Following Derek Chauvin's Conviction, Renewed Calls for Police Reform in Congress 2021-04-23

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This week on aria code this is somebody abusing justice to get what he wants. It's not your daily news alert. It's mozart's marriage of figaro. A tale of privilege and power that still resonates today ari code. Listen we're every find your podcasts. I'm rebecca gotta host of wnyc and npr's consider this in for ten vega. This is the takeaway this week's conviction of former police officer derek. Chauvin for the murder of george. Floyd has reignited calls for sweeping police reform across the us. Today we feel a sigh of relief. Still it cannot take away the pain. A measure of justice isn't the same as equal justice. This verdict brings us a step closer and the fact is we still have work to do. We still reform the system and while many did breathe a sigh of relief over the past. Week we've also been reminded of just how rampant police violence against black people is in the country sixteen-year-olds makhaya bryant in columbus ohio and andrew brown junior in elizabeth city north carolina are among the black americans most recently killed by police officers. Here's felonious floyd brother of george floyd speaking after the guilty verdict was announced for derek. Chauvin getting harder every ten miles away from him. Mr right dante right. Yeah this is still be here. We always understand that we have to watch. We have to do this for many. Lawmakers pledged to dramatically overhaul policing at the federal level in the aftermath of floyd's murder last may yet close to a year later. Progress has been slow last month. The house passed the george floyd justice and policing act in close vote with zero support from republicans it heads to the senate next and even with democrats in control. It's expected to be an uphill battle mark conversations. The lloyd family. I spoke again today. We're going to continue to fight. For the passage of george floyd justice and police enact so i can sign the law as quickly as possible for more on federal police reform legislation in washington. We're joined now by representative barbara lee of california's thirteenth district congresswoman great to have you with us. Nice being with you rebecca. Thank you very much. How comprehensive is george floyd justice and policing act. Thank you It's very comprehensive and Elimidate first of all the verdict With regard to mr floyd. It's really cracked. Open the door to accountability but True justice is a world in which this never would have happened to mr floyd or to countless others men. And so the. George floyd justice and policing act is a major step forward of course. It does not address all of these structural and systemic issues as it relates to structural racism. But i just have to tell you. I believe that if the bill had been made law had been signed into back we would have saved many many lives. And it's you know a buried sad Thought a moment to think that republicans in the house did not vote for it. Not one. But i have a lot of hope because i know congresswoman karen bass. She's a good friend. Senator booker senator scott and they are working day and night trying to reach. Some form of bipartisan Agreement so that this can move forward and beyond the president's desk very slow congresswoman. Let's break down a few of the things this legislation would do. The bill would ban chokeholds and qualified immunity which often shields police from some lawsuits are these sweeping reforms or more incremental. Well i think in many ways. They are sweeping reforms. But of course again. As i said we have a lot of work to do to address the structural and underlying issues. But when you look at the fact that If a police officer hurt or kill someone they should not have from lawsuits. They currently do bats a sweeping reform banning the use of chop chokeholds. I mean. can you imagine anyone Especially republicans Saying we should allow chokeholds That's sweeping reform when you look at The fact that we're asking that we not allow the transfer of weapons of war to police departments. That's sweeping reform. Also it's really important to understand and a lot of people don't even know that we don't have a national database so that The public police department has really seen who these offices are it whether or not they're corrupt dangerous or abusive again. That's a sweeping reform. And these sound like measures that should have been in place in law already. But they're not and so. This is an important bill. It's a bill that We must pass. It's a must pass bill. And so i have to say. I'm very cautiously that it's going to get done because we have some Really strategic committed individuals who were formed the negotiation team right. It's informal. But i believe that these are gonna become More formalized as days go by you mentioned the database. That's the national police misconduct registry. That's being proposed. Can you tell us a little bit more about the aim of that first of all we need to be able to know about an office history of disciplinary action and that needs to be recorded in an accessible database. And that would allow it. We know that some offices moved from one department to another from one city to another to avoid accountability and it's important to have this database to Include the use of force traffic stocks that required again. The database requires collection analysis and release data to track individuals. Such as isn't so that's a way to prevent Abusive police officers corrupted dangerous. Police officers from Quite frankly killing people especially african americans congresswoman as you may know many progressive vists actually opposed this bill because they say anything short of overhauling. The entire system isn't enough. And i'll use new york as an example. The nypd banned the use of chokeholds nine ninety s and. That didn't stop an officer from killing. Eric garner with a cold twenty years later. So what's your response to that. Well my response to that is. It may not go far enough. I voted for it. I'm a progressive and i understand the realities. We see right now with this buried of of good bill. That establishes the national standard mandates data collection Reprograms existing funds for community based policing streamlining the federal law to prosecute accessible as. We know that these are good measures in that. This would begin to help address address. The systemic issues. I want to see a systemic racism structural racism dismantled within our criminal justice system in every other system in our country and so the political realities are. We've got to get this passed and it may not go far enough many dozen but we have to start somewhere to save lives and this will save black and brown lives. So people like gina clayton johnson and attorney inactive save. Black and brown folks have organized and help elect democrats to office in the hope that lawmakers will deliver on a commitment to race justice and equality so congresswoman when democrats like. You're up for reelection. Will you be able to look voters likely and johnson in the. I say this bill is the best we could do. Absolutely and let me tell you i. I just have to say she's right. Black and brown people elected democrats to congress the house and the senate as well as the white house and so there's accountability there this require and again the young people people who are protesting peacefully in the streets In many respects they are pushing the envelope to make sure that Police reform becomes a reality in this country as well as dismantling systemic racism when you look at the composition of the senate and again i get very frustrated myself because democrats have the house the senate and the white house but members of the senate members of the house come from different districts and the political dynamics around this is such that we have to and again i have to salute congresswoman bass senator booker and senator scott. 'cause they're trying. They're trying very hard but if they have if this difficult to bring republicans around so we can get a bill. Imagine what if we didn't have those individuals especially You know the margin in the senate band so fragile. We do have You know two additional senators but it's so tight it's so close until we have to push the envelope as far as we can push or do nothing. And i don't especially like incremental change because enough is enough in the time is now so at this point with the political composition of the senate and in the house and it was a difficult bill to get through the house also It's either We act on something or nothing. And i have to say we have to keep our movement going our political movement and hoped members of congress accountable at the ballot box. And i'm certainly willing. And i come from a very enlightened and progressive district and i i'm willing to stand before my constituents and say i did everything i could do to save black and brown lives from Police murders and police misconduct. I did everything. I can do to hold police accountable and to increase transparency. You know. I did everything i could do to make sure that police officers don't consider themselves above the law. I'll tell them. I did everything i could do to ban the use of choke holes and i hope that they would vote for me because they know i'm fighting for them and i'm gonna keep fighting until true. Justice is done. And i you know as much as i don't again as a progressive incremental change for me and i've been in this battle all my life for justin and our just say i'm still standing to fight for another day but I hope and recognized. I salute our young people especially who really did bring us a democratic majority by Unbelievable voter registration voter engagement and get out to vote. And that's a fact so we have time for one last question here. There have been recent discussions between democrats and republicans. Senator tim scott of south carolina to see if there's a compromise if a compromise can be reached on this legislation between the two parties. Are there specific areas that you see room for compromise with the gop on this. Then i would leave that up to a our negotiators. They know where they are in the talks. But i have to tell you This is a very good moderate. First step and i know that whatever Agreements are reached. It will be so that justice is done. And so that we will begin to send a signal and set a new standard for policing and saying that black lives do matter congresswoman. Barbara lee represents california's thirteenth district representative. Lee thank you so much for joining us. My pleasure we're joined now by reporter who's been following all this very closely. Nicholas blue is a congressional reporter for politico nick. Great to have you with us. Thanks so much for having me. We just heard from representative. Barbara lee about the george floyd justice in policing act. Is there anything she said that stood out to you. What really stood out to me was quite much Democrats are still pushing for the george floyd justice in policing act. Even though as she noted the political reality of congress in the fifty fifty split in the senate is going to make it really hard to get that piece of legislation through since there are provisions there like the end a qualified immunity that republicans. Just don't really seem like they want to vote for nick. So do we have a sense of how significant this legislation would be for addressing police violence especially since the federal government really has very little control over state and local law enforcement congresswoman. Lee had said that might save lives. And that's certainly something that many proponents of this bill leave but the devil really isn't the details here. Since a lot of the way this bill works by basically conditioning federal funds on certain policy provisions. So kind of nudging local police departments to adopt certain policies. But they would be very hard to do so especially given that and we don't have the same kind of national police force united states other countries have. It's interesting that this is going to be really hard to pass and one of the sticking points. You mentioned his qualified immunity. Can you tell us why this is such a sticking point qualified immunity for democrats They see it as something that basically allows cost to act with impunity because they think that with these sorts of legal protections place police that make it very hard to bring civil suits against them. cops can act like they won't face any sort of repercussions for their actions congresswoman karen bass basically made that point to me a couple of days ago but for republicans This is something that would lead all sorts of lawsuits against police and would get in the way of allowing police to actually do their police work because they'd be fighting lawsuits all time. Republican senator. tim. Scott has proposal it police reform proposal which some democrats have said. It is too narrow in scope. Could there be any room for compromise. There there might be. Senator scott is talking with the congresswoman bass. Who's the lead sponsor of the george floyd bill and In a that there aren't any formal negotiations yet and they're still waiting for any signs of movement among leadership in both the house and senate but at least they have this line of conversation going and if there is going to be any sort of movement i mean it's going to be among these people who have been hashing out the details on this legislation all nick. Some activists including those from the movement for black lives oppose the legislation as it currently is where is their opposition coming from so as you know some people from the movement for black lives have put it. They want a bill that would actually redirect funding lease a defunding. The police so to speak And so this is where legislation like the so called breathe act which leave congresswoman ianna presley. A sponsor comes in the which would in addition to some of these policy provisions. would work towards a redistributing away from law enforcement. Now this is something bat The publicans very strongly oppose and now faces resistance from within the democratic party as well especially after many democrats either losses in the house last year. As in part due to this whole controversy over defunding the police. I want to talk about the derek chauvin trial for a second was the trial itself. Pretty divisive in in washington. What did you hear from different lawmakers about the process or the verdict lawmakers were withheld a lot of comment until the verdict came down or try not to influence the jurors when the verdict finally did come down. It was interesting. I was was on the hill that day and members of the congressional black caucus had all gathered in one room outside the house floor to watch the verdict read out on a single laptop screen and then once that finally came out. You know you heard like all the size of relief and then People walked outside now hand-in-hand To to talk about it and as as as congresswoman bassett put it. I mean this. This brought her and other members back Almost thirty years to the rodney king verdict which had gone a much different way. And i think for a lot of these members they were just happy to see some Element of justice done and unlike many other issues in washington. I mean this was something that very much aroused a certain degree of a bipartisan consensus. That no something. Something had happened here. Now what they do to fix. This long-standing issue of police misconduct is something else altogether. Yeah and if the george floyd justice and policing act is in past at the federal level could we see cities and states taking up similar laws or is that happening at all already but they certainly could mean of course cities and states will have control over their own a local law enforcement end move its day decided to pass legislation along. The lines of this could be something that they do Whether or not there's movement on that again it goes back to this How there are splits even among progressives on how exactly to reform the police so we'll have to wait and see their and then. How important is it. That vice president. Kamala harris helped draft the bill and that it has president biden support it. It certainly helps give the white house's imprint on the spill i mean vice president harris's course the very first black vice president but now has as we've seen with other issues in congress even the support of the white house isn't always enough to shepherd legislation over the finish line nicholas. Wu is a congressional reporter for political nicholas. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank the takeaway is brought to you by progressive one of the country's leading providers of auto insurance with progressives name your price tool you say what kind of coverage are looking for and how much you want to pay and progressive. We'll help you find options that fit within your budget. Use the name your price tool and start an online quote today at progressive dot com price and coverage match limited by state law. This week president. Joe biden hosted a virtual summit to address climate change on a global level leaders. Forty different countries were in attendance and several promised to cut down greenhouse gas emissions in the coming years including president biden by maintaining those investments and putting these people to work. The united states sets out on the road to cut a greenhouse gases in half and half by the end of this decade organizing. The summit is an attempt by biden to reposition the us as a world leader in the fight against climate change under former president. Donald trump much of that work was halted his administration chose to withdraw the us from the paris. Climate agreement back in march biden also announced the creation of an environmental justice advisory council as part of one of his executive orders to address climate. Change with us to help break this. All down is dr. Mustafa santiago elite former senior adviser for environmental justice and community revitalization at the epa doctor. Great to have you with us. Thank you so much for having me and also joined by mighty at lupus nunez with the iron bond community corporation. She a member of the white house's environmental justice advisory council mighty great to have you here. Thank you for having us. Mustafa you quit the epa just months into the trump administration What has been going through your mind with the climate change summit this week well you know. It is an amazing set of opportunities if it's done right and the accountability is built in and that we sent her frontline communities and and our most vulnerable countries across the planet because our people are the ones that get hit first and worst but seeing some of these commitments is a move in the right direction. We would like to see an even stronger. Set of numbers to make sure that many of the impacts that are happening inside of black and brown and indigenous communities are lessened and then hopefully eliminated one day. So it's a step in the right direction and we are optimistic. That folks will continue to strengthen the various commitments that they've made melania you're a member of the white house environmental justice council would exactly is the council working on we're working on the initiative called justice forty and justice forty is supposed to be a forty percent car row of the investments. Were talking about the climate related investments. Making sure that they go to front line communities and. I hope that everyone understands that. Forty should be considered the floor and not the ceiling in arts the starting point to a guarantee that investments are directed to those who have been most directly impacted so then mustafa bhakti you. What are your thoughts on the biden. Administration's actions on climate change to date specifically when it comes to environmental justice. Or you know it's great to have an administration that actually centers of science climate and environmental justice so. I think that many of us have been doing this work for a long time are pleased that that's happening and we wanna make sure that folks also understand that you can't win on climate change if you don't win on environmental justice maria just shared you know about the forty percent at the step in the right direction but we gotta make sure that those are real because it's labeled as benefits and what our community needs is dollars also so we want to make sure that folks are actually receiving the benefits and the dollars that are necessary for them to continue to frame out the direction that they want to go in also seeing that he has begun to place inside of some of the federal agencies folks who have either come from sets of environmental justice work or competencies in that space is also a step in the right direction but that needs to continue to grow because they're over seventeen federal agencies and departments that have a distinct responsibility for environmental justice. And of course under the biden administration is said that it is an all of government approach. So that means that each one of those agencies and departments should be laser focused on the dynamics that are going on inside of our community and those dynamics those impacts that are happening in black and brown and indigenous communities and asian and pacific islander and sometimes lower wealth white communities that are actually making our lives shorter and making us sick are also the drivers and warming up our oceans and our planet. I'm pleased that they're moving in the right direction. But we know that if we don't stay continually holding people accountable and sometimes folks will slip. Move stuff. I want to talk a bit about. This week's climate summit did any specific announcement from the biden administration. Standout to you. Well i think they were all significant because we got a chance to see where some of the forty members from forty different countries actually sat and relationship to their commitment. So you know many of us Had that at least fifty percent number would come out from the biden administration or from the united states and it's fifty to fifty two percent Some would like to see that number higher because we understand you know the climate crisis that we find. I was pleased to a degree To hear that japan You know was giving some what successful and significant numbers. What i mean by that is that you know anybody. Below fifty percent is falling short. So japan came in at about forty six percent by twenty thirty so for the listeners. What that means is you know. They are going to make sure that they're cutting emissions by that number and then being net zero by twenty fifty which is sort of a baseline For folks now across the planet Canada canada fell a little bit short. To be quite honest with you even though Some would say you know. Of course the united states and china are the two major contributors Everybody is contributing to some degree to what's going on or at least the the major countries if you want to label them that way. So candidate came in somewhere between forty to forty five percent by twenty thirty china. China was a little interesting. And and i'll just close out with china you know. China said their peak emissions before thirty. We'll be car You know that they'll do some work in that space. Didn't give a hard but Said that they would be carbon neutral by twenty sixty which is outside of that norm number of twenty fifty right now. I want to go back to what you said. Before which is the biden administration has pledged that forty percent of the benefits of all its. Climate policies will be directed towards disadvantaged communities. Can you break that down for us. Because what exactly do we mean by benefits. And then how does this. What does this mean on a practical level. Yeah and i mean you know like almost always saying we need forty percent of investments not just benefits because benefits could be anything it could be though bicycling it could be you know if there's all park got to plan it over there may maybe has an effect on our communities so right now you know the council is working on the definition of the forty percent of what is the benefit. But i think we need to go still much many many more steps further right because i think right now at the summit the united states talking to other governments and the united states government really should be talking to environmental justice communities and centering. This conversation about what we're gonna do about climate change with our own people you know. We can't just have state to state relationships. We need to reconnect connect. And we we build a relationship that's been broken between the federal government and the community who are directly impacted and muddier. How much can the white house actually do on environmental justice without legislative action. I mean there's always plenty. We could do for instance. I'm not too happy about the net zero. I would like to see us talk about direct emissions cutting emissions at source. You know because right now. Our communities are being assaulted by carbon sequestration plans. Technical fixes juneja nearing. There are things that we need at the community level And i think that we could start the conversation because that would force legislative action. You know if there is a big take the show on the road talked to all the different communities across the country environmental justice community indigenous communities. Then i think that would go really far and building the political will to get something done and of course things could be done by executive action. Right we need executive orders right now. On trump was in shaida. Use them. And i would love to see more on forcefulness on behalf of justice for our communities. Mustafa what were some of the biggest bureaucratic hold-ups that you witnessed inside of the epa on environmental justice. Well you know if we're going to have an honest conversation something always go real talk. You know you you've got bic's discrimination and systemic racism that has been built into our policies For decades that make it more difficult for communities of color to actually get justice so the unpacking and dismantling of that is critically important. And then even if you saw You know strong work being done or attempted on the federal level. We still have to realize that those dollars and those actions leave the feds and go down to the states and the counties and local governments. So as it's making that journey you have the assumption that folks are going to do the right things on those levels and sometimes yes and sometimes no so you have to make sure a one year building stronger accountability into the process and to That those folks have the resources tools that they need and then the other part which was outside of the government was definitely connected to the government is making sure that frontline organizations have the resources that they need To build the capacity to be able to all the challenges that exist in dealing with bureaucracies and trying to make real change happen so this administration has the exact same set of challenges and then also the overlay of the climate crises. That were fine so We've got a lot of work to do to make sure that folks have those competencies to there's accountability And that bo- folks on the local level in government and frontline organizations have the resources they need to be able to make change happen media. Your organization is based in newark new jersey. What impact does environmental racism have on residents of newark specifically. I mean when we look at the skyline we see the state's largest garbage incinerator right which fifty percent of trash. It's not even it's coming from new york city you know. It's not trust as being generated even within our state. Then we have two power plants in our neighborhood right next to the port of newark and elizabeth in. We have fat rendering times. Plastic plants will also boarded by the longest superfund site in the country. That's the passaic river where we made agent orange during the be not war and the poison that was left behind her. That it's all around neighborhood and it has never been cleaned up. We have over one hundred bonfield sites. And when i want folks to understand is when i'm talking about my neighborhood i'm talking about four square miles. You know talking about concentration. I'll pollution legacy pollution. That has not been cleaned up for many administrations. You know. so i'm thankful for the movement that been holding out. Federal government steadily accountable and for us to be at this moment. But i want to see real change. Not just word you know. I want us to sing shah Into the just transition and make sure that we don't leave behind communities like ours. Mustafa how does what media is describing in newark compared to the effects of environmental racism on communities of colored nationwide look just call it the motorola and the folks at ironbound have been doing amazing work for decades and often with the with not having the right amount of resources that they need it. You know the dynamics that we have going on across our country that ground truth and ankara to why this work both on the environmental justice side and the climate side is so important we have one hundred thousand people who die prematurely from air pollution every year in our country. That's more folks that are dying from air pollution than dying from gun violence. More people are dying from air pollution. Dinner die from car. Crashes and all those things are important and we have to give our attention to it to make change happen in that space and our country we got over sixty million people who have dealt with unsafe drinking water over the last decade and we know in both those situations that i mentioned. It is primarily black and brown and indigenous communities that are dealing with it. No community should have to deal with that or in port. Arthur texas where hilton kelly is a goldman prize winner. You know at once thriving african american community. They're surrounded by petrochemical facilities And they have high rates of cancer and liver and kidney disease and a number of other things so when our communities are impacted are health is impacted and then our wealth is impacted because our homes lose value when we're next to these types of things and historically we placed our housing and flood plains and next the toxic facilities and you see it across our country whether we're talking about on reservations or we're talking about an appalachia with lower wealth white communities or of course black and brown communities all across our country when you look at what's going on in alaska where brothers and sisters literally their homes of sliding into the ocean Because of the changes that are happening from climate change and from the exposures that they've had to deal with from toxic pollution or we seen what happened with brothers and sisters. And my family's from puerto rico. you know. The impact that happened from hurricane maria but it was happening even before hurricane. Maria got there that folks were dealing with superfund sites and brownfield sites and And the military Doing testing and leaving it behind in places like the and others so we have a lot of work to do as we're having this conversation about climate you know we've gotta be very aware that we have to rebuild the infrastructure inside of our communities. If we're going to be able to fully be able to participate in this new clean economy that the president and others talk about and the end as needed But we've got to make sure that we're not placing veneers over the challenges that still exist inside of our communities media. Do you have any advice for local organizers trying to push back against environmental racism and organiz. I mean it's a it's a yeah right last just because the challenges so hard because for organizers on the ground did not just dealing with climate change dealing with racism with police brutality with immigration raids. Gentrification you know like it is a hard time to be an organizer in community and one thing that nancy doc was working with us for forty seven years. She always says we can't give up at the same time so. Make sure that you have strong team with you. And they take turns Because this work does us down but we have to keep going. because of decades of organizing we've reached a moment where today With environmental justice finally being centered and. I'm hopeful that we keep pushing. We're we're actually gonna get somewhere time. Lopez nunez works with the ironbound community corporation and is a member of the white house's environmental justice advisory council and dr mustafa santiago. Lee is a former senior adviser for environmental justice and community revitalization at the epa. Thank you both for joining us. Thank you this week. The house voted along party lines to pass legislation that would make the district of columbia state. This is the second time. The house has voted to grant statehood to dc the legislation also known as hr fifty one now heads to the senate if passed by the senate and signed into law. The legislation would establish washington. Douglas commonwealth as the fifty first state. Yes the state would be renamed for abolitionist and civil rights leader. Frederick douglas dc residents would gain two senators and a voting congressperson advocates for statehood. Have tied the battle for dc statehood to the fight for equal voting rights and racial equality as black residents represent the largest racial demographic group of the district's more than seven hundred thousand citizens the nationwide reckoning over systemic racism and the ground swell of support for voting rights has the fight for statehood now as the dc statehood. Bill the senate. It faces a number of hurdles including the filibuster joining us now to discuss what statehood would mean for her. Constituents is representative eleanor. Holmes norton of washington dc. Welcome to the takeaway representative norton representive. You've represented washington d. c. In congress for about thirty years and have spent much of that time. Championing statehood for dc. How does it feel to have legislation for statehood. Passed the house for the second time. Well the reason. I haven't been able yet sainthood before now is because that's gonna end the minority most of my time in the congress so the moment i got in the majority i pressed hard for statehood and now it feels that we are well on our way because more than fifty four percent of the american people according to a very detailed poll support statehood. That's the effect of the hearings of telling americans what they did not know many americans Were confused they thought we had the same rights that they had They some were were bleed. We shouldn't some some justed know the effects of the hearings. has been to essentially educate the public for example. They didn't know that. The residents of their nation's capital pay the highest federal taxes per capita highest in the united states. And yet don't have the same rights as other americans. How did statehood for dc become attendant of the democratic party platform. Well the it would be in the democratic party platform because statehood issues have always been divided. Republicans have tended to support statehood when the people involved were republicans from republican states and vice versa representative norton. You were active in the civil rights movement and helped organize the nineteen sixty three march on washington today. Forty six percent of dc's more than seven hundred thousand residents are black. So does this fight for statehood. Feel like a civil rights battle to you at all. Well it does feel like a continuation of of the battles at ford's very actually as a student stood more equality for african americans now for most of its time as as a jurisdiction the the the district has been majority white and the ad was not treated equally so while my experience in the civil rights movement and my own lineage as a third generation washingtonian have all helped to to to shape mind Per se toward it comes from very different points on the spectrum even though this legislation will now advance to the senate. It faces an uphill battle without republican support. But there's also concern about the legislation lacking full support from senate democrats. Is that right. We do have a few democrats still to get from war conservative democratic states But we have more than ninety percent of the democrats as co sponsors for the bill o. Yesterday we pass this bill in the house of representatives hearing in a big push in the senate we believe that the filibuster on its last legs remember the senate has gotten rid of the filibuster floor. Nominations and in fact they got rid of the filibuster where everything except legislation. The senate held up organizing this year that session because of the filibuster so the senate is determined to get rid of the filibuster because this majority democratic senate knows that the reason it got the majority is because the republicans who had had control of the senate had passed nothing legislation from the house went to the senate to die and the people gave the senate to the democrats win. The filibuster goes everything else. It's gonna go for dc statehood. So i'm optimistic about this bill in the senate as well representative. How have republicans you've been talking to. In congress responded to the argument that not allowing tc to become a state effectively disenfranchises than seven hundred thousand residents. The arguments have been essentially. Partisan some have been absurd that we don't have the kinds of stores Or industry as hand but basically Statehood and that is not only for the district of for every state is simply been a part of matter and how significant is having support from the white house in the fight for dc statehood for you because this week president biden issued a policy statement in which he expressed his support for. Hr fifty one and statehood for dc. Now white house support has been truly important. The president's strong statement of support means that we have a kind of pol To get this done not just a push from from the congress say really means a great deal to the progress. We're making on statehood that democrats control the house. The senate and now the presidency is well. That's why we're making such a big push this session of congress representative eleanor. Holmes norton is washington. Dc's delegate in the house of representatives representative norton. Thank you so much pleasure. That's all we have for you today. It's always wonderful being here with you folks if you missed anything or want to listen back check out our podcast. You can find it wherever you get your pods or head to the takeaway dot org also before we go. I want to say a special. Thank you to the team who works so hard to get this show together day in and day out. Jackie martin is our line. Producer or producers are wholesale is ethan obermann dalton patricia jacob. Lydia mcmullen laird and our senior producer is amber hall polly. Irungu is our digital editor. Vince fairchild is broadcast engineer j palate is our director and editor. David gable is our executive assistant and lee hill is our ep. Thank you so much for listening. 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