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How Will Al Horford Impact 2021-22 Celtics & Max's New HC Candidate

The Cedric Maxwell Podcast

27:48 min | 3 months ago

How Will Al Horford Impact 2021-22 Celtics & Max's New HC Candidate

"Alkane me several times Max what what should I do? You need to talk to these guys and so I hope the elves able to do that he has to respect to do that, but will he do that? I think that's a whole nother thing and now that you have a new coach, well, that coach insist that L is able to do that. A big girl love that. She Your your mouse control on your Wi-Fi. All right, so let's check the podcast. I'm Joseph Momo, he is Cedric, Maxwell, emergency podcast. That's why Max is pulled up in his web somewhere outside the crib. Yeah. Doing a little shopping today. You know for Julie go I can get a bunch of hot dogs to put out on the grill and celebrate. This wonderful day. That Biden is created for us. Absolutely happy Juneteenth. Max happy Juneteenth to everybody. Boston Celtics, fans are pretty heavy the end of this week because familiar faces coming back. That's Al Horford. Trade-in from the Oklahoma City Thunder in exchange for Kemba Walker. This year's number 16 pic, of course, in the first round and there's something in return, also get an out and again, mostly Brown, which I think is a a good deal for the Celtics right now. A good first step in the right direction from the new subjects, president of basketball operations, Brad Stevens. But Max would, You think, what do you think about this deal? I mean, you to bring back out, we know what I was before, you know, when he was in Boston, but now he comes back into a new team, a new situation here, how do you feel about it? Well, you know, you're not getting this email, this is an older player now, but I think he's still very serviceable. What you want to do set pics in the locker room presence, I think is good. He can walk in the floor by shooting the jump shot and the best thing I like about is he can defend the basketball. So if you can get that from now and then you know you can get twenty-five thirty minutes a game, you know, you would I would absolutely love that. I mean I just think it's a culture move, right? I mean, we talked about this a couple of weeks ago when the Celtics season came to an end, like they need to change the culture. And I think when it comes to playing hard-nosed defense and putting forth, the rep effort that we know the scene can put forth. Do we start it stretches? Who just didn't see a consistently throughout the course of the regular season, then you're gonna see a different team. I think Al is that kind of guy who can before the right message, but make sure everyone is dead. Hold themselves accountable and the defensive end Maggie, you know, see what you do. Buy it. No, I'm not really buying that. I think he was that before. He's going to be the same guy. Now we know the numbers show me the same numbers here in L did not hold people accountable. And that's one thing I talked about in the fact that he should have been maybe in that position, being a guy who was the leader on this team who was a star on his team holding guys more accountable. You know, his voice was not her alkane me. Several times has Max. What what should I do? You need to talk to these guys and so I hope the elves able to do that he has to respect to do that, but will he do that? I think that's a whole nother thing and now that you have a new coach, well, that coach insist that L is able to do that. I don't think he's the kind of guy gets in people's faces, but when he leads, by example, when he's anchoring the defense dog, Night in and Night Out basis. I think it resonates Max, that kind of that kind of approach is not only something that everyone wants to see. And at least by, you know, everyone's going to follow. But it's almost like someone took Williams, never going to forget how or Grammy talked about that at media day before, starting the season, how he was a mentor to him, how, you know, behind closed doors. And that was a guy that made sure that he was always doing. All right, you know? Obviously, when he was dragged all the time or drugs, I mean, he got that nickname for the wrong reasons, right? And how offered immediately, stepped in there, it was a mentor to him. So now you see him two years later. Obviously, Robin Williams is a much better player at this point, but at least get you out to help them through these stages here through this crucial Seasons, especially this group All Season. You know, this this transition to and so, essentially a new era, write a new head. Coach gonna come in here sooner or later month and if you ask me, I think someone like Jason Taylor probably had a say in this early said he was asked about it said, you know what? Yeah, well, let's see how back in the scene, you know, he's another guy who said that the media day after our birth. Laughs. He was like, man, I hope is one of my favorite teammates, you know, I was a young Jayson Tatum, were two years removed from that but I would love to see what happens how he can make him a better player, of course, and the rest of the team. Well, you and I are going to agree to disagree. I think Al is going to be good for this team, but I think when it comes to being vocal and leading, by example I will do that. But this team also needs one of these guys, a veteran guy who's going to get in somebody's face and be vocal and be that guy who's going dammit, we don't take this off. And that's not who else is as a player. And I respect that. So I don't look the L to come in and grab people by the throat. And said, this is what we're going to do, but if you leave off example, I will be satisfied with that. Let me ask you this. Max did the brand pull the trigger too quickly here. I mean, do you think that he could have stopped him around a little more? Could he had gotten a better deal than what we're seeing right now? Cuz some people are saying, well, maybe that offer or maybe that package deal could be away for you a week or two later down the road, maybe that was something. You do what all the other ones, you know, all the other details, you try to put together strike out too many things going on right now. You know, take the first thing that's gonna mean you're able to unload that contract with Kimber, you've done that. Now, you've got a pretty good big piece coming back and helped hook in the film the basketball. So why wait, talking about? Let's let's wait to do this this way to do that. And that was one of the complaints that everybody had about Dani h o, n, e has all these draft picks, he's not using them, it's not off the bus came in and immediately used some leverage and went in to make a made a deal. And for the most part, I think people are happy about, you know, I promised your Kim was not happy. About it because he loved his team. He loved this organization and let's say this about him. Perfect player. Perfect gentleman. It did not work out for him physically because Kimba started to wane with his body. Not being able to play every day and not give a contribution like that, but I enjoy Kimba as a player. I enjoyed them as a person and what he did for the scene, I think that you can't measure it in words. What happens? Next? Max who's going to be the point part of this team? Did you turn it to? You get the keys, Demarcus, hard to leave this office. Do you look for a secondary point guard to come in here? I mean, either way, they're a little thin back there in that backpack. How does on Brad Stevens address that regards I think are easier to get this. Like so you'll see guys like Reggie Jackson's out there in the world. You'll see got the last night and last name is that way to The Bigs are harder to get. So I think a point car in this league a lot of guys out there who, you know, still want to play, you said you'd think about Isaiah Thomas wants to play. I don't know if you want him back as a starter but I think he could give you quality minutes. So there's a lot of guys. You can get to a point guard plate before you got your guys who are big, so I think that will address the self in due time. I know we talked about this seems like every summer but like this time, I mean, he's getting DMVs now you know, the Clippers aren't even putting in games at this point in the series. Well do you get Rondo for the future? You think and I think what you're looking for some guys who want to help you with your future going to be here. Long-term, if you look at Rondo right now, I think you could come in and do the job but I'm only going to be a one year, maybe maybe two years at best, a guy who's going to be around. So, I think you want to invest in a guy who's going to be around and who's going to grow with Tatum, is going to grow a brown. So there's a lot of different things going to happen. You have some more flexibility under the salary cap because maybe Kim has gone. So so there are some things I think you're able to do and you know, freaking us out there who could you could possibly grab and hold onto these episode of the Cedric. Maxwell podcast brought to you by betonline.ag metal line. Is the fastest, and easiest way to bet on all your Sports Action. Yep. Paul might be over but NBA in the NHL are in full swing. 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I mean I just I'm almost surprised if the Thunder put them in this dead. I mean, I would I'm not surprised that they stopped him, but I'm just kind of like if you're the Celtics. I just I don't see a trade that you get more value for Kemba Walker than this. I mean, you get a young prospects. Twenty-three years old, who has shown potential this season. I mean, he he slapped nine ball with a nine blocks night. Grab 19, rebounds and 1/2 against the southeast. So, they know better than anybody that this guy has not only potential. He can ball, you know, On Any Given night. How do you feel about someone like that coming in when you have Robert Williams essentially playing that same role? Well, the thing I like about the facts, the statue gave, but that was the one off when you think about those number of rebounds, he's able to get. You had 19 rebounds in 1/2 and only got four more for the game. Something's going on there. I think he is, he's physically, right? It would take it away. And yeah. Yep. He's a big guy. He can do a lot of different things, but I just want to again just be more cognizant of what this team has and that's what are the next moves right now. And the most important right now is it coaching Carousel? Who's going to be that guy? Who's going to come in and do the job as a coach? I don't think that he can talk about all these other things right now. But until you go out and get the guy who's going to coach your team and knowing what kind of players he wants in that system, you know, that that is the most important thing. So it's have to do who are some of the new name that you like or has anything changed in your opinion? Who who's your favorite family right now? Well, my favorite is trying to fix the guy that page talks about smart Jackson, but here, here's my thought, you a dark horse. Throw your name out there that nobody's talked about and huh udoka? Yep. Oh no, no no. Not like I'm I'm going to go with a former Celtic who was around who coached for a while and the coach has nothing to do the again with Coach has to be black. I love this way. Things were, where we going to gas back and forth, but Bryant but Bradshaw the guy that nobody talked about that is Coast. Don't know how long that play with the subject. It has the intellect, he's done. He's dealt with Kobe Bryant when he was in, you know, young Stars, early on in L. So he's another name that people haven't talked about that, could be out there in the only reason I say that the coach has to be of colors because of the situation that have more brand that I've always, you've talked about this before saying that this team needs some people of color and especially upper management. Well, you decided that you wanted to the service decided they wanted to hire brand and I'm home. Okay with that. Because this is the owner of a team. I think you should be able to get a choice of, you know who you want to, you know, direct your team, I like that. But by doing that, and not making it public, and not get of the black candidates, the opportunity to show themselves. That puts them more of the typical to say. Okay, we got to know our culture color. Now, here's the thing that could be crazy, and this is the crazy. One, Carol Austin, that she can she be that person? I mean, what's the biggest impact? You can make as a coach. If you're the Boston Celtics record Black woman, you know, be a huge statement, huge and it would Mass anything. You would do it give you a year or two willing to get your team together because the conversation in the narrative would be about her as a coach, not necessarily about how your team is doing. Did you hear what Jaylen Brown Put up on on his Twitter earlier this week. I did not so Jaylen Brown and I want to make sure I get this right. So I'm going to pull it up right now on Brown Street it out analytics Off, Road 7 NBA teams are remaining four are led by African-American head coaches. They just left it at that a lot. I remember reading that, yeah, like the fat guy like him dance and Jaylin has been so vocal about black lives matter and about black issues. So I can see him being a guy who would speak about this team in that way. And I like, I like it. I love his stance on there. So, yeah, I just again, I believe that the coach is going to be a person of color. That could be a female dog, but I think the person who's going to be of color No, it's interesting. You know, it's been reported. That Jayson Tatum is going to do the Olympics going to join Team USA and I would love to hear, and I know he's going through injuries. Now, going to work his way through and he should be good to go by that's the regular season, but I would love to hear Jaylen Brown do the same thing. You know, you know how I feel about these two and I will look for them to to bond more and get more time or maybe if it takes you away from the team and being off at a competitive level together, but in a different situation, you know, like maybe that helps them, you know, in terms of advancing in in helping that friendship become blossom into something. They know it's going to make the team better or make their teammates better rather or shit, call it a recruitment trip, Max. I mean, in the year two, if there's a free agent out there in the books are cleared and the subjects are back back again in the market for a top-tier free agent, you want to Market yourself to a point where your guy sent, you know, what, not only can those to play well individually, but look how well they play together. I'm the missing piece for those guys. You know what? Let me call log Agent, I want to go to Boston. Let's start a big three, you know, that's how it works Max, you know, in my opinion, right? That's how it works. Can I trade in a Warrior's, you know when he went there because he knew that he knew he was getting himself into. Like you ought to make your situation look as attractive as possible being a 500 team that Eastern Conference. That's not that's not going to do it. I had not bothered that and I think that's brilliant on your part of seeing it as a recruitment tool of being in the Olympics. Talking about your team, showing guys who you are as a player and do about that. Now our guy Nick Joel song, our Grand Puba, he is so far, he is so far against this. I've just saying that Tatum in the Olympics. No doubt. Now what part of this understand to what he's saying is also not necessarily hurt but just resting your body. Here's a guy who came up with Copic And you can come up with Cobra, you don't know, you know, he's told us how it's affected him and you don't know again, the long-term effects aren't, but I think he needs time to heal his body. So I thought this would be a 3-4 months rest. Where you can count and get yourself back in mentally together to get ready to play instead of dealing with the pressures of going to be Olympics in me and jumping right back into the season. Again, I don't care who it is and and I I have to agree with him on that point. Yeah, I would love to win Olympic off. What, what is more important to you right now, you know, get prepared for, you know, the winning world championship or to win an Olympic medal and and to me I think he has to answer that for. But if I'm looking at as a player and as a great player, LeBron LeBron James talked about it. The shortened season and you could look at it all the guys who got hurt and all the top teams who, you know, did not go back. To the promised each year because of, you know, just the breast. So in that terms I would have to agree with Nick Joe. So in the fact that he would say, yeah, maybe this is a time for Tatum or brown to risk their body. You know, a lot of people were talking about the Bubbles, you know, the 2020 playoffs. It's is the winner of that. They get an asterisk next to you next to their name. And you said, you know what, they should get two championships for what they did because it was that much more difficult. But about this year though, no one talks about that this year, right? I mean, maybe now the people starting to talk about it because they're saying all these injuries pile up and they could get bounced out of the first round of the bron James go home early people. You know, people are used to see that kind of thing, but yeah, some people might put an actual next to the name and say, you know what, man, the sun's they battled a team that was that was that was tore up, you know, whether it was I going to say whether it's Anthony Davis or Lebron James, you know, you can go down the list of all the teams. Rattles injuries. Like, whoever wins days, they'll get me wrong. It's been a heck of a playoffs, regardless, we're seeing some great basketball, but you can't ignore the fact that a lot of guys, a lot of teams are missing their best guides. You know, you missed your best guys who are hurt and that's I think we talked about rest of your body but at the same time I think it's more amazing that they got through the season. Remember early in the season where you would have teams would have eight players or seven players, and and covet protocol and all those things. One of the teams were playing like one game every two weeks off and they were able to get back in and complete the season that to me, that to me was was huge. And now getting back and starting to have fans in your building. I'm taking nothing away from this season again. I'm giving that maybe another star, guys. I just want to take a second and talk about Margo with their stem cell. Research has been amazing. I wanted in the evaluation and I end up getting a shot. And I'm hoping right now, I'm going to be back on the court. These guys were brilliant wage. Communicate, well, they give you an education on what it's like. And that is what really, to me one me over because not only, were they going to give me an operation of procedure, but they were going to educate me about this procedure and in learning and being comfortable. That is how you get well. And that's how you become part and my big shout-out to those guys. They did a fantastic job, check them out at marigot Medical, that's the place to be. All right, let's wrap up with this one young man. They have themselves. A golden opportunity to knock off the, the Philadelphia 76ers and punch their ticket to the Eastern Conference Finals, but they didn't get it. Done. Office was just dried up. I guess I don't know what you want to call it but regardless we got a game 76ers. Aux squeeze. Another NBA playoffs. Before we wrap up, give me a prediction Max who is this? Is it is Win. Yep. I think there's one home Sixers, win it. And here's the thing about it do, that's Atlanta. That is Atlantic when they what was the score against the game quick though, what? Yeah, it was two minutes left. Trae, young just hit a huge, a huge through with zero seconds, left on the shot clock. And after a time out, the lights just seriously went out like just like just went out. It's Atlanta, man, what are you talking about? Every time you see in the Atlanta team, something always crazy house know I don't know that I would love sucks though. That's suspect man. We're trying to cool off to try to cool off the fishes. You remember again? What was the score in that game against the Patriots? 20g the three free. That's right. 28 to 3 in Los. That's right, that was Atlanta. So, you know, I'm not sure if Atlanta has a curse or whatever it is dead. I just think that the way they play, I think they play. If the threes are falling, then they get they get themselves in trouble because they don't have the they don't. The thing that really has they have that one that one guy, Joel embiid that nobody can stop, he gets on the box and he's a guy who's going. And what happens normally the game slows down and played it was it slows down, you have to have that consistent guy, who's in the paint and Joel embiid. Is that consistent guy? That can be in the paint that not? There's not in Atlanta Hawk out there that even think about Garden Joel embiid. And that's a Joel embiid, like on maybe a leg and a half. So, I think that I think again, that the Doc Rivers has changed, they get it done. Yeah, the club is up against the Utah, Jazz the Clippers miss. Another historic come-from-behind win. This one wrapped up the series but it wasn't it wasn't just about to start doing it right off. But they had to do this without Kawhi, Leonard dinner with Paul George doing this thing. With twenty eight points besides a terrorist man. This guy got himself a nightmare 39 points. There's a six 3-pointers. He said that he even sure after the game. How many points? Yeah. Cuz he said, last time I looked I was like, 36. May I was too in the zone. What a performance for the first time in thirty years? The Los Angeles Clippers are going to the Western Conference Finals. Somebody told me today that talked to Rick Mahorn my buddy who used to play with Detroit. He was talked to, he said, yeah, maybe the maybe Ella's fans, they shouldn't get so excited. I think those are Clippers fans, they should be as excited as hell. They should celebrate, because they've never been that far. I mean, some teams in the past that were really good teams that did not make it the Blake Griffin's teams like that and Paul George's team and they they did it without one of their best players in Kawhi Leonard. So they're, they're a team that to me, I'm Not Dead. They can win it unless Kauai it comes back and I'm not sure what the injury is. But if if the white Kauai doesn't come back, it's going to be my birthday, detail for them to win it and you know, to pull it out. And that way they they Paul George from the now and we can say it, he's finally kind of got the monkey off his back. You know, because everybody said that, you know he was appalled. Georgia was going to collapse almost in every one of these games. And yeah, you you said that the bottom. So so let's look up in a way like that. Can they win one chance man? Away from from collapsing. Again, man, terrorist man has become through and say that ass. Somebody has to be always to start coming through on the other side. It has to be that secondary player that nobody really looks at in notices and the all of a sudden that guy comes in huge and you can take the knock down shots. And if you are, if you are Right now, Salt Lake City. What do you say? You are about 25 points. 25 points. It's not. It was beside himself to say the least. You got the blind other than yourself. Could that be another coaching vacancy right there? No, I think one side, there's going to be good. I think in his position he's going to be good but it's just really strange to all these coaches are out there right now without jobs. And and I think there's going to be so much movement. I wouldn't be surprised if any ages and then somebody's front office within the next year or or anything. Yeah, but I think he's still get that. Yeah, I think he will. I think he'll go out west. All right, last question Max. What's the best? You know, you know, give me the top three, the best top. Free coaching vacancy. Wow. You know New Orleans the hell of a coaching spot when you're talking about not being down there, right? People talk about but I'm like man, now knew all this friend Dallas has to be huge because you tell them the best players right now. In Luka doncic out there with in a position that people want to see him and I still boss number three way I'm going to go watch George, I'm going to go with Boston because the Tatum and brown and the kind of got players they have right now. It's a wide-open system I'll look at those as those to be in my top three spots. So you said you're saying Boston number one? No, no lie, no other way. Okay, number one, with probably be New Orleans. Then I say Dallas in near Boston number three. Okay, okay. All right. Yeah, you know what? I probably the same way I was going to say I was going to say New Orleans, you know. Oh, yeah, yeah, I'll do the same thing. I do. New Orleans. Portland, Boston? Yeah, that's it. I did, I did New Orleans Dallas. I mean that's what I meant, sorry. Yeah. Well I thought I put Poland 4th, right? Yeah, yeah. All right. Max is going to do a fuss. I'm Joseph bologna is Cedric Maxwell guys. You already know subscriber song on iTunes. The Cedric Maxwell podcast, subscribing rate and we'll be back in next week. Check check this out. Check this out. We're going to go with Georgia Tech as well. Yeah, because we keep it as real as we can be. That's right. That's right. Always keep it a hundred years. Yep. Yep.

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Lakers Fall To Mavs As Anthony Davis Returns

Lakers Nation Podcast

49:14 min | 5 months ago

Lakers Fall To Mavs As Anthony Davis Returns

"Bleeding purple and gold from the Heart of Los Angeles is the lakersnation.com podcast with your host Trevor Lane. Hello Lakers Nation. Welcome and Trevor Lane here for lakersnation.com your home for everything Lakers your Lakers get Anthony Davis back. Unfortunately, yes, they also lost in the Dallas Mavericks. We're going to break down that game sucks. The big news was a d back in Action. If only for the first half right now first time we've seen him in over two months been 30 games that we've been without Anthony Davis and he got back out on the court tonight. There's certainly some Rust we're going to break down his return will talk about what happened in tonight's game talk about what didn't happen. We'll talk about I know what you guys want to talk about the officiating we'll get into that. So if you're coming in from YouTube from Facebook from Periscope welcome and thank you guys for joining us. There is a contest that we're doing right now. It's totally free. You can win some very cool Lakers Nation art and some of its celebrating the 20 NBA championships do some cool stuff that's in the link in the description down below and we'll tell you guys a little bit more about that and just a bit Chris the Masterpiece Masters joining me tonight fresh off of our home. I've watched party over on hot bike, which was a lot of fun during the game tonight. Chris, how you doing, man? I'm doing. All right, you know. Yeah, we did lose and you know, the revs were hot garbage tonight, like off the people sing in the shop. But you know, a d is back, which is the big thing here. And again, I've kind of like I was saying the watch party. I just kind of went into this thinking bout going to split this two-game series with the Mavs anyway. So we lost tonight and, you know, they made a game out of it in the, in the 4th. But I think the Lakers I would look for them to take on Saturday. So that that's what's getting me through trip. Yeah. And that's just it, right? Is that they we get another shot at this Saturday. The Lakers play the Mavs, again, obviously, this isn't good because the Mavs are chasing the Lakers in the same things, but you can kind of atone for for tonight by getting the win, come Saturday. And hopefully by then Anthony Davis will be a little bit more in Rhythm. Feeling a little bit, a little bit better. We certainly saw a lot of rust but but let's just dive into wage. To start Anthony Davis back out on the floor. First of all was just great to see him out there. What was your impression of his first game back in over 2 months? Well, you know as his offense didn't come to him. I think he was over its first five shots or something like that. So I mean he's got to get some offensive Rhythm. I've seen some people in the chat saying like he was in bad shape. I don't know if I want to go that part maybe maybe just in terms of you know full court basketball conditioning but I mean, what do you expect? He's been out like a couple of months off. I would expect even though he was coming back tonight. I didn't expect him to come back and be in full form. I mean, he was only playing he supposed to play 15 minutes ended up playing 17 minutes so long, you know, it's just one of those things I think we we just you know, ye she is back but we just need to kind of root for his health going forward and just kind of know that he's going to take a while to get in Rhythm. So we're going to have to be patient before we see, you know, the playoff a d so to speak. Yeah, I think that we saw flashes of the 80 that we're used to and it's going to take some time right? I mean to be dead. It wasn't just like it was, you know, I don't know a broken finger. Where his hands going to hurt, but he can still get out there and and run and kind of keep keep the the conditioning up, right? This was a leg injury where he's not going to be allowed to go. Run go do anything like that. Now you can probably get some shots up and everything but but he wasn't able to get out there and really run much because he's dealing with his injury. So now he's got to get his legs back, under him. He's got his build his win, back up. Build up his stamina, and I'm going to take a little bit of time, so we saw a rusty Anthony Davis, but that's to be expected. We also saw where his length made a difference. Cutting off some, the passing Lanes, picking up some steals. We saw him working on the boards and we saw some some odd flashes, a couple of nice jumpers from him. The really nice drop step Baseline where he scored there. He was pretty much what I expected him to be rusty but still a d. Yep, still lady. Definitely. I'm getting a lot of people in here making making comments about about Davis. Somebody making a comment about schreuder's paths to Treasures. Oh, yeah, we're going to talk about that but we're going to talk about that one for sure. But let's just talk about so Dennis. I feel for Montrezl Harrell at this point. I feel phone case every single game. This guy gets hit in the face. He gets hit in the face more than anyone I've ever seen. He's like the Scott Sterling of NBA. I don't know how this is possible but he gets hit in the face all the time and I think Chris I think it's it's my theory that because he's six seven and he's in the post. He's a little bit lower. So he's right at elbow height for a lot of these bigger guys. So he already got elbow to the face and walk in and then Friendly Fire Dennis Schroder goes to fling a pass. He was trying to pass it out to Alex Caruso behind the arc, but treze was cutting to the basket at the same time. He was like three feet away from him. And so the past that had enough zip on it to get out to Caruso across the floor Rockets into Montrezl Harrell's face. I feel for this guy. I don't know how this keeps happening to him. Besides he's got this magnet on his face for like contact or something. Like I don't know things just like drift way through his face. I don't know. It's pretty crazy. But like we might really have to initiate that drinking game come playoffs when it comes to trans getting help out in the face, you know what I mean? Cuz it's just it's really it's really kind of comical. I remember there was a posting show or there was a another post game show but a game where he got elbowed in the face and I don't know I was thinking about you guys cuz you had you had brought it up that happens like every single game to to him and it was one of the games I wasn't wage on the post game show with but it's just yeah, it's all but anytime tries gets hit in the face. You take a drink that and that's that's I think a pretty legit drinking game or a default or a default. That's what we got a whole, you know, come up with a bunch of these for the Lakers. I think as time goes on here Falls could get us into some trouble he can get his attention trouble. I could certainly I could certainly be a be problematic. They're all right. Let's get it a few more of these questions and comments here about some people like Chris Martinez saying this year. This isn't our year. Sorry this team, isn't it? Look, I understand. I understand that. It's frustrating nights like tonight, but literally off the exact same thing was being said last season the exact same thing was being said last season that was happening when the Lakers would lose a game. Then there was that little spark of optimism because the Lakers beat the boss than the Clippers one right after another and then somebody kicked the cord out of the wall and the plug got pulled on the entire season and things shut down so that gave us a little bit of optimism there but up until that point the knock off on the Lakers was they can't beat the good teams. They can beat the bad teams. They can't be the good teams. This team just doesn't quite have it. And then they wanted NBA championship. I'm not saying it's the same and we can certainly be frustrated, but I don't think we can just throw our hands up and say, oh, that's it. That's it. They're not going to win this season. It's over. Pack it up. Pack know, I completely disagree with that person in the chat and like I was saying our watch party, you know, mountains played with a little more urgency because of some of the reasons I talked about like they want to play their way out of the the play and they're in the seventh seed. But I mean I think when you look at the league and and and again like I never wished we met as a collective as Laker Nation ever wish for injuries. But I mean there's obviously been a lot of them but I think once you know, ades back and form and get some more reps under him in the broad, I just don't see a team that really frightens me going into the postseason, you know what I mean? Whether it be the Jazz Clippers Nets, I mean I just feel like a full strength Laker team and then you know, like dead I don't know. It just, I just completely disagree with the person the chat. I think we're going to be, okay. I mean I don't think you can judge a game like this and say, oh we've you know, the team is not dead, you know, capable of winning a championship especially when you factor all the variables into tonight's game and, you know, over the last few weeks in general. Absolutely, absolutely. There's so many different things that the lack of Delaware. The the steam is fully healthy, I'll take my chances. I'm not saying they are, they're definitely going to win. I'm not saying there aren't some serious contenders here. I mean like the Clippers, the Jazz, the sons are very solid, the Denver but they're still dangerous right there. There's a lot of teams in the Western Conference alone that are good and a lot of teams in the Eastern Conference that are very, very solid. So trying to to project that oh the Lakers are definitely going to just get through all of it. It's not going to be easy but they're one of the teams with the legitimate shot to win this thing Andrew escamilla from from YouTube with a super chat. So what do you expect from us during the early age? May stretch versus Western Conference playoff teams. So let's take a look at that. I know there are some some tough games there. I think ultimately isn't pulling up the schedule here. The answer is probably depends on the Bronx is LeBron back in action or is he not cuz if he is I think there's a pretty good chance they win a number of those games, but we don't know for sure exactly when he's coming back. So early May you've got Toronto then Denver Clippers Portland Phoenix those four in a row. Again, if LeBron back, you know, if you go to and to their you're pretty happy with that, maybe you go three and one if you everybody's healthy and they're starting to really click if they go oh and forward then people are going to be really panicking saying these are all playoff teams going to have to play against in the play-offs. But yeah that that's a tough stretch. But again, it's late enough. So where we don't know who's going to be playing like if the seating is locked? Our team starting to sit players at that point. I think that's going to be that contractor. Well, that's what I was going to say that I mean the big question is, where are we in the playoffs speeds at that point? You know what I mean? Cuz that that'll really tell you know, cuz I mean that'll be caused to be stressed out. If we're off a situation that we don't want to be in or we didn't see ourselves in and I don't know I don't know how scared we have to be of the play and tournament but it'd just be nice to not to be able to have our guys be able to rest if they need it and that point in time. I've got from YouTube Alejandro glue said the NWA channeled bunch of flexing biceps. We need to waive our phones on McKinney and sign you put a picture of a guitar. And then guitar Emoji. They want to bring in Lance Stephenson, you're not waving Alfonso nobody right now, but that's, but I liked that. That was a quality Emoji. Used their James Bell from YouTube. So with the superjet said, trust gets hit in the face. More than Floyd Mayweather. Probably accurate, probably accurate. Well, true very true. I'm surprised he hasn't had his nose broken yet or maybe possible. I just has, maybe hasn't done it with the Lakers obvious. Ryan Mitchell from YouTube has Wesley Matthews fallen out of the rotation for good. You know, this is the first game that we saw where he was just out. Right? Anthony Davis, came back and we wondered where the minutes were going to come from. Apparently, the answer was West Matthews West Matthews minutes went away. And you know who did Ben McLemore? Is that a thing moving forward has McLemore. Now usurped Matthews role as one of the guards coming off the bench. I think it's going to be something to watch for them. forward here Well, I can't speak to the real Laker team but I will say for my Lakers on my NBA 2K playoff run Ben McLemore has replaced West Matthews coming out the page that's for real actually. So if that's any indication, it's then the apparently it does mean a real life pretty well chicken drum from YouTube. You think the Lakers have a better chance against the Mavericks because porzingis has a sprained ankle. You know, I hope porzingis is okay. That would look like a pretty nasty ankle sprain. I never want to root for a player injury. Of course, if he is out the Lakers probably have a better chance, but you're still going to have to get out there and compete like the Mavs are desperate to get out of that 7 seed and that's what we saw from them tonight. We saw a massive team that was locked in playing this like a playoff game because they don't want to be the 7th seed. They don't want to have to go play in the play in tournament. We know that and the Lakers are one of the teams that's ahead of them. So they really turned it up. I don't know if the Lakers completely match that intensity bulb. They don't have porzingis and they're still playing with this intensity at the Lakers. Don't come out and match that then porzingis or not. They could lose this next game. So I'm not just going to say this is a definite win. But I mean look for zynga's is a good player if he's not out there. Yes, I think it definitely hurts the maps. Or group you could definitely see that urgency out of the maps tonight though from the very tip. Yeah, they they came out and this was what I was expecting. They approached it like a playoff game. Let's get some of the the stats here that because there's something we need to highlight Andre Drummond 19 rebounds a lot of those coming in the second half. I thought that the Lakers weren't doing a good enough job on the board in the first half the first half. I didn't think they were doing a great job there, but they made some adjustments drum and really focused in on the boards Fourteen Points nineteen boards three blocks for Andre Drummond really nice night for him 5% Sure Dennis Schroder 25 and 13 twenty five points 13 assists 9 for thirteen shooting for Dennis Schroder Loki didn't finish things great down the stretch, but great perfect from him overall and then 29 to lead the team for Casey pkc. 364 12 from 3 should 50% from Deep really nice for him nine 4:17 over all dead. Didn't do a whole lot else in the other areas. Only one rebound on one steal. No assist, no blocks. Nothing like that. But 5 for 5 from the free throw line as well. Nice performance from him Montrezl Harrell 14 and 614.6 - 7 of 8 shootings, only 17 minutes but looked a little bit more like himself out there. Anthony Davis, like, forgettable, stat line 17 minutes to 4:10 shooting for boards one. It says, one steal one block off again. This is his first time playing in over two months, so we can understand that. What was, you know, what stands out to me is the those nineteen re boards are 19 rebounds from Andres Roman and then also, you know, the song from kcpt and from Sweden. Yeah. Agreed. Agreed. Those things definitely stood out Drummond again, I was not impressed with Drummond's efforts on the boards in the first half. Second half, I thought he really changed them some things up, but I used to hear what Frank Vogel said. Oh yeah, and Kyle kuzma. Just not a great performance from Kyle kuzma. 8.6 boards, horses for 4:10 also, not a good tailor horton-tucker night tonight. He got blown by by Luca number of times. The fact, the Mavs were switched hunting thte. Forcing tht to switch. On Toluca, I would have liked to have seen tht do a bit better there. I know he's tough to defend but I feel like he's got the skills. Ghd does to actually stick with him a little bit and we just did not see that. So we only played 12 minutes for points. 245 shooting two turnovers in those twelve minutes not. Not a great night for THD who has been playing very well recently. Yeah, you could say the same thing about cruise to I mean who's has been playing? Well, I mean he has a game here. They're like this but I just wasn't a particularly Stand Out game, you know for cruise and definitely just not a good game. Really? Yeah definitely was not a security guard apparently from YouTube. I don't know if that's a name or profession. But but from YouTube with a superset superchat says just want to say Chris is the mayonnaise, LOL appreciate that. That's awesome. All right, guys, let's get in. Let's get into the next-man-up bored. Let's get this of the positive. I can't wait to get to the Master locks. I've got a lot to say on Thursday. Let's get into the the next man up Award right now. Here we go off and All right, the next man up award. Who do you think was the best player of the night for the Lakers Chris? We'll start with you. I think there's a few different options in here. So I'm just curious to see which way you go with this. What I think you know, this is why it's a good thing though next LVL of a watch party. Anybody who's watching this post game show. You got to come on board for that cuz it's fun throughout the game kind of debating. Who's the appropriate we got for the next we gotta talk about this little game as the game was happening on the on the oh you watch party. Yeah, we had a lot and we had a lot of fun with that especially with the next man up, cuz we knew who the Master Lock in the nineties. I think, you know how to go over. This is probably the same way you're going to go back. I would split the next-man-up probably and and I'm not looking at the stats right now that, that's why maybe if I looked at the stats, it would leave me one way or another, but we set it in the large party. I mean, it was felt like a competition between JCP Intruder and then it felt like it was schreuder's. But then it felt like kcp was kind of buying for it and trying to trying to come back for it but so I don't know, really kind of where it fell off. But you know, you might want to just split it down the middle between the two of them or I don't know. Let's, let's have you be the decider? What is your see? My my whole plan who is was to let you pick and then whichever one you picked off, I would just take the other one. So if you pictured or I would take ASAP or vice versa, both of those guys were fantastic. Both those guys were great. I think, I think we can just say, I don't know. Say I picked a CPU picture off. Her both of them deserve next man. Up Awards tonight. They were great kcp. Look. I mean, this is now what three games in a row of kcpt hitting at least five threes? I don't want to jinx it and say he's back. But he certainly feels like the guy that we saw at the beginning of the Season at least over these last three, I went over this the other day on the Lakers Nation YouTube channel k c p is shooting 50% from 3 in the month of April 50% and scored fourteen points per game, tremendous, tremendous, telling him about something about one thing with that and that's without LeBron James on the floor. Cuz we know what LeBron James does to a guy like a c p. Imagine if LeBron was out there. Exactly, exactly. That's what Ella hondro Colusa, Trevor. I think Lakers players are watching this show and they all want the award. That's what we were saying during the during the watch part. You're saying yes, yep. Intruder are literally competing for the next man up award. They were going back and forth, making big plays, but but you're right Chris kcp with LeBron out. There is even more dangerous cuz he's going to get that many more wage looks. But I love how aggressive he's been. He is really getting to going. And then schruder, I mean he he really picked it up. Had I think you only took what, maybe one shot if any in the first place because he was just passing the, yeah, it was doing it. Yeah, it was assisting the ball ended the house with like I think seven assists maybe over that. But then I just right on cue. Like I think we were saying before, or right around town. He came alive offensively in the second half, which he knew he was. He did finish the night with four turnovers that most of them coming late, you know, late in the game, but, but still 25 and 13 from 10:00 to nine of them t-shirt. This is another game that he can point to if if somebody's saying well you know we don't know if you're worth the amount of money you're looking for on the next contract. You say, look what it look at least that lines liquid. Did the nice night for him, that's for sure. Chris we oh, somebody said Caruso should have played, don't speak more. He took him. Well yeah I was glad that Frank Vogel kind of identified that down the stretch and put him on him. But Crusoe did do a nice job defensively. Probably better than anybody else on the team because we saw kuzma. Really struggle. There we saw wage much anybody that went on kcp. Anybody who's covering Luka was struggling. Caruso probably did the best job. Yeah, I think that's right. Yeah, cuz yeah Luca was giving keeping our guys a lot of a lot of help tonight. All right, guys, we do have our contest going on right now. 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They were and then Frank Vogel said arguably this was Dennis Reuters best game maker. He was spectacular great performance by Dennis. I thought he was really so so vogel's saying that Dennis Reuters Global said voters cast his vote for Dennis Schroder to get the An up reward. So you can bet across the lot. Locker room kcp staring daggers right now cuz he's finding out about this and he's saying no coach, that's my award. I put up twenty nine points off this. I don't know if I would, I don't know if I would say this is Dennis Shooters best performance, but it's up there. It's up there this month. Only one of his best performances, as as a Laker. That's the same thing. I was thinking and it didn't stand out to me as his best performance. I feel like there was a game I would have picked the evidence but it was definitely good. It was definitely very good. So Adrian's got from YouTube, said I thought they were going to space out 80s minutes. So why would you do this? It was basically preseason style. We're LeBron Tour AD played just the first half, just what we normally see in preseason and not the second. I think the reason for that and I'd be curious to see what vocals explanation is. But to me, it seems like the reasoning to do that. The rationale would be, he gets warmed up and then you put him out there on the floor and then he plays and if you'd say okay we're going to play him 16 minutes total and we're going to do four minutes a quarter. Well that means that he's going to have to come out. He's going to cool down then you're going to put him back in then half times going to happen, he's got a really cool down, you're going to have to loosen back up again and then get back out there. Whereas if you can, just play the bulk of that first half and then shut him down. He gets warmed up, he gets out there, he plays them. Time comes. And he doesn't have to worry about shutting it down for 15, 20 minutes at halftime and then ramping it back up to go play again. I think that's probably the rationale behind it. But we knew that ahead of time. Going in the Lakers said, he's only playing the office staff. That's totally. I think that's totally on-point travel. I mean to cool down that many times and you know, coming off of an injury, it's much better to just get more. Stay warm and you know and kind of get your reps in like that. So that just completely makes sense. Yeah to me. Yeah, absolutely. It just I think they the Lakers are doing the right thing. You still have to be careful. Bring them along slowly. Frank Vogel said, he'd they aren't sure exactly if his minutes are going to go up next game and what that's going to look like, they kind of have to see how he feels tomorrow and re-evaluate as as they go, but they're going to play it by ear. See see where things go from there? I've got people. Chris, this is amazing. I have people the chat saying they should have played Marc Gasol. Oh, wow. Wow, how about that? Can you believe it? This is how quick they slip. This is how quick that all it takes is one game and all of a sudden we want Marcus all the plaintiff and then you know, it doesn't surprise they were you know to be fair guess all did play very very well right before right when Drummond got hurt there was like four games. He played really well off. So I get that like, he's like I saw we saw most recently is not the Consol we saw back in like January, right? Because all we saw back in January obviously was not very effective but it is kind of like we had so many people that were calling for Gasol to get benched or get traded or just flat-out get caught just get him away from the team and now we've got people saying let's put this all back in. Well, that's funny cuz you know, those Casal games you're talking about, those were the only games that I couldn't watch this season because I was working. So I only I've only heard about these games. They're like something or, you know what I mean? Like something, I'm like, you know, cuz I actually didn't get to see it with my own true. Not too wise, the good Gasol games. Chris, our own map Peralta is chiming in here, coming in from YouTube. Matt you know you kind of just come on the show man if you if you wanted we you could have just jumped on here with us you were on during during the game during the watch party home and now he's in our in our comments here saying please bring back whose relative please, which is what he calls himself now that he's dyed his hair blond to match how kuzma. It's not working out for, Thursday at But he really do that for cruise, you know. Okay. Anyway. But he did that for Kyle kuzma. All right. Jaybird. 35 said, why doesn't kuzma guard, Luca? He did. And he backed up files, almost instantly. That's yeah, he did. It didn't work. It. Show the Lakers won a permit real quick. That's the, that's the scary part. But, I mean, Clues has been a better Defender this season, so I mean, you know, like I think I see what he's getting at. You would think maybe Cruise would have been able to do a better job, but we did see it, you know, maybe just missed those plays the, the guy in the chat. Yeah, it would just, it wasn't a lot that they use coupon. Check. So that's probably where you could have missed it. Chris Thomas, Christopher Thompson from YouTube said, are you concerned or offense has become stagnant with a d back now. Relying too much on him to score know, I think the Lakers were feeding the ball to page service in order to get them going. They did the same thing with drum and drum its first game because they recognize that, hey, he, we, we need to get him going and so they fed him the ball of bunch. And I think they did that with Anthony Davis. I don't think that's Skin to happen long-term I think it's going to become a lot more natural but yeah, they have to adjust now to Anthony Davis being back. I think that's that's all that is. Don't you love it? When you look in the chat and you see somebody like with an Anthony Davis, profile pic and their name is Anthony. Davis in probably really is Anthony Davis too. I'm sure they're very you know they said Laker Nation. The sky is falling. No that's from Anthony Davis. Sky is not falling. Sky is not falling off of our members from YouTube. Do you think Wes and Gasol deserve minutes? I think you can make a stronger argument for Gasol than Wes right now. I thought it was interesting that Ben McLemore got the minutes over West. I think if LeBron comes back, Ben McLemore is probably the one to lose minutes and then That's it. I mean, what's a maximum of both be on the outside looking in and you ten man rotation off the bench would be tht and Caruso and then you would have kuzma Markieff and Treads and I think thier bench unit and that's probably the way things are looking right now. I don't think Wes Matthews has earned those minutes. I think he's been very inconsistent shooting the ball defensively. He's been okay, but I I think it's all has a stronger case right now. Four minutes the West Matthews does Yeah, that shooting slump that like him and Casey. He just kind of never. He never came out of, you know, he never really got got going offensively and luck. Now we're seeing cases P kind of come back to form. So yeah it's unfortunate but he hasn't really earned more time. Chris, somebody says Chris you should be part of the MCU. The Marvel Cinematic Universe? Yeah, they're saying, who would you play like? I mean, like, Batista got a whole lot of tracks. Yes. Yeah I would have never known drag. So like did you know about the about drugs and all those characters before the Guardians of the Galaxy before the movies home? Cuz I wasn't even aware. I knew drags I knew a few of them but not but there were a few that I didn't. I wasn't super familiar with with Rocket Raccoon or Groot because they were kind of, like, newer characters had heard of like, Star-Lord and Gamora and and some of the other characters. But but I definitely knew Drax cuz he's hit that character has been around for a while. But who would you? Who would you play? You know, what would be a good role? You know, would be a good role as not to play somebody from like the Avengers, but play somebody from the mutants, like the X-Men Universe coming into the the DMZ. Cuz I think that's where I, I have to believe in my heart of hearts. That that's where they're going, is that there's going to be a merge of the X-Men into what we know now is the MCU and yep. Is a really cool way to do that to get everybody pumped. So I don't know as far as which character, I don't know. That's a good question. I wish I had a good ass happening. Yeah, that that's definitely happening. X-Men is going to be brought got the property rights to it. Now, it's that's going to happen, but if you do a Russian accent, you can be closest. Well, that that's what I was thinking. You know what I mean? The other classes that didn't really get off his just due in the, the X-Men movie. So that would be a cool character to bring back. I don't know. Who else will my some of the people in the chat are saying the Juggernaut. You could be a villain. Yeah, I mean you don't honestly I would take any one of those roles. It just be awesome to be a part of that. You know what I mean? So that that would be pretty cool pretty cool to see. All right. I've got off somebody James or Stephen be Smith said Luka just got two more free throws. I liked it. And with that let's do the Master Lock in the nation that takes us into our big topic here. Let's go. Thursday, all right, Chris the Masterpiece Masters who is getting put in the Master Lock to night. You know, so we set in our watch along there's some nights where there's like a definitive Master log, you know, there's just there's a master lock that just thought was right, you know, like it's not something you have to think about. You don't have to debate between this guy or that guy. There's just one answer that just feels right you go with it, you know, that's that's the one and I'm going to have to go with it. I'm saying it now and I I feel like a majority of the chat is going to go along with this. I say the referees the officiating gets the message. Yes, all all three of them. I think there's three of them out there on the court. I think there's three masked Mazda shot. It goes to the officials bottom line. There was just too many fouls a lot of kind of ticky-tacky houses. That was a lot of thousands of went against the Lakers. I think you said, I mean the mountains shot about ten more free throws than the Lakers I think are are they went to the line ten more times? That is 20 jul. That was just, oh, twenty more times goodness. 36 to 1636 to 17 was the free-throw attempts. Yeah, and so like a number of things, obviously we're biased cuz we don't want, you know, other team gave them any free throws but it just it killed the flow of the game and some of these files just did not need to be installed it almost, you know, we were making jokes about how the referees were were wearing blue tonight cuz they were Dallas. They were basically Mavericks, they were Mavericks Nation. They're probably on the Mavericks name posted now too, so they they got ran up on the Mavs post game show. So you know I saw some people mentioning Markieff Morris is it has a master like maybe as a as an honorable mention. I'm not going to go that route. He had a rough night was definitely not a great night for him but I think most of us would agree that the officiating should be mastered. What about, you know? I mean the officiating I get frustrated with the officiating every now and then but it's it's rare that I'm this frustrated. With the officiating a game because I felt like it was so one-sided. And here's the thing, an equal number of free throws like if teammate should fifteen, be frozen team beat use 15, free throws. That doesn't mean the game called evenly. Sometimes twenty pounds more than another, a free throw discrepancy. Doesn't necessarily mean poor officiating but in this case, we saw a lot of calls going against the Lakers that they weren't getting on the other end. We saw Dennis Schroder get taken around taking out coming around to screen on the offensive end. And then on the other end Luther was getting those calls. Luca donshea could look, if you looked at him, he walked free throws. He was getting incredible calls. The only times he was getting calls against him, was when it was particularly egregious. Like and he got mad at this, through the ball at the referee because he pushed Alex Cross the ground, created the contact bouldershoulder head to him extends the arm pushed. I mean was a textbook charging call and he gets mad at Chuck's the ball at the referee, no technical, nothing like that song. Look on the number that's crazy on the night. 28, fouls called against the Lakers 15 against the Mavericks, and the Lakers being a bigger stronger team. That goes in attacks inside as often as they can, they shoot less free throws 36 to 17 now and a rarity. The Lakers did actually shooting threes than the Magid 3224, which is surprised, usually not the case with the Lakers and one of their opponents, but still the officiating tonight was bad. It was just not good. We saw the exams, get all kinds of calls to put them on the line. And the same play, was not yielding and whistled for the Lakers and that's where it gets frustrating, when it's not consistent. Yeah, totally and you know just kills the flow of the game. I mean, it just it made it a kind of a difficult game to watch it, some points and just a lot of thinking Tak Pals man, and I don't know off the referees. Get master log, that's it. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely deserving. And again, you know, this is a kind of game in a five-point game that I mean, that easily swayed this game. I'm not saying. That's the reason why the lake. There are a lot of things. The Lakers could have done to win this game. There were a number of big plays like momentum swinging, plays that did not go to the Lakers way, kcpt the fast break that, that mrs. And then Luka gets a bucket. The other end, there's a four-point swing. You've got a number of places that we're like that, where the Lakers just should have had a scoring opportunity. Should have. Something that didn't involve a referee where they still could one this thing. But I have to think with a different officiating crew, even this game may have gone the other way may have been a Lakers game. Right. Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up cuz as much as I would work in a dog, the officiating. Like you said there were, you know, a lot of 50/50, kind of situations didn't go off, because we're a lot of things. Just didn't follow the Lakers wait tonight. And then, you know, like, in the first half, they gave up the bass line, like a million times to we talked about that. So, I mean, it wasn't just the officiating, but that did not help matters at all. Yeah, that's, that's something that address as well. You know, the Lakers when they go back and they're looking at the film from this game, they're going to see and I'm sure they discussed and a half times. They cleaned it up a little bit in the second half. How many times did they get caught turning their head when they were defending the med, the the man in the corner and then get beat with a backdoor, Baseline cut for a dunk because they got caught watching. Liu Kang and not paying attention to the man who was just back door, cutting them all game. And that's what, what the Mavs do. That's something we've seen from them consistently over the years, little things like that. I'm not I don't say you can blame the referees completely, right the Lakers shot themselves in the foot a number of times, but the officiating was bad tonight and I think the officiating did play a role in our lives in this game are Groot. All right, let's somebody said the the refs carried the maps tonight, you know Luka got it going eventually and finished with 30 points nine boards, eight. It says three steals, you know typical Luca stat line. But yeah, I mean look, I think the refs really got the Mavs going and some other parts of the game, you know porzingis 7 free throws Luca 11 free throws six free throws for Willie cauley-stein took over for Hardaway Jr. It just that adds up that adds up and that makes it really tough to to get a win there. And and also the moms were red-hot for most of the game at the end. They finish shooting 38% from 3, either were 40-plus percent. I was 50% for most of the game and then fifty percent from the field they they were red-hot. So we'll see if that changes on Saturday. Yeah, I remember when we went into halftime and you were going over it. They were well over somewhere over 50% shooting it seemed like they were missing in that first half and we've so yeah, but I think the Lakers will clean some stuff up. I think a deal look a little better probably on Saturday. And again, I just think we were going to we were destined to split the series with with the maps. Like I don't think Mavs are going to win both games by any means I think Lakers will do what they gotta do to take care of business on Saturday. You know, I'm really curious according to the odds. The Mavs were favored to win this game by 3 a.m. That they were three and half Point favorite going in and then over under was 216 points. So, you're passed that they scored. Plenty of points in the Mavs also, covered the spread. I'm curious to see what those numbers look like for this next game. Given how well the Lakers played or how close this was, but the map still pulled off the wind and then porzingis being out. I'm really curious to see what this looks like with Anthony Davis. Another game under off his belt, Yeah, this is going to be, I think the I'm going to be keeping a close eye on this. I think the odds are the next game are going to be super super close in terms of who wins the Lakers might even switch into being a favorite. I I would think the Lakers would be the bad. I just feel like they're going to come into that next game with you know, and they'll probably match the intention the the urgency and intensity of the Mavs in order to get that win. They're not going to want to get beat by the match twice and you just know that yeah, certainly. Yeah, they certainly don't want to do that. Especially given where things are looking in the standings, you know, the the play that took into my head to is the one more shooter should have got continuation on the N1 and didn't little things like I don't add up by the end of the game. Yep, I forgot a roll scene of said from Facebook said will porzingis play next game. I would imagine probably not just when you turn your ankle like that. It's going to be tough to get into today's. I mean, I don't there's nothing set, but I would say probably not be unlikely real. Where's y'all probably end up being good for us. Anyway, not that we want anybody hurt by any means but we definitely want to Victory Benedict massing K. Do you think the Lakers role players can keep up their recent Play Once both LeBron and you get fully back. So we've seen some guys have to step up right in the absence of Lebron in a d e and those guys continue to place I level without them just in a more limited role. I think yes, and I think that's the Silver Lining to the Stars being out is that you got the role players now playing at a higher level because they had to because it was sink or swim and they had to pack up their games. You didn't have that crutch of LeBron or Anthony Davis to lean on anymore. And so the Silver Lining is now you might have a stronger team overall if you can be one hundred percent healthy. I agree. And you know, the thing is true as everything. You said just makes a hundred percent sense, you know what I mean? In terms of these guys getting the time and be able to get cooking and everything, but then again, LeBron makes everything easier for all these guys. You know what I mean? He's, that's what he does. He says he's guys up. So I mean I just think this is going to end up working out wage exactly the way it was meant to in the end, you know, I mean like all the guys that needed to get time looking to get time, all the guys that needed to get rest whether injured or not, injured are getting rest and it's just I think it's going to work out for us in the end. I love the optimism there and I hope that that is indeed how it goes down. Let's do one more from Facebook. Cameron Hernandez said, is there an update to win? LeBron will be back. Yeah, like the the update we have on LeBron is that he is doing on-court work according to Frank mobile. He's doing light on court work. Now that has nothing concrete nothing set in stone in terms of when he's actually took me back but I think that's a good sign that he's actually doing stuff on the floor with the basketball. Does that mean he's coming back in a few days? It doesn't mean he's coming back in a week. We're gonna have to wait to get a more concrete update on that but the fact that he's not in the mood anymore and he's got enough strength at this point in the leg and it's not bothering him enough to the point where he's doing stuff on the basketball court. He's not forced to sit under the sidelines. I think that's a good sign as far as the comeback goes. Yeah, we're getting closer and closer to the postseason. So, you know, LeBron's got to be ready at some point here soon right choice. I mean things are about to pick up. Yep. That's right. Absolutely. And and, you know when LeBron gets back that will certainly change the look of the team and hopefully they can build up that chemistry as quickly as possible. Oh here's One Alex Lyon from YouTube said Chris Masters would make a good Century from Marvel, you know, the century know I'm gonna have to look that up. Nope. Okay, I could see this. I think this is this is pretty basically he's got ridiculous amounts of power. Right just incredibly powerful Alex Lyon says, he would whoop Galactus right? Like the century is just insanely powerful, but he also got a split personality where the where he's like arch-rival. This guy called the void is also a part of his own psyche and it's it's very interesting the way they go back and forth and everything with this so he's got all this immense power, but he's kind of like talk part in terms of in terms of his mind is so you could have a lot of fun with that I could see where you're like insanely powerful, but you also get to really act in a lot of ways with that part so I would be excited to see him. Almost so powerful. Like it would be hard to bring him into the MCU because you would just be to everybody basically. Yeah, he's basically like Chris Thompson said, he's he's he's a super he's basically in a Superman. He's like the Marvel version of Superman. Yeah, which way you know, it was weird when you put Batman and Superman together cuz Superman was so much stronger than anybody in kind of the Batman. I don't know that whole dynamic just was always weird to me. But yeah, I'm gonna have to look that up. I don't know that character. I guess a few of these characters are kind of slip through the cracks for me. I was more of kind of a X-Men guy in Spider-Man and and and then DC so but I didn't go as far as what did you say his name was centuries and the century Yeah, I didn't see I didn't see what you'll have to take a look saying. Yeah, he's too powerful for four MCU. Yeah, that would be that would be the concern if you were to bring him in and Warren peace at the century can't use its power over turns into an evil character. Yeah, that's that's the thing. He's got all this power but he's also scared to use it cuz if he lets the void out and it gets very complicated, but it's pretty cool. I love that. I love that bird character idea though, cuz you gotta understand coming from a guy who comes with the World of Wrestling where it's you go from good guys too bad guys and Babyface to heal switches off sounds like a great character. Yeah, you know what? I mean? Cuz it's kind of that same deal right there. You know what I mean? I could be a baby face or I could go. He'll be pretty cool. I think we need to call up long as somebody over over on the table will get that done. Sorry, right? All right. What do you mean who's going to who's going to call? The Lakers Nation post game shows. Come on Charlie Brown. We can bring you in via Skype from the set. You fine. Yeah, there you go. I like like that. All right, everybody look not a great night in terms of the Lakers lose. But again the most important part, Anthony Davis's back gets out there on the floor. Yeah, he looked Rusty, we haven't seen this guy in over two months and now he's back. Can't wait to see him. Really get his legs under him because he's going back a force for the Lakers. Hopefully LeBron James not too far behind the Lakers. Do take on the maps again on Saturday. Hopefully, get a little bit of Revenge in that one. Make sure you do. Come join us for the Lakers Nation, post game show off as always and don't forget to subscribe right here for the Lakers Nation, YouTube channel. Till next time everybody see you and stay safe.

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406: Should the Celtics Rest Everyone and Commit to the Play-in Tournament w/ Sean Deveney

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406: Should the Celtics Rest Everyone and Commit to the Play-in Tournament w/ Sean Deveney

"Today is Monday, May 3rd and this is Celtics beat on the clns media Network. The leading online provider of audio video coverage of the. Boston Celtics. I'm Adam Kaufman. Episode 406 features, heavy dot-coms and Forbes. Sean, deveney is powered by betonline.ag go to bed online today and use the promo code, clns 54, fifty percent. Sign up bonus track. Okay, we are back with you. Another new addition to selfish beat, I was getting another nice New Edition but I don't know how kind this show is going to be. If I'm being honest it's been a weird sort of run. I'm Adam Kaufman, you know Evan Valenti are produced or sometimes host. Of course we welcome in a good friend of the program. Sean deveney from heavy from Forbes from. I mean everywhere the man just he's he runs the globe. How are you bud? I'm doing well. How are you guys? I've been better off. You know, I was just looking at the Celtics schedule and as we know and we can dive into this stuff a little bit later, the seven games left and sitting seventh in the East and what that means for the play in tournament and other thoughts on the plane tournament or at league and all that, good stuff will save, that will get to it a little bit later in the show, the last handful of games guys. I think it's just such a perfect microcosm of this cellphone season in so many ways. Okay, you look at the game last Sunday so we could go Sunday in Charlotte. Just embarrassed doors, blown off terrorist or chechnya, there's a Gordon Hayward, you don't even show up for that game and everyone's making excuses after the fact that, you know, we gotta be better and all that good, you know, all that stuff. We're used to hearing it said north of twenty Point loss. How do they rebound? How are they need to? You know, stick the their feet to the fire and and respond. Well they get embarrassed even worse by Oklahoma City at home. Not worse in the sense that, you know, they lost by more, they only lost by 4. But worse, because not as a team that lost 14 straight games, you're in your building, they had played a back-to-back you're well-rested and they have no Talent whatsoever to speak of your basically full, you know, for the for the most part at least in terms of what you need to have out their artillery Rising, you've got the power and you go out there and and you lose. I mean, good for the Leominster native said, coach there for for the homecoming in front of friends, and family, but goddamnit, what an awful performance by the Celtics in that game. So fine. What are they going to do? Next time out against Charlotte, they win they recoup, they put money, you know, money where their mouth is Jaylen Brown, he's a leader. He shows up, it's on, you know I'm getting killed on Twitter. Great. Wonderful. That's what you need. Charlotte kind of ant but they all count the same thing. That's all that matters. So, then you have the game against the Spurs, which in and of itself is kind of the Celtics season, right? They go down by 32 points, 32 points off and then complete one of the biggest comebacks in NBA history behind Jayson. Tatum's historic 60-point performance. Mike Gorman called it one of the top five games he'd ever seen in his time. With the Celtics took the guy's been around for a little while and an unbelievable performance by the team, win of the Year Jayson. Tatum unbelievable and they come back yesterday. Last night, they lose against Portland, they fall by 10, Kemba Walker, still sidelined, fourth straight game Myst. And then the final minute, the final minute of what was, obviously a very winnable game, very entertaining game. For the most part, still, obviously, the Reps got involved there late and it kind of skewed everything but they're just in this injury-plagued season. You see Jayson, Tatum and Jaylen Brown, so fittingly poetically, delighting dead. In both leaving with injuries. Now it's entirely possible. Neither one, a serious, Tatum spoke post-game. He said, he's okay. We don't have a concrete update right now on brown, maybe both will be out there for this next game. Good Lord what we've seen from this sample of late to take us just perfectly into where we are in this season. Shunt. Yeah. What a week that that does sort of song of the Season especially the injury thing and you know, if you say this then then then people all you're making excuses for them, you're doing this, you doing that. But I have never seen a team that is a good team and a contending team. You know, you see this happen too terrible teams and they become, you know, they go and get the first or second pick in the draft. The following year from a contending team from a team that that is, you know, among the top, you know, let's say Ten teams in the league. I've never seen this kind of year, you know, they've had 32 starting lineups in what time. 65 games, 32 starting lineups at 6:00 and they haven't used the same starting five more than four games in a row. It's pretty incredible. The, the most common starting 5 debuts was for 10 games and that was more, the Tice lineups early on, in the early on in the season. You know, so look injuries aren't an excuse but they are a real life for lack of chemistry. A lack of understanding how to play with each other, a lack of understanding. Okay, what's going to happen when we get in tough situations? When we're in adversity, you know, knowing what to do, knowing what to expect from this guy that guy when you haven't played together then you don't have that sort of that that Comfort level and I think what we see over and over and over again, with this team will get frustrated great and say what? They're not trying. I don't think that's it. They don't have the chemistry that don't have the knowledge of each other. So they get in these tough situations and they, they take bad shots, they take, they jack up, threes that they shouldn't off. Acting up. They take contested mid-range shots because they get themselves in a situation where the ball's not moving, they don't know what to do and they wind up with the bad shot. Yet, you know, people don't realize how quick those 24 off when you're when you're out on the floor. When those, you know, when you're under pressure like that and I think if you just haven't been in those situations with the guys around you, then then you're going to get some of the the ugly decision-making that we see from the Celtics all too often. And as, as well, as a plague yesterday, it was a good, you know, they lost by 10:00 but but it was a really well-played game, really on both sides of the fall off. But you did see some of the bad decision-making, Marcus Smart, and, and others, making some bad decisions lately, like late in that game. I think a lot of that is just this team is not playing with each other. Yeah, I just it's really look at. I mean, look at what 48 said. I have to gain last night, right? He talks about how he doesn't feel like a hundred percent back. He feels first off the fact that he feels bad about not getting covid-19, putting the steel situation. I mean, look, this, this particular virus. We've we were here and we still don't understand everything about it. You get it off fortunate, but you don't need to apologize to team for missing time. It just means a lot that he's, you know, try to come back in front of trying to get better while his team tries to figure itself out and get himself playoff. Ready? After I get back from this thing is, you talked about? It feels like he has a concussion. His depth perception is all off of the last night of the terrific, shoot the Bush on the ball, very well as side. But he's it's just look at that. You, look at Jack Tatum mistaken inhaler before games to get his lungs, right? You have Kemba Walker getting managed for a knee injury, the entire season and Strange's. Oblique, what was a very weird play. It's just it's a disaster wage. And it's like you know, Rob Williams is managing some sort of, you know, nagging injury Jaylen Brown's nursing to nagging injuries. It's in the ad the one last night to just, you know, for the cause but we've we've tried all season and we've had a myriad of guests John's been on a bunch of trying to figure out what is wrong. Is it coaching? Is it, is it just is the Personnel, is it players? It's maybe, can we admit that the whole of this whole season? That's been, you know, if you look at the injury numbers and how many games been lost to injury, that sucks are running away with that particular statistic Dallas. And second has also been decimated by injuries and covid-19 A couple that you know, bad calls last night, including Tristan Thompson's gold ten which was an absolute disaster, a joke in real time. The fact that have led forever review that after whatever. It's just maybe we're not getting any, we're not playing into that particular story. Like it's lame but maybe that's really what's going on here as John? Alluded to the chemistry's off and that might be a big reason why you're you have guys trying to fill roles. Not normally used to feeling, I mean, you know, Jason Tatum scoring $60 a night, which was unbelievable. Do we also wanted time with the fact that it was necessary for him to take 38 shots in a game because it just the way they're often selected times. You don't want just get the ball at a time and just get out of the way and might be the best often. So, you know, I don't like making the injury excuse for any team, you know, regardless, it's a 2008 and Brady goes down and week. One, where tears? ACL. Yeah, the season's over after that, I don't like to make excuses in basketball, but this might be the year to use that, cuz this is ridiculous. How many different starting wage. 32 is ridiculous for, again, it's a truncated season two smaller season, and they've had 32 starting lineups. It's it's frustrating, but at the same time, it's like, it is what it is in in Boston's had to make the best of it. Just hasn't gone their way at all really this year. I wonder if it gets to the point to where, you know, everything that you've both highlight and I don't think enough attention, quite frankly, can be spent on the 48 stuff, listening to him, postgame, it just frankly, it's not that scary, you know, out there at certain a frightening for anyone that either has had covert or still lives in fear of getting covid-19. Or whatever it may be. If we just we spend time with the average in last show talking about expectations, ultimate expectations for this team and saying that it just runs the gamut, you know? And any you could paint any scenario and none at this point in time. Would really be all that surprising. Do we just have to sit back and this is just this is not how sports fans are built off, but we're not how we're wired do we just need to sit back and say whatever happens happens, man because the it's it's just impossible to even feel one way or another about this team and it's hard to even get angry at this time anymore. I had so much anger toward this team throughout much of the season but now as we get to this point and everything that has unfolded you just kind of have to say all right sometimes it's just not your year man. I don't know what you're supposed to do about it. Yeah, yeah I agree with that and and you know some of this does go back to the NBA itself. The way that they've Approached the season, and the fact that, that, that were playing this season, the way we are. And, and whether that was a good idea to begin with the come back before Christmas and, and and get situated. Then, you know, when they're there, weren't vaccines and there were, you know, the whole covert thing, you know, if we were starting this season, say in February, you know, it's a different sort of, it's a different sort of thing, not just in terms of training camp in that. But but now, you know, you've got vaccines, you've got, you know, a much better understanding of what's going on and you're going to have less of the this wild card of covid-19. For for starting this thing and the players agreed to it. I'm not saying it's all just biggest players to the players. Been fought and fought them a little harder on that. But they didn't, you know, they they all wanted the way the financial benefits of starting early. So, you know, some of this is just, this is the way this season was set up. It's not limited to the South. I think the Celtics have been hit harder by it than anybody else in the league, but it's really not limited to them. You look at Miami in the situation they've been in, you know, obviously a very disappointing year. But you know a lot of that's been because of covid-19 has been in a similar sort of situation. And and you know teams that have you know Utah has has had practically a clean bill of health all year and that's one reason why they're the best team in the league. So you know, I'm always going to be a factor but just seems like because of the way the NBA set things up this year, it was always going to be a much, much bigger Factor this time around than than any other time around. So those things sit right now, you have the Celtics seventh in the Eastern Conference and again, for anyone that is unfamiliar with the play and tournament the way, this works is first six teams in each conference, guaranteed a spot in the postseason. Thursday is 7 to 10. You're going to have those teams square off and obviously to will emerge for the seven and eight seeds. And two will find themselves in the lottery. So the Seas right now would be part of the plan a tournament, but it's just, it's so close. It is so close right now. You know, the 4th through 8th seeds through Sunday. Of course, as we talk here, Monday morning, you have the Knicks who you know, granted life they're playing above their heads, credit to them. You have the Hawks a game and half behind them in fifth and sixth the Heat and other half came back. Then the Celtics in seventh just a half-game out of 6, 2, and 1/2 and a fourth in the Hornets or a couple of games to be on. The Celtics are sitting in eight Sosa's. You know, you'd you'd love to see them avoiding a first-round match up with Milwaukee obviously if that's possible. You know, getting up to that 4 or 5 seed, but I mean man, like as of right now, what is it? Washington. I think that maybe it would be their matchup. I'd have to pull it up and look at, it doesn't really matter. I believe that's what it is. Yeah, they play Washington right now, if the season ended. So as we know the lot that happens off before then, but even I think that plays Charlotte and when they when they go 7 8 and then the 910 play each other, is that what it's dropped you now? Yeah. So it's so that would Intrigue, you know, one game playoff there right in Boston and in Charlotte. No doubt. But yeah. So, Boston replaced Charlotte and then the winner of that automatically get 7 and then a loser would play either into your Washington. So it's just, you know, a part of it, obviously to that point a little bit confusing for, for some that have been paid off. No daily attention to it, as so many have out there. Stressing over the play and tournament. I personally, you know, I've, I've never been a fan of the play in tournaments. I've said that in the show, so this is not me being LeBron or Mark Cuban or whatever else. You know, saying, as soon as your team is afflicted, by it, all of a sudden, we hate the play and tournament, we can get to that. But as it relates to the Celtics, I mean, what is the most nevermind like best case scenario wage? But that is, what how do you think this unfolds? Do you feel like this is just an inevitability into the play in tournament right now? No, I think I think they'll they'll pull themselves up, you know, at least two number six months, do the rest of their schedule is very, you know, some of this is going to depend on Jaylen Brown and how his ankle is and and and whether they decide, you know, we'd be better off going into play and tournament and a black and brown, you know, eight to ten days off. You know, if they do that they wind up in the plan tournament, maybe he's healthy and and, and, and that's just how it goes, you know? So some of that's going to depend on that page. And I think the rest of the schedule is easy enough that they should be, you know, they've got two games against Miami. Those are going to be obviously, really, really important. But, you know, and you look at the rest of that, they have very winnable games across the board, and I would think that they'd be able to, to do enough to pull themselves out of that. So like you said, it's such a slim margin that way, you know, you gotta think that that one of those other teams with the tougher schedule, obviously the Knicks have a really tough schedule, remaining going on the road and all that. But yeah, you know, I think the Celtics should be able to do just enough to pull themselves out of that 7 spot and avoid that plant. Yeah, I almost think you can rest everybody though at this point just because like I've come to the conclusion that page and it was kind of evident a while ago and I forget what game I said it but it was like if this team isn't have everybody together the chemistry and like the body language and the effort just looks off. But when everybody's together, They have great energy when they're not like, it just seems weird. So, you know, as we get closer to the playoffs my point was if they're not going to play, you know, to the energy level you to play with and without a like who cares. Like if it's just one of those things like if their health if everybody's healthy and and they're you know, if they have their full complement of their roster and they're a good shot to be anybody like like I'm not even trying to be a homer about this. They found a lot of great talent on that team and they play well together when everyone in the floor. But the problem is nobody's ever healthy enough to to see what it looks like for four games in a row. So why don't you just think that, you know, God because if you're especially if you're gonna rest Jaylen Brown a lot. You know the guy that I feel bad for is Jayson Tatum who's you're dealing with covid-19. Get to a higher seed because it feels like more gratifying. And for the fourth seed, instead of being the 7th. Again, at this point, I'm so reserved to say, like whatever. If this team is healthy, come playoff time. They're, they're one team or not. They have zero shots. So we might as well just get pretty healthy play that game and, and keep it the playoffs. Hopefully trying to have your full roster and to get a point. Having like if imagine being Philadelphia wage and Celtics do wind up number 7 and they get the win, the playing game and they come in healthy and you know the Sixers and you've had this great year and you look and you know great and we got this up Exceed great, you know, I would not to be Philadelphia playing the Celtics in the first round of the playoffs. Not after year, the Philadelphia sad. And and, and the way that the Celtics have played them in the postseason the past. Yeah, I agree with that page. Again, if you're going to play em beat, and you're going to play Ben Simmons and and Tobias Harris and get Doc's in a great job that Team all season long, you know, you're not going to beat that team look and feeds going to score forty years. Anyway, doesn't matter what you do, but you're going to need some fire popular side. And if you're if you have it fully rested, Kemba Walker. If you haven't fully rested, Jaylen Brown, and you've been able to find ways to give Tatum nights off, then you could at least go toe-to-toe with them with Firepower, and say, hey out of all the teams that are left here, you know, we feel the most comfortable playing you guys. You got so much, you know, successes against you guys in the past. I mean, I thought I would be okay with it and if they went down to the league MVP or I kind of would have wanted if you get hurt. I'm okay with that. I'm totally fine with that, considering how the seasons gone off again. I'm with you. 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Again, the promotion code is clns. 50, been online, your online Sportsbook experts. So, you know, told some people on Twitter, you were going to be on the show here. Sean. And someone asked, and maybe you saw this quote, you probably weren't surprised to see it from footnotes, a loyal listener, the program, Sean claimed last season, Celtics were better off without Gordon. Hayward does he care to amend? I feel like I know how you're going to answer this question and I don't even necessarily disagree with it but I want to hear it. No, I don't care to amend. I do believe that song That they were always going to need someone else. I just didn't think that that guy was Gordon Hayward that that you know, if you were able to pull off upside down for him, then that would have been ideal my point with him was always that he duplicated too much, what Tatum and brown do that, that there's not enough differentiation, they need that. It was never going to be happy as as a fourth option and that you needed somebody who fit the roles that have been established within this team. I still believe that I, you know, look with the way things have gone because of the injuries and because of all the absences who are in Hayward, you would have been, it would have been great to have him but when you look at the team and the way that this team is structured, I still think he doesn't really feel that that he is a guy who, you know, you're, you're struggling to take a another sort of wing combo forward guy, and put them on the floor and and you know, that's off. For the rules on this team. I just don't think he was ever really the ideal guy. And when they brought him in, they didn't know what they had with brown and Tatum, and he didn't know. And and and so bringing them in made sense, but I think letting them go made sense to, you would have liked to have gotten a little bit more for him, obviously than than the than the trade exception and turning that into Evan Fournier. So I certainly wish they may have a healthy Gordon Hayward and it's important to phrase it that way because he's heard for Charlotte right now. I mean the guy unfortunately he just can't stay on the floor. I didn't we've had the Hayward discussion so may times. We don't need to have it again here. I didn't expect you to amend. Obviously, what I did think you were going to bring up is that, you know, Evan Fournier, if you were the guy that they traded for anyway. And it's not his fault and everything that's come along since the inconsistency in all else. So obviously, we hope that you know, he is able to get right for for the team's sake, mostly for his sake for, you know, all the different reasons. But if he woke God, they dealt for that, they got from Orlando, he would have come in and kind of been Hayward light and some of the best ways I imagine in your eyes compared to some of the ways that took away from Tatum and brown. Obviously, he would have come in and certainly no name is role as more of a support of Peace than a focal peace and it would impact what we've seen from this team over the course of the last month and half but he just hasn't been able to be that guy. Yeah yeah I mean it's certainly if we were to shoot the way that he shot in his best games, you know when we've seen him at his best you know right before he went out certainly last night you know I thought it was 648 last night I mean again you take that short. Yeah if right so I think anybody should say 80% you welcome that on your team but no I mean that's nice but you're right and you probably you know if if things had gone right and you're able to maybe get two players because there's still money left on that, on that trade exception, if you're able to get two players club, Out of that deal, you know, another role player, whether it's a big guy, over whatever it may be, you know, then then I would get, I would still say that they're better off and and you know, 7:40 a.m. is a much better role player. For what this team is than, than what Gordon Hayward was ever going to be even, never going to be happy as the fourth option and, and, and, you know, he's off said that. And, and, and that's that's that's again, they, they didn't know he was going to be the fourth option when they signed him. And, and I don't think there's any hard feelings for for him, you know, long ago and and, and take on a bigger role in the spirit of guys emerging though. And even it's all the more impressive quite frankly, in the wake of covid-19, the inhaler and pull that haven't talked about before with Jayson, Tatum what he is doing right now and and the 60 point game, not even, you know, like being the fixture. Obviously, that was an unbelievable game. 61 dead. That was an ad one. Yeah, you go should not robbed like him home Wilt. Yeah. It's a big thing though of of the, the all-time leader and a game fowl Celtics. That's true accomplishment. No, it's yeah. It's a big deal. And I'm not, you know, certainly dismissing any of it. It's been unbelievable to watch but even more. So the boss makes it all the more impressive is that it's not just this isolated, you know, boy what a great game from Jayson Tatum and then whatever, he gives you 20 the next night or something. He's on this three-game run right now home where he's what matched or or even exceeded Larry Bird in. In total points in the three-game stretch for the most and Celtics history. He has, what is it for straight 20-point? Happen is just on this this otherworldly run right now, a lot of it is Evan said before has been out of necessity, obviously with the team shorthanded but hey that's just been the case all year. But are you seeing anything right now? Sean off. And as well that you know you feel like you haven't seen from Tatum before even during that stretch last year pre bubble where he was playing out of his mind. You know, I, I think that So I think there's kind of one thing, but but in too fast it's one is that I think his decision making is is getting much sharper and and getting sharper all the time. So I think there's that and that is just part of maturing and and you know, having been a young guy and and and learning, you know, making the mistakes and learning from it. But I think the other thing is that his mistakes now are subsets. He's going to put himself in a, in a position where even his mistakes, even when he gets into a bad shot, he's still in a position to make a shot. You know, he's schedule is, is bad decisions aren't as bad as they used to be. I guess that's a good way to put in, so, you know, even when he puts himself or his forced into that position because like you say, you know, what else is making shots, you know, he he seems better able to handle that and that's, that's that physical maturation. So I think there's there's there's the mental aspect where I think it's decision, making the sharp real song. Physically, he has not developed in such a way that that he knows how to get himself just enough room. Even when he has to take a shot and it probably shouldn't be taken off. One of the big things I like recently, and I agree with the decision. Making is a big thing, you know, his ability to attack immediately instead of weight and like survey with the guys goes like know, you you you you attack, you let him adjust, you know, adjust and one of the things I I want to bring up which is very huge if you go back to 4 9, this is the run that he's been on Earth. There's one exception of a very weird game against the Lakers in which just a weird game on the road. I think we all watch that and we're just it was just bizarre and how the Celtics bench almost gave up on 27-point lead at one point that game. But going back that game against Minnesota free throw attempts. 16810 0 against that, the Lakers, then 88778 17 music to my ears. That's one, that's what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a guy that gets to the free-throw line, because he's such a good free-throw, shooter get some in Rhythm as a shoot. One of the things that people I think don't take a lot of. I just don't think that's a long, cuz I hear people like, oh, that side, step three that Tatum takes off the dribble, is a great shot and I'm like, yeah, because he makes it a lot, but you also to understand time and Circumstance, life, Adams, over five and takes that shot to go over 6 or 1 for six. That's a bad shot in my opinion because he needs to get Rhythm. And a lot of times, guys, get rid of by going to the free throw line and knocking down, three or four in a row. Then all of a sudden these guys are unworldly Shooters especially today, like they're just the shooting now is outrageous. I mean, Tatum's shot again the step back thirty years Under that, he cakes makes regularity. So then she same shot. That twenty years ago, people weren't taking multiple times a game on purpose. So it's like one of these things where if Tim just a free throw line and establishes that Rhythm early on in the game it allows him to be a much better shooter. So when he's you know taking those contested 3-pointers they go in a lot more when it's just rhythms when he's not and if he's not in Rhythm and he takes that shot and he misses it, it's a bad shot cuz I always knew was finally of the freezer life. They're easy points. Just no defense, no time off the clock and Tamsin age shooter. So that's number that gets me the most excited guys. So I want to make sure especially in the interests of times, we've got you about 10 more minutes or so, and, and I do want to get to the LeBron and and Cuban comments and all that stuff as well. But Evan off, at least at least once a show. I'm going to say something stupid Well here. Here's today's, okay. So over this last three game Run, we've seen as we just talked about Jayson, Tatum play absolutely out of his mind, but these have still been close games, you know, they didn't even win the Portland one, as we know the other, you know, they needed the overtime Victory to come back from down, 32, in the 60-point effort, a demand obviously that's chocolate game as well. So Tatum has been great and that's where it's at. Its, you know, what else? And while the, and here is an acronym, folks, it's Aaron Nesmith dominance, that's what it is. Aaron Nesmith, dominated on because you can't, you can't win these games right now or even be closed in these games right now, without error Nesmith, that is not even overstating. It that is just a real job. The rookie has gotten comfortable, he's got an opportunity, he's made shots. And the way that he is shot, you look at, you know, his game, log over these last few. You know, you get that that 15-point game against Charles. It's, it's all my God. We've never seen anything like this from Aaron Nesmith so far in this rookie year, you know, early on it was Payton Pritchard when Smith Nesmith going to contribute, you know, he's always been heart, hustle energy all that. But when he's home, he actually going to put the ball you know in the cylinder. Well fifteen and then sixteen each of the last two games. So he is on a good consistent run right now and, you know, the field goals six out of seven, seven out of nine six out of twelve. He's hitting you know, almost all of us. Three pointers. He's a total of what's the 8th for 8 for 12 from 3? He's not getting to the free-throw line. He's rebounding the ball, by the way, in the three games, he has a total of 19 rebounds and this is all while he's getting himself into horrible foul trouble. He's coming with in one foul of fouling out in all three of these games. So which again, speaks in part, I mean birth. Erratic but it speaks in part again to just the the energy, the mindset, what he needs to bring. I think there's a reason and I'm paraphrasing. The tweet that Marcus Smart tweeted out the other day saying, yeah, I mean taters playing out of mine. This is awesome but like, let's celebrate, Erin E Smith and what he's doing right now because he is just such a big part of what his leading to any sort of Victories that we're getting here during this stretch. I don't think we've talked enough about what he's doing lately. Yeah. And and it's it's rare. I mean, you see this kind of thing from a rookie on a team that's out of contention. That's that's not playing for, you know, that that they get a chance late in the year and and and garbage games and they put up numbers, this guy is putting up numbers in important situations for a team that he hasn't done much for all year. You know that that like you said he's had some some flashes here and there but certainly has not been as good as shooter as we've seen lately and as good as Shooters, he's supposed to be coming out of college that was the big, you know, the big benefit of him off. Orlando really wanted him to pick after the Celtics took him number. I think something's left. Fourteen Glenda was filled out fourteen. So yeah, you know, he wasn't didn't get past 1015, Celtics draft in a 14. And then for, you know, the first 75% of the seasons we've we've said, you know, what's with this guy but, you know, now you kind of see why teams really liked him on both ends of the floor, you know, pretty good defensive player too. And you know, just just his ability to knock down shots that, that is something that long I've been waiting for. I know most Celtics fans have been waiting for all year and again, you just don't really see this kind this kind of sudden production on a good team off rookie late in the year, it really does add a new wrinkle when the playoffs do start. And and you know teams, you know, if you're if you're going to play the Celtics early on in the playoffs and and and you haven't log Chance or, you know, you will have had a chance to scout most of their guys. You you're not going to have much on our net on our Nesmith and, you know, you can be a little bit of a wild card berth in that postseason, who would have thought he'd be part of the rotation too, right? Yeah. But I said at the beginning of the year, when he wasn't playing that much his only because defensively, he was a disaster and, you know, it's thumbs with practice playing time and play with your teammates, communication chemistry, all that stuff. And at the time I said, look, he's if he can't shoot and he's not going to play cuz he has no idea what he's doing defensively right now. And we know how much Brad values defense and if he's not going to have shots and he's complete negative out there. What you're seeing now is he is played enough to get comfortable on the floor, shoot in the bath and now that he's shooting the basketball, better gives you an opportunity to play him a little bit more, and as he gets more comfortable with his teammates, just going to get better defensively. He's a good athlete. He's got length. He's got sized dog. So it's not like he's going to be a total stiff out there. Defensively, he has the tools to be a good Defender and just takes time to get up, you know. Again this is a guy who played half a season in college and if it had no training camp, it just essentially walked up and gave the speed of the game is way different. So, you know, he got a lot of flack for getting picked up 14, especially with siddiq been going a little bit later who has been tremendous to Detroit and I love Sadiq. But Danny saw a guy that could really hit shots and maybe has some potential that we haven't seen yet. And what you're seeing now is a guy named deals with more confident, the floor kind of feels when it bought with a ball. You know what do you think about need for that? He knows his role. My role is, I need to hit open shots and hit open, threes need to be in this spot. Just in case I gave him a brown, get cut off, or, or smart gets cut off from making a drive. I need to be here. I need to fill this Gap, and I need to hit this shot. That's how he survives. And what you're also getting is is that the dog Energy plays that he provides you just on the glass, you know, offensive and defensive rebounding, from have been bigamy. Had to put back the other night. It was, you know, he came out of nowhere to grab it, put it back or like that's a great choice. Great smart anyway. Why rookies? Trying to figure it out still. So again, if they get anything from him, especially this part of the year, end of the postseason, that's a win, considering what they've got on him so far. The Pritchard wage is a huge wind. I love the way he plays. He's a perfect like Scrappy, you know, third guard, they have. He's going to play Big minutes, not just this year, but in years to come, but the Nesmith emerges or emergencies, in general, has been awesome and because he's hitting shots, he stay on the floor. And if he continued to do that this team that can continue to grow around a little bit, they can insert him a different lineups and things but it's been encouraging the past couple of games. Just looking ahead at some, what's to come here? So before we do get out of here and I guess I could have sprinkle it in with the play and tournament conversation before. But Sean, what do you make of sort of the league-wide perception of the plane tournament. You have Mark Cuban, some of the Mavs being, you know, very vocal about not liking it. LeBron saying, whoever came up with, you know, this belief should be fired, but we're, you know, as in others have tweeted this and this was the first thing I tweeted. When I saw the comments from LeBron last night, you know, these comments. Just don't hold water with the timing. If you had said that the beginning of the Season, sure, you know, you've made your opinion known when you don't think it's going to affect you, and then she does. And then you say, it's, you know, then you just look soft quite frankly, you know, afraid of a 1 gameplay in to get into the tournament here. Now I don't, I don't like to play in tournament either. I think it's actually grateful League. I think it's great to you know, keep more and more fan base has invested in interested in their teams success ultimately than has done in the past. You know you don't have any of those teams dead At this the whole idea is preventing or limiting tanking while you're seeing a lot more of that. Obviously, more of these teams, most teams right now are within Striking Distance of the play internment, and seems like a lot to be there. Now, maybe that is unique to this year, but it feels like to play in. Tournament is around to stay. How do you feel about it just, you know, I don't know surface-level and and what we should expect going forward. Yeah, you know, I I actually like it, you know, I think that as we've seen in the past, you know there you're going to get some teams that you know, Jesus Remember maybe eight nine ten years ago in the Western Conference he'd have teams that 147 games and it didn't have a crack at the playoffs. You know, you're going to get things like that and and yeah, I have no problem with expanding it a little bit off, giving more teams in opportunity and, and going from there, you know, it's it's not a huge, you know, it's, it's, it's a few games. It's it's it's, you know, two maybe three games wage Four at the most and and and you know that's that's it. So it's not it's not something that is, you know, very intrusive. But it does add a little bit of an element a little bit of a wrinkle reminds me of a wild card. When when baseball brought in the wild-card, the purists were their heads were exploding. And, you know, this is the end of the world as we know it and then people saw the wild card and and and saw some often said well this isn't so bad and and of course you know you'd never think of taking it away now and and you know I kind of think it's it's going to be that way in the NBA that within a few years you just it just needs to be how things are. But you're right about some of the hypocrisy here that, you know, LeBron one year ago was saying, you know, they should have something where the 6th seed plays the 10th, see all these teams that are so close. And now that he's got one of the states is involved, of course, Mark Cuban voted for it as a member of the Board of Governors. This thing passed unanimously so he dead Voting for it. But yeah so it's it is it is funny how the tune changes when when it affects you when you're not expecting it to but at the same time I still think it's it's anything to get more teams involved and you can have a way like this to to keep the tanking at a minimum. I think it's a good thing real quick on this. Just before we got, here is a know, we're trying not here at this point but just just how long I agree with what John said, I'm all about the stuff. I love the wild card and baseball 04. Red Sox obviously are a team that's near and dear to my heart wild-card team. But I loved think about this way from A Team Planning standpoint and I know they didn't win. They didn't make it. But think about the Phoenix Suns last year, right? They go meeting on the bubble. They just missed the cut off right off. Do they make the Chris Paul move? If they don't go ain't now and see this teammate might have something. So they, you know, they, they were a joke. They they went eight on the bubble, they got real close getting in the playoff, didn't quite make it, but you knew something might be there. And then all of a sudden Phoenix the options that go with Chris Paul, they bring him in. Now they're going to be maybe the one seen the West. So just to I might you look it might be b s for some teams like oh, shouldn't make a bit of this, but if you were these teams, it's down towards the bottom and you get into the the, you know, the eight of the nine or the 10th seed and you somehow Met Em, B, A playoffs. You get a nice run to see your teams like a playoff basketball. It might change the Outlook and the offices and your team say, hey maybe we'd be more aggressive here. Maybe we have something that we, as going to work and money to build on this rather than, you know, kick the kid on there a couple of years. I think it's fine. And I think the Phoenix Suns, the bubble sons, who were amazing last year and they're the biggest advocate for it. They went from home. Team that was relatively not thought about to a team that acquired Chris Paul in his going to, you know, be a real factor in the west this year. I love it. I'm more of it please. Yeah. Washington could be exactly situation. You know that that same situation like Phoenix last year. It is funny. How just in in recent years, Chris Paul was looked at as such as just all that Albatross of a contract and not, you know, who wants them? And who's even going to deal for him yet? Winning follows the guy. Maybe not all the way to a championship, but certainly regular-season. Turnarounds winning. Absolutely follows Chris Ball. All the graphics are out there all the stats or something else. So John before we let you go, these final seven games here at Orlando on Wednesday. Hopefully, there's a possibility Canvasback hopefully Tatum's out there ideally Brown, although, and we don't even know the specifics of his injury. What it was that that happened when he collided with Satan, but we know he was already dealing with a sprained, right? Ankle. So they made just played safe and not play him. Even if he is generally speaking, okay? And you know, would play in a playoff game. If that were going on or something like that, but in Orlando, Wednesday against the rebuilding magic you have at Chicago on Friday, couple of games with Miami. As you mentioned, both at the Garden and then the seasonal wrap up with a free Road games and Cleveland in Minnesota, and in New York, how many of these seven to the Celtics need to win to avoid the play in tournament? You think you know, I think they need to win four and I think four is Sneezy then you know five and two is is is realistic. You know, even even with the the game against the Knicks and the two against the Heat, you know, they should be able to go forward three. I think that's enough to get them especially when you look at some of the other schedules, that's enough to get them out of that 70. I think they could realistically go five and two though either with the some of the injuries that they're dealing with, but probably go seven and O and do pasand thinking Championship contenders. Again, what just, just wait, folks, just wait, if it happens. You heard it here first. All right, the show again, brought to you, by betonline.ag go to bed online, dog. You today and use the promo code, clns 54, fifty percent. Sign up bonus, as always are things to em Valenti. I'm Adam Kaufman subscribed rate review, all that good stuff. Ourselves to speak. We hope to do. And Johnny thanks as always for joining us. Okay, thanks guys. All right, new show coming again later. This week it'll be a to 4 week after we were a little lazy last week. Thanks for hanging out. Off.

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Celtics beat Thunder, Andre Drummond Likely Lakers Bound

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Celtics beat Thunder, Andre Drummond Likely Lakers Bound

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But you know ultimately, you know, all good things come to an end and you did some things, you know, he did some things. He he was fine as we like to say he was fine. Yeah God hears but it's like if you don't watch it some guy named cornets just going to come take your job and that's what happened a sudden 7-footer. We'll just sneak up on you and take your job. Just like this big your job might not might never touch the floor again. It doesn't take much. So you knew Brad Stevens is going to find a way to not play Rob right now. He's he's already seen enough. He's already this robbing the depth chart so it when it comes down to who's starting next it's either going to be Thompson or cornet am ready for Moses. Look at this morose MF right here. I can't hear anybody see what happens Thursday. Barbecue or regular? That's a good word. I don't know that word. What morose morose? Yeah Google that off. Now. It just it didn't really apply. It's more of a movie quote than anything. It just means kind of grumpy but about movies but it's came from look at 6. Tomorrow's Syracuse 12. Hi Jimmy looking good. It's hot at all, please visit Alberta jersey with the was a dice game. Now, that's Shane Victorino. The Horford ones just Fallen. I know Horford decided to take a brief retirement here at the end of the year. So I thought you knowed for a jersey God. That's weird. I was always a big fan of him with the Phillies. I was thrilled with him. He's legitimately crazy like bipolar crazy. Yeah, and we saw that at the end of a send you here, but you got the good side in 2013. What you said about being just felt on its own though, or you did that? Yeah, it's just drop down I get back that's assignments a basketball. I see maybe that's what it was. Yeah, you're going to welcome to be back. I'm going to rearrange my squares cuz this is how it works. I don't need this guy. I thought did we give him the bad news? Yeah, I fired him. Oh, yeah the screws up. My audio thinks he can just Waltz on in here whenever he feels like it when they used is going to get smoked out of the building tonight. Based on the last time. I saw the score vs why he's here, it's good. That is why Siri said well if they're getting smoked they'll pop on, thanks Bobby. Thanks for gracing us with your presence as your team collapses. All right, just a little morose. It's yeah, that's morose right there. That's that's legit. And what's what's going on with Weatherford goes way. I don't really like this. Same same twenty six straight games send a year. I mean it's one thing if you're going to decided but well, you know that early that management doesn't mess around. I mean, they're not going to force themselves into a tray that they don't agree with. I think that's what happened. I mean, let's face it. We need to hear from much Rumblings about Al Horford rumors anyways to begin with so I think that alone just showed you how the market was for out and they trying to put them out back out there. Don't mean it like that. They're trying them out there like, you know, like he doesn't have my goodness. Yeah good basketball. There are very careful with it. Right Bobby. They won't put him out there every single game. Like they were saving it making them look as sweet as possible, you know sell him and look I still think how has you know plenty left. It's just that contract. No one wants to pick up that contract. Yeah, well, that's I mean you get the feeling they basically the conversation went something like this. Hey Al thinking of buying you out cool, you know, give me my sixty million and I'm good and they're like, well not not that much. Well, I'm just going to sit here and I'm going to ride the stationary bike for twenty six games and you'll figure out what you want to do with me in the off-season. We'll Circle back in a couple of months. Yeah, that's it. So this is what you're going to need somebody to take him, right? This is where they have this where they have the opportunity, right? They've got a thousand draft picks that through Thursday and they're going to basically trade him and they're going to pay somebody to take them and give away a couple of the deadline. I mean that I guess it's easier doing the off season cuz you know, because next you have one season and then he's reduced that second year is like 15 million or something so that second season of palatable. So I think you can eat it there, but you're right why wouldn't one team take maybe just off. You know taxes trying to fit it in now trying to get under the cap. Probably a lot of teams could not have squeezed his number in there right now. So it's probably rough but maybe next season you can yeah, that's a good night. Are you getting at the tell you to jump in on this? Is that what you're getting a job now? I mean, yeah you wish they could too much. Yeah. There's been too much money on marginal players as it off. I mean, it's tough. You would love to have this last like year or two that it feels like you still got real quality playing them. But the number just went up way too high when you went over to Philly and became all but impossible him in he I know he was your big t t Target just way but I don't know he was twenty-eight Million was just insane and whatever it is, I think it's 26. So it's too bad. I just thought I understand it from these teams perspectives, but like drum and sitting all year the way he did and missing like probably a third of the season and Horford now going to miss a fourth. I know they're not the stars of The League. These are really good players that are enjoyable to watch and they're just sitting on the sidelines cuz these teams on a tank but let's get let's let's do the game a little bit tonight before we get into all the other stuff cuz we have a few things to discuss any addition to this. You've got the buyout Market situation, which who needs a big now that you've got Cornett, right? Absolutely. That was interesting. So we were going to get in to drop off a little bit. We're going to get into this was supposed to be the debut of Evan Fournier, but he's in the health and safety protocols and WTF with that, you know, like I mean, let's go ahead and do that to let's hope me that was a came into contact on the way over here as opposed to like a a two to three weeks. I'm hoping it's a precocious precautionary protocol situation where you know, He's he's he's around but if he's in here for two or three weeks, you got a rental player for two months and he could miss up to a month. That would be terrible. No, not a bad. He got bad seed on JetBlue coming up from Orlando wage-price. Unbelievable. Did Romeo pick them up at the airport guys? I'm not complaining here. We what do you guys want to see him contaminate the half the roster or whatever room he ends up in a commune. Yeah. Everyone else has gotten it. It's on what I was going through the names. I don't think they have any left. They lead the league in Ms. Markovic days. Then Jason trisch like four times. Does he have any? Oh, do we even though Romeo shavonda? I mean, he's gone. Yeah, I mean Brown Tatum, Probably said those guys. I mean, who knows who else that? You know, Carson had it who else was in there? Rob was in the protocol Rob had it back to see all of them. I think you talked and most of the rosters at least spend in the protocol. I think they've had a grandparent Grant was in there. Yeah. I mean, I mean, this is insane. I think yeah, I mean Massachusetts might be one of the worst states would covid-19 to the Celtics anyways other numbers. Anyways, anyway, so we get into the game. This could have been a nightmare. I was literally like Bobby had to keep telling us who these players were on Oklahoma City, you know like let's say, how may I take your name right off the bat here. I was going on below zero. This was it doesn't get your program sort of game. This was like a broadcaster and they sent me to the Olympics and they're like do team Handbags and I'm like, okay, you know like and you're just sitting there like, you know, it was that pathetic and I felt like boom goes the dynamite guy tonight. I was like fast to the man takes a shot. This guy off his dunks out of nowhere with like Gumby like little dude. He dumped so hard his body crumble that he had to take it finally came after them believable. You really did though. He was Harriet. I've never done this before you got her a map. I mean these guys were these guys brought it, right? They brought the energy and I Gotta Give You Gotta give props to the Celtics and the second the second unit for coming in with that energy because I mean this thing could really got out of hand and took have if it wasn't for that modestly and that started with paper Richard paying for it was huge for the Celtics and that first guy annoy Riot. Yeah. This is probably going to be as first I was thinking going into the night though Bobby little a couple of Threes, you know, okay, maybe it's warming up a big party I guess but tonight but I know we haven't even said Boston Tea Party and like a month. He hasn't been at the podium probably in that long. It's okay. Yeah, Danny Carr horse Brad Pritchard by trading T Force brat to play Williams by trading Tice off and theoretically for Sandra play my new favorite player Luke Cornett by trading for him as well. So Danny's Danny's The Puppetmaster right now, I think behind all these, you know guys coming out of nowhere dead. But yeah, I mean Pritchards been a guy that you know came on like gangbusters to start the season and everyone's talking about who the hell is this guy? Danny did it? You know, he found this, you know, it's so hard to hit a guy late in the draft and got hit on him, which is all true and still is but then he sort of took took a serious back seat here T was getting some you know, he was getting those those minutes that should have been going to Pritchard and when Pritchard would come in that would just sort of you know, it'd be there. It'd be a guy out in the court and you know once in a blue moon do do something of note but tonight and like Joseph said, you know felt like he was coming on last night too. But you know, the confidence was a guy that knows outside shots driving to the rim pulling up a little bit of a floater. So it's good to see that again. It's good to good to see that he still hasn't hit the rookie wall, you know completely. Yeah, that's what it was. I think honestly, I think it was really well. I mean you you couple that with the the grueling schedule the no training camp all that stuff. We've been saying over and over all season long and the the office obviously health of a bit. You know that grueling road trip. I think he kind of got lost in the middle of that, you know, the the NBA the day-to-day grind, you know, it's a it's a process for for this guy's dead guys aren't so bad. Guess. We're back to the Grind man. Yeah. I know and often times owns the only click on the ball. Let's let's get it. Let's get into the story. The story of the game has to be Moses. Come on down or net has yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's what Moses in the first half and yeah, but I mean it was it was no doubt, but I mean the Coronet thing I mean that wage The closing line up man. That was something who in the world thought Cornett was going to play the entire fourth quarter or any quarter or any minute in any interview in the game. You knew they would get involved but not that much especially in this West Coast. We didn't even think either then we're going to play in the Bucks game and then Wagner was stepped in there and played decent minutes. And then tonight this guy comes in and plays outstanding minutes. He enters the game with them down for and they basically go on a 1900 run or you know, Twenty-One to to run or something like that as soon as yeah, and that was a ball game which was incredible and like, you know section eight stops, the two threes, you know, the little Jalen I don't know if that was meant to be a pass that turns into an alley-oop their home had a you know, held up. Okay defensively. I mean and we were joking before you jumped on Bobbie. You knew Brad was going to find some way to not have robbed play some great tonight. Really got it. He got taken to him in that first half by Moses. He was all right, but yeah, he was all right that that Moses was kind of an otherworldly sort of perhaps there but the end of the day take the way the rebound stats he was five for five, you know field goals in the first half like, you know, it was it looked impressive cuz he had 19 rebounds at the half which was insane finished with Iraq even know he had like two points in the second half. He did nothing in the second half. I think he I think he had he still ends up with 23 rebounds 28% but he was fifteen and nineteen and ended up with twenty one and twenty three month. We went from 17 to 4 scoring wise and that's like an app you can make the case that he blew it for them. So, you know what, you know what she was on you had a good night. You thought you had a career night going where you live off that five five seconds between the third and the fourth 3 seconds 3-second violation. Yeah, you know, you know, that was Brad saying hey, this guy's not getting 19 rebounds. I not sit there job. They're guys, right? Yeah, take a look. We've seen people do this as something as a lot, especially the guy we're talking about last night Andre Drummond how many times yet nineteen twenty rebounds. So you knew the pace that that box has been on I was okay. It's where I like twenty boards in this one, but you gotta get process of this first keeping with it defensively. I mean, that's what it was to me at least like they kept their heads high. They didn't start chucking up shots again. Like they normally do on off and you know, or or just settle for easy or not. So easy shots, like they usually do whenever you know, they're down by double-digits, you know, so like in the problem because again, it was the second unit the younger guys Marcus was out there Marcus had a lot to do with that as well. And then I started came back in a little by little you know, they were like the ring against a different team though. This this had the makings of one of those like this was the classic back-to-back game you come out you jack a bunch of Threes. They don't go in and you shrug your shoulders and say well it's not our night. You lose my twenty and you sit the whole fourth quarter, you know, like it felt like one of those games but luckily you're playing this team wage. These guys and it just felt like one of those games that no matter what the Celtics did there was no way they weren't going to find a way to finally try for a little bit and win just from just from a sheer Personnel standpoint. You can tell when Tatum and brown were like screw it we gotta try a little and they could they could get wherever they wanted to go on their guys. And as soon as they got a little aggressive in the second half and just put their heads down and the basket then the change the whole game but they came out just kind of gunning from 3. It wasn't working. Yeah, exactly. So it's right there. That's a good idea. But we need to credit Brad Stevens for benching those guys, right? He's took him out. And when the second she kept going he wasn't quick to put them down as that big moment. Yeah Marcus Smart out there with that second unit Jayson Tatum watch because it was it Jaylin wind went too far. I mean he picked it back up and white 4714 back in the first quarter, you know, lazy start lazy 148 148 in the first quarter. Oh for five and almost literally not only lazy passes like zero passes. I mean, he literally was the classic wage. Up in the air here before you eat a look and then I'll wait. There's two Defenders there. You have to be picked off like those kind of fast as he was doing and it's just again it was when it was back to that hero ball. I'm going to try to take over and Brad ninja the buzz. I got to give a cost for that cuz he did it and then he stuck with it because he could have gotten uglier complicated. It paid off Taco. This thing tacos was fine. I thought Taco was wrong again. It's stunning how he can't like grab some of these rebounds that literally hit him. I want to say close to like in the face practically some kind of like trying to catch a tennis ball, which is probably a lot harder these guys. I imagine his hands are just massive and it might be more difficult for him to like it's going to go up all the baseball. He's so big for for a thought to get from his break. Whatever part of his body. He needs to activate just to make a play just takes so long know how to react like a game. The other guys already tapped it up in the air, you know and even though a lot closer to like the rebound so like the reaction has to be yeah, I mean, it's not like a 6-5 guard. He's seven five guys. So he's going to be quicker to every reaction. He's got the he's got the size advantage and the nerve disadvantage it is the way he rebounds or goes about rebounding. It's like, oh I can just jump off everyone right? It's like, oh, yeah. It's getting bogged down by guys literally half his size or Dan one more damn. They're close to it. You know, it's just that's what drives me crazy like you're out there and it's like off the box out and grab some boards, you know, like yeah, I read a little something recently and this has been a topic with the Celtics forever. They're actually pretty good rebounding team this year. Thank you Mom and they haven't like that doesn't correlate with wins for them. I think they're like top five and rebounding on both ends of the floor and we know before this for like fifteen years. They've been one of the most mediocre rebounding teams in the league. Are pretty good. So they're showing that around the league rebounding really hasn't correlated with winning all that much and today was another night where they really got taken to them on the boards and they still just kind of blew it away wage. You're going hard for those offensive rebounds and you're not getting back. You can just lose everything there. The defensive rebounding isn't all that much cuz a lot of teams just run back. So that's the reason. I don't know why I don't know if it's the same guy or he's just joking about him. He's joking about yes. I can't remember if yeah, if it doesn't revolve useless, it's like it's like the football adage like you gotta run the football like no you friggin don't you gotta have Patrick Mahomes, you know, like you had to throw the women were like now you don't you need Kevin Durant and James Harden and Kyrie Irving to score 90 points between them. That's what you need to win Cornett. Really? Yeah. You can't be the worst bounding team in the world like the Rockets were last year. But if you're somewhere in between the best and the worst, you're probably just leveling up with everyone else. Yeah, right. So yeah that fourth-quarter was a dick do in this game. I mean, I don't even think the Celtics played like horrendously in this game. I I mean obviously they were losing to one of the one of the worst teams in NBA throughout but that third quarter was I thought they played, you know, they started to turn off. Little bit Tatum got hot Payton was in some really nice shots in the second half some of those three pointers were just we're just silky. That's like when you're like, okay Tatum's like he has the ability to may be something special if you can just keep it keep it going in this direction like some of the shots that he hits you're just like yeah like that. That's super star level shop right there a couple of those off you guys have a job. Huh? Did you take your ADHD medicine before the show? Cuz you're I can tell you're not paying attention to anything up. No, I'm looking at I was trying to get catch up on the comments here because I've been a little bit. I want to ask you a quick question. If you have to pick one the most shocking state of the night. What is it for you? I don't know. I mean I'd have this is the most shocking state of the Night Luke Cornett eight points. I don't know. Okay, that's your guests. I have mine but it would probably is the free throws. I think your sway just threw that out there. They got to the line a little bit you cheaters do Joe sway. What is yours? I said the free-throw thing. Well, I'm sure they hit double-digits but his thoughts. Are you being sarcastic because nothing to do it for you to hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Let me look at let me let me he's going to go with plus 24-month Nissan. I just saw it right before you said it right cuz he was in with the Cornet crowd so we can't guarantee it was his choice facing reading cordinates coattails to A + 24 + 16 minutes. He was so happy of your night for nesemann those two passes the poor one. He throws over. Carson like 14 feet over his head but how is the best was question is does it was like it was like one of those like the left fielder doesn't move on like a sixty-foot run. He just sat there. Like it just knows what it was and then and then he tries too many tries to get it went to like really tries to get it to Grant in the post and there was literally known nobody there. Like it was a free entry pass and he just like whips it over it, you know, so I mean he would listen that might make second and take you can't take Nesmith + 24 or turn it into awful Nesmith segment. I won't let you do that. He actually got his hands on a couple of you had a couple I think he created a couple of turnovers late in the game or he like yeah, like he was like dude also plays out there. I'll say this about nice man. I don't know if he knows where he's going half the time but he's always going somewhere. He's always moving. He's always shake this comment. Yeah, literally though that's how it feels like where do you want me to go? What should I do yesterday? He's like the coach's kid is put him in there run around for five minutes and like good job. Good this Jason. Am I supposed to be here, you know, like no place like get him today like you did last night. Yeah. Definitely. You still not talking to me. I'm glad they got all these guys involved in this one cuz ultimately this game just ended up being in such a walk through in the end to get these Smith Edwards Pritchard, even the stuff we've talked about with the girl. They made getting all these guys minutes on a regular basis. Now, he's going to be part of what they do and sneak in Tatum and brown a little more rest once fornia gets eventually involved you'll be able to do that even more. So all of these trades just put the roster and a much better place on a couple of different fronts you already starting to see it through two wins now to know since the trade deadline and who knows when Fournier is going to show up but the priorities just going to keep rolling that seven straight home games ahead. I said this coming into this week if and who knows if Fournier is going to get involved for any of those seven games, but if they can win six or seven games on this homestand here and it's definitely a manageable stretch your head for them. They can essentially open to know if it's manageable stretch all home games. They've been pretty dominant at home this year as a team. If they can take six or seven here, they're log for the playoffs above that play in spot, you know, you probably at the force be seat at that point and if you can finish strong after that needs to be in a pretty good spot in the playoffs, they're thirteen and seven home. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. I mean Domino's Utah Jazz like never lose a game. What's what's that is a life percentage. I bet that would be pretty high in the East like 60-something. Probably right? 75 64-66 sure. I mean, I'm not going to thirteen and seven months. Yeah. Yeah fifty-one percentage 6:50 exactly. So I would be that would be the three see to me. I got a math guy in the room if they had a 650 on the season, they'd be the 350Z Matt there. But anyway the look at Jim and jimmies like carry the two he's working on it by the yeah, how did they get a seven-game home? And that's in say no circus this year. Yeah, no ice. No lights kids know they might not ever have a circus again. The way you want to be in a far didn't I didn't I didn't connect that to actually being the circus at least do the the the Texas triangle. Right? No doubt. You actually means this Eric. Oh, yeah when they have the same. Yeah. I remember would always coincide like around I'd be down at spring training and the Celtics. Did you ever covered asparagus? And the trade deadline Justus is terrible. They also had on like Disney on ice ice capades Disney on ice all of that stuff. Yeah. That's that's depressing as hell to you go there and there's like twelve people in the sense of hard. Yeah. I haven't been oh, yeah. I got I got kids. I've been yeah just Frozen on Ice stuff like that so bad. I wish I was at the Celtics right now so bad wage. Yeah, I mean it must suck. Well that you know it is what it is you go. You gotta you gotta do it. You gotta do it by the cotton candy off anyways, keep moving. So so as far as this game goes the Coronet thing great for tonight obviously like is that do you think that's going to matter? Yeah. No, it doesn't that's why I want to settle down like, you know, if we thought we thought Mo Wagner matter for an it got 10,000 views on his pressure and he came on too terrible today. He tried to take one of his patented charges and got knocked into the third time again missed a bunch of shots. That was like right. We'll give we gotta give cornetta's flowers though, cuz we might not get the you know might not get a ton of our friends. Michelle looks pretty flat though. I know he drilled a couple but it's very Line Drive E. I would say Flats probably a good a good description for cornet. Just probably overall. Yeah. I don't know him. Well, I don't know him at all. Can we I mean, first of all this guy don't know what he makes but I imagine he makes enough where he can pay for a haircut. Is he cut his own hair? I mean that is a tough hairdo. It's all over the place. But you know, he was he just like he was wearing dress socks under those sneakers. We're in like the only one who thought that he like. He had ankle so often, you know, what else they said he had to drive from Chicago and like his own car like meet us up there like a Camry. No effect. Like you just doesn't seem I go to Milwaukee. You don't over he took fairs all the way up. He drove maneuver. He actually made a couple of bucks away off a little bit longer to get here yet a couple of Brad was like yeah cornets driving up and we'll see when he gets here. Yep. The car sonority drove up from like wherever he came from two to play in that Washington games. We could fight Tom Wilson. He like, you know, he drove like twelve hours to get home just to kick his do that believable. Unlike I can't imagine that's a cornet would be his cornet plan Sundays. He looks like one of those like good Christian guys. You know what? I mean? I don't know if you take off Sundays. I don't know. So like I don't know we going to get any more out of life or Wagner to eject. We got a cornet. Whatever about them. He said I mean it's probably more likely to stay just cuz he makes more that was assumed. He was going to get dumped off. Yeah, but they they're hanging on now cuz they're going to see where they are with the buyout. So I guess we can talk about a little bit here coming off this game. The Drummond situation report was that is close to getting so now it looks like the Knicks apparently are out. It's really Boston in the Lakers but Lakers going well Metro Robinson broke his foot today, so I could change. Yeah saw that stuff. I saw that. Yep. So but they're putting on that full court, press here. And again, I think what's coming down to it is you know, what one you got the thing in the LeBron thong and obviously a clearer path to a title than anybody else is going to give you but to they're going to use them and you know legitimate minutes I would think over there. So as you said the Gasol things not working out here'll hasn't been dead. So I think he's got a path to play. But again, the the only way he comes to Boston is if they tell him you're going to get a lot of minutes here. And so then it's you know, and I'm Kathy the commenters here and we've all been talking about it all day. How do we feel about drumming again? We talked about this in a last Show drum and coming in and taking Tristan Thompson's minutes. I don't think anybody's going to worry about their drug money coming in and being part of a three-man big rotation. That's also going to feature some Grant Williams in there and is going to knock Rob back into the bench unit and into 16 18 minutes a game. I don't think that everybody loves so it all comes down to how Brad would use him. But if you're going to tell him to come here you're going to tell him to come here because he's going to play starter minutes you guys agree. Yeah, I agree. I mean that's how you get them. You're right. I mean that's the edge over the Lakers because if you're him, you know you go with the Lakers. I think that's the edge you get more playing time more exposure in the Eastern Conference and let's face it off easily be the sellers as best rebounder. What do we talk about? Whatever we mentioned drum in and his past especially cuz the Celtics he always comes up big and boards and pulling down rebounds. And this is one of the better years for something's off the rebounding and I just think he can be a guy to create second chance opportunities. Like I know when they were crazy about themselves going on trading for him because I mean, I just don't know if that that necessarily that knee is necessarily Topsail. It's just for the Celtics team, but I just think we're talking about Second Chance opportunities can run the floor bit. You know, I mean, that's about that's about it. Right really strong mean. That's what he'll he'll give you give the Celtics in a nutshell. Yeah, and it's it's the reality isn't you know, the Laker seems like it's a done deal with drumming, but you know, I don't know if it's dead. Official the is it the latest is words the strong FrontRunner, right? That's what we have the latest. Yeah, there's a lot of people saying it's already done in the chats. It's not it's but it looks like it's a close but the thing is it was really close four or five six hours ago and it felt like it was going to happen any minute and it hasn't yet. So it's still out there robbing said I think is what might have changed things because what the Knicks can do is offer him a long-term deal with a real salary which might be encouraging to him. I don't know if the next want to do that, but they have a bunch of cap space they didn't use going into this year. So they were they were actually a team that could absorb right to in a trade. So people thought they might think about that. I wonder if that's going to be it. I just when I heard he was interested in the Celtics I got interested because he's a pretty good centre-back and they need a guy right now. We saw Luke Cornett and mo Wagner over the past few years and by the way, but that's twenty-eight million at twenty-eight million. I couldn't you were going to trade for him. It was all we had dead. Well people have been talking about him for years. And I know people in the comment there's a saying he's not that great overrated. But if you bring him in a million bucks on that minimum, that's a guy you want in here, but we had the whole conversation yesterday, but would you start off you make all these concessions for him? It's probably not worth it at that point. So as of last night, I was thinking if he comes I'll be happy. If not, I won't be too bummed and it looks like he's going to go and the Celtics are just gonna have to figure this out with the guy. I think gorgui Chang's out. There is a popular name. That's probably a guy who would fit in the loop Cornett roll better than Cornett would be able to ignite a night out. So this other options out there if drawn doesn't come here and I don't think he would swing the season by any means he just be a good player to have in here. So if he was willing to come I'd be more than willing to take him. Yeah. I kind of agree with Bobby hate to say it I have to takes basically it's off one. One of them is this if he goes in the Celtics great, he makes them better. He's an unreal rebounder, you know, he's got obviously a presence down low. How old is he Bobby? 2727 we talked about this guy like he's thirty-six and like honestly, I feel like that that's how people think of Andre Drummond. He's twenty-seven and he's one of the best rebounds in the game every time he plays the Celtics. He grabs like twenty plus boards. I swear he's got like not exaggerating. It was like seven games of 2020 or more rebounding at the Celtics in his career. It's just unbelievable. So I don't know. I mean people are anti-german the way they are understand that he's Limited in on offense and he can't use some ridiculous things sometimes and sure there were two plays this year one where he took the ball in isolation from the top of the 3-point line and did like a spinning fadeaway shot at the rim and then on the other hand there was a play where he got switched onto her guy and just stood there like his controller died while the guy turned right around him and he took like stopped moving. So he does these things sometimes and make your head spin. He takes a lot of shots and it feels like you want he's kind of like Dwight Howard in a way. It's like Dwight Howard leight. He thinks he's like a more Out song. Aspire offensively then he is even though they both have outstanding Talent right enjoyed Howard back in his prime. I know that he drives a lot of people crazy but he was he was a beast to anyways my first home if you go to some extent I think that's great for them. I don't want Rob minutes to go down to 10 again. But I think that that Brad can work it out where if if Drummond has to start so be it. I think Rob should still be able to get home 20 to 25 minutes and Thompson's hopefully the odd man out. I don't know if it's going to happen that way and if I'm if I'm drumming I probably don't put all that trust in Brad to make it out. That way. I I just go to LA because I see a bigger role or go down because I see a bigger role in both those teams are just as capable. If not more than capable of winning a title than the Celtics are right now. Anyways, Me Maybe about the next Tuesday's it's two-fold. It's all a matter of what his motivation is his motivation. Is it his motivation to win a title or his motivation to get another contract, you know, and so path 2 minutes and path too useful minutes where you're going to prove your worth and get some birth. Austin throw twenty million dollars at you might be what he wants more and so he's got to determine where that is and that comes down to kind of what he's being sold. Can you go to LA because LeBron makes everybody better LeBron makes everybody. Let me ask you this. I wish I know I'm saying look what you're interested Thompson. Do you want to do even know why he took a Celtics meeting? Really? I mean he'll he'll start and they'll be in the phone knows if they're healthy like it's a no-brainer for him. It seems in but like let's say he did come here. Do you want to live in a world where you've got to feed him x amount of time to kind of keep him happy now that's kind of the problem is this is a guy that's going to need to be fed down low. He's going to need touches when he gets it. He's going to be a vacuum and that's going to be that when he does get his rebounds. He's going back up with them. Like he's just going to be Okay, I guess I mean I knew even have a great field goal percentage for you know, besides down there. He doesn't I still I still think that he is he is better for the team Than Jake Thompson are cornet or or Wagner. So you're improving if your goal is to be better this season and make a real run at the championship. Then you can't tell me that adding Drummond takes away away from that. So that's that's one thing the other take is it goes to the Lakers. He is a bum so I didn't write American definitely. Yeah. I saw your Tweet earlier becomes hear what a steal title contenders. If you go somewhere else you need that overrated Palm got robbed. I mean Lakers beat up his actions from LeBron and take them go ahead Lakers fans. Lakers fans. Don't seem thrilled about getting a me there and there are definitely some red flags with him they do cuz he sucks. I don't think I'm going to feel anything either way. Like that's how I feel like he he's perfectly between the people who hate him and the people who love him like some people think he's like the massage. Antidote against Joell embiid and some people think he should like me out of the league. No one is okay. Nobody's the end. It doesn't suck. It's so funny that the the criteria for being a successful big in this league is whether or not Joell embiid would Eat You Alive like it's like, oh every time you mentioned a big fight each that guy alive. He eats everybody alive. He's the friggin. He's the before the injury. He was one or two in the MVP race like his Ramen embiid supper. Nobody's an MP in stock. We found that out yesterday. Yes. He is a little nice situation. Yeah, he's a little scared of Rob to I think yeah went off tonight, though. Did it did he his brother was all pumped up last night down 20 if everybody the correct pronunciation on it. Nasi. Okay. Only brother be honest, I didn't know that Gianna said he gets his girlfriend. Help Yiannis. Who's better? I actually don't know. My name is almost cost up. Oh, yeah. Oh is it cost if I butchered I mean if if it's Constantine, its course that didn't Acosta. However you want to say it but that was almost my name. I was almost a month and that would have been so much more than John dude. I was so different. My birth certificate is jannis. Yeah. Why are you John like everybody else? That's my birth. My birth certificate. I'm Yani. Yani zinis start calling John. It's it's actually and it's pronounced in Greek. It's pronounced as a nice instead of birth. But it is what it is. Is that nice the nice? Yeah, I think that actually someone saying here that matches better than Costco. But anyway, he was out. But yeah, Rob's Rob's the chef Rob's Rob was definitely the the the Jana stopper. He looked frustrated last night absolutely. Look timid. He wanted he did want to dance down low do anything to do with Rob Joseline and Bobby don't believe me, but I think that's true. If they meet in the playoffs be honest is not happy campers. There's something about the Box sale and it last night. This is this is the third year in a row that they have a great team nice Supporting Cast coach who's got a lot of hype, but when when the Celtics run into them, they just always seemed to be in every game the paint gets so clogged for Giannis and the other players. They're like I said this yesterday that's probably the team you want out of all the top four in the East and if you throw the heat in there, you don't want the nets for sure. The Sixers are looking like a really tough team to get past the heat wiener dog. They did to the Celtics. So it's probably the Bucks like they just match up well with that team. I agree. I already I already took a seven-game winning streak, but we'll get up to the sixth seed Bobby lock lock lock lock in their take on the Bucks. How's that sound? Seven games went through twice. May make it fourteen could be could be 9:00 right got to go into the I think there's going to be a real Run for the same in Northgate Lookout Tatum and brown or playing that too for a couple of games in a row. They starting to get a feed-in them as a team one by one grants coming along a little bit. Rob has been outstanding in his first few starts. So it's all starting to piece together just one is 48 going to survive. I'm a little I don't want to say anything cuz we just don't know but it doesn't several days. Let's talk about this. I feel like they both what doesn't sound great. What are you in the ground? Well, I feel like I feel like Tatum was like, okay Jaylon you got you're doing that thing when you got blinders on and you don't see anyone else. I would like to do your thing and it worked out and then the fourth quarter went back to team basketball, but I don't hate that though. I really don't I don't hate it because he's the he's going to be your logged on the fender on the on the opposite end. So if he's got blinders on four five six minutes, he took Attack Mode. I don't hate it. I don't want to make this all Arab Centric thing. Cuz but this is the second time in a row. We've seen it again part of it might be just they don't fully the starters haven't had enough time. It's with him, but part of the reason you have him out there is not just to draw attention. So you're Freer but also every once awhile to you know, pass to him and they don't Jalen has missed in the last two games if we go back and look at the film at least six five or six like lob opportunities or or hitting Rob on the role where he just won't look he does not look when he goes off. Basket that's part of the reason to go. It's the drive and kick drive-and-dish and he doesn't do it. So blinders is one thing when you're like, it's okay to say I'm going to take the ball and I'm going to create but creating not just a shot for yourself. It's just a good shot. There has to be more in your mind than I'm shooting this ball. No matter what and that's for when you go to school is on your trying to look for second shock like oh where somebody yeah, it's like no apps and then you'll get them to look around and pass but he doesn't he was tonight was one of the worst I've ever seen with him never ever ever looking back. I'm getting mines. And that's a I want to count total passes. I forget assists. I mean, I swear the ball only left his hand. Like I had literally there's one play or a couple of codes were as soon as he touches the ball it just head down boom. He's not even thinking about anybody else. So this again, I don't know that it's people will say at home. It's like stat hunting. I don't think so. I think it's I think it's just trying really hard to suck. Fact the game the way he thinks he can he's just not that's just not a thing that he does and Bobby. I don't know. I mean you tell me he I don't think he's got that in him. I don't think he can do them both at the same time for a while. He couldn't dribble well enough to even figure out where he was going to go. He just started going and he get stuck but now that he's got the dribble down. I still don't think he's looking up, you know and looking around for things off at all when he's and it's too bad because there are opportunities there if if you just kind of opened his eyes to him. Yeah, he'll you'd be hit it once or maybe twice a game but the team as a whole ideologically just not seem to love that play. I don't know if they emphasize spotting up around those screens and rolls more than dumping it off, but we had that stat earlier in the year that the Celtics on the whole only past the the Roman 5% of the time in which probably has to be among the fewest in the league and you see it like I should get his usual like balance passes in the lane into baskets a few times a game from Kemba Walker. Is not a live guy. He's usually throwing those low passes and then she gave me and him and looking for this shot around those screams. But you know, what what they're missing with Rob is Rob's hands are so good. You actually can bounce pass him in the lane as well. You don't just have to log you can catch it tonight. Yeah, right but like Tristan, for example, you're one he's they just can't get up enough for a role to to throw it up to them. That's pointless, but also almost every single pass download at him. He doesn't have the hands to collect it and traffic and then go off strong or go up without getting challenged or blocked whereas Rob absolutely can so he is dead can get it to them. So many different ways. I don't think they fully realized that I think one they're not looking for it into they think it's only a la but I think I think you can he needs to touch the ball a little bit more down there for that threat to be real because look you had last game where it was. All the defense was sucking in and it created space for people. But if everyone realizes these guys are never going to pass to him. Anyway, you're going to stop paying attention down off. Just start you got to find a way to get the ball in their heads here on that first half against Milwaukee Denny. Yeah, so it's it's true points. I think he had zero points in that first half off a couple free throws, I forget but yeah, I mean, yeah, you know weird stat line where you had everything else. Yeah. So the tricky thing is this team wants to shoot more threes and they should be we've talked about this. They got a generation one, too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so it's understandable that they're going to be shooting a ton out of those screen-and-roll opportunities from 3 on pull-ups. That's what got them in these finals last year. Just those basic plays with it. So deadly on the tricky thing is is fueling into those you're not have half's like the first half tonight where they just couldn't land absolutely anything. I think they were 18% deep into the second quarter on three. So that's what you want to diversify things a little bit if something's not working and Rob is allowed guy even as a catch and possess guy if he can start to form that a little more just gives you an outlet. I just don't think the South Like those plays all that much. I mean it didn't Brad say like the kind of big we want to play with at the style and I'm like that he was talking about a skill. So this is a yeah, I was going away this comment, but we can just paraphrase paraphrase, you know, the couple of comments the last few days about Rob it's again, if it's I don't know why he's saying it but you know, the becoming a reference in Brad said, he's not the type of big we're used to whose a little bit more skilled and can shoot you know. So again, it's he's focusing on what Rob can't do instead of what he can do. And again, it's that way like I know what a big is or I know what I needed to be in Rob's not that and it's never been that you know, and and you wouldn't commit to him as being the best song on the team is like the best one we have right now obviously cuz you can't ice guy obviously your network and then pregame again today. He says well, I don't expect him to scorch. On that first unit and it's like he would if you worked him into the offense, but like but even if it doesn't who cares, yeah, but he's basically saying like Jalen & Jack's just going to shoot because I have no control over this guy's cuz they do what they do. So Rob's not going to get a lot of touches like I mean you absolutely can do it. But again, I don't know if part of it is I don't want to be told what I didn't do wrong with Rob during the season. So stop talking about him. I'm not given full credit cuz that's going to be an admission of me not having seen it. You know, that that there were Solutions right before my eyes and I refuse to acknowledge. I don't know if part of its downplaying it cuz they wanted to just shut up about it cuz Drummond is coming. I don't know if he's doing the Belichick thing where he doesn't want to give him a big head. That's funny. Yeah, you know, so I don't know what the impetus off but he's so slow to praise Rob and it's just you just wonder like why can't you just say like yeah, he's friggin been amazing for us. You know, like yeah, he does so many things. He stays evolving he's going crazy. Star like you just won't do it. I don't get it either. I feel like we have this we have we've asked this question. So we need to reach out to them after games and like after weird quotes that have to do with Rob and like like you so quick to point out like what why Rob might not start or why he might not play as many minutes or why he's not, you know, getting the consistent, you know time that other players might but yeah, it's I guess it's just something that we need to accept at least for this season because you're right. He's like refuses to acknowledge that you know, Rob can change the game and here's the experts like we're not saying play Rob's that he can score but points we're saying play Rob because he makes the players around better better. He doesn't need to do that by scoring. He just needs to do it by being himself. Kemba Walker needs to do it by scoring not Rob Rob to go in there and be exactly who he's been all season Off the Bench which isn't this like scoring machine Off the Bench either. I mean, why would his role all of a sudden change? Because of the players that are it's all about that. It's about the space. It's about you know, just having your stars give a little bit more freedom to operate and they clearly have when he's on the court. It's the defense presents. What's so interesting with me. I don't know what we can't fully understand here this notion of bringing in a drum and type figure because he can rebound what are people getting robbed is a phenomenal rebound rebounder. Yeah, that's up quick and he's got sticky hands. So he just friggin Halls down rebounds everywhere and he can jump like he's multi-directional leaper. He's not just a guy who gets up in front of his standing here and he can grab boards over here and over here. He's he can do a lot. So he's I mean his per-36 rebounding average is like 18 or nights ridiculous. So that's not but I'm just concerned at all right A lot of people who are okay without without the Celtics getting drum and I think because of Rob it's not because of anybody else. I mean if you didn't have Rob people would be dead. For drumming to come here and drama would probably have the promise of 35 minutes a game. If you didn't have Rob and his team that being said, you know, he played 26 minutes tonight. Honestly, that's the most. I think you'll you'll see him play like roughly like every game he's not going to just pick up to 30 35 minutes a game. So we're still a lot of minutes to be out there by another by another Center another player. So I mean not to get back into the drum and I have been trying to get in there. No, no, I was going to say yeah, I think a lot of the time also that the same people who aren't crazy about drumming. I mean the people who aren't crazy about Tristan Thompson on the same one thousand bring in Drummond upgrade that position with Drummond. If you have the bench Thompson then so be it he'll be here, you know a verdict in case of an emergency, you know, someone gets hurt you plug them in and I'm not necessarily against like I think when you think about drumming it's rebounding because we've seen it happen to the Celtics so many times if you can grab someone through the buyout Market who's going to give you that edge and rebounding and give you more opportunities wage. Yeah. It may take a little minute, you know a chunk of minutes away from Robert Williams what he's doing right now, but in the overall big picture, it could be a big difference down the stretch. Look this other Visa start. They're already doing it right there take off or threes that pushing the ball more, you know, everyone sort of got the green light as long as you get back on defense and I think that's the only job you can create, you know more opportunities for the offense Second Chance opportunities birth. Jumpstart the the fast break if he's if he's able to clean the glass the same way he's able to do at TD Garden as a visitor, you know, so I think all that others are taking all that into consideration and they're just trying to show me to pull this off as as best. They can because let's face it. I mean the the effort that we've seen the last two nights have been great. But is this the defense we're going to see every single night. I mean, we're not a hundred percent sure. So I think offensively with his dog bounding they could really help us out things overall. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Thompson, that's the way I look at it. You can upgrade Thompson. We just do a quick quick moment of silence for Bobby Syracuse Orangemen who just took an L. Yeah. They just about anything about anything you want to say quickly will give you will give you 5 Seconds to talk about Syracuse Joshua the voice to men who are hard to say. Goodbye. You scam five. It was a good run me there was a path to the final four, which is tough very well said well, okay wage. Dad, he looks like I said, he looks full frame. Well, it's it's just I know I'm sad. I was watching it while we were on the full screen and they were they were within eight or nine for Life eleven straight minutes and then Houston just blew the doors off in the final nine. So it was sad to watch but anyway it Rob wanted to likable guy like Bay Haim takes a loss loss that really likeable guy that everyone can sort of rally around but anyway buddy is is true on that sense buddy. You want buddy on the Celtics know does that mean Jim Boeheim? All right. So Rob, I see everyone going crazy in the comments and you guys are talking about minutes and stuff like that. I I just don't know what people want. He's starting. He's playing 30 minutes. Now, it's going to be what forty Forty-Eight. I just want to say I want everyone to say they were wrong for thinking he for thinking he would melt playing with the starters and they couldn't handle twenty-five to thirty minutes a game and that they aren't better on the floor that of the three bigs that they had. I mean was that he he was he was one of the guys who got benched open this game of the three bigs that they had. He's he was clearly the most impactful and should have been leading the charge. That's all I want. We're not trying to make him into anything. He wasn't they have they had a they had two other mediocre bigs on the team that we we tried to hard to explain my truck Thompson deserved minutes. But this is this notion that no one else should be entices. Okay, and and for some reason the guy who obviously was the most talented player of the birth. Hey, we were trying to explain why he should be playing more for 4:40 games. That's all we're trying to do is crazy. But this is where was he was so easy to explain. It's like it's like it's like us arguing for them games and Jayson Tatum is good like with the argument should've been put to bed so early yet. We just kept having it. Yeah his his affected on the floor is real but I don't think him as an individual player swinging games on wage own production. I he's making easier for other guys as you've said, he's a really good fit for some of the talents that on the floor and he's protecting the rim which was a ginormous need on the team, but it just gets taken so far and I think this is why Brad pushes back on it to where like no one else can play no one else can close games. I mean little Coronet close the game. Well at the for them at center tonight and everyone's freaking out because I'm in a way to get away from minutes to every once awhile two different things are going to happen. That's that's the unit that got hot so he stuck with them. Absolutely. Yep. For ever going to happen again. It's it's not just start preparing you guys for this to they're probably not going to extend them this offseason. They'll have the chance to and they probably won't they'll probably take this right of free agency in two years, see how we develop see how consistent he can become and if he is a starting center for this team just because I like they stink as I said organization. I think this is where Danny and practically do come in the line here. They have four centers. Any one of them could close the game On Any Given night who's hot who's the best matchup? Who do they feel best about who any of them the Celtics have four centers and name them right now, they have four bodies are in contention to close the game. Yeah, who who Cornett just close the game over Rob. I don't know. How long are y'all it's just happened a couple of days. I'll see you here, and I'm broke. All right, you guys it just happened dead? I'm just saying exactly what happened. You know, Bobby, come on know I mean Tyson's close games that against the Bucks played the late minute Bogner wage. All right measures are about to go ahead I think Brad is controlling Bobby somehow he snapped in know I'm just I'm just explaining how they look at it. I'm not saying corn dog with I'm not hi. I'm going to invite him. I'm not saying that they're going to be closing games, but you don't think there's going to be some games for Thompson's going to be closed them down for 4. I think very unlikely. I think you will have a zero big line up occasionally when 48 plays to close games where you could potentially like I said men should have someone like Grant out there for shooting. I think it's very unlike my brown Tatum. I think it's like very unlikely to Tristan would ever Club. Game over Rob under any circumstances cuz he's never going to bring you anything. You need late in a late-game situation. Even when you had the three big rotation. Rob was closing lots of them. So Rob is going to close almost every thought you might play a little offense defense switch-a-roo, but if there's free throws or something and swap out but no way is Cornett or I'm not saying that going to just like game rotations. I'm just saying that's what happened tonight. And if Drummond came in here, I was saying you'd be send this three ways and that's something we agreed with coming into tonight. It was a contentious point on Drummond if they play Philly round one, who do you think's going to get more minutes between Thompson and Rob what if they only Philly if they play Philly round one who's got all right, who's going to get more minutes and all of these games? I don't know. I don't know. I am honestly trying to figure out how Brad is going to play the center is is an impossible task. That's what I'm trying to explain. I'm not saying this is right or wrong. I'm just yeah who is and who should maybe two completely different answers suck. Guarantee that it won't be cornet and it won't be Bond web not saying it's going to be I'm saying they did it the last two nights you do that on purpose won't be van Wagner. I mean, I mean, I don't know. I don't know how I don't know how I mean it's just became a tornado saying like I said, I think Cornett should close games. I'm saying that the original Tech's look at the center position and say if we have three guys who bring different skills sets here depending on how the games going. We're going to use one of those and they do if you rub, I don't think they've you rub changed my life because of the deadline that would pick 3 Guys on the floor tonight. It just so happened Cornett came in to spell Rob in the fourth the entire unit. Got hot Brad Road them all that happened tonight because the reason to switch it at that point. It was just going well. That's one of the situations you run into that never going to happen again because once Tristan is activated wage. Just not he's not going to rotate in in that situation. You just never going to happen. Hello cornet can stretch it. Obviously Tristan. Can't that in that way, but your to your point John? Yeah. I mean you're going to get you're going to get to them back in Thompson. You're going to get three guys Kemba Walker Thompson Fournier. I mean, it's a numbers game at some point. You're not going to get minutes for for these guys that are coming in on the top again. Yeah, you can I mean what if what if they get them by like thirteen and a playoff game and they're going to put coins in a partner? Probably going to lose that series now, but I don't think it plays it to them like whether or not they're going to put small bowl lineups with their multiple. You're going to see a lot more. Yeah, you might see Grant. Like I said, you're gonna see Grant in there with three wings and to to create spacing and shooting and explain. He didn't post to you all do with Marcus Smart play in the four, you know in some of these this is I mean, we're pretty much saying the same thing they have different skill sets and they're going to use different guys and they're depending on what's going on they do You robbed as like Joell embiid compared to Dwight and Tony Bradley on the Sixers. It's three equal guys. Rob probably has more leeway than the other two that are here, but it's it's not as big of a gap as you're well involved way. For example, I don't value question. Go ahead Jimmy. I just don't think they value the center position as much as I want to say. Yeah, that's all all all all season long. You were calling us a bunch of Boomers and wanting 1980s era centers and you're sitting here lobbying for Tristan Thompson and Andre Drummond to get minutes. It's gone. It's funny. I just want as many guys as long as you can get in here. These are the guys you want to be on on the floor really ever, you know, especially if you have guys, you know, you just don't it just you just don't need it on this team. You don't want it on this team. Yeah. You don't want Rob to be struggling in a first half and have to go in a different direction, but it might and I told you guys this this Rob starting experience is going to kind of go up and down. It was Fantastic Four. Opening minutes in Milwaukee, you know something you do realize with not Rob starting at Center. The team was 21 and 23. Could you possibly be more up and down than that? Like why is Rob Rob was not the reason they won the night. They have what I'm saying? They have to go undefeated with Robert Center in order for him to maintain. I'm not I'm not going off record or anything like that. I even if they loss the box yesterday I would have looked at that game and said Rob was fantastic win or lose tonight. I didn't think he was as good what I'm saying. He was he was what I'm saying is it's all the players the other team every player on the team has had a hand in a sub five hundred record up to this point and were not talking about their inconsistencies and their struggles and that includes Jalen and Jason and and stars on this team and nobody sitting here having a conversation about I don't know if it's sustainable to keep Jaylen Brown in the starting rotation because their birth Under 500 right now. So something it's ridiculous. Like what is it? The what is the standard of Rob Williams that he has to play to near Perfection to justify his minutes. It's insane. It's a different situation at the center position. I guess more interchangeable. They don't ask those guys to do as much so if one guy struggle and they can just call in another guy and if if it's similar production or a little bit better On Any Given night in a way they play that's just how it goes here. And if you want that to change if you want the standard to become a more like consequential part of how how the Celtics do things you're going to have to fire cuz you just never going to change on that front. Oh, what you do is you let the guy who impacts the game in every way you need it to be impacted do that and then let him going to you're going to enforce shots to rub you're going to see if you don't want to be let's let's all say it together off. I think Brad Cole right there. It's the best version of themselves. That's what Rob does he makes them better because they can be more free and they can be themselves. They'll only be better when they start to feel like acknowledge his presence on the court and get him. I'm not saying force-feed rob. I'm saying the type of style you want to play with these players. You want some big clunky Center in there You Gotta Throw it to in the post. I don't want that all you know, I just want I'd rather have Drummond on the rush than cornet. That's that's all I feel I think Drummonds better than cornet. That's about it that it's if Drummond turns into a dog, he came or another big and your and now you've got this minute suck because Brad wants to do the thing that you say play the situation play the guy play this play that rather than just like just enjoy life experience and just live with it and let him play his twenty-five thirty minutes each game because ultimately you are better. I just don't know that bread sees it and I think he's like, oh this calls for cornet or this calls for a no living wage. This calls for Grant minutes and it's just it I think he's wrong. I just think it's for whatever reason he thinks it's what they need to do. And I don't I don't think it's right. I don't think it's the right cause I mean I hate lineups Bobby. I'm going to lose my mind man. You know, they can't do that always knowing about that too. I I hate that I get seen as an anti rock guy Thor weeds get thrown at me and all that stuff whenever he does, right cuz I do love them. I think he's an awesome Prospect. You've made your bed Bobby your Dino. I have I just hate I just feel like I need I just feel like I need to do it off to a guy's my friend. You are a blood-soaked guy sadly. So am I I can see that no, I in 2,001. I was at 1. Yes, ma'am that if it was if if Bledsoe was healthy, he should get his job back in when Brady got knocked out of that game and blood and they won the playoff game against Pittsburgh. Absolutely wanted blood. So to start in the Superbowl and I was certain they won they started back up because of that. Yes, and I was searching it went in spite of Brady not because of him off. That is a crazy one. So there were a lot of people that camp a lot of no. No, but those are the blood so because that as a tough quarterback man took that one, I love Drew he's he got hurt the way he got hurt. He nearly rear-ended right there. Like that was if you lived it the way like my age they're too is you know, you had that one Spike where they went to the Superbowl and then you release in the evenings, but then that drought you talk about suffering a couple of one wins Seasons that was dark. So Drew Bledsoe was a freaking angel sent from up above to save us even then. He was the man that brought the franchise bath. Like the to respectability so it was hard to not love Drew and he was a good soldier about it. So yeah, you'll never be remembered for what he truly was to the franchise which was super important. But at the time I thought Brady was at Jackie's a little Dink and dunk guy. He wasn't a super impressive, right? You know, he was what they could take that year. I mean that year he wasn't even a great. Yeah average Quarterback, but they walk around, you know, if you if you're you're the anti Rob guy for the rest of your head. How does the anti Tom Brady guy? That's worse. Yeah. And yeah, hopefully Rob's Rob's career path doesn't take the same trajectory is Brady so you can live your life unlike like you don't have to be like Steve Bartman or something like that to keep my keep my Cam Newton thought to myself to save my soul even more in the chat. Yeah. That's that's what people are throwing it out there. What do you guys think? Let's say, okay, let's let's be real drum and probably goes to the Lakers, but I think I think of birth. I'm hearing I checked in with bought out cuz it's not right now. Yeah, so I checked in with rocket circles and fruit for cheetahs doesn't buy guys out I guess so it's just going to happen like and barring a surprise. He's just not going to pay a guy to leave the team interesting. What do I think of Kelly Olynyk? I think he did not enough to get Durant here to Boston. That's what I think failure. You will let him live that down. Was it the tie dye t-shirt? Where do you think it was with that? I swear. I swear. I had a more negative impact than Brady had positive. Did you not show up with that a homely looking dude there and be like, hang out with them is absolutely said no to allowing him into that negotiation. That's that's a hot take embarrassing it. Is that reduced their chances by at least 10 per month? Guaranteed. Yeah, exactly. Well what was going to be the starting line? It's like taking them to D'Angelo's, you know, like like a clam chowder and you know, it will say forget the name that plays like right off the garage and it's awesome. Now, there are people that said why the bite the Celtics bring Tom Brady for a Celtics patch like it just it felt kind of weird that you cuz he's a huge Brady guy. I know but it had nothing to do with the Celtics in New England legend in the in the city would go through the other guys Demarcus gorgui or clinic. Does he know it at the Marcus Demarcus has just been sitting around with no interest for a reason Jiang wage. I Gori he was good-looking him. He was good for him. He lets go with him. Yeah, but he's been awful for two years. I don't know if he's just off a cliff at this point. Nobody mean. Yes, this is the Bayou Market. Yeah, I guess you can also do you know a great mom? No shot whatsoever. They're not quick with on their feet lateral movement. That's it. You know, you you end up team lists at the end of the day, you know, a lot of these bigs their their careers are cut short because of this page give Jane a fire cuz he's probably better than Cornett the same Gardner Cornett probably and you keep Wagner. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with that gardeners like the hustle guy. You just need some you need some energy or whatever. You do by the time you can shoot the most people I know don't even two games but the wages running into to create screens. I'm like, that's the kind of energy. We haven't seen all year. Well, sometimes a little bit shout out to your boy Bobby. I gave them I could tell some that but you don't see a lot of guys that often emphasis on on creating hard screens and running into them and write, you know with this roster spot. You want a guy who's actually going to play if he can find it and when it would probably play a little bit Jiang would probably play in certain situations sex pants would not cousins would not and off somebody brought up as I did. Yeah. Oh my God, there is government name is Jerry six pounds off. Yeah, it's great. Nickname too bad. They're not allowed to bring back Jeff Teague. That's a tricky Will Roll. Yeah. Yeah, it's too bad. So what happened there. Give it to the Gary payroll. Is that what it was? Remember Gary? You can't you can't take the guy back after that starting to Porter Otto Porter's one who got me intrigued but the magic of keeping him. It sounds like home. Yeah. I thought that would have been an interesting one. Yeah, he fit a need pretty badly again. They probably that was up for discussion on like Orlando. You don't you guys need body's right now like no surprise. I know I know he loves older but you know definitely rotation player for those guys. The reason I love Drummond is because he wasn't going to be the last guy on the roster. He was actually going to join the middle on the roster from the last spot, which I think would be creative way to improve the team. But yeah, you're not if it's if it's really the 15th man, it's not going to matter. Whoever you get is going into locker room, too. That's a that's noticed the media phone number. It's important. You probably just keep cornet. And your name if you're sitting here debating whether or not you know, he is a plan Cornett guy. Like it's probably not worth doing it, you know and white cord for a free agent. I don't know probably for those for all of you guys watching think so locker room to in the in the TD Garden is like a closet is tough 52 Garden has the worst locker room credible because the Bruins cuz it's the the Bruins run the show there. So the Celtics get second fiddle the first of all the visiting locker room is worse than a high school. So it's so bad for it is I kind of like that is you know, what you don't mind me about high school locker room does I'm actually glad that it is because that's how it should be. You should be fine dining the opposition. They should have to suffer in that room something to box like that locker rooms should be massive, you know, your team's right because the Bruins have a really nice nice big block room hockey locker rooms generally speaking are but the thing about The Brick House visiting hockey team has a city locker room. I guess they don't call it a locker room. They call it a Dressing room dressing room and you can't walk on the bi it's not it's not there anymore the new places they'll oh really? Yeah. It's on the ceiling. Oh thank God. I almost got into so many fights about that. I've gotten yelled. I got you out that like crazy that was first couple of years covered the team. Anyway, there's a huge be in the center of a not that big a locker room and during the playoffs in the visitors. You literally couldn't get rid of one place to another and there was four guys who's job it was just to tell you not to step on the Beats. Literally. The only reason we were employed like they're just guys from like Saudi and Charlestown to say what you guys took a step on the beat kid the fuk off like what writers and actually strong arm them off the be like, you know, how long that would be 10 * 20 is no visitors locker room. It's crazy. But going back to our saying I can only imagine how awful locker room to is the Celtics players. I mean, like you said John mean they're they're like worst song. High school locker room. So yeah, it is bad. But yeah locker room too. That's you know, anybody can login to guide The Divide on the teams and how there's The A Team in the B team and that was funny. Yeah, I you know who's on the B team so nobody really didn't think that they can get assuming they're not going to get Drummond. No, that's I mean, this is how bios go we always predict it's going to be somewhat amazing. And then it's Jonathan Gibson. Remember him we've had some awful awful bio guys. I mean by old and awful are synonymous. There's a reason guys are bought know they traded from Detroit Murphy. Remember that one that worked though. I mean just think about what do you know the other team hates the guy so much they're giving them money to leave like obviously they're not huge high-impact, and that's why when I heard drum and I got really excited awesome team to get a good. Bye oke I like the Celtics in 2008 when they got Cassell and PJ Braun. I mean those guys weren't Superstars, but they they did a good job. What you wanted them to do when they came in and you know, the Celtics aren't in that position this year. They're not going to get the most coveted bio guys or guys. They're going to fit the role perfectly. They're just awful but the Lakers are and they're not the Lakers not the lake. I think that they go to the Lakers they go, you know, and those kids do Michael Finley Detroit Murphy's they just clung on to try to win a title and they're going to talk to yeah that that's why I got so excited about drumming because you usually don't get their guy that good in the Bayou Market Marcus. I'll be said though. What about Kyle Korver what they drive pull up to his to his place to pull pull up with the defeat a Brand New Orleans and trying to convince him to come along. You know, Jayla could call him Jayla could talk to him a little bit Yeah women's if he's fresh and in shape wage, that could be interesting. He's a guy that was always in shape. He would have unreal offseasons come in ready to go. I don't know what he's up to now, but surprised he's not a team. I think Bela can make that phone call Mickey Mouse. They work together, you know, they're a lot of stuff. They're going to be rather have another waiting then for Biggs, right? I would yeah for sure if what you're bringing in now is going to just be you know, like you said bench fodder back of the you know back of the bus sort of stuff competing with Wagner and cornet for a roster spot here. There's no point so you're right. I'd rather bring in another Wing or somebody else or just somebody who only so many to bury Nesmith and just shoots these little bit more probably I'm telling you whether it's like 45 or you know, 5342 full like that's can we order it up especially specialist and said that brings something you don't have absolutely or grants Dept at a place that you needed but you'll need an exact everybody needs but my Nesmith point I think it's again. I don't mean to keep want to I don't want to make it over and over and over again. I got you. We want to see him play to c e You can at this point. I don't think he can if you have if if it's him versus semi I'll just keep running Nesmith out there and see if he can give you anything if it's him versus somebody who's dead. You know, now that you have another wing and you have Fournier in there. And when Romeo comes back who again I think is going to be ahead of Nesmith because he has a year under his belt. I don't think there's a path 2 minutes for nice but there and perhaps fine. It was just if you're going to be playing Javonte and these stiffs develop this guy and see if you can catch lightning in a bottle and maybe you can help you down the stretch at this point. It's a Lost season for him. Well, here's your bio an auction Romeo Langford. He's essentially going to be that I think he's going to play on Monday. So let's see what he's got. He'll probably jump right into that rotation the way it's looking and probably a minute's semi ojeleye is going to miss some time here. Yeah, I think so too. So we're talking about guys missing time. Do we talk about 48 or no? No, we can talk about him a little bit. So he tweeted today. What did he say? I'm fine. It's so weird seeing off. In a different uniform, LOL. That was three hours a big tweeter. Hey, well, like maybe like tweet more and stop getting. No idea. Yeah, I think usually there'll be a sense from the team that they were to share things if it was more contact related and that's more of like a couple of days a couple of tests that you're out of it when it just pops up like this and they don't say anything about it. I get a little more concerned about the longer end of things again. I don't actually know anything on this. I don't know if it's just the positive or not, but it seems anything I haven't seen anything. Yeah, it seems like back when you had the contact guys that were Jalen semi those type of guys you sort of knew that they were in the contact program. Where is Tatum had tested positive. You heard that for the report. The only guy you didn't really know earlier in the season was Carson. It seemed like he was in that contact group, but then he went back cuz he actually tested positive. So I thought I'd be worried about 48 here missing longer a longer amount of time because there's no one that connected back to one Orlando. Obviously, he hasn't contacted any one of the Celtics yet. He shouldn't be contacting him. Outside world. So unless he was out like crazy in Florida, which was certainly a possibility like take a bad flight or something. Like no, I don't flies off should be flying private. You should be the only one in the in the damn plane. Let's let's be real Seafood a boss. Then he took the physical and then this happened it's it's kind of you can kind of read in sequence of events there right on Boston Boston. Once again, it's too bad see him might not see him for a while. This is a real bummer. I mean like John said you brought in the guy on the short-term play a couple of months. He's going to miss you know, he could miss I guess, you know two weeks. I mean the whole home the whole home stretch here that stuff cuz I'm coming and coming here. It's like right for this season. That's that's a lot a lot if you threw him into the lineup tonight and then add him for those seven games it. That's where I am. Thought they would have been cooking and now they're just going to kind of be in the same situation if they played like they did tonight against any team that had real talent. They they probably going to lose terrible. They just gotta they just got a good wage and Horford going out tonight. Just added to the brake. They got here no Shana Horford. I mean they were missing. I mean and then freaking dork goes out with a great me my guide or it yeah new doors Focus off polka schefsky went down with a knee pain. Yeah, they caught a million breaks. He was for a little while exactly. So we'll see their back Monday 7 game seven-game homestand. So there's some look forward to coming right you got fans coming back, which is cool fans. Get to see Zion after all that's pretty lucky. I get to see Romeo Romeo Romeo was probably just waiting for fans and we got Charlotte coming in soon this week, right? Oh sure. Sunday a week from that's going to be fun video video tribute video tribute. Yeah, that's going to be fun so fans for that. Yeah, that would be good to get you going to get cheered food. Probably probably blurred right versus the only going to be two thousand fans in this day. You're going to throw cheese Adam you're here though. I mean going from 0 to 2000 you hear the difference head to the wealthiest Dog Shoppe stock us bring it to the Garden. This is kind of surprising. I thought tickets would be going for a lot more but you can actually get balconies seats for the Zion game for 90 bucks on StubHub right now. You can you got to get in there and start Pritchards corner or whatever. You want to call Richard Richard pressure valve I mean Thursday. Months later. He remembered. Yeah. All right. So we're out of gas. It's late. So we're going to wrap it up and we'll be back for Monday's game. And then we've got a ton of them coming up. So you'll see us again with any breaking news. 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"BlogTalkRadio you are tuned into the Connecticut Sports guys on BlogTalkRadio call in to join the conversation live at 3 to 3 for 1767 Tuesday and Thursday night at 7 p.m., Let's head into the studio right now. The Connecticut Sports guys are on the air. Am good evening everybody. This is Joe right? I'm a Canadian sports guys here with Nate Schmidt about to bring median right now as we get talking about the world sports package got two hours of Talk Sports Talk to get you tonight a lot of NBA and NCAA and some NFL and Major League Baseball as well made. How you doing? I am not doing quite well Joseph. Thank you for having me. Yeah. Thank you for being here. It looks like Utah looking to put make sure working Denver today. They're up 6211 early in the fourth quarter as they looked to put the cap on that series a lot of NBA we're going to get to tonight. And one thing I want to get to right away is something that would wage. Said today, I just noticed this the Raptors red flame van Fleet rolled out there the idea of boycotting a game against the Celtics because of the shooting in the Jacob Lake in Wisconsin. This is one of those things you could just you know, this what we talked about the covid-19. I wanted to see the games and what these players are going through and wanting to make a statement but I for me, it's been such a good thing going on with the NBA to type of birth. What we've had seeing the new stars to have this come up. I don't know if it's the best way for them to make a statement. What do you think? I don't know. I mean, I really don't know what you do. But in my opinion I agree with you. I think that basketball is these guys platform and if they want to really make a statement and they want to talk about this the best way to do it is to go out and play a great game and you know get interview she didn't and I mean the whole world's watching you when you're doing that. I just I don't know it may send the wrong message to some people, you know, how some people feel about these professional athletes. They think they're overpaid they they're lazy. They think they're you know arrogant. They think they're handed all this stuff. I don't feel like that but I feel like maybe skipping a playoff game might rub some people the wrong way, but I don't know. It's a tough. It's a tough situation. I mean, these are things that continually seem to be happening and I can understand why why people are alarmed About it, you know it just they're they're definitely needs to be some change. I'm all for that. But you know, I feel like we waited for a long time to get basketball and Sports in general to come back and I feel like if it you know, they they decide not to play in a protest. I feel like we're losing Sports all over again. I mean and I mean these things are going to continually happen. I just heard of a incident over the weekend of somebody I know that was ten minutes away from me this young, you know, African-American families. One of their their kids is a high school basketball player sophomore and he's he's a rising star at got in Port Chester New York, and he was out playing a driveway and someone called the local police showed up and the father had to come out and prove they they lived in that that house and you know wage Like my friend told me about it with next door these people for almost a year now and I mean they lived there to trouble at the end of a dead-end. It wasn't blocked traffic. It was just two kids playing basketball in the street in front of their own house. So I mean, yeah, I don't know, you know these things there's there's a lot more to has to be done to straighten this out. So I don't know even if the Toronto Raptors were to sit out. I don't know how much action that's going to bring about an impact. Like you said, it might turn heads the other way, you know, as you know, these guys don't care they got them money. What do they really care about? They don't live in these communities anymore about about you know down the line. So yeah, I agree I think going out playing the games wearing those shirts. Just getting your message out like you say interviews after the game is probably the best way to go right now, especially with what we said. They're getting good press right. Now the NBA radio has a dead. Good easier if you've got young stars coming out, you've got LeBron, you know seemingly turning back the clock, you know, the East Coast the Eastern bridge and off like it's going to pour the West Coast. You got a couple of exciting series and then you got like the the Lakers and Utah taking care of business. So it looks like we're going to have exciting NBA playoffs. Those guys would want to take that down right now. So going to bring that up to start so we can you know, do a little shop, you know, clean the shop before we go on. I'm going to let you take the lead on this because you follow expired yesterday. You know me. I'm a big Billy Donovan fan in OKC comes back and makes it a series against Houston and on paper. This looks like it should be a Victory lap or used to medium. Think about it. What did you see about OKC Well, I mean what can you say about the job that Billy Donovan is done? It's not exactly an All-Star team that he's got there. I do like some of their players. I like the roster. I do think they need to add some pieces in the offseason. But let's be honest they were down to oh nobody really gave him a shot before the series began. But especially after they went down to games to zero and didn't look great in either of those games. I think a lot of people thought it was over now. I I I have to admit I picked this to be a very close series. I picked the Rockets to win, but I said that I thought they would have trouble and I thought it would go deep after they went down to oh I started to suck have to admit. I started to question myself a little bit. I was like, oh maybe I was wrong on that but man they played great yesterday and I realized that you know not having Russell Westbrook is Thursday. Making a difference but just as great all-around game yesterday Chris Paul struggled a little bit in the first half but he came back strong in the second half and shot the ball. Well finished shooting ten of nineteen twenty-six points. I mean, that's that's a strong effort. A lot of people were saying Chris Hill was done. You know that Chris Hills, you know best days are behind him and that's kind of why the Rockets moved on from him, but I think he's this is this is his chance to show the rockets that they made a mistake that he can still play basketball and I feel like I did that yesterday. He played amazing Schroeder came off the bench and scored 30 points my boy who I called. I called it from the beginning gilgeous-alexander had an amazing game. He had 18 points 12 rebounds six assists and just really, you know played well on both ends. He's not just an offensive guy. Yep. Play defense and get after it. And that's what you have to do against the Rockets. Let's be honest. They're they're they're known for their scoring and OKC kind of beat them at their own game yesterday. You know you brought some good points about Chris Paul. One of the big critics are the critiques of em in a big problem. These ads reps is basically comes up short in the playoffs. I mean, he's definitely going to end up in Springfield. He's a Hall of Famer. He's going to be up there. There's no doubt about it. One of the great point guards of his generation. That's what everybody says when the playoffs come and the you know, the lights are the brightest Chris Paul disappears and I this this where you really dead, you know is if it too little too late for him to prove himself, he had all his critics were wrong or if he was able to lead birth. The Thunder Over the Rockets with a kind of clean up that part of his resume. Do you think? I mean, I think it definitely would say a lot if he were to come back play against his old team. I mean he you gotta remember it was just a year ago, you know, he was on the Rockets Ross and it was him. It was Chris Paul and James Harden, you know going for the title and you know, he got blamed for a lot of what happened in the playoffs last year and he got blamed, you know, the year before and every time you know, the team seems to lose it seems to be Chris Paul's fault. So if in you know if but if o case he's able to walk, you know beat the Rockets here. I think you have to give a lot of the credit to Chris, don't you? Yeah, I would say so I mean he is the leader. I mean obviously he's not the Chris koala five years ago or ten years ago, you know, he's got the the scars on his knees and at any point guard would have at this point in his career and of course the price tag, you know, he's getting paid now for what he did. Ten years ago and that's why a lot of people look at them and go he's not work forty million dollars or whatever, you know, and they say, you know, we can't do it like you used to but it's his mind. It's his leadership. They pay for now I get are we as as a sports too critical of these people and just judge them on their playoffs. I mean, I've always said, you know, I used to always people go used to always talk to about your experience today. What a great playoff performer Derek Jeter was it might theory is if you play enough to playoff games your stats are going to look like you're off. You're a regular regular season stat line for you know what I mean? If if you play an 81 playoff game see the 81 playoff games in the NBA your your prestige look like a regular season stat, you know, Derek Jeter at the end of his career. We played in a lot of playoffs and it round it out where he hit like 3:10, which wasn't lifetime average. Not bad. It's great job. Brooke to have that in the play-offs but I mean too much of this up on a short sampling. Do you think we're too critical on these guys? You know, it's it's kind of like football, you know, if the if the team wins the quarterback gets all the credit and if a team loses, you know, they blame the quarterback. That's I feel like that's kind of how it's been with Chris Paul when when its teams play well and and back in the day when he was playing for the Hornets. I know I'm dating myself, but I remember when he came into the league and he was playing for the Charlotte, you know, the Charlotte Hornets and you know, he had a bunch of great runs and that's kind of where he built his name was winning with with not much has found him. So this guy's done it before he's he's a really good basketball player. He's a really good point guard and what I love about Chris Paul is that you know, he scores when he has to I mean last time he needed to score some points and he needed to hit some buckets and he did score you had 26 points, but he saw he's so smart and cerebral cerebral like you were talking about he's Saw what was going on and he realized that that Schroeder had the hot hand and he was getting Schroeder involved and you know to come off the bench and score Thirty points like that, you know, you gotta give credit to Schroeder, but you have to give credit to Chris Paul for knowing that he needed some points Off the Bench. He needed somebody to come in and and provide a spark and he really got me that with Dennis Schroder and was able to get him involved quite a bit in that second half. Yeah and just looking over Denver is now snuck out in front of 2726. What about a minute-and-a-half left in the first half in that game and might everybody if you want to join the conversation 323-417-6701 age. We have Louisiana lines. I want to bring my own before we go any further our friend Louis from New Jersey see what he has to say right now. Hold on 1 second. All right. Louis all right, Alex. That is joe-joe. Okay, I got it. Right. All right. Well the Lakers and the bugs were finished at the first game is going to get your work. I wasn't really, you know, too shocked by losing the first games like, you know, I mean, they had their rough spots, you know after a long way off and they kind of lost the rhythm of it. But I think Dallas T. They found it took everything is going exactly as I thought it was going to be at my files take is still intact the ACT. I mean, you know LeBron is having a Resurgence. He's he looks like he's dead. You know, you always does this in the playoffs somehow, but also it doesn't help that now that we've had a Willard will not be available for game five. So they're dead. Yeah. It looks like the Lakers are going to be short work of importance going to be work with the Lakers when you look of it. Good without without losing the players are good. Yeah. Well, let's be honest. I mean even with Lillard yesterday it was I mean the score is not indicative of that game that game was not even as close. I mean it was a it was a bigger blow out than the score indicated in my opinion. I mean that they they were not in life, you know within shooting range of getting back into that ball game, right? You know why the Lakers scored eighty points, they scored eighty points in the first half that was a most points that they've scored in a playoff game in the first half since nineteen eighty-seven. I mean, I just feel like the effort was a little bit lacking by the by the Blazers defensively. What do you think Louis? So effort I think it's a very black lackluster effort. I mean, you know me too, especially in the third quarter. It's like, you know the Lakers up I want for just 30 points and yeah wage and the Blazers didn't do anything. You couldn't buy a basket if they wanted to they were just they were just flat-out awful. I believe a little bit of a surge in the fourth quarter, but that wasn't going to be enough. That was the big question mark about Portland coming in was going to be their defense anyways, and like you said it was Lillard out. He's the one who seemed to make the steel or whatever when they needed it. So even months or so it kind of just opened it up for the Lakers. One thing I want to do. Well I got you your cuz I know you're you're you're in New York area guy and I hate to be hyper-critical of this guy when you were here wasn't a big fan, you know, I said wait and see now but again, the injury bug has porzingis is this guy off soft. You hate to judge people cuz no one knows about the rest of the pay. No one knows how injured someone is but wasn't this one of the things we we we were used to bitch about when he was wage makes the fact that we probably Kazu used obviously hasn't gone away since he's he's moved out west Palm to always be hurt. Yeah, it's a good thing we give up on them. I mean, you know, we played a gazillion dollars to keep them. It didn't do anything and in the Congress here, so now he's you know his responsibility and you know, keep them. I mean whether going to do with injured players, he keeps getting heard he's costing us games. So, you know God keep U. Bomb, you know, they always say there's a difference between being hurt and being sore. I mean you saw Luka go out there a little like the other night and athletes anomaly. I mean you got sprained ankles. Yeah good good porzingis at least give it a shot. Do you have a Willis Reed go out there for two minutes. If you don't have it get off the court wage. Stand it, but is he if he's really injured fine. If it's soreness in this what we expect of our athletes for them to push it at this point in the playoffs, especially in a series of Lights tied like this. I mean just sit there and just go now, I'm sorry. I'm sitting down. I don't know. I I thought he was soft. I would kind of happy when the Knicks got rid of him. I you know, I don't usually got enough back in in return for him. But I mean, I don't think anything for us. Yeah. Well, I mean everything is he was already known as being you know always injured. I mean Dallas took him at the right time and we'll see how it works out down Louis. So he he's gotten a lot of credit to for you know, how he's played recently and he's had some decent games but let's be honest. He looks real good when Luke is out there because they're double triple team in him and that leaves that's leaving porzingis wide open and yeah, he's he's he's done well, and he's he's had some decent games but he didn't play it all the last game and they won without him. So I just think that shows that you know, it's it's the same old porzingis. I mean, he's got talent. He's a basketball player, but you have to play this is the biggest game of their season in my right. Yeah, it is. It could be the last. Louis what are you actually got on your mind tonight without going on in Jersey? What do you got coming up or what? What bother you today? But you know, we're just two weeks away from the NFL season that you know, we're just looking to see what the Jets are going to do because then you'll lie a help. And there's also other things like how do you figure that? There are some teams that are going to allow fans to play while most of us are not I mean cuz Miami's working on something off both the college and the protein Pittsburgh is working on something it was Kansas City while people like in New York and New England Los Angeles one of them at all. So, you know that that's well. That's a little you know misleading how some really able to get fans in While others are not of course. Well, there's a couple of conferences that will be allowed to play college football. But the big Tony I want to play well, they won't let him play. Can I say Lance laid out? Yeah, it would be we've been talking a lot about that. We both both mate and I really want to see that the top five conferences playing because we we think they pulled the plug too early age. Do you think they should use every chance to do it? You can wait till October to start playing. Why are you pulling the plug? You've had a kids in Camp all summer long and now all of a sudden you say go home or we're not without you know without me making a practice under your under your thumb anyways, but they're not going to play it or not going to get anything for it. I mean, it's it's it's just I don't know. Like I said, we talked the first came on about being Fleet saying about boycotting his I feel about college football. I I have a fan I want to see it as a fan. I want them to give these kids every opportunity to blood and I think you know, they could talk to me until they're blue in the face about 15 all about health and all about safety what to me what it is about is the Big house Penn State stadium Ohio State stadium Notre Dame stadium is going to happen open. So no tickets are going to be sold. So their programs aren't going to get those millions and billions of dollars a ticket sales and beer sales and hotdogs sales and t-shirt sales the appetite every Saturday afternoon. So the Bean Counter is upstairs said we're just going to cancel the season because we won't make enough money to to cover our costs. That's why yeah, that might being stopped. Well, yeah, and how do you how do you explain what the NFL they have? They said about seventy seven players that has a positive and now it looks like that a lab from my home state of New Jersey just plain screw it off. I mean, I'm seventy-seven false positives. Yeah. I mean that's what people were freaking out of days ago when they they were looking at their starting quarterbacks popping and Thursday. Starting receivers and all this stuff and then they you know, they go back and check everything and and all of them all of the positives that came back were apparently wrong and that caused that caused quite an uproar seem to have it mastered the testing and everything use the same services with the same things and it should be fine. I mean, I don't I I'm just I'm just at a loss for how football especially you've had the whole script watch and get all the buses and you couldn't get this right. I mean come on and off. All right. What did you think of the Indianapolis 500? Well, I agree to see much of it. But you know, I heard what I heard was a good race. I mean, those are one of the few ways. I follow, you know, like Daytona in the the major races, but I heard it was some of them a controversy though towards the end. I'll film again. I didn't hear that one. What happened? Well, there was something with it was what was on those are caution flags that came about towards the end of the race. Yeah, I know, you know raised his tough for me because you can watch it for hours or you could tune in the last ten minutes and get the whole story. I mean, that's always the racing goes for me right back Louis give you I'll give you a shout and we'll plug now where we've got you in on Saturday will be here for you on Thursday as well. But actually we're going to be on Friday night this week. We have a special guest house, but we had a Friday night. You got a phone. What same time is it the same time? It'll be on Friday Saturdays East Coast time. Then I'm going to call is 512-543-4662 will cover the Miss half of the New Jersey lab that screwed up the NFL package week at the Indianapolis five hundred. Maybe it will clear the US Open which starts on Monday. I know someone was I know someone who's very close to the following to that MLB baseball continue with the playoffs. So how long we got lots to talk about as we approach the best time of the year for for the sports season. So if you got time starting to 5 and 7 feel free to call. All right Louis. Thanks for calling Indian. We'll talk to you on Friday night. Everybody Louis from the Jersey Shore always a good call always comes in with something cool. So yeah, he had he had some good good facts and figures here to talk about and like I said, you know porzingis, you know as a Knicks fan. I know we he was you know, he's looking at him going to same thing that I was going. You know, what what what is you know, what do you think of wage is 4% now, but as you brought up as we were going down to run down today Luka doncic Yeah, he right now him in the Greek Freak look like they're ready to take over the league. I don't know. I mean, bronze still hanging out to his crown a little bit. I don't think Leonard's ever been really in pursuit of that ground. Who else would you think could be around? It could be better than those two right now. I mean, those are the best two players. In fact in my opinion right now and especially after watching that game the other night. I mean, how can you not say that guy is not one of the best players in the league. I've heard a lot of people say, oh he's not great yet or he hasn't done this or that yet. Well, let's talk about right now. He had 43 points. He had 13 rebounds. I mean he had a triple-double. With 11 assists and he was bringing the ball up. And serving as the point guard for the team. I mean, I'm not sure what else you could do, you know porzingis was a scratch didn't even play and I mean, I gotta be honest. I'm not real impressed with the guys around him. I mean, it's not like he's got two or three other All-Stars to lean on out there. He's basically basically playing against this Clippers team taking them on by himself and he's and he's winning. I mean, you gotta give him the credit. He he played an amazing game and I must admit when he took that shot at the end. I'm sitting there watching it with my whole family and my parents and everybody and i e takes that shot and I'm like, what's he doing there only days. I'm like, why is he shooting a great job? No. No. No, it was like a game to play. I used to play basketball. Any any time I was open from anywhere from like the top of the key and it was going up. It was I was not wanting to drive to what I can when I could pop it from outside. I was always the fun better way to do it. When you look at this of the the trade to get home. I mean, it's kind of worked out for both teams Trae young is not exactly been a you know, a stiff in Atlanta so far. I mean, he's done some good things there. I mean, but it is Faith in Atlanta seems to be the place where careers go to die. We're galles seems to be under Mark Cuban drain at least the place where you become a superstar. What do you think when you look at galaxies guys? Is it an even trade one guy an advantage here or talk to me about what you think trade young has done for Atlanta compared to Luca to Dallas office. I am not a big Mark Cuban fan, but I have to give him credit here. I mean to see the deceive the potential in this kid, he played great last year as a rookie and all that he's done this year is get better and better and I like Trae young. I think he's he's a good player and I don't think that the whole the Hawks like, you know, totally got burned but do I think he's Luca caliber now, I mean, I I think Luka is set up to be one of the top three players in the league for years and I think Trae Young's got some talent. I think he has played well on his first two seasons wage. Hawks and maybe you know, the team's success I think is also a factor in this. I mean if the Hawks were playing right now and they were in the in the playoffs, you know, we'd be talking more about about Tray but you know, we gotta talk about what's happening and this kid, you know got his team into the playoffs, you know played well all season and now he's just taking it to another level and You Gotta Give the Mavericks organization credit for recognizing the talent potential that this kid had and also, you know develop it's amazing and I I am very impressed. I'm on the train. I'm a big fan. I was so impressed with him the other night and he's played well this whole series so What can you say about this kid? I mean you can't criticize I mean right now like you said, he's one of the two best players the thing that I'm thinking out but it was a tray Young Who now seem to be stuck in Atlanta and let's face facts Lana. It never seems to put a team together. They seem to never have the right coach at the right time with the right players. They're both always realigning or one of those teams that constantly rebuilding constantly rebooting constantly. They never have the patience. I mean, you know, they've got some young players downgrade, you know, either want to get out of there or it's not going to work out. So we look at it trade young. I mean I look at you and I go why couldn't we work some kind of a deal with for the next he put a beautiful and it makes uniform right now. She's somebody that could wage. Regarding into something special either kind of player that makes me you know, really a star to build around, you know, you know, you know, you get ever be as big as long as you know be honest or Luke, but I mean can be a normal child guard and we wanted a better guards an individual and he's young but I am stuck down near on the Hawks and Atlanta and you know, the mix are stuck with what they got. Like you said power cord power forward power forward maybe a center powerful wage. You know, where do you see Trey young? You? See you see his career path being in Atlanta. You didn't think it's going to be another lost career where he's going to be one of these guys have become one of them, you know travelling shows that goes around maybe even hook up with the right place. Well, I don't think that the I think the Hawks are pretty high on him. I mean, I I agree with you that he would sincerely help out the Knicks and they they would I could really use a point guard like that that can score and they can also distribute the basketball like Trae young. Can I think he would be he would be huge but I really think that they're they're kind of counting on building around him. I like John Collins the power forward on on the Hawks. He's shown some promise. But you know to be honest, like you said, they really haven't done much since the days of Dominique. I mean, they they never really got over the hump and you know one when a title or anything but they were all competitive and they always seem to you know, give teams trouble in the playoffs and and since then it's kind of just been like you said a rebuild after rebuild so I think if they want, yep. Of any success and they want to start moving this thing forward and want to start, you know building on the rebuild. I think they need to keep him as their centerpiece and I try and put some guys around him. Yeah, what would you later? They could I just don't know if he'll have the patience to wait if they don't do something quickly. I mean they've gotta do something give him you know, what has happened like to stay because otherwise I think he'll be looking. Hey, I want to I want to be in the playoffs. I want to show my we're on national TV in front. I want to get noticed. I want to get the max contract which you probably will gain any weight, but I mean still he wants to be known as when the best players update on Utah. They're up by eating out 5143. We're going towards half-time. And for anybody out there remember 323-617-6701 if you want to chime in we're talking NBA basketball right now and you know as we go down the list the the the team the other side of the Court Paul George Paul George Mister class. I thought not coming up and doing his job right now the Clippers. Yep. You think about what's wrong with the Clippers right now? They're supposed to be you know, number two against number 7 really the best player but looking I mean even even go ahead and Page him. What what's up with the Clippers? I mean, I think Kauai played pretty well, but you know, you just you can't say enough about what Luca did and you know, you also like you mentioned you've got to I mean, there's there's got to be some questions around what Paul George has been doing. I mean, the guy has not shot the ball. Well, the one thing that he's always been able to do is is score baskets and and hit key shots down the stretch and he's not been doing that. And you know, I don't know what the answer is for them. I mean, I think they're not out of this thing. They still have a chance to come back and and win this series. I wouldn't count them out yet, but dead. Paul George has to play better. I mean there there's no doubt about it. They gave up a lot to get Paul George and has he lived up to you know, we're talking about the trade for Trae young and Luka. I mean, what about the trade for Paul George? I mean they gave up a king's Ransom to get that guy into LA and he was supposed to be, you know, the sidekick collided to take him over and he was pretty much he was pretty much absent at the end of that game. He's supposed to be a difference-maker. Any other guy who does resume really might get a kick in the can hear from this Doc Rivers, you know. Rivers it was we were supposed to Bubble was all about, you know, the LA vs LA it was just going to be you know, it was kind of like pre-season warm-up whatever you want to call it really just until its elegance. And then whoever comes out of the East would have to pay off one of the the Lakers or Clippers and right now. Rivers it meaning you gotta say that Carlisle has been doing a little bit better on the X's and O's at least and the other glass came in. Rivers is Doc Rivers women. I was I was looking to get codes and The coaches that I think have less to worry about is it Nick nurse Spoelstra Carlisle? Cuz they want Mike Rivers needs to get that title. Don't you think? Yeah. I mean, you know, he did win a championship with the Celtics but let's be honest. I mean that that was a pretty that was pretty much those three guys. I mean he had kg he had Paul Peirce. He had Ray Allen and then also they had Rondo who took it amazing in the playoffs and in the finals that year so they have four really good players that that got Dhaka championship and he needs as we talked about last week, you know, this this is this has got to be I mean he has to win this series or doc. I think it's got a lot of questions to answer because he's obviously got the better team if you walk up and down the roster and look at look at who they got, you know, Marcus Morris Kawhi Leonard Paul George, you know, Reggie Jackson's a decent player. I mean they they've got a better roster. I mean they've got one of the top three players in the NBA, you know with our boy Leonard and he's got to prove that he can win this thing. And so I think this next game is huge for them. I think they have to come away with the with the w and he has to get them playing better. He has to get them motivated and I did not like a g at the end of regulation there. They got they got a time out and he said a play up to end the game and he kind of did an ISO with Leonard over on the side and he took a you know, a 26-foot fadeaway jumper and you know, it wasn't a great shot in my opinion and I just think that he needs to win the series or he took a lot of questions to answer. Yeah. I mean, they might have to just throw it out there, but you might be loose. I mean he might be cut loose mean they spend a lot of money on this team. You know, it is just seems it just seemed as supposed to be the team that finally kicked it in and jumped in front of the Lakers and so far. They're they're good. They're they're but they're supposed to be ahead of the Lakers right now. The Lakers are taking care of business with their not so yeah, I think Doc Rivers has a lot of question marks over his head right now and and he needs to win this series. You want to go East right. Now. One of the things you brought up today an orangutan was the Heat against the Pacers and that's a good question. I tell you I don't know if the Pacers are just one of those happy to be there in the playoff type teams and doesn't really have all the tools or the one player that you can go to they don't really have that go to Asia like to me that can take over a game. So are the Pacers 0 team a team that that is that bad or just that that a mediocre one of those mediocre Eastern teams, and that's why Lani Feast on it, but I'll tell you the mortgage bolster the more I liked him. I tell you I wouldn't leave first went down there and took over and you know, you wouldn't Championship with LeBron and with you know, it would change the way it can take the name right now, but you know, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait and then Chris Bosh. I mean I didn't give him a lot of credit. I thought you know, that's okay, but he has not let the Heat Crash and Burn and a lot of it has to do with Pat Riley. I'll give you that, you know as the executive but Spoelstra has really solidified himself as pretty much to face that of that team right now. I mean I his players are getting better and they're younger and you're about to get millions for himself, but dead. What do you think? What do you think about Spoelstra? Well, I I agree. I think I'm like you I'm like everybody I didn't give him a whole ton of credit for you know what those teams did just because obviously, you know, they got LeBron LeBron came down there with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh and they they kind of had a super team. I mean, they did win some championships and they got to the finals pretty much every year that they had those, you know, the big three but you have to give supposed to credit for how he handled those guys. I mean Phil Jackson is recognized as one of the greatest coach in in pro basketball history and look at the team's he had I mean, it's all about managing the players that you have and I don't think that he's gotten enough credit for what he's done with the team that he's had this year. Look at Jimmy Butler, you know, he's a great player but he's gotten a bad rap from his last two stops. I mean they they basically shipped him out of Philadelphia. He had to stop in Minnesota which didn't really go as planned, you know, typically basically got Thibodaux fired because Thibodaux brought him in to you know, essentially helped those younger players Karl Anthony towns and Wiggins and Company to kind of bring that team together and it didn't really work and that kind of that cost Thibodaux is job. I mean, let's be honest and how he's gone down to Miami and sponsors gotten everything out of them. And even even yesterday when Butler was hurt and he's got a nagging shoulder injury. Here we go with talking about Five Fingaz Butler was hurt and he still played. I mean, he only played I think he played what twenty twenty-three minutes or something like that and he only had six points, but he had some key steals money down the stretch and he played great and look what he's done with with the young guys. He's really developed these young players bam at a bio is one of the birth Young post players in the league and you know only playing one year at Kentucky. He was really raw when he got there and yesterday he had 14 points 19 rebounds six assists and you know, I really believe they won that game because of hero coming off the bench Tyler hero came in had 16 points and he had some big buckets month at the end of that game and that's that's also due to coaching man. I mean Spoelstra's got him believing in himself. He's carved out a little role for him coming off the bench and he's got that package, you know hitting on all cylinders and you can say whatever you want to about the Pacers, but they beat him for games 2-0. So right regardless of how good you think the Pacers are they dealt with them and got rid of them and they are moving on so I do really respect the job that's posters done this year. And I think he deserves a lot of credit for how this club Playing right now when you look at the pace you think about the cases where you things missing from them? If you if you in your your opinion, we have everything like you said God they're they're missing that Superstar. I mean, they they really don't have a superstar per se. I think that they thought that our Depot was going to be that guy said they got him from OKC and he played really well until the knee injury and I think you saw flashes of it last night he played well at times he finished with 25 points off. He had eight rebounds five assists and five steals. So I think you saw flashes of that old Allah Depot that they that they're going to need but I think they need some more pieces. They've got my Turner who's a a pretty decent big man. He had 22 points and 14 rebounds yesterday. And then they've got a kind of an unsung hero, which is TJ Warren number. Who's a guy out of state who started his career in Phoenix? He's played really well for the Pacers and he's kind of been that second that second scoring option. He had 21 points yesterday. And you know, he's no slouch. He's a good player. I think if they can get one more guy to kind of help that you know, improve that nucleus and they need to get sabonis back to I think him being out definitely affected them, but they they obviously need at least one more good player to help all the depot and helped TJ Warren. Yes, a Boniface father kind of settles down everything. He's that weird passing Center. I remember his father was one of the best passing Center of ever saw right up there with Bill Walton and you know life is one of those things when you have a center that can pass and going to be a playmaker. It really adds something to your offense that many people don't have Usually the center of it goes to the center. It's it's either kick backed to restart to play or you know, he's going to go he's going to go up with it and try and push it into the wage being that you and you got a guy like sabonis. It can be creative with the ball and it's really an incredible incredible credible match up for anybody to take on now off we go from a guy who is okay. No problem. They were going to be fired there in Miami and Philadelphia fired their coach have seven seasons. This was the guy that would you know, the program wait for putting the program together. We want patients. They seem to have all the players coming down there a couple of years ago. Like you said with Jimmy Butler they had, you know, JJ Redick it looked like they were on the precipice of being what Milwaukee is rep. You know and then they decided to go in a different direction to me. I don't know you tell me is it the coaches fault into the GMC fault? Is it just a fact of life? They don't have players that together. I think a lot of it needs. You know, I'm a Duke guy and I always stick up for my duke guys, but I do think you need to give a lot of the blame here on Elton brand. I mean it was his decision to let Jimmy Butler go it was his decision to let JJ Redick go and and now you're fired the coach. I mean they were outgunned in that series against the Celtics. Let's be honest the Celtics even without Gordon Haywood had so much more Talent. They had so much more start off then the Seventy Sixers do and I know it takes a lot of slack especially on this show in the past, but he got it done man. I mean, he he played pretty well I mean wage Scoring Thirty points and night he was getting his double-figure rebounds. I mean, you can't really ask for much more out of MB and you have to admit, you know, they were playing without the wage point guard. Whatever you think about Ben Simmons. He is a starter on that team so clean without him definitely set them back and not have that other two, you know, whether whether you like JJ Redick or not and he still scored some points and let it up down for the Pelicans. So, you know not having Jimmy Butler and not having read it off that definitely hurt them and then not having Simmons that hurt them and it looks like they kind of just poured all the blame on Brett Brown and after seven seasons, you know, somebody had to take them all and I guess I guess it was Brett that got the, you know got all the blame on this one, but I think that a lot of the a lot of the blame has to go towards Elton brand to in my opinion. Yeah, I I totally agree with you. You know, I'm not a big Ben Simmons fan I get here yet. Another kid would have probably benefited by staying in college a little bit longer needs to develop some kind of an outside game. You know, he's one of those he's he plays the point guard well, but he's not a traditional point guard. I know, you know, everybody dreams of getting the next Magic Johnson, you know, a six-foot-nine player that can play the point but they're not hard. They're not easy to find every Penny Hardaway was like that. I'm more of a scorer then in a slasher. I mean they're they're hard to find those type of guys that can at that size play that kind of a role. I mean, I mean, I I don't know maybe I agree I agree with you I agree with you, but you know when he had Jimmy Butler on the team and he had Jeff. Click on the team to other really good scoring options, you know Simmons play pretty well. He's a decent distributor of the basketball. He's he's got some game to him and he just need some help. I mean not having them, you know hurt them. I think like I said, but I think he needs to develop he needs to get better. But they're they're they're sticking with them. I mean I listen to the Elton brand interview today and basically, you know, he was asked some pretty tough questions and his answers were in that quote. We're sticking with Ben Simmons and we're sticking with Joel embiid and we're going to build around those two guys and I expect those two guys to be around here a long time. Those were his exact words. So if that's the case, you know, what do you do now? I mean where else are they going to hire to coach this team that needs to be figured out really quickly and then they need to they need to get some more pieces. I mean that that's if they want to compete in the East they're going to have to get suck. Else we can score and take some of the pressure off MB download don't you think they definitely agree with you there and did the one thing that worries being you brought it up. So rightly that I'm not rightly dryly J. Right the first person everybody's going to talk about is Villanova coach Jay Wright, you know, Philadelphia guy Philadelphia Legend. He's he put Villanova up there right with you do great with Kentucky and one of the best teams in the nation right now for like the last seven to ten years. And first of all, I hate this I hate when college coaches go you and I talked about before, you know, Billy Donovan fan and play the Snyder is doing well in Utah, but for the most part these guys when it goes to the pros, they have problems you look at what happened to Rick. Rick would still had some success with the next but then he goes up to the Celtics and he can't Redo what he did in Madison Square Garden. So I think you you have to if you're going to go and get Jay right? You got to get you got you actually get a GM to go with it to get rid of a friend cuz you have to have two guys same page Elton brand should go out and get himself in the available brands stay in Elton brand to go out and get himself a good place to go to one of these successful rosters and bring approaching if he's going to bring in J. Right then it's going to be the same problem. It's going to be one of them, you know, the having a different Vision than the other way. I perceive it. I mean when you're back, you're different Jay Wright Villanova guy the hospital and back to Villanova. Alton Brown is a dupe guy. You know what? I mean? You're going to get a great College try to bring green Coach K up at least Brandon Coates change kind of know each other. I don't know about being about J, right. Yeah, no, I I love J. Right and I think he's one of the classiest guys that I've ever met. He's proven that he is an excellent. Excellent college football coach. He's a great motivator. He can you know, he can develop players he can also, you know, he knows how to use Talent. So I think he's proven that he's one of the best college basketball coaches in the game and one of the best coaches in the modern era now, does that mean that it'll translate to the NBA definitely not I think that we've seen it time and time again where these guys have a lot of success in college and they think that they're going to walk right into the NBA and have the same type of success and that doesn't always happen. It's a completely different game, you know, it's not the game is completely different and then dealing with the players is completely different. You're no longer dealing with impressionable young men you're dealing with God. Millionaires who most of the time make more money than you and a lot of times like we've seen one to have just as much power as you do. So I just don't think that bringing in J right is going to you know, immediately make them, you know a contender in the East. I don't know I mean do I think do I think getting him in hiring him and bringing him in or is a bad idea know but I think you also need to look around and really do your due diligence and figure out somebody that could come in and work with the guys you have and help you develop them know some of these younger guys that you're going to have to get in the draft and and bring in through free agency. Now the other guy they really had talked about, you know, the big two so far that I've heard is Jay Wright's Chicken Tyronn Lue and what do you what do you think about Tyrann see tire has another one of those guys? He's got a Spoelstra flag on his birthday. Because he's losing LeBron's guys, you know, he had to come in and help LeBron win with the Cavaliers. He one of those guys who always comes in the conversation. I guess he does have as as ourselves used to we used to say he's got a pelt on his wall. So I mean that's something going for him in the right direction. There's not a lot of coaches out there that have a championship that they can walk in on a resume when you're doing the interview with them. It wouldn't be a bad situation for Tyronn Lue because he does have power it's not like I think you'll lose suffers when he has substandard talent or is in the rebuilding mode. I think he's the kind of guy that maybe would do well here because he knows how to get out of the way of his Stars so to speak so and he was a player so at an NBA player so I mean wouldn't be a bad choice. I liked him better off. Like J. Right? Actually, I agree with you. I agree with you a hundred percent. I know that I know we should probably go back and forth on this but I gotta be honest. I agree with you. I he he is a player's coach and I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. I mean in the NBA sometimes that's a really good thing. I think he would get along with embiid and I think that being a former NBA point guard like he was and playing on those. You know, you gotta remember he played on those Lakers teams back in the day with some of the championship teams with the Lakers. So the guy knows knows what it takes to win the net to win an NBA championship. I mean, you can say whatever you want to about Tyronn Lue but he's been a part of championship teams. He want to title in Cleveland when you know other coaches had LeBron there and failed. He was there when LeBron was there and one so right, you know, they got to they got to several Finals game. Us but they also got to 1 then they beat the Golden State Warriors. So I don't think you can just discount Tyronn Lue and say that he's not a good coach and that he just you know was riding LeBrons coattails. I don't believe that I think that he he's proven that he can get it done and I think he kind of got the Raw Deal getting kicked out of Cleveland like he did. I don't think he would be a bad fire here. I think he could help Ben Simmons and helped him develop and I think he would get along with Joel embiid. And I think if you got him some players to work with that core and money to build on what they have already. I think he could manage those guys and and do a pretty good job. What about Tobias Harris? I mean, you're Tennessee guy there he's he's not in New York. He's got a great rep out of New York City. Is it is Tobias Harris a month. Solid NBA player is E-2 streaky. What's holding him back from or he just overshadowed by Simmons NMB Well, I obviously am a obviously like him just cuz he did play here in in, Tennessee for a year and I got to see him play Under Bruce Pearl and and he had a really good good one year here in Knoxville, but you know, he's kind of bounced around a lot. I mean, let's be honest. He's been on four or five different teams, you know, he started with the Bucs. He went to Long Island. Oh, then they shipped them out to Los Angeles, you know, and then he then he then he went to Detroit and he was in Detroit for a couple of seasons and then off to Philadelphia. I think he kind of is what he is. I mean, let's be honest. He gets paid like a superstar and I don't think he's a superstar. I think he's a good NBA player. He's a dog Rebounder he gets lots of rebounds he can score when he has to. I mean, he's not he's not a 35-point a night guy, but you know, he can score it 16 to 26. No problem. And he just kind of is what he is. I think some people expect him to be you know, some All Star because he's paid like one and you know, you can't really get mad at him for people paying him like he is I mean, let's be honest the money in the NBA is a little crazy right now and some guys are are paid maybe a little bit more than they're worth AKA John Wall. Yeah AKA Mike Conley. I love Mike Conley and he's a good player and he's obviously helping the Jazz but he he's paid 30 something million dollars a year and Tobias got that took a million dollars and everybody expects him to lead them to the championship. And I I don't think he's that guy to lead a team to a championship, but he can be a nice piece if you can keep him. Round and maybe let him play on the same team for a couple of years and get comfortable with his surroundings. I think he could be, you know viable option for them moving forward. I was just looking at his desk 19 and 7 now. That's a nice. Those are nice. That's a nice line 1907 and then about four assists. I mean, there's nothing wrong if he's your third option. I mean, right it's like 37% from 3 not bad for a for a six foot six small forward. I mean, he's kind of a tweener. I mean probably should be a two-guard maybe if you know is a two guard would be better for him and his size. But you know, you need him at the small forward. Like you said he rebounded well for someone that's besides at that at that position. So, I mean, that's another reason I think why Brown had to go I mean you got to buy his hair as you've got and be your new home. Some Talent on that team and Simmons and I mean outside of Al Horford who's as old as I am. I think you know they had it it really thought that was one of the stupid that was a stupid Help Brad movies. I mean Al Horford should be you know should be, you know, sending Christmas gifts to help Brands and next 20 years or bringing you help you a salary. That's what I was talking about earlier when I was saying, you know that Elton brand needs to you know, show me some of this blame. I mean, they're paying Al Horford twenty-eight million dollars and let us be honest. Al Horford's best days are long behind him. I feel like his Thursdays were when he was back playing with the Hawks and you know, he did. Okay for the Celtics. He he he was still you know, a decent player, but he's thirty-four years old dead. He's just he's way past his prime. They they had to play him cuz they were paying him Thirty million dollars almost but he's not he needs to go. They they need to find somebody younger that that has a little more energy. And am I I just I think he was definitely a part of the problem. They're here going in this in this series against the law takes let's be honest. There was a reason why the Celtics got rid of them and and we're willing to part ways with them. So I think Elton needs to you know, take take to take his medicine for cyber Horford. And you know, I'm looking at this and Tobias Harris makes thirty two million dollars. He makes more than MB dust. So I think that's why some of the you know, I think that's why some of the people give him give him grief as cuz he he is he's very handsomely paid but like you said he gets his points. He gets his rebounds. He's not a bad player, but they they just need one more wage. Or to help them out. Yeah, they need to they need to they need to find a role for him in the role and let's do it. So we got you have the teams are left in the playoffs right now. You got Brooklyn is looking for a coach Philadelphia is looking for a job. So those are those are two places that you would think would be a nice landing place for the right coach because you do have some Talent, you know, two ranches back next year. You'll know when the high-end Tire hirving would have demanded back and the Nets do have some count on that roster. They should be in the in the running club house next year when you look over in the west right now A team right now is down by 9 at halftime Denver. We all took Denver was going to be one of the surprise teams in the playoffs and right now it looks like they might go out for one Utah. They were the number three seed dead. You does number six seed do you think their coach is in good shape or is their coach on the hot box? And that Denver job might be open after this year. I you know, I don't know. I I don't know. I I wasn't as high on the nuggets as as some other people where I actually thought they kind of overachieved this year for what they have wage. I don't know if if you can put all this on the coach. I think it's very interesting. I think what's really going to be interesting to watch is who bought the 76ers higher and who the Brooklyn Nets higher I know, you know, we've got names floating around out there like Jeff Van Gundy. You know Ty Lue is also been mentioned for the brake job, you know, obviously they've got the incumbent Jacque Vaughn who's also supposed to get some some consideration for that job. So I think you know, I think it all kind of depends on who those guys. Hi, ma'am. And what happens in Brooklyn and what happens in Philadelphia and that that'll kind of be a big factor in what happens elsewhere. I think if some of these guys have been mentioned for those jobs are possibly still around I could see Denver possibly making a move but I haven't heard a whole lot of noise about them, you know being fed up and get ready to to make a make a move just yet. I I I think it would be premature and I I think he deserves at least another year. I just thought because I said, well a lot of us thought they were going to be I am mad at me, you know going out for one kind of takes a little bit of the air out of your sales if you think your but then again you're out west so I mean all those teams out of powerful so you can add a bad week against somebody look at it had it not draft NBA coming up. I'm looking at Birth. Stop draft by CBS. We have some interesting interesting things going on there. First of all, of course, the two Wills will have the number one that picked T will to continually don't seem they're they're they're like the Atlanta Hawks North it seems for some reason to me. They're always continuing to rebuild them. But you know, they've been trying to build around towns, you know, if we talking D'Angelo Russell was there now the picture they say it easy Edwards and I know you're very high on him coming out of Georgia after 1 year. Give you what your feelings on Anthony Edwards You know as far as this list of names go I talked to you about the other night. I went through the top 100 and I I really tried to dig into it and figure out who the Surefire stock is and I don't know. I don't know. I don't see I don't see a Zion. I don't see a job Marantz on here. But with Edwards at least you have a somewhat proven commodity the kiss was a you know, number one player in high school, you know number one player in the country coming out of high school. He ended up going to Georgia and playing under tan cream their home. So he got to he got to experience playing college basketball at least for a year. I know that the season was cut short a little bit but trust me I saw him play he had his moments. He can light it up and I feel like if the Timberwolves Timberwolves really want to take the next step. I feel like this is the guy they need he can score he's dead. Five and half, you know, he's got good size for a shooting guard and I feel like that's the position that they're really lacking in when I take a look at this roster. I like D'Angelo Russell. I know he's not the greatest defensive point guard in the league, but he's he's very good offensive point guard he can score he can distribute the basketball he can run the offense. He's proven it off kind of bounced around a little bit too. But he's proven everywhere. He's been that he he is a very good NBA basketball player. So I like that at the point guard position and then call Anthony towns. I mean Monday what you want about them. They're keeping them and they're building around him. So I don't think that draft and Wiseman is going to be a good move for them because they already have that guy off. So I feel like with what they've got. I think that Anthony Edwards is probably the best option for him now, you know, As in recent years, you've seen a lot of the a lot of the guys that end up getting drafted are you know, folks from overseas and a lot of Europeans and look at that list and there's a lot of those guys on here too. But just based on what I've seen from overall Talent from the from the ceiling this this kid is Young got a lot of a lot of room to grow. He's got a lot of potential and I feel like if he goes to the right spot, I think he could be a really good basketball player and I he's got he's got it he's definitely dead. You know, he's got the Swagger and I feel like that's something that the Timberwolves need they need somebody that can come in there that believes in themselves and you know isn't afraid to go out there and shoot the rock a little bit and this guy can fill it up. So as far as you know, just the best bet for what they have and what's available. I feel like Edwards is the the best pick for them wage. The only thing I'd be worried about is what I'm looking at the strengths and weaknesses that's listed here on The Scouting Report. He seems to be kind of a mirror image but D'Angelo Russell maybe with a better shot D'Angelo Russell about 6 or 5. They called they called the Zach LaVine type what they say here is he's a great shot of Ginger off the dribble, you know one has to plug their potential grow into a reliable offensive initiator with scoring upside down. They said that you know question was shot selection record that can I just would worry about them being kind of the same player but that can work two jobs crazier in Monroe work together. It's been over the years. There's been back courts that have the same strengths that work together, so it wouldn't be a bad way to go. So, yeah, I'd give them a show dog. shouted that Yeah, I mean I do believe they are they are kind of similar players but I feel like the Angelo Russell's more of a more of a point guard. I mean, he's more he can't I know he's more of a scorer firm point guard but he's not like a selfish guy. He he doesn't you know, he he doesn't have to score every single time. I mean, I know he does shoot a little bit more than some people would probably like wage but I feel like if he's got a guy like Edwards on the floor with him that can help space the floor out and create some room down low for accounts to operate. I feel like it might be a pretty good pick for him. I I think this kid is you know is very athletic and he's a scorer man. I mean he can he can make it happen. He can shoot off he can you can penetrate he can drive you can dish it. I feel like I feel like those two guys will work well together. And and you're right because you know D'Angelo Russell Dinwiddie with Caris LeVert with Joe Harris. He was able to find his offense and still create for those two those three guys two years. So you're right. He does exactly these players so that could be an it could be a nice backcourt there and we've towns upfront that could be really put them to step in ahead. Second round on Thursday knock draft up looking at it anytime. I see this last name. It just drives me crazy. Well Melo ball going to Golden State why? Yeah, I know about that one. Unless you weren't sure about Klay Thompson being ready home, you know and you'd want to put lamelo at the point and have Curry play a little bit more to guard. I don't see this at all. I mean first of all, I know the ball father is not what it used to be. No, no exam detention him anymore. He's not on all the shows. We already know he crashed and burned as a celebrity but the ball family and the way he kind of self-destructed his his career's taking him all over the world, you know, pull him in and out of programs and you know, I'm not seeing these kids aren't good with kids. They just been put in bad situations, but do we really know what lamelo ball is? Have? We seen him at the highest level of college playing a game? It's the players. He's going to play any NBA. We don't know. We don't know that we're we're Croatia Poland where would be playing that that never seems in Australia and he played in Lithuania for a year, you know, he's kind of been all over the place and you know, I think that one of the reasons you don't hear from Lavar anymore is because wage, you know Lonzo fell off the map and let's be honest Lonzo was talked about I mean the Lakers took him really high and he was supposed to be the next you know, he was supposed to be the next Derek Fisher. He was supposed to be the next, you know, big deal point guard in LA and they moved off on What's that? Oh, yeah, I mean the the comparisons that were thrown around were ridiculous. And if you go back to lonzo's loan years in college, I really go back to that game where UCLA play Kentucky and Lonzo had to go face-to-face with de'aaron Fox who's now a member of the Sacramento Kings and de'aaron fox just abused him Fox had over forty points and he just shut down Lonzo. And that was just a real eye-opener for me as far as walk-ins are was and if you look at what Lonzo is now, he's the second or third point guard on the Pelicans. So I don't think that you can really judge. Lamelo based off on Lonzo. But you know, what have you seen from him? Like you said, he's been playing overseas. The the competition has been suspect. I just think you're taking a big gamble with him dead. Let's be honest. The Golden State Warriors are set to win right now. They want to get Klay Thompson back and healthy. They want to get Steph Curry back and healthy. They've still got Draymond Green. I don't know how many more years he's got left. But he played pretty well when he was the Lone guy out there actually still playing after Steph had given up and faked an injury. So he could go take a year off like the rest of his buddies were Draymond was still out there playing so, you know, they've got a decent little core and that's why I've heard a lot of people talking about the Golden State Warriors trading this pick and picking up a veteran and you know, I wouldn't be opposed to that if they depending on who they could get if they could trade this this number to pick and get somebody that can help them right now. I think that that is the best thing that the Warriors can do don't you? Oh definitely either a Swingman wage. Related to in the 3 or the one in the to somewhere against awesome guy that could play right in between those those between all three positions even better wage to take some time up a curry, you know steps. He's not old yet, but he's been through two Wars Thompson serious leg injury, so you want to give him a little off a few days off and stuff. Yeah. I mean it would be it would be great to get you know, I don't know someone like go DeRose you're from the Spurs something like that some kind of player like that. Yeah, I would not be a payment. You're probably not going to get him. But that's the type of player. I would look for. No, I like that. I like that. I didn't really think about him. But I think I think that would be a great guy to get and I think that I think the Spurs might be willing to deal him for that number to pick if there's a guy that they really liked but you know, the the Warriors they do have Andrew Wiggins and they've got Eric paschall and I said we talked about last show Eric paschall had an amazing rookie season. I mean, this is a guy that there wasn't a whole lot expected from him coming out of Villanova and he came out and just hadn't had an aging Brookie campaign and I I don't think he gets the credit that he deserves considering what he had around him out there and Golden State and he played really well. So, you know, I know that Steph is only Thursday to draiman's only 30 and Klay Thompson's only Thirty but those guys played in what six championships in a row so you're talking about Thursday. Need to games plus, you know four rounds of basketball six years in a row. That's a lot of extra wear and tear on the body. So how long can those guys keep it up? You know what? I mean? I think they need to get a veteran. I think they need to trade that pick. They got lucky getting that that number two position and that was that was good for them. And I think it's great. I think they need to explore all options. But I think what's best for them is to trade for a proven veteran that can help them right now and think about, you know, getting younger players later. And just now is the Connecticut Sports guys talking NBA basketball right now, 323-417-6701 if you want to come in and give us your opinion on what's going on, we're talking at the a draft right now or we'll talk anything else you wanted, but we're keep on going in the NBA draft and on this mock draft and I'm looking at the other guy you talked about in this is a position. I hate going to with experience and college James Wiseman Center, you know Big Time Center out of Memphis. I don't know with the fact that he had the college level. He's only played what the three gates. He didn't play very many. I know that there was some questions about his eligibility and he was suspended. He came back. He played a game or two and then they needed up pulling him again and he got injured and then he just called it and you know, he's got some potential. I mean, he's seven feet tall. He's two hundred and fifty pounds. So he's not it's not like he's a stick figure out there. I mean, he's a big guy and I saw some I saw some things that were that were nice, but I feel like he's more of a project you know than than a sure-fire thing. I mean, I just don't know if he's a first day and be a starter. I mean he maybe he's very talented chef and I do think he's got some gain but I just I feel like there's a lot of question marks around him and and like you said last week the game of the NBA is so much different than College wage. So much different than high school. This kids used to be in the best player on the court at all times and when he gets to this, you know gets to the upper echelon of the NBA. That's not going to be the case. So what's the kids work ethic? Like, you know, does he want does he want it? Does he want to put in the time and the effort that it takes to be a superstar in the NBA? I think some kids just think if they can show up and Lace them up and go out there and they'll just they'll be the best player in the NBA cuz they've always been the best player and that's not how it works. So, I don't know. Especially you know, he he probably used to playing against guys that are a couple inches shorter than him at least I'd given occasions. You know, he probably doesn't have to go against a seven footer a 6:11 guy every night except maybe during his youth, you know Seasons during the summer. So for the most part, you know, if you're looking at its High School prep career, he probably dominated you know, and they just didn't I usually I had trouble seeing it translate, you know, I just do I mean I that's why Tim Duncan when he stayed for so long when he came out. He was a polished David Robert to go Patrick Ewing same thing Elijah one same thing Ralph Sampson same thing because they were planning his big guys all the time released or Thirty forty games a year. So when it came to the pros, it wasn't such a culture shock and this guy would only three I mean would only three college games. I can't see. Yep. Going in the top three. I don't know but I I've seen weird. I've seen weirder pics. I mean, look what's happened to just like what you said. Think about think about some of these other guys that have just played one year. I mean Jahlil Okafor, you know, he led Duke to the national championship and everybody thought he was going to be the next big, you know big time low post office scoring threat in the NBA and and he's bounced around to three different teams and you know can't even get on the court for the Pelicans and I'm I'm with you. I'm not a big guys. It's really about the the one two and the drive and also, you know what the experience that they have planned against other big guys and I just feel like this the one in done with the one in done theory that they've marked out in the in the NBA now, it's it's really hurt the development of some of these big guys and it's it's really taken a toll. In the overall Talent level that we have in the NBA in my opinion because nobody stays in college for more than a year anymore. You know, I'm going to I meant throw this one answer. They're saying that those were looking at somebody out of Israel Danny. I don't know if you know this guy or beat. Yeah. Yeah. I did. I did look at him a little bit. He's six nine 215. They actually won the championship in their league over there in the in the Tel Aviv League over there. And he actually he looks pretty polished. I expect him to get drafted pretty high just because of his size being six 9 and also, you know because of the leak that he played in it's one of the better leagues in Israel and the top, you know, one of the top leagues as far as Talent levels go over there. So I feel like he is probably going to be in the top five or six players drafted and you know, he's a little bit of a project but from what I've seen from him which isn't a whole lot off. But I did watch a little bit of tape on him and you know, he's got some skills. He can shoot it. You know, he can rebound. He looks like he's a pretty decent Defender and he's very long with six nine and he's got long arms. He's got that NBA body. So I expect somebody to take a chance on him pretty early. They said in the the report. I'm going to compare him to Gallinari in a weakness is the only thing I'd be worried about cuz he's going to be playing a small forward they call them an average athlete with no real speed but he says they eat the state overcome that was smart. So, you know, maybe as a bonus type player there someone who smart enough where you don't have to be the great athlete, but will that hurt him defensively wage? Um, you happen to get out there and and and Beyond a perimeter defense, I don't know but it looks like it's a mostly positive scouting reports. So yeah. Yep. I mean, they need that in Chicago. They need to get somebody out there. I mean go with their young backcourt to give them some kind of a a presence of front not a bad choice Thursday. Yeah, and I'm interested to see this this kid out of date and I was so impressed with what he did last year playing for. Yeah, out of Dayton. He's a power forward. He's six nine 2:20. And I mean he kind of came out of nowhere. He was very, you know, he was not very highly recruited coming out of high school and didn't have very many D1 scholarship offers. But this is a kid in my estimation time in he put the work in and he developed his game developed his body and he was dead set on being the college player of the year last year and possibly making a run in the tournament with that date and team and I I like him. I like his game. I feel like he can shoot he needs to develop a little bit more of an outside shot, but he was hitting 18 20-foot jumper. All day long and he was sitting up. He's got a pretty good quick first step and he's a really strong kid so he can get to the rack and I was really impressed with what I saw from last year and I feel like he he did nothing but help his draft stock with what he did a date and I know he was only there for two years but man what a season he had last year. What a what do you think about him taking the second year is always a good thing. I think especially where a big man. So I like that on a Scouting Report. They tell him like a blink gripping but he does suck you go shoot over 40% from the three-point line which Griffin doesn't do. So that's a any he's got the physical capabilities of drifted like you said the desire, it's too bad. We'll never know what would happen with the Dayton Flyers cuz they were built last year for a run in the NCAA tournament. So you got like mm. Yeah, I mean They're projected to hit number 9 going to the Wizards the Wizards definitely need someone to go with Bo cuz who knows if John will ever come back might be a good place for him. But also that's another place to another guy you wish you'd like to see him with some down around him grow it. I don't know if feels enough Talent from The Grow within Georgia, it's Washington. Who else they got in Washington. Well, we're looking somebody. All right. They've got Troy Brown jr. They've got hachimura the kid from gaja. Yeah. That's what yeah, that might be a good but he's kind of the same type of player though. I feel like I feel like we've Washington kind of has a few of those guys kind of the old Nick syndrome. They've kind of got four or five guys like the Troy Brown hachimura. They've got several of the, you know, power forward small forward type guys dead. And you know rather deals kind of their outside threat, but I mean, I I just I have no confidence in John Wall coming back and I feel like you know 2047 is what they finished at and I feel like a lot of that was because you know, the their guard play they have Shabazz Napier now and then they have Gary Payton Gary Payton Jr. You know if Smith is there other point guard I'm not real big on any of those guys. I kind of feel like they need another guard and I'd be more comfortable with them taking somebody that could bring the ball up the court and take a little bit of the pressure off of Beale. Oh, you got a you got a guy that right above them if they think the mix is going to take and that's the Iowa State point guard Halliburton Tyrese. They think how nice it makes are going to grab him first. What do you think about Tyrese? You know, he actually impressed me. He's got good size for an NBA point guard. He's about six-five about 175. He needs to get a little bit of weight on him. But you know, he he played really well out there in the Big Twelve and he's a he's a sophomore. So he played two years of college basketball. So I feel like I mean it's so it's so ridiculous. Now that somebody plays two years in college basketball and we talked about him having a lot of you know, a lot of different years, you know, basically being a seasoned player because they played two years but this is how it works these days with the one-and-done type of feel and you know, a lot of guys don't even go to college for a year. Maybe some of these guys are coming straight out of high school, you know, they're going and playing overseas for a year. Some of these guys are like Mitchell Robinson. They're just taking the year off and training so, you know this guy dead. Big 12 basketball for two years and I feel like Tyreese is one of the Surefire picks in this draft as far as somebody that can at least come in and play right away. I feel like him and this kid from France Killian Hayes. He's another guy. That's a point guard that I've seen some projections where they have him going to suck for IC. Both those guys being, you know, either the second or third point guards picked behind lamelo ball, and I actually like both of those guys better than mellow wage. The worst thing was with Therese. They had Pro comparison was Lonzo ball know anybody I know but that's just looking for some care you you never you never tell you that but they said he does have he's ready to go with the three approach 3 and we want to grow closer to Oak Grove the Pro 3 and and then score with it. So that's the one thing going dead. The thing about our friend from France killing and Hayes on the weaknesses, they compare them to drag outage, but they say home is slow and a below average 3-point shooter. I don't know. I can't do those two things kind of bother me sound like at all. It's like a little water bug. I can pop three as all day. So that kind of confuses me, but it's hard to tell with these these European guys. I mean we've seen you know, the the NBA draft the last eight or nine years. There's been a huge influx of Euro players and some of them have worked out really really well like Luka and like grgich and and those guys but some of them, you know, they kind of get lost in the shuffle. So I think that's kind of rolling the dice on some of those guys just because you haven't had your hands on them and you haven't got to see them a lot but I feel like this draft choice year more than any other year is is really just kind of up in the air. I do not feel like there's a sure-fire home run hitter on this list. I feel like a lot of these guys are Objects, I I was very surprised to see that. You know that North Carolina point guard Cole Anthony. He is kind of his draft stock has dropped a little bit. You know, he was one of the top players coming out of coming out of high school. And you know, I I felt like, you know, he didn't get to play as much we had some injuries at North Carolina this past year and I feel like that may have heard his stock but I feel like he's got some upside and I I feel like he might be a little bit more of a sure-fire pick than maybe some of these other guys that I got listed winding gear thing is that we discussed his last last show was the fact that not having the conference tournament not having any NCAA tournament. I'm not seeing these guys under the bright lights of March Madness kind of harder to gauge them. I mean, yeah. Okay call Anthony when you're playing, you know wake phone number. You played you know the Citadel or you're playing you know, Belmont Abbey. Okay. Yeah, you showed off there. But how do you do in the Duke? Oh, you judge other going to look at it off games. Do you have a good game against soup? If you didn't she's going to take a peg down whereas into play if they played a tournament, you know, maybe he could his stock it Arisen if he had a real good tournament team member how much Kemba Walker when he Led Led Yukon that Championship, you know, Kemba Walker came from being like just took one of the good college players two player of the year in that month of March in between what he did in the Big East tournament and then he continued on through the NCAA so long, you know colie's probably suffered from that is a couple of SEC players. They've ranked very high and I want to roll by you first off Kyra Louis. He's another point guard of, Alabama. Sophomore, what do you think of him? You know, I'm not as high on him. I I thought that he was a good pretty good little point guard. But you know, as far as some of the guys they've had the past few years like I liked Collin Sexton a lot more than him. I think Collin Sextons a little bit more of a scorer than this guy is this guy's a little bit more of a distributor wage. Um, and I I felt like the the team kind of took a step back this year not putting it all on him, but I would have really liked to have seen what he could have done in the SEC tournament or in the NCAA tournament. And I think that that point you made is huge. I mean think about all the players that made a name for themselves on Marantz one of them. I mean, I know he he had some really good games at Murray State but when he was able to go in to the NCAA tournament and and beat some big-name opponents and you know go through a couple of rounds he made himself. Yep. Nationwide name and I do like that guy but I I feel like I like the kid out of I like the kid out of Kentucky a little bit more money at least said Tyrese Maxey. I got to see him play quite a bit. He's a little bit more of a he was a little bit more of a combo guard but he's a really, really good athlete is a little bit undersized din 6-3, but I did I did get to see him grow up a little bit throughout the year and I was more impressed with him towards the end of the season than I was at the beginning and he seemed to be a really really good Defender and also, you know worked on his off a game quite a bit and improved as the season went on so I did like what I saw at a maxi I'm actually though is in Kentucky. This is the problem with Kentucky last year three point shooting. That's the whole did not shoot. Well from Beyond The Arc, so I think that's one thing that might scare people away is the fact that Kenny getting nailed a three point shot. I mean you saw what I did so maybe you know, you got better as it went on or whatever, but I remember reading about Kentucky having problems with their three-point shooting last year and maybe the last couple of years 9th Avenue leads to consistency they used to have so let's see with him another guy from the SEC are investments from Vanderbilt. What do you know about him? Yeah. He was actually a sophomore and he's a small forward. He's about six six to thirteen. I got to see him quite a bit playing over in Nashville and, Georgia. You know, they they had a pretty good team this past year. As far as Talent goes they've got a couple of guys actually in the top 100 but I feel like they feel like they underachieved just considering the the amount of talent. They had I know they've got a new coach there and Vanderbilt with Jerry Stackhouse who is a household name due to his days off Carolina and also his days and the pros he was a really good player for Detroit for for many years there. And so, you know, I like I like this game but I felt like just with the talent level they had there in Vanderbilt. I felt like they underachieved a little bit this past year, but I liked everything I saw from Naismith. Aaron is a kid that'll probably go pretty high off a lot of the a lot of the mock drafts and a lot of the ratings. I've seen I've seen them in the top ten. I've also seen him this one that I just looked at. He was ranked as the 12th overall player. So yep. Like he's got a lot of upside and he's also got a little bit of experience of playing SEC basketball with two years under his belt. So I feel like I feel like he's got a little bit more of an upside then some of these other dudes. All right. And what about Isaac okoro the barber from Auburn? Yeah. Yeah. I was just a freshman last year. So, you know, it's kind of a small sample size but you know, the Pearl is a heck of a coach say what say about him whatever you want, but he is a he's a really good college basketball coach and you know, he's look at the things he's done at all during the past few years. I mean Auburn was not known as a basketball school and when he took over for Coach Blair down there that program was not in a good spot and was one of the worst programs in the SEC and he's really been able to turn it around and one of the reasons is because he's been getting Talent like a coral. He like I said was just a freshman but he's six six. He's 225. He's got an MBA body. He showed flashes of being a pretty decent score and I feel like he's got the game. To to be pretty effective even as a rookie in the NBA. So I think from what I've seen I think he probably will go pretty high and I've got him listed as probably my third or fourth small forward on my list. I want to touch a little bit of a Major League Baseball before we go we got about twenty minutes left, but we used to that time who else you want to touch on Thursday evening next 10 minutes. Give me some comedians. Yeah, there's one there's one guy and I know I know that I I don't want to just sound like a Duke Homer but there is a kid Cassius Stanley who was a freshman and and you know actually came around towards the end of the season. This is another kid that I really would have loved to see playing the tournament because at the end of the year, he was just making plays like you would not believe he's he's another guy. That's a shooting guard. He's about six six about one ninety-five, but he's got some athleticism to him like you would not believe wage. He can jump out of the gym. He actually came in and broke Zions vertical jump wizard right after his eye on had come and taken it and you know posted the highest ever vertical jump and Duke basketball history. This kid came in the next year and beat it. So as far as a a kid that's got a high high ceiling. I really think Cassius Stanley as a kid that could come in and shocked a lot of people. I know you're not big on the players in the pros and I agree with you. There's been some that have that have not impressed and that of really, you know, just bottomed out in the pros, but this kid is one that has the athleticism to really be a really good player in the NBA and I I was home. I was just blown away by what I saw from the end of the season or when the season ended from what I saw at the beginning of the Season. He just kind of looked confused out there towards the beginning of the year and he actually dead Didn't even start and then towards the end of the season. He was one of their go-to players and was hitting shots to win games. So I expect big things out of Cassius Stanley. I know he's been Dead Rising on a lot of these boards and I think that's due to you know, some of the workouts he's had and some of the people seeing the athleticism that he possesses. I feel like he's somebody that that might go a little bit higher than we expected. Another kid that I really got to see up close is your boy. His name's precious wage. Uh, Memphis kind of a funny name, but I got to see him play quite a bit and he is the kid that actually ended up having to shoulder the load washer are black James Wiseman, you know called it quits precious was out there still playing and I was really impressed with him. He was the kind of the the main kaha That that ran the engine of the Memphis team and I feel like he's a pretty good Prospect. He's a power forward. He's about six 9 about 2:25, but he's got a decent shot. He needs to develop a outside game a little bit more. But from what I saw from him in one year. I was pretty impressed overall. Yeah fifteen and ten Hiller right really 16 to 10, 11 rebounds to be rounded up. Not bad not bad at all for him to come here in the scattering where it's some weird name there too. But yeah, I mean it's going to be interesting. I mean they're rating if you go by I love these these mock drafts because you got Tyrese Haliburton going to the news and then you got off you have Cassius Stanley going to the mix. So it's like okay shooting guards and future out of the straps. Okay, if everything goes, well, they got those two guys suck. Actually be really impressed with the Knicks draft if they were actually able to go out and I don't think they will but if they were able to get those two guys, I would be very very impressed and just I know we're up against it here, but it's real quick. I like the second. I like the second round depth a little bit better than the first round depth. To be honest with you looking at this looking at the top one home. There's a few guys here that I wouldn't mind taking a chance on in the second round. One guy that comes to mind is Cassius Winston out of Michigan State this in a kid that did it all at Michigan State. This was his senior year and it was kind of discouraging not to get to see him play in the tournament. But I mean, he did it all at Michigan State of a point guard. He's a little bit undersized at 6 one, but with what he lacks in size he makes up with effort and with character and just with his basketball skills, and I think he could be a real job. Skill for somebody as well as trade Jones the point guard from duke who is tyus Jones is little brother. I actually think he's he's better than tyus. And he got so much better off in his second year. I was really really proud of him for coming back in his second season because he developed his outside shot and he got better at defense. So I think he might be a pretty good Steel in the second round and then somebody that's kind of dropped way way down in this which I couldn't I couldn't believe but that's the the big guy out of Kansas azubuike e, you know at one time he was one of the top rated players coming out of college basketball, you know, a lot of people expected him to leave after his first year. He came back he's had some injury problems. You know, he's got he's he's really, you know been been slowed down. Series but when he's played he's shown that he can he can do it. I mean he's seven feet tall. He's two hundred and seventy pounds. He's a really good shot-blocker and I feel like that's another guy that I think they've got him rated at least at the thing that I'm looking at. Now. They've got him rated as the 64th player, but I feel like if you could get that guy in the second round and you know, make something out of them. I feel like that could be a real value there with a late pick but you know kids is another Windows gay those those primary. Schools those primary NCAA schools where individually, they don't seem to translate as well as the next level. I mean you look at you know, Ben Simmons struggling with you know, you look at you know, the other guys that struggle as they come out of bills sells programs and I don't know I just you know, I guess you can't teach height. You can't teach athletic if you got to go with it. I I just sometimes with basketball. It seems to be that's the one sport where if you've made the right draft and take two players that can come in Thursday either what we had start being off the bench and give you really primary minutes right away. You can get your your team to go and upward Mobility very quickly, but it's hard to find those players. It really is in college does not. I don't know with the fact that some of us assume it's hard to get a real scope on what they're going to do with the next level. So wage. Yeah, well even even the NFL draft is becoming harder and harder to program. But at least you get 3 years of watching those guys. So you got a pretty good job. Would you think of them? Yeah, no doubt. I I feel like you know Ben Simmons. I think he actually went to LSU but he was only there for a year and I you know, he moved around a couple of different high schools. And you know, I feel like his development was a little bit stunted because of that but there's been some decent players come out of Kansas. I mean if you look Paul Peirce is Kansas the Morris twins, I mean the Morris twins aren't you know, the greatest players in the NBA, but they both play on the LA teams and it both proven that they you know can get wage in the NBA. So I don't feel like if you're coming out of Kansas that you're just, you know have no no shots, but he's got some injury history. So, you know who's to say that he's you know, fully. Yep. See, I don't know but he definitely is proven at times that he can be a dominant Force out there and I just feel like with this draft in general. It's just such a crap shoot with these kids that you have that we seen them for a full season even in college and I just feel like it's you know, it's really, you know, taken some chances on them. There's one more kid the kid out of Kentucky Nick Richards. He's a guy that he actually has been there for three years. You wouldn't know it because he's been you know, sometimes playing sometimes not playing but how do you feel like him going back and playing for three years at Kentucky was good for him as he's a guy that you know, he's seven feet tall 611 but he can shoot threes off. He's got a little bit of an outside game and he's a really good shot-blocker too. So, I mean that's another guy. They've got rated like seventy-something and I feel like he might be able to help somebody at least a little bit more than some of them. Got seven minutes left in the game Denver have a two point lead. They were down by 10 bought their way back. It's $94.92 settlement and fourteen seconds left in the game Denver looks like they might be able to push to another night. Who knows maybe that maybe they're saving their coding job. Hang on. Let me go ahead. No, it's like yeah, I can't believe it. I I thought Denver might be done. But you know if they can push this and and win this game, I think it would say a lot for them, you know wage nothing to say they couldn't win the next game enforce a game seven, which would be great to to see a couple of these these series goes seven games. One thing I wanted to touch on we get about five is left of you know, we're met bands but we can't help but get happy when the Yankees fail and it right now but I thought the Yankees should trade him a couple of years ago and my friends told me no, you're crazy. Where you going to find a guy that kind of talent Gary Sanchez this year is just got I mean he had nine hits five of which are home runs so you can say that over 50% of his hits go for home runs, but nine hits 2130. And defensive player. He's so streaky. He's twenty-seven years old. They're going to have to either pay him or get rid of him. And his name is Brian Cashman. This is what I say about broadcast, but he can cover up his mistakes when Yankee money cuz this guy should have probably been going to years ago. I agree and I'm with you. I I think they should have traded them because he actually kind of over performed from what I thought of and I mean he had a couple of you know Seasons there's where he had some decent power numbers, but overall he's just not that great of a hitter and we're seeing it in full force right now. He's batting 132. He's only got 9,000 eyes and like you said, he's not a very good defensive catcher. So what what is it that you're getting out of this guy right now, you're paying him millions of dollars and he can throw anybody out stealing second base. He can't get on base and he can't drive anybody in I think I think you gotta take you gotta take your medicine here and move on Thursday. You You had the worst thing about him is when you look at him against other catchers. Okay, if you go around a league, there's no Johnny bench's anymore. There's no sermon months since there's no real good catchers around good hitting catchers especially so if he goes to arbitration, he's going to have a hell of an argument saying well, I hit more home runs than any other catcher, you know, I drive it more than eating the snow and all his totals are substandard. So I mean you're setting yourself up to have to pay a substandard player big bucks. So it's like, you know, I know Catherine doesn't care. I know the to print money but you know, this guy does Log Jam your your your roster, you know what I mean? You're not you're not be better off with two mediocre catchers sharing the load back their batting nights or better yet biting the ends at nineteen year order anything your order that are good defense players then have this month. Guide did Brad Banning 7 and you gotta keep playing them cuz you're Gary Sanchez and you know, he's going to get hot eventually and he's going to have that one week where he's going to hit five home runs off want to set new lab 10:00 and no other catcher in Major League Baseball has 10 home runs. So in some ways, I love to see him screwing entities cuz it's always fun to the Yankees get screwed by the other when you look at it see like frustrating to watch this guy just not deserve the type of Windows going to get I just this is where the economics of sports package to get out handle on what's going on just because there's no other catcher better than him. He's still a lag in your lineup. I just think you can just compare him the other catchers home. You got to Bear the other power hitters what you think ya know exactly and and if you're going to compare them to other catchers then compare him defensively and I mean what I really look dead. In The Catcher in today's game just based upon what we've seen the last five or six years is somebody that can kind of control the game and really, you know, kind of command his pictures and calm them down when they get rattled and and you know, call the balls and Strikes and block balls and just do all yeah just do all the little things that that that people there's a lot of people that did not understand the game of baseball don't even notice and those are the things that Gary Sanchez doesn't even think about and certainly doesn't have the capability to do. So, how many guys are we going to pay $100,000 here? We got Gerrit Cole who's making two hundred million. We got Aaron judge who's going to make a hundred million? We got we're paying a hundred million to Giancarlo. I mean, how many guys are underperforming? Are we going to pay that much surely? They'll let Gary Sanchez go right? I mean collaboratory as you guys think he's got to think about how she's got a dog. About it a couple years away, but he still he still a hundred million dollar player in in in the thing about Sanchez. They get you in a listen to a guy talked about him on the radio last night who covers the fifties and he goes he's lazy, you know, yeah coaches go and say I want you out on a field in 5 minutes to do these drills. He doesn't show for ten minutes doesn't over 15 minutes to coaches are waiting for him to work with him. It doesn't show up. He doesn't pay attention to it and it's in the other thing and maybe it should right or wrong other things. He still doesn't look for a way to master the ability to give an interview where your stance can listen to a doctor and after a while. I understand I'm not I don't care about English first. I am trying to get on that bandwagon or anything but shown to your fans that they can listen to you not through an interpreter, you know, you've been around for five six years you give me you can get manageable enough English. To give an interview so you get your fans can hear you talk instead of going through an interpreter and saying if you really saying that or do you say it's totally different? You know, I mean, it's not like they're asking them real in-depth questions. And I mean it's not like he has to write a term paper or something. It's just you know, how did you how did you feel like you played today Gary? You know, I I believe me after being a reporter who created the locker rooms and ran into you know how to get sidelined interviews you have about three minutes to get one line from using your article. So it's like, you know, you don't you're not going to sit there and Grill them you're going to sit there and go. Okay got it. That's a good sentence. See you later. It just goes what I want to say. Thank you. That's all you need a moment. You guys like not even trying to give you that. So it just drives me nuts, you know, it's crazy. So anyways, it's about time we wrap up tonight. We had a great place very the ad that weeded. It was fun when we were talking about the NBA on Friday night. We are scheduled to have Jack Driscoll, you know more about drag Jack's so give us a little scattered. Yep. Project for everybody that will be tuning in on Friday. Yeah, Driscoll is a just very syrebral offensive lineman. He actually played started his career at UMass. Graduate was a played his own shirt freshman year and his Redshirt sophomore year started and was all-conference his Redshirt sophomore year and then he graduated as a redshirt sophomore. He graduated from UMass went to Auburn as a grad transfer and ended up starting 45 games straight at right tackle for the Auburn Tigers. So just had an amazing college career and then was drafted in the fourth round by the Philadelphia Eagles and actually is slated to possibly start at right tackle and is competing right now to possibly be a starter for the Eagles so I can't wait to to hear from Jack. Yeah. We're looking forward to be coming from Connecticut. So we're very proud of him here and I think with five 3:12 and He's supposed to be in with us on 8:00 on Friday night looking so forward to talk to him and we were back then to give you that and the rest is sports. Hey great great job time tonight, mate, and we will be in touch over the next couple days. Happy birthday to your wife on Thursday. I would sing but that would probably ruin it for so I'll just wish you a happy birthday. Thank you for a nice dinner on Thursday night. We will be back on Friday to bring you guys all about the World Sports at Connecticut Sports guys is Joe may say goodbye to the people. Goodbye, people have a great night. Everybody. We will be back on Friday. Thank you for tuning in. Go Luca. 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2021 NBA Mock Draft Podcast Version 1.1 with Matt Pennie

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2021 NBA Mock Draft Podcast Version 1.1 with Matt Pennie

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I had a friend asked me how much I paid you for last intro we weren't back and forth. You mentioned Tom Brady. Can you throw Julian Edelman in there to Julian Edelman manage? It is funny. Like when I was living in Los Angeles you'd see like Billboards of Julian Edelman like modeling for random things when you would go by the Beverly Center in Hollywood. So I don't know if it's ready to go there with you Penny know you did last time throughout their I'm not ready to go. There. I'm just honored to be mentioned in the same breath albeit way off base. Are you are you still in on Tom Brady or are you out now that he plays for Tampa? That's a very sore subject. I am it's like watching an old friend from afar off for school. You can't be best friends anymore. It's hard not to be you cheer for the good ones and then the bad games you say like see that's the way it played out double-check know he was doing But I can't quote him best football player of all time brought up a lot of happiness in New England campus close the door. All right Penny today on the show. We are going to do a first look at a 2021 NBA mock draft now. This is this is a tough one right now. This is your this is your idea for the record though watching the games last night. Like hey pod work tomorrow Yes. Sounds great. What are you going to do? 20 21 mokja said, okay, let's do it fire it up. So we're two weeks into the season and we've seen a lot like this is the first time we've seen a lot of these kids in eight months. So I think it's worth am somewhat updating what we've seen now, I think it's worth putting a lot of this into context before we do it, right? The first thing that I want to say is that this season I'm glad it's happening because it's a really good evaluation tool for us like we can get into the ethical dilemmas of whether or not it should be happening because of the covid-19 demek that is Raging across the United States right now Coach K got into that a little bit bought last night after Duke's Painis loss to, Illinois. but From an evaluation standpoint is been very helpful to see where these kids are now. Where are you in terms of what we've seen so far and what it means because part of me wants to just like throw out a lot of what we've seen from the Fresh life so far because especially for a team like for instance Kentucky who you and I have talked about at length. It's an abbreviated preseason with a team that has literally own New pieces in its rotation. How do we go about evaluating them compared to Someone Like A Kiante Johnson and Trey man who have been in Florida for multiple years. There's definitely a smaller sample size. But the the season is a whole is going to be a smaller sample size too, especially with games that we thought would happen in an abbreviated season getting canceled. I mean, we do have a good one tonight Michigan State Virginia with a battle of the houses for ultimate house or Supremacy and that was postponed or cancelled and delayed. So we kind of have to watch what we have. I like having some game you gotta take all the stuff with the green assault because even some of the guys will mention here have played four games five games and two of them kind of like throw out the window immediately mean there's guys in water who like the first page him just one great. You have a an Arkansas Team a guy like Moises Moody who I'd like a lot. I mean they scored a hundred forty-two points against Mississippi Valley State like, I don't know. I don't think that's a normal evaluation tool but It helps kind of framed the bigger picture of we've seen what the higher-end guys have done on the Grass Roots level. Now you get to see what they've done here in college, maybe for lunch a little bit of USA be so it's not the perfect picture but it's certainly better than nothing. If the season didn't happen Are we more in a situation kind of like last year where there's so much time off between the end of the canceled season in the NBA draft that at the end we're just kind of driving ourselves crazy. Like Jalen Suggs has been a different player than than I anticipated I'm seeing so I'm thankful be able to see him off the team like Gonzaga. I'm thankful to be able to see Katie Cunningham with Oklahoma State without having to other top ten twelve fifteen picks in the draft as well. So, thankful that it's here. Not perfect not an exact science, but it's it's better than no games at all. Yeah, and I'm glad that you brought up to very positive players that job Of I think raised there. I don't want to say stock but like raised their estimation in the minds of Scouts so far and Kate and Jalen Suggs. It's hard for me to figure out what to do with guys like BJ Boston and you know, even Keon Johnson, I think only looked okay in Tennessee's opener yesterday. I was waiting for that one cuz I cuz I think you had a lot V. Yeah and and even more turnovers and points last night. I mean that's going to happen. But he had this he was MVP of October. Well, let's let's wait to talk about how many cat that's saying like the the hype was there. It was kind of warranted. He's got one game. So it's not the full full thing yet. Right and like what do we do with like Trey man who is like a pop-up guy that looks you know, post-hype sleeper first-round pick guy. What do we do with Kai Jones? What do we do offer guys have struggled like Caleb love is not been very good for North Carolina so far, so it's It's difficult to try to determine when to jump ship with a lot of these younger freshman given that it's just really early and it's really hard season for these guys to get ingratiated into their rosters. I did drop some of these guys like BJ Boston and Caleb love and you know a few others Greg Brown has struggled so far south Texas like he's not as high as he was on my initial board. Like it's just difficult for me to figure out how to evaluate what we've seen in comparison to change the past cycles of freshmen that oh, yeah, they've kind of struggled early and then they figure it out or oh they've kind of struggled early and it was a harbinger of like disaster over the course of their freshman season. And we still have time it's still it's still December. I mean knock on wood. Hopefully we play through March. We have a lot more games to evaluate. We don't have to just be back to a corner of a four or five games off probably two or three of them against some level of inferior competition with the Champions classic the it's kind of big ten-acc thing like with standing some better teams have played but there's also been the buy games are still happening to some level too in part of why I wanted to do this now is that look like a couple of good games tonight like Florida State Indiana is interesting for the Scottie Barnes versus trayce Jackson Davis looked that will get you know over the weekend wage to get later this week. I'm sorry, we're going to get Arizona State and San Diego State where we get Marcus Bagley against Matt Mitchell plus we get Josh Christopher in that game, you know, Iowa has another match up against High major team. In Iowa State Florida Florida state is on Saturday if I remember correctly. So there are there are some interesting Prospect games that are coming but you know, it's not going to be as like nightly as it's been for the first two weeks where every single night there is a fascinating prospect game that you can really like dig your teeth into like off last Monday. There was nothing this next Monday like the best game is Rutgers, Maryland and you know not to sit on either of those two teams. I think they're both actually really good college basketball teams, but you know, neither of those two teams really have anyone that is likely to be picked in the top forty given that it seems Aaron Wiggins is not really fixed his jumper thought maybe Ron Harper continues to be the guy that he's been so far for Rutgers and you know forces his way into that conversation, but right now like I feel like it's a good time to reset before we start to get into conference play and also Sunday, we have Texas Baylor and Stanford USC. Like that's that's a really good one Sunday night if it's not a million games a night. I'm okay with that. To I mean usually with awesome with you had three games in a row, but then I also had sneaky Tennessee who hadn't seen yet play Colorado. We've seen Duke we saw Illinois, but she get a a different look a different feel you don't have a million Scouts in in GM's there. So we're all we're all kind of watching it under the same lens right now, which is very different. Yeah. Let's just get into this. Let's do it cuz we're going to talk a bunch about prospects as it is. So one thing here before we get into it how spot-on was my officiating rant God? Oh God. I didn't know last March. I had I had a cute up for this would be very quick. So I'm watching the games last night. I'm trying to tweet just like a little bit more. So there's some like depth to me coming off the show and not just like some idiot friend who like making jokes with so I sent out to very like surface-level tweets one about Luka Garza want abused pawns from Tennessee. It's like the most interesting job. The world so I send out the tweets watching the game and watch the last one Duke Illinois is wrapping up. You know, I pick up my phone. I had 25 notifications. I'm like, well, this is crazy like some juice to see group must have got this and retweeting it like going to get a million followers know it's you tagging me in a tweet about refs. So I'm just scrolling like refs refs refs refs. So I just curious if like when you were younger did someone like break into your house. We're going to like a referee shirt or something like who hurt you to get you here with the refs. Well like, And I texted you this. Talking about how terrible the officiating has been and has been for years now for years. Now. He's the most universally agreed-upon thing within college basketball everyone within the college basketball ecosystem understands and knows that the officiating has been fucking garbage for years. I don't think people leave games at any level whether it's used to Grassroots High School College Pro and say those refs nailed it it was their day today. They got everything right but The Leopard with a guy calls a great game. Somebody's got to be all going to have about a blown block charge call. It just it's going to happen. Yeah, I get that but the level to which NBA off officiating is more consistent and is like better in terms of what it rewards than college basketball is staggering like if I go from log, NBA games to watch in college games and I swear to god dude. I think that the talent disparity in the officiating is just as equal to the talent disparity in regard to the actual tap on the clock and that is an enormous difference. Yeah. I know. I know it's it's just inconceivable to me that we can't teach officials on the college level wage to not reward these fucking unathletic players. You just stand there and hold their nuts so that they take these charge calls instead of actually trying to defend the one on Joey Baker last night where I would assume you drove into Joey Baker and barely contacted him and Joey Baker went down like he was the Leaning Tower of Pisa like God, why would you want to reward that is a basketball Community? I guess that's what it comes to for me. Why why are we rewarding that because he's not even making an attempt. The defend he's not even making an attempt to establish position first in order to make a play on the ball handler or make a play on what was happening around him. He's just standing there and not actually trying to play defense and getting rewarded for it. It's really just unacceptable to me in every regard wage and we need to do better as a basketball Community. We need to do better as a college basketball community in calling out that bullshit. And then by the way, it wasn't even the worst call within that 30 minutes long stretch because in the Syracuse Rutgers game Quincy gerrior flopped his ass off and got rewarded with a technical foul call that very easily could have been overturned or wage flagrant. Foul call. I'm sorry, the very easily could have been overturned because they went to the monitor to look at it. They still didn't overturn it if we can't even get the calls right whenever you're going to the monitor to look at it off. What are we doing here? What we're doing here is you are solidifying your places like deep poster the face like the ref headquarter dartboard like throughout the world that you're you're really establishing yourself is the number one Village great. I hope like we start to round together around me as a community and that the NCAA starts to put better resources into officiating because again, I don't blame the individual officials. This is how they're told to officiate. I blame the NCAA for continuing to officiate it this way and off for not putting the resources necessary into creating better livelihoods for these officials who travel around like crazy or overworked and are given instructions to reward on athletic plays like with Joey Baker did last night my New Year's resolution for you is you find peace unless the the officiating improves and we can get to a better place in 20. 21 for everyone right now. It's not great. It's bad man. Okay, let's let's take a quick break and then we'll get into the mock draft after my voice finally drops and doesn't crack anymore. 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And on your schedule Neutrogena Hydro Boost hyaluronic acid serum stay doing soft and drenched in hydration. Learn more at neutrogena.com. Okay, and we're back penny. I am going to be very kind and give you the number one overall pick in our updated 2021 mock draft choice to even the first pic cuz you always complain about pics. I had my Sharpie out. So if you hear that in the in the background, that's just the Sharpie. It's not me doing something weird first pic still the first pick for me. It's for the first big for a while off going with Cade Cunningham, Oklahoma State guard six-foot-eight freshman. I don't know what else there really is to say about kid that we haven't covered the last three or four podcasts. He's shown the full package size house feel has leadership is a little bit of question on the first step burst, which we can argue about but he'll be really good with other NBA players around him to ease the offensive load. And now what's offensive schemes that are thrown at him for me. There's no really debate on him being the first overall pick and and he's really even showing more growth in his game hitting deep threes off the bounce step back wage. If the three spent a small sample size sample size is the word we're going to repeat a million times. I am anyway this pod it's a sample size expands and he can keep shooting the way he is like it's a job as an operator before but you can write it in in marker long before the actual draft. Did you watch any of the game last night against Oral Roberts yet? I just like kind of caught a little bit of it. Just just have your say was the the triple header of Doom so I did not see the game yet. So, yeah dropped like 11 points in the final minute in order to ice that thing away for Oklahoma State. It was just absolutely glorious made another quick little jumper with like five minutes left. He got fouled like The Possession before that like they were in a dogfight because the rest of the Oklahoma State team is just not very good around him. Like we can just call it what it is and K just totally took over late in a way that you hope to see a future star player. Do it was it was everything that you could have possibly asked for from K. in a late game setting Yeah, and that's not really but enough but I I as a slight critique I'd say last time he's unselfish to a fault. You want him to take over a little bit more. So if he's getting their own now game, I don't know. What is Ram four or five. It's a great sign that this thing is going to continue to grow and Blossom. Okay, so I'm up that's easy. Yeah, Europe these ones done. The easy one is done. That's a tough one is now at our feet and I'm going to go Evan Mobley at number two. I think that that's probably like a little bit of a surprise to people maybe. But I don't know he's he's been really good. I'm not I'm not surprised. I had him Slaughter as to as well. I'm on on the run the wave every single thing that Evan Mobley has done so far this year has been off of to me. He is ambidextrous in terms of his way that he can handle the ball with both his right and left hand. He is indeed an Ambi Turner to quote Ben Stiller in Zoolander. He is averaging 17.6 points and nine rebounds with three blocks and two assists a game. He can really pass out of the post. His foot work is exceptional. He is still figuring it out defensively in terms of his rotations, like a lot of these guys are at the end of the day, right? None of these guys are perfect right now in terms of their defense rotations, but what she is doing is still finding a way to make an impact. Like there will be full possessions where he goes like twenty five seconds where he's just lost on the court and doesn't know where to be found on someone drives and he just like completely erases the shot and makes an enormous impact defensively. He's shooting 60% from the field despite the fact that USC has not played like a disaster schedule. It hasn't been Incredible or anything, but it's been an okay schedule so far. He's shooting the ball from distance. He's taken two 3-pointers the game and make them at 44% off sample. I'm aware but he's done really well. They're so far. He's really exceptional in dribble handoff sand in ball screen settings. You can short roll them. You can roll them all the way to the basket wage. They can pop him. He can be a defensive stopper there have been some questions about his motor and his willingness to like play through when times get Difficult, but so far. I think he's really done a good job of kind of dispelling those a little bit like he is at times gotten angry whenever things don't go his way necessarily and kind of take it over and dominated a little bit like UC Irvine last night. He goes for twenty two and eleven against a team that tends to have a really good interior like Russ Turner and UC Irvine, they build their team from the inside out and try to make it tough for opposing Biggs to do anything. And I mean, I'm not completely mop the floor with them. He mopped the floor with BYU. I thought he was by far the best player in the UConn game despite the fact that James book Night started that game as well as he possibly could have bought everything I've seen from Evan Mobley makes me believe that this is an All-Star super high level big man. I think he is fairly far ahead of where Jake Wiseman was at this point last year. Yeah, you basically read all my prep bullet points for him and it's against my nature kind of just to take Biggs this high but with all the uncertainty of the other players in kind of this grouping right now, it does make sense to me. The three-point stuff is intriguing. I think he's only taken nine, but he's had four of them. So if he makes that a threat in addition to the short roles the pick-and-roll Box the pick-and-rolls all the way to the rim the face up stuff base trim running to he'll be even more of a threat than we thought he would be the motor stuff and the engagement level was down kind of an a call out a little bit. He seems engaged he seems engaged on the glass. He still needs to get he looked bigger physically, but he's held his ground enough on the name is obviously for nine a game. So he's played out even better than what I had anticipated or projected for him this season. So for for number two, that's that's a very wage. Yeah, I could not agree more with you Matt. You're up at number three so number three I just saw the safest bit. I'm not finished the wildest but as we're on here now, you're getting more tweets about the G League bubble and you have a handful teams opting out opting in. I don't know the G league night schedule regardless based on what I'm seeing the Grass Roots level third overall. I'm going to go with Jalen green 6-5 guard playing on that geely ignite team this year elite-level athletes with size width length has real potential as a defender office getting better if they're shooting getting better coming out to control such a great first step keeps minnows hip when he's driving and then he can really elevating traffic. He doesn't bail out he tries to dunk from guys. My kind of question. I'm curious to what his stock would be right now if he played at say Memphis or UCLA or Kentucky just because he's a guy who will talk about soon. Jalen Suggs has used a the college basketball platform to really announced himself as a solid top-five pick not that Jalen green is slipping by any means but you just don't have the tape. You don't have the game to have the competition to really use that as a barometer against other guys in the draft right now. Yeah, and I think that's a hundred percent. Right? We just haven't seen Jalen green yet. It's really interesting to me to try and figure out what he would have looked like in college. I would imagine that we would see some pretty real life and see from him just because that's been his brand whenever he's been given the ball and just told you have free reign to go score. I also think he'd be averaging twenty points a night at Memphis right off. If you would have gone to Memphis like it's yeah, he's he probably would have been averaging twenty points a night while shooting 40% from 3 and 32% or 40% from the field and 32% from 3.5 games or whatever and that would be fine. I think we'd be in a space where it's like, okay, he'll figure out the efficiency stuff throughout the course of the year and the volume and the shock creation ability that we've seen so far his has been exceptional and Elite. So yeah, I think the jail and green is a totally reasonable picture. I had him at 3 for like wow. I had him with Jalen Suggs. He will be my picket number for will just go there right good segue Jalen Suggs at number for for me. And by the way, we should mention in the middle of this that like we're doing this team eggnog seems like we're not like projecting these guys to any teams right now. So what I like about Jalen Suggs and why I think he has entered the conversation of being in that same tier with jail and green is the level of Polish as a finisher and shooter. I think it's a little bit ahead of where Jacob green is. The last time that we saw Jalen green at least right which was eight months ago and it's very possible that he's taking a leap and his improved this but just jail and greens dexterity around the basket his ability to change his ability to change the angle and rim protectors its ability to just make life very difficult with his touch shots around the basket for guys to contest it's wage. An exceptionally impressive his passing ability was even a little it's even a little bit better than what I thought. It was. I knew that he could really operate in pick-and-roll and I knew that he was good at repeating the second third level of Defense has Four Freshmen like for an incoming freshman, but I didn't think that it would look like just straight-up good for a college basketball player. He is already an exceedingly high level passer and look part of this is like gonzaga's offense naturally inflates point guard assists coming out of ball screens. She cuz there are just easier reads because Mark view in that staff are fucking incredible at that like coaching basketball, right? They're so good at getting point guards ready to play and putting a position to where they can make easier reads as opposed to more complicated reads. Like, you know, Jalen Suggs can find that little dump off entry pass into true Timmy. Basically whenever he wants he can find that same side kick out when m once so I don't mean that though to denigrate what Suggs is doing. It's just worth contextualizing that Jalen Suggs is surrounded by Corey kispert jury to me. Joe Elie Andrew nem hard whom or bolo is a potential draft pick at some point. There are some people who think Anton Watson is a draft pick at some point. I don't know that I'm quite they're off but he is surrounded by talent that not only fits what he is. Capable of on the court but is also just really good and is experienced in his played college basketball before so I think he's in a place where his life is a bit easier off and say BJ Boston's or say Terrence Clark's or jail and Johnson's or key on Johnson's even having said that that's what he's done. So far has been exceptionally impressive from a skill perspective as a shooter as a passer as a finisher and as an overall athlete playing out of pick-and-roll to where it's hard for me to get him out of the top five right now. I don't think that you can Nor should you and just my my quick hitters to add to that for me. He's the highest stock rise with the season because I thought he'd be a lottery pick. I didn't think we'd be talking about him in the top four top-five conversation off who's averaged thirteen 6 and 5 with really one game of I'd say half stats due to injury and even when he came back, he wasn't really himself definitely better to advertise in pick-and-roll, especially with change of the wrong direction burst and you hit on it. He's just been so unselfish and seamlessly fit into this Gonzaga culture and you know Neil wrote about it on the athletic I was today or yesterday, but just like they recruit their board is like seven guys, they're not wanting schools. It's going to have offers out to everybody and they said that almost hugs had to convince them about like, okay. Well like how long do you fit here? And it worked out obviously for both of them because the weapons he has at his disposal if you will for lack of a better term have made him look even better in elevated wage. Personal stock up to as high as top five some places. Yeah, I would encourage more recruits. I mean, like look I probably shouldn't do this necessarily but like she guard recruits should really strongly look at going to Gonzaga. I think oh, I love to see yourself only post this. Okay. The only reason that I say this, I'm not saying that France. Yeah. Yeah. The reason that I say that is because they get put into position to succeed. There are other schemes in college basketball that do not put you in pick-and-roll as often is gonzaga's does that do not surround you with like sophomores juniors seniors guys that have been there for a while that are talented. It makes sense for me for more Garth to consider Gonzaga. Like I don't really care about like programs at the college basketball level. I care about kids putting themselves into the best position to succeed and look down. To like has a track record of helping guys at the end of the day. I'm sorry and he kind of have to hope the Gonzaga considers you as well. They're not just going to yeah recruit everybody and the pick-and-roll to its. Yes, they set up a pick-and-roll with with great Shooters on the wings then scaled Biggs that can bail you out. If you get trapped and hit there, they'll hit back down low and they can swing it out and reverse it and there's times when suck ass bass line gets trapped and he kind of like throws that hammer action pass opposite. Oh, yeah. Here's a 47% three-point shooter, right? So helps ya know. Let's move on your up at number five digit number five. Let's say weird. Let's say G League bubble probably little higher than you but I'm going to go with Jonathan Flamingo from the GD night forward six-foot-eight would be a freshman or not really wage is still this mystery Manish because of injuries the last High School season because of the lack of of footage. Let's hope that the street like bubble thing happens so we can watch a more just as strong. big-bodied waiting at six foot eight can guard multiple spots swore multiple ways I'm interested to see how he's kind of used to like if it is a used this kind of like this hybrid 3-4 is a used kind of like an appoint for Dish role sometimes maybe some of the shoulders the elbows he was a monster in high school especially in transition when healthy and he'd look back to the bubble bath look to the bubble with the way you want these kind of like interchangeable 6768 guys he fits that mold of the modern NBA player okay I don't really have anything to add to come and go to be honest because we haven't seen them like I thought you had this big thing like okay there's way too high but next know I have him in 5 I would imagine that this is probably going to be the Box pick that we probably agree on the rest of the okay in terms of like like I think that those five right now are the guys that I feel best about having in the top Five Fingaz just been too proud to have it lower levels and has too much of a burgeoning three point shot too much of a potential to be a shot-creator as like a six foot seven six foot eight like wing-forward type that way it's hard to have them outside of the top five given we've seen so far and given that we haven't seen him in college basketball right a hundred percent yeah so okay number six. This this is what I'm going to get text about I still have Keon Johnson at number six oh okay let's do it and he did not look good great yesterday wage I would say I think that the turnover numbers overstate how bad he was there were two that were not particularly his fault wage, but there were also two that were like just atrocious they put him at lead guard Midway through the second half and he was awesome for like a a three or four minutes stretch. He was so valuable. So useful they had their best ball movement of the half over the course of that stretched. They were really actually moving on offense for the first time in that game against Colorado and it was in part because he was driving and he was Finding like a little, you know, dump off passes in the middle of the lane for John Fulkerson, or maybe it's a necessity. I can't remember he was swinging the ball around the perimeter and getting off. Colorado moving within that zone he was really making it harder for Colorado to defend them and then he comes down. For two straight possessions and throws to unequivocally disastrously lazy passes that are completely unacceptable and requirements buldum and didn't play in the rest of the game. So the offense is going to be a mixed bag. He had a really nice like two gerbil pull up on the left side, like going toward his left that I thought was interesting because agustine wage or Tennessee's defense was considerably better when he was on the court. They gave up 58 points per 100 possessions when he was on the court in that game. He completely obliterated McKinley right on defense like McKinley right is a what he'll be like a Pac-12 Player of the Year Contender, right Abby the max. Yeah. Yeah, like completely obliterated him could not McKinley right could not do a single thing against Keon Johnson if you add elite-level defense, too. High-level driving hopefully high-level shop making I'm still intrigued with what we see from Keon Johnson, but there are there are concerns after the first game is handle is too long. I you know doesn't doesn't quite have as much shiftiness as what I was hoping. He was playing his own and there are reasons to not like Get Hyper concerned I think but nonetheless Keon Johnson raised him alarm bells to where it's worth dropping in one spot for me. But God this is this is where the concerns start for me cuz I don't have a great feel for the rest of how this Lottery should shake out. I love that you're doubling down. I really do new rattled off more stats for a guy that had four points. If I turned worse than 13 minutes impossible. You're turning into like a Grassroots. Dad the coach pulled them. But here's this all jokes aside. I am John Johnson's Grassroots tab. That is correct here the program director area lucky we talked about it correctly his stock really took off that usab minicamp. He was MVP. He's an energy guy upside quick-twitch. He didn't catch a lot of in that game. He made a few nice defensive plays. He's got a carriage that winter tag with them. He has to put all the pieces together and that Tennessee team needs them but like a Gonzaga, they're also this veteran group that like it's a nice addition, but they're still a rock on without them to he'll definitely a big part of it. I I would say I think that they need them again. I'm not I'm not dismissing. I'm just saying like their dog. they rolled out there and then Springer only played nine minutes he played 13 minutes like they've they've got a good little bench going to I'm not as I'm not as high I'm not mad at you like to stick with your guy just a little higher than I have right now I think I like twelve as like a hedge I totally get that like based off of what we saw in game one you are closer to where I should be then I frankly am I think that they're going to need him because I did not really liked what I saw from Josiah Jordan James Bailey has apparently been very very good in practice for them from what I gather I didn't love what I saw from him yesterday, but we'll see kind of how that goes and plays out over the course of the year. He was really valuable and defense more as more than as a shot make sure but he still has like that funky hitch to his shot. Victor Bailey is a guy to apparently keep an eye on given just kind of what my understanding is of how Tennessee is looked and practiced. Yeah, very good. Athlete known for that. Yeah. Hold on. I probably don't I piled on you for your pic. It's time for you to pile on me because this is kind of like my age too. So sixth overall. I'm going to jail and Jose from duke. Yeah, you're quite a bit higher than I am, but I get it. Yeah, that's fine. So I'm drafting here as a whole piece on house. What's the difference between the cop and state Jaylen Johnson in the the Illinois game? Jaylen Johnson do kids used him at the 3 to 4 in the 5 to varying levels of success but shows he's able to do it still a creative playmaker solid enough driver the jumper death concerned definitely a weakness without piling on again. The dupe guards haven't really done many favors for making the game easier on them either. It comes off that he's trying to break us and do too much every time he touches the ball and despite all this. He's still averaging 12 and 8 only two is just a game which is deceiving because there are kind of similar to Jake Cunningham things where the guy just simply aren't making shots aren't finishing layups. Yeah, I don't doubt the passing at all. Yeah, and look I really like Jalen Johnson on the Grassroots circuit. I think he figures it out. I don't know if Duke necessarily a hundred percent figures it out. But he's going to be better off just done then he is right now how concerned are you that if you take out the Coppin State game jail and Johnson is averaging nine points 4 1/2 rebounds 0.7 assists and to turn first you just said even care about the assist numbers. Look it's concerning but we we let off the show with this saying like okay, there's this for games. We don't know what to do. This is I guess what I'm doing here. I I just like his his versatility. Yeah. He's never going to average 19 rebounds a game but it's it's worth it's worth a little bit of a gamble. You said it gets a little bit off you from here down to so right about 30 for us. Yeah the reason so I Jalen it fourteen. Okay, so he actually has like raised himself like a little bit in my home. Nation from where I had them in the preseason, right? The Possession that caused the most concern for me was that he got Kofi cockburn on an island at the top of the key and could not be Kofi cockburn in life. So going towards the basket that was that was an eye-opener for me in a way that I am going to struggle to get out of my head. It's burned burning new memory. Yeah now and like I talked to multiple Scouts about that yesterday and it's burned in their memory too. So suck more inside track than me, but that that's basically a switch you reached on on Keanu Reeves on Jalen's. Yeah. We're a few were even okay. Yeah. Oh God awful. Oh, I'm between two guys and neither of them have been particularly great and they both went to the same high school track. Yeah. I'm going to go BJ Boston here. Okay, I like it. I don't feel great about it, but don't don't feel great about it at all to be frank. I just pin bad. He has been like borderline. He actually it's not borderline. Like I think he's been a net negative for Kentucky at a lot of points this year. I'm trying to pull up the numbers now. I mean it it's it's been ugly so far for BJ boss, at least he was hitting 3s against Georgia Tech we crushed him for that. He was 3473 in a loss to Georgia Tech. Yeah, so 45.93 shooting percentage 17.4 turnover rate versus a 7.1 assist rate month. Does not offend like where you just say that like us does not defend or pass does not the fender pass which is a problem because he actually has been fine when he's been inside the armor like he's twenty-four forty from two point range and gets the line like a not-insignificant amount. Other than that, Georgia Tech game, right? Like he has really positive extension finishing ability. The problem is that on this Kentucky team. She doesn't get that opportunity because everyone just collapses the lane against them and it makes it really really hard for his particular style of game to succeed. He is best as kind of an advantage score who can find those little creases in his really Shifty at finding those little creases once he attacks aggressively and getting to the rim and scoring or getting into the mid-range game and have like passing up a little floater. I am not ringing. I'm not ringing the alarm yet on them. But like my hands on the buzzer like I'm I'm concerned. Yeah, the only reason I went to the alarm is like that poem. She has not been ineffective player at all this year because the passing and defense has been exceptionally bad. He's been really really bad at those two particular aspects and if he could do either of those things it means that she has to score and he has not been able to score. Yeah. I mean, they're still taking them. I think we're like eight so it's not like a huge slot item 10th. We just haven't seen a sea urchin and DJ Boston yet where you slicing defenses and step backs and finishing at The Rim. He still no type play his body's going to fill out he started with this shooting slump. I'll be returned the corner again a little bit better now higher than than I have on but I get it. Yeah, not that much higher cuz I'm taking him here at 8 and you have a 10 like 10. Yep. I think this is the range for PJ Boston right now. I hope he figures it out. Like I'm at U. Yeah, and I think Kentucky will like I think part of this is the Kentucky still his kind of us and hopefully when we see them coming up on Saturday against Notre Dame and then the next Saturday against UCLA and then the next Saturday against Louisville. They only have two games in two weeks so they can actually walk like start to figure out how to get fucking better at basketball. Hopefully the next time you see them play a BJ Boston Christmas thing to yeah, so look good. I'm excited to see how this goes here for Kentucky going forward, but this will not be the last time we talked about Kentucky on this podcast. So I will give you the floor Penny to take number nine. Back to Sierra Canyon High School. I'm going to take make sure I'm not wrong key or like fantasy football, you know, just slide too far down you take like the fifth running back and slightly. Okay. I'm good. I'm taking Zaire Williams from Stanford off six foot seven freshmen unfinished product. But I'm I'm buying him long-term. He's six foot seven. 6:11 wingspan Bill Walton called him George Gervin, like very good pull up game smart smart player making reads knows how to play pick-and-roll with either hand. He's still a kid to like Brian Hamilton wrote an article on the athletic. I don't know if this is the whole sort of the knee brace. But like he said that he was riding his bike on campus to class cuz he was cold and he hit a pothole and he had one hand his pocket and one on the handlebars and like fell over like I think a lot of times we forget these kids like eighteen years old. It's still getting into bike accidents on campus and we're like, yeah, it's saying he's going to make her his not his games gotta make another leap when he gets back to full strength and literally has his legs back under him. He showed some good stretches just has to put it all together you hope that some added weight makes them score a little bit better at The Rim, but I'm not giving up on it yet to get him at this pic. I'd be pretty happy. Yeah, I agree. Like we've been saying for a while that we didn't think he was totally healthy. I think that what we've seen so far kind of enumerates that right like she is more explosive than what she seen so far from him. Right, I agree. Okay. Number number 10 for me now ten. Yep. I'm going to go Scottie Barnes. Okay, everything we saw from Scottie Barnes is open are against North Florida was what we'd expected to see he went for 8.6 rebounds and six assists. He was very aggressive in transition. He was a really really high level passer for kind of a day forward. I don't really buy the point guard stuff with Scottie Barnes, but I Do by the fact that he can play as kind of a like point forward E-Type Florida state has the most Florida State roster like in history this year because like there are times where they're playing like four guys between six foot five and six foot nine on the cord at 1 a.m. Like their most-used line up in that game was Raekwon gray MJ Walker Anthony polite Scottie Barnes and basa and yeah polishes. Seven foot one but like all the rest of those guys are like 65268 Raekwon Evans MJ Walker Anthony. Pelit Raekwon gray and Malik Osborne was their second most-used line off everyone between 6 five and six nine. They have Tanner end gone who is a I believe Canadian Centre out of Ryerson. If I remember correctly his just an enormous wingspan down the whole Forest that experience is going to be hilarious and fun this year and they're going to be absolutely fucking miserable to play against and Scottie Barnes is going to be the same piece of why they're miserable to play against defensively. He's genuinely a one through five Defender everything we saw against North Florida showed that he's going to continue to be a super high level defender in college basketball this year wage. Yeah, we only have 24 minutes literally to scout him right now and he plays Florida this weekend. I'm looking forward to that. I don't see the point guard either. I do things legit point forward. He's a good teammate. He's well-liked. If you can get anything out of his jumper from distance, he'd be drafted higher if you can get anything if he is a 35% three-point shooter. He is a All-Star game Heavy. Yeah. I mean he can actually create like with the ball in his hands and he can really pass like if you give him a real jump shot. He is an All-Star. I don't know that we're ever going to see him with a real jump thought though like he might just get to the level that like Andre would Allah has gotten too which isn't quite good enough to reach that like super high level even though I think Andre did make 1:30, right? Yeah. Yeah and look like I think Scotty is going to be as good as Iguodala because that's just an exceptionally high standard. But like I'm just trying to think of guys that you know did a lot of these similar things that didn't quite have the job. . And how did their careers work out? There's a pathway for these guys to be very valuable, but You know, I think Scotty's Scotty's a little bit further off with the jump shot than most of these players, but he does everything else. So well that I would pretty happily take him at 10. Yeah one spot lower. That's it. Yep. Cool. Hi Adam at 9. So I'm pretty good to get him here. Great. So for me, the guy I had it 8th who I'm going to pick next. This is a little bit of a a shooter shot him and he's also a shooter. I'm with Moses Moody from Arkansas who Okay 6 with five shooting guard. I said earlier. His numbers are higher because of his role on the bus bus like your Mason Jones and Isaiah Joe. So like I get it but I don't know if I'd say floor cuz I you guys have played a game yet. But the minimum room getting a high level 3 in D Wing in that era nice with mould six six seven foot wingspan. I just don't see a scenario where he doesn't get rotation NBA minutes. He's averaging 17 and six shooting forty 6% of the field 38% from 3. Eighty 6% for free throw line also is after shooting 146 from 3 p s first game. He's still catching shoots his best bet but he's physically stronger than he was in high school. He knows how to run the wing and stay wide score some points of the offensive glass. The games becoming a little bit more well-rounded and NBA they might pigeon hole in a little bit. But to show that he's able to do that is is pretty impressive just as impressive is just firing to rent out this month. I mean what pick is this? 11? Yeah, 11:00 so Matt vert Academy at Florida will have three picks in the top 11 with Jade Moses and Scottie Barnes crazy dead. Yeah. I mean, that's absolutely insane and I had Moses at eighteen. So this is a little bit low for me or a little bit high for me, but he's been really good so far and not the limited competition that Arkansas has played. Yeah, they're playing nobody there. That is true too. Yeah. I mean I will say like his offensive game has looked a little bit more well-rounded than what I thought. It was like I thought he was purely three indeed shoot shots and attack Closeouts and he's been able to do a little bit more with ball-in-hand birth. That so far like you said very physically ready to play. He's also very very young for this class. He's still eighteen years old. His birthday isn't until like may you would know that better than I would, but not outside my head you are the encyclopedia, but he is he is Young first class. Yeah. Yeah. So there's a lot of reason to buy into Moses Moody. Like I don't hate this at all. It's a little bit higher than where I had them, but I really like what I've seen from Moses Moody so far and I'm actually going to kind of stay on the wings and freshman Wings here and I'm going to go Josh Christopher number 12 000 wage. And yes, he has struggled to shoot it from distance this year. He's 4:15 from 3. So small sample size whatever but he's made his free throws at 77% Here's pretty regularly been like a good enough three point shooter with that track with you. Yes. Yeah, he's a bucket. He's getting hit some good enough for three. Yeah. Yeah, and they've actually played relatively tough competition. I mean he dropped 28 on Villanova and looked down absolutely phenomenal doing so that was probably one of the best Prospect performances. I've seen all year. He was able to get to any spot that he wanted against Villanova's defense. It was very very aggressive. He dropped 18 on a pretty solid Rhode Island team that can actually defend it a reasonable level. He then, you know dropped 14 points in three rebounds in his conference debut against Cal and he wasn't awesome in that game necessarily, but he did everything that they needed from him as kind of a scoring leaves next to Remy Martin and next to Marcus Bagley who I think we'll talk about later on this podcast. So yeah, Josh Christopher just done a really really good job score whenever he's engaged offensively. He does a really good job. Good job of making opposing players lives difficult. He's definitely a bit more physically mature than most other freshmen. Like he is a solid. What do you want to say to $10,200 have a strong base? Yeah strongly. Yeah, so he's a bit more physically prepared to come into college basketball, but when we're going through this list, it's just like it's hard to find guys that have been freshman that have been strong and consistent and has been valuable throughout the course of this season and Josh Christopher is one of them. I've really liked what I've seen from him. At the defense a little shaky to me. I think it was almost four or five is a game too. It's like if you limit the reaching and the cheap files that'll help. He's definitely it's an offense type of guy. I'm not a hundred percent. Sure. He starts right away in the NBA but we predicted he'd get his in the preseason and he asked me and him into playing with Remy Martin a guy who comes off ball screens. It looks 42 that's helped him off in high school. He kind of had to and he'll still pull the ball out like do his own thing and creative zone offense, but some of its within the flow. Yep. Okay, let's go to the number 13 Penny. Okay, I'm might scroll back here as he was lower. So thirteen I had this guy who my crush me for this. I'm going to go turns Clark know it's high sky on my board. Okay off 6-7 guard forward creative. He's got a lot dumped into his lap at Kentucky. Yep. He's he's been putting in different spots kind of figured out whether that's a score or now is the appoint guard. He's a facilitator. Do we use more in this role as opposed to on the way, he does well using his length to score like Boston. He got off to a slow start from 3 to 3 last game. He gets into Lane pretty regularly because of his first step and he knows how to use that soft floater with different releases to get the shot off. He's also one of these guys he's going to get better with more complete players around him as I saw and off and Grassroots and in high school at Brewster Academy playing with other really high level guys that he doesn't he doesn't need to have the full responsibility of creating scoring. He can play his role within a a bigger team system. Yeah. I I think this is a totally reasonable pick. I think he has been Kentucky's best player so far wage That you know, maybe some Kentucky fans will look at you know, maybe Isaiah Jackson is the guy that they've been most impressed with but Terrence Clarke has been very very valuable in a difficult spot because for similar reasons to BJ Boston, like they just don't have any space and he's tough. He's strong. He like even though he is wiry like I feel like he plays with strength. Would you agree with that? Yeah, wiry strength. Yeah, like when he when he goes to Lane he'll use a floater. Okay, but little bit but not like completely bumped off his path. Like Zaire could be at times right like they're guys who just don't play through contact all that. Well, I think the terrorists despite being under two hundred pounds. Let's move he plays through contacts and doesn't really have an issue with it. He's tough. I think that he's actually been okay defensively so far. He's really, you know, kind of been a terror in passing Lane. His done like a pretty good job of making his presence felt there. But yeah, like I I kind of like Terrence Clarksville. I'm not out on Terrence Clarke despite the fact that Kentucky are strong so far and here we are we have to Kentucky guys still in the lottery despite the fact that they are one and three this season and I couldn't have huge raft. The Boston guy had to do that. So I feel better about myself wage. Okay, next up for me. I am going to go James book Night at 14. Wow. Yep. Is that higher than where you got home. Right right on right on you picked my running back. Yeah. Yeah. I have him at number twelve. He has been awesome. He has been 19 points a night six rebounds 35 from 3, eighty percent from the line has done everything that Connecticut could have asked for from a lead scorer. He looks like a really high level scoring off. Yard, still doesn't quite through enough defensively for me. He's still quite skinny. He's growing into his frame. But the ability to be a shot-maker from distance I think is really improving. He's up to three point volume considerably so far. He's taking twice as many three as per game this season as he did last season and the ball looks good coming out of his hand. He has been again at error in passing Lanes, but it's he's not as solid positionally defensively cuz he can get kind of blown through a little bit but this is just a like scoring guard package that I think is pretty strong and should be uh, Should be pretty strong as we go toward the NBA and projectable as we go toward the NBA because of his elite-level bounce and First Step athleticism as well as his job making ability. Yeah with both hands. I mean, he was only five or 15 Vs USC. So not a great game. He got going early and then finish as well. This is also a bounce back here for him and he shut off the court issues last year. He's a believer in his ability is our quote today. He said a conference my confidence is at an all-time high. I feel like I have different abilities that working on my game him all summer Stronger Faster more explosive like we're good space right now. I'm in a good space. So to see a guy bounced back after some crap off the court and seemly put it together. You feel like oh, okay. You're up next at number fifteen. So we're out of the lottery. I have a lottery. Okay. This is another like middle-of-the-road hedge. I don't have a contract with a G league night program. I may have to after this I'm going to go to the next point guard six-foot-five crafty. Big ball handler can be ball-dominant. I made the point about Jim in Green in retrospect. I wish he were at UCLA so we could watch him and evaluate him closer but exceptional vision and sees the game a couple plays ahead still needs to show up the jumper and be able to make an impact on the game without the ball in his hands. But I like what I've seen thus far. Yeah really dead grass roots level. I mean we have what else do we really seeing? Yeah, really crafty high-level live durable passer that makes me think that it would translate really well to the NBA like or we worry about him getting separation at all. The next level. Yeah. No, I am I am that's why I kind of put them right here at fourteen fifty and whatever it is because If he had that real separation, maybe he goes a a pic or two higher. Yeah, and he's always kind of relied on spins in the eurostep as opposed to like the the jab and the blow by. Yep. Yeah, this is fine. We haven't seen deshan Nick's. I don't know that it's worth like really diving deep on what needs. Have to yeah. Number 16. I'm going to go moose Mountain Ruba. He has been a little bit less effective this year for Real Madrid than he has last year. I haven't had time to like really dig deep into why that's the case. But in the tape that I've watched, you know, he's just been kind of a guy out there and sometimes it's okay when you're a guy out there at eighteen playing for probably the best team in the world outside of the NBA in real life. But given the fact that he's a six foot eight Center. That is still trying to develop a three point shot. It's not really there yet and doesn't have like crazy lift. Like he's not some guy. That's a crazy like pick-and-roll threat divert necessarily despite the fact that he has what looks like something like a 7273 wingspan at six foot eight. That's that's concerning to me. What you do with respond gruba or offensively is concerning to me. The reason I have in this high is that he is a guy that song is playing a high level that Real Madrid and his a part-time starter for the best team in the world outside of the NBA be he is one of the better young Defenders that I've evaluated at the European pro-level. He just makes the rate read consistently. He can slide his feet at a reasonable level on the parameter. She is instinctive and reactive as a rotational rim protector. I'm just really starting to get worried enough about what his offensive role is going to be to where it's worth dropping him like three or four spots to where he's just slightly outside of the lottery right now agree not going to even pretend to know any of the depth of his game background Etc with a with Figueroa as your the I'm like the domestic wage at a time for the International Scout. So I just I'm going to go with your expertise there. Yeah. I'm going to have to like make some calls on him at some point to figure out like is there something bothering him a little bit but I do know nonetheless. I'm going to be comfortable with him at Sixteen at the moment. So you go on ahead you are up next at number Seventeen. Yeah. This one's a little bit it's heavy and it's become this kind of like hot takey Riser. I'm going to go with Marcus Bagley from Arizona State. Okay 618 for he's been utterly surprised dead. I dismissed him almost like during this whole recruiting stuff similar to what I did with lamelo ball because I was just like, oh, you know the brothers the show. This is the the little brother's going to be the best one thing. I didn't believe it that happened with both of them, but my great size for shooter at six foot eight. He's an athlete but hasn't shown a ton of off the dribble stuff yet. Despite one game. He did have 14 free throw attempts. He's able to sit in that corner just like Josh Christopher and get drives and kicks and have people make plays for him. His great-looking mechanics on a shot it straight up and down keeps his body Square his shoulders Square just been a a surprise and for the way he's built. I'm buying that for an NBA fit off. Yeah. I am a twenty three. So I think this is like a totally reasonable Place. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah at the end of the day like this is like you said, it's right in the range off. Where are we at? We're at I want to say 17/18. Yeah, so I'm not so yeah. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, I think Seventeen s fine. I've actually took me three so we're right in the range. Like I think at this point we're kind of I don't want to say we're throwing darts necessarily, but It's going to be a lot more hit-or-miss from Scout to scout. You nailed it in terms of what I like about Bagley the jump shot just looks incredibly projectable for a guy who's six foot eight 215 pounds off. It's just so smooth. It gets off his hand easy as good rotation. Like there's there's nothing to make me believe that he's not going to be a high level three point shooter at that size. Yeah, totally and and the runoff the line stuff and he is an athlete like you haven't seen it make a dunks yet. But like he can do it. I mean that was kind of a lot of clips that I saw before even got to Arizona wage was him doing crazy windows and open gyms in between the legs and for him to not the wasn't shooter before but now that shooting his calling card. It's it's kind of like taking me back that if he puts it all together. Maybe is a 15 the lottery guy. Okay. So you went with the toolsy six-foot-eight shooting Wang. I'm going to go with the steadier solid smaller Wing who looks like he is a tank out on the basketball court. I'm going to go Kiante Johnson at eighteen. Oh, okay. I was guessing a different one. All right, I have him at fifteen personally. So this is a little bit lower than where I am. He's looked really good in their first two games or I think they've played three now, I didn't watch Stetson, but I did watch Boston College and did watch Army. He was the best player on the court against bots. which unequivocally like I really liked what I saw from tray man in that game, but Kiante just totally dominated everything in that entire game. You went for twenty four and twelve really crashed. The defensive glass really was effects. See you as a spot-up driver and as a cutter he knocked down a couple of Threes everything about his game screams. Just really Solid 3 in D Wing off at the NBA level. I'm like 10% concerned about the foot speed but As long as the foot speed at least gets to a reasonable level. He is absolutely going to be a high-level rotation player in the NBA because guys who can shoot our smart defensively have this six-foot-five 225-pound frame with long arms. It's just harder to find those guys than what you'd think across college basketball, like what we've you could say that maybe like Josh Christopher is one of them but Christopher isn't quite as good defensively you could say that Moses Moody is probably the guy that went ahead this that I would still take keyonce ahead of Moses Moody personally, but I think it's totally impossible to do you think it's so reasonable to have Moses Moody ahead of chiante though like Kia Johnson is in a shooter right now like this position this 3 in D Wing who can guard multiple spots like 2 through 4 across the perimeter wage is what the NBA is looking for still that we have not found enough of these guys and keyontae Johnson's just sitting there and he went really underrated as one of the best players in the SEC life here in conference play. He was exceptional. I think if you look at Ken Palms algorithm, he was the third-best player in the SEC last year. Fourth-best. I'm sorry like Jack Johnson Johnson is legit. This is not a projection thing. This is he is already fucking there and is a very very good player who is essentially a professional playing college basketball right now, he's grown man. Yeah. Yeah, if we're if we're getting like corny, I think he's kind of like the the fuel for the Florida engine like makes them really go. He likes running that role as a trailer off. Like big to make plays and shoot threes. He's open but he won't Force. He's a good interior passer. The one thing I'll just throw back to you is are you a hundred percent told that he's Wing or can he be this like Ultra a small ball? Five in the Grant Williams type mold. Yeah. I worry that. He's actually six-foot-five. Like I think really chance that like he's going to come in at like 6 4 and 1/2 off or he's yeah, that's tough stuff for a small Center even on small. So you're yeah, it was like a 6-4 tank Wing. I just have to get most Moody. I I took really early but I just think that that's probably Transferable that he's going to like most beauteous is going to shoot. I just worry. I know the whole thing's going to position less but still kind of weird. Is he on tape it up there. I love we're just for Florida Gators fan tastic. I'm just not as a head of a twenty one. So just a little bit lower than you. Yeah. No, we're in the same tier 4 chiante. So Europe where at nineteen now, so nineteen, I'm going to go off Jackson from Kentucky. Okay a little bit higher than where I had him but not too far off but a pogo stick big you don't need to run place for them defensively. He blocks and Alters a ton of shots. He's averaging eight points 11 rebounds three blocks a game. You've had the numbers last time that I think somehow the defense was worse with him on the floor, which I don't really understand he needs to round out some of those rougher edges off. At least we can be somewhat of a threat when left open but if I'm in the late teens in the twenties, the the best wings are off the board and I want kind of a an energy guy for a playoff time. I like him there. Yeah, so I'm pulling up the on-off numbers now because they've obviously played Georgia Tech since then, I think that it's kind of easy to tell why Kentucky might be a bit worse with him on the court defensively and they still are there still five points worse per 100 possessions with him on the court defensively. So a little bit better than I thought they were previously but I think that what's happening is he just jumps and bites on every single pump fake. Oh, yeah planet Earth recover quickly, but it does he does bite on it. Yeah. Yep. Yeah and it's it's kind of easy to get him out of position at least momentarily. That's fine. He'll get better at that. And I think that by the end of the season there's a he is the guy that like we've talked about in this range where it's like, oh, yeah, if he goes in the top ten, like that's not at all a stunner right because there's a real chance that he figures out. Solid defensive aspects of his game continues to add on the elite level shot-blocking and rim protection and rebounding and they figure out how to use him as like a rumor a roller right? Totally. Yeah. So that was number nineteen Isaiah Jackson. We talked about him kind of at length on previous podcast though, right? Yes, we have so at number twenty. I'm going to go David Johnson off from Louisville. This is a little bit lower than where I have him. I haven't met I think 16 or 17 right now. He's had to really really good games. He's had two games where it seems like wage level was still trying to figure out how to use him next to Carly Jones. The big thing for David Johnson is that you know, people Louisville says say that he can really shoot now and if he can really shoot I believe in him as a very very high level second side distributor who could rise up into the lottery against Western Kentucky for 17 points eight assists six rebounds against Prairie View. He went for 19 points six assists three rebounds. Against eating although he was you know in foul trouble a little bit early and seemed like he didn't quite know where his role was. But over the last two games. He's really accepted that second side make a quick decision maybe out of second side ball screen or out of an advantage situation where the fender is closing out heavily upon me get into the lane collapse the defense make a high level Kick Out Pass. He still is one of the best passers in college basketball in terms of translate ability to the NBA just in the way that he seemed was like cross corner kick outs and specific dump off passes that are always there in the NBA. So yeah, I really believe in David Johnson and I'm excited to see where the shooting kind of settles in because if he is the kind of shooter that Louisville thinks he is he has some real ceiling based off the last two games that we've seen from him. A different player when he's healthy too. I mean he he bailed that last season with his jumper. He has hit you probably have pulled up. I think it said for three days this year and he had five all season. So it's clearly put time into the gym. He's shooting forty 6% of the field. The turnover numbers are still high and force it a little bit. Thanks. We have three but he does look confident pulling up. He scores versus month to the post the extensions extends while delaying through contact. I like the size of a guard position. I am a little bit lower in the twenties, but I get the the entry that you've take them at what 20/20? Yep. Yeah. Okay. We're just a few spots off not yet and I had him and Seventeen looking at it. So yeah, I'm higher on this even than David a higher on David Johnson than this even so I'm twenty-four. So yeah, this one might break your heart and you might say it's a little high. I don't care what Corey kispert from Gonzaga. Yeah. I had him at twenty. He was not right next player, but we have a second job. Is the like people just going to be like you have one list you're taking turns reading off? No, we don't we have our own lists. But gorgeous. I think is a great pic here. Yeah, totally reasonable wage is the do-it-all senior projected right around the 30s last year. It's rounded. I was game more does everything within the flow. You can't leave them open. He knows where to go off the bouncy fits in with the team as an author been shooter in the NBA to me that can space the floor and we have to mention that he was a former High School football player whose grandfather played the jet. So he's also football tough. I just think that again in this range you're dealing with playoff contenders were looking for Shooters. We're looking for guys to to fill that value-add role and he's a good guy here. Yeah. I mean he's going to be a wage. I'm close. If not a 50-40-90 guy this year. He is awesome. He's so good offensively. He's added that ability to attack Closeouts. He's out of that little euro-step birth. that looks like it's going in slow motion but is really really tough for Defenders to stay in front of apparently very rarely dunks despite the fact that he actually has a little bit more burst off vertically and pop vertically then what I think he gets credit for yeah I have them a 20 I think this is a totally reasonable pick and I would probably I would not be surprised if it turns into a high level you know second or third wing on an NBA team that just knocks down 44% of his threes suck some Joe Harris Clips in the offseason just be just do this oh he's already watching them like there you go yeah same. Okay number 22 age I think we're at Trey man for me and this is probably aggressive do you have trained man on your Port I will full disclosure I don't want to suck Capri podcast you said his name and said that somebody I meant to put over here like shield in pretty well. He was great in that Boston College game score a combo. I'll let you take the lead here but his kind of had the breakout season that I didn't necessarily anticipate out of him. Yeah, great in both the Army and Boston College games again. I did not watch the stats in game, but looks to have grown like he looks like he's like six foot five six foot six now as opposed to being like the six-foot-three six-foot-four like combo guard that he was in high school life. She is not big he can shoot at he can make pretty good passing reads and his shiftiness with the ball and hand is just insane his boss. He is such a tight ball handler he gets in and out of his moves so quickly this I think he has a real shot to like bursts off. The board and like if you told me Tre man goes higher than James book night. I would not be surprised because I take fired up. I like okay. So here's see you go, but I'm not I'm not arguing it because he's played 3 games for Game like they have Florida State this weekend if you if he has a Breakout game against those guys and like it a Thursday the Scottie Barnes, you'll start seeing that pop up places. So here here would be like the trainman case versus James book might not even know that I I certainly don't even know that I agree with this yet, but we have two small of a sample entree man, which is why I have them a little bit lower. But at least this version of trim man. There trimming and book night or about the same size. Right? Like there's somewhere like six foot five six five hundred eighty-five pounds, right? Do we think they're pretty close as jump Shooters? Cuz I think they are right. Yes. I don't know if you're reading me down like a laundry list of things but I'd say yes true man is like unequivocally a better ball-handler like it's not even they're not even in the same Stratosphere as ball-handlers. Like Trey man is a lead guard James book Night is a secondary playmaker to look at who probably needs to improve the ball-handler a little bit right hard to to make yes. Yeah. Well tonight is more explosive. Tray man is quicker. I would say Yes book night definitely more explosive but like trade trade man's not a bad athlete, but the way booking it uses both hands both feet. Yes. Yeah book nights a better finisher off. Then Trey man is just cuz he can finish Above the Rim and Trey man doesn't really finish about the rim. I really think that if true man shooting is real. It's easier to project a guy who can be a super high level passer super high level ball-handler and Jupiter than it is like high-level athlete who is a good shooter not a great shooter, but who is like a great putter but is still improving on the ball? Like you can just kind of do more with someone like tramac and if the shooting and like the decision-making continues down the track that it has so far this year. I'm with that somebody tweeted at us to after one of the pots. We watched Raymond and I did she might just with Don put him on here, but I'm yeah, I'm interested to to track and see more and maybe after ten games we look at it and it's closer than it is now off. All right, you're up at twenty-three. I believe. Yes. I'm at 23 we talked about him before that from 23 or 30 were kind of just this month. like the dark range though, could you not So I'm gonna throw a dart. My first Dart is going to be Ki Jones from Texas. It's really funny. I was so excited to Break Your Heart by taking Kai Jones at 20000. I Broke Girls with Cody kispert and I got turns Clark so it's just going swimmingly for me, but it's like every time I have a fantasy draft, I think it goes. Well, I'm the worst team imaginable. Hope this is not the case for Kai Jones. I shot my shot that he's the best pro Hosni prospect on Texas. He's come back there and down-to-earth a little bit. He's now only shooting 86% from the field but in a fifth, he's an efficient scorer shooter in Texas pots back home the alphabet there and we'll get him the ball in the right positions to be successful. But he's long. He's athletic. He runs the floor hard. He doesn't have a block yet, which is yeah unfathomable to me. Like I don't get it like you had a ton of blocks when he was at Brewster Academy. He shows potential in pick-and-roll trapsoul. She has to put all these tools together consistently to use but if we're building what we think a center should look like in the NBA it's probably him with a little bit more than a rim protection other than like altering shots at The Rim so to get him at at twenty-three, I'm I'm satisfied with this. Yeah, by the way, he finished 10th in the Big Twelve last year blocks per game despite the fact that he played sixteen minutes a night so adding to the case, but if you also said like he's going back to school or it's going like 45th. I agree with that mm but based on the small set like I see it potentially getting here. Yeah kind of a tough one because it is still very theoretical juice. Like everything he does but the upside is insane. Like there are very few guys who can do the shit that he does at six foot eleven. He can't seem like a pump fake into a one dribble pull-up from fifteen feet. Like he can actually take a euro-step while attacking a close out and fight with a dunk at the basket like his his upside is remarkable to me like the fact that they're playing Jericho Sims ahead of him is not is as unfathomable to me as Kai Jones having zero blocks. This year is unfathomable you yeah, and you shoot a 6% of the field and one of the shots he missed when I was watching was down the right side. It was a good three the game a little bit more space. They need to get it off. It gets it off and let goes in and out. So it's probably like a 89% shooter, but even like his recovery stuff too, but he gets beaten the way he recovers wage. Going to play that yeah, I'm here for it. I'm here for the the kai Jones train. I just hope it doesn't take off too quickly. Yeah, and he is a guy that could probably be held off staying in college basketball next season. But yeah, we know that doesn't happen though. Yeah, the tools are just Absolutely. I mean doesn't happen if guys like I should probably get another year just rare that if you're projected first like a hard first guys generally take it. Okay. My next guy life is his team-mate Greg Brown Greg Brown has not been great this year. He is dropped. I think ten spots on my board so far like he's like really really Fallen. Shooting 12% from 3 despite taking a ton of them forty three and half true shooting percentage. He's making free throws. So like maybe that's like some Solace he is blocking shots. I think he's actually been okay defensively. He's been a really good offensive rebounder as well. He's not like whereas with BJ Boston like BJ his struggled to make an impact because he doesn't defend impasse Greg Brown also does not pass but Greg Brown when he's on the court is not like I'm straying, Texas because he doesn't do anything other than score. He does provide energy and effort and like defensive Acuity. I just have some real worries about the jump shot long-term cuz I don't really like the mechanics. I don't like that like exaggerated elbow Bend where he brings the ball back all the way like toward his neck. It seems like they are so much worse with him on the court defensively that it's pretty staggering right now. So yeah, I so much worse. I'll take him with the 24th pick in the NBA draft. there are a lot worse with them offensively on the court they are averaging a hundred and four points per 100 possessions Wings on the corner offensively and 121 when he's off the court offensively home um he's like he must should really well in practice because he seems like he wants to prove he's the three-point shooter and he's to 4:17 right so it doesn't seem like they're awful slow down and guess about four or files a game but does have eight rebounds that's have active hands and moving on the perimeter he's he's figuring out he's young freshman he's figure out how to use this natural gas water system just has it lived up to the billing yet I had him 27 he's still a first-round talent for me just the the actual production stuff there well the the problem for him is to like it's very obvious what he wants to do every time you touch a ball and I think coaches and figured it out like he wants to eat her shoot the three of catch or he wants to pump fake and drive left that's literally our FAQ right it's like weird it's like a left drive and spends his body back and goes right like he'll put it together and start to rip throughs and two dribbles into a donkey just it hasn't you haven't seen it you don't really need it from birth either based on that one the Maui Asheville Invitational they lost a tough one last week it's Villanova right and they're really good one yeah no really good really like Matt Coleman looks like a potential All-American he is really really good yeah no he's a dude yeah so in kite Jones is we've talked about has been great like Courtney Ramey has been really really good for them so far yeah circus he wants to us take the big shot mm yeah like Jericho Sims Royce ham like these guys have been useful big men for them this year even though like playing Jericho Sims over Ki Jones is weird to me Brad Cunningham has been pretty useful for them even though he looks like the most awkward player on like planet earth that is effective so I sure Jeremiah Robinson Earl like when Brock box cover enough yeah he did so yeah Texas is really good in the fact that they don't have any top twenty guys is like kind of weird to me but yeah that's kind of where we're at in college basketball right now you are up at number twenty-five Matt twenty-five another Dart for you I'm going Jaylin Wilson from Kansas okay yeah it's still Reigns off yeah haven't seen him Yet he will the next round of everyone's mock drafts. He'll be there. He wasn't on any draft boards and really kind of like considered somewhat of an afterthought with Marcus Garrett and Hibachi this season averaging six to nine fifty percent from the field 39 from Three Sixty 2% of free throw line. I think just simply put he won that Kentucky game the second half. Yep and E won the Creighton eighty-two. Yeah. I'm very true. I mean size in the wing he's had some success upfront. I mean, it's like perfectly 20/20 that bill selfish run the best high-low offense of all time and has been a forced to go small and he's playing the five and the scoring baskets in the post and spinning and then hitting a three can guard multiple spots. Does he continue on this when you play 15 games? Not sure yet. But if the draft was tomorrow, I like him here. Yeah. What do we think of his jumper? He is like a very skinny base, but it's gone in so far. skinny base is gone in if you read any of the the Kansas stuff like the beat writers and people in the area they're all kind of like already saying like yeah I don't know if you really shoots it as well as he has planned yeah but it's it's hard to just completely dismiss it right now when it is close to 40% yeah no I mean he went twenty-three and ten against both Creighton and Kentucky he was not bad in life in the Gonzaga game like he was fine he went I want to say 14 and 15 against North Dakota State and what was a close game like they really needed him to be as good as he was that day off so yeah I mean we're we're as like Duke and Kentucky or kind of like searching and that guy hasn't Revealed himself yet, like the big Revelation for Kansas was like, oh man, like this kids probably better than we thought he's a Top fifty recruit just gonna go to Michigan decommitted when John beilein left to go to the NBA off looked at North Carolina looked at Kansas. Obviously, they wanted them but I think people would tell you're crazy. If you said you're one is to come in average sixteen and nine potentially be gone if you didn't get hurt and Richard Gere. Yeah, I mean You mentioned earlier that you think Jalen Suggs is the guy that has helped himself most. I mean, it's hard for me to get past Jaylin Wilson being that's good point. I mean subprime one from like 12 to Thursday or for this guy went from undrafted two first-round pick. Yeah, like he went from I don't know that he is going to be a starter on a Kansas team that we all have questions about 2,000 holyshit. This guy might be a first-round. He didn't like he was at a starter. Yeah. Yeah, like it's it's a wild rice for Jaylon Smith urging. Yes. I'm sorry. It completely wild rice that even like people around the Kansas program. Like you kind of mentioned that like, they don't know if he's going to shoot like dead people around the campus program. I've talked to like did not see this coming because like in being their guy to put a pleasant surprise. Yeah. I love it. It's it's amazing. I am up next. I'm going to go I owed assume you at 26 did you have I owe on your top 30 I did not so here is watch the game last night I'd say probably I mean he was fantastic last night slash rebounding scoring I did not have my board valuable is Baylor to we went for 18 6 and 5 in that game they played two good opponents and he's been awesome in both games I really love the toughness I think he competes defensively off he is six foot five and he's gotta be two hundred two hundred five two hundred ten pounds now they have him often guard like up the line up now because they're not playing guys like Trent Frazier and Andre curbelo and Adam Miller and by the way Andre curbelo is another guy that like I don't know if he's a twenty twenty one guy but he looks like he might be a real first round pick down the road at some yeah I love I love him he's got a short to turn over stuff and he is he is still small but I love the way he tax yeah he's probably a year away I think Like I don't know that he's twenty twenty one guy, but the soon mu he brings real versatility. You can have him guard ones twos and threes. I think pretty easily he shooting forty 2% from three so far. He's eight of nineteen like the shot looks better than what it did. He's passing. It had a high level. He's finishing at a high level sneaking 83% of his free throws. This is everything that you're looking for from like a third guard in the NBA as long as the jump shot stays at like a 37% clip off. He's a really really good player and he is very much in the mix. I think for the national player-of-the-year race. Yeah. Just going to be a little bit wild. He wants to kind of channel that a little bit but does play with the level of Rome was mistreating down loose balls and keeping Place alive and he started that break a few times last night's really good making passes and transition to just the simple bounce pass. He threw another log on a different possession dead. They rolled out would do with a 14 or to run and there was no slowing them down. Yeah, talk about how Coach K lost that game last night no week but in short. Yeah, I mean the one time to ever stay small they go big with Mark Williams put Jim & Jack's on the wing. You can't stop the bleeding. It's 14 to 2. It's a timeout now they said well proceed now you got small and not too late now like coffee is going to come back full strength in 4 minutes. Well that and what are you thinking playing Mark Williams against Kofi? He can't establish position against Kofi. They tried to push Williams on an island against Kofi. They didn't even help down or dig down with their wings on to Kofi whenever he got the ball in the block like That was one of the most baffling coaching decisions. I've seen in a couple of years was to not play small and try and play Kofi off the court like it's not like Matt hurt is a considerably worse post Defender at this stage of his career than Mark Williams. No, it's the Dukes lenders tough for me. I grew up a huge dog fan of pictures on my wall. So I'll I'll let you slice back. You know, what the like look I did too. But like I was totally right there with you, but I'm not there anymore. Yeah, don't meet your Heroes. Don't meet your Heroes. Yeah, I did the I think that I had a hard time in that particular game with Mark vital guarding him and pick-and-roll who's kind of pushed out Beyond where he wanted to start the offense. So their end up doing this like peeing are like really far out where it's like negates the whole point of it off. You just need more of the the good version of him from last night. I know he's all over the place. You have me first round. A lot of the places have second a couple of places have him undrafted if he's dead National player-of-the-year if Illinois continues on this trajectory, I don't see him going undrafted. I don't know how much higher he goes then then you have them, but he'll find a landing spot off. Okay, you're up. Next. We're at 27. I am a woman straight scoring right here at 1 p.m. Thomas from LSU. Yep. I've been guard perfect instant offense off or a twenty-two hundred points at Oak Hill Academy in two years while averaging Thirty-One points per game. He also led the Nike eybl in scoring Hero's out of bed and gets to 20. He had 23 points per game right off the season shooting 48% for the field forty from 3. He's put on at least fifteen pounds of muscle since being on campus and you can read about all this stuff down there about how often used to working out very confident game pulls up from anywhere without thinking twice. He's not a point guard at six-foot-three. He's going to have to be that combo next do a bigger guard but a guy that you should see coming off the bench and wreaking havoc in the NBA. Yeah. If you told me he really jumps up over the course of this year. I would not be surprised. I just want to see him play better players to be honest. Yes like off. that's where I'm at I don't they just haven't played anyone really as soon as they place my hand and he can't they're not they're like they'll play some bass yeah yeah like as soon as he keeps doing this against the actual opponents like he could jump up into the top twenty pretty easily but he could also like just slide if he's not quite as good as what we've seen so far so I think that this is the right spot he's been exceptional so far as a square box I really like what we've seen from cam Thomas yep okay number 28 I think is going to surprise you a little bit I'm going Darren sharp know I had a 28-25 yeah but just like given who I am like I hate drafting bags in general I wasn't really a day or on Sharp fan coming into this season He's been better than what I thought and it's because he's been more well-rounded than what I thought. He was like, yeah, he can't chew, but he's a little bit more mobile. He is a much much much better passer and like playmaker than what I thought. He was he's a better rim protector like rotationally than what I thought like I thought he'd come in and be like pretty lost but he's not lost at all. I think he's like proven himself to be North Carolina's best Prospect, even though I really liked Caleb love coming into the year. Like they were on Sharp has been really good at a lot of the things you need a modern big to be good at And he showed his moments last night too with Garza g a 13 and 6. He has to limit his fouls. He's only averaged 8 and 7 for the year, but it showed glimpses that he can do it. If you're late twenties huge gamble as a rotational five this late in the draft. Yeah. I thought he was every bit as good as Luka Garza last night. If not bad. Yeah and just Iowa shooters were ridiculous. Yeah, like she Luka Garza was not very good last night. Like I know that college basketball writers were falling over themselves to be like, oh, yeah, even in an off-night Luka Garza had 14 points and fifteen pounds. Yeah. Yeah, you might use okay, he wasn't terrible but I hadn't all had seen was like the clips of oh, yeah dirty in the first half. He finished the song you want fish was so I was like buckled up like, okay National T. You're playing against at least bigger better Biggs. Like let's see it and he still could score took a shot off. But yeah, the spin was like he's winning the dog. well below the rim it's like well I hope so like what else he's not winning the Battle Above the Rim iOS what was he winning the battle below the rabies shot six of 20 from the field position he got the wage in any way and in the paint but and then that'll to like his transition defense is a real problem like North Carolina story about how the dad was like time off running up and down to stop watch and yeah I don't know it looked like none of this is even say that like I think he's not a good player like I think Luka Garza is a really really good player I think that he is probably the second best player in college basketball behind kid Cunningham but like What he doesn't play. Well, we're allowed to say that Luka Garza was not very good in a game. Like it's okay to say that in that team was put together. So well that like, yeah ten am not play. Well, I know their home and you have a soft rims that you're used to but he could kick it out and if you double down or edict down he kicks out to go hand in order to to waste camp and those guys just kept coming at you home. Yeah, like he was very clearly their fourth best player last night like CJ Frederick went eight of eleven from the field made five threes. Jordan Bohannon dropped Twenty Four Points. Joey Skaggs was 5 or 7 from 3 with nine rebounds and five assists like they're they're eleven 4:22 in the first half cuz I remember seeing it before like my snack run and I was like, how bad was this like? Oh, that was bad. Yeah, but if you're free McAfee that you're happy with that like your natural place is okay. Okay plus and you still want a lotta these bad like it's okay to say Luka Garza was bad in that game cuz he was on the point in my mouth. For Creative say it was bad yet. But like he wasn't great. Yeah, he was not good in that game. It's he's a great player who did not play. Well, right. Yes, and he's like helped him settle in my estimation over the course of this year on some level and like the more that I think about Luka Garza and how it's going to work in the NBA. I'm still very sceptical life, but I would draft him at this point like I would draft second round it. Yeah in the second round at some point, but Like it's okay to say when a guy doesn't play. Well like we need to be able to do that and just acknowledge that it's okay when a guy does not play well and not we're not like sitting on the guy. He's still an exceptional player who was still unbelievably good but like he was a real problem for Iowa on the court at times last night off. Yeah, and to go full circle guess where deryn sharp went to high school you went to montverde. So that's full Manford. We don't we're in the first round. Is that more than any college team or yeah probably is dead set as yeah. Yeah, but shut out Luka Garza like, I'm glad that Luka Garza Luca. We're in your corner. Yeah. Like I didn't Luka Garza base college basketball good. Yeah and like Iowa famed get angry with me cuz I'm like, yeah, he's not really a Pro Prospect. And yeah, I thought Obi toppin was more effective than he was last year. Luka. Garza is a great player. He's exceptional basketball game. Exceptional college basketball particularly, but like it's okay. He played at an unbelievable level through Iowa's first four games and averaged wage 38 a night or whatever and then last night against North Carolina. He was not very good like it's Gotta stop at some point. Yeah. It's okay. We're up to number twenty-nine for you. Yep. This is your last pic. All right. I've got 24 I'm torn here. I can't not take him. I'm going to take Jeremiah Robinson Earl. Okay going forward six-foot-nine. He flirted with the draft last year sixteen points per game nine rebounds per game King of the mid-range has been doing a lot of like fifteen footer stuff off to extend a little bit more not a super athlete learning to move his feet better to defend in space very unselfish player. You know, I think you have like maybe two games ago. I want to say had two points but doesn't affect the type of guy that he is moves the Bell ball. He won't show your offense High character guy if I can get him 29 for maybe this evil lost in NBA Finals wage. That's a great fit. Okay number thirty. I'm going to go Caleb love out of North Carolina. Caleb has not been very good this year. Like again, we can just say that he looks great in the open court and he looks great as long as soon shoot three point shooter. But anytime he has to run half-court offense. It's been kind of a train wreck 37.73 shooting percentage 24 and half turnover rate wage. He is only four of 23 from 3. But I mean you would agree with me that he's a much better shooter than that. Like he's proven it at lower levels and is off like like the ball looks pure as shit coming off of this hand. Yeah. I just I don't know what you do with them the games wide-open. He's great. He flies around makes plays off you with the ball score you can get it and go but just when the game is shrunk down to the half-court, he would play slower. He looks a little bit more lost me. They run that horn set a lot for him that he can turn the corner of pick-and-roll show dog. You defensive lapses here and there just far from he's not the guy that I thought he'd be this year, but I'm not writing him off yet either. Yeah, that's why we have them Authority like he's dropped probably more than any player on my board so far this year cuz he just doesn't look ready for college basketball at this stage. But you know, hopefully figures it out who are some of the guys that you left off. Yeah, a couple of aspects of quick ones Chris Smith from UCLA. I really liked I had him at twenty-five twenty-six that just a couple International guys jumped up SpongeBob down the board who else I got here and I Christmas Thirty. So yeah. Yeah, he came back to school was young first class. Uh, good length good size for the wing late bloomer. Didn't have a great game at Metro, but I'm still a somewhat believer has married again Stan Kessler Edwards and was great against Cal in their Pac-12 opener as well. Yeah. I also had Earl Timberlake bit older for a freshman. He just turned twenty has like that man's frame build that fits the modern NBA plays with an edge charge stopped and transition utilizing the half-court and then the other one. I know maybe a touch high but Aaron Henry from Michigan State the shootings not there who's one for 12 from 3, but he completely changed that game against Duke using his length attacking both ends of the floor the rest of the package from buying just the the jumpers hunt there. Yeah, two guys on the international front for me Josh Kitty and Rogue. Okaasan off Roku has been pretty good so far for sabona shooting 50% from the field 14.2 points 7 1/2 rebounds. He is I believe a teenage girl Then for that team so really high level character kid. He's also just like kind of a six-foot-nine combo big so he's really going to have to shoot it and he shooting like 32% from three so far projectable shot though. So it's possible that he continues to rise up the board Josh giddy is going to play over here in the NBL. I haven't played yet this year and honestly, I think I'm I was a little bit high on him in the mock draft that I did in the preseason. The final Euro guy that I wanted at least mention is alperin single out of turkey. He is playing for bets kita's and averaging twenty four twenty point four points and 10.3 rebounds that page is like pretty ridiculous production levels for a teenager. Yes in Turkey. He I believe is leading the league in points in his second and rebirth Hit the moment. So I haven't gotten a chance to watch him enough yet to where I can like really feel confident ranking him, but it's worth it. Just mentioning him in something like this because like there's a chance that he's just like way way better than where we have him especially if he continues along this trajectory that he seemingly on right now, who do you think the guy is that we will get the most hate for not having Gerard Butler maybe Baylor. Yeah Butler's up there. Jerry Butler is my name. Yeah. I'm looking. I mean we still mentioned Christmas songs mentioned Aaron Henry turn Shannon to your Maybe. Yeah, bring her only played not Springer played nine minutes last night. It's hard to say you get six points or something. It's hard to say what he Nets out at. Yeah somewhere in that range. Yeah Butler's the top 35 guy. I want to mention dudes McBride at West Virginia had a really really strong start to the season shooting forty 1% off three was excellent against Georgetown on the road earlier. This week was really really good. Again, South Dakota state was really good against Western Kentucky as well and the game that I watched struggled a bit with Gonzaga though. Unfortunately, by the way, right? Yeah for sure West Virginia is not played a team outside of the top 100 yet home. So shoutout Bob Huggins hug huge fills in these games T was dropped there. Like we're on our way. Just give us the address will type it into Google Maps will be there shortly. Yeah. We'll take a fucking bus who-knows-how-long. I'm trying to think is there anyone else that's like really stood out as a high-level Prospect. I was high on Franz Wagner coming into the year off the list. Yep. Yeah, he's not quite there yet. I don't think Bogner maybe Josh Primo, Alabama. We talked about just a little bit. Yeah. I see more Scottie Lewis. DJ Stewart has been all right moves to see say you kind of bumped down. Yeah DJ Stewart. I bumped down quite a bit. Missy say I've bumped down-home whiteford's down praying the forties. Yeah. I don't really see it. Like the Paul has I like to Paul's played yet, cuz the cobit stuff's R Romeo Williams and somewhere in the forties. Trayce Jackson Davis had his moments that hurts his moments off. Yeah. We should talk about Matt hurt actually real quick. This was probably this is like the best case scenario start format her right this year. Like he's averaging 19 points on 54% from the field 5:41 from 3 and 73 from the line. Like he's been the lead go to score for Duke in the way that like everyone hoped he would be right wage unquestionably. Yes, like I would have him somewhere in my top 40 right now because he is six foot nine. He's probably 225 pounds and he is a 40% three-point shooter song that plays at the next level. But yeah, I mean not quite there defends. Oh not not not quite defensively he can against more athletic. I still get a shot off not going to blow by you but can get the kind of some spots on the court does have a little bit limited left on his jumper but a high release sound like a game. We blocked and you want production on Jalen Johnson you want production outage a steward but he's been a guy that's really answered the call as someone consistent and I didn't night out off or on Duke. Yeah, and he's been good in the big games as well. Like they have played what they gets, Illinois and Michigan State and he's averaging twenty points in those games and yeah Twenty One senior. Yep been pretty efficient in those games. So yeah, it's at least worth mentioning Matt hurt within the context of this conversation and he's he's doing what he could have hoped to have done so far this year to put himself in a better position. turning upward yeah I think that's all I've got you have any other like hotcakes you have to get off your chest here before we know I don't have hot takes that was one of our like a marathon sessions of podcast plenty of other stuff that we can get into and I'm sure we'll do this exercise again postseason for sure I don't know if you'd say during the season but we have a long list of guys who still follow up on and there's still some good games out there I love Sunday night of Stanford USC with yep so you're Williams and and Evan Mobley and still get Texas Baylor yeah we're just not going to work cross my fingers are still games happen and home if I got to feed to the G League bubble eventually to justify be taking two guys in the the top five will definitely do this again probably sometime in like mid-to-late January wage and then maybe going into the tournament as well just because it's fun and it's always worth updating where we are for the podcast listeners but tiny tell the people where they can find what you've got going on in your life yeah I'm on Twitter Matt underscore Penny I have love for refs I've Loved for everybody in the basketball Community don't yell at me tell us which table Next time we're we're they're more interactive. Yeah, Matt is the that is not the fire starter that I unfortunately. Yeah, you're letting the fight you're burning the building down. I'm running behind that extinguisher be like no, he's not bad. He's okay follow met Penny on Twitter. We gotta get map any up over 1,000 Twitter followers. I feel like your husband took. I feel like you're kind of grown in terms of Following over the course of a while know, it's Sneaky crept up a couple of hundred since I've I've been on here, but again, once it gets over a thousand, it's less of a swing to talk their your editors and be like, hey, like my my friend was seven hundred followers wants to come back on. It's like this adventure. Yeah, okay. I'm still haven't seen any this has been the game theory podcast. We will have the second half of our off season review with Danny leroux coming later this week next week. We're going to do win total over unders with Robby kalland off and then the week after that. I'm not real sure what we're going to do because I'm actually on vacation that week and we'll see what I end up recording. I don't know the NBA season supposed to start then off and I am on vacation for the first like seven or eight days of the NBA season, so we'll see what I can bring together, but until next time we'll talk soon. Bye.

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#366 Top 7 QBs On New Teams, NBA Finals, NKeal Harry, Shohei Ohtani, F1 Sprint Qualifying & Ask Zac

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#366 Top 7 QBs On New Teams, NBA Finals, NKeal Harry, Shohei Ohtani, F1 Sprint Qualifying & Ask Zac

"321. Oh my goodness, good morning, good afternoon, whatever it is for you. I hope you're having a fantastic day. My name is Zach, Miller is a strong opinion. Sports episode 366, welcome in a Big Show today. Talking about the NBA Finals, some baseball stuff. I got a couple of baseball topics. Not to be really cool to talk about today. I got will do an interview with my buddy Marcell Frazier. At the end really cool asked Zac questions. I want to say real quick though, I went to my old job today. I went through, I'm shipping my car off and went got a car wash and then got the got a chip in the windshield fixed. And I went to the car wash and I used to work there and I'm going through the car wash, I should cancel my old boss and the guys I used to work with and they're the same like they they all work at the same place and it's the same nothing's changed. And it's been years now and it's crazy to me. I'm like, man, I've come a long way I'm engaged. I've got an awesome career, right? Like I I just, I was driving different car. It's like, man, it's it's a different. They didn't recognize me. I had never beard back then. And I just can't say thank you enough, man. I, I love my life. I love my job. I work incredibly hard. I know that. I hope it really does show. I mean, I work my tail off behind the scenes making as much content as I possibly can and I just I wanted, you know, give a big, thank you to you guys, man. I really, really appreciate all the people who watch and listen to the podcast. You guys have changed my life forever and so many ways and I just cannot say thank you enough. Let's jump in. I want to start today with the NFL got a really, really fun topic to start with. There are seven NFL quarterbacks. I find noteworthy, who are now on new teams in the NFL. These are guys who are on one team and I are making a move to a new Team. No, rookie quarterbacks here. That's a different day for different topic. No. Rookie quarterbacks know, Trevor Lawrence know, Justin Fields. But I ranked these guys New Jersey Mike's on new teams, one through seven based on who I am confident. We'll be most successful this false a number seven who I will start with is at the bottom. And my number one guy at the weekend is the person who I am most confident in the guy, my guy. Yeah, this guy pound the table, I believe in him. I do have to give an honorable mention though real quick and adult and did go to Chicago. He's the Bears new quarterback. I left him off the list, he's not in my top seven to me. That's the thing is, he's just not the story in Chicago. Like I, I didn't include Mitchell trubisky either because Mitchell trubisky's the backup quarterback in Buffalo. There's other quarterbacks who moved around. I think that the number eight most notable guy probably is Andy Dalton. He's a guy play a little bit, we think but and he's just a placeholder for Justin. Feels like the story in Chicago is the rookie quarterback Justin Fields, but if that changes let's say Andy Dalton has an amazing year. It is incredible. Of course I'll make a new topic go up to like oh wow Andy Dalton I had such low expectations. I didn't even put him on that list I made and so I just want to acknowledge hey Andy Dalton is another guy who's going to play in the NFL. Start a couple of games and he's missing from this list in case you're wondering. But let's start off at the bottom of the ranking. Number seven, Tyrod, Taylor Tyrod, Taylor went to the Houston Texans, this offseason. Houston is terrible. They will be an awful team and he's right on the edge of a guy like he's the 28th or 30th best quarterback in the NFL, you know, he's right? He's not awful. I would put him ahead of a guy like trubisky, who's now no longer a starting quarterback and, you know, he actually, once led the Buffalo Bills to the playoffs, I mean Tyrod, Taylor's had a very weird career. And in just a couple of years back to back, he's lost his job to Josh Allen and buffalo, then Baker Mayfield in Cleveland. And then last year he lost his job to Justin Herbert in La like man, this guy, it's very weird. Now for the first time in his career, Tyrod, Taylor is finally the guy doing the replacing rather than getting replaced. Oh, Tie Rod is now the guy in Houston because the Texans most recent quarterback, DeShaun Watson played there for a couple of years is in the middle of a messy, massive legal battle. And I've seen some people say that if DeShaun Watson does ever play again, he may never play again in the NFL, but after Sean Watson does every team in the NFL, he may not play again till 2023. It could be a couple of years of legal stuff and all kinds of things. I've, I'm just going to wait, see what happens. I'm kind of staying away from that. But it's very safe to say to Sean Watson is not going to play quarterback for the Houston Texans, this fault and Tyrod. Taylor looks like will be the week 1 Starter in Houston. Now they did draft, the Stanford quarterback Davis Mills, and the third round. The first pick in the third round. He could play later in the year, but I expect Tyrod Taylor to start a lot of games in Houston. He's their Guy moving forward, until we get further notice, and unfortunately, Houston's going to lose a ton of games. I mean Tyrod Taylor can do his very best. They're just an awful awful franchise awful football team they went for a walk last year that was with DeShaun Watson playing incredibly. Well by the way, the Sean Watson their quarterback last year had like an mvp-caliber year and it was so bad around, me couldn't overcome that. Now they're taking a step backward to Tyrod Taylor guy who's not as good at quarterback, even lower expectations. But still, I think it's I feel bad for Tyrone Taylor cuz it's like a missed opportunities. A guy who's a starting quality core birth, Who I thought the one time in Buffalo, he had something going, they, they didn't want him and they replaced my Josh Allen. Who Josh Allen has Justified that move but it's like man, I it's still like, oh dang man. Tie rod really got the short end of the stick. He's never been in this great moment with a good team around him and I really would be curious to see what happened with Tyrod Taylor. If he ever did get him on that like that he'd never be amazing but he certainly is not the absolute worst quarterback in the NFL. So Tyrod. Taylor number six is Lions quarterback Jared Goff He got traded to Detroit. I do not love Jared Goff. In La always believed that his head coach. Sean McVay did the heavy lifting me Jared Goff did some good stuff. He certainly is capable. He's got a great arm but Sean McVay in his ears every single play, Sean McVay, you can talk over the headset, new your quarterback until a little bit left in the play clock. And so regularly, the Rams were snap the ball early in the play clock before before. Stopping they got cut off from talking to Jared Goff meaning, man, there are a lot of moments where Sean McVay is telling Jared Goff where to look what to do. Baby sitting right. And he's losing that. And I would say that the success Jared Goff had was more to do with coaching and more to do with Sean McVay than it was to do with Jared Goff. I mean, there's a reason the Rams got rid of him. Don Matthew Stafford. Do I think is much better couldn't win in Detroit? I don't know why you would go. Oh the better quarterback. Couldn't do it in Detroit. Let's be more confident in Jared Goff. It's hard to find a lot of confidence for the lions with Jared Goff and you do realize the Rams had two package Jared with two first-round, picks to offload him to get rid of him and to get rid of that big contract, he had so, while I admit, I am, I'm very, very skeptical of Jared Goff I said good coaching did help Jared Goff in the past and the Lions do have some good coaching their offensive coordinator. Anthony Lynn is a guy who failed as a head coach and off but he really really helped Justin Herbert last year. Justin Herbert got way way better in a transition from college football to professional football. And I give a lot of credit to that to Anthony Lynn. The guy coaching them up. I mean, I think Anthony Lynn deserves a ton of credit for Justin Herbert winning the Rookie of the Year last year. He's the unsung hero that nobody talked about the guy that helped Justin improve. Now, also the lines have a quarterback coach Mark Brunell, who is a former NFL quarterback? A guy who played Seventeen years from 1994 to 2011 Mark Brunell loves football, he's the best quarterback in the Jacksonville Jaguars franchise history will see if Trevor Lawrence can break that that be kind of interesting kind of cool to see but having Mark Brunell there is also a cool person to have working with Jeff off a guy who has done the job before he's been in the room loves football. Very clearly he would, there's no way after Seventeen years in the NFL playing quarterback, he needs to coach, I may be awful financially but I think he's a guy who loves football. Now, the lines are rebuilding. I wish they had some more offensive weapons, they did draft tackle, Pinette Sewell to protect Jared Goff. They also have TJ Hawkinson, a guy who was a full tight end last year. Like there's not nothing around Jared Goff and I don't have a lot of confidence in him. I'm not like gonna pound the table and say Jared Goff is going to be great next year. But it's certainly not hopeless either like there is a there's a shot here that with good coaching and sometime this could work. I'm not real confident as a reason for six on my list but there's a shot Jared Goff does really, really well in Detroit. Number five, Teddy Bridgewater. He got traded from Carolina to the Denver Bronco. He's the new Broncos quarterback and there is a guy behind Teddy Bridgewater, Drew lock a guy who was played and started a number of games for the Denver Broncos. But Denver traded for Teddy Bridgewater because they are desperate for good quarterback play. Frankly, they don't seem to care where it comes from whether it's Drew, lock or Teddy, Bridgewater dead. They'll take it from anybody that the Broncos want a good quarterback, they've got a great roster, they're ready to win. And remember once upon a time myself and many other people believed that Teddy Bridgewater, Was going to be the Minnesota Vikings, and and was, in fact the Minnesota Vikings franchise quarterback. Remember things used to were going very, very well. A couple of years ago in 2014. Teddy, Bridgewater was the first round pick. And then the next year in 2015, they went 11:00 and 5 like things were rolling. Teddy was playing. Well, he was the man and then he hurt his knee. Had this horrific awful knee injury. Teddy did not play at all in 2016. Played in one game in 2017. And then he bounced around the league for a while. We went to the New York Jets sat behind Sam darnold, then New Orleans behind Drew Brees, got a shot to be a starter and Carolina. Now a lot of 16 in the NFL depends on the situation around. You do you have a good coach? Do you have good teammates? Do you have helped quarterbacks need help? Every single quarterback in the NFL need some help to win. Remember Tom Brady at people saying that he was washed up in 2019 the cliff is awful. Well twenty twenty last year Tom Brady went to Tampa Bay wins a Super Bowl first year. So very clearly quarterbacks need help. That's undebatable by the way. Remember when Matt Schaub? One thing led the league in passing yards back job in 2009 had nearly 5,000 yards passing laws So unexpected things can happen. Kurt Warner led the Cardinals to a Superbowl late in his career they lost the Super Bowl but it was an incredible run was like Wow! Hey look a team that's got a package roster got the right quarterback made a big run. And so sometimes it all does come together where a guy lands on the right spot. A lot of help around him and does the unexpected Denver is loaded, the Denver Broncos, have a ton of talent everywhere offense-defense skill players. It's ridiculous. And so this is the best opportunity. Teddy Bridgewater is ever going to get for him to show. Hey, here's what could have been Minnesota Vikings fans. Might watch this year and go, what could I heartbroken for? What could have been, maybe not. I don't know. I can teach you to read on it. Remember said he's had a lot of opportunities. But was the Jets really a great opportunity. He was never the guy New Orleans he wanted a shot to be the starting quarterback. I think if Drew Brees had retired before last year Teddy might have stayed in New Orleans but he's like now I want to be a starting quarterback so we left to got a big deal and Carolina Carolina is decent but he's certainly going to have a better roster in Denver and I am telling you. If there's ever going to be a shot for Teddy, Bridgewater to do what we thought he was going to do back in 2015 when you went 11:00 and 5 and was doing so well with the Minnesota Vikings, this is the shot for Teddy. Bridgewater to have kind of a Redemption story. A cool Ark to showing could have been There's a shoddy pops off. I don't know if he's going to succeed, but it's very possible. Teddy Bridgewater makes me regret not ranking him higher on this list. My number for quarterback is Sam darnold. And I'll be honest, I debated whether or not to put Sam darnold, ahead of Teddy, Bridgewater the Denver Broncos, have a great roster, like I went back and forth on this ultimately home, I realized. Well, Sam darnold. Has literally replaced Teddy. Bridgewater twice two different times. Remember Teddy Bridgewater was Sam darnold's, back up in New York, on the Jets and then this year, Carolina traded Teddy away and literally replaced Teddy with Sam darnold. So multiple times to NFL franchises were chosen Sam darnold over. Teddy. Okay, I trust that I believe that. Not to mention member, Teddy. Bridgewater is older. He's had more opportunities on more teams to show us. He's a great quarterback. Now, Sam darnold, who is twenty-four years old? Turned twenty-four in June. Like, he's, he's literally younger than Joe burrow, despite the fact that he's played in the NFL for two more years than a girl. Sam darnold. Has had a brutal NFL career to this point. He said, no, help a bad roster around him. A bad coach, helping him. And it is really, really hard to be good when you're surrounded by so much bad. It is just especially if you're a young quarterback, just being sucked down into the abyss. I would argue that Sam darnold. Has never ever been given a real shot to do well in the NFL until now, the Carolina Panthers traded for me. Again, twenty-four years old South Carolina, he's finally going to get some support and more importantly, some stability, some people who are competent running the team. I, the Carolina Panthers do not have the best roster in the NFL. We'll talk about that in a moment. But he's going to get a good owner. David Tepper, a good coach, Matt rhule a guy who turned around Temple turned around Baylor. Now he's working on turning around the Carolina Panthers They're getting an awesome offensive coordinator. Sorry they have a great offense of coordinator Joe. Brady remember Joe Brady couple of years ago is the coach who helped Joe burrow go from a nobody else was probably like going to be. It was projected to be like a seventh-round pick. And with the help of Joe Brady at LSU in college, Joe burrow went from nobody to a superstar Heisman Trophy, winner number and overall pick the quarterback we see today. Now again, a lot of that is cuz Joe workers but off, but it certainly helps in you got a good coach. So now Sam darnold, has that coach? Oh sweet. Great ownership. Great coach. Great offensive coordinator, helping the Panthers, have some solid Talent. They have Christian, McCaffrey running back and get you out of the backfield really, really well too, but Hubbard they drafted this year DJ Moore is an underrated receiver. They have Dan Arnold, a sneaky good receiving today and go watch, Dan Arnold highlights. Didn't have a lot of cats would have a couple of catches in Arizona, recently. Where like, oh my gosh, this guy's an underutilized Talent. I'm excited to watch him and Carolina. Now, I am all in. I truly believe the Panthers, got their franchise quarterback and they did it for a bargain. They got a great deal, they traded a second-round pick for Sam darnold, a couple late, round picks and next year's NFL draft and the impact of getting a new team, a chance to reset your career. To play Under good leadership. Team are going to see a different Sam darnold in 20 21 this fall and I am so excited. I fully believe I cannot wait to watch. Sam darnold, play this year in Carolina. My number three quarterback has moved to a new team. Is Ryan Fitzpatrick. He signed to be the quarterback in Washington. And it's pretty amazing what? Perception can do perception is at age. Remember 2018 Ryan Fitzpatrick had an incredible run where he he put up massive numbers was doing crazy. Good stuff in Tampa Bay, that's where he got the nickname fitzmagic when you're like oh my gosh and the Buccaneers I'm back and forth between Ryan Fitzpatrick. Jameis Winston in the end they said well, hey, Ryan song your old dude, we're going to stick with Jameis Winston for another year and we're going to with the younger guy who we. We drafted. Number one overall pick. We're going to stick with the younger more appealing option than the same agent quarterback. Despite the fact he did some good stuff, we're going to move on. That was 2018 or 2019, two years ago, he played really well for the Miami Dolphins, but he's old. He's thirty-eight years old, he'd done the good stuff. He did in 2015 to 2019 to 24 years old. He'd be viewed. As a franchise quarterback, people would be building their team around. Ryan Fitzpatrick. The problem is this a guy who was a late bloomer man. He picked very, very late in life career. And so Miami, drafted to a, it's a we're going to drop to a tunnel below and number five, overall build around this guy cuz sorry, buddy. Your old you gotta. We gotta get our quarterback of the future and Miami. Keep trying to make two of the guy, remember at the right after the bye week, they made two other starting quarterback. The problem was so late in games and key moments. They would take two out of it, and they'd go back to Ryan Fitzpatrick, they kept putting in Ryan Fitzpatrick that they trusted, who pretty clearly. They thought gave them the best opportunity to win games in closed tight moment. And so I have no doubt. Ryan Fitzpatrick would never say this, he's too gracious and I think frankly want to cause trouble he would never say this but I would imagine he was at least at midnight a little bit annoyed with the way that Miami just would not commit to him and were back and forth until any he gets it. Like they drafted to weather going to go with him but he took me he didn't want to be the starting quarterback. And sometimes, all they quarterback needs. It's for a team to commit to them. That is why this marriage between Ryan Fitzpatrick and Washington is so perfect, this Washington football team. They made the playoffs last year off even though they never really had a true starting quarterback. Last year, Washington, had four different starting, quarterbacks play for them. They had Dwayne Haskins, Kyle Allen Allen Smith end of the playoffs. Just started a guy Taylor henneke you and played quarterback for them all year as the starting quarterback and Taylor henneke, by the way, did shockingly well against Tampa but to have four different starting quarterbacks in a playoff run, it's absurd. That doesn't happen. You don't have a team that goes to the playoffs without a starting quarterback. So all Washington needed was a quarterback. Commit to, and all Ryan Fitzpatrick needed was a team that would commit to him off. And when you think about it, Washington should be the favorite to win the NFC East this year. They won it last year, even though they didn't even really have a true starting quarterback like who's birthday in Washington as far as just the base roster. Dallas New York, Philly know Washington was a playoff team last year. They were so good. They did it without a quarterback. Now, they have a quarterback who, I mean Ryan Fitzpatrick could be amazing next year, but even if he's not, if he's stable and solid, that's a Washington needs the Washington football. Team doesn't care if Ryan Fitzpatrick as their franchise quarterback future. They want a guy to help them win playoff games and make a run and fitzmagic Fitzpatrick is the guy if it's magic, whatever you want to call him. I think Ryan Fitzpatrick is going to bring their best out of this young Washington roster. He's a good leader. He's a veteran. I am really, really excited to watch him and I'm very confident, it's going to go well in Washington. Number to Carson, Wentz, Carson, Wentz got traded from Philly to the Colts. Remember he was bad last year in Philly, not good, it was inaccurate. I made a lot of bad decisions, the team around and broke down, but Carson did the thing you just can't do. He allowed the problems around him to bring him down? He's off playing hero, ball trying to be Superman making throws that were forced and not there and making bad decisions holding out in the ball too long. Playing some really bad football, he got benched he lost his job and home. I mean I can't defend it, he deserved it. but now, Carson Wentz is on a new team, And I have covered this a ton. I feel, I keep retreading like, hey, the Colts Carson Wentz, but the Colts are a really, really good team that made the playoffs last year. And I think the upgrade at quarterback, they just needed to be Philip Rivers. Retired, was he forced into retirement or not? I don't know. Feels like the Colts went got their guy but they needed a quarterback Carson's their guy and get her in 2017. Carson Wentz had an amazing year Now, he got hurt and week 14 with three games left, in the regular season. And when Carson Wentz got hurt in 2017 at the time he was the top candidate to win the NFL league MVP, he was doing that well known nobody else on my list of the top seven quarterbacks that have changed teams this offseason. None of those guys have ever even come close to winning an MVP Carson Wentz. Is that talented that ridiculously good job done, that much stuff in the NFL and in 2017, the year that Carson Wentz had that incredible year, Frank Reich was as offensive coordinator will. Now the, the amazing has happened in 2021 this fall. They've been reunited. Frank Reich, is the head coach of the Indianapolis Colts? Carson is his quarterback. You went out and got Carson. That's how it feels to me. Like go get me. My guy said to his general manager, Chris Ballard. And I think the Colts have potential to win a Superbowl. May not be this year. It could be next year, but they got a great coach. They've got a quarterback, I'm really confident and they got a great defense and offensive line there on the ball really well t. Y Hilton's at receiver like I have high high expectations from Carson Wentz and the Colts this fall in 2021. I only drink some water will build up to number one. So number one, the quarterback who is going to a new team that I am most confident in is Matthew Stafford. This is cool stuff right now. Really, really cool seeing those were going on. You have Carson Wentz reuniting with his Old Coach. That's something you can't really even expect to ever happen. That's very, very cool. And then you have Matthew Stafford being rescued, from Detroit. Now, Matthew Stafford can have a cool Final Chapter in his career. I I thought he was going to just be buried in Detroit forever. Very, very unfortunate. And I have more confidence in Matthew Stafford than Carson, Wentz, because Carson Wentz is coming off a bad year, making bad decisions. He allowed the team to pull him down Matthew, Stanford never did that Matthew Stafford, never allowed the Detroit Lions to pull him down. He was a bright shining star in a dark abyss. I would say that he was a, a brake lining star in a black hole, but a black hole is a dying Stars. That's a whole convoluted thing, or even going to go, but he was the only bright spot. In a really, really bad franchise for years. I remember Matthew Stafford as a number one overall pick in 2009. And the year before the Lions drafted him in 2008, they went oh and sixteen. They were awful and they've been awful forever about three different head coaches. They rebuild the three different times around Matthew Stafford off. The One Time, by the way, the lines had a pretty good thing going. Jim Caldwell New to the playoffs two times. And three years, like, hey, things are looking up. Detroit got greedy and found fired the guy. I still to this day, will never understand why the Lions fire Jim Caldwell. I'll never get it. It's like they didn't appreciate the good thing they had going off. I don't know what. It's just. It's idiocy and it cannot be Quantified how hard it is to overcome the stink of a bad franchise working for a bad boss. Bad ownership with bad decision, making Matthew Stafford did everything he could. But now after 12 years, he doesn't have to go through that abuse anymore. He's been rescued, he's thirty-three years old member, Tom Brady still playing at 43. Big Bend is 39, still playing Drew Brees just retired at forty, two young man. Matthew Stafford's is not to play as nearly as long as Tom Brady, but he could play Still for like five, six, seven, maybe eight more years so it's cool for them to have another chapter of his career. A Redemption opportunity to say hey, that was awful. But let me show you what I can really do when I get some help. So now he's getting paired. Matthew Stafford is with the Rams, head coach, Sean McVay, oh boy, I loved it so much. Matthew Stafford is much better than the Rams, former quarterback, Jared Goff and member. Sean McVay went to a Superbowl with Jared Goff like he made that work so well. They got to a Superbowl. Now so remember Sean McVay was in the head set of Jared Goff all the time kind of babysitting helping him. Hey hey, look at the safety coming down, they snap the ball early in the play cock. Always always helping the Young quarterback. Now, Sean McVay has a veteran quarterback. We can trust who he doesn't need to babysit. I'm sure for him, he's like, Hallelujah. He's so glad to be paired with Matthew Stafford and where Jerry golf held them back. Matthew, Stafford can carry them forward. They upgraded at quarterback. They got a guy who's incredibly talented, who finally, for the first time ever doesn't have to carry a horrible, horrible franchise. The Rams are another team, one of these teams that making this move, puts them in the conversation for a Superbowl. The Colts Washington is interesting. I think they're a playoff team, the Rams, they upgraded member. I mean, I have, I have High Hopes. I'm very, very confident in Matthew Stafford and Rams jersey, but you realize the Rams with 10:00 and 6 last year, they were a playoff team with the best defense in football. They've got a great head coach and now they've upgraded at quarterback, the Rams are scary. I am very very excited about it's Matthew. Stafford, baseball play in LA. All right, guys, I'm going to take a short break when I return. We'll talk about the NBA Finals. N'keal, Harry wants a trade. That's interesting. Some baseball stuff. I got a couple baseball stories, that'll be really, really fun. Baseball. Men is really, I, I played MLB the show and I've been really into baseball recently, will do ask Zack down the road. And at the very end. I got a phone interview with my buddy Marcell Frazier, He was coaching in the European League of football for the Barcelona dragons. My name is Akshay omlor. I'm going to take a short break. I will be right back. Oh right, we are back over doing very, very well. I want to say two things before I jump into the NBA Finals. Number one, someone a while back asked me off might, like, advice for staying up all night working and like what I do and how I pull off all nighters. Honestly, I guess there's a thing. I've been doing recently For Better Or I've been really challenging myself recently watching a ton of film like really pushing myself to work a lot as much as I can but also trying to balance quality and is this is not a sponsor nothing like this but you know it's like really good. Is the Coca-Cola coffee vanilla flavor that stuff like I think I need sugar like the the black tea is just kind of odd. It stopped being as effective, but man, the Coca-Cola coffee two of those baby. You got like, six seven more hours the night. I mean, you can just pound and just keep going and going to go. And so I thought number one. Number two, The Dustin Poirier Conor McGregor fight was gosh. It's 5:33 a.m. So it was last night, I didn't watch the fight, it's not my thing. I don't I'm not a big Combat Sports guy to each their own people. Love it. Good for you. I'm glad you have that long, but I, I want to say, I really, really was impressed with Dustin Poirier and the way he conducted himself after the fight. So, in case you don't know, Conor McGregor broke his ankle in the first round right at the end. It was a very weird fight cuz you didn't really get a good outcome. It was just a very like the little I know it's like that's a weird fight. But Dustin Poirier mean, regular is Crazy and loud. And you know how if you follow Sports all you know how he is and who he is and what he does. And Connor is sitting there with a broken ankle doing this thing. Running, his mouth being his loudmouth. Crazy self and Dustin Poirier was so classy. I, I don't know anything about Dustin Poirier at all. I've never I've heard his name, but I've never watched them fight. I don't know the guy at all, nothing, not no familiarity with him at all, but the answer is he gave both in the ring in the press conferences, afterwards, like, he's above at all. I mean, he really doesn't care about the, the sideshow, I mean, Conor McGregor really famous because of not only his style and fighting ability, but because he plays to the crowd, he likes to sit up and it's very like, you know, rod and talks a lot of smack and Dustin. Poirier has like, nah. Nah, can really do that. Like very straightforward. Matter of fact, I'm going to fight him again. I hope he gets home to his family safe. Like you can talk all this trash but you know, talking about murdering me in the ring and sent me home in a coffin, the cat crosses a line. And he's like, I'm really not into this side of it. I'm here to fight off. Play Care by doing interviews. Like I love the way Dustin, Poirier communicates. I really just, I encourage you. You may not like fighting. I certainly am not a fighting fan at all. I'm not, I've never watched like, two UFC fights, my life. I watched Cowboy Conor McGregor, that's like pretty much it but I whether you like fighting or not, I recommend you should go look up some of the interview answers that Dustin, Poirier gave after that fight, I walked away very impressed. Just I want a stand-up guy. That's the the way he came across was classy and respectful both to the sport and the Conor McGregor and to himself. I just was like, man, that's a dude who is That's a man. I mean I wish I had a better way to put it like rather than being the tough guy talking smack and posturing, he just like very, very comfortable laid. Boundaries for myself, was respectful to Connor. I just was blown away. I'm like, wow, this is a, that's a real man right there. Who just handled that incredibly incredibly well? Okay, let's shift gears to the NBA finals. My lighting has been all over the place. It's been like I think it's settling down now. I think I'm going to Auto exposure and it's been off-and-on. You know, this whole segment. Let's jump into the NBA off after the first two games of the NBA Finals, the Phoenix Suns lead the series, two games, to zero in game when they beat the, Bucs 118 2105 and a game to the sun scored 118,000 again, this time in game one and game too. They 118 2108 very similar scores similar games in some respects game one and game to game. 3 of the NBA Finals is going to be really, really, really important. Because at this point after watching game one and two, it's really hard to imagine. Milwaukee beating Phoenix. I mean, the sun's look so good and so dominant and it's not entirely hopeless. There is a I'm gonna lay out a path of what Milwaukee can do to beat Phoenix. Release, get competitive with Phoenix, but we're just at a point where the NBA finals are in danger of becoming a blow up. I mean, they really have to make some changes in Milwaukee. And I guess that's a big question is, will Milwaukee, do what it takes to make this series competitive? Really gonna make the adjustments, it's going to require, you know, Milwaukee made a big adjustment in game. There was one thing I did that was really impressive already. They did a better job defending the sun's pick-and-roll fighting through screens meeting the ball-handler at the free throw line challenging shots either. You know, forcing guys like Chris Paul Devin Booker to pull up and make contested shots. They often did, but I'd say that's better or forcing, you know, kick out passes, which unfortunate, For Milwaukee, Phoenix has knocked down a bunch of Threes in game. Two, they they were 2440 shooting threes, I mean to hit 20, 3-pointers eight of them, the first quarter long as I just, I mean, hey, the sunset, a great night shooting. Now, the biggest thing Milwaukee needs to do though is they need to have Jrue Holiday and khris Middleton. Step Up Drew holiday really struggled in game morning game to shooting missing open shots, even missing layups like stuff. That's just not good. Offensive basketball You mean the guy only had 10 points in game one and then Chris Middleton struggling game to a lot. He was 5 / 16, she wouldn't lie eleven points. And Jonas needs help Mandy to time MVP. Yiannis dude, put up 42 points in game two, and I got to say, I was worried about his ankle or nothing. Listen. These are you, the hyper Xfinity. I was worried about sneaking into the serious, you know? It's a Conor McGregor brought a vehicle that's on my mind to. So yon is hyper-extended his knee in the Eastern Conference Finals and like, oh no, this is going to be a, a big story line. You know what makes me on is so great, this is athletic ability, he can do anything you want inside and what, he's not very mobile and my worry very, very quickly went away in game one. When Yiannis ran down a McHale Bridges layup and blocked it from behind you know the bronze Style just like an NBA Finals a couple of years ago. And it was just like, man, wow, Janos moving really, really well and, you know, a limping occasionally, but for the most rare like, okay, Jonas is healthy enough like he can compete. He's getting so many buckets inside. But again, like Yiannis is nowhere near the problem for Milwaukee. He needs help, he needs Jrue Holiday to step up. He needs khris. Middleton to step up. Drew a line is given a good effort on defense but offensively like ten points in game one, missing layups. Missing that, you know, open shots, you have to deliver and right now, what Milwaukee is giving from there? Two and three player right now, Chris Middleton through holiday, it's not enough on offense. Now, game one and game, two were in Phoenix. The crowd was unbelievable. I wish I could have been there like, really cool atmosphere, anytime you honestly shooting free throws. I mean, they're doing the 1,000 to 3 counting, you know, up to, you know, the the second it's taking you on a suit the free-throw and Jonas had an air ball or two. And I the series. Now going to take a shift from Phoenix to Milwaukee game, three and four are in Milwaukee. Then I would imagine that's going to give Milwaukee a boost help, their team played better. Give them a like, lift them up a little bit to not play against a really hostile crowd on the road. Now look, The Narrative really has to be though. Can Milwaukee make this interesting? Can they make it a series at all? But, but I gotta say game-winning game to confirmed my belief. Like, if you asked me, hey Zack, who's going to win? It's, it's Phoenix. I mean, they're up to games to nothing for a reason, and I, I very much believe. Phoenix, Suns. A good win, the NBA Finals. Let's see if Chris Middleton steps up. Let's see if Drew holiday does better and often. So let's see if they can make a couple of weeks, but right now like the obvious favorite has to be Phoenix. They took place so so so well together. I love watching the Phoenix Suns, it's fun basketball. They're bald movement their help defense the way the communicate there to play in game, two, where they, they had 10 passes in one play where, you know, leading up to a DeAndre ayton and one for a three-point play, they passed the ball ten times in one possession within a 24 second shot cock and you're like my goodness and it was competitive like Milwaukee's doing their best and its efforts high. But it's I I just think the sons their, their chemistry of the way they play together is dead. Be the deciding factor here, they're outclassing Milwaukee by far. From a chemistry standpoint. DeAndre ayton was a big presence in game one. He had 22 points. 19 rebounds was not as big, a presence in game two, but a game to Michael Bridges was that number three, you know, you always have Chris, Paul and Devin Booker as the two best players in Phoenix. But then who's going to be the third guy on what given birth mikal Bridges was a third guy in game two. We had 29 points in the second game of the series. And like I can't say enough how fun it is to watch this team. Phoenix is just a blast. It's such high-level basketball, you have Chris Paul at the point guard position. 36 years old, does not look, thirty-six years old and it was pretty cool. When we drew holiday was guarding him. He changed his game but there was a moment where Drew holiday backed off was guarding Devin Booker instead. And Chris Paul said, oh, I got a mismatch. It's I don't have the best kind of enemy so he was just being way more aggressive taking shots like, okay, I'm going to make your holiday on me. I'm going to pull up every time and the mid-range jumper for Chris Paul CP3. It's unreal, but it's fade. Away is beautiful. He had 32 points and gave Chris Paul did. And then you have Devin Booker, who look when I watch Devin Booker, All I see is work ethic and preparation. It's it's so obvious that you gets after the same way and I kind of understand why Stephen A Smith took that comment a while back saying like he's the next Kobe Bryant. Here's what I think really that means is when you watch Devin Booker you see a guy who his ball-handling his jump shot. I was mastered a skill set and is so good in a one-on-one isolation setting and he clearly has just done so much work in the offseason preparing. Tirelessly. And when you watch Kobe the preparation showed you went. Yeah. Oh this guy must shoot a bazillion shots in the offseason. This guy must be constantly working his ball-handling and all kinds of stuff and you get the same feeling when you watch Devin Booker's. This is a guy who's incredibly well-prepared, who just works like a dog to get ready every season in the offing. And and Devin Booker also has an edge that a guy like Chris Middleton just doesn't have Chris Middleton is just really talented scorer in Milwaukee but he's just he's not on all the time. He's very streaky Devin Booker is so he can create any shot, he wants anytime he wants and he just does crazy stuff. He has layups where he goes off over and under. And you know, I forgot the word is called there like a, you know, around the world layups like in the air this double-clutch it's beautiful and they you know another example of deviled eggs or just being a stud like having this edge of this is my game, I'm going to do whatever I want. He had a really long 3-pointer with Brook Lopez a 7-footer fog in his face and just like nothing nothing but net, it was beautiful. Like oh my goodness, that's a guy who Chris Milton doesn't have that, that kind of edge that kind of birth. Just, you know, the ability to I've heard. I've heard Charles Barkley talk about having the ability to step on someone's neck, and be the Finish there when you need to Devin Booker, has that, like, he can put the nail in the coffin and Thursday. It's so impressive, to watch this guy and his shop making abilities unreal. I love watching Devin Booker. Now, you know, the Bucks are going to try. It's it's really, really hard to see Milwaukee beating Phoenix though and game to Jana said 20 points in the third quarter. That's the most points ever for a player in a single quarter in NBA finals history and it didn't even make a dent. I mean, Phoenix was in game one. They led by 20 points late in the third quarter, right near the end and frankly Milwaukee is still too undisciplined Milwaukee makes random passes, the bad shots, lazy moves. It's almost like sometimes, Milwaukee doesn't realize, hey, you're playing in the NBA Finals. So you can't like, you can't screw around here that it's just a it's a lackadaisical nature that makes you. It's very bizarre. And I almost wonder, if does Milwaukee need a better Coach? Like, What's Happening Here is Mike budenholzer, not saying, hey, we gotta correct these mistakes. We can't be making that pass. We can't be just blatantly missing easy layups. We can't be throwing the ball, the way here we can't be lazy or not. Going after the ball, not closing out like it's little things in Milwaukee, is so bad at like, they're so bad. At the fine detail. That's gotta be coaching, right? Like, you see not pointing these things out or they not listening to him, I just bought Milwaukee makes so many bad plays that. It, just you have to wonder what point do you blame coaching for not cleaning up those little things? I don't know man. I think Phoenix is going to win the title. I would be shocked if they didn't but it is interesting like can Milwaukee make it interesting. It is also worth noting Dario Sarge. The sun's forward towards a c l a game one. Interesting, it's sad, really? It's brutal. But I'm I feel so bad like season over game. 1 of the NBA Finals, just you're done for the year. Awful for him. I just feel so bad for them. Storage. But again, the question remains, what's going to happen? Game 3 is must-win from Milwaukee. They have to deliver you, you cannot allow you go down three games to nothing. It's over. It is over. This is a must-win game from Milwaukee and we'll see. Like can Milwaukee make things interesting in the NBA finals? Or is it going to be a sweep or a gentleman Sweep game? 3 is massively important. It's tonight in the NBA Finals. All right, guys, my name is Zach shomler. I'm going to take a short break when I return. We'll talk about baseball, then we'll talk about Nicole. He asked for a trade in New England, then later with the form of the one, ask Zack. And then at the end of the show will do an interview with my buddy Marcell. Frazier, he is a former NFL player. I would high school, then I love this guy is one of my favorite humans in the world. I just, I love the guy man. He's coaching right now and professional football. So we'll do a Marcell Frazier interview at the end of the show off. I recorded a couple of days ago, wearing a different shirt. Like you'll be like, oh, that's a different shirt. They clearly had happened on it every day, but nonetheless, it's a really, really fun. Really interesting interview hearing his exploits and his stories life coaching professional football. My name is Jack, Shaw murder. I'm going to take a short break. I will be right back. All right, we are back open doing very very well. I gotta be honest man, I have been getting really really in a baseball recently like I went to my buddies house. We played dead, they'll be the show, the video game and it made me really want to watch baseball. I've been craving baseball ever since that and I've been following what's going been going on? And I got a couple little topics I want to share. I think number one. If you follow baseball at all, then you see shohei, ohtani literally everywhere. And you see what he's been, he's been on a tear to the MLB recently. It's pretty unbelievable at the time of recording. He's playing today. I think he struck out against the Mariners so we'll see you at 6 and later the game at the time of recording. Right now though he's hit thirty three home runs this year. He leads Major League Baseball, With the most home runs all year, that's unbelievable and of itself. I mean, it's crazy. Here's a list. I'm going to make it. I'm going to say a crazy long list of days where these are the days recently. Where he's at home runs, June, 15th, June 16th, June 18th. Yeah, two home runs June 19th. 20th 25th. 2728 on June 29th, I do home runs on July 2nd, he had to walk home runs July 4th, you had a home run, July 7th at home run, July 9th at home, run, it's ridiculous. Like dude, this guy is unbelievable. We're two games from the All-Star break and he's hitting a homerun almost every night recently. You're like well, okay then, so that's already by itself, crazy. Like he's back in eighty-two games this year hit thirty three home runs that's like 40% of his games hitting a homerun. But here that's crazy about shohei Otani. The most absurd thing. I'm going to say, not only does he lead Major League Baseball in hitting home runs, but he's also pitched in six, seven innings. He struck out 87 batters, he's a starting pitcher. Oh, yeah. And he's leading baseball hitting home runs and when he's not pitching by the way, he still in the line of every night as a designated hitter, it's really cool. Maybe, by the way, be such a shame. If you played in the National League, where you didn't have designated hitters and you couldn't hit every night, but doesn't line up every single day and this is unicorn type of stuff. Where I mean Babe Ruth or Bo Jackson, Bo Jackson was a unicorn. Totally unique. Just something you'll never ever see again in your lifetime. Like a mythical creature where you know in 1989 Bo Jackson played in Major League Baseball, he had 32 home and had a hundred and five RBIs. Then later that fall only played running back for the Raiders and he averaged 5.5 yards-per-carry. Bo Jackson in nineteen eighty-nine was an All-Star in Major League Baseball, the next year in nineteen ninety. He got named to the Pro Bowl in the NFL. That's ridiculous by later in that year, nineteen ninety before we could actually play in the Pro Bowl, believe was January 13th. 1991 the 1990 season. The playoffs, the series is a divisional round of the NFL playoffs. He dislocated hip the same injury that to actually had and ended his NFL career, but Bo Jackson is one of those guys that you're just never going to see ever again. A guy who literally you could argue could have been a Hall of Famer in and maybe I don't actually know. Is he a Hall of Famer either sport? I don't know. He had the talent. Definitely To be a a Hall of Famer in Major League Baseball. And the NFL someone let me know, I would imagine it played long enough to become a hall of fame or any other sport, but somebody out there knows that. And by the way, if you ever seen the video, Bo Jackson dead throwing a guy down at third base from right field, where he catches a Fly ball in right field and then totally flat-footed launches a missile from right field all the way to Third Base off and throws out a guy trying to tag up. And you're like, that's unbelievable again, that's I call it unicorn stuff. So, if you're never going to see ever again, ridiculous things to have that level of baseball talent, and not be an incredible running. Back in the NFL, And shohei. Otani is a guy like that to a guy that is doing stuff. You're just never going to see ever again in your lifetime. It's a once-in-a-lifetime completely unique player. That is what shohei Otani is. Ellen other day. He had a home, run hit 463 feet up into the upper upper upper deck of the Seattle Mariners Stadium like the fourth row literally and I grew up watching Mariners games my whole life. I, you know, from when I was like seven years old like thirteen, I stopped being a Mariners fan at thirteen years old, I gave up on that franchise. That's a whole different story but I watched when it's seven, my six years, just in a row every day, every night with my grandpa watching Mariners games during the summer, And I have never seen a home run, like that that went that far that high in Seattle. And Monday night. By the way, we are getting a treat Monday night. We have the Home Run Derby. It's Monday June 12th on ESPN. That's on net. 8, p.m. eastern Time, 5 p.m. Pacific time. But here's the cool thing about the Home Run Derby on Monday, the All-Star Game. Therefore also the homerun derby, guess where it is. It's in Denver Colorado at Coors Field, Court course course. However, you say that there's some way. I don't, I don't drink beer actually, so make fun of me for that if you want. But in Denver, that's a place where God ball literally travels farther because of the elevation. And so, I personally cannot wait to watch shohei Otani. Hit home run off after a homerun in Denver in the Home. Run Derby on Monday. I expected to win. It's on Tuesday again. I recommend you watching it. It's going to be, I think a really, really special fun thing to watch. Just, I'm the kind of guy, I must not be the only person who watch. I just watch home, run compilations, I love watching a home run as a special fun, exciting thing. And I guess the story of the Home Run Derby is. I mean, the question is dead. Can anybody beat shohei ohtani? Like it would be a surprise. He's my favorite to win. It'd be a surprise if shohei ohtani did not win the homerun derby, but that's the intricate, that that's the draw. Let's see what happens. Be fine. By the way, the MLB All-Star game is on. Sorry. Well, that's a Tuesday. So Home Run Derby is on Monday, then on Tuesday, July 13th, the MLB All-Star Game happens. That's 7 p.m. eastern Time, 4 p.m. Pacific Time on ESPN. I recommend watching that too man. Major League Baseball has the best All-Star Game in South America, like the NBA Guys phone it in. There is no defense at all and the NFL, nobody really tries in the Pro Bowl because nobody wants to get hurt. But baseball, their All-Star game is interesting. It's competitive like, everybody plays and pictures by the way, only pitched, like one inning, so it's not everybody gets a shot. Everybody, you know, get in the game. And so you don't see like, a lot of people play for the whole game, but it's still the best in the world at baseball against the other guys that are the best in the world that baseball. And it's fun that match up the, the competitiveness, like I'll never forget the day, when was it 2006/2007? Cuz I think it was 2007, when Ichiro hit a inside the park homerun, take a weird bounce in, in San Francisco. The Giants ballpark getting AT&T park is what it's called. And I mean, I remember actually funny there's another Seattle connection there. Where what's his name? Ken? Griffey jr. I blank on names all the time. Ken Griffey jr. Was in right field, trying to feel the ball that Ichiro home. Like what, a weird, fun connection, and each others around, you know, inside the park homerun moments like that. I mean, this is real fun. Exciting competitive baseball, and it's the best guys in the world of what they do. And, you know, from from a baseball players mean they play, what? Like a hundred literally 162, regular-season games a year. What's one? More game? Like you can't give effort for two or three Innings when you play in the All-Star Game guys. Do think it's awesome. I just I gosh, I recommend you watch the MLB All-Star game if you've ever played baseball, if you ever like baseball before even you're not even, if you're not the biggest baseball fan, go watch the Major League Baseball, All-Star game, it's going to be awesome. I'm not sponsored by asking. Actually hate ESPN going on, I got some stuff behind the scenes. They won't pay me for work. I did and it's like, come on guys, but it's been a battle, by the way, I don't want defamation. I think we figured it out about if like a month away. Come on, guys. Like when we did the paperwork figured out. So I actually hate ESPN, dip to be clear, but I gotta watch the sports are so I got another cool story. I want to talk about, Thursday, a few days ago, July 8th. A relief pitcher for the San Diego Padres, Daniel Camarena. Was called up from Triple-A to play in the game and he had a Grand Slam in his second ever. Major League Baseball at that. Again, that day, got called up. I guess he'd been called up before in the past and the starting pitcher for the Padres. Yu Darvish had a really bad game. Gave up six runs in the first three, Innings. Just not his day. And so camera and it came in in the top of the fourth inning, as the relief, pitcher anybody, but he gave up two runs very quickly so the Padres were down eight to nothing. And in the bottom of the fourth inning, Camarena hit a grand slam. It's like oh my goodness of a Max Scherzer, by the way, that's that's impressive and so he gave up two runs pitching but then Daniel, Camarena made up for it and got you know he batted in four runs and it's so cool. This guy is a local kid. Camarena is a local kid grew up like 15 minutes from San Diego. Family was at the game. His dad was there. Got it? Almost made me cry mean. It did make me like feel, I didn't actually shed it here but my eyes welled up and you're like, right on the verge. When you watch his dad celebrate off when he hits a Grand Slam in that moment at home in San Diego is local team. Like, oh my gosh, it was really really cool to see like you could just see how proud and how happy his dad was that's a very special moment. I'm really close to my dad. But yeah his second-ever MLB At Bat. He hit a grand slam off a Max Scherzer and by the way he was down in the count. Oh and to he ended up there was like he had a ball and he didn't hit a grand, slam on the 02 town, but he was down at account at one point O and to it just ridiculous. I mean, the Padres went on to win the game 9. To 8 with a walk-off base, hit in the bottom of the night. They started down to nothing, then they 1928. And you're like, man, that's just an unbelievable fun story. There's just a lot of good stuff going on baseball. I saw the unfortunate Choice minutes ago, right before the All-Star break to really sad. Ronald Acuna Jr. Tore his ACL for the Braves that's unfortunate. But I look, I I can't cover baseball. It's like I talked about shohei ohtani today and how do you keep up? Because he's literally playing right now as I talk, man, I can't I just can't keep up with all that but I when I can I watch and and beige Gosh for all its problems, really does, it's a great sport. I I always say I struggle with Major League Baseball as a league like they have problems, they didn't really punish the Astros at all. Like I had a lot of Rob Manfred and and problems and things. I don't like of Major League Baseball. I do like adding a runner on second base in Extra Innings that I think has been phenomenal this year. But for all its shortcomings, it's still, you know, it's America's thing man, it's just a really cool sport, I grew up playing it. I think a lot of people in America, grew up playing it and I thought my goodness, I mean, again, for all the problems Major League Baseball has the sport of baseball itself. I'll, I'll watch literally baseball. I'll watch baseball in Japan and South Korea. I don't care. It's a wonderful Sport. And right now, really, I've been really into Major League Baseball and they've been delivering with really, really interesting fun stuff going on. I want to shift gears from Major League Baseball to the NFL. This is a story that I saw it and went, what like the audacity. Are you kidding me? So here's what happened. New England, Patriots, receiver. N'keal Harry Goss has formally requested a trade, as a former first-round pick. He was drafted, 32nd, overall in 2019 and unfortunately he's been a massive disappointment point in his career. He's just been so. So not what he needed to become. He was expected to become a number one receiver. In New England. It just hasn't happened. He 6 p.m. for twenty-three years old played in college at Arizona State, but has not at all delivered on what. I mean, his tape in college was good and he just hasn't worked out in New England. It's pretty baffling you know how bad the Patriots have been over the years at developing young receivers. So I I do wonder how much that plays A Part here. But I also, I would imagine that. The Patriots head coach, Bill Belichick heard this and just laughed. He went what, are you kidding? You you you're demanding a trade. You one out. The audacity like you want to be traded? I mean I just I can't imagine Bill Belichick didn't kind of scoff at that like you haven't done anything. This is like I remember in the mummy Jake Johnson, who is an actor I really like Jake Johnson played Nick in new girl, he's in Spider-Man into the spider-verse, got a great voice, sounds a lot like John by the way Listen to listen to Jake Johnson the actor and then listen to John Boy, if they sound the same it's it's hilarious. But this so Jake Johnson was in a movie The Mummy with Tom Cruise Co starring alongside Tom Cruise and imagine just imagine that Jake Johnson who is like an established actor. But I would say he's even more established in his field than to kill Harry is in his own, but imagine he was like, making demands left and right and causing all this these problems and it's like, God, hey, are you Tom Cruise? Oh, you're not, I'm sorry, shut up. Like you're, you're lucky to be here. Dude, you're lucky to be in this movie alongside Tom Cruise. N'keal Harry is lucky to be in New England. Playing for Bill Belichick. That's unfortunately or not depending on how you look at it. I mean, that that is a reality of the situation. In two years, nikhil Harry's played in twenty two games, 21 regular-season games. One postseason game, he only has 47 catches for 435 yards and four touchdown catches. That's nothing that's like half and two years. By the way, that's like half of what DK Metcalf in Seattle did just last year. Like that's had indicated in one season last year in Seattle, and they were drafted, by the way in the same draft class, and n'keal. Harry was drafted ahead of DK. Metcalf Now his agent didn't nickel Harry's agent. Put out a statement, the argument from nikhil Harry's Camp is that? Hey I've got an 88 Targets in two years and how can I put up good numbers if I'm not getting an opportunity to catch the ball? Okay. I I kind of understand like you can make that argument but also like, there's a reason you're not getting targeted either like you kind of have to. That's a very, very basic argument that is from a guy who probably the agent made that argument going. Hey, what's happening here? But there's a reason he's not getting thrown the ball, he's not kidding. Open. I mean n'keal, Harry could not make it work with Tom Brady. Now In fairness, he was hurt for half the year that he played the Tom Brady's rookie year. But Tom Brady mix every receiver better everyone. He's ever played with played their best when they played with Tom Brady. And even Tom Brady couldn't make n'keal Harry, look good that says a lot. I mean Tom Brady found a way to work with crazy man. Antonio Brown Antonio Brown's career was over off and Tom Brady said hey we're come here I'll make it work with you. Any manage them and dealt with this crazy man stuff and won a Superbowl and told her I truly believe the only quarterback in the NFL They could have made Antonio Brown work, last year is Tom Brady. Tom Brady, lose him and his kind to him and deals with this nonsense. You know, just kind of shepherds him and leads him along the way to winning a Superbowl. and so again it's very telling you couldn't make it work with Tom Brady that says something and there's a couple of things here. A couple of angles you can talk. I want to talk about number one is that the Patriots have no incentive to trade n'keal Harry like he Demands a trade and they go. Oh oh okay. Like, so why would they, why would they trade in Kill Harry? Yes, potential. So first you spend a first-round pick on him and you're still hoping is going to turn into something more than what he's done. I mean there are a lot of reports like maybe he won't make the team this year. But what's he worth like a seventh-round pick? I mean, I Bill Belichick a spiteful to Bill Belichick is not the kind of guy that's like let me help out this guy who's calling me out publicly. Now, Belichick doesn't roll that way. I don't think. And you could also make an argument everybody in Boston and want to perk up there and listen to us for a moment. It's a flawed argument but you could make the argument that n'keal Harry played a part in Tom, Brady wanting to leave just to here's a fun. What if what if what would have happened if n'keal Harry had been a star receiver? For Tom Brady to throw through the same way that Terry McLaurin is in Washington or DK? Metcalf is in Seattle. What if n'keal Harry had been incredible? Would Tom Brady have left it with a fun what if I mean Tom Brady seems way happier in Tampa. He's doing interviews, Howard Stern, the shop. It's pretty clear that he's been Unshackled and allowed himself much more in Tampa. then, when you played for Bill Belichick, that's undeniable But it's still a fun question to ask like what if n'keal Harry had been a star? One of Tom Brady had had a d k Metcalf level receiver to throw 2019 he didn't but would things have gone down the same way they did with Tom Brady have left. Remember in 2019 to kill. Harry was drafted ahead of DK, Metcalf AJ Brown, Terry McLaurin. Deonte Johnson in Pittsburgh and they each had better numbers last year alone. N'keal. Harry is put up in two years combined. In New England. No, I do got to say this here is who should make a move and trade for n'keal Harry. Will the trade happened? I don't know. But if I am in the Pittsburgh Steelers, A team who is historically, ridiculously good at developing young receivers, I mean, they take no name guys, and late-round draft picks and turn them into stock. I mean, that's what Antonio Brown was, Antonio Brown to the guy who they turned him into a star. After being drafted like what if like Toledo or a croissant like tiny school came out of nowhere, was a star dude Page James. There's so many James washed and there's so many guys, I don't someone else can compile that in fact actually hey, Devin from the here we go, show my buddy, Devon Devon. I want you to make a video game breaking down the success that Pittsburgh has had at developing young receivers and you know, they could fix n'keal Harry. They have done it in the past, they can take a guy who's really talented. And teach him how to be a great receiver. That's what I think. N'keal Harry needs and New England, just doesn't have. I think the skill set to make that happen. Now would New England, trade, n'keal Harry to Pittsburgh. That's unlikely. I don't think that would happen. They're not going to trade him to another team in their conference. The AFC, they could play Pittsburgh later and took us, why would they didn't want to play any kill, Harry down the road? But to kill Harry, go watch a film in college man, he was talented had, great ball skills made great on jump balls. That was his thing. Another, you know, the Colts could use a receiver, the Ravens with the Mark Jackson could use another receiver. If I'm the Ravens of the Colts, that's a risk worth taking. I'll give you a fifth-round pick. Pretty cool. Harry all over pay by, maybe a round or two. You know, the market says, it's like a six round pick. I'll give you a fourth round pick. To take a flyer. And a guy, we know it's really talented who maybe I could develop. It's possible to kill Harry's in the wrong situation. It's possibly some work hard. I don't know. It's again, I'm pretty. If you can't work with Tom. Brady, I'm pretty skeptical of you. But again, I ask you, why would New England trade, n'keal, Harry a former first-round pick to another AFC team. The Colts. The Ravens, the Steelers teams that they might play in the playoffs. I don't know why they would do that, unless I guess if they completely have no respect for to kill Harry, they think he's awful. And they just don't think he's going to do anything, but maybe that's the truth. Maybe they think they're going to get a steal by trading away. They're like, hey we can take this guy who were going to cut. And it's useless to us. If we just have no faith in, we can trade him for nothing and get better. It's better than cutting him. Maybe I'm imagining the Patriots of the kind of team that would trade him away and get like a, use the draft pick to draft like a Hall of Fame player that's cuz that's what the Patriots do. It seems like they make they always win every trade. But again, I ask you like, why, why would they trade me kill? Harry away? Unless again, they think he's hopeless off. If you're going to cut em, I guess it makes sense but also Bill Belichick. Again, is the kind of got you? He got cold out publicly by nikhil Harry saying you're not targeting me if I don't like where you're using me. Okay, buddy. Go sit on the bench. I'm going to bury you. I can see. Belichick doing that. Maybe the Patriots would trade him to Arizona. An NFC team, a different conference across the other side of the country. And that be interesting watching nuclear hit, nikhil Harry play with them. You know, the Andre Hopkins and Kyler Murray play for Kliff Kingsbury alongside Christian Kirk. I mean I could see that being interesting learning from older veteran receivers And I guess though, the realities I'd be I'd be very surprised. If the Patriots did anything, my prediction is they're not going to move in each. They're like no not even lift a finger they're going to like nah we're not. You probably going to tell nikhil. Hurry up and go back to work. Hey stop calling us out. Keep your mouth shut be quiet. I will say it's a bit interesting. I mean this is something that I've never seen a player, have the, I guess the balls to call out like to speak up in New England, everybody in that organization. Always keeps it very quiet. They don't call people out. They don't demand trades. I've never seen anything like this so maybe that means something I don't like, I mean, Is it a Tom Brady thing being gone is, is this a sign that the culture is unraveling? I don't know. I don't think so. I think it's got a rogue guy who is angry and upset with how his career is going and would rather blame the Patriots than be honest about his work ethic. I mean, here's the problem to kill Harry, is he saying? It's your fault not mine. How about work your tail off? If you work your butt off, you're going to succeed. Most of the time, maybe not everybody has a skill set. I mean, I, I certainly never ever could become a amazing sumo wrestler. Like, I just don't have the build. Look at me. I can never be a sumo wrestler. I'm five eleven skinny. I know, I can't happen. But n'keal Harry does have the skill set to be a great NFL receiver. And the question is, why is that not being developed? Why is he not improving and rather than own home? I gotta be better work. My tail off, it feels like he's just blaming the Patriots for not throwing in the ball. And that to me, that's a sign of the guy. I don't really know. I would want on my team. So it's an interesting storyline to keep your eyes on will n'keal Harry. Get traded where would he go? What could the Patriots get for him again? In college the students a stud catching jump balls. He has potential but so far he's been a massive, massive disappointment. So keep an eye on that story. I'm very, very curious. What's going to happen with n'keal Harry off. All right guys, my name is a Sean Miller. I'm going to take a short break when I returned. I wouldn't talk about Formula One Sprint, qualifying is here, that'll be really interesting. It's going to be a new Twist of formula one. That'll make it even more fascinating. Will do ask Zach a lot of good questions there and then later I've got an interview with my buddy Marcell. Frazier he is coaching in the European League of football. Great friend of mine, we go way back. I love that dude to death. He took his coaching in the European League of football that should be really interesting. So my name is extremely rare and I will be right back. Oh right, we are back over doing very very well. I want to jump in we'll talk about formula one right now. Formula One is making a change. They are adding something called Sprint, qualifying, and man. It's going to be using three races this year in 2021. The first of them seem to be in silverston in the UK. That will be July 18th next Sunday. And so here's how about a normal race weekend goes for me, qualifying is on Saturday. The race. The Grand Prix is on Sunday. And qualifying determines the starting grid for Sunday's race the big race on Sunday, you know, this, if you fall from the one at all, and I do not normally watch very much of qualifying. I record it, I record everything in the sports, all they got YouTube TV, it's amazing that unlimited DVR. So I record qualifying and then I watch maybe the last three minutes of Q3 if it's off if it's close like to see who the top ten are for the starting grid. I've also recently been watching a lot of cute too. Like I watch the end of Q2 as well because I want to see if George Russell makes it into Q3 and how it happens. He's usually been like 12 to 11:10 to 8 to night like right at the kind of right at the edge of the top ten. But for the most part, I don't watch qualifying. I watch the end of Q2, sometimes in the end of Q3 sometimes it's just not a draw. But I mean, sometimes in the past I have even just read the results. I mean you can find the list online. Hey, Max was first Louis. Second voucher botas 3rd. June. Find that pretty easily actually, sometimes it's more accurate than watching cuz the guy will get a grid penalty and you won't really find out what the starting grid is till four hours later. So watching qualifying, the traditional qualifying actually is either boring unhelpful or not that interesting and I love racing but that's not really racing. It's just like it's like a time trial. Well, formula one wants to make qualifying more interesting and I'm all for it and I got to say I applaud the f I informed the one for being willing to experiment and trying new things. So they're adding Sprint qualifying. Here is how Sprint qualifying works on Friday. You have your traditional average qualifying session. You have you, q1 Q2 Q3 what normally happens on Saturday will be moved back to Friday. So Friday, traditional qualifying, that determines the starting grid for Saturday, and on Saturday, you have the Sprint and the Sprint is, here's that works. It's a short. One hundred kilometer race. It's about less than a third of a normal race. So it'll be about a 25-minute 30-minute race. And there are no mandatory pit stops. There are no mandatory Tire changes. First place gets three points, second place gets two points, and third-place gets one point in the driver's and I think of the championship standings as well, but for your, for the championship trophy, that's it's one, two or three Championship points. But what's really cool about it is not necessarily the points, it's that the results of the Sprint, you know, the the finishing order of the Sprint, race on Saturday, becomes the starting grid for the big race. The Grand Prix on Sunday, so it's a race that determines the starting grid of the next race. It's way more compelling of way to do qualifying. And I absolutely love this idea. It's more racing. I love racing, my favorite sports right now. I love football. That's my favorite sport. Always will be right now, form of the one that my second favorite sport. I I just have to, I love it tremendously. I I don't get any views on my form of the one videos, like, not really, I do it cuz I love it. Like I really just love the sport and not to have about a half an hour of exciting. Interesting drama on a Saturday that I don't normally watch racing on. That's more of what I love. That makes me happy and formula one is happy because they're not going to get my attention from more of the weekend, the used to get it for like five minutes on Saturday. I would record it. Maybe pay attention, maybe not. Now, they're going to guarantee. Hey, I'm going to watch the Sprint. That sounds awesome. And I'm going to watch on Sunday and I'll probably see what happened on Friday. So you get at least 30 more minutes of my attention to you know do advertisements for me and to get, you know, to home Market stuff at me, basically and I'm all for. Hey, you give me the product. I love racing you can market and advertise at me all you want. And I have no doubt, I don't know what anyone. I'm pretty lucky actually to live in America so I don't there is no nobody covers form of the one in America. There's no, like, people in my area that I hear about stuff. We're talking about this. It's actually hard for me to find Formula One coverage on the internet. Makes it easier, but it's certainly not in my face. Have to go out and find it. So I don't know what people are saying about Sprint qualifying, I would imagine people angry. There are a lot of purists out there. They probably call it gimmicky and they're complaining, and I don't blame them, like, people hate change. I know I do to a podcast, I love juice a new host recently, and it was, it was a jarring change for me. Like, I don't like when things change. It's very, very difficult for me. But I this is one I love. I love the idea of Sprint qualifying. It sounds awesome. It sounds interesting. It's more racing. I love watching racing and I cannot wait to watch the debut of a Sprint, qualifying at silverston. It's going to be awesome. Next Sunday, July 18th. It's going to be I guess, Saturday. July 17th, July 18th, is a race. It's going to be awesome. It's gonna be so much fun with a great weekend and I'm excited to see the debut of Sprint qualifying in Formula One. All right, guys. It's time for ask Zach, my favorite part of the show. It's all right. Answer questions from the audience. Oh yeah, good to hear from you guys in case. You do not know how it works. Yep, you give a dollar a month, you can get more. If you want to, please do a dollar a month. Literally helps me pay my rent. It makes a huge impact on my life. It's my most stable income tax. So high support me if you want to. Now I just I try to be very transparent, very honest for clarity. I don't, if you submit a question, I do not guarantee to read your question or answer your question on the page only guarantee is I look at every single question with my eyeballs and I picked the top couple to read at the end of every show. So let's jump in question number one today, it's from Dylan. Dylan writes in, he says, how would you make Madden good if you were in charge of sports? So the most important I play single player Matt, and I don't play Madden online. I'm probably not even good enough. I probably got my butt kicked, but ilove, ilove, ilove, ilove, ilove, franchise mode, and I am, I bought Madden 17 when that came out, I hated franchise mode. It was awful. It's the only like new Madden. I have, and I gave up on the serious after that Madden franchise mode in that game was awful. Not interesting in a compelling, I go. I play Madden 11, still on the PlayStation 3. I have, I actually have 3 Playstation 3. I take very good care of them. I'm not kidding. Like, when I'm not playing my Playstation 3, it's in a, like, a computer bag inside Tupperware. I'm not getting dust on that thing. I'm going to let that I want that thing to run for twenty years cuz it's the only way I can play Madden dead now so I I really, really passionately. Love my Playstation 3. I take great care of it cuz I want to play Madden 11 there. So my first thought, hey, fix Madden franchise and would make a deeper dead. Invest more into it really, really make that quality worth play. Now, I wouldn't do much with online. I don't even know what the online ecosystem is in mad, and I think results, many people do that and good for them. But another thing I would probably do is make mad, and a platform Madness yearly football video game, it comes out every year. So, I would just stop reading a new game every year. It's not necessary and it appears like the TDI sport starts almost from scratch every year rebuilding a new game and not a core gameplay mechanics, like, you know, running passing like mad and the gameplay stays static for a couple of years and they update it every like three or four years but it's like the rebuild franchise mode. They rebuild road to the boss, not rid of the show road to glory is what it's called, probably either way it's It feels like they start from scratch and then every year there's this like Mad Dash to try to meet the deadline. And it's the problem with trying to meet a deadline every year, is it strips away all the quality from the game? And a lot of time Adams just a roster update every year anyway, so trying to meet a yearly deadline to the game, like Madden is kind of like a YouTuber that tries to make a video every single day. You never see the guy that tries to upload something every single day. It's a war of escalation, it's not healthy. You're always trying to make a newer better idea and you're you're forcing it. People force it all the time. When it comes to Art and for lack of a better, her Madden is still art. It's still a creative Endeavor. And the minute you put finances ahead of our quality. You lose, big-time. And that's I, I fight that every day, with strong opinion Sports, I really want to make quality and it's it's hard for me to like not put five boxes at the front and, you know, Forefront of my mind, but you can't do that and make a sustainable quality show. Like I firmly believe that if you make quality, people will stick around and people will care. And they you have to look at the long-term gain rather than the short-term financial gain. I would like I cover form of the one. I know people don't follow me for format, like the people that watch my film analysis videos, probably hate that I cover form of the one I get that. But I'm building something, I'm building another side of my audience. I have people now that follow me only for form of the one. They don't like basketball. They don't like football. They like, when I cover for that, it's only like a thousand people. But a thousand becomes, mm, becomes 3000, it's an investment in the future. And so I want Madden to put quality ahead of their yearly deadline. Hey, make make me pay for the game, the base platform and then every year, put out a 10:15 $30 update with a couple of new features. And that way for the year, you work on a new features to add the base game, rather than putting out a new base game every year for 70, 60 bucks, it's nonsense and eventually becomes forced. So, I, that's how I would fix the video game, Madden a game. I, I love sports games, MLB the show is my favorite one to K is great. It's fun to build the team on 2K. You learn how to master some guy shot and hit 3-pointers from man, to Kae will be the show Madden. I'm trying to think of another one. There's another one that's really. I want, I really want to play the f one game at some point. I'm a ways off from ever doing that. But that would be another fun and games. For some days, it really if I ever got rich rich, rich, man, were a ways away from that. But if I ever had like a lot of expendable money, I would just build one of those. Really cool driving simulators and, and, you know, like actually race in form of the one virtually like, that'd be so fun, but that's, I feel like you have like a lot of expendable income to do that. I don't certainly not there. I'm trying to survive so long. That sounds fun to me though. Devin rights in Devon says, hey Zach, what do you think of the new iCarly personally, there's a lot of changes I would make. If I was showrunner, for example, I feel like friend's daughter just takes away so much from valuable screen time from the important characters. Is there anything that you would have changed? So I haven't seen the new iCarly I want to talk about this because it looks really interesting. I think it's on Paramount, plus if I am right? I want to watch it. I've just been slammed getting ready for my move first week of August, and moving away at a lower Forty-Eight, it's going to be wild dead. And it's the logistics of planning a move are like my car ships away next Friday and one of the car for three weeks that's going to be unbelievably hard. But what I've seen from iCarly so far looks adult, looks interesting and I kind of want to invite more people to write in about this. If you've watched the new iCarly, let me know if it's worth. It looks like it's worth watching. I, my fiance has never seen any of the old iCarly stuff. That'd be fun to introduce her to that, as well. But yeah, feel free to write and let me know what you thought of iCarly. And I looks like something may be in February when football season is over, like, it'll be a while, but plus money's tight out, I don't really feel like adding a new scription service to my my finances, but hey, at some point I'll get to it. I hope. And at some point I'd like to watch the new iCarly series, there's like sex jokes and there's Freddy as a kid and there's just all kinds. It's, it's much more. I think there was cussing like mature content, which I It's aimed at, you know, twenty four, twenty five year olds that watched it when they were, you know, fourteen. However, old I was, when I watched it, they grew up and that. Now, we're adults and want to watch them a Cosgrove being adult. I think that's awesome. And I'm all for it. Jeffrey writes in we're just having not Sports I guess tend to show here. He says, hey Zach, what's your top three? Favorite movies? Given a simple today, keep up the great work before. Three, I want to give a shout. There's movie. I'm obsessed with right now. Really want to watch my fiance, so I'm starting to movie podcast. It's, it's coming and working on it. Every every week I get a little bit closer to putting it out. The next movie, I'm covering wage is Moneyball. That's not really. It's a baseball movie but it's not really a baseball movie, but that's that's one of those movies. It's not on my top three but it's an honorable mention, that's a phenomenal movie, that movie for adverse, Rory's and other one. That's really, really good. Sherlock Holmes is great with. What's his name? Robert Downey jr. But here are my top free. My top three favorite movies off. My first two are one a and one b in no order. And then my third favorite movie is movie Rush. So Rush is a movie about it's funny. I I loved it way before I left form of the one. But ironically to Ron Howard movie about to Formula One drivers. It's about Niki Lauda and James Hunt, Niki, Lauda and Austrian driver and James Hunt. A British driver James Hunt. Is, I played that Chris Hemsworth. I forget the name of the guy plays Niki. Lauda be very famous in the Marvel Cinematic Universe as well. He's the bad guy in Captain America, Civil War? Yep, Civil War. Anyway, it's about two drivers with an opposite approach. They both win World titles, but one guy is all preparation, and the other guy is All Balls is all talent. And he's like, hey, I'm off to take the risk and go for that gap or the other guys. Like, why would I need to go for the risk? I, I just calculated you. So it's interesting to watch how they diverge. And the question is, does it even really work for either? One of them, are they either one of them really happy? So that's my third favorite movie. Now my top two favorite movies are again in no order. La La Land a musical, they never would have thought, I would love that movie makes me cry. Everytime I watch it in the 2009 Star Trek. So we'll start with a more manly movie, I guess cuz toxic masculinity is fun. I love 2009. Star Trek, it's my favorite movie like gas, dude, it's so fun. It, I, when I was a kid, my, my three favorite people that I wanted to be like, where Captain Kirk Captain James T. Kirk Han Solo, and Jack Sparrow from Pirates of the Caribbean and I love the, I think it was in from the sixties the month, old Star Trek Captain Kirk TV, show in this movie so well honors, the past while also continuing the future of Star Trek. And I spine is a great, James T. Kirk and it's so so good. Great movie. It's fun. I watch it. I watched it three times in one day. I'm not kidding. It's a phenomenal. It just fun. The music is great. The ending credits are like phenomenal. Like the music and the ending credits are really phenomenal. Michael giacchino made it. I I cannot recommend enough if you haven't, it's it's free Star Trek 2009, it's made by JJ Abrams. It's on Netflix, go watch it. It's a phenomenal phenomenal movie. My favorite ever? Like, it's so good. Now, my other, my second, my other favorites on my second, it's my other favorite movie. Is La La Land. A gosh, it's a musical and I love it. I city of stars. Are you shining just for me? Like, I do I do? I love love, love the music of that movie, and it feels weird to say that. But it's honest here's why I love a attention to detail the way they made the movie is incredible. There's like a long tracking shots and these really long continuous shots and amazing choreography. And like really, really impressive behind the scenes filmmaking you go. This is just a really long well-made movie. That's it's impressive how they put it together. But also the story. So filmmaking is great. The music is good. But the story is so good. It's about chasing a dream. And there's a song it's the lyrics. Go like here's to the ones who dream. Here's the the hearts who ache the foolish as they may seem. Like it's about talking about chasing a dream. And God damn, that's what I did for years. I slept under my desk in a college dorm room, recording my stupid Sports podcast, like chasing my dream and I pulled all-nighters like crazy. I was full time working as a student. I was full-time. Working, a real job for ESPN and recording my show on the side, like I was killing myself every single day. And I still do. I mean every day you wake up and you attack life cuz life the fight doesn't ever end, there's always more to do. There's always other stuff and that that pursuit of our dreams and what you want. Like it never does stop. I my dream, my whole life was to move to Hawaii on August. 7th, I'm moving to Hawaii, like, that's a dream I fought. So I'm so fucking hard for sorry about excuse my French. I don't really care. I fought for that. And this movie speaks to those people who have a dream, who understand what it's like to ache and yearn, and want to succeed and want to have some of your dreams. And I am nowhere near at all my dreams. But man, I I have my dream job. I've got my dream fiance like I am life's really amazing and I fought hard for that. I really really put in a a lot, a lot, a lot of work and you have to work like others more and this movie La La Land. I guess my rent is ending now off. Go watch it. If you're someone who has a dream it'll make you cry, it's unavoidable. It will really speak to your heart and the ache inside your heart, your desire to succeed, it La La Land. The, the song Money, Right by Joe Cocker and those are a couple of things that just, if you're a person who is in the hunt, chasing a dream, it will really, really speak to you to watch Lal. And he underwrites in Hunter says, hey Zach page Fan. My question is, what is your Super Bowl 56? Dark Horse team. Mine is the LA Chargers, he said Los Angeles. I know I said, I guess we're at Super Bowl 56 already. That's the way. I mean I think you mean this year, I didn't realize we were that many Super Bowls in already. So I actually have five Dark Horse teams. Dark Horse is defined as someone who is not expected to win. So let me let me be clear, I can let me, let me back up. Here are my my favorites to win the NFL Super Bowl. Probably Kansas City, the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes. They win a Superbowl last year. They reloaded their offense of line like Kansas City is a favorite. For sure, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, they have Tom Brady, they returned all 22 starters. That means they through the draft, they just got better. Now, the Buccaneers will be back their divisions actually, probably weaker than it was last year. The Rams should be a favorite to win the Superbowl. They went tenant 6. Last year, they were a playoff team the year before, I mean. Last year, twenty-twenty they had the best defense last year in the NFL and the upgraded at quarterback. So a team that was really good. Just got even better with Matthew Stafford at quarterback. Now, expect the Rams to be in the hunt for a Super Bowl ad in the Buffalo. Bills are a team that came really close to a Superbowl to they made an AFC Championship Game, Josh Alameda, you know, take a huge step forward. The bills will be better this year. I think take another step forward. So the favorites right now in the NFL, may be Kansas City Buffalo, the LA Rams and the Buccaneers But I have five teams that are dark horse teams. That I think could be really good, depending on a factor or two. But teams, that no one, really. I think they might be expected to be playoff team, but they're not expected to be Super Bowl teams if that makes sense. So, here are my five Dark Horse teams in the NFL. You have. Number one, the Indianapolis Colts. This is probably the least. Corsi Team part of the Colts. That's a hoarse. Anyway, they're adding Carson Wentz quarterback from Philadelphia coming off. Awfully worst year of his career, got benched lost his job, made bad decisions, I've covered it to death, but some people think it's not going to work. There are people that like Philadelphia fans who are very biased or like he's awful. Not going to work. He sucks. And it comes down to how much of an impact do you believe Carson Wentz is going to have with the Colts? Is he going to make them even better and push them over the edge to a Superbowl there. A playoff team last year. Or is he going to fail? And if you believe in Carson Wentz, then therefore, you have to also believe the Colts are a team that could contend for a Super Bowl. Does their team is not good? The coach the team they run the ball, they play great defense. You assume Carson's going to be a great quarterback. Then you have to therefore also assume the Colts are going to be a Super Bowl contender. Number to another Dark Horse team. The Denver Broncos are a team that has an amazing amazing. Amazing, amazing roster. They just need good quarterback play and they need to stay healthy. And I remember when Kurt Warner, revived his career in Arizona, and went to a Superbowl with the Arizona Cardinals, I remember when Matt Schaub led the NFL in passing in 2009, like, is it, does anyone expect Teddy Bridgewater to be amazing? We think he's going to be the starting quarterback in Denver. I think he's going to be out Drew lock. There's a reason they traded in Bridgewater. I don't think in Aaron Rodgers trade is going to happen for Denver. If they get Aaron Rodger, if they're definitely a Super Bowl Contender, but Teddy Bridgewater might be the answer in Denver, and I have an open mind. I mean, for a brief moment. In 2016 was a 2015, 2015, the year after so 2015, Teddy, Bridgewater was drafted in 2014 number. First round pick in Minnesota 2015, they go 11:00 and 5, and you're like, oh, momentum is building. You found the franchise quarterback 2016. During practice, horrific leg injury to Teddy. Bridgewater off since then, hasn't really had a shot. If Teddy ever is going to get a shot to show, what could have been? It's 2021 this year in Denver with a stacked loaded, incredibly talented roster in Denver, that's a dark horse. Team that I don't think people expect to be amazing. That could be dead if they get good quarterback play from Teddy Bridgewater. Another Dark Horse team. The New Orleans Saints. I love Drew Brees, I love love, love the former Saints, quarterback Drew Brees, he retired at forty-two years old, that guy was not not as a guest at the end. Read the book coming back. Stronger, amazing book. I love I love Drew Brees. Always will but it is very possible and likely that Jameis Winston With good coaching from Sean, Payton, who, by the way, remember he revived Drew Brees his career too. He He Turned Drew Brees and do a guy that he took Drew Brees from a guy who was cast off from San Diego, who who got benched. So that Philip Rivers could be the starting quarterback in San Diego. Sean Payton took Drew Brees from an unwanted quarterback, who Miami the Dolphins, wouldn't even take him to a Hall of Fame quarterback. So, don't underestimate the value that Sean Payton as a coach can bring to a quarterback. Jameis Winston's a former number one overall pick. He was Elite 11 MVP. A Heisman Trophy winner. Jameis Winston is a meathead sometimes he does dumb stuff that makes you go. Jesus dude. What are you doing? That's a bad decision. You don't steal crab legs. Like there's a couple things. You're like Jameis. What are you doing? But you can't deny his ability and despite having 30 interceptions in 2019 which is absurd like thirty. Think about that. For almost every touchdown he threw, he had 33, he had 30 interceptions in 2019, that's ridiculous. Clearly there's the decision-making problem there. But he also led the league in passing yards like he Jameis has talent and ability. Now he's going to get Sean Payton as his coach full-time. With also commitment matters, having team, commit to you and say your guy that matters to It's very possible. The Saints are a Super Bowl Contender this fall. If a big if if Jameis Winston delivers and it's really really good and all he really has to do is Young and Drew was, you know, really declining at the end of the year. So keep your eye on Jameis Winston that could be a team that surprises. A lot of people say that they're a good football. I mean they won the division last year, they beat Tampa twice, Tampa won the Superbowl last year. They, you know, there are really really good football team. Keep your eye in New Orleans if they get good quarterback. Play from James, they're going to be phenomenal. Another Super Bowl Dark Horse, team is the Tennessee Titans. They got a a defense of mine to coach. They've got some problems on events but they're they're better than people realize they were a playoff team last year. They have I don't know how you stop the Titans offense this year. I can't wait to watch them. Ryan Tannehill is a really under-rated quarterback. A guy who's not 5G, he will not blow you away but a guy's clutch, Ryan Tannehill for lack of a better term. Makes plays when it matters most on third down on fourth down on Thursday and the Red Zone he runs for first downs. He Scrappy he can make good throws but you also now have Derrick Henry at running back who Is like unbelievable. He's the best running back in the NFL and you have to load the Box. To stop the Titans running game with Derrick Henry, meaning you have to put more Bodies In The Box, near the line of scrimmage to stop. Derrick Henry, the problem is that when you do that, it leads to better matchups on the outside for wide receivers guys, like Julio Jones and who they traded for in AJ Brown. You're going to a lot of man coverage downfield, you're going to have a lot of good matchups for Julio Jones and AJ Brown. How do you defend the Titans offense? I have no idea, they've got a quarterback who can deliver, who will make plays, he will not lose you a game. You've got a running back who will destroy you. And if you load the box to stop that running back, good luck defending both Julio Jones and AJ Brown. You might have one great corner. You don't have to like a do, do the Packers play. The Miami Dolphins this year? That would be really fun. Byron Jones Xavier in Howard against Julio Jones and gosh, AJ Brown, that'd be a fun match up to Great Corners against two. Great receivers. How do they stop the running game? Like, I want to watch Tennessee play Miami this year. That'd be really, really fun. But the Titans are a team that hey, they were a playoff team last year. They upgraded their Superbowl, Dark Horse, team as well. My last Super Bowl Dark Horse. Team is Washington. The Washington football team. The team that I think at a losing record last year, actually, but they won their division, they were a playoff team. Despite the fact they had four different starting quarterbacks last year. Kyle Allen Dwayne Haskins Alex Smith & Taylor henneke Taylor henneke, by the way, awesome in the NFL playoffs against Tampa, they lost. But he plays a guy who's kind of the bright spot, got a contract will deserve But Washington needed a quarterback last year they didn't have one. Now, they got one Ryan Fitzpatrick, a guy who has done some really good stuff. Recently, Ryan Fitzpatrick, I feel bad for him. I went through a situation in college where I was lied to. I was told there was a competition. I was told I'd get a fair shot. And I did really well, every time I played, I threw touchdown passes. I was phenomenal and I did the best I could. But the reality is the reality of my coach wouldn't tell me. It wouldn't be honest about. Was he just wanted? The other guy wasn't really a competition. He just liked the other guy better. That's fine. I wish you would have said that in Miami. They said straight up. Hate Ryan Fitzpatrick. We love you. You're thirty-eight years old, we got a draft, a quarterback with our number five, overall pic Tua tagovailoa. and in Tampa, in 2018, remember Ryan Fitzpatrick, had an incredible run like destroying NFL defenses and Ryan Fitzpatrick had done what he did at 36 12 years earlier at twenty-four years old. Instead teams would be building around Ryan Fitzpatrick. They would be committing a law saying, hey how can we win with this guy? But because he's older, he's not viewed as a franchise quarterback. Now, Washington, God bless him, doesn't care. How much longer Ryan Fitzpatrick. Has to play they care. Can you help us win? Now, cuz we want to win in 2021, we don't care about 20-25. We want to win, right? We have a good team ready to win. Now with Ron Rivera is a no-nonsense head coach, he's ready to go. And Ryan Fitzpatrick, just Wiley veteran, a great leader, who all he's needed as a team to commit to him, but man, we got it. I, I think Washington is a team that will shock a lot of people with. They added Curtis Samuel, they have Terry McLaurin, they added Ryan Fitzpatrick, they got a great defense. They got home. Chase Young's going to be back for a second year, going to be even better. It's a Defensive Rookie of the Year last year, keep your eye on Washington. That's another Dark Horse team. So my five Dark Horse Super Bowl teams, the Colts that's kind of cheating, but whatever. Depends on how you view, Carson, Wentz the Broncos, I know that's a shock but the rosters The rosters that good they weren't that kind of respect. They just need a good quarterback play from Teddy, Bridgewater the Saints. Hey, if Jameis gets the coaching, I think he will. And Sean Payton has a huge impact. The way he haven't Drew Brees Jameis, could be amazing, and the Saints could be incredible. The Titans added Julio Jones. That adds a new Dynamic to their team. I can't wait to watch that and then Washington, adding Ryan Fitzpatrick, the quarterback. They've been missing, might put them over the top you off first and how incredible it is that a team? A roster can be so good. They make the playoffs with four different starting quarterbacks in a single season, unbelievable. It shows how good Washington's roster is and how well-coached they are. I'm constantly impressed with Ron Rivera, those are my five Super Bowl Dark Horse teams. What a good segment, man, hey Hunter, thanks for writing in. I got a lot of time out of that. Didn't mean to God. Well done Hunter tail and and writes in. He says, if you had a complete the Olympics, what sport would you do in a way I'd competed the Winter Olympics, not snowboarding. That's for sure. My niece had blown out now, probably not, but I'm not. I'm not, I'm, I can barely snowboard, like, I can stand up and ride down. I can't do jumps or anything, I'd probably do the broom thing, you know, you got the broom and you're pushing, what's it called, its Curling Club. I would do I'd be curling you know that we slide Little Rock and you you broom the ice really fast, that that's the sport. I think I'd be good at cuz it takes very little athletic ability. And anyone with Zach is not fast. I want to place a football, maybe even a year ago. I was in better shape like Covent. I got fat added like ten fifteen pounds, I mean, you could see go look at my face, go look at all videos. I hope moving T swimming. Every day is going to help that and I heard that stress can make you gain weight. I've definitely done that. Yeah, I do curling. If I was an Olympic Athlete wage sir. Certainly not. The hundred meter dash, dude. Oh my gosh, not right now, Nick rights and he says do you like sushi if so what's your favorite role? So I love sushi. I'm also very generic and very boring. I almost ashamed to admit this but my favorite sushi rolls in California roll. Get that with some spicy mayo. Phenomenal. Now have bad news. Nick a little Sushi. Great. Love some good. Avocado in their raw fish is great. But I'm also the bad news is, I've done with fish. I, I stopped eating fish entirely it broke my fiance's heart. She loves Sushi as well. She loves poke. I it's something I have to do for myself. I there's a couple of things in life that I just changes. I felt like I needed to make and like, morally for me. Like, one thing is, I support communist China. As little, as I possibly can, I absolutely hate what goes on in China. You look read some stories about the yougurt death camps work camps. Excuse me, concentration camps, or like in China, you know, this is a real thing. I got a flight I was walking around Honolulu, actually. Like three weeks ago, got handed a flyer all about the live organ stealing that happens in China where they kidnap people, cut them up and take out organs, sell them on the black market that happens in China China's also I hate China, another thing, another principal to have that. I just I'm calling it done. Is I'm done eating fish because of a fishing is a big problem. I don't feel like I have no desire to contribute to overfishing at all. And then also, because a plastic you ever like watched a plastic ocean the documentary on Netflix. You, you cut open a fish and they're just plastic and particles. Like I don't want any plastic. I really don't. I don't want cancer when I'm old. If if I just need to eat vegetables, I can do that. It's not worth getting cancer for me and inhaling much a plastic just to have sushi which is good but I can go without it. So unfortunately I'm done with fish has a plastic because of overfishing plastic in my food and I don't want to contribute to overfishing of the oceans and I think a place like Hawaii my favorite place in the world that's maybe eighty years left of human habitation. I'm not kidding. If the global temperature keeps going up, I mean, if the global temperature goes up nine degrees Fahrenheit, like most of America becomes a desert. You don't realize that. So I I'm kind of a nut I guess. I'm kind of a hippy. People think I'm, like a liberal or super right wing. I'm really neither. I don't really, I hate both sides. I just do my own thing, but I don't eat fish anymore. That's my my crazy rant from Zach. Welcome to the welcome to the cool song. Davis writes in, He says does Reggie Bush deserve to have his Heisman Trophy reinstated after the new NCAA rules with the n? I l I think personally yes he was no doubt the best college player that year so yeah Reggie Bush deserves the advisement trophy back in fact okay so let's say the Heisman Trophy doesn't acknowledge it I do he won the Heisman Trophy in a square. He got paid some money hated to say. Let me ask you a question. No, no matter how much money you get paid. Does that make you faster? Let me catch the ball game. I think it, his mom got paid, like $100,000 to buy a house or something like that. Cost a lot man, I'm really getting getting loose lipped. Now it getting paid. Didn't make Reggie Bush, a better football player. He worked his tail off, he earned that trophy. Use of it. He was the best player in college football. Didn't make him faster to make him catch a ball more and the fact that he's being punished for something is no longer illegal. I mean, here's a crude example, it's like in Washington weed is legal here. It's like having a guy who's serving life in prison for a a charge with marijuana, even though it's legal now it's like, wait, it's it's legal now. It wasn't when he'd committed the crime. Is he in jail for something? It's now legal. It makes no sense. Why is Reggie Bush being punished for something that's now allowed in college football. It's ridiculous. Come on, man. Free roam. She let him have the like, look, he won the Heisman Trophy, you know what? I know, we all know it. Let's just acknowledge a given the stupid Trophy and let him enjoy his life, he deserves and he earned it. okay, Jack writes in Jack says, is it weird that I don't really care about who wins Formula One races? I just really love good story lines and just good racing in general. For example, I really like the most recent race because we got to be Ricardo battling with the do Ferraris, and Sergio Perez Lando battling with both Mercedes and George Russell paddling, Fernando Alonso. I know the max ran away with the race win, but I since every other aspect of the race was great, I still enjoy them as a whole. Dude, that's not weird. That makes total sense. Look, Max versus Mercedes is fun for me. So I care who wins cuz I want to see Max beat Mercedes, that's exciting to me back. If it's not closed. Why would you they don't even show Max when it's way ahead. So, and like, Lewis Hamilton has dominated form of the one. Four years. Mercedes is one seven championships in a row. And they've been blowouts. So, when you have a, a team or race or dominating a sport, like Formula One, Then as fans, we are forced to look for other interesting battles throughout the grid. And there are plenty of good interesting battles. So, like thank God for McLaren versus Ferrari boss battle. For third is so so, so close and so entertaining, back and forth. So yeah, no Jack, that's not weird at all, makes total sense and I don't care what position you're fighting for Wheel racing. Whether it's for 19th or second or first wheel-to-wheel racing is really fun and really interesting and exciting to watch. So yeah, racing is racing and I want to watch good racing. Final question of the day, Caleb writes in and says, hey Zach, when you played football, what time did you like to practice plays and drills? Was there a time that you absolutely hated in glad you never had to do that ever again. A time. So I always try to. I got a couple of stories here. Number one, I live in the Pacific, Northwest grew up there, my whole life. And so, when it rained, literally, the minute I saw rain happening outside, I'd grab a football. I'd grab my little brothers and say, hey, we're going outside to play catch because I want to play quarterback in college and we live in the Northwest and want to play quarterback at the varsity level. Even and to do that, you're going to play football in the rain, practice games, whatever. So I wanted to master be great at throwing the ball in the rain, and I was always really good in the rain because of that it would start raining and I would get better because everyone else is slipping and not comfortable and I'm like just dropping dimes on people who are defensive backs a little bit slower. And I just for some reason it just when I was most comfortable, someone was raining cuz I worked really hard at that. Making that my Edge. I knew that was something you had to be good at in, in Washington, here in the northwest. Now my favorite time to do drills late at night early in the morning. Any anytime you're under the lights? It's so cool. And so special, like football, Under The Lights, practice drills, a game, whatever, it's just better, it's so fun and it's cooler. By the way, I hate my least favorite time do drills is In the Heat of the day three, four pm conditioning in the pounding Sun It's not fun. I don't miss that. I never will miss that. I I hated conditioning. I'm like I'm a quarterback dude. Honestly, like in college. I hated the starting quarterback of our school cuz our Lounge. Our coach was a dippy, like he played. Favorites of crazy. He made everyone condition except for the starting quarterback. And I'm like, dude, you're all you're doing. I'm old, I'm playing. I'm twenty-four years old, playing college football, and conditioning didn't make me a better quarterback. In fact, all I did was make me wear out my legs. And once you lose your legs and training camp, it's over, you'll use your legs. Throw the football, and you're trying to ice every day and stretch and take care of your legs. But as a quarterback, one of the most valuable assets, you have is taking care of your legs. So that they're ready to go. And I, man, they, they allowed our starting quarterback to not condition before someone else to do. And it was like, so weird, I'm a Visionary and I would, I wish I would have gotten that. That's preferential treatment. I didn't, I was bitter about it forever, still em. But I remember the day like, when my legs suddenly felt like Jell-O and you can't get it back unless you take time off. And the problem is, you're in the middle football season, you can't take time off. So I hate a conditioning, I hated doing it. And heat of the day conditioning at night was fine, the heat like it's hard on your legs life. But at least the heat's not there, I love practicing early morning or under the lights. Something about it even like as the sun is rising, and it's still not hot, totally fine to me. I love it so much and then also, like 4:00 5:00. That's the son of sitting in the sun is like, right in your eyes and you can't see anything hate that too. That's not fun either. So that's the worst time to play football. All right, guys, I want to shift gears to an interview. I did the other day with my good friend Marcel. I I just I gave him a great interest, so I guess now please enjoy by interviewees with Marcel joining me. Now he played college football in the SEC at Missouri. He was an all-sec defensive and he played for the Browns and the Seattle Seahawks, he loves football, he loves helping young men. He's now coaching defense of line for the Barcelona dragons Marcell. Frazier, how are you? I'm doing great dude. How are you doing today? I'm doing awesome, man, I'm excited to talk to you. I've really, I've actually been teasing this for a while now. I guess what I'd like to do first is just have you your coaching right now in the European League of football pitch me and everyone else off the league. Tell me about the leak. Tell me why I should be excited and kind of tell people about what's going on over there. So yeah, man, we've we've rebranded basically from NFL Europe, we've took the name and rights of every single team will not dead. Redeem cuz we're not as big as NFL Europe was but all eight of our teams. I know at least the Barcelona dragons to Hamburg. See Devils the team up in Frankfurt. We all took the name and rice from NFL Europe but he difference now is we're trying to create a actual European League of football that grows and develops European Talent. Whereas the old NFL Europe was almost like an American developmental League. That happened to be in Europe. So that's a, that's a big difference here. We're trying to grow the fan base here and just grow the talent to give it longevity and maybe give kids some operations for NFL Pathways Canadian and international Pathways. So yeah, that's the that's the one key difference. But the fans, you know, I think they're more excited than average just because NFL Europe has been moved over for a decade or two now. So, they've been really hungry for, you know, a, a multi-country league here in in Europe and we're off to a great start, I believe. I'm pretty unique on YouTube where I can reach anybody globally. So a lot of my audiences in Germany and in Spain, and all over the UK. And I know that, you know, I I cover form of the one, which means tap into Europe as well, and it's interesting there. There really is a hunger for football in Europe. Is that your sense as your coaching over there? Oh man, totally, you know, I've only been to two venues so far, we've had some games and we played at cologne and, you know, both venues that I've been at so far. Fans are singing the whole time. Fans are chanting. It's almost kind of like the soccer fan base, where they're just active the whole time. They don't always quite know when to cheer as far as on offense or defense, but they just kind of sing songs and they chant pretty much non-stop which is often they get really, really, really drunk before the game. They pregame just like they pre-games, you know, just like Americans, they do their hotel. Great thing to eat. I know here in Barcelona, we have a band who actually. Yep. Free game for about 1 to 2 hours. So it's a live show in our parking lot that they just the band sings and plays music, some classic American Music, some Spanish music. They get, the fans are Rowdy back then, you know, when the, when the game starts, it's ready to go, man. So, the fans seem hungry for it and they've supported it. I think, in television ratings, and as far as showing up in person as well. Yeah, I've been impressed. I've only guys, I follow up on a dragon's on Instagram, your team. I think you signed a kicker to actually like 15 minutes ago. I saw is that the only thing about that I do not know about that but looks like he's played on him. Raiders, which is, which is great for us. That's phenomenal. Are you having fun? Oh, dude, it's awesome. It's it's a little bit different flavor as far as just a slight language barrier, you know, where in Spain and Spain is, one of the countries were they don't speak as much English compared to, you know, Germany or obviously the UK. Their language is, is English. But in Germany, I know they speak a little bit more English, so it's giving me a chance to touch up on Myspace page. But you find new ways to coach. It's, it's almost like high school and Juco where you're really getting people who are young in the game and you have to find new ways to communicate to them to get back across, you know, but I'm having an amazing time in Spain, dude. Like, how can you not like Spain? Yeah, tropical beautiful warm. Well, you were in Andorra yesterday, right? Is that accurate? Yeah, I was in Andora, the past two nights, but yeah, indoors, awesome. Dude, it's up in the mountains. It's a village. It's a couple of little Villages. Its ultra-modern. I mean, per capita, probably the most modern place I've ever set foot in everything was just ultra-modern. Everything was made of stone. Yeah, it was just awesome dude. Everybody was super-fit they're into the outdoors mountain biking. Hiking skiing kind of like the the w a little bit. Hm. Yeah see your on your bye week. You just travel over to Endora for a couple of days. Yeah. It's a pretty it's a pretty sweet deal is only about a three hour and fifteen minute drive wage And you, you're in a completely different country, they're not in the European Union at all. So, it's a little bit different flavor there. Really was no covert Strickland's as far as getting in, you know, coming out of it. They said, they checked our password and all that good stuff, but going in and was like a checkpoint and they waved at us and we kind of just went in. Wow, what's it like? So how far was the travel to Cologne, Germany? So, I was just like, you know, taking a flight on the west coast maybe from Southern Cal to Washington. It wasn't I slept most of the way but I don't think it was any more than two and half maybe two hours and forty-five minutes off. Clones awesome the grounds a little bit more of historic place. It reminds me a lot of America. As far as infrastructure in Germany very very big freeways. They drive super fast. Cars are a little bit larger in Germany, compared to Spain. The people are much, much bigger in Germany compared to Spain. They look, they look more American, you know, tall wide but it was, it was awesome job. No, the one thing about Europe is, everyone has kind, there's no like, you never really like looking over your shoulder like you are in the states. As far as, oh, man. This this guy might be crazy or this person might have a weapon and killing everybody. Just super kind. So you let your guard down a lot here, which is awesome. How is the experience for the players? Your coaching? But you're coaching much of players. What's it like for them? Or they having a good time? Is it good for them? Oh man. They have their Spanish guys are having an amazing time cuz in comparison to the German league. Obviously, Germany is probably the most developed football in the continent of Europe. Where I Spain a lot of our young guys are young on the international scene. They're not young age, all of them are, some of them are, but a lot of them are just young on the international scene and they have just soaked it up. And I know going to Germany for them was they took first time most of them have left their home country, or their home region for a, for a game. And many of them had never been to Germany at all. So, I know they enjoyed it. Absolutely. And we've we've taken great wage. I'm just from my experience in the exit fail to see if he'll an NFL we take care of our guys. Obviously it's not going to be the same finances. But amenities the housing, our guys live, pretty close to the beach. They eat pretty well on game day and the day before game day and while traveling. So, they're loving it, man. I'm curious individual football. You have guys who are like Walk-Ons? Who often have to work jobs on the side as a baby doing that over there. We do have guys who work actually, we have guys who work in commute. So we have, you know, the majority of our guys live in a residence in town. So we the a lot of the coaches, we were at the beach town, then they moved us over to where the stadiums yet. So we were all in the same residence though, so it was great accommodations. But I have to D lineman who commutes long commutes about an hour and half every day for practice, one commutes about two hours and then I have my four or five other deal. I'm and they live here in the residence. So they just, you know, drawing Only, you know, five ten minutes to practice and to home. But there's some guys here who work we have a starting money who's a, like, outside linebacker safety hybrid. He works a night shift at a factory job so he practices and does meetings all day. Then he drives home goes to the night shift wakes up, I mean, not wakes up, but gets off work. Go to sleep for a little bit eat and then come to practice and he does it all over again. Every wage. That's a dude who loves football. There's no way you're doing that kind of work if you don't enjoy the work. Oh, absolutely. And speaking on love of football, that's not a theme, you really have to worry in Europe because it's, it's, it's not amateur because we're paying them and we're paying for their accommodations and we pay for their flights but they're not doing it to get rich, like in America. So they absolutely love the game. No matter. If they're young in the game old in the game, they know a lot. They don't know anything, they're good or bad across the board. I would say the majority of the guys, love the game, unlike anywhere I've ever been prob As far as coaching when Europe to football, is not your first option. I mean, there's so many other sports you could gravitate towards before playing American football. So if a guy shows with a football in Spain, that dude's there for football and that's that's really cool to me. That's part of the story. Go. Wow, man, these guys are so dedicated. I do want to know. So you talked to briefly about coaching guys with a language barrier. So do you have time to do not speak in this would be or speak very little English. You're trying to teach how to play defensive line you have like to have two guys who you know, they speak maybe kindergarten English if that And my Spanish is like, first grade Spanish. So, I'm blessed enough to have a assistant coach who basically works part-time. He's a head coach for a local team in town, but he comes in home when he can and obviously he speaks fluent Spanish Catalan in English. So he helps a lot when he's there but he's our only guy on the defensive staff, who's fluent in Spanish the rest. When he's not there we have to wing it and he's not always with the DBS on the line because he's rarely with him so he's with me. But yeah I would say I got a lot of guys who know three to four languages English probably be in there worse for all of my d-linemen. Probably I have one guy from the UK and so English is a second language. He's actually born in Italy English as a second language but he's lived in the UK for 14 or so he speaks well enough that me and him obviously communicate the Best. Buy the rest of the guys, they range anywhere from kindergarten English to maybe conversational English, you know, to College English pub. Does this make you a better Coach having to basically speak football rather than speak English? If that makes sense, you're you're you're teaching and showing in a different way. Is that, is it pushing you in challenging you as a coach? It makes me a more creative coach for sure. I don't know if it always makes me better cuz I think you want to speak in black and white terms as much as possible as a coach, but it makes you find a way. Just like when I was coaching high school, I'd David Ellison. The kids have never seen half a drills. I was introduced into him. So I had to be very punctual and be very Visual and how I explained it. The great thing is visualization and kind of walking through a drill or walk watching film that has carry-over regardless, no matter. If they're speaking Japanese German or, or or English, or Spanish, when they see me do something and they see me walk through something else, it's good. But yeah, it makes me it makes me way more creative of a coach. Well, I guess in the long run, will probably make me a better Coach cuz I'll learn how to communicate with people literally from different countries, which is can only be a benefit for me. Naw, So here's something you may not know the answer to you grow up in Spain. How are you? How do you play football? I mean, is it through the high school? Is it through a club, like, how does one learn football in a country where it's not the predominant sport? So, this generation guys, the guys that are around our age or younger or a little bit older, they grew up with the Barcelona dragons of the NFL Europe, so they had a major television exposure. I believe, that's my guess off the generation before, then though, I have no idea how they would even consume American football, but I know they, you know, they show the Superbowl in Germany. Germany has a has an American football game basically, almost exclusive channel. That shows the Monday night game, the Thursday night game, I think the Sunday night game as well, they show a couple of games per week and prime time in Germany, Spain, you know, obviously it's huge, huge, huge soccer, this one of the soccer meccas of the world. but the guys, it's almost It's almost like the guys who play basketball or football for intramural College. That just kind of routed. They kind of rounded up the guys and maybe there was a head coach who saw that somebody was big or saw that somebody was fast and recruited him. But a lot of them, you know, me and my one co-worker, we came here and talked a lot of soccer and a lot of the kids told us, quite frankly, that they hate soccer and American football is their favorite sports. So, I stopped talking soccer clubs around most of the guys cuz they just a lot of them really love the game of football. That's super cool. That's awesome, man, I guess. Is there anything else you should tell me? I'm, I'm curious if there's anything else I'm forgetting to ask about cuz I, if you have more insight, I'm happy to hear stuff. Any any stories. Anything I should be asking about with the league. Is looking to expand. That's, that's a big goal of the league. I want to, I don't want to say they want to double maybe in the next coming years. And that may mean teams and, you know, England, or the Netherlands, or France, or Italy, but those those are not confirmed, but I think that would be huge for the league expansion. For the league would be huge. As we all know, there's a major major void in American football right now. The XFL is down, the usfl won't be back till the spring. The Canadian football league is. I mean it's a Canadian League. It's not quite a United States basically. So long, they're still the flaws that come with that system so I think expansion would be huge for this league and I just think honestly it's it's a good deal since it's like a European bread League. It's not just a bunch of Americans who are using this as second fiddle. It's a lot of Europeans that they're bringing up in the game that are eighteen. Nineteen, you know, college days kids that are growing in the game and I think that's what may make this legal action. Do you lose your best player? You have a best player to that. You're like this guy's a stud you know, there's a lot. They're they're learning man different guys. Pop every game where young in the season we have a lot of great young. Spanish guys. We have a really explosive receivers in a really explosive quarterback. Gene can start our, our American receiver, he separated himself for sure, I was out of everybody, but he kind of walked in EM to play some of the other guys are learning a bit and I'm sure by the end of the season, they'll be different guys to stand out. I want to know if you're a guy growing up right now, say you're you're Seventeen eighteen, nineteen in Spanish, why should they come play for you guys? Were the top level and in Spain were the top level, you know, we we compete with the six, best teams in Germany and, you know, six time in a row polish chap Poland. So we're by far, you know, the highest level of football you can play south of Germany and that's including France. That's including Portugal that's including Spain. That's including a we were the highest football that you can play by far and we're up there with the central European big boys, man. And if you have any aspirations of playing football, or you care about, or you want to get paid to play this game, this is the top. Level. So it's just a no-brainer, if you, if you like football and this is what you kind of want to do. Yeah, man, your stadium looks beautiful too. I watched your first game and there's a shot of the. Did you like a pan out of the whole scene? I'm like, man, you got the Green Mountains? The background. The sun was setting. I was like, man, that's a beautiful stadium. Is that, is that how it really is? Oh, it's awesome, dude. He reminds me of something in SoCal or he took a lot of so-called. This region is a lot like SoCal, the waters a bit warmer and the the temperature is a bit more stable. But, yeah, there's the mountains, which are in the near distance in the background and then talk about, you know, our stadium is about a fifteen-minute drive, from the Mediterranean Sea. So it's just a great set-up. It's very, very nice. You get in the Water Swimming early. I did, you know, when we weren't in season, we were kind of in training camp, but man, you'd be shocked. I don't get a lot of time and it's, it's pretty much choice and bustle. Go go go and being the youngest guy on the defensive staff. And the second youngest guy, on the whole style far kind of You know, I'm trying to hold my own a bit so not too much free time or fun time but when my older staff, people want to have some fun, you know, I grabbed on their to their coattails and and we have some fun for sure. Ma'am. Man to me, the good life is getting in the water every day. That's I mean, you know where I'm going. I oh, man, I loved it. The beach life is awesome. This is second to none. I want to ask you, you played college football in the SEC big-time division. One college football, I played the NFL a little bit recently, the NCAA basically was forced to allow, you know, college athletes to make money off of their name image and likeness. I'm curious when you saw that. What was your reaction as a former College athlete? Almost Happy for those guys, man, that's that's awesome. I'm watching my watching a lot of my former teammates, you know, take advantage of it. And something that people don't realize is walk-ins can do this as well. So maybe now I walk home doesn't have time to work out the car dealership, I work at a fast food or work, a city night shift, he can get money off his name and likeness by promoting, you know, a pizza joint or promoting a bar, or promoting a wing joint. And maybe you can make some viable money, where he doesn't have to work these crazy hours. Or you can do like, what dear King down in Miami has done their hosting kind of signing events or major elements for It's for the whole team, where they split the profits. So if your walk on man, you can go to that event, split some profit and you can have some cash to take home or maybe you can get better at your craft of playing football instead of worrying, about making money all the time, so that's awesome. That's kind of like the for me. That's like the, the unsung hero or the other, or The Unsung winter. And all of this is the walk home. Kid, who can monetize themselves and doesn't have to go work, a labor job or doesn't have to do another job for, you know, five hours out of their day anymore. It's insane. The guys who walk on, they, they have a job. They also have full time school and football is more than enough for full-time job. It's pretty crazy. The time, commitment. Those guys have that I am happy for them as well. You know what, the other people. I'm happy for the guys who have a lot of potential and might get hurt. You see often there's a guy every year. Who is Jake the NFL, you feel so good about him and in his last game he hurts his knee or his final C's and something happens and his draft stock Falls, a bunch. And maybe they never play again or maybe they would know they lose out on a ton of money. The NFL draft, it's those guys who I'm like, yes. Okay. These guys, it's so awful to have a guy look like they're set for life, tear an ACL and and having a major problem in lose a ton of money. And so, now, those guys can make money too. I just, I I for a long time have hated it in civil way. It drives me nuts. I still think they're underpaid these guys, but I'm happy to see guys make some money down. I think it's well deserved, at least minimum make money off her name image, and likeness. I'm curious, not everybody knows your story. Certainly people your age, some people here on this show right now, what I love about you you got your master's degree through your football scholarship. Can you tell that story and talk about that at all? Yeah, so I'm basically, you know, my summer summer, going to my senior year, I still had a year eligibility left. I'm a year of scholarship money left. And now, I've only had a half, a semester of football or semester of football left. And so, I kind of took to my adviser was, like, what can I do continuing education wise, besides, taking like a golf Clash or like a Ceramics class, and we just looked into a program and masters education. In fact, it was basically hybrid. You can do it all online or you can do it in person and online but for me, I was like, Hey I'm going to try to pursue the NFL. So why not do the all online version of it, you know, I did it off. Upgrade advisor at Mizzou and kind of, you know, playing ball is pretty humbling because even being like all-sec, there's still a separation like you play against Dukakis, God and you play against some of these top guys. And even in the top conference, they're still separation. Just like in the NFL, this Fringe NFL, guys, and then there's Tom Brady. So it was just humbling informed. I didn't see it as like, hey, I'm giving up on my dream. I just I seen it as like a kind of like a safety net or just like a cushion to brace my fall. If I ever fail wage, I take a semester off to pursue my NFL dreams cuz that was going to be impossible to try to make a roster. You know, I was I was doing training camp early, rookie training camp while doing my masters but I take her off and then I restarted it and was doing it through the XFL which was still hard work in a bunch of jobs, trying to, you know, make a pro roster and yeah man. But it was it was a game. A decision. Absolutely, to me, it seemed like you were looking at, as hey, if they're going to use me, I might as well. Use them kind of thing, like, I'm going to get everything I can out of this opportunity rather than taking underwater basket weaving. Is that accurate? Totally? And that's, that comes from more, the Juco mindset of we had junior year in college. You're you're pretty much roughing it. You are, you know, Mills are scarce, education is scarce. Financial aid is scares. People don't realize about Juco is if you go to California Juco, your your funding, it yourself. There is no scholarship. So you're funding it. Fully out of pocket. You've seen Last Chance. You've California schools. It's a whole different ball game. So, for me, going there, a lot of my class that I went to Missoula. I think I was the it was only two of us who had came from Juco and finished the three originally. But two of us came and finished and ironically, both of us kind of leeway straight into our career after football was done, because we had that real life experience, as Juco as far as, hey, man, you gotta work for what? Yep. And and so I just knew like hey football is not always promised and you gotta kind of make something for yourself, career-wise and and do something and and the Master's Degree was a way to do that man. And and it took way to use SEC football, the way that they use thousands and thousands of athletes that they've done for decades and decades. And it's not like, oh, this in your face. It was just it's a choice. I had just like, I was a resource to the University of Missouri marks. I want to say thank you so much for your time out of your busy. You gotta like going on, I think we're on a nine-hour time difference right now, when I got off of college Japan, which is 16 hours and I was trying to manage everything. I want to say real quick for you go, I remember you, graduated, you or number nine, I got your jersey. The one you wore literally, as my jersey, after you left off and it was shredded, this dude played so hard, your jersey was like, had holes in. It was ripped everywhere. I couldn't believe they kept it, and gave it to me and I just have always ever since I made, it's great to call you Frome. I appreciate your time and I'm rooting for in everything man. Thank you so much. I appreciate the exact and good luck on your move to Hawaii man. And enjoy the sun, dude, the Sun the water, dude. No I cannot wait, I got no space but I don't need any of the ocean. It's pretty big out there. So I'll be I'll be plenty, happy it is, it is watch out for sharks, man. I will, I will love you brother. Talk soon. I love you brother. Talked to him home. All right guys, it's all I have. Thank you so, very much for tuning in. I love you. I appreciate you. Hope, you have a great day. I will see you soon working on film analysis stuff. Not sure when I'm recording next could be a while. So just letting you know huge episode today. It's very long, I know that but the next one might not be for a while. So love you, appreciate, you have a great day but I'm bum. Bam, we are done.

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