Episode 100: Larry Sharpe, Libertarian nominee for Governor
Right now we have another candidate on the line with WBAI. He is Larry Sharpe. He is the libertarian nominee for governor Mr. sharp, welcome to maximum Urfi. Thank you for having me. Thanks for being with us as Ben max from Gotham gazette alongside Jarrett Murphy from city limits. So for for voters and listeners of this program, why don't you take a few seconds, introduce yourself your background, not necessarily jumping into your platform quite yet, but but who you are and you don't know we want to get into that. We want to get into all sorts of details there ourselves. Yeah, yeah, no, but tell us, tell listeners a little bit about yourself. I am born in Manhattan. I adopted. I was then brought to the South Bronx which way I was raised as a little kid in the seventies. My mom was a waitress and working at Bank in my father was a corrections officer at Rikers island. When we got a little bit old around eleven, we moved out to Suffolk County, and that's where I grew up as a teenager. My father passed away when I was twelve. And obviously it was hard for me as anybody else who's lost a apparently young age. I ran off joined the Marine Corps when I was seventeen years old was in the marines for about six or seven years about six and a half years. When I came back, my mom was in trouble. She was she couldn't handle my father's death and she couldn't handle me leaving. And she was initially addicted to legal drugs and eventually illegal drugs. And she was a victim of the drug war and she was in prison and I pulled her out of prison trying to get her back up and running. So how hard it was for her to have a job, maintain a job. And when she had a job, she was the hostage to that job because you know, she was afraid of. She lost that job. They'd be no job for. I didn't like that and like my mom. Being a hostage. So I did something about, I started a small business and I made her the boss. So she and my step hop together own the business. And I ran a trucking business. We ran for several years until I got up and running. I then left. They ran that business and she ran that business until she retired. And when she retired, she did what too many New Yorkers do she packed up and left. She wanted to South Carolina, and that's where she passed away. I went off to have a couple of jobs than on the business that business did not do well when off and then this business. Now that have been doing this for fourteen years, and I'm a trainer consultant teacher executive also coach, I actually have been logic lines like Estee Lauder, and Modell's, and smaller clients like small law firms and IT firms been a teacher at John Jay and Brucke. And I've also been a guest instructor at the graduate level of both Yale and Columbia. And right now I do this. I am on, I'm doing everything I can to try to become governor of New York because this states in a death spiral and I want to change it on the one outsider who can make that happen. So you are a libertarian, and that's where that we hear every few years at election time. And I, it's, I. I'm sure you do so define there for us. What is the libertarian? What does it mean for you to be a libertarian look? Libertarian is the only answer here in New York state because libertarian is someone who says you can be as conservative or as liberal as you want to be. Just don't force others to be like that is says, law under the law is law means that if you don't do something at the end of every law is a guy or a gal with a gun who if you don't do what they tell you, they will put you in a prison and if you don't wanna go into that prison, they will shoot you. That means that law is only used when it's really important when is death or loss of lamb, a loss of property, a loss of health, then you use law, but not because you're doing something that I don't like not just that New York state. It means not having one city, whether that cities, Albany or or New York, whatever city run the entire state. We are a very massive, beautiful. Diverse state, and that means each county should be each county and each reasons to be its region, Rochester is not New York City. North country is not southern tier. Long Island has not what's in New York, and we should respect each region for the beauty that actually has. So what are, what are the types of things that come down from the state that you think each county or region or city should should be allowed to decide for itself? We'll look there. There are many things. The general rule I wanna break away as many unfunded mandates as I possibly can. Right. I one actually make education. I wanna make sure that up or regions does not have anywhere near as much power as it has. Right now. We have a bunch of things that come back with from Albany and come from DC. An example of that is why do we have standardized testing prior to high school? There should be no senators testing. Prior to high school. Standardized testing is an unfair way of gritting teachers. It's an unfair way of grading schools and it makes kids who are ten, eleven twelve years old, feel like they're dumb because they can't take tests well with quitting a second class. Level of student. Now, if we do that, what happened? We actually ended that which is what I want to do. Some things will happen. Number one, we'll wind up losing a common core, which I'm fine with common core disaster. Anyway, people think about getting rid of already. I'm in let it go away. If an educator, you know that sometimes it's okay to use common core. I actually the only person who says, let teachers teach, and then I don't ask administrators his majesty king. Andrew right now, his entire plan is getting non teachers to teach current teachers how to teach better. That's an embarrassment. I can't believe any teacher would support. There's majesty what a horrible horrible idea. Did I give you a one? Good one. Is that good. The education front. That makes sense. I'm sure to to us in listeners about decentralizing, some of the education policy making. Part of that, of course, is that education policy from the state includes as you mentioned policy directives and standards. It also includes a lot of a lot of money, and I'm wondering what would the budget of sharp government look like? Where are the cuts be? What would we not have? If you're if you're in charge. Here's what we will do. We will actually make a big shift that would make many people happy. As I said, once you get rid of standardized testing you, of course, the federal government will be upset and would try to punish us and take away money, and they would the budget right now is about sixty billion dollars. Overall, four billion dollars is federal funds that would go away. Now when that goes away, you go, God, the world's ending. Not yet. Let me tell you how we don't make the world end number one one that was four billion dollars go away also. So to all those strings, all those administrators that are sitting there, you know, doing grants the federal government doing granted. It's in covering this and checking this box and checking that box you. We actually have right now districts where there are more administrators in our teachers. The average teacher in New York state makes about eighty thousand dollars. As an average. The average administrator makes over six figures. You could easily let somebody's administrators go US somebody's minister as go. Now, what can you do? He just will have more freedom, but not just that he's could get raises or high Martinez or do things at a local district to do. This goes back to my not. Having all decide what they do. The individual districts can do what they feel appropriate as long as they are transparent. That as a key piece, they must be transparent, but I'm still not done. I don't even wanna go k. through twelve k through tens. Why the last two years for too many of our kids is Jim study hall smoking weed and playing video games. How do I know that? Because when we go off to college, most of the time, it is thirteenth grade, you can check out all the studies ask anybody who's been there. Our kids are not ready for college. It takes about six years for the average kid to graduate college. We should be ashamed of that. If even graduate, a graduation rates are horrible. I want wanted to go to tenth grade at that point, stop ticket test. You pass your test. There's your momma. What happens next? Every kid had sixteen has five options option. One you think college is right few awesome. Go to prep school, go to prep school that getting ready for your college of your choice. So you're going to go off to a biology history? English. Where do I do two years prep school. Awesome. Not right for you. You're that brilliant kid that can take an SAT and go to college right away. You're going to be a scientist. Also take two years. Guinness associate's degree. Now you're eighteen to rock and roll through great stuff. Well, you don't wanna do that. No worries. Go to a trade school. We are struggling in a state for trade, the trades, the trade school on this day of being destroyed. The average person in this state is fifty years old. That's a problem. I love my year olds. I'm fifty. I would like to the average that'll be thirty thirty five. How about that was struggling to get the trades and fill them in this state? Why don't we instead encourage them? You don't like that could get a job. Just go start working, learn a work ethic. Again, we have a problem with a bunch of twentysomethings who don't feel like adults. You make a mistake at sixteen. The price for failure is almost nothing compared to the price of your at twenty six huge difference. I want our twenty-somethings ready to rock and roll. I wanna see strolled steps. You know kitchen know that when the boss says shop at eight, it doesn't mean nine thirty. It means seven. Forty, five. They. Can learn that at sixteen seventeen. I'm the how many bosses I hear consistently from the same thing. I will hire anybody with a work ethic. This is what we have to work on schools. Now, of course, your question is Larry. How do we pay for it? I got you here that we paid for it. I said, I spent time number in core. I'm a marine when I got the Marine Corps. They gave me a GI Bill. They said, here's x. dollars and while years to use it, we do the same thing. We say, you're sixteen, the state has money waiting for you got twenty thousand dollars waiting for you that you can do whatever you want. You got seven years to use it. Good luck. Why? Because the constitution tells us that we have to pay for I twelve th grade. So it's there if you want to use it. Go ahead. Here's what I promise you. I promise you a bunch of prep schools will pop up guess how much they're gonna cost for two years. Yeah, twenty thousand dollars. All of a sudden not just that we're gonna have trade schools pop up, twenty thousand dollars. That's going to be an pop up all over the state. How do I know that? Because banks are going to give loans 'cause it's guaranteed state money. That's how the game is played. We know it's going to happen. Hold on one second. How what you're saying is great. That sounds good. We spent twenty two thousand dollars per kid per year twenty two k. and his majesty is proper that and we're ranked thirty seventh in the country. He should be ashamed of that, but he, we go do that in my in my curse here limits upgrade, costs us ten thousand dollars per kid to twelve thousand dollars per kid savings. There's about four hundred thousand eleven twelfth graders that's far more than four billion dollars. So what did I just do? I replaced all of the federal money plus more and provided a surplus and allow local school districts to get rid of unnecessary administrators. All of that happened about one x, two extra taxpayer dollar. That is an interesting proposal and definitely and the campaign trail. And as we do these interviews, we're looking for new and interesting ideas. So it's good to hear you come on with with your revamp of education plan. You're listening to Larry Sharpe the libertarian candidate for governor maxim Urfi here. WBAI if you'd like to call in to ask Mr. sharp a question, the phone number is three, four, seven, three, three, five zero eight one eight. It's our first time talking with you, but I try to keep up on, you know, some of your other appearances and hear what the candidates are talking about. A lot of what I hear you talk about and what I see written up about your appearances is is that you seem to have a pretty significant focus on gun control issues, and that is in the direction of reducing restrictions on gun ownership. Can you explain why that's seems to be such a such a focus for you. I don't think it's such a focus. I think it is one focus. Absolutely. I've many focuses and that is absolutely one. The safe act is my focus. The average person does not understand how bad the fact is. The person thinks, say fact makes us safer. It does it with the safe acted was literally made millions of New Yorkers criminals overnight millions of New Yorkers who purchase their firearms legally who purchase them over thinking that they were absolutely doing everything right overnight. They are literally violent felons, but not just that the fact also makes our medical community part of a secret police, which means I'm medical community now has the report on people if anything even comes close being a trouble whatsoever, red flag idea. And literally, this type of thing happened. Some guy comes into emergency room because they were in a car accident. They say how you feeling goes, oh my God, I'm in so much pain. I wanna die. Some body rights suicidal and the next day they. Lease come to that person's house, and they take their property property that was legally purchased. This person is a threat to anybody, the personnel of car accident. That kind of thing happens. But here's the part that bothers me personally, even more this affects veterans more than anybody else. Why? As a percentage veterans will own firearms more than non veterans and veterans also out. I have more PS PTSD than non veterans and their community. They know that if they go and they need some help need some medicine a need. Some therapy helped me out that there's a high chance at all of a sudden they get reported when they get reported veterans are also fire up much higher than the average population in suicide rates, though that is correct. We lose about one hundred and some odd Americans. Everyday suicide. We lose about twenty two veterans and veterans about ten percent of our population. So there about twice as likely to commit suicide? Yes. So when we need them most, the safe fat comes out and make sure that they won't get. Help. They were ready struggling to get help. They already don't. Wanna get help. This makes it just harder, not just that it creates a black market because a black market, why? Now there's a black market amunition in New York state. That's because of the safe that because no one wants to report, not just that the black hog actual firearms in the state. Why? Because no one wants to report. So now that it's actually harder for law enforcement do their job. Law enforcement does not want to enforce the fact is ask them. They don't want to. It's a terrible idea to terrible law. It needs to go away and by twenty twenty. I will make sure that it gets repealed. Let's take a call for Larry Sharpe. Hi, you're onto BB. What's your question I candidate chump? Yeah, just want us a question. Do you believe in worker run democratically run companies, you know, from below. Of course, yes. It looked how someone wants to run their businesses completely up to them. And I think if you wanna have worker run or if you wanna have collapse, of course, you should wind the world to the government involved in that you should run your business the way you want. This even includes what you hear the tip credit, right? You hear the governor trying to to force getting rid of the credit. What a terrible idea. Why in the world would is a government tell someone who's running business, how they should run their business worker owned or not worker run or not. That's not my place. The person should be running that business is that business owner, the people who she starting, how they get paid or the actual workers, what's actually happening as you in the push. This is the smaller businesses are gonna get pushed out in my entire campaign. If you watch, I do. I am constantly spending time in small businesses. And what do you see in the larger businesses or in the franchises on the chain stores? You see kiosks, you see self. Checkout everywhere, kiosk self checkout kiosks self-checkout. What is that? That's defense against this because when this happened in this becomes the norm, if you don't have machines, you can't afford labor and your labor is going to go away. And that means all the small businesses go under and no one is talking about that. If you just look around you see it. Kiosks are replacing humans and you're saying we don't have jobs, and now you wanna create this idea that we're now you can't even get tips. What a horrible idea. We have another idea for us. General. Sorry, Mr. we have another call for you. Hi, you're on WBAI. Go ahead with your question for Larry Sharpe. Hi, I really like your proposal for revamping education and the school system. I was just wondering with that twenty thousand dollar, I guess student version of the GI Bill is would you have anything in place to make sure the prep schools and the trade schools that you're saying we'll pop up would only charge twenty thousand because that's not how it works with college and government loans right now? Yeah, not at all. I would not. They can charge whatever they want, but guess what? If they want to charge a bunch of money then all the all the person's gonna have is twenty thousand. So it's not gonna work. They're going to have to have an option for twenty thousand if they wanna have higher end options. Of course they could if they wanted to do, but they need to have a twenty thousand dollar option as long as they have that option, it's fine if you want to spend more money. And that's what happens now, by the way right now, you find with the current system in New York state, particularly city. You find many kids who do well have tutors. It's very calm to TV. You see commercial on TV for them. People bring their homes, lots of people. Orders. So if a parent wants to spend more money on their child, of course you manage your money, right? So you may go to other other programs at school may have. So the school would have to have the twenty thousand dollar program which should be mandated by the state, but they can have extra programs if they wanted to. And if you wanted to pay more, you could. Of course Mr. shipowning go back to the gun issue for a second, because you mentioned at the top of our interview, just how vast and beautiful and varied the state is, you know, from upstate regions that are quite rural to downstate areas that are quite different from that. And I'm curious in the part of your platform, the talks about reforming carry laws. You say that an individual who legally of teens a firearm should be able to transport leelee anywhere in the state as long as it's locked and unloaded, that seemed to imply that New York City which has much stricter gun laws than the rest of the state, partly because of its very different setting and history that it would be to some degree handcuffed to abide by a statewide standard that would in effect, kind of under. Mine, those local laws that the there, yes, that that is one hundred percent accurate. The fact that New York say, decides that you bring your property into that city and they can put you in jail. Yeah, I'm totally. I'm totally okay. With saying New York City, you may not put someone in jail because they bring their property into your city. Yeah, we're okay with that one hundred percent. Yes. You should know one should go to jail because they bring a legally owned firearm into a county in New York state that is again, two things locked and unloaded. If those things are true, why are you going to their stuffing putting them in jail, it's their property. They're not pulling out and shoot me by their even drawing it to their trunk. Why in the world would you put them in jail? One hundred percent? Yes. Last couple minutes here. I wanted to ask you at least one more issue that's that's the MTA if you're elected governor or even just in the course of this campaign, what can you tell listeners? Obviously a major campaign issue that people want to hear gubernatorial candidates talk about. What what is your proposal about how to get the MTA turned around. I am the only person with a real plan for the MTA there. Every candidate says, no, no, they're plans are fund, invest fund on vest means they're going to tax you more by his majesty fifty, fifty catchy Moore. The Republican says, I don't know what the hell. He says. It doesn't matter. It's useless. He's he doesn't matter. The point here is I have an actual plan that would do two things. Number one. Why? In the world we not using other ways of raising money right now, the budget for the as about sixteen billion dollars. We dropped six billion dollars out of the state because they're so bad what they do and then all we do is give them a money. No, they will get no extra money from me whatsoever. Instead our provide ways for them to make more money and I would I will break up the MTA the way it is now and put it put in charge people who are responsible. The number one, we're gonna use our freight lines. We have lines right now in the MTA that cross about six, ten different counties going along on upstate. There are a bunch of minds aren't being used at all that night. Why aren't they freight lines. These should be freight lines. Bringing freight into New York City freight forwarders will pay us for that. They will help take care of the actual maintenance and on top of that to be less truck traffic inner city at night, less wear and tear on infrastructure. There's an awesome idea. It will raise money and when our cost us any more extra money at all, on top of that, the MTA itself has nine bridges and tunnels. Why in the world are we taking some of those birds and tunnels and leasing naming rights to those bridges? I'm saying, leasing naming rights to the triborough bridge. Why are we call it the JFK bridge while we call on it the the Ed Koch rich. How about we call Verizon bridge or the sprint bridge easily drop fifty million dollars of that bridge easily. They dropped twenty million dollars for a stadium that's using the weekends. This is the bridge that's mentioned hundreds of times every single day during rush hour, hundreds of times you do that plus the sixteen million metro area. They will easily drop money for that. How do I know that I got bankers and had not asked me about it that will actually be done, and here's the best part. Once you do that, we still own it. All they do is least naming rights, which. As we inspect it right now, bridges and tunnels collapsed in New York in New York state all across the state. But now we have this if they don't fix the bridge that we want to we, they lose the contract and it becomes part the actual deal, not just that if they're paying for it no tolls. How about not paying twelve fifteen bucks across a bridge in this in this city anymore. That will raise a bunch of money. The MTO three ways of making money freight using it infrastructure with leasing naming rights for marketing, and on top of that actually spending money as in I swipe my card to get on an MTA train or bus do that. Now they have an opportunity to actually raise money and there'd be no taxation and we'll have actually better MCA. Well, Larry Sharpe libertarian candidate for governor. We're going to have to leave it there. We appreciate you coming on and all the energy and enthusiasm. You brought to the show. We'll see on the campaign trail and maybe chat with the again before election day. Thanks a lot guys. Have a good night. Take care. Thank you. So we're coming toward the end of another edition of maxim, or if you heard from Keith Lawford Republican candidate for. Attorney general from Larry Sharpe libertarian candidate for governor. We've also heard as Ben mentioned earlier, Mark Molinaro Republican running for governor Stephanie miner from the serve America movement, and we have an invitation out to governor Cuomo when we've heard from Howie Hawkins Hawkins as well. So I think Ben, a very energetic, as you said, proposed said proposals, some well-thought-out proposals obviously ways that we might critique them or or differ from them, but but a contrast to anyone we've heard from so far. I mean, this is one of the good things when you have a variety of candidates from variety of parties in a race, you sometimes get some interesting ideas and proposals, and there might be some things in in Larry, sharps agenda that seem a little more farfetched than others. Some that seem more realistic, but this is clearly a candidate who's thought through a bunch of things and has put some ideas on the table, and it's less of some of we getting some. Typical races where either idea sounds similar candidates don't even really wanna talk about ideas. They wanna talk about things they've done in the past or they want to criticize their opponents and put out negative attack ads. We're seeing a lot of that between Cuomo Amal Naro so it's somewhat refreshing. And you know, Larry shops candidacy obviously hasn't taken off the most recent poll that was released. He was at about two percent, but that doesn't mean he's not adding some valuable things to the race. And it be interesting to see certainly the candidates on the same stage for a debate. So the most valuable thing you can add to the race voters to participate. Remember that Friday is your deadline to register between now and our next show. Press your candidates to agree to public debates. 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