Do Genetics Determine Our Health
Welcome to dishing up nutrition with licensed nutritionists and Dietitians sperm, nutritional weight and wellness. We explain the connection between what you eat and how you feel. Stay tuned for practical realize solutions for healthier living through real food nutrition. Slow down. Too fast. You got to make no mom. Giving brought to you by nutritional weight and wellness is Darlene convinced. About thirty years ago, I started nutritional weight and wellness with very little financial support. And I remember that well I'm sure you do? But with a big desire to help people feel better through their food, choices and lifestyle habits. Then you know about fifteen years ago, we started the dishing up nutrition radio, show and podcast you know I was already at an age when many of my friends were retiring but not. Of course not. I had a strong desire to spread our message of eating real food to all parts of the world. Some people especially my son. Boy laughed at my dream, but I'm happy to say mission accomplished. Absolutely, Dr. we recently received an email from a delightful woman who listens to dishing nutrition from India. Wow, she said, thank you. Your simple message of eating. Real food has changed my life. We'd love hearing though it's life changing stories from our listeners now you kind of know a little bit more about me. People always want to know about me for some reason so now. Let's learn a little bit more about our Co.. Caroline Hudson. She's been registered Dietitian for many many years. She'll probably tell you how many. Caroline and I are the senior members of nutritional weight and wellness team and Caroline hepker passion. Also, she also has a passion for helping people understand the power eating real food. Caroline tell our listeners just a little bit about yourself where you went to school. You know where you've practiced and your favorite. Very. Favorite Hobby Scuba diving right Oh, sure good morning Dr! It's so nice to be here in good morning to all of our listeners out there wherever you are. I actually grew up here in Minnesota, but then I decided to pursue my nutrition degree in Toronto Ontario Canada. So. My careers really been very to say the least I've worked with Canadian in. People in very interest far northern Ontario communities even on an island in the middle of Hudson's Bay. I had to take a big. I had to take a plane while like a little plane. Had Skis on it was in the middle of winter we landed on. In the middle of Hudson's Bay, it was frozen over, and then I voted into a big huge bombrdier like a big ski do. Took me to the hospital there. So you don't care on. My first degree was in anthropology I didn't know that I would love that. This faster. Yes, fascinating! I actually got stuck there in a snowstorm for four days, but That was just one thing that I think. but I also had the opportunity to be the senior director for very large medical system. It included a large teaching hospital so I had a dietetic internship program underneath me and did I had a senior living center I had a nursing home and another small community hospital. Wow, so that was a huge system and lots of different employees and lots of different unions. So that was that was very interesting, but more recently yeah I. Got Certified as a will coach Okay and now I have. Really, this is my dream job. Good. You know the wonderful nutritionists Dietitians that I get to work with to work with you It's just it's been a dream. Come true because I really wanted to get back to helping people on one and as senior director. I never got to know that. Yes I was managing people from. Wasn't doing nutrition really. So now I. Get to do that. And then as you mentioned before one of my hobbies is scuba diving. I love the water anything to do with scuba diving and I started to go down to visit my brother every winter. He lives in Cozumel and I thought. I am going to get certified to dive. I'm watching all these down there so now I love it I love the underwater life, and all the beauty of the coral and the fish and everything. It's really great, so if you make an appointment with caroline. You got a lot of interesting thing to set. You got talk about. So now today, let's go on with our topic, you know. Do Your genetics determine your health? That's an interesting question. Actually many of our clients say you know. My Dad had diabetes so I know I will have diabetes, too, so stop and think about that too freely. Believe that statement here's another one. We hear all the time. My mother has has or had Alzheimer's. So. I'm worried I'll get Alzheimer's one day. So is Alzheimer a genetic. Disease Or is it linked to our food and lifestyle habits? MELVA is a new thought for a lot of people I know it really is and I hear the same things. I don't WanNa get diabetes because you know my mother, my father, my brother, or whatever has it so most people do think it's more genetic right, so many of my clients also have a fear of Parkinson's because grandfather had Parkinson's. So many more cases of Parkinson's right now. Yes, yeah, I've really been seeing that. one other common belief I hear from clients is my grandmother had arthritis? Yes, so I know. I'M GONNA end up with arthritis so I want you to ask yourself does every common chronic disease come from genetics? What do you think? What we're going to explore this a little bit more, you know about fifteen years ago. I attended a seminar where the pleasure of hearing Dr Jeffrey Bland make this statement. Ninety percent of our health is from our food choices in lifestyle habits and ten percent is from our genetics. And I sat back, and I said really. I remember this very well. You you may be wondering well. Who is Dr Jeffrey Bland? If you've never heard of him, we WANNA share a little bit about his life. In some some remarkable achievements, Dr Jeffrey Bland is known as the father of functional medicine, which is kind of a medical approach that focuses on prevention and treatment of chronic diseases Dr Bland with a university biochemistry. Professor. He served as the nutritional research director of Linus Pauling, institute, science and medicine, and he's the CO founded the Eunice the Institute for Functional Medicine. You know in addition to a superior intellect. I mean amazing intellect in knowledge Dr. Bland really has a lot of good heart. Yes, got a lot of feelings for people. You know Dr i WanNa just emphasize what you said. Earlier that ninety percent of our health is from our food, choices and lifestyle habits, and only ten percent is from our genetics. From Dr Jeffrey Bland. That is amazing, yes. I don't think I think most people think it's the exact opposite right I agree yeah, but in one thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, two, thousand, fourteen on starting to age myself. I Dr Jeffrey Bland wrote the book the Disease Delusion, conquering the causes of chronic illness for a healthier longer and happier life in this book. He explained that we have two different types of ellen illnesses. One type of disease comes from an infection, bacteria or virus, right? And until recently with the onset of Covid nineteen, these diseases were basically controlled with medication. Such as around of antibiotics or from a vaccine right, many of those with these medications, fewer people actually died of an infection and life was pretty good, right, yeah, and then along came a variety of chronic diseases. These chronic conditions and illnesses that make you sick. And rarely, if ever go away, that's an interesting way to think about who. In a once. You have they beatty's. Boy. You have to work really hard to get rid of it. So what are some of these diseases type two diabetes? Gout high blood pressure dementia. Autoimmune Diseases Arthritis MS, autism depression adhd, asthma, chronic fatigue, syndrome, FIBROMYALGIA, macular degeneration cancer, and the list goes on and on and on doesn't guy catch what? Did you fit into one of those categories. Yeah, that's amazing. That list is really long of those chronic. Yup. Diseases and we work with a lot of those people that have chronic diseases So why do we call these chronic diseases? A chronic illness does not heal by itself, and sadly a chronic illness usually gets worse over time Interesting to think about that can be really hard so typically a chronic disease does not have a single cause. Plus a chronic disease. Chronic illness tends to have more complex symptoms. So do you have one of these chronic diseases? What I found to be really shocking. Is that forty percent of Americans now have some type of chronic disease and darts time for our first break already. You are listening to dishing up. Nutrition brought to you by nutritional weight and wellness, because of covid nineteen everyone, nutritional weight and wellness continues to practice. All of the recommended safety procedures are nutrition consultations are being conducted by phone or through a live video appointments. Rather than in person you can make an appointment either by phone at six, five, one, six, nine, nine, three, four, three, eight or online at weightandwellness dot com if you have questions about. About how Nutricia may help you at this particular time, just call us or email us. Perhaps you even have a question about your health insurance coverage coming in for an appointment or even about an ingredient one of our recipes. We're going to be very happy to talk to you on the phone and answer all of your questions, so give us a call at six, five, one, six, nine, nine, three, four, three eight, and we'll be right back. Welcome back to dishing up nutrition. No this past week I had a call from a client I worked with maybe three or four years ago, and then out of the blue, she sat up an appointment to see me and after all these years, so he had wonder. Why did she set up an appointment? No, she had not fallen off of a real food plan. She is thinking about having a baby in the next two to three years in wants to make sure her nutrition will. Provide the best support for her pregnancy. That is so cool yet I said you are one smartly. Yes, because we read about this all the time, don't want caroline. Ancient cultures understood how important good nutrition was for a healthy pregnancy and for healthy baby. So many of our nutritionists Dietitians have first hand knowledge of how to provide the best support throughout the pregnancy in early childhood, feeding many of our young nutritious have one or two or three or four. So let us know if you would like to meet with one of our nutrition experts to learn how good nutrition will help, you have a healthy pregnancy and a healthy baby. I think it's so neat that people are thinking this way now. Yes, yeah, so just call her office at six, five, one, six, nine, nine, three, four, three, eight, set up an appointment. That's convenient to you and ask your questions. So before we went to break I was saying that we found it shocking that forty percent of Americans now have some type of chronic disease. That's a lot four to Lucette so. GonNa, think about this. Here's a question for you. Does forty percent of the population having chronic disease caused by their genetics, or is there something else going on? You know in the one thousand nine hundred. Two of the chronic diseases that everybody seems like they get. Cancer Heart Disease. It count accounted for about eighteen percent of the population of the deaths of popular of the death, actually eighteen percent of the death. Now in the last old hundred, one hundred twenty years, the percentage of desk from chronic disease has jumped to sixty three percent. Wow, they went from eighteen percent up to sixty three percent. So that's not chanel. So, perhaps chronic diseases, such as diabetes and Heart, disease and Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. And other auto immune diseases are not from our genetics, but rather from our lifestyle habits I think with cove in nineteen were hearing that more and more and more. Yes, yeah, yeah! I was listening to NPR special. I think it was just yesterday, and they were really talking about that and merely know trying to explain no, it's not you know these chronic diseases or people that have these conditions and are more susceptible to getting really ill with covert nineteen. It's that they've got these chronic diseases. You know more about their lifestyle and how how? They've gotten to that plane place. So how are chronic diseases related to lifestyle habits? Let's look at the relationship of genetics and lifestyle habits another way. Think about the autoimmune condition called Celia busies. I'm sure many of you remember Cassie. She's one of our frequent co host on the show, and she mentioned that she has a gluten sensitivity, but her son actually has celia disease. Sealy Act. Disease is considered a genetic condition. But. It only when gluten is actually. Interesting. Yes, so if they didn't eat gluten, even though they they are CEAC. Yes, they will not. experienced the symptoms so and I hope I don't. Mess this name op-ed. Dr Leo Fasano. A. Pediatric gastroenterologist and director of the Center for a senior research explains it this way. Some individuals carry the genes that increase the susceptibility to see seal EAC, but those individuals carrying the genes will not experience the disease, unless or until they actually eat gluten. Isn't that NEAT? That's kind of an interesting thing, isn't it? Yes, yeah, it really is you have that genetic? Condition. But if you don't eat that product, you don't get it. Yeah I think you know and I. I haven't really talked to cassie about this when her son was diagnosed, but I. do know that you know as a baby. You're not given gluten right away. You know. Aren't you? Hopefully you're being breastfed and and so there's no gluten, but once that child is introduced who those week products are cereals or whatever it happens to be. Yep, then they start experiencing the symptoms, and there's a failure to thrive usually in most cases when it's true, sealy acted as. So when these individuals do eat gluten, gluten actually becomes a toxin in their body and creates chaos. If, they only eat wild rice. That contains no gluten. No chaos is created in the body, and therefore there's really no damage that gets done so because caroline wanted to take that. When you are working in the roots, Roommate Romo Romell rollout I'll get there villages. I, if they had a silly ag gene. And they didn't eat that. They were okay right right. Interesting But you know if they do eat a slice of Brad especially like whole wheat Tur- a wheat bread the gluten in that bread becomes a toxin, and that's going to havoc in their body, Dr Fasano example of about seal EAC disease explains why we may have a genetic susceptibility to the to the disease, but. It is our lifestyle and eating habits that actually pull that trigger and create that chaos in our body, so I have a personal example of being susceptible to type two diabetes. You know my mother was diabetic and I believe her father. My grandfather was diabetic and one of my brothers is diabetic. Another hand in my early twenties I decided I was not going to become diabetic and. Now, I'm eighty two and I'm not and I have never been a better. That's because I got serious about my attrition and I mean. I'm very serious about this and I do check. My blood sugars all the time and at all the things that you need to do so. This was before you became a nutritionist. Yes, way before. Yes, so I think that's really important. For people to hear that that you took this action. Before you knew. Were all the things you know now about nutrition and you were able to change that course of action. Right and hey, it hasn't been easy. No, no! So, You know so really I was determined not to. Be Come type I have become type two diabetic I'm you know you know so even sixty years ago? I honestly understood the relationship between eating sugar. And Process CARBS I. Don't know how I did knew that you know wasn't in my college classes for sure. So it, but it was just living with my parents and my mom, and knowing the things, so so sugar and process carbs increase the risk of type two diabetes I mean I think we all know that you know I'm sure I have that genetic predisposition or vulnerability, a being diabetic, but consciously I chose not to go there you know, and I believe many of us have a genetic susceptibility to chronic disease, but it is what we choose to put into our malls that will determine if we get one or of these conditions I think we must have a where you're listening to dishing up nutrition. If you're struggling with joint discomfort, I want you want success. 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I shop at the grocery store like everybody else sang. You eat out with your friends. I do I might add it my meal a little bit, but I'm still out at the bars and restaurants with all my friends and family could nutritional weight and wellness help you like they helped anesthesia. You can check them out at weight and wellness, dot, com, or give them a call. Six, one, six, nine, nine, three, four, three eight. DISHING UP, nutrition, Don't last night I was on the phone with my seventeen year old granddaughter willow, yet of course I think she's special. She's my granddaughter cars. So I asked her, do you listen to podcasts? And she said I listen to podcasts all the time. So then I asked her. Do you listen to the dishing up nutrition podcast? That she's sensitive to gluten grains. And I thought a little education goes a long way, she said. Is Your podcast on spotify. Yes it is. Then we'll all replied. Okay. I will listen you know I think any of our dishing up nutrition podcast would be a great way for you to help your kids or your entire family. Get some real food nutrition education. So if you do that, let me know how it goes. Yeah, yeah, I have clients that. Say that they turn it on and listen especially. When they're making a meal, or whatever and the kids will come in, and of course, they'll. Listen a little bit. Exactly. Let anybody will listen. Tell exactly. So before we went to break, we were talking about. Type two diabetes. We talk about at that a lot. and blood sugar problems, and they've been in the news a lot lately. Because of covid nineteen, because people with diabetes face a higher chance of experiencing some of those serious complications from covid nineteen. When diabetics do not manage their diabetes well, and they experienced that roller coaster blood sugar. They are generally at a higher risk for a number of diabetes related complications, so what we do and what we each impact how our genes express themselves. Either in a positive manner. or in negative manner, okay, so let's. Let's dig in a little bit more on this topic Judith finalists, and and she was actually on our show one time. She's the author of your. What your grandparents eight said a very nicely I. Love the way she wrote while our. DNA doesn't change but stressors. Including poor nutrition, so she connects poor nutrition was a stressor. When, you have poor nutrition, it can spark a reaction the change Howard. Genes express themselves increasing the risk for a wide variety of content, chronic diseases. You know from Heart, disease and diabetes to all kinds of cancer Yeah, it's amazing, so let's go back to the thoughts and writings of Dr Jeffrey Bland, he said, according to the world. Health Organization the cost of chronic disease will hit. Get this two hundred billion dollars. By the year twenty thirty. That's not very. Let's ten years from now. Yes, two, hundred billion, and as mostly due to heart, disease type, two diabetes, chronic respiratory diseases like asthma or chronic kidney, disease, cancer and dementia, and who would ever think of connecting dementia with their nutrition Gal Bright. I. It's amazing. Yes, so it may surprise you to learn that dementia may be the most costly. Of all chronic diseases and I can understand that. Yes, you know so. In Two thousand twelve over two hundred billion dollars was spent in the US on research to find a way to treat dementia, but Yet no effective drug for the management of the dementia has been developed. On the other hand. There's a lot of research of Friday. Clinical studies indicate that lifestyle changes can improve mental functioning. You know even right here in our state, a study by the male clinic fallen that early intervention to stop negative lifestyle habits. And replace them with positive lifestyle habits. The lays the onset of dementia. So you know if you're eighty two and you don't get it for another twenty years. You're pretty pretty say. Why can look at my mom? She's ninety two. She's not experiencing any signs of dementia. Memory loss or anything? Beautiful. That's right. I. Want a beer. So. I've been teaching nutrition for about forty years. And, I believe more people are starting to connect the reality. That to have the best health possible they need to eat real food and by real food I mean like protein from some of those grass fed animals, vegetables, not so much the bread or rolls and good natural, fat butter, Olive, oil and avocado oil and coconut oil. That's just to name a few, and they really do need to avoid those refined damage fats such as soybean, oil, corn, oil, cottonseed, oil, or canola oil, all of those are highly processed and refined, so we call those damage fats don't. But you know what came into my mind. When I was when you were talking about that. I was thinking of the people that drive through the fast food restaurants and get French fries Oh, and have you seen the lines at fast food restaurants lately? Oh my goodness, so you know that French fries are cooked probably in either soybean, oil or corn oil, and the oil is used over and over and over and then potatoes. If you have a little bit of potato. That's okay but French fries. You probably have. For a French fries turn into sugar I mean that's something that people just don't get. Yeah. Fries turn into sugar. I had a friend asked me once. To what what how much sugar is in this and I said Oh. You really don't want. I will tell you. To French fries, going to equal about a teaspoon of sugar. So. You know and then it's cooked and bad fat. No. Too much sugar too much bad, fat, bad free rein right Sibley. Yeah, very simple, so there are more than hundred confirmed autoimmune diseases well hundred. That's amazing, actually about fifty billion or million fifty million people merican suffer from at least one auto immune disease. So maybe ask you a question. Listeners, are you one of those who suffer from an auto immune disease? You know in comparison and I love this twelve million Americans are suffering from cancer. Twenty five million from heart disease. This baby, he'll little hard for people to believe but auto immune diseases directly the ring linked. The Diet and lifestyle habits, and of course it's linked to heart disease in a link to type two diabetes. All linked to our diet and lifestyle habit. Yeah, back to that ninety percent right is diet and lifestyle, and only ten percent of genetic, so if we could really derived point. To listeners. Maybe. We. Will you know? An interest and then help people make that conscious decision. That they are not going to go down that path if they have that genetic susceptibility to serve kind of disease, and all we have to do is look at what our parents and grandparents had and we know we might have that susceptibility, but we don't have to go down there path. Yeah, no, we don't so. It's really about what we are choosing to eat for the most part that's oddly lifestyle habit you know I choose to eat real proteins, healthy proteins usually from grass fed. Animals. I choose lots of vegetables. Lots and lots of vegetables, and I choose healthy fats so a good protein, good carbs, those vegetable carbs and healthy fats. Now I bet caroline I. Bet your mommy that way, too. Yeah, yeah, she absolutely does that. She's ninety two lives in her own home Doesn't have any help. Takes Care of other people. Yes Oh my gosh. I can't I just she's she's one. Amazing woman I gotta say that. I. She should come and teach some of our classes. She didn't come and sit in on. One of my classes not that long ago and she really enjoyed. It was really I was really happy to have her in my audience day. So in reality, autoimmune diseases are caused by a confused immune system. That's interesting way to think about that isn't that? Researchers believe that three key factors may be involved. The first factor is that you may have this genetic susceptibility. But you don't have to go down that path. Secondly you may get an infection, or you may experience some kind of environmental trigger, such as eating gluten, or or in a what Carolina was when I when you were saying that one of the things that I was thinking. Is You know the stress that people have been going through lately might be enough of a tricker environmental tricker. Yes, no I think you mentioned something about people that are in a long term facilities, and they've had no visitors, and our people dying of loneliness. Yeah, you know so you. That's what we mean by environmental triggers or conditions. Yeah and I think it's really important to think back I know whenever I get an autoimmune disease person. I always ask. When did this start? And how do you think it started and we usually can trigger. Go back to an infection. Or some kind of trigger. So. It's already time for third. Break here. Okay, so you are listening to dishing up nutrition next Saturday I think many of you may want to tune in because car and Melanie will be sharing valuable information about incontinence, nearly half of the women over age fifty experience urine leakage, but haven't shared their problem with their doctor or probably anyone else. incontinent seems to be a hidden condition. So tell your friends about the show because they may be experiencing the same problem and we will be right back. Well welcome back to dishing up nutrition. Yesterday I read that sixty five percent of the US population fear. Getting covid nineteen. I can't believe that. I can to as you know, that's a lot, but so you have to ask yourself. What can you do to support your immune system? So we thought which share a few things that we have recommend to our clients I. Say Make Sure Your Vitamin D.. Level is sixty or above. Now that's pretty high, but it's protective. A sufficient level of vitamin. D is really critical for a well-functioning brain. And Body and Dr I read that on the Scandinavian countries. Who all take a vitamin D supplement You know because they're pretty far north Yep. they are, they are less affected and the less severe cases of Covid nineteen and they're speculating as because they take vitamin. D supplements in their vitamin D. level is I so you know that's easy. That's a no brainer. Yeah, just get some and we live in Minnesota. We don't get enough sun exposure, so so the other thing to do is to eat twelve fourteen ounces, equality, protein and quality protein build your immune function. And it supports your moods and your memory. So here's another one I recommend taking. Supplements. Three bifida balanced capsules three times a day. Three before breakfast three before lunch and three. Before you go to bed, you know a good immune system starts in your gut wrenching intestinal track. Yeah and then sleep seven and a half to nine hours most nights yet and I've been hearing. People are getting a little more asleep this time, so I think that that's good. Also, you need to eliminate or avoid eating high sugar processed foods. you may want to bake brownies or chocolate chip cookies, but then eating them can actually reduce your immune system for several hours. You should also think about eating frequently I say eat four to six times a day to maintain that balance blood sugar high blood sugars out risk factor as we already talked about that type, two diabetes or diabetes It's a risk factor for a complications. If you do get covert nineteen. And take about four hundred to six hundred milligrams of magnesium glycemic daily at Bedtime I. Love My Meg. Even think about going to bed without it. And then taking extra vitamin C., you could take three thousand to five thousand milligrams. Daily to help with that immune system, so these are just a few of the things that we recommend people. There are many other ways to support your immune function such as avoid drinking alcohol, because you know what realistically alcohol is not a health food, so it is now time to be very proactive if we have to really get with this. In caring for your body, your brain in your overall health. This is a great time to focus on this and I know. Some of my clients really have taken this seriously. Yes, they're really focusing on it. So before we went to break. We're talking about the three different factors that can lead to an autoimmune disease. The first one is your genetics. You have a genetic predisposition, and then you can. The second one would be a trigger like it could be an infection or an environmental trigger like stress that we were talking about and the third factor is your diet and lifestyle. So. If we really get honest with ourselves, everyone of us. Has a tremendous amount of control over what we eat and how we live. That's A. That's an interesting thought for people I. We all know that a lack of sleeping five hours or less. A night has been associated with development of Alzheimer's disease. But some people still resist developing the eight hour a night's sleep hammock. Yeah, I still have clients say Oh, no I've never slept eight hours. I only need like five yeah. I try my best to convince them. And usually they come along, but it it takes awhile right so most of the diseases that land people in the hospital or that results in disability, our lifestyle are food related again back to that ninety percent. Sadly, most diseases associated with ageing are also derived from eating bad food back processed foods, a junk food, or the standard American Diet you know. When will we start realizing that? Perhaps the most powerful medicine in the world is food. Yes there are inflammatory foods such as sugar and bread and OATMEAL and pizza chips and wine beer, popcorn bagels, food brownies. The list is endless, and you know what you just said. OATMEAL OATMEAL I think that always shocks people yeah well. We eaten too much of it. Maybe. A little bit might be okay, but people are generally eating too much. It used to be one of my favorite foods. So I, don't I really don't eat meal anymore at all. you know it's another hand. There are foods. We consider to be anti inflammatory, so we want to concentrate on those foods. Some of these foods and we've talked about this. Many times is like grass fed meats while caught fish, vegetables, vegetables, vegetables, and more vegetables. Plus healthy fats like butter, olive oil coconut oil. Avocados aloes coconut milk key avocado oil. All are great fats to work with Some of you may remember Dr Barry Sears. He's the author of the zone which he wrote thirty years ago thirty years ago. Wow, I, remember him. Saying food is the most powerful drug we will encounter. You just heard what Dr. Berry Sears wrote thirty years ago and you know what we say every single week on dishing up nutrition so eating real food is not new a new concept to all of you listeners out there. It's still stands as the most powerful thing available to us. More powerful than any drug that has ever been developed I think that a major concept to think about. Food what you put in your mouth? Is More powerful any medicine? The they have developed at this point, and that certainly is for covid nineteen. You know they're struggling with something for that and they haven't been very successful in finding anything it and most of the drugs I feel that are out there. Aren't really. They're not curing the underlying problem right now. They're just in many cases like Harper medication. They just masking the problem and causing a whole nother set of problems down the road so even if you think going back to that whole story about. silly act disease. If people don't eat gluten. They don't continue to damage their intestinal track right exactly. So I think that kind of wraps it up for us today darker. It's been a great great show. I think so our goal here. At nutritional weight and wellness is to help each and every person experienced better health through eating real food. It's a simple yet message. EAT eating real food. Is Life Changing, so thank you all for joining us today. Be well and be safe Kirwin. Thank you. It was a great show. 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