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Fireworks believed to have led to young zebra's death at zoo
"Of an exotic animal is being blamed on fireworks. fireworks. Ah Ah young young zebra zebra board board of of the the start start of of the the covert covert 19 19 pandemic, pandemic, died died at at Noah's Noah's Ark Ark Zoo Zoo farm farm near near Bristol, Bristol, England. England. It's It's believed believed the the zebra zebra named named Hope, Hope, died died after after being scared by fireworks. This who writes on Facebook that when fireworks went off the head of a bonfire last Wednesday, hope ran into the boundary of her enclosure. The staff believes she was frightened by the banks of the fireworks, which caused her to bolt. The zoo says a postmortem report showed hopes cause of death was sudden impact is he's hoping it'll make people consider alternative celebration methods.
Zebra's death believed to be caused by fireworks
"News, A young zebra, born at the start of the Koven 19 pandemic, died at Noah's Ark Zoo farm near Bristol, England. Is who writes on Facebook that when fireworks went off ahead of a bonfire last Wednesday, hope ran into the boundary of her enclosure. The South believes she was frightened by the banks of the fireworks, which caused her
Fireworks believed to have led to young zebra's death at zoo
"Sounds that scare scare your your dog dog or or cat cat every every fourth fourth of of July July or or being being blamed blamed for for the the death death of of an an animal animal at at a a British British zoo. zoo. A A young young zebra zebra board board at at the the start start of of the the Koven Koven 19 19 pandemic pandemic died died at at Noah's Noah's Ark Ark Zoo Zoo farm near Bristol, England. It's believed the zebra named Hope died after being scared by fireworks. Those who writes on Facebook that when fireworks went off ahead of a bonfire last Wednesday. Hope ran into the boundary of her enclosure. The staff believes she was frightened by the banks of the fireworks, which caused her to bolt. The zoo says a postmortem report showed hopes cause of death was sudden impact. This who's hoping it'll make people consider alternative celebration methods. That's correspondent Matt Piper.
Oscars Best Picture Contenders Required to Meet Diversity Standards
"Since we're gonna talk about since we're going to talk about movies, this movie debuted 40 years ago. I don't not sure never won any Oscars. We can talk about a different kind of odds. And that is the odds that will be in your favor when you exhibit Perhaps the greatest comedy motion picture of all time. This is going to make it look like Raiders of the Lost Ark. This is gonna be the kind of thing that your Children because they did. I could look up to you now. I never could before. I mean, we made a lot of cheap movies for you guys that made a lot of money. But now we have spent a little more than we're supposed to. Columbia Pictures has spared no expense to make this fine science fiction comedy So they're talking about is that's Dan Ackroyd and Bill Murray talking about ghost workers that they put that out to theaters to convince them to show the movie it was. It was something they set out to particularly independent theaters saying, Hey, this is Ah, a little something you might want to consider it your little Arthouse cinema. Now you had one guy was one of the Ghostbusters was a black guy. So there okay. Winston was black. And and then one day I was Jewish. I believe Well, Rick Moranis was in the movies, but I don't think I guess later on. He was kind of an ancillary ghostbuster, the Reynolds Jewish Council's a minority. For some reason. Reason this is important is and I'm reading for The Times. New Oscar standards require best picture contenders must be inclusive to compete if you wanna win. The Oscar for best picture, and I Do You have tohave you meet need to meet certain quotas to do it, Which is the way all great art is made. Certainly we all know Novels, songs movies television shows on the best artist made with quotas. So they came up with this a couple of months ago. This is AH attempt to be more divers to be eligible for best picture of film must meet at least two standards on across four categories of diversity on screen representation. Themes and narratives. So the theme of the movie has to be inclusive of a variety of groups. And it's under representative groups, including women, People of color LGBTQ, plus people and those with cognitive or physical disabilities. You have to touch on at least some of those not only in the cast and they're talking about the main cast. Um I'll read from what it says in The New York Times those standards record, one of the least one of the lead actors were significant supporting actors is from unrepresented, underrepresented racial or ethnic group. One of the lead actors are significant supporting actor. So in that group of people that the movie is all about, you can't have if it's World War, one movie a bunch of white guys, No. No. You gotta have. I don't know, eh? A black guy funded through the trench er. At least Marriott cheap and at least 30 books. They've sent a mariachi band with clearly Mexican people to entertain the troops. Shut them up, or we're going to be bombed by the Germans. Then the mariachis district and you never see them again. Ugo. There's your Oscar bait. Joe Getty Hollywood Quota consultant from No problem I got this. You gotta touch in coming of age story sitting in Norwegian filming Fishing Village, a 16 year old boy and girl and love trying to confront their Nazi past. Let's see. Let's have the Globetrotters come to town and play an exhibition game And on one of the dates they go See the Globetrotters check. $100,000 at least 30% of all actors in secondary in minor roles air from certain underrepresented groups and the main Jenny called the Globetrotters again, and the main storyline, theme or narrative of the movie has to be centred on an under representative group to qualify for a best picture Oscar nomination, And they went through the list of a bunch of movies that might not have made it that have one. You know lots of Oscars, including 1917, the World War. In film or the Irishman that came out last year and was a piece of crap, But in very was a great movie. It was bad, but it was long. I just I just Go and find this. Absolutely amazing. Yeah, on this is from liberals. People who think art is important people who send their kids to expensive colleges to get our degrees. They want to have constraints on art. The Liberals do? Yeah. Yeah, quotas. Good luck with that. My loathing of Hollywood. Well, it could get a little more intense as it turns out, but just If if if it didn't Indicate what James Lindsay has been talking about that this is coming on hard in society as a whole. I could just roll my eyes and move on said Good, Eat yourselves. You're cannibalizing yourselves, And I think it's hilarious. But it does mean that that sort of racialist thinking where everything is broken down to your identity group. You could only get a job if you're this or you can only be fired. If you're not that, or You know, you can only move into a neighborhood. We have quotas and neighborhoods quotas that everything that's dangerous. Is there any chance that any of the older liberals because always talking about the liberals over 50 seem to have a different view of these things? Like a Rob Reiner makes a movie with like what you're talking about here, man. Just those Like, really stick his thumb in the eye of the O R. You got something, you know, three hour long Goodfellow State movie, and then then you turns out Henry Hill's wife, at the end of it says Not only am I leaving you but I'm a lesbian check. We're down here getting a Hollywood quota consultant further preceding three hours. She's been a lesbian. You just didn't know that was your biases. There you go
Appeals court gives reprieve to Uber, Lyft in California
"We're facing a deadline of midnight to change the way they classify their drivers in California under the much debated a B five law instead of switching their drivers from independent contractors to full employees, thie Services were ready to bail on the state's altogether temporary reprieve from an appeals court gives uber and lift some more time. But still there days of operating California. Well, maybe they're limited. It comes down to an ongoing, bitter fight over that A B five law, which would force over and lift to give their drivers all of of the the benefits benefits and and protections protections afforded afforded full full fledged fledged employees employees in in the the state state of of California. California. Joining Joining us us now now Bradley Bradley Tusk Tusk is is a a former. former. He's He's a a rather rather founder. founder. I I should should say say and and CEO CEO of of the the venture venture capitalist capitalist firm Tusk Ventures, he was among the very first political advisers to uber Bradley. Thanks for taking a moment to speak with us today. First of all, I want to get your reaction to this decision today just came down to allow over and lift to keep operating as usual for now. Yeah, I mean, look, it's a stay of execution and give him a little more breathing room. But you know, in reality, it's the reason why Luger and with for threatening to shut down Was more about theater and politics and trying to drive voters towards prop 22. Then it was about economics, and it really may not make much of it. I was going to say the whole mom packing my bags and going home thing. Do you think that would really go over well with people who need the service anyways and then to try and pull out of a state if you are going to do it for real? Of this state of all states, where it's your home, state and fruit released and then you lose all of these riders and drivers because they have nowhere else to turn right now. I'm not sure that would have worked in practice. Yeah, it was absolutely a gamble. But the other problem was, you know, if if you're gonna make that bet on in some ways, admired the audacity of it, But try not to do it during the pandemic, right? Ah, there were reports that you know, Ubers. Ridership down by as much as 92%. And so if the vast majority of your customers are impacted by this simply tonight, using the service these days anyway. A matchup has that much for galvanizing the impact politically. What I hear often from drivers on a typical over trip in Los Angeles is that they like the fact that they can work when they want to take some time off. Maybe come back work later tonight, work tomorrow whenever they want to. Under the new law. What I don't totally understand is how that can continue toe happen. Won't there be more strict schedules put in place, which really kind of goes against the whole problem of premise of this? You have absolutely look if if the referendum loses in the new laws fully put in place, then drivers to come employees and they become like the rest of us, which is your boss tells you where to be when to be there. What you can't do what you can do, And there are good things that come with employment like health care benefits, But at the same time, a lot of drivers, for example, are both drivers were and less cause that maximizes the revenues that they could make every day and that's going to go away right because either cos when they looked, he can't write for us an Ark a better. You have to pick and so it kind of gets to the larger question. Guys of Maybe what? We really need to just think about this thing a little differently, right? So the labor laws that either your independent contractor you're full time employees were created in the 19 thirties. And a B five. Rather than saying, You know, the world has changed quite a bit in the last 90. Years just said Hey, we're gonna make everyone Full time employees on I think you're politically. Obviously there are people who very much wanted that benefited from it. But it may not really have reflected the reality of the world We live in today, which is there are people who want both flexibility and they want benefits, and there's no reason other than a little more extra work. And you know, members in Sacramento might have to disappoint either some of their donors or campaign factors. But if you put that stuff aside, there's no reason why we can't create a third way. That gives drivers what they're really looking for. Would the company's go for some sort of modified Law, though, because there is a sense and there's a distrust of the big tech companies, and I'm sure you've heard it before saying they're just going to try and skirt it, no matter what, And that brings us to the idea that one of the arguments around it is so we're not ride Share company were this platform and that's why we have overheats, and that's what we have scooters and I don't know you could pick a judge and see who who decides that? Yes, I believe you, but there's plenty that would say. You have rideshare drivers? This is what this is you This is your bread and butter. And this is what you D'oh. The other stuff is on the side. It's a great question, right? And you could see a Cohiba way, however. I think because this issue has caused so much uncertainty for uber and for last That if they knew that they could resolve this once and for all around the entire US because while California has driven this issue, no pun intended, it's the same situation all 50 states. If they knew they could put it to bed. I suspected they probably would be Lloyd to pay into a portable benefits pool just to resolve all of this. But yeah, it's oh, come contacting on next because if what you asked him to paint for benefits The same out that would cost them to just have these drivers become employees. And then they said that the difference in the first place
Pit of Serpents
"Welcome to stuff to blow your mind. My name is Robert Land and dime Joe McCormack and I'm so excited because today we're diving the snake bit. That's right. not slashes snake pit. We're discussing before we started recording the show but this idea of a pit of snakes, the sort of a place you might want to drop a a doomed hero or a Damsel in distress that sort of thing right and I think the great place to start here is by discussing. A. Sort. Of Snake pit. Very much a snake pit that we encounter in raiders of the lost Ark, film that we've, we spent a lot of time talking about on the show we did we did a couple of episodes on the Ark of the Covenant that I encourage everyone to everyone to go back and listen to where we spin off. We also frequently refer back to raiders for examples of things that raiders does that refers to. Various qualities of the arc in ancient traditions. I've just thinking back on those Ark of the covenant episodes because I remember we talked about this one professor from the. Nineteen twenties or thirties who had this crank theory that the Ark of the Covenant was a real historical artifact and it was a giant electrical capacitor yes. Yeah. That was pretty good. Yeah. But what I was laughing at when you were talking, I'm sorry if I sort of interrupted but I was laughing the fact that you called the pit in Raiders, a sword of snake pit. I mean, it's definitely a snake pit don't beat around the Bush here. It's very much a snake bit it. It is an amazing and really game changing one of the many amazing engaging sequences in the film. It is the well of souls sequence now to refresh everybody. First of all the well of souls is an actual place. It's a partially manmade cave located inside the foundation stone. Under the Dome of the Rock Shrine in Jerusalem. The name itself pit of souls well of souls stems from medieval Islamic legend in this where the the spirits of the dead or supposedly awaiting judgment. Day. But that it has nothing or very little to do with the well of souls that we encounter in raiders of the lost Ark. In raiders, the well of souls, and this is straight from the Indiana Jones Wicky is quote part of a temple built within the ancient city of tennis where the Ark of the covenant was placed after Farrow she sacked stole it from Jerusalem again, that is entirely within the context of the Indiana Jones world don't confuse that with actual history right now there is no indication that there's an actual pit of snakes in any archaeological site in ancient Egypt. Right but it makes for a great scene because of course, we remember what happens is that. Indiana Jones and his cohorts discovered that Oh. This is the actual resting place of the Ark of the Nazis are off their digging in the wrong spot. So they open it up, and of course, they immediately see it full of snakes. He hates snakes, they lower him down. Anyway they go. His friend who is it Sala. Sala. Yeah. Solid goes down with them. They they crank the the arc up in. That's win Belloc and the Nazi show up they steal the Ark and just for sheer meanness, they throw Marian down there into the pit with him in an a seal inside with a bazillion snakes
Trump weighs in on birther theory about Harris' eligibility to be VP
"Trump was a major force behind the Birther movement, claiming that President Barack Obama was not eligible to serve due to a racist conspiracy theory. That he was not born in the United States. Well, yesterday, Mr Trump cast similar doubt on Joe Biden's running mate, mate, Kamala Harris, who was black during a Corona virus briefing. He said he heard that the California born senator doesn't meet the requirements. Presidential candidate must be a natural born U. S. Citizen, a resident for 14 years and over 35 years old all requirements that Harris meets Justus. President Obama did CBS News Legal analyst Jonathan Turley says the Supreme Court precedent for this is more than a century old. Overwhelmingly, the courts take the view that if you're born within the United States, you are in fact a U. S citizen that has been challenged through history by both legislators and commentators, including some today, But the Supreme Court affirmed that people born in the United States are indeed natural born citizens in 18 98 in a case called the United States, versus Wong Kim, Ark. Well. Earlier this morning, Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, who's a trump ally, said that Kamala Harris quote is unequivocally and American citizen. Joe Biden's campaign is responding to the Birther issue, a Biden spokesman saying President Trump was the national leader of the racist Birther movement with respected President Obama, the spokesman saying. It's not surprised is the president tries to distract the American people from his Corona virus response that his campaign would resort to lies in their pathetic desperation.
Long-Haulers Deal With Symptoms Weeks After Coronavirus Infection
"Doctor. Let me start you with this one. This is Ah, question we've had come up before Four. Public awareness. Could you discuss Post Cove in medical conditions in layperson's terms? In other words, Once someone has quote unquote survived or gotten through the disease? What's the future look like? What do we know now? Sure. Well, that's a relatively new recognition that recovery from Kobe. It may not be a rapid return to one's previous state of health. I would still be optimistic that many individuals will return to their previous state of health, but it may not be and weeks or even a few months, it may take longer. But we don't As you said earlier. We don't have the complete ark of this because of the relative newness. I would put the Post Cove it concerns into three buckets. One would be just ongoing fatigue and recovery from any illness can have a phase of fatigue. That lives beyond when the virus itself is gone. So I think that one would have to gradually re engage in exercise and all of their usual activities, with some expectation that the elimination of the virus may not lead to feeling 100 per cent. As they did before. So fatigue would be the first bucket. The second would be respiratory, meaning that any pneumonia and certainly this one because it is primarily a respiratory infection can lead to either transient or in some rarer in instances. Ongoing loss of lung function so there could be scarring or restriction of one's ability to get enough oxygen, particularly during exercise, So I think we're still mindful that people with Post Covic symptoms could be reflective of some degree of lung injury from the pneumonia. And the third and probably most interesting and unknown is other effects after one has recovered from Cove it such as cognitive Such as heart with his so called mile card itis. Where either during or after the active infection, there could be inflammation of other tissues, including the heart. Which could also be part of the ability to inability to exercise normally. So there are myriad other organ systems involved by covert. We know this. There are clots. It's very unique in that way, and that people can have either small clots in the extremities so called covert toes or potentially even clots and more major blood vessels that lead to organ damage, and those two could contribute to Post Cove it
Pilgrimage to Sacred Activism
"Hi Andrew and welcome on to the hey house meditations podcast how wonderful to be with you and how wonderful to have the opportunity to speak to whoever's listening from my heart. Out wonderful wonderful. I'd like to talk to you today about the Fifteenth Century Poet Mystic Kabeer. Who you've been doing so much work on and and perhaps have you read a few of his lines. That articulate a meditative experience that is at once transcendent but also completely grounded I really appreciate that in computer But before we get there, there's a pilgrimage that I like to ask you to take us on a pilgrimage to the ark of of your own spiritual journey. An ARC that is has taken pauses with a variety of traditions, teachers, and Gurus and especially that are of the internal pilgrimage of the heart. So I wonder if you'd take us on that pilgrimage and then we'll sort of maybe conclude with Kabira. Does that sound all right with you? That sounds wonderful. Today and your little remission it it's. Never ends. I remember when I was with father bid when he was dying and. The thing that struck me most and move me most about him here. He was the greatest living Christian mystic but even on his deathbed when he was eighty seven, he was still striving for deeper and deeper realize. So he gave me a permanent image of what this really is journey of endless expansion. Shems of Tabriz said to Rumi. The world of God is wealth of endless expansion. We don't ever arrive. We just go Diba and DEEPA and Deepa went blasted where wild enough were brave enough into a mystery that always keeps opening onto wilder and holy vistas. This is my experience. Yes, and you're well I must say your your life has demonstrated that but I'm not exactly certain if you knew that when you were born. In mother India right you are. You're born in south India early in your life. You earlier in life you're surrounded by multiple religious by religious face including your your parents Protestant faith. And among the Hindus and Muslims. So how did that early on your life? How did that shape your outlook on the nature of humans on the nature of people and the nature of the divine? India is too big bomb in a well the distill known that live as cred experience. And that mock me forever I feel that I have an Indian. So a European mind and an American mission. So my deepest deepest ground is always in there especially in south India. When I was born. Nineteen fifty two was the twilight of the Rosh. So this. Was the atmosphere of an. Empire would still. Diffused itself through everything but India itself although it had been dominated by the British in never lost its passionate spirituality and that's what I met in the earliest and most impressionable years of my life. I loved going to temples with my Hindu coke. I loved learning the hail. Mary from my Catholic nanny and I loved it when the driver that we had to as a Muslim stopped the car in the middle of traffic and put his. Prem Don and chunk to Allah. In very early on. I met a saint and this is an extraordinary story because I had white Russian. Godmother. who used to smoke cigarettes out of black along black cigarette holder in Lyon dressed in gold she fall she looked like a Russian Melena dietrich and I was crazy about her she's. and. Every day off to school I would go running up the stairs of her flag. And jumped into bed between her and have great friend who is huge Rowley poterie Indian woman Shanti. Of course as a child I didn't know. Shanti Shanti, later revealed to me it was India's greatest living Quila and she is the child had been. A welcome to previous incarnation and a gunman, a group of journalists to the village that she'd been born in. As, a nine year old recognized absolutely everybody and Meta previous husband and said the money looking for is under a break in the back. So he went and found the money that he'd been looking for. Any. gave. Me a lot of profound simple instruction. She told me two things that have not my whole life. She said God is one. God is the sea and all religions alike rivers that run into the sea. So. Don't get hung up on anyone religion realized that they're all different expressions of the same unity, the different expressions of the same reality
Sandworm: A New Era of Cyberwar and the Hunt for the Kremlin's Most Dangerous Hackers
"Everybody from the British. Ask this week's interview. Episode has any Greenberg senior writer at wired. He just SORTA book called Sand Worm New Era of cyber war in the hunt for the Kremlin's Miss, dangerous hackers, it is all about hacking group inside of the Russian government called San Worm. They were responsible for the most damaging cyber warfare attacks over the past year there behind not PECI. The hackers took out in the mayor shipping line hospitals across the U. K San has totally escalated. What we think of Cyber War, and he's book gets all into how they were discovered how they were flushed out the. The intricacies of these various hacks. It's super interesting. The book is a thrill ride. If you're looking for something that isn't the virus. This is like a thriller, a highly recommended. It was really fun to talk to her about the stuff. one thing I. WanNa know we're all at home so during this in every might hear some kids in the background. I asked you just be a little forgiving that we're all. We're all dealing with it and he was a great interview. Check Out Sandy Greenberg of sand worm, a new era of cyber war and the hunt for the Kremlin's most dangerous hack. Any Greenberg your senior writer at wired you're also the author of Sand Worm, new era of cyber war in the hunt for the Kremlin's most dangerous. Welcome glad to be here so even writing about cybersecurity frontier I think you just said two thousand six and writing about Cybersecurity, but this book sand worm as I was reading it. It seems like it's called the new era of cyber war. It seems like there's been a huge turn in sort of state-sponsored. Particularly Russians sponsored cyber attacks. How did you come onto that notion? How did you begin reading this book I'm I'm very curious how you see. See that turn happening well. In late twenty sixteen, my former colleague Kim Zetter she had been the one who really covered state sponsored hacking in cyber war stuff, but she left wired, and this was also at the time. When you know Russian hackers were meddling in the US election, they'd hacked the democratic. National Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Clinton Campaign, so my editors were really primes on face, mantra hacking all of a sudden, but what they? They really what they told me they wanted was a actually like a big takeover of the whole magazine. All about cyber war, but cyber war to me is different than those kinds of espionage election, meddling tactics so I went looking for no real cyber war story, which means to me like a actual disruptive cyber attacks, and as I looked around. It seemed like the place where that was really happening was in Ukraine not really in the US in fact maybe. Maybe what was happening in? Ukraine seemed to me like it was in some ways, the only real full blown cyber war that was actually occurring where Russian hackers were not just attacking the election which they had done, they tried this spoof the results of a presidential election, but they had also attacks media and destroyed their computers. They had attacked government agencies and tried to like destroy entire networks, and then they had turned off the power for the first time. In December of two thousand, fifteen, the the first actual blackout triggered by hackers, and just as I was look into this happened again the the effect, the seem hacker group caused a blackout this time in the capital of Kiev so I wince looking in Ukraine for this cyber war story that. Turned into a cover story for wired that kind of gave editors what they wanted, but then also kept unfolding This cyber war kept growing in scope and scale and. The original story written for wired was kind of about the fact that you could look to Ukraine to see the future of cyber war that will what was happening. There might soon spread to the rest of the world. And that is actually what happens to like just after we publish that cover story to same hackers released this climactic terrible cyber attack in Ukraine. Called Not Petiot that spread beyond Ukrainians became the worst cyberattack history cost ten billion dollars, so when that happened, that was when I saw that there was potential to do a book about this that it was not just a kind of case study about Ukraine or even kind of predictive story, but a an actual full story arc about this one group that had carried out the what I would say was not only the first. First Real Cyber War, but the worst cyberattack in history and the you know I wanted to capture the the Ark of that story in the effects, the real experience of cyber war. Yeah, so the group is called sand worm in this is just one of the the sort of opening arcs of the book is how they've come. They come to be named this because references and code walk people through just like it's so. relatable that like even these hackers are using using this language that leads them recalled Sandwich Tell people about it. So when I started to look into the origins of this group after that second blackout attack I I found that this this company called eyesight partners which have been acquired by fire I I, said partners was the first to find these hackers in twenty, fourteen, basically using fishing in kind of typical espionage tactics, plant malware in the networks of typical Russian hacking targets like groups across Eastern, Europe and NATO in a look like what they were doing was just kind of typical espionage. They were planning. This by wear calls lack energy buds will first of all they could see that they were rushing, because they had this server that they were using to administer some of these attacks and they. They left the server, so anybody could look at it in. There was a kind of Russian language to file for how to use black energy on the service, so these guys seem like they were rushing, but even more interesting in some ways. was that they to track each victim each instance of black energy? This malware has little campaign code in each campaign was a reference to the science fiction novel Dune and you know so like one of them was something about Iraq is, and then one of them is about the sutter cars, these like imperial soldiers in in that SCI FI universe so I said partners named this group sand worm, because well just because it's a cool. Name associated with doing, but it turned out to me. It became this very powerful because a sandwich miss this monster that lies beneath the surface, and occasionally arises from underground to do terribly destructive things. partners didn't know that at the time, they they soon afterward realized what sand. was doing was not just espionage, but they were actually doing reconnaissance for disruptive cyberattacks. They were also hacking power grids. They were planning black energy, not only in the European Eastern European targets in the US power grid networks as well. The Ultimately Syndrome was the first twenty fifteen to cross that line in use black energy as the first step in a multi step attack that led to a blackout. So this was not just espionage really was kind of like you know this monster that rises from under the ground to do terrible acts of mass destruction that came to pass so one of the things that comes up over in the book. Is this growing sense of dread from security researchers and analysts? Oh this is an imminent threat to the united. States just Ukraine, but like this is happening here and then there's a sense that the United States actually open the door to this kind of warfare with stuxnet. which was an attack on Iran? How how did those connect for you that it seemed like there's a new rule of engagement new set of rules of engagement for cyber warfare that actually the United States implicitly created with with stuxnet by attacking Iran. Yeah, I mean I tried to highlight. Clearly sand worm are the real bad guys in the story, they are the actual hacker group that did these terribly reckless destructive attacks that actually in some cases put people's lives at risk, the kind of in some parts of the story they actually shutdown medical record systems and I. Think may have cost people's lives with cyber attacks today they are the actual antagonist here, but I also want to highlight the ways that the US government is is partially responsible for the state of Cyber War, and there are a few ways that that's true. I The US! Open the Pandora's box of cyber war with stuxnet. This piece of now where that. That was used to destroy Iranian nuclear enrichment centrifuges that was the first piece of our that actually have caused that physical disruption destruction, and we now see Sandra doing the same thing in Ukraine. In in fact, in some ways around the world, also the the US hordes, these kind of zero day, secret hacking techniques, some of which were stolen and leaked and used by sand worm, but then I think the in fact, the biggest way that I tried to highlight that the US is responsible or complicit or negligent. Here is that we did not call allows what Santorum was doing in Ukraine and say to Russia. We know what you're doing. This is unacceptable. Nobody should be turning out the lights. Two civilians with cyber attacks. There wasn't a message like that I. mean the Obama White House sent a message to Russia over this kind of cyber hotline to say your election hacking is not okay. We see what you're doing and we want you to stop, but they said nothing about a tube blackout attacks in Ukraine, and that was kind of implicit signal to Russia. They could keep. Keep escalating, and even as all the cyber security, researchers and Ukrainians were warning that what was happening to Ukraine, would soon spread to the rest of the world, the US government ignore this both Obama, and then the trump administration until that prediction came to pass and a sand worm cyberattack did spread to the rest of the world, and it was too late, and we all suffered globally as a result, so let's talk about patch it. WAS CATASTROPHIC IN SCOPE, right? It took out the mayor shipping line, which is a massive business. It took out some hospitals in UK like it was huge in scope. I don't think people really put it all together. Talk about how it started and how big it grew. Yeah, so not too was kind of like big apotheosis sandwich, where all of these predictions of the terribly destructive things they were doing to the rest of the world came to pass but it did it started in Ukraine. They hijacked this. The the software updates of this accounting software called me doc that is basically used by everybody in Ukraine. The quicken turbo tax of Ukraine. If you do business in Ukraine, you have to have this installed, so sanborn hijack the updates of that news to push out this worm to thousands of victims mostly in Ukraine, but it was a worm, so it's spread the mmediately end quickly kind of carpet bombs. The entire Ukrainian Internet's every computer at spread to would encrypt permanently. You could not recover the computer, so it very quickly took down pretty much every. Every Ukrainian government agency twenty two banks multiple airports for hospitals in Ukraine that I. could count and in each of these cases. What is eight took them down. I mean it destroyed essentially all of their computers, which requires sometimes weeks or months to recover from, but then as you know, this is a worm that does not respect national borders. So even though it was, it seemed to be an attack intended to disrupt Ukraine. It immediately spread beyond Ukraine's borders. Borders to everybody who had this accounting software installed? That was doing business in Ukraine and some people who didn't so that includes Maersk. The world's largest shipping firm and Fedex and Mondelez, which owns cadbury, NABISCO and ranking manufacturing firm that makes tylenol in Merck. The Pharmaceutical Company in New Jersey on each of these companies lost hundreds of millions of dollars. The scale of this is kind of difficult to capture but I in the book I tried to. To I focused in part Maersk because it is just a good company to look at because you can. They had this gigantic global physical machine that is they have seventy six ports around the world that they own as well as these massive ships that have tens of thousands of shipping containers on them. And I told the story of how on this day seventeen of their terminals of were entirely paralyzed by this attack with ships arriving with just. Piles of containers on them. Nobody could unload. Nobody knew what was inside of nobody knew how to load or unload them with around the world of seventeen terminals, thousands of trucks, Semitrailers, carrying containers were lining up in Lyons miles long because the gates that were kind of checkpoints to check in the these trucks to drop something off or pick it up. They were paralyzed as well. This was a fiasco on a global scale is responsible for a fifth of the world's lable shipping capacity. They were truly just a rendered brain dead by this attack, but yeah displayed out at all of these different victims MERC had to borrow their own each vaccine from the Center for Disease Control because they're manufacturing. Manufacturing was disrupted by this, and it ultimately spread to a company called nuance, nate speech to text software. They have a service that does this for hospitals across the US to dozens of our possibly hundreds of American hospitals at this backlog of transcriptions to medical records that were lost because of this, and that resulted in patients, being do for surgeries or transfers, other hospitals in nobody knew their medical records were updated. I mean this was scale where hundreds of hospitals each of which has thousands of patients missing changes the medical records. We don't know what the effects of that work, but very well could've actually harmed people's health. Our lives I mean the scale of not petty is very difficult to. Get your mind around, but we do know that you know monetarily cost ten billion dollars, which is by far the biggest number we've ever seen, but it also had this this kind of harder to quantify toll on people's lives, so it it you know you read about it at length and wired. Obviously these companies go down of ripples in mainstream sort of general press, but I don't feel like people really not like Oh. This Russian group called San Worms sponsored by the Russian government. Unleash this attack in it caused this cascading effect of failure and disaster cost in that because we know what we can attribute it to the government, our government. I don't feel like that connection got made for people. What is the gap between other as a hack and Oh, this is actually a type of warfare engagement, because that that connection seems very tenuous. I think for a lot of people. Even as sort of the more general mainstream press covers this stuff. Yeah, you know. I don't think that that's is just like the nature of. Of Cyber War I think that was a failing that that lack of connection is a failing on our government's parts, and on you could say even on the part of some of these victims like these large companies I mean I at the time did not pitch it happened. I was fully on the trail of standard within days. I was talking to cyber security researchers who? Who had piece together? Some of the forensics to show the not petiot was Sandra that it was a Russian state-sponsored attack in yet none of those companies that I mentioned mercker Mondelez or Maersk or Fedex, or any of them wanted to say the Russia had done this to them and know governments were talking about either like the Ukrainian government was. They're always willing to point. Point the finger at Russia, but the US government was not, and you know that to me seemed to be just kind of I mean I felt like I was being gas. Let's at that point. I had watched Russia due to Ukraine for a long time at that point tonight. I sort of understood that NATO in the West. We had this kind of cruel logic that. Ukraine is not us. Russia can do what it likes to Ukraine because they're not NATO not e you. They are Russia's sphere of influence or something I think that that's very wrongheaded, but at least it made sense. You know to have that that viewpoints, but now this attack had spread from Ukraine to hit American soil American companies in many cases and yet still the US government was saying nothing I just thought this was bizarre and you know so i. For months I was like. Trying to get any of these companies to tell the story of of their experiences, not Peta I was trying to figure out why the US government wasn't talking about the fact that this was a Russian cyberattack and ultimately I. Think it was I. think it was kind of I know partly disorganization negligence. I think it may have something to do with the fact that the. The? Trump administration doesn't like talking about Russian hackers for obvious reasons, but eight months after it took eight months ultimately for the US government to finally say not that it was a was Russia it was the worst cyberattack in history, and then a month later. The White House impose consequences in put new sanctions on Russia and response, but it took nine months and more importantly it took. Multiple years this without was the first time this was twenty eighteen, and the Russian cyber war in Ukraine had started around the fall of Twenty fifteen, so that's just incredible span of negligence when the US government said nothing about these escalating unfolding. Acts, of Cyber Award that there should have been unacceptable from the very beginning I mean these are the kind of quintessential acts of state sponsored cyber attacks on civilians, trying out the lights. You know that's the kind of thing that I believe that the US government should have called out and drawn a red line across at the very beginning took ears, so I do think it was a big failing. Of of diplomacy, it just seemed like that part of the problem, and this is kind of an expression is it's so hard to describe like if the Russian government sent fighter jets to America and live their support. Okay, like everyone understood, you can see it. You can understand what happened there. In the you know, there's like a however many decades of movies about how to fight that war. This is a bunch of people in a room typing. Like it there's just an element of this where the dangerous Oh federal where the attack is invisible, and while the effects might be very very tangible, the causes are still sort of mysterious people so. My question is who is sandwich. What what do we know about them? Where do they work? What are they like? Do we have a sense of how this operation actually operates? In some ways the the biggest challenge of reporting this book, and I spent essentially the third act of the book, the last third of the reporting of the book, trying to answer the question of who is in worm, who are these people? Where are they located? What motivates them and I guess to partially spoil the ending here. They are a unit of the year you. They are a part of Russia's military intelligence agency, which is responsible for you know, this is not a coincidence. They are responsible for election meddling responsible for the attempted assassination of You. chemical weapons in the United Kingdom they're responsible for the downing of a seventeen as commercial passenger jet over Ukraine were three hundred innocent people died on the G. R.. You are this incredibly reckless callous out military intelligence agency, but they act like kind of almost just cut through mercenaries around the world. Doing Russia's bidding in ways that are very scary, so I threw essentially like a combination of excellent work of a bunch of security researchers who I was speaking to combined with some confirmation from US intelligence agencies, and then ultimately some other clues from the investigation of Robert Muller into meddling all these things combined created the trail that led to one group within the JERE. You that were you know I? Eventually had some names and faces even address of this this group, and all that was actually only finally fully confirms After the book came out Justin in recent months when the White House finally actually was the State Department's. End as well as the UK on Australian and other governments together finally said yes, sand worm is in fact that this unit of the year you so this theory that I developed in positive near the end of the book was finally basically confirmed by governments just in recent months. So one thing that strikes me at that is I, think of the Russian military things. Gru is being foreboding being obviously, they're very very good at this other a buttoned up in then they have like a incredible social media presence that kind of POPs up throughout the book that distracts from what doing. They set up Gucci for two point Oh when they were doing the DNC hacks that fed to wikileaks in the. That account insisted it was just guy. They set up the shadow brokers which was. I read. It is just like your some goof-balls like they wanted to seem a lot dumber and a lot smaller than they were. They were very effective at it to people I. Talk About those that strategy, and then I guess my question have is like a re better at seeing that strategy for what it is well. You make a really interesting point. The uses these false flags like throughout their recent history that we I should say we don't know that they were responsible for shadow brokers. In fact, nobody knows who shot a brokers. The shadow brokers truly are, and they are in some ways the biggest mystery in this whole story, this one group that hacked the NSA apparently and leaked a bunch of their zero day hacking techniques, or maybe they were even say insiders. We still don't know the answer to that question, but the other other incidents you mentioned. That are you are responsible for this Guja for two point zero fake hacktivists leaked a bunch of the Clinton documents. They're responsible for other false flags like they at one point to call themselves the Cyber Caliphate pretended to be Isis. They've a pretended to be like patriotic pro. Russian Ukrainians at some point they they're always like wearing different masks ends. They're very deceptive. in the a later chapter of the book, some of the biggest one of the biggest attacks they. They did was this attack on the twenty thousand Olympics where they not only wore a false mask, but they actually had layers of false flags where as cyber security researchers W. This melwert was used to destroy the entire back end of the two thousand eighteen winter Olympics. Just as the opening ceremony began, this was a catastrophic events. The aware had all of these fake clues made look like it was Chinese or North Korean or maybe Russian. Nobody could tell it was like. It was this kind of confusion bomb almost designed to to just make researchers throw up their hands. Give up on attributing mallards. Any particular actor was only through some amazing detective work by some of the analysts that I spoke to the able to cut through those false flags identify that sand was behind this essentially, but yeah, it's it is a one very real characteristic of the jury you that they are almost they seem to almost take pleasure or like be showing off their deception capabilities to and their evolving those capabilities they are getting more deceptive over time as fake gets more, destructive aggressive. Advertising content when I say Utopia what comes to mind? Birds Chirping lush natural beauty dialed up and vibrant technicolor. Is it within reach. Your world. World. explained. You are an essential part of the Pathak social body. Everybody in that place. Everybody happy now. While the peacock original series brave new world takes place in a scientific futuristic utopia. The concept is nothing new Sir Thomas more. 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Not Connected Right, but the way they throughout the book the way they execute East campaigns they're deeply connected, and that seems like not only just a new kind of warfare, and you kind of craft, but some just consistently seems to work in surprising ways like the tech press is GonNa. Be Like Gucci. I says this and we're. There's never that next step of also we think it's Russian government, and that seems like first of all I'm dying. I imagine the meeting right. I would love to be a fly on the wall of the meeting where they decide what their twitter name is going to be today. I'm very curious how they evolve those attacks in such a way that it just seems to be more and more effective time. Yeah, I mean. I also love to have been those meetings in. It's my one kind of regret in this book that I never actually got. Interviews, it's almost an impossible thing to do. They liked find defectors from the R., you or something. He will tell those stories at a knock it murdered I mean. It's kind of a possible, but but. In some cases? I think your earlier points. They almost seem kind of bumbling in these things they do them in a very improvisational way. for two point Oh seemed almost like it was a justice thing they invented on the spot, tried to cover up some of the the accidental ups like they had left russian-language formatting errors in the documents that they had leaked from the DNC, so they admitted this guy who appeared the next day and started. Talking about being a Romanian. Friends as motherboard Lorenza, Franceschi decry he started this conversation. Align with with Guja for two point, oh basically proved at the guy could not actually properly speak Romanian. BE Russian speaker. In fact, it was. It was almost comical at the same time. They're using very sophisticated hacking techniques doing destructive attacks on a massive scale, but they're also. They seem like they're kind of making it up as they go along. They do things that don't actually seem very kind of strategically smart. They kind of seem like they're trying to impress their boss for the day. Sometimes with just like some sometimes, it's just seems like the Jere. You wakes up in asks themselves. Like what can we blow up today? Rather than thinking like? How can we accomplish the greater strategic objectives of the Russian Federation? So they are fascinating in that way and very stringent colorful group. That's I think one of the biggest questions I have here is. We spend a lot of time trying to imagine what flat and Mirror Putin wants. You know when he grows up, but it. None of this seems targeted like what is the goal for Russia to disrupt the Winter Olympics right like. Is there a purpose to that? Is that just a strike fear? Is it just to? EXPAND THAT SUV influenced. Is it just to say we have the capability furious is there? has there ever really been the stated goal for this kind of cyber warfare? That one is particularly mystifying. I mean you can imagine why Russia would want to attack the Olympics. They were banned from the two thousand Eighteen Olympics doping, but then you would think that they might want to attack the Olympics and send a message maybe like eight deniable message a message that you know if you continue to ban us. We're GONNA. Continue to attack you like like any terrorists would do, but instead they attacked the winter. Olympics in this way, that really seemed like they were trying not to get caught, and instead like make it look like the was Russia North Korea? And then you have to like what is the point of that was? The could kind of. Sit there in Moscow and kind of like rub their hands together in gleefully. Watch this chaos unfolds. It almost really does seem like it was petty vindictive thing that they just for their own emotional needs wanted to make sure that nobody could enjoy the Olympics if they were not going to enjoy them I that was, but that one is i. think outlier in some ways for the most part you can kind of see. The Russia is advancing. The G. R. You that sand worm is advancing something that does generally make sense which is that. In Ukraine for instance, they're trying to make Ukraine look like a failed state. They're trying to make Ukrainians. Lose faith in their security. Services are trying to prevent investors globally from funneling money into Ukraine trying to create a kind of frozen conflict, as we say in Ukraine where there's this constant perpetual state of degradation. They're not trying to conquer the country, but they're trying to create a kind of permanent war in Ukraine and would cyber war. You can do that beyond the traditional front end. It is in some ways the same kind of tactic that they used in other places like the US which. which here we saw more than influence operation that they were hacking leaking organizations like democratic campaign organizations and anti doping organizations to kind of so confusion to embarrass on their targets. They're trying to influence like the international audiences opinion these people, but in Ukraine, it is in some ways, just a different kind of influence operation where they're trying to influence the world's view of Ukraine. Influence Ukrainians view of their themselves under government to make them feel like they are in a war zone even when their kid hundreds of miles from the actual fighting. That's happening on the eastern fronts in the eastern region of. Of Ukraine so in a book you you you go to Kiev. You spent time in Ukraine. Is there a sense in that country that while sometimes light goes out sometimes our TV stations. Their computers don't boot anymore. Because they got rewritten, the Hydros got Zeros like. Is there a sense that this is happening? Is there a sense the defy back is there does Microsoft deploy you know dozens of engineers to to help fight back. How does that play out on the ground there? Yeah, I mean to be fair. Ukrainians are very stoic about these things and regular. Ukrainian citizens were not bothered by you know. Know a short blackout. They didn't particularly care you know. This blackout was the first ever. Hacker induced blackout in history but Ukrainian cyber security. People were very unnerved by this end, people in these actual utilities were traumatized I mean these attacks were truly like relentless sins very kind of scary for the actual operators at the controls I mean in the first blackout attack. These poor operators Ukrainian control room in western Ukraine they were locked out of their computers, and they had to watch their own mouse cursor. Click through circuit breakers, turning off the power in front of them I. Mean They watched it happen? At these kind of Phantom hands to control of their mouse movements, so they took this very very seriously, but yet Ukrainians as a whole I mean they have seen a lot. They are going through an actual physical war. They've seen the seizure of Crimea and the invasion of the east of the country. You know the the date hits. A Ukrainian general was assassinated with a car bomb in the middle of Kiev, so they have a lot of problems, and I'm not sure that cyber war is one of the top of their minds, but not patio I. Did, actually reach Ukrainians normal. Ukrainian civilians to it. It shook them as well. I talked to two regular Ukrainians. who found that they couldn't swipe into the Kiev Metro. They couldn't use their credit card at the grocery store. All the ATM's were down The Postal Service was taken out for every computer that the postal service had was taken out for more than a month. I mean these things really did affect people's lives, but it kind of. A until that kind of climactic worm. Not Patio for I think for this to really reach home for Ukrainians. who have kind of seen so much. How do you fight back? I, mean I one of things that struck me as I was reading. The book is so many of the people you talked to people who are identifying the threat. They're actually private companies. Eyesight was the first even detect it. they are contractors to intelligence agencies the military in some cases, but they're not necessarily the government right like it's not necessarily Microsoft. Who has to issue the patches from the software not necessarily GE which makes simplicity, which is the big industrial controls talk about a lot. How does all that come together into a defense because that seems like harder problem of coordination? Yeah, I mean defense in Cyber. Security is in an eternal problem. It's incredibly complicated, and when you have a really sophisticated determined adversary, it know they will win eventually ends I. think that they're absolutely lessons for defense in this book about you know. Maybe you need to really really think about software updates for instance like the kind that were hijacked to a with this medoc accounting software. As a vector for terrible cyber-attacks. Imagine that like. Any of your insecure apps that have kind of updates can be become a a piece of Malware, really unique to signature networks need to think about patching on. There are just an endless kind of checklist of things to every organization needs to do to protect themselves so. In some ways that just like a Sisyphean task and I don't. I don't try to answer that question in the book because it's too big, and it's kind of boring as well, but what I do really hammer on is the thing that the government's really could've done here. which is to try to establish norms tried to control attackers through diplomacy through kind of disciplinary action through things like kind of Geneva Convention for Cyber War if. If you think about a kind of analogy to say like chemical weapons, we could just try to give everyone in the world a gas mask that they have to carry around with them at all times, or we could create a Geneva. Convention norm that chemical weapons should not be used in if they are than crime, and you get pulled in front of the Hague. Hague and we've done the ladder and I think that in some ways should be part of the the answer to cyber war as well we need to establish norms and make countries like Russia or like organizations like the G. Are you understand that there will be consequences for these kinds of attacks, even when the victim is not the US or NATO or the? The EU and I think we're only just starting to think about that. One of the questions I had as reading is it seems like a very clear red line for almost everyone you talk to is attacks on the power grid right? That is just unacceptable. You should not do it if you do it. You've crossed a line and there should be some consequence. Is, that clear to governments. Is that something that our government says? It's something that the says it has been established. It seems like it's it's the conventional wisdom wants to salvage, but I'm not unclear whether that is actually the line that exists. It definitely has not been established, and when I kind of did these I managed to get sort of interviews with the top cyber security officials in the Obama ends trump administration Jay Michael Daniel was the cyber. Cyber Coordinator for the administration was the kind of cyber coordinator boss in the The Homeland Security Adviser for trump and both of them when I asked him about like wiped. Why didn't you know to put it bluntly like? Why didn't you respond? When Russia caused blackouts in Ukraine? Both of them essentially said well. You know that's not actually the rule that we want to set. We want to be able to cause blackouts in our adversaries networks. In their power grids when we are in a war situation or when we believe it's in our national interest, so you know that's the thing about these cyber war capabilities. This is part of the problem that every country. Absolutely the US among them isn't really interested in controlling these weapons, because we in this kind of Lord of the rings fashion, we are drawn to them to like we want to maintain the ability to use those weapons ourselves and nobody wants to throw this ring in the fires, of Mount Doom. We all wanted maintain the ring and imagine that we can use it for good in out. So that's why neither administration called that Russia for doing this because they want that power to. Make the comparison to to nuclear weapons but Negotiated drawdown and treaties with Russia in the past we count warheads where aware that the United States stockpiles can destroy the world. Fifty Times over today maybe tomorrow one hundred hundred like what we have a sense of the the measure of force that we can. Put on the world when it comes to nuclear weapons, there's a sense that Oh, we should never use these right like we have them as a deterrent, but we've gained out that actually leads to his mutually assured destruction like there's an entire body of academics. There's entire body of researchers. Entire body is got scenario planning with that kind of weapon. Does that same thing exist for for cyber weapons. There are absolutely. Know community is of academics. Policymakers who are thinking about this stuff now, but I don't think it's kind of gotten through to actual government decision. that. There needs to be kind of cyber deterrence in how that would work. In in the comparison to nuclear weapons is like instructive, but not exactly helpful. In fact, it's kind of counter-productive because we cannot deter cyber-attacks with other cyber-attacks i. don't think that's GonNa work in part because we haven't even tried to establish it yet. There are no kind of rules or read lines, but then I think more importantly. Everybody thinks that they can get away with cyberattacks that they can. They're going to create a false flag. That's clever enough that that when they blow up a power grid, they can blame their neighbor instead, so they think they're. They're gonNA. Get Away with it, and that causes them to do it anyway. A not fear the kind of assured destruction so I think that the the right response, the way to to deter cyber attacks is not with the promise of a cyber attack in return. It's with all the other kind of tools we have, and they've been used sometimes, but but they were not in the case of Sand Werman. Those tools include like sanctions which came far too late in the story indictments of hackers. In some cases, we still haven't really seen syndrome. Hackers indicted for the things that they did in Ukraine or or even not petty. And then ultimately just kind of messaging like calling out naming and shaming bad actors, and that has happened to some degree with Sandra, but in some cases there have still been massive failures there there has still been no public attribution of the Sandwich attack on the twenty eighteen Olympics I mean. My Book has been out for months. I think show pretty clear evidence that syndrome is responsible for this attack. The very least it was Russia and yet the US and Korean War, These Olympics took place at UK, none of these governments have named Russia as having done that. That attack which almost just invites them to do it again whenever our next Olympics are going to be, I guess maybe not this year, but if you don't send that message than you're just essentially inviting Russia to try again so I think might my big question is what happens now? I mean right we you write about. The NSA has tailored access operations, which is their elite hacking group. We are obviously interested in maintaining some of these capabilities. We've come to a place where people are writing books about how it works. What is the next step? What is the next? does it just keep getting worse or does this kind of diplomacy you're talking about? Is that beginning to happen I? Think there is some little glimmers of hope about the diplomacy beginning to happen I mean this year in February I think it was the State Department's called out a sand worm attack on Georgia, where a worms hackers basically took down a ton of Georgian websites by attacking the hosting providers as well as a couple of TV's broadcasters in the US. State Department with a few other governments not. said this was sand. Worm named the unit of the GRU. That's is that was confirmation that I've been looking for for a long time, but they also made a point of saying that we're calling this out is unacceptable, even though Georgia. Georgia is not part of NATO or the U. so that's that's progress. That's essentially creating a new kind of rule. That's state-sponsored. Hackers can't do certain things, no matter who the victims and that's really important. Also, it was kind of interesting because federal officials like gave me a heads up about that announcement before happened, which they have very very rarely do and I think they were trying. To say was in we. We read your book and we. Got The message okay like Stop attacking us about this like we're trying. We're doing something different here I. Don't want flatter myself that I actually changed their policy, but it did seem interesting that they wanted to tell me personally about this so i. I think that like maybe our stance on this kind of diplomacy is evolving, and we're learning lessons, but at the same time we also see the attacks evolving to. To and their new innovations in these kinds of disruption happening, we've seen since some of these terrible Sandra attacks. You know other very scary things like this piece of our called Triton or crisis that was used to disabled safety systems in a oil refinery in Saudi Arabia on that was you know that could have caused an actual physical explosion of petrochemical facility? The the attacks are evolving to okay final last real question. Tell people where they can get your book. You can find all kinds of places by on indie Greenberg Dot net. Written another book as well previously, yes. That's right. I wrote a book about wikileaks. Cypher punks and things like that. That's right well. I'm a huge fan. It was an honor to talk to you. Thank you so much for coming on I know it's. It's a weird time to be talking about anything, but the coronavirus I was very happy to talk about something else, which is that it seems a little bit more in control Even if it is quite dangerous, a thank you for the time. I appreciate it. Yeah, I'm glad to provide people with a different kind of apocalypse as a distraction.
Security Firms Soar on Stock Market Following Twitter's Big Hack
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"California say the body of actor singer Naya Rivera has been recovered. Rivera is presumed to have drowned while boating on the lake Inventory County last week. NPR is NEDA Lola B. Reports that the 33 year old entertainer was best known for her co starring role in the hit TV musical Siri's glee. NI Rivera started as a minor character on glee. She played a high school cheerleader and a bully named Santana Lopez Santana Finn is in great shape, and your meanness only highlights your own personal insecure and Rachel. Your mustache is thicker than a Middle Eastern dictator, but against expectations antenna fell in love with another chair later, and the story of their tender romance became one of the show's most popular ark's. She is the best thing. That's been My Rivera acted out a handful of other TV shows after leaving glee in 2015 her son who's four was found safely on the boat Rivera rented before disappearing. He told authorities his mother had gone for a swim.
NIH Chief Gives Update On The Coronavirus In The U.S.
"Day, another record set across the United States 59,000 new Corona virus cases recorded yesterday, breaking the record again for a single day high for new infections, and that number capture surges in states from Texas to California, Florida to West Virginia. So where are we in the ark of the pandemic? Is there any glimmer of hope going to and how to square disconnects in the guidance coming from our political leaders and our most senior scientists? Questions we're going to put to one of our country's most senior scientists were going to spend this whole segment of the program questioning Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health, Dr Collins, Welcome back Good to speak with you again. Nice to be on your program. Mary Louise, So 59,000 new cases in one day. If I had told you back in March there February that that's where we would be as a nation in July, Would you have believed me? I would certainly have hoped not. We knew back in March and April that we had hit a terrible peak of infections, and we worked really hard across the nation to try to figure out How to flatten that curve and to bring that down, and we never really got it down. And now it's certainly headed up again in a way that is really quite alarming. I mean, hindsight always is 2020. But if there were one thing you wish we could go back and redo what would it be? You know, I think we learned what we needed to do in terms of social distancing in terms of wearing masks in terms of being very careful about public gatherings, especially indoors. But those were applied in a somewhat spotty fashion. People basically got tired of it, but the virus didn't get tired of spreading. And I'm afraid as things over the course of the last couple of months opened up. They weren't always following the CDC guidelines in the way that we would have hoped, and now we're starting to reap the consequences. And I particularly concerned that younger people feeling that maybe they're not so much a risk have felt much less likely to adhere to those guidelines. And have therefore been getting infected in larger numbers and then spreading it on to their neighbors, their families and particularly vulnerable people who we now are quite worried about to to where things might go next, Dr Anthony found. She warned last week that we could be on track to see 100,000 new cases a day. I interviewed him right after that, and he told me he dropped that number to jolt people to try to get our attention what she did. But have you seen anything in the weeks since he said it That suggests we are not heading for that outcome. Well, Dr Fauci is my colleague and I both worked at the National Institutes of Health. I'm actually his boss, although he is, of course, the most highly regarded public health spokesperson about this Outbreak. So when he speaks, people listen and well, they should. If you look at the shape of that curve and just do your extrapolation like you would in math class, you would say, having now hit just about 60,000 that there's no sign that that's topping out. And so his prediction I fear might in fact, turn out to be true, But we have things we condone about that. And that's where I'm hoping, Despite the anxiety that now spreads across the land again that we should not feel powerless that we are in a circumstance where we could try once again to flatten that curve by taking all of those recommendations about masks about social distancing about avoiding Being close together, especially indoors and see if we can do something to prevent this from going even further, obviously particularly important in places where we can see the community spread has gotten really quite out of control. Like Arizona. Ah, like California like Texas like Florida. But other places should not feel immune. The time to make those actions most effective is before you have a really widespread community problems. So I look in your own community see what's happening. If there's a hint that things were starting up again, everybody should take action. And so should the government leaders that have a chance to do something at that. Woo that to your earlier point, though, which is the guidance was out there in the spring and Individuals weren't paying attention. We got tired of it and elected officials were reopening anyway, Do you What gives you confidence that the advice that the best guidance from the CDC and another on other agencies will be heated now? Well, I guess I'm an eternal optimist. And so I will say when people are faced with reality, and you can't look at the current circumstance and not admit we've got a real problem. That perhaps this hope for sort of outcome that okay, it's summertime. And maybe this won't be such a problem. We've gotten past that. That's no longer the case. Anybody who's trying to Pretend we can just fake our way through this. We're not succeeding at that. So it's time to wake up. Look at those recommendations get serious again recognize that it's up to all of us, and we're Americans, and ultimately, we usually do the right thing. This is the right time to do that. Speaking of recommendations, I do want to ask you about schools and the debate raging over whether to reopen them. President Trump and other administrations have been downplaying the recommendations of their own health. Experts who will have seen the president tweeting that safety measures recommended by the CDC. Things like you just nodded to, like wearing masks and spacing. Student desks apart, he says. These air expensive they're impractical. Do you stand behind the CDC recommendations? I think CDC is our nation's expert group in public health, and we should take their recommendations as the recommendation we should follow. I mean, it is. It is complicated. Let's be clear if you're talking about students going back to school in Casper, Wyoming, where there are very few of any cases. That's a very different story than if you're talking about students going back to school in Houston, which is in the middle of a very serious outbreak, so blanket recommendations, saying everybody should do the same thing fly in the face of the reality of where we are with this outbreak, But CDC has recommendations to try to adjust to that. I think most of the school experts are looking at those Also worth looking at the recommendations of the American Academy of Pediatrics. Here is a very distinguished group. That is worried as I am, as we all should be about the consequences of kids not being in school. That's a serious issue. Kids are basically being harmed by the absence of social interactions, losing up all kinds of time in terms of their learning curves. We do want kids back in school where those good things can happen, but everything in life is a benefit and a risk. And the risks are going to depend a lot on where you are at this point and how much that virus is spreading around, and that just has to be factored into the decisions. Ultimately, it's gonna have to be the local authorities that make That kind of judgment. I hear you're choosing your words carefully on. I do want to ask you since since we already brought up Dr Fauci. You and he streamed an online conversation earlier this week, which I watched. It was informative. Thank you for that. It also got some buzz because a lot of journalists have been complaining that they cannot get an interview with Dr Fauci. Here's a taste of that We have not been able to get our requests for Dr Fauci approved by the Trump administration. In the last three months, high profile figures from the task force, including Dr Fauci have been unable to secure White House permission to appear on American TV networks. I just want to let you respond to that, because, as you noted, your Dr Fauci is boss to your knowledge is here. Anybody else who's message on public health conflicts with the administration's message? Are they being prevented from talking freely? I think every administration has always had an interest in making sure that people who work for the government if they're going to make a presentation to the public, that there is some consultation about that. I do that as well. When I'm going to have this Kind of a conversation like we're having right now, but I have not been canceled feelings that you can't speak to a TV network. I need to run. That invitation passed to be sure that the administration is aware of it and that they don't have any particular issues with the request. That's been the case for every administration since I've been in the government, which is 27 years. Return you to vaccines in a couple of minutes we have left this week, The government announced $1.6 billion contract to a company to manufacture a Corona virus vaccine. This company. Novavax, though, does not have a product that has been proven. Toe work, which made me think that feels like an awfully big bet to place on something unproven. Why is that the right path if you think that is the right path. Oh, I think it is the right path. Mary Louise. I think What we're trying to do here is to have a lot of potential shots on goals. This vaccine is going to be our best hope to get past this terribly difficult year of 2020 And the more that we have multiple different scientific strategies, the more likely we are that at least one and maybe several of them will work. The Novak strategy is basically to make a protein sub unit. It's different than what's happening with the other vaccines that are about to get started in the next month or two with their phase three trials. And so it is hedging their bets. It's trying as you would, I think, want to when something is a really serious issue, and you want to be sure you succeed. Make sure you've tried several things that you have a menu of opportunities that's going to cover all of the scientific basis, and Novavax brings another one. To the table, so we're glad to have them in the team. If I hear you right? It sounds like it's it's possible. This might be money thrown down the drain. But at this point we don't have something proven, and we have to work towards something. So we're goingto as you said, had hedge your bets. That's exactly right on. I think that's probably what the public would want us to do At a time like this, where I mean, if it wasn't such a rush, we might try one vaccine. And then six months later go Oh, that one wasn't quite what we wanted and then try another one. And it could be five years or more before we actually had the answer. We don't have time for that. Think the public doesn't expect us to be doing the slow boat here, so the idea is to have several of these to invest in them expect that some of those monies are actually not going to pay off. But one of them will maybe more than one will. Ultimately, I think that's what the public is expecting. And what we're trying to deliver. Speaking of operation Slow boat and not wanting to go there. We just have 30 seconds or so left. But how do you reassure people that With the speed that this operation is being developed. The whole thing is called Operation Warp speed to try to get a vaccine that it will also be safe. Well, I want to assure everybody about that The speed is being done by basically doing in parallel things that otherwise would have been done in a Siri's of steps, but every step is being carried out with rigor and intensity. Before we have to go. Let me just say anybody who's interested by the way and signing up for a vaccine trial because they're about to get under a going to give you a Uriel Carell correctness prevention network dot org's okay. Francis Collins Francis Collins, head of the National Institutes of Health, many things
Octavia E. Butler born - June 22, 1947
"June twenty, second, nineteen, forty seven. Science fiction author Octavia e Butler was born in Pasadena California. Butler addressed themes of gender sexuality and race through her speculative fiction over the course of her writing career. She received several awards, including the Hugo and Nebula awards. Butler's mother was a domestic worker in growing up Butler recognised racism and economic inequity that affected her family. By the time she was ten. She was already writing her own stories anti. She was interested in science, fiction, magazines and stories. As a young adult Butler pursuit pass besides writing and work temporary jobs, but she wrote when she wasn't working. Through the open door program at the writers guild. Butler was able to attend a class taught by science fiction author Harlan Ellison. He encouraged her to pursue writing further by attending clearing and science fiction writers workshop in Pennsylvania. Though Ellison had offered to publish one of her stories in an anthology. That anthology was never published. When she left Clarion, she began working on the novels that became part of the pattern EST series. The book in this series published by Doubleday. Nineteen, seventy six was patterned master in the book. telepathic people known as pattern EST are dominant over mute spor, non telepathic humans as well as over mutated humans call Clark's. The next two books in the series mind of my mind and survivor or published, nineteen, seventy, seven and nineteen, seventy eight. The books sold will, but she took a break from the series to right kindred. In the novel, a Black Woman named Dana travels back in time to slavery era Maryland there she meets a white ancestor, whom she has to repeatedly rescue to make sure that he survives. But her trouble, placing the book with the publisher, because it didn't fit neatly into the science fiction category, but in one thousand, nine, hundred ninety nine doubleday published kindred as fiction. The book was received well when it was published, and it became a text that students read in high schools across the US. After kindred Butler continued to publish books in the pattern master series, including wild seed and clay's Ark. Many of her characters were black women, and she explored themes like control and post colonialism in dystopia settings. In one, thousand, nine, hundred four, she won a Hugo Award for the short story speech sounds and blood child when the Nebula Hugo and locus awards. But worked on Zeno. Genesis trilogy in the late Nineteen Eighties and in the one thousand, nine, hundred ninety, she published parable of the sower and parable of the talents, which followed the protagonist Lauren Amina as she escapes a walled community in Fouls Inoue. Butler once said quote I don't write utopia science fiction because I don't believe that imperfect humans can form a perfect society. Fledgling a science fiction vampire novel published in Two Thousand Five. Was Butler's last publication. She died of a stroke in two thousand and six.
Pakistan International Airlines flight 8303 Crash Data
"Let's start first with the Pakistan International Airlines crash that crashed on Friday the day that the last podcast came out so the twenty second of May early morning our time. About midday in Karachi, the aircraft had flown from Lahore and was bound for Karachi and conducted one approach, and then attempted to go around and crashed during. That attempted go around the information. The data that we've received from the aircraft was not aid. ESP, so unfortunately, there's no bazillion information included, but we did get a lot of extended mode s data from the aircraft, so that has provided a great deal of incites, things like altitude indicated airspeed, true airspeed, vertical rates, and things like that from everything I've seen. This just didn't look good. Yes, so we the authorities and I think that the French have taken the lead on the so far have recovered both the flight data recorder in the cockpit. Voice Recorder and have taken them back to France. They transported it I believe in Eighth HR. Thirty eight hundred neo yet is an interesting little bit of information. Do it that as you will. But they transported that back to believed to loosen, they were able to successfully download the contents of both recorders. which if you've seen the pictures of those is always. that. They're able to get anything off them because they look absolutely terrible I mean they they are. They're literally designed to be crashproof at, but it's always amazing that they really are in almost every circumstance now readable, and that's no exception in this case, but the data that was pulled from the extended. Mona's painted a not so great picture. They came in fast. They came in steep. It was not a stable approach. That's what the data is telling us. We're not making any conclusions, but the initial data does not look very comforting that. I'll leave it at that. We can say that for sure. The indicated airspeed Four for the aircraft on the first approach. Did Not. Go below two hundred dots on the first approach, and only went below two hundred knots when the aircraft was already conducting its go round after the go around was initiated, the aircraft lost power in the engines, and that is what led to. The that that's the direct would directly resulted in the crash. There's evidence based on markings on the runway. The aircraft did in fact touched the runway without its gear down, but we're still waiting for all sorts of. Additional data from the flight data recorder to to really understand what happened. Obviously, this is like any crash. Investigation will take a significant amount of time. And there won't be a final report for for. We'll say a year or so, but a preliminary report should be forthcoming in. Hopefully we'll learn more there. Yup So we'll say has always say we'll keep you updated as we hear am. I believe we'll have some sort of initial fact-finding report within the next week I. Think I think that's what they've said didn't it will see what happens at that point? Interesting to know some some of the finer details, hopefully that reporters issued speaking of keeping updated on things that happened something we talked about I. Don't know how many episodes ago, but this was in twenty, eighteen, the very serious incident with a session airlines, a three nineteen, where the first officer was rather severely injured because the right windscreen. Disintegrated came out, and and the the first officer was partially sucked out of the aircraft. That's a bad day. was a very bad day. And the final report by the safety branch of the Chinese. Aviation Commission. came out this week, and so the final investigation pointed to the likely cause as a long chain. Of tiny things going wrong that led to the windscreen shattering. So there's a power supply wire that runs underneath the windscreen to to keep the windscreen. To supply power to the windscreen heaters. And there had been a gap opening up that allowed water vapor to enter the wire. You know eventually corroded because of the the water, and so there was a power. Being arked off of that and the temperature caused the. Eventual rupture of glass when that enough the pressure changes enough and the window blows out and the first officer also blows out in this particular case, a partially bows out. Yeah, so was managed to stay mostly in the aircraft. And received medical attention when when they landed will link to the report though it. Yet good luck reading it. If you don't Speak Mandarin, you might have some trouble reading. We're going to try and track down in English English translation to put showed to if possible, but will link to to report nonetheless so yeah. We've always talked about you know. It's always a chain of things. It's never just one thing that causes an accident in the certainly was another example of that.
Pop-up drive-in theater opens up at Gillette Stadium
"Have been many long touchdown drives on the few Victor let stadium now outside the stadium a drive in WBZ's James Ross with more in a temporary drive in theater next to the stadium in Foxboro the first film to play outside showcase cinema deluxe and patriot place is one of the most popular movies of all time raiders of the Lost Ark the driving is such a great way for showcase to be the first step towards welcoming movie goers back mark Milanowski VP of global marketing says all proceeds of that film or going to the Foxborough food bank this pop up drive in is also a blast from the past showcase was one of the first movie exhibitors to start drive ins and we had the sunrise drive in in nineteen thirty eight on Long Island and then through the thirties forties fifties and even early part of sixties drive ins were a big part of who we work newer films like onward and sonic the hedgehog will play the following Friday's in June check
Avianca airline seeks Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection
"Good morning well right out of the gate Colombian airline Avianca holdings filing for bankruptcy as travel restrictions continue to curtail flights in the ongoing coronavirus crisis of the ark of the big Colombian airline thank Latin America's second largest airline filing for chapter eleven protection in New York saying the filing was needed by the unforeseeable impact of the covert at nineteen the pandemic airlines around the world of course to go shooting for government rescue packages as they deplete their cash reserves as flights virtually come to a standstill ambience as CEO does not expect the flight volumes recover anywhere close to its pre corona right virus levels for about a year to year
"ark" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind
"Rogers was the the Acacia wood box about forty inches long and slightly less than thirty inches in width and depth. Not only was lined with gold leaf on the inside but overlaid with the same metal. It'll without this. According to Professor Rogers is the first step that any modern boy with a flair for electrical experimentation will take to create a Leyden Jar car and girls. Don't be discouraged there. You can create Leyden jars to also I. I never created a light. Anjar did no potato battery and that's about as far as I went towards awards creating the ARC. I never even made a potato battery. Oh but I should also say boys and girls alike if you are actually constructing a light in your do some with With proper safety precautions and adult supervision. Because they can actually be dangerous depending on their capacity but anyway moving on except that in a Leyden jar a glass receptacle is coated on the inside in the outside with tin foil instead of gold then with the aid of a rod a small knob at the top and a short chain at the bottom which is inserted through the court so that the chain make contact with the bottom of the jar. A young experimenter is ready to collect small charges of bottle. The lightning robber. Would you like to take takeover in the section subtitled a condenser of electricity. But the Ark of the covenant was a much larger condenser and thought by Professor Rogers to have been capable of collecting death-dealing breath dealing charges that divine directions called for the creation of two chairman of pure gold to be placed on gold slab or mercy seat atop the ARC. These chair them. Professor Rogers explained what he believes to have been the positive pole of the circuit similar to the knob on the top of the light in jar when he was was asked how the static charge of electricity got into the Ark. Professor Rogers admitted that there was very little accepted authority among scientists concerning the action and control all of atmospheric electricity. He explained however that it is known among physicists that a difference of potential exists between the earth in the air which may be collected in electrical trickle charges under certain favorable conditions the design of the arc at least as described in exodus undoubtedly. I love this of people writing about these these kinds of harebrained interpretations. Clearly there's no room for Discussion here that's what it was. Yeah so The article goes on to state. That Rogers believes believes the ARC could have been electrically charged by air currents created by smoke from the burning of incense and sacrifices which the Bible says often happened close is to the Ark. He also says this could charge the light arc enough to allow it to deal Fadel Bolts of electricity and he cites a Hebrew commentary tradition that states that quote the wings of the Golden Cherub not only limited fire but also an ARA known among electricity as brush glow the fire emitted by the Sheridan. MM could've been well known. Electrical arc resulting from overcharge professor Rogers believes that a number of accounts of destruction attributed by the Scriptures to the ARC might be explained. Blaine is being results of purely natural phenomena and he he gives some examples the like we talked about last time the destruction of the Philistine idol of dig on a divinity supposed to be half fish and half man and just a side note apparently that Association of the Canaanite God dig on with fish. I think that is supposed to be economic origin meaning that the the ancient Hebrews related the name of this God to the Hebrew word for fish the original Philistine interesting day gone appears to be more likely some kind of grain and fertility gods. Sorry lovecraft fan disappointment. Because of course is a part of the the lovecraft mythos host and It's one of those cool God's where you read about it there then you read about in the Bible and if you like I was if you were a high schooler who sued suddenly discovered lovecraft and then found one of these deities in the Bible as well. It was pretty awesome moment. Oh I can't help but think of the creatures of the sea is the children of Day Gone I. I'm always going to go there even knowing what I know now that he probably wasn't actually fish cod right but at the same time we do have a lot of. We've discussed some tremendous ancient fish. God's on the show before right But anyway the they tell the story in the article of this Philistine idle repeatedly getting knocked over or off of the ARC and Roger says quote if the idol had been constructed out of some poorer meddle in combination with would an electrical charge. Far Below the capacity of the ARC would have been enough to have accomplished the destruction. So I think they're saying that the art could have knocked over the the idol just by discharging electricity. I'm I'm not sure about that but okay. Yeah I I'M GONNA I try to include some art that I found on the landing page for this episode of stuff to blow your mind calm. Because there are a number of wonderful depictions like glowing arc and toppled a statue of the deity. Day Gone sometimes with a fish tale that of course is now broken because it fell over and and of course this is This kind of thing was was also referenced. In Raiders of the lost Ark again that scene where the Ark of the Covenant Burns through the Swastika. Yeah on the crate that contains it. Yeah like Like destroying another false idol. Yeah so to continue. We're getting close to the end of this article. But there's some other good stuff here so evans talks about how all all these kinds of miracles can be attributed to electricity and he talks about the tendency of people to attribute processes. They don't understand to divine intervention and and then he says thus if Moses accidentally stumbled upon the principle of the Leyden jar the device would instantly be accepted as the conveying medium of divine favor or disfavor. Sons again like a little bit too much certainty in this interpretation here but The author tells a bunch more stories of the Ark and then also points out that the Ark of the Covenant was not the only arc given sacred significance in the ancient world and he discusses ancient Egyptian. Arc's speculating that Moses could have learned about the creation of electrical arcs From the Egyptians when he was growing up in the Pharaoh's court again. That's that's a nice story but I think once again the problem is just that it's taking the biblical local source at face value. And what's more likely. Is that the biography of Moses legend but But yeah there he does point out that there are other arc like things in other other cultures around the ancient Near Eastern and the Egyptian author. Great example right but then again we have to come back to the simpler explanation and that an arc like thing is a box yeah and and therefore yes. The technology box making was very much in effect at the time right and so finally Robert you read this very last paragraph here and certainly well no historian would engage in such speculation yet. It is the right right of any man too fancy that it was in Egypt that the properties of the gold coated box were discovered by some hapless craftsman. He paid for his discovery with his life. But gave his kinsman a home for new and powerful. God Okay So. They've got a theory here. Some Egyptian craftsmen accidentally discovered how to build the Leyden Jar by building boxes and covering them with gold. And then that information was transmitted to Moses and then Moses carried the secret of how to build a Leyden Leyden Jar and that became the Ark of the covenant and thus it gives us all these stories of like people touching it and getting struck dead now. I think it would be ridiculous to say that if the arc actually existed pursuing something like it may have if it existed that it was best explained in these terms But while I don't think we need to resort to to this to explain the arc legend I don't find it implausible at all that someone in the ancient world in the ancient Mediterranean could have at some point accidentally accidentally created a capacitor. which is what a Leyden Jar is and that it could have injured or killed people and that is a really interesting thing to consider right right because not I mean not? Only of course. The accident creation of such a thing. But then the recreation such thing utilization of such a thing either as a essentially a tool of the nation uh-huh what's going to happen when I touch it like a fatal shock is a no not denying is yes that sort of thing which which a lot of ancient practices of religion and even modern practices or religion. Really boil down to that. Give me something to provide an answer for some question. I have or provide some sort of a random mansor to something That I am incapable of generating my own random answer too. Yeah and again. I think it's not hard to believe that someone could have accidentally discovered word how to build something like this Again like the discovery of the actual Leyden Jar was also accidental somewhat and frightening someone maybe we should explore that after a break. Can the weather predict to you. That's a good question. The kind lexus answers by looking at people ever notice that sometimes your cold and the next minute you're hot that's because the body's temperature is always fluctuating. And it's your brain that tells the body to constantly adjust for optimal temperature. So what if the inside of Alexis could adjust just to you like that using sixteen infrared sensors to measure your body. 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"ark" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind
"Wasn't a step to blow your mind. My name is Robert Land. And I'm Jim McCormick and we're back for our two electric blue blue. Our second exploration of a bunch of weird sort of bronze punk takes on the stories. He's of the Ark of the covenant from the Hebrew Bible Right. It's kind of perfect because this is the kind of this is kind of Hanukkah content for stuff. Blow your mind. Oh I again think about the timing. Yeah we're publishing these episodes the week of Hanukkah almost entirely by by accident But but pleasant accident I would say so. Last time. We talked about the stories about say the Philistine captivity of the Ark of the covenant. And the Marauders and what all that meant but there is another aspect to the Ark of God story the Tends to tempt people into the techno mythology realm not only was the arc said to bring vast destructions and Plagues of Murad. There are also these Bible stories. Tell of the ARC lashing out with blasts of power that kill offenders in an instant And so there are a couple of examples. One is the story we just told about errands. Two sons we don't get a whole lot of details but it seems like errands. Two sons entered the presence of the ARC with some kind of strange inch fire. Essentially the IT sounds like they were not doing the rituals of the Tabernacle as they had been commanded. They're doing something incorrect. Fun Fact Act. I actually traveled home and attended a Sunday school class at my mom's church recently and this was the passage they were discussing really well in the last episode. I thought we were talking about how they almost never bring these stories up in Sunday school at least when we were kid I saw a great example of why it's it's kind of difficult culture folks to have a like a casual real life Oriented conversation about a passage like this about the strange fire of the Lord which apparently sometimes translated it is alien. Fire Alien Fire. They brought alien fire in the sensors before the Lord and the Lord did not like it and he lashed out instruct them dead. Yeah Consumed them with fire from the mercy seat now before we get into the the bronze punk discussions today. We should tell at least one more story of this kind about the story of Ouza. Aw so remember how the Ark was taken to the land of the Philistines. That's one of the stories in the Bible about it. The the Philistines there's a battle and the Philistines take the Ark and they they they put it in the Temple of Day gone until the ARC messes them up and topples the statue of the God Dagan and eventually the Philistines repenteth and the Israelites. Get the ARC back. So when the Israelites under King David Our they're bringing the arc back to their land We get to this passage quote. They place the the Ark of God on a new car that they might bring it from the House of a DAB which was on the hill and Ouza an audio. The Sons of have been a DAB were leading the new cart. So they brought it with the Ark of God from the House of Bene- DAB which was on the hill and audio was walking ahead of the ARC. Meanwhile David and all the House of Israel we're celebrating before the Lord with all kinds of instruments made of for would with Liars Harps tambourines Castaneda symbols but when they came to the threshing floor of Nikon Ouza reached out toward the Ark of God and took hold of it for the oxen nearly upset it and the anger of the Lord burned earned against USA and God struck him down there for this irreverence and he died there by the Ark of God. And then there's a story that apparently this place comes to be named What roughly translates to the breakthrough of Ouza or the bursting out at USA as we discussed at length in the last episode? Oh you look at any of these stories of the Ark of the Covenant or if you look at of course the the classic film Raiders of the Lost Ark. You see great depictions of this general fact that the Ark of the Covenant is considered a dangerous item in the stories about it it is it is a thing that that manifest the presence in the voice of God and and therefore there are a lot of dangers associated with misuse. Even even touching it will even even well meaning touching the idea here is that USA wasn't I'm trying to do a blasphemy to the Ark. He just reached out to keep it from falling over because the oxen were getting old tip around and so the arc might have fallen on the ground. He reached to steady it and that was enough. That got him struck dead so anyway. I think as with the stories that we discussed last time the most fruitful way of understanding ending these stories is that they are legendary narratives not based on actual events but rather to communicate values by telling a story in this case. I think one one of the values that primary here is that the commands of the Lord or to be taken very seriously and that even deviating from God's commands in an accidental or well-meaning meaning way can be met with extremely harsh consequences like Aaron sons. They screw up the rights of the Tabernacle by offering alien fire. They burn something in the Sensor in away. They weren't supposed to and they get burned up themselves. Ouza touches the arc even meaning well just to prevent it from falling over and he it's blasted dead. I think the lesson is pretty clear. Clear right yeah. It's like it's basic dragons lesson as well. Yeah there is a high level magical item in your presence and don't touch it. Don't don't don't don't do anything anything until you've at least cast a few provisional spells to see what's happening right is be very careful with the commands of God. Do do everything you're told. But in the last episode we discussed the concept of this historical Herman Indyk. We're calling bronze punk the desire to of modern interpreters with with a little knowledge about science and technology under their belt to look back at legends. Like this assume that maybe they're based on some kind of actual event whether indirectly or in some exaggerated form and instead of assuming a magical explanation for the event behind the story postulates some kind of lost world of advanced. It's technology hidden in the dust. Storms of history. which again is of course risky because this is the place where history and mythology can converge right? So it's difficult Michael to really lean too heavily on anything that is described in these stories but at the same time. We can't help but do it. The great example from the last episode was was looking at the The plague of mice and tumors are Murad in trying to figure out. Well is this play. Is that what it is that what's being described here. That's one of the ways in which the the bronze punk While not usually a good method of explaining the origins of these legendary tales and myths it does open up some interesting things to consider about the ancient world. Like one of the things we talked about in the last episode was okay. It probably does not make sense to say that the legends ends of the ARC are caused by actually being some ancient bio weapon. But could there have been by weapons in the ancient world. was there germ warfare fair before people had a germ theory of disease and we decided you know it does seem like it's possible that that happened. And there's even some evidence of specific cases where it looks like it happened. Maybe maybe not in this case and for our purposes here on the show. It's also a just a great excuse to talk about some of these things in at the end of the episode at the end of this episode is well. We're probably going to say you know. I don't think we should really put a lot of faith in this particular idea but it does force us to ask questions about about the the inner workings the world in ancient times applying. What we know about science today and sort of unwrapping it through an analysis of the past will? There's an interesting question that's GonNa come out of today's this episode about what causes major breakthroughs in the progress of science in history. So we'll get back to that toward the end of the episode so last time we talked about the idea could have been a weapon of germ warfare. That's unlikely but it is fun to consider We talked about the pretty much impossible idea that it was. A bearer of some sort of radiation hazard underwrites has been popular with people like Eric Von Daniken and I don't know about him specifically some of those ancient alien anytime where you're like. Oh there's some sort of crazy piece of technology it's a nuclear earlier reactor or something And then we've talked about the psychology of artifacts like the ARC being a focal point for worship and how that affects the altered states of consciousness. The mind and and so forth but today we wanted to explore another very strange bronze punk rabbit trail that many many authors have taken over the years to explain stories like errands two to sons in the story of USA These people who are struck dead in the presence of the Ark and that is the idea of the electric arc. Yes this is. This is a pretty fabulous notion because it doesn't really it doesn't depend on aliens it doesn't depend on in a You know alternative view of the evolution of consciousness. Sir Anything it basically just depends basically ask questions about like what were the. What was the knowledge of electricity at the time? And what were the Capabilities and material capabilities in many cases to construct a primitive device. I would like to read with some abridgement from an article. Kohl published in the Chicago Daily Tribune March Fifth Nineteen thirty three by the Reverend John. Evans called scientists. Says sacred box was condenser Robert. Will you help me read some sections from this certainly. Would you like to take the beginning here I shall. It was a charge of some ten thousand volts of static electricity and not the wrath of God that killed when he touched the Ark of the covenant. Such at least. The scientific conjecture of Dean Frederick Rodgers offers of the Department of Engineering Lewis Institute of Technology concerning the mysterious powers of the ARC which was not only an object of reverence to the Israelites but also also a troublesome possession right so the article goes on to tell the story of Ouza as we told before the are goes unsteady oxen are about to knock it over he he touches it he gets struck. Dead and Evans writes quote. Professor Rogers made a study of the construction of the ARC and discovered its design called for a perfectly constructed simple electric condenser or light in jar and then the article also goes on to tell the story of the construction of the Ark of the Covenant when we talked about that in the last episode but basically design specifications are. It's a big wooden box with gold on the inside and the outside and I just any would ship them would right right. Yeah it's Which I believe is supposed to be the ACACIA tree? ACACIA would They called it should him would. And it's got gold on the inside gold on the outside and then these gold old Representative figures of Cherub on the top. So going back to the article. The scientific interest in the construction pointed out by professor. Rogers was the the Acacia wood box about forty inches long and slightly less than thirty inches in width and depth. Not only was lined with gold leaf on the inside but overlaid.
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"I think that's that's entirely plausible and there's a lot about reading eating at least about ancient religious practices that seems to indicate that that may be true because there is there is a lot of listening to the voices of the Gods seeking the voices of the gods any any. We still see it reflected in our hymns and prayers that are said every day asking to hear some voice even though we do not hear the voice the voice does not actually speak to us in our minds. Yeah and so yeah I think. Even if the the main part of US hypothesis the idea of you know the development element of consciousness in these different stages. If that's completely wrong he could have been on on the right track looking at all. These ancient examples of the Almost ubiquitous bick witness religious visions and hallucinations in ancient worship. Right now James's ultimate argument. was that modern. Consciousness who has learned development aren't tied to metaphorical language and that In this change wouldn't occurred all at once then it would have been something that spread and it wouldn't have affected like everybody within a in a given town wants. It wouldn't be like everybody. You got the the new consciousness shot. We're all good to go. You would have had a lot of confusion. A lot of bit of chaos the voices of the Gods. They grow fainter but then they can be reached again via various practices like essentially was becoming harder to hallucinate. Right now James Did mention the are specifically in his original book he said Quote Poetry then was divine knowledge and after the breakdown of the bicameral mine poetry was the the sound and tenor of authorization. Poetry commanded where pros could only ask. It felt good in the wanderings of the Hebrews after the exodus from Egypt it was the sacred shrine that was carried before the multitude and followed by the people but it was also the poetry of Moses that determined when they would start and win. Stop where they would go anywhere. Stay and this is of course referring to the fact that the Moses would speak to through the arc it authorized his decision making so Jane's didn't really get into the Ark all that much in the book oriented other papers of his that. I've seen it's possible. I'm missing something because I haven't read everything that James wrote But I did run across some Some writings by Brian. J McVeigh a scholar of Asia specializing in Japan and he also studied under Julian. James is a graduate student and he discussed This bit in his paper Biblical evidence of bicameral mentality vestiges of Super Religiosity in the Old Testament And he discussed how they could have functioned as an object of hallucinatory focus or oh H F and portable. When at that for the ancient Hebrews says they wandered the desert and wandered out of the bicameral mindset so This is his quote from the paper describing. What an O H F is quote owed Hallucinatory AIDS broadcast instructions? Commandments warnings speaking idols. Living statues effigies treated as if alive fed paraded taken aken on journeys and into battles these emitted holy power and authorized decision making in some cases portable. Hf were used Example being the Israelites Lights are of the Covenant. Yeah that's interesting. I mean again as I said a minute ago. You don't really have to accept the the bicameral framework for for consciousness consciousness and the the origin of these hallucinations. In order to think well maybe that they're they're just physical objects that aid the mind in having religious visions or religious experiences much in the in the Like in the example of induction like we were talking about earlier with the object of focus in they say a Hindu or buddhist meditation. Yeah exactly the bicameral explanation a fascinating as it is. It's not completely necessary for understanding why individuals would carry around a sacred item carried into battle and also use it in their rituals. Isn't it so interesting. The way religions around the world so many of them have what you might call scene setting all these Oldest Paraphernalia Turfan Alia the like different clothing difference sights and smells physical objects to hold or be in the presence of to look at smoke You know Washing of the body. Like all these different things that are in order to get you into a different mind mind state than you are the rest of your life. You're out walking around getting your groceries going to work doing your stuff but when you enter a religious space you have to go through a process and surround yourself with things that put you in a different state of mind and the seems to be core to to not every version of religion around the world but a whole lot of them. Oh Yeah I mean if it's not a particular icon representation because certainly there are religions that that frown upon upon that and picketing individuals or deities etc.. There's still is often a focus on architecture space. Oh yeah exactly like in Islami exa- generally generally not gonNa have representative art. But you do have a lot of attention to the creation of a sacred feeling environment You know the interior architecture of many mosques around the world is is beautiful and it puts you in a different mind state are I will. Hopefully we've put everybody in a different mind state today as we discussed the Ark of the covenant even and. Hey here's the fun part. We're not done. There's going to be another episode on the Ark of the Covenant Looking at a particular idea the idea that okay what if off the Ark of the Covenant was machine. I'm going to give a spoiler. We don't think it was a machine but there that does lead us down some other interesting paths that it'll be a lot of fun to explore right. In the meantime you can check out all the episodes stuff to blow your mind at stuff to blow your mind dot com. That's the mothership. That's we will find them all. Oh that's we'll find links out to our social media accounts including the discussion module page that I mentioned earlier. Obviously we'd love to hear from everybody about the Ark of the Covenant and your thoughts on it crazy theories you've read about it. Your thoughts on raiders of the lost Ark All of it is fair game huge. Thanks as always excellent audio producers Alex Williams entire Harrison. 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"Infection leads to a cough chest pain difficulty difficulty breathing and can definitely be deadly tool arenas actually often known to kill off large numbers of rabbits which has led to it being commonly known as rabbit fever her and especially without modern medical intervention primarily antibiotics it can be fatal to humans so it is a deadly dangerous disease. Travis Sonata says is that after the outbreak of this plague. Hit the finish in city of Samira. The hittites also known as the sites attacked the area and looted. So you've got the city weakened by disease. He's the hittites say. Hey some free stuff so they run in. They attacked the city and they looted it taking along. Livestock among the mini spoils four. But soon after they returned. The hittite. Raiders were hit with an outbreak of disease that Trevor Sano Trajano also thinks was to Larry Mia and this would would make sense because they brought the livestock. The animal hosts were ARC's if you will for the bacteria then while the hittites were weakened with this Sepanek another people known as the Arza ones attacked them then. Trevor Sinato writes that there are historical records indicate strange incidents in win wondering rams appeared Arsala. And the ours Owens. Of course Wouldn't pass up free livestock so they incorporated these rams into their flocks. But then they they were hit with the Disease Probably Tula Ramia and Trevor Sinato also mentions a story that there was. This leader called hazardous. Who was struck by via divine thunderbolt in the knee? Disabling him quote a ruler infected with the plague and symptoms there of being observed in the knees or in a region euphemistically committee and or puritanical described as the knees fit the metaphor. Oh this is the idea where like if an individual is wounded in the in the groin they describe describe as the knee instead or like the foot too often in the Bible the use of the word foot is clearly a euphemism for the genitals. Okay so so. Here's Trevor Sonatas hypothesis. It's the hittites who had experience with this epidemic deliberately planted disease carrying rams among their enemies. He's in order to deliberately spread. The rabbit fever the to leukemia and weaken those enemies. And if that's true it seems like it worked the the ours. Owens were unable to to defeat the hittites after the fever hit them. And we've got historical records that the hittite King wished plague upon the ones and that there was this hittite scapegoat ritual in which a Ram and female attendant were sent out on the road spreading disease where they went toe. So we don't have direct evidence that the hittites knew exactly what they were doing. You know that they knew they were spreading disease or that. They understood how the spread of disease was happening. So while the evidence for this is very interesting interesting I would not say it's a proven case of germ warfare and that it doesn't seem like this has become accepted theory about what happened in this case but it does seem like a very promising hypothesis USCIS but despite not having germ theory of disease. I think it's certainly feasible. That ancient peoples could work out basic principles of epidemic transmission such as the infected or maybe cursed animals would spread the disease to people that came in contact with and using this basic knowledge. It's possible that ancient mm people's could have deliberately spread diseases among their enemies and it's clear that later armies with not much more scientific understanding than the ancient peoples had did this. Yes yeah indeed. I mean two of them. The the most Probably famous examples of this would be throwing dead things. Be The animals. Our soldiers over the walls into the besieged city. More throw in that kind of stuff down a well to try and destroy poison an enemies drinking water. Yeah so I just wanted to mention a few examples that are cited in a paper called the history of biological warfare by Friedrich Frischnecht and this these would be before the germ theory of disease. But he mentioned that in eleven fifty five emperor Barbarossa poisons water wells with human bodies in Italy in thirteen forty six. The Mongols catapulted bodies of plague-victims over the city walls of coffee in the Crimea Crimean Peninsula and in fourteen ninety five. The Spanish mixed wine with blood of leprosy patients to sell all to their French enemies little Naples quite a cocktail so while I would absolutely say that we do not need to resort to explanations like at this to explain the origins of these stories at the same time. I think it's fascinating and highly plausible. That there could have been cases where ancient people's used biological or germ based weapons to hurt their enemies. Like you can imagine a vessel or container as some kind of Biological Trojan horse tricking enemies into taking home some disease vector within. What if you you get people to steal your arc and it's actually a boxful of rabbit but corpses covered in to Larry Metex? Yeah I just I would assume they'd look inside it before they take it home. I mean that's just like this is common sense. Well maybe you make a crafty woman with legs hidden containers compartment stuff on the BI hidden compartments. With great for the ticks to get out you can you can get really creative with this. Is there there no instructions about that though in the biblical account. It's true there are not. I'm again but I'm not saying that this actually happened in explains the story. I don't think you go there are. We're GONNA take one more break when we come back. We'll talk a little bit about radiation and the idea of the ARC being indeed aradio for.
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"Su Or see do in these were the female and male respectively benevolent demons in ancient Syria. And Babylon they would protect palaces and temples and they were often depicted as winged bulls or lions with human heads and they mostly Lee remained invisible and were assigned in the manner of Guardian Angels to protect an individual human from the evil teuku there are some amazing carvings. Things of these in the met in the Metropolitan Museum of art I believe from the Palace of the Assyrian King Asher ben and Paul the second raining out the palace. But I think commissioned by that King and they are fearsome and wonderful to behold yes they are end to come back to raiders of the lost Ark. These are of course. Presumably the the entities we you see flying around after the Nazis Open the Ark of the covenant that the end of the film the chairman. Yeah yeah because I like Like women sort of beautiful ghost women and then of course the face changes and it becomes this kind of snarling skeletal lion type face and then of course it's death for all who View you the ARC. Now for a for an artifact that has come to be imbued with so much mystery Retrospectively the the Bible. Oh actually does just straightforwardly explained how to build the Ark. Light Minute specifications on what you're supposed to do to make one. Yeah it also it. It almost makes you wonder like what's the big deal about losing it because clearly you have. You have a strict set of instructions on how to build another one. I mean I think there were just like magical beliefs about the sacredness of what it contained. Oh yes certainly but ultimately is the thing right. The art is a container of fancy container. Perhaps even a holy container hainer approaching without worldview but just a container for other otherwise Holy Relics that is one thing that I think makes it very fascinating and kind of unique and there probably some other great artifacts like this but fascinating in that it is this artifact with all the significance but it is essentially just a vessel for for other things. It's a container. It's not a statue. What should we read the instructions from Exodus? Twenty five in case anyone wants to build along as we as we do the podcast. Let's let's build it all right. Get Your Cuban ruler ready and they shall make an arc of shit him would to cubits and a half shelby the link thereof and a Cuban Hubadoo a half the breadth thereof and Cuban and a half the height thereof and thou shalt overlay it with pure gold within without Shalt Thou overlaid and Shelton make upon it a crown of gold around about and thou shalt cast four rings of gold for it and put them in the four corners thereof and to ring. She'll be in the one inside of it. And to rings in the other side of it and thou shalt makes staves of shit him would and overlay them with gold and thou shalt put the staves into the rings by the sides of the arc the arc may be born with them the staves. She'll be in the rings of the ARC. They shall not be taken from it now. I want to jump in here and say let's say this it's exactly the kind of description of the ARC. That is disappointing when you're a child. You've seen raiders and then you want to read about in the Bible you just find this this kind of boring description description of how to build one. Oh there are better stories Murad. We're going to get to some more later. Well this description de is about to get a lot more interesting and certainly will tie into into some stuff we're going to discuss later in thou shalt put into the arc the testimony which I shall give the and now shall make a mercy seat of pure gold to Cuba Cuba and a half shelby the link there off and the Cuban and a half the breath thereof and thou shalt make to chair them's of gold of beaten work Shalt Thou make them in the two ends of the mercy seat and make one Cherub on the one end and the other Cherub on the other end even of the mercy seat. Shall he make the Cherry bombs on the two ends thereof to under the words make the yes Cherub's face each other on the ends of the mercy believe space because it's space is important okay anyway continues. He's and the chair shall stretch their wings on high covering the mercy seat with their wings and their faces. Show look one to another toward the mercy. Seat shall all the faces of the chairman's beat and Dow shout put the mercy seat above upon the Ark and in the arc thou shalt put the testimony that I shall give the and there I will meet with the and I will commune with the from above the mercy seat from between the two Cherub hymns which are upon the arc of the testimony. Any of all things which I will give the in commandment onto the children of Israel. Okay so this thing is a container as we've been saying but it's also a chair and it's a chair for God himself right. The ideas that M- that mercy seat is where God is going to manifest manifest It sounds from the instructions like there is going to be a presence of the Lord there and and Moses and perhaps some other priests Whoever is in charge is authorized to do so? We'll actually commune with God. It is in the words of belloc. A radio for speaking to God transmitter submitter. But it's really more like a video phone than than just a transmitter right. Yeah it's like facetime on that note let's take a quick break when we comeback We'll discuss the story of the ARC because that too will be important as we get into some of these scientific ideas regarding the ARC..
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"The musical Damn Yankees opened on Broadway in nineteen fifty five and ran for over a thousand performances it was the irresistible dancer Gwen Verdon first starring role and she would win. Tony the choreographer for Damn Yankees was Bob Fosse who had appeared appeared in several movie musicals and had only the year before made his Broadway debut as a choreographer in the Pajama game which also ran for over a thousand performances Fosse's scintillating choreography for the song steam heat became a dance landmark the songs for both the Pajama game and Damn Yankees were by the same songwriting team Richard Adler and Jerry Ross whose hit songs longs for these shows included. Hey there Hernandez hideaway you gotta have heart and whatever Lola wants Adler Ross were on their way to becoming Broadway's next rogers and Hammerstein but tragically Ross died of a lung ailment at the age of twenty twenty nine. Damn Yankees is the story of a middle aged baseball fan named Joe who sells his soul to the devil to become A. I'm great young player who can help his team. The Washington senators win the championship but when Joe Misses his wife and once out of the agreement the devil sends in Lola Gwen Verdon of course whose motto is whatever Lola wants. It's lola gets but instead of seducing Joe she falls in love with him. Most of the original Broadway cast joined Verdon in the film. The Broadway's original Joe was replaced by TEEN IDOL TAB HUNTER WHO's not much of an actor here her although his sincerity is touching verdins comic Spanish accent and cartoonish Fosse strip-tease make the song more a parody of a seduction unlike the smoky hit recording made by Sarah Vaughan. Here's Gwen Verdon in the movie long aw little man does all and once you make up your mind to have no correct recline yourself resign yourself yours through kyle was the devil called. Mr Applegate is played by the sly Ray Walston probably best known for playing the title role role in the sixties TV show my favorite Martian in the movie as in the show his big solo is a parody of an old time mm-hmm Vaudeville number. Those were the good old days in which he celebrates some of the world's worst atrocities. I see Cannibal Munchkin on missionary though years may have flown the memories stay like the hopes that were when the stock market trash those that gone all day. I'd walk a million some of my good.
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"I found myself grounded for the first time in my life stayed home for a year while she went through Chemo and radiation. We had three kids at home. The youngest one just turned two. I I hadn't even changed a diaper on that kid. I was not a great father. I mean loving father but not home very much and so all sudden I was home grounded and I just thought okay well she going to make it thought about that mostly. Are we going to lose our house because I can't go out and shoot anymore for the magazine and I thought about what we would do and then it became apparent. She was getting better. The Chemo was working and it's been twelve years now and she's fine but in those days when when things were going doing real good and we were on our way back out of the darkness I would walk around the House Kinda by myself when our youngest sleeping and just look at the walls and I had a lot of prince of Audubon Work John James Audubon birds and mammals some of which are extinct now in birds and he was he was a great painter but he was also a great naturalist and he gave us are only descriptions of what these animals would act like how they behave these these birds that are extinct and I thought wow that guy gave his full measure of devotion. He worked his entire life to to bring us this and stood through time and then I had a book in My Library on Edward Curtis this shadow catcher that I hadn't looked at and so I looked at that you know he he gave his full measure devotion. I guess entire life to documenting the customs the ways of dress housing religious ceremonies everything native Americans is he. He felt very strongly. That European settlement was gonNA alter their way life significantly so he spent thirty years just working on that one thing and I thought you know what these magazines stories come and go in a month but if I could create a project that would stick stick. That'd be cool. That's how it started you know and and I'm common obsessive guy and you know maybe not the most talented but but certainly energetic and so here we are today sixty five hundred species and I'm talking to Terry Gross on fresh air. They did it give you pause at all though knowing that this project that you design for yourself after wife had cancer will take you away from her on your children for long periods of time because traveling to zoos around the world to wildlife rehab centers around the world yeah that's that's kind of a drag egg. I mean life's flying by. Every year seems to get busier but if it's a choice between photographing an animal that's the very last one in captivity city and there are none left in the wild. I don't have a choice this is the only channels are ever going to be heard the time their voice will ever be heard is through this project project and me and my family understands it just how it is once in a while. They'll go with me but you know they need the break to Terry. Oh Oh I can see why they don't mind if I'm gone sometimes. They asked me when I'm gone again. We'll just it's really been great to talk with you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much really enjoyed it Joel Sartori speaking to terry gross in twenty seventeen. He's a photographer for National Geographic attempting to document all all of the world's creatures in an ongoing project he calls the photo arc when he spoke to take two years ago he had photographed some sixty five hundred species since stat interview that number has climbed almost ten thousand his newest book in the photo arc series titled Vanishing came out this month coming up Lloyd Lloyd Schwartz reviews the DVD reissue of the nineteen fifty-eight movie musical Damn Yankees this is fresh air support for this podcast and the following message come from Retro Report on PBS The new weekly one hour newsmagazine series join hosts Celeste Headley and Masud funny as they offer a fresh perspective on on today's headlines by revealing their little known and often surprising connections to the past each hour closes with a dose of humor from the New Yorker commentator Andy Borowitz Laura wits retro report on PBS premieres Monday October seventh at nine eight central on PBS hi there I'm Felix Culpa data's host of NPR music's all Latino Latino buying gas every for many people around the country celebrate Latino heritage month and why we liked to say every month is a heritage month program we still like to do something extra special intrigued listen and subscribe to outlet dino from NPR and join the fun earlier this year an Emmy nominated TV miniseries drama called Fossey Verdon I told the story of the complicated personal and working relationship of to Broadway Legends Choreographer Bob Fosse and dancer when Verdon Sam Rockwell Doc well-played Fosse and Michelle Williams who just won an emmy for her role played verdon in real life the actual fosse and Verdon I collaborated on the nineteen one thousand nine hundred thousand five musical Damn Yankees and Warner Archive has reissued the DVD of the movie version are classical music critic. Lloyd Schwartz has has a review now. Listen to me. This game of baseball is only one half skill the other half of something else. Something bigger you only need is when the Audra saying you'll never win. That's when the grim shoots.
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"Ark Brunetti says his brain designs or neither calling them thought provoking instead on Monday. The supreme court will hear his challenge to part of a federal law that says officials should refuse to registered trademarks that are scandalous or immoral Brunetti says it should be struck down as unconstitutional restriction on speech tests, about ETA KFI news Facebook, so that it spent more than twenty two and a half million dollars on security for CEO, Mark Zuckerberg twenty eighteen and is more than twice as much with the social media giant spent the year before for that. So I could Burke himself draws a salary of one dollar a year. Delta Airlines is testing out giving passengers more personal space downsize, reducing the amount seats can recline on its fleet of sixty two Airbus a-3 twenty jets the amount of recline of coach seats will go from four inches to two inches recline. A first class seats will be produced from five point five inches to three point five inches fell. To says, it has no plans to add seats or reduce space between rose. A delta spokeswoman says. Change is part of dances continued efforts to make the inflight experience more enjoyable and multitasking easier. The change rolls out this weekend. Go see a Rivera KFI news. The White House has begun a new review of a proposal to bus illegal immigrants to sanctuary cities. The White House dismissed the proposal on Friday. But then the president said he likes the idea house. Homeland security chairman Mississippi democrat Bennie Thompson says it Trump is using drama and far fetched ideas as a distraction what we have now is a constant push of the system. So that it doesn't work. Why now says the relocation plan could be a win for both parties. Some immigration advocates say moving migrants to sanctuary cities could be a good way to help them get settled in the country. President Trump's reelection campaign is told AP now it will report raising more than thirty million dollars in the first quarter of twenty nine thousand nine that is lightly more than his two top democratic rivals combined. According to the Trump campaign nearly ninety nine percent of donations were two hundred dollars or less. The average donation pegged at thirty four dollars twenty six cents. A woman in Georgia says a couple of leaks around our house, but there's no way the leaks were this bad. See got a water Bill into called county for twenty three thousand sixty three dollars in one penny..
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"Doctor auto new stutter in one thousand nine hundred forty considered that the swellings described here might be possible it might possibly be due to syphilis infection which. The Philistines would contracted syphilis from the ark of the covenant or again that an outbreak of syphilis lined up with the presence of the arc or was attributed to the presence of the of the arc in some fashion. Is there anything that syphilis doesn't explain? I mean, we go back to our earlier discussions of syphilis on this this podcast, it it seems like you can pretty much scrubbed just about everything. The only thing is you probably get into a an argument about wind syphilis would have impacted given region. No by that. I didn't mean that syphilis is a good explanation for everything. I just people have tried it on everything it's like every powerful force in human history for sure every historical event has a syphilis hypothesis as we'll come up repeatedly in this episode. It's not necessary to invoke bronze punk biowarfare explanations to justify legends of the arc. But it is certainly I think plausible that forms of biological warfare. Were practiced in the ancient world that who knows that the ancient the ancient Hebrews or or any of the other peoples of the time period could have figured out how to do germ warfare and could've used it. And in fact, we have some pretty interesting evidence that it did actually happen at least in one case in the second millennium BC. That's right. We're talking about the Hittite so Asia Minor going back to what fifteen hundred BC around then. So I think the fourteenth century BC. So there was an epidemic at the time in the fourteenth century BC known to historians as the Hittite plague that spread throughout the Middle East and historical records of this pestilence. Appearing correspondence still a to the option Phero cannot in from around thirteen thirty five BC, and they say that there's a horrible plague that spread throughout the land. It's affecting some Venetian cities. And there was a fear that it was being spread by donkey's, which led to them barring people from infected cities from coming into other cities and from preventing donkeys from being used in traveling caravans. And so there is a paper. I wanted to talk about published in medical hypotheses in two thousand seven by a micro biologist named Ciro EG. No, Travis sonata. Called the Hittite plague an epidemic of Tula Ramia and the first record biological warfare. And this is a really interesting I bought this. So Trivisonno believes that the evidence indicates that the Hittite plague was in fact, an epidemic of Tula Ramia, which is a bacterial infection caused by the bacterium Francis. Sela to rinses to Laurie Mia kin spread between animals and humans. So it's a potentially zoonotic infection and it can spread via several routes including tick bites and by just direct contact or inhalation of infected aerosols, it has different symptoms depending on the route of transmission, including high fever and ulcers and swelling of the lymph glands in the pneumonic version of this infection leads to a cough. Chest, pain difficulty breathing. Incandescently? Be deadly tool arenas, actually, often known to kill off large numbers of rabbits, which has led to it. Being commonly known as rabbit fever into specially with. About modern medical intervention, primarily antibiotics it can be fatal to humans. So it is a deadly dangerous disease. Travis Sinato says that after the outbreak of this plague hit the Phoenician city of semi-rural, the Hittites also known as the nesh I'ts attacked the area and looted. So you bet the city weakened by disease. The Hittites say, hey, some free stuff. So they run in the tact the city, and they loot it taking along livestock among the mini spoils of war. But soon after they returned the Hittite raiders were hit with an outbreak of disease that Trevor sano Travis auto also things was to Llerena, and this would make sense because they brought the livestock the animal hosts were ARC's if you will for the bacteria, then while the Hittites were weakened with this epidemic. Another people known as the ours. Owens attacked them. Then Trevor sonata writes that their historical records indicate strange incidents in win like wondering ram. Appeared in ours. Alwa- and the ours Owens, of course, wouldn't pass up free livestock. So they incorporated these Rams into their flocks..
"ark" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind
"All right. We're back. All right. So if the ark was actually built about when do we think that would have happened? It would have been about three thousand years ago. And we've seen the instructions in the bible where they believed God had sent his people, you know, the detail plans on how to make the ark. But what do they do with it? Once they've got it. Well after they've they've built it. They carry it around with him. And they use it as the central part of their religious observations. I mean, it's essentially a mobile altarpiece, right? I mean, it's it's it's temple that you can pick up and move. Think back again to that part about the mercy seat. This is the point from which God's speaks to the children of Israel. And if raiders is any indication, it's also from whence he sends out his smiling laser beams of holy Nazi frying death. Now, the wording here is interesting because it is the and I'm possibly butchering this, of course, but the hawk copper et in coffer. This key K P H A R means to cover, but copper wrath means a thing of wiping out or cleansing. So they carry it a bit before them when the during the exodus, and it was said to clear impediments and poisonous animals in their path. And it was even said to stop the flow of the river, Jordan. So they could cross into the promised land. But it was also conceived of as kind of a magical weapon of war, right? Yeah. They marched with it at the siege of Jericho. Of course, you know, they were blowing those trumpets, but still the ark was there, and is there blowing trumpets eventually the walls. Come. Tumbling down. But then in five ninety seven and five ninety six the Babylonian empire conquer the Israelites. And the ark was supposedly taken from the temple in Jerusalem and from there advantages from history. So if it did indeed exist as as to some degree as the stories are told this is where it stops. We don't know what happens after this. Right. This is this is where it becomes the lost. Now as with any bible artifact of any significance. I would bet that there are some people out there who claim to have found it. Yes. And but but before we touch on those I do want to point out. Just a wonderful fragment of a quote here came to came to us from National Geographic Society, fellow Fred hybrid. He told the website National Geographic that it's not really something that you can go after you can't really search for the arc because the arc exists at quote, the crossroads between myth and reality. Yeah. And I think that's that's essential to keep in mind for the. Entirety of this episode in the next. Well, I would say, for example, I think the arc probably has a better chance of being in some way based on a real historical artifact than something. Like Noah's ark. Right. But people constantly go looking for Noah's ark. And every time they go looking they find it. Well, here's some would on a mountain in Turkey here. It is right in likewise. The arc is a simply essentially just would and gold, and is not is even less of a feat to build like we have the instructions you could if you had the materials you could build one today. So even if we were uncovered an arc candidate. It's not really possible to tell though is you have the ark of the covenant. Right. I mean, there could probably be multiple are exempt. They're saying that they're the arc. Yeah. I mean, they're in. There have been cases where the where archaeologists have found something that is like an arc a box that has perhaps excited a few people here and there, but ultimately, I you know, doesn't pan out. I mean, I suppose if you had a strong candidate, you could do carbon dating on the on the relic, perhaps the the would especially if there are any remnants of the wood remaining to at least know if it's old enough to know it's old enough. But again, it could just be another box from that time period. That being said some of the possible final resting places for the arc include as already alluded to Saint Mary of Zion cathedral in Oxfam. Under the care of the opium orthodox to ahead church and more specifically under the care of a single caretaker who alone gets to see the arc naturally. That means no one gets to verify what they actually have..
"ark" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind
"In the hierarchy of angels. And their descriptions include or tend to include the form, the lion the form of a man the form of an eagle or any hybrid of these forms. I've actually seen it described that they sometimes a representatives having four faces. Yes. And the the four faces would include the lion to represent the beasts of the wild. The the man represent the world of humans. I think in oxen face to represent the world of domesticated animals and then an eagle face to represent the world of birds, which I guess are somehow different than wild animals. Yeah. These depictions of of the chairs often look kinda like emblems right with like folds of multiple wings. Things and haloed heads of these creatures in a human poking out. Now, according to Carol rose folklorist who I frequently site on the show in her book spirits, varies leprechauns, and goblins and encyclopedia. Hebrew, religious writings state that images of terrorism guarded the ark of the covenant as well. As Solomon's temple in their divine. Messengers attending spirits in disseminators of knowledge. Now, it's possible rose points out that of him are derived from the Assyrian Lama SU or see do in these were the female and male respectively benevolent demons in ancient Assyria and Babylon. They would've protected palaces and temples, and they were often depicted as winged bulls or lions with human heads, and they mostly remained invisible. And we were assigned in the manner of guardian angels to protect an individual human from the evil to coup. There are some amazing carvings of these in the met in the metropolitan. Museum of art. I believe from the palace of the Assyrian king, Asher Benepe, all the second ramming the palace. But I think commissioned by that king and the their fearsome and wonderful to behold, yes, they are and to come back to raiders of the lost ark. These are, of course, presumably the entities we see flying around after the Nazis open the ark of the covenant that the end of the film, the chairman. Yeah. Because I thought it was like women, you know, sort of beautiful ghost women. And then, of course, the face changes, and it becomes this kind of snarling skeletal lion type face. And then, of course, it's death for all who view the arc now for a for an artifact that has come to be imbued with so much mystery retrospectively the the bible actually does just straightforwardly. Explain how to build the ark light minute specifications on what you're supposed to do to make one. Yeah. It also I it almost makes you wonder like what's the big deal about losing it because. Clearly, you have you have a strict set of instructions on how to build another one. I mean, I think there were just like magical beliefs about the sacredness of what it contained. Oh, yes. Certainly. But then alternately is the thing. Right. The art is a container of fancy container of perhaps even a holy container. If your approach ING without worldview, but just a container for other otherwise, holy relics. That is one thing that I think makes it very fascinating. And kind of unique they're probably some other great artifacts like this. But fascinating in that it is a this artifact with all the significance. But it is essentially just a vessel for other things. It's a container. It's not a statue. Which should we read the instructions from exodus twenty five in case anyone wants to build along as we as we do the podcast. Let's build it. All right. Get your cubit ruler ready, and they she'll make an arc of shit him would to cubits and a half Shelby the link thereof and a Cuban and a half the breadth thereof and. Cuban and a half the height thereof. And thou shalt overlay it with pure gold within and without Scheldt, though, overlaid and Scheldt make upon it. A crown of gold roundabout and thou shalt cast four rings of gold for it and put them in the four corners thereof and to ring she'll be in the one side of it and to rings in the other side of it..
"ark" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind
"Hey, welcome to scuff to blow your mind. My name is Robert land. And I'm Joe McCormack. And if you couldn't guess by that opening obviously, we're going to be talking about the ark of the covenant today. Robert, I think it was when I came back from thanksgiving break that you were like we're doing the ark of the covenant on the show. And I was like what the heck are you talking about? Now, you know, I'm always up for an exploration of some kind of weird ancient artifacts or something like that. So so we're we're good to go. But why did you wanna talk about the arc on this show? Robert. Well, it's like nothing we've gone after before, Jim. No that the arc is. I guess it basically comes down to the Archies long fascinated me. I grew up watching raiders of the lost ark. The Indiana Jones movie, I had it on VHS. And I would sit there and watch segments of it in slow motion pretty much every special effect in the film. I'm watching slow motion from the melting of Nazis to just know more practical stuff as well. And you like sit your parents down and your grandparents into a frame by frame face melting analysis of that sort of thing. Yeah. It just it always fascinated me. And then if you're setting in church, and I grew up attending church. You you pick up the the bible, and you flip around and you look at you read, the interesting passages, and certainly the passages about the ark of the covenant are some of the more fascinating this. There's just they just resonate with mystery. You're like what is this about? And so I I feel like throughout my life. I have come back to it. And in each. Time. I've I've looked at it with new eyes and more recently I've been thinking. What what are some scientific possible scientific explanations? Even if they're a bit fringy in places regarding the arc, surely, they exist and lo and behold, they do well the way that the art connects to a lot of scientific topics is very interesting generally tends to connect to them in kind of. Yeah. Like, you say fringy often kind of like a pseudo pseudoscientific kind of ways, but gives you a good mysterious jumping off point to talk about real science. So yeah, we want to talk about the myth today. We want to talk about some weird fringe and pseudoscience beliefs people have had about the arc and how that connects to weird ideas about ancient technology to talk about real science and technology potential in the ancient world. And I think it's going to be a lot of fun. Now, I have to admit it as much as I love the discussion module. Our Facebook group that is associated with stuff to Bill your mind, I actually checked in with the movie Crushers. This is the group associated with Chuck Brian's movie crush podcasts because I was curious what? What what it was what it is like a two had never seen raiders of the lost ark. And also what it is like to have seen raiders of the lost ark. But with some sort of underlying understanding, pre existing understanding of the ark of the covenant because I can relate to to neither of those the ark of the covenant as it's revealed in raiders of the loss. Start has pretty much always been there in my life. Essentially raiders is a book of the bible in a way. Really? I saw that. And then later on I learned how to read and came back into and learn the what the bible had to say about it. But you know in Sunday school. We just never got the Murad 's I don't know why they left the inroads out. I would've loved that. When I was seven, well, we'll get we'll get to this. But I think one of the issues of courses translation in some translations they referred to as tumors. I think that's where I encountered the first time, and I was like whoa back up. The ark of the covenant is giving the enemies of God tumors. And that's that's one of this was post. Raiders. But then then I was like, oh, well, I'm really hooked now. Like, this is this is even more Eldrick har- heaped upon the the mystery of the ark. It makes you want to imagine an alternate universe in which raiders of the law..
"ark" Discussed on Stuff To Blow Your Mind
"Five zero for fifty percent off your first order and the Philistines took the ark of God. And brought it from Ebenezer onto ash Dodd when the Philistines took the ark of God, they brought it into the house of day gone and set it by day. Gone and win. They of ashdod-erez early on the Moro behold Dagan was fallen upon his face to the earth before the ark of the Lord, and they took dig on and set him in his place again. And when they arose early on the Morrow morning, behold a date on was fallen upon his face to the ground before the ark of the Lord and the head of dig on and both the poems of his hands were cut off upon the threshold only the stump of dig on was left to him. Therefore, neither the priests of day gun nor any that come into dig on house tread on the threshold of day gun in Ashkhabad to this day. But the hand of the Lord was heavy upon them of ashdod-erez, and he destroyed them and smoke them with Imran's even Ashdot and the coast thereof and win the men of Ashdot saw that it was. So they said the ark of the God of Israel shall not abide with us for his hand is sore upon us and upon day gone. Our god. They sent their four and gathered all the lords of the Philistines ended them and said what shall we do with the ark of the God of Israel. And they answered let the ark of the God of Israel be carried about unto Goth, and they carry the ark of the God of Israel about the other. And it was so that after they had carried it about the hand of the Lord was against the city with a very great destruction. And he smoked the men of the city both small and great and they had Imran's in their secret parts Murad in their secret parts Imran's in their secret parts, Emma rods in their secret parts, Emma rods secret. Parts. Welcome to stuff to blow your mind from how stuff works com..
"ark" Discussed on KFI AM 640
"Yes that the ark of the covenant can you imagine and and you standing there looking at where the ark of the covenant once rested in that group area uh but it all links to this copper school because the scroll is an inventory of treasurer that looks like it came out of the treasury of this great temple and mike back whereas can they scroll actually give precise locations as to wear all this stuff with buried in locations in the city of jerusalem and in the desert of judea some in the exact vicinity of qom ron now have they found any of to date well i'll one uh researcher at and archeologist went out into the desert with metal detectors immediately 'cause i've ring the the gop restored here's what a whole book about it in fact and found not a tree nodded trace tried to track down these clues but like all these other things in in the school they're very cryptic capello's going to say to you that the scrolls are wrong or he interpreted them wrong yeah are we just don't understand the clues properly interestingly enough the very last item on that copper scroll and i i've read this many times it it declares that and in a pick and we don't what pitted is there is a copy of this document with a measurement and the inventory and a list of each thing and other thing that's what it says copy of this document so i long asked myself might.
"ark" Discussed on Double Toasted
"Video he element i'll go saying that this influence a lot of the things there's even like hidden chambers in secret things and you got to go into we're like little puzzle pieces inside quest that you have to do i mean the only way you can access them is by going undercover type of seen what what he does to get into the room where there's the replica the city what's the dino that even though the map ago and even the ways presented it looks like a cut seen from a modern video game do you think he just won the fucking chocolate factory arch i mean he found the god the ark of the covenant had a golden ticket and so like right away like hold on let me just real quick stupid point i know but umbrella guy said i've played the uncharted games and one thing that media came to mind was notebook might be just pull you know we'll get to know i've never seen an action star do that really imali reverence point was the nathan drake series where you go you know book and you have all the artifacts the same way words again that's my reference point to this this this and this does he bring up that noble in the other movies it's not his notebook put it's his dad snow book the basically servicing purpose plays a major role in last receipts okay so the thing that comes back okay so like that's that's something that's like okay that that is that's a blamed rip off from indiana jones from that game series and you know something you do often in the game just kind of look at that thing and reference it and that's a huge part of aging every time you advance you you have that so against having a notebook out of your his dad's no book be the reference point in this movie it's like that is that is.
"ark" Discussed on The Adam Carolla Show
"You don't really have out a here's as much as i know you don't have to have jokes approved per se now there's obviously this sort of self governing and selfpolicing goes on because its prime time it's front of this nobody's going to go rt lang on anyone's asks right i mean he just it's career suicide to get in there and start really getting into the race in the saxon stuff so did the people so you know people are pretty good where at the gym good at policing themselves not that i wear that edges and then you get up and do it rehearsal niece he wasn't or solano teleprompter and all and all of that so but i don't think per se they go don't do this meant what they could say is this is against the rules like you can't do this you know you can't come out and pretend have a fake envelope with someone else's name written in our summak that's against it's a kind of sum game show in the area and or you can't make fun of the in in memorium or or whatever like this is our this is our franchise so key can't do certain things but in general wide open to uh good spontaneous ideas and ralph feverishly working on them brian van ark is on the line to brian hey what's happening hey man houria i'm doing well a meta flying j uh truck stops near dexter bishop again.