The Coral Courts Radio Hour: Daniel Corey
It has been a long time since I have been back behind the microphone, but finally after flood and the holidays and everything the coral courts radio hour is a back, and we are returning with a very special guest. Today. Think we really gonna like this show the premise of the coral courts radio our function of the dish radio podcast is basically I get to relive my glory. Jackie days to play I play music for you. So we try to keep it about an hour, but we always fail and bring along against more often than not very good friend of mine who has who has music tastes that are different than my own. And we kind of walk through a playlist that such a friend has put together today is is no exception. One of my dearest, friends and someone with fantastic ears that are very very different than mine. But fantastic, nevertheless, always turns me onto something new musically. Growing. These gentlemen, comic writer up lay right fan, boy musician, and dear friend of mine. Mr. Daniel Corey, Dan, welcome to the coral courts radio. Our ancient, sir. Have cited the here man to be fun. I am so glad you could do this. Because you you were you were, you know, one of the folks right at the top of my list when I put this together, I'm like. Because we have sat behind Mike's together for years. We've done it. We've done we've done some interviews. Yeah. We we've done interviews for your books, which would get to, you know, and we've hung out with done Comecon panels, together and stuff like that. But then when you and just hanging out or a couple of guys we're playing music for each other. And when I have you heard this. Hey, have you heard this? And I'm like, why don't we just do this for everybody? Yeah. Great. So after after a little prodding a little nudging. I got you to put together you list of ten I'd imagine probably took awhile knowing you. Yeah. But we've narrowed it down we've got eleven tracks to walk. Cheated went over. I'm sorry. What are I mean? I don't I don't get on your last minute. I found another one is that. Okay. Skip it if you want I don't have sponsors. And I'm my own program directors down here. Whatever I want and gosh, pay what one of the things that. I would love to know before we dive into this is. We've talked about how you grew up. You grew up in a lack of a better trendless called a church home. Now. That's that's exactly what it is. And you know, we're your ruby younger than me. But you know, I grew up in the mid west handle lot of friends who grew up in in terms, and that he'd been rock and roll was not always right? So, you know, as as we go through the list, and as the music that you played for me as we've known each other who ten years, plus. You know, how did how did the rock and roll bug? What's what's your story? Oh, gosh. Well, okay. My origin story. Well, I mean, I grew up in a home filled with music, you know, there's a lot of music at home and. Yeah. They stuff where they plan though. Well, it was mean, my parents were like strict about like, you know, certain like the the new rock at the time and stuff I we weren't. We weren't listening to a lot of that. But there was like older music like oldies, we listened to a lot of oldies and stuff like that. And listen to a lot of gospel and a lot of Christian music, you know, but I did here. A lot of like Chuck Berry and fast domino. And like the platters like, my, you know, my dad grew up here in LA listening to lot of soul music, a lot of old soul stuff. I was very very very familiar with. And you know, I knew of I I didn't have extensive knowledge of everybody's catalogs. But I knew of people like Aretha Franklin, and you know, Otis Redding. And I knew a lot of those a lot of the hit songs from those artists. So I guess that rock and roll as far as rock and roll goes, it was like, you know, it was oldies and old rock and old soul from fifties. And sixties mainly acquainted with you know, and yeah, yeah. You know? And then there was you know, I was born right at the time when Christian music was becoming a thing, you know. So, you know, I I also grew up listening to a lot of these like, the rock bands and the contemporary Christian artists striper. Yeah, I wasn't really into striper. But like there was groups like White Hart and Petra that did like arena rock the Christian teenage kids crowds that I listen to and my sister was really into Amy grant like she still is fan. You know, she stayed in. You know, the. Yeah. The thing is. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, the thing is Amy is like she's like a been a fixture in the Nashville scene for years. So right want like, you know, you know, a tried and true proven songwriter. Work person on the Nashville seeing that gained national prominence. You know, she would be like right there. You know? So I mean, some of these artists they got a bad rap at the time and baby now, but like the, you know, these were all really legit like really tried and true Nashville artists that did this did this music in while they weren't doing their own albums. They're doing sessions with Eric Clapton, or whatever you know, what I mean. So, you know, like the guys from White Hart where writing songs for Clapton, you know, you know, in their off time stuff like that. That was the story. I heard once. And I lived in central Florida Orlando going up, and so like all the it was a huge market for church music. Instead of all these artists came in like there was free or cheap ten dollar concerts every weekend that my friend. I could go to their all age. She shows, and you know, it was fun Christian rhinos great place to meet girls. Yeah. Teenage boy, and you wanna talk to cute girls. It was like not bad thing. You know in, you know, anyways. We'll we'll censor that part from my wife listens. I guess, but but she's yes. But anyway, it was it was a fun place to go and meet people. Yeah. In general. And you know, there is that. But. I don't know when I got into high school. You know, I started listening to like you to and RAM, and I got into rush and stuff like that. And that was with my my buddy, Brian Brian Mitchell. His name we listen to a lot of music together. And really got me a really got into YouTube at that time, and you know, and they're basically a very like Christian roots band. Anyway, you know, there's things we want to talk about coming up. So this is what early you two would be nineteen eighty three four. Yeah. The first album boy was eighty one. Yeah. They got together like in seventy seven when there was sixteen writing in the you know, they released like an EP few singles. But then I l p boy came out and eighty one eighty or eighty one eighty one, but yeah, so and that was like, you know, and those things like this albums released by the seventeen year old kids, and it was a concept album about. The journey through youth and adult scence and hitting maturity, and you know, the first song was a big hit song. They still played all their shows. I will follow. It's a song about you know, like Bano. It's it's a song about him losing his mother as as a young child and continuing spiritual journey through life trying to like have this journey through life with God in the absence of his mother. I mean, this is a seventeen year old kid. If you hear the songs Lear lyrics this song. It's simple heavy the whole album is really heavy, and I'm like these guys are seventeen. So there was like there was something to these guys from the very beginning. You know, they were very soulful in thoughtful songwriters from the very start. You know, and they could barely play their instruments at the time, you know. So anyway, I, you know, I really got into that. And I really specially got into the two albums that are really got into at that time were forgettable fire and Joshua tree. Right. And and those were produced by the team of Brian Eno and Daniel. Len Wein, we got some Daniel in while on the list coming up here in a little while. And so, yeah, I mean, I think we can get into that a little bit more. We get into list, but. Yeah. There's like, you know, I'm a spiritual person as it, Christian, person spiritual person. So I always connected to the spiritual aspects of rock and roll, you know, and even the, you know, the secular stuff, you know, because, you know, you look at the original star now like with Elvis and Jerry Lewis, and these guys they, you know, they all came from Churchill save out of the church amount of wire. Yeah. Yeah. Little Little Richard. Yeah. Dade minister. Yeah. Yeah. I know. And that's, you know, so there is a spirits rooting everything. They did you know and Johnny cash, you know, we can't leave him out. Right. I mean, there's so many, you know, great, you know, of that of that tradition Perkins. And all those guys they came out of that tradition. And even you know, what they would sing about the real stuff of the world and what they're going through. And you know, they would get, you know, get even when it got corrupted dirty. It was rooted in you know, this is what I'm from and this. But this is what I'm experiencing, you know. So there was an honesty there. That was shied away from later, you know, as things came a little more sanitized, you know, but you know, but that's kind of like what you two dozen brace that, you know, that's part of like, you know, why I still listen to them. They're they deal with honestly deal with some of the, you know, the grittiness and real reality of the world, and some of the things they go through and some of the things that perhaps they've done that they're not proud of they'll they'll sing about it. But. It's rooted in what this is coming from. But this is what I experienced, you know, and that kind of honesty, I appreciate and wish we could get a little more of that in the conversation. Just in the you know in the church, Rome. Sometimes it's it's frowned upon. But outside of the church. Exactly. All right. Well, cool that that shines a lot of light and sets a really good foundation for the eleven cuts that we're going to go through today. Let's let's hit the first one the very first one is the take off and landing of everything. Tell me about now to be fair you sent me this list. And I made a point not everything I'm going to hear his fresh to my ears. So well, and because I mean, you know, me, you know, I can be a rock and roll stop sometimes horribly afraid of of my judgment. And and frankly, you're you're taller than I am an in better shape. So you could take a fight. So we're not gonna go there. It's not going to get to that. Don't worry. But you know, what I wanted to do was come into all of these cuts with absolutely freshers. Probably ninety five percent certain. I haven't heard a single one of these tracks and the title to this very first one is completely unfamiliar to me. But when we were planning the show, you're like, let's play this first, and it's a long one. But you know, tell me tell me about this cut. Okay. So this group elbow, I was introduced to pry five or six years ago. I was taking voice lessons with Karen Whipple. Schnur who's a a what are you? Really? Sure. Yeah. You know? Karen? Yeah. Yeah. Wonderful. Yeah. A lot of people know our Kosice sings and a lot of she sings in a lot of groups around town as Caroline now now, and she and her husband Ray of have have moved up to northeast and their working in churches and stuff up there. But and he was terrific. Anyways. Karen told me about this. She's like, you should check these guys out elbow. They're really good. And I immediately got hooked. I'm you know, really big Peter Gabriel fan, and that would be the only thing like you say describe Elbaum like, well, I guess they do something akin to what you'd hear PD. Gabriel do which you can't really describe Peter Gabriel either, you know, so, but it's really big huge production kind of wall of sound and some in some some of the stuff. Okay. And really interesting. Good lyrics and singers got a great voice. It's a kind of thing where like it just all comes together in a certain way this band, you know, when they play, and it just sounds respectful, and it's not, but it's not like weird or Esa teric or anything it's hard to describe. It's not strange esoteric. It's very palatable is just you got. We gotta hear it. We got to hear it. But then that's exactly what we do. And then we'll come back, and we'll talk about the track. So here is elbow Spanish for the bow. Or is it elbow? It's just the part of your arm. I don't the name. But yeah, here we got enough. It's elbow mccraw courts radio hour. She marshall. Shoes. Scare. The band is called elbow, and that was take off and landing of everything right here on McCoy court three hour. I'm Tim powers. My guest is danger cat Daniel Corey, and we're going through through a list of music Dan has program for us today. That is an interesting six and a half minute cut. I had no idea what to expect you. You said wall of sound like a lot of people say that. But not everybody knows what that is at wall of sound. Yeah. That's such a big sound right with that with that super mumbling base. Right. I mean, it's there's a lot of bass drum a lot of floor time in there just lay down this foundation. And then that the the literal Finn. I guess it's a Fender bass comes in and just lays that yet really cool foundation defending being. Yeah. That's then the counter melody from what are those keys, right? Yeah. That lilting piano. Did it? Yeah. Right. And this wasn't so much a song as it was a tone poem. I think. Yeah. A lot of this stuff is very wordy like that. And kinda chantey that you know. Yeah. In that way. But you also has a wonderful Cincinnati. But that one was very where he won the it was it was where the melody is fantastic. Yeah. To me to my ears, Dan. The the lyrics were lost in the mix. So I. I was more listening to the melody and the and the musicianship, and I completely missed the lyrics. So this something. Yeah. So tell me what I missed. Well, the the words actually go along with the feeling the music's giving you okay? You know, I mean, the title take off and landing and everything it's like this is a song that like I listened to like when I'm in the car, and we're about to drop a lot more money to do a new project and possibly go to the poor house. Or going off to a con- dragging off, you know, eight tons of books to Akon to try to hopefully, sign some books and try to get somebody's attention. Right. You know? And it's like, it's the takeoff. And landing of everything is like, you know, it's like the the the refrain into the song says over and over is a prayer for the take off and landing of everything for the take off landing of everything. Good. You know, it's like the song the songs like a prayer for what it is. You're trying to do with your life. You know? And there's like some of the some of the Lear are so wonderful like gets the guy. Garvey is the name of the the lead singer, writes writes, the words, you know, like the second verse he says, he kissed the wrist of the hand that has twisted at self all into your hair, you close the blinds doors behind me in clear all obstacles on the stair. You are an open book, I'm on the bathroom floor. Yours is an open door. I'm throwing ballast overboard. Wow. You know? It's just like, we're. The house ready for something something's going to happen. And he's like saying, I'm stuck here on the bathroom floor. But you're you know, assume he's talking to his wife because I'm thinking about my wife taking care of everything while I'm just stuck on the factory floor. And you know, I also love that uses the word balanced in a song. There's only one of the song that has used the word balanced. I know the Catherine wheel sparks are gonna fly got ballast in my brain. He says in that song. So I just think that's a really cool word that is under used in song lyrics, but. Yeah. So that song is it makes me feel good. And it makes me. You know, it's a kind of a thing in though, it's like what I was saying before about what was great about. So many of these roots gospel singer where they they know where they're from. But they their knowledge in the truthfulness where they're going, and this is this is you could call this a happy song. But it's also a song about okay, we're getting ready to stumble into the unknown here. You know, there's trepidation about it. Right. But then there's like, hey, this is thing feeling about, you know, we're burning the bridges, and we're we're making something happen. The take off landing of everything. And another special thing about this song for me is a while ago. I wrote this I wrote a script and hasn't been produced or anything, but it's called craftsman. And it's an adventure story. Science fiction adventure story about I say that the pitches, inter dimensional capper Googlers, but you know, so's people slide into other realities in stealing things slide back into t to another reality to escape, and it's, but it's a lot of fun. It's almost of like it's got the kind of joyous romp of like, a marvel movie. The feel of it. And I always imagine this song being in credit song. Oh, cool. Yeah. So you know, that we'd have those wonderful animated titles like they have. You know, move with this song plane, you know, showing guys jumping off buildings and soften swinging from wires and doing a Beijing. Feats of heroism daring do with this song plane in the background because that's kind of like the motivation in the life of the character in that story. And then embraces kind of an abrasive kind of that romantic adventure inside myself. You know, dad at scores story and the song. So that that gopher broke. Yeah. Sometimes literally go for broke, which is pretty much exactly every time. But but yeah. Yeah. So that's why that songs on the list special. That's very cool. I'm glad that. I'm I'm glad we started with that one. Yeah. I really am. I think that a great place to start, and I and I love the energy behind our second cut. Where will I be? All right. What do I what do I need to know? So this is by Daniela and. I'm a huge huge huge fan. And I mentioned him earlier because he produced his produce a lot of YouTube albums with Brian Eno. Okay. You know, there's unforgettable fire and Joshua tree. Which is probably the two biggest, you know, and Achtung baby also one of their biggest and another one of their biggest being all that you Can't Leave Behind and they won the Grammys for beautiful day and stuff like that. So those are some of the the the huge hit songs albums of of you to. And it was it was there was like he told the story of how he came to work with them like to gone to Brian Eno about wanting to produce an album. And so, you know, it plays some of the demo tracks for Len wise, like, yeah, I don't want to produce any more records for other people on when do that. And he's like, well, do you think that you could hear me these guys I'm really interested in this? He's here in the music, and they ended up going to Dublin together. And he said they were driving, you know, in Lenoir in the car with Bano Bano driving, and he had a cassette tape in the player of just the the band playing music as he drove he was singing the songs with them. That's how. That's how and the interviewer says. Well, you know, I guess eventually came on board. Apparently and Lenoir says will Bano could be very persuasive. So you can imagine the charisma and all that. But anyway, yeah. So he's done so much work with them. And that's wonderful. Peter Gabriel so and us albums, and but you also worked with like Emmylou Harris. And so he did this album wrecking ball that he produced for her that one a lot of Grammy's, and he wrote this opening track call where will I be and the track is it's the credits on it. Simple. It's I was just looking Lander notes on the vinyl the other day, and it's EMMY Lou vocals, and he plays mandolin in based Daniel while plays that and Larry Mullen junior of YouTube plays the drums, right? And it's really beautiful. And that's it. That's all the musicianship on this. Yeah. Yeah. On that particular track. But then he ended covering the song his own song on his two thousand nine album here is what is and he did a much different Rendon of it's him singing lead. And I picked I picked this version of it because it's the one I can sing too in the car. All I listen to EMI Leuwen just as just as often can't lose. No. Yeah. I don't have her range. But but the version is very interesting because when he plays the mandolin he has running through a lot of affects. It sounds very edge with Qatar. I didn't realize it was a man to land until I was looking it's just very -ffected mandolin. It sounds like Atari does that a lot like. And here's the interesting thing was I recently got to go to his home for a party. Yeah. And go into his studio and his band played for us a little private concert. And I got to see this Qatar that he had is. But I've been seen in videos for years, and he has this like old metal Resonator, right? And the which one was flown on ahead. Memphis, national or Gibson. I don't recall, but is this old metal Resonator that I seen him play. He played it on Peter Gabriel's track. It's the opening track to the us album called come talk to me. And when he plays sounds very affected sounds like an electric guitar, but it's this old metal Resonator, and he's got a special bridge over the strings where that you installed pickups and all this, and it's really cool. Okay. I saw this guitar sitting on his piano and DO and his bass player Jim told me there's a big dent in the side. Is like, yeah. That that tends from a fight out of Bob Dylan. So but anyway, so yeah, this is so yeah. Daniela Noi singing where will I be in just like with elbow? I had a hard time picking picking a song this one. Does we could talk about the specifics, I guess lurks after but this one this one means a lot to me with lyrics such and the production on this one is very interesting. And you know, with this one is a lot of instrumentation that kind of blends together on overuse wall of sound. But a lot of stuff I picked, you know, has that has that quality to it. And it's it's a little more subtle in a little quieter than last one. But but yeah. And all right. Yeah. Let's give it a listen. Oh, the streets crash. This last seven. We're the mothers. Arms. In on. From. Cold. Will. When. Sure, all omitted. You said you'd be. Glenn don't wish your. Joe issue. Dome. While and Dr. True. Yeah. I like. Of your body land to me. Urine Jansher laughter. Draw? Talking video. The steel. Tracks. Well, that's wrong. Fulla heart opens wide. It's never seen. Anna did sons zone time. Like learn. Oh. The coral courts radio our with my guest, Dan, Corey as we as we go through music that Dan has programmed. Where will I be I love the production on that record? It's so good. It's wonderful soundings. There's so much because yes, if you're listening in headphones, you got a super treat because far far left in the mix and far far. Right. It sounds like there's two different drummers. Right. Totally syncopated but playing a different pattern, and they both just work beautifully. And then mix street front and center are these are these vocals that are nice and tight, right? He got you got your base on your on your far. Right. And then you've got this this funky. Keyboard not having B three, but just is the sustained chords right up mixed with the with the vocals, and he does an interesting thing. With the vocals where they they. They start out clear they get distorted in the middle. And they end clear as a bell with those drums. I love the production on this, man. Thank you for turned me onto this. Do you know about about that is it is it really to drum kits on either side left, and right or is it just well miked one kit. I'm not sure. Okay. Sure on that. But you know, you know, he is he is a producer. So it's like the production quality on his own songs as yeah. It's going to be good. Yeah. But you know. You know, he did, you know, working with like Peter Gabriel and working with you to like on October baby album. You know, this is guy. That's very well works with percussion in instruments and beats really well. You know, he I've seen a lot of watch Lada interviews with them. So, you know, he collects he has a he has some digital boxes. He calls like a beat orphanage rehouse like sound beats stuff. So. Yeah. You know, so he'll mixed it. He will mix together other elements. You know, you know, maybe he had a live drum kit with some beets mixed over it or he had to junkets, really. Well, Mike went I'm not sure. Yeah. But I did see I did see drum kit in in his in his place in his studio. And there was a guy there with me. He was drummer. And he was telling me about this snare, and the name is gone on my mind because her that's a really rare like hard to find snare that that dry and had this like really nice inlays on the side. Like brass facing? So, but but yeah, I know I I've also heard interviews raise like when people come to my studio. I just encourage them to play my drums. We have them set up the way I want them. You know, you know, so, but yeah. And I love the way it begins. It begins with that beat kind of a steady beat a sound. There's a sound generating that kind of sounds like it's almost coming off the snare because it's like in tune with the drum. Yeah. That tone, you know, that's going, and then the base comes in kind of carry in a melody. And then you hear the tar come in very subtly. Plays a like A Gibson. You know, and it's like his Gibson sound is always like a very clean tone with some of the some of the effects laid over it. So like in the case of the song, y'all revere clean tone with kind of like a little bit of hair a little bit fuzzy clean tone that comes in and really just kind of informs the rest of the sound rather than dominating it. You know? So yeah, we the production on the song. And I hadn't heard it in headphones awhile. Honestly. So it was really nice to hear that films. But yeah. And just lyrically and I love his singing. And I love the lyrics are wonderful. And you know, and it's just again, it's it's a spiritual message of where will I be, you know, and you know, in that last verse is like talk in feeling Hugh in the skies, all the way, though, still bars. Calm down calling in the cracks on all the way down and come all the way back up in butcher them. But you know, that's a that's a lot of struggle there. A lot of metaphor for struggle. But he's like where will I be, you know? So again, there's kind of like a acknowledgement of spiritual journey, but an honesty of where you are. And where you're going. You know that I really connect with that song. Yeah. So. That that song always makes me think I've heard hundreds of times. But I always think every time I hear I mean, that's that's what it's that's what good art is supposed to do. Yeah. I mean, there's there's your pop songs there's, you know, do run run and do the locomotion or whatever which are just are fun. But the stuff that that really gets under people's skin is stuff. Like this. You know? And and what we've what we've learned is. You know that the anxiety the struggle that as artists we go through every day, especially, you know, trying to walk the line between art and commerce as you are both doing right now, it's not an easy thing to do and stuff like this keeps us grounded because otherwise we're spending plates going. What are we gonna do manager this book done? You know, all this stuff to do. I don't have time to do a podcast with powers. What am I doing, you know, and and the spiritual element of music like this allows us to get grounded. And and realize that it's a process it's a journey. You know, we're slugging it out as long as we as long as got breath in our lungs. You know, and we're not hurting anybody. We're we're moving forward, and you keep in mind. You're like, okay. This is why do it? Yes. Man. I just I'm so knocked out by the production on that. And the way that the drums are Mike throughout that. I'm gonna play that again sometime. Yeah. Good. Good. Glad you like it. Is there anything else? You wanna you want to mention about it, you you're literally in the room where this record was recorded. Not at the same time recorded that you were in in that room. I'm not sure where he recorded that songs that was several years ago. But it might have been at that home. I don't know how long it's been at the at the the home here in LA, God, he's had like like, I know you took a lot of photos of his home in New Orleans where you're rewarded for so allow a Coty. Okay. And so he had a studio set up there. But but yeah. So I've looked I've looked at a lot of interviews and stuff studios on it. But I have been in the studio where he recorded a lot of stuff you may require that song there. I'm not. I'm not one hundred percent. But yeah, it was I saw all the instruments stuff and all the boards. I'm sure that we're used to record this arm for sure. Yeah. Right. Tell me about Hartson bones the next cut. All right. Well, this is a this is a musician that everybody knows Paul Simon. So him. Yeah. I'm a I'm a huge fan of Paul Simon. So again, it's a similar sort of thing. You know, it's like, it's interesting. Simon and Garfunkel when the their first album Wednesday nine AM, you know, it's the the the first song on that is go tell it on the mountain. You know, it's like kind of rewritten reworked version, but it's it's a gospel song, you know, and, you know, I, you know, and they come from Jewish backgrounds. I don't know what they're you know, what their convictions are what have you? But Paul Simon throughout his career is always been very spiritual in his lyrics, and he talks about talks about God. He talks about Jesus a lot, you know. And in ways that make you think you know, it's like usually when he talks about Christ in a song. It's really interesting and kind of satirical and funny, but respectful way, you know, which I always really appreciated about him so Hartson bone. So this was and this is connected to how I started writing for the first time. So this is kind of personal story that I hope people find interesting, but so Brendan I finished is my wife. For those of you haven't met her. She's wonderful. But we were living in Orlando's is we're from Florida. She's from Miami originally, I'm from Orlando. We met in college at UCF, we've got married pretty soon after college. And so we were in Orlando, and we were studying workshop theater with Kenya. Lows from New York produced playwright New Yorker Woodward playwright in author and actor and acting coach into so we were a member of his workshop for four or five years producing workshop theatre plays acting and writing direct. It was a really wonderful time of of training. And that's how I learned how to write was mentoring. With with Ken mentoring me. So I went to his writing workshop for the first time, and I was like, okay. I wanna write a movie, you know, I'd written some plays short scenes and stuff on what I want to write a movie now on start writing movies, right? Right. In so. I I was reading a lot of plays at the time. And I was reading a lot of tense, Tennessee Williams, Arthur Miller and stuff to kind of really get involved in knowing about the theater, and I actually just watched the old black and white film of night of the Guana. Starring Richard Burton. Yeah. Let's Tennessee Williams at tation. And you know, it's about this defrocked minister who goes down to Mexico kind of on this bender and up at, you know, a monastery, and, you know, a lot of soul searching and heavy I it, it's it's very transient dental, which is you know, what Tennessee Williams did, you know, but like the the monologue and the oh after I should look this up before we start talking about, but the the female star of the film and who's a very famous actor. And I forget who she was she has his monologue. At the end that I haven't gone and looked it up since I'm not going to watch the movie again some day watch it acted. I'm not gonna go read it because it was just so dreamy and transit dental about just the spiritual condition where they're going what they're doing. Lives and the language and the performance were so amazing. So neither Guana was about going down to Mexico. Right. And then Paul Simon had the song, which I had heard for the first time called Hartson bones. And it's a very sad song about apparently when you listen to it. It's about him and his wife are in trouble, you know, a troubled marriage, and they go down to Mexico on a whim to, you know, spend some time together and try to fix things. And you know at the beginning of the song, he says sangre de Cristo and blood of Christ down in Mexico. And there was something that that that particular that song interwoven with having seen that movie that it was like somebody's down in Mexico looking for the blood of Christ. It was pretty heavy you know, and trying to fix their lives at the same time. Richard Burton, you know, who's defrocked priest and he was drunk and he's life as a mess now you've got Paul Simon. And I think Carrie Fisher, probably down in Mexico. Trying to fix things, you know. And you know, the thing about this song that makes it so difficult. So hard is like our souls are intertwined, but we are falling apart. So how can this be you know, he's talking about Hartson bones? Like our bodies, our one our souls are one, but we're in big trouble. You know is kind of the crux of the song. It's very sad. But anyways, so all this just spiritual journey down in Mexico. I that's what prompted me to write my first film script, and it was called Hartson bones. And. Ended up being kind of this kind of light hearted adventure story about this guy. Who's at gangster who has to go collect this package and ends up being the woman that he's supposed to take up to this other drug Lord who's going to marry her, but he doesn't want to do this. And you know, he pictures her as his muse, and all this sort of thing, and they ended up on this crazy thing where they up in this like inside this mountain monastery with all these surrounded by monks and smoke in mystical weirdness and having visions, you know, it was a strange script. And you know, it wasn't perfect. But anyways. Yeah. So that that was kind of like the real start of a journey was seeing that movie the ninety on a hearing, the song parts, and bones that writing the script hearts and bones. And the funny thing was I was like twenty five and I was living in Orlando. I didn't know anything. And this is crazy. I I put it in the envelope. And I sent it to the endeavor agency before they merged with ROY Moore's, right? It to Patrick White's at de. Whatever agency. It said, hey, I think that's David should star in this movie because he was like just really big at the time. You know, I think David just in this movie, but a week later, I got a phone call for Petric white Sola differ agency. Are you ready to make Matt an offer? They read it. They liked it that much. That was amazing. And of course, completely fell apart very quickly. And then like, you know, the script early never moved from me other other than that afterwards. You know, I had a lot of bad criticisms on it after. But I'm like, you know, what that's just the way it goes over the hump, man. David lighted are David's agent liked it. So that was that was pretty insane. So, you know, and then I ended up writing another kind of story gangster story. It takes took takes place in Mexico right profit, which I which was my first graphic novel. I did with Anthony debt. You do. A we doing more together got that published by image. So anyway, so very long story. But Hartson bones was kind of the start of this big journey for me huge chapter in my life. Just as it writer because eventually ended up making comics ended eventually getting published by image comics, and that did well for me. So I guess that's all I can say. Yeah. Let's listen to to what kicked off. You know, let's call it Dan's literary career. Here's Paul Simon on the radio. One one half loaned to. To one that you. Are traveling. Sangra decrease the blood of Christ mount to Mexico. Last leg of journey. This started load. The are the fan. Rainbows in the desert. Mountain passes. Hearts. Parts. Thinking back to the season. Looking back creeks. The two people will the act was outrageous. The bride was contagious. Brian. Events may have had some on the man with the girl. The arkle. Hands rolling down and. Lag shaping too. Hearts. Cards. Hearts. Heart. She said why? We drive to the night we wake up down. No nothing about nothing. School until me. Won't you love for who? I am wear. He said 'cause that's not the way the world is. This is how low the. This is how on the. One in one half wandering Jew. Returned matchel. Tourism cleans step out cage. Speculate who had been? Time will determine if these consultations will be there reward. The are. Waiting to hear stole. You take to these twirl them. Their heart. Won't come on. Hearts. Hearts. Parts. Hearts. Title cut off Paul Simon's, nineteen eighty three album, Hartson bones. Interesting time to be Paul Simon nineteen Eighty-three. Yeah. Because this the inbetween or just prior to this album coming out just a little research while while it was playing the concert in central park with art Garfunkel had just taken place and one trick pony was the prior album and have you seen the movie? One trick pony. Now. I haven't seen the film. But but the soundtrack is incredible. Yeah. And I saw one trick pony because it is one of the few filmed appearances of the love and spoonful he hired the spoonful come in and play a play the ban in a party scene in the spoonful hadn't hadn't spoken to each other in probably eight or nine years, really. So the guys, you know, got together, and and and played the band in in the scene, and that was the whole motivation for me to go and see this movie, which you know, the the soundtrack albums grade. It's you know, it's it's a Paul Simon album. You you get all the fingerprints of Paul Simon album, you're out and just you know, it it just didn't land. But but oh, and then the the concert in central park was such an enormous thing. Right. And then this album, there's no hit single off this album, and it I checked billboard and it peaked at at thirty three. On the billboard chart. Yeah. It wasn't one of his big albums. Not a big album and then Graceland boom. Yeah. Right. Oh, yeah. And there's little elements of Graceland in the production of this. You know, the marimba, and and the harmonies and stuff like that as I'm listening to it. It's it's like, it's it's it's like reading Hemingway through Paul Simon's. I that's an interesting take on it. Yeah. You know? It's it's there's there's a lot of element in the story. The context of the story of the song. There's there's there's a lot of Hemingway themes, there's redemption, and and Mexico, and you know, the the very subtle interplay between two people who are very intimate, but disconnected. Yeah. Right. Which is something Paul Simon knew very well and continues, I suppose to know very well based on his current songwriting, and this there's a lot. There's a lot in that cut, man. Yeah. And and I can see how as a as a twenty something who doesn't really doesn't. Knows his arm from a whole McGrath. Yeah. You. You know? Attend to view the outside world based on what you consume, you know, and you, and you've you the outside world based on other people's experiences, and this is such a great this really summarizes the that that on we of being disconnected with someone that your intimate with. Yeah. You know, there's I mean there's there's that. That disappointment and emptiness that that's their that's reflected even in the voices that Paul Simon affects as he sings in character throughout this. So I mean, really what what an interesting six minutes of of music. You know? Yeah. Yeah. It was wonderful. I got to hear play live back in twenty twelve to because the first time I saw him you wanna tour staying, and they did a show together where they would swap songs and stuff, and it was wonderful show and the bowl that would that one was at staple center. I think I saw the bowl I saw him at the bowl last year for the farewell tour, and it was completely sold out a packed out show. And they're both amazing shows. But was the first time I saw him he played hearts and bones. I I was thinking, oh, we're going to hear some of the big hits because he's sharing a concert with staying in. You're going to hear the boxer, and you know, and certainly we did, but he came out and sang Hartson bone. And so to him one of his big songs, and I guess maybe to maybe to his hardcore fan base. That's a big song. But like it wasn't a hit song to the general public for. Sure. I don't know if you're going out if you're like, this is my farewell tour. Yeah. Right. The the people who are gonna come to your farewell to are your hardcore base. And if I were in that position, I would play the songs that are important to me. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe there's more to this song to Paul himself than either. You are I who are completely outside of any sphere of influence would know. Yes. This may resonate with a point in his life that because there is an uncharacteristically large amount of soul in Paul Simon put soul and just about everything he does. But there's a lot of soul. Yes. In this one. A lot of confession. Yes. I mean, it seems almost too personal movie. Just another song. Yes. Very much. So, but then, but yet it speaks to me, you know, it's his personal. It's spoken to me in some way, you know. So and by the way, I looked it up during the song it was Deborah Kerr. Who is the co star wanna who did that wonderful wonderful monologue that really helped get me down this road. Inspire me to start doing. I do. So there you go night of the Guana. Look it up on on Houston directed directed. So so look it up on on whatever streaming service. You subscribe to this is the coral courts radio hour, and we're going through an itinerary of songs list of songs assembled by my dear friend, Dan Corey. And man there there's I mean, we're not even halfway done. Man. We have we have covered a lot of ground here today. I'm kind of excited about the next cut about get out. Yeah. Yeah. Again, not knowing anything about it. What do I need to know about get out before it here it? Okay. So get out is the new single by bat farm that farmer. Dear friends of mine, so Alex Colinas and Dennis Morehouse. So there do oh. And they play live Alex plays guitar and sings and Dennis plays drums, but they kind of just do everything on their albums. They play all the instruments and seeing all the parts and everything. And they're wonderful friends. I met Alex probably about four years ago. Minaret Halloween party marine house pet it. So I met her there, and we just clicked and became friends immediately. But she's like one of the most insanely talented people. I know and she is like a decade plus younger than me, but is currently working on her seventh studio album. So that will give you an idea of that what this lady does, and she's an amazing musician, and she helped me out a lot like when I was when I was working on my blood worth comic. Like, we were kick-starting that like she let me some of the songs to us as as a soundtrack titles for the comic and helped promote that. So, you know, we have a connection in the comic, she became a character. And one of and blood worth we drew around as the character jammer. So you'll see her with when you read the comic and she's done. So many amazing things like there's the show called. Dance moms that our audience here probably hasn't watched. But whenever songs got on their like she got picked up for licensing for one of her song. Cry got picked up for licensing that ended up being like the start the all-time star that show this girl. They Mattie who who's a wonderful dancer did a dance to Alex's song. And like it was kind of like overnight after years of work thing. Sure, she was getting all this attention. And then she ended up going on the song on the show performing the song. And she's currently like like ten million views for the song on YouTube pres. Yeah. Yeah. So, but Alex is is pretty amazing and a really good friend. And so she and Denis together are bat farm, and this song has not we are debut lead it here. It is not been released yet. It's releasing March twenty fourth it's going to be on all the streaming services, and I tunes and it's going to be on the new album that they're working on right now. It's coming up. I actually last night spent I was up all night photographing them filming the video for the song. So I'm like, really? Tied into this song. And actually, Alex called me to come sing backup vocals on it. But I was really sick. And had no voice and couldn't do it. I was like, oh, no almost on the track. So just pretend it's me. But you wanna leave your mic open? You can you can leave. Your backup background vocals on. Let's not do that. Let's keep the integrity of the song. So this is Alex Kalisa and Dennis Morehouse as bat farm singing get out, and it is a rating through so the girl courts radio hours first world premiere single. Here's bad farm. Terrible. Really, do you see the sun? Only. Rosewood? Cross you you you don't even wanna know that both. Seven just to keep my Philps. Yeah. Dan that was ending and my old district training comes in. I'm like this is going to end cold. This is going to ensue pursue pursue per coal. And I hope it does. And it just bam right on the downbeat. You know, and I'm like, oh, yes. Cool. Excellent. All right. So that is that is the coral courts radio hours first world, premiere single, bad farm. This song is called get out. And in my old, Casey ninety five days. I would say that song kicks my ass. She for this woman is is roughly thirty I suppose, let's let's let's say she's twenty nine. And she's got this maturity in her voice, which is so good. You know, it and the the fuzz through the guitars is is really nice grabs. You it doesn't hit you over the head. The hook is nice and solid all the way through the drumming. The son of a gun who's playing drums on that? Man. That Phil at the end we out of time like comes back in. Oh, what a what a nice. And I, you know, we're listening to it. And I'm like, you know, on one hand you want to say it hearkens back to the late nineties when there were stations. Like, there was a format called Alice, which was female Centric, the the Alice station in Saint Louis assaults played Ruka salt. They had to do they had to do on a weekend. And on one hand this kinda gets in there. But definitely stands out stiff out because there's there's some there's some rock and roll heart. Yes in here and just like like a snarl that you don't get. Yeah. A lot of in a lot of what is commonly heard in female, fronted rock and roll. Yeah. She's like go ahead and being being it's okay. You know? Yes. She's got she's got stuff to be angry about and she's going to express it, you know, but she's also the nicest per the nicest people ever known. So that's there's that whole thing of you know, -nology where you know. From where you're going. You know? Yeah, she. Yeah. She wrote this. So it's you know, it's reflective of of her heart of of her soul while she maybe a sweet and relatively well adjusted. Anybody is in our universe. You know, there's you don't get to be beyond eighteen years old without some disappointment. And especially in the arts, right? You have to have some sort of life life experience, even you know, twenty five year old Dan Corey right in his movie there. There was some experience, you know, little bit that you drew on comedians are the same way that the great comedians, and even some that aren't so great like me. Right. Thank you. But they wrote their material based on on their life experience that truth. Whether it's in your music or your painting or your screenplays or your standup resonates better with an audience, and it tends to bring about a cleaner and more impressive. Art. This was not a manufactured cut. This isn't the hearts and flowers or anything that or it's not, you know, it's not it's not a jewel song. And I don't mean any disrespect to jewel. It's terrific. Does. Right. But this ain't in this just has this has. Yeah. This has fierceness to it that I really liked like. Yeah. Right from the right. Alex does with vocals and just with the way she expresses herself in last year. She she works for GHS strings, jazz like social media, and such for them and last year that she produced GHS showcase for women's month to help battled depression and gave the proceeds to write love on her arms, and she's really made a good way for self, and she's helping people in disapproved of her and she's pretty mazing. Well, then let these guys is there is there a bat farm website. And how will this new record be distributed? Okay. Yeah. So yes, you can find that farm on Instagram and on Twitter, all this all show, Facebook, and all the social outlets. It's one word that farm. So it's easy. And this they they are on streaming. They all they released a single from the new album already called six underground, which is a cover the speaker pimps it from the ninety. Right. So they they did a nice really interesting totally unique take on that and video on YouTube. If you wanna check it out just go to six underground about farm search for that. And this new song get out is going to be March twenty fourth. It's going to be released and all the streaming outlets Spotify whatnot, I tunes, and and if you're in southern California, they're gonna be playing the viper room on March twenty ninth. Nice so go see them. They are wonderful live. I don't we don't have release date for the full EP record right now. But it's going to be some time. Not too long jump on the band way because the most hipster. The most hipster thing that a coral courts radio, our listener, you know, this, you know, about this band way before anybody else, and if this cut is any indication of the talent and the product of this band at their young age, they're gonna huge this is going to be great. So we look forward to to hearing more from our friends at at bat farm anything else. You wanna you wanna say about this before we move onto the next cut? Gosh, you know, the production is great. I know that the friend Charlie way Meyer have met Charlie produced it, and I love the baseline on especially the opening like starts off that Keno sound then it comes in with Alex the base like raging. I heard the song for the first time at the benefit last year. They played it live. And I was like you guys that baseline has special. This is I think this is my favorite song years yet. So it's always nice. It's always nice. When the latest thing you've done is the best thing, which means because you've got so much more to go. So, but yeah, Alex, Dennis Batt, far men. Just just be on the lookout and go see what the viper room on the twenty ninth and download the new song. Download their song. I tunes right now. The six underground. Yeah. Go get the new one this one March twenty fourth they go suppose part with your three dollars. Believe me. An Alex has a ton of social or of solo albums on. I two Seuss. Look, Alex Khalil is Alex to Xs Kelly C A L S E on itunes. Download all albums. Yeah. By the mall, by them. All yes. All right. Let's move on from bat farm. Painted woman. Dan. Yes, that is cut number five on on your list kind of an unusual title. But this is a different source. Okay. Kind of thing. This is a film soundtrack. Okay. Yeah. Them sound dress to give you a little idea, historically, Dan. And I we don't do it every year, but more often than not we we have found ourselves together on record store day. Right. And we've had we've had a ball just hitting up some some neighborhood LA record store. Yeah. And every time, you know, I'm in my bins. And I'm poking around. I'm looking for stuff and every time I'm like, I wanna show Dan this like I wonder where he is always in the soundtracks, right? Then you're always you're always like, look, I found I found this cool weird weird weird stuff. And and those used record bins in the soundtrack section. I never did this movie existed. You know? So so there's always like this weird sub current of soundtrack records, or you know, what are you listening to right now on a soundtrack to this movie? Okay. All right, cool testing. That's how I sound. Yeah. Okay. So painted lady. What movie is this? It's called painted woman. Okay. And the film is called the title track. The film is called painted woman. And so my friend James cotton produced wrote and directed this film, right and stars. Steph Dawson who was in the hunger games movies. And also, my my friend. Laurel Harris is in it plays, a really wonderful part in the film Ellie, and Laura laurel is if you follow my Instagram social media, I I did a comic called blood worth which has about a female detective protagonist goes into people's minds to solve crimes, right? And we did a photo project with laurel as blood worth. So you'll see laurel all over my Instagram as my character blood worth in the rain, which imager Instagram handle at the danger cat danger ATT one word. Hey, go. So laurel stars in the film as well. And she's just wonderful. They they both did a wonderful job. Now, the soundtrack is by Corey Allen Jackson and James corden worked together a few times. Corey's a really cool guys local here, he does a lot of films, actually. Award winning composer has been nominated for a lot of awards. He won recently for he did the soundcheck to film, starring Leah Striber boxing film, called Chuck K. And that was set in the seventies. He did licata doors style rock and roll soundtrack for that. Right. And anyway, Corey did this now painted woman is is western film. And and it was James came on board the project, and you know, it was it was a small budget film. They're doing a western for small amount of money. So he made this miraculously happen. Right. You know, and he gets in there. And it's like it costs seventy thousand dollars just to ensure the horses on a Wester that's out. Everything's expensive making western he just pulled off a beautiful movie. Now, you know, he sent the script to me it was based on a novel, dusty Richards. I got the name, right, dusty Richards and. And based on a novel. So he wrote the script based on this novel. And, but he did it did it in a way that he knew that they could afford to shoot it and make it beautiful and make it a words worthy and ended up winning awards for it. But it's a it's a very transient dental film. You know, it's almost like Terrence Malick type thing, you know. And like James both Michael man fans, you know, so. And he did a movie called LA Alenia, the line wish gangster movie starring Ray Liotta and Andy Garcia, and that was that was kind of James's heat. You know? Okay. You got Danny trae. Oh. And there and he's like any got he got his many. Cast members from heat into the film as could. But you know, that has a very like angst ridden like transcendental slow quality to it. You know, ponderous quality to it Alenia does any brought that to painted woman with the, you know, we got a female protagonists that it's a it's a it's a it's about female empowerment about. This woman was basically escapes slavery and prostitution to discover you know, what life really has to offer when she meets the sky is a Mustang tamer. But the man doesn't save her life. She no, she she does it herself. But she does discover this relationship and this new community and what goodness in life can be. But then the bad element is fault follows her from former life into the town and has trouble. But like she ends up. She is solve to room problem. So and I don't want to say too much. But it's like it has a very good ending. Like, you don't see it coming the Indiana's very special and interesting. It's a wonderful film, and it's on itunes, and it's on do and all of the services right now. And it's vailable at WalMart on DVD. But okay, I'll say a little bit about what what I'll talk about the style of corey's composing after maybe after we listen to it. So this is the theme. So let's go ahead. And listen to it. Let's do the theme from pain and woman from the film by James cotton. Starring Stef Dawson, laurel Harris. That's for lack of a better term. Let's call it. The theme song the title cut on the soundtrack to a movie called painted woman. There's the. For the coral courts radio hour. We don't play a lot of orchestral stuff. And I'm struck by the power of the droning woodwind section throughout from being so evocative. I mean, clearly, this is the, you know, this is the opening credits. This is the and I would imagine through and I don't know this. But I would imagine through the course of the movie that that loping counter melody continues throughout the yeah. But, but what really caught me was you don't hear a lot of oboe on the coral courts radio. That's not a criticism. It's just it's an interesting will an unusual sound. Yeah. Right. And as the the woodwinds drone through that cut it. It's really vodka tive is is it a good indication of what's what's in store for the film. Yeah. I mean, the the song that this the song track itself tells? It tells kind of a story starts off very ominous. Yeah. And you know, kind of dangerous it kinda, you know, coy did a wonderful job. And again, composing Corey Allen Jackson. He did a wonderful job in composing this in that it sounds like a period piece in that were using all clock sound and we're using acoustic instruments, right? But it's got a very modern field to into that is very minimal in a way, you know, there's a minimalism repetition to it. That's very, you know, it's like you said that lows U N, but he starts off at the very minor key thing with the strings and the piano comes in kind of setting the mood. It kind of comes to a kind of a hopeful swell on the bridge where it kind of develops really kicks in it gives you the sense of hope that kind of comes back to the main theme of well, this is what we're dealing with an ends on a very dark minor with the cello. You know in a very dark minor the sound so yeah, there's like it's there's this path to redemption. But there's having to deal with. Where you've come from again, which has been the recurring thing to everything I've picked here today. And that's yeah. Every every single time. Yes. You learn that about yourself when you pull this list, my listed exactly the same thing. I think it's interesting that this song begins and ends on the same point and the same note. Yeah. So that you could theoretically loop together forever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Really weird and James, the spiritual guy too. And he thinks in those terms and his filmmaking. And that's why he does this kind of trend dental kind of pace and style to his films is because you know, it's what happens in between what they're saying. That's the really important stuff. Yeah. Gives a life to the movie. But yeah, but yeah, just be on look from where from Corey Allen Jackson. He's a wonderful composer. And he's working constantly. So you'll see name on credits. More and more right on we love that. And and the painted woman is available wherever you get your movies everywhere ever movies available. Yes. On man L, and I'll just say they won one while bunch film festival. Best actress for staff, and then best film and James went best director at that festival. He also invest director at the Manchester, film international film festival for this film. And I mean, that's that's impressive in and of itself. But the fact that this is a western which is a genre. That most people don't take very seriously. You know? Yeah. That's that's really cool. Yeah. That's really cool. There's a lot of lot of export territory. I think in the western John. Yeah. All right. Well, we are at the halfway point of this. So why don't we take a real quick short short break? And we'll be back with yet. More from Daniel Corey goodness. Hopefully right after. Stage. Just. The album is called stage fright. The. You wanna start? The group is called the band. Stagefright the third album by the band. Stagefright the band on capitol. All the and the band plays on. Welcome back to the coral courts radio hour presentation of deep dish radio host and producer. And all around knucklehead. Tim powers in. This is my radio show today, we are joined by my dear friend and music aficionado musician, himself, writer, Comecon personality and. All around swell fella and early adapter of all kinds of great technology. Mr. Daniel Corey, Dan, thanks man for being a part of this. You know, I've known you know, dozen years or so, and we sat across microphones many, many times discussing your various books your projects and stuff like that. But when the mics are off you and I are talking about music, right? And we're always like we're like we're swapping songs like baseball cards, and I love that about us. Yeah. And and so when the idea for the show came up like I gotta Dan on this. Awesome. And you're like, okay. I got a list is gonna be a hundred songs lung. He got a pair it down. But if I could. Compare it down. So here we are going to love the way you make talk, by the way. Occur. All the time. She hates it. She's gonna be. Yes payback. By the way, that we miss you. And and you know, the next time that next time dance here. I hope you will sit in and chime in. The lovely. Mrs Corey is his is just as charming can be amazing. She really is. Let's let's go into the sixth track that you have you have picked for us. This is the river the river unbroken track by Russ Taff. Russ Taff was is one of my favorite might be my favorite human singing voice. You know, and he was a really popular Christian singer in the eighties nineties, and he's still around. But he's like a really big heyday at that point. Right. And he came out of reel gospel rooted, you know, type music and traditional southern gospel. Yeah. But he ended up kind of moving into more pop type stuff in the eighties, and like the, you know, the record labels like had him doing lots of different types of things. But he at some point he came back. He's like this is what I wanna do. And he did this album called the way home, which was very blues rock. It's Goss bowl blues rock southern rock and of a sound, and he did for most of what he did after that was all mainly just like hard, you know, kind of gospel southern rock type stuff because that's what he really wanted to do after kind of going through like being doing a lot of pop songs stuff. But when he one of his early things in the seventies. Now, you'll know the imperials. Yeah. Because of their connection to Elvis and. Yeah. So he was an early member of the imperials. So really, yeah. Yeah. Maybe you can fill the audience little bit imperials connection to Elvis, well, they sang with Elvis with Elvis on on a lot of the kings gospel albums, you know, the Jordan ears were great harmonize IRS. But when when the king cut Goss ball albums, right? It was those guys were behind him. Yeah. And then they. You know, I I saw an interview one of the founding members on it was a documentary on PBS of probably about twelve years ago. It was really wonderful about just about Elvis's gospel music. Yeah. I saw that. Yeah. Oh, yes. Wonderful wonderful. And and so he was saying how would Elvis did like his first gospel record with the imperials how it would that? He's like he credited that with the beginning of the Christian music movement as far as what we become contemporary Christian music because like the imperials came out that and did their own stuff. And we'll restaff came out of that, you know, but this is kind of like him kind of coming back to route gospel music and the album the way home, I've been listening to it for twenty seven years. I think now I still listen to it all the time. And this this particular track the river in broken when I picked because I thought this would be it's it's pleasing to general audience. I think you know, it's the gospel too. But it'd be very pleasing to general audience in that. It's just musically. Very solid and lyrics are about just, you know, it's kind of metaphor of waiting at the station for the train to come and says, where's the river on broken? So always assumed that was the name of the train. I'm not sure it was actually what that metaphor is. But I've always loved it. And the song takes on a neat. I always love it. When a song we get to the bridge section. Yeah. How it can take on a new life. But still same song the choir kicks in. And he sings it gets really soulful listened for that part coming up. But yeah, it's four four and a half minutes. Here's for the first time ever on the coral courts radio hour. Here's tap. Keep all the trend. Dream. Can. In the home. The. Russ path. Portuondo? Our verse time and probably not the last couple points dead. First of all. An incredible. Yeah. I mean, what an incredible voice, and I agree with your point that the middle eight bars in that song is where it really comes to life. It's a great record throughout. But those middle eight is really where it takes us. Interesting turn. Yeah. Right. There's larry. There's there's a choir. There's really another verse after that kinda hits. It's stride right there in the middle eight, and then just kind of goes on. Yeah. You know? And it's I thought it was lazy music appreciation to compare one record. You know, one artist with another saying sounds about this. But that record sounds very Springsteen. It sounds it sounds very the river. You know, the first three Springsteen albums right where he's got kind of a little bit of that Phil spector production. There's but there's some depth to it. And the the band is really tight and he's got at tambourine buried far backing in the mix. Right. And then there, and then the the the course just keeps rolling through the song. And it reminded me of what a Springsteen record would sound like Springsteen where a better singer. Well, again, this is one of these entrenched Nashville guys, you know, and everybody in that band is going to be like, the probably the best hardcore Nashville studio musicians, you know. Yeah. So this this is some of the really good quality stuff. That was coming out at the time that a lot of people probably didn't know about you know. Yeah. Because I mean, it could have been played on any any rock station. Absolutely. As a record. It's a great rock record. It's a good contemporary nineteen ninety two three four. Yeah. You know, rock and roll record. It just came out on the dove label or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was actually. Yeah. So program directors like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was fortunate. But yeah, you know, I I was I was happy to kind of expose this to a wider audience. You know, 'cause I love it. I love him. And he just recently. Had a biography come out, and there was a documentary film that I haven't had a chance to watch yet. They did fathom events about of a few months ago where played in some theaters stuff about his time at during his heyday, and he talks about hey, decades, long struggle alcoholism that was all going on at that time and how he's trying to reconcile trying to reconcile this kind of sort of. I guess double life from what they were saying, you know, what he was saying in the trailers, and such so, yeah, so stories continuing in interesting when he's out of that. Now, he's he's come out of the alcoholism. And all that. But he's he's had some real struggles. We hear that in the song now. So he's he's of that generation. Right. So he's in his his probably late sixties seventies something around. So he's been through some stuff, and he was part of the Nashville scene in the nineties. He saw something. And and and at a matching there's there's a journey way beyond what what his press people would like to think. Yeah. But the. Again, there's some some deep conviction and soul in this record. Tell me about where it resonates with Daniel Corey. You know, I I'm not sure how I connected to it. As like, a fourteen year old whatever I just really liked the sound, you know. And there was there was a sense of the struggle. And all that that you know, when you hear that stuff as a kid, you think that sounds cool. It gets you thinking in those terms. There was a thing that I knew about the life of head of me, especially the life of, you know, Christian person in a spiritual person that was going to be going to be tough. And I knew that and the song the songs were really expressing that to me, but also really cool almost kind of Neo soul southern way that I just love hearing. And but it's one of those things when you grow up with this record, it it starts having more and more. Meaning like, oh, this is the thing that I was enchanted with that. I'm now experiencing. That I understand. Yeah. We could we could build a whole show around songs like that. I got to meet Mike Peters of the alarm awhile few years. And yeah. Such a wonderful sweet guy. Really nice, dude. And he wrote he wrote all these songs of the struggle Keats. The song strength is sunk spirit of seventy six which is about all this friends their struggles. And how somebody died ended up in jail and how he's trying to everybody trying to fight through life. You know, I love that song when I was a kid and now forty four I'm like, oh, I've experienced this. Now now told him that when I met him like your songs like I loved them when I was young. But really making sense to me now, I just want you to know that I grow the songs grew up with me. And I grew up with the songs, you know, he'd liked hearing that I think cool. So, but yeah, that was the I that's the experience with this rust half record here. You know, it's good record. Probably not the last time. We'll hear Russ Taff. I'm sure someone else will program it. Upcoming episode. Trek number eight the maker. Okay. Yeah. We got the maker this by Daniela. And this is we talked a lot about him previously. We played one of his songs previous at the beginning of the show. But so the maker is his big song. That's the that's the one. Like every time. I've seen in performing always ends the show with the song. This his American pie. This is American pie. Yes. It's a wonderful song. And a lot of people will know it from you know, he did the soundtrack to the film sling blade. Okay. The Billy Bob Thornton the one that really put him on the map and the credit song is the maker the song had been around on his nineteen eighty nine album Kati. It's the second track on that song on that album. So. And it's been covered by Willie Nelson did a cover of it with Emmylou Harris backup while tro album, which Daniel produce I believe in definitely plays guitar on that and one of the after after having seen sling blade. One of the first times I after that that I heard the song was I saw Willie Nelson on Letterman singing, the song Daniela while I was in his band guitar. Yeah. Just because he's just like going to play with Willie Nelson. That's pretty RAD. But. But it's wonderful song in the lyrics to the song. Again. It's about the spiritual path in life, and it's like tongue talking about the maker. And how we know the make our how am I strange to the maker do I know the makers the Nacre no me, and it's about a struggle with God, you know, but. But it good way in a good way. Because I think the resolution of the song is positive and good. Well, let's check that out get to that point. So here it is Cork's radio hour. Oh. Deep. Blogging. Stat. With. I. Twister. I'm a stranger. The maker. I could not see. My. Good enough. The fear in my line. From. Great. This. I saw bet. Law came to me. Make. And bro. Bothers law. This dangerously. The fees. Head. Strain to. Maker. Brother, john? Dada. Stand. Bro. I have seen. The. You'll see. You'll sleep. Cuts called the maker on the coral courts radio hour. Really? I love doing this so much because these are, you know, we've listened to ten zones I've never heard before my life. And you know, it's interesting kind of dreamy kind of existential, you know, questioning your place in the universe. Kind of kind of thing and tremendous musicianship Qataris on either side mixed far left and far. Right. Are really good. So while I'm listening to to the tires, Dan. What did I miss? Because there's obviously a theme in the in the Liles. Oh, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And something I should say that I meant to say before this is actually the original version. The original version is actually the production on it. It's a little more like the the first we heard from him. Yeah. The where will I be with a full band, you know, and it's also wonderful. But I picked this version which is off of a self released album called rockets where he basically covered his own song. Again, he did ruin dishes on some old songs, and it's a new songs on this rockets album to really cool album. But this one it says in the liner notes that he recorded this in his apartment in New York. I think he just did everything. So he tracked everything detract everything. Did it always single? It sounds like him seeing the back. He singing in a slightly lower key than it. Usually does something. So he could sing harmonies. That was my my thinking on that. So he did I think you just did everything it's no percussion just a little bit of base, and it's all stars and slide and he plays the the lap steel. It'll feel. Yeah. And, but yeah, the song is you know, it's about it's about a lot of things, and you could it's really open to say what it's about. But it's really, you know, I think it's it's mainly about his relationship with the maker about a relationship with God. And you know, the the second last I it's my favorite lyric says my body is Brent and broken by long dangerous sleep. Which is really always strikes me says back in work, the fields of Abraham and turn my head away. I'm not a stranger in the eyes of the maker. There's so much in that, you know, there's so much in that so heavy, you know, and another point in the song and earlier Versi says across the great divide in the distance. I saw a light. I saw Gianbattista walking to me with writer, and he's French-Canadian. So you talk about John the Baptist. Right. You know, that took me I had to put that together. Yeah. Oh, he means that zone that. Yes is like Esau Gianbattista walking. Me with the maker. You know from the cross the great divide. So he's kind of invoking this biblical vision in the song. So where it's pretty open into what the song means. I don't know what it means to him. Never heard him speak on it publicly. Can mean a lot to you. But to me, and I think I mean, I I would say probably a lot of the song Dan has to do with your relationship to God and your place in the world. I think is probably what it's mainly about. And just folks so much biblical imagery. And I like I love this version of it because it sounds like the the western version, and I remember my Brinda, and I were driving Phoenix a few years ago. Visit our fin Vivian and Dukan, of course. But we were driving across the desert, and I had just gotten this album K. Here's this new version the make you you haven't heard yet. We gotta play this. Okay. While we're driving across the desert, and it was just and driving. And we're just like, so, you know, you could hear a pin drop other than music plan. You could hear a pin drop in the car listening to this with the desert scrolling by eighty miles an hour listening to the song. It's you know. So I like to listen to this like drive on a highway or driving on the highway during dusk or something. Listen to the song, very of Akayev. It brings me into it brings into a moment. Yeah. Yes. Sounded like if you strip this song down, and it was just him. And a six string, right. Six string acoustic. This song could be one hundred twenty years old it the kind of spiritual. Spiritual existential thing that like a civil war soldier. We would would sing while he's you know, in between battles going where do I where do I fit in? Yeah. How do I how do I make sense of of what's going on in fact, as I was listening to it? I thought. I wondered if this was actually a century-old song. This was you know, some old early American folk church song. That's how he writes. He writes, like rights rights him style heard him speak on a lot, you know, plays the pedal steel. But like he said once an interview how he the pedal steel tuning has a lot of six nights in it. Right. Which is with jazz is so he'll tune those up to like unison with other strings. I basically write hymns, and I want to do something with fortune fits mainly. I guess seventh. Right. Which would be more him like in quality, which is a big influence on me. And my songwriting, you know, what what little long done, but you know, you know, kind of writing and stands as more than verse chorus bridge. You know, very him, Nick. Yeah. Very very very him. Like, and I've heard him do a lot live heard him do it with like gospel singers. And actually when I was at. Home. Yeah. He had a Hammond b three setup in in the in the foyer, and he somebody from his in his ban, Johnny shepherd this gentleman's name. Shreveport, had just moved the towns. The party supposed be celebrating welcome party for him. And so Johnny was playing the tree and to them sang the song together. Harmony just with just to be three back in it up. Cool is really cool edition might have video on fought. I'll show. Of all the things we don't have permission to play. I think that's probably one of the bright ones that we won't get into. All right moving moving on through Dan, corey's, existential on we. Finding his place in the world, which is admirable. In fact, I love the theme that has come through throughout this number seven is is deep in the heart, and again, another I haven't heard so. I'm in seven today. And so what we? Let's see. How does how does this? First of all how does this fit in with the rest of the playlist so deep in the heart. This is YouTube song. So I'm like, you know, we I spoken a lie about YouTube, and what would a big deal to me. Right. So, but I'm like, I gotta choose something that people probably haven't heard from them. We can't play when the big hits. So when they recorded the Joshua tree album. So this would be another track is produced by Mr. Lenoir, right and Brian Eno. So we're gonna hear something kind of an similar vein to what we just heard just executed in the U2. way. So this the Joshua tree was originally to be a double album. So they had a lot of songs that like twenty songs they ended up trimming it down to a single album, and then all the other songs ended up being besides. So you know, I whenever I can find this single LP's from Josh SRI L take him. I'll take one home because I can get this. Nice. Besides on vinyl, right? I wish we just got this on final which I was very happy to find. But they when they for the twentieth anniversary of the album about twelve years ago. They did a release where they released as double record know so Joshua, Josh too. Yeah. So the Joshua tree to albums. They call it. Then completion the besides. And it was kind of like restored to what the. Vision of the record was so deep in the heart was. Probably my favorite that. There's another one called Spanish is a lot of a lot of people. That's that's their favorite beside was both of those are b sides to sylling found what I'm looking for which is their hit song. So we'll have I'm looking for has besides Spanish is a cover. No now that as far as I know they wrote that. Okay. Yeah. There's a Spanish leather boots. Maybe that I was thinking of the the old Elmore Tino. Like, it's almost like a Sinatra e kind of song. No, it's not size. Yeah. Oh, because I know that I know the guys appropriate songs and. Yeah. Over them in their own way. Right. Every single time. I just wondered if they did do some Frank Sinatra stuff done. Some Motown covers and stuff. But this one is pretty original. The that Spanish is that they did is original song. They probably procreate the title and kind of did their own take on that. But so that Spanish is and deepen the harder both besides looking for and their two favorite besides from the Joshua tree collection. And so. Going back to the experience. I had when I was able to go to lend was home and hear him play with his band when we're in the studio we went to the studio and heard him play with his band. And he said what what about playing here is. We can really bring out the raindrop quality of the songs, you know, which is kind of like what we heard in this previous of the maker, right? It's different than the album track version, which is great too. But we got kind of the raindrop version of it. And you know, and so we're getting here here is kind of a rain YouTube kind of raindrop rendition of YouTube song, does it does Bill to this big wall of sounding and Jacquet climax, but it's very sparse. And there's a lot of space in the song. And you know, we socio you too with these giant anthems, you know, you know, these big celebrate Tori, anthems do do some quieter songs. You know, and this, you know. An album track that made it onto the main album for. For Josh, which we would be running to stand still, which is a piano ballad, which is one of two piano ballots that got released on album, the other would be like the first time which was on zero Pia album with Brian Eno on piano. So, but yeah, so that one the that that one is a quieter song that really stand still it's a quieter songs wins on the playlist. It's really known to fans and so deep in the heart would be to be an invasion of that in as far as the Josh retreat hip goes, and it has that rain tip quality that raindrop quality. You'll hear the bass come in and kind of carry the melody and the ATar is very just like it's Larry sound in the back. And when you get to the solo you'll hear like, it's almost like a cry cry. There's a lot of a lot of space. So we just give it listen. Speed is rose every. Still see? It's Joshua tree era U2.. As you sold the song to me, then I was expecting to have my mind blown hear something that sounded absolutely nothing like you too. And that was that was. I don't wanna say a typical U2. song. But it very much sounded like like, very raw. You know U2. song. What what I was expecting was kind of a basement tapes. You know, here we are not going around in our in our basement, right? And. Dawned on me as I was listening that maybe you to is not capable of sounding like a garage band. They just have their they have from nineteen Seventy-nine on. Yeah. They've had that that sound right. That has propelled their career. And they just they can't sound like a garage man is something to that. Because they got the talent to do it. But having not heard this record before. And you if you handed it to me and said all right where does this fit in? It'd be like this Joshua tree album. Isn't it like, no? But. But it's it's it's interesting. What sets this cut apart from the from the album tracks and from the from the bonus tracks what what is it that made you pull this one out of the out of the archives? Well, like, I said mainly because a lot of people haven't heard it. And I wanted to I didn't wanna I didn't wanna play still haven't found what I'm looking for on your show because you can play Philadelphia freedom in China, grow those make fun of but. But this this gets a pass because it's stuff. I haven't heard before. It's awesome. Great. Great. Yeah. But. Like, I said though, from you know, it stand apart in just kind of it has this mournful sound. And you know, it has this space in it. It's still, you know, it's especially listening to the headphones right now. Like, this is sonically. Let's bigger than I was selling it. But still I don't know just like that solo like the guitar bounces all around like like does. But. There is a lot. There's a lot of space. It's not that regime. You think of like we're streets have name where it's like this raging wall of sound with that, where's that term again, right or desire, just grabs? You by your holler. Yes. Really fast with lots of facts coming at you. This is like, you know, edges just like Lil teen around the edges of the. To be a pun there. But he's lilting all over the song and sonic wavy net. Yeah. All around your head spe. Yes. Yeah. As you're listening in headphones that those harmonica. They're I guess they're not really harmonic. But but you hear them move in space around your head, which is kind of an interesting. Yeah. Interesting production and something about an personally to me this song. Yes. The thing. Like this. This could soundtrack my dreams because without getting we've already gotten all existence pretentious on this already. So I'll just keep going suppose. Never. Okay. We've played we played three U2. connected songs yet. They use the word. Good for you. Restrained is amazing. But. But, but you know, I I I have regimes. I have recurring dreams about finding the clearing in the forest and finding this marble structure with giant columns and Michelangelo paintings on this high ceiling, you know, I like I in life. I love cities and I love urban landscapes and all this. In my dreams, I dream about desert plains and all these things that you've oak in the songs, that's one of the reasons and other reasons I love you too so much Joshua tree. And all this like, it evokes the language of my dreams, and this song in particular, and it song it's dealing with. You know, he's talking to a woman dealing with relationship and sex. But then again, it's also dealing with spiritual condition. So back to what we were talking about in the beginning all throughout where all this in Chuck Berry and all these guys coming from this is where I came from. This is what I'm dealing with. So that's kind of been the base of of YouTube career when I was first exposed to you too, which is probably nineteen Eighty-one Gloria. Yeah. Ever Tober album and. I remember being struck by who who are these young kids out of out of Ireland, you know, singing in Latin Latin and they had you know, they have this really interesting sound. And my impression was I dismiss them out of hand because I. They had been sold to me as as a religious band as as a Christian band. Well. Sorry, guys. And then they got huge and huge huge huge. And. I mean, there's no denying that the talent in that ban their body of work certainly stands on its own. But you know, you too, and I got off to a rocky start. I am I'll tell you. I loved Gloria when I was when I was doing college radio in the glory days in the golden age of college radio the late eighties. Right. When IRA was a was a. Records. Stuff in man, I was a program director, and I was at the epicenter of stuff. And like, I remember I was the first jockey and Saint Louis to play desire off rattling home really didn't like it at all. In fact, I think I may have stopped the record actually on vinyl in the middle of the track. Just because. It was it was too loud. Right. And and I I made the mistake of not. Not previewing it before I went on the air. And it was like this is not what I wanted to play tonight. So rather than be a professional and let it play out. I was a punk and stopped in the middle and was snarky about it. Sorry. I apologize. I apologize to the the nice guy from the record company who gave me the disk, and I apologize to you to legion. Legion of fans. Wow. Thirty years later. I'm sorry. We're we are just like having come to Jesus moment right now. That's what I'm gonna call this show. Yes. Of course radio comes to Jesus. Excellent. Interesting. The title is interesting as as it evokes, the human condition and the battle between. Between the flesh and the spirit. Yeah. Which is also a theme throughout U2.'s work. Yeah. -solutely so. Yeah. Thank you for turning me on that. It's that's that's an interesting. An interesting perspective on you to that. I hit never had before. And I don't think I ever told you my YouTube origin story and how we got on a bed. But why why would you would you love them? You love them so much and bring them up to me, and I and I of always respectful silence. And it's because of that story because I have a history with this man where it just. We never caught on. And when the Joshua tree was huge. I was still dismissing them out, and as as nothing and at the same time was discovering bands at twenty and thirty years older and was digging that and this missed a lot of contemporary music. I said to a dear friend. Who I knew growing up in the in the eighties that if. If a lot of that music had existed purely sonically at the time, if the music of the eighties existed purely as as music, an MTV did not exist. I probably would have been way more open minded with the music that I heard but dismissed a lot of it because I didn't like the way that it was packaged. I you know, I thought I didn't like videos. I didn't like, you know, the waves guys looked are acted or I thought the video stupid. So consequently, the music associated with it was stupid, which was very limited on my my Alec at the time. And what happened was I missed out on some some really interesting stuff that a lot of people have on cassette. And you too. I'm afraid fell victim of that. And now approach this. This this age that I'm going to I am reexamining a lot of stuff you to among them. I don't know that I will be Daniel Corey level U2. fan. But then you could come to more of an appreciation. Yes. Absolutely. And really that was one of the impetus behind this show was for me to get out of my comfort zone. And appreciate something that other people will bring to the table and Ken, nap izaak in Brad Schreiber in the people who have sat on that couch and brought music in have opened my eyes to something that I haven't heard so I love this. And hearing a thirty five year old U2. song. You know is kind of like kind of like climbing a hidden Beatles track right where and I hate the hate the analogy between you two the Beatles. But they are they're that big in the universe. You know, where you find something you've never heard before. All right, cool. And that song sounded exactly like Hugh to song. But never heard it before. And could could as we're going through this exercise? I can hear it through your years and mine at the same time. So that's really cool. We have three more cuts. And so tell me about company about ghosts story. Okay. So and this one really is just purely more of a personal memory story for me. So go story is is a track by staying it was on his brand new day album, which came out in nineteen ninety nine. And that's kind of saw a new kind of a resurgence for him. You know, as far as being on the on the radio again, and such he got onto a there was a car commercial song desert rose was remixed as a club remix and got onto. I think. Okay. I forget which car brand. But it got onto a luxury car brand commercials. And it became a big hit. And then the so this album came huge. And I went to see him on this tours for some Assan. No. It's the second time I saw him. But anyway, it was like one of the first concerts. I went to with with my wife, Brenda. But this album came out just a few months before I was married before we got married, and I was listening to a lot then. And so and the sun goes story is just about kind of remembering a a love from awhile ago somebody that from years past he has a memory. He finds something remembers. I really love this person, you know, now, and it's so it's very sad. It's very sad. But he wrote a musical play. It was on Broadway. I went to see in previews on what the music for. And they use the song in it. In the context of the play is the character singing about his father when you listen to. It's like, oh, and like stink talks a lot about his relationship with his father. So like, oh, it's about his relationship with his father. You know? So you know, you could apply to a romantic love relationship or to the love of a family member. Or any kind of like, you know, friendship love what have you when you think about it? When it's just this memory of all this person was really important to me. And now, they're gone. You know, so it's a very sad song. But it came out a few months before we were married, and I was listening to the album Allott, and when we were moving in to our apartment where we're gonna live together. I remember we had the TV and VCR setup. I and we were living right around the corner from blockbuster video is tell you when this when this is happening. And I've never been telling me she's like, I rented streetcar named desire. It'd be just right. Wanna watch it? I'm like, okay. So. So you're talking about Tennessee Williams, again, which is funny because this is like before I really got into the theater. This is actually started my journey into the theater and writing all this. So we watched streetcar named desire with the Marlon Brando classic. And I was just blown away with how wonderful and amazing this movie was and I'll sublime it was the first time it was probably the first time. But it really struck home to me. It's like, oh my gosh. The life of these actors performances characters are taking on a whole life separate from the material. And it's really everything's coming together. And to such miraculous thing watching this movie and so. Brinton I kind of had this little clubhouse because we both had our places, but that we were moving into this place. We'd hang out clubhouse Cardi desire, and I was listening to sting album and go story released it out to me. It's all intertwined to be. So it's just a memory of that time for me. So cool. Let's give it a listen here sting quartz radio hour. Listers sky. Says. Kill. Juice. The case. Kush. Don't. No. Nineteen ninety nine in the brand new Dale, right? Yep. Yeah. I'm. Very sting very very well done evocative of of that. Of reviewing your life's thing is really good and looking back on life. And and. An address ING past life. Pain thing is really really good at that is his solo stuff. Stings sting has the ability to be just a bad ass Rockin roller. Yeah. No. And when you've seen him play live or if you've ever seen him sit in with anybody else. Right. He tears it up. Yeah. I I saw the police reunion tour back to two thousand seven oh my gosh. It was miraculous. Those three guys that it was just the three guys making all that sound. Yes. It raged. It rocked it roll. It was pretty amazing. It really was. And so, you know. American audiences have a hard time seeing people beyond their first impression, right, actually, artistic endeavor. If if you're that guy from the police, you're that guy for the police. And and I always felt kind of disappointed that that stinks solo work ended up being on so many soft rock, you know, your your station at the office point five, and you know, so much of his solo stuff ended up on there. But those were the hits those are those were the the one the old tat. And those were the cuts that drove the album sale. But you go a couple tracks deep you really good. Get some art. Yeah. It's great. You know, people can people can pick on sting for being a little self important, self indulgent. But at the end of the day, he really has proven to be a reflective artists in the songwriter. And it's no surprise to me hearing this this record for the first time that it was adapted to Broadway. And my understanding is that in the Broadway version, there's a dialogue between characters in the body of the song. Have you heard that? Well, you saw the play. Yeah. I saw it. I saw it in previews. I so I don't know. I don't remember second. 'cause I'm in that moment in your memory right now. But it might have changed. They might have brought a scene into the middle the song. I don't think I had seen in the middle of song when I saw it. But I said it was a previous. But yet would be interesting to see that version of the song with with the scene in the middle of it. I know he's singing to his father's grave play play. Yeah. And certain line song as look at my hands and those of your hands. I was like oh, yes. Do you stuck in my father? I didn't which I didn't realize you know, when I was hearing the song, but. But yeah, you know, it's like you said, you summed up pretty well. It's like dealing with pass life paying, you know, in in in in a positive way, you know, because he's like, you know, I guess I loved you, you know, and that's very sad. But you know, it's also good. It's also good. It's healthy. It's healing its closure. Man. I mean. You know, I. Coming coming up to a milestone year than that. I am you know, and you'll be there shoot enough young. You know, you guys like you and me tend to tend to look back on our life and go how in the world that I did I get to this point. And. You know, I have spent a lot of time deep mired deep in regret. You know, should have gone this way. I should have done this. Or, you know, this didn't go the way that I wanted. And I am very very fortunate to be where I am right now. I mean things have never been better for me. And if I'm not careful I can fall into that misery of wha-. Wasn't it always like that? Yeah. And there there comes a point where you have to work the rubik's cube of your of your young, man brain. Yes. And go I was a flawed human being and people hurt me. I hurt. I hurt people. I'm sorry for what I did. And you know, like the old saying says if you can make an apology to set things, right? As long hurt anybody, and you can make that apology go for it. But at the end of the day, the person you wake up with every day is yourself, and you've got gotta make peace with with yourself carrying that pain for for, you know, decades longer than it needs to really just just shorten your life. And and I think that's where a lot of music this last cut kinda resonates with people because you can just go. Okay mic. Put it down. You know, I'm sorry that things didn't work out. But. At the time. I was very much there. It's weird. It's very. Various and finding all that through its things on. Interesting. It's nice that album brand new day. Nineteen ninety nine has been remastered in two five point one surround a bet that it's interesting. I'll bet the arrangements are really really interesting in a surround sounded violent love. Love to hear but not on this show because we're just in stereo. Oh my gosh. Anything else you want to add about about Gordon? Gordon, the whole album is really good. And yeah, if you if you haven't heard it, I I'd recommend I'd recommend checking it out. And just a quick stylistic note on the song as interesting in that it is somewhat minimalistic in its in the way begins the weight develops throughout because usually socio sting's solo work with complex jazz arrangements. That's starts off the very simple riff on the Nyland string guitar that kind of repeats throughout the song builds and builds and it's not like a verse chorus verse chorus kind of thing it's just like a collection of verses that kind of climaxes into this bridge. And then. Yeah. And then he sings final verse in it kind of softens. Yeah. So stylistically it's very interesting for him. And it's also just generally beautiful and mice to hear right on. So they pick up that album wherever you get your records, the next cut is this is the road. Yeah. All right. Your posture? So where we going with this? So this is Peter Gabriel. Okay. So and of course, he's a huge artists. And I'm like, I'm gonna pick something. So obscure. This was a download from his website a number of the club, a member of the full moon fan club ten years ago twelve years ago, you could download this song. So I don't think it's been available any other way. But it may maybe maybe it's had some of scare European release. I don't know. But you're in it here. Yeah. Man. Yeah. This actually became was part of a development became another song. He he did a song called tomorrow today on his ovo album, which he wrote for the millennium celebration in London for the millennium dome celebration he soundtracks that moon. Don't experiencing released took the music from that and mixed it into an album called ovo and make tomorrow today is on their Richie havens is all over that album, by the way. Yeah. Yeah. Which is any sounds sounds amazing. Peter Gabriel sing together. Sounds amazing. I've gotta hear this here this. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's some beautiful work on there. But so this is the road is an early version, so the tune, the the melody is very similar lyrics are completely different. And. I just I do like this version of the song. I like as its own song. Yeah. It's. It's funny because it's kind of it's it's relatively simple because it's kind of a demo track. But it's still sounds like Peter Gabriel's just like you're saying like you can't sound like a garage band. Gabriel can't sound like just like some guy at a piano, or whatever, you know. Sounds like Peter Gabriel never never sit on a bar stool with with a six string. James Taylor for you. Yeah. That's never going to happen. So this is kind of like Peter Gabriel in a relatively strip down simpler version of a song. But it sounds like a Peter Gabriel song. And you know, it's it's sad. But kind of hopeful message about another about about marriage. You know, so that, you know, we're dealing with some of these guys they're deal with marriage crisis. Got Paul Simon and Peter Gabriel kind of dealing with the same sort of thing. And so, yeah, we'll check it is known for their for their solid marriages. And boy, all right kidding aside. Here's Peter Gabriel. The coral courts radio hour. Peter gabriel. This is the road. You gotta love artist like Peter Gabriel who came out of such an enormous ban. Like like Genesis, right? And so was such a huge album and the talent EMMY the artistry, let goes into it where even Peter Gabriel's basement tapes sound ten times better produced and thought out than, you know, the rare in scratchy cassette tapes that that a lot of huge fans. Have started a song with guys listen to this? You know, it's, you know, your your little real the real recorder. You know, let's lay this down real quick where where even just a throwaway track that he just he distributes justifaction is produced so. And I mean, it's unmistakably Peter Gabriel question about it. I was surprised to hear. A classical guitar so well fronted in in the mix, you know, it it always surprised to hear guitar in for lack of a better term kind of progressive. Yeah. Alternative music. Especially classical, you know. And and I wonder I don't know this well enough, maybe my classical music friends would know better. But it sounds like this is based on a classical piece, you know, the tonality and the the way that the court structure works is is evocative of some classical music. I wonder if the melody is based on a concerto or something like that. Oh, yeah. That's interesting. I mean, because you know, 'cause a lot of the stuff they were doing Genesis is kind of like really evolved from English folk songs from one hundred years before you know, what I mean so there. Yeah. There's it's always gonna be kinda rooted in some sort of classical or folk type of tradition, you know, with him. So that's that's a good observation for sure an interesting thing about this song is structurally. It's really bounces around this. Yeah. Short. Yeah. Like, three minutes long. And it's it's movements. Yeah. Yeah. Movements to it. Yeah. And it's it's part of it is I think trying to find the song. But in the end result point, it all sounds so unified in nicely produce as you said, I'm accepting that as the final product, you know, what I mean? Yeah. Because it just yeah. Thinking of in terms of being movements because there's like three different types of versus he does. And he kind of comes back at the end and repeats the refrain from this. This is the road repaint from the very beginning. So it rounds out nicely. And it's yeah. It's kind of like, I know it's like a Peter Gabriel, piano ballads sort of to you know. No. And you got some nylon string guitar in there. And it's a little more strip down, you know. But it still sounds like via Gabriel very much sounds like Peter Gabriel even even strip down. Peter. Gabriel sounds super produced. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not a negative. Takeaway that it sounds super produced. You know, the best bands in the world have super produced albums Abbey Road is a is a is a classic. You know, it's it's produced. Peter Gabriel's basement tape just sound slick as anything, it's great. And you're right. It is kinda him stumbling to find a handhold for the song. And it's I think it's telling that it has been released in other versions with completely different lyrics. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. But you know, it's interesting. We saw him at the Hollywood bowl a few years ago. He did a thing when he came out and he played piano. And he's like here's a song. I'm working on and play the piano and saying he had no lyrics. Dislike vocalized, saying this entire melody this entire song write lyrics that. You know is like this is usually start songs and I'll call friends over and we'll play something. And so you had a guy come out and play accordion had a guy come out and play bass at a guy come out play Cousteau guitar, and they did is song. Come talk to me, which is the opening track from his us album, which huge thing with bagpipes and all this. But when they played it just those. Four acoustic instruments, and it's everything was so spot on the time and everything so perfect again. Yeah, it's like, oh, this is very slick and produced even though is just four guys on acoustic instruments stripped down version of the song. So, but you know, that's why that's what I love him so much I love musician earnings, so good. All right. Well, there you go. Peter gave you our last cut our final cut. Yes. The final cut the final cut an inferior Pink Floyd album, the final cut. This is. I saw the title. And I don't think this is the cut that I think it is it's called bad reputation. Clearly, not the Joan Jett cut. No. Not that at all. I was like the core is gonna play gonna play runaways for me. Okay. So so what do I need to know about bad reputation? So this is by free Johnston. And this has been on my mind because I had the pleasure seen him perform it live at the Namm show a few weeks ago, so nam for those who don't know is that huge convention that happens yearly in Anaheim. And we'll happens a couple of a couple of a winter Namm a summer Namm. I think the summers in Nashville at sure, but at the winter Namm here in L A at Anaheim. And it's a it's music products show. So all the tar and all the microphone manufacturers and all this together over people go to check out the year. Yeah. And win full-time and Alex who works GHS strings outsca. Lease. We played her song get out earlier. She, you know, had be able to get to the show as a guest GHS. I was very happy about that. And I just I played so many guitars my fingers, we're just gonna fall off. But. Free was playing a set at the Sennheiser booth. I saw that on the schedule. And that was the one thing like I put together my schedule the beginning to show. And then when I got there I was all out though. And I just like saw everything everything is as it came without. But was the one thing that I planned on that I went and saw for sure was free Johnston do in the set at the Sennheiser booth. Okay. And he had. So he plays guitar and sings and he had sue Bara shaved riot from the smithereens. Say his name. Yes. Yeah. He was playing basis singing harmony, and they did they did a said about seven or eight songs and. So you had this album called this perfect world came out in nineteen ninety four and again shout out to my buddy, Brian Mitchell from high school college, we solicited that album together and Brenda my wife. I with the first two years, we were married. She got me the CD. From birthday when year? So this perfect world. We listen to that a lot and the sung bad reputation had a really nice life on radio and early mid nineties. So this would be his his big song. And it's just so the melody is so nice and just it's nice. Where do you song? Really? Catchy. Melody? And the the the lyrics just roll is just that. It's a really nice song. And yeah, let's listen to we talk about a little more. Got a bad reputation at it is interest charge. Good. Ever. Haven't god. No bird is gonna. Break. Do you? Do you? There was this glory as superior in the early nineties where a lot of contemporary pop rock and roll pop had that jangle birds guitar. Yeah. You know, that that twelve string Rickenbacker, you know. Yeah. And or sometimes it was an acoustic twelve string that was way up front in the mix, and it was such a such a fun time. Yes. Absolutely. Definitely in there. And man, I I haven't heard I've heard this cut. But I haven't heard it in probably twenty five years, and it is so vodka tive of that time, you know, brings me right back to where I was in nineteen ninety six or ninety seven. But and and it's it's such a song of that time. And I just love the sound and the production and everything on it. And the and the in the heartbreak out, but you picked it. So tell me. You know that line says down in Harold square looking through the crowd, your faces everywhere. I just that. I love that line so much. I don't know what I don't know what herald square is. But this there's something really personal important about herald square. And that when he goes there, he just sees her everywhere. You know, I don't know. I don't know what it is just. It has a nice ring to it. Suddenly down in herald square looking in the crowd, your faces everywhere it first of all it kind of reminds me. It's like something here in a Beatles song or something. But then, you know, I it's just the way he executes that line and through the whole song. It's like I said it's really worried, but the the melody is just so spot on massively written pop song. It's just one of the, you know, and it's like one of the best probably of of this genre of the ninety. Yeah. You bet and it holds up as a decent song to a lot of songs that that that rise up out of that era or out of the eighties, which were essentially just novelty songs. Yes. People remember them because they're he'll he'll remember that song. Yeah. But this this is really a good time capsule of that era. And a damn good song. And it really I mean, it could have been released twenty thirty years earlier or to be released today. Yeah. Because it does have this sound almost like a sixties pop or type of thing to it. You know? The birds thing. Yeah. I mean, it could have been like a bird's type song or or or something of that ilk. For sure and. Yeah, when you hear it now, it's like the the productions not dated in any way doesn't have gated drums or over the analog synthesizers mucking up the works. You know? Nobody's Nobis auto tuned. And there isn't you know, there's a hip hop beat behind it not that there's anything. Hip hop beat and contemporary music lead. Absolutely belongs there. But yeah. This. You're right. It's just a good pop record. Yeah. Yeah. But also, you know time capsule for me. Remembering remember, you know, Dayton, Dayton, my wife early on remember, my buddy from high school and just. Yeah. It's just a nice memory for me. And there you go. So that's really where it is. So we have been examining the psyche through the. Through through a playlist of my, Dan. I'm so glad you did. This is fun. This was so much fun. So long everybody. Typical show. Really we're in our second hour already. So if you've had a long commute, we're glad you stuck around around through this. Yes, I am. So glad that that you did this. And I hope you'll come back and do it again. I would love to I wanna I wanna play a cut just actually I think I need to wonderful, especially given everything that that my friends, and I have been through in the last week. But but I do wanna get the word out about danger cat, and I wanna talk 'cause I'm such a fan of your comics. You know, even if we weren't POWs, I would be a fan of your comics because there's just so good. So I wanna I wanna let people know that your work on image is available, and I want you to promote that I wanna talk about some of the independent stuff that you've done recently. So well, I did I did called Moriarty, and I did called red city with image comics moriarty's about professor Moriarty from Sherlock Holmes as the anti hero leading man. And all I did Anthony artist on that. They've Lanphier did letters. I had Mike vase Berg, some of the art and Perry freeze did colors and published by image is a brilliant trade. Paperback, the second volume, I think is my favorite because I wrote I wrote the forward, right. That's right. Right. That is. Yeah. I like that story too. Yeah. So. But yeah, so we did Moriarty and I'll say one hundred years of Sherlock Holmes adaptations, we had the first professor Moriarty graphic novel comics series ever with him as the title character. Ladyman had not been done before we had the I gotta love it. So hop in your local brick and mortar comic shop and ask them to special order, the Moriarty trade paperbacks. And then red city registered city was LA confidential Amar's. Yeah. So if you want cops and robbers and crooked politicians fin towels on Mars and the distant future red city is for you. It is it is a it's a it's a psycho thriller with with a lot of high tech. And and really interesting Superfund read. A new book. I just finished that we're working on the publishing right now for is called blood worth. And that's I mentioned before it's about FBI agent in the near future that can enter people's memories to solve crimes. So the preview story zero issue is available on comic solid for ninety nine cents. Tim page. Preview store if you want check that out I have the first volume done, and we're working on working on getting that getting that out there. My first book, which we mentioned earlier is called profit graphic novel did with Anthony ditch do as artist Chris finale, by the way was the artist on on on blood worth. And he also did color on on red city. And he's a wonderful artist is going on to draw X files and Star Wars adventures goosebumps for eighty w. So my first book that I did was with Anthony and that was called profit. And it was supernatural spaghetti western. And you heard the story of the Genesis all that earlier. And right now, a working on the feature film adaptation with James cotton. Who is the writer director painted woman who talked about earlier, and so I have a draft of scrip done. And. Yeah, so we have some announcements coming up for that. But that that's that's in the works. So, you know, more on that later. Hopefully, so there you go head over to to Amazon com. Ecology plug in Dan, corey's name and just buy whatever comes up because you should. The last I'm gonna play. This shouldn't surprise you a bit. You know, we lost Peter Tork week ago. And you know, I I got to normal little bit. The last time I saw recognize me which is either good or bad, depending. Good. Yeah. It was it was fine. And and he's always been very courteous to me his he put out one solo album without you know, just just him. It was released in the early nineties called stranger things have happened. It was produced by a friend of the show, James Lee Stanley Haya, James hope, you listen and one of the one of the tracks. Just just strikes me as particularly peer torque track. It's his arrangement of an RN be classic. And if you listen, very carefully. Love him love them or not appear had a problem with pitch. Singing. Right. It just not not the best thing, but phenomenal musician and you'll hear some great musicianship in this. But the backup vocals. The producer wanted to get a mom and pop kind of sound to it. So back backing vocals on this are MacKenzie Phillips and Leah concl-. Who is mama Cass his daughter? Wow. So what you'll hear the harmonies in the back of this are the are second generation, mamas and Papas. Excellent. So let's let's give this a listen. And then, and then we'll pack it in. Thanks for listening to the coral courts radio hour, Dan Corey over there. Tim powers over here. And we'll do another episode when we get around to it. And I listened to thank so much. If you like the show, tell your friends if you like any of this music, we encourage you to visit a local brick and mortar record store and buy it from those hardworking merchants apple mortar record stores otherwise downloaded if that's your last resort. But by all means by these records for them here is off of beechwood records, nineteen ninety something. Things. Lifting. Which is. True. Does your. Ready? Face.