WH asked McGahn to say Trump never obstructed justice; NYT: McGahn was asked at least twice and declined; Giuliani denies he's traveling to Ukraine to meddle in 2020 election: Instead, "we're meddling in an investigation"; U.S. deploying more patriot miss
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Breaking news shocking requests, the president asking the former White House counsel, Don Mcgann to declare the president did not obstruct Justice. It is an order Mcgann denied in recent weeks pluses Trump's attorney colluding with a foreign government Rudy Giuliani publicly saying he plans to pressure a foreign government to investigate Trump's potential twenty twenty rival Joe Biden, how does this add up? Plus Senator comma Harrison, a revealing you interview opening up about being a stepmother, and what she calls her very modern family. Let's go out front. Good evening. I'm Erin Burnett out front tonight. The breaking news and administration official telling CNN moments ago that the White House asked former White House counsel, Don Mcgann to state publicly that President Trump did not obstruct Justice the New York Times reporting that team Trump ask them again, not once but twice the requests coming after the White House saw the Muller report, which said that Trump had ordered is then White House counsel, Don Mcgann to fire. Bob muller. Now, Mcgann turned the president down then and in this request publicly say that wasn't obstruction of Justice Mcgann is crucial to all of this. He of course, was the White House counsel. He was one of Bob Mueller ski witnesses mentioned more than five hundred times in the Muller report more than any other witness in the entire document. And according to molars reporting, Trump ordered Mcgann to fire Muller, which of course, is a request the president has publicly denied and making. I never told Don Mcgann to fire Mueller. If I wanted to fire Mueller, I would've done it myself. Pamela Brown is out front live outside the White House, Pamela. What are you learning this hour? Well, we're learning more about the White House reaction to the episodes laid out a robber Muller's report about former White House counsel, Don Mcgann, and the president's request ahead to dismiss a special counsel them that we've learned through sources familiar with this matter Aaron that the White House reached out to Don mcgann's lawyer, William Burke, asking Burke to ask his client, Don Mcgann to come out and say that the president's directive to fire the special counsel. Robert Muller was not obstruction of Justice. And that Don Mcgann a rebuff that request. Now, a source familiar with this matter says one of the factors in that was because Bill bar the attorney general had already come out and said that publicly not only in that four page letter saying that he didn't believe the president of struck to Justice. But also in the. Conference that he held just before the release of the Muller report. And so the calculation was made among Don Mcgann and his attorney that it wasn't a necessary. That was one of the factors. I'm told by source familiar. Why Mcgann didn't do it? Now. The White House was aware that Don Mcgann had told the special counsel during his more than thirty hours of interviews. That began did not believe that the president obstructed Justice through his actions. And so it appears Erin that the White House wanted Mcgann to then come out publicly say that to help squelch some of the fallout from the report, but again, Mcgann decided not to do that. And also part of the calculation was at the president tweeted directing right at Mcgann as you'll remember right after the reports release the next day saying asking why people are taking notes and so forth. And so at that point it really became moot. Mcgann to ever come out and make any sort of statement. But it's interesting to note that this is coming out now. Because in fact, the White House is getting what it wanted getting it out there that Magana told the special counsel that he didn't believe the president of struck to Justice Aaron all right? Thank you very much, Pamela. Let's go to maharaja out front on Capitol Hill and mono, look as we said, no one is more integral to the Muller reports. Certainly in terms of mentions and time testifying to Muller than Don Mcgann, chairman Nadler, of course, he would initiate impeachment proceedings. If there were to be any has subpoenaed Mcgann, the president is instructed we end to defy that subpoena. Where does this go from from here? Democrats undoubtedly will want to ask these questions too dumb, again, if he were to appear in a public setting in era. Absolutely, right. A subpoena has been issued for his appearance by may twenty-first and earlier today, Jerry Nadler told me that if Mcgann does not appear that he will be held in contempt of congress for defying the subpoena. Now this, of course, comes after Mcgann declined to turn over records to the House Judiciary. Earlier this week under instruction from the White House. That said that those records could breach confidentiality discussions between the White House counsel and the president. Now, if they were take this move, they were to do something similar to prevent him from actually testifying in a public setting either invoking executive privilege or taking other action to stop him from answering questions expect this to be yet. Another court fight between House Democrats and the administration to get the bottom of this to get the records and to hear from such a key player who witnessed all these actions in the first two years of the Trump presidency who also was ordered according to the mullahs report to fire the special counsel in apparent effort to squelch that investigation. Democrats want to hear all of this. The moment though, Aaron is not clear whether again will come to Capitol Hill and answer these questions, which is why these threats are now looming large of holding in contempt fines disbarments and that cetera as the. We'll see how the Democrats the Democrats alternately. Do. We'll see what Mcgann decides to do as well. All right. Thank you very much mono. And I want to go now to democratic congressman from Illinois. Roger crystal Marty who sits on the house intelligence and oversight committee's congressman good to have you back. What's your reaction? Don't you can use the White House asked former White House counsel, Don Mcgann twice in the past month? Once they saw the Muller report. And in one case prior to it actually becoming public. But after the White House sought telling Don Mcgann to go publicly and say, President, Trump never obstructed Justice and Mcgann denied refuse to do. So. Well, as you know, the president said that there was no obstruction of Justice. So the fact that he would ask Mcgann to go out there. And and and say that there was no obstruction of Justice in hints at what they really believe is the case. But this all goes to a bigger issue. Which is we need to have the unredacted fully unredacted Muller report, including everything related to mcgann's conversations. With regard to these issues and others, we need to see the underlying documents. And of course, we need to have Mcgann testifying Capitol Hill. So obviously, it looks at this obstruction issue. The president said there's no structure you've got now more than eight hundred former prosecutors at the DOJ saying that they think that you look at this at adds up to obstruction. Don, Mcgann won't come out and publicly say that it wasn't. But he's he's a crucial guy to hear from. And thus far you might not. I mean does this change where you are on impeachment or no? And if no why. Well, right now, I'm so like focused like a laser on the challenge right in front of our face, which is are the American people going to have oversight of this president or do we have a system of checks and balances with regard this executive or not we have subpoenas out, obviously for Mr. mcgann's testimony. But today also subpoenas were issued for his tax returns subpoenas were issued for other folks testimony as well on other issues. None of them have been complied with now, we're even seeing Republicans start issuing subpoenas such as Senator Richard burn the Senate or done junior testimony. So this is becoming I hope a bipartisan concern because this should not just be an issue for one part of the party to be concerned with. So, you know, the House Judiciary chairman Nadler has threatened to hold Mcgann and contempt if he doesn't comply with his subpoena. And there's various things you could do as money was laying out. Right. You could end up with him being disbarred all sorts of things that would affect his his. His life significantly. Congressman Nadler also says the full house could hold a single vote to to find multiple people in contempt are there. Other people you plan to hold in contempt noting the bar, obviously was already voted as such by that committee. Yes. I think that well, let's see we have to see whether folks comply with subpoenas. That are outstanding. For instance, Mr. Mnuchin and the IRS Commissioner Mr Rettig now must turn over tax returns by next Friday. According to the subpoena issued by chairman Neil from the House Ways and means committee, and let's see if they comply, but for instance, on my committee on the oversight committee. We had Mr. Carl Kline who is in charge of the security clearance process refused to answer a number of questions, and he is also under subpoena. So in my opinion, it probably does make sense to consolidate these various contempt proceedings and so forth, but obviously we have to give people a chance to comply. So all right. So, but if they don't comply, what do you do you go to court to enforce that if they still don't comply then you move forward with an impeachment proceeding? Is there is that still the extra step that needs to occur? In your mind, congressman? You know, I'm not there yet. I want the investigation to proceed and one one issue that I just wanna Braise very briefly is with a guard of the tax returns. There's actually a statutory violation in in addition to violation of the subpoena. But the main point here is that we have to have a system of checks and balances the president right now is thumbing his nose at the American people in not answering any of these subpoenas or having people testify on Capitol Hill. And we cannot have that the other question that comes up is what are they trying to hide what is behind this refusal to comply with basic requests for information. So look, you have a fair point they say, but hey, there seventeen of these you guys want you guys want everything in the kitchen sink. And how do you make the case to the American people that this is not as the president says your effort to influence twenty twenty or relitigate twenty sixteen. Sure. Well, right now as we can see not only is he not complying with issues related to the Muller report. But on a whole host of issues, Aaron, and I know that the American people definitely want to be able to have oversight of the president with guarded, for instance, healthcare issues or with a guard to immigration issues, and the list goes on and on if we allow the president not to comply with these basic requests for materials, then he will do the same thing. With regard to those other issues, which are as crucial as these to the interests and welfare of the American people. Finally, I would just say one thing on my house intelligence committee in another bipartisan request, chairman Schiff and Devin newness, the ranking member have come together. And now for the second time requested all counterintelligence materials associated with the Mahler report. They still have yet to receive that. And so I think that there's perhaps a growing disad. His faction with the president's behavior, even among Republicans getting unison shift to agree on anything as a pretty miraculous thing. Thank you. Thank you very much. I appreciate your time. Thank you next is Trump's personal attorney already colluding Rudy Giuliani tonight says he's pushing a foreign government to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. What is he thinking plus breaking news tensions escalating in the Middle East the US sending more patriot missiles to the region tonight. These Trump on a collision course at a former congresswoman who voted to impeach Richard Nixon talks about whether history is repeating herself. She's out front. Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Our friends at Zanny optical offer, a huge variety of high quality stylish frames and state of the art optics starting at just six ninety five. You can get multiple frames with this great pricing for less than one pair. Elsewhere start building your eyewear wardrobe from the comfort of your own home at Xeni dot com. 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So why is Giuliani doing it? Well, according to Giuliani, quote, that information will be very very helpful to my client. His client is President Trump who should know better by now. Right. I mean where to even start with this. How about with Trump's own handpicked FBI director? Foreign government offers assistance to a political campaign opposition research, stolen, information social media campaign, or otherwise, what would you director the FBI you discovered it as that campaign to do? My view is that if any public official or member of any campaign is contacted by any nation state or anybody acting on behalf of a nation state about influencing or interfering with our election. And that's something that the FBI would wanna know about. And it sure wanna know, right. If American citizen was calling up a foreign government and asking it will that that's actually like a whole 'nother thing, actually even worse. So the FBI knows about it now because Giuliani is not hiding it. He is putting it out there for us all to see out front tonight. Jeffrey, Harris, former principal assistant to Rudy Giuliani at the department of Justice and former deputy associate attorney general in both the Reagan and Carter administrations Michael warrants reporter who has been covering this story and Patrick Healey political editor for the New York Times. So Jeffrey is what Giuliani is doing as he says, it could be improper isn't even allowed. We'll know it it is not allowed and. Rudy knows that what I think's going on here is that people like Rudy are emboldened by the fact that they think that they're they have Teflon on them that in the Trump administration with an attorney general like bar that they can basically do what they want. And even though it might. 'cause scrutiny in another administration. They sort of feel free to do whatever ever suits their purpose. So I mean, Michael from your reporting let me just quote Giuliani gun here. Right. We're not meddling in election or meddling in an investigation, which we have a right to do. And of course, then he says it's going to help his his client, very very much is climbing. The president Joe Biden is obviously part of the story. The reason Giuliani is doing this. So this the context here because it's important Joe Joe Biden is is at the head of the democratic polls. He could very well be the opponent for President Trump Giuliani says there's questions about Biden's efforts to remove a Ukrainian prosecutor who years earlier was investigating a Ukrainian natural gas company connected to Biden's, son. All right. It sounds complicated. But they think there's something really smelly. Their opposition research that they could dig up or they could ask a foreign government to dig up for them. That's the crazy thing here. Is there any there there will? And I think there are some legitimate questions. Maybe about one hundred Biden's role in this company. You know, he comes to be on the board of this company. It's a compensated position. He has no experience in the energy industry. And this is in Ukraine, which was at that point having a sort of political upheaval. Lot of oligarchs running these big companies and his father happened to be vice president of the United States. So but set that aside because one of the things I've been talking with Rudy Giuliani for about this issue for about the past week. And one of the frustrating things for me as a reporter is every time I've asked him for evidence about whether Joe Biden himself ever acted improperly or unethically he can't provide it. And so I think we should really be approaching sort of the insinuation Giuliani's making about Joe Biden's role in this with a healthy dose of skepticism. As you say you heard what the presence FBI director said not not that anyone should even need to be told this. But I guess is the heart of the Muller report when someone reaches out to you and says I have done I'll do this in their foreign government. That that is that is it is against everything this country stands for is against the law. You call the FBI where did you only on his calling them and asking for their help? Incredible incredible. I mean, he's he's going to Ukraine to get in a meeting with president-elect zone skied to basically lobby him to encourage an investigation put it sounds like political pressure from president-elect on their own investigators to keep something cooking simply because it might help President Trump not necessarily because it's in the interests of truth one way or another were because this is somehow in America's interests, but because it would help his client President Trump. I mean Rudy Giuliani. Just looks like basically, you know, a paid political lobbyist going into foreign soil asking a foreign government to help out the political prospects of the president it feels like we just saw this movie for two years, and it's just very strange that folks in the Trump administration. You know, mayor Giuliani seem to think this is a good idea and would be as he said, it could be seen as improper even admits that means sees it as proper chat free. You know, who did Juliana you've worked with him. What is he thinking? Well, that's a very good question. The Rudy that I knew and worked with would never engage in this kind of conduct. He was pretty scrupulous and ethical issues. He never even approached the line. I I really wonder what's happened in the intervening years since I worked with him. But I really think there is an atmosphere now among the Trump loyalists that they really feel that there are no breaks on them. They can do what they want. No one will hold them to account, but you know, the day will come when this kind of Faustian bargain may come home to roost. So Michael what does happen from here? Who'd you Juliana ain't gonna presumably go to Ukraine and try to force a new government to reopen. An investigation to something that happened seven years or several years ago. Extensively to find out. What about Joe Biden? Right. I mean, I think that what Rudy Giuliani's goal here is not necessarily to seek an end answer to these questions, but is just a race of and to have people sort of reconsider. Well, maybe something did happen. So doubt, I think that's really the role that Giuliani has taken over the last couple of years, particularly in the last year, he's been working as the president's personal lawyer again, he's not really offering legal advice in a traditional sense. He's he's much more of sort of a mix between public relations going on cable news and different and the president and political attack dog. That's what he's doing. There's also this thing about Giuliani. He has muddied the waters and in some sometimes you look at it. Go team by the water. He's the one who, you know, made it clear, the president was lying about stormy Daniels. But yet the president has seemed to think this works this confusion, this muddying the waters. At times making the president looking really bad. But then maybe doesn't times like these. There has been no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russians or Trump and Russians. No collusion. Is it still the position of you? And your client that there was no collusion with the Russians whatsoever. On behalf of the Trump campaign. Correct. I never said there was no collusion between the campaign or between people in the campaign. Sorry. It's Christmas face made me laugh there. But this is what Rudy Giuliani does. I mean, the guy who who was going over to the Ukraine to ask for government to dig up dirt. Which by the way, I mean, I get into espionage issues or whatever that could cause he he's directly contradicted the president on the single most important thing the president keeps saying Rudy Giuliani is a classic muddy of muddier. I mean, you know, oftentimes, he undercuts himself undercuts President Trump in this case, though, he would not be saying I'm going to go over to a, you know, a foreign government and start meddling in the investigation if he didn't have the blessing of the Trump administration meddling. I mean, it's just so strange, but what did it goes to? And it's another reminder, you know, Joe Biden isn't just an early front runner in the race. He is the candidate who a lot of the folks around Trump, and we've heard Trump himself very much see is the most direct threat to an electoral college victory for for Trump and twenty. Twenty. They are very worried about him, and they very much want to muddy this up as much as they can with Biden. All right. Thank you very much all of you. And next breaking news. The Pentagon two point more missiles tonight as Iran warns it can destroy an entire US naval fleet. How dangerous is this esscalation? Plus the democratic women running for president open up about being mothers as part of their pitch to voters. As a mom. I've got little Henry with me. I'm going to fight for people's kids as hard as I would fight for my own. Remember to create an ad like this one visit pure winning dot com slash CNN. Breaking news the US sending more missiles to the Middle East. The Pentagon announcing its deploying more patriots to the region due to threats from Iran. The latest coming from a senior Iranian cleric warning that the US naval fleet in the Middle East could be quote, destroyed with one missile. This comes as North Korea says its military is quote fully prepared to carry out any operations, those are two major frets coming from battles escalating over the past week a person who's being blamed for it is not just the president. But also, the national security adviser John Bolton Michelle Kaczynski is out front, and Michelle how much you know, obviously, the president taking a lot of the blame. But also Bolton. Well, it does seem like right now. Iran policy is squarely in the hands of national security adviser, John Bolton and just taking a step back. President Trump is supposed to be this big non interventionist, right? He doesn't want America involved in endless wars doesn't think that we should be the US the US should be the world's policeman. But inevitably problems. Coach on national security, and he has surrounded himself with some hawks the most hawkish of whom and the most notorious of whom is, of course, John Bolton the reason why this is so concerning now is that he's going on the record. So many times advocating for strikes against Iran advocating for regime change. But Trump doesn't always listen to him. There were couple of times when Trump outright disagreed when Bolton in regards to North Korea mentioned something called he called the Libya model referring to Libyan dictator Moammar Gaddafi giving up his weapons, but then ending up dead that was bound to infuriate North Korea. And it did. But it also infuriated President Trump also on Syria Bolton had been advocating for the US to stay there until all of Iran's proxy troops are gone. But the president was saying no, I want US troops out of there right away. So it doesn't seem to be lost on Trump either right now that some people are getting very freaked out about escalating things with Iran. So liz. Listen to what President Trump said about Bolton. Jugs very good. John is a. His strong views on things. But that's okay. I actually temper John, which is pretty amazing. Isn't it? Nobody thought that was gonna I I'm the one that tempers him. But that's okay. I have different sides. I mean, I have John Bolton and have other people that are a little more dovish than him. And ultimately, I make the decision. They're telling and comforting to some that as many times as we've seen a show of force on the part of the us in the last few days. We've also heard the Trump administration say, no, no, no, the president is willing to talk to Iran errand. All right. Thank you, very much Michelle and now Gordon Chang author of nuclear showdown, North Korea takes on the world and retired. Lieutenant General Mark hurtling former commanding general of US army Europe and the seventh army. Okay, thanks to both general. Let me start with you you have here Iran saying that the entire US fleet in the Middle East could be destroyed with one missile North Korea says it's on high alert its highest alert missiles are being tested fully prepared to carry out the operation. How dangerous is escalating right now. General. Heaven. We heard this before airing. I mean, this is the same kind of bluster that occurred over North Korea. And what I say is quote, my fellow military analyst John Kirby when he says, we have an arsonist whose lighting a bunch of fires and then going in later on with a fire hose and saying I'm the only one that can put it out. This kind of bluster is not dangerous. I mean, I can't say it any other way, these kinds of words back and forth with various countries will cause eventually some kind of mishap we've seen this before throughout history. That's what concerns me the most is something that isn't planned for goes wrong. And it it inflates in a very large scale. Or are you talking about the arsonist to then wants to get credit for putting out the fire? I and I alone. I mean, you're talking about the president and his decisions I would say so and what we're seeing here sort of the same things we saw North Korea. And a different perspective is mixed messaging on the part of various members of the adminis-. You know, the president is you showed in your last clip can claim that he's the decider. But in fact, he's got other people using public information to warn regimes that they better do something or else, and you have a bunch of people speaking, and it's confusing folks when you're talking about the potential for violence on very large scale, Gordon, you know, we've gone from, you know, talk of getting along and love letters and beautiful love letters to all of a sudden Chem now, you know, doing missile tests again, it has been an incredible escalation and deterioration. Well, yes, it has. But we got to remember that President Obama just before Trump took office told the Trump look North Korea's your number one national security problem Trump received John day, one a very difficult situation and Trump in some times has had a very good North Korea policy pushing the north pushing Moscow Beijing Seoul in directions that were very good. Now, I think that this whole idea of trying to entice Kim Jong UN into good behavior isn't working, and we're probably going to see a more hard edge policy going forward, and we absolutely need to do. So because Kim is pushing everybody certainly in the wrong directions. Geno Harling big risks. And then you talk about that missile threats from around missile threats from North Korea. You have a disaster and chaos in Venezuela as well. Yeah. And let's add a few more like Afghanistan, we're still fighting there. We still have elements of ISIS it we're still trying to tamp down. There are other. In the world like the South China Sea. The thing is Aaron what I what I'm seeing today is there is great spin within the Pentagon in terms of dealing with all the problems that are picking up now that's part of a complex world. So you don't need to again throw gasoline on the complexities and make them even worse. You have combatant commanders the four star generals in different regions of the world. Now all asking for additional resources in different theaters. That's very tough to do. It's very hard to fight in multiple the're theaters. And if something happens in any one of those theaters the rest of them are going to react in similar ways. So that that concerns me a great deal. So and then Gordon on top of this the trade talks between the US and China have ended with no deal. How big of a threat is this. I mean when you think about it write all this trade war escalation coming North Korea. Also escalates its threats against the United States, North Korea. Of course in so many ways a satellite state of China. Well, you know, right now, you know, the Chinese are not in the mood to deal with the United States in good faith. And we saw that with the retraction of those commitments across the board see Jinping, the Chinese ruler doesn't believe in the notion of internet of comparative advantage, which underlines the whole idea of trade. So it's very hard to have a trade agreement with someone who doesn't believe in trade siege in pink is taking China making it much more belligerent trying to take territory from his neighbors close off the global Commons. Putin did the same thing, you know, Trump face a situation where his to media predecessors sort of empowered the worst elements in both Moscow and Beijing and now we face a very dangerous situation. I thank you both very much. I appreciate your time. And next to former congresswoman who voted to impeach president Nixon is out front to see agree with members of her former committee. We've talked for a long time about approaching a constitutional crisis. We are now in it. Plus Senator Kamala Harris and a revealing you interview talking about being a step mom. I therefore have two children that are colon. Ella who are here. And they named me. Their mama. La. The case is we gotta find who wrote this. No, we do that. We find the killer. This science defined out. Police used Luminol a chemical which glows when it comes into contact with the iron component in blood that drama, but where was the rifle, and which man was telling the truth for renchik files. The legendary true crime show is now a podcast. Join investigators as they take on the toughest cases with cutting edge scientific tools. Subscribe now with apple podcasts with new episodes every Monday and Thursday, you'll never miss out on getting your for renting fix. Tonight. Retired supreme court Justice John Paul Stevens weighing in on President Trump's stonewalling Justice Stevens, telling the Wall Street Journal, quote, the president is exercising powers that do not really belong to him. I mean, he has to comply with subpoenas and things like that. Front now, former democratic congresswoman Elizabeth Holtzman she served on the House Judiciary committee during president Nixon's impeachment. You see her there? And so you have a very specific perspective on this. You voted to impeach Nixon forty five years ago. You got a retired supreme court Justice saying now, the president is overreaching on the powers that he is exercising. You say we're in a constitutional crisis. Now why? Well, here you have a president who is exercising imperial powers. He's trying to engage in what I call the biggest cover up of all. I mean, he wants to be the biggest he wants to have the biggest inaugural crowd. He wants to be the best president everyone to have the most, blah, blah, blah. He's got the biggest cover up now going on. He's he's said I'm going to fight every subpoena. You can't do that. I mean, I was in congress for eight years. There is a rule of law. Congress is supposed to oversee the executive branch. Congress also has powered issue subpoenas to get information about the government. This won't be the first government where congress wants to find out what the government's doing government can make mistakes they can make they can commit crimes people have to be able to see the American people have to see so to stand in the way of congress Congress's legitimate power to find out what's going on. And what's he trying to stop information? That would be embarrassing to him that would be politically destructive to him. And that would undermine the rule. Right. So if you say constitutional crisis in that, you're not alone. I mean, how share chairman Jerry Nadler said that bow speaker Nancy Pelosi, they agree with you. But yet they are not ready to pull the trigger on impeachment. So if this is a constitutional crisis. How can Democrats not move forward with impeachment hearings with proceedings? Okay. This is what I think they should do. I mean, having lived through Watergate, which was the only successful impeachment ever effort ever undertaken. By congress because of president resigned, and that preceding was never attacked ever. I mean, it has withstood the test of time what you need to do is get the fact out first to the American people they need to see Don Mcgann, they need to see Donald Trump junior. They need to see how many times he's going to say. I don't remember they need to see Jared Kushner, how many times he's going to sit. They still be fighting. This was subpoenas in court. Well, they launched the proceedings to get information. They should launch the proceedings to have public hearings, which is what happened in Watergate. The Senate select committee and public hearings John dean testify. That's the equivalent of Don Mcgann that kind of set everything going we need to have a repetition that the American people should know. The fact they're not gonna read four hundred and forty pages of the mole report, very few people. Have I have the not going to do it? But they need to get those facts presented then you can start depending on the public response. Then you can start the inquiry, which is what? We did it in have. So a lot of people are drawing comparisons between you and congressman Alexandria, Cossio Cortez, obviously, your political outsiders when when you started. You the same smile that that they wide mouse smile UNC to house veteran when you came into the house. She honored you on Twitter writing before me there was she the first youngest shoe leather destroyer, subway campus, or no one's are coming either Queen of kings county, the honorable congresswoman Elizabeth Holtzman. Do you see yourself in her? Well, I see some similarities I see very excited that a young woman was elected. I when I was elected I didn't realize it could be the youngest woman and took forty two years for that regularly broken. I was very sad about that. Because we need the energy the excitement the idealism of young people in congress. So I'm really glad about that. I think it was great that she got elected with a grassroots with the grassroots support. That's how I won the political pundits gave me no chance gave her no chance. She was able to raise a little more money than I was. And we both had emission I want to stop the Vietnam war. I was idealistic. She won. To get social Justice. She's idealistic. So we need people like that. I'm not saying everybody has to be that way. God forbid, you know, in a way, he's many like us, but you need that kind of energy prodding reaching for new solutions. I think is really important. And I'm glad she's there. All right comes from wholesome. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you. Out front next. 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Tonight in the fight for twenty twenty ahead of mother's day this weekend. Kamala Harris is opening up about her relationship with her step children who she says, call her, mama. La king, LA is out front with a look at how Harris and other candidates are redefining motherhood and talking about it on the trail. In the heart of West Virginia. Senator Elizabeth Warren joined by her son, by the way, with the guy over in the blue shirt, that's my son, Alex, her experience as a mother part of her pitch to voters childcare never stopped being an issue for me like for so many working parents today. It was this weight I had to carry around every single day, and it never let up the motherhood identity once viewed as an albatross in twenty twenty is getting a makeover with a record number of women running for president. Senator Kamala Harris Mary to Doug 'em, Hof father of two children from a previous marriage Ella and coal, and I therefore have two children that are Colin Ella who are here, and they named me their mama and their mother, and yes, and their mother Kirsten is here who was a dear friend of mine, and we have a real modern family. The portrait of a modern candidate in a personal essay in honor of mother's day. Harris writes about the heartache of missing her step daughter's graduation for the 2017 James Komi testimony before the Senate intelligence committee. I am not perfect. Our kids are not perfect. My husband is not perfect. And I don't think that the American people want perfect Senator Amy klobuchar the CNN townhall explained how getting kicked out of the hospital twenty four hours after giving birth to her daughter who was born with a condition that made her unable to swallow made her fight back and become a lawmaker that was when I got hooked on public service because I could see that you could make a difference. To even joke about motherhood means backlash in twenty twenty that to award equipped about barely helping his wife with the kids prompting this public apology. Not only will I not say that again. But but it'll be much more thoughtful going forward really looking forward to getting a chance to say Hello today. Amy aerobics on the trail. She's doing the driving. Got little Henry with me Senator Kirsten gillibrand brings her children on the trail her mom status a credential as a candidate. I'm going to fight for people's kids as hard as I would fight for my own. I would've fight for their families and their communities. The mom candidates as well. As many of the dad candidates do not have any public events on Sunday. Erin, the comma Harris campaign says that she is going to take a rare day off on the campaign trail, so that she can spend mother's day as mama. All right. Thank you very much. Young and next Jeannie moss on Trump's love for a beautiful weather. I did get last night a very beautiful lead. If you just wrote me a beautiful letter. Hi, everyone. It's poppy Harlow on this week's episode of boss files. Melinda gates invites us on her personal journey. Why she's dedicating her life's work to achieving quality for all women to documents or path here in her new book the moment of lifts or message when we lift up women we lift up humanity plus from being one of the first female MBA employees at Microsoft to establishing a more equal partnership with her husband Bill Gates, and how she found her full self after having children we get into all of it. I sit down with Melinda gates in her hometown of Dallas, Texas, check it out today and have a great week. Night. Trump's obsession with beautiful things, especially love letters. Here's janey. We know President Trump is big on getting letters. But no wonder since this keeps happening. I did get last night a very beautiful letter from president. She just wrote me a beautiful letter that crazy Trump read one tweet stacking up love letters, like nobody else came on this latest one from China's president sheet memories, another beautiful letter keep his alongside cams that would be Kim Jong Hoon. He wrote me beautiful letters and their great letters. We fell in love, and though the love affair has hit a rocky patch. The president can always reread old letters from Cam. He wrote me two of the most beautiful letters. It's a beautiful piece of art an envelope. This enormous could cause dehydration just from licking it though. Someone Photoshop that to make it even bigger while that letter really makes Trump's hands look tiny. And then there was that other beauty. Japan's Prime Minister nominating. President trump. For the Nobel prize is the most beautiful five letter five page letter, the common wisdom may be that the penny is mightier than the sword. President Trump it's more beautiful with so much beauty and letters. No wonder the president doesn't Email. It's a beautiful litter. We appreciate Jeannie moves CNN. And then we fell in love New York. It's beautiful. Thanks for joining us. And don't forget you can watch show anytime anywhere. Just go to CNN. Go have a great weekend. A C three sixty starts right now.