Shutdown slows already backlogged immigration courts, the KGB in NYC, a probe of the Mueller probe?
US troops. Still in harm's way in Syria today on the world. I'm Marco werman ISIS claims responsibility for a blast that killed US troops in Syria today, some in congress Warri President Trump's plan to pull out US troops as emboldened the enemy my concern by the statements made the President Trump is it you'd set in motion enthusiasm by the enemy refunding. Also, the shutdown effect on are already overwhelmed immigration courts. It means that Faouzi of cases across the country are being counseled on a daily basis and on the Brexit beat what an open border means to someone in Derry Northern Ireland. I go to walk my dog. I walk my dog in the nearby beach. And that happens to be in the Republic of Ireland. Brexit might change that those stories today on the world. I'm Marco werman. And with the world we're going to begin with news today out of northern Syria a bomb attack claimed by ISIS that killed US. Servicemembers? Details are still sketchy. But this is what we know the US military confirmed that at least two American troops died in an explosion at a restaurant in the town of man bitch. According to the Syrian observatory for human rights at least sixteen people were killed in the blast residents in the area said an American helicopter was seen landing to take away wounded US personnel. The world's Matthew bell has been following the story in is with me in the studio. What do we know Matthew? This reportedly happened near a vegetable market and the CC TV video I was just watching pretty horrifying. It's broad daylight. It shows people walking on the sidewalk outside of a little restaurant. There's women there's little boy there. Suddenly, there's an explosion of fireball sends people fleeing witnesses told Reuters that American troops and their local militia partner. Were on patrol nearby. Isis was driven out of man bitch. And the town is controlled by Kurdish forces allied with the US report said that at least sixteen people total were killed in this attack. Maybe even as many as twenty. Yeah. It's just awful. It's been a few weeks. Now since Donald Trump said that ISIS was defeated and US troops in Syria would be coming home soon any sense that a deadly attack like this could change the administration's plans for Syria. Right. That was a little less than a month ago. Donald Trump surprise pretty much everyone with that announcement as the details of today's attack were being reported. Mike Pence was speaking to a gathering of US ambassador's about US policy in Syria. We've promised under this presently you should to take the fight to radical Islamic terrorists on our terms on their soil president. I couldn't be more proud. Thanks to the leadership of this commander in chief in the courage and sacrifice of our armed forces. We're now actually able to begin to hand off the fight. Against ISIS in Syria to our coalition partners. And we're bringing our troops home. The caliphate has crumbled, an ISIS has been defeated. There's been a lot of pushback on Trump's decision to pull out of Syria. I mean, even prompted the departure of the Defense Secretary James Mattis, what is the latest on this decision? There's real skepticism in Washington, and that includes among Republicans on Capitol Hill today, Lindsey Graham, Senator from South Carolina, interrupted a hearing that was about a totally unrelated issue to talk about the attack and manage and he brought up real questions about the president's thinking on Syria, not concern by the statements made the President Trump is it you'd set in motion enthusiasm by the enemy were fighting. You make people were trying to help wonder about us, and as they get bolder. The people were trying to help are gonna get more uncertain. Saw this in Iraq. And now seeing it in Syria. All right. So what is attack today tells about ISIS and their abilities right now? Right. I talked with Charles Lister who's a terrorism expert at the Middle East institute in Washington. He said. Mike Pence's, right? The so-called caliphate on the ground is like ninety nine percent taken away from ISIS. But in terms of being a terrorist group with real deadly capabilities. He said ISIS is very far from being defeated department defense as effectively in crisis mode right now trying to plan the military withdrawal from the country. As I understand it. Senior officials within the US government continue to push hard against the idea of an overly hurried withdrawal from Syria. I think outcome of this is unclear Markle. The Trump administration has said that it is fighting for the quote, unquote, enduring defeat of ISIS Lister said that is likely a long way away and that the question now for the president is what is an attack. Like this mean for the decision to pull US troops out of Syria. The top brass at the Pentagon is telling the White House to go slowly be deliberate careful that this cannot be done without meeting certain conditions. I and that's gonna take time the world's Matthew bell telling about an ISIS attack. That killed US troops today in Syria. People in Nairobi Kenya woke up two gunshots. This morning the terrorist attack the began yesterday at the Doucet hotel complex. There was finally coming to an end al-shabaab militants have claimed responsibility for this coordinated attack an attack that killed fourteen. People several dozen other people are still missing Kenyan President who who can yada says his country is grieving today. Tommy allow deposi Africa's security correspondent with our partners at the BBC. And today he went to the scene of the attack. We've been down at the Dusit hotel complex, which is not far from our view row here that means we HUD and felt the explosions yesterday. But today, it's been a lot more calm. There's been a lot of when we went the not too long ago. Ambulances five brigade lots of police and other security agents, but they seem to be, you know, just watching it's his is if the operation has ended as the president. Announced Elliott today. But obviously for Kenyans waking up to the reality that this was not a bad dream. This was actually a case where a lot of blood was shed. And so it's now just finding out who exactly survived and who was lost. And I think that is what Kenyans coming to terms with today. Now, the al-shabaab connection is something that has worried Kenyans for years and a day before the attack. So on Monday three men face the beginning of a trial for the al-shabaab west gate mall attack. Also in Nairobi, that's was in two thousand thirteen what's going on with the trial now? Well, that trial is looks like it's going to go ahead. That's five years after more than five years after the west gate attack, and the trial is only sort of just getting on its on its feet. So. It's not clear, exactly. How long this process is going to take? But some people would say it's better just late Justice than the none at all at the same time. When when Kenyans look at this kind of incident, then they wonder about the latest attack. And if I all the perpetrators will be brought to Justice soon enough, something that's really striking are the campaigns. I've been seeing on social media like Kenyans working together to encourage each other lift up their spirits banding together. What are you seeing and hearing from people in Nairobi following the attack? Yeah, there's been a lot of that. I think Kenyans specially keen not to Cao in fear, especially when these attacks happen. Yes. There is criticism in pot of of the government, you know, for not being able to to prevent this kind of tack. But at the same time there is that solidarity with seeing people saying, you know, we're canyons rally together. To to stand up against these attacks and these attacks should not stop people from living their lives and carrying on. So there is there is that obviously the attackers who algebra claiming to have been OSH about the jihad is largely based Amalia. They would want to stabilize the country. They would want to instill fear among Kenyans, but Kenyans that are fighting back and saying, no, we will stand and not Cowan fear, and as someone who follows a story. I mean, what are you worried about? What are you looking out for Tommy right now? I think the main thing is whether lessons are being learned from these attacks, you know, west gate happened five years ago if you look at the response, then the response to yesterday's attack. There were definitely signs that some lessons have been learned in in terms of coordination in terms of the speed of the response in terms of getting people out in terms of you and just the way the security forces conducted themselves, but if you look at things like intelligence gathering and acting upon intelligence, they are still questions about that, for example, some security analysts suggesting that there was intelligence about this particular tack that was downplayed by by the authorities. So yes, some lessons have been learned. But they still some way to go. Tommy allow depots the BBC's Africa security correspondent during his Senate confirmation hearing president Donald Trump's nominee for. Attorney general William bar tried to reassure sceptics. He told lawmakers that he would protect the integrity of the Muller Russia probe but not everyone was convinced. I respect him. But I am still very uncomfortable with Mr. bar not because of his performance at the hearing. But because the fact that prior to his nomination he had sent these unsolicited. I felt somewhat unseemly opinions to the White House department of Justice and Trump advisors basically saying his view of undermining the molar investigation and having a very expansive use of executive power that Senator Mark Warner the vice chair of the Senate intelligence committee. He thinks bar should withdraw his nomination. If we didn't have a case where we've got in Donald Trump someone who's been literally obsessed about the Muller investigation is at every corner tried to undermine it. And now the fact that Mr. bar even with his good reputation had expressed these same concerns that. The Muller investigation. And since could be undermined is deeply troubling to me. The Muller investigation is so important. There are so many questions been raised. There's so much that for example, we have raised on our Senate intelligence committee investigation as well that we're not at liberty to disclose at this point. The only way the American public is going to hear the whole truth about what happened and how we make sure this happen again is if the Muller investigation is allowed to go on unimpeded and just the possibility that bar would undermine that in my mind means that he still got a long way to go before I could ever see to support him. And in addition of those Barma Senator yesterday, we saw Lindsey Graham, the new chair of the judiciary committee seemed to get President Trump's in new pick William bar to agree to investigate the people investigating Trump. So there would be a probe of the mullahs probe. Well that what would that mean? Well, to me that sounds very similar to the circus that took place in the house. Over the last two years where the house intelligence committee, basically investigated. The investigators went out and investigated the FBI when after people that were involved in the Muller pro they came up with zero outcome. And I think that would be a candidate a waste of resources. I mean in the United America where no one is above the law, including the president nited states, if based on political reasons we start launching investigations of law enforcement when they have independently reached a sense that they need to start an investigation. We're into uncharted territory both legally and in terms of our overall respect for rule of law in this country. So what do you think is a probe of the probe likely to happen? I would be surprised and disappointed if whoever becomes attorney general would try to launch a probe of the probe. And I mean, this is the first time in my lifetime where I've seen such broad based attacks against the overall integrity of the department of Justice. And the FBI it's been frankly stunning to me and being from Virginia. We have a lot of those F B I and department of Justice professionals who live in our area and the morale at these agencies because of particularly Mr. Trump's kind of ad hominem attacks is pretty low at this point. And that is a that is a concern to me. Do you think bar is signaling anything to Muller and his comments at these hearings? Mr. bars got to distinguish legal career, I but I feel like the whole notion that he sent these memos. These unsolicited memos which seemed to be in a sense most job application saying a on Trump. Don't worry. I'll have your back. I don't think Muller is that model may be going too far. I think that what we need to maintain the credibility of the molar investigation. And the president should have picked someone that would come with an essense neutral views or would have come one of the things that concern me about Mr. bars. Testimony yesterday was he said if the ethics officers at the Justice department said he should recuse himself. He didn't agree to that recusals. Again. There's never been an attorney general to my knowledge other than the current acting attorney general who went through no clearance went through no approval process at all that said that they could reject the considered ethical opinions from the Justice department lawyers about refusal on issues like the investigation Senator Mark Warner. Democrat from Virginia the vice chair of the Senate intelligence committee. Thanks very much for being with Senator. Thank you so much you're with the world. I'm Marco werman. You're with the world. This might be a first house speaker Nancy Pelosi sent a note to President Trump suggesting he postponed his state of the union address because of the government shutdown the shutdown is now twenty six days in and counting. Some federal employees are being called back to work like I r s workers who processed tax returns. But their paychecks will remain on hold. Meantime, one place where federal employees are not going back to work the US immigration courts. Saw Gonzalez have KCRW and Santa Monica has that story. In the lobby of the US immigration court building in downtown LA. There's a notice informing visitors the court is closed because of the government shutdown. And if you missed the notice the private security guards at the front desk will tell you guys. Immigration courts are closed. Everything's close. All right. Thank you guys on normal days. This is one of the busiest immigration courts in the country with over seventy six thousand cases, on its docket annually, many those cases involving migrants seeking political asylum in the US and each of the courtrooms are just jammed packed with APL and today, a goes to absolutely goes Tam, Ashley tab, doors, immigration judge assigned to this court, and she's president of the national association of immigration. Judges Tabarez says the country's under staff immigration system was already struggling with a crushing backlog of cases, and the government shutdown only makes that worse. It means that sounds of cases across the country are being counseled on a daily basis. And as you know, we have well over eight hundred thousand pending cases for just a little bit shy of four hundred judges. So the impact, but everyday that's missed becomes much more pronounced when we return in half. To address that. And of course, the shutdown means a longer wait for people who have business before America's immigration courts, including those petitioning for asylum, and there's a chance there cases might even be moved to the back of the weight line when the government does reopen as a way to deal with scheduling gridlock. Outside of the courthouse. People who come for their schedule court dates linger after being turned away in the lobby. Vicky. Guzman is from L Salvador and has legal status here, but she's trying to get asylum for teenage daughter because violence in her native country. They've waited a year for this court date. On the like what? Waiting for the court, and they cancelled it. But I am hoping for something better for my daughter. So she kind of stalled here do more with her life. I don't want her to. So for the way that I saw. Chrissy. Then think followed we asked the president to open the court. So my daughter and the older parents with finally can come to court for judge tablet, or she notes. The irony that standoff over building a border wall to keep undocumented people out has paralyzed a court system that's essential to deporting people who are unlawfully in the US, and like other federal employees tablet, Aures worried about the financial bite of the shutdown lead. Just missed our first paycheck that we were supposed to have. So obviously now I'm living off of savings. I'm frankly, really worried about our support staff. There are I'm sure some who are perhaps living paycheck to paycheck that missing one paycheck is going to have a tremendous impact on them. And so there is this inside ity and stress associated with missing your paycheck and not knowing when the next paycheck is going to be there. And I guess. That puts you as a US immigration judge in the same boat in very fundamental ways. Tens of thousands of other employees of the government. Absolutely. We are slightly more fortunate because as immigration as we do have a higher salary than other employees, but in comparison to our private sector counterparts, we make a fraction of what we are owning potential is. And so yes, we're all in it together. We're all in this sinking boat together for the world soul. Kansallis Los Angeles. January sixteenth nineteen Seventy-nine started out as just another day for Iranian shallow because he was working in academia, but had recently left journalism, the leader of Iran Shaw, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi had made it impossible for reporters to do their jobs, but cautioned just left his office to grab some lunch. When he saw a man in an open Jeep holding aloft at newspaper with huge. Dj headlines saying the Shaw has gone, and there was an explosion of celebration. All around me that day forty years ago was a turning point the Iranian revolution would happen within weeks by cauti-. I've been watching since the previous summer as protests against the Shah grew and grew but cautious now professor emeritus of Middle East history at George Mason University today, I asked him how he felt back then as the Shah left Iran, and whether he realized that the time how influential the Muslim clerics were at fomenting protests. I must say, I'm not boasting. But I think I was among the minority who did realize that because a great many members of the middle class and the intellectual elite thought what they were witnessing was a kind of revolution to establish democracy. But it was very clear to me watching those huge demonstrations in Iran, where hundreds of thousands of people came out into the streets that the leadership was with the members of the clergy. You know, I think certainly the growing opposition to the Shah to Kim by surprise at least. There was an anecdote of the time that he did finally view the demonstrations from a helicopter tone was astonished at the size of them that came time into wrong when hundreds of thousands of people were taking part in these protests. What were you personally concerned about once the Shaw left, and I it was clear that the toll ahead come back and was in charge. What you must remember. It was a period immediately after the root of enormous disc. Order things as it were breaking down the first prime minister after the revolution. Midi Maza gone described himself as a knife without a blade and talked to Horon city with thousands sheriff's show. You're in Iranian Jew. Was that also a concern for you? What of course, it was a source of concern ahead. Read homies tracked on Islam. The government has very clear what is intentions were. What was established was basically theocracy so going back to this day for years ago, ninety seventy nine as you said, you were not a democ- in Tehran before that you'd worked as a journalist did the people you hung out with reporters and western trained academics. Were they excited about what lay ahead after the departure of the Shah? Yes, I think they were excited. I think on my old newspaper the reporters in detail staff and the printers or university for their evolution. I was in a way surprise that at my university as I say just in the process of being established with PHD's from issue diversities in the United States like MIT and Caltech, and what have you all my colleagues were for the revolution. So certainly the enthusiasm for the overthrow the monarchy was very widespread. Although I think people expected. Many different things from the revolution. Each pitting his own her own expirations to what they felt the outcome would be sometimes very wrongly Joe by cauti-, professor emeritus of Middle East history at George Mason University. He's been recalling his memories of forty years ago today when he lived in Tehran and learned that the Shah and his wife had left the country, shell grit to speak with you. Thanks for your time and your thoughts. My pleasure. Your with the world. I'm Marco werman. We're still learning about the first enslaved African sold in Virginia four hundred years ago, we have a Jamestown without any question a site where one of those fest Africans Angela lift the early roots slavery in America. That's just ahead here on the world. I'm Marco werman and with the world where co production of the BBC World Service PRI and WG cheer in Boston. This just in Theresa May is still the British Prime minister she survived a vote of no confidence in parliament today. Just yesterday lawmakers rejected her Brexit plan. Confusing. Of course, it is. It's present when it comes to Britain's plans to leave the European Union. I think this Londoner speaks for many in the UK right now. Kale civic on his of no idea to do next. Only haven't been turning off. I'm so fed up with the old. It's been two plus years of Brexit chaos. The Irish land border is still a huge sticking-point Sinead. Mcglaughlin is on the city council in Derry Northern Ireland. That's right on the border between British Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. I go to my dog. I walk my dog in the nearby beach and the happens to be in the Republic of Ireland so different jurisdiction, but still part of our hinterland. It's where we go to play on all sorts of things that are just normal everyday. Tiffany's for normal citizens over region and to have it divided. An anyway, it would be a very retrograde step back. I mean, I'm of age that I can remember a hard border and Northern Ireland. It Wilson pleasant, and it really had a very negative cultural impact on citizens right across signed and to go back to those. Stays with bay. It just it would be on stoppable. Couldn't just couldn't think about it or contemplated that retrograde step. So it really is fundamental. It's strafing at high badly, negotiate. This whole Rex issue has been from UK perspective. I think it's gonna be more of the same for the next few months. What is the mood like the Derry city council meetings days, they're concerned, but you know, many ways it's business as usual because an absence of knowing where you're going. You can't spend your whole time oriented by on you don't want to spend an awful lot of money making plans of may never be needed. And at this stage with seventy five days or seventy four days to go before the twenty ninth March, you know, all of that we would have at least unin site into the future hailed urban school to hold on. We still don't so it's very regrettable. Very. Frustrating, the Chinese proverb. May you live in addressing chain has never been more apt your wishes came true if that is your wish so you're you're in a holding pattern. What are you hopeful for going future? Honestly from the very art set. I also was vice chair of the remain campaign for Northern Ireland. And from the very art set. We knew the Northern Ireland to remain in the union fingle market in order to maintain Novem border. So going forward my wishes if we are to Brexit oil, which is not what I won't today on his not good for for Northern Ireland anti-ship, but if we do then I would like to remain in the customs union on the single market there by nothing the backstop Norton knock Natan any borders within divided Sinead McLaughlin is a member of Derry city council in Northern Ireland giving us her take on Brexit Sinead. Thanks very much for your time. Thank you another place where Brexit is aggravating longstanding tensions. Scotland remember in two thousand fifteen Scotland narrowly voted to remain part of the UK then the next year with Brexit. Sixty two percent of Scots voted to remain in the EU while majorities in England and Wales voted the other way Joanna cherry represents southwest Edinburgh and the British parliament her party, the Scottish National Party is calling for a second. Brexit referendum faxes to save. Theresa me is determined to stand by the deal that she's got as it is. If she can't get her deals through the house of Commons. We think she'd take it to the people of the United Kingdom. So they have a choice between the deal, but she has negotiated on the option of remaining, and what makes you so confident that another referendum would go differently. I'm confident that in the Scots in the Northern Irish will vote for Rabin. I am reasonably confident that the English and the Welsh unlike last time look shoes remain this time when they look at facts last time all sorts of promises were made by. The leave campaign Nuff proved to be undeliverable. Some of us would say that they were actually lies the let's just call them undeliverable promises. And I think people should be given a chance to vote in possession of the facts that is also very important for your listeners to understand that. I'm a member of national party Uber. The biggest party in Scotland in our number one policy is an independent Scotland within the European Union. So if the second EU referendum doesn't happen and the Scots don't get a chance to vote again on staying in the EU, then we have a mandate to hold a second independence referendum in Scotland on that's what we intend to do. So if Theresa May back next week and says, you know, what just forget, the whole Brexit thing would everything go back to normal, and I know that's unrealistic scenario. But do you think this whole process may have brought a bad feelings and Scotland that just won't go away that easily now undoubtedly in in two thousand fourteen we nearly those of us who wish to see an independent, and we nearly won the referendum. But we. Didn't one of the main reasons we didn't was the promises were made to the people of Scotland such as you are an equal partner in the United Kingdom without being shown to be untrue. Because although the Scots have voted to remain in the European Union. We face being taken out because are bigger the bigger country England over rights are vote we've been following this Brexit stories since the beginning since two thousand sixteen and it's still arcane to a lot of us. If there was one thing you want Americans to understand about Brexit. What is it? America's on just onto Brexit is the Brexit referendum in two thousand sixteen was one in England and Wales on the back of lies in Scotland. Northern Ireland voted to remain on their views of being completely overlooked by the conservative government, and Brexit will probably lead to the break-up of the United Kingdom. MP Joanna cherry making the Scotland Brexit connection. Thanks very much. My pleasure. Twenty nineteen is a milestone in American history in world history. Four hundred years ago. The first enslaved Africans were sold in the English colonies of new world, the beginning of slavery. And today, the US is still dealing with the massive impact the world Rupa Shenoy visited the spot that's recognized as the place where those first enslaved Africans arrived. It's in Virginia on a peninsula called point comfort to get to it. You have to take a bridge over a moat on the other side is a stone wall with a narrow gap that my car just fits through come on. You've never been here before have you? So what'd you drove across the boat. Robert Kelly's historian at fort Monroe, the largest stone fort in America inside is amazed of rooms separated by stone arches now, it's used as a museum little short gave insurers. We arrive at a small model of what they think the first fort built here. Look like it's a cabin surrounded by cannons and offense the Jamestown settlers built it in sixteen nine. There was the constant threat of attack by sea from the Spanish service a lookout and allow the colonists. Upper Jamestown, forty miles up the river to know, hey, somebody potential enemies coming into the into the Chesapeake Bay, and we need to prepare at I four had burned down by the time a ship called the white lion. Arrived carrying twenty African slaves. They were traded for food and supplies, even though there were no written laws governing slavery at the time. John wall who was the secretary of the column he records event, John? Ralph was poke haunted husband. He noted the date as August sixteen nineteen. Climb up to an overlook on top of the fort an American flag snaps in the wind. You look out on the horizon, and you can see why there's a fort here. Looking down at an expansive natural harbor for the Atlantic. Ocean meets the Chesapeake Bay and the James river in front of us across the water are three aircraft carriers and Norfolk naval station the largest naval port in the world. Sixteen nineteen state markers. Actually, it's so bright can barely see. But it's a state market right down there along the seawall to white time with black letters. That says this is where the first inflamed Africans arrived. It went up in the nineteen ninety s before that Calvin Pearson says no one knew the real history Pearson grew up in Hampton, the city that's home to fort Monroe me, why is the landing so important. And I tell them that to me is like your birth. You can only be born one time, nobody can change that fact to their propaganda or marketing or promotion, no in tourism needs Pearson's talking about historic Jamestown, an attraction with colonial archaeological sites and reconstructed buildings. He says people thought it was the arrival site so Pearson founded a group called project sixteen nineteen it's been working for more than two decades to raise awareness. That the first Africans arrived at point comfort renew. Eventually the four hundred anniversary would come. It was important to us start this movement twenty five years ago because if we had not the story we telling today, the commemoration that Virginia is starting to promote would have taken place at Jamestown. They suddenly arrived at point comfort. We have Johm roofs sauce for that. But that's no mentioned in the sources the the Africans actually landed that James horn is president of Jamestown rediscovery the foundation that runs historic Jamestown. He thinks the Africans were probably kept on the ship at point comfort. So they wouldn't have a chance to escape horn says it's likely buyers road out to the ship to barter on board, then returned with the slaves to Jamestown the next census shows several living there along with Africans from the white lions sistership the treasurer we. Jamestown without any question a site where one of those first Africans Angela lift, and I think that without taking anything away from point comfort on Hampton in terms of that's where the ships stopped home route. What significant to me is we might learn more about the African experience by looking at the actual places. They did live rather than simply at a place where two ships arrived. There are a lot of archival records that no one's gone through yet right now. No one can say they know for sure where exactly the first slave Africans set foot. And what today is the US wherever it was Robert Kelly, the fort Monroe historian says there would be a nice poetic symmetry if it happened at point comfort because of the other big rule this place played in history on the same site where slavery begins. We see it in America. We see it began to unravel Kelly's talking about the. Civil war fort Monroe stayed in the union, even though Virginia had seceded and the fort was south of the capital of the confederacy Richmond. A hundred miles northwest things were tents may of eighteen sixty one three enslave men stole a boat just across the water in confederacy controlled country and paddled nearly three miles to fort Monroe where they asked for safe haven. It was the second day on the job for Major General Benjamin Butler. He was faced with the decision that at that point even president Lincoln had voided making whether the north should stand for freedom for slaves interviews, each each one of the men and has to decide what to do when a Representative for their owner, actually, a confederate appears here the following day Butler tells the owner that since the enslaved men had been digging ditches for the confederacy because they're being used against me in an active war. I'm going to seize this property as contra. And with that decision. Fort Monroe became a sanctuary African Americans in the south knew they could flee to for safety ten thousand came and set up camp. Life was far from perfect. But they built the foundation for a community that remains today. They called fort Monroe freedoms fortress. Dangles the present the confederacy after the civil war. He's imprisoned here. He's imprisoned in that cell right there. Davis was held here for a year and a half. Then he was released on one hundred thousand dollars bail. He was never brought to trial fort Monroe continued on as an army base in two thousand five it was slated for closure until Barack Obama urged by groups like Helvin, Pearson's designated it a national monument. Obama didn't visit then the fourth director of communications Phyllis Terrell hopes. He'll come this August when they opened a new visitor centre with a big exhibit about the Africans. Arrival Tyrrell's, a descendant of Virginian slaves. I didn't know about the arrival here at point comfort. I got the bias of the arrival at Jamestown bought into that line on a hill. Overlooking the sign proclaiming the first Africans. Arrival we come upon an elegant black rod. Arch with the name on it a name that takes me by surprise Jefferson. Davis memorial park. Yes. This was erected in the fifties. By the United daughters of the confederacy. We had the internal conversations about. Okay. What do we do with this? This artwork here. They've kept it up because it's history to Terrell says and people can learn from it. There are plans in the works for a memorial for the first Africans, but there's much less to learn about them from written history their lives effective. Millions of people who exist today, but back then they didn't warrant a mention for the world Rupa Shenoy fort Monroe. The missing voices. Tomorrow Rupe looks at how people today are dealing with the problematic gaps in our history, we very rarely find any kind of artifacts, usual item related to black people. What we have our documents that were written by white people generally people in power, we've got more about our reporting on the four hundred anniversary of slavery in the US at the world dot ORG. The New York museum saying he got the Guggenheim the met MoMA the Whitney the Noguchi, museum and queens. And now the KGB spy museum. Yup. An entire museum devoted to the infamous secret service of the Soviet Union Alina Simone just went there. And I not sure you have any reason to Alina, but we're you undercover disguise just to even get in the mood. Now, I was in street clothes, but I have to say there was definitely a Cozma irony in seeing the KGB spy. Time music next to like across joint block from the apple store in Chelsea. So who are the people behind this KGB spy museum? The carriers are a father and daughter duo, just the Julius and OG Nate or by T. Tay what you can see our offensive in real. We just have they actually run an atomic KGB bunker museum in Lithuania. So this is a larger and more robust offshoot of their first museum and a lot of the artifacts. They tell me that they amassed were in deep storage and are actually available for the first time. Here did you say KGB, atomic bunker museum that one is in Lithuania five years ago? They opened museum inside of a former atomic bunker in conus Lithuania. So what is the connection Julius? This curator has and his daughter to the KGB. I mean, why such a desire to open a museum around the secret service? Julius doesn't. Scribe himself or his family is you know, people who actually suffered at the hands of the KGB shoot Rocha your most he came into this. As a collector, he was a really avid collector of World War Two paraphernalia, especially gas masks. And it was while he was collecting this stuff that he stumbled upon his I spy artifact, which was a telephone bugging device used by Hitler's officers to spy on his own troops. And they're only one or two in existence and those pre EBay days, he realized that this was the holy grail of military collecting this whole subterranean world of artifacts, though. So SO teric so camouflaged as to be almost undetectable that hardly anyone was collecting them. So what kind of exhibits are there? What do you see as you walk through this museum? I was escorted through the museum by Julius and OG may who describes herself as a secret telephone communications. And cipher machines expert, well, both of them were were dressed in authentic, KGB, trenches and military coat. And here we have actually a Stalin slam the real selling slam. There's a lot here to delight you know, the bond fan as well as the Kremlinologist. There are these dramatically lit set pieces. Recreation of a KGB office with a safe stuffed full of Soviet era rubles to pay off spies and cash. There are these tiny cameras tucked into rings signet range win ticking picture with this remote controller when you press the handle in make some sound. And also at the moment, they had to be really professional. They had to make some sound with their Frode or would the shoe to hide the sound of taking picture there. Is this incredible tree branch that looked exactly like just something? He would save fallen in the street. After a storm and on the other side of it you walked to the other side of this glass case, and it's just catacomb down with wires and listening devices. So it was sort of a mixed between these dioramas, and these exemplars of spy technology is there anything in the museum related to Vladimir Putin now president of Russia, but once upon a time a KGB officer himself there is nothing in the museum related to Putin. I think they kind of go out of their way to be nonpolitical, but the KGB is so famous and yet what do we really know about the KGB aside from that line in Putin's Wikipedia bio, right? I think this kind of gives us our first tactile glimpse into the KGB. It's methods. It's technology not only it's tiny cameras. But it's manuals it's codes of conduct things like that. And this was a culture that flat. Amir Putin was. Steeped in. So why open a museum like this now Alina because it does seem like an interesting moment to do it. I mean, I think we can chock it up to America's enduring fascination with with Russia, right? It kind of reminded me of poli. Would you know when you see the stuff up close, you just think of sort of the world's biggest and most amazing prop department with the world's highest stakes like nuclear level stakes was it authentic enough that it made you may be for a couple of moments. Even a little nervous to be around. These trench coated spy museum curator's. There is a section of the museum where they have these authentic prison doors, and instead of the cell block windows are these little screens that have reenactments of prison life with people wearing real prison garb, but does give you chills. I mean, this was a regime that claimed millions of lives and even when it's presented in this. You know, somewhat kitschy context. They're real moments here that make you reflect on that. So you were born in Ukraine. Your parents grew up in the Soviet Union any plans to take them to the KGB spy museum. Yeah. I would absolutely like to walk them through. I'm really curious as to my dad's reaction he was actually blacklisted by the KGB they tried to recruit him as a college student, and he said, no. And you know, spent a few years doing hard labor in the army and then working as a night watchman a zoo. Where we were allowed to leave. So I'm really curious like how you would react to this inside look at their workings. Alina Simone, always good to speak with you. Thanks. Thanks Markelle real KGB disguise kit with grease paint and a pay. We have some great photos from the museum at the world dot ORG. This here is a great band that grew up in the Soviet Union aquarium or advice yomas they'd say there, we're diving into their more recent catalogue, less grim. More bluesy still in Russian. This is in fact, their twenty fifteen track ancient Russian blues. She. The city. Gut with Scotland. Still his skin. At. Sleep. Aquarium was formed by a legend in Russia Boris Benchicao. Who remains the only original member in the band today? They started in nineteen seventy two in Saint Petersburg at the time. It was called Leningrad. There was the KGB. And if they found out there was unsanctioned rock concerts prevention and mates would have been in big trouble. So they played their infrequent, concerts and secret and underground taking a page. I guess from the KGB's, isn't that ironic? Phil. Leaving you with the ancient Russian blues today, we come to you from the Nanan Bill Harris studios at W H here in Boston. I'm Marco werman. We'll see a back here tomorrow. Necessarily chips the cry for mowing the skin. At our public radio international.