LADS#206 - The Soccer Cooligans


You know you they know this thing of you are listening to you. Lot Americans arkins discussing soccer or lads. PODCASTS this is the Monday special episode and we have our guest guest ever here on on this show. Is the soccer cogan. What's up guys? What's up as a go good I'm really excited. Mike Law for these shows. No I get a lot of success. You know slack for that. I usually drink whatever's in the fridge currently I'm Jay Black Jerry Whitelaw which you know to each his own poison. I suppose That's why you know it's it's easy. I don't feel like you know bloated afterward. They're Nice. I used to be very against the Seltzer. Now I'm like Lacroix it's you know it's it's a a lot of fun so you guys are currently down in Florida for the What's called ICC futures? You were talking a little inside the episode a little about that before before but if you want to tell people exactly what you're doing down to Florida that'd be really cool Garissa the ICU. Just the International Champions Cup most people know as like throughout the summers ars when like the Big European teams common play Here in the US. It's like a competitive series of friendlies. Very much yeah but so we're at the IDC futures which is the same concept. But this is for the youth teams the academy team. So this is these are like the fifteen boys and fourteen gene girls And they play against each other in environment. That is All all expense paid trip off for the kids they get treated needed like superstars. They get a a ton of swag. It's like a really cool thing that that was the biggest surprise seeing how happy these are to be here and be treated like professional athletes as you know and we're here to while we were MC me events our doing a bunch of stuff with with the kids like shooting videos and now we're also looking to start getting into third party ownership the job lucidly ship Youtube. We're hooligans agency. Oh my God why be missing. I didn't mention that you guys have are hilarious on social media. You make sure to follow them at the cool again is that you're at on twitter At soccer hooligans soccer hooligans on twitter and instagram guys are also on I tunes spotify everywhere. I mean if you're a soccer fan listen. This is the collaboration. No one knew they ever wanted so on Jerry. Happy to be a part of it so before I get into soccer stuff I do. Have I have some beef with you guys. You talk a lot of crap about Wiwa on twitter and as a South Jersey you know Philadelphia resident for some time before I moved up here to the Greater New England area. What's up guys like? What what can we do to help? I see a lot of this like Taylor. Ham Talk and whatnot. What's what's up with this Wa wa hate? We all know it's daily hand while was trash unless it's to come rules man. Are you a hoagie hero. Zero what you guys call it. I'm cool with sub. I'm cool with Hoagy but hero is the official term. Guys are obviously big pizza guys. I don't really have you. You know any good pizza here in New England you have spy and you're in Brooklyn Right. That's where like the mainstay of the show is. Yeah Yeah Yeah Okay do you have. What your favorite joint I would say industry Williamsburg you're in Williamsburg? Brooklyn is absolutely incredible Europe by Boston. You've got Santa Appeals over by the airport you got AIDS REGGIA which is in the north side. That's it's really famous superbeets in unfortunately guys also like to eat Greek pizza which is it's the Wa wa of pizzas Come on man like you guys probably like sheets come come on. I can't do this is it. Is it just because it has the stereotype being gassed Asian food. I don't get it man staple is really confusing for us as Dino's because y was kind of what we call plus the plus. Is You go. There is a nation sandwiches winter. The bus game. All right well I find I'm GONNA move on because like I can't. I'm not going to dwell on this because it's going to hurt my heart but I wanNA talk some soccer. Obviously you guys are big. MLS guys you're at the final this year right. Yeah I was. That was that whole experience. It was incredible Seattle Man. I'll that whole is. It felt the entire diner city. was there for the game was really cool. The earthquakes when they scored goals as you physically feel the world shake underneath the real thing it was ever offer Chris Simon Century Lincoln Yeah I think it was. They were more people there than like you know when they attend seahawks games. It was pretty intense and you can clearly see how important commanders are To that city so yeah I mean we that was already our forth. MLS Cup and they've been on the second that they've won that we'd been tagged but it's it's like you know who the Good Luck charm. My obviously so yeah. What do you all been your favorite wondered? You feel as though. Is there a favorite of the ones you've been to. I'd like I would say this is if not number one number one A. It's really hard between this and last year's Atlanta Anna was that tailgate was unbelievable. It felt like a coming out party for soccer in America. Erica Linda Yeah Seattle. It felt like we were in a weird world where soccer has always mattered. You know in America so it's hard to compare the two but I would say the two of those will they still like sort of I get butterflies thinking about both of those cups. My next question's going to be like on our show we talk mostly premier league and world world soccer's We always jokes were big. MLS guys but we're not really nice more of just being sarcastic convince me what is your pitch. MLS has grown immensely. I been trying to watch more games. What is your pitch to say like a lot of our fans are trying to get more into like? Mls what is your head just like. Why should we care more about this compared to like the European top five weeks before local local at the that that would be the first kind of message I mean we talk about We sort of made that conscious choice to or from relief. But I'm saying he's he's innocent clamp. Hey I'm a governor myself one baby so So we we made the conscious choice like you know a lot of people kind of with down American Eric in soccer they put down. MLS If the butt of a joke right where we stand up comedians right so we constantly even amongst peers did not sounds that. Make Fun of the sport but then he just talk about American soccer. You like there's going to be even worse like you're GonNa get but the more we were around a around players around You know the teams and just people who work for the League Lou. People are really trying to make sport relevant in this country and really the Mesler do it is like you know to get people to go see games and the early easy complaint is of equality or whatever but what outside of the top ten teams onto in the permanently. Garbage seems absolutely watson run. I don't want to hear a God damn thing. I'm a big Fan. I don't really know what they're you know. Mascot is still. It's still very confusing. But that's very that's very fair and I liked that you know and you guys like the playoff system system. Compared to the point system at the end of the season the title. I've I've kind of grown to fall in love with the idea of the playoffs because it's undeniably fun whether you think I think it's fair or not or it should just be a single single table whether you like that or not. Doesn't matter revolt it is fun. It is certainly fun and it's just something so late about how insane American soccer is is Tam. There's game and I when I say piggyback on what Christie said is you don't have to pick one you can still like Chelsea Elsie and also like rebel New Yorker or and they did it or whatever you can also like American soccer. You don't have to be one yes you could stop saying make you know what I mean. Oh my God I love that. I'm a Philadelphia Union fan by default. I was actually born in Chester. Pennsylvania at Cooper Cooper Hospital. It's a big Jimmy. Kurt van as Ginger. Love Me Jimmy Curtains so he's actually We got passes one day. I don't know how we pulled that off. You're actually in the press box. One sometime got to go meet Jimmy Afterwards Bedoya and everyone in the locker room and all the time. I'm just smilingly. This isn't happening the whole time so I I would actually like to ask as of union fan was a kind of a disappointing. It's such a great regular season. How they fell out in the play offs the the Philly fans for the show? I mean look at eight that night game against The rebels was unbelievable right so after they go up against Atlanta you know. They definitely flavor playing at mercedes-benz tough overall but the Philadelphia Union. More like like the the they had good results luscious detail and toews yet. But I'm just so impressed. Compared to last year where like nobody was going to games aims of it was just a really difficult to like. Just connect with the community and you realize like the sons of Ben all the effort that was pulled from from the club to just get more people excited about the team we went to even Fang all the stuff fan. You saw what we were there for the CFC's Philly Games We were doing press stuff too uh-huh and we were on the field looking around the police which jammed the Velika parring gap. You'll go philly. Yeah like yeah sold out stadium Gesture is feels feels like just it feels good is small at about twenty thousand. But that ain't a raucous twenty thousand It's it's The identity is very much via its the same constant belittling anybody man. It's just a brand. We have a brand had it not like people think soccer fans off whatever not build up the unit out now. I loved it very much. The Seniors Villi people. Yeah they Serbia different culture. It's a problem it's so funny because like Philly fans get this hard core like mentality but we feel things I remember when my grandfather we won won the super bowl with the eagles. I'm getting off track. This guy who served in Vietnam. He's never I love you know. Hugs or anything I remember. He called me when we won the Super Bowl. I I never thought I would make it to this point. It was like crying on the phone so we do not like the most like egg people but we do have kind of like hardcore your brand but that's really cool so are you guys Newark FC fans or Red Bull fans local. Or would you say I'll win. NYC AFC started is kind of what we started the podcast. I'm originally originally thought was the kind of focus on but So we are both NYC season ticket holders But we've kind of just we talked about the whole leagues over fans amend my CFC. For sure you're in. I think that lends a little bit of credibility too because American soccer fans for so long like well. Are you really committed to being an American furniture you paint. Are you a part of the League or you know helping hoping for us. Owning at least tickets means like we're putting our money into the league as well like we. We care about Eric in soccer. What exactly brought you guys together? Make this podcast. We guys like hitting doing stand together and like stuff like daily. What was kind of like inspiration for this year while we were doing? Stand up for years. We've both been doing standard for about eleven years and Probably we knew we each had individual podcasts and then but we would meet on the scene doing shows and stuff but then we realized we both like soccer fee funds stuff like that and then when we started Alexis was talking about like you WanNa do soccer related projects like videos and stuff. I I was working on a sketch show sort of in this group of like I just want to make a bunch of stuff And we were all right. Let's do something soccer related than we made some videos And then we started the podcast and we missed a week since I A now. TV show so it's like say husband the whole Fubo TV. I mean also. How's it being famous? That's like kind of sick right like that's kind of cool like my whole life My Ego my my life up to my ego. I think it's going to. Ah Now. I mean this has been you know when we started the podcast. You know as as Comedians the reason we have individual podcast. The reason why we wanted to start this podcast because you spent a Lotta time during the day not really doing much for the most part. I'm sort of waiting for nights to perform in and you want to be productive but you WanNa do something you love and you WanNa put that content canal and hope that enough people see that they'll come see you perform stand up so we looked at this as a way to maybe cultivate a bit of a of a audience or fan base And you know once we got to offer Why in our lives like wait? You're stand up comics in American soccer budgets. Do you guys ever WanNa make money. You know like I thought I was going to become a blacksmith neck. You know like it's blowing glass. Who knows it could be anything? Yeah glass must be a nice guy. Yeah that's good. That's the best. I'm an open Mike. I know there's like this whole like what's it called Do you guys get that like people who you say like. Oh I do stand up versus open mic. I heard there's a big debate and like stand up comedy world about You guys feel that so I would say it's a level that you sort of recognized you know. There's a big debate. They're they're people that I know that are famous that are on TV. They're doing open mic throughout the week in New York A sort of prepare material comedies. The one of the few are from the sort of practice in front of the actual people so people see you struggle. Because you're working on it you know. Sometimes doing an open mic will help solve that. But you know once you get to the level we are. You don't get as many opportunities to do. It makes because we're so busy but yeah. Yeah how's that balanced. Oh sorry go ahead. Sorry I'm sorry. Say like an open. micrometres established media. There's no I mean like there's clearly a if somebody's Consistently doing it yet. Maybe not getting booked on a budget shows just yet you already see the. US appear if you are Sacrifices I know how hard it is and you could be doing other things with your time and it's a it's a real gripe nine so There's people that are doing shows. That can sell out theaters that I would not consider comedians. Maybe they're just like really possible or they have like draws because of the big youtube channel or something checkmark. Yeah absolutely seen. I've seen your parents are disappointed in you. You're halfway to be like you'll be inconvenient as every day who believes in you know you've got given up a lot of like relationships and you sacrificed family events and stuff for this thing that you love. So whether you're doing open mic like Christianson instead of you're doing it at a comedy club or at show you run. It doesn't matter if you do if you've done your comics just because you sell tickets that shit. Yeah like I've seen a screech. Do you stand up. I wouldn't really call them a stand up. Comedian just row screeched. Amazing would you. Is there any tips like for me. I would love a tip. I bombed the other day I was like Spiraling onstage and I was like all right. I'm GonNa Start Making Baltimore. The wire jokes was not relevant. Relevant whatsoever Is there any tips you would give to someone on like who's trying to like. Go Up and try and get into comedy. I would say like if you know right away when you grab a microphone or fits for you not for you. There's a lot of ways where I like so Chris and I are different like Christian could possibly sit in a room in right a joke out Anglo Television Begum. It'll be funny. I can't do that. I can't sit in a right. I whatever add or whatever it is that's not me. I need to go have to think of something funny and save on stage and I'll find the funny of onstage Sean. Very different in whatever. It is learning to do the other thing. You're not I mean give yourself opportunity to the thing if you Sort of write your jokes out and go tell them verbatim. Go up there and try not doing matt tried giving yourself like a bullet or it'd be like all. I thought that was funny. I told a friend that and go up there and you could build that world worked at other muscle. Because when you get to the point where you're booking big shows shows where you're doing things you may not have the chance to sit and write everything you're about to say you may need that other muscle. I think that's really important. I'm working really hard now. Ten in years in my career. I'm writing and it's very difficult because I didn't do it at the beginning. Seventy mine like kind of teaching yourself. Now Okay Yeah I would say the EH especially early on to not be these kind of the tips I got from people have been doing a long time is to not be not to judge yourself so harshly especially at open mic. Like don't bombing is fine. Don't worry about what people are sort of connecting to or if they're laughing vein necessarily like your do the same jokes for three months. If you have like. Don't be don't think that you have to do things a certain way. That's 'cause no there's no oh advice that I can't give you any advice that will lead you. You'll find your own because you'll never be able to mind because nightingale. Yeah I was GONNA end up doing and doing soccer podcast and then you have was not in the plans when I start making comedy careers more relevant like that was definitely definitely not the plan. So yeah just keep the law. The best advice is to keep doing it. There's no because it'll it'll just make more sense of the long gone and we're proof that if you do something you'd think is funny doesn't matter if you think anyway you can get spending other eventually. Yes we we are proof of sure we had to put a everyone's if for half years permissible but eventually you'll find a group of people in I think it was. I forgot who said it to I can't remember Joan rivers if all you ever do is make one percent of the audience love you want percents population. You'll feel theaters for the rest of your life. You know so yeah all you have to do is find your group of people that's why it takes so long to be a great comic as you have to sort of worm your way through a lot of body insists the five that really appreciate you are. Eventually that'll blow. I love it becomes a huge audience through how to Joan rivers quote. Wow I'm just I am taken aback this whole sidetracked podcasts mostly for me. I know we've got soccer. Yeah but I really appreciate you guys answering these questions. So in terms of the top five league we obviously call cover a lot of premier league and stuff like that. So we've been covering this whole year big arsenal fan obviously The Premier League raise. What have you made of this whole like you know the past? Couple of years the premier league's been very competitive all the other leagues have kind of had their one winner. You ventas the Barcelona the buyer Munich. CBS G obviously Now Liverpool's kind of leg ran away with it. Do you find this title race to be over already. I it's clearly over. I mean but I to me. Premier League is always. He's always hinges on the Christmas season. You know they play so many games during that part where no one else does so. There's always a way we could change in the second half I thought as an arsenal little family had a chance to catch lester during that time period a few years ago. Unless please don't bring that up please hang on L. Welbeck's right off the top of the forehead. I thought we had that Shit. Aw but to me. It's like it's really hard to sort of claim that there's winning whatever your Chelsea ran away with it You know city running away with it now Liverpool running away with it I i. I can't imagine they're not GonNa win. The League seems like they put all their eggs in that basket. Woody Champions League so I just hope arsenal finishes in the top four. I want to get back to champion. I just hope Everton doesn't get relegated. Let's go my God. I was about to say I mean Carlo enchiladas out there men luxury both both these teams. You're talking about our needing of managers gers right now Do you guys see them going any these clubs like there's Maximilian Luxury Chilanga. Here's another one Well I guess Gino Baccino. Well he's not going to arsenal but like back. He's already said he had a quote the other day not going on your because of Barcelona and he's not or he's not going to go to Barcelona. Because that's on your sorry sorry. And then Same with like Tottenham Arsenal. But like do you. Could you see him going man united only. I don't know how he got a job. But what around Madrid Catina I think actually is one of the room guys arsenal now. The guy that was supposed to get hired by in West. CFC IS UH being rumored as an Arsenal van Bronckhorst. Yeah Giovanni Braam van Bronckhorst I just want arsenal to get someone. I would love for them to keep Bloomberg until next season. Ended up at Perpetuate what we already have that it is easy to get him out of his rumors. Gut wants out of the city so I I'm happy with as far as Everton D- and they have such good players that there's no excuse for the team to be that bad. I mean I don't know what manager they're going to have a tough time reeling in a top level manager manager because who wants to coach there right. It just doesn't have the cachet of some of these other clubs But if they can get initially would be unbelievable right Ah They can make under the day though. It's still fairly people want to coach in the primarily. So you might want you might get someone who was like a big coach of Boondocks League or big coach coach. Leon who wants to make the lead to two primarily so I mean I I forget the guy's name but who's the dude that's at a much lower back Right now they're giving crushing. It will just lead lead. Yeah wants to make the leap. He goes to Abington. I don't know but road comb out with a better job. I mean they have the alleged. Theo Walcott anyway. I I love the that's my name and my cat is Theodore and say oh because you walkout like no but like they just happened to you. Know it's I know I feel like I'd be amiss if I didn't bring up the current. US Soccer Situation. What have you made of Greg's tenure? You're right now in the current state of the US. Men's national team feel feeling a little better or you guys are you guys doing you know I mean I waxed and waned depending on you know. I'll sort of how I feel that day. Wind Gregg Berhalter from Jersey. So Shouts Greg Jersey. Where we not call Taylor? I am from himself. Grew up in South Jersey and Millville grew up in bumble Cumberland County. So it's totally. Find Your Violence Cumberland County. When did we don it? It is my father's a total redneck. Uncle Slob and uncle hen bird to go to the club it is. It's not a good time to see the term because I know it's offensive but pine. Yeah Oh like this apprentice episode with Paulie and Christopher. Yeah exactly but I remember. I went my wife's grandfather owned a blueberry farm in Pomona it which is way South Jersey. Oh yeah and all the pickup trucks pie. NEOM Brown thousand ninety. Don't say that that's offensive. I'm like I didn't know but uh ah I forgot how you a soccer star majority vic. Look I like the fact that we have a system but you know it seems like the treating the national team as a as a professional club And I'm not sure if that's always the right idea like you look at the rest of the world. The you know the national team either. Either you have a system like Spain has had or you come in the election. Hata we just wait. You Know Lake Francis Planning counterattacking soccer. You know you're not going to be able to get a German arriving Or German or Spanish system. I clearly what we're trying to do here. I don't know if it works. I just we make it to the World Cup because we need that balance although nobody nobody was linked guitar. Also that's a whole. I mean they got like slave labor going on in Qatar back in that John Oliver Special. From what like four years ago now when he talked about that that which is absolutely. I mean John Oliver's my favorite but like that special I still watch constantly when you were talking about the Brazil and how awful that whole was and everything like that but I mean it's kind ended bin Laden not everyone talking about how horrible Qataris people can't leave. They got these visas taken away. It's a really bad situation over there and I guess they're making these domes because it gets up to one hundred twenty degrees there during the summer. It's going to be during the winter. Now Right. They changed it. Yeah so it's GonNa be like the most impressed world cups is like the seventies Jesus well Christian I feel route. I didn't ask you. What's your thoughts on the currency the US soccer? I'm sorry the state of US soccer. I'm more concerned. Based on a couple of people that we interviewed like we had Sei Soccer. I was alarmed up on our show. Who covered the US national team trump? Plenty years and I kind of base. My you know. my concerns off of how these people who come in You know US aqua for a long time and people are a little nervous. I think they're more. I'm more worried about I. Think the at the senior level. I think we'll be fine. I think I think Berhalter can get US woke up. But when you realize that now there's a lot of vacant use Co The two positions. I if that next cycle that I think we're in. We're having a bit of an issue now for the four Foundation for the future so Twain Twenty Six. I don't know exactly who's going to be part of that. Why what is that? You could end up with a lost generation. Because of that you know you could enter bill. Yeah you know you have these issue you of like the the. US Soccer wants everyone to move to Chicago All used coaches at basically everyone they wanna have of that. That mean hub which you so you understand that but the country is so big and maybe it may not be beneficiary. You may not be able to get. Chicago can't play soccer Around yeah so you may exactly were. You won't be able to attract the best coaches For our youth national teams. So that that's where I'm at right now just like worried about what the future will look like because because it doesn't look like there's going to be consistency that we sort of that. We really need to keep making into every walk up. What do you think about the argument that more players should be abroad? Really we have tons in the Bundesliga and stuff like that like people were like. Oh well we gotta make MLS strong. It's like people pulling at two ends of Lake Straw are at a rope. You know what I mean. We were just in Germany everywhere Low and he's a big from opponent. He's like I did. I went to Hanover and just spent my entire career. We played one club and he said the Bundesliga has a huge opportunity. And if American kids have the opportunity to go that they definitely should so I don't think you I don't think any answers correct. I mean I had you. I think my answers correct I would I would say you WANNA litter American kids all all over the world crispy. Listrik is the first first American. I know of that when you tell someone their American for the first time you like what you know. They're shocked because as in how good he is. You know. Pass the Americans. We sort of had to make excuses for Landon Donovan. Oh he would be great if he played. You know what I mean but nobody's building. Mls I think think if the better the higher the level the kid is either they come back to molest other great where they stay out in Europe and continue to sort of propel forward the projection or the idea the perception I I should say of an American player and I think that's almost more important. You don't build sort of that. The value of the American players continue to build the quality and the more and more sort of American players are playing playing Champions League and stuff like that did get beat for the for the World Cup for the national team. Yeah I agree. That was the all right. All right all right like we do have a players that came from MLS academies that made it to the men's national team yet like Paxton Palmdale all right so actually that there are they are mls Kademi. That are putting out real talent that have interest from Europe. Of course if you had the opportunity to go ought to Europe or the for the individual player I think that's great but with your question about building mls. I don't know if that I find that to be a priority no right because because we're gonNA build the MLS by bringing in not only having great players in the academy and then playing on almost I teams but does laptops coming over here right the Wayne. Rooney's leased even though Quote Unquote retirement leaks. But not only are we getting those high quality players but we're getting like young South Americans out playing on these teams so that is also going going to help us build. MLS and it doesn't necessarily the American player. The young America doesn't necessarily have to be responsible for building the League or yeah well thank you. That was so well thought out. That was very great. Thank you guys so much. I mean one of us is smart now. You both have been fantastic Make sure to follow on At the cool against wrecks on twitter soccer soccer cool against the worst at soccer hooligans on twitter and instagram graduate on I tunes spotify Ice Stitcher. I'm assuming oh anywhere. Got podcast. Go to them. They are the absolute best. There's a reason the guys are the best in the industry. My last question before we finish is what does it mean to be goalie. I WanNa know what what is the glorious like I need to know for the fans tell me am I am. I really like what's up because you asked the question. Thank you flip to me. I think has had a lot of definitions over the years but for us. It's someone who we defend American soccer. We we sort of defend what we think is riot You know we were. It's sort of like I don't know I wanNA use the term brave but it's you know be proud of who you are and say what needs to be said either. I hold that very the year two. We're both You know inner city Latino right be grew That's how we even that word being associated with that show. Joke was totally ironic. Because we're we're both Comedians Matt sliding anybody who weren't like we're not dogs but I think what the cool thing is that it's made people be more Not just be so defensive about American soccer almost be offensive and be like you. You know what this is. This is who we are this represent. We're trying to build this not only make the sport relevant amongst all the other sports right a lot of people who enjoy soccer in the. US are like they keep it to themselves. They have to be closeted soccer fans because they can't reveal it to their coworkers or their friends and stuff like that. And we've made made it a little bit more like you know what there's nothing to be ashamed of. And if I the Europeans make fun of us for long soccer whatever week clapback we we yell at that. We no longer going to be like. Oh you're right guys we're here now. Listen to your mate. We're going to go have ourselves donnybrook. I don't know what they do over there. But yes that sounds I I love that thank you I feel goalie after this interview and guys I thank you so much. Is there anything I may have missed anything. You guys want to plug real quick showing Fubo. TV and it's a bunch of different networks. You did you go to sports network DOT COM. You'll see over on Tuesdays and Thursdays at eight pm every single week. A face right. So yeah it'd be I check it out. You guys ladder. I guys thank you so much for coming on the show and taking the time you guys have been amazing you did. Some ASTO Bob.

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