About That Fake Asteroid
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It comes with a price that we brought in the midst of it but the reason is because we've had drought-breaking Ryan's and. Now, it's not official yet, but the drought is basically over in this part of the world and we have got crops as far as the Arkansas See why Dan South all the way to the the hunter coast and brought up in the north west of the state around places like Ouaga and Burqa. There is just mega crops The farm suggests brimming with crops it looks fantastic in the canal blooming. So you've got these these sort of green patches with with his yellow squares in the middle of them. They look fantastic. Really Looks Pretty. But the pollen could grief you can look at over the rising and it looks like a fog but it's not. It's that nasty stuff gets India but You Know I. Think Most People Are Pretty happy with the situation at the moment and the dams felling upside Y. Yeah. We're all. We're all good. What about your part of the Wilfred? It's not like that. I traditionally suffer from people as well but so far it's just been yelled sneeze down here in Sydney, but something to look out for Andrew if you have. A lot of pollen in your atmosphere you should check out the sun and so what you need to do is put your thumb up or better. Still something a little bit bigger that blocks out the direct light of the Sun. And you might find some colorings around it. which is called a pollen corona. Because if there's a lot of pollen in atmosphere, the pollen grains are all the same size, and so you get a process called diffraction which splits alight up into his rainbow colors. So you might see these colored rings. With. Reds and Greens in them a which spectacular when I used to live in Coonabarabran. Quite commonly at this time of the year, you could see them well worth a look if you if you try do say them so that you can let me know next time if you find. I'll give that a crack because it is A. Clear Sunny Day today but I can say hey, so there is pollen in the ace how I'll give that a try and if I can get a photo a lump. NAP Today Fred where we're going to look. I was amused last weekend I. Always read the news on a Sunday morning. Just kick back with a cup of coffee and catch up on all the the dross getting put out by those Most savory news outlets, and apparently we were GONNA get hit by an asteroid again. That seems to be one of the Sunday goto stories. Are we going to get hit by an asteroid although this turned into a rather interesting story because it? It probably isn't an asteroid it could be a rocket. Yes. So. We'll look at that. And we've got a bit of audio to play for today, a piece of music as pain put together and it's titled The music of the Milky Way. So we're gonNA hear that today and Something a little bit different in the Question Department because we surprisingly, we are a bit light on the questions didn't get any new audience questions and only. I think one well, one aim mile with three questions on it. So we're GONNA go with that. and. I'd like to say this this fellow works for the Jet Propulsion lab NASA. For Jackson. Dot now where he comes from but he's name's Ashley and he's come up with three rather stunning questions that we got put to. You Fred because Yeah. They're worth answering and it with discussing so why we don't often play favorites but Ashley came to the Party for us this week with with three stunners. So we're GONNA knock. More? In this week's edition of Spice not. Now. Read. fake news fake news. We're going to get hit by not. In fact I think we're going to get hit by it, but we might capture it. That's a possibility. That's certainly the kind of thing that has been raised before with such a events. Now taking place. So this happened Dea. Is that. What was classified as an asteroid has been detected I think by the Pan starrs projects, which is a telescope on Mt Gold. Jala in. MAUI A in the Korean chain highly-accurate has a number of telescopes. He's not quite as high at ten thousand feet as Medicare on the big island differ Whi-, which is fourteen thousand feet. But still has absolutely stunning conditions for observation pretty sure. That's why this was picked up. So an asteroid. In a very similar orbit to the earth around the sun. Gets classified as an asteroid given the name Twenty Twenty S. But. What has now transpired is that to gentleman by the name of Pool? Is the children's CODA. So called US C. H. O. D. He is the director. Of the near Earth Asteroid. Section. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory venire subject studies at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. In southern California Boston fact. So. PULL has. Doctor, showed us. Let's giving me his full name I. Hope I'm pronouncing it right. Actually look to the dynamics of this object and finds that it is in an orbit that may reveal the fact that actually it's not a natural asteroid tool. It is a spent upper stage of a rocket. In fact, has center apostate very commonly used during the nineteen sixties. Rocket which was taking. A craft to the moon, not a spacecraft with a crew onboard, but one of the surveying series of robotic spacecraft in fact, severe to. which was on its way in nineteen, sixty, six but it didn't make it because there was a fault with one of the thrusters. A think when the survey was coming down to the moon and the crash landed on the moon. Savannah. Survey as well known to. People who are interested in our exploration of the Moon Cassava three, which was successful and went the following year nine, hundred, sixty, seven. was actually the one that was landed right beside by Apollo twelve so that the astronauts of Apollo twelve could pull itself bring them back to see what a year and a half of exposure to the lunar climate. A did two things. The series were generally successful, but severity wasn't and its upper rocket body. Would have basically gone into orbit around the Sun and is what? The scientists thinks has now been rediscovered. So. Now. been unexpected because when when it Pasta Moon night basically. So it well, that's they ended. That will never say this thing again and it may and this has not been confirmed yet has it. It's just a theory at this stage, but the numbers are starting to add up but I didn't think it'd come back. It's like the old cat isn't it just keeps turning up turning. These things. Once. Again, we're littering the solar. System. So. Yeah. Okay. So why why do you think is This particular object twelve, eight, a basically. An orbit that is really very nearly circular, very similar to the US in the same plane as the there's no tilt and that is the kind of smoking gun and an actually slow as well. Two thousand, four, hundred kilometers per hour. If my Arithmetic Dunham ahead is correct that as two thirds of a kilometer per second, which is very slow for eight overseeing Jake's. and. What will confirm Andrew is what the effects of solar radiation is on it because this is the center is I mean it's basically it's an empty. A TIN can really. Allow drawn one. Described in in the popular press. An can. Yeah. That'd be Bowie thrilled. They would eight meters long three meters in diameter and that's so. That means that the sun's radiation a could have an effect on could could push it into. An orbit is what we say non by non gravitational forces. In other words, it could be changing 'cause the radiation of the Sullen that would probably be the a clinch. The thinking is that it's going to go into orbit around the earth. But. That orbit will be unstable. It will probably spend four months. Oh, circling the earth. From, about the middle of next month mid November and then we'll be effected back into its own orbit around the Sun. and. You know that might be the less we see of it so. Really interesting piece of detective work on the part of of scientists whose whose deck today job is option looking at these things. Yesterday indeed, and and the fact that it sorta been doing this for fifty was fifty four years. To. SORTA gallivanting around and not. Is it possible that it's been a around Earth before and we'd haven't noticed or is this might be its first comeback? Yeah, I. think that's right. I think there's a possibility it may once have all you know in the past have been in orbit around there but it's now because we've got these really powerful near Earth asteroid searching telescopes that we find these things in your life that when the rec- Ruben telescope comes on stream thing next year. Which is eight point, four meter telescope. which will survive the until I sky every week. We'll find a lot more of this kind of thing. Unfortunately. There's a lot of garbage eh, that we've We've just sort of laughed I think in the modern age we're starting to pay a bit more attention to it and make things more retrievable unsalvageable but. Yeah fifty years of not during that has created all sorts of all sorts of junk do do we know what severe to was supposed to achieve? yeah it was. It was a landa of the idea was very much to make sure first of all. Going to land on the moon and sinking to its surface because of. This dry quicksand effect that some people thought that the moon might exhibit. It was a big worry especially when you're planning to send humans to the Moon but also it had. All the usual radiometer spectrometers a camera aboard a stuff to really sample the lunar environment in as much detail as possible. Now, it is possible that this is not the rocket way talking about diet is starting to look more and more likely I suppose that's the best way to put diced very much the conservative approach to take Andrea, my your your scientific inside there it is probably, but we're not said. It's called journalistic integrity. Not many of his left. Well, you the last person would thought. No No. No. Fair enough. They might be more. But come from. You're listening to face nuts with Andrew Dunkley and Fred Watson. This episode of space not to is brought to you by last pass simplifying your online life. Now, if you're anything like me, you probably find one of your biggest frustrations in life is remembering all your passwords. All that has logging day tiles, username names, passwords, important information of built up over many many years, and you might have hundreds of them I know last time my candidate had like. Passwords for various things and. It can get quite cumbersome. 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So basically, Chandra is not as flagship mission fags ran strongly is with the Hubble one of the great orbiting observatories. And the scientists Chandra what they've done is they've said, well, we've got images of the Milky Way taken by all these mob whistle between telescopes. On they and that gives US A. Very multi wave band view of the Milky Way until what they've done is they've merged images from the Hubble telescope. So that's the visible ultraviolet from the Challenger X Ray Observatory. So that's x ray images of the Milky Way and the space, the space telescope, which is no longer operational but. A did actually observed the milky way in the infrared wideband. So taking these three. Really. Because you've got ultraviolet in there as well from Hubble. Very very different wavebands a made a composite image of the Milky Way and then they. Suddenly. Fight it and the Sunday fixation process says okay. Let's. Look at the picture and at from top to bottom, imagine that you're going from Haya to low notes. So that gives you at a you get a paying in the middle range of the of the musical scale that not somewhere in the middle of the image and he's caused the Ping would because by a point of light, a drone would because by an extended object something which which covers many many pixels in other words a big part of the image. Then, they give it a tone which depends on the instrument which was used to make the the that particular part of the. Of the image in other words the Hubble or the Chandra or the Spitzer. Telescope? If. Given a kind of Tom Bre a characterization of the note until when you put it all together, you get something that I think is extremely beautiful I kind of sonic journey across the length of the Milky Way with remember the high notes from the top of the image, the low notes from the bottom of the image but I played as you scan across the width of the image. And Get a very I. think a very restful sound sort the. It's lovely. It is really lovely and and it's so basically what we're about to hear is actually scientifically produce. This isn't just somebody playing games with with with noise and and just sort of running them across a four hundred light year wide image. This is scientifically produced. So what you're hearing is Designated sounds based on the objects in the image. Is that what is that? What you're? Describing. Perfectly, been an in a way. You know it's a different way of looking at the sky you're not looking listening to it, but you know if if we were equipped only with his and some people are. Then, this is a great way to visualize the splendor of the Milky Way. Well, without further ado, let's have a listen to the music. Of the Milky Way. It's absolutely lovely. Isn't it and to think That compilation based on. The visual overlapping of several observations and and put together in a to create that sand One of the sounds you heard Donna which one it was, but I'm guessing it was one of the big ones was secretaries is star charged with talked about? and And several other objects in particular from. Part of the universe the Milky Wise Iowa. Yeah. That's just beautiful. They've done a really good job of that. Haven't I tried who would have thought a black hole sounded so lovely because in the middle of. I saw the black hole is. Just a postscript to this. Andrew on if. People want to follow up on this the Chandra x Ray Observer tree website. which as Chandra DOT SL DOT EDU. If, you go to that website and hunter around a bit South Schinder that photo album section. You can find the Sunday cashing. You find exactly what we've just been playing, but you can also find the individual tracks that come from each of these different telescopes. So you can find the the the track, the Hubble track. On a spit to track as well, you can listen to the independently. And you can also look at some other objects in the sky they've sunny fide, an image of Cassiopeia A, which is a very bright x ray source in the sky with with the not tickle counterparts, and perhaps most especially, they've only find the pillars of creation remember the images from the Hubble Space Telescope. Those three pillars of creation they've done a solid foundation of that too. So he can. You can look at all of this and yes, it's a great place to look around especially if you like. If you like music and you're musically minded a different way of looking at the sky. This could be really good for the sight impaired Ever getting opportunity to say what's out there. Exotic. Creating images in their mind through music or through through various tones might be might be an option I think it's fabulous. might up that on again towards the end of this episode it's not unlike the way we record podcast Fred this the the Fred Star. Odd and the Andrew Blackhall sand on the other side, and we put it all together. The end attracts independently recorded from different observations. Sound as good as those. Yeah. Definitely not. Listening to Spice Nats we've Andrew Dunkley and Fred Watson. Space Nuts as always I'd like to thank Al Patrons, the people that put a bit of coin into the podcast via Patriae on or super cast or acoss whatever is your preference all the details on our website of course, spicing DOT com. If you'd like to become a patron and if you are a patron keep an eye out. For new material, it should be up very very soon if not already a couple of news segments for Al Pie Trans across as a patron, you do get bonus material. 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Eight. Was Eighty one line is. One what we shook it it it that far. But, yes that's how you get your questions to us on spice nuts now Thank you actually sending in this treasure trove of questions. Hi Andrew Afraid I have more questions for you. This first one is about population three stars in there a theoretical minimum size for population three stars. There is obviously a lower mass limit for youngest is before they are classed as Brown dwarfs. Ten percent the mass of Sun but is this different for stars which would have no medals in their formation. This of course leads to the question. Could they be population three red dwarfs with no middle in their spectra. So. That's his first question. Fred? This is a really fascinating. An insightful question obviously knows he's stuff does actually yeah, indeed. So let's just Saying. Let's just on. This is what they say journalistic circles. You know it's What is the population three star? So this was a classification that goes back to a man called. While I guess he would've been involved about when he was Germany, he moved to America in the Nineteen Thirties became Walter Varda. Very famous astronomer who during the blackout actually at Mount Wasn Observatory when Los Angeles. Was Blackout during the second, world? War He. Observed, the stars of the Milky Way. Classified them into what it called population. So very briefly, population one is stars like the Sun Stars which are. So the rich in now, what we call metals is anything other than hydrogen and helium. So to Strana oxygen is a metal as is calcium as he's Kaban So styles of Hodgson Helium and metals It's a curious thing that you know is involved of over the decades but at what? He said was that population one stars are rich in metals. They've got all the components that we find around some of the earth because that's where they've come from originally from other stars but then this population to I, mean, not that they. Stars principally in the central region of our galaxy. Also in the galaxy's halo the the financial swollen stars. which surround galaxy and they are a much lower in mentality that means that got fewer of these heavier elements like oxygen. And Carbon and all of that. But there's also this postulations of a third population population three, which is the very first as that were created in the universe and because metals heavier elements are created instarem house. If you go back to the first generation of stars, you should find stars with no metals a toll in them. And they haven't actually been found yet. We found population what we might call extreme population to styles styles that have got my nudist trace unusually high that you're looking for. But very little, and you know that they have very very old stars because they've got such small amounts of these contaminants that come from earlier generations of stars but population three still something we have not genuinely scene and population three styles are usually assumed to be very large with masses up to one hundred times the the song because they were formed in the other universe hydrogen was everywhere. They pull in lots and lots of hydrogen as they collapsed gravitationally into a star. And A. Chance of the helium which also comes from the big. Bang by the way, the hydrogen and helium leftovers from the Big Bang. Okay so to the question, is there a lower mass limit and? That's a really interesting question because as I've just said, we, we normally think of things as being highly massive. The the outcome I'm not especially stung population three although I've worked you know to some extent with. Scientists who were looking for extreme population Tucson's we did not in the right when she Looked at some very low messily sixty stars which are extreme population to. But. There certainly have been studies that have looked at exactly this if you've got. A low mass star being formed in the early universe what would happen to it and the usual thinking as the dilemma style wouldn't stay alone my stuff along because as it was growing the so much raw material there it just to suit accumulates more gas and becomes a high mass. So the thinking is that that probably antennae but that was a study which took place in two thousand seventeen. That looked at the possibility. Of there being Aloma star or star, which is going to be a little star it's still. Material if because of gravitational interactions with other objects within the clustering, which is being bombed if those gravitational. Attractions. Ejected it from the birth cluster before it could collect more bass than you might have a population three star, the survives to the present day. They looking at something about point eight of a solar mass. It's not the the Brown Dwarf Star size don't that Ashley was. Referring to which are indeed actually smolder than ten percent I think it's thirteen times. Jupiter is the law for a Brown Dwarf Star. So. They're not at that level. Then much more light, the massive, the sun but point of the mass of the Sun. This was suggesting the star of that mass could survive to the present day. And that means we might find one one that was ejected from his birth cluster before it could get bigger. But it hasn't been found yet. The the normal way of looking for population three stars of course of this is one of the targets of the forthcoming. Array of extremely large optical telescopes that we will have. That to look into to the distant universe. So you're seeing they stars. As they were you know just a few hundred, million years after the birth of the universe that's way you expect to find. Conclusive, evidence of population three thousand. Of course, by looking at the spectrum by looking at the the the Rainbow Spectrum, which contains the signature of any metals that might be that hopefully, this case just hydrogen and helium. Okay. So when he asks about Population Trae. Red. Dwarf. Stars again probably. Probably. Got Small. But. Who knows we might find something like that? It's a great question and a great suggestion population three stars really interesting. Is He? Was He. Can tell from my rather. Long, winded answer the. Well, it's just another thing we think exists in we just haven't found yet. which is a of that going on. Right now, actually second question is about the effect of dark matter just heard everybody grind. Tour about document often We noticed doc mattis effect on the motion of Stars in the Galaxy on the large scale, could we expect to find a similar effect on a smaller scale like the obits of the of planets in our solar system? Would it be feasible idea to put a high accuracy clock on a deep space probe block new horizons to measure the gravitational field in Atta solace systems or our solar system in this guy's yet so you're already measuring the gravitational field just by the trajectory of the spacecraft. that. Tells you what gravity is experiencing? As you watch his movements over time until it's being tracked, very accurately and so the gravitational field is exactly what you'd expect with a few what we've referred to already in this in this podcast, a nonprofit textile perturbations where the radiation of the sun actually pushes things in a slightly different direction from what you'd expect from pure gravity. So that's all sort of taken the council butts. You would not really expect to see any effects of the matter in the solar system because. A on the scale of the solar system. It's very likely that serve distribution of dot is uniform. So it's It's just providing a uniform background within which the planets. Orbiting everything is going on as normal. It's only when you look at large larger scales where the dark matter seems to be concentrated, and in particular on the scandal, the galaxy we know that Mattis concentrated towards the center of the Galaxy. Extend Gina in very cool Halo and the galaxies much much bigger. than the solar system that's when you start seeing the effects of dark matter. And, of course, when you look biggest structures like structures have got a story like clusters of galaxies. Galaxies, you will also see its effects there. So on the scale of the solar system. With small to see the effect dot matter. Okay, I would have thought. and. You probably said this in a different way and much more inside fully that I did but I would have thought the dock matt fix everything when you take into account the entire universe. Yes that's really. Does Bu-. You if you're immersed in a sea of doesn't matter which is not do not changing until then econ detected literally stopped from a gravitational view can detect it. We Hope One day by very subtle particle physics detectors and there's a new one being built. A new one being built here in Australia called a touching a mine. The stole the mind putting dot matter detector in to look for these rare interactions that data me, how with normal matter. That Selah Best Bet for finding I think rather than looking at gravitational changes this most go. All right now let's get to the final question from air interrogated this week Ashley. This one is more of a fun question to do with Mickey Messaging, extra extra terrestrial intelligence. If we take the premise that lots of technologically advanced civilizations existing H. Galaxy, but the set to our in space and time for response, then we can ask the theoretical question of the Aliens Asl's what would you like to know that we can tell you so flipping the question so where the receiver what would you by Andrew and? Fred like the aliens to tell us a quick example of such a thing we transmit a picture of the andromeda galaxy to the andromeda Galaxy notwithstanding the link budget issue as the signal passes through the galaxy in various civilizations detect knowing that we are long gone, decode the signal and say the completely useless but interesting information of what their galaxy looked like two million years ago from the Milky Way flipping that same logic, we detect the signal. From Andromeda and the information it contains is two and a half million years old a picture of Al Galaxy from the. Perspective. So. What's actually actually asking us to answer on this one? He's asking us. What we would like to tell aliens is that each What we will. Tell us how. Okay. You're failing we've been down this road before we've been done similar roads, but it's nice question actually. Introduces an interesting concept, mattie mass messaging extraterrestrial intelligence, which is not something we've done in a big way I. Mean we do it in vertically by all the radio signals that a leaking out into space from the Athens is the Chauve radio signals virtually hundred light years in radio because that's how far these radio signals have gum that probably. So wait now they're indetectable. But we've never. been two occasions when testing new radio telescopes, messages have been beamed into space. In directions that we know contain clusters of stars one. I think was with the our Sabo the show. What was done was kind of crew picture was encoded into the signal was named off. They are however very rare events and hasn't ever been. A sustained campaign to send signals out directed into space. For example, stars that might contain the my have like planets in orbit around them. That has not has not happened. But. That is a project which is part of the breakthrough set of initiatives which we've talked about before the set of initiatives. Funded. By RAMONA A Russian billionaire with a number of quite imminent. Scientists, some of these board which included. when he was alive Stephen Hawking. Breakthrough listening one of them actually using radio telescopes like parks to listen for extraterrestrial signals, none of which have been found yet. But the recently called breakthrough messages parts of the breakthrough initiative, and as it says on their website brain breakthrough message aims to encourage debate about and what to communicate with possible intelligent beings beyond earth he takes the form of an international competition to create messages could be read by an advanced civilization. The message must be in digital format and should be representative of humanity and planet And but they make. That for the moment we have no plan to send these messages. It's really about encouraging global discussion on the ethical and philosophical issues sending messages into space and they pledge not transmit any message until there's been a wide-ranging debater higher levels of science and politics on the risks and rewards if contacted advanced civilizations Stephen, Hawking, you might remember was dead against this kind of thing. Because He. Looked too tasty for the aliens. It's always there's always the risk of MIS interpretation you're such exactly. Send a message of goodwill and humanity and interpret. As something quite tall for declaration. Transplants to did you remember to bring the milk? Yes. Yeah. That's right. and. What I want to know that. I think it's been well portrayed and a bit of a giant but this sort of situation has actually been well portrayed in the hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy Douglas Adams had a lot of fun with this misinterpretation of messages. And write some very funny parts to the story of the HITCHHIKER's guide to the Galaxy in in in his in his entire story or the the islands, the detective 'cause they misinterpreted message and great by dog. I. Still intrigues me. But the best portrayal was the movie arrival which I think you've. So where the whole of the movie was about the issue of how you communicate with. These ARYANS who turned upon L. Doorstep. Very, very interesting ideas not movies quite and the other one that portrayed. It well was contact where we received an alien signal and what that was sending back to us was the opening ceremony of the nodding thirty, six Olympics, and the first image we saw from the islands was a Nazi swastika so. There is your is exactly the Siamese Ju misinterpretation standing miscommunication whatever you WANNA call it We. We should probably indulge Ashley and say, what would we like the islands to tell us I think. I've tried to think about something different I mean the question comes up How did you come into being? Why are you? There? You know what's what's your history? We do you believe in a creator I'd really like the guy down that road with the islands I think it would be interesting to see if they Sort of. Became advanced and intelligent. Beings. And had a biblical belief backing it up as we do on earth in many different forms But yes, that that's something I would wonder about. I would ask I would ask that question. And you could extend the Andrew to you know to sort of ask in what their version if he. was. Because If you ask a scientist on this that same question. Why did we come from? Then we've got a fairly coach story about that but of course it. Has To have a universe there in the first place and. Nobody's very sure about where that came from. So I think that's A great question is a great line of questioning to take. Minded probably be a lot more. Lot Simpler A. Lot more naive coach I can put it that way be something along the lines of. What you'd ask God that you have. Do you have roosters. That's what we'd asked. Gender Rousson. Again. No it would be shea. Exactly. It will be what's it like way? To use them. As a as a probe to as a tool to probe. The details of an environment in space, which is a long way from us. That will be very interesting. It will be like having a Free Telescope A. Telescope could could give you an imagery of of a things on a local level of an extra solar planet. That will be that will be priceless information Your weather records almost that sort of thing. No. We should. Probe very violent in a way that will be very informative to scientists say over. The Truth Ashley is you've probably never stopped thinking of questions to ask I'm trying. Just beside, much more that you'd want to know it would be an issue revolving Communication situation, I imagine. which would, of course, end with? Frayed so long and thanks for all the fish. Except Here. Actually. Thank you, You have been at guest interrogated this weekend some really really interesting topics that you brought to the. To the platform this weekend we we appreciate it. Thank you so much We're going to have to wrap it up or by the way if you do want to ask a question as I mentioned before you can do that on our website, go to the tap to record your question into it. The fashioned way by sending us an email all available on website space nuts podcast dot com. And that's GONNA it up for another week. Fred. It sounds like Andrew. Integrate to discussion and look forward to the next one, which might not be too far away. Probably what? The going to wear so. We'll we'll go out with some beautiful sounds the music of the Milky Way. As created by the Chandra X ray observatory, and the Spitzer space telescope and the Hubble Space, telescope will as images put together to create. a beautiful image but then like put music tour and created this, it is just absolutely lovely. And now, that's how we'll finish this week. Thanks as always deferred thanks to here in the studio and from Andrea. Thanks to your company will look forward to you joining you again on the next episode of spice nuts. To despite not podcast. Available at Apple podcast Google podcasts at spotify radio. Your favorite podcast Playa can also streamed on demand God still Tom this is now the podcast production from dot com.