35 Burst results for "2017"

AP correspondent Walter Ratliff has the Religion Roundup.

AP News Radio

02:09 min | 5 d ago

AP correspondent Walter Ratliff has the Religion Roundup.

"And this week's religion roundup an AP investigation and covers abuse reporting failures in the Mormon church a Christian flag flies over Boston and Iraq's Yazidi community commemorates a tragic decade on stage Three of 6 children who accused their father of sexual abuse are suing the Mormon church for not going to authorities and letting the abuse go on for 7 years It didn't stop The eldest daughter of Paul Douglas Adams says when she reported abuse on a phone helpline it was kept within the church It didn't go away They just let it keep happening AP investigative reporter Michael resendez says the Arizona case follows a pattern found in other states The Associated Press has received nearly 12,000 pages of sealed records from another child sex abuse case in West Virginia which show that the helpline stands at the center of an elaborate system to divert child sex abuse complaints away from law enforcement And instead send them to attorneys for the church who may cover up that abuse leaving children and victims in harm's way Attorneys for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints say church officials feel they were constrained by confidentiality rules To lay at the feet of these bishops the blame for that is absurd and it's wrong Arizona's child sex reporting law says anyone who reasonably believes a child has been abused or neglected has a legal obligation to report the information The Christian flag that became the focus of a free speech legal battle that went all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court has been raised outside Boston city hall The flag raising took place about three months after the Supreme Court ruled unanimously that the city unjustly discriminated when it refused to fly the banner in 2017 Artists from the Yazidi community of Iraq commemorated their tragedy during a stage performance in Iraq's Kurdish region It has been 8 years since the lives of the Yazidis were torn apart by Islamic State militants The United Nations has called the attacks a genocide I'm Walter ratliff

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Rangers win 3-2 over WSox in debuts of 2 former 1st-rounders

AP News Radio

00:32 sec | 6 d ago

Rangers win 3-2 over WSox in debuts of 2 former 1st-rounders

"Mabry's valoria single home the tying run in the 7th inning to push the rangers past the White Sox three to two Texas became the first team since 1986 to have two of its first round picks make their big league debuts as starters in the same game 2016 pick Cole Reagan's allowed one unearned run over 5 innings 2017 first rounder Baba Thompson was one for three with a bunch single Brock Burke picked up the win with two scoreless innings helping the rangers end a 7 game home losing streak Losing pitcher Johnny cueto was reached for three runs at 11 hits over 80 innings I'm Dave ferry

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Judge: Kevin Spacey must pay $30M to 'House of Cards' makers

AP News Radio

00:49 sec | 6 d ago

Judge: Kevin Spacey must pay $30M to 'House of Cards' makers

"A major ruling in connection with a major me too case involving Kevin Spacey A superior court judge in Los Angeles has ruled that Kevin Spacey and his production companies must cough up nearly $31 million this because of losses caused by his being fired from House of Cards in 2017 The judges ruling mean Spacey will have to pay a financial price to go along with a massive hit to his reputation for the alleged sexual harassment of crew members on the popular Netflix drama claims that caused the show to cut him loose a private arbitrator had set the financial award but space he appealed and the judge's decision seals the matter and attorney for the companies that produce House of Cards says they are pleased with the ruling A Moscow's Gabrielle

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Jaelene Daniels Refuses Gay Pride Jersey, Sits out NWSL Game

ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes

01:01 min | Last week

Jaelene Daniels Refuses Gay Pride Jersey, Sits out NWSL Game

"Lean Daniels, by the way. That's the name of the young lady over at the North Carolina courage. That's the soccer team. She was sidelined for Friday's game, she refused to wear a gay pride themed Jersey. Daniels has an open Christian. She made headlines in 2017, she chose to withdraw from the U.S. soccer team. Two weeks after it was announced that both teams men's and women's would be wearing rainbow jerseys in honor of Pride Month. The team says we're disappointed with her choice. We respect her right to make that decision. No, she's not making the decision. They're the ones making the decision. Now my understanding is that the courage they have a mascot, they have uniforms, now if the soccer team wants to change the uniform in the mascot, then why is that the fault of the players? Why should they be penalized? Anyway, it seems to me the only person with courage on that team is jailing Daniels.

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Hedges drives in 2 to break tie, put Guardians over Rays 5-3

AP News Radio

00:33 sec | Last week

Hedges drives in 2 to break tie, put Guardians over Rays 5-3

"Austin hedges supplied the tie breaking hit and Cleveland won a series against the rays for the first time since 2017 taking the rubber game 5 to three Hedges hit a two run double in the 5th inning to help the guardians finish 6 and 5 on their road trip The double came after Cleveland wasted a three zero lead Miles straw hit a two run single and José Ramírez picked up his 84th RBI with a base hit Reliever Kirk McCarthy picked up the win allowing one run over three and a third innings Shane mcclanahan tied a season low with four and a third innings Surrendering 5 runs 7 hits and three walks I'm Dave fairy

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The Decline of America's Military With Captain Henry Hendrix (Ret.)

America First with Sebastian Gorka Podcast

01:40 min | Last week

The Decline of America's Military With Captain Henry Hendrix (Ret.)

"Given that huge breadth of experience in the navy in The Pentagon, reviewing the history of the United States Navy, what is the state of the U.S. Navy today? We're largely broken. The navy is too small for the task that it has been assigned. And we can see this in that the combatant commanders, the regional combat commanders, demand about a 110 ships to be forward deployed in any given moment. And in fact, we only have 298. And so we're talking about per combatant command. No, no. Total worldwide. Reagan's was what Reagan's navy was 600. 600 ships. And at that time, we maintain a 150 ships out at sea at any given moment. Serving, doing naval presence missions, power projection and everything. So right now, that's what we have total. Yeah, we have 298 total in the fleet. Serving at any one time? Yeah. And so that's why we broke in the fleet. So we didn't have enough time given the demands for all the ships to be four deployed to properly maintain them at home or train their crews. And so if you remember back to 2017, when we had three collisions and a grounding result in the deaths of American sailors at sea, it was largely because we weren't being able to do all this at home cycle because we were under demand to be forward and today we've decreased the number of ships that are forward deployed. But what that's done is created power vacuums in places like the South China Sea that other nations have stepped into to fill like China with the building of the artificial islands and so on. So really it's this decline of the navy that's invited this competition that we're seeing at sea right now.

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Dodgers top Rockies 5-4 behind Urías, move to 20-4 in July

AP News Radio

00:32 sec | Last week

Dodgers top Rockies 5-4 behind Urías, move to 20-4 in July

"One of the reasons the Dodgers have the best record in baseball is they're having the big league's best record in July with their 5 four win at Colorado Friday LA is now 20 and four this month Catcher Will Smith knows why Often offenses getting us ahead Starters are going deep into games saving the bullpen a little bit and then the bullpen guys are coming in and putting up zeros Los Angeles has racked up a pair of 7 game win streaks this month They're only July with a higher win percentage was in 2017 when they went 20 and three Bruce Morton Denver

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FBI open to settling claims by gymnasts abused by Nassar

AP News Radio

00:46 sec | Last week

FBI open to settling claims by gymnasts abused by Nassar

"I Mike Gracia reporting the FBI is open to settling claims by gymnasts who were abused by doctor Larry Nassar The FBI's general counsel has reached out to attorneys representing Olympic gold medalist Simone Biles Ali raisman of Michaela maroney and dozens of other women who were sexually assaulted by Larry Nassar to begin settlement talks in the $1 billion claim they brought against the federal government Three people familiar with the matter say the FBI reached out on Wednesday The settlement talks were first reported by The Wall Street Journal The victims brought claims against the FBI for failing to stop nassar when the agency first received allegations against the sports doctor in 2015 Nasser continued his assaults for more than a year and pleaded guilty in 2017 Mike Gracia Washington

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 Rays beat Orioles 6-4 in 10 innings to end 4-game skid

AP News Radio

00:31 sec | 2 weeks ago

Rays beat Orioles 6-4 in 10 innings to end 4-game skid

"The race four game losing streak is over after Randy arose arena hit a two run double in the tenth inning giving Tampa Bay a 6 four victory over the Orioles The rays loaded the bases on an infield hit and a walk before a rose arena delivered against Jorge Lopez The rally occurred after Jorge Mateo sent the game to extra innings with a one out solo shot in the 9th G man Choi and Luke Rayleigh homeward for the rays who totaled just 9 runs during their skid The birds are 14 and 7 this month and missed a chance to move two games over 500 this late in the season for the first time since 2017

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Singer strikes out career-high 12, Royals beat Rays 6-3

AP News Radio

00:35 sec | 2 weeks ago

Singer strikes out career-high 12, Royals beat Rays 6-3

"Michael a Taylor's 8th inning home run broke a three three tie on the way to a 6 three win over the rays snapping a four game losing streak for the royals and manager Mike metheny Nice short swing without trying to do too much He's just so strong Michael has just kind of power that just sneaks up on people every once in a while and then Bobby showing off a little bit too Bobby what junior added to the royals lead with a two run home run later in the 8th Royal starter Brady singer pitch 5 Hitler's innings striking out a career high 12 The wind gives the royals a chance at their first series win over the race since 2017 Ian Ekland Kansas

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MLB struggling to get attendance back to pre-pandemic levels

AP News Radio

00:31 sec | 2 weeks ago

MLB struggling to get attendance back to pre-pandemic levels

"This year's attendance through the all star break has dropped 5.4% from 2019 The last time a season was played without capacity restrictions average attendance stands at 26,409 attendance averaged over 30,000 for 14 straight seasons from 2004 to 2017 9 teams have seen a 15% drop from 2019 with the athletics attendance plunging 55% 18 are on pace to beat their 2019 figures including the Blue Jays at 48 and a half percent I'm Dave

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2 men indicted over deaths of 53 migrants found in back of trailer

AP News Radio

00:46 sec | 3 weeks ago

2 men indicted over deaths of 53 migrants found in back of trailer

"Two Texas men are indicted in the heat related deaths of 53 migrants A federal grand jury indicting truck driver homero zamorano and Christian Martinez on a number of charges in the deaths of 53 migrants and heat related injuries to more than a dozen others found packed inside a hot airless tractor trailer rigged last month on a remote road in San Antonio Convictions could result in life sentences for the pair The U.S. attorney's office could also authorize prosecutors to seek the death penalty The 53 dead were from Mexico in three Central American nations It is the deadliest known smuggling attempt in the United States San Antonio has seen two previous similar incidents ten people dying while trapped in a trailer in 2017

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Charlie Welcomes Blake Masters, Arizona Candidate for US Senate

The Charlie Kirk Show

01:59 min | 3 weeks ago

Charlie Welcomes Blake Masters, Arizona Candidate for US Senate

"I changed my shirt. It is still red, but it says Blake masters for Senate. Now Blake, you're gonna have to tell me this whole kind of design flow. You got for your campaign. I've never seen a campaign like it ever. Yeah, well, you know, we're just trying to be bold and innovative. I guess it's very simple though, so it's like why? Why don't more people just do that? Like obviously the whole point of a campaign shirt is to be a walking billboard. But everybody tries to make it cute and the consultants will tell you if you don't have like a logo silhouette of Arizona with a nice sun setting behind the state. Well, you're gonna lose. And it's like, no, actually just advertise the message. Blake master's percentage. There you go, it's a resting. I'm done for a while Blake, and we at first said, okay, we're not sure what we're gonna do in the Senate race. We were gonna kind of stay out. But honestly, part of the reason we endorsed you and I endorsed you is just the unbelievably unfair attacks against you. I thought just, you know, kind of let the whole process play out, but I just, I can't stand slander and it was just that really motivated me. I don't want to spend too much time on that, but that was actually for me one of the motivating factors, like I gotta do what I can to try to get the word out. So tell our audience about yourself in our show before, you're getting a lot of national headlines and even more so, you're in the polls, Trump endorsed you but tell us about your background and why you're running. Yeah, I mean, I grew up in Arizona, moved to two summer rows four, and I had a great childhood in Arizona. I love this state. I went to California for a few years, which my opponents are beating me up for. But I went to Stanford and Stanford law school. I've interrupt you. Have their voting base had lived in California at some point. Yeah, everybody's from somewhere else. But that's all Arizona. And so I spent a few years in California, Stanford Stanford law school worked in Silicon Valley, linked to Peter Thiel, who I'm sure we'll talk about. But I ran his investment firm investing in startups was involved in the Trump 2016 campaign. But I moved back to Tucson in 2017, 2018, and I was alarmed at what I saw the state had changed. It became much more of a swing state. I still think it's red. It's more than reddish, but we got our work cut out for us,

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Ivana Trump, ex-wife of Donald Trump, dead at 73

AP News Radio

00:37 sec | 3 weeks ago

Ivana Trump, ex-wife of Donald Trump, dead at 73

"Ivana Trump has died She was the first wife of Donald Trump who announced her passing on social media calling her a wonderful beautiful and amazing woman The Trump family says in a statement Ivana was a caring mother a survivor who fled from communism The trumps were a New York City publicity power couple before an equally public and messy divorce after Donald Trump met his next wife Marla Maples still Ivana Trump said in recent years they were on good terms writing in a 2017 book she and her ex-husband talked about once

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A former CIA engineer is convicted in a massive theft of secrets released by WikiLeaks

AP News Radio

00:48 sec | Last month

A former CIA engineer is convicted in a massive theft of secrets released by WikiLeaks

"A former CIA software engineer accused of the biggest theft of classified information in CIA history has been convicted at a retrial I'm Ben Thomas with details Acting as his own defense attorney Joshua schulte claimed to be a scapegoat for an embarrassing public release of CIA secrets by WikiLeaks in 2017 What's come to be called the vault 7 league revealed how the CIA hacked Apple and Android smartphones in overseas spying operations as well as efforts to turn Internet connected televisions into listening devices Schulte had helped create the hacking tools as a coder at CIA headquarters in Langley Virginia prosecutors alleged the 33 year old felt the CIA ignored his complaints about the work environment and tried to burn the ground he had helped the agency create a

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Can Elon Musk Prove Twitter Experienced a "Material Adverse Change"?

The Trish Regan Show

02:34 min | Last month

Can Elon Musk Prove Twitter Experienced a "Material Adverse Change"?

"Back to what Musk is going to allege. What I suspect he's going to allege. He's going to say this is a material adverse effect in terms of the stock price. I don't think that gets him anywhere. I really don't, because I think that, look, you know, the Delaware court's going to say, so what? Like stock prices go up and down every day. You thought it was worth this? That's your problem. But what he might try and allege is that the business itself has been badly damaged because the accounts they're not real. But again, the court comes back and says, well, how is that affected earnings? So the only time the only time in history that the Delaware court has ever said, okay, well, this deal doesn't have to go through because of a material adverse change was back in 2018, 2017. It was a company called acorn pharmaceuticals, and basically the thing just imploded, like days after the merger agreement was signed. And when you look at what happened with the EBITDA, it dropped first by 86%, then its EPS fell by a 105% and a 113% and there was a real concern about the authenticity of some of its filings, which interestingly skadden has a good article on. So these two aren't related, but I just think it's interesting that I'm going to quote for you from a skadden arps piece where they're writing about the acorn situation and how that deal imploded. And they said it was in part because this pharmaceutical company acorn was confronted with serious pervasive data integrity issues, which included submitting falsified product data to the Food and Drug Administration. Again, reading from the scan arps piece, they wrote according to the court acorn subsequently misled the FDA meetings, it sought about data integrity issues. In addition, the court found that acorns business fell off a cliff two days after its stockholders approved the merger, the initial revenue miss was down 25% and of course the 105%, the 113% declines that I just mentioned to you. So the Delaware court said, okay, well, you know what? This isn't the business you thought it was going to be. They didn't represent things. As they should have to the FDA and the business imploded. So this may be the argument here for Elon Musk. He'll say, well, you didn't properly account for your bots and your spam and your business is suffering because just check out the stock price.

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Report: Uber lobbied, used 'stealth' tech to block scrutiny

AP News Radio

00:52 sec | Last month

Report: Uber lobbied, used 'stealth' tech to block scrutiny

"A new report shows Uber lobbied and used stealth tech practices to block scrutiny As Uber aggressively pushed into world markets the ride sharing service lobbied political leaders to relax labor and taxi laws used a kill switch to thwart regulators and law enforcement channeled money through Bermuda and other tax havens and considered portraying violence against its drivers as a way to gain public sympathy That's according to a report from the international consortium of investigative journalists which scoured internal Uber texts emails invoices and other documents looking into the company In a written statement Uber acknowledged mistakes in the past and said the CEO hired in 2017 had been tasked with transforming every aspect of how Uber operates and that 90% of current employees joined after that I'm Julie Walker

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Colonel Douglas Macgregor Reacts to Sen. Graham's 2017 Russia Speech

The Charlie Kirk Show

02:01 min | Last month

Colonel Douglas Macgregor Reacts to Sen. Graham's 2017 Russia Speech

"Colonel, I want to play cut 72. It reinforces something you said where the west was the one that was pushing towards the border of Russia. This is Lindsey Graham and John McCain and Lindsey Graham giving a rather enthusiastic speech saying, we're going to take the fight to Putin. We're going to go straight to the border. We're going to play offense. Play cut 72. Your fight is our fight. 2017 will be the year of offense. All of us will go back to Washington. And we will push the case against Russia. Enough of a Russian aggression. It is time for them to pay a heavier price. I believe you will win. I am convinced you will win and we will do everything we can to provide you with what you need to win. Colonel, your reaction. This was very dangerous, obviously. And they had a receptive audience unfortunately in Ukraine given its tragic history. And I think this actually has its roots in the 1990s in Bosnia Herzegovina and then subsequently in Kosovo and the attacks that we launched against the Serbs, which were aimed ultimately to eject Russia for all intents and purposes from the Balkans and Europe to marginalize Russia. Russia was weak. We were strong and we made no secret of our desire to marginalize them as a power. All of this is connected. And it's unnecessary. I couldn't understand why we even continued to maintain forces in Europe once the wall came down because there was no threat from Russia and frankly today there isn't one when the president of Finland was asked why he wanted to join NATO. He made it very clear that he didn't feel as written by Russia in the least. And I don't think that's the case with anybody right now in Europe to truly understand contemporary Russia.

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"2017" Discussed on Chat Sematary

Chat Sematary

06:31 min | 1 year ago

"2017" Discussed on Chat Sematary

"I get nervous like i get worried about it I my mom. Growing up as a huge stephen king fan and i would ask her. You know when can ivory. And she's like no you. Can't you know and when i was ten. She let me read the girl who loved gordon and it was a rap after that like all king all day. That was it for me. That was one of the first books i read too. I wanna say it was like that and green mile because we have the little the six books green my and i was like oh look at these cute little books. I'm gonna read them. And i probably didn't understand at the time. Half of what happened just increase mile. And then i read it again for this podcast. I was like oh. I missed so much as the child. I don't even know how old i would have been when i read those too and i don't remember the order because my mom had bought the books but she never finished reading them. She had bought through like wizard and glass in the mass market. Paperback size so they were like all nice and uniform shelf and i think she had made it to like pet cemetery or something like that. Maybe the talisman and so basically. Now that i've been reading all of them she's like okay. Which ones will i like. 'cause she's not into fantasy year like saifi kinda stuff. So i'm i'm just like you know listing amount and gerald's game is one that i think you don't need to be a fan of horror to read but everything that happens is very horrific. Yeah no couldn't agree more. It's it's like. I said just misery on top of misery it is straight horror. I think but objectively. Yeah they're not. Nobody's being chased by pennywise at the same time you know. Yeah there's no clowns there's no vampires. There's you know this creepy dude who israel you know and very odd strange. What have you still love a good dog though even if he eats someone you know gerald kind of deserve to hit a little bit. Yeah i'll agree there. You always have to root for the dog. Those are the rules except for cujo. While even you can talk a little bit little bit. Love a good animal appearance but you know that was kind of a running theme through the movie to that. The dog eating the meat outside and it was like. Oh that's like two hundred dollars. Pound is like wow okay fine tell us our. You are exactly weird flags but okay. Yeah yeah and it's exactly what you would expect from a character like gerald so. I love how mike flanagan was able to capture. The essence of these characters. Have the two versions of jesse and the one that's terrified and you know falling asleep because she can't stay awake. She's dehydrated and literally surviving off one cup of water. That's it and you have the fact that gerald kind of comes back to life and you're just like no. We didn't want you here stay down there. Yeah yes so obviously. I think we have come to the point where we have to talk about the hand who this is. The only seen that has disturbed me the entire time. I have been doing this podcast or out of any other horror movies or tv shows. I've watched it was just like oh here comes. Here comes out still getting chills. No it is and like. I said he's so unflinching like if she's having to d. glove her hand you're going to sit here and watch her every step of the way and it is just. I was physically squirming. Like i can't and i'm i'm a big horror person so i'm pretty desensitized but it is just oh man. It's unbelievable the gore effect on it just so so good and it held up. I was a little worried that it wasn't going to when i re watched it i was like oh. Maybe it won't look as good. And i was like nope. That still looks horrifying. No it looks so good. That you're like as carla gino. Okay like anybody's seen her hand since she this. Can we confirm. She still has one but that scene alone. I take make so much of this movie worth it because you understand. In that moment how far she's willing to go to survive exactly and this is a character like her. Her mental version of gerald said. She runs away. She takes off in her mind when things get to real but like no. She's she's here she did this. She's gonna make it out. Obviously no matter. What what i want to know is who buys a bed frame. That is that reinforced gerald. Somebody with them. I think some disturbing ideas. I don't think anybody needs needs a bed frame. That cannot be broken. I understand not wanting to break it but you know like in that situation even if the woodwork looks amazing. You're just like no. We don't want this here like get rid of it. Get rid of the whole thing and the shelf. I was like that's a little high up. Like i guess you're not putting stuff on it that you actually want to reach and the nightstands where like oddly far from the bed just like my nightstand is like reaching distance and i was like she ended up. Reach it with her leg is like i know. I know. you're not the tallest woman in the world but poorly laid out bedroom -absolutely. Yeah the point of the nightstand is to be able to have to reach from the bed. Yeah there was some design flaws here. Which one could argue. That was gerald's entire plan because he clearly likes playing games but you know still strange strange strange man like no thank you you can go yes absolutely. Get the dog back in. Yeah so i know. It's one of those movies. That's a little hard to talk about..

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"2017" Discussed on Chat Sematary

Chat Sematary

09:13 min | 1 year ago

"2017" Discussed on Chat Sematary

"You know. Obviously you have this very tense situation. That is being made worse by you. Know people showing up and not knowing what's going on and not really trying to figure out what's going on which is what leads to her being shot and you just feel like that part is almost. I don't wanna say it shoehorned in because it fits with you know where the plot was heading. I feel like without establishing that about savaging that she was early on it does feel more. Shoehorned benefited just been part of the narrative. Already right is like oh. You're doing this to make a point and it doesn't. I wouldn't have minded if it came organically i just didn't feel that Yeah it felt a little forced in the moment it was like oh now. We're going to bring this up even though we could've brought it up like four hundred pages ago individuals Literally like right before static. Oh okay yes cool. Because i like to pre cast characters in my in my head and i don. I didn't really have mine. Genetic is sort of okay this is. I came to really enjoy this character. Oh she's okay but it felt like if it was important to king if he was doing it to make a point. It didn't feel us louis and his character usually Smitherman that anyone who has read king knows that he definitely brings current events into anything that he's writing. You know the politics that were heavily heavily noticed in the dead zone for instance sort of just the way he's incorporated those things over the years. It's no surprise to me that this was a topic he wanted to touch on. I don't know if this was necessarily the right. I mean this was the right book for it. It just needed to be established earlier in the story. And i will say on the other hand boat he has a he also has a really bad track record of characterizations of black characters of how he chooses to the language of how uses slurs against them in the books in. Sometimes you do. Why did you have to link that. It was unnecessary to have this like when aside he goes overboard sometimes. Mr mercedes books with jerome. I'm thinking of you know lotta times where he just like peppers in the slurs out of nowhere and i'm kind of glad that we didn't get that in this. It's nice to know that you don't always have to go back to that while student gang. Yeah you also have angel. Who i think was a character. We could have seen a little more from because you know a lot of the time that we spend with any of the women in the story. These things are pretty much happening after they've gone hours and days without sleep so we don't really get to see them in a more normal state until the very end of the book. So i think if this would have been book ended with before and after it would have come across a little better and you know i did like some things about this book like. I said. i really did like the premise. I think there were a few things that just didn't click for me. Which is why it took me so long to get into this book and you know like we said character work is kind of what really drives kings stories and i have not read anything else from our either. I think he only has a couple other books. If i'm not mistaken ya think he has like a collection of short. Senator develop something like that. Yeah so this is a big leap from those things very much. So that's why. I think it's i think the the framework seems to be more stephen with simone influences in terms of pla more answer going. Yeah and i was reading up on this too and in an interview with. Cbc's radio show q. He had mentioned that. This idea came from owen. Oh all right. And i don't know how much of it came from. Owen because the quote was something along the lines of approach me with this dynamite idea and i was reading and i was like how much of that idea was fleshed out right right seekers it could have just been simply you know what if women fall asleep and you know get shrouded and cocoons and then they go from there but you know one of the things that i think king has done really well over. The years is taking these very grounded people and tossing them into a supernatural situation. And this is where. I think that works. You know you have this mysterious thing happening. But you don't really know what it is yet and i did go through a lot of this book feeling like okay. The women are in cocoons. So what's next and it felt like it took a very long time to get there but really when they introduce eve. I think it added this interesting element to the story that it really needed over shore. I didn't ask you. Have you seen storm of the century. Yes so that's one of my favorite king has a million problems. But i also feel. There is lot of parallels invest in terms of youth and andrea Okay and they come to town specifically to a small town. Leno says he does it a little because island people can keep a secret and i think it's of the same thing we're seeing this happening dueling because it's a small enough town where you can do these things and she's going to cause something global is going to happen because of what's happening here but people aren't really going to know the specifics. And everyone's disconnect sort of carry on and it's these you people that are going to have to deal with the consequences of what they did and just sort of felt like that where it's it's it's more. I'm doing this to play. Eve is gin have pick dueling. She wanted to and Little tall why not. Because i believe you guys not here now. I know how i can play. This situation is sorta kind of thing. What did you think of eve. Picking clint as sort of the champion of women. I think clint was like for someone who has spent so much. The book with i feel like aggressively underdeveloped like a lot of things. We hear a lot of things about him and that he has been through. But i don't really. I'd never really felt like that ever really showed in his character. I could be you know. This could just be the. I would say he's interesting to do it. Because he is a thinking man and i think because psychiatrists at the point is to have someone who will understand why people do things having to be lay facing downs. People were growing more and more irrational in pushing the boundaries of his own. What am i going to believe in. Am i going to sacrifice logic and reason to believe this insane story that even though it's happening around the world he has those moments where he he doesn't mind believe that she's like no you do know. This isn't just happening here at this the everywhere and so he sort of is you know. Of course he has his own crisis of faith. Nothing specifically he's only there to be thinking person in natural situation. And i was fine with that. It's i. I was never really fearful for him doing the wrong thing or dying or he he. He was sort of justice. He was kind of the obvious choice. I feel like just because of his position his job title. And you know he's forty eight so he is not quite close to retirement by any means but he's seen a lot of things he's talked to a lot of people. He has especially talked to a lot of the women at the prison. By this point in time and one thing i found interesting was the choice to not have a thinking person on the other side of things you know. It was like frank. Gehry was irrational from a gecko on loans right and you know. He's an animal control officer. Which seems ironic. Because he is the one that but to you would think he would be able to sort of in a sense of wrangle people better. And you know you had terry combs who was kind of wishy washy and not really knowing what to do once. Lila fell asleep and he was sort of left as the man charge. And you know it was very clear that this story was trying to be like..

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"Or don peters i i was i was happiest when when he died at the end. King is your characters you know lasting along time so we can get a really good cup and i was lead at least that he got hurt. It's kind of awful when you're rooting for character. Even what is this going to happen. Even in a stephen king novel. Because you know. We're so used to rooting against or i should say i'm so used to rooting against characters. Like penny wise or you know these characters that are not necessarily evil from the start but you know that they're going to be the villains and with this when everything starts you don't really have any real sense of that and you have to kind of just realize along the way okay. We have this character eve black. Who has come in. She has these supernatural abilities. She is technically a woman but also not really in a sense and she is like oh the men are just going to destroy. Everything and i was like okay. I felt as a super clumsy sustainment. It's sort like men are gonna ruin it and then it's up to the women to fix them for a seven hundred page book. Felt a little to come on man like a little. Too pap yielded. Unnerved me a bit before a check Talking and she was just like in the back of lila's cruiser and she was like smack him head on the thing that always like weirds me out when people start committing violence against themselves. when like. oh she's crazy. Oh she's not crazy and misses. You know it's the joker thing trying to get yourself arrested so you can mess with everyone for what she wanted them to do. It took too long to across. Yeah one thing. I wanted to ask you. Specifically was which thing was worse the fact that you had men going around and burning up women in the cocoons or the fact. That eve definitely knew that this giant shootout was going to happen at the end and one didn't do anything about it and to all of the men were just like gal. We're going to go along with this and do it. So i will because eve is technically human. I guess i guess. That's less terrible. Because i'm not ascribing human morality to her when they were saying that the men were going around burning the women. This is because it is you know like to do the whole. Here's how horrible men can meet if you ask quite a job that he has that was rough especially when it's characters that you've technically met and are go through this stinking lobster right berry in akron. Teenage dialogue and characters wasn't really terribly Gotten murdered when he was trying to sell that women. Most us sleeping didn't upset me more while having upset me. But i think in the sense of i expected it from From the men in this book expected that there have been people that they're going to be people to do that. It was just very you. Just hope that they at least got the Since you really did and i would have liked to have known if it. I agree because setting the woman on fire in the cocoons was purposeful. Yes it was an act against them. Active aggression right. They're defenseless. they can't do anything they can't fight back with the shootout. At the person at the end it felt much more like an act of desperation like these men felt like they had no other choice because they wanted answers and clint. Who is the psychiatrist at the prison. He wasn't letting them get those answers. So in a way you know even though that shootout was absolutely terrible and you had people who had known each other for pretty much all of their lives killing each other it felt like there was at least some reasoning behind that yellow. You can understand why they felt justified in doing. Yeah it was. It was foreign to in their minds. Get the women back whereas the burn cocoons was specifically to never was like to make sure they were on us the and he definitely is. That's a another king. Trump israel is driving reasonable people to Irrational behavior right. So another question for you then is who were your favorite characters. In this time a little list. I will say this quite eric and we spent so much time with him. There is sometimes. I didn't mind him. But overall i i really like negative. I can't really enjoyed that old woman. She was very I liked jared better-than-expected to king does not usually routine teacart was very well. I really by. Who's like okay. That's good kid to the head initial Ginette i really lights from the beginning. I did not expect you know wherever story was gonna go. I also i don't know about the moment i apologize. I didn't know that this is a really great thing about. His book is identity that she was supposed to be black and when they made that point at the nfl. If you're gonna make it a point at the end you should have made it a point that they get. Because then i didn't understand what the issue is at the end when it becomes a sort of cops killing on armed people. Argument didn't take away anything from. I really enjoyed her character. From the gecko. I feel like maybe they should have brought that up. Maybe when we find out why she's in jail or even when the whole incident is happening with don peters you know like maybe he had a type and you know something like that just to kind of flesh that out a little more because with the shooting at the end.

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05:49 min | 1 year ago

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"Here a little bit Enough for us to kind of have bev show how powerful bev was as well because bev did not go insane and beth did not die so like that was the whole concept. That the deadlines you once you see them either. Go insane or you die. And that didn't happen at bevin. That i i wish we would have seen like like that. Shows you how powerful bev actually is. And it's it's crazy it's it's it's awesome. I honestly i love this fucking movie. Yeah it seems like every time that i've watched it granted not as many times as you. I just kind of love it even more. And it's easy to kind of gloss over some of the stuff that maybe doesn't stand up especially since i've been watching stuff from like the seventies eighties and nineties prior to this. I'm just like okay. They can do a lot more with movies now. And i'm going to give them a little more leeway because there was definitely some bad. Cgi in the dark tower. Two think overall this movie is does a really fantastic job of telling the stories of these kids and for me. This is a four and a half out of five. I have a few movies. I do want to go back and revisit. Because i feel like i may be was a law harsher on them because of how they looked like when they came out like stand by me not a vibrant movie like this but also have to consider the time period which stole up that movie too. But you know. I'm going to do this crazy thing and go through and like rank everything i have like a spreadsheets with different criteria. Because you know. I just give my letterbox score here so you know. That's kind of just like the overall. And so i'm going to take in to account the letterbox score. How much fun it was and rewatch ability so this obviously is going to score pretty in in all three but there are some that like i enjoyed them. They were fine. But i'm never going to rewatch them. Probably and then there's some things like you know. Maximum overdrive really fun silly stupid watch so silly and definitely has a bit of a rewatch ability factor. Terrible movie yes. One hundred percent. I will love for a friend of mine From the dead meat podcasts chelsea rebecca. She really really wants the rights to that. She really wants the rights. That i'm just like please give it to her because i would love to see maximum overdrive go balls to the wall like i would love to see that yet but in a more modern static but yeah i am going to agree with you. I also gives us a four point. Five out of five and mainly based off of how much fun i have with this movie. And it's it's not perfect. But i don't think any movie truly is perfect to be completely honest. All me being by us i think dr sleep is a five out of five. I'm just gonna but but with this particular movie like i. I do find it to be quite a flawless interpretation of what we can have for pennywise now and i. I loved every aspect of this movie. And i think it's just a great ride and it's a fun party movie as well even though it's long like it's a really cool. Maybe they're on with friends and to just watch with a couple of your buddies and just enjoying some snacks and just enjoying each other's company while watching it chapter one like it's just it's that type of movie and i think that that rules. Yeah and it really feels like you. Don't get that with a lot of horror movies. You obviously have your staples like halloween. Where you'll watch that with friends all the time you know basically like the big franchises are sort of those kinds of movies. And obviously you know. Stephen king is kind of his own franchise. Now it's just the rights are all over the place with everyone into set a so true. Yeah he makes so much money. Yeah i can't even fathom how much money he has. i mean. granted it's not like jeff visas money but a writer. I imagine he's one of the richest. Yeah that's that's i i can. I can only assume him. In giancana lear probably the richest writers. Maybe tom clancy. Maybe tom clancy. 'cause tom clancy does have like the video games and movies and shows too so. Maybe tom clancy yeah. Whiteman yes the words right out of my mouth. What other for say good for that now. Good for that. I think that wraps up reds thank you so much for joining me to talk about it. It's been a blast. And you know. I know the spreadsheet is full but i i have plans after you know. All of that stuff is done so hopefully we will see you back on the show. I would be more than happy to come back. This was an absolute blast. Honestly not even saying this has been one of my favorite appearances on any show love to hear it. Thank you again absolutely. Thank you so much for having me all right. That does it for this episode of chat cemetery. You can support the podcast on patriot on for a dollar a month. You'll get a thank you on the show for two dollars a month. 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08:38 min | 1 year ago

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"That's a lot of whites of but it's cool though to have myself on this on your show so thank you so much for inviting me on. I honestly was honored that you even wanted to me to be on this so very stoked about that. Thank you yeah no. I was thrilled that you wanted to discuss this one. And i was doing my best with the spreadsheet. I was like okay hope. I don't make anyone mad. We're just gonna you nailed that spreadsheet. It's perfect flawless spreadsheet. I i saw three on there where i was just like okay. I will love to do that. We'll have to do that. We'll love to do that. And then i saw was just like oh okay like a few folks already have them where i think. I saw the outsider. Someone had that one and the institute and i was like. Oh well you the institute as soon as you told me about it. I love you institute. No one talks about it. Like lemme love lots institute. Then i saw the like all day. Yeah what i tried to do was like every new person who wanted to do an episode. I was like okay. I'll give you one to start and then you know this way. I made sure everyone was covered. And you know so far that has worked out everyone who signed up. Got one but you know it. Chapter one was one that i was really excited for because i feel like this was somewhat of a turning point. Four king adaptations. Because you have this. You have gerald's game you have some really good stuff coming. Twenty seventeen was a wild year. Because you have so insane. So many things you have the dark tower which. I don't know how that came out the same year. As this to be honest you name and then you know. There's the doctor sleep movie coming. Soon for the podcast. It's already out obviously coming up. Soon for the podcast. And it's just you know. This is definitely one of my favorites of the recent stuff and in general really because it just captured everything. I was hoping it would capture of the losers club with the exception. We mentioned with mike being underused earlier. But it still captured. Mike's essence as a kid to absolutely. I agree like it definitely captured. How lonely he felt. And like i love how accepting the losers club was to him. And i like the fact that he felt like he had an n. And the interesting thing behind. Mike like they still allowed him to kinda beat the historian in some ways. Where like he talked about like he knew about pretty much pennywise in general before they all knew about him and when he started talking about pennywise he used the terminology. Or the analogy of Cicadas and how they they kind of sprout up every so often and i was like that is so genius at like he kind of had this interaction of knowing what this being was in from the stories that his grandfather has told him. And things like that. And that's so cool that he is kind of still the historian but at the same time. Like but i want you to lean harder life. Want him to be the full historian. But it's it's still completely find. Because i i love the fact that he is still utilized. He he's not completely underutilized in some ways he's still utilize over utilized but at the same time he is still used and he's important and i'd like the fact that he is still important at while you know we mention the pennywise is the turtles and you know. I thought they did some fun. Little things with those and you know a couple other things here and there but prince. Is there anything else you want to discuss before we dive into ratings. And wrap up here. Yeah one. I guess. One last thing that i find super cool but at the same time a little late but the usage of georgie being the puppeteer. I love that whole aspect of georgie. Being the main focus of why bill is forcing all of his friends to do this. Because none of them want to do this. But with the usage of georgie. And when we kinda get our first turtle reference with the lego set and how he drops it on the ground and when he goes into the basement it's flooded. I love the use of georgie. There and i don't know if you remember the trailer to chapter one. But they show that moment in the trailer. But it's all georgie. In pennywise there. He's on he's in the water and he's kinda mouthing it as well but with the changing of his voice inside of the actual film. I was so bummed that they did that. Because georgie was so more effective with not having his voice altered in my opinion like it felt like like. Oh shit this is your brother talking to you like this like this is not of being talking to you. This is your brother. And i love that. I love the aspect of that. But i still say the bringing georgie up and smack him down to the water. Just so a pennywise can chase him. That was absolute just fantastic. Free and i was like that's great. Definitely love that and they kind of revisit that again in the sewers where you know we had georgie. And you know he's missing the arm and talking to bill and you can really see bill trying to fight it because he's been through this before already. You know it came full circle with that and you know that whole scene to obviously we should probably at least give it a mention just because you know. It's a pretty big deal. But just the fact that bill goes through that again and this time all of his friends are there with him watching him go through it. I think that was the moment they all needed to. Just be like you know what were down here. This is it. This is what we have to do and you know that was sort of them just deciding to all in that moment go all out do everything they can they were like we need to kill this clown and the way they start talking to penny wise. I was like yes okay. This is fantastic and you know. We talked about some of the earlier. That didn't necessarily work for us and we'll just say at least none of it was like tim. Curry's pennywise going down the drain. that's true. The spider twenty seven years prior. You know we can forgive them for that too but you know i think the way. They had pennywise sort of shrinking down that well in this. You know. it wasn't exactly like that. Tim curry going down the drain scene. But it just kind of had that same feeling to it yes outset. This was a triumphant feeling. Not oh no. Where's he going feeling right. That's true yes. And i completely agree like this. Felt like they were close to winning. And i even do want to mention the dead lights as well where a lot of people who either are fans of the novel or read the novel or just one. Just watch the movie to watch the movie. I know that was a big thing that was brought up. Like what are those orbs pretty much and i love that. We see the lights every single time. He changes his is to amber. Those are the dead lights like i. I love that. I love the fact that we get the dead lights very often and i wish well. I don't wish because. I feel like if they would lean too hard on what the debt lights are. The now were stepping into the dark tower territory. Then we're going to have to get the crimson king in this soon and who knows how many movies we're going to have with the with all that but we need to get a new gunslinger. Something needs to happen because interest alba was perfect for that role is just was poorly written. Yeah yeah i just did that. Episode did you. Oh it was something that was something. That is definitely something that i guess. Perturbed me but when you get something like where. You have the deadlines that are kind of i guess.

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"Super naturally real and you get the moment where penny wise one of my favorite moments of pennywise actually appearing when mike is about to go inside of the Butcher shop and right before he gets hit pretty much pennywise does the whole thing with his parents and the burning building so on and so forth but when that door opens and you hear the bleeding lamb pretty much and i'm just like oh my god when he turns around you get the the symphony of those creepy kids and then he opens his eyes. And i'm just like oh my god. I melt every time. Because i haven't had something that has creeped up my spine like that in a very long time and i thinks still like nothing's ha has come close to that for me and it's just something about that scene and it's it's so simple. He's just waving. He's not doing anything but it's something about it. That's so effective to me about that particular scene. And i think when it comes to that aspect of horror you you get this very guttural feeling that you you want to kind of release like whether it be a scream whether it'd be like a gasp or whether it be nothing whether you just be like it'd just sheer terror like you. You just need something to release that information. It's like lease tingles vice spine. Where i'm just like that is so creepy and this movie has two of those moments for me where you have the library scene and just another person in the library staring at ben as he watches the as he looks at the book for the history of old town dairy and i love the fact that she's not even focused on like if i pick up on that this time too. I was like that woman is staring at it and she's smiling and it's great. Yeah and like i. I love that moment. Because when you when i first saw that moment i saw an in theaters very i watch and i lost it in. I'm looking at everyone else around the theaters around me. Why is nobody's losing their mind at this person right now and like i even asked for people was like. Hey library seen. Did you notice the woman staring at them like the librarian. I'm like no. It was just a random woman. And they're like no. And i was like okay. That's why don't freaked out. Because i thought like that moment always gets me and i love it. It's much because the genius behind. That scene is like something. Creepy is already happening in the foreground. Like we see that he's looking at this book. We have the chorus of the children coming in. And we're getting to the point with the severed head and things like that and that's all great. It candy for us to be creeped out. But just in case if that's not enough and the people who are just looking around just like i really want to inspect this whole scene. There's something for you in the background to. And that is just genius to me. And i just i got. I just absolute. Aw like muttering my words right now. How amazing that scene is. And i see this movie so many times and yet it still gets me. That's one you know. Something is really good. Though i feel like there are certain. Stephen king adaptations that you can just watch over and over again and still find something new when you watch it and absolutely. That is what this movie is for me. This is probably. It's not the one. I watched the most because i think i somehow have also seen secret window three times. I don't know how that one happened but it did. And you know it's one of those movies where you have everything coming together. You know you see things kind of fall apart a little more it chapter to not only for the characters but just because of the gap between them and the kids growth spurts that i don't understand it you can definitely tell andres machete didn't have much time with each chapter to to really flush out the probably the way that you wanted to. I will say re watching chapter one. There was only one scene. That didn't hold up quite as well for me. As far as the effects go and that is when they're in the garage watching the projectors and anyways comes out of the wall. I was like that looks a little funky. Now yeah i thought that was actually pretty funky back in two thousand seventeen and i thought was like oh man. This movie has a lot of. Cg in even i think of another scene for me that takes me out of it is when they're actually in the sewer and when pennywise actually it's not them. It's just beth. When she's in the sewer pennywise is dancing On the stage and like when you do a little dance. I'm just like why does it look so odd like i really love to. I was like oh it's green screen like Like like you could just tell like when when something felt off and like granite. You can chop up the fact that it's pennywise is very cartoony and then that can go with like maybe helping your suspension of disbelief. Sure but it didn't help mind like it. Definitely took me out of it and i remember when i first watched it. I did not like this movie. I was like as just complete bashful hater of it. Like i don't like this movie. It wasn't until a second time. I wash it when someone else wants to watch it with me and i was like okay i understand. I love those movies. Like i get it. I get it. But like previously. When i i watched it i was. I was a fan i was. I was so upset. Because i was such a purist of nineteen ninety miniseries and i was so upset that like they hadn't even filmed in one thousand. Nine hundred. eighty eight knows. I was i was bitter. I was just like a bitter old man about it. But i'm glad that like i came to terms but my favorite stephen king adaption is dr sleep. And it's just. I actually was hoping. What had it on your list would you would you. I have four so unhappy. And i was like oh hard i feel like this movie and that movie were like the two that everyone wanted and i was like. Oh no what have i done. I completely understand that. Because dr was definitely one that i was i was searching for on your list. I was like okay. Okay okay okay. But it's funny because even the losers club podcast they also want to be. I wa- dr sleep and you guys aren't even like close until twenty twenty three. I think so. It's like kinda of crazy. Yeah they're they're doing everything just like yourself actually but like i think they take breaks to like cover the new stuff like they go episode by episode. And they're doing like that castlerock season three thing right now and i knew about that podcast when i started this one of the first things i saw was that they had like a four hour episode on it and i was like oh. I'm not gonna do that. So i don't have to feel bad about also doing this idea. Do not do not feel that about it. Not at all but yes they definitely did But i told mike and i was like. I don't know if i can do this. Show of it's going to be that long..

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"It's it's definitely one of those things where people at least king fans think of it more. Like stand by me absolutely number with you. I picture this more stand by me with supernatural elements honestly. That's how the books while the book does like snapped me right. Sewers poking sticks asking other kids. Do you wanna see a dead body of but it is so interesting to kind of. Have this pictured as stand by me. And i would say like this is a mixture between stand by me goonies and in some ways lost boys like it it just it it picture so well in it for me personally like that is the perfection of how. It was able to use the eighties. And i'm right there with you like all the stuff of mike in mike is technically the token black guy trope. I still very much appreciate what this movie did. Especially for horror. Because i mean it's one of the top hor films of all time. I think it's actually the top horror film of all time. Still seven hundred and five million dollars box office which is insane like we don't see that for horror and for that alone like i'm just mad props i i definitely a huge fan of them being able to keep that and i wish they would have been able to keep more of that momentum for chapter two because of my opinion they should have just filmed chapter one and two together but coming again it contracts and such. Let's see how this movie does but yeah yeah because there was clearly more to the stories you know think they could have left it there and it would have been okay because the movie works by itself. You don't need chapter to in order to understand chapter one. You definitely need chapter one in order to understand chapter two. Don't own definitely right there with you. Should i did have for you with the aspect of chapter to having the relationship between eddie. And richie did that. Come across as a relationship inside of chopper one to you. Not really and i think part of that at least has to do with how young these characters are that anything. They're feeling just seems like intense friendship a lot of time. Unless obviously you know you have your band. Bevan bill triangle going on there and she's kind of trying to figure out which of the boys like left her this little note and she thinks it's bill so you know the fact that thought it was bill kind of hinted that a little more than hinting at her and ben necessarily and i think because that was sort of the quote unquote relationship that a lot of people focused on just because they made it so obvious even on a couple of rewatch is of this now. I wasn't really picking up on the. Eddie richie thing other than them being good friends and i'm right there with you and i love the fact that eddie and richie were supposed to be like this That does honestly seem like a really cool touch. I feel like the chapter two because from a couple of my friends in the queer community they all. They all felt that was shoehorned in just because and because i think it was just hinted inside of the novel but it wasn't really like we'll lean dawn but i can't. I can't even really truly remember that to be completely honest with you. But i was even this time watching it. I was even Trying to actually look at the bridge scene. With henry and ben and i was trying to see if i find their initials or something like that because he carves it technically inside of chapter two and i was like i was trying to find. I couldn't find it at all so i was just. I don't i don't know if it was like a last minute decision. Or what but. I don't know i was trying. I was trying to figure that one out. I was definitely trying to figure that one out for sure. I couldn't really pick up on it. Because i did remember that from chapter two and i was like you know. I'm not really seeing this. Because they're so focused on beverly. And you know benadryl and i just wasn't really getting any of those vibes from any of its jerking around like kids do so i didn't pick up on anything other than that. Release you know i. I am glad you asked that though. Because i think it's something that was very hit or miss with a lot of people probably more miss than hit over but like you said there was some weird scheduling stuff. That was done and some interesting choices made in between the movies. Obviously but with it chapter one they just really captured that coming of age essence and absolutely they nailed that they nailed the tone of the movie. The settings the settings are so good so good so good every aspect of the way that there's a movie is honestly set up is perfect. And i and i think that's why i have such a connection with it. Because is it my favorite stephen king louis. No definitely not but it is so fun to watch and it's so it's actually a funny movie to like it's really funny and it is genuinely like pretty creepy in moments and like i'm a sucker for glowing is that's like ma. Think of as i'm going is anywhere. I'm all in and we open with technically glowing marbles but still that counts for me but like would i see something like that i really just have such a fascination with it because i just like for me. It's i. I want to have this suspension of disbelief and when you add glowing eyes into the equation usually suspension of disbelief. Just flies out of the window and for this like this felt.

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"Blue. But we just assume. That's just pity wise is when they're not yellow or amber so. It's very interesting to see that. And i i love that little odd to the fans of the book where it's just like. Oh holy shit. That is totally like a fun nod to the book. And i think that's a very clever way of interacting the book in weaving it into the story For like us fans of the book. And it's just like oh closet fan over here like i'm very very out of the closet when it comes to the stephen king for but when you see that in the story it just feels impactful for a fan of the source material. But i would love for everyone to be able to enjoy that so they could see that. Georgie was comfortable with pennywise because of his eye color. But i'm probably jumping on slightly ahead here to to some of the easter eggs and such but apologies. No no you're good. Because i think these things are just so intertwined with the movie that you know you have all of the turtles that pop up and you know just all of these nods to the book that don't necessarily need to be explained because you know it's not the focus of the story that you know this all connects to the dark tower as many stephen king things do and you know to to go back to the date thing real quick because you know i mentioned how like the fifties and eighties despite being a few decades apart. Don't really feel that different especially in the book and in maine and small town. Usa so for you. Did it even make a difference that took place in eighty eight instead of fifty eight. It didn't it didn't make too much of a difference for me personally. When i saw that the date was going to be in the eighties. I was like okay. That's interesting that they're choosing that route. And i actually personally thought they were going to go backwards where we start with adults i And kind of be more of the source material And then when i saw the kids oh okay like i feel like. That's that's super interesting in granite in the fifties. I mean with racism way more prevalent and that very heavily on pictured in the book as well with that particular depiction. I thought that was really interesting to see how the eighties transition that to being a little bit more soft as the wrong word. But i don't know the right word to choose but a little softer a little a little bit a little bit more tamed as harsh exactly like where we get perfect example is would we get henry bowers going up to Guess it doesn't really go up to. They're driving and they're almost about to hit mike in the alleyway. Yeah and i feel like with something like that particular scene like he just blatantly says. Stay out of my town and like in. The book is way more vicious to mike. And mike is treated terribly in the book and with that like one being a product of the time and two i think i think any mucci probably didn't wanna touch that aspect too much of the racism that was depicted in there in. I mean granted. Two thousand seventeen was a very intense year for horror. Like we got get out. We got at chapter one and so on and so forth so all. I probably wouldn't look great andy. Rashidi would've added so much racism into it But mike was treated like shit. Like that's that is a part of that. And i wish i wish he would lead a little harder into that in chapter two. Because mike stayed in. Mike was treated like a frigate third class citizen when he stayed in like but it would have been cool of him like crashing the detectives of scenes and things like that so it would have been quotas but major spoilers for the book everyone. But it's so interesting to kind of see. All of that transitioned into the eighties. To be a little bit more tamed. Not as harsh as you as you put it for sure But don't get me wrong. They're still assholes like ours and his gang are absolute assholes and their complete trash but It's just. I think the eighties was a good choice to be able to escape from some of the things that were a little bit harder to talk about. Yeah i also wanted to ask you about mike in particular. Because i feel like. He's the most underused of the losers club agree. If i'm remembering correctly it took almost half of the movie for him to even become part of the losers club and because of all the points you made it felt like without leaning into that more. They just in have enough for mike to do which is a little disappointing. Because you know he ends up becoming a librarian but in this. It's ben who is deeply interested in being at the library and learning everything he can about dairy. And i almost feel like maybe they could have given that stuff to mike even if it doesn't line up with the book but just because of where he ends up and we know he stays and all of this stuff it would make a little more sympathetic since he was the one interested in it. Because you know as someone who move to a new place in two thousand nineteen. I did not immediately go to the library and start looking everything up about colorado that i could find fair enough as of why would you. I completely would hundred percent agree. I've always said that. Been in. mike's role should have been flopped in not so much as mike being the new kid in town but mike being the kid who goes to the library on his off time because when he's home schooled so him being home schooled. It makes a lot more sense for him to go to the library. And on top of that being home schooled he also pretty much has this life where his parents pretty much died in front of him so learning learning a little bit more history of behind maybe possibly finding out his family tree a little bit more and things like that like it just made more sense for mike to be in the shoes of ben when it comes to him learning the history of dairy and initially being the person figures out how to save dairy so he was definitely in the shadows. Quite a bit. And it's a bummer. 'cause i even checked on google. He's not on the first search like you have to click view all in order to even see him pop up for the losers club and i was like that sucks like everyone else's here it cookeville scars guard it yet. Mike is like in the the in there so it it bums me out to see how under he was in chapter one. I feel like they try to make up for that in chapter two. But i think it just came off as he was the crazy guy in chapter two and that that was also a bummer. Where i was like oh no like he becomes the liberian he even in chapter two was a nod to him being the librarian because they go to the library but like with all of that like just makes me. It makes me sad that like he got used this way and this is how his script was changed to fit a more less racial mode. But it's is interesting. Because like i i i feel like mike was such a powerful character and he was supposed to be. He was technically the hero. But hey you know. He's the one who figured out the rights and Kind of the leans of motrin and things like that. So i think that's definitely my biggest critique of this movie is how mike was handled because especially for twenty seventeen. It was kind of disappointing for to turn out that way for his character. Because it's not that we don't see him in the first half of the movie it pretty much opens with him. Right kinda dips out disappears okay. He's back again now. He's part of the club and you know despite bat. I still really really love this movie and you know. I don't think anyone. I know compared it to like being like stranger things in my mind..

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08:33 min | 1 year ago

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"You're weird but with that in mind in that particular concept of how bill skarsgard took on this role and how he actually went to the audition end just complete clown garb and how he would kinda get in the mindset of pennywise. He would laugh at other. People are in different cars just so he can like seem maniacal and seem crazy and so he can get the laugh down and i was like what that like. You're you're blowing my mind right now on how you became pennywise and it's just love. It love it you can tell that. He really embodied the role because when we see him again in castlerock he's playing a very different character and a very different way and i always love it when people return to king as far as you know cast and crew go because you just get to see so many different characters and how they take on these roles you know you had julianne moore recently in lacey story and she was previously in the twenty thirteen kerry. There's four kerry movies. And i don't know why but this was movies but yes you're correct. She was she was margaret white. Yeah and those are two very very different performances as well. I think i prefer her and lisi story which you for future office owed but kathy bates just takes it to a next level as annie wilkes but she still great as dolores claiborne to yes. It's it honestly. I never truly even thought about that until you said something right now. Dna like it seriously. The way that they take these roles in the way that they actually are able to cut a separate themselves from their previous role blows my mind and i i love that i love the fact that they have this kind of return to king and the way that they are a testament to how kings work is presented on screen. It's just it's so fascinating to see. All of that. Work just trickled down in being moved onto certain areas. And things like that. And i i mean i'm always down for. King adoptions like i i love king adaptions no matter what it is. I'm supporting it and even dark tower like i. I'm still support the like but with all of these characters in chapter one i will love to see them. Come back i would love to see. Feel a little comeback in if they ever do a cujo remake of some kind. I know she's obviously She's young. But i feel like if we were to do some type of reimagining of cujo. I feel like she would be so good for something like that. Yeah like i could totally see her doing that or jane. Levy i mean but that's just me being completely by on wanting jay levy completely back into horror but besides the void but i would just love to see most of these characters come back i would love to see. Fan comeback c. J. martell comeback. I would love see chosen and more things as well. Because i honestly can't place my finger on too many things that he's in but i would love to see him. Come back into an to a bunch of stuff as well. Yeah i expect. We will see mattie stephen king remakes down the line because we're already getting a bunch you know you had mentioned the twenty nineteen pet cemetery and you know we're getting a pet cemetery prequel and then you know we're getting something like chapel wave home you know. That's that's on now ish. I believe you know. There's just so much king in the works right now to and stuff. We don't even know anything about really other than like someone's name is attached to it and that's yeah like salems lot for perfect example like we're getting a new salem lot from james wan studio and i'm like losing my mind because of it just like this is going to be bloody. I can't wait like really want another sales lot. Because barlow's one of my favorite characters and king lor altogether. And i love barlow so much and the two thousand four remake left something to be desired. Let's just what is your you know if you're familiar with king. You're probably already familiar going into this movie with the story and you know a lot of people pointed out. Hey the miniseries came out in nineteen ninety. This came out in two thousand seventeen twenty-seven seven years. Roughly you know. And i don't think that was entirely on purpose but i love. That had happened anyway because the story is that returns every twenty seven years and the book has it in the fifties and the eighties. And you know some people are like. Oh i wish they would have done the back and forth thing. The book does and you know introduce the adult sooner. But i think because of the essence of these characters and you know the losers club just has this vibe. That makes you want to spend time with them. It's no different than you know. We've mentioned stranger things here because that takes place in the eighties which slightly different vibe than the late fifties but you know roughly still the same in small town. America one hundred percent and i don't think the process of how the book plays where it's pretty much played in flashbacks and with the book playing like that or i shouldn't even say playing like reading that I don't feel like that would have worked as well on screen. And i like the fact that we kinda go this route and it gets a little muddy. But you'll probably talk about that at a later time. I'm sure probably after this but with it chapter one like it has such a tight knit and it really makes fallen absolute love with these kids and like you just you care for them and you want to Nourish them and be there for them. And that i think that is what makes chapter one so special on the way that these children are treated and like how you said like a lot of them come from broken homes. Even if they don't know they're coming from a particular broken home. And i think the only home we don't get any reference to is richie dozer and i think that that's the only prison like we don't see any aspect of their home life at all. If i'm not mistaken in chapter one does that sound correct to you. Yeah because like why you have. The church seen right band. We do go to his house but we don't really see any family. It's like the new kids on the block poster but he kind of mentions it like he's the new kid in town so he doesn't know anyone so he has that whole thing going on and we don't need to necessarily know anything about his family and you have at his mom being also strange not strange about released ad. But you know so. It seems like really before. Georgia's death bill kind of came from the most put together home. Almost that's what it seemed like but that quickly quickly falls apart for good reason to be fair. Yes yes absolutely very true. I wish they would have talked about the moms grieving process a little bit more because her grieving process and the book was just so heartbreaking. How like how. She stooped so low into a depression that she close yourself off their whole family and things like that and that was like hinted in this where it's just like don't let your mom see this When mr barrow was talking to a bill. And i wish we would have just known more because that opening sequence of penny wise with georgie would have had so much more impact if we would've known because because we do get those hints in the book of where it's well not even hint so it gets very blatant in the book of pennywise changing his eyes to blue to fit Giorgis moms i color versus in the actual film.

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04:51 min | 1 year ago

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"It's funny because he's you know in lock and key wanda vision and you know the prodigy. Obviously it's kinda worth comes in. I have a true that just yet. But i remember seeing the trailer and i was like no surge or g. You can't do that. i tried getting through. That one wasn't the biggest fan. But i i love this kid. I really wanna see him do a lot more stuff. Because i feel like he's just really really good. But even jeremy. Ray taylor like jeremy taylor went on to do the reboot of argue over to the dark and that was so cool to see him in that and he was the horror movie. Buff and nerd. I guess in a way where he would literally name drop in the most well obviously for us in the horse genre not really deep cuts but like deep cuts for everyone else where he was like. Have you seen the changeling. And it's just like wait. What did you just really shut out. The changeling in children's and nickelodeon show like all my god. They're school was literally named herbert west to middle school from reanimator. And i lost my mind and i just thought he was perfect for that role. Jacob taylor is another one where i want to see him in more stuff as well just i. I love these kids so much. Yeah running through what they've been into also reminding me of all the things i still need to watch like. Are you afraid of guys. You have to see it you have. it's three episodes. I think okay total so like it's a pretty easy watch an hour each in the guy who played in that movie blind spotting. I'm planning on his name. But he's the villain. And i was like okay. I could dig this. It's so much fun. That's good to know that it's only three episodes. I thought it was like a full season thing. And i'm like okay now. Now that you've told me that i can. I can go watch it. Yeah kind of like a three hour movie. Yeah so yeah it's nice. It's an easy watch. Yeah and the adults are almost nonexistent in this. I mean you have five released add. Who is something else yes. I don't have a better way to put edge. Yeah i mean. They definitely didn't go as far as they could have for sure because the novel definitely turns that up to fifteen and it's like oh my god i hate reading her section so much it. Just it breaks my heart. Yeah there are certain things in the novel that just don't need to be adapted one hundred percent and was surprising that it was adopted in one thousand nine hundred for. Yeah yeah so. You know mr marsh officer bowers. Not good dads note. There are no good dads in this. I mean good. Dads to be fair. Mr denver of you know he's grieving he's grieving. So you kinda give him a pass and he's just like you know. What enough can we move on and your kids. They don't listen so very true. Very true but bill skarsgard puts on an amazing performance as penny wise. It's it's one of my favorite things. I think i've seen in most of the stephen king adaptations to be honest. I mean i'm going to have to agree. I love you know jack. Torrance in the shining. Played by jagger's wilson as many people do terrible adaptation based on the source. You know but. I think a lot of king adaptations are really good at bringing out these iconic performances in this actors and actresses. You know kathy bates is. Annie wilkes i mean. Oh my god yes. Do kathy bates performances. Any wilkes is absolutely god tier. But i'm with you when it comes to bill skarsgard as pennywise. Yeah because he has this persona that feels unnatural and it makes it. It makes it feel very articulate. I feel like like you like you can tell that like okay. He genuinely practiced all of this and wrong. I love tim curry as pennywise. Tim curry his performance. Felt like tim curry. You felt like something you would get from tim curry but bill skarsgard just had such a different interaction in different. Take that. I feel like was warranted for him to play. Pennywise like with the shifting of the is in. i don't mean the colors. I mean literally is is just shifting apart and how that was actually something he can literally do it. Just like you're weird..

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08:59 min | 1 year ago

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"Hey everyone chats metairie back. I'm your host. Diana chapman and today i am joined by prince jackson and we are talking about the 2017. Movie it this is. I have been waiting for for quite some time. But before we dive in prince. Would you like to introduce yourself. Yes absolutely. I thank you so much for having me on. I've been looking so forward to this. Whole bunch of things have happened. Has push things back. But we are here now on superstars but i am prince. I'm the host of nightline or maybe podcasts in the owner of good night life with all that being said. I'm a podcast from the line of bloody discussing podcast network as well. Yeah that's pretty much. be nice. Love bloody disgusting. So i always recommend people check them out for writing. Podcasts everything so there will be links to all of those things in the show notes for everyone but first before we dive into the cast. How many times have you watched it. Oh my god oh so when. It first came out into seventeen i believed. I watched it in theaters. Maybe six or seven times. Wow and after that. I immediately preordered it and it's just like okay. I need those maybe my like. I'm still waiting for this burqa. The machines are taking their sweet time with that super. Cut still waiting for it. But with all of that i think probably close to maybe around thirty or forty. I've seen this movie a lot of times. More than i i for me. It's been really hard to justify rewatching things. When i've been watching so many things for this podcast and i host another weekly podcast called. Welcome to geek them for anyone. Who doesn't know. That's about all the other nerd. Things that are not stephen king. So you know been watching. The new marvel movies d. stuff. Some of those have been as well. I think this was the third time i had seen this. And i never really went to the movies a ton as a kid so that was more of a thing i started doing when like movie pass came out and now. Amc a list. So i don't even remember watching this in theaters. But i feel like i must have because i saw it. Chapter two in theaters ivory watched it on digital before going to see chapter. Two's i was like okay. I definitely saw before this because this is a really watch. I'm pretty sure it was in theaters. But i have no recollection of it. So then i watched it a third time for this podcast and it is one that is just so easy to rewatch. It's like you just have this on in the background. All the time which might seem creepy for some people but probably not anyone listening to this podcast. So that's fine. it's funny. You say that. Because i actually needed to come into studio earlier today and i just threw it on. I was like all right. You know. I'm gonna have this plan in the background while because i needed to actually nail up more acoustic foam and i'll just have this plan in the background. Why not and like. I actually didn't look at the screen at all. I knew what was happening. Just like from me hearing it and it was like this is like auditory visual for me. This is great. Like i knew exactly where it was that like. I knew when ben was inside of the library i knew when he was meeting with the actual bullies and things like that henry bowers and his gang. I do exactly where everything was just by like auditory sensory. Yeah and it's just one of those that it's not necessarily like a really good time because of the story that's being told but you just can't help but like constantly you want to spend time with these kids and speaking of these kids we might as well dive into the cast here real quick because i was reading the stephen king at the movies book just prior to us hopping on this call here and they described the kids as like anti disney ragamuffins. This is like the perfect description of these kids because you know anyone who has caught a glimpse of a disney tv show. It's like all of those kids are very well put together and they seem to have like dad lives having the losers club. It's like the complete opposite and it's not like there aren't good parts of maine. You know i. It's just these kids all come from sort of like broken families in one way or another you. Have you know j. Martell playing bill. Borough jeremy ray taylor as ben han scum sophie ellis as beverly marsh fin wolf. Hard as richie cozier. Chosen jacobs as mike hanlin. Jack dillon grazer as eddie brac wyatt olaf as stanley urus. And then you know bill skarsgard as pennywise of course not one of the children but you know. Yeah that's your losers club and penny wise and then you have nicholas. Hamilton is henry. Bowers jake sim as belch. logan thompson is victor chris. Oh and teague is patrick. Hochstetter and jackson robert scott as george denver. It's like all of these kids have gone on to do a lot of different things. Or you know. I had just seen like owen teague. I think was in bloodline or something. Some netflix show. I was watching. Yeah he's also in the empty man as well. Okay that that's a new thing that i've been seeing pop up that i need to watch. Oh my god is so good. I wash recently but anyway but it's crazy because most of these kids now like obviously when this first came out a lot of people was like. Oh this is a rip off of stranger things. We're like okay. First of all what it came out in nineteen ninety as a miniseries and before that there was literally aid novel but twenty years prior but with all of that like within wolf heart of being the person he was at this time who is now. I guess it's really to see them all kind of go to do these more incredible roles. Now like i'm seeing jack dillon. Grazer how he in my opinion was probably my favorite character as eddie in this little right he was so tiny in now like him. Cinnamon should zam and cnn. In that that one show. I believe by the guy who made the remake of the spirit. But i'm blanking on what that show is called but that was a pretty good show but he's in that as well like he plays a very very intense role but it's it's so interesting to see him now and just to see how like how he is. We are who we are. That's the name of the show but It's so cool to see how these gives us have grown and just have expanded to different cooler projects and stuff like that and kind of seeing their starks with it or i guess within wohlfarth with stranger things but still it's just really really cool as it. Yeah and some of the kids like chosen jacobs was in hawaii five o briefly which is like a huge network show before it ended. Obviously right now. I was watching. This and my mom was in the room and she was like. That's that kit right. But you know so feel as to taking on the role of nancy drew and just everything else that she's done since this and you know twenty seventeen wasn't that long ago but some of these kids have grown like eight feet and i'm right like how did you have this respite. I'm still waiting for mine too. Actually but it it's interesting you say that because like seeing someone like chosen jacobs who was. I think seventeen when this movie came out like it. It's crazy to even. In my opinion he almost looked just as young as eddie. Yeah it was like wow you. They all like religious group to just do these different things and jackson robert scott like i love that kid so much and i think he's so fantastic and he's just such a a a bright light in all of this but he's oddly insanely creepy like an. I don't understand how he can be this creepy. And i wish i wish pet cemetery would've had him in there as well like to be gauged like thought he would have been perfect for that because he knows how to be scary. And i love it yeah..

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05:34 min | 1 year ago

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"Big books. The talisman and black house which are connected or sort of the two. That i'm surprised haven't been adapted. Yeah toscano a pretty big deal. I mean there's opportunity and maybe like. I wonder how involved he is and in decision making process. Do you know like does he get the thumbs up or down on whether or not something gets adapted or who gets adapted by like he turns somebody down and just hope that somebody else asks later. If they think he'll do a better job honestly i've heard he will let anyone make anything if they pay for the rights and he does. What's called the dollar babies. So you can take a short story or novella and by the rights for a dollar and i think that is mostly done for filmmakers who are early in their careers student filmmakers because that is actually how i think frank darabont got to do shawshank. I could be wrong on that. It's been a while since. I've read that in done that episode but it isn't avella and it doesn't apply to the actual novels so it's very interesting the way he does the rights because he wants to give everyone sort of a chance to make their own versions of his stories. But you know we know that he does not like kubrick's the shining even though it's fantastic we. It's not really good as an adaptation because it changes so many things like this except good right except still one of the greatest moves ever made your maybe not the best example there but i think it's just fun to see what people come up with. And obviously the more people adapt things of his the more episodes. I will have to do of this. I know by the time everyone's listening to this. We're getting pretty close to cut up. Which is exciting. And i know that a lot of his stuff. Now it's getting option before the releases even come out like the institute was already option for tv or something like right when it came out. I remember the announcement being like the day of the day after something crazy like that the bidding wars on those must be crazy especially now you know because it blew up. Dr sleep blew up. You have the net flicks originals. That are good from what i know. Anyway i have only seen gerald's game at this point but i think the quality has gone up quite a bit for productions so it makes these things a little more exciting. Because you know you're not going to get something like you would get with an eighties a patient for king. Yeah it's it's. I mean i watch a lot of it. It's it's not just because it's king you know like it. It's just that his stories are so good and they're compelling it's like something you wanna put on it doesn't it's not like i'm going out and i'm watching everything the stephen king may because i don't have a podcast requires me to do so. I do it for all of you. But i watch a lot of it. It's crazy. yeah and it simply because either you know you fred. The book or you're just familiar with the story because there have been two three adaptations exactly. You're like yeah. I never really wanted to watch that movie but other remaking it and i liked the person that's in it share. Yeah i'll watch this right. Yeah well you know what i do. Hope that they that they stopped giving him to mike flanagan. He needs to take a break from from the stuff and try something new. I liked mike flanagan but he he needs to instill kind of walk away from horror for a minute. I think and try something else interesting. Take jacob. I just finished fly manner. That's that's on top of mind. Yeah i personally wouldn't mind if he keeps doing horror. But that's just me and you know. I might be a little biased. The thing is like he makes a movie like hush which is great. It's you know it's i think. Hushes under underappreciated. And it's a good movie to recommend to people because they might not have heard of it. I think it's it's probably on netflix. All of this stuff is now. Yeah but hushes amazing oculus which is just so bad. It's just so uninteresting. I haven't seen that one. I have seen hush though. I don't know this isn't on mike. Flanagan podcast it might become one. He does do a lot of stephen king stuff Some we'll jacob. Thank you for coming on to talk about the missed today. it's been fun. Yes thank you for having me in for doing this so far in advance. Yeah no problem. It helps me out down the line. Somewhere yeah. I hope that this will give you a little bit of a break. I know it won't you just don't be afraid to just take some time off. I know that you like to build up your your back catalogue and everything but then you just keep building up the back kyle back catalogue sometime. Take a little break. Hopefully by the time everyone is listening to this. I will have done that in the next nine months. I share anyway. Thank you again. This is great podcasts. congratulations. I think she just had one hundred episodes. Yeah by the time. Everyone's listening to this though. That would have been forty episodes go. That's amazing while still congratulations. Thank you because it just happened. That that's awesome. Yeah we're time traveling here on this episode all right. That does it for this episode of chad cemetery. You can support the podcast on patriotic for a dollar month. You'll get a thank you on the show for two dollars a month. I will send you a chat cemetery sticker and if you want to follow us on social media you can do so at chat cemetery on twitter. Instagram and facebook. You could also rate and review the show. That's a huge help. And as always thank you for listening and we hope you enjoy the rest of your day..

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06:02 min | 1 year ago

"2017" Discussed on Chat Sematary

"Everyone chat cemeteries back. I'm your host. Diana chapman and i am joined by jacob tender and we are talking all about the twenty seventeen tv series. The missed jacob. How're you doing today. I'm good thanks for having me back. I would like to note that we are recording this nine months in advance for my benefit. Yes well and mine. Because i didn't really want to have to rewatch this yet. That's the trick. I i did. Just watch this recently. Sort of on a whim honestly. I don't even remember. What services on sunday flicks i don't know because i watched it when it was actually airing because the network at the time which was spike tv and is now paramount. If i'm not mistaken change sense this aired. Yeah they were sending me the episodes weekly just to watch and i watched them on my computer. So i was like. I don't even know what's going on with the whole spike tv paramount stuff but i believe it was spike tv at the time because they did. Send me this book. It's like a nice hardcover book. And it has stills from the show it has little character descriptions and has the credits at the back and it's super nice. And i was like. I don't know what purpose this serves but al qaeda because it stephen king. Yeah i mean. That's kind of why i put it on his. Seems like kinda kinda spooky cool. Like i like the story that missed. It's it's a straightforward science fiction or story. But you know. I don't know i didn't have like high hopes or anticipation for this at all. Obviously i watched two years after it came out. I thought it was new. So i don't know when i got to the end of the season and down the i found out that they were no longer making the show. Can't say i was disappointed. Yeah i haven't seen the movie just yet because again. We're recording this so far in advance. I haven't even got into the movie episode. But have you seen the movie i may have but it's been long enough that it's probably best that i just say that i haven't okay. You know what i mean. I wouldn't enough of it. If i did is probably something that i saw like bits and pieces of on tv years ago. That's kind of how i feel about the show but to dive in. I think the cast was interesting because they got enough familiar. Faces like morgan spector. Had been in a few things here and there gusts bernie is the daughter of constance schulman. Who has an orange is the new black and read bernie who is also an actor and i didn't make the connection with her mom but now that i know that and i look at her. I'm like oh yeah. She's like a dead ringer firm on mental areas. I mean both of our parents are are like well established and and known actors in their own right and they have a weird little family. But i i really enjoyed Gust bernie in this in this series. I thought she was great. And you're right. The the cast has a lot of familiar faces. I mean it is francis conroy. For god's sake he's a legend. It has a great cast. It just sort of. I don't know i don't think it really grabbed a lot of folks. I think it had enough interesting characters for people to probably watch another season. But i guess the viewership just wasn't there. I obviously would have watched another season. Because of this podcast. I probably would have combined into one episode though whereas with some of the newer stuff. I'm splitting it up season by season. Which i think we'll just help me. You know as far as consuming it and talking about it because right now at least at the time of us recording this you have things like mr mercedes. You have castlerock in castle. Rock makes sense to go through season by season since it's more anthology based even though it's kind of like american horror story where you'll get those connections which you know. Speaking of american horror story at one of the shows that we know francis conroy. From who like you said is amazing. Isiah whitlock junior. Who was in the wire on my watch list. I haven't seen it just yet. But he's another actor who's been in a bunch of stuff and i think it's a little disappointing that the cast didn't really get as much of a chance to shine as i was hoping because i think the way they wrote some of the characters it's just like when you have things happening to bernie at the beginning who plays alex. Her character comes off as really whiny at times. And i did not like that at all. And obviously she's not whining because of the traumatic thing. That happens to her. Which will to shortly. But it's just the way. They wrote her character. Sometimes i was like. Oh she's going to be a whiny teenage. Yeah well yeah. That's the thing i mean. She is a tanner. And we'll get to all the things that are bothering her in the show. But i guess for my benefit because i don't actually know the answer. This is was the missed. One of stephen king stories or a just a a screenplay. It's a story that was in his one of his earlier collections. I believe it was skeleton. Crew okay okay. So it was like a. It was a short story. It was a novella okay and in the movie did that adhere more strictly to the written story. I have not seen the movie yet. But i have heard that the movie is better than the show because the movie is frank darabont so you know he worked on shawshank and the green mile and so he was very familiar with kings stories and work already so i think that helps when you have people who are returning and you know the present day version i guess would be mike flanagan doing gerald's game and dr sleep and who knows what else by the time. Everyone is listening to this. Whatever netflix will pam to make. Yes oh i think. The movie leans more into the monster aspect of..

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"2017" Discussed on This Day In Esoteric Political History

This Day In Esoteric Political History

05:52 min | 1 year ago

"2017" Discussed on This Day In Esoteric Political History

"I know we will get to this and this comes up when people talk about the instruction six but i also think the same sort thing that you look at your like. We just have to understand the sort of lingering trauma of an incident like that even for lawmakers who we tend to not think of his real human beings and in this case. I absolutely have to keep that in mind. Absolutely has affected both the political discourse but also i think the just sort of the the behavior of individual lawmakers in human beings who go through the experience That's hinting at a bunch of big things. I do wanna get to staying on. Some of the specifics of the incident itself though The shooter and i'm glad we're not saying his name. I feel no need to say his name Unless either you feel it's important to say his name he he died in this But he was by all accounts both mentally distraught but also left wing and so nikki. I'm curious if you can just describe both what we know about that and also how that started to play out in the coverage of this the political dimension here right well we know that he was a left wing activist. As you mentioned. He was somebody who dealt with mental illness. He was also somebody who had a history of violence unsurprisingly into many of these shooting cases The men almost always men. Who carry this out. have this history of domestic violence and the shooter here. Had that as well anti had an agenda he asked somebody who was near the ball field whether it was democrats or republicans practicing and when he was told republicans that's when he seemed to make the decision That he was going to attack and so there was a very clear. I mean that's that's as clear of a. I am motivated to shoot republicans story as you're going to get and l. While was made of this in the press at the time. I think i mean it certainly was the case that at least in in conservative media. They pointed out that. Here's somebody who was often talked about as a bernie sanders supporter. Bernie sanders instantly. Denounces both this person and the violence and reiterates that he doesn't think his supporters should use violence in order to achieve their political goals But that becomes part of the narrative and impart it comes to mirror or often refers back to the shooting of gabby giffords in two thousand eleven. It just the jump in. That's the arizona representative who was shot along with. I think almost twenty other people in two thousand and eleven giffords was democrat but similar situation. The person who carried it out had all sorts of mental issues with there was this larger political context and motivation as well. Sorry go ahead remember. At that time there was a lot of finger pointing people like sarah palin who used violent imagery shots over the pictures of her political opponents and there was a big discussion at the time about violent rhetoric and violent acts..

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"2017" Discussed on Horror Vein

Horror Vein

05:22 min | 1 year ago

"2017" Discussed on Horror Vein

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"2017" Discussed on Horror Vein

Horror Vein

07:21 min | 1 year ago

"2017" Discussed on Horror Vein

"Did that to you. Know no no. And when i finish what like rob is gonna rip me a new al. He's gonna he's gonna be. I'm watching a film at the beginning. And i'm like oh cam not into this film and then this like i said the liquor store thing. I'm like okay back. And then when they get they go to build this little shrine to get like this little stuff like a drive. The guy you didn't you didn't know no no no listen listen. Listen aren't so they they do all this stuff so they pack up to leave and then it starts raining so then. The shrine is like being devastated by heavy rain. So i'm like okay. Well i'll let i see what you're saying. That wasn't even worth it. I kind of like the series of Stupid things. I don't know like yeah starts off in the in the liquor store. He's stupid he doesn't stand up. I friend maybe. What i'd i guess. I your nets instead of rob. I know it is a tough situation. I i it. I i did but i was like okay. You're gonna show this devastating scene but has no connection to the film whatsoever other than the fan other other than the fact that is guilty and his friends hate him because he didn't stand up. I wasn't attention but nothing. Nothing was connected and yeah there was a tension in whatever underlying tension but then really matter. Because i didn't really get to know any of the character sudden careful when he died wasn't like a big thing it was like you know you look at hush back to look at harsh. I like ashby. i like the main character. Yeah well not just because you've seen her and other movies but no it's not the end. She's hot no has nothing. Oh yeah the has nothing to do with it. I liked her character and i was rooting for her. And i didn't feel like that towards any of those characters Because like i said after the incident in the liquor store. I just didn't respect. The character like his friends at respect them concrete this week. Maybe he's going to change and it is you know as friends are just kinda their wishy washy and then all of a sudden. There's a huge hole there walking. How did this guy miss it. I don't know me. I may have to watch it but only when it falls into whole like oh right right right. Right right yeah. Yeah and they're like well. We're we're going to have to go through the forest a shortcut. Yeah obviously there's a trail in the people know you're on the trail and again i don't have any experience hiking but if i'm going into a force that they don't know i would usually leave tags so i could galley out. I was smart. Yeah here they are with a compass but then the compass doesn't work. Yeah but they keep going forward and then the next thing they see is gutted animal and they still keep going suspended from the then tonight is to then you start seeing the pig signs. And i'm like and they keep going forward and then you get to this cabin. They break into the cabin right and they get into the cabin and i'm like i don't blame him because it was raining really hard. Okay i get it. But then i see that and you see this training like what do you need to be presented to you to go. This is a bad idea. Let's get the fuck out of this but the movies so no so. So what i'm saying is it's like really bad screenwriting. It was stupid. you needed something else. Go this idea that okay. So that's the point is you're making is that my point is that they needed to rework the whole the reason why they're in the forest. I think they needed to build the legend of the creature. So could buy it. It just was thrown at you. See what you're saying. Okay you're you're you're taking in all this stuff and you're not giving me reasons to bring to believe you because you're dealing with stupid characters. I see that was my first rate. So i guess what i'm thinking then as a screen writer director would have you. Maybe absolute like what you're saying. Rework the story but of of scientists going. Oh there's this creature was seen was like bigfoot right. You want me to believe in bigfoot. And i don't and cabin i do. I see what you're saying because these people are explaining it but at least i know something about bigfoot. I don't know anything about this north creature and unless you do research i mean they try to explain to you but a heat that are gonna put you on his. I'm gonna put you on the spot now. You can make the same argument that why. Why is something alien or aliens different. They're going to this planet. They don't know what's going on there. I i by an alien by an a by the alien The way it's presented I bought it. But then you're looking at this big four legged creature that's basically skin and bones right. I'm an alien creature that has substance to it. I can buy that lives on an you know on two different life another planet. I see what you're saying. This is a mythological creature. That's basically i don't think it's alive or dead. I don't know what it is. I see what you're saying. It's a something of loki Was their explanation. Was so maybe what we could have done is like this. Let me just. You'll get people's normal reactions like what you're saying you walk in. You see these symbols okay. That's a red flag. You see this animal suspended from a tree got it. That's the huge red flag. So you turn around and walk. No no no wait. Wait wait wait wait. Wait the first red flag before they got into. The forest was the abandoned. Volkswagen doll right right. Like what is that was one here right. Okay yeah that was. That was even before they got into the forest. Okay so i guess what you could have done is to. The compass. Three was a good at creature right or was the thing in the second. Well let me just. Let me get this out now. Then they're here her here. Are all your flags your red flag so now what you could do you could have done is take and then have them walk away from these things and put them in a different such an another situation and take the movie in that direction. Which would have made more sense than having them go forward. Is that kind of what you're saying which makes sense to me well. No what i'm saying is is that the whole movie should've been changed. It should have been. Maybe it was. I'm an. I'm just throwing some like a group a group of scientists. The you know the one guy. Was you know researching norse legends. And they're like well if you go to one forest has been sightings missing. There's been missing campers and all this other stuff so that would give them a reason to stay in the forest because they're trying to find it there in the forest are lost but yet they don't want to leave. I seem to zero because the guys need but the guy is walking fine. It wasn't there wasn't any. I see you know urgency to this guy. You know he wasn't. It wasn't a life or death. Situation was absolutely moving around pretty good. So why don't you fucking just take the long way around around win..

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"2017" Discussed on Horror Vein

Horror Vein

06:50 min | 1 year ago

"2017" Discussed on Horror Vein

"You can listen to the lost journals on your favourite podcasting apps including apple podcasts. Google podcasts amazon music and now i heart radio. All car of the fear film studios podcast network. If you're looking for something fun geeky and motivational to listen to check out this podcast shannon the slayer where we are slaying negatively and taking your mentality to the next level one episode at a time. So if you're ready it's time to level up. We're slowly pay. That was we got the video. I can make all these stupid. I can do things like point with my hands. And just now i gotta watch you know remain. I don't wanna pick my nose or anything. I just say you know. I noticed in the last video. Your like picking your. I didn't need to just yeah. You know over here. I got god knows how many so this week. We're good the ritual yes. Don't pick your nose where we're doing. I'm just yeah. I don't have all the information in front of me but well in the front. The funniest thing i thought was when i saw the poster for the movie it says this should have gone to vegas. Yes well yeah and they even talk about that film now. Stupid long before really hard. and i. i don't know how you feel about. We're gonna find out soon. Find out that's for sure how you felt about this film but let me just say that It's a netflix original horror film. Yes it came up. You know like the amazon. You know has suggestions for you. This came up as suggestion for me because of all the other stuff that i've watched the trailer for heard about it. I get kinda mixed with another movie but go ahead saw. Here's what i did. You know it. You know you're like don it's your neck next so you know. Think about a movie. So i'm like you know what okay. I walked over to my. Dvd's i'm looking at. You know what i mean. Let me let me turn on netflix. I know rob as netflix's now so let me just bring net flicks up start flick clicking around. I'm like you know done. Is this all this very necessary. Absolutely so then. I'm like you know what. Let me. just let me google the top. Ten horror films on net flicks. So i did that. Okay tomatoes right and it was uh well. They liked it to believe it or not. This came off the top. Ten horror flicks on netflix Some like oh all right. So i watched the trailer and it looked really good. You know some like all right. I'm gonna. I'm gonna take a chance on this one. I'm i'm gonna i'm gonna deviate firm from our normal path. I'm gonna i'm to branch out and try this netflix's horror film. So that's why i suggested it and we'll start with you rob start. Well i could start. You want me to start. I can start. I wanna only. I want your opinion since you pick this only here. Well they know where i'm coming from. I have mixed feelings. Good so i really. I really liked the beginning The the scene in the in the In the convenience store that was fantastic. That was great. And i liked how. They were really good friends because here for our listeners. So there's some spoilers will talk about that in our little but ago cans warnings. Yeah so you know. If you haven't seen the film and you know take a break anyway come back and listen to the rest of the podcast after you've watched but anyway so yes so you know it just re. What a realistic scene. You know i mean i just felt like oh my god. What if i was put in that situation. You know they just go into buy a few things for their trip and they're just these goal. Yeah that's what was roy. Liquor store robert. yeah. I mean just like in this. His friend gets attacked already. Had been at the pub drinking. I know now. They need more for their trigger and stay his his friends Friend ends up getting murdered And he's behind hiding behind one of the shelves holding a bottle of liquor. Just torn you know. What do i come to attack them with this bottled way. What do i do and before he can really decide you know his front. Yeah so what i felt. That was a really powerful scene. And then you know they were. They were really good friends. They decided to take this trip. And i liked what they did. At the time you know. They climbed to the top of the mountain and they did a little memorial for this friend. I liked that. I liked the tension between didn't anne workout either but good. Well we'll get to that. But i want to get your take but i'm you asked me i. I'm going i so i. I liked that they had this this underlying frost tension like tench. Is that what you call it. Okay yeah because it's like some of the french fault like he should have done something some you know you go ahead. You don't find out until later but right so it's like and they you know they fight about it later but i like that fact that you know the one friend goes wasn't your fault. Don't worry about it. let's try to put it behind us. Let's take this camping trip or whatever I liked all of that until this shooter went to vegas. Yeah they should have they when you find but no and you know. They're going to go through the forest and you know she's going to go down and that it was obviously in the trailer It had me up until when they woke up in the cabin and they were having the nightmares. It didn't like When the when you finally see the people that didn't like that wasn't that wasn't the moment So that was before the people. Yeah i liked the When they i walked in. And i think it was a cow or whatever it was that was suspended from the trees. That was gutted that was. I like that now Now before before you go forward okay. If you were walking in the forest and you saw that i know. Rob i know and they argued about that. They did the like..

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