Living in lockdown


Heartbreaking Italy as the country continues to suffer from the corona virus outbreak. Over a thousand people have died in the Italian. Prime Minister has announced restrictions on movement across the entire country in the most drastic response yet to the spread of Corona virus. She didn't talk to shoot a notice. We understand that all. These measures will create inconveniences. We understand that. These measures will impose sacrifices sometimes small and sometimes very large but this is a time where we must take responsibility for ourselves so Italy's effectively on lockdown. They've shut down the entire country in an attempt to stop the spread of covert nineteen. So that means something like sixty million. People are under strict travel restrictions. They're being told to basically stay home for everything but essential work and getting things like food if they wanna move around the country. For worker health reasons they need to get special permission people mandated to keep at least three feet away from anyone else or face up to three months jail. Streets are quiet. Public gatherings and meetings are off limits now theaters James Ski Resorts Clubs Sporting Events. They're all closed even weddings and funerals. Needs to be delayed and places that are open are empty. The shops in the tourist areas of Romar standing empty bars and restaurants are empty. Grocery stores are still up and running in store pharmacies but there are apparently only seeing patients through a glass or plastic barrier and. I've spoken to talion this week. Who taught me how dramatic this changes. How SUDDEN IT FEELS. Italy's this densely packed country. A lot of people live in apartments. There used to gathering in meeting in public spaces having their evening passage outta like a walk around the main streets in the cities and towns where they live and congregating in these places and now these public spaces are dead and we have to remain positive. I'm calm I'm living the best way taking all precautions we have to adopt lifestyles but we carry them when the quarantine was first imposed on the north of the country which is where. The outbreak is centered. People were a bit skeptical and may be resistant to following the quarantine orders. And now I think with the death toll and the case toll rising so fast so again more than thousand deaths. They're people are scared and they're more willing to follow instructions and to take this seriously. That had been worries for the potent himself after he cancelled a retreat because of illness but the Vatican said he simply had a common cold. Gino Coreper Year. I'm close in prayer to people who are suffering because of the current corona virus epidemic. I'd say Wolf those taking care of them and you even have like public figures like pop singers and artists taking to social media to encourage people to stay at home. There's an eel store Aqazadeh Hashtag going around sub means I'm at home and Famous people are sharing little photos and videos about their quarantine experiences. So I think the I've kind of shifted from maybe some skepticism take acceptance at. This is what needs to happen and it might change. Though in the coming days the government to set anyone found flouting the ban could face jail but patrolling the region to ensure everyone stays port will be another challenge for a government dealing with Europe's worst corona virus crisis. So Italy is in China. So they don't have this massive army and police force to keep people in line but for now it sounds like most people are being the order. They're staying home Julia. Blues Senior Health correspondent at Vox. You've been covering the corona virus outbreak in Italy from your base in Austria. Just how bad is the outbreak in Italy? It's bad so as a Friday. They have more than fifteen thousand cases and thousand deaths. And just put those figures into context. That's bigger than the other major outbreaks that are happening outside of China. So it's bigger than the outbreaks you've probably heard about in South Korea. It's bigger than Iran is the largest outbreak in Europe and only the numbers in China rival. What's happening in Italy right now? And the one thing that makes the the Italian case so startling just how quickly it escalated so just three weeks ago. Italy had reported only three cases to the. Who and again. Now they have more than fifteen thousand and so this virus really took off there and it appears to have caught the authorities off guard. Oh is that why it spread so quickly because Italian officials were caught off guard? There are a few theories so the outbreak started in the north in the Lombardy region. This is a densely populated. Area has lots of business ties to the rest of the world. Ten million people living there people coming in and now and that might have helped accelerate the spread but there are many parts of Europe. They'd have these dynamics so that might not explain everything another ideas that there were simply testing more aggressively than other places and finding more cases and not might have inflated picture of what's happening there relative to other countries so for example as of March the only seventeen hundred Americans have been tested for cove in nineteen and the number in Italy was fifty thousand in. Italy was also taking a different approach many other countries in not just testing people who had returned from China. They're also testing people without any traveling or even symptoms at the time. Another theory is that this virus got a foothold in the hospital system. Before doctors realized there was a problem and that might have amplified the outbreak. So something like ten percent of medical workers in Lombardy have been infected. There's also speculation about whether covert nineteen has been particularly severe in Italy because they have an aging population and we know that the virus hits elderly people particularly hard. But the bottom line I think is that the government was forced into this catch-up position a reaction mode like as as soon as they found cases so Italy certainly isn't unique in that sense but I think there's sort of representative of what can happen if the virus does get a foothold in a country. How quickly it can spread in how fast things can spiral house. Italy's medical system has been able to cope with the rising numbers so Italy has a system of universal public health care so they're like Canada or the UK but Italy wasn't prepared for the surge in sick people that they've seen and so doctors there have gone public about just how unprepared the health system. Was there not enough hospital beds? Not Enough Space. In intensive care units to treat people in the more severe form of this disease people need ventilators for help with breathing and Italy hasn't had that so The you have these doctors taking to social media and writing about how they've been forced to ration care and choose who treat war now here. Recently a few doctors wrote a letter to the rest of Europe. Saying get ready. You might look like Italy in a few days so so make sure that you are prepared and you. You don't see this complete deluge of your health system what happened. Lamberti is just like a bomb that exploded. You know the problem is that it exploded there and before you career is what's happening. You are like overwhelmed by the masters patients so hopefully in other countries. It's not behaving like this. What's important to know? Is that where this outbreak started in the north? It's one of the richest regions in Europe. So this isn't an Italian backwater. This is an economic powerhouse and they have a very strong health system there but again what seems to have caught them off guard is that the case counters escalated so fast. That's what makes this example particularly frightening because you have a place with a strong health system that in theory should have been able to respond to this kind of crisis but wasn't and so the implications for the US like like. I have spoken to ex director of the CDC OTHER HEALTH EXPERTS. Who say something like this could play out in the US. And so if we haven't had a wakeup call yet about how effectively this virus can spread how it can overwhelm health systems. How it can obviously have massive reverberating effects on the economy? Italy should be that warning. You're saying it's frightening. I mean I hope it's okay to ask. I mean you're about to have a baby and you know you're in Austria which is right next to Italy guessing. This is more than just a story. You're covering so I would. What is amazing to me? Is how quickly This outbreak went from being something that was like a far off problem in China to a worldwide threat and something. That's very personal to my home. My husband was traveling in Asia. I didn't know when he came back if he would have to be quarantined. While I was going into Labor what would happen. Um I've had family have to cancel their trips. Who are coming to see the baby. They were supposed to have soon. One of the obstetrical wards in Vienna shutdown cities have shut down schools universities. My due date is next week and I'm wondering if my hospital will still be open and if my doctor will still be there I've had I've had some of my sources you know. I'm pregnant suggest that I should get induced to avoid the peak transmission here in in Vienna. So yeah I think this is GonNa have long lasting repercussions for all of us for sure but hopefully it will just be a good story to tell her child in the future that Here she was born in a pandemic after the break. What it's like in Rome right now. Living on lockdown. I'm now I'm Hassenfeld filling in for Sean Rotherham. While he's on vacation this is today explained Where's the best ice cream in the neighborhood? How come there's been traffic at the same corner for a week? Is someone near me. Selling their coffee table. Find the answers to all this and so much more on nextdoor nextdoor is the APP for everything happening in your community it's available every. Us neighborhood and every member is verified. So you know. 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You need to stay in your homes and it's hard to feel like you don't have any freedom of movement. I live in an apartment on the outskirts of the city and we luckily have terrorists so I can have some outdoor time. There's also a courtyard but it belongs to the whole building and so it is communal space and so we don't really know what to do there. Yesterday we took our son out for bike ride through the around the courtyard but today we decided not to do it because we thought well. It is a communal space. We also have a little playground across the street from the House. That's where most kids will play. That's completely closed. It's locked so as not even possible to go in. Honestly though being cooped up with my son is is not the only challenge. It's also challenging to be cooped up with my husband. It's only been two days and I'm already like thinking How in the world are possible? We're going to get through a month of this. My new highlight of my days to go grocery shopping. Just get out of. The House is a treat but here they'll only let a certain number of people into the supermarket at a time. And you have to wait until someone comes out and they let one person in so that means that a line builds up outside would you have to have at least three feet of space between you and the person in front of you so it ends up being a very very very long line but it does move quickly and I thought I was going to be in line for hours today and it ended up being only about twenty minutes and once I was inside the supermarket it was pretty empty? Because they're letting so. Few people ended a time and I was pleasantly surprised. The shelves were more or less full. Italians are very social by nature. Italians congregate in Piazza's they sit in cafes they hang out together. They walk arm in arm down the street. They kiss each other when they see each other and for them to be told. Okay not only. Can you not go out to dinner? Not only can you not go to your coffee bar. But you can't even hang out with someone on the side of the street you can't get into within a meter of another person and if you can stay in your house it's hard for ties. It's hard for most people to be honest but I think it's a particular challenge for Italians. I think that particularly for Italy this whole pandemic this whole virus could change some of the social or cultural tendencies of the country. There's an expression here which is Minnesota's mall which means sort of like I don't give a damn nece if if that could be a word and it's just this attitude of like whatever I don't care I'm GonNa do what works for me. Italians are famous for being line cutters. You know some of the people wait in line but a lot of people decide up to the front and slip in and I think that this whole thing that we're going through together as a country right now could change that to some extent and I think that I see people coming together for this collective good of the country and it's very easy for a young person to say I don't care. I'm not going to get sick even if I do get this. It's not gonNA kill me. So why do I care? But there's been a shift in the way people are looking at it and they're starting to think about the older generation and we have a lot of older people in Italy. It's the oldest country in Europe so people are starting to think well no going to be much much more careful because I don't want to carry this disease to my grandparents or other older people sick people and so you see people really doing their best to follow the rules. And there's always GONNA be a couple of people who who don't but for the most part. I've been really surprised at how Italians have sort of pulled together. And we're like okay. This is hard. We're GONNA sacrifice and we're going to do it and there's an expression that sort of floating around on Italian social media. Which is we're GONNA stand far from each other now so that we can embrace each other later. Tiffany parks is the CO host of the podcast the bittersweet life. Italy may be unlocked down but in at least one city residents have found a new way to stay together by singing out their windows. This particular song from the city of Sienna is an Ode to the beauty of the city. Residents actually put a new verse in which goes like this even with thunder and lightning. We are not afraid of you. Garbage Virus Ono along.

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