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Hey, so we're talking about the Russell Westbrook thing this abusive fan in Utah. And we started getting text message Momo's infra for John star getting text messages from Michelle Beedle beads. What's going on? Mean just recently level of stupidity. Set has just become almost comical you got like that guy. Wasn't believable the first second. He started try to explain himself. I mean, judging a book by its cover might not be good for some. I've lived my whole life doing it. I feel quite comfortable knowing that that guy was lying, and as far as what you know, Westbrook. Sure, nobody wants to hear Cussing. It's not great. We all believe that we're gonna rise above all that good stuff. But you know, what it some point some people just snap. And if you're gonna try to sit there and tell me this guy and his wife for that matter because she chose to hang out with dude in life. And we've now learned from his tweets that he's lovely then. Yeah. They're just words. Nobody was physically attacked nobody was actually physically harmed. And then this guy wants to go to victim just about had it was victim playing especially when you're the one throwing the rocks. I I feel great about it. No. I mean, I think there are certain things that that will trigger. You. I understand. Why Russell Westbrook would have been triggered triggered by get down on your knees where you're supposed to be or whatever the hell that guy said I was just saying to Momo if somebody uses the f word to describe me, I can't be responsible for what comes next. I mean, there's just there's direct abusive behavior. It's it's one thing to heckle in a fun way. And it can be done. But then verbally abuse a player on his way onto the court or off the court is unacceptable in every way. Well, this is just as your classic keyboard warrior, who has obviously been obsessing over Russell Westbrook for quite some time. Now he'll wanting somebody to beat him up. What you the N word. He's just the just a garbage person. And now he wants to come out, and he try I mean, I'll give him that he tried to gain the sympathy of the nation. Unfortunately, the internet never loses and those. Tweaked routes wrote out there faster than I can remember in recent past usually still comes out, but it takes a couple of days. Their stuff was up there within the hour, and it integrates me. But now this guy is going to go out there, and this will be his claim to fame or infamy and amongst his friends. I'm sure that is wonderful. But I hope it others around him. Just kind of treat him the way he deserves to be treated after this. And Russell Westbrook will be punished by the league. I'm sure because you just can't do that at the end of the day. It's not a good look for the league. But I one hundred percent understand where he was coming from. And yes, Russell Westbrook is a little more hot headed the most. I'm a little more hot headed the most. I get that. So I really just I did the the amount of people that are like, hey, not understanding that this had a racial component to it. But I've also had people it saying, well, it was more homophobic than anything that was all. Yeah. We've reached some weird place where I have been a heckler. I have been threatened to be thrown out of a Rina's before I understand that. But heckling should never cross the line where you're just being a disgusting garbage human. And that's what happened here. So what are the rules of engagement with hecklers like you as a professional heckler? You know, you, you know, you the scoreboard you use the inability makes shots that night. The idea that their record is garbage that you're wasting this body. I mean, I want heckle Shawn Bradley didn't know I was sitting in front of his wife that turned weird real fast. So I get like I didn't ever addressed ad hominem attacks. It's not, you know, you don't talk about the family. I that's that's not even fun like that's just ignorant way of heckling. Heckling can be fun. It should be fun. But it's all about the game at the end of the day in the scoreboard at the end of it all is where you either wear loose. Would you say to show Radley? You know, he can't be eight feet tall. And not make a layup. That's pretty good. Yeah. That's good. And then Birdman tried to have thrown out of the Rena during the finals. But you know, what they were getting their bus kicked and managing only was a hero that day. That's not my fault. Oh that was like I think that's kind of what gets at the heart of this beads is like there there's room for heckling. That's part of why you buy ticket. That's part of how some people experience phantom, but there are lines. And there is there are certain social lines that you don't cross pretty much ever and let not in a fan athlete relationship or ever we've sort of lost touch with where those lines are. And I know you, and I experienced this on Twitter a lot there's certain lines that you cross that people crossed with us. And you're like, ooh, get to say that to me ever or do. I get to you. Or do. I d m you right? Like, I know we we are forced to bite our tongues on a daily basis. You know, I understand why Duran headache burner account. There are many days where I think how fun that would be in furnace. He had four. The need for to really just kind of dupe the system gonna argue with yourself a little bit, man. We're getting into the Franklin let territory here guys. Well, you know, it's funny. How's the jazz band? The dude. I mean, that's you know, if Dolan banning dudes for yelling out truth, then they the very least Utah needs to ban this do for just being garbage. So we were talking about this a little bit with, you know, Adam silver came out and did an interview I think with Bill Simmons about how players are very unhappy. Now, and one of the reasons is social media. And you know, we that's the thing about social media. You get a ton of hate no matter who you are if you have any sort of following. Yeah. You get a ton of hate. Why do you think it gets to NBA players? Oh, I think well because on the enforced person foremost, they are human it. Doesn't matter. How much money you have it doesn't matter that to the rest of the world seemingly have it all as we all know anybody who seems like they have almost definitely does not nobody does. I I can only personally say that. Yeah. There are days there were two years ago. There was a time where it affected me to the point where it was ruining personal relationships. It was sort of making my days become not very enjoyable, and it was all due to the words that were coming out of strangers. Now, if you can get to a place where you can sort of understand that none of the opinions of these human beings matter great, then you're much healthier for it. But as we all know, we are all wired so very differently. So for as many people as can just sort of let it roll off their back and not give a darn then there are just as many who have a really hard time. Not letting it affect them. No matter what they try to tell us. It's just it's a when it's all said and done twenty years from now. Look back on this chapter in humanity. I'll be curious to see what the overall damaging effects will end up being because it's a it's such a cesspool at times. I mean, I would say it's a cesspool more than it's not. And it's not for everybody and most people are on it. And that's sort of where the trouble lies all been there arguing with exit some arguing with eggs days. They are officially over. You know, it gives me those about social media's just like, we're all grown adults who are well paid and compensated for our troubles, right? Right. I think about kids in junior high and high school who get this stuff. Oh, man. What is this doing? We were doing junior high and high school. Yeah. Jeff Taylor would say some about skinny legs, and it would ruin my year in school now all over the internet. And I don't know how I deal with that. I don't see I feel really bad for teenagers these days because this is the thing that they were probably not equipped for I wonder if as a parent, I'm not a parent. Hey, you are you got like seven dogs. Yeah. I've only got I've only got too soon to be a third, but Momoh you've got a kid will you let a little Daniel beyond on Twitter. What age is the official story on a weight. But I also think that like he's a baby it's too seems like five months. But he is already kind of like an Instagram so everybody he is all over social media. I see her Instagram account. He started like an instant famous already, right? He know like little little Chris Trey little Chris, Paul. And I think he like far more popular than me already in in instigating. I loved he's great. He is he is. Did you yesterday leaving me off those co host Betty? Betty was I bet he was screaming his head off. But what is what is Twitter age? You know, I think part of me that says. I want to wait till he's older. But then there's another part that this is the world we live in best to develop your immunity to it sooner. And maybe just have a lot of conversations about it. That's probably right or maybe it's gone by the time he of age. I mean, the only hope the whole thing just implode. What's phone age for a kid? Yeah. Like, what age do does your kid? Get a phone thirteen say that Mike founded my too old. That's probably too old it probably five I have no idea. Individual. When I was when I was at like, I say junior high or just lobbing in thoughts. Okay. So junior high I had a couple pimples. And I was like very upset about this. And I was really embarrassed and stuff, and my mom said to me something that I always come back to which I think is how you have to deal with social media Ramona. Nobody's looking at your pimple. They're just worrying that you're noticing. There's. How I was like good. So very wise. Sooner you can realize that and and let that sink in the better, we all are social media. And all that Senator what is one is just what it's really done is just got us all to this place where people feel emboldened to say the worst things that pop into their head out loud. Exposes people closes who you are. But it's also a really bad thing in that. We've lost our sense of decorum, and how to treat each I think what we've seen is the tweets lead to actual saying fans out loud. And it's like when you say enough things behind a keyboard, your emboldened to say directly. Yahoo somebody and that's where decorum and politeness and decency go out the door. Yeah. But I do I do think Russell a, you know in part of his post-game common. He said that guy never says that to him should he just randomly run on the street, and that is part of the whole keyboard warrior spiky. It's also running games type, whatever you want us all kinds of foul. Disgusting language in personal tax. And it's also something to be doing while you're in an arena where you know, your protected, and Russell Westbrook or whoever the player is has everything to lose. Well, you really don't. Now. I believe that that guy never would have the cojones is to say. Any of that stuff? What he tweeted what he said, none of it to Russell's face. And that is sort of why all of this is just a frustrating time to be alive because everyone thinks they're tough and everyone wants to get their opinion out there, whether we care or not. But when it comes down to it, then say it to your faith. I've got a guy come to the studio when we did sports nation who had talked so much discussing smacked me, and then came to visit the set on the to me until I figured it out and wanted nothing to picture. You got to be kidding. You're listening to Caspian Los Angeles beats what do you think of our Lakers? Well, that's a very open ended question. Yeah. I think it'll be a good off season and many things will happen. And I honestly I'm I wasn't in the pool of people that was super super high hopes. I thought this was supposed to be a bit of a rebuild as LeBron get settled and people start to come away. So I think everything's exactly where I thought it would be I'm not overly disappointed. I think this is about right maze. There is actually tape of Beatles. Saying this back in July. That's timber. I even. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not just so, you know, I just seem crazy. So you see for me? I'm not sure that I trust the front office to make the right arms this summer. I mean, you know, to to sign LeBron and then to go in order, I think Casey p land Stevenson, Michael Beasley, javale McGee to me those were bad decisions and then complicated, by the fact that they traded an improving invites a zoo bots for Mike Moscow, LA right at the trade deadline, this to me that makes no sense either. I just have lost confidence until I see. Otherwise, imagine Johnson around Palinka. I think that's a completely fair place to be mentally, you know, in any relationship until I see some change. I don't know why I'm gonna believe otherwise it's sort of how we are as fans were foolish because every year we continue to think, oh, he's going to change. And if it doesn't we we go right back. But I, you know, I think they'll have I think they understand that this off season is a huge deal. And I I think they really expected the Anthony Davis thing to play out differently. I think the was a huge mistake. Obviously. I didn't. And it's not even a hindsight. I thought when it happened that it was a typo. I thought why would you why would you get rid of this guy up until the trade literally he was the talk of LA radio because he's been doing so. Well, and so I thought well that's a weird thing to do. But I think they know I think what's going to be interesting. If if it is true, these rumors are true that no big superstars wanna come out. Here is going to be interesting. And I I get the sent MoMA you you you're in the middle of this. Do you get the sense that there's a big superstar fish? That's ready to come in not really. I think there's a there's there is really really hard to read quite Leonard. And I think that yeah. Because he I mean, do you knew him once sorta kinda? Right. So and I wrote a whole big deep dive on him. And that Shad to me why Leonard is this laugh. I always always have it. Locked and loaded. It's. It it it it does kind of say everything. No, right. Because like he really hasn't ever shown who he is what he's about said what he thinks all that much out loud. And that's that's an issue. Right. When you're trying to decipher somebody's moves and who's calling the shots here. Who's making decisions for him and see how much how much is he involved. But I think a lot of this will come down to how the eastern playoffs shape up how they finish the top four teams all have a ton at stake and two and three of them will be disappointed, right? Unless you think somebody else had those top four is going to go. The final note three of the top four teams in the east. Have major superstars on them who were approaching free agency who will be disappointed in the way their season ends. And I think that is a huge story line going into these playoffs. But I also think if you're the Lakers, and you're the clippers and you're the Knicks or the nets teams that have tried to carve out two or three max star to to max pots, or at least one or two MAC spots. The summer. You know, that's that has historically shown to be not the best way of team building. The only team that's ever pulled that off his Miami of signing three great players in one year or two great players and trading for another that that that really is hard to make happen as a as a free agent play. Most super teams are constructed either through the draft or through traits. Yup. And not necessarily just creating cap space and hoping created Cavs is creating a longer runway to to get your fans to stay stay along with, you know, hey beach. Thanks for thanks for calling in. Thanks that guys. Yeah. Absolutely. Watch we show beetle in the NBA countdown crew on ESPN Wednesday when or who who's winning when the one team plays the other teams that will be important countdown tomorrow. We're just on back today. Sunday, Monday on ABC there. They're watching it. Bye. All right. It's Nike very much to Michelle Beedle, just got news. The Rams in the process of rebuilding their offensive line. And it will not include Roger soft Sappho old who has just signed a four year old year deal with the Tennessee titans. Tennessee titans for years forty four million dollars. How much is guaranteed? I've let me see. And also the markets Joyner went to the Oakland Raiders. They'll went to the raiders Joyner was disappointment. I think last year. It does not say how much guaranteed Eric Weddell? He talked to a while ago is the guy that takes over for for lamarcus Joyner. So I got a question for you Momo whatnot Mace. I'm giving up coffee. Okay. This is time this year, and we're in March. Just saying I can I can be a little sketchy on stuff. I can I can be sketchy nervous for you. I got a couple of times when I did a cleanse. And it was really bad half a Cup of coffee today, and I still am overly wired. Okay. So you can just lessen the Mana coffee that you have a half a Cup. Yeah. I was pregnant I had to really cut back 'cause you're not allowed to have more than Joe, right? Yeah. You can have two hundred milligrams a day, which is like a like a cop if that and not like cold brew cobras like four times. This is cold group. Oh, hold much caffeine is cold brew. And it's. Nitro claw my gosh. Okay. Think of that. As like the difference between having a beer and having a shot of whiskey. Really? Yes. It's much different that much stronger been drinking two cups a day. Is that a lot at the lot dude? Because I come out of here, just like flying. Yeah. Yeah. And you think of that as like a shot of coffee a shot of coffee. Okay. Well, I'm definitely dialing back. Yeah. Okay. Here in Torino system is probably not happy show me what happened at the airport. Oh, yeah. Think about that. We don't want to tell the story. I'll tell you some of it. Yeah. It's a long Norma Ray thing along Norma Ray thing like you're a union organizer new stand on a table. Is that what you're talking about? Should I remember about Norma Ray? I mean, it's a long Twitter rant that. I went on and a bunch of working moms will definitely relate to it. And I think that we own the working mom market here on Mason. And that is why you sign one region, right? We're looking for in ratings. Yeah. Don't you think? Yes. The working mom comes down short way. Okay. Okay. I'll try. Okay. We'll do it next. I don't know. Now, I think just bragging. I. Yeah. I haven't won thirty see if you see if you can do one thirty Mars Aachen part talk invite Marc spears just had a really interesting tweedy sent out. And apparently, it's part of a peace. He did for the undefeated. And the takeaway here is I completely lost. There. It is Mark Speir says we should all insist that a zero tolerance policy needs to be implemented at arenas in the face of misconduct by fans players don't have the luxury of being able to unilaterally ban, unruly fans from the arena's, Allah, James Dolan, the arenas therefore have to do a better job of insulating. Our players and that is calm. I completely agree with that. I agree. What doesn't sound like you? But that I it doesn't sound like you agree. I see. Whenever use the word, zero tolerance. I see where we can get into trouble like re 'cause why zero tolerance for what abusive language. Okay. What's abusive language? Well, I think we just saw an example of that's a good example. However, there are lot of example, like Beatles said. Well, this is the only one we know of. Yeah. You're eight feet tall. And you should be able to make a lamp. That's funny. Finding you don't get on. It isn't this debate. We're having in comedy right now. It is the debate. We're having a comedy. I don't ever want to excuse racist or abusive language, and I think that you know. All right. So road of you know, like the supreme court adjudicated pornography. What it's gonna be. It's. Biography. It's. Now. No when I see it, but doesn't every arena have to make those determinations for themselves. Don't you think the red coach the red coach should have gotten this guy? I alter -cation you think they should have gotten a guy. Blot? Well, okay. So Beato, you're you're seven feet tall. You should be able to make a layup. Now to me. That's funny funny, but years somebody who can take a joke. How did Shawn Bradley feel about it didn't sound like his wife liked it shoot a made the layup? Right. But like to me, there's like we're getting into a territory where like if you have if you have language like that, you don't think we can all agree on a a line. You think we can all agree on anything this day and age are they quicken? All agree. What is abusive? I don't I think you and me in. Los don't believe Shawn Bradley, you're seven feet tall. You gotta make lamp is abusive. Yeah. But who do you want making that the semi that is standard issue has? So who is high in the makes you laugh, maybe laugh laugh to write? This doesn't make me laugh. This makes me cringe. I to what happened with Russell west, and I feel badly for Russell Westbrook. So we. So you can't just what I've learned is that you cannot just say abusive language, you have to really spell. It out. Spell out. What abusive is any language with a abusive or belittling, racial, connotation, homophobic, connotation, whatever you wanna say base of gender, sex, sexual orientation, whatever it is. But do we stop short of appearances? Do we stop short abusive language about appearances high? I mean what what's okay to make fun of? I mean, this this is where we get into the issue with comedy now. Like, can you go, right? Let's go to Marc spears right now who just sent this tweet. A Mark is this part of a piece you're working on for the undefeated. Yeah. Yeah. The working progress. But I'm I'm talking to ya. So I can't right right now got it. There you go. So you think there's okay, man. I hear you today. No. No. I well. Yeah. There should be. You're right. We need to lighten up around here. Mark. So so Marco Momo good. Your your tweet was that there should be zero tolerance policy in the players. Should be insulated. Explain. The words Michelle Roberts, the executive director of the players association. And I I think what she wants to see and I talked to several different people today. Just you know, the fans have to be involved in this too. If somebody is saying something out of pocket, then toss him out get tell them to go, and you know, as a talked to Kenyon Martin earlier, and he said, look if someone booze fine if someone says, I'm I saw fine whatever, but to cross the line say, something racial say something really personal. That's that's not cool. That's not acceptable. So, you know, a lot of times we see this in sports seeing something say something, but that's more. So like from violet standpoint of easy, somebody with a bagged, it looks, you know, well, if you hear something you should say something to cause I think a lot of times players here things and then look into the crowd and see a thousand faces. You know? So I I do think that not only does there need to be better security watching these things and dealing with these things, but the fans have to take a part of it too. And and be willing to step up and say, hey, this guy right here is the one that said that pocket they need to go. And once they see that, you know, you could spend five hundred dollars on a ticket and get kicked off saying something stupid. I bet you a lot less of that will happen. When there is accountability in there are consequences. I think we'll see a lot. We'll we'll finally start to see just a change in behavior and a reinforcement of decorum. My issue Mark is is an and I like, I'm wishy one the concept of it. But I think the execution of it has to be really well thought out, and we have to think about who is making the decision about what is abusive language. Let's parse that even further what type of abuse of laying low we'll draw on Michelle Beedle, Michelle vetoes, just on an she wants heckled. Shawn bradley. She says she's a professional heckler by saying you're seven feet tall. You should be able to make a layup. Now to me. That's funny. I don't know how Shawn Bradley feels about that. And I don't think it falls into this category. But who draws the line? Well, I mean, I think some racial draws line right personal drugs. I mean, he is seven feet. So I guess that's not that's factual true. You know? But you you know, what draws the line come on there. I mean, somebody you and me new, but like like like Kenyon Martin said somebody called him to wear during the game. They they've they've you know made monkey sounds during the game. That's on the line right over the top. So we know we know what that is. Yeah. We know what that is somebody saying all your terrible. I heard one Ryan stiff going into game with the nuggets. And and transit. Oh, brian. You're still in the league and that may Bryant bad. But people laugh, you know, it wasn't. He had played it. Okay. So you know, what? I mean, you use the word way, we know what that is. We like, you be Steve Mason, who are I guess coastal liberal elites can you like I'm just saying it's gonna it's gonna that's gonna change from city to city every Nudo arena. St. state political Glasswork, why is Utah so bad. There's so many incidents so Utah. Yeah. I I think they're number one on the list from what I hear from several players. I think part of it is did a closest to the floor one shoe. I did a story about what it's like, you guys know about the seating arrangement. What it's like to be black playing for the jazz a whole lot of black people around there. So and try black folks they say the game, you know, and there's also some talking or watching the day, some some education and some naive, and and and just I remember hearing this, and this I as the sounds terrible saying that story, but in writing my story about what it's like to be black playing for the jazz, a restaurant owner of a southern restaurant told me that was a Mormon family that came into his restaurant on Martin Luther King day and wanted to celebrate the king holiday, so they did it by buying fried chicken, bud. Wow. 'cause they thought that. Buying fried chicken was was something celebrate black people. Oh. Oh, wow. Yeah. So there's a there's a, and of course, we were talking about where you go from place to place now is different than education of being around people of different races. I, you know, I grew up in San Jose. We had everything, you know. I mean, not being mixed or or of color wasn't the norm. But as I travel more around the country, you know, there are a lot of people that you I mean, you only know what you know, and your environment may cause you to, you know, well, one people that are racist. You know that that that usually born from somewhere, right, but your environment can lead to that too. All right. Hey, listen. I'm I'm looking for that article right there. I've got it. I'm going to re tweet the article about what it's like to be black in play for the Utah Jazz because I think it's timely and and thanks for coming on, man. We appreciate it. Thanks for have me guys. All right, cool. There's Marc spears Mark j spears, and I just found that article. Mike really good writer for them to feed is he's not afraid to awful lot. Is he? Yeah. He's on the got up early. Yeah. No. He's he's there. Wow. Good for him getting up that early on the west coast. No, he goes. Oh, yeah. No. He goes in studio. Oh, okay. Yeah. So he flies back east. Yeah. I mean, there's something cultural here. Yeah. The and and legislate culture man, spider Mitchell, just released a statement. And it goes like this. I am personally hurt by the incident at the game on March eleventh as a black man living in a community. I love and playing on a team that gives me the opportunity to live out my dreams this incident hits close to home, racism, and hate speech hurts us all in. This is not the first time something like this has happened in our arena, the Utah that I have come to love is welcoming and inclusive and last night's incident is not an. Of of our fan base. We don't want to create a negative reputation for athletes who potentially may want to come to Utah. I wanna thank my team in the NBA for quickly responding to this hateful incident, and for helping to make our Rena a place where all fans and players are welcome. Now. Here's a here's a question. For you Momo and think about this because this is a TS. Cac should the league will the league? Punish Russell Westbrook. Who that's coming up next? Mason in Ireland Momo's infra Johnny SPN life in sixteen days. You know, we'll be talking about Momo. What's that baseball baseball? Yeah. I just got spring training. Did you caught the dodgers? A couple of times as nice, I gotta tell you. I have got a good. Yeah. I got a good vibe what what's your vibe on Kershaw? I think that he is the kind of pitcher who came up people forget, Greg Maddox was there. Clayton was right. Sure. And I think he recognizes where he is now in his career the fact that he took the shorter term extension shows a recognition of like his market value. But like he wasn't just trying to make a point like Bryce Harper was I don't know if Bryce did himself any favors for that ESPN the magazine article. Did you read that? No, I did not was all. All upset baseball. Why you had to wait so long? Oh, well, no. I look I think that's a fair issue. I mean BUSTER only I listen to his podcast yesterday. Buster only was talking about the fact that there is so little trust between players and owners right now I want to circle back to that. But I yeah. Russell Westbrook will the league should the league fine him for what went down with the racist fan and Utah. Yeah. I think that the league has a policy that you're not allowed to threaten fans and is justified as Russell wasn't standing up for himself. There was a way that he could have stood up for himself without actually making physical threat. I don't I don't blame him for doing that. I understand why he did it. We've all lost our cool. I have. I know, you know, I there was I feel like I I have done it a few times that I'm the first to say. Yeah. You know what I lost? My I went one step too far. And usually you kind of know that. And so to me threatening physical violence is where you start to lose your argument. And I think Russell should be able to stand up to him. But I think he probably crossed a line, and he'll get fined for it. And he'll just have to, you know, either extend the comments or extend the issue or let it go. But he this happened with him before. Oh, really? Yeah. I do make a point stand up for all the all the players who've been hit with with racial slurs over the years and say, you know, what the players have appoint here. It's you know, I know this is this is a it's a false comparison stand. First thing I thought of is like, you know, I was totally for Colin Kaepernick. I was I was inspired by what he did inspired by the week carried himself throughout that. But then he started like that he said he didn't vote, and then he wore the pig socks, and the and there was just like things that like just made it harder to yet. But I think far more far more he contributed to the greater good. Agreed. But I'm saying is is like sometimes you're not the perfect. There's not the perfect moment of the perfect spokesperson or the whatever it is. Because when you're going to be that guy like all AllState. I'll take a stand. You wanna have you wanna be beyond reproach? You wanna be be? All right. But what's the expression? Don't let the don't. Perfection. Be the enemy of the good. You're right. There's two sides, right? There are two sides of this like, for example, Colin Kaepernick, those two incidents are cited. And by the way, Shane Kiesel. Also was on capitol on his tweet source. Of course, he was but you look at what Colin Kaepernick was able to achieve. I mean, he he started his own social Justice initiative the league because of him started an enormous social Justice initiative, and you know, to it he became the face a Nike. He became he became the face of a of a counterculture one that recognizes that there is still social injustice in this culture, greatly restall racial injustice, interstate Russ where I think he crossed the line by threatening physical violence. It's on a much worse scale with the fan, but like in his own telling of the history of event, he sees the fancies himself as this victim. Right. He he's presenting. Russell is the guy who will. I'm going to sue. I'm victim. I mean. Yeah. Come on. What I think they're what we're talking about. Both instances though, is a lack of sort of personal accountability a lack of decorum a lack of understanding where even like, even when you're fired up like the other day. I went to my yoga class. I was late. Shocker. Oh shocker. So you Jonker rushed in. I was wrong. Schaller their defeats the purpose of yoga, correct? You're you're completely at a morning, right. Trying to get their getting up rushing out the door. I I literally spilled a bunch of breast milk all over myself, and that one of them setting because it takes a lot to pump that stuff. Take your word for him. Take your word for juggling. I was trying to get all my stuff ready to go to the game. The Laker game from the yoga class right afterwards. It was just doing too much. My typical willing dervish whatever it might typical. I showed up. I was like exactly eleven minutes late. And they said, I'm sorry. We can't let you in. I I agree with them. And I would phrase. Adopt us what I'm saying disturbing somebody else's yoga practice. And I said, my mom already has all my stuff set up. I understand your policy is there. It's not a promise it won't be that disruptive already set up. And they said I'm sorry this our policy and for like three minutes. I was upset. I didn't lose my cool though. And I got in the car, and I went home, and I just said, you know, what I get what they're saying. Like I was late. I have to be if. I mean, if accountability yoga class, and I'm ten minutes in pissed off when there's a bunch of rushing around. I I didn't like it. But there is a recognition like, yeah. You were wrong. Yeah. Like could they could they have been like? Yeah, we're sorry for you new mom that you spilled all over yourself. You're juggling. The you know. Yeah, they could you know, had a heart. That's not the forty one other people that are in that class that their issue. I mean, personally, I don't think it would have been disruptive because I was all set up. But it doesn't matter that the thing is they have a policy. I knew about the policy was asking them to bend it. And you have to look in the mirror, and you have to be like, you know, why do you think the Utah Jazz have made no official statement about like? I don't like I mean, they they have not jumped on this. Donovan Mitchell has the players union has Russell Westbrook spoke to a last night. You know, we just talked to Mark's everybody is waiting for something and the jazz organization have got to say something, I agree. So I think it's actually more incumbent on the jazz to handle this that anybody because as Donovan Mitchell said in his statement like this is not the Utah. I know we don't want to get a reputation they have a reputation. This is what they've got to deal with. And I think this is an organizational issue. It's a social issue. I'm sure it's tricky for them. You know, the other guys are lawyer up already. I mean, I I don't know what you can. He's just making whatever this'll blow hardy gun. Okay. Some is not going to hire an attorney. You know, there is a thing on the back of your ticket. There's a fan code of conduct. You about any time. Yeah. Yeah. Then I would I would hope that the jazz would come out and say, yeah. Shane kiesel. You're done. Yeah. You're out. Yeah. So I mean, I just think it's it's like there's this part in life where we all have to get to this place where we say like, I'm sorry. I made a mistake or I went too, far or whatever it is. Like, you have to have a little bit of personal accountability when it's your fault. Or when you went a little too, far you have to just not always make it somebody else's fault. Like, you're not the victims Yankees. Will you provoked this you triggered fate? All right. Come back actually went to actually speak to the issue of the Bryce Harper interview, which I did not read expresses summit expresses. The fact you logged in baseball is gonna major problem in Greg to bring you in this too. Baseball's got a major problem, and it's going to lead to either a strike or lockout in twenty twenty one. And you know, what players made to do it this time. I am completely with the players. I'll explain coming up. I don't know. Now, I think you just bragging. I. Yeah. I have a one thirty see if you see if you could do one thirty Mars Aachen part talking by Marc spears, just had a really interesting tweedy sent out an apparently it's part of a peace. He did for the undefeated. And the takeaway here is completely lost. There. It is Mark Speir says we should all insist that a zero tolerance policy needs to be implemented at arenas in the face of misconduct by fans players don't have the luxury of being able to unilaterally ban, unruly fans from the arena's, Allah, James Dolan, the arenas therefore have to do a better job of insulating. Our players, and that is I completely agree with that. I agree. What doesn't sound like you do? But that I doesn't sound like you agree. I see whenever use the word zero tolerance. I see where we can get into trouble light. Because why zero tolerance for what abusive language? Okay. What's abusive language? Well, I think we just saw an example of that's a good example. However, there are a lot, of example, like Beatles said. This is the only one we know of. Yeah. You're eight feet tall. And you should be able to make a lab. That's funny. Funding on it isn't this debate. We're having in comedy right now, it is the debate. We're having in comedy. I don't ever want to excuse racist or abusive language, and I think that you know. Okay. All right. So road of you know, look the supreme court adjudicated pornography. What it's gonna be. What I see it, but doesn't every arena have to make those determinations for themselves. Don't you think the red coach the red coach should have gotten this guy at first altercation? You think they should have gotten a guy? Well, okay. So Beato, you're you're seven feet tall. You should be able to make a layup. Now to me. That's funny funny, but years somebody who can take a joke. How did Shawn Bradley feel about it in his wife liked it shoot a made the layup? Right. Like to me. There's like we're getting into a territory where like if you have if you have language like that. Like, you don't think we can all agree on a a line? You think we can all agree on anything this day and age are they quicken? All agree. What is abusive? I don't I think you and me in Los Angeles. Believe Shawn Bradley, you're seven feet tall. You gotta make lamp is abusive. Yeah. But who do you want making that the semi that is standard issue has? So who is high in the makes you laugh? Maybe laugh, maybe left to right. This doesn't make me laugh. This makes me cringe. Happy to what happened with Russell west. And I feel badly for Russell Westbrook. Fo- we so you can't just what I've learned is that you cannot just say abusive language, you have to really spell. It out. Spell out. What abusive is any language with a abusive or belittling, racial, connotation, homophobic, connotation, whatever you wanna say base of gender, sex, sexual orientation, whatever it is. But do we stop short of appearances? Do we stop short abusive language about appearances height? I mean what what's okay to make fun of? I mean, this this is where we get into the issue with comedy now. Like durbar can you go, right? Let's go to Marc spears right now who just sent this tweet. A Mark is this part of a piece you're working on for the undefeated. Yeah. Yeah. The working progress when I'm talking to ya. So I can't right right now got it. There you go. So you think there's okay, man. I hear you after today. None. I well. Yeah. You know, there should be you're right. We need to lighten up around here. Mark. So so Marco Momo good. Your your tweet was that there should be zero tolerance policy in the players. Should be insulated. Explain. Would've words Michelle Roberts, the executive director of the players association. And I I think what she wants to see. And and I talked to several different people today to you know, the fans have to be involved in this too. If somebody is saying something out of pocket, then toss them out get dumb to go. And you know, as I talked to Kenyon Martin earlier, and he said, look if someone booze fine if someone says, I'm I saw fine whatever, but to cross the line say, something racial say something really personal. That's that's not cool. That's not acceptable. So, you know, a lot of times we see this in sports seeing something say something, but that's more. So like from violet standpoint, you see somebody with a bagged it looks, you know, well, if you hear something you should say something to cause I think a lot of times players here things and then look into the crowd and see a thousand faces. Yeah. So I I do think that not only does there need to be better security watching these things and dealing with these things, but the fans have to take a part of it too. And be willing to step up and say, hey, this guy right here is the one that said that there's pocket they need to go. And once they see that, you know, you could spend five hundred dollars on a ticket and get kicked off saying something stupid. I bet you a lot less than that will happen when there is accountability. And there are consequences. I think we'll see a lot. We'll we'll finally start to see just a change in behavior, and it enforcement of decorum. My issue Mark is is an and I like, I'm with you on the concept of it. But I think the execution of it has to be really well thought out, and we have to think about who is making the decision about what is abusive language. Let's parse I'd even further what type of abuse of we'll through Michelle Beedle, Michelle Beatles, just on and she wants heckled. Bradley. She says she's a professional heckler by saying you're seven feet tall. You should be able to make a layup. Now to me. That's funny. I don't know how Shawn Bradley feels about that. I don't think it falls into this category. But who draws the line? I mean, I think some racial draws a line, right? Yeah. Personal drugs. I mean, he is seven feet. So I guess that's not that's factual true. You know? But you you know, what draws the line come on there. I mean, I do. But like like Kenyon Martin said somebody called him to an wear during the game. They they've they've you know made monkey sounds during the game. That's on the line over top. So we know we know what that is. Yeah. Yeah. We know what that is. Somebody's saying all your terrible. I heard one Brian stiff going into game with the nuggets. And and a fan said O'Brien, you're still in the league in may Bryant bad. But people laugh, you know, it wasn't. He had played much. Okay. So you know, what? I mean, you use the word way, we know what that is. We like, you be Steve Mason, who are I guess coastal liberal elites can you like I'm just saying it's gonna it's gonna that's gonna change from city to city every new arena state to state political Glasswork. Why is Utah so bad there? So many incidents so Utah. Yeah. I I think they're number one on the list from what I hear from several players. I think part of it is did a closest to the floor one too. I did a story about what it's like, you guys know about the seating arrangement. What it's like to be black playing for the jazz a whole lot of black people around there. So and try black folks they say the game, you know. And then there's also some talking or watching the day, some some education and some naive, and and and just I remember hearing this, and this I as the sounds terrible saying that story, but in writing my story about what it's like to be black playing for the jazz, a restaurant owner of a southern restaurant told me that was a Mormon family that came into his restaurant during our Martin Luther King day and wanted to celebrate the king holiday, so they did it by buying fried chicken. Wow. 'cause they thought that buying fried chicken was was something celebrate black people. Oh. Oh, wow. Yeah. So there's a there's a cer-. And of course, we were talking about what you go from place to place house different education of being around people of different races. I, you know, I grew up in San Jose. We had everything, you know. I mean, not being mixed or or of color wasn't the norm. But as I travel more around the country, you know, there are a lot of people that you I mean, you only know what you know, in Europe virement may cause you to, you know, well, one people that are racist. You know that that does usually born from somewhere, right, but your environment can lead to that too. All right. Hey, listen. I'm t-. I'm looking for that article right into their. I've got it. I'm going to re tweet the article about what it's like to be black in play for the Utah Jazz because I think it's timely and and thanks for coming on, man. We appreciate it. Thanks for have you guys. All right, cool. There's Marc spears Mark j spears, and I just found that article. Mine's a really good writer for them to feed is he's not afraid to awful lot. Is he? Yeah. He's on the got up early. Yeah. No. He's he's there. Wow. Good for him getting up that early on the west coast. No, he goes. Oh, yeah. No. He goes in studio. Oh, okay. Yeah. So he flies back east. Yeah. I mean, there's something cultural here. Yeah. The and and legislate culture man, spider Mitchell, just released a statement. And it goes like this. I am personally hurt by the incident at the game on March eleventh as a black man living in a community. I love and playing on a team that gives me the opportunity to live out my dreams this incident hits close to home, racism, and hate speech hurts us all in. This is not the first time something like this has happened in our arena, the Utah that I have come to love is welcoming and inclusive and last night's incident is not. Addictive of our fan base. We don't want to create a negative reputation for athletes who potentially may want to come to Utah. I want to thank my team in the NBA for quickly responding to this hateful incident, and for helping to make our Rena a place where all fans and players are welcome. Now. Here's a here's a question. For you Momo and take about this. Because this is a TS K should the league will the league. Punish Russell Westbrook. Who that's coming up next? Mason Ireland Momo's infra Johnny SPN life.

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