35 Burst results for "2.5 Years"

GOP Senator Tim Scott Seeks to Block Controversial Proposed Bank Account Monitoring

Mike Gallagher Podcast

04:26 min | Last week

GOP Senator Tim Scott Seeks to Block Controversial Proposed Bank Account Monitoring

"I saw senator Tim Scott make a little speech about this woman that the Biden administration once confirmed as a top ranking Treasury Department official. And he just seems like he's in a state of shock. The left is trying to defend this doomed nominee and she better be doomed. You can not have somebody in charge of the purse strings who wants to blow up the banking industry. And wants to nationalize wants to federalize banking. Yeah, that's just what I want. The government calling all the shots with my checking account. They're nuts. They're purposefully picking people who are who are so radical and bizarre. I mean, Sean wants you to hear a little bit. We have senator Tim Scott queued up, right? I want you, this is four minutes. Like, it's like four and a half minutes. I want you to hear the whole thing. Because she was also convicted of shoplifting 25 years ago. Now, you could make the case 25 years ago is a long time. Incidentally, that's funny how the left and the woke crowd and all the crazed activists on social media don't seem to mind if it's 25 years ago if it's something they don't approve of. Then you better cancel somebody over what they did 25 years ago. But when it's a Biden nominee to do something like, oh, I don't know. Control the purse strings of America's monetary system well, that was a long time ago she should be forgiven. In fact, they say, those are personal attacks. You're attacking her. I mean, I don't even know what she's Asian, right? I don't even know what her ethnicity is. She appears to be Asian. I'm sure there's the left is ramping up all their bigotry defenses for her, right? All these mean Republicans don't like her because she's Asian. They're bigots. They're just they're just racists and bigots. No, she's a radical kook who has no business, no business whatsoever in a responsible position of authority at the Treasury Department. So keep all that in mind. Bear in mind that she shoplifted a couple decades ago, so people are mocking her for that. There's the racist thing. There's the same, you're getting personal with her. These are personal attacks. Don't do personal texts. So listen to this reasoned, eloquent, short of every man approach that U.S. senator Tim Scott from South Carolina takes in addressing Biden's nominee. I want to be fair, and I will be fair. I won't be hyperbolic, but I will be Frank and honest. I can not think of a nominee more poorly suited to be the control of the currency based solely on your public positions, statements, and the weight of your writings. Than you are. Let me just quote you versus anybody else. On the Green New Deal champion, you propose taking economic and climate policy making from Congress and creating an unaccountable bureaucracy called the national investment authority. In a round table this year, this year, you push to make the NIA the dedicated institutional platform at the federal level for really being the kind of fighting muscle of the Green New Deal and fighting muscle of you know all of these other movements that pursuing environmental justice, social equality and so on. You're disdain for the financial services industry. In 2019 in the documentary, titled, I'll be kind, buttholes, a theory. You said the financial services industry in my view and I don't think I'm alone here is the quintessential butthole

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Brian Kilmeade Knew Fox News Was Special 25 Years Ago

The Eric Metaxas Show

01:42 min | 2 weeks ago

Brian Kilmeade Knew Fox News Was Special 25 Years Ago

"And today I get to talk to the author of a book called the president and the freedom fighter, Abraham Lincoln Frederick Douglass and their battle to save America soul. And the author of the book is someone you may know, named Brian kilmeade, Brian, you look very familiar. Eric, thanks so much for your support over the years. Every time I have a book out, you always say come down to this cathedral. And this place is the nicest studio I've ever seen. Period. Thank you very much. Look, this, I think I told you this. And by the way, people, if you're just tuning in, this guy has been on Fox and Friends for how many years now? 25. Radio show for 13. Well, hold on a second. Did you just say 25? Yeah, I started doing it in junior high. I thought so. Yeah, it was crazy. Playing pop Warner football and they grabbed you. It took me 12 years to be to get to Fox. And then once I got there, I realized how great it was, even though no one had heard of it yet. So when it started, I started filling in as a sports guy, and then it evolved and things started going crazy from the war from the election mess to the war on terror to the Iraq War. First election mess. Failure to a 2000 Chad hanging chads. Yes. So you are the youngest living institution in the country. Seriously, that's amazing 25 years from the beginning. Yeah, I mean, I knew when I walked into that place who was going to be special, they were all about winning. They're all about substance. They're all about getting things done completion oriented. Every time they would be a negative story out, they would put their headline on the wall. I'm like, wow, they're not running for negative stories. They would laugh at being laughed at. These guys, this is like Bill Parcells. And the Giants before they were even 500. Until recently, I'm talking about the build ourselves just 25 years. Good

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There Are Too Many White Teachers in Virginia, Says Terry Mcauliffe

Mike Gallagher Podcast

01:26 min | Last month

There Are Too Many White Teachers in Virginia, Says Terry Mcauliffe

"How about the assertion that Terry McCullough makes that there are too many white teachers in Virginia? That's what Patrick and Hayward California wants to tackle. Here in the relief factor dot com studios, how you doing Patrick? Great. That's just exactly what I wanted to talk about. Good. You talk about a community of Hispanic and Asians and whites and black living together. I live in a very diverse community and all that guy is doing is saying that as an educator that this critical race theory is not something that these people want to push on their children. Why would they want to become educators? Why would they why would they why would they want to walk into that buzz shark? Why would they even want to walk into this? And how would you? And how do you feel if you're a teacher for 25 years in Virginia and you happen to be white? What do you not count? Terry McCullough? You don't care about the 50% of the students that are a color that correct. You're trying to you're trying to put them on the back burner and say, oh well, you're not good enough to be an educator. That's what we want. That's what we want to teach our students. These people love America. Especially you want to talk about the immigrants like the Hispanic and the Asians that are part that make up this classroom. These people love America. And you want to they're trying to tell you that you want to become an educator and keep them America's awful? No, I don't buy it. That guy needs to go. He sure does Patrick well put, I appreciate

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'War by Other Means' Author General Keith Kellogg on the Politicization of the Military

The Eric Metaxas Show

03:15 min | Last month

'War by Other Means' Author General Keith Kellogg on the Politicization of the Military

"Okay, this is exciting. There's a brand new book out. It's called war by other means. It is by a general who was in the Trump White House Keith Kellogg. He was former national security adviser to president Trump. We know that well, the book purports to reveal the politics at play within our highest ranking military leadership and how caving to the leftist agenda and cultural pressure by those in the top ranks of America's military has left America, more vulnerable to national security threats than ever. Unfortunately, I don't need any convincing on that score. But it is a real pleasure. To have a general Keith Kellogg on the program to tour to talk about his new book war by other means general welcome to this program. Thank you. Thanks for having me today. Well, let's jump right into it. What you say, unfortunately, is something that seems to be pretty clear to those who are paying attention to what's going on. How is it possible that this could happen? You always think that there are firewalls put up by the founders in the constitution so that this kind of thing can not happen. In the military is supposed to be the military. They're not supposed to be about transgender policies or about white nationalist threats. What in the world enabled this kind of thing to happen? Because when I think of a general, whether it's general Mattis or Millie, it's hard for me to process that they have to cut to the chase gone over to the dark side that something has happened in their careers or at some point to allow them to be used by the I will call it the anti American left, at least that's how I see it. What do you suppose has happened that this was made possible. Yeah, it's sanctuary. I think it's a great question. I think the military the senior levels have become really politicized. And I think part of that very honestly was because of 20 years of war and Afghanistan. And that's one of the reasons by the way I wanted to get out of Africa with the president as well. Because the military became too politically aligned going forward and they saw where the money was coming from and the philosophers they had behind it. And they had reached a point with Mark milley where you see him today. And very candidly, Mark and I have known each other for 25 years. But he has put himself in a position and the way he's talking right now that you never saw general Meyer, a former chairman, general Meyer, Pete pace, Hugh Shelton, Colin Powell. Joe Dunford, none of them spoke the way he speaks now. And he's become very, very politicized on his approach to the military. And I think it's a huge mistake. I think a mistake for the military. And I reminded a lot of people, people forgot what article two section two of the constitution talks about. And there's one unitary commander chief and he's elected commander in

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AG Garland Won't Say if He Sought Ethics Guidance Regarding Ties to Son-in-Law's CRT-Promoting Company

Mike Gallagher Podcast

03:03 min | Last month

AG Garland Won't Say if He Sought Ethics Guidance Regarding Ties to Son-in-Law's CRT-Promoting Company

"Apparently there's a company. That Merrick Garland's son in law is part of or runs or works for that advocate, critical race theory. What's the name of the company guys I'm drawing a blank? I want to say Polaroid. It's not Polaroid. It's it starts with a pee, I think. Say it out loud, Derrick, what? Think this pattern. Panorama, that's what it is. Yeah, it is. It's panorama. So panorama is a company that Merrick Garland's son in law works for and so Merrick Garland is sicking the FBI on parents who are ostensibly challenging the business model of Merrick Garland's son in law. So yesterday, as the AG was appearing before the House judiciary committee, House judiciary committee member Mike Johnson congressman from Louisiana had this unbelievable exchange with Merrick Garland who immediately turned into like a stepford wife, he was like a robot. He started going to this talking point about this memorandum set. He's talking about the memo well you got to hear this. Did you excuse me? Did you seek ethics counsel before you issued a letter that directly relates to the financial interest of your family? Yes or no? This memorandum does not relate to the financial interests of anyone. It's I take that as a no. I take that as a no. Memorandum is against violence and threats of violence. Will you mister attorney general? Will you commit to having the appropriate ethics design the review the case and make the results public? This memorandum is aimed at violence and threats of violence. I understand you're talking point, you're not answering my question, mister attorney general. With all due respect, will you submit to an ethics review of this matter? Yes or no? There's no company in America or hopefully no law abiding citizen in America who believes that threats of violence should not be prevented. There are no conflicts of interest that anyone could have. According to you, but with due respect, that's the purpose of the federal regulation. We need objective third parties to review our activities. You don't get to make that decision yourself. It doesn't matter. You're the top, you're the chief law enforcement of this country. This raises questions in the minds of millions of Americans in your impartiality is being called into question. Why would you not submit to a simple ethics review of that? I am exquisitely aware of the ethics requirements. But you're not following them. I have followed them and lived with them for the last 25 years. Did you seek an ethics review of this or not? I want to say again, there are no conflicts of interest involved when the Justice Department. Okay, okay. According to you, I got that. I'm not trying to be distracted, but you are not respecting our rules, our constitutional norms and the federal law that directly applies to your

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 UK police charge 25-year-old man with lawmaker's murder

AP News Radio

00:52 sec | Last month

UK police charge 25-year-old man with lawmaker's murder

"A man has been charged with murder I'm preparing acts of terrorism in the stopping of British politician and lawmaker sedated they miss Holly Hobbie Ali H. twenty five I'm from north London has been charged with murder the charge was announced by police spokesman Matt cheek Ali is accused to stopping British politician Amos as he met his constituents at a chat tool the prosecutor in the case intends to submit that the matter had a terrorist connection because it but it's just an ideological motivations the death of a mess who had a forty year career in British politics some of my two than twenty fifteen has sought to Britain's politicians who pride themselves on being accessible to their constituents G. compound police authorities reassessing politicians security we've been working closely with parliaments and security team and with the home office to review existing arrangements for MP security I'm

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Voice of America Interviews Nasria, Pregnant American Woman Stranded in Afghanistan

Mark Levin

01:55 min | 3 months ago

Voice of America Interviews Nasria, Pregnant American Woman Stranded in Afghanistan

"And I saw this Indian clip and it was a Taliban ist and I said, I got to use that alabaster, but notice I give it credit. I give them credit. Anyway, Listen to this. It is quite heartbreaking. It's a news story reporter Carla Bob with the Voice of America. Cut. Five go. There's been days where, you know, I think to myself like Am I going to make it home? Am I going to end up living here? Am I going to end up dying here? What's gonna happen? 25 year old California native Nasariyah came to the Afghan capital in June to visit family and marry her longtime boyfriend. She and her new husband fled to the airport after the Taliban took control, but they never made it in. It was so hard to just get on the plate. There was There was a couple of days where we had to sleep on streets. People were literally step over people. That's how bad well after her booked flight home was canceled. Amid the chaos. She reached out to the State Department for help. They told us go to Western location. You will be picked up and this is from the state from me. You will get picked up, go there, and it was in the middle of the road across the airport. So we went there waited in extra 12 to 13 hours with no food, No water. Nothing. She'd wave her passport. They won't let us go there. Gassing. Okay, but day and night the Taliban kept blocking her. I was gonna pointed To my head. Our troops were literally at the gate just waiting for us to continue you walking and they had blocked us. It was a time where, like, I wouldn't pass them and I started walking as fast as I can, and they start shooting right by my leg and told me to come back or there should be My God, That's how it was. And I've never in my life have ever believe experienced anything like

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Woman Who Drove Into Children Gets 25 Years for Hate Crime

Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

00:14 sec | 3 months ago

Woman Who Drove Into Children Gets 25 Years for Hate Crime

"White woman from iowa gets more prison time for a racist hit and run attack trying to kill two children with her suv. She's been already sentenced to twenty five up to twenty five years for attempted murder. Now another twenty five years on hate crimes.

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Jamie Lee Curtis Reveals Her 25-Year-Old Child Is Transgender

Doug Stephan

00:34 sec | 4 months ago

Jamie Lee Curtis Reveals Her 25-Year-Old Child Is Transgender

"Jamie Lee Curtis as an announcement. What's the scoop? She did the cover for an AARP magazine. Coming up the August September issue and the cover story. She discussed her life. Her husband, her two kids, Her oldest daughter, 34, year Old Annie, and Her 25 year old daughter, Ruby, who was born her son and is now transgender daughter. Uh, how do they feel about that? She seems to be here out. Yeah, And she said that she and her husband have watched in wonder and pride as our son became our daughter,

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A Lonely Olympics for Athletes Competing to Be Champions

Morning Edition

02:09 min | 4 months ago

A Lonely Olympics for Athletes Competing to Be Champions

"The Olympics are going to turn into a covid super spreader event. The city is under a state of emergency, and athletes say it all feels a little lonely. Here's NPR's Leila Fadel Emiliano Basso is a reserve field hockey goalkeeper from Argentina. He's in the hallway of his Tokyo hotel. This is where he's staying separated from his team in the Olympic Village. It's just him the reserve goalkeeper for the women's team and a couple Argentinian handball players. We took a bit it we don't have a more interactions. Between as they're confined to their rooms when they aren't at practice to limit possible infections. So this is his day, wake up in the morning and get very fast and it's inside the room. And they get taxi to go to a practice. Back to the hotel and get psyched to go to practice. I'm like silica gel and then the same. Well, today's you eat dinner were am dinner inside the room. So everything by yourself? Yes. Despite the difficulties, the separation from his team the 25 year old is ecstatic is fair Olympic. It's fantastic. Are you excited? Yes, yes, I'm really happy. When we finished chatting, he walks to his room with a Japanese newspaper and a translation app to keep him company for the night. Being an Olympic athlete this summer means little fanfare and lots of isolation. Foreign Spectators are banned. Japanese fans whose tax dollars largely paid for these games can go to events either Save a few venues outside Tokyo so athletes will see selfie videos of fans at their competitions. And here recorded sounds of cheers like this from the first U. S women's soccer match with Sweden this week. Echoed in a cavernous, empty stadium meant for tens of thousands of cheering supporters. When the sweets walked off the field winners, there was silence except for the applause of three team officials holding a Swedish flag.

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6 Shot Outside Party in Austin

The Sinatra Hours

00:33 sec | 4 months ago

6 Shot Outside Party in Austin

"Were shot outside a party in the Austin neighborhood late last night, five of the victims ranging in age from 12 to 19. They were standing in a group on the sidewalk around 11 30 in the 5000 block of West Ohio. Someone in a dark colored SUV drove by and opened fire. 15 14 13 year old were shot at night. 18 year old shot in the back and a 12 year old shot in the hand. They were all taken to the hospital in fair condition. A 25 year old man was also hit in the back side. He has been treated and released.

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World No. 1 Ashleigh Barty Defeats Karolina Pliskova for First Wimbledon Title

WBZ Programming

00:18 sec | 5 months ago

World No. 1 Ashleigh Barty Defeats Karolina Pliskova for First Wimbledon Title

"As the world's number one seed, claims the title in London, Ashleigh Barty defeated number eight seed Karolina Pliskova in three sets to become the new women's Wimbledon champion. This is the 25 Year Olds, first Wimbledon victory and second career Grand Slam singles title. She's the first Australian woman to reach this high honor since

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"2.5 years" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

Newsradio 700 WLW

04:40 min | 5 months ago

"2.5 years" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

"A former All Star they acquired Alex Wood, a former All Star who would have thought that 2 2.5 years. Later. The only guy remaining from that deal would be Kyle Farmer, and you might argue the guy who's been most valuable because you can play a couple of different positions. He's had some big hits this year, and even if he shouldn't be cast as the starting shortstop, he's a really nice piece to have because you can play anywhere in the infield. You can put up. You can put them behind the plate if necessary, and as pensioners dough, and that's probably the role he's best suited for. As pinch hitters go, the Reds have had far fewer reliable bats come to the plate. In critical situations than Kyle Farmer. He's been a really nice pickup, and he's done. I think as as good as you ever could have expected him to do playing shortstop at the same time, they still need some offensive help, and that's the place. I think you're most likely likely to look and the name that a lot of people are going to talk about His Trevor story of the Colorado Rockies. I'm not necessarily sure the resident to be able to meet the asking price of Colorado. But if you're looking for a place where you can find the bat offensively that can help us clean a little bit, I think the first place for looking as a shortstop Then maybe center field, depending on how they feel about the guys, They have their right Now. There you go. Mow Egger. Great observations and people message. I mean, this is totally unfair. BU being in Milwaukee and on the road and I don't I don't think I've contributed to this. But the the messages I've gotten most sounds sober. I don't know why that would be so surprising multiple tweet as well as a texture to I don't think I framed it so that I thought you were boozing it up, But I mean, you're on the road. It's a weekend. Why not? Well, I'm not going to say that. I haven't had a couple of cold ones today, but I've spent most of the day on the golf course and the rule. There is moderation. Now, if you talk to me at about six hours, and you and I've had conversations like that before, If you talk to me at about six hours, it might be a different ballgame. Fair enough. Yes, that's exactly correct. Enjoy the rest of your weekend in Milwaukee. Hopefully, Reds can at least do it again tonight and maybe take three or four. Which would be nice. And set them up before that All Star game to come back to Great American ballpark after seeing some Reds do some damage in Colorado. That's what I'm looking forward to. It's just nice to have games that are substantive games that matter where it looks like. Guys are out there trying and not going through the motions where you want to go to the ballpark and hang out with your friends and go. Hey, it's more than a social gathering. This team is something that in itself makes me feel good. Or am I living better through lowered expectations? You know this this team this team is I sent a couple of different times. This team is worth investing in and they always weren't worth investing in and I wish you know, I get accused of being too mean to Reds ownership, but I wish this offseason the front office would have gone all in with the core of guys they have right now because it is a good core. It is a a good core and and likeable and fun to watch, and they play hard, and they've They pulled themselves automatic couple of different times. I think this team is worthy of being invested in and I think this team is worthy of being watched and paid attention to. Now again. These next two nights are big. Can you imagine if they could win these next to you go to the All Star break. You come back and you have the Milwaukee Brewers, who you trailed by four. You have them come in a great American ballpark for a weekend series. That's the kind of thing that sterling for years we've been dying for right all those years in which the red Rebuilding all those years in which you know by now the Reds were a billion games out of first place. We've been longing for a midsummer series at home that really mattered. Granted, it's going to matter a lot more of this team can take care of business these next two nights, but still this club. If you take where a lot of people thought this team was going to be at this stage in the season, if you if you look at what was written about this club and in late April and early May, when folks were talking about a possible fire sale, or people talking about the Reds being sellers, or those kind of lamenting the fact the Reds we're going to have another losing season. This team has put itself in a position where they are now playing the kind of games that we wanted to see for a long time. If they can handle their business against the Milwaukee Brewers, and let's say they win three out of the neck. Lots right. And in that case, if you do that, I think we feel pretty good about their chances the rest of the way, And I think it would make it crystal clear that this front office needs to give this team a boost. Whether it be a bullpen arm, whether it be a bat, whether it be a starting pitcher somewhere. It's up to these guys to put the front office in that type of position and hopefully over the next couple of games against Milwaukee. They can do that. That's it. We'll get you ready for it. Reds brewers Coming up my man Mohagher. Thanks for making time you.

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"2.5 years" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

Bloomberg Radio New York

04:29 min | 5 months ago

"2.5 years" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

"In fact, the states had been freed some 2.5 years before because the Emancipation Proclamation Yes. In signing it Yesterday, President Biden made it clear that it's good to commemorate, but there's more that needs to be done. June teeth represents not only the commemoration of the end of slavery in America more than 150 years ago, but the ongoing work to have to bring true equity and racing justice and the American society which we can do. Yeah. We're joined now by Carly Fiorina herself as I say she was the CEO of Hewlett Packard, as well as the founder and chairman of Carly Fiorina, Enterprises and unlikely potential. So curly when I listen to this, and I think about this There's a lot for all of us to do not just to remember what happened at 18 65, but also in addressing some of what has been lost to so many of our fellow Americans through the years, not just because of slavery because of Jim Crow, so many acts of racial inequity, and that includes I think corporation. So as a former head of a very major corporation, what should corporations be doing? Well, first, I think it's great to be with you, as always, David. But first, I think it's useful for corporations to put this new holiday into context for their employees. In other words, instead of just saying, Okay, you get another day off is actually just spend some time describing what this is and why it's a holiday so that employees have some understanding. The second thing, of course, is that corporations can continue to make progress in the diversity. Of their workforce and their executive team. You know the fortune 500 CEOs were just announced and the data came out and in the fortune 500 we now have 41 women and four blacks. I mean, my goodness that data has been kept since the fifties. We only have four African American CEOs in the fortune, 500, so and 41 women, so clearly, we have a long way to go, and I think that's the most direct thing. Corporations can do, which is to make real progress, faster progress on building a truly diverse workforce at all levels based on merit. Which is the good thing to do the right thing to do. It's also perhaps the smart thing to do. I remember. You know, I was invoked Tom Murphy, the CEO of CAP Cities. I remember him coming in one day and saying, I looked around my senior management team and realized how much of the brains in the town in the country we were leaving out. Because of the under representation of women and have black citizens. The fact is, if we're going to be truly competitive, we need all the good brains and talent we can get. And some of those, certainly, certainly some of those Are female, and they are people of color. Yes, and beyond that, David, Of course, Tom was absolutely right. But beyond that, there's now So much evidence. That says that teams perform better when they are diverse, and the reason teams perform at a higher level when they are diverse is because all of us think better. We perform better when we are challenged by perspectives that are different than our own by ideas that are different than our own and frequently we are challenged. Buy something different from someone different, and so it's not just a good thing to do. It's a really smart thing to do. The data is clear. Now diverse teams performed at a higher level. Carly, one of things that struck me about this, and I wanted to talk about because not only have you run you look Packard, but also you ran for president yourself. We've talked a lot about hyper partisanship in this country. We've now had two significant initiatives comes through Congress that were, if not unanimous. Awfully close. GM's one of them was that endless frontiers bill basically investing in tech, particularly The committee in China. And now this Juneteenth, which went through essentially with no votes against it. Does that hold out some hope that in fact, when there are certain issues that the people get behind the representatives are willing to overcome their partisan prejudices. Yes, it does give you hope, doesn't it? And I think it's actually reassuring that there was so much unanimity around Juneteenth. Um am I must say, disheartened that we seem unable to come up with a compromise around a voting bill. I was disappointed that Mitch McConnell said, No, we're not even going to consider Joe Mansions attempt at a compromise..

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Chicago Shooting Leaves 4 Dead, 4 Injured

Morning News with Manda Factor and Gregg Hersholt

00:19 sec | 6 months ago

Chicago Shooting Leaves 4 Dead, 4 Injured

"This country this morning, police say an argument broke out at a residents on Chicago's south side erupting in gunfire. The end result. Four people dead, four others wounded. It happened about quarter to six this morning. No arrests were immediately made for injured include a 25 year old man who was shot in the back of the head. Another man who was shot

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25-Year-Old Dies in Downtown Austin Mass Shooting

Sean Hannity

00:16 sec | 6 months ago

25-Year-Old Dies in Downtown Austin Mass Shooting

"People shot in the mass shooting in Austin over the weekend, has died. Austin police identified the victim is 25 year old Douglas Cantor. At least one of the victim was in critical condition and police have arrested one suspect described as a juvenile, the other still on the loose. The T s

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Barbora Krejcikova Wins French Open, Completing Wild Tournament

The Energy Show

00:21 sec | 6 months ago

Barbora Krejcikova Wins French Open, Completing Wild Tournament

"Cried takeover has won her first Grand Slam title by beating anesthesia Pavlyuchenkova 612664 and the French Open final. This was only the fifth major tournament in singles Fork, Radicova. The 25 year old from the Czech Republic is the third unseated women's champion in the last five years at Roland Garros. Let's get a check of the forecast from the

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Kid Rock Spews Homophobic Slur at People Filming Him at Tennessee Bar

Z Morning Zoo

01:56 min | 6 months ago

Kid Rock Spews Homophobic Slur at People Filming Him at Tennessee Bar

"It's not unlike kid Rock to blurt out whatever he feels when he has the mic. He took the stage on Saturday night at a bar in Tennessee and went after a crowd for recording him on their phones now. Security had been telling people to put their phones down the entire time. That was the rule. But kid decided to take matters into his own hands and say, Did you preview this guys and say this through the true? Yeah, Hosting inside you can postings you can pulses, right? With your phone. Oh, my gosh. So he said f your iPhone? Yeah. And then some girls like Yeah. And then he called the people recording him a homophobic slur that starts with the letter F. Yeah, and, uh, the people? Yeah. Who are those people? People that go to kid rock shows, I guess. Yeah, so there you go. Bad. Yeah, It's bad. I like to kid Rock growing up, you know, and being from Detroit. He was obviously big back home. And, uh, I like Kid rock. And if I went to a bar and find that kid rock just showed up to perform, I would be like, Yeah, you would be that person. I'm not kidding. I would be until he looked at me and called me the F. Yeah, I like yeah. Whoa, yeah. Would definitely stay about you, Kid Rock was coming. I would do But even in a crowd, even with a few beers in me, I would literally go. Wow. That was kind of offsides, wasn't I? Just if this is kid rock now Just imagine in 25 years he's going to be a cranky old man. He is the new 10. Nugent, If you're gonna do top 40 radio Iraq radio in 25 years you have gold coming your way you do indefinitely. Yeah,

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The BBC Apologizes for Diana Interview, 25 Years Later

Masters in Business

00:19 sec | 6 months ago

The BBC Apologizes for Diana Interview, 25 Years Later

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New Idaho Law Calls for Killing 90% of the State's Wolves

Weekend Edition Saturday

00:51 sec | 6 months ago

New Idaho Law Calls for Killing 90% of the State's Wolves

"Advocates say legislation recently passed in Idaho and Montana could wipe out years of recovery in wolf populations. Troy copy of Boise State. Public Radio has more Lawmakers in Idaho say the state's 1500 wolves are too many and threatened livestock and other wildlife. Wildlife managers say reintroducing wolves 25 years ago is benefiting ecosystems and that overall wolves don't kill large numbers of livestock. New law increases funding for professional extermination efforts and allows hunters expanded use of traps, night vision goggles and motorized chase. Bellevue Mayor Ned Burns, who is also a hunter says the new law violates ethical hunting standards. I don't necessarily know that that's the way I've ever been raised to hunt animals. The New Idaho law allows hunters to kill 90% of the state's wolf population. For

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"2.5 years" Discussed on WMAL 630AM

WMAL 630AM

02:18 min | 10 months ago

"2.5 years" Discussed on WMAL 630AM

"Critic judge in Moscow has sentenced opposition leader Alexei Navalny 2 2.5 years in prison. Jalen President Vladimir Putin's most prominent critic, the sentence stems from an old fraud conviction, a case navalny says was fabricated. In court today, he said the Kremlin is trying to scare millions of Russians into submission protests at the weekend so a reported 5000 people arrested In London. Simon Ellen Fox News Day Department is calling that attention of leaders in a Burma by the military coup. What is promising sanctions and other measures it says will target the very small circle of generals responsible Nobel winner on songs Hoochie and others have been detained since the weekend claiming fraud in the country's November elections, which her party won by a landslide. I like your car company you recalling tens of thousands of vehicles? There's little agrees to a voluntary recall of 135,000 vehicles with touch screen displays that could fail after the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration sought the recall last month of 2012 to 2018 model s and 2016 to 2018 Model X vehicles with touchscreen display failures that we're told posed safety threats, including the loss of backup cameras and windshield, the frosting systems. And H. T S a last month said that test look provided confirmation that all units will inevitably fail given their memory devices. Finite storage capacity. Jeff Man, also Fox News Award winning character actor How Holbrook, who portrayed Mark Twain for decades in a one man show, when famously uttered the phrase follow the money in the political thriller. All the President's men has died. He was 95, his representative says Holbrook died January 23rd, but his passing was just made public today. I'm least of the Sarah and this this past June, 1 by one. Thank you for taking my call. Thank you very much for taking my call. Every caller gets there saying no one else is really talking about this. I'm glad you're fired up about it. One quick question for you. You know, there's so many issues, whether you agree. Thank you politically wrong or disagree. I will have to really do you want sweet guys work for guys so bad on politics. You're invited to join the conversation..

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"2.5 years" Discussed on AP News

AP News

02:11 min | 10 months ago

"2.5 years" Discussed on AP News

"I'm Ed Donahue with an AP News minute A court in Moscow ordered Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny to prison for more than 2.5 years, finding he violated the terms of his probation while recuperating in Germany from nerve agent poisoning. White House press secretary Jen Psaki says President Biden is deeply concerned. Like every Russian citizen, Mr Navalny is entitled to the rights provided in the Russian Constitution and Russia has international obligations to respect equality before the law. And the rights to freedom of expression and peaceful assembly. Navalny denounced the proceedings is a vain attempt by the Kremlin to scare millions of Russians into submission. Snow keeps falling in the Northeast Kino. Walter White from Las Vegas is at the Newark airport with all this snow that's going on in all this. I hear I've been in the airport for three days snowed in. No kind of accommodations. Some Corona virus vaccination sites across the Northeast ramp back up today after being closed because of the storm. I'm Ed Donahue Majority Leader Chuck Schumer says senators will vote today on the first step toward eventually approving the $1.9 trillion deal with or without GOP support. That comes after the president told some Republicans were pitching a sharply smaller package that he's unwilling to settle for an insufficient bill. Schumer says Congress needs to take bold action toward what he calls America's long awaited come back. We're not going to dilute dinner or delay. Republicans say the package should be bipartisan, and Democrats will undercut the president's unity pledge if they act on their own. Soccer Megane Washington 80 news. I'm Ed Donahue in South Florida today in sunrise. The FBI says two of its agents were killed, three others wounded. They were serving a search warrant in a child exploitation case. The FBI also says the suspect died at some point during a standoff in which he barricaded himself inside a home. The State Department says the military detention of civilian leaders in Myanmar was a cool sanctions are expected. This is Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell spoke with President Biden secretary blinking yesterday about the situation in Burma..

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"2.5 years" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

Bloomberg Radio New York

01:41 min | 1 year ago

"2.5 years" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York

"C. Hey, Nathan. Hey, Carol President Trump backed away from a crisis of his own making by signing the pandemic relief and spending Bill Days late, And just last night now. Americans wait for that economic boost. It's very exciting, and I hope that a lot of families can get relief. And all the people who are still struggling about employment don't have to face such grim news in the beginning of a new year. That woman lives in Annapolis, Maryland. The delayed signing means up to 14 million Americans are going to miss a week of expanded jobless benefits. President Trump it held out for $2000 stimulus checks rather than the 600 that are part of the bill. He just signed. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will stage a roll call vote on the higher stimulus checks this afternoon that could highlight Republican opposition President elect Joe Biden plans to invoke the Defense Production Act to ramp up vaccine production. Sort of member of the president elect's covert advisory team. Celine Gounder is telling CNBC. So far, about two million vaccine doses have been administered in this country. President Trump's head of Corona virus testing, Admiral Bret Jawad tells ABC is good morning America Country is still on track to distribute 20 million doses. This week that two million number is delayed 3 to 7 days, so we certainly expect that to be ah, multiple of two million We're going to distribute another 4.7 million this week. So by the end of this week in the hands of the states over 15.5 Million Doses Street, the New York Times reported, the Trump Administration agreed to use the Defense Production act to help Fizer gain better access to products that needs to make vaccine. One of Saudi Arabia is most prominent women's rights activists has been sentenced to six years in prison. Lou Jean, all half Lule had already been in pre trial detention for 2.5 years. Right Screw.

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"2.5 years" Discussed on NewsRadio WIOD

NewsRadio WIOD

03:58 min | 1 year ago

"2.5 years" Discussed on NewsRadio WIOD

"And this is going back. You know, with the Nunes Memo and the Grassley grand memo. That is over 2.5 years ago. Still nothing has happened. They haven't changed anything with Fiza. Nothing has changed. There are on this is the difference between President Trump and some of the Washington Ah establishment, right. He has done a lot to be proactive and address. The problems in our country. Whereas there is this tendency in Washington going back for many, many decades, if not more to just, you know, go with the flow and look out for the The you know the chosen feel and the The ones who are kind of politically protected in the Washington establishment, Beltway Bandit class. What do you think of bar? Do you think we're going to see any reports coming out? For the end of the year. Well, I'm hopeful. Look, I mean, the bottom line for my case, which was just filed late last week is it's a very clear cut case, right? I mean, this is Crimes have clearly been committed, you know, And there is definitively a number of people who, um Who got involved in this collaboration. Um And so I mean, you know, Visa be my particular case. I think I'm I'm in great shape to the extent again, you know, similar to the step by step process we're talking about To the extent we do get more transparency and more information. I think it's only a Ah win win situation for for all Americans, and, you know, I think people have been Calling for this. I can't tell you the question using fast me. I'm I've constantly been asked, going back many, many months, if not years, and unfortunately The wait continues. That's now. So we'll say last question. I have to ask, um, $75 Million. Why not? Ah, lot more. Sincerely. I'm not a suing guy and I hate these things. But if the federal government has anything to do with it, that that's a that's a rounding error. Well, look, Glenn, I mean, this I am up against literally some of the most powerful legal forces in the world. Right? So and I I'm lucky that I have a team of Ah, you know, attorneys who are who are doing everything they can. I'm I'm very fortunate that Lin Wood and the fight back foundation has Has been helping in terms of providing some of the capital. But these air long ongoing battles and I'm up. You know, I've got the help of linen at that fight back foundation and you know our small team of attorneys. But again, we're up against literally dozens of Uh, that you know, actors within DOJ and their their former employees who were at the center of all this. I mean, to the extent to the extent people can help us fight back that law, there's You know any any small amount would be would be appreciated it but you know, it's it's a long, ongoing battle. So you have to. You have to have sort of pick your battles. I will say it says you know that the complaint says 75, you know, no lesson. 75 million, So you know, we'll we'll see. And I think if people do the right thing, then, uh, you know, justice will eventually be served, and I can tell you anything that I do get I will give back tenfold in terms of, you know, future future philanthropy to help fix these problems, which have plagued our country for Carter Page. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. God bless glad about it. We'll follow the case..

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"2.5 years" Discussed on WTMJ 620

WTMJ 620

06:47 min | 1 year ago

"2.5 years" Discussed on WTMJ 620

"If you're just tuning Erica Special surprise here in the studio force, because Tom Faiza, the original Mr Fix. It was kind enough to say You know what? David, You want to go deer hunting. I'll be happy to fill in one day old Lee. So here you are the original Mr. Fix it. It is a great picks a day, Libby and I guess I do feel like I'm the original. Mr. Fix that I I was Mr. Fix it on the radio for 31 years. Yeah, so, Yeah, they gives you bragging rights. Something like that. Yeah. Did you shit on the tombstone? It'll say the original Mr. Fix Up your original. All right. If you want to talk to tub, the accident mortgage talking Tex Light is open. That line is 85561616 20. Let's see. Let's go to mosquito. Oh, we have Jeff on the line. And Jeff, What's your question for Mr Fix it today. For Good morning. It's good to have you back in the chair time. Good to hear your voice. Thanks. Got a quick question. Bought a house 2.5 years ago. It had a water soccer system in it, Okay. It was never connected since we've on the house and we're doing a big remodeling project right now. We're thinking about just getting, you know, having an unplugged and getting rid of it. Since you said we haven't noticed any problems with water. If we do, go ahead and get rid of it. Are there places that would take a system like this? It looks like to be about 20 years old. The house was built in 97. I think it was put in, you know, around when the house was built? Sure. Yeah. 20 years old. No, no one's gonna want that. I'm not sure how they are, if they recycle them. Uh, I'm not sure what to tell you about getting rid of it. But at 20 years at the end of its life, the area you're in, I see it's Lisk Eagle. Do you think you get city of Milwaukee Water? It seems like it. Okay? Um, it's not well, water. It doesn't. It's probably City, Milwaukee. It's real common for suburbs close to Milwaukee to buy city of Milwaukee water I mean, you want to check you could check with your local utility. They asked him, But if you have city of Milwaukee, Water is a very high quality product and is very low and hardness. It's got a couple of grains of hardness, so most people think it's 100% soft. On dit Isse. It's really close. So I would say almost everyone connected to the Milwaukee water system does not use the software. And so you know, that's probably why you think the water is just fine. So I wouldn't feel bad about disconnected it But check with your local utility and find out where the water comes from. Okay, Jeff. Thanks thanks to your coat, get a lot of lines lighting up. But here's somebody out or text like has to question a while back, cannot drain trap attached directly to the threads on the bottom of laundry utility sink. Gonna drink? I have. I don't have enough information to drain tramp attacks directly to the threats. On the bottom, So I guess they're talking about if you got the sink, and you just buy it all in one. Yeah, I don't know what they're talking about. I mean, there's a tail piece that connects And there's ah piece that connects through the bottom of the sink with some gas in the material, and it's tightened up and then the trap and I don't know any if they want to call and I could talk, Tonto, and that's why we have the academic research architects sanity by 561616 20 What we've got Cheryl, New Berlin and Cheryl, You've got a question about your deck for Tom. Hi, Cheryl. Hello, Cheryl. Are you with us? Oh, yeah. Okay. There you go, Cheryl. Yeah, I'm in Berlin with the conference in Berlin. My mistake. Yes, I have a question. I have a deck that hasn't been seen for a long time. It's in good shape, The wood and everything. It's pre treated wood and I would like to stay that next summer. How do I prepare the deck? Were steaming again. Sure where you are. Go toe a the paint store that the professionals go to which might be like a Sherwin Williams or home and Lindsay. I have one in town. Yeah, Okay, So that's where you want to get your products because those guys know what they're talking about. And then you would buy a deck cleaner. That is compatible with the deck finish you want to use so as far as a cleaner, some of had oxalic acid Summer Beach place based I like tax Alec acid. But basically spread out the cleaner. You give it a good scrubbing, And as long as it's pretty, you know, it'll refresh the would put it that way of take some of the gray out. And it's good to get a clean. You've got to get a clean, so if they clean it up, then I would use personally a penetrating some my transparent sealer of some type. It's meant for a deck. Uh, woman makes a good one Can. It makes a good one. But there's all different brands that are pretty good. And then you put that on with a brush or roller just a really thin coat. With that, Then we'll do is you can restore the color if you like a cedar tent, or if you like a gray tint, you could restore go back to those colors. And then the would be nice and looked like new and you'll get a nice uniform color. And the only unfortunate part about Dex is you know every two years or so you have to redo that. All right, Same process. I heard that Pittsburgh has a scheme with a built in Steeler. Did you ever hear of that? I wouldn't doubt that. But I haven't heard of that one in particular. Um, able, my neighbor, you fat and he told me about it. Okay. And is that works Well for him and Prioress. Well, you know, they all have competing products. American building restoration is one of my favorites called A B R. American building restoration. We're actually on our Kenosha in a Quality paint store will carry that. And that's a good one They make are clear in a Finnish show a BR American building restoration on I've used that stuff for years. I used to have an e P a deck, which is the Ironwood, the hardwood. And beautiful product and beautiful finishes. So it's just a bit of work every year. Every other year, I should say, and that's take a being So good luck with that, Cheryl. Thanks, Cheryl. And if you want to get through to talk to Tom facing was here for David Basin today. Exact mortgage talking text.

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"2.5 years" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

KTAR 92.3FM

03:49 min | 1 year ago

"2.5 years" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM

"For 2.5 years, Sarah Huckabee. Sanders sparred with the press from the White House podium. She also spent that time at President Trump's side. She is a mom, a politician, a former press secretary and Alan author, and she's out with a new book called Speaking for myself, Faith, Freedom and the Fight of Our Lives Inside the Trump White House. Sarah Huckabee. Sanders joins us Now you spent Ah lot of time with President Trump. Let's just start off. Give me your thoughts on what kind of a person he is. You know, One of the reasons that I wrote this book was because I wanted people to see the other side of Donald Trump. There have been so many books written about the president and about the Trump presidency. I wanted to tell my side of the story after spending 2.5 years working with the president thought his side I got to see the softer side of the president. I saw the president loves this country who isn't perfect, but he wakes up every day fighting for America and trying to move our country forward and make it better. You said. You saw a softer side of him. Can you give us some examples of that one in particular that was very impactful for me. Personally of I had had a pretty rough couple of weeks been beaten up in the press quite a bit. And one reporter for the L A Times had written a pretty awful piece about me that attacked my appeal. Parents as a mom and was just a really difficult time. And even my own husband didn't know necessarily how to address it and we were in Japan. I was walking into a meeting a bilateral meeting with the president and he had a lot of Maurin important things that he should have been focused on and just before we stepped in the meeting. He stopped me and turned me around and looked me straight in the eye. And he said Sarah You're smart. You're beautiful and the only reason they attack us because you're good at your job. Now Don't let them get you down and he kind of slapped me on the shoulder and said, Now let's get back to work. And that was a moment of the president. Realizing that I was struggling. I was having a difficult day and he stopped us before walking into meat with a world leader toe. Let me know that he had my back and to encourage me and to support me. How do you define the role of the White House press secretary? Well, you're number one objective in your priority is to share the president's message Envision, and his agenda with the American people. What do you think the definition of the rule of a journalist should bay? Well, I I think that there are journalist who should focus on the news and reporting without injecting their bias into their stories. The news should be reporting factual information and letting the reader make up their mind about where they fall on a particular subject. That's great to hear you say that cause that is exactly how I feel that truth. Is really important. And so how do you jive with things like you know what we know, the president said about the Corona virus being a hoax being just like the flu when he is recorded in February, saying This is much deadlier the flu and it spreads in the air and and and things that the American people were not told. How should journalists respond to that? Well, the president started talking about the Corona virus. In January, He actually brought it up in his state of the Union address and took early action to start doing things to protect the American people. He was the one that enacted the China travel ban, which he was widely criticized by Democrats like Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi for doing things that, frankly probably saved thousands of American lives. He also got government out of the way and allowed American companies to really step up and create ventilators. He moat modernized and mobilize those companies to provide communities and hospitals with the resources. They need it. He took it seriously. He did things to help protect American lives, but also protect American livelihood..

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"2.5 years" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

KNBR The Sports Leader

01:31 min | 1 year ago

"2.5 years" Discussed on KNBR The Sports Leader

"2.5 years. What's the reality of that? Find out when we come back. You're listening to protect your assets with David Hollander. That's me will be right back. If you're one of the 1st 10 collars right now, you will receive your very own complimentary analysis called Liberty Group Right now to review your retirement assets. Learn how to minimize market risk and create a comprehensive income strategy for your retirement. 866 Protect to set up your personal appointment to protect your assets team is standing by 1866 Protect. That's 1866776 83 28. 866 Protect 866 Protect 866 Protect. Take the first step toward reaching your financial goals and get the information that can help you live a competent retirement. Call 866 Protect and speak to the Protect your Assets team today. That's 1866 Protect 866 Protect Sort of pro painters knows how important your home is to you. And that's why they're focused on helping to contribute to your peace of mind. They're taking precautions recommended by public health officials to help keep you and the painting teams both safe, and they're doing free remote estimates for painting outside or inside at your home. It's quick, it's safe. It's easy. You can trust sort of pro painters to get the job done right and safely. Each sort of pro painters. Business is independently owned and operated. Schedule Your free estimate online. It's sort of pro dotcom that's sorted with sea sort of pro dot com. Contractor's license number 890529 Fine. With.

"2.5 years" Discussed on AP News

AP News

10:50 min | 1 year ago

"2.5 years" Discussed on AP News

"The first shooting inside the demilitarized zone in about 2.5 years Seoul says several but it's far from the north it's one of its frontline guard posts on Sunday before south Korean troops fired 20 rounds of warning shots in response defense official site there were no known casualties on either side the U. N.,nd says in a statement it's investigating if there had been a violation of the armistice that ended the Korean War the 155 mile long 7 by 6 the Korean peninsula and he's going to buy mines Bob often sees and combat troops on both sides I'm Charles the past month

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"2.5 years" Discussed on The Voicebot Podcast

The Voicebot Podcast

01:47 min | 2 years ago

"2.5 years" Discussed on The Voicebot Podcast

"Learn more about lab work CEO and try out your many wonderful games cool. We have a website which is love works like the company name you can follow us on twitter at lap books on the school because somebody already had the adult. You confront me personally on twitter Tsan and you could email me at Tom at La Bookstore bookstore and yet with generally around. If you're in London I'm always happy to have a coffee on the Alexa slack. If you want to talk to me and the voice pot slacks You can check to be L. Let's right now. Many people know about the voice bots lack. That's Super Mario. I didn't realize that okay. That's okay people who listen to the voice westbound podcast. They really want to be part of the voice about slack and reach out to me in ways that they know how so. That's fine It is a it is an active community but but it is exclusive. And that's what sort of designed to be a Tom. Thanks so much for your time today. I'm Brechin Sela voice spot podcast listeners. Thanks for listening all the way to the end we went a little longer than usual today but I think it was absolutely worth it. This was a great conversation with someone who really knows what they're talking about fun for me to have a little back and forth with someone that I've known for few years in this space. I think we first met in person may be in. Paris are used to go now So that was we'll always have Perez Tom will still in any event you can find me on twitter at Brek can sell a read voiced by Saturday. I will have a wonderful show notes on this and until next week have a wonderful Have a wonderful time enjoying your third party. You're third party voice always APPS and Alexa skills bye bye..

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"2.5 years" Discussed on The Voicebot Podcast

The Voicebot Podcast

14:44 min | 2 years ago

"2.5 years" Discussed on The Voicebot Podcast

"A sustainable business Invest in new experiences The developer would program has definitely definitely changed over the last year or so You know it used to be worth a lot more. I think I was kind of looking at some data. When we first started issues a month was worth about one year thirty a a now? This was about three cents. A you've had to have Faye Pretty Astronomic increase in traffic just to maintain the same amount that you were earning a couple of years ago the kind of the moment. It's this so many things. They're in the way of making it kind of a viable business on invoice the U. X. Checkout flows doesn't work this no advertising mechanism that developers can use. That's kind of a whole load of stuff that I was referring to the facts. The users even realize the content isn't already provided by Amazon awesome. Free like this kind of a load of stuff. And unless you can connective have like a pretty large amounts of traffic or kind kind of you know very patient. Supporters Lay is kind of hard to really justify doing much more than like experimenting hero. That Eh so where does that leave a studio in London. That's making games for Alexa. Well I win go. We're not going anywhere you know. I think there's a kind of data for saying at the moment that we're going through voice winter. I'm not sure that I believe that's a I kind of the numbers are encouraging onto. We've been I would just launching a new kind of approach to In skill purchasing thing where we bundling up all of our skills into single monthly subscription side the premium experience in every skill can be accessed through a single subscription. That has tested pretty well. And you know we we kind of think that that's GonNa be quite a good opportunity for us so I'm pretty I'm pretty bullish on Where this goes in the long term flop works WHY MORE CONCERNED ABOUT IS I? Don't think that anyone that was starting today. Day could follow the journey that we've been on And I don think is going to be able to create. All of the reasons ends that people are GonNa want to use a voice assistant and unless we find a way to kind of fix the economics. You Never GonNa get those kind of talented people coming into the industry and working on it too. I mean we have team of eight that works full-time. That's kind of what you need need. In order to build ready good skills there is no way that developers can get anywhere near the numbers to Make that work at the moment right. And then and then the economics aren't such that you're looking at venture returns regards going to be harder to use. VCD The funding and unless unless they've got a lot of foresight so you think that a studio like yours could have venture style returns turns. I'd say I should think I think so I would. I wouldn't be doing this if I think that was an opportunity here. No obviously league for you. I mean because you don't have to you don't necessarily have the same economic models venture capitalists. WHO's looking for one hundred ten X on their money? You could you. You could have a a much smaller exit and it's still be good for you in the right sort. I don't know that it's exactly the same but And I will say I just want to go back this whole point. There's a I don't believe voice winter so I'm with you. I know it's very popular out there. It's very popular out there. In particular people been in the industry for a while but what I tried to explain the folks is that there are parts of the market that are moving very quickly right now and there are parts. That aren't moving as quickly as they were a year ago. That doesn't doesn't mean the industry has winter. There are sectors that might be that might have a winter or Katcha catch a mild cold is the case may be But I think the pessimism popular right now but Amongst a certain group of people been few years but I I don't see that frankly I actually think as in in some ways a good thing that we're having this kind of Shakeout At the moment I think that the kind of the changes to defend approach towards a is necessary. Think I don't think that particular program is helping developers or incentivizing housing developers to build sustainable businesses. It's ready been around kind of building. Lots of small cheap skills. I'm getting kind of what you come from wallet loss and you know that's not what you do if you're trying to build a sustainable long-term business a And you know I mean so just to in defense of developer rewards. Yes there've been some people who have just been maybe tourists departed the part of the program. Or maybe they've been trying to gain the system but there are organizations like yours and a few others come to mind that actually use that that was the catalyst for them to say yes. I can actually build a business in the space. And they've they've reinvested that those developer rewards into making better skills better experience experience which would be fine if that's kind of how the program works but one of the changes that we kind of observed over the lot. The last year was a tilting of the Algorithm Away from large more engaging skills towards smaller less engaging skills tells a because we have a large portfolio that has kind of loaded content a lot of games and smaller experiments in it with. We're able to kind of measure how that's changed over time and it definitely feels like that. Algorithm moments in its current operation is designed to prioritize hobby developers to leave a couple of hundred euros Not to conserve breath fund studios or people who are trying to you know. Hire people and build a team around it which which is completely defined because there is an argument the studios should be finding a white collar monetize stuff directly But I think has kind of led to a situation web some of the kind of more experienced a voice developers who had been kind of doing this pretty much full time have moved out of the industry now has led to a little bit of kind of loss of confidence in the space. Yeah I think that's absolutely a fair statement and more another example of top down decision making which I don't think is going to abate but thinking about someone who just moved out of the spy out at the space. We had news today recording this on on what days November eighteen nineteen something like that Oh Apollo was acquired by Appro- is acquired by matchbox dot. Io But essentially masback CEO acquired. Apollo's portfolio Leo and the founders. There look look look like they're going to be doing something else you know there'd be more information on that coming forward but you know that's an example of someone who I just decided to get out of the industry You know I mean as personally I'm I'm very happy. Just an Oscar into I'm sure they've done dumb one out of it a Sad for me personally because you know with based in London light based around the corner from my office and I see them fatty frequently Have Breakfast but adjusted cutted added Someone of that kind of like stature. A out of the industry I think is a real shame. And and you know I think it's kind of testament to the fights kinda particularly the skills economy so not the why voice economy but the skills economy. It just doesn't feel like the same kind of gold rush that it once did Now we're kind of really down to the people that like. We made a decision as outlets that we were gonNA really kind of go through go through this and we begun to trump find a way to see the kind of the other side of when lightfoot like contents on voice becomes a ready profitable industry but I I can understand the normal kind of companies necessarily want to do that. Oh candy that Today's interesting like another kind of voice. Judea that was based in London. Good sensible objects the one. The Alexa Gains Challenge. Last year was acquired during the year as well so I think we have kind of particularly in London. Feel like Alike voice family heads. Cutters Shrug Benfits at the moment. So hopefully hopefully that will fix itself. Fatty said yeah data indefinitely grass. Go out to adjust Oscar. They very early and they were doing Alexa skills in twenty fifteen when they were essentially sure before they founded Pirlo and they've been through the sort of a life cycle That we've seen from the ALEXA INVOICE APP ecosystem system up to this point and and really done some some tremendous things Your says she's getting out of the Industry Oscars probably staying in doing something different but You know so good outcome for them to go through that full life cycle. But I think there's a lot of people who've been building who are trying to say we'll do. I really WANNA keep doing this. And you see more of this in like the Alexa slack. Channel conversations. That very early on there was a lot of snow cone. Talk For those of you know Alexis I ah GonNa go through snow cone but There's a lot of talk about the fact that is hard to make money and then that sort of abated for awhile and then it's back with a vengeance now and in some of these other community boards channels so so I think that's a fair point to say that it is hard to make a living voice one way people are definitely making living and is that agency bio you mentioned earlier and beyond that. I think it's tough unless there's a few few people who are doing it maybe succeed. Yeah I mean I think uh-huh in a different shapes economy. You know with our kind of light usage and engagement it would be. We'd be making a lot more than we are right now. intending ongoing anyway the When things kind of change hopefully will be massive Right but so we should. We should go back to this. I mean you're you're clearly optimistic about this space even though you see challenges and so we laid out ten problems plums. And that's that's due now that you've been in the industry for a while. The problems were always very easy. What are the things that you see? That are the evidence behind in your optimism. So I I mean from all kind of perspective. The data that we collect is positive Tiv- See kind of a strong acceleration in usage An engagement and we are seeing traction with in purchasing and I think the two we have a kind of fairly like credible planned concept and strategy for how to kind of execute against that. I think that there are plenty of opportunities for Amazon and Google. Go to turn on the kind of monetization tops. Something that has been missing for a long time is some format of advertising on on the platforms the developers could sell against. And I think if I would expect I don't know anything but I would expect to product like that to arrive at some point because it is an an obvious way for the platforms to make money because they're taking a cut out of everything you know the thing that gives me you know the thing that gives me. Hope is the thing that I know Is the Amazon is really really good at making money and the only anyway that they make money from Alexa is if developers make money and I think that will mean they will find a way to make it work. Okay I got got it. I appreciate your optimism there. I'm not sure that I agree. That that's the only way Amazon's GonNa make money because we already know by off the Because they have Alexa just like it's an endpoint strategies as opposed to a new New Revenue Flows Strategy. But I could see that the key I think Google is probably more likely to play with different monetization models in the near term Because that is their core business us in and they're very familiar with that model they've had success but but this has been great. I really appreciate taking so much time today to in going through these controversial controversial statements. You made I was glad aid. These statements because I mean they're well known in the industry. If you follow anything but you just don't see him you know publicly discussed and so a little bravery bravery on your part could Amazon for following up with you and trying to be thoughtful about it. Hopefully it will google and Samsung and some of the other players. There's apple eventually will be in. The space are are listening as well because this is I think is. is we talking to brand Kareem about this. The other day whatever's happening today. It's still inevitable so the question is whether things are easy today or hard. Today it's inevitable. So how are we setting ourselves up for success. So how can voice listeners..

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"2.5 years" Discussed on The Voicebot Podcast

The Voicebot Podcast

13:45 min | 2 years ago

"2.5 years" Discussed on The Voicebot Podcast

"Is I kind of later. Nature Mudslides Nine or something that people don't even know the skills provided by third party developers and she came. I said well how they if you insist on using Alexis Leaner than you. You know people would be clear that it's distinct from election. I think that's a very valid. Point are particularly in the end of the World Games and in the world of entertainment experiences. Is I can totally see that. But I still think that there is an issue around Utility type skills if I want to build. Oh to skill that tells me when the next tube train in London is about to leave you. Do I really want to have to give that a separate as a used to want to have set From Alexa to tell me when the next train is it's a kind of it doesn't necessarily feel like that's adding to user experience if anything is detracting from it and it kind of feels like but it still feels like that. Developer should be recognized. What is that? Experience should be recognized something coming from third party developer. Ross them from rather than from Amazon itself And so you know. I'd like to kind of Augie that we need to find a way to make clear to us. As when they are. Interacting with third party providers provided content when you're interacting with First Party Light Alexis personality I mean in my kind of like radical Manifesto Vision Asian. I ready believed the Alexis shouldn't have a personality at all And that everything that you ask should be a skill and yes Amazon in could provide a set of baked in skills the Alexis jokes by Amazon. That you can enable but if I want to disable that season in to enable the lap works salty seafarer jokes the with them be the ones if I say Alexa give me a joke like it would give me from the pack. I should be able to do that. I think that that's kind of when future of this is the kind of the the personality of the assistant and should kind of disappear. It should be like a crystal glass. The benefits up to the kind of content providers to to fill in that that would give us a lot more control to personalize that resistant to what they want it to be right. Yeah I understand the point I and I think it's a good one. The one thing I will say is that lack of personality is actually a personality because humans assigned personality to everything and brevity right right so for your productivity skills brevity is in aspect of personality. So it's it's not that you eliminate persona and by the way I was sitting there I was it was in the back of the room for your presentation and I was really kicking myself because I wanted to see the faces of the many many voice user experience designers in the Rome Rome that statement I I could see them from the stage and never a few few few angry angry glares. These are beams coming from there but so I will say that there is I think there is in many cases a conversation or an idea. Put forward around persona that that's really important actually obscures the fact that That they should also be thinking about having a concept action model. And I I mean for me kind of focus on personas. Winter is really like running before you can walk like it's like it's nice. It's definitely like a nice thing to consider when you've got everything else but considering we can't sustain like a long long conversation Without without failing without the use of hitting an edge case without the getting adding frustrated. I think we really need to get back to just fixing the coil you X.. Because at the end of the user just wants to achieve talk that doing and the the signer is a cherry on the top of the cake but they'll happily have the cake without the Cherry Kind of feel like the reason that everybody focuses is an obsesses on China is because it's something we understand already like so much of building for voice is brand new interaction models you know designing with kind of machine learning systems. Something completely new from US designers arm and persona is something that they feel comfortable and it's something that they've beautifully done before Great my skills are still applicable like I can do a persona for assistant to an extent I think the the the platforms particularly Google have encouraged this To make people feel like they can actually do something in that they do. Have some kind of control of the product. But I'm not necessarily sure that it makes that much difference to the user experience the the time would be better On that fixing the broken edge cases fair enough I I I understand your point. I think there is some time that needs to be focused on persona but too often. It's used as an excuse and not enough. Time is spent in the areas that are having a bigger impact today. Well let's go to number nine. So Oh you you just mentioned this referred to this The combat by UVA number nine most people have no idea that voice assistance instance have apps something that we find a lot when we do all kind of research she especially when we do Kinda like very high level. You know do you. You analyze what you use it for like. Even if even if they've played games on Alexa they still don't really understand that like the that game. It is not just like Paul Alexa Came with it. They don't really understand it as the polity develop is is creating content on this. I think this is really really interesting for a kind of a couple of reasons firstly. Yeah I think that there may be a privacy issue that refused to really understand that strings are being shared with the third party developer You know even if as by platforms do they sanitize these like you know. Try and make sure that no kind of pets information leaks. I still think that there're a segment of uses that would probably be horrified to hear that And really takes one bad actor to ruin it for everyone I mean. Can you know Cambridge analytic oversee based in the UK and you made to facebook quizzed Time people really realized like what it was what it was doing. is perfectly plausible. The somebody could build a voice. The collects use data that is completely completely compliant with the current certification policies but could down the line transported to be incredibly problematic. And I think that one of the kind of Better ways to fix this is to make it much much clearer a uses upfront. The data. What data is being shed? Eh Fed up his make sure that they're really clear that everything they say while they're in the session is going to be going to a third party developer. That could do whatever they liked with it at Escott question so When you develop Google action you do not get to use the the baseline Google assistant voices? They give you As which are reserved for third parties as a audible signal to the user whether the user recognizes that I don't think is a different question but certainly there is differentiation. There Amazon does not do that for all the texts speech type. Spilt skills should good Should Alexa only e for first party in they should introduce a variant for third party. That's a great question is not not agonized over because like many ways I think as as a designer as somebody at builds skills for it's it feels very weird to me to kind of you gary from Alexa. Some other random kind of character caracter to to play like truffle so trivia heroin It it takes. It feels very strange. To every time you speak to Alexei. They say like you know Alexa. Play true hero wherever. And then it's kind of like you know actually interacting with Alexa your interacting with someone else. You know particularly in some of our other Games where you're interact light. You're interrupting music. That's playing and you're using the Alexa wake word. But then you're talking to a different character. Rector like it is. It is quite strange so kind of like having a single mental model of an assistant feels on the surface a much better thing but I do take the point that there is no kind of Voices do do make it clearer that the to you on not interacting with Google. I think you could probably we get the same effect with a you. Know an interaction when you launch skill the says Launching which rather by LAP LUXA Talia. Any thing you say join. This conversation will be shed by Edward Are you kidding me. You don't want disclaimers like this. This is this is user experience by lawyers. I think it should be. I think that if we give the the user the option so maybe we can tell them that when they first enable the skill and then after that it's clear that they like what they're using or maybe there's a kind kind of an education piece I think I think there are ways around this. I mean a kind of familiar from the face but having to kind of explain to uses about kind of privacy about privacy settings sometimes as legally mandated things that you have to explain them trying to find a kind of sensible understandable way to do it and I I generally think is possible to do actually It's not easy to do but it is possible. I think it would leads to a much more transparent system that would be easy to trust in the future. Okay well I would have to say. That's not where I thought that Komo was gonNA That conversation was go. What did you think it was going to go? I thought we were GonNa talk about the fact that the platforms should actually explain to people that there are third parties third party APPS or they should create a mechanism to educate the user that not everything is first party however that runs counter to some of their incentives incentives. And we see that because very often they will displace popular third party APPS. First Party capabilities which is the right man? That's that's the platform platform. But they their incentive is to make you aligned with Alexa or Google assistant or bixby their incentive to have other developers on the platform is to have more content more touch points however the the primary incentive is around getting you tied more closely to the assistant relying on it and making that your trusted source regardless of these. These third party players out there so I think they should do it. I think it'd be good for them a to promote third party more and I think that would be good for the developers in the ecosystem but I recognize that that's not really their primary incentive structure structure. Well I think it's interesting. 'cause incentive structure may be changing Because one of the things that we've definitely observed Is when we ask people to punch us in purchases By content is common for them to say priority. Bill bought Alexa device. They kind of understand the content provided by third party that hasn't receive you've didn't receive his share of them. Purchasing the device are if they really want to make monetization were can they want Uses pieces to be more willing to pay content to third party developers. They can take a thirty percent cut. They need to make clear to these. The these people they do need paying because Paul Amazon Google okay. I think that's a really fair point. All right so we should go on to number ten running along here are great conversation love now not not sorry. I'm glad you were able to make the extra time because I've got a foul up after this free but So number ten Dan hotcakes. It's hard to make a living developing for voice yet. It's true nobody unless keeping it. A secret is making enough from in skill purchases to build.

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"2.5 years" Discussed on The Voicebot Podcast

The Voicebot Podcast

17:42 min | 2 years ago

"2.5 years" Discussed on The Voicebot Podcast

"I think one day multi-modal is GonNa be great because it undoubtedly help obsessive discovery. It's souls that at least partially solves that retention Knowing that you could show a a notification or whatever a multi modal device and it wouldn't be disruptive in the same way that the voice notification they anti does help the use of if they get stuck kids. It's very useful to be able to present to the use. The things that they can say if that clearly not getting it but the problem is it's it's just not that widespread at the moment if you've if you're really lucky is like ten percent but you know somebody closer to seven percent this more realistic Listrik and it is a lot of extra work to do. not only is it double the design work because you've got to kind of create designed China's screen for every every voice interaction which requires a completely different set of skills. But you know using proprietary frameworks Sir Like APS which means you have to learn kind of a whole new technology The WANNA mice excited about is he's a Announcing they're going to allow game developers to use HTML Java script to create multi-modal experiences. On at least some of the devices because I think that will allow more people to kind of start creating multi-modal experiences with a much. I lower overhead and yet it's really a case of that kind of the amount of investments that is required For the amount to to benefited gets because even the uses that get about half a screen they can still use the onscreen based experience Said Yeah I kind of I personally believe that. multi-modal is going to be huge huge gap works. I think the the kind of With voice gaming is really based around the TV in the living room. So I know the multi-modal is GonNa be a big thing But right now it's kind of need to see a Amazon. Find a way to alter the incentives somehow to make more worth wild developing multimodal experiences or find a way to open up. The number of years is a million two million to find. TV sticks outlet Finding a way to kind of bring Alexa skills to the four in that in that experience could easily change the kind of the numbers inmate make it much more viable to put resources into building multi-modal experiences A good comment about the fire. TV sticks but also also the. The APP is underutilized in that ecosystem. It's also you mentioned the the html mean that is precisely the approach for interactive canvas from Google Environment. Although Google itself is not doing itself any favors by by limiting what you can do actually on the screen other than text in a few the different types of things on the on the mobile device. It seems to me that this area has not really been thought out. Well enough from a supply standpoint like how we're going by the content and the pro- the problem we've kind of using these proprietary frameworks six. You can only build the experience the to somebody within kind of one of the platform. Companies has envisioned so they find the enabled you certain functionality and that's really really challenging as a developer if you want to do something more or not remember seeing the when they did the APO challenge The competition last year and to in order to somebody heard created created a skill on the back end headless browser that took the generative. Whatever like the dynamic information was and then took a screen shot of that and then sent screen shots to electron? Apr and I was just sick. Is Super Cool that somebody did that but like a crazy that you have to do such a massive work around in all in order to to kind of do something just because it hadn't been imagined whereas as you know using more open technologies ones the kind of been around a while you can be more confident that they support the kinds of things that people are GonNa want today. Ah Yeah it's really interesting. I mean sort of lack of imagination on the part of the platforms could be the biggest barrier to expanding what they actually want which which is more people using these in multimodal environments and. It's not really that food because they can't possibly imagine everything. I To give Amazon credit they often say oh. You know the reason that we need skills is because we can't do this on and you know we like we can't build a full assistant that can do everything us on our own. We need Paul developers to help us. Imagine that specific parts of that but in that case you can go to give us the free rein to be able to do that. You know. It's it's at the moment you like Oscar asking for help and then but you can't do that because is we haven't enabled it because we believe that as east case yet okay so based on the fact that you just said that I'm going to jump ahead number. We'll come back to six and seven okay number in in closed platforms are bad for innovation. Yeah right say the platforms in my opinion. Have too much power at the the moment they they really control everything about the voice. Experience particularly The cut of the bugbear that every developable of certification which is incredibly Paik Process Even even at the best of times and it doesn't really have any differentiation between whether some somebody's first Alexa Scotland learned. They could literally be anyone. Whether it's a multimillion dollar brand. The you know has kind of got a bunch of standards Different things can handle data differently and one part is the kind of like the providence into these rules. I mean you know we've seen in recent weeks the kind of introduction of this rule that when someone says Stop it just kills the skills straight outright and that was something that it's unclear how long that's actually been in the rules but if if it's been awhile it hasn't been a actively enforced and then just suddenly it was enforced to probably in response to this supposedly hacking attempt to earlier in the Arab to exceeding. Come back to your point. But doesn't everyone complain about certification and the IOS and android world. or at least they did now everyone to sort of expects it because it is what it is but like complaint complaint about certification processes is not new to these platforms. It's not needs these platforms but the reason people complain less immobilize all his. Maybe the apple and Google have responded to develop a feat by the I accept the certification needs to exist. Certification is a notionally good concept that it's designed to protect us into ensure quality. What Wa- WHOA? I say what I'm saying. Is that the cert team are no Not Capable of knowing all the possible edge cases that Arou- out there that the decision's GonNa make the lack of transparency in how those decisions are made and the lack of consultation of leads to very frustrating experience for developers. The sometimes feels completely insurmountable. I think about the number of times that like we've had special permission to get round certification because of our kind of status is a major developer on the platform. And like how kind of somebody it doesn't have. That would actively develop for the platform right. I really noticed it. It can be tough and and really just talked about you talked about this idea of stop killing the skill. I mean there's unintended consequences to that stop. Could be part of interaction model in. Yeah well that's why we we have a a game where like the word stop can't getting full matches and so we put in a step said I've heard you say stop do you. Do you actually actually want to stop. Because otherwise it they lose a game session and that that just like broken it and not only that break then breaks with Sewri we like this skill returns unexpected response and still. There's not been any like communication from like the this change was made any kind of any kind of level of consultation with community or even like notifications somebody the FBI. I would've liked. That was going to be a problem. But I'm sure the lots of developers with a flights that it's kind of symptomatic of this point saying that the platforms have so much power but kind of using it using it correctly and if they really want want a vibrant voice ecosystem they need to have more community involvement in the kind of the formation of the certification. Rules are are kind of suggested then the I think this would be an excellent thing for the Alexa champions to to be involved I with it seems like those kind of recognized as community leader does not being myself and of the champion slack. The we we love a good debate about the merits of different certification roles. I think that would be a great venue. The stress testing certification in prices but until kind of Amazon Google kind of engage more with the with the community around kind of what kind of content. What kind of things should appear on these platforms? There's always gonNA be these these people's entire kind of product business being broken. Look for something that they had no idea about. Didn't do yeah. I don't I don't expect to see a shift about him up. Maybe maybe consultation of is as you said could help avoid some of these problems but this is gonNA remain top down a because the companies with these platforms investing lot. It's very important to them strategically they want control. And they're going to overreact. Act is things like the. You know the the labs Announcement around you know which they're kind of hacked but they're not technical hacketts but okay so anyone that watched that video that have been developing for some time was like the that's been possible Ospel the years Nothing special about so I. It's it's it's basically using the the way. The system is designed to to To enact a social engineering attack and that's true everywhere with social engineering so a lot of people are like. Oh this is just so simple Ridiculous no one would ever do this and say well. That's actually spam in in some of these other attacks like fishing actually simple to and they works up okay so let's Let's go to your your next question. You referred to this in terms of Misunderstanding the users where they thought Alexa thought. It'd stop or six Knicks on your hot take is user still struggle to be understood Yep Egypt needs to kind of look out there. The reviews in the skills for pretty much every sale. The main reason skills get negative views a because of recognition issues. Angie see that what time it again in USA testing as well the the reason these kind of long multi conversations copy sustained is because of recognition issue is is not is not due to copywriting abide concept or whatever is because he gets fed up of not being understood. I guess while I've gone out to this. You know the the we wouldn't be where we were today if if we hadn't seen the kind of massive bounces that we have in speech to text that that's kind of what has enabled this kind of explosion an old Voice Assistance Voice. I know that it's kind of voices existed for like a long time before that. But what's really kind of a caused at this particular. Moment was the arrival of much much better speech to text. Didn't need specific training but the problem is it doesn't the handle Conversation interrupted the number times sitting against a testing session. What should you start speaking while Alexis speaking speaking blithely colleagues on speaking and then opens the microphone halfway through the uses utterance and then picks up some nonsense instances. Sarah didn't understand G it's like Lychee every third interaction. That seems to happen until you can breath find technology or way to fix that. Recognition is always going to be poor a lot in real world. Scenario is kind of the thing the thing about recognition is the Corolla using tie you. Oh you if the platforms can make real world recognition better. It will make every single skill action better without the developers. Having having to do anything it's going to be able to keep out doing things at scale it's the kind of thing that moves the needs alone absolutely everything else without any other changes and I really want to see a kind of a doubling down on fixing this particular bit because it feels like we're never going to have a properly functioning voisey consistent Into until we do that I brought her in a way that we kind of forgot about how multi-modal whatever until we can get the voice. Bits of it right I. Yeah that's a really interesting point. Given the the the revolution has been so successful in speech attacks and the recognition is really tremendously. Good compared to what we've had in the past but but when we think about a conversation you know is ninety five percent good enough and this inability even if you think about like human conversations people talk about with the idea that human conversations humans miss three to seven percents of words and meaning. But we don't have the Bargin the problem with human conversations a lot easier than resolve these things and so making more conversational would be interesting. I do want to an end point detection as well. You know so Letting the letting the developer say when you have collected enough information we often find the to the systems. The systems automatic endpoint detection leaves it too long and then the use of repeats themselves. Will you think that the thing isn't working and starts Kinda on of saying something else so trying to ask help or whatever an again. If they had been feeding developer the utterances it came through. It's a great I need. Let's move onto the next step in the conversation right. Instead of sending you the payload at once progressively. Yeah that'd that's an interesting idea like that. Okay so the next thing that we have on the list number seven probably the one I heard the most negative feedback about Shuna Probably you did to maybe not persona. Shouldn't be a priority unpack that for me. Yes I I like as soon as cut off the stage at for Levin came up to me and said I was gonNA. I was GONNA ask a question but I didn't want to ask it in in front of everyone because I didn't WanNa make you look silly. And then kind of went into a very fair point in front of the voice audience. This is great great. Well I I am happy to up to where I don't know enough to say she made the point..

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"2.5 years" Discussed on The Voicebot Podcast

The Voicebot Podcast

14:45 min | 2 years ago

"2.5 years" Discussed on The Voicebot Podcast

"So you really. We do need a team of people in order to do this. A unfortunately a team of people need paying. And there's gotta be some kind of way of making that possible Okay so when when we talk about this idea that it's not as easy as looks you're saying that relates right back to this idea. This was not enough reasons because it's hard we have. Yes we're we're not finding some of these multi term conversations. It would really be rich experiences or lead to higher levels of productivity those types of things. I mean if you if you use a skill action whatever of any length of time you come you will inevitably hit a point. Hit tonette case hitter on past interaction and it does kind of ruin the experience and they're like the kind of the first offer that you can get the person into a multi. Conversation without fail without failing is kind of a mark of how how good your wrapped is like A. I think that you know the the reason the much Jesus doesn't really Kinda used skills is because they don't work properly but the the problem is that they don't work properly because it's really hard to build one that works properly eight. We'll even if you find one that works properly. It's often hard potentially to remember what that skill name was. This is things that related to what you're talking about. I think in your third point which was if you build a voice APP Lexus. Go chances his are no one will see what you made. Yes absolutely I mean. I think it's our pulled some stats that of the nearly nine thousand skills in the voice voice games category in diverse European skill stores. Any one half of them had three views and light Five K. had total MUSTY skills getting published. And then not kinda getting seen a toy stores even worse because yet it is impossible to know what's in there at all that means that the kind of the only way of getting discovered at the moment is with with Amazon and Google kind of picking picking winners Through cut a promo on the front page an emails and you know the marketing teams are doing the best that they can to kind of keep this system system going but there's a much greatest systemic problem Anat Anat. She is for for interesting going around on twitter today. A large number of skills Somebody had done some research lauch or skills out on the platform the quite clearly violating One of Amazon's policies about requesting five-star reviews the the just published and anyone. That's an active developer We'll know the often get hit by stuff. In Certification Nation of the rule. Changes the point that you go through certification but you know there were these mass number of skills the because they are not being actively maintained and then not being kind of updated. I sub optimal experience is allowed to kind of persist based on the platform. And that makes it much harder to discover the kind of quality stuff that is being actively maintained if you ever advertised to drive awareness awareness of yours. Yes we tried. We tried facebook advertising In particular because I knew a little bit about how it works are are. We try to be quite small and used the Cadillac fancy functionality. The hasn't stuff and didn't really see anything meaningful from it Setting off for kind of budget involved but you know the big problem with appetizing is attribution. You he really have no idea whether it's working on because there's no easy way of showing a like on facebook and measuring whether Cut if a user uses you'll skill came did site because because of the ad because there's a lot of variance on a day to day a basis in skill usage anyway is just impossible to really Hunches when we've followed up with attesting that doesn't doesn't seem to be the right way to cut through at the moment You know the best thing for developer is to cross promote your own skills. Sir are within the platform because at least you know that people are on the device into using the device might be likely to use another another skela. That point are any really works. If you're a large develop that has multiple skills that you can recommend people around So discovery discovery is even harder. If you smoke. I've seen some evidence that advertising does were One of the things that works if you advertise in context so streaming music Zik or radio. That's actually being broadcast through Alexa. Erdan last super interesting. So I mean Lena Fascinated to know more about that too which says is in kind of light? How are you targeting through that? Well there's a number of different people who enable bill you to target users on those devices because they know when they're feeds are going to to different types of smart home devices and so they can do a dynamic insertion add At that time there's other ways you can do it as well and it and we can talk about another time time but I think that that's that's most obvious one that works some people have had. Yeah I mean it's a it's a I mean. Sending sounds plausible. Because it's kind of the same as I'm saying that the best place to advertise your skills is at the end of your other skills because people are on. The device seems logical the another reasonable price advertise. It would be in in stream. Maybe that's something that's not available in the UK that is available in the US Cetinje I haven't come across it here. I think I did look into its at one point. Yeah I think I think it's available at the very least yet you can do it with flash briefing switch. You can't advertising is in our popular There are a couple of product launches. It was earlier this year and France. That were really focused on that and these were like big brands that we're doing some promotion through flash briefings briefings and so I wanted to. I think might be interesting. An interesting question about that. is how the kind of economics on that stacks up. I would be interested and surprised if you were able to buy in AD On channels that would be sufficient to sustain. Stay no kind of Top funnel to the extent the Yeh people would buy in skill puch saying to at a right the would pay for it. I mean I don't maybe maybe I don't know I mean if you talk to the people who Amazon promotes for in scale purchasing. They talk about these wild conversion rates. The we've never seen before mobile now. We actually peel get me started on the numbers because the way the way that qualitative wanted If he did that. Number is almost always quoted as the conversion between Someone asking a hearing up so and doing a purchase so that somebody that is in the hundred questions cost zero nine thousand nine like would you like to subscribe or would you like to buy. Yes you know like now already in the purchase flow. I mean it's to me. It's amazing that it's not hundred. Yeah you know what. Like someone's Lychee one step away the ought to do right yes to purchase the thing like a God. One of my big bugbears around particularly monetization is the data is weak and the kind. The marketing numbers are not necessarily reflective of divided experiencing fee chat to any of those people in the conversion. If you were to ask them. What's your conversion rate from new use? A role Funnel used to instal purchase. That not GONNA GONNA be ten Forty percent right. That's absolutely right when you peel it back and you have the conversation you realize that it's really bottom of the funnel people and so I mean it's on a power with mobile. At least a day to show is the this is one of the things is kind of easy because we have a lot of pieces and along the data we can kind of guess. The auditor is roughly approximate of the market. And we see it's kind of on is comparable to mobile. So it's not horrible. It's it's kind of like way you would expect it to be. But I've yet to see any kind of proof that conversion rate on voices significantly better than it is a mobile. The I'd say that's probably right. So what are you. What are you saying? It's like point five to like one percent something like that isn't a bit more than that. The cutting tool can light. Maybe two to three somewhere around that okay. Great so enough on modesty Iran conversion. Maybe we'll come back to that a minute but we ing with almost skipped over number four which I alluded to a moment ago? which is your fourth hot take is even the users who love you will forget you exist? How can that be well so one of the great things about Voice is the doesn't have a voice voice assistant. They don't have many external triggers. They're very much. A USA led a device for most people that own A SMART Speaker without the screen in really the only information it can convey apart for like visually you're when you're interacting eighteen with it is lighting up the Light Rain Oh showing a little. Led And we know From the hooked model from in kind of Psychology external triggers play a huge part in habit formation on and because assistance. Don't really have these It's very hard to get people to form a habit around around the product to the moment I mean there are people that have done it well so it's not impossible to do I mean in question a day Oversea works while during that. But but it's a lot harder than it would be on mobile and and that means the it's it's difficult just because she build a good experience doesn't mean the news is enjoy. It doesn't mean gene. WE'RE GONNA keep coming back again and again. So what are the options. So I think there's a there's a there's a few options I personally personally would like to see a more joined up strategy with the mobile APP. say that that was an option to send notifications to the mobile APP. You know it always makes me laugh. The ferrall the kind of importance in store that set by multi-modal the the the APP is very much a Kinda forgotten child Even though it's like the one screen we know every US actually has. I would love to see them doing something around. Notification Edification said 'cause it's a good space receive notifications. I think that there there's also auctioned to kind of rediscovery so when you're engaging along with Alexa the Alexa might say okay. Great United Offset a timer for ten minutes. Could potato isn't says great. Were like well. That time is running. Would you like to play a round of true or false opportunities unity's to kind of reintroduce skills that you've already told it that you like right so relying but then in that case you'd be relying on Alexa Circa to do this proactive notifications based on the user behavior as opposed to something. You have control over. Yeah I I mean the reality Z.. Of Developing for assistance is that you are reliant on the assistant us very much kind of piggybacking on on the assistant the Amazon Google providing. In if you don't like it Kononov right platform fees to develop unfortunately that that is kind of the Future is that the assistant to GonNa be the mediators. They're gonNA decide when to notify people that GonNa decide what content is the the the right stuff to introduce you know as a content provider or you can do is try and produce the best possible content in the hoop loop. The you're the one they recommend. I think this is something that maybe it's a bit easier for me from a content backgrounds particularly from working in digital digital content for period of time where we used to think a lot about SEO fooled. Oh if I wrote this article in the right way it. We'll definitely be on the first page of Google. What you knew if you kind of consistently quality content across all of your Across your entire a portfolio your entire website. You would see decent such traffic which is exactly how it was born out in. It's kind of the same with Alexa. Google legal assistant my opinion. You build good skills. They will flip to the top okay. We could talk about that for another twenty minutes but we are. We're not going to because had take number five is multimodal is twice the effort for not many users yet as kind of.

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"2.5 years" Discussed on The Voicebot Podcast

The Voicebot Podcast

08:39 min | 2 years ago

"2.5 years" Discussed on The Voicebot Podcast

"It is everything everything is a be tested and they have a really simple effective system for how they kind of manage that. So tis possible to run tests really really quickly ineffectively on and that means that you can kind of its rate at a much much faster speed zied another example they have obviously massive localization challenge. I mean one of the reasons that with so good localization that we're able to support all the languages Alexa does is. Because I was familiar with how they did it and I was able to kind of build our process of a were what they did. Which means that when we kinda update brought large amounts of that prices automated? which is what you really need to be able to kind of make large scale changes across your products in multiple languages all at the same time? Yeah that makes that makes complete sense now now. AB testing in the voice APPs pesos has some challenges because certification processes so. How are you doing that? Well so I think AP testing is is completely valid to test dialogues test flow. Is I mean the the big issue you run up against his statistical significance. Go to be doing things that you're actually going to get a meaningful measure from an that's no easy for mice developers because developers don't have have enough traffic to do that. Now we're unusual. We're in a position where we can't do that In the right places I always think that would ab testing the. It's kind of one of the things some situations it's really east from ready applicable. So if you're thinking about how to Mayes my a you purchased flowed to kind of make it as effective as possible. Asa Really Nice kind of challenge but at the kind of stage that most is people are in in the voice industry. Just doing us. A research Very well as they do an awful lot to usery reese such me. Every week we had like a day that was basically dedicated to doing US research and talking to customers and testing the prototypes. We're building customers. An you learn so much more about how to do stuff when you're at that stage in the process where you don't really know what you're doing. AB testing is much much more. Relevant when you've got some clear hypotheses and you're like I could either do this or I could do that. Let's measure which one's better and I feel for most most of us Komo news time and a voice industry was still not kind of first phase thinking. I don't really know what to do like I'm not exactly sure what the options even are here. Use Research is probably the most useful way to go that I would i. Would you know anyone that developer this listening I would would encourage you to look at Testing before you worry about. Ab testing got a great advice. Great advice appreciate that Okay and you have some other learnings that we want to get to these are the hot takes the presentation from all about voice. I understand that you've done. A may be formal or semi formal memo to Amazon Sense. Yes shout Addison. They could have a they saw this talk and you know they they took it on board auden asked me to kind of fully right up a memo based on this that they could take it away and discuss it on which I thought was really nice that they it kind of at least accept that there are some issues in the kind of the skill development. Economy a underpin to kind of feedback and seeing how it should work You know that's much more than like haven't seen any kind of engagement from Google Samsung on that subject shout to Samsung Constantly like messaging me the whole time or that kind of hot and messaging me the whole time saying. Please bring your skills to to bixby but with if no like monetization path and then we've got a competition you can win if that thousand dollars. It's I it right like you don't really understand what it takes to build a business on a on a voice platform if you think that's going to kind of incentive Well I guess everybody was his done contests since that's part of it but yes I understand that point okay. Well let's let's get into it and and yeah shout out to to Amazon Andrea. Bhutani did a great presentation that morning at the all about voice conference there were some other people there. Google was there. There was representation across the voice ecosystem and throughout Europe people from in many different countries in Europe so it was a great crowd. But you started out and I have my notes here from your presentation so hot take number one and these are the the things you've learned. I think you see that up what I've learned over two and a half years in voice. Is that correct right where my hot takes based on two and a half years what can invoice so you. Don't get into an Hoffy. Coffee is at cheap. But renouncing down for philanthropy showing okay. You're you need to work on your micro. That's fine okay. We'll work on your your your headline writing so number one. Not Giving people enough reasons to use voice Explain right so for most people the the have a smart speaker. It's really just a fancy clock radio that tells you the weather. I'm not that is useful. But but it's hardly a paradigm time shifted. It's kind of an incremental improvement and I believe that for voice to become kind of a central part of people's lives You know saying early for voice to be the main modality that we interact with technology. We really need to move beyond kind of fault. Fault sounds in fact skills. Those kind of single shot interactions and into multi turn conversations and that is where the value lies invoice and I don't see enough developers providing that at the moment a are you providing that I like to think so I mean our games a multi. Turn you you know. We have people that play for ten hours a day. I mean arguably ten hours a day is too much but we do have long session times up offended twenty minutes half an hour you know. It's it's that that to me is a valuable voice experience. I think that's fair. So okay focused mostly on games. Maybe exclusively games is that correct. Okay yes I mean. We did experiment with a few other things time like we did on this day skill skill. What you could ask Alexa? What happened on this day in history eaten? We've done a few different things over over time but in the end we decided to double down on games names unknown entertainment experiences. Because that's where we felt we could add the most value with all kinds of backgrounds and expertise got okay so this idea of reasons huge. It should voice so entertainment is one of them. There's some productivity tools like timers and alarms. We have other information as you mentioned whether her and then the most popular thing is some different types of audio whether it be streaming music or sometimes radio depending on the country Are there other areas that you see that are great reasons to use voice. It just hasn't been explored yet by developers. I think that all grey areas but normally normally where they haven't been explored. It's because there's a reason for that on which kind of gets on my second slide It kind of two parts to it. One is even not possible at the moment. Because if the white platform works vacation rules or whatever or as I a second slide is because she. That's really hard to do I need I. I think that's the bit for me. That is missing in the voice industry at the moment is very strong incentive with all of the kind of platforms to say. Hey It's super easy to build a captial and action and the skill to come along. Give it a go which which is great for like bringing people in its. How is you know I was able to get started with something nice and simple but the problem is that the market has matured since then and to build a really good voice experience?.

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"2.5 years" Discussed on The Voicebot Podcast

The Voicebot Podcast

13:43 min | 2 years ago

"2.5 years" Discussed on The Voicebot Podcast

"And a content designer he spent time as a digital editor for lonely planet planet and as a content strategist at facebook here in a masters degree of political journalism and TV production from the City University of London and an undergraduate degree in economics from the the University of Sussex now to the interview okay voiced by listeners. I've a special missile treat for you today. Tom Hewitt's has been on the podcast before he was kind enough to participate in the year end review of twenty eighteen. He's back it's not quite year the end of two thousand nineteen but we have the chance to catch up in Munich at the all about voice conference Shout out to 169 labs in their work on. That and Tom gave a presentation in the afternoon that I thought was really compelling and is I was sitting there listening to it and I said Geez this is just the type of talk that a lot of the listeners. Listeners voice bought podcasts would really appreciate Tom Is CEO. As I've said from lab work CEO Tom hewison welcome to the voice about podcast. Thanks for having me on lost. It lasts what we've had you've been on you've been on but we didn't really talk about lab works last time and so we probably should. I probably should just Set it up so that people understand before we get into the hot takes and things like that. How did you first get started invoice? You're originally trained as a journalist right. Yeah that's why I started my career as a journalist to newspaper in the UK. Called the Telegraph and I worked to media for several years as a writer and in an editor and then you kind of make the transition into TAC And I I did my own startup And then after that went to facebook where I worked in the design team And then Charles became a big thing and I thought to myself. Hey this is a an interface the is composed solely of words and I am a designer and I know how to write. This is GonNa be a great opportunity chief Mesa I decided to strike out. Ns Setup lab works INITI- Chapel consultantcy an advised kind of various brands like Unilever believer and Donna in etc and then Alexa came to the UK. And I thought this is. This is pretty cool And I really want to find out what it's like so I decided to spend a long weekend kind of hacking together. A little project checks which was again cooled. Would you offer and I hacked together. This game And then put out there and promptly forgot about it and then about six weeks later I got a phone call from someone Amazon saying hey do you realize this is the third most popular thing on our platform and I had no oh idea at all because I hadn't even bother to any analytics on it. I mean I was really lucky the Hobie Dino so I wasn't paying for otherwise probably switched golf and I realized that I kind of accidentally created this viral hit and even better the Addison said you know we have this program developer awards at. We're going to pay to maintain the skill and I and I kind of alluded to the numbers. I saw But if I grow the traffic a bit more than perhaps I could do this full-time working on my head and so I kind of worked on a bit more and I managed to do that but suddenly I was making enough that I was able to hire someone else and then between us we gripe to make another game which was false and then Saturday we make enough money? We're able to have several people and then we were able to build more gains trivia hero. Would it kind of grew from there. Now we're a team of eight from that which I think probably makes us the largest indie developer studio in Europe. Certainly and yet you know. We fairly sizable we Have a skills in every language that Alexa supports reports were in twelve countries. And you know we have about five million uses Pretty sizable developer on the platform. But one of the things that I think differentiates us from a lot of the other people that develop on the platform Develops on the platform kind of break down into three three categories. There's people that are doing agency stuff that kind of selling brands or whatever and they are trying to kind of make make money from getting branded content onto Alexa then you've got to the Hobie developers and they offer a large experimenting with technology. It's kind of fun. It's a bit of interest is a cool thing to do. Basically how I started out on on that kind of catered for with defender per awards program. And then you've gotta ask I like to call the studios the people that are kind of trying to foam voice. I voice I consumer businesses so we're trying to build voice I products and monetize them directly into for us. We we kind of really care about in our purchases and about other ways of monetize such as advertising existed and so I guess another the other thing. That's kind of been interesting. I've probably been on a bit of a journey over the last few years thinking about. How do we monetize choice experiences? How do you build a sustainable business on voice And yet and I think that that's kind of leads to a quite distinct perspective effective. That's may be different from many of the other people in the industry. Yeah Fair enough because you started. Well I guess you started as is an accidental hobby slash business finesse and then tried to turn it into a business but it seems like you really didn't know much about Alexa. I mean you're a journalist. Usually I would expect you to research things before but you just threw something out there and someone on had proactively reach out to you and say working I send the check. Yeah I mean I'd I'd say that that's that's quite fair. I think that I'd learned during my time. Cutting Design the best way to learn about something was to build something with it in fact the reason and I built would you rather in the first place was because I was doing this consultancy business and so people are GonNa ask me about Alexa eventually and I better do some research. Lisa should build something on it so that I can talk credibly about it. So yeah I was just reading the initial research turned into a product straightaway. So since you started doing chap were before we get into sort of the main line discussion. I am interested in understanding your perspective on the difference between chat bots invoice. Yeah so it's it's really funny because I initially thought chat bots were great and I do in many ways. They always felt like there was something missing and I couldn't quite figure out what it was until I came across Alexa. And then and then it was just so so obvious. The friction of using a chapel is just really really high to type A message takes like twenty twenty thirty forty taps and even in a badly designed APP. You can do it in a transaction. A fraction of that it was just a is just taking too long and all the good things that you have a conversational interface. The no need to use. It doesn't lead to learn a new mental model. They they kind of already understand. How have a conversation unfortunately was being outweighed by the additional friction? When voice came along? I was wow. This is the answer because on voice there is no friction. It's quicker to speak than it is to tap a button so it was kind satellite chat bots but without the friction that that's kind of why as soon as I started to see some success with Alexa decided it's Kinda doubled down on it out to the chocolate space entirely straightaway. Yeah that's interesting so your expectation is there's going to be a lot more a voice choice apps voice interaction voice assistant work and there's going to be chat bots. Yeah absolutely absolutely I I I mean I'm the kind of person that dictate take my slack messages. I tasked the people vs a keyboard for on a computer. I do. I do with my voice so I I kind of. I really strongly believe that voice is going to be the primary input method verb you know. Almost all interactions with technology. Autry you will keyboard dead but you will use it to kind of editon do some of the other other tasks of but it wasn't necessarily be the primary the input method anymore. Yeah so I didn't realize you could dictate slack messages. Set a Plunkett. y'All my fine I did. I did G board and it works. Great Anway top of productivity Reading slot messages. Dictating the volleyball on your walk. In the morning it gets me through that radio Yeah brilliant brilliant. Okay so just a couple of quick things You're trained as a journalist. Do you think your background in journalism influences. The way do you think about maybe voice but also the work. You're doing at the studio so I think the thing that I know coming from media background is just how important contents Dante's I know the really the thing that the people here for is content and everything else is just a delivery mechanism content And you know particularly drink are used to work at a guidebook Publish Cooled Lonely Planet and editor there and I used to deal with commissioning and stuff and thinking a lot about how this kind of contact commissioning process work is super applicable to voice. Because that's where you're gonNA get these premium experiences. Let's is no is no by a hobbyist developer writing better dialogue on the side. It's about getting a kind of voice over actor it's about getting cut is someone. That's a well known expert. It's about getting high quality. I pay into voice and I personally think my background in media. It gives me a kind of a good head stall in doing that because I already know how to interact with people in those industries and kind of what. What motivates them right okay? So that's really interesting background. This idea of content in delivery and I I have heard I have heard this conversation trying to think Who who I worry? I heard this. I think it was Bonded FM was talking about this and thinking about Alexa more as youtube than is some sort of Chat Bot interface and thing about it is really a content delivery mechanism. That's absolutely right. Yeah that is absolutely right. The kind of Alexa Access And Google actions are primarily content delivery vehicles unity. The format may be a conversation. But but really it's about delivering that content about delivering that information. Whether it's a story or a bit of kind of information that you can use to do something thing It's really about that content. That's what matters got well shout out to John Ghulam for I bring. That's my attention in terms of that model. I thought it was interesting. Take and I wasn't obvious at the time this was a couple years ago but I haven't this other foul question so you're also at facebook so Akron content media as a juror in in journalism as well and content strategy. Then you your facebook and what did you learn there. And how does that influence the way you think about the space. Say the two things Sir I go for from Vice One. Really good at writing micro copy So I used to write kind of button texts and the kind of stuff. The appears in the in the APPS you know if he introduced a new feature or whatever I used to kind of specialize in some of that stuff that that made it That really helped me When I was Kinda thin writing chapels and stuff to be much more a person you know you X.? Focused guest the traditional journalists would be I think the other thing. They taught me ready while was just how to build things scale said how to kind of think about doing things at scale like Journalists inmates you write an article and that's like a done one thing and then it's Kinda gone whereas facebook is very attractive organization. Where you're always trying to kind of find a way to change the product to make the kid better to increase engagement? Whatever the objective is to kind of do that in a way that has the largest possible possible impact? I think that that was really really helpful. So give me an example of something in terms of facebook's ability or focus on thinking scale scale The aren't while you were there. And maybe how you apply that yes. I think the thing that I really liked about cut how they do stuff..

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