Day 1,048: Trump blasts impeachment at NATO on the eve of new Hill hearings


Tonight the House Intel Committee opens up their books. They've put out a three hundred page report. That is direct and damning and flat out says our president placed his own personal and political interests above the national interests of the United States. Then they named names other than trump all of them big names with a lot to lose news and there are phone records. They linked trump's guy rudy. Giuliani the White House budget office. And they link Devon Nunez with Rudy's guy left harness and may soon be working for the feds all of this on the eve the next wave of impeachment hearings. Donald Trump is in London. Camera harasses this is on the race. We have it all covered as the eleventh hour gets underway. This Tuesday night. Well good evening once again from our NBC News Headquarters here in New York Day. One Thousand Forty eight of the trump administration and tonight as expected the house. Intelligence Committee has indeed voted to move. The impeachment case along to its next step was a straight up party line. Vote Thirteen to nine and with it comes. Say Rather withering three hundred page report. That methodically accuses the president of the United States of wrongdoing and dealings with Ukraine. Now our our attention becomes focused on the house. Judiciary Committee the one chaired by Jerry. Nadler Democrat of New York which is holding its first impeachment hearing mere hours from from now at ten. AM judiciary will use the report to draft articles of impeachment details of the Intel committees findings. Were released publicly today. The report is is based on the ten week investigation triggered by that whistle blower complaint. Let's not forget that was concerning trump's July twenty fifth phone call with the new president of Ukraine laid out and rather plain and direct wording the impeachment investigators found that Donald Trump and we quote here personally and an acting through agents within and outside of the US government solicited the interference of a foreign government Ukraine benefit his reelection and to harm the election prospects of a political rival. They go on. The president placed his own personal and political interests above the national interests of the United States sought to undermine the integrity of the US presidential election process and endangered US national security. Investigators say the Vice President Secretary various state the Acting Chief of Staff Secretary of Energy and other senior officials quote were either knowledgeable of or active participants in in an effort to extract from a foreign nation. The personal political benefits sought by the president. The report accuses the president of quote an unprecedented ended campaign of obstruction. Adding the evidence of the president's misconduct is overwhelming and so two is the evidence of his obstruction of of Congress today. Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff offered his assessment. This is not about Ukraine. This is about our democracy. This is about our national security. And if we don't care about this we can. Dr Welby assured the president will be back at it doing this all over again this report. Biggest revelation phone records obtained by House. Democrats we didn't know about those before they list. A flurry of calls involving Giuliani has indicted business associated left Parnis and Devon Nunez the top Republican on the Intel Committee who clashed as you'll recall repeatedly heatedly with the Democrats during last month's public hearings. The cause include several made on April twenty fourth same day as the US ambassador to Ukraine Crane. Marie Ivanovich was were called. Giuliani called the White House. Seven different times and had nearly nine minutes worth of conversation with a conspicuously unidentified phone number that same day someone from the Office of Management and budget called Rudy. Three times the last call resulting in nearly fifteen minute conversation. The report also reveals multiple phone calls between Devon Nunez Parnassus on April twelfth. There were four phone calls between the two including one that lasted nearly nine minutes. Nunez himself was asked about all that tonight on Fox News. Maybe they have the recordings mornings of my phone calls with Rudy Giuliani. They're welcome to plan. Because everything I spoke with Rudy Giuliani about is nothing that I wouldn't care if the American people found out to this guy I less partners or whatever his name is you know it's possible but I haven't gone through all my phone records. I don't really recall that name. I remember they named Ain't now because he's been indicted. I'll go back and check my records but it seems very unlikely that I would be taking calls from random people just a short time ago on this network. Intel Committee Chairman's shift discussed the calls revealed in this report. These phone records show just the kind of interaction interaction between these different players in the midst of this scheme. We're trying to identify the full scope of those who were complicit and what the president was doing and these records give a window of insight into exactly that as we were watching Devon Nunez in the hearings he knew do that you had obtained phone records that included him and that those phone records would inevitably be be made public by your report. Well he certainly had possession of the records now how much. He looked into them how much he discussed what they showed with his staff. I really I can't say you would have to ask him. The Democrats impeachment report here also notes that Mister Peres appears to be in communication with Congress and thus anyone who dealt with could be in trouble quote. Mr Parnell has begun rolling production of certain records in his possession. Custody or control in response to the subpoena which the committees are evaluating. There's also this about trump's pressure campaign to have Ukraine to make specific statement regarding investigations into the Biden's the report includes an expert of a draft statement sent from Ukrainian officials to then Special Jon. voight Kurt Volker August twelve the next day volker sent a revised version of the draft to EU ambassador. Gordon Sunlen which included it an added promise to investigate burris Ma and the 2016 US elections the statement was never delivered publicly. This is all unfolding during the president's residents London visit for this week's NATO summit meeting tonight trump and other leaders joined the Queen at a reception at Buckingham Palace but earlier in the day a and in traditional form the president had plenty to say about what was going on back home. I think it's very unpatriotic of the Democrats regress to put on a performance. Where they do that I do I think it? I think it's a bad thing for our country. Impeachment wasn't supposed to be used that way. What do you have to do is read the transcripts you see there was absolutely nothing wrong? Legal scholars looking at the transcripts the other day and they say these are absolutely perfect. Trump is it uses the word those concept those those calls that we've made two of them were absolutely perfect calls since the impeachment when you think about the unacceptable. I did nothing wrong. Why aren't you the Secretary of State or the Acting White House Chief of staff to capsules? Yeah I'd like them to. These are very unfair hearings. I want them to testify to testify in the Senate with they'll get a fair which brings us to our leadoff discussion on a busy Tuesday night with us from London and traveling but the President Shannon Petty Pisa Veteran Journalists Senior White House reporter for NBC News Digital here with us in New York Mile Wiley former assistant. US Attorney for the Southern District of New York. Now with the new school here in New York and Lonnie Chen back with US research fellow. Hello at the Hoover Institution former presidential campaign advisor to both Marco Rubio and Mitt Romney. Good evening and welcome to all of you Counselor My. I'd like liked to begin with you. I heard a lawyer on cable tonight. Say This is much more direct and serious and damming and specific than any similar Muller Document and all previous impeachments of Johnson Nixon. And Clinton in your reading of this did they make the case. Will the the American people agree. They made the case. How many of the American people are going to read all three hundred pages? Well number one. They not not only made the case it reading. It was like seeing a flood of evidence and having read it after reading the Republican an version of a report. On the pre buttle they didn't even have a sandbag to hold back the waters that are in this report. And let me just. You actually already identified some of the key points but this is this is really laying out a play in three acts if what they can due to your question about whether people will pay attention to really not three hundred pages. You could boil it down to twenty pretty easily. They laid out a very clear. Your timeline which is helpful. But it's really three acts. One is the direct involvement of the president in setting up the drug deal. The Second Act is is the preparation is bringing home the drug deal and then the third act is getting caught in the drug deal. And once you do that you can pinpoint in point the specific points that are very clear. Very simple in the report documented with evidence that shows Donald Trump's direct involvement. You pointed to one of the most damning which is the exchange of the statement that the Ukrainians are supposed to make one of the very specific. Perfect pieces of evidence in the report is on August ninth the day before that exchange of the actual text of what the Ukrainians were supposed to say there. Our calls from Rudy Giuliani and sandline. sunlen makes two calls to the White House after those two calls totaling twenty minutes to the White House he then text Kurt Volker and says police really wants the deliverable which he said in testimony meant the announcement of those investigations that is Donald trump directing and that is hard evidence and there has been no rebuttal. It'll to that Shannon. Thank you so much for getting up way too early to talk to us on live television tonight our time morning your time is there any way to measure. Was this worse than what was expected. If for no other reason the presence of these phone logs which are very hard to explain lying away as Maya noted. I think that is a new twist that the White House and the president's advisors weren't necessarily expecting because I I will note The White House has really been the dark on this process. Because they've not really been cooperating. They refuse to participate in this event. So that means they're lawyers don't have access to what the witnesses are handing-over or these committees might have so that could come as a surprise The idea that the president's personal lawyer who the president has repeatedly said it's his personal lawyer. The White House has referred to him as an individual citizen is calling the situation room five times as you noted this call to this negative one number. Who Don't know who that belongs to but I will point out that other people I have seen have noted that that negative one number also came up in the Roger Stone? Trial when when Roger Stone with having conversations with the president so we don't know definitively that but that implication is out there And we had seen the poll numbers number starting to serve trend down a bit when it came to support for impeachment particularly among Independence now that seemed to boost a little bit in the past week or so after these public hearing so of course we have to watch for is with this sort of new. It's really sort of a turn of the screw even though this is a big report and very definitive sort of one more step along this process to to see what happens then of course the president has had an opportunity overseas to sidestep. This is to appear president busy being presidential and working on behalf of the American people but of course he hasn't been able to help himself but to wade back into this muck of impeachment while he's here here when he gets asked about it by reporters and I don't think that's going to be any different today. He has a press conference later today. My time tomorrow your time. Well he'll certainly be asked about this and have an opportunity to to really go back at it if he wants to. Democrats and now to the brave lifelong Republican sitting in our midst of Lonnie me. I want to read you this from David. Fromm on social media tonight smoking gun. Showing text of draft statement without Barista in two thousand sixteen elections and then updated text including those words Lonnie few had to prove it. Could you prove that. That's demand could you prove that that is indeed data quid pro quo or as David calls at a smoking gun. Yeah I mean precisely to Shannon's point because the White House hasn't been participating in the process. You end up with disclosures like this as well as the phone records which presents another layer of difficulty. Now I don't think it's going to impact how Republicans respond to this in general on Capitol L. Hill in the media sort of folks who are in Republican circles by and large. I think the response is GONNA remain the same which is that regardless of. How do you feel about what may have happened? Those things do not rise to an impeachable offense that is the defense. We have repeatedly heard in addition to some discussion of of things that didn't happen like Ukraine meddling in the two thousand sixteen election. Put that aside for a moment with respect to how Republicans respond now it seems increasingly. You're hearing hearing well yes there stuff here potentially but it does not rise to that level and therefore this is something for the political process of elections not for the political process of impeachment impeachment. Maya five floors north of us here our friends at SNL referred to Lebanon Gore as the two Shrek. So let's take it as a lev- Shrek number one and he may be cooperating. He may very well be talking about everything he picked up your nose to the feds. What does that mean gene for the jeopardy? The President May in saying maybe say. Nothing of Rudolph Giuliani. Well certainly would often on. You should be very concerned there. There is some peril to the president. I let's say we don't know because one where we let love one. He wants unity to he is indicted sighted and while there is an agreement to share documents the US Attorney's office is still gathering more evidence. And you know he's he's got definitely some self interest we have to see what he has and we may not because it will be governed by protective order. So there's a lot of complicated stuff happening right now around this but I think as the phone logs showed and as you know Parnis has made public statements he had a very lengthy interview in In The New Yorker With Adam and to use where he really lays out all of his access to Donald trump is planting the seeds in April with Donald Trump about Maria von Vich and how she was bad news you know his pairing and connecting Rudy Giuliani and then him serving a translator role he has placed himself himself directly in an engagement that includes conversations with the president. So who knows what I would say is in a way based on everything we're seeing it's it's gravy but we already had the Turkey and the Turkey was pretty damn noise Shannon beyond cool it would be to tell somebody to call Oh you and then casually repeat that your number is negative one. We'll try to get past that Frank Figliuzzi earlier on this network said that with a little convincing this could would begin to shape up like a Rico case there are a lot of names and if not names titles in this at least one of them. The acting eighteen chief of staff on the trip with the president trying to talk to the members of NATO. The president has complained early and often that this is coming out while Al.. He's traveling overseas. But this kind of thing can just subsume the other news on an overseas trip as you noted certainly and this was an opportunity and I know White House advisers had been looking forward to this opportunity to show the president engaged in substantive issues talking about trade Iran Syria Russia national security. Big Picture issues to again look like a president hard at work that was the strategy that was very affective for Bill Clinton. They sent him out across the country When he was asked about impeachment he did of course weigh in on it and several key moments but for the most part he he would just say you know? I am focused on bigger issues here. Nancy Pelosi she was recently in Madrid when she was asked about impeachment. She used that as an opportunity to say I'm overseas. I'm focused on other things. I WanNa talk about impeachment This president spent about two hours yesterday talking to reporters. He did talk about a number of issues but when asked about it he went right into it. calling Adam Schiff a maniac Calling him a sick person Repeating again that this is an entire folks and you have to think this report coming out as he is sitting down with world leaders today a number of them have official NATO summits. What must it say to them as well that even if this is an impeachable these type of actions the president's been engaged in and Lonnie Beck in this country? I want to show our viewers ear former boss who went there today on the subject of Russian meddling in our elections. I saw no evidence from our intelligence legis community nor from the representatives today the Department of State that there is any evidence of any kind that suggests that Ukraine interfered in our elections. We have of ample evidence that Russia interfered in our elections. So the question is about your former boss. Is that what Republican sounds like. And if that's true why is John. No relation Kennedy using the Russian talking points well you know I think for a lot of Republicans it with Donald Trump. It's all or nothing and it is unacceptable to soon not express the point of view that Ukraine meddle in the election. Even though the intelligence services Senator Romney said clearly do not demonstrate that that happened in in fact we know factually the Russians did and I think you know look senator. Romney is going to say exactly what it is. That is truthful about the situation. He is not afraid to do that. That he's in a different position though potentially from other senators who may not have the political attitude that he does not to justify. Say That that's right or wrong simply saying that you've got different. The people in different positions but with respect to Senator Romney you can always expect him to say exactly what it is. That's on his mind and exactly what it is in. This case is clear. Evidence that that the Russians interfered not the Ukrainians. It's very important statement. Though because it gives other Republicans potentially some cover to come out and say okay look this notion that the Ukrainians were involved involving the election is just ludicrous. We we shouldn't go there whether we wanted to send. The president is one thing but talking about something. That didn't happen yet. Another much obliged to our big three on a Tuesday night. Hi Shannon petty piece from Faraway London Lonnie Chan Mile widely. Thanks to the three of you. Greatly appreciate it coming up the house. Democrats impeachment report. Mentions him five hundred twenty five times. That can't be good for Rudy. Giuliani and later. The president bids sarcastic farewell to another former. Democratic presidential. Presidential candidate perhaps not expecting the response. He got from her right away. The eleventh hour just getting started on yet another consequential Tuesday night. Everyone Steve Kornacki here. We have heard explosive testimony from key witnesses in the public impeachment hearings. So what's next. As the case for impeachment Ben made could the President Count on Republicans support in a Senate trial. And how could it affect the twenty twenty election. Will every Monday Wednesday and Friday I talked to NBC News reporters to answer these questions and more on article two inside impeachment it's NBC News. PODCAST host. We break down what matters what's next and what it means for our country search now wherever you're listening to this podcast to subscribe for free. Thanks for listening it so I decided Sharon I'm not GonNa go to the Ukraine. You'RE NOT GONNA go. I'm not going to go because I think I'm walking into a group of people that are enemies of the president. The day before announcing his Ukraine trip was off. Giuliani told the New York. Times back on May ninth. He was headed to Ukraine to to push for investigations. That would help. Trump Giuliani said at the time quote. We're not meddling in an election where meddling in an investigation which we have a right to do. Giuliani is now of course central figure in all of this and today a new report in the Atlantic details what then president elect of Ukraine was thinking when he learned Giuliani wanted to meet with him in May Franklin four rights quotes Alinsky found the mayor's relationship with the president maddeningly on clear was Giuliani unofficial representative of the trump administration or a freelance operator. Did Zelinski have a diplomatic obligation to meet with him. And why did Giuliani want to call a so much trouble for a presidency. That hadn't even begun so Linski seemed to sense Giuliani's capacity for troublemaking with us for more of the aforementioned Franklin former staff writer for the Atlantic and happens to be the author of this article. Frank thank you very much for coming on. Ah how how involved was rudy. And is there a Tom Hagen. Moment where the president elect puts together. Are these two guys Levin Ebor and Rudy and thinks Oh my goodness this guy has just one client. He reports tobacco. Oh I think the Lansky as he was coming into office didn't know that much about Giuliani. He didn't understand what capacity he was descending sending on Kievan but he knew that he was causing trouble. Everybody around the landscape told him that. You don't want to get involved with this guy if you can't help it because you don't want Ukraine to become a politicized issue one of the great advantages. That Ukraine has had is that it's had bipartisan support. as it's fought a war against Russia but I think they also felt that they were totally cornered by Giuliani. Here he was coming. And it was was almost an accident that they avoided this I trap of having to meet with them in the transition period. Were not for that New York Times article which which leaked his visit and put pressure on Guiliani not to go. There would have been this collision much earlier on the call. Records are fascinating. They are rather their indelible. You don't forget them once you've looked through them and then one name in particular sticks out that's the office of Management and budget explain to viewers why it's so notable that he was in touch allegedly with them right so in the impeachment proceedings. There is still this one gap gap in the evidence. which is that? We know that there was this quid pro quo that they were asking for the investigation. We knew we know that the military aid was on hold old. But we don't have that that one last link other than Gordon Silence testimony that show is that the the president was was rendering the aid conditional on as the lansky announcing an investigation into Barack Obama and into the twenty sixteen election now. Giuliani is the mastermind of this operation. He is the OPS guy. He's running around the bureaucracy. The call log show that he's he's He's all over the place he's talking to Pompeo he's talking to Bolton and indeed he's talking to the Office of Management and Budget and he's talking to them at a very sensitive Steve moment because he's really turning the screws on the Ukrainian at that moment he's just met with the land skis right hand guy undergill. Forgive your Mac in Madrid They have a draft statement that they're trying to get out that that has what they call the deliverables and so if Giuliani is turning the screws by also checking in with the O. M. B. to make sure that everything is on track with with the withholding of aid did the we're seeing some suggestive evidence of linkage. I highly recommend that everyone within the sound of our voices and watching tonight seek out. This article recall. Our guest has written because it is a fascinating ride through what we've just learned Franklin four. Thank you very much coming on with US tonight and coming up for us. Their job is to promote peace around the world and yet our next guest says the president is waging war against them. Um In recent weeks career diplomats like ambassadors Marie Ivanovich and Bill Taylor have testified. About how a smear campaign with a financial and partisan motivation overtook American foreign policy in Ukraine. And our next guest reports it doesn't and they're quote. Trump is waging war on America's diplomats is the title of Julia Office piece in the current G. Q. Magazine. It begins with the story of foreign service US officer in the London embassy claiming he was punished after praising President Obama during a public event and back with US tonight we are so pleased I used to have the aforementioned a Russian born American journalists and these days correspondent for G. Q.. Julia had me thinking of this tonight. After the first three career public servants appeared at the hearing. Donald trump junior said this on twitter America Higher. Donald trump to fire are people like the first three witnesses. We've seen career government bureaucrats and nothing more and so I ask you. What must it be like for for the folks doing their jobs to have their very job and their career choice under fire by the president and his henchmen and women well to Donald Trump junior point at least the government bureaucrats though they are an elected at least take an oath to the constitution? When you have Rudy Giuliani trump's personal lawyer and live live Parnassus and eager fruman running around who are accountable to nobody but themselves I would argue I'd Ra- I'd rather have the bureaucrats working for us but these foreign service officers you know. They they work long hours. They work often in difficult. Conditions in places like Iraq and Afghanistan in places like China and Russia where they're closely monitored and surveilled and followed often harassed They do it for a lot. Less money Neither than they would make in the in the private sector and they do it most of them do it out of passion. They really believe in this American project as Corny and cheesy as it sounds. They really believe in advance advancing America's national of security interests and values abroad and a lot of them have told me that in the last as three years. You know When you take the advancement of American values out of it and the and factor in the personal attacks and the fact that the State Department Hartman is being basically a visceral. The equation doesn't make sense anymore. We've seen a massive exodus We got numbers that nobody had seen before in just the first two years of trump's administration almost half of the State Department's senior Foreign Service officers have left either have retired tired or have been forced out what we've watched a A US senator parroting the talking points that were formed by Vladimir Putin over the last two weeks. Now I want to show you this. This is Tucker Carlson from Fox News just last night. Could any of these people actually tell you why Vladimir Putin it's so bad. Why is he so bad? Chuck Todd says okay. Speak slowly so I can understand what makes Vladimir Putin worse than I don't know a whole list of American allies. So Julia we took the bait by airing that and now I can offer you the question. What makes Vladimir Putin so bad? You know just asking. The question that has been addressed. In several books including Bhai Fiona Hill who testified magnificently in front of the House. Intelligence Committee couple couple of weeks ago doesn't mean nobody's answered it just means he hasn't read the books Ladimir. Putin is bad because he has stolen tens and tens of billions of rubles. Listen dollars from his countrymen while And women while schools and hospitals crumble and highways crumble. He has killed journalists he has put dissenters enters and jail. He has built a cult of personality autocratic regime in Russia that is extremely hostile to its neighbors. It violates all kinds of international treaties. But you know now that I say this I imagine Tucker Carlson would say well. That sounds great. And it's exactly kind of how we would want Donald Trump to be so. It's kind of hard to reason with somebody who doesn't want to be convinced. And who thinks that these are examples of good behaviour fee. Thank you so much I no. It may not be top of mind for our viewers but when we next have you on. We're going to talk about what you put out on social media this weekend about the rise of anti-semitism that so many of us us are seeing out there on a daily basis. You'll Yaffe guest. Thanks for returning to our broadcast and coming up. After a spectacular launch a subdued departure just today and with that another Democrat is gone from the race and there was a time some saw her as a prohibitive favorite favor. Hey It's Chris Hayes you know. 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Wherever you get your podcasts over the last few days I have come to one of the hardest artist decisions of my life? So here's the deal guys. My campaign for President simply does not have the financial resources to continue California. Senator Kamala Harris has now back to being a California senator just last night here. We showed you this. She had already fallen behind Mike Bloomberg in one poll. All national poll granted but Bloomberg's Ben in the race. Not yet two weeks. He's already spent more on TV than Harris had raised during the length of her entire campaign. And and so just two months shy. The Iowa caucuses the first big target. Harris is out. Her campaign launch was among the best of the television an age in front of a crowd of twenty thousand highly energized people on a sparkling day in her hometown of Oakland back in January but then came came some missteps and some struggles and then a few days ago. A lot of her staffer spilled their concern in the pages spectacularly so of the New York Times this evening the president sent her off with post that read too bad we will miss you. Kamla to which the senator shot back. Don't worry Mr President I'll see you at your trial. Trial here to talk about impeachment and Twenty Twenty John Alma National Affairs Analyst Co author of Game Change and double down and Co host of the circus on on showtime we. Can we get the new season out of Mr High Allman at all January. Bud Okay. We'll be back we're they. Were there all through those primaries use for the travel it means in your life not a problem. What happened to Kamla Harris? I think she couldn't figure out why she was running for president. And I think it's an umbrella important thing you know. She's one of the. She was candid with enormous enormous potential. Many people in the Democratic base and the Democratic establishment looked at her entering the race that she was a top tier candidate. For the moment you got in I was at that event Oakland it it was as well staged and well produced and as strong as any campaign announcement. I think I've ever seen but the reality was that on some very fundamental issues. We spent more time talking about healthcare in this race than any other racists the most important issue for Democratic voters. She couldn't figure out whether she was for Medicare for all or not for Medicare for all. She went back and forth on that issue. That kind of inconsistency is a problem. She was very good at convincing people. She would be formidable debater people could imagine her onstage wjr against Donald Trump. What they couldn't get from her really was a positive vision for what she wanted to do for the country and I know her campaign struggled to kind of formulate what aspirated vision thing was going to be for her and I think in the absence of that some of the other problems that you had including on the fundraising side ended up being a ended up being fatal okay? Can you tell me how it is that we're looking at the next democratic debate with C. of only white faces on that stage the most diverse field. That's ever run for president either party in the history of the country and we're going to get to this debate right now. They're going to be six people on that stage. All of them white. I think we got. There are to no small extent because Democratic National Committee decided to institute a Bunch of rules that have forbidden some people all from being on the stage. Who probably should have been on the stage at some of those people or White People Michael Bennett? Steve Bullock could just dropped out of the race people who have won in red and purple states who on paper paper or electable candidates who got barred from the debate stage in August in the interest of winnowing. The Field Cory Booker. Someone who is not a white person who right now is barred from being on on the stage in December who many people think is as credible as anybody else in there in the race. There's the way we winnowed fields in the past Bryan. You've covered some of these races. I've covered seven of them. We would have the field. That was what the primary was for. People ran out of money or they ran out of support. They didn't have the Democratic National Committee or any National Committee saying well. If you don't have enough certain a number of polls and a certain amount of fundraising we're going to keep you off the stage. I think that's part of why we've ended up where we are and it is. I think to a lot of Democrats. I talked to a ridiculous situation. And what about Mike. Bloomberg Bloomberg doesn't have a case to say. Look I'm self-financing. I got billions at home in a wheelbarrow. So you can't use the the standard of people donating money to me. I look I I gotta say there are a lot of people in the Democratic Party who find it objectionable the notion that Mike Bloomberg is going to come in here and try to buy the Democratic nomination kid in at their core God they think this this is the unacceptable. I find it troubling myself on the other hand. I don't see any good reason why Mike Bloomberg should not be on debate stages going forward man was a three term mayor of New York Orc city and has as as a credible candidate as there is in the field people in the Democratic Party. Who are worried about being donald trump should be able to hear from people who have some reasonable claim to be donald trump? I think I don't know call me crazy. This is why we love having you. Thank you very much for coming by and seeing your old friends here thank you sir. Our are thanks to John. Holloman on this Tuesday night and coming up for us the author of a new book on One Supreme Court Justice the guy most closely identified with beer. Is here here to tell us what we're about to see. Play out on live television. That may seem eerily familiar this confirmation processes become a national disgrace the constitution Russian gives the Senate and important role in the confirmation process. But you have replaced advice and consent with search and destroy Washington Post veteran columnist Ruth. Marcus provides striking new details about the confirmation fight to put that band Brett Cavanaugh on on the Supreme Court. It's in her new book just out today and in her latest column she writes about the parallels between that confirmation fight and the current impeachment inquiry and I quote from the conservative vantage point. Perhaps the greatest similarity is the deep sense of agreement about the motives of Kavanagh's critics then and trump's uh-huh now those seeking to impeach the president over his conduct with respect to Ukraine have long been searching desperately for something anything with which take down the designated victim. We're happy to have Ruth Marcus with us here tonight by day. She is Deputy editorial page editor and columnist for the Washington. Post as I might have mentioned she also happens to be the author of Supreme Ambition Brett Cavenaugh and the conservative takeover. It is great to have you and I I have to tell you ruth. I have a democratic friend. Who says here's the only viewers guide you need to what's about to happen? And he points to a picture of Jeff flakes concerned face. Jeff Flake gave his concern. Face a good long ride during the cavanaugh hearings especially after he was made made aware of those women's concerns in the elevator. Jeff Flake just decided to confirm the guy left for Arizona. Didn't look back is what is past prologue in your view. I I think it is without the beer. Thanks so much for having we need to talk about this. I think that we're going to see a Some degree of concern face perhaps from Republicans Republicans senators and then they are going to move on and of not vote to convict and remove the president from office and at least Senator Flake and I write about him extensively in the book and the long night title he says he had longest night of his life in the Senate woke up deciding to vote for justice. Then judge Cavenaugh to confirm him then. Dan decided to go forward with this. FBI investigation but didn't push to have the FBI continuous investigation where it should go. And I think that We may look back at Jeff Flake and other Republican senators conduct in the cavenaugh nomination and a Wish we had jeff flake back to deal with the Impeachment trial because right now as I see it. There's not a a lot of appetite for really getting to the facts here. There's just fear of Donald trump fear of voters and a desire to you. Just move on from this one of the news year. Bits in an already newsy book concerns the contact between between two fathers justice. Kavanagh's father and blahsy Ford's father after the vote to confirm. Tell us as much as as we should know to force us into our favorite bookseller by tomorrow morning. I'm please go to your favorite bookseller by tomorrow morning. If not tonight this is A really difficult scene in the book of it's the morning after justice. CAVENAUGH is confirmed as it happens. Happens in the very small clubby world of conservative and elite Washington. Ralph Blasi Christine Blasi. Ford's father is is a golf club. Friend and colleague at the elite Burning Tree Country Club of Ed Kavanagh Brick Kavanagh's father and the morning after after the confirmation Ed Kavanagh opens his email and he sees an email from his friend. Ralph Blasi and it says both of our families have been through a lot. I'm glad Brett was confirmed. Now Ralph Blasi was privately supportive of his daughter. He and his wife did not go to her her hearings but they went to visit her afterwards. She did not ask them to go to the hearings. He told her repeatedly that he was proud of her. But there is the the fact and it is a fact of this email and it's pretty shattering fact that somebody whose daughter said that And Brad Kavanagh sexually assaulted her would say he was glad she was confirmed. Perhaps this was the observance of a man who was just being ungracious. It's hard I don't do mine reading just do reporting But it is what it is. It's a pretty astonishing email. I hold in my hand months months of research and writing by veteran journalist a substantial book to add to what we may think we know about this matter. Our thanks to Ruth Marcus columnist and and author for staying up late with US tonight again. The branding the brand new book is called Supreme Ambition Brett Cavanaugh and the conservative takeover. Thanks for coming up. It's about something the president said today in London. And when we come back we will let you be the judge of whether it is true or or false but the stock it goes up again. I watch jobs okay last thing before we go tonight. That was the president in London London today while talking. Generally about China point was his assertion that he doesn't watch the stock market. Let's try something here. You be the judge. Do you think he's telling telling the truth. In that moment we went back just a month in his public comments. So listen to this. You'd be the judge and it's always nice to to begin by saying the stock market is up again. We just set another record. We have another big record. Stock Market Day another record and the stock market and the history of our country which which to me means jobs and a lot of other things we just hit the highest number in the history of the stock market so the stock market headed all time high Yesterday the stock market is up big today. Today the stock market hit a new all-time high. You know we just said another stockbroker so you saw that right. I saw this morning on. It was just announced the Nasdaq for just this year's up twenty seven percent all three. We had Nasdaq we had SNP. We had Dow low three if you look all three we picked up tremendous stock market and economic numbers. The overall stock market is through the roof from the time of the election. They actually went wild the day after I one set a new record. I think it's the twenty second time this year the time there were an office. We've said over one hundred and I think it's substantially more than one hundred people wouldn't know these numbers because most of you aren't very active in the market. I think it's like one hundred eighteen. I told you we have a record stock market today. Yeah I think it's the one hundred nineteenth day that we've set a record. I think that's one hundred thirty two times that we've set a record frog economy we've ever had double one. Thank you reminder. That was just in the space of a month here again. Just for comparison the president today but at the stock market goes up. I don't watch the stock. Ah Watch jobs jobs. And so you can be the judge of our non-market watching president in his own words to take us off the air this evening and with that that's our broadcast for this Tuesday night. We're back on the air nine. AM thank you for being here with us good night from our NBC News headquarters here in New York.

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