Windows 95 turns 25, Early Podcasting and Lawn Gadget Geeks Part 3: Fall Lawn Care HGG457
This is the average guy network. Can you have found geeky showed him before fifty seven recorded on August twenty seventh twenty twenty. Here. At Home Gadget Geeks me, we cover all the favorite venues. On news reviews, product updates, conversation offer the. I'm your host Jim Carlson Broadcasting live from the average Guida studios here super report by. Like, I can't keep water on that can't water. You took the words right out my mouth. We've had a string of just high nineties for a long period of time and no rain I mean it's been gorgeous. If you have a pool and if you hadn't gone back to school, I'm sure kids were loving it because it's at perfect to sit by. The pool whether and but I was gonNA say the same exact thing I. if there's in areas of my yard of there's no shade, it's browned up because I cannot keep enough water on my lawn right now. Now, I do know a guy who does have a pool and is in the right spot Dave McCabe was today Dave, how is the pool? Hi Guys tell me I'm having some trouble tonight. So everybody just. I'll get it. Figured out. We'll. My Pool is actually really good and. It has been. It's been crazy if you haven't had trouble this this summer with your lawn, then you are miracle worker. Pretty tough and I've had a rough one. I mean I can. I can give you guys a a low down whenever you're ready. But. We'll talk about it. You know for someone who is so into this stuff have had such hard year. I just can't. I can't keep enough water early in the spring and maybe even early summer. I felt like a champion I was getting out every other day measuring all the stuff we talked about in the spring show like I was applying it. It was working great. The lawn was green in the Front are my front frontline which zoysia grass just In it's usually pretty drought tolerant does pretty well, it's Kinda design for the hot weather I've been watering and water and water, which has been so hot it no moisture that it's it's having trouble keeping up. So we'll talk more about that coast. Of course, we'll have some great show notes that will post out if the average Guy Dot TV, you can go to the guy that TV slash H G g four, five, seven for the show and get an access to all the show notes don't forget you can download the mobile APP Home Gadget Geeks, Dot Com android iphone available therefore you for free just down those the best way listen. On the road or whatever whenever you need to stream it it's an easy way to get just have it on your phone is a backup just have it there even if you don't use it, it doesn't cost me anything. But what does Kospi something we appreciate our patriots subscribers who help us pay for that each and every year home gadget GEEKS DOT com big. Thanks to Ryan and Bob from think computers dot org they ha they hung out with us last week we kinda got old school on on built in. We talked about cooling in particular, which is the subject we've never mike we never really drilled down on it and it It was good for me to kind of catch up on cooling. And with with liquid cooling, I think really just being an option now the days when I looked at, it was kind of awful. It's a lot easier. I think you can just do it right? You've you've gotTa Liquid Cooler, right? Yeah. The I make it. So simple right now have to do your own custom loop just doing a Oh I agree. So, big thanks to Ryan Bob who joined us from computers next week next week or last week next week all ham show. So Mike is going to Mike, stunned some new ham radio stuff over the last couple of weeks organic dive into what he's doing. He admitted to me he was doing some site offering today and it wasn't going well first time joining outsider not a good idea to oh, man, it was. Just take some time I think to practice. I was doing on just some wires I had never soldered in my entire life have a soldering gun which I founded the harder the to be accurate with than iron But yeah, I'll talk about that next week my adventures with a soldering gun and getting that definitely earned you've done some you've done some soldering your day. Right. I'm formally trained at the School of top gun from the US Navy to work to solder on F. fourteens. Now, if anyone has an fourteen, you just bring it to me I'll. Act Together. Very practical skill. Oh good old good. Old Navy days. Have you done much? Have you done much tottering. Post Navy. I have a big huge bag. Now I used to, Jim, I used to I used to work under a microscope right I would put stuff together and fix boards and I would sit at my desk and we're I. Remember we're out in the Persian, Gulf Desert Storm and someone. Burned a hole through aboard and you like. To, fly we need to fix this board. You know today McCabe. So you relay the poxy over you relay the solder runs you drop the islets, drop the circuits in. And you're like, you hand over this masterpiece of a circuit board you're like, this is two days of my entire life. Take care of it and then. Thirty minutes later, you'll get another work order. It's the same board with a big hole burnt right there and you're like, aw That's the military. Yeah. Have you done post? Have you done? Did you have to do any work like that posts navy anything on computers that way have you sought or anything not big jobs I I still love to do it. I love to like pull things off in fix things and make my own. You know do bread board you know kind of projects and repairs but nothing like I to I used to have this huge station with vacuum solder and. You know it was awesome Yeah Yeah Was this nowhere near that level. This is putting together ham radio antennas and and soldering. P. Two. Thousand Nine connectors to cables and stuff. It's a little bit different than You know the cat shot you know than fourteen take very different at home. There's just one vote you know bigger the blob better the job so just solder it up man to Sada. I but yeah, I keep hearing about cold solder joints that I it's GonNa take some time. It's GonNa take some googling just re. Just flux it. Jabs. Find Can. Pull it off. At work. All right. For new skills for those who are. Maybe. Your new Home Yogi. You've just joined us in the last couple of course Dave longtime podcast or that I had the opportunity my very first podcast with Dave back on home service show Dave August twenty fourth, which was just a couple of days ago. One, thousand, nine, hundred, five was the windows ninety, five, launch it and twenty, five, twenty, five years ago and not that we were podcasting then. But no, let me tell you a significant story for that because I went to best buy that that very day for the launch because I was going to buy it and I did buy it and they were having specials and I bought. What? Little did I know would change my entire life on that one day was called a Diamond Rio And it was an MP three player that probably held to songs and I use that Diamond Rio for years and years and years and years, and then would podcasting came around I was trying every software package I could find to get. podcasts onto that player. So I can listen while I mode and and did things, and now eventually bought bigger and better things. But that was my first MP3 player was the windows ninety five launch and it was like this special. You bought you bought the windows ninety five and they gave me Diamond Rio. Why but they did Well it in good they. They did that really I mean those days from then until early two thousand, you know there was that was kind of the early era of it. I. Remember Maybe Two thousand, one buddy mind bringing in I river. And saying, I, get like thirty five songs on MP three I remember in ninety seven, a buddy of mine saying. I'm Rippin I'm Rippin MP threes at my house. I worked at a computer store in ninety seven in a guy saying I'm ripping MP threes. It's GonNa take all day but they'll be there when I? You know and it it was like he was ripping them. You know they're and and those were some significant times we we. We don't even think twice now in fact, we think about enhanced audio in some of those kinds of thing lost less. In that but that those were the days, right Getting started I was four years old windows ninety five came out. Well IT'S A. But Dave I i. kind of think about that April I think it was April Day about twelve years ago when you said Yes to allowing me to be on home service show and I, you had Chris and John and me all in the same night and no, I don't think we broadcast live in days I think it was just reporting. Yeah and and. Show around show forty or something like that too and twelve years ago I. Think now that eleven twelve years ago coming up. December third is the tenth anniversary of Home Gadget Geeks, which started his home tack and Sophie. Celebrating we'll have a big show that December third of he kind of fun but I always, I, always Hark back to the day I contacted you and said, hey, if you're ever. You ever interested in having a you know having a guest I'd love to be on the show. You were my crazy fan. emailed me and said Dave. I've listened to every single show on a cross country trip with my family. And I just really emailed you back and said, can I have address of your wife because I want to apologize tutor? Do you aren't in Chris and Sadler. One of these guys has got to be good enough to podcast with me. I was like I love all three of these guys. We're just GONNA have this big fund podcast all four of us will do it. We had the best time days. Option from back then could you said you'd used to just record and then obviously move going live when I started my podcast, and now this was a lot later after podcasts were already relatively big I've always assumed that people only started doing live podcasts because of Leo LaPorte and the twit network and what they were doing over there, and the fact that they were live streaming. 'cause when I got into, I used to listen to podcasts because I found it through I tunes and then I realized that they broadcast live doing video I mean were they really the first kind of pioneers of a a big podcast doing live streaming I've always assumed that but I? I don't know my podcast history of were there people doing live streaming before twit? That's a good question. He a yeah. That's a good question who pay. Were my inspiration to do things live. I loved that format that that was so cool that a chat room you know they were able to interact with them. So that is that was for if I'm going to a podcast I'm just going to do it live. But obviously, like I said I joined after live was already thing for podcasters who started. Recording and then they switched over at some point or silicon valley startups like cranky. GEEKS. That was John Wick is earlier. Yeah. Other guy the podfather I can't even think of his. And Curry Yeah. So I probably say maybe he did but you know honestly what changed our lives was google. When hangouts came a thing it's true. We all you know Jim and I were on the forefront when hangouts. Had their their live invitation for youtubers. I got an invite and I remember Jim was mad at me because he didn't get one and I was like, let's just try it tonight. We'll go live. And because everybody was asking us to right. Yeah when which work before that right I mean you had to get. More all different ways I, mean it was it was difficult due before hang-ups I remember doing a few of them before that and like with Skype, it's US call recorder and and good luck live. Yeah we did live audio on you stream before the video we did that. For almost a year I think you stream and then we did livestream dot com. I just do not be was big back then. But. But well, then then Google came along I remember that day I called Dave. We talked and it launched on Wednesday. The video we were on yeah we were on Wednesday. I was like I was figuring it out at work and I'm like we could do this and so we that Wednesday night I, think because we record Wednesday nights in those days and which is why I think is on, Thursday? Because we did home service showing Wednesday and and I remember having that and just thinking man, we did not move away from hangouts forever I mean I. Took it down to the nearly down to the end of it the end of life with it. We used at a ton. It really changed for us. It really changed a lot of the way we interacted with our audience and I think of. The folks out there. You know like like Jim Shoemaker who come to the meet ups be a part of those groups. Tony Rayner Kevin schoonover. The those those folks who would be a part of all those times in just kinda part of our community and it continues on today they listened to reset I'm sure you still hear Dave I'm sure you still hear from some of those folks right on resettle. Yes I have a podcast. Almost, forgot. Yeah, they have a podcast and I honestly have taken the summer off I. I didn't tell anybody I just got. Off It's okay. We're GONNA. We're GONNA dive in Some more cure but it sure is great I think about you know the ten years coming up for Gadget Geeks I. Think about the twelve years that I've been hanging out twelve thirteen years have been hanging out with you Dave windows ninety, five anniversary, and it's just great i. mean those are some very fond memories for me and In a very important, you know twenty years of my life that has been all around tech. So thanks for thanks for sharing that with me. Shit WELL WE WANNA. Talk Lines I'm going to get a comment in Youtube from somebody says that took you tony five minutes. I just got I just Dave I just got one of those like two weeks ago. So again you. Took you five minutes to get to the point. Big Big. Literary Back slappers so great. Exactly we We were in part three of three part series that we're kinda doing online care. We spent some time in the spring talking about kind of what to do to get ready day we had scheduled for the summer. You couldn't make it a little a little bit of an emergency, and so we we filled in for you talked about summer the goal today I think kind of the important part is think about fall because there's a lot of things you can set up. Now, you'll have such a easier time in the spring and so I think fall is the key. A lot of people think it's spring. Fall is really really really key. But before you get to fall I, think I have a suggestion and I wanna run it by run by the master here and see if it's a decent idea. So this is more of a recovery from a really hard summer. We talked about it earlier that you know if you've survived this summer, your magician. So my lawn is we'd free crabgrass, read the grass where it's not. Brown it's healthy lushest gorgeous right. But if if there's areas my law that don't have shade right now, they're just third tournament crown. So my idea I have done this, you have an idea is so when the sprinkler guy came out to adjust my sprinklers I, think he was looking for even spread across the entire yard. Right here is your we're making sure everywhere is getting covered. Right now, I think is a good time to go out and take pictures of all the brown spots in your yard 'cause. Then you know those places need more water and places because I have areas that are super green right I of the areas that are growing up really tall and some areas where there aren't growing a lot and those areas don't eat as much. So I don't think I need even spread of water. I need more concentrated water in certain areas swim wondering if I take pictures. Now this is so hard to do in the spring because you don't know really the areas of your lawn, they're going to really need that water that don't get enough shade. So I'm wondering you know to kind of pre to kind of plan for this going out taking pictures, and then is it smart to adjust sprinklers to maybe not do quite even spread but more targeted these areas I know need more water or will just screw me up and then next summer will have the opposite spots being Brown. In what I would say don't over think this I think I am overthinking. Kiln. Brow ordering just fine. It just means that that grass under the shade is not just it's not letting off the water that that grass over there in the in the pure son is and So if you don't have weeds and your grass is dormant, you are in fantastic shape. You're going to have a great fall plan and we are going to see to it on this very show that you have a successful spring going into the fall. Okay. We talked me off the ledge. So so there's there's hope it's not all bad if your lawns look in a little brown right now, not terrible good to know. Okay. So now I'm ready then for the fall stuff because I who I need some motivation here. Are In in what I would say is it's it's always a good time to go out and see if you're sprinklers are operating correctly you know if you don't have A. Sprinkler. I stand in the middle of my yard getting sprinkled all the time just checking zones making sure things are running fine. and. Just, like you said. It's a good way to. It's more for when you have green grass and you're having a heat stretch you can look inside that green grass for little patches of dryness and you can see it. It's all over my yard. There are certain spots that don't get water and I go out with a clipboard and I circled him and it's been the same two years in a row, and I'm just I can look standing in my yard and think man if this head was over. Three feet. I would be good to go. So it's a good thing to. Do that now if your lawn dormant your lines doormat, it's not because you weren't watering. It's it's just it was hot and it was humid and the grass checks out but you still have to water you the crown of the grass, which is right near the ground is still alive that needs to be healthy that still needs to be watered so. We always say don't don't stop watering in the summer keep watering but if your grass goes dormant just embrace, it's fine. It will come back and it was it was a very difficult summer I? Mean it was very difficult now I brought you guys something since you're talking sprinklers, we're just GONNA go for it right now, and this is a sprinkler head. Filter. So. If you pop off your sprinkler head, it just made me even a small nozzle not Well every sprinkler head has it in it drops down in just like just like so and you can see mine right here Beeri dirty caked up with sediment. So that's something you can do is just go head to head and twist off the top. Youtube it. If you have hunter nozzles or you have rainbird nozzles or there's a couple other brands. House brands for Lowe's and home depot just Google and you'll find out take the heads off and you can check these little filters and you can buy these. You can buy these at the store Dave I think sprinkler heads or something that people don't think like growing up. You know we had a irrigation system I league RUB California we negation system my dad never used it and and it certainly wasn't on schedule like it was yet go and turn it on right and he he just didn't he just did. And in those days you kind of put your sprinklers and kind of set it and forget it. They really just came on now I think I watch these guys on Youtube and speakers get pre sophisticated like I mean you got different patterns you can different. You can put different heads in there like you're talking about trade, you can have a filter so it may. Good. I think a guy like Tony Rayner who just got his kind of your Gatien system up and running it had been broken I. Think it's worth. Kinda dig in figure out. Okay. What kind of heads do I have? What do they do? What are my options? What are what are the parts for him and especially going into the fall when he talked about maybe areas going Dorm I don't think it's a bad idea debut said, this is well take a few where things didn't go really well on your way, right? Right and fall is a good time to start thinking about your plan for the spring like, okay. What am I gonNa do what can I do? Now? What kind of things can change could I move ahead? Could I change some things? Around could I put a different head in there? You might have a half hour, a a one eighty and you need a more concentrator you need to shoot it farther or some of those kinds of thanks. So getting to know those parts day I think is is really key. Know what you have. No, it's available to you right I. didn't even know there was a filter. To say that I had no idea. Sprinkler heads had filters in them I've never taken apart. Yeah. Some of the biggest things is like on a rain bird retainer. Head there's also a nozzle and it has a flow rate and it's a different color code for flow rate. It could be a two gallon or a three gallon or four gallon sometimes even a one gallon flow. And that will change how much water is getting on your yard. You know per hour so you really should know that and. You know just like we talked in the Spring and by the way you guys did a fantastic job on the summer show. Spring in here in the fall, the two things that were going to do right is we're gonNA WATER AND WE'RE GONNA mow it doesn't stop. So we're still GONNA have to do those things right and one of the things that Mike we're going to start with you right now is you need to do you need to go out and and be a weatherman. We're going to be a weatherman right now we're GONNA. Look at thirty days into the future. And we're going to see when those temperatures start to drop because when those temperatures do start to drop, your grass is going to be like, Hey, it's time to go and you WanNa you WanNa make sure that grass has. Has Been. Watered and has a decent shot of fertilizer when it wakes up and it's GonNa it's GonNa go gangbusters again we went. So we WANNA make sure that we get a drink and we feed it. and. It will take off when you when you're temperatures start dropping. Oh, when you said they're gonNA. And it's time to go quiet for the winter. No, they're going to pick back up again you're going to have any tire fall gorgeous lawn one more time before winter conflict you guys are cool. Season were almost the same. What do you call this latitude? Blunted I don't know if I did really well, not class. Here's your. Here's your weather. Yeah. we're looking for low humidity as well but. Seventies and these nighttime temperatures look at your nine temperatures, guys. Yeah fifties which are great for the cool season grasses right? That's GonNa trigger those Dave let me just say to before we before we dig into this I think it's important if you're coming to this podcast and you're thinking like, okay, I, want I ignored the spring and the summer one because I'm not in the lawns but. Now, I want a better line next year. I, think the first step is to know what kind of lawn do you have right? Is it a? We say cool season or like I have I, I have voice out front, which is Bermuda type grass. It's kind of designed for really hot weather. It goes dormant in the winter back is fescue in Kentucky Blue Grass, which are cool season grasses, right They act very different actually have to treat them very, very different full sign out front shade in the back. It works perfect for my kind of my environment here show my show both lawns here and we'll bit but okay so. Folks don't you think it's good to kind of like you talked about in the spring show of getting maybe like let's let's figure out what you've got. Going on my Godson sprinklers. What's gets me excited? I love my sprinklers, headbutts, derailed us. Let's not forget that there's a couple of requirements for this show and I really think you should go back and listen to the spring show and that will that will explain a lot of things. But member I'm not a pro I just Kinda do this because I got shafted by some pros and I like to do it myself. A couple of things we WANNA know is we want to know what zone were in an Jim. You're jets crazy. You've got a warm season grass in the front and a cool season grass in the back would drive me at all. It's great for me would kill me but it's fine. It works in in you can do it the make sure you know what zone you're and just search on Google. Zone hardiness zone, and you will figure that figure it out. Next you need to know what grass type you have and. I got an APP for us the other day and I haven't been able to make it work. And because I know you always ask me what are some Some APPS that you can apply to this in it's called Cano Cano Peo c a n OPEC. Oh, you're supposed to be able to take a picture pointed at your lawn it's supposed to tell you what graph type you have. C. A. N. P. E. O. someone needs to figure it out and Let me know if it works it out one more time. Dave tap your. Thing for me. Okay. Let's. Get along is that better? Yeah there you. Okay. So Kano. Kano Peo-? Can Appeal it weird. His name. Yeah it is a weird name. So C. A. N. O. P. E. OH. This is great because we were just talking oh man video again. I. I got distracted. There goes video keep going to. Okay. So. We WanNa know what zone wherein we want to know what grass type we have, and for the fall something huge is we need to know. WHEN TO EXPECT OUR FIRST FROST Because our first frost is going to tell less win. We're going to basically slow down and stop almost. We will work back from that first frost. So generally about forty to forty, five days of work time prior to our first frost, we need to know that in the fall as well in that will set us up for gangbusters spring one more time. We were we were talking about the weather. So let's let's I interrupted you in the middle of that is we were thinking about Dave you're. You're Kinda. Give us. This is our. This is Omaha. Bellevue. I'm not that far from Mike were we have been in a heat wave. Or come, and it looks like we're coming out of it and we're seeing some nightly tenths of seventy five some morning temps of fifty, which for cool season is dynamite. Why is that? I mean. So Mike Mike is admitted. He's got some damage he's going into the fall. He hasn't really paid attention because he's been on vacation every other deflated. I'm just so so dave some seeing this knowing what's coming up in our our first frost hard to protect Nebraska, really hard to predict. We'll say maybe late October, probably as what is when will experience those but What would you say? So I put did I cut a you I put a youtube link in the chat for a video and it is a video about the average first frost per zone in the. The the forty nine states. It. Just let you know when your average first frost is going to be and you can take that average and you can look up. Averages. For Your area, you know in in past years and you can you can work from that as well. and. The other thing that I like to do is I'd like to know what my soil temperature is and I would be. Really, interested to see what your soil temperature is. So if you have. just a thermometer that you stick in a pork chop to make sure it's one hundred, sixty, five degrees. Sneak it out when your wife's not home and goes grab it in the lawn. It will tell you that you guys are probably. If you're having those cool of nights you you're probably around seventy, two, seventy, three, seventy, four degrees right now and I did mine last week and I was about seventy four. So I'm thinking, maybe you're a little lower because we've had in some nineties and a lot of humidity so we might be a little warmer than you. The reason you want to know that as well is because when the soil temperature gets down to seventy degrees, those dormant weed seeds in the soil decide to wake up. So Mike, if you don't have weeds now you're going to in about two weeks. Because those weeds are gonNA wake up. So I was talking with Jim earlier with you guys earlier is fall gives us two pathways. And if you had a rough summer perhaps like me. I. One part of my yard looks great. The other part I had a little bit of a dollar spot fungus problem. So when you have a fungus problem grass days. So if you have a like a turf type tall fescue or any type of fescue lawn, that grass will not regenerate itself that dead spot is there forever. Forever. Unless you have something like a Bluegrass or a Kentucky Bluegrass will heal itself and grow into those new areas you literally have to put seed and that's why when you go to Lowe's and Home Depot, they have that jug called the patch master or something and you sprinkle it in it has seeds and it has insulation and you sprinkle it on the dirt. Scratch the dirt. He sprinkle it on the dirt, and then you water it in, and then in ten days, you get little baby grasses and your patches fixed. Will we have to decide? If we're going to fix our yard with overseeing or if we want to just keep attacking weeds are like Jim like your backyard sounds like it's done. Great. It's had a good time is about time to party again so probably, we're going to do the pre emergent route. And we'RE GONNA THROW DOWN AT SEVENTY DEGREES WE'RE GONNA throw down a pre pre emergent Di di. Appear Appro Dia mean. We can throw down either one of those. Generally. You would use the one that you didn't use in the spring. So if you threw down priming in the spring, the switchover to adopt therapy right now and put that down at seventy degrees and what that does is it puts a barrier on your grass. That when the crabgrass comes up, it was still grow. It just hits the top of the soil layer and that that barrier in it will die it will kill it. So it's like throw in like this. We'd preventing blanket inside our soil and I think it's amazing. I didn't quite understand that and I used to try to oversee and put down pre emergent, and of course, your defeating the purpose, right? I mean it's it's also going to block certain anything you're just throwing money away. That's the thing with lawn care you. It's really hard to hurt your lawn these days. It's just how can we do it efficiently and so these two pads will tell us what we WANNA. Do a lot of people Jim, they will. Throw down priming they'll spend a hundred dollars and put down the pre emergent and then they'll go rent an aerator and start poking holes in the lawn and what you've done is just like a little blanket they you've put out over something you want to keep warm you poke holes in your blanket so it makes it ineffective. So we really have to plan now I gave you guys a task on the spring show is to create a spiral. And track everything. So my hope is that you tracked your your water usage, your rain, your Mos-, your fertilizers when you put down your weeds. If you walk around in your law lawn, what weeds are you seeing? And are are you identifying the weeds I believe that we talked? Did we not talk about an APP last time called picture this If we didn't there's There's an APP called. This. I don't think we once again you take your phone and you take a picture of the weed and it will tell you what it is. So you can defeat it so. More Tech for you that way. But that then spiral that book is so. because. It it will humble you and you can say you know my book is honestly Jim. It's full of I. Did this too late I did this too late this late you're right. I. My region has high humidity. You guys have humidity Oh yeah yeah. We have high humidity in central. Indiana is a fungus wonderland. So we have a lot of dollar spot. We have a lot of rust in all these Yucky and I totally missed my window. So instead of doing. A preventative fungicide I had to do you know Double Rate as curative rate which it worked everything works it just it's double it costs more and I'm kicking myself. And sometimes it's just we were on vacation and you come back and it's like, why are these yellow rings in my yard in wise all my stuff dying I, set my sprinklers to go you know. So sometimes things happen just life happens but you have to take notes and write it in your spiral even when you screw up. We talked about this the more APP plus or the more plus APP from John Deere And you can put anymore you don't have to have John Deere Mower. Is Kinda cool because you can put it you can start it. Yeah. You got. Older there you but I do have a lawn folder and which is which is. Right what you should what you should do, but it'll track your moss and it'll track the GPS on your Mos-. Long I mean if you like that kind of stuff, it's pretty great. Also tell you how much it's rained in your area since your last Oh. Okay. No In into your point I, I took a little vacation this summer and I came back in my WanNa, super thick and I. Thought I just mowed it and I check the APP, it had been nine days and I was like okay no wonder. Well I'M NOT GONNA WANNA Mo- that I'm not going to clip but those clippings back on the lawn there's too many of them. It's too hot. It'll put too much stress on the lawn. So you put your bag on and you bag those you don't like to do that I. Have a actually have a flower garden up at the top of my property where those trees will each out in Leach back into the lawn. So don't worry about it too much but it is one of those things where it just helps with the data right and I. Think with the spiral or whether you keep track of it in one note or whatever. Right it's kind of thing that Mike did you get spiral started dried anything down the street us one note yeah. I started to one note and I did that and I put in there a win win seekers. I'm still using the chemical company that we talked about last time because it's darn good deal and I can tell it works because my flowerbeds have weeds and a lot of weeds like we are just fucking. So many those far beds nothing in the. Grass. So it's been working. So I've been tracking when they've been coming, I've been trying to put in because they leave us a sheet when they leave and says, here's what we did. Here's all the stuff. Here's some they give you like some tips of like water at all. You know this much the next few days keep your dog off this one because this one needs to set in for a day before you let people walk on it stuff like that and So I've been keeping track of that the biggest one for me when I sharpen. My Blade last because I keep forgetting. Okay. Was that did I do it in the spring throughout the summer when oil changes for my mower I like to stay on top of that do a Lotta oil changes on their probably more than, I need to play like to do it. All sorts of you really got me on a kick and I started tracking everything I even took it beyond the whole beyond The lawn I'm tracking furnace filter changes everything around the house is now in one note and I love it it's it's nice. It's. Of I'm in the middle of lows and I was like, okay I need to twenty twenty, five by fours in any one sixteen by twenty four. Yeah. Thank God it's in there 'cause no matter how many times you buy filters you'll always forget the size second guess yourself when you get there. Ways. ellings Harper I I love doing that and so. Jim Coming back to your your problem. You come back from vacation in a lot of folks will do this. They have this gorgeous lawn, but it's nine inches long and laying over it's gorgeous and then. They'll know it. And then the next day they're like God. Why is my lawn? Looks like dog? It's yellow well. Most. Folks will stress the crap out of it my mowing it because we still need to observe the one third mowing height. So if you have a high lawn, it's no big deal, but you may have to hit it twice. So you're going to have to raise to your highest level. You may even have to move wheels, move your mowing deck if you have if you have a writer. And cut off that top just a little bit just cut the little bit off and then go a different direction. And do it again Yup. You're mowing twice but your lawns going to be happier because you haven't stressed it so much by you know mowing most people will motoo thirds of it off and leave it laying there and it's just you see all those clamps. It's like, wow I, don't know why I do this. I should bag all these clippings book. If you if you it right, you wouldn't have Clinton's. Laying all over the that's the key day. Right I mean if you're mulching and you're starting to see mulch come out like, okay it's time to bag and that's really hard I think for some of us because you're like, no I wanNA, leave it on the lawn. Well, okay. Even when you bag, you're still gonNA leave some your clippings on the lines. So don't totally freaked out about that. The bag doesn't get one hundred percent but then Find a way to incorporate those clippings back into your yard. If you can like him into something, put them in a bed somewhere. You know it just depends on what you what you do. I. I. Like I said, I have a little bit and you know this sounds weird. But I'd like a little bit of a leech field that sits at the top of the yard in stuff. Goes up there, and then as it as it rains as just if things begin to breakdown, it can work its way down into the grass. It goes through the landscaping and worked his way into the grass men. The grass that's up by that area is green all the time like it loves the microorganisms and everything that's up there. You've got to decide Kinda how to get that done. and and so it just depends on the yard that you have. But if you're leaving clippings, throw the Bagger on their until you're not like and if you're leaving clippings often you're probably not moan enough right Or you're a double center like me. And you don't know enough and you bag every time no matter what I have never not bagged my lawn. And so. Two long and then I ended up because especially with have the Ryder and don't have the mulching kit so shoots out the side and then I ended up with piles. Places. Inter and I'm probably really stress in my lawn out. Okay. We'll just just that's that's in your spiral right now. All Things I've learned you need a mulching kit. To come into I need to go to confession or something. It's it's it's. Yard But you are throwing away free nitrogen because you're clipping off that grass that has nutrients in it in your throwing it away. Yup. Instead of returning it back. In in your your grass needs at people are so scared of Thatch. It's just like this keyword people are so scared of as they bag and baggage bag in bag. So don't be scared of it. That's been me. I was kind of raised on the whole like, Oh, I've never had a detached because I. don't I bag every single time and it works really well and and I guess I've been I haven't been bitten by it hard enough to learn my lesson I thing is that but And it's been one weeks I bag last night right? You could bag it's okay to bag right I mean you can do it us you're gonNA. End Up feeding your one more to the same like you're it's a tradeoff right and all these things are trade offs I mean you can water last year just. During. Times of stress your lawns not GonNa look as good. Right. So they're all they're just kind of trade offs in the system Dave speaking of watering as we think about going into the fall. What. In in things locked up here. So I don't know if you can still hear me but if you can. David. Watery was like the Internet is giving us. Maybe it's Jim because I see Mike Moving. Here. Yeah. No it is. So. Good. I think gyms can't hear US anywhere. Are we a re back? We we've been able to hear you. Okay. Good. So Yeah I was definitely me some weird things going on aside but Davis we think about moving into the fall in in in know. Okay. So summers older, I made some mistakes I wrote them down maybe I didn't. We need to do that next year. How can we start over in the fall I mean? Can can we kind of make up for some sins of the summer in the spring? I hate to tell it to I hate to break this to you guys and everybody listening but twenty twenty. One there's one good gooding the lawn season for twenty twenty is pretty much. Everything we're going to do now is for next year, but fall is one of the most funnest times for the lawn guy because you get to make all kinds of decisions, you get the throw all kinds of stuff down on the lawn and your lawn will forgive you for all of your summer transgressions against it Mike Yeah no ghetto but. A little bit too in the fall but maybe not if it's been completely dead, well, if you had if if you. Didn't water it all and you have huge fissures in your in your dirt. Grass, your crowns probably have died, but grass is very, very forgiving. If if it got just a little rain and a little water, it just went dormant it will bounce back but we're going to try to time it in the calendar that I, saw from you guys. I'm thinking do some work this weekend trimmed up edge it do all the stuff you need to do, and let's start hit with water. And let's wake it back up and more water than we have been doing. If. It sounds like yours is dormant. So we probably haven't done I would make sure I did on a water leak. You WanNa. Make sure that you're doing deep infrequent watery. So I wouldn't do three days a week, but I would do maybe a couple of deep water. Week when that grass wakes back up, we want that water to be in the soil, right? Not on the top. You know because if you if you just run your your heads for ten minutes and then shot them down all that water is on the top it's it's never going to seek seep down into the soil. So we want to do deep infrequent watering. To wake our soil back up and that's probably two or three times a week. Okay. Good to nil and Dave could we plan that? Okay I'm I'm going to bring that page back job just. This is our area right but you know we're we're going to see at least now September seventh we start a run of seventies and so we're not GONNA lose a lot of the the we're not gonNA lose a lot of the water during the day by put that water in on the line by water at deep it's going to go in and can sit in them this one today why when I water areas it's so hot by the afternoon that soils already dry like it goes fast right? But. But it is it safe to say starting on our schedule here you know we see seventies here starting Monday the seventh that may be a good time for Mike to Change watering schedule to go maybe Monday Thursday and run those twice as long or maybe three times as long as he had before to really let that water settle in right Yeah and we talked about this in the spring is we really need to know how much water your sprinkler puts down. You can water at ten minutes zone thirty minutes zone. I. Have No idea you really have to do. The tuning can challenge eight. So it's probably too low. No matter what but Iran three. Around eight around a and around eight runs three times. In the morning that's not bad. Okay. Yeah you're you're doing. A soak. So you're letting that water not sit on top and run off, but it's eight minutes. It's soaks in another eight minutes I noticed it was all just running off if you just let it run for. Four minutes altogether. So it's Eight, eight eight. Aggregate so let's do that and the biggest thing you can do my take one of those Little Hand Shovels and go jab it into your ground pick up a plugger grass and get down six inches. What does it look like Cincinnati six inches down. And you can do that once a week and just figure out what your yard looks like during the week that I've been watering and like my effective enough am I getting watered down low and. The thing we want to do this right we wanna do that deep infrequent watering because this grass is about the wake up and it's good. It's about to start consuming all that nitrogen net. You know the guy put out for you and it wants to grow and we wanna tell its roots to grow down to the water not up to the water in it will. It'll be healthier when it comes to to the frost. It'll mean much healthier when it gets to that. But yeah, it's time for you guys we we have to decide if we're going to do. A PRE emergent weeding or we're going to do. An overseeing run overseeing. And even even a pre emergent run most of the Times in the fall we do dethatch, we do an air rate, and then we do are overseeing prep or we go down the path of the pre emergent and we need to know what our soil temperature is in order to start this process guys, I've been I opened my one note. Probably ten times a day and I, go over my fall plan it just. I constantly go over and over and over it and things change things have changed for me so much in just in the last month that I have to plans the backyard I'm doing an oversee he'd my front yard I find I decided I'm not going to see I'm not GonNa Patch I'm just gonNA go pre emergent. And I've got issues out there that I need to attack but. Something you have to make a decision what am I gonNA? Do you know this year I have? Like Twenty, one, twenty, two, thousand square feet of lawn. So I have a lot to take care of. And you you have to make these decisions early because when that soil temperature gets to seventy degrees. You you need to have your pre emergent down folks. Don't understand that the weeds will reactivate in the winter and they will grow up now granted. These weeds most folks just let grow. and. The winter, we'll take care of them. That's usually what folks do but the anal types like myself I want that beautiful fall lawn I don't want any crabgrass heads in it. If you do get crabgrass that pops up in the winter, it will cede the seeds, go back down into the into the soil and you have to deal with those in the spring. It's just a never ending cycles we we like to. Take care of it when we see it right or or sport happens so David that much lawn are you making the same decision for the entire lawn or are you saying you know this part of the law I'm doing I'm going down this road and the other part I'm going on the road I thought I had a plan this year and then We had a trampoline we sold the trampoline well, now I, have a huge round spot that's dead, and then my neighbor decides to put in a patio. So he's got equipment going over the grass and he used part of my lawn. So now there's some dead spots there. So I'm like you know what I'm going to oversee that my front yard I have. I have a yellow nuts said the killing me and I'm I'm trying to attack that I have. Creeping Bent. Live near golf course the golf course mowers go back and forth all day long they drop bent grass and it gets into your yard and it starts growing like weeds. It's great for putting Greens. Looks Awful in your lawn. So I attack that as well and I decided. Those little patches of grass are just gonNA stay there. I'm just going to deal with it because we also have. An Internet provider a fiber provider going to start digging fiber lines in everyone's front yards and I'm like. Anything I do they're going to tear up so. Sometimes, you just have to accept what? The factors around you give you and just do the best you can. and. I'M GONNA go in my front yard I'm going to go the pre emergent round. It's your Pitcher, Mike? Again Dave. So, we're GONNA do the pre emergent in the front yard. So I've been watching temperatures. So. Dave I think what you're saying and I oh, by the way I, really appreciate this I think sometimes we think. We have to apply one size fits all that every spot on her yard. In other words you know Hey, I'm GONNA put all I'm going to go by system under put it on the whole yard I actually have three different yards I have. This is the front yard, which is one hundred percent full sun southern facing even leans into the south. So it just gets blistered ZOYSIA grows great under those conditions right? All summer carpet grass you could sleep on it. It's awesome like it isn't credible does pretty well with water even in this kind of heat is still struggling, but it'll come back. The back blue grass. Kentucky bluegrass grows great partial shade. Then I've got some real shade stop and actually go to I go to specialty grass store and I get a specialty kind of grass that they make just for the shave in I plant that in that area this year and it's GonNa take me a couple years to fix that area I've also had moles which have just been testing on the grass right onto of I got the late Jim I was fighting them on Oh, we'll have to have a whole. Love to have a whole show at some point but So I have to treat those three areas of very, very separately right and I and I actually put down I do different things a little bit different than you the Scots Program all of it but I treat them all a little bit differently and Mike I think that's the key for you to learn those areas of your yard right and be like, Hey, I'm GonNa do this here in that there today's point writing down and knowing it because you're not gonna remember in spring like you're what was I thinking like what was that like you know and I think you're on to take some pictures and drop those into one note like Remind yourself of what those things I'm kind of look like Dave you had mentioned the I wanNA show this really quick I. Think one of the best tools I've ever come across forgetting soil samples is one of these little weasel leader whatever they come by they have a whole bunch of different names but basically, they're great for Dandelions you put them in you twist them, pull him out of polls, the weed out one of the great things such a great. Leader for one of the things that's good as getting soil samples. So we talked about like how deep is the water going Mike? This would be a good thing for you. How deep is the water going right now you have no idea. You don't know how deep it's going. This will get you down about four inches go down, spin it, pull it, look at the core, and then you can tell like Oh. Okay. That's how that's how deep the water's going. I've also used these for seating. So if I have some areas that it just needs spot seed in other words, I just want to get some seed in there to get some grass grown to kind of fill that area with go in there half drop it, spin it, pull it out throat I just carry some seed with me throat in their. Push the dirt over the top of it, and I'm good to go and that seed will then grow and today's like grass seed and we'd seed aren't any different at seventy degrees they germinate. So as soon as we hit that if I have more seeds in my lawn, that are not we'd. The the grass will overcome the weeds because there's more of them. So I just try to keep seed in my lawn all the time to to make sure when the conditions are right it just starts. It's go time. Yeah and And Mike has a unique situation because he has a lawn care chemical company. There are things that he can control and control very well on that is his watering in his mowing and spot treating I would say you probably. Treat put I gave you a link in in the private chat and also put that link. Yeah I haven't pulled up here might order some of that for especially for the beds. This is a This is A. It's a it's a way to deliver round up basically Via A foaming application very directly and I like to use this because I will get something that grows like two inches from a Bush that I wanNA keep. But if up touches it, it will die. So you use this little foaming applicator and when the we'd has a little V., it'll grow up as a little V. and you just place a little bit of that foam right there in in the plant and it will die it will die seven to ten days and you can take this and I get. I don't know what you guys call I call him stinging nettles. It's those weeds that have the little prickly. If you touch them, they will burn your hand and get those grown in my flowerbeds all the time I can throw out. Ten. Pounds of Pren- P., R. E. in which is a pre emergent for Mulch and and garden areas. I can throw out tons of that but I'll still get stinging nettles and all you gotta do is just put a little drop on all of those. If you get vines growing up into your rose bushes again, you just maybe even cut the vine and drop. A drop, the foam, right it's just a way to deliver. A weedkiller very effectively it it works really well, and so you can control spotting you can control. Your water and your mowing and the cool thing is is I would get to know my chemical guys. Hey, what are we doing this year? I don't think I need to oversee. Do you Do we want to aerate? Are we gonNA throw down on our pre emergent? Would you think about Sounds like you don't have a thatch issue. So we may not need to to do that. Air Rating is always good for a lawn and what I like to tell folks around here. Is. Check your next door up your facebook marketplace APP. And another thing you can do is. If. You don't if you're not a member of Angie's list. Create an Angie's list account. Go on the website and search for. The service that you need done. Like aeration, just search for it. Because what we're doing is we're telling Angie what we need and their marketing engine will start churning and when somebody comes out and inevitably all these lawn companies want to aerate your lawn and you'll find someone who will send out one of those Angie's list coupons fifty dollars per Yar pre-ordered. Up to ten thousand square feet or something. So you'll get a deal. You don't have to go to Home Depot. In Rent Aerator for one hundred and twenty dollars for four hours, the things are so heavy. You have to get a neighbor to help you to make it cost effective right and their their work. I mean I think it's fun but you literally have to chase that thing because it's so fast and it's a Lotta work you gotta turn it. The turning is killer in your your hit a sprinkler head so Just do that try the Angie's list hack search for it and see if you get a coupon but otherwise us next door and facebook marketplace, you can find people that will do aeration for you and then. And then. What I like to do is my fault plan I'll give you some links later for your fault plan, but you need to make your fall plan you need to write it down in your spiral and it is You know it's water water water momo. But when we start to execute our plan, we need to mow once and then we we need to Moshe Order. and. Then we need to more grass almost to. The point where it says don't mommy anymore get short as you possibly can and then aerate the crap. Out of your just poke holes everywhere, it's the funniest thing ever to do with all those little mud plugs all over your yard. You met your kids. It's fun. And Then you can throw in a fertilizer or you can. You can throw on your pre emergent whatever whichever route you decide to take. If you're gonNA oversee, then you throw your seat down you would throw down some pete or or some of the straw in a whatever you WanNa do to cover it but that's the best way to overseas is just start poking holes in. Then go to your brown spots, get up all the dead grass and puts them seed down put some topsoil down and Ten days for. fescue you'll have you'll have baby grass for Ri- Ten days. Kentucky Bluegrass probably twenty. One Twenty eight days of Germination and you keep you keep the soil wet and you'll have great grass growing in it. That's prior to the frost right. Right. So we talked about that frost we need to do we need to know. What Third Week of October, first frost with those baby grasses. If the baby is just come up, they get a first frost they're going to die. But we want to Mo- our baby grasses two times before I Ross. If that baby grows up you know it and it goes up again and you mow it again. Golden When he gets a first frost it's just grass by that time. It's just like whatever you know we'll go dormant we'll see in this brain. Mike you'RE GONNA ask a question. Yeah I was GONNA recommend under. Yeah. Well that and then for aeration to if you have a Lawn Care Company for Chemicals oftentimes, they do have really discounted areas I. think like my locker coming like forty bucks, they'll come out and duration if you use them for all the chemicals all year, you get your lawn done for forty dollars they're either undercharging you or something crazy going on up there in Omaha well, I'm probably paying for it in all the other I'm paying sixty bucks and application like eight. It's time to your. Fifty. I paid a couple of years ago I paid thirty to have my yard done. Yeah. It's not too expensive. It's not. It's not that David also that was without lawn care. So that's a good. Maybe there are even cheaper options out to the I think I. Think Forty or fifty is going to be or you're GonNa Pay Mike Yeah to be honest I. Think it's worth it. If you and aerated Dave's point you don't want to go rent the thing unless you got a neighborhood that where everybody can chip and even that's kind of a pain I've never even done. Since, I've lived here in four years and hasn't been terrible. Narrow. Grab a screwdriver, describe a big fat screwdriver and go out and if it if you stick it in the ground I, mean you got to a couple of different places which if you stick it in the ground, it just slides in. You could probably get away I mean I think it's a good idea to do it. But if you're soils loose, you don't have to do it. Okay. Just going. Into the soil. That's all. It's not about water. It's not about it's about. How ensure you're just you're just loosening the soil getting oxygen down into it, and if you do the overseeing route, it's just a very good mechanism in in which to get seed into the dirt for seed to soil contact. Yeah. So if it's if it's a good shape, your for soils loose if you're not allowed batch. You're probably I mean Aaron also covers a thatched that it's a detaching and it. It starts breaking down that thatch and that will start naturally star breaking it down because you've broken holes in the. In the layer right and so. It's a good idea mike to do it. It's always dear you can run behind. You can also if you've got one of those landscaping rakes, one of those. Not, terribly expensive sixty, seventy, five bucks whatever you can go out and throw that seed and then rake your lawn or drag something over it I'm Dave I had a question for you. Okay. So you saw the you saw the weather coming up I've kept my lawn at three inches pretty consistent whole summer. Keep it long. Healthy you said okay. Start shortening it like. Win For me seeing. Knowing when the frost is coming and seeing when if I was going to start shortening that up. Do I start shortening on the next cut or. Yeah. Yeah I have no idea. Kentucky bluegrass however wants to be mode low, but you have to train it. We really do, and that's one of the cool things I love about winter is because I can get a little lower and it it just has this little matted look to it and it's really good. Now, you can't come out outta summer and just off two inch. Right, you really have to train it so. But. If I voted the same mode at the regular length because we saw a couple of days yes. Can start coming down if I, every week if I lowered it one notch. To, little little little bit and maybe. If you need to check what it looks like after you mow it right. If if you're still growing out dormancy, it's GonNa look yellow. But after a couple of fall MOS- and you've hit it with nitrogen. That's you WANNA. Make sure there's a lot of nitrogen sorts going to grow grow grow, right? Yeah, and then you can start getting it. I'm GONNA lay down some fertilizer next weekend. So I can begin to kind of start get that in there, get it in the soil, and then start reducing that in I could with the the cool season grass I could go into the winter with a short, right I absolutely winner. Okay you want short. Yeah. So it you don't want it lay over and getting snow mold in any we don't want to hurt it with fungus or anything that's a mistake I made in the passive just left my mower high into the fall. And I the two long. exp-expect. There's always gonNA go dormant like mid October or maybe even November, and then I can it. There's nothing you can do wrong after that. It's just as Brown. Either literally nothing you can do wrong. It just stays. In fact here in Nebraska we have some people who painted her. Right, I I. It's just a wonderful grass loves the cool weather. So when it gets seventy degrees and the temperature daytime highs drop into the eighties and below, it's just gonNA, take off. So hit it with nitrogen. And don't do any slow release. We talked in the spring about this Moore night, which is a slow release natural fertilizer. You WanNa. Get a no Jim Euro big-box. Guy. So you're GONNA be fine just make sure it doesn't say you know slow we'd least because that makes people happy that they're not gonNA burn your yard. Now we WANNA hit it with nitrogen. We want to water it in and we want that grass to start growing. and. You can also do. If you're going to seed you WANNA get a starter fertilizer because it will have the the N. PK numbers that you need for establishing new routes but a starter fertilizers always good in the fall anyway because you're gonNa tell your grass. Hey, we're giving you all these brand new nutrients to establish deeper roots to be healthier through the winter so. I, tell folks just. Go anywhere and get a fertilizer go to Walmart if staple sells it, go buy it because what they're trying to do is they're they're clearing it out. You can get fertilizer at Walmart for cheap. And you don't have to go to the big box store and fall into the trap of a winter riser. I'm doing air quotes because everybody. Old School thinks that we need throw down some winter riser to winner is this lawn will we're not winterized in anything? We're just giving it nitrogen for it to store. In late. October maybe for you guys. November. You can even have the. Process Start. And, you can throw on, you can throw down. Some nitrogen and some cheap big box store nitrogen and let it sit there and it will use that in the spring and boy will it use it in the spring so that I number is nitrogen is that right in the three in the three number? Yes so like so I, put down their fall turf. Builder. Early to write a very first numbers thorough burston nitrogen. Grass is going to go crazy. Yeah, and I'm going to want to cut it short. In that, I'm going to want to get shorter Gigi you. Cut It high. In, look at your grass makes your blade your sharp. Look at the top of the grass if you're still growing out dormancy. If they're still yellow shoots coming up your grasp and have a yellow or brownish tint. It'll be Greenish Brownish Tint you want that. We need to wait for that spring look that full carpet of green. And then we can start. Okay we'll golf course this thing just start cutting it short realistically Mike You and I or arch our grass is under enormous amounts of stress. So. Anything right now. Get some nitrogen in the grass some kind of treatment you've got somebody doing that for you right? and. Then as we were going to get some rain over the next couple of weeks, it looks like it's GonNa cool down. We're GONNA get some rain in both you and I should start then soon as at grass looks really good long. Cut It twice and start bringing it down each week. Right until. We get lower. I've never done that step day to be honest I haven't either. My cab though so we have to be careful. You want to make sure that it's growing like gangbusters in. This is a step you don't have to do Y- guys you. Want people listening to this thing I gotta get. Milan, cut down I gotta get this thing short. You don't have to just mow the top third and is mo like normal, and then when dormancy starts right before your first frost if you think it's time, it's time to put this thing this sleep just more twice. Well it'd be nice to have it short before the lease come so that it's it's down and then when I'm when I'm mowing or pulling up leaves I'm not also trying to mow the lawn at the same time. from that perspective. So the Super Bowl. Yes and there's a there's a couple of resources that I'd like to share with your listeners because. I'm not the end. All be all in I have jumped around like crazy and I want folks if if they want to overseas I, want them to be successful. There are two guys that. They're youtubers and they have their own companies. They have their own youtube channels that they share this stuff all the time. The first one is a guy that who who knows how to tear lawn down in rebuild it. His name is Ryan Nor K. N. O. R.. Search him on the Youtube 's, and he has an overseas eating strategy and he will go over it step by step by step. Now. Of The Times he is. These youtubers they're kind of crazy. So you have to watch out for them. They will actually burn down the entire lawn with glyphosate with roundup. And scrape off the dead. and Re Topsoil and throw down a single CULTIVAR meaning one type of Grass Kentucky Bluegrass or perennial. Rye. And grow at brand new in the fall in their nuts. I mean they're absolutely nuts if I did that to my lawn, my wife would kill me she's You're killing the grass. I'm like, yeah but it had clumping fescue in. Care? With bring. To. You have to be careful you can't do that but they were show you had overseas the other guy. Lives in Florida but he used to work in. Indiana kind of Northern Indiana Chicago area up over by dare at the the Lawn Care Nut Alan Hain, this guy worked for Scott's true green for a decade. He knows what he's talking about when he talks cool season grass, the guy lives in Florida but he covers cool season grass the most. And if you just get on his email list, he'll send you a free guides. Here's how to oversee just go. And it'll give you step by step by step by step. It just watched him last night. Dave. MAZING yeah you guys the knowledge these guys. And the more you watch the more that'll seep in your brain because I can rattle off chemical names you're like. You know what's that? We'd we'll that splurge. Well, what do you need for that? Will you need some Quinn Chloride Daryl provider to kill that one? So you know it just it soaks in, you'll figure it out and It's fun to watch these guys I. Don't like Autism. Oh, I skipped over there they try to get all cutesy and Oprah on the MOWER. Tell me what to put down right now night. So these guys have taught me a lot in fact I'm. Tonight Jim. I was late because I was putting down what I call the double dark and I've gotten into I told you in the spring that I I like throwing down granollers I like pushing this broader. But I've got into the backpack. Liquid. Game Right, and there is a couple of products you can buy online and the the are going to peddle their wares on their online stuff because they all sell it. Right? But the really good. So you can buy this. It's called a double dark and in a lot of iron in it, and your grass is GonNa love iron and it has seek help and humic acid, all these things and I've I've done this a few times before and I you spray this on your on your grass and your grass. It's not like a fertilizer, a mild fertilizer but all that iron. Will make your grass turned like this bluish green. and. If you have a neighbor where you have a line like their grass in your grass and there's a long line, you can get the bluest green as grass and the line and. The neighbor's grass looks awful. They call it the domination line. In I really don't I really don't get off on making the neighbor cry but I have a golf course. Right next to me and my yard is deep luscious green and there's Limi- green it's real bright. And you can just tell there's a domination line so I take it personal against the course guy, it's good. It keeps you keeps you motivated right I. Mean that's the of compete against somebody for that stuff and glad to do it tonight Jim because we're getting a rain event, you know that Hurricane Laura is coming up. So we're GONNA get some rain events. So I was like if I don't do it right now and I can't do it in the heat of the day. It's too hot. You can't apply things during the heat of the day a literally had to wait till seven pm and I mixed up. Three four gallon backpacks full of chemicals and I did. My entire front yard, which is nine, thousand, two, thousand, one, thousand. So twelve thousand square feet. You know sometimes you just gotTa get it done. That's one of those things. I Mike this summer a you didn't but I there were moments where I was like I just gotta get a Mo in Dave back to our spring episode. You're like, sometimes you just need to get the Mo- in so that you don't get behind. You're not cutting a half or two thirds right and so I took that to heart in this summer I did better than I've ever done as far as like it's Wednesday. I don't care what it's like out there and I need to get a Boeing and I'd go out and mow and I run I, run around to get it done fast. I wasn't trying to make it look pretty or put lines down it's trying to get the Mo- done. And in that actually that actually paid big big dividends for me. throughout the summer. So I was really good advice. This year I tried to take different paths so I get into. Get into. No Pun intended a Rut. With my more and I mo Mo the same spot up and down up and down creates literal ruts in your yard, and if you go the other way and you're like, Gosh, what are all these bombs were whether the wheel marks of your writing on more? So, always try to cut opposite and cut angles. Slashes Cross your rectangular lawn. It's really hard on the edges because you you have to mow you know you kind of have to mow the edges on wheelwright. Yeah. Now, I've got wheel ruts around there this this year actually one of the things I did for the wheel ruts as carried a little bit of seed with me and as at sea routes every once in a while I just I took a little you know low oil funnel you also it comes down a long one about this carry with me and I would punch it into the ground and make to dude about six holes, throw a seat in there, and then you just turn it upside down and those. Those the little. I'm a C. Guy you are in. And it. Because I got some I got some spots like as those drive me. Crazy. And then I br then I'd break those. Well timed. There's a couple times a summary time those just write this. We got some rain whatever it was perfect and man those those ruts grew there now fully seated right there. They're written right now even during the heat because it kept the water on them. They've done. They've done pretty well this fall they're gonNA do great. So I'm just I'm pretty pumped about that. Well, let's leave your listeners with that. I have guaranteed patch repair success. And you can do it by going to Lowe's and you can do it so cheap, you don't have to buy the Shaker been. So. I do it with I. Have a I have a cart. That I pull behind my mower and so we're GONNA go to Lowe's and we're GONNA look for its Brown bag in it's called. It's probably a lawn repair topsoil. It's about seven bucks for one of those big bads. It's back dirt y'all but it's it's screened. We'd less topsoil. If you just if you go over and get the two dollar bag a topsoil, you're buying a bag of crabgrass so don't do it. This bag is screened. Okay. So we've got that. We're going to buy some seed. We need to make sure we know what kind of lawn grass we had before we buy our seed most y'all probably VESCO's which is great because that stuff germinates and seven to ten days. We're GONNA fix some patches in there were also at Lowe's we're GONNA buy there's a bag you may have to ask someone about this, but it is a pellet. Paper. So you Yalo's product in it will hold water. So we've got that we throw this in our wheelbarrow or or our cart or whatever we're going to. Patch repair with so. I've gotten this John. Norris. Yellow spot in my front yard where the dog nuked it with. You know twenty four hours of holding. My dog is a freak of nature will hold urine for days. S Kill my grass. In it's literally nuked with all that urea of urine. So you have to get that dead grass out I'm sorry y'all but you're gonNA have to probably touch it. The time you can rake it, but you need to take it out and throw it away. Just throw it over on the grass you could mode later. Take your rake the one with the the pokey times not the the loose ones in scrape you can do it with Jim's whole poker. You can do it with a claw, a garden claw, but you need to break up the soil because we need seed to soil contact. That is the number. One thing for seeding the seed needs to touch the soil or be a quarter inch under the soil, and we're gonNA take care of both of those. So now we've we've we don't want clumps. If you have clumps just step on it, we've got this big patch of pretty yard dirt. Get a handful seed though it in there. Now Goatee that Brown bag of lawn repair soil and just crumpled it and and fill up that that. Patch that you're repairing. It another handful of seed and throw it on there. And then. Step. On it just step on it so. What we usually do we rent the roller and we roll that seed and we make good seed to soil contact. But you can just step on it and squish it down and then get at cellulose product. And sprinkle over it, and then that will hold the moisture and then. Get it wet, and then keep it wet for ten days to see your baby grasses and then even when you see your baby grasses at ten days, you still need to keep it wet. So if you can't. Tell us to folks all the time Dave overseas. Well, if you do not have a successful watering program, you can't overseas right. He's a has to stay moist for ten days if you seed Jim if you grab a Cultivar of Kentucky Bluegrass to fix your backyard. Twenty. One Days Minimum. Yeah. Most of the time twenty, eight days. Twenty eight days until you get a little bit of shoot a baby graph, the stand up. It's it's off, but Kentucky Bluegrass has the bomb. So we do it because we love it. It looks. It does you gotTA. Keep. Yeah so this patch master. You can you can do a whole yard with this and you can do it for probably. Less than twenty bucks. US Than Twenty Bucks Get out there and get it down. Just get that Mike few repairs starting Monday like. At the counter what we can't predict is a late September heat wave like this is. This is the hard part I. Mean it's looking good right now right the ten day is looking good right now we have to be careful that that just means that if you put down now he gets them you get a good watering program you can't lead. If we get a second heat wave, you can't let up you gotTa keep you had to keep it water it may still kill it. That's the that's the starting this early September first. That's what you run into. Now that being said, you could start now and we could have a fabulous fall in. You could like you could be lawn hero. Like. You know because you we may get those perfect conditions. And everything's fixed slide going. Gambling like A little bit your. Bed I'm going to stick with my. Had if you get some heat, you just water. Yeah. You just gotTa make sure you stay. Yeah and you're just going to have to be that dude, you're bath road with a stogie with the lawn with the hose. Clean. You just just hose it down. Literally Jim No. No bathrobe. But I definitely out of my shorts and and No shoes and Something satisfying watering conditions right? There's just. You know it's pretty great. I've actually Dave. Leave. I've got some weird areas in my yard where like it's just to use sprinklers. It's just it's almost a crime because it's so much such a waste of water. and. So during the summer because we're home 'cause, I'm home because the pandemic. Every morning at six thirty, I can go out you know have a little breakfast grab the couple. cocky. Go out on the. All. Hand. Water. And then that area typically struggles because it's in, it's a high concrete area. It's a high temporary ED normally it trouble getting water. I've always struggled to have grass in those areas this summer it's lush and green because it gets every other day attention you know it gets me watering at by hanging. You know drink a cup of coffee and water at every morning not every every other morning or based on the soil temperatures. I've actually been watering at more hotter, and so I'm just trying to keep trying to keep some moisture in the grass just to kind of keep it. You know to kind of keep it alive. So I have turned does watering moments into one to be a little more efficient, but to to kind of be outside. Just to kind of be outside watering lawn and join a cup of coffee or walk my lawn constantly. Yeah. Because I have yellow nuts edge and I like to go out curse said it. But? I. I I'm always walking the lawn I know every little detail I need to do, and I'll never I never get it all done. I I know all this stuff but I at some point you have to decide this is what I'm GonNa do this is what I'm GonNa fix this year it like my yellow nuts edge problem it's a three year battle minimum. Three year battle because that thing just grows and grows and grows in Indiana is just covered in nuts edge. So right? Yeah. And I had some kind of weed for the last five years that I've been working on just every year. And this is my first year. It's not. Just, every you're of going Mike any other any other final questions while we got David before we wrap this thing up, I already have I don't want to ask any questions because that's going to be more. He's on my list need to do I have I have a lot of homework and you just go to. almost are have been doing has been has been helping and I think that the the frequency of the MO is. Probably. Just like honestly the easiest thing but also the hardest thing like stick to write is getting out because first week after week. Even, if I get a few days and then you don't do it in a few days and that it's two weeks, you have a mode and and that's been the biggest struggle for me is staying on the Molin schedule. Dave Dave said something in the spring that freed me up when he said. You just got to get him on like don't if this is your this isn't your premiums Saturday Mo- This isn't the Mo that the neighbors are GonNa be envious of you just gotTa get a moment in the way he said that in the spring I like Oh. Yeah. I guess I can just do a Thursday or am I just a Wednesday as fast as humanly possible. You don't have the edge you don't have to we. Should blow by. If it's too dark and you're running into cars just leave it. Yeah, right no no right on it day that that was a like that freed me up to just this like just get out there like seven, thirty, eight, o'clock Okay I've got thirty minutes to get this Mo in I'm just going to get in. It's the most beautiful thing to get you out of all kinds of evening chores like. Maybe I know there's dishes there on I'd love to help you with those eight is going to rain tomorrow. I do not get this on the lawn right we cut this. Weekend. So Great. It's so great well. Davey continue to influence me long after the home server show day. So thanks for Thanks for jump in and I ever three part series on lawn online maintenance. We'll. We'll probably come back again to this next year because it's just tons of fun to kind of talk about think about maybe I. Maybe we'll do a winner I mean there's not a lot to do in the winter, but maybe we get together this winter sometimes you guys can handle it just everybody find your free time and work back. Most of us from your time from your state line down to probably. Central Indiana, it's go time. You really have to have your plan down. Anything lower than than that Jim though you're getting into transition zone and warm season grasses they got a lot of time. You guys can you got time to figure it out that doesn't mean you shouldn't plan it but find your frosts frost date. And Mike I. Think you're good. Ask Ask your guy if he's going with what pre emergent he's putting down and when is he putting it down? I write that down questions to ask him next time he shows up what pre emergent are you putting down? Got It. It'd be like, have you been listening to a podcast? That's what he's GonNa say one of the things and I know that sounds weird but it's cast. No No, it wasn't me. As we think about winter. Going into, you can't overseas in the winter a lot of people especially here in the northern climates, you can throw that seed right on top of the snow, and as the snow melts, it will pull that see down into the soil and make that soil seed contact and when those perfect conditions hit in the spring that scene real Germany. And so it's a great way of for. Might gambling. There's your gamble right there. You hit the last snow of the year. You know right for us that's going to be March maybe and early. February. And you could just go out with your with the US the hand crank right as God that shish if he has some areas, you particularly went overseas throw that right on top of the snow. It's the weirdest thing ever in a feels like you're just throwing money away but that snow will pull that seed right into the right into the dirt. Things right now jammed just seeing you driving driving down the driveway to work. You got a cup of coffee here. You'll. Slow down, you roll the window down you grabbed from the door. Springing. SPRINKLE and see out of your. Seed Fool Dave I am a seating I, love that one note I added that question right there like own right in a launch one at love having a right here instead of like spirals great to. But well, we we went a little long but we appreciate you guys hanging out. Great thanks for everybody in the chat room doing what they do. If you're listening on the podcast site, all those links Dave mentioned are going to be in the show notes. So had the average Guy Dot TV slash G G four, five, seven in you'll get access to the show notes including those. Youtube links, I love online I also watch Connor Award. I. Think he's the lawn rebel. And he's just a nut like it's made he's great. He he's he'll teaches something but he's very entertaining. Yes. Yeah, he's the best with you're GonNa Watch online guy and you just want to be entertained 'cause he doesn't carry it doesn't do it right? He doesn't care how he does it. He's just he throws stuff together. He is kind of the average guy lawn. Guy I think, right that's how we all do it. will mix these things together. I hope it works always says he's not a how to guide but I love Connor Soak lawn rebel. If you WANNA, look him up on I'll try to remember to throw something Alan Hain, the Lawn Care, net, and Ryan nor. it. They'll answer anything. You know it's super super great in Connor lives in Idaho, and he has like he's in one of the worst lawn environments because his growing seasons three months. And so he's got do when he does stuff and then he gets they get heavy snow up there. So they have to deal with snow mold and some of those kinds of things. So you have to be careful watching those guys especially Ryan because they they do a single cultivar like perennial ryegrass and then they'll Moesha. In their what they call real mowers are E.. E. L.. And They Mo- it like it like three quarters of an inch you know golf green like a green. which is nuts I am I like my outstanding I like to be able to run my hand or it looks good though the the other thing we didn't talk about that they talk about all the time lawn leveling and that's maybe a winner. Maybe it's a winter topic. That's a scary scary thing for me I don't. Have, my riding lawnmower, we talked about the ruts I think I have physical big ruts from my right or These guys do there they use sand? Yeah. Yeah. For that real mowing and they say don't use topsoil use. But. I can't throw sand in my yard I did I. It's really good for the soil. I grasp really good for. Our grass low enough to do. Yeah we do maybe a seed. Oil Sand Mix. Yeah. I can see doing that and I do. Do a soil sand seed mix, and then you get all three and Y. Out there. Just. A couple reminders for we go. We are live every Thursday eight PM Central Nine Eastern. If you're just joining us or you're coming in and you haven't listened to it before join us live love to have come out and be a part of the live show the average guy dot TV slash life. If you want to join us in the discord group, the average guy dot TV slash discord same thing slash facebook if you want to join us on facebook groups if you. 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