Oil Industry Group Responds To Methane Limit Rollback
Support for this n._p._r. Podcast and the following message come from the u._p._s. Store offering services from shredding to printing to mail boxing and instead of closing this labor labor day weekend august thirtieth and thirty first the u._p._s. store is doing another ing altogether opening the ups store every aiming for small business and and of course shipping individual store hours may vary by location environmental groups are pushing back on president trump's rollback of regulations that are aimed at curbing methane leaks from oil and gas facilities now you would expect that from environmental groups but some major oil and gas companies are pushing back to the trump administration made this announcement about the rollback yesterday. Methane is a greenhouse gas. It's twenty five times more powerful than carbon dioxide although it does stay stay in the atmosphere for less time here to help us figure. Some of this out is eric melito. He's vice president of upstream industry operations for the american petroleum institute due to good morning sir good morning so a._p._i. Represents hundreds of oil and gas producers some big ones and some small ones. Your organization pressed the administration for this rollback back but some of the biggest oil and gas companies exxon shell. They want the regulations to stay in place what is going on here. Well that's correct but it's also important to understand what these regulations doing what they do not do first of all. It's a proposal so we're not sure what the final rule is. Gonna look like but more importantly this proposal. Jose does not impact the mission control requirements that e._p._a. Put in place back in two thousand twelve to two thousand sixteen so we work closely with e._p._a. To put in good regulations back in two thousand twelve in two thousand sixteen that address emissions of methane what this proposal does it raises the question of the legal authority as to whether or not e._p._a. Can actually regulate methane as a pollutant so it's really a question of statutory construct and whether or not they're following the letter of the law pollutant. What's the question <hes> it's not a hazardous air pollutant. It's a greenhouse gas so the cleaning climate change yeah they have to determine whether or not under this section they have not made an endangerment finding when when they did this in two thousand sixteen when they added this as a pollutant and they're bound to do that by the law right and so right now i'm gonna go out to the public and take comment and determine whether or not they've met that threshold question n._p._r. Talked to former shell oil president john hofmeister mr yesterday. I won't play you something. He said in the future the ability to operate in the fossil fuel industry is going to demand an environmental performance where the public believes that you are protecting the land the water and the air so regulations that protect the water the land and in the air which enable the industry to continue to do what it does are essential for the industry to be successful down the road. If former president of shell oil is he's talking about reputation right regulations convince regular people that there's no funding funny business going on. What do you think about that point that he's making regulations are important in because they make us believe that the things are being done right what we fully agree with that and we support these regulatory requirements they have in place right now and the industry's performance performance over the past ten to twenty years in reducing methane emissions has been a really a success story because we've come up with technologies to get out there and and look at the leaks and reduce them. We've come up with ways to capture emissions during operations and all these technologies and all these innovations have now become part of the regulations and they're part of the regulations that we support and wanna see kept in place. These questions now are really about. What does the future hold. Its methane something that e._p._a. Has the authority to get out there and regulate in this way a and what does that mean for older wells the smaller wells owned by smaller companies if nothing was going wrong if companies were making moves to to limit delete themselves. Why did the obama administration determined that we needed these regulations in the first half of the question as to whether or not regulating new sources as they come come online and phase out the old wells is enough or whether or not you should consider going after the old wells for the ones that are marginal wells not producing very much and and it could impact really small businesses like farmers and ranchers who have them on their properties and kinda even elderly people retirees have these wells and and they rely on them for their for for their income on a monthly basis these types of rules could impact those types of people disproportionately because they could shut those wells in and really take away that income that they rely on okay so it's about small producers here just quickly in the seconds we have left if methane emissions from the ill and guests industry began rising again. You've said they're falling. <hes> will the a._p._i. Then support the federal regulations on methane well i stayed at we support the rags that they haven't placed their effective that they utilize the technology that we've come up with and i'm fully confident. The emissions are going to continue to go down. There's been recent research by no in the federal government that shows that the methane and we're seeing it wasn't going up <hes> it it's coming from other sources and it's not coming from the oil and gas industry so we have a good story and we're gonna keep innovating and advancing technology eric melito of the american petroleum institute thanks.