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More Than 1.7 Million Travelers Nationwide Passed Through Airports Ahead of Mother's Day
"And numbers not seen since the early days of the pandemic. Travel is back. Travel Security Administration officials screen more than 1.7 million travelers on Friday. That's the most since the beginning of the pandemic. The last time that many passengers streamed through the nation's airports was March 12 2020. The global pandemic was declared the day before bringing travel to a near halt in the weeks that followed all around the world. Wendy Gillette.
House Republicans Schedule Vote to Oust Liz Cheney
"Plan this week to vote on whether to boot Congresswoman Liz Cheney from her role as conference chair. Cheney coming under fire after she voted to impeach President Trump and for pushing back on his claims of widespread fraud in the 2020 election, Minority leader Kevin McCarthy tells Fox News he will back representative Elise Stefanik to take over America
Rep. Stefanik Supports Recounting of 2020 Election Ballots in Arizona
"Liz Cheney in the House GOP leadership. Has spoken out for the first time since being endorsed by Key Republicans. W T. O P S Capitol Hill correspondent Mitchell Miller today on the Hill, New York Congresswoman Elise Stefanik breaks with Cheney, who has urged Republicans not to continue former President Trump's efforts to undermine the 2020 election results. Asked on Steve Bannon's radio show what she thinks of the audit in Arizona Stefanik had this response. I police support the audit in Arizona. We want transparency and answers for the American people. What are the Democrats? So Afraid of. As for her vision of the party, Stanek says she wants to continue to run with the support of Donald Trump and his coalition. This is also about being one team right now. The GOP team has some very different game plans on Capitol Hill, Mitchell Miller
U.S. Birth Rate Fell 4% in 2020
"CDC says the U. S birth rate fell 4% this past year, the largest single year decrease and nearly half a century the rate dropped from Mom's of every major race and ethnicity and in nearly every age group Falling to the lowest point since federal health officials started tracking it more than a
US Birth Rate Falls 4% in 2020
"Public health officials report. The U. S birth rate declined 4% last year, biggest one year decrease in nearly a half century. Experts say that drop is likely due to cope in 19 and its economic impact. But researchers are working on follow up given that many of those pregnancies began before the pandemic hit the U. S. Birth rates dropped for Mom's of every major race and ethnicity and in nearly every age group baby sees Mark Rima lard
Liz Cheney Criticizes Trump's Election Lie
"Led effort to tighten some state voting laws is getting a new burst of support from former President Trump. Where CBS senior White House and political correspondent Ed O'Keefe, We will win the Senate, former President Trump and Wyoming congresswoman least, Cheney or Gods once again In a statement Monday, Mr Trump said the fraudulent presidential election of 2020 will be from this day forth known as the big Lie. Cheney fired back tweeting. The election was not stolen. Anyone who claims it was is spreading the big lie. Turning their back on the rule of law and poisoning our democratic system. Janey is facing primary challengers back home and could face another challenge to her position, is the third ranking House Republican with growing calls for her ouster from colleagues upset she keeps fighting publicly with the former president. Recent polls show most Republicans agree with Mr Trump. Seven in 10. Don't consider President Biden the legitimate winner of last year's election, and CBS News political analyst Leslie Sanchez says those air hard numbers for GOP leaders to ignore this is less an issue of being loyal to trump and more an issue of ensuring that the Republicans within their state feel that is a fair and legitimate election. Moving forward. Now. Texas Republican legislators air debating proposals to stop elections officials from sending unsolicited absentee ballot requests Ad stricter I d requirements for mail voting and make it easier for partisan poll watchers to observe his voters cast ballots. People
Trump Brands 2020 Election "The Big Lie," Liz Cheney Hits Back
"The former president today launched a grenade into the battle for control of the republican party. Ever since he lost trump of course has been pushing the big lie that he won this morning. He took that to a new level with this statement quote. The fraudulent presidential election of twenty twenty will be from this day forth known as the big lie. See what he did there. Liz cheney a republican who is a member of the leadership in the house and who is a favourite target of trump posted this shortly after trump said that quote the twenty twenty presidential election was not stolen anyone who claims it was his spreading the big lie turning their back on the rule of law and boy zoning our democratic system hours later trump attack cheney in another statement calling her a quote big shot warmonger and claiming quote. She'll never run in a wyoming election again. Cheney voted to impeach trump. you'll recall after the january six riot and beat back an effort to take away her house. Leadership post that has not stopped her from criticizing trump and nbc. News has indeed confirmed report of comments. She made today during a conference held in thailand georgette quote. We can't embrace the notion. The election is stolen. It's a poison in the bloodstream of our democracy. We can't whitewash what happened on january. Six or perpetuate trump's big lie. It's a threat to democracy. What he did on january. Six is a line that cannot be crossed. Well tonight axios reporting house. Republicans are moving closer to ousting cheney from leadership. She's in the number three position. Currently replacing her with another woman from the house. Ranks washington post writes that those republicans who won't spread the false claim of stolen election. Find themselves increasingly out in the cold.
Stubhub to Refund Canceled Events After Pandemic Complaints
"StubHub tells The Associated Press. It is now offering some customers cash refunds for tickets to events that were canceled during the pandemic. It creates an exception to a no refunds policy it adopted in March 2020 that led to complaints and lawsuits
Disneyland Reopens for First Time in More Than 400 Days
"Day is finally here for Disneyland in Disney California Adventure. The Anaheim theme parks are opening for the first time in more than 13 months after closing due to the pandemic. Gavin Doyle is a long time Disney enthusiast who started the website Mickey visit dot com, he tells the California report plenty of restrictions will still be in place, including capacity being limited to 25% for now. Masks are required for all guests, as well as the attendance currently is limited to California residents on Lee. That, of course, could shift in the future. But for right now, because Disneyland you're inside, you're outside. It's a full experience of the day. The mass requirement remains in place. Most of the park's rides will be open. Those some are closed for pandemic safety reasons. Costume characters won't be giving out hugs either, but will be posing for pictures from balconies and from stages across the park. Doyle says the reopening isn't just important for Disney fans and the thousands of employees who work at the parks but also for the entire city of Anaheim, which relies so heavily on tourist dollars coming in. Show me hotels have been closed for over a year. I actually just checked in to the best Western Stovall's and the best Western Stovall's has not served a guest. Since March of 2020 were the first people staying back. And when I checked in seeing the look on the face of the front ash manager, her saying, welcome back, almost coming to tears. The park ended its annual pass program earlier this year. But the president of Disney Resorts announced yesterday that a new program is in the works, and it's expected to debut later this year. Let's
US Economy Rebounds as Pain Caused by Pandemic Eases
"And growing jobs. The government this morning gives us some real numbers on where things stand. Here's He's Erica Turkey. 2021 started with an economic bang as the country started to shake off the effects of the pandemic, The Commerce Department said. Gross domestic product jumped by a 6.4% annual rate in the first quarter, and the Labor Department said there were fewer people applying for the first time last week for unemployment benefits. Weekly jobless claims dropped to a pandemic low 553,000, the lowest level since March of 2020 vice president Kamila Harris, telling Good Morning America that the president is committed to pulling the country back from the pandemic. And he said last night that jobs will be the key to doing that to the work that he has been doing and the words of
Apple Q2 Earnings Crush Analysts' Estimates With iPhone, iPad, Mac Sales
"Tech giant reporting fiscal second quarter sales of $89.6 billion that was up 54% from the same period in 2020. Bob O'Donnell is president and chief analyst of Tech Analysis Research. He told us that Apple strong performance was fueled by sales of Ipads, Max and five G iPhones, especially in China. China numbers are also looking really good almost double from a year ago. So that's that's a clear sign of the fact that the iPhone 12 having five G. That's what was critical for China because Five. The networks are very widely available in China, and without a five the phone Apple was at a real disadvantage. IPad in Mac sales also nearly doubled. Analysts say these results show Apple's control over the supply chain and its ability to outmaneuver competitors. Apple shares are up 2.6% in extended trading quote. Coma, the world's largest smartphone chip maker,
Census Shows US Population Growth Slowest Since the Great Depression
"From the 2020 Census Aaron showing the U. S population growth has slowed to its lowest rate. Since the Great Depression and the nation's political center of gravity kept shifting farther to the Republican dominated South and west. It was a big U. S population shift over the last 10 years, the South Korea the fastest over the last decade, with the 10.2% increase in population, followed by the West, with 9.2%, acting Census Bureau chief Ron German, saying the Northeast lost more than 4% of its population. The Midwest shrank by more than 3%.
US Launches Investigation Into Louisville Police Practices
"Into Louisville's policing practices. The investigation comes as police in this Kentucky city are under fire after the March 2020 fatal shooting of Briana Taylor. She was unarmed and in her home while police were executing what's called a no knock search warrant. Good afternoon. I'm joined today by our recently confirmed Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco and I recently confirmed Associate Attorney General. I need a Gupta. They are leaders of great ability and integrity. And I am very happy that they have returned to serve again at the Justice Department. The department is stronger or their presence. United States Department of Justice is a federal law enforcement agency comprised of thousands of law enforcement officers who collaborate with and support our colleagues throughout our nation's police departments. We are uniquely aware of the challenges faced by those Serve as police officers. You see their commitment firsthand every day, and we recognize the complex issues that make their already difficult jobs even harder. The Justice Department is also charged with ensuring that the constitutional and federal statutory rights of all people are protected. As I explained last week, Congress has authorized the department to conduct pattern or practice investigations. Help it fulfill that responsibility. Those investigations and the recommendations and actions that ensue do not only protect individual civil rights They also assist police departments developing measures to increase transparency and accountability. Those qualities are necessary to building trust between law enforcement and the communities they serve. And community trust is essential to making policing more effective and less dangerous or officers on the street. Today. The Justice Department
Justice Department Launches Investigation Into Louisville PD
"A civil rights investigation of the Louisville police practices boxes. Jeff Man also has this live police attorney General Merrick Garland launches a probe into the Louisville Metro PD to look for patterns of excessive force and unconstitutional policing. Recommendations and actions that ensue do not only protect individual civil rights. They also assist police departments in the developing measures to increase transparency. Accountability investigation follows the 2020 police shooting death of Rianna Taylor. The Justice Department last week also launched a federal civil rights probe into the Minneapolis police Department after the conviction of former officer Derek Chauvet in the death of George Floyd. Lisa. Thanks
Unprecedented Challenge to Biden's Presidential Win Underway in Arizona
"Nearly five months after the presidential election was certified in Arizona. An unprecedented challenge to President Biden's narrow win in that state is underway. On Friday, a private company began a hand recount of more than two million ballots in Maricopa County, which includes Phoenix. The audit was ordered by the Republican led state Senate and follows false claims by some Republicans, including former President Donald Trump of fraud in the 2020 elections. This audit is also interfering with the efforts by Republicans who control the Legislature to pass new voting legislation. Then Giles with member station Cage's joins us now from Phoenix. Hello. Lou. They can't seem to let it go. So tell us about this audit. How did it come about? Well. It started in December, when Republicans first demanded an audit of the election specifically in Maricopa County, the largest county in the state. Their original subpoena was to gain access to ballots and the county's voting systems. It was tied to an effort to try to upset Biden's victory before it could be certified by Congress. Maricopa County election officials, Democratic senators the State Democratic Party, They want nothing to do with this. They say. It's a sham run for conspiracy theorists by conspiracy theorists now that the election is over, and Biden is an office those Republicans are saying they just want to find any problems. If there are any so they can introduce bills to fix them. And here's a Doug Logan. He's the CEO of cyber in inches. Firm the Senate hired to run the audit, speaking about what he thinks is the purpose of the all this. There's a lot of Americans here myself included. That really bothered the way our country is being ripped apart right now, way want transparent audit be in place so that people can trust that the results something get everyone on the same
Judge Calls Temporary Halt to Arizona Election Audit
"A judge in Arizona ordered a temporary stop to a Republican led effort to recount ballots from the 2020 presidential election from member station Cage's in Phoenix, Ben Giles reports. The suspension, though, will not go into effect. Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Christopher Corey made his order contingent on the state Democratic Party. Hosting a $1 million bond. The party declined. But the judge also ordered that private firms hired by Senate Republicans, toe audit voting systems and recount 2.1 million ballots cast in Maricopa County must follow state election laws. Those firms led by the Florida bass tech companies. Cyber Ninjas must present evidence in court on Monday, showing there in full compliance with laws to protect voter information and the confidentiality of ballots. The Democratic Party filed the lawsuit on Thursday. Attorneys argued the firm is unqualified to conduct the review and has already run afoul of the state's election
Parents Sue Father Accused of Hiding Kristin Smart's Body
"College student Kristin Smart have sued the father of the man charged with killing their daughter nearly 25 years ago. The lawsuit says smarts body was buried in Ruben Flores, his backyard and that he moved it under cover of darkness to another location after investigators searched his property in February of 2020. That mirrors claims made by prosecutors this week when they charged Reuben Flora's with being an accessory after the alleged murder. He was released from custody yesterday after posting $50,000 bail. Son, Paul Flores is being held without bail. He's accused of sexually assaulting and murdering smart in 1996 on the Cal Poly San Luis Obispo campus, where both were freshmen. Lawsuit against Ruben Flores seeks damages for intentionally causing emotional distress by helping his son cover up the crime. It says Flora's God help moving the body from two unnamed accomplices who will later be added as defendants in the case.
George W. Bush Reveals Who He Voted for in 2020
"People magazine. Yes, about who he voted for. Yes, I did. Yes, I think I think most people think he voted for Joe Biden. Until I read the article. I was one of them. You know, I'm I'll be honest with that. Never thought he could vote for Joe Biden. I'm not saying I thought he voted for Donald Trump, right? I just don't think I ever thought he could vote for Joe Biden and I wouldn't be not going who he did vote for. Oh, he did he did you know, he wrote in Condoleeza Rice? Yeah. Write in vote. Yeah. I would have guessed Joe Biden all day long because Just to get back at Trump. Yeah. Love. Did he say who he
"2020" Discussed on Climate 2020
"In America for me, the question is what about the people who need to be persuaded one way or another during the course of the campaign, and that's when reason why I'm asking about it during our swing voter project. And what are you finding? Well what we found is that climate change global warming. However you frame, it is not a a number one issue when you ask people what their number one issue is. I've acid in every focus group. Known has said at a global warming climate change. They are their top issue. If you ask them if it's the top five issue. Portion of them will say yes. for them to kind of fits in between the two. Poles of it's not a hoax, and it's not an emergency. It's kind of. It's a problem and they'll just say yeah. It's a problem gotta to deal with it, but there's no sense of urgency attached to it rich, that reminds me of one of the focus groups that you did and talked about on CNN. It was a group in Edina, Minnesota and based on what you said there. Those folks didn't care a whole lot about climate. Yeah! Generally speaking the issue is one where It's not the thing that drives them day to day. A lot of them are driven by issues like the economy immigration education healthcare. It's not the thing that bubbles up when we say what's top of mind for you and that that's that's been common across all the groups I've done across the upper mid west of. Of Swing Voters of Obama Trump sling voters people who voted for Obama, and twelve, and then trump in two thousand sixteen so rich. Let me let me let me push limit on this on this question. 'CAUSE WE I've seen the same numbers. Tony has as well that swing voters will be determinative in in a number of these battleground states. What if there is? You, know a hurricane in Florida that is super strong, or there is a drought or you know wildfires and the media makes the you know the connections that they're getting better and better at making the climate change, and there's there there floods up and down the Mississippi River and are these client connection. Does that change the calculation, the political calculation in your mind for how these voters view this issue, or is it still at Don Emergency Right now? We'll do that later right now. We got to get our economy back right now. We have to deal with this pandemic and protests in the streets. I would say that it's more the latter that one thing to know about these swing. Voters is a lot of them are low information voters that watching CNN MSNBC or Fox most of them aren't. About roughly a third of watching.
"2020" Discussed on Climate 2020
"2020" Discussed on Climate 2020
"I wish I could give you better news but I think you know the truth and that is that we announced some three hundred delegates behind vice president by and the path toward victory is virtually impossible so while we are winning the ideological battle and while we winning the support of so many young people and working people throughout the country. I have concluded that this battle for the Democratic nomination will not be successful and so today. I'm announcing the suspension of my campaign. David Bernie Sanders dropped out of the race. Five days later he endorsed Joe Biden Jeff and just in the past week other progressives like Elizabeth. Warren and Tom Steyer have thrown their support behind Biden too. And when you add in Barack Obama's endorsement it's really clear that there is tremendous pressure unite around a Democrat who can beat Donald Trump. But here's the big looming question. Ken Biden unite the two wings the Democratic Party in Twenty Twenty. This is climate twenty twenty a podcast about climate change in the two thousand election. I'm Jeff Nesbitt. I run climate nexus the climate communications group. I'm here in my corona virus bunker in my home in San Francisco. I'm David Gilbert of the Climate Media Company Years Project coming to you from my home in Garrison New York in this episode. We're going to start with a quick look at what Bernie's dropout means for climate politics. Then we're gonNA hear from another former candidate who still going to be very active in supporting Joe Biden in the twenty twenty election. California billionaire. Tom Steiner. I we you know the next seven months going to be pivotal for this country and it's GonNa be pivotal for this world and so I'm GonNa Focus. I've not taken a day off since I ended my campaign. I I ran. That came being because I cared about what I was talking about and I thought it was important and I was trying to do the right thing and I'm still doing that. We're also going to reflect Tom. Star on a few things what he learned from the presidential race. Why climates left out foreign policy debates and how climate can in fact wbe used as a wedge issue against Donald Trump.
"2020" Discussed on Climate 2020
"We are phasing out nuclear power whether that's a good idea or whether we're just doing that once again in the kind of ad hoc way that we approach so many big problems Is Hard for me to answer. And how about how about the debate about fracking? Where are you in that? Well I think the PR- sad thing about fracking. What we've what we've learned about fracking. Natural gas is burns a lot cleaner than coal in terms of both co two and a lot of other pollutants So a lot of the emissions reductions quote unquote. And I use that term. Advisedly that you see on the books In the power sector in the US come from switching from coal to natural gas now. The problem with natural gas is A. It's still a fossil fuel so it you know there are still inevitably carbon emissions significant carbon emissions but what has turned out to be. I think pretty widely agreed at this point is there's a tremendous amount of leakage in the system as we Go after this. Natural Gas and natural gas is methane. Methane is a very powerful greenhouse gas itself so as that methane leaks into the atmosphere from fracking generally We are actually potentially making the problem. Worse as opposed to better and these are there are once again people who would say well the answer to that is to do this better And there are people who say the answer to this is to not allow fracking. Now I do want to say if you were to suddenly cut off the natural gas supply in the US You could not power the country that would be a major major economic shock. Betsy I'm going to guess that by by the summer by early full. We're going to get a barrage of propaganda from the Republicans about how the Democrats are Are Threat to the fracking industry whether it sanders or Biden. So what does the guy like Bernie Sanders? He's the candidate do In a state like Pennsylvania where Hillary lost by forty four thousand votes and there are several hundred thousand people who depend on the fracking industry in in the face of the Republican Blitzkrieg on the on the fracking issue. I you know as a political spent a longtime political reporter before I became a more of an environmental reporter and as a political reporter I would say that Bernie Sanders is in effect writing off Pennsylvania. And that's extremely dangerous for the Democratic Party and I think it's one of the many reasons why you have seen the you know what is derisively but perhaps accurately described as the democratic establishment really rallying around Joe Biden because you cannot write off Pennsylvania and win the Democrats so these are issues that people unfortunately have to confront and think about you know is it. Bernie may be an once again. I don't want to sit here telling people who vote for but you may well decide. I think it's a perfectly legitimate decisions. Say Bernie has a much better. You know more ambitious climate plan but it he if he can't be president. That doesn't do us any good. So that's the situation that we're in so I spent years the National Science Foundation wandering the halls and one of the one of the Nice things about scientists is that they also Even as they're cataloging dire events they also tend to be optimistic that they can solve problems going into the future and one you know so they took you talked to some scientists and technology experts. They feel quite confident. They can figure out how to pull carbon out of the atmosphere. Net carbon negative technologies in. Science will save us. Do you believe that well I I want to say. Just in the case of of carbon negative technologies and pulling carbonated the air it is. It's not just that they think will come up with this. We we know how to pull. Carbon out of the air. Carbon is essentially an acid carbonic acid And if you have a base you can you know you can? You can react with that and you can carbon in the air and it's been done for a long time it's not very You know difficult science the very different the difficulty is that it. It is a process that you know. Basically you requires energy And to do it at a scale that's meaning fall Those are the those. Are The difficulties now? Anything that requires energy requires us to ask the question. Do if we commit ourselves to another process that requires energy when our whole problem is generating carbon-free energy Obviously we're in a bit of a bind there betsy what what's a realistic timetable. For us to see the technology that could scale pull carbon out of the atmosphere. Wow I I can't answer that. I mean as I said the the problem there are two problems. There's one is right now. There's no incentive to do her race so if I can just dump my carbon in the air for free as we're all doing why why would I spend? Let's say at a minimum one hundred dollars a tonne to pull it out so so there's no incentive for anyone to do it and that is why that this technology is is really just at. It's very very very earliest stages right now. Now if you suddenly had a carbon tax that made it Economically worthwhile to do that. I think you could potentially see potentially see a vast scaling up. We are capable of scaling. Things you know I. I interviewed Klaus Lackner. Who's the scientists out at? Asu who sort of considered the father of this technology and he pointed out know. We didn't have iphones roughly fifteen years ago. Now they're saying like seven hundred million of them being used so we are capable of doing things that scale quite quickly if the incentive is there by. You've just talked about the mythical Unicorn like carbon tax at one hundred dollars and change. Yeah I mean this is. This is the thing that we keep dancing around is how do we get from? A to B and. I think that unfortunately if you look at all of the candidates plans that is exactly what's missing. How do we get from A to B? Even if we know what we want to be. How do we get there but one betsy? What are the most Devastating moves that trump has made with respect to climate. Basically there were two components to things moves that Obama brought and this is taking us back in history a little bit but choose the Paris accords where he said the US actually is serious about trying to cut its emissions even though he had a congress. That wasn't willing to do anything he brought to. Regulatory moves to the table. One was a higher auto efficiency standards. imminently doable. But you know a significantly higher than they were and the other was what was called the clean power plan which was way to charge squeeze carbon emissions out of the power sector. Now I I should say that basically the clean power plan goals have essentially been mad Simply owing to you know some of the things. We were talking before about conversion to natural gas to once again depending on how you calculate that but that's another complicated issue But both of those the clean power plan and the the car standards. The trump administration has tried to repeal in the car standards during a big fight with California And the clean power plan there. I guess we'll just you know be in litigation over that Do you think any of those moves those rollbacks by trump our political liability for him in the next election. I think we're GONNA find out. Has that. I mean I do think that his environmental record will be a top of mind issue for many many Democrats now once again. That's obviously not enough that a sector of the electorate is not enough To unelected him. So we're GONNA find out if those swing voters what what what will swing as it were. Those swing voters and. I don't think anyone can predict that at this point so My organization along with Yale and George. Mason University has been polling in the primary states ahead of voting and Some of the battleground states and it's interesting in every single case and and we've been releasing those statewide polls. The climate issue is now clearly the number two issue for Democratic voters everywhere in every single state. It's like right next to healthcare Our hypothesis is that it's that people are are now finally starting to understand the impacts. They're seeing. Is that your sense. As why mid writing? You've been writing about this for a long time But but why are people finally getting it now? At this point I agree with you. I think it is because people feel it. I mean if you're and you don't have to be very old. Which is the scary thing you know. My kids can see. I live in Ski Country What should be ski country and it has. The ski season has become shorter and shorter in. This year. Was practically non-existent I think that everyone is seeing in their own lives as you say climate impacts and certainly if they're not seeing them on a particular day they can read about them somewhere else in the world. Now the thing that's important really important to realize about the climate system and I think is sort of next step in sort of awareness and makes this problem so so difficult. Is that the climate. You have You've already locked in. We've already locked in a lot. More warming that is Because owing to the nursery of the climate system. And we're not really once you get the climate that you don't like which you may be right about now You don't get to turn a switch and say okay. Let's let's go back to what we had. And that's why climate scientists started. You know back in one thousand nine hundred sixty five basically saying you might want to really get a handle on this before you lock in these impacts that you don't want and unfortunately no and listen to them and toll. It was right in front of their faces. And at that point you are looking at a really really dangerous situation. And I'm afraid that's the situation. We're in now or in a situation where we don't have great choices. We have degrees of bad choices and we kind of better get used to it. Better get our minds around that so I have. I have just one more one more question. Her observation to share So last year a bunch of Friends of mine and I we got together and we got. We became sort of obsessed with World War One and we we read a bunch of books on it. We spend a weekend talking about it and you know what an incredibly stupid thing. World War One was halfway through that experience. It occurred to me that I'm expecting the same species that did World War One and couldn't stop it even when they recognized how destructive and lethal technology was that I'm that I'm spending a lot of my time in life Try TO In the hope that that the same species that couldn't stop World War One would be capable of thinking ahead and doing something about climate change so I guess the question there. If they're in there is a question is whether whether the nature of our species works against Solving this problem well I think you have to conclude. The answer is yes just on the basis of our our track record so far and many people have looked at this very smart people have have looked at this and have concluded for for different reasons and in some cases the same reasons. The climate change is a problem that humans are unusually unsuited to deal with. Because it is you know it's a collective action problem and it is also a problem in which the act which you can't you know once you see the problem as I mentioned before you can't just suddenly sauvage quote unquote Whenever I hear people talking about solving climate change I always suspected they don't know what they're talking about And then the the problem that we are you know what we are doing right now. what we will do over the next decade. What would what we did over the last decade. We'll have impacts. You know not just for kids now just for our grandchildren you know literally for hundreds of generations waiting to be born and we are very very bad at that kind of forward thinking So for all sorts of reasons that combine in this kind of but it seems to me kind of absolutely On some level they are the problem and on some level they are emblematic of the problem of species..
"2020" Discussed on Climate 2020
"But I I wanNA tell you that. Climate Twenty twenty is powered by Exelon. The Nation's largest clean energy provider excellent stands with the vast majority of its ten million customers who want cleaner cleaner air and affordable reliable energy for more information visit Exelon Corp Dot Com All right so Jamie. Let's put some numbers to this. How big is this problem? This is a huge problem. So the you've also report takes issue with Youtube Algorithm the way it serves a recommended videos and is up next feature has a huge influence. What people see on the site It's actually responsible fanciful for seventy percent of the time people spend on YouTube. It's responsible for the vast majority of the videos that people actually watch on Youtube so so someone who devised did what you did over the weekend. But but in a more systematic way exactly for the term global warming the term. I searched sixteen percent percent of the top. One hundred related videos. Had this information about climate change so we now know that this is a problem for all kinds of junk. Science and conspiracies. Youtube knows is this is a problem and they end addressed it to some degree. Twenty Eighteen Youtube said it would change the way it pushes people to content and how it flags deceptive videos for reviewers but Based on what you're saying it sounds like that hasn't fully worked no it. Hasn't it's so hard to police. This is an ongoing issue. In fact this week Youtube repackaged this set of standards for the elections saying that it won't allow Dr Videos or voter suppression videos mm-hmm but look Youtube and facebook and twitter these companies see themselves as platforms not outlets that have a journalistic duty to sort through information so this alternative universe of climate is information. It may never go away. The question is how easy will it be to get sucked in and and I just want to be really clear. This is just my experience. I'm a reporter. I'm not a researcher. But my experience was similar to what the report described. A lot of people are watching in commenting on these videos. And they got their through Youtube 's recommendations. But just a few clicks so let's set the context here. Jeff you follow the smearing of Science for decades in your organization climate. Nexus has been covering the Youtube story for a couple of years. So how big an issue is this. Has Youtube fuelled old denial groups that may not otherwise have found an audience. I think this is an enormous issue and it to to set that context the National Science Foundation when I was in SF. I commissioned a report a decade ago that that asked one hundred climate scientists. What do we know about climate change? It was a comprehensive report. The first one really the Federal Government Limited issued to address the entire range of what we know about climate science. My reward for doing that. Was that the Republican staff on the hill. Threaten g investigation to me for politicizing the issue. So that's how far back this goes. This has been a politicized Issue around climate enough for years and years and years. The good news is today. The mainstream media doesn't uncover climb to Noni more but that's not true online. And if you look at what Jamie saw on Youtube Nexus media which is An arm of climate. Nexus has been studying this for a couple years. There's we we wrote a story about this months ago. About how if you wander into Youtube you're gonna find these climate videos that get tens of millions of us. You know one of the ironies of this is that a lot of viewers have gone to youtube because they think that the big media is giving telling lies about all kinds of issues right nearly thirty percent of of of the country's getting news from Youtube. Now I mean that's a huge amount of people and I and I'd be willing to bet you that our Jimmy. How long did you spend on youtube while you were Going through these climate. Denial is spent a solid few hours on Sunday night. Just going down down the rabbit hole and that's just one day of your life. That was lost down that rabbit hole there are some people lose days and weeks and maybe even months down that rabbit hole. I mean think about what that does brain after you've been exposed to all of that over a long period of time. Thanks Jamie Jamie. Kaiser is a producer for climate twenty. Twenty.
"2020" Discussed on Climate 2020
"Ditch coal companies and that's great but there's still huge investors in oil and gas. So so what's the big deal about. Larry fix letter. Would you say well you know. So you're talking. There's a second letter that he sent into his investors. This time. That was really interesting and it was much more detailed about. Here's what we're GONNA do and yeah they talked about pulling out of some you you know. Companies that had more than twenty five percent of their revenues from thermal coal. It was you know it wasn't as far as they probably should. There's other banks basically saying we're getting out of coal mostly because calls a horrible investment and he says that in the letter. They're moving away from fossil fuels. Because it's just it's not a good investment going forward so he's saying that if we don't manage climate and the and the the footprint of all of our businesses in the economy that we're going to see these devastating changes to the economy and that it's now fiscally responsible to do something about it that this is just not been said this clearly clearly in the financial world again for decades. The idea of pursuing sustainability or climate action has been seen as anti kind of anti-business and against fiduciary do share responsibility. He's flipping that script and a really very key way and if he backs it up. If they're you know they back it up through the actions of changing how how they invest and how they define things in their transparency in all the things he talks about in the letter to his investors. Then it's profound but you know there's a lot that remains to be seen about how they how they really rolled this out. Let's talk about the third passage that you cited the the one that deals with the why. Sure so Larry think has I think laid out in his in his letter quite a few reasons. Why he's saying this but a couple caught my eye so he says last September when millions liens of people took to the streets to demand action on climate change many of them emphasize the significant and lasting impact that it will have on economic growth and prosperity a risk that markets to date have been slower to reflect but awareness is rapidly changing? And I believe we are on the edge of fundamental reshaping of Finance Andrew. We spoke to someone recently who was active given the sunrise movement. WHO said that? Who really takes this letter as a great victory for outs for outsiders for activists for those who've been pressuring blackrock got to change? But Larry think himself has has minimized the impact of of activism incessant. It's really what he's getting from the CEOS of his companies companies and what he gets from just figuring out the long-term prospects of any company that's involved in making the climate worse. So who's right. I mean how much does do the activists have to do with with what blackrock justed do you think you know. It's always hard to say but I think the activism That's been building for years it. It drives a moral argument. A moral case I mean the the divestment movement For a number of years pushing on these investment firms but you know schools universities. It's never really been about if you take money away for oil and gas. It's going to kill their stock. It's been about making them Something you don't want to be associated with that it's there on the wrong side of history. They're they're causing damage. And I think that's actually been effective over over time and so you know it's interesting that he mentions people take to the streets. It's hard not to notice millions of people and kids and so I think look he's making the the financial case but ladies. It's interesting that he mentioned this to say societal changes. I mean look norms change right. Societal norms change things become unacceptable. That used to be acceptable acceptable. And I think we're reaching that point very clearly on climate you know a few years ago you know. LGBT writes in corporations really hit very quick tipping point and the Supreme Court said you know gay marriage is legal. That was incredibly fast. You know after forty years of lead up and the same thing has happened with climate. There's been decades of work but you you know you've got teenagers and young twenty taking to the streets and saying you're screwing up our future and he's you know recognizing that that they're under pressure and frankly the younger members members of their customer base. You know what I've heard in the financial community over the last year or two. Is that the private wealth. World is pushing for impact from their money and wants to know that they're doing the right thing and it's often. It's really the younger members of those. You know wealthy families. So that's you know millennials Gen Z.. So they feel it from their customers and he talks about that and that's tied very closely to this this idea of the youth marching in the street so I think it matters. But I'll tell you when I you hear from executives a lot like why are they may be going down a different path. It is often very personal. It's it's it's it's not just kids in the street. It's their own kids right. They have millennials and Gen Z.. At home and they're hearing it. They're hearing these questions about what's your legacy. What are you working on? Where are we headed so I I think? Of course. It's it's helped push this because it's changed what is expected About Business and bankers and money about the role in society so Andrew despite the devastating lack of action on climate on the on the national level in the national political level. Well what is it. An announcement blocks do in terms of moving the needle on this question. Well it certainly undermines I think one of the the grand statements in the climate denial or the climate go slow community particularly the the political world. It moved from. This isn't happening. It's a hoax too okay. It's happening but maybe it's not all our fault it's not Humi- There's you know the climate changes and there's there's this very common thread of it's happening but it would destroy the economy to do something about it. I I've heard that from senators from business. People will destroy economies and it is really hard to say that when the CEOS of the world are signing up for science based targets and You know massive moves to renewables and the guy who who has the most money under management says it's actually going to destroy the economy to do nothing like climates going to destroy the economy. Doing something about it is the path to long term value creation and thriving. How can you stand there and say oh you know the business community hates the financial world hates us because it's so expensive when they're not saying that anymore and they're actually saying this? Is the path forward for us. I think it it makes it very difficult to be a political denier. You just have nothing to stand stand on anymore Andrew thank you so much for taking time to talk to us today. I'm glad to be here. Thanks for having me again. That was Andrew Winston author author of the book the Big Pivot Jeff. A lot is happening. Here what are you. What do you make of Andrews take that pressure campaigns generational shift in finance and legitimate? Uh Risk are all coming together influence a big decision like this. Why thank Andrew? Has It exactly right again as we've talked about Ler said he didn't respond to activist US pressure. But that's not right. He did he clearly did but he is also recognizing That there is a generational shift and finance and that there is legitimate climate risk underlying a lot of the financial portfolios these companies as well as the financial institutions that lent to them so enders got just right and I think this is a a great arbiter for for what we can see to come in the financial world. You know I really see this black rock action as a as a turning point in a way that a lot of all the things that have happened up till now really haven't been I mean they're so powerful. They are represented as owners in most of the fortune. Five hundred companies if not all of them and and I think it's going to be hard to turn back after this I do and not to dump on Davos much but Larry Fink and black. Rock made this decision And announced is it in a letter to its investors not at Davos and not in these big international climate meetings I think that's an interesting Formula for the future sure. Put the pressure on these companies. Make it transparent force the issue force them to be realistic about the climate risk. And then keep up the pressure. I I think that's an interesting formula for success..
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"Book Justin. I want want you to know that. Climate Twenty twenty is powered by excellent the nation's largest clean energy provider excellent stands with vast majority of its ten million customers who what cleaner air and affordable liable energy for more information visit Exelon Corp Dot Com. That's E. X. E. L. O. N. C. O. R. P. DOT COM SO Jeff. What'd you think about What bill had to say? So there's a decent chance that Donald trump purpose reelected in two thousand twenty imagine if Donald Trump is reelected for those of us who care about the climate issue. What do we do? What do we do? That's what bill is addressing which is why so many of us have been focused on putting pressure on business leaders as well as political leaders the Youth Movement Greta Thune Berg and others have put immense pressure on political leaders. But they're now starting to turn their sights on places like chase and let's take chase for just a moment not to pick on chase so much much but they're the dogs chase Jamie Dimon chases. CEO proudly talks about the two hundred billion dollars. They're going to invest in clean energy and clean tech but but they don't provide any statistics they don't provide any transparency for it. It's impossible for anybody to see how they're actually doing that. Meanwhile they're spending much greater greater amounts lending to the ExxonMobil's of the world to the oil and gas industry. So what bill is talking about. These groups are focused on is can they put pressure sure on chase to both be transparent about their clean energy and clean tech investments but also why in the world are you you funding massive investments investments in the new oil and gas development. I don't think there's much doubt that if this movement could materially affect the amount of money that big banks are lending the fossil fuel companies it would it would really freeze their operations to some degree. Right I mean it would. It would slow them down in In a big way and I wonder whether the climate movement as it's currently gently constituted has the capacity the organizational strengthen the numbers do what bill is proposing. I don't think they necessarily do right now. But they're learning fast fast. You Watch the youth movement is exploding. Millions of kids are joining up. And signing on to this and I'll tell you what this is is what CEOS are worried about that you know when when millions of kids who are digital natives understand how to do this and how put pressure on these companies to change changed direction. That's what CEOS and boards fear. That's why I think what bill is talking about the very well could work and Jeff as you pointed out and we have about four million. Young people bully year graduating from colleges universities. And the purpose of what's happening tomorrow in Washington is to begin to send a message to to all graduates who opened bank accounts and get credit cards. Not to patronize these huge banks. That are undermining a feature of all of them right. Miss the little and and don't underestimate the value of a company's socialize to operate. Yes it's true as we heard from bill and you and your discussion if it's just ten thousand kids chopping up their credit cards. That's not going to make a difference. However when millions of kids start questioning the social license of a company like chase to operate you're threatening the brand rand of a company at that point and that's what kids can do we've seen it over and over and over again when when the tide starts to break against the company for for being on the wrong side of history? They pivot the other incredible story on climate. That's been happening while we've been on break and I know you've been on the slopes out in Colorado Is What's happening in Australia. It's just been incredible to look at some of those images coming out of Australia. The the bush fires that are just endless. Yeah and I I will say that the images in the videos that are coming out of Australia. There's an image of burning buildings in the background with a kangaroo hopping across in front trying to get away from the fires. That image is so stark. There's also a video. Somebody took a video just driving down a plan and you Dec- Hundreds and two thousand of dead animal carcasses all along the side of the road big little both of those things I think are shocking to people now from a political standpoint it was was fascinating no more than fascinating that the prime minister who ran as a climate denier was forced to come back from his vacation and the people. There wanted nothing to do. This guy told they they wouldn't shake his hand. They told him data. Excuse my language but piss off. We don't want you here. You know you weren't here when and our citizens died in the middle of these fires when our livelihoods were destroyed. And you'RE GONNA show up for a photo op. That was really start. Yeah you know. Here's something that aired on a popular morning TV show in England. The other day thought I played for you so piers Morgan. Remember Piers Morgan. CNN was interviewing a senior. Australian politician named Craig. Kelly and Morgan is a is a conservative. He's a Pallet Donald Trump's and Interviews trump fairly frequently. But here's how he ended the interview with the climate denier. Craig Kelly the other day in in London. We'll get the full leaving leaving. We appreciate you appreciate you joining us. We're going to leave it there. I got to go to say White Cup. Thank you wake up. Climate change and global warming are real and Australia. Right now is showing the entire world. Just how devastating it. Ie's I'm for senior politicians Australia to still pretend is no connection is is absolutely disgraceful. Authoritarian might take your head out the sand ditch you head out of the sand Craig. You know it's funny because you you'd never have heard that kind of of a line on Fox News here and I think that to me what this reflection of is that is that politicians left right and center throughout the world are acknowledging the uncontestable truth of climate science here in the United States. We have a president who still dismisses it but in England You know here's a conservative friend. End of trump's who Who tells us to get lost but this is both exciting and depressing all the same time? We're moving into a new face on this issue where it's no longer acceptable to to be a climate denier. What Scott Morrison has said in Australia's okay? Fine climate change is real. I get it. It's devastating but what do we do about. We're responsible for one to two percent of the emissions. So don't put all the burden on Australia to change it you. You see politicians retreating inside of their borders to say. Hey we can't solve the problem on our own. That is really really dangerous. A huge coal lobby in Australia. That Cole is a major major industry. They're they're big exporters of Corey example. Jeff when I look at that the stories coming out of Australia and the fact that those people wouldn't shake hands with Scott Morrison in the areas affected by fire. It does bring home the fact that more and more people whether in Australia or whether they're in Iowa or whether they're in in California or Mexico or Honduras more and more people are experiencing the impact of climate change. And and if you want to understand why the numbers are moving on the climate issue. It's because people in part it's because people are actually feeling the impact act of it which was less true ten years ago which is why there are real lessons for. US politicians. And what's happening Australia. The lessons are this if you deny what's obvious to everybody outside of their windows you're GONNA pay a price you're GONNA pay a political price. It's one of the reasons why in south Florida climate. Emma changes a bipartisan issue. Republicans and Democrats know. The sea level is rising in threatening south Florida in Houston after the hurricane swept through their politicians agents from both parties reacted because they knew they had two more and more. That's going to happen. There are real lessons for. US politicians about what's happening on Australia. You cannot it denied this issue and if you do so you're liable to pay a political price in climate twenty twenty s produced in association with years project in Co created by boom a division of John Marshall Media Funding provided by excellent a company that believes that confronting climate change is essential to maintaining the strength and prosperity at the cities it serves. That's why the excellent foundation launched a twenty million dollar our Climate Change Investment Initiative to fund entrepreneurs finding new solutions to fighting climate. Change for more Info Visit Excellent Foundation Dot Org the show is hosted by me. Jeff Nesbit and me David Gilbert. Sean marquand are sound designer and composer our theme music additional music and cover art art. Kent Nickerson Jamie. Kaiser is our associate producer. Ben Brand Steen is our new production intern. 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"We have to change the world and it has become a generational issue as we're seeing this week. Yeah I mean understandably I just I find the the I rolling ticking. Just blood boiling from certain quarters of folks What do you mean just like Greta? And the climate activists unlike justice idea of like none of this a serious or you know and it's like no serious says that we're approaching civilizational breakdown if we continue and people are like hyperbolic vets crazy. It's like no like actually business business as usual to six or seven degrees is like which is the directory. Ron Probably six degrees by end of century. Business usually just draw the line out. That's like that's like Saifi Shit. It's not that's you know now. I don't think think I don't think everyone sort of agrees that we won't get to six degrees because something will change before them. But then the question is like who's going to do the Who's doing the changing? There's a sort of assumption you know and I just I got to say. I just watched Chernobyl and what were doing particularly this administration is just is on moral par with that just with the effects. Extremely diffuse fuse. But like in if you've seen that in the first senior watching them they're they're watching. The explosion in the radioactive ash is fluttering through the sky. And your just your hearts and your throat and it's like that's every day we're all standing on the bridge every day all of us like day by day by day and it's not it's not radioactive material that will kill us in three days sir three months or give us cancer and four years. It's nowhere near that acute. It's not limited small area but like the fundamental thing which is like the the bad thing spewing out into the air and it's essentially poising all of us interpret poison. Here broadly like that's just the reality of the world. Well that's a great note to end on. Thanks man thank you. Climate Twenty Twenty is produced in association with the year's ears project and his Co created by boom division of John Marshall Media Funding provided by excellent company. That believes that confronting climate changes changes essential to maintaining strength and prosperity of the cities. It serves that's why the Exelon Foundation launched twenty million dollar Climate Change Investment Initiative. I should've fund entrepreneurs finding new solutions to fighting climate change for more info visit Exelon Foundation Dot Org the show is hosted. Advise Me Jeff. Nesbit and David Gilbert Sean. Marquand does our sound designer and composed our theme music additional music and cover art is by Kent. Nickerson associate. Producer is Jamie Kaiser. You can follow us on twitter and Instagram at climate. Twenty Twenty pod. You could subscribe. Scribe now and apple podcasts. Or wherever you listen to podcasts and please considered giving us a rating on I tunes. It helps us get discovered by others who care about climate in politics for more information about US visit us at climate twenty twenty podcasts dot com. And if you have something to share about the show recorded voice memo email to contact at the year's project DOT com. Please come back again next Thursday to hear the latest on climate changing twenty twenty twenty election. Thanks for listening.
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"Hi Welcome to climate twenty twenty podcast about climate change and the two thousand twenty election. I'm David Gelber of the climate media. Accompany the yours project. And I'm Jeff Nesbitt I lead plummet nexus a communications group so in honor of the holiday season. We thought we'd bring. Can you a show that touches on topic every American consumer know something about we're GonNa talk about consumption in just a little bit You'll hear my conversation with journalist. Tatyana Schlossberg Got Jeff and I thinking about our own consumption habits and what the candidates do and say about this on the trail but do you think that the government should be in the business of telling you what kind of light bulb you can have. Oh come on give me a break. We'll all this attention on climate. Jeff is is making People ask questions about the candidates. Consumption Habits client plan that. You're mandating. Everyone Vegan thought that was an interesting. How how much they emissions? They're personally responsible for and you know it's worth at this time of year talking about how much we consume. But I have to say that. I'm a little skeptical about this issue because I think it's very much in the interests of the oil and gas industry to have people worried mainly about how much meat they eat. And how many straws they use it. It's not to say that people shouldn't I this is. This is a dilemma for me But it Jeff. Isn't there a danger that people are gonNA. It gets so focused on their individual consumption patterns. That they're gonNA miss this sort of larger issue here. I would say there is absolutely a real danger here here. I've I've been talking about what I call the personal sacrifice trap That's been laid by slick industry campaigns over the last year or so and what I mean by the personal sacrifice trap. Is this those industries that are responsible for the problem would love to shift blame to us. The consumer. Now that doesn't mean consumers can't lead shouldn't do things That helped the planet and help help the climate issue we should and we do and you know I try to do what I can't. I've been a vegetarian for forty years When I bought cars I tried to buy hybrids and electric vehicles? I try to take public transportation whenever possible muscle but all of that being said there is a clear danger for shifting all the burden on us the consumer and our consumption habits because that shifts blame away from those big interests who are responsible for the problem to us that consumer. Here's one thing I will say about it. I think that it's now the the notion of being more responsible about your personal behavior has infiltrated a lot of schools. A lot of Elementary schools a lot of middle schools. A lot of high schools and I think think that's a good thing because it gets kids at an early age thinking about the the climate issue it does and and they're certainly quite a bit of merit and focusing on a consumption economy and how it affects the environment and to a lesser extent the economy. There's all of those things are good but I wanted to come back because we we've learned this lesson from the past and the tobacco wars. You saw the exact same argument. which was the big tobacco? Companies shifted the blame. It consumers. No you guys are responsible if if you die from lung cancer you have the freedom to choose to smoke cigarettes and die from lung cancer. It's not our responsibly that you want those cigarettes so badly and it was the only years and years and years later that the evidence emerged that they knew that nicotine was the most addictive drug on the planet and that kids were getting hooked from the first a few cigarettes. So Yeah No it's it's really true. I mean I you know I. I don't know it's easy to talk about reducing our consumption patterns. You know we are going to have to do that if we WANNA cut a co two emissions by fifty percent the moon ten years. But honestly I don't know how easy that's going to be for the American in public. Yeah and keep in mind there. Also there's consumption and then there's consumption Some things that consumers do they have no choice over. You can't if you have only one energy provider in your part of the country right You can't choose to find another energy provider but you can make a decision to buy. Why in electric vehicle and not pay money for gasoline? You can make that decision so this consumption discussion. It depends upon what you're talking about some things you know some some things are simply not fixable or changeable. If you're a consumer the things are so it's not a one size fits all proposal totally wrong but wait a second Bernie Sanders fool in private jets than any other person in the race for awhile may still be true but certainly. I know that there's been a lot of talk about for instance. It's just about the the candidates having to flying so much and now it comes out Biden officially wants a super PAC now that his campaign is in dire financial straits after spending so much money on. And I'm not kidding swanky hotels and -CRIBE jets. He knows perfectly well. The private jets indeed all jets fly with fossil fuel. You know I'm really not in a position and willing to blame candidates for president who were flying from one state to another I. I mean it seems like a trivial point to me because I don't know how we're GONNA get from well a formula to To me and that's the point you can't act. There is no easy way to get from Iowa to New Hampshire and then South Carolina then back to Nevada which are the first four states. You don't have a choice. And here's the other thing with with the airline industry. I Ah I know. For an absolute fact that the airline execs would love to get rid of their fuel costs. They would love bits. Their biggest cost cost they would love to not burn jet fuel and if there were green hydrogen and they could you know or they could get two zero carbon emission planes ames they would love to the pace of technology is just unbelievable. It's it's it is possible to imagine those kind of developments. Yeah it is Jeff. I WanNa wish you a great relax vacation stay. Horizontal can and I look forward to January without gun talk We'll be back with our interview with Tatiana Schlossberg in a moment but first jeff and I want you to know that climate twenty twenties twenties powered by excellent the nation's largest clean energy provider exelon stands with vast majority of its ten million customers who want cleaner air and forte notable reliable energy for more information visit Exelon Corp Dot Com Tatiana. Schlossberg is a climate journalist who knows all about Consumerism Sumer ISM and it's ripple effects. She's the author of the book inconspicuous consumption. I had a conversation with her about our personal consumption habits and how consumption Shen fits into the broader global effort to fight climate.
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"Welcome to climate twenty twenty a podcast about climate change twenty twenty. I'm David Gilbert of the Climate Media Company the Years Project and I'm Jeff Nesbitt I founded climate nexus climate communications group. It's Thanksgiving and we're GONNA take the the week off and but we're going to play the entire interview. Jeff did with with Jay Inslee a couple of weeks ago and before we leave today Let's let's say a few words about what we are thankful for here on Thanksgiving. Jeff you take it. I so because Thanksgiving time where you spend the holidays with your. You're with your family. I am genuinely truly thankful for the great work that my kids do. They're all grown. Now might my oldest son started a nonprofit automatic mobile that saving lives all over the world. they work with thousands of community. Health workers in far-flung villages in Nepal in India in countries in Africa and. I'm very thankful for you. Know the work that his his organization does my daughter is up pediatrician in San for Cisco spends her day in the queue at UCSF Children's hospital saving license mice. My youngest son is a lawyer who has taken on big industries. I'm genuinely genuinely truly thankful for the great work that my kids do day in and day out. Jeff I've I've met your Your son Josh who created a medic mobile and I gotTa tell you he is just an absolutely amazing human being and I'm going to nominate him for a Nobel Prize in about ten years. Well thanks for that I well. Of course I feel that way but it's hard for me talk about my own kids objectively. That's fair enough What am I thankful for? Well I am very excited and I guess thankful that Hollywood has done a movie. That's going to come out in about three weeks. Call Just mercy which is story about a guy on death row in Alabama. You'll know what you into down in Alabama you get from the moment you bowl McMillan. We're done missile McMillan please. It's an amazing story in the movie I understand is just superb. It stars Michael B Jordan Jamie Fox and it is based on a story. Ed Bradley and I did when I was at sixty minutes. This was done in Nineteen ninety-two win. It's a it's a story about a story about a guy who was totally innocent and was was being kept on death row in in Alabama both before and after he was convicted And the man was totally innocent. And so I'm thrilled. That our story about Walter mcmillen Olenin Bryan Stevenson will be will be in walls all over America. I'll tell you what David is a powerful strata chance to see an advance screening of it when I was at Sundance Sundance last week And your your name in lights produced by David Gilbert as at Bradley shows up on the screen people are going to love this story. They're they're gonNA love the performances by Jamie any Fox and by Michael Jordan it is a powerful.
"2020" Discussed on Climate 2020
"Hey Jeff we're going to talk to a felony motto Mildenberger. Now he's He's a professor at the University of California at Santa Barbara. And you know he's he's an interesting guy. He's got a lot to say about about candidates and where they stand on climate change. He's a political scientist. He also has a really interesting new. Study out about solar panels else and whether Republicans or Democrats are more likely to have solar panels on their homes and and his findings are are pretty interesting. You looked at at people who have installed solar panels in their homes to see if it makes any difference in terms of their political behavior. Whether or not they have solar solar panels on the roof that right exactly. That's right so one way to think about this is we're able to answer the question. Imagine that you you find yourself in some some neighborhood any random neighborhood in the United States and you're standing in front of a house that has some solar panels on it. What can you know about the ideology about the political behavior of the people who actually live in that house? What we find is really interesting? We find that there is no real partisan gap we find that Democrats and Republicans are equally likely to be installing solar panels on their homes overall across the entire country. There are a few more Democrats than Republicans who have solar but that's entirely function of the fact that solar solar is concentrated in states and locations. That have more Democrats living in them like California but within a neighborhood knowing if someone is Republican or Democrat. Crat doesn't actually tell you anything about whether they have solar not. Okay so what does it tell you. What does it tell you about their behavior if they do have a solar whether Republican or Democrat if they have solar panels on the roof roof? It tells you that they're much more likely to participate in. This is true in both the Democratic and Republican primaries as well as in general elections so we find that that households with solar panels are about ten percentage points more likely to be active political participants in elections which is a really substantial angel gap and while part of that gap can be explained by a household level demographics for instance household income. We can't explain plane all of that variation chest by these demographics and so it really does seem like the types of people who are politically active are also the types of people adopting solar and that it suggests that there is a late into a coalition of Republicans and Democrats across the country. That are already out there who who might be mobilized level is to protect the clean energy wins. That have already happened or could support a sort of a deepening of the energy transition. Just to be clear. You're not saying that the act of putting a solar solar panel on your roof makes you more likely to be politically active. You're saying that whatever it is the causes people to be politically active also Inclines them to to put solar panels on the roof is that is that right. Yeah I mean the the study that we did right now. Chest tells us that there's a close association between the two behaviors. We're going to do some follow. Follow up work right now to understand if in how the act of adopting solar may be shifting your opinions and your preferences and your attitudes over time and so I. I think that's a really interesting question that our research raises and that sort of the next step mayor Pete. We understand is surging in the in the Iowa. Polls how how would you compare his climate plan to the plans. That other candidates have put forward. It has some important differences in approach approach and to for instance the Sanders or Warren plans. But it also has a few interesting strength that Buddha judge plans really leans into that some of the other plans are more vague about it. So I think there's a few ways to contrast them so unlike the green new you deal Plans that both Sanders and Warren have really promoted that have a strong focus. On linking the problems of inequality inequality with climate reforms mayor. Buddha judge has a climate plan that is very focused on the climate crisis as a standalone issue. You and is not trying to make links between climate reforms and other types of social and economic policy making. I think that there's a lot of things that are really interesting about it. I think it has a reasonably ambitious energy. Target renewable energy target with this interim target for twenty twenty-five it has one of the more developed plans to really think creatively about what technologies we need to invest in to innovate. You know this is a plan that talks about technology. Direct air capture to actually remove carbon from the atmosphere which is quite necessary. This is also a plan that has a fully realized carbon price in it It's a proposed as a carbon price and dividend policy where Americans will receive the revenues from a carbon price back as rebates. But here's my question for you. How in the world at a time? When the Democratic voters are saying more and more more more climate change does Mir p differentiate himself from the rest of the field when his plants are considerably smaller at least dollar wise than the rest of the field? I guess I think that his plan is quite ambitious and a bunch of dimensions. I think that where where it lags behind. Some of the other candidates is it doesn't appear to have as much money for deployment. It doesn't imagine the same degree of wide-scale spending and investment in decarbonisation. And I think that that type of really aggressive spending and really aggressive government investment other candidates have argued is critical if we're going to meet the climate science targets that we need to meet and so I think that as Buddha judge rises in the polls. He's going to need to do more to communicate how his plan is responding to the scale of the climate crisis and really offering bring a solution to the climate problem that that meets the climate science where it is and provide a credible pathway to keep the global climate stable. But I do think that there's lots of interesting components that the plan and it's a serious plan. It's a window dressing plan that we've seen from from some of the other candidates and you know. I thought for a while though that the difference among the candidates on climate change isn't so much the the specific details they put in their plants but the priority that the assigned to the issue. So that you know the question in my mind has been which of these candidates is going to make climate front and center issue if he or she is elected in November twenty twenty. I think it's a really good question. And I think Eh to answer the question we also have to think about who has a realistic and practical plan for how to actually pass the type of legislation and regulations. That are GONNA be necessary. I'm having a great plan. Is One thing and another thing is who actually has the strategy necessary in the tactics necessary to to get something done. I actually put a lot of stock in who is willing to embrace a phase out of the filibuster. I think that that's not who else. Yeah well among the major ones Warren Also Montana Governor Steve Bullock is willing to do it and of the of the major candidates most are hedging or saying they'll explore it it certainly mayor. Buddha judge said that he'd be open up into thinking about it sanders has been surprisingly resistant to the idea for reasons that I don't entirely understand but I think that to pass a major climate reform package in the Senate will almost certainly require removing the filibuster. I don't think they're sixty votes. I think there could be fifty one votes and to me. That is the the first the first thing I look at in terms of. Who's being serious and who might actually get something done? That's really fascinating stuff. Professor really appreciate your coming on and discussing your work with us. My pleasure climate twenty twenty is produced in association with a year's project and his Co created by boomer division of John Marshall Media Funding provided by Excellent Company beneath believes that confronting climate change is essential to maintaining the strength and prosperity of the cities. 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"Hi and welcome to climate twenty twenty podcast about climate change twenty twenty election. I'm David Gelber of the Climate Media Company Years Project and I'm Jeff Nesbitt. I founded climate nexus a climate communications group or guest this week. Our former Republican Congressman Carlos Cabello and political science science professor Matto Mildenberger but First Jeff. It seems that Mayor Pete is surging in the polls in in Iowa. Way certainly surging in the polls in Iowa I think it's still an open question. How do in New Hampshire and South Carolina specially South Carolina because he's still struggling with black voters but in Iowa Yeah? He's the clear front runner at this point. The the the other three are seven eight points behind him. Interestingly Sanders yeah this this week well I think you know. We'll see how long that lasts last. But you know Bernie. Sanders rocked the state with his His climate debates with with ABC and others this past week he got lots and lots of folks out out there on the climate issue. So there's a long time between now and and the Iowa caucus but for right now Mayor Pete seems to be the the alternative up to the the sanders warned. Wing of the Party. You know we're going to ask a professor mildenberger About Buddha judge and how is how is climate plan stacks up against some of the other candidates relates. Do you have a sense of that about about where booty judges climate policy as well my views. It's it's it's tough for some of these candidates even like Buddha jets to distinguish between Bernie Sanders plan which is in the sixteen trillion dollar range and some of the others that are in the multi trillion dollar range. I think the the the candidate who's who's done the best job of differentiating herself from the rest of the Field Elizabeth Warren I. I had a chance to talk to her new climate policy director last week at length about this and she's really taken Jane's was planned and integrated into her campaign in a way that that sets apart from the others. I think Buddha judge is going to struggle to to to describe to people wise. My climate energy plan different than than other folks. I think he'd like to and if he's going to be the moderate alternative He's going to have to figure out a way to address address this issue in a way that satisfies a big chunk of the Democratic Party. I said most. Most voters don't really understand what the differences are between one candidate in another candidate at the stage of the game it's trillion dollars trillion dollars there. So tell me more about what Elizabeth Warren just doing to differentiate herself. She's got to walk a very careful path. which is to look a lot like the green new deal candidate Bernie Sanders clearly as Bernie? Sanders is all in the green new deal. I mean all in he he talks about it constantly nonstop Elizabeth Warren needs to set herself apart from Sanders on the Progressive Wing of the party. On this issue. You but not be the same all in green new deal candidate. How do that well? That's that's what the wrestling with right. Now it's a fascinating dilemma. For so the way she's doing right now is to take individual individual parts of her economic plan and show how they apply to the climate issue so to to basically take an others have done this as well. How Jay if chancellor were on the race he would be he was talking about something that looks just like a green new deal? Ten years ago ten fifteen years ago he called it the Apollo project others were talking about at this. So That's what Elizabeth Warren will take individual pieces of the talk about jobs and economic opportunity and environmental justice and An inequity and take her bent on this race and apply it to the elements of green new deal. That's what she's going to try to pull off. So Hey Jeff I hear that Climate next is your organization and George Mason University City Did a a poll Georgia which had some very surprising results. Tell us about it. So we've been releasing polls in every state prior to the Democratic presidential debates to show just how much interest there is in the climate and energy issue in those states and sure enough in Georgia like two thirds of the voters would love to see more discussion of renewable energy. And I'll tell you there's A. There's another interesting development this week as well Bill Gates has funded a big new venture That came out of stealth mode this week. uses concentrated solar power to heat up a a single point to about a quarter the heat that you'd find on the surface of the sun and the technology uses artificial intelligence in order to concentrate that solar power. If this proves out it is really an interesting trink interesting concept both for concentrated solar power but potentially even the creation of green hydrogen which could be used to power airplanes and other things. So I want to know what is this house. My life can be different if I'm still around in ten fifteen years because out. Yeah I mean a couple of ways first of all You might oh you know the cement and the steel that goes in all sorts of products will be potentially cheaper and and Carbon free. So you'll be saving the environment while you have cheaper goods and services. You might be flying in an airplane that had that's fueled by green hydrogen which which would be carbon free as well and cheaper so your ticket cost less Your car could cost less the billing. Were you living in could cost less and it will help the environment and help solve the climate problems. So you get all of those benefits. Can't wait.
"2020" Discussed on Climate 2020
"So I'm Nathaniel Stannett. I'm the founder and executive director of the environmental voter project checked and I'm in Boston Massachusetts. And what is the environmental voter project. We are a nonpartisan nonprofit that focuses on just one thing. And that's identifying environmentalists who don't vote and then turning them into better voters so we don't try to persuade people to care more about at the environment we don't lobby anybody for climate policy or anything like that. We are in the behavior changing business. Not The mind changing business. Do you remember Knbr exactly where you were in your life when a light bulb went off over your head and and lead you to To create the environmental voter project. Well I had just finished running a May oral campaign in Boston and I was looking over some polling data and something just totally jumped out at me and this was that likely likely voters in the two thousand. Fourteen midterms listed climate change as one of their lowest priorities. But when you looked at all registered voters back in two thousand fourteen climate change was somewhere near the middle of their priorities and that really struck me. It made me start thinking. I wonder if the climate movement doesn't have persuasion problem as much as we have a turnout problem. I wonder if there are millions of people out there who care deeply about these issues and they're just not voting and that was the beginning of this whole process so you were running a mayoral campaign in Boston. How did it go by the way? Oh we lost. We lost it was one of the closest mayoral campaigns in Boston history. Maybe if you had had had more more environmental voters in the going to the polls you might have one It's possible it's possible. I think we probably needed a few things that happen in order for us to win. How many registered voters are there in the US In the two thousand eighteen midterms. There were something like two hundred eight million and and by the time we get to the twenty twenty presidential election will probably be looking at two hundred and fifteen to two hundred. Twenty million registered voters at our are at our last analysis about twenty million of those registered voters lists climate change or some other environmental issue as their number one priority. All righty and you you have a term for those voters you call them Super Enviros. That's right super environmentalists. So these are people who don't just care about climate or the environment. They listed as their top priority overall others so if you look at all registered voters back in two thousand fourteen forty four percent of them turned out to vote in that election but only twenty. One percent of the super environmentalists. Did so that there was a real turnout. Problem in the Environmental Movement back in two thousand fourteen. A huge one does. It doesn't seem odd to you that people who say the environment or climate change is very important to them that those people don't bother to vote them. How can that be eh? Yeah I I mean it is odd but if you think back back back back way back before before. The time of Donald Trump environmental environmental issues weren't automatically seen as being political if people thought about being environmentally active for ways to have an environmental mental impact. They probably would have said. Oh well you need to recycle or oh you need to change what you eat or you need to bike to work rather than drive. Ah Types of ways environmentalists could have an impact on their society. were a political ways whereas if you think of other issues like people who care about gun rights they know that voting is one of the most important things they can do. If you care deeply about gun rights it's it's an inherently political issue and up until recently environmental issues weren't viewed that way. Do you think that the advent of trump has that changed. Things are environmentalists now. Much more focused on on voting solution than they were back in in two thousand fourteen. Absolutely I don't have a single doubt that that's the case and we're not only seeing it in. Our data were environmentalists are starting to vote more often but a lot of academics Dana Fisher who just came out with a book called American resistance has done a lot of work just looking at not only the types of people who are marching but the fact that if you march you are more likely to vote or if you are angry at Donald Trump you've become more likely to vote in their whole bunch of people who were activists it's in a political ways who have now become political activists so yeah Donald Trump has has had an enormous impact. Not just on the environmental movement but on a a lot of movements. Is it possible that just that many more people are being affected directly personally in their own lives by the consequences of climate change. Well there's no doubt that that's actually happening Whether that led to people caring about it more it's possible. Of course it's possible and I think you know that has a knock on effect that makes the media more likely to pay attention to these issues. It makes philanthropist. More likely to pay attention to these issues I think a lot of things were happening. But there's no doubt that more and more people are feeling the impacts of climate change in their daily lives. No doubt so what you're really looking to do is to change the electorate more than to win a specific election. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. We know that politicians go were the votes are and so if we make more environmental voters. It doesn't matter whether we're talking about a local city councillor president of the United States if we make more environmental voters that policymaker will be more likely to lead on environmental issues because nothing nothing motivates a politician more than the prospect of winning or losing an election. You know I thought it was is fascinating that you've told me in the past that you really don't know for sure with scientific certainty why these Super Enviros don't vote. Do you remember what you told me. Well I I I think it was probably something like because whenever we ask them they lie their pants off. They lie they that you can't get an honest answer when you ask someone why they don't vote because they say they did vote. And what's really interesting about this David and I'm glad you brought this up. Is The reason people lie about whether they vote or not is because even non voters still buy into the societal norm. That voting is a good thing they buy Ryan to it so much that if you ask them whether they vote or not they lie their pants off and they swear up and down that they vote all the time you know in the in the in the two thousand eighteen eighteen midterms my organization years project work with with you guys with the environmental voter project to turn out a whole bunch of videos that were designed to appeal to those those Lazy Lisi Environmental Voters and you were very specific in in giving us suggestions about how to write the script for those videos. What are some of the things that you encouraged us is to To focus onto your member. Yeah well one of the most important things and this goes against every rule that any English teacher or writing teacher has ever told us in that is instead of emphasizing the power of a particular action emphasize someone's identity so what what do I mean by that. It means when you're writing script. Don't talk about the importance of voting instead. Talk about being a voter. Try to appeal to people's sense of self and sense of identity and say are you a voter or are you not a voter because if you care about these issues it's important that this also also be an aspect of your personality. Hi I'm Liz Keefer. Yes so we did a video with Kiefer A middle-aged mother of two in Hudson Valley. It's important Horton for me to secure my kid's future that's why this election. I'm voter. You may have missed an election or to. You may have not voted at all. It doesn't matter this year. We can all be voters. Let's you know you've talked a lot about the fact that young people don't vote so we had a video with a young woman named now. Yelich early Kobo in Los Angeles I ten but yet we you can. You can make a difference. Who was too young to vote but not too young to urge other people to vote? I'll send you a reminder right before lunch today because when you vote. Politicians are forced Tillis SORTA thing which which groups of voters by race by class by gender by age are are less likely to vote in proportion to their overall numbers the custodian of the groups that you really focusing on so it's interesting. The environmentalists certainly tend to be younger. They're more likely to be people of Color and they are more or likely to make less than fifty thousand dollars a year. And so that's really important to understand for a few reasons. David one all of those groups are less likely to vote in in general but they're even less likely to vote if they care about the environment and to all three of those groups of people. I just mentioned young. People poor people people in people of color they are usually the object of voter suppression laws. And so it's really important for the climate movement and the Environmental Movement to understand and that any time a state or federal or local official is trying to make it harder for someone to vote. They are hurting the environmental movement. They they are really really hurting the power of the environmental movement and we need to start viewing ballot access and voting rights issues as being really really crucial to the power. or of the climate movement. Yeah so nathaniel. Let's let's talk about social media targeting which is something that really wasn't so much available a decade or two ago. We do that with with you last year and I have to say that the targeting part of it kind of gave me a stomach ache. It's it's it's where election gun kid describe. Exactly how how the social social media targeting works right so it's not just social media I mean the stuff that should give you a t a stomach ache. David is is everything it's all of. The targeting running. Political campaigns.
"2020" Discussed on Climate 2020
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"My name is Ben Lefavor from the energy reporter for politico and cover energy policy in the US and abroad Well Hey man thanks for taking the time to do this last June there was a closed door meeting of a group called the Independent Petroleum Producers of America took place in Colorado Springs Colorado and they made a recording of the meeting these oil executives Ashok every other section is off the record and I presume that that tape was not intended for people like you for people for reporter from politico was it ah tell you the truth I'm not sure exactly who the source of audio was but the meeting even when we called the lawyers who were talking in the audio and asked to verify that it was indeed them they verified it but they declined to discuss anything further saying the meeting was off the record so what did you learn about what these guys these these executives think of the trump administration you know kind of what we've been hearing in this meaning they aired their grievances you know pretty openly wait wait what's their main grievance their main grievances that while they appreciate the kind of cheerleading coming from the administration as far as you know wanting to expand oil and gas drilling as much as humanly possible they're upset that the administration hasn't had in their words the competence or the drive to kind of make this energy policy stick so you have this industry lawyer on tape saying that as far as the industries concerned trump's heart is in the right place but they're just not competent enough to make sure that these recissions rollbacks survive but in early two thousand seventeen there weren't the right people in those organizations to actually exit the recissions and I think it's pretty obvious to me that comes down for two reasons why that happens was the trump administration's political decision to with their so called because of the premium that the trump administration is put on loyalty to the president they're not able to you bring in people with enough expertise to actually pull off these rulemakings in a proper fashion so complaints was that if you do not support trump prior to his win in the election I mean basically good luck getting any sort of position authority in the administration and that has basically shrunk the talent pool so much that people who have had experienced working the levers of government who have the experience and drafting regulations were just not picked fill empty seats you know the public I think that's the impression that that trump has indeed rolled back most of what Obama did but that's actually in terms of what's happening on the Greenwich not exactly true is correct there's been you know they put in Russian rollbacks but most everything is being challenged in court there's a fear that all the environmental groups have to do keep throwing sand in the gears via lawsuits and if things keep being slowdown in the courts if you get a new administration and twenty twenty credit president and administration these administrations will then just stop defending the lawsuits so you know right now the two leading candidates in the democratic side our job is ending Elizabeth Warren you speak to the oil and gas folks all the time how do they feel about warning Biden during the first round and debates I went around and I asked a number of sources who could work on the stage who could you work with and who could you definitely not work with and Biden's name came up invariably a someone we can work with we know the Biden people we track record with by it and we have connections with him because of his time in the Obama Administration and then Warren was basically seen as we can't work with her but it was almost as an afterthought because no one thought that she was going to get close to winning in a smart money now has her as the leading candidate yes and she's she's taken some policy stances she would use the SEC to force a lot of these companies to disclose more about how their businesses affect climate or we are doing to capture carbon emissions because as long if they make this stuff public it could open up to more lawsuits or allow and sisters to decide you know this company is doing as much as they kind of have been preaching they've been doing on climate change so I'm going to start investing my money and company to three or four yeah I mean right now just about all the Democratic candidates to one degree or another are demonizing the oil and gas industry in the coal industry yeah and again there's a feeling of I think it's starting to sink in that you know some of this this public opinion is not changing it's not just one of those or messaging is off of those things you would hear a lot in the past well we just need to get our messaging out there better in public will come come around to our you know our positions on things I think now seeping in that is not our messaging it's our business that the public has a problem with it has trump painted himself into a corner that he can't get out of I mean how does he get out of this dilemma if it is a dilemma for him I don't think he can I mean they I think there are some in the White House who have kind of recognized this climate has become a big enough issue to the point where they tried to do a meeting or an event at the White House they tried to tout their record on the environment and it ended up being touting record on coal production or oil production where I was thinking you are doing the opposite of the intended point of this presentation was so I think that even though maybe some of the White House recognize it as an issue they need to get ahead of just in this administration's DNA it's impossible to do so asking the Cheetah and change its spots.
"2020" Discussed on Climate 2020
"Can we ask you to quickly talk about how you guys I met we're kind of sibling organizations I mean Climate Nexus Jeff's organization does an amazing job making this issue front and center in the American mediaworks with newspaper reporters try and keep them in the know about what's happening on the climate issue my partner Joe Bach and I have been working on the film part of the US through our series years of living dangerously which really did you know I'll tell you three years ago we started shooting this TV show called years of living dangerously and finally for the first time ever an entire series dedicated to telling real stories happening right now no effects you and I have been find to get the media to look at the human stories behind climate change and now we're going to try and see how seriously the presidential candidates are going to take this issue so so David you and I walked out of big institutions at roughly the same time and met each other because we wanted to take this issue on through the media and in ways where that human story is told As broadly as possible you less sixty minutes to start years of living dangerously I left the National Science Foundation to start the organization that I'm running jeff in twenty seventeen which was the most costly year ever in terms of whether catastrophes tonight Maria direct hit devastating Puerto Rico the British isles are bracing for a lashing from hurricane coachee southern California roughly one hundred and sixty found on an analysis of media coverage of climate change by the group media matters turned up the fact that there were among the major four networks ABC Z.. CBS NBC and Fox there were four stories altogether licking human activity to climate change part of the problem network executives face and they will tell you this privately is that the Republican Party has moved so far on the climate issue that they're worried when they air a climate story they'll get substantial feedback from voters who effectively have been brainwashing because what we're seeing occur right al among all the major Democratic presidential candidates as they're on a national stage they're talking to tens of millions of Americans and they're quite frankly struggling with how to talk about the exchanged we need to do everything we can start moving the climate in the right direction but we also need to start moving people to higher ground and the best way to do that that is to put economic resources into your hands you can protect yourself and your family's I was challenged by the artist other than Jay inslee they are really learning for the first time how to talk about the I am an issue but the question in my mind is are these future presidents are they going to make this a priority issue because the way working Washington if you don't make something a top priority it doesn't happen I'd like you guys to break down the debates who were your favorites what did you hear that you liked what didn't you like Elizabeth my my favorite so far my favorite on the debate has been was born on the table to create one two million new jobs in bream manufacturing it'd be twenty three trillion dollars worldwide markets this this reviled allies huge cities across this country and no one wants to talk about what to want to do instead I think she gets the urgency of the big money out of American politics I loved Cory Booker's line and the Lens with review every issue nobody should get applause for rejoining the Paris climate accords that is kindergarten we have too far because it doesn't mean a whole lot.