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Dan Ziprecruiter the smartest way dire. This is the Dan lebatardshow with Stugatz. PODCAST so it took us a couple of days unfortunately to get to the story because We don't react well to breaking news around here and so we are late to the story of Odell Beckham Dot com junior after Lsu won the national championship handing out money on the field money that LSU originally said was novelty money fake money and and now they've had to walk that back but nick right tweets of Fox Sports of course it was real money Odell was handing out who in the world thought. Audit wasn't good for him to. It's his damn money and he could do with it whatever. He pleases excited for my immediate colleagues to give this roughly one thousand times this coverage average and scorn they gave elements arrest. Why is it always about race with you nick? Right Jesus I mean the player apologised. This guy is honestly every talent added because this is nick rights thing nowadays like that. It's it's the reverse dog whistle where you point out edmonds doing this harmless thing where he's just drinking and dancing on someone's car having fun. Granting it up and Odell out. They're giving money away players. Who are going to be rich soon because Lsu only has pros you know what it's a crutch Karachaganak right uses? It's a crutch Odell Beckham is always making it about himself. He's always on the field. He's always getting in in the middle of every story as the second best receiver on a six ten team. My kind of guy and he finds himself please without one where he has gone to nationally. When you move away from the microphone like that it's because you're pleased with yourself nope I was reaching for something in my pocket? So Nick Reid is is out here telling people that Odell Beckham. This is an argument. He's making that Odell Beckham should just be on the field breaking the rules. Both breaking the rules of amateurism. Even though giving Joe Borough money isn't breaking the rules because as soon as that game is over he no longer or had any eligibility. Call me naive but I bought. LSU statement that it was fake money. That seems like something that would do. And I was appalled to to find out that this was indeed real money that Joe Borough admitted to taking it was a shocking affair so originally an LSU athletic. Nick official told the advocate. On Tuesday. Morning and I really do think we should start thinking about asterisks for Lsu and vacated titles and stripping everything from them ignoring everything we just saw but an LSU athletic official told the advocate. On Tuesday morning. The money was not real. The school was still looking into the matter. The official said later Tuesday because although novelty bills were found on the field during the post game celebration. It was unclear whether those were. The bills. Beckham was handing out. Now there's not real close but now they've got a new statement We are aware of the situation regarding Odell Beckham junior interacting with LSU student athletes and others unaffiliated with the team following the championship game. Monday night. Initial information suggested bills. That were exchanged were novelty builds information and footage reviewed food shows apparent. Cash may have also been given to LSU student athletes we were in contact with the NCAA and the immediately upon learning of the situation in which some of our student athletes may have been placed in a compromising position by that Odell Beckham. We are working with our student athletes the NCAA CAA and the SEC. In order to rectify the situation which means probably taking back all that cat and putting it in their own pockets and paying ordure on with Joe Borrow he was at the edge of three full minutes waiting waiting to burn that line. How do you prove it's the same money checking serial numbers? What if Joe Burgess has hundreds of dollars in his backpack for some reason? You know. I didn't know that that came from O.. J. Can we just explore like how official statement sounded initial reports suggested that it might be faked but then we reviewed tape. Yeah I review the tape to us on twitter timeline and also those players looked like it was a new thing for them like they were. They were well aware of how the money handshake worked the money handshakes been around for a while. Now I remember was so long ago but it's wonderful it really is when win GonNa Bring Down Your program again. I guess when you go up to national prominence of the kind that LSU reaches this week There there was a time and University of Miami Football. What I'm about to say is not in any way made up? It's all true That a famous rapper was a betting on the games ames and he was betting on the University of Miami and he. You Miss Rapper. That was a Miami Fan. He was sharing some. I think vanilla ice yes. He was sharing some of his winnings with the players when he would win. Obviously that's a little more dangerous than this when you get into the gambling L. amounts of it but also he was putting out bounties. This was pre bountygate. This was twenty years before bountygate bounties on anyone. Anyone who injured Notre Dame's players and that money was being held by the team priest. How were are scandaled so much much better thirty years ago than they are today? That's pretty good. A Hotel Beckham scandal that I'm interested in Odell smacked a cop on the but according to like someone's instagram live. I also reviewed that film but you like the scandals back in the eighties nineties. Like what are we talking about here. Wait Guy Odell Beckham is very rich whether he does it in. Front of the cameras are doesn't in private. Who cares but that was a fresh scandal? The first of its kind of wrapper ranna sidelines. Money with the priest bounties Notre Dame players. They've got me in trouble and people hated me and a beer bottle broken over my Chin and sports illustrated call for the the disbanding of the program. Coincidentally has dick by Tau called for the end of the Miami program because Odell Beckham junior handing LSU players money. I know we. You have a persecution complex but this is the kind of stuff that makes me feel like it's it's earned. Can you guys explain to me though how this stuff becomes what it is news today. It's a talking point today on a slower day because this happened three days ago it happened happened in front of everybody. Being hidden it was spreading in fact if I had to guess it's only an issue because social media made it an issue because my guess is did some people notice it before the NCAA Lsu and SEC and anybody else. I think it really became an issue when Joe Borrow said that he actually took real cash. Right that's what it really. Yeah because the doors bought the explanation that it was fake money We all brushed her. An of it and said that's good. Dad would never do that. No they said it was fake money. Odell Beckham tonight. Why why would any walk around with a bunch of why would you lie about that? Who is objecting to this in all honestly who who object Clemson and the IRS? The Nation persecuted Miami Fans. Aa maybe those Rick Pitino something to do with the Group of people you guys I wanna be aligned with a look at that list again the. Irs Yep look at the Group of people you guys just put in from gains fans which I believe is the worst of the group. I mean you don't WanNa mess with the IRS. Trust me data. Do you know how much money was made that day by everyone. The people that Odell Beckham was giving money to by my count at least one hundred and fifty bucks. He's he's giving away a few hundred dollar bills as I want you to think about how many networks ESPN devoted to cashing. In on all that injustice. I is there is. There is all kinds of coaches and people getting bonuses companies in a suit on the field waving giving away one hundred thousand dollars to somebody body. The President of our company gave away a hundred thousand dollars. It's not one Odell Beckham was giving a good job at Jimmy Petar J.. Hey Jamie Jamie Jamie really took US three days to get to the National Stugatz here. Everybody has to taxes and yet not. Everybody feels comfortable doing taxes. which doesn't seem right especially when you consider all the amazing things these these same people accomplish every day of their lives? Turbo tax believes that with the right tools and encouragement. People can be good anything yes even taxes and to help people feel more more comfortable with the tax process. Turbo tax live gives you personal access to experience. 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If I find find out that there was financial aid properly getting them not hiding that story I totally leverage that information for Money Felony Stugatz. He's got to be the only radio personality in America who freely admits. Yeah I guess that goes all the other spots have been taken. He's like serving surveying the landscape on. Where can I plant my flag? I got this right. Nobody else wants. Why is there no one here? Wow this looks like such a great land. I could just claim all fraud. Awed and crime worked out well from these live with our show with his two guys. What's on ESPN radio as it regards the Odell Beckham stuff? I would simply say to you that when the rules are dumb. Break them whether it's your government or anyone else like if you and you have to take the consequences but if the rules are dumb you should live your life your way and break them. If you think they're dumb and accept whatever consequences consequences there are from living in either an NCAA system or a government that is doing things against your principal system. I don't like play Paying taxes are you telling me just to not pay taxes Indians. I gotTa take the consequence not want those consequences. I if you know but you're immoral era like you're just generally immoral like your rules for living there dumb. I was like what you said. It was cool and you could like attributed to like Dan title like a famous quotes thing. But you playing fast and loose. I think with the rules when the rules are dumb I break them and they I mean that's all in the eye of the holder. Yeah what do you mean. It's all in the eye of the beholder. Play life by your own rule but sometimes you got to play ball and how life works. Oda Beckham income does not have to play ball on the football field after the national championship. And not give money to guys who have made him happy because he's got school pride just because the NCAA. He has a set of strictness and rules that he doesn't have to live by anymore there are consequences possibly to the school that he loves and his players ears and those players they love but playing the rules not Odell Beckham. The rules are dumb. But who cares when you can't play for a season but the rules are the rules roles and so other people potentially getting in trouble because he violated the roles he might be doing what. You're saying that the rules are the rules. You could come and say the rules of the rules and I'm telling you Odell Beckham doesn't need to abide by the NCAA's ruled light. Does players do not need to abide by their rules. A players do and like Odell Beckham. Junior was a binding to any rules again. He slapped a cop on the rear. Right I mean you WanNa break the roles break the rules but you be the person that breaks. The rules. Don't put other people in a position to also break the rules. You're going to be the guy who says don't put others in a position to accept money. That's an argument. You're going to make on the radio. Don't put others in a position where they can make. Money is something you want by Stu gods his name up saying don't put others in a position where they can't say no they don't want to say no and they're breaking the rules against your more ethical standards as a player or you fear your eligibility being lost them. Don't accept the money or tell him afterward not around the cameras like what like. What are you guys talking about a lot of decision making to like you have to process that entire situation when Odell Beckham? Junior's walking through them money hand. My point is as leave it to the NCAA to take joyous celebration and make it about rules. We can't blame Odell Beckham junior a little bit because this was stupid. I don't care error. That Odell Beckham feels the need to give money to people who have made him happy. I'm assuming he does it in strip clubs like this wasn't him just acting out of general kind of this is sending a message right now because it's a big story player that can statement it. That's what I mean. That's why I feel like he's using these players and he's putting them at risk to make a statement more than just trying to do a good. You know who put them at risk all of us who put them in a violent game to play Monday night colliding into each other that To put them at risk all of us who probably the rest of us who profited off of the entertainment and the money made that night we all put them all at risk. You remember any of the guys carted off the field. Can you guys remember. Any of the guys limping off the field. You know their names care. Disposable bodies turned over for profit. Now so it's our fault. So they didn't have played the national national. Champion Wiggins Wigan Limited. What's his first name is? Is that his first name or last name. His first name is T. or if that's just a letter it begins with maybe wrong. Is it D- dammit. He was wiggins. I should have thought that wiggins. Yeah Yeah we did Dan Le Batard. We're going to get to Stu gods being checkmated by. Jj Watt here in the next segment. The great thing about facts. They're proven like the fact that crude oil contains impurities with that base. Oil made from natural gas is ninety. Nine point five percent free of impurities and the fact that pennzoil is the first motor oil made from natural gas not crude oil. It gives you unbeatable engine protection. The proof is in the pennzoil based on sequence for a test using sap w thirty escort at your local automotive retailer about Tara. Take Stu gods searching these SEC. Dan Le Batard show with two guys on ESPN radio. I do not believe that. Jj Watt has a lot of critics. I think that we can claim stu gods as his longest standing and loudest critic ever. Am I wrong about this. Does anyone else qualify for the throne of being critical of captain. America the way Stugatz nationally from Cedar Shining Sea for many years has been of. Jj Watt no one's clothes nor has anyone ever really going for for that he's been checkmated and he gets frustrated every once in a while because Jj watt. I think we can agree. He likes him some cameras. But I'm not going there. I'm not I'm not taking any shots. Okay all right fine. You don't have to take those believable work in the area. Oh He loves the camera I mean he does. There's no debating that the the camera compete checkmated before you Before you get back to your criticism. J. Watt tell the people what you were doing during the break which is mumbling under your breath about how hard he makes it to be critical of him. He created a new shoe the Reebok Valor different from his zero sack shoe and his eight eight shoe you and he never plays shoe but he did. Great a new shoe called and launched it Reebok Valor at donated all the proceeds from the shoe lines on veterans Raines like his grandfather was supposed to deal with that Captain America. How good he added this guy for that you a team of people created that shoe and jj Jay swooped in is put his name on other people's work? That's what happened there thing. Jj was in the lab. Cutting up fabric saying I don't know this one's going to match this shoe. Okay but lending your name name to something where all the proceeds are going to go to veterans. How do I get mad captain America? Let's let's aim at ABS shoe if the one that came up with the shoe. It's not a key just started doing things for charity. I'm confused why you've shifted on this. Because he's always been a guy that's been very charitable very I would say that Stugotz is major the move move formulaic guts. To point out that he went this aggressive with. Thank you for your service after that game on Sunday like after. They did that and he did that. He's like I never mind about that. Never mind about the veterans. Thank you for your service. I did nothing all all the proceeds. You really love me out to dry. There's two guys I'm trying to help you out here. Now follow me down this path. I know I know it's a losing position. Russian Stugotz Refuses to stay checkmate. It he he just. He won't do it. It was right around the floods one of my supposed to do A. Jj really came through roofers sitting in a time of need. He did whether he did it on camera or not. He really gained through the people of us then. So is it time to pivot. We go after someone else. I mean I just went after him on Monday. A Nice Guy. You can go after Russell Wilson. Nobody criticizes this could be your lanes to God. That's I mean who goes after. Did you guys see how happy he was after that loss like. Oh I have perspective on thing no well that important. I'm still a happy guy. Get over it that should be. That should be our lane. No one can be happy around. You guys are pro- NCAA segments ago. WPRO responsibility play volleyball here. Trying to set up for a spike and he should take heed Jericho. What are you doing? Listen I don't know what to do to captain. America forget today on the heels of him donating all the money to venerate house. This new information though to that point like this you don't today when you realized that man. Jj What's pretty good guy. The idea. That Stu gods one of the funny things about the Gods is the story. We've told a number of different times which is about ten years ago. He got carried away and offered to donate one hundred dollars per goal for the Florida Panthers and that night He did a bunch of interviews about what he was doing. The Panthers scored seven goals. And all that Stugotz ever actually gave to charitable efforts and the panthers was those interviews. He was doing about his charity. And that's the guy who's criticizing. Jj Watt for like conquering floods and helping our military. I was raising awareness. Yes yes you're doing interviews. You're you were so happily doing interviews like you. You did a victory lap on just saying you're giving uh-huh actually actually in really give it. It's a great victory lab. Everyone Ellen knows if you actually get the money or not so you expose you guys have made the argument. You guys have made the argument around here before that. What's the point of giving if people don't see you doing well? That is one hundred percent that is not dumb. You guys misunderstood my point with that argument. I'm saying these people that work in the service industry. They want to know that you liked their work. They don't want if they're gonNa make twenty dollars on the day they'd rather get a dollar from all twenty people that have nineteen people stiff them and only twenty from from someone else. They want to know every single person that I dealt with today thought I was good and gave me a tip. That's not false you so they'd rather have like thank you cards than tip. I'm saying if they're going to get twenty dollars regardless they'd rather have a dollar from all twenty people they help that day. As opposed to nine thousand nine hundred stiffs and only one guy gives them a huge tip. They'd rather be leave work saying I've helped everyone in. Everyone thought I gave get service. All I know is that when I tip somebody. I want everyone to know that I did. Yep same here. I don't put it in a jar I handed to you. You're either GONNA take my dollar or a couple of dollars or you're you're not getting it if they have a jar hover just so like because they're actually at like starbucks or something. I'm like turnaround white tipping with changes. Perfect 'cause you give less and it makes louder under noises so here. I'm an old put it on the poll when you tip at starbucks or places like it do you hover over the bull so that the worker sees you giving like two servers servers prefer everyone gives them five loud pennies over one guy giving them a twenty but they hear that that change hit the jar and they're like job well done about the server. This this is all about me and how good of paying I am. You don't say hey. Just put the change into the jar right you get the change in your hand and then you drop it in yourself. Ah sometimes if they're not looking throw it on the floor so that they all look drop the change. That's for you pick it up. How do you guys feel about the places? And they're more of more of them in Miami that ring a bell or make some sort of seen. I know bars do it but make some sort of seen when you're giving it's the best at I'd prefer for fireworks but I'll take the bell. I'm going to start bringing my own bell. Yeah just in case. 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So the audience is a bit agitated with me because every once in a while I'm the annoying obnoxious strident guy. I who reminds you that a lot of human beings more human beings than not are followers instead of leaders you go throughout human psychology ecology. You will find all sorts of testing that shows people behave Outside of their morals and ethics sometimes in scientific tests when simply following instead of leading where they can be guided lead. And so when I say if the rules are dumb break them a whole lot of people out here saying and what do you mean. They're the rules and so I just give you this by way of moving on because When I look at what happened with Lsu and Odell Beckham? I think the rules are unjust. And him breaking them to me makes sense. And those of you who it doesn't make sense to. I believe lever protecting a system. That's unjust but I'm just going to give you this quote sent in the twitter. If a law is unjust a man is not only right to disobey it he he is obligated to do so. That's Thomas Jefferson. That's one of the founding fathers. When you're saying here I think taxes are dumb? Taxes are foundation of this country country. You can think they're dumb and not WANNA pay them but they're foundation of this country in terms of getting your garbage picked up but I think people view the type of leadership that Odell backup junior expressed that night maybe it is leadership. There are better ways to go about it. You have a big name if you really care use your name use whatever platforms you have have to try to. We did to try to instigate Dan. Yes but that's leadership where it's also look at me too. Okay so wait a minute. The energy has to be your way. I'm not saying Dan listen. I want players lawyers to be paid. I'm just telling I'm trying to give you what the public is looking at. And they see a guy who was handing out dollar or hundred means to God sees a millennial look at me the athlete sleep for this generation. He's very looking okay. But it's hard for people like look at me and leadership at the same exact time. It's all pills while leadership is is breaking the rules but it's not a rule it affects him. It's not leadership because he's not endangered anymore. Live concert there are more risks for others than for him. But he's the one getting tame today you don't know the names of the players other than borough that he was giving money to at you will when they do an investigation and they're ineligible to play. Ben Found decide the enforcing body that is by all accounts. Totally unjust will levy. It's totally arbitrary penalty based on how they make the rules to protect the rule book. That was made made one hundred years ago before teammate. TV money flooded into the sport. That's fine but then again Odell Beckham junior faces no consequences the players. That's the best kind of anarchy. Probably not the best person to boost the argument about rules being dumb and follow what you want and when he owns six hundred slaves. Good point could've gotten around the founding father using Thomas Jefferson certain moral order a loophole in the founding fathers data minute hold on a second. That's not right at all. Like I like plenty of six hundred one day I the part. That's not right is I could like plenty of what Jim Brown stands for without liking that he also stands for the beating of women. Now I understand that but in terms of like just strictly rules in that quote probably find another one. Let's put it in Google. Let's find another minute about rules you you think I think he could have gotten around to. That is agreed. Is Thomas Jefferson. Not One of our founding fathers. That is not the debate here. He is one hundred percent founding this country. This country is founded on breaking the rules. It's how we became a country and MM slavery was a part of all that too but USA. Am I right Yeah USA. We talk of football or you. Don't WanNa Talk Thomas Jefferson and slavery. I will say this he did have six hundred slaves. Mike is Right three two of them while he lived and another seven more after there is death. He didn't free anyone after his debt. That's that's what it says. Let's go digging into like how he treated the slaves right Eh. Well he was he was having sex with some of them. Yeah we don't have to get into that So we're we're actually bring Thomas Jefferson before the actual game right. We would have is on a hell of a show during Thomas. Jefferson's time we would have been so controvercial. We would have been yelling at him. What do you do in Jefferson? One of our founding fathers is all this stuff was slavery I just be blurting out. Founding Fathers. That's right you're just. Learning nickname also bringing down the wrong Jefferson considering that they have a receiver governing. which if you trace it back yeah you think Thomas Jefferson Tj? Back in the day I thank you for taking the conversation to the dumbest possible play off. So Chris Cody has been invoked by this Aaron Hernandez Documentary Henry on Netflix. I think this is interesting because I'm pretty sure that what I'm watching and I'm only a third of the way through it is basically just a really condense condense cliff notes version of everything. Boston was covering at the time that the national media covered pretty poorly combined with what the Boston Globe did. Recently the podcast series that was super thorough took a long time and now on television POPs more. I think this is reaching more people because because it's really well done and we're all fascinated by the true crime nature of not understanding how Aaron Hernandez could possibly arrived in a place where he was killing people plural while in the middle of making forty million dollars with the Patriots. And I'm going to camp and and signing a new contract and Aaron Hernandez I mean think about what. I'm about to say. Tom Brady could have had Aaron Hernandez still keeping him young Aaron Hernandez would not be too old right now to still be playing football. In a way that Gronk hunk is not Aaron Hernandez represents one of the few skilled guys that the Patriots actually drafted to get. Tom Brady some help all the other help that they got other than Aaron Hernandez and Gronk was usually free agents and whatnot so Chris. You've been fascinated by this right. I feel like it's a lot of rehash but I also I'm finding finding interesting the way that they condensed it all for us so that we're watching something that while it's not exactly new news all of that stuff that I've seen so far has been in this podcast series series that the Boston Globe was doing. It's still fascinating hearing him talk. It's fascinating hearing how simple he was not not sort of measuring during what. His position was not introspective. In any way yeah hearing the phone calls for that he made from jail to countless people and as they move on but I got through two thirds of it so he talks even more people. That's the part that I'm just like. That's what you get to really get a sense of how he was dealing with things the way he was talking to Marquees pouncey his. It's beyond say his family members. I was riveted by that access. Age Right laughing about Smith and Wesson deal. Get Him Smith and Wesson deal because his agents tell him. I can't get Nike. swoosh switches on the jumpsuit. That access to those phone calls. You're right though it's it would be a lot of stuff we've already kind of known but that stuff was crazy but no you should watch it if you want to understand better and likes to God's get the cliff notes.

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