Andrew Eddie part 1 | #032
I reached a point where I was I was done. I didn't WANNA farm. I thought farming was probably one of the worst things I could do. This is the real food real people podcast. Deciding to grow food to become a farmer is a huge decision for most people that do it and this week's guest. definitely That's part of his story where he didn't want to be a farmer, even though he grew up around it and we hear the so many times people who grow up around farming and decide they are done within usually when they're ready to go to college or something like that and so many people then come back to it later and see it with different eyes. That's the story of this week's guest. He grows food, but not food that people eat. We're going to jump into his world, which is hey, he grows hay to feed animals, and his hey shipped all over the world, but it's grown here in Washington state in Moses Lake Andrew Eddie is his name with aren't h farms. We have great chat out in a field. We actually have a full video available. If you WANNA, follow US subscribe on Youtube a real food. Real people just search us up on Youtube and you can see the full video because you know we have. Planes flying over people driving by wind blowing over our microphones, because the whole interview was done on a pickup tailgate in a Hayfield literally, so you couldn't see that there if you want to. Hear that as you listen to our conversation as some interruptions come from time to time. Please enjoy I'm dillon coupe. This is the real food. Real people podcast documenting my journeys across Washington state to hear from and really get to know the people behind our food here in Washington. I've never done. An interview in field before. What is? What's this field? That were in here well. We're in the corner ALFALFA fields. Here in Beautiful Moses Lake Washington, It's nice and sunny out today me and my little bit of clouds it's it's a little dark right now, but About the first sunny day we've Haddon. Five six days. You guys have kind of been battling the weather. Yeah Yeah. Mother Nature is definitely decided that she isn't too happy. I don't know. She just got cooped up with corona for too long. Or what the deal is, but she decided she was going to make it known that she she still around She hasn't left, so you know we're. We're rolling with the punches and we'll see what happens, so you guys grow? Hey, is that pretty much? You're just a hey operation. Yeah, we We're just afforded operation so minus minus one hundred acres of corn. Actually okay, we just planted this year we're just using it kind of as a rotational crop just kind of give her soil a little break on alfalfa grass so we, we Yeah, we got about you know minus two trucks driving by We just wave. we got probably about thirteen hundred acres of total crop and that's all forages so Technically we are not technically we try to. Of course. Get the highest quality we can out of our crop, and most of it. We shoot for kind of export quality, so we try for you know. Try to make the best that we can. With what we got, and where we're GONNA set up so Yeah, that's kind of where where that's at. So what does what does export-quality mean? Export quality is just I mean kind of the. I it it all varies I. mean exporters take a wide variety of stuff you know there's a need for supreme premium feeder dairy It kinda depends on. What they're kind of looking for so it's kind of broad, but we just try of course for the highest quality Most. Everybody tries for highest quality but like we were talking about earlier is about ninety five percent of our product goes for export compared to some guys that just shoe for the domestic market, and like local retail sales or anything like that our biggest thing is we take it. We sell to export, and they ship it overseas to wherever their customers are what they need. So what happens to that? Hey, then after so after we we put in the stack or put it into a bail. Put in the stack they will come and buy it holly into their pressing facility There's a bunch of pressing facilities located in Ellensburg which is about an hour and change away from here, or there are some local oppressors here or tri cities just kind of all around the state, so they'll take it. They'll press down to whatever package the customer wants. And then they'll put it in a shipping container and ship it where it needs to go, so whether that's Japan. Saudi Arabia UAE China I. Mean Pretty much all over the world. So pressing it, that's like you take. Think people are familiar with like a hail Yep. And there's small bales I. think that's what most people would be familiar with which are like yeah. Yeah. And then there's a little bit bigger ones in that. There's also big meals like actually you're on the right right behind the camera, so people can't see that. So which ones are you actually sent and they they take bales, and just like squish him down that much farther. Yeah, there's a there's actually a bunch of different Different packages that they can do. solitaire a by four foot by eight foot, long bail, and compressive down. They can do half cut asleep ballet they can do. a double compressed single compressed. There's a ton of different package. You know that they can do to get it down to for the most part, most of go about to package about gay big which is like a I think a fifty k. g. package and they'll stack them all shipping containers, and then that's. That's how they get over there so Yeah, what are all these planes flying around here? Yeah, we're We're pretty close to. The airport and the military enjoys flying over interrupting a super important interviews. Yeah so they here when a podcast is happened, that's right. Yeah, yeah, the here when you're trying to sleep the here when you know important, stuff's happening. Yeah, skip quick, scramble some cargo plane. That's right erupt. Yeah, yeah, no so. All kidding aside now they They fly around all day every day, so we actually get to see some pretty cool stuff. Yeah! Fighter jets flew over earlier today and Nothing says America more like some fighter jets flying over But yeah, no. It kind of is all dependent on what the overseas customer wants for a package and. It all depends on what they're using it for two so those bales that you're squeezing Dan. How much do they weigh? initially yeah, when so when we get them in in our bales can be anywhere from our barley, a little over thousand pounds to thirteen hundred pounds fourteen pounds all over a half ton yet, Hey! And then they squeeze that down into like what's the smallest that they can squeeze that down oh? Man, you're asking me a bunch of tough questions. I probably should ask if. If any. If any of our buyers washes, I'm sorry. I Apologize. I've been doing this long enough I. Probably should know but Today is one of those days. I think the smallest package is probably a fifty kilogram. Okay I think okay, so they actually like break up into smaller. What they'll actually do is, they'll take the bail. They'll cut all the strings off of it. They'll put it into their thing, and they'll slice it, and then they'll take him put it in the press in hydraulic rams taken push it altogether pops out, and it's magical. It's magic. Nobody knows how it works. And then they feed it to their animals wherever they are. Yeah. Yeah, and then they'll taking you know like I? Said, put it in a shipping container, and that's kind of kind of what they do. So, what's the key to making really good animal feed? Hey. Mother Nature Cooperating. The best way possible it. All kind of depends I, mean you know. Yeah whether weather's a big thing. Nutrition is a big thing. just paying attention to what you got gopher crops. Paying attention to. Water and Fertilizer Nutrient plans things like that and just management. It's pretty much the biggest thing and then hopefully Mother Nature Plays Nice with you so a lot of your nutrients for your. Hey, actually comes from a newer. they can. It all depends, so it all depends on the growers program to There's I mean there's something to be said about about manure especially for Alfalfa things like that. Dry Fertilizer liquid fertilizers. Kinda Kinda the general general thing so but that's that's kind of where where that comes from so. So or liquid manure? Some people do that, too. Yeah it all. It all depends on grower preference Sarah Everything Kinda everyone kind of has what works for them, so the manure that you would fertilize the crops with comes from where. it depends on kind of where you get it from I. Mean there's a bunch of dairies up here. You know if you want liquid manure, there's also a bunch of feedlots, so we can get screened. Stare Manure for pretty readily available. You know so it all again in all kinds of pens on who and what and why and what the prices? And then you're Gatien to. You've got to like water. All these you know may have health, Alpha and grasses that you grow. Yeah, so luckily for us. We're we're on the Columbia Basin your project, so we have surface water available, so we can go up and fire switch. Get the pivot going and we're good to go. You know we do have some wheel lines. We've got some headlines, but nothing nothing too major so It's pretty pretty nice to be able to flip it on and just kind of consistent water. All the way crossed so. Let's a lot better than hand lines, which yeah for people who aren't familiar with that and I learned that at a young age, the joy of changing hand line, which is the actual pipes, and you pick them up one twenty or thirty foot pipe at a time. Move it over however many feet. You're going thirty feet. Whatever the next section of the main line is the riser? If that make sense to anybody I. Don't know, but it has a lot of work. I'm surprised you. You guys still. What is that just? If you have like a corner of field or we, we actually just have one one field that is. Like two corners that we water with headlines, and then we have I think we have two or three sets a wheel lines, which is the same concept except luckily as motor on it, so you can roll it Yep Roland Park hit. But pivots I mean because the other thing about pivots is they're? They're efficient, so you know they're fishing on water. They're efficient on water pattern. And they cover ground. You know one thing about pivots. One downfall is. There's a little more to fix so so pivots are these things that if you're flying over farm country, you see the circles and that's where we'll talk about farming a circle. And then the allegation. The water comes up in the middle of the circle. And then there's the big framework that goes out with all the sprinklers on it and it just Kinda goes around. YEP, MIT! How long does it take for one of those two to go around a circle? It all depends I mean. If it were to go full full hog on one hundred thirty eight I. mean it all depends on machine to. Say just standard pivot. Could take seven hours six hours go one hundred thirty acres all the way, round complete revolution, but it all depends on. There's different now. There's different gearboxes to so different gearboxes different senator drives that you could actually make There's one company that actually makes senator drives in gearboxes that actually doubles the speed. It's constantly moving, and so it can actually cover would normally take like seven hours and cover it in like four, so they don't normally. Normally constantly move like they move a little bit. Czar Ankle, and then move a little bit more and kind of keep going around the circle. They still move, but it's kind of all in succession, so the tower is the lead tower kind of takes off and second one follows, and then it will stop for a little bit. Let it all catch back up in kind of stay in a line the okay, the pieces move separately, yeah! Yeah, yeah out on out on the end so technically your last hour moves further than your. You know first hour because that one. Point when you're driving by you, see way more water coming out of the outside yet, oftentimes than the inside ones. Yeah, and it also has more ground to cover, too, so the inside. Ones have less so the nozzles are smaller because they don't need much water down, so You're outside. Ones are going to be a whole lot. You know. Put a whole lot more waterdown. Span? This is all new to me. Because I grew up around farming, but it was in western Washington and we do that. They're right. I mean there are just a few pivots, or over on that side of the my Mother Nature Mother Nature cooperates with you guys via well. The and and the fields are way smaller. Right and so people will use online, or we align or big guns or drip, irrigation, or yeah, just hope and pray for rain at the right time, and not a wrong time. So is that is that growing Hayes at the biggest challenge is just trying to get the the rain when you wanted and the dry hot weather, 'cause. That's what you need to like dry. The hey out after you cut it right. Yeah I, mean I I'd say that's probably about ninety. Ninety two percent of the challenge is just whether I mean it it. It can take a good crop and turn it into pretty bad. You know pretty quick So what is it? What is it due to it so? For Alfalfa, especially it it'll take, and if it if it rains on enough, it'll actually start washing nutrients out of it, so not only will start bleaching it and cause it to lose color, which is kind of a portion of how customers by it It will actually start washing the nutrients of the plant. So you're veal, go down! Your digestible nutrients will go down your all that kind of stuff that they that buyers or dairies and stuff WanNa see, is you know the most nutrient value most nutrition for their animals to eat? Yeah, so it. It kind of just you know takes away on that on grass. Especially on Timothy so timothy is very It's bought on color a little bit on feed value depending on where it goes and stuff like that, but it's it's primarily bought on color and look and things like that, so you get a little bit of rain, it and you know here we are you know your your turn into a product where it's automatically lower grade, you know and it can go from premium to number one number two quality. Quality and a matter of a couple of hours. Wow, so a little shot a rain, and what's the map end? What's the value difference like percentage wise? How much money can lose a couple hours? The wrong rain I I mean you could lose about probably about fifty percent. So you know about half its value, you could just sit there and watch you know as off the windshield and yeah, it all depends. You know everything has a home, but everything has a home for a certain price too so. When I was a kid, both of my my GRANDPA's while grandparents, because they both ran the farms GRANDPA and grandma. Had, they had dairy farms and my one gram in particular. My Dad's dad was very much into feeding his cows Al, almost exclusively other than other nutrients, but he didn't do like silage or glare anything. He got eastern Washington Alfalfa from here, and he would come out and like look at the field, and he wanted to write no that he was getting the the best stuff for his cows and and. And this is where he would come. You talk about Timothy. Though like what are they feeding with? Timothy? That's not going to be like for dairy. Cows, right Yeah, it can be. It can be murder. Their TM are yeah. They yeah they'll take. Yeah, they'll take and put it in. Their mixed ration a lot of dairies and China I'll take it. Japan things like that But Timothy has a wide a wide use. I think of like feeding horses when I think Timothy Right yeah. Horses you know horses are kind of the biggest. Everybody's like. Oh, they feed it to race horses. That's correct. They also feed it to camels guinea pigs. Gerbils anything like that any. Any kind of animal they'll del eat it i. mean it's it's pretty good so Yeah, that's kind of. It's. It all depends like I, said it all depends on what customers taken it and You know how they WANNA use it. Things like that, so have you gotten the chance to visit any these customers out around the globe? Now No. The hey goes to that will be. I think that would be really fascinating so kind of segue going into that so currently Were were part of the Washington State Higer Association. as you might be able to tell. Shameless plug. It's fun so I'm current Vite, vice president, and then our current president actually went overseas here last year. visited a bunch of the dairies and stuff, and and things like that so at some point that will probably be on the docket. Maybe once all this you know maybe maybe twenty, twenty, one, twenty, two, twenty, five i. who knows when this close it, you'll Sunday. You'll get to go there but yeah, no and You know we've we've been doing this. We've been doing this awhile, so we've kind of You know we've met. Met, some of the customers when they come here and they'll say. Oh, yeah, you know we. We like your product or we like this we can we can. We see that you know So? That makes us feel good because we're like okay, we have. We have repeat customers, not just people buying directly from us, but people that are buying you know through US tag rally so I always thought it was impressive that my grandma would come all the way. Dairy farmer from western Washington would come all the way over to eastern Washington to check out his hey. Little bit more impressive. Come all the way from China. Right to check out your but I guess that's how important it is to them to get good quality. It's worth the trip. Yeah, yeah, no and they take in you know they trust their. They trust the buyers. Trust the exporters on what product they're getting them but they also like to comply is on it because. You know things kind of excuse me. Things Change Change, when you actually put is on it, you can send pictures. You can make it, you know. Look Pretty but at the end of the day. If you put is on, and you're like oh I, don't really like this part of the bail or I don't really like a head size or i. don't like There's not enough leaf. There's too much stam-, their super, thin or brittle. They're I mean there's a million things that you know they can part and be like well. You know we want it for this price or all. This looks really good. We want it for a little higher so. Actually. Say That No. We hold that. Thought. You're probably going to come in and say hey, this is awesome. Hey, here's the PRIOETTA NSA. Yeah, will you take twenty five percent less than that and you'll be like How how much negotiating goes on with this kind of stuff? Oh, I mean the exporters sit there constantly negotiate about it they'll offer it out and they'll see what they say, and they'll do probably three or four counteroffers, and see what happens, I? Mean it all depends. We just We just sold some today that you know. They offered out couple of times and. And three or four or five negotiations. You know middle of the night. 'cause time difference, A- yeah true. They're like. Hey, here's here's what we got like. This is a product. Here's where we need to be at. Here's where my grower needs to be at. Here's where I need to be at to make some money. Here's where you here's where you got to be. You know and see if it kind of fits in where they're where they're thinking. So, how many acres are you guys growing? Hey, on we have thirteen hundred acres, and then we do another probably thirteen hundred acres worth of customer so total total for last year we covered probably eighty five hundred acres well interior year after all four cuttings ALFALFA. So custom work meaning one. We just we go, and we work with another custom guy will actually go cut, and then he'll, he'll rake in Bela. 'cause the the farm that you know farm the has the ground doesn't have the equipment to do it I see so they contract hired out, and you know we go new that I that's like half of the acres. You covers custom work, yeah! Yeah well. Yeah, pretty much it kind of varies a little bit depending on what their rotations at, but for the most part. That's kind of kind of where round so yeah, it's it keeps US busy. The machines not rolling. Stop paying for itself, so it's true you know you know. Employees aren't cheap labor cheap. You'll not cheap equipment definitely isn't cheap so You gotTA supplemental. but it also keeps you know keeps definitely keeps us busy, so. How did you guys get into this? Farming is all. Or Hey farming specifically so we're not always do hey, farming or what? What's the family background so family background? Technically I'm. I say I'm second generation. Hey, farmer! My GRANDPA. He had the ground he used to work kind of offer I mean he did anything and everything he was a fireman. He was a lumber. Jackie was a quality control specialist somewhere I mean he's done. A multitude of things end up with farm ground, so he kind of formed a little bit, but my dad pretty much. pretty much started the place but he used to work for a another. Hey, grower here in the local area and he worked for him for twenty five years and then things just weren't working out, so he decided I. I'm GonNa try to do this on my own so. like I, said my my Granddad, some ground And my dad said Hey I. WanNa, I WANNA start farming? So they started with about two hundred acres pretty much right kind of where we're sitting out right now, and since then and that was probably. Twelve years ago eleven years ago, and since then we've grown from two hundred acres to thirteen, fourteen, hundred well with. Five five or six employees probably total by the time you get, you know through everything so Yeah I was is pretty much. My Dad he's he's been around. Hey, for a long time. so I mean even around. Hey, for do some Quick Mental Math Abi thirty four years. He's been around, so so when did you? When did you start? Furman? Yeah, so you know born into it, so that's always that's always good you know they say the biggest challenges with family. Farming is putting up with your family. You Love Your family. You know you do, but it takes a special kind of nutcase to to WANNA. Willingly coming work to right You know you, you heads every once in a while. Ninety five percent of the time But You know you make it work so I. I was working here just summers and stuff like that doing. You know do a normal farm to ask things like that and then. I reached a point where I was. I was done I. Didn't farm I thought farming was probably. One of the worst things I do which is which is bad to say because it And the wind is blowing our microphone over here. We'll. We'll do that So. I was like no. I can't do this I. I can't work with family. I'm. Not GonNa Farm I. Don't like it. It's terrible. Blah Blah Blah you know this was when you were. How old is about eighteen? So you know it kind of it was it was a key time. Yeah, to be making some decisions, yes. I'm going to go. Do something else and you know. My parents were supportive and they're like okay. do what you want. so I applied to go to school at the University of Oregon and. And took about a month and a half to get back to me and I had a couple other offers. You know a couple of other places to do random things you know. I thought thought I was going to engineering, and that was going to do this and then realize that's a whole lot of math and a whole lot of thinking. My brand couldn't handle. For Yeah Oh be the first to admit. Yeah so I'm just like now. You know. Let's not do that. So I waited and waited got into the Oregon didn't want to. Wind down there had two years left I already got. My associates degree from local community college. And I didn't know what I WANNA. Do I got down there? I ended up signing up for some journalism classes. And I was literally sitting in a I think it was like A. Two Oh one class, so you know I introductory class that was like media studies. And I'm sitting there and I'm going. Advertising things not too bad. It looks pretty good. You know Saws like you know I'm going for it so I ended up getting a degree in. Journalism communications the emphasis in advertising. And then it got down to try to find jobs. Pretty much everybody who went to school with God jobs at Nike. You know big old AD agencies. All this other stuff and I'm just like Erin in Oregon, too so yeah I'm like here I. Am like what what do I want to do? And I was like all right well. Go back to the farm. Shouldn't be too bad. I got back here and I'm like. Why did I leave really I? It was that. Apparent Yeah and don't get me wrong I enjoy the whole advertising world, I enjoy all that of stuff but. I think Fan Club, he has driven by multiple time. Yeah, they wants to watch the PODCAST. Bosses. Driving around wasn't doing that guy. Is The boss man. Your Dad didn't recognize them. Yeah, so no I left in. Taoist kind of that was kind of a and so I came back and I'm like this is what I wanNA. Do you know I enjoy growing crops and I? Enjoy doing this and I enjoyed you that so let's. Let's make it happen. You know ever since then been back So, what did you dad say? He's like I didn't say much. And he was happy to. Have you come during the operation? Yeah, he's happy the first couple of years. We're a little rough. You know getting back into you know. Hey, you know I went off and did this so I know. not really you know completely, but it was just kind of you know one of those deals. Where like Hey, I, you know. How `Bout we do it this way what we do it that way now we're at a decent spot where we're getting a whole long a whole lot better we make things work better because we do have different views on how to do things or we do have different thought processes when doing something so i. think that's one of the one of the biggest things but I'll tell anybody. that. If. You're wanting to farm especially with family. Anything go do something else comeback because you learn a lot more when you're gone then when you're there because I think. If you stick her in this kind of with any job Wise words of wisdom with Andrew Today but You know I think this is with any job is the fact that? You get in a comfort zone. You get a comfort zone your life. You get a covered with your job, so you're like. Oh, well not to change anything, and then you get out there and you. Experience different things experience different people, and how they do things to get a certain tests done and you're like. Hey I'm going to try that like Oh. Why don't why don't I think about that so I think? Getting somebody out of their comfort zones biggest thing for sure so I. Think Nelson, staring at me. I think that's the biggest thing is like You know is get out of Your Comfort Zone I. Think you learn more out of your comfort zone than you do in so that's Kinda Kinda the biggest thing. Anything specifically that you take away from your education that changes, maybe how you do your work now i. Mean People think well? It's a far cry from a communications degree, right? Now I think I you know I. Think it shifting to I. Think the the push now is especially. is being active on social media and things like that and show you know showing our story like we're not just some you know boy till you. Big All farmers like. We're. We're actually doing a job that like takes a whole lot more than okay. Let it grow. You know like even when I was explaining earlier, it's like Oh, we just pull water on. It plus fertilizer is done. It's a little more than that. It's not you can't. Somebody can do it, but it all depends on how and what and so No I think I think the biggest thing is Is Yeah, it's. Communication is of course, the backbone of pretty much anything I mean communications backbone of As a win picks up a little bit but you. You hate people. You Love Win. This what makes your Hei Awesome for sure? Yeah, No I think communication of course is kind of the backbone of relationships you know negotiations for buyers anything like that or even relationships with field. You know, feel the ground, mess or things like that. So it Kinda ate it all comes down to it, but you know the be. The biggest thing is especially with like social media's the fact that. we have the opportunity and platform to share story right so that's kind of the biggest thing for me. Is it's it's allowing us as a as an operation to kind of showcase. Hey, here's what we do. We're not saying it's perfect. We're not saying it's the best thing ever. We're not saying. We're absolutely right, but. Here's what we do. Here's why we do it. Here's our thought process. Maybe somebody else. Take it or maybe semi. It'd be like hey, why don't why don't you try this sir? Have you ever tried this? You know things like that like all have olive growers reach out You know it'd be like. Hey, what? What do you normally put down in your timothy? Or what are you trying to enough off of? That looks really good or things like that. You know it gives me a certain sense of pride, and it gives us while not so much. The social social media mogul over there that search twitter all day, but You know It gives it gives me a certain sense pride because it's like. Hey, you know. Here's what we're doing. Somebody's recognizing. Hey, like that's. That's pretty sweet. You know I, think you know we can do something so I think Yeah, it just gives it's a whole new avenue you know we can kind of a different way and say Oh, you know here's here's what we got. Here is showing you the inner workings of and Alfalfa operation or a forge operation so i? Think that's Kinda. Cool I mean I, it's. It's a challenge for sure here you know last week. It was raining that was it. It was raining. And you know that that takes a big old blow to our ego. Our know confidence because I. Mean we are losing money but in the scheme of things it's not as tough as some of these other growers that like potato contracts that are currently you know were cut the beginning of the year and things like that like they're the ones that are suffering super. You know a lot. Yeah, you know so that was that was kind of my point is like I. Know Show all the good stuff. But, we're also human. We make mistakes. So. Yeah, you had a good video post about that, asked graeme. Yeah, it was. It was one of those days where you just kind of had to let it out. You know what I mean like. You had to talk to somebody and if there's nobody talked to listen, you just talk to yourself right? Yeah, so I think that's the biggest thing like. You know yeah, it's tough, but will recover and you know there's there's some growers out there that it is a big hit. You know they can't. They can't absorb some of these things you know you start talking. Losing one hundred two hundred bucks a ton. You Know Val, probably about one hundred hundred bucks ton. That's that's a big deal. You know that's the end of the day. That's all. That's a lot of money that we're talking about you. Know and I even talked to. Some of you know some of some potato growers in the local area. And one of the guys go put four thousand dollars an acre into potato ground, and I have to plant sweet corn or beans or peas and I'm GonNa. Make a single penny back from what I already put into would he's not going to be able to make as much as they had already spent on. Yeah, and he goes as what I have to do. GonNa, make it work. I have no idea, but that's that's what it is. You know so you know we get. We get a little bit of rain yet it. It's a punch in the gut for sure but especially when some of the best looking stuff that we had that was ready to go right before it rained but yeah I. Think I think yeah. I thought your post was on point. Not just about farming, but about anybody on social media. That's kind of the phenomenon. Shows the best part of their life right, and so it makes everybody else feel like. Oh, my life socks right. But the reality is everybody has a lot of crappy stuff. Hundred percent I mean that's that's the thing is like. You know yeah, and I think that's one of the biggest one of the biggest. what what's the word I'm looking for? That's one of the biggest drawbacks of social media, but it's also one of the biggest points that we can start to. Address is the fact that it may look all purdy in pretty nice and everybody. You know the other side of the crassus greener on the other side of the fence. In you might want start digging a little deeper and I think that's my point is like we. We make mistakes. We're not perfect. You know we have. We have miss applications on you know chemical, or you know you know. Our crop doesn't grow or anything like that like it happens or Mother Nature. Kicks us in the button. Says You were feeling good. Yeah, here you are. Here's a little slice of humble pie right. So. I think social media is a double edged sword for sure, and I think the biggest challenge. Nobody wants to share the bad stuff nobody wants to says hey. I'm messed up like simple as that like they all well because they're worried, number one. They don't WanNa. Look dumb, right and number two. I mean if you're doing business. You're worried that your customers are going to be like. Oh, I don't know if I trust them anymore. Right but I mean and I and I think the biggest thing is is closing that gap between wear. Where customers and US are at and getting people kinda closer because the thing about it is like even even some overseas customers. They were like Oh, well. We've never actually seen alfalfa going to bail. How does that work yeah? Here's videos like. Technology and all that kind of stuff is great. You know you couldn't do that in the past I mean you could. And and as far as like admitting to things, not going perfectly with our generation. That's kind of what we're into like Ryan was. Don't trust somebody. Things are too perfect. Right because it's like that's gotta be fake. Yeah, or like Oh. That's not that's not actually actual reality like right. What is reality so reality is doing a podcast and having wind pickup that's right and jets fly over and people drive by and people. Call you on the phone and the best working on equipment and behind you. That's reality pickups dirty I mean a bunch of stuff, but you know and I think that's the biggest thing is like you know. I've I've had people say hey like? Thanks thanks for sharing the bat. You know the bad. And I go. It's not even close to being terrible like I can say here and complain all day about what goes wrong, but you look at other things in the world and you're like. Well that I you said it earlier now you're saying it again and that's something that farmers are really good at is, and it goes along with that farmer optimism. It's that while things could be worse. Yeah, hi, yeah, until I have to do that otherwise, you couldn't survive. Oh, yeah, we're. We're the biggest pessimists you've ever met in your life. Like no joke, we'll look at something we'll be like. Oh, man! That's probably the worst quality stuff I've ever put up put. An optimist because you're going to try for it what we'll be like how that's. That's terrible and something to come by and be like. That's probably the best stuff I've looked at so far and you're like all right cool. You know you can be an optimist here. You'll end up being fine, but the thing is like you reach a point where yet eight kicks in the shorts and you're like. I just WanNa go home and cry like you know I mean. It's it's fine if gonNA cry. But it's also like one of those deals where it's like. You know. What can we do about it? There's nothing we can do about Mother Nature. If it's something that we messed up, we can fix it. Mother Nature comes through. It's out of control I mean. You can sit there and say over many hail Marys you want. Matter. You know about what's going on. You know so and and the biggest thing. especially. This year is predictability on whether. They're passing many I mean you know it's been either ten percent chance and it rains. Yeah, or it's you know seventy percent chance sunny, yeah! It it all kind of bent. Such as the way of farming such as the way far, what's been the hardest time for you so far, Farman? What's the most challenging thing oh? Man Probably I mean one of the most challenging things of course trying to juggle home, life and farm life. Yeah, that's the biggest thing You know we've put in long hours. You know farmers put in long hours. Dairy guys put in long hours. Things like that. It's it's balancing. How much your work and how much your own so And also for for me, so my wife works at the at the hospital She's labor and delivery nurse, Cayenne Social Work Nights and I work days. Yeah, ever see each other. Never see each other and win. She's working I'm not working. You know she's not working. I'm working so it just. Kinda you know. We got two kids at home so. So that's kind of that's kind of the biggest thing you know I take him out and be like. Hey, we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA. Go check like we're GONNA go just drive around, you know. Get them out of house, but also like daddy daycare and a pickup I go work. Here's some fruit snacks. We'll turn on. You know frozen. We'll be fine, but. I've listened to my fair share of frozen truck here but it's. It's really sad when you're off topic a little bit when we're driving around, the kids aren't in the truck and the frozen still playing and you don't notice and you're like. I, really hope nobody pulls. Let's turn on some AC DC. A little awkward farmer Guy Shows Up, and you're listening to frozen, yeah. It was for my household. It would be bubble, guppies or patrol or something. Yeah, yeah, probably mine, too. Yeah, yeah, now, my my kid My kid definitely definitely enjoys yeah. Enjoys well I grew up on the seat of a tractor myself. My Dad was accustomed farmer when I was quite young. That was I'd ride along with dad until he was doing something. That was too rough. Tableau kid and you know like if he was ripping some rough ground or something with the tractors like mom's GonNa. Come pick you up. You GotTa Get out now right? I don't want you to whack your head on the steering wheel. Obviously older tractor less room, no actual buddy seat. It was just fold the armrest down. Yeah, and the old forty two forty. Out The fender, the fender trigger making sure you don't slip off on the tire. Yeah, been there been there many times with Yeah, with my dad. and I think that's the biggest thing is like you know. My wife and I talk a whole bunch. You know I. Try to go home as Readily I can I try to balance that life. It is absolutely probably one of the hardest things to do with you know Getting, getting our guys to do whatever and getting equipment fixed and things like that I mean that's. I I hate to say it's easy, but it's just kind of a thing we do now you know it, it's A. It's a processor so Yeah, I think the biggest thing is just finding that time. And Your busiest time is in the summertime when everybody else in the world size. That's when we should be going on vacation right right right? So that was my growing up to like I grew up on a red raspberry farm. Harvest raspberries in July you do not do anything else right well. Not You certainly don't even mention going on vacation. Last no, no, yeah, Even though you can get very. Between, cuttings yeah yeah we can get. Yeah, we can sneak away for a little while I'm on vacation next week, but that's that's beside the point You know we were planning on being done for full. disclaimer me, not really matters, but. but one of the I mean one of the biggest things. Is that You know everybody's like. Oh, well, you just take the weekend off, right? Sure I could right. But everything's still going to be growing like it. Don't matter like if the weather's right will were doing it like we're, we're going we're you know we're farming simple as that and I think. The best description and I think most people probably seen this floating around is like the Dad and the son. You know like Oh what you know. What is this? Oh, I don't know son, while at the same thing with farmers like Hey, dad. What's a weekend? I Dunno son. We're farmer like. He's just like I. that's probably the best description I'd have because that's the way it is. You know for the July what holidays right? What are weekends? You know people like you know did. Did you make it there? What Day is it? All Saturday? Oh well. Oh. Yes, yeah, and then you know out on social media the next right? Yeah, and then well, and then you get to the point where you're like. You know you're working for a couple of days straight. You know pretty much you leave your house. Go to work. We go back. To sleep a little bit and come back and you're like. Did I take a shower today like. What did I do today and they'll be like? Oh, it's Thursday and you're like. I was working, said Monday. Like what are you talking about like? You know so? It's just like the concept of time with farming is kind of one of the craziest things, too, because it's like. Okay like. What Day is it? What time is it? What's the? What are we? GonNa, do what's the longest day you've worked? Recently about two hours just kidding jokes. Oh shoot probably I. We've had like last year. We had a couple when like if the weather's right, actually probably twenty eighteen was probably. One of the longer ones we had some days. You know fourteen sixteen hours and then we'd get done belan probably. Probably get out there and start raking in about four four thirty in the morning. take a little break start bailing Donald about ten thirty eleven o'clock night and go back about two or three the next morning. You know do that for a couple of days and I mean. Not Too bad you know I. Don't Envy Envy. The people that do night shift and have to work twelve hours on twelve hours off and stuff like that like I. Know, those people like my wife, a saint like cheap, yeah, managing that and trying to sleep during the day I'm just like I I. Don't know how you doing. Let's tough job Some days are long. Some days are short. It all depends. I mean you know we end? Yeah, it varies to the thing I think I think that's the biggest thing is like people I mean going back to the comment about you know all what a weekend or you know canes. Can't you just take take a day off? Yeah, but it's also like. It's it's our livelihood, so if we don't go now, we're not making money and we're not making money. Why are we even doing it? You know I mean to be honest with you. It's fun. But. We don't do it just for fun like. If you just for fun. What's the point yeah? I mean if you had a bunch of money to blow. Don't get me wrong. It'd be fine, but pretty much every I mean every business you want. You want the business. Concede so, how do you do that? You put in the time in the effort and hard work. Sure would be a lot less stressful if money wasn't an. Bankrolls just rolling through, yeah! That way if you made a bad decision, it wouldn't be like My My. I may lose the farm over this, but on the contrary though. Even if it was you know. Bankroll New Ford it. When you start growing crop, and you get it down and it starts getting ruined. You're like. Yeah Okay now, I'm losing money because it's money, it's just like going to the casino same thing. It's like Oh. You know I want four hundred bucks. And then you're like undermined. I just lost all of that four hundred dollars because I wanted to play for another twenty minutes like it's the same kind of deal. It's like it's all just kind of a big gamble on a crap shoot. You know for for what's going on. You know you try everything in your power to get it. Get it done right, and then one thing comes through and ruins This is the real food. Real people podcast. These are the stories of the people who grow your food. On the PODCAST WE'RE GONNA finish the conversation with Andrew there's so much more about technology about family and struggles in his story on the farm and coming back to the farm. This is the real food. 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