Basin Views Podcast: Thursday, May 2, 2019 -- Joma Films "Phoenix, Oregon" production
The heralded news news. Learn is now. Empowering the community base slow. The news your news with falls, Oregon. Empowering the community and serving mclamb basin. This is the early news facing these pop. Greetings, welcome to base and views. A heralded news podcast, featuring interviews with local experts discussing issues important to the climate basin. I'm Curtly with the herald news this week. We are joined by a trio the team behind Joma films, Gary in any Lundgren Ashland as well as Louis Rodriguez creators of the film, Phoenix, Oregon, which was shot last year here in Klamath falls. The film is now making its Klamath basin debut tonight on Thursday may second pelican cinemas with two screens of the movie. Gerry Anne, Louis. Thank you so much for taking the time out of your schedule to join us. Thank you. Thanks. Well, I I want to get into a little bit of personal background to get to know our guest before we really delve into the film, and and everything about it. So let's start off with Gary a little bit about yourself, please. I. I. Ever since. I can remember it loved movies. I was big movie fan even as early as twelve thirteen fourteen years old began making super eight films, and yeah, it just stuck with me. I was cinema file and high school and didn't become real to me until college. When I realized that, hey, this is something maybe I could pursue to try to do. I was an English major in college. You know was love storytelling and left movies. That's when I after got my English degree plied to film school and went to film school in Pasadena at art center, college of design, and yeah, the rest is history. It's been a long road of of working in the film business and one former another fantastic and anti yourself. I grew up not far from here actually in northern California over in Scott belly which is west of Rica for Jones at night, and then after high school, I went to college down in Santa, Barbara, that's Gary, and I've always been a big fan of movies and reading in all forms of art. And I also organizing things ever since I was little so that was a good fit for me as a producer. And we started making movies together right away short films. I and then that granted developing our company Joma films and Louis how did you get involved with all this? I'm from southern Oregon born and raised of always love movies. I've always wanted to be a filmmaker and actor I studied a little theatre in college and kind of dabbled in the idea of of creating films and getting into that it actually wasn't until Gary any moved to southern Oregon, and we really set up the Joma films platform there. You know, I started getting really involved once I found out that they were around making feature films. I was like let's do this. Let's go and so just through a series of relief fortunate events ended up connecting with Gary has me in Redwood highway. We started becoming friends I started working with Gary any from from then on some small projects. And so looks at a beer with them. Now that's been a great journey, and and I'm very thankful for them. You know, setting up at this. Awesome company in southern Oregon him. So how did the process go in dabbling in films? I going from your super eight, and and what not into deciding that you're going to launch a production company in southern Oregon. We were in southern California for a while. I like I said I was in film school in Pasadena, and I worked as an assistant editors and Editors Guild and kinda lots of big project big movies working with kademi award winning Adar's with on studio lot. And and just really getting a good education on post production and the politics of studio filmmaking from the executives to director to, you know, test screening movies to reshoot in all the of just seen how how it worked. And meanwhile, we were making small projects on our own, you know, just just bootstrapping small movies. We we had a short fill that that we made that got a lot of festival tension. And that led to getting Calvin Marshall off the ground that was actually in southern California. But we shot it Ashland. One of the reasons we shot it in Ashland was because he was from the area, and it felt like small town America sort of added kind of Americana storyline. Baseball disillusionment ole ole bars, and it just felt like a good place for that that story to take place. And and so, yeah, it was it felt like it was overnight in one sense. But in another sense, it was fifteen years into making before before Calvin Marshall got made Kelvin mersal was your first official film under the Joma films title now about ten years after the fact right still still going strong at this point. So what other projects have you done since Calvin Marshall? While the film Louis mentioned record highway. We'd made film Shirley Knight. And Tom Skerritt. It was a story about a women who kinda goes AWOL from her retirement community and walks to see the ocean because she hasn't seen the shit in forty five years. So that was the story that was a film made in twenty thirteen. And then then we made a little sci-fi thriller is really more of an are film called black road. So yeah, four films ten years not too bad in between. We're doing commercial work and helping other people make their films in one form or another. But those are for features. So for all of the Joma projects are they script to screen entirely in house. They're all very different the first one cal- Marshall, which we put together in LA. We put together with another production company there some friends of ours. We had a a company, and then we finance that with them. And then Redwood highway was with a production company up here that approached us to do that Jimmy twins company. So he was one of the other producers on that along with Gary cout over Ashland. So that was a group of people and black road that was one where gearing I really wanted to to see what we can do with just under the banner and make something very small and Tessa boundaries of what we can do. And we did a lot of local. Executive producers came on board for that. And so and we did some crowdfunding. So it was a real locally based crowd sourced movie thrifty and Louis win did you partner in with these two? You said we're Redwood highway was the first project have you been working on everything ever since with them or pretty much. Yeah. I yeah. I worked on black road. And when the development of of black road was taken place. You know, what I found out? Gary was making the movie I really wanna work on this. So there was some opportunities to jump on with some co-producer credits and whatnot. So I was like I'm all in for that. I met with Gary. I don't know if you remember we beaten. Yeah. And we just talked about like what my intentions were. And so on and so forth, a really beautiful meeting and just says, so what do you think? And I was like I wanna Amal in man. And so we we had a wonderful experience making that film it really. I think a really beautiful foundation for what we were able to do with Phoenix, Oregon, just, you know, the ability to take the budget that we had then and to essentially smooth sell through production that we thought really great about. And have a, you know, a nice product that the end really allowed us to be confident and going into into Phoenix. So. With every independent production. When you're working on a small team. There's a lot of hats being warned once the three of you together. Have you carved out your own little niche for what each of you does or is everyone's job title miscellaneous? Yeah. I think they're they're definitely is. I mean, you know, one of the things when you're making a small film when you don't have a large budget is that there's a lot of you don't have to say this. But there's a lot of corners to cut. I mean, just because we don't have the resources, so, you know, Gerry's very visionary director is I mean, he's an incredible director. And so and I as producers we really have to kind of not necessarily the he needs protecting. But in a way, protect them and make sure that he's able to stay creative into relief Okasan, directing, and he doesn't need to know, you know, about I mean, what locations we're going to be at because you know, it's still right there. And he needs to think there needs to see, you know, the picture, but he doesn't need to know necessarily what it takes actually get in. There aren't the hurdles. And so I feel like there is like a disconnect between. Protecting Gerry's creativity. And then letting you know more of the logistics of fall on on Anaheim. Location location location. Interestingly enough, your newest film was shot in Klamath falls. But before we start talking about Phoenix, Oregon itself. I think we need to tell the story of how exactly it came to be shot in Klamath falls, even though the name of it is Phoenix, Oregon. Yes, we we were wanting to Phoenix originally that seem to make sense. It's always been easy for us to stay at our own house. And then, you know, bring any criminal to and cast to us, but it just didn't work logistically for one the bowling alleys were they really couldn't close down for us and didn't want to. So then we started a search within six counties like all of that to the coast all the way east and even all the way up to Portland at one point. And we were looking for bowling alley. That hadn't really revamped all the real flashy new stuff yet because we wanted to more nostalgic. Feel that reminded us of bullying when we were growing up, and we looked a lot of them and a lot of them are closing down and just weren't right or weren't willing to help us in. We found hands games here in Klamath falls. And it's it's just a perfect place. It's exactly what we were looking for in terms of just the artistic perspective. And then very you can't beat a better partner in very. He was amazing to work with and just really out of his way to make it a great experience for us. And we shot inside the me for eight days in and we had a few days outside too. So we were there for a good two weeks. There were several locations used in the film all around climate falls IRS a restaurant the daily bagel down downtown. How did the various location sites come up and why were the certain spots around climate falls chosen? Once once we kind of had our of Hinson bowling alley. Boeing center. There's this kind of challenge to make sure we're not traveling too far from it 'cause we shot the movie in twenty days, so he can't waste time. And so if he came more of let's exhaust all the good locations. We can find in clown falls that can. That can work for the story. And it was just a team effort like I we down here, and we went literally to probably every single restaurant and bar in Klamath falls to find. And we ended up at Italian as Gail Nicholson over there. She just was incredible again in helping us in open her doors and came in and crashed her business for a couple of days. So we found that experiencing true all across the board. And speaking about roles that we split loon. I made a bit listed the beginning. And we just basically assigned things like you take that you take this. And he really was the lead on the locations. So Gary had a vision and Louis hope this really find them and do all the permitting and Allah gist around it drift. Well, not a lot of films have been shot in this part of southern Oregon Ashland gets a ton of production done the these days. So what was the experience like in terms of community interaction getting locals involved in the production working? Klamath falls as opposed to Ashland Medford area. You know, I we had a wonderful experience the production went great from the from from the pre production when we had a weeks earlier to the actual shooting. Was that an all around wonderful experience. I feel that going back to talking about locations really quick. It wasn't like we were just like, okay. Let's see what we have to work with these were great locations with amazing business owners. So from that perspective alone. We got off on a great star. And then, you know, one of the important things with the with the film is obviously background extra. So you have to have people to make the scene come to life. That aspect was was pretty incredible as well. We had a lot of people that were excited about participating, and and they would show up, and, you know, be into the asterik and really help us. You know, bring those seems to live that we need to do. And then the, you know, the city permitting, and and so on and so forth. It was. Was. Yeah. It was wonderful, man. We had an excellent 'em there. I know a lot of businesses helped out not just in shoot locations, but also in providing hotels and food every day and kinda rolled out the proverbial red carpet for the entire production and the entire cast, right? Yeah. We stayed at this really tell which is operated by running. Why resort and? Yeah, they were they were amazing to us state helped us out, and we ate waffle. They had a sprint for as every single morning. We had breakfast. And we've is it a lot of the local restaurants. Those really nice. We were literally getting up in the morning, and then just walking across the parking lot. And they had a huge represent every morning man, the entire town here, and that you know, may not seem like a big deal. But it is a big deal man, especially when you're in a time crunch, and when everybody's just kind of during the scatter in the morning. So it was really great on the bigger movies. You see all the big trailers. We don't have that. And they follow you around. Food. And so they always seen whenever you need it. So we have to always having to come up with it. So having businesses really partner with us on that was huge. So let's talk about Phoenix Oregon itself. What was the inspiration behind this film? Well, I love this story. The make sure that it all gets incline is that in talking about how you got involved with us as we started thinking about making our next movie, the story really came about because of these guys friendship. So you can take it from there. Yeah. You know, I always wanted to make a movie about midlife crisis. We like to say that when your thirties, you feel like your whole life is in front of you and quickly that changes were suddenly it's not in front of you any more and just a few years can pass really where your your perspective shifts. And now it's like, oh my God. I'm staring at the abyss now. And and so from that standpoint, I pictured sort of a lonely protagonist who's working through stuff at the time. I was riding his spending time with Louis his family, and he's got this great family and extended family and all I care about each other. And you know on the weekends Earl together hanging out. And and so I got to experience Latino culture close about just the love, and and and the sort of relationships that they had together. And I think it just seemed so. Oh, cool. You know, I think, you know, a lot of our families at least from my experience or spread out, you know, and you see him that much. So it just became this catalyst for the story where maybe this lonely character had had a good Latino friend who who sort of was a breath of fresh air, and these guys life, and and that's that was sort of the foundation of the story could talk a lot more about the story, and how it evolved from there. But but those two characters are kinda heartbeat or the the movie. Sure, sure. So it's a comedy that sort of based around the concept of a midlife crisis and feeling like you're in a dead end job and just saying screw it. I'm just going to pursue passions. So the story without giving away. The entire thing is some friends by bowling alley. And they feel like they have the world's greatest pizza, and so they're going to combine pizza. With bowling and create this whole nostalgic atmosphere for people and chaos ensues. Right. Yeah. Too. Good sort of teen the story for sure I think. I think it's a drama d you know, I I where it doesn't scare people off. I think it's a human story of real people who hopefully audiences all relate to and I think there's some nice bits of comedy in it. I mean, Kevin Corrigan gives it wonderfully strange Polaris performance in the movie Dietrich baiter, also playing the the the sort of insecure boss Italian restaurant. He he's funny in it. And I and I think the basically walking that line between comedy and drama. I find very fun to do. And hopefully when people see the movie built Bill experience, the casting seems to follow a theme with your productions with a lot of independent films. You know, you can't necessarily afford the A-List superstar that's going to come in. But everyone of your film seems to have a really quality at least one of those. Oh, you're that guy from that one thing personas thrown into the cast great character actors Steve Zahn was in Calvin Marshall. Of course, you've got some returning people have worked with you in previous projects in this one. Of course, Dietrich baiter, everyone will know him as that guy with the deep voice who was on that TV show. For those who don't know. He was on the drew Carey show, and he's been in a whole bunch of movies. And all that. So how do you manage to get these fantastic character actors to join on board with with independent projects? I think we are team. I think we all have pretty taste like, we know. The Dow many great actors are out there in the kinds of roles are getting and and there's criminally underused actors out there that could really carry films carry you all to easier. They're that good that haunted and. And our partner with cast inches co producer on this movie, but Christine sheikhs in LA, she's cussed all our movies. She has just great taste great instincts. Like, Steve's all miss her idea on Calvin Marshall. She casts boogie nights. Burt Reynolds was her idea and boogie nights. So it's it's like you need you need a casting director who thinks outside the box and knows those sort of brilliant underused actors who love to sink their teeth into roles. And so it's a process. You know, we we talk through we make lists. We think that who's gamble will work for little to no money. You know? And then you you hope when you send the script they like it, you know, but to get James Lee grow and Jesse breglio out here in Klamath falls in the spring for a month. It's nice. It's not easy to do. And so we very very grateful. Those are names that you may not necessarily recognize on the late show talk circuit. But when you look at their IMDB DP DP page it reads like an encyclopedia. It is incredible. The amount of work that these actors have been involved in. So what made the final decision to go with these particular individuals, and how did they work out overall in the film? I think we can all speak to that. I'll say that we we love our cast in this movie. I think when you watch the film you'll see how good this cast is. And I think it's it's a matter of being you know, there's a certain amount of luck involved. I think you write these parts, and you need talented actors to step up. I think James grow is always of on my mind is playing the lead. And we were with them briefly on Reverend highway, and you know, I to be honest. I was thinking there's no as going to be able to come out here for a month for, you know, aside low budget movie, but luckily, you know, he he enjoyed working with us. He remembered us well, and he he really wanted to do any idea move schedule around. He actually had. Say no to something something back to make it happen from there in a Jesse Brig was actually introduced to us by another friend when Lewis friends, and he if you watch the movie his part of Carlos, it's it's a character. That has a lot of hope and always dreaming always really pushing the story forward and encouraging other people to take risks and go for their dreams and the great thing about Jesse is. He really is Carlos. He's I like to say he's more Carlos than Carlos. He's amazing. He's actually either on an airplane right now or on his way to Liverpool in the UK to do a fame reunion. So he was on the same television series. So in terms of the encyclopedia on I am DV. That's Jesse gray goes and he's in a ton of other. So. He's a credible. I think it's important to note that even though the actors are not a list that we had talked from the beginning of just getting the best actress possible, and again with that sense that they're not, you know, on the list, they're actors that are consistently working, and they don't need to do the movie getting a great script. He had a great vision for the film, and they wanted to help them tell the story. So they came in giving ten percent. And we felt that I think every day on you could see the movie and then Kevin Corrigan. Lisa edelstein. They happen to be good friends of James and. So they came on board a lot having to do with him. And I think most people are gonna wreck they will know who Lisa Attleson is and debate baiter for sure they're both on television shows right now also to Righa. Hey goes, he is a terrific actor, and he works nothing, but just huge movies, which is funny like play small parts like he was on triple frontier just on that flicks with a credible cast and he actually flew out from Hawaii to play too. To southern Oregon to play for a couple of days and then go back to Hawaii. So he went back to hang out with Ben Affleck on on the set of. The film does have a bowling theme. While there's been some great bowling movies. There's one that always kinda stands above the rest, and I think from day one that you entered into this. You probably thought how do we avoid being compared to the big lebowski or do you just openly embrace it and say, hey, we're we're a bully movie too. And worse for funny to in. There can be more than just one. He definitely, you know, there's definitely some insecurity there. They'll abou- ski is such an incredible funny movie with some icon balling scenes in it. I always felt that that this was just a different movie. So I felt like, you know, there wouldn't be any comparisons. Probably. And I think there will be I think our our humor. It's much more rooted in bobby's story of trying to get his life together. It's not a straight comedy by any stretch. Even though there's comedy in it. I think there's more bullying in our movie to I would say perhaps out of all the Boeing movies. There might be more bowling in this movie, which is credit crazy to think about bowling's really hard to film. That's what we we have a lot of strikes screen and era. Great turnament. The end of the day. You know, I think with our marketing, it's is not just a bully movie. It's really a movie about these characters in their growth in it. It is funny, but bowling is the backdrop for that story in for their character arcs. So there were local people heavily involved in producing this film as well. No Ryan, the me was involved in it and Kim piper. How did those connections come about? Well, I knew Ryan for a while Ryan's just this this amazing person, credibly smart, incredibly generous. I mean, he helped on black road with or DC Ps at the time to scream movie and theater you needed a digital cinema package. It was this new thing that what, you know, forget the film printed gone away, Calvin Marshall, you screen film print as a. He helped me make those for free. You know, you just guy donate his time said, hey, I know how to do this. I'd love to help you and so became friends and. And he's always kind of stayed in the loop. And you know, when we were filming in Klamath falls. He he sort of stepped up and filled many needs including donate his warehouse where we shuts scenes, and we start a quit -ment. Yeah. We built the sip. Bobby set there? You know, he's a producer on the movie. I can't say enough about ROY dad brought down there. Bucket truck to us when we filmed downtown's working, really hard. Yeah. They do. Great. And then can piper actually met them after Clements film festival. I guess it was in two thousand sixteen so two and a half years ago. Only. That's when we met them. We should lock road. We had a really great human afterwards. Which now, I know it was Ben asking all the questions. They came up to us afterwards introduce themselves, and we started working with them from there. We didn't have project really yet at that point. But. Kept in touch and after a couple years after year, they got involved on this. Also will shout out to Klamath film group Klamath film festival Jesse and Robin who. Who, you know, great allies here in Klamath for so many different reasons. And I think there are a lot of MVP's on this project. But robbing actually deserves one of the MVP's she came in without very very little experience and worked as a coordinator on the movie. And and I know any Louis can speak out. A lot a lot of the tasks off of our plate that we just couldn't do. So she was the office person for the whole shoot. Well, we used to be an LA and being in Los Angeles. There's something being shot every single day. It's not a big deal. But when you get into smaller communities like Klamath falls where filming is really unusual things can become iconic. I grew up in Eugene. And in Eugene that community is synonymous with national ones animal house Asturia has goonies and kindergarten cop certain communities have become permanently connected with certain films that just happened to be shot there because so few things have been shot in Klamath falls. This is for lack of any other options, perhaps the claim with falls film. Now that everyone will remember an associate the committee, which is kind of ironic that you didn't name it Klamath falls, Oregon, you named it Phoenix or Oregon is when you go home to Phoenix is there a lot of perturbed that are angry at you for not filming going both ways. A little bit. He is it's turning more into jokes than perturbed. I would say. Phoenix, Oregon is a better title than Klamath falls, Oregon, the first that's the first thing. I think you gotta think of the title of the movie, you know, like, what's Phoenix? I think Paris, Texas. You know, there's there's a number of movies that do that play on words when I first moved to southern Oregon. I thought Phoenix Oregon really was shocked. There was even Phoenix organic felt ridiculous to me. Now, I'm used to it. But I think outside of the area, it'll it'll take on any lifelike. We're not in zone award Phoenix. And these guys aren't in the quite where they want to be in their life yet. And and I think the town comes off quaint and nice and a perfectly beautiful place to be. There's those that aspect too. I think I think Klamath falls end Phoenix should should be proud. It's definitely it. It definitely still feels like Phoenix that conversation before and we had Phoenix. Residents at the world premiere and they were they were super happy. They still felt like a represented kind of you know, the feel of and the vibe of of where they're from. Yeah. Wait, what he you know, he's not that? You don't want to be in the town. It's just it. We all get to that point in her life. Or maybe we feel like we're not where we want to be yet. And they have to struggle with that in film. And then, you know, by the end, they're going to have some kind of resolution to that. It's not you know, you you'll see you can see when you watch it is not like awesome now or anything is real life and been through journey. It is fun when you can visit spots the you recognize from film when I first moved to LA every street corner. I went oh, wow. That's in that movie. That's not TV show after all the realized everything has been shot in Los Angeles. Who cares? But in Eugene decades later, they still talk about the locations where national Lampoon's animal house was shot. They still give many tours. Sometimes there's a little plaque out there. Maybe in a few. Ears though, they'll be show as seen in Phoenix Oregon hanging in some of the various businesses where we're shot. I berry hand scams is really proud of this movie. He saw it and loved it. And I could totally see poster hanging his and his Boeing center, and I think many locations will be proud to see it. I hope that the movie gets enough notoriety. Where that is the case. Well plans for the film it made its world premiere at the Ashland independent film festival tonight at pelican cinemas. There are two screenings one at seven and another at seven thirty followed by a Q and A session. So I do need to ask how the reception to the film been so far. It's been really fabulous. We've been very warmly welcomed by Oliver audiences, and they've been I think people are really moved by the film. They laughed during the film. It's a light hearted good natured film, and they're finding a lot of meaning in it and inspiration. And how the Kyun as gone with with audiences. What is the feedback? Ben. You know, really positive every movies a little different, and you go through the process of sort of passing the movie to the world, you know, and it's kind of happening right now. But our initial reactions are we feel very? Grateful that people are, you know, tracking with the story carrying about Bobby loving Carlos is performance, and and laughing at the comedy bits in it. And I think yeah. Like Anne said people are finding meaning in it, which is probably the the the the most satisfying thing. So what are the plans for the film going forward? Is it going to have online distribution or you gonna take it on the festival circuit? Or is that still to be determined at this point? Well, what we're actually with the world premiere we launched seventy city tour, basically. So we're we're doing pre tour work right now, we're doing a lot of screenings in Oregon in June thirteenth. We started seventy city a fifty city about seventy city to all the way through the United States. And then we'll have our last screen in Portland on August twenty fifth. But so, you know, tomorrow it opens at the pelican. So it's going to be playing there for the full week multiple times a day and the important thing for people in clams to know about an indie film is that if you see the film this week it will continue playing if people don't go to see it any they stop playing. So we have a good chance to play for a couple of weeks year. Just because I think a lot of people are interested in it right now. But if you liked the film for your audience, please tell people about it and encourage them to go see a locally made film and support independent cinema. Support really meaningful. Arthouse cinema. Because then the film can't stay alone around a little bit longer. It helps us in people get to see it. And then beyond theater now, there's so many avenues for film to to live on Netflix or Hulu or Amazon prime and all that. If there aren't any deals in place yet, maybe there's some conversations going on. But opportunities down the line may be for the the film to have a longer life site where we're going to build momentum to this summer in our plan is to release in the fall digitally. So we do have distribution partners. We work business passed. So we'll partner with one of them or new partner Terrific, Well, any hints at potential future projects because by the time you release something you're already two down two projects down the line in terms of concept, and scripting and all that. Definitely I think it's you have lots of lines in the water. I think. Making films as a teams for so you you need a lot of allies. And so you don't wanna put all your ex in one basket rehab a few different feature projects that. Can't talk too much about there's a horror film that that again, a meaningful horror film. And a series developing and another comedy, it'll kind of just see organically. What what comes along? You know what? What hit you know, so fingers crossed. But it'll be something. There's always projects in the works is just there's so many variables when it comes to lake, you know, what falls into place, so hopefully, we're shooting something next year. But we'll you know, we'll see sometimes scripts can float for a decade around Hollywood before there. There's a bite and it turns into a blockbuster who news. So it's fascinating. What happens behind the scenes almost more? So than what happens on the big screen. That's why you gotta love films that kinda show. The by seems like Get Shorty and whatnot that kind of showcase the some of the things you wouldn't expect to go into the process of filmmaking that actually do take place up. Sometimes it's a little true to true to life. I used to work in the music industry. And I remember I talked to a lot of musician friends who said they couldn't watch this is spinal tap because that happened to them on tour once or that's a little true. Or, you know, sometimes the parody is a little too close to reality. Sometimes. But Phoenix Oregon produced by Joma films based out of Ashland, Oregon. It is showing tonight. Thursday may second at pelican cinemas at seven which is sold out seven thirty. I think there may still be some tickets left both Gary and any Lewis or doing a QNA after the films, and it's going to run at pelican cinemas for a week thereafter, the film was shot climate falls. So please go check it out. I'm sure you'll recognize a lot of locales that these fantastic actors were located in. So any final thoughts. Gary any Lewis, just thank you so much for having work cited for everybody to watch that dome tonight and later in the week or in the next couple of weeks. Terrific. Well, thank you so much for taking some time out of your busy schedules. And we all look forward to seeing the finished product of Phoenix, Oregon. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.