and shortly. She is hosting a fund raiser here in New York tonight and Jake this is the very first fundraiser where she is allowing reporters and cameras in Jake or Brooklyn. 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Too and we're back with our twenty twenty league congresswoman Alexandria Cossio Cortez becoming a key person in the democratic race is multiple Democratic presidential candidates. Try to team up with the popular progressive. She's also a source of tension. I should note Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Oh see according to a source in today's caucus meeting Pelosi said quote you gotTa complaint you come and talk to me about it but do not tweet about our members and expect us to think that that is just okay. I believe it is not. She is not on board with the A._F._C. Mania in the party. This is this is there's been several instances now where they butted heads <hes> when she's been asked in on the record interviews she has been a little bit dismissive of uh-huh see occasionally and she's basically she's a little bit old school in the sense politically you know respect the seniority system respect the leaders in the house and you know don't <hes> you know don't take to social media to settle you take your grievances Dude Internally Paul. How do you see a she? She a strength for the Party and she liability future. She's a female. She's a comet. She's amazing but she's the dot where she is dislike winning a primary Mary by getting precisely fifteen thousand eight hundred ninety seven votes. You want to be president staying about seventy five million votes many of whom don't live in the Bronx or Queens Queens district. What she did was really remarkable and I don't take anything for the Democrats? You're lucky to have her but Nancy Pelosi understands that she got her majority put in the majority by winning in places like Oklahoma and Utah and Georgia and Texas and Bronx Socialism and can play there so Pelosi's right right here in A._B._C.'s a phenomenal gift and a great talent but she's she does need to listen to our tweaker who who really knows what she's doing. WHO's trying to get the country move into progressive direction and congresswoman? I want to show you this video today. Protesters stormed Joe Biden's campaign headquarters quarters in Philadelphia organizers say that these are immigrant or it gets. It's a photograph not video. These are immigrant families separated during Obama and Biden's time in office they went and Biden to apologize for the separations that took place at that period and commit to ending all detentions. Tensions in deportations if elected I mean you know we we talk a lot about how there were also things going on at the border and with the undocumented community under Obama and Biden Obama deported many more of them and here you have a group taking abiding on on the issue of liberal group well it is amazing that you have Nancy Pelosi who is always really the far left wing is now the middle of her party and Joe Biden has been now recast as a right winger. I don't see Joe that way but that that is where the party is going into this socialist who's being universally praised in catered to someone who hasn't passed any legislation hasn't really had aside from getting those fifteen thousand votes has a pretty sparse record but I I think it just shows you how far left the party's gone and also abby. I WANNA show you this senator. Elizabeth Warren was caught in a similar situation in the fact that with progressive activists coming to her a group of young American Progressive Jews caught her at a campaign event Monday ticket. Listen really love it. If you also <hes> Push Matan Occupation yes excellent. We'd really love it. If you also push the Israeli government to end occupation referring to the West Spank and Warren says Yes yes so I'm there. That's a major foreign policy decision. Maybe we shouldn't put it put a pastor that is exactly what she meant. However it's just goes to show I mean these candidates are being confronted not just on the right but on the left and these activists are getting in their faces asking those questions putting it on video we saw this in this twenty sixteen campaign with Hillary Clinton? It makes a big difference in California in <hes> on on the environment people are being caught up with that too. It's a big problem. People have to be prepared. It'd be sure to tune into the next democratic. Presidential primary debates only on C._N._N.. My Colleagues Dana Bash Don lemon join join me in moderating both nights July thirtieth and thirty first. That's alive from Detroit Michigan coming up. How concerned should our allies? After President Trump's insults forced the British ambassador out the door and out of a job. Stay with US hi everyone it's poppy harlow in this week's episode of boss files and exclusive interview with Google C._E._o.. Sundar Pichai his remarkable story growing up in India with little access to technology to landing the top job at Google job. He'd never raised his hand for for the first time Google response to news of a possible anti-trust investigation of the company and lawmakers calls to break up big tax plus his pledge to do more to curb the spread of disinformation and he on Youtube. We sat down with him at Google Data Center in Pryor Oklahoma or the company is adding hundreds of jobs as it invests across the Midwest subscribe to boss files today and listened to our exclusive interview with Google CEO Sundar Pichai forever their worldly. The British ambassador who sent private cables highly critical of president trump resigned to this morning Sir Kim Derek endured days of personal and public attack by the president after a series of diplomatic memos leaked or Derek said President trump quote radiates insecurity among other observations C._N._N.. National Security reporter Kylie joins me now so kylie so what's so deal. There's no U._k.. Ambassador to the U._S.. Well there is so ambassador. Derek said he is going to be resigning. He made that very clear in the letter that he wrote this warning saying that it became impossible for him to do his job after these leaked cables and after the response from President trump on twitter himself but the question here is who is who are the Brits going to put to fill these shoes and obviously this was a very abrupt situation and so <hes> government officials sales in Britain are still trying to figure this out over the coming days. They're going to decide if the deputy ambassador is going to take over or if it's going to be someone new they're going to name as the official ambassador but right now in though though a master Derek Eric is going to be resigning he's still the official ambassador to the U._S.. And currently outgoing British Prime Minister Theresa may she stood by Derek the foreign secretary standing by him but it does seem as a possible successor to May Boris Johnson did not in a debate bait he he gave an ambiguous statement did that play any role in the decision to resign. It played a critical role so a senior official on the British side is telling us that in watching that the ambassador recognize that he would not have the vote of confidence from his home government if he decided to stay in this role because Boris Johnson could very well become the prime minister just by the end of this month so it wasn't only the pressure from the U._S.. But it was also the pressure from his own government that they weren't going going to back him all right. Thank you so much appreciated a parade of champions through the eyes of their young inspired admirers. That's next in our sports lead today the team that not only redefined dominance in its sport but is changing the game for the cause of equal pay in America. They celebrated their World Cup win with a parade in New York City today the generation hoping to follow in the footsteps of these amazing soccer players lying the streets for a chance to see their role models up-close suber exciting like that was the best day of my life. I love how everyone comes here to support. These women are much more better than everyone. I like how they're really good friends and they worked together like and like where the group are soccer team. We look up to them and WANNA be like older. During an inspiration I mean they win the World Cup winning games after right. They're fighting for equal pay more. They're fighting for what's right on and off the field. They show that no matter what women don't have to conform to serotypes made by society they they don't care they're just trying to do the right thing and they will do that. No matter what and I think they're trying to set us up for success and they're doing a great job good to see follow me on facebook and twitter and Instagram Yeah Jake Tapper. You can tweet the show at the lead C._N._N.. Our coverage on C._N._N.. Continues Right now. Thank you so much for watching the lead with Jake tapper disappointed by better help the world's largest online counseling counseling program. My experience with better help has been simple and enlightening take advantage of this amazing service at better help dot com slash tapper and get ten percent off your first month. I am Bill Kristol feeling confused about politics. Who isn't that's why I?

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Bernie Goldberg Opines on the CNN Lawsuit

Bill O'Reilly's Free Podcast

14:39 min | 2 years ago

Bernie Goldberg Opines on the CNN Lawsuit

"Bringing Ma Bernie Goldberg now the reason I asked for Bernie to come out of his luxury living is because Goldberg and I have a long history. Together, we work at CBS Bernie was much more successful there than I was. But we were both reporters k we were out gathering facts trying to get to the truth. Even then I knew Goldberg was a really really good reporter. But then he wrote an op Ed in the Wall Street Journal, let's CBS was by civil left, which it was. It was there's no doubt Cronkite was a leftist in the closet, but the left is rather was an outward leftist. And so it was managing Gobert got hammered. They didn't want to hear the truth. But Goldberg continued is reporting. If you watched the HBO sport show, really good reporting by Gober. Okay. I mean, you learn a lot so Goldberg Dan gets a commentator job on the factor any bloviating commentary. All right, then he gets into a game that he's not used to because some people like them and some people though because he's commentator not a reporter now. All right. I wanted to give the history Goldberg. So when you saw Kosta stand up and try to go bait President Trump into a refugee caravan debate. What did you think? Enhancer that intensive instead I led to congratulate you Bill of the success of killing the SS. Thank you. It took the no it took a real brave reporter to write a book the killing the social security that is. And the very you're on thin ice with that one. Yeah, it's not that really congratulate you taking taking that subject. It's not a social does not not social security. It's the Nazis. Yeah. That's a good one. Yeah. Okay. So here's here's my take is going to take a mobile tempted to use the cliche. I don't know where to begin what you said about reporting. It tells stiffen from commentary is both right. And it's obvious Juba pasta as a White House correspondent has broken the rules. So many times it can't even count them. Specifically this last time around when he said, Mr President you call the caravan and invasion, and you know, it is an invade right there. He right there. He's wrong. Right. He's rung, and and Jim Acosta as much as I wanted say that he's shameless. Showboating? Even listening to you in the lead into this it occurs to me that he's a small part of the problem CNN is letting him do. That's right. It was when we were at CBS. I could've never forget about their liberal bias. I could've never gotten away with anything resembling this. This is unprecedented. I don't know if there was a memo, I doubted, I doubt there was any writ mental. But the word is out. We had CNN are going to be the we hate Trump network and anybody on our stamp on the air. And our producers will go along with this will be rewarded and anybody who doesn't will be punished because. Jim Acosta would not survive in any legitimate news operation, given what he's done. Well, that was my point. I've done a lot of talk radio last two or three weeks and promotion promotion of killing the SS not social security, but the Nazis, and I'm and I made the point that the three cable networks have now divided into money making machines based solely on Donald Trump to hate him one likes. Okay, but revenue revenue for all three is up because the partisans come in to the network, they want to hear, hey, they go to MSNBC CNN. They wanna hear love they go to FOX. So all three are benefiting from this and all standards have collapsed in pursuit of the dollar. You're absolutely correct. It's it's a business model. It's not a journalist model. It's a business model. Gumma capitalist. I want news organizations to make money. But one the one business that you don't give your own insz. What it wants is journalism. If you make cars, you should do a survey and say, we'll kind of cars do you want? You want SUV's we'll make more SUV's if you're making dresses for women. So we're kind of dresses do you want want short dresses are long dresses or red dresses or green dresses? But in news, you don't go to the audience in effect and give them what they want that. That's not journalism. That's something else. That's business. And that's what's happening and Jim Acosta as an example of this is this. See stood up place alone little on in any legitimate news operation would have shut him down a long long time ago. Now, what do you say what you say about the N and jobs are as much as Japan, I think we've now established at beyond a reasonable doubt. So what are you say about newspapers like the vaunted Washington Post and the New York Times, which have created a culture of liberalism, not only on their editorial pages, which they're entitled to do by the way. All right. So when you're an editorial list or an op Ed columnist says we both have been okay, you, they want your opinion. They're paying you for your opinion. Here's still a journalist O'Reilly Goldberger's still journalists, even though we're giving opinion, but it's clearly labeled opinion. But the culture that's created in the two most powerful newspapers in the country is we have to. Destroy this full Garin Trump to report on them. So our job to constantly and every second hammer him, and if we can't find something will make it up like, it's raining in Paris. He can't get on the chopper because the secret service, and you know, Mr. presents a little turbulent probably recommend you don't. And then we'll say he doesn't care about the military that that's the latest example. So what is it? What is it your opinion about the culture that's been created in the two big newspapers in this country? My complaint, isn't that they get things wrong. Because most of the times they don't might complaint is that they're relentless which is what you were just suggesting it's never ending. It just goes on and on and on with his anti Trump is to make two points about that one in my first book bias ascend. Point of that book. I said, Dan, rather and tenants don't mean in the morning, go into a an office pull the shades turn down the lights give the secret handshake and the secret salute and say, how are we going to get those Republicans and conservatives today there is no conspiracy in that sense the Ritz now they do come in in the morning. They say our we're gonna do right? Tell we're gonna get right. I know I know this is the half of the subject that you like to talk about and on this. I think you're absolutely right. The other half of the subject is that we have a president who who feeds them nonstop ammunition gives them nonstop munition. He he gets things wrong and being kind of not saying he lies which would he does very often. But he gets things wrong. All the time. He exaggerates when he isn't just plan on getting it wrong. He's needlessly nasty. He's a narcissist. And all that. So you have this is dual this this dance to the dead. And I am becuase of you agree with this conclusion of buying. This is not good for America. It also not good that he hates them. And they hate him is has to stop. But I don't think it's going to stop. Because now the damage has been done to the media there. Are never gonna come back to any kind of objectivity. Nobody will ever trust either. Or depending on what side you're on as far as Mr. Trump is concerned he isn't disciplined enough as Barack Obama and Bush, the younger were okay to stop the spontaneous anger. And that's what it is. That drives him to overstate things or misstate things. See he knows in his mind. He's getting hosed. And that started long before he was elected. He knows he's not getting fair shot. So he he lashes events so argument, you would have with somebody you're emotionally involved with who's betraying you. That's the best example. I can give you your attack or rebut of the person who's betraying you. It's not going to be a hundred percent accurate. You're going to say things, you shouldn't say things that you're exaggerating all of that is going to happen and. Anybody who's ever had an argument with a person they're emotionally involved with who was now on the outs will know what I'm talking about. That's what Trump's Louis. That's what he's doing is waking up in the morning and Pula shaves now with his crew go on how can we lie to the American people today not doing that? Okay. Right. It's it's venting. He's venting. All right. And unfortunately, it's got the dopey machine where you can bet at three in the morning. I mean, that's crazy. And that and then you're right. When he vents they add it goes in there, all we got another day cycle. Now, we can do this today. But there's no search for the truth. What I just told. You is absolutely true about Donald Trump. Why he does what he does one hundred percent trip. You'd never read that New York Times or the CNN you never hear it. They don't care about it. They don't care final. Final thing. You're right. It hurts the country. All right. We should have a much more orderly process where we could solve some problems. But I don't think the Democratic Party wants to solve the problems at all. I think they want to get him out in two thousand twenty. So we're gonna have two more years of absolute chaos and my wrong. Thank you. Listen. I know we gotta go. So one list you got some time. You got some time. I think no, I think you're right about that. I it was the first two years was democratic resistance. The last two years of the next two years will be democratic investigations subpoenas and nonstop, you know, looking into with a fine tooth comb into everything he's ever done wrong. If he's ever, you know, his nose in public. It's going to come out in the next two years on the accustomed thing. The president did make a mistake by lifting his credentials because it turns him a constant into a monster. You know, as well as I do that journalists, always circle the wagons. They're not introspective. I met more people who were the overnight shift at seven elevens selling camels to to insomniacs who have more introspection than most journalists. I know so these journalists are in introspective, they circle the wagons and turning the turning a constant Jimmy Costa into Lauder, Dan, rather or good friend, Dan, rather and Sam Donaldson or saying this is, you know, an attack on journalism in general in the first amendment. He should have just he what he should have done in. My view is not lifted his credentials and not cold on him for the foreseeable future and foreseeable. I mean. Maybe a year even. Yes. No, right. Bright as. But the Trump reply would be look we ginned up our base. The only people that see them in martyrs are the left wingers who hate me. I think look, you're probably right. That would have been. But if we're me as president, I think I want I want to send a message there. I did want to send a message. Let me let me say this about cheating his base. I think you're right about that. And I think that's the biggest mistake he will make it. We're no longer a center right country, Italy may ruin a in twenty twenty. And if she does she may vary. Well, win don't don't say on praise yet. Donald Trump's Thompson personality is turned on more people than have embraced him the ones that will support him. No matter what even if he should somebody on Fifth Avenue. Let's see as he wants said. That's maybe thirty percent. He has another ten percent or so of people who who will. Support him over a democrat. But not at those. Yes, typically, we are no longer a center right country. I think we're a centre-left country now, and I think Donald Trump by appealing as consistently as he does to his base and how he is failed. Miserably an expanding that ace to bring in independence and hold onto moderate Republicans think not making predictions two years in advance. I'm not that crazy. But I do think he's got a very very tough road ahead. If am not convinced he will run reelection. But if he decides to run religion, all right, Bernie, we appreciate it very much good provocative discussion. And I hope to see you soon. Thank you.

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Happy 9th, 99% Invisible; Acast moves to IAB v2 guidelines

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02:09 min | 1 year ago

Happy 9th, 99% Invisible; Acast moves to IAB v2 guidelines

"The latest from pod news dot net acosta sent an email to publish warning them that from october the first many acosta podcasters. We'll see a change in listener numbers in most cases at decrease switching to using measurement using the version two guidelines that not the first similar decreases increases were flanked by padraic hot being audio boom and lipson along with many others over the past couple of years simple cost has enabled pass through from spotify and integrated spotify data into their dashboard of note. You may notice differences. They say between your dashboards spotify numbers and what you see in your spotify podcast portal typically simple. Oh cost will be lower dreaded i._b. Version to again spotify undefined today for allowing children to list graphic podcasts episodes mark too explicit lissette but nevertheless contain gruesome detail are evading the new parental block function. A company called sound stripe is setting itself up as a competitor to podcast music for commercial music licensing. That's according to the iheart owned inside radio. Meanwhile podcast music service does not appear to yet have been agreed with any record record label. The b._b._c. has announced that it to remove its player radio app later this month for u._k. Listeners in favor of its bbc sounds app however i play a radio will continue to be available outside the u._k. The corporation clarified to us. It's not as if anything's going on in the u._k. Right now anyway and a priest linda podcast podcast script writer is interviewed in the sydney morning herald's today and opening today and you podcast recording both in north west houston texas. This is ninety nine percents. Cernan was happy ninth birthday to ninety nine percent invisible creator roman mars asks for nine star review on itunes and the secret history the future in its latest edition compares the evolution of radio in the past twenty years from independence to corporate wonders whether podcasting will be any different and that's the latest from our newsletter appalled news dot net.

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Pres. Trump contradicts Pence: "Anybody who needs a test gets a test"

Anderson Cooper 360

41:07 min | 8 months ago

Pres. Trump contradicts Pence: "Anybody who needs a test gets a test"

"By the time you finish this ad one thousand one hundred and fifty seven people will have plan their travel on sky scanner. Sky Scanner is here to make travel simple while finding you the best deals from flights and hotels to car rentals. We bring everything together in one place so you can plan the perfect trip from DC and beyond discover why over one hundred million travelers trust us every month search sky scanner or download. The Sky scanner APP today. Good Friday evening to you. Anderson is off tonight. I'm Jim shooter. We begin with perhaps the clearest example yet of how the president of the United States is conducting himself in the face of the growing corona virus outbreak and it is growing topping one hundred thousand cases cases globally. Today the death cout now rising as well. But here's a question. Does that figure grossly understate? How many Americans are actually infected and more disturbingly? Is the president deliberately standing in the way of an honest accounting? Let's take a look at what we learned today. We learned tonight that twenty-one passengers aboard the Grand Princess off the California coast have tested positive but only forty six of the more than three thousand passengers and crew on board have even been tested yet so this afternoon with all that as the backdrop with the markets falling and civic life in this country shrinking the president visited the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta. Ice President's Task Force held a briefing a short time afterwards back in Washington. It's possible that much of what the president said got lost in all the live coverage of that but because his remarks are so apparently revealing of how he approaches what after all affects all of us were showing them you up front and at some length his own words presumably reflecting his own thoughts and sensibilities and priorities. Here he began the day with senior counselor. Kellyanne conway declaring that. The outbreak has been contained which itself and evidently is not just looked at the numbers and with questions growing about the availability of testing president. Wait on that and then segue to the Ukraine phone call. It led to his impeachment buddy. That needs a desk gets to test we there there they have to test and the test to beautiful anybody that needs a test gets a test as of right now and yesterday anybody that needs to test that's important thing and the tests are perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. But this was not as perfect as that but pretty good. Well the facts may not back up with the president said just as a matter of fact on the testing which affects millions not the transcript which only affect the president himself here is what. Vice President Panther or the president put in charge of the response said just yesterday. We don't have enough test today to meet What we anticipate will be demand going forward fairly clear statement today when asked the vice president did say that allstate labs that have requested tests. Kids have received them and he pointed to the number of private labs now joining the testing effort but said that widespread testing for individuals might not be available for several more days however he did not characterize the availability of testing the way the president did. So there's that the US does lag far behind other countries in how many people get tested but there seemed to be something else. In addition to that the president who for days to the notion there were only fifteen total cases. Here appears not to walk now to want to do anything that would make. That number is even if the fact is that there are more people. In fact for instance that cruise ship off the coast of California. The president wants the passengers to stay on board and he doesn't mince words as to why I have great. Experts at looted Vice President is working twenty four hours a day in this stuff They would like to have the people come off. I'd rather have the people stay but I'd go with them. I told them to make the final decision I would rather because I like the numbers being where they are. I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship. That was their fault and it wasn't the fault of the people on the ship either okay. It wasn't their fault either and then mostly American so I can live either way with it. I'd rather have him stay on personally. American stay on board ship off. Shore you got that. He doesn't want the numbers to go up. Even if facts are that there are more people infected he did however ask about and boast about the ratings for his town hall last night on Fox but back to the serious stuff. The things that matter to you and me. The president falsely claimed that the administration was unique in trying to determine where the hotspots really are also suggested he would just as soon not do it being proactive. We're going out and looking for spots. Nobody else is doing not by leaving samples or anything else. We're going out and proactively looking to see with as a problem. We don't have to do that but we're doing it to see if we can find areas which trouble-spots. I even don't even know if I agree with that. You'll find out those areas just by sitting back and waiting factors. Other countries are testing more aggressively South Korea among them. Sitting back and waiting. The President says the question is waiting for what for news reports for rising hospital admissions or perhaps worse. He did not say whether he was basing what he said on a hunch as he did the other day about the mortality rate he did whoever it. Give himself high marks in the science. Here you know. My uncle was a great person who's at Mit he taught at MIT for. I think like a record number of years was great super genius. Dr John Trump. I like this stuff. Really get it. People are surprised. I understand every word of these doctors said. Had you know so much about this. Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should done that. Instead of running for president his uncle did by the way. Study a completely different field anyway. Presidential second thoughts aside. He is the president part of that job as president along with everything else involves working with fifty state governors win their states are getting hit by something that only the federal government truly has the resources to handle for Washington State. That now means fourteen. Fatalities universities have cancelled classes transportation coming to a standstill. Millions of lives changing in ways that this country has not seen about one hundred years ago. The great flu epidemic of Nineteen Eighteen. So with that in mind. Here's what the president said at the CDC remember in a crisis. Remember about how the vice president should work with. Washington's governor Jay Inslee by told my not to be complement the governor because that governor is a snake okay injury and I said if you're nice to him he's he will take advantage and I would have said. Now let me just tell you. We have a lot of problems with the governor and the governor of Washington. That's we have many of you. Problems that the president did say earlier. He was weekend working with and speaking with the Democratic governor of California different words. Of course for the Governor. Washington state problems. We should point out that are far greater for the people of Washington. It would appear far sadder as well for the president of the United States for more now on all of this. Let's check in with Jim Acosta at the White House. You know you look at the president's comments there Jim on him wanting to keep the numbers of confirmed cases down. Is the president deliberately standing the way of an honest accounting of how many infected Americans there are Jim? I think the president is engaging in some wishful thinking as His experts trying to contain the outbreak. He's trying to contain the political fallout. And all of this. But here's the thing A million tests are going to be going out to distribute it across the country over the next couple of days millions more after that but the president was asked this question the CDC earlier today. How can you fully understand how big the problem is if people aren't being tested on a wide scale? And here's what he had to say about that. The numbers have been united. Yeah we have been diagnosing cases here beginning originally linked to travel. So you can see. There was a pregnant pause there where the officials really didn't have a good answer for that but Jim unless they WANNA stand in the way of those delivery trucks distributing those testing kits over the next couple of weeks They're not gonNA be able to to stop the data coming in and as soon as people are getting tested on a on a widespread scale the experts here in Washington and people inside the administration have a better understanding as to how how broad this problem is and and the suspicion inside the president's Task Force right now is obviously that it's much bigger than where it stands right now. There's been a direct contradiction about the availability of test. How many people can get tested? Can everybody who wants to be tested. Beat be tested presents. Say One thing vice president Granting yesterday not all those tests available today you ask the vice president about that. Did he give you any more clarity? Not Really Jim. I think what the vice president was trying to do was essentially clean up a little bit of what he said yesterday and he was trying to address this concern that there aren't enough tests out there and and they are insisting to us that these tests will be available. Broadly over the next couple of weeks. the vice president said as much during this press conference. They're going to have another briefing over here at the White House tomorrow. On all of this of the closest we got from a straight answer from vice president pence during this briefing. Is that perhaps in the next couple of weeks? Any American who goes into their doctor and says I think I have a flu Perhaps I might have corona virus at that tests could be conducted But at this point all they're saying is that it's going to be up to these individual medical professionals to determine whether or not a test should actually take place so it doesn't sound like they're anywhere near to the point where they could do this on a widespread scale across the country of that's GonNa take some time and they. They're just prepared to admit that at this point. Jim. Is there a sense at the White House of why the president went off-message apparently off message at the CDC Today? I know that's happened before. But is there understanding in that building as to what the President intends here? It's interesting talk trump adviser about this just before we went on the air and the political people around the president believe he has good instincts and that when he's a he's a counterpuncher when he gets punched he punches back and that formula has always worked for him They believe it didn't work so well in the two thousand eighteen midterms but they felt like it worked in the two thousand sixteen campaign at worse than his dealings with Congress. The question that you get when you talk to some of his advisers now is whether or not it works in a case like this. This is a very different. We're middle of a national medical emergency and so whether or not the president goes out there and take swings at Governor Inslee of Washington for example calls a mistake compares these tests to his call with the leader of Ukraine. Whether or not that's that's going to be effective with the American people. I think there are some real questions inside the president's political team as to whether or not that is a good strategy at this point but you saw the president earlier this afternoon he is not changing the way he communicates about this crisis. You contrast that with the vice president a very different posture from the vice-president trying to sound in command trying to calm people down not engaging in that kind of rhetoric. I think it'll be interesting to find out in the coming days. As to how the P- the politics shakes out on this and whether or not the president's approval ratings go down when it comes to the handling of this crisis Jim their political strategies and then their strategies for handling health crisis That's right imagine those are different things. You Jim Acosta. Thanks very much perspective now from CNN. Chief medical correspondent Dr Sanjay. Gupta also doctor Seema Yasmin. She's director of the Stanford Health Communication Initiative Former CDC disease detective and see National Security Analyst. Lisa Monaco she coordinated the Obama Administration's response to the abolish crisis. So we will have the experience on the air here. We're gonNA focus on the hard questions I know people at home. Want to know what the facts are here. So so so Sanjay if I could start with you. The president is saying today anybody. The a test gets a test. The vice president said yesterday. We don't have the tests to do that. What are the facts? The tests aren't out there yet. You Know Jim. I think you and I've been talking about this for a week and I think you've probably asked me this question and I and I. I keep hoping that I can give you better answer every time but you know the tests are not out there yet. The the we heard a million tests. Maybe we're supposed to be out by the end of this week at the end of the week They're not out yet. By the way a million tests doesn't necessarily mean a million people can be tested It you know. Sometimes we will require a couple tests or even more than that. We also hear that when the test do go out. They're likely to go out to areas where there's evidence of this community spread so Washington State California for example but even this ship cruise ship Jim which has been in the news a lot today They were able to test forty-six people out of the three thousand plus people on that ship. So it's not even clear that there were enough test for for that ship right now. So they're not there yet. I I mean. I think that they're going to get there I think that they've also empowered. State hospitals and university hospitals do testing and then to commercial providers lab core and quest. Labcorp released a statement today saying by Monday. They should be able to start taking samples in and turning test results around within three to four days. But you know this is taken a long time and and I. It's not one of those things where you can necessarily catch up after the fact it's good. It's good to test people. But we're behind on surveillance quite a bit Just quickly fifteen hundred tests so far by the CDC have been performed You know seven eight weeks into this. Now compare that to nearly one hundred sixty thousand testing Korea so you can get an idea of the order magnitude difference here Jim with a much smaller population because we're GONNA chip one seven years. If my math is correct here of the people on that ship who's been tested so far and they know the Koran is on the ship. It's it's mind boggling Let me ask you about the president's answer there when he said I don't need to have the numbers double because of people on that ship. Is that revealing that? The president's focus here is on artificially keeping down the number of confirmed cases even when the science shows which I imagine what folks at home on a focus on that there are likely far more people actually infected. Look I think it's quite clear? The president said it himself. He wants to keep those numbers down and we should be focusing on the science. We should be focusing on the facts and what we've quite clearly heard today. And the lengthy press conference that Vice President Pence and the public health and medical experts on did today which I listened to and I watched it is that we do not have the testing capacity out there yet now they are working with commercial laboratories to to get the test kids out there and that's a good thing and we did hear from experts about their plan for that but the fact of the matter is as we get those test kits out there as they get distributed get tested the cases. We're going to go up and so it is really not responsible. And it just isn't factual to say that it's contained and again I don't say that as political criticism is not shouldn't this isn't about politics shouldn't be about politics and I don't say it as an alarmist issue but rather just sticking to the facts a basic question. Is it not doctor. Yasmin you cover this. If you WANNA treat people but but also crucially keep infected people from infecting others. You have to know if they're infected and I have to imagine people at home who are hearing this or wondering well goodness if my child or my grandmother is not being tested needs to be tested and therefore they may not get the treatment they need and Jimmy Survey on the one hand you have political strategy and then you have health crisis strategy when this already so much uncertainty and so many unknowns about a new virus what we need is consistency and transparency around the numbers around. What is known and I'm worried at the beginning of this crisis we were looking back. Those of us who have studied the SAWS epidemic to say well back then. We saw that. There was a critical delay in transparency from Chinese officials. And we hope that doesn't happen now. Unfortunately what we're seeing is a potential transparency issue with American health officials. It's the CDC's job. I worked there are convoked for the fat. There are thousands of accomplished experts. There whose job it is to track. What Disease Spreading in America? It's how we know at any given point. Twenty two million Americans had flu. This many died from the flu. What we're seeing though is numbers disappear from the CDC website on Monday. We had a clear idea than we do now if you look at the CDC website now it looks like about one hundred. Americans tested positive. But if you look at the Johns Hopkins Tracker you see. It's more than two hundred so to actually get an accurate picture of WHO's been tested. And how they tested positive or negative. You have to actually call the fifty individual states and then the territories and find out bits of information from here or there. That's not how public health works. It's about being collaborative it's about having the CDC allowed to do its job to be that central coordination point. It's not happening song. We have a number on the screen at nearly three hundred cases in twenty six states. I asked you this question this morning but I'm GonNa ask you it again once. Real comprehensive testing begins. How quickly and how far does that number rise I think it rises quickly and significantly And I mean th that's One of those things. That's GONNA sound alarming to people and I get that the numbers going up obviously is not a good thing but it also probably means. There's a lot of people out there who weren't that sick. That may get tested now and And that's part of why these numbers are GONNA go up. Because as as we've talked about quite a bit you know some eighty percent of people are going to have minimal or no symptoms. But you know I. It is concerning this point that you raise Jim that The president was concerned that You know he doesn't want the the people on the ship to come on land because that'll increase the numbers You know the numbers are GonNa go up and and you know. I don't know how that's going to be handled At the White House like Sema said I hope that there is just full transparency here because with that data you can actually You can actually start to plan More effectively Americans have a reasonable right to honesty on this when health is at stake. Dr Gupta Doctor. Yasmin Lisa Monaco. Thanks so much. There's more to discuss on this next. Meanwhile we're breaking news the president's Acting Chief of Staff. He's out we'll tell you who's in later major metropolitan area that is also at the center of the outbreak. What life is like in Seattle? That's coming up ahead on three sixty some interesting images from that town. These things tend to happen on Friday nights. We have breaking news out of the White House involving one of the president's closest advisers now a former adviser for that. Let's get quickly back to Jim. Acosta Mulvaney he's gone. He's gone He was an acting. Chief of staff never became a permanent chief of staff over here at the White House. And that's never a good sign when it comes to your longevity. The president announcing on twitter just in the last several minutes that he's naming The Republican Congressman from North Carolina Mark Meadows as new chief of Staff This has been speculated Jim for some time. This has been expected for some time. Meadows is a staunch trump. Loyalist as we all know But he's been quietly campaigning behind the scenes Talking to our sources meadows has been pushing for this for some time and I think Mulvaney has seen some of that writing on the wall. The president obviously was not happy when the Acting Chief of staff was in the briefing room during the impeachment saga and essentially admitted to a quid. Pro Quo saying they happen all the time. These things happen for political reasons that never was fully rectified. In the president's view is always a problem for him but we could put this tweet up on screen and really. This is what the president tweeted just a short while ago. Saying I'm pleased to announce that Congressman Mark Meadows will become White House chief of staff. I've known lock of long known and worked with mark and the relationship is a very good one. I WanNa thank acting chief a Mick Mulvaney. For having served the administration so well he would become The United States on void for Northern Ireland. One thing I will tell you. I talked to a staffer in the White House. Who's close to Mulvaney just in the last several minutes? This staffer says this is a this is a job that Mulvaney wanted to be the special envoy and he's looking forward to it. This official was saying that Mulvaney was not railroaded that they had a decent amount of heads up about this at obviously would be the case if the president is naming and the special envoy as he's announcing congressman Mark Meadows. No question about Jim. As we've been talking about these staunch loyalists coming back into the fold. that is also happening again tonight with this naming of Mark Meadows as the new chief of staff just recall just a couple of weeks ago. Mick. Mulvaney was at Oxford saying some some critical things things that don't sounded like he was putting some distance between himself and the president on a number of policies. I think that was the case of what's happening tonight. Jim and it would be the first time someone was offered offramp after being fired in Washington. Jim Acosta the White House. Thank you joining us now. Senior political analyst Kirsten Powers USA Today columnist and former Clinton administration official and CNN. Political commentator Scott Jennings. He's a former special assistance to president. George W Bush Kirstin first of all loyalty seems to be the calling card for positions particularly following the president's impeachment. You see that director of National Intelligence You see that now staff yeah. There's been an evolution since trump. I came in the beginning. He did have some people there that were actually. I think giving him information and the fact that he didn't necessarily WanNa hear and those people have slowly been moved out and replaced by people who are more loyalist mark. Meadows obsolete vaulted in category of one of his staunchest supporters on Capitol Hill and. I don't think he mick Mulvaney workover really GonNa last long presidents never really been that crazy about him and I think gyms right the big moment. Yeah well you should. Monitor spoke with the truth Scott Scott Jennings. You've watched the president's choices and in these last few weeks and days or is the president building a good team a team that gives him honest advice or is he building. A team built purely on loyalty. Well I think he's building a team in which he has confidence. Look I think Mulvaney did a good job for the president. He held the job for quite some time and obviously went. Through some turbulent periods these are high anxiety high stress positions and people. Don't hold them forever and this I think is probably been in the works. Also I think it's important to point out. This looks like an orderly transition. Obviously Mulvaney wanted this appointment to be. The envoy for Northern Ireland Meadows has been in the mix for some time so I think this is sort of expected orderly and now the president is putting his team around him that he wants to have for the stretch drive for their reelection campaign so obviously he loves meadows. Meadows loves him and The job of meadows though isn't really to come in and make policy it's to run the White House and to make sure that the administration is functioning in a way that carries out the president's agenda and obviously in this job. There's one thing that matters. Do you have the confidence of the President? Do you have the pleasure of the President? I don't is that the only thing that matters is in these positions that doesn't some level of confidence in speaking truth the powder power matter and you see that. Well I mean I think that the president and meadows have the kind of relationship where they can be honest with each other as I understand it and And so I would expect that to be a part of their relationship. I think that at this level of the White House it would not be normal for a president to appoint someone that he didn't agree with or that he didn't have confidence and where that he was constantly fighting. It usually white people of these jobs that support your agenda and I was fighting. I'm just talking about being able to deliver honest information. Here's Pearson what's your what's your reaction to that Well I think look presidents obviously wanted to have people who are aligned with the way that they think about things but I do think good leaders have people around them. We'll tell them things that they don't WanNa hear and don't just have people who you can basically push around and it seems like the president since when he first came in he did have some of those kinds of people around but he's gotten rid of all of them and you know and I think that and it's not that Mick Mulvaney was necessarily standing up to him. I mean there's a reason he was acting. I don't think trump ever really felt had that much a confidence in him. But but it's the president's made clear he wants to be the person who's just basically front and center doing all the talking and he wants people around that are going to be supporting actors in his show. Jason Scott Jennings good to have you both. We'll take a quick way because we return to the Coral Corona Virus Story. The president the government's response to it as the outbreak grows. Stay with more now on the crow virus outbreak and how the president is handling it the government how he is conducting himself and the message it sends and how the people are seeing it back. Houston powers and Scott Jennings Scott if I could begin with you. You were with President. George W Bush had to deal with his own smaller scale but there were concerns at the time about SARS etcetera and you know the importance of speaking honestly to the people in the midst of this. Just give you an example presences. Today anybody can be tested. Wants to be tested the vice president who he put in charge of it says. Actually we don't have the tests. We're trying to get them out. They're not there yet Why that disconnects? Why can't the administration speak with one voice on this? Well I think the president was projecting me optimism and confidence that the American people will have access to the test as fast as we can deliver. What he said was tested. That's not true. Like I said I think the president was trying to project the optimism that will be able to deliver the tests. I think the vice president's spoke more precisely which is that. We don't have the test today but I think they're obviously working as hard as they can to get them out as quickly as they can so I think it was a difference between someone who's projecting optimism and someone who's projecting precision or Kearse. Couldn't someone who's telling the truth and someone has died? I don't know it's health information if I'm if my grandmother is sick and wants to be tested by the doctor and the tests aren't there. It's not an optimistic your family while you're what's true. He's not getting accurate information and he hasn't been giving accurate information throughout this crisis telling people that they should go to work. And the you know everything's just GonNa be fine. Don't even go to the doctor. I mean that's just not the information that you're getting from health experts and his job in. This situation is to help. Reassure people help provide stability. He's not doing that. And if you don't believe me. Look at the markets right. That's not a partisan situation. Those are people who are responding to the fact that they don't feel like the. Us has control over the situation. And if you look at other countries in their response compared to the United States clearly the United States is very far behind the eight ball despite the fact we were given so much advanced warning because this happened in China so there should have been more than enough time to plan for in Europe before I spoke Scott earlier today with Republican. Senator Bill Cassidy. Who is who is an MD himself and he met as we spoke this morning. He said listen. He's dealt with public health issues before I asked him if it was a mistake at the. Us Wasn't testing enough people quickly and broadly enough early. Here's his answer. It was a mistake. One thing we learned from the Chinese pretty early on is that there are people who were infected but not symptomatic. The reasoning made that point. Scott is because those as symptomatic people are still going around spreading so you need to test them early could identify them to keep them from going out and giving it to someone else. When you hear that from a Republican Senator Does that make you think the US should attested earlier and more broadly? Well I I think I mean yes I mean. Obviously he loved to test everybody as fast as possible and that obviously didn't happen but they're working to make it happen. I mean I I think the job of the president in this particular case in these cases where you know. These are non-political situations is to project. Honesty confidence transparency optimism. And calm and I think in the case of the president he's got these experts Fao she and and the folks at the CDC. Who If if it were me I would let them do most of the talking honestly people trust them their experts. They you know they give this sort of calm information about what's happening and I also think there could be a broad acceptance here at the political layer of the administration that people are GonNa get this. It's going to spread. It's a virus. It's obviously spread all over the world. But that doesn't mean we should be in panic mode and the way to keep people from panicking is just to be honest with them and just tell them. This is how many people have it. This is how many we expect to get it. These are when the tests are coming. You know sort of you know. Here's just the facts. Ma'am kind of operation so less hyperbole more more just straight up. Here's what's happening. I think would respond to that. We would a doctorate earlier. This week is the best antidote to fear. Is Honesty right? You could make that case just quickly hereson. Did you see the administration making a turn? And if not quickly enough but but getting around to responding as necessary. I don't know I mean that's the thing. I don't know how you can believe anything that they're saying it because I don't think I think Scott's that is what you want is honesty but I don't think the president has been honest. I think if you look at the way he was talking today when he visited the CDC the things he was saying. I mean he actually thinks he is an expert. Scott I mean he was saying you know maybe I should have done this instead of running for President I mean what is he talking about? We'll we'll have a test in the coming days and weeks particularly is more tested. Thanks to both of you. Great to have you on tonight. Just ahead more on our top story tonight. We head to the state of Washington where fourteen have died so far from the krona virus the most of any state how Americans their coping when three sixty returns. Hey it's Taylor rooks take it. There is back with more access more athletes more conversations featuring the most high profile players including Kevin Durant Chris Paul Jalen Brown and more watch season two on the our APP. This is Dr Sanjay Gupta. Join me for. Cnn's new podcast corona virus fact versus fiction. We know you have questions we want to help you. Find Answers. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. And Send Me Your questions on social media at Dr Sanjay Gupta. Let's go to Washington. State could be a sign of things to come at least eighty cases of corona virus there and as we mentioned fourteen deaths the most of any state so far. There's also word tonight. The two more elder care facilities in Washington have received presumptive positive results for the illness. That's of course concerned because older people more vulnerable and these are just a few of the headlines and realities that people are people are coping with. Cnn's Omar Jimenez has more from how it looks like that. They're on the ground Seattle. There's a new reality beginning to form affecting nearly every aspect of life from business travel and even education on a normal Weekday Morning Mike. Today these hallways would be packed with students as you can see. There are absolutely none. This school is one of thirty three in the Seattle Area School district. That will look like this for foreseeable. Future empty classrooms instead moving to online learning for up to fourteen days. All as a precaution for the novel current fires. I was actually prayerful that it was the right decision and you feel like it is absolutely no doubt Dr Michelle. Reid is the superintendent of Seattle's northshore school district where parent volunteers tested positive for the krona virus. And we have a fact pattern that affects the safety and health of our students that we're going to stop and recognize that. It's not business as usual but this district wasn't alone. The University of Washington announced shortly after they too are suspending in person classes. We are very much guided with the very best Public Health information possible between the university and the North Shore School district. That's around eighty thousand. Students now out of classrooms statewide cases have soared going from just a few to more than seventy five and less than a week including double digit debts. The wider Seattle area has felt the difference. It's can be stressful when you're just in your day to day trying to do what you normally do and you're running into stumbling box of things you know beyond your control on a rainy day. I mean I mean I hardly anybody around here and you see groups kind of happy but some Seattle signature fish market famous for toss and fish saved. They're not changing a thing. It doesn't matter who you are where you come from. You'RE GONNA travel this way. I'M GONNA give it to you and while life in Seattle has an entirely shutdown. It is adjusting to a new reality at the epicenter. The novel Corona Virus Break United States. Ange in the legal world hasn't been immune to the shadow of the Corona Virus. Either as a judge here in Washington State announced they would be postponing all in person. Court proceedings at multiple houses here in Seattle. Many of these places are in crucial assessment Periods University of Washington for example. Just last night learn. One of their staffers tested positive for corona virus. But they say those two factors weren't related as they were already planning to close down classrooms before they even learned of that staffer but they say just an overall reminder of the precautions they already are putting in place. Tens of thousands of students just at University of Washington Perhaps sign of things to come Omar Jimenez. Thanks very much. Just ahead. This hour. The controversy and serious allegations surrounding one of the president's staunchest defenders in Congress with my friend. Chris Cuomo see what he's working on for Cuomo Primetime. It's top of the hour. Chris will say old friend and like we're joking around. We've known each other over thirty years. I know and I'm thirty one postal you know we met as babies anyway. It's good to have something. Make US smile because with this president said tonight about Corona virus and what he compared it to and how he deceived people. It can't be allowed. It's not just politics anymore. He's playing with people's welfare and health. We have to call it out. We have the mayor from Seattle on the follow up on your reporting and hear her about the state of play there the reality and Al Franken in his first interview since he had to leave. The Senate is on tonight. Well a lot of people but they're gonNA find out the facts come out. They're going to see it Chris. Lafortune or don't Miss Full Circle Anderson's digital new show that gives him a chance to dig in this important topics and have in depth conversations. You can catch it streaming live weekdays five PM eastern CNN dot com slash. Full circle up next this hour. One of the president's most vocal supporters on Capitol Hill under fire Republican Congressman. Jim Jordan of Ohio swears that he knew nothing about a now deceased doctor whose victims and an independent report say sexually abused athletes. While Jordan was an assistant wrestling coach at Ohio State University but multiple victims are telling CNN's Drew Griffin. That simply not true. He calls them all liars. But more and more former Ohio State University wrestlers are coming forward to say their former assistant coach. Congressman. Jim Jordan. New Student athletes were being sexually abused and are dumbfounded to understand how Jordan can deny it. That's a lie. He's lying period period. He's a liar. Tito Vazquez is the latest a walk on wrestler in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine. Who took an elbow to the nose center team? Dr Richard Strauss to stop nosebleed. The doctor fondled his genitals there are some wrestlers with Jordan over to my left hand side and that said something to the effect that dachshunds are freezing and that he you know. He examined me thoroughly extremely thoroughly. You know my private parts and everybody was just like you know kind of snickering Jordan. Say I have nothing to do with this but Jordan heard what you said. Oh he he heard what I said. Vasquez a public schoolteacher for the past twenty-seven years is the six Ohio state wrestler to tell CNN. They directly told Jim Jordan of the abuse or Jim Jordan was present when someone was recalling abuse by the team's doctor. Eight more former wrestlers tells C. An end the abused by Dr Richard. Strauss was such a routine topic of conversation that it's inconceivable Jordan did not know yet Jordan now a powerful Republican congressman refuses to budge six wrestlers. Absolutely say you about distress because either told you at the time or their guys hurt. You guys are still asking about this. After the Perkins Skill you Clinton's law firm investigator Dennis and didn't even mentioned my name once. German mentioned that twenty to nothing wrong about it. Every single coaches said the same thing. I have all kinds of athletes have said the same thing I have and the reason they've all said that because the truth look if I didn't know there was some kind of problem some kind of abuse out of are athletes. What they're saying is not sure. Richard Strauss killed himself in two thousand five last year. An independent investigation concluded while Dr Strauss worked at Osu over two decades. He sexually abused at least one hundred seventy seven males student patients. Jim Jordan called the report of indication because it did not name him. The report did not name any wrestling coach at Ohio. State did not find documentary. Evidence coaches were aware of complaints against Strauss but twenty two coaches confirmed to the investigative team that they were aware of rumors and or complaints about Strauss former. Osu Wrestler Don Yasha yet says Jordan is one of the coaches who knew because he told him in January of nineteen ninety-three yet went to see Strauss for a thumb spring and the doctor tried to pull down his pants yet. Says he kicked? Open the doctors door to escape. Jordan was right outside next to an ice machine. He jumped up. Like what's going on. I said I said coach. He just tried to give me a physical exam for my thumb injury. Look like a baseball swelled up and he was like man if he ever tried that I would kill him. Jordan supporters say yes can't be trusted because of a past conviction for fraud but to other wrestlers told CNN they witnessed the encounter or Dr Strauss took from me. That day was my dignity last year former wrestlers Dan Richey and Mike flue she told the Ohio legislature that among athletes and coaches Strauss's sexual abuse was an open discussion. I do recall somebody bringing up something to one of the assistant coaches and his response was simply well. If you ever tried that with me I'd snap his neck like a sticker drive also would and I remember the exact phrase about that happened to be at breakneck. The coach who talked about breaking Strauss's neck was Jim Jordan according to both Richie and flashy who didn't name him in front of the legislature but have since confirmed it to CNN. And what they're saying now. It's just not acting like flu. She Dan reaching you. Don't remember telling them break the guy's neck if he did that to you quite a story drew. Griffin joins me now drew the these wrestlers. There were calling very specific facts about Jordan's knowledge of this is simply not responding to those. He's not in Jim because he was either interrupting us or as you saw walking away. We did give him all the details in writing. We've got no response. Just this flat. Denial goodness Jordan says these wrestlers. He says they're the liars. What incentive do they have to lie according to those behind the Congressmen? The wrestlers are out for money lawsuit perhaps with the School of settlement. But I gotTa tell you these wrestlers by and large. Jim are telling me they really liked Jordan. As a coach and a friend many of them told us they're speaking out now because they've been watching a live say for two years and they just had it goodness Well patients running thin apparently drew griffin. Thanks very much for the reporting of the news continues tonight. So I'M GONNA hand it over to Chris Cuomo Cuomo Primetime.

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"Western fires. I'm Ed Donahue with an AP news minute at the White House. President Trump talked about the wildfires northern and southern California. Pray for the victims. And there are more victims than anybody would ever even think possible at least forty two people have died in northern California to in southern California. Sources tell the AP homeland security secretary Kirsten Nielsen may be out as soon as this week. The sources say President Trump has soured on Nielsen over her handling a border issues. CNN is suing the White House CNN should be ashamed of itself. Having you work in for them. You are a rude. Terrible person. You shouldn't be working for CNN CNN says the revocation of reporter, Jim Acosta's, White House press credentials last week, violates the constitutional right of freedom of the press press secretary, Sarah Sanders, says CNN is grandstanding police outside Cleveland say they found no signs of anyone with a gun. A hospital was under lockdown reports of an active shooter. I'm Ed Donahue.

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