See. Would you made us a my agent job? Yes. Sure. Answer it. Good. Thanks giving moment. I'm witnessing and I'm doing podcast with David Tennant. We thought that before to see if anyone rings. Is it only this Lindy Lindy Lindsay David says, good? No. Oh, we'll cut went to find. Is it good or bad Lindy? Good. Okay. Bryn good is called Gouda. Thank you, five day. Know very lovely. But for the listener. David Tennant does opposed cast with Michael sheen. Gordon Brown Jodie Whittaker Samantha the Catherine Tate. James corden Bolivia Coleman will be over Hanno, everyone Hulo, Georgia. David, welcome, welcome to an extra special extra edition of the podcast. We assume any bits of interviews that we just don't have time to in the original programs. So it seemed a waste it is. So here's a little taste of some of its that you missed out on first time round extra special offcuts. We selection books from the series to start off. Here's Michael sheen. Being excitable, your amount of through Seattle's get carried away. Yeah. Which is lovely and his lovely, you clearly have enjoyed these moments you've also been able to pursue your enthusiasms, haven't you. I'm thinking, for instance, someone like Stephen King found a feeding and through sort of having a bit of status within one industry, you can kind of. Cheesed stone. These people that, yeah, yeah, I wore the world's was a big Jeff Wayne's world, which is just recently recorded so, yeah, we did. So Jeff when I was about, I would say, probably about twelve thirteen my cousin Hugh, why say cousin. He's one of those people who, don't really because like he my mom and dad were going out with his moment dot night. And so he had to kind of look after me for the night. Whatever. And he was he was probably about sixteen seventeen time, and he played me while you did a few things he gave me Lord of the rings the book. Right. And he played me various albums one of Gerry Rafferty album since then Gerry. Rafferty nitel. Okay. Bake street. Alexa, stuff, very I love Jerry Raftery ever since then. And he also play a rush. I think he played me a rush album, which also become a favourite might, and he, he played Jeff Wayne's war. The world's don't allow them terrified me how to massive affect on me ever since then. I've been slightly obsessed with right? L them. And then a few years ago, I was to guest at it. The today programme for radio four where you get to kind of suggest things to do stories. And so one of them, I said was I'd like to do something about ward worlds. And so I interview David Essex, I'm Jeff Wayne, but it was a remote into. They went in the studio with me. They would like someone else. I'm but we talked over the Mike. Yes. And so that must've eventually or something or Josh you hold us into a new wanna sleep. What are the things I'm interested in? I like that. Yeah. So that was very much. So like a case of us whatever I've got yet to be able to, you know, follow these things that I'm enthusiastic about. And so, so I did I suppose that meant the Jeff Wayne new that I was into world. So then a few years on, again, fairly recently by year ago, I got a message my age. Agent. Jeff Wayne's been in touch wondering if you'd be interested in doing the new version of war of the worlds. No questions asked. And so, so I got to go to Jeff Wayne's studio outside London. And he's home studio. And look at all the photographs of him and Burton when they did it region all the more the world's memorabilia, I was. I was David. It was unbelievable. It was one of the greatest moments of my life. I got completely overwhelmed by and we ended up doing a kind of, you know, behind the scenes bit of you know, b roll footage was. And they sort of interviewed us. I'm sitting there with Jeff Wayne talking about how important this album's being world and I just started openly weeping. It was. So in bars, poor Jeff didn't quite know. Why should he was delights? Oh, and at one point, he would do two thing where he's got piano in his studio, and they were interviewing him and he did the thing when he went he was talking about what was what was the first bit of melody that came to you, and I come up he was like, well, it was playing the piano, and I almost came. I Jeff Wayne is playing the world to you on a piano in front of me. Oh, I mean these are the things that we had. A lot of the guest on the show. Georgia have talked about juggling their public life with their home life. Melissa leasing naught. Here's Livia Coleman again unfolding that James corden. So what do you have? I'm Bishen left or is I'm being a dirty word. Now I think I'm Bishen took me a long time to admit that I had Bishen thing and did it feel like did you have to admit it wasn't at dirty word to yourself. Yeah. Am I think I realized that I am bishops? Because because I love work. I want to keep working has got to be some emission in there. Yeah. I'd love to do to work into my AT's. You know they're not love thing about what we do is hopefully, the castle in their written someone in the right is the count costs on to it. It could. But. In week with HD. Yeah. I am also I think I'm a better mummy because I feel autistic Lii and creatively fulfill. Royd. I think anybody who has children would tell you, of course, it's, it's life changing and all those things. But if if you'll live to that point, if you've been an actor or you know, whatever I am. You. You've spent lots of time only really thinking about yourself and your career. Yeah. In quotation marks, and how imported and now what is this, right? Will I be perceived in the right way? Well, what are the new just none of this matters? None of this matters. These three small children. I'm looking over eight foot of shoulder. These people, I don't care how much money we've go. They don't care. Why do they only care on around that on there? And when, when I am there, the UNP resin, and the that they and that's the thing that they'll learn from. And that's all I ever try to remind myself off and I get it wrong. Twenty eight times a day to be clear, like I'm not a get it wrong all the time. But the more you just try and like only be present now. Then you'll if you just trying to be the best version of yourself. That's what this jobs, taught me more than anything else actually is all that matters. Is this moment now? So at this moment, now I'm really thinking about the rest of the day. I'm thinking about the guests on the show tonight. I'm certainly not thinking about anything smaller or thinking about is how can I give David the, the best thing that he might want from this moment now, and then you're gonna leave, and then we're gonna have a creative meeting a war is the best version of this. And if you can transport that from your work to your home, see your life, where I get in, and I will, what does my wife need from me, right now, she certainly doesn't need me talking about how tied I am from the show. My children, don't need me to be on my phone. They just need me to be there and be present. It's weird when ISIS released the album be here. Now are remember I was so young at the time I thought it was a terrible album, tie. Title. I now think it might be the best albums of all time to be here. Now that's all the matters like 'cause if you're doing that, if you'll always just trying your best, your life will be it will be it'll be a picnic in a they must like the urine. Trolls, they love diamond intro. They liked on pizza rabbits, sheera. Nothing's ever nothing ever really stumped. The gruff alo- don't think because that's just, you know, I think yeah, that that's lovely nothing. My youngest daughter is about to discover that question. So, yeah, they love all those things. Peter is a is a is a real fun, one at school. Yeah. Right. Because. Kids, just go. Yep. Lia rabbit. And I he's slightly high voice the main IRAs. Come on look out look out look out hero. And they just like I'll like my legs. That's nice yet they grown up with American accent will my son who's seven has a British accent when he talks to us an American accent with his friends at school. So like he's a survivor. Well, he'll 'cause when you're a school, you'll just do anything to fame coin. You know what I mean? The wrong pair of shoes at my school was like that was awful week. Yeah. When your mom chose bro never announces wearing kickers. Thank you. Thank you. Terrible in. And so he'll be like dad's can I go in the garden, you goose, and then he loved friend round you'll going Berkeley? Come on this go in the yard. I look him like get back. So he bilingual yet. And she does think of it as a second language, 'cause I explained this to once we it with we somewhere knows explains that the post he was talking to us. He said, oh, they said that a sentence like this, and I said, well, that's because they're Spanish is their first language. So actually, their English is way better, my Spanish, or your Spanish Naji is amazing. And I said, you know, you're growing learning Spanish and Spanish will be your second language. You never probably be as good as you are English and he said, no, no American will be my second line, which, and I said, what do you mean he said that they don't even know what pavement is? But my youngest daughter doesn't speak at my other door. She moved here when she was twelve weeks old. Right. She's just like, oh my God. Really? All my guy she woke up at four o'clock this morning data. I can't sleep. Kind of glorious. But then when we go home if we go home for any longer than two weeks. They don't just slots back in. Yeah. Here's the amazing Kathryn Tatum. Yes. Lightly struggling with being famous and her mum of Humam. Is extremely thing suddenly people knowing who you are. Didn't really well, I think you have to be aware that, that was inevitable and it's not thing you can ever complain about because it's, it's a Mark of people liking, what you do, or certainly being aware of what you do it, it's, it's, it's hard to my head was spinning. But it's it's also then I then have is. I have a mother who thinks it's marvelous that people. Okay, so my mum will really go out of her way to make sure people do. I'm always offset that because I'm mom cannot understand. Why would not want people to know that I'm there? Is the I mean, white trolls, annoying ways. You know, I I, I like my work to be out there, and I put my workout, and I do everything from work to be seen. And I hope people like it don't put myself out though. That's not my thing. I have stopped going out with my mum too. Because Mahmoud deliberately go to a different all in white, Troy's, where am, and then shout cats. Just people are just alerted anyway. At someone shouting, the name, I mean. Yeah, my mom feels like mom, genuinely feels go choose T to stop and speak to everyone regardless of whether they've heard of Moore in any way want me to speak. And I often mom, they don't care. They don't care. They just don't care but often in. Not week goes by where I will get in a cab driver or getting a cab and the capital. Joe mom in the back last week. No. Oh, yeah. Oh, my mom will tell anyone I mean in, in the most roundabout way that, that she that she's, which is lovely love her. Pray to is I get phone calls, and she'll have a plumber, in her house, who she's going to be twenty dollar. I mean amazing like high. I mean, she passes the phone to people do your voices them to them, Jon Hamm, lovely voice. Yeah. Groping toys. Yeah. Here he is just a little disgruntled with the modern world to like I learned I learned. A long time ago from from what am I acting? Teachers, actually early on was was one of the big things is just like just be present. If you're watching something through a screen, this is before we had screens. This was this was back in the old days when people would bring, you know, video cameras, those, those handheld, there were small, but they're still like, you know, it was the express purpose was to take video. Yeah. Then you're not watching what you meant to watch experiencing it, you're, you're recording it for a later date that you're never going to watch. Yeah. So what's the point she just sit there and enjoy it? And then, remember that you enjoyed it instead of its, it's equivalent of like buying a concert, t shirt and not going to the concert. Yeah. You know, I went, I went and saw Radiohead in Wimbley, and in nineteen ninety eight like, yeah, why was this show? I remember. T-shirt. Yeah. Are, you know onto a turn is that because you don't quite trust yourself to, to know? In fact, there's been many times I wish I could correct the record on several things that have been written or said about me, but I. What it ends up doing is just extending the cycle of whatever nonsenses being perpetrated. So I it's, it's just easier, I think, in the long run to just opt out and say, like, I'd rather not it's no comment is better than any comment in this day and age. It just it just doesn't. No one cares. No one really listens. Again, it's just it's just for since ation Listrik, you know, rattling the can in some more in some way, and I don't care. It's meaningless to me. I'd rather have a comment. I'd rather sit here and talk to you for hours than tweet off some stupid. Or we all know the president's a lunatic. So who how many people are saying online, does it take it doesn't move the needle? And I think the backlash against it makes it even worse, the culture, the culture rage is very sure. And, and when you're outraged all the time, it's like. Being outraged. None of the time, there has to be a time of, like happiness for the for the outrage to be real. But when everybody's our rigid, everything. Just one of them was the point. And you think because you, you, you became sort of famous public property, I guess just as that was all percolating. So does it did that? Did you make a conscious decision? I really did a lot of a lot of the people madman came madman started in two thousand we shot the pilot in two thousand five aired in two thousand six and Twitter started in two thousand seven right? The iphone came out in two thousand seven right and Instagram came out in two thousand ten or eleven. Facebook was already out, I think. But so it was right at the cusp of that. That thing had I been had to show come out a few years later, I probably would have been asked by the powers that be to be on a social media platforms promote show, which, which actually doesn't really work. It's, it's kind of it's, it's it doesn't really move the needle do people think it does because because of the numbers involved got two million followers. So therefore, it must be thing. And then realize twenty percent of those are fake and the other twenty percent of those just wanna see her in a bikini and another twenty percent of those, you know, are only interested in her brand her lifestyle. So, you know it doesn't really it doesn't really do anything. Yeah. In any real way, but people are able to monetize it for now because they think Emily Radico ski can say I like this shampoo and. Chiampou will go through the roof because she's on Instagram worst, bikinis looks amazing. Like, you know, it's a, it's a, it's a it's a business model at this point. And I talked to a lot of young actors, they kind of like the for my universe stand for my high school, anybody that, that graduates, they, they get sent to me, basically when they come out to LA, it's like all right. Let's go get a Cup of coffee. Let me tell you like let me tell you what to do. Get a job finding thing getting a classic. Do this. Do this do this. But they're all kind of like, what do I do about social media, and I was like, well, I don't know. I'm at a place where I'm fortunate enough to not have to worry about it. But those kids like it's, it's a it's a thing. Now when you go into dish in at a certain level, they're like how many, what's your social media profile, and they'll, they'll, you'll have to show them to the casting director? And if you don't have on the can't do anything with you. Well, I'm not here to be self promoting on social media. I'm here to read the copy and see if you'd like what I do it. But that's secondary. Do you think that's a moment in time that as I think, I think we lies it doesn't really do? I think people the thing about all of this stuff, including the internet as a as a, as a broadband, you know, kind of constant in our lives, is that it's all it's all technology. That is. In its infancy, essentially, especially when you look at social media, and smartphones and the constant you know, constant connection that we have, which is kind of a weird oxymoron, because nobody's really connected. But we're online all the time all of that technologies in its infancy, and yet, it's it's spread almost globally. So we haven't really kind of caught up to. It's like those little bird scooters. Do you know what I'm talking about? Have you seen those things around? It's like a little rental scuttle. You've seen him right there nuisance. Everyone's getting an accident falling off of them in breaking their arms, and people getting really hurt and kids, are using them. They shouldn't people should wear helmets. But they won't. But because they came out so fast and penetrated the culture so quickly became almost ubiquitous overnight. There's no laws against like, there's no, there's no way to legislate him the police, and everybody are kind of wrong-footed, because they're just like, well, what do we are they motor vehicles? Are they? Bikes. What are they are you allowed to write him on sidewalks should only be? We don't know because we don't have any, the, the legislative capacity is, is too slow to catch up to how fast this technology has disseminated into the culture same thing social media. Nobody knows what to do with it. Talk about people getting their lives, you know, kind of hacked by third party players that are nefarious or whatever and their personal photographs splashed up for everyone to see in laugh at point at and judge in ridicule and everything and you go. Well, that's not fair. And then the argument is, well, you shouldn't you shouldn't take a picture, if you don't want it to be seen by everyone. It's like well, that's not true at all. That doesn't make sense at all. So there's a lot of like stuff that I don't think we've caught up to as a society of on what's right and what's wrong, but I think I think it will correct. Think it definitely will. Georgia yell at can we just take a minute to mention that innovative product cold molecule, I'd love that, yes? The only air purifier. The actually destroys pollutants. I didn't know that traditional air purifiers were bad. Yes, they are. Yes. But no molecule. They eliminates allergens mold by Tiriac, viruses, and airborne chemicals. We actually have tried a Mullah q. Yeah. What do you think it's a very, please eighties? A beautiful thing, and it glues. Nice blue glow in your corner. One customer, even said she was able to breathe through her news. 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Jodi do Ohgushi is talking about how she accidentally convinced Chris channel Reuter Donahue that she was right for the rule so MIM one of my best minutes, Rachel Donut ammos, from Sheffield list, why I can say in another very kind of strange and all the accent. But she wrote directed unedited film that we like I in that we made. But before we made it, we made a short film of it called emotional fusebox the film's out life skills. If the shot was emotional fusebox to, to kind of go well, basically for finance in should never directed anything. So we need the needed station could do it. And it was never meant to be a show to develop into a feature. The feature script was already there. So the so even before the shot got nominated for buffed. Oh, so well done next to that, that we were already shoot in the feature, I shall Russia four weeks after finish season. Two. Broacher. So I on a train was show, we, when did you go to Harvard to do that thing with the bull? No man made abroad church book that, yes. A we approach book launch because in Harrogate we were on a train journey back and oversea. I'm so shy inquire does bake to listen to the entire time. And not only that made him watch his show on a like watched him. Watch it right. Ten minutes. L won't it will at twenty five minutes just a couple of hours. Did you stare at mossy worst? We realized the eastern places. But then afterwards e said in an interview to the New York Times, no less the that, that was actually the first connection he thought. Oh energies within the political nece. I was essential to grumpy teenager. Royalty in it ROY always playing the grumpy teenage Povey personalities and it was daft in the sense. It was emotional, though, because it was about twin loss. Of course, it walls, ROY don't do anything without your so he's about twin lawsuit was emotional. But it was it was a twin. It was a comedy about twin. Awesome. It was really tough. Sal. So. But there was that kind of quickness to it the immense we that he saw reside to me that hadn't necessarily played before in. That's because to not knows me really well. And she wrote a version of amalgamating, basically of Mehan, her a knowing each other, so, well, we will kind of another character is a mix of owes. So I think it was kind of the first time I've ever played that close to myself, Gordon Brown. Georgia. Yes, we like him. He was prime minister of Great Britain of time of the great financial crash of two thousand eight. Yeah, you have to make some big decisions. Indeed it. But it's also something Sarah said to me that you, you said to her on several occasions that you could do the right thing you could do the popular. This, this is this is what I feel about the financial crisis in two thousand nine I do think we were doing the right thing. And I think I think history will actually prove we did the right thing, but I couldn't get my message across so it wasn't popular and I, I don't know I could have done about it. Because if people are not listening or e can't get a, a message across on the nineteen thirties use this analogy when I write about it. Franklin Roosevelt was the president of the United States of America. And he had the financial crisis, and he went out onto radio and give broadcasts at peak a radio, can you imagine me giving broadcast peak out television coming at breaking into strictly come dancing, your the aspect, too? And he was giving his broadcast about what to do joing the recession, but he managed to find a way of getting across. Two people and explain what was happening because I kept feeling connects blame this to people. This is a Bank as China, do best, but we've gotta run a deficit to get this, because we've got to get back to growth is Creighton as possible, and I could never find vehicle for getting my message across. I mean radio doesn't work television. Wasn't the in a way the social media was just starting off. But it wasn't really great. You know, two thousand eight nine it wasn't as strong as it is now, and I felt so for straighted I couldn't get my message across and I felt we were doing the right things, but they wouldn't popular I still had to do the right things. And did you feel that offense on the one hand to do and government take that, that, that make the right decision rather than the well, I think you do. Obviously to win an election. You you've got to you've to make promises that you, you keep and make promises that people can can can relate to. But sometimes, you know, we raised taxation to pay for the national health service, people said, we couldn't do it. They said that the public will not accept big rice, and taxation to pay for the hell sevice, but we went over way, because about two years to persuade people to do it. So you start off with what you think is right. And then you say, well, we'll people, you know, feel that this is the right thing to do if you can explain it to them, and I think, in the health services case we did explain to people, you know, at the moment, we've got a pending crisis in aisles f is now I think it's not underfunded. And you've got to go out there and explain to people these difficult decisions. But if you want a decent health service, you've got Eka have the money coming into Bill to, to do it. So you start at by think wanting to do the right thing. And if you can persuade people, but in politics, you've got to persuade people. And if you don't persuade people you're. Sheen again, talking a ho- acting and being scared. Go hand in hand. Would you see? That's true. Oh, no. It's been a while while less you from Michael, every single performance, I've done of any play, I'm terrified before going, but presumably you from what you're saying you realize you have to be. On your sort of. Yeah, yeah. But I feel like that's out of my control. Anyway. I just I'm terrified. I remember working with Declan Donnellan, who. Run the company called cheap by jowl, and I did a play with them failure on after leaving school ad. I remember him talking about the idea of. That when you're on stage. It makes it is in itself. Such vulnerable situation to be got people what everyone assumes that act as a big show off love the attentional like it was, I you know, I'm sure that is an aspect of it. But it's Mike experience. It is terrifying. If you actually take on board, the reality that you have all these people watching you and you have to give this performance, it was easier when I was younger, I sort of, you know, just had the kind of ignorance really of, of youth. And inexperience just kind of went out there and gave it blazing guns as I've got older and you start to become a bit more aware of what's actually going on. It becomes release Gary and, and. And remember deck. And talking about the idea that. As an actor you as a human being. You will do whatever it takes to, to protect yourself from vulnerability, if you're if you're under, but if you feel exposed than you will do whatever you can you'll natural tendency will be to cover up that exposure to, to, to, you know, you don't wanna show weakness because then you can be you can be hooked by it. And the, the, the pure act of being onstage is active under ability, and you have to be really Catholism ACTA, but you don't start to do things in order to, to, to protect yourself from that vulnerability. Because it is that very vulnerability that is compelling to an audience that is, well, I mean, it's what we just talked about that feeling of it's not a pleasant feeling to be vulnerable, but that I've come to recognize that, that is the kind of good stuff. That's the tile area to be in. But everything you do will try and get in the way of that, because it's unpleasant. So I'm David mama talks about this as well about pausing actors will always. Pulls. There's something inside you. While I recognize this. There's something inside you. That goes, I'm not ready to say. Yeah, I'm not feeling. I'm not feeling that I'm not an I remember Declan talked about this as well. If you wait until you're ready. You will never say the line. And there's a it's almost like that. The, the thing that Eric Bristow apparently had the does play where he couldn't let go of the dot that you've got to a point, it was like the equivalent of stage fright or whatever where he would go to throw the. Any couldn't let go of it, and I think it's called the and I totally recognized as an actor as well. The idea of I'm not I'm not emotionally in the right place to say this lying, and you and you can imagine just not being able to say boy, and I think that's the tendency that actors can have to, to pose a lot is because you somehow going, I'm not quite ready and Declan remember, saying, forget, you never, it's after pretending it's to fish, you will never be ready. You will never be emotionally in the perfect place to say this. So just let go and mama. I'm sort of I may be no saying the declins and it was actually the idea of the principal goal. I wasn't. Yeah. Yeah, go the idea of being too precious about the Wook and then somehow, you know, it is about totally letting go, and I've realized that not just about acting, but about life, generally, is it takes such kind of bravery to, to let go of stuff the matters. I mean, it's easy to let go. So maybe don't give a shit. It's when something really matters to whatever it is whatever your job is what whether it's you know, as an actor in its you really care about what you're doing. And you've, you've built up this life and of the character on, it's come to make connections with you and your life and the stakes are really high and all incredibly meaningful insignificant. And then you just have to let it go on it's the same life. You know, like I mean, you know, you and I oppose kids and the idea of children growing up on you. You sort of micromanaging, their life and control. And then you have to go and yet it's the thing that means the most to you in the world, do you, how do you do that? I started to realize that's an on that was what Declan was talking about. I realize now that idea of. Everything you do will be there will be a tendency towards Puna, little buffer between you and the good stuff and your job as an actor in a way is to is to strip things way. I always thought it was about adding things on lightly Livia with the nose and the wag the funny walk in. And actually, I've come to realize that it's more about stripping things away. When people talk about sculptures already existing in the block of marble and the sculptors job is just to release it just to get rid of stuff to show the actual sculpture. That's in that come to think of acting much more like that, that the that somehow that first time you read the script the first time you connect with the with the story and the character, it then exists inside you than all the work is about just stripping everything away. Just allow that to come through as opposed to building it up by better as time goes on. Samantha b made a name for herself. Doing some very bold interviews on the daily show. Oh, very bold, asking the unanswerable questions of some very powerful people. Did you have a chicken? I did you ever get? I just I can't. I know the question to ask. But I'm too scared. No. I don't think so. I'm the guy ever really chicken. I think some things that. You know, there's no, I never chicken Dow, I will say that there were times when I would pivot because often in this world, you, you receive a research, packet, or you think that you've researched something. And you've gotten all this material from the researchers and everybody's feels very solid on what the sequence of events was, and you get into the interview and realized this is all wrong. It did not happen this way, this person is this person did this thing because another thing because there's an underlying factor that nobody took into account, and then it's just not appropriate to ask, though. She's sometimes you'd think I came here to, to expose this truth as I'm talking to, I'm really I'm realizing, this is not as role. Yes, we've got it wrong. And so, of course, in that moment, I would not. But I don't think that's chickening out. I just think that's smart being human being. So, yes, there, lots of pivots for sure. Right. But if I felt you know if I was right and felt strongly about something. No, I never it out. But. I was terrified all the time. Yeah. For sure. And I still interviewing people is very nervous and she's very nerve wrack terrified. I use should be super. But if she's basically, you're going up against pompous people, which a lot of times what you were doing. Your lack shadow was pompous balloons. I sure people tend to be quite pleased with themselves. And therefore, I, imagine you would experience people getting quite annoyed it. You people did get people ever get did you ever fear for your safety? Never fear for my safety. I definitely would observe watch people get angrier and angrier which thinking this is working on the gas up. Yeah. Linking fade. Really good. But I think what happened a lot of times is that. The just opened up to me more, because I'm the little woman talking to them. So the felt you know, people would get people are quite arrogant about their opinions as well. Even if their opinions are based on thing, and so they just all terrible, but they trusted me, the trusted that they could open up to me more, and they could I was thinking that if someone has an opinion about something, and they're trying to change the world to accommodate their opinion about the world. Then they should be willing to hear that opinion, projected back to them. They should be willing to if they're unhappy with how the interview turned out, it's only because the words that they were saying are repellent and there, maybe just tearing them for the first. I mean, Georgia yet you love about it would be goal-bound really do. Yeah. Very thrilled when she agreed to come in the shoe on, here's overnight. Have you always had sort of sense of the world about you, and I have a moral viewpoint as something you've grew up with very, you know, a tape opinion on things or well, I mean my mom was a person who said, you know, this is what's going on in the world. And we'd watch the news and something and, you know, if I thought something about something, and I ask and say, what does this mean what is this? And I you know, I have a fairly. Moral sort of clock that says, you know, there before the grace of God, go is so be careful you know how you respond to be you cannot, like something somebody says, but you don't know that person. Yeah. You know. Yeah. And when you do know that person, then you can say, well, I know that personnel like, what they said. And here's why. Cities among until e. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Then if you're going to have an opinion, the consequence of that is, there are people who are not gonna like it, right. Yeah. So every day half the countries pissed. You know. And that's okay. Yes, again, it's my job to give my opinion. Yeah. Could you get those get quite heated life? You guys, right? Yeah. Do you ever continue bike stage or you'll quite a you'll now because the next thing that you're talking about on any given day is, you know, vaginal implants, ego from, you know, politics to vaginal implants, to whose relationship is what to, you know, how to have a halfway decent orgasm without screaming. We're talking about, you know, the wildest craziest stuff. So, you know, it's never personal and the minute against personal you nip that in the bud. Yeah, you say, hey, is that what you mean? Because that's what it sounded quite good at keeping host keeping between your you have to you have to because, you know you on one hand, you have a media and social. Media that goes beserk they hate each other, and this one hates this one. It's like you're not here. You have no idea what's going on here. And it seems to be only women that they do this with they don't seem to do it with man. Right. You know, five guys, you know, having you know, while they're all opinionated and great with women. It's like. Oh, spare chess. Right. You know, it's like it's kind of like little limited and thanking okay? You know what do you think that is? What do you think? Women get tougher time about that. What, what do we know what do we know like society of women disagree with each other? Well, I think it's, it's more we've seen a lot of movies and television shows where, you know, women, you know, women are talking to each other and suddenly, you have a bunch of chickens. You know, or you get that, that vibe that if you get passionate that you're just, you know, you just need to calm down, like no just we're passionate all you getting hysterical. You know they love to say women are hysterical. Well, sometimes, but MENA hysterical is well, yes, it's something this ascribed to man as now. No. It's never and I don't I'm not sure why that is. But I know that it's probably thousands of years of this, you know, with this is what women on. This is what men are, you know, this is twenty nineteen men and women are really interesting and fluid. And you know, you just never know what you're going to get. So you have to take everybody on an individual basis. I this is my hope. Yeah. Well, that's overnight. Thank you to all the gas to been so onus, so funny, and so open. Thanks you Georgia. You'll very welcome. Thanks to ever know there for listening. It's been a pleasure, cenex time to land to you now. David Tennant does poed cost with is something else. No mystery production for juiced, edited by James deacon. Additional production from Chris Skinner Steve Ackerman. Sarah comment, Joe Gibbs. Dave king, Joel Freeman on Georgia Tennant.