Gadget Lab: How to Get a PlayStation 5

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Millions of moving pieces connecting and protecting our world as one is impossible until it's not from command centers to thomas aircrafts northrop. Grumman is uniting all systems to act as one see how we're connecting the joint forces at njit dot com slash as one lauren. Mike lauren if you tried to get well you know. Have you tried to get one of those. Oh one of those. Well i would accept that i'm hearing it's limited to certain groups right now and it's it's just really hard to go online and figure out how to get one. Yeah i know. I can't believe we waited this long. And now there are supply and demand issues. I know all right well. Let's get into this week. Show where we're going to talk about the playstation five. Hi everyone. welcome to gadget lab. I am michael calorie senior editor at wired. And i'm laurin good senior writer at wired. We have full house here today. I let's welcome. Wired's service editor alan henry. Allan hi hello. Welcome back to the show We have you on. Sony's new game console is a big deal and you know a lot about it. Even though it's only been out for a few months it's still nearly impossible to get. He s five in a moment. We're going to bring in some of our own colleagues who've been trying to get their hands on one with mixed results. But i alan if you would please tell us what is new about this console and what makes it. Such a hot commodity. Well it's a really great new console in the first station for like what seven years i mean. Four k gaming is a thing. The controller is awesome has plenty of new titles. I mean not as many as arguably it should've launched with but there are some great new games for it and in general people just wanted a new playstation. There's a lot of hype and build up prior to its launch. That may people really really line up and be like a preorder that thing but as far as why. It's such a hot commodity. It's kind of counterintuitive right. The real reason it's a hot commodity is because it's so difficult to get and the people who do seem to have them are scalpers and people who are selling them for above retail price. So they're all these convoluted systems and tools and things you can do to try and score one or you can head over to craigslist and spend a whole bunch of money to a shady guy who has like twenty in the back of a van scarcity is real but it's also the scarcity that's that's pushing demand exactly Interesting so allen. Do you know anyone who's been able to get a ps five. Yes i do know a few people who've been able to get a ps five an emphasis on the few and that is also not including me and not because of trying honestly said to myself. I'm not a jump on a console at launch kind of person. I'm very much a hey the. Ps fives about to come out. Now's a good time for me to buy a ps four. That's how i shot. So i haven't been part of the rat race but i have been watching it from afar so speaking of the rat race our very own. Geoffrey van camp who edits wired reviews. Section is one of those people who've been trying to get a ps five. Geoffrey you there. Hello hijacked jeff good of ear. Please tell us. When did you first start trying to buy one of these things. And how did it go. I don't know there's a good time to really start trying to buy one of these eh. i. I didn't want one. This kind of goes back. What allen was saying. You know there aren't a lot of exclusive games has a controller. I have a four k. Tv but i can also do most everything on it that i can on my. Ps four but Some friends and family slowly started getting them. The preorders seemed to sell out really quick Kind began to get the fomo. So this jeff. Somewhere on black. Friday i think i started which is probably the worst time to start trying to get a playstation or really anything so yeah i tried The first place i tried was best. Buy and of course being in the pandemic normal. You might think about going to a store but everything is online This year so Yeah i tried that and it was one of the worst probably paying experiences. I've ever had the site completely froze. They kind of make you wait. You don't know if you should be refreshing your browser or just waiting for it to pop up there like playstations will drop in in a minute here. There's some dots near where the add to cart button is And then it just kind of stays gray and you're waiting for it to turn yellow and then eventually it does and it says oh. Sorry you're already sold out. Did you start seeing other stores. Yes so i tried I tried that. I got the app. Did a few more drops then. I began learning more Started going at game. Stop walmart Sony does these online cues. So i tried there The more i tried them. I failed quicker. It seemed and Just kind of wanted more. This is planned but I kind of figured you know still. It was all due to christmas. But january is rolled around and it's was still insanely difficult to get Even after kind of the holiday. Buzz were off by middle of january. I have multiple twitter. Alerts going. I've got chrome extensions digging like during meetings like we could be filming this. Might it might go off saying there's a drop coming and ten minutes Yeah it's kinda getting a failing to get a playstation five is kind of a regular part of my workweek though. So what you're saying is that you started getting dings and alerts on your phone and you look at it. Really excited and say oh. It's just a vaccine appointment. It's not that he s five. Yeah right right. Not what i want all right. Well that all sounds like a nightmare for you jeff. And as we know you're not alone. You're not even alone on our staff because wired zone games editor. Sarah mueller has also been trying to procure a ps five. Welcome to the show. Sira high happy to be here. Thank you for being on the show. Walk us through this. Why is it so hard to get a. Ps five right now and tell us about what your experience has been. Yeah it's really hot. I think for a few reasons and playstation hasn't really exactly said why so there. There are a lot of theories running rampant on the internet as you can imagine as is kind of typical A lot of people are saying. It's because sony is publicly doing this right like they are selling every single playstation that goes out to market and that's great for them There's a lot of buzz about the playstation right now which is also good for them. I think part of it could be pandemic related right like there is very much a shortage on a lot of things to do with tech right now if you think about graphics cards. Pc's so it could be related to that could be just a distribution issue right like some of these pods are getting made in parts of the world war factories. Shut down right now. Maybe they can't make as many as they would have otherwise So there's not one good answer for that question. Unfortunately and so he's not speaking to it and probably smartly so on their part because they getting everything that they want out of this. I would say so. What has your personal experience. I can trying to get one of these. Yeah so my personal experience actually started with. Jvc here Seeing jv struggle a getting a ps five was kind of what got me to stop trying to get my own pius listeners. That is jeff van kamp who you heard from just a moment ago. I think it was also a little bit of the social media hype right like so around. Christmas would seal these people unboxing playstations and they were just so excited and it was like this huge thing and similar to allen. I wasn't planning on getting one straight away. You know. I was thinking maybe toward the end of the year when horizon forbidden west comes out. Maybe that's when i'll give it a go and i'll get one but yeah watching watching. Jbc struggle. i was like you know what i'm gonna try and do this to. Maybe i can get him one and then he doesn't have to keep trying so i didn't start early started. I think around mid january And i believe it was because jeff posted that you know there was a drop about to happen so it was like all right. Let's go in this. Let's do this. And i made it all the way to the court. I had it in my god. I was trying to pay and it failed because it was like. Oh this one store no longer has any try this other store and so i tried that store and it was like this. Dong has an try. This third store by the time. I tried the third store it was sold out so i most. I was so very close. I almost got one that. I try but just just missed out. We'll even say that there's there's there's stock in those stores but you click and it's just a false false alarm like to complain. Apparently complaining a little too loudly. Everybody everybody about my quest and it is a quest- there's very much a quest is just like. Is this the kind of thing where you have to wake up in the middle of the night and have your like your your cursor poised and ready to go on the inventory or like other. They're back channels of tips when the next stop is going to happen like how. How nutty is getting. Yes so i would say a lot of people did stay up overnight when i dropped to get in line to wait but that's no longer really a thing. Most of the drops tend to happen in the middle of the day actually There are definitely some secret back channels and things we can get into that a little bit more more later. If you'd like. But i do have some tips and some ah insights into two secret ways people getting these playstations and one of the big problems. I'll tease out. Now is there are a lot of scalpers and butts and they just scooping them all up and then reselling them at a much higher value now sarah. Did you consider temporarily going back to australia ahead of the curve from a time zone perspective and getting when wow way yeah i mean with covid. Unfortunately it is very hard to travel back to australia right now. As many people probably know australia new zealand did covid very well. And i'm not even worried about my parents. No one was mosques restaurants. Basel been because they're only letting in australian citizens or permanent residents and limiting limiting the amount of people. That can come in every week. I had actually looked at going back to australia for the holidays. Because it's somewhere over there in seattle. It's raining and cold. It would've cost me ten thousand dollars back at ps five exactly. So i don't know. I might as well just buy a bunch of scalloped ones for that amount and then resell them at ohio value. So all right well. Let's take a quick break when we come back. We're going to get to some of those tips that we've been talking about support for this. Podcast comes from goldman sachs what goldman sachs experts and leading thinkers have to say about trends shaping markets industries and the global economy. Stay informed with the latest insights from goldman sachs on the economic and market implications of covid nineteen available on our podcast at yes dot com slash cove nineteen or any of your favorite podcast platforms. Okay so scoring. New console is incredibly difficult but some people are actually getting them. Maybe they're just lucky. Maybe they know somebody. Maybe they know something that we don't but there have to be ways to tip the odds in one's favor so alan we'd like to go back to you first. Please share with us all of your gold tips on how to score. Ps five well. Considering i don't have one by golden tips might be a little bronze. But i'll try anyway. I mean honestly. My suggestion is to have an inside source like not somebody inside like at sony. Obviously but like a friend who works at walmart or has a friend who works at game. Stop or something like that. They will obviously be the first people to know when there's going to be dropping. Exactly how many are going to be available at x. Store or why location. And maybe if you're really lucky and have a little extra cash you can convince them to put one aside for you or let you know when they're going to be available so you can actually get one. Ideally make a network of friends who are all looking for playstations like like cyrus Jeff here like i guarantee you that. Unbeknownst to the rest of us they probably have some kind of suicide pact in which one of them will buy a well to police station. Fives and if the other one didn't get in on it then they'll just sell the spare to their friend and try and find people that you can do that with. That's my best best best advice especially if like these drops are happening at like three. Pm eastern or nine am eastern and you have to work like a normal human. Then you know they might have time to sit and refresh something while you don't. That's all i got though sira. I'm sure you have tips though. What are your tips. Yeah so so. This is actually quite funny. 'cause i remember there was another drop at the start of february and i tried really hard to get one. I think i made it all the way through to the cot again. But i didn't manage just on so i tweeted out. This meme about like you know the walmart's site showing the a bunch of playstations will become available at x. Time in its that me. Move that guy staring at the computer screen like avidly just waiting right and one of my friends one of my former co op is. I'm not gonna mention who and you'll see why in a second but he. He slid into those defense and he was like bra. You should've told me you will looking for a playstation five. And then he sent me a screenshot of an order that he had where there were like three playstations. He'd grabbed and i was like. Oh my gosh what is this also like. Did you not buy this for yourself and your friends. He's like no. I've been purchasing like a bunch of them. I purchased like twenty in the past couple of months to flip. Darned hate me. And i was just like mind blown like i can't get one. Jbc caveat one. Everyone's struggling how have you managed to get twenty playstations in the last few months listener him so upset right. he's telling them at a mark it was he was selling them at a mockup markup. Ask him so you want to know the same way i can seconding allen said okay please continue. Yes so he is like well. Let me tell you my secrets. Little pod one. And i was like all right hit me. I wanna hear how you doing this. And he was like they're discord service secret. Discord service of insight is who let you know when a drop is about to happen and sometimes they give you these secret links that will put the item directly into your cot. So you don't even have to sit in the line and then you can just check out immediately so he then sent me these two links one for the disc version one for the digital edition and was like give this ago. There's going to be another dropping like five minutes. So i gave it a goal like you said went straight into my caught. Unfortunately i was like a little bit late to it. Because i wasn't checking my messages because it was the middle of the workday. Spike was walking by the time i went to do it. It was it was sold out. But i can confirm that. It does work. And as he said he's had twenty so. Wow secrets secrets secrets. Yeah is the quibbling actually just tipping people off to the timing or is it. Is it a sort of coded in such a way that it gives you the advantage because of your skipping this step of putting it in your car yeah. So it's it's a link directly to whichever side it is and it is just a way to completely skip and have it automatically in your car. Got it okay. Yeah jeff did you come across any tips that you felt were worthy enough to be able to pass onto our listeners. I didn't have one of those links. But i would say if you're going to try the old fashioned way or the honest way. I guess my tips would be and again. I've failed to get one for months so these aren't really too much but Signing up for chrome extension alerts. I got a thing called shop which let me Get dings from Best buy walmart scheme. Stop whenever they're about to drop playstations warriors sixty four some different. Ps five stock alerts on twitter. You can set those two auto send you notifications Usually these happen somewhere between wednesday and friday each week middle of the day to three pm. Not not that i would know. I'm very busy working. But i would say the best tip i i would have would be apparently to complain. A lot are show your frustration to your friends Because i just noticed the other day My wife was even I gotta ding for a ps five. Drop and i heard from across the room where my wife was working and she felt so bad for me. She was trying to get a playstation as well Had some friends apparently trying as well so just use your network whatever network you happen to have a really heart warming love story jeff. In the time of corona. It was very very sweet. I've i i hate bothering you. Know it's already interrupting. Maybe my day. A little bit Opening tab and clicking refresh a couple times at two pm or whenever it is but it was very nice of her to do that. And just to be clear when we say we're using our networks we as journalists are not using our networks within the tech industry to get these consoles. Jeff and sarah are both talking about their friends networks and people who are just generally hovering on the internet and hanging on the internet or able to like you know set up alerts for buying things and that kind of thing. Exactly what you're saying is i should not. Dm the pr lead at sony and asking that is correct. Although i mean we do sometimes take loners but then we return them. You know at this point allen. I would say that probably the best thing to do is delete that. Dm that you sent a few weeks. i'm going to go. We should note that. We have a story on wired that offers tips about how to snag a playstation five. It's called how to snag a playstation five. Good luck and you can read about it on wired and we'll put a link to that story in the show notes for this episode. Okay so what was. Actually the result of all of your efforts. Did anyone here on the pod end up with. I'll start because i already alluded to the answer. I do not have playstation five. I haven't even really been trying. Because i feel like it's hopeless so i wrote about you. Did you get one. Yeah so this same friend. I was talking about actually got a disk. Addition which is the addition that i want and it is arriving in a few weeks so he is shipping it to me and selling it to me at cost. He is not upcharging before it. So thank you to said friend who. I will not name for a very obvious reason. Obvious reasons and what about you. Jeff actually happy to report a friend who i believe would through standard channels in another state managed to get one just a couple of days ago At the same time. I failed to get one and so i should be getting one this weekend Which is which is exciting. I don't know if i even wanted anymore. It was more fun when i was searching. I feel you actually. I feel like it was more fun to be part of the game. This became the ira game of twenty twenty one and now that i've liked got it locked in almost like a little bit. I know disappointed. I don't know if that's the right word. They're strong replay value on this game. Absolutely not the good news is it should last for seven years. I feel like if you're one of those people who gamed the system a managed to get a ps five or multiple. Ps fives as is the case with cyrus friend that you should now be obligated to like. Put the same effort into getting your elderly or vulnerable neighbor. A vaccine shot just have to like focus. You know you're like okay. I have the twenty five stacked up here. That i'm selling it at a at a markup i need to now put some good into the world. I honestly thought you were about to say you should put that effort into getting your elderly neighbors. A ps five. And i would say that the vaccine is slightly more important than the ps. I would say your skills. The skills i've learned in trying to get a ps five and most failing myself but they getting vaccine at least here in. Oklahoma has been a remarkably similar process. At least in the early stages go to a site. Wait for a drop. Try to schedule an appointment. It's all the same these days but the question is are there alerts the you can set up to be notified when a vaccine drop is about to happen and the answer to this is no. Who's gramma has set up the that's gotta get in those vaccine discords. Yes all right. Well thank you all three of you for joining us this week. let's take a quick break and when we come back we'll do our recommendations all right so now is the portion of the show where we each Tell our listeners. About a thing that we like that we think that they would like to sira. Let's start with you. What is your recommendation. Okay so my recommendation. This week is a little bit off the wall. I tried something yesterday for the first time that i've never done before and to say it was an experience an understatement. Obviously given the lines right now. That's most important. But i did cryotherapy yesterday in which you stand in this. I don't know box tube thing this is one of the ones where your head is outside of said box tube thing but it sprays you with hydrogen. I'd i actually remember the specifics of how this works. But it basically cools down your body temperature like ridiculously like it can get down to minus one hundred fifty degrees. I believe when i was reading the thing. But you're in. This is three minutes and it's supposed to have all these various health health benefits but even just as an experience it was. It was very interesting. And i would recommend it just purely for the experience. How did it make you feel cold. Very very cold but like lizard invigorating. Yeah so it was actually funny. So i get like restless leg syndrome sometimes and i haven't had it for a really long time but about half an hour. After this i was sitting on the couch watching the great british bake off actually and my legs started to feel really like tinguely like they would clearly like getting worked up all like working through something and it was just interesting to see like the effects that it kept having down the road but coming straight out of it you feel super tinguely. A little bit numb. It's really putting on your clothes because you can't feel anything basically but yeah. I don't know what the long term benefits are. I'm gonna give it a go again but it was definitely definitely something be as cold is is the short answer to that question. And i'm glad that you had a positive experience. So far i will say that one of my favourite outside magazine profiles in recent years was a profile of dave asprey. The person who created bulletproof coffee and the whole bulletproof brands and the writer went to go visit bulletproof. Labs which is basically this whole biohacking facility in santa monica and while the writer was there. You know there's a whole section of the lab sets crow cryotherapy spa area and And so you know the like. They're walking around the labs and the and aspreys talking about like how great this is like the writer. Is there when this like thirty something year old guy like emerges from the cryotherapy booth and just boom passes out and literally rights. I'm standing near bulletproof. Client a man in his late. Thirties passes out during a session. He tumbles out of the booth. Torso frosted face. Ashen is rolling up into it. Said this is not funny. Ultimately the person was okay from a writing perspective. It's like just imagine being that writer there at that moment when that happens and like i like to imagine like the public relations team behind the scenes just like losing their minds but I it's like it's totally interesting stuff and once again going to come back to. Sarah glad you're okay did not tumble out of the cryotherapy booth. Having passed out from the experience. Thank you yes no thankfully that did not happen to me. I actually i did at the lowest setting to start off with since it was my first time and not to brag or anything but she said i did really well and that maybe i should go up another level next time. So maybe i think is crossed. It won't happen but maybe that will happen to me next time and not not level up the chill alan. What is your recommendation. Well i swear. I didn't come up with this because we were talking about it. But my recommendation is discord. I've actually been having way more fun in discord joining various discords based on different interests. Recently than i could ever have hoped. I joined a discord a long time ago because it was just a cute little way to keep track of friends and chat with them from time to time For those people who aren't familiar with this cord but are for example. Maybe familiar with slack. it's slack for gamers but despite also comes with a bunch of additional features that are focused not on collaborating on work but instead having fun together so there are voice channels that you dip in and your mic is automatically on and you just chat with somebody. It's kind of like having an actual phone call without the anxiety and then you can host watch parties. You can share your screen. You can stream whatever video game you're playing or whatever you're doing on your computer to other people who can then jump in and keep a watch and hang out with you. I've seen people stream games. I've seen people stream art. I've seen people just stream like their writing process. It's a lot of fun. And there discords for lots of different interests. Entertainment properties whatever. You might be nice and is there a client. Oh yes yes. I mean You can use it on the web for sure but it is also available mac windows ios android free free super free although they will nag you to buy nitro which aw gives you some extra perks depending on the servers that you join But you know give it a try first before you decide. You want to spend one hundred dollars a year on the freemium stuff. Okay all right. Well thank you. Jeff what is your recommendation. Yeah thought i would have a you know. I was thinking of some fun tech. I can do but really the only thing i've wanted and desired the whole past week has been A snow shovel side decided that no matter where you live whether you're in california the desert texas anywhere. I'm in oklahoma. You need a snow shovel so we've gotten about Close to a foot of snow in the last few days or last week or so and All i've had a rake literally had to rake parts of my front porch and a portion of my driveway. is particularly futile. Way to to get rid of snow So they're all sold out here during this this snowstorm but with With the climate the way it is going. I recommend everybody get whatever the first snow shovel. Uc's make sure it has a good lip at the top. It's going to be the new game of twenty twenty one. Twenty twenty was get the toilet paper. Get the clorox now everything. Yeah get the masks now now. The snow shovels. Yeah we need the secret discord links to snow. Shovels would be great. Do you have those so. I don't unfortunately maybe. I need to do some searching on discord and find those. Find their service to join. I'll pass on the secret links to you. abc warren. what would you like to share with us. Well to jeff's note. I know that we've had a lot of fun talking about getting expensive gadgets. Like the ps five during the show but there is deadly frigid weather and the southern half of the united states this week and in particular it's hitting texas really hard and i mean people are freezing and it has led to people dying. The electricity is out. it's incredibly challenging so i'm going to link to a list from cbs. In the show notes of different ways that you can help. Texas residents right now whether that's donating to mutual funds or other national aid organizations Foodbanks different disaster released relief organizations even helping animals and need As well as journalists go checkout papers like the texas tribune which is a nonprofit newspaper I mean journalists are also working through really challenging conditions to tell of the stories of what's going on right now so We'll link to that in the show notes and Yeah is my recommendation for this week. Nice mike what's your recommendation. This week i'm going to recommend a television show. It's a show that we have been enjoying over the last couple of weeks. It's called hamilton's pharmacopoeia. it originally aired on vice of the first two seasons The third season is out now. just dropped You know earlier this year so you can find the first. Two seasons on hulu and the third season is available on amazon prime video. So it's a show about drugs Basically the host hamilton. Morris is a chemist that he's a working chemist who has been obsessed with psychoactive substances his whole career so he spends each episode diving into the history and the culture around a specific substance. He also tries to synthesize it so he gets together With people who make things like the mt l. s. t. Pcp ketamine You know you name it He's done a show on it and get together with somebody who makes it. Usually these people are working outside of the law and They talk about how hard it is synthesize it and they also talk about some of the effects. In some cases he actually ingest the drug on camera. it's a fun show. It's also very serious show. it's also very nerdy show Really surprised at how much you learn about like you know or ganic. Chemistry watching this show. Also much you learn about drug policy Around the world because he travels to different countries to talk about some of the substances. So i can highly recommend it highly recommend it hamilton's pharmacopoeia streaming near you excellent. Yeah all right well. That was a fun. Show thank you to sira to alan into jeff for joining us. Talking about your. Ps five experiences. Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me of course and thank you all for listening feedback for us. You can find all of us on twitter. just check the show notes. This show is produced by boone. Ashworth and we will be back next week goodbye. Millions of moving pieces connecting and protecting our world as one is impossible until it's not from command centers to autonomous aircrafts. 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