Day 1,271: Trump's White House tries to discredit Fauci as COVID-19 surges
Well good evening once again day twelve, hundred, seventy, one of the trump administration, one hundred thirteen days to go until our presidential election, the pandemics grip on our country has been merciless yet. The White House is now enmeshed in what looks like an effort to try to sink Dr Anthony Fauci the scientists and Dr who has guided the country through pandemic threats under six. Six presidents and is a recipient of the Presidential Medal of freedom. Over three point, three million people are infected that we know of over one hundred thirty six thousand lives have been lost. New cases are rising steadily above sixty one thousand new cases just today, dozens of states now reporting outbreaks, nineteen states set new benchmarks this weekend and it was in the midst. Midst of that that these I reports started to emerge that the White House was not just trying to sideline doctor FAUCI. That's been going on for a while, but was now treating him like something of a political opponent. A document was sent around to reporters from anonymous White House officials laying out comments that FAO she made in the early days of the outbreak. Outbreak when little was known even by the experts, which those officials have tried to paint as inaccurate. The AP reports tonight quote, cheese, public contradictions of trump have been viewed by the president as a personal affront and have caused some of the west wing to sour on the doctor. The effort is part of a White House effort to counterpunch on behalf of trump. Filed. She has not commented on these reports, but he did continue to warn about this virus in an interview. Today was Stanford University. Here it is, it's happened. You know your worst nightmare the perfect storm. This is a really serious problem. It is truly historic We haven't even begun to see the end of it yet and to get it completely under control. It's still going to be a threat. Of course wording like worst nightmare and perfect storm happens to contradict trump's messaging and nearly every day that we are doing a great job FAO. She also talked about these latest outbreaks. We did not shut down entirely, and that's the reason why. When we went up, we started to come down and then we plateaued at a level that was really quite high about twenty. Thousand Infections Day. Then as we started to be open. We're seeing the surges that we're seeing today. This morning the president of the United States re tweeted a conspiracy theory written by the noted infectious. Disease Specialist Chuck woolery actually he's the former host of the dating game and love connection, and is a celebrity spokesman for blue. EMU, arthritis cream wollery wrote and the president later distributed to the free world quote, the most outrageous lies are the ones about covert nineteen. Everyone is lying. The CDC Media Democrats are doctors, not all, but most that we are told to trust. It's all about the election and keeping the economy from coming back, which is about the election. This afternoon both trump and the White House seemed to signal their support for Dr Fauci. Very good relationship with Dr Fetchy I've had for a long time. Right from the beginning. I find him a nice person I don't always agree with him. I closed the border as you know to China clothes I did the ban on China heavily infected, and we saved tens of thousands of lives inductive out. You will admit that it was a good decision. It was very early. That was in January. Long before it was. Thought of as the right thing to do I get along with them very well. I like him personally. Here's no opposition research being dumped to reporters, we RASA very specific question by the Washington Post question was president. Trump noted that doctor felt she had made some mistakes, and we provided a direct answer to what was a direct question. Dr Doughty and the president of always had a very good working relationship. The New York Times reports on NBC News has confirmed that foul. She was back at the white. House today meeting with trump's chief of staff Mark Meadows prescheduled meeting. We're told one topic that may have been under discussion. However, California's major rollback of its reopening efforts just today including ordering all bars in the state closed California's been averaging over eight thousand new cases a day as of Sunday Florida reported over twelve thousand new cases today yesterday as you may know. Florida set a national pandemic record with more than fifteen thousand cases, the highest one day total of any state that goes to Florida today. The Florida governor was greeted with open anger as he started his daily briefing. We came to Jackson in I. Think early March when this pandemic was really starting to pick up steam that point I. don't even know if Miami Dade had a case. A positive tests, maybe a couple, but it was obviously much different than what we're. What we're finding here. So I think the. Yuppie so I think. For Nathan. Older. And naming it brought this. Noblesse. Nothing. Is You so. Rhonda US an ardent trump supporter went on to say things had stabilized in Florida stressed the need for fasted co faster. Cova test results Washington. Post is reporting on nationwide delays with some tests site, struggling to provide results in five to seven days as they promise in an op. ED FOR CNBC FORMER TRUMP Steve Chief of staff Mick Mulvaney complained quote. I know it isn't popular to talk about in some Republican circles, but we still have a testing problem in this country. My son was tested recently. We had to wait five to seven days for results. My daughter wanted to get tested before visiting her grandparents, but was told she didn't qualify. This is simply inexcusable at this point in the pandemic. At this point, it is fair to quickly note Mulvaney one's called the corona virus a hoax. Now it's suddenly very real for him and his family yet. Both the president and his press secretary are still insisting the nation is far ahead on testing. Trump also repeated the false theory. That testing is driving up the number of cases while seeming to try to blame his predecessor. Said many times, the number of corona virus cases is going up. Because testing is increasing through TV acknowledge that it's going up for other reasons to for example that it's actually spreading, you know Biden and Obama stop their testing. They just stopped. They stopped testing. Right in the middle, they just went no more testing. We test more than anybody by far and when you test, you create cases, so we've created cases as we've always said that there would be embers, there would be fire when you're testing more than any country in the world. You're going to identify more cases. A tiny fact, check here. The Corona virus did not exist during the Obama Administration. There was no test for it. Meanwhile, today came a significant setback to trump's push to reopen our schools. The LA unified and San Diego Public School districts announced the school year will start remote, only in August, president of course is blaming politics. We have to open the schools. We have to get them open and. I think there's a lot of politics going along. I think they think they'll do better if they can keep the schools close in the election I don't think it's going to help them. Frankly, but I think they feel that by keeping school slows. That's a bad thing for the country, and therefore that's a good thing for them. This afternoon I asked the secretary of Education under President Obama about the wisdom of reopening schools in pandemic. There is no body count high enough for the president to actually pay attention to science. We could lose another ten thousand. We lose another fifty thousand. We can lose another one hundred thousand nothing would compel him to listen to the foul and others. We're actually fighting to try and save. Lives and schools are not gonNA put teachers, principals, their children or their children's families in a position of risks as far too high. Do not pay attention to trump. Don't be scared of his bluffs. He does not care whether you live or die. Head tension those local people who live in your community. Please listen to them. Here for our leadoff discussion on a Monday night Shannon petty piece veteran journalists senior White House reporter for us at NBC News Digital Kimberly Atkins Senior. Washington correspondent for WBZ, you are Boston's NPR news station. She has been named the editorial board of the Boston Globe and Dr Lloyd Minor, Dean, of Stanford University School of Medicine Dr Minor as expertise and predictive medicine diagnostic research is also by training a head and neck surgeon member of the. The National Academy of Medicine and he interviewed Dr Anthony Fauci today about this coronavirus pandemic doctor that that interview earned. You are starting part tonight. I'm GONNA play for you. This is Tony Fauci from February. This is important because it's one of the quotes. The White House in attacking him circulated this weekend, but they just use the first portion as you'll see, Dr Fouled. She goes on. We'll talk about it on the other side. At this moment, there is no need to change anything. You're doing on a day by day basis right now. The risk is still low, but this could change I've said that many times even on this program. You've got to watch out because although the risk is low now. You don't need to change anything you're doing. When you start to see community spread, this could change and force. You Dude, a become much more attentive to doing things that would protect you from spread. So you see Dr all the warnings and caveats came after that first sentence saying there's no need for people to change their behavior. February twenty-ninth was decades ago in terms of this pandemic at a basic level doctor. Can you believe there is a hit job out from? The White, House on the premier infectious disease specialist, our country has in the middle of a pandemic with one hundred and thirty six thousand Americans debt. Thank you Brian I. We know that this is a very serious fire. Since a very serious infection, and as you pointed out, it's caused a lot of illness and death in our country, and around the world. We also know that we still don't know enough about the virus about its transmission with. The day and Dr Faucher. Every medical expert continues to refine their opinions. Recommendations based upon evidence coming in, and and that evidence is coming in, but none of us has a crystal ball future and we act. We make recommendations based on the best evidence that we have at the time and I think that is exactly what knock your out. She has done throughout this pandemic. Have we learned a lot since February twenty ninth? Yes, we have. Doing Elsie this to be a much more serious problem than we did in late February early March. Yes, we do, and that's the nature of learning in the course of a pandemic. Doctor What about the wisdom of going after our lead guy as a country. Will. It's very important that all scientist physician leaders have the opportunity to speak what their expertise leads them to conclude to explain why they're concluding what they at the time and explain the evidence to the public. That's extremely important for all of us who are leaders in in biomedicine and we do that is accurately is timely fashion as we can I believe that's what Dr Foul. She has done. I believe that's what all of us who were involved in leadership positions in biomedicine, today or trying to do. Shannon, as you know in trump, friendly media, and in trump nation, the discrediting of Tony Fouled. She's been going on for months. Most people take it as an article of faith that he's been discredited. Part of the Anti Medicine Anti Science Movement that were fighting in the midst of a pandemic. What's your reporting on on? Who or what may be behind this latest trunch? Somebody had to really set out to do this. Somebody went to work on this and someone distributed it to us and others in the business. Well. I'm glad you mentioned that this smear campaign discrediting effort has been effective because when I talked to trump voters, they I mean echo a whole range of conspiracy theories out there about a doctor, Fauci a conspiracy theories linking him to China questions about the data, a general distrust among trump's supporters in his base about the data and the numbers and where they're coming from so. So. We're trump's base. These efforts have been successful in some people. Don't trust him just because it appears the president doesn't trust him. Of course, a wider more general population. Dr Factory still has a lot of popularity anything. It's sixty something percent sixty seven percent of Americans. Still Trust with he has to say about this virus, and that is what has bothered the president and. And his top aides and advisers for months now is the idea that Dr vouches giving his opinion, not the White House line which is unlike other spokespeople. They have out there like the head of health and Human Services or the surgeon general, who, for the most part are in lockstep messaging wise with the White House doctor Fau has been out there on his own his messaging wise. Wise and the president and his aides say listen the White House is the one who is going to make the call here. The president is making the decisions, and they don't like the idea that seems to have more influence than the president of the United States well as lots of reasons why we're in a position, but this has certainly been something going on for months. It goes to the very top level of the administration. The president's closest advisers have been criticizing vouchers. So when you ask whether these these talking points come from I can't reveal our are reporting. To that extent but I can't say that the very close. This level inner circle of the president is this criticism and concern about ability to carry a message to the public. That is not the message that the White House wants out there. Hey, Kim Education Secretary Devos made the mistake of running headlong into Danna, bash this weekend on CNN, where she may have made history becoming the first education secretary, not to have students or their teachers and their safety as a top of mind number one concern after that somewhat disastrous outing. Where does the campaign stand to reopen this nation's schools especially after those two big markets in California today? I think those two big districts. In California are a big indication of how local and state leaders have lost faith that they will get any sort of guidance any sort of instruction from the federal government besides open up or else secretary devos has threatened a stripping funding from schools that do not have that. Do not reopen when school leaders are saying what they want is to reopen, but to do that. They need more funds. They need more guidance. They need more support so that they can put in place safety measures. Finding? The right enough room to space children apart. Ramping up testing for for students and teachers and administrators. Figuring out exactly what to do, if numbers, uh, uh, Spike, or or continue to grow a once. Schools are reopening because closing them down again would be devastating, and without any of that support from the federal government. You're seeing districts like in Los Angeles and San Diego saying we cannot do this. You are seeing. Parents who want nothing more than to be able to send their kids to school so that they can learn and so that the parents can. Find a way to go back to work saying that they don't want to send their children back to school. Even in some districts in the DC area and other places that are planning on moving ahead with at least a partial reopening, so it's a big mess. The secretary is certainly out of step with the people who are on the ground, and the Democrats are using that as a campaign message for one more reason why they say Donald Trump must be voted out of office. Dr Minor. I saw an interview on television tonight with internist from the Washington. DC Metro area reports. He's got a patient who has had this twice. Seeing more mentions of this in literature and contemporaneous news reporting. What can you add this? We're still learning about immunity following infection with Kobe. And also we're learning about how to lessen the effects lower the severity of infection with covid nineteen. The whether or not there is or how many cases of patients who recover from covid nineteen. Who can become reinfected? That's a matter of intense investigation. We do know that many people following an infection doom out an immune response, and that immune response does seem to be protective for at least a period of high in many people, but the true instance of the protection the links. Links those are all things were being investigated today. It's important because as we therapies online therapies that should be beneficial before a vaccine is available, it's important that those new therapies either reduce the viral load because they prevent the virus from replicating or actually block as Moncloa antibodies do the attachment of the virus to its receptor, so those are things that are being actively investigated today. It's certainly going to be big news to survivors walking around with what they believed to be. antibodies Shannon petty piece. The presidential campaign is now of course so thoroughly intertwined with this the politics of the pandemic, the mechanics of health and the pandemic. Is it being ad libbed? Do you think on a daily basis? Well I've been told that the president is intentionally staying away from talking about Corona Virus that that strategy having him be the daily Voice of of the response going out there, doing the press conferences obviously did him. No favours so as we see this second way continuation of the first wave. However, you want to characterize it, we are not hearing from the president. Talk about this is the vice president who was out there doing the traveling and that by his advisors intentional, and they feel like it's best for politically. Stay away from this campaign perspective. The number one issue in the country, the thing that on every American mind, the president is not touching, so he is running a risk here of looking a eliminated from where the rest of the country as out of touch and on the campaign front when it comes to these rallies, we've now seen to events in Alabama rally in New Hampshire. Rally canceled really as a result of concerns about corona, the coronavirus the campaign was so built. Built around these rallies They were just part of the strategy. They were the strategy that was the campaign the rally. So now you have those, so you don't have the rallies and you have the president who is not addressing the number one issue in the country, so that puts them in a very difficult spot, and it is certainly a transition point in the campaign has been a reboot after reboot after reboot for the past few weeks. And the there is going to have to be some strategy going forward, but right now my reporting indicates they have not found what that strategy is going to be at this moment. Kim Two things are true number one. The toughest ads of this cycle are being made by Republicans some of them. Disaffected Republicans number two Joe Biden is saving a fortune in television, ads and things like jet fuel by campaigning from Delaware. What you hear from the Biden campaign these. Days yet, they are in feeling confident that right now. It's not a bad strategy to let president trump beat himself a which is if you believe recent polling is doing although Shannon's absolutely right? He's trying to stay away from the corona virus of based on recent polls, voters are holding him responsible for the fact that the coronavirus is not under control and. The former vice president is benefiting from that, and so that campaign is really hunkering down focusing on the swing states, and letting the Lincoln Project ads and other ads do the work elsewhere including here in DC where those ads play, because the intended target is the President A, but at the same time they're facing some concerns from Democrats outside of their circle who want to see Joe Biden go big to to campaign and try to get voters in places. Places like Texas and Arizona a thinking that a resounding victory would not only prevent president trump from claiming fraud or some other kind of shenanigans with the election results, but also help down handed it down ballot candidates across the country if Biden campaigns in a much broader way, they believe that the winds are at his back so he's facing that, but right now they're playing it. They're playing it cool with with some time left before the election. Doug Minor Shannon petty piece. Thanks as always Kim Atkins. We hope you'll still talk to US little folk when you get to the editorial board of the Boston Globe congratulations. That's great news coming up for a few weeks ago, one great American city could count corona virus cases on one hand not anymore. We'll talk about what happened. We'll talk about whether or not. It's a warning light to the rest of the country. The mayor will join US next. 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Cases are climbing with Western PA seeing some of the largest increases New York Times reporting today, the city had been both diligent, lucky, and now quote over two weeks in late June and early July. allegheny county recorded more new cases than in the previous two months combined, and on some recent days has accounted for nearly half of all. All new known cases in Pennsylvania Pittsburgh's in allegany county, the spike in the Pittsburgh area offers a cautionary tale, even after months of village, vigilance and outbreak can flare up all of a sudden for more. We welcome to the broadcast bill peduto, the mayor of Pittsburgh Pennsylvania Mr. Mayor we want to note first off. You are in suddenly a dangerous neighborhood. You've got Ruby Red West Virginia, not talking politically, but in terms of the virus to your south and you've got Ohio you're west dealing with its own spikes. How is your city doing tonight? What worries you? as you stated, this is something that is happening regionally across Western. Pennsylvania New West Virginia and Eastern Ohio. Three areas that we're basically spared. A heavy impact during the early months in March in. Even May what ended up happening. Is We let our guard down we decided as a state to support the governor and to work together to allow businesses to reopen in then people who were being safe in keeping social distance. forgotten all that and stopped wearing masks and stop doing the things that kept our numbers down to begin with. what worries me is that we're still in the first face, and this is just a flare up in the first phase and the corona viruses virus that's been around for a while, and you know it has a season in that season really comes into play on October. November December. What we're seeing with Kovic teen is a resistance to go away during the summer in if we go into those seasons with high numbers. Most likely to see is something that will make what we saw earlier this year. looked like just the common cold. You're making a an announcement tomorrow. I understand about returned schools anything you'd care to preview tonight. There is no announcement. The will be making a Pittsburgh. Public Schools will be tomorrow and then. Our universities said we have seven universities within the city. will have announcements I believe either this week or next week. Full disclosure the First Jersey I had as a kid was number fifty eight for Jack Lambert and I'm still hoping he will sign my throwback helmets someday, so having established that. Do you think we will see home game? steelers home games this season. I try to remain optimistic on what will be able to see when it comes to entertainment or to? The way we would socialize. Before March but I'm also a realist, a pragmatist, we have to keep north stars. We do policy in decision. Making in that North Star has to be based around public health. What comes first is making sure that we have a safe community anything other than that. Is An add on the? We will try to work towards, but we will not jeopardize it. Mr Mayor were thinking of you and your great city mayor? Bill PEDUTO PITTSBURGH PA. Thank you very much for making time and come on the broadcast tonight coming up for us. The president claims he's received. Rave reviews for commuting the sentence of his friend of several decades Roger. Stone will play you. What stone had to say just tonight when we come back? The most important thing here is the courageousness of the president's act. I know there were many many many people who toll limited election year do this. Let Roger Stone wait maybe for a pardon after the election. Sean I don't think I would have lived that long? Not with my asthmatic condition, not with now sixty. Kobe nineteen cases in that prison? And, so with this Donald Trump apparently saves a life. The president said today. He's getting rave reviews for commuting. His longtime friend Roger Stone's forty month federal prison sentence. We learned today. The president's clemency granted doesn't just keep his friend Roger Out of the slammer it voids all parts of stone sentences, including period of supervised release and a twenty thousand dollar, fine stone was convicted of lying to Congress and witness tampering meanwhile former special counsel Robert Muller broke his silence this weekend about stones commutation. It was in the Washington Post where he wrote quote stone was prosecuted and convicted because he committed federal. Federal crimes he remains a convicted felon, and rightly, so we made every decision in stones case as in all our cases based solely on the facts on the law, and in accordance with the rule of law, the women and men who conducted these investigations and prosecutions acted with the highest integrity claims to the contrary are false back with us. Tonight Tim O'Brien executive editor over at Bloomberg opinion. He's back from his role with the Bloomberg presidential campaign, which seems like a couple of decades ago by now, and he happens to be the author of trump nation, the art of being the Donald. So Tim, we are led to believe that Ag bar spoke up against this Though AG bar happens to be the hero of many leaked leaked story about ag bar. As subservient, an ag as we have had certainly in the modern era. Do you think that it's possible that trump cast aside any integrity and rigor of the DOJ, vetting process for commutations and chose to bail out a buddy of his. Brian, that's that so cynical view to think that this president would cast aside the rule of law process in good advice to do what served his own self interest of course I think that's what happened. This president never leaves much room for critics to end up being wrong. A, year ago in two thousand, nineteen, a day after Robert Muller concluded his Russian Investigation Donald Trump picked up the phone and tried to strong arm. The leader of Ukraine into digging up dirt on Joe Biden last week last Thursday a chief justice Roberts issues a I think a landmark Supreme Court decision, saying that the president of the United States does not exist beyond the reach of the law and then a day later on a Friday evening. He proceeds commute Roger Stone's sentence. Because Donald Trump doesn't care about the rule of law and I don't think that. Bill bar merely subservient. I think bill bar enables his behavior and he empowers it. Bill Bar had medaled in the sentencing of Michael Flynn. He had he had. He has long. Let it be known that he favors an imperial presidency. With, a president who operates at will in into large extent beyond the rule of law, so I think they're very much aligned here in I think. If take a cue from what's happened on recent Friday evenings from. The US attorney being pushed out in in the southern district of New York to Roger Stone being seeing his sentence commuted Brian I. Think you're GonNa have a lot of news dropping on Friday evenings on your show between now and election day. It certainly unfortunately certainly has changed the complexion of summertime Friday nights and our business Tim you are a human trigger for Donald, trump We have long since established that you've spent enough time around him and written enough words about him. so I want you to get to your theory that he's in survival mode which I also note will be triggered a new starting tomorrow when his nieces book tour starts. For her book. Right, on both counts Brian. A an experienced politician I. Think can adept politician at this point would be trying to expand. His or her reach. To the electric, but Donald Trump's doing none of that he's continuing to band pander to his base. I think you know he's been overtly racist. He's been overtly divisive. He is he is used the Bible as a prop to appeal to his evangelical supporters I think he's. Race Baiting and and revelling in racism to appeal to another of his electorate, all of which solidifies where he is with those who support the most, but is not going to extend his reach. To the places he needs to. He's going to win in November. Our mutual. Friend James Carville predicts trump is going to face a landslide in November. No indication suggests that but what I think he's doing is tying up loose ends and trying to beat back any critics 'cause first and foremost, channeling this through the lens of his own needs, and I think the Mary. Trump book arise right in the middle of a moment like this as as this catalogue of. Bad Dreams, and really horrible realities in the household in which Donald Trump grew up in Mary trump refers to. The trump's mansion in in Queens as the house in it, it's essentially a hothouse full of pathologies, emotional abandonment that shaped trump it's a very seminal and important book I think. Tim O'Brien. Thanks for having US end to among the nicer houses. We get invited into these days in the COVID zoom. SKYPE era. We appreciate it's great to see you again. Coming out for this one of the one of the darkest moments in recent years remember when we first heard the story that children were being separated from their parents at the border are Jacob Sober off has reported on this from the start. He'll tell us how an already precarious situation is now impacted by the corona virus when we come right back. Two years after the public outcry following the president's child separation policy, the controversy over children in detainment in our country continues today, a federal judge in DC delayed a ruling until next week on whether migrant parents held and family detention centers should be released along with their children that means as many as three hundred thirty five additional children and parents could be separated beginning this Friday covering. Covering this story is our Jacob Sober off. He has written a book about the experience called separated inside an American tragedy. Jacob is very good to have you on. If I asked you for a benchmark number of the children, we have separated in the confines of our country from their parents including the first wave at the start. Could you give me such a number from our government? We know the number is over five, thousand, four, hundred Brian, and those five thousand four hundred children were systematically traumatized, abused and tortured in the words of doctors on Physicians for Human Rights and that trauma abuse and torture in the words of those experts continues to this day will last a lifetime for those children, I D- separations the act of separations. As you just mentioned is still going on, and that's exactly why I wanted to write this book. This is not over. has this been the deterrent that Donald trump and his allies thought and hoped it would be, or could you argue these days that folks aren't exactly rushing across the border to get corona virus where we make it fresh daily? The trump administration simply will not let migrants across the border at this point, so no, it wasn't the deterrent. They wanted it to be effective in so far as they knew, they were warned and document extensively in the book exactly how they were warned a what this policy would do to these children, and how it would affect them for the rest of their lives, but today why why activists and lawyers and people who deal with children all the time. Time say this arguably worse. Is that people who want to get into this country? Today cannot and under the guise of corona virus, many migrants, including migrant children are being immediately turned around and sent back to their home. Countries by the trump administration. They're not even able to make it into the country and the small amount who are who are detained with their families. Nice detention are now subject to potential separation. A deadline is looming does Friday for that? You and Julia Ainsley reported that nearly half of the employees at just one detention center in Arizona tested positive for corona virus. What has this done to something? You have already called an American tragedy. They call. It awards zone. We talked to one employee who is currently an active employees in the Eloi detention center. One of the dissension centers in Arizona with the worst rate of corona virus staff is sick. chill of detainees sick, and that's what's also happening in these family detention centers and they knew that this would happen. This is not a surprise to them. and this type of situation this type of crisis that we're seeing inside the border patrol detention facilities. The ice detention facilities was easily. but frankly again want to write the book is. Coming you see me right there in that border? Patrol? Detention Center I'll never forget that day seeing those children under the mylar on the concrete floors supervised by security contractors in a watchtower and people said to me then. This is going to get worse. I didn't believe it. I couldn't believe what I saw with my own eyes. Then yet here we are today. Jacob Sober off. who was witness to it then and is here for US tonight as author of his new book separated inside an American tragedy, best of luck with it, and thank you very much for coming on our broadcast Jacob coming out after waiting and Cova test lines for hours, many Americans are told not to expect results for days five to seven days maybe longer a closer look at a problem that remains critical after five months of this now. Anybody that needs a desk gets a test. We there they have the test and the tests are beautiful. The President CDC headquarters that was over four months ago. It wasn't true then. It's not true tonight. If you can get tested than you likely know. The weight in many cases is a week or longer. The Atlanta mayor said tonight. Her wait for her families results eight days. She and her husband already have it which brings us to this guy, trump's former chief of staff. Mick Mulvaney as we said at the top of the broadcast, he went from calling this virus a hoax to declaring we have a testing problem. Because his family members were forced to wait, and that testing problem is affecting our ability to contain the virus, and so we're losing our report tonight from NBC's gave Gutierrez. From Florida to California Texas to Arizona testing, troubles are increasingly bogging down the nation's corona virus response delays in testing and inadequate testing are making people sicker are making the outbreaks bigger and are leading to more deaths. The trump administration has blamed some testing problems on mismanagement state level, and says the US did more than eight hundred thousand tasks on Friday. We test more than anybody by far and when you test you create cases but today. The president's former chief of staff wrote an op Ed for. For CNBC I know it isn't popular to talk about in some Republican circles, but we still have a testing problem in this country. My son was tested recently. We had to wait five to seven days for results. That is simply inexcusable. At this point in the pandemic in North Carolina Hugh, huff was tested than isolated in his bedroom in limbo. It's insane to me that it still takes up to two weeks seven days. Who knows in order for these results to come back public health. Health officials say skyrocketing demand is creating a shortage of testing supplies, such as swabs and reagents. The chemicals needed to conduct the tests. The delays critic say are making an army of contact tracers paid for by taxpayers, essentially useless Franklin. You have a a state like Florida. That's on fire like this contact. Tracing almost becomes irrelevant. It can't be done is kind of like trying to plant Petunias in the middle of a hurricane and in Florida. There's mounting frustration at or patients. Wait in long lines. Lines athletes are getting tested frequently one NBA player posting on social media that he's been tested twenty times since arriving in Orlando for the season now the race is on to develop quicker methods at Arizona State. University researchers are aiming to conduct sixty thousand tests a day up from two thousand by analyzing saliva here in New York City. Some patients are waiting more than a week for their test results. The mayor here is urging the federal government to invoke the Defense Production Act to expand capacity. Our thanks to give Gutierrez for that report coming up for us. A leading voice of authority endorsed by the Governor of New York on the efficacy of wearing a mask. Last thing before we go tonight, someone we saw on social media, the governor of New York also apparently saw her, and promptly sent out her message to his followers. We haven't heard the president urged Americans to wear a mask. We have heard a Lotta grownups now we have her. Read the name the Holy Grail. Of Men. So here defending. Har-. Virus called me that paranoia virus. We can't. Can People. Able to breathe very well. And Sound. In this grownup that plant and can't breathe that means. that. The meeting everyone wear masks. That They. PAROLIN virus. Any were getting it. To her horrible. So We want everyone to know. So rare on that. We are saying this weekend. Raymond No. Little girl from New York, so one time epicenter, all of this a city that recorded zero deaths from corona virus just today. That's our effort for this Monday evening as we start a new week together, thank you so very much for being here with us. On behalf of all my colleagues at the networks of NBC News could night. Hey everybody. It's Brian Williams and thank you for listening I. Do want to invite you to talk with us here at MSNBC. 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