Goodell: We,the National Football League,believe Black Lives Matter
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Most people never do in their lives. They're also putting themselves at greater risk from a virus that's already killed one hundred nine thousand people in this country, a virus, which is still here still transmittable. Transmittable still killing people all around the world that is how urgently people want real and lasting change in the wake of George Floyd's killing by police nearly two mondays ago so badly they want an end toward has been a long running and deadly injustice to African. Americans in this country, and to redeem the country's long-standing promise of equal justice under the law, because you cannot have law and order without equal justice under the law and polling shows a majority of Americans. Most of whom you do not see marching. Agree with them the question tonight. How will those who? Hold Power respond to the calls for change keeping them honest events have shown. The answer is mixed at best and something else entirely at the very top. Today. The Minneapolis City Council, pending the final, okay from a judge approved an agreement boring police from using neck restraints choke holes New York's Governor Andrew Cuomo today announced a new police reform bill that he said would bring more accountability and transparency to law enforcement at the same time and remember. This is in the middle of a national protests over police brutality. We've continued to see instances of police hitting people with batons, not when they were under threat or provoked just because they could, and we've seen moments like this. Police in Buffalo, knocking seventy five year old man to the pavement, leaving him lying there with head injuries that sent him to the hospital by contrast. We've also seen police doing their jobs responsibly and someplace you've been taking a knee with protesters or Houston's police chief with protesters cheerfully recounting George Floyd's last moments. In all whether it's the rank and file their bosses, our elected officials higher up. There has been a spectrum of responses over the last eleven days. Who are very top that is not the case today. The country got some good news. The economy gained about two million jobs out of about twenty million loss, since the pandemic, which clearly a ways to go, but his progress on the economic front, and the president understandably wanted people to know it. In impromptu press conference he held this morning. He wanted people to know a lot of things. He did a victory lap on the economy on the pandemic on the Veterans Bill. He keeps climbing only he could get past, even though passed in two thousand and fourteen the seats by the way we're deliberately not read for social distancing, because in the words of the deputy press secretary. It looks better. So, much for all those warnings by Dr Couch Dr Burks in the coronavirus task force. President has clearly decided the viruses not a winning topic for him anymore. The event began at ten thirty just to give you some idea of what the president's priorities are. After eleven days of these stunning protests the day after memorial services for George Floyd. It took him twenty two minutes to mention Mr Floyd and this is how he chose to do it. Here's what he said. We also what happened last week? We can't let that happen. Hopefully Georgia's looking down right now and say this a great thing that's happening for our country. There's a great day for him. It's a great day for. Everybody. This is a great day for everybody. This is a great great day. In terms of equality. It's really what our constitution requires, and it's what our country is all abet. Not Mr Floyd George. Floyd not the Brotherhood body. His sister will have over tomorrow in North. Carolina, not the friend and community member who has memorialize yesterday Minneapolis, not the longtime neighbor who will be laid to rest in Houston next week. The president said nothing about that nothing about the fact that an ex police officer is charged with murdering him and three others were betting that murder. He couldn't even bring himself to utter the man's full name to grant him merely simple dignity dignity that has been denied two generations of black men and women, no instead today to the president. It was just George. Smiling down from the heavens above happy. What a great day it is! For the injustices leading up to his killing, or how to end them going forward end them for millions of Americans about that the president had nothing to say. I'd like to sign this bill. This very differently and by the way. What's happened to our country? and. What you now see it's been happening is the greatest thing that can happen. Race relations. African American. Asian did. Hispanic American. Women every what our country is so strong. And that's what my plan is. Strongest Economy Worldview. Now! We have the strongest economy anywhere in the world, and that will happen economy that's. Strong sir. How are how? How would a better economy? Yeah just to follow up. How would a better economy had protected George? Floyd sure I'll ask after we take questions after sir. Black unemployment went up by one point. One Percent Asian Americans unemployment one five point five percents. How that victory! Are Something! That's PBS as usual indoor. In case, the president only knows her by her first name. The president had no answer today. When it comes to affecting change or writing systematic injustice, he's made it plain in words and actions that he seems to see this fight for ending racial injustice fight against anarchists in thugs as he says he's made it clear, he sees all this as a chance to divide US further and score points with his base. On orders of his attorney, general peaceful protesters were assaulted and being outside the White House so he could pose with an upside down Bible, and he read in front of church where he doesn't worship on orders of who knows who and accountable to no-one apparently identified armed forces have been broadened at the Capitol and helicopters flew low to intimidate and drive away protesters. All while the president shelters behind a ring of new fencing. Or at one point in the White House bunker, which he claimed, he only went to because he suddenly felt compelled to inspect it. The height of the Vietnam War President Nixon went down to the Lincoln memorial to talk with protesters this president, neither protested the war, nor took part in it. It is his latest actions. Though that persuaded some the military's top retired commanders, including his former defense sector to speak out against him this week, calling him a threat to the constitution calling Monday, perhaps the beginning of the end of the American experiment now whether in fact it is, and we can all hope it is certainly not what happened. There did send a signal by the president's priorities which don't seem to be addressing systematic racial injustice or making policing more accountable. He calls repeatedly on governors who dominate the streets with military force doesn't believe in the peaceful act of taking a knee, which quarterback quarterback drew, brees recently apologized for critical remarks about. The President tweeting today quote we should be standing up straight and tall, ideally with the salute or hand on heart, there are other things you can protest, but not our great American flag note kneeling. For some that might be a deeply held belief, and it is, but does anyone really believe it is for this president or just more red meat for the base? Just moments ago, the NFL commissioner weighed in on the issue and totally changed his position. It seems from just a few years ago. We'll have more on that tonight. Also today Washington mayor, sending a message. She renamed a portion of sixteenth street across from the White House Black Lives Matter Plaza city put up a sign painted and letters big enough to be seen from above whether in the low lying, low, flying military chopper or Air Force One. Joining us now. The mayor of Atlanta Kisha Lance bottoms bombs. Thanks so much for for being with us. I mean at this point. Do you have any confidence that president trump? Will be able to lead the US. Toward the kind of change or lease, even discussed the kind of change. This moment requires. Now Anderson and thank you for having me I. Don't think he's capable of it and I've had to make a conscious decision over the past few days to stop expecting something from him that he's incapable of giving and every minute that I give to Donald. Trump is a minute less than I have to give to people and things that actually matter, and so what I'm encouraged by is when I see. Secretary Mattis and others speaking up when even you see the first lady tweeting things contrary to the hatred and division that the president speaks that encourages me and I hope that we see more of that. When when protesters talk about police, reform and systematic change, and there's a lot of different people from different walks of life who have different ideas about it and exactly what they want to see. What does reform of the criminal justice system of frankly a police departments around the country? What does that look like to you? I think criminal justice reform takes on all different shapes, so in Atlanta we've eliminated cash bail bonds. We're transitioning our jail into a center of equity. We've allocated reallocated a large portion of our corrections department budget towards some equity initiatives, but I also think on the other side of that is actual actual reform. The police department. You know earlier this week President Obama. Put out a call to action to mayors across his country to look at our use of force policies. We are doing that in Atlanta. Sign an executive order to make that happen immediately. So I'm going to receive some recommendations in the next fourteen days, and then we'll take an additional forty five days and get input from the community and begin to move the needle because we don't have time to wait. There, there's been talk of. We've seen reforms in police departments throughout the ages I mean I remember as a kid growing up in New York in the seventies. It was very different. Police Force than it is now. They changed the education requirements for for officers for for police officers who were joining the force, there used to be a lot of corruption in in the police force in terms of bribes and things. Things like that so there we. We have seen systematic changes, but obviously I mean I think everybody agrees more needs to be done. We just even seeing videos of how in some cases and they may be isolated, but we're seeing time and time again. You know officers whacking people with with batons when they don't need to, but they're you know. Maybe it's the emotion of the moment I I'm not sure what's going through their minds or pushing that man down the street or tasing. To college students in a vehicle W- how does police reform actually happened now? Now Anderson it's very frustrating because for every video and tragic story that we see there are still many other stories on the other side of it, so we truly software I who volunteer with our kids in our centers of hope they do a diversity and sensitivity training at the National Center for civil and Human Rights. Their mentoring kids in our police athletically and those stories. Don't get told that what what gets told are the stories where the bad officers do bad things, and it's unfortunate, but I think that's why it's incumbent upon us as leaders to. To make sure that we don't let up and we don't miss this moment and go back to business as usual. We've gotta take a really close. Look at what our policies are. What how are we training these officers? What is their mental and emotional state? Right now I know we have fatigue officers on our streets who are working eighteen hour shifts. Because of what's happening in this country, this does not excuse under any circumstances excessive use of force, but I think it is incumbent upon us to make sure that we had the best and the most. And emotionally fit officers on our forces across this country. New You know there are a lot of protesters out there. Holding up signs, saying de-fund police I talked to the Mayor of Houston this yesterday, and he was saying look that that's frankly the last thing you want to do. you actually want? Better training. You want resources you want you know the best and the brightest that that we that we that we have to be in the police force. While we reallocated money from our corrections budget in the same spirit, but what I know is when my eighteen year old nephew was murdered I call the we call the Atlanta Police, department and they solve the murder. What my house is broken into. We call the police department, so we need police on our streets. We need them in our communities, and we all call upon them at one time or another, but again we can't let these these bad actors overshadow. The partnership we're supposed to have with our police departments. They're not there to be guardians. They're I mean they're not there to be warriors. They're there to protect us and to work alongside us and I think that's a part of the twenty first century policing plan that President Obama. vice-president Biden left on trump's. Alongside the pandemic plan that he never bothered to read. Bottoms I appreciate your time. Thank you. Thank you. Skip perspective, our political commentator, Van Jones and she political analyst. Gloria Borger. Then, when you hear of police reform I'm wondering. What your thoughts are on it. Well listen. Out of this tragedy. Something really extraordinary happening. You're seeing black lives matter rallies. Of A thousand people with only white people at them, holding up signs, saying black lives matter I mean we. We have cross threatful of the NFL Roger Goodell coming out and saying they were wrong in the way, they handled the kneeling protests, the nonviolent kneeling protest. They sure look a lot better now than you know. They were seen as scandalous at the time and he's. He's acknowledging that should have been handled way differently. There are reforms. It could are bipartisan. that. We could get done this year. I guarantee you next next week. You're going to hear a lot of proposals coming out of Congress possibly out of the administration possibly out of governor's offices, saying hey, why don't we ban the chokehold? Why don't we are trained for DE ESCALATION RATHER THAN ESCALATION? Why don't we make it easier to sue? Police officers for really agreed stuff. Obviously, you want cops to be able to do their job without worrying about losing their house, but if you do something totally atrocious. You should be able to go into civil court against that officer right now. You really can't. There are commonsense reforms that could be done this year on a bipartisan basis that would reduce the amount of unlawful violence. Also, you're seeing the best of law enforcement and the worst of law enforcement. Every day you got cops who are kneeling with with protesters who were calling community meetings. We're doing beautiful stuff heartbreaking. Heartbreaking heart rending stuff, and you got cops people upside the head and acting like idiots, and that's what we base in the black community every day, but now people are seeing both the face and the bad face, and the problem is the bad face never corrected even that those police offers shoved that man to the ground, a seventy five year, old man to the ground and left him there bleeding. His that which was wrong anybody with? No, that's wrong. Fifty plus officers have resigned supporting the bully cops, so we've got a problem here, but it can be resolved. It can be resolved this year we could a big big chunk of this could be knocked out this year and I hope it is you know glory. We saw the president today. Speaking economy about Mr Floyd briefly looking down from heaven, and saying that this is a good day It it came on the heels of meeting in the White House yesterday between President Trump and his campaign advisers. How much you think of what we heard today, and frankly what we've been hearing from this President these last eleven days and more is basically just about getting re-elected. Hundred percent all of it every bit of it, and he's looking at the polls understands what he sees, and for the same reason Anderson that he skimmed over the number of deaths in corona virus, and didn't meet with the families of those victims. He doesn't talk about social unrest. And I talked to somebody close you talk social unrest in talks about what he talks about is looting, and and you know. ENTER KISS I I mean I. Can't talk about right. He can't talk about the peaceful protests. Because of course, they were disrupted. By you know? Bullets Helicopters Etcetera Etcetera look this? I talked to somebody close to the White House. said to me, the president is not conversant as we all know given the way he acted tying the tragedy of George Floyd's death to a bright spot in the economy today. which was you know beyond tone-deaf? They know he can't speak this language. They know he doesn't feel it. The only thing he can talk about is the economy because it's something. He understands being a businessman for many many years, and so they're now talking about their. To greatness, which is not actually a great campaign phrase, but it's something that's perhaps terra firma for him, but he feels, and they believe that that is their only a key to reelection right now to make people feel good so like he's told us a cheerleader during Cova, he's trying to be a cheerleader now while there are walls being built around the White House. To keep him from protesters, it's it's a remarkable picture. Then, do you? Do you have a sense of where this goes next week? We're going to see the funeral for Mr. Floyd, on Tuesday in Houston. Where where does this go? We know. Does anybody I mean. Their directions here. The negative direction is a lot of lip service. No legislation passes of the cops. Don't actually get convicted, and then we're on the pathway to more and more unrest by the end of the summer you can have five or ten American cities on fire. That's one direction, but I think something has happened over the past few days. I think. Keith Ellison the Attorney General of Minnesota who I've known for many years stepping into the breach and charging those cops I think the violent disruptive protests calming down at the same time that the. The peaceful protests are actually growing shows another possibility and that possibility is to pass good laws to have better conversations, and a bunch of corporations are stepping Michael Jordan stepped up and said he's GonNa. Put One hundred million dollars on the table to try to help me that are suffering. You're having a flourishing of new conversation new philanthropy, hopefully some new lawmaking, and we could actually wind up stronger and better than than we've been, but it's up to us. We are at the crossroads. We are absolutely at the crossroads is it could go either direction? and. You know I am pulling for us to notice the new common ground. There is new common ground between African Americans, White Belts and other folks that there's something wrong with with our law. Enforcement System can be fixed that racism is real and that we do more about it. That isn't. That's an a new continent. There's emerged of common ground that we should take Banja Ben Jones Gloria borger coming up next more on the breaking news tonight. See Change on protests and racial justice from the commissioner of the NFL Aaron Jones. Benjamin Watson and Christine Brennan. Join us. We expect a lot from our homes. They're more than a place to hang your hat. Your home is where you try your handed gardening and new recipes, rest and recharge work and play, and that's why it homeadvisor. We're committed to keeping your home up and running no matter what from the projects that creep up on you like appliance repairs, gutter cleanings and faucet fixes to the ones you look forward to like creating your very own backyard retrieved worthy of a summer vacation. We'll find. Find local pros to help you. Get the job done right use. The homeadvisor APP day or night to get matched with the best pros for your projects. 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We were wrong for not listening to NFL players earlier. And encourage all to speak out and peacefully protest. The National Football League Leaf Mike Lives matter. Commissioner goodell statement follows a video from NFL players last night, calling on him to say precisely that joining us now is seen in sports. Analysts in USA Today a Communist Christine Brennan Christine I of. How did this come about I mean do we know was? Was goodell feeling pressure from players, fans, owners, or is he just sensing a change in the country? I think it's more the latter Anderson Sensing the change. We are hearing that he was not pressured by the Donald Trump. Statement earlier that he didn't feel the need to react. When Donald Trump of course was saying positive things about drew brees, so it wasn't that Certainly, this has been four years in the making, so it wasn't exactly a rush job. In the sense that Colin Kaepernick was speaking out in August of two thousand sixteen, and of course here we are now. I do think I've known Roger. Goodell for a long time Anderson we grew up together he on the PR side, and the as a journalist and I. do think that these are things that he cares about and I. I know a lot of people criticize him all the time, but I can see him watching what's going on listening to his players? He said in that statement he said if there are no black players, there's no national football league. He knows that and he means it and I would have loved to see him. Apologize Colin Kaepernick. I would've loved to see him. Say something about Cabernet, but maybe that's for another day, but I do think the NFL has gone out here in a big way, and I am sure one of their biggest fans donald trump is not happy about this today. Would the owners had to agree to Goodell saying this? The owners usually agree of or android. Goodell does what the owners want. That is a great question. I have not yet been able to get the answer to that. As you probably know many of your personnel that at least ten NFL owners have given to Donald. Trump's campaign. They are big big. Donald Trump supporters including Jerry Jones with the cowboys Dan. Snyder here in Washington and I'm going to guess at some of them are not entirely pleased about this, either because there trump guys and they have not signed Cabernet obviously, no one has and they definitely. The they've put their money right where there is with with trump so. Now. You've got Roger Goodell going against the wishes of Donald. Trump that is a fact I think that Roger Goodell is sensing the mood of the nation and I think he's certainly with the majority of the nation and something that should be said. Young Fans Anderson are big fans. Of Cabernet. They bought all those Nike Jerseys a Nike. T shirts a couple of years ago with cabinet campaign in two thousand eighteen, that was so successful marketing campaign with Nike and so for your future fan base. This is a very very positive. Move me not for the older people, but those fans are going to be around for the next fifty years buying season tickets. I think. Roger Goodell. I WanNa bring in Benjamin, watching former NFL player, and I believe He's the author of under our skin, getting real about racing, getting free from the fears and frustrations that divide us. Benjamin I! Mean you wrote about this in in a under our skin. I'm wondering how you what you make. Roger Goodell statement. About them, we all have certain reactions, but whether he is sincere, or or if he's sincere, I think great good can come from this, and you listen to what he said we the NFL condemns racism. The systematic oppression of black people the next step. is to start addressing within the NFL. So this is a good thing. This is a great knowledge. Moment and I agreed that I do think Roger Goodell cares about these issues. But we look internally into the NFL and we just watched the NFL draft. We saw on our screens where there what gird many blacks and sea level positions. We know that there aren't many many minorities much less black people in ownership. There's three head. Coaches are black. How do we address those issues in the NFL? That's where the proof comes. That's where the action comes is by addressing the nepotism problem that I believe is still exists in the NFL desperate. We can kind of take this statement. Great Statement. We imply whether it was a pressure of players, which again I applaud our players from leading this now let's go to the next step and action. Let's see the proof when we look at NFL clubs now moving forward and Benjamin, your former teammate drew brees obviously had controversy this week when he said he'd never agree with NFL. Players who knelt during the national anthem. He's since apologized for saying that. Do you accept that apology? Of course of course I know drew is no secret play with do for several years led him and his family. I think that we have to collectively understand that when someone says something that they didn't mean something, no misinterpreted and they apologize. We forget that we move on. Do, said perfectly in a statement that he is going to with his actions through feels I. Think the biggest thing though is. He said he's going to listen. And that's the same thing you hurt Roger Goodell say. I'm going to listen look. We live in a country where we can have a multitude of different perspectives, if drew doesn't with people kneeling for the flag. That's fine what he does have to. Do is understand the plight of others understand the pain of others and be willing to step into their shoes and say you know what I may not agree with that I mean I understand that, but because I love you. Because I love your humanity, I'm willing to listen to where you're coming from and I know the on a shot of ago. Christine it's interesting because when when this was being discussed. When with Colin Kaepernick and others, there were a lot of fans who seem to not appreciate the idea of players taking a knee. Certainly, the president did and It seemed like the pendulum. See when once you know. Game started again and Games are being played. It seems like a lot of the owners backtracked as well. Right I think things have changed dramatically and obviously this is far beyond football of course Anderson. This is about our country and what we're seeing and what you're talking about every night on air, and and the NFL is a part of our culture, and clearly they are seeing this and so everything that we thought might have been the case. A couple of weeks ago is no more. And I can go. No, no, no go ahead. Well so so I just think that this shows if anyone is doubting how big a deal this is, and the tragedy of George Floyd, and all of the issues that we're talking about with black lives matter if anyone doubts that this is one of the watershed moments in our nation's history, something like a a sports league seems insignificant, except it's the nfl the our national pastime. Pastime, and if it hell is giving us that kind of statement today, which he did that signals that things have changed dramatically WanNa bring an Jones running back for the Green Bay packers. Aaron, being with us, you're a you're in the league right now. How do you think Adele's message going to be received by by the players? And how is it being received by you? Off. Will just glad he's listening. he's. Not, he's. Over squeeze. As openers. So, what's in store and so? I I think everybody. Is trying to take whatever they may be. If I can't I can't tell you how somebody else's GonNa react yeah. Benjamin Wynn. You didn't interview. Just I think it was yesterday and you were talking about how you had racist teammates Do you wish that this came from Goodell a lot earlier? And I wish we weren't dealing with any of this You know the truth of the matter is we live in a fallen world? We have seminar role manifest itself many times in a bunch of different things including racism, and so my wish would be that. We won't have any of this going on, but we do so. Yeah of course I wish that. Not, just a statement be made, but I wish that we wouldn't be dealing with the disparities that we're dealing within our culture that we won't be dealing with you know the year as one hundred. The two hundred years, a slave route one hundred fifty years of Jim Crow. Red Lining residential segregation. The list goes on and on incarceration I was dealing with any of those things, but here we are, and so the question is. How do we collectively? WHY BLACK RICH POOR! How are we going to make this country better so? That's what this has to be about. This has to be about American looking in the mirror. Because what we're seeing right now is a reflection of ourselves and deciding what we're going to do to make it better. Arron win when the season finally does. Start again and players are on the field. How do you think this changes things? So? Much of Back then we knew what it was about. Solidarity we, we are new. SCOPE! For us is nothing's really changed. We're GONNA. Continue to go ourselves. We. In our office. We don't see that it started off. All. Lay, down? Any! Know we have one common, goal. Aaron, Jones I appreciate. you joining us. Thank you so much Benjamin Watson as well and and Christine Brennan Policy said we. We tried to get you on camera and obviously some technical issues even with the phone. Really appreciate you coming Benjamin Watson great to have you Christine thanks so much We're going to have a closer look at the policing that we have seen as people protest current policy current policing. We've seen extraordinary images from the police in a positive way, and also some sticking incidents as well this in Buffalo. The fact that some officers are now defending the officers involved. We'll be right back. mentioned. The top looking live pictures at about park, avenue and eighty I the upper east side in New York, a couple of arrests. There are large numbers of police. We're not sure exactly what the situation is. Curfew began at eight o'clock, so was forty minutes ago. We mentioned the top how these protests have brought out the best in many people and the worst in others, looters, and some in law enforcement seen as Jason Carroll. Tonight has closer look. After eleven days of nationwide protests, a growing number of disturbing police incident on video are emerging from across the country. In Buffalo New York to officers have been suspended after a seventy five year old protester was pushed and left bleeding on the ground, initially, police said the man tripped and fell, but the video clearly shows two officers pushing him before he falls backwards to the ground when I saw, the video got sick to my stomach all fifty seven members of the Buffalo Police. Emergency Response Team, have resigned from the team, but not the department. They said the suspended officers for simply executing orders Oh my God. Scary in Tacoma Washington, a new video posted to social media appears to show officers violently striking manual ellis. As he lies on the ground, a second video also appears to show officers holding Ellis while he's on the ground, and telling him to put his hands behind his back Ellis died after being physically restrained by police. His family is calling for four officers involved to be fired. The medical examiner ruled his death a homicide. Blessed. Style okay was. News good. And not deserve! To be murdered. At the at the police. And in Atlanta new video of a woman being body slammed by a police officer, breaking her collarbone at a protest, may twenty nine, no word yet from the Atlanta, Police Department of whether the officer involved will face disciplinary actions. While in New York City last night, a small sign of hope as a police chief in Brooklyn de escalated a situation with protesters, shaking hands, and this an African American law enforcement officer. And how does that make you? How does that fit with well? I'm a black man but I loved being a police officer so I'm not resigning. Show everybody sick. Jason Carroll Cnn New York. Joins US now. Someone is familiar with both what communities police are experiencing. He's miles. McPherson your pastor. The Rock Church and San Diego author of the third option hope for a racially divided nation pester McPherson. Thanks so much for joining us. You reach out to me on on instagram and I I. Put your words. I just thought. I really was so. So happy that you're willing to come on because I I think you. You have really a unique perspective on this. Your Dad, a police officer. Your son is currently a police officer. and you've had some really profound comments about what is going on and for you right now. What do you think needs to happen in this country in the and? I'm so glad you're well. Thanks for having me. I'm so glad we gotta get the Solutions I wrote this book called Third Option because we live in us. Verse Them Culture and everybody's trying to get their way, and you're forced to pick side. You're the four against the police for against blacks or whites, and the third option is that we honor what we have in common. We have more similarities than differences, and if we would focus on that, all of us are in journey. Enroll bleed red. We all have like sleep like our food, but we all want to get along and have peace and. And so we gotta do take steps to bridge that gap and I would say one of those things is the to acknowledge that we have blind spots. A blind spot is not knowing what you know. There are a lot of times. We don't even know when we're offending somebody. Is this the gap between your intent of what you do and the impact of what you do lot of times, people will say things that are offensive. They don't even realize this for example. When you say I don't see Kulla. People are trying to build a bridge, but in fact, the person of color just feels like you invalidated everything that they are. This color has certain. Burns would certain certain things has been through, and when you say you don't see color, you tell someone you don't see them, and that you do not acknowledge what they've been through, and then therefore you can't really love them properly, because you're not even acknowledging the pain, they've been through a lot of times. The color we get the town we get in Hawaii. We celebrate. Celebrate, but the Tan someone gets in the womb. We invalidate you know. There are a lot of folks who are watching these protests, and they see different things. I talked to cremate Jabbar about this. Who wrote about in the Times recently? I thought it very eloquently. you know people we can look at one protest and see completely different things depending on what side of the aisle they're sitting on or what zip code there in, or or whatever it you know whatever point of view they have I. I'm not sure how one overcomes that. But I think there's a lot of people who are still not sure about where this goes, and maybe more some people focused more on you know, lawbreaking and looting and focus a moron police actions that are brutal and yet the vast majority of police and the vast majority of protesters have been. Trying to follow the law and peaceful and How do you get away from the US? Versus them and this polarization, which is stoked by our political leaders and The media by everything. The first thing you have to acknowledged that it is a US I them in that you have blind spots. Our social narrative is a story that helped shape how you see the world. It's information got from your parents, your school, your neighborhood and it develops a lens through which you to filter through which you interpret everything, so you're social narrative is going to tell you how to interpret the news how to interpret what you watch on on television with the people riding or an protesting how you interpret that how you interpret the police and what we all have to realize is that my social narrative is one of seven billion. I don't know everyone's and that's. Why have the humbly say? Helped me understand your perspective. That's why. People come together and talking listening to each other learning from each other and learn to love each other, but if it has to be my way versus you away, we're never going to get anywhere. One of the ways to do that is to rename people. Everybody was made in the image of God, every person and even the people who are looting were made an image of God. They're just doing. Doing bad things, but they're still made in the image of God and have the potential to live productive lives, and if we can see them, not through the name of looter or thug, all the names we give people and see God's potential in them and treat them that way, then we can start to move the ball forward. What are the things I've always believed in as a reporter and? Traveling all around, the world is the importance of walking in someone else's shoes and trying to kind of see things through. From a different vantage point. I online somebody said the other day. You know they think to themselves. What if I'm wrong and I? I think a lot of us. Don't really pay that fought very often and I think it's a really important. I thought to like what if my perspective is actually wrong on this and and being open to that possibility even. I, think can lead to interesting places. Brother you hit on the head, I think when people saw George murdered that the reason people on the streets some of them because they're just fed up with absolutely but I believe that a lot of people are out there because they realize I was wrong kneeling, he was cat was neely for our good reason, and if we would have heated his kneeling on the field, we might not be mourning the kneeling on George, and so I think people realize a man maybe I had this wrong. You're not right in my book, the third option about having. Having a race consultations, not race conversation we do see colored and the only time we say we don't see colors when we see it, but because we do see, have all these sumptious about who we see instead of intended taken those assumptions and claim that they're fact, we should suspend them and have a race consultation. What I mean by that? Let people self disclose to you who they are because you assumption might be wrong the lady. New York City. WHO said an African American man is harassing me or whatever because? She didn't have a dog leash. He was a he was a Harvard, Grad seesaw one thing, but had it all wrong, so I think we need to listen to people. Learn from people and get love them. Pastor Miles McPherson Wow this confirmed that think makes me feel like instagram is worthwhile. I really predict. Respond and SCR. It's great to talk to you and I I'd love to come to the surface of your sometime. The rods heard San Diego. As DOT, com, right pastor miles McPherson. Thanks so much appreciate it up next the push for reform within the Minneapolis. Police Department why protesters say this union leader is promoting a toxic culture, and and should resign in in Minneapolis will tell you about that later. The search for a cyclist accused of assaulting a group of people including children who are just putting up black lives matters flyers look at this guy. Like pitted me of white privilege. We'll be back. 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Kroll should turn in his badge more now from our Randi Kaye. Bob Cruel has always had a hard nosed approach to policing as head of the Minneapolis Police Union. He's been a proponent of what he calls warrior style police. which critics say encourages officers to use more force just last year when the mayor of Minneapolis Band such training Kroll began offering you to every officer who wants it while the mayor is in office, Kroll has also been accused of excessive force and racist remarks back in two thousand and four kroll was suspended for nearly three weeks after he had another off duty. Police officer allegedly punched and kicked a man for brushing against their car with his backpack. Kroll denied any wrongdoing on race. Kroll has had harsh words for black lives. Matter I. Don't see black lives matter. Matter as the voice for the black community in Minneapolis real black leaders will tell you that this is a terrorist organization that puts out false narratives, and according to a two thousand seven lawsuit brought by five African American Minneapolis officers, suggesting racism in the ranks Bob Kroll referred to then U S representative Keith Ellison as a terrorist ellison now Minnesota's attorney general is a black Muslim. The same lawsuit also accused Kroll of wearing a motorcycle jacket with a white power patch on it. Kroll denied the allegations and the lawsuit was settled for seven hundred forty thousand dollars. Despite his history of controversy, Kroll found supporter in the White House. Administration and the handcuffing and oppression of police was despicable the. The first thing president trump did when he took office was turned that around got rid of. The holder Loretta Lynch regime. And decided to start letting the cops do their job. What the handcuffs on the criminals instead of us! A review of crawls twenty-six years on the forest by the Minneapolis Star Tribune. Newspaper revealed that crawl had at least twenty internal affairs complaints against him, including excessive force, civil complaints and wrongful arrest lawsuits. Now three of those complaints did end in Disciplinary Action Kroll told the paper that he is not a racist. He also told the Minneapolis city pages that he is not the boogeyman that some people have made him out to be meanwhile our calls and emails to Bob. Kroll were not returned Anderson. Randy thanks so much. Randi, Kaye, because so much of this has been. Concerning and interesting and troubling to kids a lot of kids have questions about all this unions tackling on tomorrow morning along with Sesame Street. It's called coming together. STANDING UP TO RACISM CNN. Sesame Street townhall gets underway at ten. Am Eastern time right here. Up Next what happened at a popular bike trail in Maryland when group tried to put a black lives, matters flyers some little kids. We're trying to put them up why police are now asking for the public's health and finding that guy in his biking gear. The Maryland national capital. Park police are asking for help. They're say they're looking for. A cyclist was caught on video assaulting a group of people including children who are putting up black lives matters. Flyers take a look at this. Leave her alone. Do. Not Touch her. See Nothing. Zero Lieber alone. Sarah Walkway. Hey. On Monday, purply police say the suspects fifty to sixty years old. Clearly a white guy waddling around in his biking cleats. About six feet in high short brown hair, the men recorded. The video says he's been back on the bike trail. He won't let this incident. Stop Them. He's putting it more. Signs and others have offered to help him. Jerk, news continues a handover Chris for Cuomo primetime.