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The Righteous Anger of Aaron Peskin

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The Righteous Anger of Aaron Peskin

"On today's show. Recovering the Bobmobile from the impound and protests against the city's resumption of poverty tows. Supervisor Aaro n Peskin says he'll seek treatment for alcohol after a testy exchange with Rec and Parks GM Phil Ginsburg . All this got the audio all this and more coming up. Let's get the show on the road all right. This is the Bob Show. It is June 13th, 2021, episode seven. I am Justin. This is the Bob and the Beast of Bob. The B east is boning away. You'll hear the bone crunching between his massive jowls. As we do this. So here on the Bob show we complain a lot. But we also celebrate victories victorious week it was indeed. The bob mobile is back. The bob mobile recovered. Tell us what happened. Well you know the law the beginnings of this Adventure yeah yeah so Anyway if you don't listen to last week's episode listened last week so anyway after last week's episode brother just kind enough to ford me The paperwork required to retrieve the vehicle. And catch a break. If you don't have enough money to pay the thousand and sixteen dollars at this thing wound up being assessed that this is under. The the city's sf mta's toe toe fee reduction program that we talked about a little bit less and they were kind enough After i got the car back to send me they were gonna put a lien on it or they were going to seize it. I don't know what you call it. informing that it was worth less than five hundred dollars. They had a special. Yeah they got it here so special for for cars that are worth less than five hundred dollars that they want to take auction off right so anyway. I took the form which told me to go to one fifty south in. Mta is located You know to Suetake for me. See if i could somehow justify getting the car back because other than my daughter. Nobody wanted me to get the car back. Because it's you know falling apart inside though it runs great and i love driving it and i don't need any other car used last year. I think maybe all three thousand miles. So i i i get on the bus. Go to buses and they get to the mta I go in wait in line. Doesn't take too long get to the front and the woman there tells me. oh now. here's all this stuff but now we don't do this here any longer after down to four fifty seven. Th street where your car is and they will do that. Here's the form no. You can't fill it out here and here's another car to call site to go to. It's the the impound lot on seventh street. Impound lot seven across the street from eight fifty bryant where they throw you jail. They do that too. That's true though. I haven't been in that jail. I've been in a few. But i have not been in bryan street. I've been a guest there. You have they combinations there. The baloney sandwich was exquisite. The baloney sandwiches universal. In fact. if you're missing it. You can go down to saint peter and paul's here and get your baloney sandwich. So anyway you wind up down at the impound. I go to the impound lot and i show them my form and i try and show my documentation that i didn't really make any money last year and They say oh no. No we get a stamp for this. Backup at one seventy otis street. Now otis street is a couple blocks above One fifty was the beast. Now the beasts was not until really pissed because the beasts could have been getting a good walkout had the walk the beasts. Before i left and i'm going to have to walk the beast when i get home and the beasts needs you know four to six miles exercise. He's getting half yeah he's not yet. Yeah and i'm not happy because you know i'm walking around. You might have been useful in the neighborhood. Walking around in. Who knows so you back up to back up to otis street. Wait in line there go in and They hooked me up. They say you know you're so broke that we're going to give your car back for one hundred dollars. Work that that work but they said it oh to street. You should go over tobacco. Mta and get a lifeline card. So that next time this happens to thirty -ticipant is going to happen again. You don't need to get to stamp you. just show them the carton. Give your car back and the lifeline. That's the for the free muny card right now. That's that's another car. Which i had sent away for while i was at mta the first time. That's a senior card. But when i went back there the woman who quite said look you know next time. You need a stamp for this. You said she'd stay up. What do you mean stab said they. They made me go to oda street for the stamp. She looked at me kind of feist. I didn't know that. I as much as you wanted to. Send me four fifty to walk all the way back up here. But now. I'm back for the car that they told me over otis street that you should give me his apnea cards for people under sixty five. You need the whatever the other cards gone called where you get the bus as i said gave that and i sent away for it. She's well that'll work. So i go back down to four fifty seventh on the way i had passed where they give out Where there's a city health was called Was city health to the anyway you can get you can apply for medical and you can apply for food stamps. Or whatever they call food stamps and anything else. You might need So my stopping you know. See what this is all about. Maybe i can get a card from these folks. I don't yeah. I qualify for the food. Stamps i qualify for the medi cal i qualify for the supplemental qualify all this stuff. I don't take it but a qualified for but anyway. I figured the cards might be useful. You know it could be like one of these aaa cards. Were on the cards. Where you get like discounts in old chitter porch could be fucking great right. So i stopped there just for shits and giggles because you know up to eight or nine miles of walking by now and i need a break. I gotta sit out with my peeps the poor so so so i go there. I get all that stuff and They don't have any cards for me. And i go back down to four fifty seven th to get the car to bail the car out where you know. They're delayed see me again. Of course on the most fun. They've had all day probably a week. So you know you know sympathetic behind the counter guy had an old car himself that he loved and and He said it's one hundred dollars i said. Wow that's cool. But i knew that from one seventy. There's another thing for first timers you first time tog- people towers out there where you can also catch prey on your first time. I guess but you didn't get the first timer. No i don't need the first time but that's only probably half or third or i mean they take something off substantial amount off put for one hundred bucks. I think for the first time where you can only get bucked off The first time is not as good deal as the the poverty. qualification right. If you need the paperwork to prove your poor. I mean it's like enough that you go in there rags and smell bed. You gotta have some pay per for this. Which fortunately i had finally after. What was it three trips to three places the yeah One two three well two trips to the same place. Mta one trip to otis three and two trips to four fifty n the stop in between a health and human services just for shits and giggles. Because you might as well make this you know something to talk. As i know all of what might have somebody else. Who's you know. An indigent might have to go through. And who wouldn't probably be able to figure this out as quickly as i did or with humor because you know you know i i had a few dollars in my pocket if i wanted to get stopped and have a beer or something in the way i could. We're going to get into alcohol on the job later in the show. You know. I personally think you should do all your drinking. In the morning. it's much healthier out of the just well. You can process you. Don't wanna be drinking later in the day it messes with the renal system at three in the morning. When your liver purges. It's much harder drink. I work later all right all right and the old days. You would not have considered going to work with drinking you. Many a politician is followed. That that adage you drink. Well hell you in this town. How could you not so anyway. I packed but there's war so that we goat ago up back in there. The guys are out there you they go look for my car. We walked to the far end of place. No car yeah. Why covered the whole lot. I know i know every inch of the whole thing now and they finally found that up in front in the past now we was buried three cars deep so they drag it out and everything so the question was were all of your possessions in there. Oh these people were all great. I mean everybody. i came across. That helped me through this. They you know i i. It's not uncommon to to get your car back in. It's been you know ransacked by what whoever's you know towed it or whatever. I don't know that that's true. All those cars. There didn't look like they've been ransacked. They don't go in the car to get it they put it on a lift and they drag it off your car's presumably locked and you didn't get you didn't get a charged for the lift. They charge you for detailed thing here. Where do you think the thousand and fifteen where they call that when they dragged the car around. Let's see storage citation storage to toe. Toe passenger view dolly dali towed six bucks paid forty. Six bucks did not pay for any dollars for everything all right but they charged me forty six twice because they had the dalai cup of course out of the way. Define my car berry. You guys are interested. Well so what day was that day the week that was monday. That was monday one day. Two days later on wednesday outside of sf mta office. This is what was going on poverty account. Mta people's homes poverty does not no parkas vehicles was giving them tickets totally their homes away feeling that belonging to resume. Poverty is shameful acts shelter in place so that was Carlos watkins of the coalition on homelessness and heavier bremond of Community housing partnership We talked last week about how during the pandemic the city put moratoriums on towing cars Remain in the same spot for seventy two hours or have registrations expired more than six months or have Five delinquent citations of more and all those moratoriums ended on may well one one of them ended on may seventeenth. The other one's going to end. June twenty-first So that's what these people were out protesting and you know. I mentioned last week. The the stark contrast between the city's decision to end these moratoriums on poverty toews versus the city's willingness to continue the anti-car barricades on jfk. Drive and great highway. And i do i should say i i should have one small correction. I misspoke slightly. When i said that those barricades have been made permanent. I should have said that. The barricades will continue as pilot programs after the shelter in place orders. Lifted in the city. Reopens continue the decision about whether to make them. Permanent will be basically all but a formality When those programs and I think that it's looking very likely that they are going to become permanent. Because that's what people in city government want and that's why they slid these things in under cover of darkness during the pandemic. You you introduce these pilot programs and you know as i said. It's very difficult to take them away from people who have money and power once you've introduced them and it's very easy to take away things from people who have no money no power like these poverty. To- moratoriums well you know we city government wants this city. Government wants this because well heeled and well funded community groups not the ones that represent the homeless now but the ones that represent the landed interests the real estate interest those neighborhoods and see value in increasing their property value. They want it to happen. And those organizations. Those neighbor of organizations have a lot of outs and they donate at least members impossibly the organization. Someone themselves probably not because they're nonprofit. They donate a lot of money to these people's campaigns. Yeah so you know. They're the ones that wanted. Closed as if by coalition nba action. All those drastic character and those characters are the ones that have closed down these roads and highways and And who love seeing cars get towed because they got garages to park their cars in right Cars what are you implying that they would own a car that you know. They hide the car while they take lift or goober around. I get it but they have a garage with a car in it for the suv that they used to drive to marin and or go skiing whatever they do. But they don't have a car with two hundred fifty four thousand miles for six thousand miles on it. So to close the loop on the the the great towing of the bob mobile epoch There was one file parties needed to be route. Yes that is the party that was re in food bank. People who you know have invaded San francisco san francisco can't figure out how to give. Its own food away. So the marin food bank is responsible for the The the the program that shuts down greenwich street outside Bob show headquarters every Every thursday and has for the past year mean. It's you know it's it's it's worthwhile what they're doing of course when they feed two thousand twenty five hundred people sure It's fine but they so they Get to setup they get the basically closed down an area of This block so that the to the parking they get to close down entire city block. Shut off traffic and and And sees all the parking on that block and get people toad who are there when they show up. I might mention this block is on the other side of playground from where the bathrooms are. It's also on the other side of the playground. Where a city block his own. Shut down for a program similar to the great highway. Good old slow streets slow streets. So now they're pilot program that was started directing the pandemic real public. Mom enter anything and it's a pilot program street could have been where they put the giveaway with the logical place to put it because the bathroom is there for the people. The thousands of people have been standing in line waiting some. We must have to the bathroom. Not only that you know there's parking that the there's there's no they're not only that there's there's a pool there so there's parking that's reserved are so we'll go on so let's hear what The bob had to say to The marin foodbank people in charge here we're all interact with my car got towed list thirty four years. I have two children. Okay fill issue. These shoes a little bit intimidated by the beast well. She had food here giveaway. Dan were not arguing well but they are all right. Beer roy for my by the term poisonous thousand sixteen dollars. The of words fell eighty. Never getting my car back on four without that farm. Border tried to children that have. I couldn't go get them into. This is a probable loss of parton a big club. See all those the author now. They weren't hearing stories. Have no party preferred park people at work you. She should run for districts supervisor. Important while she lies taught we have a been going on your them on windows seven morning. Jeff i understand that so. I'm sorry i'm entitled the food stamps. Even you start. It's for thousand dollars. Code would not have gotten total. Were it not for nothing. She gets hosing. Even the mayor has been going on for here now. Not only do four that year but the rich said you're on salary so two days a week. There is no party days a week. This is a huge problem. There's guys stop. The coin is gotta stop for any even there i. I can't listen to this person. Keep saying Here's the number call call You can call during business hours on you know you know. She reminds me a lot of danny. Solder yeah well you know. They're probably she's probably going to run for supervisor. That's i said it all right But i did miss speak. Those were grandchildren. I had not children though i did. Raise a child on that block. Grandchildren so it was a A not only a week for of victory with the bob mobile but also we had a victory concerning the beast of bob so tell us about So as you'll recall the beast of bob committed an act of terrorism and destroyed. Mike gabel Couple of weeks ago and so bob paid a visit. My got my car back for the important business of the week that the car back and was able to easily on tuesday head to guitar center. Let's let's hear how that went. So here we are outside the fabulous guitar center abuses. Doing walk canton share on then us know bushes since middle dogs. We are here to replace the mic cable. Which the beast consume them from. Jealousy over just or dog ate my mic cable. It that a cable so fine Noodling of musicians there in the background stuck in an elevator talking to the dog. The dog who a can't be the first time you've seen this Doggy my homework not to kill cable. Yes very innovative dog. I have doing everybody's a critic food right. Everybody's a critic I have no idea. Not a cable guy at all route ending to the show See see how much my doggie gate his cost me today. There's warranty your your warranty. Wow awesome thank you so that. So there's victory number. Two d The mic cable destroyed by the beast of bob. is under warranty and will be replaced. gratis just as soon as they can get it in stock at guitar center is sorry senator like everybody else is having Problems with supplies and deliveries. I think this might be a good time for us to do our musical interlude for the week and This week's Musical interlude is going to come to us from A san francisco artist in exile Mr ted taylor who was a longtime San francisco musician and dj k. usf. Who is now living on an island in hawaii. Believe and ted was kind enough to provide us with this week's musical interlude. Which is a song that he wrote about a great san francisco character. The famous emperor norton Skill do kim Thank you ted. Thank you ted. And we're back and Here is the other big piece of news that happened this week. Our supervisor of district three Aaron peskine Announced that Well he put out a statement. And i believe this was on wednesday saying after serious consideration. I have decided to enter into alcohol treatment. Under the guidance of professionals i stand by my long legislative civic record but must also take full responsibility for the tenor that i have struck in my public relationships for that. I am truly sorry. I'm extremely grateful to my family colleagues staff and constituents for their understanding and support as i work through the difficult issues that i'm finally confronting. I take seriously my duties and responsibilities as a community member and public official and remain deeply committed to the issues legislative agenda that i have pursued on behalf of san francisco for two decades so we should probably give just a little disclaimer up front. Aaron is our supervisor. He's also a personal friend of yours bob for some years and You know both of us have voted for him It's as many people have said been an open secret for a that. You know he had this. I whether deserved reputation for Imbibing now and then Lice take drink but one should also note that aaron besides having a reputation for imbibing now and then has a reputation for having sharp elbows whether sober or imbibed. I don't know if that's the word and especially When advocating on issues Where he feels the His constituents an tax payers san francisco are taking. It are taking it being taken advantage of by the rich and powerful. Yeah and and you know on that note This whole thing happened in the context of a conflict that has been brewing for some months. between aaron and His fellow supervisor chi chan the they being sort of a unit together on one side of the conflict. And on the other side being Phil ginsburg the head of the san francisco recreation and parks department and the sf parks alliance. Which is a nonprofit. That is hand in glove with the Reckon parks department and does a bunch of fundraising and Provides a lot of money for San francisco parks a little background. San francisco parks alliance You know the the chair is liz farrell. Who is the wife of mark farrell Who was A supervisor from the marina district and briefly interim mayor and twenty eighteen An ex silicon valley guy ex investment banker. Sounds like a feral supervisor. Supervisor Who you know. He's he's part of the whole Marina pacific heights Conservative to moderate business interests you know close allies of you know people like our former mayor and governor gavin gavin newsom Yeah other people who are on the board of parks alliance Just for example. Brian baker. Vp of development. Who is a real estate developer with you know l. Thirty seven partners. Big realist developer in san francisco sky. Michael yarn secretary Also from the real estate development world you know now doing a silicon valley venture backed Startup that basically does software that Is automating the whole process of building multifamily housing so these guys are part of the whole. Mb marina pacific heights conservative. Wing of san francisco politics and You know that's the way they can raise so much money for For parks However this this city has been embroiled in a pay to play corruption scandal now for several years. The fbi has been investigating it. City attorney's office is investigating it It has ensnared you know People in the public works department Just a planning Permitting department Guy who got caught up in it. So there's a lot of awareness about this and something Did not smell right to connie chan in particular about the relationship between Rex park and this nonprofit and to came to a head around this project to Install the what's called the skies store which is a ferris wheel that got put into Golden gate park For one hundred fiftieth anniversary of golden gate park. It was going to be a big tourist attraction but and and you know as parks lions. Raise money for it. The contract went to this. This company sky star in saint louis and The project wound up. Losing some money for skies dr because the pandemic hit and the attendants on this This ride went way down. So there was then A big push to extend the contract beyond just this one year for one hundred fiftieth anniversary and turned it into a four year contract or contract. That would run through two thousand twenty five. And that i think is what got chan and And erin peskine looking at it and in february Visor chan issued a statement. She said instead of going directly to our city's general fund the revenue generated from skies. Star is going to a nonprofit that is still under. Fbi investigation and public corruption investigations. She's she's referring to as parks alliance which some some of its contracts have been scrutinized under this investigation this investigation that's going on looking at city corruption And supervisor chan. Is she a supervisor for district one. Which is where golden gate. Park is located and So she says it raises the question of whether this is a good government practice in whether such practices contribute to the pay to play culture among city agencies. That is why. I am calling for an investigation focusing on this agreement and as if parks alliance practices. Okay so Apparently and and it was not only japan but also erin peskine who voiced similar concerns over this agreement between reckon park and San san francisco parks alliance And this this arrangement that allows the profits that are generated from the ferris wheel to be directed to the parks alliance and Apparently this Really stuck in the craw of the The ceo of sf parks alliance Guy by the name of drew. Becker and i guess What what just really irritated him as that. Esa parks alliances in the middle of raising money for richmond. Playground a playground. That is in Supervisor chan's district and so he sent a letter to supervisor chan on march eighteenth and Here's here's one of the things that he had to say in that letter of more immediate important and concern however is that we are currently fundraising for the richmond playground. We have always enjoyed and more importantly relied upon the partnership of the district. Supervisor as we invest in playgrounds and space in our city without that leadership and support our efforts would be far more challenging. Check check this out. Please confirm in writing whether or not you would like us to continue supporting the richmond playground. If we do not hear from you we will assume that we no longer have your support and we will suspend our work until your concerns have been fully addressed. Oh well she's sober. When he threw that elbow or had he had something to drink. He and his cups early in the day he he might. He might ahead of the tenor of that really. Sounds very peskine esque except peskine isn't corrupt. It sure sounds to me. Like pay or yeah. That sounds to me like you play along. Or you're not gonna get your money for your parking in richmond. There was a great deal of controversy over. The installation of this ferris will begin with some people. Think you go to golden gate park or park like that to get away from the tourism to get away from the entertainment parks or places where within a city you can go and find some fresh air some grass. Some trees some birds where you know. You're you're not in the same thing with the tower. They built their. You want buildings. Look downtown. Plenty of big buildings. You wanna look over golden gate park. Go up in a big building and look over golden gate park so we have the tower at the museum that was put in. We have this ferris wheel which had a lot of neighborhood pushback. They didn't want to traffic problems they didn't want. They want the tourists problems. Well and the problem that that supervisor chan raises is just simply that you know. This is a contract. That's over a million dollars and you know this. This is a a tourist attraction. We shouldn't shouldn't we be spending our our reckon park money on things that benefit the residents of san francisco. Things simple things for golden gate park like public bathrooms. You know simple things for golden gate park. Like i don't know Improving the landscaping or the the mowing the lawn. Whatever it is you know. Picking up the trash Things that that that that impact the people who live in the city and use the park Oh and by the way people who have to drive to the park from neighborhoods. That aren't right next to the park So that was kind of a point that she was making and It just really bothered the the. Sf parks alliance that she would so dare as to Raise questions about their integrity. So what i really want to get to here is. Let's let's listen in to the actual board supervisors meeting that where this all went down on tuesday of last week. And let's we're going to hear from from supervisor channel a little bit but we're also going to hear Supervisor peskine and you be the judge of whether this sounds like he's slurring his words drunk here we go this line of questioning around contract and it's legitimate. It talks about you know whether he does trigger charter section. I'm a woman eight whether it will come to. The fore should eat or contract likely off objective you over. Al is with a four year extension but why is it not And it talks about the line of questioning identify that you know the flooding. The actual to parse alliance has lack of transparency and accountability. How did actually on is being spent. So i'm happy. Show that with you. But ultimately than eight talks about really. This is really a how we spent money in our court system in government especially ahead of a the conversation is how war we spending our money for. And what are we spending on. And you this case with sti- star contract and with the golden gate park one hundred fiftieth anniversary colleagues. I don't know if there is any other way to put this in a more literal way to supply that really. You have to pay to play in the park and what's happening here so i i wanted to question Pose a question to manage routines. Because i think that consistently even his apology letter he has mentioned you know that he has nothing to do with this letter. That issue by mr trump. Becker but i. This is not a question for you. Labyrinthine in owner. you know. Remind your own that you. Are you know testifying before members of the board This is a public hearing So i Forward you telling us the truth and it's very simple. Yes or no question. So and so phil ginsburg. The the head of reckon parks is at the meeting with the with the sf board of supervisors and supervisor chan is setting up the line of questioning. You know because she knows how slippery this guy is and she knows that you know. He's going to try and talk around the problem and she's she wants to just get yes or no answers from him. So let's your birth. I would love to know if you actually know of at the ladder which said by juku backer or eleven. Her was set to me supervisor. The letter the art lines view was there and ended. Ati they are. They have an independent or they made their own decisions as we are concerned. Now so that's that's aaron jumping in and saying you did not answer the question. Answer the question pushing him. Say not letting them off the hook. You did not answer the question and then connie chan the jumps in with the same comment letter. Vance that was sent to me. I knew that they were very upset about the allegations questions. Please please let super chan. That's a supervisor. Walton was president of the board of supervisors there. telling supervisor peskine to Pipe down supervisor. Peskine again telling mr ginsburg answer the question you know with what sounds to me like righteous indignation. So listen more other. They sent the letter until they senate's supervisor. I'm not sure is that is. That is obviously very guys. Not true is not true that you have told me so. And as well as the mayor chief of staff sean. Osborn has mentioned. You knew about the letter before. It was sense to me. But i think that Colleagues got you some context of what i'm about to go next and i think that this is the again how we're spending all public dollars. And who's in charge of how the public dollars is being spent in our city and Again jeremiah marriage actually knew about it from what i learned from shirt osbour- that you knew about the letter asking for sense. But you seem contradicting has statement. Now which is which now leads to trust. You have time so again. That's aaron simply. Says he's line which is true and then walton. You know telling him to be quiet chuckles and tells me it doesn't sound like walton's to upset about all this and it doesn't sound like us any reason to tell aaron that he's out of place or anything else he just tells pipe down. You'll get your chance. Yeah so let's listen. He and he giggles about because we you know. It's all like a wink. Wink nod nod. You know we know that you know. There's there's there's business going on here. That is not kosher. Filkins is line the word means. Thank you and thank you supervisor haskins. I think that's the next part of it. Is i think that the question is. How do we spend public dollars in. And when we talk about found tropic support again. Where do we go do they go to the most in need of a residents of san francisco and kind of goes back to this so now a professor chan is going to talk about a piece of business before the board on this day meeting which is A bond measure that they're voting on that will provide funding for among other things Some significant park projects And you'll hear her point that Originally this bond Was going to go toward funding a lot of things that y- questionable much of benefit. They have for the residents of the city and Some of the neediest areas of the city and Through work that that she connie chan and and supervisor peskine did They added requirements to this bond. That there'd be financing for Reckon park projects in Places like portsmith square in chinatown. Which is come notoriously rundown things that would benefit The the susan's when this which including parks on finding an park sponsored projects. When was i originally ca. Pulse was a was not Portsmouth square renovation included in the original proposal of his which again colleagues i remind you is one of the densest a dentist pop most populated neighborhood in san francisco which lacked the most one of the some of the most We space and in grainy of portsmouth square renovation michigan spur Tell me was it. Actually included into original proposal. Portsmouth where as always boo Identified as heidi's art project and contemplated to the renovated with twenty twenty per on funds and ever gains are intent intruded. Originally zillah was it was. It was actually included. Originally i'm trying to answer is no ill. There's because we know that a history has told us it was thanks to supervisor. Pasqua fewer and at chinatown community advocates. That that portsmouth square renovation was included in this also does correct through let you know matter berg. Answer please well. He's not answering any questions. I understand your basic to posits. I really not going to be basis. That also i mean the planning process took place over several years and we were told that there were different amounts of money in different possibility There's also seem to be considered portsmouth where his always in At the top of our list of a very ideas art project should be rented and it's it's now included in in what we're talking. Karate is is actually polluted in the pot of funds for recovery are jets which portsmouth Is the number one part bs hooda. Yeah so so. And i think with this what we're about approved today. Also included ten million dollars for golden gate park. is that correct There is a pot of money for golden gate park improvement. And what have what are the projects that have been you know. Initially identified does far for this purchase. Money there are a variety of ideas. It's a pot of money. Projects have yet to be specifically delineated But to renovate He's villian for which there is funding in the eastern on from a eighteen. believe We will probably have a short haul to be able to renovate it up to safety. Standards of that project requires Darussalam lakes that need to be renovated We hope to do some planning work for the golden gate park senior center Just yet to be fully identified with them. And you as one of sounds like though you. That's the first set of project you identify. Could you tell me what kind of youth any free play meeting. Anybody can just vitally for calling. You don't know he's opera. Billion is a basketball. Indoor basketball court journey is if you can tell me if there any type of free play recreation that votes in just walk in for basketball playing versus just percentage or even just on top of your head versus permitted events in emission require events in that location. He's already is used as a special event. Then you can always used for both supervisor. Girls sports jamboree that he plays. They're numerous Summer camps that take place he's billion Lots of free school last week programs sensitive unified school district uses that civility quite a bit for various events. We have three admission evening Ask all the during the summer of our program which has been around for fifty or sixty years is free admission and you get to see emerging high school and college. You're in and occasionally some professional basketball players. It's was the home of a community hub over the last month so there is a lot of programming that happens in the site through the process as a important seismic safety asset in in our earlier. Chief into that. I mean unless you can tell me right now. What is the percentage of three places like Permitted permanent advanced that location. I don't think i can tell you that. Off the top of my head. But i can tell you that between all of this elastic events that take place there and all of our youth programming That uses ours. It's home particularly during the summer. There is plenty of free activity. That takes he's our as it does router art what she's getting at here. Is this this project to renovate keyser Smells like a plan to turn keys are into a place that will will benefit business interests that wanna have permited events there whether it's permited sporting events or entertainment or whatever it might be as opposed to again using it as a place that that that benefits the community By offering free programming. Free play for kids residents that kind of thing and He is pulling out of his ass anything that he can think of. That's ever happened at keyser. That sounds like it. Was you know good for the children. And being very evasive about whether this is basically a plan to turn this into a A giveaway to business interests that will do permited events there. He can't even say that a majority of goes to free events free classes free. No he can't say any of that and It's hard to believe that he doesn't have the answers to these. And let me tell you the economy. I am possibly walk in racist city government system and that a racist parksix them and let them talk. That day was four pointing. When i stood there in going eight hard hippie hill seeing how diverse awesome and like his people do daydream gang. Smoking weed chilling and wholly peaceful in. Hang out and yet was fencing and there was coughs there were police and there were park rangers and i look up in. I was insurance at in in the chevrolet. Arthur thing and i looked down. I see people just showing and was ray sites. And i was like this looks familiar to me. I have seen this before. Except i see way more if i may colleagues a lot. More white middle class people Somewhere else but he didn't have the kind of controlling police and fencing or random. Doing exactly got vegan. After the lord's park so what she's talking about here is She's shown this article. That has a picture of dolores park which you know is filled with unb's and yuppies in white young millennial tech workers You know partying Having a great old talking weed smoking weed and having a bucknell and then avenue whatever they're in do and No cops no security nothing like that versus On four twenty which is a celebration of the freedom to to use wheat. And it's it's become a tradition in golden gate park and You know it draws people from all over the bay area a lot of people from Oakland berkeley come over and It's definitely a more diverse crowd that you'll see at Four twenty Racially diverse economically diverse and She's pointing out the heavy cop presence. That was there and you know the The chain link fences and barriers that were put up and You know that's the kind of park Equity issues that we have in the city not the same and if we have a moment of just switching that and thinking about having black and brown people the same exactly. It's an worst part. How would our city. How park system react. That's the question. I walk away with that day in thinking about very deep about what i do for living. And that's all the comments today and colleagues. I cannot thank you offering dolgin me. It's amazing to me. Thank you thank you super chance that prison logging in sorry for interrupting the. Let's mr ginsburg. Now there's a lot of respect but smirk off your face that would help. That remark drew a lot of criticism. Afterward daddy he told ginsberg the riott wiped the smirk off his face But you know. I gotta tell you. I can understand errands frustration Looking at this guy smirking face on zoom meeting While you know he just evades and lies and they have a long history ginsburg and peskine. E- eh they they Have not liked each other for a long time a long time but i do think that there was a lull in this. I think that there was a i think. I think that their relationship did mellow for a while there. That was my impression but it's my own park and rec issues. As you know here Both at washington square and joe dimaggio playground. Which are yeah ginsberg's brief Yeah and i think whatever Past resentments there were between peskine and and back in. Ginsburg were reignited by this issue of the. Because i've been. I've issues there so i certainly saw erin some help and his advice. As the who to approach these annoys issues mainly and And i i got the sense that they were on an even keel there at that at recently maybe Well listen in to you. Know comments and i one question i have is just you know. Try and honestly assist. Does he sound drunk having to use break. If you could just answer the question. Honestly and directly impose which is. Did you see the letter that mr becker sent ms chan that should have been sent to me prior to having been sit so yes or no question and the answer is supervisor that i was certainly familiar with their that. They were upset and their sentiment. Their board and their staff made the decision to send up. All right let me ask you this. So the answer. I think you just sit gets that. Would that be against mr ginsburg. General manager against rules that were i know that they were very upset. And concerned about the allegations that were raised against them in and the impact that had on their ability to raise that money. Survey that that hazards this phil azariah fund. Which is at you knew that they were going to send a letter to. I was the person who started the fight and they sent it to my colleague who was actually not even the versus started the that you're aware that they were go. Send a letter. It is that what you said ginsburg. I am aware that they were upset. That in the discussion about the the ferris wheel their organizational integrity was called into question. I am a. I am aware that if it was your moving ernie on turning a one year deal in a five year deal. So that's your fault. That's not their fault. That's your fault. Would you disagree and if so or if not please expound on that that's i listen i mean i think are a lot of different perspectives. Acknowledged that there you know that there are there have been some breakdowns between us. I am sorry for the communication breakdowns. We normally wouldn't blue while it was. It was very cleared that supervisor chan for one in have enough information and we did not do a good enough job of bringing her Adequate information about the wheel so She's redick knowledge down. But i think that's different supervisor. If you don't mind. And i know that there are different perspectives. That's different than in a policy disagreement of out the wheel to allege that san franciscans. The lines is made up of a word of thirty people. One hundred ten french fringe groups who volunteer in our arts. Who who work in our arts to advocate for arts and abroad russia's of of allegations that don't have any factual basis against them and they were upset by that than i am. I was aware of that. Yes what what allegation. What specific allegations were made. There was just simply the the comments the the chin and prescott made was just simply this this needs to be investigated and know it was that there's something about this. That is risky and unusual. And there's a riskier that There could be not enough controls in place to prevent corruption from happening. Let's create there were no there. Were no specific allegations that were made and yet these thin skinned entitled hill dwellers felt that they were so insulted by this that they needed to threaten to pull funding from this. This parks project in in chance district. The part and the parks project of course wouldn't be project that anybody could rent for their kids or anything else. i mean. this isn't like you know there. There's no advantage to any of these thirty five people. We can assume that these thirty five people All our of means of some sort. I mean i mean do. They have any common neighborhood. People on this board of thirty five people they the same people that are on the board of the opera and the symphony and you know and and these other things. Yeah i mean. It's we have to hear more. But i don't hear erin slurring. His words i here's somebody that's really angry because his colleague is being his colleagues constituents are being extorted to back off or your or your kids won't get a playground. Yeah i mean. Aren't you supposed to be righteously indignant about that. Yeah well and i think that he feels. I think that peskine feels some personal responsibility this too because apparently he was the one who was first to raise a lot of these questions and kind chan is someone who i think. He's kind of mentor. She's a new supervisor and I think he may be feels that she got caught. In the crossfire. it sh- it should have been directed at him. Let let's mention. Also the the the you know chinatowns in district. Three chinatown is the largest chinese community outside of china in the world. One of the most densely populated places in the united states and Has very little. Which is why the food giveaways in my street because there is no place in chinatown. Probably we could give away food to two thousand people. That's why is a worthy thing and you do put up with a lot from it though you don't need to have your car towed over and they don't need to be able to park their own private vehicles on the street and just this portsmouth portsmouth square is is in. China is in chinatown in is in need of some rehabilitation. I've taken my grandchildren there to play. I doubt that fills children or grandchildren as he has any. Yeah it's you know there's a lot of corners of that are dumped a lot of homeless people around the edges of it. There are a lot of really poor chinese. They're playing cribbage or whatever what checker in go go. No no they played go there dominant. What's it game. Come on marshall nauseam mahjong tiles clicking away. They're all day you know. It's one of the oldest spots in the city. portsmouth square. Yeah that's where. The vigilantes got together and decided to run all the chinese album town. Yeah so That's why connie's bringing that up also because you know it's it's all tied together here you know who's going to get this money those most in need or those in need and i love the pot of money thing i keep seeing a rainbow a little elf s at the end of it pots of money. Where do i get. My pot of money really is kind of pots of money. I mean look this clown ginsburg. He worked for gavin newsom his Decamp uses chief of staff chief of staff you know what's his background in gardening. I wanna know there's a big parks. I wonder what he does to garden. And i want to know what his background is in managing a park and why he deserves to have this position you do. He was obedient puppy. Who say 'cause he's he's right there you know still puppy along Of years later must be a nice job. Yeah let's listen to him wriggle a little bit more letter before it came out and i think that's the third time aaron has tried to ask him that question directly in the third time that has been followed by. He refuses not going to ask whether he saw the he knew about a letter is what he's trying to say. He refuses to acknowledge whether you actually saw. He refused copy uses to acknowledge about whether he knew that this letter was being made in the reason. Why is because this read. This letter is radioactive because it is a document in which The head of a of a nonprofit makes basically a pay to play Property so radioactive. That errands gotta go into rehab. That's how radioactives. I am aware that they were upset by it and that we're going to send a letter to the supervisor guests this against. I'm not smart enough. Not the same thing. I i don't i wouldn't. You're gonna. you're about to say something. So i didn't want to cut you off. Are you done phil what. Who's on their board thirty or thirty five people. I don't know all their names. And how many of them are are. How many more city employees. I know one that he employees which was that john rowers was a lot more that i i actually we work closely with them but they also as you know work with other city agencies and aren't independent organization. I don't go to their or meetings except that were presenting something special. I don't know everybody who's on there. I know there are representatives from labor on their or our arts savvy is their environmental advocates. You can see the problem that aaron is getting at when you have city employees on the board of a nonprofit that is raising money for the raising money and awarding contracts for concession stand with city money yeah for concession in You know standard concession on park land from from every probably from every on their or and or apprently they're serving hundred and ten different friends of groups in parts all processed sort of that sort we could maybe ask questions related to those two. I don. I have nothing relatives item. I support The reason that raise the issues last week is wanting to hear from this. Ginsburg is that. I believe that miss ginsberg is actually his department deeply involved in inextricably linked to this nonprofit. I see that time when we're going through a self-examination around for upturn through nonprofits And the behavior that has been exhibited by this particular Then it's remarkably arrogant. Then this gives her has full knowledge of is conduct on become hideous remarkable. I met with a supervisor. Milk this morning on a social visit. Am i said to her. That had this happen to any member of the elected individuals in this camp. The mayor might ten colleagues treasurer. The assessor I will be taking the same position. The behavior exhibited by drew becker and his bowl. Those two one supervisor that was misdirected entered a incorrect. This visor is outrageous. The fact that his were and martin fueled resin for life of and park commission. Sent us a letter saying that they were sorry about the rupture between our board. And they're nonprofit is not the answer. The answer is take sauce. Ability and responsibility means and said this four mosaic began is time for drew becker to go back to philadelphia or chicago would have this kind of conduct in our society is conduct of become it needs to end and you need to take responsibility and with that i'm having voted for the measure that i stuck up for because actually the reality is the money was not in the wrong at the beginning and the community stood up for it and is representative the community. Activator got into the bomb and now are fighting a few details over You know arts funding in this and that but Drew becker these san francisco. Nobody threatened selected official. Unless they've done something wrong and connie did nothing wrong. And i did nothing wrong. And it's totally shit are undone so You know not sure he. He uses one expletive in there but He uses it to cap off. You know what i think is a an honest and frank explanation of his his outrage at This behavior and you know and also just the frustration that he must feel that this guy is going to get away with it and to divert from this very next day or the same day. We get these allegations of drinking. So what happens then. Is that the products. The chronicle runs a newspaper story. Obediently because they the the reporters at the chronicle And the one who was the lead reporter on that story. A realtor named that name Heather knight Is engaged in the practice of access journalism. Which is how little newspapers like. The chronicle function in town like san francisco. Which is that. You are caught up in a game of competing for access to the people at the top in particular the mayor and the people who who financed the mare the people who are in the mayor's orbit and so you have a city hall reporter and columnist who In order to get access to the mayor and Those powerful people will do their bidding and and right things that they like and so they will keep coming back and giving access so we got an a a newspaper story about this meeting and about you know all of the Rumors and allegations about Errands drinking over the years and And from the chronicle did we get a real good story about the allegations of corruption. Now no did. The did this serve the purposes of diverting all attention from what actually took place at that meeting and i'd say it was a very successful diversion. Oh yeah and none of this stuff Other than people complaining about aaron forever calling them in the middle of the night. I got a text american in the middle of the night. I'd like to read it to you. Know i got one on monday. I think it was monday or sunday trying to reach him for you now. I can't pay phil. But you know. I do have a problem. I'd like to talk to you about knight. Don't have the neighborhood association behind me. In fact they're part of the problem but Actually not part of this problem part of the problem with the farmers market. But they're not probably you don't give them permission to do it but I have a text from goes to monday night. Been trying to reach aaron. And i kind of figured. It must be a way and i called. Let's see if i can find this message here here. It is here. It is and so he'd been away on vacation. I've always found there to be unbelievably unbelievably on top of responding to any of his constituents. Not just me so here it is. i also have a five g. This was really more about the five g antenna. Oh my roof this huge tower. That must succeed any limits that are here and my concern that i am my two grandchildren. The beast might get baked by the five g radiation. So you know so trying to figure out what's going on how to get it tested and i tested. I text them like. I don't know on a saturday and i wrote it was too early. I text him too early. Text eight in the morning. Oh my god. I must have been drunk. Sorry too early. Takes understand your way. Saturday on the sixth please. My concerns are time sensitive. Get back to me thanks monday. Twelve three am just got home. Tomorrow's crazy packed. What's up I mean who supervisor calls you twelve and morning. he didn't call curse at me or anything. That might have been more entertaining lake. Why did you call me at eight in the morning. You dirty this that and the other thing. No he called to see. What's the problem going to be here tomorrow. Crazy and get back. I didn't see until two or three. In the morning. I didn't get back And then next day. I sent him the stuff. I'm trying so that's the type of supervisor we have over here some response to our concerns Yeah yeah no. He knows it would be hard for people to say that he doesn't put the constituents in the community. I and the the the drinking and all of that. I mean that may be. There may be truth to that and he may have a problem with drinking. He has come out and publicly. Said that you know. Apparently he has enough of a concern about that. He wants to do something about it. And you know that's fine. Bring it out right now especially where there's not any. There's no recorded allegations of this people's complained about it but it's not like there are records anywhere t that that someone's complaint Is behavior is not no. That's that's for sure but to blow this all up the day after this hearing would seem to indicate that there's a lot being hidden there. There's a lot of powerful people that don't want this going forward. And there are a lot of people who Have a tremendous amount of pride and ego that they feel has been Threatened or at the the the their thin skin has been pierced by simply raising the question that it might be worth investigating the relationship between this one city department and this nonprofit and the same chronicle and the same reporter not locate any formal complaints made against the supervisor. Either to the clerk of the board of supervisors or to the department of human resources now. This is just a personality thing. People don't like Peskins personality because he he speaks the truth and he e Names names and he is afraid and And he's not part of the cool kids club of from has their sticky little fingers in the pot. Did the pot right. Those people so look All i can say is it worked for gavin newsom to uh to say you know I'm i. I have a drinking problem and i need to go to treatment. You know when he got caught out for cheating on his wife with his best friend has his campaign advisor. And i think the guy who's job ginsburg got right. Yeah so You know it was a great guy by the way he He was good guy it it worked for newsom to say you know. I i have a drinking problem and you know because then you you get to. You know sort of deflect all of the responsibility off of you and onto this problem that no no one can Can really criticize because it's You know it's a disease alcoholism and so You know in some ways. Maybe this will allow aaron to have a second life the way the Newsom did you know. come back. and Oh i don't think he's going to run for governor. I don't think he is either. But i don't think he wants to live in sacramento. I don't blame care but or washington. Dc or anything else. I mean his heart truly isn't san francisco and his political aspirations for the most part of a been to. You know make this better city. And he feels that he's the guy to do it and he certainly has done more than most to make this city Continue to be somewhat liberal mean and Yeah i mean he's probably coming to the end of his his political career. But you'll have you'll have a career take off for years. Doubt he's gonna wanna come back. I think even before this blew up. He's he's exhausted from sectarian terms. I mean he he might change his mind. And i don't think he wanted to come back after the first two. You know it depends on who they put in office. These the who these. They run aren't my friend. Danny what's his name starter. Solder santer Danny yeah so that that's who they're going to try put in and I would imagine if you managed to get. Maybe arnold be back who knows We'll see. But i i think that's it. I don't think he could you know they're. They're trying to prevent him from ever running for mayor their big fear that someone of errands thinking will ever get. Hold the executive branch of this City or any state or the nation. I mean yeah. It's yeah they they understand that. The executive has a lot more power than supervisor. So this is all put us you know to to smear and slander aaron as much as possible and take our eyes off the potty golden. Who's got their hands in it Any probably you know. I wouldn't doubt that he is sincere about wanting to curb is alcohol and his anger. I mean sounds like anger issues and alcohol. Issues just brings the anger to the surface and we don't always express ourselves as eloquently or is In always check our tongue. Once we've lubricated starts to wagon ways We all regret at times but that doesn't mean that he's not at all times able to serve Into to perform his duties is called him a falling down drunk or anything else. Nobody's accused of sexual harassment or anything even remotely like that. They've just said you know he gets in your face. When he's got a problem that he thinks it is affecting that you know that something's a it gets in your face when he thinks that you're taking advantage of the public trust Old phrase public trust. He feels phil has betrayed the trump public. Trust your into to the boss of the bay. San francisco's legendary. The bob schillt's what's going on pickle ball. Oh my god. Yeah so the newest outrage i've had to endure Six forty five. Am on the tennis courts. Pickle ball yeah. I don't know if you've ever heard a pickle ball game but it sounds very much like you know someone hammering a rifle report or something like that. It's very hard racket. You hit a hard ball with it and it makes a lotta noise. Apparently it's you know a covid has brought out pickle ball players. We had one or two show up spoke with them. They were nice enough. They understood immediately. Yeah this is loud and this you know. Nobody wants this around them especially early in the day. So i'm hoping to get phil's help getting rid of pickle ball on the tennis court over here You kill joy. I know i know what about just having it done at certain times. I don't think it's most anytime tennis court. it's really loud It's really loud. it's repetitive. It's what they call. Impact noise There's no getting rid of it. It goes on for a half hour. Forty five minutes It's especially inappropriate at six forty five in the morning when it's quiet out there Joe dimaggio playground is sunk in playground dense surrounded by densely occupied residential twelve weeks on four sides one sides on columbus and blocked by library. So you probably can't hear much over there. But on three sides it's nothing but people living so any amplified sound anything like pickle ball Is horrible so if you're working if you're thinking i mean you know your choices. Close your windows put in earplugs. Turn up your music. You're going to have to live with this Are you allowed to use a tennis court to play pickle ball or i mean i thought tennis courts tennis courts were many places. You're not allowed to do anything on the tasks corporate play tennis because they don't want you to damage the surface right I don't know that's true. There's no sign it's there without signing. Then you know there's nothing you can do about it. Here's a question i have for you. This might be a solution to think about. Is it possible to make a reservation on that. Tennis court is a possible to reserve a time. I don't believe so you have to go there and queue up. I don't think that tennis court works that way. Some other tennis courts. Do i know in the city. Because i know that like there are soccer courts soccer fields where you know there was. There was a famous case. A few years ago of the tech brose from dropbox who reserved a Soccer field out in the mission where local kids would come and play all the time and the they monopolize that This whole issue of you know. Being able to reserve public spaces is always controversial. But if it's possible to reserve A tennis court Wouldn't be possible for you to reserve the tennis court at the times that these pickle ball players coming and it would. I mean this is to to piccolo players that there's not that many people out there at six forty five Had they've been reasonable. I mean either way I would but you know it wouldn't be kosher either. You have to show up. You know. I'm not going to show up and play tennis at six forty five morning and there's other people out there there's three quarter so they could reserve another one just as readily i. You know. I like where you're going with this. But not my way of dealing with the my way of dealing with it is to appeal to ginsberg and park and rec Because it's just not. I mean i i'm not getting a sleep i got either. I have children. And i'm getting up with and that extra half hour or an hour means something right. Don't have the kids. And i can catch up on some sleep. so And the rest of the time it penetrates all through my apartment. Not just my bedroom. This is right under my bedroom window and i don't know ginsburg the rest of them really understand how much noise live in the cities. Really like if you don't have a home that you know of your own you can put glass in double paned glass and live in a quiet neighborhood but if you actually really live in the in the urban core on main streets i mean your sign up for a lot of noise to begin with. This is unnecessary noise. yeah this you know there's a lot there's a lot of that going on around here and people are seizing. The comments whether it's a streets sidewalks You know using playgrounds for private Classes i mean. There's lots going on here so i guess that's enough for this week. We'll to pickle ball next week because onto exhausted from listening to fill ginsburg weasel around things. So until then i bid you at do you. Thanks for listening. If you enjoyed this week's episode please. Rate review and subscribe to the bob show on itunes. Google podcasts spotify. Or wherever you get podcasts. Follow us on facebook twitter and instagram. At the bob social contact us by visiting our website. The bob show dot com where you can send an email or call the bob phone at four one five three four three five nine two four. Now here's another song by ted taylor. This is palo alto rain inclusions so it was bell wow list.

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Chinatowns beef with Boudin

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Chinatowns beef with Boudin

"Lobsters it's may i twenty twenty one on the show today. Supervisor peskine calls out the san francisco police officers association who is financing the recall of san francisco district attorney. Jessica d plus. We talk with longtime north beach poet rosemary mono and take a call from a guy who thinks he saw something. Strange in the sky above san rafael. All this and more on the bob. Show bob show. May i twenty twenty one. Happy may day this justin. I am here with the psychedelic. Sultan of san francisco himself. Thank you very much. I'll take that any day. The man with the name so nice if you say it backwards. You've said it twice the bob. Let's get right into it so Last time We were Getting together was four twenty. It was april twentieth and The board of supervisors was also getting together and it was the day that George floyd His killer was Found guilty and The san francisco board of supervisors Held a meeting and Wasted no time in taking About an hour to each go around and make a statement and You know raphael mandolin brothers. Down in tears there was you know much virtue signaling all bedia kind. I won't say anymore Nasty words but i think the most interesting thing came from Our district three supervisor. Who was the only one who Had had the the guts to name names. I'm talking of course about aaron paskhin Let's listen to what aaron had to say. But i mentioned the p. p. o. a earlier so we have a paramilitary organization that is sfp and we have a parallel organization. That is the piel way and assistant words earlier about appeal way and the fact that i hope that they are turning the page and and i do believe that they are to a certain extent and name some names i- i- name some deeply racist horrible things that have happened within this department and i'm not talking about murder but it could be tantamount to murder when an reference in furniture And insofar as the supervisor is known to name names I want to say that. The behavior of gary gelinas was toxic and poisonous to the sf. Peel away And i am hopeful that the new leadership within that organization will repudiate his behavior his bad behavior his racist behavior and really turn that page. So i wanted to actually repudiate the behavior of garrett jelena's the many many years direct and indirect head of the sfp away. And i wanted to put that on the record. Thank you mr president. Thank you colleagues. Sure indulgence now. You know what. I think is notable about that. Is you know you had all of these. Other politicians giving these politician like speeches. You know taking no risks whatsoever By condemning. The killing of george floyd but nobody really talking about the specifics of what has happened in this and The murders of black people that have happened and and several of them happened while gary gelinas was President of the san francisco police officers association and Peskine was the only one who sort of brought it. Back to san francisco and You know called out by name Someone who You know. I think has been sort of portrayed in the city as villain and Certainly doesn't have a very great record. But i thought it was notable that That was the only one who kinda had the guts to do. That is courageous. The speak out and to name names and take on the peo- a I didn't listen to the hour of virtue signaling that you're talking about And i didn't see that. Was his name mandolin. Man raphael mandolin at rafael man. Man i didn't see his Tears which. I'm sure we're sincere. If nothing else it was sad and it's tragic but crying over it isn't going to change anything especially It's not going to change anything. Naming names probably isn't going to change anything either. Because the structure of the peo- way is not going to be changed from the outside. It's gonna have to come from within. It's going to have to come from within the rank and file of the police department itself. They're going to have to decide that they've had enough that they've had enough of the race. Mongering puts out there The existence society as well as the police department The police are need to be held to a higher standard because they represent the law. Well yeah it's sort of like what we saw in the The george floyd case where The members of the minneapolis Police force the leadership hierarchy for sure. Ca- came out and spoke and testified against The killer and that's all well and good it's the rank and file that matter You know unless they're speaking out. Nothing changes the last thing. I'll say about gary delaney is just I think the the most recent thing that happened was in going back to twenty sixteen. He called it Disgusting when the board of supervisors named a day in honor of mario woods a man who was shot and killed by police and a year earlier dealing had demanded that supervisors reject a resolution and support. Black lives matter. So he wasn't divisive figure. Short police unions across the country have inflamed this but the question really is do they speak. They re the voice represent the feelings of the rank and file that they represent. I mean that's you know you don't you don't hear it george. The george floyd case there you know. His fellow officers from that precinct did not come in and testify against him or anybody else chauvin. Yeah we're talking about children talking. Yeah you know. So lieutenant came in a captain came in They spoke out. You know their political animals as much as police officers you know moved through the ranks of any police department becomes very political on the way up there Yet without being redundant it really doesn't matter much what they have to say. It only matters what the cop on. The beat has to say okay. Good moving on. Let's move on to Chesa boudin and the recall chesa. What a disaster man we are in. Its recall season in california in san francisco but Here locally it's The chesa boudin recalls. So we wanted to dig into you. Know who's behind Who's financing the campaign to recall him and You know the largest donation has actually come from Someone outside of san francisco and It's this guy. O'keefe kogo used to live in In san francisco daniel o'keefe Is a finance guy with ours and partners. He gave fifty thousand dollars You know. I i don't feel great about A wealthy person from outside the city getting involved in Something like this but That's where the largest donation has come from surprisingly when we looked at We crunch the numbers and look at where the largest amount of money is coming from within the city. And i broke this down by zip code so nine. Four one. Eight is in chinatown. Twenty-five thousand eight hundred dollars has come from china. Tennis the second largest Category when we break it down by zip code and I thought that was really interesting. Because that's the largest group within the city that has contributed to the recall chesa campaign and of course it's happening amid all of the asian hate crimes. All of the violent hate crimes that have been directed toward asians especially elderly asians not only in san francisco but in cities all around the country but I guess it's not surprising that When you have something like that happening Members of the asian community are not gonna feel great about a district attorney who is perceived as being soft on crime. Yeah it i. It's not a surprise at all. You have all these horrific attacks you have chesa bodine who is perceived as soft on crime. And i'm not sure whether he is soft on crime he certainly doesn't feel that Low level offenders should be prosecuted or put in jail There's a lot of people that would agree with that. The downside of that is what are you going to do to prevent these low level offenders from becoming much more aggressive Which is what the police were. Warned us having You know so it's sort of like wish fulfillment for them that this is happening They didn't the police. Did not want chesapeake dane as district attorney and i would say that's what's more disturbing than outside money coming in for me. Is that the police department. Wants to determine who your. Da is that that that disturbs me. That the police department and its union is putting money out to recall bodine and they put out money to prevent him from getting elected In muddy the water considerably In that i mean bodine it. The the policies voting following and progressive policies. That he's following are for the most part on tried so until you apply Leniency towards lower level. Crimes you know. We've changed the state law. So that theft under thousand dollars as a misdemeanor. Bodine hats that by saying not only. Is it a misdemeanor. But i'm not gonna charge anybody for it So where's the motivation to for the police to come to shop to you arrest. Somebody that's not going to be charged there is not With the black lives matter we have a school. Board member collins is that her name right She wants to know why black people aren't speaking up about black lives matter by asians. Speaking up about black lives matter before we get into alison luigia. Say a couple more things about chest with. We'll get into allison. But i wanted to say a lot of the money that is going to recall. Chess is also coming from three Industries in particular finance technology and real estate. Point that out. Just do okay so again. We ran the numbers on the campaign. Contributions sixty two thousand or sixty three thousand from the finance industry about thirty four thousand from the tech industry. That ten thousand from real estate news is people who are finding themselves as working in those industries David sacks big tech entrepreneur in the city gave twenty five thousand So you know. Remember that because it's notable it's notable because When you look at it in relation to who's giving to the The the friends of of jessica. They call themselves. Sat is coming from Number one industry is the arts Law lot of lot of lawyers and A lot of unemployed people unemployed people have given about six thousand six hundred dollars to the friends of jesse campaign The neighborhoods that have given most to the friends of chesa campaign or the intermission burner heights Poke russian hill haight. Ashbury the neighborhoods that have given the most to the recall. Chesa our chinatown entertainment in richmond and also eight so there you go That falls out about the way you would expect it about the way you expect. Another last notable thing about is that there is a his second group that is raising money for the recall chess campaign that will only accept contributions under one hundred dollars which happens to be the limit on cash contributions which are anonymous. So people who don't wanna be named don't want to be identified can give money that way which is which is interesting. It's interesting but i don't find that problematic. I mean they can lower the amount of money. You could contribute anonymously. I suppose if you wanted to do that. But i don't think you need to put your name on where your money's going as far as i don't think every dollar that goes to an elected of election needs to be. Don't these receipt. I mean you should be able to contribute anonymously okay. Well i think you know you're gonna make a lot of friends in the libertarian. Crypto crypto currency world. Well maybe i will make a few friends there. I can't have all my friends be like you can i i would have you know. Chesa has a number of problems that he's he's having to deal with That has led to to this I've got a number of friends downtown. That work in retail They're scared shitless. Level of aggression has increased exports actually since chess has been in office And refusing to prosecute it's also increased because the police don't want chess and office so they're trying to make him look bad as possible And it's us making it easy to do since he won't prosecute anybody no matter how many times they've been arrested for Shoplifting and that doesn't just include people that are taking less than a thousand You can there's plenty of high end shoplifters that are repeatedly just cycling in and out and they're not getting any jail time. Yeah yeah. I've one friend that that could if he wanted to name names and come on. The show could tell you somebody so on sixty thousand dollars worth of merchandise. And he's not getting prosecuted either. He's been arrested six or eight times. So and i've got a friend around the corner. Garage was broken into along with numerous other ones in the city. Apparently there was some scam where you go around breaking into garages and take bicycles and stuff like that. Nobody was getting prosecuted for that. Either and the back door to this garage lit up to her apartment. She actually yelled out the window and offered to you know. Give him milk and cookies or something. She's a nice old lady you know. So there's a number of things going on that His policies. Which actually i do support. But he's not. He hasn't come up with alternatives. To how are you going to deal with these issues. People going by their nature human nature to take advantage so these are poor people. A lot of mentally ill. A lot of them are drug addicts How else are they going to make a living. Take advantage of this the car breaking into all this stuff. i mean. this is somewhat organized. And perhaps you have to grow up in a neighborhood. Where crime is a viable profession to recognize this. These people aren't taking all this stuff and using it or selling it to somebody there fencing it. Yeah all right. let's let's go to alison collins because You brought up before that. This is somewhat related. I think absolutely it is. Well i i. Let's give the background for people who don't know alison collins. Was the platelets. Read a little what else. Let's put alison collins in her own words and how she feels about asian people. Okay and this is the same woman that wanted A woman who is african american or half black or i don't know how she defines herself. I mean i don't wanna get sued for eighty seven million dollars from miss. You prefer for quoting the woman But refuses to resign and she We're this an asian women woman or asian man speaking about black people. The way she speaks about asians there would be you know a hue and cry. That would be heard everywhere there. All right i hear you. So alison collins Was let's see. I believe was it vice president. Yes vice president of the San francisco school board and you know to give the context this is happening amid the pandemic parents are pissed off because schools are closed. And the school board. You know doesn't have a clear plan for reopening They tried to do the whole school. Renaming woke Stunt that backfired people are angry. And then somebody goes and digs up some Old twitter posts alison collins posted. Back in two thousand sixteen before she was on the board but Yeah so this is what she wrote. this was Something she posted to twitter december fourth. Two thousand sixteen. Hey twitter does anyone know about any news stories. Highlighting hate speech or bullying of asian students. Please send the my way. I'm looking to combat anti black racism in the asian community at my daughter's mostly asian american school many asian students teachers i know won't engage in critical race theory conversations unless they see how they are impacted by white supremacy. I grew up in mostly asian american schools. No this experience all too well. Many asian americas believe they benefit from the model minority. Bs in fact. Many many many asian american teachers students and parents actively promote these myths they use white supremacists thinking to assimilate and get ahead. Talk to many lowell. High school parents and you will hear praise of tiger moms and disparagement of black and brown culture. I even see it in my facebook time line with former high school peers. Their timelines are full of white and asian people no recognition. That black lives matter exists. Two weeks was Two weeks ago my mixed race black daughter heard boys teasing a latino about trump mexicans and the kkk. The boys were asian american. She spoke up when none of the other staff did. The after school. Counselor was asian. My best friend from school says she feels alone in the chinese community. She feels ostracized when she speaks. Up against anti-black. Hey where are the vocal asians. Speaking up against trump. don't asian-americans no. They are on his list as well. Do they think they won't be deported. Profiled beaten being a house in dot dot dot are in word is still being a n. Word you're still considered the help that i last part i think in particular was inflammatory. You know using the old in n word but the whole thing Is what got her in trouble. And the the school board Voted to strip her of her vice president. Position and membership on all committees and miss collins responded by suing the school board For eighty seven million dollars as exhibited at no contrition I you know. And i don't know whether she Is speaking out against the asian. Hate crimes that are happening there. I haven't heard anything from her about him. And that goes to the heart of the matter. I mean you know I was in chinatown two nights ago. Taken out to eat it Mr jus i think it is fabulous Place and i noted in the window there. There was a black lives matter. Poster and I thought of in the context of what collins is saying there There's no shortage of compassion from asians towards blacks There's you know yeah. They're two different vastly. Different cultures had vastly different experiences. Here the asian. The asian american exclusionary acts that start the eighteen eighties here in san francisco in particular and in california in particular the horrendous murders that occurred all through the building of the railroad the gold mining. Everything that you can name in san francisco against asians The japanese japanese camps is what i live and i mean it's just all of this stuff you know and how dare this woman speak out. Yeah they stripped her of her post. She refuses to resign. And is re is suing the city for eighty seven million dollars. I mean how ridiculous is that yet and there's Since you know it's gotten asked years and people have dug into Real estate records and found that appears that She may have done. She and her husband may have done and illegal. conversion on One of the There was It used to be a two unit Home that they owned. It's like a three million dollar home in russian hill and Looks like they may have illegally Converted one of the units into merged it illegally merged into a single Home and so now. There's a whole brouhaha about that And you know people are saying. This is a very privileged You know wealthy person. Who's out of touch and You know recriminations are going back and forth and You know it ties into chesa bodine. And you know the asians Concern and i don't know one asian person that's not concerned about being assaulted male female of any age. That hasn't mentioned that are friends of mine that haven't mentioned something to me about what's going on But the live here in l. a. Or wherever so it's you know it's beyond tone-deaf with this woman is Refusing to acknowledge while demanding that asians step up for black people She doesn't seem willing to step up for them. All right let's move on to The sf mta From one divisive issue to another And on this one. I am going to Be the the rancher and i am wanting to probably make some enemies go right ahead Having knowing where your rent is going and having had to digest some of your concerns about the the mta and the us's all right so the mayor marilyn breed nominated jane natoli. I hope i'm pronouncing james name correctly. Nato ally natoli natalie to the san francisco. Mta board of directors This just happened on thursday and You know what is interesting about this jane. Natalie Sat on the board of directors for the san francisco bike coalition From eighteen to twenty nine thousand nine has been a Outspoken bike advocate and This is my. This is my concern about this. I probably the most politically influential group. I would i would recognize in the city. Today would be The nba's who i also see is very closely aligned with The bicycle advocates People who described themselves. Herbalists exists and There is also. I think a strong. Overlap with the libertarian. Wing of the technology industry and with people who i will describe Generally as technocrats. I've just done a huge broad sweep of of the broad brush By putting those people all into the same group when in fact they're more like concentric circles intersect at at different points. But all of them. Broadly i think Believe greatly in Data and studies and these are all highly educated people. most of them white Also people who believe greatly in Sort of the idealism. The kind of idealism that you see a lot in the technology industry vision of the future. What could be in trying to make things better. You know all coming from you know a well intentioned place They believe in In deregulating our zoning laws you know down zoning so that we can build build build lots of new housing and They will tell you that they want to have both Affordable housing as well as market rate housing but always market rate. And you know doing that. through the free market with housing developers. Who certainly aren't Motivated to build a lot of affordable housing But the the nba will generally tell you that they believe in Not displacing people not doing things that are going to Put people who are house now. Out of their homes They don't have a lot of great answers about how to get people who are not in now into homes and how to get people who don't own homes into homes They'll talk a lot about tenant protections. They won't talk a lot about. How is it that you get people who don't want to be tenants to be homeowners The part of the vision is also Transit having transit close to Dense housing That's you know public transit. But also it's about getting rid of cars and having fewer cars having more space for Walking and bicycling and this is where the nba and the bicyclists share a vision D- again it's a little bit tone deaf when it comes to thinking about you know who is it. That relies most on cars who make their living from having cars. People who deliver things were people who Who live in cars or people who have to work multiple jobs and you know rely on a car to get from one job to another You know again. It's it's kind of the most vulnerable citizens. I find the lower class working class citizen to get left out of these visions So you have the cars. The bicycle You have the pro bicycle anti core group. You have The nbc's you have the libertarian. Technocrats and these people are you know. They're becoming rapidly. People who i think have the most influence over politics in the city and A lot of people will laugh at you. The the people in these groups will ask you when you say that because they'll talk about how you know they're always having to fight an uphill battle and You know they're they're having to always Do public relations to have people Accept them but here. We have the mayor. Appointing a bike advocate to the mta. So if someone next time someone tells you that People in city hall aren't hand in glove with the people in the In the bike lobby or in the nba world. Just you know. Think about This particular political point. Well everybody at city hall is Treads very lightly around the bicycle coalition. They're one of the largest voting blocks in the city So they wield a lot of. I think there's about seven thousand members as nerve the bicycle coalition. There's a lot of a lot. There's a lot You know there's if you're talking about building market rate housing. You're not talking about people take public transportation. Even if bart stop is right below the window. That's just doesn't happen. People have affordable housing might take public transportation if it happens to go near to where they work As you point out that's not that often people that own bicycles. I would like to know how many people in the bicycle coalition bicycle on a rainy day a cold day at night i would like to know how many of them can bicycle over a hill here. That aren't in their twenties. Or maybe thirty. Maybe forty s. But you know it's you know very privileged position to be in to be able to get around on a bicycle And you know They're not gonna take public transportation or they're going to take uber which you know or they're gonna take lift whichever's or they're going to do car share so building anything but affordable housing or changing any of these zoning laws to do anything build affordable housing near transit hubs is unacceptable And that's really the key to this whole thing it's unacceptable. Yeah it's not pill you know what do you say uphill fight. You know when you live at the top of the hill. Everything's pill and these folks live at the top of the hill They're at the top of the feeding chain and a. There's there's no sense. This market housing is unaffordable to anybody. That makes anywhere near working. Wage is somewhere around one hundred twenty five four hundred fifty thousand a year here in san francisco. The idea that you can increase. I guess the idea that you can increase the market rate housing supply enough in the city to make a meaningful dent in the price is just a fantasy i mean. I don't think that you could build An entire other forty nine square miles of san francisco and make a meaningful dent. Because you'll you'll find people from outside of the city who will want to buy real estate here. There's there's really no end to The demand for For housing here and the whole framing housing is in terms of of demand and supply is to some extent diverse perverse because If you really think that that you know housing is a human right It's something that should be largely supplied in the public sphere and I would like to see the nba put their Put their efforts into building more public housing and Not be so enamored of the free market as the this solution for our housing problems and to not see government and laws and regulation as the enemy but to see government as perhaps the means to solve housing problems. You know I think these folks you're talking about if you've never seen atlas shrug you would see them about your suggestions. You would see a big at leeann schroeck all right enough about them and who who who next who next well Since we were picking on the mayor A little bit on that last one. Let's pick on her again with her decision to make permanent the outdoor dining and music programs that began During the covid pandemic The outdoor dining program called shared spaces and the music program called jam so in march She announced legislation to make these permanent. I think she's seeing. This says a means of economic recovery that this can be some way to help the The local economy quickly recovered particularly in the hospitality. Dining nightlife sector so the The jams program in particular. I think is the part of this. That may be Problematic because that's what allows for outdoor amplified live or prerecorded music In these neighborhoods that are often close to residences and clearly London breed does not live more of these neighborhoods. I will have to find out where you need to find out whether there is you know some amplified sound underneath her bedroom window or you know that that's what we need to find out if she maybe she has double paned glass or whatever to prevent this the sound it's You know. I have to say i i. The restaurant industry has been hammered by this There's significant investment now in outdoor dining. Which some this circles back to. Mta and traffic and and everything else. There's nowhere to park now if you live in these neighborhoods nobody's talking about that The jam thing is you. You don't need amplified sound to have dinner outside. And if they persist in doing that some of us live here and we're not going to get any sleep. It's pretty straightforward even at low levels the sound travels and by the time it penetrates into your apartment. It is not music. It's just noise that's all it's just noise and it's horrible and if you open your windows on a nice night when people are going to be out in the streets having fun is going to be terrible and it's going to go on for four or six or eight hours so i would suggestive. Were going to allow these restaurants to occupy public space. Remove public parking Get real estate. At a bargain. Rate from the city. Probably far less than they're paying for their seething. Inside that one of the preconditions is no amplified sound outside any complaints about your amplified sound and it goes or you lose your permit straight ahead one complaint is all it should take gnaws is horrible and hence going to get worse if they allow you to persist so here's the sound conditions for jams. Unless otherwise conditioned by the entertainment commissions are directed the volume of outdoor amplified sound not associated with live entertainment shelby controlled so that it does not exceed ambient levels measured at a distance of fifty feet from the premises of permitted. Location what it means if you live above the the the pr the speaker you're screwed if there is a history of complaints at the location the entertainment commission will set a sound limit for live amplified entertainment activity and the permit holder will be required to adhere to that sound limit at all times during the performances if performances. I mean you've taken it to a whole other level. If you're allowing outdoor performances of amplified sound a whole other level and i. It's it's ridiculous. Operation of outdoor amplified sound equipment. She'll be no earlier than nine. Am and no later than ten pm and shall not exceed six hours per day unless otherwise conditioned by the entertainer so the mc five could come here and play for six hours. That's exactly right and they had something like that does occur. I mean around here. I mean if you live in a district where there's a restaurant district You're gonna get hammered. And and as people drank the sound goes up. And then you have to call and call and call though. I have found that the entertainment commission does come out expeditiously and They have at least in my own experience with. They've solved the problem for me. Put this city wide. Yeah i it only took you know them. Turn their nose up at a district supervisor. The local beat cop the local. Entertainment cop You know so the. The entertainment commission manages a team of inspectors ec. Sound inspectors and The director can issue a verbal warning. No v what that is citation amend conditions or revoke a permit as needed. Well the the spectres that i have Had the pleasure of meeting have been diligent and they and they do take the they do seem to understand completely. What's going on Most of these restaurant owners don't understand at all. how sound travels they. They just don't and a lot of these levels at your he'll hear out there they don't sound that bad from they don't always sound as loud as something that needs to be turned off because people don't understand how it travels it travels like it's like a leak in your house through the ceiling. Yeah you know. It's like water finds a way in. So i'm i'm this was back When they first started issuing these back in september there were thirty three permits. I'm just gonna read a few of the names. John's grill the royal cuckoo market The bar The riptide the mitochondria. That one's near me rushing hill The balboa theatre The orbit room the right spot right spot had a great Series of in fact. What will play some music by somebody. Who who who played there but but but man a great venue ads for. Yeah well they they were doing some outdoor Live music I think it was pretty quiet. But no i wouldn't have wanted to live across the street even wake news. It doesn't matter it can't be pretty quiet. how can you you know. And there's a reason why up to this point. Restaurants and commercial venues have not been allowed to mount speakers outside of their premises outside. So this is undoing. Many you know years of urban knowledge of like what works for the urban dweller and what doesn't and amplify we need these to get involved in this. The urban earnest's the yen bees are down there listening to the music. And then they go back up the hill where there are no restaurants and they don't hear thing in their double paned A windows that are you know with their climate control. The apartments all right. Let's let's move on this An issue a little bit outside of san francisco so President biden recognized What did he recognize the e. He said the word genocide in the context of the armenian holocaust armenian genocide armenian genocide the murder of one and half million Or means probably starting around nineteen fifteen or so and significant because america has just refused to even deal with other than of ronald reagan. Who at one point one point. Use the phrase the the word genocide to describe it By was very adamant in and he didn't just mention the word he repeated it twice and made it clear that there's no other way to describe this and that's very much to his credit However there's been uneven. Well i didn't know this But i have a friend who's working with documentary of family history of an assyrian iraqi and she mentioned to me I don't in the context of white even came up but When it did come up biden's Long belated use of the term genocide to describe the murder of one point. Five million armenians simply because they were armenians That there was another genocide that happened at the same time to the assyrian. Population asked a syrian. Yeah Syrians or a different I don't know whether the syrians arabs and syrians are are certainly split. You know way back in the bible you read about. The assyrians syrians were one of the earlier civilizations Out there were. Babylon is the babylonians you syrians. And they ruled for several hundred years. They also are probably the earliest christian community they were a mesopotamia in kingdom and empire of the ancient near eastern existed as a state from perhaps as early as the twenty fifth century bc. He until its collapse between six twelve and six. Oh nine nbc. Anyway going it like my friend said it. She mentioned the assyrians and that they also had suffered a genocide Their numbers. i've read it. It's close to half of the series that that live in turkey. What is now turkey and iraq and iran Were murdered and there's no mention of this in in either the british acknowledgement of the genocide ores. In fact it was scrubbed out of the report that the british had and on the sure. The morgan fall Who was the american ambassador to turkey at the time who really Did more than anybody else to alert at least united states that this was going on And did for several years I don't know whether he mentioned the assyrian. I either some reason. They're being left out of this altogether. And that's something that needs to be remedy and these be talked about I think there are six hundred. And fifty thousand syrians. I don't think anybody really knows and of them. Two or three hundred thousand were murdered and the same horrible circumstances that the armenians were so. I don't know it's i. I didn't i hadn't heard of it when she mentioned it to me. She mentioned azerbaijan. A lot of these folks. I guess we're from. What is now as a john and i looked it up and i see anything and i said well. There is a murderer. There's a massacre in baku. Ten or fifteen thousand people were killed but it's hard to tell whether it was a civil war whether it was the result of fears that the syrian population were in league with the russians Same thing with the armenians and probably a lot of were They were under the yoke of of the turk and You know they also were co religionists Their most of these The syrian were orthodox. I believe so. Yeah i just felt need to talk about it a little bit and put it out there that these folks have been forgotten And that's wrong. You know whoever And you just wonder why even the context or means talking about why these other folks who were getting massacred in the same location at the same time aren't mentioned at all or the you know from what i've read mainly these were Kurdish irregulars That were doing the dirty work for the turks. Same with the armenians. Yeah just want to put that out there and hope that somebody picks up that ball. Well now you have it from the bob. Show starting starting the the recognition. Yeah bad things. Sa- have happened to Yes people were yeah. Most of them are just small villages. And you can read about the mill villages just being leveled so that people can't come back same thing they did the armies and then they forced march them off And killed him along the way and sold off their women slaves sex slaves and sold off their children and killed all the men that they get their hands on well on that uplifting note. Let's let's actually move to something a little more uplifting. Let's get an update on the beast of bob. I'm talking about our four legged friend. Who's you may have heard clumping around. The background is currently snoozing Few feet away from us This is a two year old Will you you tells about the beast above the visa bob. He's a two year old. Rottweiler found wandering. The streets summer said woefully under weight. He has remmy that problem by becoming slightly overweight. So we are trying to bring the beast of bob down to a reasonable weight. So what does he weigh now when last he weighed one hundred twenty nine pounds down from one hundred and thirty four and a half okay He's he's lost a whole five pounds since the pod. The recall this. The bob cast has begun since the broadcast started. Since the bob kiss started he has gone and found a bag of bones. You know where hidden from them. He's gone and found his treats which he dragged over here to try and interrupt our. Bob cast here what what treats did he eat. These treats are some sort of duck product. He didn't need them. Because i have the back. I mean he had to take them away from some kinda ducked product where he couldn't get into the bag. I can't remember what they are some. You know something yen be would feed their dog ensure so these are like i mean duck. Are we talking about like Ducks get a lot of fat in them or these. Like duck fatty duck meat. Treat duck organ. Treats i mean i. Duck is a little bit of a delicacy. I it is you know. I delegate rottweiler so you've been you you make his His his his meals for them. What do you usually make for him. Well he does get some kids. But you know i will take some meat I'll take about five pounds of meat. I'll add in about a pound of organ meat to the muscle meat and about sixty percent of it and about forty percent veggies. Everything from sweet potatoes broccoli. You cook those. Yeah okay he would. He will not eat raw carrots. Raw veggies sir tasks he will eat raw meat. I'm sure now that all sounds pretty. Good you know. Now he's lost five pounds from his peak weight. How long has he been on this diet. This is well over a couple of months of trying to get it down a couple of months. You know he Because he's constantly on the lookout for food. He gets plenty of exercise. He walks six or seven miles a day. Yeah now let's you know. Full full disclosure here. Now you take him on these walks but long those walks there are a lot of stops. A lot of those stops are at eating establishments. Low people they're like to you know like like to slip him a little something and you look the other way. We're all the meatballs or buried in north speech and there are a lot of meat pulse in north beach. it's true The treats. I use training treat. So they're they're not significant and his weight issue. The meatballs might be i and then there are the grandchildren. And there's the kids that give him. God knows what you know. Whatever they eat whatever they he eats and whatever they can find to give them they give them well so he's He's not happy about the reduce the the reduce food but he he's Yeah we need to get him down to about one fifteen or so. At least that's what the various vets of all told me all right. Well we will check in periodically on the The progress on the weight. Loss of the beast of bob And other training Conundrums training conundrums for our san francisco. Listeners this is the dogtown is is the town where dogs are charged. Rule and children are an afterthought whether they're there sometimes seeing seldom heard all right With that let's go to The bob farm and Let's see if we can't Get somebody on the line here I think we have somebody calling in from san rafael Go ahead caller. You are on the bob. Show ya session pushy. Fanshawe all right. We established that san rafael california across the bay. Thank you very much and What do you got for us. I kind of thought i had this happened. That was kind of easy really perplexed Back on september thirteenth at league was to eleven right after nine. Eleven when nothing was lying and i live over here in back of all field and it has light towers looking at it right now maybe sixty feet. I was going out that night to go very bad time getting a little bit dusky. I was actually getting on nightside of dusk and Like glance up. And i see this way dole light in his red light on a structure on top of something black floating about four times the height of the lamppost over field and There's ahead mention at one time ago. I'm not real happy. Some good ones and bad ones and But i watched this thing and you could see. It was solid because as it moves to lights on top of it disappeared and It just floated over and to the stays like is adequate time for some military everything to be up in the air. You know it leaves me scratching disease a direction of which wage interpreted either. I'm going to stop you right there. Because i just want to ask you. Did you sense any kind of Erotic vibrations emanating from this craft. No yet right. No no no sound though smell new sensations at all it just floated. It was dark. And i know that they had talked about one time to the military beginning balloons again. You know that would be floating. But there was no noise propulsion news. Nothing said nothing audible. Okay well i you know the reason i ask is that w- wherever you hear about these alliens. They always seem to be very interested in the human ass. When whenever. There's an alien abduction. The aliens are always probing the butthole. It's always the but the but the but and i. I wonder whether it's Affectionate but play or it's more like a hostile rape Did you sense a sort of a a loving vibe coming from the craft or was it something more serious. I'm really kind of terrified. These things like. I say i've adapted here good ones and bad ones so i feel good much. You know so really. Have that kind of obvious. Well it. did you happen to take any photos of what you saw. And did you show them to anyone or report the incident anyone reported to york that i have with anything like that. Everybody says you. Just don't think about yeah. It is interesting how you know whenever you hear about these things. I mean what. There's like a billion phones with cameras in the world's now and no one ever seems to have a phone on anything like this happens anyway. I think long time. I've been in person. You know sixty happening there they weren't. I was really interesting thing that an incident. That happened to me when i was kid. I was hoping to contact and you know i was terrified. It on and anyway built this ufo detector at the time that was in some book where it was just basically a compass needle with a wire going to mourn. In the where. Compact to the nells. On the other side of the compass needles is fluctuation in a magnetic field would be had in my room for three weeks and when night the the each and i just went further under covers. Yeah well thank you for that. Unexplained aerial phenomena in san rafael. What do you have you ever heard about anything like that happening over there around here. Well i'm wondering if The probe I'm sor voice wondering about the pro ba- as its miranda. I wonder if this probe Peacock feathers. i mean. I've always associated marin with the peacock feather so Why the pika. I don't know. I mean it's has to do with hot tubs. You know okay. And i can see that. Yeah and Yeah i it. Sounds like one of those stories. I i wonder since His experience goes back to the sixties. Whether you know. There's any lsd involved in this visionary thing that he's out there should ask them now. Does he take psychedelics. Sec- microdosing these days like the rest of the dmv's out there. Yeah i mean If you're microdosing might not even be aware that you know but much like the The the gummy bears that they have out there with. You might eat more of these chocolate squares. That are mike. If he'd enough of the micro doses you get a regular dose right could be hungry. I mean you're out there in the middle of the night probably with no phone but yeah a chocolate bar mushrooms in it. I wonder if that could explain that one. You're like oh that's kind of good. I want another one. Yeah yeah the one. And suddenly of aliens. I mean we're were having ailing sightings all over the country now Do because of the popularity of microdosing and all the edibles now revealed it could have something to do with a you As you point out everybody's got a cell phone so why not take a picture but we are getting We are getting a lot of reports from pilots both commercial and military. That's right yeah. The military recently has been declassifying. A bunch of this stuff that all the ufo people have been asking about for years and years and I've actually taken a look at some of it and Some of actually comes with with you know video or and you look at it and you're like Well yeah i mean. There's something there. And i know what it is and we can't explain what it is that doesn't mean that it's you know extraterrestrial but you know it's just Something that we can't explain you know. I mean there's all kinds of stuff that can happen when you're up in high altitudes with you know light being refracted through era different temperatures and stuff. You know who who knows what it is but yeah it's it's hard to tell there's also Our military. I'm sure is a has a number of projects going on. That could have this. And then you have a lot of russian and chinese activity In trying to clear king and hiding sound and all this stuff. I mean and the the the government releasing this stuff i mean It certainly is a way of diverting your attention from the nuts and bolts of running a government and you know reminding healthcare providing shelter and Providing justice reform the and all other kinds of stuff that that needs to be done. Yeah it's interesting that it's out in marin. And that's that's i personally think what he described it. Sounds like a great horned owl to me could be could be all right. Thank you caller for that. All right we're back and we're here with our guest rosemary. Mono say hello rosemary. Hello everyone and Justin bobby the beast of bob is here and So rosemary is not. Bob is bob. Not pop bob and backwards so Rosemary you've lived here in north beach Do you want to say how long be impolite. No not at all. Why would it be impolite. It's in my book In the author's notes I've been here since april one thousand nine hundred eighty three. Okay longtime are. I got here just about a year and a half after that. We're lifers think so so. Rosemary is a a poet and You've published H- how many books of poetry have you published. Well i have many chap books maybe seven. But this is my first valley and i have another another volume coming out called l. Seoul okay and that that should be out next year. Hopefully will that be the same publisher. You know the this is This is a london publisher. Who all he offered to do. L. soul but. I wanted to wanted it done locally. So it's It's a foundation here in san francisco. Yeah more or less Could you tell us who they are. i better not not yet not yet okay. Where can people find your books if they want to. It city lights and beat museum okay. This'll be museum still. They're still there. But i also going to reopen if they have hours yet or what. They're going to reopen though. Walk by wondered so we We're looking to have rosemary. Read some of her poems from her book marseille this was published in two thousand nineteen two thousand nineteen by Barn caught press in london and We we made a few selections. I was hoping you could read For us Prayer to the empty paper on page. Twenty eight sir. So prayer to the empty paper. Let me write the words. I fear the most those clean lines so empty. Let me fill them with words. Pierce the air. Let me fearlessly. Say what i already know. Let me speak alone. Wait with the empty paper. Intimate words words that remember nothing more than their own intimacy stranded words unconsidered words from the un-integrate dream of three nights ago. Let me write the words. I fear the most. Not until i meet the empty paper. Can i begin to sing. Let me take grief enjoy to the airport. The empty paper may only confessor. Salam listens and awaits me. Thank you. I love that because it to me is is about the I i wanna say the ritual or the process of being empowered that creative process and there's no there's no better way dead enter it then to take a trip alone so that was inspired When i was on my way to paris and that was going to be there a couple months alone i had. I had a place for a few years in montparnasse or yeah. Yeah we're hemingway and all of his land people were there. Tell us a little about your process. And do you have a daily writing process. Or how does it work for you. Well being poet. there's You wait for piff. Anees keep a journal. that's daily keep a journal. And you get an epiphany. Write it down but You don't say. Oh it's nine o'clock i'm going to work two hours writing poetry. It doesn't work that way. Oh yeah i mean that's my mo- i'm sure other poets might might have different methods but the main thing is it's what happens when the poem comes out. I usually stick them in a drawer. I let them just state. And then i go back to them. I the time that passes and The other things that go through your mind in between the first right riding and exactly and some some lines might seem ludicrous. A month later and others universal. So when the epiphany comes to you it might come at a different time of day. Each time you get you always have to write it down or you lose it. You carry a notebook. Yeah of course yeah. You have to write it down. I went to a workshop that allen ginsberg gave a noah value ministry and It was on Poetics in meditation and That was the first Bylaw write it down. If you don't write it down. And it could be lost. Now some people use gizmos jeff town. How did meditation plays it has to do with the breath. The breath am serving your breath when you meditate and the breadth of line. The the poetic breath the breath that you take Before you speak a line the breadth of g used to speak align the breath even in line Is is meditation part of Is that something that you practice or i do. I do Do zan and how does seated. That's from the sotos and school Like the center page in laguna here in san francisco. This tantric buddhism. this is zen sotos and buddhism. Rinse i the other school. That's with cohen's. I'm sure you've heard of that. You know the sound of one hand clapping and things like that but so does and is. It's considered the school of silent illumination. And have you gotten a lot of Epiphanies for poetry june. Stop meditating. write it down. You know i'm sure it contributes in a beneficial way. Sometimes it's hard to sometimes. it's you almost. Don't want to analyze too much. How you get ideas right i. I've always been a little superstitious about that. Because i feel like if i if i analyze it too much a lose it i'll lose the The ability to have ideas come spontaneously have to be empty practice being empty. And excuse me. That's where meditation comes in. It helps you to be empty when you're empty. Then your then you then you're receptive to the epiphanies. Let's let's to another okay. We've got box store. Recreation page forty the poetic to the politic. This is a very poetic pomp and it opens with the line from a great musician. Sylvia rodriguez he says. Don't bother to buy insurance because you're already dead. No excuse me you've already died. Silvio rodriguez a warehouse full of junk. The violent parking lot in front black. Friday stampedes bundles of toilet paper. A fire trap at home. Your fossil fuel cargo under the golden gate from china to babylon box stores. Are your face useless. Freight tax dog. Food clothes cursed by slave labor. Fill the isles that reek of plastic and exhaustion excursion. Nowhere deeper down into the pit of retail captivity into the abyss of glut for the seizure expecting any day. Now i like that anka. I've lived in neighborhoods where I've always had a view of those giant freighters coming in from china stacked almost To to attach a mile up to touch the golden gate bridge with all those containers are filled with the whatever gizmos of been manufactured over. They're going to stock the shelves of warm walmart and target and sca costco. He will love casca. And yeah you look out at that And it's it's a kind of a breathtaking sight because it's so huge and it's kind of frightening also because you just you you you. You see the magnitude of the appetite and People's devotion to consuming. That's that's why. I use that Line from silvio rodrigez. Don't bother to buy insurance because you've already died. One of the great situation is lines from may sixty eight is the more you consume the less you live. I love that you know trader. Joe's is a box store. Oh sure yeah. People love it the box store a million signs urging people by junk-food dumped by eight. They're going there a lot of junk food. I feel a kinship to with the people who are manufacturing all that stuff. That's coming over there. They're on one end. The labor of the process the labor. That's that's manufacturing it. And i'm just on the other end you know consuming it and giving my labor to pay for to pay for it while they don't get paid for making it barely. They barely get paid paid enough to live family or or anything else. Then people love cosco that love trader. Joe's i mean who am i. I'm just well. They love me although forward to buy stuff and you can afford to islet good value but the so called good value urges people to buy more to buy things they don't even need you know yeah we'll pricing is just kind of an illusion. You can manipulate it. I mean you drop the price to make it look like a value and so many million more people will buy it right and you know you the people who sell at me even wind up selling more but dropping the price By they might even earn a larger profit and the end. They make more money because they've sold more product they might make less per product. But you're kutahya is more profit now. I'd you had some Involvement in the labor movement or the or the movement. No the movement in in cuba. Well i was invited Down there to read my poetry. When was a couple times. There's a longtime ago. It was in During the so-called special period is in one thousand nine ninety five in one thousand nine hundred ninety six and i went to the Fiesta del fuego. In santiago de cuba at the eastern end real caribbean hot black place. It's not havana it. It's it's to- has a totally different personality. Very interesting city. That's where fidel Launched the revolution from At a garrison called moncada. Did you visit. Yes i'm gonna cry. It's the most sacred place on earth to me. And after the cuban revolution triumphed they turned all the garrisons in. You could imagine how many there were under batista. They turned all the garrisons into schools. That impressive and how did you come to to visit there in poetry invited. I was invited probably. I don't know. I didn't ask garner of this invitation but i think what brought me to their intention. Attention was the fact that i had Translated a haitian police and his name. Is paula rock. He was a haitian his dead And one thing led to another. And i was invited of course usually when you're invited to a poetry festival there's a fee they pay your way blah blah kuba doesn't have much disposable income so everybody was there. Everybody who was there and who participated. They were there. Because they love the cuban revolution and they believe in the Political culture of cuba. So we everybody. I'm used there. They were there on their own dime as they say. Did you have an interest in the cuban revolution before going down. Yes since i was nine years old. My mother and i were sitting on the couch. And i think it was. I don't know if it was walter. Cronkite it with someone. But if some well known journalist in havana and they. The rebel army marched into havana. After crossing the whole island january eighth nineteen fifty nine and we were watching it. And i was. I was nine years old. My mother was sitting next to me. She was jubilant and she wasn't a political animal. She was jubilant because the reveler and the revolution achieved something that no one had been able to do. It was a sickening mafia place before and because of the rebel army. And all the victories it was popular victory to The gangsters packed up and left. And so that's why she was real. Happy and bobby is one of three friends. Called me with can dolences when fidel died in. You're one of them to remember. What do i do. And i knew how that would affect you because i knew if you love for fidel and for the vision and i if they were found to effect it's had on your life. Yes yes i would sleep us. I would be a totally different person. Maybe for the better let some. Why don't we for the next one. Do what the beatnik saw in north beach okay. On page ninety four rather nostalgic palm north beach was so different back in eighty three and it was already beginning to change This harks to an earlier time when they were beaten knicks here with the beatnik son north beach like an old roman road grant avenue one morning panama canal ravioli sheets of dough dry and the marble table dusted with flour dusted with life. Wine flows like roman downtown is at the other end of the country. Vistas wraparound like summer morning. Fog immigrants and bohemians the lights avellaneda the bridge to the east flanked by the bay and two of the seven hills. It's only san francisco. But we see the trevy fountain everywhere. Yeah italian imagery. In ear imagery of italy there was the panama canal ravioli and Guy who works walking jacket partners and placed the actor. Jack journey jack halton. Thank you jack. Hamilton yeah and he would stand out there in the morning sun with his apron and take a break and have a cigarette. Yeah jet colton The saw a little bit of a little bit of rome. I was very italian. It had that sensibility And at the time. When i moved here now there's like to worst to italian deli is. There were several there was florence. There was pinelli brothers. Luko lucas on chestnut still there. Okay it may be an. That's one of the mission or is there was one in the mission one on chest the one that mission i believe closed i think valencia did close. It was there for many many years. The one on Florence penelope's florence pinelli glorious glorious. We're roy was on Vejle next to ross's oh yes. Yes gloria's there were several anyhow there to ravanelli makers there's another one size panama speech as i recall it had more of an italian village. Feel yeah just with Fin the consumer point of view more bakeries. More things like that where you're worthy italian. Businesses from the immigrants were left here besides restaurants or mostly and then most of the italians. it was like some great dream to move to nevada or across the bridge to get out of the city so that was about it well at their way and communities bird urban urban roost. Where they were they wash up on the shore here and they're great dream is to get you know the north beach for example. Is there a pretty. It's not like they were living in a pit agreed and they headed view. You walk out the door of beautiful veal. Yeah yeah it's not. Like san francisco is a pit or even matter where you were in town to san francisco. But they wanted the american dream. The american dream babes type. Time was the burbs or you know. They didn't even come back to see to work a lot of them. The first place they moved down to the marina yes that's down to atherton's and they moved up to napa. They've moved to all kinds of places before nevada was all they could afford. So it's you know. They wanted to get there. They make sure when we still had it for the columbus day italian pride day they would all cross the bridge and come back into the old neighborhood and rent a table on columbus avenue many of them and they were all out of towners out of town out of towner. Italians they still come back. That freight still happens. They come back for some of the praise will. They didn't have it last year. And i think because of all the backlash of columbus and they took statute down the top of tower. Should they If i may Bobby s made it bring a poem this going to be in the new book. Oh yeah because we we. We were talking about The cuban revolution their solidarity missions in africa. And everything. you and this this period kind of fits into that. And it's my personal owed to may sixty eight. We took back the streets. The schools there were no cellphones. When paris belonged to the world. The walls were our page. Don't go to greece this summer. Stay at the sorbonne. When workers and students communed in struggle when the stars plus our vision is a natural condition the authorities were doomed from the flash point at non tear. I remember the only coalition. The only compromise was between sleep and wake when life had no space to dream. The dream was awake. The idea was alive. time was history burstein forth. We seize the time we waited. We watched the signs soon. It was spring. Our program was fast beyond time beyond the contemptible state our time in this time. We didn't speak the past imbued in it's glory. It's blood and betrayal. We arrived in witness. This time was ours. We knew who we were. Music arrived from across the sea. But we were the center inside the flame of passion and desire. We saw what could happen with our love. We heard the casbah explode. We heard the bombs in vietnam. We know we knew we were right. We may grow old but will never be old. We know how it feels. It can happen again. To love again is to love. Better thank you my pleasure that will be in the new book so you were you in paris and sixty you know i was. I was I was there in sixty nine. There was first time i. I was in europe in one thousand nine hundred sixty nine and The graffiti was still all over all over the buildings. The walls the riverbanks. I mean it was. It was still fresh. The whole spirit of may sixty eight. And did you was your fluid infringed to be able to understand the graffiti. Yes sure they kept it. Simple did did any of that graffiti Make its way into your. You're probably oh sure. It was such a fertile place La revolution news. Thank you that was good time in way you pull the court down. Yeah i consider paris my spiritual home. I love paris adore the montparnasse. Whole thing the whole city. The whole french history the french revolution them. The commune the paris commune everything about it. Where did you grow up rosemary in buffalo new york okay. You had a progressive Mom no had a traditional mother. Traditional mom afforded fidel. I mean that's in buffalo. She hated the gangsters like a lot of italians. Well meyer lansky that whole a good. Talion board myers. It was it was the playground of You know your feet down was it was. It was just before vegas. It's really not exaggerated in godfather. Partout to hyman roth number hyman roth. Of course on lansky based on lansky and lee strasbourg. that's one of my aphorisms chap book. lease strasbourg Hyman roth meyer lansky are one of the same The meyer lansky. He had a a real intimate relationship with battista suitcases of money. was all in the open to weren't even discreet about it. Many people were tortured and they struggled for years and years and years to get rid of them and they've been trying to do that in sicily for so long and finally the two judges fell. Coney borsellino who were making real headway. They were blown up in their cars on the airport. Road outside palermo. Remember that in love being. Yeah but that was a big deal. Extraordinaire extraordinary these men were saintly that turned the people around. They took to the streets and after that the mafia has been extremely weakened the murder of these two very very popular man. So the today when you go to palermo. The airport is called falcone borsellino airport. Remember the they do it crying. There in italy it's more mafia. The italian mafia is not as powerful as it once was but the because it's more global now gets more chinese mafia. Well you also have the the ad neopolitan via. They've always been there. You have collaborated and they've they've been ascended winning that and the customers and they've been ascended with the filled in the void with cillian mob was disrupted not just with the investigations in italy. Investigations in the united states. Also may not what you point out. The internationalization of crime russian russian gangsters that have come in the gangster rang. When we were in genoa. You could see it feel it marseille. I mean so many barcelona ports corsica. Yeah yeah corsica. But i'm obviously is not just your palermo. It's a beautiful city if anyone is listening to this. May you office it at one day. Guard love to draw. It's lovely have you ever been aware of any italian organized crime in north beach. The time you've lived here. Yes oh yes. Wherever you at the corner of greenwich and columbus. Before they put that ugly condo building there was a sweatshop on the ground floor and there was a corner store. There that sweatshop was Run by mafia Were the were the workers italian. No they were asian they were asian. And also some of these some of these Green green street bars Oh and other other concessions Couple of them are my favorite. So i'm not going to name names but some of them have even served prison because they weren't friendly they were. They weren't friendly witnesses to the prosecution. There's this is. It used to be a port. This town used to be a working port so of course it would have an organized crime element but then it was sold to oakland somehow. Got it because they wanted to fashion this town a tourist mecca closed down. And i'm reading this book the day of the owl which is by northwood leonardo scalia. Regina shasha is that his name. Anything french-italian i mangle english. He is italian. Wrote this book in one thousand nine hundred sixty one anticipates falconi borcelino. And all of what you just talking about. So it's kind of fascinating to read it knowing what's going down since But if the san francisco's as far as i know has never been a big mob town with mafia family. Chicago number phillies l. a. Of course they had my fear families. Sure they did. They had There's a mafia gang. So many unions dominated by the mob so many of the unions by by the italian mob. Well they didn't have like a colombo mob here of luciano. Mob mob suit mobs. I haven't read any and i haven't seen much of a history of it here old this. I know because many many many people have told me this then. Most of the italian mafia decamped to places light court. They madeira and nevada. Did you ever hear of cardi madeira. Lot of cops live there coordinators over marin nevado costs mainly live up in the lotto i understand And they decamped to anywhere. They could get out of the city. Yeah so surprised. They went to court madeira. But i just. There are certainly been gangsters san francisco. Certainly italian wants to connect and it was a port and a lot of stuff came through here. But i just haven't read or heard anecdotes of the type of bob organization. That i would be familiar with from the east coast new york and philly and now now like that nothing like that. I always understood. It was sort of you. Know talion sheer would allow that to evolve to that point. I don't. I don't know why can't speak for that. But they they had a pretty good deal here in san francisco and they weren't looking for that kind of the shakedowns that went with the mov ving. They didn't need it and they were strong enough to hear the fishermen. They weren't necessarily off from sicily all from naples or often there it just didn't have a strong foothold Certainly all of the american unions have been traded from time to time with the mobs. There's a lot of money. There they get people in. They control the pension funds. And they control You know it's a way to put rob a payroll to pay taxes. So a lot of graft he goes with a in this city. I've just been aware of the irish in the construction construction guys. Yeah they tampa real monopoly. Don't they where they do. And they're They're pretty tough about it and You don't see many latinos or Lax working on their crews. Because it's all you know they've got. They've got the pipeline of labor coming in from the pipeline. Belfast yes the care of their own. You look decidedly irish. I am your coloring idea but yeah they There's been a lot of those guys in the irish construction trades who've gotten very rich on real estate year because of course. If you get into the construction they get an inside tip and they could young. Yeah and i can say trading a little bit like dot com. Thank you comrades. Thanks for having me was truly wonderful. Time good thank. You was really special. And i'm glad we got this on on the bob show. That's it for this episode. Thank you to our guest rosemary. Mono again you can find her books. At city lights bookstore in the beat museum in san francisco and you can find the bob show on twitter facebook and instagram at the bob social or visit our website at the show dot com. Use the contact form to send us an email or leave us a voicemail at four one five three four three five nine two four. We may play voicemail on the show. If you like this episode please. 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112 - Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Celebrating 100 years

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112 - Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Celebrating 100 years

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That's why we need peas endpoint tree. The kitchen sisters. It is Monday eighteenth of March two thousand eighteen further get his trip plenty. I mean, it's a symbol the kitchen sisters present Lawrence drilling Getty. The famed poet of north beach. San Francisco, creator of city Light's publisher of the beat poets of the nineteen fifties and sixties champion of free speech. And I it writes Lawrence is celebrating his one hundred birthday this year your warning. And thank you for coming out here today on this beautiful. I we plant a tree he was short on the superintendent of the bureau of urban forestry, the San Francisco public works, and we're leaving. Introduce yourself. Andrea soliciting DPW RBIs moisture Robin soup to the landscape shop or before St John tag, win a gardener for urban through Landers supervising Arbor's for the last fifteen years. We have honored people with a signature tree Ruth Asala was an honorary Cesar Chavez, Rosa Parks in della. Irene precio- activists Portland. In the industry. We are in north beach neighborhood the historically Italian neighborhood in San Francisco not far from city lights store. Just be like. And we're honored to have. Get here for Femina Getty's first day, and the idea that a tree putting the soil into the basic nutri. There are beautiful gold. Shovels standing upright in some black church. We are honored people. Could be something. Moore's gave me fourteen years ago at city lights. We have seen many changes over the past fifty years in north beach. But miraculously the neighborhood has retained its special character was small restaurants. Cafes galleries, eccentric, businesses boutiques and a thriving writers and artists community as well as its Asian Mexican Middle Eastern and other shops and eateries city lights like to voice, its total opposition to chain retailers in our neighborhood many. Thanks introducing this excellent legislation to protect our wonderful north of each lords Furling. Getting this neighborhood would not look like this neighborhood had numerous not actively actively champion. Laurus won't sound open. Was born from the kind involved. I am loading seora Dona the titan consul-general in San Francisco, and I'm here to honor Lawrence fitting gate Diese renaissance man, he's a global spirit wear here to plan to dutiful all of tree and all of tree is the symbol of these. And was in the dialect of prejudice. Means iron and steel resilience and resistance, and I did not think of a better name for Matt was off for months -ment when rights with resilience and resistance. Now, the next piece. Or insen assistant. Gratien nineteen Nolan's. We reach unites media that he's a free thing monument annually, plus. Lawrence. Leave me never speaks about last more future. The real solution is leaving in the breads being present to everyone. We'd means who were looking for Lawrence were must week the chronicle gossipy which ablaze Oscar listen for getting one loss question. Okay. Senate over the chronicle send his Gration. What would you like to have you? You could ask for everything on your one hundred birthday. And then that he looked at me with this line. Lou amazing is and said give me back, my first friend. Oh front the sign up. Learn. Day. Oh, awesome. Industries plan on the sunny side of the street. Dad, loved son. He loved nature. God would get up in the morning and Big Sur insane. Son, son, son, disliked, it did he likes him this truly truth for the Nick? Stand the test Lawrence and city lights and the new olive tree. Our neighbors just up from our offices and studios in San Francisco. Jim Mckee our collaborator in sound designer for many years. His studio is two floors up in our building. Gym is a keeper he's been keeping the sounds and the words and chronicling Lawrence Furlan Getty for many years today were traveling to Big Sur to Lawrence's tiny cabin in a piece produced by Jim Mckee. I see the Leary future of America on the beaches of Big Sur. I wrote it in the sand. Now, the waves washed over it. Retrieval? Feeling giddy. Open. I open mind expe- canyon big. Code. When I first came to San Francisco in nineteen fifty one the only California writers, I knew were Jacqueline Williams ROY Robinson Jeffers. And especially Henry Miller who had migrated to Big Sur from Paris in the early nineteen forties. What? So it's not long before. I two headed for Big Sur after years in Paris. Paris in Miller, the rugged Big Sur country. As a consciousness of its own. Since of primeval wildest. And it's inhabitants. Specially the old time ranchers have a kind of pioneer consciousness an untamed spirit unaffected by modern civilization. So called. And in Henry Miller, there was this conscious of big series kind of unspoiled paradise. That's how it was it came to build my first cabin in Bixby canyon, some eighteen miles south of Carmel and the half a mile up from the sea. The west hotel where the west was and lost anybody home. Birt's? Can you see the birds? Is one bird that used to hear time and he's going? I haven't heard him several years. He was Swanson Thrush Swanson special. Haven't heard him. And if you use. I bought my first latte down here sight unseen from gallery dealer, upper grand avenue. We've never seen the place in the found you had to pay taxes on it. They sold it to me. I didn't know what look like I thought I was in the little sur every canyon, actually. Them concern never be built on. Never have a house on it. January bright sun. Naini hummingbirds in the willows. Suddenly flittering as an ordinary American monster four door sedan barrels up, the canyon road backfiring and farting carbon monoxide and the hummingbirds. Take flight in a flurry of fear. A cloud of them all at once humming away into deep blue air, where the sky sucks up there wing at home and in the infinite distance eats them, even as a crowd of huge defiant. Upstart crows sets up a ravening Rokkas. Call call. And screams in circles overhead and pickets the polluted air as the metal Munster power drives on up the canyon and over the horizon and the crows now to wing away on wind and are sucked up and disappear into the numerous universe. Even as any civilization in jest its own most dissident elements. Cool. That last phrase comes from river Markouzi who observed that enormous capacity of the dominant society not any civilization. But in the case of my Cousy said enormous capacity of the dominant society to ingest its own most dissident elements. He's talking about the sixties in America. Like, the rock groups were dissidence to begin with. But then they were so successful. And they got so much money. They were ingested by the system. Someone like Allen Ginsberg was never ingested by the system because he didn't become very rich. Either. Is the treasonous guy is just filthy with stars. Big dipper. You see the different take to lower stars very lowest right in star in the big difference obscured. Straight line. And I went out in the dark dawn in the morning of the world in the first morning. And so the northern cross with a slow thrust bury itself in the mountain and burn there in white fire. Huge Excalibur stuck in stone. The play of their stay. It's on the starboard quarter is the door into the other word. That's like a bowl of hills. Here you can totaling close when the stars come out. That's why after this rebel point. Wrote this. I wrote it here in Big Sur in the early eighties. Star stricken still we lie under them in dome of night as they we'll about in their revolutions forming and reforming their splendiforous phosphor fabrications. We'll right of whoever he or she are yet. Chief fabricator of the night of it of the night to set it in this cut glass diamond diagram. Up stairs in the light today. Under the burning eaves of time lamps hung out to guide far more far out voyagers than ourselves. Still antics stars. Shootout burst out Aaron rebels even there in the perfect pattern of some utopian shooting up. Tearing the silver Webb has in palm of hand the perfect plan of line of life and heart and it struck across sudden by one cataclysmic tier one cataclysmic Tare. Yet, all not asunder all not lost darkness. Oh, hell together. Still at some to center. Even now in the almost incendiary dawn, still another rebel birding. Bright strike sits match upon our night. I've seen a clear. Not clear. Far in the morning fog Lamey here. Back in the bottle party. The party for civilization our civilization as we know. Converted the White House. To their goodbye Trojan. A new party has taken. Four. Wake up a lot during the night and write down things in my reporter's notebook. The daytime painting in the night. I'm writing. See last thing I've said last night when we went to bed I put the wind back in the model. And so when I woke up this morning the first sentence of came into my head put the wind back in the bottle the party's over. What your toes? The birds slept in this morning. How to word out of them until sunup usually they're out there just before light. Tuning up sharing away to themselves about the nature of light for which there always yearning about the earth. And why it never stops turning be questions for birds to settle and tell us in single cells before breakfast. Allen doing their birds lifting. But Allen will I noticed what I was reading much. My reading style was affected by Allen Ginsberg's certain Tony gets we had such a lush voice. For instance. Among other things. Certain tone that I was able to cop from him. The Allen Ginsberg school of poetry as taught at the narrow Pence to where Ellen taught for years. It's first thought best thought is the basis of his Poetics the direct transcription of. Your sub conscious into the conscious and put down on the page without any editing or any censoring to make it more presentable to the world. Other words, most direct transcription possible from your subconscious was this is what they French surrealists were doing too. I thought best thought was a Buddhist concept. Allan. This instant was sitting by me on this bed. Just for instance, or half an instant there was next to me silent fleeting presence, but not fleeting totally there between two refs. Gone as I agree sitting next to me silent and tender tender presence never sat on bed with him. Never that close though, once he kissed my lips now here close as Addo his sweet presence, the lush voice. Silence. Not come to speak to say, Hello or goodbye. I'd see him. Again, we see each other. Once again for a moment, always fleeting if Ameral on the win loan over summarizing. I haven't known. See you again. Dear alum. All the ills. Do that without invert. He he's saying William Blake. Hoy's children are on the land from the song of innocence. But I do the auto. Rushes in the underbrush. Birds. Never let themselves seen modesty in their little bird calls and always the same notes and the same message over and over. Hello. One of the oldest. Very old Cavins in the canyon here. Tone by if fallen v my haven't seen down here in forty years. Empty? No. It had a sofa. It's like like an old miner's cabin inside. Old. I'm the only one doesn't accept this. Mustard. Plant. Good to eat. Like mustard. Here's it f. In the bar. Here's a city like symbol. Probably put here. Nineteen fifty seven barely visible now. That's good moods. Because it's so Monday brushing once you get past the last house here. All the congress is go. The way. What the story about that? Cobb it fell down some time in the sixty. From the roll off the break. That's it that when you first arrived. No. But I don't know what happened. I remember that. Well, consciousness generated in people by big thera. Henry Miller brought is what Viva and he saw it as a paradise. And when care what came to be. Is alcoholic guilt ridden. Devils came with him. He saw evil everywhere in the wilderness. Force. Thing. That was frightening was the mountain that rose up at the east end of strange Burmese like mountain with levels and moody terraces in a strange rice Patty had on top that I keep staring at with thinking heart, and I would be going mad in this canyon six. Tweet. I see the Leary future of America on the beaches of Big Sur. You wrote this poem the nineteen sixty seven. Has enough time. Elapsed has anything like that happened? Lyricism still exists in the beaches of Big Sur, always there lyricism that that exists in presence of the ocean and the sand waves in the sky, it's lyricism inherent in our world in all we have to do apprehended. With tapping Nike sixty seven. American consciousness has become. Technocratic consciousness. Def to Lear. Hi tide writing. Tied in the hair car. One fine, clear blue shining summer morning on speech. The light become a natural rightness times history. Like the sea level of consciousness rises laughing. Healed my eyes from the pulsing and retreat to a cave at the far end of the beach alone. Time before and time after no time now only like. Time turned into light pulsing coming in coming onto me. Washing over me, clear, everything how very clear and shining. There where the Air's shaking with light in adorable feeling of Kotal loneliness in portrait yet apart. Lonely in the cave with my body after the cries of the bird. Only silence remain. There's a line in my point. After the cries of birds about Chinese junks. Chinese junks show up suddenly off the coast of Big Sur. We'll they ride the breakers because really bring their women with them. Well, that's actually what happened except they didn't come. In Chinese junks came down. Steep cliffs from the highway. Hey, go back. Who's head? We're huge package gut. Tell him it's dangerous. He can lose his footing. He rolled down here. He'd be dead. I don't wanna see this. Go on back. Says that. Tender. It's a steep cliff. You know, it's like. Like. Seventy five degree angle. Sort of down this path, which is really it was really easy to walk down to where you know. We we think that this little out of hand they really should be wearing people felt report while serious injury. I don't know. Where is there too? For one. It's really long. And Secondly since this is not a national. Hard people of very upset when strangers come by the house. Yeah. Owns entire all of this circle. Here. It's homeowners associate. So their private property has its limits that the can't claim to be for common ownership of everything. And then. Insists it somebody leave your your own private land. The idea of calming ownership of land and natural resources to insist on private property. Tell somebody get off your land because that's a total contradiction of what they're always saying public. You're. Coming on the ship. Course if they're trying to sleep in my bed. That's a different matter. I gotta have a little space to breathe. Reading. And you're the handed depends wants to sleep in my. Stream streaming outside right now, you can hear it streaming like white noise. It's it's the noise white lillies of the universe. Interspersed down then would heard cries and are the birds. Making cries of ecstasy or cries of despair. We all wish to make cries ecstasy said of cries, despair, and that's why I hate political poems and eight the right political point because their cries of despair when I much rather be making cries of ecstasy. A man is essentially pleasure seeking love seeking animal. And. He's always intent on his own desires. Pursuing is XI's pursuing love. But then there's this monster loping alongside. Who every once in awhile tries to take over the scene this fascist monster, that's loping alongside crying to prevent everyone from attaining love or desire or whatever ecstasy. So you the man has to turn away from his private pursuits and give this lout. A few clouds to knock him down put him back in his place because if the fee continues to ignore this monster, the monster will take over in the whole world will become a fascist dictatorship ruled by monsters. Such as the president US government. I'm basically lyric poet political forms are just maybe ten percent of my total poetic output every once in a while I have to turn away from the pursuit of of lyric too. Right. Some awful political blast. Political poems are but some passing situation which ensures the poet that he won't be. Remembered many years later because no one will remember the specific political situation. He'll just be forgotten. Whereas for you rights poem about the moon. The moon is always there the moon. That can see and speak for the sun that can seem speak. There's a moon circling near like a halo ahead sinus year of celestial forces. Yes. The mood at night in deed might somehow be on such a flight reflecting as does the light great godson, and we down here relying in our courses still denying it when it's done. Somebody corner. All the. Wow. Look at all the still. Now the stars really out gallery. Turn this flashlight secrecy strike. You want to see them? Catch see? I was sitting here. One night. And. I saw this object spinning through the sky. I thought. It's. Identified. Flying object. No nisei you have. And I thought it would go away. Look like it had. Shining center. But instead it landed. It landed right? In the meadow here. Picked it up. On the porch. Stuck with? Mallett? I had hanging around. Suddenly. I don't know who is who conducted that. You have here. But they vanished. When I stuck the. So it's a complete mystery had got here. Would you call it? You wouldn't call it a gun. You would call it a. This. It was a disc full of planetary sound. The music of the spheres brought down to earth that sort. It was. And it sorta represents. Consciousness of California. Because California is still growing edge of consciousness in America. If not in the world. So many. Ideas and movements have started here, including the beats. The hippies the rock revolution. Feel more Atari. The Silicon Valley electron IX Lucien. And now political issues in the political revolution that's happening with youth movement and the bicycle coalition and the green party, it's all part of the wave of future, which is really growing edge consciousness of the west used to be coli von guard before that term became defunct is very still in the American west San Francisco still last frontier from the point of view of the European now if you read Gomez Panya pennies sees the border as north-south situation rather than east west so that the new world order, both Mexico and Annahda in as much as westward March of civilization of European simply was has reached the west coast is no further to go. Oh on the count of they run out of land. Turning southward. So that we have globalization. We're taking over Mexico. What's properly called corporate monoculture American corporate monoculture sweeping south. So that WalMart is the largest company in Mexico now. And when I was in Oaxaca last year, I met the indigenous leader who just feed McDonald's coming into Oaxaca. I think it was McDonald's. And I had lunch with him. And. I shouldn't have said it because he he hardly spoke when I had lunch with him. Silence. Perhaps he was shy. Or maybe he was Buddhist. And I finally said, well, you one. It's wonderful. You won the battle to keep out American corporate monoculture, but it's you didn't win the war and the American corporate monoculture has such dynamic. It's sweeping around the world, wiping out that the indigenous cultures as it goes everywhere. And me his nodded. You know, I was talking about. This last pike has six worse in total. And I'm able to understand the first two I to me is you cannot compare. But you cannot compare with something and I'm not able. This may be here. Do you think this is Japanese Japanese for sure it's an amazing coincidence. How these two Chinese students appeared out of nowhere climbing down to big speech as if from some parallel universe. Then we bring them up here to my little Japanese temple. And they translate appointment Chinese ideograms that some wonder left here on a board. Apart from here is the night of the sky. Sorry. This guy of the night is filled with the star of midsummer with shooting star the forest. It's like thousand homes ten thousand homes. Yes. Yes, family hopes the first character means. The sky of the night. Anyway. Yes. So the star of the midsummer is what this this summer's star. Yes, shooting the three of shooting star just miss them star. And then shooting star. Do you know who gave you this poem? No, did it come some eventually here left to left behind the give. That's that was yellow cab. Comb my Sanchar seen Leo shriek some law one. The night sky Midsummer's star shooting star. The forest and ten thousand homes cannot compare. Think there's a parallel universe running alongside of ours. I don't know. I mean is could be this parallel universe of pure evil running alongside of ours, which is trying to be good input tonic terms. So that every could quality a good instinct is countered by the evil of the parallel universe. It's the conscious is trying to overcome the evil in the sub-conscious. Sub-conscious filled with evil seems to me. So you wake up, and you had this horrible dream in your consciousness overcomes it by saying. Oh, no, no. That was absurd. I don't think even for you. Because you dream, and then you wake up invited home when that's not evil. Yeah. That's true. This is the parallel universe. Payroll university of the subconscious. Yeah. I like that Saud's one of that there is this another world right here. Think who in this better care events as Terry to while and passed on to turn. Stream water to pour on the fire. When we go to bit. Puckett, and that's actually stream water to vapor buzzing from the creek. One great bird flu around silent. Under the panoply of trees in the great rain forest. The great green trees at nightfall. He was no raven croaking nevermore. He was no Falk and turning and turning in the widening. He was no Phoenix with wings of fire. He was one huge still wild bird flying mystery questioning me and our whole world flying silently from when roost to another high up in his wild rookery where all birds were suddenly still suddenly motionless. Only flew about. Noiselessly? He's on this human in the wood of the world. Failing getty. Open open mind a collaboration with poet Laurens felling Getty sound design Jimmy Key production coordinator and recording system. Mariah Galati and project directed Eric. Autistic consultants Irene up time, and she Peter's original music composed and performed by via slob Eski, and Jim Mckee the to Chinese students wandered onto beach and into our program, can you and Fran. The programs were edited and mixed at you expert options in San Francisco and produced by pod bay area radio drama. Ding. Kitchen. Sisters percent is produced by the kitchen sisters with Nathan Dalton and brandy. We'd like to thank Carla short superintendent of bureau of urban forestry, San Francisco public works, Lawrence's assistant moral apples, Nettie San Francisco board of supervisor Aaron Peskine district three the Renzo are Tony the Italian consul general in San Francisco Alice waters, creator of shape police and the edible schoolyard project Lawrence's son, the Renzo Furlan Getty and Peter Maryvale events manager city lights bookstore. The kitchen sisters present is part of radio topa from PR X. 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