Washington Governor Jay Inslee
Welcome to it's all political the San Francisco Chronicle political podcast. I'm Joe Garafolo the chronicle senior political writer and today on the podcast. Our guest is another presidential candidate governor. Jay Inslee of Washington inslee has made climate change the focus of his campaign. What he's he talks about a lot of other things too because frankly Washington state is far ahead of California and a lot of different measures? We'll talk to about it. Actually we won't the big man John Wilder. Myth is our guest hosts for today's podcast next Jay Inslee with the big man on it's all political in the questions the controversy the analysis Muller Testifies Live all day tomorrow and only Fox News Channel delivers the coverage you can trust when Muller contradict his own report Lord or reaffirm its Findings Watch Brandon Martha anchor our all day special coverage plus stay with our prime time is shown Tucker and Laura break it down and weigh in on what it all means for the President Special Coverage Starts Live all day tomorrow only on the Fox News Channel This is John Wilder myth sitting in for Joe Garafolo Leon. It's all political and our guest today is Washington Governor Jay Inslee candidate for president one of many and we're going to start right out governor with the obvious question. Why are you running for president? <hes> that is a very good question. I appreciate you asking it and it has a simple answer. I've been a two-term governor of Washington. State had a lot success or got the best economy in the country have done some really good progressive things but several months ago <hes> <hes> my wife and I were talking about this <hes> potential decision and I just decided that on my last day on earth I wanted to be able to look at my three grandkids and say I did everything humanly possible for you to prevent you from being swallowed whole by the climate crisis and so I'm running for president because I firmly believe that defeating the Climate Crisis Ah has to be the number one priority the United States fundamentally. That's why running a lot other things in my portfolio to talk about but I do believe that are very survival as civilization in a way that we recognize it is dependent and our ability to choose the president that will make this a priority and has a plan to get that job done so that's why I'm here this morning. Just about everybody out there and there's as we know plenty of people out there WANNA be president say well climates really important. There's a green new deal and all sorts of stuff what y you what are you bring this race that the other candidates don't well look. There's a lot of talent in the field and all out of the candidates I've already selected four or five potential vice president so you know my workout just fine in the long run but but seriously obviously <hes> I think that the moment demands <hes> president was certain qualities and and vision statements <hes> number one someone who will make defeating the climate crisis and building a clean energy economy the number one priority and the reason is is <hes> I was in Congress for sixteen years and I understand this. If it is not job one it simply will not get done so the very first job of governing is to choose to govern is to choose and I think we have to realize realize that this <hes> emergency is so vital to our survival as a country that it has to be the top priority that's number one and so far. I'm the only candidate who has made a pledge to make this a top priority to do what is necessary. Secondly <hes> <hes> if you look at our vision statements mine is unique it has been called the gold standard by Representative Cossio Cortez. It's been given as and top ratings by Greenpeace and the seal awards and data for progress virtually everyone who is evaluated the climate proposals of the candidates have reached the same conclusion which isn't mine is top ranked in the reason is because it does the things that are necessary to get this job done and frankly the other candidates. I think fall short in this regard look we have to transition off of coal in ten years. This is simply a scientific reality. We have to transition off a fossil fuel in the next decade and a half and mine is the only plan that has a as a system to actually guarantee that we will accomplish those goals so what I would say about my vision is based on science sciences dictated are timelines and sciences something we need to fall and the third is that I think I'm unique is recognizing the economic potential of this clean energy revolution and this is something that I've had a conviction for a long time I was here in San Francisco twelve years ago. <hes> after after I wrote a book about the clean energy economy a vision statement of how to build a clean energy economy and how to put people to work doing it so then I went and <hes> helped found the U._S. climate alliance with Governor Brown he did fantastic work on this subject so this has been and longtime passion and commitment of mine and I think I've made the right prioritization with the right time lines with the right optimistic view that this is an economic success story if we'll just accept it so I think I'm unique in the field. Let's dig D- <hes> little deeper into the environmental question there one thing. I guess it's fair to say that we're well. You say the stuff is really important. You're not necessarily saying it's going to be really easy. <hes> there are a lot of changes a lot of changes that would have commit to the country in the way things are operating now. Tell me how do we go what actually needs to be done. And how do we go about doing well. This is a change. It is a big change but we have managed changes before. Four in the United States we've been very successful at managing change. This is why our economy is so vital. We've had a change from the horse to the steam powered engine. We've had a change from Kobe steam to to fossil fuel base transportation systems. This is just another metamorphosis that we need to go through. We need to find a way for transportation system not to be powered by oil and gas because that is incompatible with sorta life as we know it <hes> because it's causing in a climate change we have to <hes> decarbonised electrical grids so that we power our electricity with things other than coal and natural gas. We know that we have to make our buildings much energy efficient so we don't waste so much energy did you. How do we go about doing this? However it's it's one thing that come and right nice plans and say we're GONNA make this transition in ten years been you know getting <hes> getting gas powered automobiles and trucks off the off the road and fifteen years moving from the <hes> the fossil fuel based and some of this other stuff? It's how do you actually do the physical thing. Make that physical change over without you know making a real problem with the economy so we have the technology. All we need is the will to actually do this and this is what should be actually encouraging to us as a nation. We know we have electric cars because we have today. I'm driving electric car over two hundred miles arrange. It's built by U._A._W.. Union members in Michigan we have over thirty percent of the electricity in Iowa. Today comes from wind turbines solar is now growing at an incredible pace in part because the prices come down at eighty percent what we lack so far is leadership to simply adopt the requirements that we do these things so what in my plan it's over one hundred pages and I welcome people look at it generally dot com. It's the gold standard because it uses as the regulatory authority of the United States in the ways that we need to work so my plan basically says we need a federal law <hes> that simply says we are not going to be using coal in our utility system <hes> ten years from now and that is a manageable legally defensible constitutionally allowed thing to do it is exactly what we've done in so many other measures in the past look <hes> when I was in college I went to University of Washington and you you can see Mount Ranier night in the early nineteen seventies because of the smog and Uncle Sam said look we'd like to breathe some clean air and it passed a rule it says we're GONNA have cars with catalytic converters and the auto industry said Oh no we can't do that. Oh bankrupt America cars will cost four hundred thousand dollars or whatever and we did it and within years you can see Mount Ranier because the industry responded. We just simply have to do the things like that that we have done so many times before that have been successful and I think if you look at our environmental record in this country we've been supremely successful when we actually have acted we simply need to act now. The reason this is tenable is that it's happening today. This transition is happening today. You you're seeing it. <hes> you know at lunch with the guy who has a company called. Pick me solar. Who's an entrepreneur doing really well here in California that three days ago I was at the inauguration of the largest solar manufacturer of solar cells North American Bellingham Washington today clean energy jobs are growing twice as fast as the U._S.? Economy so this transition is taking place we just need to accelerate it and the reason we need to accelerate it is that the science tells us that we have to do the things that my plan calls for or goose's cooked and we know that the wages of that failure of leadership when I was in Paradise California <hes> seeing those houses burned down and Agora hills talking to Marsha Moss watching her cry but the loss of her mobile home that's now puddle of aluminum when I talked to the farmers in Iowa that can't plant because of the flooding in the people in Miami her losing their homes because they're being inundated. I think it's time for for leadership and we need to have somebody who won't be timid about this who actually confront the fossil fuel industry and frankly my plan is the only one that does that <hes> you have to be. We'll look to seals in the eye and say you need to stand down. We need to make this transition and I have demonstrated that time and time again of willingness has to do that in the past the transitions that we've made though have basically come from down up I mean people decided the cars were better because they were better than horses and everything like that. <hes> let's move from kerosene to electricity and everything it was the ground up people made those decisions and they happened over years. This will be top down. This'll be the government saying you have to do this that car you. Having your driveway has got to be gone by this time and you will buy an electric car not have a car at all so you deal with that well. I deal with people getting mad about that first off. It's it's bottom up. It's not top down. It's it's the democratic process and work of electoral division. It's the government telling you this is what you have to the government doing what has successfully done when it said we want cleaner cars ours and we want less smoke stack and we want less poison's coming out of industry and this has been very successful when we have done it and so that's what we need is to jump start now. Let me suggest that that by the tone of your voice you suggest that all governmental intellectual is evil. I disagree with that fundamentally and let me tell you why <hes> you know I'm old enough to remember when John F.. Kennedy said we're going to go to the moon and bring him back safely in ten years and he he organized United States government around that principle oh and we went and by the way he didn't say we're going halfway to the moon. He said we're going all the way to the moon and that's what we need to do today. We know that we can mobilize industrial might of the United States around a unified purpose and people who say we can't do that I really. You think sell America's short and here's just one little factoid to chew on one thousand nine hundred forty we made exactly seventy GPS so the whole auto industry of the United States made seventy GPS Uncle Sam then got involved involved and said we have another national crisis that we have to respond to by nineteen forty five. We've made six hundred forty five thousand jeet S- that's the type of transition were capable of making and no we're not gonNA Yank People's cars cars out of their driveways but we are going to do is sane starting ten years from now we need the industry to produce electric cars when we asked the industry to make gps they did it and when we asked the industry to make electric cars. They're going to due in part because they're doing it today. We now have fifty thousand electric cars on the road in my state in going very very rapidly so these are transitions we are capable of making. We ought to have confidence in our ability to do it. We simply new leadership to get this job. I've done in the past governors have had a pretty good track record running for President Ronald Reagan Jimmy Carter George W Bush Bill Clinton this time however the three of you that our governors haven't gotten much traction attraction out. Why do you see that I mean it's you Steve Book of <hes> Montana and John Hickenlooper former governor Colorado so what's what's the problem which changed well? I think <hes> first off it's it's still early in the process. I know it doesn't seem like that to you but those governors are pretty much where <hes> Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton were at this stage of the preceding because they did not have national profiles but Carter and Clinton did okay and I'm not saying I have the same same capabilities of either of those of those presidents but we governors do not start with national profiles. We're still introducing ourselves to the to the country. <hes> what has changed a little bit is the media because of media has become much. It's more centralized around Washington D._C.. And there's a lot less local coverage bemoaned that frankly we've had a reduction in the newspaper coverage even in my state probably it's thirty percent what it used to be so that has changed and the senators have some advantages ages because they have ten million dollars in count on day one when they start they stockpile the money while they're waiting to run for president so we start <hes> in a place that we we need to climb faster and we're we're in part of that climb in what I'm finding. Is that the more people who here about this central message that I have but also hear about the experience that I've had <hes> helping create the best economy in the United States. We're growing. We had a great a meeting and Pacific palisades yesterday. We're having a meeting today and so we're growing what the governor's offer that a a senator maiden might not well. I think leadership can come from any particular <hes> you know source of of of experience but having been a state legislator and a member of Congress for about twenty years ears I can tell you that I'm one hell of a lot better potential president <hes> today than I was six years ago when I had not served as a chief executive so I have learned like you do in any job art of making taking priority decisions in figuring out how to work with the legislature and figuring out how to good do good vetting decisions to run an organization. We've been very proud of the lean management systems that I've embedded that have helped our government function <hes> <hes> more more freely and I have simply had a record of frankly tremendous success around progressive values <hes>. I'm proud that we under my leadership now have the the highest minimum wage in the United States. We have passed the single most robust family medical leave policies in the United States. I'm proud that this year I help fight for and win. The largest educator pay raise in the United States is a son of a biology teacher. I feel strongly about that. We're radical in Washington Washington. We believe women should be the same as men so we've now past the best gender pay equity in the United States. We need universal coverage so we've taken a big step and healthcare bypassing the very first public option in the United States and we have signed the first very first net neutrality bill which is so important to freedom on the Internet so as an executive. I have a portfolio of success that I think people might find have interest when they decide who they want to lead this country so <hes> climate changes a priority but my experiences evalu- now you have a very interesting history as far as <hes> servicing Congress goes you serve a number of years in Congress but from two separate districts to very very different districts your first time out I believe it was in the Yakima area which is a pretty rural area in pretty much egg-based out there. I think then more recently you were up in the in and around Seattle at suburbs <hes> which is about as urban as Washington in state gets how much what we've been doing in the country is trying to reconcile urban areas with the rural areas. What are the differences in? How do you do that reconciliation? How did you find why I've had success as a governor doing that? What <hes> even in a bipartisan basis <hes> I had a Republican Senate the first four years and even with that sometimes obstacle <hes> we were able to pass <hes> the biggest transportation infrastructure bill and are probably our state's history? They can't build a bird house in D._c.. We passed one of the largest educational <hes> packages of billions of dollars a new money including for special education the like and we passed even with the Republican Senate. I got through the best paid family medical leave act the United States so I have been able to achieve real success even with Republican Senate but you also have to be you look at you. GotTa be true to your convictions in when I represented a Republican district is very. Very small town in eastern Washington <hes> one of the moments I remember when the salt weapon bill came up to ban assault weapons and I knew that if I voted for the assault weapon ban I would be losing my congressional seat but I voted to ban assault weapons and I did lose my seat but I have never regretted that vote for a heartbeat. It was the right vote man. It's the right vote now and now as governor <hes> we have the on the run. We've now past three major commonsense gun safety safety legislation. Somebody initiative and I intend to have the N._R._A.. In the run nationally so I think I've demonstrated the ability to work across the aisle when possible unnecessary but I've also shown a little spine having stood up against the Iraq war and glass-steagall repeal and a whole bunch even talking about the partisan partisan divide there's that rural urban divide with people having very different interest in in a number of respects <hes> you know I mean housing and things like that. There's much more concerned about those in urban areas <hes> certainly many people in urban areas. I found <hes> believed that all their food comes from produce Isle Safeway and that's very different from the way people in the agriculture areas feel how do you how do you bridge that divide which is seen throughout the country well. I think it's by meeting people where they live and understanding their lives and I think you described my my career as interesting. That's what my the adjective we use in our family meaning in pathetic and I don't know if that's what you are not but but I have had an experience that I think uniquely <hes> allows me to understand a lot of folks. I think I'm the only might be the only one who who's grown ALFALFA. I lived in eastern Washington and I represented represented an agricultural based industry so I've been very knowledgeable and adept at working on agricultural all about apple juice right knew about apple juice. I lived in the best apple country in in in the world actually so having sort of representative small small town I was kind of joke is Red Oak Iowa when I go there and campaign just feels like I'm home in Ceelo Washington's very similar so knowing agricultural side of our state knowing those issues having fought to get apples into Japan through a trade barrier having pass through the Yakima River enhancement bill which was a major bill to help irrigation and fish habitat as a freshman congressman those things suit me to understand <hes> multiple tech multiple industries and I think that <hes> will serve well in the White House potentially next week you're on stage with the the rest of the Democratic primary crew and <hes> it's a chance for get nationally known. Let people see but people here you. What message do you want to put <music> out during that debate? If with your miniature five minutes or ten minutes of time well one of the things that I think <hes> it is very important for my party not just my candidacy is to fulfill our responsibility is the last last and best hope of mankind and I really believe that we had one more chance to to tackle climate change and that's the next administration and the only hope for the world at this point is the Democratic Party to nominate a candidate who really really has the commitment in the chops and the experience and the vision to fulfill that that requirement so I I've been very dissatisfied so far in the first debate we have just a few minutes out of two hours to talk about what is the existential crisis for the United States so I will be centrally focused to make sure that we talk about that. Issue <hes> and I do believe that <hes> I have a unique vision and prioritization and <hes> I think the other candidates ought to be called up to answer what they're proposing to do or not proposing seen to do so certainly. I hope that that is a major discussion but all of the issues I'll be happy to talk about. Including my record on immigration is the first governor to stand up against the Muslim ban and I'm proud of that record because we believe in diversity in my state as a candidate WHO's advanced healthcare reform <hes> in my state as a candidate who has stood up against powerful interests be it <hes> the banking industry when I voted against the repeal of glass steagle or George Bush when I voted against Iraq war or the N._R._A.. In those are things that I'm happy to to talk about the elephant in the room though for you and some of the other lesser known candidates is that this could be your last chance to be in the debate <hes> in the real realclearpolitics their politics <hes> poll polls last. I checked your at about four tenths of a percent and it needs to get you need to get the two percent to make that next debate and September. Are you going to do that. Is there a point where you're going to say I can't do this anymore. It's not going to happen. I have to think of something else. We're planning for success and by the way since you've brought this subject up but not only being a two percent but all the candidates have to have one hundred thirty thousand individual donors by the end of August and I want to preserve everyone's free speech rights to go to Jane's DOT COM and send a dollar to make sure that I have one hundred thirty thousand donors and I'm serious about that if people agree with what I'm talking about today and they want to see climate change on the debate stage I would welcome them going to Jhansi Dot com and helping out to some degree so we're looking for. We're looking upward. I've always started as an underdog and beat Republicans. I look forward to it again governor. Thank you for your time. Thank you shit. You're showing you bessis John Wilder within then it's all political and thank you for listening. 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