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At Liberty
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"In this very memorable two thousand sixteen byes interview you choked up when recounting the fear and the feeling of call to duty. He felt so. I'm curious knowing that there were protections already in place when nine eleven happened and knowing this feeling that you know there was an imminent threat and we had to do it. We had to do and all else went out the window. How do we never go back there. I think there has to be fooled. Transparency which there isn't yet but isn't yet all we have as as you mentioned. Is we have the executive summary cis torture program. We have you know as we say on a six thousand pages that we we don't know they should come clean up. I bet you need full transparency before you can actually make fulham laments. And then the us military had its own you know it developed. They had common roots but they they. They're torture program. There was hundreds of men. Women and children subjected to torture in iraq and afghanistan at the hands of the us. Military gantanamo bay. They're still being tortured there. So we need. We need full transparency as a start point and then we have to apologize for wrongdoing to thousands of victims of the on. us military's torture programs. And then there has to be other forms of free dress as opposed to just a policy. There has to be compensation paid for rehabilitation services. I mean really haunts me. We were able to get a modicum of justice for three individuals of that hundred nineteen will to individuals in one family who has lost their even. They haven't got full redress because go rachman body is still disappeared. The united states knows towards this and yes. They won't come clean about that. They just won't amendment apologize. So transparencies is huge. And it's just locking you know and we even have president obama. He said no. We tortured some folks. If you acknowledged that in the has to be something more than just acknowledgment and transparency. There has to be full accounting. There has to be apologies. Amendment has to be redressed and or hostility rehabilitation services for all these hunt. I mean i i. I know what damage the torture program did. Three hole horribly. Psychologically start on probably will be for the rest of their lives and they have no accident. They have no real effect of access to rehabilitation services to treatment for their psychological injuries. There's hundreds perhaps thousands of others in a similar place to them probably in worse place than them because they have been hub Some more of justice that we had sue them indication and even though mitchell and jessen had to apologize as part of the settlement it's worth knowing that they profited hugely from their cia contract. Kit how much did they make. Any one million dollars the Pace they had very lucrative consultancy agreement on they. They even formed a company later on in the development of the program but provided these services and benefited from the government. Untucked payers money onto the two hundred eighty one million dollars stephen..
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"Don't mean squaws the one of the excess refined we have this because at least we understood that the word understood that what happened to kopke prisoner but the documents revealed that day is all injustice these on Stream told her what happened to him at a member. I gain in a game that Origin on my late ankle about more than that. The hours in this world that is wide open. The artist gun was saying that his eyes were open. It was like blinking and he walls frozen to beat it. Should the real picture of the king. The riyadh of violence of those who have let will have monitored will have been involved in. It was doing a torturing without gone you see. We haven't mentioned that are three clients were three of. I think last. I heard one hundred. Nineteen people right subjected to torture. Yes one hundred. Nineteen bucks but number comes from the list in the backwards. The senate torture report. There's a list of one hundred and nineteen eighty s in them is gourock bud suleiman. I'm curious you know. Torture perkins was ended by obama in two thousand ten. And what has the government done since. Then to account i actions or make amends. I mean you've noted that we still don't have full knowledge of what happened to gourock mon. The torture report that you mentioned only the executive summary was released. They're still six thousand pages of the actual report that were still missing so what still needs to happen. And and you spoke to abide alaa mohamed suleiman. Recently what do you think still needs to happen for them. I mean they have the settlement. But what more can be done from settlement. They got an apology from mitchell. Ingestion and this was really important for them as a really important part before we settled the litigation on the eve of trial. Zimmerman of idol on muhammed ole explicitly asked for an apology on. You know that was truncated apology. Because it's ingesson's options. They can't apologize for what they did on behalf of the united states. But you know we've not been here before in terms of the twentieth anniversary of nine eleven but we have here before in terms of putting in protections reflecting in the wake of violations of human rights and civil rights in the wake of world war two the wake of the civil rights era of the wake of vietnam war and many edo including president obama have recognized or said that the us felt this imminent threat and have suggested we shouldn't second guess government officials who thought they were protecting their country and mitchell himself..
Overheard at National Geographic
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"For their existence. Maggie says that david's respect for these creatures is obvious. It's clear that he is not someone who is trying to eradicate all pests from the earth. He gets the life cycle. Just hearing you say that makes me think of silk comes from silk worms and you know we live without them I do think he probably had peers. At the time who might have had a very different view and people didn't know at that point. You know what was happening with pesticides. I'm sure as part of usda he was inundated with you know the concept of we have to make it work for the farmers but marian and david wanted to show the world. These bugs are necessary to so. Why would you think this book still matters today. Well i think it's these pictures are still what these creatures look like. you know. they haven't evolved since then and so it kind of serves its purpose to a you know a maze inspire and awe us about the natural kingdom. It's also a good reminder. That looking at things from a different perspective can really kind of change your view of them. Sometimes you need to consider it from the other perspective. I guess and that's because we humans depend on animals even insects to survive. Appoint that you'll sartori is still working to make when we save nature. We're actually saving ourselves. These species need the same intact. Life support systems that we do clean air clean water clean soil good food stable climate. They need the same things as us. So my job is to just build this thing build the ark and hopefully people will gravitate to it but time is not on our side. Joel says that an eighty years. We're on track to lose half of all species and that's including plants a really have this. Stop watch mentality. I can just hear ticking like the sixty minutes. Stop watch you know. I just hear it. Ticking i mean both on my life. I'll be fifty nine this summer and on the time we have left to try to save big tracks of habitat. This is really key. This idea can feel daunting but joel says there are things that we can do. Watch what you buy you know reduce reuse and recycle in that order. You know recycling's the last resort watch the kind of car you drive to use public transportation. How much meat do you eat. Either just in your lifestyle your consumer choices. That's really the power to change the world. Every time you break out your purser your wallet you're saying to a retailer. I like the so much. I want you to do it again. And again well you can tear the world up or maybe it can help save it. Joel still has another ten years to go about ten thousand animals. Each one of these animals whether it's a spider or verte paradise. They're all magnificent away. They're all works of art into me. The ultimate sin is to to allow anything to go to extinction even one species. And we're on the cusp to lose thousands and thousands. And i'm glad people are finally starting to notice but it's it's just that's the mission is to really get people to pay attention through repeated advertising. That's what we do. Repeated advertising on behalf of nature joel's cova dear. Put his attention on bugs and as he turns towards the next phase i asked him. What the photo arc's last portrait could be. I think that the last portrait will probably be a family naked tastefully done a man a man with a full beard to show the difference between male and female there you know and you know kinda sideways portrait of a man and woman holding a baby and with a half grandchild probably the last thing i do. Maybe by photographing a family of humans he saying. Hey we're gonna save ourselves to more after this if you'd like to see joel's photos more than eleven thousand now so be prepared to spend a little time there you can do that at joel. Sartori dot com or you can go to our website. Michio dot com. We also have a magazine feature on joel and the photo arc which you can find in our show notes and thanks to the power of the internet you can also view the entire book of monsters online too. There's a link for that in our show notes as well. Joel's also coming out with two new books next month. The first is called wonders and it features the most eye-catching animals he's photographed. The other one is book for kids and it goes through the abc's with poetry by debbie. Levy you can check out those books on chills web site. Most booksellers were national geographic books. So that's all in the show notes right there in your podcast app and if you like overheard please take a minute to rate and review us. It's a big help. Overheard at national geographic is produced by. Laura stem brian. Gutierrez jacob pinter and a lotta strauss. Our senior editor is eli chen. Our senior producer is carla wills. Who edited this episode. Our executive producer of audio is davar. 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At Liberty
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"Women's health organization and people are characterizing this case the first abortion ban case since roe v wade but there have been a number of other abortion cases one as recently as last year. Why could this one risk overturning bro. The reason people say this is the first abortion banned cases that since wrote the one thing that has been clear is that before viability before the fetus attains viability. The pregnant woman has the right to decide whether to terminate the pregnancy or not after viability. The state can prohibit abortion unless it's necessary for the health or life of the mother but before viability. The rule has always been. It is the woman's choice so the issue in all the abortion cases has been. Has the state interfered with the woman's choice by imposing onerous requirements on her or making it really hard to get to a facility or making the person you know go twice to the facility. It's it's those sorts of sort of more subtle obstacles but this is an absolute ban after fifteen weeks. You cannot get an abortion in mississippi and that's an absolute ban and the russian in the case whose weather the court should essentially reconsider the core principle of of row which is that before viability. It is the woman's choice and so the dodgers has. Mississippi is a huge case. It's also huge. Because you know it will be the first opportunity that we hear from gorsuch barrett and cavenaugh on this question. I'm curious have anti-abortion activists sort of already won a major victory. Just by the fact that the court decided to take this case. Absolutely absolutely. I mean i think they have denied certain a number of similar cases over the years. So you know. I think the concern is that once barrett came on the court they may have enough votes to seriously undermine roe versus wade. Now whether they will or not you know. I don't think we can say at this point. I think we need to do everything we can to make clear why they should not overturn or restrict drovers this way. Let's end with gun rights. What is this case in. Are there larger civil liberties concerns with this particular case. So this is a case about whether the second amendment protects the right to carry a concealed weapon in public the court has held that the second amendment protects the right to own gun in your home but they haven't yet extended that right to the right to carry a concealed weapon in public in new york. Says you know if you want to carry a concealed weapon public. You have to show us that you have a real need to do so. And then you get a license. And they're arguing that that's a unconstitutional infringement. On the right to bear arms the aclu you..
At Liberty
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"She didn't get the position she wanted on the softball team exams were coming up and she's sitting at local convenience store with her friend on the weekend and she sends out a snap chat. That says fuck school. Fuck cheer fuck softball. Fuck everything you know. Basically just expressing frustration and you know we may not have used those terms but who among us did not feel that way at some point you know during school. She sent it just her friends on snapchat designed to disappear within twenty four hours except when someone takes a screen shot of it and someone did here take a photograph of of a screen shot of it and showed it to the cheerleading coach and she was kicked off the team for a year for having done this in her parents. That's that's not right. And so they called the aclu and the pennsylvania thought. Hey you know. We'll write a demand letter. This is clearly unconstitutional. You cannot kick someone off the team simply for expressing her frustration outside of school on the weekend on her own time on her own dime Shortly the school will back off so they wrote the demand letter. The school did not back off. They sued the school. Did not back off. They got an injunction and almost immediately from the district court and she was back on the cheerleading team. The school continued to pursue the case. They appealed it to the third circuit. The school lost unanimously in. The court of appeals but still the school did not give up and they appealed to the supreme court and the question in the supreme court was should schools have the same authority to regulate kids speech outside school as they have inside school and that was the position that the schools they said luck in the internet age. There's no real difference inside and outside and we need to be able to regulate kids speech wherever it happens if it affects the school in one way or another. So what did the court rule in brandies case so. The court rejected the schools proposal. Eight to one. So this is again a decision which you saw both sides coming together. Achieving agreement with only one justice thomas saying that students don't have basically any speech rights but all the rest said no students have free speech rights and they have to have broader speech rights outside school than inside school for a variety is one is that the schools don't control students lives outside school. Parents are the ones who have responsibility over kids. When they're outside of school not schools and so for the schools to be sort of censoring their speech when they're at home or at a.
At Liberty
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"At all i think would have access to a vaccine is a racial justice issue. And it's an issue of racial justice because it's about the inequality in equity to access to health and medicine and to the resources and the technologies that would allow people to enjoy those social economic crisis right to health and minimal standard of adequate health and other things that really important to win and so when you are excluding or you are delaying this kind of access to vaccines simply because of the limited resources of a country or its geographical location which happened to be most of the global south which happened to be most people of color in the world population that. That's clearly a divide that is really based on ethnic and racial lines of people belonging to these countries are predominantly going to be lacking access to equitable a vaccine. So i think that argument is a strong one. And i think that needs to really be a wakeup call for people in the united states. The biden station is definitely getting this message and we have made it clear in our letter to station that this is a racial justice issue and ask this administration is committed to holding racial justice at home and abroad. Equitable access to vaccines should be seen as part of their efforts to promote racial justice at toleman abroad and you referenced a literature mule but can you speak more broadly to what the aclu has specifically done to support the effort to close the gap. So what we did. We sent a letter with our incre partners last month to president biden and include just for people who don't know what is in close stanford finkelstein for international network of civil liberties organizations An international network of national human rights and civil liberties organizations from fifteen countries in the global north in the global south and the united states. Aclu's a co founding member and we have Members of from literally all over the world from latin america north america africa europe asia as well as australia so really covers old continents and as such we work to promote cooperation and advancement of civil liberties and human rights at both international regional and national levels benefiting from our experiences both as legal advocacy organizations as well as linking the knowledge that we have so benefit. The people who we tried to advocate on their behalf and in this case given the pandemic we've been working a lot in the area of covid. We've done webinars around the responses to particularly around issues on incarcerations policing in protests Issues of You know how now with with access to the vaccine is another area where includes more involved to help support partner organization but also the communities in different parts of the world include was working on this issue because the partners believe that this is a global human rights issue. They are hoping that. By using the weight of the coalition they can move world leaders to action for a vivian nursing jamil and colin the moral and ethical cause is clear article three of the universe alliteration of human rights.
At Liberty
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"So the know how of putting all these pieces together is something that has been kept secret by different companies whether it's moderna or a johnson and johnson or pfizer so they were able to develop their own vaccines and yet they were keeping those secrets. And that's how they registered as a patent and they were able to to say well. The only way that you can actually get to what we're offering is that you have to always do pay us. And so they have made billions of dollars more than what the government invested. And so what that means is in order for this. Know how this technology and this recipe so to speak to be shared with other countries that don't have the same capacity and capability to develop a vaccine this has to be shared as has to be waived the patents as usually protected in order to to ensure that people are stealing those kinds of things but in this kind of very very circumstances were talk about the pandemic when you talk about the global health wearing talk about it's a transnational disease that is impacting all countries. No countries can actually protect itself without protecting everyone else. Those patents and those kinds of secrets really are the mean obstacle the bottleneck for the production in wider distribution in order to get more access to the vaccines advocates and leaders from india and south africa came together to propose a waiver to the vaccine patent called the trade related aspects of intellectual property rights or trips waiver. They presented this proposal at the world trade organization last year but have struggled to garner enough support. The you pushed the us sign onto the waiver. We are very pleased. Divided administration because of the work and advocacy and bush by many people including members of congress may organizations from around the world including the world. Health organization biden responded expressing its support for the ideal waiver. There's a lot of details to be concluded the negotiations they need to be some consensus also at the wto. That's wise now. The eyes are on and the pressure on the european union germany particular to support the waiver. Can you explain why some countries are still opposing the patent waiver proposal when covid nineteen is. You said it has taught us nothing else. It has taught us that we are deeply interconnected on a global level. Yes i mean. Part of it is really strong back by the industry pharmaceutical companies. They are the ones who are being for making it work because they are the ones are holding. Secrets are the ones that are basically pushing back and making it much more difficult for many countries to able to agree to this. I think that All kinds of economic interests involved. They're all kinds of political interest. Involved in why some countries may or may not. I think now the main challenge is really european union and having european union support the waiver particularly with germany being the most more important country with with again the acknowledgee and many of the companies are based in. Germany are really key to Make this waiver and lead to the changes that are needed at the wto so without going into too much of the details of the politics of every country..
At Liberty
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"They were all in the streets democracies right now in the streets claiming for a consideration of the problem of forty an-and equality and. They didn't really care about covid. They didn't really care because the need the hunger was greater than that fear of facing quote. So we've been in the streets for three weeks now. I'm during this protests. There's been brutal police brutality. There also being a lot of disappears. We have more than one thousand injured. We have more than twenty people that have been shut. Of course in this turmoil all the different facets of violence columbia come out so this is a situation that we're living right now. I think that the covid nineteen epidemic brought it out because there was a lot of pressure inside on asian would really contribute to let people work study produce and that the economy boost again in south africa at the moment we i in the third wave of the by especially in urban areas. That started up three weeks. Ago is fitting quite rapidly. This is nursing govender national director of the legal resources centre of south africa. He tells a similar story the first two waves we had with huge economic impact with the loss of jobs and unemployment actually sitting cuddly at around sixty percent covid nineteen pandemic has had a huge impact on our country the livelihood of people especially given the high levels of poverty in the country the roughly about under five hundred thousand at being vaccinated way below five hundred thousand and that some zero point seven percent of the population. So you can imagine. We've got a long way to go. Vivian nursing and colin are all facing extreme challenges. A vaccine shortages in india collins says there is a clear solution. The vaccines manufactured in india need to get into the arms of their own citizens instead of being shipped away to countries with the ability to pay more for the supply. India was a leading manufacturer of vaccines at the time of independence. You have great institutions which factored backseats today the sub mysterious And be suspect that is going to apple countries entities. You know groups that Have a lot of money and therefore they get priority commodities and so on not on the basis of aids not on the basis of ignace not on the basal but they get of the basis of being rich. The data supports collins assessment countries. All over the world more than seventy of them in fact received. Vaccines made india djamil decor of the us. Human rights project says the reason. This is a problem is because only certain companies have the ingredients and the blueprint to produce the vaccine leading to a bottleneck and thus a competition of wealth. The bottleneck effect is why countries are fighting for a waiver to the vaccine patent because of the government investment in pharmaceutical companies. They were able to do the research. They were able to do testing. They're able to do all the experiments that needed to be done. In order to develop a vaccine they needed to also get all the supply chain lined up in order to do that..
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"Unions as having sort of being a separate situation from other members of the workforce of the public sector workforce. Is that accurate. And what is the downside of for example for those who are like. Just get rid of the unions. They're no good. What would be the downside of that. I think the the biggest downside is you think about. The current process of collective bargaining allows a negotiation between employees and managers so getting rid of collective bargaining just puts all of the power in the hands of management. You know i. I'm not confident that police chiefs or even mayors and city councils are that we should put all of the power in their hands to determine disciplined policy for police right. I mean in a lot of places that would probably lead to even more robust protections for individual officers right so the way to address this. I think actually having a negotiation itself opens up avenues for public oversight right so the fact that the two sides have to come down than sit at the table and sign a contract that becomes public available opens up oversight. That would not actually necessarily take place if it was simply a top down process of writing in an employment policy right so that in itself the negotiation i think is inherently democratic. I think that's a good thing. But i think also what we can do is change that process to increase public oversight great so mandate that when cities and police officers gonna sit down on a negotiated contract announced when that's going to happen. They announced what the big issues that each side or taking to the table. In some cases there maybe avenues for civilian participation in the negotiations so rather than having to side negotiation have a tripartite system of negotiation where representatives of communities can actually take part in that negotiation. There's a Movement within the union movement that's known as bargaining for the public good and this has been led largely by teachers who in some ways you know. Teachers faced really similar issues where there was a lot of question about whether teachers were coming to the bargaining table with their sort of narrow economic interests. Put over those of the broader community where teachers unions blocking reforms. That would make you know maybe not benefit teachers but would benefit students and one response within the union movement has been say unions needs to come to the bargaining table with the issues of the community. Perhaps even more central than the issues of the teachers and the argument is that the interest of the teachers is actually aligned with that of students and parents and so they have actually a lot of teachers. Unions have really welcomed public oversight in their collective bargaining contracts. And you know. This is something that i'm not optimistic. That police unions are going to adopt this approach. But i think it is actually a an approach that collective bargaining law so this these are written at the state level they can mandate that they can say we need some public involvement in these negotiations and ways of trying to figure out what is community oversight can actually be integrated into the click bargaining process. I'm curious while we wait for state law to change so that the public can have more of a role in those collective bargaining negotiations. What can people do like people who are. Gas is the fact that more change hasn't happened in the wake of the protests over the summer. Where is the leela way. Where can we assert pressure. Yeah i mean. I think that one of the things that i've been working on a report about changing the collective bargaining process and this is really sort of at the state level chain these laws but one of the things that's already happened and in fact the has been engaged in this campaign..
At Liberty
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"Been ongoing effort to pass federal protections and this has become more important as there was a series of supreme court rulings in the past several years. Really constraining the rights of public sector unions and so there's been a stepped up effort to pass this kind of federal law. This law was introduced into the house last spring with overwhelming support from democrats in the house. It looked pretty clear that it was going to pass and it was introduced a few days before brianna taylor was killed after that happened. Most of the sponsors of that law withdrew their support on the grounds that this law would strengthen the ability of police unions to protect Officers from discipline so here you have a very clear example of what's actually i think a ongoing problem. Which is the fact that the rights of police officers to bargaining collectively is deeply wrapped up in the rights of all public employees to bargain collectively. And so that relationship i think is really critical to understanding. In this case. I think it's particularly important. Given the fact that for most public employees the people who are most in need of collective bargaining are low wage people of color the executive sort of groups of people communities neighborhoods who are targeted by police violence. And who are you know. Have the highest stake in controlling police violence and increasing accountability for please so on one hand. Those same communities need collective bargaining rights for public employees right. They are nurses. they're teachers they're sanitation workers at the same time you know. They don't particularly have an interesting giving police carte blanche to you know to terrorize their communities. And so this tension in figuring out. How do we protect the collective bargaining rights of public employees in general without eliminating any accountability for police officers. I think is one that people who care about the union movement. In general you know like most of those democrats who ended up withdrawing their support after the burner of brianna taylor. They need to figure out how to balance those two in some ways competing interests..
At Liberty
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"And you know the idea that the reforms really just getting in the way in gung up the process and we need to just have this leeway. And that's you know i mean i. I think that that is extremely difficult. Position to accept writer made if we if we think about you know. These are public servants right. These are people who we employed protect us and so the idea that they're saying look leave us alone and let us do. Our job is very you know. It's very deeply problematic and undemocratic on the consequences have been catastrophic. One might say exactly. I mean it allows this. I mean i think it's been a really important part of this continuation of extreme violence and murder on the part of police officers who who often. You can have no accountability for this. And there's actually been studies that police violence actually goes up among the civilian population relative to these contract negotiations in the passage of new contracts whereas the pay gains for police officers are minimal and the benefit for communities is also minimal in terms of the lowering of crime. Rates is that is that something that you also pay attention to. I mean there's this is a fairly new field of study but there's pretty good evidence that in looking there's been a number of studies that have looked at cases where either the collective bargaining rights have changed traits of police officers have gained him or one study in florida. Look set a case where where. Police officers who are employed by municipalities had collective bargaining rights but sheriff's departments so usually employed by counties did not and so this sort of set up a really good experiment. Didn't they looked at what happened. When the sheriff's actually got collective bargaining rights and you did see an increase in police violence. You saw an increase in the racial disparity and police violence. So you know this is. I think this deserves more study initial studies. But i think there's pretty good evidence. I think another you know another issue that we're confronting though is that this occurs in the context of a politicization of policing that also facilitates that sort of both the unaccountability and the sort of what in some political circles. legitimization police violence right. I mean i mean you saw that. With under the trump administration where the president was openly saying police need the right to to use violence right. And you know that is a political line that has goes back to the nineteen seventies. This sort of that remains. I think very powerful and very putin well in new york times article from last june actually said that as democrats in the house were pulling together legislation to respond to the uprisings. The leader of the police lobby was meeting with the president. And attorney general at the time bar basically in getting assurance that that wouldn't go through the senate which is sort of a shocking notion right right and i think it's impart. This is a reflection of the the broader political. Divide that you know. I think on one hand. I think there's a very strong. Political will on among mostly among liberals to address police violence among conservatives. There's not so much in in some ways. I think you see this to push back although interesting enough you know..
At Liberty
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"Some of the ones that i've been reading about also on that topic were really shocking to me and previously i had not been aware of like specifically bans on investigating misconduct. That happened more than one hundred days in the past or getting early review of camera footage around violent event or even having a sort of wait period where officers have a chance to get their stories straight and get alignment there. I think those things sort of stand out as above and beyond what a labor union would normally be doing. Can you explain a little bit more about some of those policies and also us through something that i've heard called the law enforcement officers bill of rights. Tell us a little bit about that. So yeah i mean it's true and this gets at another thing that i think you said in the opening question which is about the way in which police union contracts are often negotiated in the dark of night. There's not a lot of oversight so a lot of these provisions that have to do with sort of putting bars on looking at pass discipline cases giving police officers Access to records and things the logic that police officers come to the bargaining table. That results in those policies is that they often feel that they're unfairly targeted. That people will say we'll sort of make up complaints against them as a way of sort of retaliating against maybe an arrest or the feel sort of unfair public scrutiny of their jobs and so they feel that they need to protect themselves from sort of unfair discipline which a lot of really central part of all collective bargaining for all unions for all workers is really is the concepts of due process. That if you're charged with misconduct you have a fair procedure for defending yourself in sort of vetting. The evidence against you and speaking to your accusers in all of these things that are you know. I think pretty standard for union contracts. But you're right that with police officers. These things often go way beyond. What other unions negotiate for. What i think what a reasonable person would think of as a fair process often. What happens with police. A negotiations actually with a lot of collective bargaining for public employees. Is that cities. Hold the line on economic issues. So they're like we're coming to the table with a wage cut or not a wage increase or benefit change. Or you know and we're really gonna hold the line on those economic issues and we might give something in exchange which are often leads to these. Things are looking at it from the surface. It seems like a really unfair protection against any coun- ability rather than a sort of protection from unfair discipline..
At Liberty
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"From the aclu. This is at liberty. I'm ali kaplan your host. There were only eighteen days last year. That did not see. A police officer killed civilian in this country. George floyd brianna taylor. Walter wallace junior daniel prude and rayshard brooks were among the one thousand one hundred twenty seven people killed by police last year and we know that black people are more than three times as likely to be killed during a police encounter as their white peers a year after the murder of george floyd systemic transformative change is still desperately needed at every level of government but too often police unions and their lobbying efforts obstruc that change joining today to talk about. This is dr. William p jones a history professor at the university of minnesota and the president of the labor and working class history association whose work focuses on the relationship between race and class as well as on the history of unions and organizing in the. Us will welcome to the podcast. Thanks for him to be. You know before speaking broadly about police unions and their lobby. I wanted to begin by talking about a really specific example. That i think illustrates how powerful the police unions and their lobby are. And that is the example of brianna taylor. So here we are louisville kentucky. The police shoot eight times in her home. During a drug raid. That found no drugs at all. And the city's mayor warned in the aftermath that disciplining the responsible officers would be a drawn out process because of an agreement with the union and that proved completely true reports also claimed that the police union was negotiating a new contract behind closed doors while less. Summer's protests were happening and the contracts in the end did not respond to the accountability and transparency protesters bird demanding all summer long. Instead a provision in the contract set limits on how disciplinary records could be kept in used. So how does this example illustrate. How police unions and their lobby can be an obstacle to change. Yeah that's a great question and a great example. And i think there are a couple of things that i think are come out in this example that are important to keep in mind. One is the point that the mayor made in pointing to the drawn out process being a product of the contract the agreement with the union. A couple of things. That i think are important. Just pay attention to that one. It's an agreement with the union so it's not a contract that the union road up imposed on the city. It's a contract that the city entered into a more powerful partner. So one thing. I think we need to keep in mind is that these agreements are created through a process of collective bargaining in which both sides both parties the city and the union. Sit down and negotiate rules for employment. These have to do with you know wages and working conditions. They also have a particularly with police and public sector unions and important part of these contracts disciplined. So i think it's important to really understand the way collective bargaining works. What collective bargaining agreements are what power they have and approach this in a way that you know it addresses those problems. Know just staying on the collective bargaining point some of the provisions that you mentioned were about discipline and accountability..
Brave Women at Work
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"I was kind of hooked immediately. Because what type. How about one of many is that. It's they offer. Toes accredited by women for women really big mission as well which is to unleash. The bowed cross rates leadership one million women internationally. So i'm really proud to be off. That what they offer a little tentative too steep women say a stalled by talking to her. Before i took the autopsy. If that's okay. Because superwoman is the is the one of many hypotheses that superwoman energy off doing it oh having a great career bad mom working out every morning looking fabulous getting you know that sustainable energy and that's a very masculine energy and as much as she's been great to get us to where we are at s- it's not sustainable for us in chop so because of the impact that she's happening on our health and happiness and our relationships the using the one of many toes i offer is it kind of sustainable way for women in leadership to have the impact through drawn by reconnecting to feminine energy through the defy feminine. Archetypes and i will strong and really powerful with a rated in feminine and chain rather than masculine and. It's not that there. There isn't a place for mask shape because sometimes it's exactly what nate. What's naked but as women. It's about us. Accessing content of fly between masculine and feminine rather than being in moscow energy will time so i resonate as well liffey superwoman. It's the archetype or you said hypothesis. And i think it's because my mom was a superwoman. In really operated in that way had two jobs raised us. My father was sick when i was young. And so i saw that growing up. And so i thought that's what i needed to be and see so it works for me until it didn't and i go on burnout in that. I went through in two thousand eighteen and still recovering from it and no one kinda gave the warning sign. Everyone just like you have in your example at work where you were having abuse through that bullying situation i was. I don't wanna say bullying myself. But i was kinda berating myself with having such high expectations and no one stopped me either like the train cap going. I don't know if i would have stopped it anyway even if someone would have worn me but it took burn out to stop me in my tracks and realized that you are right and one of many is right. That the superwoman. Hypotheses you cannot you cannot keep that going forever now one hundred percents com- completely going and we talk about some of those impacts on women about how just One six couples who have difficulty. Conceiving that will kind of indicators the fact that where we're the my kind of isn't it. It's been good together where where we are but probably won't sustain us going forward absolutely so now in touched on the superwoman and that really dominance masculine energy so let's dive into the archetypes of the feminine. I'm sure everyone will be excited to hear what those other energies are. Yes yeah great. So that there were five feminine archetypes. The mother they love the queen is so serious and the warriors and what they offer as just a tentative to that masculine energy for they give us a different way being depending on kind of what we're trying to achieve situational leadership the context impact. We want to have another as well so you can draw on the different energies if the archetypes when you need them so for me to use an example. If when i'm coaching a great energy for me to being is the mother energy because she's great for bringing out the bags and other people and having the patients as well potato chain whereas if i'm needing to really get something done if i'm up against a deadline then i can use the warriors and ajay. Because she's great. For taking action and intuitively knowing what to do and the next kind of best step in that situation. So of the times has ryan uses depending on your wacky on and they bring out different things in other people tay that america would kind of independence. The power is an archetype is that you can say the word mother mice people will have an understanding of what a mother is regardless of cultural backgrounds. And that kind of thing. A mother is depressed. Depressing content of encouraging their child's tighten the first step and and how can get back cup again when it's when it's not waxed how she's kind of the fostering independent so she's really great pool letting people. How can people believe in themselves. Because she's kind of in the background supporting your whereas the clean and ajay. She's going to respond. Not because she's such a strong vision and communicating. So wow to other people that people kinda guy too high because of the vision that she has and the sorceress will inspire faith in other people because she's got a strong connection to know things will be guy. Each of them hunts that Balanced expression to them has strengths in different seconds. Senses depending on what. You're trying to try and today makes sense. And so how do you determine what archetypes women are in a second follow up. Question would be kenny. Archetypes change so. I had results when i went through my conversation with you. Can i express different archetypes at different times. So i guess how do you find them and Can they change overtime. yes yes can. One of many has probably finding toe that it's people probably used to using my pants question and things like that. It's not based on t. questionnaires designed to show you appointing time energies. You kind of have ready access to. And what energy. She probably rely on a lot and conversely and just you hardly years and oakton in the When we start to explore the challenges that the women i work with him expanding and we notice that they is under expressed the less used archetypes. That could be good for them to tap into to come the challenges experiencing whether it's in that they work with that relationship. What i say you can definitely of many works locking embodiment. So how do we access. H j day and we can. We practices through the coaching program. How do we if you think of the queen and you you kind of sit a little bit more on Your heads rights new shoulders down and you can quickly tap into the energies because of the muscle memory that we create in bodies and through the coaching program. Mulan when us each time type when she might be which might be my stressful interesting very very interesting. It sounds like just so. I'm clear that you can be a combination of the archetypes. You said to me expressed under express. So you don't have to be just the queen archetype or the warrior ass archetype. You can i mean you can have a predominant wind but it sounds like you could be a combination..
Girl At The Game
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"Like, I can't believe I'm going to be late to my first red sock. Like I never been to a Red Sox. I've been to other World Series games. I had been at the 2017 World Series the year before in in LA, but she had never been to a Red Sox World Series game. And I'm like, I can't believe I'm going to be late to this game. I got there like right at the beginning of the first inning and looking back on it. Now, sitting there for 7 and 1/2 hours in that seat off. I can't believe that I was like, so freaked out about being late to what ended up being the longest game in postseason history. I I woke up the next morning at 11:45 a.m. and I was like, I don't even know how long Happened last night. I it was like a fever dream. Yeah, we went to, they lose game through the last three and then they lost. They were down a lot in Fort Pierce, remember. So I meant three so it was a lot. Yeah, threes along when we're involved we went longer than Porcello and Priscilla was a starter my brother and I did the same thing we could do bur. And we were at the base of Chavez Ravine as like we're getting out, will walk and he's his fiancee lives in La things like it's a long walk. I was like, whoa, be fine. And like halfway up, I literally do as long as the base camp I thought I was like oh yeah like Mount Everest. I was like go on and then leave me. Your funniest thing I've ever done is left, Dodger Stadium after a Grateful Dead, like a dead and Company show. It was July 2018 and it was a hundred and seven degrees that entire weekend and I was at the khong. With my then-boyfriend and his parents. And we decided like, the Uber situation, the setup is terrible. You're never going to find your Uber, someone's going to take it and like, take it all the way to like Inglewood and then you're gonna get charged for it. So we're going to walk home and I was like, are you sure you want to walk like all the way down to Sunset like to get an Uber? You know, there's like a bazillion stoned out of their mind dead heads doing the same thing like it's not going to work. We walked three miles after a dead show and it was like, you know, midnight, it was still a hundred degrees outside, all right? Well, so we're going to we're going to wrap up cuz we took up so much of your time and we appreciate it. And I could literally talked to you guys for like, 17 hours. But truly, truly. Yes, I did. Just want to ask really quickly about the glove because I thought that was a particularly beautiful piece of work that you guys did and Robert Redford narrated it and your father wrote it..
Stay-At-Home Son
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"Twenties that That you know people retired didn't have anything else. Their longevity was relatively short. I've seen as well and as opposed to mind but you know. I don't know of anybody that spends more time. But their cottage or more times on trips fishing trips Other trips that. I do all over the place but i'm binged outweigh and then but i love having a problem to solve in the morning and other people's problems are the best helping them work through them and better and coach them and help them become better. So in a nutshell. That's exactly why work but that's part of my as low my self actualization in and Self esteem or ends were is to give something back. And i've got a pay back. You know all the people that did it for me. Yeah so seems like you're taking a lot of time off time. You actually putting into your work. Now that you're all. I probably now i i would imagine this past year like we would. We put a lot of people in like. I'm part of a compound director of a company. Now just an adviser. I used to be an owner but we put people in a two thousand hours is called a full year of work. You know fifty fifty times forty something like that. I might work Maybe three or four hundred dollars so how. I've cut back a lot. When jack that will you met me at the other station. The other station. I was out i was i work. Virtually fifteen hundred dollars a year. Because i was. I was a senior advisor to the to the head of the whole site case i would. That was more of a time job and you know you know the goals that they set for that particular utility and we achieved them all right. Yeah from my understanding. I think we outfitted a year. But i was allows only there for that year so it was interesting. So so yes this has been. It's been really cool to hear you talk about what you think and your mentality throughout your career but also how you thought about how you think Yeah kind of going into extra extra level has been something that i can speak for. Bribe's something. I haven't really considered that much. No especially with the being a student. It's almost lake. I convince myself. Oh i don't have time to to think about how. I think i just gotta get some stuff dot com. But i've never actually seen someone who's done it and it worked so well for them. Yeah it's been it's been cool so herald. That's that's all. We wanted to cover as far as content with you. But i think we'll be really good for our listeners as it would be fine if this was meta thinking again but isn't what would be the one piece of advice. The one kind of partying sought that you would leave with someone who's not necessarily in the nuclear industry but is trying to work for themselves and get into a successful career path in a similar way to to what you have done question. Thank you it such an individual thing. I you know what the best thing i. Here's one of the best piece of advice that would give people confidence and to make sure that they're happy life to if you could forget about better thinking even if you could study one thing would be to study maslow's triangle which is our hierarchy of needs. So everybody has the same five basic needs but we all have different wants bid but we all need food water safety shelter esteem right. We need social. We need a steam self actualization but everybody is different needs or wants around it so i need to make living. I wanna be a nuclear operator. And it's it's more to get in touch. Not this is a form of meta thinking actually but it's at the highest level to really say. Am i really balancing my life here. Is it all social funded play. No because it is your life. And i think that would then get you to really look at no. I'm i'm dissatisfied with this. And then you know. Apply that bid boat. Don't worry about just what you want. That's gonna make you happy and satisfy your five basic needs the wants around driven by those needs. And what's going to really make you happy. Visit the house you know. People are now people in in my family's fear their host poor they really are they got this great big and they're live so close to the edge there sweating bullets and they're not happy so i think that's it and let it drive you. Where were you should go by truly understanding yourself and then and then hanging around with good people so my kid is posted about to you know like like minded people. Don't waste time with people that aren't like that. Yeah that's awesome before we let you go. Could you just spell that for me. I really want to check it out. Matt is it maslow's triangle maslo until abraham basil psychiatrists famous Various ended maslow's triangle so m. a. s. l. o. w. Okay great and it's talking about are in. Its its way deeper than anybody even thinks when you look at it but and my big lead to talk on that sometimes matter of fact maybe to have you back for season two or something like that. Okay i'm reading. I'm not fully understanding this but Am i getting this rates. You're kind of convincing yourself of like some actor some job that you want and then some on everything you do. What kind of make that happen. Is that kind of like you'll recognize the opportunities. If you set the goal sold the best i could save remember. You know at the start of this. I said i was going to leave. At as soon as i could when i when i started you had to work to your fifty five. By the time i got there you could get fifty. But all i set a goal of i'm gonna leave. I've been in love this job at do leaving a love it but i want to go into business for myself. I had that desire and then nuts. That's it so i set the goal. I had no idea what the business would be the goal. And then i then the opera. I recognized opportunities. Yeah because of it. But i didn't worry about. It wasn't so i started in seventy two dating. I started at seventy two in the nuclear industry and it wasn't until the ninety s so eighteen years then saw my first opportunity and it was time i developed as far as i wanted to go with the career dimbleby upwards in it was move outwards so and then all of a sudden i said okay what am i gonna do. It's getting close here. Got eight years left and then the opportunities just jumped out which i described and then so so. This maslow's triangle is just a way for you to put on abor what those desires would be up. Yup i'll send you. I'll send you a picture of mind guys. When i'm finished i'll take a picture of it. S right on my wall here. It's you know people have all kinds of boards. That they put up motivate them and say where they're going and i'll take your mind on that'll deepen your insight. I'd ask you to keep it Between us though. Yeah maybe i'll. I'll make one for myself and maybe i'll put it up on our website as an example. Yeah you can make generic yup. Excellent great will herald. Thank you so much for the time. This has been really eye-opening. I was expecting to learn a lot about nuclear and i did but i learn a lot more about what are your thoughts Was which i think long term for me will be a lot more valuable in a little tricks to maybe get the next job. You had By my pleasure gentlemen.