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Vesey, Goodrow lead Rangers to 3-1 win over Senators
"Ryan lindgren set up each rangers goal in a three one downing of the senators. Jimmy vesey opened the scoring midway through the first period. Barclay goudreau doubled the blue shirts lead midway through the second and Chris kreider provided the insurance tally with 7 O one remaining. Yaroslav halak stopped 34 shots in helping the rangers into three game skid. Until Shane Pinto, tally late in the second period. New York improved to 11 9 and four, the Sens ended a two game winning streak and fell to 8 13 and one. I'm Dave ferry.
Sabres withstand Red Wings' rally, win 5-4 in shootout
"Dylan cousin scores a pair of goals to help the Sabres edge the red wings 5 to four in a shootout cousins open buffalo scoring with a shorthanded goal in the first period and help the Sabres extend their recent run of good play going three one and one in their last 5 games after dropping their previous 8 games and regulation. It's big for us to kind of put those games behind us and win some hockey games so that's something we need to keep doing here and not fall down into that streak again. Sabres forward Jack Quinn notched the winner scoring the only goal of the shootout. The red wings rallied from a four one deficit in the third to send it to overtime and earned at least a point for the 6th time in their last 7 games. Denny cap Detroit
A highlight from Tape Study of Crosby, Robertson, and How to Break Out in 2022
"Welcome to hockey PDO cast. My name is maitre bell povich and joining me is my buddy Jesse Marshall Jesse. What's going on, man? Not much but it's good to be good to be back on the show with you. Oh, well, I'm glad I'm glad I could finally have you on. I figured it might be tough to top the book you after you were deservedly highlighted as a must follow Twitter account on the athletics list this week. So the last one on the list. I don't think it goes in order. I don't think it was into order of entertainment value, though. No, I hope not because they say they weren't certainly weren't saving the best for last. That was really great. I was happy to see that. This year has been a unique in the sense that I've been doing some work for some other outlets and it's allowed me to write about things that aren't just specific to Pittsburgh, so it's kind of cool to get some shout outs for that. Yeah, I love your videos, man. So I'm happy to have you see you get the love. It's a much deserved, as I said. And I'm excited to do this show with you. So we've got a couple topics. That we've planned. That I'm sure we're going to have a good time really sinking our teeth into and having fun with. So let's start with one near and dear to both our hearts. I think yours may be a bit more so than mine, but Sidney Crosby. Who is having one heck of a season. And it really feels like for hockey fans, I feel like it's been such a rewarding season so far because we're seeing what cine Crosby, Patrice bergeron, Eric Carlson, like all these guys who are great in their 30s, still not only being effective, but doing it in a way that's kind of held true to form. For their entire careers, right? They've obviously made adjustments and tinkered here and they're an added new stuff to their game. But for the most part, these guys are just like still dominating the league into their 30s in ways that is true to their skill set and what they've been doing for so long now. Yeah. Father time, I've set out Twitter a couple of times to meet you losing the wrestling mattress Sydney Crosby badly where just a couple rounds in and he's beating the living hell out of father town. It's a couple things for me. So I think on one hand, the elements that have always made him and you and I have both agreed about this. And you've made many a Montage of this. He's one of the best grinders this game has ever seen, right? And he's got that low center of gravity, strong thighs, you know, I remember him taking Jason spezza for a run right around the net for a minute and 30 seconds years ago back in that cup run. That element his game's still there. And he's still very, very difficult to handle in the battle area is still very difficult to handle down low. But he's also got this now, I call it the lemieux post retirement lemieux thing going on where, you know, he's not dominating the game physically like he used to. He's not in, you know, going up ice and cutting through four defenders, you know, for these highlight real goals, like he was 18, 19, 20 years old. What he's doing now is playing chess against everybody else's checkers. No look back handers, you know, tape tape to Jake gensel. Slowing the game down and manipulating skaters and drawing attention to him so he can get to the teammates open and he's your 5 E 5 points leader going into December. That's crazy, you know, for him being at 35. It's just nuts to think about. And you know, you have the marriage with gensel, which I'm sure we'll talk about, but it's been really good. But then you've got this record Raquel thing now, too, Dimitri was like, a lot of people would tell you that prior against those arrival, Chris kunitz was Crosby's greatest partner, right? They made music together for years and Ricard Raquel is just so much of a Chris kunitz. They are so much of the same player and that the fruit of his presence has been so good for gentle Crosby is opened up space for them. And you've sort of seen this new evolution of that old kunits partnership that said, I think giving them a little bit more life, so he's healthy, wrist issues behind him. And I'm looking forward to what he could do with a full year. Hopefully knock on wood Wright with a health pending, but everything seems right now to be as it's been for years. I mean, it's status quo. The song and dance continues. Well, in preparation for this discussion, I went back and watched all of his shot attempts so far this season and then you look at his shot map on Michael's website and I think you can count on your two hands, the number of times he's like attempted a shot from above the dots basically at 5 one 5 in the office zone. We joke that he's like the game's best grinder. He's like almost like the game's best low post player. I was like a basketball analogy, right?
Bruins extend NHL-record season-opening home win streak
"The Boston Berwyn added to their NHL record of home wins to start a season. Now 13 straight with a three one victory over the Tampa Bay lightning. Taylor hall started the scoring for the bruins just one minute and 7 seconds into the game were the first of his two goals. The lightning tied it at one in the second on a power play goal by Steven stamkos. It was his 999th career point. In the third, the bruins took the lead for good, two 49 into the period on all second goal of the game, a power play goal. And then with 41 seconds left in regulation, Brad marchand added an empty net goal for the bruins. Greg kede, Boston.
A highlight from What does the future hold for San Jose? Erik Karlsson? Timo Meier?
"La povich, enjoyed Amy on today's episode as my buddy Shang pang Shang, what's going on, man? Oh, pretty good, pretty good. Yeah, I just got into a Montreal yesterday. I thinking about the bagels and the smoke meat. I'm going to get some today after morning skate. Oh, nice, label Provence. Have you had, are you going to get some protein as well? I actually had it last night. Hating all the cliches. There you go. You're a hockey journalist pro. You've been on the road a few times. All right, man. Well, this is exciting. We're going to do a San Jose sharks deep dive. Through the lens, especially of the individual season aircraft that's happening because I think it's something that a lot of fans even beyond sharks fans have been captivated by so far because it's been such a thrilling experience to see him putting up the point totals that we've kind of become accustomed to during his prime and kind of looking like that vintage version of himself so far this season. So I'm excited to just unpack that performance with you and deep dive kind of how he's been able to do it, what he's been doing because you've been covering this team as closely as anyone so far this season and I don't know I'm kind of curious for your thoughts on whether it's overblown, how much he looks like his prime self because I think last year he didn't have the point totals, but if you look at a lot of the underlying metrics, they were not too far off from the way he's driving off and so far this season. The puck was just going into the net less frequently for himself and his teammates. But he clearly, I feel like to me to my eye at least looks like his old old self again. Yeah, no, I don't think it's overblown at all. Eric's been terrific this year. Though, I will add, and you mentioned that last year, he actually was very, very good too, especially in the beginning of the season. Before he had his forearm surgery, you can January. He had 26 points in the first 33 games of the season. So again, not quite what he's doing right now, but those are pretty good. Those are error crossing numbers too. And when he came back from his surgery, I think that the team was far out of the playoffs. I think his engagement can wax and Wayne with what the team is. And so I think that's part of what happened at the end there. But he was quite good last year or two. Yeah, I mean, yeah, a lot of the I had my apology a fresh on last week and he made this point of a lot of the offensive metrics last year. If you look at them, what they were generating in terms of shots, chances expected goals were pretty in line with so far this season. Now, 12% of the team shots are going in when he's on the ice and I think 15 or 16% of his own shots are going in, so that'll certainly make someone look better and pad the point totals, but I mean, listen, he's currently on an 82 game pace of 38 goals and 72 cysts. His 25 one 5 points are tied for the league lead with Sidney Crosby. It's remarkable what he's doing. I think you made a great note of this in a recent sort of piece you wrote about how you watch Eric Carlson and how analytics have helped you appreciate kind of what he's doing. I think what you're seeing that looks much more like primary Carlson is how aggressively involved he is in the offensive zone, where especially from his own shot attempts, which isn't something necessarily that we talk about glowingly for defenseman because for most events, it's kind of a suboptimal point shot. You generally want to get it to your forwards, deeper in the zone. Carlson himself has been so involved in terms of his own shot volume and that looks much more like the prime version of himself after a few down years, the past couple of years. Yeah, absolutely. I think what Eric's too, you know, Eric is smart in terms of a lot of his shots are as counted as shot attempts are shot passes and you can see that. He's often looking for that stick that's kind of there in front of the net looking for that deflection. And so I think that's what kind of pads the totals too. And it's a good mark of just sort of his dominance. Yeah, well, there was an interesting nugget that I found where in his past 15 games this season he's top ten plus shots in 5 of those. And if you look back over the past three years prior to this one, he had done it 7 times in his previous 158 games.
A highlight from Bringing the Bratwurst at the Quarter-Mark of the NHL Season
"Spending time on landing and Emily and family and enjoying some hockey over there and I'm sure the buzz internationally World Cup of soccer and all of those good things. Yeah, they're not quite so pumped with the World Cup here right now as Germany struggling their way through their group and you've got to tell you that for those that have spent time in Europe they'll understand the pace of things here is just phenomenal. Sure, there are like Landon told me today we wrote walking through these Christmas markets that are in, I don't know, I couldn't even tell you how many different places in cologne and they're just awesome. There's Christmas music. People are walking around with this stuff, this wine drink, I'm trying to remember the name glu vine, and it's like a sugared wine, warm, and they just walk around. It's open carry, and nobody seems too bothered, right? They just go around and you can't walk 6 feet without walking by a pastry place. But he told me today is like, you've got your North American walk go on. He goes slow down. It's all we slowed down. I love it. So we're having a great time and come back Thursday and went to a game this week or went to two. He scored the second game, so they wanted to really, really fun. The Europeans watching experience as well as, I don't know. In my mind, it's far superior than to what we do in North America where we just sit and watch the game and we cheer when our team scores and all that, but I mean, singing enchanting and chanting against the other team's supporters and they chant back and the energy and the arena was so great. And so yeah, it's been really fun. So no different than any NHL building in North America. What would happen if the German league or the National Hockey League followed the lead by World Cup and just stopped selling beer? You can't have a beer at the match. Would there be a problem? The game would be shut down. So they sell these beers, these beers. And they come. They come in those little thin glasses. Okay. The problem is, it's like three steps in the glass. It's gone. And then you just go get another one. And it's like an endless supply. These guys are professionals, the Germans, by the way. So nothing to sit there, you know, between periods and you're like, no, we just had two more of those. Would you look at that? And you walk over there and you're like, oh, another one and oh, would you look at that? There's a bra. I don't know if I don't know if I'm eating my way to health over here, but those beer sales are they're critical to the infrastructure. Well, look, next trip to Germany. We're going to get catered or Patrick or somebody from Canadian club deep, deep descent you up with a kiosk, right? With a big sign, are you over beer? Have a big keg of CC in the mixed in a quiet try this. I think Drake, I think. I think it would go big. I don't think it's really, I don't think it's the actual type of beverage. No. You know, I don't think, you know, I think it would go well. I think it would go well. All right, headlines, once again this season, as you know, here in season four of the ray and Riggs podcast presented by our good buddies at Boston pizza. And we thought we'd do the core market that quarter Marcus assessment just because teams have passed the 20 game market. I think we'll kind of salt a little bit through that, but before we individualize teams and it's going to be hard not to do that right off the top of headlines here. I wanted a thought on two players who were just on an unbelievable run. And let's start with Jason Robertson and the Dallas stars Robertson now is 19 goals after last night a win over St. Louis. 16 game straight point streak. And marner scored a nice goal. You know, feed from Mark Giordano last night caught the Detroit red wings a bit flat footed. He's got 7 goals, but he's got points now in 17 straight, which is just shy of tying the record established by our good body Eddie O that he will check and Daryl settler. You know, to amass those runs, those streaks in any era is hard, right? But this isn't the 80s. We're in a new game. Yeah, it's not the 90s either. When you score twice a month, you know, it's like, but it is amazing. It honestly drapes, it's amazing because a, of course it signifies incredible consistency. It also, you have to be in the position to produce because there's a lot of those nights probably when both players haven't had their a game. You know, they probably their legs are a little heavy. They don't quite feel right, whatever it is. And they still create something, whether it's an assist or a goal. I mean, Robertson's leading point score in a month in November. I'll start with him for just a brief thing is that so I'm going through this and I got a Dallas game coming out. And so you know when we talk about draft and develop and we talk about that all the time. And the developed part is really the key. Once you draft them, then it's like, how long before those players become like stars or significant contributors in the 2017 draft? Just think of this. Dallas drafted third. They got mural haste in it. They drafted 26th as well. They got Jake and they drafted 39th and they got Jason Robertson. A forward, a D and a goalie in three picks in one draft. And that is the cornerstone of their team. It's amazing to me that that can all happen in this fan of probably what? 18 hours. By the time the draft goes, right? Because they got to wait overnight for the second round. Like amazing. And Robertson, I've used this before, but Rick bowness told me last year when I was asking about him, he said, be reminded of I asked him, who would I know Jason Robertson has? And he said, Luke robitaille. And he said, the puck comes to him, and when it comes to him, he knows how to finish. He just there's just something special about the way that he finishes. As for marner, he's so smart and he is, he's got like that tenacity that creates a lot of the chances for whoever he's out there with. And of course, once he gets, once he gets it, he's just a fabulous passer. And we've talked a little bit about Aaliyah's Patterson in Vancouver. He reminds me a little bit of Pavel datsyuk, the way that he gets the puck loses the pot gets it back. He's got the skill to check and all that. So what is marner? What is different from marner dod souk? There's not much. I mean, that's crazy. Man, that's who wouldn't have the puck? And then he'd get it back. Marner doesn't have the puck and he gets it back. He doesn't have to hit anybody. Got great stuff. He's a little weasel around the puck. And then he gets it and magic happens. And it's a remarkable month for both of those guys. It's amazing streaks. Well, I mean, in that saying a lot when you make that comparison because this isn't the first time on the podcast where you've recognized that Pavel datsyuk was one of your favorite players. Amazing players. Just amazing player. He was so fun to watch and he was also so incredibly unassuming. We saw him watch him walk into the rink and he looked like the equipment guy. You know, like he didn't look very athletic. He's really bullied and he had one foot to kind of tip down to the outside that then he'd get on the
Devils rally from two goals down to beat Rangers 5-3
"The Devils wiped out a two to zero first period deficit with foreign answered goals on their way to a 5 to three win over the rangers. The Devils of one 16 of their last 17 for coach Lindy ruff. A lot of energy in this building and it's a tough team to play against and to get the win here. We know that more division games are coming up. It's just going to continue to get tougher. The Devils went on top to stay early in the second period when Jack Hughes scored his 12th. Devil's now 19 and four, while the rangers have dropped three straight. Mike mancuso, New York
A highlight from A Ducks deep dive with Felix Sicard
"Welcome to the hockey PDO guest. My name is a Mitchell filippovich and joining me is my good buddy. I feel like cigarette Felix, what's going on? It's going well, demetria album. I'm glad to be here and talk about one of the most exciting teams in the NHL. Yes, the Anaheim ducks. We're doing the Anaheim ducks deep dive officially. I mean, I've got a lot of negative thoughts that probably that you're going to echo as well. And then we can unpack. I felt like let's start with the glass half full approach and focus on what I think has been one of the real bright lights in this otherwise leak dark cold environment that has been Anaheim dogs hockey, dating back to year, but especially picking up this year and sort of building on what he did last year, it's Troy Terry, who I think it was reasonable to be a bit surprised or taken aback. I think we point to tage Thompson as someone who kind of just burst onto the scene last year out of nowhere after a couple of NHL seasons of relatively underwhelming production and then he got that big contract we were wondering how he was going to follow it up and he certainly proving that he's the real deal this season. We don't talk about Terry as much in that regard, but in his first three seasons in the NHL, he played a 129 games. He had 15 goals, 48 points. And then he just breaks out last year, he scores 37 goals. He's got the 67 points. And so far this year, he's on pace for 34 goals, 86 points, all of the numbers have actually what I've seen improved his performance has certainly looks like the real deal. So let's talk a little bit about Troy Terry and kind of what makes him special and how he's been able to have this sort of career glow up at the age of 24. Yeah, I mean, it's a fascinating topic because I know that you've had the likes of Daryl belfry on your show, skills coaching. And I think really for him, he's always had that ability to carry the puck through the neutral zone, like the tracking data always showed that from Cory Schneider. And he was able to work it off the half wall and work it down low. But the last season, you really saw him completely change his approach when he's entering that offensive attacking the middle attacking defenders attacking that triangle, their stick and their skates. And just looking for his shot so much more and it's just like a fundamental shift in how he's approached the game and if you listen to Terry and akins and people around him talk, they talk about confidence. And his confidence in mindset shifting, I don't really, I mean, I'm sure he's more confident now that he scored 37 goals, but I think the confidence comes from, hey, I'm attacking constantly and creating chances for my team. So he always kind of had it in him, but now it's he's just taking it to a completely different level. Yeah, I mean, clearly what sticks out to him is just how crafty he is, right? Like when you see him as you're mentioning maneuvering through the neutral zone, the way he's able to make defenders uncomfortable by basically either utilizing that attacking triangle by either putting it under the stick or putting in their skates, you see it manifested in a number of different ways, right? One last year he was amongst the league leaders in penalties drawn. And he's followed that up again this year. And I think that's proven to be a real skill. And two, and this is an interesting departure where last year I felt like he was really catching people off guard by sort of doing that old Ovechkin move right where he comes down the wing and he uses a defender as a screen before ripping it through their legs and beating a goalie that way. And this year, I think he did it the one time recently against the rangers where he kind of did it to Andre Miller and he beat jarl halak with that move, but for the most part, he's been trying to do it and he just the puck hasn't been going in for him when he's been doing it. And I don't think it's pro lack of effort. I think the executions has been fine, not that the league is caught up to him by any means. I think that's kind of, you're going to have shooting percentage of variants when you're dealing with shots from further out, but he still found ways to produce offensively and create regardless. And so once those start going in more for him as well, I actually think it's reasonable to expect that he's going to start producing even more goals this season than he has already so far.
Pesce's 1st goal of season lifts Hurricanes past Flames 3-2
"The Carolina hurricane scored twice on the power play earning a three two win at home over the Calgary flames, snapping a 5 game losing streak. Forward Seth Jarvis said the hurricanes took advantage of their opportunities. Obviously we had a we had a few chances and I mean, it's nice to capitalize on them. Trailing two one of the second flames forward Tyler to fully tied the game with a breakaway goal passed hurricanes goalie auntie ransa. In the third, hurricanes defenseman Brett Pesci would break the tie with the power play goal. His first tally of the season. Dan vladar made 30 saves for the flames. Dennis Cox, Raleigh, North Carolina.
Oilers score 4 times in third period to defeat Rangers
"The Edmonton oil is wiped out a three to nothing deficit with four unanswered third period goals to beat the rangers four to three. Leon draisaitl on the power play scored the game winner with two O two remaining. We got to start winning some games consistently and do it the right way. So I thought that third period that we had was a great step. Dylan Holloway's first NHL goal tied it to three, Evan Bouchard scored Edmonton's first two goals in the four goal third period against rangers goalie Igor sherkin. Chris kreider did score his tenth for the rangers. Mike mancuso, New York
Point has 2 goals, assist in Lightning's 5-2 win over Blues
"The Tampa Bay lightning got right to the point scoring three early goals en route to a 5 two victory over the St. Louis blues. Brayden point scored a three 29 of the first period to put the lightning up one nothing, then after Alex killorn's goal scored again at 8 O four to make it three zero Tampa Bay. It's physical early. I think both teams were into it right away. It was nice to hear about the goals for us early. Pretty good jump on the game. I thought it was a fun game. Coyne also weighed in his system, Brandon Hegel's goal after the blues to close to within three two in the second period. Nicholas Paul scored the other Tampa Bay all as the blues lost for just the second time in 9 games. I'm time Miriam
Bruins set NHL record: 12 straight home wins to start season
"David pasternak scored the game winner for Boston with one 41 left in overtime as the bruins came from behind and defeated the Carolina hurricanes three two to remain undefeated at TD garden. Carolina started the scoring with two in the first, the second by just Perry Cote Kenneth, Boston scoring did not start until 30 seconds remaining in the second, when David krejci scored the first of his two goals. His second goal tied it with 9 33 left. It was initially ruled interference, but was overturned by a coach's challenge, with the win, the bruins said in NHL record with 12 straight wins at home to start a season. Great kedes, Boston
A highlight from The Weekly Friday Mailbag with Thomas Drance 2.0
"To the means since 2015. It's the hockey PDO cast with your host Dmitri filipovich. And joining me is my good buddy Thomas dance, Thomas, what's going on? Not much, bud. Been on the air for a long time, so you have just did your show Canucks talk before this as well. Tons of fun. Thanks for joining me on it. Always a blast. We're going to plug that more at the end, okay? That sounds good. So here's what we're going to do today. We're going to end the week with our Friday mailbag. Let's go on a couple of weeks ago with me, which always reviews. People love this. I've been getting people sending me unprompted mailbag questions throughout the week. It's great. So people who really seem to be enjoying the interactive element of it, if you want to get involved in future episodes, please do so, keep sending those questions in. Perfect way to end the week, slide into the weekend. You and I are hanging out here in studio. It's going to be fun. Let's get into it. Laughing. Here's our first question. Joseph holmgren asks, which retired players do you think we underestimated while they were playing based on the new stats we currently have available? Oh, I mean, I think there's an awful lot of guys that you could pick here. Okay, here's my prediction. You're going to pick someone incredibly niche that I've never thought of in the past 20 years. I'm going to pick someone who's actually a star player that people will have heard of before. I mean, I think there's a lot of guys who you can make this case for. So for me, one of the first guys that always comes to mind when I think about this specific question and it's a question that I think about a lot. It's Stefan robot. Yes. Because Stephan robar was like a 5 ten In an era where that didn't exist. So what does that mean? It means that robot was undrafted. Despite being like 80 points in 40 games in this last huge MJ HL season, right? Today he would have been drafted probably in the first two rounds, right? And it doesn't really make his NHL debut until like 24, right? Now he'd be in the NHL at 21. So he loses probably in an extra 250 games, probably an extra contract. Then he is effective from Montreal for his first two seasons. And if you go look at it, he has a season in Montreal, where he's like -28 or whatever. And if you go look, Montreal had like really bad goaltending. Stephan robot I was -28. He's an undersized defenseman. What do you think Montreal blamed? So he's sort of cast aside out of Montreal. You know it's just a PDO bender season. Anyway, ends up establishing himself in Dallas. He only really earns like one big contract, his whole life, and it's the one that he signed at the end of his career right after he sustained that devastating leg injury late in the year. And then they named an island after him. But he was just steady, reliable, drove play transitional defensive defenseman. Now, we'd appreciate him as like the stud top pair, frankly, like Norris caliber. You know what he was, he was Jacob slavin. Yeah. He was Jacob slavin for 6 years and no one cared. And now people would. Well, I don't really remember all that. Did he play the way his slave and blaze? Well, shorter. But yes, I mean, he was like physical, 8 shots, 8 pucks. Yeah. Ace penalty killer. And then once he like verges into the era where we have modern numbers, he was an absolute stud. But he plays a large proportion of his career before that, where we had no way of evaluating it. His career would have been completely different. If he was born in 1987 as opposed to 1977. Yes, okay. I really like that answer. Do you want to get mine? Sure. I have two. Sorry, I also have more. So why don't you go on? One of my objectives heading into the show was let's try to get through as many questions as we can because last time we started with a question about the gold drafting system. And then 30 minutes in, we're like, all right, question number two. Fair enough. This one's cheating because I think this player is appreciated, but I would argue, and I'm going to put together a hopefully compelling case that he's not appreciated enough. Paddle datsyuk. Who one three selkies? One, two Stanley cops. Playing for the red wings had the four lady bangs if that's a thing you care about. I believe his only time registering an MVP voting was in the O 8 O 9 season when he finished third behind Alex Ovechkin in afghani mall in that year. I often post clips of Pavel datsyuk doing really cool stuff. And I think there's a nostalgia element where people are like, oh yeah, like I missed this guy so much. And it's like usually red wings fans because they got to see him every night. And then there's like, every time there's a few people who are like, how did this guy only score 32 goals? Is his career high? Like he never had a crazy ballooned offensive season. He had 97 points twice, I believe, but he never got to a hundred points, 32 goals. Obviously it was a different NHL, like in those mid to late 2000s. Totally. What I would say is, if you look at the few years we have of him on natural statute we're evolving hockey, his underlying numbers are genuinely not of this world. No, I know. His impacts at 5 on 5 were just incomparable. He was legitimately probably the best player in the NHL. I don't even think. I don't think he was really regarded that way. No, right? Because there'd be flashier players who would score more goals, got more points and they get Crosby Ovechkin. Right. He was kind of considered like a piece of the engine of that red wings team that was dominant and he was like a playoff performer, but he was never considered as the most dominant two way force that we have in the game, which he really was.
A highlight from Flying Objects in Jersey, Canucks Statement Win, and the Loss of a Maple Leafs Legend
"Competitor. And of course, if your days of playing in one because that basically put it in a package, the type of dynamic, but yet just fiercely competitor individually was. Well, it does. And I would add that there was no where or game or place that his presence wasn't bigger than himself. And it's not so much that he was trying to drag attention. That wasn't it. He just did. He just like, there was something magnetic about his personality. And then the way he played in the way that he, like literally fought for his space here in North America. And as much as we can talk about it, I look at the way the Swedish players looked up and look up and talk about the legend that borea built in his career and his life, not just as hockey career, but his life as well. I mean, it was heartbreaking to watch. With the all star weekend and I'm glad he and his family were able to see how much he was literally loved and adored and respected and it was sad news to see it come across. Yeah. I mean, rest in peace, boria, and in a weird way from the Hall of Fame weekend forward here. I look forward to the outpouring of the tributes and we'll do our best here on The Rain rigs, hockey podcast, social media threads that we have to present as much of that as we can. TSN TSN dot CA will have that as well. So tough day in the hockey community with the passing arborio Solomon. To move on to the rest of the league, ray will do it in the headlines. Again, this year presented by our good pals at Boston pizza. Speaking of moria, the Toronto Maple Leafs playing good hockey right now. Yeah, they're dealing with adversity with the loss of Morgan rielly and the injury bug is taking its toll on the leafs, but they come together against the New Jersey Devils in what was a weird, weird game. You probably didn't get to see a ton of it because you were traveling, but double streak has stopped at 13 and I say weird because anybody watched it, there were three disallowed goals. Two of her goalie interference, one because Erika directed the puck into the net with his skate. That had devil's fans absolutely fuming. His amusing until they start throwing stuff on the ice and it's hitting players and it becomes a dangerous environment. I mean, we haven't seen that in a long time. Here's hoping we don't see it ever again in the National Hockey League, but just one of those kind of combustible situations. Yeah, it's a real scary place when things start flying out of the stands and you're on the ice. There's just, there's no where to go. You can't see where anything's coming from. When I was playing in Portland in the western Hockey League, we played in the old building in Seattle, which was an absolute zoo. It had chicken wire fence. Instead of glass, so the fans, like you'd be standing there, the fans would literally throw beer through the fencing onto you as your stance. There was stuff flying on the ice all over the place. And you just, you just never felt safe in there. Gets out of hand to become the mob mentality, and it's dangerous. You could throw anything on the ice and the potential for danger is there, right? Like it doesn't have to be something hard. It could be almost anything if somebody steps on it. If they don't clean it up, you know, or get it all off the ice, it becomes a danger. Greg, we played a game I was with Hartford and we were in Quebec and Carrie frazer was officiating. And he called a bunch of penalties and late in the third period on the nordiques and I don't know what the hell they did, but I think they opened up a supply closet. There were literally hundreds of rolls of toilet paper thrown on the ice and it would hit and then on travel. And so we're watching it. We're like, what the hell is going on? And so they eventually just canceled the game. I think with just less than a minute left. What's happening yesterday? That's dangerous. It's stupid. Because the potential for injury is there. Well, it forces the National Hockey League to do something knee jerk, right? I mean, you talk with your security people, you find out, okay, did we do enough? And I think the answer is yes. I mean, you can only stop it to a point, but the league pro sport in general does good things when it comes to incidents like this, because they have internal conversations, and they strategize, and they try and figure out ways to prevent it from happening again. So we'll see if there's any form of aftermath. A couple of small trades they want your opinion on because small trades don't always end up being small trades. The Toronto Maple Leafs acquire Connor Timmons from Arizona, no shock given the history of Timmons, right? A former Sioux Greyhound so that's right on there on the list of criteria that Kyle dubas holds near and dear to his heart. Given an opportunity, I don't know if you've seen enough of Connor Timmons at the NHL level. To ascertain what he's going to be, but I did a bit of reading today and some who know him well dating back to the OHL days talk about how good a defenseman he potentially will be terrific in exiting the puck out of his own zone, all of that. What's the risk, right? When you're giving up a piece that isn't going to fit into your plan moving forward. Now, I haven't seen Tim's play at the NHL level. He's had concussion issues that have plagued him throughout his career. When he was on the world junior team, he was really good. Like he was a well thought after prospect. I think second round pick by Colorado, out of the draft, and then he just never got on track. And so he's kind of lost his way through really no fault of his own just through injury. I don't mind this trade at all. I mean, if you're looking that maybe maybe there's lightning here, like maybe you get a player that can play. It's not like he's never played in the NHL before. He just hasn't stayed healthy enough to build any kind of resume to see what he would be like at this level. I was trying to think today. In the mid 80s, the least drafted every first round pick out of belleville, I think. It was one think you're right. I think you're right. And it's like, is that where the whole scouting department was or did they just live in belleville or like what the hell was going on there? Saint Marie Greyhound float around that chances are he's ending up in Toronto. So I hope for Tim and sake. That he can get his feet under him. I mean, he's had a real hard work. To really no fault of his own. Right, and leafs fans shouldn't be confused by this. I mean, he's a depth ad. If he places way into a higher role, then good for Connor Timmons and good for the Maple Leafs been Kyle dubas is still going to continue to the work from the market. He needs some more significant upgrade. Well, in the other thing, Drake's story Drake's just a touch one thing. Aside from cap issues, which are the same for almost everybody, is there at 50 contracts. So they're in a tough spot in Toronto. They play her in player has to go. Aside from the money, player has to go up because you're only allowed 50 contracts. So the challenges are great right now for them. A friend of the podcast Billy garen swinging a deal acquiring some size, some personality, obvious toughness and Ryan Reeves from the New York rangers Reeves going to the Minnesota wild and I'm always amused by the opinion and the aftermath of a deal like this, right? Some who are quick to jump out and say, oh, jeez, well, why didn't our team get in on that? A 5th round wrath pick are you kidding me? Like, you know, this team could have used Ryan Reeves, this team could have used crime Reeves, and then you've got the others that say jeez, I'm surprised they even got a 5th forum. I mean, the word was the rangers were going to put him on waivers in a week. We don't know any of them. But what we know is that Billy garin is history with Ryan Reeves and obviously likes of what he's going to bring to the wild that makes it a worthwhile experiment. Well, yes, I mean, so you got to remember like last year when the wild took that big leap. One of the things they were was a great strength that theirs was, they were really hard to play against. They were physical, they had a forge line while they had that third line
A highlight from Fantasy Hockey and Players to Target
"Welcome to the hockey PDO cast. My name is neutrophil povich and joining me is my good buddy Chris mini Chris, what's going on man? Hey, what's going on Dmitri? Happy to be here, man. You know, it's an exciting time of the season for the NHL and Thanksgiving in the states. It's a good, I think, sample size that we have to break down some players and some teams and maybe take a look at some outliers. It is. We've got about 20 games or so for most teams, which is a nice little cutoff here for us to try to make sense of the sample sizes we've got. So the plan today, we're going to hopefully provide the listeners with some actionable information for their hockey pools. Players to target situations to buy on, kind of stuff to be wary of, all that good stuff. So hopefully those of you listening to do plan a hockey pool, you're going to get a little bit of an edge here and maybe we'll even help you identify some shining new toys that you can go and grab in your pool and then brag to your league mates about how smart you are. And then of course, let them know where you found out that information so they come and listen to the show as well. So Chris, as the guest, I'll give you the floor here. You can take this any number of directions you want. Give me a name, give me a team. Give me something that you're really keying in on these days for what you want to target. Well, I'm going to give you, I think, just maybe the biggest buy located in fantasy hockey right now. And it's, in my opinion, Kyle Connor. When I take a look at Kyle Connor is a proven goal scorer and these are questions that I'm getting lately from some fancy hockey players. What I do with Connor, I thought he was going to score 40. I mean, he's been flirting with 40 the past couple years what's happening with Kyle Connors. Is there anything different in his game this year compared to last year? And I don't see a whole lot demetri. I mean, this season and take a look at his 5 and 5 numbers according to natural stature. He's 7th and expected goals at 5 and 5, but he only has three goals. He's shooting 7%. He's 5th in scoring chances last year. He was top 20 and expected goals. He had 28 goals he shot 14%. I know a lot of his production over the past couple of years have come on that power play. But this is still a guy that when I look at the scoring chances and the high danger chances he checks a lot of the boxes for me. So when I take a look at the elite scores in the NHL and who is not putting the puck in the net, it's kind of Kyle Connor. And I think the window is closing. Like he's starting to fill the net lately. You're starting to see some of those pucks go in. So I just feel like now is the opportunity to go and get this guy if you're looking for a big buy low. Yeah, yeah, this is our prototypical or classic bio. Where you look under the hood and you look at all of the rates that and all of his shot metrics look identical, in fact, he's generating significantly more hiding your chances than he used to. We know he's a proven goal scorer, really, it seems like the only thing that dragging him down right now is that shooting percentage. And so that's where you want to capitalize on the track record and expecting him to bounce back. He's been one of those players historically where you're looking at is shooting percentages year over year since he became a regular and then a gel. He's 16.2, 15, 15.9, 15.7, 14.8 last year. He's under 9 right now. He's proven year over year that he's not only an above average, but an elite finisher in terms of efficiency and he's got the shot rate as well, so it seems like a no brainer that the goals will come. I guess the only potential concern is when there's a coaching change like this and we know Rick bonus generally has had a bit of an offensive drag on his players in terms of the system they play and kind of the pace they play at. But it's not like it was an ideal situation for the jets last year by any means in terms of the way they were playing a call Connor still feasted there. And we've seen that top line of Jason Roberts and rupe hints and Joe pavelski thrive under brick bonus as well. So it's not much of a concern for me. I guess that would be the only kind of like what's different this year, but in terms of the numbers, it seems like nothing's popping up. Yeah, exactly. Nikolai's helps that power play out, but I just saw this morning. He's going to be sidelined for the next 6 weeks at least. So he's going to miss a lot of it. It's a lot of time. So, you know, you're seeing other guys step up maybe offensively, but Kyle Connor to me is that guy and you mentioned Jason Robertson. I don't think anybody's buy low at Jason Robert Woods and nobody should sell high on Jason Robertson either because he's continuing to dislike the world on fire. It's phenomenal to watch that play hockey. Well, actually, we should have started with this question, but it ties into this because how Connor was a great example of this. So as a listener question from Jay cotton, who asks, what advanced stats are relevant to fantasy hockey? What metrics should I be looking at to help predict future success? What metrics are unreliable? It's funny 'cause you do fantasy football as well and this year in particular, I've like I jumped headfirst into it and I'm playing in a couple of couple leagues and taking it very seriously and there I'm looking at stuff like yards per route run and completion rate over expected and all the stats are just getting crazy and crazier in terms of how you can really narrow down what each player is doing and that is the hockey.
Alex Ovechkin scores 790th goal, Capitals beat Flyers in OT
"Alex Ovechkin's goal one O four into overtime gave the capitals a three two win over the flyers sending Philadelphia to their 8th straight loss with the flyers up two one Sonny Milano tied the game with two 58 left in regulation. Ovechkin and the caps snapped their own four game losing streak. Yeah, it's important to points. I think we have said we were struggling with high position, but it's a good thing like we battle through it and get it to place. Marcus, Johansson also lit the lamp, the flyers got goals for Morgan frost and Patrick Brown. Craig heist Washington
Vejmelka logs shutout as Coyotes beat Hurricanes 4-0
"Made 36 days as the Arizona coyotes blank the Carolina hurricanes for nothing. Despite being outshot 14 one in the first period, Arizona found themselves ahead on the scoreboard one zero after a goal by Nick schmaltz. The coyotes added three more goals in the third period, including two by loss and Krause to seal the win. Dennis Cox, Raleigh, North Carolina.
Devils' 13-game win streak halted in 2-1 loss to Maple Leafs
"The devil's franchise record 13 game winning streak came to an end as the Maple Leafs came in and defeated New Jersey by the final score of two to one. Toronto scoring came in the first as pontius homework got the leafs on the board in three minutes later, John Tavares netted his 12th town of the year. The Devils had their first three goals of the game overturned. The fans and Prudential center upset after the third time through food and drinks on the ice, which caused a cleanup delay. Dougie Hamilton with a lone devil score late in the third, Toronto goalie Matt Murray stopped 32 shots as the leafs have now won two other last three. For the Devils, they face defeat for just the fourth time in 20 games played. Mike Moriarty, norc, New Jersey
A highlight from The Beasts of the East in the NHL on The Hockey PDOcast: November 23
"Welcome to the hockey PDO cast. My name is mutual povich and joining me is my pal Matt Porter Matt. It's been way too long. I think it's been a couple years since I've had you on the show. I'm excited that we finally have a chance to do this. How's it going about? It's going great. Yes, it has been too long, I have seen a lot in the past, however many years. It might have been since 2019. I think it was a sound a couple I know, right? Yeah, and the world is the same. Since then. So it's nice. It's nice to recoup. No big changes. Here's a plan for today. We're going to do a Patrice bergeron appreciation show because I've been looking for an excuse to do this for a while, not that we necessarily need a special excuse, but I feel like him hitting the thousand boy mark for his career on Monday night gives us just that. And you and I are two of the biggest patriots bergeron appreciators, although I will say, regardless of your allegiances, I think for the most part, his approval rating in terms of hockey fans is about as good as it's going to get. I feel like everyone has a deep rooted respect and appreciation and admiration for Patrice bergeron, the advanced fair to say. A 100%, I can't imagine any but like I've never seen anybody with a wild anti Patrice bergeron take. I don't know classy that guy is. God damn. What would you even base that in? I just was just playing for the bruins, I guess. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, but even still, you know, I hate that guy. He's so good. That kind of thing. Well, I think it's hard player. I will say, well, there's probably fans of Atlantic division teams that for the past 6 years have been baking into their projections for their own team that the bruins are going to take a step back but because Patrice bergeron is going to decline. And so they've been waiting endlessly year over year and just being sorely disappointed. So maybe those people are not the biggest fans of them. I think it's surprised as everybody that he's still going at 37. He had so much left on the table. If he retired, you'd think, I mean, he was almost a point per game guy last year. I know obviously points are everything as we've discussed, but it would be ridiculous for him to be retired at this point. I don't know how many more years he wants to do this. But he looks like a player to me that can play until he's 40. I am surprised as anybody. Yeah, well, I guess we'll see that sort of what the future holds for him next. I kind of wanted to spend the good chunk of this talking about what he is as a player now and what we see from him. And I in preparation for this web back and watched most of his shifts from the season. I wanted to really just get a deep dive while we feel for myself. You get to cover them up close and personal on a daily basis and you sort of get to see the magic of that. And I feel like he's probably one of those players. I'd say, but just because of how detailed his own game is, I feel like watching him in person gives you an added appreciation to what he does because sometimes he does things like off the puck and maybe like the puck is ahead of the play and so if you're watching just on your laptop, the camera is following the play and he's behind the play and he's probably already doing something to give himself a slight advantage for whatever is going to happen next. So I feel like getting that bird's eye view of swatching him live from the breast box probably gives you an even greater appreciation of what he does out there. A 100% and there's a lot of different ways that we could take this, but I see him I guess a good way to frame it is like I see him as the ultimate support player. Like his ability to fill the lane behind where the puck is and where the pressure is from his teammates, we were talking off camera about his superpower, which he really, I guess it would be his hand eye as you mentioned. It's probably just that ability to just be in a lane and close off options elsewhere, allowing a guy who has fresh legs or like a Jake to brusque or a Brad marchand. Even a defenseman like hemp is a little more Connor, Clifton, you know, when they're in zone, he allows everybody else to kind of do the work where he's in the middle of the ice, where he's filling those lanes. And it's also, it's also his ability to make a quick bump off the wall or pass it out of the corner or pick up a secondary assist. It's so fitting for me that his thousand point the other night was a secondary assist where he just had a carry through the neutral zone, made a little kind of a delay move. And he just kind of got everything going, and then it was on a bread Martian goal. I mean, that's completely fitting for me is he's compiled a lot of points, especially this season with those kind of secondary plays, those support plans. Yeah, well, and I think the thing for me is if you look, what's remarkable about it is you think in theory, I mean, it is the league around him. Is getting younger and I think discernible faster, right? Like every year, new players come into the league and they're just so much faster than the previous guys that were playing before them. And despite that fact, he's getting older, you'd think he's theoretically at least physically slowing down, but then you look at his actual production and there's really literally zero signs that his efficiency is declining in even the slightest. In fact, I think you could put together a pretty compelling argument and I guess I will here in a second that he's actually getting better. Which is just preposterous to think about a player who's turning 38 in July, he's a year 19 of playing in the NHL. He's played north of 1400 games now combined regular season in playoffs and a 167 of those are playoff games and I think you could probably say like those count for one and a half or two regular season games in terms of the physical and emotional tool.
Kreider strikes twice, caps Rangers' comeback win over Kings
"Chris kreider scored twice in the third period to lead the rangers to a 5 to three come from behind win against the kings. Every point is really important to us and to come to this building and to get a win. Writers scored the go ahead goal near the midway point of the period and he later added an empty netter in the final seconds to ice it, Igor sterk and made 35 saves. The kings who took a two zero lead just 6 minutes into the game got a goal in two assists from Kevin fiala, Mark Myers, Los Angeles
A highlight from Hot Streaks & Hot Seats w/ Former NHL GM Dave Nonis
"Joining us today Toronto Maple Leafs, former general manager, Vancouver, former general manager, Dave notice. And this could be a repeat performance. Maybe we'll see. Yeah, he does. I think we got a grill them on it. I'm with you, man. I listen to Dave on overdrive in Toronto recently. And you know, as a general manager sitting in the big chair, often he was, he seemed conservative, right? He wasn't the bombastic Brian Burke type. And he followed in the footsteps of Brian Berg basically everywhere and Vancouver and Toronto certainly. But he was engaging. He was to the point, he had a good sense of humor. So let's see if we can drag him in the mud here on the podcast and headlines ray once again this season presented by our good pals at Boston pizza. Had some Boston pizza on the weekend. Remember, we talked about how is that where you guys ended up? Clear weekend, not on Uber eats. I went that route instead, but ordered a little pie, the meteor, it's my go to or the Canadian, but kind of one and the same. So I go to the meteor. All right, here are our headlines. Where do you want to start? Good stuff. The devil's oilers? Oh, yeah. Good devil's honors. I mean, it makes sense. We start with the New Jersey Devils, the hottest team in hockey right now. 13th straight win. And they beat a pretty good Edmonton Oilers team, but I keep getting asked about this and I'm sure you do too. How do they continue to do it? And I'm like, wow, they're goaltending is pretty good right now. It's at least averaged slightly above. Their defenses can annihilate in the podcast a couple of weeks ago, said is really good. And by the way, they've got guys who are put in the pocket net on a consistent basis up front. That sounds like the ingredients for a successful recipe. Yeah, so let's go back just to last year when everybody felt like the Devils were going to make a jump. That was going to be the year that they were getting a little better. They spent to get dougie Hamilton. Well, they lose Hamilton for much of the year. They used 7 goalies. What are the chances you can even find 7 goalies? Yeah. The answer is almost impossible. So the year implodes, I did them second game of the year in or actually it was their opener in Philadelphia. They lost. And Niko his here wasn't in the lineup. And my view watching them was, wow, they're pretty small. They're not a big, they're not a big team. And the Philly beat them and they didn't play particularly well. And then they lost a couple more. They were all in three, and I was like, oh boy, maybe they aren't going to be big enough. And then they want 13 in a row. So a couple of things in there. A check from Washington who they got in a trade and then sign. He's been terrific. He's given them what you said, dregs, slightly above average, NHL goaltending, which they haven't had forever. And so they've been fine there. They score like crazy. They're so fast. And now they get three guys over 20 points. Just for brat, who's going to make a boatload of money. One year, $5.4 million daily signed in the summer. Hughes has over 20 Jack Hughes over 20 points and Niko he shares over 20 points. If he's here stays healthy, which he has had trouble with in the past, he might be the center point of that that they need their captain in that lineup. And man, they're big on D and they're good. I think they've already clinched a playoff spot. Yeah. They got 32 points. They got to get to 95. They need 63 points and 60 games. They're going to get that. Look, and you and I know Tom Fitzgerald, the GM pretty well. Fitz is a good man. He's hungry, super competitive. Shocking to no one. If he finds something inside that lineup that he feels he needs, he's going to find it right. Like that's the messaging that we're getting in the media that cover at that closely, right? Is the undercurrent? He's not intoxicated by a 13 game run here. He's just looking at a team that's come together very quickly and as long as the age dynamic is there, the fit is there. He's going to find a way to acquire the pieces that make this be that much better. I just thought of something. You said, you know, they've come together really quickly. I kind of think of it about like having a baby. Like when the baby comes, it's really sudden. It took 9 bloody mind fair enough. For the baby to incubate. And so it wasn't that quick. 8, 9 years in a row, something that was a while. But most of a decade. And then it's all come together. And bam. And you're like, we most of us, me, for sure, thought it was a year away. Yeah, maybe not. Great. Okay. Why don't we wrap with fire some of the individual stuff that's going around? Because there are some players that let's start with the big boys here, all right? Out of respect. Patrice bergeron, 1000 points in 1235 NHL games, but you know what the stat is in the incredible career of Patrice bergeron that just leaps off the page for me. Which one? 409 goals. Yeah, it's outrageous. Why does that matter? Outrageous. I told them the other night and I was doing a game. I said jeez I thought you were going to retire and I was kind of hoping you were because you were at four O 7. And I said, and I wanted you to stay there. And I knew if you came back, you were going to dust me. And he's so humble and kind of laughed and giggled or whatever. And then, man, if I could come back as any player, that's the guy. I mean, well, I'd like to be David posternak too, because that's amazing. But I mean, look at the career that bergeron's had every step of the way. We forget, he missed almost a year with a concussion at a time when nobody had any real thought of how somebody was going to come back. Like his career was in danger. You know what was cool last night, Drake? When Marsha went scored? Did you see how happy they were? That puck hit me. That puck hit the back of the net and marchand was jumping on top of bergeron. Man, I just loved seeing how happy they were for him. It's a fourth Bruin in history to have a thousand points with that theme. And all with that team. I just, I think he's an amazing player and congratulations, Dan. The man oozes class. And that's through tough times too. We saw him recently handle from a dressing room perspective. You know, everything that went into the decision to sign much Mueller, right? You know, Drake's gonna tag it with this. I never met nor saw a Jean Belle able, but people talk about Jean belleville. In a different way. And I think that's everything. Presence, class, demeanor, play. And that's how I from our generation. That's what I think of Patrice bergeron as. All right. Malcolm, 1000 games with the Pittsburgh penguins. And what a touching moment. I mean, you can reflect on his career, which has been brilliant, and he too has faced tough times with injury, et cetera. But for the penguins to bring in the key to getting all the sun to announce the starting line, I got to tell you, man, I'm getting soft in my old age. But I watched that clip probably three, four, 5 times. And each time, and maybe it's because of how emotional genome was, right? But it brings it tear to my eye and then to see the little guy in his dad and brace after he announces the starting lineup. I just don't think teams get enough credit for the good things that they do. And credit to club and NHL marketing for pulling the curtain back and allowing us inside the room to see these things as a media and fanbase. Yeah, I loved it. When he came in there, you know, I think for most of malkin's career, he's appeared pretty closed off, you know, pretty tight, only open with his teammates, the people that he trusts. But that's changed kind of as, you know, we've seen it a little bit more of his of his humor. And again, it's probably a lot with the team and malkin allowing that stuff to, you know, maybe to be out into the public sphere a little bit more. But it struck me too that just how happy and emotional he was with his boy. You know what? Yeah. It's almost like he couldn't let him go. And then I also loved when the guys, I looked like a choreographed thing, but all the guys were following malkin's routine out on the ice and warm up. I just thought it was hilarious, and he
Bergeron gets 1,000th point, streaking Bruins beat Lightning
"The Boston Bruins extended their win streak to 7 straight with a 5 three road win over the Tampa Bay lightning but trees bergeron notched as 1000th career point as a Bruin assisting on Boston's fourth goal of the game by Brad marchand It means even more when it's a guy that I've been has been on my side for such a long time and has such a big impact on the team but also on my career Nick Paul scored Tampa Bay's first and third goals the bruins answered with tallies from David crece Nick foligno Charlie Coyle Marshawn and David pasternak Rudolph bolsters also scored his first as a lightning Tampa
A highlight from Woodley's back with more in depth goalie talk
"To the hockey PDO cast. My name is major philippovich, joining me in studio to my left. My good buddy Kevin woodley Kevin, what's going on man? Not much. This is fast. You said we would do this again. This is the benefit of a daily show. We don't have to wait once a year for my appearance with Daily show, professional studio. I don't have to be like lugging you into some WeWork conference room. We can just get here. We've got producer behind the glass. We've got the professional mics. Everything's all set up looking nice. We're gonna tweet out some videos. Later of so people can see us talking, just to prove I probably should have put in my tooth. While you're wearing them, you're wearing the blazer, so, you know, it's looking good. But you're right, I had you on a couple weeks ago, and we said, we're not going to do an annual show with you anymore. We're going to have you on our more regular basis. So we're living up to our word and honestly, like I love chatting with you with the listeners, have been filling up my inbox with wine and woodley on the PDO gas more often. So wow. Yeah, I like that because I have two teenage daughters. One actually has moved out to university, but I don't get a lot of more me requests. It's like dad go away, so that's nice. It's nice to hear that somebody actually wants me to be a part of something. Wow. Amongst my nerdy listenership and I say that in the most affectionate way possible. You're a big hit, so that's because Johann hedberg once told me that he referred to me to my face as a goal geek and then he backed off and he was like, but I mean that in a very respectful way. Like, that's a good thing. So there we go. There we go. The nerds and the geeks were all aligned. So we're going to start this conversation with the listener question. Colin Dolan, emailed me a couple of weeks ago actually shortly after our first pod together. And I saved it for this specific occasion because I wanted to talk about it with you and only you. So the question goes, is the short side shot underutilized. I realized goalies position themselves closer to short side. But it seems like there's a surprise element to a shot being ripped short side high. I'm hurricanes fans, Andre said shikov comes to mind with players who like to blow high heat short side. I realize that the shot across the goalie creates more rebound opportunities as we call them affectionately pillow passes. That's me. Yeah, exactly not yet. And I'll call in. But yeah, that's the question we'll call it. And I think it's an interesting idea because, you know, we're talking before we went on the air and there's this there's this notion that if you're a goalie and you give up a goal short side, it's almost viewed as like a bad one. It's like one that you should have had. Yeah and it's funny because this actually is giving me ideas for my unmask column on NHL dot com. I gotta start asking the guys that come through town if this is still a thing, but I remember, you know, I mean, I've been doing this 20 years now, but covering the league and having people refer to that short side goal is the American League side. Like if you gave it up too much because you're gonna be back in the American League and you know, not to geek out on the first answer, but a little geometry would tell you, like draw a line from the face off dot to each post and which one's the shorter line, like the short side, the shorter line every time. It's the fastest path into the net. It's why when we have screen opportunities as a goaltender, like there's two reasons most teams run a system off screens where if you've got a screen in front of you, whether it's usually opposing screen, but maybe it's a double screen with your own guy, and you've got to pick a side, which side do I look around that screen? Almost like to a team to a guy you're picking short side because that's the fastest path for the puck to get in the net. You're sort of counting on okay if I cheat short side here 'cause I can't stay middle unless I'm a giant like a markstrom and I just look over everyone, but if I gotta pick a side, I'm going short side gets shot to the far side, I've got enough time because it's a longer path again geometry to shift across and try and pick it up as I move. Also the second part of that is there's typically more bodies in the middle. It's more likely to hit something in the middle of the ice, but so, you know, it's interesting. I would need to see to answer the listeners questions like what the numbers are. I sprung this one on you without any. Well, and I don't like that one thing. I mean, they're very few things that Claire sight doesn't track, but like, say, against the grain and what side of the net and where glove block or things like that, that those are some of the elements that they don't keep track of. So it's almost anecdotal at this point. I haven't even had a chance to ask around. You don't think I'm curious. I do know like goalies for sure. Like I've had this conversation with goalie coaches. If I left handed shot comes off the wall into the middle of the ice, they almost always go back against the grain. You can watch drills and Goldie coaches have said like, watch this. Watch this as a trend because young goalies can learn from this. That shooter almost every time is going to try and pull it back against the grain or short side. And so that's a tendency for sure that they look for. So I'd be curious to see what the numbers actually say about if guys are trying to take advantage of that or not. The geometry certainly says you should be. Here's a beautiful thing about this question why I brought it up because I knew you'd come with something. And then we could riff. And I just came up with my head with three follow-up questions that I have for you based on this. Here's what we're going to get through one segment with basically one question. It might be. It might be all a show.
Crosby, Malkin score as Penguins beat Blackhawks 5-3
"Sidney Crosby had his second four point game in less than a week to carry the penguins past the Blackhawks 5 three Crosby snapped a three three tie with his tenth goal of the season scoring with three 14 remaining He also had three assists Evgeny malkin scored in his 1000th NHL game I feel like it's like yesterday afternoon my test game and tonight is possible again and just like crazy how fast it's time to play around it Ricard Raquel had a goal on an assist and Brock mcginn also scored for the pens Philip kuros chef tied it in the final period before Chicago suffered its fourth straight loss I'm
Tarasov turns back 46 shots; Blue Jackets beat Panthers 5-3
"The blue jackets won for the fourth time in their last 5 home games by topping the Panthers 5 three Boone Jenner scored twice and Johnny goudreau had a goal and two assists as Columbus handed Florida its third straight loss Goudreau says the game turned when teammate chunk rally scored a shorthanded goal to put the jackets ahead to stay You could just see our confidence just go straight through the roof there And we were playing in Arizona even with the lead And it was fun It was a big goal by girls Danielle Tara saw faced a career high 49 shots stopping 46 in his first win since October 23rd I'm Dave ferry
Bruins tie NHL mark for home start; beat Blackhawks, 6-1
"Charlie mcavoy had four assists as Boston defeated Chicago 6 to one for their 11th straight win at home to start the season 11 tying the NHL record for home wins to start a campaign David pasternak had a pair of goals and Patrice bergeron had a goal and an assist It's been a fun journey and going to keep that going and you know for me it's really about to continue to grow as a team and to get better The bruins have won 6 straight overall while the Blackhawks have lost three in a row I'm David Shuster
Devils beat Senators, stretch winning streak to 12 games
"The devil's improved to 15 and three with their 12th consecutive win 5 one over the senators Michael mccloud and you gore Sharon govich each had a goal and an assist for New Jersey which is one away from matching the longest winning streak in team history Eric hala opened the scoring with a power play goal 7 ten into the game The devil's also received goals from jesper bokeh and Nathan Bastian Akira Schmidt stopped 25 shots and blanked out of what until Derek Broussard beat him late in the second period The Devils are the second team to 30 points this season Joining the bruins I'm Dave ferry
A highlight from The Friday Mailbag with J-Fresh Hockey
"Welcome to the hockey PDO cast. My name is Michel philippovich and joining me today is my good buddy Jack phaser Jack what's going on. I'm doing pretty well. How are you doing? I'm good. I'm excited. We're going to have you back on. We've already done this once so far. We've been doing the mailbag every Friday here in the PDO cast. The listeners seem to really be enjoying it and have been coming through with the clutch questions. So we're going to keep it going. So if you want to get in on the fun for future editions, you can email it to me, add Dimitri which are Gmail dot com or tweet it at us and we're going to get to it. So Jack, let's jump right into it. We got so many questions to get into and not enough time. So we'll start with IT asks biggest surprise or most impressive aspect of the devil's current success. What do you got for that? Yeah, there's two of us stand out. First one for me is the defense because offensively, I mean, you've got to do it in the ESPN piece that we both contributed to Greg Wilson wrote. Where there definitely more well rounded offensive team than they were. But for me, it's the fact that they've kind of married their rust chance creation. And completely turned everything around on their rush defense. That was maybe their biggest weakness last year was if you want to play the PDO cast drinking game when I come on. Trading chances would be probably the one that you would pick out. And they were doing that last year. They've done that for a couple of years now whenever they're skilled players are on the ice, but they've just been completely able to completely shut things down off the rush, which when you're able to generate with speed, which are the most dangerous chances. But at the same time, you're not giving that up. It's no surprise that they're winning hockey games the way they are. And I really thought, at least if that was going to happen, it would require some kind of coaching change or huge personnel shifts, but it seems to have taken despite the lack of either of those things. Yeah, well, they won 11 games in a row. They've been getting contributions for a lot of people. I think the temptation here is to say that the goaltending is kind of the biggest surprise because this was a team that was 31st in team save percentage last year and they're all the way up to 11th so far this year. And I don't want to take anything away from VTech vanity check who has legitimately been perfectly solid. He's made the seas when he's needed to, I think he's provided a level of stability that they clearly didn't have in the past. At the same time, despite his 9 14 save percentage, he's only got less than a goal saved above expected in his 11 games. And that's because, as you mentioned, the team in front of them has just been playing at such a truly unbelievably elite level. Their first and fewer shots allowed, first in fewest high danger chances allowed, no team has given up fewer expected goals against than they have. And they've just been absolutely hounding teams with that skating style that for a long time was only benefiting them offensively now they're using it to pressure to create turnovers to just dominate an all areas of the ice. And so you see two games ago against the have is where they're up big for the final 25 to 30 minutes of that game. It felt like the Canadians weren't even able to string a pass out of their own zone because they were getting bottled up so much by that transition defense. Against the leafs last night, they go up to one into the third period and despite the fact that they wound up giving up a power play goal against the tide it up and they had to win it in overtime. I thought for that third period they didn't sit back at all. They went after the leafs, they out skated them. They were the more aggressive team. And so they're kind of putting all of that together now where it's really coming at all fronts. And so it's playing like a immaculately solid group that's really just dominating all three layers offensively defensively and in transition. Yeah, and it's not just the stars, like it's not like Jack Hughes and you can share carrying the team. I mean, this is a group where every single regular player on the roster is well above break-even in every single online staff, including the fourth line, you guys like Thomas tatar and Fabian netherland who I don't think people would have assumed would be caving an opponent from a night to night basis coming into the year. It really is kind of one of those like Florida Panthers, Colorado avalanche a couple of years ago type teams where the tide is just carrying the whole group. It's not just a couple of guys up top who are dragging the group along. Well, and Jeremy sauna band here will only related question asks, or he says, Michael mccurdy's model has Niko his share of success so far this season mostly driven by his lie to me. It's in Thomas zatar and amphibian zetterland and the three of those guys together have been preposterous, right? They played a 105 one 5 minutes together. They're up 8 one shots are 75 to 37 and high danger chances are 29 to 11 according to natural stature. And, you know, I think it's pretty clear that while I think the model is suggesting that his year has gone up a level because he's been added to those two guys and the three of them together have been at their best. We've seen his year in the past, even though he hasn't had these offensive numbers necessarily. And I think he's taken a leap so far there this year. We've seen him drive 5 on 5 play with inferior, more passenger level players before and still look fine and have a great penalty differential and be really solid. So he's taken us the next step this year where I believe he leads the league in 5 on 5 scoring on a permanent basis, which is clearly, you know, I wouldn't expect that to continue because I'd say he's still probably the third most dynamic forward behind Jack Hughes and jesper bratt, but if he's able to be a nearly pointed game player or even a bob as he's been so far with the defensive acumen as well, I mean that makes him that makes him a rockstar for them, right?
Parssinen scores twice, leads Predators over Islanders 5-4
"The natural predators edged out the New York islanders 5 to four After being up four to one midway through the second period the islanders decided to make things interesting Kyle clutterbuck and Kyle Palmer each scored to pull the visitors within one but after natural use their time out the third period prez rookie you so parsed and scored his second of the game to give his team the insurance marker they need We didn't have a really good second half of the second period and the start of the third was not that good So I just told me told us to pick it up and play the way I would say the first Natural captain Roman yossi had four assists on the night Three coming in the first period alone I'm Jeremy Kay gover
Lehkonen's OT goal lifts Avalanche past Hurricanes 3-2
"The avalanche pulled out a three two win over the hurricanes on a goal by arturi lechon in one 55 into overtime The abs wasted a pair of leads and one despite being outshot 48 15 Pavel Franco kept Colorado in the game with 46 saves Evan Rodriguez and Alex newhook also scored in the abs 5th victory in 6 games Martinez tied the game midway through the third period and assisted on Sebastian aho's goal but Carolina fell for the fourth time in 6 games The gains were zero for four on the power play I'm Dave fairy
Crosby has 2 goals, 2 assists in Penguins' 6-4 win over Wild
"Sidney Crosby had a season high four point night in the penguin 6 four win at Minnesota Crosby had two goals and two assists setting up Chris letang's power play goal in the second period and scoring a big goal with a man advantage in the third He's trying to come out hard and sometimes it works out it works out that way but nothing I'm really focusing on too much but it won't complain about when it goes in or what part of the game Ryan polling Brock mcginn and Jake gensel also scored for the pens who were three one on one since the 7 game losing streak Joel Erickson X scored twice for the wild who also received goals from Brandon and Matt dumba I'm Dave ferry
David Krejci scores twice in 3rd, Bruins beat Flyers 4-1
"The bruins have continued their best start since the 1929 30 season with a four one victory over the flyers David pasternak set up the eventual game winner by Jake the brusque 7 and a half minutes into the third period Then ice the game with a pair of goals Thomas no sick also tallied and Pavel zaka had to assist the brass can David creche each hat power play goals as the bruins improved to 15 and two Lena Sue Mark stopped 22 shots and blanked the flyers until Owen tippett made it two one on a power play midway through the third period I'm Dave ferry
Devils win 11th straight, edging Maple Leafs 3-2 in OT
"The devil's picked up their 11th consecutive win by downing the Maple Leafs three two and overtime at Toronto Sharon govich scored 57 seconds into the extra period giving New Jersey the second point after William nylander tied it for Toronto with two O 9 remaining in regulation Jesper brought and Nico he sure also scored for the Devils who are 14 and three and haven't lost since October 24th VTEC vanecek handled 25 shots and Matt Murray made 30 saves for the leafs Auston Matthews scored the game's first goal on a power play I'm Dave ferry
A highlight from Vancouver Canucks Legends and Hockey Hall of Famers: Daniel & Henrik Sedin
"Store and pick up a bottle of this wrapping up the chronicle series, trust us. It does not get any better. We've got Hall of Fame inductees Henrik and Daniel sedin of the Vancouver connect. What a whirlwind experience for all of the Hall of Famers. But then oh, jeez, yeah, we gotta get back to the real world, which is part of the development group of the Vancouver Canucks. So I'm guessing they're tired of doing media based on Hall of Fame, but kind enough Henrik and Daniel will join us in the podcast this week great. Talk about the weekend that it was and obviously will reflect back on their career. And, you know, just they're enjoyment level, not with how the things have gone with the Vancouver connect to this point, but just being part of that development coaching wheel in the National Hockey League. Headlines, again, this season presented by our friends at Boston pizza and I thought we'd start with kind of a nasty incident last night between the Los Angeles kings and the Edmonton orders with former knuckles, settlers hit on Connor McDavid. You know, to be fair, I didn't get a real good luck about the replay on it. I mean, it was called meaning. So there was a penalty on the play. It was a knee on knee situation. Just the response from the oilers postgame. You know, Zach Hyman talking about how the same guy hit him in a very similar situation and he was out an extended period of time. So I trust you've seen the video. I was watching last night. Dirty play split second reaction by edler, just trying to get a piece of Connor McDavid or maybe a combination of those two things. Well, okay, so it's a combination, but it's not like edler goes out in the game and says, you know, if I get a chance, I'm going to get my neo on McDavid. Nobody thinks that. I know fans like they, you know, they get so emotionally tied up and invested in it. But nope, I'm telling it, nobody does that. Nobody thinks that the media too, by the way, right? Honestly, part of the thing that everybody's the same, they say they don't care. But they're so full of crap because the emotionality and I wonder if they realize if their team wins the cup they don't get a ring. Like do they know that? Because they're not going to get one. Anyway. So I slide off on the path there. I could spend more time on that, but we won't. So it's a bit of both. It's a dirty play, and it's a last second reaction. Here's where the issue is, is as you get older or if or if you're not as talented as some other guys. And for edler, it's that he's getting older. You lose agility, you lose mobility, and sometimes you get stuck in a position where you're like, oh boy, in the wrong spot. It just, it just happens. Game's super fast. If you watch the play, McDavid's heading towards his own net. So I'm assuming Adler thinks I've got to get up on the play here because they're going to regroup in the neutral zone. And then like in a split second, McDavid's going the other way. Like if you watch that pivot and turn he makes, not a lot of guys that are doing that. Now he's coming quickly and in his position at large screwed. He really is. There's two things from a technical standpoint that caused that play to happen. One is that edler doesn't have his stick on the ice because he thinks he's got room to get up the ice. Because McDavid's going the other way. Sticks on the ice. He's going to make contact first puck on stick, and there is no hint. The second part is because his sticks up, that means his shoulders are square and as soon as you miss the initial shoulder contact, the only thing that can hit is knees. That's it. So those two things put edler in that spot. In my opinion, that play can not go ignored from player safety. And the reason I say that is you can't penalize McDavid because he's better than other people. That just can't be. It's not his fault that he's faster and more agile than Alex edler. Is going to make the hit, he's surprised that McDavid's coming as quickly as he is because he thinks he's got another couple of seconds. His stick's not on the ice. And as he misses the hit, he's like, oh, and he sticks his knee out. Yes, I know it's just a penalty. But it should not matter. This is my beef, I think, with player safety on these plays strikes is it shouldn't matter if McDavid's heard or not. I know they say it does. And they're very clear that it does. Yeah, it's part of the criteria. If McDavid tears is meniscus on that play and misses two months, is that they're going to get three games? Probably. Because he finished the game, he's not going to get anything. But it's the same play. Yeah. It's like, you know, they have a terrible analogy. It's like somebody gets hit in the head with a stick. And one guy's head is made out of concrete, and he doesn't even get caught in another guy gets caught and then there's a suspension on the one that's cut. No, it's the action. They should be suspended. So in my opinion, it's a sustainable play because of the reaction that edler makes. I don't think edler is a dirty player by any stretch, but I do think it's a play that deserves whether it's one game or two games. I think there's something that should be there. That's a dangerous dangerous play waiting for a bad outcome. All right, external heat developing and rising on Thatcher demko, right? Starting will tender for the Vancouver Canucks. I'm sure self admission he would acknowledge that he's not playing up to the standard that he established last year. I mean, many a night you watched every Canucks game last season second half. Yeah, there was the boudreau bump, but a lot of it had to do with the stellar goaltending of Thatcher demko. So he needs to be better, but is that developing heat as I described fair and accurate and no longer term even more concerning. I think it's fair. I think it's accurate. I don't think he's been very good. And I was on, I've been on multiple shows with my opinion saying I think he's one of the 5 or 7 best goalies in the league. Right now he's one of the worst, like statistically he's one of the worst. So I see articles that are coming out. Can the Canucks fix him? Well, okay, so he's played, I don't know, has he played 8 games? Something like that, something like that. So in those 8 games, he's completely forgotten how to play goal. The other 40 that he played last year, where he was amazing. They don't count anymore. A player can go into like, I don't know, is Steven stamkos ever going to score goals again. He went pen games without a goal. Nobody's out wondering whether they can fix stamp calls. It's the course of a season and every good goalie will run through this. Maybe not to the extreme right now that damn cool is. I find not being a goalie, but I find the goalies to get into trouble like this as the panic sets in a bit than every player has when they start to hit a ditch. The panic is he tries too hard to stop the puck. He needs to rely more on his instincts and his reads of the game. When you see a pocket go through a goalie on a consistent basis, that means there's movement. They could be square to start, but then they move their blocker opens up their arm, puck goes through. They move their feet, park goes through their legs, and to me, it's not a, hey, let's fix it by next Thursday because it's going to take a little bit of time here, but he's not anywhere near as good. But I don't, for me, it's not an overriding concern. I don't see that at all. Would that apply to buffalo as well? I mean, buffalo is in a funk right now last 7 games. And it wasn't that long ago. We were looking at the buffalo Sabres and man, it was just fun to see this group play the way they were playing early in the season. You can still see the pieces. You know, they've got a terrific top line. You know, you've walked Rasmus dahlin and own power and the evidence is legit that the Sabres blue line is going to be one of their strengths in the very near future. So just something that, you know, Donnie and the buffalo Sabres have to play through the kind of rise and fall ebb and flow of what is a regular season and the fact that it's not easy to turn a corner like buffalo is trying to do. I think it's the second one. Again, we talked about those young teams at the start of the year. And in my opinion, was there a year away all of them from competing. Now, turns out I might be wrong on Jersey as they've won ten straight. But Detroit, Detroit's got their teeth kicked in a couple of times here in the last two weeks. They've become a young team again. Ottawa just what
A highlight from The future of Player Contracts in the NHL & Hockey Business
"I'm pretty good. Good. It's actually my son's my son's second birthday today. So there we go. Congratulations to you and your son. That's exciting. So yeah, it was he's picked them up from day care a little bit later today, but earlier today he got like a we get him like a hot wheels like track thing, which I made me and his older sister may have, may or may not have had more fun with this more than he did. So it's a good, it's a good day in the Shapiro household. There we go. Well, hopefully we can make that day even better with this with this podcast video here. I'm gonna read you a line that I read on someone's substack recently. There are too many hockey podcasts. It's an over saturated market. And if you don't have an established podcast in 2022, it's probably too late. Most podcasts are too long. When a podcast is an hour long, I start to worry about being able to commit to it, to listening to it. So I just rarely even start Sean. Who would say something like that? Have that person a person clearly is misguided and lost and doesn't have an established hockey podcast. Wow, here's the thing. We don't have to worry about that. 'cause this is a 50 minute show these days. So 15 minutes falls under the hour long Mark. So I think it's not too long for anyone to commit just the right amount. No, this will be a blast man. I'm excited to catch up with you. It's been a while since we did a show together. I think the last time we did a show, you had moved on from covering the stars, but I feel like we still get a star as deep dive you're still my go to stars guy. It's funny in that market. It's Matthew de Franks who's leading to cover the blues soon. I had him on recently. I love the way he covers the team, you know, you go on down the line and bobster I check in with him all the time. He's kind of a go to for me. There's so much good stars content and then I do like shows about the stars and people ask me like why are you why are you so obsessed with this team and for a couple of years there especially under Rick bowness it was a very fair question. This year they've been much more exciting to watch and we documented that when I did a stars deep dive recently but I'm still upset with the Dallas stars. Yeah, it's a team that is has always been fascinating. the ice even when the play on the ice sometimes was not it was not so entertaining and it's funny to see obviously Matt that's a good buddy of mine and good to see you. I'm happy for him to be going he's moving doing geographic move for family reasons so happy for him but he's going from one team that's be honest a little less entertaining to cover at the end of the day. Well, I don't think it's a coincidence that the sample is blues. I think one of four in a row. Oh yeah, almost almost dating back to the maths. It's the diffract bump. It's the you know how everyone they won the blues, the blues win the cup in 2019 and you couldn't and you couldn't read a single story about the greatest story without seeing something about all they were last place and an interim coach. So when they're in the playoffs this year, I expect every single major media outlet to look back to the deference bump as the reason the blues are turned everything around. I love that. I love that. Let's talk a bit about Jason Robertson. I did want to discuss him because oftentimes, like I've written a bunch about him in the past and the stats that that line puts up with him and Joe pavelski is so hilarious, both compared to the rest of the team, but also just pretty much every other top line. They're on off splits are just continuously through the roof. And the rest of the team has played better this season, but they're still carrying so much of the weight. And whenever I tweet about Jason Robertson, he has a very big passionate following, which is great, and you'll have to see it. But then there's also this contingent that's like, man, no one, this guy doesn't get talked about nearly enough. And it's interesting because I guess that's fair to say because he's so fun to watch. He does it in such a unique, different way compared to a lot of the traditional pun intended stars in today's game where it's such a speed oriented game. And so when you watch Conor McDavid or you watch Nathan McKinnon, it's very easy for someone who doesn't even know anything about hockey to watch them and say, oh, I get it. This guy is really good. You can see that he moves faster than everyone else. He takes the puck on his end from his end of the ice, goes coast to coast, goes through everyone's scores. Yeah, that makes sense. When you watch Jason Roberts and his game is so much more nuanced in terms of moving off of the puck and kind of using his instincts and veteran savvy despite the fact that he's so young and hasn't been in the league that long to kind of get to the right spots and make it happen. And he plays off a group a hint of speed so well. But his stats are so good that I think people might be right. Like maybe we should be talking more about Jason Robertson. It hasn't quite gotten to the Alexander barkov. Underrated yet, 'cause I think he probably still is because he's a bona FIDE superstar and he's posting stats that are right up there with everyone. I'll give you a few. He's 5th in 5 one 5 points per 60. He's first in all situations point per 60 ahead of Connor McDavid. He's got 11 goals and 14 assists in his 16 games so far. And he's doing all of that.