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St. Edwards University Senior Chase Bartlett
"Everyone John Worth. I'm here this week. Sports illustrated tennis podcast. Hope you're doing well or some approximation. Thereof our guest week is chase arlit. Who is chased? Bartlett Jason Bartlett is a senior at Saint Edwards College in Texas. He reached out to me via twitter and wanted to tell me about his story. Which is essentially that in the wake of covid his school's Athletic Department abruptly has killed its tennis program and they go tell you the details. But they're not pretty and I think this is something that unfortunately gonna come up more often in the next few months that tennis is a non Revenue Sport and with no final four. No March madness and with football. This fall right now in some doubt. These are tough times. College athletic departments. We've talked a lot about tennis on the tours being suspended but this trickles down to the college game as well so today we talked with a college tennis player about some of the woes facing his program and Again I think this unfortunately is going to be an issue. That's GONNA be come sort of being creasing -ly resonant this fall so without further ado chase. Are you a senior where he was senior? Wants you to sort of Orient us where you are and what you've been through and then we can go from there the ask so. I I just graduated last week From San Cruz University in it's a division two school We finish this year ranked six in the country with six all American awards and make like replant nine overall team. Gpa So it's probably the best team ever had in school history For lottery reasons. And unfortunately the school's administration just cut cut six of our teams Men and women's tennis included earlier this month About three and a half weeks ago actually and since then we've been trying to do all these reinstatement plans and we've been having caused zoom calls with with the administration trying to figure out. How can we get these programs back? And how can we find a place for these is that it's athletes? I'm going to cut you off periodically just to The flesh is out on. This is obviously corona driven or. This is separate. There's been some a lot of people are thinking that this is sort of just a cover up from corona but the school is very adamantly saying this is directly related to the crown virus. You know they. They were expanding programs. You know two months before. They cut our programs to added East sports program in a track and field program and looked like there was plans to build a Lacrosse program as well. So it. It's sort of confusing. It's just to be just to be clear your tell me about your school yes a my school is in Austin Texas Like I said it's a division to university. It's got I think before. This had sixteen programs if you're not including tracking sports with which suggest added so now they're down to almost bare minimum to compete in division two. I think and in their conference requirements. So it's a it's a pretty good school it's right across the street from Ut's downtown Austin's a nice place lime scooters. I think yeah absolutely your your senior year and things. Things are last semester of college and then all of a sudden things go sideways in a hurry before we get to the finances. I mean just an emotional level. What's been like for you at? I couldn't imagine anything worse. It was almost like losing her relatives. And that's sounds ridiculous to say but it was. You know these are dreams that we've been working on. You know my teammates innocence before fourth grade when we had our tenth birthday party. That was around the time of college. Athletes really start playing in Brooklyn. Our whole lives in the end. We had shot actually this year winning a national championship. And that's what made it. I think so disappointing for us especially when I got here for years ago when I was a freshman unranked we lost to some pretty bad teams a now for the first time in school history. We've got team that can win a national championship. And and then grownup virus comes in all of a sudden you know. We didn't even know what was going to be our last practice. Our last match in three weeks later they they cut our program so it's pretty devastating for a lot of us. You're a senior. You said you graduated congrats. You still have a year of eligibility I assume if you want it. Yes so all the spring sports got one extra year of eligibility. Which means that you know. I could transfer on plan of the year which I'm planning on doing WanNa get an NBA and maybe play for a division one school A lot of teams aren't so fortunate though even though you know they can transfer Some of the freshman for example we had two freshman that were all Americans. I've known for a long time. Actually and one of them is quitting tennis because he he can't think of going anywhere else in the other one is going somewhere with no scholarship because much the teams have been all booked up because the timing of all that the transfer portal and in all sports right now is Is Is Meek writer. It's just just clogged in everything from the basketball the wrestling you hear this again and again. I mean I think in college tennis's I we're going to hear more stories about this a little bit different division one schools where the TV revenue from the NCAA tournament in the revenue for football. If that doesn't come in that's going to affect the whole athletic department. It sounds like that's a little bit different than the situation at Saint Edwards. Not like. You had a huge football team. That was spitting out millions of dollars in revenue for the heart letting department absolutely. We don't even have team And Are you know the sports that got cut? I mentioned the Sierra. But they're actually the revenue sports You know of the six that were cut. Men's soccer was bringing in around one hundred fifty thousand dollars in revenue per year Cheer was a was a great reverence for that was cut in. They were bringing in around the Santa Soccer and men's tennis was costing a measly fifty two dollars. How can you dollars year expenses? Yes semi the bill. Yeah exactly how? How did you generate revenue? And what were the expenses so about three weeks ago we received a leaked document From a consulting report that was done in two thousand eighteen of Athletic Department in the way they did it. They did what's called the contribution margin analysis so basically you factor in all of the expenses. Right your background scholarships you factor in coaches budget factor-in overall budget And then you factor in you know okay. So I have four scholarships right and I have a twelve man team and all of a sudden. You know we're actually. You might be bringing in money because of the people who are on scholarship. So it's not like the ball where there's a ton of scholarships or something like that. You know our program wasn't fully funded so
Craig Tiley - Australian Open Tournament Director and Tennis Australia CEO
"Welcomed episode forty eight of the functional tennis podcast. This week we have the great pleasure of speaking to Craig tightly. Ceo of tennis. Australia and director of the Aussie Open. Craig tells us all about his coaching success in college tennis in the states and then move and Australia to work for tennis Australia and the different jobs. He's done there. We also talk about the challenges of the current Cova situation on looking at Grand Slams and the Aussie Open in twenty twenty one. He tells us the first time you met Roger Federer and we've to gray questions sent into a spire instagram fons. It's a great episode. Hope you enjoyed before we get started. Make sure to go over to our new. Instagram account called functional tennis podcast. And give us a follow shed into a podcast sponsors head. I've been using head rackets and says a kid I I had Agassi's ownby racket. Which absolutely loved. I've been using heads on and off really ever. Since but mainly used the radical tried to use the prestige. But I find a wasn't really couldn't always struggle on the double handed pack and with it the radical for me less a bit more room for errands bit more stable for me. So thank you guys. Okay let's talk the Craig. Hi Craig how are you good? Thanks for talking to you from the other side of the world. I. It's amazing top. You're on board. It's really big privilege. Heavy speaking here on. Yes well thank you very much couch to find that Albert. How you became the talk. Mind an tennis Australia and wound most of man in tennis anytime you speak to tennis player. They rave about what you've still not the OSCE open so can't wait to hear Beth dot before we get started. Let's talk a little bit about your early tennis career. I know you're very successful coach in the states head. Did you get involved agenda in the states or let me start out by saying it's always difficult to talk about these things in the context of the of the current climate that we ran and And having to isolate and Dual of things that we need to do to protect health system so so I apologize to beat but late to the call because as you would not which is handled. I in front of the screen on video conferences. But it's all good but Allsteel question out against the US. I was a young kid loved the game and I started later when he starred thirteen four. She was considered extremely nights. And I. I had aspirations to be a a great to be a tennis player and I loved it. I love training playing and was never realized that call and was fortunate. Enough to grow rails. That early enough This trying to make it through the twenties thirties. So one-sided centerstage Katie Myself and finished from military service on the obligations. I had to do in South Africa. Right got on the plane and went to Europe the tennis there and then an answer. GonNa go to the US and get an education. And I went with plans to stay four years and ended up staying for Dean so I think that's kind of be my modus operandi. Chris time they happened will strata was Kinda come for a few years. I being sixteen says I'm getting constant and helping and really enjoying you're making a statement wherever you go on your coach so you end up your coach successful coach at Illinois Your Coach Year Multiple Times. How did you move into coach? Well I think You when you have love the game. I'm made people in this report cost wooden and These many different career opportunities. You haven't you can be administering coaching and playing and officiating at it is. And it's such a global sports go to common language as the lines of the ten school. The highest the net that determine that commonality around the world his great battle. I did match my my love of the game with my desire to help people and those two things came. Together and I agree deal of personal fulfillment and professional satisfaction out of helping other than using vehicle for that. And when you love what you do You willing to constantly always improve and in the lookout for ways to get better and learn from others and and And I look back in hindsight down I think on on reflection and I think that because two things the desire to help people and the love of the game I was able to learn a lot and And we spoke to their slam today and I think that is one of the one of the most of being able to be lucky. Enough have had some success so the coaching side. I loved and I always did enjoyed like challenging the status quo and I enjoyed being told that things wouldn't happen. And when you star they wanted to physicist coaches ahead who was the famous Stuart Doyle from From the University of Arkansas was great to have stood for the team. We started the success and a period of thirteen years. We took a college program from no age of the best in the country for quite a few years and ended up having some many players that went on really well. Kevin Anderson from South Africa was one of the top five in the world recently. And so we've had. It's it's been divorced. Plays that success in fun to watch. The Program says the success that it did but it was. Secret is wakeup rewarding. Do the best you can do. People will treat them how you wanted to be treated because you always going to be decided runaway do on the way down and just look as hard as you can see because look for improved. Button could come. It's a long journey on a short June. I completely agree with you. The daily grind getting open put into hard work. But just getting back to you mentioned dodd. Some listeners here. We solicit snarled and they all know stuey dial of his great tennis abilities. What was he liked back in the day? All should say knows to you'll identify sanity mall. One thing that he did teach the ethics I'll never forget it. It's still resonates with me as what it takes to win a points and what it takes to be good and amount of effort and pain in the work. You've got to go through to do that and His attitude is competitive attitude on On improvement rubbed off. Funny Everyone Cussin' that's why everyone loved because by him and always say you is one of the few met. That's would be willing to go through the same pain himself To prove the others what it is versus telling you what to do.
Sabatinis stylish dominance; Nadal and Federers 2006 classic
"Amy Thank you so much for your support and to everybody that bacteria kickstarter at the end of last year which enabled us to carry on all year long and produced the tennis podcast four. You hope you're enjoying it. We certainly are catherine say. Hello Catherine David. Hello Matt. You're right. Hello yes fine. Thank you good. We have had the most wonderful weekend watching old tennis matches from Rome which we are going to really have with you today from nine hundred ninety two. The story of Gabriella Sabatini is extraordinary. Run in Rome for titles in five years and also talk about how more generally she's one of those players that tends to get forgotten. I'm afraid to say including bias. I can't think of many times that we've mentioned the name Gabriella Sabatini over the last eight years of the tennis podcast. And we're going to put that right today. She also turned fifty as well over the weekend. So feels like a good time to do that. And we're going to go back to the two thousand six men's final between Roger Federer and Rafael. The Dow a dare say many more of you will remember that one and maybe some of you watched it with us over the weekend so lots to talk about before we do that. Let's just mention the news of the week. Which is that more? Tennis TOURNAMENTS HAVE BEEN CANCELLED UP until July thirty first on the ATP circuit and the events. The wheelchair events have been announced on the men's side tournaments like a start Baastad Kitzbuehl in Newport or cancel because of the corona virus. And we await to find out what will happen with the American swing in August. But I mean it doesn't sound great so we'll have to wait and see several WTI events until mid-july cancelled as well but no great surprise. I'm afraid Catherine I should say as well following on from songs that could be used for the corona era a particular mention for EJ Stanton on instagram. Who suggests don't stand so close to me from the police. Yep Yep acceptable. Yep that's yeah. I've heard that mentioned a lot of the lowest we were going for more. I don't want to diminish EJ's contribution that we were going. Ooh For more specifically songs that reference the absence of crowd right so rather than sort of general corona virus social distancing song bags which which I feel are. Is anyone else a bit over sort of Korean social distancing song just over the whole thing generally? It's a very very difficult time for cynical people with a dry sense of humor because there's a loss of well intentioned sort of sickly happiness in sort of we're all in this together in we'll come through this and have you considered crafting. You should be crofting. Oh we're GONNA come out of. This is best move well rounded people and you know people that then you bunny the. I'm so over all of that. This folks is Katharine Whitaker. Who has just shown irs her two thousand piece Jigsaw which makes two in a row that she's not together now and she's also about her fiftieth podcast to the air with two weeks worth of dailies to come during Roland Garros Peppy Catherine. Yeah but I'm not. I'm not smugly telling people if you considered podcasting it's it'll make you a better human being during these challenging times. Stephanie my better I have. You always Dunk Jigsaw. No I mean I have on occasion in over the years done the odds Dixon L- but nights definitely I. I'm not doing this to to self improve. I'm enough to pass the time. I'm just impressed. Because not cool or anything they might even be able to hear me through the wolves but my parents started kick those and they're really not very good at them. How can you be? How can you be bad at jiggles? Unless you've got bad eyesight you've done you've done about five of them in the space have been out of the night soaking souls. We're talking two thousand pieces. My parents struggling with five five hundred faces. Maybe they need help just handed over to my kids. If I was doing a jigsaw. There's no why upbeat during it because I just lose know these inch. It's IT'S GONNA sound like one of these awful peppy. People is the IT. It's it's very mindful. It gets me off my phone hawks. Group it it's very it's you can still sort of be watching the telly obviously not physique. And have something on the tally in the background. And be paying attention to it but it gets you off your phone sort of it. Concentrates the mind. Oh God I hate myself move on. Can Multitask is what you're saying? Awesome specifically cannot multitask. So I would say it's a nonstarter. Meanwhile folks we have been putting photos on social media channels of ourselves in one thousand nine hundred ninety two where possible because Matt didn't exist nine hundred ninety two and two thousand and six respectively Matt has created quashed a picture of a tennis magazine on which he as a child prodigy is on the front cover wielding his racket. Like Richard Gasquet aged nine. Except there's no strings in the racquet That's the away so walk away. A few people were taken in by it. It's my absolute probably favorite thing. That's ever happened to me. That people actually think I was on the cover of Tennis magazine. Age Ten it was just at Wimbledon in the. Lta Tent way you could go up and have your have your photo taken in front of a green screen. And they were then imprinted onto ace tennis magazine. And yes they put up there alongside the words the not a the future Wimbledon champion going to all future Wimbledon. Men's having experienced his game. I can tell you what could have happened to a young Merrin Chile church in appearance. Yeah not sure what to say about that. Well he he opened so I'd go with that. Yeah no great. I'm in favor of all. Comparisons to professionals plays a singular. Us Open title is not all Wimbledon. Titles there is it still in underachievement relative. I don't think we're actually doing any matches from two thousand seven for tennis relived. Who knows how long ten is live? We'll be going on. We may have to come to two thousand and seven at some point but I actually went back the following year and appeared on the front cover again. Let's just put it up as a sort of extra what the people working uniform and that one.
"Hello everybody happy while wherever you are on this glorious year revision we can came under your Eurovision Song contest fan you. I think you're even begin to it this year. Weren't you in in Rotterdam so? Have you been coping without the prospect of any sort of live dies than well getting Easter? Now Joel tennis being canceled Irvine being cancelled. Yeah I had tickets for the first time and it's law it was council but hopefully out next year and we had celebration on on the TV last night and had some Swedish food and some cocktails to kind of raise a bit of a glass to what what never happened. But but yeah I think I think you were watching us. Well Joe. You're right yes I was. I catch Lubbock came. I'm going to hold my hand up here. Johnny Logan he comes on the TV and have no idea who he is by turns out. He's he's pretty much the go of of the on contests Mariah a bit. Like the Federa of of your vision life. If you don't tennis you you at least know the name federal. Maybe Johnny Logan could could be a bit like that but yeah. I was quite surprised. You shouldn't you've never heard of him. He's one well three times twice as a singer songwriter. Say He is the kind of the winningest person in in your vision. I guess you could say but yeah maybe actually we can do a European podcast as well. But let's let's go to tennis because we're going to be looking at the Italian. Upn and top eight movements. The happened in rave the last few decades. And perhaps I should lead on this one job because I'm going start with a moment featuring the man himself rapper. One of surprise well yes and listeners. And said he'd rougher bear with us because we all see you're not the end of the alternative Casey's season I mean let's be honest because light Madrid. Rome is Dallas. Hi I think he's one like what nine titles zero something ludicrously say is as as hardly a surprise to kind of see him featured this list say yes came. More is was the first moment. We're WE'RE GONNA be reliving. Well I thought we have liquor two thousand five. Which was you know I play horses and really where he takes. The kind of took it by storm. He won the first time. Yeah his first of nine titles. I think back in five and so he came up against Korea. Who at the time I guess was probably the most to stop ish claycourter of over air or at least one of them very face competitor for sure but the final was another five-set Masters Final five-set thriller? It was over five hours long. Which if you think about now if they were doing that consistently Austin Final Monte Carlo Madrid. That would just be insane. I mean I actually am believe that they used to do this to be called with the but yeah it was. It was a real ding. Dong to one of the better word. Joe Six four three six six three full six and then rougher one at seven six on a law set tiebreak but think about this much. Rougher was a double breakdown and fifth say. Who's three lockdown Sakaria? Really could've gone on us up momentum going away and one but I think really is kind of weakest point throughout his whole career was was his mental strength and he kind of collapsed that combined with with. Rafa you know. Obviously he's attitude his diehard shoot. Never giving up. He was on like a sixteen match winning streak at this point and say obviously he. He had a lot of belief in his game. And but I think Korea would be very devastated after this loss at I think. Actually in his post-match she interceded say this was one of the hardest defeats of his career. I think it was interesting to is. I think Korea probably getting into this matching gains clay season. Yeah he's probably thinking. I'm beatable on clay call. There is no one else out there better than me and who comes along on the Dow eighteen year old teenage eh relatively unheard of and I think this match proved that even when Korea was playing his absolutely best tennis possible. That was someone else out there better than him and I think he was kind of disheartened by that and I think this much great show us. You said mentally he you know he wasn't as strong as some of his other competitors or I think when you're three love up Double in the fifth set us really should be closing that match out and he wasn't able to do that. I think that's one of the things we might associate with a player who you know as brilliant as he is in Korea kind of on the mental side of things. I don't think you could put him up there with the greats and I kind of look at this match. I look at the two thousand four French Open final as well where he Gaston Gaudio. In the final game was five sets but again crucially he was two sets up. He was six love. Six three up was unable to close out the the match. And you know he's probably one of these as you put in the category of greatest players never have one. Ud wonder if if he hit if he had won if he had won this final in in Rome beaten Dow that would have given him the confidence indicate and reinforce that belief that he was and he was at the time the best the best clay court player in the world. I think obviously that loss against scout and then going into this match against Rafeh just his. His mental side of things just wasn't subscription. A Rafeh had beaten him in the Monte Carlo. Final just a couple of weeks before this so again he knew he was up against and he kind of let it. Let it slip away to be honest with you and Yeah so I just thought you know. Obviously this was this was a great match and it was symbolic because again you have this is like the birth of of Raffarin. His kind of play. Call dominance in this. Totally kind of pulsing off of his. You know the best steak or two at the time we had people like Carlos Moya one Ferrara Cowdrey. Kara in a sort of all very good establish trae which just as soon as Raff kind of started working his magic. He'd I guess it kind of became almost impossible. Perhaps to argue against for being the best. Geico
USTA Chief Medical Officer Dr. Brian Hainline
"Yesterday Dr. Brian. Hey Line he is the chief medical officer for the Ncaa College Sports for our international audience. He's also the chief medical officer for the US Open and the USDA and has been since the early nineties. He is also a former college tennis player. So today's discussion is a lot about what it will take for sports to come back what we make of this closed-door scenario and then we talk specifically tennis. What are the unique challenges tennis bases and whether the twenty twenty? Us Open can happen. If so under what circumstances so Thought after a lot of speculation from lay people who was time we consulted someone who had real expertise so here does a great job is Dr Brian Halen. I I've seen you quoted a number of times and I feel like everyone has become an instant expert on sports science and And Virology these days. But I figured we've talked to a real expert and let's let's just start. Generally I mean what? What are you seeing out there? And what's going to be the biggest challenge for sports to restart I think the Two biggest challenges are really having surveillance. That's firmly in place and and really really good testing. So you can imagine and you know resocialised and you can't imagine re socializing in sport if you don't have both of those you know once we start opening up where no longer saying. We're just trying to flatten the curb or or were trying to really make certain. Our healthcare systems are not overwhelmed him so New York City which is a great example of that. The healthcare system were ninety percent of the hospital were devoted to taking care of patients who had colds and were in respiratory failure. We're now opening up. Doing procedures elective procedures. Insult going forward. If this is GonNa work you have to be able to test large segments of society and especially in sport and you have to do contact tracing and do what's right when there's a positive so it really does fundamentally rest on those two principles and you're just to be clear. You're talking about testing testing. And not just the temperature checks that's correct. And and it's two types of testing the indoor being you know even good advances and even in the last week so The rapid diagnostic testing shifting to what we may call point of care testing where you can even have on your your own kit in. And that's two of. That's going to be evolving in two ways. One is on looking for the virus particles so the PC artas to to see if you really are wait on infectious and even the serology testing if there wolves out properly and we really get good out. There's two ways to look at serology. One is to see if you have immunity but also when you first are infected with a virus your immune system kicks in right away. What's it's called? Gm and that may even evolve as as a screening tool for for seeing someone has accused effect infection so I think bolts are going to really advance in the next month and then were GonNa be strategies for how to work with teams without and you think testing is available and sufficient. I mean I don't know if you saw the UFC card that they held Saturday night and Florida. They went through. I think was twelve hundred tests for one. Sporting event and people eyebrows raised over that you think we have enough test to pull the saw. I think we're going to get there so so we had a a meeting. We meaning the chief medical officers of sport on so I was representing amateurs or Z. A. And then you had the chief medical officers of the NFL NBA Major League Baseball. H Own. We're all meeting with Dr Birch's office in the White House and we emphasize we said. We can't do this if we don't have adequate tests so you know the White House response is the usual response. Were were increasing them substantially but. I think what's happening in ups obscene. This happened as a least at university levels. They're either working with a hospital or university lab so they can take care of their whole campus but the private companies have have really been rubbing up as well and you know that's challenging and on on the one hand you WanNa make certain Dutch. You aren't testing for one segment of society while the rest of the state is still prioritizing test and they only have enough so but I I think the way the private companies and and and even with you know I just saw another. Fda approval reverse serology. Tusk come in our yesterday. So it is starting to substantially increase where. I think we're going to be moving into a different APP testing on we. We keep talking about the possibility of sports returning but I wonder how granular you get to what extent UC distinctions between sports and the benchmark for football is GONNA be much different than the benchmark for golf no absolutely so So so you know aside from the event Florida this past weekend so the PGA tour will be hosting event and in Texas the first week of June and on and they happen. You know a really cool without getting into too much detail but you know you. Essentially we have to create what's called an inner bubble and then you have outer bubbles out in the inner bubble was who would be really going to be around the athletes. So it's the athletes the core of athletics. Sam personnel the coaches. And you have to make sure that they're sort of walled off and really well-protected. I mean in these first early events like that you know when we look at the NCAA and the false or so ranges from cross country to And Soccer and field hockey and then of course. There's there is football insults. It's a little easier to imagine pulling off cross country than than it is onto to pull off off on but even across country meet the logistics of it are not straightforward and on. You know when you're starting off across country event. You're pretty close to a lot of people at the end. You're pretty close when you're trying to pay someone you know it's a The elbows are flying. And so you have to make sure that done might too and so we are actually getting a very granular levels. Were at the NCAA. We we have these committees that are our staff and members of committees working in conjunction with other. And we're developing basically all of the what if scenarios that we can think of and the other thing is we're building off of the core principles of resocialization document that we put together and were beginning very granular in terms of general guidance. For what needs to happen in a lock of what needs to happen in in the gym. What needs to happen. You know for showers and and you know the whole old idea of just kinda show up in the training room was actually sort of a choice for athletes to hang out. I mean it's going to be by appointment so it's really going to be staggered and I think it'll be easy in the first couple of phases but the tricky part is going to be when you start having contact
French Open could be held without fans
"President of the French tennis federation says the French Open could be held without fans and pushed back again organizer's haven't ruled out any options when it comes to the grand slam event it's scheduled to begin one week after the U. S. open is scheduled to finish in New York that's on September twentieth and no word yet whether the U. S. open will still be
Calling Tennis Remotely, with Ravi Ubha
"Welcome to new challenges remaining. I'm Ben Rothenberg as millions of folks around the world enter their third month of adjusting to working remotely I thought this might be a good time to share the experiences of what it's like to work remotely in tennis when tennis is a sport that sts professionally which doesn't really currently and much of the world feed commentary on the tennis matches you watch at home is delivered from a world away from the courts where the matches are taking place and one of the Veterans of this craft is. Ravi who also works on site at tournaments as a freelance reporter. So foot both the close the distant kind of work in Tennessee. So Ravi will describe here what. It's like working in broadcasting rotely at lifestyle of being distant from the courts and the challenges of creating atmosphere. A place that you're nowhere near so hopefully you will find this interesting. Maybe a little bit resident in these times of distance working that we're all living in and general distance. This interview was recorded near the end of this year's Australian. Open as you'll be able to tell but hopefully it has some some meaning residents or something in our lives. Today here is Ravi. I'm thrilled to be joined on this episode by my friend Robbie who is aware of many different hats in the tennis world. He is this week at the Australian Open. As we record this on my I'll and the pressroom and I'll made of mine as we walked back and forth press conferences and whatever else and share reactions to whatever missed overheads and such happened at once. He's one of those voices in unison gasping and signing and also a voice that I hear actually on the TV and watching at home as a frequent world feed commentator tennis Ravi. Thank you for being here. Ben My pleasure. Thank you for people who maybe more or less with you. Just how did you get into tennis? I in your life. How did you for make the jump into doing it as a career? In my life I grew up in Canada so It surprises me that I actually got into tennis. Because as you know. It's a big hockey country at my earliest memories at home when I was a little kid. Four or five watching the US Open in the background was on TV. Washington handle who? I think. He's my idol. When it comes to sportsman was younger so it started from that Played my whole life. Love playing very regularly and then got into it You know my profession and when I moved to London I was in the early two thousands. I is really a writer and thereafter going into the booth and doing You know share a picture of of commentating and TV work also. So how'd so the writing we've got a lot of show or other writing side of its. I'm more curious about how you make that. Jump how you go from being on the page. What was your first time being behind a microphone? I remember it well. It was a two thousand nine. I was asked to do a Davis Cup tie between Russia and Russia and Romania And so I did that s skew. Kinda thing. Yeah it was actually victor. S Q in McCall usually my first match. Oh I remember well and I think it was because they were looking for people who who just new tennis and covered tennis and as somebody who grew up broadcasting also. I was reported in Montreal where I grew up doing TV. I think they knew that. And they just stick. Okay let's Let's bring him in on something I wanted to do. So it really started from my point. According I've done a lot of tennis radio. Color Commentary. Saddam that different from doing TV. But I'm curious what as you got more into? Tv having been a writer having been a reporter. What skills are translated into what once? Don't translate what he to learn on that new in this new role well it For example the attention to detail that you have in imprinted writing. I think that's very helpful when it comes to being in the booth you know when digging up statistics knowing where to look and knowing how to get them to look for the inside stuff rather than just the basic statistics. I saw you antennas abstract on your computer just nine. Yeah for sure a great website. That's that's something that I bring with me. On the print side things that are different You know you know went to jump jump in and out to in went to Q. Out I'd also just broadcasting is a different is a different also voice. Really when you're as to when you're talking somebody like as we're chatting but now it's it's a different voice you put on. You also have to learn. Went to kind of hit your spots when it comes to nailing down for example phrases after a particular matches. Done you WanNa with a big extra It's not exactly the lead on when it's so important for peace pace but it's kind of the big finish in broadcasting so that there are little things like that they're different is that. I think you become more accustomed to as you do more shoe and actually imprint. They really don't emphasize most editors or papers or publications don emphasize ending so much. Onto a real sign off they most articles fade out or some editors sort of cut from the bottom which is frustrating when that happens because the idea try to put endings on Surrey generally. Bs that when did. When did it become a more full-time thing for you? And how did sort of adding work in that particular line? Is it same as other freelance work or is it different? Yeah no it's pretty much since the I would say two thousand thirteen fourteen and I I would say it's become more of doing that Rather than writing than before it was kind of opposite. He's been more of the writing than the broadcast. I always say since two thousand and thirteen and fourteen. I've lucky enough to to do a lot and it's something I love doing. I mean I sat on the air sometimes tournaments that you know. It's such an honor privileged to be doing it because as a tennis fan my whole life you know. Don't consider it a job. I'm very lucky doing something I really really love. And that's all really can ask for you. Mentioned sort of how the attention to detail in the writing can help the TV. Tv helped the writing effort to go the other direction too. Well helps in the sense that I get to watch a lot of tennis I believe and so I think I have a pretty good grasp of the players so it helps to foster ideas because you know for example. I'll give you an example I was watching an accommodated a master on the Brazilian player. A couple of years ago Eliane Pereira And I was digging up homework doing research for her master when she was playing at home. And I just read Interesting stuff about her. How she grew up in really extreme poverty you know. She didn't have a bathroom in her house. She had her bathroom in kind of the back garden. And so I thought well that'd be nice idea to do a longer feature a long story on inside that Saranda presumably written for the time. Remember that So it does help I mean and I think Ben as you know the more you homework you do on any subject on any play you realize that every player has a great story or has a story to tell I think that's the lesson that I learned. I try to bring them in the booth especially at times when a match is getting out of hand when it's not it's not as dramatic in oak at six one five two or six one three love. Matt out of Control. I think you want to sprinkle in those nuggets Talk about other stuff rather than you know the rallies techniques stuff.
Tennis plans virus-related financial fund: 800 players, $6M
"Well the governing bodies of tennis plan to announce as soon as this week that they're starting a fund of over six million dollars to help stem the financial tide of the corona virus pandemic for about eight hundred tennis players you know not all of them make as much as Serena Williams on that circuit now eight hundred players splitting six million evenly if they just stop with six million at all comes out to about seventy five hundred dollars per
Dr. Larry Lauer on improving your mental skills
"Hello. Everyone welcome to the tennis. Dot Com. Podcast we are in Lake Nona at the US J. National Campus. I'm your host Nina. Panic joined by my co host. Irena Falconi. Hey guys. How's it going this episode? Special guest is Dr. Larry Lower Larry Welcome. Thanks for having me. I'm looking forward to it. Can you give us a brief little bio about who you are and what you do here? Well here I'm the mental skill specialist for player development. I work with are pros and our juniors Getting Ready for competition preparing mentally. I work with the coaches as well to get players ready. So my job is while the coaches work on the physical side is to work on the players mental side and make sure that they're prepared for competition as well as helping them deal with things that happened in their life. So it's not just about The player on the court but the player off the court as well the holistic approach. And it's my job to make sure that the players have what they need to compete in a happy way in a healthy way and a high functioning way. Have you always wanted to do this from the very beginning was this? You're calling well not since I was a baby but Certainly when I not not really no being not being facetious anymore being serious when I was younger I wanted to be a coach and civically a baseball coach. I wanted to play professional baseball. And that didn't work out We don't need to get into that and this podcast and since tennis sports play so I had decided I was going to be a coach and maybe actually go into commentating. On Television Live sports events. I was interested in and so went to Clarion University. My Hometown University and really wasn't that interested in the courses and communication and and the degree. So I I ran into the psychology doctor Dr Easily Krause who knew that I played sports and coaching as well and she said hey you know there's actually something called sports psychology. I was around nineteen years old. I'm like what does that was. Clueless had no idea. This is dating myself but this was like nineteen ninety-two right. What is that and she said? Well come check it out. I'm going to have a special course on sports psychology and so I took the course and love. It fell in love with it and at that point. I knew that's what I wanted to do. Because an answer questions I had about my own performances in terms of at times playing great and other times. Not Performing You know going in and going four for four and having a home run and three RB is in the next game striking out four times. And why does that happen and why are sometimes feel on and other times just way off? Why sometimes in the feudal my locked in and other times? I'M MAKING MISTAKES. Couldn't answer it for myself necessarily and. I wanted to know to help myself but also to help the players that I was coaching in Baseball Thomas. Coaching sixteen seventeen eighteen year old Baseball in Pennsylvania says I dug deeper into psychology and and Indus. Four psychology started answering the questions that I had so that that was really the start and then I was fortunate to be able to go to. Unc Greensboro with Dr Dangled Who's one of the best sports psychologist in the world and having worked with him? I really got a deep understanding of what it means to perform under pressure and in really the literature sports psychology and Research and application. And really that kind of set me up. That's that's a quick version of it for what I'm doing today. I know you said baseball is not the same as tennis. But you can relate to players who have struggled in their sport given your background playing sport but you can also maybe I know you work with professionals who maybe are successful. But you probably people that. Don't make it right absolutely so you can relate to. I WANNA get dark. Unless you can relate you can really yeah. You can relate to someone who is struggling with finding their identity after thinking they were. GonNa make it as a pro and not getting there right. So how did you? How did you work through that if you can talk about that and you know? Is there a formula for figuring yourself out after your dreams and your hopes kind of change that is deep this early? So that's a great question you know getting into my psyche this turning turning the tides on me. We're GONNA talk about Irena. We will okay good so much better about that well honestly schering dot. Me That was that was a process Having gone to college and and and walked onto play baseball and it didn't work out and I didn't really understand recruiting process and probably could played somewhere but ended up not playing coming from a small rural area and losing that dream. That point was really difficult. And so I'm I'm age. Nineteen you know and and not yet mature as I am now. I know it's hard to believe. But and and it took a while it was kind of a tailspin for a while I was. I wouldn't say I was depressed but I was pretty down about it and upset that this dream that I had didn't work out. And it took me some time to sort of regroup and certainly being in college and and having those experiences helped a lot where I was exposed to different things and ended up really being mentored in a in a wonderful way by Dr Crowson. In the field of psychology. And helping me take something that You know was a big disappointment in not being able to further my baseball career and actually turn it into something. We're now my mission is to help. Other people have what they need to be successful. Because I felt like maybe I missed out on some things for sure. I miss out on some things. I didn't understand the psychology. I didn't understand the process of figuring out how to get seen and recruited and go to college and play baseball. I didn't I don't understand any of that. I didn't have that opportunity so I wanna make sure that the players that I have a chance to come in contact with have what they need to reach their goals whether or not they do. It ends up being on them. But I don't WanNa be the reason that they don't get there and that's really important so that that changed my whole outlook on life but it took some soul searching and sometimes of just you know like what am I gonNa do you know. And there's no like easy way is not like okay. Do these three steps and it works out you need to. You need to go there. You need to think about what it is you want and realize that you know as my friend David Roth for. Who's ex-navy seal said that you have more than one mission in life the mission changes and for me that Dreamer. That mission changed at age. Nineteen where base? No baseball was no longer an option as as a player and I had to figure out what I was going to do and I found a new mission that was to help other athletes and help coaches. And that's something I truly love and enjoy and that's probably where a lot of the passion comes from because you know I hate to see people miss out on an opportunity at least have the chance to be successful. Speaking of helping people a lot of coaches talk about being able to see something special and a player that does eventually make it. Do you find that. It's easy to to to see that with With players that you work with are you able to see whether their mental skills are above and beyond someone that potentially does not make it? I think I can see the outliers. Pretty well. The people who just stand out but probably most people can one of the one of the things I think we fall. Prey to his as coaches is believing that we know. Who'S GONNA make it? And who's not and if you go back through history of looking at drafting or selection processes were not very good at determining and identifying. Who's GonNa make an WHO's not? It's really a numbers game to be honest. You you make enough choices. You'RE GONNA hit on somebody right so and not to others a lot of people out there that do this work and there's a lot of good people out there but it's really challenging to no no of someone can can do this at the highest level but what I will say is the thing that you look for. I is to someone have the passion to do tennis to do. The whatever given initiative sport activity it is and that is something that you you can see in person as you spend time with them I think it's a fallacy to think that you can go watch a player once or twice a tournament and thank. You have a figure it out you know. Thirteen fourteen year old player. Once you get to know someone I think you can start to understand better than this person may be has the building blocks of something pretty special but it needs to be now nurtured and developed and that in my mind you know there's not many players is not many. Serena's there's not many rodgers out there so but there's a lot of great players who developed through the pathway right and we wouldn't have known at thirteen but we know now
Dr. Larry Lauer on improving your mental skills
"I'm your host Nina. Panic joined by my co host. Irena Falconi. Hey guys. How's it going this episode? Special guest is Dr. Larry Lower Larry Welcome. Thanks for having me. I'm looking forward to it. Can you give us a brief little bio about who you are and what you do here? Well here I'm the mental skill specialist for player development. I work with are pros and our juniors Getting Ready for competition preparing mentally. I work with the coaches as well to get players ready. So my job is while the coaches work on the physical side is to work on the players mental side and make sure that they're prepared for competition as well as helping them deal with things that happened in their life. So it's not just about The player on the court but the player off the court as well the holistic approach. And it's my job to make sure that the players have what they need to compete in a happy way in a healthy way and a high functioning way. Have you always wanted to do this from the very beginning was this? You're calling well not since I was a baby but Certainly when I not not really no being not being facetious anymore being serious when I was younger I wanted to be a coach and civically a baseball coach. I wanted to play professional baseball. And that didn't work out We don't need to get into that and this podcast and since tennis sports play so I had decided I was going to be a coach and maybe actually go into commentating. On Television Live sports events. I was interested in and so went to Clarion University. My Hometown University and really wasn't that interested in the courses and communication and and the degree. So I I ran into the psychology doctor Dr Easily Krause who knew that I played sports and coaching as well and she said hey you know there's actually something called sports psychology. I was around nineteen years old. I'm like what does that was. Clueless had no idea. This is dating myself but this was like nineteen ninety-two right. What is that and she said? Well come check it out. I'm going to have a special course on sports psychology and so I took the course and love. It fell in love with it and at that point. I knew that's what I wanted to do. Because an answer questions I had about my own performances in terms of at times playing great and other times. Not Performing You know going in and going four for four and having a home run and three RB is in the next game striking out four times. And why does that happen and why are sometimes feel on and other times just way off? Why sometimes in the feudal my locked in and other times? I'M MAKING MISTAKES. Couldn't answer it for myself necessarily and. I wanted to know to help myself but also to help the players that I was coaching in Baseball Thomas. Coaching sixteen seventeen eighteen year old Baseball in Pennsylvania says I dug deeper into psychology and and Indus. Four psychology started answering the questions that I had so that that was really the start and then I was fortunate to be able to go to. Unc Greensboro with Dr Dangled Who's one of the best sports psychologist in the world and having worked with him? I really got a deep understanding of what it means to perform under pressure and in really the literature sports psychology and Research and application. And really that kind of set me up. That's that's a quick version of it for what I'm doing today. I know you said baseball is not the same as tennis. But you can relate to players who have struggled in their sport given your background playing sport but you can also maybe I know you work with professionals who maybe are successful. But you probably people that. Don't make it right absolutely so you can relate to. I WANNA get dark. Unless you can relate you can really yeah. You can relate to someone who is struggling with finding their identity after thinking they were. GonNa make it as a pro and not getting there right. So how did you? How did you work through that if you can talk about that and you know? Is there a formula for figuring yourself out after your dreams and your hopes kind of change that is deep this early? So that's a great question you know getting into my psyche this turning turning the tides on me. We're GONNA talk about Irena. We will okay good so much better about that well honestly schering dot. Me That was that was a process Having gone to college and and and walked onto play baseball and it didn't work out and I didn't really understand recruiting process and probably could played somewhere but ended up not playing coming from a small rural area and losing that dream. That point was really difficult. And so I'm I'm age. Nineteen you know and and not yet mature as I am now. I know it's hard to believe. But and and it took a while it was kind of a tailspin for a while I was. I wouldn't say I was depressed but I was pretty down about it and upset that this dream that I had didn't work out. And it took me some time to sort of regroup and certainly being in college and and having those experiences helped a lot where I was exposed to different things and ended up really being mentored in a in a wonderful way by Dr Crowson. In the field of psychology. And helping me take something that You know was a big disappointment in not being able to further my baseball career and actually turn it into something. We're now my mission is to help. Other people have what they need to be successful. Because I felt like maybe I missed out on some things for sure. I miss out on some things. I didn't understand the psychology. I didn't understand the process of figuring out how to get seen and recruited and go to college and play baseball. I didn't I don't understand any of that. I didn't have that opportunity so I wanna make sure that the players that I have a chance to come in contact with have what they need to reach their goals whether or not they do. It ends up being on them. But I don't WanNa be the reason that they don't get there and that's really important so that that changed my whole outlook on life but it took some soul searching and sometimes of just you know like what am I gonNa do you know. And there's no like easy way is not like okay. Do these three steps and it works out you need to. You need to go there. You need to think about what it is you want and realize that you know as my friend David Roth for. Who's ex-navy seal said that you have more than one mission in life the mission changes and for me that Dreamer. That mission changed at age. Nineteen where base? No baseball was no longer an option as as a player and I had to figure out what I was going to do and I found a new mission that was to help other athletes and help coaches. And that's something I truly love and enjoy and that's probably where a lot of the passion comes from because you know I hate to see people miss out on an opportunity at least have the chance to be successful.
Nick Saviano from world the renowned Saviano Tennis Academy
"Hi Nick Welcome to the Functional Tennis podcast pleasure to be here. I've been meaning to get you on the show while we have your honor top academies around the world page which is probably one of our most viewed pages on the website. So it's great to of see. We've the Blurb Rebecca Academy and all the details would. It's great to speak to the main mind as well so delighted to chat which tell me how is life at the moment with all this cove? It situation has DECAPA me gone well. Unfortunately we have had to shut the academy down at least temporarily as all the Kaddoumi's in Florida have done and I guess around the World. But we've been able to stay in touch with our players and we are poised and ready to go as soon as they open. Things are coming in the next week or two. So we're pretty excited to get back out on the courts and fully functioning. Well that's great news. You haven't locked all your players in Lake. Rafeh did no. I didn't know he locked them all in but no we have not done that in a lot of our players actually are here with emily members or they're at private housing so we're good to go. He had me. Did Inscribe live with I think was Andy Murray Sane? Whenever they got closed down whoever was stuck there had to stay there. Nobody's lead in or out so he's running a tight ship over there. Well you have to. Whenever you're dealing with. Young people is enormous responsibility. So you always have to err on the side of caution. Yes no true. It's different when you're entrusted by parents to do the best for the kids so I think you're right. It's really important. So tell me a bit of empty Kademi. How long has the KADEMI being an operation? Well I started the academy shortly after leaving the US. Ta at the US was a national coach for boys tennis. I was eventually director coaching for men's tennis for the United States. I played on the tour for nine years and then I was also the head of high performance coaching education which was really actually exciting and then after that when I left I opened the academy in two thousand and three in. I started working with a few players I decided I really wanted to go out on my own and established my own methodology and a lawsuit for coaching and working with young people. So way back then. Two thousand three. That's when we started and it went extremely well and some of the believe it or not some of the first people I was working with were jan-michael Gambill. And also Vince Spadea. And also very young. Eleven year old. Sloan Stevens came a few years later and Jeannie Bouchard and Monica Point Again. A lot of other really good players started evolving or coming. And so it's been really exciting. It's been an amazing experience. Actually over the years up really really enjoyed it. Let's just cut back a bit before the academy and before. Usda tour life. You're a top fifty player. What was it like in the late seventies being a top fifty player? It was an amazing experience. I was one of the top. Juniors in the United States at the end of the year is ranked tree in the country. Then was the top recruit going into college so I wanNA going to Stanford. University was an all American there my freshman and sophomore year. Then I turned pro but back then I was one hundred thirty two in the world when Charon pro took me only four months and I was in the top hundred so the depth and the game wasn't quite the same as it is now so in one respect it was. Let's say less of a long grind to get into the top one hundred but on the other hand the rewards weren't as great nowadays. The players go to phenomenal hotels. They get paid and qualifying. The money is great. I remember I got around sixteen. At Wimbledon twice and the specific number I remember was four thousand pounds now. Four THOUSAND POUNDS. That probably is about seven or eight thousand dollars. Not even that much and today. I'm not sure what the guys in the gals paid for a fourth-round let's say Wimbledon. But I would suspect it's probably in the two hundred thousand range so money has changed a lot but it's more than just the money the quality of the way everything runs on the tour the ability to communicate with people. You know you have the phones. You have computers when I was playing. We didn't have cell phones. Believe it or not so completely different world when you went away for six weeks you really were far away. It was tough to get phone calls back with your families and so is a different way of life back then than it is now and I enjoyed it. I love playing the Grand Slams but I retired at twenty eight years old. I spent about eight and a half years on the tour and when I retired I was still in the top hundred for singles and doubles. I was recently married and we had our first child and when my first child was born. Nicole our daughter that was it. I said I'm done and I'm going to get a head start on the rest of my career which turned out to be coaching. Those a good decision and tell me what was your most memorable match. Great question one of the most memorable matches I ever had was in England. At Wimbledon I was playing a match against Pat Dupre. Who was a semi-finalist the year before and I believe at the time was ranch around twelve in the world and the day before I played buster macho from England and he was number one British player and I remember having served to save the match five or six times so I one nine seven in the fifth set and so I had to come out the next day and play again against Patty pray and this match was in cold fog long match and I remember my body aching and wound up winning at one. Twelve ten in the fifth set and I remember just kind of overcoming the exhaustion and at ten all eleven ten. I was ahead and I finally got a break point and I remembered to this day thinking okay. Should I go for this and ripped return because you know I just can't seem to break and this is one opportunity so I cheated thinking he was going to hit back in he did and I happened to hit it? Just right and boom. It was a winner and thank goodness over. I had a couple long matches. In Wimbledon at one with Brian Godfrey four in the world and that took either three or four days to complete believe it or not and I was down two sets to love and five two and it was almost nine o'clock at night the US keepers. Were all there waiting to the targets of the courts. So they're waiting for me to lose so I was down two point quickly. Want Upholding Sur. Five three and I played one of the best games of my life. Five four I bright serve. I hold sir. I break him and win the set then because we were there late. They didn't put me on I the next day and so they had a women's match on it rained a lot that day so that was a Friday. We only got like five games in so then pushed us over till Saturday but of course we were onto cords till very late again and so they didn't put us on ride again so we wound up playing one set and then it got dark again and then of course Sunday play so then we have to wait and then on Monday morning we played. We've finished the match and it had a happy ending. I one six one fits so those were my two good memories of Wimbledon long matches that stood out.
My favourite tennis match
"We'RE GOING TO BE KICKING OFF. A new series and looking at some of a favor owed time tennis. Matches will also be catchy on the tennis news as well a little bit catch on with the virtual Madrid Open. That's just happened Andy. Bari Packard a virtual school as well as the news. The tennis is actually starting up again in some parts of the world in Germany. But before we get into that Kim how you doing. How is how is lockdown? Treating much the same as last week H. O. By fairly fast actually despite the lack of store which is really weird. I think I've kind of just go used to it now but having said that I did cheat in worship Madrid. I didn't won't should awful. I have to say it was. Radi my cup of tea just kind of saying it on a playstation today. What is g thing? Yeah it was a bit of kind of a completely new scenario new situation and I think it's kind of recognizes that living in these times they can open up new opportunities and of course you know this is one of them in the tennis world and I thought it was kind of really interesting to say I think in terms of what I liked. I absolutely loved the place. Be BUYING INTO IT. And procreating like the war codes Up there that the herbs to the controller I really loved that I'd like pretending to warm up thumbs and I really liked the way that kind of the players go invested in it and we're kind of really enthusiastic about getting creative and and kind of showing it off on on social media See I think that was kind of one of the things I I really liked. I saw I think it was Belinda. Bench really went. Allow it like a tennis gear. As I said could walk up the stairs a yeah just thought it was great to see getting really enthusiastic about it. 'cause we've not seen them on a TV. We're not seeing the you know what she pilots. Whatever as fans over the last few months it's just almost kind of great great to see them again really. Yeah I thought that was. That was good like the best saying the players saying the engage with the wall. I thought bench probably owned that one. I just like the little bits in the corner. We can just see their faces as they're playing. You just want to see their homes in the pack right to see what what. They've gone like their bookshelves or like. I just find it really interesting is like through the Keyhole. But he the past and that is really hyping. The stands framed in the background. Well potentially coming up in this focus on his lovely shorts but no yeah I. I didn't really like actually watching this. Nsa Watch just liked having the players kind of interacting having a bit of a laugh so that was nice to see the thing. This format would. I didn't think I'd want to see this every week. I think it would get a bit repetitive. After a while but I think it was a good kind of one off thing and obviously Andy Murray one that we should give him credit for that because he's now won the tournament on three different surfaces. If you can cool the virtual sphere surface adolphus. The Andy has donated his prize. Money half is going to the NHS and half is Gordon to the players Relief Fund. So it's obviously for Good Kohl's and Kiki burdens won the women's event as well and I think she was actually due to defend. Muhtar to say she has succeeded into that are mixed in our love. I love that idea. She's she's the non virtual virtual back to back very innovative. Double D for a champion. But yeah I think yes kind of great to see I guess. Play his Getting involved I think one of the things that I think they could have done. Better way of is the had this common tree over the top of the of the players. Now I I was kind of the point where I think it's more insightful. And more interesting if you just let the play is very commentary because Y- They are tennis players that professionals at the end of the day you'll be ready. I think what bringing up level is kind of almost kind of getting them to kind of talk about the tactics or you know that sort of that sort of level that sort of layer that. Yeah well my sick on a Royal Corps And it's like if I was doing this show in real life. I would choose to go here because of X. Y. And Said Yeah. It could be more of an educational thing as well I think what I did. I cheat and they lost connection because I was watching on light-years addicts correct show. It was just having to could LE- sort of chats while they were waiting for everything to ten on again. Did you see the I think Diego Schwarzer was best. Play at Deborrah. The savvy FIDO's but due to a weak WIFI CONNECTION. Debry a sorry. Schwartzman had to concede walkway. So I mean I love that idea. The like I think that's going to be one of the VAD. The walkover reasons happens to the best of our good today that like even top tennis players have poor Wi fi and all safely on. La has had a bit of a Jake because he said that Rafa could play because he'd like injured his back reaching for his game controller. Which and everyone believes here. I think I mean I think we believed him as well. As we've always believed tweeted about be cowed they gig for Geria- saw and I thought this this off to the best of the fortunately that was not the case. Rafeh was able to play. But we'll just very gullible but yeah if they're going to do this again like I think it could cost you on. But just every now and again maybe they do in other Walden on like Wimbledon. I different surfaces. I assume this playstation game has all the different surfaces they do girl scout one. Couldn't they maybe federal workup? That yeah that I think it could work. I think it could coexist when the tools get back up and running. I wonder if it's a sort of you know in the in the grounds of the events and you have fans can go line up for like an autograph from players and I wonder whether you could be like. There's a stand somewhere grandson for example. Oh face off against some. I player playing tennis against them. Virtually Sake I could see that happening. I know there are a few comments. The game was almost up to like up to scratch And you know whether it's the improvements to be made with with the game and you know I think I think potentially peop- governing bodies like the ATP liked the W. H. E. A. Maybe they should be looking at partnering with Game's about to really kind of Mak- licensed game like fever. Because I think you know I think this is as you said. This is very new is almost kind of this was a test and you know. I think there is appetite for it but I think there's almost kind of a lot can be done on that so a product side of it. Yeah for sure. I'm sure that's an avenue. They could possibly see going for. It's an yeah I like the idea that you could maybe have a bit of a play on it while you are an event. Perhaps if during a rain delay or something and even on Joe we actually have some real tennis. That's happened this weekend in Germany. It's kind of the first actual players of setback on cool so they've done a little exhibition featuring Dustin Brown and seven other players including randomly the British benign. Yon Shouldn't ski. Who I think is based in Germany. Anyway so yeah. That's been happening this weekend. We'll see JEB. So you fall head of other countries. Getting back to normalcy. So they've been out to do this. Little event Neko blends at the Base Tennis Academy. It's GonNa oversee how necessary health and safety measures in place. So they've obviously not touching hands at the net. They're going to touch rockets instead. There's no ballboys fans line judges. They're obviously doing it. Very watered down version is not for any points or or anything. It's not count I guess. Prize money's involved. So it's I guess aimed at lower ranked players to to kind of keep them earning something during this time and I think it's only for players based within about ninety minutes of the event so it's overseas a very limited
Worst Tennis Podcast predictions ever
"Thank you. K- we've gone from exquisite to sanity saving. Which I think is a lockdown. Plus what do you think? Yeah when you send out. The emails to back is saying. Can you send in your records and Daniel Introduce D. Fish for compliments de requests that they put in some kind of see? Perla tive just if you feel like it feel free to pay a massive compliment. Actually this is an intro arms race which is happening independently of me is like when all mascots get involved in arms race to send his tennis related animal. Content can't believe look it's all fine and we also quite happy to receive your emails where it should be receiving by the bucket load over the last few weeks most of which saying very nice things and it really town on. You didn't share with me. The ones that don't say Nice Things. D that's correct catherine particularly in a week when we are about to reveal our worst of ever on the podcast and that means the worst of our predictions on this particular edition on Thursday. We're going to discuss the worst Grand Slam finals in history or have a debate about them and we're also going to talk about the worst of the rights which is going to be a a lot of fun to to try to work out when they were human when they weren't brilliant when it's rubbish things on Colton through an absolute shockers because his that kind of wealth of the mount. We've decided we're going to have one week where everything's rubbish and we're going to talk about it so we'll be getting on with that in a moment to. Catherine's had her own worst of week or weekend. Casteran you've had an uninvited guest in your flat. What's happened in? Yeah it's it's like the rodent population of Putney heard that we were celebrating. Worst-off week and A mouse his decided to invade my bedroom. Well we need the mouse on the lease because the the the rubbish cats bruin the mouse about five days ago. He's doesn't go any teeth. He was unable to wound or kill. The mouse brought to thanks very much for that magic And five days later at two o'clock in the morning the mouse makes an appearance on my curtain. And it's spent the entire night cooling up and down My clothes rail of favorite dress. Thanks very much and I do. I no longer know whether it's my mudgee nation or reality. I swear I can hear it nibbling bright. Now it's in the room. I mean it was last sighted in this room and I can now hear the sound of mouse like rustling but I I heard in my dreams as well so I don't know what's reality anymore. Any of it coming from where the unpacked suitcases demean unpacked. Yeah it's really relates to the suitcase and I I've started to become concerned that I mean would make a really good mouse nest and it is cracked open. Gist enough that a mouse could sneak in now to frayed to lift the LID. In case there is some sort of rodent party going on in that Humane mouse traps anonymous. Which is more than this? Mouse deserves some humane. Mastro's analyst should arrived to Murray an until then I'm just going to live in Miami personal horror movie for about to become a DJ. I hear on the radio station of the flats. Every this is the week that everything go really really locked down with A. I've been invested infested by reidents and my building. Someone in my building has launched Kenilworth Court FM. Yeah he he sent a message around to Orem community. What's great which was the most? Alan Partridge message. I've ever received and I really wanted to reply that. Alan Partridge gift. But I didn't know any of the people in this group. I'm just I didn't know how well hall we'd go down but yeah some local mall is an introducing Casey. Fm The world's most local radio station test music is now playing at his. The link and I hate to be live on Monday at four PM. Requests and dedications. Go to this email address. Say hello to your neighbors. Why not pick the music and six tracks? You'd like to hear. And why and we'll play the best of them. Test transmissions running here at the moment is playing. This is the absolute gold at the moment is playing random selections from my Music Library which would explain why earlier there was Donna. Summer fully by the King's thing is doing the highway code. If you have problems with it working please email. And then the moon address are looking thing is the most. That's just say part. Absolutely navy responded with any unappointed references. Say How disappointed. He's not my people. And meanwhile Catherine will be vying with her housemates to appear on the radio station. Choose the music. Because said housemate has served being critical of Bruce springsteen which has not gone down. Well you're revealing all of the cuisine of my living situation David. We ship predictions. Yeah Brilliant Yeah to infestations in the home and actual rate in an Bruce springsteen hated that thinks oh toilet is wounded great. What is your flat. Vetting process renew People in people could be people can deceive you. Matt's people on always what they appear to
Mutua Madrid Open announces online gaming and fundraiser tournament
"Because of this pandemic there's no baseball no basketball no tennis no Rafael Nadal grunting and grinding but he and other top players men and women are competing in a video game tournament in a digitally designed stadium to look like the one in Madrid Spain where they'd be playing this week about the return of tennis Nadal says he's very pessimistic because of all the global travel involved with the
Pam Shriver - US Open finalist aged 16, winning Olympic Gold, and partnering Martina Navratilova
"Thank you so much for doing. This is an absolute treat to have you come and yeah in very strange circumstances obviously for everybody in the world not just the tennis world. You're joining us from California. I believe how how things over there. How has lockdown? How you coping the situation and the lack of tennis in La Lives. Well I would say over all I'm really proud of my three teenagers at a time. When teenagers want to distance themselves from their parents. They've accepted what has to be done. I feel like California in the mayor of Los Angeles I live. We live in Los Angeles. So we've had some leadership both at the state level and and at the city level that has been really strong very consistent and I think that's one of the reasons why Are Part of the United States is actually done much better than expected in pleased that the generation who the order to stay at home. It's really counterintuitive to what they want but There's been a lot of acceptance in I can tell you as a homeowner sixteen years ago bought up property with a private tennis court. Tennis court is one of the reasons why a couple of us in the family have kept better sanity. How much you missing professional tennis right now? Well you know I missed Indian. Wells would have been an easy drive. I missed that one. The most I will tell you because of the business of my home life regardless of a pandemic or even if I'm just driving my three kids around and The the level of detail that I would follow the tour from week to week is not as detailed as it would be like when I worked for ESPN at Melbourne and maybe look the weeks leading up to Melbourne. I knew what was going on in the lead up tournament so for me personally. I haven't missed it that much but we haven't yet gone past one of the tournaments. I think would impact us the most which would be say for for me. Roland. Garros Wimbledon. I mean I thought the tennis will did a great job of I mean it was tough call for Indian Wells. I remember that Sunday night when it was called It took everybody by little bit by surprise but it just started the domino effect of what this virus in the effects on the world sports It just started a series of closures around the world yet studying to look like a very pristine cooled by by that tournament. Looking at your Your social media. You look like you've taken the opportunity during lockdown to have the most neatly and cleanly arranged trophy show in all of Iraq in Pam. Yeah one of my first during lockdown one of the first things I was thinking. Well little things can I post What content would be interesting and I thought all right well. My mantle pretentious fans would be interesting to see The the major championship doubles trophies. Most support try one with Martina. There was a US Open with a net. Pashas vary of there was some Fed Cup stuff. There was recognition of our Grand Slam doubles year as well as the year. I got the finals of US. Open in singles at Sixteen. So I thought it was kind of a fun tour and I guess most of the stuff I posted that one had the most views in. I think it just shows you how much people want to see one way or another or or touch any way major tennis. He absolutely in all of these things that that you just mentioned there. I I really want to talk about. I in first and foremost your your partnership with Martina Navratilova. Seventy four doubles titles together including Twenty Grand Slams. You're you're still the most successful women's doubles partnership of all time. What what made you such a great partnership the too well. I think there are a lot of things I think when you look at how we played our singles The style of play with serve volley back in the eighties. That was kind of. That's how you play doubles back then too so it was really Our our singles games translated into being great doubles players. Naturally the lefty righty combination. If you look in tennis history whether it's nukem Roach whether it's the Brian twins whether it's McEnroe Fleming There's a lot of great Lefty righty doubles teams. I just think you know the choice of who serves the sun's tougher righty. There's just a lot of things that are beneficial to having a lefty righty Our personalities you don't have a partnership that long if your personalities don't gel well We enjoyed each other Our senses of humor clicked in. There are a lot of those matches through the years where we would play after. Martina was the featured match at night So we played and we had to wait late night tennis So if you didn't enjoy each other and our coaches got along. Well obviously we had teams. That were much smaller back then. My team was generally just one Martino. It's one of the first that brought in teams of more than one But our team's got along well and so it just led to who knew that January eighty-one with lead to what it ended up leading to it was I think ultimately nineteen eighty that Martina. Kool G to US could be your your partner partner. What do you remember about that? Phone call was at Deer Creek Country Club in Deerfield Beach Florida having a late practice and I'm a member. Lee Jackson longtime referee for the tour and She came out and You know years and years before anyone has self owner yet said Martinez on the phone and I mean whoever is practicing with the it was the practice was abandoned Iran in got it got on the phone. And W T tour office and You know she asked me. She doesn't mix her words. She didn't learn a lot of pleasantries. Just asked me if I had that commitment to doubles partner for the next year and I said no I did not. I had just the. Us Open just a month prior. I'd gotten into the finals with Betty Stove in Betty Stove his last tournament. And we lost Billie Jean King and Martinez. I think it was six six or five and five and I think that was probably the last indicator. Martina needed that. She she she was looking for. A younger partner was starting. Her career could play for a period of time and so it was obvious it. I didn't even have to break commitment. Thank God because if I'd had a commitment to somebody I mean that would have been a tough a tough one to pass on playing doubles with Martina. So I'm glad it worked out that I didn't have a commitment to a partner confessed to a tip off from for Mary Carillo but she has suggested that that I ask you about asking Martina to sign a cocktail Napkin to seal to seal team together forever. Yeah well we had already been together a long time because we we. We went through a stage at think Springtime of eighty four. We lost in the tournament of Champions in Orlando. We didn't lose again for over two years so I think it was. One hundred nine straight matches When we hit a one hundred wins and it was in Eastbourne so the tournament director George. Tendon threw a party for us that night. And we were celebrating To to the history of tennis no one can remember doubles team ever hitting one hundred wins in a row so A I decided to take that moment. I wrote a contract on a on a peeper. Napping it says I'M MARTINA NAVRATILOVA. Promise always to play doubles with Pam. Shriver and I had a witness line. The George Hendon was signed in as I stood up to give the toast and give the contract Martinez in my head ended up in a lamp shade so it was kind of like it was funny and it was. I have that I have. I still have that cocktail napkins somewhere. But it's back in Baltimore. My hometown Collecting dust but will not be thrown out. One hundred nine matches is is truly extraordinary April nine hundred ninety three to July one thousand nine hundred five did you did you feel. Invincible is a team. Well a lot of those matches we went into the matches knowing we were going to win them. But there was a handful that were incredibly dicey and I remember one in particular that was Right in the middle while it was about win number seventy five and it was in Madison Square Garden against our longtime rival. They were generally the number two team behind us. For many of those years Souckova Elena Sakaba Claudia. Coda kill and we came down to a tiebreak in the final set and I remember it was five. All it was late in the tie-break whenever I was returning and Martina just said return it low and I'm going to go and I'm like yes ma'am you know like you WanNa. That was great. It was like a plan now. Of course then you still have to execute but I remember as soon as I hit the return like that's going to be a low. It was a good return. Sheet timed or poach perfectly. Put It away and then we won the next point on serve so that was the hairiest moments that was when we came within two points of losing. But other than that. I don't remember match where we were like. Matchpoints down we. We won a lot of those matches during that streak in
Federer: WTA/ATP Should Merge - our reaction; John Millman nearly retired, then beat Federer - our interview
"Hello everybody another tennis. Podcast for you won't we weren't planning to bring you a couple of days ago but you know we just can't get enough of this and the so much going on and yes okay. There's no tennis but the stuff to talk about and we've got an interview with Joe Millman for you so we'll have that later but Catherine is here. Catherine David Selamat had David and the reason. We're convening altogether now. Not just having the Joe Millman interview which had been the original plan until about four hours ago is about twelve twenty eight pm today. Russia Federa- tweeted and what he tweeted was just wondering am I. The only one thinking that now is the time for men and women's tennis to be united and come together as one at which point Catherine and I wanted whether this was a teaser to a bit of content that might be coming out between the two tours because they've been producing causes loss of that and then I thought it can't be that cooked because I mean we've had instagram and lives law but moments later he said I'm picturing a merger between the WTO and the ATP I'm not talking about merging competition underscores but merging the two governing bodies the. Wta that oversee the men's and women's professional tours it's too confusing for the fans when there are different ranking systems different logos different websites. Different tournament categories. It probably should have happened a long time ago. But maybe now is really the time these tough times in every sport and we can come out of this to weaken bodies or one stronger body. Now when you hear that when you read that out loud that is pretty strong stuff catherine and and have to. I mean okay. We've been moving towards that in terms of little bits of Combined content under brand of tennis united. And we've had a heard an interview that has been put our way by the of their new seat in the new chairman and drag at NC Talkin about more and more collaboration. But for Roger Federer to come out apparently unsolicited and just say it's time to merge the tolls that was bombshell stuff ready wasn't it behold this novel an exciting idea. Yeah it was pretty bombshell stuff. I mean obviously. It's a good idea. Obviously Reid you. The way you read out these tweets. That sounds entirely sensible great. Let's do it. I'm trying not to be Aussie and SNIFFY ABOUT CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF THE STORY. And the way it's developing and being told that is happening on twitter. I'm trying to be a bit. Socially distanced from tennis twitter. I say that with heavy equities because it makes me shudder a little bit But it can be a bit of a toxic place and I'm trying to not be embroiled in it but this whole story has dropped exclusively on tennis twitter sort of had to be reeled back in the sort of arms race to claim claimed territory and claim claim that. This was their ideal. This is the first time anyone had this idea. The facts that you know of one suddenly sitting up and taking native destroy quality when a man shouts about it. All of those things I there is a part of me that wants to be about the the. Oc posted me often wins. But I'M GONNA try and be utilitarian about it and think. Look if if this is how the right thing ends up happening then then fine you know and I'm I'm going to echo do some shadowing echoing into something that you're going to say in relation to a different issue Later in the POD. He's talking about the distribution of wealth and prize money among top level players which is now suddenly a a a burning topic or among plays in general and he says look. I can't believe it's taken a pandemic for for this to be taken seriously and for the real powers that be to consider addressing it. Will I feel exactly that way about the the unification of The governing bodies but hey it took countless examples. They were able to for the. Nhs happened say if the ends justify the means then great. I'm going to suppress for once my RC side. I slightly wants to be able to read that. Billie. Jean King's response on twitter to Roger Federer in the in the sort of tone of voice that you began that that line yourself because what she actually says is I agree and have been saying. So since the early nineteen seventies she. I reckon she didn't say it like that. I kind of wish you had. And then she goes on say one voice women and men together has long been my vision for tennis the WTI on its own was always planned. Be I'm glad we're on the same page. Let's make it happen Hashtag. One voice is what Billie Jean King replied with Samana. Halla Patrick Evita Gubbay. Meru all tweeted support for what Roger Federer had to say and then I found the Dow tweeted. Hey Roger Federa- as you know per hour discussions. I completely agree that it would be great to get out of this world crisis with the Union of men's and women's tennis in only one organization which yeah suddenly makes all of this same quite premeditated between the two of them will maybe more than two of them. We haven't had anything I should say on this subject from Novak. Chuck rich the president of the council at this point. But it doesn't feel like this is just some using that Roger. Federer has just done while he's bored in lockdown as such A. It sounds as though it's been given quite a bit of thought he's had this chat so we've been reminded of this press conference. The rough on the Dow was involved in in two thousand nine hundred Australian Open when he responded to questions about whether he thought that should be a combined organization between the deputy. Atp with just telling us a misunderstanding. So he doesn't didn't understand really why that would be a good idea why we should talk about that. Why why that should be on the agenda And so this is a very very different tone now. Obviously we weren't in the middle of a global pandemic at that point. The world looked very different. It may it may well be that people who had previously never given a second thought to a combined organization of Sydney. Actually th. That's the way out of this. That's a good idea and got to be ready for that. But it's it's pretty stark. Isn't it the difference in town? Yeah I mean elements of needles. Tweet genuinely made me laugh out loud. First of all any suggestion that Is Great is his. English is Spanish as a first language adult composed. Hey at Roger Federer as per discussions. I mean absolutely no way. Is That tweet composed by Rafael Nadal? Himself as per I've ever seen his tweets to Anna Ravenna. Vish venevision join twitter. He said I look forward to our discussions on this means of communication when it was back in the early days of twitter. It was really sort of formal. And it's like a tweet anyway. It kind of reminded me of that one. Yeah so I mean yeah I mean that's not anything. Groundbreaking is that. He didn't necessarily compose himself. And if I was tweeting in a second language I would probably ask for some assistance as well. We've got to eat so I'm not having a pulp about that. But it the the sort of the attempt to say this. This was my idea too. I this came from a discussion that we both had. I was in on this too. That made me laugh because yeah I mean he. He kind of gets a slightly on it from me included because I think I kind of write him off of somebody. That's just not not hugely engaged with the with the wider. She's in Tennessee. And he kind of mice to the time brushes off interrogation about them as sort of. Oh you'll have to ask other people that are that are better informed and have have moose stake in it than than me. I'm not the best person to speak to you. That that clip. That's going around on twitter from the loss. Jesus straighten open is a good example of that. But the fact is he. He hasn't been supportive of equality in In Women's Tennessee's very much market forces based approach T. V. Prize money in the tools etc. So yeah this is. It's a bombshell.
Novak Djokovic Expresses Resistance to Coronavirus Vaccine
"Tennis superstar Novak Djokovic on a recent post on Instagram admitted he's troubled about the possibility of players needing to get mandatory vaccinations against covert nineteen once the vaccine is created before they are able to play again joke of it's a little bit of I don't know black cat type of guy black helicopters type of guy but says you know what if these things are compulsory we have a choice and he doesn't want to have that choice possibly being taken out of his
Djokovic says tennis 'big three' plan to help lowest-ranked players
"Top ranked men's tennis player Novak Djokovic says he has spoken with Roger Federer and Rafa Nadal about working with the ATP to set up a fund to help lower ranked tennis players financially affected by this pandemic filbert describe what he called a long conversation with Federer Nadal about how they could contribute and how they can help lower rank guys were struggling the most he talked about trying to amass somewhere around three to four and a half million to distribute perhaps the players rank between two hundred and seven hundred the
Djokovic says tennis 'big three' plan to help lowest-ranked players
"Top ranked men's tennis player Novak Djokovic says he has spoken with Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal about working with the ATP to set up a fund to help lower ranked tennis players financially affected by this pandemic Philbin's described what he called a long conversation with Federer Nadal about how they can contribute and how they can help lower right guys who are struggling the most he talked about trying to amass somewhere around three to four and a half million to distribute perhaps the players right between two hundred and seven hundred the
How to Begin to Restart, with Mark Ein
"Welcome to no challenges remaining. I am Ben Rothenberg on this week's show. I am joined by Mark On. Who was the owner of the city open tennis tournament on the ATP and W T tour which is held annually in Rookery Park in Washington DC is a terminus Ben at the same venue for fifty years as a big standing tradition in the summer tennis calendar in the United States and it's also potentially the next tennis term on the calendar with a bunch of determines before it having been canceled is only April but already we know that there will be no European clay court season at least pre Wimbledon and all the grass season has gone so Washington suddenly stands in April as the next big landmark on the tennis horizon with being the first big combined? Atp WTI tournament still on the schedule currently so with that in mind? We talk mark about what it's been like this while is uncertainty different contingencies. That are being talked about in the tenth world and hopefully you'll find this conversation illuminating in these strange murky times. Here's mark very happy to be joined on the show today by mark on who is. The owner of the city opened the Washington tennis tournament Washington. Summer tennis tradition I believe is your slogan eighteen. Wto tours the annual stuff every late July early August although this year obviously there's a lot of uncertainty in the air so mark. Thank you very much for being on here and chatting in this in this weird moment. We're having appreciate it. Always always great to chat. And and Ben. That's more than a slogan it is. It's true no it's true. It is washing summer tennis tradition. I one of the first times I went to the city opened which was send the League Mason Tennis Classic Back in the Ninety S. I want actually WANNA radio contests for tickets for some. I forget what the Trivia question was by some trivia question and they asked me which days I wanted tickets forge session for. They gave me like all possible sessions and I picked the final Michael. Chang wanted that year and remember that so I remember that one and I might started mine. Vomit tournament is a ball kid when I was twelve years old. So for Eddie dibbs and Harold Solomon engage. All short guys like myself a shot. I thought that they might actually be on the court someday. But that didn't happen to turn this into Eddie. Dibbs podcast briefly. I believe I believe he was the one that came up with the term Bagel that sort of his lasting like they were they were the Bagel brothers. Eddie dibbs Herald Sun Herald was from Silver Spring Maryland. Down the street so there's Great Danes as Gray Days. So you own the tournaments. Since last year the term it was in danger of moving out of DC and it was for sale in you bought it and kept it in DC. Which I many others are grateful for. I'm just curious how. How is your first year owning attorney? What was that first experience? Like as you've been in tennis for a long time and other other serves two roles but was that experience like and I guess looking forward a little bit. What kind of stuff we are looking forward to for for twenty twenty. I'm it was. It was fantastic and we really had is a great fifty year old man. It's the fifth biggest tournament the United States one of only the only ATP five hundred in the United States and one of only five combined events and You know it was a really terrific event but we had this vision for how we can take to to totally new level and so even though we got it we literally only got control of it. In March I thank so it was a real sprint to get it ready. You know I think we did we really. I think revolutionized the event can complete change in the site. The Food and beverage the player experience. Everything we really wanted to touch. Every single component of the event our motto was that we would never say. We're doing something because that's the way it was done in the past where we're going to try to thank. Outta do things differently and you know. The results were incredible. We broke every record. The tournaments ever had everything shattered them on and what was really great. Was that when we started the week? It look good but it didn't look like it was going to break records that people came to the site and went to the new food area and tried the food people like Jose. Andres and people locally. We had the best ice cream plays July. The best coffee plays the best burger plays. Moei came and did stuff of through word of mouth it. Just people started coming incoming. We ended up selling out seven of the eleven sessions. And I think what it just showed to me. Was that tennis as we know from events like Indian Wells and the US Open and a whole lot of events when it's done well a high level people respond tenants fans common. They love it but then other people come. I think that was really rewarding to just see this great reaction and our team work really hard and so it's really gratifying. And then yeah we didn't I mean we we were. We are planning on building on last year. We have a whole set of new food and beverage partners new seating areas a whole bunch of stuff that we were about to launch the campaign to talk to people about in Indian Wells and obviously that was the first event to be cancelled and we also put a pause on our marketing efforts. It seems like in the current state of the world. That's not the most important thing but whenever we pick it up hopefully this year or whenever it is we're going to build on last year and just keep building and growing and We have really high really high goals for that sort of the moment. I think that everybody in tennis will point to is sort of when things got real and the corona virus situation for tennis getting cancelled which has happened very shortly before that terminus supposed to start the day before quality started. What was your reaction to that news and I guess had you had already been on your radar from from the city open perspective before then or was that really the wake up call moment. I think that was kind of I mean. There is a series of you. Know a series of things happen that heightened your sensitivity to it But that was maybe the tablets to saying. Oh Wow this is different back as soon as it happened. I texted one of my best friend who happens to own an NBA team. And I sent him a note and I said this isn't just for. Tennessee is big for all of sports. Because you know at that point no one had cancelled any. It wasn't just the percentage of that. It was the first major sporting event to be full. And Yeah and here. We are today. So yeah that whole time and and you know Indian Wells really is a mecca for everyone in the tennis world the whole global tennis community flocks there every year. And it's almost five hundred thousand kids almost big as the French Open or close to beg so some of that size and scale gets cancelled. It's opened a lot of people's lives up to the issue. We're dealing with what once you're once. You're that sort of alert happens. Then I guess. Obviously all the children's center immediately after that our media on standby like Miami Charleston. Houston but for you what. What was your thought process on how I'm watching? The ripples of this work their way through the calendar. You know it's so interesting ban. I mean that was not even I guess it was just about a month ago and you just today. We know so much more 'cause we're all quasi obsessed with every little detail of this if you can put yourself back to where we were a month ago. We had no idea about tests vaccines and treatments and social distancing. I don't think that at the time we necessarily at all thought. Oh this is gonNA endanger the prospects of hosting. The city opened obviously enters. Your mind was totally unknown. What we were dealing with a month ago and obviously all know so much more today but back then we thought. Maybe it's a possibility but we definitely didn't think that it was a foregone conclusion. What does this last month? Ben Like for you. What is it like sort of from this event? Obviously everyone's lives period. You're staying indoors like everybody else. I'm sure but what is your just from the from the Tennis City Open Van Vantage Point? What is it been like for this month or so? Yeah I mean look. The first thing that I focused on was just make sure my family is safe and healthy and that we were set up in a way so that everyone in the family would be okay. That was the first thing and then frankly bend the the next thing I had to focus on. Is that we have you know we own our own a lot of a bunch of companies and I really wanted to make sure that and it was clear this was going to be a rough economic time and so I wanted to make sure the people who work in those companies were in good shape as possible and I'm really proud that as of today we haven't had zero layoffs furloughs salary reduction just because we've been laser focused on figuring out how to. Mirol in pretty good shape and had resources but also just really protecting the people who work in those companies was my next priority so even I'm not going to the office. I'm working. I think I work pretty hard and I'm working harder now than ever just trying to do that. And then you know and then there is a lot of work around planning for the city open and it's different because it's not in front of us. Obviously I wanted to make sure the team that works on. It is safe so we were very early and having people work from home. And now we're just scenario planning bandit some you know. There's really four scenarios one is the event goes off as usual To is is that it goes off without fans which is the topic of a Lotta conversation in a lot of sports. Three is a hybrid where it goes off but there are some fans an enforce. Obviously it's cancelled and You know we're doing everything we can to problem solve and be creative to find a way that we can do it somehow but it only is going to happen if we can assure that it's safe for people And so just a huge amount of work going into China. Figure that out.
Ted Robinson: What Does Tennis Look Like When It Returns?
"I talk with Ted Robinson. He has podcast for Youtube. And I said you know what? Let's just talk between ourselves all. Take the audio you take the audio. We could both use it for our own purposes. So this is a fun discussion. You know. Ted Of course from his longtime working tennis on. Nbc USA Tennis Channel often alongside. John McEnroe great friend of the sport. Great broadcaster journalist the sport little backstory about ten years. Ago Ted Rope me into joining him on a segment. We call passing shots for tennis channel. Then Nathan tennis gentle. This essentially is my intro to Tennis on TV. Luckily he covered for my for my amateur habits. We have revised passing shots. Hopefully it's a little better than it was in in two thousand eight or whatever when we debuted this. But this is ted in T- Ten and I are talking here and it's a number of tennis topics. Ted is in northern California. I am hold up on the East Coast. We Talk About Tennis. We asked the question. Does this break benefit anyone? What is tennis? Look like when we return. Is there such a thing normalcy? What is the role of society in a pandemic where we didn't go that far but A lot of fun tennis talk with Ted Robinson and here. We are all right. Let's so we're GONNA try to keep this mayor John. I had the one of those people from the very beginning when the rolling gap. So the ED T. said we're moving. I was my first reaction. Was that's awesome. Somebody is actually taking a proactive step to give something positive. I understand the means. Were not necessarily the best the end though. I think it was well worth it. Yeah I'm Kinda with you. I mean this is one of the four pillars of the sport. And everybody's saying well. There was a breach of etiquette. What about the communication? Could you imagine what would have happened if the F. T. had gone through these channels and asked all of the events that it conflicted with if they might be okay there would be threats of Litigation? There would be board meetings. There would be conference calls. They just said you know what? We're the big dog. We're putting up fifty million dollars in prizemoney. Two hundred fifty six players are going to get fifty grand. If they don't win a point we think the players are gonNA play. Here's our date deal with it and I get it. I don't think this was particularly healthy to tennis in the long term. I understand why people are upset but also I understand from their perspective. They're one of the four biggest events and they've got a right to wield a little bit of power. Well he means we're great we also though. I think we've all been around the French Roland Garros and Fritz Federation enough to know. They NECESSARILY CARE. They just do what they want to understand that that people's feelings of these are extraordinary times. They they do what they do and they do it more so when they have whatever how many hundreds of million dollars of debt service on on a new roof and they do it when they don't have insurance unlike Wimbledon where they don't get any sort of recompense if they don't hold the event I get it I mean we we can talk about Means versus ends and we can talk about process versus outcome. But I understand why did with did. I reminded I say this to you. I think you've read the story for the years. That and it was the early twenty tens I forget which year but Joe Vision. Doll ended up playing the final into Monday. So on Friday of that final weekend it was about six hundred percent chance of rain on Sunday. And you saw that was probably gonna be joking reaching the dollar. Appoint where you thought they could easily take five hours to play so NBC sort of gently a little bit of my father with our great phrase. John McGuinness producer Think about bumping up the star time because they start at three basically three ten I ball which gives you six hours to play five hours a grueling larger fair and maybe WANNA bump it up and started a couple of hours of REC- hits rain delay. No we cannot interfere with lunch so many of the high end sponsors spend any they promote the final day lunch for your day higher very highly successful shafts planks was menus. We do not wrestlers lunch. I always joke that the media Cafeteria Roland. Garros has its paige day and they have a wine steward and they have different chief selection of in your Houston media dieting. Usually being you know you're you're eating soup with their hands in the you know the meadowlands. If the media dining has their own pyeho chef you can only imagine the dining options for the people that have Spent tens of thousands of dollars for the courtside seats but no lunches sacred which is also the review. No this lunches. That's also why they say I can't believe this it's a grand slam. Semifinal in the stands are only half packed those tickets have been sold and those people are on the ground. They just have a fork in one hand in a night and the other and they'll get to the tennis when they finish their last declare and of course. I joke final. They ended up getting burned by the way the Dow Stock Dazzling. It's not play that day but the referee to stop late Dawson. I'm out and in cost everybody in the cost us a lot of money to pay for everybody's flies to change in extra day but across the federation allowed light right to reopen the grounds the next day to two thousand one. Wimbledon I was told was one of the pats at the club. Now getting certainly they can absorb this. There's a million ounce to real the Nicole on Monday with zero revenue coming in to play raft refereed. Amici's explain what's interesting about all this including this whole discussion we've been having about closed-door events where you just hold the events for for TV and not for fans in the stands this has really been an interesting referendum on how much do these events and these leagues Value TV and media. How much do they value sponsors? How much they value common fans. And how much do they value the sweets? And if appeasing the guys who are buying your sweets me more than TV. I I can see why they would renew it the next thing. I mean what's interesting? I this is other rumor so I WANNA informal setting and I hope this won't be used against the the rumor I've heard a few times now. Is that the US Open. A really are hell bent on playing the event this year. They've even look into alternative dates in one of the big holdups is they've got to do right by. Espn AND IS ESPN want the US Open? Deep in the fall when they have all their college football. They've got Monday night football they don't And I think the. Usda has got to figure out. How much do they want to put on this event in how much they willing to do it even if it means pissing off their biggest TV partners you? John that's by next passing shot and the point is you just touched on. I think every sport is going through this. How do we come back? I think it's imperative for chance to come back with competition as soon as they can't sake safely's the obvious caveat here but safely meaning there may not be for a very limited fans but competition. And I'm coming this John Lewis standpoint of players ranked and we can all week each throw a dart and say seventy five hundred below. I know you've already touched on this on. Tv lied about this but those players and by the way there is sorting teams physios trainers administrators the Chiro bars. The administrators of the tourists broadcast entities around the world. All sorts of lamb chops alive. And I stayed. It's imperative for tennis when safe to have competition even if it means competition with limited X. over to play devil's advocate there. I mean I I I agree with you but the one thing I've heard is is the counter to that is look. You're talking about athletes from all over the world from different countries with different health. Standards you're talking about T as you say teams and Physios and journalists and tournaments to have an even if you have a closed door scenario and even if you don't have doubles juniors you're still talking about hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people walking around the grounds given what we know about these spread rates and given what we know about how many fatalities result from these rates. If they're a thousand people at a major which is a conservative. That's pretty low estimate given their two hundred fifty six players in the May draw a thousand people. You're still probably likely to have a few fatalities Do we do. We risk that it. What do we do for a global sport where Western Europe might be on the man but other parts of the world might be behind? Do we say we're GONNA have the US Open but if you're from India Iran I'm just making up countries but if you're from five countries you can't play. Is that fair to still hold an event L. Rasiah and I think this is what's going on hold is this is my dead and company. Has FOR WITH BILL? Walton took me to see the dead New Year's Eve Senator San Francisco and I think everybody should have to add. Lorries is what I'm saying. I think whenever we come at everybody's GonNa be tested right and you're gonNA have to have a badge. The crucial so. I think that's GonNa be the answer at how this plays out. I'm researcher Techni- Martha but I believe that's how it's going after before you have any competition whether it's domestic or international status everybody's GonNa have to have some badges
Sam Querrey on becoming a stay-at-home dad
"Our special guest is Sam. Query SAM is a thirty two year old ranked number forty five in the world who just welcomed his first child a baby boy in February with his wife. Abby Dixon he tells us what it's like to jump from full-time tennis pro two fulltime Dad. As a member of the council he has a lot of insight into all the decision. Making that's been happening regarding the schedules in twenty twenty. And he also laments the loss of Wimbledon as someone that has reached the semi-finals there in two thousand seventeen and the quarter finals twice. He's GonNa Miss The all England club a lot this year but you still has world team tennis to look forward to something that he prioritizes each year. He tells us why. So here's our episode with Sam Querying All Right Sam. Welcome to the PODCAST. Thanks for joining us today. For having me. Let's kick off with number one question these days. How is this quarantine treating you? And what is life like in the Query Household You know it's the quarantines brutal like everyone else I mean. I know people have bigger problems when I got here at home but It's tough not playing tennis. Not Outside I feel bad for the rest of the US and the rest of the world so hopefully this all end in a in a few months and we can Flattened the curve as they say and as far as it goes for me and my wife and I have a five week old son at home. So we're keeping busy. You know up during the night or you know. Mostly her feen and You Know Swat on him gone on some neighborhood walk so he's keeping US busy. So that's the No the one good part for this is that I get to be home with my little newborn son where Norway to normal tennis schedule. I probably would have missed a handful of these first few months. Yeah your son was born from what I can tell February nineteenth. That is a very very newborn baby. You were not expecting to become a full-time father so quickly. Were you know we were? Actually you know we. We were down in the Indian Wells Tournament. We drove down my wife. My mother-in-law father-in-law. My parents were down there. The tournament got cancelled and and You know we. We drove back home. And then you know we've been home ever since I was planning on. Go to Miami. I'm going to Miami and Houston and kind of getting a little break. I guess you would call it away from waking up early and waking up during the evenings to help out but You know now I'm just at home during the full-time fulltime dad thing or as much as I can't do that you know the man doesn't. I don't offer that much to the child. At this point it is joined the whole thing. I mean this is your first child. It's very exciting. I mean tell us more about Ford. Where where'd you get that name from? Actually it's a very unique name. Yes it's a family named for my wife side. It's her grandmother's name. And so it Kinda popped up popped up in our heads a few months before he was born and we we both really liked it. And so we We stuck with it and so far. Being a dad is great. I've really looking forward to having kids for a while and so's my wife and so you know this process. It's definitely challenging. Like anyone would say with the you know trying to keep them happy and basically you know you need your undivided attention between one of us. Twenty four seven but it's really fulfilling and really fun and he. He slowly getting to the point where he's kind of having some little expressions on his face and smiles every now and then you can tell starting to look at you a little more We also have a one year old chocolate labs or trying to get the two of them to get along which is a little tricky right now but a hopefully they'll become friends and a couple of years. Technically you have two babies at home. Pretty much Yes exactly the dog obviously has more energy than any animal. I've ever seen in my life and then the baby Kinda sleeps all day. So they're they're kind of on opposite schedules which is funny but you know definitely adds a little twist things when you've got the one year old puppy to deal with as well of the positives that. I'm sure that you can see. Is that by having puppy? That is a chocolate lab and super energetic. Probably have a lot of time to go and exercise with him. Exactly we're going You know like a lot of the neighborhood where we live. I mean it when we we've gone on to three or four walks day and you see a bunch of kids their bikes out on skateboards and everyone kind of is leaving the house at some point or other during the day trying to get some exercise of course keeping away from each other. But it's a very active neighborhood right now. We've seen a lot of players finding creative ways to stay fit and even trying to maybe have Iraq in their hands and even hitting on little home tennis courts. Did you have a court? You can hit on nearby. That's safe so to speak or are you keeping the tennis spirit alive. Yes no I mean in Los Angeles. We're right now. There's a handful of people that have private tennis courts around. I didn't hit this last week. I'm not hitting this week but to pay on how long this kind of warranty lasts. I am going to have to find a court at some point and get some reps in so There's a couple of people I know that. Have accorded their house. I can open with a coach. Keep it to two or three people and and probably kind of get some reps in some tiny houses on my and things like that and then hopefully when things are are lifted and we have a little more freedom to walk around You know I can get back some more. A kind of Richmond in practice of some of the other pros. Do you WANNA get back. Start playing again. But you don't really have a reason to just yet so speaking of recording this a little bit ahead of the official news but it looks like Wimbledon. It's going to be cancelled. And you are someone that has absolutely thrived at the All England Club. You've made the semi-finals their quarterfinals. Twice a move like that. Are you shocked by having the Grassi's in now go yeah? I'm I'm really bombed? I saw it coming. I think everyone saw him coming You know we've got to get this virus under control but not only just because it's Wimbledon but every time it gets cancelled. It's it's such a huge bummer and You know like you said it's hard to start practicing because we don't know the start date of when we're gonNA play so it's not a let me answer a lot of players are now. You're not overly motivated to get in the gym and get on the Court. Because hey is are we gonNA play again in three months and six months in twelve months? So it's tough to time it so just got to kind of do your best to stay active and and hit when you can and and then once the You know once we know what's going on and we know. Hey we're GONNA start playing tennis October. I really for a player like me and I think most buyers if you have four to six weeks to prepare and practicing tim you can be back to your your high end playing level relatively soon exactly. I think that's that's a pretty good way to look at it but again I mean I'm still pretty stuck on this thing. You made the quarterfinals there last year. And now you know that the rankings are at this point frozen. Is it a massive relief thinking that you don't have to defend that no? I mean I'd rather I look. I'd rather I'd rather go play lose first round lose all the points and just be able to play Wimbledon to to miss. It is is worse than than worrying about defending points. I mean I know some people might be worried about that but for me. I'm not worried about defending points. I'd rather go out and lose. First Round of the next fifteen tournaments. I play but at least have the chance to play so I guess we're not exactly sure on the tour what we're doing the ranking jet as of now. They're frozen wants to get going again. We'RE GONNA determine how they're going to you know how points drop off how they're going to or how they're gonna go about doing the ranking system. So like I said I. I'm not worried about the points coming off and I would rather just play the council meetings. I mean it's it's hard to have everybody's opinions and different people shouting at different things at different ways on how to keep the points how to defend the points how to restructure the ranking system. Pretty much by the time we come back. Were you on the end of wanting to keep the freeze or were you against the freeze? Or what are your thoughts on the whole process on figuring out the ranking system? Yeah I'm for the freeze in. I'm on I'm on the player council assignment although the phone calls and things and there's so many different options in scenarios and we're trying to narrow down to the best one and the only thing that I can really say for sure is whatever solution we come to. It's not gonNa work for everyone. There's GonNa be people that benefit from it and people that don't benefit from it. So that's what makes this difficult as well as there's not going to be a perfect solution and that that's what tennis all sports all things alive. There's not going to be a perfect solution that fits everyone so everyone has to be somewhat flexible with whatever the decision is that the council sort the tour decides when it comes to the
Wimbledon canceled for the first time since World War Two
"K. and some big events being cancelled because a corona virus yeah well it's not surprising as sporting events continue you canceled it's still a bummer this time we hop across the pond we found out yesterday morning that Wimbledon will be canceled for the first time since World War two it was set to take place June twenty ninth through July twelfth and then a couple days later the British open also being canceled for the first time since World War two that was going to be held about three hours east of London in a town called sandwich England at royal St George's July sixteenth July
Wimbledon canceled for 1st time since World War II because of coronavirus pandemic
"Yeah the coronavirus continuing to wreak havoc with the schedule in the sports world per gallon the latest to fall by the wayside as you just mentioned Wimbledon as officials with the all England lawn tennis club announced the cancellation of this year's event in a release that was sent out earlier this morning it's the first time in seventy five years that Wimbledon has been canceled the previous reason World War
Courtsiding with Brad Hutchins
"Welcome to no challenges remaining. I've been Rothenberg delighted to be joined by a friend on the opposite side of the world. Me In this episode Brad Hutchinson. Who is the author of the Book Game? Set Cash Previously worked in tennis. No longer does is currently a teacher who just came back from surfing on the Gold Coast in Queens so much as like a delightfully outdoor. Wonderful escape all of us are indoors. Nowhere near Surf. Mostly but Brad hope you're doing well and enjoying the weird time in the world especially can't be right now. Yeah absolutely pretty fortunate to be able to still get outside when a lot of people Locked in say how long lost four. I'm just trying to make the most of it will have. The opportunity is doing as during the tennis tour. Hiatus for doing stuff on different tenants and books and your book was one of the ones. I most enjoyed that read in the last few years. Game set cash and it all centers around the job used to have in Tennessee in Tennessee around tennis. At least I guess. Can you tell a story and get into the details of this? Moore's we go along but of how you I sort of founded employment opportunity with Tennyson with that with that presented itself as hey I heard about it. Yeah thanks man So I I heard about it when I was living in share house in London. This is tat over ten years ago. Now and one of the goals are linked with would always disappear and I didn't know where he was going. He's off to China or Russia. Row over these flung destinations and I knew that he had a job working at tennis. But I didn't really know what it was. It took a wall of probing to where he was back from his trips to to cigarette what he did and a real author while he was a cold solder and He was. He was flying around the world to these matches and report. The school was back to a group that he was working with the syndicate. Who would gamble on the tennis And a mad enough for profit out of it to be able to afford to send him around the world so you could sit courtside and have tickets to the tennis to all of the matches and and do that so a condos tested him to to get on board after all. Because I like the idea of getting paid to travel and Yeah it took. It took a couple of years for that to actually eventuate A few of my other friends who were in the Shea House kind of got involved as well and I went. I lived in Canada for wall and did some more traveling and then finally off it was. It was lucky Tommy just as I return high for a few years of travel. I got an email saying okay. You'RE UP WE'VE We've got a position in any modern for it so sin three resume Which is funny because I actually did have to do that. For a pretty informal job but Yeah they they got me on board. And then I worked as a cold solder for about two years Fulltime the tour is going around the world to different matches and they had the Tom Malakhov. Let let's pause there. Would you were sort of pestering. You're this. This has made ears for information on his job. What did he do? What did because I'm guessing? You had not heard of court citing before you talked to him so was it. How did he explain this occupation of his? And did it make sense? See right away. It didn't make sense to May straightaway at all. Because I wasn't much of a gambler. I love tennis but I didn't really have. Industry existed which is kind of what prompted me to write the book at the end of the role because not many do So he would bring home. These old looking finds that that they could be programmed differently. And this is back when you know I think the first couple of offense to just come out but not many people use them. So Abe was using these Kind of knock is and programming up and would have a program on the way you could transmit the school as if you had a school board on your fine so he would love. The schools from the stands sitting there watching the match That would go back. It would be linked up with the database in the UK. Go Straight back there and that would would get fade into the system and then it would be better pawn To build a physician and generally speaking people who are doing that are using bits as their website of choice. Bet they can back in light pleasant tron build a position and stay. Do better the correct Tom they can. They can put themselves in a win win situation which is ideal or they can go on. So you think is GonNa come through so Gradually kind of started to learn about this strategy. Involved in it the technology involved and the very con of Funny Little Game of cat-and-mouse that was involved as trying to avoid security and get away with doing it so just stop again there. So he's basically sitting courtside or sits in a tennis stadium. Radha tennis court somewhere at a pro tennis match usually on the main tour at a grand slam or sometimes the challenge against and will hit a button on their phone after every point to transmit the score somewhere else to usually to someone working at a computer at central office central location in that person than updates an algorithm which usually which which then informs how bets are placed and the Benny Market Bet Fair which is not like attritional bookie. But it's more I don't need to get. That fair is confusing. People who understand gamble too much. I don't WanNa get too deep into bet fair but that fairy as sort of a gambling market where people buy shares bet against each other. Yeah Yeah it's not your traditional kind of the House always wins situation. It's it's people betting against each other You know so they wanNA take a certain point in the match and someone else's put those odds up then they can Which allows for a lot more opportunity? And there's a mock there with a lot of liquidity lot of money moving and it's used by people around the world so it's become the main kind of area for people to who according t to us And Yeah We. We kind of did that. We had an algorithm lucky mentioned And that would that would automatically night decisions about how the bits replaced. So that's Pretty advanced Maths involved in that sort of things. I didn't get into that too much with developing it but I would buy feed the schools into the phone and it would fade into the algorithm and then the rest would get done at the back end so to speak where everything's processed yes Brought a big article about court citing featured you in a couple of years for racket and referred to it as like a really through adventurous data. Entry job basically. You're just sort of sitting. There added tennis courts somewhere in the world and I was in Brisbane. Is that right through your home. Tournament was your yes. My hometown was born. Brisbane said out was quite fitting. Yes so so. You're just sitting there. Just sort of talk through your day is of course setter. So you're just you get told what matches go to and you sit there and you just push a button. Every time a finishes is it that simple. We'd see the schedule of play. We'd pick which matches guy so usually there would be a few of us at each tournament and Wade Spread the matches between us. And then you head to court get ready. Sit Down if you want to say you're going to go to the baseline behind the plays so you can see you. Got The best view of where the ball's going You kind of have to plan ahead. Dykes half the time. You're sitting in the sun so you you got to wear sunscreen. GotTa Half Sunscreen in your bag. Go to have some food and water with you. Got To be prepared to just sit on courts. Have Long that much goes for you. Know if you're a grand slam that could be six hours so Yeah you kind of just get a good seat. Strap in and the you know you've got to be kind to people around you and chat to them if they're friendly but at the same time focus on what's going on in front of you and try and stay focus for the duration of that whole match even when there's breaks because if a player gets injured all goes off to see the training you have to be on top of that because pivotal right so the match swings in the bedding so is it fun. Is it easy is boring. I mean what does it like? Having to sort of push a button after every point and they're even even in a long match. It's it's hundreds of times a three-set matches probably I don't know roughly. Roughly two hundred points can be. Yep So if you've got a you know it can be mundane. You can have juice. The goes back and forth forever. There'd be set in place that would really bully. And there's other players that a scintillating to watch and that would really get sucked into it but at the same time you have to detach from just being spectator And actually do your job as well. So it's it's go mixture of everything you know. It can be super exciting if you're doing your best of three sets tiebreaker. You're on the edge of your seat every point and you have to be on top of that because it's it's really big money that's swinging big wise each on so you really have to be into it and then you can also have those moments in the day where you're just bored out of your Bryan. You've watched a million points of tennis in the last few days and is sick of it but you're also in a different country. Usually he's got a group of friends around that you can look forward to going travelling and kind of start seeing light of day and the. There's a lot going on so all in all it was a a really exciting kind of lost all but You know Lucky said at the end of the diets daughter. Intrigue Job and that's essentially the seating they clicking buttons and we used to call ourselves the monkeys on the button. Sometimes Joklik a monkey could do job but at the same time. There's there's more to it you have to really be on top of it