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She knew reporting on what was said at this meeting between secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, and the power behind the Saudi throne. Crown prince Mohammad bin Salman known as m Bs, also known as the man who would have known in advance about the alleged torture, murder, and dismemberment of Jamal Shuki in its Don bowl according to a source familiar with it, the smiles you see there between the prince and the secretary of state and pay which raised many eyebrows today. We're only for show it even as we bring you this new account of a far tougher tone with the Saudis or alleged tone. We should also mention it comes against the drumbeat of recent statements from secretary Pompeo and others that suggests the opposite. When asked today, whether the FBI is investigating the apparent murder of an American resident who lived and worked just across the Potomac from the White House for the Washington Post. He again underscored that cashew Kesey was Saudi and not an American citizen and secretary Pompeo who's. Just back from that meeting in Riyadh had this to say, when asked if Saudi officials had told him whether shook she is even dead or alive. I don't wanna talk about any of the facts they they didn't want to either in that they want to have the opportunity to complete this investigation in a thorough way. So just a few hours ago, secretary Pompeo suggested he's okay with a fact free fact-finding visit or ledge fact-finding visit also that he's okay with the country. Suspected of detaining torturing, drugging and dismembering a high profile. American resident investigating itself combined that with the president's repeated mention of how important and ally and arms buyer Saudi Arabia is and critics say it adds up to an administration, helping the kingdom cover up of murder, which may or may not explain why we're now being told about tough, talk behind closed doors, but it certainly adds a new dimension to the story, and it's where we begin this hour with CNN's Alex Marquardt joins us with the latest. So what is this source saying happened in the meeting between secretary Pompeo and the crown prince Anderson. I imagine you're right. I think we're hearing this side of the story because of the widespread criticism that Pompeii. Oh, got four looking. So chummy four looking so smiley with NBS. Remember, of course, he was there to supposedly demand answers from MVSA about this horrifically grizzly. Murder, what Anderson a we are hearing from a source who's telling our colleague, Jamie gang Gill that Pompeo told them Bs, no, uncertain terms that he has to own this situation that eventually all the facts will come out. And then even if NBS didn't know about the plot ahead of time that he has to own this situation. Now, we're told that the most dramatic moment in this conversation was one Pompeo told them Bs that the very his very future as king is at stake. Remember he's just thirty three years old, but his father's quite elderly, he could very easily become king. Soon. We're already starting to hear noises from certain quarters about demanding the king to replace his son as crown prince most notably from Senator Lindsey, Graham of South Carolina who said very bluntly, calling on the king to replace NBS is crown prince called him toxic. So we were told Jamie gang gal was told by her source that this was a very blunt message. It's unclear how it landed with the crown prince Anderson. It also seems completely at odds with the photo opportunity in which they both or smiling seemed to be enjoying each other's company. Wooded secretary of state. Pompeo allegedly tell the crown prince the US would do if he doesn't own it, and I'm not even sure what owning it exactly means that's a little bit confusing terms, the phrasing, but he basically said that action would be taken that the US refers to take action. In fact, the quote is the US will take action because the world will demand it. And that President Trump's hand will be forced by the global pressure and it's not just global pressure. It's domestic pressure. Most of the pressure that President Trump is feeling right now is coming from Capitol Hill from both sides of the aisle group of senators. Bipartisan senators saying that they are ready to Levy sanctions under the Magnitsky act, which of course was first enacted against Russia, and they would also be ready to block arm sales now, Pompeii, oh, has just landed back on US soil. He is expected to brief President Trump soon. The first indication Anderson of how the US is going. Her manage this relationship, how the Trump administration is going to handle this relationship going forward may come tomorrow because Treasury Secretary, Steven Mnuchin is slated to go to a conference in Riyadh. Next week, we've seen this long list of political and business leaders who have pulled out of that right now. Mnuchin is still slated to go. He said, he's not going to make a decision until tomorrow after the briefing by Pompeo to the president. All right, Alex, Marquardt appreciate that reaction from Senator Jeff Merkley democrat of Oregon member of the Senate Foreign Relations committee Senator. Thanks for being with us. The new narrative of of allegedly what happened. This Pompeo meeting that's supposedly the smiles ended at the end of the photo op. Do you believe that especially given the tone of everything else we've seen in heard from the administration thus far. I'm not at all confident of that. The fact that the message to the world was that they discussed many things, bilateral relations security in the Gulf and caught around to saying that a thorough investigation would be nice. I mean, that kind of attitude certainly doesn't show the US demanding answers on the murder of an American resident, the murder of American columnist for the Washington Post. We need to send a powerful message here. Not one that basically tries to create space for some sort of spin or cover story to develop. The, it's been pointed out a number times for people in ministration that the Jamal cook. She was not an American citizen. Should that matter in terms of the US response. Not at all. Here's an American resident. He's a writer, a columnist for the Washington Post. In American newspaper, I'm we should stand up for human rights are everywhere in the world, and certainly such a murderer is unacceptable. If it indeed happened for the murder happened, but the there's plenty of connection to America for American take the lead in many thorough investigation, not an investigation by the Saudis we should be involved in this. We should deploy our assets are FBI assets to find out what happened. Do you find credible at all that NBS would not have known about an operation of this sort in advance given that some of the people have been identified as people in his close protection detail who other maybe part of the Saudi intelligence community or certainly into security establishment. I do not find that credible at all. NBS is really played at a a huge role in that country. I think everyone is terrified to do anything that doesn't go through him. The idea that there'd be some rogue element that would undertake such a massive preparation to bring in a team to lure him over to Turkey to the embassy to this embassy to proceed to kill him. Dismember him tortuous own. And so none. I cannot imagine anyone doing that without NBS. Having basically said, make this happen. So this source of Jimmy Tangail said that sector Pompeo told NBS that he has to own it. I'm not sure what again with that means, what would you what do you think the the ramifications should be for the US Saudi relationship. Well, certainly those individuals who we find out we're involved should be subjected to the global Magnitsky act, which that has a limited amount of power. But it does say that we will freeze your assets. It does say that we will restrict your travel to the United States, but then we need to think about other things involved in the relationship. We need to think about the use of the foreign assistance act. The arms export control act. The War Powers Act all of which have provisions that create a leverage regarding a foreign nation and our relationship with them and our supply of arms and our supply of intelligence and our supply of support and other forms. So if the president doesn't take what you and your colleagues in congress, consider to be appropriate action. Is there really enough political will or bipartisan support for congress, it self to to take action. I think they're very well might be. There were forty, four votes for the Sanders. Lee Murphy provisions that went before the Senate to say that we should stop providing fuel and support for their attacks on Yemen and intelligence in cooperating with them. Forty, four bipartisan votes. In that instance, I would suspect that that vote was held today that there'd be a majority and partly we have to realize this is coming on top of just more and more knowledge about this Saudi targeting of civilians in Yemen, the massive starvation that is eminent or imminent there. It's it's a horrific situation that the US should not have its hand in, but we do and there's a growing sense. We must force administration to quit partnering in this decimation of civilian infrastructure and bombings in Yemen. Merkley appreciate your time. Thank you. There's more breaking news. I just moments ago the Washington Post published a Columbine Jamal Kush shook. She apparently his final column in it. He talks about freedom writ large in the Arab world and more specifically freedom of the press. He pulls no punches in his criticism of the Saudi government criticism that we now know might have gotten him killed Arab governments. He rides have been given free rein to continue silencing the media at an increasing rate. There was a time when journalists believed that the internet would liberate information from the censorship and control associated with print media. But these governments whose very existence relies on the control of information have aggressively blocked the internet. He went on to write the Arab world is facing its own version of an iron curtain imposed not by external actors, but through domestic forces vying for power during the Cold War radio for Europe, which grew over the years and to a critical institution played an important role in fostering and sustaining the hope of freedom. Arabs need something similar because. Shook. She also writes about a friend and fellow columnist now in prison for to the anti-saudi commentary who's says, it's serving a five-year sentence which now given what likely happened. It is temple almost seems quaint joining us now is Washington Post, global opinions editor, Karen Attiyah current winded, Jim cook. She write this and I'm wondering what's behind the decision to publish it. Now. Sure. So this came to me about a day after we heard about his disappearance through his assistant translator, which he worked with from time to time while we worked together in the past year, you know, he'd been KOMO collaborating on this piece up until the day before he disappeared on on October for as far as I can tell. So like I said, in my note above the column we held off, we honestly thought that maybe we were dealing with, you know, perhaps, you know, an interrogation situation. We thought that maybe he would come back to us. We thought maybe we were perhaps even dealing with an imprisonment or hostage situation. But as time went on. It became increasingly clear that I wouldn't at him again. And so I think this week we decided as a story is moving onto sort of US Saudi relationship, geopolitical story rumors swirling about who he who Jamal was. We just decided we wanted to bring it back to his words to his ideas to his his thoughts and who he was as a person and why he was so passionate about being free here in Washington and being free here the Washington Post. So we thought it was appropriate just to remind people of the human of the man who fell victim to apparently a horrific horrific crime. I mean, it does seem fitting and also incredibly sad that his last column this last column would be about freedom of the press in in the Arab world. It's fitting, but it's it's in our time working together, especially in the last several weeks. He was very again. He would come into the office. We had a lunch a couple of weeks ago and who's very adamant about wanting to do more in Arabic. He wanted to create a sort of no International Herald Tribune for the Arab world. And I think that he, he really wanted to be free. He just saw how a journalism was being smashed around the Arab world, and and so it was something that he was he's really pushing for very pushy about. He wasn't a very pushy writer at all. But on this note, it was something that he's really passionate about in the point where let's say care and I would do this for free. Just let me do this. I'll setup editors all figure it out. And we were discussing even setting up some sort of newsletter perhaps that he could help them and take charge of. And so it is. Vetik and it is fitting that this would be the last column that I write edit for him. Okay or not. I appreciate you joining us. Thank you a bit later. We'll have more on the affinity that the president appears to have with the Saudis with the arguments for and against confronting them and more coming up next more. Breaking news. It's time in the Russian investigation signs. 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The president's former personal attorney and self-described Mr. Fixit met today with a group of state and federal law enforcement officials according to sources familiar with the meeting, they're investigating the president's family business as well as his charity Cohen has also been talking with Russia's Russia's special counsel, Robert Muller's team, and we've new reporting tonight on how busy Mr. molar has been lately, although not in the headlines, put some of these new pieces together to some this quiet period before midterms and starting to look perhaps like the homestretch CNN. Sara Murray has the reporting behind this possible new timeline. She joins us now. So what are you hearing about what's going on what's been going on? Because it's obviously, you know, they've been kind of lying low in terms of there's no public indictments. And what are you hearing about possible more indictments in the future? Well, that's right. You know, we're just a couple of weeks in the midterms. We don't expect any big. Public announcements, but there has been a flurry of activity going on behind the scenes. And you know, we can tell you that sources close to the president sources familiar with this investigation. Still believe there could be more criminal indictments to come. And you know, one of the big characters in this we haven't heard a lot about lately is Roger stone. One of the president's longtime political advisors, and he's even said publicly that he believes he could be indicted for some kind of criminal activity. He just doesn't know what. So just be clear though there's no reporting saying criminal, some criminal diamonds are coming out it just you're hearing the possibility of fairly there is the possibility of, you know, we don't know from Muller's team, whether there's going to be a criminal indictment until the criminal indictment comes out. But what we know is that people who are familiar with this investigation people know what's going on behind the scenes with some of these ongoing investigations, do believe that there could be more indictments to calm. Of course, we would expect that stuff too. All become public later on down the road after we get through the mid term elections. And as we get to this point, you know, we're Robert Muller wants to get he these last few cases on the board, at least through the through the finish line in terms of the indictment, and then start preparing his report. What about Paul Manafort has he been interviewed a lot. Yeah. I mean, when we talk about what's going on behind the scenes, we're talking about some key players in this investigation. So Paul Manafort we know is cooperating. He's been in with his lawyers to meet with a special counsel team, nine different times. And we've also seen something similar going on with Michael Cohen. As you point out, he met with state and federal investigators to talk about the Trump family business to talk about the charitable charitable foundation, but he has also met with Muller's team and we're not exactly sure what they are cooperating on, but we know that the special counsel obviously had questions for them and who knows what kind of investigations or what other players they could provide Intel on. Is it clear at this point if this, if this does end, whether some public report will actually be issued because there's no, there's no guarantee that there would be a public report by Muller. Correct? Exactly. And there are plenty of Americans who have watched this play out who've heard us talk about they score wondering what the special counsel and his team have been up to. But the way that these rules are written, what has to happen is the special counsel has to handover report to deputy attorney general rod Rosenstein, and then it's basically up to him to decide what if anything he wants to make public. This'll be a report and sort of explains why Muller decided to prosecute the things he did and why declined to prosecute other things that you know were maybe left behind left on the cutting room floor, but we just don't know if the American public or we or if we are going to get a glimpse of that at all Anderson. Sir, Murray. Appreciate another potential sign that big things may be a head comes from the the president. He's talking about the investigation. Again, disparaging mocking the notion. He -cluded with Russia as he did just recently with FOX business. There was no collusion. There was Russia. Do you think? I'd Russia. I need help in Idaho. I need help in Iowa. Oh, let's call Russia. It's a, it's a con job. I didn't make one call to the whole thing is so disgraceful. So it continues its witch hunt. It's nothing more than a witch hunt, and most people get it including Democrats, they wink at me. They look at me. They wink at me. The Democrats get it too, but we'll see what happens. Perspective now from New York Times, White House correspondent and CNN political analyst, Maggie Haberman also David Gergen who worked with four presidents and former defense attorney. Paul Callan CNN legal analyst. So Maggie you've been saying that something is agitated, the president, I'm more wondering what makes you confident. It's related to the molar probe. It's related to the Meller product could be related to all kinds of things, and he's expressing it this way. Although he has tended to use which hunt when something is going on with the Russia probe. There were some sentence sentences that were handed down. I believe that Fox News was talking about the morning that he made that tweet that could have been it. I think it is likely that they have an expectation that there is a report coming as you have been reporting. And as we have heard as well fairly soon after the midterm election that there could be an indictment of Roger stone, which well, the president will distance himself from Roger stone. Roger stone has been a long serving off and on adviser to this president, the longest serving of his political group. And so it could be any one of these things, but he had taken a break from agitating about this. He had not tweeted the words which hunt for a month, and the way it had been described to me by several people close to him was a, he personally believed that Muller was winding down for whatever reason, and we don't know why that he believed that number one, the number two, he also believed that all he could do was rock the boat. And yet here you had him doing it again this week. You know if the focus is Roger stone in any kind of indictment to maggie's point Roger stone left that campaign relatively early on at least publicly left the campaign. If at the end of the day, there's only a diaper of Roger stone and no indictment of anyone else or no charges levelled against the president, the guard to collusion, our destruction. That'll be a major victory. The White House would take that in a heartbeat, but there are a number of indications that we're right now. We're going through the quiet before a storm and the storm is coming after the mid terms with the collision possibly between the Justice department. Rod Rosenstein and President Trump Rosenstein has been really acting an interesting way here. He's basically put told Muller to us up, get this thing completed as soon as you can. He today, how had an interview in which he call the what Muller has been doing completely appropriate. And he was acting an independent ways they should that is Rosen saying. From my point of view, building a wall to protect Muller, knowing that Trump may move in now get rid of sessions, bringing a new attorney general who is not recused, who can then receive this report and throwing the waste basket, you know. So we don't know where this is going right now, but if there's a time when Donald Trump is going to strike, it's likely you're going to be shortly after the midterms and order had this head off Muller. You know, the president of folks at the White House repeatedly have been distancing themselves from Michael Cohen. Downplaying his role in the life of Donald Trump, and also, obviously, Paul manafort's Rowley into campaign was not clear is what at this point, Michael Cohen or implemented fort would know about that would be of interest to the Muller team? Well, I think that Muller is following leads that he has been all along with respect to Manafort and that is that Manafort had Ukrainian and Russian connections. What I'm wondering about now is if some of those connections would be helpful in proving charges against the Trump organization, because I have a feeling that in the end, there's no case against the president himself, but there may very well be a case being made based on Michael Cohen and what Manafort provides against the Trump organization for some kind of business mail. You know, practices and my my take is a little bit different than. David's on this odd statement that Rosenstein made. I mean, he's come out and said that the Muller investigation is appropriate and independent. Now, this comes in the wake of a meeting with the president where a lot of people thought Rosenstein was going to get fired for allegedly, suggesting that he taped the president or invoke the twenty fifth amendment. Whatever happened in that meeting, it was a friendly meeting because Trump came out and made no nasty statements about Rosenstein. So I think in that meeting, the must have been some hint given to the president that what's going to happen in the immediate future will not involve an indictment of the president himself, but maybe others. Although megi it was in that interview, I believe it was with you that you had with the president where the president you asked about a red line, and you know, business dealings, the family finances, and that was clearly something the president felt was a red line. Sure. And this is something that has been looming for a while. We don't know exactly. It's really important to to keep stressing a. We don't know exactly what Miller is doing and b, we certainly don't know what the southern district being orcas doing and they're the ones who are dealing. I think more specifically with Michael Cohen on aspects of the Trump organization, I think most people close to the president cannot imagine a scenario where he is going to be, you know, again, barring the unforeseen, but he's going to be indicted while he is an office for any of the things that they are looking at. And I think that Paul is dead on. I think that there has been a desire to suggest that Rosenstein is the bulwark against Muller being tampered with or against Muller folding or against something happening with Muller. There is a real reason to bear in mind that rod Rosenstein is the one who wrote the original memo that led to Comi being fired, which then lead to the appointment of Robert Muller. I think that Rosenstein has been at at various places on this and we don't know what was said in that private conversation, but there's no reason to assume that the conversation was Rosenstein drawing a line in the sand. David, how important do you think it would be for whatever report Muller puts together to give to Rosenstein that be made public or that there is at least some sort of public explanation of. The results of the investigation or does or decisions not to have any other demands? I think extremely port in the country's been put through seventeen months of this drama, and now they're all sorts of questions about what was this all about what was going on in the Trump organization, how shall we make judgments about this president about his inner circle and for us to then be sort of shut out of that process and to have selective leaking by one side or the other as process goes forward, I would be I think most unfortunate result or public, the public has a right to know in a democracy more than does this just the outlines of things. This is a a time. Yes, time to be transparent and straightforward. David Gergen, Maggie Haberman. 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Then minutes ago, new reporting the Washington Post which contrast with that narrative, the post reporting that the Trump administration and Saudi Royal family or searching for what the post describes as a mutually agreeable explanation. For what happened. One that does not implicate the Saudi Crown prince. The post also reporting that American intelligence intercept show. NBS had ordered an operation to lure Shuki back to Saudi Arabia certainly adds yet another dimension to that grip and grin video from Riyadh between the secretary of state and MVS, and that's just the latest in a string of developments day for more. I want to turn to our Jeff Zeleny Jeff. I mean, it certainly seems like the administration is in some sort of a cleanup mode right now. Over this meeting between Pompeo and the crown prince in which it was seemed incredibly cordial and happy in front of the cameras Anderson. There's no question for the last at least a couple of days. The president has been agitated. I'm told by what he sees as news coverage here that is painting him in a pretty favorable and a cozy light. If you will, with the Saudi government and the Saudi leadership. So no question at all secretary of state, Mike, Pompeo trying to assert that. No, I really did have tough words a privately, but the public words are what the world is watching here and the president. Once again today said he was gonna take a wait and see approach allowing the Saudis to complete their investigation. Now, we're more than two weeks into this situation already in the president, not showing any sense of urgency. Not saying if the US intelligence officials are involved or if he's getting any information of them seemingly to put everything on the Saudi government will the secretary of state. Clearly the mindful of his own. Own reputation and politics and all of this as well, pushing back saying, no, he did take a tough line, but Anderson. No question here. The White House feels exposed to this as they are hearing privately from a Republican senators and others saying that, why aren't you sort of being at least more skeptical at the very least of this Saudi government story. In the secretary of state is scheduled to meet with the president tomorrow about this, right? He is indeed, the secretary said is back now in Washington, after that fact, finding mission. If you will unclear how many facts you actually found. But he is scheduled to meet with the president at least expected to meet with the president likely in the Oval Office. Sometime perhaps mid day it's not been a publicly advised yet, but then the president is going out west for a series of campaign swing. So clearly this is hanging over him, but they are expected to have a one on one meeting in again, though it's unclear what that is actually going to do to develop this since the US government and the president has said, we're going to wait for the Saudis finished its investigation here, but they are scheduled to have a meeting tomorrow Anderson. Aren't just me Jeff. Thanks. All of this, of course, is the crisis. The White House clearly did not want joining us now, Jen Psaki, former White House communications director for President Obama former Republican Senator Rick Santorum and former senior adviser to President Obama, David Axelrod did, what do you make of this new reporting from the Washington Post? Just a just we're just getting that the Trump administration and the Saudi Royal family are searching for a mutually agreeable explanation for she's death that doesn't somehow implicate the crown prince. Yeah, my from the beginning was that the trip was more about getting the stories to coordinate in jibe than than a fact-finding mission. This is a sticky wicket for the administration because they've lashed themselves so closely to the Saudis and particularly to the crown prince. And if he is implicated as a mastermind of this assassination, it is a enormous problem for them. So I think that, you know, let's just stipulate by the way that if you are serious about getting to the bottom of it, would you rely on the Saudi government if in fact, the crown prince was involved to come up with a story that got to the bottom of this. I don't think so. I think this is about stalling for time to find a plausible way to explain all this. Senator Santorum. Do you buy this notion that the crown prince. Would oversee an investigation that would have any validity into what happened to Jamaica. Shook. She well look it. The Saudis aren't the only one investigating this. I mean, obviously this happened within Turkey. The Turks have already been very clear that they have information and and there is a great motiv- motivation on the part of of president Erta on to to stick this squarely between the Saudis is if you will. So I, I don't think there's any any doubt that the truth is going to come out about this and you some reporting that that I've heard said that the the secretary of state delivered that that this the truth is going to come out, you can. You can play games the idea of trying to get our story straight. There's not going to be getting story straight. The truth is going to come out about what happened here, and there's gonna be consequences. Probably looking like it's going to be NBS is the one that's going to be holding the bag. And the really the the question for the president is, you know, how do you maintain the religion. Ship with Saudi Arabia, which is key and very strategic and important and and deal or not deal with them Bs. I mean that that becomes another another internal issue for the Saudis. But I mean the notion that the US is waiting around for a Saudi investigation or the results of a Saudi investigation. Does that seem to make any sense to you know it? It's clearly a delay tactic. It's kind of like that old saying about the FOX, watching the hen house, but the FOX is overseeing the investigation of the break into the hen house in this case, and he has feathers coming out of his mouth. I mean, this is not obviously a valid investigation, but I think ultimately, we know what happened here are we know enough to know that MB s likely new because an operation of this level probably wouldn't have happened without his knowledge that obviously, there was a an international reporter who was murdered in all likelihood in this case and that there needs to be some international action. So as Rick Santorum just said, there is a reality here that the United States is an important relationship with Saudi Arabia. Past presidents Republican and democratic has been able to balance the call for human rights action and for freedom of press while also having that relationship. And this administration has to figure out a better way to do that because obviously this is not working and they're really giving them a free pass at this point. Dave, what would be the way to do that? It's obviously a very complex alliance. It's a complex situation and you know, it's obviously a complex part of the world. Yeah, it is and everything that was that that Jenin Rick said is true. In terms of the relationship between the US and Saudi Arabia, it's a, it's an important strategic relationship. But what's clear is that the congress isn't going to sit still if these facts come to the fore about about the the prince's involvement and Saudi is going to have to make a decision. The hard message that may have been delivered by the secretary of state is that if this is the fact that he was involved in this, he can't be the next in line. He can't be the defacto leader of the country and have us work closely with you. So you need to figure this problem out yourselves that would be the tough message to deliver. I don't think the message was, let's we'd better find out what happened here. I suspect the secretary of state has a pretty good sense of what happened here. Senator Santorum has the US tied itself. So closely to Mohammed bin Salman that that relationship is essential to the Saudi relationship, or can you see a Saudi relationship in which NBS is no longer the the crown prince or NBS is a controversial leader? Has you know a lot of enemies not just in Turkey but her, but in Saudi Arabia. And so and there certainly are other capable people there to to fill in b. s. steps aside. And, and in fact, you know, maybe a better course forward for for the Saudi. So this may be maybe a gift wrapped present that the president wasn't expecting, but but actually could be a better course. I think the Saudis are committed to from from a geopolitical point of view to lining up against Iran and trying to establish a new partnership in the Middle East with the United States, Israel, Egypt and others. And that's a very good side. I don't think NBS is unique in that regard. And I think the president has to has to take a step back here and look at what's in the best interest of of those alliances and those relationships and look at it, particularly with respect to Turkey Turkey can can benefit greatly if this is mishandled and the Saudis are our besmirched, and and ended up end up getting harm the the country getting harmed by this. We can't let that happen. The Turks are, I think a greater threat than than this administration realizes. Senator Santorum appreciate it. David Axelrod, Jen Psaki. Thanks very much. A lot more head tonight on the program, their new tough tougher voter, ID laws in effect in some states with the November midterms, just twenty days away. Just ahead. We'll take you to one state where the old voting traditions for one group of residents will be much different when votes are cast next month. Hey, it's Howard Beck, and I've got to buy us Harrison the clippers on Bleacher reports, the forty eight guys about seventy percent vegan base or plan base in every now. And then I give myself the freedom that if I want to go fish, which I do like I keep it open for myself. The full forty eight is now available on Spotify. And of course you can always listen subscribe all the Bleacher report app, apple podcasts, or where ever you listen to podcasts. We're now twenty days away from the November midterm elections. As you probably know if there weren't enough at stake already voter ID laws or the center of a lot of the debate. Democrats are complaining for the most part changes and acted by several states or designed to hurt their turnout Republicans, disagree our senior investigative correspondent drew Griffin tonight, investigates. On the standing rock reservation in North Dakota, Terry, yellow fat for years voted with an ID with no address. In fact, he didn't know his street address. He knew his post office box and that was enough until now no idea why they wanna physical address the post office box. All worked a North Dakota law passed last year and upheld by the supreme court. Last week demands voters in this state and on tribal lands, present a valid ID with an actual street address. While that may sound like it's no big deal to you here on the standing rock reservation and tribal lands across North Dakota. The law is seen to have one purpose. Keep native Americans from voting. It is a very complicated problem because we don't some reservations. They don't have street edge. Arses, majority of them don't have house numbers. So what what they've been utilizing is a PO box. Margaret landed a native American. Outing rights advocate says, just weeks before November's election, some native Americans. Her husband included are scrambling to get new ideas. Just vote. Okay. Neal's landed had no idea. What is street address was he had to call his county emergency coordinator, find out three first avenue. East is what they told me on the phone. The process did take just minutes and he now has a tribal ID. He will be able to vote that it costs anything no fee. That's not the point says white Margaret. It's discriminating disenfranchising to our people to not allow them to vote and it's discouraging on top of that. It's not something to disenfranchise. Anybody l. Jaeger is North Dakota's secretary of still he's trying to implement the new law, which he says is designed to protect the integrity of the vote and what could be simpler. He says than to merely present an ID that says, who you are and where you live pretty simple process. And so other seemed to be making it a lot more than it is. It's pretty simple. Others seem to be saying that you're trying to disenfranchise native American votes, right. Well, we're not. We want every qualified person in the state of North Dakota to be able to vote the backdrop for the push to get this voter. ID law in North Dakota began shortly after democrat, Heidi Heitkamp narrowly won her election for US Senate in two thousand twelve. She won by less than three thousand votes with the backing of native Americans who tend to vote democratic. There is a much bigger story going on here. Laws across the US are being passed to make it harder, not easier to vote since the two thousand sixteen election according to the Brennan center for Justice at New York University. Nine states with Republican state legislatures have passed laws, restricting the vote in Georgia. A law requiring an exact match of voter. Registration information has placed fifty three thousand mostly African American voters on a pending. List in Arkansas. A new photo ID requirement goes into effect this election and in Indiana, the state's use of a nationwide crosscheck system to purge voter rolls was ruled, a violation of the national voter registration act. Why? So many laws take a guess in many places like California, the same person votes. Many times you probably heard about that. There was like to say, oh, that's a conspiracy theory, not a conspiracy theory fucks millions and millions of people. Actually, it is a conspiracy theory. There is no evidence, none that massive voter fraud is taking place anywhere in the United States, North Dakota included. So mister secretary was there, is there a large problem with illegal voting in the state? Well, one thing we can't prove one way or the other in the past we have refer. I cannot prosecute. So in the past we have referred situation. In they haven't been prosecuted. We had a case how many? Well, we just a handful me EDNA Peres with the Brennan center for Justice says these voter fraud laws have little to do with fighting actual voter. Fraud Bernstein said, saying, the kinds of laws that make it harder for people who are poor, traditionally disenfranchised minority groups and folks who generally have a hard time participating in elections. And this is just another barrier for them. Now because of this new law activists, fear, thousands of North Dakota's will not be able to vote. And while CNN has yet to find any evidence to back that up those same activists, say the real effect could be discouraging voters from even showing up with or without proper ID. Drew joins us now. So just explained in inch of these states voters will not be turned away. I mean, they can still vote. They can still meet the requirements to vote. Is that correct? Correct Anderson, and that's the message show up and vote, even if it's a provisional ballot, the poll workers can hopefully help you resolve any issues and to be absolutely transparent. Here, we spent a good deal of time in North Dakota on the phone, working with activists and tribes trying to find even one person who will not be able to vote because of this new law and we couldn't find that person. What active is fear though? Anderson is people who think they may be affected just won't show up that's difficult to measure and just. All right, drew Griffin appreciate the reporting when check in with Christy what he's working on for Cuomo primetime the top of the hour, Chris. How're you doing brother? I'm good how you doing good. We've got new information and new insight tonight insight into what's going on in this hunt for facts with kashogi is that's what it really about with Jamal kashogi finding facts, or is it about buying time? We've got Michael Hayden and Eero some key insights into this process and what doesn't make sense. We also have new information about what Michael Cohen might mean to President Trump and the scope of all the investigations that are going on. He's not talking to prosecutors just about paying women. It's a lot more. It's a lot longer and it could mean things that we have not anticipated in the past, or we're going to take you through all of that. And then I have a closing argument, my friend you're gonna wanna watch. I heard something from the president today that literally almost made me lose a filling from laughing. Now they're not going to give it away. Do you wanna say what you don't? You're not gonna get to keep them guessing. Okay. I don't like that. You have been hiding the most important information that we have tonight. God forbid, there's any other breaking news. I know where you are Anderson. I know where you you are in Arizona and you are getting your just desserts. You are getting the award of all awards for journalists, the Cronkite award for lifetime achievement and you're only thirty seven years old. Plus, you know, thirty seven. I wish. Unless you know, cared brother, you are best you represent the best instincts, the work ethic. Second to none, I have ever seen you make us proud and I am proud to be your friend. People often say to me, man, that Anderson he doesn't like you. You try to make them laugh at never happens. I say he's just that committed to the job. He is all about the job and when he's not on, we're fast friends. Congratulations. Well deserved, I'm proud of you and I'm proud to be your colleague. Congratulations. If I, if I didn't have so much makeup, Chris, you would see me blush. Thank you very much. You? Yes, I probably not. Actually, this is my version of blushes. Yeah, no, I met a, it's you the Cronkite school of journalism and mass communications. It's been a huge honor, and and thank you for your kind words, Chris, appreciate it. I'll see you five minutes from now for Cuomo prime time coming up. Next with the secret service has to say about the incident calling camera involving Jared, Kushner's security detail a reporter and some shoving details on that. Eddie and joining me this week on March madness three sixty five. I've got four some from UCF pick to win the American athletic conference. We just want to be the best. We can never do that. Then they're not pretty well. So tried to March van is three sixty five now at apple podcasts and Spotify. An update. Now, on a story we brought you last night we showed you what happened when CBS news is Erla Burnett tried to ask Jared Kushner. The president's son-in-law who reportedly has close relationship with the Saudi Crown prince about the Royal family's denial of involvement in the disappearance of the Saudi journalists. Here's part of what happened. CBS any coming on. Don't give him. Well, let's we're secret service agents in the video tonight. In a statement, the secret service said it has a long standing practice of respecting first amendment rights of the press and had added quote. The actions were taken solely in response to an abrupt movement by an unknown individual who later identified themselves as a member of the media all well and good. 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