20 Burst results for "12 Times"

Marvelous Marvin Hagler, Boxing Legend And Brockton Native, Dies At Age 66

WBZ Morning News

00:48 sec | 3 months ago

Marvelous Marvin Hagler, Boxing Legend And Brockton Native, Dies At Age 66

"Native Marvelous Marvin Hagler has died. His wife, Kay, posting on social media that Hagler passed away unexpectedly at his home in New Hampshire yesterday. Marvelous Marvin Hagler began his boxing career training, with the Petronella brothers and Brockton eventually raining as the undisputed Middleweight champion from 1982 1987 62 wins three losses to draws 52 knockouts in a career spanning from 1973 to 80 70 successfully defended his middleweight title, 12 Times. Before losing to Sugar Ray Leonard in a controversial decision at Caesars Palace in Vegas. Back in 87 he never fought after that moved to Italy got into acting marvelous Marvin Hagler passing away yesterday at the age of 66. President Biden

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"12 times" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

Newsradio 700 WLW

05:54 min | 5 months ago

"12 times" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW

"It looks like it could have been, You know, a flash in the pan A few good games, but now he's doing it consistently every week, and even when he doesn't have his best stuff, You get the feeling that if they're in a game, he can summon that for a quarter or two and pull it together and find a way to lead a driver to that against this team a chance, and that's something they haven't had. In probably 25 years at the quarterback position. I see they want to start talking contract extension with them. That's a wise move on their part, is it not? That certainly is. I think the earlier you get it done the smaller the price tag, but it will be a big contract on. I think there's interest on both sides and getting it done getting it done at a Out of, you know somewhat. Seem friendly manner. Look, there's still probably gonna pay somewhere in the range of 35 $45 million a year because that's just a going rate for quarterbacks, and it's only going up. But I think you know, in terms of length and structure. There's a way to make it happen so that Josh Allen doesn't sign a contract that causes the bills that have tear down the rest of the team around him. But that should be priority number one that they found the quarterback. Which is a hard thing to do in the NFL. Now they have to keep him on. Find a way to keep as much talent around him is possible because that's been a big factor in its success this year. Today, they face the Ravens again. Now, I think was 2009. They face the Ravens and they did a very good job. The Bills did a very good job containing Lamar Jackson. But as you point out in your article, Yeah, he didn't kill them on the ground, but he killed him with his arm. I think he threw three touchdown passes in that game. So let's talk a little bit about that containing Lamar Jackson. What kind of talk is there? About him and this game coming in. And how critical do you think the bills defense has to make somebody else beat them? Whether it's Gus Edwards or JK Dobbins or somebody like that? Yeah, He's been the focal point of a lot of conversations here in Buffalo and in and outside the building because Here, you know, much like Josh Alan here in Buffalo, Lamar Jackson and then the reason they've won some games. You know that game in Tennessee last week, he bought it off a couple 30 plus yard run and In that game that broken wide open, so I think containing him and limiting big plays is the big deal. You know, he chips away at you know, 50 or 60 rushing yards but have toe carry the ball, You know, 12 times to get there. They can probably live with that. But they don't want to see those 30 40 yard runs that like you mentioned, I think what gets lost a lot. You know, the conversation always become. In a week like this one out, just just make Lamar Jackson throw the ball. You know, as a zoo bill saw last year and you know the Bangles and seen as funny a team Justine. Guy can throw the ball Hey, can push the ball downfield and make plays marked. Andrews is a really good tight end Hollywood Brown is the guy that can get behind the defense and make a big play. So Think they have to guard against that a little bit, too. Yes, This is the most efficient, efficient Russian offense in the NFL of, you know, not just Lamar Jackson, but JK Dobbins and Gus Edwards, all three of those guys ranked in the top four in the NFL and producing 20 plus yard runs this season, so it's a really good rushing offense. If you You know, leave him too much in the passing game. He can hurt you that way. Even if he's only throwing for 200 yards, he can hit some big plays and hits him Touchdown, So I think they have to be a little bit careful there, especially the way they were. Chewed up by the cold, you know, with tight ends and over the middle of the field last week, Sometimes they need to be mindful of. Yeah, absolutely mad. Fair burners. Our guest he covers The Buffalo Bills for the athletic dot com you and I guess a couple of year Your fellow writers didn't really cool thing this week on the athletic you did a round table And you in essence basically held your own draft inside of those teams. Who would you take in round one is Your most valuable player and so on so forth through through several rounds. I thought it was interesting in the middle of this and round four. You took Dion Dawkins, the left tackle, and I think Dawkins is terrific. I'm not an expert on what left tackles ought to do, But I do know he's a very stout force on that offensive line. And the Ravens love to blitz. Dion Dawkins is probably somebody to watch inside the game is, you know Yeah, He certainly is. And like you, I'm not, you know, proficient or an expert in offensive line technique, But I know enough to know that that guy is arguably the most important guy on their offensive line. He certainly their best offensive lineman, and he paid that way and You mentioned that the Ravens put more than any team in the NFL last year, they destroy Josh Allen with bullets in that game. Now, Josh Allen has been the best quarterback in the NFL against the blitz tissues, and that's one of the areas he's grown in. Most but You still have not just the blitz, but you have to be able to contain when the Ravens only go with four rushers because that might be one there. They're most dangerous at times is if they're able to get pressure before or five consistently. They don't after Send six guys at the quarterback. That's when they could be dangerous. So you know Dion docket regardless of who is matched up against whether if he met Judy and Matt Jude on Around that the class Campbell it I'm they have guys that can win one on one on that rave inside, and when they send extra Russia, it can muddy up the responsibilities and the protection. Dawkins will be a big deal until well, you know the interior of that offensive line, which the colt exploited a decent amount in.

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Manny Ramirez, 48, Brings His Bat to the Sydney Blue Sox

Bloomberg Daybreak: Asia

00:17 sec | 6 months ago

Manny Ramirez, 48, Brings His Bat to the Sydney Blue Sox

"48 Year old 12 time Major League Baseball All star Manny Ramirez will play for the city blue socks. The Australian Baseball League with season set to begin on Thursday. Ramirez, who's been suspended twice for violating baseball's drug policy. Has played in the minor leagues, China and Japan since his major league last at bat for Tampa in

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Trump senior advisers dissuaded president from military strike on Iran

Lars Larson

00:46 sec | 7 months ago

Trump senior advisers dissuaded president from military strike on Iran

"Ordering the Pentagon to draw down the number of American forces in Iran and Afghanistan before inauguration day, but reportedly considered a military strike against Iran after the United Nations Atomic Agency said Iran was stockpiling nuclear material last week. Fox News has confirmed President Trump was considering using military force against Tehran. He'd been looking for offensive options, but senior advisers recommended against it, saying it could spark a wider regional conflict. However, the president may consider targeting Iranian allies like militias in Iraq. The international inspectors are reported to have said around was producing 12 times the amount of uranium It was allowed under the Obama era. Iranian nuclear deal Till

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"12 times" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

Newsradio 970 WFLA

02:09 min | 11 months ago

"12 times" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

"Coming up 12 times a day on NewsRadio wofl, a assault of the federal government on Jack Kelehan Fox News. That's what Attorney General William Barr will call continuing protests in Portland when he testifies to the House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday, According to his prepared remarks obtained by Fox News, The attorney general will tell lawmakers what's happening nightly in Portland cannot reasonably be called a protest. Portland's mayor, said Wheeler demanding a meeting with acting Homeland Security Secretary Chan Wolf after refusing Wolf's invitation to me just a few weeks ago, the mayor also joining colleagues with an appeal to Congress. Wheeler has tweeted out a copy of a letter signed by the mayor of Chicago, Seattle, Albuquerque, Washington, D. C. In Kansas City. Demanding that Congress passed legislation that stops the administration from sending federal agents into their cities. Kansas Chicago in Albuquerque, are getting assistance from the FBI and others to help solve crimes. Portland, Seattle and D. C got agents to deal with protest actions like protecting federal property. The mayor's residents are exercising their First Amendment rights and call the federal use of force egregious. But they do not mention the increasing crime rates in some of these locations, nor the attempts to destroy federal property taxes. Jessica Rosen fall in a Monday night tweet President Trump says the protesters that were actually sick and deranged anarchists and agitators who would destroy American cities. Wilderness says it has begun injecting volunteers with its experimental Corona virus vaccine the final phase of its clinical testing. President Trump's, speaking at a facility in North Carolina Monday, says the U. S. Has made great progress against the virus, the mortality rate for patients over the age of 18 His 85% lower than it was in April. Think of that 85% Dr Anthony Fauci of the White House Corona Virus Task Force tells Fox News. This is the quickest of vaccine has ever entered Phase three clinical trials. He expects the results from the tests in mid to late fall. America is listening to Fox News from the mosque, Nissan Traffic Center on South bound to 75 2 right.

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"12 times" Discussed on Habits and Hustle

Habits and Hustle

02:58 min | 1 year ago

"12 times" Discussed on Habits and Hustle

"When you did your own show. Was it like the reality show on on a was that was okay another thing. Why did you do it? I don't understand why you said yes to that because it was something I mean who could ever say like. Oh I have my own reality TV show. I think it's something different on the only thing I did not like is I had no control on what they put on. It was like an reality. Tv is not reality. Tv 'cause we would do scenes and I would say something like all right well. Let's Redo this scene in. Lets you say it this way and I'm like well I wouldn't say that but I did it anyways. And so that's the piece that's not me like what the hell also this whole thing. I mean but I mean I mean I had my own. Tv show. I met so many famous people because of it like it was pretty cool because of that. I thought you'd meet a million famous people just from your swimming career oath but I mean I got into a new era like I got into a new genre lake. Tv so that was pretty cool. Can you also did another entity like big brother or was it? Hold on celebrity big brother. I just did that lake two years ago so I did that. That was really cool. I liked bag and experience with that. Yeah how long they're like. What's the process that I don't know I got kicked out the second week de? I'm the second person to leave because I was a big threat because I was athletic. Really like a whole game. It's like a mind game thing like in so it's basically you're in a house cameras all over the place and you talk to people eat fruit like that's all you do and like they're watching your every move basic every. Move when you're sleeping when you if you scratch your but like an. There's like mirrors all around the house. So it's like you can walk up to the ear and be like are you. Are you in there like everything all my gosh and so? Are you sharing a room with some other coa sharing a room with you? Wish you share a room with a bunch of other people now. I know you share your room like the person I shared my room with. I was of share my room. I can't even remember Tom Green he was. He was one of my roommates in the beginning. Tom Creative.

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"12 times" Discussed on Habits and Hustle

Habits and Hustle

04:34 min | 1 year ago

"12 times" Discussed on Habits and Hustle

"Natural feel for water and natural gift. My strokes were all pretty and So University of Florida is a very hard university to like for training for swimming wise. It's very hard school because they do. It's old school. It's like let's let's just grind grind grind and in my events that I was getting chosen for go get a scholarship whereas the freestyle events and I was like the ninth or tenth fastest in the US for seniors out of high school. So all these colleges are really looking at the nine or ten faster guys than me. There is not many scholarships and needed a full ride so at the last minute everyone turned down. University of Florida and the coach came and said I have a full ride waiting for you like do you want like what? I'm packing my bags right now. I'm out of here. Wow I signed the scholarship and everything and went to Florida and it was. I just remember one of my coaches at the time is like all these colleges didn't want you lake every time you go to the swimming blocks like you have to like stick it to him just because like they didn't want you and you gotta prove him wrong right right. When that happened I started. I started training a lot harder. I drew like five inches. I went to six to a hundred ninety four pounds of muscle and it was just I helped. Yeah and after my freshman year I was like wow like you know what I think I can make a name for myself in this sport like I think I can do this so I even went So going into my sophomore year was two thousand and four and that was my goal is making the two thousand four Olympics but I had like the longest outside shot but I mean it was something that I wanted to do and I just kept training on staying focused. You know having fun on just getting better every day and finally in two thousand four. I had the opportunity in I I made my first Olympic team and I got a gold medal and a silver medal at my first Olympics. I remember I mean I remember you when I was a little girl. All and you're like the key so cute it was like that's what I remember about away. That's what I remember. I Guy. He's a good swimmer. But you were like the cute like hop guy on the team and like you had like such a crazy trajectory. You know like I remember Michael. Michael Phelps right became but like you weren't that far away you know what I mean like. It wasn't how far you weren't that far away. You know and like I kind of re. I remember you were like there's like a moment like not a moment like a big moment where that was like when the whole you became like a huge. I wouldn't say like a sex symbol kind of you're working on the cover of the magazines. You remember. Remember all this right. That must've been less than a wild moment for you but before I went on a long time ago I talked I now while it was I started getting As like the Rockstar. Were on in. That was like kind of persona of just because I wasn't like a normal Olympian like normal. Olympia is like you think they train they eat. They sleep they do this. They're like a robot. They do this every day. They have nothing else me. That was the complete opposite swimmer. Just a sport that I like to do like it doesn't define who I am so I did everything else possible. I was just crazy going out all night. And you can't hear me or no. No go ahead known. I want to hear this or going all the parties and all these parties all these red carpet events But still trading on it was just I was just being really foolish not but.

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"12 times" Discussed on Habits and Hustle

Habits and Hustle

10:06 min | 1 year ago

"12 times" Discussed on Habits and Hustle

"Habits and Hustle. This is technically. This is our first pot. Actually our second podcast. While we've been quarantined and basically staying home and so we've had some technical difficulty and the first time so hopefully this time will be a better so thank you for being patient and I. Of course it's great to have you so. Ryan. Let's start with the obvious which is now that the Olympics. Oh Jeez what happen here. Well well now that the Olympics has been canceled. What happens now like? Are you happy that you have another year to train or and you kind of bombed? Because now you're thinking Oh shit up another year. I have to be training this hard for like what's your what's your take on that. When we first found out about it I was kinda upset just because I mean I've been trained for four years. We'll actually pay me here is more like to but I was just put a lot of hard work and I was ready. My body was ready. My mind was ready and I was ready to go in crush which was hopefully hopefully my fifth Olympics and they said it was getting postponed in just like I was really bummed just because that means I have another full year of training in gap back. Ready getting my mind setback and it was just a lot an especially for me at the age of thirty five. I'll be thirty six in August so I'll be thirty seven going into the next Olympics and that's really really unheard of in the sport of swimming now. Yeah you're getting up there for sure. I mean that's W- that's another thing. I had a certain about being like well. Can My body handle everything because the training that I do here? University of Florida is just. It's intense I want to get Thomas. I want to know what to get to the level. Of course that you you're like aren't you? The number two most CR- the best best swimmer of all time basically according to the Olympic medals and all that stuff behind Michael Phelps. Is that still right? So I mean even get close to that level right the training the mindset that discipline it had a what goes into it. Can you just give me like a day in the life of like what a training regiment looks from like from a from a physical standpoint from a mental standpoint? Like what do you what happens. So basically you're waking up around seven seven thirty getting breakfast going to the pool and you swim for about two to two and a half hours which you do anywheres about wealth. Romy I do anywheres about four to five miles in that practice of swimming. And then afterwards I go weights which is anywhere I do a little lifting on cardio a lot of ads of stuff like that. That'd be that for like an hour hour and a half then I go home. I'm able to take a nap. I take a nap in then. I go back to afternoon practice on in the afternoon from like to know about three two three two seven. Do another Forty miles of swimming. Snow women what does that have to do in that? I am or From Monday to Saturday practice in the swimming pool nine times each time swim. It's about four to five miles and I do weights three times a week and ads in cardio three times a week so if you put that altogether it's about forty hours thirty to forty hours of training but are you doing that. Like leading up to the trail leading up to the Olympic training. Or is it like what does when does it look like on just to kind of maintenance because that sounds to me like that would be something? You're doing that like all year round doing that pretty much all year round. If there's like a month before the Olympic trials or the Olympics I start tapering down Saul start doing less yardage unless weights and just kinda clean up on certain things but for the most part it's just grinding day in day out. That's okay so I mean I have a bazillion questioned for your just from like the the ability to kind of stay disciplined with that stuff because it doesn't get boring ever here. I go again and swim again. I gotta go to that level that many hours a day. I mean that's basically more than half of your day doing sleeping and that that's that's basically I mean it mean Zoll yeah a cardio women was cardio it is but I mean we do. We do stuff outside the pool like I like taking kid in my son play basketball like stuff like a we go on family bike rides on just anything like that just because if. I just thought about swimming just did swimming day in day out like output swimming. I need to be doing something else and luckily I have two beautiful children. That just keeps me going. Yeah so I think that's one of the hardest things especially on being my age and being a father is you. Don't have the luxury of like. Oh I'll just you know. Take an ad right now or I can. Just go get a massage. I can just do this in like having my quiet time in you. Don't get that I now I get it. Yeah it's very frustrating at times but I mean it's Blessing I love it. I mean a sounds. Like your schedule's very hectic and I'm sure now with the training will now that we're kind of quarantine. How are you training? Are you able to still practice and swim or like what are you doing right now? I am trying to stay sane like most of us. Yes it is It's it's insane Swimming there is no swimming because they shut down every pool so right now. It's just stained fit. I have a bunch of weights in my garage that I could still get on weight programs from my weight coach so I can still do that. And then like I said family bike rides allot came. We walks in a bunch of ads in the house. You name just trying to do everything. How do you stay motivated? I mean not just now with a quarantine but I guess overall like not even do another Olympics. Now what is your what is. Let's start with how you how you how you staying motivated to trade when we're locked in our house day in day out. I mean there's not much it's like it's like groundhog's Day and it's very very easy to Kinda like fall slump and then not have that motivation. I guess what is your motivation? How it moves keeping me going is my goals. I want to make my fifth Olympics and and I want to get another gold medal. I mean that is my biggest skull and I WANNA do that. No one accomplish that in. I know if I fall short on at the end of the day. I don't WanNa have. What if what if I just kept going in swimming? Would I have done it? What I got my Seth Olympics when I got another gold medal on my never wanna say what if so That is definitely one of my goals that I want to do. That's what keeps me going every day and my family. I want to do this for my family. That's a good reason. Now let me put back from longtime ago. Why swimming I don't know much shit. Oh why why did you were you just after kid in the pool when you swam did always love swimming. What was like what was the reason. I was actually not a good swimmer. Growing up get beat by girls in practice and stuff really. I loved being in the water like I could be having the worst day but once I stepped foot in that water everything just disappears. I'm happy it's like my home. I'm like so calm. Unlike in everything swimming Kinda came easy to me because I was just. I had a natural feel for the water so learning new techniques learning new strokes or anything like that. It became really easy to me because I was just. It was just one with the water. I guess So even though you weren't really you weren't amazing in terms. You weren't like your girls. Were beating you like. You said you liked it and so you kind of stayed with it. Sounds like and got better mean well.

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"12 times" Discussed on Open Floor

Open Floor

04:09 min | 2 years ago

"12 times" Discussed on Open Floor

"Because it was that was kind of a preview of a torch passing that will probably happen over the next year or two but that game where it was Yonathan. Lebron? I remember just being like, whoa. Okay. So this is the level Jaanus is gonna be on. That is an even LeBron you could tell at points in that game was like, okay. So this is this is. Honest. Here we go L is pretty awesome. I would have been really cool to be at that game. Can you imagine that being your first game? Like, I'm picturing your I remember your first wizards game. No. I remember the first game. I saw in the Verizon center was VIN bakers, Seattle SuperSonics soothes a bit of a letdown of forget who is on that wizards team. But yet it was and really if you think about it the odds of getting to a game, that's actually good. If you're first game is a regular season. NBA game are pretty slim. You know, a lot of these games. You gotta have to like to now to really enjoy. But to be locked into a real battle is awesome. Like good for that guy. No, it's incredible. And like I think my first game. I tells the story that Clyde Drexler guy jetted, and I just went to the concourse and started crying. I don't know. How young I was. But so I did not get the classic. That are a little Hobie got very excited for all. Right. This third lantern story. It's a little bit different little change of pace. This is more the love category rather than the basketball category. Andrew it comes from a guy named off mad, and he writes, my me, and my girlfriend had been dating for six years now unbeknownst to my parents, my parents were born and bred and Pakistan, and they got married and an already had kids by the time. They were my age Twenty-three. They don't seem to understand the idea of not wanting to get married until later on in life after being established also a heavily faith-based upbringing because my parents are staunch Muslims and marrying someone away from your religion Islam is generally frowned upon. Unfortunately, my girlfriend grew up app to. This then learned about Catholicism when her parents split up and her dad remarried, so she's still figuring things out from a religious standpoint. Then he writes for all this time. I was dreading the day that I would summon the courage to speak to my parents fearing severe backlash a level of disappointment. I didn't think I would be able to bear. What if they didn't accept by girlfriend? My parents, and I have had very different cultural upbringings, and it's created a divide between our mentalities, although the conversation was incredibly difficult, and we're still working through things. My trepidation was met with mostly positively. They knew how much strife I'd felt and although although they haven't fully embraced our relationship. They made sure to let me know that they will always be there for me. I'd say that conversation was both necessary and worth it in the long run. I'm sorry to turn your podcast into therapy. Our although hopefully, this could inspire someone who. Who's in a similar situation to let down there in habitual and go for it? What do you think Andrew has off med provided necessary love advice to the entire open floor globe? That is nominal that. Literally brightened my day little life-affirming anecdote there. Yeah. Absolutely. That's this is Thursday's version of Ernie Grunfeld being fired by the wizards. It's like there is hope in the world things get it's a basic get better of. No, that's actually a very cool story. I'm happy for them. It's a beautiful story. Andrew, and you can see what I did here. Okay. It's a narrative arc. I started. With me being chased by dogs and April angst. And we ended with two of the most heart warming stories that we've ever heard from. And this is the hope that I mean aunt you the hope of the playoffs are just around the corner. And so I want everybody else to open their hearts up. You know, let down there in habitual like off med says and get really ready fired up for the basketball games. That's about to matter that are coming right around the corner..

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"12 times" Discussed on Open Floor

Open Floor

03:40 min | 2 years ago

"12 times" Discussed on Open Floor

"But in another sense, you know, at least we didn't drop down to like d one AA basketball. So that's victory for sure I brought that up actually because kind of talking to people about this wizards opening I was surprised how much respect there is out there for Ted Leonsis among other leagues. Gives. I think part of it is because he has stepped up and paid as guys and you've brought the point like they didn't handle it always the best like somebody's restricted free agencies. Got a little bit weird. They just, you know, backed up to bring struck for John wall. But like if you're an executive you care most about your ownership cutting the checks, right like keeping the players. You wanna keep and I think other executives really appreciated that about Ted Leonsis paid while he paid Bill. He paid porter. I mean, even painting Andre Blatch, you know, and even and amnesty them, right? So I think that bodes well for you if he can just pick the right president guy who knows kind of how to maneuver into operate things and he can put his financial backing behind this team. And kind of come to an understanding. Maybe the the future will be a little brighter for you there in DC, Andrew. Yeah. I mean over the years there have also been some decisions that have led to some grumbling from me on this side of the phone call where it's just like really why are we just going to sell every single second round. Like, I don't know if that's the smartest strategy. I think sometimes Teves use those and find some value there. But. You they've traded their next five second round picks. That's a true fact, did you know that two thousand nineteen twenty twenty one twenty two twenty three you got a couple of coming back. But wherever is stepping in for Ernie is gonna need to generate some second round pick Sam hinkie's style. I can promise you that. It was actually pretty funny. Like, I wrote about the wizards this week for Thursday, and I had kinda make a call. It was like, you know, I could go through every move that pissed me off or just linked to some chart of stuff done and just kind of allude to it. I don't to get into it. It's going to derail the whole conversation. So I I liked it for option B. But yet the the five second round picks thing, they're all kinds of moves along the way. And it is that's one where like the main issue. I would have with Ted again, he's world's better than the Chechen owner and Swiss soccer, but I do wish that he would be a little bit more. Ambitious in terms of where he expects the wizards to be in the league because a lot of years. It was like we're just trying to get to the playoffs or that the goal is the playoffs. And like sometimes you have to take a step back to take two steps board and the wizards never really recognized that as an organization which could just as easily be on Grunfeld as it is. Yeah. But I was going to say so I mean if I was a candidate for this job. I would be preaching that message hard because I think Ted wants to be viewed like even his the statements. He's making like let's turn this into this world class team is the best job on the market like he's laying it on pretty thick there. But like if you're the new young young candidate coming in cell that vision, you know, no more mediocrity. We're going to break out of this. This is a sleeping giant organization. I mean, you know, something like that. I think could help get you the job because I don't think that Ted wants to be viewed as this thirty five win team. That's about to get laughed by sixteen year old trae young, I think he wants to be a mover and shaker sorta like he is in hockey. Absolutely. He's a forward thinking business. Man. And I hope that he becomes a forward thinking basketball owner because that hasn't always been his role over the last ten years, but we'll see where it leads hit me with a second lantern..

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"12 times" Discussed on Open Floor

Open Floor

01:43 min | 2 years ago

"12 times" Discussed on Open Floor

"During the first summer of the new ownership that Chechen magnet purchase players that were way out of the league of my local club as a kid. I was quite excited for things to come. Maybe I could finally see my. Team win a championship for the first time in my life. But things started getting fishy when the guy changed the logo of the historic club to make it just whatever he wanted. It got even worse from their sponsors left. Chechen traditional dance videos were being played on the stadium screen. At the end of games with creepy music playing. Remember, the sponsor said laugh so there wasn't much to advertise anymore. Three months in. It turns out that mister Bulaq Chagas. I've had no clean money at all. And the players had been getting paid the entire time. The club went bankrupt and Bulaq fled. So then that left the team relegated to the fifth Swiss division. I was heartbroken my entire childhood gone. But with the help of local business people in volunteers the club worked its way up the divisions this year seven years after bankruptcy. It is finally back in the first division fighting against relegation and doing decently well with a relatively tiny budget. I am absolutely thrilled. And even watch the games from Toronto. Where I study eventually I hope the team will reclaim its title. As a household name. And the Chechen mistake. Will be forgotten the moral here is don't sell your football team to someone who's doing business with Khaderah off the Chechen dictator the nets got lucky..

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"12 times" Discussed on Open Floor

Open Floor

04:05 min | 2 years ago

"12 times" Discussed on Open Floor

"And everyone in Boston is freaked out by the state at your offense. But he is still going to be able to create offense in the half court for that Celtics team. Once you get to the playoffs, or at least he still has the potential to do that which makes him really valuable. And I think he's probably the biggest X factor for Boston this spring if they can get something out of him. They can really do some damage. Get scary as they get closer to May June. So I'm not giving up on him yet. Even though if you look at the last two months, three months like Jalen Brown has unquestionably been the better player. There's talk about potentially benching Jason Tatum like it's been aware year for him, and he was over hyped. But I think now he might be a little bit underrated. Because so many people are kinda like piling up like he's still special in some ways that other guys aren't he's got things that Jalen Brown is never going to be able to do. Yeah. I'm still in on him. You know, I I would be selling the stock. I mean, it's been kind of funny to watch someone who doesn't like the Celtics I machine, and it's been very joy -able to have all this play out. But it's he's gonna be great. He's going to be an all star. Maybe not maybe not twelve could be a while. It's all he gets one. Yeah. Well, he's a better situation longevity. He no he is needs better point guard. If you can just get a better point guard, it'll be fine. He the deal Tate of is thick of him as a future all star. Don't think of him as a future. MVP who's untouchable in Anthony? Davis trade discussions, and that's actually another factor too. As we as we forecast his future out. No, I hope for his sake. He doesn't end up in New Orleans. But maybe that's where this is all headed either way. They'll this spring him should luggage, really interesting. If he gets traded to New Orleans, we're revising twelve time down to two time. I mean, it might be two or three times the west is tougher on its own couple more questions here. Tom says regarding last week's discussion on the lottery and lottery reform. I feel like the new rules have made the tanking even worse instead of the usual two to three teams vying for the worst record you now have ten to twelve teams tanking because a couple more losses can double the chances of a top four pick. I think he's overstating. At their to some degree. I I wouldn't put the number at ten to twelve it does kind of seem like the entire bottom tier of the league has been losing over the last couple weeks maybe month or so like everybody recognizes that if you can get into that bottom seven the you actually have a pretty decent shot at landing in the top three or four and that's worth tanking for. Yeah. I I haven't studied this issue carefully. Mrs more of a gut feeling, but I do feel like the agrees tanking is not as bad this year as it wasn't pastures. So it may have been just delayed a little bit may have been soften just touch. It may be that. We're not seeing as many truly awful like sons level teams at the very bottom. But to me, the the respectability factor in the average game this year has been up, and I do think it was a real problem the last couple of years. So I don't know if it's going to say, it's like a sweeping change. Maybe it's just a marginal change. But I think that maybe the emailer. Sufferings from April anx to look there's been some ugly and on watchable basketball games here lately. But I think on balance or in the aggregate the is in a healthier spot than it was the previous year. That's probably true. And they they have moved the inflection point down the board a little bit to where you have these half. These teams who are incentivized to go and lose where they can. But you're right that the entire season. If you're looking the last six or seven months has felt less tankeea than it did over couple like over the last five or six years. So that's a that's a win for the league. And probably exactly what they were trying to achieve..

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04:06 min | 2 years ago

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"I can't wait to see that another international guy. We should throw in here, though, is Ben Simmons. And I know you're a little bit lower on him too. But we're talking about number one overall pick almost averaging triple doubles all NBA candidate all-star already in a second season. He's going to be right in the middle of his prime. You know, he's another guy who could could be crashing that party. But we've we've got some other American candidates to but the depth of young players coming from outside the country is is pretty remarkable. I mean Jomo Murray from Canada, you know, we can keep going down the list here. There's a lot of guys. Yeah. And this was in the ten thousand words story. I. Did on international people over the last. I think that came out last winter, but it is pretty interesting to think about where the NBA was in the middle of the last decade when it was Spurs pistons and every game was played in the eighties and the two things that have changed since then the two biggest things actually three things number one. Lebron set a different standard for superstars than had been set in the decade before he came to the and the and everything professionalized among superstars who wanted to take ownership of their own careers, take care of their bodies three hundred sixty five days a year that made a big difference. But the other two things are pretty much directly correlated to the international influence because the game was opened up and started to look a lot more like the European game. And everybody started a flourish as a result. And so the offense got better, and it just a it's ten times more entertaining than it was ten years ago. And then also. So like, you said like the depth of talent you add ten or fifteen guys from around the world who are also at an elite level, and suddenly we've got like thirty or forty great players in the NBA, or at least thirty like we could fill out a couple more all NBA teams without putting any like embarrassments on there, which is kinda crazy to think about yet. I actually think the under twenty five inter national talent is even like more sizable than if you're just saying like thirty best guys. Right. Like, if you're saying, okay. Let's just pick like a team of the best players who are under twenty five right now, there'd be an outsized portion of international players in any other time, which is cool. And I think it's only going to continue like, I think. USA we have to step our came up a little bit. Well, speaking of needing to step our game up. Michael says at what point did everyone that's involved with the NBA decide that Jason Tatum is a mega celebrity. He's been in so many commercials. And he's currently sponsored by Gatorade taco shop's. Pizzerias Nike does he really deserve to already be a marquee player in the NBA. So then what do you think of the state of twelve time Tatum at this point in the season? Michael pay attention, smart gnaws, we told you the moment that he became a certified superstar was Las Vegas summer league. When he started getting around as a twelve time all star twelve time Tatum. Right. Then right there. I mean, look, it's the Celtics machine. You know, he deserves a chunk of it. He's an very interesting player. I think the backlash might be a little bit too strong here. Yeah. But if he's playing on a random team the level. He's talked about the endorsement opportunities is significantly smaller. I mean, the Eastern Conference is just so thirsty for anything. They can call star that they'll elevate almost anybody. Well, here's the thing. His his shooting has really fallen off this year. But as much as I would love to pile on with the rest of Celtics haters who are now hating on Tatum and delighting in his kind of regression this season. And the reality check that Celtics fans are enduring I do think that he is still pretty special. Ed, he'll have moments in the half court as I'm watching the Celtics games where I'm like, I understand you haven't hit it three for six weeks..

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02:48 min | 2 years ago

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"Thank you for saying that can you imagine? If one of the top ten most famous players in the league during David Stearns era had tweeted out t d for Tim Donigi after. A disputed call where you know, his teammates wound up getting fine. And he only got fined thirty five thousand dollars, and that's dream on green who did that after his teammates had had this whole social media campaign making fun of Mark Coogan or have you pronounce his name the referee. What do you think stern would find Draymond for that two million? I mean, how would that have how long would that have been arbitration three years four years end? There's no way he's giving him a thirty thousand dollar fine. I promise you that. I thought all the fines, and look I'm not trying to go in anyone else's pockets. But I did think that the fines were a little bit tame, given how crazy the warriors were after that gave it's one thing if it's heat of the moment, but that was like remember -tated, we're gonna go after this guy. And I think Steph got like fifteen grand k- or no Katie fifteen grand step got twenty five grand. I dunno. I thought you could have gone a little bit harder to send a message that you stand with the refs. But yes, David Stern would be. You'd be definitely talking six figures with some of this stuff honestly would have been suspended. And I'm not saying there could have been suspensions. Don't you think? I mean, like when you're calling into question, the integrity of the sport. Which is what they said in their Email that serious business. And like, I I'm with you. I don't wanna be saying we need to be finding this player this many dollars. I mean, it's not my decision. But I do think it's something that Adam silver should be taking really seriously, especially because he's out here at symposiums talking about gambling and all the stuff constantly. It's a clear priority for him. I would like to see him defend the league, and especially defend the wraps a little bit more aggressively than he has so far. Yeah. And that's that's the main point is like, we're not super pro wrath either. But like there should just be more mutual respect than there has been for most of the season at particularly Haas month. So I don't know. I mean, you look at a guy like amyloid, he's an example for children, Andrew, I think we're pretty pro wrestling go around we could single guys who rate role models. We sound like to sound like two cops on this podcast. But Kevin says your conversation few weeks ago about Jaanus and Embiid got me thinking, how likely is it that in two thousand twenty five four of the top five NBA players will be non American. I'm thinking, of course of Jaanus and bead Yokich and Luca. What do you think?.

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03:15 min | 2 years ago

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"Right. It's like man like you're going to be the man of the year. We're going to give you the ball. You're going to get a lot of minutes. Don't worry about it. And with transit was like, we're going to be the first thing that pays you. 'cause we're the first thing they figured out how to use you if you're Houston, and you don't make that trade are you able to keep those guys on the same contract numbers. Given what roles they would have available as you know, part of hardens cast, probably not. So you may not even have both those guys at this point. They may have moved on somewhere else. So that's another reason why you cash them in when you do. Okay. There we go. Let's keep it moving. We're. Gonna bounce all over the place here, you know, end of the season. No rules. Nobody's probably even listening. You know, they're listening. They're listening. They are we got the eagles. We got the eagles complaining about our forty five minutes of Zion talk, which is a little fair. But you know, whatever Austin says, I hate nothing more than fans and players complaining about the refs. So why not take out human rests entirely and let artificial intelligence blow the whistle. If the tech isn't there yet, it will be very soon who would win or lose in this scenario will first of all I think we could say the human refs would probably take the l in this scenario Wellesz what he's our fat L our. Well, I'm now picturing like Draymond green. Like scaling the scores. Table to grab a computer. Just like throw it onto the ground after an artificial intelligence referee rules against him or maybe Kevin Durant Pudge punching a robot on the court when he gets us. Excessive celebration technical don't we need to know where the tech is. I I mean, I understand that. They've really used a lot of technology in sports like tennis to eliminate some of the huge human judgment Ariza. Right. But I think refereeing live motion basketball game is actually too hard for any robots that we've got that's a controversial take. But I don't know about robot technology, but I wanna see these robots actually able to do it prove it because the ones I see floating around like mash -able videos. It's like, wow, this robot like figured out how to turn a handle and like open door. Okay. Congratulations. You're not going to be able to officiate the live action five on five movement of NBA players. Come up. Yeah. Well, first of all be careful what you say here because one day the robots are going to be able to go back and listen to every podcast we've ever recorded in the span of about ninety seconds. And they're gonna hear that you on their side. Arba side. I've always been pro technology, and Jillian I love robots, and I welcome our new overlords. I think ultimately, I probably is better for society. If we're all under their care. No. That's the wrong. Take you had it right at the beginning. And throw you up. Okay. Here's the deal robots and replay even gonna include replay in this like you have this allusion of certainty and heightened accuracy that I don't know man, if you actually like watch some of these replace a lot of them are too close to call, and you're always gonna have this sort of gray area and adding robots to the Mississippi going to make any they actually more accurate..

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04:22 min | 2 years ago

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"But at the same time like he'll still pull up for threes in transition where you're just like, dude, you're one of eight from three and the the thunder are so much better. When you just kinda get into the lane and pass the people in and finish at the rim. But he just he has his shots that he's gonna take whether they're going in or not. So he's on my list. I'm just going to say right now you one because. Like now that you've really laid this out. I realize that I I enjoy watching Westbrook less than any of the players that I had on my list. Okay. Good. I'm just trying to be honest here and number three's. Tim duncan. We went over that. Number two is coral alone. Glad we agree on that one number one may be a little controversial. And he's not number one. I don't know. I don't enjoy all these guys equally. Okay. But like Kobe through his prime who was a pretty brutal watch. And I he's great. I've enjoyed kind of the grumpy Onkelinx persona that he's a dumped it over the years Kobi in decline when he would just kinda curse through every interview like Kobe. Character is fine. Kobe the player was never my favorite. Guess you kind of drew the line at the bullying of the teammates. I if I'm imagining you really standing up for smoked Parker and just being like come on, man. That's not needed. No, I actually like all the like Koby mythology behind the scenes like this guy is a psychopath. I just like watching that dude. Pull up from nineteen feet for beta weighs twenty five times. A game got very old midway through the two thousand and you could even throw in shack. I think it's actually a little bit dishonest for me to have Coby on here. Not shack like those Lakers years were not great for the entire league. But yeah, didn't love Koby and the other nomination that I had which is kind of a couldn't really pick one. But I will say the only Eastern Conference team. I enjoyed for the entirety of the two thousand right up until you got that Celtics dynasty in two thousand eight or it's not not really a dynasty the only one title. But like until that nucleus. The only Eastern Conference team. I truly. Loved was the Milwaukee Bucks would Sam Cassell and big dog. And Ray Al in the they were great. But like every other Eastern Conference contender was pretty brutal to watch those years. I mean, basically from every year since Jordan, I think we can agree on that. Right. I mean, it's been pretty. Not just kidding. That's it's it's very important to appreciate where the east is now because ten or fifteen years ago, it was so much worse than we even remember. No doubt about it. Without lebron. It's it would have been a nightmare for twenty or straight. Look, I'm not as down on Koby as you are. But I see where you're coming from. And I do think you should prepare to get a lot of this April angst that I was talking about earlier. I don't know how well that takes going to go over with the internet read, it might be a little with you. I love that. We started the pod talking about April angst. And then spent twenty minutes talking about our least favorite players ever. But yeah, that's fine. If Kobe haters wanna flood our in box. I get it. I'm not saying he's overrated necessarily just in love watching him play. And with that, Ben. Should we move forward? Yeah. Well, we just we had a haters ball for half an hour. So we probably should what else we got. All right. So he says this week Zach Lowe road article about the clippers bench, and it got me thinking about the two thousand seventeen trade of C P three to the rockets with Paul hampered by injuries declining because of age and making north of forty million dollars for the next three years would the rockets being a better situation going forward, if they hadn't made that trade, what do you think? No. And I think that this framing Chris Paul is just still wrong. Andrew I understand that. He's not the guy he was two or three years ago. Chris Paul can still ball. I saw him last night. He is shaking people out of their shoes..

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03:38 min | 2 years ago

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"He had a couple of playoff series that were absolutely spectacular that I covered in person unique talent kind of you know, there's not going to be another Rondo really he probably the game probably pass him by in terms of style of play over these last couple of years. And of course, a big entry kind of change the trajectory of his career, but the stat hunting the assist patting the lack of defense for years and years despite his reputation as kind of a positive defender, the personality issues, you know, just hearing coaches, and assistant coaches that worked with him just a horror stories, you know. And then this whole myth of like how he's his great mentor for the younger players kind of coming along the last couple of years, that's knit man. But yes, I I understand your I think. More people stand with you on Rondo, and if you pull people behind the scenes around the NBA, there are a lot of people who've actually been there who will roll their eyes at the idea of playoff Rondo or leadership, Rondo or whatever he he's been kinda nasty to people over the years. So I get where you're coming from. I mean, I'm just saying the myth version of it is not there's people who question that who were there. Right. Yeah. That's my only point. And I just never found that fun. Like, I appreciate a true point guard a pass first point guard, but not the way that he did it and the lack of shooting for years and years, they're really bugged me too. Because again, he's getting all this credit for having these big assist numbers. But when in reality he's harming his team's offense because he's just a complete non shooter, and the numbers are bearing it out. But people don't want to admit it. So the whole Rondo experienced me, you could wipe that one from the plan. I would have been fun. Oh, man. See I disagree entirely. I respect your take. And I just can't I I mean, Rondo was so much fun and so- crafty getting his offense around the rim. I mean, like the fact that he didn't have a jumper and was still able to be really effective in big moments in the playoffs. And I've talked about peak Rondo because there have been some really dark Rondo seasons as well. And so I'm really only talking about like two thousand nine to two thousand twelve or thirteen in Boston where he kind of blossomed into arguably the best player on that Celtics team as everybody got older, and it didn't really make sense because you talk about his skill set. Like he was a good passer. But he was never that great a passer. He couldn't shoot he was long, but he wasn't like a freak athlete necessarily. But he would just find ways to be really. Active on both ends. He was tough as nails and go. He would go toe to toe with guys like LeBron Dwayne Wade where like he should have been completely outclassed, but he kind of found a way to get it done. And so I loved watching him do that. But I part of what I loved is how much everybody hated him. And then the behind the scene stories where you would hear shit like he's throwing stuff into TV's flipping out and Celtics meetings at best thing. And then you have to listen to all this stuff. All he's just like connect for genius. You know, what just be average connect for and don't quit on the Mavericks in the playoffs and don't punch Chris Paul. How about that? Well, fair enough. I think I've team Rondo in the battle between him in Carlisle always have been that's one of my founding principles. All right. Let's finish out your list. Who else you got Darren Williams? How about him? Ooh. Pretty good dominee totally forgot he existed. Yes..

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03:42 min | 2 years ago

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"Around behind closed doors. Tim Duncan in Yana certainly were deep down in your memory, banks. You'll remember Lee Jenkins wrote a great piece about the joker tendencies of. Nikolay yoke. So I'm sure you read it you committed to memory back there somewhere. Go read it and you'll you'll get a nice slicer his personality. I've got I've got another guy though here, and I think he has much much more deserving. Dwight howard. I mean, come on like, we can at least agree on right? I mean, we can agree. I don't know though. First of all again, I think it's kind of cheap to put the the big guys on here. I also don't know if he's dominant enough to qualify for for that list. He you're forgetting forgetting his peak. I mean, he was really really dominant MVP college nations easily the best center at that little time. His it didn't last as long as everybody expected. But for me, the problem was the personality stuff. There wasn't a separation between the on court and the off court so like goofy stuff that drove everybody crazy and wound up alienating with his teammates and the immaturity. And all of that it just bled over into his game too. And I give STAN Gundy a lot of credit for that. What was it like the two thousand nine magic team? That was just incredible the way that they were built everything was humming perfectly. You thought it could go on forever. I mean in some ways it was almost like the predecessor of the current bucks. Just like, we don't know. How anyone's gonna stop these guys consistently for the next five years? They've just kind of figured out basketball. And Yup, it blew up so quickly. And you know, you gotta look to the best player in say. Well, you know, what happened there and to me that was white? He should've just been twenty ten every year for however, many years going forward. He just kinda couldn't stay happy. He couldn't keep it together. He couldn't build a locker room culture. And you know, he couldn't stay healthy too. And that was a big problem as well. And his hard to watch him struggle through games when he wasn't healthy, and that's no fault to him. But that was another impact. So when we're looking at guys I mean to me clear cut future hall of Famer multi all-star multi-mm` all NBA first team guy three defensive player of the year. I mean, if you just wiped his crew off the map, I'd be fine. I think the best moment was the superman dunk, right? That's the one thing that we would cling to and and otherwise we could just say the basketball God's can just keep the rest of it. Right. Well at it's funny because I was thinking about his dunk contests for for. Silence in that superman dunk. Ed. I thought that was the lamest thing in the world when it happened and you could go back to his peak the peak of his career was that finals run. And Dwight was one of the least cool things about that. Magic team. I mean, the the best parts of that run were hito catching fire Rashard Lewis playing on a Nelson. Yeah. The guy sin. That's the guy who you wanted to go to I was Jamir. I mean, he's right in your wheelhouse of like short stubby point guards or Jack and three pointers. I mean, if you went to see you'd probably have his jersey on right now a hundred percent a hundred percent and two white. It's not that. He wasn't great. That's not what I mean. I just feel like Dwight has taken so many shots over the years that it almost feels like punching down at this point because his career has obviously been complicated. And it just like, nobody joint take it pointing? But like we can't have this list without white on it. I mean, it was. Like a very fair and obvious emission by our buddy Iago are right another who else. Do you have another controversial pick here regime? Rondo I've never been able to stand. His game. Drives me crazy. I understand. He was really really good. He had a couple of playoff series that were absolutely spectacular that I covered in person unique.

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03:54 min | 2 years ago

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"Though. Do you have any any nominations for your list or this list? Whatever his list was really interesting. I mean clearly centers are going to take a beating in this category. Kinda no matter what like if you're applauding back to the basket. I so guy I think that a lot of fans have a hard time relating to those players. And it's funny because I like my dad when he was in high school, he was a Senator, and he would always defend guys like Kareem to the death. And like he would just scream at me. You have to feed the big guy every time you're in a transition opportunity like you should take care of them. Because those guys have like the worst lives, right? And that's great grandpa, Gulliver, your grandpa Gulliver. Your head is great grandpa golf that. He's trying to feed the post run some Mike and drills makes perfect sense. Yeah. He's just like look if the big is getting up and down in exerting the energy. On a fastbreak. He's trailing. He got her ordinate. He better get the ball. Right. So that that stuck out to me from his list and also the idea of Hardin and Carmelo with the isolation tendencies that they've been in. I think some people just really negatively to that. But if this question is for the primes as much as I don't like Carmelo and I've really kind of bashed on him over the years. I'm not sure he deserves to be on this list for his prime because you know, the microwave scoring ability, you know, just being able to put up like twenty in a burst. I don't know if I would say he should be on this category with guys like Moses Malone who's just kinda catching his own offense rebounds. It I'm gonna get in trouble from the old heads and say he was more than that. But you know, that stereotype of his game where he's just like missing ups and stacking up twenty tens totally the Moses Malone thing like I hear his name. And I understand that he was great and probably in greater than I realized, but I can't help. But think of the word. Lumbering when someone mentions Moses Malone just because of the way, he's just kind of always leaning around the basket. And if you're gonna get compared to Akeem like that's just tough, you know, it's like, okay, who who are people are going to gravitate to naturally, you know, that's just a losing battle. Right. So I'm curious. I mean, honestly, we could even continue on by eliminating big men entirely because it's almost unfair. No better not do that Andrew because that's like three quarters of my list. Okay. Well, then hit me with your list. I'm gonna give you my number one right off the top. Okay. I'm I'm going for a guy who's very high on the NBA's all time scoring list. I'm going for a guy who is revered in certain segments of the country. I'm going for Carl Malone number one overall. They you. Well, all right. We see eye to eye. So I think he qualifies here because of the dominant aspect right like year after year after year, the consistent excellence putting up all the points getting the numbers, he definitely qualifies there. But in terms of a guy who I would wanna watch like I felt like even his MVP over Mike is probably what bugs me the most about him. Because I always felt like Stockton was a better and more important all around player than Malone by a lot. And because Malone's the one who's doing the scoring. He's the one who gets the attention and any negativity about Malone was always like, you know, about choking in the clutch or like some of the other stuff not. Really like dissecting the finer points of like how interesting his gay might be or anything else to me. I just didn't wanna watch them. And I just relished every time my punked him, right? Like when Mike comes around the bag swipes the ball from him in the post and goes up his jumper, a mess. Just beautiful. It's just like philosophically. Great. And also, just like basketball great. To me like, I'm not trying to demonize them make him a horrible person or anything like that. It's just guys who I did not enjoy watching play basketball Carl Malone's at the top of the list and it's weird because I loved Stockton. Yeah. No Malone's tough..

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04:13 min | 2 years ago

"12 times" Discussed on Open Floor

"I can tell you why Andrew it's the surest sign that the playoffs are about to be right around the corner. And basically this time next week. Aren't we going to be digging into the playoff matchups discussing who's gonna be going against two and basketball's really going to count? So while we see all these angry people even the emails who are up in arms because we dare to talk about Zion. Williamson for fifteen minutes this basketball, produce going to change the league. My god. What are we doing wasting our time talking about him? It's all going to be coming to ahead here next week. And I can't wait. I'm so excited. Now, it's pretty crazy. Actually, I had that a pivoting we're recording this on Thursday afternoon. And I had that a pity this afternoon where it was like, oh my God. Next weekend, the playoffs start, and this all gets very very real after this month long Malays, I in then we can lane about the other night, we can complain about the quadruple headers, and how are is are glasses over and we can't stay up. We'll have something else plate about. But it'll be great. But you were saying about Durant. Well, I was watching Durant. And it's like you forget how good he is. And he gets rolling. And you're just like oh my God. Maybe you are the best player in the league. And then he knows baby jetted, and it's a reminder that okay? He's also going through some weird stuff this year and his just Katie and a weird place. I don't know. I've never heard the phrase liberty brindell is that what you said that's an old Bill, Sean Lee phrase from the Portland trailblazers days used to say liberty brindell up the middle. That was one of his he came up with the term rip city for Portland as well. He had bingo bango Bongo baby. Look, we could go on and on and on with Sean Lee city caught on a little bit more than liberty brindell. But I know learn something new every day. I appreciate it. I with you though. I mean, it's been it's been pretty hateful out there on the NBA Twitter streets. I think we're all ready for real drama and real things to argue about because like the. Clippers rockets game one of the clippers announcers came out and said he doesn't enjoy watching. James harden? Great exactly reasonable. But that's exactly what I'm talking about. It only comes out in early April. Right. Like people have been fed up with James Arthur for four years, but people only lay it on the table when there's a week to go in the it's like, oh, my God, we need to run this guy out of media. It's like, you know, what it's fine. He's a he's a clippers broadcast or he doesn't have to love James harden. But anyways. Yeah. Well, I'm with you. And today, we're kind of got a bounce all over the place here. Here's what I'm thinking Andrew 'cause we're in this mood of April angst. Right. So it's not like we should be piling on. But we did get a really really funny question from Iago about some of the all time great players may be who like drives you nuts watching them play. And I just think in this spirit of April anx may we can riff on that question. What you say? Absolutely. And I swear to God, I did not intend to have the. The clippers fiasco be a perfect segue into this question, but we've had it on the rundown for couple of podcast now and Iago says the talk of a back to back MVP for James harden, made me think of an interesting question. Please name your five most dominant players that were the least enjoyable slash exciting to watch in their relative frame, maybe limited to players that played in your lifetime that could be more appropriate. Here goes, my quick top-five this Iago's top-five. He's clearly a little bit older than either your eye. He's his fifth choice is Kareem Abdul Jabbar. His fourth choice is Ralph Sampson is third choice is Moses Malone. His second choice is Carmelo Anthony and number one least enjoyable all-time. Great for Iago is good old. James harden? So what you're saying is Iago's doing the? Games now for clippers TV like he went from open floor Email God to official clippers broadcasts. That's what happened. Yeah. He's gone in for that spot. Man. I can't blame them. What do you think?.

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