36 Burst results for "2016"
In 'Stillwater,' an American Oil-Rig Worker Seeks to Exonerate His Daughter
"It's a familiar story. The stereotypical American goes abroad crass and brutally honest, but with a heart of gold, who breaks all kinds of rules to save the day. But while the new movie still Water may wink at this formula, it has its own story to tell about America's place in the world. You're innocent, so we gotta keep fighting. It doesn't matter that I'm innocent Dad. It's not about justice about finding peace. That's Matt Damon as Bill Baker, a former oil rig worker who travels to Marseilles, France, to see his estranged Daughter, Alison, played by Abigail Breslin. She's in prison accused of the murder of a local French Arab girl, but claims to be innocent, and Baker struggles with the unfamiliar language, culture and legal system as he attempts to free her The movie is out now in theaters and its director is Tom McCarthy, who won the Academy Award for best original screenplay for Spotlight in 2016. I began by asking him if the real life case of the murder of MEREDITH Kercher, which sent American Amanda Knox to an Italian prison in 2000, and seven before she was eventually acquitted. Inspired this film. I would say the seed was there. I started the script 10 years ago, Really? And I was sort of fascinated with that case, particularly the idea of An American student being imprisoned and then ultimately focusing on the relationship between as you point out her and her estranged father. So it started there and worked on this first draft of the script with another writer, and I just got into a place where it just was straight up thriller. I just felt it lacked dimension and Maybe authenticity, and I sort of put it down. I made the decision is director not to pursue it. Put it in a drawer for about 67 years and I picked it up again and I re approached it sort of from Page one with two new French writers. And we really talked right off the bat with Tamar. But again, in the way Debray about exploring the sort of you know all the dimensions of this story, the human dimension of it. The thriller Dimension suspends
Fresh update on "2016" discussed on The Situation with Michael Brown
"In April. 2016, the wife of a rural Georgia police officer, is found inside a locked closet. Two shots have been fired from her husband's service weapon, her head resting on a pillow, the victim of an apparent gunshot wound. But what really happened inside that closet and in the hours and minutes before the shots rang out, people do things that don't make sense when under stress under dynamic situations. They're crumbling Marriage was no secret high school sweethearts. We're ready to call it quits, but was Jessica Boynton at the point of no return? Nothing in my mind said that she was suicidal in my mind. I knew she was upset and dealing with maybe some minute depression. But who wouldn't when your husband's cheating on you that would hurt Anybody? What about the gunshots heard hours before her husband reported hearing shots had just laid down when that first shot went off. My fiance was like someone punch on. What about the physical evidence? Her hands were pristine and clean. There was no gunshot residue we found on her. Authorities may say that the investigation was complete the road exhaustive and it's led to this finding I disagree with that. And many others do as well. I really believed that we would get justice. We haven't We haven't the officer's wife, a new podcast from vault studios. Listen and follow this podcast for free on the I Heart radio app number one for music, radio and podcasts, all in one Heart where you go. Here are the top hard songs that you've thumb dot number three Barrack Cuda, and if the.
Tokyo Olympics: US Pole Vault Champion, Sam Kendricks, Tests Positive for COVID-19
"At the 2016 Olympics in Rio and pole vaulter Sam Kendrick. Came to Japan with his sights set on gold. Well, now he's tested positive for Covid Dr Richard Budget, the medical and scientific director for the International Olympic Committee. It's tough for any athlete when they're sick in the lead up to this major event, and on top of that, if it happens to be covid 19 You end up in an isolation hotel, which is really hard to track and field events start on Saturday, but Sam Kendricks is out of this year's Olympics. Jim Ryan ABC News Tokyo Meanwhile, it was another successful
LinkedIn Reaches Milestones in Microsoft’s Fiscal Year Financial Report
"The highlights of Microsoft's latest earnings release was linked in which Microsoft acquired back in 2016. Its annual revenue surpassed $10 billion for the first time up 27% from the previous year, amidst, of course, a very tumultuous year. For the workforce. Joining us now. Here in the studio. LinkedIn CEO Ryan are Slansky on your one year anniversary as the CEO of LinkedIn. Congratulations and good to have you You took over as CEO. I guess you've been working there for more than a decade. But in the middle of a pandemic when not only were you dealing with a lot of transition internally, but the entire work force. The whole platform was going through a transition. What was that? Like to navigate? Yeah. I mean, if I went back a year ago. No means that I think that I'll be starting this role from my bedroom with my kids doing school work around the house trying to navigate the company through a global pandemic. So it was definitely it was challenging with a challenging year, though, for everyone across the world and You know? You don't get to choose to be a CEO. Only when the sun is shining. You can't be a leader only when things are good and more than anything, I'm really proud of how our company came together or to place Now where we're over. 6000. People are getting a job on LinkedIn Every day. We help train 42 million people on the platform last year to navigate the pandemic. Resulting in what we just announced yesterday, which is for our first time in history, $10 billion in revenue for the year for the company, which I'm very proud of not too
Caller Talks About Growing Our Movement From the Ground Up
"Good to talk to you again. Last time we spoke, was right Before the 2016 election. I was still employed as a corrections officer up here in Washington. Yeah, well, now there's no use for correction officers are letting everybody out of prison. I My wife, uh, is, uh, has been listened to your show a lot and I've been working all the wives love me. That's pretty interesting. Anyway. Go ahead. Yeah, but no, I just wanted to say that, uh, we've been getting a little more active up this way and the only way we're going to really get a chance to Keep Things halfway normal in our country is from the ground up and that 100% agree community. You're absolutely right today running for our city. I met a guy today running for City Council real good guy, And so I'm going to start making more of a habit and sitting down with these people, and I think I think that's the only way we're going to be able to do it because we can't stop these people from swimming all there's a lot of ways we can, as opposed that not just electing people, which we ought to do. But we have to attack those who have devoured the the culture and our politics For whom elections don't matter. The India doesn't care who you elect. They intend to be around forever. We have a permanent government here. In many respects the bureaucratic Levison These teachers unions they own and run our school districts. School board members come and go. I'm not saying that's a minor fact. I mean, I'm saying it's important to like the right people, but We have to go after the enemy. We need to call them the enemy. We need to call them what they are. And until we do that, we're not going to win. We're certainly not. Maybe we'll win a little here and there, but we're not really going to seriously look.
Trump Didn't Know He Was in a War With the Deep State in 2016
"Do you think trump has finally woken up to the idea that he kind of squandered opportunities that he was like me and like many persuaded that He might be able to get some things done not aware that he was in fact in an all out war. Yeah i would. I would cut trump's some some real slack for not realizing that the left was not going to permit the legitimate transition of power in two thousand sixteen and they never did. The left rejected the the results of the two thousand sixteen election and use every method fair and foul terrorist methods. Creating a fake dossier that links an american citizen like donald trump that links into the farm power and suggests that he's committing treason making up the lab dossiers putting him in hotel rooms. Doing disgusting acts with prostitutes taking bribes from foreign governments making all of that up and then the fbi knowing it is a pack of lies and using its power destroying people's lives going to go after. Mike flynn george popadopoulos. Pablo carter page destroying people's lives in service. What they knew was ally. This is how the east german stasio operated. So i don't know. Donald trump did not realize that the deep state were anti-american evil terrorist force. That must be rooted out of america and the hundreds of these people deserve to spend the rest allies in federal prison. That's how bad the fbi is. The fbi should be abolished at every executive members should be investigated with an inch of their lives to find out how for instance so many of them could go public and say the hunter biden. Laptop was russian disinformation. They said all that just before the election they said the case against donald trump was solid. They lied to us. They used our own government against us just as surely as your andropov used his government against the russian people in the nineteen eighty s. We are dealing with a domestic dictatorship. That is using facebook and twitter to get around the first amendment censor free speech. You can't even ask questions about the legitimacy in the last election. Or whether it's a good idea to take maxine. No you're going to be silenced. And the federal government is going to coordinate with these allegedly private companies in order to silence your free speech. Are you alarm yet. Are you angry
Top Golfers Jon Rahm and Bryson DeChambeau out of Tokyo Olympics
"Olympics after testing positive for the coronavirus as NPR's Tom Goldman reports from Tokyo. Number one ranked Jon Rahm of Spain and number six American Bryson D. Shambo will miss the competitions scheduled to start this Thursday. It was stunning news in the golf World. First USA Golf announced. Bryson D. Shambo tested positive as part of the final protocol before he traveled to Japan than just hours later. The Spanish Olympic Committee said Jon Rahm was positive after undergoing a third straight test. The first two were negative. The multiple tests were required since he was in the UK last week, playing in the Open championship. Where he finished third Rams test result is a startling repeat of last month when he had to withdraw from the tournament he was leading after testing positive. Spanish officials say there's not enough time to find a replacement. The U. S will replace Shambo with Patrick Reed, who played in the 2016 Olympics. Tom Goldman. NPR NEWS Tokyo Tennessee will
Recounting the Yankees' Most Excruciating Losses
"How many times can you name the yankees How many games can you recall where they had a lead. In the ninth at fenway park recently recent history and lost only recent history. You got this one last night. Three one pretty bad very bad. Twenty seventeen year old is chapman walked the bases-loaded and blew a one run lead and they eventually got walked up. Andrew benintendi remember that very clearly 2016. They blew like a four nothing lead in its anarchist start and hanley. Ramirez walked off with a three run home. Run to dead center field. That happened two thousand eighteen. The three run lead in the ninth mcginlay do it with the throwing error the it and then eventually they got walked off. Of course they did. I mean that's four since two thousand sixteen fairly confident. That's not all of them didn't happen last year. There were no fans. Gary sanchez actually came back. In the ninth against the red sox. That was nice It's at least one a year. It's a kind of lost that should maybe occur in this rivalry once every five or six years
Trump Ally Tom Barrack Charged With Acting as Foreign Agent
"One of former President Donald Trump's old friends, who also advised him has been charged with trying to steer American policy in favor of a foreign country. Federal prosecutors say Tom Barrack lobbied for the United Arab Emirates between 2000 and 16 and 2000 and 18. But he did not register as an agent of a foreign country with us now is NPR contributor Ilian Marital Alia. Good morning. You've been covering the relationship between barrack and Trump for a very long time. What is their deal? Tom Barrack is a 74 year old private equity investor based in California. He's very successful. He was on the cover of Forbes. Once in 2000 and five They called him the world's best real estate investor. And in his personal style. He is smooth and gracious and self facing. He connected with Donald Trump a long time ago, 1988 when Barrack was handling the sale of the Plaza Hotel, and Trump wanted it. Trump bought the hotel for $390 million but ended up selling it a few years later at a loss but listen to how Tom Barrack described that transaction at the Republican National Convention in 2016, he says it was Trump who got the better of the deal. Barrack said Trump told him You just tell me the things that I should know? And how to fix it, and I'll do this deal. He played me like a Steinway piano. Mm. So the two men became friends. Baruch became one of the few major business leaders to endorse Trump early in 2016, and that's the point in time where this indictment picks up, Okay. And so what do prosecutors say? Baruch did According to the indictment, right around the time that Tom Barrack started raising money for the Trump campaign and vouching for Trump with the business community, he also embarked on a conspiracy to influence the candidates take positions favorable to the United Arab Emirates. So in an energy policy speech in Bismarck, North Dakota candidate Trump said he would take the United States out of the Paris climate
WNBA Star Liz Cambage Withdraws From Olympics, Citing Mental Health
"Today about Liz Cambage. Um, you know, She has been very open about her mental health struggles. She wrote a story for the Players Tribune a couple years ago, acknowledging that she had been on suicide watch in 2016. She has some D N. P s for panic attacks. Um, has struggled with substance abuse. So when this comes out today, there is, of course, absolutely empathy and respect for her decision to protect herself. But of course, there's more to the story than that. There's the conversation around her partying in Vegas and violating Protocols. There's the story of an altercation in practice or in that friendly with Nigeria, the closed door matchup. How do you reconcile all the different parts of that story in in terms of her, then announcing she would remove herself from the situation perhaps before they had an opportunity to do just that without, you know, without her doing it. Well, I think that first and foremost, the mental health aspect is key. And a lot of the other behaviors and I have nothing to um You know, I have no facts to base on the other stuff that you mentioned. All I know is that first and foremost The middle health aspect and to be able to address and acknowledge that she has some mental health issues and to remove herself from the team. To take care of herself. First, I think is the most important thing.
Why Did the Media Withhold Information on Hunter Biden Until After Election?
"Politico just released the piece a little while ago talking about the hunter Biden investigation and the Department of Justice and how they they did their best to sideline any information from getting out to the public before the election about this hunter Biden case. They may say, Well, they should do that They could. They should keep the existence of these investigations. Private Really? Would involve something this grave like a president, United States Joe Biden, the big guy. Who may have been in cahoots with his son to take money from foreign enemies of the United States. You don't think that's an interest of national importance but of interest in national ports before the election. Who told you that? Hear from the politico piece. It says last summer, federal officials in Delaware. We're investigating Hunter Biden and they face the dilemma. The probe reached the point where prosecutors could have sought search warrants. An issued a flurry of grand jury subpoenas. Some officials involved in the case wanted to do just that. Others urged caution. They advised the U. S attorney in the case, David Wise to avoid taking any actions that could alert the public to the existence of the case in the middle of a presidential election. Then they celebrate. To his credit. He listens to the person involved in discussions now. I know, you know. Listen, I know leftist. I've been around them for over 10 years. Now I know all their tricks, their stunts, their scams. That's all they are. Scammers. Uh, liars, fraudsters. That's all I know other stands and they're going to say Listen, there was an investigation into trump in collusion. You know the difference. Being the collusion thing was fake. Um, and nobody leaked out before the election either. Really? That's interesting, cause I pulled up this article I use all the time Dated October 31st 2016 Last time I checked producer Jim that was before the election, right? The election was November. 2016. Can you verify that for me? Yes. Said okay. Thank you. That is correct, Mike Double? Yeah, we get a double Get a twofer on
"2016" Discussed on Chat Sematary
"Hey everyone chet cemetery is back. I'm your host. The anna chapman. And today i am joined by brazzi hodson and we are discussing the 2016 adaptation cell which is a movie that i don't think either myself or brad would like to watch again brad. How you doing today too bad. And you're definitely right about that. I can't imagine setting through this film but thanks for having me on to talk about. Why yeah of course and full disclosure here were recording this one a few months in advance specifically because i did not want to have to rewatch down the line because a few months ago i did. A guest. Appearance on the podcast. I hope you suffer to discuss this movie as well. They wanted to talk about a bad stephen king movie. They weren't doing a whole month of stephen king movies this year but check out. I hope you suffer. If you haven't. I'll have a link to my episode appearance in the show notes. But brad you know given the cast you would think cell would have been a better movie. Yeah completely not only. Is it a fantastic cast. But it's cusak. In jackson teamed up for an adaptation of king's work that i really lied Which is fourteen a. And i thought they were both fantastic and that and not so much in this. Yeah fourteen eight hands down a better patient. Yeah i'm still kind of in shock. I think marching this and it's weird. It's i'm a fan of bad movies. I love watching bad because oftentimes they're funny. Everyone involved will swing for the fences in that way. I always say what's enjoyable about that movies. Is that all good. Movies are good in the same handful of ways..
NBA Rumors: Pelicans Plan to Hire Former Sixer Willie Green as Head Coach
"Head coach of the New Orleans Pelicans. So David Griffin has his next man to lead Zion Williamson. Last year. It was Stan Van Gundy the year before that it was Alvin Gentry. It's just now going to be the third head coach that Zion Williamson is going to have his third year in the league. Now, when you look at Willie Green Clearly has an extensive basketball background was in Philly, the Hornets in New Orleans. Atlanta. Play with the Clippers was with Orlando as a player the last few years, though, because just because you're a former player doesn't mean that you're going to be a great coach. You want to see what experience? Yes. Sometimes guys have a lot of experience. Sometimes guys have no experience. Willie Green was on the Golden State Warriors staff 2016 2019. And Is on the sun staff, too. Currently So this is someone That has been around the league now for a while. And Yeah. I don't know how
Musk Goes on Offensive in Court Defense of Tesla's SolarCity Purchase
"Tesla CEO Elon Musk is set to appear in court today to defend the electric automaker's 2016 acquisition of Solar City. Some Tesla shareholders have sued mosque and other board members over the $2.6 billion deal, arguing that it unfairly enriched musk and his family who are big shareholders in the
GM Recall: Side Air Bags Can Explode in Chevy, GMC Pickups
"Motors announcing a recall involving more than 400,000 pickups in the United States. Correspondent Mike Hemp in reports the recall cover certain 2015 and 2016 Chevrolet and GMC Sierra 1525 135 100 Trucks U. S safety regulators say the airbag inflator can rupture are the end cap can fly off on both sides of the trucks. GM says it has no reports of injuries. The company says a manufacturing defect allowed moisture into the inflator while it was being manufactured, causing corrosion. Dealers will replace both side airbag modules about 9000 of the trucks were recalled last year for the same problem.
Deadly Accident at Iowa Amusement Ride Is 2nd Since 2016
"Authorities in Iowa are investigating an amusement park accident that killed a boy on a water ride adventure lands park in Altoona Iowa is a privately owned amusement park among its water rights is raging river where a conveyor belt moves rafts through pretend river rapids on Saturday a raft with six people flipped over there were serious injuries to several and Sunday eleven year old Michael here me died there were off duty police and fire personnel at the park responded helping to free the riders from the water detectives and state inspectors are investigating what happened the ride was inspected just Friday according to adventure land in twenty sixteen a worker was killed on that same ride when it began moving unexpectedly the man fell onto the conveyor belt and became wedged between a boat and a concrete sidewall I am Jackie Quinn
Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich Explains Supreme Court 6-3 Decision on State Voting Laws
"There was a big decision in the United States Supreme Court today. 6 to 3. Upholding Arizona's election law. And it's receiving passing attention, but it's actually quite a significant victory. I think a lot of the other state legislatures that care about the integrity of their vote. Looking on this with a big smile and we have the attorney general of Arizona is responsible for bringing it in defending that state's election law. Mark Berna vich. It's nice to meet you, sir. Thank you, Mark. Thank you very much for having me on really an honor and a pleasure. Likewise. So tell us what happened here and then what the court decided. Uh, Reader's Digest version is in 2016. The Arizona Legislature had passed guidelines regarding who can collect and deliver ballots, and additionally, Arizona had along this book from the 19 seventies that basically limited the ability of folks to vote out of precinct so The left as they've been doing shortly before elections. Usually, they'll come in and we'll start challenging laws trying to create chaos and trying to stack the deck to their advantage when it comes to election integrity, So I stepped in. I defended our state laws we actually won After attendee trial at the District Court, Of course, the ninth Circuit ninth Circus overturned. That is the over, said the statutes were essentially racist because they couldn't find another reasons. It's write them down, and so I appealed it, and I personally argued the case the U. S Supreme Court. As you just said, Mark, we won 6 to 3.
Robinhood Ordered to Pay $70M for 'Significant Harm' to Consumers
"Has been ordered to pay about $70 million for systemic supervisory failures. This, according to a statement from FINRA that is the financial industry Regulatory Authority. It said again in the statement that had found that Robin Hood has quote negligently communicated false and misleading information to its customers during certain periods since September, 2016. Again. It has been fined
French Woman Convicted of Killing 'Monster' Abuser, Set Free
"French woman is walking free after being convicted of shooting dead her husband in 2016 following what she calls decades of abuse. Valerie Backhoe, was sentenced to a year in prison time She's already served. She left the courtroom Friday in France to loud applause. The case has sparked a national conversation about domestic abuse in
Iran's President-Elect Says Talking About Missiles Is 'Off Limits'
"On Iran is getting ready for another round of indirect talks aimed at reviving the 2015 nuclear deal. But a newly elected president of Iran doesn't want to take on other issues The Americans are hoping to discuss. NPR's Michele Kelemen reports hardliner Ibrahim Breezy, will be sworn in as Iran's president in August, and he's already making clear that some topics are off limits like the country's missile program. But the Biden administration wants to talk about missiles and get a better nuclear deal with Iran. The first step is getting back into the one the Trump administration left. That job falls to US envoy Robert Malley. I don't think that this window is going to be open forever at some point will have to conclude that this is not succeeding, but we're not there yet. We still think that it's that it's possible. We still think that it's certainly in our interest. We think it's in Iran's interest to, but they'll have to make that decision for themselves. In an interview to air on Fridays morning edition, Malle says the negotiations in Vienna have been tough. Iran wants more financial relief than the U. S. Is willing to offer and the U. S. Wants to. In Malley's words, rewind the tape on work Iran has done since the Trump administration left the deal like building its supply of nuclear fuel. Get back to where we were in 2016. With a cap on on the levels of enrichment, with the cap on what centrifuges they could use and rich with a cap on the amount of enriched uranium they could have. And with the IAEA, the nuclear inspectors being able to monitor Everything they're doing, which is not occurring today. Iran refuses to meet US diplomats, O'Malley passes messages through European diplomats He's also raising the cases of detained Americans, though Biden administration officials insist that this is separate from the nuclear diplomacy.
"2016" Discussed on ARN
"Yeah and i think that's kind of hard to argue especially the way they position this match. I mean the story is they're going to do a account out and eleven minutes and fifty four seconds. Shane comes out to restart the match. But this time with no count outs. He hits the palay kick in a four fifty rains gets his knees up and nearly pen style. Styles comes back and jumps off the top rope but rains punches him. It's supposed to be a low blow but rains actually punched him in the gut but aj selling it like a low blow and they call for a huge and fifteen seconds later so this brings stephanie. Our restarts it and now it's a no deke. No count out match so rains. Hits a couple of superman punches. And that brings karl anderson. And luke gallows out they pull. Aj out of the ring so he can't get pinned and then they attack. Roman they put the boots to him and then gallows put rain on his shoulder while anderson hit a running kick the boot of doom. If you will and and the idea here is. Aj never saw these guys interfere so the age hits springboard forearm but even after all that rain's gets his foot on the ropes so that brings usos out styles close to the top rope moraine shoves him off and he lands on gallows anderson and the usos and then rain's does a big running dive over the top onto everyone. Aj comes back with another springboard forearm. This time off the barricade he threw styles in and hit the springboard for fifty but rains kicked out and then he hits the styles clash rains or sets it up rather rains backdrop side of it flipping styles over the top rope. He goes for the superman punch but aj snaps his neck on the top rope. He gets in but rain spinners and get the pin so we're trying to go with. Aj gas but we're really heavy on tv. Storyline on a pay per view. And i realized the network era. So it's not really pay per view or not really spending thirty or forty dollars but shane involved and stephanie. Involved in the usos involved and the good brothers involved. It's just too much gaga for me. Why not just let the guys go teradata. Well each one of those false finishes felt like. Aj was going over. You could sense it in the audience there were. They kept putting these layers and layers and layers. My question is going back if if these newly if these bosses all the mcmahon's and they got all this power and all this stroke and they're building the women's division now they want wanna make that equal to the man's while when somebody went out and race starter that match when there was a bail that apparently came from the referee's decision but there was no tap out. See what she where. I'm going with that. Why why we're all these things done for the last match and not done for that match before we skip ahead that makes sense. Yeah it really when you look at it in its entirety. You went jesus christ. I don't get it but in this particular match. You know where you got a lot of bells and whistles like that and there they're at least leading you to what you think is gonna be the outcome and i think a lot of people in that chicago crowd the way that thing was building. Aj was going to pull it off because she kept pulling spectacular stuff out of his hat all the way till the very end And i think the match paid off as far as being a main event and having some bells and whistles you probably shouldn't have had any involvement in any of the other matches for this one to matter and to make sense. Save it for the end all the gaga in the rick and bracket involved in the match. You know i'm sure scattered throughout the match. Even maurice getting involved into the mrs match. You know they're gonna do it all on the end. Don't do it before that Owens and sammy got involved on the tail. End of of the match and mass. For what a little weird you know feels like Just made the pay per view less than just sorta cheapened it for me but still it was a critical success as we said it was overwhelmingly thumbs up a lot of good action. Even if we don't necessarily love the finishes let's say you thumbs up thumbs down thumbs in the middle. Well i value your opinion. I'm lashing one last question. If they did just have it be a batch have a straight finish roman retains. I don't think you would have put. Aj over at that point. Do you think that that's better. Just do it that way or do you think you've heard. Aj now three shows in a row. He was not successful. I think there's enough gaga at. This didn't really hurt him. But i don't know that it helped anybody either. Which makes me think what's the point what you're fan and if you didn't walk away from their going short man. I didn't know what the hell was going to win that until the very end if you weren't concerned in that story if that wasn't what you had in your mind did didn't work and i'm just doing hypotheticals. I don't have an opinion on whether it worked or not. I've just said. I can see what the partially what the.
"2016" Discussed on ARN
"Mania or pre show stopper. That's it something like that either way. Ryback had disagreements regarding his character placement on certain cards. This is the end of him. What can you tell us about this match and just ri- backs frustration at the. Tom was it just. He was burn out he was injured. He was hurting not happy with what he's doing or was he just done with. Wwe defame well for those that. Don't remember coast. They probably weren't there at the previous mania they were on the pre show and it was in the afternoon. Just say match so this would have been a return. Yeah and there was nobody there and see it costs of all the issues with getting in the arena. People were gonna come that early some of them but they had problems giddy actually through some of the gates was my understanding is right so you know you have that match. Ryback could overwrite in a battle. Now you've got a different scenario and chicago where you audience is give the back and the guy went out. And they made their performance the previous show it mania fail by comparison to this much better match much better match at on his way out. He wanted to have a good. You know he wanted to have a good batch and it didn't matter that manny was half. This is now you know. The comment was made earlier. Manny was off course with one of his spinning dives and it looked bad. That rod beck had to adjust to catch him what it looked worst. Let drop on his head just say. Hey it's conrad thompson what you're thinking. This guy has another podcast. Listen i get it. Let me explain for years. I've been asked if you can have a podcast with anyone in wrestling today. not me. And i'll been consistent. That one of those names was jeff jarrett and hear me out here. Jeff jarrett is a third generation promoter. He grew up in the memphis territory. Broken the business and eighty six one the air continental and walked out on. Vince mcmahon and ninety five. He jumped ship to start working with the horsemen and ninety six and then told the world what he really thought about austin three sixteen in ninety eight. He held up. Vince mcmahon for a ton of cash ninety nine and jumped ship again to become world. Champion in two thousand and then on the final night of the monday night war the only ever raw nitro simulcast. He was publicly fired by. Vince mcmahon in two thousand one so without a job in wrestling he decides to embrace his family heritage as a promoter and create jobs himself started his own promotion and how to and then a former. Ww employee who was on his team committed fraud that nearly bankrupted both him and his father so he found an angel investor of sorts who ended up being indicted on one of the largest financial schemes in american history but both of those guys facing prison time he met with a public relations firm in nashville to figure out how to save face only to find out the lady. He was talking to at billionaire parents. And that's when things got really crazy. If jeff jarrett's life story were a movie script. Nobody would believe conrad. Welcome to my world here by story like you never heard it before unfiltered an uncensored for the very first time from memphis to the wwf wcw a and everywhere in between nothing is off limits in my world subscribe today. And don't miss my world with jeff here tuesdays on westwood one so i think the right thing was done there and i think ought to talk to rod back and i would try to convince him you know. Hey man you know you gotta credible look your tailor made for this company shirley to god at some point they gotta do the right thing now when he first started as a baby face and he was doing the feed. Me more stuff right. You've got over. Yeah and he was selling some merch and they were chanting and again. It was one of those things that they put him out there. And i don't know if they plan on him getting over to the degree that he did if it if it was a heated issue with some of the other baby faces you know a lot of things go behind closed doors up there that you never hear about it. Never see you to see the whole focus of guys career change and you never know why you suspect but you'd never know for sure and it seemed like the more he got over the worst got form. The worst got used. It was just one of those things a bet. He's got a tremendous story detail. It's just one that i'm not up to speed on. But i know that. Every time. I worked with him. It wasn't a question of him out working hard. That wasn't an issue up. Next is one of the things people remember most about this show. It's a no contest with the match was really just stopped. Eight and simon. God's the vaudevillians are going to take on another tag team from inex- t big cast and enzo amaury. They are super over here but in the middle of the match. Something bad happens and enzo gets hurt. I was there that night and it looked like a scary situation. It was clearly not part of the story and when something like this happens. I'm just curious what you remember about this injury. What protocol was was.
"2016" Discussed on ARN
"Let's talk about one of the all time greats here blackjack mulligan he On fortunately passes away on april seventh at the young age of just seventy three years old. Of course we know Mike rotunda was a was a big star here for the company as irs. We also know that wind been taylor his grandson. So we know is brian. Bo dallas They're all big stars with the company as well and and their home From from the show when they get the news that high jackson trouble here are sure you have some blackjack memories you can share with us. He used to be an old running mate of your old partner. Rick flair would blackjack mulligan stories to have for us. Well i just you know again that that's a guy that's about a half. He's about a half of a. What's the word i'm looking for here. it came before me one generation right about a half a generation me and when i first started with ted allen who was trained to me and he was taking me to a couple of different places to judea to just basically get a batch. Get some experience and this was along the times that blackjack had knoxville. So that would've had to abandon eighty-one ish somewhere there. Kevin sullivan was there. And you know they had a little territory. Setup and ted got me book there we walked in and now i was still in wrestling fan stage. I'm wide eyed. I'm looking around jesus. Christ that's kevin sullivan. Jesus s blackjack. Mulligan forget he He had the biggest frigate forms i had ever seen. It was one of those things that just floored me. It just stood out now. He's a huge man. How tall would jakobsen six eight nine. Yeah i don't know. I've always thought he had to be greater than six seven but and he's a big fella. Yeah not a not a weightlifter. Top body just a like. I said big just a big forms big legs. Big body had that deep voice had add monster. Mostachi was gimmick. But you knew damn well. When he walked the hall you had a grown ass man coming down the hall. That's that's my only experience with him. I just probably sat there with my jaw on the floor. Just watching him walk around. You don't see guys at big every day. Let's run through a couple of other names that unfortunately Make the news one of which is balls. Mahoney i know you never actually worked match with balls or at least i don't think you did but certainly You are an agent when he was in for a cup of coffee with. Wcw interesting memories are stories of working with balls. Well i know balls were taylor walker and never think twice. He actually told a couple of us that he killed her shark with a plastic knife. Oh yeah took a while to absorb that one. Yeah but but swore by. He had a couple of famous stories. And i wish. I could. A- wish i could remember them that we're just so far fetched. That's the one. I'll never forget it's ingrained into the great one to my sister. Yeah yeah and. I guess i asked a couple of guys scott rail or say think. I'm stupid now me. Just tell a whopper. that's hilarious. That's one of them let's Let's talk about dr phil. He appears on an episode of raw. Continue the rick flair charlotte flare storyline. You any interactions. With dr phil. That's something that. Mrs aaron watches a lot around the house. I got if. I too had a few words with dr fail. He had had been on the couch. You're that was one of those things like you know when they had the celebrities there. If it was somebody i was a huge fan of you know we go. Thank him for being there and being on the show and all that trotta relaxed them a little bit. That's intimidating environment. You know first time you're around it or or even after the ten th time you've been around if you're not in the business or you are into business you got all these personalities walking around all these monsters all these big guys loud boisterous the whole thing and I didn't talk to that day You know that was mostly the writers deal with that kind of stuff when we have a celebrity. Come on the show. Let's talk about karl anderson and luke gallows They made quite the splash over. In new japan pro wrestling. they're going to debut on raw and attack the usos. What'd you think of them. As a tag team. Five years ago. I liked him immediately. I've always liked gallows. He's just he's one of those It has always smiling. And you know he just good to go with whatever you wanna do. And karl anderson jimmy anderson. I call them as a tremendous worker in those guys. You know a really good team. And i think the japan time really helped him. It got him in a position to be used really well when gallows left. Wwe he was not in the best position he's been in but you know it's a funny thing you go other places and make a name for yourself you come back. It's almost like you were never there And they had a hell of a ron over there. And i think they're still welcome anytime they want to go to japan so in allah they created a good spot for themselves over there. Some more sad news makes the The dirt sheet says it was. China passes away april twentieth. Just forty six years old. You weren't a part of the company ain't when she was rising to fame but i'm curious at any autograph signings things like that. Did you ever meet china or have interaction with her member matter. Can you believe that now. It feels like by now you would met everybody. Yeah well but again you gotta look at you know. It's like chapel canal. Never been in the ring together till we got two. Aew when you stayed with the company for a long long time for years and years and years like i did whoever was in that crew. If that crew stayed there that was the people that you knew a psycho was you know with wwe for fourteen months or whatever it was which was not very long and there were guys it you know that were there for years and years and years and we never kinda cross pass if you weren't in you know the crockett territory that crew that we had once it was established who your crew was that will soon as they're pretty much for.
"2016" Discussed on ARN
"Enforcer himself aren't anderson aren't how are you man. It's springtime yes. It is baseball season. I like that braves. Fan gotta be so things are looking up. Thanks looking good. Come on here with you unless yuck it up for a while and Let's just add to that good feeling. I love springtime attitude except for some of my friends really suffer from allergies. This time of year. It starts to kick my butt for about a week in september. But i don't have any issues in the springtime. How about you. You big allergy guy. You know aaron had it for a while and Occasionally i just get a little bit of the post nasal drip is but don't suffer. I know people that do suffer with it and it's a pain. Yes back in the eighty s a lot of the boys back in the territory days. They had a post nasal drip. Let's talk about while we're here today it's Payback thousand sixteen heels of wrestlemainia. Thirty two. I had the good fortune of actually being at this show in chicago. I'm pretty excited to To catch up with you about a here today. The raw and smackdown after wrestlemainia are always the biggest shows of the year for those television programs. And we had a ton of new inex- t talents debut. Apollo crews and zone cass and the vaudevillians The vaudevillians is definitely an interesting experiment. If you will as far as character development what'd you think of their presentation. I mean clearly. It worked for inex- t did you have reservations of how it would work on the main roster how the fans would perceive them on tv or if even the office knew what to do with them. Amar giving him honest from my recollection I don't think they had enough. Tv time to do enough character stuff for people to understand what they were trying to do. Yeah that's fair. that's my. That's my recollection. And you know we're our trying to help them and asking them who that guy was and who they were and who they saw. Those characters is being and tried to help them but we only got a couple of minutes. It's difficult and something that abstract. So that's what i think happened. The former omaha nation made a A name for himself dragging gate had quite the independent reputation and then Tore it up on inex- t for a few years and then when he's on the main roster the world gets to meet apollo crews and i think just now here in twenty twenty one. They're trying some different things with him. But i gotta tell you. When i first saw apollo crews i thought well this is can't miss. What was your initial impression absolutely Number one gentleman nice nice kid number two looks like a million dollars can do a lot of great stuff. Perfect employee always on time always smiling but he did some some athletically. Some incredible stuff But you can't again. We're back to that deal. You have to let the audience know their comment. That is one thing that that we used to do. As a business we used to have some millions before guy got there and you were looking forward to seeing them and then put a rocket on his ass and man let him go as far as he can go the other talents that we've talked about before here on the show in. Oh and cass. And they're going to get over like nobody's business on the main roster The promo work and just the whole presentation reminded a lot of people. Probably the new age outlaws just in terms of the big rap on their way to the ring We know that Enzo is going to ultimately wind up. Leaving the company as does cass. Just this calendar year cash showed back up looking in better shape than ever on some independent states What did you think of the initial presentation of end zone. Cast and how quickly the audience took to their wrap so to speak all those different. And i worked you know because it was such a you know. A cadence laden promo and involved ended invited the audience to channel along with them. And that's always a good thing for television Cazes a big guy. He was tall oil and water as far as their presentation but when they did the promo and it all came together all jailed. Let's talk about some other news and notes as we head in here. We mentioned this briefly recovered wrestlemania thirty two. Ms would beat zack. Ryder just one. Day after his big wrestlemainia intercontinental title. Win why do you think the wwe seemingly struggles to get baby faces over. Is it just fundamentally the the folks who are making the decisions. Just they're just love heat. I don't understand it. Feels like zack. Ryder had such a feel good moment. One stretch it out a little bit and give it some legs but as you like to say we cut his water off twenty four hours later. Kasey candidate donors zone I don't think he was the original guy that was supposed to win that match but you don't. He went out and he got over. He did the social media stuff like was instructed. He reached for the rash rain. He looked like a million bucks. He was always there working his ass off and the guy was a good worker. And so on that platform to win a big batch wrestlemainia. Almost everybody in that locker room was pulled for any should. Have you know like we've talked about before he should have been least had a month. Ron give a guy at least a month of good. Tv's forego tv's that's a lot of good tv these days it is and it never got a chance. It looked like a fluke. It looked like it should have never happen in a put him right back in the musician that he was. And before he won grownup syria was one of the best parts of.
"2016" Discussed on ARN
"A portion of it. We go to a local restaurant like a small independent restaurant we had them catering and we feed the whole hospital all the doctors all the nurses everybody. That's in that hospital and they do it safely individual stuff like thanksgiving. We did it. We did a christmas. We did it. New year's we're going to ballantine's day And then we do it every week. In addition he'll be especially the holidays for valentine's day. We have heart shaped pizzas that we had made all. The hospitals are getting heart-shaped pizzas. They're getting heart-shaped cakes all kinds of heart shapes at to go with it. You know all individuals so all safe that type of thing so every it's a four way win. Somebody orders a gift for their loved. One tweet heart for girlfriend their bothered the door. Whoever it is on. I hate stephen singer. Dot com. whatever it is they get the gift Does to get the pleasure of getting to give money to charity. Then the person gets a great gift and then they get an email. This part of this went to feed this hospital. Shows you all the pictures they could put on the pictures all the different hospitals all over the country and all the different restaurants and anybody that wants to like if you have somebody in your circle of friends or family that works in a hospital. Or i hope you don't have somebody that's in the hospital. We'll we'll steer towards them because we want to do where we have relationships. We've done it in texas in colorado in california's in utah. We've done it in louisiana All over the country just everywhere everywhere. You kinda indianapolis we just. We just did one in california and So we'll go to local restaurant. We get whatever their specialty is getting. Catered you know what i mean and then we send it over to the hospital feed the hospital give n day. I just get hundreds of texts and thank yous in and cards and calls and the people you know they need. They need to say thank you and they need that. Hope you know what i mean. And when they're sure to the ppp at p p equipment and they're short at it's difficult to do all these things than they you know you and i you know you're in the fund business your business and finding you give people joy. I'm in the love business. You know what i mean they get. Nobody comes to me gets a ring. 'cause you know grandma died every comes to me because it's it's they're getting engage bound times day. It's christmas. I'm only dealing with funds right. He's hospitals you know mean. Many patients do very well and they give their heart and soul but sometimes they don't do well and it takes an emotional toll on them so it's been so rewarding we. It only planned doing it for a couple of months. We're doing it now all year and we're gonna do it until viruses over all twenty twenty one. I hope it's over a month but if it takes all the rest of this year but take part in the following year every week. We're going to go around and do Hospitals all over the country. We want to try to get to every state and where the need is the most so you can get a great as you mentioned. We have a new rose. This year for valentine's eshkol called twinkle. Twinkle righty re below. It's the color of the night sky. This is the way. I describe it when the stars start to come out and this deep navy blue and it has a little sparkles in it. It looks like the night sky sparkling. It's very very popular matter of fact I hope not but by the time you're you're fans everybody here that we may be sold out because there are some unbelievably and as you know we have a whole collection we have about sixty different colors and every year we come out with a new Premium color for valentine's day for the collectors but We also have these in twenty four carat yellow gold. We have in platinum which is a metal and we have in rose gold which is pink color so now people can collect them and we have a display. That goes with it. So you get a dozen display in every year. Just put another rosen there till you build this beautiful big bouquet. And they're all off. You want to see what they look like you can go online to. I hate stephen singer. Dot com or steven singer jewelers dot com or our youtube channel or facebook. And you could see how the put together what that looks like. And as you know the great thing is because you and i are the same guys are stupid and always do late and the always do it raw for fifty nine dollars starting fifty nine bucks. You gotta give that lasts forever. You know. it's not like our great. I'm not saying no but a week later. Ten days later during the trash you know this for the same money you have it last forever and It's just been one of the one of the great things and we have a lot of great jewelry. We have a thing called the star love which is an eight pointed star with a heart cut out of one hundred twenty eight bucks real diamonds precious metal deliveries free gift. Packagings free Personal love no from you free. Everything's included. There's no gotcha. So there's no add-on there's no secret codes. There's no sales were very transparent everything we're like you you tell everybody the truth whether they want to hear it or not your opinion you wanna hear and your guests come on you. Expect them to be honest and transparent. So what what's going on and it's one of the reasons. I think you're successful. I'd like to say that we are the jewelry version of conrad. Your work as hard as you. I don't have as many many on that work as many hours as you. Yes that's what we got going on and you're mean all your friends and are just killing it. I mean we get so many great so much feedback from all wrestling bands all over the country. And it's just it's just. There's not a day that goes by. I don't hear you're a in some positive aspects Something's going on. Oh man that makes my day are saying that one more.
"2016" Discussed on ARN
"Talking with all all those guys out there followed by two minute match with no story really right. Yep so the got attack. Whatever time that was. If you look into that that it was you know there was no story with our troops and bill us and all that stuff you know. It's just what was just to get him on tv. Sure if you add that. Tom into the all the talking stone on the promo saying but that's a large chunk of time for nothing really that was built in the show. Why if you were in good charlotte brady and that spot right now. You have a totally different match. During the main area it's still recalling storytelling somebody on investment than you get a claim famish. Everybody happy now. You can take a pause. okay now. easy fix fixed. Well i hope that our ad fixes next week. We're throwing you guys the key to the show it's going to be hashtag. Ask aren't anything. Of course we're gonna continue our march to wrestlemainia and will continue to examine the rest of two thousand sixteen. Probably going to take a look at a lot of two thousand eleven stuff this year as well but in between tom we're going to have lots of bonus content and add free shows dot com as a reminder. You can get all of these shows early in ad free including the video over an ad free shows dot com case you to see in and i don't know why would but it's there And as we said every other week it's hashtag ask aren't anything if you have a question for aren. Go ask it right now on twitter. It's at the orange show and you can ask. Aren't pretty much anything you'd like. We've had discussions about cheeseburgers. And the best way to drink a beer and your favourite bob armstrong memory and everything in between is no holds barred here every other week. Hashtag ask aren't anything and you can ask you a question right now at the orange show on twitter until next week i am. Hey it's conrad. He is at the orange show and we are out of time. We'll see right here for hashtag ask. Aren't anything on arn aa zone. Ac- now baby at told people our break arms break legs do whatever i had to for people at stuck their nose in horn but toot toot big time. If you know what. I'm saying own All right now for something a little different. You're all familiar by now with the most hated jeweler in america But that's a bit of a rib. We say in the wrestling business. Because stephen singer is with us envoy stephen we need some good news and you have some great news about what you guys are doing over at. I hate stephen. Singer dot com. We do first of all. Thanks for having me. It's great to see you even if we have to do it via skype. I wish i was there with you in person. And i can't wait til this stupid viruses done. Ought to be space suits. And i could hang out with. You could have some fun. I have to tell you before we start. You've made me into a hero because my nephew and all his friends. When i told him what i'm doing today who i'm talking to. They are unbelievable giant wrestling fan. You're gonna talk to him. And i said yes. I became before. I was a loser by with. These guys are way up there now. You don't need me with that. And i showed him some of the pictures and memorabilia and different things and man. Oh man. I became a hero overnight. It was just like i'm climbing ring with this. I thank you for that. No man thank you. Listen i wanna thank you. Because i get tagged in tweets every day with listeners. Who took advantage of your new roads this year which is a bit of a valentine's day tradition. And you've got some really cool stuff coming up for mother's day but really what you're doing to give back right now and we're all in uncharted territory with this virus. It's pretty phenomenal. And and i'm glad we get to talk about that today. Tell everybody what you're doing a thank you so much for that. Well this actually happened as an accident and last march when they first shut down the country because of this virus and the coronavirus and nobody really knows going off. We decided that we were going to take all of our sales from march through. May mother's day and we are going to take a portion of it and go to local restaurants and local hospitals in our backyard. Which in this case is philly. new york. New jersey harrisburg washington. Baltimore like the kind of regional area and Try to reward these frontline heroes. You know the doctors nurses technicians People people that william that you everybody that works in the hospital. Let's go into this and date. They're going wearing all mess up and they're wearing all kinds of stop to do it and they're like are police running into it. You know what i mean and everybody else is trying to stay home and stay away from everybody. So we go to these local restaurants Somebody wants to gift from us. We take a portion that you don't have to do a thing automatic every single thing that anybody buys whether it's a fifty thousand dollar got diamond engagement ring. A fifty dollar rose. One hundred dollars doesn't matter what it is..
"2016" Discussed on ARN
"In the background. So now we know who are wrestlemainia. Made in is it's roman reigns challenge roman reigns challenging the wb champion hunter. Hearst helmsley triple h in the main event. What did you think this match man. They pulled out all the stops crazy bumps and stuff. I didn't think we would see lessner do but he did. But he didn't take the pin Old pow dean ambrose did. What'd you think. Well i think a little bit predictable. Richard bain in the process of that. If you look at the character in ambrose right now that god manifested himself during that match. It was a guy that was great. It was good as haircut off of skill. Saw who's hand back on and get back on the fights. You know these are tough rugged wall street down. You're not going to get him to quit. Character naturally is now. That's where successors now exempt predictable. You don't know what he's gonna do next. You don't know what he's other character building their listeners. Leser he is that guy that that you buy tickets to see these humor machine and You know the sad part is roman was just stuck in that and that quagmire of being sheriff too hard push too hard all mistakes near he was viewed as making which were not his fault from rotten promos sufferin succotash. Oh yeah that would stand will live in infamy Lot of mistakes made push him roman too hard but at the end of the day i thought the audience gary now wait three way. Main event was signing violent grain store talents for it was three yards which is hard to do now. Think about it. If you've got three match normally it's two guys pounding on one right. There's like all three guys. Were fighting all unless the way you want trouble threat to go so danda the at the end of the nine hundred dumbed down. I think you know it's right. Hundred were already hunter. He's already established near the four eternity. i don't know if you had to have that at the end of it maybe could have. Just you know lifted on very notes but it was Point bent hunter was a baby sneering in that range because exact conic at this point yes. Let's talk about the card itself. You know it's weird to me that we talked about at the start of this show then only got fifty percent thumbs up when it came to the best match. Poll rains and ambrose in the main event got the most votes the second most votes was. Aj jerko the third. Most was owens and ziglar all excellent matches. The worst match overwhelmingly was curtis. Axel in our truth even though is just two minutes. And i'm i'm really shocked that it got mixed reviews. Meltzer says the show got mixed reviews about most of the matches were good but the period from after the ending of jericho styles until the main event there was a long segment including the new day edge and christian and the league of nations and the dreadful r truth curtis axel match and it took the showdown it's completely baffling the idea of the cool down. Before the main event the takes people out of the show ended to be so long and even needed to be there at all almost no other promotion whether it's an enemy or wrestling tanks. The period leading to the main event on this show. That moved a very good colegio del. Rio match two out of three falls to the pre show and then they put truth and exelon right before the main event the main event was fantastic and most matches were good. I would have expected more things to build a wrestlemainia but they save that until raw. And i think he's probably got a point. Just based on the way the the show structured the pre show match as we mentioned with callisto. Alberto del rio. Got three and a quarter stars. Becky and sasha's mascot two and a half owens and ziegler had home run effort at three and a quarter all the the six man's with all the beef we talked about was a three star match charlotte and bring it to three quarters. The crowd will super hot for it. Augean jericho had a four star match. Hurt us excellent art truth. Were sort of air got a dud rating but the main event man four and a half stars. There's a lot of really good wrestling on this but fans still seem to think it was a mixed bag. Only half thought it was a thumbs up. Show what do you make of that. Is it just the positioning world. There's a way to put a placeholder match rob before the main event. I don't say you.
"2016" Discussed on ARN
"I would have been very shocked. Band move you know to just to just turn. The happen would have shocked me. Because i know he that would have gotten that would have been. Viewed is just straight defying benches edict. And that never works. Yeah can't imagine something else that didn't work. It's an edge and christian segment with the new day. We're going to plug the new show on the ww network and they're basically going to run down the whole roster new day. Join on some of the fun to they're gonna make fun of the ascension the usos the dudley's and the league of booty Of course xavier woods says the league of nations were hot garbage. And of course they come out. So we've got three different factions here. Aggressive can't age and christian is one and edges even running down to areso saying. Hey i've been retired for five years and still done more than you have It's an interesting segment. I guess maybe teasing an edge return. Even though we didn't think at the time that was possible meltzer would be pretty critical of the segment saying there were some cool and funny lines here but the segment went too long. I know that there is a need for i. Guess what Bruce patent vince. Call a me up match. Maybe instead of programming a match to do that instead they do this comedy segment another wanna plug something on the network but meltzer thought it went a little long. What do you think about the segment and the placement of here on the show. Too busy trying to accomplish everything. Yeah people standing around to while wind guys talk energy. Gastric all in kind of standing around trillon thumbs or nothing to do you. Can you can expose. I think you have to expose your you know all your talent on. Tv they gotta get on the big shows occasioning but just a log jam of bunch of guys out there everybody. The audience feel that. That's exactly what was happening. There were getting traces on television exposure. And it was just too busy. I agree You know probably would work better on raw rather than here next up. It feels like filler match. It's only two minutes and seventeen seconds. Meltzer says even though it was short it still managed to be the worst on the card. her saxl pins are truth. In to seventeen all the social outcasts at ringside goldust comes out trips. Axel throws heath slater into the barricade and then throws adam rose into the ring that distracts r truth and actual pinson with a schoolboy holding the trunks and r truth is mad. That gold us. It's cost him. The match he gave it a dud rating. We haven't talked about curtis axel very much here on the show The son of mr perfect a lot of people assumed he was going to be one of the chosen ones especially when they did the stop. Start paul heyman. As his manager he has an intercontinental title. Ryan and people think he's going to do some big stuff. That doesn't quite happen. They tried again to do something with Social outcasts and they even had him and You know the whole mega-powers thing he did with damien sandow think got great reactions but they never really got a lot of momentum going again. Why do you think that is. I mean this is a guy who even when the rock was wanting to come back. He wanted to work with curtis axel to work off some ring rust so clearly his peers no love and respect him but it doesn't feel like management so much for him. What say you well that your work. Yeah under any circumstance work now. What sounds bigger you Or kirsch axe. I totally agree. i. I never understood that. Why not let a guy. And that's that's the problem and second generation bastards. You have dad or grandad for that matter. Yours turn generation and they have all achieved great things others want wanna build on that day one walking out to all at the gate and gentlemen and mr perfect and that's her years they want you. Don't try to tell them he. Somebody else will different name. And that whole flimsy of well he's never going to be as good as so which gonna hurt him while sheer. If you know your dad you know it's like if my dad was john wayne man and i'm walking in a cowboy movie. I'm going to get some intersperses. If i'm plus one of the the cowboys it got shot off the ruse last week behind. Let's say my dad john wayne. I'm really cowboy movie. Listen how i do have a lot more over. Jumpstart have more address for her more. Anything i think that was one of the mistakes have talent and egypt's but when you star arm someone else and you're always gonna whole and you you let aiming him for what was had to be very short. I'm right yeah just hit in the audience mind well. Heyman gave up on gama star. Have all the things. Looks like downton. You have to bring him in. When you have new talent you have to bring them in. And editors some stars if the company doesn't get him like their store should not look out for star. And i think that's the biggest mistake that was made for gerald. Let's talk a little bit about the other social outcasts specifically. I want to talk about bo. Dallas we know you're tight with heath slater and we're glad to hear that he's an impact and hopefully he's all healed up and back in action real real soon. Adam rose is going another way. It looks like a totally different individual but bo dallas given his relationship with you know the office through his through his dad being an agent and his brother being one of the tippy top guys and he was originally the guy in the family. He got the big push then. Inex- t. I was so shocked to see that they didn't do more with bow. Did bogue a fair shake. It's it's hard for me to really understand what happened with bowe. That and that they put.
"2016" Discussed on ARN
"Are buddy rather than a match. Something happen every single time matter. Who else was it was just bad good. So you had a nice scarce and characters but they all had the same. Gimme sermon gimmicks. So you know it was probably one of those big. I imagine a apparently it went. Okay certainly a lot of them to be in one match. Choose better where you have a monster of weird moral so you have that job conflict. You have that different. I think you know. I'm just sure here. You know rather those names back through ahead amount of been the dampers conglomeration of monsters ever in a match. Yeah it's pretty remarkable when you think about that. How much talent is here of course Red beard i believe is still Working some independent shots here. They are bronze romans on the top of the mountain with. Wwe big shows enjoyed some success even on netflix's and making the occasional appearance canes the freaking mayor unfortunately we lost luke harper and ryback. Seems like he's training for a comeback. He got himself In a little bit of a dispute recently with mark henry. Where do you stand on ryback. He's a guy who was riddled with injuries. Took some time off now. He's rehabbing his body to come back. What do you think we'll we'll see from him in the future. Well yeah. I always have an opinion about people the way they treat. Yes you know. It doesn't matter what they've done unless some crime against nature children or women or something. That's unforgivable Always heard no issues a great working relationship with ryback and there were a lot of things that i would masan and explain to him in advance you know streaming about what they were going to do with him a let me say this was point when the feed me more star started right away and they first started pushing them pretty good. Yeah you know. He was pretty hot at one time. Again here's that line. They cut his water off. And i don't know why but it was so sudden searcher searches tarn. It just makes you wonder you know there was a conversation somewhere that i was a privy to somewhere picked up some heat with the wrong guy. That's the only thing. I could happen because i was so in march. Look like a million dollars. He was getting over. Which is what you want any had that love. The fans loves so i couldn't figure out what the negatives war but i never had an issue with work at all matches ray they He was always very very toward with. Don't know abounded arguments lately. I'll try to get involved too deeply and what i read and believing you know by half of what i hear about. Maybe not even that you know. It's just short of here. The heck also light bulbs guys if he's getting ready back for another run. We'll see our goes. It's gonna be interesting. Because i think he's got people fired up on social media and That's part of the trick. Here's you gotta make people love or hate you and we'll see what's next for him. Maybe he's smarter than we all think. Well i mean. I have talked to him but it does feel like if you're trying to make a big splash and you're healthy and if you've been following a social media post certainly looks like he's ready for prime time and now the southern. There's a controversy. It's like okay. Well let's see what happens Let's talk about the next match here. This is the last davis title match on pay per view. Of course they're going to award the winner at wrestlemainia. The new women's championship i guess. Technically the divas titles on the line wrestlemainia. What i'm talking about here we go it's charlotte and brie bella. Plenty of time here. Twelve minutes and twenty six seconds and one point brie bella is gonna mock charlotte by doing the There's a funny story there. As when reid flair was in high school. He lost a match and the kid who beat him. Did the strut read then attack. The kid and there was a big time. Seen charlotte was cut on her nose. She put bella in a triangle. Camp slamming on the mat breed. Did the nikki. Bella forearm for a near fall finish. Aubrey hit the missile dropkick and she started selling her left leg. She used daniel bryan kicks. And it should be noted. She was wearing the stuff that brian more on his boots and the crowd was super into that last few minutes. Although it was rough charlotte try to figure four but bella reversed it into the yes. Lock half crab. The crowd was at this point and the hottest. It'd been the entire show. The story is that because of her earlier leg injury. She couldn't put all the pressure on the half crab. Charlotte kicks out and bellas neck is card on the ropes. Charlotte then uses the figure for the submission to three quarter stars. Pretty remarkable that the biggest reaction at this point is the ladies and it shows you that. The fans really are ready for this women's revolution. We just talked about how hot they were for. Kevin owens and dolph ziggler but meltzer thought. They were even hotter for this. You and i have gushed over nikki. Bella here on the show about how. She was underrated and a gray in ring performer. But now saying sister. Bree in there what did you think of this match with charlotte and breezy and how hot the crowd was for it. Well br break was to. You know. I think those girls were underrated..
"2016" Discussed on ARN
"Forward slash. Orne the The next match is for the intercontinental championship. It's kevin owens and dolph ziggler two of our favorites here on the show. Kevin owens is going to retain and fifteen minutes and ten seconds. Meltzer would say sigler braided his his hair to look like. You're i favor in a fight. The crowd was real for. This ziglar is from cleveland. But they're hot for owens. Owens made constant smart s comments during the match including telling ziggler that he was more popular than ziglar even in his hometown. Ziglar took a really hard. Whip into the turnbuckle. Owens is going to use a fisherman buster off the middle rope for a near fall both use some super kicks back and forth and the finished solid siegler mississippi. Kick and owens get the win with power bomb three and a quarter stars. I love these two performers. I don't think dos even capable of having a bad match. I think people sometimes sleep on. Kevin owens as a talent and i thought this was fantastic and the crowd really made it for me. What do you think yeah. I'm as the crowd was great. Fourteen thousand people in cleveland. Stay on good. That's a lot of folks Dossier as tomorrow knowledge ever never at a bad match and the other day it was on had a bad batch. I do think that this was a period. Were kevin dawn the creighton up. Sure or kevin owens and not been pulled up that long to the main roster adding you know from member banks conrad yeah. He came up in two thousand fifteen so the year prior. So he's here. I know about a year now. Okay at msn from day one when he debuted against cena in all he shouldn't have won that match and he should have been used as a baby faced for costs from day. One and i'm sure through this this match people were they just like having all yesterday did some praise and stuff and he did and he did some storm. Teddy polish shirt been able to do. He's the bumblebee of the business. You know bubble beach or not be able to fly as fast as they do. Maneuvers good as But he does he pulls off some unique stuff is very creative and he was regarded in mama and what i saw every huggies no matter what you did with him. He was matrix and dolph that being his hometown. All those things kind of worked against in germany little bit if you look at it from that slant but screen. Our audience are going like who they like. Cheer for who they want. Your or doesn't matter who's hometown is doesn't matter who's good guys perceived. Be in the back. That's and i'm sure which mattered more than anything is getting the haunt answering solid big time entertaining match and The champion one. I'll take the ready. Mistakes made during match mixed up a six man tag. Heuer talk about a cast of characters. Check this out on one side. it's big show teaming with kane and ryback lot of beef and across the ring. Luke harper eric ruin and braun. Strowman go ten and a half minutes. Meltzer would say the match was better than expected and he would write j. Compared strom to bill caz meyer and jeep swinson. I can see the swinson comparison. But it's not flattering because cass. Marin swinson. were two of the worst pro wrestlers ever then again the finished saw. Show throw stroman out of the ring and then pick harper up and throw him over the top rope on at rohan. Stroman show gave stroman a great spirit on the floor while in the ring. Ryback pinned harper after the shellshock. Three stars man. I'm kind of legitimately shocked when this happened at the time that the wyatt family lost. Obviously ryback was super hot a few years prior to this i guess back in twenty twelve but it just felt like they were setting this up for sure. The uae family's gonna win but it doesn't happen. What did you think of the match and resupplies. The whites didn't go over. I got a lot of big. Come here a lot of dude in there when you were running down those names. I don't think you know as long as it was done properly. An inch guy which featured properly during that match. I don't think there was a mistake as far who won. Gosh i mean there's no rights under watch us for sure and you know two years. Granite ron showman is a guy that got better and better and better you know as he went along. Piazza matches you know. Single matches were roman reigns. There were just incredible and for years. He was not just a big guy. You know was just the guy that was a former weightlifter. Whatever yes maps spears Big show resolve as a guy you he was a real johns and you know. When he came in healthy he would give you things. You couldn't believe guys house too. And i'm always been a big fan friend. Big shows in He a break career. I don't think people appreciate into the guy that size and the things he did for other talent. Get them over You know ryback shirt is so small guy. Rolling recalled him buddy. He was frightening. He may be nervous this being their home and then of course there.
"2016" Discussed on ARN
"Plus a little note from the observer about autograph. Signings really caught me off guard. He says a note on. Wb talent when it comes to autograph. Signings is that they are not allowed to do signings if there's a ring up for third parties or at least that's the general rule for instance shawn michaels who comes at a very high price can still sign in conjunction with an indie show. But he can't be there once. The ring is put up or be there when the show takes place. I'm fascinated by this. You doing signings at this time. Was this a real rule. Never heard that seems weird. Wwe contract talent were allowed to do anything right. I'll let w w e booked and booked it. It was never be an independent sheriff jerry. I can't imagine that don't they. That's a real sight. Let's get to the show itself. Twenty 2016 was a mixed bag man and only got fifty point seven percent thumbs up in the observer from the readers there twenty four point nine percent give it a thumbs down and twenty four point. Four percent gave it thumbs in the middle You watch the show for the first time in five years. What did you think thumbs up thumbs. Down thumbs in the middle like we. We're jamming stuff together. You know trying to get a to in a number time you rate. It just always felt like to me. It was just crammed in just stand. If you've got a big show. I love that one pay per view every for watch a man build it huge. And if you tell about the numbers those four shows backward business with really thanks for to win right and then you told you know those years where we had. Let's just say we had fourteen papers. And i'm sure it all some years. We did you total up to the same two numbers. They probably were that far apart. And just imagine all a the expenses that you to all those extra. Pay us at all the sets trans all plane tickets all a hotel rooms. All those things that you will pay in for the were added experience. You know it just seemed like to me you were just. That's one bayview. Once you have the rumble fashioning veasley went away and it wouldn of pissed. Anybody let's talk about the first match year. We've got calista winning a two. Three falls match from alberto del. Rio and fifteen minutes and fourteen seconds so police retains as us title. It gets three and a quarter stars. Listen i love the idea of starting any pay per view with calista That's going to guarantee a hot start to your show but two out of three falls. I don't know that would have thought that would have opened a show. But i really dug this I know diarrhea has been a controversial figure. But i thought this was a good match here. What'd you think. Well alberto could work that style. And he was bigger and he was the. He'll you know things are in place. You have championed baby. Which was still and people did like him. I think starting to show two out of three falls. That feels to me a bit much. That would have been served little later in the garden. Maybe third only car something like that always like open up a big show with couple stars. Good solid twelve minutes so not too long. But it's It's long enough. You sinking teeth into it. You know falls might not see at right there but as far as the two guys working together. They could work that michigan saw. Which will you know had a certain appeal or like the european style all of that stuff but it was a very exciting way to flip flop and fly. The audience often by the next match is all about the women's revolution. We've got becky lynch teaming with sasha banks to take on tomato in omi Becky and sasha get in nine minutes and forty one seconds. The story line here is lynch and banks or sort of teasing that they're not getting along Meltzer would say some of the stuff was sloppy and he gave it two and a half stars. Ultimately lynch uses the disarmer on naomi and banks uses the bank statement onto meena. It's a double submission still the coming out party for becky lynch and and sasha showing what she can do Phil bad for naomi. Here i think sometimes she gets overlooked in this women's revolution and you not having ever really spent any time talking about two main. What'd you think of the match. And what can you tell us about. Tomato tomato is very fiscal and cheers are very solid. Performer I think she knew more rain tom. Naomi went through spurts Winch really improved. I would you know. I don't know if i was being the other town or whatever but there would be a couple of two or three week periods. Maybe i hadn't seen me improvement. She was making burt. She went through some really really good learning curves during this time. But still you gotta look at Back inside there. Were two ones you know to this day. Just very special they will. They always belonged in this business. I think it was just a question of of The other two were a more polished team. They were used to working together more. I think dang only were still green..
"2016" Discussed on The Field
"Let's the person's say what he has to say and it is usually we so evident that the person has to say is racist or anti-semitic debt to actually get in the way and say it yourself as less powerful the one thing I will do. Ah pull a little bit of rank is a black. I grew up in the south in the nineteen sixties. Who has been actually literally called some of the names the most powerful way to show these things is to actually just show them the best piece of writing? I've read about a racist community was Joseph Lally. Ali veld's portrait of Philadelphia Mississippi in the nineteen sixties says your predecessor remind your mentor and Predecessor and Mentor and the story about Philadelphia Mississippi sippy. He begins with a guy on the front porch. Essentially saying this is all bull. We're not racist here in Philadelphia Mississippi. An old black guy walks by and he calls him boy if that story led with Philadelphia. Mississippi is filled with racist. I wouldn't read the second paragraph It wouldn't be remembering. I wouldn't be remembered. It was letting people talk showing what they had to say. And you put that paper down said man that is a portrait of racist community and to me that is just more powerful. Maybe just answered this. But how do you cover the reality of our president and the Republican Party who support them. Repeatedly acting deceptively blink. Some people might call lying spreading disinformation without appearing to ignore or disparage the very voters who embraced him in two thousand sixteen continued to embrace them. Now suggesting that we have picked a side. Yeah this is hard. I will acknowledge this is hard first off you. report the heck out of what they say and when they say something that's false. I mean we've done two or three reconstructs of what happened with the US attack on the Iranian general liberal that shows that some of the descriptions were false. That's reporting that's not like labeling and cheap analysis that's deep reporting lottery reporters yes. That's my answer to how we cover down trump let somebody else call it a lie that somebody else call it a life. The world today is filled with pundits. The world today is filled filled with people who can use labels the world today has very few institutions that can go out and do the reporting independently powerfully. And that's what I WANNA do. And and in terms of his voters I think you show up. There's nothing more powerful to convince somebody that you WANNA listen than showing up you. Don't we'll do the cliche diner stories but you talk to him. You understand their worldy. Listen empathetical that does not mean giving voice to racist. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the big unanswered question of two thousand sixteen for all of our handwriting and all the discussion is what it so many millions of Americans though. Oh for this very unusual candidate. I don't think anybody has fully answered it and I think one of our goals should be to come as close as we can. It occurs to me that getting thing the coverage right on these questions we've been talking about both sides them. How much to emphasize cultural issues feels especially critical? This time because of the impact at the two thousand sixteen had on voters that in having a significant portion of the electorate share the assumptions of the media. That we've been talking about the Clinton would win and Sanders and trump wouldn't that when that all flipped on its head yeah. The electric was left feeling like they didn't really understand and maybe still don't understand. Yeah what made for a winning candidate by the way as a country. We don't fully understand right. So do we recognize in light of what happened. Twenty sixteen about about the way assumptions kind of course through our vans influenced our coverage that we now have an electorate that is trying to sort through the results of that. I'm trying to make sense of it. And does not create a special obligation to get it as right as possible to show a certain amount of restraint. OAC show tremendous decima care and nuance yes. I think there's a particular obligation we have to not jump to conclusions to not make people inevitable and to hold back and war against the assumptions of the political class right the political class that said trump trump couldn't win and Hillary Clinton couldn't beat. Yes I think. We have an obligation to guard against drawing those conclusions too quickly. I do think I think we have to keep reminding ourselves that would happen. In two thousand sixteen was remarkable a remarkable upset and moment but yes I think we have an obligation not to jump conclusions and not to declare anybody inevitable.
"2016" Discussed on The Field
"Far and and making her seem inevitable Google Bernie Sanders was a guy from small state who was a democratic socialist. Which is not a perspective that Americans have been known to embrace race? I actually think it would have been sort of weird to not pull up and say This guy's a long shot. I do think we have an obligation and I think we met with this story because we also told you what he stood for right. That's the main thing you can decide whether you want him to be a long shot. Think we have an obligation to pull back in the moment and say here's our best sussing out of where we think this person staying right and I think that was the accurate breaks you're saying understanding contemporaneous understandings are by hi definition of family. Yes the train but were choice and language are enduring writer and so couldn't we have used. Language like Clinton has significant financial financial and political advantages. They might be hard to overcome rather than you know a long shot. Yeah see I think I I mean I guess I think the exercise of is I'll go back to what I said about. Journalism is imperfect you know political reporting probably more than any other kind of reporting to be honest because because of the nature of the ups and downs. The horse race is I suspect I would go back at every campaign and reedited a bunch of stories but I think we got to tell the readers leaders in the moment. How should we think about this? I think the reader picks up the New York Times and says Bernie Sanders. I've never heard of him. How should I think about him? And I think this capturing but if we can agree that the media's twenty sixteen coverage reflected something of an assumption that Clinton was more or less inevitable. I wonder what you think. The impact of that was. This is kind of a chicken and egg situation because I think part of what the Sanders campaign was so frustrated by an angry about is that they thought this coverage and the assumptions they reflected. We're not just annoying just frustrating. They thought that it had real world consequences insist in presenting his candidacy intentionally or not as less valid. The media perpetuated those assumptions. And help to make them a reality and if the New York Times I saw that sanders was a long shot of order might think that too if they thought Clinton was the likely nominee of voter might think that too yeah. We'll part of my response to that would be. We thought JEB. Bush was inevitable to two and he lasted fifteen minutes You're right about job. I was assigned to cover him. Yeah now we will just figured okay. This is going to be Bush versus Clinton this is going to be the old establishment establishment the power of a narrative. Yes you know here I can pull back per second. We probably should be very wary of language that seems to make. Somebody's run inevitable. Because I think what we learned in two thousand sixteen is that none of the inevitable candidates or inevitable we're inevitable right and some of the seemingly evitable candidates. I can go way back. I mean I can remember when the governor of Texas seemed like such a powerful candidate. I can't even remember his name. I can remember the year Rudy. Giuliani seemed like a front runner and was on the cover of Time magazine so we did learn something about inevitability which maybe that's not so inevitable. It finally occurred to me. You're talking about Rick Perry yes yes okay. So let's turn to the other side ride and the assumption. The media is accused of having made on the Republican. Yeah Ledger could you dean. Read this From our friend colleague Alex Burns in June of Twenty fifteen just like Donald trump the garrulous real estate developer whose name was adorned apartment buildings hotels trump brand neckties and trump. Brian stakes anounced on Tuesday his entry into the two thousand in sixteen presidential race brandishing his wealth and fame as chief qualifications in an improbable quest for the Republican nomination drop down three or for paragraphs it seems remote prospect that Republicans Stung in two thousand twelve by the character of their nominee. Mitt Romney is pampered and politically tone deaf. Financier would rebound by nominating real estate magnate who has published books with titles such as think like a billionaire and MIDAS touch. Why some entrepreneurs owners get rich? And why most don't but Mr Trump was never held elective office may not be so easily confined to the margins of the two thousand sixteen campaign thanks to his enormous media profile he stands a good chance of qualifying for nationally televised debates where his appetite for combat and skill at playing to the the gallery could make him a powerful disruptive presence. This is where there's an audio deficit because Dan you had a huge grin on your face while you were while you were reading the the first part of that story story. Yeah why oh because it's exactly what everybody thought at the time and you know I'm sitting here reading it while Donald Trump has been president in for three years and is in the middle of an impeachment trial Look nobody took Donald Trump seriously as a presidential candidate. I'll be the first to admit that that. Of course nobody thought by the way. I don't think he thought he was going to win the nomination or when the Presidency so you know look I mean that captures the moment the reality was. Donald trump was a long shot. I don't look back at that characterization. From June June two thousand fifteen and say was a mistake. Alex even opens the possibility that you would at least be a disruptive force. Do you think it's fair to say that like with Sanders. The media saw trump's candidacy as unlikely but unlike with Sanders there was a tremendous amount of attention paid to it not out of a belief the don on trump could win but more out of an interest in what I might call the kind of stunning on Orthodoxy of the candidacy. The ways in which it broke all of our understandings of the rules. Yeah I mean I can answer that from the humane answer that at about the media about the New York Times I think about the media writ large urge. Of course I think he was in resistible television candidate he was he was funny. He was charming. Do think the press and now I'm talking talking about the New York Times while we didn't think he could win. That did not keep us from can be frank putting a lot of energy gene to digging into him as a candidate and to me. That's the test right. We examined his real estate holdings extensively. We were the first to extensively. You're part of it. Actually to examine allegations of his mistreatment of women. We broke the story that he barely pay taxes. Says this didn't keep us from covering him aggressively we. We just didn't think he stood we. Just don't Jackie Goodwin right and we. We actually thought it was even less likely he would win. Because of the scrutiny was getting I remember sitting in the newsroom when and you know we had just written the stories you and Megan just written the stories about him and his treatment of women which was a an important and devastating Abbas stating at early story and then incomes the access. Hollywood tape and I remember thinking this is over. You know in my head I was already rearranging the the political coverage. He's out so that's honest. Yeah Oh no at the moment of access Hollywood tape I thought how could he win. How could he possibly? So that's about us not really understanding the voters so here is the I. I almost think that the sanders and trump coverage is all of a piece. I think that we and I don't think this is just the New York Times. But I'm going to wear the hat for the New York Times. I think that the combination of post economic crisis and a sense of the reports of America. They were still shaken by the economic crisis. I I think a lot of Americans more Americans than we understood at the time were rattled. And we're looking for something dramatic and that desire for something. Dramatic DOC was reflected in the rise of Bernie Sanders and it was certainly reflected in the rise of Donald Trump certainly reflected in the fact that Hillary Clinton came mm across rolled onto landscape as did Jeb Bush by the way as names that had been looming on the American political scene for what seemed like forever forever which fairly or unfairly made them seem like part of the elite. And I don't think we you know I don't think anybody quite got it. I wonder how much what you think. All of what we're talking about. The assumptions not understanding the voters. How much it has to do with our sources I know as a political reporter how much I used to call all figures within the party establishment operatives party leaders and those become important sources and I think about the party and the candidate and of course we know now that the democratic establishment clearly favored Clinton over sanders? He was an independent. Wasn't really a member of the Democrat Party and they didn't want him to win and we know that the Republican publican establishment was horrified at the idea of Donald Trump. From being there and looking back I think on some level we took the establishment as kind of have experts on their party's candidates kind of a barometer of the way people in the party fell when in fact they have their own motivations right and they weren't necessarily reflecting what voters wanted wanted in. Maybe the media allowed them to have outsized influence on the way we understood. What do you think of that? I think that's true coupled with we weren't out in the country enough MHM So there came a moment where I would say. That evidence on the ground started to contradict the assumption that we're talking about here on on both sides. Yeah that was. Once the voting actually got underway sanders. Overwhelmingly won New Hampshire by a margin. That really surprised US trump against sweeping the the primary when Hampshire South Carolina Nevada. Do you think the newsroom adequately responded to what was happening at that point on the ground Yes and no. Yes the newsroom. If we didn't take Donald Trump seriously as a candidate beforehand and dig into him as I recall. I had more people digging into him at that point you know. Suddenly he was a serious person. And my recollection. Is We turn up the volume on him considerably in digging into into his business dealings casinos losses his finances. So I do think we adjusted on him. Do I think we adjusted on Bernie Sanders. I mean. It certainly only felt at that moment. I don't remember specific. Certainly felt at that moment that both these guys were being taken more seriously. Yes I'm not pulling back from my idea. They didn't quite have a finger on the country but I do think we sort of treating them more seriously. Yes and you're leaving open the possibility that perhaps when it came to Bernie Sanders yes. We weren't as Nimble as we were with trump. Yeah I think that's probably true. I have to do a little bit but I think that's probably true. I mean I think we didn't. When we were writing about the Chinks in Hillary Clinton's armor which again the framing of yeah well the framing of by the way for the record that framing was right? She was the front runner..
"2016" Discussed on The Daily
"That. Premise us of sophisticated objectivity and independence. We should always debated and question but I think that that in my mind I think the reader who just wants to pick up his paper in the morning and know what the hell happened. I'm beholden to that reader and I feel obligated to tell at Rita what happened but where do you draw the line between picking aside and holding truth to power because at this point I think this is important. There's a well documented pattern of president trump some of his allies and supporters denying establish tax spreading misinformation embracing conspiracy theories and frankly and this is uncomfortable to say it was not easy to kind of embrace this reality over time as a reporter. It's against our nature. Many of them have a different relationship to the truth then the the crafts and the Democratic Party and do you think our journalism has sufficiently adjusted to that reality. And how central should that understanding that reality you too are twenty Twenty Cup I do. Actually I mean I just do you agree with that. Oh Do I do agree the pattern. Yes yes way. The truth is is being handled. Yes yes and if he gets blessed. The party's it's more Donald Trump. Donald trump has attacked all. Well he supported by the parties. But if you pulled but I think Republican senators out there saying what they're saying. Okay yes I'm climate change and but Donald trump is the stream version of that Donald. Donald Trump has made it his business to attack all of the independent arbiters of fact. And I think that you will find in the pages of the New York Times. Very powerful reporting that illustrates that what we haven't done which some people want us to do is to say repeatedly he's a liar. That's that's the language the word but the reporting is no question. We've done that or a racist. Yeah yes another thing that yes people have might be literally really asked you to do. Yes I mean. There was a big debate in our newsroom and outsider. Newsroom about whether the New York Times should use the word races and I accept disagreement. My view is the most powerful writing. Let's the person talk. Let's the person say what he has to say and it is. I usually so evident that what the person has to say as racist or anti Semitic that to actually get in the way and say it yourself is less powerful. The one thing I will do is pull a little bit. Rank is a black. I grew up in the south in the nineteen sixties who has been actually literally called some of the names. The most is powerful way to show. These things is to actually just show them the best piece of writing. I've read about a racist community. Was Joseph Lally veld's portrait of Philadelphia Mississippi in the nineteen sixties says her predecessor remind your Mentor predecessor and mentor and a story about Philadelphia. Although who Mississippi he begins with the guy on the Front Porch essentially saying this is all bull. We're not racist here in Philadelphia Mississippi and an old black guy walks by and he calls him boy. That story had led with Philadelphia. Mississippi is filled with racists. I wouldn't read the second paragraph. It was when and be remembering it and wouldn't be remembered it was letting people talk showing what they had to say. And you put that paper down and said man that is a portrait of racist community and to me that that is just more powerful. Maybe you just answered this but how do you cover the reality of our president and the Republican Party who supports them. Repeatedly acting acting deceptively. Some people might call spreading disinformation without appearing to ignore or disparage the very voters who embraced him in two thousand sixteen continued to embrace them now. suggesting that we have picked a side. Yeah this is hard. I will acknowledge this is hard first off you. report the heck out of what what they say and when they say something that's false. I mean we've done two or three reconstructs of would happen with the US attack on the Iranian in general that shows that some of the descriptions were false. That's reporting that's not like labeling cheap analysis that's deep reporting Lotte a lot of reporters. That's my answer to recover. Donald Trump. Let somebody else call it a lie but somebody else call it a live. The world today is filled with pundits. The world today is filled with people who can use labels the world today has very few institutions that can go out and do the reporting independently powerfully. And that's what I WANNA do. And then in terms of his voters I think you show up does nothing more powerful to convince somebody that you WANNA listen than showing you. Don't do the cliche diner stories. But you go talk to him. You understand their world. Listen and pathetically that does not mean giving voice to racist. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the big unanswered question of two thousand sixteen for all of our handwriting and all the discussion is what it. So many millions of Americans uh-huh though for this very unusual candidate. I don't think anybody has fully answered it. I think one of our goals should come close as we can. It occurs to me the getting the coverage right questions we've been talking about both sides them. How much to emphasize cultural issues feels especially critical this time because of the the impact the two thousand sixteen had on voters that in having a significant portion of the electorate share the assumptions of the media? That we've been talking about the Clinton would win Sanderson trump. Wouldn't that when that all flipped on. Its head yeah. The electric was left feeling like they didn't really understand. And maybe still don't understand stand. Yeah what made for winning Canada. Yeah by the way as a country we don't fully understand right. So do we recognize in light of what happened in two thousand sixteen. I mean about the way assumptions of course through our vans influenced our coverage that we now have an electorate that is trying to sort through the results. Zolt of that trying to make sense of it and does that create a special obligation to get it as right as possible to show a certain amount of restraint. OAC Show a tremendous amount of care and nuance. Yes I think there's a particular obligation we have to not jump to conclusions to not opt make people inevitable and to hold back and war against the assumptions of the political class. Right the political class. That said Ed trump couldn't win and Hillary Clinton couldn't be beat. Yes I think. We have an obligation to guard against drawing those conclusions too quickly. I do think we have to keep reminding ourselves that would happen. In two thousand sixteen was a remarkable. A remarkable upset moment but yes. I think we have an obligation not to jump to conclusions and not to declare anybody inevitable that on Monday we hear launching wanting a new show the field but is really about all of this the lessons of two thousand sixteen and each week. We're going to be going somewhere new in the country with a political reporter from the times and national abortion ties to talk to people and to listen to do it in your words pathetically and do our part to make sure that we are not guided by. That's great that's terrific that feels like an important contribution to not only our coverage coverage of American politics. It's great and if you haven't figured figured out yet you're kicking off that okay. Well that's an honor that we're having conversation half. I WanNa thank you very much. Thank you just for being here but for being here and being candid thank you thank you. Thanks for having.
"2016" Discussed on The Daily
"Could you dean. Read this from our colleague. Alex Burns in June of Twenty fifteen just to highlight the fourth. Donald trump the garrulous real estate estate developer whose name is adorned apartment buildings hotels trump brand neckties and trump brian stakes anounced on Tuesday his entry into the two thousand in sixteen presidential race brandishing his wealth and fame as chief qualifications in an improbable quest for the Republican nomination. Drop down three or four for paragraphs it seems a remote prospect that Republicans Stung in two thousand twelve the character of their nominee Mitt. Romney is a pampered and politically tone deaf. Financier would rebound by nominating real estate magnate who has published books with titles such as think like a billionaire and MIDAS touch. Why some entrepreneurs there's get rich and why most don't but Mr Trump was never held? Elective office may not be so easily confined to the margins of the two thousand sixteen campaign. Thanks thanks to his enormous media profile. He stands a good chance of qualifying for nationally televised debates where his appetite for combat and skill at playing to the gallery could make him a powerful disruptive presence. This is where there's an audio deficit because Dean you had a huge grin on your face while you were while you were reading the the first part of that story Roy. Yeah why. Oh because it's exactly what everybody thought at the time and you know I'm sitting here reading it well. Donald Trump has been president in for three years and is in the middle of an impeachment trial. look nobody took Donald Trump seriously as a presidential candidate. I'll be the first to admit that that. Of course nobody thought by the way. I don't think he thought he was going to win the nomination or when the Presidency so you know look I mean that captures the moment the reality was. Donald trump was a long shot. I don't look back at that characterization. From June June two thousand fifteen and say was a mistake. Alex even opens the possibility that you would at least be a disruptive force. Do you think it's fair to say that like with Sanders. The media saw trump's candidacy as unlikely but unlike with Sanders there was a tremendous amount of attention paid to it not out of a belief. The Don trump could win but more out of an interest in what I might call the kind of stunning unorthodoxy of the candidacy the ways in which it broke all of our understandings of the rules. Yeah I mean I can answer that from the I mean woman. Answer that about the media or about the New York Times I think about the media writ large urge. Of course I think he was resistible television candidate. He just was he was funny. He was charming. I do think the press and now I'm talking talking about the New York Times while we didn't think he could win. That did not keep us from can be frank putting a lot of energy into digging into him as a candidate and to me. That's the test right. We examined his real estate holdings extensively. We were the first to extensively. You're part of it. Actually actually to examine allegations of his mistreatment of women. We broke the story that he barely pay taxes. Says this didn't keep us from covering him aggressively we. I didn't think he stood we. Just don't Jackie Goodwin right and we. We actually thought it was even less likely he would win. Because of the scrutiny was getting I remember sitting in the newsroom when You know we had just written the stories. You and Megan just read the stories about him and his treatment of women which was an important and devastating misstating and early story and then incomes the access. Hollywood tape and I remember thinking this is over in my head. I was already rearranging the the political political coverage. He's out so that's honest. Yeah Oh no at the moment of access Hollywood tape I thought how could he win. How could he possibly? So that's about us not really villi understanding the voters. So here is the I. I almost think that the sanders and the trump coverage is all of a piece. I think that we and I don't think this is just the New York Times. But I'm going to wear the hat for the New York Times. I think that the combination of post economic crisis and a sense of the reports of America. They were still shaken by the economic crisis. I I think a lot of Americans more Americans than we understood at the time were rattled. And we're looking for something dramatic and that desire for something dramatic was reflected in the rise of Bernie Sanders and it was certainly reflected in the rise of Donald Trump certainly reflected in the fact that Hillary Clinton came across rolled onto the landscape as did Jeb Bush by the way as names that had been looming on the American political scene for what seemed like forever forever which fairly or unfairly made them seem like part of the elite. And I don't think we you know I don't think anybody quite got it. I wonder how much what you think. All of what we're talking about. The assumptions not understanding the voters. How much that has to do with our sources? I know as a political reporter how much I used to call all figures within the party establishment operatives party leaders and those become important sources and I think about the party and the candidate and of of course we know now that the democratic establishment clearly favored Clinton over sanders. Independent wasn't really a member of the Democrat Party and they didn't want him to win and we know that the Republican publican establishment was horrified at the idea of Donald Trump from being there now and looking back I think on some level. We took the establishment as experts on their party's candidates kind of a barometer of the way people in the party fell when in fact they have their own motivations right and they weren't necessarily reflecting what voters wanted right and maybe the media allowed them to have outsized influence on the way we understood tuition. What do you think of that? I think that's true coupled with we weren't out in the country enough MHM So there came a moment where I would say. That evidence on the ground started to contradict the assumption. We're talking about here. On on both sides yeah and that was once the voting actually got underway sanders. Overwhelmingly won New Hampshire by a margin. That really surprised us. Trump began sweeping the the primary one New Hampshire South Carolina and Nevada. Do you think that the newsroom adequately responded to what was happening at that point on the ground Yes and no yes the newsroom. If we didn't take Donald Trump seriously as a candidate beforehand dig into him. As I recall I had more people digging into him at that point you know. Suddenly he was a serious person. And my recollection is turn up the volume on him considerably in digging into into his business dealings casinos losses as finances. So I do think we adjusted on him. Do I think we adjusted on Bernie Sanders. I mean it certainly. I felt at that moment. I don't remember specific. Certainly felt at that moment that both these guys were being taken more seriously. Yes I'm not pulling back from my idea that we didn't quite have a finger on the country but I do think we started treating them more seriously. Yes and you're leaving open the possibility that perhaps when it came to Bernie Sanders yes. We weren't as Nimble as we were with trump. Yeah I think that's probably you have to do a little bit but I think that's probably true. I mean I think we didn't. When we were writing about the Chinks in Hillary Clinton's armor which again the framing of yeah well the framing of by the way for the record that framing was right? She was the front runner. She had all the money she had had the machine she ultimately won the nomination. She also won the popular vote so when Sanders rose it was because of two things. Obviously obviously right. The country was a little more radically inclined than we thought but it also meant bad. Hillary Clinton wasn't quite the perfect candidate. We've thought right so I do think we started looking harder at that moment. At the Chinks in her armor sure right. Is it fair to say we turn up the volume to use your Lord. Uncovering the candidates at this phase. Yeah but not the country the people voting for yes. We hadn't learned that lesson. Yes I think that's right. I think that's the biggest my biggest self-criticism self-criticism which is that. Of course we cover the country. You'll see voter stories but I don't think we quite of course we did not dig in and say why is this country pushing ahead with these two very unusual candidates donald trump and Bernie Sanders. And I'll quite understood that well so I've been speaking with some of our colleagues. This conversation anticipating it Serb. Tim Likely Names Reach uh-huh I know you're kidding. I am Kitty of course and one of the observations that some of them had is that stories about the voters and the country were being and as you suggest but they were not elevated. Yes in the same way that the candidate stories. That's absolutely correct. That's absolutely correct. That's the tangible evidence of what I what I'm mm conceding. What I'm saying there were reporters? This is this is not an I mean more. I said all all roads lead to the executive editor right now. They were reporters out in the country. Were writing stories about what was going on in the country. But we didn't elevate them and say wait a minute. There's something powerful going on. We didn't see that. So let's talk about the final assumption. Yeah what happens. Wants Clinton secures the Nomination Democratic nomination and trump gets the Republican mission. Which is the assumption that Clinton will win and she will likely win big here? Dean is where I wanNA reference not are writing but our podcasting. This also marks the moment where the Times created an audio audio department. Thank you yeah and I came on three months before the election to host a little podcast called the run-up and our first ever episode in August Two Thousand Sixteen was called old quote landslide. And let's just say that it was not about potential prospect of Donald trump landslide. Yeah.
"2016" Discussed on The Daily
"The daily studio. I believe this is your this is my first time here. Here's time here. Thank you thank you so deny actually WANNA start in kind of unexpected place with a hiring announcement that the times made a few two years back. So I'm GonNa ask you to read this email. I'm delighted to announce that amy chosen will be joining our political team team with a special focus reporting on Hillary Clinton and the Clinton family. Amy Is an unusually gifted reporter with unique ability to penetrate tight-lipped institutions and delivered dazzling in details from within she is relentless and not easily intimidated. Her coverage of News Corporation prompted Rupert Murdoch. To call her personally the debate the lead in one story. And I want you to do one more thing which is do me a favor and read the date on that announcement July second two thousand thirteen. Okay so what does that mean to you. I mean we have been criticized for assigning a reporter to Cover Hillary Clinton and the Clintons very early. Wait long before I knew I was up to of course and it's a look. It's a legitimate question. It really is legitimate question. Why because it's highly unusual for news organization too? I don't even think she had announced. At that point. It would be two years. Yes right announced. I think most people thought she would be a candidate ended it but she had not announced and get the criticism so so let me talk about it. A little bit The criticism is by focusing on her sorely. We were anointing her. The Democratic nominee that we were saying to the world. The New York Times looked at the field of possible candidates and thought Thought Hillary Clinton was the one that we should start covering two years for. She announces long before anybody else announces. And secondly we inevitably setting setting ourselves up to write harder stories about her even before she declared but mainly I think the criticism is we were saying to the world in New York Times Thinks Hillary Hillary Clinton is going to be the Democratic nominee right and probably the president created yeah of inevitabilities. That's right I you know I thought a lot. What about that decision? I mean I was the managing editor at the time but that means I hope run the newsroom. I actually don't think assigning somebody to her. That early was a mistake. Take the Clinton power structure. It represented a certain arm of the Democratic Party in repose and also it was inevitable notable that Hillary Clinton would be large player on the American stage for years to come see you. Don't you don't think it was a mistake to put a reporter on Hillary Clinton so early essentially which is a candidate. Waiting on the Clintons writ large what would be my case but I'm also conceding by the way that I sat down here with a pen and looked at stories. Take time I would edit more carefully to make sure that we did not give a sense of inevitability but I don't think it was a mistake. Do acknowledge that such a move move functions car. Psychologically a signal of yes. This is likely to be a front-runner this is likely to be a nominee this Leeson be first woman president and in fact by the way all that was true. She did become the front runner. She did become the nominee so I can make the argument in fact that it wasn't a crazy choice to select but I think we're GonNa talk about cause and of course I mean chicken and egg influence of course and you mentioned Dean that if you had the the opportunity Michael Back and re-edit a bit and we're going to give you a little bit of opportunity to do that here our during that so two years later in April of Two Thousand Fifteen Amy Jo Zach writes the story. Same Clinton is indeed running for President and she writes in the opening line. And I'm going to read this ending in two years of speculation and Koi denials. Hillary Clinton announced on Sunday that she would seek the presidency for a second time immediately establishing herself off as the likely twenty sixteen Democratic nominee. Now we're actually kind of saying thing in the story and it's interesting because I don't remember noticing anything about this at the time but now it really does kind of jump out to me that we are writing the day. She enters the race that she is the likely nominee. In retrospect I would I would we. Should we have written that a little bit differently. Yes of course it jumped right two-horse race and by the way I'm not blaming amy. Of course yeah. Look if I if I had to edit that story all over again I would have toned down the inevitability of of course yes I would have I would not make it seem like Hillary Clinton has announced. She's going to get it going a little bit of a tone that I would do differently. Sure so I wanNA compare the Clinton announcement to what happened when a challenger to Clinton enter the race that same month. And I'M GONNA ask you to redeem this story the highlighted portion that our colleague Ellen Rappaport Road. I can guess this one. This is the highlight of portion senator. Bernie Sanders Vermont. Independent announced Thursday that he was running for president as a Democrat injecting progressive voice wastes into the contest and providing Hillary Rodham Clinton with her first official rival for the party's nomination. Keep going yes. Please avoiding the fanfare that several Republicans have chosen so far when announcing their candidacies Mr Sanders issued a statement to supporters that laid out his goals reducing income inequality addressing climate climate change and scaling back. The influence of money in politics quote after year of travel discussion and dialogue. I decided to be a candidate for the Democratic nomination. The Nation President Mr Sanders said in an e mail early Thursday Mr Sanders bid is considered a long shot but unflinching commitment to stance as popular with the left such as opposing foreign military interventions and raining and big banks could force Mrs Clinton to address these issues more deeply. What do you think when I think that's a great lead you do yeah? I think that's a greatly. I think that captures what happened. It captures the role he played he did inject the progressive the voice. He did have a dramatic impact on the election. We quoted him We talked about the role he would play. We in four paragraphs read the whole story and we talked about the issues that he cared about. Most it feels to me a little less horse race and let me say emphasis on. Yes Oh yes. It does. The second paragraph doesn't say he's up he's down and I think this is a I think this is a if I'm reediting. I think the would change less. Okay I agree with you to a point but for me it's that final sentence Mr Sanders bid is considered a long shot. Yeah I'm linger under on that word launcher. But his unflinching commitment to stances proper with the left could force Mrs Clinton to address those issues that framing looking back now it feels also a little preemptive to call someone a long shot the day they entered the race. But I'm especially noticing that we care for his candidacy as kind of an I don't want to oversimplify. But as existing in in a way that would shape Hillary Clinton's criticism I think could naturally arise from that frustration and the sanders world that the media is characterizing. Him as this thing. That's going to needle her. This distant possibility that let's be honest doesn't really stand that much of a chance. Yeah and I feel a little embedded in their let me see two things first. He was a long shot. And here I can pull back and and just talking about journalism. Journalism is by its very nature is is flawed cleaning I WANNA say flat is also great. It's also for my money. The most beautifully designed way we have communication imaginable and nothing like it in the world but there are built in flaws. The flaws are you do have to tell people what to think mo most Americans had not heard of Bernie Sanders most Americans head Hurts Hillary Clinton and while I acknowledge that we went too far and and making her seem inevitable who Bernie Sanders was a guy from small state who was a democratic socialist. Which is not a perspective that Americans have been known to embrace race? I actually think it would have been sort of weird to not pull up and say This guy's a long shot. I do think we have an obligation and I think we met with this story because we also told you what he stood for right. That's the main thing and then you can decide whether you want him to be a long shot. Think we have an obligation to pull back in the moment and and say here's our best sussing out of where we think this person stay right and I think that was the accurate you're saying understanding contemporaneous understandings are by the definition of family. Yes but were choice and language are enduring writer and so couldn't we have used. Language like Clinton has significant financial financial and political advantages. They might be hard to overcome rather than you know a long shot. Yeah see I think I mean I guess I think the exercise of is. I'll go back to what I said about. Journalism is imperfect you know political reporting probably more than any other kind of reporting to be honest because because of the nature of the ups and downs a horse race is I suspect I would go back at every campaign and reedited a bunch of stories but I think we got to tell the readers jurors in the moment. How should we think about this? I think the reader picks up the New York Times and says Bernie Sanders. I've never heard of him. How should I I think about him and I think this capture but if we can agree that the media's twenty sixteen coverage reflected something of an assumption that Clinton was more or less inevitable? I wonder what you think. The impact of that was. This is kind of a chicken and egg situation because I think part of what the Sanders campaign was was so frustrated by an angry about is that they thought this coverage in the assumptions they reflected. We're not just annoying just frustrating. They thought that it had real world consequences the presenting his candidacy intentionally or not as less valid. The media perpetuated those assumptions and help to make them a reality and if the New York Times I thought that sanders was a long shot of might think that too if they thought Clinton was the likely nominee of voter might think that too. Yeah we'll part of my response to that would be. We thought JEB. Bush was inevitable to you and he lasted fifteen minutes You're right about job. I was assigned to cover him. Yeah now we will just figured okay. This is going to be Bush versus Clinton this is going to be the old establishment establishment the power of a narrative. Yes you know here I can pull back for second. We probably should be very wary of language that that seems to make. Somebody's run inevitable. Because I think what we learned in two thousand sixteen is that none of the inevitable candidates or inevitable we're inevitable right and some of the seemingly inevitable candidates. I can go way back. I mean I can remember when the governor of Texas seemed like such a powerful candidate i. I can't even remember his name. I can remember the year Rudy. Giuliani seemed like a front runner and was on the cover of Time magazine so we did learn something about inevitability which is maybe it's not so inevitable. It finally occurred to me. You're talking about Rick Perry. Yes yes okay. So let's turn to the other side. I'd and the assumption. The media is accused of having made on the Republican. Yeah.