Trek Untold-Episode 2 | Ursaline Bryant
Hi I'm Brian. I was kept in trailer. Got On star Trek the next generation the episode conspiracy and you are listening to trek until welcome back to TREK UNTOLD STAR. Trek inspired podcast. That goes beyond the stars. I'm your host Matthew Kaplowitz looking back on the first season of Star Trek the next generation you can see a show that was trying to find its voice figure itself out after all this was star Trek Star Trek almost twenty years since the original series aired. The actors from the original series are still making movies but next-gen took place in an entirely different era and so to do the show have to become more modern for the eighties. Some episodes of the first season having age too l. from all sorts of different perspectives. And some are just outright oddities. Case in point the episode our guest on today's show appeared in earth and Bryant played the role of Captain Trial Scott in the episode conspiracy which was a totally dark episode in just about every trick show ever that point but I mean it was really a dream. Come true on star trek a show. She watched growing up and had quite a connection with her career goes lightyears beyond trek though as we discuss her roles before and after her time serving starfleet as what she's doing nowadays she's got some very fun stories. Talk about working on shows like the Golden Girls Seinfeld the Redd Foxx show and a lot of wisdom to share as well before we begin this episode. I'd like to remind you to follow us on facebook twitter and Instagram at trek cold. One word no spaces you can also support our show by visiting Patriot dot com slash trek untold. If you're already following US or offering your support anyway thank you for your help. 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So let's start at the beginning with the question. I like to start all these interviews with and that is what was your earliest memory of Star Trek captain. Kirk and spock talk. I love it stock and I would watch that original series Whenever it was on and then it got cancelled and came back in reruns. I watched it opening up a game and I wanted to connect to the stars and style so that was my first. It was the original star Trek series. That can if you tell us about your childhood like where were you born? Who Your parents? What did they do well? I was born in Washington. Dc My parents are no longer with me. With the US they've transcend their and transitioned on hopefully much much better place. But my mom worked in the school system and Washington DC. And my father I did not know a lot about so I so I'm onto twice and then not with that. So what got you interested in becoming an actress well actually want to learn to fly planes and that was because I was a stargazer outlook. Look up at the sky. At night I would lie on the grass in the summer and watch the Star and the heaven and I just wanted to be a part of that but I I try and send it to what I physically was about. Five or ten very then very agile so I started modeling in Washington. Dc which turned me into on TV. I've string TV commercials. I was doing runway shows on TV in Washington DC and That got me after car and I did not know how valuable that was until I got to New York so shortly to New York started. Marlene and then one day. I was sitting in terms of the camera. Okay I think I WANNA do a little more and then I started taking acting classes and found out that the drama was already there and I just exploit it. You tell us where you studied acting with the Negro on some company in New York When I transitioned to Los Angeles I studied with the renowned. And she's no longer with us either. Melton cats fellas workshops with Lynn. Redgrave's doesn't I've Shakespeare with her Be Richard so shops and things of that nature so they always Life student so I'm continuing to study and my study takes many different paths but at that time Inner City Cultural Center was up and running so I studied so much their dance and movement and acting techniques stance. Shakespeare workshops so that was some of the things back then had him visited that resume in so long. I forget something we always like to chat with. People have Shakespearean backgrounds. That's a very strong pedigree to have to be learning acting from He. Just tell us if there was one lesson he learned during that time. That stuck with you to this day catch when I first began to study best scam. They suggested reading and it has nothing to do this. What I felt acting was at that time. They suggested that. I read autobiography Yogi. Now listen just meet. It was the entire class but I found out that that was a connection for me. Because there's nothing outside of me and it's all inside so I began at. I think that was my introduction into real self reflection suck the development and self involvement and that book. I continue to read It led me onto things like chopard carry water. Which is such a great disciplines. I simplistic wonderful discipline Other than that and then he kicked me out of class instead. Go five which you need to do but you know I'm still searching due to search in Now for the perfect path but for the one that I can win the gift that I have to and create a better hold all right very good now. According to IMDB your first show was. Bronco in nineteen seventy five. But I'm sure you did some things before that kind of give us look view of what led you to your parents mine first TV appearance. Oh my goodness oh no. I guess I should have my resume in front of me but I don't answer I'll walk through it. I got it off. Yes please walk me through it but was not the first one getting. Franck which will mention right now is That appearance appearances. Nineteen seventy five. It was a detective show with Jack. Plants for Jack. Talents was one of my idols. I I really loved his work. He was so in depth and everything he came out of his mouth was so believable and so it was a real pleasure. Even though I didn't get a one on one with him in a scene there was a great pleasure to be Be a part of something that he was involved breast. Oh you know what I'm going to let this ripe for a minute. My memory has a way of coming back at unreach- import but it's just not there right now. I can't remember. Let me help jog your memory here. I can tell you a little bit more about that episode you. Did you play the character of Michelle? You're the wife Austin Stoker's character yes and unfortunately basically the first five minutes episode you die in a car trail visit your car explodes. I know remember that so I just wanted to know. I mean basically most of your screen time was with Austin Stoker. Who Very strong actor. Very underrated still works today. He's done so many things. Do you remember any time you spent with him and work on that episode called Austin. I became very good things on that show A little bit about the phone before him because I see him out on dishes and things of that nature and I think we might have done a TV commercial together. I'm not sure but he did become friends and that kind of locked it and I just always admired his folks so support. Yeah you know going out to see. The theater The place that he was doing and by starts did he ever give you any. You've really great life advice or acting advice that you've held onto no. I'm sure he did. You know anyone that I'd with I have Been Fortunate enough to take something valuable away. I think the thing of it is is to And I don't know he bought this to me. It's just to be who you are and find that character within the Rome approve. You are without searching all the place outside of this job but to dig deeper and pull out the layers and then just let it flow so it seems at this point. A lot of your acting theory is based on getting those intrinsic elements within you and give them externally so the audience kind of standard. Is that correct correct? I think we come equipped I mean we as a whole people. Everybody comes here for a very different purpose and nobody can do what we do or how we do it. But you don't know that you know as a child as a teenager as a young adult as an older though still looking and searching I am at a place where I'm very pleased with myself. I have looked back on some of the things that done. I'm GonNa Oh my goodness you have been my company of some phenomenal and I've learned a lot of lessons but intrinsically I still search within my motivation are very good. Now we're not gonNA go through every single the don on your resume so much but I wanted to pick up a few other highlights on that includes your time working on. The hardy boys and Nancy drew mysteries. And then eventually we come to nineteen eighty-six which is one of the things. I guess I've seen with you one hundred times and didn't know you were in until today but you're in one of the best episodes ever of the golden girls I had. I am so glad you've been that up now. That was a masterclass so just sorta listeners that episode of ladies of the evening and that's an episode word the Golden Girls. They all get arrested for being mistaken as prostitutes. And you are literally locked in a cell with the Arthur Betty White mcclanahan. What is that like what what was a master class in human nature and the art of? Acting the craft. These women were so phenomenal. Never miss a beat. Did Not Miss this joke? Whether a subtle or birth or over the talk even they were masters at put. They did it. I mean it was so I was so grateful to be on that set. I would leave. I mean I've watched everything that I could watch. I'd listened but being there was like I'll Jim comes to I would say so. What are those ladies like offset? Oh they were great. You know a very very into them. Selves They would go their separate ways especially be office. She was very I would say very reserved. I'M GONNA use that word because that's what people think of me that I'm shy and I am but I'm just not I call myself What is that an introverted extrovert? And that's what the author appeared to be to me. She was very very quiet and With easily removed herself but she show up on time to be there but she does not always around. She was not needed. And I and I completely understood that but it was just you know they were joyful absolutely joyful had a great time out Betty White was miraculously and I I learned from her. That and this may be common knowledge. You might have set it on a talk. Show or something that every birthday. When she was married to Allen Ludden he would give her a Cadillac and so every day is she would arrive at the studio in a different Cadillac. Well not just one cat. I know this wonderful absolutely wonderful. Now that episodes also known for being the one where looked at the end. Burt Reynolds makes us surprise. Cameo were you there on the day he shut up you not working. That day wasn't working that day but I knew he'd be there. I had met. Kirk riddles somewhere sometime. I was interested in this theater theater at one point in Florida and I was interested in studying Or or Boeing there so I I don't know if I met him in person. I just reached out to him my resume and email. I think that might have been it. But no I was not there on that day in terms of acting. Were there any other actors or actresses that inspired you especially early on your career to pursue this craft Knew in particular Run is why one of the unsung heroes of the the stage. Not only what you know. I mean superfly flung him to superstardom but here was a man that was so inspired in his craft I love to Dedication He was also very into the classics. Which is something that he did not or most of us do not get an opportunity to show and that inspired me to always look outside of what I appears to be. Ron O'Neal was a real working man's actor. Did you ever chance to work with him? No I didn't. I met him years ago when I was in New York. It's still moderate at the time And that's where I'm at a lot of people are who became household names New York extraordinary growing experience for me and I knew him but I never got the opportunity to work with him. That's unfortunate but I'm going to move ahead to nineteen eighty six for a quickie here where you did get to meet a lot of real few big names and a few up commerce at the time and that was when you were part of the Redd Foxx show. You had the pleasure of working with Red Fox with Sindbad Beverly Todd. Very Young. Pamela Adlon even with Vanessa Williams right. Your character was therese. I believe you're on four episodes of that one season that they did And it's a great show. People can track down. It's actually on Youtube. Do a little digging. You can find it but I just WanNa ask what your experience like being on that show and working with all these great. Comedians especially Red Fox master was a master comedian. No he was master life. Let me put it that way. He was utter stand a craftsperson and I was just glued to I mean once a day this timing once a day his writing once a day because that just came out naturally That were usually incorporated into what we were doing and It was it was I was in awe because of this this rock cutting edge talent that has always been there always been aware again and the different John that working and we love the His show his original show The Red box show but this was Amazing to be there and send. Dad is just getting started was wonderful. I see him often on now and We're still locked in because of that. experienced. Now Beverly Todd. I've known for very long time Her husband at one point an ex husband I should say was one of my teachers that the Inner City Cultural Center. So that's how we met there. But I always been aware of Bruce Work and always admired her and we became good sense Not that we hung out together anything but we were. We were in the same spaces all the time. She was a part of a group that had a I believe I can't remember the name of it but around the holidays. The Christmas holiday in particular she and the weather a lot of other well-known women of the screen would debit together and put soup. Get so I knew I was once a year and I haven't seen her lately though but That was a wonderful opportunity and it seemed like everybody had a lot of fun on that show with you. I'm curious learn a little bit more about Red Fox and what it was like being just that coast him be able to work with him. What was that experience like File how do I I? I don't know that I have a word for it. It wasn't amazing experience. Because he would come over and he would just stood things in my ear as to where this character was really coming from He shared some things About timing out sharing them without making it a teaching or anything like that but he was he was amazing. He was a very opening and honest and giving individual so I just took it out and carry the with me and was all the bedrooms court up until that point. I'm kind of curious about your career. Did you find it difficult to find work as a woman of color to this day? Even did you find yourself like typecast or put into roles? That really weren't that great for what you could do. Well I was typecast because of being a woman of color and because of being a woman of color and not fitting in roles of that time I mean they're very specific goals that were very specific images that were being shown at that time. They still are but not as old as they were. So yeah which is why it took to the stage. I've always been a part of the stage That's always been my go-to when I wanted to express something outside of who? I looked like what I was. Thought of I went to the stage and got the opportunity and made the opportunity of performing all sorts of characters but fulfill them and TV. Yes absolutely. It's very difficult now. We're going definitely chat a little bit more about some of Your Theater. Experience closer to the end of this interview here. But there's one last thing discuss before we move into star Trek and that's a movie you did in one thousand one called all the marbles. This is a really neat Ville. You remember that 'cause I forget I remember our so just for our listeners. Who Don't know what this movie is. This was a comedy starring. Peter Falk. He's the manager of a women's pro wrestling tag team. They're played by Vicki. Frederick and Laureen Landon dossier got burt young in it. Who I love seeing everything he does and you played One of the wrestlers from the main event of the film. You're one half the Tigers. Your other tag team partner was played by Tracy Reed and you guys are managed by the late John. Hancock also an actor who appeared in next Gen You get to wrestle in basically the centerpiece of the film. That the big finale of the film. Twenty Minute Long Match. You guys are working. You guys are taking bumps. You're doing flying moves you guys are. Actually wrestling are really fast paced match. So I think the first question about that is who trained. You guys to compete. Because that's what they're doing stunts correct. That's correct way trained by the teachers of the first woman wrestling champion. Her name was mildred. Burke and maybe had a studio out Thinking about the Valley. And that's where we would train every day for what seems like mom but they trained as and it was. Oh my gosh. It was inexperienced that I will never forget. I never thought that I would wear high heels again bodies with boosting battered and we really hit that that so yeah back for teachers trained us. That's impressive. Yeah and again you guys. Who are listening to track down that seen it is out there available to look if you can dig for it It's just tremendous to watch because you guys are really working though. It's an intense fast long match and one thing I'd like to stay is out director. He's passed on now and tell me his name Director producer said that he wanted Actors to learn to wrestle as opposed to a wrestler coming in and trying to at and so what he did was gathered like twelve us that will train and Tracy and I came out to be the Toledo Tigers by the way was Robert Aldrich. He also directed yard our happened to pay a lot of really great pieces absolutely and he was a huge fan. I did not so. That's how that came about. Yeah that's exactly how it came about. He was a huge fan and were you wrestling fan at all. I used to watch it when I was a kid growing up. My mom loves it and then all of a sudden I stopped watching it I went. Oh man this is not real. I beg to differ. You must be an athlete. You must be. You must have stamina that you must know how to take those falls and take those makes them. Safety was great at the Punch and I was great at the kick for back how they trained us. They said you know they worked with our weaknesses were without strength. But you're absolutely right. That was a grueling that was grooming match And I look back now and I am really proud of the work because it is authentic. Absolutely I mean if you weren't acting I could've seen you easily had career in pro wrestling because you were that good. It was very impressive. Well I was asked to go on the road but I couldn't walk. It took it actually took years to heal and There is a photograph that was taken. And then you may be able to see the still to win that last match and we're coming in the wall made up and dressed up and we're miss mean. Joe Greene and I have a pong is hanging down in front of my knee. My meeting When when you're when you're talk to fall you take the bait on the bottom of your feet and your shoulders. Well wait was so intense that it began to affect my me and my knee was like three times size but this amazing I so no I could not go out on the road and said I need to you to heal and But it was started students and thank you by the way. Thank you thank you from my heart as a giant pro wrestling fan And the fact that you got to work with mildred burqas. Well I mean that's that's not living anymore about the time living legend. I mean that's amazing. Right as I said when I look back I went. Oh my goodness if I never do another thing in this industry I'm satisfied. I've done some wonderful things not a household name but that's okay the experience. 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You on episode twenty five which was titled Conspiracy From Nineteen Eighty Eight. So tell us how did you get cast for this star Trek Next Generation? Well I auditioned and N. G. M. at the time that we've just They were working on the engine lot and it was the regular or just this and I went in there with the the silent prayer. The silent wish okay. I am a lifelong trekker. Would be so great to be able for a separate to do a part on I check and that's all I remember it but it was through the regular addition process. I don't remember I don't recall my agent at the time but she said and I was at the that day that my name was called. And that led you down the past to become captain. Trials Scott who according to the episode was the fastest made captain in starfleet history. Now did they give you much information about her to work from now that all I know and I had questions that at the at that time but it was up to me. It was my interpretation of from. She was and so. That's that's my claim to sing that. She does and the youngest came up. No not the youngest so much but she came out of stock to command ahead of John Picard event. Something I've heard from other actors who've done star Trek is they were told a little bit flatter that the aliens could be more expressive any. And if he's a direction that you received. I'm not sure I don't remember you. Given any instructions on ways at starfleet officer should act or anything like that yes and and I don't remember the exact direction backlift but I took it as though I was in some form of the service the armed forces you know that would be my equivalent of being a captain on stock in command and that was the closest thing. Come to all my uncles were in. The branches of the service is moving. Maybe and I would you know have been in their company all my life. So that's where my lead from and just try to translate it to being in space and again that kind of calls back to you talking earlier about taking things from within you and then put them out onto the screen. Jeff Yes yes. It's called that you know it. It's that experience that we have and go back as you recall it and it's there for you. It serves you well to pay attention to all of your experiences and not negate anything. Because you never know where you're going to have to pull you mentioned cliff. Bole who was the director of this episode and Trek Fans? Remember him Since he directed over forty episodes of Star Trek shows He also is the man that they named the bullion race. After who was actually a character that appeared in this episode of the First Time? Well so this was his episode to direct. And I've I've heard some interesting things about bowl before I've heard. That bowl is actually one of the directors who talked down to will wheaton onset I want to get a little more about your experience with cliffs direct experience. I can't remember anything outside of him telling me Giving him giving his insight on the back ground she bars and it was no more than what I stayed. And so we're just up to me to interpret it. He was a very generous Director what he wanted you know and of course on the TV set time is always the acid so there was no playing around. There was no like in theater. It's a give and take sometimes you can walk away and come back and do the things differently the way you you see them but It's just take for it. Takes shoot but he was he was doing obviously because he'd been there for As you said before forty code and We had a great working relationship is all I can boil it down to now. He tell us a little bit about what it was like being on set. Because you're did our very interesting set pieces. The first part was a mine shaft with very heavy red lighting on it. And then the other seen you're at starfleet command which is again very very different totally and just the appearance of it so you tell us a little bit about what it was like this being on those sets the shoot schedule and what those days onset working we're like. I know that that was just happy to be in the play and To be working with those of the actors that I was surrounded with an absolutely to meet John the car or my goodness that was I. I don't know about like surreal because I see him in so many I mean. He's just a master at his crap and went on to become an even greater master actress craft so to be in. That room was very fortunate. it's very it's not. How can I say this was he? Was He was proud. I mean he just what you see is a proud and it was just magnificent to be in the room You know. Tv is what it is you. We could change Backgrounds at the drop of a hat and I been there you know. Been on other teams and bad amazement. Never that Part of the industry never ceases to me but people behind the scenes. The people that are doing those set him up and take them down and turn them around and making them in something different In in the blink of an eye so but that's always fascinating to me. You know the craft is sometimes overlooked but is so necessary but the game. I had a great time. And as you said Patrick Stewart. He is the consummate pro and being someone. That's involved in Shakespearean theater as well. I mean you guys must have hit it off and same with Jonathan Frakes. A tremendous actor. Do you remember any interactions. You had with either Patrick or Jonathan frakes. So my memory. My memory fails me at the moment. I know that between takes we had you know Chitchat. you know me introducing myself to him but that is all I remember. I don't remember in detail Chitchat that we had. I'm pretty sure you're going to remember this park. This is probably the most notable section of the episode of just towards the end when the bad guys basically revealing themselves as being taken over by an alien inside them and all the characters are now eating worms. Do you remember. Eat Worms that episode. Because that was the thing you had to do. Oh I remember vividly the show and the reason I say that is because they appear to be worms grubs but it was actually delicious pasta and it was. It was set in that little dish that I'm out of once again. The crafts people behind the scenes. They They made this little dish with a motor underneath. And it moved so it made it look like the Pasta in it or the grubs or the worms and moving around and so very very easy to To to enjoy eating the words because it was pasta Very good to hear you weren't eating actual meal worms that's a relief Oh no no no no. There's another part of this two. Were once you get phased you fall down the floor and you got the parasite. Come out of your mouth. I'm not too interested in the parasite part but what I am interested in was when you take that fall after you've been blasted by Picard and Reicher. Was that you and the fall since you've got this now experience from being all the marbles or was that a stunt person yes yes I did. And it wasn't a tall either active over. Marbles hat was easy as pie. Yeah they call me exactly what they wanted they gave me. The outline is just long and of course took every precaution that I did. Not you know cab an injury or or hurt myself but that was an easy fall for me after all the marbles prepared me well see I talked with a lot of stunt performers and they tell me you know a lot of times utility wwl even step in for an Acura being splashed with a glass of water. Not even taking anything real physical. So it's great to hear you actually take your bumps. Yes yes I have so. I want to ask if you actually watch the episode when it first aired and the reason I'm asking is because this episode is really known for its ending. Because it's a very gory very non star. Trek ending basically phaser an alien to the point that it explodes violent. Bloody Mess so did you actually watch that. When it first aired you know have a habit. It's very interesting I. I don't know I haven't come to terms with this is about a better at it and what that is is that I don't particularly like watching myself on the small screen or the big screen so I did not watch it right away. I do call watching it later on Months had gone by and and I took a look at it and I went. Yeah I didn't. It was very. I mean I read it reading in the script as one thing but seeing it happen and and and I have to agree. I've never heard it put into terms that way but it was unlikely star check in but I guess they weren't make sure those little aliens Medicaid that I don't know but I did see it and I continue to watch it now because I see different things Every time I watched something I see something different into something differently that might have done. But that's in the past. I can't change but yes I have watched it and I've seen it many times now. So that was your adventure as Captain Trial Scott. But I'm curious if you ever got called back to the other roles or had interested in appearing another star Trek shows. Oh I would I would have been there in a moment. That did not occur yet. Is the keyword excellent now. Did you find that after you appeared on Star Trek? Were jobs easier to get or harder to get because you did this fi show. Oh they were not easier to get and I have a part of my my being is. I'm a chameleon can change one strand on my hair and I look completely different so when I'm out or this name or was auditioning I never looked for saying I think the voice may the same stature. Yes of course but it was not relatable until years later that people you could put those two things together and so no it. It definitely did not make it easier. So after Star Trek you continue on with your career. You get to do a episode. How's your grace under fire? And since you brought up comedy we're going to talk about your appearance on Seinfeld. Got TO BE UPSET. A seinfeld in their last season and that episodes called the burning for you played Dr Wexler. And you've got to work directly with Michael Richards Bryan Poston and Danny would burn as these characters go to a medical school to act out symptoms of diseases for medical students to practice diagnosing and As well as that senior got to work with Daniel Day Kim really before he got his known as he is today but What what was it like being on set with Michael Richards and being able to work on Seinfeld? Were you a fan of the show at the time? I was out the box crazy unless the date. I'M GONNA use it was. It was absolutely surreal. You know to see the master craftsmen go at their work and be just as funny in person as they are on film onto the I it was joy. It was just joyful. When I'm doing my work I am in my my my my happy place and I'm in my safe space then and I come prepared and I'm ready to work. And that's what it was you know and to be a in the room with all these. Nafta artist. Dan I scrape. It was just wonderful. I don't know how else to explain it. And and Jerry site though he just such a low q quite character. You know I don't know I can't explain anymore. Matthew I'm smiling now because the experience it was just a great experience. I I've been fortunate enough to really liked being there. I was good bad indifferent What was going on around me. I knew what my purpose was and it was great to interact with on being in the evenings cheese and bring my stuff to it and we make we make it work. Just watched the episode yesterday and I. I'm just trying to imagine you onset keeping a straight face while Michael Richards it's Panama having having gonorrhea and then having all this other stuff has I mean what were you able to actually keep a straight face throughout the entire take No I would Turn away and then. I had that clipboard. In my hand I'd be behind the clipboard cracking up but we we we. We got to it because the camera wasn't on me most of the time when I was had a that was that afforded me the opportunity to use that clipboard. Enter just yeah next tech. It was not. It was not easy at all. He is guy well. Let's miss for a little bit now to twenty eleven. And you're in a movie called Flit streets which you're starring alongside very talented Harry Shearer. I just a little bit of background for our listeners. What this is about Harry had been living in New Orleans since the end of the eighties and he became a very outspoken advocate in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina that. Let's make the documentary called the big easy which was all about Jala. Hurricane Katrina had affected the people in Louisiana and Then he went onto make flood streets starring and executive producer of that film which you were cast in and It's really tremendous dramatic role. He talked a little bit about that film. What attracted you to be part of it. Well what attracted me was that I was actually living in New Orleans at the time I was in Baton Rouge and I got a call from the agent that What's working with me there in the southeast at that time and I went out and When I read the script I went. There is such a poignant piece. This The event itself was so tragic and to be able to use The creativity and talent that I've been given to individualize to make this real for myself. I did not have anyone. That was a part of it but being there being on the streets walking into that house that this character Linden seeing the watermark it just broke my heart and Could feel energy of the devastation that had taken place there and so it was more than motivation to delve into that character and this is a character of substantial depth even though she not on camera that launched essential character but she was an integral character because it spoke volumes for all those people that ended up in that position and we might not know Know about so. I was very very pleased to be able to be there and to do that kind of work. And as we're discussing this I can almost hear your voice Kind of a change in you that now there were discussing this movie and out affect you directly as well so again. We're going back to that internal becoming external. What part of yourself did you put into that character and flood streets. That's a good question and I should add especially for folks who haven't seen this movie. It's a real great ensemble piece. Also everybody's really really great performances all around and I think people know you especially just from Star Trek. This is a great look at what you can do with your bills. More saw on next generation and in what into answer your question. The only word that's coming up for me is remote. I have Part of me that becomes very silent and very remote and I think that part of me served me well by being able to drudge up. Those vary deep feelings That apply and it moves me to a place of Deeper understanding in a deeper connection Even though I was not there at that I too am a part of this so it. It's the remote spaces in the can go in and just become very quiet and very still and allow energies elements to speak through me Yes I know. It's hard to explain the good. Do that much. Understand what experience like yeah to speak food character. That character gave me opportunity to you to use the remote part of Hawaii. So I'd like to follow that up with another dramatic performance. He did more recently. Actually that's a film called all or nothing and it's based on a true story. I tell our audience what that movies about. And just how how much of yourself again was in that role because that's like another very personal kind of film for You. Yeah it's very personal Of course we see this this this subject matter has been done over and over and over again what I mean by. That is the enslaved people of this country When we think of enslavement we normally think of the South. But this was an eye opener and based on a real story These are people twenty one. It If you want to look up the incident it's called the escape of the twenty one and this happened in mid America so and we traveled to that area. We shot in Detroit and Chicago and not Chicago Detroit yes Detroit and Chicago and One of the place that we were in as well and to Go through that experience Hardwood wrenching You've got the opportunity to the these actually shot are the beautiful spaces that were anticipation that that that were that had people inflated floyd on them and so that energy is still there and Well the director I worked with him many times before as a student here. I did a lot of the students films when he was studying. L. ACC and so he when he called me to do this he actually wrote me and the wife of one of the real life characters. My character is a fictional character but she represents all the stories of the women who were there and we don't hear from and so that was my motivation To shine the light on these women have had this experience. And you don't really feel about. I'm hoping you could shed some insight also as a performer. Then you're talking about these experiences. It takes clearly a lot of mental and emotional toll on herself. Venos- environments to be in these plantations. Even imagined. Even being in costume onset for this type of film just takes a lot of toll on yourself so as a performer. What do you do to handle all this weight? Put on you you know. I think I'm league since I came here. I think we I and I said this earlier. We all come here with something to do. I have always been very mad ache and deeply silent. I did not know why that was but that is what serves me. That serves me very well. I've always been a reader so I'm now the research part of it and in no matter what that character is on the page I always research and then I take that research into by matching nation and all these things serve me in connecting with that character. But I don't have to live with it once I'm done. You know I can go into it and they can come out of it and these elements of me I've always been connected with the sadness of WHO I am. I would cry at the drop of a hat. I remember my mother staying. She's walked through the room and my sister. My young sister and I are watching TV. We're both sitting there crying because it's been a TV commercial. I'm easily moved to tears. Not that I weep all the time but when it comes I allow it to happen and so I think that was one of the piece. This takes me back to my mentor. Milton. Pat Selous introduced me to the universal principle. A the art of being the art of allowing you cannot be unless you allow these things to come through so without putting dampers on it without putting filters on it I am just there and I allow it to come through and that takes me sometimes places that I never thought I would go but I love it. I love doing able to connect in that way and I just want to add on top as well something. I've noticed now. They've gotten to look at a lot of your work. That isn't just star. Trek found that in all the roles you play even the comedic ones. There's like this quiet strength and pride to everything that you do. What would you attribute to that sort of inner strength? You portraying all of your roles on college. The women's like I was raised in a household of women. Women women my grandfather was there. My uncles were there but not all the time I grant. I grew up with in my grandfather's house so he was a mainstay but so rounded the were women. I call the women in white because on Sunday. These women were dressed up in their whites and they would do whatever was necessary to do in the community whether it was healing whether it was going to see sick whether it's feeding nurturing Take birthing of those things. Should that to the women. I grew up being surrounded by I think that seeing that energy I call them substantial. They worked with everything they had. They bought everything their head they had and I think that's part of it. And then one of my other favorite people is Robert Deniro and happened to be in your presence at one time and he was very quiet and very reserved very pool. That and later I heard him say in an interview that he is not outgoing. Shy and I think most of us who walk around with this this this powerhouse with energy very reserved and very quote shy As a matter of fact Scott took me. I thought this about me. He says I'm wondering when you're going to stop being so shy but that's my reserve. Is that what you just said Yeah but it's the surroundings I grew up in time that I grew up and be investment and the community investment in the family. At that time I believe is what contributed. I think this is one of the things I like doing about this. Podcast is that I get to kind of see the full circle journey of my guests and this case here. We're seeing now the where you pull this inner strength from as a young person and now where we are today in some of the more recent work. You're doing it as an educator Which involves the mythical figure of California? So I'd like you to kind of tell. Tell us a little bit about the work that you're doing to bring more attention to Colossians for our listeners. Don't know who is this person. Well they say that she's a bit but for me. This is only based on a cultural. An oral cultural history. Columbia is the name of the Warrior General that the State of California is named for so. I have been researching her for years. When I was at when I was studying at the Inner City Cultural Center. I got an opportunity to work with the director of that place. Its name was c Bernard Jackson and he wrote a piece called piano box. And that was this character called Susan Coffee but formation came through a that play and it was so intriguing for me. I started researching because I didn't know anything about it and she's taught about in schools and most people don't know a lot about her And so I've been researching and research and the word co Lafia is not who she is. It is a title so these are women who lead their people into war into into a government. They were the Go-to it is the power of the community and it's the title at. They carry now what I had been doing. Is I've been doing lots of readings with her. I had I've written some pieces and I presented her readers theater. I'm trying to figure out now how to continue with it. And I believe it's going to be so a mix of culture and history and spoken word and poetry. I love to dance and so that I bring that element as as well because I found out when a lot of warriors go into battle they. I write a letter to their family case. They don't come back and they burn that that's ritual to me and I love which will They then it's like and and that was a lie that got me it's like body black and streaming and dancing into battle and so I- dance on the stage into battle and Such a powerful powerful Energy that is I have done it for adults. I do it For young people as well and the young people are so engaged because they see all elements coming together and they can see themselves on that stage and that gives me the most That that gives me the impetus to really move forward is into emily. Lightning them of this unknown on Song. History that nobody talks about and not believe that if my mission she's not the only one there are many characters out there of color many women characters of color that I love to breathe life into and bring them forward so I'm putting together but things that I've written and hopefully have a piece. Maybe an hour long that I can start presenting a game. I look forward to that and hopefully torn come my way in New York. I'd love to be able to see it. Oh I'd love to do that. Thank you so I understand. Also that you've got a really very big love with Billie holiday. You've done some work with her as a character like he tell us a little bit about the performances that you've done about Billie holiday yes It was a A juicy a Christmas celebration where or would be wonderful entity that we know of the Billy Eckstein Syrup funds are Billie holiday. Would gather at this place. It's based on real life. They would come to this particular restaurant and they will perform you know for the been overseas for the people in the neighborhood and the whole number and I got a great opportunity Using my voice and singing not one but two Billie holiday songs I also more research into her and found out that not only was she what history says she was but she was also an activist. And there's a book that I'm reading now and I'd love to be able to work on that aspect of her in a one person show so It was amazing. Amazing amazing and I was of course very timid to step into those shoes because my voice is my singing voice was not something. I use a lot outside of my shower but the more I did it. Why was able to connect with the music to connect with the words and it became very presentable. And so I'm proud of that work and you mentioned that really. Holly was an activist and a lot of the people of Color who entertainers in the forties fifties sixties. They were all many of them. Were very invested in a Lotta politics at a time. When we had the civil rights movement going on so were there any other performers that really had an impact on you growing up during that era that looked at being on stage and screen but also saw them and their activism Horn Us Mode Harry Belafonte Sidney Poitier. Yeah they were all activists As well as limiting their time and talent and the money to causes and opening continuing to open those doors through which I may able to walk There's so many more of them Whose names are but those are the ones that on top of my head. Right now And Billy One more thing about billy holiday. The phone that she made so phenomenal. Strange fruit was actually written at a point. I and at and the began and it morphed into a protest song so when that song when I hear it I have a whole nother take on it now. It's not just a beautiful moving piece of music that that highlights horrendous time in all history but it has a double mean you know it. Is it here in this Jazz John? But it's also very historical and it is a part of Activism. So aside from your work doing that right now what else is Bryant? Doing Twenty twenty. Well I have always been teaching artists and I started many years ago in the city of For the city I actually worked for the city of Los Angeles and I began teaching Through summer arts camp and after school programs and then moved into administration and right now the city has a program that I'm involved with it is now online virtual and then they are certifying the teaching artists for the city of Los Angeles and going through that course and beyond that I do work for the city of Los Angeles in A venue called the Madrid theater in in the valley Before that I spent six years at the Vision Theater in Lamar Park where I actually ran. The House and Was able to afford opportunities to that area of Los Angeles where they came in writers producers directors and we were able to give them a space to explore their work in their talent. So I love the background of the business. I love the business of the business but my passion is the performance art. I I had a class. I have class of Elders that are so wise and so talented and there's not really a continual space for them to perform so they got the opportunity to work on all of that and bring forth that creativity through the class and through a lot of the readers. Peter's projects that I've been involved with so I'm this class that I'm taking is so wonderful. It's been to me up to date with what's actually going on in the teaching artist world and so it's only enriching me so that I can go back to that class and take this information to them. So we can broaden that scope and bring bird energy and very motion their talent and put it out there and so. That's what I'm doing now. All right now. I'm sitting at my window in my living room working remotely from home so thank you so much for being on the show. I have one last question for you. And that's what is the best thing about being a part of the Star Trek Universe. Oh there's so many things but I'm going to bring this up because lately it is increased. It is fans because of Scott Ray and his stick to witness I was able to do my first signing convention the fans. I incredible they know. Captain Try to Scott. They know her dialogue. They follow her. I continue to get fan mail from all over the world and that makes me feel that the drop in the bucket that I was able to contribute to this nano and it just so many people and it's the gift that keeps giving their incredible all right well wrestling Bryant. Thank you so much for your time. And to captain trial. Scott thank you for your service with starfleet. We really appreciate your time today. And thanks for chatting with us about your entire career and everything you've been doing before after Enduring Times. Thank you Matthews a pleasure. I want to thank you for joining us and sharing so many great stories with us as we mentioned earlier. The episode of Next Generation that first appeared in one with quite a bit of controversy attached to a conspiracy first aired in the UK. Several minutes the show were censored specifically the ramic being blown up when the episode aired in Canada. It came to the viewer discretion warning as for those evil little parasites. They were teased at the end of the to a greater threat and that they would return but they never did come back to stop any trouble again at least not in the TV series. They did make a comeback in DC comics next generation issue from Nineteen ninety-two written by prolific trek author Michael Jan Friedman where the aliens were revealed to be called the Anglo to. They returned once more in a short story from the lives of Dax theology novel in Nineteen Ninety nine which tied them into a much bigger story. Arc THAT FRANKLY. We need to talk about that. So thank you for listening to this week's episode of Trek Untold. If you haven't already please subscribe to the show and if you can leave her view and rating we'd appreciate it very much. You can also follow us on social media just look for trek untold on facebook twitter and instagram. We'd love to hear from you. Let us know what you think about the show. If you'd like to support this podcast checkout Patriot dot com slash trek untold. Learn how you can keep our ship already. Full power once again. Thank you to our sponsor triple fiction productions and shut up to Scott Ray for setting up this interview. If you like the book this week's guest for a convention appearance or autograph signing eventual. Or anything else. 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