Stone Temple Pilots join us to talk PERDIDA
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But as you'll hear even before we all went on lockdown the band was faced. With having to amend their touring plans for this new album for other reasons be approached. The band took to recording per dida presents. Unique songwriting styles in a different light. That lets these ten songs sink in a softer more. Subtle way on data gone is the sledgehammer heavy rock that we love about so many. Sdp anthems and instead it's replaced by more conversational approach that allows the songs on per data to worm their way into your head so as the youtubers say without further. Ado. Let's get right to it. Robert deleo. Jeff Goo welcome to the PODCAST. We'll thank you grossest. Congratulations on the new album per data really liked to salve melot. It's got a great vibe to it. Different field than a lot of your the records. Obviously because it's acoustic but did it feel different to you when you were writing it now. It's it's pretty much the same process of writing. It was just a decision to keep those songs in that format in that place usually. When you write a song you can Take it too many different places but I think it just felt Most appropriate to kind of keep these songs in the sentiments of the songs in in this place its purest form in its purest form. Thank you this. Is your second album. Jeff with the band. Yes for folks. That haven't heard the story. Why don't you guys tell us about how you joined? Ooh Well they had put out a a singer search online thing and invited the entire world to participate. But I I was. I was actually going overseas to do something else at the time so I just kind of figured they were going to find the right guy and he was going to be perfect and yeah and then I came back and they still haven't found anyone. I hadn't heard anything about it so I was like. Oh I wonder if they found anyone so I've started calling friends from New York and Senegal out to meet Robert and a show in Detroit and Just as many ways I get my get my foot in the door there in The next thing I know I got a phone call and came down and and Auditioned for the band I think there were six six. Yes studio and Year and a half later. It took a took a long time. You know getting to know each other and Writing Process and I record was made during basically during my audition process so Most of it recorded during that so This is my first first one with with the freedom of being the singer. Robert you guys have had such success with acoustic performances in the past. How come you guys hadn't made an acoustic album before this? You know I I. I asked myself but I think it just wasn't the right time. Then you know the train was kind of rolling and then stopping and rolling and I don't think the focus there was there to to to actually do it. You know to keep songs in this format it. It takes some discipline to kind of keep it there and make that work. It just felt like with what we were all kind of experiencing at least what I was experiencing in life lately. I think it was a good time to kind of document. Those songs in that form is just felt felt. Felt like a right time to do it. Yeah you guys have worked with Brendan. O'brien and other great producers was produced per dido on your own. How is it different working as your producer? This is I think the fourth record we've produced ourselves and you know you you. Kinda have to put your place in the position of listener. There's a certain amount of ego that goes along with songs that you right and if there's no one there to really or you're not there for yourself to kind of Put a cap on some things. I think It gets a little indulgent and I think you just need to You know we've been doing it long enough where we've learned so much especially from Brendan O'Brien I mean You know making records with him was was kind of like You know going to school. He was a great great teacher. I think we really learned What what not to do. I'm really thankful for that. Are you at the point when you produce yourself now that you're able to move more quickly since you're by yourself? Well working with Brandon was very very quickly. Done he You know it's sometimes nice to have that person that you have to put a lot of trust into and Brendan was the I. I recall those sessions and everything is being one of trust and respect? And when you have someone like that you know looking over you that disciplined hopefully rubs off and you Can self producing self monitor yourself like I said I feel thankful for that? Yeah Yeah tell us. About the album's title for and what it means how it relates to the lyrical content of the songs we'll redeem means loss and it's just kind of encapsulates. The theme of the record. I guess more personal side of of losing loved ones are missing loved ones or Finding loved ones are all the things that you go through in your life and different situations at different people in the band were in so it was it. Was you know kind of more of a therapy session than anything for ourselves? Just getting in there and getting in there and getting getting. Let some things out that that that I've had an inside of me for a long time. So you know it was just. It was good to to go to that place and and put the raw nerve out there. And and hopefully people can relate to that you know. Well I really enjoy listening to it. Thank you the vibes that you guys captured really felt it listening to it. Read on means a lot. Yeah you guys have said that you recorded this using a lot of vintage instruments. Did that help convey the feeling of the songs using those different instruments that maybe you would usually use. I think so. I think as a listener of Music. I appreciate the tonality of different and just the character of different instruments especially acoustic ones. They have their own personality. I like to I think we all like to incorporate those into the music. Not only that. But the the the microphones and everything we kinda chose where old You know ribbon microphones that kind of gave it that smoother. You know velvety. Yeah Yeah Yeah so you know. That's that's really hopefully that You know to me. There's nothing like sitting down and listen to a nice old. Burt Bacharach record or something. You know it just it. Just it's like A. It's like a a warm silk blanket. You know they take codify. They've got a vibe if got a and that's how I like to enjoy recording. Our music is is. I'm always a fan of music. I went and saw and met her Albert For the first time and You know he's eighty five and you know he. He literally raised me you know. Let's see one of those people that I thank for raising me. Because his music the wrecking crew and all the guys that were involved in those records they stand the test of time and they were really the you know the milk and my musical bottle when I was little. And you know a master how lane. Yeah master absolutely. We'll talk about how you guys recorded the record Robert. You played so many different instruments on this record. Do you guys like to track and get a basic track together and add to that or yes. Does it change song to song? Well whatever the song calls for but we try to get as much as the main stuff together for a vibe. You know. It's one of those things. Where should we do a click? Should we not do a click like the drummer keeps the time? Let's not use a click. It's like right. Plus we recorded acoustic instruments. That click can beer your nemesis. Yeah I can hear I swear I can hear and then and you're up at night. Swearing you can hear it. Well there's always that point where you're playing and you go is the click slowing down ultimately if it feels right. It is right. That's that's right and it was really about feel it was about feel and You know music always has an and I mentioned Brennan again. You know we. We recorded all our records. You know live to two inch tape. You know that's That's how we started and we still enjoying doing live. You know right. You recorded a lot of this at your drummer. Eric's studio in Pasadena. Yes it does. He have a pro tools setup or tape there as well well he has pro tools but t to combat that that digital Thing you know we you know I I get pretty geeky about. It is a flat wound. Acoustic strings on my acoustics. So they're they're not real blankie and and spring and with those and ribbon. Mics you kind of get that feeling of tape. But you have the modern approach of being able to go quicker with pro tools. I personally have a tape machine at my studio. I enjoy tracking especially drums drums on tape the saturation of tape that Really kind of holds up to me. I I love it. Well you mentioned older records. That's what you're used to hearing absolutely absolutely all those records there my Bible you know right. Yeah well when you guys right I know Robert. You read a lot of the music and Jaffe wrote a lot of the lyrics. Do you hand off a melody to Jeff Robert or how you guys work together a DO I. Normally when I'm songs. He had a whole part like miles away. You had that whole course pert in the beginning of Fairly well and all that like the he'll come in with like definitely some Some things there are some things are just a just a song name you know and then just kind of go from there. He'll have a melody for sure. Most of the time usually when I write accord structural. Something will come to me. So it always has. You know it's kind of a process of writing you know and then it's always a thrill to hand off to a singer Jeff especially just You know being able to complete that vision that you're kind of hearing and seeing you know sometimes it's easier to work with somebody else after you've maybe hit a wall you've got a good chorus verse and you can have somebody else who puts a little gas in the tank. Yes I quit to painting and you know. How do you know what color to put? Where and when is it finished and all those things will you mentioned miles away. That one has a really cool kind of gypsy sway. Three quarter time feel to it the fiddle that's in there really adds to it to what influence the feel of that. Song You Know Loneliness. It was You know a lot of those songs for me became from Of being on a tour and Canada and the wintertime. We were playing a lot of Hockey rinks and It was very cold and dark in cement and no windows and I think I was kind of forced to grabbing acoustic and Start writing. I think that's where we kind of both got together on those songs. Yeah a lot of time. Spent in the shower with the acoustics spell out of time shower together close with the water though four we talked about instruments a little bit ago and on that song and on. She's my Queen. You play an instrument called MARQUESA phone. Yes what is the marks Ifan Marquesa phone from what I understand? It was sold door to door in the twenties and teens and I picked one up. It's kind of a combination between A zither and a hammered dulcimer so it's got It's been used on some tracks by the doors and loving spoonful and it's always been a great little texture in sauce. It's an interesting instrument. I don't think I really play it properly. It's got bass strings and it's got Strings you hammer but sometimes when you just pick it and put river bond. It's a certain tone that gives a kind of a kind of Persian. Feel to me. It's just a beautiful sound. That comes out of it. I've used it and is it. And she is my queen after the first The first lyric comes in kind of does. Yeah it's it's a beautiful beautiful instrument beautiful sounding instrument. Where did you find it? You know I found it on Ebay. I mean you know you just go to the place that has the most of everything and you just go. you know weird instruments and you know exactly you know and the and stuff comes up like that looks pretty cool. I could use that. I mean the more the Merrier. You know the more the Merrier I found You know electrified Kazu's on there. That sound really cool with through an APP with a wall on it you know. Oh Wow yeah so just stuff like that. Electric Zoos and marks the phones and slide whistles and and it was fascinated with world instruments different kinds of instruments farewells. The first track on the record. It's the current single. You guys are in the top. Forty congratulations will thank you. This song definitely sets the tone for the record acoustic opening by itself and then the lyrics hit you and you immediately get the first five of the record. I kind of heard George Harrison influence on this one. Yeah George George I personally don't think you could really tell George Harrison's personality and writing and until he you know made all things must pass and you listen to that record and you you see the the beauty in his writing. He's one of those people that always there's A. There's always an underlying thing of of I wouldn't say the Beatles but but of George for sure absolutely I capable doctor tar up on the fifth fret to a might have had a a certain tonality that you know reminds you of something sonically you know. Yeah I think George Kato's too. Yes For the title track of the record it has perfect reverb on the nylon. String Guitar Intro. I mean it's just absolutely perfect. You can dial it in any better. Thank you but that now on string really sets the tone for this kind of Spanish. Almost FLAMENCO vibe. Yeah you have. Yeah actually has it right as Labyrinth Guitar Guitar Lap. Right now yeah How's how's the river good? Yeah well I think I think one of the things I wanted to do. Production wise is is just have one reverb one knob one knob and just say more or less and We picked a a a a nice reverve And just went with that and that's kind of what the record is is just Kind of old school like more or less and You know just the right mix of it you know. I think it was was important to get that vibe that we were looking for mom know the I think the production on this record is fantastic in the sense that it stays out of the way of the songs but allows them to be conveyed in the best way to be absorbed and understood Thank you that means a lot because that was the thought process of doing that and That means a lot to me because I think there's a certain feel that a nice warm rich reverb can add to An instrument or a piece of music. Well there's you know that sense of space when you listen to music and room or a live venue. Yeah being able to get the right space on a record is not an easy task right right. Yes let's talk about years Robert. This is the song on the record that using lead on I do. That's the first time to do that. Yes this song has a really cool fade in. And you don't hear that all the time and I can't remember the last time I heard a song that had a faith in. Yeah it just felt like You know I I you know sometimes when you play chords together you Kinda WanNa hear over and over and I I just I started. That's how it started. It started with I just wanted to play that over and over or whatever. There's certain there's certain Cords to me. That can really hit a hit. A soft spot inside your soul you know and I always felt that way from an little kid. You know there were certain chords wasn't about Solos for me. When I was playing guitar was about chords and Melody. That's kind of where that song was trying to lie. You know a some of the harmonies at the end. Remind me kind of that. Late sixties period Beach Boys Yeah. There's no way around for me. Those were the first. Those were the first forty fives. I put on and started playing when I was a little kid I had. I was the youngest in the family so when I was five years old I was. I was Spinning the original capital forty fives of I get around and let him run wild. And you know those those songs. I'm so thankful that those were first records that I picked up and started playing because it kind of all it laid it all out. It laid out they laid it out melodic and laid it out song wise writing. And and you know I I. I think. The world of Brian Wilson. I think he's really one of the greatest writers I without a doubt. Yeah Well on the outer on that one too. Of course she got that great also Saxophone Solo on a really nice long fade. You could call. Now's this yeah. Well you know I think I think what's really a cool thing is to be able to. It's really rewarding. When you you start incorporating instruments that you really love into your music and that's something that I've always tried to do in the past with trumpet or Oboe and and Violin and you know I have. I have a great love for For Paul Desmond I was really just trying to get that feeling of We got a gentleman by the name of Chris. Speed and Chris played that Solo and he captured a real. Nice vibe there on that that Altro I just can't let just keep going just go just go you know and just along fade because it was so beautiful what he was playing. Yeah it was. I didn't want to end. I was happy that it went on for a long beautiful beautiful player And how much thought was put into the order of when you consider lyrical material and the way you want it flow in the store you wanted to. I think it's always been an important thing to to us with every record we've dowd from the beginning We've always discussed. I think that's really. What makes the journey along? Beautiful one is is getting the the right feel and the right key keys of the songs and that all. That really goes hand in hand. That's one of those things that we've always paid attention to have been very attentive to is the the keys of the songs and how the end and where they began and it it it makes it. It makes the journey really pretty delightful to to when you get that right. I remember following along with lyrics and records in just a few immersing myself in dreamland. It's basically sure how I approached it. Yeah yeah that's always been very important. Well the album was son bursts it ends on an upbeat note with track but after the song ends lose a short CODA performed by a string quartet. What does this Co to signify for the Alba? That end string thing is actually the We we pulled that from the second of verse or the Second Chorus of data so that is actually the string part. That's in the second chorus of the song. We just took that out extracted that and put it at the end to kind of signified. This is the end of the journey and It ends with the I. It's it's so beautiful. I I tracked that at my studio. Actually I actually Attract a a wonderful violinist. Who's a friend of mine? named you'd Yutong Sharp. She's Chinese and just an amazing person. Amazing violinist and She got a couple of her friends. She got a cello friend and a viola friend and We tracked The three of them and then we Overdubbed at eight times over Oiseaux at created it created that just from three people playing that so like Queen but yes. It's amazing what you can do when you multi-track new Do you guys recently had to cancel the tour for a what happened there Yeah I've been I've been dealing with a bulging disc for awhile and kept getting a shots to carry on So it's been it's been going on for a couple of years and just kind of it was time to really have a choice. It was one of those things that just happened. Put it off as long as you could. Yeah Yeah how do you feel now? I'm good I'm good. I'm a little slow. I'll be one hundred percents Nash. It's amazing when you go up and perform and put everything you have into a show and you're jumping around and you can do that. But then you go into rehearsal and sit down on a stool for about four hours and you realize that's what really hurts when you're selling funny grace. Slick said she could go out on stage hungover feeling like she was going to die but as soon as the music started and she started singing she felt great time. I've done it right well. It's the the power of the power of Song isn't it? Yeah Yeah. Music is really powerful. Absolutely you guys are hitting the road after Jeff heels up and you're starting out with an Australian tour with live and Bush right. Yes yes we are GONNA last. It's three and a half weeks that. Yeah some Rose Tattoo kick in there to cool. That'd be good. Yeah Yeah and then the summer doing. Us would nickelback yes. That's a long one as a long one. Yeah that's a long one but when you come to Nashville oh great. It'll be nice because we've been I think we've been working harder than we've ever worked before and I think You know when you're doing six shows a night two hours. I Week six shows a week. I'm sorry six shows two hours I it's it's It's it's going to be nice to get a little different pace here over the summer and enjoy the surroundings a little bit you know. Yeah any plans to reschedule the acoustic per detour. Yes for sure. We Plan S. Yes yeah I'd love to hear these songs live. Yeah me too exhibitions and skill to be a great thing and a great moment to be to present these in their true form. You know how hard to go out and and do an hour set where you gotta fill so many. Sdp socks in that and then somehow fit one of these in there. So I think will happen. We'll save it for its own special occasion Robert Deleo and Jeff Goot. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you so much thank you. Thanks for having us were thanks again to Jeff Goot and Robert deleo from Stone Temple pilots for spending time with us for this episode of the Rhino podcast. Talking about their new album per data it's in stores now. It's out available streaming. You're GONNA love it. It's got a great laidback five. All kinds of great influences you can pick up on. It's really fun lesson. Check out their website to see when they're rescheduled tour. Dates are going to be and don't forget to sign up for RHINO INSIDER. If you haven't already that's at Rhino insider dot com and make sure to visit Rhino Dot com and check out all the great content and music. We have for you. There take care. Thanks very much for tuning in. Don't forget to listen and subscribe on itunes. So you don't miss the next. Rhino podcast executive producer for Rhino Entertainment. John Hughes produced for Rhino entertainment by rich man emotions. All rights reserved.