Sunday, March 31, 2019
What happens to survivors victims families after a mass shooting? It's an introduction mass shooting grief one, oh, one meet sandy lawn Phillips since their daughter was murdered nearly seven years ago. They've shown up at most of the major mass shootings offering those in need a kind of survival guide to a brief few can imagine a lesson brother's suicide and a lot of people say you're now part of grew which you never wished you'd be too. We do care about these people. We'd want to help them find their purpose and find their strength. So that they can live. Their new normal. Our adventure? Let us I above the Arctic circle to find out why the earth is warming so fast so far below how far below the surface? Are we right now about? About thirty feet. We met a scientist who enjoys Russian go smokes like a Soviet steel mill and believes these massive bones exposed by warming could bring the extent woolly mammoth back from the dead. That's from as ING. This college point guard isn't in this year's NCAA tournament. But he's one of the best Cinderella story. You'll ever hear. I make up dorming. I'm really in college right now. This is crazy crazy because when we first met shy Queen Dixie number ten. Was number three nine one one seven five at a prison in Connecticut known as the rock is story and the radical program that hopes to rehabilitate prisoners and give them a shot at success. I'm Steve Kroft. I'm Lesley Stahl. I'm Scott Pelley. I'm Anderson Cooper. I'm Bill Whitaker. Those stories tonight on sixty minutes. In just the past two weeks. There have been three deaths by suicide people who in different ways survived mass shootings. Two were teenagers who lived through the massacre at Marjory stoneman Douglas high school in Florida last year. The third was the father of a six year old girl murdered at sandy hook elementary school in Connecticut in two thousand twelve sandy and Lonnie Phillips know firsthand that kind of grief their daughter was killed nearly seven years ago in a mass shooting since then they've made it their mission to help others navigate the public, and sometimes political aftermath these tragedies they travel the country hoping to build a network of survivors and offer victims and families kind of survival guide to grief preparing them for a future. Few can imagine your identity has been stripped from you by their its mother or daddy or father. Or sister, brother? I no longer have that title. I no longer have that relationship. And when it's violence like my cars was that takes a long time to recover from some people think that there's a timetable for Greece. Yeah. Yeah. The five stages of grief. Right. And you go through all five of me think. Okay. Now, I'm done. And they don't tell you know, you get to start it all again, and they're out of sequence a lot of survivors. Just don't know that especially going into it. You might find that what you have done for the last twenty years of your life or thirty years of your life has absolutely no meaning to you anymore. And that was certainly the case for us. It wasn't long after their daughter's murder that sandy Lonnie Phillips quit their jobs. They've gotten rid of most of their belongings and rented out their house. So they can travel around the country to mass shootings hoping to meet survivors and offer help. Scene of a mass shooting is not an easy place to come to can be like walking into a stranger's funeral. We don't know each other yet, but we do now but in grief strangers can quickly become family. You got a second mom here. We sold the Phillips's in Thousand Oaks, California, where twelve people were gunned down at a country music or last November. It is one of the latest stops on their herp breaking journey. Evan lost somebody close to comprehend it. Just days before they arrived here. They were in Pittsburgh, where eleven people were murdered at the tree of life synagogue is so interesting what you're doing. You're not trained, therapists. You're not counselors, and yet you're have upended your lives and reaching out in a very individual way to people at compassion. That's what it is. Not a mine, it's about compassion compassion. We get from those people too. It's not like it's a one way deal. It was in two thousand twelve that their daughter. Jessica Galli was murdered along with eleven others in a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado. She was twenty four and an aspiring sports reporter. Can you take me back to that? He s. The young man that was with her Brent was like a son test, and she decided that she wanted to taking to the Batman movie. And when the shooting happened. They stood up and. Never made it out. Both France arrived. He he was shot trying to save her. He went into paramedic mode immediately. Because that's what he does for living. And the phone rang who call you from inside the. And I could hear the screaming going on in the background. He said there's been a shooting. And I said are you? Okay. And he said, I think I've been shot twice. And I knew them that. Okay. Something's bad. And I said, where's Jesse? Let me said. I tried. And I said is she? Okay. And he said, I did my best I tried. And I said, oh, God Brent told me she's dead. And he said, I'm really sorry. I started screaming, and she was sliding down the wall screaming, and I grabbed her and pick her up to the couch, and she kept beyond just he's dead. It's been six years now almost seven and there's not a day that goes by that we don't still get upset and still cry. Brother's suicide and a lot of people say, you know, you're now part of group which you never wish you'd be an lifetime membership and the cost of the dues might as way way too high. Sandy is sixty eight Launay seventy five twenty one. John they've been living mostly on savings, social security and goodwill. I know you're on a deadline occasionally crashing with friends days doing they started a nonprofit organization. Call saviours empowered to offer advice in kinship in the wake of mass shootings. I get a couple of hours, but also to give families practical information like how to deal with media attention or how to get a body home for a funeral. It's Lonnie just checking in on their things that happen to the families of people who've been shot in a mass killing that do not happen to families of somebody who is died under different circumstances. Exactly. The worst part is finding out that the day or child has been killed that there are already websites that have popped up and Facebook pages that have popped up saying this is a false flag. And this didn't happen. Did you have people saying just go wasn't real? She's cry. Actor a real she wasn't there. He didn't lose it. Outer all the time. Negra song sisters dead Bobby since just because murder. Sandy, son Jordan has been harassed and threatened by a man who like many conspiracy theorists claims. There was no massacre in Aurora. Today's number mother. It's hard to imagine. But similar harassment now happens to families almost every time. There's a mass shooting Ness the worst count of harm. You can do to someone and you're devastated peren become apparent becoming more devastated. Shooting at century theaters. Up to the massacre in Aurora, sandy and Lonnie who were gun owners themselves filed a lawsuit against companies that sold gear and amunition to their daughter's killer over the internet, the judge throughout the case and ordered them to pay more than two hundred thousand dollars to cover defendants legal fees contract with them consulting to declare bankruptcy. And now consult for a gun control group to make ends meet. Right here. But they say they keep that were separate from their outreach to survivors. We don't ever bring up gun TULIO. You never bring up politics or guns advocate. We don't recruit. We don't do any of that stuff until somebody shows an interest, and we tell them, you know, you're not ready yet. The course of their new lives has followed a roadmap of American tragedies. They started in new town. Then went to Isla vista San Bernardino, Orlando loss Vegas Sutherland springs. Parkland Santa Fe, Pittsburgh and Thousand Oaks each massacre is different. But the look sandy and Lonnie see on the faces of those left behind is the same can't believe in the campaign. I want to believe it on Akot and Mitch warrants seventeen year old son nNcholas who had just turned a swimming scholarship to college was murdered with sixteen others in parkland, Florida last year, I expect the come home any day, Walter the house such a great kid Nick's younger brother, Alex who was grazed by a bullet doesn't talk much about what happened. He was in a classroom across the hall from Knicks when the shooting began their parents were nearby. Waiting for school to let out Alex called us and said mama in back of an ambulance. I was hitting the back of the head. And in my mind, I didn't really worry about nNcholas because there's three thousand five hundred that that school one child shot. What's the odds of chew of my kids being shot? And I took off to the hospital finesse admit, you can wait for nNcholas and. Yeah. They waited for twelve hours before finally being told nNcholas was dead within days, a mutual friend connected them with sandy and Lonnie Phillips. Remember that first meeting? Yeah. Oh, of course, of course, they had a houseful of people we felt a little bit like we were intruding on a very private moment, which we were. But for a good reason, I I was a little skeptical in the beginning. And I'm thinking to myself, what do they want from us? Why are they here after speak until them which to we lasted for three hours three hours, though? Yeah. And they took the time just a year, and when not here Fran reason Fien ties because you're in a place. That's just not of this normal life. Can can't imagine when you open house in the morning. You're just like why should I get up today? Why should I do that? And it's just so painful to feel this pain the whole day, and then to meet somebody who has been through this and six year layers, and they're getting out of sandy and actually see a way through potentially. Right. What are some of the things you kind of the list of things? You worn a grieving parent list is I know you don't wanna get out of bed right now. But you're gonna live through this in spite of it just know that it's going to take you a long time. That's number one. Number two, people are ripping you off right now as we're speaking there's probably a gofundme page somewhere and raising funds for the families and that money goes into their Bank account. You'll never see it. So be careful who you trust. So it's an introduction mass shooting grief one, oh, one to help them keep up the Phillips's or trying to create a net. Work of survivors who can quickly respond to mass shootings anywhere in the country. Volunteers like, Shannon, Caputo she met sandy and Lonnie in two thousand seventeen after surviving the massacre at a music festival in Las Vegas when I first met them. I asked him if I could go to parkland with them because that was after Vegas, and she was like, no, Honey, you're not ready for this yet. She's telling her story, and I'm listening to her and going. Shanna showed Cindy, the cellphone video she unintentionally recorded of the shooting. And I'm watching the video I'm going. This is triggering me. I can't imagine what she has really gone through. What was happening around? You people were going down right away. I could hear the bullets whizzing right past my head. You would just see them like jerk. And I don't know if I can say this. But you would see them just explode. Gunfire. Lasted more than ten minutes. Fifty eight people were killed. For weeks afterward Shanna says she was hardly able to leave her house sandy advise her to see a therapist who specializes in severe trauma after about four or five months of therapy. I was like a walnut net cracked open. And I finally cried about it. And I called sandy. And I'm like, I cried I was all excited, and I said, I'm actually very happy. Now, you can begin to put things together and and create new and now she's doing incredible work. So this has been growing really ever since the the Caputo is doing started last fall after the borsch shooting in Thousand Oaks, California, which is just miles from her house. She's not trying to help some of those providers the way sandy and Lonnie Phillips helped her wouldn't it be easier for you to not be immersed in the world mesh shootings, you are immersed in a very. We don't see to start. We say we see it as shedding a little light. We care about these people. We'd want to help them find their purpose and find their strength. So that they can live. Their new normal. Temperatures in the Arctic continued to warm twice as fast as the rest of the world. That's according to the US government's latest climate report the past five years in the Arctic have been the warmest there since records began in nineteen hundred decades ago and eccentric Russian geophysicist warned that frozen soil called permafrost contained enough greenhouse gas itself to pose a threat to the climate. If it ever melted science scoffed at Sarah gaysumov warning. But now that the permafrost is collapsing. The world is listening recently, we traveled to the Siberian Arctic to meet seem off who has devised a scheme to save the world in a place that he named for the last ice age Pleistocene park. Hour trip took three days and our final leg in an adventure of geoscience was on an 'aeronautics fossil a Soviet era. Antonoff we approach to Siberia, we had never seen in our imaginations of forest touching the horizon in a land sequined with lakes. This was far north even by a Siberian, compass above the Arctic circle where the Kolyma river fills the east Siberian sea fifteen time zones from New York, we found the aspiring ghost town of churston a trading port in Soviet times church. Ski was gutted by the fall of communism losing eighty percent of its residents. There's not much reason to visit unless like many scientists today, you're beating path to the northeast scientific station to meet its founder sixty three year old. Cmo? Hello. Hello. I'm scott. See there. He welcomed us in summer when fire read enjoys a few weeks of liberation but forty Siberian winters remained indelible on Z moths face the price of solitude for a geophysicist who long to be remote from his communist bosses when people hear the word Siberia, they think about exile. But it sounds to me like exiles exactly what you had in mind. Yes. Problems along the winters winters are long as ever but not as cold this ground was once so icy humankind named it permafrost, but in the nineteen nineties EMA noticed it wasn't so permanent. Yep. It's. He can remember when his shovel wouldn't bite the frozen surface. Now, he's down more than six feet. Soil which was melted than some freeze. Everywhere. But the Simba now in all states. What does that tell you? This is a warning to the world because organic matter in the permafrost plants and animals has been frozen for hundreds of thousands of years as it thaws microbes consume that organic matter and release carbon dioxide and methane greenhouse gases, which contribute to a warmer climate. We just pulled this up out of the hole and it's burning my fingers at so cold. Yes foil. These Volta Volta is in five minutes, you'll be years ago Zee moth calculated there is enough carbon in permafrost to threaten the world. But big science gave that idea a cold shoulder, maybe in part because of ZIM himself. He endures Siberian winters when most Russians had south he enjoys a refreshing Bubka from time to time smokes, like a Soviet steel mill and. Often just lies down to think. I sometimes describe on this somewhere between a madman and genius. Max homes is a leading climate scientists and deputy director of the woods hole research center in Massachusetts. He told us ZIM offs key discovery was that Siberian permafrost held far more carbon than anyone knew when Zima made this observation. He couldn't get his papers published in scientific journals. It can take a while to get papers published that fly in the face of conventional wisdom, but science warmed seem off theory. And now he's published dozens of papers in science journals. Max homes has made several visits to seem off station. The estimates of how much carbon lack of permafrost keep going up and most of us were probably thinking about upper meter the upper three theater, so. That's right. If you go down much deeper than that carbon contents very low, but what's special about this area where Zima off is carbon content of the permafrost extends to much greater depth. So consequently, there's an awful lot of carbonates locked up there. Scientists has to mate there is more greenhouse gas in permafrost, Ben in all of the world's remaining oil, natural gas and coal. There's no consensus about how much of it could be released. How far below the surface? Are we right now? Right now, we're about to about thirty feet. Day. Ten times deeper originally thought we found the remains of ice age plants and microbes. Simples was e moths chief collaborator. His son Nikita. Carbon cold carbon von? Makita see moth grew up here with his father and sensibly move south for college leaving behind the old man and the river, but Nikitas plan to be a mathematician melted away. When Sergei asked his son to return to see what he had seen a few hours from the research station. There's a vast subsidence of permafrost sort of rolling landslide called davonte yard geology is a slow science. But here, it's almost a spectator sport. The bones of extinct woolly mammoths or thawing after more than twelve thousand years the collapse of frozen earth is happening in much of the Arctic including Alaska twenty five percent of the northern hemisphere is permafrost. The seam offs have the theory, many would say a crazy idea for defusing the carbon bond they want to cool the permafrost by returning part of Siberia to the ice age were at least what it looked like in those days known as the Pleistocene era. If we were standing on this hill in the Pleistocene era. What would we see? No, it's looks like a sense of on aunt, you'll see round one sows of Mammas don't maybe five thousand buys it might be then thousands. Of course, if it owns this place and also alliance wyans. Yes. It was mine pit at slides you sere gays EMA told us when men became the main predator, the woolly mammoth and other large grazers were hunted to extinction forest replaced grasslands and that made Siberia vulnerable to a warming climate because trees trap more heat than grass and winter temperatures forty below can't freeze the permafrost if there are no herds of animals to trample. The insulating snow. As a demonstration project. They call Pleistocene park Nikita ZIM off is knocking down trees over fifty four square miles and restocking the big grazers ZIM offs. Believe returning the land to its Icee Japan will cool the permafrost even in a warming world, you're trying to bring the animals back. Now. How can you do that physically in awe morally, what's? All three, but let's start with physically you need what hundreds of thousands millions of these calls unit to start with something second you need to prove people that the concept book and to prove that Concentra cue for many things you don't need meetings famous. You brought up the moral issue of bringing the animals in here. What do you mean by that? I mean, some people say you're playing God, you know, I think it's look me plan. God it was our SS who was playing got fifteen thousand years ago came and the dropped the number of worldwide, and we are just trying to get his back. This is where the offs experiment gets crazier. What they need is the greatest tree crusher of the last twenty thousand years, and they are surrounded with evidence of the once abundant woolly mammoth that's raising. Young female, young female mammoth. This least twenty twenty five pounds. Do you need the woolly mammoth to bring all of this back in the park. It's like do you need your right arm to leave and do your job. No. You don't need it. But the with your arm. You will do it better. So same mama's today one place you might get a willy mammoth is in Boston Massachusetts, specifically in the lab of Harper geneticist, George church Sergei is hoping that you're going to deliver a mammoth to him. Can you do that? I think he's hoping that we will deliver an animal that is very similar to the ones that used to roam there when the cold resistant, elephants, that's what he would like churches. Another scientist who's made the trek to seem offs world. He returned to his renown genetic slab with DNA from mammoth bones. If you look at the twenty genomes of the of the elephants, there's lots of evidence of lots of interbreeding all over the place among the different so-called species. So in a way, we're just recreating hybrid could easily have existed windy. You imagine you might be able to pull up a truck and deliver this creature to place a scene part? I would say that probably in five years will know, whether we can get the store for for mice and the navy pigs and elephants, and then if we can get embryos to grow in the laboratory all the way to term than and is probably a decade. The seam offs have not convinced everyone in climate science. Critics say they lack long-term temperature records of the permafrost and their work is restricted to a relatively small area. You know to the untrained eye. Someone could come away from a meeting with Sarah gay thinking that he's a crackpot. Yeah. That's right. I mean, he he kind of plays the part, but as a climate scientist, how do you evaluate him? I think he's usually right? Certainly he has controversial ideas analyze end up being supported over time. What do you think of his concept of placing park? Fascinating theory. I'm fascinated by the science that can be done to figure out if it's correct Gladis pursuing this. We need to think about solutions Zeman's have little funding for their big idea. The government donated the land in their income flows from the Rin that they charge visiting scientists for the research station. There's is science on a shoestring with a very long time. Sergei you've devoted your life to this. But I wonder why you thought it was important that Nikita devote his life to this. Simplist? How experiment that slunk Diamox payment gates fates it'll take decades. Yes, it's also sink about my grand, grad shoot. They have some intriguing results in the early days of place to seen park data show. The permafrost is becoming colder where he trapping trees have been cut down. It's a little more weight on the genius side of the madman scale, and perhaps early evidence that resurrecting the future of the world may depend on burying Siberia's past. One of the more radical attempts at prison reform is taking place in for boating. Connecticut prison nicknamed the rock it's a two year old program based on therapy for eighteen to twenty five year old prisoners whose brains science shows are still developing and their behavior more likely to change the idea came from Germany where the main objective of prison is rehabilitation, and we're the recidivism rate is about half that of the US we were in Germany four years ago. When then Connecticut governor Dan on the Loyd toward the prison system. He returned home inspired and launched the small German style program at the rock. It's too early to tell whether it will reduce recidivism, but we wanted to see how the German approach is being tested in America. So we went to Connecticut, by way of a slight detour to the northeast corner. Of maine. The university of Maine at press Kyle is small in the world of college basketball. But for number ten Shaikh win Dick's being a student athlete. Here is the biggest shot of his life. Around a place where I could just be me. And like work myself live on my James is wonderful to me. I've heard that you're the best player on the team. Hopefully. How about in the classroom? I actually made the dean list do point eight always it seems improbable like I wake up in my dorm Blang. I'm really in college right now. This is crazy. It's crazy crazy because when we first met him when you're at presque isle number ten. Was number three nine one one seven five serving a four year sentence for felony check fraud at Cheshire Correctional Institution a maximum security prison in central Connecticut that houses about thirteen hundred prisoners warden, Scott fi has spent thirty years working in the state prison system. He told us Cheshire corrections officers, whereas firm and unyielding as the century old prison walls, anything about betrays old school corrections old school mentality. That is Cheshire. What gets you here to Cheshire? We have everybody from. Short term is to everything all the way up to including serial killer. There are some some bad people here. Told us prisoners can be locked up twenty two hours a day with just an hour of recreation in the morning and afternoon. So when former governor Dan Malloy asked him to build a program modeled on the prisons he'd toward in Germany, which are much more relaxed focused on counseling and personal growth. Perfect told us he was dumbfounded that you think. It was crazy. I thought it was a little bit crazy. These individuals are going to be getting out, and they don't go to a special community just for offenders. They're all around us. And would you rather have a better product coming out? Or would you rather have a worst product coming out and living next to you? So warden Urfi got to work. He closed down solitary confinement win and opened up a sanctuary for self improvement for about fifty young inmates whose crimes range from drugs to violent assault. They have to apply to get into the program called true for truthful, respectful. Understanding and elevating to success. This looks like a standard prison. Yes. What's going on here that I'm not see you wouldn't have correctional officers playing board games with the that's just not done in general population. I mean, everybody here you can tell just totally relaxed totally inmates turned one cell into a yoga studios splashed with a colorful mural to set the mood prisoners and staff mingle freely. The prisoners are out of their cells from morning tonight, there days filled with classes and counseling, we gotta use stuff that we've been through and stuff that or the pain, and we got to turn it the motivation. It's to prison, but the general atmosphere is lighter here. It can be hid spinning for corrections officers or ridge inally trained to guard with an iron fist. Now they joined prisoners in lip sync contests. This might seem frivolous. But it's a serious part of the true experiment. The goal to rebuild these men with experiences structure and discipline. They might not have had before. But the head of the Cheshire corrections officers union told us true is turning prison into summer camp. If is too lenient, they think puts the corrections officers at risk not at all not at all numbers. Don't lie. Are incident rate is a lot lower and true than it is in general population. In the general population violence is common. Yellow uniforms. Ide- dangerous convicts warden Urfi says in the two years of true. There hasn't been a single fistfight or assault on staff. I don't know how I don't know why. But it's working Lieutenant Daniel Quinn was brought up using the old school approach. Now, he finds himself defending the true. So what were you hearing from your fellow officers who are not in this unit? We're here to wipe their noses cookies amounts. That's when I Lieutenant Ashley McCarthy told us in her nine years in corrections. She's never experienced anything like this. You don't have to put on the face of strength one hundred percent of the time because that's what you have to do in turmoil population. You can't show a weakness or a deficiency here. It's more human what it is as kind of like going into LA La Land from general. Population. But they quickly see that everybody is here to help. What about punishment? You've got guys in here who committed terrible crimes their punishment is their incarceration. It's not our job as correctional professionals to punish somebody even more while they're incarcerated true aims to recast young lives with incentives, repeating bad behavior. Like profanity and bad attitude has gotten twelve ship back to the general population good behavior earns benefits like longer family visits movies. Classes a prison job when shy Quin Dick's ended up here in truth. He thought this can't be real. Just the stuff. They were saying I never heard of it for like what the cracks him officers and staff here care about you. You get a second chance at life. You take serious thought all that was BS definitely until corrections officer James Vassar took an interest in him. Impressed by shy Quin Dick's talent. And repentance officer Vasser said he'd helped him pursue his dream of playing basketball in college. Did you believe in at the time? I believe would you see him? I seen the kid with talent. Mistake for months Vassar called college coaches around the country. Slowly, dick started to believe we still needed to get accepted into the college. We still need a judge to prove sentence modification. So they're all these other steps with your long shots. And boy, we were hitting them. Shy Quin Dick's could see a way out fest him. She cheer. You was lost at twenty two. He was sentenced to thirteen years in Cheshire for robbing convenience stores and a Bank. He told us he will selfish and violent. What's that like being thrown into the general population in a Laxman security prison? It's really scary at first so he put on a front and you act like a tough. And I'm hoping people don't see how scared I am. And just the mess. That's going on inside twenty two hours a day in the cell. Yes. Just waiting be Leto occasional when we're in earthy selected him for the true unit should cheer. You didn't care about improving himself. He just wanted out of his cell, but immediately found himself in a different world to go. Some type of empathy have to care central to the program is intense. Pensive counseling through peer and self criticism prisoners are forced to face the demons and behavior that put them behind bars. How will you raise? Did you have love did, you know, love compassion, because I didn't even know my mother the warden told us today, there's a lot of crying that goes on up here. The truth. Agree with that. What is made you cry? My family. The problem with awareness and understanding the pain you've caused people. Is that you realize how much pain you've caused the people that love you. And once you have to face that. And look at yourself in the mirror that's tough to prepare the prisoners for life outside Cheshire's walls. Warden Urfi tap, some unlikely helpers respected older prisoners serving life sentences there now training to serve as mentors for the young men in troop ish car Howard was one of the first to sign on. Why all we knew we was going to try to stop these cats from become us because you don't want this car Howard shot and killed two men in a fight over drug turf in New Haven in prison, he assaulted inmates and staff and spend a total of five and a half years in solitary confinement before deciding to take a different path if his expert is screwing up a PHD quizzes could tell you with tear-gas taste late. I can tell you what it feels like to watch your family. See you get sentenced to life without parole, and I can tell you the decisions I made to get to that at the choices yours Howard and twenty other lifers are lighting attended fathers. They enforce unit rules during last recommended that you attitude working with staff, they constantly monitor the young offenders behavior and assess their progress at regular feedback sessions always tried to encourage you to speak a little more. If you have a lot of wisdom to give to your peers, many people outside of Krizan would think that someone who is in for life wouldn't necessarily be the kind of person you'd expect or want to be teaching you life lessons. So what have they done to help? You. They've helped me learn how to speak in a way that I articulate my thoughts and emotions is just getting mad and wanting to hit something should cheer. You told us he has grown. On under their guidance. He's earned the right to go to work every day in the prison. Shop. He now enjoys warm visits with his family. I feel like everybody has a basic human decency is that has to be nurtured to bring it out. And that's what happens to you in this program. If you let it. If you let it the greatest gift is when they tell me to my face. I'm not changing and in five months later be on their best behavior. You're in here for life. You could just sit there and say to heck with all this. So what are you getting out of this? I don't have to die a waste. Guys, all the time and gave me purpose to live. Give me something to leave. Bonn. For more than one hundred years. The rock has been a hard place, the true unit host to prove a softer touch can yield better results officer James Vassar convinced coach Dan Kane at press. Kyle to take a shot on a prison inmate. Now, Shaikh Winn Dixie is a big man on campus and the pride of the true unit. His jersey hangs on the wall. A month after leaving. He was back at Cheshire not as a repeat offender, but inspiration try not to cry. I know me. Ready to cry mouse. So happy to see talking about. I think about all the every day. Oh, sort of Donna do keep your grades up. Stay out of here. Right. Yeah. Definitely. I don't forget it when you get in the NBA. I'm Bill Whitaker. We'll be back next week with another addition of sixty minutes.