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Chiefs Roster Tracker: Kansas City Cuts Down to 53-Man Roster
"Kansas city chiefs players on the mike today. Just general manager bread. Vh after he made the fifty three man roster cutdown and the sixteen man practice squad with that many players involved. Vicente lots of go through so let's get to it. Here is the general manager of the city chiefs bread. vh before we started just wanted to to thank Certainly my personnel staff in the coaches for for all their hard work ripley. Starting from the time we got off the bus in tampa to The the free. Nc periods of the draft to the undrafted frenzy period. All through training and through the waiver wire process and Again just can't thank them enough other all their hard work Certainly i think all the players The guys congratulations guys. That made a roster made our practice squad and and say thanks to the players that are moving onto you know other homes or pursuing other interests. it was an outstanding camp wada competition we had some tough decisions to make But as you guys know that while we are excited about our roster we're certainly not perfect and you know we'll spend You know the rest of this weekend and throughout the season just trying to see if we can get our roster as we progress and again looking forward to to the opener and a couple of weekends and should be a fun
"53 man" Discussed on Cincy Jungle
"Now you look at the defensive lineman hubbard. Bj hell bj. Hell was a A former day to pick of the giants and it was kind of a one teams. I don't like to use the word trash. But y you know is is another teams treasure in terms of bj. Hill and billy price. Both teams found willing trade partners for guys that were likely not going to make their respective rosters and they. They made a move. Bj hills a guy. That's got you know a handful of sacks in a in a hansel of years he's been a rotational guy. Got some pressures. He's he's a movable piece on that defensive line and a guy that they think can do some things in a rotation upfront and unfortunately with his arrival came. Mike daniels departure and that's a little bit of a surprise but I think if this move was not made mike dangerous you'd be seen him on the final roster here not the case unfortunately he Personal favorite of mine. He was great to our show. Been on our show about three times or something like that really really him. The fans really loved him and You know it's hard to see him go. But obviously this was a business decision. Sam hubbard playing some of Playing really good football on preseason limited snaps after signing that contract so you know he's part of their big plans going forward reader looking really really good coming back from his injury. Ogan jobe looked pretty good in practices and preseason after being out for a little bit there. Hendrickson looks pretty good as well to bow maalot plays and just is a massive human being. And then you've got dairies hodge dairies. Hodge preseason hero. My hope I said this on a another show. strawberries sports with strawberry ice. Go check that out. Good good channel guy. Jeff trample there. I said this earlier today. That i just hope dairies. Hodge isn't one of those guys that absolutely lights up the preseason and then you rely on them for a role in the regular season and it's just not the same as he's going up against moore starting caliber offensive lineman more diverse offensive schemes. But hey credit him. He played his butt off in preseason play very very well was was one of the best players on the bengals team in preseason and he deserved spot. Let's just hope that he can be part of a committee to help. Make up the.
Vegas Raiders Cut Down Roster to Initial 53-Man Roster
"Get right to it sam. The raiders cut their roster down to fifty three. It's not etched in stone whatsoever. There's going to be a lot of moves. I think made over the next forty eight hours but any surprises regarding what What we saw today. How you doing great work today. Greg today becky over. A number of those moves broke several of those transactions. Great work as always. We appreciate it for me biggest surprise. I don't think there's a ton of surprises. You take a look at the roster in for the most part guys that we expect it to make the team guys that had prominent roles in training camp guys that we expect to have. Prominent role season are on the team The one surprise to me. And i guess it's not too much surprise when you contextualize training camp and how everything went through the preseason Brown three years removed from the one thousand yard season. You figure you know his speed. His veteran presence could play a factor there that receiving core. But it goes to show you that. The raiders have a lot of faith in henry rugs in bryan edwards to take a step forward in hunter renfro to continue to be a productive sought receiver and and felt it was. It was a mutually beneficial. John brown asked for his release. I expected to be a market for him with the raiders. Feel good about where they are at receiver. So that was the biggest surprise for people for the most part this roster looks how i expected it to look at this point of the season. What about you. What did you think. Yeah and As it relates to john brown zeta-jones also continues To to emerge as a guy that the raiders value as a reserve player maybe even as a spot starter. There's a lot of value in zeta-jones that goes obviously the numbers because he really hasn't put the numbers up but there's a chemistry that he has with dr carr. There's also an understanding now going into year. Three in this offense of what the raiders are doing so Not a bad option to have that deep down on under depth chart. It'll be interesting to see what some of these younger wide receivers Dita turner and dylan. Stoner who did get cut. Whether they're brought back in some capacity. Very lisa i would think both would be on the practice squad. And who knows maybe one could end up. On the on the regular season roster fifty three man roster
"53 man" Discussed on Arrowhead Pride
"Now ron cop. Beautifully did but jodi fortson Makes his team and he made the decision really difficult on the chiefs. And i think that's part of the reason john why you don't have darwin thompson. left anymore. It's because of what jodi fortson was able to prove both practice and scrimmages and then ultimately the games. Yeah now. here's i have a question though. If this is a survivor game they're going to be a redemption island. We need to know this shot. You come on the. You're showing that you don't didn't watch. Wwf back in the day. The survivors year is about is on cbs. Yes outplay outlast. Now look this group would win either. Competition can live or on. Cbs or wwf series but the survivor series in wwf. That was referring to is a battle four on four if you get pins you're out it's kind of like survivor on cbs. Okay there's an elimination part of it. kelsey would be the survivor in both of these. It doesn't matter. The rest of the team is just way way better this year. Not so much. More upside in belfort's and a grey then. Kaiser absolutely had never even was a part of this team stimuli. Well he he felt like last year just as a guy that they would have in their back pocket in case kelsey was hurt. That if kelsey was hurt they would Activate seals jones to the active roster and and make him active on game days. He did he did. I think ultimately go onto the practice squad once or twice over the course of the season. And i think that was in the postseason. Actually now that i think about it but I think that was just a guy that they had in their back pocket as somebody who could replace some of chelsea's production In a pinch. But i think what we saw in the preseason game the other night where we actually had one four personnel. That is one running back and four tight ends on the field. Once and the play resulted in a touchdown. I think that we're going to seen entirely different kind of approach with these particular four players on the field because all of them can make plays. I mean you know. You had travis kelsey Noah gray and jodi on the field and it was blake. Bell who caught a touchdown pass so because yeah so i think this is going to be real interesting to see what the chiefs do and i think that play on. Friday night was an example of the kind of things. They're thinking about right now. This was an article. I wrote after that game on friday night the idea of fourteen personnel which is running one running back and four tight ends on the same time. Eleven plays in the entire. Nfl last year during the regular season so this is not a personnel. That is used a lot. And when andy reid see something that is not right lot guest. That's the toy that he wants to bring to the table and finally gets to do it and mahomes noted in his post game press conference and it was beaming. I mean this guy. He's mr cool but he's a nerd. When it comes to like the xs knows of football you could tell that. He's digging this fourteen personnel that the chiefs can now do and the great part about it. And i think especially with chelsea gray and ironically bell to a lesser extent. These guys can catch the football. Like receivers and i think that is what makes this so exciting. Like imagine having the speed of tyree killing mccoll hardman on your team and you know you. Guys stay on the sideline we. Don't we're all right right now. we're gonna go. You don't need players. You don't need that speed when you're down on the ten yard while you wanna pass them all and the big dudes who can catch right so right this is. This is the andy reid. Bread and butter see personnel and for the first two games in two times they show the look. They pass for a touchdown. Now you get to the third game. The team sees the same look. They're ready for it. And then all of a sudden. it's a bruising. Run where they handed up the clyde. And there's a gaping hole for many old clyde to just skate through and that we're the beauty i think of having the four tight ends after all the analysts call one even one two or one three personnel as heavy formation. So what's a one. Four person zuma. We're talking a really heavy. Yes speaking of sumo's let's move onto the offensive line. John the chiefs end up keeping ten of these big fellas we know about orlando brown junior joe creed humphrey smith look and yang. The three rookies along the offensive line. Then we go to. What will be the reserves. We have austin life. Andrew wylie. Mike remers nikola gritty in l. d. t. as i wrote in the review right now a p were still waiting on injury updates. A little bit clear picture as to win. Blyth and lt be back in the mix. I know that there have been trade rumors circulating around l. d. t. does have the note trade clause so anything that happens in that regard. He would have to approve. But you have a backup center. In austin blythe oss nikola grady also plays a little bit of center. You have swing tackles and andrew. Wylie and mike remers ideally ideal but ideally widely would be that left tackle for you remers on the other side but both can play both. And then you have ele grady l. Dt who could play the guard positions. Andrew wylie has found surround really everything but center. Same thing for mike remers so the name of the game when it comes to the depth of the offensive line is versatility and i think this chiefs team has versatility really at each and every position. I just named two players for each position along the line. Where if a guy misses a game or two or you get down to a little bit of your depth and super bowl is not drastic and you have players to back them up. I like the depth on this team..
"53 man" Discussed on Arrowhead Pride
"I know that he became at the end of the preseason there quite a fan favorite as two men. This gore kid can make the roster. I think this is going to be someone. The chiefs will definitely be interested in having on that practice squad. And you don't know what can happen. The running back position clyde edwards. Allaire got her for the last three games last year. He was hurt during the playoffs. He's hurt right now and not to say that he won't be back but what i'm saying is injuries do happen. Sure running back room Daryl williams we believe is just coming out of the concussion protocol for example. We saw jerick. Mckinnon and darwin thomson really be the one to toward the end of the preseason there so derek gore doesn't make the initial roster but i think he remained someone to remember if there are injuries to the running back room later this year. I think there's two historical precedents to look at here For these two players for For darwin thompson. The historical precedent is charge andric west. Who came to the team. Several times after his initial departure And and you know performed fairly well in those roles when the chiefs needed help and the running back room. I think we could see thompson. Come back and those kinds of sir. I'm happy that you didn't say. Cj spillers because yeah. Yeah the other president. I think spillers scenario for poor derek gore. Yeah the president for gore. i think is is Is more elijah mcguire. Who also was Chiefs running back this year. That she's had him on the practice squad a few times hope to develop him into a good running back just as they have with other players like one will get to here in a little bit And i think that's something that they would like to do with player like derek gore. Yeah poor mcguire got hurt toward the end of that. Preseason game and we won't see him another point about this. i think. Congratulations to williams. Because even though mckinnon makes us roster like. I said. I think he's more of a a comp a guy that can give clyde rest. I think daryl williams is finally getting to be that third down back might be the best brass pass protector among them and in other years he had shawn mccoy. Enter right the levian bell enter the fold. What are those guys do except take opportunity and really set it back and and set it further into the future and so i think they're williams finally getting an opportunity. That's a good moment for him. And man pete y you so dumb. Why did you think that. Andy reid was a fullback projection. I'm never doing it again. I'm telling you right now here. We are august thirty first. I will never. I will never ever make a projection on this website for andy. Reid that does not include a fullback. Michael burton Makes the team and we saw at the beginning of the preseason. he was blocking for client. Really that was part of the reason he had that ten yard game. Even start the preseason. Yesterday michael birt was there so we say goodbye to sausage. You agree here. We probably see burton for what six to ten offense to play a game and then among the special teams. Yeah i think that's right Sort of the same rule that That anthony sherman had. He might actually get a little more use than that because because he's younger at cameron was getting to the point that They didn't want to use him quite that often. On offense is his snap counts were steadily declining over time and So i think there's a chance we could see him. Used more often In this particular chiefs offense burton originally played college football at rutgers which is greedy in a two thousand fifteen fifth round originally bounced around and now he is with the cheese all right. Let's go to the wide receiver room. Which i felt like brought some intrigue here more. So than maybe we had bargained for the chiefs and on the initial roster they only keep the five wide receivers. Tyree kill cole hartman. By one pringle damarcus robinson. But if i name those four and i said john cheese kept five. You'd probably say that was markets kemp is the fifth. But it's not therese fountain ends up making the team. Which i thought was really interesting and the other part of this. That's obvious let you comment. Here is the fact that brett beach Is the first time that i can recall that. He gave up on a pick fifth rounder in cornell pal in the year that he drafted that player and so to me a couple of unprecedented things happened in the wide receiver room today. Yeah and one of them being marcus camp probably making the fifty three ultimately because he's he's had trouble doing that and i think that that is the way this is going to play out when we get a couple of players off the roster to go to injured reserve. Marcus camp is going to be one of the guys who shows up a number is like i believe the wanna have six receivers so i agree with you and a friend of our site matt. Derek of chiefs digest is well connected with camp. He noted that i. It seems like from the camp camp that would they believe that he will be a rostered player on this team. Right theresa fountain really looked good. You know. I think the chiefs didn't want to take a chance with fountain out there on the open market or anything like that are available to other teams and they go and keep them a twenty eighteen. Guy's been in the league for a couple of years. Now i believe essentially a fifth rounder and has been working kind of like camp a little bit lesser talked about but just been trying to knock on the door and find a place..
"53 man" Discussed on The Falcoholic
"Whether or not the falcons would keep a fourth guy back there. And it's during ethridge. Who played a fantastic game in that first. Preseason ended up arguably being a little bit more consistent than some of the guys. He was competing with. He has made the initial fifty three man roster. I feel like this is a position that it's going to be relatively stable. Enroll thompson was one of the guys. That was in competition here. I could see him. Potentially going to the practice squad for this team really liked what he did as well in this preseason but right now during ethridge the only other undrafted free agent other than philippi. Franks to make the fifty three man roster. I think he's relatively safe. I think we can run with this now as we get into the defensive backfield. This is where things get interesting. The falcons are going to be running running with eleven total defensive backs now. I think most people thought the max number for the defensive backs it was going to be around ten. So they're they're running one heavier than what most people projected really with that being sort of four safeties five corners and in that that tenth player being sort of a hybrid player that can play both safety and corner. Let's start with the safeties obviously drawn harmon. Eric. harris or the to presumed starters the veteran starters the one year rentals at the safety position and then of course. You've got At the the the backups. For those guys Richie grant who our second round draft pick and then jalen hawkins arguably one of the most improved players from last year to this year Who we think also is going to see a lot of playing time now. The corner position. This is where. I think things are a little bit interesting obviously. Aj terrell fabien moreau or the to pencil in starters. They've looked good from what we've seen from them. In camp in limited playing time in the preseason and then behind them. you've got isaiah. Oliver who is the presumed nickel corner. Who has actually played pretty well. I think he played pretty well in the back. Half of last year in this revised position for him. And then darren hall and avery williams the to drafted corners. They have made the roster. Darren hall maybe a little bit more surprised but again. I don't think the team wants to walk away from any of their drafted rookies. The they wanna hang on to these guys whether they play him or not so hall could be someone that In the very similar way kept inactive on game days and they're keeping him to pull him into the twenty twenty two season unless injuries of course happened. The head of him every williams. Clearly i think is going to be the punt returner of choice for the team going forward. Tj green who. I feel like really had a very very strong season in the last couple of preseason games that last one may have played him onto the roster his player. It's got some size. He's one of the guys. I think that can sorta platoon. Between safety and corner. He has made the roster so kudos to him and kendall. Sheffield is currently on the roster. Here's a guy that i felt was on the bubble. He did not play at all in the preseason. He is barely practice in fact. I don't know that. He is practiced once many of us thought he would either be put on the pup list or put on injured reserve. This could be something where he could be returning in the very near future. And the falcons just are not willing to move on from him yet. But he has for now made the roster. I will say this. I do feel like this is a position. Where if they're going to add another offensive lineman or even potential another running back. I like one of these defensive backs could be the guy to go and honestly. I still think i'm going to continue to say that. I think kendall sheffield's going to be that guy simply because his second season was such a downturn of performance the injuries this year i could see them trying to stash him on the pup list and obviously that would be six weeks before you would be able to see him again. I feel like there's maybe an additional change coming for the defensive back so this is definitely wanted to keep an eye on but right now sheffield has made the roster and of course the the specialist. Josh harris long snapper young way coup. For the kicker and cameron is lack has made it as the punter The former holder or former teammate of young way coup is also now made the roster as well so kudos to those guys As i mentioned before this is and you're going to see a lot of people saying this and it bears repeating. This is the initial roster. I think we're going to see more moves made even possibly today or tomorrow as these other guys are cut. The falcons are pretty high in the the chain for claiming guys off waivers because of the record last year so if they go and claim a guy there's a good chance that they'll get him likewise if a veteran this cut a specially again i think on the offensive line because of the lack of depth there. I think that is a position. They can look to address. End some of the guys. I think even though right now they're on the roster who are are not necessarily on sure footing. If you asked me to put that down to a list i would say number one. Felipe a franks do think. They'll try to put him on the practice squad at some point. But i just don't see them trying to carry three quarterbacks all year long Josh rosen again. I think this is more about the team wanting to give him a longer. Look but i don't think he's unsure for either. I think the team could still look for another veteran quarterback to be the true. Backup to matt ryan this year. So the two quarterbacks behind matt ryan or on my list for a.
"53 man" Discussed on The Falcoholic
"On tuesday afternoon afternoon. They wrapped it up and now they have the roster. They're going to begin practicing with but again. I think the important caveat here is that this isn't an initial roster other teams are making cuts as we speak. They have to wrap up by four pm. On tuesday and that's important to note because there's a very strong likelihood that the roster we see today will not be the one that the falcons have for the initial Game of the season when they go up against the eagles and little over a week and a half But let's talk about who's on the roster right now. Some surprises some surprise cuts And what this roster looks like. So i want to start on the offensive side of the ball. Let's start at the very top. This was an area where i think fans had a good feeling for how things might play out and we got a little bit of a surprise. Here obviously quarterback. Matt ryan is the starter. Josh rosen has made the roster right now. I think the presumption is that rosen will be quarterback number two. What is also surprising. Is the falcons are rostering three quarterbacks philippa frank's right now is on the fifty three man roster so that is a little bit of a surprise. I think he was someone that many of us thought would be cut in potentially put on the practice squad. Apparently the falcons either didn't feel like he was going to survive The cut in in might have gotten picked up by another team. I'm not. I don't think that would have been the case. But that may explain why franks is still on the roster or they liked him enough that they felt he deserved a spot and they wanna keep developing him as a future. Backup quarterback for whoever starter is down the road. Because it's clear Right now they don't perceive him as qb to and again. This is where. I could see a move changing this in the next week. Or so the falcons may find another veteran on the cutlass trevor. Siemian which we're still waiting to get confirmation whether he's been covering not but the falcons may still look for another quarterback that could supplant either. Franks or rosen I don't think rosen is one hundred percent cemented into his position. Either right now philippi. Franks i think still could ultimately end up on the practice. Squad and rosen may end up getting completely replaced with the veteran option. I still think that's the case that looks like right now. We've got three quarterbacks. But i feel like this is the position where we could see a lot of potential turnover. The running backs. They're the falcons are going with one fullback in just three halfbacks Mike davis the starter. Quadrille listen quarter. All patterson who's really more of like an offensive weapon but he is going to primarily serve as a running back and then keith smith as a fullback interestingly Running back stunt dante form in Who i think most people did not have him making the roster. But maybe more surprisingly caleb huntley who beat jake and hawkins after that second round of cuts that got a lot of snaps in that final preseason game he did not make the fifty three man roster which i think surprised quite a few people and ultimately i think he is someone they'll try to put on the practice squad again assuming here he clears waivers and he does seem like some of that makes a lot of sense For the practice squad. For the falcons wide receivers. They did end up going with six this again. I think a lot of people were saying. Okay arthur smith's offense is very tight end heavy. We think he's going to run a lot of two tight end sets. We still think that'd be the case. But he actually went with six wide receivers this time around. Obviously the top. Three or no surprise calvin ridley russell gauge allama zacchaeus. After them in the next three guys i think you know you could have made a case for them I don't know that any of these guys particularly wild in the preseason but They are now on the fifty three man. Roster tasha sharp has made it christian blake a carryover from last year and drafted rookie. Frank darby now for darby. I think many people thought he was not going to make the roster and this may be as much about the falcons not wanting to give up on the draft. Pick just yet. This is a first draft class. Under terry and arthur smith. I think this is simply a matter of them. Not wanting to give up on one of their draft picks this quickly so i suspect they will keep him on the fifty three most or not think that they're going to try to cut him at all. I think they're afraid that another team will try to coach him and put them put him on there Fifty three man roster. So i suspect he will be the kind of player where they'll put him on the roster and he's going to be a game day inactive for the entire season that way they can pull him through the season they can give the twenty twenty to see if he makes enough development to secure himself a spot. But this is sort of like redshirt him. He's going to be on the fifty three. But i fully expect that minus the injuries. That happen the head of him that he will be someone that will be frequently inactive on game days now tight end. I have been on the record. Saying the falcons would keep four. I still think it's a possibility. Parker hessy was put on the cova list. So it's possible that when he comes off that list they could kick someone else off and put him in the right now. The rolling with three tight ends hayvenhurst. Cockpits lee smith no surprises there. The player that i had is my darkhorse. John rain also got cut so he. I'm over one in my predictions for this fifty three man roster and that that is one position where i think there could be one additional body broad and parker hessy but they may roll with three tight ends for the season which is a little surprising but this could just simply be about quality over quantity for arthur smith. So hopefully these guys stay healthy for the the you know the fullness of the season or they get some guys on the practice squad stash that they can easily move up in if something happens all right offensive line also thought they would be nine guys here simply for the depth portion of this running with eight feels a little bit risky. I feel like that knife offensive lineman even if they're inactive. You want that depth. This is another position. Where i think the falcons could make a move this week They're probably right now. Monitoring the cuts of veterans And other guys from other teams to see if someone they like comes free on the offensive line particularly the interior. I still think they have some question marks on the interior of the offensive line at this point but right now the starting unit presumably is going to be jake matthews at left tackle josh andrews at left guard matt hennessy. Center chris lindstrom at right guard. And of course kayla mcgarry right tackle and right now. The current backups are drafted rookie. Drew dahmane Jalen mayfield and jason spriggs. Who actually played pretty well Surprisingly willie beavers Who was one point promoted to the first team When kayla mcgarry was out he did Get cut which was a bit of a surprise jason spriggs that do think outperformed him in the preseason but beaver seemed to be in high regard with coaching staff. I guess not high enough and right now matt go no has been put on the pup list which means he will not be able to return for at least six weeks given that I do think they'll look for someone else. But hopefully gono can get healthy at some point during the season and come in and resume as the potential swing talk right now it looks like the swing taco going into the season will be jason spriggs and that wraps up the offensive side of all. Let's talk about the defense but before we do that. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. And we're back on the alcohol at podcast. Reacting to the falcons initial fifty three man roster that just released here on tuesday august. Thirty first We've talked about the offense. Let's talk about the defense starting with the trenches the defensive line Not many big surprises here. Grady jarrett obviously marlon davidson The two names sort of at the top of this list tyler davidson as well. Jonathan bullard i think he earned that spot. This preseason has looked very good john kaminsky. Tyler already mentioned taller davidson and then to quan graham. So those are the six guys in the middle in this essentially this three four defense but please don't put too much too much on that the outside linebackers right now. There are five of them again. No big surprises here. dante fowler jacob to not mariner stephen means those three guys are i think what you would consider to be the The first run starters on the outside Data koumba occasi- has made it of course the the draft of rookie who's looked good in training camp and the preseason And then of course brandon copeland the inside linebackers. This is where we actually now have. One of our only undrafted free agent signings other than philippa. Franks of course quarterback The four guys that make up the inside linebackers. Now for the falcons of course dion jones. Foyer lucon michael walker. Were no surprise. There was a bit of a competition for that fourth spot. And that was even..
"53 man" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"Yeah. I owe some credit to everyone in the building, or this is the honor to be a part of the Patriots. This experience was really one of a kind beyond gratefully thanks. Devin, he thanks Adrian Phillips, thanks, Matthew slater, says the Patriots have a spot in his heart forever. So for the players hate playing for the Patriots crowd, Adrian Colbert didn't. And he's a guy who likes to have fun. I mean, he's streaming video games all the time. Check that out. The other way. I'll give you another cut from around the league that I find hilarious. Remember when the dolphins were supposedly going to sign David Andrews and then they even met with them and then they didn't get them and they settled for Matt scoring instead? Yes. Guess who just got caught? Yeah, I saw that as well. So the dolphins who are supposed to be there, they let cars go. They didn't finish a deal with Andrews. Scores sucked last year. I don't know why they thought he could be the starting center. I mean, remember the bolt east with Baltimore last year. If you don't know what I'm talking about, remember the snaps in that Baltimore game against space rights. And Miami now with to a back there who's not exactly the most durable player, they don't have a starting center . That's kind of big. So week one, the dolphins are probably gonna have a new starting center. So that, you know, kind of pick for the Patriots. Good news, because that's a good segue into this edge group for the Patriots, which is just ridiculous, right? And we've seen it all training camp all preseason everything and the dolphins are gonna have to set protections and get the mic points all checked out with a center that they were not planning on rostering or at least not planning on starting this year. That's good news for the Patriots. Now, the question here, and this is probably one of the biggest questions going into cut down day for Bill Belichick and the Patriots is what happens with chase one of itch. He's easily the most besides maybe Nikhil Harry..
"53 man" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"Other second line by doing it this way. But it does feel like Carl Davis was one of the best 53 players in training camp, right? If you want to put it that way. And it's not just that. I mean, he was getting quality reps. He was represented with the ones he was playing like a guy who's going to make routine. You know, first of all, I think they're going to keep its on a depth here. I think Bill looks at what happened last year. They got run all over. They couldn't stay healthy up front. He's not going to let that happen two years in a row. This is a position where he might keep more depth than he probably needs just because he does sort of over correct with these things at times. That being said, if I'm looking at this group who's the odd man out, it still feels like Henry Anderson's job is an entirely safe. I know Bill gave him, you know, when Atlas asked the question, gave him a glowing review. But he was playing late in the game last night. Late into the game. And he still hasn't entirely shown up on special teams, which everybody on this list outside of maybe Lawrence guy, I think is going to have to end up playing special teams this year. So I have them on. Do you see it right there? I think I had him. And when we're done, we can look at, I don't know if you do this. I do the first three next three. I think I had them on there. I was so tired last night. But yeah, Henry Anderson, I think he's a good player. I'd love to see you make the team. I think he can help the team. The way they're using him, they're using them like a guy who they don't plan on having. It's interesting because Belichick had the effusive praise when Atlas asked him the question as you put it not me. And then he's also practiced really well, right? I mean, I compare notes with Greg bedard when it comes to one on ones and Greg and I both have had Henry Anderson for his fair share of wins in one on one girls, right? One on ones inside 6, two on two. All these types of practice drills with these defensive linemen. Henry Anderson has been extremely solid, right? Extremely solid. And then we come out to these preseason games and he's playing in the fourth quarter of the final preseason game. And you're scratching your head and that's why I asked Bill Belichick the question about Henry Anderson because I'm trying to figure out what's the deal with this guy. And my pinell Michael Bennett to a degree even though he made it a couple of weeks, right? I mean, all these guys, this is not unheard of for the Patriots to sign a veteran defensive lineman and to just not have a workout, right? For whatever reason, the system's present click with the player. And Anderson seemed like such an easy system fit. He seemed like a guy that might pinell. Right. So it's possible that he's cut and maybe the Patriots because as Albert rear reported again this morning, there is a lot of interest in a guy like monterrey as Adams..
"53 man" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"And that's part of the reason why, because he had to learn how to catch the ball. So yeah, I'm fine giving gunner kind of a clock. I'm giving him a little bit longer rope, but the reality is, I don't know that the roster might not dictate that. You know, in a perfect world, gunner gets more time. But I don't know that the roster set up in that way. Right. So the last thing you got to element, first of all, I want to just quickly say and this is no offense whatsoever to why is Uber? I really don't mean any offense to him. But last night was the first time he showed anything in the pretext to too little too late. Too little too late for him, so I get that fans and watch the preseason finale last night, are gonna sit there and say, wow, why not Isaiah zuber? He looked really good last night. That was the first time he's looked really good in months, right? So that's why a lot of us are keeping Isaiah zuber off the roster. I still put him on the practice squad. Me too. And a really good guy to have on the practice squad because of his speed. So he can mimic certain, obviously, he's not jaylen waddle he's not Tyree kill. But at least on the practice squad, he is a guy that can run, right? And can sort of mimic those roles of patriots actually tend to give those guys a running start when they're mimicking a tire a kill, so they'll actually stardom kind of like arena football. Where they start ten yards back and I thought it was the other thing. I thought they'd let him start 5 yards downfield. So whichever one it is, they give him a head start. I know that. I don't know which direction. So Christian wilkerson, I think they're probably going to lose on waivers if they do not keep him on the team. But unless Nikhil Harry was going to get dealt, which now is getting murky because of his shoulder injury. I just don't know where the spot is for wilkerson unless you're going to talk me into cutting gunner and keeping Christian wilkerson, which I think is a stretch. Christian wilkerson to me, and I've made this comparison before is Riley rose's name Riley Riley McCARRON, Riley, was it McCARRON? He was a guy. He was a cyber receiver from was Mick Karen. Yeah. Rosie McCARRON, who he popped in that preseason. It actually like Wilson. He was with the team the season before on the practice guard. He popped in that preseason. We were like, oh, this is great. He can play special teams. He's a little bit of a receiver nice. And then he muffed a punt and fumbled the ball in his first game and he hasn't been on an NFL roster since. Wilkerson's a little further along than he is, I think. He's athletic, but it's the same thing where I'm not, have you cut gunner for wilkerson? That's a season long commitment. Right. I'm not there with wilkerson. If you can I already kill Harry and then bring wilkerson on and it's two or three weeks. That feels a little better..
"53 man" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"So that's the feeling that I have as well. I know I've done this don't go anywhere we'll call you back in a second, right? And Christian wilkerson, he's gonna have to pass through waivers and it sounds like there is going to be a little bit of interest in Christian wilkerson across the league. Maybe not enough to get him signed through a 53, but I do think there's a possibility that Christian wilkerson will get claimed. If they do cut him, so that's an element of it is that we have to think as well. But gun rose, the one thing I want to stress and I know fans are soured on him as a wide receiver because of the drops. And I totally understandable. But the one thing I want to stress is, if you look at, let's just I know we always say Julian Edelman's career and compared to gunners and it's for a good reason, but also lofty, right? But let's just take Julian Edelman's career trajectory for a second. And open pray that gunner can follow a somewhat similar patty. He's not gonna be as good, but as somewhat similar path, catching the football and working on your hands while you're converting to wide receiver is the final step, right? Learning how to run routes, learning how to get open, learning how to create separation, learning how to break and how to run an in cut as Troy Brown said the couple weeks ago about gun royal shaved ski. That's item number one on the list. And Gunnar has this summer proven that he can get open, right? He's gotten better at that. And that to me, I got a little bit more breaking news here. What do we got? The Patriots are releasing Bill Murray. Okay, he actually had decent at camp there. I didn't think he was gonna make the team. But he did something to camp there. Me, I didn't think he was gonna be kind. Murray's likely to land on New England's practice squad of Doc claimed. Wow, so I just broke it on the air and didn't have enough time to be done. Oh, you were. I thought you were reading that off Twitter. No. So Bill Murray waved, we'll get to that in the defensive line here in a second. Let's wrap this up on the wire receivers though. By point with gunner just to kind of sum it up,.
"53 man" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"Okay, so I guess I could see that in theory because not every single team that uses a fullback, right? So there's only ten to 12 teams maybe that roster, a fullback, but a lot of those teams already have a fullback in-house that they really like. So they would have to put that guy and bring in yakub Johnson. To me, the other element of it too I believe in the language is kind of weird, but I believe if another team was about to offer him the Patriots could swoop in and protect him with the international pathway designation. So he wouldn't be eligible to play this year, but they wouldn't lose them. Like, I think that there's a way that no matter what happens, they don't lose them. It might turn into he can't play this here, but they can keep him around no matter what. So the tough part that I have with Jakob Johnson cutting Jakob Johnson is we've talked so much about how important the full back position is, and he's a good lead blocker. He's a solid he does. He's not James Devlin, but he's very good at what he does, exactly. And with life without hunter Henry this summer has hit with the Patriots, especially if it's going to be Cam Newton at quarterback 21 personnel is going to be a part of this offense, right? They're going to need a fullback in this offense. If they're not going to be able to go full 12 all the time because Johnny was nicked up or hunter Henry's nicked up and those guys are gonna miss games. When those guys miss games and they only have one true tight end that they want to use regularly, whether it's Johnny or hunter Henry, they're going to go 21 days. That's going to be first quarter first drive opening drive. It's going to be Jakob Johnson and Damien Harris down your throats. And they lose that entire element if they go that direction, could Devin osteo or Johnny Smith or 6th offensive lineman, recreate the fullback position. We've talked about linebackers, potentially playing fullback or whatever the case may be, right? Right. They could technically recreate it, but he's really good at what he does. Jakob Johnson. And we've seen with cam last night, tons of 21 personnel, right? Fullback lead, fullback draw, all these types of plays with the Jacob involved. So I find it hard to believe that they're going to walk away from the full back because it's just too it's too consistent of an offense for them. And then you have to put into that also that hunter Henry and Johnny Smith might need to be managed and I don't know. All the snaps being 12 personnel might not be as much of a thing as we thought it was a couple of weeks ago or a couple of months ago. Look, I didn't love leaving Jakob Johnson off. He was my 54th guy. I could be convinced that did he stay..
"53 man" Discussed on Blogging the Boys
"I are is a thing right now until the season starts going. If you're on i right now. You're toast for the year. That might be the case for a guy like josh ball But they got some decisions to make and it's gonna be tight so obviously. We made our predictions You know to an extent were not the coaching staff We don't know how much you know these. You know bubba guy showed it's unfortunate for some of the guys like see me or i feel like didn't get a fair shake this year because of the fact that you know benji was that bad you know and that's again again. Though you gotta remember we're also giving like for instance With with the offensive line or even with defensive line you're gonna have. They're they're going to cut where they need to cut like. I think we have too many receivers. You know what i mean. Yeah i mean there. There's some guys that i think are going to be a surprise. I personally think. I think if it makes the team that so that's your surprise. Make surprise who you gotta surprise me. Keith woman kind of took my knows my mind mine. I said but Yeah i. I'll tell you i'll do a surprise. I'll do a surprise cut. Go for christ i mean. Come on my surprise. 'cause i've been calling for that for a while but i see right now. That's my surprise. Cut like i don't think he makes his team. That will be out with quarterbacks if somebody's on the fence and they're like listen. We need this. And that they'll go to quarterbacks as opposed to keeping three right my support like i said. My surprise cuts tristen hill. I guess because of like the upside that he had my surprise make. Nah i don't have any surprise makes keith. May maybe you're quant. Hardy somehow someway. I don't i don't think so but yes still keep. You could still keep gifford because saying jalen smith is like if you get that right then. That's like you get that right. There start jalen gets cut. That's my they come hand in hand. It's crazy match the uproar of the internet. If that's happens could you. Here's the thing somebody will take a shot on him and somebody can be somebody else's attic but if i'm quitting and i'm talking to mccarthy i'm like listen he don't fit the mold need one spot right now gifford is probably the one that we can use the most where we're the weakest right so cut cut them. Damn office of liner. We got eleven right. I mean like or sit. Now cooper rush you know we keep gilbert godfrey. There's on the practice squad yeah noticed. Just move we just dressed to well as you guys are listening to this. It is monday. They have twenty four hours. It will be a very interesting twenty four hours. They don't have to wait till that deadline. So things can be developing. You might even be listening to this and some of the guys that we've mentioned are already gone. So there's going to be a lot of moves to make for the dallas cowboys as now. All eyes in all gears are set for opening night on september. The ninth against the tampa. Bay buccaneers Will obviously be chomping at the bit to preview that one. We finally get to do some game predictions in real life football stuff. Football season is officially back. So of course we want to thank everybody for listening to this episode of the jersey boys podcasts and of course you can fall everybody on the blogging blogging. Boys podcast network a great lineup of shows heading into a very very interesting week for the dallas cowboys. So dave start. Joe and keith ernst. This has been another episode of the jersey boys podcasting. We'll see you guys next time..
"53 man" Discussed on Blogging the Boys
"I don't foresee making this team. Oh what about the cake. I want peace and of isaac arakan. Yeah he's saying. I don't know man. He's a great story. But i don't know if he's going to put them on development. You want okay. Well then that's different. Yeah well he might for sure. I love that man. that'd be awesome. It's a great story and yeah it's definitely something to to follow it you could see. He's like he's amped. he like them. I like them to look for him to make a great story. Great story He's got heart now. I will say this. We didn't touch on it a lot when he was drafted because of the decorated. Have you quote decorated background. The josh ball has but he's been hurt. I don't i don't foresee him sticking around. He's going to be on. They're going to put him on. I r okay. Yeah that could be a thing. You're right that's exactly what they're gonna do. Yeah all right because maybe they maybe they see something this guy and they just don't have the room right now so why not. Just say hey. Twenty twenty two. This could be your call Eric smith i guess he's out because i can't. I can't foresee that Matt far knock. That was the backup center. Originally the backup center then. They gave reps to connor williams to be the backup center. And that was that was a jesus. Christ that was a bad look. So i think because because the connor williams thing didn't work out and it doesn't look good that he could be the backup center because he might be the starting left guard can make the roster. So do i. yeah i do too now. I'm not sure they tried him out at any other offensive line positions old. Don't quote i've i've seen it all the preseason but you really hard really really wanna really just wanted to steal definitely makes. The team turns to yeah definitely percent. The swing tackle will be the guy that goes in there. I if needed is going to be turned steel. I and i. I don't necessarily like how he played last year He was in their relief but again trial by fire last year with those dallas cowboys. Everybody there was. They said a stat. Today i don't know you guys caught it in the broadcast when you guys watch that. That whole offensive line's not together since two thousand nineteen didn't play one game last year to get the bills. Yeah we that's the thanksgiving game. We have smoked. We destroy by josh allen. Yeah kobe's land call beasley. That's right. But i tell you why like that. That's a problem that the fact that they haven't been together for all those gates scene to me. But i guess right off the rip think josh ball. Dr isaac arakan He's probably going to be cut clear waivers and maybe to the practice squad. I can foresee that. He was a practice guy last year. He knew it again this year. He's got the size. You just gotta get the mechanics down. Yeah yeah he's a big dude. He's a big dude. So i say they give them a piece of cake and perfect. I love it all right. Moving over to the defensive side of the ball way so what are we got how many how many we keep in an welcome again right now. All right so they have twelve currently have twelve. Tyrant smith tyler. Beyond is zack. Martin collins and connor williams as your five and then behind him connor mcgovern Tarrant steal more than likely brandon knight. I think he sticks around to matt. Farney acc- He's there and i think tha know me. I just don't think he should be there but he might. So they might keep ten cut. Cut isaac garlic own and having go to the practice squad. And then. I are josh bell and cut ties with eric smith. That's that's where i think. That team goes Probably have you know ten offensive lineman just to be on the safe side of whole pretty much a whole a whole other offenses line backing them up. Yeah i don't know if that many but we'll see. I mean i that's the hardest one to pick. It is this. I think they go with About eight nine. He'll be slimming. Then it just depends on who can enter change. And plus if you're if you're if you're keeping count you know we. Now we have our linebackers defensive line quarterbacks so we have right now one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen seventeen eighteen nineteen twenty twenty one spots already twenty one hundred fifty three. That's not a bad. That's not a bad ratio. Because we just got if you add kicker and punter there's twenty twenty four until mcquaid right so moving onto the defensive line surely currently with thirteen on the roster the you know. What are we doing thirteen on the roster line so now you definitely have demarcus. Lawrence randy gregory naval gallimore will be back soon I tell you what now. This kid stepped up aasa od. 007 that's what we've been calling him the whole time. He's stepped up big Pity i thought. I saw him in their Brandon or whatever his name is. The voice has shoulder pads. It's well then. Yeah well not only that. But if they played the first half in their bench in the second half there and then after that adorns armstrong tara basham bradley nine tristan hill chauncey golden rondell carter brett urban quinton bahana and justin hamilton. It's all justin. Hamilton made a couple of nights place today in the game. But here's thirteen guys here. I foresee lawrence and gregory neville gallimore. Back after injury below. Said they'll make. The team is making the team. I think of nymex this. I don't think well you don't think way hold on time out gets out of him and rondell carter and i think that for some reason i'm at carter played a beast begins today to and he's been playing really. Well just my. My prediction is at a rondo. Carter over bradley. I i think the biggest thing. Yeah that haiti had that started that interception. The they'll keep. Keep carter if there if carter makes the teen keeping them i do not foresee them cutting in i. I just don't. I can't sit here. You know he could clear to but we'll see carter's making the tea and i think this is where we're going to keep the most because again we see i'm sorry to cut you off. Can we break it up into defensive. Andro quick what were the defensive. End lawrence gregory right dorrance armstrong and i try and keep plays the who. And that's that's a that's a hate not being prepared for that Chauncey goals did cianci. Yeah there's a lot of guys Basham I don't know man did for. That's why they list them. All as defensive lineman because you're not gonna be able to be able to you got the plug. Because sometimes they even move them in exactly so it's like some of these guys they're different doors aren't strong to me. I think he definitely obviously earned a spot. He kicked played phenomenal. Finally finally he finally showed us something. Because i i for years for years. Now i've been wondering why. Why why is he on this roster. And i think finally coming out party this preseason so i think he makes the roster based off his performance. The only thing i would say is a is a surprise. Surprise cut might.
"53 man" Discussed on Blogging the Boys
"And noah brown are your four five now the guys on the bubble right behind him a right behind them is your me. Turner's your seeming. Hobos your reggie. Davis is your johnny dixon's those aaron parker. Tj vashem like. There's a lot of guys sift through. Yeah i mean. There's stephen good jury who was out last year because of it Cyrus mitchell. I don't think there's any room for him. Core guy had to deal with the new chief. Yeah exactly yes. Good call brandon smith. And then i i think i aaron parker already. So called the new cheese touchdown he did. He did No i thought that was johnny dixon. Maybe it was johnny dixon. I don't i don't foresee outside of Of the the big three. Which is obviously what i just said. Coober gal cd and then you have wilson and brown. That's five you probably are going to take six now. That's the big decision to make you you waste. I'm not gonna say wasted because we don't know but they definitely used draft pick this year to draft seamy for foco. You know what i mean. So i i foresee him being left on this roster. Because i don't think the cowboys are in the business or the market. Say yeah go clear waivers. Because i don't think it does because we then it's emitting made a bad draft exactly and you know that this front office don't like to do that i think and shoot you know I o traffic me. Turner stays no not. I think i think if they're going to have a. You're going to have a six. I think he deserves it. I agree with what you're saying search. But i think it's outta turner and if they do a sim cmo how he say falko seeming for hulkah- if they do use him a man is clearly on. It's almost like all right. It's a development thing you know something where they see something in the future because he has not really shown anything no and but again he falls on his he he falls on. He falls under the dot rule. Not really he. He's he was playing with. He played today. He played today with the ones you know. So i'm like okay. They're finally. They're giving them a chance and he didn't really show much but they had. They had three games to get that done and they couldn't do it. But you also gotta remember too is they also have been showing up in practice right so again. They haven't really heard much. I say him. I think that the two. I personally think it's going to be at a me. Turner and dixon myself dixon. Johnny dixon a shot No way no way. I tell you why man you don't think so. No i'm james dixon. Maybe not johnny dix. I think i think he can play special teams man. Mazzola dallas cowboy. I remember i remember special teams for dixon row. He's he's he was. He was terrible at returning kicks. Terrible he didn't know vision he couldn't i'm trying to be. I'm trying to be nice. I know you guys. Sam a little rough. Sometimes but every single time he got the ball number one. I know he was trying to earn a roster spot. I don't know he should have been letting go into the end zone because we got the bone the twenty-five but every time he was running. Well that's the that's the problem. You're trying to make a plane and take it out again. I'm not saying where i think he should be. I'm trying to predict the coaches are going to do. Also where they kept playing them. How many times. They kept playing when they kept playing them nor get it bad decision. If they do that but again again. I think it would be out of those too but i think turner gets to not turner might be. He might wind up being returned kits. Once like i don't know if he's a returner type a lot of receivers are though. I'm going to be doing it though right. I mean. I hope not but i'm very concerned about this. I've been talking about. I mean looking at it. It's the same thing return. That's i know dude. I know you would. You would wish that. Like a guy. Like i don't know if see me for hobo has breakaway speed during like that. But i'm like it would have been nice to see him turn a punt just to see what he's got. I don't know i'm not. I'm not the coaches were saying. They're just putting him back there for that. And maybe they're not really showing. Maybe who's actually going to return the kicks. Maybe there you know what i mean. Maybe they know they're going to get rid of these guys and just wanted to see what they got you know and this is sometimes too. I know for a fact for no one guys. That played in league coaches really taken like to somebody they want him to get some shine to maybe get a job somewhere else and not clear ray waivers you know what i mean when they release them. So there's a lot that goes into the camp mom again though i would give the nod to turner okay and and either put i. I'm trying to guess. Because you see a lotta dixon man. So they're either put them out there because they like this You know so you know. Or they're just like listen kid with cut. You're gone but i wouldn't be surprised. As for hokuto makes the development squad and and again he won't he clears waivers. That's the problem. That's the problem with seem if a hobo. There's a team out there that might find a role for this kid. Say we we know right. So i think it's either going to be but i think it's gonna be me turner or maybe they listen. Maybe they hold onto all who knows you know what i mean i. I know. there's very possible. They keep seven very good. They could cook because now look as we move over to the office of line. You know you have the starters. Entice myth tile zack martin collins and obviously connor williams Will be there but then behind him. The problem i have is that this team is very deep on the offense line because we saw it when other starters weren't playing Guys that are definitely going to be there. Are i believe connor mcgovern because there was people actually inquiring to trade for him so people there is interest there. So he's staying. I think i i'm not sure. If taryn steals done enough. I kept talking about. How like shaped his new body and he looks good and this that but to me i think he's a turnstile over there right about him today in today's game today he had a couple of moments where i'm like all right. It's just stay there long enough. You know like get the job done and you'll be okay starter to starting defensive correct correct. So he's doing. It was in bad. Yeah so he's a he's a backup though right. Yes rebecca. So so steel mcgovern. I can't get behind nikki. i can't i think he's i don't know he's not to me..
"53 man" Discussed on Blogging the Boys
"We signed. We signed cooper rush. And everyone thought cooper russia's gonna start that week but then signed gary gilbert who didn't even know tone moore's playbook and they started him against pittsburgh right so that's pretty telling. Yeah that's pretty telling a character. So i think why would cooper rush. Be the better quarterback. Now that gary gilbert actually knows. I agree. And i the problem is i agree with that. Garrett gilbert gilbert free is going to be the dallas cowboy. qb to at that. It's almost don't i think i liked. I liked him a lot man. Okay against and that's what we're gonna roll with. And that's it. And then i was also don't i was way way too optimistic with and i just say listen. I'm not really. I do not think chee is a problem if that was one hundred percent and he didn't hurt his shoulder he might have gotten cut but they still. She can carry whoever they want until this tuesday and pretty much everybody you saw from the second third and fourth quarter is going to be gone. It was. it was pretty ugly football. The i will say this about today's game and there are certain people that were in that game the entire almost the entire game. That are gonna be there going. Forward djibril cox was there the entire. He was gonna lot of reps. And that's great because you gotta see as much as you possibly can from these later. Round draft picks but the the issue i have. Is you know you're out there if they're touting heavily about kelvin joseph and nation right right the touting about how they're good in there and they look great and camp then. Those guys shouldn't be on the field and that's what they disagree that led to another injury. Now we're deal with another injury. Injuries are gonna happen. Here's my problem. Who do we think we are. That were all these other teams. Tom brady is playing three drives. You got all these teams playing their starters. What what makes our starters think that the were that flawless that we're that grade. They shouldn't be getting reps right. I just think this is a complete precautionary. Move by the dallas cowboys. Because we remember. Do you remember opening game with no real play last year. Yeah we stunk. Yeah okay well. That's going to be back again. That's going to be zeke again. I'm better barely got anything. The only one that kind of played a little maybe cd lamb and got. But i met a lot of our players. What is jalen. Smith's shoulder pads doing off during this game. Why isn't he playing. I agree i agree. Why is cut. Why are we using cox for four quarters. We know he's going to start. And then you put to nutrient. Who's going three and out. I mean it was good to see cox. He was all over the place. But i meant that now. That worries me more. You know what i mean is i want him to get rats but now why don't you take now with now. It's getting we've seen enough of cox. Now yes with no. I was going to say though. So what did you think of The two are hardy and now they got some decisions to make. Because you know with the with the injury to rico then if you wanna die right and we can start narrowing down this team because look this game is coming on and we can't. There's nothing good that. There's nothing good to say about the game other than the fact that trevor lawrence is pretty good on his ailing he might be okay but then he drop dimes over our backups. I mean there was. Burton was in there. And i don't think i've ever seen a corner play that bad. Since there was no energy when game started literally that team this this game and i know that blogging. The boys is already covered it with a post show. But that game was was like okay. It's just on the schedule. Let's get through it like let's just get through. There was nothing there. They know they're getting cut. Well that that could. Here's the thing if you believe you do. Almost that's getting opening your lockers seeing the pink slip in their when they're telling people you're not dressing you're not addressing you're listening and you're dressing and there's probably some guy's already said to listen you played well. Let's see what you can do for this game. You know what maybe we could. Maybe we could get you know. There's a lot here but not every player that's gonna start via backup was. There's a lot of people that dressed. I know but i'm saying is it's coming out of the majority of the people that played or not going to be there. But i guarantee you if we look at who who is starting to third and fourth quarter. That's going to be the eighteen nineteen players that are getting cut again to you. But we're talking about the first and second quarter we're talking about when they started and i think like i said i think they were just trying to get by and get ready for tampa honestly. They just didn't seem like they were showing you much. There was no razzle-dazzle. There was no creative. Play calling it was very like just drives miles gear plane. Best player i was i was very. I was very surprised at some of the preseason. Well here's the thing. What makes me nuts. Is that like jacksonville jacksonville. Who we just played. Obviously just lost their anti any and james robinson. Running the ball for two quarters. And i'm like that's your guy like what are you doing. Get off the field. But again this is james robinson. He's not zeke. so i don't know. I i think that a lot of these coaches and they want them to be re like they don't want their first game tell you what the first time. They're getting. hit right or wrong. If jimmy johnson was the head coach right now these guys playing they would have played. They would've played played. If you go back and i bring itself on how old school dallas characters in communication on those pages Do you don't understand. these guys. Like roger staubach harvey they all play these preseason games.
"53 man" Discussed on Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"If you know, one of the things I've learned over the years, covering the Patriots is like They don't especially now, look, everyone's on vacation in the NFL, including the Patriots, and there's no shame in that. Normally, there's a break in a lot of stuff that goes on Thursday, then about the couple of days, the week, when Camp supposed to start, I think, I think the Patriots are supposed to report around July 28th 29th. And then they start, I think practice on a weekend in the first three tracks just can't be patted. A lot of stuff gets done the week of training for this started training camp or the first week of training camp and off. So it doesn't surprise me if not much is going on with the Patriots on the contract front that if Gilmore thought this was a locked that he was going to get an extension from the Patriots or were they were going to rectify everything. We would not see a tweet like this. So, I mean, to me it sounds like gilmour's not thrilled about what's going on, but Look time is on the Patriot side a little bit overly alarmed, but like we talked about, I think Gilmore realizes how key is to this defense. My other thought, Nick is this guy just realized that he's coming off a torn quad, right? Like, sometimes I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Like first of all, he was not, I'm not defensive player of the year. Last year. He had a good season. I wouldn't say it was a great season, he got off to a slow start. It was very inconsistent, and he's coming off a torn quad and he thinks you should be paid $15 million dollars for the season. Now, I'm if I'm the Patriots I'm like no I need to see you on the field. Then we could talk about it, but after that, I don't have a problem with, with, with pushing the contract issue with Gilmore's. Just, you know, what's his reaction going to be? Yeah, I don't have an issue either. I mean, he is now on the other side of thirty years old, which is a thing, as you said, you know, he he got his money. I mean, he got a huge deal the last time around. The Patriots, gave him that little bump last year, they pushed money into the last year to, to make them happy and I understand him looking and saying I deserve more money than I'm going to make this year. I don't disagree with that, but I also don't disagree with the Patriots, saying, Hey, listen Stefan, you're not worth, you know, top four or five money right now. When you're coming off the quad, when you have, you know, the age situation that you have right now. There are reasons why there are legitimate reasons why, the Patriots might not be willing to pull the trigger outside of. Oh, they're just cheap and there is legitimate reasons why you might not want dead. Funnel a four-year, big fat ass contract extension to McGill more right now, until at least, like you said, you see him on the field. You see how he's moving around? You see what he looks like you say, is this? I don't know what he meant by it. I mean, I think we can look at this a couple of ways we can look at him kind of making a statement to the Patriots and saying, oh, okay, so you guys won't pay me off. All these dudes, look at what they're getting paid. The other part of it. You can look at though and just say Gilmore could look at it say well, oh, okay, so those are the highest paid quarterbacks in the league..
"53 man" Discussed on Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"I'm not behind closed doors, but watching him on the field, his ass was burnt deep over and over and over again. And he would get snookered by double moves constantly. Maybe Belichick believes know the dudes better than that, we can coach him up and he will be fine. And if Gilmore doesn't bring his ass back then we'll have JC Jackson will have Jalen Mills I think will be good with Jones in the slot will be fine. We'll be able to make it with Brian. As the fourth guy on the depth chart. Maybe I would say that's a risk obviously, but maybe that's what he's thinking. We didn't draft the guides cuz we got Mills. Anything else you want to cover cuz we gotta move along it to the Gilmore tweet. I also obviously we want to have the question of the week. Anything else as far as this secondary at safety, what stick Bots to you special teams? I don't think would surprise anybody folk. Bailey Cardona Slater Davis vessel Brandon King is the guy that is on the outs..
"53 man" Discussed on Greg Bedard Patriots Podcast with Nick Cattles
"Greg? How you doing my man. What's up? That's how we're going to start this podcast today with a WhatsApp from Gregory. All right. So last podcast we had, we looked at the offense. We looked at the, you know, the beginnings of the 53-man roster as you explained. Last week, what you did was you went back, last few years, you took a look at week number two, and looked at the averages. For each position, for example, Patriots on average, usually carry six, guys on the edge. Usually the last few years and then you took those numbers. Try to figure out your own numbers. See what the roster looks like again last week it was offense, this week it is defense but let's first get into the biggest issue overall before we look at position-by-position. There could be as many as eleven, twelve new players on this roster. Greg on this side of the football, just talk about the influx of talent and how that affected your decision ma'am? Yeah. I think it's huge and and I think it's huge for this team and I think it's going to be huge in the roster Cuts. We talked about, just the on on the offensive side of the ball, the impact that the receivers and the tight ends that they signed are going to have. And I would say it's it's it's an even bigger quote, unquote problem on the defensive side, when you talk about Iraq look they have to account for Dante Hightower. Matthew judon Kyle Van Noy Davon godchaux, how Henry Anderson? Yeah, I mean I I wouldn't say he's a lock to meet the team but I say it's pretty close. Jalen Mills, actually, I have Henry inch and listed twice but that's okay. Christian bar, morgue Ronnie Perkins as top draft picks. And so, that's eight guys right there. Then you have montravius Adams, who they signed, who has been a fixture as the sort of sub interior pass-rusher, almost the Adam Butler replacement for now, who knows? It could be bar more by the end of camp. We don't know. So maybe that clears up an issue, Joshua blood. So the safety that they drafted who was dealing with wrist surgery so we haven't seen him on the field and in a guy like Raekwon McMillan who from appearances at Camp. It looks like he's going to be in the mix. So you just talk about all those guys. You know you're talking ten, eleven twelve players that now you have to make room for and if you look at the defense job, They ended up last year. Yes. They there were five guys who weren't backed Simon Butler Calhoun. Jason McCourty, Terrence Brooks and then if if if you even say treze Hall, a team spent who, who were on the roster and last year I you swapped them out. You're still talking about three, four, or five guys that you need to find space for On the App Store. Because really the the the numbers for the 25-man roster, don't really change all that much. They're usually between defense and special teams players there around 28 29 every year. And so now now you're talking about if you are accounting for all these players who goes into me off, You're talking about, you're going to have to trade or cut some recent draft picks, that haven't worked out a lot earlier than Patriots. Normally do. I mean, Nick, I don't know what you think, but I don't see any other way around it than that. Yeah..
Breaking Down the New York Giants Initial Practice Squad
"Other thing going on with the giants roster is the shaping of their practice squad. We're not gonNA project who we think is going to be on the practice squad because as were recording it, we should receive some type of news by the end of the day Sunday, who is on the practice squad for some reason? You probably noticing this to the giants have been taking their time. To the fullest extreme to put in all this information, their fifty three man roster I think was announced. Ten or fifteen minutes after the required four o'clock deadline. Meanwhile, every other team had already gotten their stuff in before that chalk that up to Dave gettleman and Joe Judge trying to take their time in re be very detailed with it. They also this is official that we already talked about some of the claims but they have claimed offense tackle Jackson, Barton, wide receiver, Damian Rally, and then also safety Adrian Colbert they could either end up on the roster or be pushed to the practice squad. But the one thing that's worth noting and we're GONNA talk about the practice once official on another episode but it's worth noting that this season the practice squad is very. Very unique. It's bigger than it typically is and teams are going to be using it as a shuffling group that if someone gets sick, they can send them home quickly, sign them to come play right away they're gonNA travel. I would bet with most of if not all of these guys and have the bill availability to sign them immediately in the case of an emergency yet honestly to for me, that's kind of a step closer to what the practice squad should be anyway I I've never really liked the practice squad the way it has been where it's limited the guys who can be on it are very limited in the amount experience they can have and. They're really not protected at all. So any team can basically swipe a player off any other teams practice squad on very little notice. and. To me I I really do like these changes to the practice squad rules. The fact that it's bigger that the teams can keep more players around they don't have quite the same constraints on. Experience that we've seen in years past and the fact that they can promote guys from the practice squad to the active roster on basically ninety minutes notice. So I really like the flexibility that that gives teams and I'm sure we're going to be seeing teams take advantage of that this year probably in ways that the NFL isn't exactly planning on. And I wouldn't be surprised if there are certain aspects of this short-term practice squad for this season that are maybe tried to be translated into next year or come next CBS negotiation asked for by the players. So more players can stick around and be retained by their various teams it. It is a lot better like you said, Chris compared to way the way. That they've done it previously, it's better to have more guys if you can carry as many guys as they are allowed to this
Packers make cuts, trim roster to 53 players
"The Green Bay Packers announcing their initial 53 Man roster. You can see the entire roster at W. T m j dot com. The most notable cut is that of wide receiver Jake Kumerow. He was expected to be on the team and be a top four wide receiver. The Packers do keep seven of their nine draft picks. They do not have any undrafted free agents. To make it onto the 53 Man roster. Expect some more moves before the final game day roster is put together prior to their game against the Vikings coming up next weekend
Tracking Packers’ cuts down to initial 53-man roster
"For the Packers today's practice at Lambeau. The final workout before roster cuts the initial roster due to the league by three o'clock Saturday afternoon. Packers working out wide receiver Devin Smith today a former first round pick of the Dallas Cowboys, who was recently let
Final 53-man roster projections for all 32 NFL teams
"We're to get into the fifty three man roster. So today, we're going to make some projections I did a roster projection heading into training camp was on July twenty seven I had Jalen Hurd making the team I had Sean Coleman making the team. I had a few other players that they're just not going to make the team for whatever reason. So we're going to do that again today after trying to cap after all the news after everything we've seen and read and it will let's just compare to see what's changed since. So start with the first things first quarterback, Jimmy, Garoppolo, nick, mullins, CJ, Beathard I think they all make the roster I. Don't think that that's going to be very you know very controversial. It should be. I mean yeah. I I. Agree I all three of them making the roster as well. Especially, this season with Cova did I imagine that most teams will try to carry three quarterbacks if they can especially just given you know you never know. What happens if Garoppolo or mullins or you know they were to test positive or whatever the case is right and they were mistime than having Beth who understands the system? He's not great by any means just having them in the building is going to be advantage. Advantageous this season. I made this comment to someone else earlier Beth. `Red to George Kettle is Kinda of like you know James Jones or Mike Miller was. and. Lebron he's like teams back in the day. He used to have like those guys like travel with him. I think CJ beathard and George kind of like that George must have somewhere in his contract that Caesar method must be on the roster wherever he is. Those our buddy buddy but jokes, apart I I think all three of them will will make the team. So that's funny. You say that because Caitlin Beth one throwing to kill this off season for the most part it wasn't. Garoppolo. So maybe there is this weird clause in the contract right? I mean I feel like I could make a stronger argument where you carry two quarterbacks as opposed to three just playing the odds last year I can understand it as you know Garoppolo is coming off an injury. So you want to just protect your quarterback you WanNa make sure that you know united last minute fishing for a quarterback but you know he's out there he looks comfortable. No knee brace. In just in this situation I just can't understand a situation where. What are the odds that your third quarterback plays a snap in the regular season game just play the is I imagine that's less than ten percent very, very low at imagine. Right if we're going to do that, yet are the likelihood of a quarterback testing positive for having that whole situation happened shared night. There's a possibility that can happen without. It'd be a risk that I'd be willing to take, and I would much rather have you know a position player as opposed to you know a third string quarterback that major. May Not like the is that he throws a pass on likely and he's not going to help you in special teams or anything but that's I mean that's a Shanahan's ways and I don't see that changing I. Wonder if that will change you know this year with mullins and method both moans is a restricted free agent, right? Yeah. MULLENS will be back. He's restricted free agent. CJ BEATHARD is directed So hopefully, this is the last we've seen of method. CONHAM. I. Hope they don't some deal but Yeah it's tough. Especially, you know when you're having. Debates over other positions trying to like squeeze some other guy and you've got who's affected taking roster spot and like you mentioned, what are the odds that he plays right? but just given. Kyle and where they draft method and what they're trying to do I think they're gonNA, they're gonNA keep him on the roster rather than just swallow their pride and cut him. So both said before the pod before we hit record, this is what we think is going to happen not necessarily what we would do if you were in charge fifty, three man roster so.